VOLUNTEER!

Lock & Load!

CORN has major problems when CNN is trying to expose their fraud.

Brian Moller says ACORN has its own quality control, has fired workers in the past, including workers in Gary. Despite its past, the Obama campaign gave $800,000 to ACORN to help fund its primary registration drive, and ACORN has endorsed Barack Obama for president. The Obama campaign reacted this afternoon, saying, it is "committed to protecting the integrity of the voting process and said it has not worked with ACORN during the general election."

They're throwing out 5000 new applications.

Leaders of ACORN in the effected areas should be charged with voter fraud and sent to prison! The leaders are the proverbial fox guarding the hen house.

When things get weird, vote McCain anyways.

-Sharmuta

Just follow the money

re: #3 jorline

Cut off the A...CORN=ACORN...PIMF

/Pigs eat acorns, don't they?

(Go Sarah!)

re: #4 Sharmuta

When things get weird, vote McCain anyways.

-Sharmuta

When the going gets weird...the weird get going!

jorline

re: #6 jorline

Cut off the A...CORN=ACORN...PIMF

ACORN--take out the O and jumble it all around=NARC?

Let me get a harsh truth on record, posted at the end of a prior (and very long) thread:

Our knowledge of Acorn's interference in our electoral process is only partially known at this point, but even so it looks very bad. Election results in many battlegrounds will be close, and with Acorn's interference, very possibly invalid.

Our country is not a Banana Republic, though, and this cannot be tolerated. Fixing it, though, will take time, to uncover and cleanse the system of the fraud and all the fraudulent "voters."

Therefore the elections should be postponed, say, a month or two to allow time for a more complete investigation and de-lousing of the pool of "registered voters."

In addition, a Class Action Lawsuit by We, the People of the United States against Acorn and its supporters and affiliates should be initiated to bankrupt the fuckers.

-Eris

PIE!

/

I didn't see Obambi's pie riff, but my daughter and husband said that he's losing it...

;-)

Stack the ammo high and deep.

re: #10 ErislDysnomia

I understand where you're coming from and sympathize, but ain't no way this election is going to be postponed.

re: #12 Buffalo fats

Stack the ammo high and deep.

praise the lord and pass the ammunition

OK

Great spinoff, Lizards- give it a read.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #10 ErislDysnomia

I like the class action lawsuit idea.

IT'S TRUE!
It was weird to me to see a thread here with only two comments. Sure enough, I reloaded and there were 12!

re: #13 Irene NYC

I understand where you're coming from and sympathize, but ain't no way this election is going to be postponed.

That may or may not be true, but we can start a very large stink that might call better attention to this among those who are sleeping.

Let's start a Web petition to be disseminated amongst all the conservative bloggers.

re: #14 Nevergiveup

praise the lord and pass the ammunition

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

OK

Scratch that- I didn't really watch it

Can someone out there please tell me what happened to the "lefty dude being kidnapped by the terrorist, shunning the little green football" on the LGF logo on top?

I don't read the comments section much, so maybe I missed something.

Which reminds me. I gotta get a gun before the government take it away.

I'm not sure if it got posted elsewhere, but there is a lot of VERY interesting information on the Obama/Rezko relationship at [Link: strata-sphere.com...]

Short form: The records on Obama's real estate deals show that someone else was paying the taxes...and may have owned the property.

I just hope we can get this out in time.

re: #11 littleoldlady

I didn't see Obambi's pie riff, but my daughter and husband said that he's losing it...

I saw it on Fox. He is losing it. It looked to me like he had a teleprompter glitch, and then rambled on for the next few minutes about pie.

re: #20 grybstein

Can someone out there please tell me what happened to the "lefty dude being kidnapped by the terrorist, shunning the little green football" on the LGF logo on top?

I don't read the comments section much, so maybe I missed something.

What?

re: #23 Racer X

It looked to me like he had a teleprompter glitch

Without even seeing it, that was my guess too!

re: #21 FrogMarch

Which reminds me. I gotta get a gun before the government take it away.

Just one?!

I can list about a half dozen "must haves".

I CAN'T GO BACK TO SLEEP.

/anything to help?

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

What?

The top of the page is just a bouncing green football. It used to have a hippy jumping into the arms of a terrorist.

re: #11 littleoldlady

PIE!
/;-)

Well, I heard it, and I couldn't believe it what Obama was saying. It was a typical 1930-40's "step and fetch" routine. I'm surprised that he didn't call his mother "mammy."

re: #27 lazardo

I CAN'T GO BACK TO SLEEP.

/anything to help?

Got any old Al Gore speeches?

When things get weird, reload.

And, always keep your powder dry.

re: #28 Racer X

The top of the page is just a bouncing green football. It used to have a hippy jumping into the arms of a terrorist.

You're right. Are we all really on LGF? Cue the Twilight Zone music.

This pie thing sounds titillating.

re: #29 Walter L. Newton

Well, I heard it, and I couldn't believe it what Obama was saying. It was a typical 1930-40's "step and fetch" routine. I'm surprised that he didn't call his mother "mammy."

His "southern" accent was so pronounced in that speech it was just silly. In PA? What a fool.

re: #27 lazardo

I CAN'T GO BACK TO SLEEP.

/anything to help?

Warm milk with a shot of Scotch?

re: #3 jorline

It is clear that people that are working for ACORN are getting paid big money, just follow the money trail..and previous associations.

In the mean time, there is a new movie(mocumentary from Mexico) coming up in the next few days, called "Fraude Mexico 2006" it's about elections in 2006 and how the leftist (Manuel Lopez Obrador) got the election stolen by Conservative (Felipe Calderon)
[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Lopez Obrador went on record saying that he was the "Messiah" sounds familiar [Link: www.cbn.com...]

It's no surprise to me the debut of the movie is just days away, just like the next "W" with Brolin.

We are being attacked from all fronts my amigos, we have to continue to expose them..

re: #33 MrSnuggles

This pie thing sounds titillating.

Not a boob thread!

re: #15 Sharmuta

Great spinoff, Lizards- give it a read.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Thanks for the link Sharm...excellent.

Polls always release results from a respondent pool, but they do not tell you - although the NCPP says they always should - what proportion of people agreed to answer the poll. If a lot of folks refuse to take part in the poll, that's an important piece of information. If Gallup is getting pushback from people they are trying to contact, they may be interpreting that in a way that may skew their political weighting.

Now one thing I do not buy, is the idea that Obama has 51% support. Not that he could not get that much in the vote, but if that is true it would mean that his support has risen six points in three weeks. What would cause that to happen? It's not going to come from the democrats, he already had their support. It's not that republicans would swing over and support Obama, the numbers tell us that and in any case, the parties are very partisan this year. And the independents have not changed in Obama's favor, in fact he's a point weaker with them than he was September 14. So what's driving the bigger numbers? The only explanation is that more democrats in the poll are being counted, which means that Obama's growth is artificial. In real terms, it means that republicans have become more passive, and the balance reflects a loss of McCain support on both tracks, his own support and Obama's.

re: #35 MandyManners

Heh. I'm dreaming about that before I sleep.

re: #35 MandyManners

Warm milk with a shotS of Scotch?

fixed

re: #35 MandyManners

Warm milk with a shot of Scotch?

I do that alot- err- without the milk.

They need to hammer this. Say things like "after the 2000 election, you'd think that we would have done something to clean up the process. Not just making sure every legal vote is counted, but also making sure that NO ILLEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED." How anyone could get away with being in favor of voter fraud boggles the mind. Voter fraud enabling (no IDs) is part of the Democrat platform, right? Or is it so fundamental a principle to them it doesn't need enumeration in the platform?

re: #34 Racer X

His "southern" accent was so pronounced in that speech it was just silly. In PA? What a fool.

Can you imagine if it was Palin. "Hey folks, you got any brats out there. Doggonit, I love brats. What's your favorite kind of brats. Brats stuffed with cheese? My mom use to make them with grits. Golly, I love them that way. Shucks"

Voter Fraud prevented in Pakistan:

Three killed in U.S. missile attack in Pakistan

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Well it might work here?

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

There has a cartoon jihadi cradling a hippie by the football logo on the header. I don't know when that disappeared.

O.k., bringing over to new thread.

Palin's SATs and High School records are fair game. How about this:

Obama's list of obfuscation

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13.Your Record of baptism -- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records -- 'not available'

I get one of these, we're even.

re: #43 Walter L. Newton

Can you imagine if it was Palin. "Hey folks, you got any brats out there. Doggonit, I love brats. What's your favorite kind of brats. Brats stuffed with cheese? My mom use to make them with grits. Golly, I love them that way. Shucks"

In Philadelphia?! She was here a couple of weeks ago and actually ordered cheesesteaks the right way.

/not the Kerry way...

re: #18 ErislDysnomia

That may or may not be true, but we can start a very large stink that might call better attention to this among those who are sleeping.

Let's start a Web petition to be disseminated amongst all the conservative bloggers.

I agree. I think if we were able to get a few hundred thousand signatures then maybe there would be some attention garnered.

Why don't you check out patriotpetitions.com . Maybe they can work with this.

re: #33 MrSnuggles

This pie thing sounds titillating.

Here's a story about the pie story. Can't find a video clip. Anyone?

re: #45 Killgore Trout

There has a cartoon jihadi cradling a hippie by the football logo on the header. I don't know when that disappeared.

You're right. Are we all really on LGF? Cue the Twilight Zone music.

re: #45 Killgore Trout

There has a cartoon jihadi cradling a hippie by the football logo on the header. I don't know when that disappeared.

The hippie had a moonbat headress on and I think it was by Cox and Forkum

re: #47 littleoldlady

She's in Philly today, dropping the puck for the Flyers' home opener.

re: #39 lazardo

Heh. I'm dreaming about that before I sleep.

I build my dream mansion in my mind when I lie down. My favorite area is the secret section complete with a sleeping chamber where no one can find me.

re: #49 arethusa

Pie We Can Believe In. ROTFL!

/whatever happened to "a chicken in every pot"?

re: #49 arethusa

Here's a story about the pie story. Can't find a video clip. Anyone?

No mention of arugula pie. The vegetarians will be mad

re: #45 Killgore Trout

There has a cartoon jihadi cradling a hippie by the football logo on the header. I don't know when that disappeared.

It's been gone a few weeks now.

re: #47 littleoldlady

In Philadelphia?! She was here a couple of weeks ago and actually ordered cheesesteaks the right way.

/not the Kerry way...

Obama was talking about sweet potato pie in Philly this morning, doing a real "step and fetch" sort of routine. It was racist, my post was parody of what if Palin was speaking to a bunch of rednecks and talking about brats. The media would be all over her. But I bet we never hear about Obama's remarks.

I wasn't suggesting that she talk brats in Philly. The closest thing to brats in Philly is kalbasi (sp?).

I know, I spent a lot of time in Philly.

re: #36 El Lizardo mejicano

It is clear that people that are working for ACORN are getting paid big money, just follow the money trail..and previous associations.

In the mean time, there is a new movie(mocumentary from Mexico) coming up in the next few days, called "Fraude Mexico 2006" it's about elections in 2006 and how the leftist (Manuel Lopez Obrador) got the election stolen by Conservative (Felipe Calderon)
[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Lopez Obrador went on record saying that he was the "Messiah" sounds familiar [Link: www.cbn.com...]

It's no surprise to me the debut of the movie is just days away, just like the next "W" with Brolin.

We are being attacked from all fronts my amigos, we have to continue to expose them..

Welcome, ELm. I agree with your analogy. Five years ago I lived on the Texas/Mexico border. Thirteen years of watching the politics in Mexico and how it affected us has me convinced about the parallels.

I guess this is echo chamber stuff:
Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS learned from the letter shown in full text below.

re: #49 arethusa

Here's a story about the pie story. Can't find a video clip. Anyone?

That's just bizarre. I guess he's trying to prove he's as American as sweet potato pie, lemon meringue pie, and/or coconut cream pie.

re: #52 Celtic Templar

She's in Philly today, dropping the puck for the Flyers' home opener.

Hell to the yeah! Here's hoping she elbows Jaromir Jagr too.

re: #52 Celtic Templar

I.did.not.know.that.

How come she wasn't at the Phillies game yesterday?

re: #48 Mars Needs Neocons

Why don't you check out patriotpetitions.com . Maybe they can work with this.

Could someone simply create the petition? I don't know much about computers.

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

Obama was talking about sweet potato pie in Philly this morning, doing a real "step and fetch" sort of routine. It was racist, my post was parody of what if Palin was speaking to a bunch of rednecks and talking about brats. The media would be all over her. But I bet we never hear about Obama's remarks.

I wasn't suggesting that she talk brats in Philly. The closest thing to brats in Philly is kalbasi (sp?).

I know, I spent a lot of time in Philly.

Italian sausage or kielbasa ;)

re: #62 littleoldlady

I.did.not.know.that.

How come she wasn't at the Phillies game yesterday?

Don't know. Flyers invited her to drop the puck.

re: #55 sattv4u2

Can you imagine the price tag? Arugala is expensive, you know?

re: #60 doppelganglander

Clearly the man likes his pie. And has promised a slice of pie to everyone in America, except the top 5% income earners.

re: #65 Celtic Templar

Don't know. Flyers invited her to drop the puck.

I take it we haven't heard from J Street yet...

So, Big Tony is talkin'..........
Obama can't really throw him under the bus, he's already under the jail.........
Let's see how he lies his way out of this one......

re: #64 Celtic Templar

Italian sausage or kielbasa ;)

The folks I hung with, it was only kielbasa.

re: #54 littleoldlady

Pie We Can Believe In. ROTFL!

/whatever happened to "a chicken in every pot"?

Hippies want pot in every chicken.
/

I think this was mentioned on a previous thread, but here's Huckabee talking about Economic Terrorism.

re: #65 Celtic Templar

Don't know. Flyers invited her to drop the puck.

Free "Puck-er Peach" lipstick will be given out to the hockey moms in attendance.

re: #22 Mike McDaniel

I'm not sure if it got posted elsewhere, but there is a lot of VERY interesting information on the Obama/Rezko relationship at [Link: strata-sphere.com...]

Short form: The records on Obama's real estate deals show that someone else was paying the taxes...and may have owned the property.

I just hope we can get this out in time.

If this has legs then it needs to go out to the RNC, the McCain campaign, Rush, you name it ...

Look - some of you are fighting and working your socks off for McCain already - but some aren't. You might at least use your PC and send e-mails with stuff like this to various people, even local papers, radio stations, TV stations.
The more people send stuff, the less it can be overlooked.

You know it mkes sense!

re: #68 littleoldlady

I take it we haven't heard from J Street yet...

J Street? John Street - it's Nutter now, he was a Clintonista before he went Obamaton.

Uh-oh, the login box is at the bottom again.

re: #10 ErislDysnomia

Therefore the elections should be postponed,

No. That's what they do in banana republics. The election day is set by law. And can you imagine the whining?

re: #63 ErislDysnomia

Could someone simply create the petition? I don't know much about computers.

Many websites allow you to create your own petition.

Sorry, link below belonged with post 69 above......
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Obama's Mathemagics

To kick off our show tonight, Mr. Obama will give 95% of American working families a tax cut, even though 40% of Americans today don't pay income taxes! How can our star enact such mathemagic? How can he "cut" zero? Abracadabra! It's called a "refundable tax credit." It involves the federal government taking money from those who do pay taxes, and writing checks to those who don't. Yes, yes, in the real world this is known as "welfare," but please try not to ruin the show.

re: #49 arethusa

"Can't you just let me eat my pie?"

re: #76 itellu3times

Uh-oh, the login box is at the bottom again.

not mine. my "show e-mail" one is (as always) though

re: #71 Kosh's Shadow

Hippies want pot in every chicken.
/

/I prefer "Pelosi's chicken neck in every pot."

re: #83 arethusa

/I prefer "Pelosi's chicken neck in every pot."

How 'bout no chicken necks, just give me the pot ;)

re: #38 jorline

Thanks for the link Sharm...excellent.

Polls always release results from a respondent pool, but they do not tell you - although the NCPP says they always should - what proportion of people agreed to answer the poll. If a lot of folks refuse to take part in the poll, that's an important piece of information. If Gallup is getting pushback from people they are trying to contact, they may be interpreting that in a way that may skew their political weighting.

Now one thing I do not buy, is the idea that Obama has 51% support. Not that he could not get that much in the vote, but if that is true it would mean that his support has risen six points in three weeks. What would cause that to happen? It's not going to come from the democrats, he already had their support. It's not that republicans would swing over and support Obama, the numbers tell us that and in any case, the parties are very partisan this year. And the independents have not changed in Obama's favor, in fact he's a point weaker with them than he was September 14. So what's driving the bigger numbers? The only explanation is that more democrats in the poll are being counted, which means that Obama's growth is artificial. In real terms, it means that republicans have become more passive, and the balance reflects a loss of McCain support on both tracks, his own support and Obama's.

There ye have it!
Quit wailing and start getting active!
(Those of you who aren't already ...!)

Anyone know if the Flyers game is on national TV?

(I think Palin was in MN or WI yesterday. Thus not rooting for the Phillies in person, but I'm sure she was in spirit.)

Funny. I suddenly really want some pie.

re: #58 jorline

Welcome, ELm. I agree with your analogy. Five years ago I lived on the Texas/Mexico border. Thirteen years of watching the politics in Mexico and how it affected us has me convinced about the parallels.

This is a mirror election to me, we have the populist "messiah" Vs. the Conservative, in 2006 we had our enemy "hugo chavez" trying to help Lopez Obrador, we were so close in having a friend of hugo chavez next to our borders, you guys have no idea how close it was, my own family in Mexico was so afraid of that happening, we were spared.. Thank God!

We CAN NOT let it happen here either.

re: #75 Celtic Templar

No, J Street. "Obama's Jews" (using the term "Jews" loosely). The ones who got Palin dis-invited from the anti-Ahmadinnerjacket event.

I'm in the suburbs but I do know who the mayor of Philadelphia is... ;-)

re: #27 lazardo

I CAN'T GO BACK TO SLEEP.

/anything to help?

Opium is good fer what ails ya!

re: #86 arethusa

Anyone know if the Flyers game is on national TV?

(I think Palin was in MN or WI yesterday. Thus not rooting for the Phillies in person, but I'm sure she was in spirit.)

Funny. I suddenly really want some pie.

Hockey? National TV? Surely you jest.

Is it illegal to piss on a Star?

Tim Robbins gets star of Hollywood Walk of Fame

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

re: #86 arethusa

Anyone know if the Flyers game is on national TV?

(I think Palin was in MN or WI yesterday. Thus not rooting for the Phillies in person, but I'm sure she was in spirit.)

Funny. I suddenly really want some pie.

ummm,,,, it's the NHL ,,,,,,, no national contract until the end of the season and the playoffs! (after football and College BBALL is done

re: #77 joncelli

No. That's what they do in banana republics. The election day is set by law. And can you imagine the whining?

So you'd rather risk an unfair election than delay?

The whining will come from the Bushitler people.

F them.

re: #92 Nevergiveup

Is it illegal to piss on a Star?

Tim Robbins gets star of Hollywood Walk of Fame

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

If the "star" is a Liberal, then....yes, it's illegal.

If the "star" is a Republican, then....it's free speech.

re: #21 FrogMarch

Which reminds me. I gotta get a gun before the government take it away.

You're going to get a gun so the government can take it away? But if you don't get the gun in the first place, the government won't have to come to your house to take it, and you'll save the taxpayers some money. See how this socialism thing works?

re: #92 Nevergiveup

Is it illegal to piss on a Star?

Tim Robbins gets star of Hollywood Walk of Fame

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

When you piss upon a star,...
/paging buzzsawmonkey to finish the rest of this song parody

re: #92 Nevergiveup

Is it illegal to piss on a Star?

Tim Robbins gets star of Hollywood Walk of Fame

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

GREAT idea. We need some California Lizard to walk his dog down Hollywood Blvd !

re: #71 Kosh's Shadow

Hippies want pot in every chicken.
/

Hey, Kosh...too funny.

re: #98 sattv4u2

GREAT idea. We need some California Lizard to walk his dog down Hollywood Blvd !

Shit, I'd put on a doggie costume for that honor! Might need some Coors first.

re: #85 yma o hyd

There ye have it!
Quit wailing and start getting active!
(Those of you who aren't already ...!)

Good point, yma...ding

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When you piss upon a star,...
/paging buzzsawmonkey to finish the rest of this song parody

"Would you like to piss on a star" walking down Hollywood Bvld,"

Next 2 lines please,

This financial meltdown caught our government by surprise. If our own finances come as a surprise, imagine more difficult situations, like Iran's nukes. When these idiots say "Iran is XX months away from a nuclear bomb", I think "how stupid do you think we are"?

To protect America we have to assume Iran is already nuclear or will be literally tomorrow. Common sense.

With the threat of nuclear terrorism, I do not think government can protect us. I think we have to take steps to protect ourselves.

re: #98 sattv4u2

GREAT idea. We need some California Lizard to walk his dog down Hollywood Blvd !

Good grief. We Lizards could not collectively drink enough beer to piss on the stars of all the liberal Hollywood stars.

re: #100 Nevergiveup

Shit, I'd put on a doggie costume for that honor! Might need some Coors first.

to go along with a nice steaming bowl of chili followed by a laxitive

re: #87 El Lizardo mejicano

This is a mirror election to me, we have the populist "messiah" Vs. the Conservative, in 2006 we had our enemy "hugo chavez" trying to help Lopez Obrador, we were so close in having a friend of hugo chavez next to our borders, you guys have no idea how close it was, my own family in Mexico was so afraid of that happening, we were spared.. Thank God!

We CAN NOT let it happen here either.

Agree...thanks

The series of violent riots that erupted on Yom Kippur evening in Akko resumed on Saturday evening for the fourth consecutive day. Residents are reportedly hurling rocks towards homes and businesses.

Hum. I wonder how the Syrians would react to this?

re: #103 MartinLeaf

This financial meltdown caught our government by surprise. If our own finances come as a surprise, imagine more difficult situations, like Iran's nukes. When these idiots say "Iran is XX months away from a nuclear bomb", I think "how stupid do you think we are"?

To protect America we have to assume Iran is already nuclear or will be literally tomorrow. Common sense.

With the threat of nuclear terrorism, I do not think government can protect us. I think we have to take steps to protect ourselves.

See the previous thread. It looks like that Iranian cargo ship was a big dirty bomb to be set off near Israel.
Link

re: #107 Nevergiveup

The series of violent riots that erupted on Yom Kippur evening in Akko resumed on Saturday evening for the fourth consecutive day. Residents are reportedly hurling rocks towards homes and businesses.

Hum. I wonder how the Syrians would react to this?

who is rioting ,, and about what?

THE OBAMA THUGOCRACY!

Notice the HUGO inside the above word.

Here is a link about a woman who was visited by the secret service because she was turned in by an Obama supporter.
Link

Sanity Check:

How come no one brought up a probability.... that the markets are reacting to a possibility that the United States may have a socialist, leftist government (just think the power triumvirate of Obama, Pelosi and Reed) for the first time in history? That would be a major game changer.

All this talk by Barack Hussein Obama regarding the class warfare, taxing the "rich", evil corporations", the distribution of wealth can not instill confidence among the business class and the investors, and they are reacting. With the US market being dominant globally, what you have abroad is a domino effect.

If McCain wins, the markets will bounce back, if Obama wins - we're in for one wild ride. Last time the world went through a similar economic situation, we had Hitler and WWII with a Holocaust.

re: #103 MartinLeaf

This financial meltdown caught our government by surprise. If our own finances come as a surprise, imagine more difficult situations, like Iran's nukes. When these idiots say "Iran is XX months away from a nuclear bomb", I think "how stupid do you think we are"?

To protect America we have to assume Iran is already nuclear or will be literally tomorrow. Common sense.

With the threat of nuclear terrorism, I do not think government can protect us. I think we have to take steps to protect ourselves.

American soldiers should have been sipping tea in downtown Tehran a year ago.

re: #109 sattv4u2

who is rioting ,, and about what?

Police official meets with Akko’s Arab leadership

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #38 jorline

Thanks for the link Sharm...excellent.

Polls always release results from a respondent pool, but they do not tell you - although the NCPP says they always should - what proportion of people agreed to answer the poll. If a lot of folks refuse to take part in the poll, that's an important piece of information. If Gallup is getting pushback from people they are trying to contact, they may be interpreting that in a way that may skew their political weighting.

Now one thing I do not buy, is the idea that Obama has 51% support. Not that he could not get that much in the vote, but if that is true it would mean that his support has risen six points in three weeks. What would cause that to happen? It's not going to come from the democrats, he already had their support. It's not that republicans would swing over and support Obama, the numbers tell us that and in any case, the parties are very partisan this year. And the independents have not changed in Obama's favor, in fact he's a point weaker with them than he was September 14. So what's driving the bigger numbers? The only explanation is that more democrats in the poll are being counted, which means that Obama's growth is artificial. In real terms, it means that republicans have become more passive, and the balance reflects a loss of McCain support on both tracks, his own support and Obama's.

Your bold is exactly what the PUMAs have been saying.

If the sample is skewed, the results are skewed, and I find it highly interesting that gallup is not releasing the internals until a week later. That's really disingenuous, IMO.

re: #90 stymie

Thanks, but I'm an agnostic. (;

re: #111 myx0mop
Think the WSJ did that yesterday.

re: #110 Odinga

THE OBAMA THUGOCRACY!

Notice the HUGO inside the above word.

Here is a link about a woman who was visited by the secret service because she was turned in by an Obama supporter.
Link

Cripes - again, that needs to be checked, and sent to the campaign offcie, the blogs, the radio and TV stations - these things need to get out!

re: #114 Sharmuta

, which means that Obama's growth is artificial

Obama, ,, the VIAGRA candidate.

When things get weird, the demon hunters reload with hollow points filled with blessed silver.

It just feels like 1939. We have to stem the tide!

re: #116 arethusa

I missed that. Unfortunately, the Republicans, much less Conservatives have no representation this year, and the outlook is very gloomy.

re: #110 Odinga

Who are the brain police?

re: #111 myx0mop

Sanity Check:

How come no one brought up a probability.... that the markets are reacting to a possibility that the United States may have a socialist, leftist government (just think the power triumvirate of Obama, Pelosi and Reed) for the first time in history? That would be a major game changer.

People *have* brought up this possibility.

IMO, "Obama fear" is probably a real market effect (including potential capital gains tax increase), but its only one of multiple factors at play here.

In my opinion ACORN is more damaging to OBAMA than Ayers.

ACORN is simpler to understand.

1. Obama worked for ACORN during his community organizer days.
2. Obama sued on the behalf of ACORN.
3. It is common knowledge ACORN = Voter fraud for Obama.
4. ACORN was instrumental in the Sub Prime collapse.
5. Obama campaign donated $800,000 to ACORN.

The CO is ACORN stands for community organizer. And we all know who is the most famous community organizer in the world.

Say it Loud!
ACORN
ACORN
ACORN

re: #110 Odinga

THE OBAMA THUGOCRACY!

Notice the HUGO inside the above word.

Here is a link about a woman who was visited by the secret service because she was turned in by an Obama supporter.
Link

Another article about BHO's THUGOCRACY.

Hat-tip: Some wonderful Lizard this morning.

re: #124 odinga

The CO is ACORN stands for community organizer. And we all know who is the most famous community organizer in the world.

Jesus. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

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re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A mule is an animal with long funny ears
Kicks up at anything he hears
His back is brawny but his brain is weak
He's just plain stupid with a stubborn streak
And by the way, if you hate to go to school
You may grow up to be a mule

/art imitates life... ;-)

re: #122 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Who are the brain police?

What would you do if we let you go home
And the plastic was melted and so is the chrome...
Who Are the Brain Police?

re: #117 yma o hyd

Cripes - again, that needs to be checked, and sent to the campaign offcie, the blogs, the radio and TV stations - these things need to get out!

Wait. It's unforunate that the woman at the Obama office probably called the SS and lied, but there was nothing else that the SS could do then to investigate if a threat was actually made.

I don't see anything wrong with this. And it's common for these folks to be a bit heavy handed when gather info. It's there job. Would you want them doing less?

re: #114 Sharmuta

Your bold is exactly what the PUMAs have been saying.

If the sample is skewed, the results are skewed, and I find it highly interesting that gallup is not releasing the internals until a week later. That's really disingenuous, IMO.

Couldn't agree with you more Sharm. Perhaps it's people like me that are part of the problem...I never participate in polls.

re: #42 spudly

They need to hammer this. Say things like "after the 2000 election, you'd think that we would have done something to clean up the process. Not just making sure every legal vote is counted, but also making sure that NO ILLEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED." How anyone could get away with being in favor of voter fraud boggles the mind. Voter fraud enabling (no IDs) is part of the Democrat platform, right? Or is it so fundamental a principle to them it doesn't need enumeration in the platform?

Democratic platforms tend to have planks that would embarrass civilized people.

For instance, in 1856, the DP firmly supported the Fugitive Slave Act, which allowed Southern slaveowners to retrieve their absconded property from wherever they might be found.... even in the lobby of Independence Hall in Philadelphia, if it should come to that.

It gets better.

"Resolved:

1. That the Federal government is one of limited power, derived solely from the constitution, and the grants of power made therein ought to be strictly construed by all the departments and agents of the government, and that it is inexpedient and dangerous to exercise doubtful constitutional powers.

2. That the constitution does not confer upon the general government the power to commence and carry on a general system of internal improvements.

3. That the constitution does not confer authority upon the Federal government, directly or indirectly, to assume the debts of the several states, contracted for local and internal improvements or other state purposes; nor would such assumption be just or expedient.

4. That justice and sound policy forbid the Federal government to foster one branch of industry to the detriment of another, or to cherish the interests of one portion of our common country; that every citizen and every section of the country has a right to demand and insist upon an equality of rights and privileges, and a complete and ample protection of persons and property from domestic violence and foreign aggression.

5. That it is the duty of every branch of the government to enforce and practice the most rigid economy in conducting our public affairs, and that no more revenue ought to be raised than is required to defray the necessary expenses of the government and gradual but certain extinction of the public debt.

6. That the proceeds of the public lands ought to be sacredly applied to the national objects specified in the constitution, and that we are opposed to any law for the distribution of such proceeds among the states, as alike inexpedient in policy and repugnant to the constitution.

7. That Congress has no power to charter a national bank; that we believe such an institution one of deadly hostility to the best interests of this country, dangerous to our republican institutions and the liberties of the people, and calculated to place the business of the country within the control of a concentrated money power and above the laws and will of the people; . . .

"

Yes, that really is a Democratic Party platform. Seriously. No foolin'.

re: #110 Odinga

THE OBAMA THUGOCRACY!

Notice the HUGO inside the above word.

Here is a link about a woman who was visited by the secret service because she was turned in by an Obama supporter.
Link

That's just the tip of the iceberg. Americans can't imagine losing their right to free speech, but they've been conditioned to it by years of campus speech codes, unconstitutional hate crimes legislation, and subtle or not-so-subtle intimidation by the grievance industry.

Michael Barone at NRO has a nice round-up of Obama's thuggish tactics: The Coming Obama Thugocracy. And that doesn't even include things like contacting the Justice Department to prevent a pro-McCain group from running a completely truthful anti-Obama ad.

re: #118 sattv4u2

, which means that Obama's growth is artificial

Obama, ,, the VIAGRA candidate.

The Viagra candidate...that wouldn't be hard to believe.

re: #103 MartinLeaf

This financial meltdown caught our government by surprise. If our own finances come as a surprise, imagine more difficult situations, like Iran's nukes. When these idiots say "Iran is XX months away from a nuclear bomb", I think "how stupid do you think we are"?

To protect America we have to assume Iran is already nuclear or will be literally tomorrow. Common sense.

With the threat of nuclear terrorism, I do not think government can protect us. I think we have to take steps to protect ourselves.

Looking at the bright side, with crude oil less than $80/bbl, Putin, Chavez and the mullahs suddenly have a lot less leverage....

re: #110 Odinga

THE OBAMA THUGOCRACY!

Notice the HUGO inside the above word.

Here is a link about a woman who was visited by the secret service because she was turned in by an Obama supporter.
Link

however they did want to know how I felt about Obama. That was my limit. I told the Agent in no uncertain terms that my thoughts were not pertinent to their investigation, that this was America and the last time I checked I was allowed to think whatever I wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. In fact, even if I had said what she claimed, that isn't a threat. I told them (again) and my husband verified that the statement reported by Obama's volunteer was a lie. I asked them if there was a tape of the call and they said no. I said, "So on the word of a ticked off Obama supporter you are on my porch with no other evidence and you want to question me about my THOUGHTS!?"

SNIP

They then said they were trying to do me a favor, that they came to me first before “embarrassing you by going to all your neighbors and family”, another threat? I told them to be my guest and talk to whomever they wanted but they weren’t going to investigate my thoughts on my porch.

They also informed me that it would be easier if the next time a supporter calls me I just say "Yeah sure count me in, or just hang up" apparently so she won't get her undies in a bundle and give them more useless trips. Yeah right. I said "Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate and I can't tell them why I don't?" I said I was sorry they made a wasted trip but if they had a problem with some made up lie they needed to go talk to her about it because it wasn't my fault they had to drive from Houston for nothing.

At one point I went inside and got a notepad to record their badge numbers and they refused to show me their badges. They had done the quick flip when they arrived. I asked for a card and the female Agent refused to give me one stating “You’re not going to get a card.” The male Agent gave me a card and told me I could contact Houston with any questions.

SNIP

I think my eyelids are starting to give. G'night!

re: #133 jorline

The Viagra candidate...that wouldn't be hard to believe.

I'd have to be stiff to buy it

re: #129 Walter L. Newton

Wait. It's unforunate that the woman at the Obama office probably called the SS and lied, but there was nothing else that the SS could do then to investigate if a threat was actually made.

I don't see anything wrong with this. And it's common for these folks to be a bit heavy handed when gather info. It's there job. Would you want them doing less?

I understand they had to investigate to determine if there was any truth in the accusation. What I find particularly disturbing is the way they treated the woman. They want to know her private political views, threaten to go to her neighbors and friends and ruin her reputation, and advise her to lie to these Obama creeps so she doesn't upset the apple cart. They don't have to censor her if she can be re-educated to censor herself. If the leftists can silence decent people who oppose their agenda, they can take over our government, ensconce a permanent Democratic Socialist majority, and stomp on the Constitution like Ayers stomped on the flag.

re: #135 MandyManners

If true that they would not show that lady their badges show she could record the numbers, thats bad.

At that point I would have dialed 911 and asked for assistance for suspected Law Enforcement impersonators.

ACORN - A COCKEYED OBAMA REPARATIONS NETWORK

re: #129 Walter L. Newton

Wait. It's unforunate that the woman at the Obama office probably called the SS and lied, but there was nothing else that the SS could do then to investigate if a threat was actually made.

I don't see anything wrong with this. And it's common for these folks to be a bit heavy handed when gather info. It's there job. Would you want them doing less?

I'd want them not to treat that American citizen as villain of the piece, after it must have been obvious to them that they were handed a made-up case; I'd at least have expected them to give out their warrant cards when asked, because thats what they are obliged to do, aren't they?

What should really be checked however, is - who got them there in the first place? Who was the B0-official who blew this up into something like a threat to the life of B0?
Thats where the thugocracy comes in - its not the heavy-handedness of some SS agents, its the people who sent them there.

re: #124 odinga

In my opinion ACORN is more damaging to OBAMA than Ayers.

ACORN is simpler to understand.

1. Obama worked for ACORN during his community organizer days.
2. Obama sued on the behalf of ACORN.
3. It is common knowledge ACORN = Voter fraud for Obama.
4. ACORN was instrumental in the Sub Prime collapse.
5. Obama campaign donated $800,000 to ACORN.

The CO is ACORN stands for community organizer. And we all know who is the most famous community organizer in the world.

Say it Loud!
ACORN
ACORN
ACORN

Absolutely. Expect more on ACORN- it's not going away.

ACORN is at the center of both the economic meltdown and national voter fraud.

America, are you enjoying your first taste of COMMUNITY ORGANIZING? Lots more to come if America does not wake up this month.

Is this true?

OBAMA IQ = 130
McCain IQ = 138

Just like how Kerry was so smart and Bush was dumb even though Bush has better grades at HARVARD and even had a higher IQ than Lurch.

Obama Deadheads whine after being caught violating ticket limits for benefit show.

The latest question is: are tickets good or not? This stems from a Ratdog.org member PSU Kelly attempting to buy a ticket despite already being over the allowed limit, only to pull up a seat she thought she had. She contacted Ticketmaster and a representative did in fact confirm since she purchased more then two ticket limit her orders were cancelled. She immediately informed fellow concert goers of the dilemma for the tickets were cancel with an unusual twist. While PSUKelly knew she broke the rules, she thought she was in the free and clear as she had the hard tickets in her hand. She was not contacted by Ticketmaster for several days after the cancellation was made, when she then received an email telling her what she already knew. Other Ratdog.org members claimed the same had happened to them.

When things get weird, reload.

OK, I did, and the login box is no longer hugging my bottom.

But the typing is slow again ...

re: #143 USA

ACORN is at the center of both the economic meltdown and national voter fraud.

America, are you enjoying your first taste of COMMUNITY ORGANIZING? Lots more to come if America does not wake up this month.

ACORN is now affixed to OBAMA's Ayers like white on rice. Not Condi.

I just saw the Fox interview with John Fund and Scott Levenson from ACORN.

Fund didn't get out 15 seconds of commentary without that candyass douchebag Levenson interrupting him. What a fuc*ing asshole Scott Levenson is; this guy represents the a truly disgusting organization that is conducting voter fraud in the US.

re: #144 odinga

Is this true?

OBAMA IQ = 130
McCain IQ = 138

Just like how Kerry was so smart and Bush was dumb even though Bush has better grades at HARVARD and even had a higher IQ than Lurch.

Where did you find that? I think the estimate is on the high side for both of them, frankly.

re: #144 odinga

Is this true?

OBAMA IQ = 130
McCain IQ = 138

Just like how Kerry was so smart and Bush was dumb even though Bush has better grades at HARVARD and even had a higher IQ than Lurch.

I doubt both.

re: #67 arethusa

Clearly the man likes his pie. And has promised a slice of pie to everyone in America, except the top 5% income earners.

They get to pick up the check, and they'd better leave a big tip, too.

1858 DP Platform, further snippets:

Resolved, That we reiterate with renewed energy of purpose the well-considered declarations of former conventions upon the sectional issue of domestic slavery, and concerning the reserved rights of the states—

1. That Congress has no power under the constitution to interfere with or control the domestic institutions of the several states, and that all such states are the sole and proper judges of everything appertaining to their own affairs not prohibited by the constitution; that all efforts of the Abolitionists or others, made to induce Congress to interfere with questions of slavery, or to take incipient steps in relation thereto, are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences, and that all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people and endanger the stability and permanency of the Union, and ought not to be countenanced by any friend of our political institutions.

2. That the foregoing proposition covers and was intended to embrace the whole subject of slavery agitation in Congress, and therefore the Democratic party of the Union, standing on this national platform, will abide by and adhere to a faithful execution of the acts known as the compromise measures, settled by the Congress of 1850—"the act for reclaiming fugitives from service or labor" included; which act, being designed to carry out an express provision of the constitution, can not, with fidelity thereto, be repealed, or so changed as to destroy or impair its efficiency.

And they had the gall to conclude:

Resolved, finally, That in view of the condition of the popular institutions in the old world (and the dangerous tendencies of sectional agitation, combined with the attempt to enforce civil and religious disabilities against the rights of acquiring and enjoying citizenship in our own land), a high and sacred duty is devolved, with increased responsibility, upon the Democratic party of this country, as the party of the Union, to uphold and maintain the rights of every state, and thereby the union of the states, and to sustain and advance among us constitutional liberty, by continuing to resist all monopolies and exclusive legislation for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many, and by a vigilant and constant adherence to those principles and compromises of the constitution which are broad enough and strong enough to embrace and uphold the Union as it was, the Union as it is, and the Union as it shall be, in the full expression of the energies and capacity of this great and progressive people.

Right. They wanted to sustain constitutional liberty by preserving the institution of slavery.

Are Obama, Jackson, Sharpton, et al., aware of the history of their own party?

BHO goes after speech.

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re: #150 itellu3times

Both seem high to me. We're looking at 110-120 max for those guys.

re: #144 odinga

Is this true?

OBAMA IQ = 130
McCain IQ = 138

Just like how Kerry was so smart and Bush was dumb even though Bush has better grades at HARVARD and even had a higher IQ than Lurch.

Did you all know Kerry was in Vietnam? Too bad he didn't mention it once or twice during his campaign!

re: #149 doppelganglander

Where did you find that? I think the estimate is on the high side for both of them, frankly.

RealClearPolitics, right banner

re: #142 Sharmuta

Don't forget Rezko. He may have something interesting to say now that he's starting to sing to the feds... Hopefully they have him in protective custody.

re: #157 E.T.

Don't forget Rezko. He may have something interesting to say now that he's starting to sing to the feds... Hopefully they have him in protective custody.

You only have to worry about that with the Clinton's.

re: #157 E.T.

I've been following that closely:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #153 MandyManners

[Link: www.swamppolitics.com...]

[Link: www.politico.com...]

[Link: www.politico.com...]

ACORN ACORN ACORN!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

It's not going away.

This guy says....
Barack Obama's IQ is ~116

Sounds about right to me.

The msm is happy with McCain saying Obama is an awesome dude, so everything is okay in America today.

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

re: #139 JohnnyReb

If true that they would not show that lady their badges show she could record the numbers, thats bad.

At that point I would have dialed 911 and asked for assistance for suspected Law Enforcement impersonators.

So would I.

re: #4 Sharmuta

When things get weird, vote McCain anyways.

-Sharmuta

If You Wanna Get To Heaven, You Got To Raise A Little Hell

-Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #108 Kosh's Shadow

See the previous thread. It looks like that Iranian cargo ship was a big dirty bomb to be set off near Israel.
Link

What is the source for these items I wonder?

...Following this initial rebuff, the pirates broke open one of the containers and discovered it to be filled with packets of what they said was “a powdery fine sandy soil” ....

...sixteen of the pirates subsequently died,...

...the same does not apply to the Russians and so it is that we learn the real story of the MV Iran Deyanat. She was an enormous floating dirty bomb, intended to detonate after exiting the Suez Canal at the eastern end of the Mediterranean and in proximity to the coastal cities of Israel. The entire cargo of radioactive sand, obtained by Iran from China (the latter buys desperately needed oil from the former) and sealed in containers which, when the charges on the ship are set off after the crew took to the boats, will be blasted high into the air where prevailing winds will push the highly dangerous and radioactive cloud ashore...

...This ship was nothing more nor less than the long-anticipated Iranian attack on Israel. Not the expected rocket attacks (which could be intercepted by the Israelis) but an even more deadly and unexpected attack by sea..

I've been keeping track of this story since it happened and seen nothing of these particular items. The only source I can locate right now is bloggers quoting other bloggers quoting other bloggers.

Does anyone know of a legitimate news source quoting these particular items?

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

Moby?

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

I almost don't mind if McCain backs off of Obama;s character, as long as he keeps mentioning his characterS

re: #157 E.T.

Sorry- that's not really about rezco, but I have been following this closely:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #168 MandyManners

Moby?

Idiot. I'm sure she's a nice old lady but she's stupid.

Good afternoon everyone!
Whew, exhaustive day trying to keep up with a 2 year old. Took her pumpkin picking with the mandatory hay ride, to watch a cranberry harvest, and to watch the rescue of this years wayward celebrity Manatee, who was captured in Sesuit harbor, and is as we speak on his way south, to Sea World in Florida for rehab. I have petted horses, dogs, chased frogs, fed ducks and bought cranberries to make cranberry sauce with to go with a chicken dinner tonight. I'm pooped. Thank god hubby has her now for a few hours, the all important ice cream foray with grampa. Hopefully, they go to Connecticut for ice cream. I need a break!
If anyone is interested in the Manatee rescue, it will be up on:
[Link: www.ifaw.org...] but, I cannot get the link to work at the moment, will check it later. Maybe it is just me.

re: #164 Charles

My friends, please don't be a mob.

re: #126 lazardo

Jesus. Pontius Pilate was a governor.

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Heh.

re: #156 odinga

RealClearPolitics, right banner

That's a Google ad, my friend.

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

It's important for McCain to point out Obama's unsavory associations, but the fact is the American people should be more savvy than this. Really, I blame it on them for letting this sort of candidate get this far.

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

He personally can back off in these town hall meetings - his campaign advertisements, the RNC, the 527s, Sarah Palin need not ...
Nor need the blogs, nor need the campaigners on the ground.

Wasn't there one of Wellingtons sayings, about marching separately and defeating the enemy together?

re: #155 sattv4u2

Did you all know Kerry was in Vietnam? Too bad he didn't mention it once or twice during his campaign!

/He was in Cambodia, also. ; )

We will never understand why ACORN is a stickier meme than AYERS but we must run with what sticks; and ACORN my friends will be superglued to Oblabla for all perpetuity.

Apparently VOTER FRAUD is a higher crime than BOMBING the Pentagon. Who would have guessed? It must be the sub prime melt instigated and perpetrated by ACORN. This factoid is now stamped into our collective conscious. So be it.

The ACORN does not fall far from the OBama Campaign Tree.

re: #164 Charles

With friends like that lady in red, who needs enemies?

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

I wasn't suggesting that she talk brats in Philly. The closest thing to brats in Philly is kalbasi (sp?).

Kielbasa. Along with Vodka, Poland's gift to the world.

re: #164 Charles

Could have easily been a plant from the Obama campaign

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re: #183 Racer X

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me likey ,,, me dingy you uppy

I've fallen behind on my election coverage -- what is this about people at his rallies being/pretending to be a mob?

Did something happen?

re: #156 odinga

RealClearPolitics, right banner

That electoral map makes me want to get in the bathtub with a razor blade.

All three of these people have admitted to filling out multiple applications. The links for each individual have been posted here on LGF. Notice how SoS Brunner is mentioned in this clip.

Interview with JENNIFER BRUNNER (D), OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE.
The videos are half way down the page. Amazing how Brunner refuses to believe the facts.

Both of these video have linking information.

Looks like a lot of bones are being buried in the backyard.

re: #155 sattv4u2

Did you all know Kerry was in Vietnam? Too bad he didn't mention it once or twice during his campaign!

Kerry was in Vietnam? Huh? I didn't know that. Did he do anything while over there besides terrorize civilians and commit war crimes?

/sarcasm

re: #108 Kosh's Shadow

See the previous thread. It looks like that Iranian cargo ship was a big dirty bomb to be set off near Israel.
Link

Not likely. Stratfor

If and when Iran attacks, they will go for a knock-out punch. Anything less means suicide for them. But then again, they are Muslims.

re: #188 Perplexed

Kerry was in Vietnam? Huh? I didn't know that. Did he do anything while over there besides terrorize civilians and commit war crimes?

/sarcasm

He also wore a special hat. A very special hat.
/channeling Dr. Seuss

re: #185 Cognito

I've fallen behind on my election coverage -- what is this about people at his rallies being/pretending to be a mob?

Did something happen?

geeezz louise ,,, how stories get started. Mccain said that we should not be afraid of an Obama Presidency, should it come to that. The crowd didn't like that and loudly booed ,,,

some mob! you'll get the same reaction when a baseball umpire blows a call!

re: #186 capitalist piglet

That electoral map makes me want to get in the bathtub with a razor blade electric toaster.

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

Placebo conservative, Charles

re: #108 Kosh's Shadow

re: #167 Outrider

The hijacked Iranian ship was released by the pirates yesterday. It's heading into international waters.

Somali pirates release hijacked Iranian ship

TEHRAN (AFP) — Pirates released an Iranian ship that had been hijacked off the Somali coast in August, state news agency IRNA reported on Friday.

"The ship Dianat was released on Friday morning after seven weeks of ... negotiations with Somali pirates," the state-owned Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines said in statement carried by the agency.

"All 29 members of the crew are safe and sound and the ship is sailing towards international waters," it said.

re: #185 Cognito

McCain supporters are losing their marbles.....
McCain booed after telling crowd to be respectful to Obama

The lady in red is pretty bad.

re: #185 Cognito

That's why I asked.

Re my #194,

Granted, that's IRNA making the claim, so who knows.

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

Headline in the Seattle paper today: MCCAIN DEFENDS OBAMA

Next above-the-fold story: Palin abused power, panel says

(Paraphrasing on the second one.)

The McCain headline font was almost the size of "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN".

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

My guess would be an Obama plant, just as I suspect the other one advocating shooting probably was.

This crap reminds me of the 1960 election cycle. Nixon won but Kennedy and his organization in both Chicago and Texas committed massive voter fraud.

re: #186 capitalist piglet

I'm not sure what to believe anymore

re: #194 Tasty Beverage

re: #167 Outrider

The hijacked Iranian ship was released by the pirates yesterday. It's heading into international waters.

Somali pirates release hijacked Iranian ship

I hope the crew is wearing protective gear

re: #167 Outrider

I've been keeping track of this story since it happened and seen nothing of these particular items. The only source I can locate right now is bloggers quoting other bloggers quoting other bloggers.

Does anyone know of a legitimate news source quoting these particular items?

Not those items. I still think whatever is in the ship is radioactive, though.
The more I think about it, though, trying to set off a dirty bomb at any distance from the target would contaminate a massive area, if it worked at all and didn't just contaminate large areas of the ocean, so I might fall back on my original idea that it was aimed at a western port.
I think a lot of countries would be upset at Iran if fishing in the Mediterranean was unsafe for a few thousand years.

re: #199 CapeCoddah

That excuse never worked for lefties and it's not going to work for righties. No offense but I think it just compounds the embarrassment.

Ooohhhh - this is just right for the weekend ...

look at this ...

(via Hillbuzz)

re: #195 Killgore Trout

McCain supporters are losing their marbles.....
McCain booed after telling crowd to be respectful to Obama

The lady in red is pretty bad.

Good Lord. What a pack of morons.

McCain squashed it with honor -- note how he whipped the microphone from that last gal -- but when a candidate has to 'squash' the vibe at his own rally, that hurts.

re: #200 Perplexed

This crap reminds me of the 1960 election cycle. Nixon won but Kennedy and his organization in both Chicago and Texas committed massive voter fraud.

I just saw an Ohio election official being interviewed, she said they have found thousands of voter registrations that have no SSN, DOB, addresses that do not exist, double and triple registrations, etc... They are going thru all of them, and turning them over to the FBI. She seemed determined to clean up her county, at least.

re: #102 Walter L. Newton

"Would you like to piss on a star" walking down Hollywood Bvld,"

Next 2 lines please,

Carry moonbats home in a jar
and be worse off than you are

re: #201 E.T.

I'm not sure what to believe anymore

WOW. Seriously - thank you for that. (Maybe I'll just get in the tub, and save the razor blades for November 5th, in case I need them then - we might actually be all right.)

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

Charles, we just have to frigging forget about it, and forge ahead. If we spend all our time agonizing over every damn misstep November 4 will come and go before we know it. This truly is a war with a deadline.

Go to this Link and you will see the ACORN state directory. Click on a State and then the email address will appear. Maybe we should tell ACORN that they are a bunch of freaking race baiting liars.

The ACORN home page suggests that McCain is just trying to suppress the vote by making false accusations against ACORN.

Tell ACORN President Maude Hurd that ACORN DID cause the sub prime melt down. Get them off their game. Rattle their cage. They will soon reveal themselves under the light of full exposure.

Scream Lizards, Scream like banshees

re: #194 Tasty Beverage

re: #167 Outrider

The hijacked Iranian ship was released by the pirates yesterday. It's heading into international waters.

Somali pirates release hijacked Iranian ship

I hope the US Navy and the other Navies there are keeping their beady eyes on that particular ship ...

re: #204 Killgore Trout

That excuse never worked for lefties and it's not going to work for righties. No offense but I think it just compounds the embarrassment.

No offense taken, Killgore, Just wondering. It is really not that far fetched. They (libs) are even more rabid this year.

That woman could have been a plant or she could be a right winger. After the stuff with GoV and pamela, paulbots and pat buchanan it's not like we can get airs that we don't have racists in our ranks. They should be shunned, obviously, but we can't just chalk it up to a moby.

re: #184 sattv4u2

me likey ,,, me dingy you uppy

Down ding for grammar!
/ ;-)

re: #206 Cognito

He could have responded better but his instinct was to distance himself as much as possible from her bigotry. Rightly so. This does fit in with the other stories we've heard lately that McCain rallies are getting ugly.

re: #207 CapeCoddah

I just saw an Ohio election official being interviewed, she said they have found thousands of voter registrations that have no SSN, DOB, addresses that do not exist, double and triple registrations, etc... They are going thru all of them, and turning them over to the FBI. She seemed determined to clean up her county, at least.

Good and I hope that the perps really have the book thrown at them. Voter fraud undermines our entire political process and disenfranchises real voters.

re: #214 Sharmuta

That woman could have been a plant or she could be a right winger. After the stuff with GoV and pamela, paulbots and pat buchanan it's not like we can get airs that we don't have racists in our ranks. They should be shunned, obviously, but we can't just chalk it up to a moby.

Sharm...see my #193.

re: #200 Perplexed

This crap reminds me of the 1960 election cycle. Nixon won but Kennedy and his organization in both Chicago and Texas committed massive voter fraud.

What?

re: #189 reno911

Not likely. Stratfor

If and when Iran attacks, they will go for a knock-out punch. Anything less means suicide for them. But then again, they are Muslims.

This only gets me to a page for an offer to join, which I'm not interested in doing right now. What do they say?

ACORN ACORN ACORN!

It's not going away- and people are noticing!

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

re: #212 yma o hyd

Is that the ship that mysteriously made the pirates sick?

re: #194 Tasty Beverage

re: #167 Outrider

The hijacked Iranian ship was released by the pirates yesterday. It's heading into international waters.

Somali pirates release hijacked Iranian ship

I hope we're tracking it, or someone is going to get a dirty surprise.
That level of radiation should be detectable, especially once the pirates opened a container.

re: #198 capitalist piglet

Headline in the Seattle paper today: MCCAIN DEFENDS OBAMA

Next above-the-fold story: Palin abused power, panel says

(Paraphrasing on the second one.)

The McCain headline font was almost the size of "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN".

Like McCain stands a chance in Seattle anyway.

We just can't let it get us down, goddammit! Why are people so bound and determined to spread gloom and discouragement?

re: #216 Killgore Trout

He could have responded better but his instinct was to distance himself as much as possible from her bigotry. Rightly so. This does fit in with the other stories we've heard lately that McCain rallies are getting ugly.

I'm not convinced it's part of any broad pattern, just yet. There are full-blown idiots on both sides -- right and left -- but McCain's are getting more exposure than Obama's because he does those Town Hall meetings. If he addressed people from a podium, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

re: #205 yma o hyd

Ooohhhh - this is just right for the weekend ...

look at this ...

(via Hillbuzz)

Whats up with Obama's suddenly graying hair?

re: #221 Sharmuta

ACORN ACORN ACORN!

It's not going away- and people are noticing!

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

The acorn won't fall in the Oval Office!

re: #209 capitalist piglet

WOW. Seriously - thank you for that. (Maybe I'll just get in the tub, and save the razor blades for November 5th, in case I need them then - we might actually be all right.)

PEOPLE LIZARDS,
ignore the freakin polls. The latest Newsweek poll that showed Obama up +11 was oversampled with DEMS by 30% for chrisssake.

I backcalculated the Newsweek poll with an equal weighting and it IS A DEAD HEAT TIE.

re: #215 jcm

Down ding for grammar!
/ ;-)

I WUZ ROBBED !

re: #199 CapeCoddah

My guess would be an Obama plant, just as I suspect the other one advocating shooting probably was.

Dirty Astroturf at Republican Rallies.

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

Gayle Quinnell

re: #225 Cognito

Agreed. Those town halls with unmoderated questions are risky.

re: #229 sattv4u2

I WUZ ROBBED !

LOL!

re: #227 jcm

The acorn won't fall in the Oval Office!

Who knew a little nut could destroy HOPE?

re: #219 debutaunt

What?

Nixon won the election in 1960 if you disregard the voter fraud from Chicago and Texas. He opted to not contest the election results because he wanted America to at least appear united under a new president. Nixon also invited Martin Luther King to the White House during the Eisenhower administration.

re: #194 Tasty Beverage

re: #167 Outrider

The hijacked Iranian ship was released by the pirates yesterday. It's heading into international waters.

Somali pirates release hijacked Iranian ship

Thanks for the info.

re: #188 Perplexed

He filmed the remake of the movie Ghengis Khan.

re: #230 Colonel Panik

Dirty Astroturf at Republican Rallies.

Rally Mobys!

re: #209 capitalist piglet

WOW. Seriously - thank you for that. (Maybe I'll just get in the tub, and save the razor blades for November 5th, in case I need them then - we might actually be all right.)

Its the further link from there which has the goodies ...

ACORN must be kept on the front burner from now on!

re: #153 MandyManners

BHO goes after speech.

[Link: campaignspot.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.kmov.com...]

[Link: thebigfeed.blogspot.com...]

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

Denver DA office is lock, stock and entitlements hooked into the Dems. No officer will ever see a the insides of a courtroom.

re: #216 Killgore Trout

He could have responded better but his instinct was to distance himself as much as possible from her bigotry. Rightly so. This does fit in with the other stories we've heard lately that McCain rallies are getting ugly.

Well, KT, I can understand why. There's just so much a person can take.

People are beyond distressed. They are seeing their way of life being destroyed at the financial, political and societal level and there is nothing else that they can do.

re: #164 Charles

Has anyone mentioned who that woman was at the McCain town hall last night, the one who said, "Oh noes! Obama's a Arab?"

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

The fall-out is pretty massive. McCain is backing off from the attacks on Obama's character.

Obama's grandmother!

re: #222 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Is that the ship that mysteriously made the pirates sick?

Indeed it is!
I think it should be sent home to Iran ...

re: #164 Charles

Save us from our friends, indeed. Played right into the MSM meme that McCain was inciting a mob mentality.

They would make something up anyway.

ACORN Response to Senator McCain’s Smear Ad

If John McCain thinks that community organizers caused the foreclosure crisis, he knows even less about the economy than previously thought.

Nice try, thugs.

re: #203 Kosh's Shadow

Not those items. I still think whatever is in the ship is radioactive, though.
The more I think about it, though, trying to set off a dirty bomb at any distance from the target would contaminate a massive area, if it worked at all and didn't just contaminate large areas of the ocean, so I might fall back on my original idea that it was aimed at a western port.
I think a lot of countries would be upset at Iran if fishing in the Mediterranean was unsafe for a few thousand years.

Oh, I agree. It for sure was not iron ore as claimed.

I was just surprised to see such claims as I outlined being made and couldn't find a source for them, except for an on-line magazine. I figured their credibility was kind of shot as they maintain Pres Bush was responsible for blowing up the WTC.

re: #243 Walter L. Newton

Obama's grandmother!

Oh yes, a typical whitey.

/s

re: #220 Kosh's Shadow

Sorry about he link. Think disruption vice destruction.

Effects of a Dirty Bomb

Perhaps the biggest misconception about dirty bombs -- and there are many -- has to do with their effects. Although radioactive material is utilized in constructing them, they are not nuclear or atomic weapons. They do not produce a nuclear chain reaction and, therefore, the employment of such a device will not produce an "American Hiroshima." In fact, there can be a wide range of effects produced by a dirty bomb depending on the size of the IED and the amount and type of radioactive material involved. Environmental factors such as terrain, weather conditions and population density would also play an important role in determining the effects of such a device.

Generally, a dirty bomb that uses a large quantity of highly dangerous radioactive material such as plutonium-238 or cesium-137 will produce more (and stronger) contamination than a device that uses less material or material that is not as radioactive. However, the most highly radioactive materials are the hardest to obtain and the most difficult to work with. Some materials are so dangerous that even suicide bombers would die before they could use one if they were not properly shielded. For example, in September 1999, two Chechen militants who attempted to steal highly radioactive materials from a chemical plant in the Chechen capital of Grozny were incapacitated after carrying the container for only a few minutes each; one reportedly died.

There are, however, many more-common, less-dangerous materials, such as americium-241 or strontium-90, that would be easier to obtain and work with. It is therefore widely believed that terrorists wanting to construct a dirty bomb would be more likely to use one of them.

According to experts from organizations such as the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements, unless a large quantity of a very highly radioactive material is used, not many people will be immediately killed by the radiation released by a dirty bomb. Rather, the initial casualties will be a result of the explosive effects of the IED, just as they would be in a conventional IED attack without a radiological component. While exposure to very strong sources of radiation at close range could cause fatalities, a dirty bomb by design disperses its radiation over a larger area. Therefore, most of the deaths caused by the radiation in a dirty bomb will most likely be from causes like cancer that will take years to develop. Most people who quickly leave the area contaminated by the dirty bomb will have minimum exposure to radioactivity and should not suffer permanent health consequences.

Keep in mind, however, that a dirty bomb is intended to cause a panic -- and the explosion of such a device in a heavily populated urban area could very well result in a panic that could kill more people than the IED or the radiation it disperses.

It should also be noted that the radiological effects of a dirty bomb will be larger than the killing radius of the IED itself, and will persist for far longer. The explosion from a conventional IED is over in an instant, but radiation from a RDD can persist for decades. While the radiation level may not be strong enough to affect people who are exposed briefly in the initial explosion, the radiation will persist in the contaminated area and the cumulative effects of such radiation could prove very hazardous. (Here again, the area contaminated will depend on the type and quantity of the radioactive material used. Materials in a fine powdered form are easier to disperse than solid blocks of material and some radioactive materials possess a far longer half-life than others.) Due to this contamination, it will be necessary to evacuate people from the contaminated area in many, if not most, cases involving a dirty bomb. People will need to stay out of the area until it can be decontaminated, a process that can be lengthy.