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Tech Note: Tightening the Systems

Science | Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 5:56:22 pm PDT

Behind the scenes, the LGF Blog Engine code is being radically reworked, especially in pages with comments. By optimizing the HTML/Javascript/CSS design, we’ve managed to reduce the size (defined as the amount of HTML code it takes to render the comment in your browser) of each individual comment by about half.

Half, I say. Half.

This is a very good thing, because until we implement Ajax pagination of comments (on the drawing board), reducing the size of each comment is the best way to reduce the size of the entire page. In a page with a thousand comments, saving 10 bytes per comment results in a 10K savings on the size of the page. (And these changes have saved a lot more than 10 bytes per comment.)

Most of the trimming took place in the various elements that make up the top line of each comment, what Stinky and I call the “meta” line; the line that contains the icon and name of the user who posted it, the time and date, and all those little icons for rating, favoriting, reporting, etc. There was a lot of duplicated functionality in that meta line, and it’s all stripped down now.

The meta line is the only remaining table in our main templates, because a table still gives the best display results in all browsers and resolutions. But this table is about as optimized and CSS-ized as we can make it.

The usual web monkey advice applies: if something exhibits odd behavior or refuses to work entirely, clear your browser cache and refresh the page.

As always with these tech threads, big ups to the grooviest Javascript library in the known world, jQuery, without which this would be immeasurably more painful.

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1 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:58:31pm

We knew you were up to something, Charles. Thanks.
;)

2 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:58:40pm
3 rain of lead  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:59:13pm

ahhh! that new thread smell.

4 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 5:59:43pm

t,,H,,i,,,sss W,,o,,R,,k,,S,,, m U c H Be tt Er
thanks Charles

5 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:00:38pm

Whatever you say, dear.

6 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:01:23pm

let's get small...

7 rain of lead  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:01:45pm

re election john mccain
only watch the poll that counts
the election.
till then ignore all other bs

8 Dasher  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:01:52pm

Tight code is good.

9 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:03:17pm

Wow. Great. Whatever all that means. Great.

In other news

Overthrown: Texas upsets Oklahoma, 45-35

10 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:03:32pm

re: #2 jcm

Listen to those Hamsters squeal!

Squeal like a pig!

11 Charles  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:03:51pm

Awesome, ain't it?

12 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:04:09pm
13 Charles  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:04:28pm

And I also officially curse the hellish headwinds of the Southern California coast.

14 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:04:39pm

re: #10 Outrider

Squeal like a pig!

For some reason that song popped into my head.......

15 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:04:40pm

lol

16 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:04:41pm

re: #9 Dar ul Harbarian

heh.

17 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:07:27pm

re: #11 Charles

Awesome, ain't it?

It sure is
You da man
This rocks
WOW
Amazing
Incredible

(ummm,,, can someone tell me in English what "IT" is?)

18 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:09:03pm

re: #13 Charles

And I also officially curse the hellish headwinds of the Southern California coast.


Then how about a bicycle pix?

19 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:09:10pm

re: #13 Charles

Fascist headwinds? Or are they communist? I guess it would depend on whether they're coming from the left or right... /heh

20 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:09:15pm

El Goodo.

The one remaining sore point is the unload code on IE6, that can take forever on a long thread.

Note that you can kill a browser process for free, it's only closing it in good form that is slow. I wonder if there isn't a better way.

I know, it doesn't seem to even be a problem in IE7, and maybe not in other browsers, but even so.

21 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:09:21pm

re: #17 sattv4u2


(ummm,,, can someone tell me in English what "IT" is?)

He's been tweaking the code.....

main( ) {
extrn a, b, c;
putchar(a); putchar(b); putchar(c); putchar('!*n');
}
a 'hell';
b 'o, w';
c 'orld';

22 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:10:00pm

I am your Lord President Obama and thou shalt obey me.

/now, bend over

23 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:10:07pm

Web monkeys like Fritos?

24 WeddingGuy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:10:08pm

You guys are awesome. Blazing new trails in blogging technology while defending the Right flank... AT THE SAME TIME. Wow!

25 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:05pm

re: #13 Charles

And I also officially curse the hellish headwinds of the Southern California coast.

As opposed to casually cursing the hellish headwinds of the Southern California coast? Is that ~really~ more effective?

26 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:10pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

I am your Lord President Obama and thou shalt obey me.

/now, bend over

Obama has not spoken that Frank-ly yet.

27 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:19pm

This is the change we've been waiting for.

28 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:11:48pm

re: #27 itellu3times

This is the change we've been waiting for.

I hope so!

29 Charles  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:12:19pm

re: #20 itellu3times

El Goodo.

The one remaining sore point is the unload code on IE6, that can take forever on a long thread.

Note that you can kill a browser process for free, it's only closing it in good form that is slow. I wonder if there isn't a better way.

I know, it doesn't seem to even be a problem in IE7, and maybe not in other browsers, but even so.

IE6 is on the way out. It's time to move on. I know it's painful, but that browser's days are over. It's only going to get worse from here. Time to upgrade.

30 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:13:16pm

re: #29 Charles

IE6 is on the way out. It's time to move on. I know it's painful, but that browser's days are over. It's only going to get worse from here. Time to upgrade.

Two go out browsing, but only one returns.

/The Law of Fudd

31 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:13:40pm

re: #29 Charles

IE6 is on the way out... Time to upgrade.

To Safari!

32 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:14:00pm

re: #26 OldLineTexan

Obama has not spoken that Frank-ly yet.

/Archangel Pelosi is already spending the money we don't already have

33 irongrampa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:14:05pm

On an unrelated note, it was discovered yet again, today, that Labrador retrievers have NO concept of boating safety.

34 jim in virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:14:20pm

There must be a disturbance in the Force. I actually understood most of what Charles said.
That NEVER happens on tech threads.

35 tblot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:14:24pm

wow quicker and better

36 jim in virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:15:17pm

re: #9 Dar ul Harbarian

Wow. Great. Whatever all that means. Great.

In other news

Overthrown: Texas upsets Oklahoma, 45-35


HOOK EM HORNS!
And my Cornnhuskers choke again

37 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:16:12pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/Archangel Pelosi is already spending the money we don't already have

Oh, come on. It's not like she INVENTED that, is it?

But you would think after a $700bn market enema that they would lock the checkbook up at least until next payday...

38 WindHorse  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:16:19pm

re: #36 jim in virginia

Gig 'em.... :)

39 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:16:24pm

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?

40 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:16:42pm

re: #29 Charles

IE6 is on the way out. It's time to move on. I know it's painful, but that browser's days are over. It's only going to get worse from here. Time to upgrade.

I can't even install a Microsoft service pack on my corporate workstation without an act of Congress and a staff of six. Fortunately it's a little happier there, the dual-core processors are a bit kinder to LGF unloads. But maybe there's like a one-line change, a semi-unclean way to free memory that just happens to work? Unfortunately browser code is not my current expertise, and maybe it is hopeless, or not worth the candle, sorry to nag.

41 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:16:49pm

re: #36 jim in virginia

HOOK EM HORNS!
And my Cornnhuskers choke again

Now how can a Rice man have 'huskers?

/Hanszen '85

42 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:17:45pm

re: #33 irongrampa

On an unrelated note, it was discovered yet again, today, that Labrador retrievers have NO concept of boating safety.

But they're excellent swimmers.

/just in case

43 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:17:50pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?

Hard liquor and ammo store well, but you can use liquor in more places.

44 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:18:22pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?


fear not, for Lord Obama the most merciful will provide all that you require.

45 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:18:34pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?

booze..

46 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:18:57pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/Archangel Pelosi is already spending the money we don't already have

I'm thinking of moving to Pago Pago.

Coconuts and bananas. I can survive with them hanging overhead on trees. But not in Congress.

47 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:19:36pm

re: #44 alien_mind

fear not, for Lord Obama the most merciful will provide all that you require.

A shovel or pick and a hair shirt for you white devils...

48 jim in virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:19:59pm

re: #15 godfrey

Godfrey, are you really running 7:30 miles?
I did 18 today but nowhere near that fast

49 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:20:13pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?

Weapons and ammo.

/in the event of a total societal meltdown, the rest will follow

50 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:20:19pm

re: #46 Cognito

I'm thinking of moving to Pago Pago.

Coconuts and bananas. I can survive with them hanging overhead on trees. But not in Congress.


I hear Costa Rica is loverly in January..

51 jim in virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:20:46pm

re: #30 OldLineTexan

Did I see you're a Rice grad?
'78 here

52 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:20:50pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?

Ammo, without it those with ammo will take the other 3 from you.

53 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:21:02pm

re: #45 joecitizen

booze..

What kind?
Jägermeister or Hennessy?

54 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:22:06pm

Chomsky's not worthy to lick Gov. Palin's boots--but I bet he'd like to!

55 acapesket123  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:22:24pm

re: #33 irongrampa

Labradors s are lovely , sweet creatures without a clue about much of anything. JMHO.

56 rightside  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:22:34pm

re: #46 Cognito

Didn't the castaways on Gilligan's Island survive quite nicely on that?

57 jim in virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:22:51pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

So, what kind of items are the best to stock up on in case on needs to barter during a depression?

Soap?
Ammo?
Tobacco?
Salt?

Any thoughts?

Booze.

58 Charles  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:23:02pm

Here we go again with the Obama birth certificate story.

I think it's time for a Laphroaig.

59 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:23:10pm

re: #39 Dar ul Harbarian

Salt?

Salt is bad for you.

/look what happened to the Roman Empire

60 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:23:37pm

re: #51 jim in virginia

Did I see you're a Rice grad?
'78 here

Yes, I missed that question from you last night, or the day before.

Happy to get the chance to respond now.

61 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:23:38pm

Oopsie! Wrong thread.

62 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:24:01pm

re: #29 Charles

IE6 is on the way out. It's time to move on. I know it's painful, but that browser's days are over. It's only going to get worse from here. Time to upgrade.

I have to agree for home use, for industrial use any multi-tabbed browser creates a lot of challenges for locked down environments. The industrial IE 6 version is going to be out there in a lot of workplaces a while longer.

63 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:24:28pm

re: #53 Dar ul Harbarian

What kind?
Jägermeister or Hennessy?

liquid..

64 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:24:35pm

re: #48 jim in virginia

No, 7:50 miles when I'm trying, but not beyond five or six miles. I have a long way to go, and I keep getting interrupted by travel.

65 jim in virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:24:53pm

re: #41 OldLineTexan
Used to be I could depend on the Huskers to win. Lately the Owls have had better seasons. Heck we're 3-3 and this is off week.

66 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:25:15pm

re: #58 Charles

Macallan! More peat, less weirdness.

67 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:25:22pm

re: #54 MandyManners

Chomsky's not worthy to lick Gov. Palin's boots--but I bet he'd like to!


well, I dunno 'bout her boots...

68 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:25:29pm

re: #53 Dar ul Harbarian

What kind?
Jägermeister or Hennessy?

Mandy and I will have Basil Hayden's, but I see downthread that you will need a nice peaty Scotch for the Lizard King.

69 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:26:04pm

re: #68 OldLineTexan

Mandy and I will have Basil Hayden's, but I see downthread that you will need a nice peaty Scotch for the Lizard King.

Indeed.

70 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:26:55pm

I'm looking for a good rye whiskey. Any recs out there?

71 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:27:10pm

re: #65 jim in virginia

Used to be I could depend on the Huskers to win. Lately the Owls have had better seasons. Heck we're 3-3 and this is off week.

My wife's related to the baseball coach, so I try to keep up; I have to say after four years in da MOB I really don't have any feelings for Rice football. ;)

72 Dar ul Harbarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:27:19pm

re: #58 Charles

Here we go again with the Obama birth certificate story.

I think it's time for a Laphroaig.

That would be good for bartering. Tastes like licking a fireplace, though.

73 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:28:17pm

Vote Obama.

/unless you don't think government spending's already out of control

74 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:28:19pm

re: #72 Dar ul Harbarian

That would be good for bartering. Tastes like licking a fireplace, though.


ok..this is officially the 'licking' thread..

75 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:28:37pm

re: #43 OldLineTexan

Hard liquor and ammo store well, but you can use liquor in more places.


but with the ammo, you can take the liquor from those that don't believe in violence.

76 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:28:52pm

re: #70 godfrey

I'm looking for a good rye whiskey. Any recs out there?

There is ONE, repeat ONE brand of rye available at a really big local chain nearby. But I have not checked downtown at their main place (2 city blocks of booze and sundry).

77 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:28:54pm

re: #72 Dar ul Harbarian

That would be good for bartering. Tastes like licking a fireplace, though.

Hey, I'm no Scotch fan but, please.

78 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:29:24pm

Ow now, insultin' a men's whisky! Eet's an outrage. You'll be settlin' it at games. Golf. Chewse yer weppon.

79 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:29:54pm

re: #74 joecitizen

ok..this is officially the 'licking' thread..

Between Palin's boots and DuH's fireplace, you might be right.

80 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:30:10pm

re: #75 Outrider

but with the ammo, you can take the liquor from those that don't believe in violence.

Assuming you have the firearms, and HOPING that they haven't CHANGED their minds.

81 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:30:47pm

re: #76 OldLineTexan

OLT, it's like we're living in East Germany. Where's all the feckin rye? Surely to God there's more to be had for one's Manhattan than "Old Overholt."

82 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:31:26pm

re: #56 rightside

Didn't the castaways on Gilligan's Island survive quite nicely on that?

Indeed. And no feral Pelosis swinging overhead.

83 irongrampa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:31:45pm

re: #55 acapesket123

Been owned for 8 years by a strict but loving black lab. This dog is indeed sweet, but hardly clueless.
I often say, she's smarter than some of the guys I worked with.

84 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:32:16pm

I likes me some Glenlivet..and there's another Scotch with a name you gargle. I had a tiny little bottle in a gimmicky gift box...it was nice!

85 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:32:45pm

re: #70 godfrey

I'm looking for a good rye whiskey. Any recs out there?

No fan of Whiskey here, but here's what Esquire had to say about ryes in '06:

For generations, rye has played Abel to bourbon's Cain. Lately, though, it's begun showing a little fight: an uptick in its anemic sales, a handful of new premium brands--we especially like Old Potrero Hotaling's whiskey ($65), a rich and wildly pungent eleven-year-old made from 100 percent malted rye--and even a surprise win on the competitive tasting circuit.

Last year, we proclaimed Rittenhouse Bottled in Bond rye whiskey as "The Best (Cheap) Whiskey in the World." Chuffed by this and other recent accolades the fourteen-dollar product had been gathering, its maker, Kentucky's Heaven Hill Distilleries, entered it this year in the rigorous and prestigious San Francisco World Spirits Competition (and I call it that despite the fact that they let me be a judge). The Top North American Whiskey category almost always goes to a bourbon--usually an expensive one. As I left the judging early to catch a flight, I thought, Why should this year be any different?

I shoulda stayed. The winner was our old friend Rittenhouse. I'm not saying that this is like the famous 1976 tasting in which California wines beat French ones, but it kinda is. And, as if in celebration, this fall Heaven Hill is releasing the Rittenhouse Very Rare Twenty-One-Year-Old single-barrel rye, a truly noble whiskey but, at $150 a bottle, not a cheap one.

86 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:32:52pm

re: #13 Charles

And I also officially curse the hellish headwinds of the Southern California coast.

ride backwards, problem solved.

87 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:33:32pm

re: #81 godfrey

OLT, it's like we're living in East Germany. Where's all the feckin rye? Surely to God there's more to be had for one's Manhattan than "Old Overholt."

Maybe we ARE in East Germany. OMG. It would explain Obama's rally as well as Chris Matthew's leg tingle...

88 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:33:52pm

re: #74 joecitizen

ok..this is officially the 'licking' thread..

/lick yourself!

89 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:33:53pm

The single malt for Election Day, 2008:
[Link: www.themaestro.com...]

90 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:34:13pm

re: #70 godfrey

I'm looking for a good rye whiskey. Any recs out there?

Basiil Hayden's, Baker's, Booker's and Knob Creek.

91 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:34:31pm

re: #82 Cognito

Indeed. And no feral Pelosis swinging overhead.

I don't often say this, but ewwwwwww...

92 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:34:51pm

re: #12 jcm

Well, that's one way to deal with a Moby, Dick.

93 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:35:01pm

re: #90 MandyManners

Basiil Hayden's, Baker's, Booker's and Knob Creek.

Mandy, my dear...none of those are rye whiskeys...

94 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:35:16pm

re: #71 OldLineTexan I played cowbell a couple years in the MOB. I was in the Dome when the Judge censored the script.

95 Dasher  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:35:22pm

re: #79 MandyManners

Between Palin's boots and DuH's fireplace, you might be right.

Speaking of Sarah's boots, are you referring to her over the knee boots... I really want to see a pic of her in those.

96 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:35:27pm

re: #88 Killian Bundy

/lick yourself!


if I could, I'd never get nuthin' done..heh

97 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:37:04pm

WHAP

/on the bottom, of course

98 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:37:05pm

re: #96 joecitizen

if I could, I'd never get nuthin' done..heh

i've thrown myself into traction more times than I care to remember tryin ,,,, ummm,,,,,oh ,, was I typing that out loud ?

99 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:37:41pm

Listening to a parade of historical and economic ignorance on the McLaughlin Group, might as well be farting in Farsi for all the sense they make.

Waitaminute, Mort Zuckerman is making some sense, which he wasn't a few weeks ago.

OK, carry on.

100 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:37:56pm

re: #80 OldLineTexan

Assuming you have the firearms, and HOPING that they haven't CHANGED their minds.

Yup. Yo, my good man, let me have a 2 boxes of those Hydra-Shoks 9mms please. Yeah, the Federal Premiums. What? Do I have a gun? Do I really need one for these? Ahhh. I see. Well, damn. Give me a pack of gum then.
;-)>

101 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:38:33pm

US Rye Whiskey
Anchor Distilling Company
Old Potrero
Old Potrero 18th Century (100% rye mash, oak barrels are toasted rather than charred as for modern whiskey)
Old Potrero Single Malt Hotaling's Whiskey
Austin Nichols (Pernod Ricard)
Wild Turkey Rye Whiskey [1]
Russell's Reserve Rye [2]
Buffalo Trace
Sazerac 6 Year
Sazerac 18 Year
Classic Cask
Classic Cask Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey 21 Year
Heaven Hill
Rittenhouse Rye 80 proof
Rittenhouse Rye 100 proof Bottled In Bond
Pikesville
Vintage 23 Year
Vintage 21 Year
High West Distillery
Rendezvous Rye Whiskey (blend of 6-year-old 95% rye and 16-year-old 80% rye)
Hirsch Selection
Vintage 22 Year
Jim Beam
Jim Beam Rye (Yellow Label)
Kentucky Bourbon Distillers, Ltd
Red Hook Rye 23 Year (not to be confused with the rye beer made by Redhook Ale Brewery )
Michters American Whiskey Co.
Michters
Michters 10 Year
Old Overholt
Old Rip Van Winkle (now distilled by Buffalo Trace)
Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 Year
Old Rip Van Winkle Old Time Rye 12 Year
Templeton Rye
Rare Perfection
Tuthilltown Spirits
Hudson Manhattan Rye
Government Warning Rye
Very Olde St. Nick
Very Olde St. Nick 12 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick 15 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick 17 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick 18 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick Winter Rye
Very Olde St. Nick Summer Rye

102 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:39:08pm

re: #94 Jim in Virginia

I played cowbell a couple years in the MOB. I was in the Dome when the Judge censored the script.

HA! By the time I was in, we got new uniforms (sophomore year) and an actual band director (Ken Dye). We had ONE veteran of the A&M massacre left, and I attended the glorious non-lethal return of the MOB to Kyle Field. I was also present (front and center) at the inglorious failure of the Aggie "Block T" at Rice Stadium...I was right on the yardline where a 4-man squad with three seniors missed their turn. I did the alumni thing for a few years, and actually almost had to beat an Aggie with my tenor saxophone who thought he would take revenge on a female alum as we exited...

103 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:39:09pm

re: #84 OldLineTexan

I likes me some Glenlivet..and there's another Scotch with a name you gargle. I had a tiny little bottle in a gimmicky gift box...it was nice!

BFF in college still is in love with Talisker. She loves it so much that she named one of her Bouvier des Flanders after it.

104 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:40:20pm

jquery;$("p.neat").addClass("ohmy").show("slow");

jquery; Hey Joe where ya going with that taco.
ugh, well i'm lacking in ("p.neat")ness. class, depending on whom we are asking, (" Oh My"), telling my husband i'm again pregnant. Yes he was slow to respond"("slow") ..(fearing for his life : P

that's my take on computer stuff.

105 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:40:30pm

I am in awe of the Lizard Nation.

/thank you!

106 Midwestprof  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:40:39pm

re: #58 Charles

Here we go again with the Obama birth certificate story.

I think it's time for a Laphroaig.

Man after my own heart--except I quit a few years ago. Still dream of Laphroaig, though.

107 Griffon[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:40:41pm
108 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:41:02pm

re: #93 OldLineTexan

Mandy, my dear...none of those are rye whiskeys...

What the bloody fuck are you talking about?

[Link: www.smallbatch.com...]

109 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:41:15pm

re: #103 MandyManners

BFF in college still is in love with Talisker. She loves it so much that she named one of her Bouvier des Flanders after it.

Well, yeah, cuz after a couple you ain't saying THAT very well...

110 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:41:18pm

re: #102 OldLineTexan
Do you know Grungy?

111 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:41:34pm

re: #101 Thanos

US Rye Whiskey
Anchor Distilling Company
Old Potrero
Old Potrero 18th Century (100% rye mash, oak barrels are toasted rather than charred as for modern whiskey)
Old Potrero Single Malt Hotaling's Whiskey
Austin Nichols (Pernod Ricard)
Wild Turkey Rye Whiskey [1]
Russell's Reserve Rye [2]
Buffalo Trace
Sazerac 6 Year
Sazerac 18 Year
Classic Cask
Classic Cask Kentucky Straight Rye Whiskey 21 Year
Heaven Hill
Rittenhouse Rye 80 proof
Rittenhouse Rye 100 proof Bottled In Bond
Pikesville
Vintage 23 Year
Vintage 21 Year
High West Distillery
Rendezvous Rye Whiskey (blend of 6-year-old 95% rye and 16-year-old 80% rye)
Hirsch Selection
Vintage 22 Year
Jim Beam
Jim Beam Rye (Yellow Label)
Kentucky Bourbon Distillers, Ltd
Red Hook Rye 23 Year (not to be confused with the rye beer made by Redhook Ale Brewery )
Michters American Whiskey Co.
Michters
Michters 10 Year
Old Overholt
Old Rip Van Winkle (now distilled by Buffalo Trace)
Van Winkle Family Reserve Rye 13 Year
Old Rip Van Winkle Old Time Rye 12 Year
Templeton Rye
Rare Perfection
Tuthilltown Spirits
Hudson Manhattan Rye
Government Warning Rye
Very Olde St. Nick
Very Olde St. Nick 12 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick 15 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick 17 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick 18 Year Rye
Very Olde St. Nick Winter Rye
Very Olde St. Nick Summer Rye

Rye Whiskey

112 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:41:35pm

re: #95 Dasher

Speaking of Sarah's boots, are you referring to her over the knee boots... I really want to see a pic of her in those.

Better talk to Todd.

113 zerodamage  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:41:54pm

Ah here we go. Finally a tech thread. You know what would be a neat feature Charles? Being notified either by text message or email or something whenever a certain tag is used for a thread. So if you created a new tech post, the "tech" tag would trigger a text message to those who subscribed to it and we would be notified.

114 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:09pm

re: #45 joecitizen

weed.

115 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:09pm

plenty o' 'kill whitey' undertones, to be sure.

116 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:09pm

re: #110 Jim in Virginia

I been Grungy a time or two...

117 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:20pm

re: #107 Griffon
the "that one " comment?

I've often pointed to one of my children when my husband asks what happened to his (fill in blank)

118 Wishing  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:32pm

The one iNTERESTING bit of the birth certificate story is that it does explain why we cant see his school or medical records, as they would divulge citizenship

119 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:36pm

re: #99 itellu3times

Listening to a parade of historical and economic ignorance on the McLaughlin Group, might as well be farting in Farsi for all the sense they make.

Waitaminute, Mort Zuckerman is making some sense, which he wasn't a few weeks ago.

OK, carry on.

VIX at 70, load up on DIA and ride the waves, long or short, multiple times a day.

/easy money

120 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:49pm

re: #108 MandyManners

lol

Mandy, allow me to buy you a drink, please.

121 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:42:56pm

re: #107 Griffon

*WHACK*

122 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:43:25pm

re: #109 OldLineTexan

Well, yeah, cuz after a couple you ain't saying THAT very well...

Shortened to Buve.

123 Dasher  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:43:34pm

re: #112 MandyManners

Better talk to Todd.

I heard about these boots on Greta van Susteren about a week ago.. been thinking about them since :-)

124 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:43:35pm

re: #121 MandyManners

Well, that was special. Didn't take long for that to hit home.

125 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:43:42pm

Aw... I missed a good whacking....

126 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:44:00pm

re: #114 Killgore Trout

weed.


Pittsburgh Window Box..

127 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:44:18pm

re: #119 Killian Bundy

VIX at 70, load up on DIA and ride the waves, long or short, multiple times a day.

/easy money

Sure, nuthin' to it! I use the Maxwell's Demon trading package, how about you?

128 Wishing  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:44:22pm

re: #118 Wishing

The one iNTERESTING bit of the birth certificate story is that it does explain why we cant see his school or medical records, as they would divulge citizenship

129 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:44:28pm

re: #33 irongrampa

On an unrelated note, it was discovered yet again, today, that Labrador retrievers have NO concept of boating safety.

Would you like to elaborate about the Labrador Retrievers? : )

130 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:44:35pm

re: #125 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) how about a "thump!" on noodle

131 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:44:49pm

Ryes are made with Rye, (or mostly rye) and bourbons are made with corn, or mostly corn. Lighter body, more peppery and dry with rye. Sweeter, full body with corn. Bourbons rule the roost

I'm a wiki genius I tell ya

132 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:45:04pm

re: #120 godfrey

lol

Mandy, allow me to buy you a drink, please.

I get a bit defensive when people besmirch that august disteller.

133 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:45:05pm

re: #108 MandyManners

What the bloody fuck are you talking about?

[Link: www.smallbatch.com...]

I will not quibble with a lady and favored Lizard over such trivialities as the definition of a "rye" whiskey. Here's to your health (now if I just had a drink)!

134 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:45:39pm

re: #10 Outrider

Squeal like a pig!

Well, I think I’ll go and rent me a movie right now;
Go and get something I ain’t never seen.
And on the discount rack, I see Deliverance,
And I’m watchin’ it now and they’ve got to that scene
Where they meet the hillbillies and they’re big and they’re mean…
And who’s that crawlin’ ‘round on his knees?
It’s Ned Beatty! (Beatty!) Ned Bea-yay-yay!
Ned Beatty had the hardest part
‘Cause redneck love leaves emotional scars.
I guess he didn’t read the script too far;
Ned Beatty had the hardest part!

Well, I wonder what kind of parts Ned turned down –
Oh, I wonder how desperate he was.
‘Cause I’ve heard it’s pretty tough in Hollywood,
But I woouldn’t ever let them tie me to a tree;
Screamin’ and holdin’ up my BVDs;
Waitin’ for Burt to come and rescue me,
Sayin’ “Hey Burt!” (Hey Burt) Hey-yay-yay!
Ned Beatty had the hardest part.
If you got a purty mouth, you can be a big star.
I bet the next day, his agent got fired.
Ned Beatty had the hardest part!

Well, don’t let ‘em get you Ned – don’t let ‘em next to you!
Don’t let ‘em get you Ned – you know what he wants to do!
Think of your momma Ned – put you through drama school;
Is this what she had in mind? You think she’s proud of you?

Ned Beatty! (Beatty!) Ned Bea-yay-yay!
Ned Beatty had the hardest part!
He’s taken method acting just a bit too far,
‘Cause this ain’t exactly Shakespeare-in-the-Park.
Ned Beatty had the hardest part!

Ned Beatty had the ha-a-a-a-a-a-arde-e-e-e-est pa-a-a-a-art!

Who-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oa-oa!
…had the hardest part!
O-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oa-oa!
…had the hardest part…

135 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:45:46pm

re: #110 Jim in Virginia

Do you know Grungy?

I knew him, sure. Still there, as I understand it...even rode in the Bozo Bus once...

136 fish  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:46:03pm

OT (if there is one)

Fox News is running a documentary on the history of the finicial meltdown right now. IF anyone watches it they will see what the Lizard Nation has been saying all along. Good Stuff, names are being named.

137 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:46:04pm

re: #131 Thanos

Ryes are made with Rye, (or mostly rye) and bourbons are made with corn, or mostly corn. Lighter body, more peppery and dry with rye. Sweeter, full body with corn. Bourbons rule the roost

I'm a wiki genius I tell ya

Put down the book and pick up the Basil.

138 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:46:16pm

re: #130 willowone

how about a "thump!" on noodle

Not the same... I'm starting a MandyManners fan club.

Nobody whacks like she does!

139 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:47:20pm

re: #132 MandyManners

I've been defensive about rye ever since the pot-head who wrote "American Pie" made a false distinction between "whisky and rye," and I'll be defensive about it till the day that I die. On the levee. With the good old boys.

140 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:47:28pm

re: #117 willowone

the "that one " comment?

I've often pointed to one of my children when my husband asks what happened to his (fill in blank)

I always point to my child when my husband asks what happened to his (fill in the blank).

141 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:47:32pm

re: #45 joecitizen

booze..

.22 LR ammo

142 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:47:34pm

re: #129 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Would you like to elaborate about the Labrador Retrievers? : )

Between the Labrador Retrievers, Rye Whiskey, and licking boots; this thread is getting weird. ;-)>

143 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:47:51pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/Archangel Pelosi is already spending the money we don't already have

And yet these moronic libs, led by Obama and Pee-losi, tell us every chance they get that it was W who ruined Clinton's surpluses as far as the eye can see and turned them into deficits.

144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:47:54pm

Should I feel reduced?

Does this mean my diet worked?

145 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:48:10pm

re: #137 MandyManners

Put down the book and pick up the Basil.

As far as distilled spirits go only aged Bacardi darks and Cognac passes my lips. Right now it's Hennessey

146 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:48:22pm

Kudos to Stinky Beaumont


"First Edition of 'The Lao of Stinky!'"

/MP3

147 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:48:36pm

re: #132 MandyManners

I get a bit defensive when people besmirch that august disteller.

That was *not* a besmirching...

148 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:48:55pm

re: #127 itellu3times

Sure, nuthin' to it! I use the Maxwell's Demon trading package, how about you?

Fidelity. Hey, I pulled off three very sweet day trades yesterday, riding DIA up and down.

/just don't do more than four day trades a week or you'll be classified as a day trader and they'll slam your margin requirements by law

149 acapesket123  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:48:57pm

re: #83 irongrampa

Must be me, I have had 6 at various times in the last 30 years. They are adorable, they understand everything I say to them, but as doggie IQ's go.. mine have been clueless!
Doesn't mean I dont adore them!

150 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:49:10pm

re: #135 OldLineTexan
Shoot me an email ,we probably have a few mutual friends. I've been out of Houston since 1983, out of Texas since '87.

151 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:49:18pm

Off to push iron... night lizard nation... if the bed bugs bite, remember: They are Food!

152 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:49:24pm

re: #133 OldLineTexan

I will not quibble with a lady and favored Lizard over such trivialities as the definition of a "rye" whiskey. Here's to your health (now if I just had a drink)!

It is a boubon, distilled in Bourbon County, KY.

153 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:49:32pm

Rye is better in Manhattans. Bourbon and sweet vermouth is too sweet. Rye cuts the sweetness, gives you more to savor.

154 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:04pm

re: #139 godfrey

I've been defensive about rye ever since the pot-head who wrote "American Pie" made a false distinction between "whisky and rye," and I'll be defensive about it till the day that I die. On the levee. With the good old boys.

That was a long, long, time ago...Yeah, I can still remember...

155 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:07pm

re: #140 reine.de.tout

I always point to my child when my husband asks what happened to his (fill in the blank).

I always point to the dog when the wife says, alright, who (fill in the blank)?

156 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:15pm

re: #90 MandyManners

Basiil Hayden's, Baker's, Booker's and Knob Creek.

I just put a bottle of Knob Creek, Maker's Mark, and Buffalo Trace in the Preparedness Bunker... :)

157 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:16pm

re: #153 godfrey

Rye is better in Manhattans. Bourbon and sweet vermouth is too sweet. Rye cuts the sweetness, gives you more to savor.

One last...

Rye can only get by Cowboy Lips. :-)

158 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:22pm

re: #140 reine.de.tout

fortunately he knows HE must be the adult at that time. (rough as it is)

159 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:44pm

re: #139 godfrey

I've been defensive about rye ever since the pot-head who wrote "American Pie" made a false distinction between "whisky and rye," and I'll be defensive about it till the day that I die. On the levee. With the good old boys.


So it was you who wrote the book of love?

160 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:50:47pm

re: #152 MandyManners

It is a boubon, distilled in Bourbon County, KY.

Yes, of course.

161 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:51:13pm
162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:51:27pm

re: #136 fish

OT (if there is one)

Fox News is running a documentary on the history of the finicial meltdown right now. IF anyone watches it they will see what the Lizard Nation has been saying all along. Good Stuff, names are being named.

Was listening to it on Sirius. But it appears that only we are listening.

You should have heard my Father's (whom I adore beyond words) justification of the Ayers relationship today. The cool-aid was sweet and obviously tasty beyond words.

163 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:51:31pm

re: #155 Outrider

damn it! i need to borrow the dog!

164 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:05pm

re: #139 godfrey

I've been defensive about rye ever since the pot-head who wrote "American Pie" made a false distinction between "whisky and rye," and I'll be defensive about it till the day that I die. On the levee. With the good old boys.

Don't know the movie. But, I know the song.

165 LaMano  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:13pm

GREAT BUMPER STICKER.

Barack loves his country .................... like OJ loved his wife.

166 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:28pm

re: #150 Jim in Virginia

I get your blog...is your addy in there somewhere?

167 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:42pm

re: #145 Thanos

As far as distilled spirits go only aged Bacardi darks and Cognac passes my lips. Right now it's Hennessey

That's some pretty good hooch.

168 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:52pm

re: #159 Jim in Virginia

With the pink carnation in the pickup truck, yeah. I wrote it.

In big, bold print.

169 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:56pm

re: #144 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Should I feel reduced?

Does this mean my diet worked?

If there is less of your adorable self, it is a sad thing, IMO. :-)

170 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:06pm

re: #138 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
true, she has a cute Bat

171 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:15pm

re: #147 OldLineTexan

That was *not* a besmirching...

I'm juggling three plates here. brb

172 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:24pm

lol

173 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:45pm

Oh, this is awful. Video at the link:

Philly Leftists Boo Sarah Palin & Her 6 Year-Old Little Girl!

Booing Obama... Bad.
Booing 6 year-old little girl & daughter of Republican... Good!

All week we've heard about how angry and mean the Republicans are because of 4 or 5 hecklers at the McCain-Palin rallies.
The McCain-Palin campaign has even been compared to well known Democratic racists.

Tonight-- Leftists at the Philadelphia Flyer's game booed Sarah Palin, her daughter Willow, and her 6 year-old daughter Piper as they went on the ice to drop the first puck of the season:

Comeback.
Saturday, October 11, 2008
Talk About Angry Thugs... Philly Leftists Boo Sarah Palin & Her 6 Year-Old Little Girl!

Booing Obama... Bad.
Booing 6 year-old little girl & daughter of Republican... Good!

All week we've heard about how angry and mean the Republicans are because of 4 or 5 hecklers at the McCain-Palin rallies.
The McCain-Palin campaign has even been compared to well known Democratic racists.

Tonight-- Leftists at the Philadelphia Flyer's game booed Sarah Palin, her daughter Willow, and her 6 year-old daughter Piper as they went on the ice to drop the first puck of the season:

Governor Palin thought the big Democrat city would not boo a 6 year-old.
Apparently, she was wrong.

Surely, the liberal media who have been all over the entire "angry" GOP this week for bringing up Obama's close association with terrorist Bill Ayers will condemn these leftist thugs for attacking a 6 year-old little girl?

The New York Times is upset of course... With Sarah Palin.

174 wright1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:49pm

I was watching the clip of Maxine Watters being called out for taking contributions from Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac (off of Newsbusters) - what is more annoying is that for someone as snarky as Maher, you would think he would at least have the intellectual honesty to state the record as it was and is - Watters was a bag-man (lady) for Fannie/Freddie who is on video decrying the obvious, that the banks were mismanaged and needed oversight. Yet he sits by calling the Bush Admin. evil. Why the Left thinks this guy "gets it" is beyond me - I think he is a dope.

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:07pm

Ooh. Looks like there's an "upstairs". Charles is letting in new lizards. Yay!

176 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:54pm

re: #166 OldLineTexan

My nic here, no spaces, gmail.

177 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:55:48pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

Meh. The City of Brotherly Love is pretty notorious for booing EVERYBODY. I've heard it's actually not as bad as it could have been...

178 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:12pm

re: #29 Charles

IE6 is on the way out. It's time to move on. I know it's painful, but that browser's days are over. It's only going to get worse from here. Time to upgrade.

Down, and dropping, but not out yet.

Internet Browser Market Share, Top 5, Sept. 2008:

Microsoft IE 7.0  46.3%
Microsoft IE 6.0  24.7%
Firefox 3.0      13.3%
Firefox 2.0       5.8%
Safari 3.1       5.2%

/bitter and clinging to my obsolete browser.

179 yochanan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:16pm

HAD some makers mark last shabos not bad at all.
l'chiam

180 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:41pm

weed.re: #146 Karridine
Wow, I'm impressed. Very well done.

181 tubbyhubby  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:12pm

Marked difference in load and render. Nicely down. Thanks.

182 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:14pm

re: #173 reine.de.tout

She's lucky they didn't throw things, like they usually do.

183 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:46pm

Jim

But in the past two years, I seem to be writing in invisible ink. I write it, and it disappears.

184 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:19pm

Back in '63 a software company ran an ad something like this ...

If you can reduce 5000 lines of code to 4000 and still have it work - send us your resume. Reduce to 3000 - sends us a telegram. Reduce to 2500 - call collect.

Call collect anytime Charles ...

185 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:40pm

re: #156 Palandine

I just put a bottle of Knob Creek, Maker's Mark, and Buffalo Trace in the Preparedness Bunker... :)

Bring the family over to my cave!

186 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:18pm

re: #165 LaMano

Hope you have 9-1-1 on your cell-phone speed dial and the name of a good auto-paint shop.

187 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:35pm

Oh, new scaley ones.

188 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:27pm

re: #183 godfrey I'm not really sure how to answer that.....
I'm sorry?

189 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:15pm

godfrey, maybe you're running too fast.

190 Mauser  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:16pm

I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.17, and every once in a while, with a really long set of replies (1000 comments or so) I'll get an alert closing the tab that a script has stopped responding.

191 Zonie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:04pm

Let's hear it for tight code! It's almost a lost art these days with unlimited disk space and memory.

This page loaded very quickly in Chrome. Nice work!

192 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:28pm

re: #29 Charles

IE6 is on the way out. It's time to move on. I know it's painful, but that browser's days are over. It's only going to get worse from here. Time to upgrade.

Charles -

No kidding, the IE in my system for the times nothing but IE will do is IE8 Beta. I love my old VIC-20, as an antique, not an everyday 'pute.

-S-

193 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 7:50:31am

Maybe this is hard, but wouldn't it make more sense to break the comments into separate pages? One gigantic, impossibly long scroll that takes forever to load and is somewhere between difficult to impossible to navigate is only a little better than before, thanks to reduced baggage, but it's still incredibly painful.

Global searches of a comment thread using the browser's search function would suffer. It seems like a small price to pay.

The additional work on the server side of parceling out the pages would be more than balanced, I would think, by the greatly reduced amount of verbiage served.

194 SixDegrees  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 7:58:24am
Down, and dropping, but not out yet.

Internet Browser Market Share, Top 5, Sept. 2008:

Microsoft IE 7.0  46.3%
Microsoft IE 6.0  24.7%
Firefox 3.0      13.3%
Firefox 2.0       5.8%
Safari 3.1       5.2%

/bitter and clinging to my obsolete browser.

The problem with IE6 is it's almost complete lack of compliance with a whole host of standards that have been around for years, and that other browsers support fully or almost fully. Writing web pages becomes a nightmarish task of constructing a standards-compliant page, then bloating the code with workarounds for a vast number of IE6 and previous bugs caused by failure to follow the rules. It swells downloads, steals bandwidth and wastes vast amounts of time.

My web statistics indicate the IE6 is rapidly vanishing, and I've stopped wasting my time trying to support it's idiosyncrasies. It just isn't worth it anymore when anyone can download a browser that actually works for free, and have it up and running in minutes. This is now my standard advice to anyone who emails complaining about web pages not working: "Get Firefox."

195 whiteside  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 11:43:49am

re: #193 SixDegrees

Maybe this is hard, but wouldn't it make more sense to break the comments into separate pages?
The additional work on the server side of parceling out the pages would be more than balanced, I would think, by the greatly reduced amount of verbiage served.

I think that Charles is probably working on this, but in order to really work well, you want to use AJAX(y) stuff so that you don't need to reload the whole page.

It's not impossible, but it is a bit tricky.

196 Outlaw_Wizard  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 3:07:09pm

So Charles,

Have you considered licensing your blog engine to other bloggers?


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