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Registration is open, the troll early warning systems are enabled, and here’s your chance if you’ve been waiting to join the Lizardoid Army.

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UPDATE at 10/11/08 7:34:56 pm:

The door has closed, with 126 hatchlings.

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1 corova  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:51:15pm

good luck all

2 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:51:36pm

Oh Noes! More Lizard toes!

3 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:51:56pm

Welcome Newbies!

4 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:01pm

Ah, fresh gamey buttocks ...

5 MellyMel  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:09pm

And thus it begins...

6 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:52:54pm

Yeah! I finally made a sock puppet.

/always wanted one to call my own.

7 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:02pm

I offer the new lizards a laurel and hardy handshake.

8 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:37pm

Wanna-be Trolls take note- We're watching you!

9 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:51pm

re: #6 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yeah! I finally made a sock puppet.

/always wanted one to call my own.

You're NOT supposed to tell us!

10 Macker  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:54pm

God, I need a drink.

11 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:55pm

The Door Opens

I may be DAFT,, but I feel a DRAFT

12 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:53:58pm

the pitter-patter of little feet as the hatchlings crawl out

13 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:05pm

I don't know if anyone has posted this, but the national association of gals has a poll over at PBS on Sarah Palin. please Please PLEASE take the three seconds it requires to vote in this poll.

14 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:26pm

Step up and introduce yourselves!

15 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:26pm

Welcome new lizards.

16 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:35pm

re: #10 Macker

God, I need a drink.

Straight up, or on da rox?

17 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:51pm

re: #8 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wanna-be Trolls take note- We're watching you!

who's this "we're" you're talking about. By my calculations, YOU'Re still on probation!

18 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:54:57pm

Newbies, have some pie. Obama likes it!

19 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:55:24pm

Welcome new lizards, registration music

20 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:55:50pm

re: #18 arethusa

Newbies, have some pie. Obama likes it!

your pie has nipples !

21 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:55:57pm

all newbies -- welcome, and hopefully your serving mad serving skillz are up to par ...

I'll have mine neat, thankewevermuch.

22 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:55:59pm

re: #13 JeremyR

I don't know if anyone has posted this, but the national association of gals has a poll over at PBS on Sarah Palin. please Please PLEASE take the three seconds it requires to vote in this poll.

That thing's been tied at 49 for a month or so now. And it's letting in multiple votes...I voted twice from this IP address.

23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:13pm

re: #13 JeremyR

I don't know if anyone has posted this, but the national association of gals has a poll over at PBS on Sarah Palin. please Please PLEASE take the three seconds it requires to vote in this poll.

That's pretty funny. Jeremy! A poll by the NAGS on PBS.com, it's tied at 49%! PUMAS, maybe?

24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:13pm

Ya know, I really like it when Charles opens the doors. For every little pos that comes in to make Mandy drop her dishes, there is a new wonderful friend in the neighborhood.

Welcome good ones!

25 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:28pm

re: #20 sattv4u2

your pie has nipples !

Pie porn!

26 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:30pm

re: #17 sattv4u2

who's this "we're" you're talking about. By my calculations, YOU'Re still on probation!

I'm still waiting to get off probation...

27 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:52pm

re: #26 jcm

I'm still waiting to get off probation...

YOU are on Double Secret Probation!

28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:56:58pm

re: #17 sattv4u2

who's this "we're" you're talking about. By my calculations, YOU'Re still on probation!

You didn't hear? The judge cleared me!

29 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:02pm

re: #19 Thanos
heck i thought it would sound more like this

30 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:14pm

re: #20 sattv4u2

your pie has nipples !

All your pies are belong to us!

DRINK!

/This is the SNDT. Right?

31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:16pm

re: #17 sattv4u2

who's this "we're" you're talking about. By my calculations, YOU'Re still on probation!

Sounds like you just said, "What do you mean; 'you people'?"

heh...

32 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:34pm

re: #13 JeremyR

Voted "Yes! Palin IS qualified to serve Americans as president."

/tanks for the hedzup, Jeremy!

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:42pm

re: #27 sattv4u2

Toilets salute you!

34 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:43pm

re: #28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You didn't hear? The judge cleared me!

we don't allow legislation from the bench here

35 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:57:48pm

re: #17 sattv4u2

who's this "we're" you're talking about. By my calculations, YOU'Re still on probation!

And i have a mouse in my pocket.

36 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:01pm

re: #28 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You didn't hear? The judge cleared me!

We all know how the works in the Ozarks... you're related to the judge!

/ ;-P

37 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:10pm

re: #31 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds like you just said, "What do you mean; 'you people'?"

heh...

hhehehehehe

38 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:11pm

I hope we get some PUMA Lizards!

39 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:16pm

re: #20 sattv4u2

your pie has nipples !

/made me look! : )

40 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:18pm

re: #11 sattv4u2

The Door Opens

I may be DAFT,, but I feel a DRAFT

I felt one in 1967, and 2 years later and a tour in Vietnam...:)

41 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:51pm

re: #36 jcm

We all know how the works in the Ozarks... you're related to the judge!

/ ;-P

even if they get divorced!

42 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:58:57pm

re: #26 jcm

I'm still waiting to get off probation...

After 27K+ posts, I'd say you're not on probation. But what do I know?

43 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:04pm

re: #38 Sharmuta
me too, and i hope everyone is on their bestest thingy

44 oh_dude  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:05pm
oh_dude
Registered since: Oct 9, 2004 at 12:54 pm

Membership has it's privileges. Not really sure what they are though...

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:12pm

Last night at a Karaoke bar I sang three "Talking Heads" songs.

Now, ask me if I am still hung over. And I will reply..."Uh. Yep."

46 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:19pm

re: #22 arethusa

I think it may be jinked where it will not allow the Yes vote to move ahead. I figure if we all hit it tonight, we can sure as heck find out.

47 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:32pm

re: #41 sattv4u2

even if they get divorced!

They'd still be cousins.

48 majic1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:34pm

Yaaa, not a noob any longer! OK lizarardletts, I'll have the single barrel bourbon, and a light for my Macanudo...

49 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:42pm

re: #40 Dustyvet

I felt one in 1967, and 2 years later and a tour in Vietnam...:)

God Bless ,,, I missed out ,, my number was 196. They only called up to 157 that year

50 simonml  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 6:59:57pm

I tried to join again, but I'm already registered. The voice in my "inner mind" wanted to join.

Welcome newbies!

51 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:16pm

re: #44 oh_dude

Membership has it's privileges. Not really sure what they are though...

you just used it!

52 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:21pm

re: #34 sattv4u2

we don't allow legislation from the bench here

LOL! I'll only be on probation if Mandy can be my PO.

53 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:43pm

re: #34 sattv4u2

we don't allow legislation from the bench here

Here come de judge, here come de judge...order in the courtroom...I is the Judge

Sammy Davis Jr.

54 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:48pm

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last night at a Karaoke bar I sang three "Talking Heads" songs.

Now, ask me if I am still hung over. And I will reply..."Uh. Yep."

Same as it ever was, eh?

55 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:51pm

re: #43 willowone

me too, and i hope everyone is on their bestest thingy

Bestest... behavior? Towards the PUMAs? I would certainly hope so.

56 wright1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:57pm

Welcome all those who are prepared to fight for your country and against Socialism, Wahabbism & Marxism!

57 LaMano  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:00:57pm

No libtards allowed.

58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:09pm

re: #54 Gang of One

Same as it ever was, eh?

That was one.

59 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:12pm

re: #52 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL! I'll only be on probation if Mandy can be my PO.

That would be very, very painful.

60 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:15pm

re: #24 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mandy don't drop em, she chucks em. The mortal remains of a saucer are imbedded in the east side of my foundation. As near as I can tell, the coffee cup took out the neighbors satTV. He is a mile west.

61 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:17pm

re: #53 Dustyvet

Here come de judge, here come de judge...order in the courtroom...I is the Judge

Sammy Davis Jr.

RACIST

62 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:17pm

Reposted from the previous thread: "First Edition of 'The Lao of Stinky!'"

Kudos to Karridine

63 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:21pm

re: #42 Gang of One

As far as I'm concerned, we're ALWAYS on probation... here, or anywhere else.

The alternative is 'Yeah, I crapped in the punchbowl but look! I've been harmless for more than a thousand posts..."

/if we disregard House Rules, then House RULES!

64 jonathan1984  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:28pm

re: #13 JeremyR

Done.

65 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:31pm

re: #55 Sharmuta
nipple and c word chat not such a good idea if so

66 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:35pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Burning Down the House?

67 LaMano  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:45pm

BUMPER STICKER

Barack loves his country ... like OJ loved his wife.

68 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:47pm

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last night at a Karaoke bar I sang three "Talking Heads" songs.

Now, ask me if I am still hung over. And I will reply..."Uh. Yep."

How did I get here?

LOL.

69 kynna  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:01:56pm

Welcome, lizardlings! :)

70 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:05pm

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That was one.

How did I know that?

71 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:12pm

re: #65 willowone

Not all PUMAs are women.

72 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:14pm
73 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:18pm

re: #49 sattv4u2

God Bless ,,, I missed out ,, my number was 196. They only called up to 157 that year

I got nailed in February 67, before they started the numbers thing.

74 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:35pm

re: #65 willowone

nipple and c word chat not such a good idea if so

whatcha mean, no boob threads?

75 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:50pm

re: #71 Sharmuta

very true.

76 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:02:55pm

re: #63 Karridine

As far as I'm concerned, we're ALWAYS on probation... here, or anywhere else.

The alternative is 'Yeah, I crapped in the punchbowl but look! I've been harmless for more than a thousand posts..."

/if we disregard House Rules, then House RULES!

Very true, we've had some high time posters go 'round the bend.

77 kynna  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:01pm

re: #53 Dustyvet

Here come de judge, here come de judge...order in the courtroom...I is the Judge

Sammy Davis Jr.

Wasn't that Flip Wilson?

78 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:04pm

re: #63 Karridine

As far as I'm concerned, we're ALWAYS on probation... here, or anywhere else.

The alternative is 'Yeah, I crapped in the punchbowl but look! I've been harmless for more than a thousand posts..."

/if we disregard House Rules, then House RULES!


True dat, bro.

79 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:16pm

re: #69 kynna

Welcome, lizardlings! :)

Ten little lizardings jumping on the bed...:)

80 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:20pm

re: #74 reine.de.tout

ok fine! but only if i get to pull out my handy centimeter tape for the guys

81 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:35pm

re: #72 ploome hineni

waitaminnit

did I get in?

am I in?

I am in...woot

yeeehawww

awWriiiIiightT.

beEn waitiNg for you to get iN.

82 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:39pm

re: #36 jcm

We all know how the works in the Ozarks... you're related to the judge!

/ ;-P

Hey, I live here, I'm not from here. Born in Chicago, moved to Phoenix when I was 10.

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:43pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

AWESOME! Thanks for re-posting KT!

84 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:50pm

re: #80 willowone

ok fine! but only if i get to pull out my handy centimeter tape for the guys

Heh.

85 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:03:53pm

re: #79 Dustyvet

Ten little lizardings jumping on the bed...:)

One falls off and bends his tail!

86 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:05pm

re: #66 Sharmuta

Nope!

87 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:05pm

Is it safe to come back in?

88 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:08pm

Please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like.

/General Jack D. Ripper

89 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:14pm

re: #80 willowone

ok fine! but only if i get to pull out my handy centimeter tape for the guys

Well, yeah! Of course! Who said otherwise?

90 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:18pm

re: #77 kynna

Wasn't that Flip Wilson?

Sammy Davis did it on Laugh-In

91 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:21pm

re: #81 reine.de.tout

awWriiiIiightT.

beEn waitiNg for you to get iN.

heck do i need to share my cc# for youze!

92 kahall  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:27pm

Is it the front or the back door that is open. If it is the front door it it will be just like last time and poo will be slung.

93 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:31pm

re: #80 willowone

ok fine! but only if i get to pull out my handy centimeter tape for the guys

Centimeters are fine...millimeters better, even. Just please don't use the odometer on the car.

/

94 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:43pm

re: #87 Noam Sayin'

Is it safe to come back in?

No- willowone has a tape measure.

95 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:04:50pm

re: #89 reine.de.tout
tee hee

96 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:16pm

To post here you must first answer this question:

Do you believe that time is a circle?

97 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:17pm

re: #93 OldLineTexan

laughing alright : p

98 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:24pm

A shy bunch of hatchlings tonight.

99 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:25pm

Philly phans may (or may not) have booed Sarah Palin and Piper. See JammieWearingFool.

If they did boo, this is also the city that booed Santa Claus, throws "D" batteries at opposing baseball outfielders, iceballs at football refs, and, I believe, a fetal pig in a jar once. She's in good company.

Disclaimer: I'm from there. (That's more of a disclaimer than the guy who wrote the Tasergate report offered.)

100 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:26pm

Jeez, we are so easily amused.

101 bcgirl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:28pm

welcome newbies,, time for beers,, brb

102 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:05:41pm

re: #73 Dustyvet

I got nailed in February 67, before they started the numbers thing.

I wasn't going to volunteer. If my number was lower and I got called, I would have gone without grumbiling, though (unlike some of my FORMER freinds). About a third of my "gang' "won" the lottery, and about a third of those ended up in Nam

103 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:01pm

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl elected - shall we?

104 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:04pm

re: #91 willowone

heck do i need to share my cc# for youze!

huh? I'm a l'il dense tonight. Daughter is off in the car, I'm anxious.

I was trying to type like Ploome.

105 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:08pm

re: #38 Sharmuta

I hope we get some PUMA Lizards!

Define please, I've been a registered dimm since 1980. What I'm wwaiting ofr is for the dems to pick a candidate I can trust.

106 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:26pm

re: #77 kynna

Wasn't that Flip Wilson?

Sammy Davis Jr was really Flip Wilson? The things ya learn here !

107 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:26pm

re: #88 Palandine

Please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like.

/General Jack D. Ripper

Major T. J. "King" Kong: Well, boys, I reckon this is it - nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies. Now look, boys, I ain't much of a hand at makin' speeches, but I got a pretty fair idea that something doggone important is goin' on back there. And I got a fair idea the kinda personal emotions that some of you fellas may be thinkin'. Heck, I reckon you wouldn't even be human bein's if you didn't have some pretty strong personal feelin's about nuclear combat. I want you to remember one thing, the folks back home is a-countin' on you and by golly, we ain't about to let 'em down. I tell you something else, if this thing turns out to be half as important as I figure it just might be, I'd say that you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this thing's over with. That goes for ever' last one of you regardless of your race, color or your creed. Now let's get this thing on the hump - we got some flyin' to do.

108 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:28pm

re: #45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Last night at a Karaoke bar I sang three "Talking Heads" songs.

Now, ask me if I am still hung over. And I will reply..."Uh. Yep."

Psycho Killer
Burning Down the House
And She Was

/close?
I love the Talking Heads. They're probablyappalled about that...

109 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:29pm

re: #94 Sharmuta

I'll use it sparingly, I'm a Compassionate conservative

110 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:46pm

re: #88 Palandine

Please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like.

/General Jack D. Ripper

God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:06:55pm

re: #103 Hapster

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl elected - shall we?

Hot dog. I was wondering when you'd finally register!

112 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:01pm

re: #103 Hapster

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl elected - shall we?

Great energy in that first post- I give you a +1.

113 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:01pm

re: #94 Sharmuta

No- willowone has a tape measure.

a centimeter measuring thingy.

114 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:13pm

re: #100 Gang of One

Jeez, we are so easily amused.

heh ,,, you should see me with a ball of yarn ,, or if my son shines the flashlight on the wall ,, then turns it off ,, then on,,, then off ,,,

115 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:16pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

that's alright it's been a heck of a long stressful week , here also.

116 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:37pm

re: #77 kynna

Wasn't that Flip Wilson?

Nope, Sammy Davis Jr, on R&M Laugh In. Originated by Dewey Markham .

117 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:41pm

Darn. I'm already registered. I got all exited there for a minute. It would have been the highlight of my day. /It has been a long week.

118 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:07:49pm

re: #94 Sharmuta

No- willowone has a tape measure.

That doesn't scare me.

I presume an inside joke from the previous thread?

119 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:02pm

re: #103 Hapster

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl elected - shall we?

HAPSTER - great first post.
You're in!
Congrats and welcome

120 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:06pm

re: #118 Noam Sayin'

That doesn't scare me.

I presume an inside joke from the previous thread?

No- it's from this thread.

121 jonathan1984  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:14pm

re: #99 arethusa

Rarely have I seen a city with a more ironic nickname. "City of Brotherly Love"?

122 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:14pm

re: #103 Hapster

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl elected - shall we?

Welcome to The Nest®. You do know how to tend bar, neh?

123 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:20pm

re: #44 oh_dude

Membership has it's privileges. Not really sure what they are though...

Fruitcup!

124 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:24pm
125 esch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:27pm

re: #103 Hapster

Woo hoo! We're no longer hapless.

/ba-dum-bum

126 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:47pm

re: #117 Cattt

Darn. I'm already registered. I got all exited there for a minute. It would have been the highlight of my day. /It has been a long week.

Checking Catt's bag of catnip...

127 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:57pm
128 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:08:58pm

re: #44 oh_dude

You need direct deposit to get the Rovian checks.

129 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:09:02pm

re: #118 Noam Sayin'

My comment came from nipples on pie chat.

130 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:09:13pm

re: #125 esch

Woo hoo! We're no longer hapless.

/ba-dum-bum

speak for yourself!

131 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:09:27pm

re: #118 Noam Sayin'

That doesn't scare me.

I presume an inside joke from the previous thread?

Gonna' refrain. In fact, I'll just sit on my hands. Maybe take a walk around the yard.

132 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:09:37pm

re: #121 jonathan1984

Rarely have I seen a city with a more ironic nickname. "City of Brotherly Love"?

I knew a kid from Philadelphia once who said the most dangerous place in the city was "Friendship Street".

Philly used to be a safe, cosmopolitan town... back in the 1770s.

133 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:09:41pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

heh ,,, you should see me with a ball of yarn ,, or if my son shines the flashlight on the wall ,, then turns it off ,, then on,,, then off ,,,

what about a laser pointer? I like doing that ...

134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:09:43pm

re: #108 Palandine

Psycho Killer
Burning Down the House
And She Was

/close?
I love the Talking Heads. They're probablyappalled about that...

They were...(keeping in mind that Karaoke leans towards cheesy)

Wild Wild Life
And She Was (actually, my favorite TH song)
Once in a Lifetime (same as it ever was) (even did the hand motions)

Yeah. Was pretty lit.

135 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:12pm

re: #131 MandyManners

Gonna' refrain. In fact, I'll just sit on my hands. Maybe take a walk around the yard.

how do you walk while sitting on your hands !?!?!?!

/ I'll say it now ,, OUCH!

136 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:16pm

re: #96 Pawn of the Oppressor

To post here you must first answer this question:

Do you believe that time is a circle?

Time is just a filty rag. If you see a circle, it means they are mooning you like Dumbodan tried.

137 locogalt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:18pm

whoop
no ritual sacrifice initiation?

138 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:34pm

re: #121 jonathan1984

Rarely have I seen a city with a more ironic nickname. "City of Brotherly Love"?

Ask Barney Frank to explain.

139 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:36pm

re: #127 ploome hineni

here is the (sore) boob thread

That's a link to LGF front page.
didja know that?

140 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:38pm

re: #121 jonathan1984

Rarely have I seen a city with a more ironic nickname. "City of Brotherly Love"?

"City that pelted Santa Claus with snowballs" was too long.

141 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:47pm

re: #67 LaMano

BUMPER STICKER

Barack loves his country ... like OJ loved his wife.

More updings.
And 0bama will get off, just like OJ.

142 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:10:56pm

re: #132 Pawn of the Oppressor

I knew a kid from Philadelphia once who said the most dangerous place in the city was "Friendship Street".

Philly used to be a safe, cosmopolitan town... back in the 1770s.

Well, if you've ever seen brothers fight, then maybe it makes more sense.

143 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:06pm

re: #137 locogalt

we'll sacrifice the limes, for the coronas

144 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:08pm

re: #103 Hapster

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl No. 1 elected - shall we?

*ahem*

WELCOME!

145 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:10pm

re: #96 Pawn of the Oppressor

To post here you must first answer this question:

Do you believe that time is a circle?

I see so few square or triangular clocks!

146 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:13pm

OK. Where are the sacrificial virgins?

147 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:36pm

re: #88 Palandine

Please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like.

/General Jack D. Ripper

So, Gen. Can you order Wing Operation Plan R on the Eye-ranians?

148 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:49pm

re: #146 Gang of One

OK. Where are the sacrificial virgins?

Don't look at me!

149 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:51pm

re: #141 Kosh's Shadow

More updings.
And 0bama will get off, just like OJ.

boob thread ,,, getting off ,,, naahhh ,,,too easy !

PASS

150 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:56pm

re: #103 Hapster

Hello fellow lizards ... let's get Mcdady and his girl elected - shall we?

Hero
Hottie
2008

151 oh_dude  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:11:59pm

re: #123 Tigger2005

HA HA! I was just telling my wife this morning that I had a great idea for a restaurant.

All we woud serve is elementary school cafeteria favorites (sloppy joes, tuna boat, turkey and gravy, etc.)

She gave me this look like...

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:15pm
153 ClosetConservative  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:18pm

I'm in at last!

Thanks, Charles!

154 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:18pm

re: #67 LaMano

Again, I hope you have 9-1-1 on speed-dial on your cell, and the name of a good auto-paint shop.

155 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:28pm

re: #146 Gang of One

wrong country?

156 Tigger2005  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:31pm

re: #141 Kosh's Shadow

More updings.
And 0bama will get off, just like OJ.

No, he won't. The jury's not stacked in his favor.

157 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:40pm

re: #102 sattv4u2

I wasn't going to volunteer. If my number was lower and I got called, I would have gone without grumbiling, though (unlike some of my FORMER freinds). About a third of my "gang' "won" the lottery, and about a third of those ended up in Nam

Below are some assembled facts most readers will find interesting. It isn't a long read, but it will...I guarantee...teach you some things you did not know about the Vietnam War and those who served, fought, or died there. Please share it with those with whom you communicate.

Vietnam War Facts: Facts, Statistics, Fake Warrior Numbers, and Myths Dispelled

9,087,000 military personnel served on active duty during the official Vietnam era from August 5, 1964 to May 7, 1975.
2,709,918 Americans served in uniform in Vietnam Vietnam Veterans represented 9.7% of their generation.
240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.
58,148 were killed in Vietnam
75,000 were severely disabled
23,214 were 100% disabled
5,283 lost limbs
1,081 sustained multiple amputations Of those killed, 61% were younger than 21
11,465 of those killed were younger than 20 years old Of those killed, 17,539 were married Average age of men killed: 23.1 years Five men killed in Vietnam were only 16 years old. The oldest man killed was 62 years old. As of January 15, 2 004, there are 1,875 Americans still unaccounted for from the Vietnam War
97% of Vietnam Veterans were honorably discharged
91% of Vietnam Veterans say they are glad they served
74% say they would serve again, even knowing the outcome Vietnam veterans have a lower unemployment rate than the same non-vet age groups. Vietnam veterans' personal income exceeds that of our non-veteran age group by more than 18 percent.
87% of Americans hold Vietnam Veterans in high esteem. There is no difference in drug usage between Vietnam Veterans and non-Vietnam Veterans of the same age group (Source: Veterans Administration Study) Vietnam Veterans are less likely to be in prison - only one-half of one percent of Vietnam Veterans have been jailed for crimes.
85% of Vietnam Veterans made successful transitions to civilian life. Interesting Census Stats and "Been There" Wanabees:
1,713,823 of those who served in Vietnam were still alive as of August,
1995 (census figures). ~ During that same Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country was: 9,492,958. ~ As of the current Census taken during August, 2000, the surviving U.S. Vietnam Veteran population estimate is: 1,002,511. This is hard to believe, losing nearly 711,000 between '95 and '00. That's 390 per day. During this Census count, the number of Americans falsely claiming to have served in-country is: 13,853,027. By this census, FOUR OUT OF FIVE WHO CLAIM TO BE Vietnam vets are not.

158 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:41pm

Lookit how we all just JUMP on a newbie registry thread. Can you say Feeding Frenzy?

159 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:52pm

re: #153 ClosetConservative

I'm in at last!

Thanks, Charles!

Welcome, Newbie. I gave you a ding for good manners.

160 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:12:52pm

re: #140 Mich-again

"City that pelted Santa Claus with snowballs" was too long.

We love OUR teams. Not yours!

161 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:01pm

Welcome out of the closet, Closet.

162 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:10pm

re: #146 Gang of One

OK. Where are the sacrificial virgins?

Does a nine-year celibate qualify?

163 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:24pm

re: #148 Sharmuta

Don't look at me!

Your avatar makes me think impure thoughts.

164 Dustyvet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:27pm

re: #110 jcm

God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all

General Jack D. Ripper: Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

165 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:33pm

Oh, noez.

166 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:35pm

re: #153 ClosetConservative

What makes you a Closet Conservative?

167 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:46pm

(affecting my best Blazing Saddles Cleavon Little accent)

Where da PUMA wimmen at?

168 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:49pm

re: #72 ploome hineni

waitaminnit
did I get in?
am I in?
I am in...woot
yeeehawww

My sentiments exactly...

169 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:53pm

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Thanks, Killgore! :D

170 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:53pm

re: #121 jonathan1984

Rarely have I seen a city with a more ironic nickname. "City of Brotherly Love"?

Well, it's not really so much a nickname as it is the literal translation of "Philadelphia" from the original Greek.

171 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:13:57pm

re: #112 Sharmuta

shokran ya gamil

172 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:00pm

re: #47 jcm

They'd still be cousins.

I went to your blog- great article on GW. But ~damn~ about time to update your blog ain't it? ;-)>

173 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:11pm
174 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:11pm

re: #145 sattv4u2

I see so few square or triangular clocks!

The correct answer is not an answer at all. It's me ordering trolls to kill themselves.

/obscure reference to a cheesy Canadian cult sci-fi TV show

175 Clemente  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:23pm

re: #6 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yeah! I finally made a sock puppet.

/always wanted one to call my own.

Sock puppets are over-rated, annoying, vulgar, and usually mentally inferior to the original.

I only keep mine around for comic relief, and of course so I can steal the occasional zionist check.

176 onag  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:28pm

the delousing wasn't as bad as i expected...it kinda tickled. drinks for all my friends!

177 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:37pm

re: #157 JeremyR

The Department of Defense Vietnam War Service Index officially provided by The War Library originally reported with errors that 2,709,918 U.S. military personnel as having served in-country. Corrections and confirmations to this errored index resulted in the addition of 358 U.S. military personnel confirmed to have served in Vietnam but not originally listed by the Department of Defense. (All names are currently on file and accessible 24/7/365).

Isolated atrocities committed by American Soldiers produced torrents of outrage from anti-war critics and the news media while Communist atrocities were so common that they received hardly any media mention at all. The United States sought to minimize and prevent attacks on civilians while North Vietnam made attacks on civilians a centerpiece of its strategy. Americans who deliberately killed civilians received prison sentences while Communists who did so received commendations. From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front assassinated 36,725 Vietnamese and abducted another 58,499. The death squads focused on leaders at the village level and on anyone who improved the lives of the peasants such as medical personnel, social workers, and school teachers. - Nixon Presidential Papers

Common Myths Dispelled:

Myth: Common Belief is that most Vietnam veterans were drafted. Fact: 2/3 of the men who served in Vietnam were volunteers. 2/3 of the men who served in World War II were drafted. Approximately 70% of those killed in Vietnam were volunteers.

Myth: The media have reported that suicides among Vietnam veterans range from 50,000 to 100,000 - 6 to 11 times the non-Vietnam veteran population. Fact: Mortality studies show that 9,000 is a better estimate. "The CDC Vietnam Experience Study Mortality Assessment showed that during the first 5 years after discharge, deaths from suicide were 1.7 times more likely among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam veterans. After that initial post-service period, Vietnam veterans were no more likely to die from suicide than non-Vietnam veterans. In fact, after the 5-year post-service period, the rate of suicides is less in the Vietnam veterans' group.

Myth: Common belief is that a disproportionate number of blacks were killed in the Vietnam War. Fact: 86% of the men who died in Vietnam were Caucasians, 12.5% were black, 1.2% were other races. Sociologists Charles C. Moskos and John Sibley Butler, in their recently published book "All That We Can Be," said they analyzed the claim that blacks were used like cannon fodder during Vietnam "and can report definitely that this charge is untrue. Black fatalities amounted to 12 percent of all Americans killed in Southeast Asia, a figure proportional to the number of blacks in the U.S. population at the time and slightly lower than the proportion of blacks in the Army at the close of the war."

Casualty File (CACF) as of November 1993. The CACF is the basis for the Vietnam Veterans Memorial
(The Wall): Average age of 58,148 killed in Vietnam was 23.11 years.
(Although 58,169 names are in the Nov. 93 database, only 58,148 have both event date and birth date. Event date is used instead of declared dead date for some of those who were listed as missing in action) Deaths Average Age Total: 58,148, 23.11 years Enlisted: 50,274, 22.37 years Officers: 6,598, 28.43 years Warrants: 1,276, 24.73 years E1 525, 20.34 years
11B MOS: 18,465, 22.55 years

Myth: The common belief is the average age of an infantryman fighting in Vietnam was 19. Fact:: Assuming KIAs accurately represented age groups serving in Vietnam, the average age of an infantryman (MOS 11B) serving in Vietnam to be 19 years old is a myth, it is actually 22. None of the enlisted grades have an average age of less than 20. The average man who fought in World War II was 26 years of age.

178 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:38pm

re: #146 Gang of One

OK. Where are the sacrificial virgins?

She was right there, in the pit!

179 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:45pm

re: #157 JeremyR

great facts. I know. When friends of mine come across someone who "says" they were there, my friends can tell within the 1st 2 minutes if they were or not. Uncanny!

180 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:46pm

re: #155 willowone

wrong country?

how should I respond to this question ...

DRINK!

181 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:14:56pm

Koskidz looking forward to the Obama years...
I am Looking Forward to This Depression

My parents both grew up in the last depression. My mother once told me that her favorite most vivid memory of that time was getting a fresh juicy orange as her major Christmas present. An orange!
...
Perhaps, we will return to doing simpler, healthier things in life. Maybe will we all become a bit less mesmerized with material goods and more interested in living a more disciplined simple life. For evidence I present mashed potatoes.

You go to the store and buy a sack of potatoes for a few bucks. You peel them, boil, drain and mash them. You add a little cream and seasoning, steam a vegetable and you have the start of an inexpensive, healthy, filling meal.

Potatoes and oranges for the masses!

182 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:06pm

re: #159 Sharmuta

Welcome, Newbie. I gave you a ding for good manners.

geeezz ,, you're easy !

183 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:19pm

re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They were...(keeping in mind that Karaoke leans towards cheesy)

Wild Wild Life
And She Was (actually, my favorite TH song)
Once in a Lifetime (same as it ever was) (even did the hand motions)

Yeah. Was pretty lit.

Heh. I once got drunk on my birthday and got my dad (mid-70s) up to sing Take It To The Limit by the Eagles. Then I sang Bob Marley's No Woman No Cry complete with Jamaican accent.

My voice is a little better than Yoko Ono's, but my God it was fun.

/This is not my beautful house
/There. Has. Got. To. Be. A. Way
/Gosh, I love the Talking Heads

184 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:29pm

re: #182 sattv4u2

geeezz ,, you're easy !

That's why I'm the Sharmuta.

185 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:44pm
186 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:44pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Does a nine-year celibate qualify?

NINE YEARS?!?

187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:45pm

Cool. Newbies are jumping right in. Welcome to our parlor.

188 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:46pm

re: #162 MandyManners

Does a nine-year celibate qualify?

DRINK!

/I don't know what else to say

189 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:52pm

re: #177 JeremyR

Myth: The Common belief is that the domino theory was proved false. Fact: The domino theory was accurate. The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) countries, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand stayed free of Communism because of the U.S. commitment to Vietnam. The Indonesians threw the Soviets out in 1966 because of America's commitment in Vietnam. Without that commitment, Communism would have swept all the way to the Malacca Straits that is south of Singapore and of great strategic importance to the free world. If you ask people who live in these countries that won the war in Vietnam, they have a different opinion from the American news media. The Vietnam War was the turning point for Communism.

Myth: The common belief is that the fighting in Vietnam was not as intense as in World War II. Fact: The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,148 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.7 million who served. Although the percent that died is similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300 percent higher than in World War II ...75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled. MEDEVAC helicopters flew nearly 500,000 missions. Over 900,000 patients were airlifted (nearly half were American). The average time lapse between wounding to hospitalization was less than one hour. As a result, less than one percent of all Americans wounded, who survived the first 24 hours, died. The helicopter provided unprecedented mobility. Without the helicopter it would have taken three times as many troops to secure the 800 mile border with Cambodia and Laos (the politicians thought the Geneva Conventions of 1954 and the Geneva Accords or 1962 would secure the border).

Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June 1972...shown a million times on American television...was burned by Americans bombing Trang Bang. Fact: No American had involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently living in the United States. Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut, who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village.
Recent reports in the news media that an American commander ordered the air strike that burned Kim Phuc are incorrect. There were no Americans involved in any capacity. "We (Americans) had nothing to do with controlling VNAF," according to Lieutenant General (Ret) James F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phuc's brothers were killed in this incident. They were Kim's cousins not her brothers.

Myth: The United States lost the war in Vietnam. Fact: The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. General Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a major military defeat for the VC and NVA.

190 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:15:57pm

re: #156 Tigger2005

No, he won't. The jury's not stacked in his favor.


If 0bama wins, the judges will be stacked.

191 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:00pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

Koskidz looking forward to the Obama years...
I am Looking Forward to This Depression

Potatoes and oranges for the masses!

They really are warped people.

192 Clemente's Other Synapse  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:02pm

re: #175 Clemente

Sock puppets are over-rated, annoying, vulgar, and usually mentally inferior to the original.

I only keep mine around for comic relief, and of course so I can steal the occasional zionist check.

And YOU can just shut the hell up, mister "original" Clemente!

193 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:16pm

re: #180 Gang of One
that's always a good decision.

194 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:19pm

re: #169 Karridine

Is that you reading? You have a good voice. Maybe you could pick up some voiceover work on the side.

195 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:22pm

re: #189 JeremyR

THE UNITED STATES DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIETNAM, THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID. Read on...

The fall of Saigon happened 30 April 1975, two years AFTER the American military left Vietnam. The last American troops departed in their entirety 29 March 1973.

How could we lose a war we had already stopped fighting? We fought to an agreed stalemate. The peace settlement was signed in Paris on 27 January 1973. It called for release of all U.S. prisoners, withdrawal of US. forces, limitation of both sides' forces inside South Vietnam and a commitment to peaceful reunification. The 140,000 evacuees in April 1975 during the fall of Saigon consisted almost entirely of civilians and Vietnamese military, NOT American military running for their lives. There were almost twice as many casualties in Southeast Asia (primarily Cambodia) the first two years after the fall of Saigon in 1975 then there were during the ten years the U.S. was involved in Vietnam. Thanks for the perceived loss and the countless assassinations and torture visited upon Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians goes mainly to the American media and their undying support-by-misrepresentation of the anti-War movement in the United States.

As with much of the Vietnam War, the news media misreported and misinterpreted the 1968 Tet Offensive. It was reported as an overwhelming success for the Communist forces and a decided defeat for the U.S. forces. Nothing could be further from the truth. Despite initial victories by the Communists forces, the Tet Offensive resulted in a major defeat of those forces. General Vo Nguyen Giap, the designer of the Tet Offensive, is considered by some as ranking with Wellington, Grant, Lee and MacArthur as a great commander. Still, militarily, the Tet Offensive was a total defeat of the Communist forces on all fronts. It resulted in the death of some 45,000 NVA troops and the complete, if not total destruction of the Viet Cong elements in South Vietnam. The Organization of the Viet Cong Units in the South never recovered. The Tet Offensive succeeded on only one front and that was the News front and the political arena. This was another example in the Vietnam War of an inaccuracy becoming the perceived truth.

196 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:30pm

re: #96 Pawn of the Oppressor

To post here you must first answer this question:

Do you believe that time is a circle?

Time is a series of straight line sequences. If it was circular, it would be repeated, yes? ;-)>

197 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:34pm

re: #172 Outrider

I went to your blog- great article on GW. But ~damn~ about time to update your blog ain't it? ;-)>

re: #47 jcm

Thats great ,, piss off an old timer your 1st night !

198 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:49pm

re: #144 MandyManners
good point..

199 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:50pm

re: #164 Dustyvet

General Jack D. Ripper: Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

Up until the 0bama campaign.

200 bp sf  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:51pm

Philadelphia Flyers 3, New York Rangers 4.

Bwahahaha.

201 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:58pm

re: #191 Sharmuta

i despise the left, totally.

202 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:16:59pm

How many hatchlings are there?

And how come every time we have an open registration, McCain goes down in the polls?

203 Clemente  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:00pm

re: #192 Clemente's Other Synapse

And YOU can just shut the hell up, mister "original" Clemente!

See what I'm sayin'?

204 esch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:00pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

Jaw. Floor. Forehead smacking.

/Nuff said

205 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:00pm
206 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:02pm

re: #148 Sharmuta

Don't look at me!

Which part?

207 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:03pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

Koskidz looking forward to the Obama years...
I am Looking Forward to This Depression


Potatoes and oranges for the masses!

These people are f-cking sick. They really hate themselves more than they could ever hate us. Absolutely beyond parody - not just stupid, but Nuclear Stupid.

Malnutrition? Starvation? Stunted growth? Rampant crime? Mile-long unemployment lines? Well shit, at least we're living granola!

208 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:05pm

re: #153 ClosetConservative

I'm in at last!

Thanks, Charles!

A Moby fan?!

Welcome

209 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:14pm

Nicaragua's Ortega says crisis is God punishing U.S.

MANAGUA (Reuters) - Nicaragua's leftist President Daniel Ortega, a U.S. foe since the Cold War, said God was punishing the United States with the financial crisis for trying to impose its economic principles on poor countries.

"It's incredible that in the most powerful country in the world, which spends billions of dollars on brutal wars ... people do not have enough money to stay in their homes," former Marxist guerrilla Ortega said in a speech late on Thursday.

"God is punishing the United States," for imposing flawed economic policies on developing countries around the world, said Ortega, who first governed Nicaragua in the 1980s when his Sandinista government was locked in a war with U.S.-backed Contra rebels


Don't worry Danny boy, those who signed that "Dear Commendante" letter are trying there best to drag us down to your level.

210 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:17:23pm

re: #178 Pawn of the Oppressor

She was right there, in the pit!

BBQ?

211 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:18:04pm

Everyone knows time is a three dimensional sine wave.

/drink

212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:18:11pm

re: #201 willowone

i despise the left, totally.

You obviously are intolerant. I will not tolerate such an attitude.

/

213 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:18:29pm

re: #164 Dustyvet

General Jack D. Ripper: Fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face.

214 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:18:52pm

re: #207 Pawn of the Oppressor

I mash my own potatoes and oranges are a treat because I avoid refined sugar. I'm poor. Only rich people think poverty is glamorous.

215 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:12pm

re: #212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"sniff" ok snort : P

216 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:15pm

re: #179 sattv4u2

great facts. I know. When friends of mine come across someone who "says" they were there, my friends can tell within the 1st 2 minutes if they were or not. Uncanny!

It can be fun to listen to wannabees spin their BS. Iraq is generating quite a few arround here.

217 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:15pm

re: #206 PSGInfinity

Which part?

This one.

218 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:17pm

re: #207 Pawn of the Oppressor

These people are f-cking sick. They really hate themselves more than they could ever hate us. Absolutely beyond parody - not just stupid, but Nuclear Stupid.

Malnutrition? Starvation? Stunted growth? Rampant crime? Mile-long unemployment lines? Well shit, at least we're living granola!

They're trying to create the conditions that would create a permanent Democratic majority. A depression might help. A wide-open illegal immigrant amnesty with citizenship granted might mean Democratic rule for a generation.

219 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:18pm

re: #201 willowone

i despise the left, totally.

It must suck being one of your
HANDS
FEET
EYES
LEGS
EARS

220 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:19pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

I like potatoes, and I mash a mean pot, but basement boy needs to understand that meal he's proposed is 100% starch.

He is gonna NEED that national health care, unless he works like a terrier*

*Irish, not dog

221 Jim in Virginia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:20pm

re: #158 Gang of One

Lookit how we all just JUMP on a newbie registry thread. Can you say Feeding Frenzy?


We're all hungry for fresh gamey troll buttocks.

222 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:39pm

re: #124 MandyManners

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I felt compelled to sing all the way through that. I always do.

223 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:48pm

re: #216 JeremyR

It can be fun to listen to wannabees spin their BS. Iraq is generating quite a few arround here.

I've noticed

224 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:49pm

re: #205 ploome hineni

it'sthe newthread

always happens with any new thread

It is refreshing, yes?

225 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:19:56pm

re: #211 Mich-again

That's for dimensions to you, mister; X, Y, Z and time.

226 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:06pm

re: #157 JeremyR

240 men were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War The first man to die in Vietnam was James Davis, in 1958. He was with the 509th Radio Research Station. Davis Station in Saigon was named for him.

All right! ASA!

227 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:08pm

re: #186 joecitizen

NINE YEARS?!?

That's when I booted the X to the curb.

228 majic1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:11pm

re: #107 Dustyvet

Major T. J. "King" Kong: Well, boys, I reckon this is it - nuclear combat toe to toe with the Roosskies. Now look, boys, I ain't much of a hand at makin' speeches, but I got a pretty fair idea that something doggone important is goin' on back there. And I got a fair idea the kinda personal emotions that some of you fellas may be thinkin'. Heck, I reckon you wouldn't even be human bein's if you didn't have some pretty strong personal feelin's about nuclear combat. I want you to remember one thing, the folks back home is a-countin' on you and by golly, we ain't about to let 'em down. I tell you something else, if this thing turns out to be half as important as I figure it just might be, I'd say that you're all in line for some important promotions and personal citations when this thing's over with. That goes for ever' last one of you regardless of your race, color or your creed. Now let's get this thing on the hump - we got some flyin' to do.

"Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one .45 caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing: antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair a nylon stockings. Shoot, a fellah could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff."

You started it!

229 kynna  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:13pm

re: #90 Dustyvet

Sammy Davis did it on Laugh-In

Aaaah. Right. I never watched Laugh-In when I was a kid but we did always watch Flip Wilson. I wonder if SD JR did it in a sketch on that show at some point.

Of course, Flip Wilson did do 'The devil made me do it!', didn't he?

230 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:29pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

unfair! i can't think that far ahead with a glass of wine !

231 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:34pm

re: #188 Gang of One

DRINK!

/I don't know what else to say

Cheers!

232 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:39pm

Welcome new lizards, place nice! :)

233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:40pm

Let's get the first argument started. Ready?

I recently bought a new computer, and I like MS Vista.

Let's the games begin.

234 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:48pm

re: #197 sattv4u2

re: #47 jcm

Thats great ,, piss off an old timer your 1st night !

Who's first night?

235 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:20:50pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

Koskidz looking forward to the Obama years...
I am Looking Forward to This Depression

Potatoes and oranges for the masses!

Heh. Wonder if the Kos Kiddie realizes he can do that NOW, without the crippling 25% unemployment?

And yet, I spent my day picking up another .22 rifle, and saving seeds from my heirloom, oranically grown garden--amaranth, malabar spinach, black cherry tomatoes, and cucumbers.

Do the lefties REALLY think they're going to deal with economic difficulty better than the right?

/a country girl can survive

236 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:01pm
237 SiddFinch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:23pm

re: #1 corova

a new hatchling emerges!


bwaaa haa haaa!

238 yochanan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:29pm

remember hatchlings YOU GOT TO BUY THE BEER

Chimay ale here please

239 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:32pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

i own a H/P much better than a Mac,,, sneers,,

running

240 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:47pm

re: #221 Jim in Virginia

We're all hungry for fresh gamey troll buttocks.


Pass the ketchup, will 'ya?

241 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:56pm

re: #234 Outrider

Who's first night?

no ,, who's on second

242 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:21:59pm

re: #219 sattv4u2

It must suck being one of your
HANDS
FEET
EYES
LEGS
EARS

LUNGS.
OVARIES.
RIBS.

243 locogalt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:05pm

re: #143 willowone

lime +salt+ tequila even better

244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:11pm

re: #237 SiddFinch

Hey Sid!

245 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:13pm

re: #235 Palandine
Wow, another malabar spinach fan! That stuff is great. I grow it as a house plant year round. It's probably my most important food crop.

246 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:16pm

re: #191 Sharmuta

They really are warped people.

Although my grandmother (pre-Depression childhood) did actually save the orange peel from her Christmas gift (that and nuts and hard candy) so that my great-grandmother could candy them as an additional treat.

Ya know, if you want to get back to basics and live poor, you can do it without forcing the rest of the country along. I hear Cuba is nice after the winds quit blowing.

247 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:22pm

re: #240 PSGInfinity
and salt shaker

248 ClosetConservative  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:24pm

Sharmuta:

It's mostly just living in Boston. Those nasty gun-lovin' sister-marryin bitter clingers aren't seen well in this town, so it's best to not talk politics if you lean to the right.

249 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:29pm

re: #242 MandyManners

LUNGS.
OVARIES.
RIBS.

no thanks. I already ate

250 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:30pm

re: #228 majic1

"Survival kit contents check. In them you'll find: one .45 caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing: antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair a nylon stockings. Shoot, a fellah could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff."

You started it!

They changed it to Vegas. It was originally Dallas, but that was too close to the Kennedy assassination for comfort.

251 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:32pm

re: #202 arethusa

How many hatchlings are there?

And how come every time we have an open registration, McCain goes down in the polls?

Ah October. A time when we can feel relevant. Everyone is listening to us. The walk arround going "The poles say this, the poles say that."
But then comes 5 November, and it gets ugly as they all proclaim "The Poles were WRONG"!

252 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:51pm

I peel and mash potatoes pretty often actually. I have peeled thousands and thousands of potatoes in my years. Even peeled off flaps of thumb knuckle skin off a couple times when I was being careless with the peeler and you don't want to ever do that.

253 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:22:52pm

re: #172 Outrider

I went to your blog- great article on GW. But ~damn~ about time to update your blog ain't it? ;-)>

No kidding, don't have much time. I should just take it down.

254 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:08pm

re: #243 locogalt

o sure, if i want to glare at carpet fibers in 5 minutes

255 ThoughtProcess  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:10pm

I'm born! Who's going to cut my umbillical cord?

256 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:18pm

re: #253 jcm

No kidding, don't have much time. I should just take it down.

257 dmandman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:20pm

Odd topic...but does the Presidential cabinet stay in office past inauguration day. I recall there being an interval while the cabinet is confirmed, so who runs things in between? Which is a poser because suppose the pres elect, vice pres elect and speaker of the house are unavailable between Dec 20 (the electoral college meets then and takes the issue from congress if there is a successful vote) and the Swearing in of the new Congress?

258 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:27pm

re: #222 Cattt

I felt compelled to sing all the way through that. I always do.

I feel the same way about

I grew up with this shit hanging over my head. BHO will ensure that The Kid will, too.

259 esch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:29pm

re: #221 Jim in Virginia

We're all hungry for fresh gamey troll buttocks.

I thought we weren't going to talk about Barney Frank

260 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:34pm

re: #227 MandyManners

That's when I booted the X to the curb.


i gotta big ol' handsome hunk of a little brother I'd love for ya to meet..but you prolly get that alot...

261 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:38pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

I'm born! Who's going to cut my umbillical cord?

THIS IS S SELF SERVICE HOSPITAL

262 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:39pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


I recently bought a new computer, and I like MS Vista.

Let's the games begin.

I quote Obama's Teleprompter: "Vista? Vista??"

263 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:49pm

re: #217 Sharmuta

This one.

Whats wrong with that part? looks A-OK from where I sit.

264 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:23:59pm

re: #241 sattv4u2

no ,, who's on second

I don't know

265 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:24:06pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

I'm born! Who's going to cut my umbillical cord?

Don't bother. You're hatched! hee hee.

Welcome.

266 locogalt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:24:15pm

My HP will crush any Mac when i throw it out the window

267 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:24:15pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

I wish I wrote that. Someone here must have written that.

268 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:24:35pm

re: #237 SiddFinch

a new hatchling emerges!


bwaaa haa haaa!

Welcome!

269 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:24:37pm

re: #243 locogalt

lime +salt+ tequila even better

Training wheels?

270 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:24:37pm

re: #248 ClosetConservative

I can understand that. I was just curious, so thanks for humoring me.

271 bcgirl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:04pm

it is gonna be a good night,, my Boa Constrictor (colombian red tail about 8 feet-is drinking with us(water for snake- beer for me) serioulsy, if you are a keeper of exotic pets you might agree, when you get to actually SEE a snake or a tortoise drink water it is one of the coolest things! welcome new lizards

272 Davida  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:06pm

re: #13 JeremyR

Went.
Voted.
Smiled a smug smile.

;-)

273 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:25pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

HuH? you've been hatched, there aint no cord.
Yecch.

274 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:25pm

And now it'll be time to educate a whole nother batch of noob literalist creationists about evolution...with the same refutations to the same arguments we've seen umpteen times before...

And time to see which ones can't take logic and evidence, and go ballistically postal and flame out in the thread-o-sphere...

And of course we might also snag the odd eurofascist (aren't they all odd?)...and the occasional Serbian genocide apologist...

Fun times ahead. I can already smell their gamy young buttocks skewered like rotisserie chickens and roasting on the threads.

275 ClosetConservative  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:26pm

OK, OK, I can't resist:

"I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everybody on Bear Creek!"

276 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:44pm

re: #229 kynna

Aaaah. Right. I never watched Laugh-In when I was a kid but we did always watch Flip Wilson. I wonder if SD JR did it in a sketch on that show at some point.

Of course, Flip Wilson did do 'The devil made me do it!', didn't he?

Geraldine.

277 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:47pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let's get the first argument [pity party] started. Ready?
I recently bought a new computer, and I like MS Vista.
Let's the games [sympathy] begin.

Macs rule!

278 SiddFinch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:48pm

re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

hey FBV. thanks for welcoming me aboard.

279 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:48pm

re: #257 dmandman

Think the President has the authority to name "acting" secretaries, who are the ones going through hearings, too?

280 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:52pm

re: #235 Palandine

Ooh, and he's no kiddie, either.

My dad, who is my older parent, was born in 31--77 years old. He barely remembers the Depression.

Kiddie's parent would be in their 80s, which makes him 50 or 60-something.

Middle-aged hippie, hopsing for a return to a perceived utopian past.

/how. very. sad.

281 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:52pm

re: #264 Kosh's Shadow

Who's on second?


I don't know

Third base!
(I answered myself)

282 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:25:59pm

re: #259 esch

I thought we weren't going to talk about Barney Frank

I've lost my appetite fight amongst yourselves

283 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:02pm

re: #257 dmandman

After the election, the "new" Pres starts assembiling his cab. As he chosses each, they go "work" with the sitting cab member so the transition is complete by inauguration day. Thats the last day the "old" cab member is "THE" secretary, although he/she may stay around longer to help the transitiin IF the new one wants him/her too

284 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:08pm

re: #253 jcm

No kidding, don't have much time. I should just take it down.

nah. Leave it up. You got some amusing commenters on there.

285 Gus 802  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:16pm

At long last I am here!

Thank you Mr. Johnson. I've been waiting to register here for almost a year and happened by this evening and finally saw that registration was open. Been a reader of LFG for almost 3 years now.

Greetings from Denver.

Gus

286 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:18pm

Have I missed the feeding frenzy?

287 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:23pm

re: #266 locogalt

My HP will crush any Mac when i throw it out the window

Boy, your HP must really suck then, if you want to throw it out the window..

Bwahahahahahaha

*disclaimer: I'm a mac user*

288 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:26pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

I'm born! Who's going to cut my umbillical cord?

*SNIP*. There. Now, get me a drink, yes?

289 CrackrJak  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:26pm

Hi everyone, Been waiting quite awhile to register.

Got lucky tonight.

290 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:30pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

sheesh chew through it yourself.. silly

291 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:51pm

re: #239 willowone

i own a H/P much better than a Mac,,, sneers,,

running


pssst...many HP and Apple products are made at the same plant in China...I have been there...

292 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:26:55pm

re: #269 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Training wheels?

we are NOT going there again, are we?

293 ClosetConservative  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:02pm

re: #270 Sharmuta

Humor is going to be a great necessity in the next four years if the polls don't change soon.

294 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:10pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

More scintillant economic thought from that Kos link:
"The upside of everything being more expensive is that it makes alternative energy sources more affordable and cost effective."

shaking head

295 little doxie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:17pm

Thank you Charles for the opportunity to register, I've been a
reader/lurker and certainly appreciate all the great information, especially
now.

I'm not sure what I can contribute but I've been a fan for the past 1 1/2
years and have learned a lot.

296 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:17pm

re: #285 Gus 802

Hey Gus. Welcome aboard.

297 Lunatrope  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:35pm

And I'm in! Been reading for several months now, and wanted to say hi to all you fine people.

298 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:35pm

re: #245 Killgore Trout

Wow, another malabar spinach fan! That stuff is great. I grow it as a house plant year round. It's probably my most important food crop.

It's like the Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors. No bugs, grows like a weed, no disease. I'm going to follow your lead and grow some in a south-facing window this winter.

299 Digitalrealtor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:40pm

Digitalrealtor hatchling here. Just saw a very compelling youtube video. It is about a lawsuit filed by a PA democrat lawyer. He is challenging Obamas birth certificate and whether or not he is a naturalized or natural born citizen. This video must be shared. Please watch and send to your contacts.

300 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:44pm

re: #286 Syrah

Have I missed the feeding frenzy?

No- so far all Newbies seem nice.

301 TXNavy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:52pm

I'm green, I'm green...I'm finally green!

302 DoubleU  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:52pm

I made it! Wooot!

303 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:27:58pm

re: #286 Syrah

I'm sufficiently filled

304 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:00pm

re: #195 JeremyR


THE UNITED STATES DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIETNAM, THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID.


Technically correct but the choice to stop funding and supplying the south Vietnamese by the US did seal that fate.

More correct THE UNITED STATES MILITARY DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIETNAM, THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID

305 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:01pm

re: #291 OldLineTexan


pssst...many HP and Apple products are made at the same plant in China...I have been there...

So the HP machines are as unreliable?
Pissing off both sets of people. And I own HP stock (used to be Digital stock) and a MacBook Pro.

306 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:28pm

re: #260 joecitizen

i gotta big ol' handsome hunk of a little brother I'd love for ya to meet..but you prolly get that alot...

Nah. People know I'm content being a curmudgeon.

307 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:28pm

re: #293 ClosetConservative

Humor is going to be a great necessity in the next four years if the polls don't change soon.

We can tell each other jokes in the re-education camps.

308 SiddFinch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:32pm

re: #268 Gang of One

thanks gang of 1. happy to be here.

309 ThoughtProcess  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:34pm

re: #274 Salamantis

And now it'll be time to educate a whole nother batch of noob literalist creationists about evolution...with the same refutations to the same arguments we've seen umpteen times before...

And time to see which ones can't take logic and evidence, and go ballistically postal and flame out in the thread-o-sphere...

And of course we might also snag the odd eurofascist (aren't they all odd?)...and the occasional Serbian genocide apologist...

Fun times ahead. I can already smell their gamy young buttocks skewered like rotisserie chickens and roasting on the threads.

Well my gamy young buttocks thank you for the warm welcome!

310 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:35pm

Welcome hatchlings! All your fruit cup are belong to us.

311 locogalt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:36pm

re: #269 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

can't take the training wheels off until i can hold it as well as teddy

312 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:37pm

re: #291 OldLineTexan

well darn it. blushing

313 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:38pm

re: #299 Digitalrealtor

Digitalrealtor hatchling here. Just saw a very compelling youtube video. It is about a lawsuit filed by a PA democrat lawyer. He is challenging Obamas birth certificate and whether or not he is a naturalized or natural born citizen. This video must be shared. Please watch and send to your contacts.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That's posted in the links.

314 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:28:41pm

re: #293 ClosetConservative

Humor is going to be a great necessity in the next four years if the polls don't change soon.

I don't think the polls are going to change soon unless they decide to quick loading them. In the meantime, only one poll matters.

315 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:10pm

re: #300 Sharmuta

No- so far all Newbies seem nice.

This registration seems a litter different. More than usual are posting on their first day.

316 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:16pm

re: #287 baxtrice

Boy, your HP must really suck then, if you want to throw it out the window..

Bwahahahahahaha

*disclaimer: I'm a mac user*

The best way to accelerate a PC?
9.8 m/s2

317 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:24pm

re: #310 Who Watches the Watchmen?

us means "me" of course. by pravda

318 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:28pm

re: #293 ClosetConservative

Humor is going to be a great necessity in the next four years if the polls don't change soon.

I figure that survival skills will be important. After Obamanation gets done not raising our taxes, just like worthlessWillie did, we will all be in dire straits.

319 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:37pm

re: #269 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Training wheels?

Wheelbarrow.

320 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:40pm

re: #311 locogalt

can't take the training wheels off until i can hold it as well as teddy

LOL, I hear he's not too steady.

321 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:46pm

re: #302 DoubleU

I made it! Wooot!

Poseur!
Imposter!

You were already here.
Don't think you're gonna get any special treatment 'cause you're pretending to be new.

322 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:47pm

re: #274 Salamantis

And now it'll be time to educate a whole nother batch of noob literalist creationists about evolution...with the same refutations to the same arguments we've seen umpteen times before...

And time to see which ones can't take logic and evidence, and go ballistically postal and flame out in the thread-o-sphere...

And of course we might also snag the odd eurofascist (aren't they all odd?)...and the occasional Serbian genocide apologist...

Fun times ahead. I can already smell their gamy young buttocks skewered like rotisserie chickens and roasting on the threads.

Well, ain't you a ray of Maryfuckingsunshine!

323 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:52pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

I'm born! Who's going to cut my umbillical cord?

Mandy and Sharmuta take turns gnawing it off. Warning - they can be a little excitable, not to mention hungry...

324 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:57pm

re: #231 MandyManners

Cheers!

*KLINK* *KLINK**KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK* *KLINK*
Not the Colonel from Hogan's Heroes, just a nice, warm toast!

325 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:29:59pm

re: #315 Syrah

This registration seems a litter different. More than usual are posting on their first day.

litter different? Kittens! /:D

326 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:10pm

re: #318 JeremyR

I figure that survival skills will be important. After Obamanation gets done not raising our taxes, just like worthlessWillie did, we will all be in dire straits.

That's because 0bama wants to give "the poor" money for nothing.

327 Gus 802  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:15pm

re: #296 Mich-again

Thanks Mich-again.

328 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:25pm

re: #315 Syrah
might have to do with the agitation much of population is feeling?

329 Clemente  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:31pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

That's for dimensions to you, mister; X, Y, Z and time.

I give time half credit, as it's only visible in one direction, and traversable in t'other. Darned inconvenient.

330 jonathan1984  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:33pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I agree with you. It's not as bad as people say it is.

331 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:40pm
332 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:41pm

re: #315 Syrah

I'm still hoping we get some PUMAs.

333 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:49pm

I was thinking of dusting off my long-unused sock puppet for this auspicious occasion, but decided against it.

334 jetprop  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:30:54pm

Drunk Lizards!
*Clink*

335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:13pm

Just imagine. Our kids in 60 years giving "You don't understand what poor is" speeches to their grandchildren.

"My Ipod headphones broke. I had to wait for three days to get new ones. And I didn't get the expensive ones either!"

"Old people are people born in the depression, who have yet to adjust for inflation." - Stephen Colbert (paraphrased)

336 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:17pm

re: #306 MandyManners

Nah. People know I'm content being a curmudgeon.


well, he can be a bit of a dick at times..mebbe you'd make curmudgeony music together or sumpin'...heh

337 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:18pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let's get the first argument started. Ready?

I recently bought a new computer, and I like MS Vista.

Let's the games begin.

I like my Vista too.

338 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:23pm

re: #295 little doxie

Thank you Charles for the opportunity to register, I've been a
reader/lurker and certainly appreciate all the great information, especially
now.

I'm not sure what I can contribute but I've been a fan for the past 1 1/2
years and have learned a lot.

Welcome to our littel acre of heaven, dox.

339 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:24pm

re: #304 Metal Man

Agreed, I didn't write it, so I do not feel free to edit it. I borrowed it with permission from the guy who did. He is a Vietnam vet Marine.

340 The Archivist  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:25pm

I get the whole hatchling thing.

But whadda ya call a lizard that only crawls out of the cave every four years (me)?
Seems it takes a tight race to bring me to a sentient state of concern about politics...

341 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:29pm

re: #325 Cattt
o.k kittens are off limits ! no munching~

342 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:35pm

re: #294 jaunte

More scintillant economic thought from that Kos link:
"The upside of everything being more expensive is that it makes alternative energy sources more affordable and cost effective."

shaking head

That thought has been circulated before, in the mid-90's. Tom Daschle, if I'm not mistaken, said we should tax gas up to $3.50 - $4.00 per gallon, to encourage alternative energy. And he had a big following too. The name is off the top of my head; I can look it up if necessary.

This is the same price, I might add, that had democracts drolling on and on about the failures of the Bush administration a decade later..

343 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:38pm

Good evening Lizards.
I see we are letting in fresh blood,and it just so happens i'm thirsty.

344 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:31:41pm

I made it!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks, Charles!

345 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:04pm

Wow. Sure are a lot of little green footballs here. ~someone~ needs to get them an avatar.

346 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:06pm

re: #294 jaunte

More scintillant economic thought from that Kos link:
"The upside of everything being more expensive is that it makes alternative energy sources more affordable and cost effective."

shaking head

Here's hoping that they are all rocket scientists...Iranian rocket scientists.

347 Gearhead  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:11pm

Welcome noobs.

It's a tough room at first, but it gets worse over time.

//

348 skullkrusher  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:19pm

Yay! Got my LGF account. Now I can retire my Daily Kos. That was just getting painful :)

349 yochanan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:22pm

re: #304 Metal Man

Technically correct but the choice to stop funding and supplying the south Vietnamese by the US did seal that fate.

More correct THE UNITED STATES MILITARY DID NOT LOSE THE WAR IN VIETNAM, THE SOUTH VIETNAMESE DID

THE AMERICAN CONGRESS LOST THE WAR IN VIET NAM WHEN THEY STOPPED THE AID TO THE REPUBLIC OF VIET NAM

350 bcgirl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:23pm

huuu? so this means that i can now get solar energy for less than i have to pay the power company?

this just makes no sense to me, is there someting wrong wit my brain?

re: #294 jaunte

More scintillant economic thought from that Kos link:
"The upside of everything being more expensive is that it makes alternative energy sources more affordable and cost effective."

shaking head

351 Charles  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:24pm

118 hatchlings and closing...

352 wbutler  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:27pm

Glad to be a (new) part of the lizardoid army!

353 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:28pm

re: #226 Outrider

All right! ASA!

If that's what I think it is, my dad applied for that job after he got out of the air force. They told him in the interview that he couldn't be armed while on duty (he asked). He told them "no thanks", and as he tells it, he wasn't a bit surprised to hear later on that the occupants of some of those outposts were killed.

354 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:37pm

re: #298 Palandine

It does pretty well just next to a window. This year I invested in some grow lights (about $50) to increase my production. I'm also trying snow peas, tomatoes and basil.

355 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:47pm

re: #344 godfrey

I made it!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks, Charles!

Horsefeathers.

356 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:49pm

re: #344 godfrey

I made it!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks, Charles!

Smarty pants. lol

357 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:32:51pm

re: #316 jcm

The best way to accelerate a PC?
9.8 m/s2

It's my job description, except I use multiples of G.

358 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:00pm

re: #340 The Archivist

I get the whole hatchling thing.

But whadda ya call a lizard that only crawls out of the cave every four years (me)?
Seems it takes a tight race to bring me to a sentient state of concern about politics...

A friend in need is a friend indeed? A foul-weather friend? (Glad to see you're concerned!)

359 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:00pm

re: #348 skullkrusher

Are you a good kosling, or a bad kosling?

360 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:08pm

re: #332 Sharmuta
i watched a discussion on Ace blog between Hillary dems for McCain and some tough Reps. it was quite fascinating

361 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:21pm

re: #313 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's posted in the links.

I have been following that for several weeks now. Oh how I wish the wheels of justice would turn a little faster. By the time he rules, Obamanation may be selected.

362 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:33pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

That's for dimensions to you, mister; X, Y, Z and time.

But I was describing time. You're not supposed to use the word in the definition.

363 DoubleU  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:35pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

I made it... about two years ago.

364 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:36pm

re: #346 OldLineTexan

I hear that economic problems in Iran have been declared unIslamic, or possibly just haram. Problem solved.

365 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:37pm
366 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:47pm

re: #345 Outrider

i am barren . weeping. seriously how do you make one?

367 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:51pm

Where are all the chicks?

Is this a boob thread?

Hey Charles, where's my check?

It's great to be posting here at Kos!

368 John-SA  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:33:54pm

Finally, I'm in. I've been a reader of LGF for about two years.

Greetings from Australia.

369 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:00pm

re: #326 Kosh's Shadow

That's because 0bama wants to give "the poor" money for nothing.

and chicks for free?

370 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:02pm

re: #344 godfrey

I made it!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks, Charles!

you mean the 1st post of yours thats made SENSE!

371 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:07pm

re: #316 jcm

The best way to accelerate a PC?
9.8 m/s2

Took me a minute to get that..D'Oh!

372 Clemente  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:30pm

re: #255 ThoughtProcess

I'm born! Who's going to cut my umbillical cord?

Real soon now, the rabbi will be by with a little surprise for ya!

373 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:38pm

So, are libs just now discovering potatoes?

To quote my grandfather, when my mom served potatoes: "Oh boy! Potatoes! Haven't had any potatoes yet today!"

374 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:49pm

re: #368 John-SA

Hello South Australia?

375 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:34:55pm

Welcome to all new hatchlings, here's your accordian*. Note to all trolls, mobys, and reruns, we will find you, expose you, and ridicule you.

*Gratuitous Far Side reference.

376 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:07pm

re: #351 Charles

118 oe 117 and a savage?

377 Alouette  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:11pm

re: #99 arethusa

Philly phans may (or may not) have booed Sarah Palin and Piper. See JammieWearingFool.

If they did boo, this is also the city that booed Santa Claus, throws "D" batteries at opposing baseball outfielders, iceballs at football refs, and, I believe, a fetal pig in a jar once. She's in good company.

Disclaimer: I'm from there. (That's more of a disclaimer than the guy who wrote the Tasergate report offered.)

In the off-season, they boo the crack in the Liberty Bell.

378 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:17pm

re: #344 godfrey

I made it!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks, Charles!

Funny. As. Hell.

379 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:19pm

re: #367 godfrey

Where are all the chicks?

Is this a boob thread?

Hey Charles, where's my check?

It's great to be posting here at Kos!

Is this a boob thread? Yes - you're here.. :D

380 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:23pm

re: #344 godfrey

I made it!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks, Charles!

Really? Since you've been lurking, what do you think about that guy with the old-skool hat for an avatar?

381 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:32pm

re: #357 OldLineTexan

It's my job description, except I use multiples of G.

This you at work?

382 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:34pm

re: #340 The Archivist

I get the whole hatchling thing.

But whadda ya call a lizard that only crawls out of the cave every four years (me)?

Shy?

383 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:44pm

re: #354 Killgore Trout

It does pretty well just next to a window. This year I invested in some grow lights (about $50) to increase my production. I'm also trying snow peas, tomatoes and basil.


grow lights..ahem

384 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:35:58pm

Chill on the potatoes, people! Potatoes aren't sustainable. When Obama is proclaimed Emperor, you will all eat the royal yam!

385 bcgirl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:25pm

re: #326 Kosh's Shadow

That's because 0bama wants to give "the poor" money for nothing.

and chicks for free (sorry i just could not resist) oh may as well finish it, and a microwave oven and a color tv?

386 John-SA  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:27pm

re: #374 jaunte

Hello South Australia?

Yep. The driest State in the driest continent.

387 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:32pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

That's for dimensions to you, mister; X, Y, Z and time.

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination.

388 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:33pm

re: #354 Killgore Trout

Did you buy your grow lights online? Please keep us updated on how everything is doing, I've been thinking of growing tomatoes indoors for a while and I'd love to hear your progress reports. :) I've become addicted to homemade salsa. Tomatoes, onions, garlic and cilantro with a bit of salt. YUM

389 Geminita  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:34pm

Ta Dah !

Now, where's my cake ?

390 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:34pm

re: #384 godfrey

Chill on the potatoes, people! Potatoes aren't sustainable. When Obama is proclaimed Emperor, you will all eat the royal yam!

Is that what he calls it?

391 jonathan1984  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:36pm

re: #351 Charles

Pretty healthy hatchling count.

392 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:39pm

re: #339 JeremyR
Wasn't trying to slam anything in the group of posts just wanted to point out that Those who fought that war did not fail politicians did.

393 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:42pm

re: #375 Honorary Yooper

Welcome to all new hatchlings, here's your accordian*. Note to all trolls, mobys, and reruns, we will find you, expose you, and ridicule you.

What you got against Rerun?

394 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:43pm

re: #372 Clemente

Real soon now, the rabbi will be by with a little surprise for ya!

Silly Rabbi. Tips are for Yidds!

Well dammit. I think it's funny!

395 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:36:59pm

re: #383 joecitizen

grow lights..ahem


Are you implying I placed an order from a seed bank in Amsterdam?
/I'm outraged

396 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:01pm

Oh sh*t

This isn't HuffPo?

/peace out!

397 Racer X  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:09pm

Yes!

I'm in! I made it!

398 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:20pm

re: #386 John-SA

I have my map open; you have some good place names down there:
Wallaroo, Streaky Bay...

399 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:23pm

re: #368 John-SA

Finally, I'm in. I've been a reader of LGF for about two years.

Greetings from Australia.

g-day mate.
welcome

400 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:27pm

re: #385 bcgirl

and chicks for free (sorry i just could not resist) oh may as well finish it, and a microwave oven and a color tv?

That ain't working, that's the way you do it

401 little doxie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:27pm

Thank you Gang of One, I'm glad to be here, scared to death of
screwing up my posts, wish there was a Newbie orientation class
I could take!

402 Clemente  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:33pm

re: #351 Charles

118 hatchlings and closing...

Thanks, Charles, for everything LGF!

403 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:40pm

re: #389 Geminita

Ta Dah !

Now, where's my cake ?

as soon as you bake it, you'll have it (to share with us)

404 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:52pm

re: #388 gop_patriot

BBev is also starting tomatoes indoors this weekend. We're having a race to see who gets the first ripe one.

405 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:37:52pm

All the regulars acting like newbies are cracking me up.

406 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:01pm

re: #385 bcgirl

and chicks for free (sorry i just could not resist) oh may as well finish it, and a microwave oven and a color tv?

A car in every back yard, a chicken in every pot...Herbert Hoover. Who also embraced higher taxes and protectionism in the face of a recession.

407 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:03pm

re: #381 jcm

This you at work?

If it was, I wouldn't get to keep the job. My boss is a big siege weapons buff, and has built a few small trebuchets to go with his crossbow business.

408 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:10pm

re: #389 Geminita

i dunno, but i'm certainly not climbng into that thing.

409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:20pm

re: #389 Geminita

Ta Dah !

Now, where's my cake ?

Oh. Urp. Sorry.

I like cake.

410 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:26pm

re: #397 Racer X
hey fibber!

411 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:28pm

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

412 ThoughtProcess  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:30pm

re: #360 willowone

i watched a discussion on Ace blog between Hillary dems for McCain and some tough Reps. it was quite fascinating

What else was it besides fascinating? What kinds of things were said, by whom?

413 Alouette  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:34pm

Hey, are the n00bie avatars "medium green footballs" or is it just my astigmatism?

414 nigella  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:40pm

Hello little lizards! Welcome, just one word of advice,don't piss Mandy off. Remember that and you will be fine.

415 Racer X  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:49pm

What are we drinking tonight?

416 Gearhead  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:50pm

re: #368 John-SA

Finally, I'm in. I've been a reader of LGF for about two years.

Greetings from Australia.

We have two families of Australians on my street (in Alabama). Fine people all.

Welcome!

417 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:53pm

re: #392 Metal Man

I'm fine with it. Politicians are the dead weight we carry. look how Murtha has screwed the marines with so many stupid trials.

418 skullkrusher  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:38:55pm
re: #348 skullkrusher

Are you a good kosling, or a bad kosling?

I guess that would depend on your definition of good. I would say to 98% of the other members, I was a bad Kosling however I never trolled. Just called them out on BS when necessary.

419 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:15pm

re: #390 Perplexed

Is that what he calls it?

Ahem. Where's my drink, newbie?

420 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:24pm

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

I'm moving to Texas to live next to tfk. Although he will not win.

421 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:30pm

re: #415 Racer X

What are we drinking tonight?

Budweiser here. Same as it ever was.

422 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:31pm

re: #386 John-SA

Yep. The driest State in the driest continent.

Then welcome from the crookedest state in the United States, Illinois.

423 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:38pm

re: #401 little doxie

Thank you Gang of One, I'm glad to be here, scared to death of
screwing up my posts, wish there was a Newbie orientation class
I could take!

Everything you need to know or need to find out can be found, Here: The LGF Dictionary. (when in doubt, go there)

424 Racer X  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:46pm

re: #410 willowone

I didn't say when I made it!

LOL!

425 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:47pm

re: #335 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just imagine. Our kids in 60 years giving "You don't understand what poor is" speeches to their grandchildren.

"My Ipod headphones broke. I had to wait for three days to get new ones. And I didn't get the expensive ones either!"

"Old people are people born in the depression, who have yet to adjust for inflation." - Stephen Colbert (paraphrased)

I'm gonna tell my kids that my household, with a net worth of each party numbering three non-decimal digits at any given time, had good steady food, two cars, two computers, two cats, an ipod, a 42" LCD TV, and cable television with DVR, and we still turn a very small profit each month.

A good percentage of the "poor" I've encountered have put themselves squarely in that bracket due to laziness and/or stupidity.

426 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:57pm

re: #414 nigella

Hello little lizards! Welcome, just one word of advice,don't piss Mandy off. Remember that and you will be fine.

What? Mandy is a nice girl.

427 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:39:59pm

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

Start working to take Congress back in 2010.

428 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:03pm

re: #367 godfrey

It's great to be posting here at Kos!

We should have a Kos thread sometime, where we try to invert our brans to think like them.

"I'm an enlightened liberal. I'm looking forward to the coming Great Depression so our kids won't be as fat, and we can put people to work on huge infrastructure projects like FDR did. Plus it'll show those red state morons.

I'm a liberal, and I care about human suffering more than you do."

/riffing off the Kos Kiddie.
//Wonder if he's ever seen pictures of the CCC camps. They weren't bad for the time, but considering the way libs bitch about jihadis getting free medical care, halal meals, and Koran hammocks at Gitmo, the CCC camps would be seen as cruel and unusual punishment.

429 Oldasdirt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:08pm

re: #397 Racer X

Yes!

I'm in! I made it!

Welcome Racer X.Glad to see you here,for the first time ever.

430 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:10pm

re: #395 Killgore Trout

Are you implying I placed an order from a seed bank in Amsterdam?
/I'm outraged


I smuggled 'em in in my cane...sounds like a partnership in the making

431 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:10pm

re: #406 arethusa

A car in every back yard, ...

Sounds about right, I won't be able to afford gas by the time the dems are done.

432 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:34pm

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

Sit back and observe, young Grasshopper...

433 kahall  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:41pm

When do hatchlings get health benefits?

434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:42pm

re: #401 little doxie

Thank you Gang of One, I'm glad to be here, scared to death of
screwing up my posts, wish there was a Newbie orientation class
I could take!

Just don't f*ck up the grammar. We hate bad grammar.

No typos are allowed.

Other than that? No pressure.

435 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:45pm

re: #372 Clemente

Real soon now, the rabbi will be by with a little surprise for ya!

Actually, it is a mohel who performs circumcisions. (Pronounced "moyel")
I heard a joke a long time ago from a girl who was in a course I was teaching assistant for. (I don't believe she was Jewish)

A mohel retired, and wanted to have something to remember his work.
He went to a leather worker, and said
"I collected all the foreskins from all the circumcisions I performed. Can you make something good from them?"
The leather worker assured him that he'd make something nice.
When the mohel came back, the leather worker handed him a wallet.
"This is all you made with the foreskins?"
"Yes, but it is a very special wallet. If you stroke it, it turns into a briefcase."

436 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:46pm

re: #420 Sharmuta

I'm moving to Texas to live next to tfk. Although he will not win.

Herll, come on down anyways.

437 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:40:47pm

re: #422 Honorary Yooper

Then welcome from the crookedest state in the United States, Illinois.

I take umbrage at that remark, That distinction belongs to my State.

438 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:04pm

re: #414 nigella

Hello little lizards! Welcome, just one word of advice,don't piss Mandy off. Remember that and you will be fine.

Unless, of course, you like being whacked by a clue-by-four.

439 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:06pm
440 nigella  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:17pm

Sharmuta, don't come here everyday, but I just want to say I appreciate your optimism!Oh and I enjoy Mandy's spunk!

441 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:17pm

re: #401 little doxie

Thank you Gang of One, I'm glad to be here, scared to death of
screwing up my posts, wish there was a Newbie orientation class
I could take!

Do not fear. Fear is the little death. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Who said that?

DRINK!

442 joecitizen  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:24pm

re: #401 little doxie

Thank you Gang of One, I'm glad to be here, scared to death of
screwing up my posts, wish there was a Newbie orientation class
I could take!


shit man, or gal, screw fear, dive right in!

443 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:24pm

re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. Urp. Sorry.

I like cake.

The cake is a lie.

444 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:27pm

re: #413 Alouette

Hey, are the n00bie avatars "medium green footballs" or is it just my astigmatism?

No- Charles changed the football to mimic the one in the header. I think it's cool.

445 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:41:54pm

re: #433 kahall

When do hatchlings get health benefits?

Look for that information in your first check from ZOG. Send all claims to the 7th level C/O DIA.

446 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:15pm

re: #437 Mich-again

I take umbrage at that remark, That distinction belongs to my State.

I thought Michigan's problem was that they kept on electing Democrats who made things worse? (i.e., stupidity, not corruption, no offense intended)

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:31pm

re: #431 JeremyR

Sounds about right, I won't be able to afford gas by the time the dems are done.

I paid 2.93 today.

448 missviolin  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:35pm

crap! I couldn't log my friend on in time! Every name was used that I thought up. Then, it was closed. He'd be someone we liked. Next time I'll be faster!

449 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:39pm

re: #440 nigella

5-7 million PUMAs will drag us dragging McCain across the finish line.

450 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:45pm

re: #441 Gang of One

Do not fear. Fear is the little death. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Who said that?

DRINK!

It is a Bene Gesserit teaching proverb. Welcome, human.

451 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:47pm

re: #401 little doxie

Thank you Gang of One, I'm glad to be here, scared to death of
screwing up my posts, wish there was a Newbie orientation class
I could take!

Read the FAQ.
Read the disclaimer at the top of each thread.
This is Charles house; his rules.
Read the LGF Dictionary.
Read Nekama's Troll hammer.
(All up in the stuff on the left side bar)
Ask questions if your not sure of proper etiquette.
Click a posters avatar to see how long they've been around. Listen to the oldtimers (me you can safely ignore).
When you a hatchling don't forget you sarc tag ( /sarc ).

Welcome and have fun.

452 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:48pm

re: #412 ThoughtProcess
It was an attempt by the Ace blog, to find out what McCains team needed to address for them to feel encouraged to join US. It was quite lovely even though strange, Ace seems to have a rough and tough room and many of the Pumas are possibly not quite used to the roughness of the comments (slightly sexual) but all -n- all i think common goals were found.
we really do Need to encourage discussion and bonds.

453 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:42:56pm

re: #428 Palandine

We should have a Kos thread sometime, where we try to invert our brans to think like them.

Sorry, I'm not that flexible anymore, So there is no way my head is going up my ass.

454 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:13pm

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I paid 2.93 today.

2.89. And I'm far, far from any refineries. So it must be cheaper in the South?

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:14pm

re: #433 kahall

When do hatchlings get health benefits?

Don't worry. The tail will grow back.

Lizard HMO

456 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:18pm

Greg Biffle is my favorite.

457 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:18pm
re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

I'd look forward to a Republican sweep in 2010 and a Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012.

458 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:29pm

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

I feel a little encroached by your nic. I'm keeping an eye on you...

459 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:29pm

re: #451 jcm

An excellent summary!

460 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:31pm

re: #441 Gang of One

Do not fear. Fear is the little death. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Who said that?

DRINK!

It is from the Bene Gesserit Litany against Fear, Maud'dib.

461 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:35pm

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I paid 2.93 today.

2.73, bay-bee

462 kahall  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:35pm

re: #445 Perplexed

Look for that information in your first check from ZOG. Send all claims to the 7th level C/O DIA.

I have already received my first check but I have not needed health care until recently so I am looking for it now. You know, cuz I need it. over.

463 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:51pm

re: #433 kahall

When do hatchlings get health benefits?

The aspirin isle over at 7eleven.

464 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:43:55pm

Has anyone noticed that we didn't have financial problems until the Dems had Congress for 2 years?

Oh, and I paid $3.97/gallon a few minutes ago.

465 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:04pm

Good evening, Lizards. Are the hatchlings behaving themselves?

466 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:10pm

re: #448 missviolin

crap! I couldn't log my friend on in time! Every name was used that I thought up. Then, it was closed. He'd be someone we liked. Next time I'll be faster!

Try those fake Obama donor names. I'm especially fond of the one that's like jjjggg or something./

467 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:26pm

re: #353 Pawn of the Oppressor

If that's what I think it is, my dad applied for that job after he got out of the air force. They told him in the interview that he couldn't be armed while on duty (he asked). He told them "no thanks", and as he tells it, he wasn't a bit surprised to hear later on that the occupants of some of those outposts were killed.

I don't know he was going for. The Air Force has their own.

We were always armed in field environments, although because we were operating in small teams, camouflage and site selection were more valuable.

At all strategic sites we had Military Police guarding the sites.

468 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:27pm

re: #464 J.D.

Has anyone noticed that we didn't have financial problems until the Dems had Congress for 2 years?

Oh, and I paid $3.97/gallon a few minutes ago.

2.83 here in KC

469 Marlin925  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:30pm

CRR-ACK... Outta my shell. Army guy (Afghanistan x 2), gun nut, Libertarian leaning, fan of Austrian economics.

470 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:42pm

re: #449 Sharmuta

5-7 million PUMAs will drag us dragging McCain across the finish line.

You sure are putting a lot of pressure on the PUMA's these days. Not saying they won't come through, but sheesh, I hope they're up for it.

471 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:42pm

re: #464 J.D.

Has anyone noticed that we didn't have financial problems until the Dems had Congress for 2 years?

SMEAR!

472 nigella  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:50pm

Sharmuta, do you really think so? I've tried to keep a positive attitude, but it's getting harder every day.

473 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:57pm

re: #441 Gang of One

Do not fear. Fear is the little death. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Who said that?

DRINK!

The Kwisatch Haderach, Paul Atreides nee Muad Dib.

474 yochanan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:57pm

re: #435 Kosh's Shadow

OLD ONE KOSH but still funny.

475 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:44:58pm

re: #428 Palandine

Dude, I'm so stoked to see another Kos Genius posting here! I thought I was in Lizard Hate Land! ROFL Look, totally. I'm with you, bro. Bran is wholesome. For a while there, I was eating all this Cheez Whiz, just because like everyone else with a brain I blew my parent's money on some seriously good bud, and like for a week I ate nothing but Cheetos and Cheez Whiz. Man, did I pay for it. Now I'm on my girlfriend's vegan diet, drinking wheatgrass every morning, and dude -- it totally cleaned me out. The no-dairy bran muffins run through me, too, but hey, it's for the environment, right? Righteous.

476 esch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:00pm

re: #465 jorline

Well, the beatings continue but I have yet to see morale improve.

477 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:00pm

To celebrate the hatchlings, here's an Obama Page

Obama parodies and satires and snipes to use in the battle until Election Day! All FREE for the taking, for those of us who want to share them with friends or whack moonbats upside the head with these MP3 cluebatz! :D

478 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:01pm

re: #469 Marlin925

Thank you for your service!

479 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:08pm

re: #468 Thanos

I am waaay down south, so maybe that explains it.

480 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:16pm

re: #441 Gang of One

Do not fear. Fear is the little death. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Who said that?

DRINK!

Frank Herbert

481 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:19pm

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

Same thing I do every day: plot to take over the world.
/The Brain
***
Do what I'm doing now--
*Continue to pay extra on the car to get it paid off early.
*Accrue cash
*Grow a garden and be self-sufficient
*Become a collosal pain in my representative and senators' butts

He'd be my Commander in Chief. As squicked out as that concept makes me, I'd respect the office.

482 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:20pm

re: #472 nigella

Start reading PUMA blogs.

483 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:23pm

re: #464 J.D.

Has anyone noticed that we didn't have financial problems until the Dems had Congress for 2 years?

Oh, and I paid $3.97/gallon a few minutes ago.

Gas at $2.78 here.

484 Gearhead  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:36pm

re: #433 kahall

When do hatchlings get health benefits?

I thought having a place to vent was a health benefit ;-)

485 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:38pm

re: #471 Who Watches the Watchmen?

SMEAR!

Oh, dear.
Was that racist?

486 yamster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:40pm

an excellant site to read---

[Link: backyardconservative.blogspot.com...]

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:44pm

re: #469 Marlin925

Thank you for your service.

488 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:53pm

re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I paid 2.93 today.

$2.47, but I pump LP.

489 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:54pm

re: #458 cliffster

encroached by my nic? what does that mean?

490 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:45:59pm

re: #412 ThoughtProcess
One more thing, even if it is a one night stand, that isn't always a bad thing.

491 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:01pm

re: #469 Marlin925

CRR-ACK... Outta my shell. Army guy (Afghanistan x 2), gun nut, Libertarian leaning, fan of Austrian economics.

Welcome! Normally hatchlings buy a round. But with two tours, I owe you! Thank you for your service.

492 David Simon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:21pm

re: #388 gop_patriot

Did you buy your grow lights online? Please keep us updated on how everything is doing, I've been thinking of growing tomatoes indoors for a while and I'd love to hear your progress reports. :) I've become addicted to homemade salsa. Tomatoes, onions, garlic and cilantro with a bit of salt. YUM

Check this out:

[Link: thephoenix.com...]

As the article intimates, not as good as the best end of summer heirlooms. But heads and shoulders above the hard pink shit that passes for "tomatoes" in the supermarket in the dead of winter.

493 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:28pm

re: #469 Marlin925

Welcome in, and thanks.

494 kahall  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:34pm

re: #484 Gearhead

I thought having a place to vent was a health benefit ;-)

Yes, I would be bald without those places.

495 nigella  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:38pm

Sharmuta, I tried tying in Puma and didn't find much. Where do you go?

496 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:38pm

Oh...and it was:

Fear is the mind killer.

497 NYCHardhat  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:46:39pm

Hello all. I've been reading for quite some time. Now I will have some Guiness. And some tums until this election ends.

498 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:05pm

re: #485 J.D.

Oh, dear.
Was that racist?

No, you're just repeating a Rovian talking point from the Right-Wing Smear Machine™.
/

499 nigella  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:09pm

PIMF typing in Puma

500 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:16pm

re: #479 J.D.

I am waaay down south, so maybe that explains it.

Still in short supply from the 'urricane, and we have the ethanol stuff here. It's so underpowered it better be cheap.

501 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:18pm

re: #497 NYCHardhat

Hello all. I've been reading for quite some time. Now I will have some Guiness. And some tums until this election ends.

I ate Tums like candy when I taught my daughter to drive.

502 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:18pm

Old Line Tex and Kosh,

Of course! Bene Gesserit Witches®, Must I use the Voice now?

503 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:33pm

re: #495 nigella

Hillbuzz is my new favorite, but there is also the Hillary Clinton Forum. I know others go to PUMA PAC.

504 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:44pm

500 in 57 minutes?

505 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:54pm

re: #483 Perplexed

Gas at $2.78 here.

About $3.30 in AZ.

506 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:47:56pm

re: #437 Mich-again

I take umbrage at that remark, That distinction belongs to my State.

No, Michigan is by far and away cleaner on a bad day than Illinois could ever be on a good day. Why do you think Chicago has more FBI agents than any other city in the US? It's not for the weather.

Remember, Obama, Blagojevich, Ryan, Daley (father and son), Stroger, Jones, Ayres, Rezko, and Axlerod all hail from Illinois, specifically that swamp we call Chicago (except Ryan - he's from Kankakee).

507 ThoughtProcess  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:01pm

re: #481 Palandine

Same thing I do every day: plot to take over the world.
/The Brain
***
Do what I'm doing now--
*Continue to pay extra on the car to get it paid off early.
*Accrue cash
*Grow a garden and be self-sufficient
*Become a collosal pain in my representative and senators' butts

He'd be my Commander in Chief. As squicked out as that concept makes me, I'd respect the office.

I remember painfully the way our current Commander in Chief was "respected" 7 years ago.

508 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:06pm

re: #496 Salamantis

But not if you have the Churchill Haderach saying it.

509 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:07pm

re: #495 nigella
puma confluence

510 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:10pm

re: #502 Gang of One

Old Line Tex and Kosh,

Of course! Bene Gesserit Witches®, Must I use the Voice now?

Ye know the Weirding Way? Where'd you get your Modules?

511 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:11pm

re: #469 Marlin925

fan of Austrian economics

G'day Mate! Let's put another shrimp on the barby!
(Dumb and Dumber)

512 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:12pm

'Night all. Got to get packed for a trip.

513 nigella  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:22pm

Sharmuta, thanks for the info.

514 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:28pm

re: #499 nigella

And Yooper likes the real barack obama site.

515 bcgirl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:32pm

/ quit both my jobs and go on obammawelfare so i can go travel all over protesting the government and i will wear on of those tee shirts with a picture of obamma that says not my president, like i have seen some of the welfare customers wearing while buying food with food stamps

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

516 onlyNYneocon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:51pm

first post here! Long time lurker though. Just emailed LGF a few days ago BEGGING to register. I'm glad to be here.

Was at the McCain rally in lakeville yesterday. I think McCain finally "gets it" (his own words). His supporters have been hammering home the frustration we feel.

Again, hello to all.

Randy

517 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:48:52pm

re: #404 Killgore Trout

Cool, what type are you growing?

518 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:03pm

re: #503 Sharmuta
yes Hillbuzz is nice, also a very knowledgeable collective.

519 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:21pm

re: #498 Who Watches the Watchmen?

No, you're just repeating a Rovian talking point from the Right-Wing Smear Machine™.
/

But that qualifies as racist these days, I think.

re: #500 Thanos

Still in short supply from the 'urricane, and we have the ethanol stuff here. It's so underpowered it better be cheap.


Yes...we get that, too. I drove from Louisiana to Kentucky last week and saw a lot of stations that were flat out of gas.

520 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:31pm

re: #326 Kosh's Shadow

That's because 0bama wants to give "the poor" money for nothing.

And the Pinkos4Peace chicks for free!

521 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:35pm

re: #467 Outrider

I don't know he was going for. The Air Force has their own.

We were always armed in field environments, although because we were operating in small teams, camouflage and site selection were more valuable.

At all strategic sites we had Military Police guarding the sites.

I'll have to ask him. This might have been something civilian, or what we'd call "contractors" now. I do know the interview was short, as "Will I be allowed to have weapons to defend myself" was the first or second question my father asked. I get the feeling dad was looking for a change of pace (he went to work in Alaska in '62) but he didn't have a death wish.

522 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:46pm

Be wary, Hatchlings; the Gom Jabbar awaits...

523 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:46pm

re: #515 bcgirl

/ quit both my jobs and go on obammawelfare so i can go travel all over protesting the government and i will wear on of those tee shirts with a picture of obamma that says not my president, like i have seen some of the welfare customers wearing while buying food with food stamps

Revenge is a dish best served cold..

524 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:49pm

re: #469 Marlin925

Thank you for your service. Gun talk begins at oh-one-hundred hours. ;)

525 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:53pm

re: #476 esch

Well, the beatings continue but I have yet to see morale improve.

LOL...are you trying to lift the morale by taking the beatings?

526 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:49:55pm

re: #510 Salamantis

Ye know the Weirding Way? Where'd you get your Modules?

I just knew from observing the Fremen. Tell me of your home world, Osul ...

527 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:50:08pm

re: #489 Hapster

encroached by my nic? what does that mean?

"cliff"ster
"Hap"ster

How many sters can we have in one room?

528 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:50:37pm

re: #496 Salamantis

Oh...and it was:

Fear is the mind killer.

i just drank some of the water of life. what happens next?

529 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:50:43pm
530 Racer X  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:50:43pm

re: #504 MandyManners

500 in 57 minutes?

And watching the Nascar Race at Charlotte too!

531 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:50:58pm

re: #517 gop_patriot

I haven't ordered yet. It's kinda expensive (about $100). You have to send cash and there's no guarantee it will ever show up. Money's getting a little tight for me so I'm still sitting on the fence.

532 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:00pm

10 signs you might be a Taliban

10. You refine heroin for a living, but have a moral objection to beer.

9. You own a $1,500 machine gun and a $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can't afford shoes.

8. You have more wives than teeth.

7. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.

6. You can't think of anyone you HAVEN'T declared Jihad against.

5. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry ammunition in your clothes.

4. You've never been asked, 'Does this burka make my ass look big?'

3. You're amazed to discover that mobile phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.

2. A common compliment is, 'I love what you've done with your cave.'

And, the NUMBER ONE SIGN you might be a member of the Taliban:

1. You wipe your ass with your bare hand, but consider bacon unclean!

533 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:02pm

re: #522 Salamantis

Be wary, Hatchlings; the Gom Jabbar awaits...

What have you been appointed LGF bouncer?

534 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:07pm

re: #526 Gang of One

I just knew from observing the Fremen. Tell me of your home world, Osul ...

That would be Usul. But like Osama and Usama, or Obama and Ubama, it's easy to get confused...;~)

535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:23pm

re: #527 cliffster

"cliff"ster
"Hap"ster

How many sters can we have in one room?

You forgot Fat Ba(ster)d

536 esch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:38pm

re: #525 jorline

LOL...are you trying to lift the morale by taking the beatings?

I have a choice? No one told me!

537 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:39pm

re: #528 alien_mind

i just drank some of the water of life. what happens next?

Your eyes get this blue tinge thing going ...

538 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:39pm

re: #527 cliffster
ahhh ...
:-) got ya

539 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:41pm

re: #464 J.D.

Has anyone noticed that we didn't have financial problems until the Dems had Congress for 2 years?

Oh, and I paid $3.97/gallon a few minutes ago.

That much, wow! It's down to $3.50/gallon here in Chicago's far SW 'burbs (Will, Kendall, and Grundy Counties), and crashing with each day. By the time I need gas on Monday, it may even be in the $3.30s to $3.20s here.

540 jonathan1984  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:52pm

re: #516 onlyNYneocon

I hope, hope, hope you're right. Unfortunately, this is McCain we're talking about, so you never really can be sure...

541 kcladderman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:51:55pm

re: #227 MandyManners

That's when I booted the X to the curb.

I did five after my divorce. Single dad with a 2 year old not much time for anything else.

542 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:01pm

re: #435 Kosh's Shadow

Two men are standing at adjacent urinals when one glances over at the other and says, "So, do you get back to Brooklyn much?"

The other guy says, "How did you know I'm from Brooklyn?"

"Well," the first guy says, "before Cantor Cohen became cantor and mohel at the the synagogue in Park Slope, he used to be a tailor. I recognized his work -- the man always cuts on the bias."

543 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:02pm

re: #502 Gang of One

Old Line Tex and Kosh,

Of course! Bene Gesserit Witches®, Must I use the Voice now?

re: #496 Salamantis

Oh...and it was:

Fear is the mind killer.

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear... And when it is gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear is gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

544 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:06pm

re: #533 cliffster

What have you been appointed LGF bouncer?

Charles packs the Gon Jabbar.

545 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:07pm
546 NYCHardhat  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:29pm

If BHO wins:
1. quit my job
2. stop paying my mortgage
3. drink
4. Go back to college to be brainwashed into thinking Carter was a good president and Bush is Hitler.

547 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:30pm

re: #539 Honorary Yooper

That much, wow! It's down to $3.50/gallon here in Chicago's far SW 'burbs (Will, Kendall, and Grundy Counties), and crashing with each day. By the time I need gas on Monday, it may even be in the $3.30s to $3.20s here.

Bad idea to buy it on the weekend, I know, but I have a little trip to take tomorrow.

548 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:30pm

re: #497 NYCHardhat

heck i'm on a morphine drip.

549 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:51pm

re: #534 Salamantis

That would be Usul. But like Osama and Usama, or Obama and Ubama, it's easy to get confused...;~)

I hate when that happens ...

550 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:52:58pm

re: #535 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You forgot Fat Ba(ster)d

Well you're doing a good job. Just like Charles's ham(ster)s.

551 Spellcheck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:02pm

Saw this on the hillaryclintonforum about Monday's event -

Join the McCain - Palin Rally Today! Due to an overwheling reponse, the rally with Governor Sarah Palin has been moved to the Richmond International Raceway. Gates will open at 11:00am, the program will start at 2:00pm.

Someone posted the RIR has a capacity of 112,000+ : )

552 jcm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:02pm

re: #533 cliffster

What have you been appointed LGF bouncer?

I wouldn't mess with the Bene Gesserit...
But that's just me.

553 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:21pm

re: #544 Salamantis

Charles packs the Gon Jabbar.

The GONE Jabbar...PIMF

554 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:23pm

re: #422 Honorary Yooper

Then welcome from the crookedest state in the United States, Illinois.

Delusional.

The great state of Louisiana grows crooked politicians in rows, fresh to the harvest each year.

"Ah," you might said. "But what about our mob connections?"

Sure, Al Capone was famous and wealthy. Much like Britney Spears. The crooked in Louisiana make more graft of less capital than the average Chicago resident loses in his sofa cushions.

So stand down, sir. Stand down I say!

555 wright1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:29pm

re: #532 JeremyR

Not bad. I may just send this to a friend or two...

556 Moody leo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:47pm

re: #505 Opilio


3.11 in Shreveport

Welcome newbies

557 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:53:56pm

re: #527 cliffster

"cliff"ster
"Hap"ster

How many sters can we have in one room?

One of you noobs run get me a dozen 'sters on the hap shell...

558 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:09pm

re: #554 Cognito

You in Louisiana, Cognito?

559 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:12pm

re: #489 Hapster

encroached by my nic? what does that mean?

ster - get it?

560 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:21pm

re: #544 Salamantis

Charles packs the Gon Jabbar.

He's got a Gom Jabbar and isn't afraid to use it!

561 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:44pm

re: #558 J.D.

You in Louisiana, Cognito?

Nope.

562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:47pm

Time to join my wife in blissful slumber. (cue the pr0n music)...

563 esch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:50pm

re: #527 cliffster

"cliff"ster
"Hap"ster

How many sters can we have in one room?

At this rate we're going to go 'ster' crazy.

/ducks

564 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:54:53pm

re: #546 NYCHardhat

If BHO wins:
1. quit my job
2. stop paying my mortgage
3. drink
4. Go back to college to be brainwashed into thinking Carter was a good president and Bush is Hitler.

I'm in college now, and have already run across a few liberal profs that are trying to "indoctrinate" my conservative/libertarian mind. They don't like me after I basically shut them down after the first couple of weeks. *tee hee*

565 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:02pm

re: #534 Salamantis

That would be Usul. But like Osama and Usama, or Obama and Ubama, it's easy to get confused...;~)

Because they are often transliterations of the same root expression/name?

566 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:09pm

re: #546 NYCHardhat

If BHO wins:
1. quit my job
2. stop paying my mortgage
3. drink
4. Go back to college to be brainwashed into thinking Carter was a good president and Bush is Hitler.

But who's gonna pay for all that?

/trick question

567 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:17pm

re: #557 OldLineTexan

One of you noobs run get me a dozen 'sters on the hap shell...

Hey! I'm not that noob anymore..

568 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:24pm

re: #506 Honorary Yooper

you might be interested in this Info;[Link: www.countercurrents.org...] this one they have been threatening
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569 NYCHardhat  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:33pm

I think NJ is right behind Illinois with crooked politicians. McGreedy?

570 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:33pm

re: #560 cliffster

He's got a Gom Jabbar and isn't afraid to use it!

Excuse trolls while Charles whips it out...;~)

571 SiddFinch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:47pm

re: #351 Charles

118 hatchlings and closing...

thanks for the opening. luckily i was on at the right time. :-)

572 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:55:54pm

re: #441 Gang of One

Do not fear. Fear is the little death. You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Who said that?

DRINK!

The other "little death" is sooo much nicer.

573 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:02pm

LMAO...just saw Charles' lizard avatar costume on an AT&T commercial during the Missouri/Oklahoma State football game.

Almost a perfect match.

574 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:04pm

Another questionable Obama association. Must be Saturday.

You want the second paragraph: "I've been screaming into the abyss for some time about Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state treasurer that Obama endorsed when he ran for office despite no previous political experience, who has been personally mixed up with organized crime via business dealings with his family's bank."

575 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:04pm

re: #545 ploome hineni

...adapting the 'islamohobia' charge to accuse McCain of RACISM...or how to muzzle acandidate for POTUS

Congressman says McCain 'sowing seeds of hatred'

Fix and Destroy. They found some shit that'll stick.

Pull a couple of planted quotes from a rally, make Palin out to be ANGRY instead of just dumb, make some shit up and dump it on the blogs, pretty soon you've shaped perception.

Wait for somebody to make a Hitler rally comparison on mainstream news. Maybe they'll put a plant into a McCain speech with a swastika banner or something, and conveeeniently have somebody in exactly the right spot to photograph it before they get taken out. I figure we'll see this by Tuesday or Wednesday.

576 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:23pm

re: #544 Salamantis

Charles packs the Gon Jabbar.

Isn't that just Stinky Beaumont's Banning StickTM?

577 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:29pm

Catttster - sounds semi-cool.

578 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:41pm

Hrmmm.. teriyaki smoked salmon, pretzels, and horse radish goes really nice together, you wouldn't think it would.

579 Mrs. H  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:56:59pm

I'm happy to be registered. Thanks, Charles.

580 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:01pm

re: #572 stuiec

The other "little death" is sooo much nicer.

Ahh yesss...the proverbial and devoutly desired Petite Morte...

581 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:07pm

So who's watching the LSU/Florida game?

582 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:21pm

re: #554 Cognito

Delusional.

The great state of Louisiana grows crooked politicians in rows, fresh to the harvest each year.

[snip]

So stand down, sir. Stand down I say!

But LA has Jindal. IL has Blagojevich.

583 ClosetConservative  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:28pm

When I look at the raving anti-Bushites and the Obamanauts I see a lot of similarities. I have to wonder if some of these people don't just hate Bush, but responsible authority in general. Will they also, in time, come to hate Obama?

I mean, he's not responsible, but he could become an authority figure.

584 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:51pm

re: #579 Mrs. H

I'm happy to be registered. Thanks, Charles.

Welcome to LGF, Mrs. H.

585 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:51pm

re: #581 cliffster

So who's watching the LSU/Florida game?

Not me, but UT kicked OU's butt today! Woo!

586 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:53pm

re: #562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Time to join my wife in blissful slumber. (cue the pr0n music)...

Uh..bom-chicka-wow-wow

587 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:57:54pm

re: #411 Hapster

Gonna keep on keepin on. America will survive.

588 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:07pm

re: #551 Spellcheck

Saw this on the hillaryclintonforum about Monday's event -

Someone posted the RIR has a capacity of 112,000+ : )

That's odd. The media keep telling me that everyone HATES Palin and that McCain is on a flaming bobsled toward FAIL.

The media wouldn't be LYING, would they?
/

589 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:08pm

re: #581 cliffster

So who's watching the LSU/Florida game?

Me. My Florida home boyz are doin' good.

590 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:14pm

re: #578 Thanos

Thanos, I never knew you lived in KC. I thought you lived in Alaska, for some reason...

591 wright1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:22pm

re: #551 Spellcheck

Saw this on the hillaryclintonforum about Monday's event -


Someone posted the RIR has a capacity of 112,000+ : )

I am not surprised. I am of the opinion that the support for McCain/Palin is underreported and this election is far from over. I was talking to a Hispanic friend the other day who made it clear that if BHO thinks he has the Hispanic vote sown up -he is mistaken. Hispanics do not tend to vote for a candidate like Obama. Anecdotal? Sure. But quite possibly true.

592 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:32pm

re: #581 cliffster

So who's watching the LSU/Florida game?

Reine for sure. Who's winning?

593 NYCHardhat  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:37pm

re: #564 baxtrice

I noticed when I was in school and a prof said something that was slanted, I would have my retort and they would smile knowing I was right, but they were obligated to be liberal.

594 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:47pm

re: #582 arethusa

But LA has Jindal. IL has Blagojevich.

An aberration. But if he turns out to be dirty, won't it be the most brilliant dirty ever perpetrated?

595 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:58:55pm

re: #585 baxtrice

Not me, but UT kicked OU's butt today! Woo!

Watched every second. I'm thinking that was the game to decide the Heisman winner, and I like how it turned out. Couldn't believe how UT's secondary performed...

596 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:59:00pm

re: #575 Pawn of the Oppressor

amazing isn't it, "get in their faces" is okey dokey.
his booing crowds even today,
His Baiting evryone. divide and conquer tactics. all ignored.

597 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:59:05pm

re: #564 baxtrice

I'm in college now, and have already run across a few liberal profs that are trying to "indoctrinate" my conservative/libertarian mind. They don't like me after I basically shut them down after the first couple of weeks. *tee hee*

Good for you...and just so you know, not all us profs are like that. The ones who keep quiet about their politics in the classroom are usually the conservative ones.

598 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:59:07pm

re: #405 baxtrice

All the regulars acting like newbies are cracking me up.

It's the newbies acting like regulators that scare me.

599 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:59:26pm

What kind of education reform did Ayers & Obama have in mind? [Andy McCarthy]

You can draw plenty of rational inferences from Stanley's rich work. But for a clear statement of Ayers's frightening vision, I submit that his November 2006 speech at the World Education Forum should be required reading.

As Cornerites know, I've been arguing that our emphasis on Ayers's prior terrorism, while highly relevant, is not the essential point. The real issue is Ayers's revolutionary leftism (at around the time Ayers and Obama began working on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, by the way, Ayers described himself as "a radical, Leftist, small ‘c’ communist”).

Obama is clearly lying when he claims ignorance about Ayers's terrorism, but even if you wanted to pretend otherwise, it is impossible that he was in the dark about Ayers's revolutionary leftism: Ayers has never made a secret of it and can't seem to help himself from mentioning it about every 30 seconds. Obama not only knew about Ayers's views in this regard; he obviously subscribed to them: was a member of the Chicago New Party begun by the Democratic Socialists of America; he worked closely with Ayers on "education reform" for years, he approved of Ayers's similarly fringe-Left views of the criminal justice system's treatment of juvenile crime, and, we are learning; and he was tightly aligned with ACORN, which he and Ayers funded and whose practices fit comfortably with the Ayers view of "participatory democracy").

In any event, here are excerpts of Ayers's 2006 speech before Hugo Chavez and other assembled "comrades":

President Hugo Chavez, … invited guests, comrades. I’m honored and humbled to be here with you this morning. I bring greetings and support from your brothers and sisters throughout Northamerica [sic]! Welcome to the World Education Forum. Amamos la revolucion Bolivariana! ...

[M]y comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring fighter for justice … has taught me a great deal about the Bolivarian Revolution [i.e., Chavez's movement] and about the profound educational reforms underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I’ve come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle—I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane…. [For more information on the Venezuelan socialist Luis Bonilla-Montoya, see here.]

I began teaching when I was 20 yeas old in a small freedom school affiliated with the Civil Rights Movement in the United States. The year was 1965, and I’d been arrested in a demonstration. Jailed for ten days, I met several activists who were finding ways to link teaching and education with deep and fundamental social change. They were following Dewey and DuBois, King and Helen Keller who wrote: “We can’t have education without revolution. We have tried peace education for 1,900 years and it has failed. Let us try revolution and see what it will do now.”..


There's more...not good...at all...

600 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:59:35pm

re: #578 Thanos

Hrmmm.. teriyaki smoked salmon, pretzels, and horse radish goes really nice together, you wouldn't think it would.

When I was in a bowling league, we used to order pretzel sticks and cocktail sauce. We called it poor man's shrimp.

601 Moody leo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 7:59:44pm

re: #561 Cognito

I'm paraphrasing this but I heard about this in Baton rouge paper, I think
FBI guy says about corruption of La politicians "They skim the cream, drink the milk. steal the bottle, hijack the truck:...and they looking for the cow."

I love it, only state that's had 2 guys that ran for Governor against each other in jail at same time, Duke and Edwards

602 bcgirl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:00:09pm

re: #566 Gang of One

But who's gonna pay for all that?

/trick question


//no we don't have to worry about that,, obama will just do his majic and it will all be a ok

603 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:00:11pm

re: #589 Salamantis

Me. My Florida home boyz are doin' good.

Indeed they are; they're doing the swamp proud

604 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:00:43pm

re: #591 wright1
or the left coast union workers. are NOT sewn up, many are just piss'd and speaking of voting McCain.

605 IngisKahn  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:00:50pm

Here's my pics of Palin at the Flyers game:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

606 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:00:51pm

Missouri is going to lose any shot at #1.

Another TD by Oklahoma State...28-17 with 6:30 to go.

607 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:15pm

re: #366 willowone

i am barren . weeping. seriously how do you make one?

Go up to the top/left of the screen to "my Account" Log in.

In the section labeled "Icon", go to "Browse" and locate your picture or avatar in your files. It needs to be JPG, GIF, or PNG format, staying under 32k and import it.

"Upload" and "save".

Done.

608 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:25pm

re: #592 jorline

Reine for sure. Who's winning?

Is reine from Louisiana or Florida? LSU will receive their asses, shipped from Florida, in 4 to 6 weeks.

609 SpartanWoman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:30pm

re: #539 Honorary Yooper

That much, wow! It's down to $3.50/gallon here in Chicago's far SW 'burbs (Will, Kendall, and Grundy Counties), and crashing with each day. By the time I need gas on Monday, it may even be in the $3.30s to $3.20s here.

I paid 2.89 in NJ today!

610 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:30pm

re: #590 MrPaulRevere

Thanos, I never knew you lived in KC. I thought you lived in Alaska, for some reason...

I came of age in Alaska, my wife and I packed the wagon with the kids and headed south many years ago. It was an August and we got the usual rain that said winter was coming soon... we each quit our two jobs and haven't regretted it too much since. The first Christmas was the worse since a blown engine in Williams lake Canada ate up the bankroll.

611 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:33pm

Man, Ok. St. is about to upset Mizzou. Damn.

612 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:37pm

re: #593 NYCHardhat

I noticed when I was in school and a prof said something that was slanted, I would have my retort and they would smile knowing I was right, but they were obligated to be liberal.

They don't smile knowingly anymore, now they flat out silence you - or that's what happened to me. I called out the professor on his liberal bias and for the rest of the semester, my input into the class was ignored.

613 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:37pm

re: #601 Moody leo

I'm paraphrasing this but I heard about this in Baton rouge paper, I think
FBI guy says about corruption of La politicians "They skim the cream, drink the milk. steal the bottle, hijack the truck:...and they looking for the cow."

I love it, only state that's had 2 guys that ran for Governor against each other in jail at same time, Duke and Edwards

"Vote for the crook;
It's important"

614 shortred  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:39pm

I feel like I won at the lottery. Thank you, Mr. Johnson, for keeping the flow of information all these years. Northeastern Pa was leading for McCain; not so sure now. I do know two democrats who are definitely voting for McCain and would never in their wildest dreams voted for Bush.

615 Gearhead  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:40pm

re: #545 ploome hineni

...RACISM...

Wolf! Wolf! If they keep overusing it, no one will be able to tell when it really happens.

In wonder if disagreeing with Obama will still be legal in four years.

616 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:01:57pm

re: #583 ClosetConservative

When I look at the raving anti-Bushites and the Obamanauts I see a lot of similarities. I have to wonder if some of these people don't just hate Bush, but responsible authority in general. Will they also, in time, come to hate Obama?

I mean, he's not responsible, but he could become an authority figure.

yup, Obama will be hated within his first week of office, when the oceans do not begin to recede and communism does not immediately come into effect.

Actually, McCain pointed out in the first debate that in stubborness Obama wasa lot like Bush, and did we really want another 4 years of a man unwilling to change his mind about a bad policy? I thought it was a good point, but no one else seems to have picked up on it.

617 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:02:09pm

re: #574 arethusa

Another questionable Obama association. Must be Saturday.

You want the second paragraph: "I've been screaming into the abyss for some time about Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state treasurer that Obama endorsed when he ran for office despite no previous political experience, who has been personally mixed up with organized crime via business dealings with his family's bank."

At least it's on a national site. I read that on a Puma blog - it included the favors, the connections, and the payoffs. Somewhat speculative, but the dots are there.

Example:

The Giannoulias family was involved with Obama as far back as his first state senate campaign in 1996. It has been long rumored here in Chicago that Obama obtained a sweetheart deal on his first town home here in Chicago - which he could not have afforded otherwise - and guess who the financing came from for that house? We've been told it was Broadway Bank, the Giannoulias bank. Now, this sets up a scenario where the Giannoulias family helps Obama with his campaign finances and gets him deeper in their pocket with his sweetheart mortgage deal (for the first home he owned that he could not afford) - all in exchange for quid pro quo to be determined later.

618 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:02:29pm

re: #606 jorline

Missouri is going to lose any shot at #1.

Another TD by Oklahoma State...28-17 with 6:30 to go.

Oklahoma State are spoilers, each and every year. They'll never string together anything meaningful, but they always beat the teams that have a chance.

619 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:02:32pm

re: #607 Outrider thank you sir.

620 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:02:41pm

re: #608 cliffster

Is reine from Louisiana or Florida? LSU will receive their asses, shipped from Florida, in 4 to 6 weeks.

Baton Rouge, La. What's the score cliffster?

621 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:02:54pm

re: #595 cliffster

I didn't get to watch it, I was stuck in class. But my dad made sure to update me on the scores. :)

622 NYCHardhat  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:03pm

Good night all. Mac will prevail.

623 Truth or Consequences  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:06pm

test

624 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:30pm

re: #594 Cognito

An aberration. But if he turns out to be dirty, won't it be the most brilliant dirty ever perpetrated?

Yup. Course, if that happens, Biden would remind us that Jindal would be better managing a Dunkin' Donuts or 7-11.///

625 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:32pm

re: #620 jorline

Baton Rouge, La. What's the score cliffster?

41 to 14

Fer real.

626 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:42pm

re: #605 IngisKahn

Nice Pics. Former South Philly boy here now I am down the Shore. Hence the AC before my name.

627 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:47pm

re: #411 Hapster

ok - so here is my answer: IMPEACH him.

628 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:03:49pm

re: #620 jorline

Baton Rouge, La. What's the score cliffster?

41-14. Send my condolences; LSU is a great team and still has a good shot. They should keep playing hard and if they win out, they might still be in the big game.

629 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:02pm

re: #597 arethusa

Good for you...and just so you know, not all us profs are like that. The ones who keep quiet about their politics in the classroom are usually the conservative ones.

I know, I've had some libertarian and conservative profs as well. They're a blast. They're usually in the history department. I have fond memories. :)

630 David Simon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:04pm

re: #545 ploome hineni

From your link:

Late Saturday, Lewis released another statement saying it was not his "intention or desire" to directly compare McCain or Palin to Wallace.

"My statement was a reminder to all Americans that toxic language can lead to destructive behavior," he said.

Well, he's right about that. He need look no further than his own community to see the damage wrought by the likes of Wright, Sharpton, Jackass, Farrakhan et al.

631 Dasher  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:29pm

re: #623 Truth or Consequences

test

No testing allowed

632 Salamantis  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:40pm

41-14 in the beginning of the 4th quarter.

And watch the Texas Tech Red Raiders this year; they're gonna be giant-killing, too.

633 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:46pm

re: #621 baxtrice

I didn't get to watch it, I was stuck in class. But my dad made sure to update me on the scores. :)

Is that class at the winning school in question?

634 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:46pm

re: #605 IngisKahn

Here's my pics of Palin at the Flyers game:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

So, did they boo?

635 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:47pm

Sharmuta & Lawyer Lizards,

Does this really have any legs?

636 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:04:57pm

The Coming Obama Thugocracy
Attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals.

...Obama fans jammed WGN’s phone lines and sent in hundreds of protest emails. The message was clear to anyone who would follow Rosenberg’s example. We will make trouble for you if you let anyone make the case against The One.

Other Obama supporters have threatened critics with criminal prosecution. In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were “false.” I had been under the impression that the Alien and Sedition Acts had gone out of existence in 1801-02. Not so, apparently, in metropolitan St. Louis. Similarly, the Obama campaign called for a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Obama's ties to Ayers.

These attempts to shut down political speech have become routine for liberals. Congressional Democrats sought to reimpose the “fairness doctrine” on broadcasters, which until it was repealed in the 1980s required equal time for different points of view. The motive was plain: to shut down the one conservative-leaning communications medium, talk radio. Liberal talk-show hosts have mostly failed to draw audiences, and many liberals can’t abide having citizens hear contrary views. ...

Once upon a time, liberals prided themselves, with considerable reason, as the staunchest defenders of free speech. Union organizers in the 1930s and 1940s made the case that they should have access to employees to speak freely to them, and union leaders like George Meany and Walter Reuther were ardent defenders of the First Amendment.

Today’s liberals seem to be taking their marching orders from other quarters. Specifically, from the college and university campuses where administrators, armed with speech codes, have for years been disciplining and subjecting to sensitivity training any students who dare to utter thoughts that liberals find offensive. The campuses that used to pride themselves as zones of free expression are now the least free part of our society.

Obama supporters who found the campuses congenial and Obama himself, who has chosen to live all his adult life in university communities, seem to find it entirely natural to suppress speech that they don't like and seem utterly oblivious to claims that this violates the letter and spirit of the First Amendment. In this campaign, we have seen the coming of the Obama thugocracy, suppressing free speech, and we may see its flourishing in the four or eight years ahead.

637 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:05:03pm

re: #446 arethusa

i.e., stupidity, not corruption,

The ex-mayor of our biggest city is preparing to serve a jail term. His mommy will win re-election without a problem in a gerrymandered district that marginalizes suburbanites. The Governor is a completely inept Canadian lib. Our senior US Representative is an geriatric with a failed brain.

Corruption and stupidity go together.

638 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:05:09pm

re: #582 arethusa

But LA has Jindal. IL has Blagojevich.

And Illinois has had more governors indicted and have served jail time than Louisiana. Louisiana has Edwards. We have Ryan, Small, Walker, and Kerner. Two Dems, two Reps, and three have served jail time (Walker [D], Kerner [D], and Ryan [R]).

Blago's next on the indictment and jail time lists.

639 sidtara  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:05:17pm

41 to 14, with 12 min to go. They haven't finished killing us yet.

640 Marlin925  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:05:21pm

Thank you for the thank yous for service, but don't forget you pay my paycheck! Had to fight a bit to put up my avatar, it matches my username & has seen some use in a tree-rat jihad.

641 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:05:22pm

re: #623 Truth or Consequences

test

Welcome to LFG, TorC...first post test?

642 missviolin  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:05:27pm

re: #466 arethusa

He's a guy from my high school in Indianawho just got back from Iraq in may. A good guy who's trying to communicate with people on the indy star website. I keep telling him where to go to get meaningful conversations but he seems to find his family more important! Just doing a favor for him since he loves Cj's posts.
He is no Obi fan! Trust me!

643 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:03pm

re: #629 baxtrice

I know, I've had some libertarian and conservative profs as well. They're a blast. They're usually in the history department. I have fond memories. :)

Why is that? Why are liberals so loud-mouthed, and conservatives so content in their own beliefs?

644 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:18pm

re: #610 Thanos

Thanks, I knew there was Alaska connection there somewhere. A strange town Kansas City is. Half of it is dysfunctional and the other half functions quite well.

645 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:19pm

re: #635 Syrah

Yes- it's been discussed for a couple days now. ACORN offices have been raided, rezco is singing, and some PUMA blogs are all over it.

646 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:40pm

re: #633 cliffster

Is that class at the winning school in question?

Almost..except our campus is kind of the red headed step child.

647 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:41pm

re: #628 cliffster

41-14. Send my condolences; LSU is a great team and still has a good shot. They should keep playing hard and if they win out, they might still be in the big game.

WOW...tough butt whipping.

648 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:42pm

re: #618 cliffster

Oklahoma State are spoilers, each and every year. They'll never string together anything meaningful, but they always beat the teams that have a chance.

My heroes have always been Cowboys
And they still are, it seems
Sadly in search of
And one step in back of
Themselves, and their slow-movin' dreams...

/sing it, Willie

649 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:49pm

re: #635 Syrah

Sharmuta & Lawyer Lizards,

Does this really have any legs?

That's the worst piece of spin I've seen in a long time?

Clintons file suit against Obama?

Please.

650 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:54pm

Syrah- see this:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

651 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:06:56pm

re: #623 Truth or Consequences

test

FAIL!

652 Catttt  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:07:15pm

re: #601 Moody leo

I'm paraphrasing this but I heard about this in Baton rouge paper, I think
FBI guy says about corruption of La politicians "They skim the cream, drink the milk. steal the bottle, hijack the truck:...and they looking for the cow."

I love it, only state that's had 2 guys that ran for Governor against each other in jail at same time, Duke and Edwards

My roomie at college in New Orleans (gorgeous redhead) was dating an Edwards relative, and apparently had sex with Mr. Edwards during his first run for gov. There was a big to-do, she broke up with her boyfriend, there was a lot of crying and such. Then I got a call at 5 a.m. from Mrs. Edwards, threatening me in this awful, sweet voice. Crazy as a loon, she was. Crazy family.

653 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:07:30pm

re: #612 baxtrice

They don't smile knowingly anymore, now they flat out silence you - or that's what happened to me. I called out the professor on his liberal bias and for the rest of the semester, my input into the class was ignored.

If it is any consolation this isn't new. I've been encountering this behavior since I was in High School starting in '68. Almost all my college professors were the same, even on military bases, (except for the active duty instructors working part time)

654 IngisKahn  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:07:32pm

re: #634 arethusa

So, did they boo?

There were a few to be sure, but Philly can recognize a true friend of hockey. Even saw some McCain Palin signs in the crowd.

655 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:07:52pm

re: #643 cliffster

Why is that? Why are liberals so loud-mouthed, and conservatives so content in their own beliefs?

If I could answer that, I'd be a millionaire and Conservatives would be ahead in the polls.

656 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:07:53pm

re: #625 Cognito

41 to 14

Fer real.

Thanks, Cog...how are you tonight?

/hiding from reine

657 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:07:56pm

re: #644 MrPaulRevere

Thanks, I knew there was Alaska connection there somewhere. A strange town Kansas City is. Half of it is dysfunctional and the other half functions quite well.

Yes, and I'm not going to say which not knowing which side of State st that you live on...

658 Truth or Consequences  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:08:03pm

re: #599 J.D.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

Yes, they have discovered brainwashing the little ones is much easier, safer, and more productive than bombings.

659 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:08:16pm

Hi newbs...

by the way...

This should be the only type of thing putting "a tingle up your leg".
(ok..well, maybe not the only...)

660 wright1  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:08:20pm

re: #605 IngisKahn

Here's my pics of Palin at the Flyers game:
[Link: www.flickr.com...]


Nice pics but as I said in the previous thread, bonehead move to put her in that environment. Flyers fans have made many a person look foolish including Santa Claus...the campaign continues to make stupid decisions - they are really testing our patience.

661 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:08:58pm

re: #657 Thanos

I used to beg my gran to drive down the middle of State Line Road.

662 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:08:58pm

Old friends say drugs played bit part in Obama’s young life

Mr. Obama’s account of his younger self and drugs, though, significantly differs from the recollections of others who do not recall his drug use. That could suggest he was so private about his usage that few people were aware of it, that the memories of those who knew him decades ago are fuzzy or rosier out of a desire to protect him, or that he added some writerly touches in his memoir to make the challenges he overcame seem more dramatic.

Because, like most drug users, he hides it. I still want a hair sample.

/I know, why don't we just give him the highest national security clearance possible, what could go wrong?

663 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:08:59pm

re: #619 willowone

thank you sir.

Very welcome. Thank Charles-his playground. ;-)>

664 PSGInfinity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:02pm

re: #622 NYCHardhat

Good night all. Mac will prevail.

Agreed. Here's hoping McCain wins as well...

665 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:19pm

re: #635 Syrah

Sharmuta & Lawyer Lizards,

Does this really have any legs?

Maybe. Fitz investigated ACORN in Illinois already.

666 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:28pm

re: #656 jorline

Thanks, Cog...how are you tonight?

/hiding from reine

Tumbling into the financial abyss, here.

C'est la vie.

667 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:28pm

re: #505 Opilio

About $3.30 in AZ.

$2.56 here.

668 Moody leo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:33pm

re: #652 Cattt


I'll bet.

669 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:09:36pm

TD Missouri

670 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:10:01pm

re: #653 Outrider

If it is any consolation this isn't new. I've been encountering this behavior since I was in High School starting in '68. Almost all my college professors were the same, even on military bases, (except for the active duty instructors working part time)

What's funny is that I'm in the "Arts" department. Bwahahaha! I'm after a degree in Graphic Arts and talk about Liberal overload! Apparently only liberals and leftists are creative artistic types. /sarcasm

671 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:10:05pm

re: #658 Truth or Consequences

Yes, they have discovered brainwashing the little ones is much easier, safer, and more productive than bombings.

Glad my son got out of college unscathed and with "only" his car keyed for having on a W bumper sticker. They didn't seem to appreciate that.

672 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:10:40pm

re: #661 Sharmuta

I used to beg my gran to drive down the middle of State Line Road.

It's funny because there's an odd thing about police jurisdiction there, I don't remember which state gets all the way to other state's sidewalk.

673 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:10:43pm

re: #646 baxtrice

Almost..except our campus is kind of the red headed step child.

Well they're all good campuses.

674 IngisKahn  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:10:54pm

re: #660 wright1

Nice pics but as I said in the previous thread, bonehead move to put her in that environment. Flyers fans have made many a person look foolish including Santa Claus...the campaign continues to make stupid decisions - they are really testing our patience.

Really? Sounded mostly like cheers from where I was. And hey, Santa was drunk!

675 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:11:02pm

Wow, Mizzou just scored a TD. Two-pt. conversion failed. Down 4 pts. Four plus mins. left.

676 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:11:09pm

re: #670 baxtrice

That's my field. There are some of us conservatives around, still.

677 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:11:14pm

re: #565 Karridine

Because they are often transliterations of the same root expression/name?

Heh!

678 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:11:15pm

re: #662 Killian Bundy

Old friends say drugs played bit part in Obama’s young life

Because, like most drug users, he hides it. I still want a hair sample.

/I know, why don't we just give him the highest national security clearance possible, what could go wrong?

Just remember, Bush is a white-knuckle drunk.
/Martin Sheen

679 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:11:46pm

re: #649 Cognito

That's the worst piece of spin I've seen in a long time?

Clintons file suit against Obama?

Please.

Spin nothing. They don't like him, Cog. It is to their advantage that McCain wins so they can put Hillary back up for 2012.

Worst piece of spin I saw was the Palin story this morning. It's utter bullshit that she can be in the right and the wrong at the same time. She did the right thing, IMHO.

680 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:12:05pm

Mizzou scored TD. Within 4 points. All might be well with the world. Only 4:30 left thought.

681 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:12:08pm

hmm

682 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:12:53pm

re: #681 willowone

hmm

hmm what?

683 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:12:57pm

re: #643 cliffster

Why is that? Why are liberals so loud-mouthed, and conservatives so content in their own beliefs?

My theory on politics in academia is that conservative academics have applied the same principles of their scholarship to their political beliefs, i.e., logic, which usually leads to conservatism. So, they're secure in those beliefs and feel little need to proselytize. Liberal academics, however, remember their nerdy, unpopular days in high school and simply jump on the prevailing liberal bandwagon in academia so they can be popular, too. This means advertisement. And the same liberals will not espouse unpopular causes (like the preservation of Israel) because that's like the nerdy friends they had in high school who helped keep them unpopular.

I speak from 17 years' experience.

684 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:13:26pm

re: #679 Honorary Yooper

Did you see this yet?

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

ACORN is going to take 0bama down, folks.

685 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:13:35pm

re: #666 Cognito

Tumbling into the financial abyss, here.

C'est la vie.

Aren't we all...have faith and remember your ten year stock averages...lol

/Crap, Cog...you have double trouble...you posted #666

686 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:13:50pm

re: #662 Killian Bundy

Old friends say drugs played bit part in Obama’s young life


Because, like most drug users, he hides it. I still want a hair sample.

/I know, why don't we just give him the highest national security clearance possible, what could go wrong?

I trust him so much, I think he should have command authority over our nuclear stockpile. I mean, sure, that puts him one phone call away from potentially killing millions, but I have HOPE!

/

687 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:09pm

re: #684 Sharmuta

Did you see this yet?

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

ACORN is going to take 0bama down, folks.

We don't dare hope...

688 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:19pm

re: #662 Killian Bundy

Old friends say drugs played bit part in Obama’s young life

Because, like most drug users, he hides it. I still want a hair sample.

/I know, why don't we just give him the highest national security clearance possible, what could go wrong?

In fact, we have long-standing laws in-place FORBIDDING security clearance to ANYONE who has used or abused drugs...

And for a good reason!

Now, would all those carefully considered restrictions and prohibitions be swept away in order to let a drug-twisted Obama work as president? Would he then be able to acquire and use 'the BEST cocaine ever', all day long, to help him in his deliberations of whether or not he's PRESENT today?

689 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:26pm

re: #640 Marlin925

Thank you for the thank yous for service, but don't forget you pay my paycheck! Had to fight a bit to put up my avatar, it matches my username & has seen some use in a tree-rat jihad.

Kinda figgered. I have a 7000 which is a bull barrel version of the 795. It tends to terminate a lot of masked thieves that wander arround. Last night we had visitation form a pack of three.

690 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:28pm

re: #643 cliffster

Why is that? Why are liberals so loud-mouthed, and conservatives so content in their own beliefs?

confidence and assurance in the case of the latter. Lack of same in the case of the former.

691 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:28pm

re: #673 cliffster

Oh yeah, no doubt, but I can't really claim myself as a Longhorn, but I am like a second cousin, so to speak. :)

692 Little Doxie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:32pm

Thanks for all the tips everyone, I would try the reply/quote thingy but I think I will end the day on a happy note no sense being the bad apple of
the newbies.

I'd like to shout out to all the Cheezeheads here, especially Mama Winger
who I greatly admire. I hope like heck something turns here in Wisconsin
for McCain, there is a lot of silent support but we have ACORN and ignorance to overcome.

Night all:)

693 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:35pm

re: #678 Palandine

Just remember, Bush is a white-knuckle drunk.
/Martin Sheen

Martin Sheen never did get over calling in the air strike in Apocalypse Now.

694 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:51pm

re: #682 J.D.
i was checking to see if an avatar i tried to stick appeared, It Did Not. blast it all.

695 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:14:57pm

re: #687 J.D.

We don't dare hope...

So I've noticed.

696 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:15:43pm

re: #684 Sharmuta

Did you see this yet?

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

ACORN is going to take 0bama down, folks.

They might be the straw, but they have some help. Rev Wright, banking Fannie Mae, Bill Ayers, common sense...

697 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:15:50pm

re: #676 jaunte

I know, I'm interning while I'm in school and there's a couple that I know of. But of course, they're too professional to be forcing their views on everyone.

698 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:15:55pm

re: #694 willowone

i was checking to see if an avatar i tried to stick appeared, It Did Not. blast it all.


Still the football...

re: #695 Sharmuta

So I've noticed.

hmmm?

699 OldLineTexan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:16:09pm

re: #682 J.D.

hmm what?

Oh Lord, she's probably using her measuring stick...

700 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:16:19pm

re: #677 solomonpanting

Oh, that's a hoot, Solomon! "Candidates are John McCain and Barack OSAMA" :D

701 Hapster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:16:29pm

re: #683 arethusa

most libs have fragile personalities - they always 'feel' too much and are gutless enough to be honest with themselves. That reflects in a constant need to justify their thoughts and actions. inner dissatisfaction and weakness on display.

702 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:16:44pm

re: #698 J.D.

Just that there is so much defeatism going around. The left loves to see us feeling that way.

703 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:16:46pm

re: #699 OldLineTexan

Oh Lord, she's probably using her measuring stick...


Oh, no.
Was I racist again somehow? It doesn't take much these days, y'know...

704 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:17:06pm

re: #684 Sharmuta

Did you see this yet?

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

ACORN is going to take 0bama down, folks.

Parts of it. ACORN is Obama's Achillies heel. They have a reputation, even amongst progressives, for being dirty. Even if Obama gets elected, he may be in trouble before innaguration day due to ACORN and related investigations.

705 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:17:11pm

OS shanked the punt...Mizzou gets the ball with 2:40 left

706 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:17:31pm

re: #693 Cartman

Martin Sheen never did get over calling in the air strike in Apocalypse Now.

And yet Dennis Hopper became a conservative...

"We're trying to SAVE the Ten Commandments."
/An American Carol

707 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:17:39pm

re: #684 Sharmuta
WOW

708 baxtrice  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:17:45pm

Well I'm off to have a good hot cup of coffee at the local Truck Stop and visit some old friends.

Welcome New Lizards.

709 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:17:58pm

re: #702 Sharmuta

Just that there is so much defeatism going around. The left loves to see us feeling that way.


Well McCain had better get way more fired up than he is right now.

710 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:03pm

re: #181 Killgore Trout

You go to the store and buy a sack of potatoes for a few bucks. You peel them, boil, drain and mash them. You add a little cream and seasoning, steam a vegetable and you have the start of an inexpensive, healthy, filling meal.


Corrected version:

You go to the store and find it is out of business. You go to another store, and another, and another, until you find one that is still open.

You look for a sack of potatoes. There are no potatoes: the farmers couldn't afford to bring them to market at current prices, so they plowed them back under. You go to another store, and another, and another.

You find a store that is open and has some potatoes in stock. They're large and of fine quality. You fill a sack with ten pounds of them and take them to the checkout.

"How much," you ask.

"Ten pounds, ten dollars," the clerk says.

"Gee," you say, "I'd have thought they'd be cheaper nowadays."

"If you can find them at some other place for less, be my guest," sneers the clerk.

"No, no," you say, "I'll take these. Ten bucks?" And you reach for your wallet.

And then you remember that you haven't worked in six months, and you don't have ten bucks in your wallet -- hell, you don't have ten bucks to your name.

You leave the potatoes on the checkout counter and run out of the store, ashamed that you can't provide even plain starch for your family's dinner table. But you stop just outside the door of the store and think of something.

You go around the back of the store to the alley where the dumpsters are. There you find some potatoes, and other vegetables. Sure, they're shriveled, mushy, rotten -- but you take them anyway.

You get home and wash and pare away the most rotten parts, being careful not to throw out any bits that are still at all edible. You cut up the usable pieces and put them in a pot, add some water, and set them on the stove.

That's when you discover that your power and gas have been cut off. Seems they ran out of patience at the gas and electric company, what with you not having paid the bill in months.

You take some scrap wood in the backyard and make a fire to cook your vegetables. Cream? Butter? Luxuries distantly remembered from... from before all this. You're thankful to have a little salt.

Best not to mash the vegetables -- that would mean throwing out the cooking water. And you need that liquid to fill your family's bellies.

You resolve that, since you ate today, tomorrow would be better spent in trying to find work. Maybe, if you're lucky, you'll eat again in a couple of days.

And those dollar-a-pound potatoes: who buys those? The people who were fully liquid when the crash occurred, the people who run essential businesses, the lucky few who remain employed. They can afford the best, and settle for nothing less. No one can afford second-best or middling quality, and so no one produces it anymore.


Man, sounds like a socialist utopia to me!

711 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:03pm

re: #704 Honorary Yooper

I don't think he's going to be elected.

712 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:08pm

re: #691 baxtrice

Oh yeah, no doubt, but I can't really claim myself as a Longhorn, but I am like a second cousin, so to speak. :)

Well, that puts you in the greatest state in the union.. good for you! Could be a Roadrunner, could be out in the desert in the West. Either way, keep up the good work!

713 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:22pm

re: #686 Pawn of the Oppressor

I trust him so much, I think he should have command authority over our nuclear stockpile. I mean, sure, that puts him one phone call away from potentially killing millions, but I have HOPE!

/

/he's much more likely to unilaterally disarm us to pay for kindergarten sex education

714 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:32pm

re: #699 OldLineTexan
laughing. don't be shy .

715 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:51pm

Ballgame.

716 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:18:59pm

re: #686 Pawn of the Oppressor

I trust him so much, I think he should have command authority over our nuclear stockpile. I mean, sure, that puts him one phone call away from potentially killing millions, but I have HOPE!

/

remember this?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

717 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:19:15pm

Interception in Mizzou's last-ditch drive. 3-int's for Chase Daniels. ouch.

718 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:19:19pm

re: #704 Honorary Yooper

Parts of it. ACORN is Obama's Achillies heel. They have a reputation, even amongst progressives, for being dirty. Even if Obama gets elected, he may be in trouble before innaguration day due to ACORN and related investigations.

Now THERE'S a scenario that could trigger Civil War: Obama is 'elected' on questionable votes, arraigned on reasonable suspicion, and BLAMMO! Ship hits the sand...

719 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:19:26pm

re: #710 stuiec

I regret that I have but one upding to give.

720 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:21:08pm

re: #700 Karridine

Oh, that's a hoot, Solomon! "Candidates are John McCain and Barack OSAMA" :D

Maybe they meant to say:

Candidates are McCain/Palin and Barack/Osama

721 summergurl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:21:19pm
BREAKING: Word in Chicago: Patrick Fitzgerald heading RICO investigation of ACORN and BHO campaign

Posted on Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:40:53 AM by Anti-Hillary

Tonight we talked to someone who works in the federal courts here in Chicago.

The buzz in those corridors is that federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has been leading a team of FBI investigators in 10 states working on a RICO case.

Today, it was announced that ACORN is being investigated in 10 states.

That’s one heck of a coincidence.

We asked why Fitzgerald would be involved in this, because he’s the prosecutor on the Tony Rezko case and we aren’t aware of ACORN being investigated in Illinois.

We were told that ACORN was investigated in Illinois years ago, and it was a Fitzgerald case then. This means ACORN’s activities today, involving a conspiracy to commit multi-state voter fraud on SoetorObama’s behalf, are an extension of that previous ACORN case.

Our source in federal courts said, “Any crime that involves more than two people and is carried out across state lines qualifies as a corrupt organization. The fact that those “Goodwill” donations were made in Texas and received at Obama headquarters in Chicago or Washington means it qualifies for RICO.”

The “Goodwill donations” referred to above are the $228 million in undocumented, unverified campaign contributions the Obama camp has received — which the McCain campaigned filed a complaint to the FEC on this past Monday.

We’ve also heard that the Clinton campaign filed complaints to the FBI and other federal agencies over Obama’s fraud in the Iowa, Texas and other caucuses: voter intimidation, registration fraud, and other illegal activities.

The last thing we were told tonight in regards to all of this was that “the memo here is a tying together of all these various threads. That’s what you will see in the last weeks of the campaign: all things being tied together”.

If everything rumored here is true, it looks like David Axelrod, Howard Dean, Donna Brazile, Obama himself, and possibly even Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid were all involved, together, in massive RICO violations, and thus federal fraud, if the DNC and party leadership knew what the Obama campaign and ACORN were up to and allowed it to proceed. Knowledge of federal crimes being committed makes all parties accessories to those crimes — and part of the conspiracy to defraud the public.


So what do you guys think? True or not? You think Hill will come back in and sweep it all up?

722 Outrider  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:21:26pm

re: #670 baxtrice

What's funny is that I'm in the "Arts" department. Bwahahaha! I'm after a degree in Graphic Arts and talk about Liberal overload! Apparently only liberals and leftists are creative artistic types. /sarcasm

seems that way as a rule. I remember getting into a pissing contest about the VN War with my art teacher in high school and getting bounced out because I objected to her rants. My point then is what in the hell did the war have to do with charcoal drawings and why was she wasting our time on non-subject matters. She didn't see my point-the principal did. As did Dad, fortunately. ;-)>

Good luck on your degree!

723 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:21:29pm

re: #660 wright1

Nice pics but as I said in the previous thread, bonehead move to put her in that environment. Flyers fans have made many a person look foolish including Santa Claus...the campaign continues to make stupid decisions - they are really testing our patience.

How does a crowd booing Palin and her daughters make her look foolish? It makes the crowd look boorish. It makes her look gracious to be willing to enter what was likely to enter a hostile arena. It reflects poorly on Philadelphia and (some) Philadelphians, not Palin or the campaign.

724 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:22:20pm

re: #716 nightintheruts

remember this?

[Link: www.politico.com...]

I totally believe the guy. I only wish he hadn't expressed it quite the way he did - more people might have taken it seriously, and it could be used in ads.

725 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:22:32pm

re: #492 David Simon

Looks great, thank you!

726 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:22:44pm

re: #711 Sharmuta

I don't think he's going to be elected.

I don't think so either, but one must be prepared for anything.

A side note, I see lots of McCain signs in town, and found only two lonely Obama signs in front of two different houses. Their only company being the local races. If other places are like this, then maybe there is more of a chance then we as defeatists think.

Perk up, folks, the fat lady has not sung yet, and the votes yet to be counted.

727 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:22:44pm

Sharmuta is right about rampant defeatism. And it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if we give in to it. I for one will not.

728 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:22:55pm

Keep your avatars under 32k, read the rules (at the top of each thread), and clean up your own egg shells.

729 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:22:57pm

Sharm, just for you:
Men are like...
1. Men are like Laxatives They irritate the crap out of you.
2. Men are like. Bananas . The older they get, the less firm they are.
3. Men are like Weather Nothing can be done to change them.
4. Men are like Blenders You need One, but you're not quite sure why
5. Men are like Chocolate Bars .. Sweet, smooth, & they usually head right for your hips
6. Men are like Commercials . You can't believe a word they say.
7. Men are like Department Stores ... Their clothes are always 1/2 off!
8. Men are like . Government Bonds ... They take sooo long to mature.
9. Men are like . Mascara . They usually run at the first sign of emotion.
10. Men are like Popcorn They satisfy you, but only for a little while.
11. Men are like Snowstorms . You never know when they're coming, how many inches you'll get or how long it will last.
12. Men are like Lava Lamps . Fun to look at, but not very bright.
13. Men are like Parking Spots All the good ones are taken, the rest are handicapped.

730 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:26pm

re: #721 summergurl

What do I think? I have always believed there would be hell to pay for crossing Hillary.

731 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:31pm

Interesting. Rezko refused bail.

Why?

732 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:35pm

re: #721 summergurl

So what do you guys think? True or not? You think Hill will come back in and sweep it all up?

I say stop teasing and put up or shut up.

/24 days and ticking

733 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:36pm

re: #711 Sharmuta

have you seen this evelyn pringle , liberal oped news journalist, her site has also gone missing from du.[Link: rezkowatch.blogspot.com...]

no one is allowed to Look his way without threats

734 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:36pm

A SILENCE ON TERROR
CANDIDATES WON'T NAME ENEMY

HERE'S a wake-up call for a nation at war: We've had all but one of the presidential debates, plus the veep debate - without once hearing the words "Islamic terrorism."

Seven years after 9/11, we still seem to be debating whether it's polite to name our enemy directly. Worse, the emerging consensus seems to be "no."

That is not a good sign. How is the next leader of the free world going to solve a problem he can't even name?

Yes, the economy is by far the most urgent issue - but that doesn't make the war any less serious.

In their first debate, meant to center on foreign policy, John McCain and Barack Obama focused on the tactical fronts (Iraq, Afghanistan and the cold war with Iran) or specific enemies (al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hezbollah). But neither mentioned the underlying geo-strategic conflict between Western civilization and jihadism.

As dissident and exile Ayaan Hirsi Ali told me, "The presidential candidates are focused on military and intelligence positions, but I patiently wait for them to define the ideology they are going up against - because it's also a war of ideas. . . The collectivist Islamist system is not just wrong, but opposed to the American way of life."

This skittishness about naming our enemy directly is consistent with the 20-plus debates of the Democratic primaries, where discomfort with saying "Islamic terrorism" led to its absence from the dialogue.

Which raises the question: Who are we afraid of offending?

For clarity's sake, consider the term coined by former New York Sun reporter Eli Lake: "Islamic supremacists." It fairly describes the enemy's violent intolerance of difference and absolutist worldview - and shouldn't offend mainstream Muslims any more than "white supremacists" offends white people.

Since the opening hours of this war, US officials have strenuously emphasized that our enemy is not Islam, but Islamist terrorists. America's millions of Muslim citizens are vital allies in this effort - evidence of freedom's opportunities for equality and success.

And we've formed (sometimes uneasy) coalitions with Arab countries that face a similar existential threat from fundamentalists who want to restore the caliphate. The Anbar Awakening of Sunni tribal leaders in Iraq against al Qaeda was evidence of this approach's success.

But the next president has far more work to do before we can begin to declare victory.

Yet, as we've made some progress in finding common cause abroad, we've splintered at home. The Bush administration squandered the spirit of unity after 9/11 through the invasion of Iraq, making the wider War on Terror a source of partisan polarization in the 2004 campaign. And Democrats had an equal and opposite reaction - demagoguing the issue, demonizing the administration and dooming the prospect of bipartisan cooperation.

Now "9/11 Democrats" have been forced underground. Joe Lieberman's support for the war triggered an outright rebellion in his own party; he lost a primary as a result. He won re-election as an independent because party activists don't speak for most citizens. But now he's supporting McCain - and his fellow Democratic senators threaten to strip him of his committee chairmanship when Congress reconvenes.

Reuniting the country to win the wider war against Islamic terrorism is one of the great challenges facing the next president. And it's got to happen - because this challenge won't go away if we ignore it.

The seven years since 9/11 have seen no less than 14 attempted terrorist attacks in America. Our success in stopping them has lulled us into a false comfort, but we can't wait for an attack to succeed to remind us of the threat we face. Our domestic political differences are absurd in our enemies' eyes.
...

735 Marlin925  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:48pm

re: #637 Mich-again: "The ex-mayor of our biggest city is preparing to serve a jail term. His mommy will win re-election without a problem in a gerrymandered district that marginalizes suburbanites. The Governor is a completely inept Canadian lib. Our senior US Representative is an geriatric with a failed brain."

Oh yeah, Kwame Thugpatrick. Graduation rate for inner city Detroit youths is at a mighty 22% and all of Detroit's problems are due to the rassis' white people in the surrounding 'burbs.

If we could have given Detroit away last Gubinatorial race, we could have sent the Cannuck packing.

Clue to the Union clowns running the dishonest ads regarding McCain giving tax breaks to businesses going from Michigan to China, they actualy went to places like Alabama because the Canadian economic genius taxed them out of the State.

736 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:49pm

re: #727 MrPaulRevere

Sharmuta is right about rampant defeatism. And it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy if we give in to it. I for one will not.

Thank you!

737 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:23:54pm

re: #662 Killian Bundy

Do you know whose life drugs play a CENTRAL part in? George Soros's.

Here in Calif., he's sponsoring yet another drug-related measure, this one to "divert" drug offenders out of state prisons. Nice in theory, but not very healthy for the folks who will be burgled, mugged and robbed to support the drug habits of all those "non-violent" offenders.

Soros is a leading mover behind drug legalization. And I imagine that is part of Obama's appeal to him.

738 Thanos  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:24:17pm

Pastorius if you are out there I answered your Q to the best of my ability now that I'm two cognacs into the evening.

739 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:24:23pm

re: #721 summergurl

So what do you guys think? True or not? You think Hill will come back in and sweep it all up?

I would prefer a Clinton surprise in which she takes the Dem nomination away from Obama and goes on to win the Presidency rather than an Obama administration. Better the devil you know and all..

740 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:24:53pm

Steyn on the Corner is using this song to describe Obama:

"He gets his shirts straight from Paris
Cigarettes from the Nile
He talks like a highbrow
But he plays Chicago style..."

741 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:24:58pm

re: #723 Opilio

How does a crowd booing Palin and her daughters make her look foolish? It makes the crowd look boorish. It makes her look gracious to be willing to enter what was likely to enter a hostile arena. It reflects poorly on Philadelphia and (some) Philadelphians, not Palin or the campaign.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. They even boo Santa Claus in Philly.

742 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:25:04pm

re: #711 Sharmuta

I don't think he's going to be elected.

But he may still steal it. He is after all Chicago style.

743 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:26:03pm

re: #731 godfrey

Interesting. Rezko refused bail.

Why?

Tony Soprano is waiting down the street.

744 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:26:08pm

re: #733 willowone

have you seen this evelyn pringle , liberal oped news journalist, her site has also gone missing from du.[Link: rezkowatch.blogspot.com...]

no one is allowed to Look his way without threats

That's where the Clintons have an advantage, no? Bill's a former president- good luck threatening him.

745 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:26:52pm

re: #731 godfrey

Interesting. Rezko refused bail.

Why?

If he took bail, he's a dead man walking. Going into federal custody was the safest course he could take. Otherwise, he would've met a Vince Foster type fate.

Welcome to The Chicago Way, folks.

746 nightwatch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:27:56pm

DAMN! power surge...

lets try again...

WELCOME FNG's 1st assignment,

Name me 1 direct relation of the "O" that served in the United States Military. (All SORASS funded tweaking of the WIKKE will be thrown out)

U have 30 seconds...

Have fun campers!

747 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:03pm

re: #744 Sharmuta
true, but this is such a wild and wacky election..still i expect McCain to keep coming with the truth, G-d love him.

748 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:10pm

re: #735 Marlin925

Clue to the Union clowns running the dishonest ads regarding McCain giving tax breaks to businesses going from Michigan to China, they actualy went to places like Alabama because the Canadian economic genius taxed them out of the State.

Lots of truth there. The Chinese automotive industry does not import to the USA. Not yet at least.

749 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:11pm

re: #741 Honorary Yooper

I wouldn't worry too much about it. They even boo Santa Claus in Philly.

Someone above was at the game and said there were a few boos, but most everyone was good. There were even McCain-Palin signs.

750 Truth or Consequences  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:11pm

re: #684 Sharmuta

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

Thank You for that!

751 reine.de.tout  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:15pm

re: #656 jorline

Thanks, Cog...how are you tonight?

/hiding from reine

ah, don't hide.
I quit watching or listening to that game.
I could no longer stand the Roi yelling at the TV.

752 jaunte  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:16pm

re: #740 arethusa

Chicago Style: Here's a video:

753 Adina in Judea  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:18pm

Obama is such a disgrace. He's already a threat to democracy in the U.S. while only running for President.

Pennsylvania seems to be saying that they can't guarantee a fair election in their state. At what point do other states start chiming in that their ability to conduct a fair election has been destroyed beyond repair for November 4th?

If the election has been compromised beyond repair for a November 4th deadline, is there anything that can be done about this?

754 yochanan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:28:48pm

re: #670 baxtrice

What's funny is that I'm in the "Arts" department. Bwahahaha! I'm after a degree in Graphic Arts and talk about Liberal overload! Apparently only liberals and leftists are creative artistic types. /sarcasm

got my MFA IN PRINTMAKING AND BOOK ARTS
SO I am not the only lizard in the arts. WHO KNEW?

755 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:29:08pm

re: #746 nightwatch

DAMN! power surge...

lets try again...

WELCOME FNG's 1st assignment,

Name me 1 direct relation of the "O" that served in the United States Military. (All SORASS funded tweaking of the WIKKE will be thrown out)

U have 30 seconds...

Have fun campers!

His grandpa liberated Auschwitz!
/oh, wait, no, he didn't

756 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:29:57pm

re: #750 Truth or Consequences

You're welcome!

757 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:30:01pm

re: #531 Killgore Trout

Ah. Well I ignored my seed catalogs when they came this year, but I still have them- I'd like to grow some Roma tomatoes, I wonder how they do indoors.

Thanks for the info.

758 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:30:07pm

Richard Daley Sr. sent the police after the Weathermen, and Richard Daley Jr. gives their ringleader 'Citizen of the year' honors...sigh.

759 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:30:14pm

re: #746 nightwatch

DAMN! power surge...

lets try again...

WELCOME FNG's 1st assignment,

Name me 1 direct relation of the "O" that served in the United States Military. (All SORASS funded tweaking of the WIKKE will be thrown out)

U have 30 seconds...

Have fun campers!

Didn't his uncle liberate Auschwitz with Patton's army?

760 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:30:15pm

re: #724 arethusa

I totally believe the guy. I only wish he hadn't expressed it quite the way he did - more people might have taken it seriously, and it could be used in ads.

The use of the word "boy" is not permitted in any manner in any way during this time.
I live in the south...the old folks still refer to me that way and I'm well past that age.

761 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:30:43pm

re: #755 Palandine

His grandpa liberated Auschwitz!
/oh, wait, no, he didn't

He would have joined the military, but didn't see the point since there wasn't a war on?

/wait, that's not true either

762 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:30:44pm

ACORN- stinks so bad, even 0bamabots can't stand the stench!

763 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:31:05pm

I have so missed Mark Steyn...

...Traditionally, when an unknown politician emerges on the national scene, it's a race to define him. Gov. Palin is a good example: within days, the coastal sophisticates were mocking her as a chillbilly ditz with a womb that spits out inbred kids faster than the First National Bank of Welfare Swamp issues subprime mortgages. That's politics as usual: Define your opponent.

But Obama is defined by his indefinability. When I pointed out to my Vermont gals that he lives in a swank pad that was part of some shady real estate deal with a convicted fraudster (Tony Rezko), that he entrusted his daughters' entire religious education to a neo-segregationist anti-American nut who preaches that the government created the AIDS virus to kill black people (Jeremiah Wright), that he attended fundraisers with a political patron who's an unrepentant terrorist proud of plotting to blow up young ladies just like them at a dance at the Fort Dix military base (William Ayers), when I pointed all this out, they looked at me as if I'd brought a baseball bat to a croquet match. Mere earthbound politicians are defined by their real estate deals and sleazy buddies, but Obama is defined only by his vibe. As his many admirers in France would say, he has a certain je ne sais quoi. And, if you try to pin down quoprecisely, then they don't want to sais.

Besides, said one of the cuties, it's racist to try to link him to unsavory white men (Ayers). And black men (Wright). And Arabs (Rezko). And, just to be on the safe side, any dodgy Uzbeks or Papuans who might have been lurking around the greater Chicago area for the past quarter-century.

The ladies weren't exactly covering their eyes and going, "Neee-neee-na-na, can't hear you," but the other cutie did begin waving at me her Obama sticker – the one with the giant blue-frosted O embedded in a manicured candy-striped upland – like the villain in the movie trying to hypnotize you with his pocketwatch. I began frantically looking around in hopes that a passing Hare Krishna or Scientologist type could get me out of there. But, no: Gaze into the giant zero of the Obama logo, the hole in the star-spangled doughnut, the vast fathomless nullity that is the gaping keyhole to the door of utopia. To a sad shriveled Republican cynic, there's nothing there but the wide open spaces of Obama's blank resume. But believers will see therein the healing of the planet and the receding of the oceans. The black hole of Obama will suck you in through the awesome power of its totally cool suckiness. ...


Mark Steyn on Obama: Filling in the blank

764 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:31:31pm

re: #760 nightintheruts

The use of the word "boy" is not permitted in any manner in any way during this time.
I live in the south...the old folks still refer to me that way and I'm well past that age.

I meant I believed him that Obama couldn't make up his mind...not about the use of that phrase, which was totally wrong.

765 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:32:15pm

re: #742 JeremyR

But he may still steal it. He is after all Chicago style.

I once worked for a company where my district managers had names like Sam Coston, Cosimo Rulli, Kurt Noak, Lou Calimari, etc.

/State Street baby, does your boss have a machine gun?

766 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:32:30pm

Obama gave $800,000 to ACORN.

That's a lot of money.

767 Clemente  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:32:59pm

re: #651 PSGInfinity

FAIL!

And THAT, dear Lizards, is my nominee for Link of the Month...

768 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:33:22pm

re: #753 Adina in Judea

The State of Ohio has already conceded that election fraud will be a given, and tolerated.

769 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:33:24pm

re: #766 godfrey
Yes it is.

770 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:33:28pm

re: #719 Palandine

You are too kind.

771 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:33:38pm

re: #766 godfrey

Obama gave $800,000 to ACORN.

That's a lot of money.

Well, they are doing an awful lot of work for him...

772 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:33:54pm

re: #766 godfrey

Obama gave $800,000 to ACORN.

That's a lot of money.

/that's less than a dollar per vote

773 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:34:02pm

re: #746 nightwatch

DAMN! power surge...

lets try again...

WELCOME FNG's 1st assignment,

Name me 1 direct relation of the "O" that served in the United States Military. (All SORASS funded tweaking of the WIKKE will be thrown out)

U have 30 seconds...

Have fun campers!


didn't he say he was directly related to Wild Bill Hickok?
or was it General Patton?
Or George Washington?

man, he says he's related to someone famous in every city he goes to...

774 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:35:01pm

Ace has a video up:
2007: Obama Says He Will Invite ACORN to "Shape the Agenda" as President

775 John-SA  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:35:42pm

Thank you all for the kind welcome. And thank you Charles for letting in us newbies.

I really wanted to say to my conservative colleagues in America:

STOP BEING SO PESSIMISTIC ABOUT THE ELECTION!

Sure, the polls have Obama in front. Sure, the financial crisis hasn't helped (although it can be turned into a positive for the Republicans). But it's not over until the fat lady sings and she hasn't even walked in the building yet. The old saying "a week is a long time in politics" is very true, and here there are three weeks to go.

Yes, the Ayers/ACORN issues are big concerns. In ordinary times, the Ayers issue in particular should be a game-changer. But these aren't ordinary times - there's a major financial crisis happening. People vote first and foremost with their wallet in mind, especially if tough times approach.

Republican party members and supporters need to push the McCain/Palin campaign to focus on what's important, i.e. "It's the economy, stupid". Two themes ought to be pushed:

(1) The current mess is the fault of Obama and the Democratic Party and their cronies - they pushed lenders to make all the sub-prime home loans while blocking Republican attempts to ensure greater oversight of these practices.

(2) McCain/Palin/the Republicans are the ones better equipped to protect the economy (and people's livelihoods), not Obama/Biden/the Democrats.

These two points need to be hammered home every day until November 4.

776 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:35:58pm

re: #746 nightwatch

DAMN! power surge...

lets try again...

WELCOME FNG's 1st assignment,

Name me 1 direct relation of the "O" that served in the United States Military. (All SORASS funded tweaking of the WIKKE will be thrown out)

U have 30 seconds...

Have fun campers!

I thought Obama's grandfather enlisted after Pearl Harbor?

777 Opilio  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:36:00pm

re: #688 Karridine

In fact, we have long-standing laws in-place FORBIDDING security clearance to ANYONE who has used or abused drugs...

And for a good reason!

Um... Not exactly.

I know several individuals who received security clearances who I know had smoked a joint or two (or a fifty) in the past. I was even an interviewee during the background investigation for one of them. I was honest with the investigator and told her what I knew. My friend was also honest on the application and during his interview, and he did receive the clearance. I don't recall what clearance level he acquired, but it was higher than SECRET. I think they look for character and honesty, trying to detect potential for blackmail or bribery.

Just my experience.

778 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:36:08pm

IS Goddess here?
One for her:

A college teacher reminds her class of tomorrow's final exam. 'Now class , I won't tolerate any excuses for you not being here tomorrow. I might consider a nuclear attack or a serious personal injury, illness, or a death in your immediate family, but that's it, no other excuses whatsoever!' A smart-ass guy in the back of the room raised his hand and asked, 'What would you say if tomorrow I said I was suffering from complete and utter sexual exhaustion?' The entire class is reduced to laughter and snickering. When silence is restored, the teacher smiles knowingly at the student, shakes her head and sweetly says, 'Well, I guess you'd have to write the exam with your other hand.'

779 Adina in Judea  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:36:35pm

re: #768 Cartman

re: #753 Adina in Judea

The State of Ohio has already conceded that election fraud will be a given, and tolerated.

Can this election be stopped if enough states acknowledge that the election has been tainted for their portion of the electoral college?

780 Marlin925  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:14pm

WELCOME FNG's 1st assignment,

Name me 1 direct relation of the "O" that served in the United States Military. (All SORASS funded tweaking of the WIKKE will be thrown out)

U have 30 seconds...

Have fun campers!

His grandpa liberated Auschwitz!
/oh, wait, no, he didn't


I missed the deadline, but here's a snarky .02
I heard the 0bamunist bragging how grandpa served in Patton's 3rd Army.
How many believe that if Patton was a General in today's Army & 0bambi was prez, that 'Ol Blood and Guts would be in a stockade for being a little too un-Pee-Cee?

781 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:21pm

re: #764 arethusa


oh... I was commenting on the way the guy screwed it up and why it can't be used.
Otherwise, the fact they both were on that committee thing and the big 0 couldn't decide what to do...that is very scary.

At least John Kerry said he would consult the French first.

782 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:24pm

re: #770 stuiec

You are too kind.

That thread on Kos is ripe with comedy.

How far the libs have fallen from "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what YOU can do for your country." Apparently, eveyone on that thread is going to DIE, JUST DIE without massive government intervention...and one is spreading the blatant lie that you can't buy fresh food with food stamps.

FAIL. I used to be a grocery checker. You can buy any kind of food, including candy, chips, lobster, and fresh strawberries. ANY food at all.

783 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:28pm

If Obama wins, the MSM will soon grow tired of attacking Republicans because they won't be able to sell ads with old boring storylines like that. But they will find lots of fertile ground digging into Obama's legal shenanigans and associations with disgusting characters, and will have to turn their sights on him for no other reason than to stay afloat. Then we can all watch him demonize the media and try to censor their investigations, drawing on his Alinskyite upbringing.

In the next, we may just find the MSM as an ally.

784 Cast Iron Magnolia  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:36pm

re: #545 ploome hineni
Ploome, doesn't that just make you want to *spit*? What can we do to fight against such crap-ola?

785 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:41pm

re: #775 John-SA

Thank you for the encouragement.

The "beauty" of the ACORN scandal is that it ties together 0bama's shady dealings WITH the financial crisis. It's a two-fer, as they say.

786 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:53pm

* Obama went to Jeremiah Wright's church, but didn't know what kind of teaching went on there
* Obama doesn't know Bill Ayers
* Obama is not, and never has been, involved with ACORN

787 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:54pm

re: #774 Yankee Division Son

Ace has a video up:
2007: Obama Says He Will Invite ACORN to "Shape the Agenda" as President


Big surprise huh?

788 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:37:54pm

re: #762 Sharmuta

ACORN- stinks so bad, even 0bamabots can't stand the stench!

Keep on spreading the word!

789 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:38:10pm

re: #766 godfrey

Obama gave $800,000 to ACORN.

That's a lot of money for a bunch of squirrelly little nuts.

Had ta edit that one.

790 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:38:42pm

re: #786 cliffster

* Obama went to Jeremiah Wright's church, but didn't know what kind of teaching went on there
* Obama doesn't know Bill Ayers
* Obama is not, and never has been, involved with ACORN

Obama was not in bed with Fannie Mae & Co.

791 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:38:57pm

Okay, lizards, so I've narrowed the choices for My Very First Handgun down to these (with some wiggle room):

Kimber Warrior

or

Sig Sauer 1911 Nitron Rail


Discuss.


Please?

792 intifan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:39:08pm

re: #786 cliffster

* Obama went to Jeremiah Wright's church, but didn't know what kind of teaching went on there
* Obama doesn't know Bill Ayers
* Obama is not, and never has been, involved with ACORN

With the frequency that Obama admits he doesn't know anything, it's a wonder people still want to vote for him...

793 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:39:20pm

re: #766 godfrey

Obama gave $800,000 to ACORN.

That's a lot of money.


And, he lied about it at first.

[Link: www.pittsburghlive.com...]

794 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:39:24pm

How big was Obama's war chest in the primaries? What percentage does $800k represent?

795 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:39:28pm

ACORN spokesman: We’re non-partisan...take a look at this smarmy duck: [Link: hotair.com...] These people have NO shame.

796 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:39:29pm

re: #791 Occasional Reader

I like the second one.

797 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:39:52pm

re: #766 godfrey

Obama gave $800,000 to ACORN.

That's a lot of money.

Well, a pack of cigarettes is about $5 and that seems to be the going rate to buy a vote based on what ACORN volunteers are offering folks to register again and again.

798 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:40:46pm

re: #779 Adina in Judea

Can this election be stopped if enough states acknowledge that the election has been tainted for their portion of the electoral college?

Oh Lord, the lefties have been spreading the meme for 8 years that Bush will not willingly leave office (despite his repeated comments recently that he can't wait to get back to Texas). If elections were postponed, even for a good reason, there would be lefty riots everywhere.

Plus, voting has already started. We just need to stay on top of the shenanigans.

799 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:40:47pm

re: #782 Palandine

That thread on Kos is ripe with comedy.

How far the libs have fallen from "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what YOU can do for your country." Apparently, eveyone on that thread is going to DIE, JUST DIE without massive government intervention...and one is spreading the blatant lie that you can't buy fresh food with food stamps.

FAIL. I used to be a grocery checker. You can buy any kind of food, including candy, chips, lobster, and fresh strawberries. ANY food at all.

Maybe they are upset that you can't use food stamps to purchase "food" that has a "Proof" rating on the bottle's label.

800 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:41:06pm

re: #777 Opilio


you are correct. I was completely honest about my time during "that 70's show" and I went very high in clearance.

/now someone will be at my door shortly for saying that ; )

801 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:41:42pm

re: #777 Opilio

Possibly true, not doubting you Opilio, just stating that I read a linkie posted HERE about a month ago, stipulating in no uncertain terms the requirements for people who MIGHT access nucular weapons...

...and I was speaking from my own (pre-SandyBurglar) experience in the Army Security Agency, where 'trust' and 'trustworthiness' and 'honor' (and several other old-fashioned, corny concepts) were IMPORTANT...

802 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:41:55pm

re: #779 Adina in Judea

Can this election be stopped if enough states acknowledge that the election has been tainted for their portion of the electoral college?

I would doubt it. It could get thrown into the courts again, but let's just hope it doesn't come down to that.

803 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:42:24pm

re: #791 Occasional Reader

Okay, lizards, so I've narrowed the choices for My Very First Handgun down to these (with some wiggle room):

Kimber Warrior

or

Sig Sauer 1911 Nitron Rail

Discuss.

Please?

/Desert Eagle trumps both

804 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:42:45pm

re: #782 Palandine


and at some stores you can cash in the food stamps to buy cigarettes, beer or cash (1/2 the face value)

805 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:43:03pm

re: #780 Marlin925

How many believe that if Patton was a General in today's Army & 0bambi was prez, that 'Ol Blood and Guts would be in a stockade for being a little too un-Pee-Cee?

Hell, it happened in WWII, when the government was still in the business of winning wars.

Not the stockade, but slapping that shell-shocked soldier destroyed his career.

/or at least the media reporting of it did
/hmm, a trend...

806 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:43:26pm

re: #799 Syrah

Maybe they are upset that you can't use food stamps to purchase "food" that has a "Proof" rating on the bottle's label.

Sure you can. You just have to make lots of small purchases and collect the change (given in cash)

807 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:43:36pm

Thanks, Mandy.

A Trib analysis of campaign finance reports showed Obama paid CSI [the purported "subsidiary"] for services that stood out as unusual. For example, CSI received payments of $63,000 and $75,000 for advance work. Excluding the large payments to CSI, the average amount the Obama campaign spent with other organizations was $558.82 per check on more than 1,200 entries classified as advance work.

Citizens Services Inc. is headquartered at the same address as ACORN's national headquarters in New Orleans.

lol

Gimme a break, Obama.

808 gman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:43:51pm

ACORN hearts Obama in 2004.

Not sure if this was already out, but I double checked it against Social Policy Magazine archives.

809 John-SA  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:43:58pm

re: #775 John-SA


(1) The current mess is the fault of Obama and the Democratic Party and their cronies - they pushed lenders to make all the sub-prime home loans while blocking Republican attempts to ensure greater oversight of these practices.

Forgot to mention the ads should make the point about how much money Obama and other Democrats received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, etc. while the storm-clouds were gathering

810 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:44:15pm

re: #783 Mich-again

In the next, we may just find the MSM as an ally.

And purple monkeys will fly out of Cartman's butt.

811 reno911  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:44:49pm

re: #791 Occasional Reader

Okay, lizards, so I've narrowed the choices for My Very First Handgun down to these (with some wiggle room):

Kimber Warrior

or

Sig Sauer 1911 Nitron Rail


Discuss.


Please?

You have to answer this question regards a firearm.

Concealed Carry or Home Defense?

812 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:44:58pm

re: #810 Cartman

It will all be about how they can make money. Just like it is now.

813 Pawpaw  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:02pm

re: #252 Mich-again

I peel and mash potatoes pretty often actually. I have peeled thousands and thousands of potatoes in my years. Even peeled off flaps of thumb knuckle skin off a couple times when I was being careless with the peeler and you don't want to ever do that.

At least you added some protein to the starches.

814 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:06pm

re: #805 Palandine


good ole media reporting...

don't forget the media also loved Mussolini...
and Hollywood even let him direct and star in his own film.

815 wolfie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:11pm

re: #722 Outrider

If more students and parents spoke up, there'd be less of a problem.

816 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:15pm

re: #796 J.D.

I like the second one.

Becauuuse...?

817 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:47pm

ACORN’s Nutty Regime for Cities

If you thought the New Left was dead in America, think again. Walk through just about any of the nation’s inner cities, and you’re likely to find an office of ACORN, bustling with young people working 12-hour days to “organize the poor” and bring about “social change.” The largest radical group in the country, ACORN has 120,000 dues-paying members, chapters in 700 poor neighborhoods in 50 cities, and 30 years’ experience. It boasts two radio stations, a housing corporation, a law office, and affiliate relationships with a host of trade-union locals. Not only big, it is effective, with some remarkable successes in getting municipalities and state legislatures to enact its radical policy goals into law.

Community organizing among the urban poor has been an honorable American tradition since Jane Addams’s famous Hull House dramatically uplifted the late-nineteenth-century Chicago slums, but ACORN and Addams are on different planets philosophically. Hull House and its many successors emphasized self-empowerment: the poor, they thought, could take control of their lives and communities through education, hard work, and personal responsibility. Not ACORN. It promotes a 1960s-bred agenda of anti-capitalism, central planning, victimology, and government handouts to the poor. As a result, not only does it harm the poor it claims to serve; it is also a serious threat to the urban future.

It is no surprise that ACORN preaches a New Left–inspired gospel, since it grew out of one of the New Left’s silliest and most destructive groups, the National Welfare Rights Organization. In the mid-sixties, founder George Wiley forged an army of tens of thousands of single minority mothers, whom he sent out to disrupt welfare offices through sit-ins and demonstrations demanding an end to the “oppressive” eligibility restrictions that kept down the welfare rolls. His aim: to flood the welfare system with so many clients that it would burst, creating a crisis that, he believed, would force a radical restructuring of America’s unjust capitalist economy.
The flooding succeeded beyond Wiley’s wildest dreams. From 1965 to 1974, the number of single-parent households on welfare soared from 4.3 million to 10.8 million, despite mostly flush economic times. By the early 1970s, one person was on the welfare rolls in New York City for every two working in the city’s private economy. Yet far from sparking a restructuring of American capitalism, this explosion of the welfare rolls only helped to create a culture of family disintegration and dependency in inner-city neighborhoods, with rampant illegitimacy, crime, school failure, drug abuse, non-work, and poverty among a fast-growing underclass.

Even Wiley came to see that cramming millions more single mothers and their kids onto the welfare rolls would not produce the desired socialist utopia. Seeking new worlds to conquer, he sent one of his young lieutenants, Wade Rathke, to Little Rock, Arkansas, to launch a new community-organizing group: ACORN. The new group was to build a broad constituency of low-income and working-class people to agitate for social change. ...

818 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:48pm

re: #811 reno911

Home Defense?

/shotgun

819 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:45:50pm

re: #806 cliffster

Sure you can. You just have to make lots of small purchases and collect the change (given in cash)

That's why some states have gone to having it on a card, and do the transaction electronically. No change is given that they can use for cigs or booze.

And, WIC checks must only be used for what is listed on the check (usually baby formula, eggs, cereal, and milk).

820 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:10pm

re: #791 Occasional Reader
Hi O.R. - I won't discuss .40 caliber since you've decided on the .45 - is this a strictly at home gun or one you might get a carry permit for?
I ask because the Kimber looks as if it would have less chance to "hang up" on hammer or rear site. It is also mucho expensive - don't know price on the Sig Sauer, but do note that the Sig Sauer has amidextrious safety, which could come in really handy if - like me - you shoot left handed.

821 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:12pm

re: #783 Mich-again

In the next, we may just find the MSM as an ally.

I agree they'll probably have to turn on him at some point, just because they can't continue their hagiographic coverage with a President, but they'll still feel in 2012 that he's better than the Republican alternative.

BUT, if they do publish all those negative stories I hope they do, then we got more ammo.

822 reno911  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:19pm

re: #818 Killian Bundy

/shotgun

Word.

823 godfrey  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:22pm

That's a fine article, Mandy.

Money flows back and forth between ACORN, Citizens Services Inc., Project Vote and Communities Voting Together. ACORN posts job ads for Citizens Services and Project Vote. Communities Voting Together contributed $60,000 to Citizens Services Inc., for example, in November 2005, according to a posting on CampaignMoney.com. Project Vote has hired ACORN and CSI as its highest paid contractors, paying ACORN $4,649,037 in 2006 and CSI $779,016 in 2006, according to Terry of the Consumers Rights League.

Don't let anyone tell you ACORN and CSI are "totally different." They're married.

824 willowone  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:43pm

re: #795 MrPaulRevere not including[Link: www.thenation.com...]
acorn endorsing Obama

825 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:49pm

re: #816 Occasional Reader

Becauuuse...?

The woodgrain handle is by far classier than the steel handle, imho.

826 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:46:55pm

re: #710 stuiec

Man, sounds like a socialist utopia to me!

Good post, stuiec...ding

827 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:47:33pm

re: #811 reno911

You have to answer this question regards a firearm.

Concealed Carry or Home Defense?

Yes, that is the question. Neither lend themselves well to CCW.

828 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:47:46pm

ACORN is the Achilles heel, folks- he can't escape it.

And even his own followers are disgusted by it.

829 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:47:49pm

re: #806 cliffster

Sure you can. You just have to make lots of small purchases and collect the change (given in cash)

It looks like Bush was working on a way to prevent that from working.

The Bush administration announced Tuesday that it had completed one of the biggest changes in the history of the food stamp program, replacing paper coupons with electronic benefits and debit cards.

830 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:48:08pm

My brother the ex-mortgage broker had a cash and carry fire sale on all his firearms when his business collapsed. There's a sliver lining to every dark cloud.

831 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:48:11pm

Subject: History Repeats


"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. "


--Cicero, 55 BC

832 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:48:12pm

I wish there were some way to have these links/posts about BHO gathered in one place for the near future.

833 Gus 802  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:48:57pm

This is one I found in the Newsgroups where it says, "New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate
seat from Chicago."

From "Progressive Poulist" 1996

834 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:18pm

re: #831 Bobibutu

Subject: History Repeats


"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. "


--Cicero, 55 BC


Nice work

835 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:18pm

re: #815 wolfie

If more students and parents spoke up, there'd be less of a problem.

The students either agree or clam up if they disagree with the prof. And if anyone really questions a lib prof's expressions of his views, the tenured prof starts screaming something about tenure guarantees his freedom of speech. It has to be really bad, and obviously against the idea of learning, like the attack-Palin essay in CO, to be stopped. Most profs are more insidious. So long as they don't appear to let their disagreements with students affect the grades, they're home free. Sad.

836 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:19pm

re: #832 MandyManners

I wish there were some way to have these links/posts about BHO gathered in one place for the near future.

Here's an idea! Link them in this spinoff of gmans, and stick it in your favorites for later use:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

837 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:27pm

re: #832 MandyManners

I wish there were some way to have these links/posts about BHO gathered in one place for the near future.


Save them to your favorites?

838 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:37pm

re: #813 Pawpaw

At least you added some protein to the starches.


The protein in mashed potatoes comes from the butter, sour cream, cheese and bacon bits. Chives for the veggies. and don't forget salt. A perfect dish really.

839 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:38pm

re: #806 cliffster

Sure you can. You just have to make lots of small purchases and collect the change (given in cash)

Oh, I used to get that a lot. Little children coming in with a $1 stamp (this was before they went to debit cards) to buy a $.25 pack of gum. Parent standing outside, waiting for the change. I'd have the kids go get their parents. They could pull their scam, but they'd have to look me in the eye, not send their children.

I'm a huge fan of WIC--healthy, nutritious food, absolutely free. Some people do need food stamps for a while. But the creation of a dependent underclass is a national tragedy.

840 Marlin925  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:49:47pm

Re: #7 Occasional Reader
re: #791 Occasional Reader

Re: #7 Occasional Reader
Re: #7 Occasional Reader


I'm a Glock 19 guy. Use Gold Dot 124 +Ps for goblins, and whatever is cheapest at Gander Mountain for practice fodder. Point & click interface (no external safety), simplicity is what "Combat Tupperwear" has going for it.
Have a CCW, but the Glock is seldom carried, except when it's real cold out & I'm wearing a big coat. Usual 'social outings' pistol is a S &W snubby with 148 semi-wadcutters. I just don't see .38 hollow points getting enough velocity out of a snub to use them.

841 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:50:04pm

The Sig 1911's have a "fatter" grip than do the Kimbers. I don't like that aspect of them, personally.

842 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:50:19pm

re: #827 Cartman
Hey hi Cartman my friend - that's sorta what I was getting at in my #820 and for home defense I'd go with a shotgun instead of a pistol as large a caliber as a .45 - adrenlyn rushing as you realize someone has broken in isn't going to make you shoot a .45 any more accurately, I tells ya!
How are you doing tonight my friend?!

843 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:50:26pm

re: #834 cliffster

Nice work

it seemed timely. ;-)

844 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:50:43pm

re: #811 reno911

You have to answer this question regards a firearm.

Concealed Carry or Home Defense?

European sparrow!

Wait, wrong movie.

Home defense, and general range fun. Can't carry here in DC. Legally. Yet.

HOWEVER... let me just tell you how it warmed my heart to go into a gun shop recently, ask "so you can now sell to DC residents, right", and have the answer be, "YES". THANK YOU, MR. HELLER.

845 Adina in Judea  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:50:45pm

re: #798 Palandine

If elections were postponed, even for a good reason, there would be lefty riots everywhere.

Plus, voting has already started. We just need to stay on top of the shenanigans.

You're right, of course.

It's just horrifying that Obama has been able to turn Chicago politics into a national disease that Americans have to fight during a Presidential election.

846 jorline  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:50:46pm

re: #721 summergurl

So what do you guys think? True or not? You think Hill will come back in and sweep it all up?

Add the $800,000 the Obama Campaign donated to ACORN, tie it in a nice bow and let the prosecutor run with it.

847 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:51:13pm

re: #818 Killian Bundy

/shotgun

Already got one.

848 arethusa  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:51:54pm

re: #831 Bobibutu

Subject: History Repeats


"The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. "


--Cicero, 55 BC

11 years after he said that, Rome became a dictatorship, then an empire.

I love the sentiment. But has it ever actually worked?

849 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:52:03pm

Acorn is non partisan, just like Media Matters is non partisan. These shameless liars are a disgrace.

850 nightintheruts  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:52:14pm

re: #840 Marlin925


Hey Marlin,

Just got a .38 to play with recently. Taurus.
What is a good range with hollowpoints?

851 Marlin925  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:52:55pm

re: #782 Palandine


Up here in Michigan, we have deposits on pop cans & bottles. "Poor" people will buy pop with food stamps, dump the stuff most ricky tic and return the empties for more meth or crack money.

852 summergurl  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:33pm

Nothing is far fetched where Hillary is concerned. I expect a comeback.
She's like a cat, nine lives and all...

853 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:35pm
854 reno911  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:36pm

This is what I carry; P3AT

This is what is waiting at home; RRA 9M

855 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:44pm

Saturday night Cun Talk.

/sponsored by the NRA

856 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:51pm

re: #828 Sharmuta
Hi Sharm - what do you mean when you say his own "followers" are disgusted with his ACORN association - I mean which followers - link?!

857 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:52pm

re: #826 jorline

Thanks!

858 RubyTuesday  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:53:54pm

#17 OK State defeats #3 Mizzou. It's a VERY good evening!
Go Pokes!

859 rawmuse  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:54:02pm

re: #411 Hapster

some food for thought fellow lizards ... What would you do if B. Hussein obama wins? I have my answer ready but I wanna see some good thoughts. lets go ..

A successful democracy relies on at least 2 things a) a majority faction to govern with a modicum of wisdom and b) a minority faction to consent to be governed by the former.

This concept has been getting frayed around the edges somewhat of late.

860 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:54:22pm

re: #856 realwest

Hi Sharm - what do you mean when you say his own "followers" are disgusted with his ACORN association - I mean which followers - link?!

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

861 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:54:38pm

re: #851 Marlin925

Up here in Michigan, we have deposits on pop cans & bottles. "Poor" people will buy pop with food stamps, dump the stuff most ricky tic and return the empties for more meth or crack money.

Sigh. Ingenuity that could be turned to so many good uses...

862 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:54:43pm

re: #836 Sharmuta

Here's an idea! Link them in this spinoff of gmans, and stick it in your favorites for later use:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

I'm unlearned about the spin-off's.

Tutor?

863 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:54:46pm

re: #848 arethusa

11 years after he said that, Rome became a dictatorship, then an empire.

I love the sentiment. But has it ever actually worked?

Well, here we are full circle. It's up to us from here on out.

864 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:01pm

re: #820 realwest

Hi O.R. - I won't discuss .40 caliber since you've decided on the .45 - is this a strictly at home gun or one you might get a carry permit for?
I ask because the Kimber looks as if it would have less chance to "hang up" on hammer or rear site. It is also mucho expensive - don't know price on the Sig Sauer, but do note that the Sig Sauer has amidextrious safety, which could come in really handy if - like me - you shoot left handed.

As mentioned, no carry permit on the horizon here in DC.

Sig is about $200 cheaper. I can afford either one.

Another DC limitation; 10 round magazine max. So to me that argues for the stopping power end of that bargain, since I'm legally limited on firepower.

And I just LIKE the 1911. I love shooting the durn thing.

865 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:04pm

re: #849 MrPaulRevere

Acorn is non partisan, just like Media Matters is non partisan. These shameless liars are a disgrace.

Yep- they non-partisanly endorsed 0bama!

866 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:07pm

re: #797 Mich-again

Well, a pack of cigarettes is about $5 and that seems to be the going rate to buy a vote based on what ACORN volunteers are offering folks to register again and again.

Gee, can the recipients of the cigs sue ACORN and Obama for giving them lung cancer?

867 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:23pm

re: #842 realwest

Yep, I agree, R-Dubs. Can't go wrong with a SG, but I'd recommend to anyone to give it a good test run before making the decision. You still have to be somewhat on the mark for a SG to be effective.

I'm feelin' lousy this evening, but thanks for askin'!

868 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:38pm

re: #837 J.D.

Save them to your favorites?

I'm battling the 2,500-limit to my favorites.

869 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:53pm

re: #848 arethusa

In America, for the first hundred years or so...

870 cliffster  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:58pm

re: #839 Palandine

Oh, I used to get that a lot. Little children coming in with a $1 stamp (this was before they went to debit cards) to buy a $.25 pack of gum. Parent standing outside, waiting for the change. I'd have the kids go get their parents. They could pull their scam, but they'd have to look me in the eye, not send their children.

I'm a huge fan of WIC--healthy, nutritious food, absolutely free. Some people do need food stamps for a while. But the creation of a dependent underclass is a national tragedy.

I'm glad you made the cowards come and do their own dirty work. But I can't agree with you about WIC. Once upon a time, if folks needed food, they'd go to the local church. Or to a food bank. Private charities have only so much money, they cherish every dollar, and they make sure it goes to good. You won't find people getting booze through local charities' loopholes.

871 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:55:58pm

At the gun show today, where I picked up my new lil friend, the guy who collected the money up front had a bumper sticker on the cash box: "I'm a bitter clinger, and I VOTE"

It'd get my car keyed for sure, but it made me grin.

872 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:56:20pm

Sorry, Dad, I'm Voting for Obama
Amazing how some people will rationalize away rational thoughts:

But having a first-class temperament and a first-class intellect, President Obama will (I pray, secularly) surely understand that traditional left-politics aren’t going to get us out of this pit we’ve dug for ourselves. If he raises taxes and throws up tariff walls and opens the coffers of the DNC to bribe-money from the special interest groups against whom he has (somewhat disingenuously) railed during the campaign trail, then he will almost certainly reap a whirlwind that will make Katrina look like a balmy summer zephyr.

Sometimes the apple does fall far away from the tree.

873 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:56:34pm

re: #791 Occasional Reader

Okay, lizards, so I've narrowed the choices for My Very First Handgun down to these (with some wiggle room):

Kimber Warrior

or

Sig Sauer 1911 Nitron Rail


Discuss.


Please?

Almost-boutique 1911s huh? Cool. I'd get the Kimber because it's kin to the USMC MEUSOC. I'm pretty sure they've been in the 1911 business longer than SIG, too, though I've heard they can be hit-or-miss.

874 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:56:41pm

re: #862 MandyManners

That spinoff has it's own comments section- works just like a thread here. Just link the articles in that thread and then they'd all be in one spot. Or- you can just put all the ACORN links in this thread in your favorites and tag them as ACORN.

875 Mich-again  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:56:47pm

re: #842 realwest

Hey Realwest, I sure didn't mean to not answer you last night, but I left without seeing that question. As for speed or power, I'd say neither. The kid is more of a juke artist that makes the linebacker miss and then runs for his life daylight. Next year as a 10th grader he'll be faster and stronger. The 148 yards was on about 15 carries. One was for 60 and a TD. The rest were grind it out carries.

Worst part was I forgot the cowbell. Could have used it.

876 lifeofthemind  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:56:52pm

Evening, I have been incommunicado for about 12 hours. Nice day to go to communicado I think. Are we still having an election? Who is running?

877 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:57:09pm

re: #868 MandyManners

I'm battling the 2,500-limit to my favorites.

Whoa! Our favorites have a limit?

878 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 8:57:16pm

Obama's truth deficit

When John Murtagh was 9 years old, Bill Ayers' friends tried to kill him.

"I remember my mother's pulling me from the tangle of sheets and running to the kitchen where my father stood. Through the large windows overlooking the yard, all we could see was the bright glow of flames below. We didn't leave our burning house for fear of who might be waiting outside," wrote Mr. Murtagh in the April 2008 issue of the City Journal.

It wasn't personal. John's dad was a judge presiding over a trial of the Black Panthers. The next morning, after the bombs exploded, John still remembers the red graffiti on the sidewalk: "FREE THE PANTHER 21; THE VIET CONG HAVE WON; KILL THE PIGS."

To the best of John's recollection, Bernardine Dohrn, who is now Bill Ayers' wife, first claimed credit for bombing John's home - along with other targets - in November 1970.

Today John Murtagh is a lawyer and Yonkers' city councilman who is running for the New York state Senate on the Republican ticket this November. I reached him this week through his state Senate campaign. It wasn't hard. Has Barack Obama ever tried?

Barack Obama was only 8 years old when Mr. Murtagh's house was bombed. Mr. Obama has nothing to do wi