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Open | Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 10:09:08 pm PDT

We must believe in free will — we have no choice.

Isaac Bashevis Singer

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1 So?  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:11:03pm

True.

2 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:11:42pm

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

RawMuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

3 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:11:57pm

I believe THESE can help Obama GO DOWN in FLAMES!

4 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:12:56pm

I am now convinced that the warnings about not stopping a Linux install once it has started has some validity to it.

I turned a hard drive into a brick today.

Good for tossing, not so good for computing.

5 Intifan  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:13:27pm

Transferring gun thread....Now.

6 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:13:31pm

hmmm, paradoxical. I like it

7 mattm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:13:43pm

longest ALDS ever time wise, over 400 pitches.

8 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:14:28pm
9 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:16:08pm

Good night, all.

10 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:16:13pm

re: #4 Syrah

Pull the magnets and stick 'em on your fridge. Warning: finger injuries may occur.

11 Alouette  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:17:34pm

Well, hey ya'll, I'm makin' reservations for my son's weddin' next month to the only Jewish girl in all of Alabama! Who's got suggestions on southern-talk and other Southern stuff and cool places to visit in Birmingham Alabama!

I'm just sorry my future daughter-in-law doesn't have a real Southern accent. Her parents are Yankees. But she is a true Southern belle.

12 guzziguy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:19:53pm

Good "Southern Dictionary"

[Link: littlerock.about.com...]

13 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:20:19pm

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

14 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:20:49pm

Highway Star ...

The Original Metal band.

15 Alouette  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:21:58pm

Which Alabama media should I notify about the first Hasidic wedding in Alabama in, well, in ever?

16 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:22:08pm
17 rawmuse  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:22:50pm

re: #11 Alouette

Never ask a woman if she is pregnant, unless you can actually see a baby emerging from her uterus.

Never ask anyone if you can have all their stuff after they are dead.

Never insult their dogs.

Everything else is OK.

18 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:23:33pm

re: #14 Archimedes

Highway Star ...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

The Original Metal band.

Allright,
Hold tight!
I'm a highway star!

(Although, IN ROCK is still my favorite DP release...)

19 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:23:41pm
20 zombie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:24:56pm

re: #4 Syrah

I am now convinced that the warnings about not stopping a Linux install once it has started has some validity to it.

I turned a hard drive into a brick today.

Good for tossing, not so good for computing.

Can't you just low-level reformat it and start afresh? You lose any data on it, but unless the hard drive is physically damaged, can't you always just wipe it clean by reformatting it completely?

21 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:26:26pm

re: #4 Syrah

I am now convinced that the warnings about not stopping a Linux install once it has started has some validity to it.

I turned a hard drive into a brick today.

Good for tossing, not so good for computing.

check out ...

[Link: www.grc.com...]

miracles happen ... I have known Gibson for over 25 years ... simply the best. He writes all his stuff in Assembly.

22 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:26:57pm

re: #17 rawmuse

Never ask a woman if she is pregnant, unless you can actually see a baby emerging from her uterus.

I learned that the hard way!

23 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:28:24pm

re: #11 Alouette

Well, hey ya'll, I'm makin' reservations for my son's weddin' next month to the only Jewish girl in all of Alabama! Who's got suggestions on southern-talk and other Southern stuff and cool places to visit in Birmingham Alabama!

I'm just sorry my future daughter-in-law doesn't have a real Southern accent. Her parents are Yankees. But she is a true Southern belle.

A Southern belleboosta!

24 rawmuse  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:28:46pm

re: #22 J.D.

I learned ALL those the hard way...

25 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:30:50pm

re: #19 J.D.

Obama jewelry

What? Is that a body-adornment thingy? Why would anyone want to wear such a primitive-looking thing unless one was a member of a mindless cult that worshiped a nothing that it represented? (Oh wait, that describes the Demonrat party to a T...)

26 Wyatt Earp  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:31:03pm

Shania Twain has a choice. She did not chose wisely.

27 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:31:11pm

re: #13 Caboose

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

I have also noticed an increase in the hip-hop style metallic gold and silver plated Obama bling t-shirt vendors, in malls and even on street corners with folding tables. Guys with their pants under their ass need a Presidential candidate on their shirt. Go figure

28 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:32:20pm

re: #24 rawmuse

I learned ALL those the hard way...

Amen.

29 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:32:20pm

re: #24 rawmuse

I learned ALL those the hard way...


We're fast learners, though, right?

30 stevieray  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:33:02pm

Deep, yet snarky commentary... and he invented the sewing machine!

Isaac Bashevis Singer was truly a renaissance man!

/... what?

31 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:33:08pm

Ditto here on the pregnant thing. Yikes.

32 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:33:17pm

re: #13 Caboose

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)


I was there last Sunday...does it still smell like vomit upchuck?

33 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:34:09pm

National Chocolate Week is coming up!

Eat more chocolate!

34 Hucbald  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:34:13pm

Another good one about free will:

We can do what we like, but we can't like what we like.

I have a string of ex-girlfriends who empirically prove that.

35 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:34:19pm

re: #25 Caboose

What? Is that a body-adornment thingy? Why would anyone want to wear such a primitive-looking thing unless one was a member of a mindless cult that worshiped a nothing that it represented? (Oh wait, that describes the Demonrat party to a T...)


lol!

36 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:35:40pm

re: #29 J.D.

We're fast learners, though, right?

Who was it said ... "well I have thick skin - OK, if you must know, scar tissue."

37 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:36:09pm

re: #36 Bobibutu

Who was it said ... "well I have thick skin - OK, if you must know, scar tissue."

Dunno, but it pertains!

38 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:36:10pm

re: #13 Caboose

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

Not surprising. Given how high a percentage of the city's population is black, the surprising thing would be if such shirts were uncommon.

39 J.D.  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:36:15pm

Nite.

40 SurferDoc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:36:35pm

re: #36 Bobibutu

Who was it said ... "well I have thick skin - OK, if you must know, scar tissue."

Joan Rivers? *Rimshot*

41 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:37:02pm

that's got to be the worst thing ever, when "Congratulations!" slips out of your mouth, to some woman who replies "for what?" The mind recoils in horror, oh yeah, been there

42 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:37:27pm

re: #20 zombie

Can't you just low-level reformat it and start afresh? You lose any data on it, but unless the hard drive is physically damaged, can't you always just wipe it clean by reformatting it completely?

I am not sure. There was a lot of very bad clicking noises coming from the hard drive when I fired it back up. (I have heard that clicking before. Very bad sign.)

The hd does not even register on the post screen any more.

It was old. I may have pushed it just a little too far.

43 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:38:01pm

re: #27 JeremiahRight

I have also noticed an increase in the hip-hop style metallic gold and silver plated Obama bling t-shirt vendors, in malls and even on street corners with folding tables. Guys with their pants under their ass need a Presidential candidate on their shirt. Go figure

Yeah, those guys that be 'jailin' are gonna convince me to vote for the Chosen One 'cuz they have a blingly T-shirt on...NOT!

Here's hoping and praying to see all the 0bama t-shirts and other Chose One paraphernalia on the '4 for $10' tables at rest stops along the Interstates in mid-November...

44 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:38:41pm

re: #32 J.D.

I was there last Sunday...does it still smell like vomit upchuck?

Yep...

45 mattm  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:38:57pm

Rays take game 2.

46 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:39:40pm

re: #41 JeremiahRight

that's got to be the worst thing ever, when "Congratulations!" slips out of your mouth, to some woman who replies "for what?" The mind recoils in horror, oh yeah, been there


You must learn to reply without hesitation: "For losing weight -- you look so svelte and attractive!"

She will know you are BSing her, but she will allow you to live.

47 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:40:18pm

re: #43 Caboose

Yeah, those guys that be 'jailin' are gonna convince me to vote for the Chosen One 'cuz they have a blingly T-shirt on...NOT!

Here's hoping and praying to see all the 0bama t-shirts and other Chose One paraphernalia on the '4 for $10' tables at rest stops along the Interstates in mid-November...

Nah, they'll just ship it to Africa, like most also-ran merchandise. It'll probably mostly end up in Kenya, given his high standing there.

48 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:40:54pm

re: #43 Caboose

no doubt! How funny would it be though to see McCain shirts that were made in that same style. You know, that urban crack-dealer uniform style that's so popular with the youth

49 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:41:47pm

re: #16 J.D.

The Obama belt.

Hmmm. Wouldn't the only people who would actually wear this be the kids who wear their pants below their underwear in the first place? (In imitation of jail inmates who aren't allowed to have belts.)

50 LGoPs  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:42:09pm

re: #42 Syrah

I am not sure. There was a lot of very bad clicking noises coming from the hard drive when I fired it back up. (I have heard that clicking before. Very bad sign.)

The hd does not even register on the post screen any more.


The clicking is a sure sign of death....happened to me a couple months ago. Non-recoverable, it's dead. Put a stake thru it, otherwise an ACORN worker might register it to vote..........

It was old. I may have pushed it just a little too far.

51 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:42:19pm

re: #32 J.D.

I was there last Sunday...does it still smell like vomit upchuck?

I did the gig back in 65 - IBM had a school there - just befor sending me to Vietnam.

Got to see and hear Pete do his thing.

52 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:42:36pm

re: #48 JeremiahRight

no doubt! How funny would it be though to see McCain shirts that were made in that same style. You know, that urban crack-dealer uniform style that's so popular with the youth

That'll never happen. McCain supporters have too much class (and are mostly too old) for that.

53 nightwatch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:42:43pm

I....do believe...I am

going to bed..........MONKEY RUB!

Love ya Lizards, faith is not so bad a thing (humanistic formation, no monkeys allowed), the HOW did we get HERE is what drives the debate!
I sleep well at night just having faith that we ARE here.

54 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:44:05pm

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Nah, they'll just ship it to Africa, like most also-ran merchandise. It'll probably mostly end up in Kenya, given his high standing there.


Don't care where it goes, as long as it is just the forgotten detritus of a failed and horribly flawed candidate that should have never gotten as far as it did. To Hell with it (and the mechandise, too...)

55 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:44:08pm

re: #21 Bobibutu

check out ...

[Link: www.grc.com...]

miracles happen ... I have known Gibson for over 25 years ... simply the best. He writes all his stuff in Assembly.

Thanks.

Was there a particular download that you were thinking of?

I don't think any of these will help me unless I've overlooked something.

Fortunately for me this was just a kick-about hobby machine. A bit of salvage that I may have just pushed over the edge. I haven't lost any data of value.

56 lummox  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:45:56pm

Finally, a chill thread.

TO THE OVER 50 CROWD...
When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were. When they were growing up, what with walking twenty-five miles to school every morning... uphill... barefoot... BOTH ways... in pouring rain... yadda, yadda blah, blah, blah...

I remember promising myself that when I grew up, There was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on kids about how hard I had it and how easy they've got it!

But now that I'm over the ripe old age of thirty I can't help but look around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so easy! I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia!

And I hate to say it but you kids today you don't know how good you've got it! I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and Look it up ourselves, in the card catalogue!

There was no email! We had to actually write somebody a letter, with a pen! Pen Pals – remember them? Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox and it would take like a week to get there!

Want to see boobs? Google wasn't even thought of so the best you could hope for was swapping old Playboy magazines with your friend who stole them from his dad.

There were no MP3's or iTunes! If you wanted music, you had to catch a bus to the damn record store and buy it yourself! Our equivalent to Napster and Limewire was waiting around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and fuck it all up!

We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!

And we didn't have Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mum, boss, drug dealer, collections agent, you just didn't know! You had to pick it up and take your chances!

We didn't have any Playstation's or Xbox's with high-resolution 3D graphics! We had the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64! With games Like 'Space Invaders' and 'Double Dragon'. Your guy was a little clunky bunch of pixels! You actually had to use your Imagination! And there was no online multiplayer stuff either. It was just you and your brother and a couple of joysticks that hardly worked.

You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! If you missed it – too bad. It wasn't coming to DVD and there was no downloading from Bit Torrent the next day.

You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel. There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-bastards!

And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up we had to use the stove ... imagine that! That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled. You guys wouldn't have lasted Five minutes back in 1980!

Regards, The over 50 Crowd.

57 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:46:06pm
58 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:46:43pm

re: #42 Syrah

I am not sure. There was a lot of very bad clicking noises coming from the hard drive when I fired it back up. (I have heard that clicking before. Very bad sign.)

The hd does not even register on the post screen any more.

It was old. I may have pushed it just a little too far.

As a last ditch effort - put it in a plastic ziplock with the air sucked out of it - place in you freezer for 48 hours. Remove and plug it in. Copy the drive immediately.

No forget that - that's for mechanical failure - Gibson is your best bet unless you don't care and make a trip to Fry's.

59 cygnus  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:47:02pm

re: #16 J.D.

The Obama belt.

You could use that for a male chastity belt. Yuck. That would stop any lady right in her tracks.

60 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:47:06pm

Good afternoon, Reptilia! Someone just replied to a comment on my art forum saying that the trooper-in-question's son literally asked for it.

Wth.

61 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:47:43pm

re: #33 stuiec

National Chocolate Week is coming up!

Eat more chocolate!

Yum!

62 cygnus  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:47:46pm

re: #56 lummox

Now get off my lawn!

63 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:47:56pm

re: #57 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I thought Free Will was one of Obama's biggest donors.

64 Cartman  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:48:23pm

re: #55 Syrah

I just talked to a buddy today, and am going over tomorrow to look at his ailing computer.

Cartman: "Well, what's the problem exactly, Tom?"

Tom: "Well, it's really, really slow, and it's makin' funny noises."

Uh, oh...

65 Caboose  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:48:24pm

Night all, me and my fellow cronies from work are gonna go refurbish a school that was damaged in Katrina tomorrow and i need to grab some shuteye. Kick @ss and take names in my abscence... ;-)

66 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:50:17pm

re: #65 Caboose

They're still rebuilding there? Curse you, FEMA!

/i've got the pen, but I don't know if I should write the names first. (;

67 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:51:05pm

re: #8 Noam Sayin'

Big crowd, exercising Free Will.

Crap Noam, you beat me to it!

68 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:51:35pm

re: #66 lazardo

They're still rebuilding there? Curse you, FEMA!

/i've got the pen, but I don't know if I should write the names first. (;

That's why you kick ass first. Easier to get the names from their wallets and I.D.s. :)

69 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:51:42pm

re: #63 lazardo

I thought Free Will was one of Obama's biggest donors.


No, that would be Stan. He often impersonates Free Will.

70 lummox  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:51:59pm

Following the problems in the financial markets around the US and Europe, uncertainty has now hit Japan.
In the last seven days Origami Bank has folded. Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank announced plans to cut some of its branches.
Yesterday, it was announced that Karaoke Bank is up for sale and will likely go for a song, while today, shares in Kamikaze Bank were suspended after they nose-dived.
While Samurai Bank is soldiering on following sharp cutbacks, Ninja Bank is reported to have taken a hit, but they remain in the black.
Furthermore, 500 staff at Karate Bank got the chop and analysts report there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank where it is feared that staff may get a raw deal.

71 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:53:05pm

re: #63 lazardo

I thought Free Will was one of Obama's biggest donors.

No, that's Free Willie.

/biggest waste of celluloid i've ever seen

72 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:53:08pm

re: #56 lummox

yep, it's instant everything all the time. Gimme gimme gimme.

73 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:53:09pm

re: #15 Alouette

Which Alabama media should I notify about the first Hasidic wedding in Alabama in, well, in ever?

Mark Levin's wife Kendall is from Huntsville, Alabama. He never said if they got married there, though. I'll have to call him and find out. : )

74 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:53:20pm

re: #56 lummox

Hey, at least our Star Wars movies didn't suck.

/born in '71, and you post cracked me up!

75 Alouette  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:53:23pm

I gave all my kids free will to do what they wanted. So now my youngest son is getting married to a young belle, the only eligible JEWISH girl in all of ALabama! It will be the FIRST "AUHENTIC" Jewish/Hasidic/Ultra-Orthodox weddin' in Alabama. The weddin' is in 4 weeks in Birmingham. Should I bre notifyin' the media?

Yee-Hahhhh!

Any lizards who live in Birmingam, give a shout out (through my website) http:www.jewish-history.com, "contact us" if you want to be at thi event.

76 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:53:56pm

re: #70 lummox

Several people in my address book are getting that one!

77 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:55:28pm

re: #55 Syrah

Thanks.

Was there a particular download that you were thinking of?

I don't think any of these will help me unless I've overlooked something.

Fortunately for me this was just a kick-about hobby machine. A bit of salvage that I may have just pushed over the edge. I haven't lost any data of value.

SpinRite
[Link: www.grc.com...]
[Link: www.grc.com...]

absolute killer app. Has saved my bacon only 3 times over 25 years + ... you don't think you'll ever need it till you do. The nice thing is you can pull your fat out of the fire after the fact.

It is wise to run his free stuff to insure you are not at risk on the net.

78 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:55:29pm

re: #58 Bobibutu

As a last ditch effort - put it in a plastic ziplock with the air sucked out of it - place in you freezer for 48 hours. Remove and plug it in. Copy the drive immediately.

No forget that - that's for mechanical failure - Gibson is your best bet unless you don't care and make a trip to Fry's.

How very interesting. I will have to keep that idea in my back pocket. Does it really work?

For my situation, there is nothing to copy or save. It was a hobby kick-about piece of junk that I was just having some fun with. I was doing a clean install with a full disk partition scheme. I think I may have aborted the install at exactly the wrong moment, or that the disc was just doomed to fail anyway. Hard drives are kind of delicate in a "treat them very gently" sort of way. The machine had a very hard life before I got it. It may have just been the hd's time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Thanks for the idea though.

79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:55:38pm

re: #26 Wyatt Earp

Shania Twain has a choice. She did not chose wisely.

She is a Cunucklehead, you know...

80 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:55:39pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

I thought he spent time writing creepy fan mail to famous rappers.

81 lummox  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:55:47pm

If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” —H. L. Mencken

82 2SoonOld2LateSmart  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:56:55pm

Really need a laugh in these troubled times.

Bill Malone - Sam the Bellhop

83 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:57:08pm

Gonna have late lunch, brb. Please to check my #60 in the meantime, I'm stupefied.

84 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:57:57pm

re: #80 lazardo

I thought he spent time writing creepy fan mail to famous rappers.

Very good reply. I'm not a big rap fan, but I did appreciate it.

85 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:58:51pm

re: #81 lummox

If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” —H. L. Mencken

Well, can we get Hannibal Lector to invite Obama for dinner?

86 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:59:23pm

re: #56 lummox
Just effin' EXCELLENT! This kids today, why if we ever lose power and can't plug in, or use battery rechargers, these kids today woulnd't know what to do. Can't do simple math as it is, and a slide rule?
Fugggataboutit.
And no music, no Guitar Hero, nobody (hardly) knows how to play accoustic instruments, no cell phones...............! LOL!
Just EFFIN' GREAT POST MY FRIEND!

87 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 10:59:51pm

re: #70 lummox

Following the problems in the financial markets around the US and Europe, uncertainty has now hit Japan.
In the last seven days Origami Bank has folded. Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank announced plans to cut some of its branches.
Yesterday, it was announced that Karaoke Bank is up for sale and will likely go for a song, while today, shares in Kamikaze Bank were suspended after they nose-dived.
While Samurai Bank is soldiering on following sharp cutbacks, Ninja Bank is reported to have taken a hit, but they remain in the black.
Furthermore, 500 staff at Karate Bank got the chop and analysts report there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank where it is feared that staff may get a raw deal.


Last Monday when everyone was talking about the bailout someone posted a link to a report that someone had done and at the end of the report it gave a list of banks that were not on good term(close to closing). There was 2 on there from IL....News tonight said one of them had closed today.....That was one heck of long list......wonder how many more on that list is going to close real soon?

88 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:00:07pm

re: #86 realwest

Hey, real. Just about to go downstairs for lunch, what do you think of what happened in #60?

89 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:01:01pm

re: #78 Syrah

How very interesting. I will have to keep that idea in my back pocket. Does it really work?

For my situation, there is nothing to copy or save. It was a hobby kick-about piece of junk that I was just having some fun with. I was doing a clean install with a full disk partition scheme. I think I may have aborted the install at exactly the wrong moment, or that the disc was just doomed to fail anyway. Hard drives are kind of delicate in a "treat them very gently" sort of way. The machine had a very hard life before I got it. It may have just been the hd's time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Thanks for the idea though.

It really works - think of the physics.

Old drive - worn and sloppy.
Frozen drive - shrunk and tight.

You may only get 10 minutes or so out of the drive before terminal failure so don't putz around once you remove it from the fridge.

90 DesertSage  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:01:29pm

Rachel Ray has a thing for corn.

[Link: break.com...]

91 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:02:05pm

re: #70 lummox
Another ROTFLMAO! Hey whaddya do, stay up all day thinking these things up or what?!

92 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:02:43pm

re: #87 Inquisitive

Last Monday when everyone was talking about the bailout someone posted a link to a report that someone had done and at the end of the report it gave a list of banks that were not on good term(close to closing). There was 2 on there from IL....News tonight said one of them had closed today.....That was one heck of long list......wonder how many more on that list is going to close real soon?

Forgot to add.....I know yours was just a pun.....But

93 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:03:21pm

re: #81 lummox

If a politician found he had cannibals cannabis among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries smoke it before dinner.” —H. L. Mencken me

Since we have only what they let us have...

94 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:03:35pm

re: #87 Inquisitive

Last Monday when everyone was talking about the bailout someone posted a link to a report that someone had done and at the end of the report it gave a list of banks that were not on good term(close to closing). There was 2 on there from IL....News tonight said one of them had closed today.....That was one heck of long list......wonder how many more on that list is going to close real soon?

Heh - that was Moi.

95 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:04:04pm

re: #20 zombie

Can't you just low-level reformat it and start afresh? You lose any data on it, but unless the hard drive is physically damaged, can't you always just wipe it clean by reformatting it completely?

www.carbonite.com- $50 a year. I accidentally deleted about 20 gigs worth of movies and was able to recover them!

96 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:04:27pm

any thoughts on possible merger between GM & Chrysler? Can't be good...

97 SurferDoc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:04:59pm

Lummox: That was one great rant! Mind if I repost it over at Net Cafe?

98 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:05:36pm

re: #90 DesertSage

Rachel Ray has a thing for corn.

[Link: break.com...]

Also a thing for terrorist-chic.

99 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:05:56pm

re: #70 lummox

Following the problems in the financial markets around the US and Europe, uncertainty has now hit Japan.
In the last seven days Origami Bank has folded. Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank announced plans to cut some of its branches.
Yesterday, it was announced that Karaoke Bank is up for sale and will likely go for a song, while today, shares in Kamikaze Bank were suspended after they nose-dived.
While Samurai Bank is soldiering on following sharp cutbacks, Ninja Bank is reported to have taken a hit, but they remain in the black.
Furthermore, 500 staff at Karate Bank got the chop and analysts report there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank where it is feared that staff may get a raw deal.

I hear they are trying to unravel the positions taken by Ramen Bank.

100 Indymaestro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:07:07pm

Pair of suspects held after throwing molotov cocktail at McCain mural in Oregon:

[Link: www.katu.com...]

Oh those tolerant lefties, when will Obama contain the rage of his followers!

101 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:07:10pm

re: #71 victor_yugo

No, that's Free Willie.

/biggest waste of celluloid i've ever seen

Free Willy.

While supplies last.

102 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:07:39pm

re: #96 JeremiahRight

any thoughts on possible merger between GM & Chrysler? Can't be good...

General-Daimler America?

"I'm Jeremiah Wright, and I support G. D. America!"

103 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:08:06pm

re: #88 lazardo
I think it's bullshit but it doesn't matter if his son asked him to do it; a taser isn't a fucking toy - it has been known to KILL full grown men and that Trooper showed piss-poor or NO judgement at all.
What about the boozing, any comments on that?

104 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:08:39pm

GM & Chrysler are two limping former giants who over and over again zigged when the market zagged. Add on the almost impossible union commitments and bad management, sad to say but they just aren't very strong companies at this point.

IF they can figure out fuel effeciency or be actually innovative they might just have a chance. I wouldn't count on it though.

105 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:09:00pm

re: #101 stuiec

Free Willy.

While supplies last.

Free Tibet!

Georgia half-off!

106 stuiec  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:09:34pm

re: #75 Alouette

Keeping kosher in Dixie must be a real challenge.

107 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:09:42pm

re: #102 victor_yugo

General-Daimler America?

"I'm Jeremiah Wright, and I support G. D. America!"

LOL!

108 LizardoidCaptain  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:09:45pm

I'm dropping down a few lines from Bill Whittle's Essay titled Trinity: The Three Pillars of American Success:

The first of these three pillars has several names: private property, the free market, enlightened self-interest. But the first essential element of the American Trinity, and the hardest to come to grips with, is Capitalism.

Capitalism just galls some people. They just. Can't. Stand it.

Now I have thought about this one long and hard, and no matter how I look at it, I come to the same striking conclusion, and that is this:

Where you stand on the political spectrum, what you think of rich and poor people, and what you think about rich and poor nations and how they should act in the world, comes down, in my mind, to one single issue, and one only: Can wealth be created, or can it only be redistributed?

If you believe, as I do, that wealth can be manufactured out of thin air, then there is no limit to the amount of wealth you can amass. And since you are creating it out of thin air, there is no moral onus on making money -- you work hard to create it and have stolen from no one. There is an expression for this: you earned it.

Indeed, since charity depends on excess wealth, excess capacity, the more you make for yourself the better off everyone else is. You can even throw charity out the window if you are so hard-hearted; the fact remains that you will spend that money to get the things you want, and the more you have the more you can spend. That money goes to other people. This interchange is called "The Economy," and rich societies are rich because they understand in their bones the centerpiece of Capitalist thinking: Wealth can be created from thin air by human ingenuity and hard work.

Now people on the left have, in their guts, a revulsion towards the rich and the wealthy, because whenever they see wealth they naturally assume that it was stolen from people without any -- the poor. That rich man in the private jet has taken the wealth from all the poor people and is therefore a criminal.

109 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:09:48pm

re: #96 JeremiahRight

any thoughts on possible merger between GM & Chrysler? Can't be good...

Toilet bowls swirl to the right in the northern hemisphere - to the left in the southern.

Take your pick - either way they are going down ... it's only a matter of time.

Unless we socialize them. Vote carefully.

110 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:10:34pm

I always think of that clip where he screams "it's in the biiiiiiiiiii-ble!"

111 Gus 802  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:10:34pm

re: #100 Indymaestro


They look like a couple of thugs. Hope the prosecutor charges them with arson.

112 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:10:51pm

re: #77 Bobibutu

SpinRite
[Link: www.grc.com...]
[Link: www.grc.com...]

absolute killer app. Has saved my bacon only 3 times over 25 years + ... you don't think you'll ever need it till you do. The nice thing is you can pull your fat out of the fire after the fact.

It is wise to run his free stuff to insure you are not at risk on the net.

Thanks.

Most of my machines are just toys for me to play with. Old junk that would otherwise be in the trash. I put them through cyber-hell before they finally give up the ghost.

For my mission critical systems, I back-up like a mad-man. Spin-rite sounds like it is for something more important than just book marks, youtube clips and news article. I will keep it in mind though.

113 LizardoidCaptain  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:11:17pm

re: #109 Bobibutu

Toilet bowls swirl to the right in the northern hemisphere - to the left in the southern.

Take your pick - either way they are going down ... it's only a matter of time.

Unless we socialize them. Vote carefully.

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

114 realwest  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:11:50pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

115 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:12:42pm

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

Its also what happens when you add on pension benefits that assume the company will never face lean times.

116 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:12:52pm

re: #79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

She is a Cunucklehead, you know...

Hey now, no dissing Canucks is allowed. They're freaking bad-ass, doncha know.

Man, I am glad they are our allies.

117 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:12:59pm

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

You can't blame GM's probably solely on union stuff, the management was just as bad. The thing that really hurt though IMO was pretty much ignoring the small car market while Toyota and Honda ran circles around them.

118 rawmuse  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:13:28pm

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

119 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:14:38pm

[The Other Les pokes his head into the room and says,]

Never rush a cheeseburger.

[The Other Les just made one with Harvarti cheese on wheat bread. One of the problems with being my kind of alien symbiont is that I can't taste what he is tasting. Darn...]

120 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:14:57pm

re: #117 middlecon

the SUV/truck gravy train sure came to a screeching halt

121 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:15:12pm
We must believe in free will — we have no choice.

/I'd say hello Obama voters, but what's the point?

122 nightwatch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:16:07pm

REALWEST

jus sent a e-mes, blocked, and so now I ask, ya doing o.k?

Off to the rack with me....

RJB

123 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:16:08pm

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

What will happen with no solution is a combination of higher taxes and reduced benefits. I think everyoen under 50 pretty much realizes that reduced benefits will be a way of life.

124 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:16:12pm

re: #112 Syrah

Thanks.

Most of my machines are just toys for me to play with. Old junk that would otherwise be in the trash. I put them through cyber-hell before they finally give up the ghost.

For my mission critical systems, I back-up like a mad-man. Spin-rite sounds like it is for something more important than just book marks, youtube clips and news article. I will keep it in mind though.

Roger M/C ...

125 nightwatch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:17:17pm

re: #114 realwest

See YA!

126 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:17:22pm

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey now, no dissing Canucks is allowed. They're freaking bad-ass, doncha know.

Man, I am glad they are our allies.

I'm with you. That's a fierce man. Shame about the bear's cubs, though. Not a story with a happy ending.

127 victor_yugo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:17:24pm

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

A moonbat cow-orker of mine regaled us Friday with a story saying exactly that. Only they were sending defective parts to NASA, and had no paper trail to audit.

Company closed up two years later, left about 40 ppl unemployed.

128 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:17:29pm

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

Yeppers - and all the other goodies costs to tack on.

129 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:18:04pm

re: #114 realwest

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

Sleep well.

130 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:18:26pm

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

hey, no worries. Just print up some more money! I always wondered what it would be like pushing a wheelbarrow full of dollars around to buy a loaf of bread.

131 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:18:42pm

re: #124 Bobibutu

i love that, i like seeing 2 voodo2 video cards running doom 3 type stuff, just like laserdisc and other before their time oddities.

132 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:18:59pm

To deny free will is to deny personal responsibility for one's own actions. And in an age when one can kill more people with the stroke of a pen than with a life time's use of a personal weapon that is a pretty useful excuse.

133 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:19:25pm

re: #130 JeremiahRight

yup i keep telling people that not even cash is safe, their is a thing called inflation

134 Palandine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:19:32pm

re: #19 J.D.

Obama jewelry

Anagrams for "Obama Rocks"

Aback Rooms
Samba Crook
Backroom As
Cobras Amok
A Boar Mocks
A Smack Boor
Back As Moor
Bask Orca Om
Boar Sack Om
Bra Sack Moo
Bra Amok Cos
Bar Sack Moo
Rack Ma Boos
Rack Am Boos
Cask Oar Mob
Sack Oar Mob
Mac Oak Bros
Mac Soak Bro
Coma Ska Bro
Coma Ask Rob
Coma Ask Bro
Cram Ska Boo
Cram Ask Boo
Scam Oak Rob
Scam Oak Orb
Scam Oak Bro
Orca Ska Mob (fantastic band name!)
Arc Amok Sob
Car Mask Boo
Car Ska Boom
Scar Oak Mob
Scar Ma Book
Sac Amok Rob
Sac Okra Mob
Okra As Comb

135 lummox  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:20:09pm

"God is a Republican, and Santa Claus is a Democrat." — H.L. Mencken

136 Maximu§  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:20:21pm

Its 11:20 and Im bombed!

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:20:21pm

re: #130 JeremiahRight

hey, no worries. Just print up some more money! I always wondered what it would be like pushing a wheelbarrow full of dollars around to buy a loaf of bread.

I don't want to find out, so I'm voting for McCain. That's all for me till tomorrow.

138 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:21:54pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I don't want to find out, so I'm voting for McCain. That's all for me till tomorrow.

I'm voting for McCain too but do you really think any administration in 2008 is going to be tight with the dollars? Reagan has been just about the only president who ever cared and he's long gone :(

139 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:21:59pm

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

Damn nice find RM - thx.

140 William  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:23:32pm

Any thoughts on this Obama video?

I'm not familiar with this attorney, but he doesn't seem crazy and makes a compelling case.

141 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:24:09pm

re: #136 Maximu§

Its 11:20 and Im bombed!

/check out Kim from the last thread

142 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:24:10pm

re: #75 Alouette

I gave all my kids free will to do what they wanted. So now my youngest son is getting married to a young belle, the only eligible JEWISH girl in all of ALabama! It will be the FIRST "AUHENTIC" Jewish/Hasidic/Ultra-Orthodox weddin' in Alabama. The weddin' is in 4 weeks in Birmingham. Should I bre notifyin' the media?

Yee-Hahhhh!

Any lizards who live in Birmingam, give a shout out (through my website) http:www.jewish-history.com, "contact us" if you want to be at thi event.

OK, I may be a little slow, but here are the official rules.

If you must write "y'all," please at least spell it right. It's a contraction of "you all," not ya'll (ya? ll?).

And the final rule: Never address a lone individual as "y'all." It is the plural form of "you," and is to be used only in addressing two or more people. Example: "Hey, how y'all? How's y'momma'n'them?"

Word of caution: don't let yankee transplants who now live in the south (and therefore now know all there is to know about the south) tell you any different.

One last thing... ok two last things:
1. If you are (deranged and) do not believe in gun ownership, keep your mouth shut!
2. Do not even mention Auburn or 'Bama until you know who you're talking to! You want to live to see your grandchildren.

143 William  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:25:06pm
yup i keep telling people that not even cash is safe, their is a thing called inflation

There's a thing called compounding interest, too.

144 lummox  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:25:09pm

"Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is."
Josie Wales

145 LizardoidCaptain  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:25:26pm

re: #117 middlecon

You can't blame GM's probably solely on union stuff, the management was just as bad. The thing that really hurt though IMO was pretty much ignoring the small car mainrket while Toyota and Honda ran circles around them.

SUV's were more profitable and people were willing to pay. It was cheaper to make SUV's because they were essentiall all the same excecpt for trim. GM and Chrysler make compact cars, it's just that no one wants to buy them because the don't compare with Japan's version. Is Japan just superior to the USA at making cars or is there something more to it? I seriously doubt the American Engineers are not as smart as those in Japan. It has more to do with ability to make decisions in a fast moving market. What hinder's a rapid change on an assembly line. Cost, time, training, and will. How many times has the UAW has lawsuits against GM or Chrysler or had major strikes? Then how many has there been in Japan? Management is also a problem they have just gotten used to they business is done in the Auto Industry. Stagnation.

146 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:26:38pm

Back, anyone still awake?

147 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:27:30pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I'm with you. That's a fierce man. Shame about the bear's cubs, though. Not a story with a happy ending.

I agree, a bit of a sour ending, but shit! The dude beat a bear to death with a branch. And a female bear at that.

Let that sink in. A human beat a female bear to death with a branch. A bear! To death! With a freaking branch!

That dude has so much "street cred" right now he probably won't have to buy his own drinks for a year.

148 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:27:34pm

Still here, still awake. How long that's going to last? Well we will see. :)

149 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:28:10pm

re: #131 pegcity

i love that, i like seeing 2 voodo2 video cards running doom 3 type stuff, just like laserdisc and other before their time oddities.

Ah - Laserdisk - I actually had one once upon a time - my dtr confiscated it and the Sound of Music disk - she watched it almost non-stop as a baby and young girl.

I figured it was better to let her have it than attempt re-possession.

150 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:28:39pm

re: #148 BlueCanuck

harper still leading despite economy, are you getting crap in your newspapers like that these days

151 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:29:19pm

re: #142 LeePro


And the final rule: Never address a lone individual as "y'all." It is the plural form of "you," and is to be used only in addressing two or more people. Example: "Hey, how y'all? How's y'momma'n'them?"


Actually you can address someone as a plurality if they are regnant royalty, an editor, or have tapeworms.

152 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:29:49pm

re: #100 Indymaestro

Pair of suspects held after throwing molotov cocktail at McCain mural in Oregon:

[Link: www.katu.com...]

Oh those tolerant lefties, when will Obama contain the rage of his followers!

Let me know. I'll open an ice-skating rink in hell.

On second thought, he'd tax me out of business.

153 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:29:58pm

re: #149 Bobibutu

such strange technology, it had analog output , it was a giant CD, bah just weird.

154 winston06  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:30:02pm

hello every one

155 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:30:10pm

re: #145 LizardoidCaptain

SUV's were more profitable and people were willing to pay. It was cheaper to make SUV's because they were essentiall all the same excecpt for trim. GM and Chrysler make compact cars, it's just that no one wants to buy them because the don't compare with Japan's version. Is Japan just superior to the USA at making cars or is there something more to it? I seriously doubt the American Engineers are not as smart as those in Japan. It has more to do with ability to make decisions in a fast moving market. What hinder's a rapid change on an assembly line. Cost, time, training, and will. How many times has the UAW has lawsuits against GM or Chrysler or had major strikes? Then how many has there been in Japan? Management is also a problem they have just gotten used to they business is done in the Auto Industry. Stagnation.

Good pionts Captain, but no company can blame their problems on the employees, management has to take some blame in any company's failure. I live in the heart of (former) GM country, there are so many retirees who are just outright spoiled, and yes thats the word for it. Big pension, free healthcare. They live lives that other people can only dream of.

156 nightwatch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:30:52pm

re: #136 Maximu§

I'll give ya type-o logic, I be more bombed than you 3 yars posting,
Mr. Johnson holds me cards.....funny, he has not banned me yet.
Every court needs a jester I fathom.........where the ....there's me
glass..off to bed now

have fun youngster.....

157 Maximu§  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:31:12pm

re: #141 Killian Bundy

/check out Kim from the last thread

Thats me, armed to the freaking teeth

158 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:31:31pm

re: #155 middlecon

what i never understood was why gm didnt just bring over their european lineup.

opels aren't too bad.

i mean the cadillac caterra was a disaster but their small cars are not too bad.

159 RedSoxNation  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:31:58pm

God Damnit...why did the Rays have to have Wheeler come out for a fourth inning? And what the hell is wrong with Big Papi...He is got to break out sooner or later; otherwise, it is over. Pats tommorow and then Lester (do or die) on Monday...Go Sox...........................

P.S. Please say a prayer for my fellow Red Sox fan, Dean Barnett.

160 nightwatch  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:33:15pm

re: #148 BlueCanuck


Can I just wave and jump off the trolley fore ya see me?

161 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:33:45pm

re: #158 pegcity

Ford once remarked that it couldn't bring over their new Focus because it would cost more than a Mustang.

Wth.

162 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:33:55pm

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?

Merci in advance...

163 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:33:58pm

re: #159 RedSoxNation

God Damnit...why did the Rays have to have Wheeler come out for a fourth inning? And what the hell is wrong with Big Papi...He is got to break out sooner or later; otherwise, it is over. Pats tommorow and then Lester (do or die) on Monday...Go Sox...........................

P.S. Please say a prayer for my fellow Red Sox fan, Dean Barnett.


Red Sox split on the road, I think any team would be happy with that. They are the favorites to win the World Series.

164 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:34:31pm

re: #158 pegcity

Saturn's lineup includes Opels, actually. You might want to check those out.

165 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:34:56pm

[The Other Les has another thought for the day]

"Politicians are primarily concerned about three things, getting elected, getting reelected, and getting laid."

[As far as I can tell it doesn't hurt.]

166 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:35:02pm

re: #161 lazardo

true, their european car's arent junk and actually cost money to produce.

the new saturns are nice for that very reason, their just rebadged opels

167 SurferDoc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:35:06pm

re: #154 winston06

hello every one

Hiya!

168 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:36:24pm

re: #153 pegcity

such strange technology, it had analog output , it was a giant CD, bah just weird.

Hey - it entertained and educated my kid for 4-5 years - passing fancy.

I'm a techno nut and loved it. Weird? yes - but only by looking back.

169 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:36:30pm

re: #166 pegcity

German cars aren't junk. French cars, on the other hand... [=

/Top Gear fan

170 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:36:39pm

re: #164 lazardo

Saturn's lineup includes Opels, actually. You might want to check those out.

Gm needs 4 car divisions tops, this what 7 division crap needs to stop.

their dealer network is so messed up, this selling one car as a chevrolet and one pontiac and another gmc is just a waste of money

171 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:37:00pm

re: #60 lazardo

Good afternoon, Reptilia! Someone just replied to a comment on my art forum saying that the trooper-in-question's son literally asked for it.

Wth.

Ok, lazardo, you're sorta young. What if you asked your dad what a knife in the belly feels like... you expect a demonstration...?

}:-(

172 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:37:05pm

re: #162 Cognito

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?

Merci in advance...

Do you have a specific question?

173 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:37:28pm

re: #169 lazardo

i have a german car, love it, until i break something on it.

i swear they stuff razor blades all over the engine bay, everytime i do anything i cut myself.

174 pegcity  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:38:00pm

re: #172 Bobibutu

voip on the iphone?

maybe a jailbroken hacked one, no way apple will allow that though stock

175 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:38:59pm

re: #170 pegcity

Gm needs 4 car divisions tops, this what 7 division crap needs to stop.

their dealer network is so messed up, this selling one car as a chevrolet and one pontiac and another gmc is just a waste of money

So which divisions would you keep and which one's would you dump?

176 Egfrow  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:39:09pm

re: #155 middlecon

Good pionts Captain, but no company can blame their problems on the employees, management has to take some blame in any company's failure. I live in the heart of (former) GM country, there are so many retirees who are just outright spoiled, and yes thats the word for it. Big pension, free healthcare. They live lives that other people can only dream of.

I did point some the blame at management. Management Stagnation is a by product of bureaucracies of aging publicly traded enterprises. Share holders only want profits, Management want's to make shareholders happy. Share holders have no responsibility for longer term strategic thought. Neither should Management. Can you tell I'm a little biased against large publicly owned companies? I think Ford will be the only company to come through this crisis in the long run. They are now looking for long term stake in their own interest.

177 LeePro  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:40:11pm

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey now, no dissing Canucks is allowed. They're freaking bad-ass, doncha know.

Man, I am glad they are our allies.

YEAH! ! !

And the {Blue} ones are our friends!
;D

178 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:40:14pm

re: #150 pegcity

Heck ya. The Red Star is so far in the tank for the libs it's sickening. Actually saw the english leaders debate and wished I hadn't run out of booze before watching it. If one of the opposing leaders had called Harpers administration pro-Bush one more time by the end I would have been short a computer.

179 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:40:40pm

re: #172 Bobibutu

Do you have a specific question?

I have a crummy cell signal here at home, but I've got good wifi, so I thought VOIP might be a good option. I see that Fring has released a new app for the iPhone, but I don't know anything about how VOIP works, really... Apparently I need something called SIP or Skype.

A babe in the woods, really. All new to me.

180 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:41:15pm

re: #174 pegcity

voip on the iphone?

maybe a jailbroken hacked one, no way apple will allow that though stock

Sure they do. A couple of providers now, and at least one more on the way...

181 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:41:22pm

re: #177 LeePro

Morning {Lee}, sorry if I am a little slow today. ;)

/been up since 12 noon today.
//one week till B.C.

182 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:41:32pm

re: #162 Cognito

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?

Merci in advance...

I only know that it can sound really poor at times. The signal will wash in and out like the waves on the seashore.

I received a call from a call center located somewhere in Asia. They were using VOIP. It sounded absolutely dreadful. The caller's thick Asian accent did not help much either.

183 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:42:00pm

re: #171 LeePro

I guess they thought that Tasers weren't lethal.

Or that the associated meme was too funny not to re-enact.

/idiots, either way.

184 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:42:03pm

re: #142 LeePro


7. Don't order wheat toast at the Cracker Barrel. If you do this, everyone will know you're from Ohio. Eat the biscuits like God intended and for goodness sake, don't put sugar in your grits.

I almost did that on my first introduction to grits. My buddy from Georgia looked at me like I was about to put a baby in a blender. "Grits ain't fuckin' oatmeal, stupid"!

185 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:42:14pm

re: #169 lazardo

German cars aren't junk. French cars, on the other hand... [=

/Top Gear fan

Hey ... the du cheveu (2 horse) - was no slouch and the

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

was way cool.

186 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:43:08pm

re: #182 Syrah

Ha -- that sounds like a nightmare. I've been in similar situations and been horrified to find myself vaguely murmuring, "Yeah... all right... yeah..."

Meanwhile thinking, "What am I assenting to, here?"

187 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:43:53pm

re: #185 Bobibutu

Those were Le Glory Days. The DS was groovy. These days though, only Citroen (still?) gets it right.

188 Cygnus  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:44:05pm

re: #105 victor_yugo

Free Tibet!

Georgia half-off!

Save the whales!
Earn valuable prizes!

189 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:44:21pm

re: #174 pegcity

voip on the iphone?

maybe a jailbroken hacked one, no way apple will allow that though stock

Yeah - that's why I asked for a specific question.

Lots of chiselers out there.

190 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:44:48pm

Posted upthread, but definitely worth emphasizing:

"If Obama IS a natural-born American citizen, WHAT IS HE HIDING?"

/it Zero Boy is NOT a natural-born American citizen, he's ineligible to serve as prez!

191 Cygnus  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:45:11pm

re: #110 JeremiahRight

I always think of that clip where he screams "it's in the biiiiiiiiiii-ble!"

Some of those guys can get 10 syllables out of a two-syllable word.

192 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:45:26pm

re: #190 Karridine

My duh! Linkie here

193 SurferDoc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:46:01pm

Nite, All....

/Stay frosty

194 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:46:03pm

re: #189 Bobibutu

Yeah - that's why I asked for a specific question.

Lots of chiselers out there.

I'll assume you didn't intend that to be as insulting as it sounds.

If you can provide any advice, I'd appreciate a short discussion.

Otherwise, thanks anyway.

195 Cygnus  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:46:45pm

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

Holy crap.

196 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:46:51pm

re: #183 lazardo

Nay, tazeth me not brother.

197 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:46:56pm

re: #190 Karridine

Posted upthread, but definitely worth emphasizing:

/it Zero Boy is NOT a natural-born American citizen, he's ineligible to serve as prez!

I'm not a Michael Savage fan, but he was saying for a long time that BOTH McCain and Obama were ineligible due to not being born in the US, since McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

I'm not really familiar with the case against Obama, there's no proof he wasn't born in Hawaii is there?

198 aussiemagpie  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:47:05pm

G'day from Down Under to {everyone} on a lovely Sunday afternoon - glorious spring weather!

From Andrew Bolt's blog - something especially for our Canadian lizards

Interview (sort of) with Stephane Dion!

Of course the interview should have been in French according to some commenters........

199 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:47:19pm

re: #190 Karridine

McCain is Panamanian.

//////

200 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:47:33pm

re: #140 William

Any thoughts on this Obama video?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I'm not familiar with this attorney, but he doesn't seem crazy and makes a compelling case.

well, the Obama "fake" birth certificate issue was officially laid to rest on LGF in August in this post. But, I have never heard of this man Philip J Berg, or his federal lawsuit, or the theory that Obama was born in Kenya, although it does sound like it is being backed up by his own relatives. It definitely will be interesting to see where this goes, I'm intrigued.

201 BignJames  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:49:03pm

re: #184 Slumbering Behemoth

I almost did that on my first introduction to grits. My buddy from Georgia looked at me like I was about to put a baby in a blender. "Grits ain't fuckin' oatmeal, stupid"!

Heh, butter, salt,pepper....maybe cheese.

202 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:49:16pm

re: #197 middlecon

I'm not a Michael Savage fan, but he was saying for a long time that BOTH McCain and Obama were ineligible due to not being born in the US, since McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

I'm not really familiar with the case against Obama, there's no proof he wasn't born in Hawaii is there?

Both parents of McCain were American citizens at time of birth... O-Boy's mother only, and she had NOT lived as an adult in America for 5 years (19 at Obama's birth)...

Watch the video... its compelling, real-world stuff! NO legalese...

203 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:50:08pm

re: #199 lazardo

fortunately, McCain is a natural-born American citizen... and has produced certification of such.

204 Syrah  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:50:31pm

re: #186 Cognito

Ha -- that sounds like a nightmare. I've been in similar situations and been horrified to find myself vaguely murmuring, "Yeah... all right... yeah..."

Meanwhile thinking, "What am I assenting to, here?"

I would deffer to Bobibutu on the technical workings. All that I know of it is from anecdotal experience.

It might be good for your situation, it might not. I really don't know.

The company I work for has a pilot program in the works for using VOIP for some of our work. I have only heard positive reports about it. I doubt if they have tested how the call sounds on the other end that much.

I raised a concern about it after I got that VOIP call. The program has since been stopped at work. I don't know if it was because of the concerns that I raised or some other factor.

I will have to look into it more. It could mean a huge cost savings for us if it can be made to work.

205 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:50:38pm

re: #195 Cygnus

Holy crap.

That's a bit inflammatory, that.

And after much hair-pulling and circle-running, it ends on a note that is positively bizarre:

Walker, who resigned as the comptroller general and head of the Government Accountability Office in March, said despite the current economic troubles facing the nation, he does not think a recession is imminent.

What?

If you're looking for true bearish analysis, go here.. That's the real stuff.

206 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:51:32pm

re: #187 lazardo

Those were Le Glory Days. The DS was groovy. These days though, only Citroen (still?) gets it right.

In every culture there are brilliant stars ...

I am reminded of a joke written on the wall of a popular French restaurant in Saigon back in the 60's.

something like this ...

Heaven is where you have an American house, a French mistress and live in Japan.

Hell is where the English are the cooks,
the Germans are the Police, and the Americans are the lovers.

207 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:51:44pm

re: #200 JeremiahRight

A link to the PDF (stipulating the specifics for the Court) was on LGF about 2 nights ago... I've got the PDF if you want it, Right...

208 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:52:11pm

re: #201 BignJames

Bacon! Must have bacon!

209 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:52:43pm

re: #204 Syrah

I would deffer to Bobibutu on the technical workings. All that I know of it is from anecdotal experience.

It might be good for your situation, it might not. I really don't know.

The company I work for has a pilot program in the works for using VOIP for some of our work. I have only heard positive reports about it. I doubt if they have tested how the call sounds on the other end that much.

I raised a concern about it after I got that VOIP call. The program has since been stopped at work. I don't know if it was because of the concerns that I raised or some other factor.

I will have to look into it more. It could mean a huge cost savings for us if it can be made to work.

I do a fair bit of overseas calling. Could be useful. But I literally don't know how to proceed.

It's like being born on a Monday and trying to pick out a flat-screen television by Tuesday. "What's Sony? Is it a good one?"

210 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:52:47pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

So, the fact that 6 of you met in San Francisco is somehow supposed to assure us this isn't a leftist trap?!?

Better question: Why did these start only after I moved out of Walnut Creek?

211 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:52:59pm

re: #203 Karridine

I won't go deeper into Obama not being "natural-born" though. I was born to Filipino citizens on U.S. soil. >_>

212 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:53:26pm

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Eeeew....

213 middlecon  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:53:52pm

I think Occam's razor works for Obama's Hawaii birth, there is simply no evidence otherwise.

214 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:54:33pm

re: #199 lazardo

McCain is Panamanian.

//////

McCain was born to a deployed Naval officer, the Constitution says "natural born", not born within the geographical border. Big difference if you ask me.

215 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:54:40pm

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Bacon! Must have bacon!

I know what you mean. Sometimes I just get hungry for bacon, too.

216 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:54:49pm

re: #194 Cognito

I'll assume you didn't intend that to be as insulting as it sounds.

If you can provide any advice, I'd appreciate a short discussion.

Otherwise, thanks anyway.

What is your question Cog?

217 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:54:53pm

re: #198 aussiemagpie

Wow, and they actually broadcast that? I knew from before that Stephane was weak, but that was just sickening. Hopefully this will push the undecideds to the Conservative camp.

218 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:55:21pm

Where was Lord President Onama borrn and were either of his parents U.S. citizens?

/the rest is pretty easy to figure out

219 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:56:24pm

re: #211 lazardo

I don't think your situation parallels Obama's... and the video is quite compelling, in that Lawyer Berg says: "IF, however, Obama WAS a natural-born citizen, he LOST THAT when his mother married Soetero AND Barry's step-father (adopted him OR acknowledged him) in Indonesia."

It doesn't rest on one tiny piece, but on a whole range of legalities barring Obama from the US presidency!

220 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:56:31pm

re: #210 gmsc

So, the fact that 6 of you met in San Francisco is somehow supposed to assure us this isn't a leftist trap?!?

Better question: Why did these start only after I moved out of Walnut Creek?

It is a tinfoil hat conspiracy. Because - I just moved in.

221 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:56:47pm

re: #214 JeremiahRight

Note the heavy application of sarc slashes.

222 gmsc  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:57:06pm

re: #200 JeremiahRight

well, the Obama "fake" birth certificate issue was officially laid to rest on LGF in August in this post. But, I have never heard of this man Philip J Berg, or his federal lawsuit, or the theory that Obama was born in Kenya, although it does sound like it is being backed up by his own relatives. It definitely will be interesting to see where this goes, I'm intrigued.

There's details of the progress (as much as can be discussed while the case is ongoing) of the Berg vs. Obama case at Obamacrimes.com.

223 Cognito  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:57:31pm

re: #216 Bobibutu

What is your question Cog?

Well, the first question was whether you're familiar with VOIP on iPhone. The "chislers" comment didn't inspire confidence, as VOIP on the iPhone is completely legitimate.

Setting that aside.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with SIP -- indeed what that is, exactly -- versus Skype.

Any thoughts?

224 lazardo  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:57:53pm

re: #219 Karridine

Thankfully, my parents married years before they had me in the States. I'm currently holding dual citizenship (makes college a lot more affordable!) but I've been dropped hints that I may have to renounce one of them after a certain amount of time...

225 JeremiahRight  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:57:53pm

re: #207 Karridine

A link to the PDF (stipulating the specifics for the Court) was on LGF about 2 nights ago... I've got the PDF if you want it, Right...

I missed that one. Was it an actual post or something from the comments?

226 Karridine  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:57:59pm

re: #218 Killian Bundy

Obama was born in Kenya, two days later flown to Hawaii and his birth registered by his 19-year-old American-citizen mother...

...but it gets worse...

227 William  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:58:24pm

re: #200 JeremiahRight

well, the Obama "fake" birth certificate issue was officially laid to rest on LGF in August in this post. But, I have never heard of this man Philip J Berg, or his federal lawsuit, or the theory that Obama was born in Kenya, although it does sound like it is being backed up by his own relatives. It definitely will be interesting to see where this goes, I'm intrigued.

That LGF post cites FactCheck.org. If you watch the clip, they state that the Annenberg Foundation funds FactCheck.org and Obama sat on the board of the Annenberg Foundation.

The Obama "birth certificate" has been published in 2 places (electronically, not physically): the Obama campaign website, and FactCheck.org.

228 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 11, 2008 11:58:54pm

re: #223 Cognito

Well, the first question was whether you're familiar with VOIP on iPhone. The "chislers" comment didn't inspire confidence, as VOIP on the iPhone is completely legitimate.

Setting that aside.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with SIP -- indeed what that is, exactly -- versus Skype.

Any thoughts?

Go with Skype.

229 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:00:07am

re: #225 JeremiahRight

From the comments...

Wait one, I'll put it online for you to Download and read, Jeremiah

230 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:00:11am

So 2 college students flew from Hawaii to Kenya and back for what reason?

AND are we to assume that any children born to teenage mothers are not eligible to become president?

I'm not going to research every president but surely one of them was born to a mother younger than 21.

231 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:00:30am

re: #228 Bobibutu

I concur. I use Skype to talk to my brother in China and we get pretty good sound quality most of the time. And when it's poor it's not that bad. Worst I have had is an echo.

232 lazardo  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:01:02am

Gonna head out for a bit. Gotta take pictures of marketing gondolas (i.e. those brand-product "stand" thingies) because I'll be making one for my ID (Industrial Design) class. Cheers!

233 JeremiahRight  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:01:05am

re: #221 lazardo

Note the heavy application of sarc slashes.

yes. right. it's been a long day for me. midnight out here on the left coast...

234 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:01:32am

re: #151 The Other Les

LOL! ! !

235 Cognito  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:01:59am

re: #228 Bobibutu

Go with Skype.

Thanks. Do you know whether it's possible to receive incoming calls via Skype on the iPhone?

Or, for that matter -- why is there not simply a Skype app, as opposed to a middle man like Fring?

236 William  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:02:06am

Here's that Obama video again, in case it seems lost in the thread:

237 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:03:41am

re: #231 BlueCanuck

I concur. I use Skype to talk to my brother in China and we get pretty good sound quality most of the time. And when it's poor it's not that bad. Worst I have had is an echo.

Top of the line - constantly upgrading service. Nuff for me as well. I use it every day vs. landline.

238 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:03:54am

re: #226 Karridine

Obama was born in Kenya, two days later flown to Hawaii and his birth registered by his 19-year-old American-citizen mother...

...but it gets worse...

/if true, that would make him legally ineligible for the Presidency of the United States, it's amazing the Bonkeys would let it get this far, linky?

239 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:03:58am

re: #219 Karridine

I don't think your situation parallels Obama's... and the video is quite compelling, in that Lawyer Berg says: "IF, however, Obama WAS a natural-born citizen, he LOST THAT when his mother married Soetero AND Barry's step-father (adopted him OR acknowledged him) in Indonesia."

It doesn't rest on one tiny piece, but on a whole range of legalities barring Obama from the US presidency!

Being born an American citizen is a birth right that neither Obama's mother or his step-father can abrogate by claiming Obama is an Indonesian. All evidence suggests Obama was born an US citizen and no one can repudiate that citizenship except Obama himself, not his mother, step-father, or crazy uncle.

240 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:05:05am

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Morning {Lee}, sorry if I am a little slow today. ;)

/been up since 12 noon today.
//one week till B.C.

B.C.?

241 Syrah  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:05:20am

Goodnight Lizards.

The morning comes too soon.

Must get some shut-eye.

242 Cognito  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:06:31am

re: #237 Bobibutu

Top of the line - constantly upgrading service. Nuff for me as well. I use it every day vs. landline.

Do you use the pay-as-you-go service? Or the subscription?

243 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:06:39am

re: #241 Syrah

Goodnight Lizards.

The morning comes too soon.

Must get some shut-eye.

Good night, Syrah!

244 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:06:53am

re: #235 Cognito

Thanks. Do you know whether it's possible to receive incoming calls via Skype on the iPhone?

Or, for that matter -- why is there not simply a Skype app, as opposed to a middle man like Fring?

If you have an internet connection to it ... yes.

The rest take up with the mfgs help desk.

245 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:06:55am

re: #225 JeremiahRight

I missed that one. Was it an actual post or something from the comments?

Here it is, PDF (link for Download on the bottom of the frame)

246 William  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:08:08am

And if you think FactCheck.org is the last word on things, have a look at their recent defense of Obama here:

Obama (August 2007): "We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there."

At the time, then-Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney attacked Obama for the remark. But Obama was on solid ground. As The Associated Press concluded...

Was Obama "dishonorable" to say what he did? That's pretty strong language.

[Link: www.factcheck.org...]


For an elected official to state our troops are "just air-raiding villages and killing civilians" is, at the very least, dishonorable.

247 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:09:02am

re: #240 LeePro

B.C.?

British Columbia. Going to a business convention and taking a week off from work at the same time. Ahhhh, the glourious Okanagan Valley.

248 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:09:04am

re: #239 Neo Con since 9-11 Well, it seems American law sees it otherwise... according to Lawyer Berg, and a significant amount of case law precedents...

249 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:10:00am

re: #192 Karridine

Already posted #140 above

250 JeremiahRight  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:11:19am

re: #245 Karridine

Here it is, PDF (link for Download on the bottom of the frame)

awesome. thank you. also, I posted the youtube video in the spinoff links, only to see it had already been posted there an hour previous! Whoops, my bad. 1,000 pardons

251 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:11:35am

re: #239 Neo Con since 9-11

Being born an American citizen is a birth right that neither Obama's mother or his step-father can abrogate by claiming Obama is an Indonesian. All evidence suggests Obama was born an US citizen and no one can repudiate that citizenship except Obama himself, not his mother, step-father, or crazy uncle.

Agree, and THIS is part of Berg's suit: Obama had a chance (or chances) to retain or regain his citizenship, but apparently hasn't...

And even then, it would be "Naturalized", not natural-born...

The laws at that time were quite specific, Neo

252 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:12:18am

If this Obama 'citizenship' thing has legs than why would the McCain campaign keep it silent?

253 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:12:22am

re: #247 BlueCanuck

British Columbia. Going to a business convention and taking a week off from work at the same time. Ahhhh, the glourious Okanagan Valley.

Countless relaxation bombs upon you.

BC - every human should see it while on the planet.

254 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:13:58am

re: #249 LeePro

Yes'm, that's what I was referring to in #190 ...

255 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:15:14am

re: #252 middlecon

So that it is uncovered, discovered and MADE PUBLIC by We, the People and NOT by McCain or his people!

In fact, Berg is a lifelong Dem, and he's really upset about this crap!

256 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:15:22am

re: #200 JeremiahRight

re: #227 William

Not that hard to get birth certificate. I had a child in 1971, who died within 30 minutes. The hospital called it a stillbirth — no birth certificate. I demanded a birth certificate (live birth) and got it!

It can be done!

257 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:15:25am

re: #242 Cognito

Do you use the pay-as-you-go service? Or the subscription?

Subscription. $20 +/_ ?

258 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:16:08am

re: #253 Bobibutu

2nd time to Kelowna, third time to B.C. Went there for my honeymoon with the ex back in 95.

259 Cognito  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:17:45am

re: #257 Bobibutu

Subscription. $20 +/_ ?

Thanks.

260 rawmuse  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:17:46am

re: #252 middlecon

If this Obama 'citizenship' thing has legs than why would the McCain campaign keep it silent?

And why didn't the Clintons run with it during the primaries? We're talking about the Clintons, the original Arkansas hit squad.

I think it is a dry hole.

261 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:18:59am
262 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:19:10am

re: #256 LeePro

re: #227 William

Not that hard to get birth certificate. I had a child in 1971, who died within 30 minutes. The hospital called it a stillbirth — no birth certificate. I demanded a birth certificate (live birth) and got it!

It can be done!

Good on 'ya babe - demand! The person on the other side is just a stupid (no dis) clerk - person shuffler.

263 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:19:30am

So what would you say Karridine is Obama a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia?

264 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:19:41am

re: #260 rawmuse

I think it is a dry hole.

Before or after reading the Brief (watching the video)?

I gave it up as lost more than a month ago, only to find that this lifelong Dem is pursuing it in Federal court...

265 William  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:20:02am

re: #252 middlecon

If this Obama 'citizenship' thing has legs than why would the McCain campaign keep it silent?

Don't forget that McCain claimed Rev Wright was off the table. McCain is afraid of "looking bad."

266 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:20:18am

re: #260 rawmuse

And why didn't the Clintons run with it during the primaries? We're talking about the Clintons, the original Arkansas hit squad.

I think it is a dry hole.

Monday/Tues will tell.

267 Maximu§  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:20:35am

re: #198 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone} on a lovely Sunday afternoon - glorious spring weather!

From Andrew Bolt's blog - something especially for our Canadian lizards

Interview (sort of) with Stephane Dion!

Of course the interview should have been in French according to some commenters........

Is is Sunday down in Aussie?

268 rawmuse  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:21:12am

re: #264 Karridine

I watched the whole vid. I have faith that if the claim had merit, the Clintons would have pressed the case, with vigor.

269 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:22:00am

re: #263 middlecon

So what would you say Karridine is Obama a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia?

Can't say, Middle, because Obama is hiding relevant documents from us!

The lawyer says, "IF you're a natural-born citizen, WHAT ARE YOU HIDING, Obama?"

/I don't care which he is, only that we recognize he's NOT a 'natural-born American citizen'

270 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:22:38am

re: #247 BlueCanuck

: : : slaps forehead : : :
Duh!
;D

271 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:22:39am

re: #268 rawmuse

I watched the whole vid. I have faith that if the claim had merit, the Clintons would have pressed the case, with vigor.

So it's ka ka poo poo?

272 rawmuse  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:22:44am

niters!

273 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:23:42am

re: #272 rawmuse

niters!

Sleep well.

274 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:24:00am

re: #270 LeePro

No problem. I still have problems trying to decipher your state codes. :)

275 JeremiahRight  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:24:08am

re: #260 rawmuse

And why didn't the Clintons run with it during the primaries? We're talking about the Clintons, the original Arkansas hit squad.

I think it is a dry hole.

this Washington Times article says:

Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven't heeded the party's call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention... Mr. Berg said he was contacted about filing the lawsuit by a member or associate of the group PUMA, which was formed to support Mrs. Clinton shortly after she withdrew from the race.

276 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:24:13am

re: #263 middlecon

So what would you say Karridine is Obama a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia?

Forgive me for jumping on Karradine's question, but even the fight the smears site states that Obama is a former Kenyan citizen.

277 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:24:17am

Night rawmuse, sleep well.

278 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:24:58am

re: #268 rawmuse

I agree... but that concurrence (the Clintons, power-hungry duo that they were, should have pursued this with vigor) doesn't mean that because they didn't (maybe Berg got a nudge from them) the case is without merit.

It appears to be a strong argument, Muse... we'll see...

279 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:25:39am

I watched the whole video and it comes down to if you really believe that Obama's mother would fly to Kenya and back just to have a baby in a Kenyan hospital or village instead of an American one...Wha?

AND then to say that ONLY Indonesian citizens were allowed to go to Indonesian schools? So they were supposed to leave Barry as an outcast because he wasn't an Indonesian citizen? There were no 'exceptions' to this rule?

There are always people with political lawsuits, I'm sure there are hundreds of them from troofers trying to get their crazy theories proved. Alex Jones probably has a cadre of lawyers.

280 William  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:26:25am

re: #268 rawmuse

I watched the whole vid. I have faith that if the claim had merit, the Clintons would have pressed the case, with vigor.

According to the video, the lawsuit was filed August 21, 2008. Hillary was long out of the race.

Or are you saying HRC would have filed her own lawsuit before then?

281 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:26:37am

re: #276 gmsc

Forgive me for jumping on Karradine's question, but even the fight the smears site states that Obama is a former Kenyan citizen.

What I think it refers to is his dual citizenship that would have come from his father.

282 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:26:50am

re: #258 BlueCanuck

2nd time to Kelowna, third time to B.C. Went there for my honeymoon with the ex back in 95.

My honeymoon: Nova Scotia, P.E.I., New Brunswick, Quebec.

Beautiful! My only trip outside of the USA!

283 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:27:08am

re: #251 Karridine

Agree, and THIS is part of Berg's suit: Obama had a chance (or chances) to retain or regain his citizenship, but apparently hasn't...

And even then, it would be "Naturalized", not natural-born...

The laws at that time were quite specific, Neo

If Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother, and all evidence indicates he was, and if he never renounced his citizenship of the US, he is a natural born citizen. Obama does not need to do anything to retain or regain his natural born status. His parents can never renounce his citizenship for him.
This issue is a non-starter. Worse it's a distraction. This citizenship nonsense has been debunked. There are thousand reasons to vote against Obama. Spreading rumors about Obama's Indonesian citizanship takes time away from talking about his socialist leanings, his bill proposing to give 900 billion to the UN, his plan to dismantle the USA nuclear arsenal, support for radical ACORN like groups, and nationalize the healthcare and oil industry.
Focusing on disproved non issues takes valuable time away from the real issues

284 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:28:28am

re: #262 Bobibutu

Good on 'ya babe - demand! The person on the other side is just a stupid (no dis) clerk - person shuffler.

;D

Her name's Carol.
She's pretty proud of me, too!

285 JeremiahRight  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:29:16am

re: #283 Neo Con since 9-11

yeah there's that. you know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true...

286 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:29:20am

re: #282 LeePro

My honeymoon: Nova Scotia, P.E.I., New Brunswick, Quebec.

Beautiful! My only trip outside of the USA!

If that was your only trip outside the USA, I can't think of better places to visit. The Canadian Maritimes are a beautiful area. Been there myself on a family trip.

287 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:30:36am

Later Lizards, I'm outta here. Play nicely and no cussin'!

288 Slumbering Behemoth  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:30:42am

re: #212 Karridine

Aw c'mon, that picture is adorable.

re: #215 gmsc

If someone told me yesterday that they knew of a way to make bacon 100 times better, I would have said they were crazy. But that is what I would have said yesterday.

:drools:

289 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:31:19am

Even IF the whole citizen thing was completely true, what are the odds that the case gets resolved before the election?

Less than zero.

Its a true non-starter, probably won't change a single vote on just very slight at best circumstancial evidence.

Beat Obama on the issues.

290 William  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:31:44am

re: #275 JeremiahRight

this Washington Times article says:

Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven't heeded the party's call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention... Mr. Berg said he was contacted about filing the lawsuit by a member or associate of the group PUMA, which was formed to support Mrs. Clinton shortly after she withdrew from the race.


Interesting. From a user comment on that article, take it for what it's worth:


By: BrianH

The Indonesian issue: as a child, 6-10, he would have had to take his mother's adoptive citizenship. When she divorced and returned to the US, there is no record she re-instated her American citizenship, and hence it was up to Barrack to do it for himself, between the ages of 18 - 21.
At age 20, he was still using his Indonesian passport. Neither prior to that time nor in the subsequent 1 year he had to swear the Oath of Allegiance in front of a qualified official is there any record he did so. At age 22, the window closed.

So his only active remaining citizenship is Indonesian.

September 3, 2008 at 4:14 a.m.

291 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:31:47am

re: #274 BlueCanuck

No problem. I still have problems trying to decipher your state codes. :)

You've got the harder job — 10 provinces vs. 50 states. ;D

292 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:31:56am

re: #279 middlecon

"Indonesia was at war... ONLY Indonesian citizens could attend school..."

Its no stretch at all... but answering only this question evades the bigger question: "Why does Obama refuse to release other documents (Harvard, Columbia, Annenberg and Birth Certificate) that could definitively CLEAR THIS UP?"

/I care, for America's sake, and I've seen SO MUCH OTHER connivance and charlatanism on Obama's part that I'm in NO WAY inclined to just 'give him the benefit of the doubt', Middle

293 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:33:06am

The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging

If I had only one record to be stranded om a desert island with.

/a.k.a. the Obama campaign

294 William  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:33:35am

re: #289 middlecon

Beat Obama on the issues.

Why not "all of the above," to use a recent turn of phrase.

295 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:33:37am

I saw the clip of the woman at the McCain rally saying that Obama was an 'arab'.

Now THAT is the type of thing that loses votes for McCain, to have people see that someone so uneducated could show up to a McCain rally. People don't want to be identified with that kind of ignorance.

The same thing applies to Code Pinkers at Obama rallies.

296 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:34:56am

re: #276 gmsc

: : : sniff, sniff : : :

Careful about feeding the trolls.

297 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:35:39am

re: #283 Neo Con since 9-11

If Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother, and all evidence indicates he was, and if he never renounced his citizenship of the US, he is a natural born citizen.

But all evidence does NOT indicate Obama was born in Hawaii... THAT's the problem, here.

Some say Obama was born in Hospital A, and other knowledgeable family members say Hospital B.

And FactCheck.org (quoted above by #276 gmsc) is an Annenberg Foundation subsidiary, and so MIGHT have some conflict of interest here... :D

298 JeremiahRight  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:38:13am

I won't get my hopes up yet on this citizenship thing just yet, besides there are so many other things that should disqualify BHO like his socialist leanings, lack of executive experience, past and current associations, etc. 12:36 A.M. gotta call it a night

299 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:39:04am

re: #286 BlueCanuck

If that was your only trip outside the USA, I can't think of better places to visit. The Canadian Maritimes are a beautiful area. Been there myself on a family trip.

Well, ok. I'll admit that New Brunswick was kinda boring, and Quebec treated us like shit, but Nova Scotia and P.E.I. were absolutely delightful!

300 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:39:39am

re: #298 JeremiahRight

Agree.

And with that, I'm off to enjoy what's left of this sunny, jasmine-scented Sunday in beautiful, suburban Bangkok... flower of the Orient...

/bbiaw, y'all

301 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:40:18am

A couple of interesting links on the Obama COLB issue:

Sites that follow this issue regularly:
America's Right
Obama Crimes

Posts:
Berg: ‘Country Headed to Constitutional Crisis’

302 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:40:55am

re: #217 BlueCanuck

Wow, and they actually broadcast that? I knew from before that Stephane was weak, but that was just sickening. Hopefully this will push the undecideds to the Conservative camp.

Sorry about the delay in replying - got carried away with doing the washing!

Totally unbelievable isn't it? And the fact that the interviewer could NOT make him even understand a little bit?

303 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:41:11am

Aside from the COLB issue, if Obama becomes president, could he pass the security check?

304 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:44:15am

re: #299 LeePro

Well, ok. I'll admit that New Brunswick was kinda boring, and Quebec treated us like shit, but Nova Scotia and P.E.I. were absolutely delightful!

They do that to everybody. :)

/been there twice, nice scenery, shame about the frogs.

305 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:44:56am

re: #303 gmsc

Aside from the COLB issue, if Obama becomes president, could he pass the security check?

And what preclude him on 'security check' issues? He's a sitting senator so he's made it this far up the ladder without any problems.

This might be the same argument that an anti-McCain person would birng up saying that an ex-POW isn't mentally stable, I've heard that too from the other side.

306 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:45:23am

re: #302 aussiemagpie

Typical Liberal. Always trying to complicate the simplest issue/question. It's nothing to do with his heritage or language. He just doesn't get it to begin with.

307 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:45:27am

Great cartoon!

Obama on Saul Alinsky: "I don't know this man."
Obama on William Ayers: "I don't know this man."
Obama on Tony Rezko: "I don't know this man."
Obama on Rev. Jeremiah Wright: "I don't know this man."
Obama on Franklin Raines: "I don't know this man."
Uncle Sam on Obama: "I don't know this man."

308 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:46:23am

re: #267 Maximu§

Hi, and yes it's a lovely Sunday evening here 6.45pm and getting ready for another work week :-(

Like sitting here watching the cricket - Aussies v India!

309 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:47:44am

re: #303 gmsc

Barack Obama, as U.S. Senator of Illinois and the Democratic Nominee for President of the United States, is a public person, and his citizenship status is a matter of significant public concern and is subject to legitimate public scrutiny.

We were discussing this upthread, known drug-users and security-access, et cetera...

310 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:51:05am

re: #309 Karridine

We were discussing this upthread, known drug-users and security-access, et cetera...

Here's one to add to the list:

OBAMA GAY PORNO CZAR LINK (National Enquirer)

311 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:54:13am

This lizard's goin' to bed.

G'nte {all you favorite lizard friends o' mine}!

      ¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

312 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:54:35am

re: #311 LeePro

Night LeePro, weet dreams.

313 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:54:36am

re: #305 middlecon

[Link: answers.yahoo.com...]

I include the link because I HAD TO BE CLEARED, but I felt seriously disappointed during the Sandy Burglar case, and see that it'll probably be the same IF, somehow, Obama (the admitted drug-abuser) is elected...

314 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:54:51am

re: #311 LeePro

This lizard's goin' to bed.

G'nte {all you favorite lizard friends o' mine}!

      ¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Good night!

315 LeePro  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:54:58am

oops [PIMF]

G'nite.

316 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:55:27am

re: #310 gmsc

Eeek!

Do I gotta look? (NatEnq and all...) ?

317 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:55:51am

re: #301 gmsc

A couple of interesting links on the Obama COLB issue:

Sites that follow this issue regularly:
America's Right
Obama Crimes

Posts:
Berg: ‘Country Headed to Constitutional Crisis’

Like the video "Obama crimes",But thats only one of the crimes he has committed.The one has got enough crimes under his belt,there is no way he should be allowed to run for president of our country.

318 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 12:58:33am

re: #316 Karridine

Eeek!

Do I gotta look? (NatEnq and all...) ?

Don't worry, there's nothing graphic. The worst it gets is Obama with an unpleasant look on it's face.

You know, it wasn't that long ago that something like this would've been a major scandal.

319 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:00:23am

re: #318 gmsc

All I get is a 404 Error... "Doc NOT on this server"

320 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:00:52am

re: #306 BlueCanuck

Does this bloke have a chance of winning this election?

321 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:02:22am

A chance, yes, but every day reduces Obama's chances by a significant amount... (The Bradley Effect, et alia)

322 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:03:11am

re: #318 gmsc

Don't worry, there's nothing graphic. The worst it gets is Obama with an unpleasant look on it's face.

You know, it wasn't that long ago that something like this would've been a major scandal.

You know - and, let's be clear on this - uh - ah - and all the rest.

It is up to us!

Let's keep it on and git it on. Max.

323 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:03:31am

re: #315 LeePro

Goodnight LeePro, sleep well!

324 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:03:49am

What is it with Obama and pie?

First, Obama mentions it 13 times in 86 seconds:

It all started when Obama began telling one of his new favorite stories about a visit to a diner in Ohio with OH Governor Ted Strickland.  The details of the story are unimportant, and frankly, sometimes unintelligible in the peerless plethora of pie references, but it went like this:

"I was in this small town in Ohio called Georgetown, OH – little town," he began, "And we went to a diner because I decided I wanted some pie (1)."  At this point a woman in the Philadelphia crowd, listening to the story, offered to make Obama a treat. "You gonna make me some pie (2)?" he asked,  "What kind of pie do you make (3)? Sweet potato pie (4)? Alright. Alright. We might have to have a sweet potato pie (5) contest. I'll be the judge. Cause I know my sweet potato pie (6). But they did not have sweet potato pie (7) at this particular establishment," he said speaking again of the diner in Ohio. "So instead I got coconut crème pie (8). I'll take a crème pie (9), I don't mind. I like all kind of pie (10). The Governor of Ohio, he had lemon meringue pie (11) . So we had ordered our pie (12), and the employees there decided they wanted to take a picture of me," he concluded, "But just as we were finishing up taking the picture, the owner comes out, with our pie (13).

Then, Obama later breaks that record by mentioning pie 15 times in 104 seconds:

At which point, as usual, someone in the crowd listening offered some pie of their own.

"You make pie(3)?" Obama asked? "What kind of pie (4) you make? Sweet potato pie (5)? I like sweet potato pie (6). I’m thinking of having a sweet potato pie (7) here in Philadelphia? Because I’ve heard a lot of people are saying they can make sweet potato pie (8). I’ll put it up against my mother in laws sweet potato pie (9). Alright, you give up? Nah. You. So anyway they did not have sweet potato pie (10) in South OH. So I had coconut cream pie (11). The governor of OH he had lemon meringue pie (12). So we ordered our pie (13)and I decide that I’m going to take a picture with the wait staff."

It was at this point that he had matched his record. Had he stopped here, it certainly would have been impressive…yet not historic. I would like to say the crowd stood silent waiting to see if he would break the record, thrilled to say they witnessed someone reach pie immortality. But the truth is, they might have been silent out of concern. How much pie can one person take? Nevertheless, the record was within reach. And Obama continued:

"Just as we were re finished taking the picture and the owner comes out, with our pie (14). So I take my pie (15)."

325 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:04:02am

re: #320 aussiemagpie

Does this bloke have a chance of winning this election?

326 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:04:50am

re: #319 Karridine

All I get is a 404 Error... "Doc NOT on this server"

Sorry, try this link.

327 middlecon  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:06:00am

re: #313 Karridine

[Link: answers.yahoo.com...]

I include the link because I HAD TO BE CLEARED, but I felt seriously disappointed during the Sandy Burglar case, and see that it'll probably be the same IF, somehow, Obama (the admitted drug-abuser) is elected...


So you really think that Bush never used cocaine? I don't think he's ever said that he hasn't, only skirted the question.

Its a big world out there and to say that anyone who's ever tried cocaine is ineligible to be President the pool just keeps getting smaller and smaller.

328 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:06:08am

re: #325 Oldasdirt

Scary - yes.

329 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:06:28am

re: #325 Oldasdirt

Only if enough Dead,imaginary,and street people vote for him.

330 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:07:40am

re: #328 Bobibutu

Scary - yes.

re: #328 Bobibutu

Scary - yes.

Strange,,I tried to quote you,,but something happened..

331 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:08:01am

re: #329 Oldasdirt

Only if enough Dead,imaginary,and street people vote for him.

You're just necrist and imaginarist! (Sorry, I have very little practice in being an offended dem.)

332 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:10:46am

re: #330 Oldasdirt

Strange,,I tried to quote you,,but something happened..

Reload - Charles and Stinky could be up late.

333 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:11:50am

re: #331 gmsc

You're just necrist and imaginarist! (Sorry, I have very little practice in being an offended dem.)

Just referring to the fact that so far ACORN has drummed up 1,and 1/2 million votes for The one,and more that half looked into so far or faked

334 boogberg  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:12:22am
336 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:12:53am

I am down - nite all.

337 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:12:55am

re: #332 Bobibutu

Reload - Charles and Stinky could be up late.

Thanks,,worked that time.LOL,,and this time.

338 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:13:47am

re: #320 aussiemagpie

Does this bloke have a chance of winning this election?

Thankfully not now. But it's going to be a close call wether it's a minority or a majority. Depends on how Quebec and Ontario go. I know my city (Toronto) will go solid left. The outer parts will be a mix bag of Liberal and Conservative. Only a couple of days to go thank goodness.

339 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:13:56am

re: #333 Oldasdirt

Just referring to the fact that so far ACORN has drummed up 1,and 1/2 million votes for The one,and more that half looked into so far or faked

I know, I was just mocking offense at your denial of voting rights to the dead and imaginary.

340 Bobibutu  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:14:12am

re: #337 Oldasdirt

Thanks,,worked that time.LOL,,and this time.

Heh - the prime directive. ;-)

341 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:16:30am

re: #339 gmsc

I know, I was just mocking offense at your denial of voting rights to the dead and imaginary.

I try never to be racist to the dead,,for one day I will be,LOL
Wait!,,should I be laughing about that?

342 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:17:48am

re: #335 gmsc

I rented the Mini series right after I saw "Independence Day". I was struck by the similarity of the opening scenes of the space ships coming in over the cities. Only difference was the sleek smooth looks versus the rougher shapes in the movie. Loved the mini series when it first came on. Was the talk of the playground among me and my friends. :)

343 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:19:52am
344 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:20:26am

What's the German word I'm thinking of? Isn't itschadenfreude...?

345 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:21:53am

re: #326 gmsc

Well, THAT was much more informative that "Obama Homo-Porn Link" or whammever... :D

346 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:22:04am

re: #342 BlueCanuck

I rented the Mini series right after I saw "Independence Day". I was struck by the similarity of the opening scenes of the space ships coming in over the cities. Only difference was the sleek smooth looks versus the rougher shapes in the movie. Loved the mini series when it first came on. Was the talk of the playground among me and my friends. :)

I still remember the first time I watched a "Nightmare on Elm Street" movie. I asked "Who plays Freddy?" My friend responded, "Remember that really shy, nice guy from 'V'? The lizard who didn't want to kill the humans? That's Freddy!"

I was stunned.

347 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:22:54am

re: #325 Oldasdirt

Hi there!

I meant Stephane Dion in Canada - I posted a video of him upthread of him being incapable of answering a question - frightening to think he's a party leader!

As for Obama - the media here is just as biased as yours - as far as they're concerned Obama is THE ONE!

348 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:23:23am

re: #346 gmsc

Yeah, Robert Englund is a real good actor. Even though he did Freddie, he wasn't really typecast too much. He can do creepy really well though without all the make up.

349 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:24:04am

re: #345 Karridine

Well, THAT was much more informative that "Obama Homo-Porn Link" or whammever... :D

Wait until you see the video linked in #343!

Scary semi-related thought: People entering college this year are too young to have ever seen an X-rated movie. The X rating was changed to NC-17 before they were born.

350 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:26:44am

re: #343 gmsc

2007 Video: Obama Says He Will Invite ACORN to "Shape the Agenda" as President!

Another good video,I like that Naked Emperor news videos.But had not seen this one,,Thanks.

351 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:27:12am

re: #338 BlueCanuck

Thankfully not now. But it's going to be a close call wether it's a minority or a majority. Depends on how Quebec and Ontario go. I know my city (Toronto) will go solid left. The outer parts will be a mix bag of Liberal and Conservative. Only a couple of days to go thank goodness.

Good luck and I pray that a fate like ours is avoided - we have PM Rudd now, thanks to the all out efforts of our MSM and some dead head voters who wanted a CHANGE!

352 Outrider  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:28:07am

re: #345 Karridine

I saw on the last thread you had been ASA. When?

353 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:28:10am

re: #344 Fenway_Nation

What's the German word I'm thinking of? Isn't itschadenfreude...?

"Warner's Body Of Lies now rivals Warner's Speed Racer for the crown of biggest trainwrecks of the year," one mogul gloated. "This is their second $100+ budget film to open under $20 million."

Maybe they should spend far more than just $100 or so making these movies. ;)

354 Claudia  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:30:13am

Lummox # 70
That's clever.

355 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:30:19am

re: #335 gmsc

Attention fellow lizards!

"V", the classic miniseries about alien lizards invading Earth, is coming back to ABC in a new miniseries!

I'm sure the aliens will all looks like Cheney, Rice, Bush or Patraeus if they're supposed to be eeeeevil aliens.

356 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:30:45am

re: #347 aussiemagpie

Hi there!

I meant Stephane Dion in Canada - I posted a video of him upthread of him being incapable of answering a question - frightening to think he's a party leader!

As for Obama - the media here is just as biased as yours - as far as they're concerned Obama is THE ONE!

Sorry,had a prob.Had to refresh,,I was trying to quote gmsc,but it did not work right.
But I did see the video you are speaking of,,took 3 takes to still not answer the question.

357 FamHistoryGuy  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:31:30am

re: #4 Syrah

Use a live linux dvd and reformat the drive and start again. Or if you have the hd install cd, do a low level format and start over. Better than just tossing the hd.

358 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:33:42am

re: #352 Outrider

I saw on the last thread you had been ASA. When?

1964-68; USS Pueblo era, stationed on the Korean DMZ...

Why? :D

359 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:40:12am

re: #344 Fenway_Nation

What's the German word I'm thinking of? Isn't it schadenfreude...?

Major studio movies with big budgets that were based on books which tank in the theaters always remind me of "The Other Side of Midnight".

When the book, "The Other Side of Midnight", was released, it quickly became a best-seller. Many fans of the book wanted it to be made into a film, and when the author finally started entertaining offers from movie studios, there was a big bidding war.

Finally, 20th Century Fox won the bidding in 1974, and began filming on the movie in 1975. The final release date was set for the summer, 2 years later, with many people anticipating it as being that year's biggest box-office blockbuster.

At the time, 20th Century Fox had another movie property, with nowhere near the scale of interest that preceeded "The Other Side of Midnight", and that was proving a tough sale to movie theaters. So, the studio announced that, if you wanted to show "The Other Side of Midnight" in your theater, you were required to show this other 20th Century Fox property in your theater for at least 2 weekends. Otherwise, you would not be allowed the more-anticipated movie.

Strangely, the movie version of "The Other Side of Midnight" bombed, and today many of the fans of the book don't even know a movie version was ever made of it.

The other movie that the studio required theaters to show, however, not only did well at the box office, it outperformed every other movie that year. This secondary movie was "Star Wars".

360 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:43:01am

re: #162 Cognito

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?


I have Packet8 VOIP long-distance phone service, and really like it. Has only faded once in about 4 years, otherwise it's sound quality is as good as any regular phone (which, I understand, uses the same sort of digital encoding).

My particular application is a modem-style box with a plug on one side which plugs into my internet cable router, and a plug on the other side for a regular house-style phone. No computer needed. One low monthly flat rate (approx. $25) for unlimited long distance calling, good for all of the US and Canada. Has features that I haven't bothered to check out. Here's a partial blurb from their website:

Single Line Business Solutions
Ideal for single office or home office (SOHO) professionals, Packet8 Business 2000 digital phone service is packed with features and priced for the cost conscious entrepreneur. Business 2000 can be configured with two roll over lines, a single line with call waiting and an optional dedicated fax line or a single line with multiple handset options (each line sold separately).

Mobile Solutions
Packet8 MobileTalk lets cell phone users effortlessly reduce their international calling rates by as much as 90%. With MobileTalk, there are no special PIN codes to keep track of and no long access numbers to dial. MobileTalk provides the highest quality digital voice service and lowest calling rates to any international location.

Companies like this are giving traditional phone-service providers some stiff competition, and the customer benefits either way.
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361 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:45:52am

Just out of curiosity, when was the last big-studio Hollywood flick set in a small town that didn't portray small-town/Midwestern types as stupid, evil, racist hicks?

Might have to go back 9 years to David Lynch's (of all people) The Straight Story

362 Karridine  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:48:42am

re: #361 Fenway_Nation

Bridge to Taribithia?

Spiderwyck?

Oh, BIG studio flix? 'Scuze me...

363 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:50:56am

re: #361 Fenway_Nation

Just out of curiosity, when was the last big-studio Hollywood flick set in a small town that didn't portray small-town/Midwestern types as stupid, evil, racist hicks?

Might have to go back 9 years to David Lynch's (of all people) The Straight Story

Sorry Fenway,I'm a western fan only.Havent seen a good western made in a long while.

364 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:51:17am

re: #356 Oldasdirt

Hi and I love your nic too

I watched the video a couple of times because I just couldn't believe the coaching he needed and then still stuffed up

Of course as Andrew Bolt points out Governor Palin would not have been helped in this way

365 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:52:11am

re: #363 Oldasdirt

So I shouldn't believe the hype about Appaloosa then?

366 gmsc  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:53:37am

re: #361 Fenway_Nation

Just out of curiosity, when was the last big-studio Hollywood flick set in a small town that didn't portray small-town/Midwestern types as stupid, evil, racist hicks?

Might have to go back 9 years to David Lynch's (of all people) The Straight Story

The first one that popped into my mind was "The Untouchables". ;)

367 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:54:00am

re: #364 aussiemagpie

Like I said, the part that blew me out of the water was that they actually showed the gaffes on T.V. Stuff like that usually gets buried and forgotten. Like all other countries, our media is mostly left wing.

368 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:54:58am

re: #364 aussiemagpie

Hi and I love your nic too.
Thanks,got it from my dad.was going to use something else he use to say alot.
"You stepped in what?"But it was a bit long

369 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 1:57:54am

re: #365 Fenway_Nation

So I shouldn't believe the hype about Appaloosa then?

Have not seen it yet.So I cant say.

370 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------>
Help yourselves!

371 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:01:45am

re: #370 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------>
Help yourselves!

Hi littleoldlady,Thanks,I needed that

372 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:02:03am

Morning littleoldlady, thanks for the fruitcup.

373 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:03:47am

Oldasdirt! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)
/you bad boy, you! ;-)

374 BignJames  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:03:49am

re: #370 littleoldlady

You're late.

375 Outrider  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:04:17am

re: #358 Karridine

1964-68; USS Pueblo era, stationed on the Korean DMZ...

Why? :D

Was ASA 72-78 and INSCOM 78-93 (off and on)

376 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:05:28am

re: #373 littleoldlady

*snicker* I figure what's the worst that could happen? Haven't heard anything about my request so things are going to get shaken up at the end of the month.

377 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:05:34am

For you youngsters out there,I will make a western movie selection that was my very favorite.If you have not seen it,it has it all.Comedy,adventure,drama.
'The Outlaw Josie Whales"To me,the best western movie ever made.

378 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:06:17am

BignJames! :-)

I know. I was almost asleep at my keyboard...

379 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:06:55am

Maybe littleoldlady can help. Do you know the last time there was a mainstram/big-studio Hollywood flick that portrayed small-town/flyover state types in a positive light instead of the stock racist, homophobic, ignorant, surly, bigoted, semi-literate strawmen?

Also, what kind of reception did Sarah-cuda get at the Flyers game tonight? I heard she was supposed to drop the puck.....

/However, Philly fans have been known to boo even Santa Claus. A sportswriter once said that if Philadelphia fans don't have the 76ers, Flyers, Phillies or Eagles to boo, they'll go to the airport and boo less-than-perfect landings

380 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:09:03am

re: #377 Oldasdirt

Tombstone was the Western that people of my generation are probably most familiar with. I'll be the first to admit that Val Kilmer stole the show as Doc Holliday.

381 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:11:13am

re: #380 Fenway_Nation

Tombstone was the Western that people of my generation are probably most familiar with. I'll be the first to admit that Val Kilmer stole the show as Doc Holliday.

That was a Great one,LOL,Just watched it again a few nights ago.Yes,a kick ass western.

382 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:13:14am

re: #375 Outrider

Was ASA 72-78 and INSCOM 78-93 (off and on)


That particular one-of-a-kind USN Skywarrior in my avatar had four ASA types riding in the back. Unusual situation.
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383 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:15:06am

re: #379 Fenway_Nation

Fenway! :-)

The last movie I saw in a theatre was Harry Potter...

/the FIRST Harry Potter!

...so I'm not the one to ask.

Yes, Sarah dropped the puck. Depending on who you believe she was either boo'ed or had a mixed reception. I read an email from someone who was actually there who said that the boos came from "the cheap seats" and that most of the audience was respectful.

Hard to live down our bad reputation...

/don't tell anyone - most of us are proud of it! ;-)

...but Sarah has been in Philadelphia A LOT and I don't think she's having a bad time here.

384 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:15:37am

GOOD MORNING, FRUITCUP! THANKS FOR THE LITTLE OLD LADY!

:-)
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385 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:16:19am

TaMrOn! :-)

/dyslexics untie!

386 Outrider  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:18:23am

re: #382 Tamron

That particular one-of-a-kind USN Skywarrior in my avatar had four ASA types riding in the back. Unusual situation.
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There were many aerial configs. I never got to do the aerial side, always being on the ground. The closest I come to that was Airborne.

I wasn't aware of the Skywarrior config either. My only experience with Navy was partying. In Augsbug they worked in a closed off section. On the ground. lol

387 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:18:30am

re: #385 littleoldlady

TaMrOn! :-)

/dyslexics untie!

I mostly lie awake pondering the meaning and existence of dog. ;)

388 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:21:04am

re: #385 littleoldlady

TaMrOn! :-)

/dyslexics untie!


Didja hear the one about the dyslexic agnostic who had insomnia?
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389 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:21:14am

re: #383 littleoldlady


One of my buddies is a day-trader and he alluded to something called 'The Big Mac Index', which is where the cost of a Big Mac in places like Paris, Jakarta, Johannesburg, Buenos Aires or Toronto would give you a good indicator of the exchange rate or general cost of goods and services.

Is there a 'Philly Cheesesteak Index'? I distincly remember being in Philly in 2003, and at a little trailer right across the way from Liberty Plaza, I got a decent philly cheesesteak, a can of soda and a bag of chips for $4! I can think of some resturants around here who have 'Philly Cheesesteak' on the menu but charge nearly twice as much for the privelege.

390 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:23:15am

Dang. I typed the stupid riddle, before I saw your dog message.

Great minds float in the same gutter....
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391 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:24:10am

re: #390 Tamron

Constantly trying to bring people down to my level. *evil grin*

392 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:24:48am

Woof!

393 FamHistoryGuy  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:25:24am

re: #357 FamHistoryGuy

Looks like I should have read a few more posts before posting.

394 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:26:00am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

Like I said, the part that blew me out of the water was that they actually showed the gaffes on T.V. Stuff like that usually gets buried and forgotten. Like all other countries, our media is mostly left wing.

I missed you on another thread a while back - to tell you we had a wonderful week in Toronto in 2004 - favourite bit for me was the underground shopping malls!

I could have spent a few weeks underground!

395 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:30:06am

re: #394 aussiemagpie

I missed you on another thread a while back - to tell you we had a wonderful week in Toronto in 2004 - favourite bit for me was the underground shopping malls!

I could have spent a few weeks underground!

They have maps for that. ;)

/I still get lost down there.

396 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:30:10am

re: #389 Fenway_Nation

Pricewise, no there's no "cheesesteak index", as far as I know.

/haven't been into town to Pat's or Geno's for a while...

WOWSERS! $7.50 for a cheesesteak!? They're $2-$3 cheaper out here in the suburbs and still way better than any out of town phony "Philly Cheesesteak" restaurants.

397 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:31:34am

WASHINGTON (AP) - After consulting with Barack Obama, Democratic leaders are likely to call Congress back to work after the election in hopes of passing legislation that would include extended jobless benefits, money for food stamps and possibly a tax rebate, officials said Saturday.
The bill's total cost could reach $150 billion, these officials said.
From Drudge

398 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:31:57am

re: #368 Oldasdirt

LOL! Let us know the whole story one day....

Realwest calls me Li'l Roo thanks to 'Nam Grunt, another LGFer who was here a lot when I first came here

399 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:33:45am

re: #370 littleoldlady

Hi there {littleoldlady}

400 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:35:47am

aussiemagpie! :-)

/sorry...still trying to unstick my eyes
//throwing coffee into them isn't working.

How're you? Was talking to nonic (yesterday, I think?) about how she had your family visiting her.

401 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:43:36am

Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis, as HUMAN EVENTS learned from the letter shown in full text below.
McCain's letter -- signed by nineteen other senators -- said that it was "...vitally important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]...operate in a safe and sound manner.[and]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American taxpayer is protected in the event that either...should fail."
Sen. Obama did not sign the letter, nor did any other Democrat.
How will the MSM spin this one?

402 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:43:38am

re: #396 littleoldlady

Oh...as far as I know, it's just a single item on a menu that includes pizza, pasta, sandwiches, salads and burgers. This isn't a dedicated Philly Cheesesteak place I'm referring to.

403 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:43:38am

re: #400 littleoldlady

404 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:44:56am

re: #386 Outrider

There were many aerial configs. I never got to do the aerial side, always being on the ground. The closest I come to that was Airborne.

I wasn't aware of the Skywarrior config either. My only experience with Navy was partying. In Augsbug they worked in a closed off section. On the ground. lol


Here's an article by one of the ASA types who flew in this particular bird. They used to have a more comprehensive site up, with photos etc, but caution took them off the 'net in 2002 or so.
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405 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:45:33am

re: #401 Oldasdirt


How will the MSM spin this one?

*Wah! We're being threatened by those mean, hateful Palin supporters at the KKKampaign raillies*

I'm being about as whimsical as a heart attack.

406 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:45:39am

re: #400 littleoldlady

/sorry...still trying to unstick my eyes
//throwing coffee into them isn't working.


(take 2)

I found it works best by inserting said coffee through the mouth. ;)

407 Oldasdirt  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:48:00am

re: #406 BlueCanuck

(take 2)

I found it works best by inserting said coffee through the mouth. ;)

My coffee comes intravenously.

408 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:50:44am

re: #407 Oldasdirt

My coffee comes intravenously.


I once dated a health-nut girl from California who.......

Nah. Never mind.
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409 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:51:00am

re: #402 Fenway_Nation

The two I linked to are the traditional Philadelphia cheesesteak places the tourists visit. Although this is the one that Sarah Palin visited recently.

/hmmm. smart girl! the prices are more in line.

410 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:52:09am

re: #406 BlueCanuck

re: #407 Oldasdirt

I'm with Oldasdirt.

/no wait...I AM Oldasdirt?
//something like that...

411 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:52:28am

re: #400 littleoldlady

aussiemagpie! :-)

/sorry...still trying to unstick my eyes
//throwing coffee into them isn't working.

How're you? Was talking to nonic (yesterday, I think?) about how she had your family visiting her.

Good to see you darls! yes I saw nonic on here, and I'm so proud of my son behaving himself when he stayed with her - his GF has tamed him for sure

Seriously he's a great young man (not biased or anything of course) :-)

It made me so happy that Lgfers rightymouse and nonic made them so welcome

Thanks so much LGF!

412 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:57:59am

re: #411 aussiemagpie


I'm so proud of my son behaving himself when he stayed with her

GAH! You sound like me when I talk about MNT! ;-) (6 days and counting...still looking for the replacement name)

rightymouse, too? That's nice!

413 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 2:59:15am

Summer is approaching so here's a shark story

Great white stalks boaties off Adelaide beach


A FAMILY stalked in their boat by a great white shark off Adelaide yesterday says they feared for swimmers at a nearby beach.

The massive shark – one witness said it was longer than 5m – was seen as close as 1km from the West Lakes Shore beach by boaties aboard at least three vessels between 8.30am and 11.30am yesterday.
Surf Life Saving SA was alerted and water police monitored its movements.

Aldgate mum Melinda Barnard was aboard an aluminium boat about 4km offshore with her father, Ian Westley, and sons Max, 6, and Eli, 4, when they spotted the huge shark approaching the vessel around 11.15am.

Ms Barnard, 35, said the shark was about as big as the 5m boat she was in.

"He had a nibble of the outboard motor and then nudged the boat before circling us for about 15 minutes," she said.

414 aussiemagpie  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 3:03:06am

re: #412 littleoldlady

GAH! You sound like me when I talk about MNT! ;-) (6 days and counting...still looking for the replacement name)

rightymouse, too? That's nice!

LOL! I've seen your search for a new nic for MNT :-)

Yes they stayed with rightymouse and her family as well

My son and Gf were just so happy to experience life with real families as well as doing the tourist thing

415 Tamron  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 3:09:46am

re: #413 aussiemagpie

Summer is approaching so here's a shark story

Great white stalks boaties off Adelaide beach


They needed a Killer Whale mascot like this one, who prefers shark's liver as a delicacy.
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416 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Oct 12, 2008 3:10:17am

re: