True.

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

RawMuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

I believe THESE can help Obama GO DOWN in FLAMES!

I am now convinced that the warnings about not stopping a Linux install once it has started has some validity to it.

I turned a hard drive into a brick today.

Good for tossing, not so good for computing.

Transferring gun thread....Now.

hmmm, paradoxical. I like it

longest ALDS ever time wise, over 400 pitches.

Big crowd, exercising Free Will.

Good night, all.

re: #4 Syrah

Pull the magnets and stick 'em on your fridge. Warning: finger injuries may occur.

Well, hey ya'll, I'm makin' reservations for my son's weddin' next month to the only Jewish girl in all of Alabama! Who's got suggestions on southern-talk and other Southern stuff and cool places to visit in Birmingham Alabama!

I'm just sorry my future daughter-in-law doesn't have a real Southern accent. Her parents are Yankees. But she is a true Southern belle.

Good "Southern Dictionary"

[Link: littlerock.about.com...]

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

Highway Star ...

The Original Metal band.

Which Alabama media should I notify about the first Hasidic wedding in Alabama in, well, in ever?

The Obama belt.

re: #11 Alouette

Never ask a woman if she is pregnant, unless you can actually see a baby emerging from her uterus.

Never ask anyone if you can have all their stuff after they are dead.

Never insult their dogs.

Everything else is OK.

re: #14 Archimedes

Highway Star ...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

The Original Metal band.

Allright,
Hold tight!
I'm a highway star!

(Although, IN ROCK is still my favorite DP release...)

Obama jewelry

re: #4 Syrah

I am now convinced that the warnings about not stopping a Linux install once it has started has some validity to it.

I turned a hard drive into a brick today.

Good for tossing, not so good for computing.

Can't you just low-level reformat it and start afresh? You lose any data on it, but unless the hard drive is physically damaged, can't you always just wipe it clean by reformatting it completely?

re: #4 Syrah

I am now convinced that the warnings about not stopping a Linux install once it has started has some validity to it.

I turned a hard drive into a brick today.

Good for tossing, not so good for computing.

check out ...

[Link: www.grc.com...]

miracles happen ... I have known Gibson for over 25 years ... simply the best. He writes all his stuff in Assembly.

re: #17 rawmuse

Never ask a woman if she is pregnant, unless you can actually see a baby emerging from her uterus.

I learned that the hard way!

re: #11 Alouette

Well, hey ya'll, I'm makin' reservations for my son's weddin' next month to the only Jewish girl in all of Alabama! Who's got suggestions on southern-talk and other Southern stuff and cool places to visit in Birmingham Alabama!

I'm just sorry my future daughter-in-law doesn't have a real Southern accent. Her parents are Yankees. But she is a true Southern belle.

A Southern belleboosta!

re: #22 J.D.

I learned ALL those the hard way...

re: #19 J.D.

Obama jewelry

What? Is that a body-adornment thingy? Why would anyone want to wear such a primitive-looking thing unless one was a member of a mindless cult that worshiped a nothing that it represented? (Oh wait, that describes the Demonrat party to a T...)

Shania Twain has a choice. She did not chose wisely.

re: #13 Caboose

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

I have also noticed an increase in the hip-hop style metallic gold and silver plated Obama bling t-shirt vendors, in malls and even on street corners with folding tables. Guys with their pants under their ass need a Presidential candidate on their shirt. Go figure

re: #24 rawmuse

I learned ALL those the hard way...

Amen.

re: #24 rawmuse

I learned ALL those the hard way...

We're fast learners, though, right?

Deep, yet snarky commentary... and he invented the sewing machine!

Isaac Bashevis Singer was truly a renaissance man!

/... what?

Ditto here on the pregnant thing. Yikes.

re: #13 Caboose

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

I was there last Sunday...does it still smell like vomit upchuck?

National Chocolate Week is coming up!

Eat more chocolate!

Another good one about free will:

We can do what we like, but we can't like what we like.

I have a string of ex-girlfriends who empirically prove that.

re: #25 Caboose

What? Is that a body-adornment thingy? Why would anyone want to wear such a primitive-looking thing unless one was a member of a mindless cult that worshiped a nothing that it represented? (Oh wait, that describes the Demonrat party to a T...)

lol!

re: #29 J.D.

We're fast learners, though, right?

Who was it said ... "well I have thick skin - OK, if you must know, scar tissue."

re: #36 Bobibutu

Who was it said ... "well I have thick skin - OK, if you must know, scar tissue."

Dunno, but it pertains!

re: #13 Caboose

I'm down on Bourbon St. in N'Awlins tonight and what a den of iniquity it is! More obscenity-laden and (completely separate topic) and pro-Chosen One T-shirts worn and for sale I have not seen in my part of Hotlanta; scarey (and it ain't close to Halloween!). Just wow... (s#it-faced I am now, FWIW...)

Not surprising. Given how high a percentage of the city's population is black, the surprising thing would be if such shirts were uncommon.

Nite.

re: #36 Bobibutu

Who was it said ... "well I have thick skin - OK, if you must know, scar tissue."

Joan Rivers? *Rimshot*

that's got to be the worst thing ever, when "Congratulations!" slips out of your mouth, to some woman who replies "for what?" The mind recoils in horror, oh yeah, been there

re: #20 zombie

Can't you just low-level reformat it and start afresh? You lose any data on it, but unless the hard drive is physically damaged, can't you always just wipe it clean by reformatting it completely?

I am not sure. There was a lot of very bad clicking noises coming from the hard drive when I fired it back up. (I have heard that clicking before. Very bad sign.)

The hd does not even register on the post screen any more.

It was old. I may have pushed it just a little too far.

re: #27 JeremiahRight

I have also noticed an increase in the hip-hop style metallic gold and silver plated Obama bling t-shirt vendors, in malls and even on street corners with folding tables. Guys with their pants under their ass need a Presidential candidate on their shirt. Go figure

Yeah, those guys that be 'jailin' are gonna convince me to vote for the Chosen One 'cuz they have a blingly T-shirt on...NOT!

Here's hoping and praying to see all the 0bama t-shirts and other Chose One paraphernalia on the '4 for $10' tables at rest stops along the Interstates in mid-November...

re: #32 J.D.

I was there last Sunday...does it still smell like vomit upchuck?

Yep...

Rays take game 2.

re: #41 JeremiahRight

that's got to be the worst thing ever, when "Congratulations!" slips out of your mouth, to some woman who replies "for what?" The mind recoils in horror, oh yeah, been there

You must learn to reply without hesitation: "For losing weight -- you look so svelte and attractive!"

She will know you are BSing her, but she will allow you to live.

re: #43 Caboose

Yeah, those guys that be 'jailin' are gonna convince me to vote for the Chosen One 'cuz they have a blingly T-shirt on...NOT!

Here's hoping and praying to see all the 0bama t-shirts and other Chose One paraphernalia on the '4 for $10' tables at rest stops along the Interstates in mid-November...

Nah, they'll just ship it to Africa, like most also-ran merchandise. It'll probably mostly end up in Kenya, given his high standing there.

re: #43 Caboose

no doubt! How funny would it be though to see McCain shirts that were made in that same style. You know, that urban crack-dealer uniform style that's so popular with the youth

re: #16 J.D.

The Obama belt.

Hmmm. Wouldn't the only people who would actually wear this be the kids who wear their pants below their underwear in the first place? (In imitation of jail inmates who aren't allowed to have belts.)

re: #42 Syrah

I am not sure. There was a lot of very bad clicking noises coming from the hard drive when I fired it back up. (I have heard that clicking before. Very bad sign.)

The hd does not even register on the post screen any more.

The clicking is a sure sign of death....happened to me a couple months ago. Non-recoverable, it's dead. Put a stake thru it, otherwise an ACORN worker might register it to vote..........

It was old. I may have pushed it just a little too far.

re: #32 J.D.

I was there last Sunday...does it still smell like vomit upchuck?

I did the gig back in 65 - IBM had a school there - just befor sending me to Vietnam.

Got to see and hear Pete do his thing.

re: #48 JeremiahRight

no doubt! How funny would it be though to see McCain shirts that were made in that same style. You know, that urban crack-dealer uniform style that's so popular with the youth

That'll never happen. McCain supporters have too much class (and are mostly too old) for that.

I....do believe...I am

going to bed..........MONKEY RUB!

Love ya Lizards, faith is not so bad a thing (humanistic formation, no monkeys allowed), the HOW did we get HERE is what drives the debate!
I sleep well at night just having faith that we ARE here.

re: #47 Dark_Falcon

Nah, they'll just ship it to Africa, like most also-ran merchandise. It'll probably mostly end up in Kenya, given his high standing there.

Don't care where it goes, as long as it is just the forgotten detritus of a failed and horribly flawed candidate that should have never gotten as far as it did. To Hell with it (and the mechandise, too...)

re: #21 Bobibutu

check out ...

[Link: www.grc.com...]

miracles happen ... I have known Gibson for over 25 years ... simply the best. He writes all his stuff in Assembly.

Thanks.

Was there a particular download that you were thinking of?

I don't think any of these will help me unless I've overlooked something.

Fortunately for me this was just a kick-about hobby machine. A bit of salvage that I may have just pushed over the edge. I haven't lost any data of value.

Finally, a chill thread.

TO THE OVER 50 CROWD...
When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were. When they were growing up, what with walking twenty-five miles to school every morning... uphill... barefoot... BOTH ways... in pouring rain... yadda, yadda blah, blah, blah...

I remember promising myself that when I grew up, There was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on kids about how hard I had it and how easy they've got it!

But now that I'm over the ripe old age of thirty I can't help but look around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so easy! I mean, compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia!

And I hate to say it but you kids today you don't know how good you've got it! I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have The Internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and Look it up ourselves, in the card catalogue!

There was no email! We had to actually write somebody a letter, with a pen! Pen Pals – remember them? Then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox and it would take like a week to get there!

Want to see boobs? Google wasn't even thought of so the best you could hope for was swapping old Playboy magazines with your friend who stole them from his dad.

There were no MP3's or iTunes! If you wanted music, you had to catch a bus to the damn record store and buy it yourself! Our equivalent to Napster and Limewire was waiting around all day to tape it off the radio and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and fuck it all up!

We didn't have fancy crap like Call Waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!

And we didn't have Caller ID either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mum, boss, drug dealer, collections agent, you just didn't know! You had to pick it up and take your chances!

We didn't have any Playstation's or Xbox's with high-resolution 3D graphics! We had the Atari 2600 and Commodore 64! With games Like 'Space Invaders' and 'Double Dragon'. Your guy was a little clunky bunch of pixels! You actually had to use your Imagination! And there was no online multiplayer stuff either. It was just you and your brother and a couple of joysticks that hardly worked.

You had to use a little book called a TV Guide to find out what was on! If you missed it – too bad. It wasn't coming to DVD and there was no downloading from Bit Torrent the next day.

You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the channel. There was no Cartoon Network either! You could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying!?! We had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat-bastards!

And we didn't have microwaves, if we wanted to heat something up we had to use the stove ... imagine that! That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids today have got it too easy. You're spoiled. You guys wouldn't have lasted Five minutes back in 1980!

Regards, The over 50 Crowd.

Free Will

re: #42 Syrah

I am not sure. There was a lot of very bad clicking noises coming from the hard drive when I fired it back up. (I have heard that clicking before. Very bad sign.)

The hd does not even register on the post screen any more.

It was old. I may have pushed it just a little too far.

As a last ditch effort - put it in a plastic ziplock with the air sucked out of it - place in you freezer for 48 hours. Remove and plug it in. Copy the drive immediately.

No forget that - that's for mechanical failure - Gibson is your best bet unless you don't care and make a trip to Fry's.

re: #16 J.D.

The Obama belt.

You could use that for a male chastity belt. Yuck. That would stop any lady right in her tracks.

Good afternoon, Reptilia! Someone just replied to a comment on my art forum saying that the trooper-in-question's son literally asked for it.

Wth.

re: #33 stuiec

National Chocolate Week is coming up!

Eat more chocolate!

Yum!

re: #56 lummox

Now get off my lawn!

re: #57 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I thought Free Will was one of Obama's biggest donors.

re: #55 Syrah

I just talked to a buddy today, and am going over tomorrow to look at his ailing computer.

Cartman: "Well, what's the problem exactly, Tom?"

Tom: "Well, it's really, really slow, and it's makin' funny noises."

Uh, oh...

Night all, me and my fellow cronies from work are gonna go refurbish a school that was damaged in Katrina tomorrow and i need to grab some shuteye. Kick @ss and take names in my abscence... ;-)

re: #65 Caboose

They're still rebuilding there? Curse you, FEMA!

/i've got the pen, but I don't know if I should write the names first. (;

re: #8 Noam Sayin'

Big crowd, exercising Free Will.

Crap Noam, you beat me to it!

re: #66 lazardo

They're still rebuilding there? Curse you, FEMA!

/i've got the pen, but I don't know if I should write the names first. (;

That's why you kick ass first. Easier to get the names from their wallets and I.D.s. :)

re: #63 lazardo

I thought Free Will was one of Obama's biggest donors.

No, that would be Stan. He often impersonates Free Will.

Following the problems in the financial markets around the US and Europe, uncertainty has now hit Japan.
In the last seven days Origami Bank has folded. Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank announced plans to cut some of its branches.
Yesterday, it was announced that Karaoke Bank is up for sale and will likely go for a song, while today, shares in Kamikaze Bank were suspended after they nose-dived.
While Samurai Bank is soldiering on following sharp cutbacks, Ninja Bank is reported to have taken a hit, but they remain in the black.
Furthermore, 500 staff at Karate Bank got the chop and analysts report there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank where it is feared that staff may get a raw deal.

re: #63 lazardo

I thought Free Will was one of Obama's biggest donors.

No, that's Free Willie.

/biggest waste of celluloid i've ever seen

re: #56 lummox

yep, it's instant everything all the time. Gimme gimme gimme.

re: #15 Alouette

Which Alabama media should I notify about the first Hasidic wedding in Alabama in, well, in ever?

Mark Levin's wife Kendall is from Huntsville, Alabama. He never said if they got married there, though. I'll have to call him and find out. : )

re: #56 lummox

Hey, at least our Star Wars movies didn't suck.

/born in '71, and you post cracked me up!

I gave all my kids free will to do what they wanted. So now my youngest son is getting married to a young belle, the only eligible JEWISH girl in all of ALabama! It will be the FIRST "AUHENTIC" Jewish/Hasidic/Ultra-Orthodox weddin' in Alabama. The weddin' is in 4 weeks in Birmingham. Should I bre notifyin' the media?

Yee-Hahhhh!

Any lizards who live in Birmingam, give a shout out (through my website) http:www.jewish-history.com, "contact us" if you want to be at thi event.

re: #70 lummox

Several people in my address book are getting that one!

re: #55 Syrah

Thanks.

Was there a particular download that you were thinking of?

I don't think any of these will help me unless I've overlooked something.

Fortunately for me this was just a kick-about hobby machine. A bit of salvage that I may have just pushed over the edge. I haven't lost any data of value.

SpinRite
[Link: www.grc.com...]
[Link: www.grc.com...]

absolute killer app. Has saved my bacon only 3 times over 25 years + ... you don't think you'll ever need it till you do. The nice thing is you can pull your fat out of the fire after the fact.

It is wise to run his free stuff to insure you are not at risk on the net.

re: #58 Bobibutu

As a last ditch effort - put it in a plastic ziplock with the air sucked out of it - place in you freezer for 48 hours. Remove and plug it in. Copy the drive immediately.

No forget that - that's for mechanical failure - Gibson is your best bet unless you don't care and make a trip to Fry's.

How very interesting. I will have to keep that idea in my back pocket. Does it really work?

For my situation, there is nothing to copy or save. It was a hobby kick-about piece of junk that I was just having some fun with. I was doing a clean install with a full disk partition scheme. I think I may have aborted the install at exactly the wrong moment, or that the disc was just doomed to fail anyway. Hard drives are kind of delicate in a "treat them very gently" sort of way. The machine had a very hard life before I got it. It may have just been the hd's time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Thanks for the idea though.

re: #26 Wyatt Earp

Shania Twain has a choice. She did not chose wisely.

She is a Cunucklehead, you know...

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

I thought he spent time writing creepy fan mail to famous rappers.

If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” —H. L. Mencken

Really need a laugh in these troubled times.

Bill Malone - Sam the Bellhop

Gonna have late lunch, brb. Please to check my #60 in the meantime, I'm stupefied.

re: #80 lazardo

I thought he spent time writing creepy fan mail to famous rappers.

Very good reply. I'm not a big rap fan, but I did appreciate it.

re: #81 lummox

If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner.” —H. L. Mencken

Well, can we get Hannibal Lector to invite Obama for dinner?

re: #56 lummox
Just effin' EXCELLENT! This kids today, why if we ever lose power and can't plug in, or use battery rechargers, these kids today woulnd't know what to do. Can't do simple math as it is, and a slide rule?
Fugggataboutit.
And no music, no Guitar Hero, nobody (hardly) knows how to play accoustic instruments, no cell phones...............! LOL!
Just EFFIN' GREAT POST MY FRIEND!

re: #70 lummox

Following the problems in the financial markets around the US and Europe, uncertainty has now hit Japan.
In the last seven days Origami Bank has folded. Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank announced plans to cut some of its branches.
Yesterday, it was announced that Karaoke Bank is up for sale and will likely go for a song, while today, shares in Kamikaze Bank were suspended after they nose-dived.
While Samurai Bank is soldiering on following sharp cutbacks, Ninja Bank is reported to have taken a hit, but they remain in the black.
Furthermore, 500 staff at Karate Bank got the chop and analysts report there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank where it is feared that staff may get a raw deal.

Last Monday when everyone was talking about the bailout someone posted a link to a report that someone had done and at the end of the report it gave a list of banks that were not on good term(close to closing). There was 2 on there from IL....News tonight said one of them had closed today.....That was one heck of long list......wonder how many more on that list is going to close real soon?

re: #86 realwest

Hey, real. Just about to go downstairs for lunch, what do you think of what happened in #60?

re: #78 Syrah

How very interesting. I will have to keep that idea in my back pocket. Does it really work?

For my situation, there is nothing to copy or save. It was a hobby kick-about piece of junk that I was just having some fun with. I was doing a clean install with a full disk partition scheme. I think I may have aborted the install at exactly the wrong moment, or that the disc was just doomed to fail anyway. Hard drives are kind of delicate in a "treat them very gently" sort of way. The machine had a very hard life before I got it. It may have just been the hd's time to shuffle off this mortal coil.

Thanks for the idea though.

It really works - think of the physics.

Old drive - worn and sloppy.
Frozen drive - shrunk and tight.

You may only get 10 minutes or so out of the drive before terminal failure so don't putz around once you remove it from the fridge.

Rachel Ray has a thing for corn.

[Link: break.com...]

re: #70 lummox
Another ROTFLMAO! Hey whaddya do, stay up all day thinking these things up or what?!

re: #87 Inquisitive

Last Monday when everyone was talking about the bailout someone posted a link to a report that someone had done and at the end of the report it gave a list of banks that were not on good term(close to closing). There was 2 on there from IL....News tonight said one of them had closed today.....That was one heck of long list......wonder how many more on that list is going to close real soon?

Forgot to add.....I know yours was just a pun.....But

re: #81 lummox

If a politician found he had cannibals cannabis among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries smoke it before dinner.” —H. L. Mencken me

Since we have only what they let us have...

re: #87 Inquisitive

Last Monday when everyone was talking about the bailout someone posted a link to a report that someone had done and at the end of the report it gave a list of banks that were not on good term(close to closing). There was 2 on there from IL....News tonight said one of them had closed today.....That was one heck of long list......wonder how many more on that list is going to close real soon?

Heh - that was Moi.

re: #20 zombie

Can't you just low-level reformat it and start afresh? You lose any data on it, but unless the hard drive is physically damaged, can't you always just wipe it clean by reformatting it completely?

www.carbonite.com- $50 a year. I accidentally deleted about 20 gigs worth of movies and was able to recover them!

any thoughts on possible merger between GM & Chrysler? Can't be good...

Lummox: That was one great rant! Mind if I repost it over at Net Cafe?

re: #90 DesertSage

Rachel Ray has a thing for corn.

[Link: break.com...]

Also a thing for terrorist-chic.

re: #70 lummox

Following the problems in the financial markets around the US and Europe, uncertainty has now hit Japan.
In the last seven days Origami Bank has folded. Sumo Bank has gone belly up and Bonsai Bank announced plans to cut some of its branches.
Yesterday, it was announced that Karaoke Bank is up for sale and will likely go for a song, while today, shares in Kamikaze Bank were suspended after they nose-dived.
While Samurai Bank is soldiering on following sharp cutbacks, Ninja Bank is reported to have taken a hit, but they remain in the black.
Furthermore, 500 staff at Karate Bank got the chop and analysts report there is something fishy going on at Sushi Bank where it is feared that staff may get a raw deal.

I hear they are trying to unravel the positions taken by Ramen Bank.

Pair of suspects held after throwing molotov cocktail at McCain mural in Oregon:

[Link: www.katu.com...]

Oh those tolerant lefties, when will Obama contain the rage of his followers!

re: #71 victor_yugo

No, that's Free Willie.

/biggest waste of celluloid i've ever seen

Free Willy.

While supplies last.

re: #96 JeremiahRight

any thoughts on possible merger between GM & Chrysler? Can't be good...

General-Daimler America?

"I'm Jeremiah Wright, and I support G. D. America!"

re: #88 lazardo
I think it's bullshit but it doesn't matter if his son asked him to do it; a taser isn't a fucking toy - it has been known to KILL full grown men and that Trooper showed piss-poor or NO judgement at all.
What about the boozing, any comments on that?

GM & Chrysler are two limping former giants who over and over again zigged when the market zagged. Add on the almost impossible union commitments and bad management, sad to say but they just aren't very strong companies at this point.

IF they can figure out fuel effeciency or be actually innovative they might just have a chance. I wouldn't count on it though.

re: #101 stuiec

Free Willy.

While supplies last.

Free Tibet!

Georgia half-off!

re: #75 Alouette

Keeping kosher in Dixie must be a real challenge.

re: #102 victor_yugo

General-Daimler America?

"I'm Jeremiah Wright, and I support G. D. America!"

LOL!

I'm dropping down a few lines from Bill Whittle's Essay titled Trinity: The Three Pillars of American Success:

The first of these three pillars has several names: private property, the free market, enlightened self-interest. But the first essential element of the American Trinity, and the hardest to come to grips with, is Capitalism.

Capitalism just galls some people. They just. Can't. Stand it.

Now I have thought about this one long and hard, and no matter how I look at it, I come to the same striking conclusion, and that is this:

Where you stand on the political spectrum, what you think of rich and poor people, and what you think about rich and poor nations and how they should act in the world, comes down, in my mind, to one single issue, and one only: Can wealth be created, or can it only be redistributed?

If you believe, as I do, that wealth can be manufactured out of thin air, then there is no limit to the amount of wealth you can amass. And since you are creating it out of thin air, there is no moral onus on making money -- you work hard to create it and have stolen from no one. There is an expression for this: you earned it.

Indeed, since charity depends on excess wealth, excess capacity, the more you make for yourself the better off everyone else is. You can even throw charity out the window if you are so hard-hearted; the fact remains that you will spend that money to get the things you want, and the more you have the more you can spend. That money goes to other people. This interchange is called "The Economy," and rich societies are rich because they understand in their bones the centerpiece of Capitalist thinking: Wealth can be created from thin air by human ingenuity and hard work.

Now people on the left have, in their guts, a revulsion towards the rich and the wealthy, because whenever they see wealth they naturally assume that it was stolen from people without any -- the poor. That rich man in the private jet has taken the wealth from all the poor people and is therefore a criminal.

re: #96 JeremiahRight

any thoughts on possible merger between GM & Chrysler? Can't be good...

Toilet bowls swirl to the right in the northern hemisphere - to the left in the southern.

Take your pick - either way they are going down ... it's only a matter of time.

Unless we socialize them. Vote carefully.

I always think of that clip where he screams "it's in the biiiiiiiiiii-ble!"

re: #100 Indymaestro

They look like a couple of thugs. Hope the prosecutor charges them with arson.

re: #77 Bobibutu

SpinRite
[Link: www.grc.com...]
[Link: www.grc.com...]

absolute killer app. Has saved my bacon only 3 times over 25 years + ... you don't think you'll ever need it till you do. The nice thing is you can pull your fat out of the fire after the fact.

It is wise to run his free stuff to insure you are not at risk on the net.

Thanks.

Most of my machines are just toys for me to play with. Old junk that would otherwise be in the trash. I put them through cyber-hell before they finally give up the ghost.

For my mission critical systems, I back-up like a mad-man. Spin-rite sounds like it is for something more important than just book marks, youtube clips and news article. I will keep it in mind though.

re: #109 Bobibutu

Toilet bowls swirl to the right in the northern hemisphere - to the left in the southern.

Take your pick - either way they are going down ... it's only a matter of time.

Unless we socialize them. Vote carefully.

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

Its also what happens when you add on pension benefits that assume the company will never face lean times.

re: #79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

She is a Cunucklehead, you know...

Hey now, no dissing Canucks is allowed. They're freaking bad-ass, doncha know.

Man, I am glad they are our allies.

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

You can't blame GM's probably solely on union stuff, the management was just as bad. The thing that really hurt though IMO was pretty much ignoring the small car market while Toyota and Honda ran circles around them.

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

[The Other Les pokes his head into the room and says,]

Never rush a cheeseburger.

[The Other Les just made one with Harvarti cheese on wheat bread. One of the problems with being my kind of alien symbiont is that I can't taste what he is tasting. Darn...]

re: #117 middlecon

the SUV/truck gravy train sure came to a screeching halt

We must believe in free will — we have no choice.

/I'd say hello Obama voters, but what's the point?

REALWEST

jus sent a e-mes, blocked, and so now I ask, ya doing o.k?

Off to the rack with me....

RJB

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

What will happen with no solution is a combination of higher taxes and reduced benefits. I think everyoen under 50 pretty much realizes that reduced benefits will be a way of life.

re: #112 Syrah

Thanks.

Most of my machines are just toys for me to play with. Old junk that would otherwise be in the trash. I put them through cyber-hell before they finally give up the ghost.

For my mission critical systems, I back-up like a mad-man. Spin-rite sounds like it is for something more important than just book marks, youtube clips and news article. I will keep it in mind though.

Roger M/C ...

re: #114 realwest

See YA!

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey now, no dissing Canucks is allowed. They're freaking bad-ass, doncha know.

Man, I am glad they are our allies.

I'm with you. That's a fierce man. Shame about the bear's cubs, though. Not a story with a happy ending.

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

A moonbat cow-orker of mine regaled us Friday with a story saying exactly that. Only they were sending defective parts to NASA, and had no paper trail to audit.

Company closed up two years later, left about 40 ppl unemployed.

re: #113 LizardoidCaptain

That happen's when union auto workers get to tell engineers how to propertly make a car.

Yeppers - and all the other goodies costs to tack on.

re: #114 realwest

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

Sleep well.

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

hey, no worries. Just print up some more money! I always wondered what it would be like pushing a wheelbarrow full of dollars around to buy a loaf of bread.

re: #124 Bobibutu

i love that, i like seeing 2 voodo2 video cards running doom 3 type stuff, just like laserdisc and other before their time oddities.

To deny free will is to deny personal responsibility for one's own actions. And in an age when one can kill more people with the stroke of a pen than with a life time's use of a personal weapon that is a pretty useful excuse.

re: #130 JeremiahRight

yup i keep telling people that not even cash is safe, their is a thing called inflation

re: #19 J.D.

Obama jewelry

Anagrams for "Obama Rocks"

Aback Rooms
Samba Crook
Backroom As
Cobras Amok
A Boar Mocks
A Smack Boor
Back As Moor
Bask Orca Om
Boar Sack Om
Bra Sack Moo
Bra Amok Cos
Bar Sack Moo
Rack Ma Boos
Rack Am Boos
Cask Oar Mob
Sack Oar Mob
Mac Oak Bros
Mac Soak Bro
Coma Ska Bro
Coma Ask Rob
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Cram Ska Boo
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Scam Oak Rob
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Orca Ska Mob (fantastic band name!)
Arc Amok Sob
Car Mask Boo
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Scar Oak Mob
Scar Ma Book
Sac Amok Rob
Sac Okra Mob
Okra As Comb

"God is a Republican, and Santa Claus is a Democrat." — H.L. Mencken

Its 11:20 and Im bombed!

re: #130 JeremiahRight

hey, no worries. Just print up some more money! I always wondered what it would be like pushing a wheelbarrow full of dollars around to buy a loaf of bread.

I don't want to find out, so I'm voting for McCain. That's all for me till tomorrow.

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

I don't want to find out, so I'm voting for McCain. That's all for me till tomorrow.

I'm voting for McCain too but do you really think any administration in 2008 is going to be tight with the dollars? Reagan has been just about the only president who ever cared and he's long gone :(

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

Damn nice find RM - thx.

Any thoughts on this Obama video?

I'm not familiar with this attorney, but he doesn't seem crazy and makes a compelling case.

re: #136 Maximu§

Its 11:20 and Im bombed!

/check out Kim from the last thread

re: #75 Alouette

I gave all my kids free will to do what they wanted. So now my youngest son is getting married to a young belle, the only eligible JEWISH girl in all of ALabama! It will be the FIRST "AUHENTIC" Jewish/Hasidic/Ultra-Orthodox weddin' in Alabama. The weddin' is in 4 weeks in Birmingham. Should I bre notifyin' the media?

Yee-Hahhhh!

Any lizards who live in Birmingam, give a shout out (through my website) http:www.jewish-history.com, "contact us" if you want to be at thi event.

OK, I may be a little slow, but here are the official rules.

If you must write "y'all," please at least spell it right. It's a contraction of "you all," not ya'll (ya? ll?).

And the final rule: Never address a lone individual as "y'all." It is the plural form of "you," and is to be used only in addressing two or more people. Example: "Hey, how y'all? How's y'momma'n'them?"

Word of caution: don't let yankee transplants who now live in the south (and therefore now know all there is to know about the south) tell you any different.

One last thing... ok two last things:
1. If you are (deranged and) do not believe in gun ownership, keep your mouth shut!
2. Do not even mention Auburn or 'Bama until you know who you're talking to! You want to live to see your grandchildren.

yup i keep telling people that not even cash is safe, their is a thing called inflation

There's a thing called compounding interest, too.

"Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you’re not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. ‘Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That’s just the way it is."
Josie Wales

re: #117 middlecon

You can't blame GM's probably solely on union stuff, the management was just as bad. The thing that really hurt though IMO was pretty much ignoring the small car mainrket while Toyota and Honda ran circles around them.

SUV's were more profitable and people were willing to pay. It was cheaper to make SUV's because they were essentiall all the same excecpt for trim. GM and Chrysler make compact cars, it's just that no one wants to buy them because the don't compare with Japan's version. Is Japan just superior to the USA at making cars or is there something more to it? I seriously doubt the American Engineers are not as smart as those in Japan. It has more to do with ability to make decisions in a fast moving market. What hinder's a rapid change on an assembly line. Cost, time, training, and will. How many times has the UAW has lawsuits against GM or Chrysler or had major strikes? Then how many has there been in Japan? Management is also a problem they have just gotten used to they business is done in the Auto Industry. Stagnation.

Back, anyone still awake?

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

I'm with you. That's a fierce man. Shame about the bear's cubs, though. Not a story with a happy ending.

I agree, a bit of a sour ending, but shit! The dude beat a bear to death with a branch. And a female bear at that.

Let that sink in. A human beat a female bear to death with a branch. A bear! To death! With a freaking branch!

That dude has so much "street cred" right now he probably won't have to buy his own drinks for a year.

Still here, still awake. How long that's going to last? Well we will see. :)

re: #131 pegcity

i love that, i like seeing 2 voodo2 video cards running doom 3 type stuff, just like laserdisc and other before their time oddities.

Ah - Laserdisk - I actually had one once upon a time - my dtr confiscated it and the Sound of Music disk - she watched it almost non-stop as a baby and young girl.

I figured it was better to let her have it than attempt re-possession.

re: #148 BlueCanuck

harper still leading despite economy, are you getting crap in your newspapers like that these days

re: #142 LeePro

And the final rule: Never address a lone individual as "y'all." It is the plural form of "you," and is to be used only in addressing two or more people. Example: "Hey, how y'all? How's y'momma'n'them?"

Actually you can address someone as a plurality if they are regnant royalty, an editor, or have tapeworms.

re: #100 Indymaestro

Pair of suspects held after throwing molotov cocktail at McCain mural in Oregon:

[Link: www.katu.com...]

Oh those tolerant lefties, when will Obama contain the rage of his followers!

Let me know. I'll open an ice-skating rink in hell.

On second thought, he'd tax me out of business.

re: #149 Bobibutu

such strange technology, it had analog output , it was a giant CD, bah just weird.

hello every one

re: #145 LizardoidCaptain

SUV's were more profitable and people were willing to pay. It was cheaper to make SUV's because they were essentiall all the same excecpt for trim. GM and Chrysler make compact cars, it's just that no one wants to buy them because the don't compare with Japan's version. Is Japan just superior to the USA at making cars or is there something more to it? I seriously doubt the American Engineers are not as smart as those in Japan. It has more to do with ability to make decisions in a fast moving market. What hinder's a rapid change on an assembly line. Cost, time, training, and will. How many times has the UAW has lawsuits against GM or Chrysler or had major strikes? Then how many has there been in Japan? Management is also a problem they have just gotten used to they business is done in the Auto Industry. Stagnation.

Good pionts Captain, but no company can blame their problems on the employees, management has to take some blame in any company's failure. I live in the heart of (former) GM country, there are so many retirees who are just outright spoiled, and yes thats the word for it. Big pension, free healthcare. They live lives that other people can only dream of.

re: #136 Maximu§

I'll give ya type-o logic, I be more bombed than you 3 yars posting,
Mr. Johnson holds me cards.....funny, he has not banned me yet.
Every court needs a jester I fathom.........where the ....there's me
glass..off to bed now

have fun youngster.....

re: #141 Killian Bundy

/check out Kim from the last thread

Thats me, armed to the freaking teeth

re: #155 middlecon

what i never understood was why gm didnt just bring over their european lineup.

opels aren't too bad.

i mean the cadillac caterra was a disaster but their small cars are not too bad.

God Damnit...why did the Rays have to have Wheeler come out for a fourth inning? And what the hell is wrong with Big Papi...He is got to break out sooner or later; otherwise, it is over. Pats tommorow and then Lester (do or die) on Monday...Go Sox...........................

P.S. Please say a prayer for my fellow Red Sox fan, Dean Barnett.

re: #148 BlueCanuck

Can I just wave and jump off the trolley fore ya see me?

re: #158 pegcity

Ford once remarked that it couldn't bring over their new Focus because it would cost more than a Mustang.

Wth.

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?

Merci in advance...

re: #159 RedSoxNation

God Damnit...why did the Rays have to have Wheeler come out for a fourth inning? And what the hell is wrong with Big Papi...He is got to break out sooner or later; otherwise, it is over. Pats tommorow and then Lester (do or die) on Monday...Go Sox...........................

P.S. Please say a prayer for my fellow Red Sox fan, Dean Barnett.

Red Sox split on the road, I think any team would be happy with that. They are the favorites to win the World Series.

re: #158 pegcity

Saturn's lineup includes Opels, actually. You might want to check those out.

[The Other Les has another thought for the day]

"Politicians are primarily concerned about three things, getting elected, getting reelected, and getting laid."

[As far as I can tell it doesn't hurt.]

re: #161 lazardo

true, their european car's arent junk and actually cost money to produce.

the new saturns are nice for that very reason, their just rebadged opels

re: #154 winston06

hello every one

Hiya!

re: #153 pegcity

such strange technology, it had analog output , it was a giant CD, bah just weird.

Hey - it entertained and educated my kid for 4-5 years - passing fancy.

I'm a techno nut and loved it. Weird? yes - but only by looking back.

re: #166 pegcity

German cars aren't junk. French cars, on the other hand... [=

/Top Gear fan

re: #164 lazardo

Saturn's lineup includes Opels, actually. You might want to check those out.

Gm needs 4 car divisions tops, this what 7 division crap needs to stop.

their dealer network is so messed up, this selling one car as a chevrolet and one pontiac and another gmc is just a waste of money

re: #60 lazardo

Good afternoon, Reptilia! Someone just replied to a comment on my art forum saying that the trooper-in-question's son literally asked for it.

Wth.

Ok, lazardo, you're sorta young. What if you asked your dad what a knife in the belly feels like... you expect a demonstration...?

}:-(

re: #162 Cognito

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?

Merci in advance...

Do you have a specific question?

re: #169 lazardo

i have a german car, love it, until i break something on it.

i swear they stuff razor blades all over the engine bay, everytime i do anything i cut myself.

re: #172 Bobibutu

voip on the iphone?

maybe a jailbroken hacked one, no way apple will allow that though stock

re: #170 pegcity

Gm needs 4 car divisions tops, this what 7 division crap needs to stop.

their dealer network is so messed up, this selling one car as a chevrolet and one pontiac and another gmc is just a waste of money

So which divisions would you keep and which one's would you dump?

re: #155 middlecon

Good pionts Captain, but no company can blame their problems on the employees, management has to take some blame in any company's failure. I live in the heart of (former) GM country, there are so many retirees who are just outright spoiled, and yes thats the word for it. Big pension, free healthcare. They live lives that other people can only dream of.

I did point some the blame at management. Management Stagnation is a by product of bureaucracies of aging publicly traded enterprises. Share holders only want profits, Management want's to make shareholders happy. Share holders have no responsibility for longer term strategic thought. Neither should Management. Can you tell I'm a little biased against large publicly owned companies? I think Ford will be the only company to come through this crisis in the long run. They are now looking for long term stake in their own interest.

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey now, no dissing Canucks is allowed. They're freaking bad-ass, doncha know.

Man, I am glad they are our allies.

YEAH! ! !

And the {Blue} ones are our friends!
;D

re: #150 pegcity

Heck ya. The Red Star is so far in the tank for the libs it's sickening. Actually saw the english leaders debate and wished I hadn't run out of booze before watching it. If one of the opposing leaders had called Harpers administration pro-Bush one more time by the end I would have been short a computer.

re: #172 Bobibutu

Do you have a specific question?

I have a crummy cell signal here at home, but I've got good wifi, so I thought VOIP might be a good option. I see that Fring has released a new app for the iPhone, but I don't know anything about how VOIP works, really... Apparently I need something called SIP or Skype.

A babe in the woods, really. All new to me.

re: #174 pegcity

voip on the iphone?

maybe a jailbroken hacked one, no way apple will allow that though stock

Sure they do. A couple of providers now, and at least one more on the way...

re: #177 LeePro

Morning {Lee}, sorry if I am a little slow today. ;)

/been up since 12 noon today.
//one week till B.C.

re: #162 Cognito

Anyone here know anything about VOIP? Particularly on the iPhone?

Merci in advance...

I only know that it can sound really poor at times. The signal will wash in and out like the waves on the seashore.

I received a call from a call center located somewhere in Asia. They were using VOIP. It sounded absolutely dreadful. The caller's thick Asian accent did not help much either.

re: #171 LeePro

I guess they thought that Tasers weren't lethal.

Or that the associated meme was too funny not to re-enact.

/idiots, either way.

re: #142 LeePro

7. Don't order wheat toast at the Cracker Barrel. If you do this, everyone will know you're from Ohio. Eat the biscuits like God intended and for goodness sake, don't put sugar in your grits.

I almost did that on my first introduction to grits. My buddy from Georgia looked at me like I was about to put a baby in a blender. "Grits ain't fuckin' oatmeal, stupid"!

re: #169 lazardo

German cars aren't junk. French cars, on the other hand... [=

/Top Gear fan

Hey ... the du cheveu (2 horse) - was no slouch and the

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

was way cool.

re: #182 Syrah

Ha -- that sounds like a nightmare. I've been in similar situations and been horrified to find myself vaguely murmuring, "Yeah... all right... yeah..."

Meanwhile thinking, "What am I assenting to, here?"

re: #185 Bobibutu

Those were Le Glory Days. The DS was groovy. These days though, only Citroen (still?) gets it right.

re: #105 victor_yugo

Free Tibet!

Georgia half-off!

Save the whales!
Earn valuable prizes!

re: #174 pegcity

voip on the iphone?

maybe a jailbroken hacked one, no way apple will allow that though stock

Yeah - that's why I asked for a specific question.

Lots of chiselers out there.

Posted upthread, but definitely worth emphasizing:

"If Obama IS a natural-born American citizen, WHAT IS HE HIDING?"

/it Zero Boy is NOT a natural-born American citizen, he's ineligible to serve as prez!

re: #110 JeremiahRight

I always think of that clip where he screams "it's in the biiiiiiiiiii-ble!"

Some of those guys can get 10 syllables out of a two-syllable word.

re: #190 Karridine

My duh! Linkie here

Nite, All....

/Stay frosty

re: #189 Bobibutu

Yeah - that's why I asked for a specific question.

Lots of chiselers out there.

I'll assume you didn't intend that to be as insulting as it sounds.

If you can provide any advice, I'd appreciate a short discussion.

Otherwise, thanks anyway.

re: #118 rawmuse

You thought 700 billion was a big number?
Then don't read this article.

Holy crap.

re: #183 lazardo

Nay, tazeth me not brother.

re: #190 Karridine

Posted upthread, but definitely worth emphasizing:

/it Zero Boy is NOT a natural-born American citizen, he's ineligible to serve as prez!

I'm not a Michael Savage fan, but he was saying for a long time that BOTH McCain and Obama were ineligible due to not being born in the US, since McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

I'm not really familiar with the case against Obama, there's no proof he wasn't born in Hawaii is there?

G'day from Down Under to {everyone} on a lovely Sunday afternoon - glorious spring weather!

From Andrew Bolt's blog - something especially for our Canadian lizards

Interview (sort of) with Stephane Dion!

Of course the interview should have been in French according to some commenters........

re: #190 Karridine

McCain is Panamanian.

//////

re: #140 William

Any thoughts on this Obama video?

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

I'm not familiar with this attorney, but he doesn't seem crazy and makes a compelling case.

well, the Obama "fake" birth certificate issue was officially laid to rest on LGF in August in this post. But, I have never heard of this man Philip J Berg, or his federal lawsuit, or the theory that Obama was born in Kenya, although it does sound like it is being backed up by his own relatives. It definitely will be interesting to see where this goes, I'm intrigued.

re: #184 Slumbering Behemoth

I almost did that on my first introduction to grits. My buddy from Georgia looked at me like I was about to put a baby in a blender. "Grits ain't fuckin' oatmeal, stupid"!

Heh, butter, salt,pepper....maybe cheese.

re: #197 middlecon

I'm not a Michael Savage fan, but he was saying for a long time that BOTH McCain and Obama were ineligible due to not being born in the US, since McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

I'm not really familiar with the case against Obama, there's no proof he wasn't born in Hawaii is there?

Both parents of McCain were American citizens at time of birth... O-Boy's mother only, and she had NOT lived as an adult in America for 5 years (19 at Obama's birth)...

Watch the video... its compelling, real-world stuff! NO legalese...

re: #199 lazardo

fortunately, McCain is a natural-born American citizen... and has produced certification of such.

re: #186 Cognito

Ha -- that sounds like a nightmare. I've been in similar situations and been horrified to find myself vaguely murmuring, "Yeah... all right... yeah..."

Meanwhile thinking, "What am I assenting to, here?"

I would deffer to Bobibutu on the technical workings. All that I know of it is from anecdotal experience.

It might be good for your situation, it might not. I really don't know.

The company I work for has a pilot program in the works for using VOIP for some of our work. I have only heard positive reports about it. I doubt if they have tested how the call sounds on the other end that much.

I raised a concern about it after I got that VOIP call. The program has since been stopped at work. I don't know if it was because of the concerns that I raised or some other factor.

I will have to look into it more. It could mean a huge cost savings for us if it can be made to work.

re: #195 Cygnus

Holy crap.

That's a bit inflammatory, that.

And after much hair-pulling and circle-running, it ends on a note that is positively bizarre:

Walker, who resigned as the comptroller general and head of the Government Accountability Office in March, said despite the current economic troubles facing the nation, he does not think a recession is imminent.

What?

If you're looking for true bearish analysis, go here.. That's the real stuff.

re: #187 lazardo

Those were Le Glory Days. The DS was groovy. These days though, only Citroen (still?) gets it right.

In every culture there are brilliant stars ...

I am reminded of a joke written on the wall of a popular French restaurant in Saigon back in the 60's.

something like this ...

Heaven is where you have an American house, a French mistress and live in Japan.

Hell is where the English are the cooks,
the Germans are the Police, and the Americans are the lovers.

re: #200 JeremiahRight

A link to the PDF (stipulating the specifics for the Court) was on LGF about 2 nights ago... I've got the PDF if you want it, Right...

re: #201 BignJames

Bacon! Must have bacon!

re: #204 Syrah

I would deffer to Bobibutu on the technical workings. All that I know of it is from anecdotal experience.

It might be good for your situation, it might not. I really don't know.

The company I work for has a pilot program in the works for using VOIP for some of our work. I have only heard positive reports about it. I doubt if they have tested how the call sounds on the other end that much.

I raised a concern about it after I got that VOIP call. The program has since been stopped at work. I don't know if it was because of the concerns that I raised or some other factor.

I will have to look into it more. It could mean a huge cost savings for us if it can be made to work.

I do a fair bit of overseas calling. Could be useful. But I literally don't know how to proceed.

It's like being born on a Monday and trying to pick out a flat-screen television by Tuesday. "What's Sony? Is it a good one?"

re: #2 Bobibutu

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

So, the fact that 6 of you met in San Francisco is somehow supposed to assure us this isn't a leftist trap?!?

Better question: Why did these start only after I moved out of Walnut Creek?

re: #203 Karridine

I won't go deeper into Obama not being "natural-born" though. I was born to Filipino citizens on U.S. soil. >_>

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Eeeew....

I think Occam's razor works for Obama's Hawaii birth, there is simply no evidence otherwise.

re: #199 lazardo

McCain is Panamanian.

//////

McCain was born to a deployed Naval officer, the Constitution says "natural born", not born within the geographical border. Big difference if you ask me.

re: #208 Slumbering Behemoth

Bacon! Must have bacon!

I know what you mean. Sometimes I just get hungry for bacon, too.

re: #194 Cognito

I'll assume you didn't intend that to be as insulting as it sounds.

If you can provide any advice, I'd appreciate a short discussion.

Otherwise, thanks anyway.

What is your question Cog?

re: #198 aussiemagpie

Wow, and they actually broadcast that? I knew from before that Stephane was weak, but that was just sickening. Hopefully this will push the undecideds to the Conservative camp.

Where was Lord President Onama borrn and were either of his parents U.S. citizens?

/the rest is pretty easy to figure out

re: #211 lazardo

I don't think your situation parallels Obama's... and the video is quite compelling, in that Lawyer Berg says: "IF, however, Obama WAS a natural-born citizen, he LOST THAT when his mother married Soetero AND Barry's step-father (adopted him OR acknowledged him) in Indonesia."

It doesn't rest on one tiny piece, but on a whole range of legalities barring Obama from the US presidency!

re: #210 gmsc

So, the fact that 6 of you met in San Francisco is somehow supposed to assure us this isn't a leftist trap?!?

Better question: Why did these start only after I moved out of Walnut Creek?

It is a tinfoil hat conspiracy. Because - I just moved in.

re: #214 JeremiahRight

Note the heavy application of sarc slashes.

re: #200 JeremiahRight

well, the Obama "fake" birth certificate issue was officially laid to rest on LGF in August in this post. But, I have never heard of this man Philip J Berg, or his federal lawsuit, or the theory that Obama was born in Kenya, although it does sound like it is being backed up by his own relatives. It definitely will be interesting to see where this goes, I'm intrigued.

There's details of the progress (as much as can be discussed while the case is ongoing) of the Berg vs. Obama case at Obamacrimes.com.

re: #216 Bobibutu

What is your question Cog?

Well, the first question was whether you're familiar with VOIP on iPhone. The "chislers" comment didn't inspire confidence, as VOIP on the iPhone is completely legitimate.

Setting that aside.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with SIP -- indeed what that is, exactly -- versus Skype.

Any thoughts?

re: #219 Karridine

Thankfully, my parents married years before they had me in the States. I'm currently holding dual citizenship (makes college a lot more affordable!) but I've been dropped hints that I may have to renounce one of them after a certain amount of time...

re: #207 Karridine

A link to the PDF (stipulating the specifics for the Court) was on LGF about 2 nights ago... I've got the PDF if you want it, Right...

I missed that one. Was it an actual post or something from the comments?

re: #218 Killian Bundy

Obama was born in Kenya, two days later flown to Hawaii and his birth registered by his 19-year-old American-citizen mother...

...but it gets worse...

re: #200 JeremiahRight

well, the Obama "fake" birth certificate issue was officially laid to rest on LGF in August in this post. But, I have never heard of this man Philip J Berg, or his federal lawsuit, or the theory that Obama was born in Kenya, although it does sound like it is being backed up by his own relatives. It definitely will be interesting to see where this goes, I'm intrigued.

That LGF post cites FactCheck.org. If you watch the clip, they state that the Annenberg Foundation funds FactCheck.org and Obama sat on the board of the Annenberg Foundation.

The Obama "birth certificate" has been published in 2 places (electronically, not physically): the Obama campaign website, and FactCheck.org.

re: #223 Cognito

Well, the first question was whether you're familiar with VOIP on iPhone. The "chislers" comment didn't inspire confidence, as VOIP on the iPhone is completely legitimate.

Setting that aside.

I'm trying to decide whether to go with SIP -- indeed what that is, exactly -- versus Skype.

Any thoughts?

Go with Skype.

re: #225 JeremiahRight

From the comments...

Wait one, I'll put it online for you to Download and read, Jeremiah

So 2 college students flew from Hawaii to Kenya and back for what reason?

AND are we to assume that any children born to teenage mothers are not eligible to become president?

I'm not going to research every president but surely one of them was born to a mother younger than 21.

re: #228 Bobibutu

I concur. I use Skype to talk to my brother in China and we get pretty good sound quality most of the time. And when it's poor it's not that bad. Worst I have had is an echo.

Gonna head out for a bit. Gotta take pictures of marketing gondolas (i.e. those brand-product "stand" thingies) because I'll be making one for my ID (Industrial Design) class. Cheers!

re: #221 lazardo

Note the heavy application of sarc slashes.

yes. right. it's been a long day for me. midnight out here on the left coast...

re: #151 The Other Les

LOL! ! !

re: #228 Bobibutu

Go with Skype.

Thanks. Do you know whether it's possible to receive incoming calls via Skype on the iPhone?

Or, for that matter -- why is there not simply a Skype app, as opposed to a middle man like Fring?

Here's that Obama video again, in case it seems lost in the thread:

re: #231 BlueCanuck

I concur. I use Skype to talk to my brother in China and we get pretty good sound quality most of the time. And when it's poor it's not that bad. Worst I have had is an echo.

Top of the line - constantly upgrading service. Nuff for me as well. I use it every day vs. landline.

re: #226 Karridine

Obama was born in Kenya, two days later flown to Hawaii and his birth registered by his 19-year-old American-citizen mother...

...but it gets worse...

/if true, that would make him legally ineligible for the Presidency of the United States, it's amazing the Bonkeys would let it get this far, linky?

re: #219 Karridine

I don't think your situation parallels Obama's... and the video is quite compelling, in that Lawyer Berg says: "IF, however, Obama WAS a natural-born citizen, he LOST THAT when his mother married Soetero AND Barry's step-father (adopted him OR acknowledged him) in Indonesia."

It doesn't rest on one tiny piece, but on a whole range of legalities barring Obama from the US presidency!

Being born an American citizen is a birth right that neither Obama's mother or his step-father can abrogate by claiming Obama is an Indonesian. All evidence suggests Obama was born an US citizen and no one can repudiate that citizenship except Obama himself, not his mother, step-father, or crazy uncle.

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Morning {Lee}, sorry if I am a little slow today. ;)

/been up since 12 noon today.
//one week till B.C.

B.C.?

Goodnight Lizards.

The morning comes too soon.

Must get some shut-eye.

re: #237 Bobibutu

Top of the line - constantly upgrading service. Nuff for me as well. I use it every day vs. landline.

Do you use the pay-as-you-go service? Or the subscription?

re: #241 Syrah

Goodnight Lizards.

The morning comes too soon.

Must get some shut-eye.

Good night, Syrah!

re: #235 Cognito

Thanks. Do you know whether it's possible to receive incoming calls via Skype on the iPhone?

Or, for that matter -- why is there not simply a Skype app, as opposed to a middle man like Fring?

If you have an internet connection to it ... yes.

The rest take up with the mfgs help desk.

re: #225 JeremiahRight

I missed that one. Was it an actual post or something from the comments?

Here it is, PDF (link for Download on the bottom of the frame)

And if you think FactCheck.org is the last word on things, have a look at their recent defense of Obama here:

Obama (August 2007): "We’ve got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we’re not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there."

At the time, then-Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney attacked Obama for the remark. But Obama was on solid ground. As The Associated Press concluded...

Was Obama "dishonorable" to say what he did? That's pretty strong language.

[Link: www.factcheck.org...]

For an elected official to state our troops are "just air-raiding villages and killing civilians" is, at the very least, dishonorable.

re: #240 LeePro

B.C.?

British Columbia. Going to a business convention and taking a week off from work at the same time. Ahhhh, the glourious Okanagan Valley.

re: #239 Neo Con since 9-11 Well, it seems American law sees it otherwise... according to Lawyer Berg, and a significant amount of case law precedents...

re: #192 Karridine

Already posted #140 above ⤴

re: #245 Karridine

Here it is, PDF (link for Download on the bottom of the frame)

awesome. thank you. also, I posted the youtube video in the spinoff links, only to see it had already been posted there an hour previous! Whoops, my bad. 1,000 pardons

re: #239 Neo Con since 9-11

Being born an American citizen is a birth right that neither Obama's mother or his step-father can abrogate by claiming Obama is an Indonesian. All evidence suggests Obama was born an US citizen and no one can repudiate that citizenship except Obama himself, not his mother, step-father, or crazy uncle.

Agree, and THIS is part of Berg's suit: Obama had a chance (or chances) to retain or regain his citizenship, but apparently hasn't...

And even then, it would be "Naturalized", not natural-born...

The laws at that time were quite specific, Neo

If this Obama 'citizenship' thing has legs than why would the McCain campaign keep it silent?

re: #247 BlueCanuck

British Columbia. Going to a business convention and taking a week off from work at the same time. Ahhhh, the glourious Okanagan Valley.

Countless relaxation bombs upon you.

BC - every human should see it while on the planet.

re: #249 LeePro

Yes'm, that's what I was referring to in #190 ...