Iran knows how to pull our strings. Pathetic.

The Coming Obama Thugocracy

Usually it is customary to fight a war before surrender.

puke

good luck barry, you're gonna need it. This guy is just a sleazy Chicago lawyer and he is way over his head for the job.

But ... but ... Obama is being nice. Why are the Iranians being so mean? It's just not fair.

Let's talk about health care.

Iran has outplayed us so many times I've given up counting.

Hey Iran! Kiss our ass MOFOs. (G_d forgive my language). I wonder what Obama is going to say about their preconditions? Okay? Sure? AAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

We can send them a message other ways.

Dinnerjacket :

It is the Americans who are in dire need of reestablishing ties with Iran, he underlined.

***

Flicking ass ......... Obama's new BFF ......... WAKE UP AMERICA ........ I would rather die than crawl over to the likes of that ............. Obama or Dinnerjacket what's the difference .....

Mark Steyn knows a little about what it feels like to be stripped of his freedom of speech.

They better hope the US does not find what I think we are going to find on their little death ship, that is a precondition for their continued existence.

I do believe that is the same statement the OBL made prior to 9/11. OBL told US to leave the ME. Is that a threat DinnerJacket?

I don't doubt Obama would indeed remove all forces from the Middle East and abandon Israel to appease the Iranians. Just to be a good "world citizen."

re: #12 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

They better hope the US does not find what I think we are going to find on their little death ship, that is a precondition for their continued existence.

Nuke 'em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Vice President for Media Affairs Mehdi Kalhor said on Saturday that Iran has set two preconditions for holding talks with the United States of America.

I have a counter proposal, how about we just bomb the [expletive deleted] out of your nuclear facilities and then maybe we'll have a chat.

/*very big sigh*

re: #3 unclassifiable

Usually it is customary to fight a war before surrender.

Yes, but the Donks seem to have picked up a tendency to put the cart before the horse.

Bombbombbombbombbombbombbombbomb

Was there a thread the other day about how Jerome Corsi was booted out of Kenya? If that is a sign of things to come for anyone researching Obama, then zeeg heil.

Yep, that's reasonable as hell. Obama would jump on it in a heartbeat! The US should renounce the UN and start a "league of Democracies". The fact that the Sauds and Iran dominate the UN is a disgrace

OT-back to Obama
Check this video out.
Here's a little peak into our future. Charming, no?

Let's put this to the global test first.

/

We all know that the polls showing Obama up by double digits are bullshit, and the numbers have been skewed. We all know the media is in the tank for Obama and have already declared him the winner.

Now the latest trick is to tell us sheep that McCain has conceded - just because he asked a few batshit crazy supporters to lighten up a bit.

And many are falling for this tactic. Tell us enough times that McCain is done and I guess it comes true right?

Don't fall for it!

It aint done yet. Get the word out on who Obama really is. Every day I hear stories about people on the left who do not know about Ayers, Rezko, and the 27 other scandals surrounding Obama.

Get the word out.

Pelosi is smelling an Obama win and may call the House back to work on her GLORIOUS spending plans...holy crap...and so it starts...

Would the Vice President for Media Affairs Mehdi Kalhor please stand next to this very convenient parking ramp?

Thank you.

I think someone should ask Obama what his response is to this overture by Iran. How about at the debate?

Obama will just be another Jimmy Carter, only further left (hard to imagine, isn't it?) He'll wring his hands, the NYT will praise his forebearance and cool way he avoids rushing to judgment etc. End result, we'll see reinvigorated Islamic Jihadism (remember, always remember, Osama bin Laden's "strong horse") because they will be emboldened by his apparent (and real) lack of principle and strength. Jimmy Carter was perceived as weak, because he was. Indecisive and vacillating. Obama has been that and more, never taking a position which could come back to show him for what he is. Voting present to avoid the possible criticism of being "wrong". He IS a moral coward and NO leader. I just hope we can survive two years of Democrats in power in the white house and congress before we get a chance to throw some of them out.

re: #23 Racer X

We all know that the polls showing Obama up by double digits are bullshit, and the numbers have been skewed. We all know the media is in the tank for Obama and have already declared him the winner.

Now the latest trick is to tell us sheep that McCain has conceded - just because he asked a few batshit crazy supporters to lighten up a bit.

And many are falling for this tactic. Tell us enough times that McCain is done and I guess it comes true right?

Don't fall for it!

It aint done yet. Get the word out on who Obama really is. Every day I hear stories about people on the left who do not know about Ayers, Rezko, and the 27 other scandals surrounding Obama.

Get the word out.

I agree...but isn't that the responsibility of our nominee? For instance, shouldn't he talk about it at the debate Wednesday?

And we would like a shrubbery. Not too big....

re: #29 golly_wog

And we would like a shrubbery. Not too big....

Ummmm, how about a mushroom...... A Very big mushroom.....

re: #29 golly_wog

And we would like a shrubbery. Not too big....

Ni!

re: #14 shibumi

I don't doubt Obama would indeed remove all forces from the Middle East and abandon Israel to appease the Iranians. Just to be a good "world citizen."

And then, as an added bonus for the Obamessiah, there would be no remaining "preconditions" for the One, thus enabling him to engage in kumbaya.

re: #23 Racer X

Get the word out.

I emailed our state GOP to volunteer. Haven't heard back from them. Great organizational skills.
*sigh*

For the sake of "peace" President Obama will accept those terms.
You wait and see.

Cocky gits, aren't they?

FFFFFUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK!

re: #33 Irene NYC

I emailed our state GOP to volunteer. Haven't heard back from them. Great organizational skills.
*sigh*

Who did you email? Where did you get that email address? There are a lot of different separate organizations, so a little leg work might be required. johnmccain.com is a good bet for the most cohesive response.

re: #33 Irene NYC

I emailed our state GOP to volunteer. Haven't heard back from them. Great organizational skills.
*sigh*

You should try to contact the McCain organization directly. I got e-mails and a phone call from the state campaign.

While I am not personally a member of the Tribe, I count many friends as members.

Why do they still support Obama? He will probably agree that we should not "interfere" in Israel (aka, leave them to the wolves)

Maybe Obama will say: "Oh good, now we have preconditions. We can agree to that. Yes we can."

To lighten the mood ...

All that "sweetnes & light" on the ballot.

All those guns, bombs, and angry fascists in a large part of the world.

C'mon John! Fight!

THat creature Debbie Wasserman Shultz is now on with Blitzer.
She is a Soohist,
"Bush is responcible for collapsing bridges!' Did Clinton fix them?
"McCain voted for a tax cut for the Rich! hey beyoch, all taxpayers got a cut.
She at least has the Liberal smirk & insults cold.

I was in Des Moines Friday and Saturday. Stopped at a liquor store and the Democrats had a voter registration booth set up on the booze store. They asked if I wanted to register to vote. I declined (I live in a different state). In hindsight, I wish I had asked what they needed from me to register. It would be interesting to see if I could have signed up with a fake name and fake local address. For those curious, it was at:

Central City Liquors
1460 2nd Ave
Des Moines, IA

re: #28 cblesz

I agree...but isn't that the responsibility of our nominee? For instance, shouldn't he talk about it at the debate Wednesday?

Absolutely!

The best thing McCain can do is come out and call Obama a fraud. Mention the ACORN scandal that is right now blowing up. Mention the fact he has not accomplished one damn thing, other than organize people to vote for a fraud. He had the audacity to write TWO memoirs with nothing on his record.

It is also up to us, you and me, to help McCain! Obama has rabid supporters who are taking to the streets. That is the difference.

We need to get the truth out there.

re: #43 opnion

THat creature Debbie Wasserman Shultz is now on with Blitzer.
She is a Soohist,
"Bush is responcible for collapsing bridges!' Did Clinton fix them?
"McCain voted for a tax cut for the Rich! hey beyoch, all taxpayers got a cut.
She at least has the Liberal smirk & insults cold.

I mean Sophist.

re: #22 simonml

Let's put this to the global test first.

/John Kerry might seriously be the next Secretary of State, how cool is that?

re: #44 Dave the.....

I was in Des Moines Friday and Saturday. Stopped at a liquor store and the Democrats had a voter registration booth set up on the booze store. They asked if I wanted to register to vote. I declined (I live in a different state). In hindsight, I wish I had asked what they needed from me to register. It would be interesting to see if I could have signed up with a fake name and fake local address. For those curious, it was at:

Central City Liquors
1460 2nd Ave
Des Moines, IA

In college I think I could've used the bar as my address. Spent enough time there

re: #33 Irene NYC

I emailed our state GOP to volunteer. Haven't heard back from them. Great organizational skills.
*sigh*

Email?
Try picking up a telephone and speaking to an actual human being.

For your entertainment.

via hotair...another explanation of the fiancial meltdown. Why can't McCain EXPLAIN this in a thorough, clear manner Wednesday then ask...do you want Pelosi, Reid, Obambi, Dodd, Schumer in charge unchecked for 4 freaking years?!?!?!

[Link: hotair.com...]

Oh and by the way, the iranian state can go fuck itself.

Obama's ears are twitching - ready for some "tough diplomacy".

What preconditions? There are no such preconditions to talk with Iran. Ain't gonna happen.

re: #47 Killian Bundy

/John Kerry might seriously be the next Secretary of State, how cool is that?

In the name of the Almighty Obama, that scares me more than Hilldog on the Supreme Court! Well, they're about evenly scary

Now the latest trick is to tell us sheep that McCain has conceded - just because he asked a few batshit crazy supporters to lighten up a bit.

Many people can write books on this election:

Voter fraud
Fake registrations
PDS
Non-stop attacks on Gov'r Palin while ignoring Barry's past
You are racist if you don't vote for The One
MSM now telling us it's over and to give up

re: #14 shibumi

I don't doubt Obama would indeed remove all forces from the Middle East and abandon Israel to appease the Iranians. Just to be a good "world citizen."

Really not a good idea to let Israel get backed into a corner.

re: #24 cblesz

Pelosi is smelling an Obama win and may call the House back to work on her GLORIOUS spending plans...holy crap...and so it starts...

What?

re: #47 Killian Bundy

/John Kerry might seriously be the next Secretary of State, how cool is that?

It fits. Obama appointing a liar and a traitor? It fits.

re: #58 MandyManners

What?

spend, spend, spend....
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

re: #37 cliffster

re: #38 The Other Les

I have been trying to locate a McCain/Palin or GOP campaign headquarters in Manhattan where I can volunteer. I called the GOP state headquarters in some 516 area code number (which is Long Island), no one even picked up the phone. My emailing has gone unanswered. When I went through all the ghastly menus at the McCain website, all I got was that whatever "volunteer" positions were available in my zip code were already full up. I'll call national headquarters next.

Ya gotta admit. It's pretty discouraging.

Does this mean they'll add another set of strings to Obama's frame? Ones that can be manipulated frorm Iran?

Has the Obama campaign responded to this yet? That's a response I'd really like to see.

re: #49 looking closely

Email?
Try picking up a telephone and speaking to an actual human being.

I did that too. No one answered. There wasn't even a message machine.

Please, please, please let this be true and bring specifics up Wednesday...It is ALL ABOUT TAX CUTS, John....and stopping the slide of home values. Capital gains tax ELIMINATION from now to two years forward. Small business tax cuts AND more mortgage deduction would certainly resonate....BE CLEAR!

[Link: www.politico.com...]

re: #33 Irene NYC

I emailed our state GOP to volunteer. Haven't heard back from them. Great organizational skills.
*sigh*

I decided to Hades with that, I simply called and told them I was coming. And I just showed up and did what needed to be done.

What the hell, if I was them I would have made a 3rd demand . I would have insisted on a staring role in the new Teminator series.

You know the one would grant it.

Obama's endorsement of Giannoulias is Here

Headline on Hot Air:

Ohio: McCain, 48; Obama, 46 (it's an AP story)

Re: Iran and their "preconditions" - maybe the McCain campaign can whip up an ad with Obama saying "Yes, I'll meet with Iran without pre-conditions" and then have the above quote on the screen.

"Obama won't set an American frame-work for discussions with Iran. But Iran will set an anti-American, anti-Israel framework for discussions with us. Can we trust Barack Obama to represent OUR interests, and the interests of our allies?"

Israel is running out of time, they will HAVE TO go at it on their own, USA is in the middle of a crisis and Bush is helpless till he is out of office.

In the mean time, Iran is getting ready to develop their bomb, Israel has till Jan 20th to make their move.

God help us all.

re: #66 RememberSekhmet?

I decided to Hades with that, I simply called and told them I was coming. And I just showed up and did what needed to be done.

The PROBLEM is that I can't locate a campaign headquarters in MANHATTAN.

Is LGF wonky to others?
Last thread was fine. This one is all over to the left.

Some on the last thread took criticism of McCain as defeatism.
That is not it, we all want Obama beaten. What you are hearing is justified anger & frustration with McCain. This is not about him & how he returns to the Senate.
This is about heading off, a bloodless Socialist revolution.
We are not like Obama supporters, McCain is not Messiah, above crtiticism.

re: #60 cblesz

spend, spend, spend....
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Talk about chutzpah!

re: #70 El Lizardo mejicano

Israel is running out of time, they will HAVE TO go at it on their own, USA is in the middle of a crisis and Bush is helpless till he is out of office.

In the mean time, Iran is getting ready to develop their bomb, Israel has till Jan 20th to make their move.

God help us all.

They'll make their move at the right time. I have faith in their foreign policy.

Kerry at State is like declaring open season on American embassies abroad.

An Obama administration will represent a profound laming of America. If that happens, bullies the world over will press in for the kill.

Cf. the Carter years.

re: #72 newsjunkie_ky

Is LGF wonky to others?
Last thread was fine. This one is all over to the left.

Thats all the doom and gloomers throwing up the white flag.

re: #71 Irene NYC

The PROBLEM is that I can't locate a campaign headquarters in MANHATTAN.

How about calling one outside Manhattan and telling them what you want to do?

re: #47 Killian Bundy

/John Kerry might seriously be the next Secretary of State, how cool is that?

Yeah, how do you like the idea of Ayers & his psycho wife dining at the White House? Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn!

re: #71 Irene NYC

Did you try this? [Link: www.nycrepublican.org...]

By all means. Let's cut Israel loose. That is to say, lets let them off their leash. Without American and European 'peacemakers' involved in the process I don't think the world would have to so much worry about a nuclear Iran as a radioactive one.

The Islamic Republic of Iran can go suck a lemon.

re: #12 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

They better hope the US does not find what I think we are going to find on their little death ship, that is a precondition for their continued existence.

Who ended up with it BTW?

re: #76 godfrey

Kerry at State is like declaring open season on American embassies abroad.

An Obama administration will represent a profound laming of America. If that happens, bullies the world over will press in for the kill.

Cf. the Carter years.

"You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"

re: #74 MandyManners

Talk about chutzpah!

THAT is what we are in store for...argh!

Dear Mr. Mehdi Kalhor,

Kindly GFYS. Anatomically difficult but I'm certain you are capable of doing this.

And mister ah ... Vice-President ... is it?
Remember the Javalan? Yea, it was an Iranian Frigate hit by a stick of ordnance from a single USN A-6 (nickname: Avenger).
I understand that capital ship of your navy is missing the engine room since that encounter.
Come on out to play why don't ya? Mod2 Phalanx is ready for your rubber boat navy.

re: #75 simonml

They'll make their move at the right time. I have faith in their foreign policy.

When are the general elections in Israel, and what are the chances for Bibi?

The end of the American Century (really only 60 years) is approaching. Good luck, world. Maybe people will realize in a few decades that our ideas were better overall than those of the Chinese.

This will explain the *Greek* themes in the Zero's campaign LOLOL
LINKY

Future generations will curse the post WW-II Americans far more harshly than anyone has cursed the post WW-I British. They had one foolish generation in response to the cost of meeting a challenge and then rose to a challenge again. Their subsequent decline while sad was excusable in that they really did not have the resources and did have America to lean on. The US has no excuse. We had the post war generation lose its nerve over Vietnam and then the following generation is throwing in the towel before Islamic supremicism.

Obama will be tough on Iran? *pissing self laughter*

Obama's Foreign Policy Litany

I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems

I will not weaponize space

I will slow development of future combat systems

and I will institute an independent "Defense Priorities Board" to ensure the quadrennial defense review is not used to justify unnecessary spending

I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons

and to seek that goal, I will not develop nuclear weapons

I will seek a global ban on the production of fissile material

and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off hair-trigger alert

and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals

It's tempting to call this mindless stupidity, but I don't think it is. It's a deliberate offering of one's throat to the wolves.

re: #82 ClosetConservative

The Islamic Republic of Iran can go suck a lemon.

Hundreds, if not thousands, of large multi-ton ground penetrating lemons.

/again *very big sigh*

Something for Barack to consider

OBambi will gladly accept those conditions.

He's trying to beat out Cahtah as the dictionary definition of idiot feckless.

Well shoot - I was on the previous thread, responding to folks and when I finally get here I find nearly 100 comments already!
So I apologize if this has been said before, but I think this is GREAT NEWS, cause Obama said he'd meet with Iran with no preconditions whatsoever.So I'm sure that a President Obama (shudder) won't meet with 'em now that they want preconditions, right?!

re: #95 realwest

lol

If only!

re: #71 Irene NYC

The PROBLEM is that I can't locate a campaign headquarters in MANHATTAN.

New York Republican County Committee
122 East 83rd Street, New York, NY 10028
Phone: (212) 517-8444, Fax: (212) 517-3142

Does anyone know who ended up with the Iranian ship or is it still in the hands of the pirates?

re: #90 lifeofthemind

What happened to the Greatest Generation axiom of living within your means? People who didn't do that effed up our economy.

re: #88 ClosetConservative

The end of the American Century (really only 60 years) is approaching. Good luck, world. Maybe people will realize in a few decades that our ideas were better overall than those of the Chinese.

50/50 at the moment, the biggest problem is that MANY Americans have been Bamboozzled/Hoodwinkled by their messiah and the MSM.

Very sad days ahead of us, if Democrats lose, you can just imagine what will happen in this beautiful country.

Time to get prepared amigo(as)

On CNN , they are lauding McCain for defending Obama, just that he wasn't strong enough.
They are now starting to see the Maverick , that they love;.
I thought that Mavericks were loners, not joiners of the other herd.
Time is running out, McCain needs to get pissed at his opponents not his supporters.
I am not interested in him going back to the Senate with his "Honor Intact"
Fight damn it!

re: #87 El Lizardo mejicano

When are the general elections in Israel, and what are the chances for Bibi?

They must be held by March 2010, but probably Livni would call for earlier ones if she can get a coalition together. The latest poll has Livni and Netanyahu tied in event of an election.

Israel has a really screwed-up constitution (they apportion seats in the Knesset according to various groups, etc., so everyone has a say). It keeps them from presenting a strong, united face to their neighbors at times. I'd love to see that change.

Even if Iran never attacks Israel, Iranian nuclear weapons will cause other Arab states - Egypt, Jordan, etc. - to go after their own nuclear arms, endangering not just Israel but pretty much everybody. Obama's stance on Iran is doubly foolish: not only does he risk a second Holocaust, but he also risks a Sunni-Shia nuclear arms race.

Just a bit of an OT mood brightener:

Aledo HS elects its Homecoming Queen - a beautiful, popular senior girl with Down Syndrome

back in 1980 i had a F**K Iran T-shirt gonna have to make a new one

re: #98 BBev

Was it an Iranian ship? Didn't it have Russian tanks and weaponry?

re: #105 ClosetConservative

Was it an Iranian ship? Didn't it have Russian tanks and weaponry?

The one where the pirates died on it or from what is on it.

re: #82 ClosetConservative

The Islamic Republic of Iran can go suck a lemon dog turd.

FIFY

In the Parade insert of Sunday newspapers Your tax savings? under McCain/Obama

re: #85 cblesz

THAT is what we are in store for...argh!

Only if BHO wins, and I don't see that happening.

re: #80 MandyManners
Thanks Mandy, they're at the same location as this group who hold balls and what not but say nada about campaign work. It all is a bit confusing - I'll just go there in person.

re: #102 arethusa

They must be held by March 2010, but probably Livni would call for earlier ones if she can get a coalition together. The latest poll has Livni and Netanyahu tied in event of an election.

Israel has a really screwed-up constitution (they apportion seats in the Knesset according to various groups, etc., so everyone has a say). It keeps them from presenting a strong, united face to their neighbors at times. I'd love to see that change.

Even if Iran never attacks Israel, Iranian nuclear weapons will cause other Arab states - Egypt, Jordan, etc. - to go after their own nuclear arms, endangering not just Israel but pretty much everybody. Obama's stance on Iran is doubly foolish: not only does he risk a second Holocaust, but he also risks a Sunni-Shia nuclear arms race.

Israel needs a VERY STRONG hand at this very moment, America is fading away, the ONLY country that supports them.

re: #20 LoFlyer

Yep, that's reasonable as hell. Obama would jump on it in a heartbeat! The US should renounce the UN and start a "league of Democracies". The fact that the Sauds and Iran dominate the UN is a disgrace

A League of Democracies would merely evolve into another United Nations.

But the UN has no place being located in a country that is a protagonist in most of the worlds affairs. They should be located in a county like Switzerland, which is totally neutral.

We should then remove ourselves from the UN. It is an organization, which in theory, should be an ideal means to prevent strife and create a more prosperous world. In reality, being controlled by third world countries, it is merely a stage in which petty dictators get their shot at threatening the USA in peace while obtaining more money.

Frankly I can't think of a single time the UN has ever made anything better or solved a crisis. Korea was one of the UNs first challenges. Well, 58 years later and we are still there. And we are all still aware of how well the UN Peacekeeping force manned by French soldiers executed their mission in Lebanon when they requested anti-aircraft. To deal with Hizballah? No, to threaten the civilized neighbor of the country.

re: #71 Irene NYC

The PROBLEM is that I can't locate a campaign headquarters in MANHATTAN.

Try [Link: www.mccainmanhattan.org...] or [Link: www.metclubnyc.org...]
and [Link: www.johnmccain.com...] can link to events etc.

re: #93 FrogMarch
What?

"The collapse of the capitalist system based on usury and paper and not on goods traded on the market is proof that it is in crisis and shows that Islamic economic philosophy is holding up," said the Egyptian-born, Qatar-based cleric.

"The Western system has collapsed and we have a complete economic philosophy as well as spiritual strength," he said at Sunday's opening of a conference on Jerusalem.

"All riches are ours... the Islamic nation has all or nearly all the oil and we have an economic philosophy that no one else has," Qaradawi said.

He urged Muslims to "profit from the crisis to bring about the triumph of the (Islamic) nation, which holds the spiritual and material resources for victory."

So how come Iran has to IMPORT gasoline if your economic philosophy is so great, huh?
So how come when the largest Islamic Nation in the World was suffering terribly from a Tsunami a couple of years ago, private American Citizens collectively gave the Indonesian people MORE aid than all of the Muslim nations in the world COMBINED. Where did those private citizens get that money since we don't and never will follow your economic philosophy? And if your economic philosophy is so great, why didn't all the other Muslim nations in the World do more to help out the Muslims in Indonesia?!
Geebus, anyone who even sounds semi-rational over there is considered an "expert."

re: #98 BBev

Does anyone know who ended up with the Iranian ship or is it still in the hands of the pirates?

Iran PressTV says its been released and headed for international waters.

Which is total crap.

re: #99 ClosetConservative

What happened to the Greatest Generation axiom of living within your means? People who didn't do that effed up our economy.

Some of the Greatest Generation seems to have spoiled their children.

re: #98 BBev
IIRC the Iranians ransomed it back - from a news spot on Saturday or late Friday.

I'm willing to bet a tall frosty adult beverage that after the election, regardless of the winner, Israel will take care o' bidness vis-a-vis Iran's nuke infrastructure.

re: #108 yah

In the Parade insert of Sunday newspapers Your tax savings? under McCain/Obama

I don't trust those numbers. Have they factored in:
1. the recent economic events
2. the Dem spending plans

Good morning, All.

/It's show time...

"Iran wants USA out of the middle east.......well OK" -Prez Barack
"Iran wants nuclear missles...........well OK" -Prez Barack
"Iran wants to take over the Middle East............well OK" -Prez Barack
"Iran wants to destroy Israel..........well OK" - Prez Barack
"Iran wants to promote radical Islam worldwide...........well OK" - Prez Barack
"Iran wants to destroy America..........hey, now wait a minute, I need a place to be supreme leader!" -Prez Barack

2 conditions for talks with Iran; 1) throw out the mad mullahs, 2) stop the centrifuges. BTW, TCM is running a Paul Newman movie set in Cyprus and Israel just after WWII, what is the name? Can't find my tv guide!

re: #110 Irene NYC

Thanks Mandy, they're at the same location as this group who hold balls and what not but say nada about campaign work. It all is a bit confusing - I'll just go there in person.

Looks like a support group!

re: #118 majic1

I'm willing to bet a tall frosty adult beverage that after the election, regardless of the winner, Israel will take care o' bidness vis-a-vis Iran's nuke infrastructure.

Better do it before the Innaugaration.

re: #113 lifeofthemind
Thanks. Yes, I know of the Met Club and will go up there. The other two, been there done that.
;)

Straight from Obama's website:
Obama supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions.

Good grief, was there a party here last night. There seems to be a sort of community hangover or something going on. Never saw so much general gloom and doom, end of the world prognostication, and general depressed negativity. Good grief. Drink some water or get some air or something folks.

Republican have been dealt a rotten hand in this go-around but this election remains winnable. Buck up Lizards!

re: #105 ClosetConservative No, that was a Ukranian ship with the tanks and all. Don't know what the hell happened to it, last I heard US and Canadian warships had it surrounded - no other news that I know of.

re: #127 The Shadow Do

Screw negativity!

re: #69 Intrepid

Headline on Hot Air:

Ohio: McCain, 48; Obama, 46 (it's an AP story)

Yeah, but the polls are unreliable, since they don't sample
the many dead Ohioans who will be voting for Obama.

re: #115 RTLM

Iran PressTV says its been released and headed for international waters.

Which is total crap.

WTF don't we have it by now if it is in international waters?

re: #114 realwest

Fareed Zakaria writes a book about the decline of America & seems really down with it.
So, CNN gives the grinning fool a Sunday talk show, & TA DA!, today he will interview George Soros

re: #103 Intrepid

Just a bit of an OT mood brightener:

Aledo HS elects its Homecoming Queen - a beautiful, popular senior girl with Down Syndrome

Wow! America, YOU ROCK!
Texas, you grow em GOOD!

re: #122 pingjockey

2 conditions for talks with Iran; 1) throw out the mad mullahs, 2) stop the centrifuges. BTW, TCM is running a Paul Newman movie set in Cyprus and Israel just after WWII, what is the name? Can't find my tv guide!

Exodus.

re: #127 The Shadow Do

Republican have been dealt a rotten hand in this go-around but this election remains winnable. Buck up Lizards!

That's what we're trying to get across to the John McCain campaign. We want fight and McCain is going for reconciliation with the Donks and MSM.

re: #44 Dave the.....

I was in Des Moines Friday and Saturday. Stopped at a liquor store and the Democrats had a voter registration booth set up on the booze store. They asked if I wanted to register to vote. I declined (I live in a different state). In hindsight, I wish I had asked what they needed from me to register. It would be interesting to see if I could have signed up with a fake name and fake local address. For those curious, it was at:

Central City Liquors
1460 2nd Ave
Des Moines, IA

same here in nashville ......liquor stores with voter reg boxes ..... right next to obambi headquarters

When it comes to Obama wanting to talk to Iran...

Obama has never been about protecting America or leading the world to become a safer place.

Obama is running to become the American people's boss. He's never been about the idea of Presidents working for the American people. He wants to tell Americans what to do and what to think (including what to think about America.)

He wants to tell Americans how warm American homes can be and how much food Americans can eat. He wants to convince Americans that the country is a bad place that he intends to reinvent to his (and to other Marxists) liking.

Obama is about bringing America down so that he can "rebuild" it (as he has said in his ads many times) to be something other than what America has ever been up to now.

This is a political coup attempt by the Weather Underground and their ilk.

In November, America will either be saved from this horror or it won't.

I think the current polls are wrong, but I hope that the percentage of voting Republicans this year is extremely high.

re: #122 pingjockey

2 conditions for talks with Iran; 1) throw out the mad mullahs, 2) stop the centrifuges. BTW, TCM is running a Paul Newman movie set in Cyprus and Israel just after WWII, what is the name? Can't find my tv guide!

That would be Exodus.

re: #117 realwest

IIRC the Iranians ransomed it back - from a news spot on Saturday or late Friday.

That is such BS. why did we not take it

They had some ACORN lady on FNC this morning. Talk about spinning like a whirling dervish! "only one percent of all the people we've registered MAYBE fraudulent".

re: #122 pingjockey

2 conditions for talks with Iran; 1) throw out the mad mullahs, 2) stop the centrifuges. BTW, TCM is running a Paul Newman movie set in Cyprus and Israel just after WWII, what is the name? Can't find my tv guide!

The movie is Exodus, and ignore my #132 post, it was a misclick.

re: #112 Outrider

Yeah, I'm not fond of the "League of Democracies" idea - not because democratic countries using their significant economic power isn't a bad idea, but because I can see it becoming just like another UN. And it will not be popular with some of those democracies. The G-8, which is the closest thing to such a league as we have now, was really vitiated when Russia was included.

re: #135 MandyManners
Aha! Haven't seen it in years.

re: #133 opnion

Fareed Zakaria writes a book about the decline of America & seems really down with it.
So, CNN gives the grinning fool a Sunday talk show, & TA DA!, today he will interview George Soros

When?

re: #116 HDrepub

Or dropped them on their heads repeatedly.

re: #110 Irene NYC

Thanks Mandy, they're at the same location as this group who hold balls and what not but say nada about campaign work. It all is a bit confusing - I'll just go there in person.

Who's do they hold?

re: #144 pingjockey

Aha! Haven't seen it in years.

Eva Marie Saint is a hottie.

re: #145 MandyManners
Soros was on Bill Moyers the other day on PBS. He(Soros) looks like evil incarnate. Gives me the creeps.

re: #147 Wishing

Who's do they hold?

*snicker*

They’re very simple conditions, really. Just remove all US forces from the Middle East, and abandon Israel to the wolves.

Both are on Obama's "to do" list.

re: #141 pingjockey

They had some ACORN lady on FNC this morning. Talk about spinning like a whirling dervish! "only one percent of all the people we've registered MAYBE fraudulent".

They had an Acorn nit wit on the other day also the opposition could not get a work in edge wise.

re: #114 realwest

Ahmadinejad has run Iran's economy into the ground. In part, the nuclear program is to distract the electorate from that. I *hope* that when Iran holds elections - next year, I think? - Ahmadinejad will be out. Of course, the Supreme Council will probably just not allow anyone to oppose him, and Khameinei is still a problem.

Damn fucking British.

re: #150 MandyManners

Hold the balls, and the votes will follow...

re: #108 yah Uh, that's from the Tax Policy Center - funded by the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institute - go look 'em up and it DOES NOT include the numbers resultiing from Obama's letting the Bush Tax cuts lapse.
And btw, expect to see lots of other tax numbers come out of the Obama camp as they have before.
Please go read my #650 from the Dead Thread.

re: #57 AuntAcid

Really not a good idea to let Israel get backed into a corner.

Their Samson strategy would set back the Islamization work in Eurabia.

re: #153 arethusa
We need Iran to have an 'industrial accident' at their one and only refinery for gasoline.

re: #127 The Shadow Do

Good grief, was there a party here last night. There seems to be a sort of community hangover or something going on. Never saw so much general gloom and doom, end of the world prognostication, and general depressed negativity. Good grief. Drink some water or get some air or something folks.

Republican have been dealt a rotten hand in this go-around but this election remains winnable. Buck up Lizards!

Yeah, usually Lizard-dom is more cheerful in the mornings, then depressed in the afternoons, then ebullient at night. Definite pattern.

re: #131 BBev

WTF don't we have it by now if it is in international waters?

Maybe we want to see where its going.

re: #154 MandyManners

Damn fucking British.

Care to explain?

re: #119 jaunte
Hey my friend, good morning, er, afternoon to you.
Please see my #156.

Is anyone else too scared to check the polls? I haven't been to Rasmussen Reports for a week because it's just too depressing.

re: #154 MandyManners
How accurate is Exodus with the way the Brits treated the Jews? If it is even close, it was despicable.

re: #133 opnion

Fareed Zakaria writes a book about the decline of America & seems really down with it.
So, CNN gives the grinning fool a Sunday talk show, & TA DA!, today he will interview George Soros

i cannot stand him fareed .........cnn needs to just come out and say they want to be the socialist network ..... sympathizers ..... his smile says to me .... death to america .....

re: #163 ClosetConservative

Is anyone else too scared to check the polls? I haven't been to Rasmussen Reports for a week because it's just too depressing.

I'm not as anxious as I was, no. But I did look at Rasmussen today - 51-45 The One. Better than yesterday, but not by much.

re: #132 Scion9 Um, yes?

re: #161 yma o hyd
I'm watching Exodus on TCM, I think that is what Mandy is commenting on. Plus as my better half says, you're Welsh, not British!

re: #137 JacksonTn

same here in nashville ......liquor stores with voter reg boxes ..... right next to obambi headquarters

I'm thinking we need some massive overhaul in our national election laws.

1. Voter registrations will only be accepted at county election commission offices, and in person.

2. A valid picture ID must be presented at registration.

3. Background checks will be made to determine if the voter is eligible (ie convicted felon, illegal alien, residence)

4. A valid picture ID must be presented in order to vote.

5. Absentee ballots will be scrupulously checked for validity and tossed out if voter is ineligible.

6. Any GOTV organization that is found to be registering ineligible voters will face federal investigation, and if this organization is in violation in more than one state, that org's registrations are all invalidated.

7. No GOTV organization receives federal funds.

re: #144 pingjockey

"Exodus" is a lovely movie!

It's on my iPod Classic and on my iTouch.

re: #136 HDrepub

That's what we're trying to get across to the John McCain campaign. We want fight and McCain is going for reconciliation with the Donks and MSM.

A direct assault by McCain on Obama is a sure loser. If this Ayers, Rezko business keeps up the folks will tune out. In fact they already have.

Spent my life in sales and the first rule is do not bad mouth the competition. You give them sympathy and you end up looking petty.

For what it's worth (not much), I think McCain should continue to pound home experience vs. the Unknown One. In a time of crisis do you want the Presidency to be on the job training , or not?

re: #170 Adina in Judea
I haven't seen it in at least 15 years.

re: #162 realwest

Hi realwest; I've been looking for your 650 but I'm slow today. Is it on the overnight thread?

re: #158 pingjockey

They did that once, didn't they? Iran was cutting the ribbon on a nuclear plant when a couple of Israeli jets flew over and vaporized it a few years back, if I recall correctly.

re: #161 yma o hyd

Care to explain?

Watching Exodus.

Shoulda' said that Lizards are excepted. I apologize.

re: #169 Intrepid

3. Background checks will be made to determine if the voter is eligible (ie convicted felon, illegal alien, residence)

My mom in PA says that rumors are circulating there that anyone with an outstanding arrest warrant will be arrested if they show up to vote.

re: #175 MandyManners

Watching Exodus.

Shoulda' said that Lizards are excepted. I apologize.

Shoulda' said "British policy in 1947."

re: #169 Intrepid

The way I see it, it should be at least as hard to vote as it is to buy a gun in California. 14 days wait, background check, fingerprints, competency test.

re: #138 Adina in Judea

When it comes to Obama wanting to talk to Iran...

Obama has never been about protecting America or leading the world to become a safer place.

Obama is running to become the American people's boss. He's never been about the idea of Presidents working for the American people. He wants to tell Americans what to do and what to think (including what to think about America.)

He wants to tell Americans how warm American homes can be and how much food Americans can eat. He wants to convince Americans that the country is a bad place that he intends to reinvent to his (and to other Marxists) liking.

Obama is about bringing America down so that he can "rebuild" it (as he has said in his ads many times) to be something other than what America has ever been up to now.

This is a political coup attempt by the Weather Underground and their ilk.

In November, America will either be saved from this horror or it won't.

I think the current polls are wrong, but I hope that the percentage of voting Republicans this year is extremely high.

Remember earlier this year ....... dems kept saying ....... we have so many more democrats this year ...... that was the message they were pushing .... to intimidate republicans .......... now we know they have registered more democrats ....... but all the registered voters are not actually registered TO vote ........ because they are not actual people ........ it was just a scam to intimidate ........ that whole we have a million plus more dems registered we find out is crap .......the amount of democrats that will vote against him is more than anyone thinks .......... half my family are yellow dog dems and they are voting McCain .......

re: #159 arethusa
"Lizard-dom is more cheerful in the mornings, then depressed in the afternoons, then ebullient at night. Definite pattern."
I think it has more to do with sports than politics. In the afternoon lots of lizards watch their football/baseball teams lose or get into a dicey situation; evenings well some start to celebrate or commiserate with adult beverages; mornings always look bright!.
Just sayin........!

re: #172 pingjockey

I haven't seen it in at least 15 years.

It's nice that they're playing it on TCM!

Some observations on the accuracy of State polls...

State Poll Accuracy

re: #174 ClosetConservative

They did that once, didn't they? Iran was cutting the ribbon on a nuclear plant when a couple of Israeli jets flew over and vaporized it a few years back, if I recall correctly.

I think you're thinking of Osirak, which was a Saddam project. (right?)

re: #148 MandyManners
Who?

re: #167 realwest

Um, yes?

I wasn't trying to reply to you. I misclicked on your post, and then hit enter by mistake.

re: #174 ClosetConservative
It was Saddam. The IAF did its usual outstanding job. The first set of F-16s breached the reactor containment building, the second set put their bombs through the holes the first ones had made and took out the reactor. Back in the early 80s, IIRC.

re: #116 HDrepub

Some of the Greatest Generation seems to have spoiled their children.

I don't think we can solely blame that on how the boomers turned out. The 50's and 60's were quite a boom for the economy of the US. And the beginning of the "modern conveniences". The boomers have been quite coddled, not just by their parents, but by their country, in economic sense, and in liberty sense. Hence, the radical protests of the 60's. While their parents had to deal with the famine and hard times of the Depression, the boomers were dealing with Social Injustices (segregation). While the greatest generation was ridding the world of an evil anti-semite fascist, the boomers were burning bras and lighting joints because they didn't see the need in fighting communism.

The boomers believed that their struggles WERE and ARE more important than anyone else's. They were self-centered. And the media and Hollywood has pretty much joined the echo chamber, repeating it over and over and over again, the boomers and their great times in the 60's. The only consolation of the 60's boomers is the fight against Social Injustice, but the reality is the movement started in the 50's and had nothing to do with any of the 'radicals' per se, they (the radicals) just used it to make themselves look "progressive". The real work was done by Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr et al.

re: #169 Intrepid

I'm thinking we need some massive overhaul in our national election laws.

1. Voter registrations will only be accepted at county election commission offices, and in person.

2. A valid picture ID must be presented at registration.

3. Background checks will be made to determine if the voter is eligible (ie convicted felon, illegal alien, residence)

4. A valid picture ID must be presented in order to vote.

5. Absentee ballots will be scrupulously checked for validity and tossed out if voter is ineligible.

6. Any GOTV organization that is found to be registering ineligible voters will face federal investigation, and if this organization is in violation in more than one state, that org's registrations are all invalidated.

7. No GOTV organization receives federal funds.

I think the finger dipped in ink that last for a month ....... I know that may sound strange to some ....... but I think we are at the point where we need to do something drastic ...

re: #154 MandyManners
"Damn fucking British." Uh, what this time?

re: #134 Wishing
Wonderful story, great tonic. Thank you for that.

re: #119 jaunte
[Link: www.parade.com...]

I don't trust those numbers.

Oh I believe those numbers - and Obama is going to give me free health care, a free college education, and a free house too. Plus everybody will love everybody when Obama is elected.

The great and glorious completely incompetent, anti-Semite Jimmy Carter is due a great deal of, if not ALL, of this Persia bullshit.

Obama, would be following in his footsteps and badly, I might add.

re: #173 jaunte
Immediately prior thread to this one!

re: #158 pingjockey

We need Iran to have an 'industrial accident' at their one and only refinery for gasoline.

Yes! Black ops so they won't know who, if anyone, caused it. The regime is ready to topple and that would do it. So would a blockaid which I've been calling for for years.

re: #183 victor_yugo

Yeah, probably. It was just some nuclear-related site in the Middle East being repurposed into fine dust by Israel.

re: #188 JacksonTn

I think the finger dipped in ink that last for a month ....... I know that may sound strange to some ....... but I think we are at the point where we need to do something drastic ...

Iraq has better voter security than we do. Think about that and shudder.

re: #177 MandyManners
Ah, spot on with that!

We may do our talking with several Carrier Battle Groups. They'll listen whether they wish to, or not.

re: #176 arethusa

My mom in PA says that rumors are circulating there that anyone with an outstanding arrest warrant will be arrested if they show up to vote.

that needs to get around ...... because it works ........ remember all the stings when they call and say people won tickets and all the people got arrested when they showed up ........

re: #170 Adina in Judea

"Exodus" is a lovely movie!

It's on my iPod Classic and on my iTouch.

I had no idea Dalton Trumbo was the screenwriter.

Time to figure out a lunch solution. BBL

re: #179 JacksonTn

.......the amount of democrats that will vote against him is more than anyone thinks .......... half my family are yellow dog dems and they are voting McCain .......

Thanks!

Also, my thanks to your Dem family members who plan to vote for McCain!

re: #183 victor_yugo

I think you're thinking of Osirak, which was a Saddam project. (right?)

Here it is: Operation Opera

re: #193 realwest

Got it. This one?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Good Lord, everybody and their brother is in this movie.

re: #190 Perry

Wonderful story, great tonic. Thank you for that.

Intrepid found the story....I just re-posted it!
It is awesome that kids did that.

re: #178 rawmuse
Or even just a drivers license - photo id, proof of residence (utility bills, lease, etc). Geebus, people are allowed to vote when they can't be bothered to get a photo ID Drivers license (or in my case pedestrian license - I can't drive cause of my meds but needed an N.C. photo ID - it was free, but still needed social security card and proof of address and either birth certificate or passport!).

re: #168 pingjockey

I'm watching Exodus on TCM, I think that is what Mandy is commenting on. Plus as my better half says, you're Welsh, not British!

Aha!

Thing is - we're all British.
We may not all be English, but British we all are, for better or worse ...

I know, its a bit confusing - us Welsh are not so uptight about this, but never ever ever tell a Scotsman to his face that he's English!
Ever!

re: #196 arethusa

Iraq has better voter security than we do. Think about that and shudder.

yes, and Carter is way more concerned about voter rights in other countries ..... he is an anti-American ex-prez .....

re: #176 arethusa

My mom in PA says that rumors are circulating there that anyone with an outstanding arrest warrant will be arrested if they show up to vote

too bad we can't post that on some lefty blogs

The Olympia is making a run for it!

re: #33 Irene NYC

I emailed our state GOP to volunteer. Haven't heard back from them. Great organizational skills.
*sigh*

I went way out of my comfort zone and offered to volunteer at our local GOP office this past Friday. Granted, I live in a liberal university town that is basically in the tank for Obama, but there was NOTHING TO DO. The phone never rang, and I sat there for 2.5 HOURS listening to two other volunteers talk about homosexuals, the liberal professors, religion, etc. The one guy found out that the other volunteer was a nurse and he proceeded to ask a very personal health question in front of me. I finally escaped with a couple of yard signs and will never go back. I will try to do some phone banks from my home next week. Ugh.

re: #174 ClosetConservative

Osirak (Osiraq), 1981, near Baghdad Iraq, not Iran.

re: #171 The Shadow Do

A direct assault by McCain on Obama is a sure loser. If this Ayers, Rezko business keeps up the folks will tune out. In fact they already have.

Spent my life in sales and the first rule is do not bad mouth the competition. You give them sympathy and you end up looking petty.

I partially agree.

I don't think that 'bad mouthing' is effective unless you're intending to define an unknown. If you can make up people's minds, in your way, at the outset, you're winning.

McCain's mistake was going negative on the wrong things. He pulled the kindergarten ad out, I'm sorry to say, of his arse. He should have gone straight in with associations, character and honesty from the first. Bam.

re: #185 Scion9
Ah, ok, nevermind!

Obama's lead in Gallup has just declined to +7 (50-43). McCain gained support, Obama lost it.

In general, polls are slowly trending in McCain's direction. Keep up the good fight, Lizards!

re: #208 yma o hyd
Don't tell my wife the same thing either!

re: #208 yma o hyd

Can I quit kicking myself?

re: #175 MandyManners

Watching Exodus.

Shoulda' said that Lizards are excepted. I apologize.

Thass ok - pingjockey explained it!

Thought there was another Sharia Law nonsense perpetrated by our beloved government.

re: #218 MandyManners
Sure, want me to take over?

re: #199 JacksonTn
Really! Crooks are DUMB! Love those sting shows, though!

Ot
I suspect most Lizards have seen the remarks about McCain fostering an hateful atmosphere like George Wallace did.

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Obama's campaign give a half-hearted reply that didn't really say this was out of the ball park, more like they can understand why someone may think this way,

This is so out of control. And of course, McCain will probably give the Dems a pass on this at the next debate.

Shit!

re: #199 JacksonTn

that needs to get around ...... because it works ........ remember all the stings when they call and say people won tickets and all the people got arrested when they showed up ........

I definitely do not advocate suppressing the vote with rumors like that. I don't want McCain to win that way.

re: #207 realwest

If I haven't said it lately, I sure wish you the best in your recovery, and thank you for your service to our nation. I wish I lived nearby to give you a hand when you may need one. I volunteer around these parts to disabled vets, mostly giving them a ride to docs appointments and such. Nothing makes me happier, to tell the truth.

re: #210 yah

too bad we can't post that on some lefty blogs

who says we can't ........

re: #223 arethusa

I definitely do not advocate suppressing the vote with rumors like that. I don't want McCain to win that way.

Do you think it is better for Obama to win by voter fraud?

re: #220 pingjockey

Sure, want me to take over?

LOL!

re: #216 arethusa

Obama's lead in Gallup has just declined to +7 (50-43). McCain gained support, Obama lost it.

In general, polls are slowly trending in McCain's direction. Keep up the good fight, Lizards!

Wow...really? OK...the debate is HUGE...specific economic plan and call out Obambi!

I wonder if Hollywood would even attempt a movie like Exodus now? They'd probably do it with the palisavages as the victims. Spit!

re: #204 jaunte
CRAP - I meant #600 - #650 was in response to a "rebuttal" from Killgore Trout.

BRB, laundry day!

re: #228 cblesz

Wow...really? OK...the debate is HUGE...specific economic plan and call out Obambi!

And turn the fluffy bunny barracuda loose.

re: #147 Wishing

re: #110 Irene NYC

Thanks Mandy, they're at the same location as this group who hold balls and what not but say nada about campaign work. It all is a bit confusing - I'll just go there in person.

Who's do they hold?

They're upper, upper class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And they always fill their ballroom
The event is never small
All the social papers say they've got the biggest balls of all.....

Lets just say Obama wins. Whats in store for Sarah Palin? Goes back to AK to finish her term as gov? What if Stevens is convicted and is removed from the Senate? Could Palin be appointed the new senator to finish Stevens term? She needs to be in a more visible position so in 2012 she can run for President. Could disappear in AK in the meantime. Hmmmmm

OT--This is HILARIOUS! Hillary dirt on Obama?

Obama's 'Girlfriend' Exiled to Caribbean By Angry Michelle

re: #226 JacksonTn

Do you think it is better for Obama to win by voter fraud?

I don't want Obama to win, period. But why should we sink to Obama's level?

(Plus, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to arrest someone who shows up to vote - the right to vote trumps all other rights in a democracy.)

re: #224 rawmuse
Why thank you and you're welcome. I wish you lived closer too! LOL!

re: #230 realwest

Thanks. I was feeling slow, though I do enjoy reading all your comments!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #222 Walter L. Newton

Yes, Wlater- we're the ones fostering a climate of hate in this election season.

Meanwhile- 0bama supporters are showing up at Palin rallies with nasty t-shirts going unreported in the media. How nasty? Try the C-word nasty.

re: #233 RememberSekhmet?

They're upper, upper class high society
God's gift to ballroom notoriety
And they always fill their ballroom
The event is never small
All the social papers say they've got the biggest balls of all.....

re: #239 Sharmuta

Sorry- Walter. Didn't mean to typo your name!

re: #235 cajunbelle

OT--This is HILARIOUS! Hillary dirt on Obama?

Obama's 'Girlfriend' Exiled to Caribbean By Angry Michelle

Saw that. Credible? And, will the media care? Remember, we had a PRESIDENT who got head in the oval office and nobody cared.

re: #229 pingjockey

I wonder if Hollywood would even attempt a movie like Exodus now? They'd probably do it with the palisavages as the victims. Spit!

Some Israeli's need to get in the business of making movies targetted towards Westerners. It would probably actually go a long way towards softening their image among the younger generations of Americans and Europeans that have been indoctrinated to think they are monsters. It's one of those situations, even if the movies flopped it would be worth the expense. Screw Hollywood.

re: #236 arethusa

I don't want Obama to win, period. But why should we sink to Obama's level?

(Plus, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to arrest someone who shows up to vote - the right to vote trumps all other rights in a democracy.)

What? So if someone who has just committed a felony and has a warrant against them is in a "Safe" zone when they go to vote? ........

re: #218 MandyManners

Can I quit kicking myself?

You sure can, Mandy!

I never know what a$$hat things the British Government comes up with next, which needs putting in context before it can be roundly syomped on by the Lizard Nation :-))

0bama's 'tough diplomacy without preconditions' will work wonders with the Iranians.

Yes indeed. What, me worry?

re: #242 cblesz

Saw that. Credible? And, will the media care? Remember, we had a PRESIDENT who got head in the oval office and nobody cared.

I cared, but I was also impressed by his multi-tasking ability.

re: #245 yma o hyd

You sure can, Mandy!

I never know what a$$hat things the British Government comes up with next, which needs putting in context before it can be roundly syomped on by the Lizard Nation :-))

PIMF - that 'stomped', arrgh! Not syomped ...

They’re very simple conditions, really.

I'd wager Iran has developed a small, rudimentary bomb.

This will not end well.

re: #234 engineboss

Lets just say Obama wins. Whats in store for Sarah Palin? Goes back to AK to finish her term as gov? What if Stevens is convicted and is removed from the Senate? Could Palin be appointed the new senator to finish Stevens term? She needs to be in a more visible position so in 2012 she can run for President. Could disappear in AK in the meantime. Hmmmmm

She'd have to appoint herself the replacement (the governor makes the appointments for replacements). Can you imagine the howls? If I were she, I'd finish my term, get re-elected, and stay as far away as possible from DC. She is most viable as an outsider, reformer candidate, especially during an Obama administration. To stay visible, she does a lot of campaigning for Republicans for Congress in 2010, etc.

I hate to say this, but it may be best for her career NOT to be vice-president, so she can maintain that outsider image, and won't be linked to any blunders by a President McCain.

re: #235 cajunbelle

OT--This is HILARIOUS! Hillary dirt on Obama?

Obama's 'Girlfriend' Exiled to Caribbean By Angry Michelle

Massive MSM cover-up.

re: #244 JacksonTn

What? So if someone who has just committed a felony and has a warrant against them is in a "Safe" zone when they go to vote? ........

I believe you have to first be convicted of a felony to lose your right to vote. Anyone know?

re: #235 cajunbelle
ROFL! From your link:

And some Washington insiders suggested that she was the victim of an 11th-hour attempt to smear Obama by die-hard Hillary supporters.

But now the rumours have resurfaced, suggesting that they may be coming from elements in the Republican Party.

According to sources interviewed by The Mail on Sunday, the respected Los Angeles Times, the tabloid National Enquirer and the huge ABC television network have been provided with the woman’s name.

The RESPECTED LA Times? Started by Dems, picked up and joined in by Republicans in a "smear" attack.
Yup, I just LOVES me some unbiased reporting - that was a "News Story" not an editiorial or Op Ed type thing!
ROTFLMAO!

re: #249 Cognito

It will not end well if we have not learned the lessons of the 1930s.

And it will not end well if we take the "global test".

re: #236 arethusa

I don't want Obama to win, period. But why should we sink to Obama's level?

(Plus, I'm pretty sure it is illegal to arrest someone who shows up to vote - the right to vote trumps all other rights in a democracy.)

Voting is not a right. It is a privilege. That privilege is forfeited when someone is convicted of certain crimes, among other things.
It is legal to arrest anybody with an outstanding warrant. Whether that person would be afforded the privilege to vote before being carted off to jail would (or should) depend largely on his status at the time.

re: #230 realwest

That whole thing is definitely going out to my email list on Monday.
"Sell your house, and Obama wants 28% of your capital gains."

re: #242 cblesz

Saw that. Credible? And, will the media care? Remember, we had a PRESIDENT who got head in the oval office and nobody cared.

Yeah, the article says the media here has her name. If this was McCain, you couldn't get a flight to the islands today.

re: #250 arethusa

She'd have to appoint herself the replacement (the governor makes the appointments for replacements). Can you imagine the howls? If I were she, I'd finish my term, get re-elected, and stay as far away as possible from DC. She is most viable as an outsider, reformer candidate, especially during an Obama administration. To stay visible, she does a lot of campaigning for Republicans for Congress in 2010, etc.

I hate to say this, but it may be best for her career NOT to be vice-president, so she can maintain that outsider image, and won't be linked to any blunders by a President McCain.

Astute!

re: #235 cajunbelle

OT--This is HILARIOUS! Hillary dirt on Obama?

Obama's 'Girlfriend' Exiled to Caribbean By Angry Michelle

Might it be some PUMAs?

re: #236 arethusa
I don't know - do convicted felons (who violated parole or escaped and have arrest (or more accurately re-arrest) warrants out on 'em entitled to vote at all?!

Later folks, eldest much check his email. Dad Rolls eyes!

re: #252 arethusa

I believe you have to first be convicted of a felony to lose your right to vote. Anyone know?

Obama/ACORN were trying to get people in prison to be able to vote ...... I think in Florida ....... they don't care is you have murdered someone ...... they just want your vote