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Coming Soon: The Pain Ray

Sci/Tech | Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 2:54:08 pm PST

A ray that causes intense pain but (when used as directed) no lasting injury: Army Orders Pain Ray Trucks; New Report Shows ‘Potential for Death’.

After years of testing, the Active Denial System — the pain ray which drives off rioters with a microwave-like beam — could finally have its day. The Army is buying five of the truck-mounted systems for $25 million. But the energy weapon may face new hurdles, before it’s shipped off to the battlefield; a new report details how the supposedly non-lethal blaster could be turned into a flesh-frying killer.

The contract for the pain ray trucks is “expected to be awarded by year’s end,” Aviation Week notes. “A year after the contract is signed, the combination vehicle/weapons will start be fielded at the rate of one per month.”

It’s been a very long time coming. As we’ve previously reported, there have been calls to deploy the Active Denial System in Iraq going back to 2004. But it’s always been delayed for legal, political, and public relations reasons. Anything that might be condemned as torture is political dynamite. Interestingly, the version being bought is not the full-size “Version 2,” but a containerized system known as Silent Guardian, which Raytheon have been trying to sell for some time. They describe Silent Guardian as “roughly 1/3 the size and power of the other Active Denial Systems,” and quote it’s range as “greater than 250 meters.” The larger system has a range somewhere in excess of 700 meters.

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1 goddessoftheclassroom  10/12/08 2:54:40 pm reply quote 12

At first I thought that said, "Palin Ray."

2 Sharmuta  10/12/08 2:55:50 pm reply quote 5

Here I thought this would be an article on 0bama's tax policies.

3 Maximu§  10/12/08 2:56:15 pm reply quote 2

I have a Pain Ray right here at home...its called a Wife!

4 AbuHoul  10/12/08 2:56:23 pm reply quote 2

What kind of pain are we talking about really? Like a swift sharp kick in the nuts?

5 WrathofG-d  10/12/08 2:56:31 pm reply quote 0

Oh great, so the protesters can throw rocks, molotov cocktails, and bricks at the cops, and the cops can respond by using a "ray" that will end up not killing the protester but ensuring that the cop that used it is sued for the rest of his/her life.

This will not deter any type of violence against the cops but probably instead just encourage it.

Furthermore, what is the point? Are people no longer allowed to peaceably assemble?

6 JammieWearingFool  10/12/08 2:57:04 pm reply quote 1

Those would come in handy at anti-war marches.

Though of course with the dawning of the Era of Hopenchange upon us, anti-war rallies will be postponed indefinitely.

7 gop_patriot  10/12/08 2:57:24 pm reply quote 0
a new report details how the supposedly non-lethal blaster could be turned into a flesh-frying killer.

Ouch.

8 cliffster  10/12/08 2:57:36 pm reply quote 6

Wow, sounds like a new strategy. "General, it's easy. Just push the We Win button" Sorta like the Easy Button from Staples.

9 ajackson  10/12/08 2:57:59 pm reply quote 12

In live tests it was shown to be even more painful than the second Presidential debate.

10 gop_patriot  10/12/08 2:58:02 pm reply quote 0

re: #1 goddessoftheclassroom

At first I thought that said, "Palin Ray."

LOL Me too! :)

11 razorbacker  10/12/08 2:58:09 pm reply quote 3

A 'Pain Ray'? Great Goodilygoob! You can't deploy that! It's unAmerican to broadcast the MSM into third-world nations! What? Oh. Nevermind.

12 rawmuse  10/12/08 2:58:29 pm reply quote 0

Benny Goodman had one of those, I'm pretty sure.

13 Slumbering Behemoth  10/12/08 2:58:50 pm reply quote 6

America! Fuck yeah!

14 Salem  10/12/08 2:59:13 pm reply quote 3

Your agonizer, please...

15 Pullus Iulius  10/12/08 2:59:39 pm reply quote 8

Considering the direction I'm afraid our government may turn, I'm not particularly happy that we have this.

16 ACJohn  10/12/08 2:59:41 pm reply quote 5

pain Ray= Chris Mathews Laugh

17 faraway  10/12/08 2:59:56 pm reply quote 1

It works. It's been blasting MSNBC all year.

18 MandyManners  10/12/08 3:00:18 pm reply quote 8

I need one of these for driving.

19 looking closely  10/12/08 3:00:46 pm reply quote 1

Its better than live fire, I suppose.

20 Killgore Trout  10/12/08 3:00:55 pm reply quote 6

Science!

21 Miss Trixie  10/12/08 3:00:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #1 goddessoftheclassroom

At first I thought that said, "Palin Ray."

ME TOO! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :D

22 Catttt  10/12/08 3:01:18 pm reply quote 3

Good old Raytheon - still the company to turn to when you want the latest, bestest rays.

23 vagabond trader  10/12/08 3:01:19 pm reply quote 0

Should park one permanently outside congress.For protection of our honorable officials, of course.

24 gop_patriot  10/12/08 3:01:21 pm reply quote 1

I just like the name "Pain Ray Truck". That's awesome.

I wonder what will be painted on the side? Will there be warnings? "This truck's Pain Ray could cause your flesh to fry if not used properly. Studies have shown there is a possible potential for death."

25 arethusa  10/12/08 3:01:30 pm reply quote 1

When will Obama let the Iranians get one?/

26 ninewhile  10/12/08 3:01:43 pm reply quote 1

I'm confident, once deployed and captured in combat, that it won't be reverse engineered at the first chance by the Chinese and Russians and up for sale soonest.

yup. never happen.

27 faraway  10/12/08 3:02:03 pm reply quote 0

Apparently we have been torturing civilians with this. Who knew?

28 A Kiwi Infidel  10/12/08 3:02:22 pm reply quote 0

"Active denial systems"

I just love the way these terms pop up, all cutesy.

"Extreme nervous incapacitation system" just doesnt have the same ring, nor marketing potential.

29 lifeofthemind  10/12/08 3:02:32 pm reply quote 0
30 faraway  10/12/08 3:02:42 pm reply quote 1

re: #23 vagabond trader

Should park one permanently outside congress.For protection of our honorable officials, of course.

Pointed in which direction?

31 WrathofG-d  10/12/08 3:03:00 pm reply quote 0

such cognizant dialectic

32 Killgore Trout  10/12/08 3:03:15 pm reply quote 3

Will Chairman Obama turn it on us when he becomes Commander in Chief.
/Sorry, couldn't resist

33 Maximu§  10/12/08 3:03:29 pm reply quote 1

could be turned into a flesh-frying killer.

So before any street protest, I guess we should lather ourselves in BBQ sauce and start frying.

34 buzzsawmonkey  10/12/08 3:03:36 pm reply quote 10

The Cruciatus Curse, brought to you by the miracle of modern technology!

35 arethusa  10/12/08 3:03:38 pm reply quote 0

re: #30 faraway

Pointed in which direction?

I'd rather protect the public from Congress.

36 rawmuse  10/12/08 3:04:06 pm reply quote 0

Where's my tin foil?

37 buzzsawmonkey  10/12/08 3:04:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #1 goddessoftheclassroom

At first I thought that said, "Palin Ray."

Those are hair rays.

38 Adina in Judea  10/12/08 3:04:15 pm reply quote 11

Israel has a new stink weapon (a "Skunk" bomb) that is sprayed through a water hose at rock throwing protesters and makes them stink horribly.

The stinking protesters run home to wash up but I think the stink lasts for a few days. In clothing, the stink can last up to 5 years.

It's all organic stink, too. Safe enough to drink, per the IDF (although I don't know if anyone has had the courage to take a swig.)

I think the stink bomb sounds like a good idea. Apparently, it's stinkier than the "Palestinian" areas are normally, so it really does send rock throwers scurrying away.

39 loflyer  10/12/08 3:05:05 pm reply quote 8

Yaar! Mates we are blogging from Manual's tavern, yours truly, Lucius Septimius, Doppelganglander send y'all greetings! I doubt we will be contributing to the thread, we are having to much fun talking to post! Haar

40 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:05:06 pm reply quote 0

A perfect weapon for The O's Civilian Defense Corp. Only use it on the evilllllll Republicans and Independents that didn't ensure a complete 1000% Obama anointing.

41 vagabond trader  10/12/08 3:05:09 pm reply quote 0

re: #30 faraway

Well, can't say what I really want to now can I.

42 goddessoftheclassroom  10/12/08 3:05:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 buzzsawmonkey

Those are hair rays.

LOL!

43 buzzsawmonkey  10/12/08 3:05:19 pm reply quote 1

re: #38 Adina in Judea

Israel has a new stink weapon (a "Skunk" bomb) that is sprayed through a water hose at rock throwing protesters and makes them stink horribly.

The stinking protesters run home to wash up but I think the stink lasts for a few days. In clothing, the stink can last up to 5 years.

It's all organic stink, too. Safe enough to drink, per the IDF (although I don't know if anyone has had the courage to take a swig.)

I think the stink bomb sounds like a good idea. Apparently, it's stinkier than the "Palestinian" areas are normally, so it really does send rock throwers scurrying away.

I've been to Israel.

I think that a "stink weapon" on protesters there is coals to Newcastle.

44 faraway  10/12/08 3:05:45 pm reply quote -1
45 A Kiwi Infidel  10/12/08 3:06:10 pm reply quote 0

re: #39 loflyer

Yaar! Mates we are blogging from Manual's tavern, yours truly, Lucius Septimius, Doppelganglander send y'all greetings! I doubt we will be contributing to the thread, we are having to much fun talking to post! Haar


Enjoy, I am not envious.........

/

46 capitalist piglet  10/12/08 3:06:41 pm reply quote 1

re: #22 Catttt

Good old Raytheon - still the company to turn to when you want the latest, bestest rays.

I have some Raytheon stock. Kinda brings a tear to my eye...I'm a little choked up...

47 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:06:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

I've been to Israel.

I think that a "stink weapon" on protesters there is coals to Newcastle.

Perfume to a French Whore House?

48 vapig  10/12/08 3:07:05 pm reply quote 4

"Anything that might be condemned as torture is political dynamite."

They whine when we kill combatants trying to kill us and they'll whine when we don't. There is just no pleasing these people.

49 Maximu§  10/12/08 3:07:07 pm reply quote 2

The Army is buying five of the truck-mounted systems for $25 million. But the energy weapon may face new hurdles,

and its a Big-Fat, slow moving target that can be taken out with a $150 RPG.

50 faraway  10/12/08 3:07:41 pm reply quote 1

I just noticed one of the "journalist's" names. Dick Destiny.

51 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:07:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #44 faraway

Egads! Goats may have been killed by this thing.

Egads indeed! The Petagon AND the Liberal Media being blamed! A Twofer!

52 MandyManners  10/12/08 3:07:58 pm reply quote 0

re: #39 loflyer

Yaar! Mates we are blogging from Manual's tavern, yours truly, Lucius Septimius, Doppelganglander send y'all greetings! I doubt we will be contributing to the thread, we are having to much fun talking to post! Haar

Send kisses all around from me!

53 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  10/12/08 3:08:08 pm reply quote 0

best of all- you can use them as props in Godzilla movies

54 obscured by clouds  10/12/08 3:08:09 pm reply quote 4

I just got back from the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot in West Point, KY. If Obama gets in office it (the machine gun shoot), like this weapon system (which was about the only one not on display at the shoot) will be first on the chopping block.

I don't have a gun and have never been a "gun nut," but now is the time to buy a gun if you're thinking about it. Obama + Pelosi/Reid/Durbin et al are going to try and pull an end run on the 2nd ammendment, filibuster proof. Write it down (not that their attempts will be successful).

Oh...and the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot is the wildest thing this side of Mogadishu. The last one I attended -right after 9/11 in 2001- they announced that the first bombs had just been dropped in Afghanistan. The place went nuts. If there's been a C 130 transport plane headed to Afghanistan every 60 year old, beer bellied, gun nut there would've been on it.

55 faraway  10/12/08 3:08:19 pm reply quote 0

Wait, now I am confused if that's his name, or his title.

56 Adina in Judea  10/12/08 3:08:24 pm reply quote 1

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

I've been to Israel.

I think that a "stink weapon" on protesters there is coals to Newcastle.

The stink weapon has already been tried, though, and the rock throwers did scurry away.

Imagine how stinky this bomb must be for the rock throwers to so offended.

It must be the 'mother of all stinks.' :)

57 buzzsawmonkey  10/12/08 3:08:55 pm reply quote 0

re: #47 FurryOldGuyJeans

Perfume to a French Whore House?

Pretty much, yes.

58 alien_mind  10/12/08 3:09:43 pm reply quote 4

the pain ray secret? Slim Whitman.

59 rawmuse  10/12/08 3:10:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #54 obscured by clouds

Belt fed. Oh, yeah!

60 opnion  10/12/08 3:10:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #40 FurryOldGuyJeans

A perfect weapon for The O's Civilian Defense Corp. Only use it on the evilllllll Republicans and Independents that didn't ensure a complete 1000% Obama anointing.


Look, everfybody knows that if Obama does not get 99.9% of the voye it is due to racist, voter fraud. Acorn is only there to prevent guys in Izod shirts from stealing votes.

61 willowone  10/12/08 3:11:04 pm reply quote 2

re: #44 faraway
[Link: www.snotr.com...]

they were only pretending

62 HelloDare  10/12/08 3:11:35 pm reply quote 2

Code name: Cheney's Evil Eye

63 vapig  10/12/08 3:11:39 pm reply quote 0

re: #51 FurryOldGuyJeans

Egads indeed! The Petagon AND the Liberal Media being blamed! A Twofer!

PETAgon? Is that a new animal org to compete with the Pentagon?

64 Adina in Judea  10/12/08 3:11:46 pm reply quote 2

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

In Gaza, however, the 'stink bomb' may have too much competition to penetrate the existing stink (even if the bomb broke the 'speed of stink' barrier.)

65 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:11:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #57 buzzsawmonkey

Pretty much, yes.

Sacré bleu! Alours! Ze Stink!

66 gop_patriot  10/12/08 3:12:06 pm reply quote 0

re: #62 HelloDare

Code name: Cheney's Evil Eye

ROFLOL

67 mardukhai  10/12/08 3:12:30 pm reply quote 0

re: #4 AbuHoul

It's like being burned alive. The instinct is to run like hell.

68 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:12:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #63 vapig

PETAgon? Is that a new animal org to compete with the Pentagon?

Ooops! PIMF! Pentagon. I knew today was not the day to give up sniffing pet food. ;)

69 faraway  10/12/08 3:13:11 pm reply quote 1

re: #67 mardukhai

It's like being burned alive. The instinct is to run like hell.

Sounds like Rosie ODonnell

70 mardukhai  10/12/08 3:13:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

I think that a "stink weapon" on protesters there is coals to Newcastle.

Heh.

71 godfrey  10/12/08 3:13:35 pm reply quote 1

A "pain ray"?

What, you mean like four years of an Obama presidency?

72 FrogMarch  10/12/08 3:13:40 pm reply quote 0

re: #51 FurryOldGuyJeans

Egads indeed! The Petagon AND the Liberal Media being blamed! A Twofer!

if you keep reading - David Horowitz gets smacked with some BS.

73 lifeofthemind  10/12/08 3:13:50 pm reply quote 0

The amazing thing is that they have a mobile power supply for it. On the ship we told the troops that the SPG-52 fire control radar could cook a steak if you could point it down at the deck. Serious amount of energy being put out. Stuff was tagged out before allowing men to work aloft.

74 vapig  10/12/08 3:13:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 Adina in Judea

In Gaza, however, the 'stink bomb' may have too much competition to penetrate the existing stink (even if the bomb broke the 'speed of stink' barrier.)

The Israelis have a "make you puke" ray, don't they? Sound-waves that make a person nauseous?

75 So?  10/12/08 3:14:07 pm reply quote 1

Get out the marshmallows.

76 vapig  10/12/08 3:14:50 pm reply quote 0

re: #68 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ooops! PIMF! Pentagon. I knew today was not the day to give up sniffing pet food. ;)

LOL!

77 So?  10/12/08 3:14:56 pm reply quote 1

When is The Fart Ray Truck going to be available?

78 WrathofG-d  10/12/08 3:14:58 pm reply quote 3

Here is the active denial system in action:

Exhibit 1

Exhibit A

Exhibit B


Exhibit C

and according to many of the comments, it seems my boys at ZOG invented the thing. Way to go boys...mazel tov!

79 conservativeChick  10/12/08 3:15:07 pm reply quote 0

It would be so wonderful to use this on protesters.

80 obscured by clouds  10/12/08 3:15:27 pm reply quote 0

per my post #54

If there's been a C 130 transport plane headed to Afghanistan every 60 year old, beer bellied, gun nut there would've been on it.

And AQ and the Taliban would've been running scared. Seriously.

81 HelloDare  10/12/08 3:15:36 pm reply quote 2

They tested the pain ray on Harry Reid.

It actually made him feel better.

82 So?  10/12/08 3:15:44 pm reply quote 2

They could name it The Palinator™

83 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:16:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #72 FrogMarch

if you keep reading - David Horowitz gets smacked with some BS.

Zounds! They are just so, well, TROOF!

84 lifeofthemind  10/12/08 3:16:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #73 lifeofthemind

Correct the typo SPG (spig) 55 radar

85 Slumbering Behemoth  10/12/08 3:16:39 pm reply quote 0

Later Lizards, gotta grill.

86 eon  10/12/08 3:17:09 pm reply quote 2

If the Wired babies are worried about "second and third degree burns over 50% of the body" if this thing is turned a little too high, they'd better hope nobody turns it to "narrow beam" instead of "fan".

A 20Kj narrow-beam laser pulse of about 2-3 milliseconds will do a very thorough job of spreading a human hit by it around the neighborhood in bits and pieces.

More information on how weaponized lasers really work, and their real-world effects (as opposed to Hollywood) here;

Atomic Rocket- Sidearms

Warning; for SF geeks or high-energy anything buffs, this site is highly addictive.

cheers

eon

87 vapig  10/12/08 3:17:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 HelloDare

They tested the pain ray on Harry Reid.

It actually made him feel better.

ROTFLMAO!

88 opnion  10/12/08 3:17:12 pm reply quote 1

re: #79 conservativeChick

It would be so wonderful to use this on protesters.

Wait, if the ONE is elected , your comrade block captain will have one of thes to control you.
Dissent will be forbidden.

89 FrogMarch  10/12/08 3:17:35 pm reply quote 0

re: #78 WrathofG-d

great links - thanks!

90 A Kiwi Infidel  10/12/08 3:17:48 pm reply quote 1

re: #77 So?

When is The Fart Ray Truck going to be available?


Still on trial, tests not going well.

91 mardukhai  10/12/08 3:18:10 pm reply quote 2

By the way, my alma mater San Francisco State, is "commemorating" the gangsters who tried to kill me and 400 others in a firebomb attack in 1967.

The official version is that, despite contemporary newspaper accounts, the attack never happened. Makes me feel all nice and cozy inside.

92 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:18:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #77 So?

When is The Fart Ray Truck going to be available?

Let me eat a few bean burritos first, please. ;)

93 Adina in Judea  10/12/08 3:18:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #74 vapig

The Israelis have a "make you puke" ray, don't they? Sound-waves that make a person nauseous?

Yes. It's called "The Scream." It incites "The Puke" from rock throwing protesters by vibrating internal organs with sound.

I'm not sure when the IDF would choose between one weapon and the other (to get rock throwers to stink versus getting them to puke.) Not that the end result would be much different, I guess.

At least if they stink, they can still run away (which would be an advantage to the stink weapon.) It's better than having them stinking and staying.

94 Killian Bundy  10/12/08 3:19:08 pm reply quote 2
The Pain Ray

Deploy it to Ohio on 11/4.

/the e-mail text box is still in the wrong place no matter how many times I reload

95 crimeshark  10/12/08 3:20:07 pm reply quote 0

From Wiki:

"At 95 GHz, the frequency is much higher than the 2.45 GHz of a microwave oven. This frequency was chosen because, due to the stronger absorption of water at those frequencies, they penetrate the skin to a depth of less than 1/64 of an inch (0.4 mm),[7] which is where the nerve endings are located."

As someone who used to work in military contracting, I can assure you of two things- this device will cost 10x more than advertised, and it has already been modified into something that will fry troops like a bucket of KFC. I can't wait for the first handheld "blaster" version a few years down the road.

Ain't tech wonderful?

96 FurryOldGuyJeans  10/12/08 3:20:20 pm reply quote 0

re: #94 Killian Bundy

Deploy it to Ohio on 11/4.

/the e-mail text box is still in the wrong place no matter how many times I reload

Ever think the text box is in the correct place but the rest of the page isn't?

97 eon  10/12/08 3:20:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #88 opnion

Wait, if the ONE is elected , your comrade block captain will have one of thes to control you.
Dissent will be forbidden.

What? No pain induction collars?

D**mit, if I'm going to be enslaved, I want a frickin' Pain Induction Collar.

/Just like Captain Kirk in Gamesters of Triskelion.

/sarc or snark, your call

cheers

eon

98 vapig  10/12/08 3:20:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #93 Adina in Judea

Yes. It's called "The Scream." It incites "The Puke" from rock throwing protesters by vibrating internal organs with sound.

I'm not sure when the IDF would choose between one weapon and the other (to get rock throwers to stink versus getting them to puke.) Not that the end result would be much different, I guess.

At least if they stink, they can still run away (which would be an advantage to the stink weapon.) It's better than having them stinking and staying.

Cool!

99 arethusa  10/12/08 3:21:08 pm reply quote 2

re: #1 goddessoftheclassroom

At first I thought that said, "Palin Ray."

We have one of those already. When it attacks, it winks. :-)

100 Intrepid  10/12/08 3:21:15 pm reply quote 0

If the Pain Ray Truck is coming soon, maybe the Brown Note Scooter won't be far behind?

101 opnion  10/12/08 3:21:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #94 Killian Bundy

Deploy it to Ohio on 11/4.

/the e-mail text box is still in the wrong place no matter how many times I reload

Ohio is now just a one point spred according to CNN, Obama 49%- McCain 48%.

102 buzzsawmonkey  10/12/08 3:21:31 pm reply quote 1

re: #78 WrathofG-d

Here is the active denial system in action:

Exhibit 1

Exhibit A

Exhibit B


Exhibit C

and according to many of the comments, it seems my boys at ZOG invented the thing. Way to go boys...mazel tov!

What is very telling is your last link. What do they use to demonstrate the supposed effects of the heat ray? Why, the immolation of the Nazis at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark."

I'm sure that the people preparing the video did not consciously realize that they were comparing the "peaceful protester good guys" to Nazis. But art is often unconsciously revealing.

103 WrathofG-d  10/12/08 3:22:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #93 Adina in Judea

I don't know how I feel about non-lethal weapons like this. Since the pain is exceptionally temporary, it has ZERO deterrence factor. As is seen in some of the "exhibits" i linked above, the "victims" of the ray can come back and be problematic almost immediately after they get out of the "line of sight" of the weapon.

Property applied excessive force on one individual can have the positive affect of deterring hundreds of other individuals. These types of weapons are only going to encourage violent behavior.

104 riesling fan  10/12/08 3:23:37 pm reply quote 1

As we learned at Mad Scientist school, never confuse "rays" with "beams"!

105 stuiec  10/12/08 3:23:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #4 AbuHoul

What kind of pain are we talking about really? Like a swift sharp kick in the nuts?

It's been described as the feeling of standing in front of a blast furnace and having the insulating door opened all at once: searing heat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew s/1540674/Non-lethal-ray-gun-aims-to-que ll-rioters.html

AND

How I was zapped by a heat wave gun

106 So?  10/12/08 3:23:46 pm reply quote 1

How about

The Make Your Beard Fall Off Ray Machine

that would disperse the crowds quick in certain countries,

107 Killian Bundy  10/12/08 3:24:24 pm reply quote 0

re: #96 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ever think the text box is in the correct place but the rest of the page isn't?

/no, the email text box comes after (Log Out) and it's supposed to render after Email:

108 Intrepid  10/12/08 3:25:03 pm reply quote 1

Maybe we should just deploy trucks with big lamps in the back - I read the other day that the Al Gore curly light bulbs are being reconsidered because they give off a boat-load more UV rays than regular light bulbs, and can result in people getting sunburns if they sit too close to them.

109 ACJohn  10/12/08 3:25:25 pm reply quote 0

re: #106 So?

How about

The Make Your Beard Fall Off Ray Machine

that would disperse the crowds quick in certain countries,


Or make MO fall away from BHO

110 Adina in Judea  10/12/08 3:25:31 pm reply quote 1

re: #103 WrathofG-d

I don't know how I feel about non-lethal weapons like this. Since the pain is exceptionally temporary, it has ZERO deterrence factor.

Israel's stink bomb (or skunk bomb) isn't all that temporary, though. People can stink for days no matter how often they wash. Their clothing can stink for 5 years.

I think it's as bad or worse than an actual skunk's spray. The smell is overpowering compared to almost anything else and it sticks around for awhile.

It does seem to get people to scurry away (and they don't return quickly.)

111 So?  10/12/08 3:25:46 pm reply quote 0

The deadliest weapon known to man.

113 arethusa  10/12/08 3:25:58 pm reply quote 1

re: #108 Intrepid

Maybe we should just deploy trucks with big lamps in the back - I read the other day that the Al Gore curly light bulbs are being reconsidered because they give off a boat-load more UV rays than regular light bulbs, and can result in people getting sunburns if they sit too close to them.

Also, if you break 'em, they're poisonous. Don't touch a broken curly bulb with your bare hands.

114 opnion  10/12/08 3:26:13 pm reply quote 0

How long before the Obama Campaign puts out a press release that this is a racist innovation, with the only intent to supress people of color on a global scale?

115 willowone  10/12/08 3:26:27 pm reply quote 0

[Link: www.philly.com...] more well behaved Obama supporters

116 willowone  10/12/08 3:27:26 pm reply quote 0

I would think the pain ray done well could really calm high emotions down pretty quickly , seems liek a great idea done responsibly

117 Intrepid  10/12/08 3:28:09 pm reply quote 1

re: #113 arethusa

Also, if you break 'em, they're poisonous. Don't touch a broken curly bulb with your bare hands.

"We'll make you GREEN if we have to kill you to do it!"

Al Gore

119 gop_patriot  10/12/08 3:28:36 pm reply quote 2

re: #108 Intrepid

I read the other day that the Al Gore curly light bulbs are being reconsidered because they give off a boat-load more UV rays than regular light bulbs, and can result in people getting sunburns if they sit too close to them.

Good. I hope they get rid of the lot of them; they give off no light. I have tried reading by those damn things and it's like not having a light on at all.

120 Bobibutu  10/12/08 3:28:37 pm reply quote 2

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Pain Ray Fries AP Reporter

For your viewing pleasure.

121 MandyManners  10/12/08 3:28:51 pm reply quote 0

re: #79 conservativeChick

It would be so wonderful to use this on protesters.

Why? We have the RIGHT TO PROTEST.

122 godfrey  10/12/08 3:28:52 pm reply quote 0

re: #105 stuiec

A blast furnace is not a good analogy. At $2300 F, a blast furnace will melt you instantly.

It would be more like cleaning out a refractory-lined mixer. At 700 degrees, that's plenty hot, and you'll be scared.

Trust me on this. In the mill, we got 30 seconds inside the mixer. Air horns going full blast. It was as close to hell as I ever want to get.

123 Adina in Judea  10/12/08 3:29:00 pm reply quote 2

re: #106 So?

How about

The Make Your Beard Fall Off Ray Machine

that would disperse the crowds quick in certain countries,