Suicide by car, maybe. Or some sort of seizure behind the wheel. Or just plain stupid.

He will NOT be missed.

That was a bit self evident from the amount of damage to the vehicle.

Life's a beach, then you're racial superiority can't overcome the laws of physics and you smack you're head through the side window into a hard object at high speed.

Dem's the breaks.

He was coming from a nightclub? Why won't they release is BAC?

re: #1 rawmuse

Suicide by car, maybe. Or some sort of seizure behind the wheel. Or just plain stupid.

I vote for just plain stupid

re: #4 MandyManners

He was coming from a nightclub? Why won't they release is BAC?

Blew up the machine, no reading.
/

Anyone want to know who I blame?

It rhymes with SHOOOES.

/nut off.

Or Sarah Palin.

Possibly drunk off his a**, fell asleep, or both...

"Nobody has the stature to succeed Haider."

Especially not now.

/a challenge to be taken laying down

Are "Back to Future" 88 mph comments out of line? Don't answer that.

A drunken Nazi? knock me over with a feather...by the way Charles, the 'jump to bottom' widget pulls up the main LGF page on the latest version of firefox.

re: #6 jcm

Blew up the machine, no reading.
/

heh
visualize an analog meter

/a good "wrap" to the story

88 actually isn't all that fast - unless you're tired or been drinking.

re: #10 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Especially not now.

/a challenge to be taken laying down

They had someone in mind, but he was just too stiff...

What the hell.

re: #14 vapig

88 actually isn't all that fast - unless you're tired or been drinking.

Any faster and I want to be in something with wings on it.

re: #12 MrPaulRevere

It seems to working properly now.

re: #14 vapig

88 actually isn't all that fast - unless you're tired or been drinking.

Or hit something solid.

re: #15 goddessoftheclassroom

They had someone in mind, but he was just too stiff...

Is this rapidly turning into the dead thread?

re: #14 vapig

88 actually isn't all that fast - unless you're tired or been drinking.

Not till you contact a stationary object with the driver's door.

Like they say it's not the fall that kills you, just that sudden stop at the end.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

re: #17 rawmuse

Any faster and I want to be in something with wings on it.

It'll be Cessna or Piper for you then!

I had no idea. Wow. See what happens when I don't read the news for a day!

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is this rapidly turning into the dead thread?

*groan*

He will be remembered as a man whose final act benefited all of mankind.

/quite a change

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is this rapidly turning into the dead thread?

Started that way.
The way all Nazis threads should be.

Speed kills...the thread.
How about them vicious GOP rallies?/

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is this rapidly turning into the dead thread?

It's de rigueur (mortis)

/or is that trying too hard?

re: #25 MandyManners

*groan*

/protesting innocence

GODDESS STARTED IT!

/nose growing

Here's the google map of the crash site.

They asked Sgt. Shultz about this accident,but he knew Nooothing.

re: #29 goddessoftheclassroom

It's de rigueur (mortis)

/or is that trying too hard?

*VOMMMIIITTT*

Way, way, way OT, but a friend just forwarded me today's Maureen Dowd column. And I just can't restrain myself.

The good news: It's half in Latin. Maureen Dowd is now writing columns in a language very few people can read! (Unfortunately, I support myself by being able to read Latin.) Overall, though, a definite step forward.

The bad news: It's her usual tripe.

But - the column is actually a tiny bit amusing, in a strange way. I especially like the phrase "Barracuda Borealis." :-)

re: #33 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*VOMMMIIITTT*

I never imagined I'd be able to use this one...

re: #34 arethusa

What a pathetic spectacle she makes of herself.

re: #4 MandyManners

He was coming from a nightclub? Why won't they release is BAC?

I speculated yesterday that alcohol was involved.

His BAC would have to be taken post-mortem, and the results are probably being held pending the final autopsy report.

If he were drinking, a proper autopsy should determine that (plus there might be eyewitness accounts to corroborate).

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

I never imagined I'd be able to use this one...

That cat looks like he has the Persian Carpet in mind too!

That was some nifty blocking by the Cowboys on that punt.

/snicker

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is this rapidly turning into the dead thread?

*Whack*

*WHACK-WHACK*

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

I never imagined I'd be able to use this one...

And not lawn in coming, too!

re: #41 FurryOldGuyJeans

*Whack*

*WHACK-WHACK*

You got Mandy's permission to use that thing?

OT:

Chigaco lost today in the last couple of seconds, and Arizona won today in Over Time with a blocked punt run in for a TD.

Chicago = sad, lost :-(
Arizona = happy, won :-)

(hoping this is one of those cosmic signs that will be re-played on Nov 4)

heh

re: #40 JammieWearingFool

That was some nifty blocking by the Cowboys on that punt.

/snicker

The Cowboys were gone when Tom Landery left.

O/T Cowboys' special teams needs some lap-running tomorrow...and Tuesday...and Wednesday...

re: #40 JammieWearingFool

Did you notice Romo looked tied, must have been going all over the country registering to vote in many states.

re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/protesting innocence

GODDESS STARTED IT!

/nose growing

*WHACK-WHACK-WHACK-WHACK*

re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/protesting innocence

GODDESS STARTED IT!

/nose growing

Who are you going to believe?

re: #41 FurryOldGuyJeans

*Whack*

*WHACK-WHACK*

Try again. I'm not getting the same satisfaction as Mandy gives.

/running like hell!

re: #43 jcm

You got Mandy's permission to use that thing?

*WHACK-WHACK-WHACK* ;)

re: #14 vapig

Wait, 88? Isn't that ironic.

re: #52 gop_patriot

Wait, 88? Isn't that ironic.

He had it tatted on his bicep..

re: #52 gop_patriot

Wait, 88? Isn't that ironic.

You noticed that TOO?!
heh.

re: #47 ACJohn

Did you notice Romo looked tied, must have been going all over the country registering to vote in many states.

Maybe he's tired of pulling his helmet off after every series and putting his stupid hat on backwards. Look at the bright side. He didn't get picked for the first time in nine games. By the same token he fumbled four times.

Can you say grossly overrated boys and girls? I know you can.

re: #43 jcm

You got Mandy's permission to use that thing?

OMG- someone is using mandy's THING? run like hell guys!

Hey, I didn't see nothin, Mandy's gotta belive me!

re: #56 mikeymom

OMG- someone is using mandy's THING? run like hell guys!

*WHACK-WHACK-WHACK-WHACK-WHACK-WHACK-WHACK*

re: #50 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Try again. I'm not getting the same satisfaction as Mandy gives.
re: #51 FurryOldGuyJeans

*WHACK-WHACK-WHACK* ;)

/running like hell!

pBMb, you take Furry from behind, I hit the front, we've got to get that thing away from him!

On 3!

re: #51 FurryOldGuyJeans

*WHACK-WHACK-WHACK* ;)

I notice that you haven't WHACKED goddess.

/double-triple-dog-dare-you!

re: #59 jcm

pBMb, you take Furry from behind, I hit the front, we've got to get that thing away from him!

On 3!

THREE!

re: #59 jcm

pBMb, you take Furry from behind, I hit the front, we've got to get that thing away from him!

On 3!

I'm double-loaded.

*WHACK-A-WHACK-A-WHACK-WHACK-WHACK*

re: #59 jcm

pBMb, you take Furry from behind, I hit the front, we've got to get that thing away from him!

On 3!

i aint takin nobody from behind, thank you very much!

Another "whack-y" thing - yesterday, Ross Perot and the Reform Party endorsed John McCain.

Woot! That's another 46 votes we can count on!

Why is the room spinning?

re: #63 mikeymom

i'll leave that to barney frank!

re: #60 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I notice that you haven't WHACKED goddess.

/double-triple-dog-dare-you!

Oh, really?

re: #65 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Why is the room spinning?

That's it!

Deploy the Brown Note!

re: #67 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, really?

ROFL

re: #66 mikeymom

i'll leave that to barney frank!

He's not available.
The financial crisis has him in arears.

/undoubtedly already used on LGF

re: #70 pre-Boomer Marine brat

oh lord--what did i start? groan

Haider sounds like he just won a Darwin Award. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

re: #60 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I notice that you haven't WHACKED goddess.

/double-triple-dog-dare-you!

Impertinent! *THUMP*

BTW:

Go Phillies !

re: #67 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, really?

I'M GLAD I'D SWALLOWED THAT MOUTHFUL OF LASAGNA!

Just for added measure, can someone run the pain ray over Haider's corpse?

Go Speed Racist Go!

re: #76 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'M GLAD I'D SWALLOWED THAT MOUTHFUL OF LASAGNA!

you have lasagna and didnt offer to share? WHACK! (with mandy's permission, of course!)

re: #76 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'M GLAD I'D SWALLOWED THAT MOUTHFUL OF LASAGNA!

Don't blame me if there isn't any left...

Charles or moderator.
i have a question?

If i change my AOL screen name, passwords --will that be a problen signing in here at LGF?

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

goddess you never fail to crack me up--thanks!

re: #78 Truck Monkey

Heh.

re: #81 willowone

Nope. Doesn't matter. They are not related to each other.

I just came back from having dinner with my moonbat parents. My mother says Sarah Palin is evil.

re: #72 mikeymom

oh lord--what did i start? groan

Whatever happens after this, it's all your fault.

88

Ace body slams kooky campaign shouters and blog commenters...[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

re: #85 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I just came back from having dinner with my moonbat parents. My mother says Sarah Palin is evil.

change your birth cert-

re: #82 mikeymom

{mikeymom}

I'm so glad other Lizards enjoy the friendly banter between pre-Boomer Marine Brat and me!

re: #85 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I just came back from having dinner with my moonbat parents. My mother says Sarah Palin is evil.

She must be she opposes the Messiah.

/

re: #75 ACJohn

BTW:

Go Phillies !

Yes!

re: #85 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I just came back from having dinner with my moonbat parents. My mother says Sarah Palin is evil.

One must choose one's parents with care.

ok, here goes, wish me luck .

if it doesnt work. i hope i'm not locked out until another rigistration.

re: #85 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I just came back from having dinner with my moonbat parents. My mother says Sarah Palin is evil.

Did she say why she thought that?

re: #79 mikeymom

you have lasagna and didnt offer to share? WHACK! (with mandy's permission, of course!)

What did I ever do to deserve all this abuse?

re: #75 ACJohn

BTW:

Go Phillies !

BTW, Go Dodgers!

re: #85 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I just came back from having dinner with my moonbat parents. My mother says Sarah Palin is evil.

My older brother just called, wanted to know who he should vote for. Says he doesn't follow politics. I kid you not.
;)

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What did I ever do to deserve all this abuse?

Impertinent! *THUMP*

Well, no luck with the time travel.

re: #92 goddessoftheclassroom

{mikeymom}

I'm so glad other Lizards enjoy the friendly banter between pre-Boomer Marine Brat and me!

oh i do--on a serious note- may i ask you to put my sis on prayer list? going in tomorrow for some female problems and tests--im worried--thx sooo much

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

Don't blame me if there isn't any left...

VERY good!

re: #100 Irene NYC

My older brother just called, wanted to know who he should vote for. Says he doesn't follow politics. I kid you not.
;)

And you told him...?

re: #100 Irene NYC

My older brother just called, wanted to know who he should vote for. Says he doesn't follow politics. I kid you not.
;)

At least he asked.

re: #100 Irene NYC

Didja help him out!?

ONE of the "bundlers" who has raised $50,000 to $100,000 for the Barack Obama presidential campaign is Terrence Bean, who once controlled the biggest producer of gay porn in America.

The Messiah ministering to the sinful?

88 miles per hour.

Simple explanation. He was just trying to activate his flux capacitor to go Back to the Future and meet his hero Hitler

re: #98 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What did I ever do to deserve all this abuse?

MWAH!

re: #92 goddessoftheclassroom

{mikeymom}

I'm so glad other Lizards enjoy the friendly banter between pre-Boomer Marine Brat and me!

friendly

re: #106 arethusa

And you told him...?

I said, "Bro, you know what happened to the city we grew up in? You wanna see that happen to the rest of the country, then vote Obama." He replied, "Oh. Got it."

re: #109 jcm

The Messiah ministering to the sinful?

Well, he can ride the jackass party if he wants.

re: #109 jcm

I saw that one but I don't have a problem with gays and I love porno so who am I to make a fuss about that one?

re: #113 Irene NYC

I said, "Bro, you know what happened to the city we grew up in? You wanna see that happen to the rest of the country, then vote Obama." He replied, "Oh. Got it."

Wow.

re: #102 FurryOldGuyJeans

Impertinent! *THUMP*

/rubs head
You're enjoying this WAY too much!

re: #104 mikeymom

oh i do--on a serious note- may i ask you to put my sis on prayer list? going in tomorrow for some female problems and tests--im worried--thx sooo much

{mikeymom}
Dome. Please let us know how things go.

re: #117 pre-Boomer Marine brat

/rubs head
You're enjoying this WAY too much!

But of course! *THUMP* Impertinent!

re: #114 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, he can ride the jackass party if he wants.

That's on a good trend, he gets buried!

(and no recount resurrection)

re: #111 goddessoftheclassroom

MWAH!

YES! You'll notice that that's where mine come from.

re: #113 Irene NYC

I said, "Bro, you know what happened to the city we grew up in? You wanna see that happen to the rest of the country, then vote Obama." He replied, "Oh. Got it."

OK, Irene has nailed her undecided-voter scalp for this election cycle. The rest of us have got to get out there and produce results, too!

re: #112 pre-Boomer Marine brat

friendly

(wipes tears from her cheeks. gasps. holds side where she thinks she's pulled a muscle, can barely type because her hands are shaking from the giggles) THAT IS THE BEST YET!

re: #120 buzzsawmonkey

Would that it were always that easy.

He may not pay attention to politics, but he's not stupid.
;)

Off Topic:

Did I just hear them say on Game of the Week that Olbermann has a sore throat?

Maybe he'd be able to do the highlights if Obama's dick wasn't down it so much.

re: #109 jcm

The Messiah ministering to the sinful?

It's good exposure.

re: #118 goddessoftheclassroom

will do--and thx for maintaining the list--you are a gem!

re: #122 pre-Boomer Marine brat

YES! You'll notice that that's where mine come from.

This one is the right one

re: #126 jmac1492

Tad much there pal.

re: #129 goddessoftheclassroom

This one is the right one

Oh my yes!

re: #85 Who Watches the Watchmen?

My Mom was visiting this weekend, she thinks Sarah is not qualified based on the SNL Sarah Palin/Tina Fey. Took me a bit to explain what was real and what wasn't. WOW

I just got an email from some moonbat i knew years ago decrying McCain for even THINKING of running for POTUS with the Keating affair in his past. This was my reply:
This is SO funny! McCain was EXONERATED!
let's talk about
ACORN, or
Alexi Giannoulias, or
Tony Rezko, or
Louis Farrakhan, or
etc.
The Obama fantasy is over.
(Hillary got robbed at the convention. 7 million PUMAs are voting for McCain. Bill Clinton is head PUMA)
McCain / Palin '08 !

re: #132 Little Doxie

My Mom was visiting this weekend, she thinks Sarah is not qualified based on the SNL Sarah Palin/Tina Fey. Took me a bit to explain what was real and what wasn't. WOW

You mean SNL ain't real?

///

re: #132 Little Doxie

My Mom was visiting this weekend, she thinks Sarah is not qualified based on the SNL Sarah Palin/Tina Fey. Took me a bit to explain what was real and what wasn't. WOW

Good lord.

Hey, McCain says he'll "whip" The One's "you-know-what" this Wednesday.

John, if the eternally f'ed-up Phillies can do it, so can you.

BBIAW

Little Doxie (#132),

My Mom was visiting this weekend, she thinks Sarah is not qualified based on the SNL Sarah Palin/Tina Fey.

That's really sad.

re: #132 Little Doxie

My Mom was visiting this weekend, she thinks Sarah is not qualified based on the SNL Sarah Palin/Tina Fey. Took me a bit to explain what was real and what wasn't. WOW

Do you think you convinced her?

re: #132 Little Doxie

Should've heard my Dad (whom I adore) rationalizing O'Bama/Ayers.

I told him I wasn't going to vote for O'Bama because he's black. Knew it would just stop the conversation. He knows me better than that, but he knew I was just trying to keep from getting in an argument.

re: #133 Wishing

Ever wondered who Hillary is going to vote for when the curtain closes?

re: #132 Little Doxie

Wow. I guess that sort of thing makes it clear why certain Massachusetts keeps re-electing Kennedy and Kerry.

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever wondered who Hillary is going to vote for when the curtain closes?

Herself or Bill?

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever wondered who Hillary is going to vote for when the curtain closes?

Write in.

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

What the hell has he been waiting for?

A permission slip from his mother?

Need to shut down for the evening.
Everyone have a great one!

{goddess}

/sticks tongue out at FurryOldGuyJeans
(-:

re: #141 buzzsawmonkey

I have "highly educated" members of my family who refuse to look at the evidence--or, looking at the evidence, and admitting its cogency, still will not consider changing their vote.

I hesitate to call them stupid, but it is certainly frustrating.

It's a common sense deficit.

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever wondered who Hillary is going to vote for when the curtain closes?

I say we install a little video recorder in the Clinton polling place. I mean, NY will go Obama anyway - she loses nothing by a McCain vote.

Anyone here live in the Clintons' neighborhood?

WELCOME HOME USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN (CVN-72)

JOB WELL DONE!

re: #148 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Need to shut down for the evening.
Everyone have a great one!

{goddess}

/sticks tongue out at FurryOldGuyJeans
(-:

/gives pre-Boomer a hairy eyeball in return ;)

re: #123 arethusa

OK, Irene has nailed her undecided-voter scalp for this election cycle. The rest of us have got to get out there and produce results, too!

Every conversation I have with democrats I try to find a way to work in a discussion on not voting for Obama. I'm on a mission. For me, I think the best results have been discussing health care. People get real scared when you talk about America losing its lead in medical procedures or an inability to access top of the line medical treatment and I've got 3 personal stories to relate to them. You might be surprised to see people's reactions when you talk about "Socialized medicine" and rationing of medical treatment. "BTW, did you know that France has fewer CAT scan machines than the state of Massachusetts? You didn't? Well, that's what happens when the government is in charge." They generally get the picture really quickly. I don't know if I've changed a lot of minds, but I do know that I've gotten them thinking.

I'd be interested to hear from lizards what other topics get favorable responses. Even this old dog is willing to learn some new tricks for a good cause.
;)

re: #136 arethusa

Hey, McCain says he'll "whip" The One's "you-know-what" this Wednesday.

John, if the eternally f'ed-up Phillies can do it, so can you.

Whip him by whipping out all the stuff you should be whipping out, John.

re: #154 TheMatrix31

Whip him by whipping out all the stuff you should be whipping out, John.

Let us hope and pray it ain't the same thing Billie Jeff was fond of whipping out.

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not counting on McCain pulling out some fantastic feat to win this election, If he was going to do that he would have done it by now. I think our best hope is some really terrible Obama gaff but I wouldn't bet on that happening.

re: #154 TheMatrix31

Whip him by whipping out all the stuff you should be whipping out, John.

It's the family hour, quit whipping stuff out in front of the children!
/

Agreed, From mamma's Little Red Church to Ayers, Resko and Raines!

re: #138 Geepers

Little Doxie (#132),

That's really sad.

What's really sad is she's a smart lady, has survived more trying times
than most, owns her own real estate agency etc, in the small town
she lives in whatever the paper and local news say must be true, I
did email her the link for the American Thinker article I found in an earlier thread on Obama, not sure if I have enough time to explain why to vote for McCain/Palin but hoping that article can wake her up and convince her not to vote for Obama. She and my Dad are Kennedy Democrats, they just can't believe the party has been moved to a new venue.

re: #156 Killgore Trout

I'm not counting on McCain pulling out some fantastic feat to win this election, If he was going to do that he would have done it by now. I think our best hope is some really terrible Obama gaff but I wouldn't bet on that happening.

I am betting Obama will make several terrible gaffes between now and election day, but I'm also betting no one in the MSM will report it so it won't really matter.

Chuck Norris is on Huckabee.

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever wondered who Hillary is going to vote for when the curtain closes?

No question in my mind...NOT the Zero!
Heck at the rate he is unravelling, will he still be on the ballot? by then?

re: #156 Killgore Trout

Get used to saying, President Barak Hussain Obama.

re: #157 jcm

It's the family hour, quit whipping stuff out in front of the children!
/

Agreed, From mamma's Little Red Church to Ayers, Resko and Raines!

Hahaha. Given my age, I'm surprised I didn't even think of that connotation with my comment.

Still, the point still stands.

RE: 98 pre-Boomer Marine Brat

It could be worse if you sig read Zommie Brat. Picking on Marines is genetic for old pounders.

/snark

re: #159 Neo Con since 9-11

That's a possibility too.

re: #153 Irene NYC

Every conversation I have with democrats I try to find a way to work in a discussion on not voting for Obama. I'm on a mission. For me, I think the best results have been discussing health care. People get real scared when you talk about America losing its lead in medical procedures or an inability to access top of the line medical treatment and I've got 3 personal stories to relate to them. You might be surprised to see people's reactions when you talk about "Socialized medicine" and rationing of medical treatment. "BTW, did you know that France has fewer CAT scan machines than the state of Massachusetts? You didn't? Well, that's what happens when the government is in charge." They generally get the picture really quickly. I don't know if I've changed a lot of minds, but I do know that I've gotten them thinking.

I'd be interested to hear from lizards what other topics get favorable responses. Even this old dog is willing to learn some new tricks for a good cause.
;)

I talk about taxes and Ayers and ACORN and Soros.

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

What the hell has he been waiting for?

In business it is LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.
In politics, it is TIMING TIMING TIMING
McCain wins, no question

re: #136 arethusa

Hey, McCain says he'll "whip" The One's "you-know-what" this Wednesday.

I hope Mac's not lying to us - or himself - again.

Both parties have told lies this election cycle. The Obama campaign has lied to make McCain look bad. My problem is, the McCain campaign has lied to make Obama look good.

re: #153 Irene NYC

Every conversation I have with democrats I try to find a way to work in a discussion on not voting for Obama. I'm on a mission. For me, I think the best results have been discussing health care. People get real scared when you talk about America losing its lead in medical procedures or an inability to access top of the line medical treatment.

I get good results with taxes - the statistic that Obama can't cut 95% of taxes because only 60% *pay* taxes, the meme about how if he repeals the Bush tax cuts, he automatically raises taxes, and the fact that he'll raise a ton of other taxes, and it will trickle down to the consumer. Most of the people I talk to are looking for a reason to vote McCain, and are supporting Obama because of Bush, so they need actual arguments on bread-and-butter issues; experience and questionable associations just don't work.

I also get some results from pointing out how Obama in so many ways is just a liberal version of Bush - in 2000 we heard how inexperienced Bush would be OK as President, because he'd have great advisers, and now we hear how inexperienced Obama would be OK as President because of his "judgment." Do voters really want to be fooled twice?

re: #160 MandyManners

Chuck Norris is on Huckabee.

EWWW!

Good stuff in the corner:

Mark Steyn: America Aloner. If Obama wins - America will be the most left-wing government in the G8. (with any luck we won't be as left wing as Venezuela - but I'm not holding out much hope.)

&

Yuval Levin: obama's health care ads are filled with profound and shameless dishonesty.

re: #139 arethusa

Do you think you convinced her?

I don't know. I have had talks with my 22 yr old son and encouraged him
to research both candidates and we watched the convention speeches on C-Span, when he saw Sarah Palin speak, he called me and said Mom she is just like you, that was the easy one, my 25 yr old Teacher daughter hasn't decided yet but I sent her the same article I sent my Mom. My only problem is not being able to articulate my thoughts well when we have these discussions.

I watched a lot of football today, and aside from ongoing parity in the NFL, one thing really hit home.

The Democrats are NOT the party of the poor and downtrodden. The incessant political ads during the games were at least 5-1 Donk. They've apparently got mad cash to burn. And in turn, it would seem that those who call themselves Republicans in this country may talk a good game, but like to sit on their wallets.

If you don't think political contributions are important, please think again.

re: #172 FrogMarch

Good stuff in the corner:

Mark Steyn: America Aloner. If Obama wins - America will be the most left-wing government in the G8. (with any luck we won't be as left wing as Venezuela - but I'm not holding out much hope.)

&

Yuval Levin: obama's health care ads are filled with profound and shameless dishonesty.

If Obama gets in who in the US will take the Baroness Warnock role?
The msm not only ignores donk issues it ignores the myriad of problems with socialized medicine

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

I've tried ACORN; I've tried Ayers. I've tried, "If you think the government has done well in the current financial crisis, wait'll you see what they do with health care." I've tried Wright & Pfleger, Edward Said & Rashid Khalidi, the Obama Truth Squad, the Hamas Phone Bank. I've pointed out that Obama is willing to meet with Ahmedinejad with fewer preconditions than he imposed on John McCain.

I've pointed out that inexperience on the national stage, if that's your issue, is better at the bottom of the ticket than at the top; I've pointed out that Palin has more executive experience than the other 3 candidates combined. On New Yorkers, I've said, "If you had a choice between Leonora Fulani and Abe Beame as mayor, who would you vote for? If Beame, why are you voting for Fulani for President?"

I've pointed out Obama's reversal on Jerusalem after one day; his stock of anti-Israel advisors; his connections to Carter and to Cornel West.

Hopefully, some of it fell on fertile ground.

Ya I tried all that on 2 of my brothers and all I got back was "I hear the McCain wears woman's underwear"

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Should've heard my Dad (whom I adore) rationalizing O'Bama/Ayers.

I told him I wasn't going to vote for O'Bama because he's black. Knew it would just stop the conversation. He knows me better than that, but he knew I was just trying to keep from getting in an argument.

OMG! That is hilarious!

re: #138 Geepers

Little Doxie (#132),

That's really sad.

My neighbor's mother believes the fake George Bush that shows up on shows like Jay Leno - is the real George Bush.

re: #136 arethusa

Hey, McCain says he'll "whip" The One's "you-know-what" this Wednesday.

John, if the eternally f'ed-up Phillies can do it, so can you.

First John, drop the phrase "you-know-what" at least once. Say you'll kick his ass. Let that stuffed shirt know he's in for it. If McCain can hit Obama hard, Obama will be left cringing whispering "hope and change" over and over to try to make the pain stop.

One does not commit suicide driving Golf when one could have afforded Ferrari. More likely it is a shortened penile syndrome with a need to prove oneself in a futile attempt to gain a self-confidence.

re: #170 jcm

EWWW!

He's gonna' kick your ass for that.

re: #162 Whiterasta

Get used to saying, President Barak Hussain Obama.

I will never get used to saying that.

re: #178 FrogMarch

My neighbor's mother believes the fake George Bush that shows up on shows like Jay Leno - is the real George Bush.

Ok - there seems to be a trend here and that's scary. AND they can vote.

re: #181 MandyManners

He's gonna' kick your ass for that.

Norris v. Palin cage match...
Who wins?

re: #183 vapig

Ok - there seems to be a trend here and that's scary. AND they can vote.

Would it be illegal to build fake polling booths outside of polling centers? Ones who fall for it, flip an inert switch, then just go home.

Would it be cheating to build one of those booths? I mean, placebo's are legal. Right? The do nothing, but they don't hurt anything either.

I just spit out my milk on my keyboard while reading this. Daily Kos poll has Obama 53% and McCain 40%. What a bunch stupid A-Holes but they are good for a laugh.

re: #172 FrogMarch

Here's Powerline on Obama's leftism:

But there are at least six reasons to fear that Obama will govern from the far left.

First, it’s all he really knows. Obama grew up in a left-wing household, attended elite left-wing dominated universities, and spent the remainder of his formative years as a community organizer alongside the likes of Wright and Ayers.

Second, it’s how he votes. In 2007, according to the National Journal, Obama’s voting record was the most liberal of any senator.

Third, it’s what he falls back on. Obama is scripted to be “post-partisan.” But when off-script he’s liable to blurt out that those who resist the leftist agenda bitterly “cling to guns or religion or antipathy to those who aren’t like them.” And when his wife said that, as an adult, she has never been proud of America, Obama defended her statement as applied to American politics. This is “god damn America” lite.

Fourth, it’s what his base wants. There really isn’t much distance between Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers and the “General Betray-Us” crowd.

Fifth, it’s what he can pretend the times demand. When economic hardship causes people lose their faith in free markets, all kinds of radical mischief becomes possible.

Sixth, with the Democrats almost certain to have substantial majorities in both houses of Congress, who would constrain a President Obama?

re: #110 Shug
Shug,
My apologies. As a new lizard, I pressed the wrong item. I did not mean to ding you. I personally felt that the Zionist conspiracy had mounted a pain ray machine on a nearby alp and had melted the plastic soles of his Nikes. This caused him to jam his foot down and to speed up. Ergo, the crash.

re: #160 MandyManners

Chuck Norris is on Huckabee.

Chucky has a cool Hair Helmet. You can hardly tell he has one on.

/ snort

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Regarding McCain saying he's gonna whip Obama on Wednesday: that, to my mind, means he's going to wimp out.

In my experience, you whip someone, or you don't. If you're going to, you don't telegraph your punch; you don't build up expectations; you don't box yourself in by saying what you're "gonna" do. You do it, and sweep up the pieces later.

"I'm gonna" is the cry of the blowhard barroom drunk. The voter base has been hungry for a dish of whipped ass for weeks now, and it's been sitting on the pass-through, getting cold, while we wait for McCain to bring it to the table.

Bring it, John, or shut the hell up, bumble along, and watch while we drag you kicking and screaming across the Sadie Hawkins Day finish line.

He should really shut up until he's ready to deliver. Now, he's set the bar too high

Prosecutor Gottfried Kranza did not say whether Haider had tested positive for alcohol.

Duh.

re: #175 SpartanWoman

If Obama gets in who in the US will take the Baroness Warnock role?
The msm not only ignores donk issues it ignores the myriad of problems with socialized medicine

The msm is useless. The msm is like watching Hollywood Insider mixed with a pro-democrat infomercial.

re: #186 conservativeChick

I just spit out my milk on my keyboard while reading this. Daily Kos poll has Obama 53% and McCain 40%. What a bunch stupid A-Holes but they are good for a laugh.

I'm surprised Mac has 40%

re: #183 vapig

Ok - there seems to be a trend here and that's scary. AND they can vote.

I think too many people watch too much TV and their brains turn to mush.

re: #184 jcm

Norris v. Palin cage match...
Who wins?

Who cares. I'd just like to see it!

re: #194 buzzsawmonkey

Precisely.

Should have come outta nowhere like SP did. Makes for better drama and now we'll be waiting for something that will not happen as he will devolve back into Gentleman John.

re: #184 jcm

Norris v. Palin cage match...
Who wins?

Palin. She'd not go into all the hand-to-hand stuff but would just whip out a gun and plug him.

re: #186 conservativeChick

I just spit out my milk on my keyboard while reading this. Daily Kos poll has Obama 53% and McCain 40%. What a bunch stupid A-Holes but they are good for a laugh.

How come Obama is doing so poorly?

/think about that for a second.

re: #190 Truck Monkey

Chucky has a cool Hair Helmet. You can hardly tell he has one on.

/ snort

He's gonna' kick your ass for that.

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Alas, you may be right. And what will you bet me that some Obama supporter is taking offense at the word "whip" right now? Or perhaps even the campaign?

Election Day is Sadie Hawkins' Day? Should be ladies' choice, then.

re: #201 MandyManners

He's gonna' kick your ass for that.

He's gotta find me first!

re: #195 TheMatrix31

I know. I thought it would 99% Obama , 0% McCain, 1% Ron Paul.

Sad...

If you've got toddler's secure those TVs.

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

NO kidding.

Don't do say it - do it!

Come ON, Moyer! You may the same initials as John McCain, but that means you're supposed to be a fighter!

re: #190 Truck Monkey

Chucky has a cool Hair Helmet. You can hardly tell he has one on.

/ snort

Chuck is bald? I didn't know that. Hooray for bald guys !

88 miles an hour.

In White Supremacist circles, 88 is used as an anagram for "Heil Hitler".

Fitting.

re: #203 Truck Monkey

He's gotta find me first!

Ranger Trivette will do that.

re: #208 buzzsawmonkey

Sadie Hawkins day: Sarah Palin may drag McCain over the finish line.

Carry him in her teeth like some arctic fox with her prey? Or like an inert old moose?

re: #156 Killgore Trout

I'm not counting on McCain pulling out some fantastic feat to win this election, If he was going to do that he would have done it by now. I think our best hope is some really terrible Obama gaff but I wouldn't bet on that happening.

The Vera Baker thing looks like it might break this week.

/Oh please oh please oh please

re: #213 buzzsawmonkey

So she does it, I don't care.

I think he'll be a fine president once he gets there, but he'll need some fired up people to make it happen and he keeps pouring water on the flames.

I talked to one of my hispanic workers today he said a few weeks ago (no we don't hire illegals ... we have been in the H2A program for over 15 years) anyway he told me outside the Wal-mart people were registering voters. They are trying to register people who are not even citizens... geez ...where will it end

re: #166 MandyManners

I talk about taxes and Ayers and ACORN and Soros.

First I pass around a copy (I carry a dozen with me!) of the wonderful list of Obama's Obfuscations* posted here by smart lizards, and add that we now have a Presidential candidate whose list of past anti-American associates would make it nearly impossible to get a security clearance for most Federal appointments, yet who may well gain entrance to none other than the Oval Office of the White House.

I remind them that they, personally, are voting to hire someone for the most important post in the nation, and the leader of the free world. Then, I ask why they would consider hiring someone with a totally empty, unsupported resume (piling up hundreds of 'Present' votes in the short time he actually served as a freshman Senator, before going straight on to his POTUS campaign). We don't know how Obama got into Harvard. We don't know how he managed to leapfrog over the heads of a dozen more qualified candidates with extensive legal publishing histories, when he was made President of Harvard Law Review. And we also don't know why he was offered a position as a tenured Professor at Chicago Law School.

Too many folks answer that at least Barry is 'Not Bush' or 'Not Republican', which can segue into Fannie/Freddie, Acorn, and the radical left economic policies which led us into the mortgage mess.

One of the best lines is a reply to the anti-Republican canard, "I'm not doing better than I was eight years ago." Remind them where the stock market and economy was before the Dems took power in Congress. Then ask them, "Are you better off than you were TWO years ago?"

*Obama's List of Obfuscations
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Record of Baptism -- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records -- 'not available'

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Regarding McCain saying he's gonna whip Obama on Wednesday: that, to my mind, means he's going to wimp out.

It brings to mind the rally before the 2nd debate when McCain was asked when he was going to take the gloves off, and he answered, "How about Tuesday night?". This of course set the attendees into a frenzy, as they (like the rest of us) have been hungry for Obama to get verbally eviscerated on national TV. But when it came down to it, McCain did take of his gloves, and had on another pair on underneath.

Senator McCain wants to run and "honorable" campaign, and that's all well and good, fine and dandy. But there's nothing honorable about doing a half-@$$ed job.

As for the original topic of this thread...uhm...don't drive faster than your guardian angels (in this case devils) can fly. But now that Haider is dead, he, Hitler and Saddam are looking for a fourth for bridge...I'm guessing it's a race between bin Laden and O.J. for the last seat.

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My Dad hasn't really said much about this election. He grew up in a small town, the only minority in the area at the time were the Native American's, still is pretty much.
Was a Marine and then worked in Chicago in the 1950's during segregation (?) and has not always been politically correct were African American's are concerned, I can only guess that his vote will go for McCain. I know that sounds bad and I'm not sure I explained it right but maybe someone else out there with baby boomer parents can help me out.
Really not trying to start trouble.

re: #219 Left Coast Right Mind

For all the honor the media says he's very negative, so he may as well do it and smash Obama's pretentions. I think he'll just keep on being kind and fatherly to Barry

i learned from the left if your guy doesn't win you don't have to accept the winner as POTUS

THUS; Barak Hussain Obama will never be my PRESIDENT

i had two dust ups this wk w/ close friends w/whom i had never really discussed politics.
afew days ago, the pres. debate came up in conversation w/ a black friend of mine. she began to really talk sarah down. i just said, "if you don't like sarah palin, you can't possible like me."
she stared at me, just speechless. i said, "i really admire sarah and of all the people running her ideas are most like mine."
well, my friend got hysterical and said she was leaving. i said, "no you're not leaving, we're going to have us a conversation." and we did.
i told her as a sm.business owner i'm going for the ticket that is going to be best for the economy. the party that is going to lower my taxes and stay out of my way. i said i want to be left alone from prying intrusive gov't. and i don't need a pres. to fix my soul."
she couldn't argue w/ any of that. we talked for an hour longer and it brought us closer. we were hugging and laughing when we said goodbye. she moved in my direction tho she will most likely still be voting obama. she is now thinking abt. all the negatives surrounding him most of which she didn't know abt. (wright, pflegar, ayers, fanny, freddy, odinga, hamas, soros, raines, farrakhan, the annenberg challenge, rezko, acorn etc.)
also she did admit that sarah can do so much more than any feminist we could name.
then today,i went round and round w/ another good friend. ( also an intellectual fruitcake but smart person) i told her the same thing, "you don't like sarah, you don't like me". she started w/ the book burnings and firing the trooper. i cancelled those allegations out and her source the nyt and the 14 bogus articles. and i emphasized the best choice is the party that will most stay out of our lives and keep our taxes low. and not try to fck w/ our souls ,
by the way, neither of these friends knew abt. obama's designs on our souls.
that bothered them the most.
so, politics was broached and i'm glad i spoke my mind w/ no yelling and hollering. it bothers me that politics is such a potentially explosive topic that
it is off limits btw people who really care abt. each other. i'm sick of that.

re: #222 yochanan

i learned from the left if your guy doesn't win you don't have to accept the winner as POTUS

THUS; Barak Hussain Obama will never be my PRESIDENT

And we can do the whole shadow administration Clinton thing...what a dreadful thought

I think Haider had "Ride of the Valkyries" blasting on his CD player. That will make you speed.

re: #223 nyc redneck

Unless they read it in the Times it isn't true. I wonder if it made them question the Grey Lady at all?

re: #219 Left Coast Right Mind

Senator McCain wants to run and "honorable" campaign, and that's all well and good, fine and dandy. But there's nothing honorable about doing a half-@$$ed job.

Not defending America with your last breath and all of your energy against a candidate who has made common cause with its avowed enemies is on my dishonorable list, too.

Fight for 'Country First', Mac!

re: #220 Little Doxie

What state are your parents in?

re: #153 Irene NYC

You might be surprised to see people's reactions when you talk about "Socialized medicine" and rationing of medical treatment. "BTW, did you know that France has fewer CAT scan machines than the state of Massachusetts? You didn't? Well, that's what happens when the government is in charge." They generally get the picture really quickly. I don't know if I've changed a lot of minds, but I do know that I've gotten them thinking.

I'd be interested to hear from lizards what other topics get favorable responses. Even this old dog is willing to learn some new tricks for a good cause.

You don't need my help, my dear; you're doing just fine without me. Unfortunately, most people aren't interested in facts. But we don't need most people; we only need a few (the soi-disant swing voters). Your words will resonate with them. Fuck the ideologues.

re: #223 nyc redneck

Excellent. With so much to work with concerning Obama, you have achieved in one sentence what I have been trying to formulate in my mind when the need arises. May I borrow it?

re: #214 Palandine

The Vera Baker thing looks like it might break this week.

/Oh please oh please oh please

Vera Baker?

re: #228 legalpad

Wisconsin, Dad born here, Mom born in Chicago moved here when they
married in 1961.

He died after a night of drinking and doing the goose-step-boogie. I didn't wish death upon him, but I don't miss him.

re: #231 MandyManners

Vera Baker?

Rushes off to google Vera Baker.

re: #220 Little Doxie

My Dad hasn't really said much about this election. He grew up in a small town, the only minority in the area at the time were the Native American's, still is pretty much.
Was a Marine and then worked in Chicago in the 1950's during segregation (?) and has not always been politically correct were African American's are concerned, I can only guess that his vote will go for McCain. I know that sounds bad and I'm not sure I explained it right but maybe someone else out there with baby boomer parents can help me out.
Really not trying to start trouble.

Never Vote For Evil.

/doesn't have much to do with skin color

re: #226 SpartanWoman

Unless they read it in the Times it isn't true. I wonder if it made them question the Grey Lady at all?

one friend occasionally writes for the nyt so she wants to believe in that rag.
i think my other friend does read it. what made these gals frown was the statement that the grifter was going to mess w/ their souls.
that's just too nuts.

Vera Baker?
The obomination's alleged girlfriend. Probably not good for us. Just looks like a smear.

re: #234 Hard Right

Rushes off to google Vera Baker.

BHO's thang.

re: #227 runrabbitrun

Not defending America with your last breath and all of your energy against a candidate who has made common cause with its avowed enemies...

Give the guy a break, McCain had to do that literally. Hillary Clinton couldn't defeat Barack. And no matter what McCain does, or what Barack will or has done, 48 percent of the country is still going to vote for him anyway.

re: #230 Little Doxie

Excellent. With so much to work with concerning Obama, you have achieved in one sentence what I have been trying to formulate in my mind when the need arises. May I borrow it?

of course, but what is the sentence?
LOL

re: #11 Idle Drifter

Are "Back to Future" 88 mph comments out of line? Don't answer that.

re: #210 HackD

88 miles an hour.

In White Supremacist circles, 88 is used as an anagram for "Heil Hitler".

Fitting.

Looks like he was sent Back to the Fuhrer.

You can't say there was no warning about McCain. Bush wanted it more in 2000 and his surrogates played it the way they had to in order for him to win. McCain always had, as he has now, his wealthy wife's liquor distributorship money to fall back on, so his approach certainly isn't all or nothing. His ego appears to insist on a level of senatorial dignity to his campaign that seems above the standards of anyone that has run for President in the past two decades. People of the country be damned, I guess.

While I hope he wins despite his well-revealed flaws I am scared s#**less by the idea of someone with the views, naivety, and cult of personality of Obama running this country, especially during a depression. How long after Obama is elected will we see pictures of Barry in every American classroom, and hear students , after the pledge of allegiance, recite a poem for the "Dear Leaders" health and well-being? We will be entering some very dark days for American democracy, indeed.

re: #242 offendi

You can't say there was no warning about McCain. Bush wanted it more in 2000 and his surrogates played it the way they had to in order for him to win. McCain always had, as he has now, his wealthy wife's liquor distributorship money to fall back on, so his approach certainly isn't all or nothing. His ego appears to insist on a level of senatorial dignity to his campaign that seems above the standards of anyone that has run for President in the past two decades. People of the country be damned, I guess.

While I hope he wins despite his well-revealed flaws I am scared s#**less by the idea of someone with the views, naivety, and cult of personality of Obama running this country, especially during a depression. How long after Obama is elected will we see pictures of Barry in every American classroom, and hear students , after the pledge of allegiance, recite a poem for the "Dear Leaders" health and well-being? We will be entering some very dark days for American democracy, indeed.

And if the House and Senate further tilt to the left he may well have a rubber stamp congress. Stock up on guns and ammo folks. It may be needed. Praying that it won't.

re: #232 Little Doxie

Well, not exactly a swing state but only a 9% difference in the polls. As for your earlier inquiry regarding baby-boomers - I don't see much of a pattern by generation. Generally, there are more Republicans among older generations, but the baby-boomers have the original hippies -sixties generation - like Michael Ayers.

re: #237 Hard Right

Vera Baker?
The obomination's alleged girlfriend. Probably not good for us. Just looks like a smear.

Yup, or a planted fake story. ACORN is the real deal here...with a sprinkling of Odinga

re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Would it be illegal to build fake polling booths outside of polling centers? Ones who fall for it, flip an inert switch, then just go home.

Would it be cheating to build one of those booths? I mean, placebo's are legal. Right? The do nothing, but they don't hurt anything either.

Just give them dried-up pens, tell them it has invisible ink inside, and have them mark the ballot with it. Hey, it worked before in Illinois.

When will there be a Lifetime Movie on Haider claiming that in the last 12 hours of his life an encounter with a kind Moslem woman had caused him to realize the error of his ways and he was actually hurrying on his way to endorse Barack Obama?

re: #243 Hard Right

And if the House and Senate further tilt to the left he may well have a rubber stamp congress. Stock up on guns and ammo folks. It may be needed. Praying that it won't.

If Obama is elected it will show people have tired of individual responsibility and rights, and just want big daddy government to run their lives, tell them what they can and cannot do, and take care of their issues and problems. Founding fathers turning over in their graves.

Here's one PUMA report on Vera Baker.

If she was being paid under a job title when someone else was doing the job and also being paid under the job title, this could be interesting.

re: #248 offendi

If Obama is elected it will show people have tired of individual responsibility and rights, and just want big daddy government to run their lives, tell them what they can and cannot do, and take care of their issues and problems. Founding fathers turning over in their graves.

That or that they are as ill informed and dependant on the MSM as we fear.

re: #239 Basho

Give the guy a break, McCain had to do that literally. Hillary Clinton couldn't defeat Barack. And no matter what McCain does, or what Barack will or has done, 48 percent of the country is still going to vote for him anyway.

Basho, I give the guy (and the U.S.) a break every time I give up all of my other obligations to go to the GOP office, and spend every spare moment cheerleading for him and his campaign! Recently I have posted my belief here that the Mac campaign strategy may rely on GOP internals, based on subtle independent voter dynamics too elusive for us to outguess - but with all this, I am hardly the only one who is concerned that our grassroots efforts are not being met, and matched. (Freddoso is the author of 'The Case Against Barack Obama')

re: #244 legalpad

The only good thing is I see alot more McCain signs this cycle. In 2004 Kerry signs were everywhere. WI has gone Dem the last 2 elections due in large part to the Acorn efforts in Milwaukee County.

re: #251 runrabbitrun

Well, I humbly take back my criticism since you are an individual working for the cause, although I don't agree with what Freddoso wrote in that article.

re: #237 Hard Right

Vera Baker?
The obomination's alleged girlfriend. Probably not good for us. Just looks like a smear.

If it ends up being true, it's not a smear. If Michele O was response for sending her to Martinique, it's not a smear.

Something like this did in John Edwards as VP. If it pulls away a few votes for the Messiah, I'll take it.

re: #253 Basho

Well, I humbly take back my criticism since you are an individual working for the cause, although I don't agree with what Freddoso wrote in that article.

I appreciate your comment =) heck, this is one tough election, what with the possible gravity of the consequences, and the seeming unfairness of the current economic situation setting up a ridiculous dynamic between a highly qualified but reserved and reticent candidate, and a silver-tongued, highly polished empty suit.

He must have felt ten feet tall with a hard-on after the victory. Indestructable.

Top of the world, Ma!

Booom

Given his political leanings, is there even the least chance, his "suicide" was an "accident/run off the road"?

Usually, I don't wish misfortune of my most fervent enemies. But in this case, good riddance.