At Last!

This was needed!

finally I can chill.

My second first-but we don't talk about that kind of thing here....

Oh Brother. Way to go John.

McCain just stated that he'll "whip" Obama in the next debate. I hate this politically correct crap where you have to check every word for proper nuance and references. It makes it impossible to speak. Nobody can maintain perfect political correctness 100% of time.

Still, McCain needs stop torpedoing his own campaign. Sometimes I get the feeling that McCain is a tone-deaf geek running for the Presidency of another planet. He has failed, despite repeated warnings from his most ardent supporters, to demolish the Democrat lies that the economic crisis is the fault of Republicans. The window is closing, if it hasn't already closed, to do that. Now this.

Folks, I know we are all worried, but the stakes are higher than just a mere Democrat gaining office. We are looking at sea-change, a crossing of the Rubicon, in which the good people of Middle America lose their political voice, perhaps permanently. Democrats have bamboozled minorities with free money and populist promises that stick, and with the election of a black candidate, opposed not for his race, but for his Lefitsm, will nevertheless brand all who oppose his election as racist. The Republican party is the party of Lincoln, and Blacks voted overwhelmingly Republican until FDR. Today, the future of the Republican party itself is in doubt.

We are entering an era where the Multicural Left, distinctly different from the centrist liberalism of Clinton, will now prevail, and the cultural ramifications -- moral relativism, political correctness, ethnic division, class warfare, real statism, real pacifism, will take on a reality hitherto unheard-of. With the election of Obama, we are entering an era where the Left flirts with the quintessential Charismatic Leader that has led many a nation to ruin, even as it plants the label of fascism on middle America.. Today, Cockie Roberts said with unrestrained glee, "We are all socialists now." Really? Democrats precipitate an economic debacle by blocking all regulation of Fannie, then hang the albatross on the Republicans (who make no effort to remove it), and then jeer at Republicans for being pro-regulation hypocrites. This will be par for the course during the next eight, twenty, or more years.

I hope that Obama governs as a centrist, but I doubt he will. He is the candidate that the Left has for decades been praying for. With his election the dawn of radical shift in America begins.

Perhaps this all just gloomy talk, and perhaps, in the next 24 days, voters will get a clue and put McCain in office.

Good night all. Sleep tight!

'peers like everyone is still beating that dead thread to a frazzle? ;-)>

An old friend who'll tell you to you straight!

Wabbit season!

re: #5 Globular Cluster

Oh Brother. Way to go John.

McCain just stated that he'll "whip" Obama in the next debate. I hate this politically correct crap where you have to check every word for proper nuance and references. It makes it impossible to speak. Nobody can maintain perfect political correctness 100% of time.

Still, McCain needs stop torpedoing his own campaign. Sometimes I get the feeling that McCain is a tone-deaf geek running for the Presidency of another planet. He has failed, despite repeated warnings from his most ardent supporters, to demolish the Democrat lies that the economic crisis is the fault of Republicans. The window is closing, if it hasn't already closed, to do that. Now this.

Folks, I know we are all worried, but the stakes are higher than just a mere Democrat gaining office. We are looking at sea-change, a crossing of the Rubicon, in which the good people of Middle America lose their political voice, perhaps permanently. Democrats have bamboozled minorities with free money and populist promises that stick, and with the election of a black candidate, opposed not for his race, but for his Lefitsm, will nevertheless brand all who oppose his election as racist. The Republican party is the party of Lincoln, and Blacks voted overwhelmingly Republican until FDR. Today, the future of the Republican party itself is in doubt.

We are entering an era where the Multicural Left, distinctly different from the centrist liberalism of Clinton, will now prevail, and the cultural ramifications -- moral relativism, political correctness, ethnic division, class warfare, real statism, real pacifism, will take on a reality hitherto unheard-of. With the election of Obama, we are entering an era where the Left flirts with the quintessential Charismatic Leader that has led many a nation to ruin, even as it plants the label of fascism on middle America.. Today, Cockie Roberts said with unrestrained glee, "We are all socialists now." Really? Democrats precipitate an economic debacle by blocking all regulation of Fannie, then hang the albatross on the Republicans (who make no effort to remove it), and then jeer at Republicans for being pro-regulation hypocrites. This will be par for the course during the next eight, twenty, or more years.

I hope that Obama governs as a centrist, but I doubt he will. He is the candidate that the Left has for decades been praying for. With his election the dawn of radical shift in America begins.

Perhaps this all just gloomy talk, and perhaps, in the next 24 days, voters will get a clue and put McCain in office.

Wow-no disrespect intended-but did you write all that since this thread opened?

TRIVIA question

Which of the Romanov family (Czar Nicolas) members bodies have never been found? There are 2.

re: #10 little boomer

Wow-no disrespect intended-but did you write all that since this thread opened?

I was just thinking the same thing.
;)

Want to break that mirror? Put Bjork in front of it.

re: #11 rawmuse

TRIVIA question

Which of the Romanov family (Czar Nicolas) members bodies have never been found? There are 2.

Well, Anastasia must've been one, right?

re: #8 Karridine

You mentioned you had done your tour of duty in Korea. What was your MOS if you don't mind my asking? I was an 05H off and on.

The best mirror is an old friend.

Except, perhaps, a two-way mirror. That sorta rocks.

re: #10 little boomer

HOT fingers, Boomer!

:D

re: #12 Irene NYC

I was just thinking the same thing.
;)

It took me 2 minutes to come up with "At last."

re: #8 Karridine

Karridine -- hi

Where's Miguel? ... alive? Do you know?

FF

re: #11 rawmuse

TRIVIA question

Which of the Romanov family (Czar Nicolas) members bodies have never been found? There are 2.

Alexei? The son?

re: #14 Irene NYC

Yes. Must have both to be the WINNAH!

Bjork sounds like slang for sex.

I Bjorked her brains out.

re: #9 Hard Right

Wabbit season!

Duck season. :)

re: #22 Hard Right

Bjork sounds like slang for sex.

I Bjorked her brains out.

have you seen her? She's NEVER been Bjorked.

With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros and acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America many more mergers and takeovers can be expected:

1.) Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W R. Grace Co. Will merge and become: Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.

2.) Polygram Records, Warner Bros., and Zesta Crackers join forces and become: Poly, Warner Cracker.

3.) 3M will merge with Goodyear and become: MMMGood.

4. Zippo Manufacturing, Audi Motors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will merge and become: ZipAudiDoDa .

5. FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become: FedUP.

6. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become: Fairwell Honeychild.

7. Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become: PouponPants.

8. Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will become: Knott NOW!

And finally...

9. Victoria 's Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new name: TittyTittyBangBang

re: #21 rawmuse

Yes. Must have both to be the WINNAH!

Anastasia and... Alexei.

re: #22 Hard Right

Bjork sounds like slang for sex.

I Bjorked her brains out.

Or the Swedish chef on the Muppets

OK tonight's WINNAHs will be Wyatt and Irene.
Answers are Anastasia and Alexei.

re: #15 Outrider

98G and 98C... Voice Intercept and Traffic Analyst... life atop tall mountains on the Korean DMZ, hand-picked to head up the follow-up team in the wake of USS Pueblo...

Oh, and taught Korean language at the US DLI, Monterey, CA... but NOT when Janis was there, ;)

Globularcluster, no disrespect, but I thought it was great that McCain said he was going to"whip" Obama's "you know what." I say way to go John. Screw political correctness!

re: #25 gmsc

THAT was just brill. And I needed to laugh something awful

Thanks.

re: #23 BlueCanuck

Duck season. :)

Wabbit Season!

re: #24 Wyatt Earp

have you seen her? She's NEVER been Bjorked.

She was attractive years ago. Not anymore tho. Ick.

re: #10 little boomer

Saved it up and dropped it in one globular.

re: #28 rawmuse

OK tonight's WINNAHs will be Wyatt and Irene.
Answers are Anastasia and Alexei.

I call shenanigans. "Both to the the winnah," someone said!

re: #19 Fearless Fred

Ent seenim in months... cannot update you, Fred

But Cognito has the right to Challenge...

re: #28 rawmuse

OK tonight's WINNAHs will be Wyatt and Irene.
Answers are Anastasia and Alexei.

Whoo hoo! Great History Channel production - Russia: Land of the Tsars. I watch it every time they run it, and feel terribly after hearing about the demise of the Romanovs.

Interesting new political chant I heard earlier today: "McCain, NOT Hussein!"

re: #10 little boomer

No, I typed it in the previous thread's text box, copied it (good habit), clicked new comments, saw that there was new thread, then posted it here. Thank you for asking.

re: #25 gmsc

With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros and acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America many more mergers and takeovers can be expected:
[snip]
9. Victoria 's Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new name: TittyTittyBangBang

That ones my favourite. :)

re: #11 rawmuse

TRIVIA question

Which of the Romanov family (Czar Nicolas) members bodies have never been found? There are 2.

Alexy and Anastasia? or one of the other sisters....heh.

re: #28 rawmuse

OK tonight's WINNAHs will be Wyatt and Irene.
Answers are Anastasia and Alexei.

So, do we like get a glass of champagne or somethin'?

re: #29 Karridine

98G and 98C... Voice Intercept and Traffic Analyst... life atop tall mountains on the Korean DMZ, hand-picked to head up the follow-up team in the wake of USS Pueblo...

Oh, and taught Korean language at the US DLI, Monterey, CA... but NOT when Janis was there, ;)

Excellent! Pleased to know that! I don't meet many fellow old time ASAers. Small crowd overall ;-)>

re: #31 Irene NYC

THAT was just brill. And I needed to laugh something awful

Thanks.

You're welcome. Always glad to bring one more smile in the world.

re: #24 Wyatt Earp

have you seen her? She's NEVER been Bjorked.

You made me choke on my apple!

re: #36 rawmuse

But Cognito has the right to Challenge...

Like Alexei, I will wait in anonymous silence for my chance to reascend the throne.

For centuries, if need be.

re: #42 Irene NYC

A Laurel and Hardy handshake to you both!

re: #45 pbird

You made me choke on my apple!

Sorry about that.

re: #39 Globular Cluster

No, I typed it in the previous thread's text box, copied it (good habit), clicked new comments, saw that there was new thread, then posted it here. Thank you for asking.

Good thinking-I'm going to copy my "At last!" (see comment No. 1) for future reference.

re: #29 Karridine

98G and 98C... Voice Intercept and Traffic Analyst... life atop tall mountains on the Korean DMZ, hand-picked to head up the follow-up team in the wake of USS Pueblo...

Oh, and taught Korean language at the US DLI, Monterey, CA... but NOT when Janis was there, ;)

No kidding? When? My daughter was learning Korean there during the very early '90s.

Good trivia question to win a few drinks:

Who was Gerald Ford's VP?

re: #47 rawmuse

A Laurel and Hardy handshake to you both!

Thanks, rawmuse.
;)
/although I would've really like a glass of bubbly. Next time, huh?

re: #48 Wyatt Earp

Sorry about that.

No it was great. I rarely lol.

Damn can anyone see Angel Island right now? What an incredible scene! Never seen anything like it in my life.

Good evening all, where are all the new people posting? Or is everybody just creating more sock puppets?

re: #32 Hard Right

She was attractive years ago. Not anymore tho. Ick.

Sorry, but when she wore that swan to one of the award shows all I could think was "YIKES! SHE'S WEARING A SWAN!"

Worst fashion statement ever, and her music sucks as well.

/if you can call it music.

re: #51 ACJohn

Good trivia question to win a few drinks:

Who was Gerald Ford's VP?

Nelson Rockerfeller.

re: #57 little boomer

Nelson Rockerfeller.

Bingo!

re: #54 zombie

Damn can anyone see Angel Island right now? What an incredible scene! Never seen anything like it in my life.

Whats going on?

re: #52 Irene NYC

Thanks, rawmuse.
;)
/although I would've really like a glass of bubbly. Next time, huh?

If I get back to NYC I shall not fail to look you up. Fair warning. :)
And, yes, I go there a couple times per year.

Holy crap...just noticed I crossed the 4000 post mark...time to hit the sack.

See y'all in the morning.

re: #32 Hard Right

Duck season!

re: #56 Intrepid

Sorry, but when she wore that swan to one of the award shows all I could think was "YIKES! SHE'S WEARING A SWAN!"

Worst fashion statement ever, and her music sucks as well.

/if you can call it music.

Give her a break, she was there to sing "Swanee" River. :)

re: #51 ACJohn

Good trivia question to win a few drinks:

Who was Gerald Ford's VP?

Rockefeller.

Would Charles accept this as post #1 أولى داخل I wonder? Or Во первых внутри? Zuerst innen ?

re: #60 rawmuse

If I get back to NYC I shall not fail to look you up. Fair warning. :)
And, yes, I go there a couple times per year.

I'll hold you to it, too.
;)

re: #11 rawmuse

TRIVIA question

Which of the Romanov family (Czar Nicolas) members bodies have never been found? There are 2.

The missing ones.

re: #5 Globular Cluster

No offense but - stow that shit.

See Palandine's post from the previous thread:

re: #939 Palandine

Obama OUGHT to be up 20 points: bad economy (which he never misses a chance to talk down), unpopular lame duck president from other party, an opponent that most Republicans didn't want in the first place, the media in the tank for him, and he's good looking and makes a good teleprompter speech. He should be DESTROYING McCain.

But he's not. He's within the margin of error, and given how skewed the polls are, it can be assumed McCain is actually ahead. The dems and the media chose...poorly...and are heading for epic fail.

The polls showing Mac losing big are utter bullshit.

Hell, AOL's straw poll has McCain up big!

re: #57 little boomer

Nelson Rockerfeller.

No fair! You beat me only because you posted before I did.

re: #59 coquimbojoe

Whats going on?

The entire thing is on fire!

re: #62 BlueCanuck

Duck season!

The greatest Looney Tunes cartoon . . . EVER!

re: #25 gmsc

With all the turmoil in the market today and the collapse of Lehman Bros and acquisition of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America many more mergers and takeovers can be expected:

1.) Hale Business Systems, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Fuller Brush, and W R. Grace Co. Will merge and become: Hale, Mary, Fuller, Grace.

2.) Polygram Records, Warner Bros., and Zesta Crackers join forces and become: Poly, Warner Cracker.

3.) 3M will merge with Goodyear and become: MMMGood.

4. Zippo Manufacturing, Audi Motors, Dofasco, and Dakota Mining will merge and become: ZipAudiDoDa .

5. FedEx is expected to join its competitor, UPS, and become: FedUP.

6. Fairchild Electronics and Honeywell Computers will become: Fairwell Honeychild.

7. Grey Poupon and Docker Pants are expected to become: PouponPants.

8. Knotts Berry Farm and the National Organization of Women will become: Knott NOW!

And finally...

9. Victoria 's Secret and Smith &Wesson will merge under the new name: TittyTittyBangBang

Also:

10. Netscape and Yahoo will merge and relocate their HQ to Israel. The new entity will be called, Netandyahoo.

11. "TCBY (The Country's Best Yogurt)" and "I Can't Believe It's Yogurt!" will merge. The new company will be called, "I Can't Believe It's The Country's Best Yogurt!".

re: #38 gmsc

Interesting new political chant I heard earlier today: "McCain, NOT Hussein!"

Heard on the radio about a yard sign someone had seen that said 'use your brain, vote McCain'

The best mirror is an old friend.Well thats just great.All my old friends are dead.Now I cant go look in the damn mirror anymore.

re: #70 zombie

The entire thing is on fire!

What? You're kidding!

re: #63 Wyatt Earp

Give her a break, she was there to sing "Swanee" River. :)

Heh. Don't see how she could have sung anything, with the neck of that beast choking her.

I think it's on Blackwell's list of 10 worst dresses EVER.

re: #69 MandyManners

No fair! You beat me only because you posted before I did.

Don't ask me what I had for lunch yesterday though.

As a Canadian conservative I have a reason other than ideological sympathy to be rooting for McCain, namely that he's a free trader. Obama smells like a protectionist to me.

re: #70 zombie

The entire thing is on fire!

The whole park?

re: #70 zombie

The entire thing is on fire!

The flat part or the round part? Or the 'whole thing'?

McCain apparently thinks that senility is an elective attribute. It is rather sad actually. He still tries to kiss the left's ass as they deflate his tires.

re #15 Outrider

I was the 33F writing NTF on your 2404 when you needed a break from the ditty-bops.

/snark

re: #75 Irene NYC

What? You're kidding!

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

re: #66 Irene NYC

I'll hold you to it, too.
;)

OK. I miss NYC terribly. I always have such fun there. Stay up all night like a teenager, spend too much money. It's great.

re: #78 Moe Katz

As a Canadian conservative I have a reason other than ideological sympathy to be rooting for McCain, namely that he's a free trader. Obama smells like a protectionist to me.

Is that what that peculiar odor is? I was wondering.

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Also:

10. Netscape and Yahoo will merge and relocate their HQ to Israel. The new entity will be called, Netandyahoo.

11. "TCBY (The Country's Best Yogurt)" and "I Can't Believe It's Yogurt!" will merge. The new company will be called, "I Can't Believe It's The Country's Best Yogurt!".

I love it!

re: #75 Irene NYC

What? You're kidding!

No! I can see the whole thing from where I am now sitting. Huge fireballs leaping into the sky -- like mushroom clouds.

The smoke is orange from the flames. Floating toward San Francisco. (Which is safe -- it's across the Bay.)

re: #57 little boomer

Nelson Rockerfeller.

Rockefeller.

"Rockerfeller" is the glam rock alter ego.

re: #80 coquimbojoe

The flat part or the round part? Or the 'whole thing'?

Looks like about 10 acres. More here.

re: #83 Bobibutu

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Firefighters from around Marin County and San Francisco are fighting a fire on the top of Angel Island.

"It is a very big fire," said U.S. Coast Guard Lt. Amy Marrs.

She said the wind appears to be driving the fire on the island, which at 740 acres is the largest island in San Francisco Bay.

The fire, which was reported around 9 p.m. was about 200 feet by 200 feet at 9:30 p.m., according to a dispatcher at the Mill Valley Police Department who was fielding calls.

"It is just massive. You can see the orange flames from the bridge," Mark Crawford, an Orinda resident, said after driving across the Bay Bridge and seeing the fire.

The U.S. Coast Guard was transporting fire personnel out to the island, a dispatcher said.

The island's highest point is Mount Livermore at 781 feet high. The fire was burning on the east side of the island, near the reservoir.

Well hell, I shoulda known that there was a new thread up when I started catching up on the old one!
LOL!
Anyway, all y'all it's been grand but I gotta get some sleep! I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Goodnight, all.

re: #79 Cognito

The whole park?

It's say well over 50% of the island is aflame right now.

re: #85 Outrider

Is that what that peculiar odor is? I was wondering.

Yes, the putrid smell of union-driven trade barriers...

re: #80 coquimbojoe

The flat part or the round part? Or the 'whole thing'?

Looks like the entire top of the island, and most of the southern and western sides.

re: #83 Bobibutu

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Wow!

Check the comments for links with pictures!

re: #87 zombie

Angel Island is one of my fave biking places. This is terrible. The state just removed a bunch of eucalyptus trees from it, because they are so volatile.

re: #82 OldDog

re #15 Outrider

I was the 33F writing NTF on your 2404 when you needed a break from the ditty-bops.

/snark

Ahhh. Ain't it funny how them things always managed to be alright when the mech showed up and promptly went wonky when they left. Almost seemed like a mech would have to sneak around the coner and surprise the equipment to catch it not working right. ;-)>

Glad to meet another ASAer!

How do you set an entire ISLAND on fire?!

re: #91 realwest

Nite RW.

re: #95 Racer X

Wow!

Check the comments for links with pictures!

Yikes.

Uh, hold on a sec, what is Angel Island ? Is it a residential place?

re: #87 zombie

No! I can see the whole thing from where I am now sitting. Huge fireballs leaping into the sky -- like mushroom clouds.

The smoke is orange from the flames. Floating toward San Francisco. (Which is safe -- it's across the Bay.)

It's all over the news already. Yikes!

There are some amazing shots of the Angel Island Fire here.

Here are photos:

Angel Island on fire -- reader photos.

Look at the city in the foreground for a sense of scale...

re: #95 Racer X

Wow!

Check the comments for links with pictures!

[Link: sfist.com...]

awesome pics.

Bjork's dress.

re: #100 Cognito

Yikes.

Indeed.

Fire season is upon us here in California.

re: #94 zombie

Looks like the entire top of the island, and most of the southern and western sides.

I was thinking Treasure Island.....

re: #68 Racer X

The polls showing Mac losing big are utter bullshit.

Yeah. The polls showing Obama way up don't pan out mathmatically. He hasn't gained more support from his base; it has been relatively stead (actually gone down very slightly.) McCain's base hasn't really budged, and neither have independents.

These poll swings are artificial. For Obama to climb like he had been, his support had to come from somewhere, but he didn't gain in any areas.

re: #92 zombie

It's say well over 50% of the island is aflame right now.

The reports say it's currently 25 acres burning there.

re: #101 realwest

It is a park. There is an Immigrant Monument there. It was like Ellis Island, only for the Chinese.

re: #87 zombie

No! I can see the whole thing from where I am now sitting. Huge fireballs leaping into the sky -- like mushroom clouds.

The smoke is orange from the flames. Floating toward San Francisco. (Which is safe -- it's across the Bay.)

Anybody have any idea where it started on the island? 30 foot flames, this is serious.

re: #98 Occasional Reader

How do you set an entire ISLAND on fire?!

Tell them (The One) is now president?

re: #111 rawmuse
Ah, thank rawmuse - anyone still living there?!

re: #83 Bobibutu

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

Angel Island

re: #114 realwest

Ah, thank rawmuse - anyone still living there?!

There may still be an old military installation, I think?

May have closed long ago, though.

Outrider

Did my old heart good to see the old Mass Power and Light Patch up in your avatar.

Fill in the blank Lightning Fast Chicken ______

re: #114 realwest

Ah, thank rawmuse - anyone still living there?!

Probably some Park Rangers, maybe not even those. It is quite a lovely place. I have kayaked there many times.

re: #103 zombie

Here are photos:

Angel Island on fire -- reader photos.

Live shot

re: #106 MandyManners

Bjork's dress.

How many poor polyesters had to needlessly die to make that gown (sigh)
/peta pet

How did it start?

re: #108 coquimbojoe

I was thinking Treasure Island.....

TI dosen't have the brush developed ... Angel is mostly wild.

re: #81 pat

McCain apparently thinks that senility is an elective attribute. It is rather sad actually. He still tries to kiss the left's ass as they deflate his tires.

re: #68 Racer X

No offense but - stow that shit.

See Palandine's post from the previous thread:

The polls showing Mac losing big are utter bullshit.

Hell, AOL's straw poll has McCain up big!

Yeah, I'm trying to comfort myself with that thought, that the polls are bullshit. They were bullshit in 2004 and 2000. Also, Obama has $400M clams and Mac is still within striking distance. 24 days are an eternity.

But I've been gloomy all day. I just wish Mac would understand the gravity of this election and expose the Dems on the economy and Obama's associates more. This bipartisan stuff is bullshit. That era is long gone, sadly, and it doesn't help that there is one easily avoided tactical fuck-up after another.

re: #120 Outrider

How many poor polyesters had to needlessly die to make that gown (sigh)
/peta pet

They willingly gave up their lives.

Background: Angel Island Wikipedia article

re: #123 Globular Cluster

((((((Globular Cluster))))))

re: #24 Wyatt Earp

have you seen her? She's NEVER been Bjorked.

But at this moment, she could probably buy her homeland of Iceland outright, for cash.

Looks like the real apex of the inferno is now past. For a while there it was like a firestorm. Now it's flattened out and is spreading around the rest of the island.

re: #109 Scion9

These poll swings are artificial. For Obama to climb like he had been, his support had to come from somewhere, but he didn't gain in any areas.

The polls showing Obama way up are a direct attempt by the media (ahem) to put this in the bag for Obama.

That shit aint gonna work.

re: #118 rawmuse
Well I'm glad no one was (apparently) killed or injured
but it's a shame for such a pretty place to burn to the ground like that.

Well anyway, I really DO have to go to bed, so goodnight all y'all - hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Goodnight all.

Some campers were there. And the fire started by the camp site.

re: #117 OldDog

Outrider

Did my old heart good to see the old Mass Power and Light Patch up in your avatar.

Fill in the blank Lightning Fast Chicken ______

For sure. It beats the hell out of the silly assed Erect Key patch of INSCOM.

re: #8 Karridine

An old friend who'll tell you to you straight!

Right. My oldest and closest friends are those who have shown me my own turds and never sugar coated how bad they stank. A truly good friend doesn't pat you on the back and feed you candied BS about your fuck-ups.

Nite, real! Sleep well.

Zombie,

Are there residents on Angel Island? Is this a grass fire or something of the petroleum genre?

re: #128 zombie

Looks like the real apex of the inferno is now past. For a while there it was like a firestorm. Now it's flattened out and is spreading around the rest of the island.

There is (was) a lot of dry brush ... a group of us went hiking there a month ago.

re: #71 Wyatt Earp

The greatest Looney Tunes cartoon . . . EVER!

Here's the Heavy Metal version....

re: #124 MandyManners

They willingly gave up their lives.

Sacrifice. To bad they aren't very tasty. lol

re: #126 MandyManners

((((((Globular Cluster))))))

Thanks. ;-) I really do need a hug.

re: #131 Irene NYC

Some campers were there. And the fire started by the camp site.

Was probably a camp moby...

re: #122 Bobibutu

I was stationed on TI in 1970. I don't remember where Angel was from TI. North?

re: #131 Irene NYC

Some campers were there. And the fire started by the camp site.

Is "campers" the San Fransicko code word for "homeless"? And shouldn't the homeless actually be called apartmentless? Just wonderin'.

re: #106 MandyManners

Bjork's dress.

Bjork! Bjork! Bjork! Bjork!

Angel Island, if it did burn, I hope the Ft. McDowell structures did not. Dry brush comes back. It will be back by next year. Those damned eucalyptus trees are a scourge if you ask me. Non-native, oily, and very messy trees. They go up like roman candles.

Well.

Don't think that this hasn't been just a little slice of heaven, cause it has.

But my eyes are getting tired, it's almost 1 in the AM, and I can either wander about the house looking for one of the half-dozen or so pairs of reading glasses strewn about or go to bed.

So I'm going to shut the back door, fill up the cat's dish, and see if the daughter left a piece of that good chocolate cake with peanut butter frosting.

I'll either be back shortly with peanut butter breath or gone to bed.

re: #50 razorbacker

I taught late 67, early 68... was walking to my first class of the day when USS Pueblo overtook me...

re: #136 Bobibutu

There is (was) a lot of dry brush ... a group of us went hiking there a month ago.

As long as no one was hurt, this may not be completely tragic -- that dry brush may have indicated it was time for a natural, cyclical fire.

Impressive photos. Wonder why I want a marshmallow?

re: #135 Globular Cluster

Zombie,

Are there residents on Angel Island? Is this a grass fire or something of the petroleum genre?

No permanent residents. Except maybe a ranger. (It's a state park.) I wouldn't imagine there'd be campers, but #131 Irene NYC says there were campers there. Nuts!

re: #128 zombie

Looks like the real apex of the inferno is now past. For a while there it was like a firestorm. Now it's flattened out and is spreading around the rest of the island.

Very sad Zombie,sounded like a very beautiful place.

re: #141 Cap'n DOC

I was stationed on TI in 1970. I don't remember where Angel was from TI. North?

Yes ... towards Tiburon.

re: #142 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Is "campers" the San Fransicko code word for "homeless"? And shouldn't the homeless actually be called apartmentless? Just wonderin'.

I don't know.

re: #141 Cap'n DOC

I was stationed on TI in 1970. I don't remember where Angel was from TI. North?

Yes, north -- it's adjacent to Marin County.

re: #138 Outrider

Sacrifice. To bad they aren't very tasty. lol

They taste like rubber chicken.

It's back to bed for me. Sweet dreams, Lizards!

re: #143 gmsc

Bjork! Bjork! Bjork! Bjork!

One of the funniest of the Muppets! Attacking spaghetti. ;-)>

re: #142 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Is "campers" the San Fransicko code word for "homeless"? And shouldn't the homeless actually be called apartmentless? Just wonderin'.

Urban outdoorsmen.

re: #141 Cap'n DOC

Northwest, toward Marin County.

RE: #132 Outrider

Ah Yes, The Key to the Vault of Stupid. When the Huminters took over and the State Department got their hooks in.

We never learn I guess!

re: #71 Wyatt Earp

The greatest Looney Tunes cartoon . . . EVER!

It's not as well know, but this is my favorite non-Bugs, non-Daffy Warner Bros. Cartoon.

To bed.

bed...zzz...

re: #144 rawmuse

Angel Island, if it did burn, I hope the Ft. McDowell structures did not. Dry brush comes back. It will be back by next year. Those damned eucalyptus trees are a scourge if you ask me. Non-native, oily, and very messy trees. They go up like roman candles.

But makes a superior mulch when shredded. Natural bug repellent.

re: #106 MandyManners

I remember that one. She won an award that year for the ugliest dress if I remember correctly. Of course she also has been seen wearing these:

Bjork

re: #143 gmsc

Bjork! Bjork! Bjork! Bjork!

I love that little guy, and Beaker too.

/they're way better than that Elmo character.

re: #97 Outrider

Wanted to signal back to you, but Monday afternoon chores called... email me if you want ASA hangouts online, Outrider!

You can rent a kayak in SF and paddle to Angel Island, if you don't mind going across the shipping lanes, with freighters big as skyscrapers laying on their sides going past you. Last time I did it, I almost had to spend the night there because the wind kept pushing me back.

re: #142 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Regular State Park campsites.

re: #156 Outrider

Had meals like that in the army. :)

/thank god I was better armed.

Wow, it's really died down, just in the last 15 minutes. No huge leaping flames any more, just a vast area covered with low flames and smoldering embers. I suspepct by morning they'll see that a substantial portion of the island was torched.

The one area that seems to have been spared is the north end, which is good news, because that's where most of the historical immigration buildings are.

re: #147 Cognito

As long as no one was hurt, this may not be completely tragic -- that dry brush may have indicated it was time for a natural, cyclical fire.

All of the Bay Area is and has been long overdue. There have been decades of pissing contests about having controlled burns or not. This is the first I've heard of a fire on Angel Island - My family has been here for around 100 years.

re: #13 Wyatt Earp

Want to break that mirror? Put Bjork in front of it.

Heh. But you gotta admit, "Army of Me" is pretty kick-ass, especially with a metal-ish treatment.

re: #171 Bobibutu

My family has been here for around 100 years.

Well that settles the question from the last thread about who the oldest lizard is...
;)

This is the time of year that the Great Oakland Fire happened, back in the '90s.

re: #159 OldDog

RE: #132 Outrider

Ah Yes, The Key to the Vault of Stupid. When the Huminters took over and the State Department got their hooks in.

We never learn I guess!

I've always thought that was why they encouraged military to retire after 20 odd years. They know what has worked and didn't work and where the "bodies" are buried.

I live next to Fort Stewart and keep in touch with the Infantry and SigInters and they are always bringing concepts back that have already been tried and been superseded or failed.

I remember the Oakland Hills fire way back in the day. It seems like an eternity since it happened. We sat on our roof in Berkely, drank beers, watched and pointed.

How is SF these days, Zombie? Despite the nutballs, is it still a place you like to call home?

re: #149 zombie

No permanent residents. Except maybe a ranger. (It's a state park.) I wouldn't imagine there'd be campers, but #131 Irene NYC says there were campers there. Nuts!

One of the reports I read said 30 foot flames, 12 campers (maybe they meant hikers?), and fire starting near where the campers were. I didn't save the link, but I'll see what I can find.

err... "Berkeley", getting tired.

re: #170 zombie

Wow, it's really died down, just in the last 15 minutes. No huge leaping flames any more, just a vast area covered with low flames and smoldering embers. I suspepct by morning they'll see that a substantial portion of the island was torched.

The one area that seems to have been spared is the north end, which is good news, because that's where most of the historical immigration buildings are.

Thats where the ferry and boat docks are as well as the museum.

There are several on the south east side - I hope they made it as well - about half way up.

re: #166 Karridine

Wanted to signal back to you, but Monday afternoon chores called... email me if you want ASA hangouts online, Outrider!

I know most of them and attend a couple of reunions. Mostly keep up with all the old timers I served with. Quite a few are still around.

re: #175 Outrider

Outrider, here's an ASA link you might appreciate...

re: #173 Killer Tomato

Well that settles the question from the last thread about who the oldest lizard is...
;)

I had this bad feeling about my choice of words when I hit post. ;-)

re: #180 Outrider

Yeah... if I'd known I was gonna live THIS LONG, I'da taken better care of myself! :D

re: #25 gmsc

Thanks for the chuckle! I needed that tonight.

From cbs5:

Officials told CBS 5 that about a dozen campers were on the island at the time the blaze broke out. The location of the blaze was reportedly near the camping area.

All political BS, which is fine, but its f-n 11:00 west coast time. Time 4 some music, I cant remember who had this affliction, maybe somebody can help me out. It's an old LGF sage, he knows who he is...

Who was the LGF guy who always posted music via u-tube?

[Link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]...]

re: #185 Irene NYC

Honest, Ossifer, we looked up and the fire just JUMPED out into the dry, tinder brush...

re: #167 rawmuse

You can rent a kayak in SF and paddle to Angel Island, if you don't mind going across the shipping lanes, with freighters big as skyscrapers laying on their sides going past you. Last time I did it, I almost had to spend the night there because the wind kept pushing me back.

Getting sucked out the Gate on a fast tide and wind ever a concern?

re: #181 Karridine

Outrider, here's an ASA link you might appreciate...

Hadn't been there; web site or site. Sure can recognize it for what is though eh? lol

When I was in Jordan on a deployment we noticed a Chinese "toilet factory" a few miles out of El Jafr. Looked almost exactly like that photo. Took some great photos for the "folks back home". lol

re: #120 Outrider

How many poor polyesters had to needlessly die to make that gown (sigh)
/peta pet

how many plants had to die for this?

re: #186 eddiespaghetti

All political BS, which is fine, but its f-n 11:00 west coast time. Time 4 some music, I cant remember who had this affliction, maybe somebody can help me out. It's an old LGF sage, he knows who he is...

Who was the LGF guy who always posted music via u-tube?

[Link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]...]

babbazee posts tons of music, so does killgore trout.

Does any of that ring a bell?

So, here’s tonight’s story about how race is not injected into the presidential campaign by some. Tonight I went to visit my 92 year old Pop at his nursing home. He is not well, but his biggest problem is severe dementia. Most of the time he doesn’t have a clear thought in his head, but this evening he was fairly alert. As we sat in the parlor watching the TV news, he asked me when he saw Obama, “who is that man?” I told him the name, the particulars, and said Obama’s mother was a white lady and his father a black man. Pop, who sometimes uses expressions in German, said “Es macht nicht” (pronounced “es mox nix”). That translates to “it matters not”. Then Pop said Obama had big, funny ears. “So do you, Pop”, I said, and that’s true. But Pop, would not be outdone, and said, “but mine don’t stick out like that, and besides he has a weird name. And he also talks slick, like a used-car salesman or a politician who says nothing important”.
I said no more, but when I left Pop tonight, he said, “that expression can also mean, the hell with ‘em”. All in all it was an amusing but an enlightening evening.
Thanks for listening to Grandma and her demented Pop on this lovely fall Carolina evening, and have a nice day.

re: #186 eddiespaghetti

There are actually several of them, Eddie...

re: #176 Globular Cluster

A musician friend of mine was at a gig when his home was consumed. He was left with his instrument, his only clothing was what he was wearing (a formal tux) and his car. I called him about it, and he said "I am fine. I have everything I need to start over". And, so he did.

re: #190 IslandLibertarian

how many plants had to die for this?

er...one too many? ;-)>

Found this doing a random search on you tube.
Ronald Reagan - Lessons On How To Combat Islamic Fascism

Obama's 95% Illusion
It depends on what the meaning of 'tax cut' is.
Disseminate far and wide.

re: #189 Outrider

"Toilet Factory"?

Yeah, Outrider, so when folks complain about America "bombing an aspirin factory!" I just take it with a grain of salt, which (from experience) is usually MSG...

re: #121 MandyManners

How did it start?

Haven't heard how that one started but one of the ones we have here in Southern California in being investigated by the bomb squad as well as arson investigators. Makes me livid.

re: #188 Bobibutu

Getting sucked out the Gate on a fast tide and wind ever a concern?

I never worried about that, I could beat the tide by itself, but the with wind, no way. This little duckling would be headed for the shoals.

kilgore trout rings a bell:

But he is not the sage, 2 years ago, mad affliction with you-tube. A little help...

re: #201 eddiespaghetti

In the morning, usually? From Ohio?
realwest would know, I'd say.

re: #200 rawmuse

I never worried about that, I could beat the tide by itself, but the with wind, no way. This little duckling would be headed for the shoals.

Sounds like fun ... I've just sailed on the Bay. Something for next summer.

re: #196 ACJohn

Found this doing a random search on you tube.
Ronald Reagan - Lessons On How To Combat Islamic Fascism

Awesome individual. Scared the living f**k out of the liberals.

Knew what had to be done Down South too except a wuss congress wouldn't b believe him.

#193, looking for the original, he knows who he is. He gets a little embarrased when I bring it up. It has been a long time!

re: #198 Karridine

"Toilet Factory"?

Yeah, Outrider, so when folks complain about America "bombing an aspirin factory!" I just take it with a grain of salt, which (from experience) is usually MSG...

Well, after seeing some of the places we have used for cover OCONUS, nothing surprises me, much less an aspirin factory or perfume plant.

8-year anniversary of the USS Cole bombing

re: #199 Pvt Bin Jammin

Haven't heard how that one started but one of the ones we have here in Southern California in being investigated by the bomb squad as well as arson investigators. Makes me livid.

wasn't there a gang of explosives and caps gone missing in California today?

Ah - it just hit me .. Fleet Week and the Blue Angels - of course there would be campers on the island - an awesome spot to photograph the event over the weekend.

Name the fav's at LGF, late night! I have been gone 4 awhile.

This is so weak, but a good song!

re: #204 Outrider

America! Last, best hope for world peace with justice and compassion...

NEVER SURRENDER!

re: #56 Intrepid

Sorry, but when she wore that swan to one of the award shows all I could think was "YIKES! SHE'S WEARING A SWAN!"

Worst fashion statement ever, and her music sucks as well.

/if you can call it music.

It's just weird human behaviour, ya know?

Fleet week where? SD, SF, NY. Many places...

re: #213 eddiespaghetti

Fleet week where? SD, SF, NY. Many places...

SF - where Angel Island is on fire.

re: #208 Outrider

Yes, somebody posted a link this morning from either the OC Register or Sign on San Diego about the stolen explosive materials. The fire in Tujunga Canyon is being investigated by Bomb Squad and Arson Investigators. Don't know if there's a connection but does make one wonder.

re: #213 eddiespaghetti

Fleet week where? SD, SF, NY. Many places...

San Francisco. I usually go, but I have been laid up with a cold. I can see the Blue Angels from my bedroom window. I watched them for a bit today. Some other weird aircraft flew right over my house a couple times today. Some big'uns.

re: #211 Karridine

America! Last, best hope for world peace with justice and compassion...

NEVER SURRENDER!

When I see them anarchists up in the NW or any of Zombies photos, I go onto Fort Stewart and talk to those soldiers or onto Hunter Army Air Field and get with them Rangers. Gives me all the confidence I need to know we got 'er licked.

'night all.
Happy Monday, and have an enjoyable Columbus Day / Thanksgiving.

re: #215 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yes, somebody posted a link this morning from either the OC Register or Sign on San Diego about the stolen explosive materials. The fire in Tujunga Canyon is being investigated by Bomb Squad and Arson Investigators. Don't know if there's a connection but does make one wonder.

Seems like a waste to use them there even for a dry run, when there is so much unobserved land a little distance off.

My old roomate was a blue, talk about 'rock star' for a few years. There are actually so many people who love FW in SF. The only thing that gets press is the libs and anti-mil croud. Isn't that F-d up. I know that 9 out of 10 love it, but the whiney fags win. That sucks, not goint 2 change either...

re: #218 Killer Tomato

"Nite. Same to ya!

Just wait til ZerObama tries to redistribute THIS WEALTH!
(Scroll down through the whole page)

re: #210 eddiespaghetti

A Maiden fan?

re: #106 MandyManners

Bjork's dress.

Bjork's red socks ...

Sorry, 9 of 10 F#%$'s love it 2. Didn't want to hate on them, they love that shit~

#223, are you kidding me?

re: #222 IslandLibertarian

Nice. I can ride my bike there in an hour or so. Yeah, California just sucks, alright. :)

re: #222 IslandLibertarian

Just wait til ZerObama tries to redistribute THIS WEALTH!
(Scroll down through the whole page)

good looking water. here off of Coastal Georgia, it's all brownish.

re: #222 IslandLibertarian

Great pics. Makes me feel like taking a trip north.

re: #222 IslandLibertarian

You know, it wasn't always like that there. My wife had a crazy great uncle who lived on the waterfront of Sausalito back when it looked like the kind of place you would wake up in the trunk of a car after you had been kidnapped. We got to visit him once before he passed. He had pictures of Sally Rand, a local madam (she coined the phrase "What a business. You got it. You sell it. You still got it."). It was a heady place back during Prohibition too.

Can I play with madness? I cant believe the old LGF sage isn't here to skool me on the You-tube shizzle?

Sorry about the F#@ stuff, not hating, love yall. I mean not LOVE yall, but not trying to hate on you. God I feel like a sissy lib, not trying 2 hate on u.

re: #231 eddiespaghetti

You can't fuck up my perception of San Francisco any more than it is already in my head. Did I mention I have lived here 30 years? Nope, no surprises for me.

re: #226 eddiespaghetti

#223, are you kidding me?

Huh?

re: #227 rawmuse

Nice. I can ride my bike there in an hour or so. Yeah, California just sucks, alright. :)

I'm a native Californian, tried moving back there twice.........just couldn't stay.
They've fucked up Orange County and NoCal is just too cold.
I'll just have to stay where I am..........

R u kidding me like Yeah, I am.

Your best friend is an old mirror.

re: #227 rawmuse

Nice. I can ride my bike there in an hour or so. Yeah, California just sucks, alright. :)

Used to sail over from Oakland for Sunday brunch back in the 50's. Tie up at the restaurants dock and walk in. No dress code if you came by boat.

I could speak like I would 2 my bro's but I dont want 2 be quoted...

If U promised I would not be quoted, I would say..

Yes, I fucking like Iron Maiden, they fucking rock, link 2 the via the internets machine...

Open Thread?

Okay.

I cannot 'see' Barack Obama as POTUS.

Ain't gonna happen.

I could be wrong.

There are too many ways for that not to be the case.

Check back with me when they swear in the new guy.

Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

Barack Obama is about to do an Icarus.

And if he manages to somehow fall to Earth intact - we'll gather around and wonder how he survived.

He's toast.

Broiled by the flames of his own making.

Toast.

The American voter is stupid - but not that stupid.

Not yet.

Stay tuned.

re: #239 Steel Turman

I hope you are right.

There's nothing wrong with Iron Maiden. That was a great one somebody posted. LOL

re: #239 Steel Turman

From your lips to G-ds ear. I'm hoping your are right - but now is not the time to coast to the finish line. Who was the guy that coasted in the Olympics? And got blown off by what? 0.01 sec.

re: #230 rawmuse

You know, it wasn't always like that there. My wife had a crazy great uncle who lived on the waterfront of Sausalito back when it looked like the kind of place you would wake up in the trunk of a car after you had been kidnapped. We got to visit him once before he passed. He had pictures of Sally Rand, a local madam (she coined the phrase "What a business. You got it. You sell it. You still got it."). It was a heady place back during Prohibition too.

Some of very very earliest Dashiell Hammett detective stories, starring the "Continental Op," partly took place in 1920s Sausalito. Hammett (true to life) described it as a place where rumrunners and gangsters hid out, where the police had no authority, where every other building was a bordello or a smuggling depot, and where gunbattles between crooks raged on the waterfront.

All this talk about polls got me thinking, and my husband just reminded me of something.

If any of y'all haven't checked it out, look at some of Wizbang's work on the polls. Re-indexing many of them by 2006 numbers shows McCain a whole lot closer than even "friendly" polls like Rasmussen. So why the discrepancy?

Of course, there is the factor of ACORN registering a lot of "ghost voters" who are factored in by professional pollsters when weighting polls, but who don't show up on Election Day. But my husband also reminded me: A lot of pollsters by the conventions of the industry have to factor in the numbers from the primary when doing their weighting. Democrat attendance in the primaries in 2008 set records. By the conventions of the polling industry, this has to translate into record voting numbers by Democrats, and the polls are weighted accordingly.

But we all recall the primaries. For the Republicans, it was mostly decided before Texas. The Dems duked it out to the bitter end, egged on by the operatives of Operation Chaos. I think this lured what I call "double dips" to the primaries---people who normally vote for Democrats in the general election but skip primaries. Because they didn't skip this primary, they are weighed as a gain in Democrat votes. But Democrats can't gain what they already had. So essentially, these guys are counted twice when calculating the percentage of projected Democrat voters.

In order to maintain consistency in polling, polling orgs have to follow certain conventions when gathering, sorting, and weighting data. This is a matter of weighting apples. You can't just throw an orange in the mix by tossing out 2008 primary data and weighting your numbers with a more "normal" year like 2000, 2004, or 2006. The pollsters who do internal polling for candidates are not so restricted. This is why I think it is more helpful to watch how the campaigns are behaving than watching the professional polls. From what I am seeing, McCain's numbers are better than we think IMHO.

re: #227 rawmuse

Nice. I can ride my bike there in an hour or so. Yeah, California just sucks, alright. :)

Wish I could say I admire California, but my only practical experience with California living comes from multiple rotations of National Training Center at Fort Irwin. From my perspective California is sand, rocks, sand, more rocks. Did I mention sand?

re: #235 eddiespaghetti

Got it. I'm a big fan of the first two albums. Dickinson may or may not be the better singer, but I prefer the music from the first two.

re: #243 zombie

OK, Z, here is a local trivia question for you.
Name the eccentric millionaire that had his own man made island home anchored in Richardson Bay.

re: #245 Outrider

Ft Irwin? Ouch. That might be worse than 29 Palms. Seriously, though, there are a lot of beautiful places here.

re: #243 zombie

Some of very very earliest Dashiell Hammett detective stories, starring the "Continental Op," partly took place in 1920s Sausalito. Hammett (true to life) described it as a place where rumrunners and gangsters hid out, where the police had no authority, where every other building was a bordello or a smuggling depot, and where gunbattles between crooks raged on the waterfront.

Gotta love the Bay Area - what a diverse and rich history - much still in the making.

re: #239 Steel Turman

The American voter is stupid - but not that stupid.

Not yet.

Stay tuned.

I agree.

re: #248 Pvt Bin Jammin

Ft Irwin? Ouch. That might be worse than 29 Palms. Seriously, though, there are a lot of beautiful places here.

29 Palms just down the road a piece from Irwin ain't it?

I wonder if San Francisco lets zombies get married.

re: #247 rawmuse

OK, Z, here is a local trivia question for you.
Name the eccentric millionaire that had his own man made island home anchored in Richardson Bay.

here's another .... who's got one drifting around and is turning it into a new country?

re: #253 Fearless Fred

Tom Perkins.

re: #252 Moe Katz

I think in SF they will let anything get married. All part of their free think. Personally I think their minds have been so open for so long their brains just evaporated.

re: #247 rawmuse

OK, Z, here is a local trivia question for you.
Name the eccentric millionaire that had his own man made island home anchored in Richardson Bay.

Forbes!

re: #256 zombie

Forbes!

Damn, you're good!

Forbe's Island, now a restaurant.

re: #251 Outrider

Not far at all. I've never been to Ft. Irwin but 20 yrs ago my hubby and I bought a rental property in 29 Palms (we thought the town was going to boom). LOL Trying to unload that property. It looks like the lunar landscape to me and I grew up in the desert in Northern Nevada.....much different.

Outrider, before you leave and we lose context and connection, I just wanted you to know I wrote that book...