Let's flip a coin.

It will swing. The trick is to hop on at the bottom and off at the top. Or to tough it out until things get level.

Up, Up and away

Asked on the other threat. When the credit markets open tomorrow, what will the effect be?

He is...The One.

It is a Holiday - factor that in. But, if it goes up further, we are off to the races and it is time to start buy'in.

Did someone say OVER 9000!?

The volatility in the markets reminds me of 2001.

As the conquering general advanced through Rome on his chariot for his Triumph the crowd shouted and flowers were strewn before him. A slave stood behind him holding a crown and whispering "This to shall pass."

Superball?

More like Happy Fun Ball - and you must remember not to taunt the happy fun ball.

re: #4 midwestgak

Asked on the other threat. When the credit markets open tomorrow, what will the effect be?

Now I'm wondering if we're going to have the rate cut the Fed should make. I haz a sneaking suspicion things are still wobbly. People are buying with the same sense of emotion that they sold with, the past couple of weeks.

Crap, going OT -

Charles, I'm getting emails from people about some court case in Pennsylvania, centered on Obama's birth certificate, his supposedly being born in Mombasa, Kenya, certified copes of a Kenyan birth certificate, etc. In your humble opinion, is all this BS?

re: #10 lifeofthemind

Then the conquering general had the slave executed.

/Well, that's what I would do.

My crystal ball is busted, but my guess is the latter. Sucker's rally. More socialism doesn't cure anything. Except freedom, that is: If freedom is your problem, socialism is the time-tested cure.

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

I'm not Charles, but it's bullshit, the guy driving this, Berg is a troofer.

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

I recall Charles wasn't interested in the birth certificate hunts (mostly because it's BS).

The One: - "With the return of market stabilization, now we can once again focus on the plague of out times: Global Warming. I have a plan to lower the tempature of our oceans that begins with the free exercise of my will to do so - so it is written, so it shall be done..."

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

[Link: hotair.com...]

The markets will find a new ceiling over the next week, it will be above 10k is my wager.

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Superball economy; boingy boingy boingy.

Gee, I remember when the super ball first came on the market. We were impressed. No, make that wowed.

re: #11 lawhawk

If Happy Funball begins to smoke, cover head and run away

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

Crap, going OT -

Charles, I'm getting emails from people about some court case in Pennsylvania, centered on Obama's birth certificate, his supposedly being born in Mombasa, Kenya, certified copes of a Kenyan birth certificate, etc. In your humble opinion, is all this BS?

I ain't Charles but the guy doing it, Phillip Berg, is a troofer...

re: #16 Thanos

I'm not Charles, but it's bullshit, the guy driving this, Berg is a troofer.

And a Hillary supporter... something similar was being pushed by Larry Johnson...

re: #18 wright1

The One: - "With the return of market stabilization, now we can once again focus on the plague of out times: Global Warming. I have a plan to lower the tempature of our oceans that begins with the free exercise of my will to do so - so it is written, so it shall be done..."

Behold, his mighty hand!

Volumes are kind of light and the bond market is closed. But if I knew which way the market was headed, do you think I'd be hanging around here? In any event, it's been exciting if you're a momentum trader.

TURNAROUND! Everybody back in the market!

I like Drudge's little klaxon/siren/whatever in the upper left.

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, but Mom objected when I played with it in the basement on rainy days. Wonder why?

re: #22 WitchDoctor

If Happy Funball begins to smoke, cover head and run away

Do not look directly at Happy Fun Ball (or your 401k)

re: #17 joncelli

I recall Charles wasn't interested in the birth certificate hunts (mostly because it's BS).

I knew that, that's why I was asking.

Stay Dow, stay... Good boy!

re: #24 lawhawk

Yep, and most of the sites you find this on have LJ in the sidebar too.

I think it is appropriate that Obama has a campaign logo that is of a slippery slope leading into a hole.

My guess is there will be more dropping before the bottom is hit. Especially if the Big Zero wins.

Better take a Dramamine...

re: #25 Ward Cleaver

Behold, his mighty hand!

I'd like to give him the back of my hand.

re: #20 Thanos

The markets will find a new ceiling over the next week, it will be above 10k is my wager.

I hope not. If it is, it will mean the market has come unhinged from the real economy. The conditions that sent us into this tailspin are still out there: All those hollowed-out mortgage-backed CDOs, etc.

Fake buoyance is not ideal.

re: #29 joncelli

Yeah, but Mom objected when I played with it in the basement on rainy days. Wonder why?

That, taken by itself, is too much information!

re: #23 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I ain't Charles but the guy doing it, Phillip Berg, is a troofer...

That's great. I figured since he was supposedly a life-time Dem, he had to be a Hillary supporter.

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Superball economy; boingy boingy boingy.

One word ... flubber

re: #36 Dark_Falcon

I'd like to give him the back of my hand.

SLAP!

- OW!

re: #29 joncelli

Yeah, but Mom objected when I played with it in the basement on rainy days. Wonder why?

Something about going blind or growing hair on your palm.

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

Crap, going OT -

Charles, I'm getting emails from people about some court case in Pennsylvania, centered on Obama's birth certificate, his supposedly being born in Mombasa, Kenya, certified copes of a Kenyan birth certificate, etc. In your humble opinion, is all this BS?

The guy's official website:
[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

re: #39 Ward Cleaver

That's great. I figured since he was supposedly a life-time Dem, he had to be a Hillary supporter.

Are you saying Obama supporters are only fair-weather Dems? And normally they vote for the Green Party or something, if they vote? :-)

Dow closes at 9387.61, up 936.42, an 11.08 percent gain. In other news, the site of my IRA provider is on its knees.

So many baby boomers have so much money they need to park somewhere that they, combined with the day trading gamblers will cause larger swings daily than we had before.
Computer trades kick in every AM and whenever a certain number is reached.
I'm going to try to roll with it and adjust to the idea of it.
1/3rd of all the stocks I ever bought I owned before the DOW hit 1,000.
Another 1/3rd before it hit 3,000.
This is going to throw a monkey wrench into the idea of personal retirement accounts in place of social security, though, isn't it?

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

Gee, I remember when the super ball first came on the market. We were impressed. No, make that wowed.

Yes, we were young with wonder. I played with mine for about a week. The bounce was big but it was anyone's quess in which way.

um, Charles, I just saw on Fox that it is the 5th biggest percentage gain but the largest pt gain.

just a minor correction to your headline.

re: #42 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Something about going blind or growing hair on your palm.

I see the wacking has started. Don't we usually wait for Mandy?

re: #29 joncelli

Yeah, but Mom objected when I played with it in the basement on rainy days. Wonder why?

Thump, thump, thump...?

I just remember how insanely high they would go, when you bounced them off of the sidewalk. A technological leap.

re: #38 saberry0530

[Face palm] Yes, I should have known better.

/Sheesh, so much for innocent childhood memories.

Dow: 9398.76

re: #37 Cognito

The beancounters have it factored in already, they think a year ahead. I keep trying to tell people that while everyone is acting surprised, nobody but the general public really was. It was just a question of how hard was the chain going to be yanked...
The depth and breadth of the world economy is now so vast that no one sector can sag it very long.

re: #46 mean Gene

This is going to throw a monkey wrench into the idea of personal retirement accounts in place of social security, though, isn't it?

Sadly

re: #46 mean Gene

I've always thought that could easily part of the grand new welfare state plan.

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

I see the wacking has started. Don't we usually wait for Mandy?

She was just here. Well, not here, here.

The markets are radioactive and convulsing heavily. The VIX (volatility index) is an unheard of 70+/- It is a sign of extreme sickness.

Stay away unless you have money to burn. Just watch as people win and lose fortunes.

Buy low. Sell high. that's all I know.

and according to some - Buy Tuesday.

re: #37 Cognito

I hope not. If it is, it will mean the market has come unhinged from the real economy. The conditions that sent us into this tailspin are still out there: All those hollowed-out mortgage-backed CDOs, etc.

Fake buoyance is not ideal.

New ceiling? That's the top of the market. That means prices aren't going to go above that price point. I happen to agree that prices are likely to stabilize around 10k.

I think you're thinking of a new floor above 10k, which means that there's sufficient support to keep the DJIA above 10k.

Part of the problem is that we're looking at different parts of the financial community - credit versus equity. The credit markets suck because of all the toxic paper, but many companies are in good shape- though they're going to feel squeezed because of a lack of credit to keep expanding or investing in new business ops, or purchasing retail for sales upcoming, etc.

We may be coming into a market that is more fairly valued; some good values out there, some still overpriced, and some fairly valued. I still think there's some shaking out to be had...

Rove's plan to awaken voters to the dangers of an Obama presidency combined with a Pelosi-Reid congress is working perfectly.

Excellent. *tents fingers, touches indexes to lips*

Later this week they'll be announcing one of the largest COLA adjustments to SS in history btw.

re: #63 Thanos

Later this week they'll be announcing one of the largest COLA adjustments to SS in history btw.

Really? Link?

MSM headlines tomorrow:

"Dow Sees Record Rise as Markets Cheer Obama Economic Plan"

"Obama Economic Plan Calms Investors, Dow Soars Above 9,000"

"Obama Calls on DOJ to Investigate McCain Rally for Hate Crimes."

"Oakland Raiders Fire Interim Coach Cable After One Game"

re: #62 Hucbald

Rove's plan to awaken voters to the dangers of an Obama presidency combined with a Pelosi-Reid congress is working perfectly.

Excellent. *tents fingers, touches indexes to lips*

Rove, Rove, he's our man! If can't do it, no one can! I know it's corny, but Carl Rove is the best man we've got when it comes to hammering the Dems.

re: #65 Rednek

Really? Link?

[Link: finance.yahoo.com...]

Of course they have to make it bad news someway...

At 4 pm ET, the Dow index is up more than 900 points, for one of the biggest percentage gains in history. The question now is, will it stay there or will the yo-yo swing back down tomorrow?

Actually the question I have is: Since they have been blaming "the worst economic down turn in history" on McCain (why not Bush) will they now credit McCain for the upturn!

OT:

LA County is on fire.

re: #66 RaiderDan

MSM headlines tomorrow:

"Dow Sees Record Rise as Markets Cheer Obama Economic Plan"

"Obama Economic Plan Calms Investors, Dow Soars Above 9,000"

"Obama Calls on DOJ to Investigate McCain Rally for Hate Crimes."

"Oakland Raiders Fire Interim Coach Cable After One Game"

Real third headline: "DOJ tells Obama to pound sand, indicts ACORN.)

re: #69 WrathofG-d

Actually the question I have is: Since they have been blaming "the worst economic down turn in history" on McCain (why not Bush) will they now credit McCain for the upturn!

OT:

LA County is on fire.

Again?

We have managed to overcome both the Bull and the Bear.
Welcome to the Lemming Market!

"When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide
And I stop and I turn and I go for a ride
And I get to the bottom and I see you again..."

Checked my 401(k). I'm down $17k as of end of business Friday. Hope the swing continues.

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Yup. Where I am the entire sky is orange, and ash is everywhere.

re: #72 CyanSnowHawk

We have managed to overcome both the Bull and the Bear.
Welcome to the Lemming Market!

The Stampeding Herd Market

There must be something in that West Palm Beach water.

Melt up.

We're all rich and we're all getting free stuff!
Yippeee!

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

I hope that does not make us the flubbees.

No...flubberers.

BTW - I haven't seen this posted, but Charlie Gaspirino had a good write-up on the Obama Tax plan and how it may be contributing to the market's recent woes.

Here is a sample passage that struck me:

Some reckon that a President Obama won't go through with his plans. They look at his (thin) record and see a wimp who's never taken a firm stand on much of anything, much less enacting tax hikes during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

I look at Obama's record differently. From his days as a community activist, to his years in the Illinois Senate and now his brief time in the US Senate, he has shown little inclination to deviate from his party's tax-and-spend orthodoxy.

re: #72 CyanSnowHawk

We have managed to overcome both the Bull and the Bear.
Welcome to the Lemming Market!

Quick...Copyright that.

re: #79 Schwarze Tulpe

Melt up.

Reverse Crash

The Magic Eight Ball says...
"reply hazy...ask again later"

I stayed in and bought more Friday. Not anything I couldn't afford to lose, but nothing to sneeze at either. I'm a long term investor class, I only buy once or twice a year.

Way, way back yonder (I disremember the exact year but it was sometime between '72 and '75) I won some small measure of fame and a whole case of beer by predicting that the Dow would close above 900. The fame was fleeting, while I still carry a 6 pack or two around my waist.

My question for you is...Is today's America really ten times wealthier than it was 30+ years ago? If so, why?

And isn't it surprising that we've managed to reach these lofty plateaus while handcuffed by 8 years of Reagan, 4 years of Bush 41, and 8 years of Bush 43. After all, these people are generally agreed to be amiable dunces at best, and worser that Hitler as well.

Ah well, I suppose that it proves that only four short years of Carter and 8 glourious years of our first Black president can cure most any financial ailment.

It's time to run, but thought I'd leave a little something for all of us worried because we're a bit behind in the campaign right now:

We Few, We Happy Few

And yes, the guy who gave this speech won.

re: #13 Ward Cleaver

Crap, going OT -

Charles, I'm getting emails from people about some court case in Pennsylvania, centered on Obama's birth certificate, his supposedly being born in Mombasa, Kenya, certified copes of a Kenyan birth certificate, etc. In your humble opinion, is all this BS?

Here's a link to the filings or whatever. I am not a Legal Lizard, so I don't know what any of that stuff really means.

Personally, I think it's BS.

re: #75 WrathofG-d

Yup. Where I am the entire sky is orange, and ash is everywhere.

LA County actually got off light last year, didnt they? I was down in SD for those fires. I think there were some others way up North, but I dont recall LA County having it that bad last year.

re: #75 WrathofG-d

Yup. Where I am the entire sky is orange, and ash is everywhere.

Sounds like Hell or as its known on LGF, an Obama rally.

Kidding aside, good luck to you, hope the fire doesn't reach where you live.

Meanwhile...

Obama's plan for redistribution of wealth

re: #61 lawhawk
you are absolutely right. Those two parts of the financial market get hit by issues that shouldn't affect them. But when computers trade instead of people, that's what happens. In general, most lizards seem to me to have a far greater understanding of the markets than the general public. If I were stumbling around for advice, I think I would do better here than at a big brokerage house.

re: #86 razorbacker

Way, way back yonder (I disremember the exact year but it was sometime between '72 and '75) I won some small measure of fame and a whole case of beer by predicting that the Dow would close above 900. The fame was fleeting, while I still carry a 6 pack or two around my waist.

My question for you is...Is today's America really ten times wealthier than it was 30+ years ago? If so, why?

And isn't it surprising that we've managed to reach these lofty plateaus while handcuffed by 8 years of Reagan, 4 years of Bush 41, and 8 years of Bush 43. After all, these people are generally agreed to be amiable dunces at best, and worser that Hitler as well.

Ah well, I suppose that it proves that only four short years of Carter and 8 glourious years of our first Black president can cure most any financial ailment.

Remember, too, that Gingrich & Co. controlled the legeslative agenda for 6 of the 8 Clinton years

re: #74 Noam Sayin'

Checked my 401(k). I'm down $17k as of end of business Friday. Hope the swing continues.

I don't wanna say the markets are volatile these days, but my broker says I now have a 401(k-boom).

And the answer is: it doesn't matter. Ultimately, prices will fall in line with earnings, as they always do. As Ben Graham said, in the short term the market is a voting machine, but in the long term it is a weighing machine.

We're going to see a lot of yo-yoing for awhile. Strapped in?

re: #92 Sizzlack

Meanwhile...

Obama's plan for redistribution of wealth

Sounds like Comrade Barack's new 5-Year Plan, fresh from the Central Committee

Spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody ... Lord Obama

I am loving Neil Cavuto ... he is not taking this guys crap on tv right now.

re: #61 lawhawk

New ceiling? That's the top of the market. That means prices aren't going to go above that price point. I happen to agree that prices are likely to stabilize around 10k.

I think you're thinking of a new floor above 10k, which means that there's sufficient support to keep the DJIA above 10k.

Part of the problem is that we're looking at different parts of the financial community - credit versus equity. The credit markets suck because of all the toxic paper, but many companies are in good shape- though they're going to feel squeezed because of a lack of credit to keep expanding or investing in new business ops, or purchasing retail for sales upcoming, etc.

We may be coming into a market that is more fairly valued; some good values out there, some still overpriced, and some fairly valued. I still think there's some shaking out to be had...

There are way too many issues going on here. One day of historic gains means very little in setting a ceiling or floor. The volatility is just unbelievable. Last week the hedge funds were dropping shares like Obama does his friends, but one interesting question is who is driving this today?

While, governments around the world have been offering support both in deed and action, credit remains unbelievably tight. Once credit availability loosens up, we can speculate a bit further. Me thinks there are enough recessionary indicators to be wary even if the credit crunch abates. Whether it will be short/long lived is anybody's guess

re: #92 Sizzlack

Fortunately, with this uptick in the market, Obama will have much more wealth to redistribute.

Confucious Say: Only enter roller coaster at bottom

re: #102 faraway

Confucious Say: Only enter roller coaster at bottom

Otherwise, it's dollar averaging.

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Yes for what I remember LA County fires were pretty light last year (which is probably why we are paying for it this year) But now that I've said that I'm going to hear from someone around here who was affected last year.

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

I am pretty sure I'll be ok. I wonder if I can blame these fires on the Democrat controlled state congress, or other liberal majority politicians I have in this state.

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Again?

Still?

re: #98 Desert Dog

All hail the glorious 5-year plan of the great socialist leader! Or somethin'!

/Just practicing.

re: #102 faraway

Confucious Say: Only enter roller coaster at bottom

OldLineTexan say bottom of rollercoaster also only safe exit. Man who exit at top of rollercoaster rediscover gravity.

Needs a new analogy!

/

Many a talk show host have said that the polls that favor Obama also show that more Democrats have been polled than Republicans. How can I find the polling stats to see this for myself? Too many stupid links on those polling websites.

re: #105 poopeedoo

Still?

How do you tell the difference?

There are some very happy day traders out there today.

OT: Palin draws crowd of 30,000+ at Richmond International Speedway

From HC Forum Thread

re: #88 Slumbering Behemoth

Lots more info here:

[Link: www.obamacrimes.com...]

its amazing that NONE of this is in the MSM...
/sarc

re: #108 bosforus

Many a talk show host have said that the polls that favor Obama also show that more Democrats have been polled than Republicans. How can I find the polling stats to see this for myself? Too many stupid links on those polling websites.

I have noted this before - not everyone agrees to be a part of the sample. I often wonder whether & how this may skew the results.

re: #111 Intrepid

OT: Palin draws crowd of 30,000+ at Richmond International Speedway

From HC Forum Thread

Quickly, find a jackass or two, or there will be nothing newsworthy.

re: #102 faraway

Confucious Say: Only enter roller coaster at bottom

Confucious say: Neva exit rorrer coasta at top

I am sorry to anyone who likes Kristol ... but I wish he would STFU ... tell McCain to himself if you have something to say ...

re: #102 faraway

Confucious Say: Only enter roller coaster at bottom

Here's once for "the One"

Fine words and an insinuating appearance are seldom associated with true virtue. - Confucius

"That's not the Dow I wanted knew"

re: #115 taxfreekiller

happy, happy, happy,

thank you msm for your doom and gloom lies and fraud, could not have done it without you

Which doom and gloom do you mean?

re: #111 Intrepid

When Obama got a Trillion people to come here him ascend a pyramid to a Roman stage, didn't the MSM use it to promote his wonderfullness, and fantastifabulousuperiorness?

How pissed is the MSM right now?

re: #120 Cognito

Which doom and gloom do you mean?

The lies and fraud part you're OK with?

/sorry, I had to...it was teed up

re: #117 JacksonTn

Kristol has his moments, but he has always been kind of a jackass that way.

Meanwhile, instead of temporary tax rebates all over again — after the first package did nothing earlier this year — John McCain should be yelling at the top of his lungs for permanently lower tax rates across-the-board. Let people keep their own money instead of hanging on the dole from government.

C’mon, Big Mac. Get moving. The clock is ticking.

Tick tock big guy.

As a professional in the financial services industry, I implore all of you to not pay attention to the day to day. Work with a planner, (CRPC, or CFP,) and stick to the disciplined plan put into place. Use Dollar Cost Averaging, Asset Allocation, Rebalancing, and for God's sake, turn off the T.V. If you follow this advice, you will be grateful in the future.

re: #113 unreconstructed rebel

I have noted this before - not everyone agrees to be a part of the sample. I often wonder whether & how this may skew the results.

Well, all it takes is a little multiplication to find the weighted average. And that's all I want to do, just crunch the numbers myself since apparently radio talk shows don't employ anyone with any math skills.

re: #122 Ben Hur

How much down are we from when this all started?

(ie: we might have gone up 900 but were we down 10,000?)

And one for McCain

The superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions. -Confucius

re: #89 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LA County actually got off light last year, didnt they? I was down in SD for those fires. I think there were some others way up North, but I dont recall LA County having it that bad last year.

I was watching the KTLA coverage this morning while getting ready for work. It has a good chance of being just as bad as what we had down in San Diego last year and in '03. The Santa Ana condition is not expected to break until late Wed. and until then it will drive those fires with a near unstoppable force during the day.

Note: A Santa Ana condition is an extremely dry weather condition, with humidity generally in single digits. It is also notable for high winds blowing from the desert to the ocean, a reverse of the usual coastal condition in Southern California. IIRC, it is officially a Santa Ana when the coastal temps are higher than the inland temps. It is typically caused by a high pressure system setting up over the Great Basin area (NV and UT).

re: #94 DeafDog

Remember, too, that Gingrich & Co. controlled the legeslative agenda for 6 of the 8 Clinton years

Now see, you sharpen my point. So it really was only 4 years of Carter and only 2, yes friends, 2 short years of our first Black president's rule.

This hopey, changiness feels sooo goood. I want my free stuff, too.

'Sides, it doesn't cost anything. Not like we're going to have to pay the bills.

I suspect however, that future generations of Americans will dig us up out of our graves in order to be able to p*ss in our faces.

Not that we won't deserve it.

Cremation is looking pretty good right now.

re: #122 Ben Hur

How pissed is the MSM right now?

Are you kidding? When the market tanked, advertising came to a screeching halt. No one hopes for a recovery more than the people whose livelihoods depend on economic movement.

Somehow, my 401k AND my Roth IRA both dropped today. Sigh.

Someone asked about this before but I can't find the flyers the Obama campaign sent out but here is his plans for Bush, et al. if he is elected. I would say Bush/Cheney better get busy.

***

Here's his answer, in its entirety:

What I would want to do is to have my Justice Department and my Attorney General immediately review the information that's already there and to find out are there inquiries that need to be pursued. I can't prejudge that because we don't have access to all the material right now. I think that you are right, if crimes have been committed, they should be investigated. You're also right that I would not want my first term consumed by what was perceived on the part of Republicans as a partisan witch hunt because I think we've got too many problems we've got to solve.

So this is an area where I would want to exercise judgment -- I would want to find out directly from my Attorney General -- having pursued, having looked at what's out there right now -- are there possibilities of genuine crimes as opposed to really bad policies. And I think it's important-- one of the things we've got to figure out in our political culture generally is distinguishing betyween really dumb policies and policies that rise to the level of criminal activity. You know, I often get questions about impeachment at town hall meetings and I've said that is not something I think would be fruitful to pursue because I think that impeachment is something that should be reserved for exceptional circumstances. Now, if I found out that there were high officials who knowingly, consciously broke existing laws, engaged in coverups of those crimes with knowledge forefront, then I think a basic principle of our Constitution is nobody above the law -- and I think that's roughly how I would look at it.

The bottom line is that: Obama sent a clear signal that -- unlike impeachment, which he's ruled out and which now seems a practical impossibility -- he is at the least open to the possibility of investigating potential high crimes in the Bush White House. To many, the information that waterboarding -- which the United States has considered torture and a violation of law in the past -- was openly planned out in the seat of American government is evidence enough to at least start asking some tough questions in January 2009.

re: #126 flyovercountry

As a professional in the financial services industry, I implore all of you to not pay attention to the day to day. Work with a planner, (CRPC, or CFP,) and stick to the disciplined plan put into place. Use Dollar Cost Averaging, Asset Allocation, Rebalancing, and for God's sake, turn off the T.V. If you follow this advice, you will be grateful in the future.

As a fellow financial professional, I ditto Flyover's comments.

re: #128 WrathofG-d

How much down are we from when this all started?

(ie: we might have gone up 900 but were we down 10,000?)

Don't know.

Let me put a call into the Elders.

re: #134 eff

Somehow, my 401k AND my Roth IRA both dropped today. Sigh.

Wow. Did you have everything in... gold?

re: #134 eff

You should really think about dropping that Enron and Amalgamated Buggy Whip stock you are holding, it is not coming back...

Does this mean that Israel has to give back the $400 Billion dollars whisked out of Lehman right before the fall?

re: #112 PISSED

Sorry, not buying the Berg brand Kool-Aid. I'm sticking with Icehouse, thanks.

re: #137 Ben Hur

You think the goyim want to know where we are going to have it all stop?

Actually, nah, I'd probably lose the ZOG promotion I got a couple months ago if I gave away that secret.

I know someone that shorted gold.

Smart fellow.

re: #131 taxfreekiller

#111

MSM Head Line on that.

"Palin draws huge white only crowd."

So? We already know all the blacks are voting for Obama ... the msm is done.

From Sizzlak's WSJ link...

For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase "tax credit." Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals:

- A $500 tax credit ($1,000 a couple) to "make work pay" that phases out at income of $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 per couple.

- A $4,000 tax credit for college tuition.

- A 10% mortgage interest tax credit (on top of the existing mortgage interest deduction and other housing subsidies).

- A "savings" tax credit of 50% up to $1,000.

- An expansion of the earned-income tax credit that would allow single workers to receive as much as $555 a year, up from $175 now, and give these workers up to $1,110 if they are paying child support.

- A child care credit of 50% up to $6,000 of expenses a year.

- A "clean car" tax credit of up to $7,000 on the purchase of certain vehicles.

Here's the political catch. All but the clean car credit would be "refundable," which is Washington-speak for the fact that you can receive these checks even if you have no income-tax liability. In other words, they are an income transfer -- a federal check -- from taxpayers to nontaxpayers. Once upon a time we called this "welfare," or in George McGovern's 1972 campaign a "Demogrant." Mr. Obama's genius is to call it a tax cut.

re: #37 Cognito

I hope not. If it is, it will mean the market has come unhinged from the real economy. The conditions that sent us into this tailspin are still out there: All those hollowed-out mortgage-backed CDOs, etc.

Fake buoyance is not ideal.

With the EU and the US governments pumping billions...no, wait...TRILLIONS to recapitalize banks it's not a fake rally. It may not be long lived because I personally believe that we are only forestalling the inevitable and that some banks must be allowed to fail.

What I want to know is - Can I get recapitalized? Pretty sweet.

re: #134 eff

Somehow, my 401k AND my Roth IRA both dropped today. Sigh.

If you are in mutual funds, then the value of those funds reflects Friday's closing prices. Also, just because the DOW is up does not mean your stock is up...it depends on what you own. The Dow is an index.

re: #140 Ben Hur

I've heard that there were no Jews in Wall Street at the time of the crash!

Letterbox Lady in Gaza hopes to fulfill dream of killing Jewish children...
Suicide bomber speaks out

re: #127 bosforus

Well, all it takes is a little multiplication to find the weighted average. And that's all I want to do, just crunch the numbers myself since apparently radio talk shows don't employ anyone with any math skills.

I meant to say that I wonder if those refusing to be sampled are statistically equivalent to those who are, or do refusees have a preference? I certainly do, but statistical samples of one can be misleading. ;-)

re: #131 taxfreekiller

#111

MSM Head Line on that.

"Palin draws huge angry white only crowd."

FTFY

re: #133 Cognito

Are you kidding? When the market tanked, advertising came to a screeching halt. No one hopes for a recovery more than the people whose livelihoods depend on economic movement.

You know what I mean, Cog.

Roll with it.

Plus, those MSM types donate extra taxes out of principle.

They'll be fine either way.

re: #141 Slumbering Behemoth

That works... : )

I dont know who to believe, i just look at the people that want to jam obama down my throat .. from the MSM to hollyweird and I DONT LIKE IT!

re: #153 Ben Hur

Andrea Mitchell is doing fine.

re: #149 WrathofG-d

I've heard that there were no Jews in Wall Street at the time of the crash!

LOL!

re: #146 Scion9

Pretty scary eh?

re: #134 eff

Somehow, my 401k AND my Roth IRA both dropped today. Sigh.

Are you in funds? Patience - I notice they tend to lag a bit.

YEA!
Got my McCain/Palin yard sign today. Gonna take a walk to see how many others got theirs. Neighbor next door got one.

re: #134 eff

Somehow, my 401k AND my Roth IRA both dropped today. Sigh.

I'm not looking

re: #114 OldLineTexan

Quickly, find a jackass or two, or there will be nothing newsworthy.

How about what this guy did? Just a nice man, minding his own business, happens to catch some nasty stuff on video at Mac/Sarah event?

Actually an Obama supporter, with a past conviction of trying to pick up minors on the Net

re: #160 newsjunkie_ky

YEA!
Got my McCain/Palin yard sign today. Gonna take a walk to see how many others got theirs. Neighbor next door got one.

I've seen more McCain signs here in my working class neighborhood too. It's amazing!

Sadly- one yard's sign is gone. I think it was stolen.

re: #148 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

If you are in mutual funds, then the value of those funds reflects Friday's closing prices. Also, just because the DOW is up does not mean your stock is up...it depends on what you own. The Dow is an index.

Of only 30 industrial stocks. Although there is a pretty loose definition of industrials.

Now, what did the S&P 500 or the Russell 2000 do?

re: #117 JacksonTn

I am sorry to anyone who likes Kristol ... but I wish he would STFU ... tell McCain to himself if you have something to say ...

Kristol, Krauthammer and the rest are trying to position themselves as the 'smart guy' if McCain loses...Like, "If only the campaign had listened to me..."

I like them better than most of the talking heads, but I'm sick of their positioning BS, too.

re: #136 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

As a fellow financial professional, I ditto Flyover's comments.

If I understood what he said, I'd do it.

///not a finance guy :>}

I sense Cog typing away furiously at his computer.

I was being sarcastic, Cog.

Oh shit. After you typed all that, too!

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Can I use the see-werd? I wanna use the see-werd. What a sick [redacted]!

I have not looked at my IRA, nor will I.

re: #168 Slumbering Behemoth

Where did you find your avitar?

re: #139 Desert Dog

You should really think about dropping that Enron and Amalgamated Buggy Whip stock you are holding, it is not coming back...

AsbestosRUs, Inc. isn't doing too well lately, either.

First, the government is suckered into spending unlimited money into propping up the usual suspects- builds confidence.
Second, the prices of many stocks suggest it is a good time to buy. Yes, they may go somewhat lower, but the real issue is whether the buyer is going to hold them for some time or flip them. Some big ticket investors have patience and realize the return five years from now.

More importantly, if you think the media is in the tank for Obama you better believe they are more in the tank for selling financial rebound and fiscal stability. They need advertising dollars and retailer ads, etc., or they tank.

re: #18 wright1

The One: - "With the return of market stabilization, now we can once again focus on the plague of out times: Global Warming. I have a plan to lower the tempature of our oceans that begins with the free exercise of my will to do so - so it is written, so it shall be done..."

He obviously doesn't read the Old Farmer's Almanac.

Doug Hathaway, a solar physicist at NASA, believes that solar activity has diminished and will continue to do so for decades. In 2006, he predicted, based on observations of the slowing of the plasma flow on the Sun, that cycle 25 could be the quietest—thus, the coolest—in centuries. Also in that year, Khabibullo Abdusamatov, head of research for the Russian Academy of Sciences, issued an imminent mini-ice age warning based on expectations of a quieter Sun over the next 50 years. Our long-range forecasts also point toward cooling conditions.

These factors—the cooling Pacific, the yet-to-cool Atlantic, and the historical reduction in recent solar activity—suggest that a staggered cooling period could continue. Absent from most headlines about global warming is a discussion of measures suggesting that the warming has ceased and a cooling may have begun. For example, deep-ocean heat content has not increased during the past five years. Looking at just one year, from January 2007 to January 2008, we find that satellite-derived atmospheric temperatures indicate that Earth was about one degree Fahrenheit cooler at the beginning of 2008 than it was at the beginning of 2007. The United Kingdom's Hadley Centre ocean and land temperature records show cooling in the last seven to ten years.

During the past 100 years, while temperatures have risen and fallen and risen yet again, carbon dioxide has been on a steady climb (see graph)—and, for that, mankind does bear some responsibility. However, we would be wise to also consider the cycles and synchronicity of the Sun and oceans in any discussion of the causes of climate change.

Go read the whole thing.

re: #168 Slumbering Behemoth

Nah, it's in the filter. I tried to use it this morning.

re: #155 Sharmuta

Andrea Mitchell is doing fine.

I cannot wait to see footage of her in her padded cell on Nov. 5

Racism is moving the market up.

re: #156 Ben Hur

Where is Iowahawk? I think I just inadvertently pitched him an idea.

re: #155 Sharmuta
she's got her hubby's butt to cover
figuratively
/

re: #164 razorbacker

Of only 30 industrial stocks. Although there is a pretty loose definition of industrials.

Now, what did the S&P 500 or the Russell 2000 do?

DJIA, S&P 500, and Nasdaq all up over 11% today.

Options implied volatilities are going through the roof.
Great time for calendar spreads (if you know what those are).

re: #132 razorbacker

Obama doesn't want to just reverse the last 30 years...he wants to turn back the clock from 1776.

Seriously, his crap about returning to our "best traditions"...what does that mean? Welfare is our best tradition?

re: #176 Ben Hur

Trying to prove to the world that they aren't racist, Wall Street decided to go black.

re: #181 DeafDog

Obama doesn't want to just reverse the last 30 years...he wants to turn back the clock from 1776.

Seriously, his crap about returning to our "best traditions"...what does that mean? Welfare is our best tradition?

1776 - The "original sin" according to Obama.

We'll see some selling tomorrow but probably end up the day modestly higher. Not out of the woods by a long shot but my portfolio thanks all the traders for playing nice today.

re: #180 looking closely

Great time for calendar spreads (if you know what those are).

Like Pamela Anderson or Jenny McCarthy?

re: #151 unreconstructed rebel

I meant to say that I wonder if those refusing to be sampled are statistically equivalent to those who are, or do refusees have a preference? I certainly do, but statistical samples of one can be misleading. ;-)

Ah, gotcha. And yes, statistics can be misleading. It's definitely the most abused field of science come election time.

Any Columbus Day themed speeches from the candidates today?

re: #167 Ben Hur

I sense Cog typing away furiously at his computer.

I was being sarcastic, Cog.

Oh shit. After you typed all that, too!

Not at all -- I'm busy counting all my cash!

re: #187 Ben Hur

Any Columbus Day themed speeches from the candidates today?

Or maybe Paddington Bear?

re: #154 PISSED

Careful, this ain't a pr0n site buddy.
/I am kidding

I don't think there is gonna be any shocking revelation tied to BHO's BC. Chasing that rabbit seems like a waste of time to me, and may actually end up benefiting BHO in the long run.

re: #188 Cognito

Not at all -- I'm busy counting all my cash!

OOOHHH!

Thought I had it!

Either that or you had to delete one hell of a long post!

HAHAHAH!

re: #173 Steffan

Nice Link and no doubt all true.

But the Obamamessiah is not constrained by time or space. You are writing about the sun. The orange ball in the sky beckons at His command.

re: #169 Sharmuta

Smart woman. I did, and my BP is even higher than usual.

re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful, this ain't a pr0n site buddy.
/I am kidding

I don't think there is gonna be any shocking revelation tied to BHO's BC. Chasing that rabbit seems like a waste of time to me, and may actually end up benefiting BHO in the long run.

Confucious Say: Cat who tries to catch two mice at one time, goes without supper.

re: #160 newsjunkie_ky

YEA!
Got my McCain/Palin yard sign today. Gonna take a walk to see how many others got theirs. Neighbor next door got one.

I've got an extra hitch in my giddy-up today. I took my son driving today and there were at least 6 to 1 Mac. Our county is 2.5 to 1 Rep.,so I aint beleivin' the polls. The brutha would be needing more love than that from round here to take Pa.

re: #182 WrathofG-d

Traditionally up quotes are green though. Maybe the traders know something about tomorrow's planned visit?

Your text to link...

re: #191 Ben Hur

;)

Is it just me or have we gone down this rat hole with Obama and his cronies so far that even Lanny Davis looks and sounds sane?

re: #187 Ben Hur

You mean the initial Zionist colonial action which created the ethnic cleansing of a billion-trillion Native Americanistinians from the North American continent, and continuing racist occupation of Indian land to this day?

re: #198 Beach Lover

Is it just me or have we gone down this rat hole with Obama and his cronies so far that even Lanny Davis looks and sounds sane?

Gah!

re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful, this ain't a pr0n site buddy.
/I am kidding

I don't think there is gonna be any shocking revelation tied to BHO's BC. Chasing that rabbit seems like a waste of time to me, and may actually end up benefiting BHO in the long run.

Every minute spent on the BC is a minute you aren't hitting Barry on being a lying socialist bastard terrorist apologist.

re: #183 faraway

1776 - The "original sin" according to Obama.

The 'original sin' of Capitalism goes back before 1776.

re: #199 WrathofG-d

You mean the initial Zionist colonial action which created the ethnic cleansing of a billion-trillion Native Americanistinians from the North American continent, and continuing racist occupation of Indian land to this day?

In a nutshell, Yes.

You think Smith calling them the New Hebrews was coincidence?!?

re: #136 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

As a fellow financial professional, I ditto Flyover's comments.

If I understood what he said, I'd do it.

///not a finance guy :>}

I would love for the opportunity to explain all of this to you. my e-mail address is johnwiseman17@hotmail.com. If this is allowed to remain printed, I am not certain. I feel very passionately about folks getting good advice, and being able to face retirement on their own terms. Feel free to contact me at that e-mail address, and I can explain those things regarding finances which you may have questions about. The most important thing is to not make decisions based on emotion.

re: #193 joncelli

It's the Scarlet O'Hara approach- "I can't think about it now. I'll think about that tomorrow."

Some times it works against you, but some times it works for you.

gasoline prices down to $3.49 this a.m. Thanks good for Chicago

re: #204 Flyovercountry

re: #136 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

As a fellow financial professional, I ditto Flyover's comments.

If I understood what he said, I'd do it.

///not a finance guy :>}

I would love for the opportunity to explain all of this to you. my e-mail address is johnwiseman17@hotmail.com. If this is allowed to remain printed, I am not certain. I feel very passionately about folks getting good advice, and being able to face retirement on their own terms. Feel free to contact me at that e-mail address, and I can explain those things regarding finances which you may have questions about. The most important thing is to not make decisions based on emotion.

Duly Googled.

re: #202 Scion9

The 'original sin' of Capitalism goes back before 1776.

The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nation’s original sin of slavery

re: #203 Ben Hur

OH actually wait...didnt' the Muslims say Chris was their guy?

re: #185 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Like Pamela Anderson or Jenny McCarthy?

I don't remember bringing up naked options!

Calendar spreads are where you go long an option at a certain strike price at one date, then short the option at the same strike price at a different date.

The "spread" is the time difference.

And the point is that options prices reflect volatility, and short term options are more responsive to volatility, with their prices going up faster than long term options.

So if you know what you are doing (and are correct in your assumptions), by shorting the near-term options against the long term options you can capture the increased valuation of the short term options volatility using the long term options as a sort of "control".

In a way, its a method of turning uncertainty into cash.

re: #162 Intrepid

How about what this guy did? Just a nice man, minding his own business, happens to catch some nasty stuff on video at Mac/Sarah event?

Actually an Obama supporter, with a past conviction of trying to pick up minors on the Net

I'm sure the MSM will pick up on this info immediately.

/

re: #198 Beach Lover

Is it just me or have we gone down this rat hole with Obama and his cronies so far that even Lanny Davis looks and sounds sane?

He is making the Clintons look like saints! And, tat is hard to do!

re: #172 offendi

More importantly, if you think the media is in the tank for Obama you better believe they are more in the tank for selling financial rebound and fiscal stability. They need advertising dollars and retailer ads, etc., or they tank.

Silly bugger. They don't tank. The evile right-wing running dog capitalist pig owners tank. They continue their poor, under-appreciated scribbling of truth to power that a grateful sheeple will gladly pay them for.

Besides, advertising dollars are inherently dirty, coming from those filthy business types, anyways.

re: #170 unreconstructed rebel

Where did you find your avitar?

Pretty neat, huh? I don't recall exactly where on the net I found it. I had saved to my PC before I became a Lizard, and started using it as an avatar as a message to the jihadis that were sending Charles hate mail.

I also found this recently, and have been waiting for just the right troll/moby to use it on.

re: #209 WrathofG-d

OH actually wait...didnt' the Muslims say Chris was their guy?

To get their foot in the door only.

re: #181 DeafDog

Obama doesn't want to just reverse the last 30 years...he wants to turn back the clock from 1776.

Seriously, his crap about returning to our "best traditions"...what does that mean? Welfare is our best tradition?

I think he wants to reset to 1917

re: #198 Beach Lover

Is it just me or have we gone down this rat hole with Obama and his cronies so far that even Lanny Davis looks and sounds sane?

yes. I found myself listening to Dennis Kucinich last week and nodding in agreement. i quickly took a shower.

re: #217 alien_mind

yes. I found myself listening to Dennis Kucinich last week and nodding in agreement. i quickly took a shower.

I was suprised when he voted against the bailout. I was like, "Way to go, Dennis."

I blame Bush.

(I know others have said similar things.)

re: #209 WrathofG-d

OH actually wait...didnt' the Muslims say Chris was their guy?

Oh wait, Chris as in Columbus.

I thought you meant Christ, and with your condition you purposely left out the "T"

I'm sure they started saying that the second they heard he was a Jude.

re: #198 Beach Lover

Is it just me or have we gone down this rat hole with Obama and his cronies so far that even Lanny Davis looks and sounds sane?

Maybe he saw something working for The One that would drive a sane man mad...or in Davis' case, drive a mad man sane.

re: #204 Flyovercountry

Email addresses are verboten Flyover. You can set a contact by putting your address into the Email box at the top of the comment box when you are writing it up. It is just below the username, and remember to check the show email checkbox as well.

re: #174 Killgore Trout

Nah, it's in the filter. I tried to use it this morning.

Are you pulling my leg? There's a filter for that?

re: #217 alien_mind

yes. I found myself listening to Dennis Kucinich last week and nodding in agreement. i quickly took a shower.

But, of course, Kucinich and an "alien mind" would think alike.

re: #220 Ben Hur

Yea I meant Mr. Columbus. Not Jesus.

I wouldn't never call him Christ. I call him Jesus. aka: his name.

re: #187 Ben Hur

Any Columbus Day themed speeches from the candidates today?

Obama is discussing his ... "Italian" connections to Broadway Bank in Chicago?... just sayin

re: #225 WrathofG-d

Yea I meant Mr. Columbus. Not Jesus.

I wouldn't never call him Christ. I call him Jesus. aka: his name.

You just did.

Gee, what a wonderful system! Give private businesses billions of taxpayer dollars, and their stocks will go up! We might be able to keep this going for ever --- or at least as long as there's more taxpayer money to hand out.

re: #194 faraway

Confucious Say: Cat who tries to catch two mice at one time, goes without supper.

I'm thinking that right now Berg is looking an awful lot like a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd in a marble floor.

re: #227 Ben Hur

You just did.

And so close after Yom Kippur.

Have a good, long year, my friend!

re: #223 Slumbering Behemoth

Are you pulling my leg? There's a filter for that?

Several words are filtered directly, that's one of them.

re: #227 Ben Hur

no. I called him "him".

re: #216 Rednek

I think he wants to reset to 1917

Or 1860?

re: #231 CyanSnowHawk

Several words are filtered directly, that's one of them.

Just think of the Monty Python skit where the guy couldn't say the letter C. What a silly bunt.

re: #232 WrathofG-d

no. I called him "him".

What was done, cannot be undone.

re: #233 Soona'

Or 1860?

heh!

re: #233 Soona'

I wonder if by "best traditions" no-eyebrows on The View is going to bark at Obama that that must mean that he wants to go back to Slavery.

The stock market picked the wrong Monday to surge, i get paid next Friday and that is when the stocks go into my 401K. Its only 40 bucks or so, potentially, lost but every bit helps.

Anyone hear the Virginia Beach rally attendance numbers, sounds like Richmond did well.

re: #235 Ben Hur

Funny!

re: #231 CyanSnowHawk

I'll be damned, you guys are right.

re: #233 Soona'

Or 1860?

Maybe Obama would reset to Reconstruction

re: #218 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I was suprised when he voted against the bailout. I was like, "Way to go, Dennis."

you know what? I can respect a guy like Kucinich. he's principled and sticks to his guns and says what he believes even if its unpopular. of course I seldom agree with him but at least with him you know where you stand.
its these phonies like Obama that will say anything that I can't stand, they'll use whatever slippery words they can find if you will buy it.

re: #241 faraway

Maybe Obama would reset to Reconstruction

Watch it! Once was enough.

re: #241 faraway

Maybe Obama would reset to Reconstruction

He would have to switch to the Republican party, then.

re: #238 Fredlike

The stock market picked the wrong Monday to surge, i get paid next Friday and that is when the stocks go into my 401K. Its only 40 bucks or so, potentially, lost but every bit helps.

Anyone hear the Virginia Beach rally attendance numbers, sounds like Richmond did well.

Well, if you using Obama numbers it was ...1,000,000 at the McCain rally... but if we are in reality ... 20,000 ...pretty dang good for a team the msm is counting out ...

BBL

re: #242 alien_mind

you know what? I can respect a guy like Kucinich. he's principled and sticks to his guns and says what he believes even if its unpopular. of course I seldom agree with him but at least with him you know where you stand.
its these phonies like Obama that will say anything that I can't stand, they'll use whatever slippery words they can find if you will buy it.

I can agree with that. I'd rather deal with a guy I disagree with and is up front about it than a shyster who plays at being my friend while trying to screw me.

What a happy day!

Not even Obama with his Retirement Savings Wreckage Plan could stop the afternoon surge. Those nasty short sellers were panic-buying right to the closing bell. Still a lot of short positions way out of the money.

So the Dow should break 10,000 by 10 am. If it runs way up toward 11,000 by 2 pm, expect some profit taking in the last hours.

And please, my fellow Conservatives, remember this:

GOOG @

When Ayers and Dohrn were told of the massacre and mayhem committed by Manson against actress Sharon Tate, Labianca, the Folger heiress and Tate's unborn child, Ayer's wife Dohrn reportedly said "Dig it". It's sad that no one in Hollywood, save a few like Jon Voight, care that this Husband and Wife team of murderers "pal around" with Hollywood's icon, Barak Hussein Obama.

re: #204 Flyovercountry

Thanks wrote down your e-mail. right now I only have a 401k and I'm in it for the long haul, right now I have bills to pay off and can't afford to invest more ,but if I ever need advice on some other investing., Ill slip you a line. thanks again..

re: #224 faraway

But, of course, Kucinich and an "alien mind" would think alike.

that's right. didn't he see an alien or a UFO or something like that?
or maybe he was born on a UFO. i can't remember now.

re: #204 Flyovercountry

re: #136 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

As a fellow financial professional, I ditto Flyover's comments.

If I understood what he said, I'd do it.

///not a finance guy :>}

I would love for the opportunity to explain all of this to you. my e-mail address is . . .
If this is allowed to remain printed, I am not certain. I feel very passionately about folks getting good advice, and being able to face retirement on their own terms. Feel free to contact me at that e-mail address, and I can explain those things regarding finances which you may have questions about. The most important thing is to not make decisions based on emotion.

I don't know if your comment will be deleted or not; usually these are.

But you know - if you have your e-mail address in your profile information, then you can click the "show e-mail" box in the comments section, and your nic will turn blue, and people can contact you that way.

If your e-mail address changes, you change it in your profile, and people can still contact you thru your blue nic, rather than an old e-mail address that's been posted.

Are people who make over $250,000 being discriminated against with our tax code? Power to the rich people.

I have avoided I-66 long enough. Later

Wait! It's Columbus Day! All the feds are at home. Hey, Darlin', I'll see you in 35!

re: #241 faraway

Maybe Obama would reset to Reconstruction

His campaign has made clear that the first thing on their agenda is changing the way the USA functions, or to put it another way: Deconstruction.

re: #248 HelenW

GOOG @

Uh, okay!

/Perhaps you'd like to explain?

re: #195 x-wing

I've got an extra hitch in my giddy-up today. I took my son driving today and there were at least 6 to 1 Mac. Our county is 2.5 to 1 Rep.,so I aint beleivin' the polls. The brutha would be needing more love than that from round here to take Pa.

Good to hear. I really think McCain will win the 'bitter-clingers' in PA.
Haven't been out to walk the neighborhood yet. Daughter and SIL called. Even bigger YEA! He got a job offer today and has a second interview tomorrow for a better job.
Please say a little prayer, positive thoughts, crossed toes/fingers he gets the job tomorrow. They have a 3 month old and he lost his job the week before she was born.
Now going for that walk.

re: #253 faraway

As far as the law is concerned Anti-Discrimination laws only apply to certain classes.

"Rich" isn't one of them.

That being said a Tea Party could be in order.

re: #253 faraway

Are people who make over $250,000 being discriminated against with our tax code? Power to the rich people.

Yes.

Hating rich people is the only form of discrimination that is still legal. Any presumption of people being equal before the law ends if you start making money.

re: #257 newsjunkie_ky

Good to hear. I really think McCain will win the 'bitter-clingers' in PA.
Haven't been out to walk the neighborhood yet. Daughter and SIL called. Even bigger YEA! He got a job offer today and has a second interview tomorrow for a better job.
Please say a little prayer, positive thoughts, crossed toes/fingers he gets the job tomorrow. They have a 3 month old and he lost his job the week before she was born.
Now going for that walk.

Second interview a good sign.
prayers and fingers/toes crossed, plus good vibes being sent his way.

what's with the flag Obama has behind him? Now he has to have his own flag, too?!
What a dunce.

re: #259 Rednek

Yes.

Hating rich people is the only form of discrimination that is still legal. Any presumption of people being equal before the law ends if you start making money.

Rich people, and white males.

re: #259 Rednek

Yes.

Hating rich people is the only form of discrimination that is still legal. Any presumption of people being equal before the law ends if you start making money.

Actually, stupid people are still discriminated against. Ever wonder why the smart ones are the ones that go on to college? Don't the stupid ones need more learnin' ?

re: #78 Rednek

There must be something in that West Palm Beach water.

Viagra?

re: #261 Beach Lover

Did you catch his speech?

"Organize with me!" No joke.