Hey!

I can't imagine why any person with integrity would want to run for office after this election cycle, and that is truly sad for America.

A good collection of anti-Obama songs, parodies and satires!

And someone asked me once if I would ever go into politics. My response wasn't just no, it was HELL no!

/wouldn't want to be under that microscope.

Half of americans are statistically below average.

and ACORN is shifting the curve to the left

The candidates have the same background. One was indoctrinated by violent, America-hating Communists. The other was tortured by the Viet Cong.

Kristoforo Columbus! One intrepid dude.

Only those that are insanely proud of their country or insanely hate it run.

WOOT

/random

re: #598 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: the Phillies-Dodgers. they just showed James Brolin and Barbra Streisand. YUCK!

Of course Barbra probably asked James "Where's Magic Johnson"? And James said : "This isn't football, honey".

a Brit loses faith in Obama but would still vote for him. Technically, in America, this is called being a "bonehead."

I like Columbus.

QSCAN summing Obama where the author gives some insight as to weather or not Bill Ayers was the ghostwriter for an Obama memoir. From American Thinker.

Sen John McCain sings Streisand!

Integrity is now a political liability.

I heard this song on the radio today, and immediately thought how cool it would be to be able to sing it to the Obamatons in November.

You want it all, but you can't have it!

re: #16 Slumbering Behemoth

Whatever

Ugh. Had to listen to the liberal talking points and memes spewed in an email sent by one of June's friends, a friend who is voting for Obama. I asked her to send me the message, so I can post it here to be fisked. Maybe later tonight, or tomorrow.

Just got off the phone with my Dad, he Loves Obama...this proves that Liberalism isn't inherited.

Wasn't Columbus suspected of insanity?

There ya go, a nation discovered by a lunatic and in danger of lunacy in the White House.

"No sane person..."
That means it's right up my alley and I could use a second job.

Dodger stadium crowd looks a lot different in the playoffs.

The last game I saw there was mid season a few years ago and I felt like I was in the exercise yard at Pelican bay.

They must jack up the prices for playoff tickets.

Ron Paul!
Maybe Thompson was the exception that proves the rule this time around-but then it's hard to say he actually ran

funky formatting buttons. what the hell? don't really match the candy theme.

stolen from Puma confluence: smiles at jvsp
John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama all die and go to heaven.


God looks down from his throne and asks McCain, “Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?”
McCain takes a breath and then replies, “Well, my friend, I’ve dedicated my life to fighting for the betterment of my country and what is right.”
God looks down and then says, “You can sit to my left side.”
So, McCain takes his seat.

Then God asks the same question to Hillary, “Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?”
Hillary thinks for a second and then replies, “I think so because I have fought tirelessly for the rights of so many people for so long.”
God again looks down and this time says, “You can sit to my right side.”


Finally God turns to Barack Obama and asks, “Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?”
Obama smiles and replies, “I think you’re in my seat.”

Love Nugent!

Colmes doesn't get it. Not even close.

re: #3 Karridine

A good collection of anti-Obama songs, parodies and satires!

My favorite, courtesy of buzzsawmonkey on an earlier thread:

Gimme ACORN

When I was young I did despise
White folks, and so I organized
Angry ghetto communities
And trained them up to vote for me

Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
'Cause the vote will go my way

The national financial mess
Is 'cause ACORN the banks did press
So now I try to minimize
That it and I have quite close ties

Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
'Cause the vote will go my way

They sign up folks who don't exist
So that elections they can twist
But if you question my vote base
I'll say that you're obsessed by race

Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
Gimme ACORN, and I don't care
'Cause the vote will go my way

They're trying to sell Oliver Stone's "W" as a frat-type comedy, full of pratfalls and broad one-liners. They know if they present it honestly as a leftwing hit piece nobody will go to see it. They're spending a lot of money advertising it on Fox.

re: #2 Sharmuta

I can't imagine why any person with integrity would want to run for office after this election cycle, and that is truly sad for America.

I just made that observation while contemplating my future Presidential run.

Looks like I'm out of the running.

re: #28 Luigi

They're trying to sell Oliver Stone's "W" as a frat-type comedy, full of pratfalls and broad one-liners. They know if they present it honestly as a leftwing hit piece nobody will go to see it. They're spending a lot of money advertising it on Fox.

Good luck with that, Ollie.

*spit*

One more: (These are) The Good Old Days

a t-shirt for Obama from an article in Fox News-
[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

I a person isn't crazy when they make a bid for election, they will be at the end of the process.

I have a hard time staying sane watching from the side-lines.

re: #29 TheMatrix31

I just made that observation while contemplating my future Presidential run.

Looks like I'm out of the running.

At least wait till you come in last in NH... everyone else does.

re: #28 Luigi

They're trying to sell Oliver Stone's "W" as a frat-type comedy, full of pratfalls and broad one-liners. They know if they present it honestly as a leftwing hit piece nobody will go to see it. They're spending a lot of money advertising it on Fox.

I don't think anybody will go see it anyway.

I can't even discover a new thread first, let alone a new continent.

Lief^* was here first!

^*_{If he had been banished again, he might have come back, too.}

Question for all techies:

On NY Nan's computer, which is XP Media Center we keep getting an error message that there is something wrong with Media Center. I think that I have to repair XP Media Center from the disc that came with the computer. My question is, if I put in the disc and run 'repair' will it affect any of the files (picture, documents, etc.) on the computer. Is it a better idea to back up all these files to an external hard drive first.

There is an imposter on the field on MNF. That can't possibly be my Cleveland Browns.

The new, gas-powered toy
Makes Noam a happy boy.

re: #32 thedude

a t-shirt for Obama from an article in Fox News-
[Link: www.cafepress.com...]

Yes I Can't!

so here’s a Columbus Day open thread.

"Columbus" Day? A celebration of white supremacy and imperialism. We should call it Indigenous Peoples' Nakba Day.

/

re: #28 Luigi

We should make our own movie about college drop-out Al Gore or Obama(Too long to list) or about Oliver Stone himself called Stoned.

re: #42 Occasional Reader

"Columbus" Day? A celebration of white supremacy and imperialism. We should call it Indigenous Peoples' Nakba Day.

/

Nice gun.

We have NY Nana and NY Grandpa? When did that happen?

/I miss all the fun stuff.

Sad fact: Liberty is not on the ballot.

re: #35 Ward Cleaver

My Aunts, Great Aunts and Great Uncles might.

re: #40 Noam Sayin'

That thing goes 200mph? I'm trading in my broom.

Kimber, eh?

You must be one of dem rich folks I bin hearin about

Does anybody know of some good software for tagging photos? We've got zillions of photos, and I'd like to go through and put tags on them, so we can search for photos by tags.

In fairness... politics have always been in the gutter:

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

re: #46 P. Aaron

Sad fact: Liberty is not on the ballot.

Maybe not, but tyranny is (in one slot). So best to choose the lessor of evils so we can get Sarah next time.

re: #45 ggt

We have NY Nana and NY Grandpa? When did that happen?

/I miss all the fun stuff.

46 years and one week ago!

re: #38 NY Grampa

Question for all techies:

On NY Nan's computer, which is XP Media Center we keep getting an error message that there is something wrong with Media Center. I think that I have to repair XP Media Center from the disc that came with the computer. My question is, if I put in the disc and run 'repair' will it affect any of the files (picture, documents, etc.) on the computer. Is it a better idea to back up all these files to an external hard drive first.

I never back anything up and I routinely lose all my files every 3 years or so. Burn it all to a DVD or cd's, then repair away.

Steely Dan?

re: #38 NY Grampa
Back up all you rimportant doc and pics then try and do the repair. There is a good chance that it will not work and you will end up reformatting and reinstalling Windows again. There is a very specific order that you need to do the repair procedure. Search the internet as it been a few years since I've done it .

re: #52 Cognito

Any other thoughts?

We need more guns.

re: #38 NY Grampa

Question for all techies:

On NY Nan's computer, which is XP Media Center we keep getting an error message that there is something wrong with Media Center. I think that I have to repair XP Media Center from the disc that came with the computer. My question is, if I put in the disc and run 'repair' will it affect any of the files (picture, documents, etc.) on the computer. Is it a better idea to back up all these files to an external hard drive first.

Yes, it would be a good idea to have a backup anyway, but no, the repair shouldn't destroy your data. You will need to run Windows Update afterward, though, because doing a repair from the disc will overwrite some newer files laid down by Windows Update.

Please pass this to your Catholic brothers and sisters ...... and anyone else you want to ....... it has already gotten 1.5 million hits in a short time ...... we need everyone we can get this time around .........

[Link: www.catholicvote.com...]

I know it has already been posted before but it needs to get to as many people as possible. Hoping for a large Catholic vote for McCain ...... there are huge numbers of Catholic in PA and OH ...... pass it on......

re: #38 NY Grampa

Question for all techies:

On NY Nan's computer, which is XP Media Center we keep getting an error message that there is something wrong with Media Center. I think that I have to repair XP Media Center from the disc that came with the computer. My question is, if I put in the disc and run 'repair' will it affect any of the files (picture, documents, etc.) on the computer. Is it a better idea to back up all these files to an external hard drive first.

If you are getting vague error messages like that, you should back everything up before you attempt a repair. It is not difficult to make a mistake on the repair and wipe out your files.

re: #52 Cognito

Clearly we need a Senate investigation.

re: #23 Shug

Dodger stadium crowd looks a lot different in the playoffs.

The last game I saw there was mid season a few years ago and I felt like I was in the exercise yard at Pelican bay.

They must jack up the prices for playoff tickets.

They do.

Loved the joke willowone. Sent it on to my sister. lol lol lol

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

I think that the primary differences between George Washington and every other President that came after him is that George Washington did not want the job. He viewed it more as a duty to be done then an honor to be sought.

re: #58 mama winger

We need more guns.

And Ammo.

re: #60 JacksonTn

Please pass this to your Catholic brothers and sisters ...... and anyone else you want to ....... it has already gotten 1.5 million hits in a short time ...... we need everyone we can get this time around .........

[Link: www.catholicvote.com...]

I know it has already been posted before but it needs to get to as many people as possible. Hoping for a large Catholic vote for McCain ...... there are huge numbers of Catholic in PA and OH ...... pass it on......

I think June watched that one. I need to watch it.

re: #52 Cognito

I didn't know there was going to be a test! (and I hate essay questions)

Just think:

300 million Americans

Rule out people less than 35 and older people who are infirm and you have about 100 million possible presidential candidates. Of those, lets just say, 25% have some criminal record or other disqualifying history.

That leaves 75 million people.

Of those, lets say 0.01% have the intelligence, character traits, and education to be a good President.

That leaves 7,500 excellent Presidential candidates.

And look what happens election after election.

God must hate us.

re: #45 ggt

/Clearly this troll, who calls himself 'NY Grampa' does not know me, as I am NY Nana, not NY Nan!

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

Cognito, I don't post a lot and I don't often agree with you, but I agree 100% with congressional term limits. The time of the congressional career has to end.

re: #27 gmsc

upding!

Great site. :)

re: #52 Cognito

Any other thoughts?

We'd have to start by accepting the premise that America is a Constitutional Republic, and that the government must abide by that rule 1st.

We need to revamp or replace the current education system: K-12.

re: #49 mama winger

Kimber, eh?

You must be one of dem rich folks I bin hearin about

The arsenal of democracy grows.

I picked up a schweeeet older (wood stock) Ruger 10/22 with a scope and two magazines for $210 on Saturday at a gun show.

Love Missouri. Love it.

re: #44 mama winger

Nice gun.

SYMBOL OF IMPERIALIST RACIST OPPRESSION, THAT'S WHAT IT IS!

But yeah, I like it, too.

Nu icon test...

Get special interests out of Washington and the swamp will be better.

However, I'm not going to hold my breath.

re: #28 Luigi

And I saw a trailer for a new Nixon hit piece movie today "Frost/Nixon".
They never let up.

re: #28 Luigi

They're trying to sell Oliver Stone's "W" as a frat-type comedy, full of pratfalls and broad one-liners. They know if they present it honestly as a leftwing hit piece nobody will go to see it. They're spending a lot of money advertising it on Fox.

I saw a sentence from the SF Chronicle saying the movie was balances and kind, or some such crap.

Proposition Eight in California was placed on the ballot by stating that marriage is defined as between one man and one woman. My Official Voter Information Guide staters the following regarding this Proposition:

Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry.
Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California.

I wasn't aware this right was already in the Constitution.

Thank you, Jerry Brown.

re: #64 UberInfidel67

Loved the joke willowone. Sent it on to my sister. lol lol lol

You have mail.

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

We're morally and philosophically bankrupt. During the time of the founders reason and science were highly respected. Today everything is about how people feel. Bush was pushing "compassionate conservatism", and liberals are pushing empathy.

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

It'd be a band aid at best. I'm not saying it wouldn't help, but it's not the source of the problem.

re: #70 NY Nana

/Clearly this troll, who calls himself 'NY Grampa' does not know me, as I am NY Nana, not NY Nan!

Cage Match!

I'll get my popcorn.

re: #69 Dar ul Harbarian

Most people don't want to be the subject of the kind of vitriol aimed at any president. I know I couldn't take it.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

Killgore, buddy, get with the times. That vid is so yesterday. You gotta use the live version if you want to look cool.
//

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

Term limits are at the top of my wish list, and have been for some time. It will take a constitutional amendment. Also lengthen the terms for House members to four years, so they don't have to run every two years.

re: #49 mama winger

Kimber, eh?

You must be one of dem rich folks I bin hearin about

I am a Greedy Wall Street Banker! Bwaaaahahahaha....

re: #70 NY Nana

/Clearly this troll, who calls himself 'NY Grampa' does not know me, as I am NY Nana, not NY Nan!

ROTFLMAO

re: #74 Palandine

The arsenal of democracy grows.

I picked up a schweeeet older (wood stock) Ruger 10/22 with a scope and two magazines for $210 on Saturday at a gun show.

Love Missouri. Love it.

I went to college in Missouri -
Cape Girardeau - SEMO

I too loved it. Lots of fine folks down that way with their heads screwed on right.

re: #38 NY Grampa

Question for all techies:

On NY Nan's computer, which is XP Media Center we keep getting an error message that there is something wrong with Media Center. I think that I have to repair XP Media Center from the disc that came with the computer. My question is, if I put in the disc and run 'repair' will it affect any of the files (picture, documents, etc.) on the computer. Is it a better idea to back up all these files to an external hard drive first.

Hi..
First off.. here is a secret..copy and paste the error message into google.com
Technology advances..going back to the original version is usually not as good of a solution as downloading the recommended upgrade..

re: #52 Cognito

Term limits are a must to end this cronyism that has made our Congress into a big self serving fraternity. At least we could limit the liability somewhat when we have Jr's entering that vote "present" and do nothing more than posture themselves as a silly putty Presidential Candidate!

re: #47 conservativeChick

Also every student and professor at the Evergreen State College.

re: #51 Basho

Could have dealt without the references to Palin as a retard or that the Presidental election of 2000 was stolen...

/And why isn't the 1960's election on the list, with IL shananigans on there?

re: #6 FightingBack

The candidates have the same background. One was indoctrinated by violent, America-hating Communists. The other was tortured by the Viet Cong North Vietnamese

re: #83 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I was already making some....wanna share?

re: #23 Shug

Dodger stadium crowd looks a lot different in the playoffs.

The last game I saw there was mid season a few years ago and I felt like I was in the exercise yard at Pelican bay.

They must jack up the prices for playoff tickets.

I hoped you waved hi to my brother-in-law!

re: #88 Pvt Bin Jammin

/Beware of the troll! ;)

re: #60 JacksonTn

Please pass this to your Catholic brothers and sisters ...... and anyone else you want to ....... it has already gotten 1.5 million hits in a short time ...... we need everyone we can get this time around .........

[Link: www.catholicvote.com...]

I know it has already been posted before but it needs to get to as many people as possible. Hoping for a large Catholic vote for McCain ...... there are huge numbers of Catholic in PA and OH ...... pass it on......

A couple of weeks ago, a letter was read in our archdiocese from the acting bishop. No Catholic in good standing can vote for a pro-abortion candidate, or they are a participant in abortion.

Perfectly legal letter. Doesn't mention any party. It'll give a lot of blue-collar voters heartburn, but many will do the right thing.

BTW, they just showed Bocephus' "Family Tradition" on H & C. I LOVE that redneck...

/Palandine's ring tone is "A Country Boy Can Survive"

re: #96 NY Nana

I was already making some....wanna share?

Sure... but don't you need to get loose, put on the the tights and the cape for the big match?

;-)

re: #91 Tilli

Moby? Is that you?

It was Free Token who said we need to improve civics education, and I agree. People have no idea what they're doing, what they're supporting. They have no idea about American government or the Constitution.

I can't tell you the number of times I've corrected people when they mis-speak about the Constitution. Some will even argue with me until I whip out my pocked Constitution and show them they are wrong on a point. Unbelievable! Hell- just last week I made a comment about the Constitutional requirements for the Senate and a co-worker of mine had no idea there was an age limit! And she gets to vote, fercryinoutloud!

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

Well, to answer your first question, our first president was George Washington. I think that pretty much covers it.

As for your latter comments... I'll go all Jeffersonian on you and say that liberty has to be refreshed with the blood of tyrants.

re: #99 NY Nana

LOL I am wondering just who this "Nan" is anyway?

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

Term limits are at the top of my wish list, and have been for some time. It will take a constitutional amendment. Also lengthen the terms for House members to four years, so they don't have to run every two years.

I have to agree with you on the term limits, Ward. Remember when they were the political hot button years ago...what happened?

//they all remembered the longer you stay in the richer you get.

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Moby? Is that you?

LOL

re: #97 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Every 20 years. We're overdue.

Whose blood then? I've no intention of bleeding unless I need to. To borrow from General Patton, I'd rather deliver wounds unto the enemy and let them do the bleeding.

re: #91 Tilli

Whoa! Don't get carried away here.

re: #65 Syrah

I think that the primary differences between George Washington and every other President that came after him is that George Washington did not want the job. He viewed it more as a duty to be done then an honor to be sought.

He did, however, want the President to be addressed as "His Mightiness the President."

I started swearing at the Phillies, so am taking a time-out in Lizard-dom.

re: #38 NY Grampa

I'd go with backing up the media, followed by an uninstall/reinstall. Either way, backing up data before messing with Windows is always a good thing. ;)

re: #52 Cognito

Stop direct elections of the Senate. They should be chosen by State Legislators. All Congress critters should be paid out of state budgets-let them remember who elected them.

re: #101 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Sure... but don't you need to get loose, put on the the tights and the cape for the big match?

;-)

I need time to invite the kids over, and darn, the grandkids are all asleep...we had better pick the right time for me to get my gear on.

And some guy is trying to get at my computer. Heeeeelp!

If I disappear from LGF....

re: #65 Syrah

I think that the primary differences between George Washington and every other President that came after him is that George Washington did not want the job. He viewed it more as a duty to be done then an honor to be sought.

Perhaps next time the primaries can consist of the parties running around and capturing any number of unwilling participants, and then weeding them out until they get the one that says, "Okay, if you insist." We can turn it into some kind of reality TV show and just maybe get more people involved in the process.

re: #64 UberInfidel67
i found it cute. glad you enjoyed

re: #69 Dar ul Harbarian

Just think:

300 million Americans

Rule out people less than 35 and older people who are infirm and you have about 100 million possible presidential candidates. Of those, lets just say, 25% have some criminal record or other disqualifying history.

That leaves 75 million people.

Of those, lets say 0.01% have the intelligence, character traits, and education to be a good President.

That leaves 7,500 excellent Presidential candidates.

And look what happens election after election.

God must hate us.

Well, if the Bible is to be taken literally, our government is the way it is because that's how God wants it.

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Moby? Is that you?

Whale...you never know.

re: #54 NY Grampa

ooooh, congratulations!

re: #69 Dar ul Harbarian

Of those, lets say 0.01% have the intelligence, character traits, and education to be a good President.

They're smart enough not to want to be President.

re: #80 solomonpanting

Proposition Eight in California was placed on the ballot by stating that marriage is defined as between one man and one woman. My Official Voter Information Guide staters the following regarding this Proposition:

Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry.
Changes the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California.

I wasn't aware this right was already in the Constitution.

Thank you, Jerry Brown.

They control the language.
Kind of like calling it "same sex " couples like that's somehow more natural and normal than those weird " opposite sex viviparous freaks"
I hate twisting the language like that

I will really enjoy seeing a state constitution changed and giving the middle finger to the activist judges who "interpret" the constitution as a living breathing document.
Screw them

And it's Tree of Liberty. If you're going to make a comment bordering on fringe, at least get the quote right.

re: #91 Tilli

So does this dude.

re: #118 jorline

Whale...you never know.

LOL.

re: #103 Sharmuta

lol
I thought I was the only civics nut who carried a copy of the Constitution everywhere.

As to Cognito's question -

I say overhaul of the IRS code. Flat tax. No exemptions. That way lobbyists and all those who seek special favor from Congress will be out of business and out of politics. The only reason they are there is for monetary favors (read: tax breaks)

Ain't That A Kick In The Head

re: #28 Luigi

They're trying to sell Oliver Stone's "W" as a frat-type comedy, full of pratfalls and broad one-liners. They know if they present it honestly as a leftwing hit piece nobody will go to see it. They're spending a lot of money advertising it on Fox.

I saw an article this weekend that said Stone claims to be non-partisan, and the proof of that he cited was that he cut a number of over-the-top scenes from his oinker.

Right. He's about as nonpartisan as Olbermann.

The leftwing Stone doesn't take political sides despite the fact that 'W.' portrays Bush as nothing much more than a dissolute drunkard who disappoints his father as you can see in this reality challenged trailer. Here is a summary of the movie by the Sun-Times' Cindy Pearlman:

In "W.," Josh Brolin portrays the 43rd president of the United States as a beer-guzzling, hazed Yale frat guy who fails at his Daddy-pulled-the-strings jobs in the Texas oil fields, manages a baseball team in Texas and then shockingly lands at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

In between, he boozes it up, puts down the bottle, marries Laura (Elizabeth Banks), wrestles with the long shadow of his father and even finds religion at age 40. All of his White House meetings end with a quick prayer session.

...The president doesn't exactly come off like a Rhodes Scholar in the film, and his personal life isn't off limits. One scene has his daddy griping about having to deal with one of his young namesake's former girlfriends.

"What are you cut out for -- chasing tail? You're not a Kennedy. You're a Bush," fumes Cromwell.

Stone insists his film isn't a satire.

re: #94 mitthrawnurdo

Could have dealt without the references to Palin as a retard or that the Presidental election of 2000 was stolen...

/And why isn't the 1960's election on the list, with IL shananigans on there?

Yeah, I could have dealt without those either. But the point of the article is still true.

re: #52 Cognito

I've come to the conclusion that that apart from being elected the dearest wish of a professional politician is to be reelected.

re: #125 Killer Tomato

lol
I thought I was the only civics nut who carried a copy of the Constitution everywhere.

Nope! In fact- mine is falling apart.

re: #120 arethusa

They're smart enough not to want to be President.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

/in this case, anyway

Many convicted felons remain on voter rolls, according to Sun Sentinel investigation

More than 30,000 Florida felons who by law should have been stripped of their right to vote remain registered to cast ballots in this presidential battleground state, a Sun Sentinel investigation has found.

Many are faithful voters, with at least 4,900 turning out in past elections.

Another 5,600 are not likely to vote Nov. 4 — they're still in prison.

Of the felons who registered with a party, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than two to one.
...

re: #113 ggt

Stop direct elections of the Senate. They should be chosen by State Legislators. All Congress critters should be paid out of state budgets-let them remember who elected them.

Holy mackerel, the California legislature would send a potted plant and a whale.

Here's a better idea, hold a lottery, you can buy all the tickets you want, winner is the Senator.

Someone in my neighborhood has left outside my dwelling and those a couple blocks around copies of the following article by Naomi Wolf:

Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on US Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

The pamphleteer writes at the top:

How should we respond to this, as neighbors and concerned citizens? Let's get together and discuss it. I have some ideas. Maybe you do, too.

She left her email address, phone number, and address (a block from me, a few doors down from my girlfriend).

Is it permissible to post her email address if anyone wants to -- nicely -- give her feedback?

I tossed it into the recycling bin myself.

re: #28 Luigi

They're trying to sell Oliver Stone's "W" as a frat-type comedy, full of pratfalls and broad one-liners. They know if they present it honestly as a leftwing hit piece nobody will go to see it. They're spending a lot of money advertising it on Fox.

who would want to see it? do they really think people are hungering for a movie on Bush? my prediction, my hope is it tanks big time. also I can't stand Stone.

I told all my co-workers to vote for me, because I promised I would only serve one term due to the fact I'm only interested in collecting the cushy pension plan they get in Congress. :p

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Whose blood then? I've no intention of bleeding unless I need to. To borrow from General Patton, I'd rather deliver wounds unto the enemy and let them do the bleeding.

Jefferson quote: "The tree of liberty needs to be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots."

/take your pick

re: #103 Sharmuta

Good for you to carry around a Constitution. Even those who do - like US Senators - are wont to disregard it or interpret it any way they wish.

Take for example Obama's latest idea - to engage in a 90 day moratorium on foreclosure actions. Where in the US Constitution is that allowed? It isn't, unless you get into a tortured reading of Art 1, Sec. 8, Cl 18, and reason that to do the moratorium is good for commerce, but banks would strenuously disagree, and so would most people. It's demagoguery at its worst.

re: #91 Tilli

Uh.

The full quote from Thomas Jefferson is:

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Sounds a little better that way. A little less vampirish.

re: #135 neocon hippie

Um... wouldn't someone have noticed?
What are they, disguised as light poles and parking meters?

re: #38 NY Grampa

Question for all techies:

On NY Nan's computer, which is XP Media Center we keep getting an error message that there is something wrong with Media Center. I think that I have to repair XP Media Center from the disc that came with the computer. My question is, if I put in the disc and run 'repair' will it affect any of the files (picture, documents, etc.) on the computer. Is it a better idea to back up all these files to an external hard drive first.

I have XP Home. I've had to run repair three or four times -- it didn't touch any of the other files.

Of course, backing up your files is always a good idea....

re: #135 neocon hippie

Is it permissible to post her email address if anyone wants to -- nicely -- give her feedback?

No. Read the guidelines at the top of the thread.

Ok, in a perfect world of public office, term limits on Senators and Congress to protect the American people. There would be a cap on campaign spending which would limit how long a campaign could go on and on and on and on. There would be mandatory investigation and published facts for the public and mandatory suspension of office, whenever any Senator or Congressperson was accused of impropriety in office. And each person elected to office would have to spend time in continuing education on "How the Economy Works, 101" and other critical stuff, the entire time in office. Back to sleep zzzzzzzzz

re: #141 Killer Tomato

Um... wouldn't someone have noticed?
What are they, disguised as light poles and parking meters?

If there were to be troops stationed, it would be the National Guard.

So far, we haven't got the word :)

re: #127 DesertSage

Ain't That A Kick In The Head

I have a Best Of Dean Martin with that song on it. Makes me happy to listen to him.

When is Amerigo Vespucci Day?
After his explorations in 1501-1502, he was one of the first explorers to come up with the idea that these places he had visited were not part of Asia (as Columbus thought) but rather were part of a "New World." In 1507, a pamphlet was published called "The Four Voyages of Amerigo" and the author suggested that the new land that Amerigo had explored be named in his honor. At first, the name of America was only meant to apply to South America, but later on, both continents of America became known by his name.

re: #135 neocon hippie

Someone in my neighborhood has left outside my dwelling and those a couple blocks around copies of the following article by Naomi Wolf:

Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on US Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

The pamphleteer writes at the top:

How should we respond to this, as neighbors and concerned citizens? Let's get together and discuss it. I have some ideas. Maybe you do, too.

She left her email address, phone number, and address (a block from me, a few doors down from my girlfriend).

Is it permissible to post her email address if anyone wants to -- nicely -- give her feedback?

I tossed it into the recycling bin myself.

IMHO...she's hitting on you, hippie.

re: #126 mama winger

As to Cognito's question -

I say overhaul of the IRS code. Flat tax. No exemptions. That way lobbyists and all those who seek special favor from Congress will be out of business and out of politics. The only reason they are there is for monetary favors (read: tax breaks)

okey dokey mamawinger..
We have directed security to clean out your desk on K street..
So this is how you want to play?
*wink*

re: #133 J.D.

The situation is real bad in Florida, especially considering that they should have been embarrassed into taking action to completely overhaul the system after 2000. They didn't. They went with the high tech electronic voting machines that often don't work and need to rely on paper ballots.

But they ignored the basics of culling the voter rolls of those who died, are felons, or otherwise moved out of the jurisdiction, etc.

re: #131 Sharmuta

Nope! In fact- mine is falling apart.

It does come in handy....

re: #125 Killer Tomato

me too!

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

ah, I'm not sold on term limits being a good thing, except for the Presidency, to avoid that whole "kingship" thing.

We already have a mechanism for term limits, it's called "voting".

With term limits, there is a loss of experience, institutional history and memory, that might not be the best thing.

If people vote for a corrupt offiicial, like William Jefferson, then they wpuld easily vote for a second corrupt official to replace him. Term limits will not solve that problem; it won't ensure that corrupt people aren't elected.

But it term limits just might ensure that good and experienced people would not get to continue in a job where they can do some good.

re: #140 Charles

Sounds a little better that way.

The other way sounds a bit like that 4 person video game from the late 80's, Gauntlet.

"Warrior needs food badly."

Went to the Rangers/Flyers game despite the loss it turned out to be a rousing game, but I digress. Sarah Palin dropped the puck but it was better on TV. Initially the Obamatons booed, but fans drowned them out with applause. Not necessarily politically aligned but out of decorum. The puck was dropped without fanfare, nor was there any speech given. She was in and out without much ado. The whole puck drop with carpet affair really doesn't make much sense.
One political observation, an Obamaton had an Obama mask on during the game and for some reason a fan took a dislike to it and removed it from the Obamaton and returned two pieces back. The Obamaton proceeded to spill several drinks using his oversized hockey foam hand, spilling many beverages. Security removed the face vandal and left the beverage waster.
You decide which was the more heinous crime.

re: #140 Charles

I've always been in favor of tyrannocide.

re: #2 Sharmuta

I can't imagine why any person with integrity would want to run for office after this election cycle, and that is truly sad for America.

Two such people are running: McCain and Palin. Another few ran in the primaries: Romney and Thompson and, if you put aside his personal life, maybe Giuliani. Can't think of anybody on the Dem side this time, or last time, or the time before that.

I won't tell no one your Name.

Sarah Palin is sane, and then some. McCaine too.

It is Obama who has the audacity of bullshit that gives lie to the "you must be crazy" argument. He is sane, and then some. It is his idiot disciples that are nuts.

re: #135 neocon hippie

Someone in my neighborhood has left outside my dwelling and those a couple blocks around copies of the following article by Naomi Wolf:

Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on US Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

The pamphleteer writes at the top:

How should we respond to this, as neighbors and concerned citizens? Let's get together and discuss it. I have some ideas. Maybe you do, too.

She left her email address, phone number, and address (a block from me, a few doors down from my girlfriend).

Is it permissible to post her email address if anyone wants to -- nicely -- give her feedback?

I tossed it into the recycling bin myself.

A story like that doesn't worry me. If have to put troops in the streets it'll be to deal with Obama's minions when they lose. And if it comes to that ACORN will end short a few thousand thugs.

10/13 McCain

/simply an amazing speech, if he can keep this up for another three weeks, we'll win going away

OMG

Marcia slept with Greg!

re: #147 IslandLibertarian

In 1507, a pamphlet was published called "The Four Voyages of Amerigo" and the author suggested that the new land that Amerigo had explored be named in his honor. At first, the name of America was only meant to apply to South America, but later on, both continents of America became known by his name.

If I'm not mistaken, the author of that pamphlet was just some regular priest. I think it's fitting that America wasn't named by a king or some other elite.

re: #121 Shug

They control the language.

I believe it's up to the Attorney General to write the Proposition's language.
Imagine the outrage if a Proposition to allow abortion appeared thusly:

"Gives Pregnant Woman the Right to Kill Her Child."

re: #135 neocon hippie

Someone in my neighborhood has left outside my dwelling and those a couple blocks around copies of the following article by Naomi Wolf:

Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on US Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

The pamphleteer writes at the top:

How should we respond to this, as neighbors and concerned citizens? Let's get together and discuss it. I have some ideas. Maybe you do, too.

She left her email address, phone number, and address (a block from me, a few doors down from my girlfriend).

Is it permissible to post her email address if anyone wants to -- nicely -- give her feedback?

I tossed it into the recycling bin myself.

You could attend here little neighborhood meeting with the express purpose and plan to work them all up into a frenzy of paranoia.

re: #141 Killer Tomato

Um... wouldn't someone have noticed?
What are they, disguised as light poles and parking meters?

lol

Monty Python "How Not To Be Seen".

"This tree (of Freedom), once planted, did not grow and flourish by itself. It needed constant attention, care and nourishment. ... To guarantee its life the tree of freedom from time to time had to be 'watered' with human blood."

This is not exactly Moby-stuff... nor is it a cheap shibboleth, waved above our heads to elicit mindless obedience and sacrifice...

An enlightening link, including 'watering...Tree of Freedom'

re: #156 The Other Les

I've always been in favor of tyrannocide.

The descendants of the Athenian tyrannicides Harmodius and Aristogeiton, who murdered the brother of the tyrant Hippias in 511, were rewarded by the Athenians with free meals at state expense, for life. Went on for centuries.

-Arethusa, bringing you little nuggets you didn't want to know from classical antiquity

re: #157 lostlakehiker

Two such people are running: McCain and Palin.

I know- but some people have come to view McCain as weak because he has integrity. They beat him up for it. They send him nasty emails for it. And no- I'm not talking about leftists- I'm talking about people supposedly on our side. It's very sad.

re: #155 Pepper

Went to the Rangers/Flyers game despite the loss it turned out to be a rousing game, but I digress. Sarah Palin dropped the puck but it was better on TV. Initially the Obamatons booed, but fans drowned them out with applause. Not necessarily politically aligned but out of decorum. The puck was dropped without fanfare, nor was there any speech given. She was in and out without much ado. The whole puck drop with carpet affair really doesn't make much sense.
One political observation, an Obamaton had an Obama mask on during the game and for some reason a fan took a dislike to it and removed it from the Obamaton and returned two pieces back. The Obamaton proceeded to spill several drinks using his oversized hockey foam hand, spilling many beverages. Security removed the face vandal and left the beverage waster.
You decide which was the more heinous crime.

Sarah Palin Drops Puck At Flyers Home Opener

/top that Ol' Plugs!

re: #148 jorline

Then she's hitting on several blocks full of people.

Time to hit the sack...see y'all in the morning.

Goodnight

re: #156 The Other Les

I've always been in favor of tyrannocide.

Don't say that too loudly, the left is so unhinged they think W is a tyrant.

re: #161 Killian Bundy

10/13 McCain

/simply an amazing speech, if he can keep this up for another three weeks, we'll win going away

Thanks

Sarah Palin is as sane as they come.

Which is why the media has no idea what to make of her.

re: #150 lawhawk

Old news, huh?
I see you posted that at 10:25 AM.

Before I moved down here, I was an election officer and we were ever so encouraged to point out the deceased and those who had moved...How can it be so difficult to keep an eye on this when it's all a matter of public record? What are they doing all year if not those sorts of things.

re: #175 mama winger

Sarah Palin is as sane as they come.

Which is why the media has no idea what to make of her.

true

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

Whose blood then? I've no intention of bleeding unless I need to. To borrow from General Patton, I'd rather deliver wounds unto the enemy and let them do the bleeding.

Tyrants and Patriots, per Jefferson.

So delivering is good-to-go for his purposes.

re: #107 jorline

I have to agree with you on the term limits, Ward. Remember when they were the political hot button years ago...what happened?

//they all remembered the longer you stay in the richer you get.

I think the fuss died down after Republicans won the House and Senate. Some states (notably Washington) tried passing laws, but they were struck down by the courts.

re: #134 itellu3times

ha! I'm thinking more along the lines of Military Pay. From the Federal budget, you (lottery winner) get a stipend for room and board -while in Washington and the rest is paid by the State coffers from whence you come.

Perhaps you could get a stipend for office expense while in Washington--one staff person per xxx people in your voting district.

I think the Federal Budget lacks oversite because it is so big --put someof this back on the States and it would be easier to manage. Just have to make sure that the Federal tax burden on the tax payer is lowered the amount the State Tax will be increased. I think once many of them get to Washington, they forget about their home state and it's needs.

re: #171 neocon hippie

Then she's hitting on several blocks full of people.

Doesn't speak to highly of her now does it?
//

re: #100 Palandine

A couple of weeks ago, a letter was read in our archdiocese from the acting bishop. No Catholic in good standing can vote for a pro-abortion candidate, or they are a participant in abortion.

Perfectly legal letter. Doesn't mention any party. It'll give a lot of blue-collar voters heartburn, but many will do the right thing.

BTW, they just showed Bocephus' "Family Tradition" on H & C. I LOVE that redneck...

/Palandine's ring tone is "A Country Boy Can Survive"

Loved his new version of the song......hope to find it on youtube.

re: #162 Dar ul Harbarian

OMG

Marcia slept with Greg!

Marcia, was, and still is, hot.

re: #155 Pepper

You decide which was the more heinous crime.

Was the guy wearing the Obama head really pro-Bama? People wear a politicians mask in ridicule.

Maybe the mask halver took umbrage with someone dissing the one.

Ya know, I think if Obama only had one or two major problems, it would be easier to beat him. This is like CLinton all over again, which one to pick. After a while it all sounds like chatter and no one is listening.
This ACORN thing is gonna get no traction again this time.

re: #52 Cognito

I second the term limits.

And they should un-gerrymander congressional districts.

Somehow we have to attract better candidates, in both parties.

But here's the thing, our economy, our society, is a lot different now than it was two hundred years ago. I think we should learn that, from the recent financial events. Technology. We may need some serious new government organs, conservative or not. I don't have anything particular in mind - except, just maybe, and please don't shout - a national healthcare system. But that's just a sideshow, your question was about politics. We need some good ideas, is what we need.

re: #153 reine.de.tout

ah, I'm not sold on term limits being a good thing, except for the Presidency, to avoid that whole "kingship" thing.

We already have a mechanism for term limits, it's called "voting".

With term limits, there is a loss of experience, institutional history and memory, that might not be the best thing.

If people vote for a corrupt offiicial, like William Jefferson, then they wpuld easily vote for a second corrupt official to replace him. Term limits will not solve that problem; it won't ensure that corrupt people aren't elected.

But it term limits just might ensure that good and experienced people would not get to continue in a job where they can do some good.

IMHO the "loss of experience" is a non-factor.
Term limits will not ensure corrupt people aren't elected, but it will ensure they don't get entrenched.
The good and experienced people I've seen have term-limited themselves. Those people include (Colorado Senator) Hank Brown and (Tennessee Senator) Fred Thompson. Both of those went on to improve conditions as private citizens.

Also, I consider the current Congress to be akin to a "Kingship".

I think that with all of this talk about watering the tree of liberty we should keep in mind that it is not something that we should be inclined to or want to do for light and transient causes.

Just saying.

re: #162 Dar ul Harbarian

OMG

Marcia slept with Greg!

Jan is going to be so pissed.

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

re: #182 Inquisitive

Loved his new version of the song......hope to find it on youtube.

Its in the spinoffs now. Go ding it.

re: #165 Syrah

Is this a credible news outlet? I read the article and it is highly speculative and accusatory and verges on conspiracy theory! Are there any other news sources that are posting military force exercises for domestic crowd control here within the last two weeks?

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

Fixed it.

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

Yea, how about term limits for journalist! Ha, put that in your pipe and smoke it Cog!

re: #135 neocon hippie

Someone in my neighborhood has left outside my dwelling and those a couple blocks around copies of the following article by Naomi Wolf:

Thousands of Troops Are Deployed on US Streets Ready to Carry Out "Crowd Control"

The pamphleteer writes at the top:

How should we respond to this, as neighbors and concerned citizens? Let's get together and discuss it. I have some ideas. Maybe you do, too.

She left her email address, phone number, and address (a block from me, a few doors down from my girlfriend).

Is it permissible to post her email address if anyone wants to -- nicely -- give her feedback?

I tossed it into the recycling bin myself.

Just write her phone number and email address, along with "for a good time..." in the bathroom stalls at a sports bar or nightclub. Hilarity ensues.

What was the flag with the big "O" behind Obama today?

re: #193 Mich-again

Fixed it.

LOL

re: #165 Syrah

You could attend here little neighborhood meeting with the express purpose and plan to work them all up into a frenzy of paranoia.

I trust NORTHCOM. The lefties and the Paulians are wetting their pants, though.

re: #103 Sharmuta

It was Free Token who said we need to improve civics education, and I agree. People have no idea what they're doing, what they're supporting. They have no idea about American government or the Constitution.

I can't tell you the number of times I've corrected people when they mis-speak about the Constitution. Some will even argue with me until I whip out my pocked Constitution and show them they are wrong on a point. Unbelievable! Hell- just last week I made a comment about the Constitutional requirements for the Senate and a co-worker of mine had no idea there was an age limit! And she gets to vote, fercryinoutloud!

Oh my god.... I have one one my wall, never even thought of one that I could carry around on my person.... Sharmuta you gorgeous constitution toting babe..... ;)

re: #154 CyanSnowHawk

The other way sounds a bit like that 4 person video game from the late 80's, Gauntlet.

"Warrior needs food badly."

Mars needs women.

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

If I give her the benefit of the doubt, Palin is still better than Obama.

re: #162 Dar ul Harbarian

OMG

Marcia slept with Greg!

Bless her heart! She's come through a lot.

re: #196 jamgarr

What was the flag with the big "O" behind Obama today?

It's the Ohio flag.

re: #196 jamgarr

What was the flag with the big "O" behind Obama today?

Ohio state flag.

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

Bet you two have some interesting conversations.

re: #135 neocon hippie

Lovely.

Why do these people neglect mention that it is difficult to "overcome" an armed citizenry?

re: #196 jamgarr

What was the flag with the big "O" behind Obama today?

Ohio's state flag.

re: #173 CyanSnowHawk

Don't say that too loudly, the left is so unhinged they think W is a tyrant.

The Left is so unhinged that they don't believe that Castro is a tyrant.

re: #100 Palandine

A couple of weeks ago, a letter was read in our archdiocese from the acting bishop. No Catholic in good standing can vote for a pro-abortion candidate, or they are a participant in abortion.

Perfectly legal letter. Doesn't mention any party. It'll give a lot of blue-collar voters heartburn, but many will do the right thing.

BTW, they just showed Bocephus' "Family Tradition" on H & C. I LOVE that redneck...

/Palandine's ring tone is "A Country Boy Can Survive"

We got about the same thing in our parish .......

Since you mentioned Hank ....... and your ringtone ...... let me take this opportunity to once again ........ post my favorite video of Hank Jr. song ........the videos of our troops are great ......(I know I posted it before but .....oh, well)

re: #52 Cognito

I'm pondering how we could inject sanity back into our political system. How is it that our first president -- and perhaps our finest -- managed to hold the office and not only do a good job, but reject overtures for kingship?

Are we simply morally bankrupt now? Or have we built moral hazard into the system?

I think term limits for Congress would help. They get stuck into the system, drunk with power, and don't dare make any important decisions for fear their careers might falter. Term limits would preempt that.

Any other thoughts?

I guess every human endeavor is subject to human frailties, as we all too often see. I think the trick is to revere the system and the our country not for what it can do for us, but for what it allows us to do for ourselves. We take, but only a rare few ever really give back to our country. It is a symbiotic relationship, our country and ourselves - it helps us, but only if we help it.

I guess that "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" is really the goal for which we should strive and that philosophy may be the only thing that stands between us and oblivion.

Maybe McCain's "Country First" is more powerful than than your garden variety political slogan. Maybe it's a two word road map away from where we currently find ourselves.

re: #194 Walter L. Newton

Yea, how about term limits for journalist! Ha, put that in your pipe and smoke it Cog!

I don't think most of their parents would let them back home.

re: #196 jamgarr

What was the flag with the big "O" behind Obama today?

Ohio state flag.

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

And her issues are?

re: #193 Mich-again

Fixed it.

ROTFLMAO...I think I soiled myself...damn you Mich!

Now I'm off to bed.

re: #183 Ward Cleaver

Marcia, was, and still is, hot.

You got that right! If Lucy Lawless hadn't been cast as Three, Maureen should have got the nod!

re: #162 Dar ul Harbarian

OMG

Marcia slept with Greg!

Good thing Greg didn't sleep with papa brady

Part of me was hoping that - part of me wasn't

re: #189 CyanSnowHawk

Jan is going to be so pissed.

Why? Rumor has it she slept with Marcia too......

OBAMA CAUGHT SAYING ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL SHAPE HIS PRESIDENTIAL AGENDA

re: #203 Ward Cleaver

It's the Ohio flag.

There are only two jurisdictional (nation/state/province/territory) flags in the entire world that aren't rectangular: Ohio and Nepal.

re: #203 Ward Cleaver

Hah! We have a winner!

re: #196 jamgarr

What was the flag with the big "O" behind Obama today?

It was a Zero.
Standing for the Number of Ohio football teams that the University of Michigan can beat

re: #176 J.D.

Old news, huh?
I see you posted that at 10:25 AM.

Before I moved down here, I was an election officer and we were ever so encouraged to point out the deceased and those who had moved...How can it be so difficult to keep an eye on this when it's all a matter of public record? What are they doing all year if not those sorts of things.

Upholding the voting rights of Imaginary Americans.

re: #213 The Shadow Do

And her issues are?

She's a nut?

re: #147 IslandLibertarian

Vespucci lost the war of identity politics in his day. Columbus won.

re: #218 doriangrey

Stay out of my head, damn it!
/

re: #161 Killian Bundy

10/13 McCain

/simply an amazing speech, if he can keep this up for another three weeks, we'll win going away

that was exactly the type of thing I was speaking about this morning, he needs to harken back to his 'stand up and fight' theme from his acceptance speech.
I agree that the time is right for this meessage right now, he is going to catch people lifting up their heads from all this financial armageddon we've been going through, they're going to see hope coming from McCain and a risky alternative in Obama.

re: #153 reine.de.tout

That latter line is the one being pushed by Bloomberg in NYC. He wants a 3d term, but the law as passed by a voter referendum limits him to 2 terms.

He says he's the only one qualified to lead the city at a time of financial upheaval on Wall Street.

I'd like folks to remember that it was smart people like Bloomberg who pushed us into this mess in the first place. Lots of smart people saw nothing wrong with subprime lending and the toxic paper produced as derivatives. Lots of money was made in good times, but the moment the housing market slowed and began retrograde, all hell broke loose.

Now, Bloomberg hopes to capitalize on people's fears to demand a 3d term.

I'd point out further that he's made some truly bad choices over the years, including mandating fuel economy standards that automakers simply can't provide because they lack the production capabilities, and his primary solution to the city's budget crunch isn't to cut spending, but to consider raising still more taxes. Only belatedly does cost control come into play.

re: #220 gmsc

There are only two jurisdictional (nation/state/province/territory) flags in the entire world that aren't rectangular: Ohio and Nepal.

It may become the Obama flag too, if McCain doesn't win Ohio.

re: #103 Sharmuta

It was Free Token who said we need to improve civics education, and I agree. People have no idea what they're doing, what they're supporting. They have no idea about American government or the Constitution.

I can't tell you the number of times I've corrected people when they mis-speak about the Constitution. Some will even argue with me until I whip out my pocked Constitution and show them they are wrong on a point. Unbelievable! Hell- just last week I made a comment about the Constitutional requirements for the Senate and a co-worker of mine had no idea there was an age limit! And she gets to vote, fercryinoutloud!

We've had Lizards insist that there is NO RIGHT TO VOTE, tht voting is a privilege. Just the other day, in fact. Cognito whipped out the 15th Amendment.

re: #193 Mich-again

She's not in most areas but she is when it comes to politics. In which case a rather nasty side of her comes out. She's become an Olby fan, and she's convinced the election is over. That she hears Billy Kristol on NPR doesn't help.

We mostly stay away from politics as a subject, as we have for many years.

re: #224 Ward Cleaver

She's a nut?

Acorn

Wow, some organization called Healthcare America, or something like that, has had the same commercial blasting McCain at least 8 times tonight on MNF.

re: #228 alien_mind

that was exactly the type of thing I was speaking about this morning, he needs to harken back to his 'stand up and fight' theme from his acceptance speech.
I agree that the time is right for this meessage right now, he is going to catch people lifting up their heads from all this financial armageddon we've been going through, they're going to see hope coming from McCain and a risky alternative in Obama.

Unfortunately, that speech has only 300 or more views on YouTube

re: #135 neocon hippie

Someone is afraid that Obama isn't going to win. Very afraid.

Heh. I love the smell of moonbat fear in the evening.

re: #223 The Other Les

Upholding the voting rights of Imaginary Americans.

I can see where that could keep you busy...

As for term limits in general - I abhor them. The best way to deal with term limits is to vote the bums out of office. However, if the voters have passed laws that institute term limits, the only way to get around that is for the voters to change their minds and vote accordingly. Anything else is a conflict of interest that is nothing more than self-dealing (again, the NYC case).

re: #200 Ward Cleaver

Mars needs women.

Someone set us up the bomb.

re: #224 Ward Cleaver

She's a nut?

And dad liked her sister best!

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

Well, your girlfriend is abusing her medical position. We on LGF can "surmise" that someone shows a certain behavior, but without sitting down with Ms. Palin for a good number of therapy session, you girlfriend cannot know if Ms. Palin is suffering from anything.

Tell her to get her head out of the DSM.

re: #234 Cartman

Wow, some organization called Healthcare America, or something like that, has had the same commercial blasting McCain at least 8 times tonight on MNF.

Oh crap, who's playing? I forgot.

re: #69 Dar ul Harbarian

Just think:

300 million Americans

Rule out people less than 35 and older people who are infirm and you have about 100 million possible presidential candidates. Of those, lets just say, 25% have some criminal record or other disqualifying history.

That leaves 75 million people.

Of those, lets say 0.01% have the intelligence, character traits, and education to be a good President.

That leaves 7,500 excellent Presidential candidates.

And look what happens election after election.

God must hate us.

I forget who said it, but a good rule of thumb is that no one who wants the Presidency should be allowed anywhere near it.

re: #236 Intrepid

Believe me, she has no fear. She feeds herself daily with an extensive MSM diet. She is utterly confident that Obama will walk away with it.

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

Take her on a trip to Alaska.

re: #242 Ward Cleaver

Oh crap, who's playing? I forgot.

WARD!
The Browns and someone...Browns were up last I checked, strangely enough...

re: #190 neocon hippiere: #232 neocon hippie

She's not in most areas but she is when it comes to politics. In which case a rather nasty side of her comes out. She's become an Olby fan, and she's convinced the election is over. That she hears Billy Kristol on NPR doesn't help.

We mostly stay away from politics as a subject, as we have for many years.

Double life. Yeech. Hows that work?

re: #245 itellu3times

Take her on a trip to Alaska.

And leave her there.....

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

Well, your girlfriend is abusing her medical position. We on LGF can "surmise" that someone shows a certain behavior, but without sitting down with Ms. Palin for a good number of therapy session, you girlfriend cannot know if Ms. Palin is suffering from anything.

I don't know...my mother, a retired physician, likes to try to outdiagnose the docs on ER. She usually wins, too.

re: #190 neocon hippie

My LLL girlfriend, who is a psychologist, is convinced that Sarah Palin is a narcissistic psychopath. She's also convinced that she's a biblical literalist who has no conception of reality.

Good luck, with that one. You're gonna need it.

Giants vs. Browns 14-17

re: #103 Sharmuta

...so I'm not the only lizard with a pocket constitution. cool!

Phillies - Dodgers 3-3

Puma Pac has some good photos in it's blog. Donate money to them.

re: #243 Steffan

I forget who said it, but a good rule of thumb is that no one who wants the Presidency should be allowed anywhere near it.

I think that was Arthur C. Clarke in one of his stories. The President was selected by computer. The job was sort of like jury duty, or being drafted. The President was given early release for doing well.

re: #247 Mich-again

By staying away from politics 98% of the time.

More drivel from Rochelle Riley

Republicans unleash attack puppies on Barack Obama

re: #191 Mich-again

Its in the spinoffs now. Go ding it.

Thank you and on my way....! ! !

re: #208 The Other Les

The Left is so unhinged that they don't believe that Castro is a tyrant.

Have you seen the report on the Venezuelan economy under Chavez (Video Version here)? It's tanked, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Chavez being a tyrant.