And Now for Some Tommy Emmanuel
Video | Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:06:16 pm PDT
Blue Moon, swingin’ hard.
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Video | Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:06:16 pm PDT
Blue Moon, swingin’ hard.
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DesertSage Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:13:35pm |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:13:45pm |
OMG, I'm watching the news and Michelle was speaking less than a half a mile away today.
/I feel tainted
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:14:23pm |
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Desert Dog Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:15:50pm |
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nightintheruts Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:15:50pm |
Excellent Charles.
you put some guitar greats on here.
no matter the mood, I can listen to some good playing like this...or blues riffs...and totally chill.
awesome.
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DesertSage Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:16:41pm |
There are more comments on this thread by people named Desert than anyone else combined !
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nightintheruts Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:17:19pm |
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wrenchwench Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:17:27pm |
I'll listen to that as soon as I'm tired of listening to this. I'm on the third go-round. My mood must be rude.
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DesertSage Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:17:42pm |
re: #10 Desert Dog
Mom always liked you more....
Then why did she keep sticking my head in the freezer?
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Desert Dog Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:18:20pm |
Mr. Emmanuel has a nice grasp of that there guitar. It is always a joy to watch someone who makes it look effortless but sounds so good.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:18:27pm |
re: #12 Onslow
How's his cover of "Smoke on the Water"?
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JacksonTn Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:19:50pm |
re: #5 Killian Bundy
OMG, I'm watching the news and Michelle was speaking less than a half a mile away today.
/I feel tainted
Guard your pie....................
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Desert Dog Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:20:45pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:22:14pm |
To have this level of command over one's hands is simply amazing.
It spits in the face of communism's Weltanschauung.
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willowone Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:24:29pm |
wow my page is really messed up
anyone elses?
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willowone Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:25:01pm |
23 ggt 10/13/08 8:21:42 pm reply quote 0
Thanks Charles! I've been needing some Tommy.
24 MandyManners 10/13/08 8:22:14 pm reply quote 0
To have this level of command over one's hands is simply amazing.
It spits in the face of communism's Weltanschauung.
25 willowone 10/13/08 8:24:29 pm reply quote 0
wow my page is really messed up
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pat Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:25:15pm |
re: #24 MandyManners
To have this level of command over one's hands is simply amazing..
You ought to see what i can do with a back massage. ;)
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:25:39pm |
Damn it, where's mama winger?
Kitten Bill is now six months old, the size of a small raccoon, and five times more destructive.
/can we make his nuts go bye-bye yet?
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cincinnati_kid37 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:25:43pm |
re: #12 Onslow
How's his cover of "Smoke on the Water"?
There's a little Smoke on the Water in this one.
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wrenchwench Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:26:15pm |
It spits in the face of communism's Weltanschauung.
That has "rotating title" written all over it.
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wrenchwench Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:27:40pm |
re: #28 Killian Bundy
Damn it, where's mama winger?
Kitten Bill is now six months old, the size of a small raccoon, and five times more destructive.
/can we make his nuts go bye-bye yet?
I'm no mama winger, but my two lost theirs at five and a half months.
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:27:48pm |
re: #28 Killian Bundy
Damn it, where's mama winger?
Kitten Bill is now six months old, the size of a small raccoon, and five times more destructive.
/can we make his nuts go bye-bye yet?
Oh, for fuck's sake, KB.
I just spewed some nice ethos water all over the place.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:30:18pm |
re: #34 MandyManners
I just spewed some nice ethos water all over the place.
Er, what is ethos water?
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Cartman Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:30:43pm |
re: #28 Killian Bundy
/can we make his nuts go bye-bye yet?
Who's gonna give Kitten Bill the bad news? ;)
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ggt Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:32:40pm |
re: #35 Sharmuta
Strange, I don't realize I need some Tommy until Charles posts some.
Good thing we have Charles in Charge :0
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:33:36pm |
re: #38 ggt
Strange, I don't realize I need some Tommy until Charles posts some.
Good thing we have Charles in Charge :0
And better our Charles than Scott Baio.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:33:40pm |
re: #33 wrenchwench
I'm no mama winger, but my two lost theirs at five and a half months.
/well then, it's time for him to meet Dr. Howe, the best feline surgeon on the planet
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ggt Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:33:45pm |
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Desert Dog Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:33:45pm |
re: #35 Sharmuta
Pandora is great, isn't it? I have it running all day at my office.....
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quickredfox Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:33:51pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:34:55pm |
re: #42 Desert Dog
Pandora is great, isn't it? I have it running all day at my office.....
Pandora's huge in my office! And I have it going at home a lot too.
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nightintheruts Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:35:01pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:36:30pm |
re: #36 Walter L. Newton
Er, what is ethos water?
Starkbutt's brand.
I've had this particular bottle for about four months. I've washed it in the dish-washer REPEATEDLY.
The bottle's integrity is still complete.
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newsjunkie_ky Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:37:10pm |
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:38:48pm |
re: #12 Onslow
How's his cover of "Smoke on the Water"?
OMG!
Does that bring back memories of my brother playing that over and over on his guitar with and amplifier.
We thought it was so frikkin cool!
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alone in 90210 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:39:29pm |
Oh, thank you for this. What a gift at the end of a rather grim day.
When I was the right age I lived in Wichita and one of our favorite meet place was the Blue Moon.
I loved the song before that and I cannot remember a better rendition than this.
I usually just lurk but I had to comment on this.
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Moe Katz Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:39:31pm |
Speaking of swinging, Herb Ellis and Eldon Shamblin together here on "There'll Never Be Another You." Western swing guitar apotheosis.....
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ggt Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:40:47pm |
Went to the pumpkin patch today. Got my annual supply of pumpkin butter, pumpkin dog treats and a wonderful creation called a pumpkin cake roll (sweet cream cheese rolled in).
I'd share, but I only got enuf for me and it's only open for a few years a year. Ya' know . . .
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cincinnati_kid37 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:41:05pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:41:48pm |
re: #47 MandyManners
Starkbutt's brand.
I've had this particular bottle for about four months. I've washed it in the dish-washer REPEATEDLY.
The bottle's integrity is still complete.
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Metal Man Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:42:51pm |
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itellu3times Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:42:52pm |
She was only a whiskey maker,
but he loved her still.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:43:02pm |
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wrenchwench Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:43:10pm |
re: #55 cincinnati_kid37
Oooh, thanks! I was gonna look for that one later!
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:43:59pm |
re: #50 newsjunkie_ky
You're welcome! I'm always glad to turn others on to pandora.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:45:20pm |
re: #56 Oldasdirt
This kid is 4 years old.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
Matched grip to boot.
/I'm more than impress!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:47:03pm |
Good evening all y'all - really late tonight but had a lot of things to do this evening!
I see Charles has again made improvements here, though I don't know why he gives us a symbol next to the Strike, Bold and such that, after the Quote symbol, sorta looks like a one-fingered salute!
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Oldasdirt Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:47:11pm |
re: #66 Killian Bundy
Matched grip to boot.
/I'm more than impress!
Yes,,I think he is 6 now,,and I'm a drummer,,and he is amazing me.
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Bobblehead Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:47:56pm |
Another hilarious goody from Iowahawk. HEY KIDS! REGISTER VOTERS WITH ACORN. Make sure you read the entry form.
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:49:36pm |
Are we talking about young musicians? This kid is 12, playing one of the most demanding instruments on the planet.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:50:25pm |
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:51:38pm |
re: #70 ggt Hey ggt, I was doing more or less ok, until the "football" game tonight, ya know the Browns vs. some junior college junior varsity team!
How are you doing?
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nightintheruts Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:52:07pm |
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ggt Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:52:35pm |
re: #74 realwest
exhausted and allergied out. I'm really going to sleep now.
have a great evening real!
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Cartman Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:52:37pm |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:53:09pm |
/no guitars were touched during this cold, winter outdoor soundcheck
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:54:09pm |
re: #78 Cartman
Don't even THINK about talking to me about the #*$^@ Browns!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:54:59pm |
re: #82 Typicalwhitey
Hey Typicalwhitey! How are ya doing tonight?!
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Castlebravo Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:55:08pm |
Great guitar! Great entertainer.....a certain "genuineness" (is that a word?)
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:55:54pm |
re: #71 rawmuse
one of the most demanding instruments on the planet.
/barely comes with an instruction book, let alone keys, valves, or frets
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:56:05pm |
re: #73 Syrah
Well that is very interesting.
FM is doomed.
LOL!
What I really like is giving the thumbs down to stuff I don't like. Then I never have to hear it again.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:56:16pm |
re: #74 realwest
Hey ggt, I was doing more or less ok, until the "football" game tonight, ya know the Browns vs. some junior college junior varsity team!
How are you doing?
Hey RW.. It's better to get that lose over with now..The pressure on the colts going undefeated throughout the year was way too much for any team to bear..Look at the pats last year..too much pressure..
The Giants are going to the Superbowl. ( barring injury of course )
It's not worth the spotlight of being the only undefeated Superbowl champ..24/7..
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Cartman Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:56:16pm |
re: #81 realwest
I won't, R-Dubs...promise. It was a fluke, but we'll take it!
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cincinnati_kid37 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:56:23pm |
re: #63 wrenchwench
Oooh, thanks! I was gonna look for that one later!
My Pleasure. Tons of great Tommy out there, not enough Stevie Ray..
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Metal Man Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:56:38pm |
People that can do this always amaze me. I've mastered the coordination to master complex game ad other machine controls but have a complete tin ear. Love good music but pretty sure it's outside my abilities to play it just as much as to be an NFL receiver.
Can we take these peoples abilities and give them to the rest of us? I can make my own money but not my own music.
It's only fair:)
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Typicalwhitey Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:57:17pm |
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:57:50pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
/barely comes with an instruction book, let alone keys, valves, or frets
/the seventh position is more art than science
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jwb7605 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:58:20pm |
I'm outta here, >but this might cheer you up. Or not.
(HT: Pajamas Media)
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 8:58:50pm |
re: #88 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops - I'd take that spotlight ANYDAY! But not this year.
Damnit.
I didn't even watch - what did Eli do - through 4 interceptions? We lose MORE defensive players to injury?!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:00:39pm |
re: #92 Typicalwhitey
Been better, been worse. Thanks for asking!
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:00:40pm |
Nice.
I followed that up with some Joe Pass.
I can almost smell a new guitar case and lemon oil again.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:01:33pm |
re: #95 realwest
Hey Hoops - I'd take that spotlight ANYDAY! But not this year.
Damnit.
I didn't even watch - what did Eli do - through 4 interceptions? We lose MORE defensive players to injury?!
I was in and out of the game..the browns came to play tonight..mostly watched baseball...Philly is winning..9th inning 7 to 5..
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:02:18pm |
Hey Charles - I've heard you playing with Stanley Clark on the CD School Days and you play a pretty damn mean guitar yourself - how's about something you did?
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JacksonTn Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:03:32pm |
re: #71 rawmuse
Are we talking about young musicians? This kid is 12, playing one of the most demanding instruments on the planet.
Wow ..... that kid is great .....
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:04:13pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
/barely comes with an instruction book, let alone keys, valves, or frets
And yes, some trombones have valves.
/but that's really inside baseball
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Oldasdirt Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:04:18pm |
re: #71 rawmuse
Are we talking about young musicians? This kid is 12, playing one of the most demanding instruments on the planet.
Nice,very nice
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:04:43pm |
re: #103 JacksonTn
He has got it all, poise, intonation, gorgeous tone.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:06:29pm |
re: #107 Gus 802 Yeppers, very nice! And Charles does do some fantastic playing!
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Cartman Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:08:09pm |
Here's some home-grown blues for ya. Check out the dude playin' the harp. Good stuff!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:08:19pm |
re: #106 rawmuse
Oh sure, but what's he gonna sound like when his voice changes?! Er, uh, I meant........oh, nevermind.
Damn child prodigies!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:09:57pm |
re: #109 Cartman
Huh, not bad, not bad at all! Where'd they get that name, do ya know?
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:10:08pm |
re: #110 realwest
Not only that, but the drummers will still get the girls...
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neocon hippie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:10:11pm |
Saw a great 16 year old jazz trombonist, Natalie Cressman, sit in with Santana last night. Her dad, Jeff, has the trombone chair in the band. They live in Berkeley and I've seen them play a few times.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:10:29pm |
re: #108 realwest
Anything online? I used to listen to Clarke back when I was in my Fusion stage.
Charles played with Clarke?
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:11:56pm |
re: #114 neocon hippie
She is a great talent. I've known them since before Natalie was born.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:13:26pm |
re: #71 rawmuse
Are we talking about young musicians? This kid is 12, playing one of the most demanding instruments on the planet.
Sweet ...
Okay, this one blew me away.
A six year old girl, Emily Bear, who plays the piano and composes her one music. Here she is playing a piece she wrote with the Orlando Symphony Orchestra:
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:13:46pm |
re: #115 Gus 802
Yup, some of Schooldays is on line but the video has a caption saying something about releasing for commercial use or some such.
Here, see for yourself:
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J.D. Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:14:24pm |
re: #101 realwest
Hey Charles - I've heard you playing with Stanley Clark on the CD School Days and you play a pretty damn mean guitar yourself - how's about something you did?
Hey, I bought that recently!
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:14:39pm |
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Cartman Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:14:51pm |
re: #111 realwest
Huh, not bad, not bad at all! Where'd they get that name, do ya know?
I'm not sure. It's kinda like "Little Green Footballs". Nobody knows for sure, and they ain't tellin'. ;)
I grew up with those guys. They've been playin' blues in these parts for over 30 years.
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looking closely Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:15:35pm |
Love the way Emmanuel is accompanying himself with a walking baseline and percussion.
This thumb is the rhythm section!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:16:17pm |
re: #117 Racer X
Hey there Racer X - that's photoshopped - if it was real he couldn't put his arm behind his head like that!
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:16:37pm |
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DesertSage Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:17:14pm |
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Racer X Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:17:26pm |
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:17:55pm |
re: #122 J.D.
Hey hi there {J.D.} - how recently? I got mine about 3 years ago off Amazon!
Was I lying - isn't Charles just a FABULOUS guitarist?!
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Globular Cluster Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:19:02pm |
Charles, how's that fire treating you?
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:20:48pm |
re: #119 realwest
That's him?! Wow, that's actually the version I remember listening to most of the time. That's kind of like a small world thing.
Wah-wah pedal and all. Tight.
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faraway Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:23:02pm |
Liberals think they are so smart when they try DDOS attacks.
I just forward their IPs to the FBI.
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jaunte Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:23:24pm |
re: #60 itellu3times
She was only a whiskey maker,
but he loved her still.
She was pure as the driven snow,
but she drifted.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:24:23pm |
re: #132 Globular Cluster
Charles, how's that fire treating you?
Can't speak for him, but I'm about 15 miles south of the area of the fire (on the opposite end of the valley, really) and when I go outside, all I can smell is ash and smoke.
I wonder where Charles is located.
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:24:28pm |
re: #90 cincinnati_kid37
My Pleasure. Tons of great Tommy out there, not enough Stevie Ray..
Uggh. I was at Alpine Valley the night SRV passed away. Worst night of my life. After all his drug and alcohol problems, Stevie had finally gotten his life together, and his music was never better...
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:24:47pm |
Even listeners who find everything to do with fusion stupid will have to admit this guitarist was smart taking on a far-out nickname that results in many of his credits reading Charles "Icarus" Johnson. As long as the "Icarus" part is in there, it is easy to tell him apart from many other performers with the same name, including the famous guitarist and singer from the gospel group the Sensational Nightingales. Of course, the music itself is a further dead giveaway, the expression chosen in order to hint at a state the aforementioned listeners might rather find themselves in than listening to any of this Johnson's efforts.
Fans of fusion, on the other hand, will point at Johnson's hands and describe the searing lead guitar passages they have created since his tenure with Stanley Clarke from the mid-'70s onward. In addition, he has shown his versatility by adapting to the many demands of a bandleader such as vocalist Al Jarreau and has also played the band game as a member of Pages, an ensemble featuring Jarreau as well as a host of Los Angeles session hotshots. "Automatic" is one of the compositions Johnson co-wrote while flipping through Pages. A single anecdote pinpoints this artist's stature in the music business: he has the clout to borrow an amp from pianist George Duke for a gig. ~ Eugene Chadbourne, All Music Guide
/I'm pretty sure he still get's his fair share of royalty checks
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:25:41pm |
re: #126 realwest
Hey there Racer X - that's photoshopped - if it was real he couldn't put his arm behind his head like that!
Either his body expanded or his head shrunk. :)
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:30:27pm |
re: #140 Killian Bundy
Hi Killian - yeah, I seem to remember when some Leftist hack referred to Charles as something less than a stellar musician, Charles said that he has two Platinum records and one Gold record on his wall - what's that hack got on his - a poster of Warhol's Soupcan?! LOL!
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:33:15pm |
re: #140 Killian Bundy
Matter of fact, y'all can go here and learn even more about the multi-talented Charles: [Link: www.answers.com...]
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:33:17pm |
The girl told deputies her mother disciplined her by restricting her water intake, and was primarily given toast to eat. She said she hadn't seen a doctor in several years.She and her 12-year-old brother were taken from the home by Child Protective Services and the girl was admitted to Children's Hospital for treatment of severe malnutrition. She was in the hospital for two weeks.
During the investigation, investigators said they found the girl's mother restricted her water intake to about half of a small Dixie cup per day. The mother only let the girl shower every two or three weeks, and watched her during each shower and bathroom break to keep the girl from surreptitiously drinking water, Urquhart said. "She looked more like she was 8 or 9 years old. Clearly very, very malnourished," Urquhart said. "All of her teeth had to be either pulled or capped
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:34:47pm |
Gee Charles, now that you're arguably one of the top web coders in the world, don't you regret all those years you wasted touring the planet with famous musicians in their prime?
/seriously, you need to write a book
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:35:48pm |
re: #146 Killian Bundy
Gee Charles, now that you're arguably one of the top web coders in the world, don't you regret all those years you wasted touring the planet with famous musicians in their prime?
/seriously, you need to write a book
He needs to wait till technology allows for a throbbing cover.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:36:47pm |
re: #142 JCM
Evening gang, dropping in late.
Any troll bits left on the BBQ?
There was troll tonight? Damn I always miss them.
/well except for the nocturnal ones.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:37:21pm |
re: #144 realwest
Saw that before. There's also a Wiki entry for Charles.
Shows 1976 for School Days. I discovered fusion a couple of years later.
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J.D. Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:39:45pm |
re: #131 realwest
Hey hi there {J.D.} - how recently? I got mine about 3 years ago off Amazon!
Was I lying - isn't Charles just a FABULOUS guitarist?!
Oh yes, he is, {realwest}. Most certainly!
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:43:10pm |
re: #147 JCM
He needs to wait till technology allows for a throbbing cover.
/collaborate with Tammy Bruce and we could be talking the best political manifesto since Mao's Little Red Book
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:43:25pm |
re: #148 BlueCanuck
There was troll tonight? Damn I always miss them.
/well except for the nocturnal ones.
I guess we go hungry.
I did chew on a juicy Chumpskyite co-worker today for a while. I've come to the conclusion, that enforced equality of outcome is there core value, not liberty. Basic words mean very different things, so we're not even arguing on the same sandlot.
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:44:29pm |
re: #153 Killian Bundy
/collaborate with Tammy Bruce and we could be talking the best political manifesto since Mao's Little Red Book
LOL! A Lizard revolution would not be a bad thing.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:46:42pm |
re: #154 JCM
heh heh, the GF has a co-worker that's communist. Comes to me every now and then for help in crushing arguments. Not often though. She loved the Ronald Regan quote about communism though. Still giggles about it actually.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:46:46pm |
re: #155 JCM
LOL! A Lizard revolution would not be a bad thing.
For now, we're going to have to settle for a McCain revolution.
/and we've only got three weeks left to pull it off
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:48:08pm |
re: #150 Cartman
Nice. Very well done, just like a Grumman Bearcat.
"There's a red house over yonder!"
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:49:02pm |
re: #153 Killian Bundy
ROFL!
A truly multi-talented fellow is our Charles!
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shug Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:49:27pm |
re: #156 BlueCanuck
heh heh, the GF has a co-worker that's communist. Comes to me every now and then for help in crushing arguments. Not often though. She loved the Ronald Regan quote about communism though. Still giggles about it actually.
In America you crush Communism.
In soviet Russia, Communism crushes you
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nnorb Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:49:36pm |
Thank you, that was very smooooooth and soooooothing. Just what a soul needs to hear at the end of a long day. Thank you for posting that
Norb
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:49:50pm |
re: #156 BlueCanuck
heh heh, the GF has a co-worker that's communist. Comes to me every now and then for help in crushing arguments. Not often though. She loved the Ronald Regan quote about communism though. Still giggles about it actually.
This same guy has tried to argue that the "Cold War" as a construct of the "industrial military complex" and all the "stories" (gulags, 100 million + dead) are propaganda to keep us in fear, so he war profiteers could get rich. Nothing to fear from communism says he.
I really quit trying for the most part at that point, where do you start deconstruction a world view like that?
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:51:56pm |
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:53:13pm |
re: #145 JCM Ah geez JCM,
"Sheriff spokesman John Urquhart says the girl weighed only 48 pounds when contacted by deputies Friday, and had been given only little food and water for several years."
I can't say what I really feel about her "parents" out here or I'll get deleted and maybe banned, but I think you know what I mean.
Shit.
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solomonpanting Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:54:45pm |
Vote for Obama
McCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is simply a disgrace.
By Christopher Hitchens
Socialism uber alles
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shug Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:55:13pm |
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:56:40pm |
re: #164 realwest
Ah geez JCM,
"Sheriff spokesman John Urquhart says the girl weighed only 48 pounds when contacted by deputies Friday, and had been given only little food and water for several years."
I can't say what I really feel about her "parents" out here or I'll get deleted and maybe banned, but I think you know what I mean.
Shit.
I swear I wear my teeth done grinding my teeth reading stuff like that. I really can't think of "justice" in a case like that, what's fair? Rope dance is too good IMHO.
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:58:18pm |
re: #166 shug
In a Bar.
His boss and and I tried that one night, I got nuthin' but hung over. We literally disproved every point, his boss made note and followed up with documentation. But he still clings to his beliefs.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:58:19pm |
re: #167 JCM
I swear I wear my teeth done grinding my teeth reading stuff like that. I really can't think of "justice" in a case like that, what's fair? Rope dance is too good IMHO.
Sometimes the punishment should fit the crime.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:58:31pm |
re: #162 JCM
This same guy has tried to argue that the "Cold War" as a construct of the "industrial military complex" and all the "stories" (gulags, 100 million + dead) are propaganda to keep us in fear, so he war profiteers could get rich. Nothing to fear from communism says he.
I really quit trying for the most part at that point, where do you start deconstruction a world view like that?
Kruschev's 1956 denunciation of Stalin is a good starting point, since it undermines the credibility of the propaganda to which this person has been exposed.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 9:59:27pm |
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:01:23pm |
re: #170 Shiplord Kirel
Kruschev's 1956 denunciation of Stalin is a good starting point, since it undermines the credibility of the propaganda to which this person has been exposed.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
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shug Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:01:27pm |
re: #168 JCM
His boss and and I tried that one night, I got nuthin' but hung over. We literally disproved every point, his boss made note and followed up with documentation. But he still clings to his beliefs.
I in no way meant for you to take that putz with you to the bar.
the only thing worse than a communist is a communist out on the town
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neocon hippie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:02:15pm |
Disappointed with Hitch but I can't say I'm all that surprised.
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Metal Man Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:02:31pm |
re: #162 JCM
This same guy has tried to argue that the "Cold War" as a construct of the "industrial military complex" and all the "stories" (gulags, 100 million + dead) are propaganda to keep us in fear, so he war profiteers could get rich. Nothing to fear from communism says he.
I really quit trying for the most part at that point, where do you start deconstruction a world view like that?
The denial of Communism's death toll is easier because the media ignored it but no different than Amadinnerjackets denial of the Holocaust.
But F##k the communist purges in the 30s and 40s and then Vietnam, Cambodia etc. how does it not rise into their consciousness.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:03:03pm |
re: #173 shug
I in no way meant for you to take that putz with you to the bar.
the only thing worse than a communist is a communist out on the town
Yeah, because they always want someone else to pick up the tab.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:04:25pm |
re: #165 solomonpanting
Well, ok, it is Slate after all, but still stuff like this:
Last week's so-called town-hall event showed Sen. John McCain to be someone suffering from an increasingly obvious and embarrassing deficit, both cognitive and physical. And the only public events that have so far featured his absurd choice of running mate have shown her to be a deceiving and unscrupulous woman utterly unversed in any of the needful political discourses but easily trained to utter preposterous lies and to appeal to the basest element of her audience. McCain occasionally remembers to stress matters like honor and to disown innuendoes and slanders, but this only makes him look both more senile and more cynical, since it cannot (can it?) be other than his wish and design that he has engaged a deputy who does the innuendoes and slanders for him.
Would sorta indicate that perhaps Hitchens himself
is "suffering from an increasingly obvious and embarrassing deficit, both cognitive and physical." especially when he has to be sober enough to type.
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solomonpanting Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:04:43pm |
re: #171 Killian Bundy
/geez, how much alcohol went into that?
Perhaps he drank a Guinness Bar of World Records.
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shug Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:05:29pm |
Why did John McCain pull out of Michigan? Maybe because Michigan is stuck on stupid
Michigan has become, under the last eight years of Democrat leadership, including representation at the state and federal levels, all of the following:
• 50th in the nation in personal income growth.
• 50th in the nation in its unemployment rate.
• 50th in the nation in employment growth.
• 50th in the nation in the Index of Economic Momentum.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:07:11pm |
Nightmare scenario: The economy will go into free-fall with Obama in office and rewarding the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. Economic collapse and unbridled left-wing thuggery will lead to chaos and possibly civil war.
With the US in disarray and Europeans feeling the pinch themselves, the neo-fascists will gain power over a wide swath of the Continent.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:07:12pm |
Not sure if this has been posted yet, or not, but...
A bozo with a monkey doll gets massive front-page news for days, and McCain supporters are dubbed "haters" -- but millionaire Obama supporter Larry Flynt can make a revolting X-rated pornographic film about Sarah Palin, and no one complains:
Nailin' Paylin -- Sarah Palin lookalike performs XXX sex acts on film.
But really, Republicans are the ones who are disrespectful.
Imagine, just imagine, if a Republican filmmaker make an X-rated porno film with a black porn actor portraying Obama. The entire mediasphere would explode in outrage.
But the reverse? Silence.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:07:33pm |
re: #171 Killian Bundy
Well given what his tolerance level must be by now, I'm thinking at least one, maybe two, quarts. I mean it's not only mean spirited, but it is rather poorly written too.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:07:55pm |
re: #179 shug
Why did John McCain pull out of Michigan? Maybe because Michigan is stuck on stupid
Michigan has become, under the last eight years of Democrat leadership, including representation at the state and federal levels, all of the following:
• 50th in the nation in personal income growth.
• 50th in the nation in its unemployment rate.
• 50th in the nation in employment growth.
• 50th in the nation in the Index of Economic Momentum.
/foothold of Islam in America, don't forget that, not like there's any positive correlation or anything
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solomonpanting Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:08:17pm |
re: #177 realwest
Well, ok, it is Slate after all, but still stuff like this:
Would sorta indicate that perhaps Hitchens himself
is "suffering from an increasingly obvious and embarrassing deficit, both cognitive and physical." especially when he has to be sober enough to type.
See #178.
Hic.....
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:09:47pm |
re: #173 shug
I in no way meant for you to take that putz with you to the bar.
the only thing worse than a communist is a communist out on the town
LOL!
He's a pretty likable fellow in many ways, just his politics.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:10:47pm |
re: #181 zombie
Not sure if this has been posted yet, or not, but...
A bozo with a monkey doll gets massive front-page news for days, and McCain supporters are dubbed "haters" -- but millionaire Obama supporter Larry Flynt can make a revolting X-rated pornographic film about Sarah Palin, and no one complains:
Nailin' Paylin -- Sarah Palin lookalike performs XXX sex acts on film.
But really, Republicans are the ones who are disrespectful.
Imagine, just imagine, if a Republican filmmaker make an X-rated porno film with a black porn actor portraying Obama. The entire mediasphere would explode in outrage.
But the reverse? Silence.
What are you going to do about it?
/you have more media clout than most of the rest of us combined
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:12:13pm |
re: #186 Killian Bundy
What are you going to do about it?
/you have more media clout than most of the rest of us combined
I'm working on it. (Not this news story specifically, but...). Look for a new zombietime posting tomorrow. I think it should make some waves!
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:12:14pm |
re: #179 shug
Read a few comments there, some of them are trashing the Big Three. Unfortunately the Big 3 have been in decline for over 20 years. A good responsible government could have corrected a few of the problems in that time frame in respect to jobs.
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fishbob Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:12:16pm |
re: #177 realwest
Well, ok, it is Slate after all, but still stuff like this:
Would sorta indicate that perhaps Hitchens himself
is "suffering from an increasingly obvious and embarrassing deficit, both cognitive and physical." especially when he has to be sober enough to type.
All bets are off leading up to Nov 4. I suspect the more harsh stuff from the lefties is on the way. I thought the MSM couldn't dip any lower, but alas, never say never. I'm kind of wondering what the final jab will be....say.... in a week or so.
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:12:57pm |
re: #180 Shiplord Kirel
Nightmare scenario: The economy will go into free-fall with Obama in office and rewarding the very people who caused the crisis in the first place. Economic collapse and unbridled left-wing thuggery will lead to chaos and possibly civil war.
With the US in disarray and Europeans feeling the pinch themselves, the neo-fascists will gain power over a wide swath of the Continent.
McCain wins: We buy Europe, and kick Islamofascist butt back to Mecca.
That sounds better.
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jcw46 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:13:18pm |
Regardless of the outcome of this race the News Media, television and print, must pay for their utter disregard of fairness and truth.
Most conservatives have been aware of the slanted picture the News Media presents to the American public but it has gone beyond any reasonable bounds into the realm of propaganda and borders on treason.
THEY MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY CONSERVATIVES.
A boycott of all purchased services provided by all of the Liberal News Media must begin immediately. Since the First Amendment disallows, with good reason, any restrictions on them by government, then it is up to the public to punish them for their blatant manipulation, through omission or commission, of the facts concerning all the candidates. They no longer should be given the benefit of the doubt and should be assumed to be lying in some manner about all of their "reporting". Anyone who disagrees should reexamine these past months and explain in what particular I am in error.
The audio-visual entertainment industry, either owners of or participants in the News Media, should also be part of this boycott. Their money, influence and other resources have been made available to the liberal left for many years now. They have become a consistent source of propaganda and lies concerning this country and conservatism. They must be deprived of as much of their profits as are accounted for by conservatives. We have given our enemies the resources to defeat us and destroy this country just as the buying foreign oil funds the terrorists and other enemies of this country.
Remind your family and friends of like-mind to do what they can to avoid putting anymore cash into the pocket of those who will destroy our way of life.
"A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left."
ecclesiastes 10:2
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:14:09pm |
re: #181 zombie
What are his other publications that he puts out? Only way to vote against something like that is with a wallet.
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shug Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:14:15pm |
re: #181 zombie
Not sure if this has been posted yet, or not, but...
A bozo with a monkey doll gets massive front-page news for days, and McCain supporters are dubbed "haters" -- but millionaire Obama supporter Larry Flynt can make a revolting X-rated pornographic film about Sarah Palin, and no one complains:
Nailin' Paylin -- Sarah Palin lookalike performs XXX sex acts on film.
But really, Republicans are the ones who are disrespectful.
Imagine, just imagine, if a Republican filmmaker make an X-rated porno film with a black porn actor portraying Obama. The entire mediasphere would explode in outrage.
But the reverse? Silence.
Disgusting, yet not surprising.
I don't blame the democrats. I don't blame the biased media.
I blame the millions of ignorant Americans who can't do their basic homework and get the truth. I blame the millions of shiftless Americans who vote Democrat because that's what their family does. I blame the fools who enable this.
but since you mentioned it.
I wonder what that Obama porno could be titled?
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:15:09pm |
What's Mark Steyn calling this, the Cold Civil War?
That's about right.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:16:34pm |
re: #179 shug
Hey Shug - didja read the comments to that column?
They are absolutely hilarious!
Still and all, given that the Obama has decided to manifest his support for campaign finance reform by accepting contributions from tens of thousands of "Americans" (they were too, they checked off "I am an American Citizen") in Iran Syria, Gaza and Tunisia and by reneging on his promise to accept public financing, I would think that McCain could spend a few thousand bucks there - not with any hope of winning, but because "giving up" on Michigan sends a horrible message for his campaign.
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JCM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:16:37pm |
Checkin' out for the night.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:16:50pm |
re: #187 zombie
I'm working on it. (Not this news story specifically, but...). Look for a new zombietime posting tomorrow. I think it should make some waves!
/McCain suddenly lurched out of his campaign funeral slumber Monday
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:17:46pm |
re: #192 BlueCanuck
What are his other publications that he puts out? Only way to vote against something like that is with a wallet.
The only one that I now about is called Hustler. He probably has others, though.
You shouldn't be buying Hustler just on general principles in any case, regardless of the publisher's politics.
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solomonpanting Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:17:49pm |
Off to bed and I'll leave you with this sample page from AP.
Find the pro-McCain/Palin articles and the anti Obama/Biden ones.....I'll wait.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:19:41pm |
re: #191 jcw46
Regardless of the outcome of this race the News Media, television and print, must pay for their utter disregard of fairness and truth.
Most conservatives have been aware of the slanted picture the News Media presents to the American public but it has gone beyond any reasonable bounds into the realm of propaganda and borders on treason.THEY MUST BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE BY CONSERVATIVES.
But, but, if you disagree with them or criticize them or take away their livelihood you are engaging in censorship and depriving them of their constitutional rights.
/garden variety moonbat
Meanwhile, on the Napa Valley front:
100+ Obama brownshirts supporters protest newspaper's endorsement of McCain.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:20:22pm |
Watergate has become the revisionist preference of so called American educators. From my understanding it takes up a good portion of history books today including “The Reagan Years.” In essence then the accepted academic norm is to instill a negative review of Republicans since the days of Watergate.
Given this, Republicans by way of Nixon has become the perennial straw man of the academic left that permeates our institutions today and subsequently the mores of youth today.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:21:14pm |
re: #194 Irene NYC
Hi Irene - well I for one pray it will remain a cold civil war but I suspect all bets are off the table about that if Obama wins - especially if he wins some true battleground states because of ACORN or ACORN type fraud.
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pat Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:21:21pm |
Wonder what the Hair Do of the Ohio Secretary of State is? The media seemed obsessed with her Florida GOP counterpart.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:21:26pm |
zombie,
Glad to hear that all the buildings on Angel Island were saved.
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pat Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:22:35pm |
Hitchens, an atheist who loves Black Theology. Useful idiot.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:24:10pm |
re: #203 realwest
Hi Irene - well I for one pray it will remain a cold civil war but I suspect all bets are off the table about that if Obama wins - especially if he wins some true battleground states because of ACORN or ACORN type fraud.
Evening real,
Thanks for posting the music link. I played it while washing the dishes.
Well, I think in my lifetime this civil war is going to heat up and ignite.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:24:12pm |
re: #197 Killian Bundy
/McCain suddenly lurched out of his campaign funeral slumber Monday
Nice! McCain's great speech only confirms my theory.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:25:29pm |
re: #209 zombie
Nice! McCain's great speech only confirms my theory.
Okay, zombie, don't keep us on pins and needles. What's your theory?
;)
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:26:16pm |
re: #205 Irene NYC
zombie,
Glad to hear that all the buildings on Angel Island were saved.
Yeah, I thought that was the case -- from my vantage point last night (as I mentioned) it looked like they were all going to be spared.
Only half the island was incinerated -- not bad, considering what it looked like. I was thinking more like in the 70-75% range.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:27:54pm |
re: #208 Irene NYC
I'm afraid you're right about that - terribly afraid.
And pissed off at the Democratic Party could nominate someone who is persoanlly so totally unqualified to be POTUS and Leader of the Free World, but who, by his own choosing, hangs out with the likes of Wright, Ayers, ACORN and, of course, Michelle.
Just a total lack of judgement.
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Winslow Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:28:15pm |
zombie,
Is there a way for me to link to individual pictures on zombietime?
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:28:35pm |
re: #210 Irene NYC
Okay, zombie, don't keep us on pins and needles. What's your theory?
;)
Nothing too surprising for LGF readers -- my upcoming essay is really nothing more than an expansion on various themes that have cropped up in my comments here over the last month or so. I decided to just sit down, take some time, and craft them into a longer piece for the world at large to ponder.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:30:08pm |
re: #206 pat
Hitchens of course isn't exactly an atheist. He's an anti-theist. More than likely he fears Palin's past experience with Pentecostalism.
I certainly hope that Hitchens realizes that he is endorsing Diversity Inc. which in my estimation will lead to the local codification of Sharia-Like laws and their subsequent normalization.
Hitchens has a tendency towards cluelessness depending on his state and hedonistic intent.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:30:44pm |
re: #213 Winslow
zombie,
Is there a way for me to link to individual pictures on zombietime?
Yes. Just go to the page in question, and drag the photo you want to the address bar in the browser. You'll get a page with just that picture. Alternately, you can right-click or control-click on the picture and choose "Open image in new window" (or the equivalent for you browser).
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:32:35pm |
re: #214 zombie
Looking forward to reading it. I hope you also address all the ACORN registration fraud.
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shug Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:33:09pm |
I think campbell brown has lost her marbles
So what if Obama was Arab or Muslim? So what if John McCain was Arab or Muslim? Would it matter?
Yes it would Campbell.
When did that become a disqualifier for higher office in our country?
09-11-01
Silly girl.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:33:19pm |
re: #202 Gus 802
Christopher Hitchens
re: #206 pat
Hitchens, an atheist who loves Black Theology. Useful idiot.
re: #215 Gus 802
Hitchens of course isn't exactly an atheist. He's an anti-theist. More than likely he fears Palin's past experience with Pentecostalism.
I certainly hope that Hitchens realizes that he is endorsing Diversity Inc. which in my estimation will lead to the local codification of Sharia-Like laws and their subsequent normalization.
Hitchens has a tendency towards cluelessness depending on his state and hedonistic intent.
Hitchens really really pissed me off with his Obama endorsement this morning. Absolutely unforgiveable. Previously, I actually admired him (probably more than many people here) for his insights -- prior to today, at least. But he just flushed his credibility down the toilet with one column.
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gmsc Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:33:35pm |
Tom Emmanuel? Isn't that the guy protecting Mahoney and his mistress scandal?
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gmsc Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:34:44pm |
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:34:56pm |
These are times that try the souls of men.
And thoughts turn to things like these.
Because, you never know.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:35:19pm |
re: #218 Irene NYC
Looking forward to reading it. I hope you also address all the ACORN registration fraud.
Sorry. Nope. My essay won't be about any particular news event or political fact, but about strategies and ideas.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:36:34pm |
re: #203 realwest
Hi Irene - well I for one pray it will remain a cold civil war but I suspect all bets are off the table about that if Obama wins - especially if he wins some true battleground states because of ACORN or ACORN type fraud.
I can just see a hastily armed force of media-conformist lefties laying siege to some anti-Obama enclave, perhaps one that is suspected of harboring fugitives like GW Bush and D Cheney.
This people's militia would arrive chanting and singing, spiffed out in new uniforms (Chebama t-shirt and BDU pants) and on fire with the righteous zeal of revolutionary change, but they would mutiny the first time they missed a mandatory bathroom break or had to go three days without Starbuck's. What they might actually do with their weapons doesn't bear thinking about. When faced with the inevitable disaster, their first impulse will be to call for a UN peacekeeping force but that will bring them another rude surprise.
To paraphrase Abe Lincoln, the combined armies and police forces of Eurabia could not fight their way from Galveston to Crawford in 100 years even if civilians were the only opposition.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:36:43pm |
re: #220 zombie
Hitchens really really pissed me off with his Obama endorsement this morning. Absolutely unforgiveable. Previously, I actually admired him (probably more than many people here) for his insights -- prior to today, at least. But he just flushed his credibility down the toilet with one column.
I never thought Hitchens would endorse McCain. First, because when all is said and done, he is a leftist. Second, he has always had deep feelings for his non-white brothers. Third, I think he's tired of being ignored by his old friends and receiving all the adulation that he did previously. It's hard to go from the tippity top of the heap to being scorned and ignored.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:37:28pm |
re: #224 zombie
Sorry. Nope. My essay won't be about any particular news event or political fact, but about strategies and ideas.
I thought ACORN was strategy, but whatever you write about will be a delight, as always, to read.
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Scion9 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:37:37pm |
re: #162 JCM
This same guy has tried to argue that the "Cold War" as a construct of the "industrial military complex" and all the "stories" (gulags, 100 million + dead) are propaganda to keep us in fear, so he war profiteers could get rich. Nothing to fear from communism says he.
I really quit trying for the most part at that point, where do you start deconstruction a world view like that?
I have to think that this 'worldview' is just openly dishonest. On paper, forget in practice, Communism espouses the absolute need for wide spread murder of dissenters, even peaceful dissenters. It makes no bones about any other options. Communism's built in mechanism for dealing with the types of people that are given to gaming the system to get ahead, is murder.
The theory being that eventually you can kill enough entrepreneurial and opportunistic people that there just will not be any more. That eventually after enough institutionalised murder society will deliver a 'New Man'. Of course, Communism fails to address the kind of 'New Man' you will arrive at in this society built on a genocidal bloodlust directed against relatively common human behavior. Apparently he will be extremely self-sacrificing in regards to sharing the fruits of his labor with others to alleviate suffering from deprivation, but conversely find human suffering that derives from actual physical oppression and murder morally acceptable, or possibly even virtuous. Of course, no one ever accused Karl Marx of being a genius. Oh wait...
Where exactly do these peace loving Communists really think that the ideology goes? There is this common meme that 'Communism works on paper'. I guess it does if you are an idiot.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:39:20pm |
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel
To paraphrase Abe Lincoln, the combined armies and police forces of Eurabia could not fight their way from Galveston to Crawford in 100 years even if civilians were the only opposition.
Isn't the USA the only country in the world where the civilians are legally allowed to own all manners of firearms? That in itself should give any one pause for thought. . . . .
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:39:40pm |
re: #222 gmsc
Unreal... New 8th Grade English Textbooks Now Contain 15 Page Section on Obama!
Un-freakin-credible.
Every single day, I encounter at least three election-related news stories that absolutely blow my mind. This is one of them. The Left has become a Juggernaut of Horror.
Got to put a steel rod in the spokes.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:40:02pm |
re: #119 realwest
Yup, some of Schooldays is on line but the video has a caption saying something about releasing for commercial use or some such.
Here, see for yourself: [Link: www.youtube.com...]
So you shoudn't play it, you know?!
I'm not really a jazz fan, and frankly I don't know what I'm hearing there (how many guitars are there? Which one is Charles?) but that is some funky shizzit.
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:40:12pm |
re: #229 BlueCanuck
Isn't the USA the only country in the world where the civilians are legally allowed to own all manners of firearms? That in itself should give any one pause for thought. . . . .
Not really, we have all kinds of restrictions, especially in CA and NY.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:40:17pm |
re: #222 gmsc
Unreal... New 8th Grade English Textbooks Now Contain 15 Page Section on Obama!
These people live in a different dimension.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:40:38pm |
re: #228 Scion9
Everything works on paper. That's why engineers make mockups and prototypes. :)
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:40:48pm |
My God, what is Ohio's problem?
Optical scanning ballots are the solution. FILL IN THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] OVALS, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
/any child who's taken the Iowa standardized tests over the last half century already knows that
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:03pm |
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel
To paraphrase Abe Lincoln, the combined armies and police forces of Eurabia could not fight their way from Galveston to Crawford in 100 years even if civilians were the only opposition.
Great paraphrased quote!
But what was the original quote you were paraphrasing?
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:09pm |
re: #230 zombie
Un-freakin-credible.
Every single day, I encounter at least three election-related news stories that absolutely blow my mind. This is one of them. The Left has become a Juggernaut of Horror.
Got to put a steel rod in the spokes.
I am out of school, thank G-d. I was in college in the northeast during the 2004 election and that was irritating enough, being packed in with scores of self-righteous Masshole Dems who were so SURE they were RIGHT about, like... Everything. Ugh. I can't imagine what it's like now, in college, or ANY kind of educational institution, for that matter.
If I never hear the word "Obama" ever again, it'll be too soon.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:16pm |
re: #220 zombie
My feelings exactly which is what motivated me to say that. Hitchens has proven that he is at the very least a feeble alley of even the least of conservative values. I suppose sometimes that the 911 Conservatives can only go thus far and Hitchens has proven that considering his pandering endorsement of Barack Obama on the questionable site, Slate. Over time I suspect that anyone can be corrupted and Hitchens has proven that he is corruptible.
Of all people I would expect to see Hitchens see the parallels between the Labour Party of the UK and Barack Obama. In the end he reverts to an analysis based on American popular culture and a blindness towards that which he pretends to espouse.
His book “God is Not Great” is simply boring. I believe that Hitchens only writes for himself and that mostly he just likes to hear himself speak. A charlatan indeed.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:22pm |
re: #232 rawmuse
Still think you guys have less restrictions then we do.
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fishbob Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:35pm |
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel
:).......for some reason or another that is not a hard picture to imagine. And yes, the Starbucks is a must !
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Price_of_Peace Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:39pm |
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Cognito Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:43:46pm |
re: #235 Killian Bundy
My God, what is Ohio's problem?
Optical scanning ballots are the solution. FILL IN THE [EXPLETIVE DELETED] OVALS, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE!
/any child who's taken the Iowa standardized tests over the last half century already knows that
"Well for [expletive deleted]'s sake, sir, why don't you just tell me the name you intended?"
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:44:07pm |
re: #228 Scion9
I had Israel Kirzner as an economic professor back in the day. He started off the course by writing a freedom line on the board. On the very left was communism on the very right capitalism with everything in between. He then superimposed on top of every economic system the level of individual liberty/freedom for each one. Needless to say, communism had total state coercion, even death matched up with it.
OMG, the Marxists in class went crazy. They were literally leaping out of their seats. I was actually scared at the reaction - it was the first time I saw students in class go berzerk.
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rawmuse Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:46:30pm |
re: #239 BlueCanuck
Still think you guys have less restrictions then we do.
You would know. It is all I can do to keep up with the laws in the US. They are ever changing. At least we have a phrase in the Constitution that protects us. But as a civilian, we have lots of restrictions, 15 rounds, no full auto. Then, in CA. we have more, no pistol grip rifles, no bayonet lugs, no 50 cal anything. I may move one day soon.
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Price_of_Peace Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:46:30pm |
re: #233 Archimedes
These people live in a different dimension.
This is the one that should get media attention. It should trouble any American that Messiah "worship" should be in textbooks.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:47:36pm |
Hitchens has disappointed me. I hate it when he goes off the deep end like this, and he's been doing it more and more often. I mean, PDS? This from a guy who defended religious voters after the Red State/Blue State fighting of 2004 ("Give me one of those Methodists any day of the week" was a quote I remember from him)?
Camille Paglia said Palin is great, and that's enough for me.
I think some columnists are looking at the writing on the wall, thinking of their careers, and suddenly converting overnight. "Well McCain sucks, Palin is a chillbilly, and Obama won't be so bad after all! Because he's smart and stuff!" Padding their entry into the party circuit for the next administration, I suppose.
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gmsc Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:48:05pm |
re: #222 gmsc
Unreal... New 8th Grade English Textbooks Now Contain 15 Page Section on Obama!
Related details from the REAL DEBATE WISCONSIN site:
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!
My 8th grade son is in an advanced English class at a public middle school here in Racine, Wisconsin. I just found out that my son's new (copyright 2008) Wisconsin - McDougal Littell Literature book has 15 pages covering Barack Obama.
I was shocked - No John McCain, no Hillary Clinton, no George Bush - Just Barack Obama. I'm wondering how it is that Obama's story gets put into an 8th grade literature book? It would be one thing, if it was just the tidbit about his boyhood days, but 15 pages, and they talk about his "Life of Service". Honestly, what has Obama really done to be included in this book? Not only that, but on page 847 there is a photo of Obama at the 2004 Democratic Convention with at least 8 Obama signs in the background! Front & center is an [Link: www.obama2004.com...] sign.
Now I understand that many teachers are liberals, but does the school have the right to shove Obama down our kid's throats? All the kids grouped together and read the story. After that, they discussed it... I guess it appears that Obama is planning ahead. If he doesn't get his coveted Presidency, Obama is going to make sure, that the younger generations know all about him, and his "life of service".If you would like to see the 15 page story on Obama, it appears that you can order this book online. There is a note in the book that says, For more on Barack Obama, visit the Literature Center at [Link: www.ClassZone.com...] The book is: Wisconsin - 8th grade - McDougal Littell Literature - copyright 2008. The Obama story starts on page 830. I hope you will take the time to look at this book. I'm really angry about this - In fact, I would love to rip the pages right out of this book.
By the way, you might find this interesting: I did a little checking on McDougal Littell, and it appears that MCDOUGAL, ALFRED L CHICAGO , IL 60611 - N/A/RETIRED has been making contributions to Barack Obama's campaign!
I found that information on this website.
[Link: www.newsmeat.com...]
Now I'm not an expert at these things (just a PTA mom), but It looks to me like Alfred McDougal is connected to McDougal Littell the same company that publishes the 8th grade textbook that has 15 pages on Obama. Like I said, I'm not an expert, but I'm sure you have someone who can delve into the dirty little details.I guess my question is: Is it ethical for an Obama supporter to publish an educational book which has a 15 page Barrack Obama story in it? If the tax payers are paying for these books, why is it okay for McDougal Littell to promote Obama? This really bothers me. I would have no problem with it, if Obama had actually done something important. Why is Obama being put up on a pedestal, before he actually wins the pedestal? All I can say, is we can thank the liberal media, and now the liberal book publishers. Thanks to them, I'm sure there are probably thousands of these books all across the United States.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:50:56pm |
re: #248 gmsc
*sigh* The left has been doing this shit for ages. English books, math books, whatever. Everything is looked upon as a means to spread their message. But, I must say that this time they've outdone themselves. (Probably only had 1 page on George Washington.)
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:51:03pm |
re: #230 zombie
Un-freakin-credible.
Every single day, I encounter at least three election-related news stories that absolutely blow my mind. This is one of them. The Left has become a Juggernaut of Horror.
Got to put a steel rod in the spokes.
NEA Teachers Have Become Re-Educators
/frankly, IMO, I believe they're a much greater threat to America, by several orders of magnitude. than the "walking with dinosaurs" cretins
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:51:30pm |
re: #225 Shiplord Kirel
As humourous as your post was, it's still depressing to me to think of another American Civil War.
Just too depressing.
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:51:34pm |
re: #247 Pawn of the Oppressor
Hitchens has disappointed me. I hate it when he goes off the deep end like this, and he's been doing it more and more often. I mean, PDS? This from a guy who defended religious voters after the Red State/Blue State fighting of 2004 ("Give me one of those Methodists any day of the week" was a quote I remember from him)?
Camille Paglia said Palin is great, and that's enough for me.
I think some columnists are looking at the writing on the wall, thinking of their careers, and suddenly converting overnight. "Well McCain sucks, Palin is a chillbilly, and Obama won't be so bad after all! Because he's smart and stuff!" Padding their entry into the party circuit for the next administration, I suppose.
Hitchens strikes me as a free agent, going to the tune of his own drummer. He's out to please no one. He's very wrong on this one, however.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:52:02pm |
re: #245 rawmuse
Here's a short description of unrestricted, restricted, and prohibited firearms in Canada.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:52:09pm |
re: #229 BlueCanuck
Isn't the USA the only country in the world where the civilians are legally allowed to own all manners of firearms? That in itself should give any one pause for thought. . . . .
Not "any manner" but there are more than enough to do the job. It is illegal to own a machine gun, for instance, but this can still be done by paying a $300 fee and registering the weapon.
Lefties are preparing a major push against privately-held firearms, targeting not the guns themselves but their ammunition. They advocate prohibitive taxes, impractical technical requirements, and selective application of consumer safety regulations to shut off the supply of ammo to those wicked gun-clinging right-wingers out here.
Unfortunately for would-be leftist enforcers, there is a great deal they don't understand about this. Suffice to say that most serious gun owners can re-load fired cartridges and many can make their own bullets. A small percentage (but still a very significant number) have the tools and know-how to manufacture ammunition and even guns from scratch in clandestine workshops. Guns and ammunition are not rocket science, it is a venerable technology, and the knowledge of that technology is ubiquitous in this part of the world.
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realwest Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:53:17pm |
Well all y'all it's been interesting again tonight but I gotta get some sleep NOW!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
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Cognito Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:54:38pm |
re: #250 Killian Bundy
NEA Teachers Have Become Re-Educators
/frankly, IMO, I believe they're a much greater threat to America, by several orders of magnitude. than the "walking with dinosaurs" cretins
America is undergoing a major realignment right now, top to bottom. And I think that by the time the thrashing is done, one of the institutions to be jettisoned will be the heavy unions.
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gmsc Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:54:42pm |
re: #255 realwest
Well all y'all it's been interesting again tonight but I gotta get some sleep NOW!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
G'Night realwest!
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:55:16pm |
re: #255 realwest
Well all y'all it's been interesting again tonight but I gotta get some sleep NOW!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
Have a good one!
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:56:30pm |
re: #258 Cognito
America is undergoing a major realignment right now, top to bottom. And I think that by the time the thrashing is done, one of the institutions to be jettisoned will be the heavy unions.
I think you're wildly optimistic, but I hope I'm wrong.
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JacksonTn Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:56:31pm |
re: #219 shug
I think campbell brown has lost her marbles
09-11-01
Silly girl.
Of course she would say that since she was f***king Saudi Flack Adel Al-Jubeir ..... I cannot stand her .....
She and Mika Brzezinski from Morning Joe (I do not watch MSNBC any longer) when her father Zbig came on early in the primary and said he and his son were working for The One's campaign ........ and Mika was saying "No I am not in the tank for Obama" ..... oh, daddy stop saying that ......
I knew then that it was all over and the dems had decided via the media that he was in fact ...... The One ......
I wrote to Joe Scar so many times about her ....... and then I just gave up and have not watched since .......
What's up with these crazy anchorwomen .......
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:56:50pm |
re: #236 zombie
Great paraphrased quote!
But what was the original quote you were paraphrasing?
"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some trans-Atlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us with a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined with a Bonaparte at their head and disposing of all the treasure of the earth, our own excepted, could not by force make a track on the Blue Ridge or take a drink from the Ohio in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up from amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of free men, we must live through all times, or die by suicide."
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Cognito Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:58:19pm |
re: #261 Irene NYC
I think you're wildly optimistic, but I hope I'm wrong.
I know. I'm finding hope where I can.
It may take some time, but the big unions will be tossed aside eventually. You can't organize workers where there is no work.
/hope
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Archimedes Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:58:34pm |
re: #246 Price_of_Peace
This is the one that should get media attention. It should trouble any American that Messiah "worship" should be in textbooks.
I agree. This is where they get them young, and that includes me when I attended public school. I learned nothing about the greatness of America. I learned nothing about the ideas that animated the Founders.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 10:58:45pm |
re: #258 Cognito
America is undergoing a major realignment right now, top to bottom. And I think that by the time the thrashing is done, one of the institutions to be jettisoned will be the heavy unions.
the /first test will be card check, wich Speaker Pelosi just can't wait to ram down our throats
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:00:31pm |
re: #258 Cognito
Cog, Martin Amis once told my husband that the left is always political whereas the right is never political (except when it comes to politics). And he's right. This creeping leftism has made such great inroads that I see no way to stop it in society as it currently is configured.
Earlier this evening you asked for suggestions for fixing Congress. I think one hope is for the US to swing Libertarian bigtime. If for no other reason than to starve Washington of funds.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:01:19pm |
It could be possible that it become a case of professional anti-trust. Since the educational material these educators present are for the benefit of their own gain. It could be argued that since Obama represents a prejudiced partisan inclination towards the said teachers own self interest. Etc.
You can petition for an opposing view which should be the standard. An ethical educator would provide a medium that include opposing views. Of course keep in mind that activist socialism does not by nature allow for the presentation of opposing views.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:02:09pm |
re: #263 Shiplord Kirel
Is it too late to vote for Lincoln for President?
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gmsc Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:02:25pm |
Did anyone see this crap that was just on the Discovery Channel? Fortunately, I only caught the last seconds of it (produced by "Imaginary Forces" - I though that was funny). Check out this listing:
Episode Detail: The Last Lynching - Koppel on Discovery
Racism in U.S. history is discussed with three Democratic delegates who nominated Barack Obama to represent the party in the 2008 presidential election.
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Price_of_Peace Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:02:40pm |
re: #265 Archimedes
I agree. This is where they get them young, and that includes me when I attended public school. I learned nothing about the greatness of America. I learned nothing about the ideas that animated the Founders.
They had just started the indoctrination in our kids school when they attended (1990's) and they reported what was being taught. I had to explain things to them at the level they could understand to keep them balanced. When they got out of school, all three of them started watching for themselves and are now very conservative. As I said on another thread, one is just to the right of Ghengis Khan. Have to bring him back a bit sometimes.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:02:47pm |
re: #269 zombie
Is it too late to vote for Lincoln for President?
Alas, that is the case. Democrat conspirators murdered him.
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:02:53pm |
re: #269 zombie
Is it too late to vote for Lincoln for President?
Sorry, zombie, he's already been elected twice.
;)
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Cognito Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:06:55pm |
re: #267 Irene NYC
Cog, Martin Amis once told my husband that the left is always political whereas the right is never political (except when it comes to politics). And he's right. This creeping leftism has made such great inroads that I see no way to stop it in society as it currently is configured.
Earlier this evening you asked for suggestions for fixing Congress. I think one hope is for the US to swing Libertarian bigtime. If for no other reason than to starve Washington of funds.
You know Martin?
/tangential connection
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Price_of_Peace Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:07:17pm |
OT Has anyone here had a pneumonia shot? Because of my health, I was given both a flu shot and the pneumonia shot today. The arm with the pneumonia shot is very painful and swollen (enough to wake me up.) Some shots, this is normal, but if it's not, I need to call the Dr. in the morning.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:08:32pm |
re: #269 zombie
Hey, you still got that photo of Charles posing with Stanley Clarke?
/for the record, you should probably post it again to remove all doubt from some of the the newer Lizards
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RTLM Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:09:11pm |
Japanese Nikkei index surges +1000 points.
Looks like another good day tomorrow.
[Link: www.marketwatch.com...]
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neocon hippie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:09:42pm |
re: #275 Price_of_Peace
My arm was very painful, could hardly move it, for a day after getting the pneumonia shot.
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Price_of_Peace Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:12:03pm |
re: #279 neocon hippie
My arm was very painful, could hardly move it, for a day after getting the pneumonia shot.
Thanks, I'll watch it for a day.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:13:14pm |
re: #278 RTLM
Japanese Nikkei index surges +1000 points.
Looks like another good day tomorrow.
[Link: www.marketwatch.com...]
/McCain might catch a break yet
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:13:58pm |
re: #277 Killian Bundy
Hey, you still got that photo of Charles posing with Stanley Clarke?
/for the record, you should probably post it again to remove all doubt from some of the the newer Lizards
Let me dig it out.
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Gus 802 Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:14:36pm |
re: #279 neocon hippie
My arm was very painful, could hardly move it, for a day after getting the pneumonia shot.
Could be a muscle contraction? Or a bruised nerve.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:15:25pm |
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Irene NYC Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:16:33pm |
re: #274 Cognito
You know Martin?
/tangential connection
My husband wrote 3 articles on him over 4 or 5 - interviewed him for days in LA and NY. We'd go together and hear him talk. But, my husband knows him. Not me. Very, very nice guy.
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Cognito Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:17:35pm |
re: #285 Irene NYC
Very cool. Can you share where your husband wrote/writes?
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Cognito Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:20:44pm |
Don't fiddle with it -- just zip me a line, if you like.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:26:07pm |
Well, still a half hour to go on the west coast.
/so, Monday's theme song one last time
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:31:10pm |
This is Charles with Stanley Clarke in Tokyo, but it's mostly from the back so you can't really recognize him.
Here's another version of the same photo on the official Stanley Clarke site. On the gallery page, it's called "Stanley and Icarus jammin' Tokyo."
Can't find the one good photo showing Charles and Stanley from the front, however. Drat.
Here is Charles (far left of the photo) in his late-70s band "Pages." Taken from a Pages fan site (it's MySpace page, so don't click unless you can handle their feature-laden site):
Pages, the one of the best AOR group cannot be forgotten among us.
In 1977, Pages released their debut single "I Get It From You" c/w "If I Saw You Again" produced by Bobby Colomby. And their first album "Pages"(Original Vinyl: Epic, USA 35459, Reissued CD: Epic Europe 475861 2 (1994) was followed.
Their highly sophisticated jazz-influenced progressive rock music with Westcoast harmonies was as remarkable as Steely Dan in late 70's.The original members of the group were as below:
Richard Page: Vocals, Guitars, Keyboards
Steve George: Keyboards, Vocals
Peter Leinheiser: Guitars
Jerry Manfredi: Bass
Russ Battelene: Drums
In 1979, Pages released the excellent second album "Future Street" (Original Vinyl: Epic USA 36209, Reissued CD: Epic Sony, Japan ESCA5888 ) including their masterpiece tune "Who's Right, Who's Wrong".
You can find Charles Icarus Johnson as the guitarist of Pages replacing Peter Leinheiser and George Lawrence joined as a new drummer on this album. Although both of Epic albums were really excellent,they were underestimated.
Pages signed with Capitol Records for releasing their third album "Pages"
I can't find the YouTube video with Charles in the white tux, but he's on this track:
L.A. COWBOYS - ENDLESS SUMMER
(Click "more info" for list of band members, including Charles.)
Finally, his wikipedia page mentions his music career:
Charles Johnson was born in New York and raised in Hawaii. He launched his first career (as a jazz guitarist) in the mid-1970s. Extensive recording credits include at least three albums that went gold: Reach For It by George Duke, School Days by Stanley Clarke, and Live in London by Al Jarreau.
There's plenty more, but that should convince any doubters.
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neocon hippie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:35:54pm |
re: #283 Gus 802
Dunno, it was a couple years ago, but it was fine the next day.
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Killian Bundy Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:41:38pm |
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rboa Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:51:04pm |
oh sure... he is pretty good here, but what can he score on guitar hero? lol
He is just amazing!
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welshgirl Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:51:54pm |
[Link: www.ohio.com...]
Check out the voter cheaters at the nursing home.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:51:59pm |
re: #294 Killian Bundy
That'll do it.
/but you also had the classic album liner shot, School Daze?
The Stanley Clarke album Charles plays on is "School Days," but I can only find the front cover, not the back cover or liner notes photos.
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zombie Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:54:52pm |
re: #296 Sharmuta
Thank you! Clever technique for finding it -- you find my original comment about it!
So, for the record:
Charles "Icarus" Johnson and Stanley Clarke at the 1981 (or 1980) Montreux Jazz Festival.
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BlueCanuck Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:57:04pm |
re: #298 welshgirl
Is it just me or are most of the vote frauds ever perpetrated done by the democrats?
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Sharmuta Mon, Oct 13, 2008 11:58:41pm |
re: #300 zombie
I used the user comment search feature for your nic and added "+ Stanley" because I remembered you'd linked a bunch of pics before, and bada-bing.
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neocon hippie Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:02:02am |
re: #298 welshgirl
Physical fight between a 70-something man and woman?
This country is truly going insane.
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:03:05am |
it'd be nice to be able to take a breath......
between my allergies and the sore throat i picked up over the weekend, today sucks.
anyone need a brush fire? we seem to have a surplus of them here..... %-)
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neocon hippie Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:06:31am |
I went for my customary evening visit to the LLL girlfriend (we have separate places a block apart from each other) and she was crowing about Hitchens and how, one by one, "They're dropping away." I explained that I didn't agree on Hitchens about anything, and just because people are on TV or radio doesn't mean they're special. She thought maybe she could help me "see the light." But she apologized for bringing it all up in such brazen a fashion.
Sometimes I really wish I were with someone who was more politically simpatico.
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:12:27am |
re: #305 BlueCanuck
Hey red, how was your weekend otherwise?
fryday day time sucked: fryday evening we had a good time at the Doll Hut, but i had to behave, since i was driving... %-P
caturday i was back up & at the convention. finally got a hold of my old friend and we had a long talk about the issue that required my presence. i now have a course of action to pursue, and am writing a proposal to present later this month up in Frisco. came home, did steaks, baked potatoes and a bottle of the *really* good Zin (Zin Alley '06)
sunday involved chain saws, chippers, grilling more cow and lots of beer, so it was good.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:16:31am |
re: #307 redc1c4
Sounds like a good weekend to me too. Especially the parts of grilling cow.
/can't understand male vegetarians for some reason.
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Mel Lono Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:17:26am |
re: #304 redc1c4
it'd be nice to be able to take a breath......
between my allergies and the sore throat i picked up over the weekend, today sucks.
anyone need a brush fire? we seem to have a surplus of them here..... %-)
Hey red.. my multiple broken nose doesnt like the weather changes either.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:18:38am |
re: #306 neocon hippie
Sometimes I really wish I were with someone who was more politically simpatico.
Ummm.... Convert her or date a republican.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:20:38am |
re: #304 redc1c4
it'd be nice to be able to take a breath......
between my allergies and the sore throat i picked up over the weekend, today sucks.
anyone need a brush fire? we seem to have a surplus of them here..... %-)
Yeah, today was not too fun. It's only gonna get worse. Tomorrow the winds will be whippin' up bigtime.
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neocon hippie Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:21:27am |
re: #310 Sharmuta
There's no way she can be converted. But if McCain wins, her world is going to be rocked big time.
Date a republican? Pretty hard to find around here.
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:21:29am |
more proof that things are different in Canuckistan......
(as if we didn't know. %-)
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Mel Lono Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:22:52am |
re: #311 TheMatrix31
Yeah, today was not too fun. It's only gonna get worse. Tomorrow the winds will be whippin' up bigtime.
Don't think the boys and girls on the line are getting much sleep tonight. Blowing 65 mph in the passes at 10 p.m. tonite.
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:23:35am |
re: #311 TheMatrix31
Yeah, today was not too fun. It's only gonna get worse. Tomorrow the winds will be whippin' up bigtime.
if the one in Chatsworthless gets going, makes it to the 101 and jumps it, the next fire line will be the beach at Malibu. everyone is worried that the winds are going to pick up right about now.... think i'll duck over to the NWS web page for a peak.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:24:12am |
re: #313 redc1c4
Yep, our women up here are tougher. ;)
/now where did I put that print screen button again. . . . .
//Marketing Fail!
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:27:03am |
re: #313 redc1c4
more proof that things are different in Canuckistan......
(as if we didn't know. %-)
ROTFLMFAO!
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:27:32am |
re: #315 redc1c4
if the one in Chatsworthless gets going, makes it to the 101 and jumps it, the next fire line will be the beach at Malibu. everyone is worried that the winds are going to pick up right about now.... think i'll duck over to the NWS web page for a peak.
I have a ton of friends in Porter Ranch, needless to say I'm pretty worried. Where's the one in Chatsworth?
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:31:35am |
re: #318 TheMatrix31
I have a ton of friends in Porter Ranch, needless to say I'm pretty worried. Where's the one in Chatsworth?
hard to tell from the TVidiots reports, but i believe they are one and the same..... it's strung out all along the ridge there north of the 118, and has jumped across here and there earlier.
sigalert.com was interesting: LA Fire called for the 118 to be shut, and the Chippie called back and asked "why? you can still see to drive..."
i *really* despise the CHP.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:33:29am |
re: #313 redc1c4
more proof that things are different in Canuckistan......
(as if we didn't know. %-)
Out of curiosity, red.... Uh.... why are you shopping for douches in Canada?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:34:13am |
re: #319 redc1c4
hard to tell from the TVidiots reports, but i believe they are one and the same..... it's strung out all along the ridge there north of the 118, and has jumped across here and there earlier.
sigalert.com was interesting: LA Fire called for the 118 to be shut, and the Chippie called back and asked "why? you can still see to drive..."
i *really* despise the CHP.
That's absurd. Wasn't there a fatal accident on the 118 today due to the fire?
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:35:27am |
re: #313 redc1c4
more proof that things are different in Canuckistan......
(as if we didn't know. %-)
ROTFLMAO! ! !
From your link: "ENLARGE"
Maybe that's their problem...?
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harry catbox Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:35:47am |
Signs and commercials everywhere.
Obama is like Gregg Stillson in THE DEAD ZONE.
Happy Halloween.
[Link: www.imdb.com...]
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:36:35am |
re: #320 Sharmuta
Out of curiosity, red.... Uh.... why are you shopping for douches in Canada?
ROTFLMAO2
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:38:44am |
re: #320 Sharmuta
Out of curiosity, red.... Uh.... why are you shopping for douches in Canada?
because they have so many of them?
/white smoke
(actually, it's a link on the left sidebar at ace of spades...... %-)
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:46:42am |
re: #323 harry catbox
Signs and commercials everywhere.
Obama is like Gregg Stillson in THE DEAD ZONE.
Happy Halloween.
what's interesting is the number of Obanal ads we're getting here in Lost Angels...... that would seem to be carrying coals to newcastle, except for an interesting experiment i conducted fryday evening.
HRH and i stopped at McCormick & Schmits at a mall near Dingyland after we left the convention. while we were inside snacking and slaking our thirst, someone walked a big dog down the sidewalk, with the predictable side effect.
we were headed to the car ande noticed the gift, as we passed, i told the oncoming party "watch out for the Obama." they laughed.
we then realized that we hadn't gotten our parking validated, so we turned back, and met another party coming towards us, so i repeated my warning. more laughter.
after getting our stamps, we headed back, and the scene repeated itself.
now, if the zero is *that* popular, you'd think at least one person out of all those spoken too would have taken offense or at least said something......
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:47:00am |
Heh heh heh. Done and done.
/hat tip redc1c4. :)
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gmsc Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:47:23am |
And now, a little non-political story that may just put a smile on your face:
Housekeepers at Beckham mansion arrested for 'stealing items and then selling them on eBay'
A couple who worked as housekeepers at David and Victoria Beckham's mansion have been arrested on suspicion of stealing personal items from them for sale on eBay.
Victoria's parents Tony and Jackie Adams raised the alarm after they spotted trinkets and items of clothing for sale on the internet auction site which they recognised.
When Mr and Mrs Adams travelled to the Beckhams' seven-bedroom home they discovered the items were missing and alerted police last Friday.
So, sports star David Beckham had personal property stolen from him, and the thieves' intention was to sell it as sports memorabilia. Yet, somehow, David Beckham will be getting his property back while not risking a single day of jail and/or prison time.
O.J. Simpson, you may want to study this story carefully!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:48:31am |
re: #325 redc1c4
because they have so many of them?
/white smoke
(actually, it's a link on the left sidebar at ace of spades...... %-)
Well we will find out tonight about 2000 hours how many we actually have. Reminds me I have to go and vote after work. :p
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:51:00am |
OT to Charles:
Really like the design changes in the comments... rounded corners, slight shadow right/bottom, smaller/grey numbers, smaller nic/overall font. Very classy (from a retired graphic design monger).
Also, when you click to isolate a referred-to comment in a new tab, it now shows our avatars.
Not good: The huge not so classy formatting buttons on the comments-entry box. What you had before was prettier, less clumsy-looking.
I'm sure there's more I just haven't noticed, and I know there's more under the hood ('cuz you said so!). Just had to say another HUGE THANKS to you for all the goodies you give us!
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:55:27am |
Interesting- even the 0bama people think the polls are whacked:
Buoyed by encouraging poll numbers -- today's ABC News/Washington Post poll has Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., beating Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz, 53% to 43% -- lots of Obama backers out there seem to think this thing is over.
Sen. Hillary Clinton's senior adviser Howard Wolfson today writes "A PreMortem for The McCain Campaign," stating, "The economic crisis dealt the McCain campaign a fatal body blow." He goes on to explore what McCain should have done differently.
That's not what lots of smart folks in the Obama campaign think. They believe Obama's poll numbers are artificially high, McCain's are artificially low, this race will come down to two or three points, and anything could happen.
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harry catbox Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:57:45am |
re: #326 redc1c4
Some folks need the authority and assurance of the MIGHTY OBAMATRON.
Freemen rebel from a voice so loud.
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:59:45am |
re: #307 redc1c4
Sounds like a terrific weekend to me. I've been assured by tooth doc that I may be eating cow again . . . next week?
Sorry to here about you ailments (re: #304). Hope you feel better soon!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:01:00am |
Hmmm, don't know about you but I think it's a little early for this even in Canada. Residents of southeastern Saskatchewan dig out from heavy snowstorm.
/Climate change alright
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:01:27am |
Hey you, infidel! Get the fook out! Iran Urges Outsiders to Leave Region
Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki has urged outsiders to leave the Middle East, saying it would be the best choice before them.
"Those who have come to the region from tens of thousands of kilometers away are after their illegal and illegitimate interests by imposing their will on regional nations and countries," Mottaki said in a joint press conference with the Leader of Lebanon's Free Patriotic Movement Michel Aoun in Tehran on Monday.
Mornin folks.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:01:31am |
My friend just used that against me.
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Ledger1 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:02:29am |
re: #331 Sharmuta
Polls all ACORN'd up?
Bookie makes a very interesting point about a possible "Dewey Beats Truman" thingy going on.
Incidentally, everyone talks about ACORN creating fraudulent registrations, but no one talks about the fact that they are all Democratic registrations. As someone said in a comment, that’s got to affect all the polling, because the polls are weighted in favor of Democrats now to reflect all these so-called registered Democrats. If these people don’t show up on election day (since even the most fervent fraudsters will have a hard time showing up in 72 places on one day), well, it may be a reprise of “Dewey beats Truman.”
My instincts tell me at the most we are only talking a percent or two in the polls in just a few states max - but we are in many ways in terra incognita here WRT Chicago politics on a national scale.
Makes you go hmmmmmmmmm....
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gmsc Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:03:05am |
re: #313 redc1c4
more proof that things are different in Canuckistan......
(as if we didn't know. %-)
Summer's Eve has to do with PSI? I knew a lot of words were spelled differently in Canada . . .
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:04:57am |
re: #336 TheMatrix31
My friend just used that against me.
Did your friend not see this?
But so far as is known, their relationship was never very close.
They worked closely together for years. Search LGF and hit him with some facts.
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Scion9 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:06:48am |
re: #337 Ledger1
Yeah, the pollster oversampling of Democrats is scientific. It is just a matter at this point of how many of those registered Democrats exist in physical reality and not just on paper.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:07:40am |
I told him, Sharm.
This is what I posted, actually...
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Fact Check is operated by the Annenberg Foundation, which is the group that oversaw the funding and operation of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which I told you about. In case you don't remember, that's one of the groups that William Ayers and Barack Obama served together on.
Needless to say, I've given you bits of proof after proof of their connection, so I don't see your beliefs about anything changing now.
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:10:05am |
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gmsc Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:10:31am |
re: #337 Ledger1
Polls all ACORN'd up?
Bookie makes a very interesting point about a possible "Dewey Beats Truman" thingy going on.
Time to bring back one of my favorite bets. A while back, a buddy of mine mentioned that he saw a picture of Truman holding up a newspaper with the headline, "Dewey Beats Truman". I bet him he couldn't show me such a picture in one week that hadn't been photoshopped. He bet me $10 that it was a real picture.
He came back the following week, handed me $10 and told me to shut up about it.
(The headline actually reads "Dewey Defeats Truman", not "Beats".)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:12:04am |
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:13:37am |
fact checking factcheck.org here
they're in the tank with the rest of them..... it's almost as crowded as under the bus. %-)
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gmsc Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:14:26am |
re: #345 BlueCanuck
Keep that up and you're going to explode. :)
That was my fault. Would I have to clean up the mess?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:15:25am |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:16:33am |
re: #343 redc1c4
factcheck has been found to be biased previously
try: http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/ 275476.php
http://www.patterico.com/2008/10/10/la-t imes-leaves-out-a-few-facts-on-ayers/
as well as multiple links heresome friend..... %-)
It's not even worth it. The guy is so far off the deep end, there really is no saving him. His dad owns a very successful private business. Not surprisingly, the Dad is voting for McCain and said that there is no way in hell he's voting for Obama. I should ask him to ask his Dad WHY he's voting for McCain while the other three members of his family are voting for Obama. Mind you, this guy's in a very well-off family. What does he think will happen under Obamanomics?
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:17:25am |
uh-oh
Bad linky alert! ! !
The individual comment # linkies (in comment headers) no longer take you to new tab for that comment... takes you instead to new tab of same page (top). The ones inserted in replies do still work, but the "Close this window" link at that new tab doesn't work if you got there by clicking the scroll wheel (which is an alternate way to make a link open a new tab in FireFox).
/self-reported.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:20:55am |
LOL, and it just keeps getting more hilarious. He just posted a ton of links.
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Palin attended 5 colleges: Fact: [Link: abcnews.go.com...]
Obama as community organizer: Fact: [Link: www.thenation.com...]
Obama... Read More’s education: Fact: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Obama in state senate and as constituotional professor: Fact: [Link: bioguide.congress.gov...]
Obama committees: Fact: [Link: obama.senate.gov...]
Palin mayor: [Link: www.factcheck.org...]
McCain wife: [Link: www.factcheck.org...]
Palin: abstinence: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Todd Palin: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] (sources citing wiki article are credible).
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I responded with;
I don't see what any of that proves. After all the links I've shown you that you've obviously discounted, what makes you think that those links are relevant? Other than posting those links for me, you're pretty much preaching to your own choir, my man.
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:24:38am |
re: #345 BlueCanuck
Keep that up and you're going to explode. :)
STOP!
re: #347 gmsc
That was my fault. Would I have to clean up the mess?
STOP!
re: #348 BlueCanuck
Nope, only the lizard that would finally put her over the edge.
/so far you're safe.
STO-H-H-H-H-H-H-P! ! ! wtf — If you use all O's, it comes out "stoop!"
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:25:30am |
re: #351 TheMatrix31
Just ask him to link you to one, just one, substantial legislative achievement by0bama. And I mean substantial.
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LeePro Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:28:10am |
Bed time!
G'nite, {good Lizards} ...and bad ones
¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:28:18am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:28:46am |
re: #354 LeePro
Night {LeePro}, have a good sleep.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:33:20am |
Nuts, I killed the dead thread again.
/hides stake, garlic, hammer.
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Ledger1 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:34:01am |
re: #344 gmsc
I think the MSM is bed with the dems and the polls they trumpet are biased against McCain.
When the polls are scrutinized they tend to even-up close to the infamous "margin of error."
The poles are biased.
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Moe Katz Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:34:45am |
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:34:50am |
re: #357 BlueCanuck
I'm waiting to see what Matrix's friend comes up with for a substantial 0bama legislative achievement.
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Ledger1 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:35:50am |
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Moe Katz Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:36:30am |
It's all a crapshoot anyway with the Bradley effect.
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:36:41am |
i've given up trying to get my nose to clear.....
it's time to just take enough meds that i'll fall asleep, congestion or no. %-)
(i'll put the leftovers in the fruitcup. %-)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:36:54am |
re: #360 Sharmuta
The poor soul is going to be searching for the next 2 years for that..
/hey that might not be a bad thing after all. Keeps him busy and out of the election booth.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:37:04am |
He posted this after my comment that ended with "My man."
"you implied that this video was inaccurate, and im merely pointing out that its not."
I then responded with;
"And I'm saying that after all the stuff I've told you discounting all of this type of mumbo-jumbo and you discounting those morsels of information, I can just as easily discount these too.
It's cool dude, whatever. You can believe what you want to believe. After all, who am I to say anything? You can go ahead supporting a guy who is most obviously a socialist, who's been around radicals, and racists his whole life, who's been collaborative with people who have DIRECTLY CAUSED OUR FINANCIAL CRISIS, who's been around mobsters, and who has been more than "sort of connected" to a group with a LONG HISTORY of voter fraud, intimidation, and corruption.
You want me to prove them? I already have. It's up to you to listen."
----
Then I added with your suggestion;
"BTW, since you're so hell bent on proving his experience, link me to one substantial, and I really mean substantial piece of legislative that came STRAIGHT from Barack Obama's pen. That's all I want.
You can sit on committees all you want, but when you vote present most of the time, and declare your candidacy for President halfway through your ... FIRST term of being in the Senate, those don't mean a damn thing."
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:39:03am |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:40:04am |
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:41:37am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:42:25am |
re: #367 littleoldlady
He sponsored it, does that mean the same thing as writing it?
/ignorant on how things like that work south of the border.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:43:14am |
re: #370 BlueCanuck
He sponsored it, does that mean the same thing as writing it?
/ignorant on how things like that work south of the border.
Even if he wrote- it hasn't passed!
What has the man done that makes him qualified?!?!
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:44:28am |
re: #369 littleoldlady
The FUN part is what it will cost us.
/I think the estimate was 850 billion...
Oh, and did I mention that it was tied into the U.N. Millennium Project?
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:46:02am |
re: #371 Sharmuta
Sharmuta! :-)
It made it through the House, I believe...
/...mostly because nobody read it!
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:46:41am |
re: #372 redc1c4
Sorry, I don't catch the signifigance of the date.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:47:19am |
re: #374 littleoldlady
They probably piggy backed it.
Still- that is the question: What has he done to make him qualified to be President?
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:48:23am |
re: #375 BlueCanuck
Sorry, I don't catch the signifigance of the date.
12/7- that's the day the Germans dropped their bomb on Pearl Harbor.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:49:20am |
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Scion9 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:52:15am |
re: #375 BlueCanuck
It's a day that will live in infamy...
And a bill that is listed as being sponsored by Obama means he didn't author it.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:52:36am |
re: #377 Sharmuta
12/7- that's the day the Germans dropped their bomb on Pearl Harbor.
*snicker* Thanks, need more coffee I think. At least I only have 3 hours to go.
/and two days and counting.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:52:43am |
And speaking of waiting for a response...
I linked that excellent Wall Street Journal article from yesterday - the one that explained Obama's "95% will get tax cut" chazzeri - and sent it off to a few people in email with the subject: Thank you in advance for supporting me for the next few years.
Haven't heard back from anyone!
/sheesh! ;-)
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:52:49am |
Didn't Obama have trouble in Harvard Law anyway? I thought his papers were barely legible, etc.
Plus, he might point to Palin's abortion stance even if the daughter gets raped, but doesn't that point to her convictions? Not to mention Obama's documented record on BAIPA?
And didn't Obama claim Ayers as a major source of experience when he ran for the US Senate?
I mean, the stuff in those links he sent me is so easily refutable that it's overwhelming.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:54:12am |
re: #385 TheMatrix31
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing! ;-)
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:54:41am |
re: #384 littleoldlady
Oh- I'm emailing my Aunties the lovely t-shirt story. That will go over sooo swimmingly. Even the one in the tank for 0bama will think twice after that.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:55:06am |
re: #384 littleoldlady
And speaking of waiting for a response...
I linked that excellent Wall Street Journal article from yesterday - the one that explained Obama's "95% will get tax cut" chazzeri - and sent it off to a few people in email with the subject: Thank you in advance for supporting me for the next few years.
Haven't heard back from anyone!
/sheesh! ;-)
I posted that link on my Facebook as well. My brother, an Obama supporter, linked it to someone else saying "Thought you might enjoy this article", who's seemingly a staunch McCain/Palin supporter. I don't know that guy personally, but I saw that he thanked my brother and said "Great article! It shows how deceptive Obama really is. Can't believe some people can't see through his BS."
Does that mean that my bro has slipped back into the sane side?
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:55:24am |
re: #374 littleoldlady
Sharmuta! :-)
It made it through the House, I believe...
/...mostly because nobody read it!
if it did, it was in another bill....... this one has gone nowhere.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:57:15am |
re: #388 TheMatrix31
Perhaps your brother is looking forward to being "kept" as well. ;-)
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:58:42am |
re: #385 TheMatrix31
Didn't Obama have trouble in Harvard Law anyway? I thought his papers were barely legible, etc.
Plus, he might point to Palin's abortion stance even if the daughter gets raped, but doesn't that point to her convictions? Not to mention Obama's documented record on BAIPA?
And didn't Obama claim Ayers as a major source of experience when he ran for the US Senate?
I mean, the stuff in those links he sent me is so easily refutable that it's overwhelming.
"It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 1:59:29am |
re: #390 littleoldlady
Perhaps your brother is looking forward to being "kept" as well. ;-)
come to think of it, where's *my* bail out?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:00:00am |
re: #388 TheMatrix31
Nope, not exactly. But you might want to check up on him to see if his heads still intact.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:00:02am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
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Scion9 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:00:24am |
To his credit, I do actually agree with some of the legislation introduced by Obama. However it seems to me that most of it, while altruistic on the surface is par for the course in being partisan, pandering, political maneuvering. He is quite vociferous in trumpeting some specific causes that are certainly noble, which only makes his silence on other extremely notable, and as hypocritical as most Democrats (and most politicians for that matter). Nothing exemplary from the Jr. Senator though, and quite a bit that is 'business as usual'.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:01:01am |
re: #392 redc1c4
come to think of it, where's *my* bail out?
Patience!
/you had a premature fruitilation, too!
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FamHistoryGuy Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:01:25am |
re: #395 littleoldlady
Good morning LOL. Most excellent fruitcup.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:01:35am |
I don't like talking politics with my bro, though. I can deal with politics ruining friendships if thats what it comes down to, but never with family.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:01:45am |
re: #396 Scion9
Is there a list of the legislation that Obama introduced?
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redc1c4 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:01:57am |
re: #396 Scion9
To his credit, I do actually agree with some of the legislation introduced by Obama. However it seems to me that most of it, while altruistic on the surface is par for the course in being partisan, pandering, political maneuvering. He is quite vociferous in trumpeting some specific causes that are certainly noble, which only makes his silence on other extremely notable, and as hypocritical as most Democrats (and most politicians for that matter). Nothing exemplary from the Jr. Senator though, and quite a bit that is 'business as usual'.
what do you agree with? from all i've read Obanal has been a cipher in the Senate, which is appropriate, no?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:02:07am |
re: #400 littleoldlady
I think you already linked it.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:02:41am |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:03:22am |
re: #395 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!
Ding!
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Ledger1 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:04:33am |
Here is a little humor:
[Video by TNOYF]
‘Cuckoo’s Nest II: The Housing Crisis Denial Sessions’
Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and Franklin Raines star.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:08:20am |
re: #396 Scion9
To his credit, I do actually agree with some of the legislation introduced by Obama. However it seems to me that most of it, while altruistic on the surface is par for the course in being partisan, pandering, political maneuvering. He is quite vociferous in trumpeting some specific causes that are certainly noble, which only makes his silence on other extremely notable, and as hypocritical as most Democrats (and most politicians for that matter). Nothing exemplary from the Jr. Senator though, and quite a bit that is 'business as usual'.
What has he passed? What notable bill has he spearheaded and gotten signed into law? What are his accomplishments in Washington?
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Scion9 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:09:04am |
re: #400 littleoldlady
Is there a list of the legislation that Obama introduced?
I don't have a link on hand, but I've read up on him. He introduced legislation that made videotaping interrogations and confessions mandatory in capital crime cases, which I agree with (although I'd add the provision that the video be available only to the defense and prosecution and not the jury). That was as a State Senator.
He also introduced legislation for greater transparency of government spending, ironically along with John McCain and Tom Coburn, as a US Senator, which I also agree with. I don't remember the name of the bill, but it mandates disclosure of all federal spending and also searchable on the internet.
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littleoldlady Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:11:46am |
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:15:29am |
re: #409 littleoldlady
*POP* damn time to go to the shop for another one.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:16:14am |
re: #409 littleoldlady
Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006- In addition to Coburn, Obama, and McCain, there were 43 other Senators who co-sponsored this bill.
Yeah. I'm going to call this not an accomplishment if it had that much overwhelming support. It passed unanimously. So he put his name on a no-brainer. Good for him.
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Scion9 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:17:07am |
re: #409 littleoldlady
I hope your irony meter is turned on.
He also has a bill in committee right now that deals with illegalizing the kind of voter fraud ACORN engages in, which is a big lulz. Kind of funny that the reason we probably know how much public money is going to ACORN is in part thanks to Barack Obama. Bet he is kicking himself now.
Like I said, most of his bills are typical Democrat stuff. Green legislation designed to funnel public money to partisan organizations, etc.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:17:36am |
Jayzuz...from our pals al-Guardian: McCain was not tortured, PoW guard claims
The Republican US presidential candidate John McCain was not tortured during his captivity in North Vietnam, the chief prison guard of the jail in which he was held has claimed.In an interview with the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Nguyen Tien Tran acknowledged that conditions in the prison were "tough, though not inhuman". But, he added: "We never tortured McCain. On the contrary, we saved his life, curing him with extremely valuable medicines that at times were not available to our own wounded."
No comment.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:19:43am |
re: #414 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Now why should we believe them.
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Scion9 Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:22:00am |
re: #414 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
They had this story on MSNBC I think it was. They actually interviewed his the NVA Hanoi-Hilton guards on televion, that of course engaged in the kind of truthfulness and honesty that we can all trust, as has historically been the case with all information that comes out of Communist nations by way of officers of their governments.
Really sick stuff. Then again, these are the same 'journalists' that are 'embedded' with terrorists and videotape them in the process of committing terrorist attacks.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:30:25am |
re: #418 Sharmuta
Thanks littleoldlady & red for the fruitcups.
*hic*
*sigh* And people used to be fearful of reds doctorings.
