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WaPo Columnist: John McCain, Far Right Extremist

Politics | Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:29:18 am PDT

This is where the mainstream media has been headed ever since the nomination of Barack Obama as the Democratic candidate; E. J. Dionne is the latest journalist to claim that any and all criticism of Obama is by definition racist. But he takes it an extra step, saying that John McCain represents the reemergence of the far right.

Yes, really. John McCain, far right extremist. Wow. Meanwhile, Barack Obama associates with people who scream “God damn America,” and with people who are guilty of bombing the US Capitol, and gets a complete pass.

Are we witnessing the reemergence of the far right as a power in American politics? Has John McCain, inadvertently perhaps, become the midwife of a new movement built around fear, xenophobia, racism and anger?

McCain has clearly become uneasy with some of the forces that have gathered around him. He has begun to insist, against the sometimes loud protests from his crowds, that Barack Obama is, among things, a “decent person.”

Yet McCain’s own campaign is playing with powerful extremist themes to denigrate Obama. When his running mate, Sarah Palin, first brought up Obama’s association with 1960s radical Bill Ayers, who has become a centerpiece of McCain’s attacks, she accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Since Obama was a child when Ayers was part of the Weather Underground, and since even Republicans have served on boards with Ayers, this is classic guilt by association.

Notice how many mainstream journalists shamelessly parrot Obama’s talking points about William Ayers, word for word.

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1 Spellcheck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:31:27am

God bless America!

2 RaiderDan  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:31:36am

Meanwhile, Obama supporters parade around in "Sarah Palin is a C***" t-shirts and all we hear about is how McCain-Palin is the second-coming of George Wallace.

Liberal Media = Double Standards

3 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:32:29am

It is to laugh.

4 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:32:42am

re: #2 RaiderDan

Whotf is George Wallace?

/born in '87, yeah, I've got a lot to learn... ):

5 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:32:48am

Our media at work, ignore Obama close associations with criminals and concentrate on any minor gaff by McCain, Palin or her kids. Death to the tyrants mates!

6 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:33:07am

Cognitive dissonance for Dummies exemple #200,000,000.

7 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:33:11am

John McCain- Far Right? We only wish?

8 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:33:33am

re: #1 Spellcheck

God bless America!

Thanx! Great post mate, short and sweet!

9 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:33:45am

This is the best article yet. Keep writing.

10 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:09am

Wha? E. J. Dionne thinks McCain is a far right extremist?
Just another reason why we shoulda nominated someone on the far right - give the voters a clear choice.
Commies vs. Nazi's!
// heavy//

11 onslow  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:30am

If Obama wins and governs as effectively as, say, Jimmy Carter, many questions will be asked of the media.

12 freedombilly  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:31am

If calling William Ayers a terrorist is racist, I am a racist.

13 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:32am

re: #8 LoFlyer

I sent you an email a few minutes ago. I would forget to do it later. STML.

14 gonecamping  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:36am

Funny how the MSM use to love McCain and talk about him bucking the far right....now he is one. Definately saw this coming. ANY conservative candidate is by the MSM standard, FAR RIGHT.

15 krycek  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:39am

When will the public get tired of the race card being played? It has no meaning anymore.

16 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:34:58am

re: #4 laZardo

Whotf is George Wallace?

/born in '87, yeah, I've got a lot to learn... ):

He was segregationist, southern Governor (Mississippi?). An 'Old Right' paleo-populist, isolationist like Pat Buchanan. He ran for POTUS, with Curtis LeMay as his running mate. He, like most openly racist pols, recanted later in life after the success of the Civil Rights movement.

17 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:35:15am

What would they have said about my primary choice, Fred Thompson?

18 seekeroftruth  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:35:41am

The more they throw around the race card, the more people are rejecting the label, and the less effective the race card is becoming. This may be the silver lining and the unintended consequences in this campaign.

19 Adrenalyn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:35:44am

and yet many posters here think McCain should not go negative when all evidence shows that it works

again, at the risk of repeating and repeating myself
constant negativitity by the MSM/democrat Alliance has produced
a President with no real power, no base of support and widespread scorn

and along comes about the most despicable candidate ever
and some don't want McCain to call out his negatives

they want to play nice

where do nice guys finish ?

20 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:35:56am

Haar, mates made a change to 'me profile in an attempt to make my email available when my nic is blue. Now my nic is black, can anyone tell me how to beat it to blue?

21 Pyrocles  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:36:23am

LOL, what a dumbass this E. J. Dionne guy is. A dumbass with an agenda.

22 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:36:25am

re: #13 bellamags

I sent you an email a few minutes ago. I would forget to do it later. STML.

Thanx, mate! I will reply tomorrow!

23 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:36:29am
When his running mate, Sarah Palin, first brought up Obama’s association with 1960s radical Bill Ayers, who has become a centerpiece of McCain’s attacks, she accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, comes to my mind. Maybe Gov. Palin was thinking about her too.

24 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:36:37am

re: #11 onslow Actually NO. No questions will be asked of the media, cause the media won't print or acknowledge those questions!

25 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:36:50am

re: #10 realwest

Speaking of which, I got a money quote from a political thread started by someone who wonders if what Ayers did was as or worse than the actions in Vietnam by government he was fighting against:

"...[Ayers] wants a socialist country. I don't see anything wrong with that...he's become a democrat."

/excuse me while I sit here stunned...

26 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:37:09am

I posted this in previous thread .... but please send to all your Jewish family and friends .....

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

He promised "fundamental changes" in US foreign policy - saying America must "heal wounds" it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the "arrogance of the Bush administration."

The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end.

Jackson believes that, although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

"Obama is about change," Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. "And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it."

Jackson warns that he isn't an Obama confidant or adviser, "just a supporter." But he adds that Obama has been "a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family." Jackson's son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson's daughter went to school with Obama's wife Michelle.

"We helped him start his career," says Jackson. "And then we were always there to help him move ahead. He is the continuation of our struggle for justice not only for the black people but also for all those who have been wronged."

Will Obama's election close the chapter of black grievances linked to memories of slavery? The reverend takes a deep breath and waits a long time before responding.

"No, that chapter won't be closed," he says. "However, Obama's victory will be a huge step in the direction we have wanted America to take for decades."

Jackson rejects any suggestion that Obama was influenced by Marxist ideas in his youth. "I see no evidence of that," he says. "Obama's thirst for justice and equality is rooted in his black culture."

27 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:37:24am

LOL. Somebody should notify Michelle Malkin.

28 Adrenalyn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:37:35am

re: #23 LittleGreenFavre

Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, comes to my mind. Maybe Gov. Palin was thinking about her too.

maybe the PLO
didn't Obama go to the West Bank in 2006 and wish Abbas well in the elections against Hamass

the election which Obama now says was a bad idea

29 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:08am

re: #16 Scion9

He was segregationist, southern Governor (Mississippi?). An 'Old Right' paleo-populist, isolationist like Pat Buchanan. He ran for POTUS, with Curtis LeMay as his running mate. He, like most openly racist pols, recanted later in life after the success of the Civil Rights movement.

Alabama, actually.

30 gonecamping  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:12am

re: #18 seekeroftruth

Speaking of silver lining, Obama's hair is getting a bit more silvery every day. Perhaps Charles can post some pics after the debate this week showing the transition of Obama's hair color to attempt the sage look versus the 'man-child' label pasted upon him by Rush.

31 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:15am

re: #4 laZardo

Whotf is George Wallace?

/born in '87, yeah, I've got a lot to learn... ):



George Wallace

32 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:16am

re: #20 LoFlyer
OY matey - just above the box where you type in comments there's a box to check that says "Show e-mail" check it and voila - your nic will be in blue!

33 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:18am

McCain is far right?
What a crock.

Obama is a far far far left-wing fascist -- Promising government control over our lives. Just becasue Obama pretends to suddenly be "moderate" doesn't make it so.

34 tunnelrat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:28am

E.J. Dionne is a mindless shill for the democratic party. His columns are no different than an average press release from the DNC.

35 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:38:52am

re: #23 LittleGreenFavre

Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, comes to my mind. Maybe Gov. Palin was thinking about her too.

George Soros, economic terrorist

36 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:39:04am

What exactly makes McCain a far right extremist? That he's even to the mildest hint of right of center? Given that Obama has skewed things so far to the left that he's around the bend and the media has covered for this time and time again, McCain appears far right. It's only because the media doesn't want people to see the extent of Obama's far left agenda that anything McCain says or does is wrapped up nicely in the bow of far right.

It's about perspective, and the media has lost all sense of theirs. Obama's people threaten journalists, engage in smear campaigns, and are working in cahoots with fraudulent voter registration entities like ACORN to spread the leftist agenda.

Obama would like to turn the Constitution on its ear with calls for foreclosure moratoriums (which exceeds any power granted the government in the US Constitution), redistribution of wealth by calling refundable tax credits tax cuts, and lying about what he intends to do with the economy.

The problem for McCain is that he's also seen the Constitution and laughed at its protections in the name of campaign finance reform. Still, he is the lesser of evils. Obama pays ACORN for their services, including get out the vote drives, which should be investigated thoroughly (but wont).

37 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:39:14am

Emailed the Washington Post...

Here is what I sent...

E.J. Dionne is completely off base here. John McCain is far from the candidate that the 'extreme right wing' supports. John McCain, through his policies of supporting amnesty, McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy, have clearly set him apart from the Conservative movement.

Is there anger at his rallies? Yes. Why? Because Conservatives are angry that Americans seems ready to hand the White House over to a risky candidate, who espouses economic policies rooted in socialism, has associated and worked with unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, sat for 20 years in a church that espoused some of the most vile racist hatred toward white people, and has accepted and supported a radical group presently under investigation for voter fraud in, ironically, ALL of the swing states in this election, ACORN.

Conservatives are angry that Americans do not see this as a real problem. Considering this important moment in time for our nation, Senator Obama is a huge risk to occupy the White House, and, along with Reid and Pelosi running Congress, should frighten any clear thinking American.

38 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:39:31am

re: #14 gonecamping

Funny how the MSM use to love McCain and talk about him bucking the far right....now he is one. Definately saw this coming. ANY conservative candidate is by the MSM standard, FAR RIGHT.

Especially if he dares to challenge The Anointed One in a presidential election. How he dares?

39 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:39:33am

If McCain is far right, I would hate to see what they would call someone who is right of McCain.

Right is right.

40 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:10am

How disingenuous can you get?

OT-Why did Bush (partly) nationalize the 9 largest banks in the US?

41 yesandno  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:11am

4% of every mortgage goes to community activism and this idiot doesn't give a damn.

Thieves to the left of me, thieves to the right and all this a-hole cares about is extreme speech...or what he calls extreme speech.

Free speech is extreme speech theses days, get over it.

42 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:15am

And EJ would prefer ............Wright? .........

43 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:24am

The real irony of comparing McCain to George Wallace is that the policies of the 'New Left' Democrats from the 60s, of which Obama is the natural offspring, are themselves directly descended from the political platforms of politicians like Wallace.

A belief in cultural distinction being strongly associated with race? Check.
Mostly isolationist, America first attitude? Check.
Strong populist and class warfare rhetoric? Check.
Strong anti-war rhetoric with no actual anti-war policiies? Check.

Of course, Wallace was also a Democrat.

44 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:28am

re: #16 Scion9

He was governor of Alabama.

45 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:46am

The editor at the WaPo must have slipped up. This was the column that was supposed to run after tomorrow night's debate. Now the whole sequence is messed up. Headquarters isn't going to be happy about this.

46 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:40:53am

re: #37 tfc3rid

FABULOUS

47 mama winger  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:05am

Oh pish posh.

If McCain is far right, why did he have so much trouble bringing in his base during the primaries and beyond ?

McCain was the favorite Republican of the Democrat Party, until he got the nomination.

48 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:08am

mccain's on glenn beck right now, btw

49 Middle-Earth  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:09am

My condolence to you all.

And yes I think you lost it.

Very sad :-(

50 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:09am

re: #30 gonecamping

Speaking of silver lining, Obama's hair is getting a bit more silvery every day. Perhaps Charles can post some pics after the debate this week showing the transition of Obama's hair color to attempt the sage look versus the 'man-child' label pasted upon him by Rush.

GC, I will be camping with 'me non-lizard mates this weekend. Sitting around a campfire, drinking beer, and arguing politics. That's the life mates!

51 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:12am
McCain has clearly become uneasy with some of the forces that have gathered around him. He has begun to insist, against the sometimes loud protests from his crowds, that Barack Obama is, among things, a “decent person.”


Damn. Give me a break. It happened once.

52 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:33am

To E.J. Dionne, anyone to the right of Marx is a right-wing extremist.

53 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:44am

Note to Bill Kristol, Kraut, et al ....... after McCains speech on economy package ..... please do not come out slamming him ..... damn I am sick of that crap .....

54 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:41:57am

As an objective observer, it appears to me that any Republican woman who votes for Obama is pretty racy.
And any Republican who does not vote for McCain is beyond the Palin.

55 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:04am

re: #31 reine.de.tout

So...they're acting like the current McP ticket is the second coming of a Democrat.

/wth!?

56 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:12am

Gotcha mate, thanks!

57 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:12am

re: #48 bosforus

mccain's on glenn beck right now, btw

OMG! Thanks for the reminder! *sprinting for radio*

58 Lynn B.  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:15am

Dionne has been out to lunch throughout this whole campaign. The headlines of his pieces alone have been jaw droppers.

59 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:24am

bbl

60 krycek  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:35am

It should be pointed out that George Wallace was never a republican. Although, he ran for president 3 times as an independent. George Wallace was a Democrat his entire career as a 4 term Governor of Alabama.

61 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:46am

re: #49 Middle-Earth

What?

62 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:43:20am

re: #44 Mike in Georgia

He was governor of Alabama.

I like this George Wallace.

63 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:43:47am

re: #50 LoFlyer

Do you ever visit Helen? (GA that is)

64 jaunte  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:43:55am

E. J. Dionne and the candidate he supports should heed his own advice:
"McCain Obama has an obligation, to his own legacy and the country he has served, to separate himself and his campaign from the kooks. Extremism in defense of liberty may be no vice, but extremism in pursuit of the presidency is as dysfunctional as it is degrading."

E. J.: see all past close associations of Obama's for a definition of the term 'ectremism.'

65 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:44:12am

re: #62 Ward Cleaver

He is funny.

66 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:44:13am

re: #20 LoFlyer

Haar, mates made a change to 'me profile in an attempt to make my email available when my nic is blue. Now my nic is black, can anyone tell me how to beat it to blue?

What? You don't like black? Maybe you're a raaacist!

/race card -off

67 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:44:31am

re: #26 JacksonTn
""Obama is about change," Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation."
Uh, yeah he is ok. Like ignoring decades of trying to get campaign finance reform by taking millions of bucks from "Americans" overseas in Iran, Syria, Gaza and Tunisia - they must be Americans cause they checked the box "I am an American Citizen" right?!
Then Obama reneges on his promise to accept Public Financing cause he's hauled in more loot than anyone in recent memory.
Yeah, Obama is about change ok; he just really wants PAYBACK against the White Folks who've kept the Black Man (and Woman, I suppose) DOWN all these years; Civil Rights Acts, affirmative action, hiring quotas and all notwithstanding.
But his main meme of "change" is he wants to redistribute the wealth in this country from those who earn it and provide jobs to others to those who don't earn it - or at least not enough of it.
Change my Ass.

68 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:44:41am

Thanks Real, I just tested it and it seems to work. Thanks, mate!

69 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:44:50am

E.J Dionne is the prototypical Liberal Weenie.
Obama has induldged in a virtual freak show of racist , hateful anti American associations, but forget that. Sarah Palin said terrorists (Plural) ,]
not singular , so see? It is pluraol, Obama has palled around with Palistinian Hamas supporters in his district.

70 brent  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:44:52am

I'd like to see that list of "other terrorists" that this tool is scratching his (?) head over....

Mrs Ayers is an easy one, but the PLO - good one. Castro and Chavez would indeed pal around with Barry, but he's so darn busy being strong and magnificent for us - where was i?

I got lost there for a second, the light bringer has that effect on me...

71 jaunte  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:05am

re: #64 jaunte

Spoils the effect with a typo: extremism

72 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:09am

re: #53 JacksonTn

Note to Bill Kristol, Kraut, et al ....... after McCains speech on economy package ..... please do not come out slamming him ..... damn I am sick of that crap .....

Krauthammer, Brooks, Kristol and a few others would do well to shut the hell up until the battle is won.

73 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:30am

I've sat on this thread for 9 minutes, thinking of E.J. Dionne.
Nothing comes.

/plagiarizing Shakespeare in Love

74 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:36am

re: #55 laZardo

So...they're acting like the current McP ticket is the second coming of a Democrat.

/wth!?

heh-heh.
A racist and a conservative democrat (who later saw the light). In other words, a most unsavory person.

75 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:48am

re: #57 Fat Jolly Penguin

OMG! Thanks for the reminder! *sprinting for radio*

not sure how many commercial breaks he's going to be on through but he was already on for one.

76 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:53am

Well, Ayers is part of the Weather Underground that is above ground now. And Obama will always be a child.

77 onslow  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:45:55am

re: #24 realwest

You may be correct. I would hope that the media's near death experience would foster a sense of sobriety and balance but I'm probably wrong.

78 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:12am

re: #40 twincitiesgirl

How disingenuous can you get?

OT-Why did Bush (partly) nationalize the 9 largest banks in the US?

Because he's a far-right socialist?

I mean - he gotta be righter than McCain, right?
And nationalisation is what socialists do ...

///

79 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:24am

re: #46 bellamags

FABULOUS

Thanks... It's just how I feel...

80 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:26am

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've sat on this thread for 9 minutes, thinking of E.J. Dionne.
Nothing comes.

/plagiarizing Shakespeare in Love

"It's a mystery!"

81 gonecamping  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:31am

re: #50 LoFlyer
Have a cold one for me! I'll be too busy campaigning till after the election, but I'll be ready for a camping getaway then.

82 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:41am

re: #60 krycek

It should be pointed out that George Wallace was never a republican. Although, he ran for president 3 times as an independent. George Wallace was a Democrat his entire career as a 4 term Governor of Alabama.

It should also be pointed out that MLK, on the other hand, was a Republican.

83 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:49am

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've sat on this thread for 9 minutes, thinking of E.J. Dionne.
Nothing comes.

/plagiarizing Shakespeare in Love

I've been trying to think of another way to say he is a prissy little pansy.

84 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:53am

Obama's promises are already slowing down our economy. My business is slowing. Other are too. Economic idiots and cheaters are going to sweep a fraud into the white house.

Obama is going to tax the top 5% and give it to the un-productive. Obama is going to kill the Bush tax cuts so that everyone will get a tax increase. Obama is going to send out welfare checks to try and buy votes in his "tax credit" ponzi scheme. All of this will be the same type of house of cards that helped build and destroy Fannie and Freddie.

Productive working Americans are not going to support Obama's plan. We will opt out and it will kill his economy. Good luck coving for your fascist dictator then, EJ Dionne.

85 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:46:56am

EJ - Junior

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

nice little progressive

86 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:47:31am

This is like the meme in European media about 'far right' Geert Wilders, whom in the scope American politics would be an equivalent to a McCain, that believes in some of the fundaments of Conservatism such as free trade, but otherwise is a moderate or even slightly Left of Center.

It is an attempt to control the narrative of what exactly is and is not Right and Left regardless of any actual factual basis for said narrative.

87 brent  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:47:52am

I guess the Nigerians he supported in the last election might also count, if you stretch terror to mean what they did to their opposition after losing...

I'm not 100% sure that kind of violence specifically meets the definition, but it's much closer than McCain is to the "far right".

88 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:48:10am

Let's not forget as well, that the Republican Party has meant more for Civil Rights in this nation's history than the Dems or their predecessors...

89 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:48:14am

re: #66 LittleGreenFavre

What? You don't like black? Maybe you're a raaacist!

/race card -off

LOL, If I was drinking beer, I would of spewed! Seriously I am one of the few whites still left in my government. I will say this, I have never worked with a harder working or intelligent group as the one I am in now. Just because our skins are different does not alter the fact that we are all thinking, feeling human beings. Thanx, workmates!

90 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:00am

re: #83 SurferDoc

I've been trying to think of another way to say he is a prissy little pansy.

His fascist moniker is "Il Douche"

91 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:00am

Why does Bill Ayres adore Hugo Chavez?
Why would Obama work with a man who adores Hugo Chavez?

92 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:26am

re: #64 jaunte

E. J. Dionne and the candidate he supports should heed his own advice:
"McCain Obama has an obligation, to his own legacy and the country he has served, to separate himself and his campaign from the kooks. Extremism in defense of liberty may be no vice, but extremism in pursuit of the presidency is as dysfunctional as it is degrading."

E. J.: see all past close associations of Obama's for a definition of the term 'ectremism.'

Heh.
E.J. and all of his ilk are blinded by B0's halo - the halo they put on him themselves.
They can't see anything beyond that halo.

93 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:28am

mccain is rockin' where was he before?
cutting capital gains in 1/2
increasing child deduction!

94 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:37am

re: #91 FrogMarch

Why does Bill Ayres adore Hugo Chavez?
Why would Obama work with a man who adores Hugo Chavez?

Because they're socialists who both hate America?

95 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:42am

McCain now speaking on his new economic plan that he was supposed unveil yesterday.

96 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:51am

re: #83 SurferDoc

I've been trying to think of another way to say he is a prissy little pansy.

Make reference to Richard II's young male (?, oh really?!) courtiers.

Sorry, it's incredibly obscure, but that's precisely what popped to mind.

97 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:49:51am

re: #78 yma o hyd

It is supposed to be a temporary measure, but it still gave me pause-- I just don't like the sound of it.

98 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:05am

re: #94 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Because they're socialists who both hate America?

why does b. hussein obama love che?

99 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:08am

re: #85 Eowyn2

EJ - Junior

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

nice little progressive

From your link, one of the books he wrote:

They Only Look Dead: Why Progressives Will Dominate the Next Political Era (1996)

They truly believe that their time has come...

100 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:22am

If McCain is far right just what does that make Gov Palin?

101 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:25am

Ya know, I am at the Airport now, having survived the suspected Felon Screening by TSA.
Just wondering, do you think that Bill Ayers is on a "No Fly" List or even a "Watch" List? I don't either.

102 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:28am

NO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE.


Say it, John.

fuck the left.

103 jamie  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:37am

re: #49 Middle-Earth

My condolence to you all.

And yes I think you lost it.

Very sad :-(

Come again?

104 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:44am

McCain's trying hard.

105 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:47am

re: #80 scottishbuzzsaw

"It's a mystery!"

HEH! We could run with that for quite a while, couldn't we!
(Great movie.)

106 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:55am

re: #68 LoFlyer
Uh, nope your nic isn't in blue! Ya gotta check the box and wait for it to actually come up and show your e-mail addy - if you're on FireFox or IE, anyway!

107 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:50:59am

re: #101 opnion

Ya know, I am at the Airport now, having survived the suspected Felon Screening by TSA.
Just wondering, do you think that Bill Ayers is on a "No Fly" List or even a "Watch" List? I don't either.

vip treatment definitely

108 gonecamping  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:51:02am

re: #91 FrogMarch

Quite frankly, no person who feels compelled to apologize to the world for America's so called faults deserves to even be a candidate for POTUS let alone set foot in the office.

109 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:51:23am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

McCain's trying hard.

i know, and it's working! he's winning me back!

110 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:51:26am

re: #43 Scion9

The real irony of comparing McCain to George Wallace is that the policies of the 'New Left' Democrats from the 60s, of which Obama is the natural offspring, are themselves directly descended from the political platforms of politicians like Wallace.

A belief in cultural distinction being strongly associated with race? Check.
Mostly isolationist, America first attitude? Check.
Strong populist and class warfare rhetoric? Check.
Strong anti-war rhetoric with no actual anti-war policiies? Check.

Of course, Wallace was also a Democrat.

Priceless comment. Well said!

111 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:51:52am

re: #96 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Make reference to Richard II's young male (?, oh really?!) courtiers.

Sorry, it's incredibly obscure, but that's precisely what popped to mind.

Richard II--Wow! I can see that I'll have to "Brush up my Shakespeare"!

112 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:52:13am

re: #99 scottishbuzzsaw

They truly believe that their time has come...

What a truly ironic title. It should be 'They Only Look Dead; But Trust Me They Still Vote'.

113 guitarguy  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:52:16am

Memo to E. J. Dionne :

Terrorist (singular) = Bill Ayers
Terrorists (plural) = Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn

114 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:52:50am

re: #107 phoenixgirl

vip treatment definitely

Yup, upgrades & cocktails & TNT if he calls ahead.

115 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:00am

re: #109 phoenixgirl

He's doing well today.

116 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:04am

re: #84 FrogMarch


I said this before and I'll say it again. Taxes influence behavior. If you tax something more, you get less of it. If you tax something less, you get more of it.

McCain wants to tax capital less. He wants to tax economic productivity less. He wants to tax Energy production less. So we will get relatively more of those things under McCain.

Obama wants to tax capital more. He wants to tax economic productivity more. He wants to tax Energy production more. So we will get relatively less of those things under Obama. As a kicker, Obama wants to subsidize healthcare consumption while taxing its provision - bizarro world of how that's going to work out ....

....Of course all of Obamas economic policies make sense to Paul Krugman, and he just won the Nobel proze for economics...so what do I know.

117 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:09am

How about now, mate? And please shoot me an email, you are one of my favorite lizard mates, mate.

118 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:14am

John needs to mention the ...... Spread the Wealth comment Obambi made yesterday ......... that pissed biz owners off bad ....

119 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:25am

re: #115 Killgore Trout

But yesterday was the time to give this speech.

120 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:28am

re: #105 pre-Boomer Marine brat

HEH! We could run with that for quite a while, couldn't we!
(Great movie.)

Indeed. (Loved it.)

121 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:37am
What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Does the name Bernardine Dohrn strike a chord? Ayers and Dohrn equal two. Plural. Terrorists.

Glad to help you out there E.J. "Scoop-I can dig out the facts" Dionne.

122 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:41am

The problem with ACORN is... it's full of nuts. /Longshanks

123 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:53:52am

Oh, yes he said the plumber spread the wealth....... yes

124 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:08am

Democrats in congress are corrupt a-holes.

What a waste of time.

125 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:08am

re: #118 JacksonTn

John needs to mention the ...... Spread the Wealth comment Obambi made yesterday ......... that pissed biz owners off bad ....

lol he did!

126 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:26am

re: #54 sparrowlake

As an objective observer, it appears to me that any Republican woman who votes for Obama is pretty racy.
And any Republican who does not vote for McCain is beyond the Palin.

ROTFLMAO

127 Middle-Earth  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:27am

re: #61 bellamags

What?

The election. zerobambi gonna win.

128 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:32am

He's mentioning the plumber!

129 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:39am

He said it again....... SPREAD THE WEALTH ....... we got a campaign meme ..... go with it ......

130 gonecamping  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:54:49am

re: #112 Scion9

What a truly ironic title. It should be 'They Only Look Dead; But Trust Me They Still Vote'.

I can see it now....ACORN voting registration booths at all funeral homes and nursery schools (they don't discriminate on the basis of age either)

131 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:19am

John McCain...far right extremist...pardon me whilst I laugh my ass off. What type of crack is this WaPo columnist smoking? Obviously it must be very good, soemthing along the Marion Barry variety.

McCain is as much a far right extremist as Ronald Reagan was a far left extremist.

Sheesh.

132 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:22am

re: #119 Killgore Trout

But yesterday was the time to give this speech.

he's only as good as his last speech, we would have forgotten by tomorrow i'm glad he's giving it today....acorn owned yesterday. mccain owns today!

133 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:28am

re: #127 Middle-Earth

The election. zerobambi gonna win.

don't put all your acorns in one basket.

134 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:31am

re: #84 FrogMarch

Obama's promises are already slowing down our economy. My business is slowing. Other are too. Economic idiots and cheaters are going to sweep a fraud into the white house.

Obama is going to tax the top 5% and give it to the un-productive. Obama is going to kill the Bush tax cuts so that everyone will get a tax increase. Obama is going to send out welfare checks to try and buy votes in his "tax credit" ponzi scheme. All of this will be the same type of house of cards that helped build and destroy Fannie and Freddie.

Productive working Americans are not going to support Obama's plan. We will opt out and it will kill his economy. Good luck coving for your fascist dictator then, EJ Dionne.

And let me add this, as a Brit but not an Euroweenie: all those 'citizens of the World' who have been hearting B0 these last weeks - well, if he gets in, there will be a huge hangover, and hugely empty pockets for you as well.
If the U.S. economy tanks - what do you think all the other economies will do?
Take up the slack?
Don't make me laugh!

135 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:55am

re: #111 SurferDoc

Richard II--Wow! I can see that I'll have to "Brush up my Shakespeare"!

My allusion didn't come from the Bard, but from history.

136 nigella  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:57am

Killgore, I disagree. It is better to hear what Obama was proposing let it sink in and the go after it.It didn't take long for most to realize Obama's "plan" was a giant welfare hand out.

137 pbird  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:55:59am

re: #49 Middle-Earth

My condolence to you all.

And yes I think you lost it.

Very sad :-(

Oh yeah?

138 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:01am

re: #100 Just_A_Grunt

Long time no see! Would you be interested in coming to the next ATL Lizard Meet-Up? Sunday, Nov. 9th at Manuel's Tavern, 5 p.m. We had a lot of fun last time, and we'd love to see you there.

139 Beach Lover  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:14am

OK..I don't want him to work across the aisle anymore. I want them to come to our side for a change! Does he not see the difference?

140 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:30am

re: #136 nigella

Good point.

141 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:40am

re: #118 JacksonTn

I watched the evening news with Charles Gibson and they showed the interview with the biz owner asking Obama about taxes and they cut off the his answer about spreading the wealth. I think that little fact would be useful for voters to know Charlie.

142 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:40am

re: #139 Beach Lover

OK..I don't want him to work across the aisle anymore. I want them to come to our side for a change! Does he not see the difference?

hmmmmmmm we may need to up his meds for that

143 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:43am

This must be what the plumber was thinking about when he asked that fateful question.

144 yesandno  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:56:50am

re: #84 FrogMarch

Obama's promises are already slowing down our economy. My business is slowing. Other are too. Economic idiots and cheaters are going to sweep a fraud into the white house.

Obama is going to tax the top 5% and give it to the un-productive. Obama is going to kill the Bush tax cuts so that everyone will get a tax increase. Obama is going to send out welfare checks to try and buy votes in his "tax credit" ponzi scheme. All of this will be the same type of house of cards that helped build and destroy Fannie and Freddie.

Productive working Americans are not going to support Obama's plan. We will opt out and it will kill his economy. Good luck coving for your fascist dictator then, EJ Dionne.

And when he is finished "taxing" the rich to the tune of redistribution of every dime of profit, the states are waiting to add to it all.

I knew when they taxed toilet paper, other sh!t wouldn't be far behind.

145 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:03am

re: #143 laZardo

Or rather, fearing...

146 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:08am

gotta go for now.

147 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:14am

re: #141 twincitiesgirl

I watched the evening news with Charles Gibson and they showed the interview with the biz owner asking Obama about taxes and they cut off the his answer about spreading the wealth. I think that little fact would be useful for voters to know Charlie.

Are you surprised they cut that off? Can't reveal Obama's nasty little secret....

148 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:19am

Good Lord! Read the comments that follow Dionne's article. One comment after the next, the Obama supporters and Democrats attack McCain supporters calling everything from "racists" to "facists" all the while accusing them of being mean spirited and smearing Obama.

If McCain wins this election I suspect some real bad craziness to follow.

149 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:21am

re: #131 Honorary Yooper

John McCain...far right extremist...pardon me whilst I laugh my ass off. What type of crack is this WaPo columnist smoking? Obviously it must be very good, soemthing along the Marion Barry variety.

McCain is as much a far right extremist as Ronald Reagan was a far left extremist.

Sheesh.

Damn. If Sen McCain is extreme far right-where in the hell does that place me? I always believed Sen McCain had the most liberal voting record as a Republican.

150 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:25am

re: #141 twincitiesgirl

I watched the evening news with Charles Gibson and they showed the interview with the biz owner asking Obama about taxes and they cut off the his answer about spreading the wealth. I think that little fact would be useful for voters to know Charlie.

I saw that too and it really pissed me off ... I have sent the whole video to many people with small biz

151 abolitionist  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:28am

Counterpoint - Sojourners

In the 1980s the Sojourners community actively embraced liberation theology, which teaches that the New Testament gospels can be properly understood only as calls for social activism, class struggle, and revolution aimed at overturning the existing capitalist order and installing, in its stead, a socialist utopia where today’s poor will unseat their “oppressors” and become liberated from their material (and, consequently, their spiritual) deprivations.
[snip]

On June 28, 2006, Barack Obama spoke at a Call to Renewal Conference sponsored by Sojourners. Among his comments were the following:

“After all, the problems of poverty and racism, the uninsured and the unemployed, are not simply technical problems in search of the perfect ten point plan. They are rooted in both societal indifference and individual callousness -- in the imperfections of man….

More:

As one of its first acts, Sojourners formed a commune in the Washington, D.C. neighborhood of Southern Columbia Heights. Members shared their finances, participated in various activist campaigns, and organized events at both the neighborhood and national levels. The themes of these campaigns, echoed monthly in the pages of the group's in-house publication Sojourners, centered on attacking U.S. foreign policy, denouncing American "imperialism," and extolling Marxist revolutionary movements in the Third World.

Giving voice to Sojourners' intense anti-Americanism, Jim Wallis called the U.S. "… the great power, the great seducer, the great captor and destroyer of human life, the great master of humanity and history in its totalitarian claims and designs."

In the 1980s the Sojourners community actively embraced "liberation theology," rallying to the cause of communist regimes that had seized power especially in Latin America, with the promise of bringing about the revolutionary restructuring of society.

Thanks, but I'll vote for the other guy, despite imperfections in myself and him.

152 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:28am

re: #144 yesandno

I knew when they taxed toilet paper, other sh!t wouldn't be far behind.

*rimshot*

153 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:30am

re: #138 doppelganglander

Long time no see! Would you be interested in coming to the next ATL Lizard Meet-Up? Sunday, Nov. 9th at Manuel's Tavern, 5 p.m. We had a lot of fun last time, and we'd love to see you there.

You go DGL! Keep it up mate!

154 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:49am

re: #118 JacksonTn

John needs to mention the ...... Spread the Wealth comment Obambi made yesterday ......... that pissed biz owners off bad ....

I just heard him mention it.

155 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:57:57am

re: #147 tfc3rid

It really pissed me off.

156 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:58:03am

re: #134 yma o hyd

And let me add this, as a Brit but not an Euroweenie: all those 'citizens of the World' who have been hearting B0 these last weeks - well, if he gets in, there will be a huge hangover, and hugely empty pockets for you as well.
If the U.S. economy tanks - what do you think all the other economies will do?
Take up the slack?
Don't make me laugh!

But the media will say - "15% unemployment is good under Chairman Obama. Come worship."

157 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:58:04am

re: #97 twincitiesgirl

It is supposed to be a temporary measure, but it still gave me pause-- I just don't like the sound of it.

We've got the same 'nationalisation plan' here - and there will be nothing temporary about it if NuLab and Gord stay in power, God help us!

If B0 gets in - forget about 'temporary', that'll be not just permanent, it'll be just the start as well ...

158 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:58:07am

re: #130 gonecamping

I can see it now....ACORN voting registration booths at all funeral homes and nursery schools (they don't discriminate on the basis of age either)

Or body temperature.

159 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:58:23am

YES!

160 J.S.  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:58:31am

You know, if this WaPo writer really wanted to hear speeches "built around fear, xenophobia, racism and anger", all that would be necessary is attend one of Rev Wright's "sermons"...the very sermons that Obama had no problems listening to for 20 years...And, an angry, hate-inspired, terrorist-lover, extremist associated, drug user, may very well become the next POTUS...

161 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:58:56am

I'll give him an A for effort today.

162 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:59:05am

re: #150 JacksonTn

I saw that too and it really pissed me off ... I have sent the whole video to many people with small biz

me too

/gmta

163 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:59:12am

re: #155 twincitiesgirl

It really pissed me off.

That is misrepresenting the KEY moment of the entire clip... But that is how the American news media wants their guy portrayed... It is clear. The media is not operating as journalist, it is operating as cheerleader...

164 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:59:17am

The Left has really pulled out all of the stops for this campaign, Voter Fraud, MSM cheerleding & manipulation of public opnion & the constant charge of racism anytime that their candidate is criticised for anything.
They then complain that te opposition does not deaol with issues.
McCain should have exposed this at every opportunity instead of, "My friends, we must be respectful" Yeah, they have so respected Sarah Palin.

165 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:59:38am

Strong finish but I get the feeling his enthusiasm was a little forced. Better than nothing.

166 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:13am

re: #138 doppelganglander
Sounds like fun. Where is manuels Tavern?

167 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:33am

Wish at the debate he would just point a finger at Obama ...... Socialism .....He won't but I wish he would ......

168 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:33am

re: #50 LoFlyer

GC, I will be camping with 'me non-lizard mates this weekend. Sitting around a campfire, drinking beer, and arguing politics. That's the life mates!

I'm so jealous -- have a great time. Cool outdoor air soothes the soul.

169 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:41am

re: #98 phoenixgirl

why does b. hussein obama love che?

I wonder if he'll knock out a wall so he can watch firing squads in the rose garden.

170 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:46am

re: #77 onslow WOW, interesting morning on LGF - still can't get the Strike, or Bold buttons to work and post button is working sporadically - I wrote to ya, hit post this comment and whammo - off LFG!
Anyway no, the MSM NEVER UNDERSTANDS THE ECONOMICS OF IT'S OWN BUSINESS.
When I grew up in and around NYC, some 30-35 years ago there were more than a dozen, more or less respectable newpapers. Now there's only the NYT, Daily News, NY Post and WSJ. The rest, including especially The Herald American, the NY Mirror, The NY Journal American etc., all went under due to the pressures of the economics of the Unions - in particular the United Pressman.
And of course ALL of the remaining NYC papers are having difficult times, as are the news divisions of the big three networks, economically because survey after survey show's most folks don't believe the crap they see on TV or read in the newspapers anymore either.

171 West Coast Freedom  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:46am
” What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Ooo, tuff question. Bernadinedumbass would be an easy guess.

172 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:00:50am

re: #161 Killgore Trout

I'll give him an A for effort today.

But we both agree he must continue to being his message forward with clarity and enthusiasm... He's got to hit these points at the debate tomorrow night... Put The One on the spot with the plumber and sharing the wealth... I'm sure Obama is spending his day today memorizing his answer to that one...

173 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:01:13am

re: #163 tfc3rid

Charlie Gibson was one of the few journalists I thought was somewhat fair, but no longer am I under that illusion.

174 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:01:28am

re: #109 phoenixgirl

i know, and it's working! he's winning me back!

email me, Phoenix girl. Potential election day party.

nic blue

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:01:43am

re: #118 JacksonTn

I am going to keep telling about this...Yesterday Bob Beckel had a slip...

"We want to redistribute the weal...uh...tax burden...."

Really. He said that.

Combined with "Spread the Wealth Around"... kinda spooky.

176 Russkilitlover  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:01:43am

re: #123 JacksonTn

Oh, yes he said the plumber spread the wealth....... yes

Not only said that but also something to the effect......"You have to give the guy behind you a chance, too." You know that guy - the one who's been unemployed for six years, lives on disability but goes jet skiing every weekend. Gotta make sure he gets some of Mr. Plumber's pie.

177 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:02:01am

re: #170 realwest

WOW, interesting morning on LGF - still can't get the Strike, or Bold buttons to work and post button is working sporadically - I wrote to ya, hit post this comment and whammo - off LFG!
Anyway no, the MSM NEVER UNDERSTANDS THE ECONOMICS OF IT'S OWN BUSINESS.
When I grew up in and around NYC, some 30-35 years ago there were more than a dozen, more or less respectable newpapers. Now there's only the NYT, Daily News, NY Post and WSJ. The rest, including especially The Herald American, the NY Mirror, The NY Journal American etc., all went under due to the pressures of the economics of the Unions - in particular the United Pressman.
And of course ALL of the remaining NYC papers are having difficult times, as are the news divisions of the big three networks, economically because survey after survey show's most folks don't believe the crap they see on TV or read in the newspapers anymore either.

Are you using FF?

178 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:02:28am

re: #173 twincitiesgirl

Charlie Gibson was one of the few journalists I thought was somewhat fair, but no longer am I under that illusion.

After his school-headmaster like interrogation of Sarah Palin, his credibility was completely gone...

179 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:02:55am

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

180 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:02:57am

re: #173 twincitiesgirl

Charlie Gibson was one of the few journalists I thought was somewhat fair, but no longer am I under that illusion.

delusion

181 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:03:08am

re: #166 Just_A_Grunt

Sounds like fun. Where is manuels Tavern?

Near little five points, Grunt. North avenue and North highland. DGL reports they have a web site and you can get directions from there. Here's a link. Love to see you there mate!

182 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:03:23am

re: #179 Killgore Trout

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

you are marked

183 BrianA  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:03:23am

We're supposed to think Dionne has any credibility after this?

184 Archimedes  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:06am

re: #23 LittleGreenFavre

Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William Ayers, comes to my mind. Maybe Gov. Palin was thinking about her too.

Bingo!
We have to do the work for these "journalists", it seems.

185 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:07am

re: #182 phoenixgirl

Weird.

186 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:07am

re: #134 yma o hyd

And let me add this, as a Brit but not an Euroweenie: all those 'citizens of the World' who have been hearting B0 these last weeks - well, if he gets in, there will be a huge hangover, and hugely empty pockets for you as well.
If the U.S. economy tanks - what do you think all the other economies will do?
Take up the slack?
Don't make me laugh!

I see different reactions from different parts of the world.....

The Europeans will applaud the 'equalization' of America as long overdo. We can all be mediocre together!

The Asians will seize the opportunity. They will buy assets (commodities) at lower prices and fuel their growth. India and China will become the dominant world economies sooner.

The Arabs - it's scary to think what's going to evolve there, but it is the greatest inknown. If Obama's 'alternative energy' dream pans out - the Arabs may sink to oblivion. I have bid doubts that 'alternative energy' is really feasible. So I expect Oil will go back to $150, which the Arabs would like, but if there is enough economic decline, Oil may stay low, which the Arabs will hate.

187 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:24am

re: #179 Killgore Trout

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

Like a PIN # or account ID for internal tracking of databases and comments is my guess

188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:37am

M-I-C (vote for Obama)
K-E-Y (why? Cause he said so)
M-O-U-S-EEEEEEEEEEE.

189 MJBrutus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:39am

I may as well go out and get that scarlet "R" for racist tattoo on my forehead today. That way I won't have to stand in line when it becomes mandatory.

190 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:50am

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am going to keep telling about this...Yesterday Bob Beckel had a slip...

"We want to redistribute the weal...uh...tax burden...."

Really. He said that.

Combined with "Spread the Wealth Around"... kinda spooky.

Yes, I saw that ....... he does that all the time ..... must be hitting the sauce during the memorizing session ...... I cannot stand the guy .....

191 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:53am

omg, i'm marked too

192 Brees  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:53am

We can all see that this is obvious.

Anything that a Republican says or does when related to Obama, is seen as racist.

Without the Left keeping racism alive.........they'd have nothing left of their party

193 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:04:54am

re: #93 phoenixgirl
Personally I think McCain is rocking - and has been for the last two days - cause of all the Southern Air he's been inhaling!
No joke - his rally in N.C. yesterday was phenominal.
Detailed, item by item "critique" of Obama and today a detailed, point by point economic plan.
Course Obama has an economic plan, too: Tax everyone who's working or owns a business!

194 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:01am

Portae Inferi Non Praevalebunt, Mr.Dionne, you 180 degree twister.

195 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:46am

re: #178 tfc3rid

After his school-headmaster like interrogation of Sarah Palin, his credibility was completely gone...

I gave him the benefit of the doubt on that since I heard McCain pulled that interview from CNN because of an obnoxious reporter (do they have any other kind?) and gave it specifically to him. So I think he was trying to be the biggest d*ck out there and he succeeded.

196 Maine's Michael  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:47am

Uh, what's wrogn with guilt by association?

People are actually convicted of crimes when they associate with criminals they have factual knowledge of having committed crimes. It's called aiding and abetting.

While this does not apply here to Obama, my Dad used to say 'tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are.'

197 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:48am

re: #179 Killgore Trout

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

I've meant to ask you about your avatar -- superimposed on Gautama Buddha's body is your head? If so, you look a tad like Hunter Thompson with that cig dangling from your lips.

198 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:50am

re: #99 scottishbuzzsaw

They truly believe that their time has come...

we are the people we've been waiting for.

199 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:51am

re: #168 hermeneutics

I'm so jealous -- have a great time. Cool outdoor air soothes the soul.

Thanks mate! We are supposed to have cold front hit this weekend, the first really cool weather this year. I hate standing around a campfire when its not cold! This will be interesting as at least two of my camp-mates will be black, and I will be interested in hearing their take on the politics!

200 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:05:58am

My daughter installed security systems for the summer in Boston.

She said they would install them in the projects and in subsidized housing. She said it was great because almost every unit had someone at home, so their salesman would love to sell in those areas. In the subsidized housing right on the waterfront, not only were people home during the middle of the day, she said, but they had really nice cars parked in the parking lot.

I asked her if it looked like they were working at home. She said not really - the big flat screen TV's were usually on and often there were several people in the apartment.

201 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:00am
Since Obama was a child when Ayers was part of the Weather Underground, and since even Republicans have served on boards with Ayers, this is classic guilt by association.

It's not how many meetings they shared. It's not how many boards on which they shared service. It's not how much money was shared between their various organizations. It's their shared agenda, which they still share.

202 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:08am

re: #193 realwest

Personally I think McCain is rocking - and has been for the last two days - cause of all the Southern Air he's been inhaling!
No joke - his rally in N.C. yesterday was phenominal.
Detailed, item by item "critique" of Obama and today a detailed, point by point economic plan.
Course Obama has an economic plan, too: Tax everyone who's working or owns a business!

Yes, but John McCain has got to deliver his points tomorrow with confidence and clarity...

203 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:17am

re: #193 realwest

Personally I think McCain is rocking - and has been for the last two days - cause of all the Southern Air he's been inhaling!
No joke - his rally in N.C. yesterday was phenominal.
Detailed, item by item "critique" of Obama and today a detailed, point by point economic plan.
Course Obama has an economic plan, too: Tax everyone who's working or owns a business!

he was great yesterday as well, i'm glad he's back, hope he sucks in enough southern air to win the election!

204 lostlakehiker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:26am

re: #16 Scion9

He was segregationist, southern Governor (Mississippi?). An 'Old Right' paleo-populist, isolationist like Pat Buchanan. He ran for POTUS, with Curtis LeMay as his running mate. He, like most openly racist pols, recanted later in life after the success of the Civil Rights movement.

Wallace seemed sincerely repentant. An assassination attempt against him left him crippled, and that prompted some reflection. Like Charles Colson, of Watergate infamy but later the founder of an organization inspired by the life of William Wilberforce, Wallace went far beyond the requirements of a perfunctory and minimal apology.

205 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:27am

re: #186 DeafDog

The Europeans will applaud the 'equalization' of America as long overdo. We can all be mediocre together!

Exactly.

206 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:33am

re: #160 J.S.

You know, if this WaPo writer really wanted to hear speeches "built around fear, xenophobia, racism and anger", all that would be necessary is attend one of Rev Wright's "sermons"...the very sermons that Obama had no problems listening to for 20 years...And, an angry, hate-inspired, terrorist-lover, extremist associated, drug user, may very well become the next POTUS...

It is shameful that one of Wright's flock is this close to the presidency. George Washington is rolling over in his grave.

207 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:47am

re: #183 BrianA

We're supposed to think Dionne has any credibility after this?

No, if BHO wins , they won't care at all what we think.
Dionne & his ilk expect an instituting of the New World Order, where only the opinion of the "Enlightened" class will matter.

208 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:49am

The Towercam is on the fritz, Lizards.

I will post it as soon as they get repaired; I should know pretty soon, it is my default browser screen.

209 right Brain  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:51am

I would get used to this race and class baiting: the leash is now off the moon-bat Left, with a Dem President and Dem Congress we will have a government of hate-filled liars looking for payback for being out of power for a generation.

The wild-card will be inflation: get a fixed mortgage and just sit back and watch the socialist mess form. Another Reagan is on the way.

210 deanyc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:06:55am

Here's an interesting tidbit regarding William Ayers. I was on the train into NYC from Stamford, CT, last evening, when Mr. Ayers came walking down the aisle in a jean jacket and t-shirt that said "Resist and Survive" with a giant red-fist symbol. He joined Bernardine Dohrn near the doors of the train, and the two of them got off at 125th Street with their luggage.

Just a sighting.

211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:07:00am

re: #198 Eowyn2

we are the people we've been waiting for.

Why are people waiting for anybody?

212 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:07:04am

re: #193 realwest

Course Obama has an economic plan, too: Tax everyone who's working or owns a business!

Everyone's gotta give!

/in both senses of the word...

213 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:07:05am

re: #189 MJBrutus

I may as well go out and get that scarlet "R" for racist tattoo on my forehead today. That way I won't have to stand in line when it becomes mandatory.

I have to wear the C---- armband if Obama wins. Racist and C---

214 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:07:45am

re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why are people waiting for anybody?

Losers wait. Winners move.

215 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:07:46am

re: #156 FrogMarch

But the media will say - "15% unemployment is good under Chairman Obama. Come worship."

Yep - because its not the fault of B0, its the fault of all those bitter, clinging small business owners who won't emply layabouts and shirkers - tax 'em even more! That'll teach'em!

216 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:08:00am

re: #104 Killgore Trout
OK you - what have you done with our Killgore Trout?
We want him back NOW!

217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:08:17am

re: #214 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Losers wait. Winners move.

IF IT IS TO BE, IT IS UP TO ME!

218 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:08:24am

re: #199 LoFlyer

Thanks mate! We are supposed to have cold front hit this weekend, the first really cool weather this year. I hate standing around a campfire when its not cold! This will be interesting as at least two of my camp-mates will be black, and I will be interested in hearing their take on the politics!

Don't drink too much, then, for you'll need your wit(s).

219 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:08:55am

Well McCain, have you learned that the MSN & Dem's are NOT your friends.

Instead of reaching acrossthe isle to shake their hand, why don't you smack it instead! )-:

220 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:08:59am

re: #210 deanyc

Here's an interesting tidbit regarding William Ayers. I was on the train into NYC from Stamford, CT, last evening, when Mr. Ayers came walking down the aisle in a jean jacket and t-shirt that said "Resist and Survive" with a giant red-fist symbol. He joined Bernardine Dohrn near the doors of the train, and the two of them got off at 125th Street with their luggage.

Just a sighting.

Interesting... And the debate tomorrow night is on Long Island...

221 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:09:07am

E.J. Dionne, fossilized moonbat.

222 runrabbitrun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:09:11am

The left is determined to take this election by fraud, misrepresentation and lies of omission and commission from start to finish, top to bottom.

In a historically critical election year, the Dems are performing like the slickest used car salesmen, selling the public a wrecked street hulk, reconstructed with tinfoil and painted over in gloss, a simulacrum of a brand new, reliable family sedan .

223 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:10:10am

re: #222 runrabbitrun

Sawdust in the crankcase oil, oatmeal in the coolant.

224 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:10:28am

re: #219 Dustoff-507

Well McCain, have you learned that the MSN & Dem's are NOT your friends.

Instead of reaching acrossthe isle to shake their hand, why don't you smack it instead! )-:

McCain bought into the whole Maverick frenzy because the media wanted him so bad in 2000 but then the evil George W. Bush screwed him over in SC... He was their darling...

225 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:10:31am

BBL

226 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:10:38am

Anyone see the Mahoney story anywhere in the MSM?

227 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:10:50am

re: #117 LoFlyer Done!

228 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:10:56am

If you don't like the news, make some of your own.
/Scoop Nisker

229 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:03am

re: #196 Maine's Michael

Uh, what's wrogn with guilt by association?

People are actually convicted of crimes when they associate with criminals they have factual knowledge of having committed crimes. It's called aiding and abetting.

While this does not apply here to Obama, my Dad used to say 'tell me who your friends are, and I will tell you who you are.'

Arguably it infringes upon a citizens right to freely associate with who they choose. It is something that goes back to the corrupt courts before the Revolution, when associations were used to convict otherwise innocent men for their political views.

However, there is no provision that states that one cannot be judged by the public for their actions, including whom they choose to associate with.

230 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:05am

Mahoney? Who is Mahoney?

231 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:05am

Had anyone here heard of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers prior to Palin being chosen for veep candidate? Ayers would not be an issue if it weren't for her mean spirited racism, bigotry and bulldog attitude.

232 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:10am

Man, I am really having a great time listening to Pandora.com, the AI after several weeks seems to have figured what I like and is throwing me the grooves! Haar!

233 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:19am

re: #179 Killgore Trout

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

Charles is telling you that he's got your number.
/heh heh heh (-:

234 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:21am

re: #222 runrabbitrun

The left is determined to take this election by fraud, misrepresentation and lies of omission and commission from start to finish, top to bottom.

In a historically critical election year, the Dems are performing like the slickest used car salesmen, selling the public a wrecked street hulk, reconstructed with tinfoil and painted over in gloss, a simulacrum of a brand new, reliable family sedan .


Uh huh, this is a bloodless revolution & they intend to win by the old"Any means necessary."

235 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:34am

re: #194 Ojoe

Portae Inferi Non Praevalebunt, Mr.Dionne, you 180 degree twister.

Thomas Merton (your avatar)? Most excellent!

236 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:37am

re: #166 Just_A_Grunt

Sounds like fun. Where is manuels Tavern?

At the corner of North Avenue and North Highland Avenue. Google map right here. Sure hope you can make it.

237 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:39am

re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

IF IT IS TO BE, IT IS UP TO ME!

Where did our beloved strength and individualism go?

238 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:11:50am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Pit Bull attitude. Sheesh!

239 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:06am

re: #228 Who Watches the Watchmen?

If you don't like the news, make some of your own.
/Scoop Nisker

Dan Rather

fixed.

240 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:07am

re: #235 Ward Cleaver

Thank you. Now I must really get to work.

241 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:30am

re: #119 Killgore Trout
No, cause yesterday woulda given the Obama camp another day to try to distort and plan attacks on it in the debate tomorrow night!
I say again - who are you and what have you done with our Killgore Trout. We want him back NOW!

242 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:34am

re: #181 LoFlyer

Near little five points, Grunt. North avenue and North highland. DGL reports they have a web site and you can get directions from there. Here's a link. Love to see you there mate!


We were doing good until I read this.

The New York Times Magazine has called it "Atlanta's quintessential neighborhood bar."


I will try to make it

243 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:37am

re: #235 Ward Cleaver

And yes that is Thomas Merton.

BBL

244 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:37am

re: #224 tfc3rid

McCain bought into the whole Maverick frenzy because the media wanted him so bad in 2000 but then the evil George W. Bush screwed him over in SC... He was their darling...

And he can be their guy again. All he has to do is be a good loser, but above all a loser.

245 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:44am

re: #210 deanyc

Here's an interesting tidbit regarding William Ayers. I was on the train into NYC from Stamford, CT, last evening, when Mr. Ayers came walking down the aisle in a jean jacket and t-shirt that said "Resist and Survive" with a giant red-fist symbol. He joined Bernardine Dohrn near the doors of the train, and the two of them got off at 125th Street with their luggage.

Just a sighting.

The things you see when you don't have a...

Oh, never mind.

246 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:59am

re: #224 tfc3rid
He sure did....kissing up all the way. Now he has one heck of a blackeye by the same MSN & dem's who so loved him.

I hope he has learned

247 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:09am

re: #230 tfc3rid

Mahoney? Who is Mahoney?

Winchell-Mahoney Time?

248 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:36am

re: #197 hermeneutics

That's Christopher Hitchen's head on Buddha''s body. Just a bit of blasphemy.

249 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:36am

*gasps* Sarah's going to be on Rush next hour around 1:30 ET!

250 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:42am

re: #210 deanyc

Here's an interesting tidbit regarding William Ayers. I was on the train into NYC from Stamford, CT, last evening, when Mr. Ayers came walking down the aisle in a jean jacket and t-shirt that said "Resist and Survive" with a giant red-fist symbol. He joined Bernardine Dohrn near the doors of the train, and the two of them got off at 125th Street with their luggage.

Just a sighting.

And yet he lives? ;)

251 Dianna  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:47am

re: #228 Who Watches the Watchmen?

You used to listen to KFOG?

252 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:53am

re: #230 tfc3rid

Mahoney? Who is Mahoney?

I saw that name somewhere this morning.

253 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:13:58am

I'll trust you're being facetious. But in case you're not, just make sure you never have a phone call like this one if you're having extramarital affairs with an employee.

254 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:14:02am

re: #218 hermeneutics

Don't drink too much, then, for you'll need your wit(s).

Not sure I will need them, Elton is a superior systems administrator and straight up guy, with a side business. I would not be surprised if he is a McCain supporter!

255 deanyc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:14:11am

re: #220 tfc3rid

It is, indeed, interesting. It was him, and I was the only one on the train who immediately recognized him, with a tiny hoop earring in each ear, jeans and sandals. He knew I recognized him, and I wanted to say something but didn.t Instead, I went and stood next to him and his wife, who has a tattoo no her left breast, which was all too visible. She stunk of patchouli incense, and I kid you not. I really wanted to say something, because I find it difficult to understand why they're not in jail.

256 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:14:25am

re: #237 scottishbuzzsaw

Where did our beloved strength and individualism go?

I blame the education system. "None of you are better than anyone else." "Everyone is special". "Everyone gets a medal for participating." That kind of garbage. A sense of competition and drive must be cultivated and nutured. Schools today squash it at almost every turn.

257 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:14:28am

kilgore, we all have numbers but they are private so we can't see each others.

i don't like mine, i want to trade

258 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:14:37am

"Jump to Bottom" In firefox is doing a return to home page for me.

The press, kos, and the Obama campaign are on a common grapevine. A lot of collusion going on there. Classic bullies.

259 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:14:46am

re: #239 Ford_Prefect

Scoop Nisker said it, but Gunga Dan did it. Courage!

260 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:10am

re: #227 realwest

Done!

Thanks Real, I'll get back to you asap, like tomorrow!

261 RTLM  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:25am

Are we witnessing the reemergence of the far right as a power in American politics?

I sure the Hell hope so.

262 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:31am

re: #257 phoenixgirl

kilgore, we all have numbers but they are private so we can't see each others.

i don't like mine, i want to trade

actually i do like mine........wow, i really like my number

263 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:34am

re: #2 RaiderDan

Liberal Media = Double Standardsfascist propagandists

Fixed it for ya

264 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:50am

Drive by OT

Rush will be interviewing Sarah Palin in approx. 1 hour 20 min.

265 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:51am

re: #255 deanyc

She stunk of patchouli incense

That's it. Throw her in jail! Hermetically sealed jail!

266 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:52am
267 ToastyPuffins  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:15:57am

Far right? Hardly.

Didn't he almost become a Democrat in 2001?
Wasn't he seriously considered for the Kerry VP slot in 2004?

Those are rhetorical questions - the answers are 'yes', of course.

Its striking how strident partisans try to paint McCain as extremest, when he is in fact one of the true bipartisan politicians in Washington.

268 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:16:01am

re: #241 realwest

I've always been a contrarian and I'm one of those liberal lizards. Maybe you've just forgotten but I'm not even a Republican.

269 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:16:18am

re: #121 Outrider
NOT TO MENTION that Billy Boy and Bernadine voluntarily raised Kathy Boudin's child (after their good SDS bud Boudin was sentenced for the murder of an Armed Guard while trying to fund the revolution).

270 Jinx  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:16:19am

If McCain is a far-right extremist, what does that make me? I consider McCain to be a centrist. Most of the country knows he's centrist.

McCain needs to hammer Obama on his connections to Ayers and ACORN, especially ACORN in this next debate. He has played too much crossing the aisles with the Dems to realize that in order to win he's got to throw and land some solid punches.

As Americans we may say we hate negative politics. For a good part, we do. But let's be brutally honest. We love negative politics just as much as we hate it. Americans love watching two or more people just go at it. Why do you think boxing is so popular? Football? Baseball? It's about watching two opponents compete against each other and making solid plays, solid hits. We WANT to see it.

So, McCain, if you want to win you've got to play to win. Hit hard and knock this bum out of the ring. Our country cannot afford to have Obama at the helm.

271 Darwin Akbar  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:16:32am

We knew this was coming. We live in Bizarro World, where Obama can speak of "spreading the wealth," and anyone who disagrees is a right-wing extremist.

Obama's minister shrieks hatred against white people and publishes libels about Jews, but to critique him is racist.

Obama Youth can sing and march, pledging loyalty to the Chosen One, but when one person out of 10,000 shouts out an insult, the Republicans are hate-mongers.

The world has gone truly insane. I fear that when the Medial drags this rotten corpse over the finish line, we'll see "Obama Community Organizers" all over the country, massive vote fraud going forward and a concerted push to regulate radio and the Internet in order to surpress free speech.

And once Deval Patrick or Hillary Clinton gets appointed to the Supreme Court, it'll happen.

272 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:16:42am

re: #254 LoFlyer

Not sure I will need them, Elton is a superior systems administrator and straight up guy, with a side business. I would not be surprised if he is a McCain supporter!

Nice!

My college-age daughter has a black roomie who is voting for McCain. She's afraid to tell her parents! So funny.

I think the next generation of AAs will not be as racialist as those in the past. My hope.

273 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:21am

re: #16 Scion9

He, like most openly racist pols, recanted later in life after the success of the Civil Rights movement.

Did Bobby Byrd ever do that?

274 deanyc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:21am

I did want to smack him in the head. But only leftists do that.

275 MJBrutus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:24am

re: #222 runrabbitrun

Michelle Malkin has a piece today on a couple whose credit card was fraudulently charged for $2300 to the ONE's campaign.

276 equable  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:32am

Off topic, but... the shite gets thicker and thicker.

ACORN registers Mickey Mouse

This is making 2000 look like Romper Room.

277 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:32am

re: #256 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I blame the education system. "None of you are better than anyone else." "Everyone is special". "Everyone gets a medal for participating." That kind of garbage. A sense of competition and drive must be cultivated and nutured. Schools today squash it at almost every turn.

Considering that one of Dewey's goals for public education was to make the citizenry more politically malleable, your insight is spot on...

278 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:36am

re: #262 phoenixgirl

actually i do like mine........wow, i really like my number

Did you see my message to you above? Potential election day party in Phoenix area. Nic blue. Please write!

279 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:43am

re: #255 deanyc

It is, indeed, interesting. It was him, and I was the only one on the train who immediately recognized him, with a tiny hoop earring in each ear, jeans and sandals. He knew I recognized him, and I wanted to say something but didn.t Instead, I went and stood next to him and his wife, who has a tattoo no her left breast, which was all too visible. She stunk of patchouli incense, and I kid you not. I really wanted to say something, because I find it difficult to understand why they're not in jail.

Guys like him tried their best to destroy my world. It would take all the restraint I possess not to explain to him who and what he really is in terms he would long remember.

280 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:17:46am
281 dgax65  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:05am

To all of those Republicans back in Washington:

NOW do see that the media will never, ever be on your side? They will prop you up when it suits their purposes, but they will never be on your side. If you think that selling out the conservatives who got you elected will buy you some good press; think again. Look at John McCain and see what was inevitable. The media loved him WHEN HE WORKED AGAINST BUSH. Now, what does he get? Do you see any puff pieces on him now? This is a man who thought that the media was his constituency. Let this be a lesson to you. The MSM represents liberal ideology and interests. They will ALWAYS do everything in their power to advance the liberal agenda. You will not change that by selling out the people who got you into office.
Get a damn clue.

282 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:07am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Had anyone here heard of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers prior to Palin being chosen for veep candidate? Ayers would not be an issue if it weren't for her mean spirited racism, bigotry and bulldog attitude.

forget the sarc tag?

283 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:11am

re: #226 bosforus

Nope... it's an amazing thing... You have the same exact district involving the Mark Foley mess and Congressional Democrats act in the exact same way as their GOP colleagues - complete with knowledge of the scandal, attempts to bury it prior to the election, and in this case, you've got the infidelity, payoff, and everything on tape... yet the media doesn't seem particularly interested.

The difference? It's the (D) tag.

It's a get out of media scot-free card.

The coverup is worse than the infidelity by Mahoney, and the Democrat leadership is up to the gills in it.... especially Rahm Emanuel, and you can be sure that Pelosi knows too. But no one in the media is pressing for investigations and Mahoney to step down - as they should (and did in Foley's case).

284 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:26am

Even Rush is slamming McCain for his lib side

285 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:43am

re: #242 Just_A_Grunt

Well, it's pretty much a Democrat bar, but that's what makes it fun. Last Sunday was my first visit -- the food is good, the beer is cheap, and the service was excellent. There were a few people with Obama buttons and such, but no one was checking Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy cards at the door.

286 phoenixgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:49am

re: #278 hermeneutics

Did you see my message to you above? Potential election day party in Phoenix area. Nic blue. Please write!

yes, got the message! i will email you! we have quite a few lizards in the area.

287 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:18:58am

re: #266 ploome hineni

no way

people can freely associate with whomever they want, and others can freely infer some common understanding by this association

this 'non judgemental' busines defies reason

Oh I agree. See my last sentence. I'm just saying that is where the 'logic' comes from.

288 Florida Lady  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:19:05am

re: #230 tfc3rid

Mahoney? Who is Mahoney?


A little blip on the ABC blog, then poof!

Part of his district in Florida (District #16) is Charlotte County . . . about 20 miles north of me. Luckily we're hearing about it around here, and I did my part by emailing the story to every local news organization around here . . . tee hee.

Mahoney is sleazy . . . surrounding himself with military vets in his ads. Wonder how many of them will jump ship after hearing about this.

And Mahoney is Rush's congressman, so he'll help publicize it!

Rooney, the guy running against Mahoney is a good man. He was having a news conference around here somewhere today. I'm sure the subject will be brought up. At least local TV will cover it.

I predict Mahoney will be thrown out on his rear next month.

289 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:19:33am

re: #148 Ringo the Gringo
Hey Ringo "If McCain Obama wins this election I suspect some real bad craziness to follow." Thought I'd fix that for ya!

290 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:20:01am
291 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:20:03am

re: #276 equable

I had a classmate in kindergarten named Peter Pan.

/no srsly!

292 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:20:10am

re: #283 lawhawk

Saw a CBS article about it but it was only his denial of the events. Surprise, surprise.

293 MJBrutus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:20:14am

re: #288 Florida Lady

I predict Mahoney will be thrown out on his rear next month.

I predict he'll be given a committee chairmanship.

294 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:20:14am

re: #273 unreconstructed rebel

Did Bobby Byrd ever do that?

Yes he did. He didn't go shout it from the mountain tops or anything though.

295 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:20:41am

re: #268 Killgore Trout

I've always been a contrarian and I'm one of those liberal lizards. Maybe you've just forgotten but I'm not even a Republican.

You are of the "Contrarian Party"?

Whatever. Whatever the party affiliation is does not matter to me. It is a matter of "common sense" to me.

296 runrabbitrun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:21:00am

re: #234 opnion

Uh huh, this is a bloodless revolution & they intend to win by the old"Any means necessary."

Remember when I said here that the right defines this presidential campaign as a passionate philosophical debate to be won, but the left sees this as a war, a war that they have already taken to the streets?

We hadn't even seen Acorn fully deployed when I posted that.

297 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:21:19am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Um... what?

298 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:21:22am

re: #291 laZardo

I had a classmate in kindergarten named Peter Pan.

/no srsly!

I worked with a girl named Wendy Darling.

299 jaunte  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:21:22am

re: #289 realwest

When the future "wealth-spreading" begins, a lot of people who are asleep now are going to wake up and wonder how they got into this mess.

300 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:21:43am

re: #272 hermeneutics

Nice!

My college-age daughter has a black roomie who is voting for McCain. She's afraid to tell her parents! So funny.

I think the next generation of AAs will not be as racialist as those in the past. My hope.

I wonder how many people there are like your daughter's roommate. If there's going to be a Bradley effect anywhere, it could be in black voters lying to pollsters because they're afraid to admit they're for McCain.

301 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:22:07am

re: #153 LoFlyer
UH, my friend - PLEASE be careful about saying WHERE the meet up is gonna be - when I was in NYC, the last meet-up before I came to one was publized out here and some crazy mofo's came to just cause a disturbance.
Just saying, ya know?!

302 opnion  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:22:25am

I am hearing that the Arizona Republican Party is furios with McCain, for running such a passive campaign ( I was just out there),that he would have a hard time holding his Senate seat.
Might be just the people that I talked to.

303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:22:25am

re: #298 SurferDoc

I worked with a girl named Wendy Darling.

I knew a whole family of Darlings. Played bluegrass music, had a sister Darlene....lived in Mayberry.

304 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:22:26am

re: #268 Killgore Trout

I've always been a contrarian and I'm one of those liberal lizards. Maybe you've just forgotten but I'm not even a Republican.

However ... you ARE part of what keeps this from becoming an echo chamber.

*lifting coffee cup in a toast*

305 Jinx  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:22:59am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Had anyone here heard of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers prior to Palin being chosen for veep candidate? Ayers would not be an issue if it weren't for her mean spirited racism, bigotry and bulldog attitude.

Nonsense. Ayers was in our sights long before Palin became the VP nominee.

The question is: Is Ayers a terrorist? The answer is simple: Yes.
Did Obama associate with Ayers? Yes
Does it matter what color Obama's skin is (or Ayers for that matter)? No.

Ayers can be considered a less-successful Timothy McVeigh. Would you and your liberal colleagues associate with Timothy McVeigh today? Or how about Osama bin Laden? Ayers wanted to be able to do more, OBL did. Would you and your ilk associate with OBL?

Stop hiding your pretended outrage behind a the transparently thin race card. You know Obama's associations and judgment are horrendous--and that should be enough to disqualify him from the Presidential seat. His judgment sucks.

306 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:23:16am

re: #179 Killgore Trout

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

Has anyone answered this?
This is your LGF registration number.
Everybody sees their own but not anyone else's.

307 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:23:22am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a whole family of Darlings. Played bluegrass music, had a sister Darlene....lived in Mayberry.


Ron Darling used to pitch for the mets.

308 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:23:30am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Had anyone here heard of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers prior to Palin being chosen for veep candidate? Ayers would not be an issue if it weren't for her mean spirited racism, bigotry and bulldog attitude.

Yes, and the media knew also but they did not want to cover it ...... we all knew .....was that sarc i your post? ..... cuz if not ...... you may be the only person on here that did not know about Ayers ....

309 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:23:53am

re: #280 ploome hineni

229 Scion9

if your daughter associates with prostitutes will you not come to any conclusion about her values and behavior?

depends upon if I am client #9 or not.

310 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:24:02am

re: #2 RaiderDan

Meanwhile, Obama supporters parade around in "Sarah Palin is a C***" t-shirts and all we hear about is how McCain-Palin is the second-coming of George Wallace.

Liberal Media = Double Standards

Liberal Media = Shameless Democrat Shills

311 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:24:02am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a whole family of Darlings. Played bluegrass music, had a sister Darlene....lived in Mayberry.

LOL! Most people called the one I knew "Wendy, darling"

312 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:24:25am

re: #301 realwest

UH, my friend - PLEASE be careful about saying WHERE the meet up is gonna be - when I was in NYC, the last meet-up before I came to one was publized out here and some crazy mofo's came to just cause a disturbance.
Just saying, ya know?!

Really? I don't think that would happen in Atlanta, but if it did, I would assume the ones causing the disturbance would be the ones getting thrown out. I'm probably being pretty naive here.

313 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:24:40am

re: #307 DeafDog

Ron Darling used to pitch for the mets.

Met him at the last game at Shea, talked to him before he headed back to the SNY booth before the game... Really nice guy, very smart and down to Earth.

314 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:24:49am

re: #304 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Cheers.

315 Desert Dog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:25:09am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a whole family of Darlings. Played bluegrass music, had a sister Darlene....lived in Mayberry.

I do believe it is Darlene Darling-Bass now, after she married Ernest T Bass

316 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:25:18am

re: #272 hermeneutics

Nice!

My college-age daughter has a black roomie who is voting for McCain. She's afraid to tell her parents! So funny.

I think the next generation of AAs will not be as racialist as those in the past. My hope.

My experience with racism began at an early age, during the early sixties there was segregation everywhere in the south. Separate water fountains and bathrooms for the races, and many of the finer stores and restaurants with signs saying "no Negro's allowed" My parents did their best to put their prejudice aside. The real breakthrough was when at 5 years old, my father brought in a black contractor for some work on the house, and he brought his son who was my age. We spent the day playing with each other and I realized their was no difference between us except our skin color. The Navy reinforced the principal as I now roomed with them. No finer friends and great in a fight!

317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:25:21am

re: #305 Jinx

I've wondered (since hearing of Ayers) if he would have been more satisfied (thinking he had done enough and all) had he been the one who bombed the Murrah building.

318 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:25:27am

oops I updinged 231 thats supposed to be down

319 Florida Lady  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:25:34am

re: #293 MJBrutus

I predict he'll be given a committee chairmanship.

If he makes it through the election, he'll get that chairmanship.

That's a big "IF" though. This is generally a pretty solid GOP district, notwithstanding the loons on the East Coast. The only reason Mahoney won last time is because they couldn't replace Mark Foley's name on the ballot with Joe Negron - the new GOP candidate for that seat - so people had to either vote for Mahoney or Foley.

As I recall, Mahoney narrowly won the seat by about 2 percentage points.

320 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:25:44am

re: #66 LittleGreenFavre

What? You don't like black? Maybe you're a raaacist!

/race card -off

great nic...lol

321 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:26:24am
322 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:26:26am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Had anyone here heard of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers prior to Palin being chosen for veep candidate? Ayers would not be an issue if it weren't for her mean spirited racism, bigotry and bulldog attitude.

Did you forget the sarc tag?

Seriously.

323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:26:35am

re: #231 Eowyn2

You simply forgot your sarc tag. Correct?

324 Dave the.....  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:26:44am

We have a tape of Obama telling a hard working plumber that he is going to raise the plumbers taxes so he can "spread the wealth around". McCain probaly won't use this. He is turning into Bob Dole.

325 alien_mind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:26:46am

it is startling how things have changed in the media. there is as much lunacy and partisanship by journalists as there is anywhere else. thoughts like this are published now that are easily laughable on its face. so few even make any effort to report on reality, and instead just type up any old half-baked partisan idea that pops into their feeble minds. their masks have not only slipped a little, they have completely fallen off their faces.

326 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:01am

re: #306 reine.de.tout

Has anyone answered this?
This is your LGF registration number.
Everybody sees their own but not anyone else's.

Mine is cycling, like a countdown ... 9 ... 8 ... 7 ... 6 ... 5 ...

Should I be worried?

327 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:02am

re: #304 pre-Boomer Marine brat

However ... you ARE part of what keeps this from becoming an echo chamber.

*lifting coffee cup in a toast*

Good morning, pBMB.

328 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:06am

re: #312 doppelganglander

And another thing -- if we confined it to email, what's to stop an agitator from emailing one of us, posing as a lizard to get the meet-up information? "Hi, I'm just a lurker, can't get registered, can I still come?" I'm not going to worry about it.

329 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:09am

re: #313 tfc3rid

Met him at the last game at Shea, talked to him before he headed back to the SNY booth before the game... Really nice guy, very smart and down to Earth.

Did he tell you, "You don't have to call me Darling, Darling."

330 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:16am

re: #318 bulwrk

oops I updinged 231 thats supposed to be down

You can fix it -- Charles added that feature a few weeks ago.

331 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:23am

re: #324 Dave the.....

We have a tape of Obama telling a hard working plumber that he is going to raise the plumbers taxes so he can "spread the wealth around". McCain probaly won't use this. He is turning into Bob Dole.

He already mentioned it in his speech today ....

332 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:25am

re: #305 Jinx

Didn't Hillary bring up the Obama Ayers connection during the primaries?

333 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:27am

re: #179 Killgore Trout

When I click my avatar I see I have an ID# but I don't see ID numbers on anyone else's. What's up with that?

I cant see your id but I can see mine.

334 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:40am

re: #300 doppelganglander

I wonder how many people there are like your daughter's roommate. If there's going to be a Bradley effect anywhere, it could be in black voters lying to pollsters because they're afraid to admit they're for McCain.

Forgive my butting in but I'm not entirely certain that a Bradley effect among black voters would have a huge impact.
Blacks in the US - 40 million
# of black voters in 2004 election - 14 million
% of votes attributed to Bradley effect - I'd guess about 10%
Number of votes for McCain - 1.4 million.
On second thought, that number's not that small.

335 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:27:57am

re: #305 Jinx

I've been blogging about Obama's ties to Ayers since April and noted even then about the media's refusal to delve into that association in any serious manner. Nothing has changed since.

336 willowone  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:28:02am

re: #301 realwest

hope it didn't end up like this..Morales was dining at Chili's in St. Lucie West and was talking loudly about his support for Barack Obama
Police say a McCain supporter dining at the next booth asked him too keep it down, and, then, the two began arguing about politics from separate booths in the restaurant.

"Apparantly the comment was I hate Obama, and from there the person stood up walked over to him and shoved his head into the wall
[Link: www.wflxfox29.com...]

337 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:28:03am

re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've wondered (since hearing of Ayers) if he would have been more satisfied (thinking he had done enough and all) had he been the one who bombed the Murrah building.

He probably wet himself when he found out that it wasn't one of his Revolutionary ideological allies that had become the most infamous and deadly domestic terrorist in US history, but one of the acursed "Imperialists".

338 Equable  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:28:15am

re: #291 laZardo

I had a classmate in kindergarten named Peter Pan.

/no srsly!

Far out man. I wonder how much that poor kid got ribbed...

339 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:28:37am
340 MJBrutus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:28:40am

re: #332 redstateredneck

She did, but she was in no position to push the issue the way she should have. Hubby pardoned several Weathermen on his way out of office.

341 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:29:11am

re: #329 DeafDog

Did he tell you, "You don't have to call me Darling, Darling."

Did he mind standing in the rain?

342 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:29:21am

re: #324 Dave the.....

It really feels like the GOP is conceding a term in order to position a viable candidate for 2012. They simply don't understand the Marxists only have to win once.

343 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:29:40am

re: #333 Eowyn2

I think it's a wise move to keep those numbers private. The Koskidz have a hierarchy based on who has the lower ID numbers (because they've been around longer).

344 Dave the.....  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:29:47am
re: #324 Dave the.....

We have a tape of Obama telling a hard working plumber that he is going to raise the plumbers taxes so he can "spread the wealth around". McCain probaly won't use this. He is turning into Bob Dole.

He already mentioned it in his speech today ....

After posting that, I scanned up and saw it. Good for McCain!

345 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:29:55am

re: #341 SurferDoc

Did he mind standing in the rain?

No, but he was drunk the day his mother got out of prison.

346 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:10am

re: #343 Killgore Trout

I think it's a wise move to keep those numbers private. The Koskidz have a hierarchy based on who has the lower ID numbers (because they've been around longer).

Equality!

347 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:20am

Killgore has lizard ID# 666?

//

348 jwb7605  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:26am

re: #231 Eowyn2

Had anyone here heard of Obama's ties to Bill Ayers prior to Palin being chosen for veep candidate? Ayers would not be an issue if it weren't for her mean spirited racism, bigotry and bulldog attitude.

I have a powerful mouse.
I downdinged, and the "-1" changed to "-10" with but a single power click.

FYI: I heard of his ties long before McCain ever selected Palin for VP. Also ACORN.

349 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:35am

re: #181 LoFlyer
Kindly check your e-mail my friend.

350 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:35am

re: #347 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Heh.

351 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:55am

re: #345 DeafDog

No, but he was drunk the day his mother got out of prison.

I'll have that in my head all day, now. Not a bad song for that.

352 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:30:55am

re: #301 realwest

UH, my friend - PLEASE be careful about saying WHERE the meet up is gonna be - when I was in NYC, the last meet-up before I came to one was publized out here and some crazy mofo's came to just cause a disturbance.
Just saying, ya know?!

Haar Mate! Bring 'em on! What 'me worry? Manual's tavern has a great history of public debate and the folks are civilized. We really enjoyed last weeks meet, and I have no doubt if we get into an altercation, the Manny's employees would back us 100 percent!

353 razorbacker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:05am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I knew a whole family of Darlings. Played bluegrass music, had a sister Darlene....lived in Mayberry.

Technically, FBV, you didn't. You knew a family named Dillard. If one is interested they are still playing.

Over in Branson, of course.

354 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:06am

re: #344 Dave the.....

After posting that, I scanned up and saw it. Good for McCain!

Good to hear. If I know one thing about our country, it's that plenty of people still hate commies. Keep hammering it, John.

355 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:24am

re: #318 bulwrk

oops I updinged 231 thats supposed to be down

Go back and click the down-button.
They're reversable now.

356 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:25am

re: #332 redstateredneck

Didn't Hillary bring up the Obama Ayers connection during the primaries?

yes. in the debates no less. I heard the tape the other day on Rush or Steve Malzberg's show.

357 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:30am

re: #343 Killgore Trout

I think it's a wise move to keep those numbers private. The Koskidz have a hierarchy based on who has the lower ID numbers (because they've been around longer).

'Number of comments' seems to serve the same function in this neck of the woods.

358 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:35am

re: #342 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It really feels like the GOP is conceding a term in order to position a viable candidate for 2012. They simply don't understand the Marxists only have to win once.

The 2010 election is looking like 1994.

I can see Newt stepping back onto the stage with a brand new Contract with America.

359 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:31:58am

re: #327 jorline

Good morning, pBMB.

Good morning there!

360 joncelli  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:32:03am

Dow at 9433.01, up 45.40. If the Dow can break 10,000 tomorrow, McCain might win the debate.

/Wishful thinking...

361 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:32:06am

re: #334 bosforus

Forgive my butting in but I'm not entirely certain that a Bradley effect among black voters would have a huge impact.
Blacks in the US - 40 million
# of black voters in 2004 election - 14 million
% of votes attributed to Bradley effect - I'd guess about 10%
Number of votes for McCain - 1.4 million.
On second thought, that number's not that small.

You are very welcome to butt in -- this is hardly a private conversation. Of course there's no way to tell, before or after the election, whether there's a Bradley effect among black voters. But if we see McCain do better than expected in virtually all-black precincts, that could be the explanation.

362 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:32:28am

re: #343 Killgore Trout

I think it's a wise move to keep those numbers private. The Koskidz have a hierarchy based on who has the lower ID numbers (because they've been around longer).

What? Kosland has a seniority system? Oh, that's right, they are all out of work AFSCME members.

363 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:32:53am

re: #357 bosforus

Yeah, it does a little bit but it's not too bad. Nobody really obsesses over it the way they do at Dkos.

364 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:01am

re: #358 DeafDog

The 2010 election is looking like 1994.

I can see Newt stepping back onto the stage with a brand new Contract with America.

Thing is, the 'new' Newt is all about Greening and the Environment... He's changed...

365 Scion9  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:06am

re: #343 Killgore Trout

I think it's a wise move to keep those numbers private. The Koskidz have a hierarchy based on who has the lower ID numbers (because they've been around longer).

You can see other poster's registration date...

366 jwb7605  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:09am

re: #351 SurferDoc

I'll have that in my head all day, now. Not a bad song for that.

But I have some errands to run in my pickup truck,
and you all will have to wait for me again.

367 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:11am

re: #202 tfc3rid
Yep. I agree completely and he's GOT TO START HAMMERIN' OBAMA ON OBAMA'S SPREAD THE WEALTH SHIT TOO.

368 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:31am

re: #330 Fat Jolly Penguin

really how?

369 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:33am

re: #339 taxfreekiller

Dear MSM,

Ye of the Washington Post, New York Times etal, you do not want to deal with the true far right, your best bet is to deal with McCain, should the real far right you fear get any power, your press lies and fraud will have its ass in the shit can.

Not that even I, tfk am of the far right, hell do not think any of the "far right even post here on lgf's", the real deal far right, FEAR THAT is correct, but you dam fools John McCain is within your own circle, hell he would be your best bet to slide some liberal shit by us with, we will never allow Obama any of his looney shit, but McCain and the RINO's now they could just slip it by while we are not looking close enough.

like that MSM, McCain is Republican "lite" that is why you buddied up with him prior.

Great post, mate! I take back some of the rude comments I made to you years ago!

370 SummerSong  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:33:52am

I was working in the shopping center in Laurel, Maryland the day Wallace was shot. Quite the circus.

371 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:12am

re: #316 LoFlyer

Truman desegregated the Armed Forces a decade before the Civil Rights Act...

372 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:22am

re: #357 bosforus

'Number of comments' seems to serve the same function in this neck of the woods.

indeed it does! ;)

373 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:23am

re: #364 tfc3rid

Thing is, the 'new' Newt is all about Greening and the Environment... He's changed...

I hate that fricken commercial where he and Nancy are sitting on the sofa together.

374 runrabbitrun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:27am

re: #237 scottishbuzzsaw

Where did our beloved strength and individualism go?

In an election campaign, our individualism and independent strength can be used against us by the left, which is collectivist and activist by nature.... they have an innate advantage in any contest involving group-think and hive activity.

Sometimes I think that the only way that the right would be motivated to Revolution is if Acorn leaders dragged us out of our homes and demanded that we forfeit them to members of the victim group of their choice, while continuing to pay the mortgage.

375 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:27am

re: #304 pre-Boomer Marine brat

However ... you ARE part of what keeps this from becoming an echo chamber.

*lifting coffee cup in a toast*

I bet there are more independents at lgf than republicans. I'm from the progressive state of Minnesota which is a blue state. I'm independent as are a growing number of voters.

376 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:44am

re: #349 realwest

Kindly check your e-mail my friend.

Tomorrow, my email is out till I get back to work. Thanks, mate!

377 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:34:56am

I think people who consider this year a lost cause or think that they should regroup for 2012 are mistaken and misguided.

There is no such thing as a lost election. If you do not stand up for what you believe now, why vote for that same cause in 2012? This election isn't over until the last votes are counted, and there's still time for your vote to make a difference and for Obama to be shown as the emperor who has no clothes (but who likes taking your money and giving it to others in a massive redistribution of wealth by governmental fiat).

People need to understand that you have to draw the line at what Obama stands for, and acquiescence to this now is a defeatist attitude that only further enables Obama to carry the day and devote his resources to furthering his leftist agenda to an ever greater extent.

378 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:06am

re: #364 tfc3rid

Thing is, the 'new' Newt is all about Greening and the Environment... He's changed...

Not entirely - newt's also been behind the drill here, drill now campaign.

After two years of Barry, Nancy & Harry, there will be a target rich environment of conservative proposals.

379 SteveC  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:16am

I've never been to a meet-up! If I can make it to the Tavern, how can I tell the Lizards from the regular folks?

Move, Countermove: TODAY show* had tape of Obama speaking with a 19 year old Nursing School graduate who has $20,000+ in college loans. He gave her a hug and told her it would all be ok.

* Don't go there; no matter how many times I *SHOW* her how slanted they are, Momma loves Meredith and Co. Living at home ain't always what it's cracked up to be.

380 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:36am

re: #362 unreconstructed rebel

What? Kosland has a seniority system? Oh, that's right, they are all out of work AFSCME members.

sure. some communists are more equal than others. (animal farm).

381 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:47am

re: #366 jwb7605

But I have some errands to run in my pickup truck,
and you all will have to wait for me again.

I'll be Jeepin' outa here in a minute, myself.

/Stay Frosty

382 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:49am

re: #219 Dustoff-507
Hey my friend, how are ya?
"Instead of reaching acrossthe isle to shake their hand, why don't you smack it them instead! )-:" Fixed it for ya!

383 ointmentfly  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:56am

Ends justifies the means here. All the press is trying to do is get enough of a lead in the polls so that McCain voters will stay home. Simple as that. This is the white guilt election of 2008 as declared by the press with their complete ignorance of anything Obama other that getting him elected.

384 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:35:57am

re: #367 realwest


I sure wish he would buddy. But it better be quick!

385 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:36:09am

re: #364 tfc3rid

Thing is, the 'new' Newt is all about Greening and the Environment... He's changed...

he's been "newtered"

386 Dustoff-507  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:36:44am

re: #382 realwest


I like that too. (-:

I'm doing good, how about you

387 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:36:48am

re: #368 bulwrk

really how?

If you click the + button by mistake, go back and click the minus button and your ding changes from plus to minus.

Once you give a ding, you can't go back to zero. You can change it from plus to minus, or minus to plus.

388 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:36:48am

re: #368 bulwrk

really how?

Just go back and click on the other ding button (the colored one).

389 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:37:09am

re: #374 runrabbitrun

.... they have an innate advantage in any contest involving group-think and hive activity.

Oh, for a dose of Colony Collapse Disorder.

390 razorbacker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:37:31am

From Theo Spark's place...

Back in 1990, the Government seized the Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada for tax evasion and, as required by law, tried to run it. They failed and it closed.

Now we are trusting the economy of our country to a pack of nit-wits who couldn't make money running a whore house and selling booze.

And from Maggie's Farm...

This is worse than a friggin' divorce. I've lost half my net worth and still have my wife.

Mike Cuccurillo at Lehman/Barclays

And now I'm going to put my wife into the car. The leaves are starting to change here in the hills, and I'm driving her over to highway 7 to leaf-look.

It's made her happy in the past, and I have hopes that it'll make her happy again.

Y'all have the best day possible, given what you have to work with.

391 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:37:34am

re: #231 Eowyn2
Y'all forgot the sarc tag - or you're out of your mind.

392 Dave_Da_Kid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:37:35am

The more they scream the more you know you're doing the right thing. Hit 'em again Mac and keep on swinging until they're down and out.

393 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:37:52am

re: #379 SteveC

I've never been to a meet-up! If I can make it to the Tavern, how can I tell the Lizards from the regular folks?

We'll be the most attractive, sophisticated, intelligent people there! Seriously, shoot me an email and we'll keep you posted. LoFlyer plans his outfit in advance and he'll let you know what it is.

394 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:38:17am

That's how you usher in an extreme left-winger. By calling everyone to your right "extremist". Even a center of the road - reach across the isle Joe Lieberman supported - John McCain.

395 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:38:18am

re: #371 laZardo

Truman desegregated the Armed Forces a decade before the Civil Rights Act...

Yep, the military led the way in civil rights, and their hard work, like that of the Republicans has been unrecognized in the civil rights arena. I find it amusing that John Lewis compares McCain, a Republican to the well known Democrat (socialist) Wallace.

396 SteveC  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:38:36am

re: #193 realwest

Personally I think McCain is rocking - and has been for the last two days - cause of all the Southern Air he's been inhaling!

Southern Air will do a man good! :)

*Ahem*
Southern Born and Southern Bred,
I eat Southern Corn and Southern Bread;
Cut me open, I'll bleed Southern Red,
and when I die, I'll be Southern Dead!

397 MJBrutus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:39:15am

re: #388 Fat Jolly Penguin

Please don't use the word, "colored." I hear that it is offensive.

/sarc

398 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:39:34am

re: #248 Killgore Trout
Hey Killgore - you are the only one who can see what numbered registrant you are. NO on else can and you can't view theirs, either!

399 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:39:55am

Study: Big 3 networks still fixated on 'first love' Obama

Oh brother...

The study revealed a rare and potentially laudable trend at NBC, ABC and CBS, which could benefit voters as Election Day looms. Stories on all three networks were more attuned to real "substance" and issues, rather than the political horse race, tactics and strategy.

Thirty-six percent of the coverage was substantive, compared with 31 percent that focused on the horse race.

"In the past six elections, this is the only second time that 'substance' has outpaced the horse race among broadcasters," Mr. Lichter said.

"Reporters and correspondents are systematically monitoring campaign ads - which are based around very specific issues. The press ends up vetting the ads, and consequently vetting the issues. We're no longer getting surface portrayals of 'Mr. Change' and 'Mr. Maverick' ," he added.

400 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:40:26am

This is how elections are won. If the liberal media (who wouldn't know what was good for them if it painted itself purple and danced around singing: "Common Sense Does the Body Good") reported that Candidate X was effectively useless and had no problems with infanticide, then not many people would vote for him. The trouble is Candidate X is really useless and doesn't have a problem with infanticide. It can all be forgotten by making Candidate Y and his well-dressed running mate look awful by calling them racists and c----. It may not be classy or true but it works.

401 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:41:12am

re: #379 SteveC

Move, Countermove: TODAY show* had tape of Obama speaking with a 19 year old Nursing School graduate who has $20,000+ in college loans. He gave her a hug and told her it would all be ok.

* Don't go there; no matter how many times I *SHOW* her how slanted they are, Momma loves Meredith and Co. Living at home ain't always what it's cracked up to be.

/We don't need to teach our children about dept, and paying it off. No no - big daddy government will sweep in and save you from any of that responsibility stuff.
Just tax the productive to pay for this girls loan. *hugs*

402 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:41:18am

re: #375 twincitiesgirl

I bet there are more independents at lgf than republicans. I'm from the progressive state of Minnesota which is a blue state. I'm independent as are a growing number of voters.

There are alllllllllll sorts here, and we're stronger for it.

(NOT meant to sound patronizing) ... part of becoming an adult is learning to bite one's tongue and let someone else talk. There are times when I stay off a thread, or another. My comments would not be ... shall we say ... helpful.

It all comes out in the wash.

403 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:41:54am

I already voted absentee. Mailed it in just now. POTUS was easy, all those CA Propositions were the head scratchers.

404 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:41:55am

Joseph Goebbels, though he be squatting on the coals of Hell, must be grinnin' like a fool just now.

405 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:42:13am

re: #268 Killgore Trout No, I haven't forgotten that you're a contrarian - how could I?! - but it's rare indeed that you say something even remotely decent about Republicans.

406 ointmentfly  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:42:27am

re: #400 Joan Not of Arc

This is how elections are won. If the liberal media (who wouldn't know what was good for them if it painted itself purple and danced around singing: "Common Sense Does the Body Good") reported that Candidate X was effectively useless and had no problems with infanticide, then not many people would vote for him. The trouble is Candidate X is really useless and doesn't have a problem with infanticide. It can all be forgotten by making Candidate Y and his well-dressed running mate look awful by calling them racists and c----. It may not be classy or true but it works.

If you have not already, check this out -

407 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:42:32am

re: #388 Fat Jolly Penguin

cool,thanks

408 maddogg  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:42:48am

re: #404 unreconstructed rebel

Joseph Goebbels, though he be squatting on the coals of Hell, must be grinnin' like a fool just now.

He's expecting some company.

409 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:42:54am

re: #387 reine.de.tout

thanks

410 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:43:31am

re: #395 LoFlyer

And here I was thinking they were all equal because they were brainwashed drones of the government, not being able to lead the lives respective to the cultures they hail from.

////////////////

411 kynna  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:43:47am

Dionne is a dunderhead. His columns are worthless. I used to think he was a woman since he was so feministically shrill. Maybe he is. Whatever. An idjit's an idjit no matter what's between the legs. ;D

412 LoFlyer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:44:07am

Mates, It's time for 'me to break off this engagement, and it has been very productive! Got 'me email forwarding fixed, and got several lizards interested in the ATL meet. Thanks, guys. DGL, you are a true shipmate!

413 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:44:25am

re: #390 razorbacker

From Theo Spark's place...

And now I'm going to put my wife into the car. The leaves are starting to change here in the hills, and I'm driving her over to highway 7 to leaf-look.

It's made her happy in the past, and I have hopes that it'll make her happy again.

Y'all have the best day possible, given what you have to work with.

You in Newton County?

414 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:44:33am

This election is not so much about McCain winning as it is about communism losing. Get the vote out like your life depended on it!

415 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:44:46am

re: #388 Fat Jolly Penguin

Just go back and click on the other ding button (the colored African-American one).

Just like the rioters youts in Paris.

416 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:44:47am

re: #404 unreconstructed rebel

Joseph Goebbels, though he be squatting on the coals of Hell, must be grinnin' like a fool just now.

I always think of the 6 daughters of his that he killed when they all committed suicide. they look so angelic in all the photos you see....

to your point, the irony here is a "state run media". well, with the way our MSM is, if 0-Bomber wins, he'll already have the equivalent of a state-run media in place!

417 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:45:00am
418 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:45:23am

re: #402 pre-Boomer Marine brat

No you don't sound patronizing at all and your point about choosing which threads to participate in is something I learned the hard way. LGF is one of the finest blogs out there because we are diverse and that's what makes it interesting.

/always enjoy your comments

419 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:45:44am

"Aisle" - not Isle.

oops.

420 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:46:00am

re: #299 jaunte
Hey juante - I HOPE you're right, but I fear too many Americans now want a Nanny State, cause they can't stand the idea of personal resonsibility.

421 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:46:09am

re: #411 kynna

Dionne is a dunderhead. His columns are worthless. I used to think he was a woman since he was so feministically shrill. Maybe he is. Whatever. An idjit's an idjit no matter what's between the legs. ;D

Or what color it is!

422 razorbacker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:46:19am

re: #413 Outrider

You in Newton County?

I will be later this afternoon. We live in Booger Madison County.

423 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:46:51am

re: #417 ploome hineni

test

I see you.

424 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:47:02am

re: #418 twincitiesgirl

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

425 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:47:29am

re: #363 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it does a little bit but it's not too bad. Nobody really obsesses over it the way they do at Dkos.

I'm unfamiliar with the nuances of the dKos, other than the not so nuancical fact that they're all pricks.

426 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:47:30am
427 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:47:50am
428 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:47:54am

re: #424 laZardo

seriously? I think you are way off on that one.

429 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:47:56am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

true. I have no color at all, as I am clear & transparent.

/

430 krycek  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:48:04am

re: #345 DeafDog

No, but he was drunk the day his mother got out of prison.

It's certainly not Obama who's saying "you never even called me by my name". [the H****** word]

431 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:48:13am

re: #417 ploome hineni

test

uh oh, ploome's doubting herself again

432 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:48:44am
433 reags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:48:47am

A reasonable overview of the contents of Obama's clown (not the happy fun clown-type, but the demented kind you find in horror movies) car of friends, associates, supporters...
[Link: www.familysecuritymatters.org...]

434 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:48:54am

re: #417 ploome hineni

test

did you pass?

435 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:49:24am

re: #422 razorbacker

I will be later this afternoon. We live in Booger Madison County.

Cool. I have family over to Judy (Mt Judea) and some in Jasper. You be careful on 7. ;-)>

436 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:49:30am

re: #422 razorbacker

I will be later this afternoon. We live in Booger Madison County.

Ride up to my property off of MC8001 and enjoy my view since I can't.

437 looking closely  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:49:38am

Another bombshell from Stanley Kurtz over at the NRO:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]


Wright 101
Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism

By Stanley Kurtz

It looks like Jeremiah Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. Not only did Barack Obama savor Wright’s sermons, Obama gave legitimacy — and a whole lot of money — to education programs built around the same extremist anti-American ideology preached by Reverend Wright. And guess what? Bill Ayers is still palling around with the same bitterly anti-American Afrocentric ideologues that he and Obama were promoting a decade ago. All this is revealed by a bit of digging, combined with a careful study of documents from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the education foundation Obama and Ayers jointly led in the late 1990s.

438 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:49:39am

re: #428 twincitiesgirl

I actually got a 'tag' from an "acsoundwave" on my art site, implying she was a Lizard too. Followed the trail to the blog and noticed:

IRL: Afrimerican: an "African American/not Hispanic" person. I really hate labeling myself like a crayon, but it's needed for the census.

/hmm...

439 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:49:55am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

The saddest thing being when someone mentions diversity now, the first thing that pops into mind is race. What about young and old, man and women, self taught and college educated, civilian and military? For all this talk about celebrating diversity, all its done is segregate us based on race again.

440 maddogg  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:50:01am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

Nope. I'm black and tan. Didn't you see my portrait?

441 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:50:25am

re: #418 twincitiesgirl

/always enjoy your comments

I enjoy them too

/TRIED TO RESIST ... I REALLY DID TRY!

442 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:50:40am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

I don't know, and that's another one of the great things about LGF. People don't make a big point about their race or ethnic group. I'm not criticizing you for mentioning it, by any means -- it's nice to know a personal tidbit or two about the people you're chatting with, if they choose to share. It just doesn't color our opinion of the person -- pardon the pun.

443 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:50:45am

re: #420 realwest

Hey juante - I HOPE you're right, but I fear too many Americans now want a Nanny State, cause they can't stand the idea of personal resonsibility.

I sadly agree with you on this as well... I see it big time in my generation that people expect the government to solve all of your problems...

444 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:50:45am

re: #432 ploome hineni

so, you work for the msm?

445 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:52:25am

re: #312 doppelganglander
"I'm probably being pretty naive here."
Probably - at the second meetup which I organized, we only gave out the location via e-mail (I spent HOURS on the phone confirming people) and we had some 35-40 Lizards with their families and children in tow (and yes we drank and talked politics) which made me feel good that lizards felt safe enough to bring their children to the meet-up. Only problem was I didn't plan carefully enough so we had tables pushed against tables etc. - but I got to meet some GREAT NYC lizards, including Nekama himself (of Nekamas Troll Hammer) - a great, great guy, extremely smart and tough.
But the KosKidz, DU'ers and other couldn't spoil that one cause they didn't know where it was and YES, those hours I spent turned up more than half a dozen phony lizards. Hopefully Atlanta will be more civilized.

446 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:52:30am

re: #442 doppelganglander

Ah well...if you think the 'race' bit gets me tense...I don't know what was going through my mind when I decided to admit what I put in my description.

/click the avatar...

447 CommonCents  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:52:44am

re: #35 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

George Soros, economic terrorist

Unfortunately I can only upding that once. Perhaps Charles could supply the voting machines in Ohio.

448 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:52:56am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

We're all green here.
:-)

449 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:52:56am

Hey Charles - you need to add two new categories to your spin-off links.
"Insane crazy" & "Economics".

:-)
seriously.

450 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:53:05am

re: #439 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Where I went to school as a 90s kid, that stuff was standard doctrine.

451 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:53:05am

re: #438 laZardo

I actually got a 'tag' from an "acsoundwave" on my art site, implying she was a Lizard too. Followed the trail to the blog and noticed:

IRL: Afrimerican: an "African American/not Hispanic" person. I really hate labeling myself like a crayon, but it's needed for the census.

/hmm...

You know to tell the truth I never really gave it much thought.

452 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:53:10am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

I am really tan.

453 tappin52  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:53:12am

re: #307 DeafDog

Ron Darling used to pitch for the mets.

He had the dreamiest eyes.

454 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:53:36am
455 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:53:58am

re: #451 twincitiesgirl

S'okay, perhaps we're not really supposed to. >_>

/uncertainty!

456 runrabbitrun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:54:14am

re: #414 Kreuzueber Halbmond

This election is not so much about McCain winning as it is about communism losing. Get the vote out like your life depended on it!

TOTALLY agree about the vote, but even if McCain wins, we must remember that the contest between socialism and capitalism will not be over for us conservatives - we'll still have our work cut out for us, grassroots style, to keep the damage from Johnny's bi-partisan, reach-across-the-aisle initiatives under control - especially with a fully-loaded Dem congress.

457 Outrider  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:54:14am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

Hadn't really thought about it. Some folks have said they are Jewish, but I can't recall the subject coming up.

458 thedude  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:54:25am

now a word from Jesse Jackson
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

459 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:54:28am
460 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:54:47am

re: #449 FrogMarch

Hey Charles - you need to add two new categories to your spin-off links.
"Insane crazy" & "Economics".

:-)
seriously.

I also suggest "Downward Spiral" and "Hell in a Handbasket".

461 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:54:50am

When you read a post like the one above, do you only post at LGF? Or do you post at the site of the story? If you have an opinion, please take the time to put it up over there.

462 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:55:23am

re: #427 taxfreekiller

Republicans
Democrats
MSM

Institutionalized subterfuge. We pay gladly and learn badly.

463 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:55:29am

re: #455 laZardo

I see no reason to

464 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:55:49am

re: #450 laZardo

Where I went to school as a 90s kid, that stuff was standard doctrine.

Its why I despise the education system.

465 thedude  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:56:10am

oops...sorry about the repost of this link..did not see the previous comment about such

466 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:56:12am

re: #458 thedude

now a word from Jesse Jackson
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

I thought he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off.

467 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:56:16am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

It's never mattered here.

468 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:56:28am

re: #437 looking closely

wow! let's hope it's put to good use. take the gloves off johnnie mac!

469 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:56:39am

re: #343 Killgore Trout
"The Koskidz have a hierarchy..." Really? Whatever for?

470 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:56:47am

re: #440 maddogg

Nope. I'm black and tan. Didn't you see my portrait?

Jorline, the Irish restaurateur, will be around to rip out your heart with his bare hands

471 razorbacker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:57:01am

re: #436 redstateredneck

Ride up to my property off of MC8001 and enjoy my view since I can't.

That's neat. I seem to be less than 10 miles due south of you, assuming you're slightly northwest of Hindsville.

472 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:57:09am

re: #458 thedude

Spinoffs...

473 Perry  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:57:16am

re: #464 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Zackly. (My current soapbox)

474 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:57:29am

re: #446 laZardo

Ah well...if you think the 'race' bit gets me tense...I don't know what was going through my mind when I decided to admit what I put in my description.

/click the avatar...

That's all cool. If I had to guess, I'd have to say the reason you're not a Kos Kiddie is because you see yourself as an individual who thinks for himself. Which makes you completely welcome here.

475 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:01am

re: #456 runrabbitrun

TOTALLY agree about the vote, but even if McCain wins, we must remember that the contest between socialism and capitalism will not be over for us conservatives - we'll still have our work cut out for us, grassroots style, to keep the damage from Johnny's bi-partisan, reach-across-the-aisle initiatives under control - especially with a fully-loaded Dem congress.

Doin' right ain't got no end.

476 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:11am
477 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:18am

re: #461 Eric Cartman's Conscience

When you read a post like the one above, do you only post at LGF? Or do you post at the site of the story? If you have an opinion, please take the time to put it up over there.

There is also a school of thought that says - Posting over there only encourages them.

478 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:19am

re: #424 laZardo

Diverse? I'm probably going to get mobbed for this but I suspect I'm the only person of color here...

/hopes, REALLY HOPES suspicions are misguided...

Oi!
Are ye sayin' pale pink is not a colour, then?
(She says, rolling up her sleeves in a martial fashion ...)

;-)

479 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:23am

re: #471 razorbacker

That's neat. I seem to be less than 10 miles due south of you, assuming you're slightly northwest of Hindsville.

I'm in Marion County about 15 minutes from Yellville.

480 RTLM  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:38am

re: #458 thedude

now a word from Jesse Jackson
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

"Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

"Obama is about change," Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. "And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it."

Jackson is the typical Jew hating, America hating Obama supporter.

If you hate America and or Israel, Obama is your guy.

481 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:58:45am

re: #474 doppelganglander

Individualism is something I've been regretting and seriously reconsidering lately, but I sincerely thank you guys for being around.

482 razorbacker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:59:35am

re: #435 Outrider

Cool. I have family over to Judy (Mt Judea) and some in Jasper. You be careful on 7. ;-)>

I'll be through both Judy and Deer this afternoon. Prolly stop at the Deer store for a cold sody.

Okay, she's off the phone with DJ, so we know where we'll have supper.

BB(much)L

483 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:59:46am

re: #460 bosforus

I also suggest "Downward Spiral" and "Hell in a Handbasket".

yes &..
"Socialism here we come" & "Liberal Fascism"

484 Perry  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:59:57am

re: #474 doppelganglander

That's all cool. If I had to guess, I'd have to say the reason you're not a Kos Kiddie is because you see yourself as an individual who thinks for himself. Which makes you completely welcome here.

And probably rather unwelcome there, LaZardo.
We like stripes with polka dots too.

485 Ezekiel2517  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:00:21am

If you want to know who someone is, look at those with whom they choose to associate themselves. It's a time-honored principle in law enforcement and it works.

486 unclassifiable  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:01:12am

A pretty clueless article full of nothing.

Here is one of Dionne's point:

Obama should not be delegitimized if he wins, and McCain should not want to win in a way that would undermine his own capacity to lead.

And here is what my mind was thinking when I read it:

Obama should not be delegitimized if he wins, and McCain should not want to win in a way that would undermine his own capacity to lead.

The real howler was the exclusive tying of the right to fascism and Antisemitism. Clearly Dionne's receiver is tuned only to the DNC and the Obama campaign -- but this is not even surprising anymore.

487 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:01:16am

Lunch break is over. Y'all take care & keep the faith.

488 redmirabai  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:01:22am

When I was in trouble as a kid, my last defense was the offensive: "But he did it, too! I saw him!" My parents didn't fall for this.
We should be supporting CNN's Drew Griffiths for actually investigating accusations, and looking at the evidence, not what BHO's supporters want to direct our eyes to. Perhaps CNN is beginning to see where the wind blows---following the Obamaton line is turning a lot of people against MSM, who would at one time have been satisfied to get their "facts" spoon-fed to them. Why leave the field to Fox?

489 laZardo  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:01:23am

I gotta head to bed now. 1 AM and my eyelids are collapsing.

I leave you with evidence of the ever-encroaching conspiracy. [=

/g'night!

490 razorbacker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:01:30am

re: #479 redstateredneck

I'm in Marion County about 15 minutes from Yellville.

I took the MC8001 to be Madison, not Marion. The old joke about assume has proven itself again.

Bye y'all.

491 runrabbitrun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:00am

re: #437 looking closely

Another bombshell from Stanley Kurtz over at the NRO:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

This should also be brought up at the debate. Even a couple of sentences with supporting evidence would help:

"However he may seek to deny it, all evidence points to the fact that, from his position as board chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama knowingly and persistently funded an educational project that shared the extremist and anti-American philosophy of Jeremiah Wright."

"We know that Obama did read the proposals. Annenberg documents show him commenting on proposal quality."

"Yet Obama and his very small and divided board kept the money flowing to ideologically extremist groups like the South Shore African Village Collaborative, instead of organizations focused on traditional educational achievement."

492 tappin52  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:07am

Just for the record, I resent the factor of race being shoved in our faces incessantly this election cycle. I considered this a non-issue until I heard the Rev. Wright's sermons, which completely floored me. When I learned of Black Liberation Theology (thank you LGF & other internet sites), I realized that I was pretty ignorant to this issue. I really thought we had passed this divide..............sigh.

493 alien_mind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:08am

damn! I just heard a McCain sound clip from todays speech. its awesome!
he's sticking with the big finishing theme, "don't give up", "stand up and fight for justice", "fight for your children", and on and on and the crowd goes wild. its very strong and motivating. I hope he sticks with that for his close. its really uplifting and reassuring.

also he hit Obama for the "spread the wealth around" line that he used on the small businessman. that one line can be devastating if he keeps recounting it, its one of the most antiAmerican, anti capitalist themes themes that you will ever hear a candidate for president say. He MUST use it tomorrow. a great contrast line if used properly.

494 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:16am

Obama's rescue plan [UPDATED]

The plan is a striking sign of how far this crisis has moved, and a sign that Obama has shifted toward a more populist approach. In February, after Hillary Clinton proposed a similar foreclosure moratorium, the Los Angeles Times reported that Obama condemned her plan:

In San Antonio on Tuesday, Obama said that Clinton’s foreclosure freeze was potentially “disastrous,” rewarding “people who made this problem worse” by benefiting banks that profit from high mortgage rates.

UPDATE: Obama's aides say that though he called her plan, on the whole, "disastrous," his objection wasn't to the foreclosure moratorium but to an interest rate freeze she had proposed, and which isn't part of Obama's plan.

The full transcript is here, and makes clear that the passage I linked above isn't quite clear: He's attacking Clinton's proposal "that we freeze the monthly rate on existing adjustable rate mortgages for at least five years."

495 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:21am

re: #371 laZardo
You're correct but the first US military to be completely desegrated was the one that served in Vietnam. Learned an awful lot of things - most of them good - from living with others of different backgrounds, race, ethnicity and the like.

496 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:25am

It's amazing:

Global warming is BS.
Obama is friends with terrorists and sat in a church lead by a racist.
This economic crap is the direct result of liberal and socialistic policies.
Top economists and CEO's fear an Obama presidency.
And the race is this close.
And everything is still George Bush's fault.

497 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:02:58am

re: #386 Dustoff-507
I'm doing ok, thanks.

498 bosforus  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:03:08am

re: #496 bellamags

Racist!

499 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:03:09am

re: #485 Ezekiel2517

If you want to know who someone is, look at those with whom they choose to associate themselves. It's a time-honored principle in law enforcement and it works.

amen.

500 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:03:26am

re: #481 laZardo

Individualism is something I've been regretting and seriously reconsidering lately, but I sincerely thank you guys for being around.

Don't ever regret being individualistic. It probably gets lonely, especially in a university environment, but it's important to be true to yourself.

/motherly advice; my oldest daughter is about your age.

501 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:03:48am

re: #481 laZardo

Individualism is something I've been regretting and seriously reconsidering lately, but I sincerely thank you guys for being around.

We learn and we grow.
Keep yourself in situations where you can.
You're welcome in this room.

/gray-headed old fud shuts his trap

502 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:04:16am

Feeling confident in the American election system?

This year alone ACORN has registered 1,315,037 voters.

Holy crap - check out the map.

503 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:04:44am
504 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:06:20am

re: #323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

and SpinyNorm

I cant make a dripping sarcasm tag.
/.........
but that looks more like a sarcasm spray.

505 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:06:21am

re: #396 SteveC See
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

506 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:07:07am
507 metalhead  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:07:58am

Is he farkin' kidding? Can he be that stooooopid? We can only HOPE that McCain Changed and has become a conservative, but I doubt it.

508 bellamags  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:08:06am

re: #502 FrogMarch


How about this comment from that site?

You conservatives want to have your cake and eat it too. You wanted us of the Left to stop bombing, terrorizing and committing acts of revolutionary rage and participate in the institutions of democracy. Now that we put aside our kidnappings, molotovs, and urine bags to participate in the democratic process, you still complain.

I think hope they forgot the sarc tag.

509 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:08:08am

re: #502 FrogMarch

Feeling confident in the American election system?

This year alone ACORN has registered 1,315,037 voters.

Holy crap - check out the map.

shnargley's comment from PJM -- I LOVE IT! -- ROFLMAO!

510 Sizzlack  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:08:27am

I cannot believe that this country is on the verge of handing over the keys to the White House to the moonbat enablers. Obama is right when he says this country is heading in the wrong direction. That direction being his.

511 anubis_soundwave  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:09:48am

re: #438 laZardo

I actually got a 'tag' from an "acsoundwave" on my art site, implying she was a Lizard too. Followed the trail to the blog and noticed:


/hmm...

Yep; that was me. I'm also a Deviant.

As an "afrimerican", I know we can do better than Obama. I know we can.

My brother, unfortunately, drank the bad Kool-aid some time ago....

512 SteveC  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:09:57am

re: #502 FrogMarch

Feeling confident in the American election system?

This year alone ACORN has registered 1,315,037 voters.

Holy crap - check out the map.

Your map is giving my forehead perspiration and my bum heart palpitations, and it's causing a lot of EXASPERATION!

513 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:09:57am

Obama and ACORN

In an earlier post on the origins of the subprime mortgage fiasco, I noted that ACORN had harassed banks into making subprime loans to minorities. I also noted allegations that Barack Obama had trained members of ACORN to do just that. To check on those allegations, I went to Obama's "fight the smears" web site (here) noted that (at the time) it said this:

Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.

I then described my reaction:

I read his web page as attempting to create the impression that he was not associated with ACORN by claiming that he never worked "for" ACORN. But did he work with them to advance their cause? His web site does not say. I wonder what he would say, if asked?


Today, McCain released a new advertisement accusing Obama of training members of ACORN to harass banks. This surprised me, so I went back to Obama's "fight the smears" web site. The "fact" quoted above has been changed and now reads:

Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.

This interesting change reinforces my view that Obama is using his lack of formal employment with ACORN to create the impression that he did not train members of ACORN to do things like badger banks to make subprime loans to minorities. Someone needs to ask him if he ever did that.

More slippery business at Obama.org

514 abolitionist  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:10:35am

ACORN COVER UP: Barack Obama’s Political Family Tree Is Red
October 12, 2008

Why would Barack Obama lie about his association with ACORN? Let’s see….Once upon a time there was a group called the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA), and they formed Students For A Democratic Society (SDS). CPUSA and SDS spawned the Weather Underground and The Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). That group was later renamed The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).

ACORN was conceived and devoted to the purpose of applying the Cloward-Piven strategy of collapsing the American system from within.

Obama's mentors:
Mommy, (daddy?), maternal Grandma, maternal Grandpa, Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, and of course, WAB. Anyone notice a pattern here? Have any of them ever said anything about America being good?

Note: "Free as a bird, guilty as hell..." and "For the first time in my adult lifetime..." don't count.

515 J.S.  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:11:39am

re: #454 FrogMarch

Don't worry...they refuse to believe it and will be voting for Obama. It simply doesn't matter what Obama says, pals around with, or does...It does not matter...If Obama were to say, "i despise the state of Israel and hope the Iranians nuke it" the number of "Jews" voting for Obama in the United States would rise exponentially...That's just the sorry reality. (yeah, and I canceled my subscription to the National Post, I refuse to support or hand over money to newspapers shilling for Hussein Obama.)

516 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:11:51am

re: #502 FrogMarch

Gosh, do you think it's a coincidence ACORN has targeted all the battleground states?

517 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:11:53am

re: #506 ploome hineni

no-I am self emloyed

what makes you think that?

You posted someone else's comments with my name attached.

518 redmirabai  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:12:21am

re: #37 tfc3rid

Well said.

519 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:13:54am

re: #424 laZardo
Do y'all measure diversity of opinion based on skin color?
Y'all might want to talk to LGFer Black George Bush about that.

520 krycek  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:15:45am

Would it be too much to ask for all voter registration to be done in person and only at the county or parish registrar's office and eliminate all of these corrupt voter registration organizations?

521 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:16:37am

re: #511 anubis_soundwave

Yep; that was me. I'm also a Deviant.

As an "afrimerican", I know we can do better than Obama. I know we can.

My brother, unfortunately, drank the bad Kool-aid some time ago....

I guess "welcome" isn't really appropriate, but I do hope you post more frequently in the future.

522 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:23:41am

re: #511 anubis_soundwave

Yep; that was me. I'm also a Deviant.

As an "afrimerican", I know we can do better than Obama. I know we can.

My brother, unfortunately, drank the bad Kool-aid some time ago....


Mine drank it, too. Has nothing to do with being "afrimerican".

523 realwest  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:24:39am

re: #521 doppelganglander
Please see my #445 above.

524 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:26:44am

re: #520 krycek

Would it be too much to ask for all voter registration to be done in
person and only at the county or parish registrar's office and
eliminate all of these corrupt voter registration organizations?

Separation of church & State!
/

525 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:29:56am

re: #524 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Separation of church & State!
/

Parish the thought!

526 alegrias  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:31:36am

Meanwhile, Biden's favorite NATO leader, SPain's Zapatero, plans to visit the Castro Brothers--because the Bush White House won't welcome terrorist supporting politicians!

& Spain is bringing loot to the Castro Brothers, plus is "forgiving" over 1,000 million Euros in debt.

España ofrece 24,5 millones de euros para reestructurar la deuda del país
Zapatero acepta la invitación de Raúl Castro para visitar Cuba en 2009


[Link: www.larazon.es...]

527 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:34:04am

re: #526 alegrias

Meanwhile, Biden's favorite NATO leader, SPain's Zapatero, plans to
visit the Castro Brothers--because the Bush White House won't welcome
terrorist supporting politicians!

& Spain is bringing loot to the Castro Brothers, plus is "forgiving" over 1,000 million Euros in debt.

España ofrece 24,5 millones de euros para reestructurar la deuda del país
Zapatero acepta la invitación de Raúl Castro para visitar Cuba en 2009


[Link: www.larazon.es...]

Is Cuba ever going to pay reparations for their imperialism in Africa in the 1970s & 80s? [crickets chirping]

528 Infernodogget  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:35:22am

There are no coincidences when it comes to ACORN.

529 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:40:29am

re: #406 ointmentfly

Talk about stupidity! They are bombarded everywhere with this election and they don't know what their candidate stands for?

530 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:47:55am

Far Right McCain. uh-huh.
In a sane world, McCain would be the Democratic candidate. He's a liberal minus most of their policies that directly contradict human nature.

531 thriggle  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:49:36am
When his running mate, Sarah Palin, first brought up Obama’s association with 1960s radical Bill Ayers, who has become a centerpiece of McCain’s attacks, she accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Well, Mrs. Ayers for one. Until this election, she was more well known as a "terrorist" than her husband.

532 hhc 2-2 scr  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:05:39am

Most of the time I just lurk. I'm usually stuck reading dead threads, not that thats a bad thing, I have learned a lot from this site and the links that everyone provides. Besides by the time I do get to it my opinions been voiced many times over and I think, whats the sense of preaching to the choir.
This ACORN thing has just disgusted me. They have taken one of the things held in great honor in America and turned it into something that is now suspect.

533 big L  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:19:36am

Bring up the bomber...for a topic that is so discounted by the Obamas, it sure gets a lot of coverage from them
So "Remember the Bomber"!

Also notice that obama has no friends, anyone notice that?
With Gov Palin they interviewed her friends. Where are Obama's friends? Other than Seditious ones or pastor -crackpots he has none...that is scary. No friends in a life time of moving...

534 POTUS  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:47:23am
she accused Obama of “palling around with terrorists.” What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

I wonder what the magic number would be before they were actually a little concerned..?

535 Clio  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:48:13am

re: #96 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Make reference to Richard II's young male (?, oh really?!) courtiers.

Sorry, it's incredibly obscure, but that's precisely what popped to mind.

He can Dispenser with him and his Piers.

536 Clio  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:49:41am

re: #535 Clio

He can Dispenser with him and his Piers.

Ooops.

That was Edward II not Richard II.

537 Occam's Beard  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:57:09am
What other "terrorists" was she thinking about?

Bernadine Dohrn, genius.

538 insomniac  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:39:36pm
.......Obama was a child when Ayers was part of the Weather Underground

Yes Obama was a child when Bill Ayer's Weather Underground terrorist group was formed and declared war on the US government.......but Obama was an adult when The Weather Underground murdered three men in the Brinks robbery in 1981.

539 nyc redneck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 12:49:44pm

how abt. mccain is a reach across the aisle republican who has enough sense to see that we can't open the door to these commies who are the real extremists.

540 the_flying_pig  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:08:39pm

OMG. If Obama wins the White House, we may kiss free speech goodbye and the country's no longer free. All thanks to backward retards like E.J. Dionne writing that trash piece.

541 warlord  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:17:33pm

How much longer before you folk realize that we are at war.

These media folks have been bought and sold.
I do not know if there are any foreign agents but some of them must be.
They are glad to do the bidding of our enemies.


I have to give more respect to countries like serbia and even the arab populace. When people try to take them over they fight back.

I have never seen a more defeatist atitude from a populace.
OH my we are doomed if Obama gets in, we are if you don't fight back!

So let me get this straight. He can steal the election and the largest armed populace rolls over and accepts it.

Ever heard of the civil war. or Do you now want to be the slaves.

There will never be a free election after this one if we lose. Think there is fraud now.
In 2012 Obama will win with 100% of the vote.


Fight or Die but don't surrender.

THe Declaration of Independence mandates we remove treasonous and tyrannical people. Does any one here understand that? If so and we have the courage, so what if he steals it.
FORCE!

We take it back and institute new and better reforms.


Or are you all AFRAID?

542 Mark1957  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:35:29pm

E. J. Dionne's "column" is the op-ed equivalent of him handing Obama a tube of K-Y and seductively cooing, "Why don't you shove your red-hot man-meat into my throbbing pink round-eye?"

E. J. Dionne: my nominee for "Journalistic Prison Bitch of the Year."

543 abolitionist  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 2:40:24pm
What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Possibly one of these... er... champions of social justice?

Khalid al-Mansour: the anti-Semite Black Nationalist racist who changed his name from Don Marshall and converted to Islam, was a patron of Obama’s and helped advance Obama’s candidacy to law school. He was instrumental in starting the violent Black Panthers group ...
[snip]

Rashid Khalidi: an enthusiastic supporter of the Palestinians, fervent critic of Israel (which he calls a destructive “racist” state), an admirer of suicide bombers and a driving force behind the Arab American Action Network (AAAN). This so-called pro-Palestinian “community organization” in Chicago is another beneficiary of the Obama-Ayers team at the Woods Fund. It promotes an agenda that would horrify Obama’s Jewish supporters and any normal person. In fact, both Sen. Obama and Mr. Ayers actually spoke at a testimonial dinner for Rashid Khalidi.

According to Jack Kelly in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, “ ‘Khalidi and Obama lived in nearby faculty residential zones and the two families dined together a number of times,’ a source on the University of Chicago faculty told WorldNet Daily. ‘The Obamas even babysat the Khalidi children.’ ”
[snip]

Frank Marshall Davis: another of Obama's mentors mentioned in his book, a well-known Stalinist Communist whose devotion to the Soviet Union and hatred for an America which he described as racist and imperialistic put him under FBI surveillance for at least 19 years. It is quite possible that Davis did more to shape Obama’s world view than many in his entourage.
[snip]

Ref: Exclusive: Forget Bill Ayers - Here Are Over a Dozen More Virulently Anti-American Obama Friends

I think this part worthy of emphasis:

As an article in FrontPageMag.com reported, “And why is it that black racists such as al-Mansour constitute a significant proportion of these hate mongers? In large part, it is because blacks have been specifically and aggressively targeted for recruitment by leaders of the worldwide jihad, just as they were targeted for recruitment by the Communist Party USA in the 1920s. Black grievance, combined with the evangelism of the Nation of Islam over the last seventy years, has established an audience for the ideology of hate.”
544 Maui Girl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 3:17:18pm

What other “terrorists” was she thinking about?

Ayers' wifey, Bernie?

545 Ron Shaw  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 3:31:42pm

Let me see if I have this right...liberals do not believe terrorists exist except if they are wearing US Military unforms or are Israeli; therefore, Ayers and Dohrn cannot be terrorists, unrepentent or otherwise, because terrorists do not exist except those who serve in the US Armed Forces or are citizens of Israel. This further means to liberals that anyone other than a liberal must be a racist and more than likely a terrorphobe, aka, a Republican or conservative.

I guess I have to vote for Barrack now, eh? L&CMAO

546 pittrader1988  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 4:13:50pm

Liberals are far more afraid of Fascism than Communism.
They try to paint anyone that does not agree with them as Fascist.

547 grahamski  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:48:23pm

Far right?....Hardly

548 George guy  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:26:45pm

re: #546 pittrader1988

Liberals are far more afraid of Fascism than Communism.
They try to paint anyone that does not agree with them as Fascist.

And yet let them think for a few days that they're winning and they start drafting plans for the re-education camps.

549 rednaxela  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:33:08pm

Re: Use of the plural.

Which part about palling around with Bernardine Dohrn, the terrorist who made the FBI's 10 most wanted, does this asswipe not understand?

550 eaglewingz08  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:48am

Gee, that quote from Dionne, about xenophobic right wing zealots, where did I hear that before, oh yeah
Obama's talk to San Fran radicals, about those bitter Bible clinging cousin marrying, gun toting, xenophobic working class people clinging to guns and God.
We know which side of the culture war Dionne is on.
Funny how he can't find a single example of rage and insanity on the left, I mean, how hard could that be? Would Dionne then say that Obama was a far left extremist due to these outbreaks of 'hate' and rage' against McCain and Palin?
Yes, and the Yankees will win this year's World Series.

551 mac  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 10:50:36am

and O.J. is innocent

Brave New World

I think Aldous Huxley and Ayn Rand sort of predicted all this.


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