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Sowell: The Real Obama

Opinion | Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:32:06 pm PDT

Thomas Sowell says it all:

Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom some serious money changed hands.

Some gave political support, and some gave financial support, to Obama’s election campaigns, and Obama in turn contributed either his own money or the taxpayers’ money to some of them. That is a familiar political alliance— but an alliance is not just an “association” from being at the same place at the same time.

Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America. No amount of flags on his campaign platforms this election year can change that.

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1 DesertSage  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:33:52pm

We're in for a rough 4 years.

:(

2 AndyMacOP  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:34:16pm

Will anyone listen to this from the left?

3 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:34:19pm

Good points. Sen Obama prefers the likes of Ayers over Mr. Rogers.

4 Jimmah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:34:30pm

This Sowell guy some sort of racist?

5 Geepers  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:34:33pm

Racist.

6 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:35:05pm
Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America.

And now he's promising to meet unconditionally with more people who hate America. If I didn't know any better, I'd say there was a pattern here.

7 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:36:29pm

The most important thing they shared was an agenda. And they still do.

8 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:36:29pm

re: #1 DesertSage

We're in for a rough 4 years.

:(

Yeah, McCain is no Ronald Reagan, and he'll inherit a shaky economy and a lot of other threats, but at least we'll be able to look forward to President Palin!

9 rabidfox  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:36:42pm

We are sooo in trouble - not just the 0bama but also Congress.

10 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:36:47pm

re: #1 DesertSage

WTF? He's not going to win.

11 Frumious Bandersnoop  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:37:03pm

No one from the far left will listen.

Probably the "undecided" and "independents" won't listen either. Most of them don't see Mr. Sowell's articles or anything else from the right because they only watch/read the drive-bye media.

We are definitely in for a rough patch. I only hope it will only be four years.

Frum

12 J'accuzzi  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:37:11pm

Thomas Sowell, a truly great man.

13 CIA Reject  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:37:42pm

re: #1 DesertSage

We're in for a rough 4 years.

:(

Any legal lizards out there willing to post some good asset hiding strategies?

I'm afraid we may need them

14 itellu3times  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:37:45pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

And now he's promising to meet unconditionally with more people who hate America. If I didn't know any better, I'd say there was a pattern here.

It's racist to say black people have patterns.

Heck, it's worse than that, it's non-progressive, anti-empirical, right wing, prejudiced, close-minded, reactionary, maybe even Alaskan.

15 Frumious Bandersnoop  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:38:02pm

Thomas Sowell is a professor of economics, a prolific writer - and he is African American.

16 AndyMacOP  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:38:03pm

His "spreading the wealth around" comment should scare us all to death. Hate America, love socialism. There is still time... but is there a will to beat this madness?

17 Magalaga Ding Dong  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:38:20pm

We need to find & capitalize on our remaining sanity. These cold, hard, indisputable facts must be hammered til the end. We are living in an almost lost nation that doesn't realize what it will lose.
God bless this country.
/and help us

18 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:38:23pm

If you couple this with everything else, Obama's associations not only show his lack of judgment in his associations, it shows his true demeanor, theology, ideology and every other "ology" there is. He is a FAR LEFT MARXIST, prone to ANTI-AMERICAN tendencies.

This has to be reported on besides the blogosphere!

19 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:38:46pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

WTF? He's not going to win.

You got that right Sharm!

Look at this::

ZOGBY WEDNESDAY: OBAMA 48.2%, MCCAIN 44.4%... NOT SURE 7.4%... DEVELOPING...

RASMUSSEN: OBAMA 50% MCCAIN 45%...
-------------------------------------------------- -------------------via Drudge


DO not I repeat DO NOT let that bogus CBS/NYT poll get anyone down.
That is what it is designed to do!

20 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:38:58pm

re: #4 Jimmah

Obviously!

21 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:39:27pm

re: #4 Jimmah

This Sowell guy some sort of racist?

He has to be being a conservative, acting all white and all.
/////////

22 Archimedes  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:39:56pm

Exactamungo ... good to see a pundit say it like it is. Scratch that, Sowell is better than a pundit, he's a real intellectual. Something that is rare in this day and age.

23 Quilly Mammoth  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:39:57pm

Aside from the mobster these people hate America as she is today. The America they dream of is your worst PC nightmare...on crack. They truly believe that they have to restrict some of your rights to make things better for all.

Of course, it never really does turn out to be better when you restrict rights.; it only gets worse.

24 Perplexed  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:40:11pm

The imaginary (n)Obama is the real (n)Obama.

25 abu_garcia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:40:17pm

Why can't we have Sowell as the first black president. I guess he's not "black" enough.

26 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:40:40pm

Email I sent to the GOP:

I think that plumber that got Obama to admit that he wants to "spread the wealth around" is spot on!

How about an ad with him and maybe a few other small business owners?
Maybe some women business owners, like me, too!
Show American's who is really going to get hit by Obama's tax increase.

I think that most Americans think that it is the "brie eating" crowd who will be hit the hardest.

My husband and I own a concrete flat work company. We install driveways, basement floors, garages etc.
He leaves at 5 am and doesn't get home until usually around 8 pm. He works in hundred degree heat during the summer.
On our "days off" we work our farm, build fence and work cattle.
We don't wear suits, we wear t-shirts, jeans and work boots.

We routinely work 15 hour days either in our concrete flatwork business or on our farm.
Why should we be punished for working towards and earning the American dream?

This would be a powerful ad in my opinion.

27 Perplexed  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:40:40pm

(-Obama)^.5

28 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:40:41pm

re: #19 Typicalwhitey

Did you see the post Hillbuzz is keeping at the top of their page?

The comments are great too.

29 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:40:52pm

Color me shocked! Zogby and Rasmussen have the race tightening up, within a few points, Obama up bout 4 at the most. CBS News/New York Times has Obama up 14!

30 Frumious Bandersnoop  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:41:02pm

#17 - Magalaga:

Capitalize is part of Capitalism - thus a dirty word, even if it is more than four letters

Shame on you!

Frum

31 CIA Reject  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:41:07pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

WTF? He's not going to win.

I pray G*d that you are correct, but the media is out in full force trying to discourage McCain supporters and suppress the McCain vote.

32 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:41:12pm

Someone on here made a great point (Mama Winger? probably!) that all of Barry's associations fall into one of three categories - Terrorists, Radicals (Muslim and otherwise) or dead. Her question was why is that? Why no one normal that he walked to school with or something? That is what we need to start asking repeatedly.

33 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:41:42pm

When you are on the team and down 3 points, runs, goals, in the last quarter you don't walk off the field. You play harder.

34 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:41:53pm

If you know Sowell''s history, he used to be a socialist when he was young. He knows what these people are all about.

35 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:41:58pm

re: #2 AndyMacOP

No. Don't expect anyone from the center to listen either. Wright and Ayers connections fall on deaf ears.

36 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:42:24pm

re: #25 abu_garcia

Why can't we have Sowell as the first black president. I guess he's not "black" enough.

He has stated he wouldn't like being a pol.

37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:42:34pm

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

If you know Sowell''s history, he used to be a socialist when he was young. He knows what these people are all about.

jwf- I dinged down one of your links by mistake. Sorry, dude.

38 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:42:56pm

Teach your children well.........
Stanley Ann Dunham taught her son well.

He's never strayed far from the red diaper

39 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:42:58pm
Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America. No amount of flags on his campaign platforms this election year can change that.

Just as John Kerry could not cover up his 1970's anti-military "Genghis Khan" tirade.

I believe Bush won the last election only thanks to the work of the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth. Unfortunately, in 2008 we have no corresponding group.

That does not bode well.

40 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:42:58pm

re: #31 CIA Reject

I pray G*d that you are correct, but the media is out in full force trying to discourage McCain supporters and suppress the McCain vote.

Well, then. We should probably give the media what they want, right?

Some of you may want to change your avatars.

41 JacksonTn[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:43:06pm
42 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:43:15pm

re: #26 Typicalwhitey

Is it ok that I eat brie? I really, really like it. Its my comfort food - brie on buttered french bread under the broiler. So, so bad for me but so good. This is what I ate growing up for breakfast. Does this make me....*gasp* one of them?

43 FloridaAnole  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:43:20pm

Well, let's see - we've only got a crazed priest bellowing in fake Ebonics, a Commie Anarchist bomber and his fork-loving spouse, an America-hating preacher, and a financial ripoff artist; no wonder the average voter isn't worried; looks like we've got a lot of Alfred E. Neumanns answering the polls.

44 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:43:35pm

re: #37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

jwf- I dinged down one of your links by mistake. Sorry, dude.

You can go back and fix it! Charles did that for us!

45 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:44:03pm

It's the Judgement, Stupid.
There's McCain's talking point for tomorrow night.... and a damn good bumper sticker, come to think of it.

46 solomonpanting  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:44:13pm

Why much of the public and the media have been so mesmerized by the words and the image of Obama, and so little interested in learning about the factual reality, was perhaps best explained by an official of the Democratic Party: "People don't come to Obama for what he's done, they come because of what they hope he can be."

She: "I just know I can change him."

47 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:44:17pm

re: #37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

jwf- I dinged down one of your links by mistake. Sorry, dude.

I believe you can unding things nowadays.

48 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:44:40pm

re: #1 DesertSage

We're in for a rough 4 years.

:(

Perhaps conservatives should learn how to protest and subvert.

49 Cicero05  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:45:07pm

Isn't Tom Sowell considered a traitor to his race? Him, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Walter Williams, Michael Steele -- they're all badly in need of compulsory re-education.

50 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:45:17pm

re: #44 jcm

You can go back and fix it! Charles did that for us!

Doesn't seem to work for the links.

51 Thanos  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:45:21pm

"Allies" is the most definitive word, and Sowell is right to use it instead of associates.

52 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:45:26pm

re: #29 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

CBS News/New York Times has Obama up 14!

Among "likely Democrats!"

53 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:01pm

re: #47 JammieWearingFool

I believe you can unding things nowadays.

I thought so to, but it doesn't seem to work for the links.

54 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:02pm

re: #46 solomonpanting

There are quite a few parallels between an Obama believe and someone in an abusive relationship, come to think of it.

55 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:13pm

This is a great piece. Thanks for posting it

56 LC HOGHEAD  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:20pm

A John McCain campaign ad you'll never see
This stuff is on the table for free, GOP.

"What Might Have Been" campaign spot
[montage of authentic prom night photos circa 1970, ideally with young men in uniform, or someone flipping through an album of same.]

NARRATOR
One night in March, 1970, hundreds of young servicemen and their dates gathered for a dance at Fort Dix.

[one by one the photos are lit in a corner, curl up and burn. If home movies are used, employ oozing burn effect of a hot projector bulb.]

NARRATOR
A terrorist group planned to set off a pipe bomb at that dance.
A second bomb full of nails was set to go off minutes later, to kill and maim rescuers.
Had they succeeded, it might have killed more people than the Oaklahoma City Bombing.
Killed more young men than John Wayne Gacy.
Killed more young women than Ted Bundy.

[photos of Oklahoma, Gacy (with Jimmy Carter's wife) and Bundy]

NARRATOR
The plan to bomb the Fort Dix dance failed.

But the group killed and maimed others, in their self-declared War on America.

The leader of the group that planned those bombings was never punished.
He never apologized for his crimes.
He still says his only regret was that he didn't kill more innocent people.

Instead he reinvented himself as a teacher, an author, a pillar of his community.

The kind of man who helps choose future leaders.

The leader of the group that planned to kill hundreds of young soldiers and their dates at Fort Dix in 1970 helped launch Barack Obama's political career.

On November 4, Bill Ayers, an unrepentant criminal,
will vote for Barack Obama as President of the United States.

What about you?

h/t Five Feet of Fury

57 CIA Reject  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:35pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Well, then. We should probably give the media what they want, right?

That's not my point. My point is that there are a significant number of mush-headed idiots in this country who will vote for whoever the MSM tells them to vote for and the MSM is telling them to vote for BO.

/Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

58 NYCHardhat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:40pm

re: #31 CIA Reject

All the more reason to get out and vote. Talk to people, show them the way. Most people I know just don't know because of how insane the media has gotten. It really is a scary time for all of us.

59 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:41pm

re: #50 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Doesn't seem to work for the links.

Ahhhhh!

60 ciaospirit  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:42pm

If we don't do something, these are the Obama youth "leaders" of tomorrow. I shot this video of Obamatrons outside the McCain/Palin rally in Bexley, OH a couple of weeks ago. Why exactly are they protesting? They do know that Bush isn't running for President, don't they? They do know that McCain isn't President, right? I guess they're protesting that someone has the audacity to run against Obama.

61 Frumious Bandersnoop  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:42pm

#52 erisldysnomia:

And 105% of Democrats will be voting.

62 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:46:48pm

re: #31 CIA Reject

I pray G*d that you are correct, but the media is out in full force trying to discourage McCain supporters and suppress the McCain vote.

Dan Rather I think in the first Bush win called Florida for Gore before the polls had closed in the Florida panhandle. The effort was strong then also. The polls were slanted. People were puzzled why the polls were anti Bush but he still won. Exit polls were wrong also. It's the Dem playbook, lie, cheat, and steal in an election then come out and call out the Republicans for the same. It's a way to lose an election for the Dems and come out ahead morally. IF they win then great.

63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:00pm

re: #52 erisldysnomia

CBS News/New York Times has Obama up 14!

Among "likely Democrats!"

I was going to say among their employees, but no way it would be that close!

64 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:11pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Well, then. We should probably give the media what they want, right?

Some of you may want to change your avatars.

LOL!

65 daledog  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:14pm

Lizards,
How many times have we watched our favorite sports team not muster enough energy to secure victory when we, on the couch, knew they had the ability to mount a comeback?

I just donated some money to the McCain campaign, and I made some phone calls on his behalf. I went to McCain's website and created an account for myself. I then volunteered to make calls. The website provides you will the numbers and the script. You have to provide the phone. I'm sitting in Chicago making calls to Wisconsin and Ohio. I have never done this before, and I was nervous. However, the stakes are too big. I got over my nervousness and I engaged in some good conversations. I think I may have persuaded one person out of the 20 I called. That person was in Ohio.

Doing something instead of waiting for something to happen will make you at least feel better. I suggest that everyone give it a try.

66 FloridaAnole  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:20pm

re: #52 erisldysnomia

CBS News/New York Times has Obama up 14!

Among "likely Democrats!"

WTH is a Likely Democrat? I mean, as opposed to some unlikely ones, like Christopher Buckley.

67 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:36pm

re: #52 erisldysnomia

Anyone else think we may be getting an oversample of ACORN signees?
Either that, or some other group of nuts.

68 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:37pm

re: #56 LC HOGHEAD

EXCELLENT!

69 Frumious Bandersnoop  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:49pm

#57 CIA Reject:

Amen!

70 SagamoreGal  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:53pm

I love Thomas Sowell! I may one of the few members of the Theodore Roosevelt Association who does but when I'm out in Oyster Bay next w/end for the annual TR Association w/end, I just may take along a collection of Sowell's writings and post them around key places.

(Sowell is not a fan of TR and there have been snide comments made by some TR members about Sowell but they cannot deny the fact that TR did have some serious Socialist genes in his body between 1912-1916. He didn't die a Socialist, thank God.)

71 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:47:56pm

re: #60 ciaospirit

If we don't do something, these are the Obama youth "leaders" of tomorrow. I shot this video of Obamatrons outside the McCain/Palin rally in Bexley, OH a couple of weeks ago. Why exactly are they protesting? They do know that Bush isn't running for President, don't they? They do know that McCain isn't President, right? I guess they're protesting that someone has the audacity to run against Obama.

I think selecting Gov Palin as the VP candidate is what the Dems call egregious negative campaigning by Sen McCain.

72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:48:17pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Well, then. We should probably give the media what they want, right?

Some of you may want to change your avatars.

I like my avatar! ; )

73 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:48:36pm

re: #42 ArmyWife

Is it ok that I eat brie? I really, really like it. Its my comfort food - brie on buttered french bread under the broiler. So, so bad for me but so good. This is what I ate growing up for breakfast. Does this make me....*gasp* one of them?

Hey! I left you reply on the last thread...
Totally misunderstanding

74 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:48:40pm

re: #56 LC HOGHEAD

On November 4, Bill Ayers, an unrepentant criminal and the person who spearheaded Obama's entry into politics will vote for Barack Obama as President of the United States.

What about you?

Wh ynot hang out at your local polling place with this as a poster and handout?

75 Cicero05  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:49:14pm

Has Mickey Mouse officially endorsed a candidate yet? ACORN registered him to vote in several states.

76 Jimmah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:49:23pm

From what I've seen, Obama has been good at letting everyone he needed to help him along the way think he's their man.

77 solomonpanting  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:49:28pm

re: #54 tradewind

There are quite a few parallels between an Obama believe and someone in an abusive relationship, come to think of it.

We haven't been abused yet, but there's always HOPE.

78 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:16pm

re: #62 hazzyday

Dan Rather I think in the first Bush win called Florida for Gore before the polls had closed in the Florida panhandle.

He had no choice!

He hadn't fabricated the Bush TANG documents yet!

79 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:16pm

re: #56 LC HOGHEAD

Yep, that is a very good image to send out.

80 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:23pm

Well done, Mr. Sowell!

81 lazlohollyfeld  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:23pm

I think most people understand this quite easily. It does matter who you associate and work with and we know it's irratating the Obama campaign. It's just that the lapdogs in the media won't let these stories gain any traction (of course the economic problems and McCain's contradictions on this haven't helped).

82 Archimedes  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:31pm

re: #37 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

jwf- I dinged down one of your links by mistake. Sorry, dude.

I thought Charles programmed a ding correctability feature in the software. If you ding down, you can ding up after.

83 sngnsgt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:36pm

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Great avatar, I like the one I found a little while ago...

84 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:50:51pm

re: #57 CIA Reject

And there are large numbers of people who are sick of the msm, realize they're being lied to by the msm, and are not going to vote for 0bama.

The ratings for the networks are down, even in an election year. The readership of the print msm is down- they're slowly going bankrupt.

We have 5-7 million PUMAs- hillary supporters, and you better believe they vote. We have ACORN registrations getting tossed out, and people are concerned about this issue.

This is no time to panic! If you want to be depressed by the msm bullshit- knock yourself out, but don't expect the rest of us are going to want to hear it.

85 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:51:06pm

re: #74 erisldysnomia

Wh ynot hang out at your local polling place with this as a poster and handout?

Sunday paper insertion. I think it's illegal here to do that within 200 feet of the polling place.

86 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:51:26pm

re: #65 daledog

Lizards,
How many times have we watched our favorite sports team not muster enough energy to secure victory when we, on the couch, knew they had the ability to mount a comeback?

I just donated some money to the McCain campaign, and I made some phone calls on his behalf. I went to McCain's website and created an account for myself. I then volunteered to make calls. The website provides you will the numbers and the script. You have to provide the phone. I'm sitting in Chicago making calls to Wisconsin and Ohio. I have never done this before, and I was nervous. However, the stakes are too big. I got over my nervousness and I engaged in some good conversations. I think I may have persuaded one person out of the 20 I called. That person was in Ohio.

Doing something instead of waiting for something to happen will make you at least feel better. I suggest that everyone give it a try.

You ROCK!

87 Luigi  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:52:09pm

O'Reilly and his two blond buddies just did Acorn to inform the American people about it. They covered Acorn's sources of funding, but at no time did they state that Barack Obama gave Acorn $800,000.

The word "fraud" did not come up to my recollection.

The general thrust of the report is that Acorn tries to enfranchise poor people but they're just not too careful about things. One comes away from the report without having any specific complaint against Acorn.

88 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:52:21pm

I just realized why my post got deleted ..... sorry Charles ..... I did not take out the telephone numbers ..... can I still ask without the personal information?

89 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:52:39pm

re: #66 FloridaAnole

Start with the welfare rolls, then head for any campus' faculty lounge. That's your low hanging fruit for likely demo demographics.

90 Paul  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:52:48pm

If Obama is elected, we're going to have to fight to preserve our rights, our freedoms, our bank accounts and perhaps our physical safety. By "fight" I mean political, cultural and intellectual struggle---hopefully no more than that.

91 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:53:00pm

re: #36 hazzyday

He has stated he wouldn't like being a pol.

Herein lies a huge part of our problem.

George Washington didn't really want to be President either. But he did it anyway.

92 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:53:27pm

re: #83 sngnsgt

Great avatar, I like the one I found a little while ago...

LOL! Now that's a place where I could hang out!

93 Archimedes  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:53:34pm

re: #65 daledog

Lizards,
How many times have we watched our favorite sports team not muster enough energy to secure victory when we, on the couch, knew they had the ability to mount a comeback?

I just donated some money to the McCain campaign, and I made some phone calls on his behalf. I went to McCain's website and created an account for myself. I then volunteered to make calls. The website provides you will the numbers and the script. You have to provide the phone. I'm sitting in Chicago making calls to Wisconsin and Ohio. I have never done this before, and I was nervous. However, the stakes are too big. I got over my nervousness and I engaged in some good conversations. I think I may have persuaded one person out of the 20 I called. That person was in Ohio.

Doing something instead of waiting for something to happen will make you at least feel better. I suggest that everyone give it a try.

Another positive note, today I received the first positive McCain ad. A phone call relating how McCain was concerned with fixing the financial problem, while Obama did little, and then spent most of his time in a Hollywood fundraiser.

94 Cicero05  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:53:56pm

re: #88 JacksonTn

Smited!

95 NYCHardhat  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:54:02pm

re: #90 Paul

Obama will not be president. I am not going to stop saying this. I am not wishing. He will not be POTUS.

96 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:54:03pm

I was just wondering ..... because on their website now it says they were created in 2000 but that is not true they were created in 1996. With the coming out party at Ayers house .....

97 sngnsgt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:54:37pm

re: #92 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL! Now that's a place where I could hang out!

:cheers:

98 Oldasdirt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:54:58pm

re: #80 rawmuse

Well done, Mr. Sowell!

The man Thomas Sowell could be my president anytime.
Conservatives will win this election,stand and be strong.

99 Archimedes  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:55:09pm

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I like my avatar! ; )

Beautiful!

100 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:55:34pm

re: #73 HoosierHoops

I got it, I replied back. =)

101 Infidel_One  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:56:05pm

In Sowell's article, he mentions the book
The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate

I went and took a look and found this customers reviews very interesting.

Learned a lot just from the review.

O/T
Election Day here in Canuckland...such excitement.....YAWN

102 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:56:18pm

re: #95 NYCHardhat

Obama will not be president. I am not going to stop saying this. I am not wishing. He will not be POTUS.

Proper projection to the subconscious involves not using negatives if I remember psych correctly.

Sen McCain is the one with the presidential bearing. Sen McCain will be the POTUS. Sen McCain is presidential. Sen. Obama is a thin skinned whiner. Have to be able to say it to do it.

103 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:56:26pm

re: #88 JacksonTn

I just realized why my post got deleted ..... sorry Charles ..... I did not take out the telephone numbers ..... can I still ask without the personal information?

I did the same thing yesterday- I accidentally gave out Rush Limbaugh's home address.

104 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:56:26pm

re: #70 SagamoreGal

I love Thomas Sowell! I may one of the few members of the Theodore Roosevelt Association who does but when I'm out in Oyster Bay next w/end for the annual TR Association w/end, I just may take along a collection of Sowell's writings and post them around key places.

(Sowell is not a fan of TR and there have been snide comments made by some TR members about Sowell but they cannot deny the fact that TR did have some serious Socialist genes in his body between 1912-1916. He didn't die a Socialist, thank God.)

I remember startling a college interviewer when I said the last book I'd read was a biography of TR. I admire the man tremendously. I studied O. Henry as part of my doctoral research, and he alludes to TR often in his stories. "The Rose of Dixie" is one of the cleverest.

105 Syrah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:56:42pm

Another Lizard had posted this last night.

Howard Stern Show, about a street interviewer asking voters why the were voting for Obama, with an interesting twist.

106 Charles  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:56:51pm

re: #88 JacksonTn

I just realized why my post got deleted ..... sorry Charles ..... I did not take out the telephone numbers ..... can I still ask without the personal information?

Post a link to the website -- then they are responsible if phone numbers change, not me...

107 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:57:04pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Well, then. We should probably give the media what they want, right?

Some of you may want to change your avatars.

That is an awesome post on hillbuzz!

108 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:57:11pm

re: #42 ArmyWife

Don't fret, I do love me some arugula in a salad, and I'm no Obama supporter. They don't get to cop-opt all the good food.......

109 gmsc  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:57:40pm

re: #27 Perplexed

(-Obama)^.5

iObama?

110 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:57:42pm

Another thing for the Eeyores to ponder:

0bama has to pick up a Bush state, while Mac needs to hold them. I do not see this happening.

111 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:58:40pm

re: #105 Syrah

Another Lizard had posted this last night.

Howard Stern Show, about a street interviewer asking voters why the were voting for Obama, with an interesting twist.

Voters in Harlem, no less!

112 pegcity  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:58:45pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

I just keep remembering back to 2004 where Kerry was a lock to win. Even during election night the biased talking heads were all saying that Kerry was going to win.

113 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:58:48pm

Obama has proposed increase the Federal Budget by 50% on the backs of the top 5% or fewer taxpayers.

The Fairness doctrine is doctrine with the (D)s, and expect assaults on the First Amend.

Obama is on record as being against gun grabbing because he doesn't have the votes, what if he did?

114 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:58:49pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Hope you're right. I'm worried about CO and NV.

115 svines  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:59:11pm

re: #66 FloridaAnole

Likely Democrat is any one who will answer the phone and speak to the NYT poll takers.

116 LEGION  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:59:27pm

BO is evil and must be defeated. Go the road of other loser demonrats. Disappear!

117 CIA Reject  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 5:59:58pm

re: #58 NYCHardhat
re: #62 hazzyday

So far common sense has trumped the media and all it's dirty little tricks, but it has been getting more and more nerve wracking every time.

In my gut I believe McCain will win, but I think it will be the new year before my nerves recover from the experience!

118 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:00:05pm

re: #42 ArmyWife

Is it ok that I eat brie? I really, really like it. Its my comfort food - brie on buttered french bread under the broiler. So, so bad for me but so good. This is what I ate growing up for breakfast. Does this make me....*gasp* one of them?

Your name gives you the right to eat any damn thing you want!
Thank you for your and your husbands service!

119 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:00:26pm

re: #101 Infidel_One

I bought the Freddoso book this weekend it was hard to find in the Seattle University Bookstore. Only two copies that I could see hidden behind an election display. Lot's of Obama displayed content, a medium amount of McCain material. The Palin biography was out front though. Plenty of Howard Zinn material for the college students.

120 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:00:27pm

re: #115 svines

Likely Democrat is any one who will answer the phone and speak to the NYT poll takers.

Well, unless Jerry Springer is on.

/

121 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:00:40pm

re: #108 tradewind

Whew! I was thinking I'd have to stock pile it and then if I got caught start screaming "What? That is brie? Oh my stars! Who knew? It just wasn't the cheese I knew!"

122 FloridaAnole  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:00:41pm

re: #65 daledog

Great to hear, Daledog -- good work! I have been going in to the local McCain/Palin Headquarters, and have been making phone calls to those Republicans who were sent Absentee ballots. Make about 115 calls in 3 hours, and some good conversations.

However, today, an interesting thing happened. A few of the people I contacted were extremely irritable and said they had already been contacted 2 or 3 times already. This puzzled me, as this assignment came to us from State HQ in Tallahassee and we're the only ones handling it. I began to wonder if this wasn't the beginning of Comrade Obama's "get in their faces" campaign, directed at GOP and Independents. I spoke to the people in charge of our effort, and they mentioned they were getting calls on Saturday complaining about very aggressive and unpleasant callers.

We have decided to ask people if they can remember any names and any other details and if they still have the calling number stored in their phone memories and to give us the information for possible forwarding to the campaign's attorneys in Washington.

123 ciaospirit  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:01:17pm

re: #105 Syrah

Another Lizard had posted this last night.

Howard Stern Show, about a street interviewer asking voters why the were voting for Obama, with an interesting twist.

The interviewees all sounded like young people. See why Obama is targeting college campuses?

124 jwb7605  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:01:56pm

re: #105 Syrah

Another Lizard had posted this last night.

Howard Stern Show, about a street interviewer asking voters why the were voting for Obama, with an interesting twist.

Who you callin' a lizard? Wait a minute, that's good, right?
Twas me, just surfin'. I noticed it had been re-posted today, though, a couple times.

I would never have expected Howard Stern to do something like this, though.

125 FloridaAnole  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:02:24pm

re: #89 tradewind

Start with the welfare rolls, then head for any campus' faculty lounge. That's your low hanging fruit for likely demo demographics.

Good one! LOL!

126 pegcity  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:02:26pm

re: #122 FloridaAnole

eventually it will be do as comrade Obama says or go to reeducation camp.

127 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:02:45pm

Hillbuzz:

Look at the party ID samples in every poll that “worries” you and see what the party ID breakdown is: the national breakdown should be 39% Dem, 35% Republican, and 26% Independent. The polls that “worry” Eeyores have Democrats at 45% or above in terms of party ID breakdown — with Republicans as low as 20%. In the last 20 years, Democrats have only had a 4% party ID advantage over Republicans. Why on Earth would that historic fact change in 2008 — and swing to a 25% or more Democrat advantage? That’s ridiculous. And everything Eeyores run around with, crazed over, is equally ridiculous if they’d just take the time to critically think through it.

Read the whole thing. They may be Hillary supporters, but it doesn't mean they're wrong about everything. Please bear in mind- there are 5-7 million people just like this out there waiting to vote N0bama.

128 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:03:02pm

re: #122 FloridaAnole

Sigh...
It's gonna be ugly, I can feel it already.
Where is Jack Bauer when we need him?

129 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:03:18pm

re: #123 ciaospirit

The interviewees all sounded like young people. See why Obama is targeting college campuses?

Fortunately, young college puke voters are about as dependable as the singing of "God Bless America" at an Obama campaign rally.

130 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:03:31pm

re: #118 Typicalwhitey

Really? This is great! I am sending AH out for a load of ice cream RIGHT NOW!

/seriously, thank you.

131 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:04:03pm

re: #126 pegcity

eventually it will be do as comrade Obama says or go to reeducation camp.

It's called Joy Camp.

Happy Happy Happy Joy Joy Joy!

132 stevieray  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:04:18pm

It is a cryin' shame that a mind as great as Sowell's is confined to writing for small circulation newspapers like the Washington Times and JWR. As good as these publications are, they don't carry the weight of the NYT, WaPo, or LAT. That these so-called major media outlets don't carry his columns is just further proof that their impending deaths are self-inflicted.

133 pegcity  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:04:39pm

re: #129 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

i think its bad for Obama to keep pimping these polls, gives people the impression that they don't need to get out and vote.

Keep it up

134 Intrepid  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:04:44pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Another thing for the Eeyores to ponder:

0bama has to pick up a Bush state, while Mac needs to hold them. I do not see this happening.

Sharm, did Bush take New Hampshire in '04? I can't remember. Also, what was the final ECV count?

Iowa's evangelicals need to go to the polls in large numbers if we're gonna hold on to that state. Only 7 EC votes, but still....

135 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:04:56pm

Ok, I've got to confess: I'm often mistaken for a moonbat by other moonbats because of my education, profession, and "refined" tastes. They assume because I share some interests I share their politics. I also don't think that others who have different tastes are inferior.

136 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:02pm

re: #128 tradewind

Sigh...
It's gonna be ugly, I can feel it already.
Where is Jack Bauer when we need him?

You can find Jack Bauer here!

137 Typicalwhitey  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:06pm

re: #130 ArmyWife

Really? This is great! I am sending AH out for a load of ice cream RIGHT NOW!

/seriously, thank you.


You are very welcome.

It is people like you, your husband and my nephew that spur me on to work harder for McCain.

I just cannot let obama yank out the troops when they are winning!

138 svines  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:08pm

re: #118 Typicalwhitey

Armywife,

I particularly like brie on water crackers that have the black pepper on them. Just slather it on and eat it with hot fresh ground coffee. God bless you and your husband.

139 JustMyView  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:47pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Another thing for the Eeyores to ponder:

0bama has to pick up a Bush state, while Mac needs to hold them. I do not see this happening.

All the projections are that Obama will pick up several Bush states. See the projected electoral maps below.

Real Clear Politics

Pollster.com

FiveThirtyEight.com

140 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:49pm

re: #131 jcm

Biden

Barry O

141 Infidel_One  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:53pm

re: #119 hazzyday

I bought the Freddoso book this weekend it was hard to find in the Seattle University Bookstore. Only two copies that I could see hidden behind an election display. Lot's of Obama displayed content, a medium amount of McCain material. The Palin biography was out front though. Plenty of Howard Zinn material for the college students.

I'd buy it ..but I don't have that kind of extra change floating around....
I am a poor Zionist

142 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:55pm

re: #71 hazzyday

Yeah, and I wonder what the Dems would call T-shirts with ' Sarah Palin is a -rhymes-with-front'.......

143 FloridaAnole  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:56pm

re: #126 pegcity

I fear you may be right. I wonder how much of his taxes on those making over $250K will go toward building his camps.?

144 Cicero05  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:05:58pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Another thing for the Eeyores to ponder:

0bama has to pick up a Bush state, while Mac needs to hold them. I do not see this happening.

Also...
Obama's support is disproportionately composed of young people who have no track record for voting. Many are likely to see the polls and decide The One doesn't need their vote to win.

The Bradley Effect is another wild card. This is for POTUS, not a mayor. I'm betting that there are many blue collar Dem voters that won't pull the lever for Obama because he's -- well, whatever the hell he is. Not pretty but potentially a decisive factor in the outcome.

The race is still close -- probably much closer than the polls suggest, and small factors can tip it to McCain.

145 Colonel Panik  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:06:03pm

re: #28 Sharmuta

Did you see the post Hillbuzz is keeping at the top of their page?

The comments are great too.

That's great Sharm, excellent link.

146 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:06:55pm

re: #135 goddessoftheclassroom

Ok, I've got to confess: I'm often mistaken for a moonbat by other moonbats because of my education, profession, and "refined" tastes. They assume because I share some interests I share their politics. I also don't think that others who have different tastes are inferior.


ummmm. No one talking to you for one minute would ever think you are a moonbat..EVAH!

147 Archimedes  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:06pm

A Mark Levin pep talk:

148 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:18pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Another thing for the Eeyores to ponder:

0bama has to pick up a Bush state, while Mac needs to hold them. I do not see this happening.

How about Fla, OH, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Missouri, etc? They're all swing states or gone blue this time.

149 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:21pm

Okay ..... trying again .... this is a link from archives about democrats.com .... on the link to their current website ..... it says they were created in 2000 but this email from David Lytel says it was 1996 and one of the two coming out parties was at William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn house in Hyde Park .....

[Link: web.archive.org...]

So, I am wondering if the party was in Hyde Park ..... was Obama on the invitation list ...... just sayin .... PARTY! DOWN WITH THE AYERS!

150 CIA Reject  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:22pm

re: #84 Sharmuta

...This is no time to panic! If you want to be depressed by the msm bullshit- knock yourself out, but don't expect the rest of us are going to want to hear it.

Hey, like I said in my 117 I think McCain will win, but it will be a hair-raising experience because of MSM shennanigans regardless of how "marginalized" we may think they are.

And with all due respect, I think posters here want to hear what people have to say as long as they are expressing an honest opinion. This blog is one of the least "echo chambery" places I have found on the 'net - just MHO.

151 tradewind  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:32pm

re: #135 goddessoftheclassroom

Don't feel bad. I drive a hybrid, and take all kinds of abuse for it....

152 pegcity  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:38pm

re: #143 FloridaAnole

it could get ugly, maybe it will just be grassroots hoodlums roughing people up at first, and then arrests for race based discrimination.

Funny that liberals project all of their evils on everyone else

153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:07:44pm

re: #139 JustMyView

All the projections are that Obama will pick up several Bush states. See the projected electoral maps below.

Real Clear Politics

Pollster.com

FiveThirtyEight.com

You should change your nic to JustMyLiberalView.

154 JustMyView  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:08:12pm

re: #139 JustMyView

All the projections are that Obama will pick up several Bush states. See the projected electoral maps below.

Real Clear Politics

Pollster.com

FiveThirtyEight.com

Something is wrong w/ the links above. Are other people having trouble creating links?

155 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:08:36pm

re: #141 Infidel_One

I'd buy it ..but I don't have that kind of extra change floating around....
I am a poor Zionist

Wait- I thought all Jews were rich...

///

156 sharp_discernment  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:08:40pm

Obama, "whoooooo are you, who who, who who?"

By the way, has anybody noticed that not ONE damn democrat has stood up to say ANYTHING about (against) the ACORN scandal? Does that mean they're all turning a blind eye and it's OK to steal an election?

/

New here *waves shyly* :)

157 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:08:46pm

re: #105 Syrah

Another Lizard had posted this last night.

Howard Stern Show, about a street interviewer asking voters why the were voting for Obama, with an interesting twist.

Hi, Syrah. That was funny....I support "O" leaving the troops in Iraq...lol

Every one of those yahoos said they were happy about Palin being Obama's choice for VP...what a riot!

158 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:08:52pm

re: #137 Typicalwhitey

Again thanks - we have lots of Soldiers and family members on here. The Soldiers (ok fine, the sailors, marines and airmen, too I guess) should get the praise. They are the ones putting their hineies on the line, not me. But I still really appreciate the sentiment. Right back at all the others out there in the boat with me!

159 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:09:11pm

re: #140 ArmyWife

Biden

Barry O

ROFL!

160 jorline  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:09:44pm

re: #154 JustMyView

Something is wrong w/ the links above. Are other people having trouble creating links?

It's the fuzzy math...

161 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:09:49pm

Another thing to keep in mind concerning the polls is democrat registrations are higher because of 1) ACORN and 2) a lot of republicans changed party affiliations to join Operation Chaos.

Also- not even the 0bamabots are buying the polls anymore:

That's not what lots of smart folks in the Obama campaign think. They believe Obama's poll numbers are artificially high, McCain's are artificially low, this race will come down to two or three points, and anything could happen.

162 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:10:07pm

re: #154 JustMyView

Something is wrong w/ the links above. Are other people having trouble creating links?

Link Test!

163 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:10:11pm

re: #132 stevieray

It is a cryin' shame that a mind as great as Sowell's is confined to writing for small circulation newspapers like the Washington Times and JWR. As good as these publications are, they don't carry the weight of the NYT, WaPo, or LAT. That these so-called major media outlets don't carry his columns is just further proof that their impending deaths are self-inflicted.

The NY Post runs him and they're pretty high up on the circulation chain.

164 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:10:15pm

re: #151 tradewind

High Five brother! (Sister?) I drive a Volvo!

165 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:10:19pm

re: #162 jcm

Link Test!

Nope.....

166 Syrah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:11:02pm

re: #124 jwb7605

Who you callin' a lizard? Wait a minute, that's good, right?
Twas me, just surfin'. I noticed it had been re-posted today, though, a couple times.

I would never have expected Howard Stern to do something like this, though.

Of course it is good to be a Lizard.

Only the best are Lizards.

Thanks for posting that. It helps to put into perspective how some people in this election know almost nothing about why they are voting for Obama and how they will claim to support things that they would just as easily have said they would have opposed if the question were asked differently.

167 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:11:13pm

re: #49 Cicero05

Isn't Tom Sowell considered a traitor to his race? Him, Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Walter Williams, Michael Steele -- they're all badly in need of compulsory re-education.


Don't forget the conservative intellectual Alan Keyes

.

168 svines  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:11:25pm

re: #139 JustMyView

Well Obama will not pick up Texas. We may be an odd lot from time to time, but we don't vote for closet socialists (except for Dubya).

Austin and Houston aside, we tend to be a truly conservative lot, and we like bein' plain folk. No high falutin' ideas about each to his needs etc.
We don't need someone to tell us we're racist if we point out another jack a**'s shortcomings and his commie friends.

169 FrogMarch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:11:37pm

Moral of the story? McCain and Palin need to start using the word "alliance".

170 jwb7605  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:11:49pm

re: #158 ArmyWife

Again thanks - we have lots of Soldiers and family members on here. The Soldiers (ok fine, the sailors, marines and airmen, too I guess) should get the praise. They are the ones putting their hineies on the line, not me. But I still really appreciate the sentiment. Right back at all the others out there in the boat with me!

Assuming the worst (Eeyore mode on), what's your opinion on military cutbacks?
They could cut personnel, and probably will, but at what pay grade?
They can cut equipment, and probably will, but ... guns, bullets, or hi-tech?
They can cut benefits.
They can do all sorts of insidious unnoticeable stuff.

171 svines  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:12:05pm

re: #156 sharp_discernment

Yes.

172 FloridaAnole  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:12:34pm

re: #28 Sharmuta

Did you see the post Hillbuzz is keeping at the top of their page?

The comments are great too.

Terrific post, Sharmuta! Thanks for the link. It was a great mood lifter.

173 sngnsgt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:12:34pm

re: #162 jcm

Worked for me.

174 Infidel_One  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:12:36pm

re: #155 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wait- I thought all Jews were rich...

///


BWAHAHAHAHA
I have a roof and food....so yeah I am richer than some....
Hey wait a minute...maybe I should move to the U.S. and get in on
some of that "wealth redistribution".....
Thinking.....hmmmmmm

175 JustMyView  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:13:51pm

re: #168 svines

Well Obama will not pick up Texas. We may be an odd lot from time to time, but we don't vote for closet socialists (except for Dubya).

Austin and Houston aside, we tend to be a truly conservative lot, and we like bein' plain folk. No high falutin' ideas about each to his needs etc.
We don't need someone to tell us we're racist if we point out another jack a**'s shortcomings and his commie friends.

That's right. No one is projecting that Texas will turn blue.

176 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:14:20pm

Dang ..... is it true that David Lytel built the White House website?

177 svines  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:14:55pm

re: #172 FloridaAnole

As Rush would say, Ditto!

178 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:15:27pm

re: #176 JacksonTn

Dang ..... is it true that David Lytel built the White House website?

.com or .gov?
/

179 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:15:32pm

re: #148 Killgore Trout

How about Fla, OH, Nevada, New Mexico, Colorado, Missouri, etc? They're all swing states or gone blue this time.

That must be why McCain's abandoned them to stump in blue states, huh?

180 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:16:33pm

re: #178 jcm

.com or .gov?
/

good questions ..... let me check

181 Colonel Panik  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:16:48pm

re: #127 Sharmuta

Hillbuzz:

Read the whole thing. They may be Hillary supporters, but it doesn't mean they're wrong about everything. Please bear in mind- there are 5-7 million people just like this out there waiting to vote N0bama.

ROAR PUMAS ROAR!

182 Colin Nelson  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:16:56pm

Amongst the many gaps in the BHO narrative, this one has puzzled me for some time:

How was it that Obama out of nowhere became a prof (lecturer more likely) of Constitutional law?

Seems to me that in order for this to happen, one might look at a candidate who has written extensive legal papers on various Constitutional issues - none exist; or, you might seek someone who has taught somewhere with distinction for a number of years - he did not, or, you might have friends (allies) who just made it happen.

Just curious, but has H. Kurtz uncovered the fell hand of Ayers behind the curtain in the selection of Hussein to his teaching post?

183 JustMyView  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:16:58pm

Charles, when I attempt to paste the URL into the box to create a link, nothing appears. Do you have a suggestion as to what might be wrong?

184 offendi  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:17:44pm

To Obama and the Democratic Party:

Mene, mene tekel u'parsin

185 JimCap  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:17:48pm

Well, unfortunately more people are listening to the MSM than Tom Sowell.

It's not looking good. I usually don't believe all of these MSM polls, but look at Fox? How do we explain that one?

Also, when I talk to relatives, business contacts and co workers, they all seem to be suffering from "Obama Brainwashing". I asked one young woman who worked with me, who used to distrust Obama, why she now plans to vote for him. She actually said "I don't know. I just like him." Can you believe that? Her husband said "Well, McCain's too old." What? As if that's a good reason!

So, we've got people voting for Obama who can't even give us a good reason. Why should I keep banging my head against the wall when no one seems to care anymore?

186 little doxie  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:18:11pm

Not sure if I did this link right, but James T. Harris, a Conservative
African American talk show host here in Milwaukee is taking an *ss whipping (his words to McCain last Thursday in Waukesha) for the crime of
not supporting the "Chocolate Jesus" (also his term for Obama).

[Link: www.620wtmj.com...]
There is also another post at Charlie's site from today concerning the
ACLU and James, couldn't post the link though.

187 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:18:26pm

I thought the petition to suspend the election here was good.

Just found this one ([Link: www.postponetheelection.com...]

Whoa baby.

188 Colonel Panik  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:18:49pm

re: #128 tradewind

Sigh...
It's gonna be ugly, I can feel it already.
Where is Jack Bauer when we need him?

CAIR has him in sensitivity training.

189 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:18:50pm

Here is some more info on that ......

Information Infrastructure Specialist
White House Office of Science and Technology Policy
(Government Agency; 1001-5000 employees; Government Administration industry)
1993 — 1996 (3 years)
After a post-doctoral appointment at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government I joined the Clinton Administration in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. At the start I managed the inter-agency Information Infrastructure Task Force, ghost wrote for Vice President Gore, prepared Congressional testimony and worked generally on the commercialization and privatization of the Internet. In 1994 I argued within the White House that the best way to legitimize and validate the Internet as a place for commerce and democracy was to build a large scale Web site. Out of this was born the first White House Web site (1994) and its version 2.0 (1996). Called “easily one of the best sites on the Net” by Hotwired, the site was innovative for its use of image mapping and the first guide to government services.


***

I am thinkin the real deal .......

190 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:20:18pm

re: #170 jwb7605

This should be thrown to someone in the military, but I'll do my best -

If the decision is based on business rationale, Junior NCOs (E5, E6) out the door, assuming we are talking about enlisted ranks here out the door. Why? Because they are earning money that is actually starting to resemble a real salary and the point is to save cash. The bonus is most of those guys don't have the time in to earn a retirement, either. To make sure that happens, they might say E5s and E6s with less than 20 (or 15 to be safe) BE GONE. This keeps the younger ones in to follow the orders of the old crusty 1SGT (HA HA, AH!) and since they have to pay the old crusty ones retirement any way, might as well keep them around for a bit more abuse!

191 Idle Drifter  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:20:35pm
192 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:20:51pm

Second confirmation on that party at Ayers .......

[Link: web.archive.org...]

193 livefreeor die  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:21:29pm

I am so sick of self important liberals quoting as fact things that have been disproven. I was at the blood lab today doing my gestational diabetes test (which is vile) and two women start blabbing loudly to each other about how Palin doesn't have enough experience, Alaska isn't that important a state to have run, blah, blah, blah. One starts quoting scripture to the other about how the Bible shows that what Obama wants to do is what God wants. I thought I was going to go into labor right there and then.

194 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:22:58pm

re: #167 twincitiesgirl

Don't forget the conservative intellectual Alan Keyes

.

Who lost in the Ill. Senate election to (guess who)...

195 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:23:20pm

re: #187 erisldysnomia

I thought the petition to suspend the election here was good.

Just found this one ([Link: www.postponetheelection.com...]

Any spelling errors in this one?

Due to the recently-discovered rampant voter registration fraud throughout the nation, we, the people of the United States of America, in order to preserve, protect and defend our voting rights and our rights to due process under the Constitution of the United States, including any/and all other rights thereto arising from the common law and/or any applicable Federal and/or state statues, do hereby petition the Petitionees that the National election, as well as all state and local elections likewise affected, be postponed, delayed and rescheduled until such time as a proper assessment of the damage to the entire credibility of the voting outcome of the election can be reliably determined.

It would be a gross perversion of justice, fairness and the Constitution to allow the election to go forward knowing fully well that there have been thousands of felonies, if not tens of thousands of felonies, purposely commited to deprive legitimate voters of their rights to a fair and honest election and to steal the election for the Democrat party and the Obama campaign. This has been a criminal conspiracy to steal this election and those responsible must be identified and brought to justice and the damage to the integrity of our voter registration system must be corrected prior to holding the election, or all future elections will be forever tainted with distrust.

The purpose of this petition is to peacefully avoid any civil unrest that very might well occur in reaction to what will surely be perceived as a stolen election, were it to go forward with known and rampant fraud destroying its credibility. The American people are so disgusted with government's absolute failure to perform its duties responsibly that public unrest has reached the point at which further failures of government to respond to the people's will is not going to be taken likely, especially if the government goes ahead with what is already known to be an election which is known ahead of time to be totally unreliable due to the rampant voter registration fraud purposefully intended to steal the election.

We, the people of this great nation. believe that this petition is extremely important in this emergency situation in order to satisfactorily resolve this matter quickly.The American people as petitioners believe that, given the circumstances, a postponement of the election is the most prudent course of action to preserve the peace and guarantee the survivability of our Republic as we know it.

In the event that the Petitionees choose to ignore this petition, it is assured that the American people will rise up and seek every means possible to seek legal remedies that will most likely embroil this great nation in turmoil for years to come until the American people are able to reform this woefully ineffective, incompetent and nonresponsive government and the officials who have caused it to be so terribly dysfunctional.

We, the undersigned Petitioners, do hereby respectively petition the Petitionees to postpone, delay and reschedule the National election, as well as any others similarly affected, for the reasons as stated hereinabove.

Whoa baby.

196 jwb7605  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:24:05pm

re: #190 ArmyWife

This should be thrown to someone in the military, but I'll do my best -

If the decision is based on business rationale, Junior NCOs (E5, E6) out the door, assuming we are talking about enlisted ranks here out the door. Why? Because they are earning money that is actually starting to resemble a real salary and the point is to save cash. The bonus is most of those guys don't have the time in to earn a retirement, either. To make sure that happens, they might say E5s and E6s with less than 20 (or 15 to be safe) BE GONE. This keeps the younger ones in to follow the orders of the old crusty 1SGT (HA HA, AH!) and since they have to pay the old crusty ones retirement any way, might as well keep them around for a bit more abuse!


Makes sense. I've got a Staff Sergeant Marine son who needs to decide on whether to re-enlist this coming January -- that's the hidden reason I asked the question.
If he decides not to re-enlist (which is hard to believe), he'll see roughly the same economic conditions his dad did in 1972 coming out of the Navy.

Difficult choices.

197 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:24:16pm

I wonder how this would have all been different if Mike Ditka had opposed BHO in Illinois instead of Alan Keyes.

198 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:25:18pm

Went to see An American Carol ... I'm glad I showed my support for the producers, director, and actors, but I really wish they'd made a better movie! I would have dumped the Leslie Nielson part altogether, it was completely unnecessary. Then I would have followed the "Christmas Carol" structure more closely. This movie could have been both funnier AND more serious and touching.

Team America is still the BEST and FUNNIEST recent pro-American movie!

199 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:25:42pm

re: #193 livefreeor die

My favorite was at Costco, couple looking at an empty pallet of salt bags. Wife looks at husband and says, "Did Bush fuck up the salt too?"

Whole pallet of salt one rack up.....

200 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:27:21pm

re: #193 livefreeor die

I am so sick of self important liberals quoting as fact things that have been disproven. I was at the blood lab today doing my gestational diabetes test (which is vile) and two women start blabbing loudly to each other about how Palin doesn't have enough experience, Alaska isn't that important a state to have run, blah, blah, blah. One starts quoting scripture to the other about how the Bible shows that what Obama wants to do is what God wants. I thought I was going to go into labor right there and then.

First of all, congratulations on your expectations! What a happy time--I hope you're feeling well and do not have g.d.

Secondly, do you notice how PALIN is compared to Obama, not McCain? WHAT experience do they think Obama has?

May they see the truth before Nov. 4.

201 CynicalConservative  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:27:52pm

re: #183 JustMyView

Charles, when I attempt to paste the URL into the box to create a link, nothing appears. Do you have a suggestion as to what might be wrong?

It's just the JMV doom & gloom filter

/

202 livefreeor die  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:28:11pm

re: #199 jcm

My favorite was at Costco, couple looking at an empty pallet of salt bags. Wife looks at husband and says, "Did Bush fuck up the salt too?"

Whole pallet of salt one rack up.....

Ah, where are the anvils when you need them!

203 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:29:15pm

re: #193 livefreeor die

I am so sick of self important liberals quoting as fact things that have been disproven. I was at the blood lab today doing my gestational diabetes test (which is vile) and two women start blabbing loudly to each other about how Palin doesn't have enough experience, Alaska isn't that important a state to have run, blah, blah, blah. One starts quoting scripture to the other about how the Bible shows that what Obama wants to do is what God wants. I thought I was going to go into labor right there and then.

Did you take time to set them straight? After all they were blabbing loudly because they wanted others to hear them. That sounds like an invitation to speak up and put in your two cents.

204 livefreeor die  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:30:07pm

re: #200 goddessoftheclassroom

First of all, congratulations on your expectations! What a happy time--I hope you're feeling well and do not have g.d.

Secondly, do you notice how PALIN is compared to Obama, not McCain? WHAT experience do they think Obama has?

May they see the truth before Nov. 4.

Thanks for the good wishes!
Yes, I always wonder how they reconcile Obama's complete lack of accomplishment with criticizing Palin's record. But then, rational thought is not one of their strong points.

205 Dr. Slogan  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:30:10pm

The growing list of worst America-haters endorsing Obama, is mindboggling for anyone who takes 5 seconds to think about it. Ahmadinejad, Qaddafi, Hamas, Kim Jong-Il, Castro, Ortega... The list goes on, yet so many people choose to ignore this. They spend days researching the next car to buy, not to mention the next house, but somehow assume it's okay to spend 5 min researching the background of the person who have an enormous impact on everything in America. Socialism in its ugliest shape is coming to them if Obama gets elected, but they'll realize this only when it's too late.

But there are still many eyes we can open before the election. Obama keeps going up in polls because people listen to the huge propaganda machine–and take its lies at face value. They don't go to sites like LGF. We need to use more of conversation changers. More of attention grabbers that make an impact in 5 sec. And THEN those whose opinions still can be changed may start reading more. Obama’s side if excellent in creating visuals that go straight to the emotions level, bypassing logic. Just take a look at this site know what I’m talking about.

Can you name a single memorable anti-Obama poster that speaks to the center-leaning Democratic voter? I can't. To fill this gap, I've started a repository accompanied by a blog and a Facebook page that are designed fill this gap. Please take a look--it will take you only a couple of minutes to form your opinion and decide whether you'd like to use it. Your comments and suggestions are more than welcome.

- Jeff Tyler

206 Theodoric Squared  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:30:42pm

Nearly everything Obama and Rezko did in the '90's is being
unwound now while we watch...Good or bad? Tough call!
Bring on the Zombocalypse!

207 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:32:27pm

re: #186 little doxie

I saw the CNN logo on the clip--was this live nationwide? I rarely watch CNN. I loved McCain's remark thanking Mr Harris for his courage but his reward would probably be in heaven. This is good, why don't they use it in an ad?

208 Florida Lady  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:32:35pm

Oh, for heavens sake . . . JMV is back with a few piles to drop.

Sounds like my daughter's moonbat boyfriend . . . trying to be some voice of reason and failing miserably.

My husband and I have fun batting him around, too.

209 livefreeor die  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:33:29pm

re: #203 Tigger2005

Did you take time to set them straight? After all they were blabbing loudly because they wanted others to hear them. That sounds like an invitation to speak up and put in your two cents.

One got called in for her lab test. The other one got into it with three men who were discussing how they wished they had bought stock Friday. She told them she was going to pull her money out of the stock market. They asked what she planned to do with it and she said, "Convert it to cash and keep it at home." At that point, the elderly woman she appeared to be a companion for got called in for her lab test. The men were in hysterics after she left.

I kind of viewed it as a "Never try to teach a pig to sing" moment. I need to keep my blood pressure low for the lizard to be.

210 CynicalConservative  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:33:39pm

re: #208 Florida Lady

Oh, for heavens sake . . . JMV is back with a few piles to drop.

Sounds like my daughter's moonbat boyfriend . . . trying to be some voice of reason and failing miserably.

My husband and I have fun batting him around, too.

Had to ding that one up, have had some fun arguments there myself.

211 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:34:03pm

re: #204 livefreeor die

Congrats! That test is the WORST. The stuff you have to keep drinking made me throw up, which means I had to do it all over again. Don't you just love all the pregnancy horror stories that we are just compelled to tell to pregnant ladies? Its like some weird gravitational pull. The strength of that pull is directly correlated to the number of the pregnancies the person on the receiving end of the stories have had. It is infinitely stronger if you find out its a first pregnancy gets weaker from there.

212 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:34:31pm

re: #194 rawmuse

Does the corruption in that state go back to the mob days? Just curious.

213 Metal Man  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:35:00pm

re: #132 stevieray

It is a cryin' shame that a mind as great as Sowell's is confined to writing for small circulation newspapers like the Washington Times and JWR. As good as these publications are, they don't carry the weight of the NYT, WaPo, or LAT. That these so-called major media outlets don't carry his columns is just further proof that their impending deaths are self-inflicted.

Sowell is confined to small circulation in the media and by his high standards and the truth. As can be seen in this excerpt from one of his books, The Vision of the Anointed. Prescient for how this election will be decided.

214 kansas  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:35:55pm

I just made up this new poll. ACORN did a poll of dead voters. Obama lead in that poll by 14 points. Coincidence?

215 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:36:06pm

More from Sowell,

The story of Obama's political career is not a pretty story. He won his first political victory by being the only candidate on the ballot— after hiring someone skilled at disqualifying the signers of opposing candidates' petitions, on whatever technicality he could come up with.

Saul Alinsky.. Force your enemy to live up to the letter of the law.

216 Little Doxie  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:36:18pm

re: #207 twincitiesgirl

I'm not sure if it was live or not but he has been on a lot of the networks
since Thursday and Charlie Sykes at 620WTMJ has a lot of posts on his
blog about it.

217 livefreeor die  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:37:47pm

re: #211 ArmyWife

Congrats! That test is the WORST. The stuff you have to keep drinking made me throw up, which means I had to do it all over again. Don't you just love all the pregnancy horror stories that we are just compelled to tell to pregnant ladies? Its like some weird gravitational pull. The strength of that pull is directly correlated to the number of the pregnancies the person on the receiving end of the stories have had. It is infinitely stronger if you find out its a first pregnancy gets weaker from there.

Yes, this is my third. I was in there with a woman who was expecting her first. She was still in that warm, fuzzy "all these tests are so exciting" mode whereas I was in "There's an hour of my life I won't get back." That drink they give you makes me dizzy from the sugar rush. I wish they could just hand you a hot fudge sundae. The baby liked it though! He was tap dancing for an hour afterwards!

218 noelUSAF  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:37:50pm

There's talk in my branch that quite a few military personnel will walk is Hussein gets into office.... I personally would not serve with this fu@#$in IDIOT in charge.....

219 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:38:39pm

re: #185 JimCap

Well, unfortunately more people are listening to the MSM than Tom Sowell.

It's not looking good. I usually don't believe all of these MSM polls, but look at Fox? How do we explain that one?

Also, when I talk to relatives, business contacts and co workers, they all seem to be suffering from "Obama Brainwashing". I asked one young woman who worked with me, who used to distrust Obama, why she now plans to vote for him. She actually said "I don't know. I just like him." Can you believe that? Her husband said "Well, McCain's too old." What? As if that's a good reason!

So, we've got people voting for Obama who can't even give us a good reason. Why should I keep banging my head against the wall when no one seems to care anymore?

I'll let you in on one little secret, fox = msm. don't kid yerself about fox. murdoch already has stated he'd like obama to win.they're in the tank for obama also.bet on it.

220 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:38:55pm

Here are some of Alinsky's rules for radicals. Just to take a page from the Obama's political handbook.

Rule 1: Power is not only what you have, but what an opponent thinks you have. If your organization is small, hide your numbers in the dark and raise a din that will make everyone think you have many more people than you do.

Rule 2: Never go outside the experience of your people.
The result is confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 3: Whenever possible, go outside the experience of an opponent. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

Rule 4: Make opponents live up to their own book of rules. “You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

Rule 5: Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

221 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:40:00pm

re: #218 noelUSAF

There's talk in my branch that quite a few military personnel will walk is Hussein gets into office.... I personally would not serve with this fu@#$in IDIOT in charge.....

I as USAF during Carter, I gladly walked away. Part of me wishes I stuck it out till Reagan.

222 offendi  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:40:12pm

The Obama lemmings would believe it if you told them that McCain was out there on the grassy knoll in Dallas.

Can't convince the brain-dead. Best approach is get everyone out to vote.

223 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:40:23pm

re: #218 noelUSAF

Have you read about John Kerry possibly being Secretary of Defense?

224 Eaglesdad  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:41:24pm

A nother
C orrupt
O bama
R lationship
N oticed
We don't need a corrupt Chicago politician in D.C. we can see what they did for Chicago!

225 sharp_discernment  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:42:17pm

Letter to the Republican Party From a Concerned Puma
[Link: www.puma08.com...]

I feel like THEY are pulling me up by the boot straps. We (figuratively)could learn a few things from them....AND THEN JOIN FORCES!

GO PUMAS!

226 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:43:26pm

re: #223 twincitiesgirl

Have you read about John Kerry possibly being Secretary of Defense?

They could call him Secretary Genghis John.

227 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:44:34pm

ACORN news story aggregation:

[Link: www.postponetheelection.com...]

228 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:45:21pm

Can the parasite become the host?

229 erisldysnomia  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:48:01pm

re: #228 Taqyia2Me

Can the parasite become the host?

Not if the parasite is a Goa'uld. I don't think a Goa'uld can infect another Goa'uld!

230 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:51:20pm

re: #221 jcm

AH will retire at his 20 (~2 years) rather than stay in despite being told he has been pegged as a potential CSM. Though he debates back and forth that he just might get out anyway, so I don't know if its a credible threat.

231 ArmyWife  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:51:57pm

re: #226 Mich-again

You are pronouncing this jenjhis, right?

232 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 6:54:15pm

A large part of it is because lots of people are still absolutely clueless about just how far around the bend the MSM has gone. Even Fox News sucks almost all the time ... I hear O'Reilly just did a piece on the ACORN voting fraud scandal that ignored Obama's connections to ACORN, ignored the $800,000 gift his campaign gave to ACORN, and basically wrote the whole thing off as a distraction rather than the grave threat to our election process that it is.

But my point is, many people honestly believe that if Obama was so awful, surely the MSM would tell them. I mean, how could they pass up the chance to report such Earth-shaking news ... "Inexperienced, Indecisive, Underachieving, Flip-Flopping, Truth-Challenged, Narcissistic, BAIPA-rejecting, Possibly Racist, Radical America-hating Socialist Could be Our Next President! Oh, and by the way, his tax cuts are bogus and his economic plan will probably bankrupt the country in 3 years."? Since the media doesn't, they figure anything negative they might hear about him from other sources must be right-wing smears and propaganda.

People think MSM "vetting" and the primary process will ensure that only reasonably qualified individuals can possibly get nominated to run for President on a mainstream party ticket. The media refuses to inform them that the would-be emperor has no clothes.


re: #205 Dr. Slogan

The growing list of worst America-haters endorsing Obama, is mindboggling for anyone who takes 5 seconds to think about it. Ahmadinejad, Qaddafi, Hamas, Kim Jong-Il, Castro, Ortega... The list goes on, yet so many people choose to ignore this. They spend days researching the next car to buy, not to mention the next house, but somehow assume it's okay to spend 5 min researching the background of the person who have an enormous impact on everything in America. Socialism in its ugliest shape is coming to them if Obama gets elected, but they'll realize this only when it's too late.

But there are still many eyes we can open before the election. Obama keeps going up in polls because people listen to the huge propaganda machine–and take its lies at face value. They don't go to sites like LGF. We need to use more of conversation changers. More of attention grabbers that make an impact in 5 sec. And THEN those whose opinions still can be changed may start reading more. Obama’s side if excellent in creating visuals that go straight to the emotions level, bypassing logic. Just take a look at this site know what I’m talking about.

Can you name a single memorable anti-Obama poster that speaks to the center-leaning Democratic voter? I can't. To fill this gap, I've started a repository accompanied by a blog and a Facebook page that are designed fill this gap. Please take a look--it will take you only a couple of minutes to form your opinion and decide whether you'd like to use it. Your comments and suggestions are more than welcome.

- Jeff Tyler

233 Mich-again  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:02:23pm

re: #231 ArmyWife

You are pronouncing this jenjhis, right?

Oh but of course. And I got the Thurston Howell lockjaw thing going.

234 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:08:53pm
235 looking closely  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:09:52pm

re: #13 CIA Reject

Any legal lizards out there willing to post some good asset hiding strategies?

I'm afraid we may need them

Convert all your cash into ammunition.
Run for the hills. . .

236 Colin Nelson  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:11:30pm

#232 Tiger:

CNN managed to do an entire story (yesterday) about the voter registration 'fraud' situation and never mentioned Acorn at all. Needless to say, no mention of BHO in the story either.

237 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:17:26pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Well, then. We should probably give the media what they want, right?

Some of you may want to change your avatars.

I feel, at least for me, this would make a much more appropriate avatar if and when needed.

238 KLFVan  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:18:52pm

that's why local libraries are so good, you can borrow books, books on CD, DVDs, etc. for free.re: #141 Infidel_One

I'd buy it ..but I don't have that kind of extra change floating around....
I am a poor Zionist

239 mattm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:22:55pm

Is aggreeing with him racist according the the libs? Hmmmm.

240 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:23:29pm
Critics of Senator Barack Obama make a strategic mistake when they talk about his "past associations." That just gives his many defenders in the media an opportunity to counter-attack against "guilt by association."

The McCain campaign makes constant strategic mistakes like this.

That lame 'Not Ready To Lead' always got my goat. As if he could be ready in another four years. It also only reinforces Obama's youth and change message.

And now McCain is undercutting the long overdue Ayers etc. attacks by telling everybody Obama is really a decent fellow and nothing to be scared of.

241 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:24:48pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Another thing for the Eeyores to ponder:

0bama has to pick up a Bush state, while Mac needs to hold them. I do not see this happening.

Something else to consider, the pundits sure aren't, is there is at least one "True Blue" state that is not at all a slam-dunk will vote for Obama state; Washington State. I believe there are a few others that the pundits are not factoring in when they blather about the "battleground states", which suits me just fine. Will make the victory of McCain all the sweeter for the unexpected b!tch-slap Obama gets.

242 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:26:08pm

re: #139 JustMyView

All the projections are that Obama will pick up several Bush states. See the projected electoral maps below.

Real Clear Politics

Pollster.com

FiveThirtyEight.com

Is brown your natural eye color or what?

243 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:29:42pm

re: #242 FurryOldGuyJeans
Very funny set of links from JMV.

244 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:30:10pm

re: #243 snowcrash

Very funny set of links from JMV.

I know, but I still had to ask. ;)

245 LittleGreenFavre  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:30:32pm

re: #14 itellu3times

It's racist to say black people have patterns.

Heck, it's worse than that, it's non-progressive, anti-empirical, right wing, prejudiced, close-minded, reactionary, maybe even Alaskan.

ROTFLMAO!

246 BarackObama  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:46:00pm

re: #32 ArmyWife

Someone on here made a great point (Mama Winger? probably!) that all of Barry's associations fall into one of three categories - Terrorists, Radicals (Muslim and otherwise) or dead. Her question was why is that? Why no one normal that he walked to school with or something? That is what we need to start asking repeatedly.

Well, allied and sold out to just about any Socialist Moonbat Ass Clown with a check in hand or votes in their pocket... A man who has made a career of sucking off the tit of our Government for 20+ years, TWENTY+ YEARS of social(ist) activism glossed over with smooth speeches and slick marketing.

Makes me sick to my stomach that this is even a contest.

247 LGoPs  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:46:31pm

re: #166 Syrah

Of course it is good to be a Lizard.

Only the best are Lizards.

Thanks for posting that. It helps to put into perspective how some people in this election know almost nothing about why they are voting for Obama and how they will claim to support things that they would just as easily have said they would have opposed if the question were asked differently.

I heard the excerpt. The people responding were sand-poundingly stupid......supporting Obama's Right to Life position for instance...... They are truly mind-numbed robots.......

248 ShanghaiRay  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:59:09pm

7 Years ago it seemed that the only thing that could wakeup the American people to the threat of global terrorism was a direct attack on the Homeland. So on Sept. 11th it happened and most people were gung ho and really wanted to take it to the terrorists. Now, American has fallen back into the same old lackadaisical attitude on terrorism and a multitude of other serious issues. From time to time America has always needed some disaster to wake itself up. Perhaps it is caused by the fact that America is no prosperous and the abundance and wealth is mind blowing compared to other countries. Then, most Americans fall back to sleep, toss and turn a few times and just forget about the nightmare that just occurred.

This election is no different. I really want McCain to win but I have a very funny feeling about all of this. I never believed the Gore or Kerry hype and laughed at most Dem pundits when they said they were going to win. This time is different. There is a strange wind blowing across America and it's called basic ignorance. Ultimately, good will prevail and things will get back on even keel, however, I believe we are in a world of sh*t for sometime to come and the only people we can blame for it are ourselves. Yeah, we can blame the 911 terrorists for the act the perpetrated against us but our ignorance and complacency were two other major factors in such a bad thing happening to our beloved country.

Yeah complacency and ignorance...looks like they are rearing their ugly heads again.

249 leftover54  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 7:59:17pm

Gee, I thought I heard this on CBS?NBC?ABC?CNN?MSNBC last night - I think ? NO ?
"Obama crowds call for the lynching of palin"

250 profitsbeard  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:08:11pm

Obama came too late to pal around with Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky and Mao.

Ayers, Pfleger, Rezko and Wright are his shabby substitutes.

Crypto-Marxist crybaby.

251 gipper123  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:11:28pm

Its as if the country has been hypnotized. A man that had his own children baptized by a racist anti American thug lunatic is said to have the ability to walk on water. Leading in the polls? Really? You are right, there is a strange wind blowing across the country. Perhaps every 30 years or so the country needs a shot of misery to remind us all why we are blessed to have been born in the greatest country in the history of the world.
Best Regards,
Smog

252 dbe928  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:21:43pm

It's a long way to the election, folks, don't despair. In politics a week is like a year and anything can happen between now and the first Tuesday in November. I have not given up on McCain and Palin coming through, and I think Obama might just step in it one time too many or cause too many doubts IF the GOP is smart. They might still win, and some say there will be big GOP gains. We'll see.

253 Marlin925  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:23:47pm

re: #26 Typicalwhitey

Your work schedule shows that you are selfish and uncaring. When the 0bamunist takes power, he will re-distribute your ill gotten gains to people in the pee-cee "victim" class, whos state of affairs is NEVER TO BE DISCUSSED! (sarc)

254 wee fury  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:24:44pm

I respect Thomas Sowell.

255 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:26:50pm

I hang out with the younger crowd and the only reason I can understand why they are so into BO is because he is young. Most these kids just really don't trust older people whatsoever and that is a huge driving factor in his popularity as superficial as that is.

256 Marlin925  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:28:10pm

re: #249 leftover54

I think the article you linked to is satire. Let's keep our shot groups tight, lizards!

257 rexatosis  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:30:48pm

I began reading Dr. Sowell in college, he had as great an impact on my intellectual development as any professor I had. I wish I could get more of my students to read him (or read period).

Just a OT hypothesis regarding the polls. Since most of the polls showing Obama ahead of McCain by 8-11% pts are widely oversampling Democrates by upwards of 20% the actual gap between Obama and McCain among likely voters must be narrower. Lets be very conservative and put it at a 3% pt swing leaving the gap at 5-8% pts. Then factoring in the "Bradley" effect (which is actually what is known in Statistics as the "Hawthorne Effect" where the respondent gives the interviewer a response he or she believes the interviewer wants or will look favorably on) which historically has been around 5 or more % pts. (Please note this has been the case in the primaries, caucases require open declarations of support this "nullifying" the effect since those suseptible to the Hawthorne Effect do not have an opportunity to recast their response with out the statistical impact of the interviewer) If we again give the "Bradley" effect a conservative value of 3% pts the Obama lead further shrinks to 2-5% pts. Then factoring in the youth vote (or lack thereof) we may see an interesting anomoly occur. Since the MSM is pushing the line of an inevitable Obama victory over McCain one must ask whether this "foregone conclusion" will have an impact on turnout and upon which portions of the electorate will be impacted the most. Given the substantial edge Obama holds among the youth vote, and that votes propencity to not show up on election day relative to older voters, especially if they do not think their vote matters (and the youth vote is completely clueless regarding the lower ballot races, referendums, and initiatives.) If the MSM's trumpetting of an inevitiable Obama victory suppresses the 18-25 demographic so Obama sees a loss of 2% pts in this "key" demographic then Obama's edge shrinks further to 0-3% pts, a statistical dead heat. Since we making conservative adjustments to the original MSM polls that should be well within the range of the original skewing by the MSM it may be well within statistical probability McCain/Palin will win the Presidential election given the current polling data. Just a Hypothesis :)

258 Colonel Panik  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:05pm

re: #223 twincitiesgirl

Have you read about John Kerry possibly being Secretary of Defense?

YOU RANG?

259 maddogg  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 8:42:16pm

We have been disappointed with most of our so called conservative commentators over the past months. I will say that I have never, in 30 years of reading Sowell, ever felt that he was anything but ROCK SOLID.

Mr Sowell has my respect and admiration.

260 leftover54  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:12:55pm

re: #249 leftover54
Yes.
"This is a satire piece and clearly you have excited the racist & bigots. None of this is true and it is ridiculous that any of you idiots commenting think it is a truthful article."
Poor attempt at humor on my part.They're not all good...
well, some of them are good...ok, once in awhile I get a good one in there...no ? I don't ? Hmmmm. Well I can PROVE my humor has been apprecaited on some other sites... well they may not call it "humor"...they say "hey dude, uze CRAZY Man LOL !" and stuff like that...ok,ok,
maybe just "uze crazy man"...or just "dude, you're f*ckin' nuts"...but ya know, I know - they mean "nuts" as in "hey dude, uze CRAZY man !"...I think....what time is it ?...has it been 4 - 6 hours yet ? ...the pink one that says Sandoz...
yeah, thats it...
Stay away from me...

261 leftover54  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:16:24pm

Alrighty then...does this make up for it ?
G_d looks down from his throne and asks McCain, “Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?”
McCain takes a breath and then replies, “Well, my friend, I’ve dedicated my life to fighting for the betterment of my country and what is right.”
G_d looks down and then says, “You can sit to my left side.”
So, McCain takes his seat.
Then G_d asks the same question to Hillary, “Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?”
Hillary thinks for a second and then replies, “I think so because I have fought tirelessly for the rights of so many people for so long.”
G_d again looks down and this time says, “You can sit to my right side.”
Finally G_d turns to Barack Obama and asks, “Do you think you deserve to be in heaven?”
Obama smiles and replies, “I think you’re in my seat.”

batta BOOM !

262 Optimizer  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 9:48:48pm

re: #257 rexatosis

Can't we expect the Bradley/Hawthorne effect to be higher than the historical number you mention? This time we have the additional effect of "I don't want to sound racist, by saying I'm not voting for the black guy" going on, right? Or is that the presumed reason for BHO being the "beneficiary" of the effect to start with? You don't say why someone being surveyed would presume the surveyor wants to hear that they back BHO.

263 armaros  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:55:36pm

Have you guys seen this?

Democrats talking about the primaries. It sent a chill down my spine.

So sad so few see this as the real embodiment of the Ayers/ Daley / Acorn bag of tricks.

[Link: wewillnotbesilenced2008.com...]

264 Miss Molly  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:50pm

The Obama has declared ACORN a "distraction" but apparently a Federal Judge thinks otherwise and has ordered Ohio to fix this fraud problem with ACORN.

And, the Obama has chosen the radical left early on but now declares them all a "distraction" as well. I don't believe any of the polls either!

265 walahi  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:39:55am
Obama's support is disproportionately composed of young people who have no track record for voting. Many are likely to see the polls and decide The One doesn't need their vote to win.

The only problem I see with that is that the 'progressive youth' see this as a historic moment; a moment where they can look back on and say 'I was there when Almighty Barry was elected and the heavens opened and all the other religious hubbabaloo they associate with Obama.

Those of you with ideas for ads, try and make them and post them on youtube and the like. You can direct lizards to the link and then it will make the rounds. The more ammo the better.

Thanks to all those who are volunteering. Makes me a bit sad to be a resident of London. However, we will do our part and get the Conservative party to replace the disaster that is Labour.

Good Luck!

266 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:38:43am

In far off New Zealand we are doing just the opposite. We have a neo marxist incumbent Prime Minister who although knows policy inside out, looks mean, old and shell shocked with an approval rating of 34% and a centre-ist (supposedly right wing) self made millionaire who is telegenic but short on policy facts polling 48%. Their first debate went 2-1 to the right and Comrade Helen Clark is spewing bile about how the debate must have been fixed because she didn't win. Still after 9 long hard years of neo-Marxist rule during which massive surpluses were squander on 50% more public servants (the paper pushing rule making type) but not the service provider type (cops, soldiers, firefighters nurses doctors and such).

Now as the hard left are about to be thrown on the scrap heap they are smirking as they leave behind an economy that will be running deep in red ink for the next 10 years. See you yanks in 2016 at which time we can trade tales of woe!

The Aussies on the other hand under a conservative administration for a decade have LOTS of nuts stored up which the newly elected left will spend to shore up the economy whilst crowing how clever they are at spending the savings of the right! Oh well at least the Aussie economy will be OK.


Then again if the Obamination gets into power and wrecks the US economy to the extent that he is capable of doing then the recession becomes a decade long depression and ALL of us will pay for the short sighted-ness of many of you yanks with short attention spans and MTV attitudes to the world!


What did we ever do to deserve this?


Sheeeesh!

267 rexatosis  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:50am

re 262 Optimizer:

You have stated the reason for the Hawthorne Effect in this case, the assumption by the respondent that the "non-racist" answer of Obama is what the interviewer wants to hear.

As for the conservative estimates regarding the skewing of the polls, I would not pick the under for any of them if I were a gambling man.

268 Joel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:49am

Vote as if your life depended n it b/c in away it does. Also if McCain had the smarts and erudition that a Thoams Sowell has, this election would already be over.

269 Joel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #266 Aussie Infidel

Aussie Infidel - Hi long time no see. Can it be that Helen Clark (the most unkissable woman in New Zealand) might be reelected?

270 Joel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:01am

re: #259 maddogg

We have been disappointed with most of our so called conservative commentators over the past months. I will say that I have never, in 30 years of reading Sowell, ever felt that he was anything but ROCK SOLID.

Mr Sowell has my respect and admiration.

Thomas Sowell is one brilliant mind. George Will used to have a brilliant mind.

271 Joel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:08:11am

re: #167 twincitiesgirl

Don't forget the conservative intellectual Alan Keyes

.

Alan Keyes is a flake. He wasted a lot of time (just like Ron Paul this year ) taking up space at the Republican debates.

272 sealizard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:25:55am

Someone else may have already touched on this, but I'd like Mr. Sowell to look into Obama's association with Frank Marshall Davis, known communist. Davis was a friend of Obama's grandfather, possibly having known him in Kansas, and Davis relocated to Honolulu, where he grew to have great influence on the young Barack. Obama refers to him repeatedly in "Dreams from my Father", but only as "Frank". Obviously, he did not want it known his mentor was an avowed and well-known commie, so he could not use Frank's complete name. We cannot allow this Marxist-Socialist to be elected. It will be the end of America.

273 Ron Shaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 9:22:26am

re: #2 AndyMacOPThose on the left will not even hear or read about it and on the slimest of chances some receive exposure to it 'brothers, it don't mean a thing, it don't mean nothing' to quote some words from Hamburger Hill.

274 dexter1  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 10:39:34am

When it is expedient for him to do so, he throws his closest mentors and associates under the bus -- he will do the same to America

275 AZDave  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 11:33:02am
Obama could have allied himself with all sorts of other people. But, time and again, he allied himself with people who openly expressed their hatred of America.

Birds of a feather.

276 AZDave  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 11:34:41am

re: #2 AndyMacOP

Will anyone listen to this from the left?

Nope. Too busy celebrating.

277 AZDave  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 11:37:32am

re: #9 rabidfox

We are sooo in trouble - not just the 0bama but also Congress.

Trouble, hell, we're screwed and tattooed!

278 AZDave  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 11:45:54am

re: #35 Killgore Trout

No. Don't expect anyone from the center to listen either. Wright and Ayers connections fall on deaf ears.

Well, those with their heads up their ass won't be hearing much anyways.


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