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Open | Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:45:00 pm PDT

It’s a good idea for diplomats to keep their word in small matters. It makes the later complete betrayals more of a surprise.

John Barnes

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1 Macker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:45:40pm
2 pegcity  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:45:52pm

yay harper

3 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:47:59pm

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

4 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:48:49pm

McCain "talks tough"

Look at that first paragraph --

TOLEDO, Ohio, (AFP) - Republican John McCain has a third and final chance to debate his way back into contention when he faces his hard-charging White House rival Barack Obama in New York on Wednesday.

Back into contention, lol.

5 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:49:16pm

Canada remains Conservative -- although yet another Minority government.

I have not yet lived under a proper Conservative Majority. I would LOVE to see what one could do for my country.

GO Harper GO!

6 Macker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:49:57pm

re: #3 rawmuse

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

Yep: Here are the totals:

Conservatives: 141 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 143
Liberals: 74 Elected, 3 Leading. Total: 77
Bloc Québécois: 48 Elected, 1 Leading. Total: 49
New Democratic Party: 35 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 37
Independent: 2 Elected, 0 Leading. Total: 2

Grits Lost Big Time! Harper gets a stronger minority government.

7 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:51:35pm

re: #3 rawmuse

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

Indeed -- Harper is working wonders for the Conservatives.

Although, they say the main reason is because the liberal vote is split between the Liberals and the New Democrat Part (NDP) (read: left and farther left). Of course, Quebec stole a hell of a lot seats as usual with their Bloc Quebecois. The seperatist party that can never become a majority government, but loves to cause so many problems as a large minority that campaigns in only one of the 10 Canadian provinces.

8 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:51:41pm

re: #6 Macker

Congratulations! God save the Queen.

9 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:52:08pm

re: #3 rawmuse

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

And so many here want to elect an empty suit Marxist. *Yeesh*

10 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:07pm

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

And so many here want to elect an empty suit Marxist. *Yeesh*


The Marxist-Leninist Party candidate in my riding got 139 votes! *shudders*

(YES! Canada has a Marxist Leninist Party! Even though not a single candidate one)

11 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:20pm

re: #10 Joo-LiZ

won* PIMF

12 Macker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:26pm

re: #8 rawmuse

Congratulations! God save the Queen.

Actually, I'm not Canadian. But I love and give a damn about Canada anyways. My Canadian Friends are quite surprised I know more about their politics than some of their OWN friends and neighbours.

13 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:53pm

re: #5 Joo-LiZ

Canada remains Conservative -- although yet another Minority government.

I have not yet lived under a proper Conservative Majority. I would LOVE to see what one could do for my country.

GO Harper GO!

Looks like that is a good possibility if Harper keeps up the fight. Even half a loaf is better than watching someone else eating a sandwich.

14 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:54:11pm

re: #12 Macker

Actually, I'm not Canadian. But I love and give a damn about Canada anyways. My Canadian Friends are quite surprised I know more about their politics than some of their OWN friends and neighbours.

I appreciate that -- I was looking at Ace of Spades, and the contempt they had for Canada was disappointing to say the least.

15 Tamron  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:55:05pm

Re: Obama's stance on abortion:

April 4, 2002: OBAMA CAUGHT ON TAPE ARGUING AGAINST GIVING MEDICAL ATTENTION TO ABORTED BABIES WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.

Obama opposed SB1663 arguing he had "confidence" that the abortionist - who was invested in attempting to kill the child pre-delivery - would not mind revealing his or her botch by calling a 2nd physician to ensure the child was given proper medical attention and revived if possible.

Obama thought it remarkable to suspect an abortionist of having a subjective medical opinion about his new second patient. It didn't occur to Obama that the abortionist might also be invested in seeing the baby dead to preclude malpractice lawsuits down the road if the baby were found not to have pre-birth diagnosed defects, an overriding reason for these late-term induced labor abortions.

But Obama's most telling statement from the clip was to say this bill "is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion."

In other words, if a baby were to survive his or her abortion, the death plan marked out for this child should be carried out nonetheless.


Read the transcript, and then click on the audio link to hear him say it in his own words.
.

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:55:10pm

re: #10 Joo-LiZ

The Marxist-Leninist Party candidate in my riding got 139 votes! *shudders*

(YES! Canada has a Marxist Leninist Party! Even though not a single candidate one)

You want one? We have a slightly used one you can have, real cheap. ;)

17 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:57:25pm

re: #15 Tamron

In other words, if a baby were to survive his or her abortion, the death plan marked out for this child should be carried out nonetheless.

Egads, another Final Solution.

18 Syrah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:57:34pm
It’s a good idea for diplomats to keep their word in small matters. It makes the later complete betrayals more of a surprise.

— John Barnes

Like something out of a "Retief" novel.

They are very good books. I recommend them.

19 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:58:46pm

re: #16 FurryOldGuyJeans

You want one? We have a slightly used one you can have, real cheap. ;)

Hell's bells, lets raise money, I'd pay to get rid of 'em.

20 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:00:24pm
21 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:01:34pm

Go Canada!

22 Candyxman  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:01:59pm

mmm tasty liberals

23 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:02:06pm

re: #4 TheMatrix31

McCain "talks tough"

Look at that first paragraph --


Back into contention, lol.

So, was it Reagan trailing Carter by this margin, and GWB trailing Al Gore by this margin, at this stage prior to the election? I thought that's what I heard Bill O'Reilly saying on his radio program tonight, but I mostly tune him out so I just barely caught it.

I don't know if the situation is as dire as the media would like us to believe. That said, I hope McCain gets the TKO tomorrow night.

24 tokyobk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:01pm

Speaking of fish. A pretty funny review of London Take-away sushi by a master chef, trying his best not to go scatological.

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:07pm

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

26 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:07pm

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

27 Syrah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:38pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Acorns.

28 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:04:23pm

re: #20 rawmuse

US Communists say their time has come.

Wow.

"There is no communist running for the White House and the Communist Party does not endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Yet many staff here wore his picture on lapel buttons, while Republican John McCain was relegated to a box of tissues -- the tissues being pulled through his mouth."

I thought they always endorsed the Democrat in the presidential election. I guess I was mistaken about that. I thought I read something about Obama on their website though, indicating that he wasn't perfect, but that he was basically their guy.

29 suboptimal  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:04:26pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

How to cry "racism"?

/

30 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:04:39pm

re: #20 rawmuse

US Communists say their time has come.

One of their's is soooo close.

31 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:05:31pm

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

32 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:06:34pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

I am thinking Belize.

33 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:06:40pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

No. We'd be the wrong skin hue for the refugees they consider to be chic.

34 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:07:48pm

re: #15 Tamron

Re: Obama's stance on abortion:

April 4, 2002: OBAMA CAUGHT ON TAPE ARGUING AGAINST GIVING MEDICAL ATTENTION TO ABORTED BABIES WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.


Read the transcript, and then click on the audio link to hear him say it in his own words.
.

Ugh, I tried reading the transcript and I want to reach through the screen and slap him.

USE LESS WORDS
SPEAK IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU

It's typical Obama stutter-speak. Even back then. Bleah.

35 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:16pm

re: #29 suboptimal

How to cry "racism"?

/

Unless BHO hits McCain or calls him a grumpy old white guy, it will be another debate where McCain wins on points and loses on style--IOW, a win for BHO

36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:22pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Change you can be deceived by.

37 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:51pm

Re: CPUSA endorsement - I don't think this is where I saw it, but Charles had it here. I looked at this endorsement when I was checking out the New Party stuff last week.

38 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:58pm

re: #28 capitalist piglet

Wow.

"There is no communist running for the White House and the Communist Party does not endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Yet many staff here wore his picture on lapel buttons, while Republican John McCain was relegated to a box of tissues -- the tissues being pulled through his mouth."

I thought they always endorsed the Democrat in the presidential election. I guess I was mistaken about that. I thought I read something about Obama on their website though, indicating that he wasn't perfect, but that he was basically their guy.

They endorses Obama we had a thread on it.

39 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:09:22pm

re: #36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Change you can be deceived by.

Funny. The slogan Nixon used in his first campaign called for Change.

40 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:09:50pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Eat or be eaten.

41 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:11:31pm

LOL. I'm thinking of wearing my Nobama shirt to school tomorrow. Good idea?

42 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:11:36pm

Who do you think is more right-leaning? Berlusconi or Harper?

/always wanted a place along the Amalfi coast.

43 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:12:30pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Eat or be eaten.

Since BHO is into wealth redistribution, how about "Every Man a King"

This was some scary shit, even for the 30's.

44 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:12:32pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

Yes - when the Red Sox win the world series...LOL.

45 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:12:48pm

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

Sarkozy

46 NeoKong  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:14:21pm

...

47 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:14:37pm

re: #43 calcajun

Dig the all-girl band.

48 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:14:51pm

re: #46 NeoKong

No they'll find a way to blame this on Republicans.

49 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:15:05pm

re: #46 NeoKong

FBI Reported to Begin Probe of Florida Congressman

Ha Ha!


This is the jerk who took Mark Foley's seat after his scandal.

Will he resign...?

When the Red Sox win the World Series.

50 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:15:10pm

re: #32 rawmuse

I am thinking Belize.

Belize - are you nuts?
They don't have black flies and mosquitoes there!
LOL.

51 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:15:11pm

And more to make ya'll sleep well. See, history does repeat itself.

52 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:16:25pm

re: #50 sparrowlake

They speak English and you can buy a passport. Not cheap, but doable.
The weather doesn't suck, except for the occasional hurricane.

53 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:16:25pm

re: #44 sparrowlake

Yes - when the Red Sox win the world series...LOL.


Someone's not a particularly good student of recent baseball history. At least the part before this week....

/Good thing you didn't say 'When the Bruins win the Stanley Cup'

54 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:17:18pm

re: #34 Pawn of the Oppressor

Ugh, I tried reading the transcript and I want to reach through the screen and slap him.

USE LESS WORDS
SPEAK IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU

It's typical Obama stutter-speak. Even back then. Bleah.

To be fair, would you want to be understood clearly if your message was, "If a baby comes out alive during an abortion, no doctor should be allowed to help it survive: it has to be left to die in a specimen bucket"?

55 spidly  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:17:23pm

re: #46 NeoKong

56 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:17:29pm

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

or some self predicating "When the Cubs win the World Series" :(

57 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:18:39pm

re: #46 NeoKong

Mahoney's problems to one side, will anyone hold Rahm Emmanuel and Nancy Pelosi responsible for helping Mahoney in covering up the scandal?

58 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:18:49pm

re: #55 spidly

democrat...he won't resign.
Isn't William Jefferson (D-LA) still wandering around?

He's being treated for frostbite......

59 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:19:11pm

re: #55 spidly

democrat...he won't resign.
Isn't William Jefferson (D-LA) still wandering around?

Yep... going into a runoff election.

60 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:20:03pm

re: #54 stuiec

To be fair, would you want to be understood clearly if your message was, "If a baby comes out alive during an abortion, no doctor should be allowed to help it survive: it has to be left to die in a specimen bucket"?

This was not the position I knew!

61 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:20:30pm

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

Someone's not a particularly good student of recent baseball history. At least the part before this week....

/Good thing you didn't say 'When the Bruins win the Stanley Cup'

LOL. Or the Leafs - c'mon up!

62 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:20:36pm

re: #57 stuiec

Mahoney's problems to one side, will anyone hold Rahm Emmanuel and Nancy Pelosi responsible for helping Mahoney in covering up the scandal?

Will the media go wall to wall with the Mahoney scandal just be the election like they did with Foley.

63 saltmarsh  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:21:12pm

:Mr. McCain, are you prepared for tomorrow night's debate against SENATOR Obama?

:Where's he at, where's he at. Lemme attem, lemme attem. I'll tear em apart, I'll tear em limb from limb. I'll kick his ass till his nose bleeds and then kick him for bleeding.

:He's right over there Mr. McCain.....

:My Friends....

/I hope not

64 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:21:47pm

re: #50 sparrowlake

Belize - are you nuts?
They don't have black flies and mosquitoes there!
LOL.

They sure as hell have mosquitoes there.

10 Wild Things to Watch Out For

As a sub-tropical and tropical country, Belize is rich in life forms, including some that are not very nice to human beings. Fortunately, most visitors to Belize aren't bothered by these denizens of the wild, save for the occasional mozzie or no-see-um bites.

# 1 No-see-ums (sandflies, sandfleas, midge gnats, purrujas)

These buggers are twice as mean as mozzies -- watch out for them near mangrove swamps and on a windless day on the coast or cayes; Avon Skin-So-Soft may help some.

# 2 Mozzies

Some mosquitos in Belize do carry dangerous diseases including malaria and dengue fever. Many visitors to Belize are surprised, though, that mosquitoes are not as bad as they feared. The nearly constant winds on the cayes keeps mozzies at bay, and much of Cayo District escapes the plague of these bugs. They are worse in the late summer after periods of rain, and in southern Belize (which gets more rain than any other part of the country.)

# 3 Botfly

This little horror, happily not a problem for most visitors, gets the help of a mosquito to place its egg under your skin which can grow to the size of your thumb-- yecch! Lure the "doctor fly" out with a slab of fatback or bacon placed over the entrance; kill it by smothering it to death with vaseline or glue; or apply the sap of the bot killer tree, or some say, a piece of tobacco.

# 4 Yellow-jawed tommygoff (fer-de-lance)

This highly poisonous snake attacks aggressively. It has heat-seeking fangs and can strike accurately even in the dark. Avoid it, and if by rare chance you are bitten get medical attention immediately. Belize has about 20 types of poisonous snakes of which "only" nine are deadly.

# 5 "Alligators"

Called thus by many Belizeans, but Belize actually has only crocodiles, the larger American and the smaller Morelet's. Occasional attacks on humans are recorded in Belize.

# 6 Scorpions

These are common all over Belize. They are often present in the walls of buildings (avoid leaving wet towels out) or in thatch roofs. Their sting hurts, usually not much worse than the sting of a wasp, and isn't fatal.

# 7 Warries (White-Lipped Peccary)

Peccaries are related to pigs. White-Lipped Peccaries, now rare in Belize, travel in large herds. If you hear loud bellowing, screeching and tooth-clacking (and don't happen to be in Big Daddy's late at night), climb the nearest tree, as warries can be hazardous to your health.

# 8 Killer bees

The stings of Africanized bees hurt no more than those of ordinary honeybees, but killer bees are far more aggressive and ill-tempered. They have killed many cattle and other livestock in Belize, and in Costa Rica at least 16 human deaths have been attributed to killer bee attacks. Virtually all the honeybees you see in Belize are now Africanized and are present in most areas, even Ambergris Caye. If you stumble on a hive, try to get under a roof (bees usually won't follow you under a shelter) or into water.

# 9 Tarantulas

You may see one of these furry balls of fun on the rainforest floor or even on a village sidewalk. Their bite can be painful but isn't serious. Some people keep these as pets.

# 10 Jaws and other sea critters

Belize has all the usual denizens of the deep -- sharks, stingrays, barracuda, moray eels, fire coral, etc. Most of these are as harmless as sheepdogs, as least according to the guys at the dive shop.

Honorable Mention: Vampire bats

Belize does have vampire bats, whose bite may cause rabies, but unless you sleep outside a lot without clothes on, don't worry. Belize's many species of bats do worlds of good, from eating mozzies to pollinating fruit.

65 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:22:41pm

re: #62 jcm

Will the media go wall to wall with the Mahoney scandal just be the election like they did with Foley.

That would be... no.

66 ggt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:23:26pm

Hey Early Morning/Late Night Lizards! I haven't slept yet.

What's going on?

67 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:24:28pm

re: #65 stuiec

That would be... no.

But, but they're unbiased!
//////////////////////////// extreme

68 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:24:37pm

re: #18 Syrah
All I remember is that they were very funny.

69 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:24:42pm

re: #60 Pawn of the Oppressor

This was not the position I knew!

I am not sure I can wrap my mind around someone who looks at a baby and thinks, "Punishment."

70 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:25:21pm

ACORN goes under the bus:

"There is an ACORN organization in Chicago," Obama continued. "They have been active. As an elected official, I've had interactions with them. But they are not advising our campaign. We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.

71 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:27:21pm

re: #69 stuiec

I am not sure I can wrap my mind around someone who looks at a baby and thinks, "Punishment."

Rinse enough diapers, get puked on enough, get woke up at night enough..........

*Just kidding folks*

72 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:28:12pm

Oh, is that so, Barack? So I guess you don't need them to help shape the agenda once you're President, right?

I'm going to have gray hairs and high blood pressure. Someone stop me.

73 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:28:20pm

re: #64 stuiec

Keeps the riff-raff out.

74 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:29:27pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation
I think the pendulum has to swing right allot more for Canada to be as conservative as America. However they are at least going in the right direction while we seem to be swinging left.

75 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:29:45pm

re: #3 rawmuse

Yes we did

76 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:29:55pm

Morning all, finally checking in. Well I talked the GF into voting. Unfortunately she voted Liberal. Well nobodys perfect I guess.

77 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:30:06pm

re: #64 stuiec

Definitely go to Belize./

78 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:30:10pm

re: #72 TheMatrix31

Nice friend ACORN has in 0bama, huh?

79 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:30:48pm

re: #7 Joo-LiZ

Harper's performance in the debates was bad but hey, he is way better than the Commies.

80 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:31:11pm

re: #74 rancher

I think the pendulum has to swing right allot more for Canada to be as conservative as America. However they are at least going in the right direction while we seem to be swinging left.

Canada could easily be as fiscally conservative as the US or more so. But we could never be as socially conservative, particularly as long as Quebec is part of Canada. We have a different culture and traditions.

81 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:31:27pm

re: #32 rawmuse

Stay where you are and fight back.

82 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:31:50pm

re: #80 Moe Katz

Not to mention NDP commies.

83 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:32:19pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

ACORN goes under the bus:

LIAR ............ here is a copy of a flyer they put out in Ohio ......

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Law Firm Resume from Miner, et al firm .......

[Link: www.lawmbg.com...]

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.

84 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:33:37pm

re: #81 winston06

Stay where you are and fight back.

OK, maybe just a vacation condo, then.

85 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:33:42pm

re: #83 JacksonTn

I screwed up that post like crazy ...... anyway the two links are to show ....... once again ...... LIAR

86 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:34:34pm

re: #82 winston06

I still call Jack Layton a traitor. A lot of people even agree with me.

/some of those being liberals.

87 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:33pm

Some folks in WA found their cajones.

Olympia port to sue anti-war protesters

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - More than 60 anti-war demonstrators were arrested last November at the Port of Olympia protesting Fort Lewis-Iraq war shipments.

Port commissioners are angry that none of the arrests have yet led to criminal convictions. So commissioners voted Monday to file civil lawsuits against people who block roads, damage public property and interfere with port business.

88 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:37pm

re: #82 winston06

Not to mention NDP commies.

We have the NDP because they have deep roots in our culture. The old stock founding peoples of Canada are more collectivist than the Americans. However, some of the newer immigrant groups such as those from Asia could tilt the balance toward the right. Our conservatism is still likely to remain more similar to that of Europeans, though, because we have a different history from the Americans. My two cents' worth anyway.

89 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:48pm

re: #83 JacksonTn

Oh- I know he's lying his ass off. In a way, it's a good thing. We can show he's lying. He can't refute cold, hard facts, but he can try.

90 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:57pm

re: #78 Sharmuta

Nice friend ACORN has in 0bama, huh?

You've Got A Friend In Me

91 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:37:04pm

re: #86 BlueCanuck

I still call Jack Layton a traitor. A lot of people even agree with me.

/some of those being liberals.

Calling him a traitor is simply stating the obvious.

92 Tamron  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:38:00pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

ACORN goes under the bus:

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.


How does that relate to this video, where Obama states that the FIRST 100 DAYS AFTER HE IS ELECTED, ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL HELP SHAPE HIS ADMINISTRATION.
.

93 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:39:00pm

Look at this map ........ strategy or just looking out for all those poor disenfranchised voters (well at least the ones in the swing states) ........ COME ON FEDS STEP IT UP ....

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

94 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:39:05pm

re: #86 BlueCanuck

I still call Jack Layton a traitor. A lot of people even agree with me.
/some of those being liberals.

Layton attended the Dem convention and took notes. He then tried to peddle the BHO hope and change message up here. Thank goodness it didn't fly.

95 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:41:36pm

re: #91 Moe Katz

Calling him a traitor is simply stating the obvious.


True, but having people agree is the big point I think.

re: #94 sparrowlake

Heard him in the last debate. Tried reaching through the monitor everytime he called Harper's administration Bush lite.

96 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:45:09pm

re: #95 BlueCanuck

True, but having people agree is the big point I think.

re: #94 sparrowlake

Heard him in the last debate. Tried reaching through the monitor everytime he called Harper's administration Bush lite.

He's a POS. I was raised NDP, but it wasn't like that with Tommy Douglas and David Lewis. They were on the side of western civilization.

97 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:46:19pm

re: #92 Tamron

How does that relate to this video, where Obama states that the FIRST 100 DAYS AFTER HE IS ELECTED, ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL HELP SHAPE HIS ADMINISTRATION.
.

Half the fun will be watching how he tries to spin his way out of the hole he's dug.

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:46:58pm

re: #90 TheMatrix31

You've Got A Friend In Me

I love Pixar movies! Thanks.

99 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:47:40pm

The good news is that right now I get the NHL network and the free trail version of the NHL Center Ice ticket.

However, this also means that along with the CBC or Rogers coverage, I've been treated to Green party adverts. For example, 30 seconds of some dour, frumpy bespectacled-looking woman on a bus going on and on about the gap between the wealthy and the poor in Canada. Apparently working Canadians just aren't doing their part and need to pay more taxes for the 'greater good' (seemed to be the jist of what she's getting at).

I'm sure Canucks like Hugh Rowland or Alex Debagorski would be thrilled to get paid less and less for driving 18-wheelers across frozen lakes or the Arctic Ocean to help support the drug addicts and welfare cheats of Montreal or Vancouver.

100 Tamron  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:49:21pm

Hey, check this out:

BIG DOG ROBOT


The Most Advanced Quadruped Robot on Earth
BigDog is the alpha male of the Boston Dynamics family of robots. It is a quadruped robot that walks, runs, and climbs on rough terrain and carries heavy loads. BigDog is powered by a gasoline engine that drives a hydraulic actuation system. BigDog's legs are articulated like an animal’s, and have compliant elements that absorb shock and recycle energy from one step to the next. BigDog is the size of a large dog or small mule, measuring 1 meter long, 0.7 meters tall and 75 kg weight.

BigDog has an on-board computer that controls locomotion, servos the legs and handles a wide variety of sensors. BigDog’s control system manages the dynamics of its behavior to keep it balanced, steer, navigate, and regulate energetics as conditions vary. Sensors for locomotion include joint position, joint force, ground contact, ground load, a laser gyroscope, and a stereo vision system. Other sensors focus on the internal state of BigDog, monitoring the hydraulic pressure, oil temperature, engine temperature, rpm, battery charge and others.

In separate trials, BigDog runs at 4 mph, climbs slopes up to 35 degrees, walks across rubble, and carries a 340 lb load.


This thing looks creepy, but it really would be handy in bringing a quartered moose out of the bush...
.

101 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:50:14pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

I think McCain should toss him a crate of dynomite whiles in that hole. He needs to get deeper I think.

102 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:50:39pm

re: #80 Moe Katz

Canada could easily be as fiscally conservative as the US or more so.


Especially after what we did in the last two weeks, lol!

But we could never be as socially conservative, particularly as long as Quebec is part of Canada. We have a different culture and traditions.


Ah, that wonderful French Culture.

103 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:53:53pm

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

The good news is that the Green Party didn't win a single seat. That also includes their party leader.

104 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:54:11pm

re: #102 rancher

Ah, that wonderful French Culture.

Yes, but the old-stock Anglo Canadians are also a bit more like the British than you Americans are---more statist, less individualist. Canada started out as an alliance between the conquered French colonists and people of British descent, of whom a large proportion were originally your Loyalists from the American Revolution.

105 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:57:32pm

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

However, this also means that along with the CBC or Rogers coverage, I've been treated to Green party adverts. For example, 30 seconds of some dour, frumpy bespectacled-looking woman on a bus going on and on about the gap between the wealthy and the poor in Canada. Apparently working Canadians just aren't doing their part and need to pay more taxes for the 'greater good' (seemed to be the jist of what she's getting at).

That was Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party. She has never been elected and she lost this time too. The Green Party has no elected members of Parliament. They got about 9% of the popular vote (including a lot of strategic or protest votes), but elected zero members. They are so far a harmless party, and actually serve a useful purpose by helping to split the leftard vote.

106 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:59:39pm

re: #105 sparrowlake

Some more good news I think. Toronto elected five more Conservatives compared with the last election. I think at this rate we may get some more in the next one too.

107 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:59:59pm

re: #93 JacksonTn

Look at this map ........ strategy or just looking out for all those poor disenfranchised voters (well at least the ones in the swing states) ........ COME ON FEDS STEP IT UP ....

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

I'm in NM and plan to vote first thing in the morning October 18th. I may be paranoid but I want to vote before someone votes for me.

108 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:00:26am

Apparently I made my Grandma cry because I told her she's crazy or whatever. I just saw my brother's text message. "You made Grandma cry, next time just brush her comments off, she doesn't know anything."

I responded with "I don't care. She offended me too. How dare she tell me that I don't know anything just because I'm 20 and that I basically couldn't hold our Uncle's jock? Fuck that."

109 ggt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:01:27am

There is a hurricane hitting Puerto Rico.

why is the music on the weather channel so lame? I half expect to hear the "girl from impanema (sp?)

110 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:05:23am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

I'm sure Canucks like Hugh Rowland or Alex Debagorski would be thrilled to get paid less and less for driving 18-wheelers across frozen lakes or the Arctic Ocean to help support the drug addicts and welfare cheats of Montreal or Vancouver.


Those guys are nuts, don'tcha know? Hey, you got to spread the wealth to help those behind you.

111 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:06:20am

re: #106 BlueCanuck

Some more good news I think. Toronto elected five more Conservatives compared with the last election. I think at this rate we may get some more in the next one too.

Yep, we're slowly hemming them in.
Very slowly.
LOL.

112 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:06:33am

re: #109 ggt

There is a hurricane hitting Puerto Rico.

why is the music on the weather channel so lame? I half expect to hear the "girl from impanema (sp?)

I think there's a bit of a bossa nova revival right now. Maybe that's what you're hearing that reminds you of "Girl From Ipanema."

113 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:08:13am

re: #111 sparrowlake

Yep, we're slowly hemming them in.
Very slowly.
LOL.


We could do with fewer remarks from Harper like the one about the economic crisis being a good opportunity to buy bargain stocks. Sheesh. For a guy that was raised in an NDP family....

114 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:10:21am

re: #108 TheMatrix31

Oh, boy!

While I agree with you, I have to tell you- you're going to have to apologize. That's just the way a lot of male-female relationships work. Let me tell you a little story-

For awhile, my liberal Uncle and I had a duplex we were renting together. We had agreed we would not discuss politics while we were roomies. So one night, while in my room, he brings up Clinton and Palestinians. Oh man- I got so pissed I told him to leave my room. Next day- I had an apology card. That's just the way it works.

Tell Gram you love her, you're sorry, but you still feel you're right. And remember this advice about women in the future too.

115 ggt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:10:26am

re: #112 Moe Katz

I thought it was called "elevator music" --it has a real name/category?

Anyway, because of it, I think I can go to sleep now.

BTW, the temperature is 58 degrees in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland right now and we have a 60% chance of rain tomorrow.

weet dreams.

116 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:10:49am

re: #109 ggt

There is a hurricane hitting Puerto Rico.

why is the music on the weather channel so lame? I half expect to hear the "girl from impanema (sp?)

I happen to love "The Girl From Ipanema" esp. the Getz version.

117 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:11:32am

re: #104 Moe Katz

Yes, but the old-stock Anglo Canadians are also a bit more like the British than you Americans are---more statist, less individualist. Canada started out as an alliance between the conquered French colonists and people of British descent, of whom a large proportion were originally your Loyalists from the American Revolution.

Old stock Anglo is a quickly shrinking minority and their culture is quickly receding before the endless non-European waves of immigrants.

118 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:13:01am

re: #114 Sharmuta

Oh, boy!

While I agree with you, I have to tell you- you're going to have to apologize. That's just the way a lot of male-female relationships work. Let me tell you a little story-

For awhile, my liberal Uncle and I had a duplex we were renting together. We had agreed we would not discuss politics while we were roomies. So one night, while in my room, he brings up Clinton and Palestinians. Oh man- I got so pissed I told him to leave my room. Next day- I had an apology card. That's just the way it works.

Tell Gram you love her, you're sorry, but you still feel you're right. And remember this advice about women in the future too.

Yeah, I will. But I don't understand why I have to be the one to apologize. I think she should be apologetic as well for discounting my opinion because of my age and saying what she said.

I don't know where she is, they should have told me before she left to go back home.

119 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:13:14am

re: #84 rawmuse

Francis Ford Coppola owns a couple of resorts in Belize. Apparently he got into the business when he needed jungle locations and lodging for Apocalypse Now. (I thought that was shot in the Philippines?)

120 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:13:19am
121 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:14:37am

re: #117 sparrowlake

Old stock Anglo is a quickly shrinking minority and their culture is quickly receding before the endless non-European waves of immigrants.

Yes, very true. The Conservatives are overtaking the Liberals' popularity with this new group by a lot of careful focusing and fine-tuning of the message.

122 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:16:05am

re: #116 rawmuse

I happen to love "The Girl From Ipanema" esp. the Getz version.

Me too. Getz/Gilberto.

123 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:16:07am

re: #108 TheMatrix31

I told you: tell her you've changed your mind about Obama because he's so committed to standing up to Russia, he's pledged huge military aid packages to Turkey and Azerbaijan -- and now you're behind him 100 percent.

124 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:17:24am

re: #123 stuiec

Heh!

125 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:18:00am

re: #123 stuiec

I told you: tell her you've changed your mind about Obama because he's so committed to standing up to Russia, he's pledged huge military aid packages to Turkey and Azerbaijan -- and now you're behind him 100 percent.

LOL. Might as well. It's not like she knows anything.

126 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:19:05am

re: #116 rawmuse

I happen to love "The Girl From Ipanema" esp. the Getz version.

Try the Sergio Mendes.

127 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:22:21am

re: #125 TheMatrix31

I am sure she knows that any friend of the Turks and Azeris is no friend of the Armenians.

128 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:23:11am

re: #122 Moe Katz

Astrud Gilberto has such a wonderful, unusual voice.

129 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:23:59am

obama youth parade

[Link: tubervision.com...]

and the after party ......

[Link: tubervision.com...]

I hope they show this much enthusiasm in going to the polls ....

130 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:24:10am

re: #126 sparrowlake

You are talkin' my lingo there. I am hip to all things Brazil, since the first recordings.

131 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:26:13am

re: #128 stuiec

Astrud Gilberto has such a wonderful, unusual voice.

Here's an example of revival bossa nova, with Bebel Gilberto, the daughter of Joao.

132 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:27:38am

Oops forgot the link

133 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:27:51am

re: #119 stuiec

Most of it was shot in the Phillipines, yes.

134 Ledger1  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:28:14am

Iowahawk on the nutroots disgraceful behavior:

[Picture of C*nt Couple at rally]

Hi undecided voters! Yes, we know what you're probably thinking: "hey, it's those two smirking hipster *ssholes in the 'Sarah Palin Is a C---' t shirts." We also realize that you probably find our brand of narcissistic street theater loathsome and tedious… No rational human being could be blamed for wanting us to just shut the f*ck up, finish our bottled water, and go away. Luckily, there's an easy way you can make that happen: vote for Barack Obama.

We know what you're thinking -- "that sounds awesome, but what about the angry right wingers? Won't they suddenly start storming congressional hearings and vandalizing military recruiting stations? Won't they start producing Obama assassination fantasy plays at the local college?" Don't worry, as members of the incoming Administration, we will identify any potential troublemakers and prosecute them to the full extent of President Obama's new civility laws. And with the re-establishment of the Fairness Doctrine, you won't have to worry about accidentally tuning into right wing hate radio.

Vote or Obama or else

135 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:28:29am

ggt doesn't know what he's missing.

136 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:30:42am

re: #70 Sharmuta

Why did he pay them $800,000 then?

137 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:30:51am

re: #134 Ledger1

heh, I like the last line. "And like the computer guy says, It's not a bug it's a feature."

/had to laugh or I would have cried.

138 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:31:34am

Bebel and Joao Gilberto

139 gmsc  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:31:43am

More economic knowledge and wisdom can be found in this 8 minute Warner Brothers cartoon than can be found in 2 years of Obama's campaigning: Yankee Dood It

140 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:32:35am

re: #136 MrSnuggles

Why did he pay them $800,000 then?

Damn fine question, MrSnuggles.

Chances of that question being asked at the debate- 0%.

141 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:32:45am
142 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:33:03am

Bebel and Joao Gilberto.

143 neocon hippie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:33:40am

re: #129 JacksonTn

Where was this?

144 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:35:02am

Now playing on board the 127th Emperor Hetto*

Irodori-Kodo
(Taiko drums, if this doesn't get your pulse rate up you are probably already dead or, worse, a metrosexual.)

*Bannership of the Lizard invasion fleet, see World War by Harry Turtledove.

145 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:35:25am

re: #108 TheMatrix31

My grandmother-in-law is a nutjob anti-bush hater that goes on long endless rants, everyone just ignores her. I SOOOOOOO Want to say something but my wife would kill me.

146 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:39:32am

Blame it on the Bossa Nova!
Good night folks.

147 Zimriel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:40:47am

Hmm. The "old stock" in Canada really depends on which province.

Saskatchewan took in Scandis (/ace) and so is more collectivist. However it is also very small.

Alberta took in Scots-Irish. I've heard some wags call it "North Texas".

148 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:42:00am

Interesting little story- at least I think so.

Two weeks ago, two of my big bosses were sitting in one of their's office, and we're all chatting. Somehow politics comes up, and I go ahead and mention that I don't think 0bama will be friendly to business. Well- one boss was nodding his head, listening. The other seemed put off- didn't look at me, and overall gave me an 0bama-supporting vibe.

Well- yesterday, I run into him and he was all, "Hi, Shar! (work chit-chat) Have a great day, Shar!". I think 0bama lost my boss' vote with the business tax. Heh.

149 pegcity  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:43:02am

re: #147 Zimriel

Here in manitoba most european descendents are Ukranian

150 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:43:43am

re: #139 gmsc

There's another one that explains investing in the stock market as well. Elmer Fudd and Sylvester are in it. Slyvester has a lot of money from an estate and is trying to get it to spend with his friends. Wish I could remember the name of it.

151 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:44:27am

re: #143 neocon hippie

Where was this?

I am assuming the first two are from Seattle as the one below is ...... which is totally child abuse ........

152 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:46:40am

re: #147 Zimriel

Hmm. The "old stock" in Canada really depends on which province.

Saskatchewan took in Scandis (/ace) and so is more collectivist. However it is also very small.

Alberta took in Scots-Irish. I've heard some wags call it "North Texas".

Yup, it's where I live and it could be seen as that for sure. There are a good number of Ukrainians here as well especially past Edmonton going north. Although, our BBQ sucks in comparison.

153 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:57:29am

I really hate this election ......... the Obama kids videos have done it for me ....

154 gmsc  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:57:33am

re: #150 BlueCanuck

There's another one that explains investing in the stock market as well. Elmer Fudd and Sylvester are in it. Slyvester has a lot of money from an estate and is trying to get it to spend with his friends. Wish I could remember the name of it.

You mean Heir Conditioned?

155 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:02:30am

re: #154 gmsc

I think that's the one, unfortunately my browser won't load it.

/hate IE 6 and my employers. ;)

156 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:03:20am

re: #153 JacksonTn

I really hate this election ......... the Obama kids videos have done it for me ....

I hate the use of children in adult matters.
Parents Pimping Out Their Kids.
/or child abuse..........

157 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:07:24am

In 2004 ACORN said your vote was worth ....... $ 2.00 ..... today with inflation ..... who knows .....

ACORN FRAUD IN 2004 FLORIDA - $2.00 PER :

Florida ACORN also registered thousands of felons — who, under Florida law, are ineligible to vote. They can, technically, apply for a restoration of civil rights; according to former Florida ACORN worker Mac Stuart — who has filed a whistleblower lawsuit against his ex-employer — ACORN exploited this hope in order to get felons to sign voter-registration cards. "We'd go up to them and say, 'Want your civil rights restored?' That's the pitch we were using. But those forms are not worth the paper they're printed on — there hasn't been any instance of clemency under the last two governors," Stuart claims. The forms became doubly worthless after Florida ACORN was through with them: "The restoration-of-civil-rights forms would go into the garbage," Stuart says. The voter-registration forms, however, were kept safe — as they were worth much more.

That's because each registration played a valuable part in Floridians For All's alleged pay-per-voter scheme. Stuart claims that Florida ACORN paid workers $2 for each voter registration they collected, and claims he has receipts to prove it. While it is permissible to pay an individual to register voters, "paying workers per registration," explains EPI spokesman Mike Burita, "is a felony in Florida — counted on a per-violation basis — so there could be thousands of crimes here."

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Good Night Lizards .......

158 gmsc  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:11:29am

re: #155 BlueCanuck

I think that's the one, unfortunately my browser won't load it.

/hate IE 6 and my employers. ;)

I'm pretty sure it is. Sylvester inherits a fortune, Elmer Fudd wants him to invest it properly, and the neighborhood alley cats are trying to get it (including "Charlie" who poses as a salesman for the "Hi Ho Silver Cleaning Company of Walla Walla, Washington"). Elmer explains the purpose and benefits of investing with a film, and Sylvester sneaks the money away and is ready to hand it over to the cats. The alley cats, who have also been watching the film, chastise Sylvester, and accuse him of trying to wreck the economy, so Sylvester hands over the money to be invested.

You know, I wonder how many Obama voters would be astounded by even the basic economic knowledge in Heir Conditioned and Yankee Dood It?

159 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:18:59am

Its too bad that cartoons these days don't have intelligence underlying their childishness. Where are kids supposed to learn about hard work, effort, and delayed gratification if they are taught nothing but "equality", "fairness", and instant gratification in public schools? They are taught NOT to work hard, that they can be lazy and finish last but still be given what everyone that works hard is given. And we wonder why Obama is so popular with the young people. Unfortunately I am one of them... and I still don't get it!

160 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:19:10am

Transcribing stuff is really, really annoying.

161 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:28:49am

re: #159 MrSnuggles

At the moment, we have to rely mostly on books to teach our kids our values. Hopefully, at some point, conservatives will put together an entertainment group to produce such things for our kids.

However- I would like to say that, imo, Pixar does produce quality films that show our underlying values. And there is the Veggie Tales videos. So, we're not completely without media.

162 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:37:35am

Quiet in here tonight. Or I just have nothing to say.

163 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:43:48am

As Campaign’s Intensity Peaks, Interest in Big 3's Evening News Continues to Wane

In the past two weeks, Big 3 evening newscast viewership has actually declined by 360,000, or 1.6%. What's more, in percentage terms, viewership among "The Demo" of ages 25-54 has declined even further (220,000, down 3.1%).

Heh™.

164 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:44:11am

Well, its better than nothing... BuzzSaw Monkey's "Gimme ACORN!"

MP3, for your downloading pleasure, sending it to Libs and Dhimmocrats everywhere!

165 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:47:16am

Obama has landed, not a ufo, but another prime endorsement!

Niburu endorses Obama

The following is a transmission channeled through Commander August Stahr from Commander Ashtar on 9.30.08 explaining how the “desire for sightings” has triggered the Planetary Shift you have all been waiting for.
*snip*
How can this be? True change comes from within and the “change of guard” on the inner levels is complete. Each person will be guided in new directions for the betterment of themselves and mankind as it was always meant to be. This time in the Earth’s history will be remembered as Earth’s wake up call, the decision point for moving in a new direction which will bring about changes for the better in all areas of your life. Barack Obama is the right man for this moment in Earth’s history. He will be elected to the U.S. Presidency and he will go on to two terms which will fully anchor in the new direction the U.S. and the World will embark upon. (emphasis added)

166 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:49:37am

re: #162 BlueCanuck

Quiet in here tonight. Or I just have nothing to say.

What? Are we here to amuse you, or somethin'?

/language warning

167 Mr Krabs  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:50:08am

I can't vote, but I just placed a sizeable bet on McCain, odds 6:1. While the media writes Mac off, I'm hoping Obamas obvious corruption will finish him off instead. I have a flat-screen TV riding on your election. You on the other hand have a little more at stake, methinks. Good luck.

168 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:52:56am

re: #166 Sharmuta

heh, I am all tapped out of funny today. :)

/real shame too, have to caption a pic for the GF's dog.

169 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:55:59am

re: #168 BlueCanuck

The dog asked you to caption a pic?

170 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:57:04am

re: #169 Sharmuta

The dog asked you to caption a pic?

Ummm, looks like I am all out of grammer too. *heh*

171 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:57:25am

re: #167 Mr Krabs

I can't vote

Obviously you've never met any of the ACORN operatives.

172 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

173 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:00:11am

w00t! :-)

174 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:00:47am

re: #172 littleoldlady

W000tttt!111! That's the second time this week littleoldlady. Congrats and thanks for the very timely fruitcup.

175 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:01:06am

How do you do it, littleoldlady?

176 Mr Krabs  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:02:17am

re: #171 Fenway_Nation
THAT good are they?

177 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:03:35am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

I am having a "discussion" with a "friend" that's elevating my blood pressure. That's the trick.

178 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:05:27am

I severely regret that food is my "comfort thing".

179 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:06:05am

I played Mad Libs online! Here's what I got:

Ladies and gentlemen, on this ducky occasion, it is a privilege to address such a/an hairy-looking group of shoes. I can tell from your smiling forks that you will support my sweet program in the coming election. I promise that, if elected, there will be a/an plant in every leash and two balls in every garage. I want to warn you against my curly opponent, Mr. BlueCanuck. This man is nothing but a/an crazy mug. He has a/an pink character and is working song in glove with the criminal element. If elected, I promise to eliminate vice. I will keep the ears in the public till. I promise you fabulous government, green taxes, and special schools.

I chose Mad Libs for President.

180 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:07:39am

re: #179 Sharmuta

That almost made sense. Think I need either more coffee, more alcohol, or sleep.

181 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:09:52am

re: #179 Sharmuta

I played Mad Libs online! Here's what I got:

I chose Mad Libs for President.

I have no idea why some things just DONT load, whether I try them in FF or IE. What kind of plugin do I need to run that thing?

182 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:19am

re: #175 Fenway_Nation

How do you do it, littleoldlady?

it's the drugs.................

/white smoke

183 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:19am

re: #180 BlueCanuck

As my opponent in this election, I demand you provide a Mad Lib or suffer the wrath of the electorate!

184 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:26am

re: #179 Sharmuta

Here's what I got just clicking sorta randomly

/okay what ever word tickled my fancy.

Ladies and gentlemen, on this gigantic occasion, it is a privilege to address such a/an spotty-looking group of cameras. I can tell from your smiling rocks that you will support my ordinary program in the coming election. I promise that, if elected, there will be a/an ape in every bed and two suitcases in every garage. I want to warn you against my prickly opponent, Mr. Nick. This man is nothing but a/an wide-eyed wood. He has a/an freezing character and is working statue in glove with the criminal element. If elected, I promise to eliminate vice. I will keep the mosquitoes in the public till. I promise you substantial government, expensive taxes, and hollow schools.

185 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:52am

re: #181 TheMatrix31

I do not know, Hon.

186 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:11:12am

re: #182 redc1c4

That too.

red! :-)

187 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:11:27am

re: #178 TheMatrix31

I severely regret that food is my "comfort thing".

try ethanol..... if nothing else, it'll make food look good.

188 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:13:11am

re: #184 BlueCanuck

Looks like they only have one game for President. Bummer- we could have some real fun with that.

189 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:14:02am

re: #180 BlueCanuck

That almost made sense. Think I need either more coffee, more alcohol, or sleep.

my vote is for ETOH....

the others can wait. %-)

190 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:14:38am

re: #188 Sharmuta

Yes a lot of hillarity could ensue with some of the changes to speeches you could make.

191 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:14:52am

re: #187 redc1c4

try ethanol..... if nothing else, it'll make food look good.

Heh, ironically, I just pokished off a whole bowl of popCORN.

192 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:15:27am

re: #191 TheMatrix31

Heh, ironically, I just pokished off a whole bowl of popCORN.

polished*

193 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:16:29am

re: #192 TheMatrix31

polished*

and what did you sprinkle on it?

194 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:17:55am

re: #193 redc1c4

and what did you sprinkle on it?

Whatever it was, it probably wasn't coke, since Barack Obama already nationalized the cocaine industry.

195 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:22:11am

POLITICAL SPEECH

Ladies and gentlemen, on this racist occasion, it is a privilege to address such a/an sexist-looking group of bigots. I can tell from your smiling islamophobes that you will support my misogynistic program in the coming election. I promise that, if elected, there will be a/an earmark in every ACORN and two limits in every garage. I want to warn you against my red opponent, Mr. ThatGuy. This man is nothing but a/an marxist paygrade. He has a/an gafftastic character and is working Fruitcup in glove with the criminal element. If elected, I promise to eliminate vice. I will keep the communists in the public till. I promise you yellow government, punative taxes, and fascist schools.

Heh.

196 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:22:18am

re: #194 TheMatrix31

Whatever it was, it probably wasn't coke, since Barack Obama already nationalized the cocaine industry.

/snort!

(if you can't beat'em, join'em! %-)

197 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:24:07am

re: #196 redc1c4

Bad redc! BAD KITTY!

198 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:29:28am

re: #197 Karridine

Bad redc! BAD KITTY!

ain't nuthin but the dawg in me.....

199 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:30:13am

Good morning folks.

Canadian election results are in and Stephen Harper's Conservatives have won a minority gov't, which is what they had before the election. Harper was hoping for a majority, but will have to make do with a somewhat stronger minority position. Considering the economy mess would tend to hurt the incumbant, this has to be seen as a modest success for Harper.

The Liberals were the big losers, which means Stephane Dion is toast. He basically sucked on the campaign trail. Dion has been described as "Al Gore, but without the macho charisma". Ouch.

NDP leader Jack Layton, who was accurately described as "alert as a chihauhau at the mail slot", managed to hold on as the 3rd party, but no better.

The Greens got more votes but no seats. The Bloc took 50 seats in Quebec, increasing their base.

House of Commons seats will look like this:

CON 143
LIB 76
BQ 50
NDP 37
IND 2

Which means no 2 opposition parties will have enough votes to block the Conservatives. The chances of getting the 3 opposition parties to agree on anything are next to nil. This means Harper will have an effective, if not absolute, majority gov't.

200 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:30:48am

re: #6 Macker

Yep: Here are the totals:

Conservatives: 141 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 143
Liberals: 74 Elected, 3 Leading. Total: 77
Bloc Québécois: 48 Elected, 1 Leading. Total: 49
New Democratic Party: 35 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 37
Independent: 2 Elected, 0 Leading. Total: 2

Grits Lost Big Time! Harper gets a stronger minority government.

Macker -

The "Grit" leader had to be the worst ever. He made former PM Martin look like Sir Winston by comparison. Noticed that Newmarket-Aurora reverted to Tory with Belinda Stronach sitting this election out. All in all a successful evening for PM Harper. Methinks that when the history is written, PM Harper will be for Canada as Reagan was for the US.

-S-

201 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:32:01am

Bow-wow-yippee-yo-yippee-yay!

Some song, RedC! :D

202 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:32:38am

re: #191 TheMatrix31

Heh, ironically, I just pokished off a whole bowl of popCORN.

Now, that's kinky.

203 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:33:17am

re: #199 Kenneth

I wonder if Bob Rae will run for the leadership spot again. If he does, the next election will put Ontario solidly in the Conservative camp.

204 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:34:10am

re: #202 MandyManners

Now, that's kinky.

Hey, I'm sick of this homework, it's late and I'm the only one up.....things happen.

205 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:34:38am

re: #202 MandyManners

Now, that's kinky.

we'll take your word for it......

/white smoke

206 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:34:45am

re: #202 MandyManners

Now, that's kinky.

Is that the Popcorn-Hamster-Valvoline perversion, Mandy?
/I mean, I've HEARD people talking...

207 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:35:21am

re: #204 TheMatrix31

Hey, I'm sick of this homework, it's late and I'm the only one up.....things happen.

what are you studying?

208 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:37:07am

re: #172 littleoldlady

Thanks much Lil' one...

Breaking my lurking rule to gloat over my ticket to see John McCain on Thursday out here in Chester County PA. I can walk ('bout 1.5 miles) to the venue, thinking about leaving the car at home.

209 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:38:09am

I'm pleased to see in my riding, the moron vote was split with the Radical Marijuana Party getting almost twice the votes (208) as the Marxist-Leninists (110). One way to look at that is that loony dope-heads are more mainstream than idiot Commies.

210 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:39:01am

re: #207 redc1c4

what are you studying?

I have to transcribe a 60 second chunk of conversation, complete with funky notations to reflect specifics within the word structure and pronunciation.

It's one of the most tedious things I've ever had to do my schooling history.

211 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:39:18am

re: #209 Kenneth

Which riding is that? Sounds like a Toronto one to me.

212 rightwinger3  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:39:50am

re: #209 Kenneth

I'm pleased to see in my riding, the moron vote was split with the Radical Marijuana Party getting almost twice the votes (208) as the Marxist-Leninists (110). One way to look at that is that loony dope-heads are more mainstream than idiot Commies.

That's good news, I would have been upset if it had been the other way around.

213 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:40:46am

re: #203 BlueCanuck

I believe the campaign to replace Dion began around 1:30 AM. Rae, Iggy, Kennedy & Dryden are all sharpening knives this morning. Justin Trudeau is also rumoured to be interested. Dion is toast.

214 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:40:55am

re: #208 Stonemason

STONEMASON! :-)

We saw McCain and Palin in Media. (Be prepared for a lot of loony-toon Obamatons on the sidelines.)

They bussed us over from Springfield Mall where we parked.

215 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:41:34am

re: #210 TheMatrix31

I have to transcribe a 60 second chunk of conversation, complete with funky notations to reflect specifics within the word structure and pronunciation.

It's one of the most tedious things I've ever had to do my schooling history.

sucks to be you.......

WTF are you studying for?

216 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:41:53am

I must say, it was a pretty good day yesterday, with Harper winning in Canada and Obama forced to throw not one, but two, of his staunchest supporters, Jesse Jackson and ACORN, under the bus.

I wonder what today will hold? A Hellfire through Osama's beard? We can hope.

217 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:42:10am

re: #211 BlueCanuck

Oh yes, I'm in Liberal Toronto. Gerard Kennedy took the riding for the Liberals, defeating the NDP incumbant.

218 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:42:25am

Stonemason,

How are the lawn signs running in your neighborhood? I'm seeing A LOT more McCain signs this time than Kerry last time.

219 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:44:06am

re: #210 TheMatrix31

Should be a 1/2-hour task at most, hey?

/C'mon, Mate Tricks, get it DONE and OVER WITH! :D

220 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:45:47am

re: #217 Kenneth

Nice area. Glad to see a NDPer lose that one. Maybe in a couple more elections that riding will go all the way to the right. ;)

221 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:49:32am

re: #215 redc1c4

sucks to be you.......

WTF are you studying for?

It's this class called "Conversational Analysis" where we literally break down and analyze conversations. Structures, expectations, etc. I've never seen a subject so pointless yet so oddly relevant.

re: #219 Karridine

Should be a 1/2-hour task at most, hey?

/C'mon, Mate Tricks, get it DONE and OVER WITH! :D

You wish 1/2 hour. I've had to listen to this audio over, and over, and over, and over again. I've been working on it for about 2 and a half hours now. I The guy said it should take about 3.

222 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:49:39am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

AND- the networks are still losing ratings. Heehee.

223 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:51:25am

re: #214 littleoldlady

I am looking forward to the looney toons, I know most of them around here!

224 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:51:35am

Wait, I must have missed him throwing our beloved Jesse Jackson under the bus.

225 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:51:45am

I live north of New York City by about 80 miles. Of course Obama will take NY, but I thought it surprising that I see more McCain signs than Obama.

226 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:52:03am

re: #218 littleoldlady

Stonemason,

How are the lawn signs running in your neighborhood? I'm seeing A LOT more McCain signs this time than Kerry last time.

what's interesting is how few Obanal signs there are in my hood..... could be they are just lazy, as there are lots of stickers on cars, but they could be from anywhere.

i haven't asked my associate who told me last summer that Shrillery was our next President, and that i should get used to it what he thinks/is voting for....... dumb as he is, the answer is likely Obanal. %-)

227 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:53:40am

re: #218 littleoldlady

We are about fifty/fifty, but there have been a rash of thefts. I have replaced mine twice.

My neck of the woods is mostly Republican, but they are not active so the active Democrats seem to outnumber the passive Republicans. I can't begin to count the number of friends that refused my offer of signs.

228 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:53:41am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

You wish 1/2 hour. I've had to listen to this audio over, and over, and over, and over again. I've been working on it for about 2 and a half hours now. I The guy said it should take about 3.

you thinking of going Intel later?

sounds like fun!

/white smoke

229 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:54:56am

Could someone explain white smoke to me?

230 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:55:01am

From Thomas Ayers' Wiki page:

Thomas G. Ayers is the father of William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born 26 December 1944), an American elementary education theorist and leading 1960s domestic terrorist.

231 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:55:09am

re: #228 redc1c4

you thinking of going Intel later?

sounds like fun!

/white smoke

Not at all. It's just a class that I was basically torpedoed into taking, considering all the Poli Sci classes were filled by the time it was my turn (incoming transfers) to register.

232 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:56:30am

re: #227 Stonemason

We are about fifty/fifty, but there have been a rash of thefts. I have replaced mine twice.

My neck of the woods is mostly Republican, but they are not active so the active Democrats seem to outnumber the passive Republicans. I can't begin to count the number of friends that refused my offer of signs.

mine is moonbat territory:
wife won't let me put one up: she doesn't want to "upset" the neighbors......
(more worried about vandalism, truth be known.)

/i say "fuck'em!"

233 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:56:43am

re: #227 Stonemason

We are about fifty/fifty, but there have been a rash of thefts. I have replaced mine twice.

My neck of the woods is mostly Republican, but they are not active so the active Democrats seem to outnumber the passive Republicans. I can't begin to count the number of friends that refused my offer of signs.

Mix a little concrete and put it into the itty-bitty holes?

234 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:57:20am

re: #231 TheMatrix31

Not at all. It's just a class that I was basically torpedoed into taking, considering all the Poli Sci classes were filled by the time it was my turn (incoming transfers) to register.

Good Lord! You mean you went to more than one college? Could be a detriment when you run for political office.

235 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:58:12am

re: #229 tappin52

Could someone explain white smoke to me?

it's a hold over from my Usenet days on AFM/UMA:

Smoke and Pyro

White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger


Some Examples:

Red says something smart and instead of "ducking," pops white smoke and disengages.

Anyone needing assistance might designate a post (or a thread in the subject line) with yellow smoke.

Prior to typing a sarcastic remark, "pop purple smoke." When removing tounge from cheek, send up a White Star Cluster.

Green star clusters would probaly be most effective for the person on SGT Casey's duty roster with an addition to a subject line.

Yellow star clusters used to designate a friendly under fire or to initiate compromise under a misunderstanding.

Red star custer, any kind of warning.

236 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:58:37am

re: #232 redc1c4

My wife is the same way, worried about the vandalism. We are very close to a not-so-nice area of most likely Obama supporters and Illegal Immigrants. She won't let me put up the Google: Obama/Ayers sign I was going to make!

237 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:59:17am

re: #220 BlueCanuck

Gerard Kennedy is a very skilled polical operator and plans to be around for a long time. If the Tories ever want to win this riding they will have to decide to run a plausable candidate. The last 3 times they ran nobodies & finished in a distant 3rd place.

238 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:59:19am

re: #233 MandyManners

Thought about it, considering the nick

239 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:01:04am

re: #226 redc1c4

The lawn signs serve as my empirical polling. :-)

re: #227 Stonemason

I was out and about these past couple of weeks:

Haverford - mostly Obama signs. (No surprise there. Probably the same in Swarthmore & Bryn Mawr.)
Havertown - mostly Obama
Lower Merion - 50/50
Villanova - mostly McCain
My neighborhood - very few signs. ;-)

Boy, I'd sure like to get rid of Sestak!

240 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:01:23am

re: #233 MandyManners

I had to explain to my 14 year old why we couldn't just electrify 'em, although the idea was kinda...nevermind.

241 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:01:32am

re: #235 redc1c4
Thanks, I now have some studying to do.

242 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:02:04am

re: #236 Stonemason

My wife is the same way, worried about the vandalism. We are very close to a not-so-nice area of most likely Obama supporters and Illegal Immigrants. She won't let me put up the Google: Obama/Ayers sign I was going to make!

not an issue here.... we just won't get invited to the opening night cast party....or be on the back stage list.

/not that we're going to be anyway. %-)

243 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:02:35am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

Well, Matrix, IF you're actually doing this, I suggest that you'll derive some new insights into English AND into the speakers' mindset/perceptual-set before you're finished, IF (big IF) you haven't already.

Its NOT a meaningless exercise, if you want to let the value ooze through...

244 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:03:16am

re: #239 littleoldlady

I was in Conshoken and Bala Cynwyd yesterday, all Obama. Heck, I was picking up free stones from a Craigslist add in my turck with the McCain/Palin sitcker at a house with an Obama sign. I thought the wife was going to say something but she just hopped into the Volvo and left.

245 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:04:45am

re: #244 Stonemason

PIMF Conshoken Should be Conshohoken

246 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:05:30am

re: #245 Stonemason

PIMF Conshoken Should be Conshohoken

Conshohocken. ;-)

247 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:05:47am

re: #234 tappin52

Good Lord! You mean you went to more than one college? Could be a detriment when you run for political office.

Yeah, God forbid I went to more than one college!

re: #243 Karridine

Well, Matrix, IF you're actually doing this, I suggest that you'll derive some new insights into English AND into the speakers' mindset/perceptual-set before you're finished, IF (big IF) you haven't already.

Its NOT a meaningless exercise, if you want to let the value ooze through...

Oh yeah, it's pretty interesting albeit very boring and tedious. I can see how it's extremely necessary.

248 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:06:09am

re: #237 Kenneth

Yeah, I was checking the results from that riding. Pretty pathetic for Conservatives overall. My riding eventually may get rid of Volpe in a year or so.

249 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:06:46am

re: #246 littleoldlady

Grrrr....and Turk is truck, now I know why I don't post.

back to work, have a great day.

250 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:07:59am

re: #249 Stonemason

GREAT seeing you!

/don't lurk so much...!

251 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:10:57am

re: #224 TheMatrix31

Wait, I must have missed him throwing our beloved Jesse Jackson under the bus.

Obama Camp Rejects Jackson's Claim That He Would Diminish 'Zionist' Influence

Barack Obama's campaign stepped in quickly Tuesday to distance itself from a claim by the Rev. Jesse Jackson that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.

The move was the latest chapter in what appears to be a protracted falling-out between the two Chicago figures -- each of whom represents a different age of political activism.

Jackson made the remarks to the World Policy Forum in France last week, according to The New York Post. The civil rights activist reportedly said that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose some of their influence with Obama in the White House, and that "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would come to a close.

Obama's campaign denied that assertion on Tuesday.

"Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. is not an adviser to the Obama campaign and is therefore in no position to interpret or share Barack Obama's views on Israel and foreign policy," Obama national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said in a statement.

"As he has made clear throughout his career and throughout this campaign, Barack Obama has a fundamental commitment to a strong U.S.-Israel relationship ... As president, he will ensure that Israel can defend itself from every threat it faces, stand with Israel in its quest for a secure peace with its neighbors, and use all elements of American power to end Iran's illicit nuclear program.

"No false charges can change Barack Obama's unshakeable commitment to Israel's security."

252 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:11:32am

Has BHO thrown Jackson under the bus? The campaign has said that Jackson is not a member of his campaign or advisor.

253 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:11:32am

todays brush with banality......

there i was, on the way home from dropping off a library book, "The Long Embrace" there was a flock of vultures across from the bowling alley.

i swung a u, and asked a bystander, who thought it was the Coonass bimbo.

i'll have to ask the neighbor for details, since it was their shop, or the one next to it, but i really don't GAF one way or the other....

254 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:12:10am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

GMTA.

255 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:13:07am

Good morning, Lizards.

Great news for the middle-aged and older among us...and the perfect excuse to surf the hours away:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

256 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:14:41am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

thus spake Morigi the Merciless........

funny how they jump and run every time the truth comes out.

257 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:15:05am

re: #255 scottishbuzzsaw

But not nearly as good for the butt! ;-)

'Morning, scottishbuzzsaw! :-)

258 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:15:24am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

I must say, it was a pretty good day yesterday, with Harper winning in Canada and Obama forced to throw not one, but two, of his staunchest supporters, Jesse Jackson and ACORN, under the bus.


/ becoming crowded under the bus,
and might require reservations in the future.

259 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:15:37am

re: #257 littleoldlady

LOL, lol!

260 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:16:01am

stop me if this has been posted before: Never Find Out

261 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:16:19am

re: #257 littleoldlady

But not nearly as good for the butt! ;-)

'Morning, scottishbuzzsaw! :-)

Oh, you are so right about that! Good morning, littleoldlady!

262 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:16:36am

Morning scottishbuzzsaw. How's things going?

263 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:17:15am

re: #247 TheMatrix31

No, NOT necessary, and yes, TEDIOUS...

But it CAN give you some insights into how peoples' perceptual set works, how their filters kick in, and how YOUR though-processes transpire...

Hey, if you GOTTA do it, make the most of the doing! Its YOUR life, Matrix! :D

264 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:17:20am

re: #262 BlueCanuck

Morning scottishbuzzsaw. How's things going?

Very well, thank you (except for the effect LOL describes)...how are you today?

265 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:18:14am

Good morning, Scotti. Been missing you lately.

266 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:18:18am

re: #264 scottishbuzzsaw

doing alright. mind is in vacation mode already.

/otherwise I don't give a rat's ass about work at the moment. :)

267 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:18:34am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

Barack Obama's campaign stepped in quickly Tuesday to distance itself from a claim by the Rev. Jesse Jackson that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.


/hate to be on Obama's campaign.

They probably get calls at 3 in the morning.

268 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:19:32am

re: #265 Sharmuta

Good morning, Scotti. Been missing you lately.

Good morning, Shar...my schedule has been in flux...I've missed meeting up with you in the wee hours...how have you been?

269 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:20:53am

Good morning, Lizards!

270 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:00am

re: #263 Karridine

No, NOT necessary, and yes, TEDIOUS...

But it CAN give you some insights into how peoples' perceptual set works, how their filters kick in, and how YOUR though-processes transpire...

Hey, if you GOTTA do it, make the most of the doing! Its YOUR life, Matrix! :D

Like you, I prefer capitalizing my words and using "..." in order to make my points. Too bad that doesn't fly in the assignment, haha.

271 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:22am

re: #266 BlueCanuck

doing alright. mind is in vacation mode already.

/otherwise I don't give a rat's ass about work at the moment. :)

Your vacation is coming soon?

272 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:30am

re: #268 scottishbuzzsaw

I'm pretty good, Scotti.

273 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:59am

Good morning, goddess. How did rehearsal go?

274 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:22:17am

time for more drugs and a few hours sleep on the sofa.....

it'll be nice when i can breathe again.

/CS canisters and white smoke...... (that'll clear your sinuses! $-)

275 rightside  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:22:23am

Morning Lizards!

276 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:23:01am

re: #269 goddessoftheclassroom
Morning goddess.
re: #271 scottishbuzzsaw

Yep, one more shift to go and I am outta here for a week. Going to try and find a way to get some posts in.

277 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:24:00am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess.
re: #271 scottishbuzzsaw

Yep, one more shift to go and I am outta here for a week. Going to try and find a way to get some posts in.

use the GF's 'puter?

278 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:25:12am

re: #248 BlueCanuck

Hey, maybe one day Volpe will be found stuffed in the truck of a car left in a lot at Pearson airport like his cousin was. Try to stay optimistic.

279 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:25:34am

re: #272 Sharmuta

I'm pretty good, Scotti.

{Sharmuta} I don't know why, considering I can't hear your voice, but you sound a bit tired...:>)

280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:25:36am

Why am I up?

281 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:26:07am

re: #277 redc1c4

Alas she's stuck here in the T dot for Fashion week. And I will be far away.

282 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:26:31am

re: #279 scottishbuzzsaw

Eeyores are draining.

283 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:26:48am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess.
re: #271 scottishbuzzsaw

Yep, one more shift to go and I am outta here for a week. Going to try and find a way to get some posts in.

That's great! Will you be traveling?

284 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:27:03am

I'm feeling a great deal more optimistic about the election now. Obama's vile associations are starting to hurt despite the best efforts of goebbelist media to cover for him.
The drop in fuel costs will also be crucial, since this is an immediate and personal issue for virtually the entire electorate.

A lot will depend on how McCain does in the debate tonight, but he has a history of near-miraculous comebacks from seemingly hopeless situations, starting with the Forrestal fire, through the purgatory of communist captivity, and continuing right up to the primary campaign this year.

285 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:27:13am

re: #273 Sharmuta

Good morning, goddess. How did rehearsal go?

{Sharmuta}

Meh, we accomplished something that needed to be done, but not everything I wanted to. They're junior high kids, and they don't yet have the discipline to focus to the extent I want.

286 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:28:04am

re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why am I up?

Because you're not down?

287 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:28:14am

re: #282 Sharmuta

Eeyores are draining.

Oh, sweetie, you have done so much to rally us day in and day out...I think we should start a collection and send you on a vacation after McCain/Palin win...

288 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:28:17am

re: #285 goddessoftheclassroom

{Sharmuta}

Meh, we accomplished something that needed to be done, but not everything I wanted to. They're junior high kids, and they don't yet have the discipline to focus to the extent I want.

We'll have to get Dear Leader to motivate them! ;)

289 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:29:13am

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

You'll have to twist my arm. OW! Okay- that's enough. ;)

290 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:29:31am

Obama revs up the bus... but ACORN is not quite under it.

291 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:29:36am

re: #283 scottishbuzzsaw

Yes ma'am. Off to British Columbia for a few days and then back to spend time with friends and family.

292 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:31:48am

re: #270 TheMatrix31

Well, when yr finished, drop me an email (tomorrow, or next Juvember) summarizing how it all came together...

/or a 10 word summary of "What I Learned at Transcription Sensitivity Training Camp"

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:32:20am

re: #286 MandyManners

Purty funny what Jesse said, ain't it. Just heard it this morning.

I'll never understand Jewish support of Democratic tickets.

294 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:34:43am

re: #291 BlueCanuck

Yes ma'am. Off to British Columbia for a few days and then back to spend time with friends and family.

Sounds wonderful...enjoy!

295 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:00am

Don't know if anyone has seen this guy's videos on Youtube yet, but he is fairly humorous. OldGrumpyGuy interviews Barack Obama.

296 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:29am

If McCain actually pulls it out, the wailing and gnashing of teeth among our enemies and their shills will be awesome to behold, from the NYT offices to the caves of Afghanistan and the whorehouses of Amsterdam.

"What is best in life?"
Conan Lizardoid: "To crush your enemies, the moonbats, to see them their Priuses and Volvos driven to the repo lot before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women media."

297 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:44am

re: #282 Sharmuta

Eeyores are draining.

Nuh. You should try talking to Obamtrons.

/Blood Pressure Spikes 'R Us

298 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:59am

Casey Anthony's finally been charged in the murder of Caylee.

299 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:37:29am

re: #292 Karridine

Well, when yr finished, drop me an email (tomorrow, or next Juvember) summarizing how it all came together...

/or a 10 word summary of "What I Learned at Transcription Sensitivity Training Camp"

I'm JUST about done, putting some finishing touches on it. It came out pretty well, I think. They said they weren't going to be grading too harshly on it. It's our first assignment in the class, so I don't think they're expecting much. Thanks for the concern! Tomorrow night, I'll have another assignment to work on due for Thursday. THAT one's gonna be a bitch.

300 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:37:53am

Morning all.
The Happy Road Warrior here.
I just love business travel.
Any odds on whether McCain will have what it takes tonight?

301 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:38:02am

re: #297 littleoldlady

Nuh. You should try talking to Obamtrons.

/Blood Pressure Spikes 'R Us

I'm related to them.

/Told one of them to enjoy unemployment and putting all their remaining money in their gas tank.

302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:39:04am

re: #296 Shiplord Kirel

If McCain actually pulls it out, the wailing and gnashing of teeth among our enemies and their shills will be awesome to behold, from the NYT offices to the caves of Afghanistan and the whorehouses of Amsterdam

the dumpsters of Berkley...

Feel free to add on folks...

303 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:39:41am

re: #300 jim in virginia

Morning all.
The Happy Road Warrior here.
I just love business travel.
Any odds on whether McCain will have what it takes tonight?

He seemed pretty fired up on the stump yesterday. He looked confident.

304 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:39:52am

I was really glad to see this, as it saves me the trouble of cancelling my subscription.

I'm rethinking my up to now live-and-let-live philosophy. I've not let someone's politics affect whether or not I use their services or products.

From now on, I'm going to give much greater weight to just how much moonbattishness is involved in my life.

So, no more Levis (not a real problem, since they don't make them incountry anymore). No more Google. There'll be lots more.

A shame, really. But why enrich those who wish me and my country harm?

I'm still pondering the personal relationships. Got some really good Democrat friends I'd miss.

305 scratch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:41:19am

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

"Barrack Obama: Leadership for a New Generation."

306 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:41:57am

re: #301 Sharmuta

I'm related to them.

/Told one of them to enjoy unemployment and putting all their remaining money in their gas tank.

I've had some small success sending out that Wall Street Journal article explaining what "95% of workers will get a tax break" means, with the subject line, "Thank you in advance for supporting me for the next few years!"

307 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:42:10am

They're talking on F&F about McCain bringing up Ayers in the debate. Good stuff, however, why are they letting everyone KNOW about it?!

308 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:42:33am

re: #300 jim in virginia


Any odds on whether McCain will have what it takes tonight?

I think he will reach deep and pull out some of whatever it is that has gotten him through so many desperate scrapes in the past.

309 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:42:47am

{My Rove!}

Are you at least some place fun?

310 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:43:10am

re: #304 razorbacker
I know how you feel. I heard a radio ad yesterday. Ralph Stanley endorsed Barry. I love his music but not sure I want to pay him for it now.
And piracy is just wrong.

311 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:43:17am

I missed Joe Plumber on Cavuto.

312 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:44:09am

re: #301 Sharmuta

I'm related to them.

*sigh* Me too...

313 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:44:51am

re: #304 razorbacker

Why punish the magazine? Buckley's gone.

BTW, are there any jeans made in the U.S.?

314 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:45:05am

re: #309 littleoldlady
Visiting our office in Newport News. Not a bad place to be, considering I get paid for it.
How's things with you? What's up with MNT?

315 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:45:35am

Okay check out this guy in the WSJ who says Bill Ayers is a model citizen. he says he knows Ayers now for 10 years and he is just swell. i'm not kidding. Here is the email I sent him. I encourage everyone to give him your comments as well.

"Ayers a model citizen? what planet are you from? i'm sure there are people who would say the same about Osama bin Laden, or would have said the same about Timothy McVeigh.
Maybe in your circles this kind of person is a "model citizen", but where I come from we expect that the president of the US might actually have just a bit sharper sense of right and wrong, and discriminate a bit more in his relationships. Nobody cares about people like you, or the other professors who might want to rub shoulders with the guy. Don't try to turn it into a mass indictment of everyone.

"Deep down Bill Ayers hates what this country stands for, and the fact that Barack Obama doesn't get that or would turn a blind eye to it makes him unfit to be POTUS."

316 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:46:06am

re: #310 jim in virginia

I know how you feel. I heard a radio ad yesterday. Ralph Stanley endorsed Barry. I love his music but not sure I want to pay him for it now.
And piracy is just wrong.

If you'd like, I'll send you a letter of Marquis (I think that's how it's spelled)

You could look at it as the old style English pirates did whilst raiding the Spanish treasure ships.

Arrrgh, matey.

317 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:47:40am

re: #310 jim in virginia

And piracy is just wrong.

It's a respectable profession now. They have spokespeople and everything.

318 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:06am

re: #316 razorbacker

If you'd like, I'll send you a letter of Marquis (I think that's how it's spelled)

You could look at it as the old style English pirates did whilst raiding the Spanish treasure ships.

Arrrgh, matey.

Been hanging around loflyer a little too much lately? :)

/don't let realwest catch you, you might be keel hauled in fine British naval tradition.

319 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:24am

re: #314 jim in virginia

We're hanging in, thanks for asking. MNT (who turns 20 on Friday - ACK! - no more "T"!) is in the middle of taking midterms along with amoxicillin for ear and upper resperatory infections.

/should be interesting...
// [shudder!]

How're your girls?

320 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:27am

re: #313 MandyManners

Why punish the magazine? Buckley's gone.

BTW, are there any jeans made in the U.S.?

That's why I don't have to cancel.

And no, not that I know of. But Wrangler doesn't actively work against the Boy Scouts like Levi, and I kinda like the Scouts. Clean, brave, and thrifty. You know, like Obama.

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:34am

re: #311 MandyManners

I missed Joe Plumber on Cavuto.

I heard him interviewed yesterday. He was not bowled over by Obama. He said, "I am more afraid of him now that I have met him."

Funny, probably the same thing that Obama said to his people after meeting Joe Plumber.

322 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:48am

re: #306 littleoldlady

Have a link to that? It might work on one of my Aunties who is totally in the tank for 0bama, but hates her tax burden.

My other Auntie hasn't decided to vote for McCain yet, but she's not voting for 0bama.

323 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:49:33am

re: #307 TheMatrix31

Two possible explanations:

1. McCain is setting Obama up for a surprising new and damaging revelation about Ayers.

2. McCain is trying to calm nervous supporters by over-promising what little comment he actually maked about Ayers.

Obama has certainly worked up a plausable evasive maneuver. McCain's challenge is to throw him off guard and catch him with a new angle. The more angry & defensive Obama is the better McCain's chances are.

324 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:49:51am

re: #315 alien_mind

Yesterday Fox had on a guy named Singer with the same chazzerei. Teaches at Hofstra.

/yet another reason to be happy my kid left Hofstra after one semester.

325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:50:10am

Joe Plumber may be more important that ayers.

326 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:51:27am

re: #316 razorbacker

That's the spirit. Piracy is wrong. Internet privateering however...

Whenever something seems immoral or repugnant, you just need to relabel into a more appealing activity.

327 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:51:41am
328 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:52:04am

re: #320 razorbacker

That's why I don't have to cancel.

And no, not that I know of. But Wrangler doesn't actively work against the Boy Scouts like Levi, and I kinda like the Scouts. Clean, brave, and thrifty. You know, like Obama.

Sorry for my confusion regarding the cancellation.

What's up with Levis and the BSA?

329 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:52:06am

re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Joe Plumber may be more important that ayers.

Look how well running on raising taxes worked for Mondale.

330 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:52:17am

re: #327 littleoldlady

You ROCK!

331 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:53:30am

re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard him interviewed yesterday. He was not bowled over by Obama. He said, "I am more afraid of him now that I have met him."

Funny, probably the same thing that Obama said to his people after meeting Joe Plumber.

I wish McCain could get the Plumber to do an ad on the tax issue.

332 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:54:46am

re: #324 littleoldlady

Yesterday Fox had on a guy named Singer with the same chazzerei. Teaches at Hofstra.

/yet another reason to be happy my kid left Hofstra after one semester.

you got me with that one, had to look it up. yep!

333 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:55:06am

re: #326 Scion9

Whenever something seems immoral or repugnant, you just need to relabel into a more appealing activity.

I see... like Bill Clinton "mentoring" Monica? Or the Democrats corrupt subprime mortage fiasco was "helping underprivledged Americans share in the American dream"?

334 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:55:13am

re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Joe Plumber may be more important that ayers.

People might be able to grasp money better than ideology. However, not being able to comprehend that Ayers is an American-hating bastard just escapes me.

335 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:10am

Talked to my buddy Walt yesterday evening and asked him how his work for Obama was going. He said it was a slam-dunk with his folks, as they all were going to vote for the fellow Black guy. I reminded him of the White mom, but he trumped me with the old 'one drop' thing.

He asked how many of my fellow honkies were going to vote Democrat in spite of it all, and I had to admit that I knew some who were going to sit this one out.

He said that was the real worry he had. Just how strong was the Demo vote going to be. We agreed that Obama would do really well with the liberal Ds, and of course had the Yellow Dogs sewn up, but conservative Democrats might stay away or go McCain.

He's not nearly as sure of this thing as the MSM is.

336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:41am

re: #334 MandyManners

People might be able to grasp money better than ideology. However, not being able to comprehend that Ayers is an American-hating bastard just escapes me.

Go figure.

337 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:52am

re: #331 MandyManners

I wish McCain could get the Plumber to do an ad on the tax issue.

Would it be perceived, then, that the guy was some sort of McCain plant or something?

338 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:57:19am

re: #329 Sharmuta

Look how well running on raising taxes worked for Mondale.

LOL!

Spreading the wealth is a noble endeavor as long as it's done voluntarily. I spread the wealth every day when I shop. A business owner spreads the wealth when she pays her employees, buys supplies, et cet..

339 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:57:19am

re: #330 Sharmuta

Ha. Not ME. I found it in the spinoff links.

/to which I have a serious addictionn ;-)

340 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:57:50am

re: #299 TheMatrix31

Hey, I'm pretty good at transcribing... can I help?

341 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:58:41am

re: #338 MandyManners

LOL!

Spreading the wealth is a noble endeavor as long as it's done voluntarily. I spread the wealth every day when I shop. A business owner spreads the wealth when she pays her employees, buys supplies, et cet..

Very well said...feeling better today, Mandy?

342 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:05am

re: #328 MandyManners

Sorry for my confusion regarding the cancellation.

What's up with Levis and the BSA?

It's old news. Levi got all bent out of shape at the Scouts reluctance to allow gay scoutmasters. It was a big thing out in SF.

343 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:29am

re: #331 MandyManners

See my #148. I think if 0bama just talks, people will catch on.

344 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:32am

re: #335 razorbacker

I don't know if the Yellow-Dog Democrats are sewn up. My mom and my sister are Yellow Dogs but, they are NOT voting for BHO, and I'm sure there are many out there just like them.

345 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:41am

re: #334 MandyManners

Maybe what they fail to comprehend about the Ayers issue is what is so wrong with hating America? Ultimately, they share his values, as does Obama.

346 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:00:13am

re: #336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Go figure.

As a people, Americans are pretty forgiving but, usually when the offender has expressed remorse.

347 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:00:56am

re: #337 TheMatrix31

Would it be perceived, then, that the guy was some sort of McCain plant or something?

BHO sought him out.

Oh, wait.

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

348 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:01:03am

re: #326 Scion9


Whenever something seems immoral or repugnant, you just need to relabel into a more appealing activity.

Well, situational ethics is probably the most useful thing I learned in college.

Allows me to do pretty much as I please, as I can always rationalize it somehow.

349 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:01:23am

re: #340 Karridine

Hey, I'm pretty good at transcribing... can I help?

Thanks, haha. Nah, actually the one due Thursday (or tomorrow, wherever you're located) is for a different class -- Data Analysis.

350 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:01:59am

re: #341 scottishbuzzsaw

Very well said...feeling better today, Mandy?

The sinuses are much better, thank you for asking. It's that time of year, with all that fall stuff floating in the air.

351 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:02:37am

re: #342 razorbacker

It's old news. Levi got all bent out of shape at the Scouts reluctance to allow gay scoutmasters. It was a big thing out in SF.

I thought there was something new going on.

352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:00am

re: #347 MandyManners

Does the "RYMB" appear anywhere but here? I don't look at other blogs. Did it originate here?

353 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:01am

Well, should make my farewells now for the night. Have a good day all and stay scaly.

354 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:35am

Got to run--love to all!

355 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:50am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

Well, should make my farewells now for the night. Have a good day all and stay scaly.

Have a good one yourself!

356 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:51am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

Bye, Canuck.

357 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:54am

the "0" Plumber Policy

Work hard, support the lazy, I'll decide who gets what.

Not going to go over at all.

358 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:54am

re: #344 MandyManners

I don't know if the Yellow-Dog Democrats are sewn up. My mom and my sister are Yellow Dogs but, they are NOT voting for BHO, and I'm sure there are many out there just like them.

Then by definition, they aren't Yellow Dogs ('cause they'd vote for an old yaller dawg long as he wus a Democrat).

359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:04:53am

re: #358 razorbacker

I think even yellow dogs even have a tipping point.

360 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:05:07am

re: #343 Sharmuta

See my #148. I think if 0bama just talks, people will catch on.

I usually don't engage in "McCain better say this" or "McCain should say that" but, I think McCain should nail BHO with the taxation issue, especially the small-business angle. And, he should nail BHO with the "spreading the wealth" quote.

361 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:05:27am

re: #298 MandyManners

Casey Anthony's finally been charged in the murder of Caylee.

I hope they can make their case. I have a two year old granddaughter and it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl, Caylee.

362 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:06:08am

re: #345 Kenneth

Maybe what they fail to comprehend about the Ayers issue is what is so wrong with hating America? Ultimately, they share his values, as does Obama.

I'm talking about people who DON'T hate America who are planning to vote for BHO out of sheer ignorance of what BHO stand for.

363 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:07:45am

re: #361 tappin52

I hope they can make their case. I have a two year old granddaughter and it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl, Caylee.

Do they actually have any evidence? Did they find a body? I have a feeling they may botch this one.

364 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:08:11am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

Well, should make my farewells now for the night. Have a good day all and stay scaly.

'Night Blue. Or 'Morning. You know what I mean.

365 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:08:21am

the plumber guy is great. just your average small business guy in a T-shirt asking a direct question. Obama is so far off base when he said we have to make sure the others behind you also have a chance. huh? why wouldn't they have had the same chance this guy had? this spreading it around BS is nothing more than punishing doers and rewarding slackers.

366 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:08:42am

One of four AIG executives who spent $86,000.00 on murdering innocent partridges in England the same week Americans pulled their nuts out of the fire: "The recession should go on until 2001 but the shooting was great today and we are relaxing fine."

367 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:09:06am

re: #360 MandyManners

I've been saying for awhile now that he just needs to hammer home energy independence and fiscal sanity from Washington, and people will respond. I still believe that, so it's all I hope to hear tonight.

American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs. Coupled with Washington not spending like drunken sailors, the economy will improve.

That's a winning message. Run that for an ad, John!

368 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:09:23am

re: #319 littleoldlady
sorry, was in the shower, about to go get breakfast.
Girls are fine. I get to drive them back down here Saturday (well. almost to here, Williamsburg, 20 miles up the road) for an Irish dance competetion.
They are thinking about high school- are enamored of the idea of boarding school but realistic enough to know that (1) they really don't want to be away from home and (2) it aint going to happen anyway

369 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:09:37am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does the "RYMB" appear anywhere but here? I don't look at other blogs. Did it originate here?

I have no idea. Maybe it's in the dictionary? it's been a while since I looked at it.

370 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:10:03am

'Night, Blue.

Bye, goddess.

TRYING to get myself moving here...

371 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:10:11am

re: #349 TheMatrix31

Data Analysis... you're on your own, Kiddo! :D

Traffic Analysis, can do. Data? groping...

372 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:11:02am

re: #362 MandyManners

I see. They seems somehow innoculated against any critcism of the One. They argue that the fact Obama sat in Wright's pews for 20 years listening to his racist preaching doesn't prove Obama actually shares those views. You have to believe against all evidence.

373 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:11:15am

re: #367 Sharmuta

I've been saying for awhile now that he just needs to hammer home energy independence and fiscal sanity from Washington, and people will respond. I still believe that, so it's all I hope to hear tonight.

American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs. Coupled with Washington not spending like drunken sailors, the economy will improve.

That's a winning message. Run that for an ad, John!

John, hire Sharmuta for the last three weeks of campaigning!

374 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:11:23am

re: #358 razorbacker

Then by definition, they aren't Yellow Dogs ('cause they'd vote for an old yaller dawg long as he wus a Democrat).

Trust me: my mom IS the epitome of a Yellow-Dog Democrat. It just goes to show how dangerous BHO is if she refuses to vote for him. For the first time in her life, she's sporting a bumper-sticker, and it's for McCain/Palin.

375 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:12:07am

re: #361 tappin52

I hope they can make their case. I have a two year old granddaughter and it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl, Caylee.

I don't see the state proceeding without a body unless they have an air-tight case.

376 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:14:19am

re: #368 jim in virginia

OH. I'm glad they're still dancing!

/I miss those old swim meet days. A pain to drive all over the place, but fun once we got there.

Boarding school?!

/what'll they think of next?! ;-)

377 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:14:50am

re: #373 scottishbuzzsaw

You're very kind, Sweetie.

378 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:15:37am

re: #377 Sharmuta

Did you just call her Sweetie?!

;-)

379 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:15:39am

re: #367 Sharmuta

I've been saying for awhile now that he just needs to hammer home energy independence and fiscal sanity from Washington, and people will respond. I still believe that, so it's all I hope to hear tonight.

American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs. Coupled with Washington not spending like drunken sailors, the economy will improve.

That's a winning message. Run that for an ad, John!

I want to hear more about ACORN and fraud in addition to the tax message.

380 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:16:15am

re: #372 Kenneth

I see. They seems somehow innoculated against any critcism of the One. They argue that the fact Obama sat in Wright's pews for 20 years listening to his racist preaching doesn't prove Obama actually shares those views. You have to believe against all evidence.

Perverse faith.

381 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:16:34am

re: #363 Scion9
As far as I can tell it is circumstantial.

382 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:18:23am

re: #327 littleoldlady

Obama's 95% Illusion.

Redistribution of wealth by any other name still stinks.

383 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:22:17am

re: #382 Oriculum

Redistribution of wealth by any other name still stinks.

Redistribution of wealth? Isn't that a Marxist, communist concept? Surely you don't think Obama would... I mean...

Aw, you're SERIOUS, aren't you? You actually think Obama would do something like THAT?

/

384 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:23:42am

re: #379 MandyManners

I want to hear more about ACORN and fraud in addition to the tax message.

I think most folks expect a bit of fraud from politicians. I didn't say like, or that they agree with it, I'm just saying that off-hand I couldn't name you a pol that I'd be comfortable with holding my wallet while I jumped in to save a little old bikini model from drowning.

Acorn, maybe. That thing might have some legs, if you could make people see just how dangerous it is to make people question the legality and fairness of our elections. Remember, the reason Nixon gave for not calling out the stolen '60 election was because he felt that the country wouldn't be served well by it.

385 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:23:47am

Good Morning Lizard Nation. Hillary on FNC with Gretchen Carlson.
She is claiming that she warned about Freddie & Fannie years ago & does not remember McCain issuing any warning .Surprise.
She conveniently forgets that the Clinton Admin pushed the CRA & appointed Franklin Raines.
Part of his remuneration was based on number of mortgages, no quality control.

386 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:23:53am

re: #378 littleoldlady

If the shoe fits.

/You're a Sweetie, too, lol.

387 akak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:26:59am

re: #380 MandyManners

Perverse faith.

Moonbatitis, BDS, Bush-bots whatever it's called - sometimes people will close their eyes to the truth no matter how hard one yells. Stop yelling punch them in the gut.

388 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:28:35am

re: #384 razorbacker

I think most folks expect a bit of fraud from politicians. I didn't say like, or that they agree with it, I'm just saying that off-hand I couldn't name you a pol that I'd be comfortable with holding my wallet while I jumped in to save a little old bikini model from drowning.

Acorn, maybe. That thing might have some legs, if you could make people see just how dangerous it is to make people question the legality and fairness of our elections. Remember, the reason Nixon gave for not calling out the stolen '60 election was because he felt that the country wouldn't be served well by it.

I know of no one who expects this level of illegality.

389 Globular Cluster  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:29:26am

Oh brother, NYTimes/SeeBS poll has Obama up by 14%. Methinks this is crap but who nows. The MSM wants to demoralize McCain supporters.

390 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:29:37am

re: #385 opnion

Good Morning Lizard Nation. Hillary on FNC with Gretchen Carlson.
She is claiming that she warned about Freddie & Fannie years ago & does not remember McCain issuing any warning .Surprise.
She conveniently forgets that the Clinton Admin pushed the CRA & appointed Franklin Raines.
Part of his remuneration was based on number of mortgages, no quality control.

I hit MUTE when she said blaming this on Dodd and Frank was "a stretch."

391 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:29:59am

re: #389 Globular Cluster

The MSM wants to demoralize McCain supporters.

Ya think?

392 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:30:39am

re: #389 Globular Cluster

Oh brother, NYTimes/SeeBS poll has Obama up by 14%. Methinks this is crap but who nows. The MSM wants to demoralize McCain supporters.

Well, Saruman tried to demoralize the Hobbits!

393 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:31:46am

re: #372 Kenneth

I see. They seems somehow innoculated against any critcism of the One. They argue that the fact Obama sat in Wright's pews for 20 years listening to his racist preaching doesn't prove Obama actually shares those views. You have to believe against all evidence.


He had to drive almost 8 hours past lots of Christian Churches to get to Rev Wright. Why would he do that when every Sunday was like "Death to America Day" in Iran? Unless of course anybody actually believes his preposterous claim that he heard none of that stuff.

394 rightside  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:04am

re: #365 alien_mind

Exactly! no where else on this planet does everyone have the potential to achieve the American dream. It's there for the taking, not the handing out. One need only apply themselves.

395 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:27am

re: #388 MandyManners

I know of no one who expects this level of illegality.

Acorn isn't doing anything this election that they haven't been doing since about 1970. They're just having the light turned on them.

And they're a bigger organization, now. Subsidize something with tax dollars and you're likely to get more of it.

396 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:38am

re: #392 MandyManners

Well, Saruman tried to demoralize the Hobbits!

Who slipped that THC into my tea?

397 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:45am
Look at the party ID samples in every poll that “worries” you and see what the party ID breakdown is: the national breakdown should be 39% Dem, 35% Republican, and 26% Independent. The polls that “worry” Eeyores have Democrats at 45% or above in terms of party ID breakdown — with Republicans as low as 20%. In the last 20 years, Democrats have only had a 4% party ID advantage over Republicans. Why on Earth would that historic fact change in 2008 — and swing to a 25% or more Democrat advantage? That’s ridiculous. And everything Eeyores run around with, crazed over, is equally ridiculous if they’d just take the time to critically think through it.

Thank you, Hillbuzz.

398 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:33:22am

re: #390 MandyManners

I hit MUTE when she said blaming this on Dodd and Frank was "a stretch."

She never actually explained why it is a stretch, just that it's all Bush's fault.

399 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:33:32am

re: #396 MandyManners

Who slipped that THC into my tea?

*evil grin*

400 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:15am

re: #395 razorbacker

Acorn isn't doing anything this election that they haven't been doing since about 1970. They're just having the light turned on them.

And they're a bigger organization, now. Subsidize something with tax dollars and you're likely to get more of it.

All the more reason to nail it to BHO. His claim that giving ACORN $800,000.00 was okay because it was during the primaries is ludicrous.

401 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:16am

re: #393 opnion

Is that true? 8 hours?!

/typo? miles?

402 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:44am

re: #398 opnion

She never actually explained why it is a stretch, just that it's all Bush's fault.

I'm glad I missed that.

403 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:54am
404 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:35:08am

re: #391 Sharmuta

Ya think?

What a shock!

W. opens this Friday, but W.B. is going to hold off
on pro-McCain movie until after the election.

405 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:35:11am

re: #399 scottishbuzzsaw

*evil grin*

Where are the DingDongs?

406 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:36:44am

re: #401 littleoldlady

Is that true? 8 hours?!

/typo? miles?


Good catch, it's eight miles. I mapquested it. Thank's

407 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:38:55am

re: #403 taxfreekiller

I don't know exactly how to say this without sounding condescending or priggish, and I don't want to do that 'cause I've always enjoyed your posts.

Even when I didn't understand them.

But I find this format so much easier to read and comprehend.

408 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:39:33am

re: #403 taxfreekiller

I've looked for it on-line but, this was what I found.

[Link: www.protest.net...]

409 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:40:58am

re: #383 Karridine

Redistribution of wealth? Isn't that a Marxist, communist concept? Surely you don't think Obama would... I mean...

Aw, you're SERIOUS, aren't you? You actually think Obama would do something like THAT?

/

I know. It's hard to believe. The messiah might just have a slight lean to the left.

410 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:41:41am

Good morning, lizards.

WTF is with Chuck Hagel and his wife, Lilibet?

Michelle Obama to host Hagel's wife at last debate

“I am honored to join Michelle Obama at the debate tomorrow night and to strongly support Senator Obama as our country’s next president,” Lilibet Hagel said in a statement released by the Obama campaign.

411 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:41:43am

re: #385 opnion

Good Morning Lizard Nation. Hillary on FNC with Gretchen Carlson.
She is claiming that she warned about Freddie & Fannie years ago & does not remember McCain issuing any warning .Surprise.
She conveniently forgets that the Clinton Admin pushed the CRA & appointed Franklin Raines.
Part of his remuneration was based on number of mortgages, no quality control.

Morning, Lizards.

(Good morning, littleoldlady.)

So, now Hill is in the tank for The One, as well?

How will the PUMAs react to this, I wonder? Suddenly be overwhelmed with an irresistible impulse to pull the lever for The Obamessiah?

Or is she trying to triangulate ala' Bill?

/in which case, she may be trying to distance herself from an epic fail on Obama's part

Don't blame me- I did all I could for him. Now, about 2012.............


cheers

eon

412 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:43:54am

re: #410 jorline

Chuck has struck me as a RINO for a long time. Maybe he's just dropping the mask.

413 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:44:27am

Hey! eon! :-)

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:45:09am

re: #406 opnion

Good catch, it's eight miles. I mapquested it. Thank's

Well, it is Chicago traffic.

415 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:45:09am

re: #409 Oriculum

I know. It's hard to believe. The messiah might just have a slight lean to the left.


The "One" is neither left or right, up or down or constrained by any dimension.
He is as you know, a transcendent Lightworker. His positions & commands are not for us to understand only to obey.

416 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:37am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WOW! Both ways?
;-)

417 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:39am

re: #410 jorline

I think we know who lost their marbles in Viet Nam, and it wasn't McCain.

418 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:42am

If you need another reason to oppose Obiden

You know, that would explain a lot.

419 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:51am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, it is Chicago traffic.


Are you suggesting that Barry is constrained by traffic jams as a mere mortal?
Repent!

420 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:48:04am

re: #410 jorline

Good morning, lizards.

WTF is with Chuck Hagel and his wife, Lilibet?

Michelle Obama to host Hagel's wife at last debate

Maybe Lilibet has a good waffle recipe.

421 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:48:09am

re: #415 opnion

The "One" is neither left or right, up or down or constrained by any dimension.
He is as you know, a transcendent Lightworker. His positions & commands are not for us to understand only to obey.

So, when he Ascends, do we all have tickets on the Lightship?

/channeling Ruth Norman and her deceased husband from the Unarius Foundation

cheers

eon

422 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:48:47am

re: #418 razorbacker

If you need another reason to oppose Obiden

You know, that would explain a lot.

LOL!

423 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:05am

re: #410 jorline

The Hagels found an old box discarded by the liberal republicans in the 60s, and mis-read the directions.

424 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:19am

re: #412 razorbacker

Chuck has struck me as a RINO for a long time. Maybe he's just dropping the mask.

Perhaps this should be a part of Mrs. Hagel's headdress apparel tonight.

425 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:20am

letter I wrote to the elections board.

To the election board, Swain County, NC.

I would like to thank you for the additional new registered Democrat voters here in Swain County, Cherokee NC.
36 million new registered Democrat voters in Western North Carolina is great for the party and anyone we decide to put into office. But,
As I had planed to vote for McCain/Palin this year I figure my chances are very slim.
That is not my problem!
The reason I am writing is that I have noticed most of the Wooden Indians here in Cherokee, N. C. have Obama stickers and many have cast ballots for Obama.
This Wooden Indian- Chief Splinter-in-the-Ass
outside the HANNAH Casino and Dining Hall did cast his ballot for Obama.
Upon further inspection my wife noticed that he is not a true red blooded Native American Indian. (see inserted picture) [Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]
She discovered upon further inspection that he is a Chinese imitation plastic Wooden Indian.
I feel that allowing foreign persons to register and vote in NC should be investigated.
As always thanking you,
keyboard.
P.S.
in case the inevitable happens.

LONG LIVE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY,

AND SEIGE HEIL

OBAMA.

426 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:35am

Been preparing a blog post on the current mess, ACORN, Obama, and Barney Franks. Can anyone source the story Franks was dating a Fannie exec? There has to be a great joke in there somewhere but I haven't thought of it yet.

427 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:51:41am

re: #411 eon

I think she's come under a lot of pressure because 0bama's feeling the PUMA pressure. She has to make it look like she's playing along because she's not going to be in a position in the party to accomplish her future plans otherwise.

Political Rule #1- never trust a Clinton.

428 yesandno  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:52:14am

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Your spare change belong to us.

429 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:52:37am

re: #426 rancher

I saw it at hotair and stuck it in the spinoff links a few weeks ago- check there.

430 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:53:55am

re: #420 MandyManners

Maybe Lilibet has a good waffle recipe.

Morning, Mandy...I'll bet she does.

After the debate, the whole gang are dining here.

431 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:54:02am

Warren Stephens on Obiden tax plan

Senator Obama’s plan is a redistribution of income from those who pay taxes to those who do not. It is nothing more than the granddaddy of all welfare plans and voters need to know it. For Senators Obama and Biden to couch this issue as one of fairness and a “patriotic duty” is an attempt to deceive the American public as to the facts.


Stephens points are well-taken, but I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest that maybe a billionaire investment banker isn’t the ideal proponent for that message right now, even if he is one of our state’s leading corporate citizens.

What he said.

432 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:54:35am

re: #403 taxfreekiller

TFK, here's the PDF... Rules for Power (Alinsky, Rules for Radicals)

433 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:55:07am

re: #426 rancher

Been preparing a blog post on the current mess, ACORN, Obama, and Barney Franks. Can anyone source the story Franks was dating a Fannie exec? There has to be a great joke in there somewhere but I haven't thought of it yet.

There are probably several, and most of them would get deleted.

/deservedly so, most obviously because it implies that somebody at Fannie actually found Frank somehow vaguely attractive

cheers

eon

434 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:56:05am

re: #423 Pullus Iulius

The Hagels found an old box discarded by the liberal republicans in the 60s, and mis-read the directions.

Was that one of the notorious lock boxes that algore talked about in 2000?

435 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:57:00am

Just linkey-ed it.

The original report from African Press International, where they get a call from Michelle Obama.

She calls bloggers questioning her husband's credentials racist and evil, and when API asked her about the detention of Jerome Corsi in Kenya (Oh yes, API went there--unlike our own press), her response was as follows, according to API:

"she got irritated and and simply told API not to dig that which will support evil people who are out to stop her husband from getting the presidency.

When asked who she was referring to as the evil people, she stated that she was not going to elaborate much on that but that many conservative white people and even some African Americans were against her husband, but that this group of blacks were simply doing so because of envy."

And the money shot?

"Mrs Obama asked API to write a good story about her husband and that will earn API an invitation to the innoguration ceremony when, as she put it , her husband will be installed as the next President of the United States of America next year."

Go go free press in Africa!

436 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:57:32am

wasn't dating it is his significant other, the one who was running a whore house for odd people from the basement of barney's town house, but that ok right? re: #426 rancher

437 AndyMacOP  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:57:37am

Question for all lizards: Does anyone here actually believe that the person who yelled "kill him" at the Palin rally was a conservative McCain supporter?

Obamatons are well known to deface, destroy and disrupt all McCain signage and events. Anything to make us out to be racists pigs will benefit BHO. I can't take many more of these columns on racism. Andrew Greeley's piece in this mornings Chicago Sun-Times is particularly irritating.

438 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:58:16am

Wow, I didn't know Barney Frank was gay..........not that there's anything wrong with that.

439 profitsbeard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:58:25am

Will John McCain ask Obama who ghostwrote his 'autobiography' tonight?

One suspect is domestic terrorist (and similarly nautical metaphorical author) Bill Ayers.

Mac, ask him.

Just for the denial.

Somebody helped Barry, who can only say UMMM and ERRR and AHHH on his own.

440 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:58:37am

re: #437 AndyMacOP

No- I'm not buying that it was a conservative.

441 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:59:51am

A former Acorn Organizer, Gregory Hall now on FNC.
He excuses the workers & blames the Leadership.
Odd interview, he wants Acorn reformed not destroyed.
How in the world do you reform something so thoroughly corrupt?

442 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:00:25am

re: #426 rancher

Been preparing a blog post on the current mess, ACORN, Obama, and Barney Franks. Can anyone source the story Franks was dating a Fannie exec? There has to be a great joke in there somewhere but I haven't thought of it yet.

Barney has always been willing to stand behind his friends.

443 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:01:44am

re: #437 AndyMacOP

While your scenario is plausible, there is no proof. It is also plausible that it was a McCain supporter, and it also plausible that he didn't mean what he said literally, but more of a 'go get him'. However, I haven't yet seen an audio of anyone yelling 'Kill him' in the first place. I saw one where I guy yelled 'Terrorist', and it was reported that he was yelling 'Kill him'.

Obama supporters chant 'Racists' at McCain rallies, which is the exact same kind of slur that 'Terrorist' would be.

444 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:02:02am

re: #430 jorline

Morning, Mandy...I'll bet she does.

After the debate, the whole gang are dining here.

That's a long way to go for some waffles. But, I'm sure BHO just loooooooves anything to do with Missouri.

445 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:02:57am

re: #420 MandyManners

Well... Sen. Hagel is lame. So I guess that means Lilibet is lame as well. That's lame by association, ain't it?

446 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:03:22am

Whe I called home last night, my wife told me that my McCain/Palin yard sign has been vandalized again. What is with these Obama people?

447 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:03:30am

re: #437 AndyMacOP

Whatever it was, it was certainly NOT as it was reported in the MSM. Of that you can be certain.

448 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:04:11am

re: #437 AndyMacOP

I think if you research that you'll find that the 'kill him' remark referred to a mention of Bill Ayers.

Ironically, Ayers really can't say much about it, since it dovetails so well his his own past actions.

449 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:05:15am

re: #448 razorbacker

I think if you research that you'll find that the 'kill him' remark referred to a mention of Bill Ayers.

Ironically, Ayers really can't say much about it, since it dovetails so well his his own past actions.

Yes, that's what I heard to...it was after the mention of Ayers name that the 'kill him' was supposedly heard...poetic justice?

450 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:06:16am

re: #449 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, scottish...hope you're well today.

451 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:06:23am

re: #448 razorbacker

There's been another instance, supposedly.

452 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:06:36am

re: #449 scottishbuzzsaw


Gah! 'To' = 'too'...more coffee...

453 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:06:53am

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen!

Did I miss anything?

454 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:06:59am

hiya cuz, feeling bettah today?

455 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:07:15am

re: #445 Cap'n DOC

Well... Sen. Hagel is lame. So I guess that means Lilibet is lame as well. That's lame by association, ain't it?

Maybe she's into Tammy Wynette.

456 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:07:42am

re: #450 jorline

Good morning, scottish...hope you're well today.

Mornin' jorline...all's well here...how about with you?

(your avatar always makes me smile!)

457 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:07:43am

*sniff*

458 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:07:46am

re: #453 laZardo

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen!

Did I miss anything?

Good morning/evening laZardo.

459 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:07:50am

re: #442 razorbacker

Barney has always been willing to stand behind his friends.

I heard it was the other way around. Either way. EWWWW

460 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:09:01am

re: #452 scottishbuzzsaw

Gah! 'To' = 'too'...more coffee...


I often experience that particular grammatical mistake, is there a simple way to bridge it? Like 1+1=2?

461 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:09:16am

A day or so ago I ruffled some feathers with a post critical of teachers.

Now this guy, I'm not so critical of his teaching...There's some good stuff here

And no, I'm not even going to pretend that I've read all of them.

Or intend to.

462 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:09:31am

And if idiots/mobys want to yell out "kill him" at rallies- I hope they enjoy their chat with the USSS.

463 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:09:35am

re: #456 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' jorline...all's well here...how about with you?

(your avatar always makes me smile!)

Thanks...all is well here. I would love to walk on the beach today, but it's about to rain.

Smile on scottish ;)

464 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:09:42am

re: #454 ratso

hiya cuz, feeling bettah today?

Mornin' Cousin...yes, feeling better...Mandy's 'whack' has healed nicely..;>)...how are you today?

465 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:09:52am

re: #453 laZardo

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen!

Did I miss anything?

Hold on to your hat.

466 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:10:39am

re: #449 scottishbuzzsaw

Naah... Widemouthed Moby!

/not poetic justice

467 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:10:43am

re: #464 scottishbuzzsaw
things are good

468 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:11:06am

re: #437 AndyMacOP

Question for all lizards: Does anyone here actually believe that the person who yelled "kill him" at the Palin rally was a conservative McCain supporter?

Obamatons are well known to deface, destroy and disrupt all McCain signage and events. Anything to make us out to be racists pigs will benefit BHO. I can't take many more of these columns on racism. Andrew Greeley's piece in this mornings Chicago Sun-Times is particularly irritating.

It's an old trick going back to Mussolini (when running for Prime Minister of Italy in 1921), and of course He Who Must Not Be Named For Fear Of Invoking Godwin's Law (HWMNBNFFOIGL). Adolf accused everyone from Bruening to the Communists from plotting to kill him during the 1933 German elections. In fact, after he became Chancellor, there were at least 53 known plots to depose or "TweeP" him- mostly from within the NSDAP itself. And sending rabble-rousers into opposition rallies to pull just this sort of gag was SOP with the SA.

Mussolini, BTW, was deposed by the Italian Fascists after it became obvious even to his own General Staff that he was going to destroy Italy through his own arrogance, megalomania, and sheer thundering incompetence and stupidity. I just finished reading a book on Benny the Moose and Italy during World War Two, and I was struck by the resemblance between him, Obama, and Charles the Bold of Burgundy (aka Charles the Rash in his own time).

cheers

eon

469 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:11:30am

Found this:

The news media have covered the relationship in the past, but there have been no mentions since 2005, according to Nexis and despite the collapse of Fannie Mae. The July 3, 1998, Reliable Source column in The Washington Post reported Frank, who is openly gay, had a relationship with Herb Moses, an executive for the now-government controlled Fannie Mae. The column revealed the two had split up at the time but also said Frank was referring to Moses as his “spouse.” Another Washington Post report said Frank called Moses his “lover” and that the two were “still friends” after the breakup.

470 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:12:00am

re: #465 RememberSekhmet?

And that's why Mandy calls her WAB...

/scary, huh

471 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:13:00am

re: #469 rancher

wat

/mind-frazzling?

472 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:13:21am

re: #457 MandyManners

*sniff*

Good morning Mandy..... I told you yesterday to get some Zicam, the stuff really works......

473 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:13:59am

Every day it becomes more and more apparent what a corrupt man Barack Obama is, a smooth-talking narcissistic shyster who is financially and morally bankrupt.

Every day it becomes more and more apparent that the Democrats are so desperate for a win that they will attack, harass and intimidate supporters of their opponent and organize MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD in order to secure one.

Every day it becomes more and more apparent that Barack Obama lacks the experience, judgement, and moral fiber that is essential for a Presidential candidate.

Every day, more fraud and more lies come to light. More questionable associations, more corrupt business dealings.

The wool is being pulled over the collective eyes of the American Public, who are more interested in watching reruns of "Dancing with the Stars" than they are in taking a hard look at the man behind the tailored suit and glittery, empty rhetoric.

The thing that we have fought against for years is now right on our doorstep... socialism... and the structure of this great Nation will FOREVER BE CHANGED because people are too apathetic and too stupid to recognize that they are being manipulated.

From the Wiki:


Socialists mainly share the belief that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital, and creates an unequal society. All socialists advocate the creation of an egalitarian society, in which wealth and power are distributed more evenly

Quote from Barack Obama, just a few days ago:

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody ... I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."



Obama: Sure, I'll meet with Castro, Chavez, Ahmadinejad, etc


I despair, lizards.

How in HELL can people be stupid enough - or negligent enough- to vote for this man?

474 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:14:10am

re: #451 Sharmuta

There's been another instance, supposedly.

Anybody got a tape?

'Sides, I'm almost certain I heard Obiden standing under my window a while ago shouting 'Death to America".

475 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:14:40am

mornin dorian, your right I fly often and always use it prior to flight and as soon as I get a sniffle.

476 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:14:40am

re: #472 doriangrey

Good morning Mandy..... I told you yesterday to get some Zicam, the stuff really works......

The *sniff* was not regarding my sinuses.

I have Zicam but, I only use it as directed.

477 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:16:05am

re: #466 Karridine

Naah... Widemouthed Moby!

/not poetic justice

It truly wouldn't surprise me...

478 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:16:08am

re: #473 Irish Rose

DO NOT DESPAIR! That's what the msm wants. Go read a PUMA blog, Rose. Trust me- they help pick you up.

479 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:17:13am

re: #473 Irish Rose

And every day I feel more inclined to prepare myself for life under big brother. Having been raised as a 90s kid...it shouldn't be that hard, can it?

480 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:17:54am

re: #478 Sharmuta

DO NOT DESPAIR! That's what the msm wants. Go read a PUMA blog, Rose. Trust me- they help pick you up.

Excellent advice!

481 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:18:02am

re: #478 Sharmuta

Roger that (reading PUMA blogs), Rose! A real pick-me-up! :D

482 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:18:12am

re: #473 Irish Rose

Oh- and quit going to malkin's.

483 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:18:35am

re: #476 MandyManners

The *sniff* was not regarding my sinuses.

I have Zicam but, I only use it as directed.

Sorry my bad, you had mentioned having a cold yesterday. I hope you are feeling better.... ;)

484 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:19:21am

re: #482 Sharmuta

Oh- and quit going to malkin's.

Haven't been there in awhile...what's going on?

485 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:19:42am

[Link: www.puma08.com...] for an easy link

486 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:20:05am

re: #483 doriangrey


Mornin' Dorian! How are you today?

487 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:20:18am

re: #475 ratso

mornin dorian, your right I fly often and always use it prior to flight and as soon as I get a sniffle.

Good morning ratso, cough cough, er, got any Baileys this morning? I'm sure their will be plenty of coffee here shortly.... ;)

488 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:20:51am

re: #484 scottishbuzzsaw

She doesn't like Mac. Hasn't for a long time, and I think it's clouding her judgment.

489 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:21:00am

re: #486 scottishbuzzsaw

Mornin' Dorian! How are you today?

Doing pretty good marshmallow, how about yourself?

490 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:21:26am

heres a little for ya partner, gosh need another bottle already. The last to da cuz.

491 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:22:10am

re: #488 Sharmuta

She doesn't like Mac. Hasn't for a long time, and I think it's clouding her judgment.

Sorry to hear that...*sigh*

492 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:22:15am

re: #488 Sharmuta

She doesn't like Mac. Hasn't for a long time, and I think it's clouding her judgment.

Aint that the truth. She has never forgiven his immigration stance and is still pissed off at him because of it.

493 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:22:30am

re: #485 ratso

I really like Hillbuzz a lot.

494 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:23:43am

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 18, 1998; Page D01

He recently broke up with Herb Moses, whom he referred to as his "lover," after a relationship of more than 10 years.

So we have a time line, from Franks own lips, 1988 to 1998. Now I need to know when Moses was at Fannie and when Franks was overseeing Fannie.

495 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:23:43am

re: #490 ratso

heres a little for ya partner, gosh need another bottle already. The last to da cuz.

ROTFLMAO.... Good use for it too.... She is a cutie pie and a little Baileys just makes her sweeter and cuter.... ;)

496 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:24:30am

Cheer up, they said, things could be worse. So I cheered up, and whatdoyaknow, things got worse.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s most loyal supporters here say they have a new reason to back the man who dashed her presidential hopes: They want Sen. Barack Obama to appoint her to the U.S. Supreme Court if he wins the White House...“Having her on the Supreme Court would help us a lot. She could make sure we cement Roe v. Wade,” said Judi Woods, a Little Rock supporter who campaigned for Mrs. Clinton across the country during the prolonged primary

It'd actually be a smart move for Obiden. I've never heard of a Supreme Court justice stepping down to run for POTUS.

497 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:24:42am

re: #489 doriangrey

Doing pretty good marshmallow, how about yourself?

LOL! Doing well, Grumpy, doing well...did you bring the coffee?

498 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:25:28am

re: #492 doriangrey

Aint that the truth. She has never forgiven his immigration stance and is still pissed off at him because of it.

And she's entitled to her opinion. But if she thinks 0bama is going to be better on other issues that matter to her- she has another thing coming.

Let's get Mac in the W.H. first- then we can argue about finer points of policy.

499 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:25:45am

re: #494 rancher

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 18, 1998; Page D01

So we have a time line, from Franks own lips, 1988 to 1998. Now I need to know when Moses was at Fannie and when Franks was overseeing Fannie.

Go get 'em, Rancher! :D

500 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:26:01am

re: #493 Sharmuta

I really like Hillbuzz a lot.


thanks, looks to be an interesting site

501 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:26:08am

re: #495 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO.... Good use for it too.... She is a cutie pie and a little Baileys just makes her sweeter and cuter.... ;)

You really are trying to destroy my reputation as a curmudgeon, arent you?! ;>)

502 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:26:23am

I have the coffee.

Regular cuppa coffee for most of us . . .

and a special coffee for dorian.

503 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:26:36am

re: #478 Sharmuta

Our lives depend on this election. There's no room for despair. In 1941, in Listen To The People, Stephen Vincent Benet wrote:
Totalitarian Voice:
My secret weapon is no secret weapon.
It is to turn all men against all men
For my own purposes. It is to use
Good men to do my work without their knowledge,
Not only the secret traitor and the spy.
It is to raise a question and a doubt
Where there is faith. It is to subjugate
Men’s minds before their bodies feel the steel.
It is to use
All envy, all despair, all prejudice
For my own work.
If you’ve an envy or a prejudice
A nicely grown, well-rounded piece of hate,
I’ll play on it and use it to your ruin.
My generals are General Distrust,
General Fear, General Half-A-Heart,
General It’s-Too-Late,
General Greed and Major-General Hate,
And they go walking in civilian clothes
In your own streets and whisper in your ears.

504 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:26:43am

re: #496 razorbacker

Cheer up, they said, things could be worse. So I cheered up, and whatdoyaknow, things got worse.

Just when things look their darkest, they go pitch black.

/Paul Newman, RIP

505 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:27:42am

re: #498 Sharmuta

And she's entitled to her opinion. But if she thinks 0bama is going to be better on other issues that matter to her- she has another thing coming.

Let's get Mac in the W.H. first- then we can argue about finer points of policy.

So few of us were enthusiastic about McCain, but the alternative is unthinkable!

506 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:27:49am

Sorry lizards.
I don't often start my day out with a rant, but I am sorely frustrated by the American peoples' rush toward collective suicide.

For the love of God, if we are not able to turn this thing around the United States of America is going to become a socialist country.

America as we know it, will be gone.
In it's place will be something that we don't even recognize any more. Freedom of speech? Gone. Freedom to practice your religion of choice? Gone. American history? Rewritten.

America the Beautiful... this is the legacy that we are leaving for our children? This is how we honor those who have laid down their very lives down through generations, for what this country stands for?

We are a nation of walking dead people, being forced over the cliff because we've allowed ourselves to become anesthetized by our own apathy.

May God forgive us.

507 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:28:18am

re: #494 rancher

All during that time frame. It's a matter of public record. Barney has been head of that committee a long time.

I'm not much of a Bible scholar, but I'm willing to bet the phrase "Go down Moses" was heard in that household.

508 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:29:49am

re: #503 Pullus Iulius

I'm tired of Eeyores. We're going to win. If people are so concerned, then the solution is to head to the local republican HQ and get involved. Go the MacDaddy's site and volunteer there.

509 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:30:48am

re: #506 Irish Rose

Rose- stop. Go read a PUMA blog and quit reading Eeyore sites.

We are not going to lose. 0bama will not be President.

510 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:32:02am

Rose- read this

511 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:32:08am

re: #484 scottishbuzzsaw

Haven't been there in awhile...what's going on?

Relentless negativism.

512 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:32:33am

re: #498 Sharmuta

And she's entitled to her opinion. But if she thinks 0bama is going to be better on other issues that matter to her- she has another thing coming.

Let's get Mac in the W.H. first- then we can argue about finer points of policy.

Very true, I like MM a lot, but on this issue she is quite simply wrong. My priorities, as her's also should be, are to save the country first, so that we have a country to nit pick the little details over.

513 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:33:16am

re: #479 laZardo

And every day I feel more inclined to prepare myself for life under big brother. Having been raised as a 90s kid...it shouldn't be that hard, can it?

I've been doing some reading to prepare just in case;

Methuselah's Children, Revolt in 2100, Sixth Column, Take Back Your Government - Robert Heinlein

The Order of the Death's Head- Heinz Hohne (History of the SchutzStaffel)

Night of the Long Knives- Count Nikolai Tolstoy (The destruction of the SturmAbteilung by the SchutzStaffel when Hitler no longer needed the SA)

Age of the Guerrilla; A Study of the New Warfare - Francois' Sully (One of the earliest works in English to reference Islamist terrorism)

Journey of the Jihadist- Fawaz A. Gerges (An apologist book for Islamist militancy- I'm using it as a reference for The One's potential "diplomatic initiatives")

Borderlands; The Ultimate Exploration Of The Unknown- Mike Dash (A good overview of the sorts of fringe beliefs likely to be considered the absolute literal truth by Obamatrons- note that Dash himself is an impartial skeptic)

And

The Survival Armory- Duncan Long ( I disagree with him on the utility of a shotgun- like the Gunsite staff, I regard the repeating 12-gauge shotgun as the "thinking man's weapon" for CQB, right up there with the lever-action, pistol-caliber carbine. We do agree on the 9mm pistol, though)

Dreary thoughts, I know, but as Col. Cooper once said, we may be headed for dreary times.

cheers

eon

514 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:33:18am

re: #511 Irish Rose

Relentless negativism.

Sweetie, you're too tender hearted for a steady diet of that...listen to Shar and read something else...please. {Irish Rose}

515 legalpad  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:34:00am

re: #473 Irish Rose

"spread the wealth around"
translation: "You're money or your life."

I saw him say that. I couldn't believe it. He might as well hold a gun to the plumbers head.

516 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:34:30am

re: #513 eon

I'm thinking Max Sparks(?)' Zombie Survival Guide.

517 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:34:43am

re: #506 Irish Rose

Preach on, Sister.

*Puts on old fart's hat*

But you do realize, with the exception of about 8 years, that America has been trending socialist since at least 1932?

That warm, helping embrace of the government can turn into a bearhug pretty quick.

518 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:37:11am

re: #517 razorbacker

Preach on, Sister.

*Puts on old fart's hat*

But you do realize, with the exception of about 8 years, that America has been trending socialist since at least 1932?

That warm, helping embrace of the government can turn into a bearhug Iron fist pretty quick.

Yup, and what are the eight most feared words in the English language?

We're from the Government, we're here to help........

519 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:37:13am

re: #510 Sharmuta

Rose- read this

Thanks, I needed that.

520 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:37:45am

re: #502 reine.de.tout

I have the coffee.

Regular cuppa coffee for most of us . . .

and a special coffee for dorian.

Good morning, reine...thanks for the coffee...how are you today?

521 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:38:03am

It just may be time to buy a couple extra cheap shotguns and a metric butt-ton of 00-Buck.

522 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:38:28am

re: #506 Irish Rose

America as we know it, will be gone.
In it's place will be something that we don't even recognize any more. Freedom of speech? Gone. Freedom to practice your religion of choice? Gone. American history? Rewritten.

Yes'm, so look to #503, above, and take heart in the fundamental Americanness of Americans, black and white and brown and yellow... we're NOT 'ignorant hicks, clinging bitterly to guns and Bibles', we're going to be making an America First decision in November...

Thanks in part to Never Find Out...

523 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:38:33am

re: #507 razorbacker
OK, two jokes to choose from. What commitee? Banking?

Your search - barney franks dating fannie executive Herb Moses - did not match any documents.



I only get hits on blogs, nothing on Google News.

524 legalpad  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:39:02am

re: #515 legalpad

"spread the wealth around"
translation: "You're Your money or your life."

I saw him say that. I couldn't believe it. He might as well hold a gun to the plumbers head.

Sometime spelling and punctuation are lost when my fingers hit the keys. Happens sometimes when I don't preview.

525 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:39:36am

re: #521 Oriculum

Heck, any time's the right time to buy another gun.

526 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:39:51am

Morning all!

How's the coffee?

Any donuts left?

527 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:39:57am

re: #517 razorbacker

IIRC The Manifesto's ideal condition for the transition to socialism is through capitalism, not rising out of some wartorn wilderness bombed to crap (e.g. Russia, E. Europe, North Korea). In his case, he intended it for Industrialized Germany on the eve of the 1848(?) revolts. Neither did Marx state (in the Manifesto anyway) exactly how long the intended "Revolution" was supposed to take.

In other words, this might as well be what Marx was talking about.

/had to read the book for an assignment in Political Science class.

528 jmf10003  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:40:44am

check out this video. is barry even a us citizen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:41:25am

Guns this morning, eh?

I'll be off to a show in a couple of weeks looking for a M1911 knock off for myself and any kind of smaller 45 ACP handgun for the misses.

Any suggestions on the latter?

530 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:41:52am

re: #526 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Morning all!

How's the coffee?

Any donuts left?

Reine's got the coffee, but Dorian ate all the donuts...

531 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:42:19am

Gay Patriot has this.

While Frank served on the House Banking Committee in the 1990s, his partner, Herb Moses, worked at Fannie Mae as assistant director of product initiatives from 1991 to 1998. The two lived together at that time, breaking up in 1998, “a few months after Moses ended his seven-year tenure at Fannie Mae.“

While Frank and Moses had “assured the Wall Street Journal in 1992 that they took pains to avoid any conflicts of interest,” others disagree.

532 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:42:33am

re: #522 Karridine

Yeah, they "never want to find out" what life in a peace-loving, tolerant society for everyone really is like!

///// ran out of state-alloted allocation for slash marks pretty damn quick

533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:43:14am

re: #530 scottishbuzzsaw

Reine's got the coffee, but Dorian ate all the donuts...

Already? Man, I gotta get going earlier...

534 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:43:18am

re: #520 scottishbuzzsaw

Good morning, reine...thanks for the coffee...how are you today?

I am fine today, trying to feel good about the upcoming election.

535 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:44:18am

re: #531 rancher

I'm guessing they'll cry "homophobe" when this is brought up against the people at the center of the mess. Clearly "sleeping your way to success" has no bounds.

/oh, and happy Hump Day!

536 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:44:23am

re: #530 scottishbuzzsaw

Reine's got the coffee, but Dorian ate all the donuts...

Hey.... I did not eat them all..... Just most of them..... ;p

537 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:44:25am

re: #518 doriangrey

Yup, and what are the eight most feared words in the English language?

We're from the Government, we're here to help........

pardon me dorian ya know, I am from "the government" and I am certainly "here to help".

538 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:44:49am

re: #531 rancher

Did it say what an assn't director of products initative did at Fannie?

539 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:45:40am

re: #533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Already? Man, I gotta get going earlier...

Would you like some Cranberry Orange Scones instead? (I hid them from you-know-who)

540 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:45:47am

re: #516 laZardo

I'm thinking Max Sparks(?)' Zombie Survival Guide.

Oh, I forgot to add

Atlas Shrugged- Ayn Rand

But I strongly suspect that most Lizards either own this book, or have read it, or are re-reading it as we speak.

/I have several copies, as I keep finding old paperbacks in second-hand stores.

On a related subject, check this out;

Dr. Helen; Is It Time To Go John Galt?

As Ben Franklin said,


Pessimists are happier than optimists. When things go badly, optimists are always disappointed. By comparison, I am a pessimist- when things go well, I am delightfully surprised.

cheers

eon

541 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:45:48am

re: #530 scottishbuzzsaw

Reine's got the coffee, but Dorian ate all the donuts...

Good grief! That Dorian . . .

Donuts - yum. Should be plenty for all


More coffee for coffee lovers.

542 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:45:53am

I think I have enough to source this. Thanks folks, I'll pimp the blog here when I'm done.

543 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:46:07am

Mornin' all. My condolences to Red Sox Lizards.

544 krycek  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:46:17am

re: #494 rancher

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 18, 1998; Page D01

So we have a time line, from Franks own lips, 1988 to 1998. Now I need to know when Moses was at Fannie and when Franks was overseeing Fannie.

Media Mum on Barney Frank's Fannie Mae Love Connection "Fannie Frank" served on the House Banking Committee the entire 10 years that he and Herb Moses were together.

545 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:47:06am

re: #539 scottishbuzzsaw

Would you like some Cranberry Orange Scones instead? (I hid them from you-know-who)

I'll pass... I'm not done pouting yet. ;-)

546 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:47:35am

re: #523 rancher

Sorry, I tend to think that everyone has better Googlefu than I.

From Fox news

To be honest, I don't know who this is

Washington Post
Towards the end of the story.

Hint: don't be so specific in your search terms. Try 'Barney Frank Herb Moses'

547 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:48:00am

re: #538 x-wing

Did it say what an assn't director of products initative did at Fannie?

I didn't read too far into the article so I don't know. Could be a joke in there as well.

548 Onslow  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:48:10am
549 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:48:21am

re: #545 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll pass... I'm not done pouting yet. ;-)

Oooo...Reine's brought more donuts...wow.

550 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:48:35am

re: #529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Guns this morning, eh?

I'll be off to a show in a couple of weeks looking for a M1911 knock off for myself and any kind of smaller 45 ACP handgun for the misses.

Any suggestions on the latter?

I fired a HK USP Compact the other day. It's not all that tiny, but it is definitely smaller than a full size USP or a 1911. It was pretty accurate, and HKs are pretty reliable. They are a bit pricey, though.

551 reine.de.tout  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:48:57am

bbl

552 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:49:21am

re: #549 scottishbuzzsaw

Oooo...Reine's brought more donuts...wow.

OK... but just one... *sniff*

553 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:49:42am

re: #537 ratso

pardon me dorian ya know, I am from "the government" and I am certainly "here to help".

Yer startin to scare me man..... :O

554 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:49:48am

re: #550 Oriculum

I fired a HK USP Compact the other day. It's not all that tiny, but it is definitely smaller than a full size USP or a 1911. It was pretty accurate, and HKs are pretty reliable. They are a bit pricey, though.

How pricey we talk'in about?

555 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:49:49am

re: #540 eon

And if things go wrong, pessimists are never disappointed. (;

556 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:49:51am

Good morning all...

So, here is my thinking this morning... Looking at all the polls and papers saying tonight is basically 'do or die' for John McCain (and basically the America we know and love), I thought about this...

Some people here keep saying that out of four or eight years of Barack Hussein Obama, will come our new Reagan, as he rose up out of the depths of the Carter era... However, what if, out of the depths of the Bush era, there arises Barack Hussein Obama, to undo everything that Reagan set forth on this country...

I heard Grover Norquist on with Bill Bennett this morning and his discussion regarding points of Barack Hussein Obama's plans are chilling... The term he kept brining up is that we must do what we can to prevent Obama's plan's that will have 'permanent damage' to America...

557 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:50:08am

re: #552 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Quit poutin' and stuff yer face LT!

558 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:50:20am

re: #552 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

OK... but just one... *sniff*

Are you going to eat that one? --------->

559 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:50:42am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

560 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:50:57am

re: #542 rancher

Great! Promote your blog when you have the post completed, Rancher! :D

561 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:51:32am

re: #553 doriangrey

awwwwwwww

562 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:51:37am

re: #547 rancher

I didn't read too far into the article so I don't know. Could be a joke in there as well.

I wasn't looking for the joke. I thought Fannie only bought mortgages so the title sounds kindda silly.

563 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:51:44am

Morning everyone! Rose, take not counsel of your fears. You've got one of the best congressmen around in Hoekstra and he won't let socialism take hold. My guy next door, Ehlers on the other hand? Not quite as confident.

564 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:51:56am

re: #557 pingjockey

Quit poutin' and stuff yer face LT!

Pass me another one... Dorian is sniffing my plate.

Besides, they taste a lot better than holding my breath till I turn blue.

565 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:51:59am

re: #559 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

/wipes powdered sugar off face... why good morning hoops..... Donuts you say? Nope aint seen no donuts round bout these parts in some time now.... ;)

566 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:52:26am

re: #556 tfc3rid
Speaking for just me, I'd rather not see what obambi and his minions could do to this country with 8 years or even 4 with a veto proof Senate and a majority in the House.

567 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:52:26am

re: #554 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

How pricey we talk'in about?

Around $800.

568 gregg  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:53:15am

I don't see any McCain ads on TV and was wondering why? I split my time between MN and MI, so maybe McCain considers those states lost causes? Although I hear the same from people in FL which is definitely a battleground state.

Do they not have any money? Is it possible McCain is saving his money for a last minute push? Would running ads be considered racist? Any ideas?

569 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:53:22am

re: #559 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?


hiya hoops

570 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:53:34am

re: #538 x-wing

Moses "helped develop many of Fannie Mae’s affordable housing and home improvement lending programs."

571 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:53:37am

re: #559 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

Doing very well...how are you today, HH? Better grab a donut quickly!

572 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:54:03am

re: #564 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
My better half has a shirt she wears to work..."If you choke a smurf, what color does it turn?"

573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:54:16am

re: #567 Oriculum

Around $800.

Cool... that's the top of the range I'm expecting for the M1911 ($600-$800).

I just gotta make sure they take the same ammo...

574 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:54:17am

re: #565 doriangrey

/wipes powdered sugar off face... why good morning hoops..... Donuts you say? Nope aint seen no donuts round bout these parts in some time now.... ;)

LOL
how is that secret government project going Dorian?
also..how close are you to the fires?

575 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:54:26am

re: #557 pingjockey

Quit poutin' and stuff yer face LT!

Man.... I cant believe you of all people are helping an ossifer get some grub.... I'd have though your time in the Navy would have cured you of that malady.... ;)

576 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:54:29am

re: #566 pingjockey

Speaking for just me, I'd rather not see what obambi and his minions could do to this country with 8 years or even 4 with a veto proof Senate and a majority in the House.

Amen.

577 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:54:35am

re: #562 x-wing

I wasn't looking for the joke. I thought Fannie only bought mortgages so the title sounds kindda silly.


hmmmmmm, fanny and barney, the two kinda go together don'tcha think?

578 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:55:01am

re: #571 scottishbuzzsaw

Doing very well...how are you today, HH? Better grab a donut quickly!

Donuts are very bad for you...
/ :)

579 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:55:11am

re: #570 rancher
PC speak for giving loans to illegals and other totally unqualified folks.

580 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:55:26am

re: #568 gregg

I don't see any McCain ads on TV and was wondering why? I split my time between MN and MI, so maybe McCain considers those states lost causes? Although I hear the same from people in FL which is definitely a battleground state.

Do they not have any money? Is it possible McCain is saving his money for a last minute push? Would running ads be considered racist? Any ideas?

Think surge... It costs a fortune to battle the whole time, the poll that matters only happens on one day.

Today's the big day. I can't wait to see what the team has up its sleeve!

581 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:55:33am

re: #559 HoosierHoops

Same 'ol, same 'ol. Also, midterms.

582 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:55:46am

re: #529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Only seen them around and read the literature, but the Bersa Thunder 45ACP gets good marks for light weight, compactness, reliability and economy. Buy an extra factory mag; third-party mags are pricey and hard to find.

583 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:02am

re: #575 doriangrey
I hate to see junior officers pout. Bad for morale.

584 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:09am

re: #570 rancher

Thank you.

585 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:24am

re: #578 HoosierHoops

Donuts are very bad for you...
/ :)

Cool it everyone, the Health Cop is here!

586 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:26am

re: #527 laZardo

The Manifesto's ideal condition for the transition to socialism is through capitalism

How's this for irony? The better capitalism works, the easier it is to transition to socialism. When times are flush, money is plentiful, and everyone's doing pretty well you don't feel bad about 'helping out' the less fortunate. Shoot, it gives you a warm fuzzy, and you can afford it.

Do it slowly enough, it's hardly noticable.

It's like splitting a log. You put the thin edge of the wedge into the crack, then hammer it home.

587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:31am

re: #575 doriangrey

Man.... I cant believe you of all people are helping an ossifer get some grub.... I'd have though your time in the Navy would have cured you of that malady.... ;)

Hey now... 12 years in, 4 as an O... I'm a half-breed.

588 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:39am

re: #573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Cool... that's the top of the range I'm expecting for the M1911 ($600-$800).

I just gotta make sure they take the same ammo...

Yeah, they make a version chambered for 45ACP.

589 llanite  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:43am

re: #529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Guns this morning, eh?

I'll be off to a show in a couple of weeks looking for a M1911 knock off for myself and any kind of smaller 45 ACP handgun for the misses.

Any suggestions on the latter?

Check out Entries 26 and 27 for penetration testing with small guns. It looks like larger calibers and shorter barrels don't mix well together for stopping power. My wife has a Glock 19 that she is quite accurate with - and 16 bullets in a compact will put a crimp in anyone's day - even if they are 9mm.

590 rightwinger3  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:56:50am

Got my absentee ballot yesterday, any suggestions?

591 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:57:14am

re: #515 legalpad

"spread the wealth around"
translation: "You're money or your life."

I saw him say that. I couldn't believe it. He might as well hold a gun to the plumbers head.

My response would be,

Well, I don't have money in the sense you mean, so I suppose you'll have to take my life.

Hope you can get a good price for it, Baby.

One of the fundamental flaws in socialism is the steadfast belief held by socialists that (as Ann Coulter once put it) there's a big room full of free money hidden somewhere, and the only reason it isn't in their hands is that evil conservatives won't tell them where it is and give them the keys. I have found that quoting the TANSTAAFL Rule ( There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch) to "progressives" is futile; they simply reject it as immaterial. They want all lunches (or at least theirs) to be free, so therefore they must be.

Rather like Obama's insistence on "free health care"- I would ask him;

So, that means that if you "give" me "free health care", all the doctors, RNs, PNs, specialists, drug suppliers, and everyone else who will be supplying my needs will be contributing their efforts, resources, and etc. gratis? If not, who pays them?

As with the old axiom about battle plans never surviving first contact with the enemy (Sherman, 1862), progressive "policies" rarely survive first contact with reality.

The question is, will America survive contact with those policies?

cheers

eon

592 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:57:22am

re: #574 HoosierHoops

LOL
how is that secret government project going Dorian?
also..how close are you to the fires?

We're suppose to ship it Friday, I suspect it might be a couple days late.... The fires are quite a few, 35 maybe 40 miles away and last I heard really arent very big. A couple thousand acres or so.

593 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:57:36am

re: #579 pingjockey
Which brings us to where we are today.

594 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:57:40am

re: #569 ratso

hiya hoops

Hiya Ratso..I got the survey call last night on whom I'm voting for.
First time in my life I've been called...Lot's of questions and it took about 20 minutes to finish..A real nice sounding non-partisan lady.

595 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:57:48am

If anyone else here has some confused Christian family or friends who are voting for O, show them this site... Democrats for Lfe. They've written up a bill called the Protection of Women Act which, while I may not agree with some parts, greatly strengthens the social net for pregnant women and new mothers and changes some insurance codes to help also. Barack Obama does not support this group or their legislation. This puts the lie to their main argument that "by helping women and their babies with his wonderful policies, Obamessiah will lower the abortion rate" crap.

596 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:57:50am

re: #587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Ah...That is different. Mustangs is cool!

597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:58:05am

re: #583 pingjockey

I hate to see junior officers pout. Bad for morale.

Nobody can do the "spoiled rich kid" act better than an O2.

(O1's are just too goofy looking to pull it off)

598 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 5:58:59am

re: #581 laZardo

Same 'ol, same 'ol. Also, midterms.

Again? gosh.. you students sure take alot of tests..what's up with that?
/LOL

599 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:00:13am

re: #590 rightwinger3

Got my absentee ballot yesterday, any suggestions?

Could you write me in somewhere? Maybe a state judge or something?
The Hanging Hoopster...mmmm like the sound of that..
/

600 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:00:21am

re: #587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Hey now... 12 years in, 4 as an O... I'm a half-breed.

awww, I see.... Elevated to the level of your greatest incompetence eh? Heh heh heh, that's how my Grandfather the Col. used to explain his making Col.... lol...lol...lol... O.K. I guess you are entitled to an extra donut then...

601 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:00:42am

re: #597 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
Mwahahaha! Yep. O1s are too green. O2s just right. O3s too senior.

602 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:00:51am

re: #529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Guns this morning, eh?

I'll be off to a show in a couple of weeks looking for a M1911 knock off for myself and any kind of smaller 45 ACP handgun for the misses.

Any suggestions on the latter?

Guy gifted me a Llama Minimax .45 last week that is pretty sweet. You can get them used for around $150.

Remember your physics, though. Smaller the gun, worse the recoil. .45 do kick. I'd get her the biggest one she can easily handle.

Or go down a caliber or two.

603 rightwinger3  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:00:53am

re: #599 HoosierHoops

Could you write me in somewhere? Maybe a state judge or something?
The Hanging Hoopster...mmmm like the sound of that..
/

You're in.

604 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:01:07am

re: #594 HoosierHoops
were they in favor of any particular candidate? My sis in Lake county was visited at the door by an nobambi person. She shoooed her away quickly.

605 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:01:23am

re: #594 HoosierHoops

Hiya Ratso..I got the survey call last night on whom I'm voting for.
First time in my life I've been called...Lot's of questions and it took about 20 minutes to finish..A real nice sounding non-partisan lady.

In other words you were counted as a Ozombie eh? lol...lol...lol...

606 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:01:36am

re: #592 doriangrey

We're suppose to ship it Friday, I suspect it might be a couple days late.... The fires are quite a few, 35 maybe 40 miles away and last I heard really arent very big. A couple thousand acres or so.

a couple thousand acres?
Heck that's a wennie roast in Indiana..
/

607 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:02:10am

re: #589 llanite

Check out Entries 26 and 27 for penetration testing with small guns. It looks like larger calibers and shorter barrels don't mix well together for stopping power. My wife has a Glock 19 that she is quite accurate with - and 16 bullets in a compact will put a crimp in anyone's day - even if they are 9mm.

Don't know about that... a big wad of lead at a relatively low muzzle velocity did lots of damage in the Civil War.

If the perp keeps coming after round 1, that's why you double tap.

608 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:02:24am

re: #606 HoosierHoops

a couple thousand acres?
Heck that's a wennie roast in Indiana..
/

Hotdogs are bad for you...;>)

609 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:02:44am

Ohio state Supreme court told their goddamn AG to screen all those early/absentee ballots. Oops, not AG, Sec. of State.

610 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:03:38am

Reliefs here, I'm gone, at least till I get home.

611 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:03:56am

Good Morning Lizards. What's the mood?

612 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:04:10am

re: #606 HoosierHoops

a couple thousand acres?
Heck that's a wennie roast in Indiana..
/

Well after the 2003 Cedars wildfire which burned 900,000 acres and the 2006 Witch creek wildfire which burned 1.4 million acres a couple thousand just doesnt seem that bad...

613 Lively  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:04:20am

I see via Drudge that Hillary will be in the audience at tonight presidential debates. LOL. Go Hillary.

614 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:04:39am

re: #586 razorbacker

Exactly. Marx never outlined some kind of violent uprising, only that the "revolution" would bring such a transition.

Though I might add that it's not charity in itself that's socialist. It's more like when society demands you be charitable lest you be ostracized (like the "aid percentages" plea.)

I would like to introduce an interesting point though - although Marx's ideal communist society would have "all working for the community," the Manifesto also entailed that each would only be given what they are able to work on. Thus the "greedy bourgeoisie" would definitely get thrown out on their bums. Still all for the "common" though, not for the individual.

615 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:05:02am

re: #20 rawmuse

US Communists say their time has come.

/Save us, dig daddy government. I want the government to dole out everything so that I don't have to think anymore.

616 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:05:14am

re: #609 pingjockey


Ohio state Supreme court told their goddamn AG to screen all those early/absentee ballots. Oops, not AG, Sec. of State.

Yup. Too bad, so sad, Do your job!

617 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:05:18am

re: #604 ratso

were they in favor of any particular candidate? My sis in Lake county was visited at the door by an nobambi person. She shoooed her away quickly.

No the lady didn't push any one candidate..Just questions and answers..

618 Joo-LiZ  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:06:25am

re: #260 redc1c4

stop me if this has been posted before: Never Find Out

Haven't seen this before, but its a good site.

619 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:06:40am

Mass Confusion Spreading to the Animal World!

[Link: www.neatorama.com...]

620 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:06:48am

re: #600 doriangrey

awww, I see.... Elevated to the level of your greatest incompetence eh? Heh heh heh, that's how my Grandfather the Col. used to explain his making Col.... lol...lol...lol... O.K. I guess you are entitled to an extra donut then...

Well, not really... I got blown up while the BC was in the process of assigning me a company command. At the time I was a mortar PL.

But I'll take the donut. :-)

621 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:06:55am

re: #608 scottishbuzzsaw

Hotdogs are bad for you...;>)

Scottish..truer words were never spoken..
So is baily's in the coffee..
/ you gonna share that bottle friend?

622 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:06:56am

Well Lizards.... I'm off and running like a herd of democrats turtles..... If work waits for no man, then why is their always a stack of it waiting for me when I get there in the morning?

623 Lively  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:07:15am

re: #595 Spenser (with an S)

If anyone else here has some confused Christian family or friends who are voting for O, show them this site... Democrats for Lfe. They've written up a bill called the Protection of Women Act which, while I may not agree with some parts, greatly strengthens the social net for pregnant women and new mothers and changes some insurance codes to help also. Barack Obama does not support this group or their legislation. This puts the lie to their main argument that "by helping women and their babies with his wonderful policies, Obamessiah will lower the abortion rate" crap.

A man showed up at church last week....he's a regular attender. Every week, he looks good in one of his nice suits. Last week he showed up in an Obama t-shirt....with Obama's face on it. I thought I was gonna croak. (We go to a conservative church.)

624 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:07:45am

re: #622 doriangrey

Because you're a lizard, not merely a man. (; Cheers.

625 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:08:47am

re: #622 doriangrey
Gnomes. Work gnomes, they bring extra shit in at night.

626 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:09:32am

where are the fires at dorian? i have to travel to SF sunday for a monday meeting in dublin, anywhere near?

627 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:09:33am

re: #625 pingjockey

Gnomes. Work gnomes, they bring extra shit in at night.

And underpants... and profit!

628 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:09:33am

For those who haven't seen Obamas unbelievable exchange with said plumber, you can find it here.

The plumber responds, here.

Barack wants to play Robin Hood.... rob from the rich, give to the poor.
Joe Biden says that paying taxes is "patriotic".

Pardon me while I puke.

629 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:10:06am

It’s a good idea for diplomats to keep their word in small matters. It makes the later complete betrayals more of a surprise.

Charlie Chaplin & Friends put it so succinctly in 1940...

630 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:10:10am

re: #606 HoosierHoops

a couple thousand acres?
Heck that's a wennie roast in Indiana..
/


and what the heck are ya shipping huh?

631 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:10:42am

re: #608 scottishbuzzsaw

Hotdogs are bad for you...;>)


yeah cuz, so are donuts ;)

632 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:10:59am

re: #627 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)
I wondered if any lizards would get that reference!
Sounds like obambis tax plan....1) Tax 2)? 3)Profit!

633 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:11:32am

re: #626 ratso

where are the fires at dorian? i have to travel to SF sunday for a monday meeting in dublin, anywhere near?

I believe the only fire you will be close too is the Angel Island fire..
It should still be smoldering when you cross the bay bridge to Dublin.

634 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:11:33am

re: #632 pingjockey

I wondered if any lizards would get that reference!
Sounds like obambis tax plan....1) Tax 2)? 3)Profit!

You did... that makes two of us.

635 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:11:37am

Good morning all, and congratulations to all Canadian lizards.

O Canada!

636 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:12:00am

re: #615 FrogMarch

/Save us, dig daddy government. I want the government to dole out everything so that I don't have to think anymore.

Please send that link to Charles!

637 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:12:04am

re: #70 Sharmuta

ACORN goes under the bus:

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.


It seems Obama can talk his way out of endless corrupt alliances.

638 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:12:19am

re: #614 laZardo

If they could just rewire human nature, that there socialism thing might work just fine.

But I know me, if I get paid the same regardless of how much I work, I ain't exactly busting my hump, if you get my drift.

Heck, even Israel has pretty much given up on socialism. Aren't near as many kibbutz as in the beginning. Wonder if that could have anything to do with the bad press the Jews been getting? MSM do love their socialists. When I was a kid, everyone supported Israel, even the Democrats.

639 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:12:29am

re: #617 HoosierHoops

No the lady didn't push any one candidate..Just questions and answers..


ya know the directions are for that kind of phone call you say your voting for nobambi don'tcha?

640 Dasher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:13:03am

re: #631 ratso

yeah cuz, so are donuts ;)

Store name : Hotdog King, nearby Store : Donut Queen

641 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:13:16am

re: #623 Lively

Democrats For Life are outside the Dems' "big tent", just like Bob Casey was.

642 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:14:00am

Mich. AG just indicted ACORN operative for forgery!

643 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:14:22am

re: #623 Lively


A man showed up at church last week....he's a regular attender. Every week, he looks good in one of his nice suits. Last week he showed up in an Obama t-shirt....with Obama's face on it. I thought I was gonna croak. (We go to a conservative church.)

Yep, same here (well, not the t-shirt part). Check out Matthew 15:8 for my answer, FWIW.

644 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:14:24am

re: #573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Cool... that's the top of the range I'm expecting for the M1911 ($600-$800).

I just gotta make sure they take the same ammo...

You might also want to check this one out.

Taurus 24/7 Pro 45 Compact

(Note; Linky only goes to main page due to their screwed-up website- you'll find it under Pistols)

It MSRPs for $452, about half the USP Compact.

cheers

eon

645 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:14:28am

re: #637 FrogMarch

It seems Obama can talk his way out of endless corrupt alliances.

With the MSM's help.

646 Llanite  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:15:51am

re: #607 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Fair enough - but if this if for the wife, better something she'll carry and practice with than something that sits at home in the safe. For us it was a trade-off - I'm just glad she carries. Until recently she was an addiction counselor for adolescents.

647 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:15:54am

re: #636 Irish Rose

Please send that link to Charles!

Absolutely.

648 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:15:57am

Obambi talking head says McCain has ties to ACORN? How?

649 Irish Rose  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:16:08am

re: #637 FrogMarch

It seems Obama can talk his way out of endless corrupt alliances.

... because equally corrupt alliances in the MSM are watching his back, covering his ass, and sucking his *.

Sorry, lizards.
Maybe I need another cup of coffee.
.

650 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:16:10am

Good Morning folks.

The DOW futures are down over 200 and the S&P 500 futures are down about 25 points before the open.

U.S. stock futures sharply lower after data wave

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock futures pointed to another sharp opening fall on Wednesday after economic data proved generally dismal, erasing optimism on better-than-forecast results from the Coca-Cola Co., Intel Corp. and J.P. Morgan Chase.
"Retail sales were worse than expected, core PPI was hotter than forecast, and the Empire State Index outcome was fairly ugly," said analysts at Action Economics.

Don't be surprised if we drop back to a DOW of about 8500 for a while.

There is so much bad economic news out there it will be hard not to.

651 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:16:10am

re: #635 Ward Cleaver

Good morning all, and congratulations to all Canadian lizards.

O Canada!

Haven't seen any news from north o'the border this morning.

I gather that the Laborites didn't manage to seize power, and Steven Harper is still PM?

cheers

eon

652 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:17:09am

re: #650 3 wood
hiya 3

653 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:17:26am

re: #635 Ward Cleaver

Thank you, thank you. I did my part, although the Conservative candidate in my riding lost to a Liberal. Still, Harper has a stroonger gov't today than he did yesterday. Technically it's still a minority, but all 3 opposition parties will have to unite to block the Conservatives. Not much chance of that happening. The Liberals are already sharpening knives to do in their hapless leader, Stephane Dion.

654 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:17:28am

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (52 degrees going up to 84 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

655 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:17:28am

The Nikkei actually rallied last night to finish up 99 points, that's some good news.

656 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:17:47am

re: #652 ratso

Hi ratso.

657 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:18:04am

re: #621 HoosierHoops

Scottish..truer words were never spoken..
So is baily's in the coffee..
/ you gonna share that bottle friend?

Hadn't planned to, Friend...;>)

658 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:18:07am

re: #651 eon

Haven't seen any news from north o'the border this morning.

I gather that the Laborites didn't manage to seize power, and Steven Harper is still PM?

cheers

eon


yeah but Dion is still prowling

659 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:18:17am

re: #646 Llanite

Fair enough - but if this if for the wife, better something she'll carry and practice with than something that sits at home in the safe. For us it was a trade-off - I'm just glad she carries. Until recently she was an addiction counselor for adolescents.

She won't be able to carry... I live in the People's Republic of Illinois.

When she gets to use it in anger, she'll be standing in our house holding off the Obama Stormtrooper Zombies trying to take them away.

That and target practice.

660 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:18:21am

Going John Galt...

I think many will go John Galt without much choice in the matter. Obama will tax the productive which in turn will kill off incentive, which will kill off jobs, which will kill off everything. All in the name of "fairness."


Perhaps the partisan politics we are dealing with now is really just a struggle between those of us who believe in productivity, personal responsibility, and keeping government interference to a minimum, and those who believe in the socialistic policies of taking from others, using the government as a watchdog, and rewarding those who overspend, underwork, or are just plain unproductive.
661 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:18:41am

re: #654 realwest
yiya RW

662 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:19:19am

re: #654 realwest

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (52 degrees going up to 84 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Good morning, real! Doing well...it's going to be a rainy day here in the St. Louis area...how are you?

663 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:19:28am

re: #649 Irish Rose

... because equally corrupt alliances in the MSM are watching his back, covering his ass, and sucking his *.

Sorry, lizards.
Maybe I need another cup of coffee.
.

No need for apologies. What you say is accurate.

664 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:19:35am

re: #648 pingjockey

Obambi talking head says McCain has ties to ACORN? How?

Because of that stupid speech he gave at a pro-amesty thing that was co-sponsored by ACORN... Cannot compare it to lawyering for them and the exchange of $$...

That said, Obama deflects, this goes away, it's an early night on election night...

665 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:19:51am

re: #654 realwest

Good Morning all y'all - from a cool (52 degrees going up to 84 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

Mornin real. It's cloudy in Chicago, but pleasant temperature wise.

666 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:20:08am

Producer prices fall 0.4% in September, energy prices down

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. producer prices fell 0.4% in September - the second consecutive month of declines -- as energy prices dropped and food prices rose, the Labor Department reported Wednesday. Excluding food and energy, core producer prices rose 0.4% last month. Analysts polled by MarketWatch were looking for a decrease of 0.6% in overall PPI, and a 0.2% increase in the core rate. Producer prices are up 8.7% over the past 12 months. Prices for crude core goods fell a record 9.4% in September, compared with the previous record drop of 7.7% in 1974. In August, overall producer prices fell 0.9%, while the core gained 0.2%

667 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:20:17am

re: #638 razorbacker

Over here the evangelists held a televised mass for Israel's 60th Anniversary. "God Bless Israel" and everything.

/maybe it has to do with either us being a mostly Christian state, and/or a former U.S. satellite state...

668 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:20:49am

re: #654 realwest

Stocking up for life under Big Brother.

/helps to be prepared.

//otherwise, same 'ol same 'ol.

669 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:20:54am

re: #654 realwest

Good morning, my friend. Glad to see you. I'm pleased as punch myself with the good news of the election results. Harper is back with a stronger mandate.

670 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:20:56am

re: #665 midwestgak

Mornin real. It's cloudy in Chicago, but pleasant temperature wise.

Rain is headed your way.

671 ayatollah ghilmeini  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:21:00am

The Mask Drops at Evian Conferences

For people who claim to be so cultured, the French foreign policy people hosting the conference have a poor sense of history. For it was exactly 70 years ago there was another Evian Conference, we better do better this time around.

In 1938, Hitler invited the world to take the Jews of Europe or he would be decide their fate. At Evian, the world punted. You know the rest: of Europe's Jews alive in 1938, 75% were dead when the dust settled seven years later. The remnant became the State of Israel.

So the comments by Jesse Jackson Obama's true intentions are alarming. Jackson's ignorance of the historic significance of his remarks to previous events at Evian are less the problem than the implications of what happens if he was telling the truth. He also garnished them with enough dripping antisemitism that we must assume he was speaking the truth.

Jackson's comments were clear: under an Obama administration, the Jews of Israel are to be thrown to the wolves by Obama, just as we were 70 years ago. This is betrayal writ large. We cannot be the least surprised as to these being Obama's intentions, rather one can only be shocked that Jackson had the gall (honesty?) to utter the truth when Obama was so close to the Prize. All the evidence of Obama's planned treachery has been before our eyes, his desire to "engage Iran" his coterie of anti-Israel foreign policy advisers, his flip-flop on Jerusalem, Wright's antisemitism, his relationship with Muslim extremists Farakhan and Odinga and, most of all, his relationship with Said, Khalidi and Ayers. Over the years, we have watched the antisemitic bile pour form the DU and KOS, far left antisemitism is an established fact; and they hate Israel. Jesse Jackson did us a favor and told us that Obama has the virus that so many of his Leftist brothers and sisters have. Let's hope Jesse is Obama's October Surprise.

Jews of America, we have been warned. In 1938, we had neither the power nor the resources to resist the enemy; we got lucky, the mask dropped before the election. We can believe Jackson or Obama's denials. Since Jesse is not running for anything, you know who to believe. And let's not forget: Leftist always lie. They wipe their bottoms with the truth because they believe the "power" of their higher political truth absolves them from honesty. Witness Acorn in action.

In 1939, the Left pirouetted in perfect timing and harmony with Hitler to bring world war and the deaths of millions; they only got angry at Hitler when they got knifed themselves. Obama, like the Diplomats of Evian, only intends to remove the Jew's defenses, he either cynically knows today's Hitler, Iran, will do the dirty work or he does not care- in situations like this indifference is fatal to those not preserved- he will wash his hands of Jewish blood just as Clinton "could have done more" about Rwanda.

Anyone who cares about the Jewish people and Israel, anyone who cares about the promise "never again" must rally around John McCain with everything they have. The lives of six million of our co-religionists are at stake and probably the continued existence of the Jewish people as well. We cannot bear another Shoah. McCain is the only door that is open and safe. Obama must be presumed to be a mortal threat to Israel.

We have time. Spread these words to everyone you know: Obama intends to betray Israel. He has played us falsely and those who know Obama best are unafraid to say so. Every Jewish vote for McCain is precious. It can make the difference. Think how you will feel if Obama is elected and Jackson is right. In 1945, the Jewish word sat in mourning with ashes in our mouth, shocked and devastated by the Shoah, sick that we had done so little and wondering why we had not done more. We cannot be true to the memory of the six million if we stand by and do nothing in the face of the reality of Evian. The ghosts from the last Evian Conference are screaming: vote McCain.

672 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:21:06am

re: #661 ratso
Hey ratso, yiya back atcha! LOL! How are ya today?

673 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:21:25am

re: #654 realwest
Mornin' RW. Chilly here, low 40, high 63. Did spend the day yesterday at the local ski hill taking care of their fire supression systems. Absolutely beautiful fall day here in the Nothwest.

674 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:21:50am

re: #670 3 wood

Rain is headed your way.

Are you already getting wet?

675 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:21:53am

re: #654 realwest

Good morning real.

Hope you have been resting well the last few days.

676 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:21:57am

what western state did Gault have his town? Was it CO, WY somewhere in that area. Would it be the same state that talks of leaving the US if gunrights are removed? re: #660 FrogMarch

Going John Galt...

I think many will go John Galt without much choice in the matter. Obama will tax the productive which in turn will kill off incentive, which will kill off jobs, which will kill off everything. All in the name of "fairness."

677 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:22:11am

re: #637 FrogMarch

Obama said. "I think the idea of injecting capital directly into banks is a good one, it gives taxpayers a better chance of getting their money out

That sorry son of a bitch!

678 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:22:30am

re: #674 midwestgak

Are you already getting wet?

Yes, since about 5 am

679 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:22:31am

re: #662 scottishbuzzsaw
Good morning to you {scottishbuzzsaw} well it's sunny and going to 84 here and I'm doing ok I guess!
Sorry you've got rain - unless of course you needed rain in St. Louis!

680 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:22:55am

John better say some basic stuff tonight:
Like....
KEEP GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE TO A MINIMUM.

NO UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE.

681 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:23:17am

re: #664 tfc3rid

Because of that stupid speech he gave at a pro-amesty thing that was co-sponsored by ACORN... Cannot compare it to lawyering for them and the exchange of $$...

That said, Obama deflects, this goes away, it's an early night on election night...


amnesty will always be a problem with Mac

682 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:23:41am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Today's the last debate between Obama and McCain, the economy continues to worry, so with that in mind, the top story of the day: Madonna's getting a divorce from Guy Ritchie. I guess that means she'll lose the phony British accent...

683 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:23:52am

re: #665 midwestgak
Ah well as long as it's not cold - uh, in Chicago, iirc, anything over 40 is "not cold" right?!

684 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:23:52am

re: #671 ayatollah ghilmeini

Consider yourself updinged. Well said.

cheers

eon

685 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:24:09am

Gotta go... keep the powder dry... we might be in for a big blow.

686 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:24:22am

re: #683 realwest

Ah well as long as it's not cold - uh, in Chicago, iirc, anything over 40 is "not cold" right?!

HAHAHA - that's about right :)

687 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:24:44am

re: #666 3 wood Good morning my friend - hope you're doing well today.
When y'all get a chance, please check your e-mail!

688 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:24:53am

re: #676 ratso

Colorado.

689 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:25:03am

Gotta go Lizards - have a good one!

690 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:25:20am

re: #671 ayatollah ghilmeini
Bravo. However, there are a whole lot of liberal Jews who will still vote for obambi. I cannot figure it out.

691 right_on_target  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:25:30am

Democrat run city of Chicago.
Can you imagine this on a national scale?

692 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:25:48am

re: #529 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Any suggestions on the latter?

If you don't mind my suggesting, let the misses pick-out the weapon that is comfortable to her and especially in her hand.

693 Llanite  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:25:56am

re: #573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ahh - didn't see the requirement for same ammo. The better half liked the Sig P220 - which is at the top end of your price range, but had a pull weight and action that let her stay on target. I would probably recommend going to a range and letting her 'shop' with some rentals for an afternoon.

They do still allow ranges in Illinois don't they? (Sorry, couldn't resist...) Good luck with the purchase.

694 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:26:13am

re: #668 laZardo
Good afternoon to you laZardo! Uh, what is it your stocking up on for life under Big Brother?! I mean especially since McCain IS going to win the election!

695 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:26:30am

re: #690 pingjockey

Bravo. However, there are a whole lot of liberal Jews who will still vote for obambi. I cannot figure it out.

My jewish friend blames it on a bad gene.

696 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:26:32am

re: #689 midwestgak

Gotta go Lizards - have a good one!

You too!

697 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:27:07am

Good morning, {all y'all} and a happy hump day to you and yours.

698 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:27:13am

re: #672 realwest

Hey real, you shot a 74 yesterday.

Since it's near the end of the season and I don't have to protect the shoulder much longer this year, I went back to the full swing for you.

You were crushing it off the tee 260 to 300 yards per tee shot depending on the wind. You put a 230 yard 5 wood shot on the green on a long par 5 uphill and canned the birdie putt. Good show. The course was beautiful with the leaves turning orange and yellow. Over all a great day.

699 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:27:31am

re: #695 unreconstructed rebel
Tell them to buy Lee jeans, not Levis!

700 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:27:43am

Well, I hear my wife waking up, so I'm going to get her a cup of coffee and see if she wants breakfast yet.

I'll see y'all later today.

701 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:28:11am

When it mattered, Obama copped out (again)

Barack Obama has claimed that he foresaw the subprime mortgage collapse and took steps to warn the Treasury — by writing a letter. That claim has come in two presidential debates. Peter Wallison reminds Wall Street Journal readers of the obvious in pointing out that Obama serves as a Senator and had the power to draft legislation, not letters, to prevent the collapse. Instead, Obama voted present

702 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:28:20am

re: #669 Kenneth
Morning Kenneth my friend - yes, I heard the results today on Fox and Friends - congratulations!
BTW, today was only the third or fourth time my Mom has actually yelled at the TV (that's usually my job! LOL!) about ACORN!
I hope you're doing well today!

703 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:28:23am

re: #697 redstateredneck

Good morning, {all y'all} and a happy hump day to you and yours.


Happy hump day back at you...how are you today, Red?

704 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:29:02am

re: #676 ratso

what western state did Gault have his town? Was it CO, WY somewhere in that area. Would it be the same state that talks of leaving the US if gunrights are removed?

Galt's Gulch was in northwestern Colorado, in an area with an average ASL ground level of 8,000 feet. This would put it in the Rocky Mountains north of Steamboat Springs, near the Wyoming state line. This is also consistent with Dagny Taggart's flightpath as she pursued Galt's plane before she crashed her own ship.

/Flight training, a long time ago.

cheers

eon

705 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:29:07am

be better if she lost her voice, forever. God, I hate that skank! re: #682 lawhawk

706 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:29:23am

re: #660 FrogMarch

Going John Galt...

I think many will go John Galt without much choice in the matter. Obama will tax the productive which in turn will kill off incentive, which will kill off jobs, which will kill off everything. All in the name of "fairness."

more...

Obama talks about taking from those who are productive and redistributing to those who are not — or who are not as successful. If success and productivity is to be punished, why bother? Perhaps it is time for those of us who make the money and pay the taxes to take it easy, live on less, and let the looters of the world find their own way.

perhaps...

707 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:29:34am

re: #701 Kenneth

Instead, Obama voted present

With any luck at all, that's all he may do if president.

708 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:30:03am

If McCain or his advisers were smart (and there are times when I wonder about it), they'd hammer away at Obama on his admission that his tax and spend economic policy is nothing more than redistribution of wealth - taking from those who are in a position to grow the economy - small businesses - to help those who pay no taxes at all. You can tax the rich all you want, but it wouldn't cover all the pet programs that Obama wants, all the refundable tax credits, and payoffs he intends.

Obama seeks nothing less than a massive redistribution of wealth, and if you're in the middle class - particularly the middle and upper middle class, you're going to get hosed royally.

709 bosforus  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:30:06am

Fish or Pole? I missed that thread. Was that the one where we discuss what McCain plans on hitting Obama with tonight? Does McCain even have a pole?

710 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:30:18am

re: #703 scottishbuzzsaw

Happy hump day back at you...how are you today, Red?

I'm good, thanks. Did I see upthread that you're in the St. Louis area? I was raised in northeast MO. We might be cousins!

711 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:30:38am

re: #687 realwest

Got it and responded.

712 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:30:54am

re: #694 realwest

I respect your beliefs, as I expect you to respect my Murphyism. (;

713 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:31:12am

re: #688 FrogMarch
is that the state with the gunrights witten into the charter with the federal government prior to statehood? Maby we'll start a real Gault town and remove ourselves from the united socialist states of amerika.

714 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:32:25am

Seems like the Fwench are getting pissed that the seeds of the new revolution are taking hold....
French to Stop Soccer Matches if Their Anthem Gets Jeered

715 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:32:46am

re: #706 FrogMarch

perhaps...

I like the Lincoln quote:

“It is the eternal struggle between two principles, right and wrong, throughout the world. It is the same spirit that says ‘you toil and work and earn bread, and I’ll eat it.’ No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation, and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.” [Lincoln-Douglas debates, 15 October 1858]

716 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:33:41am

re: #704 eon

Galt's Gulch was in northwestern Colorado, in an area with an average ASL ground level of 8,000 feet. This would put it in the Rocky Mountains north of Steamboat Springs, near the Wyoming state line. This is also consistent with Dagny Taggart's flightpath as she pursued Galt's plane before she crashed her own ship.

/Flight training, a long time ago.

cheers

eon


ahhh yes, my wife reminds me of Dagney a real overachiever, bless her heart ;)

717 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:34:35am

re: #710 redstateredneck

I'm good, thanks. Did I see upthread that you're in the St. Louis area? I was raised in northeast MO. We might be cousins!

My husband and I are NH natives currently transplanted to MO...his work has taken us all over the place for the past 11 years...this is the 3rd time we've returned to St. Louis...

718 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:35:01am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

From the my favourite Ask the Imam site - haven't been there for a while and I was hoping to find someone asking the Imam's guidance in how to vote, but no luck just very important stuff like this

However, in case you wish to supplement your with crows and parrots...........

ji mufti sahib kya kawwa khana aut tota(perrot) khana halaal hai. paka ker khana.

Please tell me if it is permissible to eat crows and parrots?

Answer
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

Answer: Crows are of three types viz

1. Those which eat only seeds.

2. Those which eat only meat.

3. Those which eat meat and seed.

The first and third type is permissible to consume and the second is not permissible.

It is permissible to consume parrots.

Hindiyyah 5/289 Rasheediyyah

Ahsanul Fatawa 7/439 H.M. Saeed

Fatawa Mahmoodiyyah 18/218-228 Jamia Farooqiyyah

Fatawa Mahmoodiyyah 18/233 Jamia Farooqiyyah

And Allah knows best

Wassalam

Ml. Ishaq E. Moosa,
Student Darul Iftaa

Checked and Approved by:

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

719 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:35:25am

re: #614 laZardo

Charity BEGINS at home....

Among other meanings, charity is a PERSONAL matter, an individual choice, NOT a social requirement or a state-mandated necessity!

So many parts of (Obama's/McCain's) government MIGHT BE OKAY if they were taken out of government and implemented by sane individuals...

...but FORCING PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER is an oxymoronic of Obamanastic proportions!

720 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:35:34am

re: #671 ayatollah ghilmeini Good morning my friend, just another in a looong series of excellent comments!
But

Jackson's ignorance of the historic significance of his remarks to previous events at Evian are less the problem than the implications of what happens if he was telling the truth. He also garnished them with enough dripping antisemitism that we must assume he was speaking the truth.


Is, I'm afraid not an ignorant statement. Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson meant every word and a bunch of others even he couldn't say out loud. I wish American Jews would wake the hell up before its too late, but I fear that American Jews vote overwhelmingly Democratic, just as a sort of reflexive action; no thinking required. That or they are operating under the delusion that 1) Israel will be ok without US backing in the World or 2) Israel, even worse, will get what ever it deserves.
I know #2 is somewhat harsh, but I honestly believe that American Jewry has somehow managed to distance itself from Israel, while maintaining the fiction that they are, in fact, Jews.
I posted this yesterday and it's even more apt given your comment: I am a STRONG supporter of Israel and a Zionist and proud of it.
Now if we could only get American Jewish voters to feel the same way..................

721 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:35:36am

re: #710 redstateredneck

I'm good, thanks. Did I see upthread that you're in the St. Louis area? I was raised in northeast MO. We might be cousins!


haha, everyone from that area are cuzins ain't they?

722 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:35:59am

DOW down about 145 on bad retail sales data and mortgage rates are up slightly.

723 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:36:42am

re: #718 aussiemagpie

{aussie}
Good to "see" ya', girl!

724 bosforus  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:37:03am

This is not the answer to your money woes.
3 facing charges in South Ogden (Utah) attack / Men allegedly kidnap, assault investor after money lost

SOUTH OGDEN --Three men from California have been charged with aggravated kidnapping after threatening a financial adviser over a lost investment.

The men were caught because the victim called 911 before dropping his cell phone, which recorded the entire altercation, according to a probable cause affidavit from South Ogden police.
...
Amin said he was prepared to spend his life in jail and would kill or paralyze Barber, then went after Barber with a screwdriver that he took from a toolbox in the office.

One of the other men stated "his father had died over this, and he had no reason to live, and that someone was going to die," according to the affidavit.

725 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:37:27am

re: #718 aussiemagpie

Well that's very good to know...I think! ;>) Good morning, Aussie!

726 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:37:33am

re: #673 pingjockey
Hi Ping! Well I can believe that - was out that way once during leaf changing season and it was indeed spectacular! Down here we sorta dipped our toes into autumn, said "Brrrrrr" and ran back into summer - as I said, going to 84 today!

727 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:37:37am

re: #721 ratso

haha, everyone from that area are cuzins ain't they?

Lord, yes. My mother was the youngest of 8. I've got a gazillion cousins!

728 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:37:50am

Good morning again Lizards.

729 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:38:14am

Barone's on Fox.

730 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:38:17am

Hope and Despair by VDH


If Obama Wins…

We will all support to the best of our abilities the President of the US; he will need it in these challenging times when so many abroad will try to take advantage of America’s ongoing perceived weakness. But nevertheless, there will be irony aplenty, and not all of it necessarily bad.

Consider. The Europeans really will have their multilateralist: no, problem, Eastern Europe, we will get the UN on Putin right away. Don’t worry France, we are right behind you in Kandahar. Angie, no problem, Iranian nukes can’t quite reach Frankfurt. OK, UK, ready or not, here come more of your Guantanamo detainees. Don’t worry, Israel, trust me—Hamas really is sober and judicious. How strange to see a Euro-summit in which the US president is to the left of the Europeans, who are fleeing the positions we are now assuming.

As one scared Frenchman told me this summer, “Hey, what’s up? There’s only room for one Obama in the West, and we already claimed that role!”

Go yee and read it all, for it is good.

731 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:40:08am

re: #698 3 wood Aw shucks, 'twerent nothing (when you play for me, anyway!) I always mash 'em off the tee, my problem is I'm never quite sure what fairway my driver will take me to, but it's pleasant to walk amongst all of the other fairways as well!
Glad the shoulder didn't bother you any.

732 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:40:36am

re: #726 realwest
Enjoy your warmth!

733 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:40:43am

re: #718 aussiemagpie

LOL! Glad to have that issue cleared up. Gonna have me some roast parrot for dinner tonight!

734 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:41:13am

I suppose we are going the way of Nineveh and Tyre. Just sorry to see it so soon.

735 broomer  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:41:40am

I'm tempted to make my first foray into intrade.com betting on McCain winning. It's asking price is in the 20's. Anyone have an update? Last discussion here was on Oct 9.

736 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:42:22am

re: #730 Kenneth

Hope and Despair by VDH


Go yee and read it all, for it is good.

Is it too much to hope that McCain will read it?

737 calvin coolidge  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:42:42am

ABC, CBS, and NBC have announced that Obama has won the upcoming debate tonight.

/sarc

738 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:42:47am

Obama Is Getting Off Easy
McCain has done nothing to fuel racism.

preaching to the choir - but it's good.

739 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:43:21am

re: #706 FrogMarch

When I was about to graduate high-school (1964) VietNam was high on a LOT of peoples' radar, and my career Air Force father had discussions with his 6 independent dependents, night after night, Frog, and one theme that he asserted frequently was:

"If we LET THE COMMUNISTS HAVE THE COUNTRIES they're trying to take, then in a few years they'll have FAILED BIGTIME (as the consistently have to-date) and we can go in and re-absorb the survivors!"

Which was our sticking point, as we kids pointed out that yes, the state would fail, but in the doing MILLIONS would perish in cleansings, purges and other socialist enemy-enemas!

740 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:44:04am

PR dweeb: Hey Boss, lets advertise the campaign in video games
OMessiah: Why?
PR dweeb: Because we are registering 7 year olds to vote and have a sea of pimply faced, basement dwelling kossacks that will love it.
OMessiah: Can we rig the game so it automatically casts votes for me?
PR dweeb: Not yet, but ACORN is working on having electronic votes counted so as not to disenfranchise our fake voters.
OMessiah: Good! Will it be done by the 4th?
PR dweeb: Not sure Boss, the racists are already trying to prevent our boys from voting 72 times.
OMessiah: The audacity!

741 JSK1121[deleted]  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:44:22am
742 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:44:54am

re: #730 Kenneth

Hope and Despair by VDH


Go yee and read it all, for it is good.

More:

Half of what I learned did not come from books or graduate school or teaching or writing, but from some rather rough characters who taught me how to prune, hammer, wire, and fix things—as well as their world view that came along with those tasks. Thank God, we have that experience represented in Sarah Palin. Can’t her critics grasp that? It ain’t easy to step up to the city-council, mayorship, or governor’s office while raising kids, on a short budget, without family money or connections, and out in Alaska? Did not the career of Truman teach us anything? We have plenty of highly educated politicos, so there is no worry we are a nation of populist yokels; what is lacking in public life are just a few people who aren’t lawyers, professors, consultants, and bureaucrats.

743 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:45:05am

re: #708 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk - from your lips to McCain's ears!
I really hope that he gives an old fashioned beat down on Obama tonight (and drops his sappy "My Friends" for "My fellow Americans"; at least we'll know who he is excluding). And survery after survery, all across the income, gender, racial and ethnic borders has shown repeatedly, that Americans do not want that redistribution of wealth because they want and believe that their children should have a better life than they do and you can't get there from here with a redistribution of wealth scheme!

744 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:45:09am

re: #741 JSK1121
Isn't that a really bad word?

745 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:45:24am

re: #739 Karridine

... the state would fail, but in the doing MILLIONS would perish in cleansings, purges and other socialist enemy-enemas!

That is a very chilling thought. Last century, they racked up 100,000,000.

746 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:46:02am

re: #739 Karridine

Actually, some here in the Philippines often bemoan the economic growth going on in our neighbor across the South China Sea. And it was the Vietnamese that drove out the Khmers, ironically enough.

747 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:46:05am

re: #710 redstateredneck
Hey {Red}! Good morning to you; I'm doing ok today and hope you're doing at least as well!

748 JSK1121[deleted]  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:46:15am
749 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:46:51am

re: #748 JSK1121
Got it. Ouch!

750 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:47:06am

re: #730 Kenneth

... Angie, no problem, Iranian nukes can’t quite reach Frankfurt. OK, UK, ready or not, here come more of your Guantanamo detainees. Don’t worry, Israel, trust me—Hamas really is sober and judicious. How strange to see a Euro-summit in which the US president is to the left of the Europeans, who are fleeing the positions we are now assuming.

what is left to say?

751 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:47:33am

re: #736 redstateredneck

I sure hope so. Otherwise he's shuffling into the retirement home.

752 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:47:53am

re: #737 calvin coolidge

ABC, CBS, and NBC have announced that Obama has won the upcoming debate tonight.

/sarc

Heck, they have already given him the election...telling us it is over. spit
I would love to see all the MSM eat crow on 11/5...how do you suppose they will spin it to try and save face when they are wrong?

753 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:48:34am

Well, I have to run, Lizards.

Have a great day.

And always remember, they may have us surrounded, but in any battle of wits, they're unarmed.

cheers

eon

754 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:48:41am

re: #739 Karridine

When I was about to graduate high-school (1964) VietNam was high on a LOT of peoples' radar, and my career Air Force father had discussions with his 6 independent dependents, night after night, Frog, and one theme that he asserted frequently was:

Which was our sticking point, as we kids pointed out that yes, the state would fail, but in the doing MILLIONS would perish in cleansings, purges and other socialist enemy-enemas!

Communist are sure into purging. I think that if the left in this county could get away with it - every conservative would be taken out and shot.

755 ratso  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #753 eon
cya

756 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:49:10am

re: #741 JSK1121

Didn't big mafia groups always include Jews for some reason? Not that anyone who wasn't Italian would make the rank of caporegime...

/or at least the cliche went...

757 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:49:49am

re: #718 aussiemagpie
G'day Lil Roo! My word you do live in a truly unsual nation! - beatuiful and friendly but, ah, unusual! LOL!
How are you this evening?

758 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:49:52am

re: #754 FrogMarch

That would be a mercy killing compared to what they'd do to people who even think (out loud) of straying out of the party conga line...

759 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:50:07am

re: #752 gonecamping

Heck, they have already given him the election...telling us it is over. spit
I would love to see all the MSM eat crow on 11/5...how do you suppose they will spin it to try and save face when they are wrong?

Just as they spent eight years feeding BDS, they will spend however long feeding racial tensions.

760 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:50:07am

re: #750 FrogMarch

It sure will be novel living in Canada with a government to the right of the US!

761 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:50:19am

re: #742 scottishbuzzsaw

BuzzSaw, VDH is a THINKER.

Obama tingles the thighs of FEELERS, who FEEL Obama's grateness!

/pimf, but NOT this time

762 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:51:13am

re: #723 redstateredneck

{aussie}
Good to "see" ya', girl!

Hi {redstateredneck} and good to see you too! Are you still doing the NASCAR thing? Just that I'm following the progress of Aussie Marcos Ambrose - I'd love to see him do really well

763 Oldasdirt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:51:27am

Morning lizards,Hope McCain wins big tonight.
If not we may never be able to find a plumber when we need one.

764 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:52:10am

re: #760 Kenneth

It sure will be novel living in Canada with a government to the right of the US!

Which reminds me, I need to get my passport updated.

765 J.S.  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:52:14am

re: #669 Kenneth

Is it really the case that Rahim Jaffer lost his seat? and to the NDP? (I find that amusing...I saw the NDP candidate on a local channel -- she was saying how Jaffer was never around, and he didn't really represent the riding; was perpetually MIA, etc.)

766 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:01am

re: #725 scottishbuzzsaw

Well that's very good to know...I think! ;>) Good morning, Aussie!

Hi, I just thought I'd add something to the LGF menu tonight - a bit of crow with the donuts :-)

767 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:17am

re: #761 Karridine

BuzzSaw, VDH is a THINKER.

Obama tingles the thighs of FEELERS, who FEEL Obama's grateness!

/pimf, but NOT this time

Indeed.

('Scotti' or 'Scottish,' if you please, so as not to step on the Great One's tootsies!)

768 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:34am

re: #728 jorline
Good morning jorline my friend! How are you feeling this morning? I'm doing pretty much ok and hope you are too!

769 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:10am

I can't help but wonder by what schemes The One is going to insulate his rich buddies during the Great Redistribution?

770 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:11am

Goodmorning one and all!
A drive by before I hit the trail!
I've got a Bangin head cold and 125 ft of chian link to build !
Life truly is't fair!
Should get up into the high 60's today ,so all is not lost!
Ya'll remember,if we lose this (pray not),stock up on ammo
or the components.
Go out and butthat firearm you've been yernin for!
Congress and a couple changes on the bench will cost us dearly!
Loader

771 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:34am

re: #715 scottishbuzzsaw

I like the Lincoln quote:

“It is the eternal struggle between two principles, right and wrong, throughout the world. It is the same spirit that says ‘you toil and work and earn bread, and I’ll eat it.’ No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation, and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.” [Lincoln-Douglas debates, 15 October 1858]

Lincoln was the man.

772 Miss Trixie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:11am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

I must say I feel a whole lot better today in how the election has turned out after a very restless night of no sleep and monster worries. I was terrified of a lunatic left wing coalition ready to rip Canada out by its roots had Stephan Harper not strengthened his minority.

I really prayed for a majority but I will accept these results as it shows he's making huge inroads and as a leader of the Great White North, we can have no better. As poster, Dr. Shalit, said and I agree with him wholeheartedly:

All in all a successful evening for PM Harper. Methinks that when the history is written, PM Harper will be for Canada as Reagan was for the US.

Well said and thank you. Actually, the very best part of this election is the FACT that that Green Party Harpy, Elizabeth May, is completely shut out, shut down and SHUT UP!

Hurray! :D

773 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:34am
774 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:48am

Good morning, Lizards! Big night for Johnny Mac.

775 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:54am

Excuse me if I missed this, but where is Babbazee? Just busy with her own blog or was there some messiness I missed. I hope the former.

776 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:58am

re: #768 realwest

Good morning jorline my friend! How are you feeling this morning? I'm doing pretty much ok and hope you are too!

Good morning, RW. Great news…the Rhuematologist that refused to see me has stepped up to the plate. My Internist knows him well and offices one floor above the Rhuemy. The Internist took my lab results and x-rays to him personally and told he was making a mistake by not seeing me. I received a call this morning saying that the Rhuemy would see me on November 3rd…still three before my appointment with the only other Rhuemy in town.

Hope you’re well today. Raining here, but my spirits are high and dry!

Let me know about any of your update via email…stay well.

777 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:33am

re: #747 realwest

Hey {Red}! Good morning to you; I'm doing ok today and hope you're doing at least as well!

Hey, {real}! Glad to hear you're doing ok. I'm pretty ok for an old gal!
;-)

778 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:35am

re: #766 aussiemagpie

Hi, I just thought I'd add something to the LGF menu tonight - a bit of crow with the donuts :-)

Strange diet we lizards have...;>)

779 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:50am

re: #763 Oldasdirt

Morning lizards,Hope McCain wins big tonight.
If not we may never be able to find a plumber when we need one.


Warning! This is politically incorrect!

There is a stereotypical plumber that always has his pants hanging low(that is how they were always described in cartoons when I was a kid anyways). Perhaps the plumbers union would prefer not to have monies taken from dues paying members and can provide underware that says nobama, or Obama keep out of my pocket. Then when the pants droop while working on the sink, the message is displayed.

780 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:54am

re: #735 broomer
Morning broomer - as I understand it, intrade.com is just sort of a more sophisticated Las Vegas bookie operation, so yeah, I'd put my money down, if I had any, for McCain cause he is gonna win, but I don't know what the "right odds" are at this point in time!

781 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:57am

re: #733 Kenneth

LOL! Glad to have that issue cleared up. Gonna have me some roast parrot for dinner tonight!

Hi Kenneth, and so good to see your election ended up so much better than ours did last November

Enjoy your dinner :-)

782 JSK1121  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:12am

re: #756 laZardo

Didn't big mafia groups always include Jews for some reason? Not that anyone who wasn't Italian would make the rank of caporegime...

/or at least the cliche went...

Probably for accounting and money laundering purposes because, after all, us Zionists control the money.

/do I even have to?

783 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:23am

re: #772 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪

I must say I feel a whole lot better today in how the election has turned out after a very restless night of no sleep and monster worries. I was terrified of a lunatic left wing coalition ready to rip Canada out by its roots had Stephan Harper not strengthened his minority.

I really prayed for a majority but I will accept these results as it shows he's making huge inroads and as a leader of the Great White North, we can have no better. As poster, Dr. Shalit, said and I agree with him wholeheartedly:

Well said and thank you. Actually, the very best part of this election is the FACT that that Green Party Harpy, Elizabeth May, is completely shut out, shut down and SHUT UP!

Hurray! :D

Good morning, Miss Trixie.

Love it when you hit the room singing.

784 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:25am

re: #773 taxfreekiller

Free Money
Money for nothing
Checks in the mail
What is yours soon will be mine
Tax and Spend your money

Obama's list.

True dat!
The land of opportunity
To the land of opportunists!

785 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:59am

re: #761 Karridine

Happy Hump Day to you too.

786 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:49am

re: #774 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Good morning, Lizards! Big night for Johnny Mac.

Big night...time to put away the peashooter.

787 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:58am

re: #762 aussiemagpie

Hi {redstateredneck} and good to see you too! Are you still doing the NASCAR thing? Just that I'm following the progress of Aussie Marcos Ambrose - I'd love to see him do really well

Only race I've been to this year was Talladega a couple of weeks ago. It's just not the same sport that it used to be and interest is waning for the mr and me.

788 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:26am

re: #784 reloadingisnotahobby

True dat!
The land of opportunity
To the land of opportunists!

Sadly, it won't take long for them to learn that all that printed money is not going to go far.

Sigh. I wonder how the sheeple are gonna like Zimbabwean inflation rates?

789 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:32am

re: #718 aussiemagpie
Good Morning/Evening Aussie..
good to see you again..
You must really enjoy messing with those Immans...Let's compile a list and submit to them..
Is it OK to BBQ Monkey tails?
You know..fun questions..

790 bosforus  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:47am

re: #784 reloadingisnotahobby

How's that weather in lower Utah treatin' ya? That is where you are isn't it?

791 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:43am

Dang, did I just say

Barack Hussein Obama = Robert Mugabe?

792 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:44am
793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:57am

re: #791 unreconstructed rebel

Dang, did I just say


RACIST!

/good morning, Lizards

794 Pyrocles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:00am

"Jesus, Ghandi, and MLK: Three good Liberals!" - Annoying bumper sticker I saw plastered next to an Obama '08 sticker on an Obamobile.

The way that Liberals are more likely to plaster their cars with annoying political statements than Conservatives is an interesting phenomenon. It probably has something to do with the fact that Liberals are also more prone to vandalism.

795 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:19am

re: #776 jorline

Great News Jorline!

796 Vergeltung  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:37am

re: #734 unreconstructed rebel

I suppose we are going the way of Nineveh and Tyre. Just sorry to see it so soon.

I think Rome is a better analogy. plenty of barbarians all around us!

797 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:52am

re: #790 bosforus

How's that weather in lower Utah treatin' ya? That is where you are isn't it?

Smack dab Central!
Warming trend today thu the weekend Ya!It'' be close to 70 thoday!
My heads about to burst////other than that? Beachy!
LOL
Taken a five day weekend to finish off my Wifes daughter yard and house
Moving in this weekend!

798 Oldasdirt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:56am

The One sounding like Robin in the Hood.Got his bow and tax arrow.
Tax arrow to be used to slay all business in America and make the whole country a welfare state.

799 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:14am

re: #744 pingjockey
Hey my friend a "Kapo" was a Jew in the camps who worked FOR the Nazi's to save his/her own life. They deliberately and knowningly helped the Nazi's murder Jews by the millions. IIRC, George Soros was a Kapo.
It's a name or term which, when applied to Jews, is the same as calling a Black person a N***er. Only worse.
Much worse.

800 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:16am

Speaking of Purges.. Markos Muolitsas (Chris Buckley's new pal)
wants to purge He wants republicans "broken"

Republicans will claim that McCain wasn't one of them, hence rationalizing away their loss. But if we decimate their ranks, including their conservative icons, it'll make it harder for them to justify their spin. Remember, we want them broken, their ranks thinned, their treasury in heavy debt, their morale in the gutter, void of any leadership, discredited in the eyes of the public.
801 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:31am

re: #795 HoosierHoops

Great News Jorline!

Thanks, Hoopster...pretty fired up here.

How are you today and what's for lunch?

802 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:57am

Market update:

The DOW dropped to about 280 down, now has worked its way back to about 240 down.

Mortgage rates have climbed in the last few days and here is my take on why. So many people have cashed out of investments and are sitting on cash, that banks are having to offer very high rates to attract deposits back.

The panic is over, investors are willing to accept some risk, but until things settle down they are sitting in cash.

803 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:05am

re: #800 FrogMarch

SCREW THEM.

/ [=

804 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:23am

Good morning.

So... Washington Post, or Workers' World Daily? You make the call!

In today's Washington Post Express (the little freebie paper they had out at the Metro stations), page 2, we see a photo of someone wearing a Grim Reaper costume, with "Capitalism" written on the scythe blade, standing in front of an impressive, columned building. The caption:

What sacrilege! How dare this reaper speak out against the mighty god of capitalism! What did you say? Because of the global financial crisis? Oh, that. But he's British. This makes perfect sense - we here in the United States would never question our glowing, healthy, free-market economy. The cloaked demon, on the other hand, his scythe and his fellow protesters from the National Shop Stewards Network made their feelings known outside the Bank of England in London Monday...

[emphasis mine]

Nice job, WaPo! Crude Marxist agitprop PLUS sophomoric writing... well done.

805 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:32am

re: #793 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

RACIST!

/good morning, Lizards

Inflamatory? Yes. Racist? Why?

806 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:33am

re: #752 gonecamping

Heck, they have already given him the election...telling us it is over. spit
I would love to see all the MSM eat crow on 11/5...how do you suppose they will spin it to try and save face when they are wrong?

Lord President Obama's already working on his next book.

/How to Lie and Buy your Way to the White House

807 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:44am

re: #803 laZardo

SCREW THEM.

/ [=

My sentiments, as well!

808 pingjockey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:53am

re: #799 realwest
That is what I thought. Just about the worst thing you could call a Jew.

809 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:58am

re: #757 realwest

G'day Lil Roo! My word you do live in a truly unsual nation! - beatuiful and friendly but, ah, unusual! LOL!
How are you this evening?

Hi there darls *smooch* (shamelessly pinched from Miss Trixie)

The site is in South Africa but people from everywhere ask the Imam these kind of very important questions - I was looking for the US ones - like "Imam oh greatest, who do I vote for"?"

I'ts a cool evening here, we dipped our toes into summer on Monday, and ran back to winter!

810 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:10am

There were a group of BHO supporters on the corner near Starkbutts this morning. I got my coffee then sat down and read the paper outside for about 20 minutes. Not a single car voted in support. This is an area with a plethora of McCain/Palin yard signs and bumperstickers in gated communities and containing all the private schools.

811 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:22am

re: #752 gonecamping

Heck, they have already given him the election...telling us it is over. spit
I would love to see all the MSM eat crow on 11/5...how do you suppose they will spin it to try and save face when they are wrong?


It's simple, if Obama isn't elected it will be because of White Racism. If he does win - it won't be credited to Black Racism (when over 90% of Blacks vote for him) but a victory over racism in America!
Trust me: the elites have answers - albeit STUPID answers, for every contingency.

812 bosforus  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:34am

re: #797 reloadingisnotahobby

Smack dab Central!

Relative to me that's lower. :)
5 day weekend?! Nice!

813 Oldasdirt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:32am

re: #803 laZardo

SCREW THEM.

/ [=

Democrat Tim Mahoney has been working on that,very hard.

814 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:34am
815 bosforus  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:36am

re: #811 realwest

It's simple, if Obama isn't elected it will be because of White Racism. If he does win - it won't be credited to Black Racism (when over 90% of Blacks vote for him) but a victory over racism in America!
Trust me: the elites have answers - albeit STUPID answers, for every contingency.

But it's their turn!

816 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:38am
817 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:45am

re: #778 scottishbuzzsaw

LOL. I followed this one back. I'm pondering whether the Imam would say if it was permissible to eat shiite.

819 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:56am

re: #770 reloadingisnotahobby

Goodmorning one and all!
A drive by before I hit the trail!
I've got a Bangin head cold and 125 ft of chian link to build !
Life truly is't fair!
Should get up into the high 60's today ,so all is not lost!
Ya'll remember,if we lose this (pray not),stock up on ammo
or the components.
Go out and butthat firearm you've been yernin for!
Congress and a couple changes on the bench will cost us dearly!
Loader


Morning back at ya loader, I'm just getting over a cold myself...plenty of water and zicam helps. Regarding the firearms...Bill Clinton had a problem with magazines of a certain capacity and decided to ban them. So I picked up a Beretta with the larger mag before the law was passed just to make a statement (plus, I wanted to add a Beretta to the collection).

820 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:08:42am

re: #810 MandyManners

I have only seen one "O" bumper sticker....On a 500,000
dollar motorhome from Cali......
WTF?

821 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:09:05am

Melanie Phillips - Pinch Yourself

You have to pinch yourself – a Marxisant radical who all his life has been mentored by, sat at the feet of, worshipped with, befriended, endorsed the philosophy of, funded and been in turn funded, politically promoted and supported by a nexus comprising black power anti-white racists, Jew-haters, revolutionary Marxists, unrepentant former terrorists and Chicago mobsters, is on the verge of becoming President of the United States. And apparently it’s considered impolite to say so.

822 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:09:34am

re: #810 MandyManners

Not a single car voted in support.

ACORN is registering cars to vote now?! This time they've really gone too far!

823 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:09:41am

re: #802 3 wood

Short term CDs are up, too?

824 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:09:57am

re: #810 MandyManners

This is an area with a plethora of McCain/Palin yard signs and bumperstickers in gated communities and containing all the private schools.

You're lucky, Mandy. The wealthy neighborhoods near me are carpeted with Obama signs. Much liberal guilt.

825 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:07am

re: #804 Occasional Reader

Good morning.

So... Washington Post, or Workers' World Daily? You make the call!

In today's Washington Post Express (the
little freebie paper they had out at the Metro stations), page 2, we
see a photo of someone wearing a Grim Reaper costume, with "Capitalism"
written on the scythe blade, standing in front of an impressive,
columned building. The caption:

[emphasis mine]

Nice job, WaPo! Crude Marxist agitprop PLUS sophomoric writing... well done.

You think Barry will mention "kulaks" or "wreckers" in his inauguration speech?

826 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:13am

re: #820 reloadingisnotahobby

I have only seen one "O" bumper sticker....On a 500,000
dollar motorhome from Cali......
WTF?

Just ain't no explaining some things.

827 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:18am

re: #819 gonecamping

Good on ya!
Beleive it or not....I don't oen a Berreta!
I know ..hard to beleive!
LOL
Must add that to my list!

828 laZardo  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:25am

re: #805 unreconstructed rebel

Because you had the audacity to criticize the Obamessiah!

/

829 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:52am

re: #820 reloadingisnotahobby

I have only seen one "O" bumper sticker....On a 500,000
dollar motorhome from Cali......
WTF?

There's such a thing as a $500,000 motorhome?

As to "O" stickers & signs on very expensive cars and homes... no shortage of that, none at all. This is the party of George Soros, after all.

830 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:54am

re: #824 Spenser (with an S)

You're lucky, Mandy. The wealthy neighborhoods near me are carpeted with Obama signs. Much liberal guilt.

All I can say is they must have cracker-jack tax lawyers.

831 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:12:00am

re: #822 Occasional Reader

ACORN is registering cars to vote now?! This time they've really gone too far!

LOL!

"Not a single driver honked in support."

832 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:12:12am

re: #756 laZardo
Um, actually no. Big Mafia groups, at least when they started wouldn't even allow Italians in, only Sicilians (where the Mafia or "Black Hand" started and stll thrives today). Over time Italians were admitted, but they frequently fought against Irish and Jewish mobs.
There were only a few Jews who "made it" in the Mafia, the most well known of whom was Meyer Lansky (whom I had the dubious pleasure of meeting once - in a situation which turned out comedic but could easily have gone the other way).
And, according to Lansky himself (who, btw, INVENTED Las Vegas as the gambling mecca it now is) the secret to his remaining above ground was that he always made money for his partners. He was also a boyhood chum of Lucky Luciano, and when Lucky became the boss of bosses, he gave Meyer Lansky the job of investing mafia money into legitimate, legal enterprises.

833 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:12:19am

re: #824 Spenser (with an S)

You're lucky, Mandy. The wealthy neighborhoods near me are carpeted with Obama signs. Much liberal guilt.

But, I though the rich & powerful voted Republican?
/it's the same way around where I live - the wealthiest neighborhood (not mine, but a few blocks away) is plastered with Obama signs.

834 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:13:12am

re: #824 Spenser (with an S)

You're lucky, Mandy. The wealthy neighborhoods near me are carpeted with Obama signs. Much liberal guilt.

In dire need of psychotherapy.

There are also DRILL HERE DRILL NOW stickers.

835 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:13:37am

re: #829 Occasional Reader

Oh yea,there 750,000 $$ motor couches out ther!
Ya want one?
Go to PalmSprings and buy them used for 35 cent on the dollar!

836 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:13:40am

Oil is down to $75 a barrel and predictions are a daily surplus of oil of 2.250 million barrels a day later this year. There are some predictions of another 70 cent per gallon drop at the retail pump. That would be the equivalent of a large increase in discretionary income.

OPEC, Chavez, Dinnerjacket and Putin are really going to be hurting.

837 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:13:48am

re: #805 unreconstructed rebel

Inflamatory? Yes. Racist? Why?

You're a racist for asking!
/obvious, I hope

838 J.S.  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:05am

re: #811 realwest

Speaking of racism...Charles Barkley was on Larry King -- Barkley wants to bring the issue of race back to the table --Barkley wants to run for Govenor of Alabama in 2010 -- and, yes, it's all about race he says -- it's about "being black" (Barkley says he's been "inspired" by Obama-- that's I'm assuming, inspired by Obama's overt racism about "being black" and "special" I guess.)

839 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:07am

re: #830 unreconstructed rebel

All I can say is they must have cracker-jack tax lawyers.

Are you doubting their patriotic fervor to turn over their money?

840 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:10am

re: #772 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning {lizards!} ♬ ♪

I must say I feel a whole lot better today in how the election has turned out after a very restless night of no sleep and monster worries. I was terrified of a lunatic left wing coalition ready to rip Canada out by its roots had Stephan Harper not strengthened his minority.

I really prayed for a majority but I will accept these results as it shows he's making huge inroads and as a leader of the Great White North, we can have no better. As poster, Dr. Shalit, said and I agree with him wholeheartedly:


Well said and thank you. Actually, the very best part of this election is the FACT that that Green Party Harpy, Elizabeth May, is completely shut out, shut down and SHUT UP!

Hurray! :D

G'day darls - no Greenies at all in Parliament! Wonderful!

841 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:34am

re: #833 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

the wealthiest neighborhood (not mine, but a few blocks away

Nice try... you're one of those EVIL RICH REPUBLICANS, aren't you?

Someone get a rope!

842 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:53am

re: #836 3 wood

Oil is down to $75 a barrel and predictions are a daily surplus of oil of 2.250 million barrels a day later this year. There are some predictions of another 70 cent per gallon drop at the retail pump. That would be the equivalent of a large increase in discretionary income.

OPEC, Chavez, Dinnerjacket and Putin are really going to be hurting.

Price per gallon of gas was 2.99 here over the weekend...(St. Louis area)

843 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:10am

re: #816 MandyManners

His daddy is spinning in his grave.

He is. Chris is allowed to do what ever he wants - but this is a disgrace.

844 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:20am

re: #838 J.S.

Speaking of racism...Charles Barkley was on Larry King -- Barkley wants to bring the issue of race back to the table --Barkley wants to run for Govenor of Alabama in 2010 -- and, yes, it's all about race he says -- it's about "being black" (Barkley says he's been "inspired" by Obama-- that's I'm assuming, inspired by Obama's overt racism about "being black" and "special" I guess.)

Shaddup, Charley.

845 realwest  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:20am

re: #772 {Miss Trixie}
Good morning gorgeous and here's a big *smoooch* for you for your country's coming to it's senses!
BTW, what did the polls predict oh about a month ago for that race, do you recall?

846 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:24am

re: #811 realwest

It's simple, if Obama isn't elected it will be because of White Racism. If he does win - it won't be credited to Black Racism (when over 90% of Blacks vote for him) but a victory over racism in America!
Trust me: the elites have answers - albeit STUPID answers, for every contingency.

Morning Real,

If the press stokes up the fires of racism...however unjustly deserved, we could have some serious problems. The Bush Derangement Syndrome was vicious, but for the most part only vocal. If the MSM and the activists are successful in stirring up anger over a perceived slight, we could very well see actual riots instead of the koskids sniveling and Hollywood spewing nonsense. Look at the stuff that goes on in France when the 'oppressed' rage filled punks burn police cars and shops.

This BS about racism has to stop before it escalates, it is yet another tool of the radicals to attack the social and political structure of this great country.

847 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:25am

re: #829 Occasional Reader

There's such a thing as a $500,000 motorhome?


Prevosts probably start at $500K.

848 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:58am

re: #838 J.S.

Speaking of racism...Charles Barkley was on Larry King -- Barkley wants to bring the issue of race back to the table --Barkley wants to run for Govenor of Alabama in 2010 -- and, yes, it's all about race he says -- it's about "being black" (Barkley says he's been "inspired" by Obama-- that's I'm assuming, inspired by Obama's overt racism about "being black" and "special" I guess.)

Obama inspires me!
To [deleted]deleted] [then deleted]!
I think that about covers it!

849 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:05am

re: #841 Occasional Reader

Nice try... you're one of those EVIL RICH REPUBLICANS, aren't you?

Someone get a rope!

Heh. You should have seen the looks on my co-worker's faces at the last cocktail party when I "came out." Our President politely asked me if I was mentally disabled. Looking forward to tonight's party!

850 akak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:08am

re: #834 MandyManners

In dire need of psychotherapy.

There are also DRILL HERE DRILL NOW stickers.

Gazprom meetin with Alaskan officials.......can we get some more white flags over here .......puhlease

851 3 wood  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:20am

re: #823 Cap'n DOC

Short term CDs are up, too?

Not yet.

Loan rates are up.

852 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:24am

re: #778 scottishbuzzsaw

Strange diet we lizards have...;>)


Can I interest you in a Vegemite sandwich?

853 Occasional Reader  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:25am

And a hearty "congratulations" to all the Canadian lizards.

Here's hoping the American voters follow your example.

854 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:32am

re: #836 3 wood

Oil is down to $75 a barrel and predictions are a daily surplus of oil of 2.250 million barrels a day later this year. There are some predictions of another 70 cent per gallon drop at the retail pump. That would be the equivalent of a large increase in discretionary income.

OPEC, Chavez, Dinnerjacket and Putin are really going to be hurting.

That is excellent for many reasons, but the cloud in that silver lining is it takes the urgency off "drill now" projects and lowers the profit of any shale-oil type projects, no?

855 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:16am

re: #843 FrogMarch

He is. Chris is allowed to do what ever he wants - but this is a disgrace.

Strange.

856 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:23am

re: #843 FrogMarch

He is. Chris is allowed to do what ever he wants - but this is a disgrace.

He doesn't want to drive the kooks out of the party as his father did...he wants to join them...some are growing weary of being in the party that's battered 24/7...with ease one can be popular again!

857 Miss Trixie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:26am

{realwest} Good morning, luv *smoochie* Thinking of you as I always do and I hope you're feeling fine.

Thanks, jorline, it's good to see you too. :D

{aussie} Honey, go ahead and swipe smoochies to plant on realwest - just watch out for whisker burn ... :P BTW - can you let mousie know that I'm unable to get to her place? For some reason, my system won't let me. :(