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Open | Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 10:45:00 pm PDT

It’s a good idea for diplomats to keep their word in small matters. It makes the later complete betrayals more of a surprise.

John Barnes

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1 Macker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:45:40pm
2 pegcity  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:45:52pm

yay harper

3 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:47:59pm

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

4 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:48:49pm

McCain "talks tough"

Look at that first paragraph --

TOLEDO, Ohio, (AFP) - Republican John McCain has a third and final chance to debate his way back into contention when he faces his hard-charging White House rival Barack Obama in New York on Wednesday.

Back into contention, lol.

5 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:49:16pm

Canada remains Conservative -- although yet another Minority government.

I have not yet lived under a proper Conservative Majority. I would LOVE to see what one could do for my country.

GO Harper GO!

6 Macker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:49:57pm

re: #3 rawmuse

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

Yep: Here are the totals:

Conservatives: 141 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 143
Liberals: 74 Elected, 3 Leading. Total: 77
Bloc Québécois: 48 Elected, 1 Leading. Total: 49
New Democratic Party: 35 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 37
Independent: 2 Elected, 0 Leading. Total: 2

Grits Lost Big Time! Harper gets a stronger minority government.

7 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:51:35pm

re: #3 rawmuse

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

Indeed -- Harper is working wonders for the Conservatives.

Although, they say the main reason is because the liberal vote is split between the Liberals and the New Democrat Part (NDP) (read: left and farther left). Of course, Quebec stole a hell of a lot seats as usual with their Bloc Quebecois. The seperatist party that can never become a majority government, but loves to cause so many problems as a large minority that campaigns in only one of the 10 Canadian provinces.

8 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:51:41pm

re: #6 Macker

Congratulations! God save the Queen.

9 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:52:08pm

re: #3 rawmuse

What? Canada is electing conservatives? Canada?

And so many here want to elect an empty suit Marxist. *Yeesh*

10 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:07pm

re: #9 FurryOldGuyJeans

And so many here want to elect an empty suit Marxist. *Yeesh*


The Marxist-Leninist Party candidate in my riding got 139 votes! *shudders*

(YES! Canada has a Marxist Leninist Party! Even though not a single candidate one)

11 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:20pm

re: #10 Joo-LiZ

won* PIMF

12 Macker  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:26pm

re: #8 rawmuse

Congratulations! God save the Queen.

Actually, I'm not Canadian. But I love and give a damn about Canada anyways. My Canadian Friends are quite surprised I know more about their politics than some of their OWN friends and neighbours.

13 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:53:53pm

re: #5 Joo-LiZ

Canada remains Conservative -- although yet another Minority government.

I have not yet lived under a proper Conservative Majority. I would LOVE to see what one could do for my country.

GO Harper GO!

Looks like that is a good possibility if Harper keeps up the fight. Even half a loaf is better than watching someone else eating a sandwich.

14 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:54:11pm

re: #12 Macker

Actually, I'm not Canadian. But I love and give a damn about Canada anyways. My Canadian Friends are quite surprised I know more about their politics than some of their OWN friends and neighbours.

I appreciate that -- I was looking at Ace of Spades, and the contempt they had for Canada was disappointing to say the least.

15 Tamron  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:55:05pm

Re: Obama's stance on abortion:

April 4, 2002: OBAMA CAUGHT ON TAPE ARGUING AGAINST GIVING MEDICAL ATTENTION TO ABORTED BABIES WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.

Obama opposed SB1663 arguing he had "confidence" that the abortionist - who was invested in attempting to kill the child pre-delivery - would not mind revealing his or her botch by calling a 2nd physician to ensure the child was given proper medical attention and revived if possible.

Obama thought it remarkable to suspect an abortionist of having a subjective medical opinion about his new second patient. It didn't occur to Obama that the abortionist might also be invested in seeing the baby dead to preclude malpractice lawsuits down the road if the baby were found not to have pre-birth diagnosed defects, an overriding reason for these late-term induced labor abortions.

But Obama's most telling statement from the clip was to say this bill "is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion."

In other words, if a baby were to survive his or her abortion, the death plan marked out for this child should be carried out nonetheless.


Read the transcript, and then click on the audio link to hear him say it in his own words.
.

16 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:55:10pm

re: #10 Joo-LiZ

The Marxist-Leninist Party candidate in my riding got 139 votes! *shudders*

(YES! Canada has a Marxist Leninist Party! Even though not a single candidate one)

You want one? We have a slightly used one you can have, real cheap. ;)

17 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:57:25pm

re: #15 Tamron

In other words, if a baby were to survive his or her abortion, the death plan marked out for this child should be carried out nonetheless.

Egads, another Final Solution.

18 Syrah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:57:34pm
It’s a good idea for diplomats to keep their word in small matters. It makes the later complete betrayals more of a surprise.

— John Barnes

Like something out of a "Retief" novel.

They are very good books. I recommend them.

19 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 10:58:46pm

re: #16 FurryOldGuyJeans

You want one? We have a slightly used one you can have, real cheap. ;)

Hell's bells, lets raise money, I'd pay to get rid of 'em.

20 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:00:24pm
21 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:01:34pm

Go Canada!

22 Candyxman  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:01:59pm

mmm tasty liberals

23 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:02:06pm

re: #4 TheMatrix31

McCain "talks tough"

Look at that first paragraph --


Back into contention, lol.

So, was it Reagan trailing Carter by this margin, and GWB trailing Al Gore by this margin, at this stage prior to the election? I thought that's what I heard Bill O'Reilly saying on his radio program tonight, but I mostly tune him out so I just barely caught it.

I don't know if the situation is as dire as the media would like us to believe. That said, I hope McCain gets the TKO tomorrow night.

24 tokyobk  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:01pm

Speaking of fish. A pretty funny review of London Take-away sushi by a master chef, trying his best not to go scatological.

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:07pm

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

26 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:07pm

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

27 Syrah  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:03:38pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Acorns.

28 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:04:23pm

re: #20 rawmuse

US Communists say their time has come.

Wow.

"There is no communist running for the White House and the Communist Party does not endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Yet many staff here wore his picture on lapel buttons, while Republican John McCain was relegated to a box of tissues -- the tissues being pulled through his mouth."

I thought they always endorsed the Democrat in the presidential election. I guess I was mistaken about that. I thought I read something about Obama on their website though, indicating that he wasn't perfect, but that he was basically their guy.

29 suboptimal  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:04:26pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

How to cry "racism"?

/

30 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:04:39pm

re: #20 rawmuse

US Communists say their time has come.

One of their's is soooo close.

31 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:05:31pm

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

32 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:06:34pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

I am thinking Belize.

33 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:06:40pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

No. We'd be the wrong skin hue for the refugees they consider to be chic.

34 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:07:48pm

re: #15 Tamron

Re: Obama's stance on abortion:

April 4, 2002: OBAMA CAUGHT ON TAPE ARGUING AGAINST GIVING MEDICAL ATTENTION TO ABORTED BABIES WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.


Read the transcript, and then click on the audio link to hear him say it in his own words.
.

Ugh, I tried reading the transcript and I want to reach through the screen and slap him.

USE LESS WORDS
SPEAK IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU

It's typical Obama stutter-speak. Even back then. Bleah.

35 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:16pm

re: #29 suboptimal

How to cry "racism"?

/

Unless BHO hits McCain or calls him a grumpy old white guy, it will be another debate where McCain wins on points and loses on style--IOW, a win for BHO

36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:22pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Change you can be deceived by.

37 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:51pm

Re: CPUSA endorsement - I don't think this is where I saw it, but Charles had it here. I looked at this endorsement when I was checking out the New Party stuff last week.

38 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:08:58pm

re: #28 capitalist piglet

Wow.

"There is no communist running for the White House and the Communist Party does not endorse Democrat Barack Obama.

Yet many staff here wore his picture on lapel buttons, while Republican John McCain was relegated to a box of tissues -- the tissues being pulled through his mouth."

I thought they always endorsed the Democrat in the presidential election. I guess I was mistaken about that. I thought I read something about Obama on their website though, indicating that he wasn't perfect, but that he was basically their guy.

They endorses Obama we had a thread on it.

39 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:09:22pm

re: #36 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Change you can be deceived by.

Funny. The slogan Nixon used in his first campaign called for Change.

40 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:09:50pm

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

Eat or be eaten.

41 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:11:31pm

LOL. I'm thinking of wearing my Nobama shirt to school tomorrow. Good idea?

42 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:11:36pm

Who do you think is more right-leaning? Berlusconi or Harper?

/always wanted a place along the Amalfi coast.

43 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:12:30pm

re: #40 Sharmuta

Eat or be eaten.

Since BHO is into wealth redistribution, how about "Every Man a King"

This was some scary shit, even for the 30's.

44 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:12:32pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation

So if the 0-man wins, does this mean I can run off to a more conservative Canada for sanctuary?

Yes - when the Red Sox win the world series...LOL.

45 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:12:48pm

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

Sarkozy

46 NeoKong  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:14:21pm

...

47 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:14:37pm

re: #43 calcajun

Dig the all-girl band.

48 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:14:51pm

re: #46 NeoKong

No they'll find a way to blame this on Republicans.

49 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:15:05pm

re: #46 NeoKong

FBI Reported to Begin Probe of Florida Congressman

Ha Ha!


This is the jerk who took Mark Foley's seat after his scandal.

Will he resign...?

When the Red Sox win the World Series.

50 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:15:10pm

re: #32 rawmuse

I am thinking Belize.

Belize - are you nuts?
They don't have black flies and mosquitoes there!
LOL.

51 calcajun  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:15:11pm

And more to make ya'll sleep well. See, history does repeat itself.

52 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:16:25pm

re: #50 sparrowlake

They speak English and you can buy a passport. Not cheap, but doable.
The weather doesn't suck, except for the occasional hurricane.

53 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:16:25pm

re: #44 sparrowlake

Yes - when the Red Sox win the world series...LOL.


Someone's not a particularly good student of recent baseball history. At least the part before this week....

/Good thing you didn't say 'When the Bruins win the Stanley Cup'

54 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:17:18pm

re: #34 Pawn of the Oppressor

Ugh, I tried reading the transcript and I want to reach through the screen and slap him.

USE LESS WORDS
SPEAK IN COMPLETE SENTENCES
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOU

It's typical Obama stutter-speak. Even back then. Bleah.

To be fair, would you want to be understood clearly if your message was, "If a baby comes out alive during an abortion, no doctor should be allowed to help it survive: it has to be left to die in a specimen bucket"?

55 spidly  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:17:23pm

re: #46 NeoKong

56 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:17:29pm

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

or some self predicating "When the Cubs win the World Series" :(

57 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:18:39pm

re: #46 NeoKong

Mahoney's problems to one side, will anyone hold Rahm Emmanuel and Nancy Pelosi responsible for helping Mahoney in covering up the scandal?

58 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:18:49pm

re: #55 spidly

democrat...he won't resign.
Isn't William Jefferson (D-LA) still wandering around?

He's being treated for frostbite......

59 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:19:11pm

re: #55 spidly

democrat...he won't resign.
Isn't William Jefferson (D-LA) still wandering around?

Yep... going into a runoff election.

60 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:20:03pm

re: #54 stuiec

To be fair, would you want to be understood clearly if your message was, "If a baby comes out alive during an abortion, no doctor should be allowed to help it survive: it has to be left to die in a specimen bucket"?

This was not the position I knew!

61 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:20:30pm

re: #53 Fenway_Nation

Someone's not a particularly good student of recent baseball history. At least the part before this week....

/Good thing you didn't say 'When the Bruins win the Stanley Cup'

LOL. Or the Leafs - c'mon up!

62 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:20:36pm

re: #57 stuiec

Mahoney's problems to one side, will anyone hold Rahm Emmanuel and Nancy Pelosi responsible for helping Mahoney in covering up the scandal?

Will the media go wall to wall with the Mahoney scandal just be the election like they did with Foley.

63 saltmarsh  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:21:12pm

:Mr. McCain, are you prepared for tomorrow night's debate against SENATOR Obama?

:Where's he at, where's he at. Lemme attem, lemme attem. I'll tear em apart, I'll tear em limb from limb. I'll kick his ass till his nose bleeds and then kick him for bleeding.

:He's right over there Mr. McCain.....

:My Friends....

/I hope not

64 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:21:47pm

re: #50 sparrowlake

Belize - are you nuts?
They don't have black flies and mosquitoes there!
LOL.

They sure as hell have mosquitoes there.

10 Wild Things to Watch Out For

As a sub-tropical and tropical country, Belize is rich in life forms, including some that are not very nice to human beings. Fortunately, most visitors to Belize aren't bothered by these denizens of the wild, save for the occasional mozzie or no-see-um bites.

# 1 No-see-ums (sandflies, sandfleas, midge gnats, purrujas)

These buggers are twice as mean as mozzies -- watch out for them near mangrove swamps and on a windless day on the coast or cayes; Avon Skin-So-Soft may help some.

# 2 Mozzies

Some mosquitos in Belize do carry dangerous diseases including malaria and dengue fever. Many visitors to Belize are surprised, though, that mosquitoes are not as bad as they feared. The nearly constant winds on the cayes keeps mozzies at bay, and much of Cayo District escapes the plague of these bugs. They are worse in the late summer after periods of rain, and in southern Belize (which gets more rain than any other part of the country.)

# 3 Botfly

This little horror, happily not a problem for most visitors, gets the help of a mosquito to place its egg under your skin which can grow to the size of your thumb-- yecch! Lure the "doctor fly" out with a slab of fatback or bacon placed over the entrance; kill it by smothering it to death with vaseline or glue; or apply the sap of the bot killer tree, or some say, a piece of tobacco.

# 4 Yellow-jawed tommygoff (fer-de-lance)

This highly poisonous snake attacks aggressively. It has heat-seeking fangs and can strike accurately even in the dark. Avoid it, and if by rare chance you are bitten get medical attention immediately. Belize has about 20 types of poisonous snakes of which "only" nine are deadly.

# 5 "Alligators"

Called thus by many Belizeans, but Belize actually has only crocodiles, the larger American and the smaller Morelet's. Occasional attacks on humans are recorded in Belize.

# 6 Scorpions

These are common all over Belize. They are often present in the walls of buildings (avoid leaving wet towels out) or in thatch roofs. Their sting hurts, usually not much worse than the sting of a wasp, and isn't fatal.

# 7 Warries (White-Lipped Peccary)

Peccaries are related to pigs. White-Lipped Peccaries, now rare in Belize, travel in large herds. If you hear loud bellowing, screeching and tooth-clacking (and don't happen to be in Big Daddy's late at night), climb the nearest tree, as warries can be hazardous to your health.

# 8 Killer bees

The stings of Africanized bees hurt no more than those of ordinary honeybees, but killer bees are far more aggressive and ill-tempered. They have killed many cattle and other livestock in Belize, and in Costa Rica at least 16 human deaths have been attributed to killer bee attacks. Virtually all the honeybees you see in Belize are now Africanized and are present in most areas, even Ambergris Caye. If you stumble on a hive, try to get under a roof (bees usually won't follow you under a shelter) or into water.

# 9 Tarantulas

You may see one of these furry balls of fun on the rainforest floor or even on a village sidewalk. Their bite can be painful but isn't serious. Some people keep these as pets.

# 10 Jaws and other sea critters

Belize has all the usual denizens of the deep -- sharks, stingrays, barracuda, moray eels, fire coral, etc. Most of these are as harmless as sheepdogs, as least according to the guys at the dive shop.

Honorable Mention: Vampire bats

Belize does have vampire bats, whose bite may cause rabies, but unless you sleep outside a lot without clothes on, don't worry. Belize's many species of bats do worlds of good, from eating mozzies to pollinating fruit.

65 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:22:41pm

re: #62 jcm

Will the media go wall to wall with the Mahoney scandal just be the election like they did with Foley.

That would be... no.

66 ggt  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:23:26pm

Hey Early Morning/Late Night Lizards! I haven't slept yet.

What's going on?

67 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:24:28pm

re: #65 stuiec

That would be... no.

But, but they're unbiased!
//////////////////////////// extreme

68 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:24:37pm

re: #18 Syrah
All I remember is that they were very funny.

69 stuiec  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:24:42pm

re: #60 Pawn of the Oppressor

This was not the position I knew!

I am not sure I can wrap my mind around someone who looks at a baby and thinks, "Punishment."

70 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:25:21pm

ACORN goes under the bus:

"There is an ACORN organization in Chicago," Obama continued. "They have been active. As an elected official, I've had interactions with them. But they are not advising our campaign. We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don’t need ACORN’s help.

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.

71 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:27:21pm

re: #69 stuiec

I am not sure I can wrap my mind around someone who looks at a baby and thinks, "Punishment."

Rinse enough diapers, get puked on enough, get woke up at night enough..........

*Just kidding folks*

72 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:28:12pm

Oh, is that so, Barack? So I guess you don't need them to help shape the agenda once you're President, right?

I'm going to have gray hairs and high blood pressure. Someone stop me.

73 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:28:20pm

re: #64 stuiec

Keeps the riff-raff out.

74 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:29:27pm

re: #31 Fenway_Nation
I think the pendulum has to swing right allot more for Canada to be as conservative as America. However they are at least going in the right direction while we seem to be swinging left.

75 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:29:45pm

re: #3 rawmuse

Yes we did

76 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:29:55pm

Morning all, finally checking in. Well I talked the GF into voting. Unfortunately she voted Liberal. Well nobodys perfect I guess.

77 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:30:06pm

re: #64 stuiec

Definitely go to Belize./

78 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:30:10pm

re: #72 TheMatrix31

Nice friend ACORN has in 0bama, huh?

79 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:30:48pm

re: #7 Joo-LiZ

Harper's performance in the debates was bad but hey, he is way better than the Commies.

80 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:31:11pm

re: #74 rancher

I think the pendulum has to swing right allot more for Canada to be as conservative as America. However they are at least going in the right direction while we seem to be swinging left.

Canada could easily be as fiscally conservative as the US or more so. But we could never be as socially conservative, particularly as long as Quebec is part of Canada. We have a different culture and traditions.

81 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:31:27pm

re: #32 rawmuse

Stay where you are and fight back.

82 winston06  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:31:50pm

re: #80 Moe Katz

Not to mention NDP commies.

83 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:32:19pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

ACORN goes under the bus:

LIAR ............ here is a copy of a flyer they put out in Ohio ......

[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Law Firm Resume from Miner, et al firm .......

[Link: www.lawmbg.com...]

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.

84 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:33:37pm

re: #81 winston06

Stay where you are and fight back.

OK, maybe just a vacation condo, then.

85 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:33:42pm

re: #83 JacksonTn

I screwed up that post like crazy ...... anyway the two links are to show ....... once again ...... LIAR

86 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:34:34pm

re: #82 winston06

I still call Jack Layton a traitor. A lot of people even agree with me.

/some of those being liberals.

87 jcm  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:33pm

Some folks in WA found their cajones.

Olympia port to sue anti-war protesters

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) - More than 60 anti-war demonstrators were arrested last November at the Port of Olympia protesting Fort Lewis-Iraq war shipments.

Port commissioners are angry that none of the arrests have yet led to criminal convictions. So commissioners voted Monday to file civil lawsuits against people who block roads, damage public property and interfere with port business.

88 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:37pm

re: #82 winston06

Not to mention NDP commies.

We have the NDP because they have deep roots in our culture. The old stock founding peoples of Canada are more collectivist than the Americans. However, some of the newer immigrant groups such as those from Asia could tilt the balance toward the right. Our conservatism is still likely to remain more similar to that of Europeans, though, because we have a different history from the Americans. My two cents' worth anyway.

89 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:48pm

re: #83 JacksonTn

Oh- I know he's lying his ass off. In a way, it's a good thing. We can show he's lying. He can't refute cold, hard facts, but he can try.

90 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:35:57pm

re: #78 Sharmuta

Nice friend ACORN has in 0bama, huh?

You've Got A Friend In Me

91 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:37:04pm

re: #86 BlueCanuck

I still call Jack Layton a traitor. A lot of people even agree with me.

/some of those being liberals.

Calling him a traitor is simply stating the obvious.

92 Tamron  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:38:00pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

ACORN goes under the bus:

I hope they toss him under the bus tomorrow.


How does that relate to this video, where Obama states that the FIRST 100 DAYS AFTER HE IS ELECTED, ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL HELP SHAPE HIS ADMINISTRATION.
.

93 JacksonTn  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:39:00pm

Look at this map ........ strategy or just looking out for all those poor disenfranchised voters (well at least the ones in the swing states) ........ COME ON FEDS STEP IT UP ....

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

94 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:39:05pm

re: #86 BlueCanuck

I still call Jack Layton a traitor. A lot of people even agree with me.
/some of those being liberals.

Layton attended the Dem convention and took notes. He then tried to peddle the BHO hope and change message up here. Thank goodness it didn't fly.

95 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:41:36pm

re: #91 Moe Katz

Calling him a traitor is simply stating the obvious.


True, but having people agree is the big point I think.

re: #94 sparrowlake

Heard him in the last debate. Tried reaching through the monitor everytime he called Harper's administration Bush lite.

96 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:45:09pm

re: #95 BlueCanuck

True, but having people agree is the big point I think.

re: #94 sparrowlake

Heard him in the last debate. Tried reaching through the monitor everytime he called Harper's administration Bush lite.

He's a POS. I was raised NDP, but it wasn't like that with Tommy Douglas and David Lewis. They were on the side of western civilization.

97 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:46:19pm

re: #92 Tamron

How does that relate to this video, where Obama states that the FIRST 100 DAYS AFTER HE IS ELECTED, ACORN AND FRIENDS WILL HELP SHAPE HIS ADMINISTRATION.
.

Half the fun will be watching how he tries to spin his way out of the hole he's dug.

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:46:58pm

re: #90 TheMatrix31

You've Got A Friend In Me

I love Pixar movies! Thanks.

99 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:47:40pm

The good news is that right now I get the NHL network and the free trail version of the NHL Center Ice ticket.

However, this also means that along with the CBC or Rogers coverage, I've been treated to Green party adverts. For example, 30 seconds of some dour, frumpy bespectacled-looking woman on a bus going on and on about the gap between the wealthy and the poor in Canada. Apparently working Canadians just aren't doing their part and need to pay more taxes for the 'greater good' (seemed to be the jist of what she's getting at).

I'm sure Canucks like Hugh Rowland or Alex Debagorski would be thrilled to get paid less and less for driving 18-wheelers across frozen lakes or the Arctic Ocean to help support the drug addicts and welfare cheats of Montreal or Vancouver.

100 Tamron  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:49:21pm

Hey, check this out:

BIG DOG ROBOT


The Most Advanced Quadruped Robot on Earth
BigDog is the alpha male of the Boston Dynamics family of robots. It is a quadruped robot that walks, runs, and climbs on rough terrain and carries heavy loads. BigDog is powered by a gasoline engine that drives a hydraulic actuation system. BigDog's legs are articulated like an animal’s, and have compliant elements that absorb shock and recycle energy from one step to the next. BigDog is the size of a large dog or small mule, measuring 1 meter long, 0.7 meters tall and 75 kg weight.

BigDog has an on-board computer that controls locomotion, servos the legs and handles a wide variety of sensors. BigDog’s control system manages the dynamics of its behavior to keep it balanced, steer, navigate, and regulate energetics as conditions vary. Sensors for locomotion include joint position, joint force, ground contact, ground load, a laser gyroscope, and a stereo vision system. Other sensors focus on the internal state of BigDog, monitoring the hydraulic pressure, oil temperature, engine temperature, rpm, battery charge and others.

In separate trials, BigDog runs at 4 mph, climbs slopes up to 35 degrees, walks across rubble, and carries a 340 lb load.


This thing looks creepy, but it really would be handy in bringing a quartered moose out of the bush...
.

101 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:50:14pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

I think McCain should toss him a crate of dynomite whiles in that hole. He needs to get deeper I think.

102 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:50:39pm

re: #80 Moe Katz

Canada could easily be as fiscally conservative as the US or more so.


Especially after what we did in the last two weeks, lol!

But we could never be as socially conservative, particularly as long as Quebec is part of Canada. We have a different culture and traditions.


Ah, that wonderful French Culture.

103 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:53:53pm

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

The good news is that the Green Party didn't win a single seat. That also includes their party leader.

104 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:54:11pm

re: #102 rancher

Ah, that wonderful French Culture.

Yes, but the old-stock Anglo Canadians are also a bit more like the British than you Americans are---more statist, less individualist. Canada started out as an alliance between the conquered French colonists and people of British descent, of whom a large proportion were originally your Loyalists from the American Revolution.

105 sparrowlake  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:57:32pm

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

However, this also means that along with the CBC or Rogers coverage, I've been treated to Green party adverts. For example, 30 seconds of some dour, frumpy bespectacled-looking woman on a bus going on and on about the gap between the wealthy and the poor in Canada. Apparently working Canadians just aren't doing their part and need to pay more taxes for the 'greater good' (seemed to be the jist of what she's getting at).

That was Elizabeth May, the leader of the Green Party. She has never been elected and she lost this time too. The Green Party has no elected members of Parliament. They got about 9% of the popular vote (including a lot of strategic or protest votes), but elected zero members. They are so far a harmless party, and actually serve a useful purpose by helping to split the leftard vote.

106 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:59:39pm

re: #105 sparrowlake

Some more good news I think. Toronto elected five more Conservatives compared with the last election. I think at this rate we may get some more in the next one too.

107 rancher  Tue, Oct 14, 2008 11:59:59pm

re: #93 JacksonTn

Look at this map ........ strategy or just looking out for all those poor disenfranchised voters (well at least the ones in the swing states) ........ COME ON FEDS STEP IT UP ....

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

I'm in NM and plan to vote first thing in the morning October 18th. I may be paranoid but I want to vote before someone votes for me.

108 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:00:26am

Apparently I made my Grandma cry because I told her she's crazy or whatever. I just saw my brother's text message. "You made Grandma cry, next time just brush her comments off, she doesn't know anything."

I responded with "I don't care. She offended me too. How dare she tell me that I don't know anything just because I'm 20 and that I basically couldn't hold our Uncle's jock? Fuck that."

109 ggt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:01:27am

There is a hurricane hitting Puerto Rico.

why is the music on the weather channel so lame? I half expect to hear the "girl from impanema (sp?)

110 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:05:23am

re: #99 Fenway_Nation

I'm sure Canucks like Hugh Rowland or Alex Debagorski would be thrilled to get paid less and less for driving 18-wheelers across frozen lakes or the Arctic Ocean to help support the drug addicts and welfare cheats of Montreal or Vancouver.


Those guys are nuts, don'tcha know? Hey, you got to spread the wealth to help those behind you.

111 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:06:20am

re: #106 BlueCanuck

Some more good news I think. Toronto elected five more Conservatives compared with the last election. I think at this rate we may get some more in the next one too.

Yep, we're slowly hemming them in.
Very slowly.
LOL.

112 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:06:33am

re: #109 ggt

There is a hurricane hitting Puerto Rico.

why is the music on the weather channel so lame? I half expect to hear the "girl from impanema (sp?)

I think there's a bit of a bossa nova revival right now. Maybe that's what you're hearing that reminds you of "Girl From Ipanema."

113 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:08:13am

re: #111 sparrowlake

Yep, we're slowly hemming them in.
Very slowly.
LOL.


We could do with fewer remarks from Harper like the one about the economic crisis being a good opportunity to buy bargain stocks. Sheesh. For a guy that was raised in an NDP family....

114 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:10:21am

re: #108 TheMatrix31

Oh, boy!

While I agree with you, I have to tell you- you're going to have to apologize. That's just the way a lot of male-female relationships work. Let me tell you a little story-

For awhile, my liberal Uncle and I had a duplex we were renting together. We had agreed we would not discuss politics while we were roomies. So one night, while in my room, he brings up Clinton and Palestinians. Oh man- I got so pissed I told him to leave my room. Next day- I had an apology card. That's just the way it works.

Tell Gram you love her, you're sorry, but you still feel you're right. And remember this advice about women in the future too.

115 ggt  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:10:26am

re: #112 Moe Katz

I thought it was called "elevator music" --it has a real name/category?

Anyway, because of it, I think I can go to sleep now.

BTW, the temperature is 58 degrees in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland right now and we have a 60% chance of rain tomorrow.

weet dreams.

116 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:10:49am

re: #109 ggt

There is a hurricane hitting Puerto Rico.

why is the music on the weather channel so lame? I half expect to hear the "girl from impanema (sp?)

I happen to love "The Girl From Ipanema" esp. the Getz version.

117 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:11:32am

re: #104 Moe Katz

Yes, but the old-stock Anglo Canadians are also a bit more like the British than you Americans are---more statist, less individualist. Canada started out as an alliance between the conquered French colonists and people of British descent, of whom a large proportion were originally your Loyalists from the American Revolution.

Old stock Anglo is a quickly shrinking minority and their culture is quickly receding before the endless non-European waves of immigrants.

118 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:13:01am

re: #114 Sharmuta

Oh, boy!

While I agree with you, I have to tell you- you're going to have to apologize. That's just the way a lot of male-female relationships work. Let me tell you a little story-

For awhile, my liberal Uncle and I had a duplex we were renting together. We had agreed we would not discuss politics while we were roomies. So one night, while in my room, he brings up Clinton and Palestinians. Oh man- I got so pissed I told him to leave my room. Next day- I had an apology card. That's just the way it works.

Tell Gram you love her, you're sorry, but you still feel you're right. And remember this advice about women in the future too.

Yeah, I will. But I don't understand why I have to be the one to apologize. I think she should be apologetic as well for discounting my opinion because of my age and saying what she said.

I don't know where she is, they should have told me before she left to go back home.

119 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:13:14am

re: #84 rawmuse

Francis Ford Coppola owns a couple of resorts in Belize. Apparently he got into the business when he needed jungle locations and lodging for Apocalypse Now. (I thought that was shot in the Philippines?)

120 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:13:19am
121 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:14:37am

re: #117 sparrowlake

Old stock Anglo is a quickly shrinking minority and their culture is quickly receding before the endless non-European waves of immigrants.

Yes, very true. The Conservatives are overtaking the Liberals' popularity with this new group by a lot of careful focusing and fine-tuning of the message.

122 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:16:05am

re: #116 rawmuse

I happen to love "The Girl From Ipanema" esp. the Getz version.

Me too. Getz/Gilberto.

123 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:16:07am

re: #108 TheMatrix31

I told you: tell her you've changed your mind about Obama because he's so committed to standing up to Russia, he's pledged huge military aid packages to Turkey and Azerbaijan -- and now you're behind him 100 percent.

124 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:17:24am

re: #123 stuiec

Heh!

125 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:18:00am

re: #123 stuiec

I told you: tell her you've changed your mind about Obama because he's so committed to standing up to Russia, he's pledged huge military aid packages to Turkey and Azerbaijan -- and now you're behind him 100 percent.

LOL. Might as well. It's not like she knows anything.

126 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:19:05am

re: #116 rawmuse

I happen to love "The Girl From Ipanema" esp. the Getz version.

Try the Sergio Mendes.

127 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:22:21am

re: #125 TheMatrix31

I am sure she knows that any friend of the Turks and Azeris is no friend of the Armenians.

128 stuiec  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:23:11am

re: #122 Moe Katz

Astrud Gilberto has such a wonderful, unusual voice.

129 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:23:59am

obama youth parade

[Link: tubervision.com...]

and the after party ......

[Link: tubervision.com...]

I hope they show this much enthusiasm in going to the polls ....

130 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:24:10am

re: #126 sparrowlake

You are talkin' my lingo there. I am hip to all things Brazil, since the first recordings.

131 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:26:13am

re: #128 stuiec

Astrud Gilberto has such a wonderful, unusual voice.

Here's an example of revival bossa nova, with Bebel Gilberto, the daughter of Joao.

132 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:27:38am

Oops forgot the link

133 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:27:51am

re: #119 stuiec

Most of it was shot in the Phillipines, yes.

134 Ledger1  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:28:14am

Iowahawk on the nutroots disgraceful behavior:

[Picture of C*nt Couple at rally]

Hi undecided voters! Yes, we know what you're probably thinking: "hey, it's those two smirking hipster *ssholes in the 'Sarah Palin Is a C---' t shirts." We also realize that you probably find our brand of narcissistic street theater loathsome and tedious… No rational human being could be blamed for wanting us to just shut the f*ck up, finish our bottled water, and go away. Luckily, there's an easy way you can make that happen: vote for Barack Obama.

We know what you're thinking -- "that sounds awesome, but what about the angry right wingers? Won't they suddenly start storming congressional hearings and vandalizing military recruiting stations? Won't they start producing Obama assassination fantasy plays at the local college?" Don't worry, as members of the incoming Administration, we will identify any potential troublemakers and prosecute them to the full extent of President Obama's new civility laws. And with the re-establishment of the Fairness Doctrine, you won't have to worry about accidentally tuning into right wing hate radio.

Vote or Obama or else

135 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:28:29am

ggt doesn't know what he's missing.

136 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:30:42am

re: #70 Sharmuta

Why did he pay them $800,000 then?

137 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:30:51am

re: #134 Ledger1

heh, I like the last line. "And like the computer guy says, It's not a bug it's a feature."

/had to laugh or I would have cried.

138 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:31:34am

Bebel and Joao Gilberto

139 gmsc  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:31:43am

More economic knowledge and wisdom can be found in this 8 minute Warner Brothers cartoon than can be found in 2 years of Obama's campaigning: Yankee Dood It

140 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:32:35am

re: #136 MrSnuggles

Why did he pay them $800,000 then?

Damn fine question, MrSnuggles.

Chances of that question being asked at the debate- 0%.

141 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:32:45am
142 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:33:03am

Bebel and Joao Gilberto.

143 neocon hippie  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:33:40am

re: #129 JacksonTn

Where was this?

144 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:35:02am

Now playing on board the 127th Emperor Hetto*

Irodori-Kodo
(Taiko drums, if this doesn't get your pulse rate up you are probably already dead or, worse, a metrosexual.)

*Bannership of the Lizard invasion fleet, see World War by Harry Turtledove.

145 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:35:25am

re: #108 TheMatrix31

My grandmother-in-law is a nutjob anti-bush hater that goes on long endless rants, everyone just ignores her. I SOOOOOOO Want to say something but my wife would kill me.

146 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:39:32am

Blame it on the Bossa Nova!
Good night folks.

147 Zimriel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:40:47am

Hmm. The "old stock" in Canada really depends on which province.

Saskatchewan took in Scandis (/ace) and so is more collectivist. However it is also very small.

Alberta took in Scots-Irish. I've heard some wags call it "North Texas".

148 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:42:00am

Interesting little story- at least I think so.

Two weeks ago, two of my big bosses were sitting in one of their's office, and we're all chatting. Somehow politics comes up, and I go ahead and mention that I don't think 0bama will be friendly to business. Well- one boss was nodding his head, listening. The other seemed put off- didn't look at me, and overall gave me an 0bama-supporting vibe.

Well- yesterday, I run into him and he was all, "Hi, Shar! (work chit-chat) Have a great day, Shar!". I think 0bama lost my boss' vote with the business tax. Heh.

149 pegcity  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:43:02am

re: #147 Zimriel

Here in manitoba most european descendents are Ukranian

150 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:43:43am

re: #139 gmsc

There's another one that explains investing in the stock market as well. Elmer Fudd and Sylvester are in it. Slyvester has a lot of money from an estate and is trying to get it to spend with his friends. Wish I could remember the name of it.

151 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:44:27am

re: #143 neocon hippie

Where was this?

I am assuming the first two are from Seattle as the one below is ...... which is totally child abuse ........

152 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:46:40am

re: #147 Zimriel

Hmm. The "old stock" in Canada really depends on which province.

Saskatchewan took in Scandis (/ace) and so is more collectivist. However it is also very small.

Alberta took in Scots-Irish. I've heard some wags call it "North Texas".

Yup, it's where I live and it could be seen as that for sure. There are a good number of Ukrainians here as well especially past Edmonton going north. Although, our BBQ sucks in comparison.

153 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:57:29am

I really hate this election ......... the Obama kids videos have done it for me ....

154 gmsc  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 12:57:33am

re: #150 BlueCanuck

There's another one that explains investing in the stock market as well. Elmer Fudd and Sylvester are in it. Slyvester has a lot of money from an estate and is trying to get it to spend with his friends. Wish I could remember the name of it.

You mean Heir Conditioned?

155 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:02:30am

re: #154 gmsc

I think that's the one, unfortunately my browser won't load it.

/hate IE 6 and my employers. ;)

156 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:03:20am

re: #153 JacksonTn

I really hate this election ......... the Obama kids videos have done it for me ....

I hate the use of children in adult matters.
Parents Pimping Out Their Kids.
/or child abuse..........

157 JacksonTn  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:07:24am

In 2004 ACORN said your vote was worth ....... $ 2.00 ..... today with inflation ..... who knows .....

ACORN FRAUD IN 2004 FLORIDA - $2.00 PER :

Florida ACORN also registered thousands of felons — who, under Florida law, are ineligible to vote. They can, technically, apply for a restoration of civil rights; according to former Florida ACORN worker Mac Stuart — who has filed a whistleblower lawsuit against his ex-employer — ACORN exploited this hope in order to get felons to sign voter-registration cards. "We'd go up to them and say, 'Want your civil rights restored?' That's the pitch we were using. But those forms are not worth the paper they're printed on — there hasn't been any instance of clemency under the last two governors," Stuart claims. The forms became doubly worthless after Florida ACORN was through with them: "The restoration-of-civil-rights forms would go into the garbage," Stuart says. The voter-registration forms, however, were kept safe — as they were worth much more.

That's because each registration played a valuable part in Floridians For All's alleged pay-per-voter scheme. Stuart claims that Florida ACORN paid workers $2 for each voter registration they collected, and claims he has receipts to prove it. While it is permissible to pay an individual to register voters, "paying workers per registration," explains EPI spokesman Mike Burita, "is a felony in Florida — counted on a per-violation basis — so there could be thousands of crimes here."

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Good Night Lizards .......

158 gmsc  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:11:29am

re: #155 BlueCanuck

I think that's the one, unfortunately my browser won't load it.

/hate IE 6 and my employers. ;)

I'm pretty sure it is. Sylvester inherits a fortune, Elmer Fudd wants him to invest it properly, and the neighborhood alley cats are trying to get it (including "Charlie" who poses as a salesman for the "Hi Ho Silver Cleaning Company of Walla Walla, Washington"). Elmer explains the purpose and benefits of investing with a film, and Sylvester sneaks the money away and is ready to hand it over to the cats. The alley cats, who have also been watching the film, chastise Sylvester, and accuse him of trying to wreck the economy, so Sylvester hands over the money to be invested.

You know, I wonder how many Obama voters would be astounded by even the basic economic knowledge in Heir Conditioned and Yankee Dood It?

159 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:18:59am

Its too bad that cartoons these days don't have intelligence underlying their childishness. Where are kids supposed to learn about hard work, effort, and delayed gratification if they are taught nothing but "equality", "fairness", and instant gratification in public schools? They are taught NOT to work hard, that they can be lazy and finish last but still be given what everyone that works hard is given. And we wonder why Obama is so popular with the young people. Unfortunately I am one of them... and I still don't get it!

160 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:19:10am

Transcribing stuff is really, really annoying.

161 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:28:49am

re: #159 MrSnuggles

At the moment, we have to rely mostly on books to teach our kids our values. Hopefully, at some point, conservatives will put together an entertainment group to produce such things for our kids.

However- I would like to say that, imo, Pixar does produce quality films that show our underlying values. And there is the Veggie Tales videos. So, we're not completely without media.

162 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:37:35am

Quiet in here tonight. Or I just have nothing to say.

163 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:43:48am

As Campaign’s Intensity Peaks, Interest in Big 3's Evening News Continues to Wane

In the past two weeks, Big 3 evening newscast viewership has actually declined by 360,000, or 1.6%. What's more, in percentage terms, viewership among "The Demo" of ages 25-54 has declined even further (220,000, down 3.1%).

Heh™.

164 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:44:11am

Well, its better than nothing... BuzzSaw Monkey's "Gimme ACORN!"

MP3, for your downloading pleasure, sending it to Libs and Dhimmocrats everywhere!

165 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:47:16am

Obama has landed, not a ufo, but another prime endorsement!

Niburu endorses Obama

The following is a transmission channeled through Commander August Stahr from Commander Ashtar on 9.30.08 explaining how the “desire for sightings” has triggered the Planetary Shift you have all been waiting for.
*snip*
How can this be? True change comes from within and the “change of guard” on the inner levels is complete. Each person will be guided in new directions for the betterment of themselves and mankind as it was always meant to be. This time in the Earth’s history will be remembered as Earth’s wake up call, the decision point for moving in a new direction which will bring about changes for the better in all areas of your life. Barack Obama is the right man for this moment in Earth’s history. He will be elected to the U.S. Presidency and he will go on to two terms which will fully anchor in the new direction the U.S. and the World will embark upon. (emphasis added)

166 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:49:37am

re: #162 BlueCanuck

Quiet in here tonight. Or I just have nothing to say.

What? Are we here to amuse you, or somethin'?

/language warning

167 Mr Krabs  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:50:08am

I can't vote, but I just placed a sizeable bet on McCain, odds 6:1. While the media writes Mac off, I'm hoping Obamas obvious corruption will finish him off instead. I have a flat-screen TV riding on your election. You on the other hand have a little more at stake, methinks. Good luck.

168 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:52:56am

re: #166 Sharmuta

heh, I am all tapped out of funny today. :)

/real shame too, have to caption a pic for the GF's dog.

169 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:55:59am

re: #168 BlueCanuck

The dog asked you to caption a pic?

170 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:57:04am

re: #169 Sharmuta

The dog asked you to caption a pic?

Ummm, looks like I am all out of grammer too. *heh*

171 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 1:57:25am

re: #167 Mr Krabs

I can't vote

Obviously you've never met any of the ACORN operatives.

172 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:00:00am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet -------------------->
Help yourselves!

173 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:00:11am

w00t! :-)

174 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:00:47am

re: #172 littleoldlady

W000tttt!111! That's the second time this week littleoldlady. Congrats and thanks for the very timely fruitcup.

175 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:01:06am

How do you do it, littleoldlady?

176 Mr Krabs  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:02:17am

re: #171 Fenway_Nation
THAT good are they?

177 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:03:35am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Fenway! :-)

I am having a "discussion" with a "friend" that's elevating my blood pressure. That's the trick.

178 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:05:27am

I severely regret that food is my "comfort thing".

179 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:06:05am

I played Mad Libs online! Here's what I got:

Ladies and gentlemen, on this ducky occasion, it is a privilege to address such a/an hairy-looking group of shoes. I can tell from your smiling forks that you will support my sweet program in the coming election. I promise that, if elected, there will be a/an plant in every leash and two balls in every garage. I want to warn you against my curly opponent, Mr. BlueCanuck. This man is nothing but a/an crazy mug. He has a/an pink character and is working song in glove with the criminal element. If elected, I promise to eliminate vice. I will keep the ears in the public till. I promise you fabulous government, green taxes, and special schools.

I chose Mad Libs for President.

180 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:07:39am

re: #179 Sharmuta

That almost made sense. Think I need either more coffee, more alcohol, or sleep.

181 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:09:52am

re: #179 Sharmuta

I played Mad Libs online! Here's what I got:

I chose Mad Libs for President.

I have no idea why some things just DONT load, whether I try them in FF or IE. What kind of plugin do I need to run that thing?

182 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:19am

re: #175 Fenway_Nation

How do you do it, littleoldlady?

it's the drugs.................

/white smoke

183 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:19am

re: #180 BlueCanuck

As my opponent in this election, I demand you provide a Mad Lib or suffer the wrath of the electorate!

184 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:26am

re: #179 Sharmuta

Here's what I got just clicking sorta randomly

/okay what ever word tickled my fancy.

Ladies and gentlemen, on this gigantic occasion, it is a privilege to address such a/an spotty-looking group of cameras. I can tell from your smiling rocks that you will support my ordinary program in the coming election. I promise that, if elected, there will be a/an ape in every bed and two suitcases in every garage. I want to warn you against my prickly opponent, Mr. Nick. This man is nothing but a/an wide-eyed wood. He has a/an freezing character and is working statue in glove with the criminal element. If elected, I promise to eliminate vice. I will keep the mosquitoes in the public till. I promise you substantial government, expensive taxes, and hollow schools.

185 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:10:52am

re: #181 TheMatrix31

I do not know, Hon.

186 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:11:12am

re: #182 redc1c4

That too.

red! :-)

187 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:11:27am

re: #178 TheMatrix31

I severely regret that food is my "comfort thing".

try ethanol..... if nothing else, it'll make food look good.

188 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:13:11am

re: #184 BlueCanuck

Looks like they only have one game for President. Bummer- we could have some real fun with that.

189 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:14:02am

re: #180 BlueCanuck

That almost made sense. Think I need either more coffee, more alcohol, or sleep.

my vote is for ETOH....

the others can wait. %-)

190 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:14:38am

re: #188 Sharmuta

Yes a lot of hillarity could ensue with some of the changes to speeches you could make.

191 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:14:52am

re: #187 redc1c4

try ethanol..... if nothing else, it'll make food look good.

Heh, ironically, I just pokished off a whole bowl of popCORN.

192 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:15:27am

re: #191 TheMatrix31

Heh, ironically, I just pokished off a whole bowl of popCORN.

polished*

193 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:16:29am

re: #192 TheMatrix31

polished*

and what did you sprinkle on it?

194 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:17:55am

re: #193 redc1c4

and what did you sprinkle on it?

Whatever it was, it probably wasn't coke, since Barack Obama already nationalized the cocaine industry.

195 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:22:11am

POLITICAL SPEECH

Ladies and gentlemen, on this racist occasion, it is a privilege to address such a/an sexist-looking group of bigots. I can tell from your smiling islamophobes that you will support my misogynistic program in the coming election. I promise that, if elected, there will be a/an earmark in every ACORN and two limits in every garage. I want to warn you against my red opponent, Mr. ThatGuy. This man is nothing but a/an marxist paygrade. He has a/an gafftastic character and is working Fruitcup in glove with the criminal element. If elected, I promise to eliminate vice. I will keep the communists in the public till. I promise you yellow government, punative taxes, and fascist schools.

Heh.

196 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:22:18am

re: #194 TheMatrix31

Whatever it was, it probably wasn't coke, since Barack Obama already nationalized the cocaine industry.

/snort!

(if you can't beat'em, join'em! %-)

197 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:24:07am

re: #196 redc1c4

Bad redc! BAD KITTY!

198 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:29:28am

re: #197 Karridine

Bad redc! BAD KITTY!

ain't nuthin but the dawg in me.....

199 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:30:13am

Good morning folks.

Canadian election results are in and Stephen Harper's Conservatives have won a minority gov't, which is what they had before the election. Harper was hoping for a majority, but will have to make do with a somewhat stronger minority position. Considering the economy mess would tend to hurt the incumbant, this has to be seen as a modest success for Harper.

The Liberals were the big losers, which means Stephane Dion is toast. He basically sucked on the campaign trail. Dion has been described as "Al Gore, but without the macho charisma". Ouch.

NDP leader Jack Layton, who was accurately described as "alert as a chihauhau at the mail slot", managed to hold on as the 3rd party, but no better.

The Greens got more votes but no seats. The Bloc took 50 seats in Quebec, increasing their base.

House of Commons seats will look like this:

CON 143
LIB 76
BQ 50
NDP 37
IND 2

Which means no 2 opposition parties will have enough votes to block the Conservatives. The chances of getting the 3 opposition parties to agree on anything are next to nil. This means Harper will have an effective, if not absolute, majority gov't.

200 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:30:48am

re: #6 Macker

Yep: Here are the totals:

Conservatives: 141 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 143
Liberals: 74 Elected, 3 Leading. Total: 77
Bloc Québécois: 48 Elected, 1 Leading. Total: 49
New Democratic Party: 35 Elected, 2 Leading. Total: 37
Independent: 2 Elected, 0 Leading. Total: 2

Grits Lost Big Time! Harper gets a stronger minority government.

Macker -

The "Grit" leader had to be the worst ever. He made former PM Martin look like Sir Winston by comparison. Noticed that Newmarket-Aurora reverted to Tory with Belinda Stronach sitting this election out. All in all a successful evening for PM Harper. Methinks that when the history is written, PM Harper will be for Canada as Reagan was for the US.

-S-

201 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:32:01am

Bow-wow-yippee-yo-yippee-yay!

Some song, RedC! :D

202 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:32:38am

re: #191 TheMatrix31

Heh, ironically, I just pokished off a whole bowl of popCORN.

Now, that's kinky.

203 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:33:17am

re: #199 Kenneth

I wonder if Bob Rae will run for the leadership spot again. If he does, the next election will put Ontario solidly in the Conservative camp.

204 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:34:10am

re: #202 MandyManners

Now, that's kinky.

Hey, I'm sick of this homework, it's late and I'm the only one up.....things happen.

205 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:34:38am

re: #202 MandyManners

Now, that's kinky.

we'll take your word for it......

/white smoke

206 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:34:45am

re: #202 MandyManners

Now, that's kinky.

Is that the Popcorn-Hamster-Valvoline perversion, Mandy?
/I mean, I've HEARD people talking...

207 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:35:21am

re: #204 TheMatrix31

Hey, I'm sick of this homework, it's late and I'm the only one up.....things happen.

what are you studying?

208 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:37:07am

re: #172 littleoldlady

Thanks much Lil' one...

Breaking my lurking rule to gloat over my ticket to see John McCain on Thursday out here in Chester County PA. I can walk ('bout 1.5 miles) to the venue, thinking about leaving the car at home.

209 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:38:09am

I'm pleased to see in my riding, the moron vote was split with the Radical Marijuana Party getting almost twice the votes (208) as the Marxist-Leninists (110). One way to look at that is that loony dope-heads are more mainstream than idiot Commies.

210 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:39:01am

re: #207 redc1c4

what are you studying?

I have to transcribe a 60 second chunk of conversation, complete with funky notations to reflect specifics within the word structure and pronunciation.

It's one of the most tedious things I've ever had to do my schooling history.

211 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:39:18am

re: #209 Kenneth

Which riding is that? Sounds like a Toronto one to me.

212 rightwinger3  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:39:50am

re: #209 Kenneth

I'm pleased to see in my riding, the moron vote was split with the Radical Marijuana Party getting almost twice the votes (208) as the Marxist-Leninists (110). One way to look at that is that loony dope-heads are more mainstream than idiot Commies.

That's good news, I would have been upset if it had been the other way around.

213 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:40:46am

re: #203 BlueCanuck

I believe the campaign to replace Dion began around 1:30 AM. Rae, Iggy, Kennedy & Dryden are all sharpening knives this morning. Justin Trudeau is also rumoured to be interested. Dion is toast.

214 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:40:55am

re: #208 Stonemason

STONEMASON! :-)

We saw McCain and Palin in Media. (Be prepared for a lot of loony-toon Obamatons on the sidelines.)

They bussed us over from Springfield Mall where we parked.

215 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:41:34am

re: #210 TheMatrix31

I have to transcribe a 60 second chunk of conversation, complete with funky notations to reflect specifics within the word structure and pronunciation.

It's one of the most tedious things I've ever had to do my schooling history.

sucks to be you.......

WTF are you studying for?

216 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:41:53am

I must say, it was a pretty good day yesterday, with Harper winning in Canada and Obama forced to throw not one, but two, of his staunchest supporters, Jesse Jackson and ACORN, under the bus.

I wonder what today will hold? A Hellfire through Osama's beard? We can hope.

217 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:42:10am

re: #211 BlueCanuck

Oh yes, I'm in Liberal Toronto. Gerard Kennedy took the riding for the Liberals, defeating the NDP incumbant.

218 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:42:25am

Stonemason,

How are the lawn signs running in your neighborhood? I'm seeing A LOT more McCain signs this time than Kerry last time.

219 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:44:06am

re: #210 TheMatrix31

Should be a 1/2-hour task at most, hey?

/C'mon, Mate Tricks, get it DONE and OVER WITH! :D

220 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:45:47am

re: #217 Kenneth

Nice area. Glad to see a NDPer lose that one. Maybe in a couple more elections that riding will go all the way to the right. ;)

221 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:49:32am

re: #215 redc1c4

sucks to be you.......

WTF are you studying for?

It's this class called "Conversational Analysis" where we literally break down and analyze conversations. Structures, expectations, etc. I've never seen a subject so pointless yet so oddly relevant.

re: #219 Karridine

Should be a 1/2-hour task at most, hey?

/C'mon, Mate Tricks, get it DONE and OVER WITH! :D

You wish 1/2 hour. I've had to listen to this audio over, and over, and over, and over again. I've been working on it for about 2 and a half hours now. I The guy said it should take about 3.

222 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:49:39am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

AND- the networks are still losing ratings. Heehee.

223 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:51:25am

re: #214 littleoldlady

I am looking forward to the looney toons, I know most of them around here!

224 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:51:35am

Wait, I must have missed him throwing our beloved Jesse Jackson under the bus.

225 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:51:45am

I live north of New York City by about 80 miles. Of course Obama will take NY, but I thought it surprising that I see more McCain signs than Obama.

226 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:52:03am

re: #218 littleoldlady

Stonemason,

How are the lawn signs running in your neighborhood? I'm seeing A LOT more McCain signs this time than Kerry last time.

what's interesting is how few Obanal signs there are in my hood..... could be they are just lazy, as there are lots of stickers on cars, but they could be from anywhere.

i haven't asked my associate who told me last summer that Shrillery was our next President, and that i should get used to it what he thinks/is voting for....... dumb as he is, the answer is likely Obanal. %-)

227 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:53:40am

re: #218 littleoldlady

We are about fifty/fifty, but there have been a rash of thefts. I have replaced mine twice.

My neck of the woods is mostly Republican, but they are not active so the active Democrats seem to outnumber the passive Republicans. I can't begin to count the number of friends that refused my offer of signs.

228 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:53:41am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

You wish 1/2 hour. I've had to listen to this audio over, and over, and over, and over again. I've been working on it for about 2 and a half hours now. I The guy said it should take about 3.

you thinking of going Intel later?

sounds like fun!

/white smoke

229 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:54:56am

Could someone explain white smoke to me?

230 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:55:01am

From Thomas Ayers' Wiki page:

Thomas G. Ayers is the father of William Charles "Bill" Ayers (born 26 December 1944), an American elementary education theorist and leading 1960s domestic terrorist.

231 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:55:09am

re: #228 redc1c4

you thinking of going Intel later?

sounds like fun!

/white smoke

Not at all. It's just a class that I was basically torpedoed into taking, considering all the Poli Sci classes were filled by the time it was my turn (incoming transfers) to register.

232 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:56:30am

re: #227 Stonemason

We are about fifty/fifty, but there have been a rash of thefts. I have replaced mine twice.

My neck of the woods is mostly Republican, but they are not active so the active Democrats seem to outnumber the passive Republicans. I can't begin to count the number of friends that refused my offer of signs.

mine is moonbat territory:
wife won't let me put one up: she doesn't want to "upset" the neighbors......
(more worried about vandalism, truth be known.)

/i say "fuck'em!"

233 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:56:43am

re: #227 Stonemason

We are about fifty/fifty, but there have been a rash of thefts. I have replaced mine twice.

My neck of the woods is mostly Republican, but they are not active so the active Democrats seem to outnumber the passive Republicans. I can't begin to count the number of friends that refused my offer of signs.

Mix a little concrete and put it into the itty-bitty holes?

234 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:57:20am

re: #231 TheMatrix31

Not at all. It's just a class that I was basically torpedoed into taking, considering all the Poli Sci classes were filled by the time it was my turn (incoming transfers) to register.

Good Lord! You mean you went to more than one college? Could be a detriment when you run for political office.

235 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:58:12am

re: #229 tappin52

Could someone explain white smoke to me?

it's a hold over from my Usenet days on AFM/UMA:

Smoke and Pyro

White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger


Some Examples:

Red says something smart and instead of "ducking," pops white smoke and disengages.

Anyone needing assistance might designate a post (or a thread in the subject line) with yellow smoke.

Prior to typing a sarcastic remark, "pop purple smoke." When removing tounge from cheek, send up a White Star Cluster.

Green star clusters would probaly be most effective for the person on SGT Casey's duty roster with an addition to a subject line.

Yellow star clusters used to designate a friendly under fire or to initiate compromise under a misunderstanding.

Red star custer, any kind of warning.

236 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:58:37am

re: #232 redc1c4

My wife is the same way, worried about the vandalism. We are very close to a not-so-nice area of most likely Obama supporters and Illegal Immigrants. She won't let me put up the Google: Obama/Ayers sign I was going to make!

237 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:59:17am

re: #220 BlueCanuck

Gerard Kennedy is a very skilled polical operator and plans to be around for a long time. If the Tories ever want to win this riding they will have to decide to run a plausable candidate. The last 3 times they ran nobodies & finished in a distant 3rd place.

238 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 2:59:19am

re: #233 MandyManners

Thought about it, considering the nick

239 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:01:04am

re: #226 redc1c4

The lawn signs serve as my empirical polling. :-)

re: #227 Stonemason

I was out and about these past couple of weeks:

Haverford - mostly Obama signs. (No surprise there. Probably the same in Swarthmore & Bryn Mawr.)
Havertown - mostly Obama
Lower Merion - 50/50
Villanova - mostly McCain
My neighborhood - very few signs. ;-)

Boy, I'd sure like to get rid of Sestak!

240 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:01:23am

re: #233 MandyManners

I had to explain to my 14 year old why we couldn't just electrify 'em, although the idea was kinda...nevermind.

241 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:01:32am

re: #235 redc1c4
Thanks, I now have some studying to do.

242 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:02:04am

re: #236 Stonemason

My wife is the same way, worried about the vandalism. We are very close to a not-so-nice area of most likely Obama supporters and Illegal Immigrants. She won't let me put up the Google: Obama/Ayers sign I was going to make!

not an issue here.... we just won't get invited to the opening night cast party....or be on the back stage list.

/not that we're going to be anyway. %-)

243 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:02:35am

re: #221 TheMatrix31

Well, Matrix, IF you're actually doing this, I suggest that you'll derive some new insights into English AND into the speakers' mindset/perceptual-set before you're finished, IF (big IF) you haven't already.

Its NOT a meaningless exercise, if you want to let the value ooze through...

244 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:03:16am

re: #239 littleoldlady

I was in Conshoken and Bala Cynwyd yesterday, all Obama. Heck, I was picking up free stones from a Craigslist add in my turck with the McCain/Palin sitcker at a house with an Obama sign. I thought the wife was going to say something but she just hopped into the Volvo and left.

245 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:04:45am

re: #244 Stonemason

PIMF Conshoken Should be Conshohoken

246 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:05:30am

re: #245 Stonemason

PIMF Conshoken Should be Conshohoken

Conshohocken. ;-)

247 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:05:47am

re: #234 tappin52

Good Lord! You mean you went to more than one college? Could be a detriment when you run for political office.

Yeah, God forbid I went to more than one college!

re: #243 Karridine

Well, Matrix, IF you're actually doing this, I suggest that you'll derive some new insights into English AND into the speakers' mindset/perceptual-set before you're finished, IF (big IF) you haven't already.

Its NOT a meaningless exercise, if you want to let the value ooze through...

Oh yeah, it's pretty interesting albeit very boring and tedious. I can see how it's extremely necessary.

248 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:06:09am

re: #237 Kenneth

Yeah, I was checking the results from that riding. Pretty pathetic for Conservatives overall. My riding eventually may get rid of Volpe in a year or so.

249 Stonemason  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:06:46am

re: #246 littleoldlady

Grrrr....and Turk is truck, now I know why I don't post.

back to work, have a great day.

250 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:07:59am

re: #249 Stonemason

GREAT seeing you!

/don't lurk so much...!

251 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:10:57am

re: #224 TheMatrix31

Wait, I must have missed him throwing our beloved Jesse Jackson under the bus.

Obama Camp Rejects Jackson's Claim That He Would Diminish 'Zionist' Influence

Barack Obama's campaign stepped in quickly Tuesday to distance itself from a claim by the Rev. Jesse Jackson that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.

The move was the latest chapter in what appears to be a protracted falling-out between the two Chicago figures -- each of whom represents a different age of political activism.

Jackson made the remarks to the World Policy Forum in France last week, according to The New York Post. The civil rights activist reportedly said that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose some of their influence with Obama in the White House, and that "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would come to a close.

Obama's campaign denied that assertion on Tuesday.

"Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. is not an adviser to the Obama campaign and is therefore in no position to interpret or share Barack Obama's views on Israel and foreign policy," Obama national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said in a statement.

"As he has made clear throughout his career and throughout this campaign, Barack Obama has a fundamental commitment to a strong U.S.-Israel relationship ... As president, he will ensure that Israel can defend itself from every threat it faces, stand with Israel in its quest for a secure peace with its neighbors, and use all elements of American power to end Iran's illicit nuclear program.

"No false charges can change Barack Obama's unshakeable commitment to Israel's security."

252 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:11:32am

Has BHO thrown Jackson under the bus? The campaign has said that Jackson is not a member of his campaign or advisor.

253 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:11:32am

todays brush with banality......

there i was, on the way home from dropping off a library book, "The Long Embrace" there was a flock of vultures across from the bowling alley.

i swung a u, and asked a bystander, who thought it was the Coonass bimbo.

i'll have to ask the neighbor for details, since it was their shop, or the one next to it, but i really don't GAF one way or the other....

254 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:12:10am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

GMTA.

255 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:13:07am

Good morning, Lizards.

Great news for the middle-aged and older among us...and the perfect excuse to surf the hours away:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

256 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:14:41am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

thus spake Morigi the Merciless........

funny how they jump and run every time the truth comes out.

257 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:15:05am

re: #255 scottishbuzzsaw

But not nearly as good for the butt! ;-)

'Morning, scottishbuzzsaw! :-)

258 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:15:24am

re: #216 Shiplord Kirel

I must say, it was a pretty good day yesterday, with Harper winning in Canada and Obama forced to throw not one, but two, of his staunchest supporters, Jesse Jackson and ACORN, under the bus.


/ becoming crowded under the bus,
and might require reservations in the future.

259 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:15:37am

re: #257 littleoldlady

LOL, lol!

260 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:16:01am

stop me if this has been posted before: Never Find Out

261 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:16:19am

re: #257 littleoldlady

But not nearly as good for the butt! ;-)

'Morning, scottishbuzzsaw! :-)

Oh, you are so right about that! Good morning, littleoldlady!

262 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:16:36am

Morning scottishbuzzsaw. How's things going?

263 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:17:15am

re: #247 TheMatrix31

No, NOT necessary, and yes, TEDIOUS...

But it CAN give you some insights into how peoples' perceptual set works, how their filters kick in, and how YOUR though-processes transpire...

Hey, if you GOTTA do it, make the most of the doing! Its YOUR life, Matrix! :D

264 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:17:20am

re: #262 BlueCanuck

Morning scottishbuzzsaw. How's things going?

Very well, thank you (except for the effect LOL describes)...how are you today?

265 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:18:14am

Good morning, Scotti. Been missing you lately.

266 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:18:18am

re: #264 scottishbuzzsaw

doing alright. mind is in vacation mode already.

/otherwise I don't give a rat's ass about work at the moment. :)

267 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:18:34am

re: #251 Shiplord Kirel

Barack Obama's campaign stepped in quickly Tuesday to distance itself from a claim by the Rev. Jesse Jackson that "Zionists" would lose clout under an Obama administration.


/hate to be on Obama's campaign.

They probably get calls at 3 in the morning.

268 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:19:32am

re: #265 Sharmuta

Good morning, Scotti. Been missing you lately.

Good morning, Shar...my schedule has been in flux...I've missed meeting up with you in the wee hours...how have you been?

269 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:20:53am

Good morning, Lizards!

270 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:00am

re: #263 Karridine

No, NOT necessary, and yes, TEDIOUS...

But it CAN give you some insights into how peoples' perceptual set works, how their filters kick in, and how YOUR though-processes transpire...

Hey, if you GOTTA do it, make the most of the doing! Its YOUR life, Matrix! :D

Like you, I prefer capitalizing my words and using "..." in order to make my points. Too bad that doesn't fly in the assignment, haha.

271 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:22am

re: #266 BlueCanuck

doing alright. mind is in vacation mode already.

/otherwise I don't give a rat's ass about work at the moment. :)

Your vacation is coming soon?

272 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:30am

re: #268 scottishbuzzsaw

I'm pretty good, Scotti.

273 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:21:59am

Good morning, goddess. How did rehearsal go?

274 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:22:17am

time for more drugs and a few hours sleep on the sofa.....

it'll be nice when i can breathe again.

/CS canisters and white smoke...... (that'll clear your sinuses! $-)

275 rightside  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:22:23am

Morning Lizards!

276 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:23:01am

re: #269 goddessoftheclassroom
Morning goddess.
re: #271 scottishbuzzsaw

Yep, one more shift to go and I am outta here for a week. Going to try and find a way to get some posts in.

277 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:24:00am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess.
re: #271 scottishbuzzsaw

Yep, one more shift to go and I am outta here for a week. Going to try and find a way to get some posts in.

use the GF's 'puter?

278 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:25:12am

re: #248 BlueCanuck

Hey, maybe one day Volpe will be found stuffed in the truck of a car left in a lot at Pearson airport like his cousin was. Try to stay optimistic.

279 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:25:34am

re: #272 Sharmuta

I'm pretty good, Scotti.

{Sharmuta} I don't know why, considering I can't hear your voice, but you sound a bit tired...:>)

280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:25:36am

Why am I up?

281 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:26:07am

re: #277 redc1c4

Alas she's stuck here in the T dot for Fashion week. And I will be far away.

282 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:26:31am

re: #279 scottishbuzzsaw

Eeyores are draining.

283 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:26:48am

re: #276 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess.
re: #271 scottishbuzzsaw

Yep, one more shift to go and I am outta here for a week. Going to try and find a way to get some posts in.

That's great! Will you be traveling?

284 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:27:03am

I'm feeling a great deal more optimistic about the election now. Obama's vile associations are starting to hurt despite the best efforts of goebbelist media to cover for him.
The drop in fuel costs will also be crucial, since this is an immediate and personal issue for virtually the entire electorate.

A lot will depend on how McCain does in the debate tonight, but he has a history of near-miraculous comebacks from seemingly hopeless situations, starting with the Forrestal fire, through the purgatory of communist captivity, and continuing right up to the primary campaign this year.

285 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:27:13am

re: #273 Sharmuta

Good morning, goddess. How did rehearsal go?

{Sharmuta}

Meh, we accomplished something that needed to be done, but not everything I wanted to. They're junior high kids, and they don't yet have the discipline to focus to the extent I want.

286 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:28:04am

re: #280 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why am I up?

Because you're not down?

287 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:28:14am

re: #282 Sharmuta

Eeyores are draining.

Oh, sweetie, you have done so much to rally us day in and day out...I think we should start a collection and send you on a vacation after McCain/Palin win...

288 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:28:17am

re: #285 goddessoftheclassroom

{Sharmuta}

Meh, we accomplished something that needed to be done, but not everything I wanted to. They're junior high kids, and they don't yet have the discipline to focus to the extent I want.

We'll have to get Dear Leader to motivate them! ;)

289 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:29:13am

re: #287 scottishbuzzsaw

You'll have to twist my arm. OW! Okay- that's enough. ;)

290 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:29:31am

Obama revs up the bus... but ACORN is not quite under it.

291 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:29:36am

re: #283 scottishbuzzsaw

Yes ma'am. Off to British Columbia for a few days and then back to spend time with friends and family.

292 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:31:48am

re: #270 TheMatrix31

Well, when yr finished, drop me an email (tomorrow, or next Juvember) summarizing how it all came together...

/or a 10 word summary of "What I Learned at Transcription Sensitivity Training Camp"

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:32:20am

re: #286 MandyManners

Purty funny what Jesse said, ain't it. Just heard it this morning.

I'll never understand Jewish support of Democratic tickets.

294 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:34:43am

re: #291 BlueCanuck

Yes ma'am. Off to British Columbia for a few days and then back to spend time with friends and family.

Sounds wonderful...enjoy!

295 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:00am

Don't know if anyone has seen this guy's videos on Youtube yet, but he is fairly humorous. OldGrumpyGuy interviews Barack Obama.

296 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:29am

If McCain actually pulls it out, the wailing and gnashing of teeth among our enemies and their shills will be awesome to behold, from the NYT offices to the caves of Afghanistan and the whorehouses of Amsterdam.

"What is best in life?"
Conan Lizardoid: "To crush your enemies, the moonbats, to see them their Priuses and Volvos driven to the repo lot before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women media."

297 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:44am

re: #282 Sharmuta

Eeyores are draining.

Nuh. You should try talking to Obamtrons.

/Blood Pressure Spikes 'R Us

298 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:35:59am

Casey Anthony's finally been charged in the murder of Caylee.

299 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:37:29am

re: #292 Karridine

Well, when yr finished, drop me an email (tomorrow, or next Juvember) summarizing how it all came together...

/or a 10 word summary of "What I Learned at Transcription Sensitivity Training Camp"

I'm JUST about done, putting some finishing touches on it. It came out pretty well, I think. They said they weren't going to be grading too harshly on it. It's our first assignment in the class, so I don't think they're expecting much. Thanks for the concern! Tomorrow night, I'll have another assignment to work on due for Thursday. THAT one's gonna be a bitch.

300 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:37:53am

Morning all.
The Happy Road Warrior here.
I just love business travel.
Any odds on whether McCain will have what it takes tonight?

301 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:38:02am

re: #297 littleoldlady

Nuh. You should try talking to Obamtrons.

/Blood Pressure Spikes 'R Us

I'm related to them.

/Told one of them to enjoy unemployment and putting all their remaining money in their gas tank.

302 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:39:04am

re: #296 Shiplord Kirel

If McCain actually pulls it out, the wailing and gnashing of teeth among our enemies and their shills will be awesome to behold, from the NYT offices to the caves of Afghanistan and the whorehouses of Amsterdam

the dumpsters of Berkley...

Feel free to add on folks...

303 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:39:41am

re: #300 jim in virginia

Morning all.
The Happy Road Warrior here.
I just love business travel.
Any odds on whether McCain will have what it takes tonight?

He seemed pretty fired up on the stump yesterday. He looked confident.

304 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:39:52am

I was really glad to see this, as it saves me the trouble of cancelling my subscription.

I'm rethinking my up to now live-and-let-live philosophy. I've not let someone's politics affect whether or not I use their services or products.

From now on, I'm going to give much greater weight to just how much moonbattishness is involved in my life.

So, no more Levis (not a real problem, since they don't make them incountry anymore). No more Google. There'll be lots more.

A shame, really. But why enrich those who wish me and my country harm?

I'm still pondering the personal relationships. Got some really good Democrat friends I'd miss.

305 scratch  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:41:19am

re: #26 TheMatrix31

What's the theme of tomorrow's debate?

"Barrack Obama: Leadership for a New Generation."

306 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:41:57am

re: #301 Sharmuta

I'm related to them.

/Told one of them to enjoy unemployment and putting all their remaining money in their gas tank.

I've had some small success sending out that Wall Street Journal article explaining what "95% of workers will get a tax break" means, with the subject line, "Thank you in advance for supporting me for the next few years!"

307 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:42:10am

They're talking on F&F about McCain bringing up Ayers in the debate. Good stuff, however, why are they letting everyone KNOW about it?!

308 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:42:33am

re: #300 jim in virginia


Any odds on whether McCain will have what it takes tonight?

I think he will reach deep and pull out some of whatever it is that has gotten him through so many desperate scrapes in the past.

309 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:42:47am

{My Rove!}

Are you at least some place fun?

310 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:43:10am

re: #304 razorbacker
I know how you feel. I heard a radio ad yesterday. Ralph Stanley endorsed Barry. I love his music but not sure I want to pay him for it now.
And piracy is just wrong.

311 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:43:17am

I missed Joe Plumber on Cavuto.

312 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:44:09am

re: #301 Sharmuta

I'm related to them.

*sigh* Me too...

313 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:44:51am

re: #304 razorbacker

Why punish the magazine? Buckley's gone.

BTW, are there any jeans made in the U.S.?

314 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:45:05am

re: #309 littleoldlady
Visiting our office in Newport News. Not a bad place to be, considering I get paid for it.
How's things with you? What's up with MNT?

315 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:45:35am

Okay check out this guy in the WSJ who says Bill Ayers is a model citizen. he says he knows Ayers now for 10 years and he is just swell. i'm not kidding. Here is the email I sent him. I encourage everyone to give him your comments as well.

"Ayers a model citizen? what planet are you from? i'm sure there are people who would say the same about Osama bin Laden, or would have said the same about Timothy McVeigh.
Maybe in your circles this kind of person is a "model citizen", but where I come from we expect that the president of the US might actually have just a bit sharper sense of right and wrong, and discriminate a bit more in his relationships. Nobody cares about people like you, or the other professors who might want to rub shoulders with the guy. Don't try to turn it into a mass indictment of everyone.

"Deep down Bill Ayers hates what this country stands for, and the fact that Barack Obama doesn't get that or would turn a blind eye to it makes him unfit to be POTUS."

316 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:46:06am

re: #310 jim in virginia

I know how you feel. I heard a radio ad yesterday. Ralph Stanley endorsed Barry. I love his music but not sure I want to pay him for it now.
And piracy is just wrong.

If you'd like, I'll send you a letter of Marquis (I think that's how it's spelled)

You could look at it as the old style English pirates did whilst raiding the Spanish treasure ships.

Arrrgh, matey.

317 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:47:40am

re: #310 jim in virginia

And piracy is just wrong.

It's a respectable profession now. They have spokespeople and everything.

318 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:06am

re: #316 razorbacker

If you'd like, I'll send you a letter of Marquis (I think that's how it's spelled)

You could look at it as the old style English pirates did whilst raiding the Spanish treasure ships.

Arrrgh, matey.

Been hanging around loflyer a little too much lately? :)

/don't let realwest catch you, you might be keel hauled in fine British naval tradition.

319 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:24am

re: #314 jim in virginia

We're hanging in, thanks for asking. MNT (who turns 20 on Friday - ACK! - no more "T"!) is in the middle of taking midterms along with amoxicillin for ear and upper resperatory infections.

/should be interesting...
// [shudder!]

How're your girls?

320 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:27am

re: #313 MandyManners

Why punish the magazine? Buckley's gone.

BTW, are there any jeans made in the U.S.?

That's why I don't have to cancel.

And no, not that I know of. But Wrangler doesn't actively work against the Boy Scouts like Levi, and I kinda like the Scouts. Clean, brave, and thrifty. You know, like Obama.

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:34am

re: #311 MandyManners

I missed Joe Plumber on Cavuto.

I heard him interviewed yesterday. He was not bowled over by Obama. He said, "I am more afraid of him now that I have met him."

Funny, probably the same thing that Obama said to his people after meeting Joe Plumber.

322 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:48:48am

re: #306 littleoldlady

Have a link to that? It might work on one of my Aunties who is totally in the tank for 0bama, but hates her tax burden.

My other Auntie hasn't decided to vote for McCain yet, but she's not voting for 0bama.

323 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:49:33am

re: #307 TheMatrix31

Two possible explanations:

1. McCain is setting Obama up for a surprising new and damaging revelation about Ayers.

2. McCain is trying to calm nervous supporters by over-promising what little comment he actually maked about Ayers.

Obama has certainly worked up a plausable evasive maneuver. McCain's challenge is to throw him off guard and catch him with a new angle. The more angry & defensive Obama is the better McCain's chances are.

324 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:49:51am

re: #315 alien_mind

Yesterday Fox had on a guy named Singer with the same chazzerei. Teaches at Hofstra.

/yet another reason to be happy my kid left Hofstra after one semester.

325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:50:10am

Joe Plumber may be more important that ayers.

326 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:51:27am

re: #316 razorbacker

That's the spirit. Piracy is wrong. Internet privateering however...

Whenever something seems immoral or repugnant, you just need to relabel into a more appealing activity.

327 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:51:41am
328 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:52:04am

re: #320 razorbacker

That's why I don't have to cancel.

And no, not that I know of. But Wrangler doesn't actively work against the Boy Scouts like Levi, and I kinda like the Scouts. Clean, brave, and thrifty. You know, like Obama.

Sorry for my confusion regarding the cancellation.

What's up with Levis and the BSA?

329 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:52:06am

re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Joe Plumber may be more important that ayers.

Look how well running on raising taxes worked for Mondale.

330 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:52:17am

re: #327 littleoldlady

You ROCK!

331 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:53:30am

re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I heard him interviewed yesterday. He was not bowled over by Obama. He said, "I am more afraid of him now that I have met him."

Funny, probably the same thing that Obama said to his people after meeting Joe Plumber.

I wish McCain could get the Plumber to do an ad on the tax issue.

332 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:54:46am

re: #324 littleoldlady

Yesterday Fox had on a guy named Singer with the same chazzerei. Teaches at Hofstra.

/yet another reason to be happy my kid left Hofstra after one semester.

you got me with that one, had to look it up. yep!

333 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:55:06am

re: #326 Scion9

Whenever something seems immoral or repugnant, you just need to relabel into a more appealing activity.

I see... like Bill Clinton "mentoring" Monica? Or the Democrats corrupt subprime mortage fiasco was "helping underprivledged Americans share in the American dream"?

334 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:55:13am

re: #325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Joe Plumber may be more important that ayers.

People might be able to grasp money better than ideology. However, not being able to comprehend that Ayers is an American-hating bastard just escapes me.

335 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:10am

Talked to my buddy Walt yesterday evening and asked him how his work for Obama was going. He said it was a slam-dunk with his folks, as they all were going to vote for the fellow Black guy. I reminded him of the White mom, but he trumped me with the old 'one drop' thing.

He asked how many of my fellow honkies were going to vote Democrat in spite of it all, and I had to admit that I knew some who were going to sit this one out.

He said that was the real worry he had. Just how strong was the Demo vote going to be. We agreed that Obama would do really well with the liberal Ds, and of course had the Yellow Dogs sewn up, but conservative Democrats might stay away or go McCain.

He's not nearly as sure of this thing as the MSM is.

336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:41am

re: #334 MandyManners

People might be able to grasp money better than ideology. However, not being able to comprehend that Ayers is an American-hating bastard just escapes me.

Go figure.

337 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:56:52am

re: #331 MandyManners

I wish McCain could get the Plumber to do an ad on the tax issue.

Would it be perceived, then, that the guy was some sort of McCain plant or something?

338 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:57:19am

re: #329 Sharmuta

Look how well running on raising taxes worked for Mondale.

LOL!

Spreading the wealth is a noble endeavor as long as it's done voluntarily. I spread the wealth every day when I shop. A business owner spreads the wealth when she pays her employees, buys supplies, et cet..

339 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:57:19am

re: #330 Sharmuta

Ha. Not ME. I found it in the spinoff links.

/to which I have a serious addictionn ;-)

340 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:57:50am

re: #299 TheMatrix31

Hey, I'm pretty good at transcribing... can I help?

341 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:58:41am

re: #338 MandyManners

LOL!

Spreading the wealth is a noble endeavor as long as it's done voluntarily. I spread the wealth every day when I shop. A business owner spreads the wealth when she pays her employees, buys supplies, et cet..

Very well said...feeling better today, Mandy?

342 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:05am

re: #328 MandyManners

Sorry for my confusion regarding the cancellation.

What's up with Levis and the BSA?

It's old news. Levi got all bent out of shape at the Scouts reluctance to allow gay scoutmasters. It was a big thing out in SF.

343 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:29am

re: #331 MandyManners

See my #148. I think if 0bama just talks, people will catch on.

344 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:32am

re: #335 razorbacker

I don't know if the Yellow-Dog Democrats are sewn up. My mom and my sister are Yellow Dogs but, they are NOT voting for BHO, and I'm sure there are many out there just like them.

345 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 3:59:41am

re: #334 MandyManners

Maybe what they fail to comprehend about the Ayers issue is what is so wrong with hating America? Ultimately, they share his values, as does Obama.

346 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:00:13am

re: #336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Go figure.

As a people, Americans are pretty forgiving but, usually when the offender has expressed remorse.

347 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:00:56am

re: #337 TheMatrix31

Would it be perceived, then, that the guy was some sort of McCain plant or something?

BHO sought him out.

Oh, wait.

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

348 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:01:03am

re: #326 Scion9


Whenever something seems immoral or repugnant, you just need to relabel into a more appealing activity.

Well, situational ethics is probably the most useful thing I learned in college.

Allows me to do pretty much as I please, as I can always rationalize it somehow.

349 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:01:23am

re: #340 Karridine

Hey, I'm pretty good at transcribing... can I help?

Thanks, haha. Nah, actually the one due Thursday (or tomorrow, wherever you're located) is for a different class -- Data Analysis.

350 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:01:59am

re: #341 scottishbuzzsaw

Very well said...feeling better today, Mandy?

The sinuses are much better, thank you for asking. It's that time of year, with all that fall stuff floating in the air.

351 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:02:37am

re: #342 razorbacker

It's old news. Levi got all bent out of shape at the Scouts reluctance to allow gay scoutmasters. It was a big thing out in SF.

I thought there was something new going on.

352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:00am

re: #347 MandyManners

Does the "RYMB" appear anywhere but here? I don't look at other blogs. Did it originate here?

353 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:01am

Well, should make my farewells now for the night. Have a good day all and stay scaly.

354 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:35am

Got to run--love to all!

355 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:50am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

Well, should make my farewells now for the night. Have a good day all and stay scaly.

Have a good one yourself!

356 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:51am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

Bye, Canuck.

357 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:54am

the "0" Plumber Policy

Work hard, support the lazy, I'll decide who gets what.

Not going to go over at all.

358 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:03:54am

re: #344 MandyManners

I don't know if the Yellow-Dog Democrats are sewn up. My mom and my sister are Yellow Dogs but, they are NOT voting for BHO, and I'm sure there are many out there just like them.

Then by definition, they aren't Yellow Dogs ('cause they'd vote for an old yaller dawg long as he wus a Democrat).

359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:04:53am

re: #358 razorbacker

I think even yellow dogs even have a tipping point.

360 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:05:07am

re: #343 Sharmuta

See my #148. I think if 0bama just talks, people will catch on.

I usually don't engage in "McCain better say this" or "McCain should say that" but, I think McCain should nail BHO with the taxation issue, especially the small-business angle. And, he should nail BHO with the "spreading the wealth" quote.

361 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:05:27am

re: #298 MandyManners

Casey Anthony's finally been charged in the murder of Caylee.

I hope they can make their case. I have a two year old granddaughter and it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl, Caylee.

362 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:06:08am

re: #345 Kenneth

Maybe what they fail to comprehend about the Ayers issue is what is so wrong with hating America? Ultimately, they share his values, as does Obama.

I'm talking about people who DON'T hate America who are planning to vote for BHO out of sheer ignorance of what BHO stand for.

363 Scion9  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:07:45am

re: #361 tappin52

I hope they can make their case. I have a two year old granddaughter and it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl, Caylee.

Do they actually have any evidence? Did they find a body? I have a feeling they may botch this one.

364 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:08:11am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

Well, should make my farewells now for the night. Have a good day all and stay scaly.

'Night Blue. Or 'Morning. You know what I mean.

365 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:08:21am

the plumber guy is great. just your average small business guy in a T-shirt asking a direct question. Obama is so far off base when he said we have to make sure the others behind you also have a chance. huh? why wouldn't they have had the same chance this guy had? this spreading it around BS is nothing more than punishing doers and rewarding slackers.

366 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:08:42am

One of four AIG executives who spent $86,000.00 on murdering innocent partridges in England the same week Americans pulled their nuts out of the fire: "The recession should go on until 2001 but the shooting was great today and we are relaxing fine."

367 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:09:06am

re: #360 MandyManners

I've been saying for awhile now that he just needs to hammer home energy independence and fiscal sanity from Washington, and people will respond. I still believe that, so it's all I hope to hear tonight.

American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs. Coupled with Washington not spending like drunken sailors, the economy will improve.

That's a winning message. Run that for an ad, John!

368 jim in virginia  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:09:23am

re: #319 littleoldlady
sorry, was in the shower, about to go get breakfast.
Girls are fine. I get to drive them back down here Saturday (well. almost to here, Williamsburg, 20 miles up the road) for an Irish dance competetion.
They are thinking about high school- are enamored of the idea of boarding school but realistic enough to know that (1) they really don't want to be away from home and (2) it aint going to happen anyway

369 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:09:37am

re: #352 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does the "RYMB" appear anywhere but here? I don't look at other blogs. Did it originate here?

I have no idea. Maybe it's in the dictionary? it's been a while since I looked at it.

370 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:10:03am

'Night, Blue.

Bye, goddess.

TRYING to get myself moving here...

371 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:10:11am

re: #349 TheMatrix31

Data Analysis... you're on your own, Kiddo! :D

Traffic Analysis, can do. Data? groping...

372 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:11:02am

re: #362 MandyManners

I see. They seems somehow innoculated against any critcism of the One. They argue that the fact Obama sat in Wright's pews for 20 years listening to his racist preaching doesn't prove Obama actually shares those views. You have to believe against all evidence.

373 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:11:15am

re: #367 Sharmuta

I've been saying for awhile now that he just needs to hammer home energy independence and fiscal sanity from Washington, and people will respond. I still believe that, so it's all I hope to hear tonight.

American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs. Coupled with Washington not spending like drunken sailors, the economy will improve.

That's a winning message. Run that for an ad, John!

John, hire Sharmuta for the last three weeks of campaigning!

374 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:11:23am

re: #358 razorbacker

Then by definition, they aren't Yellow Dogs ('cause they'd vote for an old yaller dawg long as he wus a Democrat).

Trust me: my mom IS the epitome of a Yellow-Dog Democrat. It just goes to show how dangerous BHO is if she refuses to vote for him. For the first time in her life, she's sporting a bumper-sticker, and it's for McCain/Palin.

375 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:12:07am

re: #361 tappin52

I hope they can make their case. I have a two year old granddaughter and it makes me sick to think of that poor little girl, Caylee.

I don't see the state proceeding without a body unless they have an air-tight case.

376 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:14:19am

re: #368 jim in virginia

OH. I'm glad they're still dancing!

/I miss those old swim meet days. A pain to drive all over the place, but fun once we got there.

Boarding school?!

/what'll they think of next?! ;-)

377 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:14:50am

re: #373 scottishbuzzsaw

You're very kind, Sweetie.

378 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:15:37am

re: #377 Sharmuta

Did you just call her Sweetie?!

;-)

379 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:15:39am

re: #367 Sharmuta

I've been saying for awhile now that he just needs to hammer home energy independence and fiscal sanity from Washington, and people will respond. I still believe that, so it's all I hope to hear tonight.

American energy for American homes and cars will create jobs. Coupled with Washington not spending like drunken sailors, the economy will improve.

That's a winning message. Run that for an ad, John!

I want to hear more about ACORN and fraud in addition to the tax message.

380 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:16:15am

re: #372 Kenneth

I see. They seems somehow innoculated against any critcism of the One. They argue that the fact Obama sat in Wright's pews for 20 years listening to his racist preaching doesn't prove Obama actually shares those views. You have to believe against all evidence.

Perverse faith.

381 tappin52  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:16:34am

re: #363 Scion9
As far as I can tell it is circumstantial.

382 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:18:23am

re: #327 littleoldlady

Obama's 95% Illusion.

Redistribution of wealth by any other name still stinks.

383 Karridine  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:22:17am

re: #382 Oriculum

Redistribution of wealth by any other name still stinks.

Redistribution of wealth? Isn't that a Marxist, communist concept? Surely you don't think Obama would... I mean...

Aw, you're SERIOUS, aren't you? You actually think Obama would do something like THAT?

/

384 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:23:42am

re: #379 MandyManners

I want to hear more about ACORN and fraud in addition to the tax message.

I think most folks expect a bit of fraud from politicians. I didn't say like, or that they agree with it, I'm just saying that off-hand I couldn't name you a pol that I'd be comfortable with holding my wallet while I jumped in to save a little old bikini model from drowning.

Acorn, maybe. That thing might have some legs, if you could make people see just how dangerous it is to make people question the legality and fairness of our elections. Remember, the reason Nixon gave for not calling out the stolen '60 election was because he felt that the country wouldn't be served well by it.

385 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:23:47am

Good Morning Lizard Nation. Hillary on FNC with Gretchen Carlson.
She is claiming that she warned about Freddie & Fannie years ago & does not remember McCain issuing any warning .Surprise.
She conveniently forgets that the Clinton Admin pushed the CRA & appointed Franklin Raines.
Part of his remuneration was based on number of mortgages, no quality control.

386 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:23:53am

re: #378 littleoldlady

If the shoe fits.

/You're a Sweetie, too, lol.

387 akak  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:26:59am

re: #380 MandyManners

Perverse faith.

Moonbatitis, BDS, Bush-bots whatever it's called - sometimes people will close their eyes to the truth no matter how hard one yells. Stop yelling punch them in the gut.

388 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:28:35am

re: #384 razorbacker

I think most folks expect a bit of fraud from politicians. I didn't say like, or that they agree with it, I'm just saying that off-hand I couldn't name you a pol that I'd be comfortable with holding my wallet while I jumped in to save a little old bikini model from drowning.

Acorn, maybe. That thing might have some legs, if you could make people see just how dangerous it is to make people question the legality and fairness of our elections. Remember, the reason Nixon gave for not calling out the stolen '60 election was because he felt that the country wouldn't be served well by it.

I know of no one who expects this level of illegality.

389 Globular Cluster  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:29:26am

Oh brother, NYTimes/SeeBS poll has Obama up by 14%. Methinks this is crap but who nows. The MSM wants to demoralize McCain supporters.

390 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:29:37am

re: #385 opnion

Good Morning Lizard Nation. Hillary on FNC with Gretchen Carlson.
She is claiming that she warned about Freddie & Fannie years ago & does not remember McCain issuing any warning .Surprise.
She conveniently forgets that the Clinton Admin pushed the CRA & appointed Franklin Raines.
Part of his remuneration was based on number of mortgages, no quality control.

I hit MUTE when she said blaming this on Dodd and Frank was "a stretch."

391 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:29:59am

re: #389 Globular Cluster

The MSM wants to demoralize McCain supporters.

Ya think?

392 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:30:39am

re: #389 Globular Cluster

Oh brother, NYTimes/SeeBS poll has Obama up by 14%. Methinks this is crap but who nows. The MSM wants to demoralize McCain supporters.

Well, Saruman tried to demoralize the Hobbits!

393 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:31:46am

re: #372 Kenneth

I see. They seems somehow innoculated against any critcism of the One. They argue that the fact Obama sat in Wright's pews for 20 years listening to his racist preaching doesn't prove Obama actually shares those views. You have to believe against all evidence.


He had to drive almost 8 hours past lots of Christian Churches to get to Rev Wright. Why would he do that when every Sunday was like "Death to America Day" in Iran? Unless of course anybody actually believes his preposterous claim that he heard none of that stuff.

394 rightside  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:04am

re: #365 alien_mind

Exactly! no where else on this planet does everyone have the potential to achieve the American dream. It's there for the taking, not the handing out. One need only apply themselves.

395 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:27am

re: #388 MandyManners

I know of no one who expects this level of illegality.

Acorn isn't doing anything this election that they haven't been doing since about 1970. They're just having the light turned on them.

And they're a bigger organization, now. Subsidize something with tax dollars and you're likely to get more of it.

396 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:38am

re: #392 MandyManners

Well, Saruman tried to demoralize the Hobbits!

Who slipped that THC into my tea?

397 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:32:45am
Look at the party ID samples in every poll that “worries” you and see what the party ID breakdown is: the national breakdown should be 39% Dem, 35% Republican, and 26% Independent. The polls that “worry” Eeyores have Democrats at 45% or above in terms of party ID breakdown — with Republicans as low as 20%. In the last 20 years, Democrats have only had a 4% party ID advantage over Republicans. Why on Earth would that historic fact change in 2008 — and swing to a 25% or more Democrat advantage? That’s ridiculous. And everything Eeyores run around with, crazed over, is equally ridiculous if they’d just take the time to critically think through it.

Thank you, Hillbuzz.

398 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:33:22am

re: #390 MandyManners

I hit MUTE when she said blaming this on Dodd and Frank was "a stretch."

She never actually explained why it is a stretch, just that it's all Bush's fault.

399 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:33:32am

re: #396 MandyManners

Who slipped that THC into my tea?

*evil grin*

400 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:15am

re: #395 razorbacker

Acorn isn't doing anything this election that they haven't been doing since about 1970. They're just having the light turned on them.

And they're a bigger organization, now. Subsidize something with tax dollars and you're likely to get more of it.

All the more reason to nail it to BHO. His claim that giving ACORN $800,000.00 was okay because it was during the primaries is ludicrous.

401 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:16am

re: #393 opnion

Is that true? 8 hours?!

/typo? miles?

402 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:44am

re: #398 opnion

She never actually explained why it is a stretch, just that it's all Bush's fault.

I'm glad I missed that.

403 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:34:54am
404 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:35:08am

re: #391 Sharmuta

Ya think?

What a shock!

W. opens this Friday, but W.B. is going to hold off
on pro-McCain movie until after the election.

405 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:35:11am

re: #399 scottishbuzzsaw

*evil grin*

Where are the DingDongs?

406 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:36:44am

re: #401 littleoldlady

Is that true? 8 hours?!

/typo? miles?


Good catch, it's eight miles. I mapquested it. Thank's

407 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:38:55am

re: #403 taxfreekiller

I don't know exactly how to say this without sounding condescending or priggish, and I don't want to do that 'cause I've always enjoyed your posts.

Even when I didn't understand them.

But I find this format so much easier to read and comprehend.

408 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:39:33am

re: #403 taxfreekiller

I've looked for it on-line but, this was what I found.

[Link: www.protest.net...]

409 Oriculum  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:40:58am

re: #383 Karridine

Redistribution of wealth? Isn't that a Marxist, communist concept? Surely you don't think Obama would... I mean...

Aw, you're SERIOUS, aren't you? You actually think Obama would do something like THAT?

/

I know. It's hard to believe. The messiah might just have a slight lean to the left.

410 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:41:41am

Good morning, lizards.

WTF is with Chuck Hagel and his wife, Lilibet?

Michelle Obama to host Hagel's wife at last debate

“I am honored to join Michelle Obama at the debate tomorrow night and to strongly support Senator Obama as our country’s next president,” Lilibet Hagel said in a statement released by the Obama campaign.

411 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:41:43am

re: #385 opnion

Good Morning Lizard Nation. Hillary on FNC with Gretchen Carlson.
She is claiming that she warned about Freddie & Fannie years ago & does not remember McCain issuing any warning .Surprise.
She conveniently forgets that the Clinton Admin pushed the CRA & appointed Franklin Raines.
Part of his remuneration was based on number of mortgages, no quality control.

Morning, Lizards.

(Good morning, littleoldlady.)

So, now Hill is in the tank for The One, as well?

How will the PUMAs react to this, I wonder? Suddenly be overwhelmed with an irresistible impulse to pull the lever for The Obamessiah?

Or is she trying to triangulate ala' Bill?

/in which case, she may be trying to distance herself from an epic fail on Obama's part

Don't blame me- I did all I could for him. Now, about 2012.............


cheers

eon

412 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:43:54am

re: #410 jorline

Chuck has struck me as a RINO for a long time. Maybe he's just dropping the mask.

413 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:44:27am

Hey! eon! :-)

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:45:09am

re: #406 opnion

Good catch, it's eight miles. I mapquested it. Thank's

Well, it is Chicago traffic.

415 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:45:09am

re: #409 Oriculum

I know. It's hard to believe. The messiah might just have a slight lean to the left.


The "One" is neither left or right, up or down or constrained by any dimension.
He is as you know, a transcendent Lightworker. His positions & commands are not for us to understand only to obey.

416 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:37am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

WOW! Both ways?
;-)

417 x-wing  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:39am

re: #410 jorline

I think we know who lost their marbles in Viet Nam, and it wasn't McCain.

418 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:42am

If you need another reason to oppose Obiden

You know, that would explain a lot.

419 opnion  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:47:51am

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well, it is Chicago traffic.


Are you suggesting that Barry is constrained by traffic jams as a mere mortal?
Repent!

420 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:48:04am

re: #410 jorline

Good morning, lizards.

WTF is with Chuck Hagel and his wife, Lilibet?

Michelle Obama to host Hagel's wife at last debate

Maybe Lilibet has a good waffle recipe.

421 eon  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:48:09am

re: #415 opnion

The "One" is neither left or right, up or down or constrained by any dimension.
He is as you know, a transcendent Lightworker. His positions & commands are not for us to understand only to obey.

So, when he Ascends, do we all have tickets on the Lightship?

/channeling Ruth Norman and her deceased husband from the Unarius Foundation

cheers

eon

422 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:48:47am

re: #418 razorbacker

If you need another reason to oppose Obiden

You know, that would explain a lot.

LOL!

423 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:05am

re: #410 jorline

The Hagels found an old box discarded by the liberal republicans in the 60s, and mis-read the directions.

424 jorline  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:19am

re: #412 razorbacker

Chuck has struck me as a RINO for a long time. Maybe he's just dropping the mask.

Perhaps this should be a part of Mrs. Hagel's headdress apparel tonight.

425 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:20am

letter I wrote to the elections board.

To the election board, Swain County, NC.

I would like to thank you for the additional new registered Democrat voters here in Swain County, Cherokee NC.
36 million new registered Democrat voters in Western North Carolina is great for the party and anyone we decide to put into office. But,
As I had planed to vote for McCain/Palin this year I figure my chances are very slim.
That is not my problem!
The reason I am writing is that I have noticed most of the Wooden Indians here in Cherokee, N. C. have Obama stickers and many have cast ballots for Obama.
This Wooden Indian- Chief Splinter-in-the-Ass
outside the HANNAH Casino and Dining Hall did cast his ballot for Obama.
Upon further inspection my wife noticed that he is not a true red blooded Native American Indian. (see inserted picture) [Link: farm1.static.flickr.com...]
She discovered upon further inspection that he is a Chinese imitation plastic Wooden Indian.
I feel that allowing foreign persons to register and vote in NC should be investigated.
As always thanking you,
keyboard.
P.S.
in case the inevitable happens.

LONG LIVE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY,

AND SEIGE HEIL

OBAMA.

426 rancher  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:50:35am

Been preparing a blog post on the current mess, ACORN, Obama, and Barney Franks. Can anyone source the story Franks was dating a Fannie exec? There has to be a great joke in there somewhere but I haven't thought of it yet.

427 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:51:41am

re: #411 eon

I think she's come under a lot of pressure because 0bama's feeling the PUMA pressure. She has to make it look like she's playing along because she's not going to be in a position in the party to accomplish her future plans otherwise.

Political Rule #1- never trust a Clinton.

428 yesandno  Wed, Oct 15, 2008 4:52:14am