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A Friend of Bill Ayers in the Wall Street Journal

Politics | Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:42:18 am PDT

Here’s a sympathetic look at William Ayers from a friend of the former Weather Underground leader, on the Wall Street Journal Opinion page: My Friend Bill Ayers - WSJ.com.

I do not defend the things Mr. Ayers did in his Weatherman days. Nor will I quibble with those who find Mr. Ayers wanting in contrition. His 2001 memoir is shot through with regret, but it lacks the abject style our culture prefers.

Instead I want to note that, in its haste to convict a man merely for associating with Mr. Ayers, the GOP is effectively proposing to make the upcoming election into the largest mass trial in history, with all those professors and all those do-gooders on the hook for someone else’s deeds four decades ago. Also in the dock: the demonic city (Chicago) that once named Mr. Ayers its “Citizen of the Year.” Fire up Hurricane Katrina and point it toward Lake Michigan!

The McCain campaign has made much of its leader’s honor and bravery, but now it has chosen to mount its greatest attack against a man who poses no conceivable threat to the country, who has nothing to do with this year’s issues, and who cannot or will not defend himself. Apparently this makes him an irresistible target.

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1 Outrider  10/15/08 11:43:37 am reply quote

a friend in need is a friend indeed

2 the REAL  10/15/08 11:43:54 am reply quote

Poor baby

3 Thanos  10/15/08 11:44:50 am reply quote

It's not an association, it's a political alliance. Get it right WSJ.

4 joncelli  10/15/08 11:44:57 am reply quote

Nobody is this dense: It's the fact that Obama associates with him and that he is unrepentant in any meaningful sense. Why is this hard to understand?

5 WitchDoctor  10/15/08 11:45:28 am reply quote

"His 2001 memoir is shot through with regret, but it lacks the abject style our culture prefers."

Perhaps the most disingenuous thing I have ever read.

6 Sizzlack  10/15/08 11:45:36 am reply quote
on the hook for someone else’s deeds four decades ago

You know, Charles Manson committed some "deeds" four decades ago. Would you want to be his buddy if he were released from prison today?

Didn't think so.

7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  10/15/08 11:46:01 am reply quote
The McCain campaign has made much of its leader’s honor and bravery, but now it has chosen to mount its greatest attack against a man who poses no conceivable threat to the country, who has nothing to do with this year’s issues, and who cannot or will not defend himself.

I consider a terrorist and socialsist attempting to influence the education of our children a very large threat to our country. His teachings have obviously affected one of the candidate's world view, which make it an issue. Finally, with enough MSM shills doing the job for him, Ayers hasn't needed to make a statement.

8 Ringo the Gringo  10/15/08 11:46:08 am reply quote

As Robert Zimmerman once said, "You don't need a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows".

9 Cap'n DOC  10/15/08 11:46:10 am reply quote

As I remember it, didn't Sen. McCain say "he didn't care about some old terrorist"? They're really worried, ain't they?

10 Ward Cleaver  10/15/08 11:46:11 am reply quote

Commie agitprop.

11 realwest  10/15/08 11:46:27 am reply quote

Merely associating with him?
Uh, sorry for the re-post from the a prior thread folks, but in response to a question of mine regarding Obama writing a blurb for a book jacket of a book written by Billy Ayers, Kenneth responded thusly:

Yes, A Kind and Just Parent by Ayers, about juvinile criminal justice system. Obama reviewed it. Obama & Ayres worked together on a reform to Illinois laws on juvenile justice system.


And yet, VERY RECENTLY, Obama claimed that he hardly knew Billy Ayers. Gee, I wonder how that can be?! Oh, I see, just "associating" with him equals writing a blurb on the Ayers' bookjacket and working with Ayers on the juvenille justice system in Illinois.
Damn good thing for us that they weren't friends!

12 bosforus  10/15/08 11:46:31 am reply quote

Well I'm convinced. Ayers must not matter.

13 Globular Cluster  10/15/08 11:46:37 am reply quote

Ayers "poses no conceivable threat to the country"? Really? You don't think he's channeling his anti-Americanism into his little pinata?

14 Rednek  10/15/08 11:46:47 am reply quote

This does nothing to excuse the sqandering of over $100 million that BHO was responsible for as the head of the Annenberg Challenge.

15 Desert Dog  10/15/08 11:46:47 am reply quote

Ah gee, I guess he's right, I mean Ayers showed "some regret" in his memoirs, so come on....that is enough for me. I wonder if that was before or after he said he didn't do enough and decided to use the flag as a doormat?

This isn't about the human pile of scum that is William Ayers, it's about the man running for the highest office in the land and his decision making. You are know by the company you keep, and Obama keeps terrorists and racists as his friends.

16 Thanos  10/15/08 11:46:52 am reply quote
Also in the dock: the demonic city (Chicago) that once named Mr. Ayers its “Citizen of the Year.” Fire up Hurricane Katrina and point it toward Lake Michigan!

Ka TRIN A! Ka TRIN A! At TIC A~ errr KA TRIN A!

17 Killian Bundy  10/15/08 11:47:09 am reply quote

Oh boy, they let Ol' Plugs out his crate.

/c'mon motor mouth, say something bat[expletive deleted] crazy!

18 ploome hineni  10/15/08 11:47:12 am reply quote
The McCain campaign has made much of its leader’s honor and bravery, but now it has chosen to mount its greatest attack against a man who poses no conceivable threat to the country, who has nothing to do with this year’s issues, and who cannot or will not defend himself. Apparently this makes him an irresistible target.

indoctrinating our children to undermine our society and country make his a greater threat than domestic bombers

look at how he slips in this red herring

19 mean Gene  10/15/08 11:47:19 am reply quote

Hitler was a wonderful dancer, or so I'm told.
And Mussolini got the trains running on time.
I mean who is ALL bad all the time?

20 krycek  10/15/08 11:47:21 am reply quote
21 Ben Hur  10/15/08 11:47:56 am reply quote

Arafat was just a misunderstood gay smurf.

22 Ward Cleaver  10/15/08 11:48:06 am reply quote

re: #6 Sizzlack

You know, Charles Manson committed some "deeds" four decades ago. Would you want to be his buddy if he were released from prison today?

Didn't think so.

"In a statement from U.S Attorney General Charles Manson..."

23 Sizzlack  10/15/08 11:48:14 am reply quote

re: #19 mean Gene

Hitler was a wonderful dancer, or so I'm told.
And Mussolini got the trains running on time.
I mean who is ALL bad all the time?

Dr. Evil?

24 Thanos  10/15/08 11:48:30 am reply quote

re: #14 Rednek

This does nothing to excuse the sqandering of over $100 million that BHO was responsible for as the head of the Annenberg Challenge.

If you count the matching grants and contributions it's actually 150 million wasted.

25 Cap'n DOC  10/15/08 11:48:34 am reply quote

re: #18 ploome hineni

re: #9 Cap'n DOC

As I remember it, didn't Sen. McCain say "he didn't care about some old terrorist"? They're really worried, ain't they?

26 loppyd  10/15/08 11:48:36 am reply quote

re: #17 Killian Bundy

Oh boy, they let Ol' Plugs out his crate.

/c'mon motor mouth, say something bat[expletive deleted] crazy!

is his forehead moving?

27 Ward Cleaver  10/15/08 11:49:03 am reply quote

re: #21 Ben Hur

Arafat was just a misunderstood gay smurf.

A living, breathing, garden gnome.

28 willowone  10/15/08 11:49:05 am reply quote

Only re-iterates to me the skewed form of Ethics and Morality many have.

29 scottishbuzzsaw  10/15/08 11:49:08 am reply quote
Mr. Ayers has been involved with countless foundation efforts and has received various awards. He volunteers for everything. He may once have been wanted by the FBI, but in the intervening years the man has become such a good citizen he ought to be an honorary Eagle Scout.

Somehow I doubt the Scouts would have him.

30 Rednek  10/15/08 11:49:21 am reply quote

re: #19 mean Gene

Hitler was a wonderful dancer, or so I'm told.
And Mussolini got the trains running on time.
I mean who is ALL bad all the time?

And Hilter was a talented artist, too!
And loved dogs.
And was nice to the women on his staff.

31 maddogg  10/15/08 11:49:41 am reply quote

What a crock of shit. Sonofabitch might as well write an apology for Satan. It would make just as much sense.

32 loppyd  10/15/08 11:49:49 am reply quote

Whatevah.

The man has never said he was sorry. That means he is totally cool with what he did. Which means those who decide to befriend him are cool with it too.

33 Honorary Yooper  10/15/08 11:49:51 am reply quote
Also in the dock: the demonic city (Chicago) that once named Mr. Ayers its “Citizen of the Year.”

As well it and its legendary corruption should be. Daley, Stroger, Jones, et.al. have been pushing along their socialistic/fascistic agenda for years in the city and in Cook County. Now with Blago, they went statewide with it. With Obama, it's a golden opportunity to make it go national.

34 Iron Fist  10/15/08 11:49:55 am reply quote

Is it wrong of me to hope that Ayres has a work accident the next time he decides to bomb someplace?

35 Ward Cleaver  10/15/08 11:50:18 am reply quote

re: #29 scottishbuzzsaw

Somehow I doubt the Scouts would have him.

He'd at least get the merit badge for bomb-making.

36 FloridaAnole  10/15/08 11:50:20 am reply quote

"Mass Trial?" How can there be a mass trial with only one defendent? Though his activities invited a mass of charges under an indictment. The only reason he is not serving a life sentence is because of a screwup getting warrants on the wiretaps.

As for being no danger to the country, I think his activities re:under-the radar indoctrination of school children are plenty dangerous to the republic.

37 Ringo the Gringo  10/15/08 11:50:36 am reply quote
a man who poses no conceivable threat to the country

The fact that he is now an esteemed professor at a major American University is enough for me to consider him a threat, at least to the minds of his students.

38 jorline  10/15/08 11:50:47 am reply quote

Sad song for Bill Ayers played on this.

39 Desert Dog  10/15/08 11:51:05 am reply quote

Maybe they can dig up the people that died in the bombings this monster helped plot, plan and implement. I am sure they will be glad to hear that Mr. Ayers expressed some regret......that makes it all better, doesn't it?

40 joecitizen  10/15/08 11:51:08 am reply quote

clran up on aisle 249 on previous thread..

41 Globular Cluster  10/15/08 11:51:09 am reply quote

Obama wouldn't pass an FBI clearance check for job position. He wants to be Commander in Chief, however.

42 Palandine  10/15/08 11:51:15 am reply quote

He stopped being an unskilled bomber.

He went on to use daddy's massive wealth and influence (good thing he didn't personally follow through on his exhortation to "kill your parents") to create programs designed to warp the minds of children and undermine the criminal justice system. He treads on the flag that gives him the right to be a scumbag.

He's FAR more dangerous now than he was in the past, when his incompetence killed three of his hippie terrorist cohorts.

43 rawmuse  10/15/08 11:51:19 am reply quote

This is pathetic. It is the plea of man to the Cyclops, begging to be eaten last.

44 Bill in AZ  10/15/08 11:51:23 am reply quote

Preemptive inoculation against anything McCain might say about Ayers in the debate. MSM did the same thing prior to the last debate, and prior to Hannity's America connect-the-dots show a week or so ago.

45 realwest  10/15/08 11:51:28 am reply quote

Some interesting news, perhaps: Last night on Fox News, Shep Smith was talking about a new poll and said that 9% of Independent Voters and 11% of Independent voters had expressed interest in both Ayers and Wright.
9% and 11% aren't much, but, again according to Smith, two weeks ago, Independents showed NO INTEREST AT ALL in either Ayers or Wright.
Keep pounding 'em folks, sooner or later the American Voter will get it.
I just hope they get it before the election, not after.

46 Honorary Yooper  10/15/08 11:51:31 am reply quote

re: #34 Iron Fist

IMHO, no.

47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  10/15/08 11:51:37 am reply quote

re: #29 scottishbuzzsaw

Somehow I doubt the Scouts would have him.

"So I tried to kill a few people, blow up a few government offices, forced people to have sex with strangers, brainwashed people into a degenerate, violent mindset and encourgaed people to kill their parents. Come on, who didn't do that when they were a kid?"

/

48 Rednek  10/15/08 11:51:39 am reply quote

re: #31 maddogg

What a crock of shit. Sonofabitch might as well write an apology for Satan. It would make just as much sense.

I think if Obama wins this, the WSJ will need to affirm its help in electing him whenever they write critical editorials about him over the next four years.

49 MrSilverDragon  10/15/08 11:51:39 am reply quote

Clearly, that article was ghostwritten by Ayers.

50 subsailor68  10/15/08 11:52:20 am reply quote

As a reference, here are links to Thomas Frank's entry in Wiki, and to his home page:

Wiki Entry

Thomas Frank's Home Page

Enjoy.

//

51 Occasional Reader  10/15/08 11:52:34 am reply quote
I do not defend the things Mr. Ayers did in his Weatherman days. Nor will I quibble with those who find Mr. Ayers wanting in contrition. His 2001 memoir is shot through with regret, but it lacks the abject style our culture prefers.

Weaselly, double-talk bullshit.

52 Kosh's Shadow  10/15/08 11:52:41 am reply quote

re: #6 Sizzlack

You know, Charles Manson committed some "deeds" four decades ago. Would you want to be his buddy if he were released from prison today?

Didn't think so.


I think Bernadette Dohrn still would. She is sick.

53 Golem Akbar  10/15/08 11:53:03 am reply quote

No. No. No.
As an ex-SDS-er, I say hell no.
I left SDS once they started getting into the radical-bomb-thrower mode, and I never looked back. Any of those people, convicted or not, who are unrepentant, deserve complete disdain. For Obama to pal around with Ayers, on any (damned) level, deserves shunning. [my head is about to explode, so I'll just take a chill pill/cup of coffee]

54 subsailor68  10/15/08 11:53:08 am reply quote

re: #51 Occasional Reader

Amen!

55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  10/15/08 11:53:09 am reply quote

re: #34 Iron Fist

Is it wrong of me to hope that Ayres has a work accident the next time he decides to bomb someplace?

Ayers has switched from the militant to the political wing ala Hezzballah.

56 maddogg  10/15/08 11:53:15 am reply quote

re: #48 Rednek

I think if Obama wins this, the WSJ will need to affirm its help in electing him whenever they write critical editorials about him over the next four years.

What makes you think criticism is going to be tolerated by the Left after the election?

57 krycek  10/15/08 11:54:05 am reply quote
58 Ringo the Gringo  10/15/08 11:54:09 am reply quote
His 2001 memoir is shot through with regret

Yes, regret for not having done more.

59 Rednek  10/15/08 11:54:20 am reply quote

re: #56 maddogg

What makes you think criticism is going to be tolerated by the Left after the election?

That's right. They wouldn't want to be called a bunch of racists.

60 Globular Cluster  10/15/08 11:54:25 am reply quote

re: #55 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ayers has switched from the militant to the political wing ala Hezzballah.

Bingo.

61 Shug  10/15/08 11:54:39 am reply quote
The McCain campaign has made much of its leader’s honor and bravery, but now it has chosen to mount its greatest attack against a man who poses no conceivable threat to the country, who has nothing to do with this year’s issues, and who cannot or will not defend himself. Apparently this makes him an irresistible target.

You could say the same thing about Timothy McVeigh

62 Who Watches the Watchmen?  10/15/08 11:54:40 am reply quote

Not only is it about the Weather Underground's nefarious historical deeds, but it is about the ideology that Mr. Ayers promotes to this very day.

63 redstateredneck  10/15/08 11:55:34 am reply quote

I assume the article was written by this Thomas Frank?

He would certainly be an impartial observer.

64 Outrider  10/15/08 11:55:34 am reply quote
...a former member of the Weathermen, which planted bombs and issued preposterous statements in the Vietnam era...

Vietnam era? For example the January 29, 1975 bombing of the Harry S Truman Building housing the United States Department of State, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."

Escalation in Vietnam? U.S. Congress passed the Case-Church Amendment in June 1973 prohibiting further U.S. military intervention. In April 1975, North Vietnam captured Saigon.

Time to quit rationalizing Mr Franks. Your neighbor just liked sending girls out to blow shit up.

65 SummerSong  10/15/08 11:55:39 am reply quote

He's a Huff-Po blogger...

66 Occasional Reader  10/15/08 11:56:07 am reply quote
Instead I want to note that, in its haste to convict a man merely for associating with Mr. Ayers, the GOP

But if Ayers is this model citizen/latent Eagle Scout/superhumanitarian that you claim he is, what's the problem with associating Obama with him?

Eh?

Make up your mind, Tommy.

67 Who Watches the Watchmen?  10/15/08 11:56:11 am reply quote

re: #34 Iron Fist

Is it wrong of me to hope that Ayres has a work accident the next time he decides to bomb someplace?

Long ago he gave up bomb building for boiling frogs. The soup is about to be served.

68 Ward Cleaver  10/15/08 11:56:28 am reply quote

If you wish to opine, here's the link to comments on that column. Some good ones there already.

69 Occasional Reader  10/15/08 11:56:30 am reply quote

re: #54 subsailor68

Amen!

Hell, I'm a lawyer, and *I'd* be ashamed to write a sentence like that!

70 Oh no...Sand People!  10/15/08 11:56:49 am reply quote
a man who poses no conceivable threat to the country,

This 'man who poses no conceivable threat to the country' was able to lead a group to bomb making and killing civilians. If he can impress those to do that, imagine the 'impressions' he is making as a teacher.

'[N]o conceivable threat' my a_ _.

His 2001 memoir is shot through with regret, but it lacks the abject style our culture prefers.

An 'I made a mistake and shouldn't have brainwashed those people into doing what I told them to do. I was a radical deviant and am doing what I can to amend for my crimes. I am sorry.' is too much to ask?

Instead we get this on September 11, 2001:

"I don't regret setting bombs"

and

"I feel we didn't do enough",

and, when asked if he would

"do it all again"

as saying

"I don't want to discount the possibility."

*spit*

71 Ben Hur  10/15/08 11:56:57 am reply quote

re: #32 loppyd


She was boo-ed.

It was expected.

Keep the case as my gift to you for your wedding.

72 Desert Dog  10/15/08 11:57:14 am reply quote

Obama wants it both ways. He wants to get the approval of people like Ayers and Wright, and then he wants the rest of us to just ignore that, like it does not matter.....in his mind, it doesn't matter...

How did this man get so close to being President? How did this happen? Have we all lost our minds in this country?

73 subsailor68  10/15/08 11:57:20 am reply quote

re: #62 Who Watches the Watchmen?

I completely agree, and think that's the key. Bad enough that Ayers was what he was - the real point is that he's never retracted his position/rhetoric, and continues to, as you note, promote his agenda even now.

That's what Sen. Obama needs to address - and what Sen. McCain needs to hammer home.

74 maddogg  10/15/08 11:57:57 am reply quote

re: #61 Shug

You could say the same thing about Timothy McVeigh

No, McVeigh was a right wing bomber, therefore a monster, but a competant monster. Ayres was an incompetant left wing monster, therefore a hero.

75 Ward Cleaver  10/15/08 11:58:01 am reply quote

re: #72 Desert Dog

Have we all lost our minds in this country?

Well, about 50% have, anyway.

76 Who Watches the Watchmen?  10/15/08 11:58:29 am reply quote

re: #63 redstateredneck

I assume the article was written by this Thomas Frank?

He would certainly be an impartial observer.

Wrecking Crew is a leftist polemic.
What's the matter with Kansas? is a screed insulting rural citizens who vote Republican against their own interests.
It's fitting for him to give Ayers a public tongue-bath, but what's it doing in the WSJ?.

77 WrathofG-d  10/15/08 11:58:41 am reply quote

A friend from Iowa told me that he got some inside information that this was going to be the new Obama Campaign rally song.

78 guitarguy  10/15/08 11:58:50 am reply quote

Bill Ayers is no different than Mohammed Atta.
Bill Ayers is no different than Timothy McVeigh.

They each desired to kill innocent civilians at their place of business.
They each succeeded.

Barack Obama HAS to be held to account for his relationship with this terrorist.

79 subsailor68  10/15/08 11:59:33 am reply quote

re: #69 Occasional Reader

LOL! Looks like he just started stringing words together and decided to throw a period in here and there. :-)

80 Pastorius  10/15/08 11:59:56 am reply quote

Ghostwriter just in time for Halloween.

81 scottishbuzzsaw  10/15/08 12:00:01 pm reply quote

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

If you wish to opine,

82 ploome hineni  10/15/08 12:00:10 pm reply quote

re: #78 guitarguy

Bill Ayers is no different than Mohammed Atta.
Bill Ayers is no different than Timothy McVeigh.

They each desired to kill innocent civilians at their place of business.
They each succeeded.

Barack Obama HAS to be held to account for his relationship with this terrorist.

first go after the University of Illinois at Chicago

how a STATE UNIVERSITY can hire dreck like that.........and how parent can allow their children to attend his classes

that is boyoned me

83 Occasional Reader  10/15/08 12:00:20 pm reply quote

re: #63 redstateredneck

I assume the article was written by this

84 Rednek  10/15/08 12:00:42 pm reply quote

re: #78 guitarguy

Bill Ayers is no different than Mohammed Atta.
Bill Ayers is no different than Timothy McVeigh.

They each desired to kill innocent civilians at their place of business.
They each succeeded.

Barack Obama HAS to be held to account for his relationship with this terrorist.

If future behavior is predicted by past, then maybe Zawahiri will put him on the board of some philanthropic organization.

85 Intrepid  10/15/08 12:00:56 pm reply quote

OT: Signs I saw today when I went to pick up Mom from the Senior Center - a 10 mile one-way trip.

10 McCain/Palin (two of them were HUGE)
4 Local state rep (Democrat)
2 Combo - Local state rep (Democrat) plus McCain/Palin
0 Obama/Biden

Plus:

2 Home-made "Top Soil for Sale"
1 Home-made "Super Nurse 66" (Go SUPER NURSE 66! Whoever you are...)

I'm in a red state (TN) but a relatively blue county. I've seen no Obama/Biden signs anywhere.

Heh.

86 Outrider  10/15/08 12:01:00 pm reply quote

Same Thomas Frank ?

Birds of a feather? Not quite impartial eh?

Frank espouses a Left political perspective and is highly critical of Republican governance, especially the presidency of George W. Bush. However, he has also criticized the Democratic Party for "swearing off economic liberalism"[1]. He is unique among writers on the American Left both for his political outlook, which revives the discourses of the American Populist Movement of the late 19th and early 20th centuries [2], and for his polemical style, which has been said to update that of the muckrakers of the same historical era

Frank is the founder and editor of The Baffler and the author of several books, most recently The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule. Other writings include essays for Harper's Magazine, Le Monde diplomatique, Bookforum, and the Financial Times. His book What's the Matter with Kansas?, published in 2004, earned him nationwide and international recognition.

87 subsailor68  10/15/08 12:01:30 pm reply quote

re: #85 Intrepid

How much for the top soil? :-)

88 erisldysnomia  10/15/08 12:01:30 pm reply quote
I do not defend the things Mr. Ayers did in his Weatherman days.

But you don't particularly abhor him for it, either.

Me - I find out an associate once killed, or tried to kill, innocent civilians, and it's SAYONARA, ASSHOLE.

89 Killian Bundy  10/15/08 12:01:31 pm reply quote

Well, it's off so suffer through a boring two hour CLE on, Kids in Trouble: Juvenile Law.

Hey, maybe Ayers will be a speaker!

/after all, he did write A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court

90 Occasional Reader  10/15/08 12:01:41 pm reply quote

re: #79 subsailor68

LOL! Looks like he just started stringing words together and decided to throw a period in here and there. :-)

It's the "I'm not disagreeing with you, even though you're wrong and stupid and evil" style of discourse.

If weasels could talk, even weasels would blush at talking that way.

91 taxfreekiller  10/15/08 12:02:06 pm reply quote

Still yet, judgment nears, still yet the judgment comes, now the liars all point long bony fingers to the four winds, not I, not he, not that one,
no one is to blame, no one cast the dishonor, no one lied, no one committed fraud, its all History now,,,,, but the Demon History accepts only truth for his History, not one lie from Lt. for life Kerry, not one snake made lie of William Ayers or his little Toddie Obama will be allowed in the true History,,,,,,,, on comes the red eyes of the demon history, he on his huge black horse of judgment, dusting up the hooves of time, ready to grind this cult of lies into the dust of the universe beyond.

Never Forget:

Sgt. Jerry Michale Shriver "special forces, S.O.G. 0-1",has them once more, surrounded from the inside, "right where he wants them"

92 Strike Hornet  10/15/08 12:02:27 pm reply quote

re: #6 Sizzlack

on the hook for someone else’s deeds four decades ago

You know, Charles Manson committed some "deeds" four decades ago. Would you want to be his buddy if he were released from prison today?

Didn't think so.

I'm sure Mr. Manson would be welcomed with open arms into the faculty of the University of Illinois and given the key to the City of Chicago.

F'in loons.

93 jcm  10/15/08 12:02:41 pm reply quote
His 2001 memoir is shot through with regret,...


The regret of not doing more, not succeeding at Fort Dix, not causing more death and damage, not causing the violent overthrow of our government.

Ayers and his fellow travelers can piss up a rope.

94 erisldysnomia  10/15/08 12:03:21 pm reply quote

... Obamessiah threw Ayers under the bus today, by the way...

Stating that you "won't include [a terrorist] in your administration" is reminiscent of another line:

"I absolutely don't beat my wife."

95 Desert Dog  10/15/08 12:03:31 pm reply quote

re: #88 erisldysnomia

But you don't particularly abhor him for it, either.

Me - I find out an associate once killed, or tried to kill, innocent civilians, and it's SAYONARA, ASSHOLE.

Yes, but what if you are a highly ambitious up and coming wannabe politician and this associate represents your way "in"? And, what if you happen to agree with everything he says?

My guess is, you would still say SAYONARA, ASSHOLE!

96 Ben Hur  10/15/08 12:03:56 pm reply quote

La Pequeña Sarah Palin


It was inevitable.

I guess.

97 erisldysnomia  10/15/08 12:04:17 pm reply quote

re: #92 Strike Hornet

I'm sure Mr. Manson would be welcomed with open arms into the faculty of the University of Illinois and given the key to the City of Chicago.

F'in loons.

Why don't we email the senior leaders there and inquire?

98 Intrepid  10/15/08 12:04:25 pm reply quote

re: #87 subsailor68

How much for the top soil? :-)

Dunno, but one of them also had a pile of rocks beside it. I'll bet you can get a good price for both.

99 cblesz  10/15/08 12:04:29 pm reply quote

I sent this clown an email last night telling him how pathetic he was. I said that I guess if Osama Bin Laden decided to get his teaching credentials and become a professor at Amherst College, it would make him a good guy and all would be forgotten...

100 Occasional Reader  10/15/08 12:04:54 pm reply quote

re: #81 scottishbuzzsaw

This commenter doesn't think the Scouts would have him either:

Au contraire. I'm sure any good troop of Eagle Scouts would be delighted to host Mr. Ayers in the woods for a weekend.

Say, the New Jersey Pine Barrens. Just as an example.

[whistling innocently]

101 Ben Hur  10/15/08 12:04:54 pm reply quote

Jesse was thrown under the bus (again) today.

102 subsailor68  10/15/08 12:05:03 pm reply quote

re: #90 Occasional Reader

Okay, your reference to weasels forced me to this:

British joke (they love weasel jokes)

Two weasels are sitting at the bar. One weasel turns to the other and says "I'm sleeping with your mother."

Other weasel ignores him.

First weasel says "Didn't hear what I said? I'm sleeping with your mother."

Other weasel ignores him.

First weasel says "I said I'm sleeping with your mother. What do you think about that?"

Other weasel says, "I think you're drunk Dad. Go home."

(sorry)

103 Outrider  10/15/08 12:05:05 pm reply quote

re: #63 redstateredneck

I assume the article was written by this Thomas Frank?

He would certainly be an impartial observer.

You're quick. Didn't intend to duplicate your post. ;-)>

104 lostlakehiker  10/15/08 12:05:15 pm reply quote

The problem is the things Ayers has done since he moved on from outright terrorism in favor of a Long March through the school system. Ayers and Obama worked in harness to radicalize Chicago school children.

The Chicago school `reform' they worked together on achieved nothing whatever in terms of improved test scores. As it became evident over time that it never would, they were undiscouraged. After all, that was never the point.

It DOES tell us something that Obama saw fit to work with Ayers on Ayers' education projects. As to guilt by association for Chicago at large, there isn't a chance in the world that the city would have voted Ayers any sort of honor in a referendum. The city's leadership bears the responsibility.

105 addison  10/15/08 12:05:37 pm reply quote

The Marxist Thomas Frank (author of What's Wrong with Kansas?) pens a paean about the Communist Bill Ayers. And I, or anyone else, should be moved by this writing for what reason?

His apologia is rife with the same kind of logic holes as his acclaimed book--acclaimed, that is, by the sort of people who say "Flyover Country" with a sneer.

106 cblesz  10/15/08 12:05:43 pm reply quote

re: #101 Ben Hur

Jesse was thrown under the bus (again) today.

Until he makes him Secretary of State...

107 erisldysnomia  10/15/08 12:05:55 pm reply quote

re: #99 cblesz

I sent this clown an email last night telling him how pathetic he was. I said that I guess if Osama Bin Laden decided to get his teaching credentials and become a professor at Amherst College, it would make him a good guy and all would be forgotten...

Being a professor at a major university these days means absolutely nothing.

In fact, it's often a sign of deviance and mental deficiency.

I was once one, and left out of disgust; so believe me, I know.