Open thread!

I will not click a video of an empty stage. Not!

Damnit, I'm not really OCD. I'm not.

*click*

re: #1 tommygum

Open thread!

OK, what's the second thing you have to say?

So, what are the odds McCain will hit Obama on his glass chin tonight? Or, will he sit there and grumble all night and let "the One" walk all over him?

I'm so ronery here!

smother the fucker in truth johnno..

Hit him hard, keep it polite, refer to facts, project confidence, and never lose your cool.

When's the debate start anyway?

It'd root hog or die, John. I think you owe your country one more favor.

The truth will set us free.....

So, Senator, you and William Ayers, ever hear of Sgt. Jerry Michael Shriver of the Army Special Forces, I hear he has your sorry ass's
sourned from the inside , "right where he wants you"

ME TOO.

...really doubt he has been taking any. Wouldn't it be nice if he did for a change!

what's up with the link mouse in the bottom right fourth of the screen?

here's some pre show entertainment...

[Link: farewellisrael.com...]

re: #9 maddogg

It'd root hog or die, John. I think you owe your country one more favor.

he doesn't 'owe' us anything..but he put himself up in this position and he damn well better fight for it!

re: #7 joncelli

Oh, and give me a pony!

/Poor John's probably getting LOTS of advice.

will obama have his "me too" bracelet tonight?

John, Mr. Senator sir,

When you talk about Ayers, tell 'em it's not how many board meetings they shared, it's the agenda that they shared that makes Obama unfit to lead, because they still share that agenda.

"action drill" repeat as needed

Oh crap. I just put 2+2 together and got Phillies game + debate. :-(

McCain has promised to whip Obama. I want Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Ayers, Wright, Obama's lies, Obama's tax increases (to all of us!), and every bit of flim-flam exposed.

Ignore the questions. Dig into what you want to say, McCain.

Get on Hussein's six.
Blow him out of the sky.

You've got more than enough ammo.
FOR GOD'S SAKE USE IT ALL!

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

re: #20 littleoldlady

That's why remotes have 'Last" buttons.

McCain needs to take the pitbull attitude in with him, minus the lippy, of course.

Odds are I'll be watching the Habs/Bruins game or the Dodgers/Phillies game- you know.....to see who my Red Sox will play in the World Series after yet another come-from-behind ALCS win

re: #25 A Kiwi Infidel

McCain needs to take the pitbull attitude in with him, minus the lippy, of course.

I don't know, it seems to me that McCain could use some make-up help.

Perhaps Hillary Clinton can lend him her stylist?

re: #23 Charles

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

That's Obama's debate prep.

last-minute advice you may have for John McCain.

Has he listened to any before now?

Advice to McCain?

Keep it simple.

Nobody ever defended anything successfully, there is only attack and attack and attack some more. Attack, attack and attack more on Obama's socialism and radical leftist associations which inform the electorate as to Obama's character, judgment, and leftist leanings to solve all problems through government intervention and redistribution of wealth. It's the economy, stupid. Obama's (and the Democrats in general) solution for the economy is to socialize ever larger aspects. That's destructive and corrosive to the entrepreneurial spirit that makes this nation the envy of the world (and yes, I'd say that in the debate - because it's true and is a natural segue into foreign policy discussion, where again Obama wants to duck his protectionist bent).

Obama cannot defend his socialism. He'll deflect it and try to weasel around it, but he cannot avoid the fact that he's calling for massive redistributions of wealth. If Obama tries, it will be to the cheers of racism and smears by his supporters against McCain.

Interesting...Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?

re: #24 joncelli

That's why remotes have 'Last" buttons.

The minute I switch the channel I miss the good stuff on the other channel.

/no mazel :-(

re: #20 littleoldlady

Oh crap. I just put 2+2 together and got Phillies game + debate. :-(

I have my CWV meeting. I'll blow through it quick. "No new business, motion to close."

Turn me on.

A conservative talk show host in Denver, Mike Rosen (KOA Clear Channel), was saying today that McCain should get off of the Ayers and Rezko stories.

He says since the MSLM (main stream liberal media, since he considers himself main stream conservative media) is NOT really covering any of these stories in any detail, then John Q. Public really doesn't know anything about them and McCain doesn't have the time to try to bring the public up to speed in minute and a half debate answers.

Rosen said most of the coverage on these topics are on conservative talk show and blogs, which amounts to preaching to the choir and doesn't reach the people who count.

He says McCain should address the economy and stay off those other subjects, becuase the economy IS a topic that has been covered to death by the MSLM.

Keep the racists and kooks out from this one.

McCain should ask The Vapid One why he sued to force a bank to make sub-prime mortgages. Then he should ask him what he wanted to teach the children of Chicago. Then he should ask why he has directed his followers to shut down dissenting opinions. Then ask the American public why it's a good idea to elect a radical Marxist as President. Then ask...

re: #23 Charles

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

You know, Charles, I just cant help thinking that someone, somewhere, is making a shit load of money manipulating the market during these tumultuous times. That said, someone is losing a shitload at the other end.

Be charming and paint in broad strokes.

Most of the yapping brainiacs don't like you anyway.

re: #23 Charles

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

Bernanke talked the markets down with his comments earlier. The moment he said economy slowing, the market went south at a faster clip.

I'd watch energy prices too. They can't sustain these levels if the economy slows as much as they're claiming. The oil prices are going to tank. Literally.

Get a copy of those fake fraud voters Michale Malkin has up on her web site, ask him what he thinks of that and ACORN . Advise him that fraud allows the lifting of the corporate veil, and the directors of all the ACORN operations nation wide to be sued individually, WOULD YOU SUPPORT THIS ?

Later gang!

For the love of God John stop with the "my friends"

If I was McCain, I would ask Obama how his "spread the wealth" comment to the plumber differs from socialism. Simple and sweet.

re: #23 Charles

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

Huh- weren't Frank, Pelosi and all those other congresscritters patting themselves on the back two weeks ago saying this was exactly what the bailout was supposed to prevent?

Nut up and start hammering. Don't stop until he's a bleeding, twitching pile of goo on the floor. My Dad always said "David, you should never start a fight. But, if you find you're in one, damn well make sure you END the fucker." Go get him John. I'll hold your coat.

Ignore the Polls. I say McCain takes PA.

This site is the best Video Ads for McCain/Palin Must See

BRING UP IRAQ.

Again, if the situation was reversed, any time the MSM would mention McCain, they would write:

John McCain, who for the last 2+ years has said that Iraq was the most important issue in the world.......

re: #2 Dianna

I will not click a video of an empty stage. Not!

Damnit, I'm not really OCD. I'm not.

*click*

hee-hee.
you and me both.

re: #20 littleoldlady

Oh crap. I just put 2+2 together and got Phillies game + debate. :-(

This sort of dilemma is why god invented the DVR.

Dow closed 758 down.

Wearing my Nobama shirt to school right now. I'll give you all an update soon.

re: #52 TheMatrix31

Wearing my Nobama shirt to school right now. I'll give you all an update soon.

I hope you are well armed..

re: #52 TheMatrix31

Wearing my Nobama shirt to school right now. I'll give you all an update soon.

GAH! All we want to hear is that you've come back ALIVE! :-/

re: #44 Walter L. Newton

Good one. Everyone can identify with having their money expropriated.

re: #23 Charles

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

That's the Plumber Effect.

Say nuclear as often as possible -

to replace fossil fuel power
to power making hydrogen
to power regeneration of batteries
to reduce emissions incredibly
to be self-sufficient
to avoid sacrifice at home
to stay ahead in the world marketplace
to make Yucca mountain good for something
(and to roll Reid along the way - we need that proven disposal site!)
to provide the stick to go with the carrot to the rest of the world
to nuke the moon (imao)
to avoid wasting money on renewables that are energy sinks
to avoid warping the economics of food

By the way, Charles, thanks for shortening the comment field!

Quick, someone post Ayatollah Gmaoidjhajalsdjflasd's great post to McCain.

Bring up the fact that all The One spoke about for 2 out his 3 years in the Senate campaigning for PRes, was about IRaq, and how the MSM and The One, for some strange reason, NEVER bring it up anymore.

re: #23 Charles

This is exactly why i'm staying away from stocks and just trading currencies.markets like this are hard to make money on. Yeah, if you are on the right side of the move you can do well. But if you aren't.......ouch

In other debates and interviews I noticed Obama often answers questions with some variety of "First I would" blah blah blah. The answer goes on and on but he never gets to a "Second I would" blah blah blah. He leaves you with the impression he has many well thought out answers when all he had was 1 long rambling answer to a now forgotton question.

re: #43 bulwrk

For the love of God John stop with the "my friends"

If I were undecided the last thing I'd want is some suck-up trying to woo me over by pretending he's my friend.

re: #43 bulwrk

For the love of God John stop with the "my friends"

And replace it with "My fellow Americans".

re: #23 Charles

Dow's taking another dive. Down almost 700.

Just in time for the O to use it as a talking point. "Why just today Wall Street dropped 700 points because of the failed policies brought to you by 8 years of Bush and McCain". Can't you just hear it now?

/barf...

re: #51 tommygum

Dow closed 758 down.

Those who started the sell off will be buying back in tomorrow. Expect the DOW to rise another 700, then the sell off will begin again, and the so the cycle continues.

re: #35 Walter L. Newton

Then he's missing out.

CNN is hammering ACORN; Ayers has actually been mentioned.

Rumblings from the depths, perhaps, but I think this is going to blow up big.

re: #64 Dave_Da_Kid

Just in time for the O to use it as a talking point. "Why just today Wall Street dropped 700 points because of the failed policies brought to you by 8 years of Bush and McCain". Can't you just hear it now?

/barf...

McCain needs to stop being afraid to defend Republicans and Bush.

Ooh, a debate! I've got a little something to say. Please forgive, if it requires some scrolling :-)

McCain should look at this as Democracy vs. Socialism and show a little bit of that temper we've all heard about.

SWEEP THE LEG.

Yup, I'm waiting for McCain "to turn me on."

More important, does a debate take precedence over my Phillies?

Bring The Plumber from Ohio as your special guest and during any "free debate" portion you may be given, ask Obama if he remembers talking to this man a few days ago...

Obama's game plan for the debate would be thrown so off kilter, he could never recover. He might just have to talk about pies for the rest of the debate.

Also, bring some acorns in your pocket just to toss around the stage while Obambi is pontificating. (o:

Perhaps McCain could start off by asking Obama just what it is about him that caused Ayers and his wife to support him.

"Senator, I think the American people would like to know why it is that unrepentant terrorists Ayers and his wife have been so supportive of you in your political career."

re: #36 Abu Kuffar

Keep the racists and kooks out from this one.

You mean exclude the nutroots?

Advice for McCain? Just win, baby. Just win.

More concretely, hit 0bama on his "spread the wealth" comment to that plumber. And point out we're all plumbers now.

Christopher Hitchens who supports Bush on the war came out for Obama/Biden. That makes one less columnist I have to read.

re: #66 Dianna

Then he's missing out.

CNN is hammering ACORN; Ayers has actually been mentioned.

Rumblings from the depths, perhaps, but I think this is going to blow up big.

I smell PUMA folks...no way this can/would happen otherwise.

re: #66 Dianna

They're just fumbling for a way to defuse these issues before the election.

re: #66 Dianna

Then he's missing out.

CNN is hammering ACORN; Ayers has actually been mentioned.

Rumblings from the depths, perhaps, but I think this is going to blow up big.

Because the MSM is really racist.

THey've been playing AS IF they are in the tank long enough that, when Mickey tells them to go southpaw, they can't be labelled racists.

They're very clever.

re: #76 HelloDare

Christopher Hitchens who supports Bush on the war came out for Obama/Biden. That makes one less columnist I have to read.

I am truly disappointed. I credited him with more discernment than that.

...then ask him why he thinks the redistribution of wealth is a good thing in a capitalist economy. Then ask him why he thinks infanticide is a good moral position. Then ask him if he thinks that America is a force for good or evil in the world today. Then ask him...

The Libtards are nervous about PA!

PITTSBURGH (AP) - U.S. Rep. John Murtha says his home base of western Pennsylvania is racist and that could reduce Barack Obama's victory margin in the state by 4 percentage points.
Link

We must VOTE no matter what goes down in the debate. IGNORE everything. the MSM, the Market , the Talking Heads, the Campaigns. Ignore everything. Don't let the MSM compromise your resolve.

VOTE for McCain/Palin

i live in a very nice subdivision in no. colorado--there is only 1 obama yard sign on my street and it is next door in a jewish drs yard. I just went to get the mail- and lo and behold--someone put up a huge humongous blow-up snowman! I know it wasn't the dr-- they never decorate for the holidays! i guess my other neighbors have a sense of humor!

re: #70 oh_dude

SWEEP THE LEG.

LMAO!

re: #43 bulwrk

For the love of God John stop with the "my friends"

BRAVO!

Hammer Obama on Iran, Ayers, Acorn, Fannie and Freddie, Rev. Wright, Taxes, Socialist Economic Policies, Iraq, and do it again and again and again.

re: #66 Dianna

Then he's missing out.
CNN is hammering ACORN; Ayers has actually been mentioned.
Rumblings from the depths, perhaps, but I think this is going to blow up big.

He was talking about the networks, the papers, the magazines, the stuff that reaches the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.

Where as cable TV is not a uncommon as it use to be, if you look at the viewership of any cable news channel, it's no where near network TV and the everyday outlets that people are used to getting their news from.

Just roll over John, and tuck in to avoid hits to the head. Protect the groin if you can. It will be over in an hour.

Hit Obama on Fannie and Freddie.

Hit the Democrats on their failed social engineering.

Blame your esteemed colleagues and good friends for the mess they have made.

Whatever you do, don't remind the American voters that 90+ % of Americans have jobs.

Feeling sick.

Because...it turns me on

._-=~:[ Funeral Oration, for a Dead Campaign ]:~=-_.

Friends, Americans, Fly-over-countrymen, lend me your earmarks!

Kindle them to burn upon crony capitalism's pyre, and give warning to the campaign of the Socialist abomination crawling the horizon!

Now, I will speak first of the Plague's ancestors, for it is right and seemly that now, when New Dealers are lamenting the chared heap of their General Socialist Enterprises, the GSE, a tribute should be refunded from their ill destiny.

There has never been a time when corrupt agenda did not infest this land,
whereby liberal academic poison, dripped down from generation to generation, has wrenched from rational men control of the commanding heights of the publicly-educated masses,

Even as they are eternally worthy of blame, still more were their fathers, who added to their incompetance, and after many a wretched spasm transmitted to us their entitlement disease upon this great republic.

And their dullard crusades to this day, writhed in the clutches of liberal guilt, have carried the impetus of incompetance further, and have graffitied our cities with foul things, so that they are intellectually insufficient both in economic peace and financial war.

Of the marshalled mental exploits by which our defenses were acquired, or of the energy with which we or our fathers drove back this tide of fools, academic barbarians, I will not speak; for the warnings of Von Mises and Von Hayek should be long familiar to you.

However, before we now raise again the battle standard, we shall point out by what principles of action we rise -- to power, and under what true institutions and through what real manner of life our republic becomes great.

For we conceive that critical thoughts, though absent in the diatribe of the Liberal, are not unsuited to any occasion, and that this numerous assembly of citizens and strangers may profitably listen to them.

Therefore, as the host of the Socialist abomination streaks forward wild-eyed to the coronation of their intellectual Emperor with no clothes,
bear in mind that history has witnessed, withstood, and broken such abject idiocy before, upon capitalist foundations no command economy can destroy.

Thus, when the Socialist leviathan of infinitely expanding government demands more taxes from you and your clan, more food from your plate, and more of your life's energy for their arbitrarily determined wages, cast out to them concrete examples of defiance, plunging their feather weight minds into the cool vast depths of free market perception.

Tell them all their foolish ideas have already been tried, even in, and especially in, developed first world nations (not just podunk Soviet borscht belts), via popular election, with the full power of representative government, and those ideas even then STILL failed rapidly and massively, like a toxic shock to a national economic body un-vaccinated against the rational expectations of the surrounding world and -- more importantly -- the expectations, desires, and dreams of its own citizens.

Tell them of the year 1981. Tell them of the ascendency of the 5th Republic, the popularly elected regime of the Socialist saviour, Mitterand, and of their collosal collective failure:

"The French Socialists began with the boldest drive in recent decades to implement "more state" in the industrial world ... Mitterand's program was an amalgam of Keynsian economic management, nationalization, and state control. But ideology would not be able to resist cold econmic realities." [YG]

(end part 1)

re: #66 Dianna

Then he's missing out.

CNN is hammering ACORN; Ayers has actually been mentioned.

Rumblings from the depths, perhaps, but I think this is going to blow up big.

I haven't watched CNN in awhile, but I guess late last week Hugh Hewitt or Laura Ingraham was using audio from one CNN segment that went more in-depth on the Ayers and ACORN accusations than '0bama was just a kid when Ayers was setting off those bombs'

re: #79 Ben Hur

I don't think the media is going to torpedo Obama (I wish), but I also remember how the media torpedoed the candidacy of their boy Howard Dean in 2004 over that "Scream." Which was nowhere near as bad as they made it out to be.

The media is extremely liberal, but sometimes it is also very conservative and doesn't like "new things." Maybe it will occur to them to do to Obama what they did to Dean. We can hope.

re: #78 joncelli

They're just fumbling for a way to defuse these issues before the election.

"Fumbling" being the operative word.

This is deadly stuff to most Americans. Fraud takes our votes away.

Too bad Acorn's aren't edible... John could snack on 'em during the debate... Maybe someone could make some candy acorns, like candy corn! A sweet conversation starter...

re: #15 joecitizen

he doesn't 'owe' us anything..but he put himself up in this position and he damn well better fight for it!

I disagree with you Joe, McCain ran for and managed to win the right to represent our party in the election for CEO of this country. A country paid for by the blood of our forefathers, our contemporaries, and John McCain himself. He owes his country freedom from socialism by virtue of taking representation. He owes the Founding Fathers fidelity to the principles that founded this country. When he took the nomination, he no longer belonged to himself, but to this country, for at least the term of office he serves. He becomes CEO, and a vassal to the Constitution.

McCain needs to mention what Jackson said about Israel.

Obama will retort that Jackson is not part of his campaign and doesn't know his views.

That will be an huge opening for McCain to bring in all of Obama's radical associations.

McCain can then ask Obama why Jackson would assume such policies? Is it because Jackson, knows Chicago politics and players. Jackson knows that if you are in the crowd of Wright and Ayres and if Farrakhan likes you, and you associate with PLO member Khalid Rashidi, then you most likely share their views.

This isn't an attack by McCain. It's just an explanation of what Jackson must be thinking.

re: #97 hillbilly geek

Too bad Acorn's aren't edible... John could snack on 'em during the debate... Maybe someone could make some candy acorns, like candy corn! A sweet conversation starter...

Or he could just lean across the table and offer some to The One!

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

I am truly disappointed. I credited him with more discernment than that.

I am disappointed and shocked. It makes no sense. Hitchens is and was such a strong defender of the Iraq War yet he is for the guy who would have handed victory to the enemy. It just doesn't make any sense.

Heavens, I can't even believe that I'm a writer when I read my posts, AFTER I HIT THE POST BUTTON.

Hell, I'm not worried about my typing, not when I'm fired up.

re: #89 Rednek

Hit Obama on Fannie and Freddie.

You know, in England that means something different all together.

“Madonna and Guy Ritchie have agreed to divorce after seven-and-a-half years of marriage, their representatives confirmed today.

“They have both requested that the media maintain respect for their family at this difficult time.”

Bwaaahhhhh! Did MAD ONNA respect Palin and her family? Does Madonna respect anything? Total Ho.

re: #98 maddogg

I disagree with you Joe, McCain ran for and managed to win the right to represent our party in the election for CEO of this country. A country paid for by the blood of our forefathers, our contemporaries, and John McCain himself. He owes his country freedom from socialism by virtue of taking representation. He owes the Founding Fathers fidelity to the principles that founded this country. When he took the nomination, he no longer belonged to himself, but to this country, for at least the term of office he serves. He becomes CEO, and a vassal to the Constitution.

I think that's pretty much what I said..heh

(start part 2)

"Mitterand and his associates were determined to assert government sway over the economy. They launched a broad set of measures intended to stimulate the economy out of its sluggishness ... At the same time, the state increased its control and coordination of the major industries to ensure that they acted in the "right way".

"It nationalized banks (96% of deposits) and many large industrial corporations, and took controlling interest in many other companies. It vastly increased social spending, cut an hour from the work week with no loss of pay, increased paid vacations from four to five weeks, and hired another hundred thousand government workers."

"This program of public spending and nationalization, along with increased taxes on high incomes, became known as la relance -- or "the relaunching".

"But la relance immediately set off widespread panic in the capital markets, leading to continued assults on the value of the French currency. Instead of stimulating growth, la relance bred inflation, stimulated capital flight, and drained money out of the treasury."

"Unemployment increased dramatically. The newly nationalized industries were losing enormous amounts of money, contributing mightily to the swelling budget defecit. France was heading for bankruptcy, and the Socialists for disaster."

Tell them Socialism DOES NOT WORK.

Tell them the fundamental flaw of Socialism: There is no efficient price function. Only a free market can establish price efficiently. Any government attempts to set prices will ALWAYS fail; whether or not it be prices for grain, medical care, mortgage debt, or, Lord help us, Moon Pies.

For the Republican candidate to become Commander-in-Chief,

Call out your enemy, rekindle confidence in the base, inspire swing voters, and terrify enough of the foe into crossing the line, by storming talk radio, major conservative blogs, and planting a stake into the ground declaring:

"I shall reduce the size of the government, lower taxes, cut spending, fire lazy government workers, break the teacher's unions, destroy tenure, eliminate state ownership and subsidy of mortgage lending institutions and banks, divide thoroughly corrupt political orgy ridden states like California (the largest contributor to the global mortgage-debt nightmare) into three separate electoral college regions, and reduce term limits in Congress to a single term."

Then, and only then, by burying the enemy's campaign, and no longer your own, you will win.

[YG] Yergin, Stanislaw, The Commanding Heights, The Battle For The World Economy, 2002, NY, NY.

(end part 2)

Sadly I am going to miss the debate. We have our monthly VFW meeting and have some serious (money) issues to discuss.

re: #80 goddessoftheclassroom

I am truly disappointed. I credited him with more discernment than that.

I bow to no one in my slavish adoration of Hitchens, he cannot be relied on when someone promises Marxist sounding stuff. Because he is a Marxist.