Final Presidential Debate 2008, Thread 4
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Politics | Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:50:30 pm PDT
The comment threads are filling up faster than we can post ‘em. Here’s another one for the final Presidential Debate of the 2008 election.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:52:18pm |
Doesn't Obama know that you have to start somewhere?
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Lee Coller Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:52:52pm |
Let's see if he claims he has traveled south of the border.
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CynicalConservative Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:07pm |
He seems strong and fearless, where has this man been?
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:29pm |
I'm so thrilled by John's attack tonite. Look at him go.
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HelloDare Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:48pm |
Obama just stepped in it again. If only the press would follow this stuff up.
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rw in san diego Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:53pm |
That got a rise out of McCain's eyebrows!
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:53:54pm |
O sounded like such a dope with his wind and solar garbage next to Mac's proposal.
It is hard for me to believe that O was a lawyer. He cannot talk his way out of a paper bag.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:02pm |
mccain caught o on his deceptive "eloquence"
he said o would "look at off shore drilling"
mccain says why look at it, we can DO it now.
lol
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:08pm |
If Obama the socialist visits a country south of the border, it will only be Venezuela.
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:08pm |
"We have to make sure" -- you tentative little puppy
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:19pm |
JM needs to keep mentioning the re-distribution of wealth is a core socialism belief. Bring up the S word. Mention that all terrorist entities and communist groups back Obama. Why would they be doing that?
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zombie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:28pm |
re: #18 HelloDare
Obama just stepped in it again. If only the press would follow this stuff up.
The blogosphere will decimate every statement by Obama.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:29pm |
Ah, so Obama is in favor of free trade with Colombia, once all the violence in Colombia disappears. And then, our unicorn export business will boom.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:32pm |
Zero is going to make a terrible error before this is over... he's already tired and punchdrunk...
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Shug Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:37pm |
Obama looks like the patriots after they lost Tom Brady
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Jetpilot1101 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:39pm |
Obama is all over the place. I can't follow anything he says.
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Pullus Iulius Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:42pm |
re: #14 zombie
Zombie- I'm following this exclusively on comments - no audio, no video. The narrative is unparalleled.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:45pm |
Has The One taken debating lessons from Shatner?
"Obama's log... on energy.... to hold them.... responsible..."
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LSD Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:49pm |
If any asshole comments that John ain't doin enough I'm gonna reach through your screen and cold-cock yer noggin'
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Racer X Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:54:59pm |
Colombian labor leader assassinations is bullshit.
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:01pm |
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Neo Con since 9-11 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:04pm |
I just realized how Obama is doing so well in these debates with out a teleprompter. He's simply listening to McCain's answer, writing it down, and paraphrasing it back. If you listen to questions Obama has to answer first he kind of wanders aimlessly. The questions Obama gets to answer second, he is quite eloquent, only problem is Obama says the exact same thing McCain has just said.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:25pm |
obama stumbling. pretending we can't have free grade because some goons in so. america may attack workers.
why doesn't he worry abt. the crime in chicago.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:31pm |
So, the government will design a really, really good car, and then spend taxpayer money to build it. Brilliant!
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reine.de.tout Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:33pm |
re: #19 zombie
Good. Obama talking about a meaningless peripheral issue.
Yes. I couldn't figure what happened to the discussion, but yes, that is what happened.
"We can create" jobs.
Who? He's gonna tax away all the money that would be used to pay those people.
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:42pm |
The funny part of this is that I'm not even a McCain supporter. But I still prefer America to Amerika.
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alien_mind Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:55:53pm |
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:07pm |
SMACK
Iran w/o preconditions.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:08pm |
re: #37 Racer X
Colombian labor leader assassinations is bullshit.
It's declined under Uribe, of course. But Barry won't say that.
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Sharmuta Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:10pm |
I don't know what's more frustrating- 0bama's lies or getting the page to load on LGF.
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jaunte Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:17pm |
Obama's energy plan is based on that elusive 100mpg carburetor he's heard the big car companies keep hidden.
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Syrah Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:18pm |
Obama is in love with government compulsion.
With an imperious wave of his hand he can MAKE the care companies produce magic cars.
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Palandine Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:18pm |
re: The Messiah's ear-thingies
I think his ears are just shiny on the insides.
/And there's a lot of insides to be shiny
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rw in san diego Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:21pm |
Go get him, John! Obama DID say he'd sit down with Hugo Chavez without precondition.
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:30pm |
How does Obama figure that Detroit auto companies will create new jobs if they're being taxed to holy hell?
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gibsonz Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:38pm |
Obama without his talking points is as lost as a child in Disney without a hand to hold!
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:40pm |
Hoover, free trade restrictions and Depression.....nicely done.
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summergurl Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:41pm |
Hey - I'm not drunk yet - John hasn't told me I'm his friend..
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:48pm |
re: #48 Catttt
What the fuck did Barry just say?
Uh... ah... I believe... my plan... er... ah.
Got it?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:48pm |
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zombie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:49pm |
re: #37 Racer X
Colombian labor leader assassinations is bullshit.
"labor leaders" = Marxist "community organizers"
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:49pm |
re: #39 Neo Con since 9-11
I just realized how Obama is doing so well in these debates with out a teleprompter. He's simply listening to McCain's answer, writing it down, and paraphrasing it back. If you listen to questions Obama has to answer first he kind of wanders aimlessly. The questions Obama gets to answer second, he is quite eloquent, only problem is Obama says the exact same thing McCain has just said.
You are exactly right. He spends half his time saying "that's a very good question" and repeating it. I noticed it in the last debate.
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:56:54pm |
Um - I didn't mean that to be off color, for those of you with dirty minds (and yes, I do have a dirty mind).
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Optimizer Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:06pm |
Is it just me, or does the moderator change the topic after McCain scores a good point?
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:09pm |
re: #57 Palandine
re: The Messiah's ear-thingies
I think his ears are just shiny on the insides.
/And there's a lot of insides to be shiny
I think you're right -- there is nothing in his ears, there is just reflection from the studio lights
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:10pm |
mccain putting o and hugo together.
oh yeah.
o wants to restrict trade and raise taxes.
oooh shcifer tries to cut off mccain when he really hits a solid blow on the o.
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Racer X Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:12pm |
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:13pm |
Are either of these ladies that were laid off a plummer?
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rw in san diego Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:19pm |
Health care will really break our hearts if we allow the government to take over.
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zombie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:32pm |
Oh, copying the reaganesque anecdote technique again. Hackneyed, Barry!
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Pullus Iulius Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:34pm |
re: #54 Sharmuta
I don't know what's more frustrating- 0bama's lies or getting the page to load on LGF.
It's the lies. At least LGF will load fine in the morning.
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neocon hippie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:39pm |
I can't stand that arrogant smirk/laugh. And I imagine some viewers will be turned off by The One's bloated attitude.
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legalpad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:40pm |
I wish he'd included that Sarah as commander of the 49th Missile Defense Battalion - always on duty. And more executive experience than everyone in the race.
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witness Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:42pm |
Well one thing for sure. The next few weeks will be entertaining.
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unclassifiable Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:56pm |
Obama's smile is hiding the pain in his ass.
Keep kicking John.
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Jetpilot1101 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:57pm |
If he cut my premium by 2500 a year, I'd get a check for 2000. Yipee!
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Racer X Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:57:59pm |
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pink freud Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:02pm |
"health care, the issue that will break your heart over and over again..."
- obama
/i'm cryin', i tell ya
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:02pm |
Man, I just cussed Barry out. Good thing my next-door neighbor is almost never home.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:05pm |
Every time Obama opens his yap, I wanna hit the mute button.
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maddogg Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:08pm |
Obama, telling a sad story, Boo Hoo. Must be a pitch for socialized medicine. Fuck that Chairman Zero.
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:12pm |
re: #86 Pullus Iulius
It's the lies. At least LGF will load fine in the morning.
The lies will be with us always
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:12pm |
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:25pm |
Oh, goody, a fake anecdote about pathetic people.
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:32pm |
re: #41 nyc redneck
obama stumbling. pretending we can't have free grade because some goons in so. america may attack workers.
why doesn't he worry abt. the crime in chicago.
Didn't you hear? The US is pulling out of Chicago.
/
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Jetpilot1101 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:34pm |
You can't give everyone Tricare (government healthcare plan which is awesome) you moron because it would bankrupt this country in under a week.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:39pm |
o and his health care plan.
2500 dollar cut for families per yr. and now we get the good health insurance o gets.
he is going to give that to ALL of us.
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rw in san diego Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:40pm |
Obama's health care plan...Spread the misery as well as the wealth.
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David Simon Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:40pm |
Where's the money going to come from from your health care plan, Barry?
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spidly Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:40pm |
giving business the option to dump healthcare off onto an initially gold plated government system that turns to shit in 2 years
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:41pm |
Lets make our medical care system just like the well run system that Great Brittain has!
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jaunte Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:46pm |
Healthcare: more load on the system automatically equals lower costs? WTF?
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:46pm |
I keep wanting to grab Barry by the ear and drag him down to the assistant principal's office for a little talkin' to.
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CheatyPantsMcSweatervest Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:53pm |
The politics of failure have failed.
We must make them work again!
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Salem Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:58:58pm |
I wouldn't get too worked up. This debate isn't going to make a big splash either way.
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:08pm |
Excuse me, is Bambi sweating? He looks a little rattled to me.
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newsjunkie_ky Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:16pm |
My kids pay for their own health insurance.
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devil in baggy pants Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:21pm |
I'll give McCain $100 TONIGHT
IF
he says "tort reform" re healthcare.
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:26pm |
It IS funny how the old man keeps cutting off McCain's attacks but allows the S-man to ramble.
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x-wing Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:33pm |
I like that Johns getting the last word more tonight
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:38pm |
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Spellcheck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:41pm |
Isn't Hillary supposed to be in the audience tonight? She must be chewing her tongue off listening to this Democrat joke.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:44pm |
I've seen government-run public housing. I'm not interested in government-run public health care.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:51pm |
Let me respond.
Translation: stand back and take cover, because I'm going to let another whopper fly!
/if Lord President For Life Obama had a nose like Pinocchio, we could walk to Mars by now, he would never have even made it out of the primaries
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:55pm |
re: #116 doppelganglander
Excuse me, is Bambi sweating? He looks a little rattled to me.
Remember the flames around Quimby in the Simpsons?
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zombie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 6:59:57pm |
Doing the camera-look again. No one's falling for it!re: #79 guzziguy
BHO = Barak Hoover Obama
Nice!
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gmsc Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:05pm |
re: #56 Syrah
Obama is in love with government compulsion.
With an imperious wave of his hand he can MAKE the care companies produce magic cars.
And if they can't? Why, that's a failure of capitalism!
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Sharmuta Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:10pm |
I'm so glad they brought up healthcare- not. My vote is not dependent on healthcare, but I suppose it should since this election is making me ill.
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witness Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:13pm |
I just realized something that sums up the whole BHO-shit story.
He's wearing the flag pin.
Please someone put up a website or video highlighting every flip flop this asshole has done during this election.
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Oldasdirt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:17pm |
Barry either has a lazy eye or he is stoned,,does anyone else see that?
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:19pm |
McCain's $5000 tax credit for healthcare would nearly pay for my coverage.
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ClosetConservative Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:24pm |
Yeah! Joe the Plumber again!
Haha, that's kinda funny. I feel bad for the guy. He's getting so much attention.
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The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:26pm |
Is it just me, or am I the only one who hates that fake grey hair BO has...is it suppoed to make him look more disguinished?
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:28pm |
Is BHO's forehead looking a little bit shiny? Do his furrows contain more than a few drops of sweat? Could his hair actually be turning silver underneath all that faux-gravitas dye?
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jcm Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:30pm |
WA state mandated coverage for pre-existing conditions.
Individual policies became impossible to get, people abuse it. Get sick, buy insurance, get treatment, then drop the policy till they got sick again.
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astronmr20 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:34pm |
re: #71 zombie
"labor leaders" = Marxist "community organizers"
You got it. He sure is plugged into that stuff. The speed at which he snapped over to that topic when he heard about the country Colombia is very telling.
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Syrah Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:36pm |
Ah. . . John. . . Don't try to out welfare pimp a leftist. It does not work.
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:47pm |
Trashing Barry's health care - national health.
Barry - is TOTALLY stuttering.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:47pm |
WTF? Is Joe the Plumber McCain's running mate?
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:57pm |
re: #132 Sharmuta
I'm so glad they brought up healthcare- not. My vote is not dependent on healthcare, but I suppose it should since this election is making me ill.
good one.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:00:58pm |
The fine will be less than the cost of insurance so that employers will drop their coverage and default to the government's system.
Ouch--England & Canada.
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:00pm |
re: #128 Badge of Kaffir Pride
Remember the flames around Quimby in the Simpsons?
Mostly I remember the girls. Vera, is that you?
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mattm Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:03pm |
McCain call out Obama on his health care plan, Obama studders.
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Cartman Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:04pm |
The smirk should have been the code to drink tonight.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:05pm |
mccain
5000 refundable health credit.
joe the plumber will get a fine from o if he doesn't get health care.
uh oh.
o wants to socialize the system. like canada and england.
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Intrepid Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:06pm |
We love Joe the Plumber. I wish we could spell "JtP's" last name, but as of now his last name is "the Plumber".
heh.
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astronmr20 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:19pm |
"Zero?"
So whats the definition of small businesses, Obama?
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conrad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:19pm |
Save the budget by spending government funds to solve huge problems instead of encouraging investment in the private investment of solutions. Yup, big 0 only believes in government, not the people.
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Dark_Falcon Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:22pm |
re: #82 Syrah
Obama = Hoover.
Good.
Stay on Target! Stay on Target!
Just watch out for Darth Bama on your six.
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:23pm |
He never said a flipping word about 'exempting businesses"
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DM Glampers Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:24pm |
re: #17 Syrah
Are economics taught in Highschool?
NO. If it wasn't taught when I went, it certainly isn't now. That's why I'll begin to teach my son (10) beginning very soon along with other conveniently forgotten bits of history and the philosophy of thinkers that inspired our founding fathers, not the bovine fertilizer passing for education these days.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:25pm |
Keep sneering Obama. Keep sneering. Very becoming. You are winning me over.
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legalpad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:27pm |
Interrupting Obambi! Plumber heard all he need's to hear from you !
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pink freud Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:32pm |
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anotherindyfilmguy Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:34pm |
Biggest Lie straight to the camera!
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zombie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:36pm |
Now Obama is bogging down on explaining socialized medicine. Blunder.
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Lee Coller Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:37pm |
I hate the term "refundable tax credit" why not call it what it is, a handout.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:38pm |
Barry is exposing a chin right now... get 'im John
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David Simon Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:40pm |
re: #111 jaunte
Healthcare: more load on the system automatically equals lower costs? WTF?
If you haven't read his health care plan yet, check it out on his website. The new reporting requirements and new agencies it will take to provide oversight are mind-boggling.
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rw in san diego Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:43pm |
McCain looks stunned....is he just realizing what a liar Obama is?
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Ozark Mountain Daredevil Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:47pm |
I'm switching over during commercials during the baseball game. Every time I do when McCain is talking Obama looks like a smug, condescending asshole.
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bcgirl Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:49pm |
obama how will i pay for the insurance when i cannot affored it now, and NEVER have, my employer has only 15 employees and does not provide an insurance program,, please tell me when you raise my taxes, (but i do only make 30k) how will i pay the fine or buy the incsurance?
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Fat Jolly Penguin Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:51pm |
I'm just listening -- I can't stand to watch The ONE anymore. He has the whole looking-down-the-nose thing down pat. And the condescending smirks? Gag me with a fork.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:53pm |
McCains' doing a little better tonight. But is it enough?
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:01:53pm |
re: #135 Sleepyone
McCain's $5000 tax credit for healthcare would nearly pay for my coverage.
I'd have extra money
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:00pm |
O is absolutely losing his cool! Can't wait for CNN to announce that Obama 'slightly edged' McCain tonight, 65-35.
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saberry0530 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:05pm |
IF you like the Lines at the DMV, then you will love The o's health care system.
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:13pm |
Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn. Barry's health plan. Huh?
Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn.
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Shug Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:15pm |
Joe,
We love you.
Signed,
The Presidential Candidates
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Occasional Reader Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:21pm |
re: #143 astronmr20
You got it. He sure is plugged into that stuff. The speed at which he snapped over to that topic when he heard about the country Colombia is very telling.
This was the standard-issue Dem talking point for trying to kill Colombia free trade.
It's pathetic.
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:22pm |
We're paying higher premiums because we are forced to accept coverage for things we are never going to need. I don't need maternity coverage -- I'm nearly 46 years old, damn it. Why am I paying for that?
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Bos2112 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:28pm |
wow- i bet Joe had NO idea he would be having so many convos with these guys
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Sharmuta Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:37pm |
Joe the plumber is the October surprise.
SURPRISE! You have to deal with Joe the Plumber- a.k.a. the Average American.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:38pm |
o just talking the wind up toy medical care plan.
i'm not happy w/ the fine o is going to charge me.
that's scary.
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Charles Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:40pm |
This shall be henceforth known as the "Joe the Plumber" debate.
Apologies to Joe.
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x-wing Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:43pm |
That's it Barry force employers to give health ins. And you want to keep jobs over here. Riiiight.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:44pm |
Obama just jumps in while McCain is delivering his response, and the moderator lets him get away with it.
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Siberian Khatru Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:49pm |
re: #32 Badge of Kaffir Pride
Has The One taken debating lessons from Shatner?
"Obama's log... on energy.... to hold them.... responsible..."
That's what happens when he gets forced off his memorized flash cards and has to come up with an original thought.
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witness Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:51pm |
re: #130 Catttt
Red tie and flag pin do not a President make
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Palandine Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:55pm |
re: #140 MandyManners
Is BHO's forehead looking a little bit shiny? Do his furrows contain more than a few drops of sweat? Could his hair actually be turning silver underneath all that faux-gravitas dye?
His lips are gray.
/Need to cut back on the cigs
//and release your medical records
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TheMatrix31 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:58pm |
Yay! Let's trust the government to give us healthcare packages!
THAT IS SOCIALISM.
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Optimizer Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:59pm |
I'll bet Joe the Plumber didn't realize he was the most important person in the country...
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mattm Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:02:59pm |
CNN not Buying Obamas explination of McCain as much.
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conrad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:09pm |
Hey 0bama, way to confuse and bore people at the same time! WHEEEEE...I DIDN'T KNOW YOU COULD MULTI-TASK.
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:10pm |
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PAgirlinNC Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:12pm |
Ok, so we all have the same health care that senators have. That means that the costs go UP because the system is overloaded and it can't handle the load; costs do not go down...
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:13pm |
re: #177 skree
I'd have extra money
I'm envious. Being self-employed my coverage for the whole family is pretty high.
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zombie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:24pm |
Barry, to the Left you say "YAY! Socialized medicine!" To the mainstream, you say, "Yay! Semi-socialized medicine!"
Barry, there is no such there as a half-way revolution.
it's single-payer or nothing. Which is it?
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:25pm |
Is there any truth to McCain planning to tax insurance benefits?
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ArmyWife Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:26pm |
Barry? COBRA. For 18 months, your poor plant workers can get health care at group rates. In that 18 months, I suggest they get a job. They got laid off at the plant, however, because their damn union make them uncompetitive.
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Bobibutu Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:48pm |
{DRUDGE POLL} WHO WON THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...
MCCAIN
64% 122
OBAMA
34% 64
NEITHER
2% 4
Total Votes: 190
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{DRUDGE POLL} WHO WON THE FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...
MCCAIN
74% 4,059
OBAMA
24% 1,301
NEITHER
2% 101
Total Votes: 5,461
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Colonel Panik Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:03:48pm |
The cam and mike for this "mogulus" feed is a gazillion miles away from either Senator McCain or the Messiah. I get better results with the standalone real player off the CSPAN page.
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rosh Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:01pm |
"I wanna talk to Joe too"
"I have a bracelet too"
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:03pm |
McCain's got that grinchy glint in his eye -- he's going for blood.
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skree Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:06pm |
re: #205 Sleepyone
I'm envious. Being self-employed my coverage for the whole family is pretty high.
I can put you on my insurance
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sojerofgod Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:06pm |
Obama says "Joe, If you want to do the right thing by your employees you will give them health care" Well what if Joe is a small business and can't afford that? Obama will have you fined? flogged? Pilloried and put out of business because you didn't do "the right thing" in his eyes?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:09pm |
And Joe the Plumber just made Obama, on air, change his health plan which now offers a credit where no credit was offered before. I think.
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Palandine Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:14pm |
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:14pm |
The plumber should change the name of his business to "Joe the Plumber". He's definitely going to be a different tax bracket after this free advertising.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:15pm |
o is going to make everyone wait for care in a socialized system that will be inferior anyway.
gov't workers will lose incentive as care givers. look at england.
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:30pm |
Plumbers across the country deciding to vote for McCain........
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astronmr20 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:33pm |
re: #184 Occasional Reader
This was the standard-issue Dem talking point for trying to kill Colombia free trade.
It's pathetic.
Didn't know that. Well, that says a lot about the dems!
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Pullus Iulius Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:35pm |
My wife just turned the tube off with a half hour left in the debate. I think that means the beast must not be doing so hot.
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:46pm |
re: #198 Palandine
His lips are gray.
/Need to cut back on the cigs
//and release your medical records
Isn't that normal? Isn't it just a factor of his heritage?
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mattm Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:46pm |
Thank you Joe! Without you Obama would not be in this position. CNN followers not buying this though.
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:50pm |
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HelloDare Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:04:51pm |
Joe the Plumber should come out with
Joe the Plumber Leisure Wear.
Start that business instead of plumbing.
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Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:00pm |
I like Joe the Plumber. I wanna buy him a beer.
/or maybe he should buy me one, since he's a rich bastard...
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QueenEsther Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:03pm |
late to the game - been watching from the gym. News flash to Barry: The Chicago Tribune hasn't been "Republican-leaning" for decades.
Go McCain!
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ClosetConservative Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:15pm |
Obama clearly had no respect for personal responsibility. You're SUPPOSED to get a health care plan when you're young.
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ArmyWife Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:16pm |
re: #209 Who Watches the Watchmen?
Yes - its sort of a give with one hand, take with another. BUT employers will most likely make it up in salary, because honestly, that is what they do now. They take money from your base to pay "their portion" of your benefits.
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David IV of Georgia Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:18pm |
The last time I had major surgery, I had no insurance. I managed to pay for it once I went back to work. Killed my savings, but I paid for it.
$12,000/yr — who pays that? Cancerous smoking diabetics with heart conditions?
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Badge of Kaffir Pride Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:38pm |
Senator Government is freaking hilarious! (spew warning)
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guzziguy Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:38pm |
There's soon going to be a nation-wide plumbing company named, "Joe the Plumber"
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:44pm |
re: #192 Charles
This shall be henceforth known as the "Joe the Plumber" debate.
Apologies to Joe.
No. KUDOS TO JOE!
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conrad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:05:49pm |
I am smiling for the first time in months! Go get him John.
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Crimsonfisted Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:09pm |
Senator Government. I love it. That is a bumpersticker. A misspeak, but PERFECT.
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J.D. Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:10pm |
Holy moly, it takes forever to get on here tonight.
I forgot what I wanted to say.
But anyway,
GO JOHN McCAIN!
He has exceeded my expectations this time!
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:10pm |
re: #230 MandyManners
Isn't that normal? Isn't it just a factor of his heritage?
He's got those Ricky Ricardo lips. I always thought it was due to excessive cigar smoking.
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:12pm |
re: #231 mattm
Thank you Joe! Without you Obama would not be in this position. CNN followers not buying this though.
Oh, fuck CNN.
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Racer X Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:18pm |
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:20pm |
I'm more terrified than ever about the next 30 years of Emperor Obama. Tonight is like watching Kirk trick an "infallible" computer on Star Trek.
BTW- here comes the moderator cutting off McCain again!
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Optimizer Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:21pm |
re: #192 Charles
If McCain wins, ol' Joe may have to rename the business...
If Obama wins, he may need to flee the country.
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Killian Bundy Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:24pm |
SENATOR GOVERNMENT!
/easily the best line of the night, even if it was a verbal slip
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kham Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:26pm |
I predict Joe the Plummer is going to be on every morning news show tomorrow
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Boogberg Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:27pm |
$12,000 a year for health insurance? Bullshit!
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doppelganglander Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:28pm |
Yes, let US choose the coverage WE want! And good job bringing in the poor performance of Congress in the last 2 years.
And what the hell makes them think any employer would continue to offer a health plan when they can shirk the responsibility in favor of the government? Idiot.
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astronmr20 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:32pm |
I dont get it. How would I lose my employer-based benefits under McCain's plan?
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David IV of Georgia Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:35pm |
"Senator Government, err, Senator Obama...." —McCain.
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conrad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:35pm |
Hey 0bama, don't interrupt. Adults are talking.
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:40pm |
mccain has lots of good come back punches and lots of good lead off punches.
schiewfer just cut off mccain again.
what a lousy ref.
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Idle Drifter Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:41pm |
Keep attacking Big Brother Big Governemtn, Senator McCain! I love it!
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reine.de.tout Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:44pm |
I was going to skip this and watch the finale of Project Runway, but I'm glad I went ahead and watched this.
I'm really just trying to refresh for new comments.
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mattm Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:45pm |
CNN viewers are not buying what Obama is saying.
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Catttt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:06:47pm |
Barry thinks that FICA is not a tax. It walks like a tax, and it quacks like a tax.
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jorline Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:08pm |
McCain's off on health care cost...mine cost me $13,650 a year...not $5800.
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mama winger Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:18pm |
I Am Joe The Plumber
[Link: www.zazzle.com...]
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Killian Bundy Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:35pm |
re: #192 Charles
This shall be henceforth known as the "Joe the Plumber" debate.
Apologies to Joe.
Let's hope so.
/because McCain wins that one
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:47pm |
re: #253 Sleepyone
He's got those Ricky Ricardo lips. I always thought it was due to excessive cigar smoking.
I was raised in the South, and have seen many variations on color when it comes to people. It's just the surface, folks.
THE CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER!
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Palandine Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:07:50pm |
re: #230 MandyManners
Isn't that normal? Isn't it just a factor of his heritage?
Could be. That probably wasn't fair.
Although there's something passing strange about the fact that someone as busted up as McCain released every record, and Obama, who's supposedly the picture of health, just released a note from his doctor.
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bcgirl Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:08:05pm |
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Jimash Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:08:11pm |
re: #37 Racer X
Colombian labor leader assassinations is bullshit.
I thought so too.
Does he mean FARCs ?
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Optimizer Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:08:36pm |
Roe vs Wade; SCOTUS.
zzzzz
/Sorry, guys, it just makes for lousy, predictable, and not credible, discussion.
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nobamadada Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:08:41pm |
Cant wait to see which judges obama would nominate!
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gmsc Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:09:04pm |
re: #271 mattm
CNN viewers are not buying what Obama is saying.
That just means that CNN has to say that Obama won by a slimmer margin.
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badtemper Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:09:58pm |
What the hell do you know about morals, Barak?
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Oldasdirt Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:01pm |
John,just called Barry "senator government"...,,I love it..
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:20pm |
re: #278 MandyManners
I was raised in the South, and have seen many variations on color when it comes to people. It's just the surface, folks.
THE CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER!
Yah, I know. I was just joking. But Ricardo's lips always looked odd to me.
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:21pm |
This is where McCain should come after the snuffing out of babies that survive an attempted abortion. What would O do if one of his daughters were that child?
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ironbill Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:24pm |
Wait... I thought this was above your pay grade?
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:30pm |
re: #279 Palandine
Could be. That probably wasn't fair.
Although there's something passing strange about the fact that someone as busted up as McCain released every record, and Obama, who's supposedly the picture of health, just released a note from his doctor.
Now *THAT* makes me wonder.
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Optimizer Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:41pm |
Obama talking, talking, talking...
See what I mean?
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alien_mind Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:46pm |
re: #271 mattm
CNN viewers are not buying what Obama is saying.
who gives a shit what cnn viewers are buying?
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ClosetConservative Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:10:55pm |
Obama just effed up MAJORLY. How can he say that he wants to use his IDEOLOGY to judge candidates for the highest court in the land rather than qualifications?
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nyc redneck Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:11pm |
roe vs wade.
mccain says the states should make the decisions.
scotus. mccain says elections have consequences.
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Carolina Kathy Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:24pm |
My husband is supposed to drink when McCain says 'My Friends' and he's sober - so I think McCain got the message. Last debate I was afraid he'd have alcohol poisoning.
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conrad Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:11:52pm |
Hey Barry; no litmus test? Ask your supporters if they agree with you. If any minority doesn't want to vote for you, they are considered traitors by your supporters. If a radio talk show brings on a speaker you do not agree with, your campaign demands the shows removal. If a pundit speaks against you, your campaign went to the justice department fer cryin' out loud. You are a walking litmus test.
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ClosetConservative Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:12:01pm |
Wait a minute- did Obama just say that he wants the Senate to have a hand in what goes on in a sitting court? That's pathetic!
Really?
Really?
Really?
What happened to the three branches of government?
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Jimash Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:12:03pm |
re: #255 MandyManners
Oh, fuck CNN.
CNN's graphic serves the purposes of leading you like the ringers in the Asch experiment in Zombie's Master Post.
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MandyManners Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:12:17pm |
re: #292 Sleepyone
Yah, I know. I was just joking. But Ricardo's lips always looked odd to me.
FWIW, Lucy liked them.
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Sleepyone Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:13:01pm |
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eaglewingz08 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:01pm |
There was no law. It was not the law. There was testimony.
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bcgirl Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:14:21pm |
obama is now lying about the infiancide liar liar liar liar liar and the frickin proof is out there
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ClosetConservative Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:15pm |
Ha, yes! Get him on allowing infants to die!
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ironbill Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:23pm |
"I'm willing to vote present..."
Character counts
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sojerofgod Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:15:26pm |
re: #171 devil in baggy pants
Wouldn't it be ironic if Joe the plumber saved McCain's campaign?
I think if I were him, I'd send him a box of cigars.
Plus some suspenders: You all know how bad Plumber's crack can get. A major malady of the trade.
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eaglewingz08 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:16:54pm |
Teacher's Union/ Dem perfidy. Charter schools?
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nobamadada Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:15pm |
re: #317 sojerofgod
Wouldn't it be ironic if Joe the plumber saved McCain's campaign?
I think if I were him, I'd send him a box of cigars.Plus some suspenders: You all know how bad Plumber's crack can get. A major malady of the trade.
If you think that is possible you are living in a dream world.
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jmf10003 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:16pm |
barry is like the old jon lovitz character, pathological liar man. now he's pro-life? it's as though he's in support of anything and everything once a camera is stuck in his face. "yeah... that's the ticket."
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ironbill Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:23pm |
15 minutes. Keep at em Mac. A whole lot is dependin' on tonight.
(new question is Ayers bait. Grab it Johnny)
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nobamadada Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:17:55pm |
re: #320 nobamadada
If you think that is possible you are living in a dream world.
but a box of cigars would be a nice gesture.
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luxiegenie Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:18:18pm |
EVERYONE needs to forward this to EVERYONE you know:
[Link: www.zombietime.com...]
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ironbill Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:18:33pm |
Channeling Johnny [Annenburg... Annenburg... Annenburg...]
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eaglewingz08 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:18:36pm |
McCain has to hit on the CAC and his radical education policies, when he had the chance Obama chose indoctrination over Science and Math.
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eaglewingz08 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:19:39pm |
Choice and competition, charter schools! Excellent
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Airborn Swine Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:20:34pm |
Come on John, this is a hanging fastball. Nail him in 150 million in wasted money for no results in the Anenburg Challenge. This could be a walk off grand slam...
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Syrah Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:20:37pm |
If "more money" was the solution, we would already have the best educated kids on the planet.
I can tell you that I have had to turn down applicants for a job because they could not read and they could not spell. It is a very simple and minimal test, but about half of the applicants that come through our doors fail that test.
It is heartbreaking.
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Rev. Churchmouse Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:25:14pm |
re: #325 ironbill
Channeling Johnny [Annenburg... Annenburg... Annenburg...]
How could John miss this?
Senator Obama has a history of education reform:
Send them radical agitators recommended by a washed up terorist bomber who believes they need to teach children to oppose their racist oppresive government.
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SFGoth Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:30:37pm |
Well he did a lot better, but he interrupted too much. How do you deal with a guy who flat out lies?
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eaglewingz08 Wed, Oct 15, 2008 7:32:34pm |
Excellent for McCain. Joe Sixpack Plumber and Senator Government. Perfect.
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