Who's this guy and what has he done with McCain?

Obama is really looking like a spoiled little rich kid tonight.

How is it going?

DEMOCRATS in congress

"Y'all just heard my plan."

Senator Government. HAHA!

DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS!

Plumbers rock!

LOL McCain just accidentally called him Sen. Government.

I think Johnny Mac decided he had better show up for this one.

"Senator government"!

Brilliant!

Name names! Pelosi, Reid, Dodd... say it!

Every time McCain gets that look another punch follows.

Abortion !

re: #2 Jetpilot1101

Obama is really looking like a spoiled little rich kid tonight.

Just tonight?

re: #1 Killgore Trout

LOL! Ain't that the truth?

Please bring up the Born Alive Infant's Protection Act.

No litmus test!

Good answer, John.

No litmus test for McCain.

People might be ProChoice but not many are pro infanticide.

John has done his homework for this one.

Am I biased or is the moderator a little more favorable to Obama?

I think McCain loses the healthcare "easy vote" because of the complexity of the employer based healthcare issue since WWII

wish we could lose the amazon and other ads for threads like these. (sigh) ;-)>

Federalism!

He voted for liberal Justices.

Got Federalism? Why yes, yes we do...

re: #11 zombie

The line of the century

McCain emphasizing his fairness.

Excellent.

He just called Barry a wussie, sort of

My wife is watching in the other room. I can't stand to watch so here I am. Your grades on each so far would be appreciated.

re: #18 HelloDare

Please bring up the Born Alive Infant's Protection Act.

That would be the DEATH KNELL for Senator Govt.

I Am Joe the Plumber

[Link: www.zazzle.com...]

re: #25 rw in san diego

Am I biased or is the moderator a little more favorable to Obama?

It's Bob Schieffer. What do you expect?

re: #13 taxfreekiller

Drudge now at 74% McCain.

Now, when Obama does conceed Nov. 5th we keep him up to fight and keep Hildie Beast off her game.

You go Joe the plumber.

Is Drudge a partisan site? I never check it.

No litmus test! Strict constitutionalist! Excellent.

Posting less now, because I'm cleaning my shotgun.

(And clinging to it, bitterly)

McCain: Consider the qualifications.

All Americans should do that- like for President, as an example.

Obama would abort Joe the Plumber.

re: #19 zombie

Religious tests for holding public office are forbidden by the Constitution. Such as Couric asking Palin if she thought global warming was manmade.

Lol. Barry says justices need to ---wait for it - - - - provide justice.

Zero is leading in "uhs", so far.

that was a great reference by McCain on the judges ---

re: #38 JSK1121

Is Drudge a partisan site? I never check it.

Yes, more or less.

I read it often, but the poll is worthless.

Is Obama thinking of really funny jokes all the time?

Obama is on the defensive.

Good.

Obama on the litmus test: "Me too! Me too!"

Senator Obama, I'm sorry, you dropped this (hands Obama his ass)

Gaffe-o-meter:

McCain: 17 gaffes and stutters

Obama: 21 gaffes and stutters.

Barry is jumping in to the bottomless pit of the big bad A.

C'mon McCain, bring up Obama supporting infanticide.

Judicial appointments is a big issue for me. But I do not believe Roe v Wade hangs in the balance.

listmas test?

And BHO's a Christian?

re: #48 astronmr20

Yes, more or less.

I read it often, but the poll is worthless.

Ah, OK, thanks for clearing that up.

Please John, bring up BAIPA!

re: #8 Sharmuta

Plumbers rock!

Plumbers, Plumbers, Plumbers!

Obama sidestepping the issue a bit. The best he can do is lie and copy McCain.

McCain confused Breyer with one of the recently nominated SCOTUS judges

I'm shocked that a bolt of lightning hasn't struck BO on the SCOTUS answer.

Moral, Mr. Obama?
F You!

Rove v. was an abortion of Constitutional Law.

It's not a specifically enumerated federal power it belongs to the states.

The Constitution has a right to privacy in it? When did that happen?

re: #49 SWPaul

Is Obama thinking of really funny jokes all the time?

He's thinking of all the press he'll get tomorrow saying he won the debate.

Abortion and free speech, good grief

It might be a good idea in the future to link to a live feed rather than feeding it so that the comment activity can run normally. I'm spending most of my time having to reconnect to LGF from scratch after I hit "new comments" or "preview" more than once. I'm not even running the live feed through my PC and it feels like I've gone back to a dialup modem.

Just a suggestion...

Awwww fuck....here goes the sob story again.

re: #58 witness

Therefore chose life?

Uh, Senator Gubmit, abortion is NOT a right. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. don't tell anybody.

re: #57 jorline

listmas test?

Isthmus test.

Little Rascals;

"Use the word 'isthmus' in a sentence"
"Isthmus be my lucky day!"

0bama pays his women less than his men.

He's a hypocrite on this issue!

LLL remembering Nixon's Plumbers in 5...4...3...2...

Oh no - not another example! /runs

Good ole Ms. Ledbetter! Poor old Ms. Ledbetter.

Sob!

O i's trying to say something not to piss off the Left, and yet not infuriate Christians.

Impossible.

OMG! Barack brought up pay for women and men! LMAO

Obama's campaign pays women less than the men; McCain's doesn't.

How about equal pay for campaign workers, Barry?

Notice Obama doesn't want a constitutionalist on the bench.

Obama's tossing out the Fair Pay act, when it was shot full of awfulness.

Let's see how Mac responds....

O is off-topic.

Oh, this is good. Let him have it, John. Please bring up the fact that Obama pays his female staffers less than the males.

Dude....ignorance is no excuse for statute of limitations...that's why lawyers were invented.

Culture wars!

So if the media continues to attack Sarah Palin, should the courts step in then?

Personally, I could choose a qualified judge who disagrees with major ethical positions I hold. I think McCain could also do that.

Oh. He opened up pay discrimination. Pounce John.

Infanticide!

Roe doesn't agree with Roe/Wade, and it was one of those 5 to 4 decisions, you know, like Gore v. Bush in 2000.

WAIT - equal pay for equal work! Obama doesn't even do that with his campaign workers.

I thought determining when life begins is above your pay grade, Barry.

Here it comes!

Here we go. BAIPA!

Is BHO really bringing up equal pay for equal work? He ought to check his own staff's paystubs.

What an ass - speaking out for women's rights while throwing dirt at Palin.

re: #67 rw in san diego

It took all 57 states to pass it

Finally. BAIPA. Hooray.

OOOH, live-birth abortion issue! Slam!

YES! Infant born alive act! YES! Go John!

Here we go...let's see how far McCain is willing to go.

re: #67 rw in san diego

The Constitution has a right to privacy in it? When did that happen?

and obie's supposedly a constitutional lawyer?!?

here we go on child born alive act!

Infanticide ! Go McCain!

Infanticide.... SMACK

Zing - the Born Alive Act

McCain is hitting the protection for the born alive issue...

Good.

BAIPA!

Please, yes, tell us about letting babies die in laundry rooms.

I sure hope McCain brings up the fact that Obama pays his female staffers less than the men.

Slam him, John!

New comments

McCain going after Obama's record.

WOW!

re: #58 witness

And BHO's a Christian?

To be one, you have to believe in something greater than yourself. He doesn't.

Those of us who are Pro-Life!

Yeah......go after the partial-birth voting record!

Go! Go! Go!

He brought up the Born Alive Infant Protection Act!

Say the word "infanticide," John, Say it!

This is the ass kicking we've been waiting for.

re: #97 witness

Oh, that explains it.

re: #67 rw in san diego

The Constitution has a right to privacy in it? When did that happen?

When Obama and libs decided it did.

mccain slamming o on his vote against the infant born alive protection act.

I bet Barry memorized this meme.

Obama is so serene.............

Backpedaling!

On the defensive!

LAIR!

Equal pay for equal work.

/hey Lord President For Life Obama, who makes more money, the women on your Senate staff or the women on McCain's?

re: #21 taxfreekiller

Now the CBS hack is going to try to save Obama's ass.

He's trying his damndest, that's for sure.

abortion is a constitutional right like the first amendment?

Ridiculous explanation!

It.is.true. You DID vote that way, Senator Gubmint!

Obama looks like a kid who ought to be wearing a Dunce Cap

But you did, asswipe.....you did vote to allow babies to be tossed into the laundry rooms and allow them to suffer and die.

Fucking bastard.

And Bambi lies again. Never forget those babies dying cold and alone in a pile of dirty linen, thanks to Barack Obama.

re: #85 rawmuse

Oh, this is good. Let him have it, John. Please bring up the fact that Obama pays his female staffers less than the males.

and less than McCain pays his females!

re: #75 Sharmuta

0bama pays his women less than his men.

He's a hypocrite on this issue!

I heard that same thing while we sat across a table of loud hoosiers
the other morning at breakfast...

BAIPA

Portae Inferi Non Praevalebunt

It is easy to see who the Creator favors here

(About BHO)

Liar, liar, pants on fire!

Somebody find a fire extinguisher...

obie's pants are on fire

the O is a frickin' LIAR!
Infanticide lover, asshole, Mofo.

re: #127 skree

LAIR!

Bear! :D

Good for McCain.

He is dissecting Obama with factual precision.

John is a serious, professional Senator. Barry know ****, except his talking points, most of which are, uh "inaccurate".

This is mendacious.

This is what I've been waiting for. He already accused a pro life group of lying and then the next day his campaign said that Obama was lying.

re: #67 rw in san diego

The Constitution has a right to privacy in it? When did that happen?

It's in the Sixth Emanation, Third Penumbra.

I believe in life as long as.......

The docs in Illinois got to vote on the bill? Wow!

For some reason this makes good background music for Barry...

re: #141 devil in baggy pants

Somebody find a fire extinguisher...

obie's pants are on fire

That has to be racist, somehow.

/////

As I said earlier today, and a plumber shall lead the fight against Obama and his socialism...

Convoluted, O.

Try again.

re: #80 SeafoodGumbo

Obama's campaign pays women less than the men; McCain's doesn't.

Actually, I think it's in their respective Senate office staff, not campaign staff.

But Obama does pay the women on his staff 83% less than he pays the men on his staff. Mac pays women over 100% more, on average.

That was a total dastardly lie. We all know this.

Obama squirms on abortion.

Fucking hit him again, John! You're killing him!

/Sorry for the language. John's energizing tonite.

o lying abt his vote against the infant born alive protection act.
he says he did not vote agoinst it.
he is spinning like a whirling dirvish.

as long as the exception is to not weaken Roe V. Wade.

After MandyManners said
"Oh, fuck CNN."
I realized that:
CNN's graphic serves the purposes of leading you like the ringers in the Asch experiment in Zombie's Master Post.

Pure political calculation laid bare, no moral core.

Oh no, my C-SPAN feed is dying!

Barry becomes loquacious when backpedaling and lying. People tune out.

re: #137 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

and less than McCain pays his females!

and fewer females on his staff than McCain. And fewer in management.

"cavalier activity"?

re: #146 zombie

This is mendacious.

Not only that, but Obama is lying his pants off.

At least this debate has been a little feisty. And entertaining.

Lots of good sound bytes for the talk shows tomorrow.

Koskidz already spamming online polls....

Freepapalooza 3: The Third Presidential Debate!

re: #131 Outrider

Declaration of Independence mentions LIFE, liberty;

Abortion is the opposite

"Cavalier activities"!

Sexuality is sacred - that will stop the teens.

I remember when I needed a poster for school when I was a kid. We had these ALPHABET stencils. You taped them to the poster and filled them in.

Is that's what's been done to BHO's hair? The silvering is just too perfect to be real.

Ah, it's back. *gasp of relief*

It's not about birth control, you ass, it's about murdering full-term infants. Scum.

re: #155 Intrepid

Actually, I think it's in their respective Senate office staff, not campaign staff.

But Obama does pay the women on his staff 83% less than he pays the men on his staff. Mac pays women over 100% more, on average.

yes, Senate staff

Second drink of water for 0

I thought this question was above his pay grade.....

Joe wants an abortion.

"extreme pro-abortion"

Last question

McCain is currently wiping the floor with Obama.

mccain talking abt. o spinning in his eloquence.
lying.
o is a liar.

If it sounds too incredible to be true, that's because it is.

NO, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE LYING AGAIN ASSHOLE!

/or maybe you forgot that you said it on tape and there's a record of your votes

Last question

"Eloquence of Obama" (= Obama's a liar)

Love it!

re: #178 rosh

Second drink of water for 0

Gotta replenish the water lost to sweat.

Barry, you lies are showing again. You DID vote against the bill providing for the life saving care for babies born alive in a botched abortion.

Sex education in kindergarten? Is that what you mean Barry? To prevent unintended pregnancies.

Culture of Life!

PRO ABORTION, It is PRO ABORTION!
some women use it as birth control, such as the frickin' whoopie goldberg!

MSM screaming about McCain's negative campaign in 5...4...3...2...

edumacation

Mac's just picked up a few percent more of the Conservative base with his abortion stance and adoption endorsement.

Go Mac!

re: #166 devil in baggy pants

"cavalier activity"?

Results in "punishment."

As an adult adoptee, I love John McCain. How can anyone look at Bridget McCain's beautiful smile and not believe all life has value?

Old Bob Schieffer is doing a bang up job. Asks his question, then keeps the hell out of it as much as he can.

re: #161 jimash

After MandyManners said
"Oh, fuck CNN."
I realized that:
CNN's graphic serves the purposes of leading you like the ringers in the Asch experiment in Zombie's Master Post.

That was a Master Post. Probably the best blog entry I've ever read come to think of it.

This is a good point to bring up Ayers again

Here's an opening. Let's hear the results of the Annenberg Challenge.

McCain should be able to kill on the education question since it's the left that has ruined the school system.

School Vouchers! Remember your "civil rights issue of our time" John.. SLAM him!

one adopts, one thinks "it" is a punishment, nuff said

We already support a lot of unwed mothers...it's called welfare.

Aw, last question. I want to see more.

re: #174 MandyManners

And, why the hell have I been obsessed with this for the past eight-six weeks? Because it shows the content of his character.

YOU CANNOT MANUFACTURE GRAVITAS, BHO.

The Dems do NOT want young pregnant teenagers to know what a fetus is, to see it at a few weeks, or to know what an abortion does to it. They try to hide these things.

Aw, man. I'm only now able to join in.

Who won?

Education: Obama, higher union pay and more union bullshit, yeah!

I've got a great idea! Let's get Bill Ayers to help "get our education system right".

///

Bob, The reason I am winning is the very undereducated students you mention.

So I say, keep undereducating The American youth

re: #188 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Gotta replenish the water lost to sweat.

And cool the flaming pantaloons.

re: #147 HelloDare

This is what I've been waiting for. He already accused a pro life group of lying and then the next day his campaign said that Obama was lying.

Obama fucking lied his ass off there.

What does this guy know about education when all he's been around his whole life has been radicals who wish to impose their radical, communist bullshit on our children?

re: #194 Fat Jolly Penguin

MSM can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

I know how 0bama could help improve education!

He should partner up with an unrepentant domestic terrorist and waste money with no results.

We spend more and get less because we have a bunch of libs in the classroom.

re: #214 Shug

Bob, The reason I am winning is the very undereducated students you mention.

So I say, keep undereducating The American youth

Ha!

Education.

People are heading to the refrigerator.

re: #188 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Gotta replenish the water lost to sweat.

Or the piss in his pants.

re: #199 doppelganglander

As an adult adoptee, I love John McCain. How can anyone look at Bridget McCain's beautiful smile and not believe all life has value?

Having been born a bastard of teen parents, and having been adopted at 7 months, allow me to say a hearty "me too."

o should just say abt. education that all that money went down the drain teaching how bad america is.
higher pay and bigger benefits to teach the bill ayers curriculum.

Obama ed......annenberg and woods education. no math, just marxism

re: #211 Cognito

Aw, man. I'm only now able to join in.

Who won?

McCain

re: #180 Killgore Trout

Joe wants an abortion.

*WHACK*

If CNN declares BHO the winner of this debate then McCain will win.

re: #174 MandyManners

Yes - the spots of gray change because they forget what they did last time.

Go to Obama's home town and see how all those Annenberg millions have helped schools there. What are the SAT scores? Can they even spell SAT?

re: #218 Ojoe

MSM can eat my toasted shorts in hell.

Nice.

$4000 education credit? Does he realize how far 4 grand goes?

/Or doesn't go?

Make college affordable. No more tenure.

re: #211 Cognito

Who won?

I think this was by far McCain's best performance yet. I fear Obama won anyways.
/Too little too late

I paid my school loans off without your help Barry.....I think you should give people some flipping credit.

Has anyone added up all of "O"'s plans and pay increases tonight?

My calculator ran out of zeros.

Obama lied twice in that sentence.

Doesn't he know that government subsidies for college just raise the cost.

Bill Ayres, Sec. of (Re)education!

re: #161 jimash

After MandyManners said
"Oh, fuck CNN."
I realized that:
CNN's graphic serves the purposes of leading you like the ringers in the Asch experiment in Zombie's Master Post.

All I have is CNN Hi-def..
So..the graphics are cool
the graphics are useless
and it's CNN..
*spit*
oh PS If i got a chance to turn those little dials on TV.. I'd be the most undecided voter you know..what a crock

School choice! Yes!

re: #194 Fat Jolly Penguin

MSM screaming about McCain's negative campaign in 5...4...3...2...

According to my clock, it'll be in exactly 12 minutes.

Hamsters are dying or my dual-processor G4 Mac is frying - Hey hamsters! Don't give up yet! I've got some supercharged rodent chow for ya!

Why is our math so bad? Easy, have any of you seen a modern math book? It teaches almost everything BUT math. Most of the books are either filled with PC garbage (no math) or are so junked up with flashy photos and confusing exercises that a student can't focus. Look at foreign math books: in Japan, it is a law--no more than 4 colors in a math book and no pictures unless they are there to illustrate an exercise. Now, look at their scores!

"Parents need to turn off the TV and put away the video games..."

Oh my god. This cannot be; I actually agree with The One on something!

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess.

As an engineer, I want to hear if there's a job in this country where they give a crap about math and science! (I'm there!)

Just sayin'...

Truth is, this is a boring topic to most people. No one will win a vote on this.

re: #238 jorline

Has anyone added up all of "O"'s plans and pay increases tonight?

My calculator ran out of zeros.

You need Big Blue to figure out the cost of BO's plans.

re: #211 Cognito

Aw, man. I'm only now able to join in.

Who won?

Joe the Plumber

/and McCain

Gee Bob, I can answer your education question.

NEA Teachers Have Become Re-Educators

/just ask your self who put them in charge of America's public schools and who do they vote for?

Give people the same choice Michelle and Sen. Obama had...

heh

Vouchers! Yes!

Wait, I can't join the Peace Corps until after college. How will I get $4000 for tuition when I'm out of college? Something's not right here...

And if I joined the Army, don't I get money anyways?

re: #183 zombie

McCain is currently wiping the floor with Obama.

+
OK, I'm starting to breathe for the first time in over an hour.

re: #224 Catttt

Love to you, Cattt, you survivor, you.

This was a hell of a good debate.

Zombie, I'm sure you are right in that it will spin to Barry in the press, but I'm thinking Joe the Plumber and his cohorts are leaning McCain.

Though John is trying his best!

Say it! Say Vouchers!

re: #236 Killgore Trout

I think this was by far McCain's best performance yet. I fear Obama won anyways.
/Too little too late

I'm really beginning to wonder about you.

"I am not President Bush - if you wanted to run against him you should've done it four years ago."

Golden.

McCain mopped the floor with this guy's ass.

The Six-Million Man has spoken.

College - get the politics out of grade school! Let go of the government monopoly!

Turn off the TV/video games. And will they do this in the failed schools John is talking about? Not bloody likely.

John knows his stuff. A hell of a lot more than Barry.

Ahhhh... OK, Mac... wrap up with the Annenberg Foundation grants that went to anything but education.

I bet Joe is gonna want a post-birth abortion for all the attention he's getting.

re: #246 conrad

Why is our math so bad? Easy, have any of you seen a modern math book? It teaches almost everything BUT math. Most of the books are either filled with PC garbage (no math) or are so junked up with flashy photos and confusing exercises that a student can't focus. Look at foreign math books: in Japan, it is a law--no more than 4 colors in a math book and no pictures unless they are there to illustrate an exercise. Now, look at their scores!

Yes, but also look at their culture. High value on succeeding. We reward mediocrity.

re: #172 zombie

"Cavalier activities"!

he used the word "kitty" earlier

entertaining

re: #164 zombie

Barry becomes loquacious when backpedaling and lying. People tune out.

Mellifluous and mendacious.

John's losing some steam. He won the first half, but ...

I've only been able to watch sporadically, but this seems to be by far McCain's best performance

Education, here's another chance to bring in Ayers and his indoctrination program. and McCain misses it. Sheesh. Can I go debate in his place next time?

mccain says choice in schools is key. get rid of bad teachers. (another line of work)
we need competition in the school systems.

re: #259 Catttt

This was a hell of a good debate.

Zombie, I'm sure you are right in that it will spin to Barry in the press, but I'm thinking Joe the Plumber and his cohorts are leaning McCain.

I guarantee the MSM will portray this as an Obama victory.

re: #247 Siberian Khatru

"Parents need to turn off the TV and put away the video games..."

Oh my god. This cannot be; I actually agree with The One on something!

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess.

He doesn't mean it. He bought advertising in video games

re: #236 Killgore Trout

I think this was by far McCain's best performance yet. I fear Obama won anyways.
/Too little too late

I think it will make a big difference, and I also think it is way closer than the MSM are letting on.

$50million wasted on radical socialist education programs

Obamas executive resume

nre: #200 Catttt

Old Bob Schieffer is doing a bang up job. Asks his question, then keeps the hell out of it as much as he can.

And McCain corrects that old coot when he misspeaks... ;-)

Keep the camera on the candidates not the crowd C-SPAN! It muddles the answers!

THANK YOU!

About time.

yeah, more government money so universities can raise their tuition some more.

What's the Constitutional Authority for the Federal Government being involved in Education?

Education is simple. It's a parenting problem and a culture problem.

Next topic.

No, YOUR party left the money behind in order to make a manufactured situation where Bush looks bad no matter what he does. LIAR!

Please, John, use Annenberg..... now!

refresh

It's understood you meant spend more federal money on education. Say no more.

re: #282 astronmr20

Education is simple. It's a parenting problem and a culture problem.

Next topic.

WELL SAID!

If parents parented, kids would behave in school and learning could happen.

Yeah, I agree with the Annenberg thing. Nail Obama on where the money HE controlled went. With Ayers.

Kids could start school at age ten and if taught basic reading writing and arithmetics, they would do well. Too much time is spent on screwy junk. Quit passing failing students. Quit having baby-sitter schools. Learn or leave.

re: #236 Killgore Trout

I think this was by far McCain's best performance yet. I fear Obama won anyways.
/Too little too late