home stretch?

Good idea Charles, keeping the threads shorter.

Almost everything I know, I know in spite of my public schools.

Obama lied about the funding for No Chilld Left Behind. It was the DEMS who denied it.

Charles, why does LGF run so slow? Is it everyone hitting the new comments button, or non-logged-on users refeshing?

Say it, Barry: "I want Marxist indoctrination to start in Kindergarten."

Annenberg time.... please use all weapons when you're Winchester, John.

I've lost track of the lie-count for Obama.

o's charter schools are the commie schools, the 'peace' schools and the self-esteem schools.
all failed.

Michelle's talking points....Wah, wah, why do I have to repay my student loans?

0bama: I believe that children our are future....

He's the Whitney Houston candidate.

re: #3 rawmuse

Almost everything I know, I know in spite of my public schools.

I graduated from HS just about the time they started to go downhill.

I still say this issue is a wash -- neither will win votes on it.

Big Brown Pulls up. Finishes last

re: #5 Ward Cleaver

Charles, why does LGF run so slow? Is it everyone hitting the new comments button, or non-logged-on users refeshing?

Now Online: 4,136
Logged in: 516

McCain's kick ass.

more field trips to gay weddings for 2nd graders, thats what we need.

They're both agreeing with each other too much on this topic, and pretending not to.

re: #11 Sharmuta

0bama: I believe that children our are future....

He's the Whitney Houston candidate.

Including the coke snorting!

re: #13 zombie

I still say this issue is a wash -- neither will win votes on it.

I agree. I think people want to work on this problem at the local level.

Obama Keeps Distorting "Born Alive" Vote

A "tradition" of gov't schools that has worked out well? - we just told you that it was NOT working out well! In fact, that is the premise of this part of the debate!

Just how will the O fund more federal involvement in schools, healthcare and everything else he's pandered to tonight? I mean, he's cutting taxes for 95% of americans....

"No Child Left Behind" was practically a Teddy Kennedy construct.

I hope Joe the Plumber is drunk right now. McCain was aggressive, Obama treaded water, which is what each candidate probably needed to do.

Unfortunately, ten people at most will care.

re: #9 nyc redneck

Nothing wrong with the self-esteem part.

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

LMAO!

Get that Autism vote! Yeah baby! That is the real swing vote!

getting new comments

re: #19 Ward Cleaver

But he never did smack! Give credit where credit is due.

BO want's to let all kids go to college for free, but what happened to parent actually sacrificing to send their kids to college, or am I the only idiot who's actually doing this?

Gotta go.

Way to go Mac. Keep the fight going.

transparency. accountability. school vouchers.
but no money thrown down the drain any more.

re: #15 Syrah

Now Online: 4,136
Logged in: 516

But I've seen way higher numbers on in the past, and it wasn't as slow. It's a new phenomenon.

Obama pushed Ayers education policy with CAC!

So vouchers are ok in DC, but screw the rest of America!

So, we heard a lot about Joe the Plumber... did Bush ever come up after Mac's smackdown of Zero on him?

re: #3 rawmuse

Almost everything I know, I know in spite of my public schools.

My kids went to public schools, for the most part, but they really got their education at home.

re: #8 Outrider

I've lost track of the lie-count for Obama.

Start counting in mega-lies. 1000 lies = 1 MLie

Yay! John answered the question and actually sounded like a Republican! Sent the Big-0 into a stuttering attack.

Barry being wonky and boring again.

Did O say that he would offer things to schools in exchange for teacher's support? Was that a slip?

Good. Obama on the defensive.

re: #31 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

BO want's to let all kids go to college for free, but what happened to parent actually sacrificing to send their kids to college, or am I the only idiot who's actually doing this?

Don't introduce logic to the Obamessiah!

How did I get posted twice? Spooky.

re: #38 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So, we heard a lot about Joe the Plumber... did Bush ever come up after Mac's smackdown of Zero on him?

Nope.

Oh snap!

re: #37 taxfreekiller

Who gets the last word?

We do. Early next month.

re: #17 alien_mind

more field trips to gay weddings for 2nd graders, thats what we need.

That would solve all the world's problems.

Damn it they're on the crowd again!

Look at the parting shot...

McCain with the last smartassy word on education!

re: #31 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

BO want's to let all kids go to college for free, but what happened to parent actually sacrificing to send their kids to college, or am I the only idiot who's actually doing this?

Hell, I'm sacrificing, and gladly so, to send my kid to HS.

Love the snort from Mac at the end. "I got it. Snort"

re: #30 rw in san diego

But he never did smack! Give credit where credit is due.

No chasing the dragon!

So far, I'd say 80-20 in favor of McCain on style and substance.

Oh, McCain got a gotcha in.

Wow, that answer from 0bama made absolutely NO sense. Can anyone translate that last line of crap for me?

Well, all in all, I think that Mac won....

I am impressed.

Go Mac with the close.

He's kicked Obama's ass tonight.

Joe the Plumber for President!

Oh shit. Did Mac just snort?

LMAO!

Head tilt.

C'mon, John, please, a nice closing speech.

McCain looks like a new person tonight. Where was he for the first two debates?

re: #61 conrad

Wow, that answer from 0bama made absolutely NO sense. Can anyone translate that last line of crap for me?

I suggest Rosetta Stone, they do a pretty good job of teaching you Obamabullshitish

re: #12 Ward Cleaver

I graduated from HS just about the time they started to go downhill.

I graduated in 04, thankfully my public school was good and actually learned things.

*Praying for John right NOW*

Obama lied. Truth died.

re: #46 skree

Don't introduce logic to the Obamessiah!

Oh that's right. He reacts like the wicked witch of the west reacted to water..
my bad.

John won this debate, hands down. Kept Zero knocked back on his heels most of the time.

Sorry, I had to start hitting the Mute button every time The One speaks. Tired of his lies.

re: #68 rw in san diego

McCain looks like a new person tonight. Where was he for the first two debates?

It's Palin in a McCain Suit!

re: #31 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

BO want's to let all kids go to college for free, but what happened to parent actually sacrificing to send their kids to college, or am I the only idiot who's actually doing this?

The government, and especially 0bama, knows better than you what's good for you and your kids. Just hand over your $$$ and sit down.

(j/k)

re: #70 mattm

I graduated in 04, thankfully my public school was good and actually learned things.

Your public school learned things?

// just saying

LOL

This is the John McCain that we need to see for the remainder of the campaign.

Fight Fight Fight.

Stay on target!

Stay on target!

Can anyone give me a link detailing Ayers/Obama money being thrown away on radicalizing the school?

re: #61 conrad

Wow, that answer from 0bama made absolutely NO sense. Can anyone translate that last line of crap for me?

Sorry, no. When Barry said it, only Barry and God knew what it meant. Now, God only knows (stolen from Browning)

re: #59 zombie

So far, I'd say 80-20 in favor of McCain on style and substance.

Agreed.

McCain does a lizard like action with his tongue.

McCain WINS!

The "checking - new comments" thing gets locked up or something.

"Careful stewards." I like that.

re: #56 reine.de.tout

Hell, I'm sacrificing, and gladly so, to send my kid to HS.

I'm sacrificing to send mine to Catholic ELEMENTARY school. I empathize.

re: #66 Charles

Head tilt.

Oooooooh. :D

Yay! McCain just threw down the gauntlet. "Examine my record". Challenging 0bama to do the same.

The policies of the last 8 years were just fine. It has just been since 2006 since things have been going down the crapper.

re: #70 mattm

I graduated in 04, thankfully my public school was good and actually learned things.

Thank goodness. I graduated in '78.

What's the deal with C-Span's focus on the Uni. Lounge bunch? That's the few fragments of streaming video I've seen so far! And all the greenies with their throwaway lines on their neon t-shirts - blech

I'm concentrating really hard trying to make Obama's flag pin burst into flames.

Fundamental Change = SOCIALISM.

I didn't invite 0bama into my home, what the hell...

Is he behind me?

I missed most of it. Did McCain even bring up Ayers &/or Wright?

re: #87 zombie

"Careful stewards." I like that.

Indeed!

Fundamental Change = Socialism!

How was/is the debate? I haven't watched any of it. I was at the fabric store with my wife.

re: #66Charles

Is the problem server overload or is the problem with tread length?

re: #70 mattm

I graduated in 04, thankfully my public school was good and actually learned things.

1972. (sigh) ;-)>

I so truly dislike the big fat zero.

Fundamental Change to this country.

The United Soviet States of America.
Fundamental Change.

'same failed polisehs'

re: #40 unclassifiable

Do like the SI system: Hertz, for example. One lie is an Obama; 1000 lies is a kObama; so on.

DRINK! Failed policies last 8 yrs yadda yadda yadda

MUTE!

I'd never invite you to my home Barry...lie baby lie

AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa

re: #31 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

BO want's to let all kids go to college for free, but what happened to parent actually sacrificing to send their kids to college, or am I the only idiot who's actually doing this?

Nope, I'm right there with you. And due to earlier difficulties, we're doing it out of income, not savings.

re: #86 legalpad

The "checking - new comments" thing gets locked up or something.

On the count of 3, everyone hit the new comments button.

1,

2,

. . . .

Bent him over the table, I think.

Neither closing speech was too strong.

Good.

End result: 80-20 McCain.

Barry, you dork, you're not running against Bush. Get over it.

re: #94 HelloDare

I'm concentrating really hard trying to make Obama's flag pin burst into flames.

It didn't spontaneously catch fire on contact with his body?

I'll watch FOX for a bit of the wrap-up and then it's off to the PS3 for a little asswooping before I go to sleep. McCain got me all fired up tonight!

Brighter days are still ahead
The skies are still above ahead
Let us sing a song of commie dread
Brighter days are still ahead

re: #61 conrad

Wow, that answer from 0bama made absolutely NO sense. Can anyone translate that last line of crap for me?

I'm sorry, I don't speak BS :)

refresh

re: #73 taxfreekiller

No more about Ayers, can not cannot let Obama have the last word on that.

Fixed that. Sorry, pet peeve of mine.

Wow, Obama's eyes were behaving very weird during his close.

Lenin also brought fundamental change to his country....

re: #92 Ward Cleaver

Thank goodness. I graduated in '78.

I graduated in '95 and learned by going to the library.

Government schools are worthless.

re: #55 devil in baggy pants

McCain with the last smartassy word on education!

McCain is natural smartass. But I'd rather have a smartass as president than a dumbass, and Barry is the latter.

Barry keeps using the phrase "Greatest economic crisis since the great depression" .

Not going to be easy - right, because we will work our ass off, then "share the wealth".

work tirelessly,, i think he said that once before,, PhULEEESSSSS

Dear LGF:

This is my final statement to you. I will be venturing off into the depths of cable television in a few minutes. I may not return. The smugness may kill me.

Ladies and gents, I'm off to MSNBC. Wish me luck.

-ClosetConservative

nasty bit of bush hatred to start off his conclusion. bad form.

pwned by McCain

Weak McCain finish?

I was expecting more, and he tripped up a little much, although I saw some emotion there.

Obama talking points finish. Usual crap. Like he's reading a teleprompter in his head. "Scroll a little slower, no, too slow"

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

I think this is a attempt at obtaining the Mommy vote - autistic child or not. Mommy's want babies taken care of, especially the weakest among them. Not sure if its effective, but I think that is the intent behind it.

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

Not if you have two kids who have it. It is a struggle everyday.

I declare, IN REALITY, a victory for McCain.

I also declare that the MSM will declare a FANTASYLAND victory for Obama.

0bama is an ageist. What about college for non-young people who want to go?

Excellent job, Bob! Go vote!

The policies of the last 8 years ... the same failed politics ... Bush Bush ... he's rubbing the "Bush" sore to make it hurt more and more and more

It's the Saul Alinsky tactic.

McCain for President.

I'm Joe the Plumber, and I approve this message.

Both wives are so tall and slender.

I think they should play ping pong now.

McCain 31
Obama 14

re: #79 mattmoss

The government, and especially 0bama, knows better than you what's good for you and your kids. Just hand over your $$$ and sit down.

(j/k)

Actually, 0bama's got a great plan for getting eveyrone to college. The government simply guarantees college loans for everyone, even if they're not traditionally considered creditworthy. We could set up a quasi-government organization called the Federal College/University Program, or FC/UP.

My face is hurting just thinking about all the new spending The ONE proposed just in his closing comments.

re: #96 mattmoss

I didn't invite 0bama into my home, what the hell...

Is he behind me?

The phone call's coming from inside the house!

/Palandine's running to get another absinth to celebrate the McCain win!

re: #129 ClosetConservative

Dear LGF:

This is my final statement to you. I will be venturing off into the depths of cable television in a few minutes. I may not return. The smugness may kill me.

Ladies and gents, I'm off to MSNBC. Wish me luck.

-ClosetConservative

You are a better person that I. Let me know what Olberdolt does.

... and off goes CNN.

They brought 'ole sour puss out of her box.

re: #128 bcgirl

work tirelessly,, i think he said that once before,, PhULEEESSSSS

Clinton was fond of "working" too - his phrase was "working hard" if I recall.

On energy consumption, on health care, on school vouchers, and several other things, I had the facts on my fingertips AND the statements that could have made The One look like a complete fool.

McCain hit very few of them, and the ones he did hit, he articulated very poorly. This is Pathetic. As Hell.

Maybe McCain ends up "winning" this debate, maybe not, but at this point, I'm of the opinion that if we're going to lose to this Marxist amateur, then I'm just going to pin what little hope I have on the combined effects of buyer's remorse, 2010 midterm backlash, and the chance that 4 years of Oabamamania results in clearing out all the RINO deadwood in the Republican party, after which perhaps we can start over and get something done.

re: #68 rw in san diego

He took my advice, friend. 5 Hour Energy!

/Seriously, maybe somebody high in his campaign read him the riot act? Gov Palin, perhaps? Or maybe this was Palin just dressed up as McCain....?

re: #100 bosforus

I was at the fabric store with my wife.

bwahaha. That sounds fun.

Well, I didn't get my big mistake by Zero I expected, but Mac did well.

Charles can decide if I deserve a public spanking for the result...

"These are the policies I've fought for my entire career".

What career, Barry? You spent a few years as a community organizer, a few years as a lawyer and law professor, a few years as state senator, and 143 days as the US senator from Illinois.

What career should should we judge by?

NO experience, NO wisdom, NOBAMA!

re: #26 Ojoe

Nothing wrong with the self-esteem part.

of course not. but ie. giving everyone a first place blue ribbon for the race on the last day of school is not being honest.
the last person to come across the finish line knows this is a hollow phony "award."
the sefl-esteem, everybody- is- a -winner stuff is resented by students.
adults are fools to put this on them.

I'm too sick of Obama lies to watch the debate but the comments here are quite entertaining.

Note on schools, since schools were invented people have said they are going to hell, and they were better in my day. Except for some inner city schools most schools in the US are doing OK. Give the schools the right to get rid of bad students and bad teachers and 95% of the issues would be gone.

CNN SPIN TIME

re: #129 ClosetConservative

Dear LGF:

This is my final statement to you. I will be venturing off into the depths of cable television in a few minutes. I may not return. The smugness may kill me.

Ladies and gents, I'm off to MSNBC. Wish me luck.

-ClosetConservative

Good luck, brave comrade. PBS will tell me what to believe now!

..and now for the ceremonial hugging yer chick.
/how strange.

re: #135 Sharmuta

0bama is an ageist. What about college for non-young people who want to go?

re: #144 Palandine

The phone call's coming from inside the house!

/Palandine's running to get another absinth to celebrate the McCain win!

Damn.. i want to party with YOU.

re: #123 Salem

Wow, Obama's eyes were behaving very weird during his close.

The mind control implants were malfunctioning. Internal teleprompter error.

So, McCain never said the "S" (socialism) word?

re: #144 Palandine

The phone call's coming from inside the house!

/Palandine's running to get another absinth to celebrate the McCain win!

heh-heh-
I just had a pint of ice cream.

CNN bringing Billary on soon

re: #151 Mich-again

bwahaha. That sounds fun.

Ha ha! I tried being manly by saying how cool the dinosaur print fleece pattern was.

Why did they never shut The One up? Dang ....... they let him talk forever ....

re: #82 TheMatrix31

Can anyone give me a link detailing Ayers/Obama money being thrown away on radicalizing the school?

Go to nationalreview.com and find the article Wright 101 by Stanley Kurtz. The link is wonky right now, but it's got everything you need to know.

McCain is the CLEAR winner

Cue for all the posters with under 300 comments to start slamming McCain. On 3...2...1...Go

re: #135 Sharmuta

0bama is an ageist. What about college for non-young people who want to go?

I had a great IM argument with a co-worker friend who is a complete liberal elitist, and proud of it.

Her: McCain is old!
Me: Reagan was old!
Her: Reagan almost died!
Me: Reagan was shot!

We had a great time.

Line of the night:
"I'm not President Bush. If you wanted to run against Bush, you should have run 4 years ago." Barry even set him up for it.

Obama & Service

He mentions it so much because it goes to the very core of who and what Obama is.

George Clintonopoulos is giving Obama points for not getting ruffled.

re: #158 Killgore Trout

..and now for the ceremonial hugging yer chick.
/how strange.

At least we don't the Gore/Tipper tonsil check.

re: #129 ClosetConservative

Dear LGF:

This is my final statement to you. I will be venturing off into the depths of cable television in a few minutes. I may not return. The smugness may kill me.

Ladies and gents, I'm off to MSNBC. Wish me luck.

-ClosetConservative

Is your life insurance paid up?

re: #132 ArmyWife

I think this is a attempt at obtaining the Mommy vote - autistic child or not. Mommy's want babies taken care of, especially the weakest among them. Not sure if its effective, but I think that is the intent behind it.

It didn't work here. I'll take care of my own babies, thank you very much.

Bob Shieffer:

We have the highest per capita education spending and we still suck at education. What is your solution?

Obama:

SpendINVEST more money!

fuck off george-stephen-know-nothing

HCforum.net loves McCain in this one.

re: #122 DM Glampers

Fixed that. Sorry, pet peeve of mine.

Thanks. Mine too, but I never correct, kunsidering so many of my thypos.

re: #161 PAgirlinNC

Sure, he called Obama "Senator Government"

re: #175 doppelganglander

It didn't work here. I'll take care of my own babies, thank you very much.

Too bad part of America things you ought to take care of their babies as well. And that 0bama thinks they're right.

re: #45 zombie

Good. Obama on the defensive.

Given McCain's style, I think he did the best he could have done tonight and he landed almost every the punches in the available arsenal, I don't see how he could have done any better.

/there's still more work to do before the election, but then we all knew there would be

re: #169 Catttt

I had a great IM argument with a co-worker friend who is a complete liberal elitist, and proud of it.

Her: McCain is old!
Me: Reagan was old!
Her: Reagan almost died!
Me: Reagan was shot!

We had a great time.

OMG catt, you really rock!

Can I get a job as a professional uncommitted voter?

What's the deal with Brit Hume? Has he always been such a negative nelly?

did they actually watch the debate?

re: #69 Jetpilot1101

Such a Rosetta Stone where to exist would destroy the Space Time Continuum!

Man, I can't stand that chick speaking on Fox now.

Oh god, dear god, no...

Chris Matthews... My ears are bleeding! Can I get free treatment under Obama's plan?

#85 Jorline:

"McCain does a lizard like action with his tongue."

Wm. F. Buckley was the original lizard.

re: #92 Ward Cleaver

Thank goodness. I graduated in '78.

I thought you said you graduated BEFORE things got bad?

Hell, I was in high school in '78. You didn't have to bring your own weed; you could just breathe deeply in the morning. And a fat girl sold her mother's Quaaludes on the bus on the way home.

Teachers loved me...I wasn't stoned!

re: #46 skree

Yes you are, send'em to the Marines first.

re: #29 reine.de.tout

getting new comments

Coming up for air..jeez I haven't seen that many spinning wheels since the NASCAR race in Michigan..
{reine}
I'm emailing you the recipe thursday...
My sister in law had to do the word doc from the crumped piece of paper

Have we not all worked for some idiot like Barry at sometime in our lives? You do the work; he takes the credit. PLUS, he thinks it was his freaking idea in the first place. His 'stinkin' thinkin'' knows no bounds (Alcoholics Anon. phrase) I bet if you got Michelle in a talkative mood, she'd tell you that Barry is a figment of his own imagination. Not that I'm letting Michelle off the hook for buying into the package and exploiting all the benefits of it. Put him in the ring with Putin NOW and see what a professional piranha looks like versus an empty suit.

re: #171 Syrah

Obama & Service

He mentions it so much because it goes to the very core of who and what Obama is.

For some reason, I was reminded irresistibly of John Gill in Patterns of Force (Star Trek; The Original Series).

Parroting the same lines over and over again, without actually thinking about what he's saying.

Of course, Gill was drugged. What's The One's excuse?

/He really, really wants to be the Fuhrer, but he somehow can't get it quite right

cheers

eon

re: #194 yenta-fada

I bet if you got Michelle in a talkative mood, she'd tell you that Barry is a figment of his own imagination.

Like Harry Callahan said to the idiot Lieutenant in The Enforcer (1976), The One is a legend in his own mind.

cheers

eon

Hillary on NBC casting doubt on his readiness by saying he has shown he is ready. I love it!

re: #161 PAgirlinNC

So, McCain never said the "S" (socialism) word?

Nah, he never used the word. He only referred to the "spreading the wealth" phrase that Obama said to Joe the Plumber (the new symbol of America). Spreading the wealth is a euphemism for redistribution of wealth= Socialism.

Do "undecideds" understand this? NO.

someone on radio just mentioned that Obama can be heard giggling when McCain brought up ACORN perpetrating the greatest voter fraud scams in history and asking his involvement with ACORN. You could hear it....he GIGGLED.

Seems to me McCain kicked his butt.. (ok.. maybe I'm biased.. jmho)

Guys,

I'll tell you first hand as someone that is struggling with student loans (law school) and from friends that went to non-state colleges, a $4000 credit is not going to mean jack squat to someone with 6 figures of student loan debt, which, thanks to the dems is not dischargable in bankruptcy. If you take grads and make them do a few years in the peace corp, etc., all you are doing to them is forcing them to forgo any earnings potential. I'm not saying peace corps is bad or anything like that, I admire what they try and do in the world to make it a better place, but tuitions at colleges, universities, grad programs and law schools have outpaced inflation by an enormous margin and salaries for grads are decreasing. The fact that the feds guarantee student loans is part of the problem. Its free money for the schools. That needs to stop. I don't think Obama's plan addresses this.

I do think something needs to be done though about health insurance companies rejecting people with pre-existing conditions. There needs to be some relief for people in those situations where they can't get insurance. I've been in that situation as well and may be there again in the future and all that does is drive more people to financial ruin. I'm not saying I support Obama, but whoever is the next president needs to address this.