Leave Obama alone!

"he was just a guy from the neighborhood,,,also down the hall".

curiouser and curiouser..

"He's just a guy in my 'hood"

They could share the same wife and no one in the msm would care.

Just a coincidence...You conspiracy theory nuts...Geez Louise.

"carpool buddies"

LOL!

I mean its not like he shared an elevator or starbucks with the guy or something, ya know. 'I mean cause that would be like, gay. Right?

now we need the video evidence of him sitting in the pew during 1 of revwrongs sermons..bring it on!

You put Ayers and Barry any closer they are gonna be married.

re: #7 MandyManners

"carpool buddies"

LOL!

More like cesspool.

We have two weeks and two days left---I think we'll be able to show that they shared a brain.

re: #5 snowcrash

They could share the same wife and no one in the msm would care.

They could both have sex with goats on the steps of the Capitol building at high noon and the MSM would ignore them.

Commencing MSM Cricket Cacophony.....

i'm still looking for more information on the idea that Ayers actually wrote or helped to write Obama's book. the little I read on it seemed very compelling.

re: #13 MandyManners

They could both have sex with goats on the steps of the Capitol building at high noon and the MSM would ignore them.

Sex with each other and they'd be praised for their courage.

re: #5 snowcrash

They could share the same wife and no one in the msm would care.

Um... regardless of whether it was Bernadine or Michelle, I might actually have to feel sorry for them.

It's so cute when ex-terrorists and community organizers share! ;-)

re: #13 MandyManners

They could both have sex with goats on the steps of the Capitol building at high noon and the MSM would ignore them.

Yes but it would likely bring in more donations from the middle east:)

115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago
Google maps has a street view.

And THIS (PDF) may be THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INSIGHT into Obama:
He consciously, professionally and smoothly PRACTICES MASS HYPNOSIS in his speeches!

NLP, Ericksonian hypnosis, like the best of practitioners!

FNC reported earlier about a prof from the University of Chicago who used to have lunch with Barry quite a bit.
He claims in his words that Obama is the most Marxist individual ever to run for the Presidency. I can not recall his name, but they did name him

re: #18 quickjustice

Just spreading the wealth around...

re: #15 alien_mind

i'm still looking for more information on the idea that Ayers actually wrote or helped to write Obama's book. the little I read on it seemed very compelling.

That's a distraction. The real connections are incriminating enough.

I'm alternating between the ALCS game and Barack Obama: Ties That Bind on Fox

Shock value for things like this are minimal for the left when "The One" is involved.

115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago is not a huge building. Looks like 5 stories.

re: #13 MandyManners

They could both have sex with goats on the steps of the Capitol building at high noon and the MSM would ignore them.

Yeah, they would just say that it is a cultural thing. At least for Ayers he would not have to worry that the goat might slit his throat, like Dohrn could.

re: #13 MandyManners
I have never seen such willful ignorance by the media. They WILL NOT not be denied this opportunity to be king maker.

From American Thinker:

Evidence Mounts: Ayers Co-Wrote Obama's Dreams

re: #21 Karridine

Not you too! (Makes sign of cross and dons garlic.)

The same address and the same floor? Perhaps they ran into each other in the Men's room? I would like to hear the Obama campaign's follow up on this new info.

re: #15 alien_mind

Evidence continues to mount that Barack Obama had substantial help from Bill Ayers in the creation of his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, a book that Time Magazine has called "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician." The evidence falls into five general categories, here summarized.

* The discovery of new matching nautical metaphors from both Ayers and Obama that almost assuredly came from the same source: Ayers, a former merchant seaman.

* The discovery of a Bill Ayers' essay on memoir writing, whose postmodern themes and phrases are echoed throughout Dreams.

* A newly discovered book chapter from 1990 that shows clearly and painfully the limits of Obama's prose style the year he received a contract to write Dreams.

* The revelation by radical Islamicist Rashid Khalidi that Ayers made his "dining room table" available for neighborhood writers who needed help.

* A refined timeline that shows Ayers had the means, the motive and the time to help Obama when he needed it most.

Spinoffs.

Not sure I buy it. There's nothing concrete in the allegations.

Where is anyone who used to work with him? Be his friend? Have they all been paid off? Or is the Kool Aid that strong? We've all practically been invited into Palin's home for a sandwich and this guy has not one friend, associate or most importantly family member that can say ANYTHING about him? What are you afraid of?

The MSM has declared any Ayers/Obama connections, no matter how deep, are unimportant and will not report on them, no matter what. If they did, it might help McCain win, and they can't have that.

re: #24 Charles

That's a distraction. The real connections are incriminating enough.

not to me. who can say for sure this isn't a real connection?

re: #32 notutopia

wide stance! WIDE STANCE!
Now let me eat my waffle!

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

Do you actually think we might ever get to that point?

God forbid Obamania that extreme.

#29
The corruption of the media is breath taking. Confidence in the integrity of our entire nation is being undermined as a result. One has to look no further than our financial markets to see what can quickly happen when confidence is lost in systems dependent upon it. We stand on the precipice. The last time this nation was in this position was the 1860s.

But who has Joe the Plumber worked with?! Eye on the ball, people!

It wasn't like they shared a cell or something.

re: #22 opnion

FNC reported earlier about a prof from the University of Chicago who used to have lunch with Barry quite a bit.
He claims in his words that Obama is the most Marxist individual ever to run for the Presidency. I can not recall his name, but they did name him

Here's a link to the original source. Name not given, I'd want to be anonymous if I were that guy.

re: #34 sarabeara

Where is anyone who used to work with him? Be his friend? Have they all been paid off? Or is the Kool Aid that strong? We've all practically been invited into Palin's home for a sandwich and this guy has not one friend, associate or most importantly family member that can say ANYTHING about him? What are you afraid of?

I assume that Michelle as lovely as she is was not the first girlfriend.
Where are the rest?

"He's just a guy in my neighborhood whose goals and view of America matches mine and so donated time and money to my campaign, and who worked with me to change educational policy in Chicago in radical ways."

re: #41 BakaRanger

Yet.

re: #41 BakaRanger

or soap on a rope...

re: #43 opnion

I assume that Michelle as lovely as she is was not the first girlfriend.
Where are the rest?

The One does not play the field.

/geez.

But, but, but, he was only 8 years old and junk...

re: #44 nikis-knight

"He's just a guy in my neighborhood whose goals and view of America matches mine and so donated time and money to my campaign, and who worked with me to change educational policy in Chicago in radical ways."

Exactly. I still say it's the shared agenda that counts.

re: #47 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The One does not play the field.

/geez.

Silly me.

Pay not attention to the man behind the curtain!

re: #31 quickjustice

Me too? What have I done other than read the PDF, compare it rationally to objectively verifiable reality, and sense its truthful component?

Is someone trying to 'debunk' this, Justice?

re: #40 Sharmuta

Joe the Plumber is an enabler for bitter clingers to practice hygiene habits. Why hasn't he been indicted yet?

Needed a magizine/flyer stand (for a table)..

Office Dept 19.99
Office Max 15.89
Wal-Mart 12.99

So I shopped at Wal-Mart. Ran into the magazine section to see what is new....stumbles across Time magazine...on the cover

"Economy trumphs race"
"Whites flock to Obama"

There are a dozen things wrong with that cover, but are you to do?

re: #43 opnion

On different islands in the Caribbean!

re: jaunte
115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago is not a huge building. Looks like 5 stories.

In fact they were both on the 3rd Floor.

re: #46 Kostya Lotz

I kinda prefer 'dope on a hope'. For Obama, I mean.

re: #47 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The One does not play the field.

/geez.

She may have been the only girl(friend) ..... but maybe not the only person he was sleeping with ........he lived with the guy from Pakistan for two years in New York ....... but he is gagged ....

Big difference between guy in the neighborhood and guy in the next room

NY Times and Wash Post will be all over this as soon as they can free the 20 staffers from the Joe the Plumber front page stories and Sarah Palin's garbage cans

re: #52 Karridine

You should see the lickin' I took on the previous thread as a useful idiot and a crank for even mentioning it. Good luck! ;-)

Fox has a good piece on this, right now.

So, the media has turned into the Goebbels branch of the Democrat party? Ignoring any negative for their beloved leader, acting as a character assassination unit for anyone who dares to question "The One." Vilification of any member of an opposing party, truth be damned. And when the "fairness" doctrine gets foisted upon us, conservative will be unfair, liberalism will be "fair."

If Ayres had bombed newspaper offices instead of military buildings, would things have been different?

Not being alive in the 1920's in Germany to see it happen...

Did Germans back then feel the same "Who, or What, is this Hitler fellow, anyway?" the same way I feel it about this Obama person?

A small sampling of "Obama: The Lost Years"?

/The MSM doesn't think this is important. However, if Joe the Plumber had worked in the same office building at the same time as Ayers did then all hell would break loose.

We were just stomping on flags around the neighborhood together.

The last quote on the screen was from the Scobnob guy's radio show ........

re: #55 notutopia

On different islands in the Caribbean!

And the Pahkeestahani roommate from college will not talk.

Fox news replaying an Obama lie: "Ultimately I learned" (about Ayers connection with the Weathermen) "but I was eight years old at the time."
That is one hell of a lie.

re: #60 quickjustice

Thanks for replying in a timely, courteous manner.

Checking out previous thread now.

re: #59 ironbill

Big difference between guy in the neighborhood and guy in the next room

NY Times and Wash Post will be all over this as soon as they can free the 20 staffers from the Joe the Plumber front page stories and Sarah Palin's garbage cans

How do you know a NYT reporter was at your house?

Your trash cans are empty and your dog id pregnant.

Charles, a day or two ago, someone posted a link to an analysis of MSM stories, Foley vs the Democrat who has a sex problem. It was something like 150 anti-Foley stories to ZERO on the Dem. We could us a thread on this.

Obama showed him the money. Big money.

This Chicago Annenberg Challenge website from 2002 shows the total amount of funds given to Bill Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop from 1995 to 2001. The amount is not the $175K I had reported earlier. According to this page, the total given under Barack Obama’s direct supervision was $1,056,162. Adding that amount to the money given by the Joyce Foundation and Woods Fund during Obama’s tenure brings the grand total to $1,968,718.

re: #21 Karridine

And THIS (PDF) may be THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INSIGHT into Obama:
He consciously, professionally and smoothly PRACTICES MASS HYPNOSIS in his speeches!

NLP, Ericksonian hypnosis, like the best of practitioners!

Milton Erickson was the best - a teacher of mine in the 70's studied with him and was one of the team that developed the "Milton Model" for NLP.

Back in the early 90's Tony Robbins (NLP Master) was summoned by Clinton and he went ... much to my dismay.

re: #54 Dave the.....

Call Time a "liberal rag" and move on.

/My late grandfather described Time as a "liberal rag" to some saleswoman trying to sign him up for a subscription.

Just a guy on my street, foundation, office, living room, baby sat my kids while I laundered money from the Annenbergs.

Someone needs to find out the layout of that building. It's highly likely they actually shared the same office. Usually when there are multiple offices on a floor you'd see "Ste 301", "Ste 303" in the address or something like that. When it's just "3rd Floor" it probably means it was all one office. I actually worked in a building where each floor was a single office once.

The dream of the left is to get a Marxist elected President. They will not allow truth get in their way.

I think quite a large number of the left agree with Ayers, and hate their country.

re: #13 MandyManners

They could both have sex with goats on the steps of the Capitol building at high noon and the MSM would ignore them.

Pali prOn?

re: #67 opnion

Paahk E stan. Obama pronunciation

re: #15 alien_mind

i'm still looking for more information on the idea that Ayers actually wrote or helped to write Obama's book. the little I read on it seemed very compelling.

There's no way to prove it. The statistical and word-frequency analysis I've read is interesting, and I'm fairly convinced by it. But without finding, say, a draft on Ayers' computer, we're not going to prove it.

re: #33 Noam Sayin'

Spinoffs.

Not sure I buy it. There's nothing concrete in the allegations.

i see some very unusual coincidences in what the author laid out. Obama never wrote anything well prior to this book, and the references and literary style in the Dreams book mirror things that Ayers had written. I don't doubt that they collaborated, but there is probably no way to prove it.

re: #32 notutopia

The same address and the same floor? Perhaps they ran into each other in the Men's room?

A Liberal and a Terrorist are in the same restroom. The Terrorist finishes first and starts to leave without washing. "Hey!" the Liberal says, "At Harvard, they taught us to wash our hands after using the restroom!"

The Terrorist turns around and smiles "They taught us in Terrorist School not to urinate on our hands!"

/Apologies to my military friends, where this joke was born.

re: #47 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The One does not play the field.

/geez.

DBKP differs. It's just not the field you might expect.

I think that we are missing the point. McCain as a yout had Lefist associations too. However they were torturing him.

re: #77 3 wood

No, they don't hate America...

/it's just that they love America so much that they feel it needs to be destroyed (to paraphrase An American Carol).

So he worked down the hall from ayers. That pales in comparison to the fact Joe the Plumber has a lien. I mean- it's not like Dear Leader would be associated with horrible people who have tax liens like Joe the Plumber!

Ooopsie!

Martin Nesbitt, the treasurer of Obama’s campaign, has tax liens. So do his companies.

re: #73 Bobibutu

You know about Ericksonian hypnosis? What you YOU think about the article (linked above) suggesting that Obama uses these techniques of mass hypnosis in his speeches?

Whatever happened to the news about the short pot-bellied dictator of North Korea supposedly dying?

Obama is really going to complain(WHINE) about Fox and how he doing in the polls after the show they are doing tonight.....so far they have covered ACORN and Ayers, and doing a really good job at it IMHO.... LOL LOL LOL....and Greta just brought up the the Rev. Wright!

re: #80 Dianna

There's no way to prove it. The statistical and word-frequency analysis I've read is interesting, and I'm fairly convinced by it. But without finding, say, a draft on Ayers' computer, we're not going to prove it.

Would be nice. Sure would show that Ayers wasn't just a "guy in my neighborhood."

I'm pissed that McCain never mentioned Klonsky and Annenburg when the education reform question came near the end of the last debate

Klonsky got a boat load of cash thanks to the Obamessiah signing off on it and then proceeded to piss it away on personal uses and multi-culti education reform

re: #38 ClosetConservative

I will laugh at them. In their face. For 16 years.

I want to see Obama wearing an "I spent 500 million...and all I got was this lousy t-shirt"

re: #81 alien_mind

i see some very unusual coincidences in what the author laid out. Obama never wrote anything well prior to this book, and the references and literary style in the Dreams book mirror things that Ayers had written. I don't doubt that they collaborated, but there is probably no way to prove it.

Maybe thatis why Obama submitted nothing to Law Review, Ayers was not available.

By the way, gas is down to $2.76 here.

I'm waiting for Obama to take credit.

re: #34 sarabeara

We've all practically been invited into Palin's home for a sandwich...

Sarah isn't ever at home to provide sandwiches when I drop by. Her people tell me that she's out stealing Obama's (Halloween be his name) lunch money.

re: #30 thebigolddog

From American Thinker:

Evidence Mounts: Ayers Co-Wrote Obama's Dreams

I read the entire article and I find it quite persuasive. It looks like Ayers did indeed write Obama's lousy book.

Remember, folks - the women who wear these shoes are all voting for Obama.

Look at all the pics, too. Obviously the designers were on some bad brownies when they came up with these babies.

I'm sure the Alaska-dumpster-diving-Plumber-Joe-is-an-enemy-of- the-state-Tanning-bed- media --will get right on this...

(If this were about McCain they would)

re: #89 Inquisitive

Sadly, the ones who most to see these things do not watch Fox.

I have it on also...

re: #79 notutopia

Paahk E stan. Obama pronunciation

Pock-e-ston and Towel-e-bon. Mark Levin was making fun of The One™ about this last week, how he pronounces them like muslims from the middle east do. Too damn funny!

re: #94 3 wood

By the way, gas is down to $2.76 here.

I'm waiting for Obama to take credit.

Hey, 3 wood...hope you're well tonight.

Gas is $2.44 here.

re: #64 mitthrawnurdo

Nope,
I may be too young to have been around during the WU/SDS hey-day but what I have read points to the fact that the media was on the side of Ayers back then too. Journalists have been purveyors of social change forever, that is the main reason for the first amendment.

re: #87 quickjustice

You know about Ericksonian hypnosis? What you YOU think about the article (linked above) suggesting that Obama uses these techniques of mass hypnosis in his speeches?

High possibility - I have not personally examined his speeches in detail but from what I have seen and listened to he has to have been exposed to this technology and is using it. Any competent salesperson who ignores it is leaving a lot of money on the table.

re: #36 alien_mind

not to me. who can say for sure this isn't a real connection?

I think the evidence Cashill puts forth is compelling, but it would take someone to come forward and say they knew it to be true, because they were involved. I understand Obama burned some publishing bridges (as people often seem to do when they have a successful book), and there is at least one person out there who has a reason to narc on him - but I doubt anything will come of it, even if there is something to it. I happen to think there is, after reading all four of Cashill's pieces on it and hearing him on two radio shows. (I think one of the shows was Michael Medved...the other was a Seattle guy whose show runs just locally.) He sounds VERY credible.

re: #58 JacksonTn

So you're saying he's gay too?

(ducks and runs)

re: #80 Dianna

There's no way to prove it. The statistical and word-frequency analysis I've read is interesting, and I'm fairly convinced by it. But without finding, say, a draft on Ayers' computer, we're not going to prove it.

agree. I am nearly sure of it, but see no real hope of proving it.

re: #97 Intrepid

Remember, folks - the women who wear these shoes are all voting for Obama.

Look at all the pics, too. Obviously the designers were on some bad brownies when they came up with these babies.

Anybody dumb enough to wear those should not be allowed to vote.

If Timothy McVie had escaped on a technicality, would BHO play golf with him? If Charles Manson was free, could he host a BHO fund raiser? Would BHO hire OJ as a bodyguard. (Uh, oh. Was that a racist comment?)

Bill Ayers should be a pariah to any reasonable, patriotic person. Anyone who defends that nut is neither patriotic nor reasonable.

re: #27 jaunte

115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago is not a huge building. Looks like 5 stories.

Look at it using bird's eye view on MSN Live Search Maps. There is NO WAY you could not run into each other OFTEN. Do you think they did a Top Gun High five as they passed?

For all those who are lamenting the polls and the msm....

VOTE!

If enough of us do what we know to be right, all will turn out right

And tell your friends and neighbors to do the right thing

God Bless America

Together we can beat the existential threat Obama represents

re: #77 3 wood

Hey Wood! How's the new job?

re: #94 3 wood

By the way, gas is down to $2.76 here.

I'm waiting for Obama to take credit.

2.29 here at a few stations here.

re: #34 sarabeara

For all we can tell, Barack Obama was an untouched virgin when he married WAB. I've heard of no ex-girlfriends, lovers, or even friends that you could go to to get a feel for who the real Barack Obama is. He is truly a self-made man, in that he appears to have manufactured himself from moon beams and happy thoughts.

He is a scary, scary man.

Watching Greta, she played the clip of Wright damning my country, the revulsion and anger was every bit as great as the first time I heard it.

Good night Dear Lizards. When we go to the reeducation camp, I have dibs on the top bunk.

re: #113 Iron Fist

he appears to have manufactured himself from moon beams and happy thoughts

Unicorns! Where are the Unicorns?!

re: #101 jorline

Hey, 3 wood...hope you're well tonight.

Gas is $2.44 here.

I'm very well, thank you.

I remember when gas was going up it was all Bush's fault. Funny how now that prices are dropping you don't hear anything the opposite.

re: #117 3 wood

Okay, I'll blame Bush.

re: #73 Bobibutu

Yes Erickson was a genuine contributor to Psychiatry and Hypnosis and NLP.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The issue here is that until a Forensic Psychiatrist publishes an article that validates Obama skills, we have no right to validated evidence that Obama is practicing group hypnosis.
Know of someone who meets these credentials who is willing/able to put his/her ideology aside for no monetary gain and risk the jeopardy of their professional career for his/her clinical diagnosis of Obama before this election? It would be helpful to have that person be an understudy of the NLP foundation.

re: #96 infidel Alan

I read the entire article and I find it quite persuasive. It looks like Ayers did indeed write Obama's lousy book.

If you think the book was lousy, you ought to google up Obama's two published poems. Find a nice cuckoo clock loop to play as a bed if you choose to read them aloud.

A taste:

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.

NLP, Ericksonian hypnosis, like the best of practitioners!

That is scary but how do you "unhypnotize" the masses?

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Wood! How's the new job?

Going great. They are really happy to have me, I have my own office, get left alone to get my work done, decent pay, earning credit toward a 2nd pension, I am truly blessed.

BTW MSM good things happening in Iraq any chance we will hear about it. Yes there were protests, but the fact that they could protest is sorta the point

re: #74 mitthrawnurdo

Call Time a "liberal rag" and move on.

You ought to pick one up (with protective gloves) long enough to read the Letters to the Editor. People are calling them on the BS.

re: #117 3 wood

The media-made Messiah spoke, which is why gas is going down.

re: #90 ciaospirit

Would be nice. Sure would show that Ayers wasn't just a "guy in my neighborhood."

I have never believed that line, any more than you do. And yes, a smoking gun proof would be nice.

re: #99 NY Nana

Sadly, the ones who most to see these things do not watch Fox.
I have it on also...

I know, I know.....that is what I tell my hubby when he says how can people still be voting for "that one" after watching Hannity or some of the other shows.....and I tell him remember a lot of people are not seeing this....some don't even have cable and are getting all there news from ABC, CBS, NBC....who are all in 'that ones" camp.....and a lot don't even bother to pay any attention to the news at all. HOW SAD!

re: #112 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

2.29 here at a few stations here.

That is the equivalent of a huge pay increase. It increases discretionary income.

re: #117 3 wood

I'm very well, thank you.

I remember when gas was going up it was all Bush's fault. Funny how now that prices are dropping you don't hear anything the opposite.

Bush can't win for lose...damned if you do...damned if you don't.

But he does have the #1 box office movie this week.
//

re: #121 Maui Girl

You call in a plumber from Ohio...

re: #125 mitthrawnurdo

The media-made Messiah spoke, which is why gas is going down.

I remember Bill Clinton taking credit for a drop in interest rates before he even got elected. You watch, the MSM will do the same with Obama.

Why are they giving Obama girl a f*cking gig on Geraldo? That is the girl who did the video right? .......

re: #115 opnion

Good night Dear Lizards. When we go to the reeducation camp, I have dibs on the top bunk.

That depends on how sharp your elbows are.

/

It sounds reasonable that BHO's books were at least ghost-written. From what I hear, they are well-written, and BHO has written nothing before or since - not even an academic paper. Not even a law, for I've heard.

Ayers has the experience, and the perspective, but the evidence seems inconclusive. It does seem like there's lower-hanging fruit.

re: #123 ACJohn

BTW MSM good things happening in Iraq any chance we will hear about it. Yes there were protests, but the fact that they could protest is sorta the point

The protests were from Muqi's gang of thugs, too. (Muqtada al-Sadr)
The media adores the thugs and enemies of freedom in Iraq.

Muqi's protests make the media all giddy.

#43

I assume that Michelle as lovely as she is

You're kidding right? If not, beauty truly is in the eyes of the beholder.

Gotta run.

Good night folks

This thing on FNC is really good. I wish they had been aware of this office connection before it aired.

I'm out - take care!

re: #122 3 wood

Going great. They are really happy to have me, I have my own office, get left alone to get my work done, decent pay, earning credit toward a 2nd pension, I am truly blessed.

Awesome!

Gee, gas is down to $4.20 here! Woohoo!

re: #141 Maui Girl

Gee, gas is down to $4.20 here! Woohoo!

How high was it?

re: #121 Maui Girl

De-program them or RE-program (in a morally defensible manner) OR call foul!, as the US Supreme Court has consistently ruled that mass-hypnosis DEPRIVES people of their fundamental rights under the Constitution, Maui...

And Obama's VERY GOOD AT IT! He's doing it ON PURPOSE, not by accident or coincidence...

re: #125 mitthrawnurdo

The media-made Messiah spoke, which is why gas is going down.

Until this morning, I too, believed it was pretty much solely the media's doing, but after reading the analysis of how Obama hypnotized his crowds, and programmed them to see him dividing the seas from ABOVE, and see the 'light from above', I've changed my mind on HOW Obama became associated with The Messiah in the minds of hundreds of thousands of unwitting Americans listening at his speeches...

Say - why do I keep hearing that the BHO-Ayers connection only goes back to 1995? Didn't BHO and wife work at the same law firm as Ayers' wife, starting in 1988-89? Isn't it reasonable to assume the same guy who got the terrorist a job there (Ayers' father) also got BHO his job there?

BHO met Michelle there (right?), but it seems like too much of a coincidence that BHO just happened to show up there, after having lived near him @ Columbia and having hung out with all the same sorts of leftist radicals. Are we to assume Ayers & his two side-kicks picked someone they didn't know to spend their $100M+ ?

re: #145 Optimizer

Everyone in the MSM and Obama campaign have been hypnotized to lie, lie, lie whenever anything negative or questionable is said about "The One". I've listened to Obama and find his voice so "droning on". Great alternative to Tylenol PM.

No friends from college...
No one remembers him at Columbia.
No one remembers him at Harvard.
No grades.
No girlfriends
No boyfriends
No trail at all...........

There has to be something, somewhere....

The film of him campaigning in Kenya for the Communist is a good place to start. How now one mentions this is beyond me...how does a US Senator get involved in another country like that? And don't tell me about "dual" citizenship. That is a crock in my mind...you cannot be a slave to two masters...(oh, I guess I should have used a less offensive quote).

Follow the money. Follow the alliances. Follow the truth....or else we will:

Follow the 0 off the cliff.

re: #142 capitalist piglet

It was up to almost $5.50 at it's peak. I remember paying $85 to put about 16 gals. in the tank. Good thing I only travel 10 miles a day on avg. to and from work.

That was not the Office Building I one knew.

/The One off

Google Map it. Might as shared a porta pottie.

re: #147 yesandno

No friends from college...
No one remembers him at Columbia.
No one remembers him at Harvard.
No grades.
No girlfriends
No boyfriends
No trail at all...........

There has to be something, somewhere....

The film of him campaigning in Kenya for the Communist is a good place to start. How now one mentions this is beyond me...how does a US Senator get involved in another country like that? And don't tell me about "dual" citizenship. That is a crock in my mind...you cannot be a slave to two masters...(oh, I guess I should have used a less offensive quote).

Follow the money. Follow the alliances. Follow the truth....or else we will:

Follow the 0 off the cliff.

It is baffling how this Odinga incident has not gone viral. It is so weird, a US senator with a bull-horn in hand at a rally in Kenya for his Muslim Cousin Odinga, who lost an election, trying to get the masses all jazzed up for violence. Amazing.

re: #108 SlartyBartfast

If Timothy McVie had escaped on a technicality, would BHO play golf with him? If Charles Manson was free, could he host a BHO fund raiser? Would BHO hire OJ as a bodyguard. (Uh, oh. Was that a racist comment?)

Bill Ayers should be a pariah to any reasonable, patriotic person. Anyone who defends that nut is neither patriotic nor reasonable.

Don't stop there. Would all the people who were 8 years old in 2001 be able to associate with Osama Bin Laden in twenty years. After all, Osama has not been convicted of any crime, and he feels he did not do enough, and Ayers and Obama had some of the same bombing targets.

Obama, Osama, its a typo. Its hard to tell the difference.

Do you actually think we might ever get to that point?

God forbid Obamania that extreme.

******STOP! Too freaking funny!

re: #119 notutopia

Yes Erickson was a genuine contributor to Psychiatry and Hypnosis and NLP.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The issue here is that until a Forensic Psychiatrist publishes an article that validates Obama skills, we have no right to validated evidence that Obama is practicing group hypnosis.
Know of someone who meets these credentials who is willing/able to put his/her ideology aside for no monetary gain and risk the jeopardy of their professional career for his/her clinical diagnosis of Obama before this election? It would be helpful to have that person be an understudy of the NLP foundation.

We have a right to ascertain and condemn Obama's mass-hypnosis because we have a competent analysis, rendered in accessible English, with video links, so that WE MAY MAKE COMPETENT ASSESSMENTS of the question of Obama's use of mass-hypnotic techniques, for ourselves.

In this day, we HAVE an obligation to ourselves to investigate the truth of reality, independently and to the best of our ability, NoToUtopia...

This isn't something that ONLY SPECIALISTS can understand, and the PDF does a good job of demonstrating WHAT and WHY Obama is doing it.

re: #119 notutopia

The article describes the "Milton Model" as the theoretical basis for what Obama does in using hypnotic language in his speeches. It'll be interesting to see whether that basis is eventually exposed.

re: #21 Karridine

And THIS (PDF) may be THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT INSIGHT into Obama:
He consciously, professionally and smoothly PRACTICES MASS HYPNOSIS in his speeches!

NLP, Ericksonian hypnosis, like the best of practitioners!

Am on page 24 of this, and it's fascinating! I'm sure a LOT of people would be PISSED if they knew what was going on in their brains...
I want to learn these techniques, if only to convince others of what the hell has been planted in their subconscious unwillingly...

re: #156 quickjustice

Concur yr analysis...

I've had first-hand experience with this stuff in college... although the media will NOT WANT to cover this unless forced to do so, Justice

re: #157 mamashawna

Page 39, Shawna...

CORE MANIPULATION!

its ONE THING to do this, with respect and privacy and consent, to aid a sufferer with a problem, but ANOTHER THING ENTIRELY to inflict this on 8,000 people in a rally!

If history proves to repeat itself, Greta will be correct about The One just as much as she was about O.J. You go, Greta!

re: #155 Karridine

I've read it. The whole damned thing. I have some understanding of the technique, but I'm not at all certain that it can be considered as compelling evidence. We've all seen the 'rapture' of young people drawn so strongly to images and sounds that it is hard to get through to them - unless you pull the plug on the television. I'm however not convinced that he has the same effect when he's not "running the script". Joe the Plumber is a perfect example here.

re: #161 Cap'n DOC

I've read it. The whole damned thing. I have some understanding of the technique, but I'm not at all certain that it can be considered as compelling evidence. We've all seen the 'rapture' of young people drawn so strongly to images and sounds that it is hard to get through to them - unless you pull the plug on the television. I'm however not convinced that he has the same effect when he's not "running the script". Joe the Plumber is a perfect example here.

Cap'n, you have made my case!

Obama cannot do it unless he's running his practiced, scripted hypnotic techniques! That is underlined BY the Joe incident!

re: #159 Karridine

Will have to get through the whole thing...too tired from hauling firewood today to properly absorb it all right now...but I agree that it's not right to inflict it to unknowing persons...especially to thousands at a time. What's so frustrating is that there are SO MANY people who just do NOT want to engage their brains...better to turn on the boob tube and not think about it!

How is the situation in Thailand, by the way?

They're going after Joe's driver license now.

re: #127 Inquisitive

It is just sad. Here we are nearing the end of what seems to be the most important election in our history, with what should be Job One for every single American of voting age, because of the totally ludicrous presence of the real Manchurian candidate, Obama.

Anyone want to bet on the number of people who have not one clue as to which party the candidates are in, what their issues are, what they hope to do when in office, etc.?

It seems to be an inverse ratio: the more that is known, the fewer who give a damn or even vote...

And these same robots are the ones who also 'missed' the photos and the news on TV showing the utter joy in the faces of Iraqi voters when they voted freely for the first time.

Voting is a privilege, and a right. There should be far more involved citizens who actually have a clue. We can never, ever afford the luxury of not voting...and there is no such thing as a perfect candidate. They are human, like the rest of us...only Hussein thinks he is better than anyone else on this planet or any other...and being a narcissist egomaniac is not exactly a qualification for any public office, or even for a garbage collector.

McCain/Palin 2008! John Bolton for Sec. of State in the McCain administration!

/End of rant!

re: #165 NY Nana

WHAT SHE SAID!

Psh...who cares about that? It's not like it's relevant that Obama is a Marxist liar with extremely questionable political alliances and dangerous policies.

Hey! Did you know Joe the plumber ripped the tags off of his mattress 4 years ago? Twenty-two reporters from the New York Times, Newsweek, The Atlantic and Politico confirm it.

re: #162 Karridine

A few weeks back, I believe after the first debate, he started using the teleprompter at the rallies. I remember mention of him using it in the middle of a rodeo arena. He is not good without the teleprompt. Frankly, I thought he got of lucky in all three of the debates - he cannot speak to the issues without sticking to his talking points. That's why his party fears Gov. Pailin so much. She is sincere. Even with a script, and I'm certain she sticks to one most of the time, she comes across as sincere - and believable.

Those of us who have some experience at debating (six years for me) can recognize certain things about how words are delivered - and body language to go with them - hand gestures. You'll notice that Senator McCain comes across stiffly - through no fault of his own. But Senator Obama - he is a SpaceInvader. You notice any time he is close, as in with Joe, he put his hand to his shoulder. If you watch, you'll see almost a defensive reaction by Joe. He attempts to control, and does I'm certain feel he is coming from a powerful position when he speaks the words that he chooses to speak with the body language to go with them.

I'm am not at all prepared to say that I'm convinced he has been trained to do it - although he may not even know that he's been trained. What I see in the behavior (most of it blind) of those who see him as a messiah of sorts leads me to believe that he may very well be doing as the article suggests.

However - there are far greater reasons to find fault with the man in the near term.

re: #166 mamashawna

;)

re: #167 PowerPro

Psh...who cares about that? It's not like it's relevant that Obama is a Marxist liar with extremely questionable political alliances and dangerous policies.

Hey! Did you know Joe the plumber ripped the tags off of his mattress 4 years ago? Twenty-two reporters from the New York Times, Newsweek, The Atlantic and Politico confirm it.

He bought a mattress? Mattresses are expensive. Where did he get the money? His tax returns say he makes $41,847 a year, and he should have paid his taxes first, the CHEAT. He isn't even a real plumber. He doesn't have a license! McCain should never have opened his big mouth. This guy is obviously a Repuglican plant.

/ obamabot

re: #170 capitalist piglet

We're all Joe.

re: #72 ciaospirit

Barack "Barry the Bagman" Obama. Wonder who else he was a bagman for?

Apparently SNL is on out east...is anyone here watching?

re: #173 capitalist piglet

I am....but I will not give one thing away. Not one thing.

All I will say is the POS, Alec Baldwin, is the host.

re: #163 mamashawna

Sunday morning here, Mama... inflicting chores on reluctant but cooperative teen sons!

Safe and (currently) sunny, but heavy rains last night and cloudy skies today!

Get some sleep, Kiddo

re: #176 NY Nana

Alec Baldwin is not the host!

Yaaaaaayyyyyyy!

re: #5 snowcrash

Ayers has a history of such things.

re: #178 NY Nana

But the host is almost as bad as Baldwin. Almost.

re: #168 Cap'n DOC

Roger your analysis, Cap'n...

Key here is your, "... he may not even know that he's been trained..." In any case, there are larger LOGICAL issues, but this issue of dealing immorally and illegally with the people who personally attend his speeches is still a significant one, and one which we'll watch closely in the future!

I appreciate your feedback, Cap'n

re: #155 Karridine

I did NLP training here in Houston and perhaps that is one reason why I cannot stand to listen his BS. Did it more for the therapy than use. Should have kept on with it. Got a bunch of the books.

re: #93 opnion

Maybe thatis why Obama submitted nothing to Law Review, Ayers was not available.

re: #147 yesandno

No friends from college...
No one remembers him at Columbia.
No one remembers him at Harvard.
No grades.
No girlfriends
No boyfriends
No trail at all...........

There has to be something, somewhere....

The film of him campaigning in Kenya for the Communist is a good place to start. How now one mentions this is beyond me...how does a US Senator get involved in another country like that? And don't tell me about "dual" citizenship. That is a crock in my mind...you cannot be a slave to two masters...(oh, I guess I should have used a less offensive quote).

Follow the money. Follow the alliances. Follow the truth....or else we will:

Follow the 0 off the cliff.

The More Soros-Obama Connections thread lead me to a search on Cassandra Butts. Found this:

We Knew Them When...

Listen to the Interview with Cassandra Butts on Sen. Obama

In the MP3 audio of the interview (my transcription):

@01:30
interviewer: You've known Barack since 1988. How did you meet him?
Cassandra: We met our first year in law school. We were initially at the Financial Aid Office...

@02:15
Cassandra: We realized we both had some experiences that were in common. We'd both travelled in Africa, before coming to the law school, Barack in Kenya and I had travelled in Zimbabwe, and Baswana, and Zambia.

@06:20
interviewer: I think he was the first African-American to be elected editor of the Harvard Law Review. But for those who don't know about what that means, what does it take to get that position. Why was that important?
Cassandra: I don't know if it was necessarily important for Barack, but it is the primier journal at the Law School. There's a writing competition at the end of the first year, and they look at your writing, and they judge that, and they combine that with your grades and they make a determination. So it's really selective...

@08:20
interviewer: One of the discussions that has emerged since his announcement, or swirling around his announcement, is this whole question of his identity. Is he a traditional authentic African-American. Is he black enough? You know, in short. Did those conversations take place? When you all were at Harvard Law School?
Cassandra: No. When Barack wakes up in the morning, he looks in the mirror, he sees a black man, and he identifies as that black man. And when people see him, they see him as a black man. And that's been my experience with him. That was never an issue.

@12:35
Cassandra: He was really *thrust* forward, in his leadership.

@14:15
interviewer: Cassandra Butts is the Senior Vice President for Domestic Policy at the Center for American Progress, a progressive think tank. She's a friend of Barack Obama's...

I've read (heard?) somewhere recently that Barack's thesis was about Soviet Nuclear Disarmament. And Harvard won't realease any info about that or his grades.

Don't know about you guys, but comment #2 providing the time line in Barry Hussein's life is at least as interesting as the sharing of the office building with Ayers.

The critical and crucial role played by Michelle is fascinating - from her job mentoring the new lawyer BHO at the law office, to her connection with Dohrn at the same law firm.

Makes me wonder why Michelle has been deep-sixed from the campaign. Or, if she has been present recently, has she just been a 'behind the lectern' prop? Somehow she just does not fit that subservient, political wife pattern.

Something is rotten in Chicago. How come the press have left her alone? The MSM has certainly crawled through Cindy McCain's life.

[Some time in early 2009 when Obama announces his cabinet]

Obama: I am proud to announce my appointment of my good friend William “Wild Bill” Ayers” as Secretary of Defense.

He is a skilled warrior who knows how to whip our sagging military into shape – the kind of shape it will take to keep those bible thumping, gun clinging KKK Joe Plumbers in their place. Bill, I think the American people will be surprise at your performance in this important post.

I am also am righteously proud to announce esteemed law professor Bernardine Dohrn will be our new head of the Justice Department. Would you like to say a few words to public Doctor Dohrn?

Dohrn: I would be happy to. My hero Charles Manson will soon be released from our repressive prison system… I remember those wonderful days of rage. I said "Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them. They even shoved a fork into the victim's stomach! Wild!" [As she gives the “fork” salutes to both Obama and Ayers]

/

re: #185 Ledger1

Oh My God!

to think that this is closer to truth than to parody!

/good post, Ledger!

The most troubling thing about Obama is how close he is to becoming president. Obama is not the problem, Obama is the SYMPTOM. This country is dead if this is the kind of man who can win an election for the highest office in the land.

These guys have more unbelievable coincidences than a Dickens novel.

I'm confused. I checked out the street view and 115 Sangamon couldn't be the 5 story building mentioned earlier. The 5 story is on the even numbered side of the block. Am I missing something?

[Link: maps.google.com...]

re: #145 Optimizer

There's speculation that Obama first met Ayers at Columbia, where Ayers was studying at Teacher's College. Ayers saw Obama's charisma and potential, and adopted him. We know that the Ayers family (Ayers's father Tom, as well as Bill Ayers himself) used their influence and connection to advance Obama's career. (Tom Ayers was the wealthy and connected former chairman of Commonwealth Edison in Chicago.) That chronology would explain a lot.

He's just a guy at the water cooler!

He's just a guy I ride to and from work with who lives in the neighborhood, who hangs out at the office water cooler, who navigates well in the Chicago political alleys and gutters, who loves nothing more in his mid-life than to step on a few US Flags, I bet he supports our troops, too or at least the ones he would like to blow-up some, just a guy who made me into millionaire in just a couple of years by writing 2 books for me when he took a break in writing his owns books (the time line has been proved and documented), whose wife worked with my wife and she might have been a baby-sitter for us, too, just a guy who happened to bomb some stuff with his future wife when I was 8, who has paid me tons of money to sit on boards and distribute tons of money to my fellow socialist friends so we can indoctrinate the system from within for the change and hope to come, who has the same heroes as I do and shares respect for my mentors, oh, did I mention, who is rich, has always been from money and who like me yearns to shed his whitenicity, history and future, who wants to spread a little socialism to the masses starting with your kids and their teachers, who wishes he had bombed more, who also hates America, who hates her flag just like me, who I know would also refuse to pay the least bit of homage to the old Pledge Of Allegiance since he and we hate the US, who has a wife who mirrors the attitude of my wife and btw, they hate America, too. Wouldn't it be cool to blow some crap up and maybe kill some pigs like the guy from my office but I was only 8 at the time and living in Indonesia, I think back when I was waiting in the lobby during a visit to the Embassy in Indonesia where I saw all those dastardly articles about chemical experiments on American Blacks to change their skin color in 1970, I think...self-loathing can last a lifetime if it helps you politically, socially, financially, educationally and spiritually, I suppose. BUT I DO NOT KNOW WILLIAM AYERS. HE IS NOT MY FRIEND. HE IS A TANGENTIAL ACQUAINTANCE TO ME. WELL, NOT REALLY AN ACQUAINTANCE BUT MORE LIKE A GHOST BUT NOT LIKE A GHOST OR GHOST WRITER BUT MORE LIKE A SHADOW BUT NOT EXACTLY LIKE A SHADOWY FIGURE WHO I KNOW BUT MORE LIKE A THOUGHT OR IDEA OR A WHISPER OF A PERSON BUT MORE LIKE HE DOES NOT EXIST, HE NEVER EXISTED AND WE NEVER SHARED ANYTHING TOGETHER AND NEITHER DID OUR WIVES BUT I MEANT TO SAY I HAVE A WIFE BUT HOW COULD HE BECAUSE HE DOES NOT, DID NOT AND WILL NOT EXIST, I THINK, MAYBE, PROBABLY...NO, POSSIBLY AND NOT PROBABLE AT ALL AND I HAVE RETURNED ALL THE MONEY HE HAS OR HAS NOT GIVEN ME ANY MONEY OVER THE YEARS THAT I HAVE NOT KNOWN HIM BECAUSE HE DOES NOT EXIST AND IF HE EVER DID HE IS SURELY NOT THE BILL AYERS I DID NOT KNOW. THIS IS ALL DISTRACTIONS!

re: #34 sarabeara

You have to understand, and this may sound too conspiratorial. In Hyde Park, the group that Obama runs with are indeed Marxists. They won't talk. Obama was very insular in his relationships. They were in a closed network. You had to pass a social "test" to get in-prove your Marxist cred.

Also in Chicago, the MOB is very tied in to local politicians. Any that could speak about things are very afraid of meeting some interesting characters. This election is about the local DA. Patrick Fitzgerald has fingered how many of Mayor Daley's cronies in scandals? He goes away with a Dem president. Illinois is NOT like any other place in the union. We operate more like Putin's Russia than a democracy.

So are we afraid to speak-you bet. We also know that the MSM will come calling and smear us. Look at what they did to Joe the Plumber. Joe didn't attack Obama personally-just forced Obama to point out the realities of his tax plan ("bottoms up, spread the wealth around")

The other thing that we see is that people are so blinded-that they don't care. They are voting skin color-period. "It will be so great to have a black face in the White House." "It's about time we had a black man in the White House." Shelby Steele was correct.

If the Republicans had any credibility, they could win. But they were "no-tax and spend". Bush in sum was a disaster. Even though McCain is not Bush, he gets tarred with a little of his stench. We need real conservatives, not convenient conservatives, or compassionate conservatives. Anything other than real conservatism is bullshit.

While I am ranting, Republicans ought to give up on tying religion to the government as well. Quietly fight the culture war-loudly fight the economic war. There will be more ill to society from having Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Charlie Shumer in charge of the nations pocketbook than by fighting about abortion.

The only good news is that no matter what socialist's skin color is if they were elected, they would fail miserably in the next term. If this were Hillary, and she is not much different than Obama, she would pass similar policies-and we would be worse off for it. In 4 years, they will still be blaming Bush. Hopefully the American public will be wiser.

re: #175 ploome hineni

This is in Greektown, near Oprah's studio, just across the expressway from the University of Illinois-Chicago, where Ayers is a tenured professor.

It is not a big building. There is literally no chance that they didn't bump shoes with one another.

re: #109 gringotipico

It is not a huge building. It is small, and in an intimate neighborhood just across the expressway from UIC. Ayers is a professor of sociology at UIC.

re: #42 arethusa

Obama is from the Cass Sunstein part of law. Sunstein an influential prof at Chicago, now at Harvard. They would look to the Breyer wing of the court, not the Scalia wing. No surprises there.

Debating the merits of both with facts is a good exercise.

As to the U of C prof-no idea who that might be. Could be anyone. At U of C, they smash ideas together, so sometimes an English Lit prof will critique an Econ prof-just to give it a different perspective.

Analytical analysis is bloodsport there. Visiting profs don't like to present there. You are liable to be called an idiot by someone who has a Nobel Prize in something. It's not collegial like Harvard where they sit quietly and respect your idea. There idea of fun is to smash it and make it better.

Ask anyone who has sat through defending their dissertation in the Econ Dept. It's brutal.

re: #7 MandyManners

Obama bikes [Link: www.blog.newsweek.com...]

He is green remember?

Whether Obama wins or not the country is in very deep trouble.

People snickered when the Marxists and their fellow travelers found homes in Academia and the Media. Where else would this army of radicals from the 60s find employment.

So we complained about how unfair they were, how intellectually dishonest, how completely wrong given how history had discredited their ideas. But we largely were unaware of the threat.

While we were debating them they were teaching kids to hate their country. In the classroom, on the TV, on the radio, in the movie theaters.

Can't read, can't do math, can't find Iraq on a map, can't name 5 former presidents.. But they know the white man killed the Indians with smallpox laden blankets, that US enslaves the world, that Nixon started the Vietnam war.

Ayers and his ilk never gave up the fight. They moved onto a new battlefield we ignored them. They taught the next generation while we went to work and produced the wealth which allowed them to fill the head's of the next generation with vile garbage.

When Bill Ayers told Hugo Chavez the next revolution would take place in education he was not talking about a theory, he was talking about a battle plan he had already began to implement.

Welcome to the new American socialist utopia, comrades. The left including all their branches, politicians, educational establishment, bureaucrats, government unions and the media have learned the lessons of Hugo Chavez well. And soon, US citizens will learn the lessons the Venezuelan citizens.

One day the proletariat will rise up-and slit the throat of the political people in power.

Here is the google maps location of the 100 block of Sangamon street.

[Link: wiurl.com...]

Although the location of 115 is not clearly marked, the buildings in the neighborhood are VERY SMALL. Now I could see working in a building with a footprint size of the world trade center or many other huge buildings in NYC and not knowing my hall mates but in this small place?---please give me a break.

According to the street view on google maps some of the buildings are available for lease. Why don't you, an enterprising chicagoan for truth get down there and take a tour to rent an office and get some pictures.

Call early Monday as you may have to fight off hordes of newspaper and media hacks desperate to get the story as 115 Sangamon St becomes the hottest location in Chicago--NOT.

Get inside or at least outside, take some pics and post them for all the see the size of the building 115 Sangamon St 3rd floor. That is, if it is still legal in Chicago or the US the question THE ONE.

Come on Joe, yes you ..... you may or may not be a plumber, you may have back taxes you owe. go for it, America needs you or WE ALL WILL BE JOE SOON.

by the way an internet appeal paid joe's back taxes and a similar appeal may help you too.

--paid for by Citizens for Joe

crossposted at [Link: www.verumserum.com...]

No story here. Their gastronomic preferences alone would have kept them "strangers".

re: #201 pittrader1988

One day the proletariat will rise up-and slit the throat of the political people in power.

"...Slit the throat..."? Mon Dieu! As a proud member of the "proly", I confess I am very uncomfortable to be "up close and personal". But I'm OK at 100 yards. That said, I hope we're talking metaphorically.

metaphorically for now. no telling what will happen if we overtax and take away freedom. The Mayan calendar famously predicts a change in the world in 2012!

Maybe Friedman like thought will permeate the electorate.

Here is a UIC map which shows the "Sangamon Street Building" (SGM) location. It's those two buildings on the east side of the street, on the south side of the block.

Correction.. Streetview shows that only the building next to Sangamon has the third floor in which the offices were located. The east side of the complex has less than three stories. It's posted as a vacant building. Has someone in Chicago taken photos?

So what? You heard Obama put this issue to bed. Bambam was 8 when this scum bag killed those innocent men and women and Ayers is not part of his campaign. Geesh.

/sarc