Take THAT!

Ayers wrote that review ...

Hopechange?

Also note this passage from my post:

Just a few weeks before this review was published in the Chicago Tribune, Obama and Ayers appeared together on a panel about juvenile justice organized by Michelle Obama on November 6, 1997:

Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings” — and “adults.”

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.

I find it very hard — no, make that impossible — to believe that Barack Obama had “no idea” who William Ayers really was, or that he had a past as a notorious domestic terrorist (as Obama’s campaign has claimed) while serving on panels with Ayers and simultaneously praising Ayers’ book in a major newspaper.

"Searing"

ROFLMAO

re: #1 zombie

I tried googling around but could find anything interesting about the other reviewers featured. Did you check them out?

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

"Just some guy in my neighborhood."

Zombie, I live in Illinois, but how do you dig dirt? I'm not asking for advanced lessons, just for a few pointers to start out.

BHO sure likes the word "hope".

re: #1 zombie

Zombie, Have you released this on to Fox or Glenn Beck or a trusted news person?

Obama didn't know who Ayers was before he knew who Ayers was.

And then, he forgot it again, so when he denied he knew it, he was actually forgetting that he had forgotten it, after he knew it, after he didn't. OK now?

re: #6 Killgore Trout

I tried googling around but could find anything interesting about the other reviewers featured. Did you check them out?

Which other reviewers? You mean the ones in the "Mark My Word" column? I think they're just randomly assembled -- they have nothing to do with Obama.

re: #11 notutopia

Zombie, Have you released this on to Fox or Glenn Beck or a trusted news person?

No -- that's up to YOU!

So, if he has denied it so often, this should be a problem; right?

In December 1997,

He was only 8 years old!

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

"The courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair." How come Obama and Ayers do the opposite for me? Rescue despair from my hope?

re: #13 zombie

Ah, I didn't notice they were reviewing different books. My bad.

re: #11 notutopia

Zombie, Have you released this on to Fox or Glenn Beck or a trusted news person?

Or Drudge.

I thought he was rehabilitated.

/who the hell uses the word rehabilitated?

Who am I to question the Proclaimed One's Judgement.

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

Doesn't matter in this case how vile the book is, what matters is that Obama pretends he never heard of it.

Though there was a great editorial on Ayers in WSJ a few days ago, and I'm sure anything with his name on it is plenty vile.

re: #23 itellu3times

Doesn't matter in this case how vile the book is, what matters is that Obama pretends he never heard of it.

Though there was a great editorial on Ayers in WSJ a few days ago, and I'm sure anything with his name on it is plenty vile.

Good point.

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Zombie, I live in Illinois, but how do you dig dirt? I'm not asking for advanced lessons, just for a few pointers to start out.

I have no special knowledge -- Just start pondering what is needed to upset Obama's apple cart.

What I really want to get my hands on is a photo on Obama and Ayers together. I am absolutely positive such photos exist, somewhere in Chicago. If I lived in Illinois, I would try to track them down, night and day.

zombie,

Just a few weeks before this review was published in the Chicago Tribune, Obama and Ayers appeared together on a panel about juvenile justice organized by Michelle Obama on November 6, 1997:

This is pretty hot. It makes Obama's denials outright lies.

re: #16 Occasional Reader

He was only 8 years old!

So his entire adult worldview, value system and judgment is based on what was going on when he was 8 years old?

I can't say what I'd do if I ever met Ayers personally. It wouldn't be illegal, but it wouldn't be pretty either.

Words? Just words ... those words Senator Government uses to describe AyerstheBomber are ...so telling ...

re: #5 esch

"Searing"

ROFLMAO

Beat me to it. GMTA.

Even back then he still preached Hope and Change(TM).
BARF!/

re: #1 zombie
This really belongs on this thread.

Remember this:

I am no one special. I have no special position, or wealth, or education. I'm just a person doing my best to make a difference in this campaign. Everyone here could do exactly what I'm doing. And if we all did, we'd have the Obamatons on the run.

I just got the idea to track down this review -- anyone could have done it, really.

I only wish I lived in Illinois -- I'd be digging dirt on Obama all day long.

Do you live in Illinois? Or anywhere?

Don't praise me -- emulate me!

Hope you don't mind Zombie.

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

Thesis: Release all juvenile offenders, regardless of the seriousness of their crimes (including murderers and rapists).

Birds of a feather?

Great detective work, Zombie! I've sent it to folks in Calif, Tenn and Texas. Hubby just had me print it out so we can take it down to our little pub & show it around tonight. LOL

re: #20 arethusa

Or Drudge.

Do it!

Much like people confuse "freedom of religion" with "freedom from religion," the Obama camp claims "guilt by association" when the truth is his "guilt of association."

Ayers was a stepping stone, but BHO wasn't counting on getting Marxist Marxshit on his shoe.

I-I-I d-d-did n-n-ot have journalistic relations with th-th-that man, Ayers.

re: #17 TheMatrix31

from the Amazon review...

Headlines regularly depict juvenile criminals as extreme and violent "superpredators"?a distorted and incomplete picture that shapes the way Americans think and feel about

poor (and mostly minority) city kids.

For five years, Ayers, a former member of the radical 1960s Weathermen organization, acted as a teacher and an observer in Chicago's Juvenile Court prison, the nation's first?and largest?institution of juvenile justice. Founded by the legendary Jane Addams to act as a "kind and just parent" for children in need, the court today epitomizes the confused and confusing way American justice deals with children. In Ayers's book, an account of one year in his classroom there, students describe their lives, analyze their situations, and think about their futures. Like Jonathan Kozol in Amazing Grace (LJ 10/1/95), Ayers shows that we must overcome our preconceived notions of these children and learn to deal with the realities of their lives. Ayers is a born educator and communicator, with a voice of hope.

It seems juvenile crime is justified if you're non-white and/or poor.

Obama is not running to change government he’s running for overthrow government. Ayers wins.

re: #26 Geepers

zombie,

This is pretty hot. It makes Obama's denials outright lies.

Yes, I agree. But I do not have the time to publicize this at the moment. You (and everyone on this thread) are the ones who need to make it a story!

He's being Ayerboated!
Hahaha.

re: #34 Pvt Bin Jammin

Great detective work, Zombie! I've sent it to folks in Calif, Tenn and Texas. Hubby just had me print it out so we can take it down to our little pub & show it around tonight. LOL

EXCELLENT!

Good start.

re: #14 zombie

No -- that's up to YOU!

Posted on Flickr. Thanks, Zombie!

the Proclaimed One

Hint, Hint, Nancy Pelocy, DNC Convention, By Proclamation...
Any GOP types out there?

It made me want to puke hearing it [seriously] , but I guess the rest of the US is OK with it, right. Right GOP?

Obama, he's such a jokester!

Everyone knows that Billy was just a casual neighbor, and they hardly ever even chatted on the street on those rare occasions where they actually met up.

Real people would understand that truth, but conservatives continue to insist that there's a fire that is making the smoke.

Really, people. It's all "smoke and mirrors". Get a life.

/

There's more to Zombie's article:

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“We know that issues like juvenile justice impact each of us who live in the city of Chicago. This panel gives community members and students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

Finally, none of the folks I work with believe it when I try to tell them BHO is a liar.

thx

re: #41 Attaboid

He's being Ayerboated!
Hahaha.

Ayerboarded!

Pounding taxes will yield more results than pounding a washed up terrorist. Obama WILL raise your taxes.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

re: #27 esch

So his entire adult worldview, value system and judgment is based on what was going on when he was 8 years old?

Barry is kind of like Bart Simpson. He's perpetually 8 years old. So he's not responsible for anything bad that's ever happened by his agency, or near him. Got it?

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

In addition, Obama told the Chicago Tribune in 1997 that a book Ayers wrote about the juvenile court system was "a searing and timely account." This is sometimes billed by Obama's critics as a "book review." Actually, a reporter simply asked three Chicagoans for a sentence about whatever they were reading at the time.

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

re: #12 itellu3times

Obama didn't know who Ayers was before he knew who Ayers was.

And then, he forgot it again, so when he denied he knew it, he was actually forgetting that he had forgotten it, after he knew it, after he didn't. OK now?

Must drink more...

re: #7 zombie

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

Do that Zombie- But also email it to everyone!

John McCain didn't vet you properly, Zombie.

re: #48 spirochete

Ayerboarded!

Ayer-boated!

re: #50 Occasional Reader

Barry is kind of like Bart Simpson. He's perpetually 8 years old. So he's not responsible for anything bad that's ever happened by his agency, or near him. Got it?

Better than you know. Most of my family are libs. Bleah...

Obama's record on crime:

*In 1998, Obama was one of only three senators to vote against a proposal making it a criminal offense for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang.
*In 2001, Obama voted against a measure that would have expanded the penalties for some gang activity to include the death penalty. The bill was vetoed by then-Gov. George Ryan (R ) not long after he had issued a moratorium on the death penalty in the state.
Obama, at the time, said the bill would unfairly target minorities, stating, “There’s a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color … I think it’s problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing.”
*Obama opposes the death penalty except for terrorists, serial killers and child-murderers, but his campaign added that he does not support the death penalty as it is currently administered in this country.
*On a 1999 vote making adult prosecution mandatory for aggravated discharge of a firearm in or near a school, the senator voted “present.”
He explained the vote, saying, “There is really no proof or indication that automatic transfers and increased penalties and adult penalties for juvenile offenses have, in fact, proven to be more effective in reducing juvenile crime or cutting back on recidivism.”
*And in 2001, Obama voted “present” on a bill that would increase penalties for trafficking in Ecstasy and other designer drugs.
The senator questioned the length of some drug penalties when compared to other crimes, noting that selling 15 tablets of Ecstasy was a Class X felony, as was raping a woman at knifepoint.

That is it.

Could I, Would I, Should I?

"Barry By Proclamation!"

I really should vote for him, after all the DNC did not even need to count votes.

re: #35 zombie

Do it!

Done. But he never listens to me. :-(

re: #49 experiencedtraveller

Pounding taxes will yield more results than pounding a washed up terrorist. Obama WILL raise your taxes.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

I agree we need to pick our fights but we do have more than just one hammer.

Blues tie it up with 'Hawks w/ 13 seconds left! Going to OT!

In 1988, Michelle Obama and Bernadine Dohrn worked in the same office of the law firm Sidley Austin.
If you worked with in the same office as "American's Most Dangerous Woman", as the FBI called her, I think you hear about it around the water cooler. And it's not like Bernadine was shy about her terrorist activities.

Good work Zombie. Keep up the pressure.

Ya know, the MSM should have done this 1 year ago. Too busy investigating Joe the Plumber and Facebook Diving about Cindy McCain.

Zombie,
I emailed this with a link to your site to everyone on my email list. I suggest everyone do that. The only way this will get out to the voters is if we take action. The msm will not touch this.

If I'm not mistaken, 'Ayer' in Spanish means 'yesterday'.

re: #4 zombie

I find it very hard — no, make that impossible — to believe that Barack Obama had “no idea” who William Ayers really was, or that he had a past as a notorious domestic terrorist (as Obama’s campaign has claimed) while serving on panels with Ayers and simultaneously praising Ayers’ book in a major newspaper.

Is it possible that within the progressive circles of Chicago intelligentsia, Ayers' background as a domestic terrorist isn't viewed as being particularly remarkable or despicable?

Damn zombie! You've proven that the media socialist elite are covering up the Ayers-Obama connection. How could a "professional journalist" miss this? Answer: because he wanted to.

Great job!

re: #25 zombie

I have no special knowledge -- Just start pondering what is needed to upset Obama's apple cart.

What I really want to get my hands on is a photo on Obama and Ayers together. I am absolutely positive such photos exist, somewhere in Chicago. If I lived in Illinois, I would try to track them down, night and day.

Being as this is Illinois, digging dirt is easy, but you need to know who to ask, and how to ask. I'd start at the Chicago Public Library (of all places!) to start with Obama/Ayres photos. Just claim you're researching for a favorable biography of Obama. Other places I'd look for info would be the UIC library, and the University of Chicago library (it's in Hyde Park).

re: #7 zombie

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

Sent and email to the Powerline folks, then put up a thread in their forum.

re: #41 Attaboid

He's being Ayerboated!
Hahaha.

Zombified, even.

re: #49 experiencedtraveller

Pounding taxes will yield more results than pounding a washed up terrorist. Obama WILL raise your taxes.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

I concur, but we do have between all of us the resources to hit both angles. Ayers keeps the base motivated, while the tax issue pries away swing voters. The best battle plans employ multiple axises of attack.

re: #70 Dar ul Harb

Zombified, even.

Ayerhead?

re: #65 Gang of One

If I'm not mistaken, 'Ayer' in Spanish means 'yesterday'.

And all our Ayers have lighted fools
the way to dusty death

"... and the courageous folks who rescue hope from despair.."

Oh, I don't know about that -- Obama has managed to put despair right into the center of hope for me.

Zombie, great work! What do you think the possibility/probability is of Ayers having ghost written "Dreams of My Father" for that guy in his neighborhood, Obama?

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

Isn't factcheck owned by Anenberg?

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

I realize this is not a "new" story -- what I wanted to do, my only goal, was to get a "visual" of Obama and Ayers together. This is as close as I could get.

re: #65 Gang of One

1. yesterday ayer por la mañana -> yesterday morning
ayer (por la) noche -> last night
2. in the past (en el pasado)

Spanish to English.

My very smart and sweet, but misguided, nephew, who is working with poor kids in inner city Flint told me that he watched one of the debates with Ayers and Dohrn. He said Ayers' view was that "he sure doesn't like Obama now." Obviously because Obama has gone too "centrist" for Bill Ayers. Yikes.

re: #62 HelloDare

re: #72 spirochete

Ayerhead?

Dohrned?

re: #64 newsjunkie_ky

Zombie,
I emailed this with a link to your site to everyone on my email list. I suggest everyone do that. The only way this will get out to the voters is if we take action. The msm will not touch this.

Thank you!

re: #60 Metal Man

I agree we need to pick our fights but we do have more than just one hammer.

Its the fourth quarter and the home team is down by a field goal.

We have already run our slick plays.

Time to pound the ball up the middle where we have strength from several variables.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

Obama: "Oh, that William Ayers! I thought you meant Bill Ayers the plumber who snaked out my pipes."

re: #77 sngnsgt

Spanish to English.

A shorter answer: Yes, "ayer" means "yesterday" in Spanish.

Yesterday with Ayers. Or, Ayer con Ayers. Whichever way, Obama and the Terrorist are linked.

This is a post to email to all of our friends and family.

(8 years old my ass.)

"Who you gonna believe, some anonymous undead creature on the right-wing blogs, or your own lying eyes?"
--Obama (not yet)

re: #7 zombie

Done. Have no fear, all 3 of my followers will be reading this shortly!

/one day I will have fans and people

re: #82 HelloDare

Obama: "Oh, that William Ayers! I thought you meant Bill Ayers the plumber who snaked out my pipes."

*snort*

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

re: #75 MandyManners

Isn't factcheck owned by Anenberg?

I believe the proper term is "funded" by the Annenberg Project.

re: #81 experiencedtraveller

Its the fourth quarter and the home team is down by a field goal.

We have already run our slick plays.

Time to pound the ball up the middle where we have strength from several variables.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

They have a strong defense to our Taxes run (I'll lower taxes on 95%) yeah it's a fake but seems effective.

Just some guy in my neighborhood..

Doesn't Ayers have some really crackpot ideas about juvenille rehab - stuff about taking hardened criminals out of jail and pretty much just turning them loose under "community organizer" supervision? I don't recall details, just that it was his typical nihilist Romantic nonsense, disguising his desire to destroy our society as a "radical" idea to help it.

The guy is fucking nuts, and so is his wife, and I think we would all be well-served to have a central source for information about who he REALLY is. None of this "former radical" or "educator" or whatever, just a collection of his own words that illustrate the fact that he's a trust fund terrorist who hates this country only slightly more than he hates himself, and that he's secure in Chicago not because he's rehabilitated, but because Chicago is a corrupt leftist shithole that idolises people like him.

"... How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Maybe leftover ammo from the Weathermen?

re: #75 MandyManners

Isn't factcheck owned by Anenberg?

Well, Annenberg (now dead) founded the center that funds it, so, yeah, kinda, and it's definitely not impartial. I assume it's the same Annenberg as the Challenge name?

Gee, I don't get it: I write jacket promos all the time for book-writing terrorists who are guys that happen to live in my neighborhood. What's your point.

/SARC

re: #80 zombie
I am humbled and honored to kinda know you.

re: #73 Occasional Reader

And all our Ayers have lighted fools
the way to dusty death

Out, out, brief candle.

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

Oh, we gotta take your guns away for the children.

*ahem* I mean the Obama Youth.

re: #81 experiencedtraveller

And Joe the Plumber just came off the bench.

re: #68 Honorary Yooper

Being as this is Illinois, digging dirt is easy, but you need to know who to ask, and how to ask. I'd start at the Chicago Public Library (of all places!) to start with Obama/Ayres photos. Just claim you're researching for a favorable biography of Obama. Other places I'd look for info would be the UIC library, and the University of Chicago library (it's in Hyde Park).

Newberry Library in Chicago, a private but open to the public research library...not to mention a very leftist library...is also a good source to dig in.

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

Bill Ruger might just as well have pulled that trigger himself.

/

Obama: "Oh Bernadine Dohrn! I thought you meant Marilyn Horne the opera diva.

I always write blurbs for people I hardly know and don't respect.
Barry is gonna have to fess up to this one.

re: #66 RoughRider

re: #4 zombie

I find it very hard — no, make that impossible — to believe that Barack Obama had “no idea” who William Ayers really was, or that he had a past as a notorious domestic terrorist (as Obama’s campaign has claimed) while serving on panels with Ayers and simultaneously praising Ayers’ book in a major newspaper.

Is it possible that within the progressive circles of Chicago intelligentsia, Ayers' background as a domestic terrorist isn't viewed as being particularly remarkable or despicable?

This is completely out of the question.

In Chicago, domestic terrorism is a badge of honor. Ayers didn't even need to go to Harvard. He was already a mega-celebrity in left wing circles.

There's no way on Earth that Obama could have traveled in those circles without knowing Ayers' claim to fame as a domestic "insurgent" (as Ayers himself like to call violent rebellion from within America.)

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

Unasked third question: "Is he using it for the right purposes? Because I totally know some people who could give his anger the correct focus - on the system, man! Where it belongs! He should be killing pigs, not his own people..."

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

Basicly, he wants to give a free pass to juvenile criminals because they are kids.
FWIW, I think juvenile crime should be limited to age specific actions such as Minor in possession. Once they are of age that is no longer an issue. adult crimes should be tried as adult crimes. murder is murder whether the perp is sixteen or sixty. Gangs use younger kids to do the shooting because they will get by with a hand slap.

re: #93 Pawn of the Oppressor

Ayers just wants all violent felons to have the freedom he has regardless of their crimes.

How many times will this fool get a pass with the mainstream media? When will anything catch?

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

my BS detector goes on full alert whenever I read something that uses phrases such as:
"rescue hope from despair"
or
"open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community"

McCain needs to use this and the earlier story Charles had up about 'sharing an office' in an ad. Great visuals.

re: #99 Dar ul Harb

Oh, we gotta take your guns away for the children.

*ahem* I mean the Obama Youth.

Yes, It's For The Children^TM. You're For The Children^TM aren't you comrade Dar ul Harb?

_{That's coming to a re-education center near you folks.}

re: #110 ACJohn

Pick me...

Might as well use Fightthesmears.com as a reference point.

“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park.

Guess they really researched this "smear" eh?

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

I can't believe that horrid josh brolin is hosting. What a putz.

Barry may not have been eight years old at the time, but he looks to be about seventeen in the photo. Note the pompous pose with the "impressive-looking" law reporters on the shelf in the background. Just plain silly.

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

Nope, I'm packing for a trip (with LGF breaks).

re: #42 zombie

Will keep going with it tomorrow. I know my friend in Tenn. will send it around too.

re: #91 Metal Man

They have a strong defense to our Taxes run (I'll lower taxes on 95%) yeah it's a fake but seems effective.

The tax issue has proven late game momentum. (Sorry, good linky lost...)

re: #7 zombie

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

You dig deep while others sleep - Kudos Zom - will do.

I think this is important:
Bounty to be paid by American News Project for videos showing "Republican Rage"

ANP is working on a series between now and Nov. 4 analyzing the phenomenon of rage among McCain-Palin supporters which has surfaced in the past few weeks. Our first piece in the series will debut next week as we look at the rising tension at rallies we’ve attended, the effect of negative ads on the GOP base and John McCain’s and the RNC’s responsibility in fanning the flames.

For the other stories in this series, we need your help. Between now and Nov. 4, we want to document this rising rage nationwide at GOP rallies or anywhere else. If you have any evidence of rage, bigotry or deliberate misinformation among McCain supporters, whether at an official rally or elsewhere (local GOP groups, etc.), we need your help to video these events.

ANP producers have witnessed intimidation of Obama supporters, hate speech, racial epithets at these rallies. (TSM: Typically they will lie their way into a story and facts-be-damned) Our own reporters have been restricted by Republican operatives from speaking to supporters of John McCain or Sarah Palin.

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Bill Ruger might just as well have pulled that trigger himself.

/

Bankrupt the evil gun manufacturers, It's For The Children^TM!

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

I'll be watching.

Gotta log off. Cheerio!

Has this Sorosian puppet ever uttered a sentence that DIDN'T include the word hope?

-WFH

What remains so disturbing is that, from all evidence that continues to be put before the public, it is very clear that "Dear Leader" remains a magnet for every anti-American, far left or Marxist voice of influence that crosses his path. Anyone denying this is either oblivious or doesn't care. The sheer number of Americans that fall into either category is rather disheartening. To believe that he is anything more than the Manchurian candidate from the Left perverse fantasies, and that he is anywhere near the center is dishonest. He is deliberately being forced done the throats of the American voting populace in a cynical ploy of racism.

re: #125 zombie

Gotta log off. Cheerio!

Frosted Flakes -- They're Great!

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

Not I. My TV skips the National Barack Channel.

Do I laugh or cry? [Link: kotaku.com...]

re: #129 Sol Roth

My guess best ratings for SNL in many years.

McCain is battle-tested, ready

Editor of the Reformer:

My name is Tom Burns, and I am classified as a 100 percent service connected disabled veteran. I was hit in the head in Vietnam back in 1968 and it paralyzed my left side.

Now when I tell people this I always add "the paralysis is the bad news -- the good news is my name is not on the Vietnam Memorial known as 'The Wall,' located in Washington, D.C., that contains some 58,000-plus names of American service men and women who gave their lives in Vietnam."

I am writing this letter in support of John McCain, not just because he is a fellow disabled Vietnam veteran who knows first hand, the terrible guilt feelings that remain with returning battlefield soldiers throughout their lives because a political decision was made (not a military one) to end the war before it was won.

John McCain won't let history repeat itself in Iraq. He will bring our service men and women home from Iraq as soon as our commanders on the ground (not some politician in Washington) determine they have successfully completed their mission and will return home with pride and dignity.

Now we all know John McCain has dedicated his life to serving this country and it has cost him a great deal. Just think for a minute -- picture yourself all alone in a small dark cell as a prisoner of war in excruciating pain and horrible conditions for 512 years and yet refusing to be set free when offered because another prisoner had been there longer he must be released first because that is military protocol.

With acts like that -- John McCain has certainly proved himself having been tested under fire to have extremely high moral and ethical standards coupled with his devotion to his comrades and his country has demonstrated the command characteristics of a great leader and I believe superbly qualified to be commander in chief.

D. Thomas Burns

Bellows Falls, Oct. 11

a great political cartoon of BHO...

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

But..but..0bama was only eight years old when he wrote that review..honest..
/sarc

Man, 512 years, that's a long, long time.

re: #131 ACJohn

My guess best ratings for SNL in many years.

Will have to be because I am sure there will be other people like me...who never watch SNL... will be watching tonight...just to see Sarah.

Bernadine is not getting enough play ... I know it is harder to get evidence of them together ... so I hope the babysitting things gets found out ...Bernadine was more in charge of Weatherman than BillyBomber ...

Earlier I posted a report from CBS fact-checking the people claiming "I am Joe the Plumber" as to whether they really were plumbers or named Joe.

The Corner has a very funny, very snarky follow-up observation:

Attention, crack CBS News Fact Check Unit! The man in this picture claiming to be a Berliner is, in fact, from Massachusetts. Furthermore, as a citizen of the United States, he is not eligible to vote in Berlin municipal elections.

re: #133 thedude

a great political cartoon of BHO...

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

LMAO

What's next, they were homosexual lovers? I mean ... isn't that the next level of closeness?

re: #120 experiencedtraveller

The tax issue has proven late game momentum. (Sorry, good linky lost...)

I don't disagree other than we need to mix up the plays to spread their defense.

I started out thinking of just taxes and their impact on the voters. 1/2 of the population pays none or gets paid. Then aretheUSA mentioned Joe the Plumber and that does give that attack more effectiveness. But I still think since politics is not football running multiple attacks is a better strategy.

Zombie, thanks for this timely and searing account of the insidious Marxist that the Democrats have nominated this time around, and his connections to known domestic terrorists.

Barry Obama may be a future footnote* in history,

*Barrack Hussein Obama was the DNC candidate by "Proclamation" -
- then became under what was presumed by some extremists as voter fraud by ACORN (plaintiffs found to be without standing) President, then nominated himself as Chief of the Supreme Court of the US Supreme Court, expanded the Court to 21 members, all new members approved unanimously by the DNC supported Legislature, ran and was elected by 95% to 100% popular vote for his third and forth terms due to incredible support just as his early nemesis, which brought him to the forefront of American politics did, Saddam Hussein. Nonetheless, Throughout Obama's administration, he suffered many trials of vocal and violent treason, but was very successful at prosecution of sedition.

re: #140 Archimedes

What's next, they were homosexual lovers? I mean ... isn't that the next level of closeness?

You didn't know ...

re: #133 thedude

a great political cartoon of BHO...

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Brilliant!

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

I can answer that: Obama: ‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away'.

"Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,"

...as though the Constitution presents no roadblock.

If you need further evidence:

John Lott spoke, with an interesting point. He'd held a fellowship at Univ. of Chicago School of Law, when Obama was a prof. or sorta-prof. there, and they talked a few times. The first time Obama said "oh, you're the gun guy." When he said that he was, Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns." Lott said maybe they should talk about it. Obama just smirked and left without a word.

re: #133 thedude

Now THAT's the essence of political cartooning. Awesome.

Think I'm going to get a copy of that framed.

re: #66 RoughRider

Is it possible that within the progressive circles of Chicago intelligentsia, Ayers' background as a domestic terrorist isn't viewed as being particularly remarkable or despicable?

umm yes its possible, here is Mayor Daley who made Ayers Chicago Citizen of the Year.
"He worked with me in shaping our now nationally renowned school reform program. He is a nationally recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community."

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

So Factcheck.org says we should simply dismiss this connection because he didn't review the book, he just gave the book a review...a few weeks after sitting on a panel with the author of the book...a panel arranged by his wife...

re: #122 Victoire

I have video on my site of Obama supporters shouting at and heckling McCain supporters as they left a rally at Capital University. The McCain supporters did nothing to provoke it and did not intimidate the Obamatrons.

re: #144 jacksontn

You didn't know ...

Oh, so that's what he means by "meeting without preconditions"...

A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court

I'm waiting for the sequel:

Just An Unrepentent Terrorist Parent: The Views of An Obama Advocate

This post from Hillbuzz should encourage any Lizard feeling despair. On this date in 2004, Kerry was said to be leading in 13 swing states.

Remind me: what happened that year?

Another BHO the Plumber cartoon.

re: #122 Victoire

If there really was "rage" from McCain supporters, it would be plastered all over the news. The fake rage makes it there, after all.

re: #146 SlartyBartfast

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

/I wonder if his Secret Service detachment accedes to his beliefs and carries spitballs

re: #156 Palandine

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

/I wonder if his Secret Service detachment accedes to his beliefs and carries spitballs

what he means by that is that the state should own all the guns.

re: #156 Palandine

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

In the words of King Leonidas:

"Come and get them."

“Telling us what to think has evolved into telling us what to say. So telling us what to do can’t be very far away.” - Charlton Heston

re: #156 Palandine

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

/I wonder if his Secret Service detachment accedes to his beliefs and carries spitballs

You just hit me with a serious case of Deja Vu. That very point was made about someone else. i.e. very anti 2nd amendment, anti gun, all the while surrounded by armed guards... Damned if I'll remember who now.

re: #160 USCMSNE

You just hit me with a serious case of Deja Vu. That very point was made about someone else. i.e. very anti 2nd amendment, anti gun, all the while surrounded by armed guards... Damned if I'll remember who now.

Wasn't it Rosie O'Donnell?

re: #158 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In the words of King Leonidas:

"Come and get them."

All mine have been stolen. It's very sad.

re: #146 SlartyBartfast

Slarty, he will have the votes in Congress:

A Liberal Supermajority
Get ready for 'change' we haven't seen since 1965, or 1933.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

If the current polls hold, Barack Obama will win the White House on November 4 and Democrats will consolidate their Congressional majorities, probably with a filibuster-proof Senate or very close to it. Without the ability to filibuster, the Senate would become like the House, able to pass whatever the majority wants.

Though we doubt most Americans realize it, this would be one of the most profound political and ideological shifts in U.S. history. Liberals would dominate the entire government in a way they haven't since 1965, or 1933. In other words, the election would mark the restoration of the activist government that fell out of public favor in the 1970s. If the U.S. really is entering a period of unchecked left-wing ascendancy, Americans at least ought to understand what they will be getting, especially with the media cheering it all on.

He'll outlaw them alright.

51 arethusa-- kind of like talking by happenstance to a plumber about his plan for expansion and telling him he is going to be taxed til his wealth is spread around...

re: #162 Palandine

All mine have been stolen. It's very sad.

You, too?

Lot of that going around...

Letterman is really hung up on Palin asserting, "palling around with terrorist, Willaim Ayers, someone needs to school Letterman so he doesn't keep making a fool out of himself over this,

re: #153 arethusa

This post from Hillbuzz should encourage any Lizard feeling despair. On this date in 2004, Kerry was said to be leading in 13 swing states.

Remind me: what happened that year?

Boston won the World Series.

another great political cartoon of BHO...
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Linking this as fast as I can. Zombie, Charles, you are truly worthy.

Personally, I'm clinging to my guns and religion. To paraphrase BHO: "I think when you spread the wealth guns around, it's good for everybody."

re: #161 gop_patriot

Wasn't it Rosie O'Donnell?

That might have been her... Another winner.

156 paladine- Check out story in world Net Daily on gus. guns shop owner said that the USGovt took his software for gun registration and is using it sub rosa.
/I don't know enough about the issues but sounds darn serious.

re: #168 thedude

another great political cartoon of BHO...
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

I love Michael Ramirez.

re: #12 itellu3times

Say that ain't a Cheneyism.

SNL just started.

re: #83 Occasional Reader

A shorter answer: Yes, "ayer" means "yesterday" in Spanish.

Sí.

51 .."On guns"...not gus.

re: #177 ploome hineni

That's the result of Soros' ass.

177 ploome hineni- both have had some great plastic srugery ,imo. Michelle the terror looks lik she might have had a repaired hare-lip.There is something going on there.
Maybe skin lightening for Oby ,also

re: #135 spirochete

that's how long I was married! It is a long time!

re: #14 zombie

Zombie, Done! To the producer of Beck, Beck himself and to his Webmaster.
All kudos to your blog site. Requested anonymity until they contact you for release. I hope the webmaster is still awake!

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

Sarah did great in the opening.

Yeah ... was that it?

re: #183 ciaospirit

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

Yep. TV puff. I wonder if she'll be back on at all this evening.

re: #183 ciaospirit

Yes great opening.

re: #177 ploome hineni

when did Obama have his nose narrowed and refined? looks like a good job

Was wondering the same.

Cuz ... I am turning it off if she is done ...

re: #183 ciaospirit

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

saw it, didn't think much of it, in terms of creativity or as being very funny.

re: #183 ciaospirit

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

Yep...AWESOME!

Live from New York, it's Saturday Night!

/Sarah Palin

And with Alec Baldwin no less.

Well I just turned off josh brolinputz.
Let us know if Sarah comes back.

I'm sure Sarah will be in some skits. Stay tuned.
;)

re: #4 zombie

I wonder what it would take for it to dawn on the American people that Obama lied to them about all this, and that it is every bit the lie that "I did not have sex with that woman" was.

What is it going to take to wake them the hell up to this person's character?

Well good evening all y'all! This fact of Obama giving a blurb on one of Ayers book covers was discussed in a Dead thread - I think last Monday, by our good friend Kenneth - showing that even Canadian lizards are on top of this Obama bullshit that he didn't know Ayers well, that he was only 8 when Ayers tried to murder people and - silence - about serving on a board of directors with Ayers for 10 years when Obama was an adult.
The more that comes out about the TRUTH of Obama, I hope the more people wonder about him.

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

Hi newjunkie, I'll take one for the team and let you know.

With our open and democratic system there has always been a risk that it would be openly and democratically swiped by foreign persuasions who will have no further need of it's openness and democracy.

re: #172 big L

156 paladine- Check out story in world Net Daily on gus. guns shop owner said that the USGovt took his software for gun registration and is using it sub rosa.
/I don't know enough about the issues but sounds darn serious.

For those of you who own guns (and again, since mine were stolen, it's a moot point), where legal: gun shows. Pay cash.

Country's largest anti-hunting organization endorses Obama

re: #188 ciaospirit

Was wondering the same.

This sites talks about the plastic surgery ...

[Link: www.makemeheal.com...]

who knows ...

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

Well I just turned off josh brolinputz.
Let us know if Sarah comes back.

Me too.

Josh Brolin sucks.

I tuned in 3 minutes late to SNL and missed Palin. What was it like?

re: #163 Sol Roth

A chilling prediction, and, unlike the silly talk of gulags and storm-troopers, an extremely realistic one.
And it doesn't even address the foreign dangers that we face.

"just some guy from the neighbourhood" Barack O'Liar

I can't believe that Sarah is on with Oliver Stone in the audience.

Stone plugging his movie "W".

re: #198 x-wing

Hi newjunkie, I'll take one for the team and let you know.

Thanks. I'll turn it back on but put it on mute until I hear from you. You brave soul.

re: #204 arethusa

I tuned in 3 minutes late to SNL and missed Palin. What was it like?

She'll be back... typical opening bit "surprise, look who's here"

OMG Oliver Stone was on SNL I need to was my eyes like a rape victim taking a shower.

re: #167 solomonpanting

Boston won the World Series.

...and Kerry lost. Hee. Maybe if the Phils don't win the Red Sox could...

re: #204 arethusa

I tuned in 3 minutes late to SNL and missed Palin. What was it like?

She was smooth.

Any one know if Ayers book has an "About the Author" on the front or back jacket or some kind of bio inside? If so, what kind of info is there? Be hard to say someone didn't know his background if it's right there on the book you've been quoted as reading. And if is his past is mentioned, they were still exchanging phone calls for 8 years after BO would have found out Ayers was a terrorist.

re: #200 Palandine

I personally have in these hard economic times had to sell off all the guns I didn't buy for cash at gun shows. Not that I ever bought any for cash.

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

Well I just turned off josh brolinputz.
Let us know if Sarah comes back.

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

re: #206 uptight

"just some guy from the neighbourhood" Barack O'Liar

"It depends on what your definition of neighborhood is" Obama

re: #162 Palandine

All mine have been stolen. It's very sad.

Wow. Home burglary?

Why is Sarah Palin putting in an appearance on SNL? Especially when it is being hosted by someone promoting yet another anti-US movie to be distributed abroad?

re: #211 ACJohn

OMG Oliver Stone was on SNL I need to was my eyes like a rape victim taking a shower.

very appropriate, the guy is the biggest sleaze in town.

re: #109 bryantms

How many times will this fool get a pass with the mainstream media? When will anything catch?

Two years into his second term.

re: #216 Inquisitive

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

Because it stinks?

re: #207 Irene NYC

I can't believe that Sarah is on with Oliver Stone in the audience.

Yeah, they really brought the lefties out tonight. Just shows how sceered they are of her.

/kick ass Sarah.

re: #211 ACJohn

OMG Oliver Stone was on SNL I need to was my eyes like a rape victim taking a shower.

Chit should say wash not was

Remember when politicians were elected to office before the lies flowed forth?

re: #216 Inquisitive

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

It has become extremely tiresome. I tried to watch it last year some but got really sick of it really fast. I must admit 30Rock is a funny show. I'm also dvr(ing) it in case she does come back and I miss it. But I'm in the office and TV is behind me. Just use it for FoxNews mainly.

re: #225 solomonpanting

Remember when politicians were elected to office before the lies flowed forth?

Back in Solomon's day, they just had to be born to the right family.

re: #223 x-wing

Yeah, they really brought the lefties out tonight. Just shows how sceered they are of her.

/kick ass Sarah.

That's a good point.

re: #216 Inquisitive

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

It is painful. Belushis' doing back flips in his grave

I just looked at the back cover of that book on Amazon ... Clarence Page wrote a review of the book ... I could not stand that guy before ... now ...(spit)

I'm going to need therapy after that sushi skit.

I still have no idea what it was about.

SNL proves the theory of inertia. An object in motion tend to stay in motion.

re: #227 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Back in Solomon's day, they just had to be born to the right family.

And today they just have to belong to the right party.

re: #220 alien_mind

very appropriate, the guy is the biggest sleaze in town.

And that's one BIG town.

re: #219 Random_Lizard

Why is Sarah Palin putting in an appearance on SNL? Especially when it is being hosted by someone promoting yet another anti-US movie to be distributed abroad?

That movie's gonna flop just like the rest,no biggie.

re: #231 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'm going to need therapy after that sushi skit.

I still have no idea what it was about.

if you figure it out could you fill me in?

Mad TV is usually funnier. It takes comedy to a whole 'notha level

Liar!
Running for president.

NObama!
NoLiars!

Zombie, I sent the link to the Hillary Clinton Forum. Also sent the LGF thread about O and Ayers sharing an office building for three years.

A book of teary sympathy for murderers, though young murderers.

Ah, I get it.

Thinking well of this, like, means you are so far advanced, a lightworker even, that you would make a great president, and redeem America in the eyes of the world.

HOOOCCCKK...

TOOO — EEE!

re: #109 bryantms

How many times will this fool get a pass with the mainstream media? When will anything catch?

Judging by the example of our LAST Democrat Messiah, Mr. Clinton? About fifteen years from now, or maybe more because he's an extra-special (read: non-white) case. Unless he turns out to be a conservative in disguise, or he embarasses anybody in the MSM... The former is highly unlikely, the latter is not even possible, given the extents to which they'll cover up for him.

re: #236 alien_mind

if you figure it out could you fill me in?

You make it sound like I'm really going to try...

re: #222 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Because it stinks?

Oh yes... because it stinks, it is pure stupidity and is not in the least bit funny..IMHO

re: #235 x-wing

That movie's gonna flop just like the rest,no biggie.

I agree. For one thing who the frack is joshbrolinputz? A hasbeen that never was.

re: #163 Sol Roth Hey Sol!
Long time, no chat - must be on different schedules or something.
Anyway, there are TWO ways to look at that supermajority crap.
First of all I don't think Obama is gonna win this election, even with the MSM, ACORN and SCOTUS pulling for him.
But if he should and if the Dems get a Supermajority, just think - they'll be responsible for EVERYTHING that happens in government. And the 2010 off year elections look like a walk in the park for Republicans!

Wow, I haven't watched SNL in a long, long time.

Lame. Really lame.

I may be biased but we are now 15 minutes into the show and nothing has been funny since Sarah. Even the commercials suck.

i hope that W movies tanks and doesn't make the top ten.
Stone is a disgrace.

re: #244 Inquisitive

Oh yes... because it stinks, it is pure stupidity and is not in the least bit funny..IMHO

Not even a shadow of what it once was.

re: #248 Metal Man

I may be biased but we are now 15 minutes into the show and nothing has been funny since Sarah. Even the commercials suck.

Now, now... the So Easy a Caveman can do it ones are always good.

re: #211 ACJohn

I understand the sentiment, but I dinged you down for your comparison. Not cool, IMO.

re: #235 x-wing

Actually, I expect "W" to rake in huge dough. There is a worldwide audience for it after all. I dislike Oliver Stone immensely, but give the man his due, he gives an audience what it wants.

re: #226 newsjunkie_ky
Hey {newsjunkie_ky} whatcha doing in the office so late, hmmm?!

re: #192 sngnsgt

/Sarah Palin

It took me ten minutes to find NBC - it's been a long time since I watched any network TV.

So - SNL. I liked the part with Gov. Palin. So far, the rest has been unbearable. The Burger King commercial was funnier than the show. Geico too.

Is this normal? I've only seen the clips with Tina Fay as Gov. Palin.

re: #170 SlartyBartfast

It is certainly good to spread the guns around, that's what keeps maniacs with fixed ideas from telling you how to live your life.

Ok SNL sucks but that McD commercial was awesome.

re: #248 Metal Man

I may be biased but we are now 15 minutes into the show and nothing has been funny since Sarah. Even the commercials suck.

Sarah is a way bigger star than any of these klutzes.

This show used to be funny in the 70's.

re: #218 Occasional Reader

Wow. Home burglary?

Can't rightly say. They're all gone, though.

What on earth is this Putz show thing?

I'm about ready to jam a fork in my ears. I wonder if they are sucking this bad on purpose. The thursday weekend up-date shows were pretty decent.

Nice work, un-dead one.

Todd Palin in PA ... watch to the end ... You go girl ...

found on Hillbuzz

re: #253 MrPaulRevere
Yes indeed he does - he can pander like hardly anyone I know - 'cept Obama hisownself!

re: #259 sparrowlake

This show used to be funny in the 70's.

That was the last decade I watched it.

re: #251 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The cavemen used to be funny before they got too big for their britches just like SNL:)