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Politics | Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:41:36 pm PDT

In December 1997, Barack Obama gave William Ayers’ book on juvenile criminals a rave review.

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1 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:42:51pm

Take THAT!

2 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:43:13pm

Ayers wrote that review ...

3 Salem  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:44:07pm

Hopechange?

4 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:44:20pm

Also note this passage from my post:


Just a few weeks before this review was published in the Chicago Tribune, Obama and Ayers appeared together on a panel about juvenile justice organized by Michelle Obama on November 6, 1997:

Children who kill are called “super predators,” “people with no conscience,” “feral pre-social beings” — and “adults.”

William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center’s monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.

Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.

I find it very hard — no, make that impossible — to believe that Barack Obama had “no idea” who William Ayers really was, or that he had a past as a notorious domestic terrorist (as Obama’s campaign has claimed) while serving on panels with Ayers and simultaneously praising Ayers’ book in a major newspaper.

5 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:06pm

"Searing"

ROFLMAO

6 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:06pm

re: #1 zombie

I tried googling around but could find anything interesting about the other reviewers featured. Did you check them out?

7 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:10pm

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

8 driftwood  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:13pm

"Just some guy in my neighborhood."

9 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:33pm

Zombie, I live in Illinois, but how do you dig dirt? I'm not asking for advanced lessons, just for a few pointers to start out.

10 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:34pm

BHO sure likes the word "hope".

11 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:38pm

re: #1 zombie

Zombie, Have you released this on to Fox or Glenn Beck or a trusted news person?

12 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:45:58pm

Obama didn't know who Ayers was before he knew who Ayers was.

And then, he forgot it again, so when he denied he knew it, he was actually forgetting that he had forgotten it, after he knew it, after he didn't. OK now?

13 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:46:07pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

I tried googling around but could find anything interesting about the other reviewers featured. Did you check them out?

Which other reviewers? You mean the ones in the "Mark My Word" column? I think they're just randomly assembled -- they have nothing to do with Obama.

14 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:46:32pm

re: #11 notutopia

Zombie, Have you released this on to Fox or Glenn Beck or a trusted news person?

No -- that's up to YOU!

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:46:43pm

So, if he has denied it so often, this should be a problem; right?

16 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:46:45pm
In December 1997,

He was only 8 years old!

17 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:46:56pm

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

18 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:47:11pm

"The courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair." How come Obama and Ayers do the opposite for me? Rescue despair from my hope?

19 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:47:20pm

re: #13 zombie

Ah, I didn't notice they were reviewing different books. My bad.

20 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:47:31pm

re: #11 notutopia

Zombie, Have you released this on to Fox or Glenn Beck or a trusted news person?

Or Drudge.

21 USCMSNE  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:47:39pm

I thought he was rehabilitated.

/who the hell uses the word rehabilitated?

22 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:47:51pm

Who am I to question the Proclaimed One's Judgement.

23 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:48:12pm

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

Doesn't matter in this case how vile the book is, what matters is that Obama pretends he never heard of it.

Though there was a great editorial on Ayers in WSJ a few days ago, and I'm sure anything with his name on it is plenty vile.

24 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:48:33pm

re: #23 itellu3times

Doesn't matter in this case how vile the book is, what matters is that Obama pretends he never heard of it.

Though there was a great editorial on Ayers in WSJ a few days ago, and I'm sure anything with his name on it is plenty vile.

Good point.

25 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:48:45pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Zombie, I live in Illinois, but how do you dig dirt? I'm not asking for advanced lessons, just for a few pointers to start out.

I have no special knowledge -- Just start pondering what is needed to upset Obama's apple cart.

What I really want to get my hands on is a photo on Obama and Ayers together. I am absolutely positive such photos exist, somewhere in Chicago. If I lived in Illinois, I would try to track them down, night and day.

26 Geepers  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:18pm

zombie,

Just a few weeks before this review was published in the Chicago Tribune, Obama and Ayers appeared together on a panel about juvenile justice organized by Michelle Obama on November 6, 1997:

This is pretty hot. It makes Obama's denials outright lies.

27 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:19pm

re: #16 Occasional Reader

He was only 8 years old!

So his entire adult worldview, value system and judgment is based on what was going on when he was 8 years old?

I can't say what I'd do if I ever met Ayers personally. It wouldn't be illegal, but it wouldn't be pretty either.

28 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:22pm

Words? Just words ... those words Senator Government uses to describe AyerstheBomber are ...so telling ...

29 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:24pm

re: #5 esch

"Searing"

ROFLMAO

Beat me to it. GMTA.

30 conservativeChick  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:43pm

Even back then he still preached Hope and Change(TM).
BARF!/

31 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:53pm

re: #1 zombie
This really belongs on this thread.


Remember this:

I am no one special. I have no special position, or wealth, or education. I'm just a person doing my best to make a difference in this campaign. Everyone here could do exactly what I'm doing. And if we all did, we'd have the Obamatons on the run.

I just got the idea to track down this review -- anyone could have done it, really.

I only wish I lived in Illinois -- I'd be digging dirt on Obama all day long.

Do you live in Illinois? Or anywhere?

Don't praise me -- emulate me!

Hope you don't mind Zombie.

32 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:56pm

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

Thesis: Release all juvenile offenders, regardless of the seriousness of their crimes (including murderers and rapists).

33 winston06  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:49:56pm

Birds of a feather?

34 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:50:07pm

Great detective work, Zombie! I've sent it to folks in Calif, Tenn and Texas. Hubby just had me print it out so we can take it down to our little pub & show it around tonight. LOL

35 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:50:14pm

re: #20 arethusa

Or Drudge.

Do it!

36 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:50:28pm

Much like people confuse "freedom of religion" with "freedom from religion," the Obama camp claims "guilt by association" when the truth is his "guilt of association."

Ayers was a stepping stone, but BHO wasn't counting on getting Marxist Marxshit on his shoe.

37 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:50:37pm

I-I-I d-d-did n-n-ot have journalistic relations with th-th-that man, Ayers.

38 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:51:21pm

re: #17 TheMatrix31

from the Amazon review...

Headlines regularly depict juvenile criminals as extreme and violent "superpredators"?a distorted and incomplete picture that shapes the way Americans think and feel about
poor (and mostly minority) city kids.

For five years, Ayers, a former member of the radical 1960s Weathermen organization, acted as a teacher and an observer in Chicago's Juvenile Court prison, the nation's first?and largest?institution of juvenile justice. Founded by the legendary Jane Addams to act as a "kind and just parent" for children in need, the court today epitomizes the confused and confusing way American justice deals with children. In Ayers's book, an account of one year in his classroom there, students describe their lives, analyze their situations, and think about their futures. Like Jonathan Kozol in Amazing Grace (LJ 10/1/95), Ayers shows that we must overcome our preconceived notions of these children and learn to deal with the realities of their lives. Ayers is a born educator and communicator, with a voice of hope.


It seems juvenile crime is justified if you're non-white and/or poor.

39 gwillie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:51:29pm

Obama is not running to change government he’s running for overthrow government. Ayers wins.

40 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:51:35pm

re: #26 Geepers

zombie,

This is pretty hot. It makes Obama's denials outright lies.

Yes, I agree. But I do not have the time to publicize this at the moment. You (and everyone on this thread) are the ones who need to make it a story!

41 Attaboid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:51:35pm

He's being Ayerboated!
Hahaha.

42 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:52:16pm

re: #34 Pvt Bin Jammin

Great detective work, Zombie! I've sent it to folks in Calif, Tenn and Texas. Hubby just had me print it out so we can take it down to our little pub & show it around tonight. LOL

EXCELLENT!

Good start.

43 Crusty  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:53:30pm

re: #14 zombie

No -- that's up to YOU!

Posted on Flickr. Thanks, Zombie!

44 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:53:41pm

the Proclaimed One

Hint, Hint, Nancy Pelocy, DNC Convention, By Proclamation...
Any GOP types out there?


It made me want to puke hearing it [seriously] , but I guess the rest of the US is OK with it, right. Right GOP?

45 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:53:49pm

Obama, he's such a jokester!

Everyone knows that Billy was just a casual neighbor, and they hardly ever even chatted on the street on those rare occasions where they actually met up.

Real people would understand that truth, but conservatives continue to insist that there's a fire that is making the smoke.

Really, people. It's all "smoke and mirrors". Get a life.

/

46 Driftwood  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:54:06pm

There's more to Zombie's article:

The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a “kind and just parent” for children in crisis.

One hundred years later, the system is “overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist,” Ayers said.

Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University of Chicago Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.

“We know that issues like juvenile justice impact each of us who live in the city of Chicago. This panel gives community members and students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it.”

47 alkizz  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:54:08pm

Finally, none of the folks I work with believe it when I try to tell them BHO is a liar.

thx

48 spirochete  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:54:13pm

re: #41 Attaboid

He's being Ayerboated!
Hahaha.

Ayerboarded!

49 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:54:16pm

Pounding taxes will yield more results than pounding a washed up terrorist. Obama WILL raise your taxes.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

50 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:54:36pm

re: #27 esch

So his entire adult worldview, value system and judgment is based on what was going on when he was 8 years old?

Barry is kind of like Bart Simpson. He's perpetually 8 years old. So he's not responsible for anything bad that's ever happened by his agency, or near him. Got it?

51 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:54:47pm

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

In addition, Obama told the Chicago Tribune in 1997 that a book Ayers wrote about the juvenile court system was "a searing and timely account." This is sometimes billed by Obama's critics as a "book review." Actually, a reporter simply asked three Chicagoans for a sentence about whatever they were reading at the time.

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

52 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:55:12pm

re: #12 itellu3times

Obama didn't know who Ayers was before he knew who Ayers was.

And then, he forgot it again, so when he denied he knew it, he was actually forgetting that he had forgotten it, after he knew it, after he didn't. OK now?

Must drink more...

53 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:55:19pm

re: #7 zombie

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

Do that Zombie- But also email it to everyone!

54 TheMatrix31  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:55:24pm

John McCain didn't vet you properly, Zombie.

55 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:55:26pm

re: #48 spirochete

Ayerboarded!

Ayer-boated!

56 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:55:49pm

re: #50 Occasional Reader

Barry is kind of like Bart Simpson. He's perpetually 8 years old. So he's not responsible for anything bad that's ever happened by his agency, or near him. Got it?

Better than you know. Most of my family are libs. Bleah...

57 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:55:50pm

Obama's record on crime:

*In 1998, Obama was one of only three senators to vote against a proposal making it a criminal offense for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang.
*In 2001, Obama voted against a measure that would have expanded the penalties for some gang activity to include the death penalty. The bill was vetoed by then-Gov. George Ryan (R ) not long after he had issued a moratorium on the death penalty in the state.
Obama, at the time, said the bill would unfairly target minorities, stating, “There’s a strong overlap between gang affiliation and young men of color … I think it’s problematic for them to be singled out as more likely to receive the death penalty for carrying out certain acts than are others who do the same thing.”
*Obama opposes the death penalty except for terrorists, serial killers and child-murderers, but his campaign added that he does not support the death penalty as it is currently administered in this country.
*On a 1999 vote making adult prosecution mandatory for aggravated discharge of a firearm in or near a school, the senator voted “present.”
He explained the vote, saying, “There is really no proof or indication that automatic transfers and increased penalties and adult penalties for juvenile offenses have, in fact, proven to be more effective in reducing juvenile crime or cutting back on recidivism.”
*And in 2001, Obama voted “present” on a bill that would increase penalties for trafficking in Ecstasy and other designer drugs.
The senator questioned the length of some drug penalties when compared to other crimes, noting that selling 15 tablets of Ecstasy was a Class X felony, as was raping a woman at knifepoint.

58 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:56:14pm

That is it.

Could I, Would I, Should I?


"Barry By Proclamation!"

I really should vote for him, after all the DNC did not even need to count votes.

59 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:56:16pm

re: #35 zombie

Do it!

Done. But he never listens to me. :-(

60 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:56:33pm

re: #49 experiencedtraveller

Pounding taxes will yield more results than pounding a washed up terrorist. Obama WILL raise your taxes.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

I agree we need to pick our fights but we do have more than just one hammer.

61 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:56:56pm

Blues tie it up with 'Hawks w/ 13 seconds left! Going to OT!

62 HelloDare  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:57:03pm

In 1988, Michelle Obama and Bernadine Dohrn worked in the same office of the law firm Sidley Austin.
If you worked with in the same office as "American's Most Dangerous Woman", as the FBI called her, I think you hear about it around the water cooler. And it's not like Bernadine was shy about her terrorist activities.

63 Globular Cluster  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:57:10pm

Good work Zombie. Keep up the pressure.

Ya know, the MSM should have done this 1 year ago. Too busy investigating Joe the Plumber and Facebook Diving about Cindy McCain.

64 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:57:21pm

Zombie,
I emailed this with a link to your site to everyone on my email list. I suggest everyone do that. The only way this will get out to the voters is if we take action. The msm will not touch this.

65 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:57:23pm

If I'm not mistaken, 'Ayer' in Spanish means 'yesterday'.

66 RoughRider  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:58:11pm

re: #4 zombie

I find it very hard — no, make that impossible — to believe that Barack Obama had “no idea” who William Ayers really was, or that he had a past as a notorious domestic terrorist (as Obama’s campaign has claimed) while serving on panels with Ayers and simultaneously praising Ayers’ book in a major newspaper.

Is it possible that within the progressive circles of Chicago intelligentsia, Ayers' background as a domestic terrorist isn't viewed as being particularly remarkable or despicable?

67 Sol Roth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:58:21pm

Damn zombie! You've proven that the media socialist elite are covering up the Ayers-Obama connection. How could a "professional journalist" miss this? Answer: because he wanted to.

Great job!

68 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:58:27pm

re: #25 zombie

I have no special knowledge -- Just start pondering what is needed to upset Obama's apple cart.

What I really want to get my hands on is a photo on Obama and Ayers together. I am absolutely positive such photos exist, somewhere in Chicago. If I lived in Illinois, I would try to track them down, night and day.

Being as this is Illinois, digging dirt is easy, but you need to know who to ask, and how to ask. I'd start at the Chicago Public Library (of all places!) to start with Obama/Ayres photos. Just claim you're researching for a favorable biography of Obama. Other places I'd look for info would be the UIC library, and the University of Chicago library (it's in Hyde Park).

69 Noam Sayin'  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:58:33pm

re: #7 zombie

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

Sent and email to the Powerline folks, then put up a thread in their forum.

70 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:58:34pm

re: #41 Attaboid

He's being Ayerboated!
Hahaha.

Zombified, even.

71 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:59:04pm

re: #49 experiencedtraveller

Pounding taxes will yield more results than pounding a washed up terrorist. Obama WILL raise your taxes.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

I concur, but we do have between all of us the resources to hit both angles. Ayers keeps the base motivated, while the tax issue pries away swing voters. The best battle plans employ multiple axises of attack.

72 spirochete  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:59:25pm

re: #70 Dar ul Harb

Zombified, even.

Ayerhead?

73 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:59:28pm

re: #65 Gang of One

If I'm not mistaken, 'Ayer' in Spanish means 'yesterday'.

And all our Ayers have lighted fools
the way to dusty death

74 Daisy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 7:59:35pm

"... and the courageous folks who rescue hope from despair.."

Oh, I don't know about that -- Obama has managed to put despair right into the center of hope for me.

Zombie, great work! What do you think the possibility/probability is of Ayers having ghost written "Dreams of My Father" for that guy in his neighborhood, Obama?

75 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:00:04pm

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

Isn't factcheck owned by Anenberg?

76 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:00:08pm

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:


I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

I realize this is not a "new" story -- what I wanted to do, my only goal, was to get a "visual" of Obama and Ayers together. This is as close as I could get.

77 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:00:10pm

re: #65 Gang of One

1. yesterday ayer por la mañana -> yesterday morning
ayer (por la) noche -> last night
2. in the past (en el pasado)

Spanish to English.

78 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:00:27pm

My very smart and sweet, but misguided, nephew, who is working with poor kids in inner city Flint told me that he watched one of the debates with Ayers and Dohrn. He said Ayers' view was that "he sure doesn't like Obama now." Obviously because Obama has gone too "centrist" for Bill Ayers. Yikes.

79 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:00:33pm

re: #62 HelloDare

re: #72 spirochete

Ayerhead?

Dohrned?

80 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:00:54pm

re: #64 newsjunkie_ky

Zombie,
I emailed this with a link to your site to everyone on my email list. I suggest everyone do that. The only way this will get out to the voters is if we take action. The msm will not touch this.

Thank you!

81 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:01:11pm

re: #60 Metal Man

I agree we need to pick our fights but we do have more than just one hammer.

Its the fourth quarter and the home team is down by a field goal.

We have already run our slick plays.

Time to pound the ball up the middle where we have strength from several variables.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

82 HelloDare  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:02:23pm

Obama: "Oh, that William Ayers! I thought you meant Bill Ayers the plumber who snaked out my pipes."

83 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:02:23pm

re: #77 sngnsgt

Spanish to English.

A shorter answer: Yes, "ayer" means "yesterday" in Spanish.

84 Gang of One  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:02:40pm

Yesterday with Ayers. Or, Ayer con Ayers. Whichever way, Obama and the Terrorist are linked.

85 Syrah  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:02:48pm

This is a post to email to all of our friends and family.

(8 years old my ass.)

86 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:02:51pm

"Who you gonna believe, some anonymous undead creature on the right-wing blogs, or your own lying eyes?"
--Obama (not yet)

87 ArmyWife  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:03:00pm

re: #7 zombie

Done. Have no fear, all 3 of my followers will be reading this shortly!

/one day I will have fans and people

88 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:03:11pm

re: #82 HelloDare

Obama: "Oh, that William Ayers! I thought you meant Bill Ayers the plumber who snaked out my pipes."

*snort*

89 Sol Roth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:03:23pm
William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

90 jas  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:03:39pm

re: #75 MandyManners

Isn't factcheck owned by Anenberg?

I believe the proper term is "funded" by the Annenberg Project.

91 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:03:50pm

re: #81 experiencedtraveller

Its the fourth quarter and the home team is down by a field goal.

We have already run our slick plays.

Time to pound the ball up the middle where we have strength from several variables.

Taxes. Taxes. Taxes.

They have a strong defense to our Taxes run (I'll lower taxes on 95%) yeah it's a fake but seems effective.

92 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:03:50pm

Just some guy in my neighborhood..

93 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:04:06pm

Doesn't Ayers have some really crackpot ideas about juvenille rehab - stuff about taking hardened criminals out of jail and pretty much just turning them loose under "community organizer" supervision? I don't recall details, just that it was his typical nihilist Romantic nonsense, disguising his desire to destroy our society as a "radical" idea to help it.

The guy is fucking nuts, and so is his wife, and I think we would all be well-served to have a central source for information about who he REALLY is. None of this "former radical" or "educator" or whatever, just a collection of his own words that illustrate the fact that he's a trust fund terrorist who hates this country only slightly more than he hates himself, and that he's secure in Chicago not because he's rehabilitated, but because Chicago is a corrupt leftist shithole that idolises people like him.

94 Daisy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:04:18pm

"... How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?”

Maybe leftover ammo from the Weathermen?

95 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:04:21pm

re: #75 MandyManners

Isn't factcheck owned by Anenberg?

Well, Annenberg (now dead) founded the center that funds it, so, yeah, kinda, and it's definitely not impartial. I assume it's the same Annenberg as the Challenge name?

96 slotgun  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:04:44pm

Gee, I don't get it: I write jacket promos all the time for book-writing terrorists who are guys that happen to live in my neighborhood. What's your point.

/SARC

97 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:04:49pm

re: #80 zombie
I am humbled and honored to kinda know you.

98 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:04:56pm

re: #73 Occasional Reader

And all our Ayers have lighted fools
the way to dusty death

Out, out, brief candle.

99 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:05:12pm

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

Oh, we gotta take your guns away for the children.

*ahem* I mean the Obama Youth.

100 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:05:18pm

re: #81 experiencedtraveller

And Joe the Plumber just came off the bench.

101 Crusty  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:05:31pm

re: #68 Honorary Yooper

Being as this is Illinois, digging dirt is easy, but you need to know who to ask, and how to ask. I'd start at the Chicago Public Library (of all places!) to start with Obama/Ayres photos. Just claim you're researching for a favorable biography of Obama. Other places I'd look for info would be the UIC library, and the University of Chicago library (it's in Hyde Park).

Newberry Library in Chicago, a private but open to the public research library...not to mention a very leftist library...is also a good source to dig in.

102 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:05:35pm

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

Bill Ruger might just as well have pulled that trigger himself.

/

103 HelloDare  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:05:46pm

Obama: "Oh Bernadine Dohrn! I thought you meant Marilyn Horne the opera diva.

104 RobCon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:06:07pm

I always write blurbs for people I hardly know and don't respect.
Barry is gonna have to fess up to this one.

105 Adina in Judea  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:06:09pm

re: #66 RoughRider

re: #4 zombie

I find it very hard — no, make that impossible — to believe that Barack Obama had “no idea” who William Ayers really was, or that he had a past as a notorious domestic terrorist (as Obama’s campaign has claimed) while serving on panels with Ayers and simultaneously praising Ayers’ book in a major newspaper.

Is it possible that within the progressive circles of Chicago intelligentsia, Ayers' background as a domestic terrorist isn't viewed as being particularly remarkable or despicable?

This is completely out of the question.

In Chicago, domestic terrorism is a badge of honor. Ayers didn't even need to go to Harvard. He was already a mega-celebrity in left wing circles.

There's no way on Earth that Obama could have traveled in those circles without knowing Ayers' claim to fame as a domestic "insurgent" (as Ayers himself like to call violent rebellion from within America.)

106 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:06:33pm

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

Unasked third question: "Is he using it for the right purposes? Because I totally know some people who could give his anger the correct focus - on the system, man! Where it belongs! He should be killing pigs, not his own people..."

107 JeremyR  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:06:35pm

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I haven't heard much about Ayers book. Can someone tell me some specific points of how vile it is?

Basicly, he wants to give a free pass to juvenile criminals because they are kids.
FWIW, I think juvenile crime should be limited to age specific actions such as Minor in possession. Once they are of age that is no longer an issue. adult crimes should be tried as adult crimes. murder is murder whether the perp is sixteen or sixty. Gangs use younger kids to do the shooting because they will get by with a hand slap.

108 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:06:43pm

re: #93 Pawn of the Oppressor

Ayers just wants all violent felons to have the freedom he has regardless of their crimes.

109 bryantms  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:07:19pm

How many times will this fool get a pass with the mainstream media? When will anything catch?

110 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:07:37pm

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

111 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:07:54pm

my BS detector goes on full alert whenever I read something that uses phrases such as:
"rescue hope from despair"
or
"open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community"

112 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:08:08pm

McCain needs to use this and the earlier story Charles had up about 'sharing an office' in an ad. Great visuals.

113 Sol Roth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:09:24pm

re: #99 Dar ul Harb

Oh, we gotta take your guns away for the children.

*ahem* I mean the Obama Youth.

Yes, It's For The ChildrenTM. You're For The ChildrenTM aren't you comrade Dar ul Harb?

That's coming to a re-education center near you folks.

114 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:09:43pm

re: #110 ACJohn

Pick me...

115 Outrider  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:09:48pm

Might as well use Fightthesmears.com as a reference point.

“The suggestion that Ayers was a political adviser to Obama or someone who shaped his political views is patently false,” said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman. Mr. LaBolt said the men first met in 1995 through the education project, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and have encountered each other occasionally in public life or in the neighborhood. He said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they bumped into each other on the street in Hyde Park.

Guess they really researched this "smear" eh?

116 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:09:59pm

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?


I can't believe that horrid josh brolin is hosting. What a putz.

117 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:10:10pm

Barry may not have been eight years old at the time, but he looks to be about seventeen in the photo. Note the pompous pose with the "impressive-looking" law reporters on the shelf in the background. Just plain silly.

118 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:10:37pm

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

Nope, I'm packing for a trip (with LGF breaks).

119 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:10:39pm

re: #42 zombie

Will keep going with it tomorrow. I know my friend in Tenn. will send it around too.

120 experiencedtraveller  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:10:44pm

re: #91 Metal Man

They have a strong defense to our Taxes run (I'll lower taxes on 95%) yeah it's a fake but seems effective.

The tax issue has proven late game momentum. (Sorry, good linky lost...)

121 Bobibutu  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:11:30pm

re: #7 zombie

Please, everyone, repost that image on your blogs -- I want the world to see it!

You dig deep while others sleep - Kudos Zom - will do.

122 Victoire  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:11:40pm

I think this is important:
Bounty to be paid by American News Project for videos showing "Republican Rage"

ANP is working on a series between now and Nov. 4 analyzing the phenomenon of rage among McCain-Palin supporters which has surfaced in the past few weeks. Our first piece in the series will debut next week as we look at the rising tension at rallies we’ve attended, the effect of negative ads on the GOP base and John McCain’s and the RNC’s responsibility in fanning the flames.

For the other stories in this series, we need your help. Between now and Nov. 4, we want to document this rising rage nationwide at GOP rallies or anywhere else. If you have any evidence of rage, bigotry or deliberate misinformation among McCain supporters, whether at an official rally or elsewhere (local GOP groups, etc.), we need your help to video these events.

ANP producers have witnessed intimidation of Obama supporters, hate speech, racial epithets at these rallies. (TSM: Typically they will lie their way into a story and facts-be-damned) Our own reporters have been restricted by Republican operatives from speaking to supporters of John McCain or Sarah Palin.

123 Sol Roth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:12:04pm

re: #102 Occasional Reader

Bill Ruger might just as well have pulled that trigger himself.

/

Bankrupt the evil gun manufacturers, It's For The ChildrenTM!

124 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:12:11pm

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

I'll be watching.

125 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:12:15pm

Gotta log off. Cheerio!

126 wong fei hung  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:12:29pm

Has this Sorosian puppet ever uttered a sentence that DIDN'T include the word hope?

-WFH

127 jas  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:13:09pm

What remains so disturbing is that, from all evidence that continues to be put before the public, it is very clear that "Dear Leader" remains a magnet for every anti-American, far left or Marxist voice of influence that crosses his path. Anyone denying this is either oblivious or doesn't care. The sheer number of Americans that fall into either category is rather disheartening. To believe that he is anything more than the Manchurian candidate from the Left perverse fantasies, and that he is anywhere near the center is dishonest. He is deliberately being forced done the throats of the American voting populace in a cynical ploy of racism.

128 HelloDare  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:13:10pm

re: #125 zombie

Gotta log off. Cheerio!

Frosted Flakes -- They're Great!

129 Sol Roth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:13:47pm

re: #110 ACJohn

OT Who is going to watch SNL tonight to see what happens with Sarah?

Not I. My TV skips the National Barack Channel.

130 Sparkizzy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:14:51pm

Do I laugh or cry? [Link: kotaku.com...]

131 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:15:09pm

re: #129 Sol Roth

My guess best ratings for SNL in many years.

132 Yankee Division Son  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:15:23pm

McCain is battle-tested, ready

Editor of the Reformer:

My name is Tom Burns, and I am classified as a 100 percent service connected disabled veteran. I was hit in the head in Vietnam back in 1968 and it paralyzed my left side.

Now when I tell people this I always add "the paralysis is the bad news -- the good news is my name is not on the Vietnam Memorial known as 'The Wall,' located in Washington, D.C., that contains some 58,000-plus names of American service men and women who gave their lives in Vietnam."

I am writing this letter in support of John McCain, not just because he is a fellow disabled Vietnam veteran who knows first hand, the terrible guilt feelings that remain with returning battlefield soldiers throughout their lives because a political decision was made (not a military one) to end the war before it was won.

John McCain won't let history repeat itself in Iraq. He will bring our service men and women home from Iraq as soon as our commanders on the ground (not some politician in Washington) determine they have successfully completed their mission and will return home with pride and dignity.

Now we all know John McCain has dedicated his life to serving this country and it has cost him a great deal. Just think for a minute -- picture yourself all alone in a small dark cell as a prisoner of war in excruciating pain and horrible conditions for 512 years and yet refusing to be set free when offered because another prisoner had been there longer he must be released first because that is military protocol.

With acts like that -- John McCain has certainly proved himself having been tested under fire to have extremely high moral and ethical standards coupled with his devotion to his comrades and his country has demonstrated the command characteristics of a great leader and I believe superbly qualified to be commander in chief.

D. Thomas Burns

Bellows Falls, Oct. 11

133 thedude  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:16:21pm

a great political cartoon of BHO...

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

134 jetprop  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:16:25pm

But..but..0bama was only eight years old when he wrote that review..honest..
/sarc

135 spirochete  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:16:59pm

Man, 512 years, that's a long, long time.

136 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:04pm

re: #131 ACJohn

My guess best ratings for SNL in many years.


Will have to be because I am sure there will be other people like me...who never watch SNL... will be watching tonight...just to see Sarah.

137 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:09pm

Bernadine is not getting enough play ... I know it is harder to get evidence of them together ... so I hope the babysitting things gets found out ...Bernadine was more in charge of Weatherman than BillyBomber ...

138 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:25pm

Earlier I posted a report from CBS fact-checking the people claiming "I am Joe the Plumber" as to whether they really were plumbers or named Joe.

The Corner has a very funny, very snarky follow-up observation:

Attention, crack CBS News Fact Check Unit! The man in this picture claiming to be a Berliner is, in fact, from Massachusetts. Furthermore, as a citizen of the United States, he is not eligible to vote in Berlin municipal elections.

139 jetprop  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:30pm

re: #133 thedude

a great political cartoon of BHO...

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

LMAO

140 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:31pm

What's next, they were homosexual lovers? I mean ... isn't that the next level of closeness?

141 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:48pm

re: #120 experiencedtraveller

The tax issue has proven late game momentum. (Sorry, good linky lost...)

I don't disagree other than we need to mix up the plays to spread their defense.

I started out thinking of just taxes and their impact on the voters. 1/2 of the population pays none or gets paid. Then aretheUSA mentioned Joe the Plumber and that does give that attack more effectiveness. But I still think since politics is not football running multiple attacks is a better strategy.

142 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:17:58pm

Zombie, thanks for this timely and searing account of the insidious Marxist that the Democrats have nominated this time around, and his connections to known domestic terrorists.

143 PETN Sandwich  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:18:19pm

Barry Obama may be a future footnote* in history,

*Barrack Hussein Obama was the DNC candidate by "Proclamation" -
- then became under what was presumed by some extremists as voter fraud by ACORN (plaintiffs found to be without standing) President, then nominated himself as Chief of the Supreme Court of the US Supreme Court, expanded the Court to 21 members, all new members approved unanimously by the DNC supported Legislature, ran and was elected by 95% to 100% popular vote for his third and forth terms due to incredible support just as his early nemesis, which brought him to the forefront of American politics did, Saddam Hussein. Nonetheless, Throughout Obama's administration, he suffered many trials of vocal and violent treason, but was very successful at prosecution of sedition.

144 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:18:20pm

re: #140 Archimedes

What's next, they were homosexual lovers? I mean ... isn't that the next level of closeness?

You didn't know ...

145 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:18:51pm

re: #133 thedude

a great political cartoon of BHO...

[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

Brilliant!

146 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:18:53pm

re: #89 Sol Roth

Gee, I wonder where Comrade Ayers is going with that line of reasoning, hmmm?

I can answer that: Obama: ‘I’m Not Going to Take Your Guns Away'.

"Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,"

...as though the Constitution presents no roadblock.

If you need further evidence:

John Lott spoke, with an interesting point. He'd held a fellowship at Univ. of Chicago School of Law, when Obama was a prof. or sorta-prof. there, and they talked a few times. The first time Obama said "oh, you're the gun guy." When he said that he was, Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns." Lott said maybe they should talk about it. Obama just smirked and left without a word.

147 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:19:01pm

re: #133 thedude

Now THAT's the essence of political cartooning. Awesome.

Think I'm going to get a copy of that framed.

148 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:19:05pm

re: #66 RoughRider

Is it possible that within the progressive circles of Chicago intelligentsia, Ayers' background as a domestic terrorist isn't viewed as being particularly remarkable or despicable?

umm yes its possible, here is Mayor Daley who made Ayers Chicago Citizen of the Year.
"He worked with me in shaping our now nationally renowned school reform program. He is a nationally recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community."

149 Crusty  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:19:07pm

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:

I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

So Factcheck.org says we should simply dismiss this connection because he didn't review the book, he just gave the book a review...a few weeks after sitting on a panel with the author of the book...a panel arranged by his wife...

150 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:20:07pm

re: #122 Victoire

I have video on my site of Obama supporters shouting at and heckling McCain supporters as they left a rally at Capital University. The McCain supporters did nothing to provoke it and did not intimidate the Obamatrons.

151 Dar ul Harb  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:20:34pm

re: #144 jacksontn

You didn't know ...

Oh, so that's what he means by "meeting without preconditions"...

152 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:22:21pm

A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court

I'm waiting for the sequel:

Just An Unrepentent Terrorist Parent: The Views of An Obama Advocate

153 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:22:48pm

This post from Hillbuzz should encourage any Lizard feeling despair. On this date in 2004, Kerry was said to be leading in 13 swing states.

Remind me: what happened that year?

154 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:22:51pm

Another BHO the Plumber cartoon.

155 MrSnuggles  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:22:55pm

re: #122 Victoire


If there really was "rage" from McCain supporters, it would be plastered all over the news. The fake rage makes it there, after all.

156 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:23:37pm

re: #146 SlartyBartfast

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

/I wonder if his Secret Service detachment accedes to his beliefs and carries spitballs

157 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:25:59pm

re: #156 Palandine

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

/I wonder if his Secret Service detachment accedes to his beliefs and carries spitballs

what he means by that is that the state should own all the guns.

158 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:26:17pm

re: #156 Palandine

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

In the words of King Leonidas:

"Come and get them."

159 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:26:21pm

“Telling us what to think has evolved into telling us what to say. So telling us what to do can’t be very far away.” - Charlton Heston

160 USCMSNE  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:26:22pm

re: #156 Palandine

Obama said "I don't believe people should be allowed to own guns."

/I wonder if his Secret Service detachment accedes to his beliefs and carries spitballs

You just hit me with a serious case of Deja Vu. That very point was made about someone else. i.e. very anti 2nd amendment, anti gun, all the while surrounded by armed guards... Damned if I'll remember who now.

161 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:27:44pm

re: #160 USCMSNE

You just hit me with a serious case of Deja Vu. That very point was made about someone else. i.e. very anti 2nd amendment, anti gun, all the while surrounded by armed guards... Damned if I'll remember who now.

Wasn't it Rosie O'Donnell?

162 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:27:44pm

re: #158 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In the words of King Leonidas:

"Come and get them."

All mine have been stolen. It's very sad.

163 Sol Roth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:27:50pm

re: #146 SlartyBartfast

Slarty, he will have the votes in Congress:

A Liberal Supermajority
Get ready for 'change' we haven't seen since 1965, or 1933.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

If the current polls hold, Barack Obama will win the White House on November 4 and Democrats will consolidate their Congressional majorities, probably with a filibuster-proof Senate or very close to it. Without the ability to filibuster, the Senate would become like the House, able to pass whatever the majority wants.

Though we doubt most Americans realize it, this would be one of the most profound political and ideological shifts in U.S. history. Liberals would dominate the entire government in a way they haven't since 1965, or 1933. In other words, the election would mark the restoration of the activist government that fell out of public favor in the 1970s. If the U.S. really is entering a period of unchecked left-wing ascendancy, Americans at least ought to understand what they will be getting, especially with the media cheering it all on.

He'll outlaw them alright.

164 big L  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:28:15pm

51 arethusa-- kind of like talking by happenstance to a plumber about his plan for expansion and telling him he is going to be taxed til his wealth is spread around...

165 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:28:18pm

re: #162 Palandine

All mine have been stolen. It's very sad.

You, too?

Lot of that going around...

166 wildcat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:28:28pm

Letterman is really hung up on Palin asserting, "palling around with terrorist, Willaim Ayers, someone needs to school Letterman so he doesn't keep making a fool out of himself over this,

167 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:28:37pm

re: #153 arethusa

This post from Hillbuzz should encourage any Lizard feeling despair. On this date in 2004, Kerry was said to be leading in 13 swing states.

Remind me: what happened that year?

Boston won the World Series.

168 thedude  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:28:42pm

another great political cartoon of BHO...
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

169 Northpaw  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:29:00pm

Linking this as fast as I can. Zombie, Charles, you are truly worthy.

170 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:29:44pm

Personally, I'm clinging to my guns and religion. To paraphrase BHO: "I think when you spread the wealth guns around, it's good for everybody."

171 USCMSNE  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:29:54pm

re: #161 gop_patriot

Wasn't it Rosie O'Donnell?

That might have been her... Another winner.

172 big L  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:30:24pm

156 paladine- Check out story in world Net Daily on gus. guns shop owner said that the USGovt took his software for gun registration and is using it sub rosa.
/I don't know enough about the issues but sounds darn serious.

173 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:30:34pm

re: #168 thedude

another great political cartoon of BHO...
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

I love Michael Ramirez.

174 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:30:36pm

re: #12 itellu3times

Say that ain't a Cheneyism.

175 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:30:49pm

SNL just started.

176 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:31:03pm

re: #83 Occasional Reader

A shorter answer: Yes, "ayer" means "yesterday" in Spanish.

Sí.

177 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:31:06pm
178 big L  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:31:11pm

51 .."On guns"...not gus.

179 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:33:20pm

re: #177 ploome hineni

That's the result of Soros' ass.

180 big L  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:34:03pm

177 ploome hineni- both have had some great plastic srugery ,imo. Michelle the terror looks lik she might have had a repaired hare-lip.There is something going on there.
Maybe skin lightening for Oby ,also

181 WindHorse  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:34:09pm

re: #135 spirochete

that's how long I was married! It is a long time!

182 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:34:34pm

re: #14 zombie

Zombie, Done! To the producer of Beck, Beck himself and to his Webmaster.
All kudos to your blog site. Requested anonymity until they contact you for release. I hope the webmaster is still awake!

183 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:35:07pm

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

184 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:35:15pm

Sarah did great in the opening.

185 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:35:33pm

Yeah ... was that it?

186 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:35:37pm

re: #183 ciaospirit

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

Yep. TV puff. I wonder if she'll be back on at all this evening.

187 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:00pm

re: #183 ciaospirit

Yes great opening.

188 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:00pm

re: #177 ploome hineni

when did Obama have his nose narrowed and refined? looks like a good job

Was wondering the same.

189 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:00pm

Cuz ... I am turning it off if she is done ...

190 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:16pm

re: #183 ciaospirit

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

saw it, didn't think much of it, in terms of creativity or as being very funny.

191 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:22pm

re: #183 ciaospirit

Anybody just see Sarah Palin on SNL?

Yep...AWESOME!

192 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:33pm
Live from New York, it's Saturday Night!

/Sarah Palin

193 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:51pm

And with Alec Baldwin no less.

194 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:36:52pm

Well I just turned off josh brolinputz.
Let us know if Sarah comes back.

195 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:37:02pm

I'm sure Sarah will be in some skits. Stay tuned.
;)

196 capitalist piglet  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:37:21pm

re: #4 zombie

I wonder what it would take for it to dawn on the American people that Obama lied to them about all this, and that it is every bit the lie that "I did not have sex with that woman" was.

What is it going to take to wake them the hell up to this person's character?

197 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:37:31pm

Well good evening all y'all! This fact of Obama giving a blurb on one of Ayers book covers was discussed in a Dead thread - I think last Monday, by our good friend Kenneth - showing that even Canadian lizards are on top of this Obama bullshit that he didn't know Ayers well, that he was only 8 when Ayers tried to murder people and - silence - about serving on a board of directors with Ayers for 10 years when Obama was an adult.
The more that comes out about the TRUTH of Obama, I hope the more people wonder about him.

198 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:37:59pm

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

Hi newjunkie, I'll take one for the team and let you know.

199 Salem  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:38:02pm

With our open and democratic system there has always been a risk that it would be openly and democratically swiped by foreign persuasions who will have no further need of it's openness and democracy.

200 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:38:02pm

re: #172 big L

156 paladine- Check out story in world Net Daily on gus. guns shop owner said that the USGovt took his software for gun registration and is using it sub rosa.
/I don't know enough about the issues but sounds darn serious.

For those of you who own guns (and again, since mine were stolen, it's a moot point), where legal: gun shows. Pay cash.

Country's largest anti-hunting organization endorses Obama

201 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:38:07pm

re: #188 ciaospirit

Was wondering the same.

This sites talks about the plastic surgery ...

[Link: www.makemeheal.com...]

who knows ...

202 wee fury  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:38:15pm

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

Well I just turned off josh brolinputz.
Let us know if Sarah comes back.

Me too.

203 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:38:32pm

Josh Brolin sucks.

204 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:39:01pm

I tuned in 3 minutes late to SNL and missed Palin. What was it like?

205 wolfie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:39:07pm

re: #163 Sol Roth

A chilling prediction, and, unlike the silly talk of gulags and storm-troopers, an extremely realistic one.
And it doesn't even address the foreign dangers that we face.

206 uptight  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:39:33pm

"just some guy from the neighbourhood" Barack O'Liar

207 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:39:38pm

I can't believe that Sarah is on with Oliver Stone in the audience.

208 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:39:43pm

Stone plugging his movie "W".

209 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:40:04pm

re: #198 x-wing

Hi newjunkie, I'll take one for the team and let you know.

Thanks. I'll turn it back on but put it on mute until I hear from you. You brave soul.

210 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:40:05pm

re: #204 arethusa

I tuned in 3 minutes late to SNL and missed Palin. What was it like?

She'll be back... typical opening bit "surprise, look who's here"

211 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:40:14pm

OMG Oliver Stone was on SNL I need to was my eyes like a rape victim taking a shower.

212 arethusa  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:40:41pm

re: #167 solomonpanting

Boston won the World Series.

...and Kerry lost. Hee. Maybe if the Phils don't win the Red Sox could...

213 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:40:58pm

re: #204 arethusa

I tuned in 3 minutes late to SNL and missed Palin. What was it like?

She was smooth.

214 widefault  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:41:02pm

Any one know if Ayers book has an "About the Author" on the front or back jacket or some kind of bio inside? If so, what kind of info is there? Be hard to say someone didn't know his background if it's right there on the book you've been quoted as reading. And if is his past is mentioned, they were still exchanging phone calls for 8 years after BO would have found out Ayers was a terrorist.

215 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:41:18pm

re: #200 Palandine

I personally have in these hard economic times had to sell off all the guns I didn't buy for cash at gun shows. Not that I ever bought any for cash.

216 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:41:37pm

re: #194 newsjunkie_ky

Well I just turned off josh brolinputz.
Let us know if Sarah comes back.

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

217 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:41:52pm

re: #206 uptight

"just some guy from the neighbourhood" Barack O'Liar

"It depends on what your definition of neighborhood is" Obama

218 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:42:44pm

re: #162 Palandine

All mine have been stolen. It's very sad.

Wow. Home burglary?

219 Random_Lizard  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:42:46pm

Why is Sarah Palin putting in an appearance on SNL? Especially when it is being hosted by someone promoting yet another anti-US movie to be distributed abroad?

220 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:42:55pm

re: #211 ACJohn

OMG Oliver Stone was on SNL I need to was my eyes like a rape victim taking a shower.

very appropriate, the guy is the biggest sleaze in town.

221 SurferDoc  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:42:57pm

re: #109 bryantms

How many times will this fool get a pass with the mainstream media? When will anything catch?

Two years into his second term.

222 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:43:24pm

re: #216 Inquisitive

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

Because it stinks?

223 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:43:45pm

re: #207 Irene NYC

I can't believe that Sarah is on with Oliver Stone in the audience.

Yeah, they really brought the lefties out tonight. Just shows how sceered they are of her.

/kick ass Sarah.

224 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:44:01pm

re: #211 ACJohn

OMG Oliver Stone was on SNL I need to was my eyes like a rape victim taking a shower.

Chit should say wash not was

225 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:44:19pm

Remember when politicians were elected to office before the lies flowed forth?

226 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:44:24pm

re: #216 Inquisitive

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

It has become extremely tiresome. I tried to watch it last year some but got really sick of it really fast. I must admit 30Rock is a funny show. I'm also dvr(ing) it in case she does come back and I miss it. But I'm in the office and TV is behind me. Just use it for FoxNews mainly.

227 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:45:27pm

re: #225 solomonpanting

Remember when politicians were elected to office before the lies flowed forth?

Back in Solomon's day, they just had to be born to the right family.

228 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:45:28pm

re: #223 x-wing

Yeah, they really brought the lefties out tonight. Just shows how sceered they are of her.

/kick ass Sarah.

That's a good point.

229 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:45:57pm

re: #216 Inquisitive

okay... I am remembering why I don't watch this show!

It is painful. Belushis' doing back flips in his grave

230 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:46:02pm

I just looked at the back cover of that book on Amazon ... Clarence Page wrote a review of the book ... I could not stand that guy before ... now ...(spit)

231 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:46:43pm

I'm going to need therapy after that sushi skit.

I still have no idea what it was about.

232 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:46:44pm

SNL proves the theory of inertia. An object in motion tend to stay in motion.

233 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:46:58pm

re: #227 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Back in Solomon's day, they just had to be born to the right family.

And today they just have to belong to the right party.

234 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:47:25pm

re: #220 alien_mind

very appropriate, the guy is the biggest sleaze in town.

And that's one BIG town.

235 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:47:25pm

re: #219 Random_Lizard

Why is Sarah Palin putting in an appearance on SNL? Especially when it is being hosted by someone promoting yet another anti-US movie to be distributed abroad?

That movie's gonna flop just like the rest,no biggie.

236 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:47:31pm

re: #231 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'm going to need therapy after that sushi skit.

I still have no idea what it was about.

if you figure it out could you fill me in?

237 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:47:49pm
238 sandspur  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:47:51pm

Mad TV is usually funnier. It takes comedy to a whole 'notha level

239 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:47:52pm

Liar!
Running for president.

NObama!
NoLiars!

240 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:48:05pm

Zombie, I sent the link to the Hillary Clinton Forum. Also sent the LGF thread about O and Ayers sharing an office building for three years.

241 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:48:12pm

A book of teary sympathy for murderers, though young murderers.

Ah, I get it.

Thinking well of this, like, means you are so far advanced, a lightworker even, that you would make a great president, and redeem America in the eyes of the world.

HOOOCCCKK...


TOOO — EEE!

242 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:48:24pm

re: #109 bryantms

How many times will this fool get a pass with the mainstream media? When will anything catch?

Judging by the example of our LAST Democrat Messiah, Mr. Clinton? About fifteen years from now, or maybe more because he's an extra-special (read: non-white) case. Unless he turns out to be a conservative in disguise, or he embarasses anybody in the MSM... The former is highly unlikely, the latter is not even possible, given the extents to which they'll cover up for him.

243 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:48:29pm

re: #236 alien_mind

if you figure it out could you fill me in?

You make it sound like I'm really going to try...

244 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:48:30pm

re: #222 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Because it stinks?

Oh yes... because it stinks, it is pure stupidity and is not in the least bit funny..IMHO

245 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:48:42pm

re: #235 x-wing

That movie's gonna flop just like the rest,no biggie.


I agree. For one thing who the frack is joshbrolinputz? A hasbeen that never was.

246 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:49:12pm

re: #163 Sol Roth Hey Sol!
Long time, no chat - must be on different schedules or something.
Anyway, there are TWO ways to look at that supermajority crap.
First of all I don't think Obama is gonna win this election, even with the MSM, ACORN and SCOTUS pulling for him.
But if he should and if the Dems get a Supermajority, just think - they'll be responsible for EVERYTHING that happens in government. And the 2010 off year elections look like a walk in the park for Republicans!

247 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:49:13pm

Wow, I haven't watched SNL in a long, long time.

Lame. Really lame.

248 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:49:45pm

I may be biased but we are now 15 minutes into the show and nothing has been funny since Sarah. Even the commercials suck.

249 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:49:46pm

i hope that W movies tanks and doesn't make the top ten.
Stone is a disgrace.

250 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:49:58pm

re: #244 Inquisitive

Oh yes... because it stinks, it is pure stupidity and is not in the least bit funny..IMHO

Not even a shadow of what it once was.

251 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:50:30pm

re: #248 Metal Man

I may be biased but we are now 15 minutes into the show and nothing has been funny since Sarah. Even the commercials suck.

Now, now... the So Easy a Caveman can do it ones are always good.

252 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:50:44pm

re: #211 ACJohn

I understand the sentiment, but I dinged you down for your comparison. Not cool, IMO.

253 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:50:44pm

re: #235 x-wing

Actually, I expect "W" to rake in huge dough. There is a worldwide audience for it after all. I dislike Oliver Stone immensely, but give the man his due, he gives an audience what it wants.

254 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:50:55pm

re: #226 newsjunkie_ky
Hey {newsjunkie_ky} whatcha doing in the office so late, hmmm?!

255 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:51:07pm

re: #192 sngnsgt

/Sarah Palin

It took me ten minutes to find NBC - it's been a long time since I watched any network TV.

So - SNL. I liked the part with Gov. Palin. So far, the rest has been unbearable. The Burger King commercial was funnier than the show. Geico too.

Is this normal? I've only seen the clips with Tina Fay as Gov. Palin.

256 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:51:15pm

re: #170 SlartyBartfast

It is certainly good to spread the guns around, that's what keeps maniacs with fixed ideas from telling you how to live your life.

257 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:51:24pm

Ok SNL sucks but that McD commercial was awesome.

258 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:51:30pm

re: #248 Metal Man

I may be biased but we are now 15 minutes into the show and nothing has been funny since Sarah. Even the commercials suck.

Sarah is a way bigger star than any of these klutzes.

259 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:51:43pm

This show used to be funny in the 70's.

260 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:51:50pm

re: #218 Occasional Reader

Wow. Home burglary?

Can't rightly say. They're all gone, though.

261 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:52:54pm

What on earth is this Putz show thing?

262 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:53:19pm

I'm about ready to jam a fork in my ears. I wonder if they are sucking this bad on purpose. The thursday weekend up-date shows were pretty decent.

263 coquimbojoe  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:53:26pm

Nice work, un-dead one.

264 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:53:51pm

Todd Palin in PA ... watch to the end ... You go girl ...

found on Hillbuzz

265 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:53:52pm

re: #253 MrPaulRevere
Yes indeed he does - he can pander like hardly anyone I know - 'cept Obama hisownself!

266 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:53:58pm

re: #259 sparrowlake

This show used to be funny in the 70's.

That was the last decade I watched it.

267 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:53:58pm

re: #251 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The cavemen used to be funny before they got too big for their britches just like SNL:)

268 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:54:35pm

re: #253 MrPaulRevere

Actually, I expect "W" to rake in huge dough. There is a worldwide audience for it after all. I dislike Oliver Stone immensely, but give the man his due, he gives an audience what it wants.


Possible, but he hasn't done anything lately. Alexander?

269 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:54:40pm

re: #259 sparrowlake

This show used to be funny in the 70's.

Talk about living on past greatness. This is bloody awful.

270 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:55:17pm

re: #266 Cattt

If you smash a cathode ray type TV it will implode.

(The picture tube is evacuated.)

271 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:55:44pm

I don't think I can take much more of this...even to see Sarah.

272 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:55:55pm

re: #268 x-wing

Possible, but he hasn't done anything lately. Alexander?

But Hollyweird keeps giving him a blank check, apparently.

273 nightlight  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:00pm

Just gone done watching the history channel -- a special on body language. They brought up some politicians and talked about Obama. They talked about how Obama has the ability (through his voice, pitch, gestures, etc) to cause people to feel emotion, but that people at the end of the speech, they might not even remember what he said!

They really are all being hypnotized!

They also brought up McCain and said he does the exact opposite of Obama, that he truly is a straight talker!

If you get a chance to catch a re-run of this, it really is interesting.

274 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:11pm

Ayers has a thing for little criminals.

275 sandspur  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:13pm

I can't stand it anymore! I'm going to bed. If Sarah comes back on, it'll be on you tube tomorrow.
buh-bye y'all

276 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:26pm

re: #271 Inquisitive

I don't think I can take much more of this...even to see Sarah.

When the going gets tough...

277 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:26pm

re: #260 Palandine

Can't rightly say. They're all gone, though.

With the other possibilities being...? (If you don't mind saying)

278 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:38pm

Hell Suze Orman sp bugs the hell out of me and they can't even turn a joke on her thats funny.

279 crown_of_feathers  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:39pm

re: #255 Cattt

"So - SNL. I liked the part with Gov. Palin. So far, the rest has been unbearable"

I don't think I've seen anything from SNL in decades.

Watched that first skit with Brolin preparing to propose. Sad. Extremely sad. Won't someone tell Lorne Michaels that, after 40 years, SNL euthanasia is the most humanitarian thing to do?

280 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:43pm

re: #130 Sparkizzy

Do I laugh or cry? [Link: kotaku.com...]

Crap! I don't do video games, period. Never have, probably never will. But if I ever bought a game, or a DVD of a movie, and found an ad like that in there, in fact, an ad of any kind, I'd be taking the product back to the store for insertion in the manager's nether regions.

281 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:56:45pm

re: #254 realwest

Hey {newsjunkie_ky} whatcha doing in the office so late, hmmm?!


Home office, like anyone would hire me.
How are you this Saturday evening?

282 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:57:18pm

Yawwwnnn...

283 USCMSNE  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:57:27pm

re: #238 sandspur

Mad TV is usually funnier. It takes comedy to a whole 'notha level

I just recently searched for old episodes of The State. That show was one of the better ones.

284 Ojoe  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:58:03pm

'Small criminals, they're so cute'

—Ayers.

'you have seared me'

—0bama

285 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:58:19pm

Trainwreck. They'll cram SP into the last 10 min, I bet.

286 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:58:28pm

re: #272 Cattt
Well sure they do, Cattt - he reinforces their world view, so they give him MORE money to piss away, cause it makes them feel good when they see the movie!
And, afterall, Hollyweird isn't really giving Stone their own money - it's all corporate owned now, and it's easier to give a putz like stone someone else's money!

287 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:59:08pm

re: #285 esch

Trainwreck. They'll cram SP into the last 10 min, I bet.

I'm sure hoping that opening bit wasn't the extent of it... talk about a snub.

288 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:59:27pm

This would be good news except that Brunner held it off long enough to keep observers at bay throughout the same day register/vote fiasco. She forbid it the entire week.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — The Ohio Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that outside observers must be allowed at locations were voters are casting ballots early.

The decision reverses Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's position, 10TV News reported. Brunner argued that she was not opposed to having observers present during the early in-person voting, but that Ohio law did not provide for them.

289 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:59:29pm

Good...finally a commercial! !

290 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 8:59:51pm

On the Tivo description of the SNL program tonight, no mention is made of Sarah.

291 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:00:21pm

There used to be people with, you know, talent on this show... these people are all pretenders and the writers suck.

292 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:00:36pm

re: #277 Occasional Reader
HEY O.R. -IF he says they were all stolen then they were all stolen, ok?!
I mean geez - if Obama pulls off an upset and wins and they all come looking for that beauty of a .45 you just purchased, whatcha gonna do, GIVE IT TO 'EM?!

293 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:00:46pm

Friday box office results
1) Max Payne 7,100,000
2) W 3,600,000
3) Secret Life of Bees 3,100,000

nothing very huge for W, and still time for the Bee movie to overtake W.

294 Yishai  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:00:46pm

It must have been seared, seared in his memory.

295 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:01:03pm

re: #277 Occasional Reader

With the other possibilities being...? (If you don't mind saying)

Might have fallen into a lake while I was canoeing.
May have been raptured.
May have fallen through a wormhole and turned up on Cardassia IV.

Either way, they're all gone. Hell of a thing.

296 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:01:35pm

re: #264 jacksontn

Todd Palin in PA ... watch to the end ... You go girl ...

found on Hillbuzz

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That was great. I loved the former Hillary supporter. I did the same thing and one reason I will never get married again.
And, Todd Palin is great. I want him to be American's 'First Dude'.

297 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:01:38pm

'Scuse me for butting in with this, not having been following the threads---but I see Zogby has McCain continuing to close the gap a bit.

[Link: www.zogby.com...]

298 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:02:00pm

re: #278 Metal Man

Hell Suze Orman sp bugs the hell out of me and they can't even turn a joke on her thats funny.

I'm a Dave Ramsey girl. Suze Orman worships at the altar of the FICO score.

Debt is dumb.
Cash is king.

299 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:02:13pm

re: #270 Ojoe

If you smash a cathode ray type TV it will implode.

(The picture tube is evacuated.)

I have a flatscreen - I just never watch stuff like THIS on it.

300 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:02:14pm

re: #126 wong fei hung

Has this Sorosian puppet ever uttered a sentence that DIDN'T include the word hope?

-WFH

"Spread the wealth around."

301 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:02:18pm

How many million people do you think turned the channel already?

302 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:02:21pm

But wait, there's more . . .

Evidence Mounts: Ayers Co-Wrote Obama's Dreams

Evidence continues to mount that Barack Obama had substantial help from Bill Ayers in the creation of his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, a book that Time Magazine has called "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician." The evidence falls into five general categories, here summarized.

The discovery of new matching nautical metaphors from both Ayers and Obama that almost assuredly came from the same source: Ayers, a former merchant seaman.

The discovery of a Bill Ayers' essay on memoir writing, whose postmodern themes and phrases are echoed throughout Dreams.
A newly discovered book chapter from 1990 that shows clearly and painfully the limits of Obama's prose style the year he received a contract to write Dreams.

The revelation by radical Islamicist Rashid Khalidi that Ayers made his "dining room table" available for neighborhood writers who needed help.

A refined timeline that shows Ayers had the means, the motive and the time to help Obama when he needed it most.

/17 days left to make it stick

303 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:02:28pm

G' Night All!

304 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:03:01pm

re: #281 newsjunkie_ky
Hey, if I had a company I'd hire you! You're very smart and very astute and pleasant to boot!
And I'm doing ok, thanks. Just took the penultimate med for the night!

305 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:03:33pm

in 1997 Obama was a juvenile criminal given is maturity today.

306 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:03:52pm

Springsteen. How apropos.

307 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:04:16pm

The weird thing - I don't get anything. These are the jokes, right?

I don't get ANYTHING on this show.

308 crown_of_feathers  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:04:40pm

re: #287 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

"I'm sure hoping that opening bit wasn't the extent of it... talk about a snub."

Who gives a crap? What are the rating these days on that stinking pile of pseudo-humor?

SNL is just another arm of the Entertainment-MSM-Academic-Leftist complex (cf the "military-industrial complex" hated by the Left).

309 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:01pm

re: #297 Moe Katz
Yes Zogby does and what I especially like is that while McCain seems to be going up, albeit slowly but steadily, Obama seems to have been going down at a faster rate over the last three days.

310 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:11pm

I never quit. I sat down to watch this POS, I'm staying to the bitter end.

/that way I'll know the context of what they did to SP when the MSM tries to BS me in the morning.

311 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:14pm

re: #302 Killian Bundy

I'd like to see the "book chapter from 1990" just on its own merits--there's so little that Obama wrote (besides his two autobiographies) that's available for public scrutiny.

312 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:15pm

re: #302 Killian Bundy

a book that Time Magazine has called "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."

LOL. I tried to read it a few months back; it reads like a computer stuck a bunch of moonbat talking points together in something resembling coherent fashion. No personality whatsoever.

FWIW, Audacity is the same way. So if you ever need a cure for insomnia...

313 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:22pm

Oh Lord this is boring the crap outta me.
Anyone want a beverage? I got a pitcher of bloody caesars and a fridge full of Moosehead.

314 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:38pm

Josh Brolin should be embarrassed. Sarah so far has executed comedy better and I'll assume shot down 10 ideas that sucked from the writers before the got to what we saw. When a Mother/Mayor/Governor can come in and do your job better than you that's a hint to take up a new profession. Nepotism is alive and well in Hollywood.

315 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:39pm

This MacGruber stuff is gross.

316 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:05:45pm

The MSM is to Obama as the jury was to OJ Simpson in his first trial: No matter how much damning evidence is brought to light, it will be ignored.

317 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:06:11pm

re: #315 Irene NYC

This MacGruber stuff is gross.

Beyond gross.

318 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:06:25pm

re: #297 Moe Katz

Pretty grim. McCain as a GOP insists upon running the worst campaign possible. He seemed honestly surprised that he is hated by the media. Fool.

319 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:06:32pm

re: #296 newsjunkie_ky

That was great. I loved the former Hillary supporter. I did the same thing and one reason I will never get married again.
And, Todd Palin is great. I want him to be American's 'First Dude'.

When the reporter asked her for her reaction to those who would say that she's a "sour grapes Hillary Clinton supporter" who basically won't get with the program and support Obama, Mary Davis answered "The last man who told me to get in line - I divorced him. I'm supporting John McCain because of the issues."

Mary is a middle aged black lady who is a PUMA. Heh!

320 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:06:34pm

SNL needs to hire McCain's writers

321 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:06:38pm

re: #304 realwest
Oh, you so sweet.

322 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:06:44pm

re: #309 realwest

Yes Zogby does and what I especially like is that while McCain seems to be going up, albeit slowly but steadily, Obama seems to have been going down at a faster rate over the last three days.

These trends at least put the lie to the 'Republican ticket in free fall' spin we keep getting from the media.

323 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:07:18pm

re: #313 sparrowlake

Oh Lord this is boring the crap outta me.
Anyone want a beverage? I got a pitcher of bloody caesars and a fridge full of Moosehead.

A triple ...PLEASE

324 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:07:50pm

stick a fork in SNL. its over.
i haven't watched for several, but my god how dull and unfunny.
you feel relief when the commercials come on.

325 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:08:04pm

re: #318 pat

Pretty grim. McCain as a GOP insists upon running the worst campaign possible. He seemed honestly surprised that he is hated by the media. Fool.

It really doesn't look that grim to me. Sharmuta sent me these little pills, you see...

326 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:08:48pm

re: #324 alien_mind

stick a fork in SNL. its over.
i haven't watched for several, but my god how dull and unfunny.
you feel relief when the commercials come on.

It sucks... but it frees me from any desire to suffer through it again for another 30 years.

327 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:08:52pm

re: #315 Irene NYC

This MacGruber stuff is gross.

This is bad...really really bad...do they honestly think this stuff is funny?

328 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:09:23pm

re: #313 sparrowlake

Oh Lord this is boring the crap outta me.
Anyone want a beverage? I got a pitcher of bloody caesars and a fridge full of Moosehead.

i'll take a couple of mooseheads in honor of Sarah.

329 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:09:30pm

re: #292 realwest

HEY O.R. -IF he says they were all stolen then they were all stolen, ok?!
I mean geez - if Obama pulls off an upset and wins and they all come looking for that beauty of a .45 you just purchased, whatcha gonna do, GIVE IT TO 'EM?!

Ah.

Sorry, I'm a little slow tonight. Kind of distracted with doing other stuff.

And hey, if Obama tries to take away my new Kimber, I'll get Joe Biden to defend me with his Beretta shotgun!

330 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:09:34pm

re: #310 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

This will probably be their best night and they're blowing it. Somethings up.
I'll be he to the bitter end too. Clinging to my sanity.

Well at least the music aint to sucky.

331 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:09:36pm

re: #319 Intrepid

When the reporter asked her for her reaction to those who would say that she's a "sour grapes Hillary Clinton supporter" who basically won't get with the program and support Obama, Mary Davis answered "The last man who told me to get in line - I divorced him. I'm supporting John McCain because of the issues."

Mary is a middle aged black lady who is a PUMA. Heh!


Now she is a Maverick!

332 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:09:49pm

Making fun of mullet-heads.

Wow. How daring and progressive and timely.

SNL...FAIL

333 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:06pm

No wonder Libs are angry all the time... if they think this is "funny" or "well done".

334 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:07pm

re: #219 Random_Lizard

Why is Sarah Palin putting in an appearance on SNL? Especially when it is being hosted by someone promoting yet another anti-US movie to be distributed abroad?

In the words of a Hollywood press agent: "any publicity is good publicity."

Presumably the SNL audience demographic is heavily pro-Obama. By agreeing to appear on the show, she shows she has more than her fair share of guts, and maybe a few of the Obots in the audience will discover that she does not in fact have horns, hooves or fangs.

335 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:08pm

re: #298 Palandine

Have you or are you ready to call Dave yet? I'm getting there but with kids in college not quite there.

336 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:24pm

re: #324 alien_mind

stick a fork in SNL. its over.
i haven't watched for several, but my god how dull and unfunny.
you feel relief when the commercials come on.

They are laying in wood. They are nearly done, like all of NBC. Tina Fey ironically enough is the last talent they've dug that actually moved on.

337 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:30pm

Hmmm, don't know her. Decent voice though. Adell?

338 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:32pm

Barack Obama lines up a cabinet of stars as John McCain struggles on

A host of well-known figures, including some Republicans, have indicated they would be willing to serve in some capacity as Obama begins to acquire a winner’s glow. From Senator John Kerry, the 2004 presidential candidate with hopes of becoming secretary of state, to Larry Summers, a former US Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton, and Chuck Hagel, the Republican senator who has been tipped as defence secretary, there are plenty who have signalled their availability.

/could we possibly be any more [expletive deleted]?

339 mattm  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:32pm

And we go to Game 7...

340 hermeneutics  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:53pm

I just sent the image and link to Drudge, Zombie. I'm pretty sure he'll read my mail but have no idea what he'll do with it.

My best to you.

341 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:58pm

re: #339 mattm

And we go to Game 7...

What was the score?

342 pianogirl  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:58pm

I just turned on the VCR to tape the rest of SNL...I've been reminded why I haven't watched this show in years. I'll catch up in the morning to see if Sarah is on again. Tina Fey does a darn poor imitation of the Gov., and she's not nearly as pretty!

343 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:10:59pm

re: #329 Occasional Reader

I would feel jealous about you having that new Kimber, if I didn't also know that very soon it will be the victim of an unfortunate theft.

344 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:09pm

OK - I get it

Good part with Sarah.
Painful monolgue with guest host.
Inexplicable "comedy" skit.
Commercial.
Commercial.
Inexplicable "comedy" skit.
Commercial.
Commercial.
Commercial.
Commercial.
Fat lady singing - is it over? Actually, I like her - what is her name?

345 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:10pm

re: #323 Inquisitive

A triple ...PLEASE

Coming right up!

346 Geepers  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:16pm

ciaospirit (#150),

I have video on my site of Obama supporters shouting at and heckling McCain supporters as they left a rally at Capital University. The McCain supporters did nothing to provoke it and did not intimidate the Obamatrons.

From your video:

We want jobs not your war. We want jobs not your war.

Um, maybe if you were out looking for a job instead of standing around chanting in the street you'd get your wish.

Or it that too obvious?

347 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:30pm

re: #330 x-wing

This will probably be their best night and they're blowing it. Somethings up.
I'll be he to the bitter end too. Clinging to my sanity.

Well at least the music aint to sucky.

*High Five*

/somebody has to be here to put the chairs on the tables and turn off the lights.

348 galvani  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:32pm

re: #327 Inquisitive

This is bad...really really bad...do they honestly think this stuff is funny?

I think it's a form of conditioning. Their writers think it's funny in the same way that the MSM believes it has no bias. The power of self-delusion knows no bounds.

349 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:36pm

re: #334 Alberta Oil Peon

In the words of a Hollywood press agent: "any publicity is good publicity."

Presumably the SNL audience demographic is heavily pro-Obama. By agreeing to appear on the show, she shows she has more than her fair share of guts, and maybe a few of the Obots in the audience will discover that she does not in fact have horns, hooves or fangs.

I think the plan is the coverage this will get on the news this week

350 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:40pm

re: #324 alien_mind

stick a fork in SNL. its over.
i haven't watched for several, but my god how dull and unfunny.
you feel relief when the commercials come on.

Yeah, it is just not funny anymore. Good thing Terminator 2 is on AMC. Now THAT is a movie.

351 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:57pm

re: #338 Killian Bundy

Those are the stars?

Who are the duds then ?

352 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:11:59pm

re: #333 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

No wonder Libs are angry all the time... if they think this is "funny" or "well done".

LOL! That is why Me-chelle is the way she is. She is the true bitter-clinger.

353 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:12:19pm

Okay, SNL has already been on for 40 minutes and there hasn't been one even half-way decent skit.

SNL is starting to suck big time.

354 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:12:28pm

re: #328 alien_mind

i'll take a couple of mooseheads in honor of Sarah.

You got it, Pontiac.

355 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:12:34pm

re: #338 Killian Bundy

Barack Obama lines up a cabinet of stars as John McCain struggles on

A host of well-known figures, including some Republicans, have indicated they would be willing to serve in some capacity as Obama begins to acquire a winner’s glow. From Senator John Kerry, the 2004 presidential candidate with hopes of becoming secretary of state, to Larry Summers, a former US Treasury secretary under President Bill Clinton, and Chuck Hagel, the Republican senator who has been tipped as defence secretary, there are plenty who have signalled their availability.

/could we possibly be any more [expletive deleted]?

Gore as Secretary of the Internet?

356 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:12:47pm

Singer was ok.

Back to the inexplicable comedy, after a zillion commercials.

357 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:12:58pm

re: #322 Moe Katz Yep. And iirc - earlier this evening on the More Soros-Obama Connections thread, another LGFer who's name I can't recall, said that IBD - which has apparetntly had accurate polls the last three presidential elections, had McCain down by 3. Within the margin of error.
We may have to push him or drag him across the finish line first, but cross the finish line first he will.

358 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:13:34pm

re: #357 realwest

We may have to push him or drag him across the finish line first, but cross the finish line first he will.

You betcha doggonnit.

359 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:01pm

re: #335 Metal Man

Have you or are you ready to call Dave yet? I'm getting there but with kids in college not quite there.

Iiii'mmm debttt freee!
Well, not yet.
No credit debt
Paying 200 a month extra on the car to pay it off a year early to prepare myself for possible crippling tax increases (nope, don't make 250k a year, but if God forbid Obama wins, he can't suck all the revenues he needs out of 5% of the population--all tax payers will be required to redistribute)
I rent; saving up for 20% down payment.

Ramsey's a pretty wise guy.

360 Random_Lizard  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:08pm

#327

I think the writers are seriously on drugs when they write the show. It seems funny when they are stoned, or high on something else.

361 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:22pm

re: #343 mama winger

I would feel jealous about you having that new Kimber, if I didn't also know that very soon it will be the victim of an unfortunate theft.

I saw him running away with my gun... he was a blonde Chinese guy, with three nipples.

362 El Lizardo mejicano  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:23pm

re: #302 Killian Bundy

But wait, there's more . . .

Evidence Mounts: Ayers Co-Wrote Obama's Dreams

/17 days left to make it stick

Wait a minute! "that one" was a great writer long time ago..when he sounded like he was only 8 years old...

Under water grottos, caverns

Filled with apes

That eat figs.

Stepping on the figs

That the apes

Eat, they crunch.

The apes howl, bare

Their fangs, dance . . .

363 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:23pm

I'm starting to suspect that, just as McCain was on Letterman to give Letterman's ratings a boost, SNL probably agreed to Sarah coming on to help their ratings.

Oh, and look 30 Rock is going to have Oooprah.

364 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:27pm

re: #342 pianogirl

I just turned on the VCR to tape the rest of SNL...I've been reminded why I haven't watched this show in years. I'll catch up in the morning to see if Sarah is on again. Tina Fey does a darn poor imitation of the Gov., and she's not nearly as pretty!

You are so right, and seeing them side by side you see how truly beautiful Sarah is and lame tina is.

365 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:29pm

re: #353 Irene NYC

Okay, SNL has already been on for 40 minutes and there hasn't been one even half-way decent skit.

SNL is starting to suck big time.

Did not see it. Was this the Palin show? How did they ramboozle her?

366 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:14:40pm

re: #355 JohnAdams

When McCain/Palin win, Europe may stroke out. I hope it's televised, because I want to watch.

367 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:11pm

re: #365 JohnAdams

Did not see it. Was this the Palin show? How did they ramboozle her?

She's barely been on.

368 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:13pm

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369 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:15pm

re: #353 Irene NYC

Okay, SNL has already been on for 40 minutes and there hasn't been one even half-way decent skit.

SNL is starting to suck big time.

I believe that started around 1980.

370 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:22pm

re: #351 mama winger

Those are the stars?

Who are the duds then ?

/I don't know about you, but just the thought of John Kerry as Secretary of State and Chuck Hagel as Secretary of Defense scares the [expletive deleted] out of me

371 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:27pm

re: #329 Occasional Reader
Biden owns a Beretta shotgun?! I didn't realize he had such good taste that he'd need one living in that compound of his!

372 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:32pm

re: #361 Occasional Reader

I saw him running away with my gun... he was a blonde Chinese guy, with three nipples.

That was me, and I have 5.

373 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:15:59pm

re: #357 realwest

Yep. And iirc - earlier this evening on the More Soros-Obama Connections thread, another LGFer who's name I can't recall, said that IBD - which has apparetntly had accurate polls the last three presidential elections, had McCain down by 3. Within the margin of error.
We may have to push him or drag him across the finish line first, but cross the finish line first he will.

It ain't over till it's over, as Mr. Berra said.

374 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:13pm

re: #345 sparrowlake

Coming right up!

Ah...THANKS...now I think I can make it to the end of this garbage...and in Sarah's words...NEVER AGAIN! ! !

375 Steffan  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:20pm

re: #1 zombie

Zombie, I just sent the link to Drudge, and I left a comment on your site.

Hope it helps derail The One. A Marxist in the WH is the last thing we need.

376 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:23pm

God, even the news thing is not funny.

377 The Archivist  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:27pm

#9 Dark Falcon, said:
"Zombie, I live in Illinois, but how do you dig dirt? I'm not asking for advanced lessons, just for a few pointers to start out."

One researcher that I knew would take various statements and claims ["If he said X, then there should be Y"], and then he'd go check out "Y" to see if he proved out.
You said you live in Illinois. Here's one for you [unless someone has already done the digging on this]: Looking at linked page in the "shared office building" post earlier today, there is mention that Obama in 2002 either lost his law license or otherwise was unable to continue practicing law beginning that year. Why? State bar records should be public and should indicate the reason. I haven't myself seen any mention of that yet.

378 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:40pm

Wow, Weekend Update is AWFUL.

379 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:43pm

I wonder what the NEA and the AFT think about Williams Ayers' thoughts about the big "factory" schools. This from page 4 of "A Simple Justice..." I had to type it, no cut and paste. This is dripping with anti-teacher union rhetoric. I almost wonder if William Ayers is so far left that he's far right.

"Here is where we can powerfully engage the question of small schools and the struggle to rescue education from its entanglements and its burdens. Bigness in schools was and is deliberate, originally a policy response to the stated needs of the captains of industries, the builders of factories. Big schools tend to be mechanist and managerial, hierarchical and bureaucratic. Everyone does the same tasks in the same way like miniaturized factory workers or little soldiers. While all kids are different, in big schools those differences usually make no difference; youngsters and their teachers are treated as if they are interchangeable, even expendable. Big comprehensive competitive schools worked for some and failed for many others. Too many students, alienated from schools, disconnected from education.

380 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:16:54pm

re: #347 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

*High Five*

/somebody has to be here to put the chairs on the tables and turn off the lights.

Looky what I found.. is that a keg on ice. ;>}

381 rayamehemna  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:17:36pm

This is not the Bill Ayers he knew!

382 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:07pm

re: #380 x-wing

Looky what I found.. is that a keg on ice. ;>}

...and magic glasses, right here on the bar!

383 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:26pm

*burrrp*

384 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:28pm

Are they always this awful, or are they doing it on purpose?

I'm confused. Random people are funnier than this.

385 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:31pm

re: #379 mich-again

The Chicago Public Schools are so unbelievably F*d up, the teachers themselves probably can't even read what Ayers wrote.

386 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:42pm

OMG SNL owes me 40 minutes of my life back

387 willpowwow  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:55pm

What is the point of this post? There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good? Was Obama's description accurate?

And what is that rude reference to Obama's wife in post 352 - 'Me-chelle' ? Is that some kind of schoolyard taunt? Is that the level of discussion on this site? Reading things like that, I would think the people who post on here are no different than that fellow with the toy monkey at the McCain rally in PA.

Oh, ha, ha, let's call each other names and be real witty! While the fate of the United States of America hangs in the balance.

388 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:18:55pm

re: #338 Killian Bundy
Uh, Killian, that can't be right! I mean Obama says he's for Hope and CHANGE. What change? I mean it's sorta like his campaign committee - ALL old Carter or Clinton hands, all "beltway insiders" giving him advice.
So where the hell is the CHANGE?!

389 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:14pm

re: #270 Ojoe

If you smash a cathode ray type TV it will implode.

(The picture tube is evacuated.)

Yep, but all the little jagged shards of glass don't fly to the geometric center of the vacuum and come to a full stop. Quite the contrary, they will fly right through the center and exit the other side at a pretty fair clip, barring those few that meet a like-sized fragment head-on.

I used to shoot my fair share of TV sets at the dump with a .22 back in the day, and believe me, they can scatter glass shards for 3 or 4 yards easily. Not something you want to experience up close and personal!

390 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:20pm

re: #386 ACJohn

OMG SNL owes me 40 minutes of my life back

PAIN IS THE CLEANSER!

391 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:22pm

Imissed the name, who's this ass-hole supposed to be?

392 JSK1121  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:32pm

re: #369 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I believe that started around 1980.

No, no, the Mike Myers, Dana Carvey, Lovitz, Hartman, Farley, Spade and Nealon years were very good. Those, however, ended in 1995 or so.

393 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:36pm

re: #384 Cattt

Are they always this awful, or are they doing it on purpose?

I'm confused. Random people are funnier than this.

Cattt, your comment on Europe had me in stitches. Although I wouldn't call you 'random'.

394 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:37pm

re: #371 realwest

Biden owns a Beretta shotgun?! I didn't realize he had such good taste that he'd need one living in that compound of his!

Yep, and he kinda sorta, um... threatened his own running mate about it. In yet another bizarre, and bizarrely under-reported, Biden Moment.

395 Jihad Worrier  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:48pm

Did you all catch this one?

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

396 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:19:58pm

re: #325 Moe Katz

It really doesn't look that grim to me. Sharmuta sent me these little pills, you see...

LOL. And we must give Dems the polls advantage. Most polls are designed to favor Dems.
What worries me as that many people seem to wish to abandon capitalism, not realizing that the current crises was caused by Democratic social engineering at the expense of our savings and investments. I know very hard working people that are convinced that they will still be wealthy because someone else will be taxed, because they will have cheaper electricity, because farmers will be forced to grow bread, steaks, and seafood at cheap prices. Because they will be unaffected because pollution will be in other countries. That religion is not necessary and if the Muslims are so concerned, surely they can deal with matters in their own region before they come for us. If only we could be Canada.

397 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:20:19pm

re: #391 x-wing

Imissed the name, who's this ass-hole supposed to be?

I think it's just a random shot at the mentally impaired.

398 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:20:53pm

SNL is about as funny as a turd in a bathtub. Now I remember why I haven't watched it in over a decade.

399 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:20:56pm

re: #387 willpowwow

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good? Was Obama's description accurate?

You haven't been paying attention then. There has been considerable discussion on the fact that this book promotes a get-out-of-jail-scot-free-just-like-me agenda.

I guess you would actually have to read it to get that tho.

400 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:06pm

re: #391 x-wing

Imissed the name, who's this ass-hole supposed to be?

Dunno, but his middle name was "Boo"...

401 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:23pm

The left is going to go batshit insane when McCain wins.

402 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:28pm

re: #387 willpowwow

buh-bye then

403 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:30pm

Uh, I haven't said this before because I don't want to, perhaps, insult a number of fine LGFer's but this constant complaining about SNL sounds like a bunch of middle aged folks (or older) who just aren't hip or kewl, ya know?
To the younger among us, SNL is screamingly hilarious.
You folks are just sorta outta touch with the kids today.
And, sadly, lots of those kids may in fact - gulp - vote!

404 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:34pm

re: #387 willpowwow

Who the he11 left the door open and let this thing wander in?

405 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:50pm

The blonde needs a touch-up. Not that it's any of my beeswax.

406 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:21:54pm

Oh GAAAWWWDDD this show reeks out loud.
*glub, glub, glub, glub*

407 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:22:15pm

This has to be sabotage, weekend up-date is usually funny. And this aint funny.

408 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:22:20pm

re: #387 willpowwow

'Me-chelle' ? Is that some kind of schoolyard taunt?

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with Paul McCartney as well...

is this the best you've got?

409 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:22:23pm

re: #376 Cattt

I have a great story for you. Check top links for Crime. Cat story.

410 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:22:37pm

Excruciating. What the heck happened to her hair? Yikes.

411 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:23:15pm

re: #359 Palandine

The biggest lesson Dave teaches is postponed gratification. The things I buy now are way sweeter. The other thing it's done is get me back to fixing my own cars. The daughters are way more impressed when the see how long the Old man spends keeping their cars running than when I just write a check.

412 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:23:29pm

re: #387 willpowwow

Great first post though.

/

413 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:23:42pm

re: #387 willpowwow

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good?

I read the first few pages from the viewer at Amazon and its pretty clear Ayers wants local small schools to replace the current education "industry". And with all the anti-Union speak in just those first few pages, it sure sounds like he's got no love at all for H's biggest supporters, the teacher Unions.

414 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:23:52pm

re: #387 willpowwow

Lighten up. You have no idea how much time and money posters here have given in the last six months or more trying to save our country. It's plenty.

415 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:24:27pm

re: #395 Jihad Worrier

Did you all catch this one?

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

the neighborhood from hell.

416 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:24:37pm

re: #414 ciaospirit

Lighten up. You have no idea how much time and money posters here have given in the last six months or more trying to save our country. It's plenty.

Besides. Any thread past 150 comments on a Saturday Night is fair game for just about anything.

417 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:24:51pm

re: #387 willpowwow

What is the point of this post? There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good? Was Obama's description accurate?

And what is that rude reference to Obama's wife in post 352 - 'Me-chelle' ? Is that some kind of schoolyard taunt? Is that the level of discussion on this site? Reading things like that, I would think the people who post on here are no different than that fellow with the toy monkey at the McCain rally in PA.

Oh, ha, ha, let's call each other names and be real witty! While the fate of the United States of America hangs in the balance.

Wow! That post was awesome! You hit it out of the park!

Quick question - as a community organizer what was Obama's best accomplishment? State senator?

418 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:03pm

Finally... more SP!

419 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:04pm

re: #358 mama winger
Ah, hiya {mama} - how are you doing tonight?

420 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:17pm

re: #403 realwest

Uh, I haven't said this before because I don't want to, perhaps, insult a number of fine LGFer's but this constant complaining about SNL sounds like a bunch of middle aged folks (or older) who just aren't hip or kewl, ya know?
To the younger among us, SNL is screamingly hilarious.
You folks are just sorta outta touch with the kids today.
And, sadly, lots of those kids may in fact - gulp - vote!

I for one will admit I am a middle aged folk...and right now I am feeling very sorry for our Kids...LOL...I didn't know they were being tortured like this!

421 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:18pm

re: #403 realwest

No disrespect but did you forget the sarc tag? Hell the audience isn't even laughing

SHE ON PALIN

422 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:19pm

Sarah's on.

423 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:21pm

Go Sarah!

424 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:32pm
Oh, these are the people in your neighborhood,
In your neighborhood,
In your neigh-bor-hood,
Yes, these are the people in your neighborhood,
They’re the people that you meet,
When you’re walking down the street,
They’re the people that you meet…each…day!
425 big L  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:25:51pm

170-slart... Mark Levin covered the "clinging, bitter to guns and religion on his radio show. Michelle O the terror, included a reference to similar phrasing from saul Alinsky's book. You can listen on the net: marklevinshow.com
His show is there to replay for free. 10.14.08
Very interesting to see what these entities are up to.

426 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:26:19pm

re: #419 realwest

Ah, hiya {mama} - how are you doing tonight?

I'm mystified as to why I am up so late.

what the heck - I haven't seen 11:30 PM since I was 36.

427 Killian Bundy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:26:20pm

Behold the newest political statement.

/17 more days to be a plumber

428 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:26:35pm

What the FUCK

429 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:26:49pm

re: #387 willpowwow

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good? Obama's description accurate?

Yeah, that's the really important question, isn't it. Is the book any good? Not, you know, whether a candidate for President of the United States has LIED about his relationship with a terrorist, or anything.

Asshat.

430 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:26:52pm

WTF?

431 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:26:54pm

re: #403 realwest

Actually, my son is 18 and he and his friends find SNL ridiculous. He says it's like a bunch of not-funny older people trying to act like college students and be cool. LOL

He and I both liked the skit about the bailout that was posted here recently, but we've watched some other ones and neither one of us laughed at all. It was literally painful to watch them try and be funny. :/

432 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:13pm

re: #427 Killian Bundy

Behold the newest political statement.

/17 more days to be a plumber

I am sooo gonna do that on the Malibu.

433 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:15pm

All the plumbers in the house, put your hands up!

434 Random_Lizard  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:17pm

Could Sarah Palin have REALLY gone off script, and chided Amy, Seth and the writers for being biased? Could she have just refused to do this?


Why Sarah Why?

435 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:20pm

What crap, unreal

436 USCMSNE  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:25pm

That moose just bit it...

437 Geepers  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:26pm

willpowwow says:

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book

So who's stopping you? Discuss away.

438 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:51pm

re: #428 esch

What the FUCK

re: #430 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

WTF?

Some of us aren't watching. Please type more.

439 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:27:51pm

re: #387 willpowwow

What is the point of this post?

Shirley you jest.

440 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:28:03pm

Wow... that was it. Why did she bother?

441 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:28:04pm

re: #428 esch

What the FUCK

Um... care to elaborate?

442 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:28:09pm

re: #439 solomonpanting

What is the point of this post?

Shirley you jest.

Don't call her Shirley.

443 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:28:57pm

re: #440 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Wow... that was it. Why did she bother?

SNL's got 1/2 hour to go yet.

444 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:29:15pm

For Fucks Sake. That's it. Is this show 90 min. anymore, or is it about over?

445 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:29:17pm

re: #442 mama winger

Don't call her Shirley.

Oh, Kay.

446 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:29:33pm

Could someone fill us non-watchers in as to what Palin just did on SNL?

447 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:29:49pm

re: #438 Racer X

Some of us aren't watching. Please type more.

Well... Sarah sits at the newsdesk says she doesn't want to do the bit they planned, talks another woman into doing it, and she launches into a rap song.

448 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:29:53pm

is this where all the cool old people hang out on Saturday night? I've never been up this late so I am kinda out of the loop when it comes to coolness.

449 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:29:54pm

And Sarah's got rhythm! She is the total package.

450 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:30:05pm

re: #387 willpowwow

Wow wow wow. Chill, Will.

451 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:30:09pm

re: #11 notutopia

Zombie, Done. Sent to Martha McCallum, Reporter, Fox Front Desk

452 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:30:10pm

re: #363 Irene NYC
Hey Irene! Hope you're doing well tonight! BTW, one of the BIGGEST LOSERS around when Obama loses to McCain is gonna be Oprah. IIRC her ratings are already down and pretty much have been for the time period following his clinching the Dem Nomination. It's not that folks begrudge her choosing him (she is, after all, a daytime talk show host who happens to be FABULOUSLY WEALTHY) it's the way she did it and refused to allow ANY OTHER candidates for office appear on her show that has a lot of folks pissed off at her.

453 Kilroy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:30:24pm

My grandparents came here about 100 year ago from eastern Europe.Obama wasn't even born here! Where am I to go as this becomes the next Rhodesia?

454 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:30:58pm

re: #452 realwest

Oprah thinks Obama is the Messiah and She is God the Father.

455 Steffan  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:31:02pm

re: #217 ACJohn

"It depends on what your definition of neighborhood is" Obama

Michelle Malkin has a shot of one of the pages of the book. Ayres describes his righteously upper-class neighborhood, and specifically mentions Obama and Calypso Louie Farrakhan, who lived "a block away."

Incidentally...

Bill Ayers and Barack Obama shared an office. Ayers’ Small Schools Workshop, the one Obama directed all that money too is located at 115 S. Sangamon Street, Chicago, Illinois 60607 [Note the link is to a year 2000 version of their website].

Obama had an office on the same floor. Think they might have occasionally had lunch together?

456 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:31:35pm

re: #379 mich-again

I wonder what the NEA and the AFT think about Williams Ayers' thoughts about the big "factory" schools. This from page 4 of "A Simple Justice..." I had to type it, no cut and paste. This is dripping with anti-teacher union rhetoric. I almost wonder if William Ayers is so far left that he's far right.

Bernadine and ACORN are connected through Small Schools ...is there anyone on the radical left that are not connected to ACORN?

457 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:31:55pm

I dunno, I think it's kind of funny, and Sarah's rocking out.

And I think it was written that way.

458 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:31:56pm

re: #403 realwest

Uh, I haven't said this before because I don't want to, perhaps, insult a number of fine LGFer's but this constant complaining about SNL sounds like a bunch of middle aged folks (or older) who just aren't hip or kewl, ya know?
To the younger among us, SNL is screamingly hilarious.
You folks are just sorta outta touch with the kids today.
And, sadly, lots of those kids may in fact - gulp - vote!


that's not it really. i've watched the show from the beginning up until the point when it became too lame to watch. it has had ups and downs, and often it was really funny and relavent. it is only a shadow of its former self. screamingly funny? i don't see it.

459 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:31:58pm

oh what a tangled web we weave

460 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:32:05pm

re: #447 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well... Sarah sits at the newsdesk says she doesn't want to do the bit they planned, talks another woman into doing it, and she launches into a rap song.

Sounds like something Ronald Reagan would do. Or not.

I'll Tivo it to watch later (PST).

461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:32:25pm

30 more minutes...must. tough. it. out.

462 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:32:50pm

re: #453 Kilroy

My grandparents came here about 100 year ago from eastern Europe.Obama wasn't even born here! Where am I to go as this becomes the next Rhodesia?

Shirley you jest.
(Did you mean Zimbabwe?)

463 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:32:56pm

Video clips in FINRA annual tests are funnier. I am serious.

464 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:32:56pm

re: #452 realwest

Hey, real!

Saw you were very energetic this morning. I have never like Oprah.

And this "fart face" skit on SNL sucks!

465 tommygum  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:00pm

Sarah rocks!

466 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:07pm

Sarah was brilliant and beautiful and composed throughout. She projected a good-humoured, tolerant, down-to-earth image.
A real good sport. This appearance will be replayed all over the media and I predict it will help the campaign.

467 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:20pm

I don't understand why Sarah Palin wasted her time. That was really stupid.

468 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:36pm

re: #461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

30 more minutes...must. tough. it. out.

That bad, huh?

469 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:41pm

re: #441 Occasional Reader

I don't know if I can. 8P

That was the stupidest skit I have ever seen them do. Only Sarah at the desk prevented it from collapsing into a singularity of vapid suckitude and destroying us all.

Good enough?

470 Alberta Oil Peon  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:44pm

re: #387 willpowwow

What is the point of this post? There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good? Was Obama's description accurate?

And what is that rude reference to Obama's wife in post 352 - 'Me-chelle' ? Is that some kind of schoolyard taunt? Is that the level of discussion on this site? Reading things like that, I would think the people who post on here are no different than that fellow with the toy monkey at the McCain rally in PA.

Oh, ha, ha, let's call each other names and be real witty! While the fate of the United States of America hangs in the balance.

Of course the book is a turgid pile of steaming excrement; it was written by William Ayers, an unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist, and uber-left academic. As reported elsewhere in this thread, his basic thesis is that child criminals should not be jailed, not even for murder.

"Me-chelle"? I missed that one, but clearly it's a play on her extremely self-centered attitude, rivaling that of the One himself.

You haven't been here long, have you?

471 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:48pm

SNL is now down to pull my finger humor

472 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:33:55pm

The part with Sarah was ok, but it could have been way better.

473 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:04pm

re: #460 Racer X

Sounds like something Ronald Reagan would do. Or not.

I'll Tivo it to watch later (PST).

Sarah did fine. The rap song was stupid and the people doing it embarrassing.

Sarah did some "moves" sitting in her chair, but did nothing to drop her dignity.

474 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:05pm

re: #448 mama winger

is this where all the cool old people hang out on Saturday night? I've never been up this late so I am kinda out of the loop when it comes to coolness.

If by cool you mean sit around drinking lots of beer while looking at a computer screen, than yes, this is where we hang out.

475 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:15pm

re: #468 Moe Katz

That bad, huh?

A.W.F.U.L. Just A.W.F.U.L.

476 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:20pm

re: #385 mama winger
Indeed the Chicago Public Schools are messed up.
Just heard on our local news (waiting for the weather) that Mayor Daley has proposed paying students CASH MONEY if they get good grades!
No, really, that's what the local newscaster said - and we aren't even CLOSE to Chicago!

477 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:51pm

Those that question why Sarah would bother. The crowd that watches SNL wasn't going to vote for her anyways. But I'll put money on at least a couple hundred changed their minds. For me I got to see that she has the balls to go into a den of vipers and walk out victorious.

478 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:52pm

My dog is kicking me off the computer. He wants to look at kitty pr0n.

see ya's later

479 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:53pm

They didn't let Sarah do much. But Sarah lights up the stage in spite of them. She can handle anything, even the intentional back seat they gave her.

480 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:34:54pm

re: #468 Moe Katz

That bad, huh?

I don't watch broadcast TV for a reason... this sucks.

481 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:35:16pm

They've now said "Fart Face" about 253 times in 3 1/2 minutes.

Beyond toilet humor. In a lame way.

482 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:35:46pm

Minnesooota Congress Woman Michelle Bachmann on Obama and Ayers assocation. She is being interviewed by Chris Matthews and is great:
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

483 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:35:53pm

re: #409 pat

I have a great story for you. Check top links for Crime. Cat story.

I'm half way through it - excellent!.

484 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:36:36pm

re: #466 sparrowlake

Sarah was brilliant and beautiful and composed throughout. She projected a good-humoured, tolerant, down-to-earth image.
A real good sport. This appearance will be replayed all over the media and I predict it will help the campaign.

I'm hoping to see it on youtube.

485 Rancher  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:36:38pm

re: #413 mich-again

I read the first few pages from the viewer at Amazon and its pretty clear Ayers wants local small schools to replace the current education "industry". And with all the anti-Union speak in just those first few pages, it sure sounds like he's got no love at all for H's biggest supporters, the teacher Unions.

If it weren't for the money going to Ayers I might have bought it. There can be little argument that our public schools fail these kids in poor inner city communities. Wonder if he tries to hide his radical views toward education that he and Obama put into practice with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Wonder if Obama read it? Some Lizard needs to read this, a teacher or someone in juvenile justice.

486 tommygum  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:36:44pm

I hope I live long enough to see through the eight years of the Palin Administration.

487 ciaospirit  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:36:49pm

re: #481 Irene NYC

They've now said "Fart Face" about 253 times in 3 1/2 minutes.

Beyond toilet humor. In a lame way.

Pathetic, wasn't it?

488 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:37:02pm

Now it is really bad...even the commercials are terrible..."that one"

489 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:37:29pm

See it AGAIN? Are they insane?

490 Rancher  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:37:37pm

Palin's on SNL, bye.

491 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:37:58pm

re: #476 realwest

Indeed the Chicago Public Schools are messed up.
Just heard on our local news (waiting for the weather) that Mayor Daley has proposed paying students CASH MONEY if they get good grades!
No, really, that's what the local newscaster said - and we aren't even CLOSE to Chicago!

St. Louis Public Schools give students tickets to rap concerts for good attendance.

/Ah, democrat-controlled school boards, I know I love 'em

492 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:38:03pm

re: #387 willpowwow
Hmmm

Registered since: Oct 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm

No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0


I guess it's getting tight for sleepers to be able to register and wait for the precisely correct moment to strike huh? Registered for all of 11 days and you've had two comments, both today! Remarkable.

493 wolfie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:38:12pm

re: #403 realwest

Now, listen here, you little whippersnapper!
Don't you get snippy with me!

Go to your room!

494 USCMSNE  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:38:14pm

re: #484 Archimedes

I'm hoping to see it on youtube.

NBC usually pulls its videos off of youtube. You should be able to see it on nbc.com

495 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:38:24pm

Now this is embarrassing
Michelle Obama Dances With Ellen

And so is this:
Barack Obama on Ellen

496 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:01pm

re: #477 Metal Man

Those that question why Sarah would bother. The crowd that watches SNL wasn't going to vote for her anyways. But I'll put money on at least a couple hundred changed their minds. For me I got to see that she has the balls to go into a den of vipers and walk out victorious.

Agreed. She had to do it. But it still hurt to watch.

497 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:02pm

Yeah baby!

Already linked on LGF, Michelle Malkin, and Stop the ACLU, among many others.

Unleash the link-hounds!

498 bosforus  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:19pm

OT - anyone know a free program that unzips .tar files?

499 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:19pm

re: #461 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

30 more minutes...must. tough. it. out.

I found this half empty bottle of Tequila on the floor . Up for some shots?

500 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:24pm

re: #495 newsjunkie_ky

Now this is embarrassing
Michelle Obama Dances With Ellen

And so is this:
Barack Obama on Ellen

"...on Ellen?" I thought she was gay?

501 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:32pm

re: #480 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I haven't seen SNL since the days of Ackroyd, Murray and John Belushi. That was humor! This stuff I just don't get.

502 El Lizardo mejicano  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:39:58pm

It's funny that they only had the first shot of Palin at the very beginning, then the last skit, just to keep the ratings high and people waiting.

IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT, SNL SUCKED THE REST OF THE TIME..

503 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:00pm

GO ZOMBIETIME!

504 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:27pm

re: #448 mama winger

is this where all the cool old people hang out on Saturday night? I've never been up this late so I am kinda out of the loop when it comes to coolness.

When I was "cool" I was out pounding beers and listening to crappy bands. Now that I'm not cool, I'm usally asleep preparing for another day earning a few dollars, half of which I will fork over to these unrepentant miscreants who expect the gubment to sponsor them cradle to grave.

505 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:27pm

re: #394 Occasional Reader
ROTFLMAO!
Speaking of "under-reported" has anyone heard anything about how he's doing? Didn't he have a kid of his get really sick about two weeks or so ago?

506 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:39pm

This narc school skit sucks too.

507 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:42pm

re: #492 realwest

I guess it's getting tight for sleepers to be able to register and wait for the precisely correct moment to strike huh? Registered for all of 11 days and you've had two comments, both today! Remarkable.

Hiya RW!

The quality of trolls has diminished significantly. No fire. No spunk. I'm disappointed.

508 Steffan  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:46pm

re: #460 Racer X

Richard Nixon appeared on "Laugh-In" in 1968. His most famous line in that show was "Sock it to me?"

From what I've read, that appearance helped his campaign immensely.

509 jacksontn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:40:51pm

What is a good program for a Mac to download youtube?

510 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:41:02pm

re: #499 x-wing

I found this half empty bottle of Tequila on the floor . Up for some shots?

Just throw me the bottle... I'll wipe it.
re: #501 notutopia

I haven't seen SNL since the days of Ackroyd, Murray and John Belushi. That was humor! This stuff I just don't get.

You and me, both.

511 Spellcheck  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:41:22pm

Lame beyond words. Weekend Update used to be the funniest part of the show, and I'm not even smiling, let alone laughing. Sigh

"Jane, you ignorant slut" - now that was funny stuff at the time.

On a high note, I did see 2 McCain ads played during the breaks.

512 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:41:56pm

re: #507 Racer X

Hiya RW!

The quality of trolls has diminished significantly. No fire. No spunk. I'm disappointed.

It takes years of undercover work to develop into a quality troll.

These kids today don't want to put in the time.

513 Kilroy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:42:03pm

The Governor's mansion is really wet tonight in Juneau and it's surrounded by Obama signs.Hopefully if she has to return to Alaska she does the State's business from Anchorage!

514 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:42:15pm

re: #495 newsjunkie_ky

I can see it now, boom boxes in the White House.

515 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:42:24pm

re: #496 esch

Agreed. She had to do it. But it still hurt to watch.

And to those that didn't watch only bother with the opening, she only did a set up for the crappy rap thing at the news desk.

516 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:42:30pm

re: #511 Spellcheck

Lame beyond words. Weekend Update used to be the funniest part of the show, and I'm not even smiling, let alone laughing. Sigh

"Jane, you ignorant slut" - now that was funny stuff at the time.

On a high note, I did see 2 McCain ads played during the breaks.

You did? All I got was one ad for The One.

517 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:42:36pm

re: #511 Spellcheck

Lame beyond words. Weekend Update used to be the funniest part of the show, and I'm not even smiling, let alone laughing. Sigh

"Jane, you ignorant slut" - now that was funny stuff at the time.

On a high note, I did see 2 McCain ads played during the breaks.

At least you got McCain...I got "that one"

518 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:43:25pm

re: #516 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You did? All I got was one ad for The One.

Ditto here in NYC.

519 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:43:25pm

re: #516 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You did? All I got was one ad for The One.


Are you in IL?

520 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:43:37pm

re: #501 notutopia

I haven't seen SNL since the days of Ackroyd, Murray and John Belushi. That was humor! This stuff I just don't get.

No Coke! Pepsi!

521 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:43:48pm

re: #519 Inquisitive

Are you in IL?

Yup.

522 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:43:55pm

Willpowwow's excreting on a dead thread. How DARE that plebe Joe the Plumber ask Obama (Peace Be Upon Him) a question?

523 El Lizardo mejicano  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:44:08pm

That is the kind of "entertainment" most progressives like to watch.

524 sngnsgt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:44:26pm

re: #255 Cattt

With SNL's lefty bias, the whole show is abnormal as usual.

525 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:44:37pm

re: #500 Walter L. Newton
LOL
The Zero, one voter at a time.

526 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:44:47pm

re: #522 Palandine

Willpowwow's excreting on a dead thread. How DARE that plebe Joe the Plumber ask Obama (Peace Be Upon Him) a question?

One word: GAZE

527 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:45:08pm

re: #521 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Yup.

Me too...Southern IL

528 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:45:24pm

re: #387 willpowwow

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

529 Bagua  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:45:29pm

re: #486 tommygum

16 years of prosperity and security would result.

530 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:45:37pm

re: #421 x-wing
Nope didn't forget it - didn't think it was necessary!

531 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:45:37pm

re: #512 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It takes years of undercover work to develop into a quality troll.

These kids today don't want to put in the time.

We're not that hard to chat with. Heck JMV sticks with it. At least she can post a cogent thought or two.

532 galvani  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:45:43pm

This episode of SNL is truly awful. Then again, even in the really good seasons, the show was (at most) 1/3 funny and 2/3 stuff that didn't work.

533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:46:06pm

re: #527 Inquisitive

Me too...Southern IL

Ditto, I'm over by Danville.

534 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:02pm

Back when Ackroyd, Murray and Belushi were on SNL I watched it with my parents and we all thought it was funny. There is no way I could watch this crap with my kids and even pretend it was funny.

535 RememberSekhmet?  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:06pm

re: #249 alien_mind

i hope that W movies tanks and doesn't make the top ten.
Stone is a disgrace.

A Facebook friend of mine already made a fan page. :P

He's lucky he's too pretty to kill.

536 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:07pm

re: #520 Cattt

No Coke! Pepsi!

cheeseburger, chips.
no coke, pepsi.

537 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:12pm

re: #510 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Did you see the McCain video coverage of the recent affair where he roasted
Obama? Now, that was righteous HUMOR! I had to watch it two times to hear everything he said because I was laughing so hard.

538 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:35pm

re: #387 willpowwow

Oops. I forgot.

GO PISS UP A ROPE.

539 rain of lead  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:40pm

OH. MY. GOD.
SNL is sucking harder than a black hole

540 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:44pm

What's the surprise here? Of course it was a "rave" review. Ayres probably wrote it himself.

541 hazzyday  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:44pm

re: #51 arethusa

Factcheck "vetted" this review about a week ago and dismissed it.

Key quote:


I don't follow, but, hey, they're impartial!/

Factcheck is biased and wrong there. Sen. Obama in their statement is clearly implying Terrorist Ayers is a distant person to him. The truth appears to be that Ayers is closer to Sen. Obama than Sen. Obama wants to let on. Factcheck wants to imply things that make Sen. McCain wrong, but wants it's hands clean when it comes to Sen. Obama. They deliberately avoid the pressing question people want to know. They are biased by omission.

Factcheck is just falling for or influenced by lefty groupthink. Sen. Obama would like to pal around with Castro and Admadinehad without pre conditions. The broader assertion here that factcheck so gleefully avoids is the question does Sen. Obama really have any non American hating friends. They should be fact checking that.

Terrorist Ayers and wife are not people whose past we should let escape them. They are just cagier now. And want to subvert the system from the inside out. Every program they do represents that effort. They use class strife, create class strife, to exploit class strife. Sen Obama seems to be much of the same mold.

542 TXNavy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:47:45pm

Zombie -

I sent a link to Greta since she did a special tonight on the links between Ayers and Obama.

I think the special was a two-parter.

543 wolfie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:48:02pm

re: #522 Palandine

Willpowwow's excreting on a dead thread. How DARE that plebe Joe the Plumber ask Obama (Peace Be Upon Him) a question?

Cute.
A definite ... GAZE

544 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:48:14pm

re: #533 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ditto, I'm over by Danville.

I'm down by Carbondale

545 Spellcheck  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:48:31pm

re: #517 Inquisitive

At least you got McCain...I got "that one"

Yeah, got one of him, too, at the end, but it wasn't a high note.

Ohio

546 Occasional Reader  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:48:37pm

Good night.

547 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:48:45pm

re: #537 notutopia

Did you see the McCain video coverage of the recent affair where he roasted
Obama? Now, that was righteous HUMOR! I had to watch it two times to hear everything he said because I was laughing so hard.

Saw both speeches at the time. Mac was so much better than Zero, it wasn't funny.

548 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:04pm

re: #522 Palandine

Willpowwow's excreting on a dead thread. How DARE that plebe Joe the Plumber ask Obama (Peace Be Upon Him) a question?

Go ding Will down - it will make your day.

549 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:10pm

re: #495 newsjunkie_ky

Now this is embarrassing
Michelle Obama Dances With Ellen

And so is this:
Barack Obama on Ellen

Is the rumour true that the crew was instructed to not look WAB in the face?

550 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:14pm

re: #538 MandyManners

Oops. I forgot.

GO PISS UP A ROPE.

Mandy in da house!

Hi Mandy!

551 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:33pm

re: #497 zombie

Yeah baby!

Already linked on LGF, Michelle Malkin, and Stop the ACLU, among many others.

Unleash the link-hounds!

You're now on the Hillary Clinton Forum, too. Not in your own thread, but one about the Ayers/Obama office building sharing thing.

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

552 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:39pm

re: #516 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You did? All I got was one ad for The One.

That's all I got too.

Hey don't be bogarting that bottle bub,Im still here.

553 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:46pm

re: #547 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Saw both speeches at the time. Mac was so much better than Zero, it wasn't funny.

Not only was Mac funny, but Jesus, his eyes!

554 Sheridan8  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:47pm

How do you spell busted?

O B A M A

555 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:48pm

If Oliver Stone can call George Walker Bush, W, then I'm going st start calling the one H.

556 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:49pm

re: #532 galvani

This episode of SNL is truly awful. Then again, even in the really good seasons, the show was (at most) 1/3 funny and 2/3 stuff that didn't work.

especially during the Joe Piscopo era.

557 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:49:59pm

re: #536 alien_mind

cheeseburger, chips.
no coke, pepsi.

Chip! Chip! Chip!

558 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:14pm

re: #549 MandyManners

Is the rumour true that the crew was instructed to not look WAB in the face?

Why? Does it make her look more bitter?

559 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:22pm

re: #464 Irene NYC
Me? Energetic? Are you sure about that?!

560 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:28pm

Now on Gateway Pundit, The Revolutionary Political Blog, and Elephant's Lounge, and Jensen Politics.

Steam is building! A new link every five minutes.

561 sparrowlake  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:29pm

Have a good night folks, time for me to log off.

562 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:31pm

The fat chick is singing again maybe the end is near.

563 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:44pm

Singer's too good to be on this show.

564 cliffster  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:50:52pm

hey all, just thought I'd drop by before I'm off to bed. Are we winning?

565 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:03pm

re: #549 MandyManners

Is the rumour true that the crew was instructed to not look WAB in the face?


I heard that but have no idea.

566 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:06pm

re: #552 x-wing

That's all I got too.

Hey don't be bogarting that bottle bub,Im still here.

Oh... you wanted it back?

There's a little left, I think...

567 tommygum  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:06pm

I admit I still watch SNL, but except for the Sarah skits, it sucked beyond comprehension. Or, as Bart Simpson said, "this both sucks and blows."

568 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:08pm

re: #559 realwest

Me? Energetic? Are you sure about that?!

Yes, sirree! You were really going a mile a minute. I commented on it but you had already left.
;)

569 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:16pm

re: #520 Cattt

Humburger, humburger! My favorite was Belushi dressed as the Killer Bee, with his mexican bandolero gun belts slung crossways across his chest and his bobbing antennaes! I would laugh so hard my jaws would ache!

570 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:36pm

re: #544 Inquisitive

I'm down by Carbondale

Arlington heights over here.

571 ACJohn  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:38pm

re: #562 Metal Man

The fat chick is singing again maybe the end is near.

The singer and Sarah the only god things on the Mudfest of a piss poor show

572 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:41pm

re: #560 zombie

Now on Gateway Pundit, The Revolutionary Political Blog, and Elephant's Lounge, and Jensen Politics.

Steam is building! A new link every five minutes.

I hope it's ok that I tipped Drudge. You never know - he might run it.

573 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:51:56pm

re: #564 cliffster

hey all, just thought I'd drop by before I'm off to bed. Are we winning?

The show hasn't killed any of us yet, so I think so...

574 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:52:11pm

re: #569 notutopia

Humburger, humburger! My favorite was Belushi dressed as the Killer Bee, with his mexican bandolero gun belts slung crossways across his chest and his bobbing antennaes! I would laugh so hard my jaws would ache!

I loved the Killer Bees.

575 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:52:14pm

re: #550 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Hi, VMP!

576 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:53:02pm

re: #575 MandyManners

Hi, VMP!

What, no whack?

/where's that bottle...

577 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:53:29pm

re: #543 wolfie

Funny how the media got Joe wrong. He's not saying "I make more than 250 K and how dare you raise my taxes."

He's saying: "I WANT to make 250 K and I don't want ninnies like you making my dreams a dis-incentive."

Which of course describes the vastness of the middle class Obama proclaims to be looking out for. Socialists advance when people lose "HOPE" and ask the gangsters to give it to them.

578 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:53:31pm

re: #563 Cattt

Singer's too good to be on this show.


no doubt. she was actually very good imo.

579 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:53:43pm

re: #565 newsjunkie_ky

I heard that but have no idea.

I posted a link to a blog with it on it yesterday but, there is no corroboration.

580 willpowwow  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:53:58pm

492 realwest
10/18/08 9:38:03 pm reply quote
0
re: #387 willpowwow
Hmmm

Registered since: Oct 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm
No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0


I guess it's getting tight for sleepers to be able to register and wait for the precisely correct moment to strike huh? Registered for all of 11 days and you've had two comments, both today! Remarkable.

What is the value of what you posted above? You went to some trouble to 'investigate' . The reality is, I just don't visit this site that often, and now I know why. Some other poster referred to me as an 'asshat'? What is that and how exactly does one wear one?

Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers.

581 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:54:29pm

re: #569 notutopia

Humburger, humburger! My favorite was Belushi dressed as the Killer Bee, with his mexican bandolero gun belts slung crossways across his chest and his bobbing antennaes! I would laugh so hard my jaws would ache!


My kids bought me the 'Best of Christopher Walken'. I love that DVD. They are instructed to call me if they know he is going to be hosting the show.

582 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:54:37pm

re: #551 Intrepid

You're now on the Hillary Clinton Forum, too. Not in your own thread, but one about the Ayers/Obama office building sharing thing.

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

Keep 'em coming!

I'm also on some McCain community blog site, but I can't figure out how to link to it.

583 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:55:19pm

re: #577 JohnAdams

Funny how the media got Joe wrong. He's not saying "I make more than 250 K and how dare you raise my taxes."

He's saying: "I WANT to make 250 K and I don't want ninnies like you making my dreams a dis-incentive."

Which of course describes the vastness of the middle class Obama proclaims to be looking out for. Socialists advance when people lose "HOPE" and ask the gangsters to give it to them.

My ex is an electrician who went from a druggie running wire to clean and sober with a masters license and his own company. Trust me when I say that my ex will instantly get Joe the Plumber, as will just about every other tradesman.

584 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:55:24pm

re: #491 Palandine
Oh, great! AT LEAST Chicago is giving kids money to get grades, St. Louis is only further retarding any music education they may get with rap music (which we all know is an oxymoron)!


I kid, not ALL rap music is terrible. Some of it is just bad.

585 wolfie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:55:53pm

re: #577 JohnAdams

Well said.

586 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:55:54pm

re: #579 MandyManners

I posted a link to a blog with it on it yesterday but, there is no corroboration.

Your link is probably where I heard it.

587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:56:11pm

re: #580 willpowwow

Softball up in the zone.

Who wants it?

588 cliffster  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:56:17pm

This is a great story. The Ayers thread is a great weapon against Barack (and therefore, against socialism). The challenge is to shape it into something that will influence the vote of people who are casual participants in the election, meaning, most people. Most people don't do legwork, don't do research, and don't read through blogs at midnight on a saturday night. So how to take this data and package it up so that it means something to people who care, but don't care to do research - that's how we win.

589 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:56:42pm

re: #572 Cattt

I hope it's ok that I tipped Drudge. You never know - he might run it.

OK? Hope it's OK that you tipped Drudge?

OF COURSE it's OK! It's great! Thanks!

590 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:57:02pm

re: #494 USCMSNE

NBC usually pulls its videos off of youtube. You should be able to see it on nbc.com

Thanks for the tip. I'll be sure to check their website out.

591 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:57:11pm

re: #555 mich-again

If Oliver Stone can call George Walker Bush, W, then I'm going st start calling the one H.

"H" Yeah, that works.
Printing up the t-shirts with the H and a big red circle/slash throug it.

592 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:57:15pm

re: #580 willpowwow

Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA?

I don't think that. I KNOW that.

593 Cognito  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:07pm

Hey, hey, good lookin's.

594 Palandine  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:17pm

re: #587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Softball up in the zone.

Who wants it?

Eh, he's no fun. Cowardly trolls who excrete their worst droppings in dead threads and act all innocent and reasonable in live ones are so tiring.

Hey Will! Post your diss of Joe the Plumber on this thread. Thrill us with your acumen.

595 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:20pm

re: #580 willpowwow

I responded to your post on the Iowahawk thread, If you care to refute .

596 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:30pm

re: #576 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

What, no whack?

/where's that bottle...

MM,mmm, aaahhh, hey ya go

597 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:35pm

re: #580 willpowwow

How many ACORN aliases have you used to vote early for BHO?

598 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:45pm

re: #580 willpowwow

What is the value of what you posted above? You went to some trouble to 'investigate' . The reality is, I just don't visit this site that often, and now I know why. Some other poster referred to me as an 'asshat'? What is that and how exactly does one wear one?

Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers.

You are a textbook example of a moby.

599 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:58:49pm

re: #493 wolfie
But, but, but - I'm in my room already!
C'mon face it - when SNL had Belushi and Ackroyd and even into the 90's with Dana Carvey and others it was usually funny. Now, if it's funny it's purely by accident.

600 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:59:08pm

I should apologize to the Woman that was singing on SNL. I threw out a lame joke hoping the end was near for the show. But she was as others have pointed out is very talented.

601 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:59:29pm

re: #580 willpowwow

492 realwest
10/18/08 9:38:03 pm reply quote
0
re: #387 willpowwow
Hmmm

Registered since: Oct 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm
No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0


I guess it's getting tight for sleepers to be able to register and wait for the precisely correct moment to strike huh? Registered for all of 11 days and you've had two comments, both today! Remarkable.

What is the value of what you posted above? You went to some trouble to 'investigate' . The reality is, I just don't visit this site that often, and now I know why. Some other poster referred to me as an 'asshat'? What is that and how exactly does one wear one?

Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers.

The facts are the facts. I mean, if you don't go by the evidence, what are you going by? And remember, it's more than just Bill Ayers. Father Fleuger, and Reverend Wright are also part of the equation. This is not a trivial thing at all.

602 Adina in Judea  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 9:59:38pm

re: #580 willpowwow

What is the value of what you posted above? You went to some trouble to 'investigate' . The reality is, I just don't visit this site that often, and now I know why.

Dear Asshat,

It only takes the click of one button to get user information when someone posts a comment. (See the football next to your name.)

Some other poster referred to me as an 'asshat'? What is that and how exactly does one wear one?

Look in the mirror.

Try not to scream.

603 MrSnuggles  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:00:02pm

re: #242 Pawn of the Oppressor

You've got it all wrong. When Obama enacts his socialist policies and they fail miserably and we enter the Great Depression Part II, everything will be blamed on Bush. Any lies he is caught telling will because Bush's policies forced him to do it.

604 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:00:43pm

re: #587 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Softball up in the zone.

Who wants it?

Meh - not me. Too much gristle.

605 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:00:58pm

re: #580 willpowwow

Clinton went through impeachment hearings because he LIED, not because he got a blow job in the oval office. If Obama had come clean about his association with Ayers it may not have been an issue.

The problem is Obama LIED about it, and continues to lie about it.

Get it now?

606 cliffster  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:01:03pm

re: #580 willpowwow


Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers.

He absolutely, 100% definitely wants to undermine the institutions of the USA, and whitewashes it in all the "programs" he wants to create. He's a socialist. His socialist ideas undermine the institutions of the USA. "Spreading the wealth around" undermines the institutions of the USA.

607 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:01:13pm

This is the WORST SNL I've seen in over 30 years. Except for Sarah Palin's smile and her incredibly hot boots!
;)

608 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:01:40pm

Well, that was painful.

Time for bed, don't let the trolls and Moby's bite.

609 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:02:09pm

I think Williams Ayers is really a very far right wing whacko.

610 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:02:23pm

re: #495 newsjunkie_ky
ROTFLMAO! I've seen Ellen dancing live at clubs and she really defines "no sense of rhythm" - but I expected the WAB to be at least a decent dancer - wow, they are each BAD - and I don't mean that in a good way, either! LOL!

611 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:02:30pm

At Last ...it is OVER! ! !

612 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:03:00pm

re: #585 wolfie

Thanks. People need to know that ALL governments devolve naturally into gangsterism and tyranny. The people can only rely on the LAW to officiate for the individual. It's that simple.

613 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:03:15pm

Now linked on a blog called The Political Inquirer.

614 mama winger  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:03:35pm

re: #595 mama winger

I responded to your post on the Iowahawk thread, If you care to refute .

I guess I will take the non-response as a NO.


goodnite, again

615 Inquisitive  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:03:50pm

re: #608 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, that was painful.

Time for bed, don't let the trolls and Moby's bite.

good night

616 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:04:21pm

re: #607 Irene NYC

This is the WORST SNL I've seen in over 30 years. Except for Sarah Palin's smile and her incredibly hot boots!
;)

Holy Crap, Irene I miss-read that last word...I saw a "b" where the "t" is.

It shocked me a little. More than a little. Heh.

617 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:11pm

re: #607 Irene NYC

This is the WORST SNL I've seen in over 30 years. Except for Sarah Palin's smile and her incredibly hot boots!
;)


This was the biggest set-up. The show may suck nowadays but not this fucking bad.

waiting to see how it is if TheOne appears, then we'll know.

618 rain of lead  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:26pm

Oh goody
I got the grill flaming, ready for some gamey buttocks
come on willpowpow open your stupid yap somemore.
come on big boy you know you want to

619 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:31pm

re: #498 bosforus
Sorry, I don't even know what a .tar file IS!

620 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:35pm

I predict that leftists will claim that they intentionally made the show so excruciatingly bad to make Sarah look good in comparison(because the left knows she couldn't possibly be funny).

/Rove must have dirt on them!

621 wolfie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:48pm

re: #599 realwest

I can't help but wonder how it has survived.
Not much competition for ratings at that hour, I guess.

(My favorite alltime SNL skit was Dan Akroyd doing the Bassomatic ad.
Do you remember that one?)

622 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:55pm

re: #599 realwest

But, but, but - I'm in my room already!
C'mon face it - when SNL had Belushi and Ackroyd and even into the 90's with Dana Carvey and others it was usually funny. Now, if it's funny it's purely by accident.

The show started out with more funny sketches than crap. In the 90s it had funny sketches that could last 2 minutes but they beat a dead horse for 5 extra minutes. Now the dead horse is just bones at the start of the sketch and they still beat it for 5 minutes.

623 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:05:57pm

re: #589 zombie

Zombie, Are you preparing yourself for the Media Acid Test of validating your sources to all of these reporters? They'll want rights to post it on the MSM networks.
It's not as easy a path as blogging to get it into print or radio broadcast because of all the legaleeze and disclaimers and approvals required from editors and publishers. You can expect to get barraged with inquiries on your website!

624 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:06:11pm

re: #608 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Well, that was painful.

Time for bed, don't let the trolls and Moby's bite.

Later, I got the light switch.

625 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:07:02pm

Except for the divine Sarah and the singer, that was dreadful.

626 Racer X  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:07:07pm

re: #618 rain of lead

Oh goody
I got the grill flaming, ready for some gamey buttocks
come on willpowpow open your stupid yap somemore.
come on big boy you know you want to

This one's got nothing.

:-(

627 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:07:50pm

re: #507 Racer X
Hey Racer X! Well this one seemed sorta sleeperish to me, but - given that there was no cogent thinking going on and no real criticism of LGF, Charles or us worth talking about, I reckon you're right - troll for sure!

628 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:08:49pm

re: #512 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) How true - just no patience at all.

629 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:08:54pm

The fucker just insulted mama winger.

630 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:02pm

Go ahead and dive into some of this pure crapola from William Ayers. This is really just complete ignorant nonsense here. He redefines no talent ass clown.

631 tommygum  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:05pm

re: #621 wolfie

I can't help but wonder how it has survived.
Not much competition for ratings at that hour, I guess.

(My favorite alltime SNL skit was Dan Akroyd doing the Bassomatic ad.
Do you remember that one?)

I first time I saw that I couldn't believe he drank it.

632 Arbalest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:18pm

#387 willpowwow (I gotta ask: is this a Ward Churchill reference?)
…… Reading things like that, I would think the people who post on here are no different than that fellow with the toy monkey at the McCain rally in PA.
Oh, ha, ha, let's call each other names and be real witty! While the fate of the United States of America hangs in the balance.

Is this the sort of wit for which you seek?
(Don’t click the link. It’s to MichelleMalkin.com)

.
re: #580 willpowwow

"Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers."

Simply typing "owowowowowowow" would have looked better.

Obama and Ayres likely do not work together. The CAC project activity and results suggest that Obama works for Ayres.

633 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:27pm

All of this excellent investigative work on the Bill Ayers connection to Obama by non-media people, by regular citizens, makes me happy I'm an American. The message to these anti-Americans is don't mess with the American people! And that includes the media, who also are messing with us.

634 Intrepid  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:34pm

re: #629 MandyManners

The fucker just insulted mama winger.

Where?

635 rain of lead  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:43pm

I miss the old days when we had quality trolls around here

636 Rancher  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:09:49pm

re: #497 zombie

Yeah baby!

Already linked on LGF, Michelle Malkin, and Stop the ACLU, among many others.

Unleash the link-hounds!


Nice company!

637 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:10:12pm

re: #583 Cattt

It is not beyond strange, I think some of these reporters may be simply stupid. Dianne Sawyer in particular acted as if she were 3 years old. Like Couric, she confuses bitchiness with intelligence.

638 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:11:20pm

And a hearty "Thank you" to Charles for being the first one to jump on this and feature the photo of the review! LGF lights the fuse, the blogosphere explodes!

639 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:11:34pm

re: #634 Intrepid

Where?

The Joe thread.

640 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:11:38pm

re: #617 x-wing

This was the biggest set-up. The show may suck nowadays but not this fucking bad.

waiting to see how it is if TheOne appears, then we'll know.

if The One was on they would have written some really great funny skits for him, they would have showcased him and made sure he looked good.

Sarah, they kinda just let her stand around in two unfunny skits. they could have done so much more with her but I just don't think they wanted her to have a big moment.

641 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:12:11pm

re: #638 zombie

And a hearty "Thank you" to Charles for being the first one to jump on this and feature the photo of the review! LGF lights the fuse, the blogosphere explodes!


That's because LGF hearts zombie.

642 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:12:31pm

re: #639 MandyManners

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

643 Purple Prose  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:12:34pm

There is an interesting question about Obama's campaign, considering he is outspending McCain by 3-to-1 in ads (and ACORN vote fraud, etc.). Democrats are supposed to represent the common man, while Republicans represent the rich. The facts, of course, suggest otherwise. Palin is by far the "poorest" of all four Pres. or VP candidates. Democrats are loaded with dough. Is this the poor man - white or black or purple or orange - contributing the money? Is it a gazillion DKosers? Me thinks not. There are huge financial interests behind Obama - and why is that so? Where does the Obama money come from?

Follow the money.

644 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:12:45pm

Really, that story from William Ayers called "Freddie" I linked to is like a high school play honkey moonbat version of a Fat Albert episode or something really stupid like that. Obama looked up to this twit?

645 cliffster  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:12:54pm

re: #629 MandyManners

The fucker just insulted mama winger.

Where did that happen?

646 alien_mind  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:13:53pm

re: #621 wolfie

I can't help but wonder how it has survived.
Not much competition for ratings at that hour, I guess.

(My favorite alltime SNL skit was Dan Akroyd doing the Bassomatic ad.
Do you remember that one?)

my favorite alltime skit is Chris Farley as Matt Foley - motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river! never laughed so hard.

647 rain of lead  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:13:54pm

re: #634 Intrepid

Where?

little f**ker is running back and forth between here and the dead I AM LOE thread

648 zombie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:13:57pm

re: #623 notutopia

Zombie, Are you preparing yourself for the Media Acid Test of validating your sources to all of these reporters? They'll want rights to post it on the MSM networks.
It's not as easy a path as blogging to get it into print or radio broadcast because of all the legaleeze and disclaimers and approvals required from editors and publishers. You can expect to get barraged with inquiries on your website!

I have no contact form on my Web site! They'll have a hell of a time contacting me.

I document where it came from pretty clearly in the post. If they want permission, they know they'll have to go the Chicago Tribune.

Though, if it's part of a news story, I imagine "Fair use" rules might apply.

649 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:13:59pm

"I interviewed the Ayer's book for god's sake. That doesn't meant I read it." Obama to a ass kissing media.
"He is just like us!"
Response.

650 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:14:58pm

re: #642 MandyManners

He is a pig fucker.

651 wolfie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:15:18pm

re: #631 tommygum

I first time I saw that I couldn't believe he drank it.

True grit! LOL !

652 Rancher  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:16:14pm

SNL update:
Couple came into the hotel and wanted to know what channel and time SNL was on. I'm watching it as are my two sons at three different locations. This will set records.

Music's good, don't know who she was. No Sarah yet. So far just a few funny skits. News is on.

653 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:16:24pm

re: #640 alien_mind

I'm sure of that.

I guess Immelt doesn't mind running NBC into the crapper. It's freakin' unbelievable.

654 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:16:52pm

zombie,

Then there's the question about how Obama got his review into the paper. Did Ayers ask Obama to write it? Did Obama offer to write it for Ayers? Who knew the editor of the book review to get this review place or was the book review editor another lefty who was friends with Ayers? Etc. Etc. Etc.

655 scratch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:16:53pm

"A searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, written by some guy who lives in my neighborhood."

656 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:16:58pm

re: #645 cliffster

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

657 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:17:17pm

re: #650 pat

He is a pig fucker.

Don't insult pigs, please.

658 JohnAdams  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:17:21pm

re: #635 rain of lead

I miss the old days when we had quality trolls around here

Must comment.
As a relatively new poster in the blogosphere, this is BY FAR the most civilized, fair, careful, self-policing website in existence. Credit not only to Charles Johnson, but all the individuals of character who post here.
There are liberal-leaning posts with plenty of well-meaning people, but those sites also host many absolutely baseless, Godless people (witness the unbelievably vile attacks on Sarah Palin, who is a good and honest regular citizen).

659 mich-again  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:17:27pm

And in that story called Freddie from the book "A Kind and Just Parent" Ayers uses a rebel in the classroom to make an argument for legalized drugs. Most interesting, Comrade Obama.

660 MrSnuggles  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:17:47pm

re: #646 alien_mind

That was when they actually had talent on SNL. It really hasnt been the same since Chris Farley. The best ones always die young.

661 esch  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:18:31pm

re: #650 pat

He is a pig fucker.

He's just inspired by Congress. You know, 'bringing home the pork'

662 cliffster  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:19:05pm

re: #656 MandyManners

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Well it's kind of sad. This person is a worthless piece of shit jerk-off, and knows it. I feel bad for it.

663 x-wing  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:19:33pm

re: #646 alien_mind

my favorite alltime skit is Chris Farley as Matt Foley - motivational speaker who lives in a van down by the river! never laughed so hard.

I bought that DVD. I die eveytime I see it. The Cip n Dale dancer is a riot too, but Matt is hands down the best.

664 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:20:12pm

re: #580 willpowwow

492 realwest
10/18/08 9:38:03 pm reply quote
0
re: #387 willpowwow
Hmmm

Registered since: Oct 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm
No. of comments posted: 2
No. of links posted: 0


I guess it's getting tight for sleepers to be able to register and wait for the precisely correct moment to strike huh? Registered for all of 11 days and you've had two comments, both today! Remarkable.

What is the value of what you posted above? You went to some trouble to 'investigate' . The reality is, I just don't visit this site that often, and now I know why. Some other poster referred to me as an 'asshat'? What is that and how exactly does one wear one?

Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers.

You're a moron. Obama is a Marxist, an observer that fails to see this is, a priori, a moron. His basic socio-economic philosophy will undermine the institutions of the U.S. of A.

As for his being in a much bigger league than Ayers, not yet. He's just at the threshold, and knocking hard, Ayers, and Co., has put him there, but he won't get in, even with morons like you ready to knock down the door. You're just too weak.

As for the definition of an "asshat", go ask your mama. If she replies, you'll know.

665 Metal Man  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:22:38pm

re: #656 MandyManners

Would it be of value for us all to go down there and post

I am Mama Winger

or would that just feed the troll?

666 Catttt  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:23:41pm

Pat - excellent cat story - thanks for drawing my attention to it. Two claws up!

“Eres mucho gato, Homer.”

667 pat  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:28pm

re: #666 Cattt

Thanks. *

668 Edgar  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:47pm

re: #643 Purple Prose

Is this the poor man - white or black or purple or orange - contributing the money? Is it a gazillion DKosers? Me thinks not. There are huge financial interests behind Obama - and why is that so? Where does the Obama money come from?

I'd wager that he has a mini-army of leprechauns funding his campaign from their gold coffers.

669 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:25:00pm
William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says “We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn’t suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?

The little baggy pants gangbanger broke into someone's house and stole it, or one of his "homies" did, Ayers, you miserable leftist f***wit!

Of course, the conclusion that Ayers and by extension, Obama, is wanting us to draw is that THE MAN put that gun into the hand of that poor oppressed little homeboy, and that therefore, law abiding middle class citizens should have their firearms confiscated by the state, while poor oppressed inner city youts should be absolved of any crimes they commit with an illegally obtained firearm, up to and including murder.


It's going to be a long four years if these f***tards take power.

670 Edgar  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:30:05pm

re: #664 M. Bensson-Levi



You're a moron. Obama is a Marxist, an observer that fails to see this is, a priori, a moron. His basic socio-economic philosophy will undermine the institutions of the U.S. of A.

I need to understand this definition of "Marxist" better. If Obama is a follower of Marx, does that mean virtually every left-wing government in the world is too? Or is Obama in a class of his own?

The only examples of true "Marxist" leaders I've seen have been in African countries and in terrorist groups.

671 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:33:19pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Pick a year to start with.

Pick a few names to start with.

Go to public library. Check what papers are on micro film/cd/scanned into data base.
Check indexes for your names in your years. Check obits, weddings, births, legal postings.
Check library index cards(if available) for books, articles for your names. Not all items are in computer data bases as local libraries often do not have enough volunteers to enter physical card indexes.
Check with local, county and state associations for professions.
Check historical societies.
Check for groups your subjects were known to associate with, etc.: SDS, WU.

Get a book on how to be a PI and conduct an investigation. What you can and cannot do legally as a private citizen. Interesting what kind of data bases are open to private citizens.

672 Indymaestro  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:33:38pm

I'm as conservative as the next guy, but sheesh some of you people need to loosen up about the SNL thing and humor in general. I agree it sucks and I particularly loathe the hipster NY-type douchebags who like it, but I still realize it is what it is.

Just because we're conservative, it doesn't mean we need to be "taliban" conservative folks.

673 deportman  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:34:52pm

Does BHO suffer from clinical amnesia or clinical prevarication?

674 Colonel Panik  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:36:08pm

Saturday Night Live, like Francisco Franco, is still dead.

675 deportman  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:37:27pm

re: #672 Indymaestro Well said.

676 M. Bensson-Levi  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:37:59pm

re: #670 Edgar

I need to understand this definition of "Marxist" better. If Obama is a follower of Marx, does that mean virtually every left-wing government in the world is too? Or is Obama in a class of his own?

The only examples of true "Marxist" leaders I've seen have been in African countries and in terrorist groups.

In truth, I may have used too fine a brush to paint him. Would "socialist/ communist", suit you better? Certainly he is the former, and probably the latter. However, observe his actions, his techniques, those that he can exercise in our still free society. A Marxist, he may very well be.

677 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:38:32pm

re: #580 willpowwow
Uh, my investigating you consisted of clicking on the little green football next to your name. That's me, a real Sherlock Holmes.
I don't know who called you asshat but it's not a hat, it's just a nicer way to say that someone is an asshole.
And FYI, the topic of this thread is the relationship between Obama and Ayers - and of course Ayers' friend in the Weather Underground and founder of ACORN Wade Rathke (you could google him or just go to Wikipedia) which registers ONLY DEMOCRATIC VOTERS and is under investigation for voter fraud in something like 15 states, including my home state and the out and out lie Obama has said about his relationship with Ayers - which was "none", yet he still wrote a "blurb" on Ayer's book jacket presumably to help it sell more copies. That the Democrats have nominated someone for POTUS who has palled around with Ayers, his ever so charming wife Bernadine Dohrn (both of whom were granted clemency by Bill Clinton in his last day as President - Ayers for bombing buildnings, Dohrn for bombing buildings and killing one cop and blinding another) and of course, the Right Reverend Jeremiah Wright all of whom bring into question Obama's sense of judgement and the nature of people with whom he knowingly befriends and assciates with. And of course ACORN which registered 600,000 voters in Ohio (a key battleground state) - and as I said above, all DEMOCRATS - over 200,000 of whom were kicked off the voter rolls either because they were dead, lived in a vacant lot in Clevland or simply tried to register with the same name multiple times.
See, we kinda find that Obama's associates and friends are kinda outside the pale but more importantly are pointing out that Senator Obama LIED about his association with Ayers, Dohrn and ACORN (we don't know if Senator Obama knew Wade Rathke but it seems likely) and we think that that lie and those lapses in judgement DO have something to do with one's qualifications as President of the United States.

678 NY Nana  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:39:06pm

re: #625 Cattt

Except for the divine Sarah and the singer, that was dreadful.

Exactly. I kept waiting for something to happen...nada.

Got to go to sleep...an all day into the night baby sitting assignment with our favorite 2 year old grandson today in exotic Brooklyn! I can say that as so far he is the only grandson! ;)

G'nite, all. Sweet dreams!

/Does NBC pay by the word now that they are tanking so badly and GE is going broke?

679 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:39:22pm

re: #673 deportman

Does BHO suffer from clinical amnesia or clinical prevarication?

That would be door number two.
Unless, of course, the Queen of Hearts sends him into a pre-conditioned state.

680 NY Nana  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:40:07pm

re: #674 Colonel Panik

Saturday Night Live, like Francisco Franco, is still dead.

ROTFL! I nominate it for a rotating title!

681 NY Nana  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:41:19pm

re: #673 deportman

Does BHO suffer from clinical amnesia or clinical prevarication?

Both.

682 Archimedes  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:41:54pm

re: #674 Colonel Panik

Saturday Night Live, like Francisco Franco, is still dead.

Now, how does that relate to the number 19?

1 = the one, God
9 is a number
1 + 9 represents the language of math. All of math can be described with it.

9 = the nine planets
1 = to the sun

Calm down. Don't get too excited yet! This is something I've been working on!

683 solomonpanting  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:44:56pm

re: #677 realwest

Good post.
My only question:

we think that that lie and those lapses in judgement DO have something to do with one's qualifications as President of the United States.

What makes you think they're "lapses"?

Hope you're feeling well.

684 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:07pm

re: #629 MandyManners
Where Mandy? What comment #?

685 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:54:23pm

re: #672 Indymaestro
Huh. I read a lot of comments out here that said SNL sucked tonight.
I didn't read any that said we should a)keep SNL off the airwaves or b) kill them for their infidel views of "comedy" so I think your "taliban" comment was out of place - WAAAY out of place.

686 Zonie  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:56:41pm

re: #134 jetprop

But..but..0bama was only eight years old when he wrote that review..honest..
/sarc

Ayers probably wrote it himself for the plastic messiah to sign off on.

687 talon_262  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:59:58pm

re: #512 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

It takes years of undercover work to develop into a quality troll.

These kids today don't want to put in the time.

They are panicking and scrambling to provide cover for Dear Leader...they don't have the luxury of time, with the election being less than three weeks away.

688 LittleGreenFavre  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:26pm

"This is just a guy from my neighborhood."

The smoking guns keep coming. I'm sure that this time the MSM will do their job and expose this fraud for what it is.

/msm crickets concert -on

689 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:01:10pm

re: #683 solomonpanting
I'm feeling ok my friend but the meds have me worn out.
And I'm not sure they are "lapses" but was trying to merely show the connections - ya know, connect the dots: Ayers, Dohrn, Rathke - Weather Underground bombers and murders; Rathke ACORN and ACORN Voter Fraud for Obama; Ayers, Dohrn political coffee meeting or full tilt boogie financing for Obama to run for the US Senate; Ayers and Obama sharing an office or at least offices in an extremely small office building; Obama writes a blurb on and promoting Ayers book, but OBAMA didn't know Ayers?! What?
The pattern of deceit is what concerns me the most - the people he's denied knowing or having any connection with bother me as well.

690 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:01:12pm

re: #665 Metal Man

He was actually ranting... feverishly and out of control! Just lost it right here on the LGF thread about Joe! The problem is we're all Joe! Mama Winger I have to give it to you, you were wonderful! You are to be commended on your cool headedness. Nothing like trying to talk down someones out of control behavior on your keyboard!

691 Indymaestro  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:02:42pm

re: #685 realwest

Hyperbole on my part to be sure, but my point is that we shouldn't become the humorless prudes that the lefties portray us to be (especially considering the fact that many of us have the most sardonic and razor-sharp wit out there, like McCain at the A. Smith memorial).

Anyways, I'm mainly addressing the people saying Palin "lowered" herself or whatever for that last skit with the rap "music" (and believe me as a classically-trained musician, I'm the harshest critic of so-called Hip-Hop "culture" and "music"). She was reaching out to a new audience and I think she did a good job of portraying herself as someone who can poke fun of themself, and who isn't the puritan troglodyte that the left has made her out to be.

Just my opinion though.

692 blastforth  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:03:01pm

'Ayers, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!"

693 Gus 802  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:04:17pm

Nice work Zombie. I've always been impressed with your work.

This solidifies the suspicion that Obama’s relationship with Ayers goes beyond Obama’s initial claim that “Ayer’s was just some guy in my neighborhood.” I don’t need to review the current corroborating evidence countering Obama’s fictionalized account of his past.

694 realwest  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:06:25pm

Well all y'all it's LATE Eastern time and I've gotta get some sleep NOW.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

695 tommygum  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:07:58pm

G'nite.

696 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:08:38pm

re: #387 willpowwow

What is the point of this post?


The point of the post is to provide photographic proof that Obama is lying about his connection to Ayers

There doesn't seem to be any discussion of the content of the book - is it any good?


Zombie described the content of the book thus "Thesis: Release all juvenile offenders, regardless of the seriousness of their crimes (including murderers and rapists).

Was Obama's description accurate?


You mean was it "searing and timely"? Possibly. Was it a load PC, liberal, pro-criminal crap? Given the source most likely

While the fate of the United States of America hangs in the balance.


Given that the fate of our country hangs on whether this empty marxist suit gets defeated in November and this post may help save this country I'd say it's pretty damn important

697 LittleGreenFavre  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:09:40pm

re: #682 Archimedes

Now, how does that relate to the number 19?

1 = the one, God
9 is a number
1 + 9 represents the language of math. All of math can be described with it.

9 = the nine planets
1 = to the sun

Calm down. Don't get too excited yet! This is something I've been working on!

I hope you're just enjoying a couple of beers while biding your time. Please don't mess with the stuff BHO tried in his college years: it's unhealthy.

/just kidding

698 Neo Con since 9-11  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:10:42pm

re: #497 zombie

I put it up at a puma sit I don't know if they've actually visited.

699 abolitionist  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:18:28pm

I saw that last week, embedded in something I was reading about someone else. It was shrunck down to near-illegibility. I was puzzled about Obama's picture there, next to info about a book by Ayers.

/duh!

700 Macker  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:31:01pm

But it's for the children.

/whiney_assed_sarc

701 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:36:46pm

re: #4 zombie

Zombie, Also, Sent to: Fox, Frank
National Review, Corner, Stan Kurtz
Also sent them link coverage of the Office Bldg. Sharing for 3 yrs.

702 willpowwow  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:45:38pm

re: #598 zombie

Did I impersonate a conservative? I doubt it. There sure is a lot of hatefulness on this site. It doesn't reflect well on you all as a group. I suspect you wouldn't speak to people in person the way you do in this sem-anonymous cesspool. Have a great time fretting over your whacked-out conspiracy theories, your bs anti-socialism. Socialism sure came in handy once the banking system took a dump, huh? And I suppose you'll tell me it's because of CRA/FNMA/FHLMC. You folks are used by the propaganda machines.

ACORN, Ayres, Obama, muslim, help! Bye, bye.

703 notutopia  Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:59:51pm

re: #7 zombie

Sent Wall Street Journal
Also sent the article about the shared bldg for 3 yrs.

704 Arbalest  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:04:05am

#702 willpowwow

… There sure is a lot of hatefulness on this site. It doesn't reflect well on you all as a group.

Compare LGF to Kos, HuffPo, DU, or these people.

I suspect you wouldn't speak to people in person the way you do in this sem-anonymous cesspool.

See previous link. It's that good.


… Socialism sure came in handy once the banking system took a dump, huh? And I suppose you'll tell me it's because of CRA/FNMA/FHLMC.

Frank Raines, Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, a particular lawsuit in Illinois that Obama litigated … the common link is CRA/FNMA, and the world knows it.

You folks are used by the propaganda machines.

Speaking of which, the MSM seems to be trying it’s best to not replay the various video footage they have of Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and others, assuring the nation (from a committee room in the US Capitol) that there is (was) not problem of any sort with FNMA. Meanwhile, the world knows different. Or do Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and others have some additional comments?

705 DisturbedEma  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:31:34am

re: #704 Arbalest

#702 willpowwow

… There sure is a lot of hatefulness on this site. It doesn't reflect well on you all as a group.

Compare LGF to Kos, HuffPo, DU, or these people.

I suspect you wouldn't speak to people in person the way you do in this sem-anonymous cesspool.

See previous link. It's that good.


… Socialism sure came in handy once the banking system took a dump, huh? And I suppose you'll tell me it's because of CRA/FNMA/FHLMC.

Frank Raines, Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, a particular lawsuit in Illinois that Obama litigated … the common link is CRA/FNMA, and the world knows it.

You folks are used by the propaganda machines.

Speaking of which, the MSM seems to be trying it’s best to not replay the various video footage they have of Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and others, assuring the nation (from a committee room in the US Capitol) that there is (was) not problem of any sort with FNMA. Meanwhile, the world knows different. Or do Maxine Waters, Barney Frank and others have some additional comments?

Upding chaaaching!

706 Arbalest  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:03:59am

re: #705 DisturbedEma

Thanks for the vote.

I suspect that willpowwow might be back in a day or so, but I think that, in the process of considering a response or two, he will realize that he’s being used.

707 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 2:07:03am
708 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 4:03:59am

I just noticed that the publisher of Ayers' book is Beacon Press, which is the publishing arm of the Unitarian Universalist Association.

As a (lapsed) U-U myself, I'm very disappointed but not surprised. The national UUA has always been extremely liberal, as one might expect from having their headquarters in Boston.

709 Roark  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 4:10:19am

Several references to Kerry throughout this thread. One thing not mentioned by any of you; Wasn't the the memory of those swift boat adventures seared in Kerry's memory. What is it about the word sear that socialists love so much?

710 quickjustice  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 4:51:24am

Obama's use of "Milton Model" hypnosis during his speeches could explain why I have this irresistible impulse to begin clucking like a chicken every time I hear him speak! ;-)

711 Ron Shaw  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 5:46:54am

Yet, the political bhonly talking-point pundits on the left including the msm and unfortunately some on the right daily parrot the same lines in respect to all the Ayers and Obama connections like, 'voters are not concerned about Bill Ayers, that's just a distraction!' I totally disagree!

And it is amazing, disgusting, repulsive and pathetic in an I-think-they-protest-too-much way how quickly they go from their bho-approved script of 'he's just a guy in the neighborhood' rebuttals to a complete whitewash for bho's continuing lies and cover-up in this relationship that has lasted for decades with plenty of evidence including money trails for the pair.

One might think real journalists would be all over this story...that is, if one were not in America right now with zombies masquerading as journalists within the msm. One might also ask where is the voice of those in the new stream media. Obviously, more and more of these, like Bill O'Reilly of late, have been bitten by msm zombies or are suddenly content with doing backstrokes in the bho septic tank. As O'Reilly said a night or two ago 'he, bho, looked me in the eye and answered all my questions!' Right Bill O, I saw the interviews with Bill and the one and I beg to differ on the 'answered all my questions' part. Bill O looked like a giggly school girl talking to the captain of the football team all the while hoping for a smile, a wink, a date or any sign of approval. I think Bill O was bitten by Chris Matthews during a Chris tingly msm-zombies-for-bho moment. Maybe these newly-brainless walking-dead on the right need to watch 'Animal House' again and find new backbone and courage in the prophetic words of the late John Belushi, 'Over? Who said it's over! It ain't over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! It ain't over!' Or words of fighting inspiration and wisdom to that effect.

712 FrogMarch  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 5:58:59am

More evidence that Obama is a major liar.

713 bolivar  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 6:06:38am

re: #580 willpowwow

492 realwest
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re: #387 willpowwow
Hmmm

Registered since: Oct 7, 2008 at 3:51 pm
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I guess it's getting tight for sleepers to be able to register and wait for the precisely correct moment to strike huh? Registered for all of 11 days and you've had two comments, both today! Remarkable.

What is the value of what you posted above? You went to some trouble to 'investigate' . The reality is, I just don't visit this site that often, and now I know why. Some other poster referred to me as an 'asshat'? What is that and how exactly does one wear one?

Honesty, this whole Ayers thing is so tiring and useless. Do you really, really think that Barack Obama is a terrorist-sympathizer and had some kind of dark (ha!) agenda to undermine the institutions of the USA? It's such a waste of time and attention and makes people look like 9-11 truthers. Get a grip. They ain't working together and Obama's in a much bigger league than Bill Ayers.

Probably a dead thread but this guy is a real loser. Come on now will you really don't believe this tripe now do you?

I know Charles has "debunked" the Birth Certificate thing but, the messiah still has not produced a CERTIFIED COPY of his ORIGINAL AND REAL one. The analysis of the one circulating is that it is doctored with his sisters name under his. It does not have a number on it and to think that all he has to do is produce the real deal and it would all be over. I mean how much simpler could it be than that? They must not have broken into the Hawaii Secretary of State (or whoever oversees birth certs) yet so they cannot lie about it.

COME ON BARRY, produce a real one huh? Can't do it can ya?

714 Thorn  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 6:57:11am

Did Obama write a blurb for the Ayers book Fugitive Days? Several online opinion pieces have said he did, but I haven't seen a copy of the original 2001 hardcover book. Images of the 2003 paperback version are available on Amazon, and there are blurbs on the cover of that edition from Studs Terkel, Hunter Thompson, Carolyn See of the Washington Post Book World, the Chicago Tribune (reviewer's name not given), and Edward Said.

715 politicalinsomniac  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 7:37:24am

re: #497 zombie

Yeah baby!

Already linked on LGF, Michelle Malkin, and Stop the ACLU, among many others.

Unleash the link-hounds!

Thanks, Zombie!

716 sdhawgman  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 8:51:18am

re: #51 arethusa


Here is the SCAREY part of the Factcheck.Org Article. Actually it's fits with the Liberal BS about Ayers didn't kill anybody so he's supposed to be OK?

Even the description of Ayers as a "terrorist" is a matter of interpretation. Setting off bombs can fairly be described as terrorism even when they are intended to cause only property damage, which is what Ayers has admitted doing in his youth. But for nearly three decades since, Ayers has lived the relatively quiet life of an educator. It would be correct to call him a "former terrorist," and an "unapologetic" one at that. But if McCain means the word "terrorist" to invoke images of 9/11, he's being misleading; Ayers is no Osama bin Laden now, and never was.

So I guess it OK if I just BLOW UP PROPERTY...

717 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 8:55:58am
718 J.S.  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 9:12:01am

re: #716 sdhawgman

A couple of weeks back (iirc) the so-called "Fact" Check org was tied to the Obama camp -- it's just another Annenburg Project. That's where "Fact" (yeah, tell me another one) "not checked" gets all its info. Look up "FactCheck" through Wiki (in the past, unless of course, it's down the rabbit hole), and there's a paragraph as to where FactCheck receives its funding...I also (over a month ago) noted that "FactCheck" was spreading untruths about S. Palin -- it's just not reliable. Or it's about as "Reliable" as CNN's "political" so-called "truth squads." Don't believe them.

719 armaros  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 3:58:41pm

Michelle O. Organized discussion group with Barak and Ayers:

[Link: wnd.com...]

720 valkyrie  Sun, Oct 19, 2008 7:34:57pm

I just watched the video, again, of Obama in the primary debate moderated by George Stephanopolous where George asks him about his relationship with Ayers and Obama says, "He was just a guy in the neighborhood." Obama goes on to make the mistake of calling Ayers an English professor.

We now know that Obama worked closely with Ayers for many years on education reform issues and he should have known that Ayers was an Education professor...not an English professor.

It dawned on me that it might have been a Freudian slip. With the allegations coming out now that Ayers may have written Obama's book, Dreams of my Father, did Obama have an "oh sh*t" moment in that debate...thinking, "I hope they don't find out that Ayers wrote my bestselling book," and slipping up and calling Ayers an English professor.

It seems odd to me that he would make that slip-up...unless he was distracted thinking about Ayers primarily as a writer, and primarily as the writer of his supposed autobiography.

Pants on fire, indeed. What is the truth, Senator Obama?

721 TheHardHat  Mon, Oct 20, 2008 4:04:13am

Why wouldn't Bill give it a good review. He helped ghost write the book. Obama. Up that that point, Obama demonstrates no litery skill whatosever. Then, all of a sudden, he writes a book? His book that has the same style and same 'thought points' as Bill Ayers book.

722 SecondComing  Mon, Oct 20, 2008 8:53:06am

Obama's nose looks larger than normal in that picture. Did he have a nose job?


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