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Open | Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 10:16:25 pm PDT
When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set.
— Lin Yutang
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Open | Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 10:16:25 pm PDT
When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set.
— Lin Yutang
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:17:44pm |
Scary thought, but SO Obamanesque as he is deep down a small man
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:18:18pm |
Already up to 20 blog links to my Ayers review photo. That was FAST!
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Racer X Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:18:20pm |
Hope does not equal accomplishment.
Entitlement does not equal empowerment.
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:18:53pm |
re: #1 zombie
I like this night so far.
Me too. Great info on Obama Ayers and Klonsky and I hope the story spreads like wildfire
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pianobuff Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:20:07pm |
USA Today Poll on Palin's SNL appearance. Go vote!
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Rancher Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:20:56pm |
Thats an awesome quote. SNL is now putting me to sleep. Bring on Sarah!
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:21:29pm |
zombie,
repost from last thread:
Then there's the question about how Obama got his review into the paper. Did Ayers ask Obama to write it? Did Obama offer to write it for Ayers? Who knew the editor of the book review to get this review placed or was the book review editor another lefty who was friends with Ayers? Etc. Etc. Etc.
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pat Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:21:35pm |
Is the Master of Illusion going to be exposed before he destroys the nation?
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winston06 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:22:29pm |
Looking forward to Monday, to be honest. Don't like Sundays.
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:23:15pm |
re: #9 Irene NYC
zombie,
repost from last thread:
Then there's the question about how Obama got his review into the paper. Did Ayers ask Obama to write it? Did Obama offer to write it for Ayers? Who knew the editor of the book review to get this review placed or was the book review editor another lefty who was friends with Ayers? Etc. Etc. Etc.
Very good questions! And I'm quite sure we'll never find out the answers.
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logboy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:23:17pm |
Exactly how deep does the rabbit hole with the Big 0 and Ayers go?
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:23:51pm |
re: #3 zombie
Already up to 20 blog links to my Ayers review photo. That was FAST!
Nice~I hope this flys around, gotta take Obama down!
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:02pm |
re: #10 pat
Is the Master of Illusion going to be exposed before he destroys the nation?
I pray pray pray that he will be exposed and defeated. I convinced another Hillary supporter to vote McCain tonight
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:06pm |
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cliffster Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:18pm |
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newsjunkie_ky Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:21pm |
Zombie,
I emailed your link and heard back from kaintuck. He said to tell you Hi and he forwarded it to his list.
Soon it will be everywhere.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:31pm |
wow, just finished reading all the way down the last thread when this one came up! my eyes hurt. Oh, and excellent work Zombie! I too want to see photos of Ayers & Obama together, there must be tons of them out there, or even just one photo of Obama smoking...
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MandyManners Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:50pm |
Oh, if that new troll comes by, please kick his sorry butt for me.
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solomonpanting Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:24:55pm |
When small men begin to cast big shadows, it means that the sun is about to set.
Sounds like the desire of some to see Obama's shadow bring the US down a rung or two.
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jaunte Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:25:36pm |
SNL was a huge waste of time. No more drugs, kids. Rots the brain.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:25:48pm |
Did I miss anything? I was bitterly clinging to my adult beverages and ALCS Game 6 earlier tonight.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:26:02pm |
re: #17 SpartanWoman
I pray pray pray that he will be exposed and defeated. I convinced another Hillary supporter to vote McCain tonight
From lurking on her forum, it looks like alot of the Hills girls are jumping ship and coming to our side! :)
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:26:19pm |
re: #26 Fenway_Nation
Did I miss anything? I was bitterly clinging to my adult beverages and ALCS Game 6 earlier tonight.
you made a wise choice
;)
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JeremiahRight Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:26:45pm |
SNL doesn't start for another hour out here, but from what i saw in the last thread I think I'll skip it
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:26:59pm |
re: #28 non-lib Nina
From lurking on her forum, it looks like alot of the Hills girls are jumping ship and coming to our side! :)
My friend was going to vote Nader, but I convinced McCain is right for issues she's concerned about.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:27:07pm |
re: #17 SpartanWoman
Congratulations on your conversion powers!
;)
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:28:09pm |
re: #32 SpartanWoman
My friend was going to vote Nader, but I convinced McCain is right for issues she's concerned about.
Way to go! Gotta keep 'em coming, we can do it!
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:28:44pm |
re: #33 Irene NYC
Congratulations on your conversion powers!
;)
Actually I told her to google Obama and Khalidi and the rest was easy
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Karridine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:29:38pm |
re: #16 Racer X
The Vote Reaper
Excellent! Click some of his others, like "Why I'm a Conservative Republican!"
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x-wing Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:30:08pm |
re: #30 JeremiahRight
SNL doesn't start for another hour out here, but from what i saw in the last thread I think I'll skip it
Good idea. Punching yourself in the face would be less painful.
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Cognito Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:30:12pm |
Hey, what a great quote.
Have to admit I don't know Lin Yutang.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:30:15pm |
re: #29 Irene NYC
.....and Hockey Night in Canada after the baseball game.
....and some Boston College/Virginia Tech football when TBS was airing reruns of The Steve Harvey Show FOR THE FIRST TWO INNINGS!
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x-wing Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:30:42pm |
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:31:15pm |
re: #21 newsjunkie_ky
Zombie,
I emailed your link and heard back from kaintuck. He said to tell you Hi and he forwarded it to his list.
Soon it will be everywhere.
Tell kaintuck: Thx!
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:31:16pm |
re: #39 Fenway_Nation
We were f*ckin' watching the worst episode of SNL evah.
(except for Sarah Palin)
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Racer X Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:34:16pm |
re: #43 wolfie
Darth Nader!
"Why is it you liberals think you can make the Kool-Aid sweeter by adding more water"?
Classic!
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:34:32pm |
re: #3 zombie
Already up to 20 blog links to my Ayers review photo. That was FAST!
I love the heck out of you, Zombie. You just totally rock.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:35:49pm |
re: #36 Karridine
Excellent! Click some of his others, like "Why I'm a Conservative Republican!"
Excellent! I added to my Youtube playlist!
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BHJets Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:37:23pm |
Wish one of the 527's would come out with an ad contrasting Joe The Plumber with Bill The Bomber.
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JohnAdams Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:38:50pm |
I've met many regular hard working people who have fallen under the spell of The One. Classic case of the emotional knee-jerk reaction.
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hermeneutics Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:40:49pm |
Good evening, Lizards
Did anyone see Palin on SNL? If yes, please describe in 100 words or less.
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Palandine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:41:14pm |
re: #9 Irene NYC
zombie,
repost from last thread:
Then there's the question about how Obama got his review into the paper. Did Ayers ask Obama to write it? Did Obama offer to write it for Ayers? Who knew the editor of the book review to get this review placed or was the book review editor another lefty who was friends with Ayers? Etc. Etc. Etc.
That's interesting. Why would anybody care what a lowly state senator had to say about a book? Why was Obama's quote included? Zombie's right, we'll never know.
/That's the CHICAGO way
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stevieray Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:41:19pm |
The way to damage Obama with the Ayers connection is not through Ayers' Weather Underground history, as bad as it is, but through his current belief in "continuing the revolution through education".
Ayers wants communism to be spread via the school system, and Obama helped him spread it through the CAC.
The vast majority of Americans do not want their children to be propagandized in their schools.
This connection will resonate.
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Intrepid Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:41:38pm |
I like the rotating title - "There is no hell. There is only France".
Heh.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:41:49pm |
re: #49 hermeneutics
Good evening, Lizards
Did anyone see Palin on SNL? If yes, please describe in 100 words or less.
to repeat:
We were f*ckin' watching the worst episode of SNL evah.
(except for Sarah Palin)
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hermeneutics Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:43:28pm |
re: #53 Irene NYC
to repeat:
We were f*ckin' watching the worst episode of SNL evah.
(except for Sarah Palin)
Oh no! What happened?
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:44:56pm |
re: #50 Palandine
That's interesting. Why would anybody care what a lowly state senator had to say about a book? Why was Obama's quote included? Zombie's right, we'll never know.
/That's the CHICAGO way
From what I've gleaned, the book review editor chooses which books get reviewed, and for the "in short" reviews might ask someone who is a noted expert, or a professional journalist who, say, needs the dough that's a friend. I just find it kind of strange that the editor asked Obama to review it OR that Obama asked the editor to review it. What that says to me is that the editor, Obama and Ayers were all pretty closely connected. The publisher was probably connected too.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:44:56pm |
re: #48 JohnAdams
I've met many regular hard working people who have fallen under the spell of The One. Classic case of the emotional knee-jerk reaction.
I have a co-worker who is 28 and she thinks BO is the messiah. WTF, all her friends and family think the same way. Naive is all I can think of and the thing that really bugs me is she has a job, pays taxes, goes to church and believes in the conservative values and yet she "claims" to be a democrat. She does not even know what the h*ll she is talking about and is so competitive that no one could ever win a conversation with her if they tried. You know the type~always right. Naive girl.
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Colonel Panik Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:44:59pm |
As I said on the last thread, Saturday Night Live, like Francisco Franco, is still dead.
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JohnAdams Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:45:52pm |
re: #51 stevieray
The way to damage Obama with the Ayers connection is not through Ayers' Weather Underground history, as bad as it is, but through his current belief in "continuing the revolution through education".
Ayers wants communism to be spread via the school system, and Obama helped him spread it through the CAC.
The vast majority of Americans do not want their children to be propagandized in their schools.
This connection will resonate.
True. The fact that Ayers is not in jail, but is in fact "educating" our youth is the real troubling idea. Our country's colleges are full of professors who think likewise. Makes me think seriously about sending my $150 K to put my kid through college.
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Inquisitive Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:45:53pm |
re: #54 hermeneutics
Oh no! What happened?
it was SNL......nothing more needs to be said......several of us realized once again why we no longer watch it......
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x-wing Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:45:57pm |
re: #49 hermeneutics
Good evening, Lizards
Did anyone see Palin on SNL? If yes, please describe in 100 words or less.
Worst SNL evah. Sarah looked well though.
/how's that.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:45:57pm |
Secretary of State John Kerry.
/there's something to look forward to
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:08pm |
re: #56 non-lib Nina
Your friend's been mesmerized.
Seriously.
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:12pm |
re: #51 stevieray
The way to damage Obama with the Ayers connection is not through Ayers' Weather Underground history, as bad as it is, but through his current belief in "continuing the revolution through education".
Ayers wants communism to be spread via the school system, and Obama helped him spread it through the CAC.
The vast majority of Americans do not want their children to be propagandized in their schools.
This connection will resonate.
BINGO!
I was cogitating exactly how to drive this point home somehow, in a big way.
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Palandine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:19pm |
re: #32 SpartanWoman
My friend was going to vote Nader, but I convinced McCain is right for issues she's concerned about.
I'm watching the 18-year-old daughter of a friend of mine next week, and her mom's told me she's looking forward to casting her first vote for Obama. I'm going to try to change her mind, but verrrry gently. Don't want to hurt her youthful idealism, but she's a smart cookie and I hope I can show her why McCain is a better choice.
/Palandine's cast her first vote ever for Clinton in 1992, so if my friend's daughter chooses...poorly...I'm not one to judge
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ACJohn Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:27pm |
re: #55 Irene NYC
Great points any chance they have the same agent, publisher...
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:42pm |
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BakaRanger Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:46:43pm |
Zombie, can you tell me what kind of camera that you use for your field work? I just bought a Minolta digital for about $350 and the resulting pictures are no where close to the quality of yours. Thanks.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:47:03pm |
re: #41 zombie
Zombie,
You may want to consider putting the title of each story in a color. I have friends who don't know that most of the time titles are permalinks.
And in some blogs, like No Oil for Pacifists and Ace of Spades, the title aren't the permalinks.
If something is in color, people know it's a link.
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hermeneutics Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:47:08pm |
re: #63 zombie
BINGO!
I was cogitating exactly how to drive this point home somehow, in a big way.
Oh, Zombie -- I sent a copy of your image as well as a link to your blog to Drudge. We'll see...
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pat Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:47:45pm |
What do you want to bet Ayers wrote the review and had his friend Obama sign off?
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:47:47pm |
re: #61 Killian Bundy
Secretary of State John Kerry.
/there's something to look forward to
Ay caramba! The party suddenly falls silent. A nauseating thought.
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Jimmah Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:47:56pm |
re: #51 stevieray
The way to damage Obama with the Ayers connection is not through Ayers' Weather Underground history, as bad as it is, but through his current belief in "continuing the revolution through education".
Ayers wants communism to be spread via the school system, and Obama helped him spread it through the CAC.
The vast majority of Americans do not want their children to be propagandized in their schools.
This connection will resonate.
Definitely. This apparent meeting of minds is far more disturbing than the mere association.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:48:25pm |
If any lizards have some spare time, go to Amazon and write a nasty review of Ayers' books. Call him a terrorist - whatever. Say he can't write for shit. The book that zombie is reporting on today has FIVE stars!
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:48:34pm |
re: #62 Irene NYC
Your friend's been mesmerized.
Seriously.
Yeah, she really is not my friend, just my co-worker. If she thinks BO is the messiah, she "ain't" no one I want to be friends with! I just have to put up with her sh*t 40 hours a week. :(
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:49:25pm |
re: #63 zombie
BINGO!
I was cogitating exactly how to drive this point home somehow, in a big way.
zombie,
Have you seen Ayers' recent speech on education that he gave in Venezuela on this point?
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Metal Man Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:49:27pm |
re: #49 hermeneutics
Yes the opening was Tina Fey impersonating Sarah. Switch to Sarah and that dork that owns SNL discussing how accurate Tina is. then one of the Baldwin brothers walks up and disses Sarah thinking she's Tina. All fairly lame but Sarah shines IMHO gotta see it to get it. And don't bother looking for the next 20 seconds where Sarah just sets up a lame rap sketch.
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Penguinchic Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:49:46pm |
This might not be anything but I did a search on Ayers and Obama in google books. I found this book. A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court - Page 82, by William Ayers from that page this quote - Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and writer Barack Obama.
I thought there would be more, but he is just describing his neighborhood. But there is several more sentences about Farrakhan as well. Maybe there is more than I think.
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M. Bensson-Levi Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:49:53pm |
re: #51 stevieray
The way to damage Obama with the Ayers connection is not through Ayers' Weather Underground history, as bad as it is, but through his current belief in "continuing the revolution through education".
Ayers wants communism to be spread via the school system, and Obama helped him spread it through the CAC.
The vast majority of Americans do not want their children to be propagandized in their schools.
This connection will resonate.
Bravo! BRAVO! You've got that exactly right! Ayers past bombings clearly show his attitude about America, and his utter ruthlessness, but the current danger that he presents is precisely what you have noted: his "war by other means" education/indoctrination of America's children.
Excellent post!
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Odinga Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:49:59pm |
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
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x-wing Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:50:32pm |
re: #72 Jimmah
Definitely. This apparent meeting of minds is far more disturbing than the mere association.
So we need to goad Ayers into a Jack Nickolson "you can't handle the truth" moment?
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:51:41pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
Hmmm, I wonder what it could be? The plot thickens.
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hermeneutics Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:51:45pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
GREAT NEWS!
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Odinga Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:52:01pm |
I can feel it in my Bones. McCain/Palin are going to take this thing.
"If that trend continues, it is something that has got to raise red flags for Obama," Zogby said. "It suggests to me that his outward look of confidence may be as much strategy as it is real."
Nobama Plummets Among Independents
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:52:45pm |
re: #73 Irene NYC
If any lizards have some spare time, go to Amazon and write a nasty review of Ayers' books. Call him a terrorist - whatever. Say he can't write for shit. The book that zombie is reporting on today has FIVE stars!
I'm sorry, even knowing the book is a piece of Red Crap and a communist trojan horse for schools,
I disagree with writing any reviews unless you have read some of it.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:53:17pm |
I have a co-worker who is an Obamaniac. We are both political geeks and have enjoyed a couple of good IM arguments.
I think I undercut her elitist rant a bit. She admits she is an elitist - she went to private schools. She went on and on about how the elite should rule and the hoi polloi are stupid.
I gently said - I went to public schools and state colleges. You know I'm not stupid (she calls me for help on hard tax and cost basis questions) - she does know that. It's just that she WANTS to think the elite are somehow endowed to rule the peons.
She also is aware that her youth is at work here, but she just can't help herself.
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:54:05pm |
re: #64 Palandine
I guess it depends on what issue is important to them. For my friend it was terrorism. For another colleague it was Israel and for yet another it was taxes.
Young people are frequently only half aware of why they like a popular figure whether the figure is a pol or a singer or another sort of celeb. Maybe it is a herd mentality, who knows.
I would suggest you discover her favorite issue and go there.
In 1976 I was besotted with the Dem Convention and the "why not the best?" Carter crap. Fortunately, my uncle Frank talked to me about "Mr. Peanut" and his policies. I voted Ford. At the time it was NOT the policy chat that dissuaded me, it was the ridicule in my uncle's voice. Not ridiculing me, but calling Carter "Mr. Peanut". 18 year olds cave when an iconoclast shatters their false gods
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:54:59pm |
re: #64 Palandine
I'm watching the 18-year-old daughter of a friend of mine next week, and her mom's told me she's looking forward to casting her first vote for Obama. I'm going to try to change her mind, but verrrry gently. Don't want to hurt her youthful idealism, but she's a smart cookie and I hope I can show her why McCain is a better choice.
/Palandine's cast her first vote ever for Clinton in 1992, so if my friend's daughter chooses...poorly...I'm not one to judge
My first vote was for - gulp - McGovern.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:55:20pm |
Ayers' in Venezuela for the World Education Forum, November 2006.
An excerpt from this link if you haven't already seen it:
This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I’ve come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle—I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane. Thank you, Luis, for everything you’ve done.
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Archimedes Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:55:20pm |
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:55:27pm |
re: #67 BakaRanger
Zombie, can you tell me what kind of camera that you use for your field work? I just bought a Minolta digital for about $350 and the resulting pictures are no where close to the quality of yours. Thanks.
Sorry, that is highly classified information. If my enemies knew what camera I used, they'd know what to look for. Hence, my need to keep it secret.
Though I will say: It isn't a Minolta. (Though, in an odd coincidence, the microfilm machine I used today was a Minolta!)
Another secret: The quality of the original raw photo is only half the story. It's what you do afterwards to it that makes it look presentable. (i.e adjusting contrast or brightness, cropping off extraneous edges, etc.) My camera often under-exposes or over-exposes images, and occasionally I'll have to try to subtly adjust the "gamma" and stuff like that so it isn't so dark-looking. I'm actually a rank amateur at sprucing up photo quality, and I don't have the right software. News editors and pro photographers do it routinely on every photo, which is one reason they look so good.
Another secret: I usually take 2 or 3 or 27 versions of every photo, to make sure I get a good one!
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:56:08pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Conservatives can recognize a greater evil and will do what must be done. I have disagreements with McCain but I will support him. Leftists OTOH, are fickle and won't be able to keep momentum going in the face of doubts. Getting them to actually show up and vote is also problematic.
I can't WAIT for the finger-pointing sh*tstorm meltdown the left will have when they lose. I'll be drunk for days.
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:56:33pm |
What strikes me is Joe is in no way an "Obama team member." He's really just "that guy." Obama could have picked someone just somewhat more relevant.. but it wouldn't work alongside the Messiah. Afterall, there can only be One.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:56:40pm |
re: #63 zombie
BINGO!
I was cogitating exactly how to drive this point home somehow, in a big way.
Connect it all under the umbrella of socialism. Ayers, Wright, radicals, Union Card Checks, ACORN, income redistribution, nanny state, teachers unions taking over the schools, the financial crisis and the affirmative action mortgages, rising health care costs... you name it.
Even liberals hate the term socialism.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:56:42pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
God bless you. I can now go to bed on an up note.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:56:59pm |
re: #84 astronmr20
I'm sorry, even knowing the book is a piece of Red Crap and a communist trojan horse for schools,
I disagree with writing any reviews unless you have read some of it.
I know professional book reviewers who haven't even read the books they were reviewing. Go read the little excerpts available on Amazon if that would make you feel better.
;)
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:57:22pm |
re: #93 esch
Conservatives can recognize a greater evil and will do what must be done. I have disagreements with McCain but I will support him. Leftists OTOH, are fickle and won't be able to keep momentum going in the face of doubts. Getting them to actually show up and vote is also problematic.
I can't WAIT for the finger-pointing sh*tstorm meltdown the left will have when they lose. I'll be drunk for days.
Oh Gawd, me too! You have no idea.
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:57:37pm |
re: #68 HelloDare
Zombie,
You may want to consider putting the title of each story in a color. I have friends who don't know that most of the time titles are permalinks.
And in some blogs, like No Oil for Pacifists and Ace of Spades, the title aren't the permalinks.
If something is in color, people know it's a link.
Hmmmmm. I'll ponder it, but I suspect I won't have the time to figure out how to change the color! It's part of the blog template, which is a mysterious region to me.
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Intrepid Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:57:38pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
What I find heartening (I try not to rely on the polls but DAMMIT! it's hard not to sometimes) is that McCain's support among republicans is up to 9 out of 10. Maybe repubs are waking up and realizing that they just cannot wish their way into a Romney or Thompson presidency. And they're seeing what an Obama presidency would do to the country.
But the loss of 8 points among independents for Obama is significant. Let's hope that is the beginning of a trend, and not just a post-debate bump.
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:58:43pm |
re: #69 hermeneutics
Oh, Zombie -- I sent a copy of your image as well as a link to your blog to Drudge. We'll see...
That's at least 10 emails to Drudge. Let's cross our fingers!
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:59:01pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
Did they poll the guy in Texas who was registered 72 times?
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:59:14pm |
re: #75 Irene NYC
zombie,
Have you seen Ayers' recent speech on education that he gave in Venezuela on this point?
No!
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SpartanWoman Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:59:18pm |
re: #100 Intrepid
But the msm said Obama WON the debate, if they were right it would be Obama who got the fist-bump here.
I think it is the communist bump, the recognition that maybe Obama is truly too risky.
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stevieray Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:59:23pm |
How did it get so late?
Time to kick the cat off of my pillow... where she is sleeping, and shedding exuberantly... and go to bed.
Goodnight!
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BHJets Sat, Oct 18, 2008 10:59:51pm |
re: #93 esch
I always take the day after election day off. Gonna have a case of Sam Adams on ice this year. Either celebrating or drowning my sorrows.
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devnulled Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:26pm |
re: #3 zombie
I think this is coming up on just over four years of appreciation now, since I first laid eyes on your work... (stands up on desk)...
O Captain My Captain.
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rain of lead Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:29pm |
re: #99 zombie
Hmmmmm. I'll ponder it, but I suspect I won't have the time to figure out how to change the color! It's part of the blog template, which is a mysterious region to me.
Z, just ask Charles, I'll bet he could give you an answer in about.... two seconds
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:31pm |
zombie,
I should not have said recent re Ayers' speech. It was November 2006. But, it's still very much to the point. I linked it above.
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mikalm Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:33pm |
Zombie,
Great catch on the Obama review! I haven't been on LGF much lately -- too busy with other things -- but I check in every now and then, and am impressed by your forays into investigative journalism.
Got a hot tip for you -- will email it within the next five minutes, if you're still online.
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:35pm |
re: #92 zombie
Sorry, that is highly classified information. If my enemies knew what camera I used, they'd know what to look for. Hence, my need to keep it secret.
Though I will say: It isn't a Minolta. (Though, in an odd coincidence, the microfilm machine I used today was a Minolta!)
Another secret: The quality of the original raw photo is only half the story. It's what you do afterwards to it that makes it look presentable. (i.e adjusting contrast or brightness, cropping off extraneous edges, etc.) My camera often under-exposes or over-exposes images, and occasionally I'll have to try to subtly adjust the "gamma" and stuff like that so it isn't so dark-looking. I'm actually a rank amateur at sprucing up photo quality, and I don't have the right software. News editors and pro photographers do it routinely on every photo, which is one reason they look so good.
Another secret: I usually take 2 or 3 or 27 versions of every photo, to make sure I get a good one!
Incredible. Zombie is using micro-film machines to dig up truth-- just like real journalists used to do in the movies!
It's amazing.. when one thinks about the combined salaries of, and resources related to journalists covering this election and these two men.. both in Chicago and nationally.. people that Good 'ole Zombie is doing all of their collective jobs together!
Actually, it's not so amazing. It's what I would expect for such a fine undead gumshoe.
Well, I hope you used a surname when signing in to check out the film!
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Palandine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:45pm |
re: #77 Penguinchic
This might not be anything but I did a search on Ayers and Obama in google books. I found this book. A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court - Page 82, by William Ayers from that page this quote - Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and writer Barack Obama.
I thought there would be more, but he is just describing his neighborhood. But there is several more sentences about Farrakhan as well. Maybe there is more than I think.
My tiny effort (I don't have a blog, so can't spread it myself):
There's been some interest in a woman named Vera Baker who currently lives in Martinique. The PUMAs and others note that she's sometimes referred to as Obama's "campaign manager" when he was running for the Senate. Sometimes another woman is named as his campaign manager.
When you look at Google Books for the name, you get a page for a fundraiser for Obama for Senate where people are asked to RSVP to Ms. Baker for Obama for Illinois.
Funny how no hard-hitting investigative journalist has asked his boss for travel money to Martinique to discuss Ms. Baker's experiences as Obama's campaign manager with her, or what caused her to move to Martinique.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:00:49pm |
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George guy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:01:00pm |
I predict a November 5 Kos diary to say something to the effect of this:
"Anyone who looks happy today is fair game."
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:01:28pm |
Zogby for Sunday:
Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Poll: Obama 47.8%, McCain 45.1%
McCain slowly gains on Obama
UTICA, New York - Republican John McCain continued a slow advance on Democrat Barack Obama in the race for President, moving back within three percentage points as the race begins to head down the stretch run, the latest Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby daily tracking poll shows.
McCain now trails Obama by 2.7 points, down from the 3.9 point deficit he faced 24 hours earlier.
Seven-point-one percent of the likely voters surveyed said they remain undecided.
Obama lost five-tenths of a point from yesterday's report, while McCain gained another six-tenths of a point. It was the third consecutive day in which Obama's numbers slipped and McCain's numbers increased.
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Intrepid Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:02:01pm |
BTW - that show on Body Language is now on again on the History Channel. Someone mentioned it in an earlier thread, I forgot who it was.
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:02:15pm |
re: #79 Odinga
Fellow Lizards,
I bring a ray of hope. Obama Plummets Among Independents
"For the first time in the polling McCain is up above 45 percent. There is no question something has happened," Zogby said.
Dig this quote from Zogby:
"If that trend continues, it is something that has got to raise red flags for Obama," Zogby said. "It suggests to me that his outward look of confidence may be as much strategy as it is real."
Could it be that Zogby read my "Left's Big Blunder" essay, in which I make a similar point?
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:02:37pm |
re: #100 Intrepid
What I find heartening (I try not to rely on the polls but DAMMIT! it's hard not to sometimes) is that McCain's support among republicans is up to 9 out of 10. Maybe repubs are waking up and realizing that they just cannot wish their way into a Romney or Thompson presidency. And they're seeing what an Obama presidency would do to the country.
But the loss of 8 points among independents for Obama is significant. Let's hope that is the beginning of a trend, and not just a post-debate bump.
I think also the night after the debate dinner was the best performance we have gotten in a while out of McCain. He looked relaxed and the jokes were awesome. His writers deserve kudos. He kicked BO's ars. If he could talk in that kind of forum all the time he would win hands down. Funny, funny, and it helped. Everyone was talking about how great it was and how boring the debate was, all except for Joe.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:03:55pm |
re: #101 zombie
That's at least 10 emails to Drudge. Let's cross our fingers!
I think it's a super scoop right up Drudge's alley. Got my fingers crossed.
One thing I really love about Drudge is he drives the liberals nuts. Some of the speculative lib articles I've read about him are really mindbenders - imagine spending time writing a piece on whether or not he loves Chaka Khan and what that might mean - typical example.
The other thing I love about him is he's how I found LGF.
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Odinga Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:04:10pm |
re: #81 non-lib Nina
Hmmm, I wonder what it could be? The plot thickens.
The Chickens are coming home to roost, and they are voting McCain/Palin baby.
By the way, Tina Fey looks like a squirrel when standing next to the real Arctic Fox Sarah.
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Intrepid Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:05:01pm |
re: #104 SpartanWoman
But the msm said Obama WON the debate, if they were right it would be Obama who got the fist-bump here.
I think it is the communist bump, the recognition that maybe Obama is truly too risky.
Yeah, that's true. That being the case, it's showing also that the indies aren't necessarily paying that much attention to the MSM. And that's a very good thing.
In early September we had the "Palin bounce". Then there was the "convention bounce". Maybe now we're seeing the "Joe the Plumber bounce".
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:05:32pm |
re: #85 Catttt
I have a co-worker who is an Obamaniac. We are both political geeks and have enjoyed a couple of good IM arguments.
I think I undercut her elitist rant a bit. She admits she is an elitist - she went to private schools. She went on and on about how the elite should rule and the hoi polloi are stupid.
I gently said - I went to public schools and state colleges. You know I'm not stupid (she calls me for help on hard tax and cost basis questions) - she does know that. It's just that she WANTS to think the elite are somehow endowed to rule the peons.
She also is aware that her youth is at work here, but she just can't help herself.
The Democrats' main failing is that they have stopped even pretending to be the "party of the working man" or even of the underclass. Everyone knows they're elitists, and that most elitists are Democrats. It used to be the reverse (or least they used to have a good claim on being the party of the lower/middle class). This may be their downfall (crossing fingers).
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:05:32pm |
re: #98 non-lib Nina
I'm going to save a collection of zerO(&spouse) and all the MSM's grimaces over the following 72 hours. It'll be beautiful.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:05:47pm |
Well, swell, I pay good money for what are arguably the world's best guitar stands, but does Kitten Bill care? HELL NO, it's just one more object with too much potential energy! And does Kitten Bill topple the worthless Strat clone? HELL NO, he goes right for the big bucks and dumps the Les Paul!
/fortunately, by some [expletive deleted] miracle, the Les Paul is undamaged but Kitten Bill is totally out of control
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:06:22pm |
re: #118 non-lib Nina
I think also the night after the debate dinner was the best performance we have gotten in a while out of McCain. He looked relaxed and the jokes were awesome. His writers deserve kudos. He kicked BO's ars. If he could talk in that kind of forum all the time he would win hands down. Funny, funny, and it helped. Everyone was talking about how great it was and how boring the debate was, all except for Joe.
It was fantastic. Also, consider, the most disparaging thing about it to Obama (though comedy) is that really, he wasn't even addressing or speaking about Obama the rest of the time. He was speaking "over" Obama's head, referring to the real "big guns;" the giants of the party (the Clintons), and how that affected Obama's campaign. He had Hillary in stiches, which also said a LOT. Truth is comedy!
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Metal Man Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:06:46pm |
re: #85 Catttt
I am pretty much one of the Hoi Polloi but have been given responsibility. Not all that sure I want the responsibility but will not give it up to the supposedly better educated. Peoples jobs and lives depend on me making the right choices and my betters know nothing of the consequences since it's all just theory to them. Things would likely run just fine without me but if it went to shit I just don't have confidence the management would have a clue.
Maybe I'm fooling myself so I have can feel important but I'm guessing this country would grind to a halt without the Hoi Polloi.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:08:05pm |
re: #123 esch
I'm going to save a collection of zerO(&spouse) and all the MSM's grimaces over the following 72 hours. It'll be beautiful.
We'll be waiting!
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:08:11pm |
I'm guessing this country would grind to a halt without the Hoi Polloi.
Indeed.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:08:56pm |
re: #126 Metal Man
I'm guessing this country would grind to a halt without the Hoi Polloi.
What country?
;)
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Palandine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:09:06pm |
re: #86 SpartanWoman
I guess it depends on what issue is important to them. For my friend it was terrorism. For another colleague it was Israel and for yet another it was taxes.
Young people are frequently only half aware of why they like a popular figure whether the figure is a pol or a singer or another sort of celeb. Maybe it is a herd mentality, who knows.
I would suggest you discover her favorite issue and go there.
In 1976 I was besotted with the Dem Convention and the "why not the best?" Carter crap. Fortunately, my uncle Frank talked to me about "Mr. Peanut" and his policies. I voted Ford. At the time it was NOT the policy chat that dissuaded me, it was the ridicule in my uncle's voice. Not ridiculing me, but calling Carter "Mr. Peanut". 18 year olds cave when an iconoclast shatters their false gods
The kid is very questioning and honest. I expect she actually has a reason she's voting Obama, unlike many who are hoping for the change of the hope of the change. I'm going to start from there, and go with WHY I'm voting McCain/Palin. No dissing of her choice. No saying anything bad about Obama. Just giving my reasons. I respect her too much to do otherwise.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:09:19pm |
re: #118 non-lib Nina
I think also the night after the debate dinner was the best performance we have gotten in a while out of McCain.
McCain was wonderful at the dinner!
I dug up Obama's speech and he was not well received. The guy is a cold bastard and he can't hide it even when he's trying to be funny.
As an example, Obama ridiculed McCain for being old in Obama's speech. "Old" jokes are only funny as SELF-deprecating humor (as Ronald Reagan used to do) and not as mean-spirited ridiculing. It was as cold as if someone had ridiculed Obama for being black.
The NY Democrats in the room cheered very warmly when McCain said that he knew that some of them were pulling for him to win. Obama did not impress this crowd.
One other thing is that when McCain said something like "If I pull this off, it will be a long night for MSNBC" - Brian Williams raised his hand in acknowledgement (if anyone wondered if he was there) but he looked embarassed for MSNBC (AS WELL HE SHOULD!)
John McCain is a better person than Obambi will ever be. It showed that night and a lot of Democrats got to see it, too. Judging by their warmer response to McCain than to Obambi, I hope a few things clicked in their heads (at least on some level.)
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:09:36pm |
re: #125 astronmr20
It was fantastic. Also, consider, the most disparaging thing about it to Obama (though comedy) is that really, he wasn't even addressing or speaking about Obama the rest of the time. He was speaking "over" Obama's head, referring to the real "big guns;" the giants of the party (the Clintons), and how that affected Obama's campaign. He had Hillary in stiches, which also said a LOT. Truth is comedy!
If we could get another one of those before the election, damn this thing would be in the bag!
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:09:50pm |
re: #90 Irene NYC
Ayers' in Venezuela for the World Education Forum, November 2006.
An excerpt from this link if you haven't already seen it:
EXCELLENT!
People are stuck on Ayers being a "terrorist" (which he is). But he's something even worse: He's also a Communist. And not a metaphorical lower-case "c" communist but a dyed-in-the-wool hardcore Revolutionary Communist, who is going the Grasmsci route (infiltrate the schools) after the violence route failed.
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Palandine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:09:52pm |
re: #124 Killian Bundy
Well, swell, I pay good money for what are arguably the world's best guitar stands, but does Kitten Bill care? HELL NO, it's just one more object with too much potential energy! And does Kitten Bill topple the worthless Strat clone? HELL NO, he goes right for the big bucks and dumps the Les Paul!
/fortunately, by some [expletive deleted] miracle, the Les Paul is undamaged but Kitten Bill is totally out of control
Haven't you had that kitteh's nuts cut off YET?
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:10:14pm |
Truly, though.. I am fearful of an Obama presidency, but also quite fearful of what might transpire in the hours and days afterwards if McCain wins.
I'm talking about moonbats. Yes, we joke around here about their heads exploding, but you'd better wear a raincoat wednesday morning if that's the case.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:10:43pm |
re: #131 Adina in Judea
Yes, Brian Williams definitely looked embarrassed. Agreed.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:11:37pm |
re: #134 Palandine
Haven't you had that kitteh's nuts cut off YET?
/making the arrangements Monday, enough is enough
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:11:51pm |
re: #131 Adina in Judea
McCain was wonderful at the dinner!
I dug up Obama's speech and he was not well received. The guy is a cold bastard and he can't hide it even when he's trying to be funny.
As an example, Obama ridiculed McCain for being old in Obama's speech. "Old" jokes are only funny as SELF-deprecating humor (as Ronald Reagan used to do) and not as mean-spirited ridiculing. It was as cold as if someone had ridiculed Obama for being black.
The NY Democrats in the room cheered very warmly when McCain said that he knew that some of them were pulling for him to win. Obama did not impress this crowd.
One other thing is that when McCain said something like "If I pull this off, it will be a long night for MSNBC" - Brian Williams raised his hand in acknowledgement (if anyone wondered if he was there) but he looked embarassed for MSNBC (AS WELL HE SHOULD!)
John McCain is a better person than Obambi will ever be. It showed that night and a lot of Democrats got to see it, too. Judging by their warmer response to McCain than to Obambi, I hope a few things clicked in their heads (at least on some level.)
BO looked like he was in pain the whole night, he did not have a teleprompter!
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solomonpanting Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:12:34pm |
re: #122 zombie
The Democrats' main failing is that they have stopped even pretending to be the "party of the working man" or even of the underclass. Everyone knows they're elitists, and that most elitists are Democrats. It used to be the reverse (or least they used to have a good claim on being the party of the lower/middle class). This may be their downfall (crossing fingers).
I, too, despise the Dem mantra of being "for the little guy." But the lefties having taken over the party lends historical weight to their claim. "Workers of the world unite!"
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:12:48pm |
re: #107 devnulled
I think this is coming up on just over four years of appreciation now, since I first laid eyes on your work... (stands up on desk)...
O Captain My Captain.
I demote myself! I ain't no captain. This ship is a collective!
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:12:49pm |
It showed that night and a lot of Democrats got to see it, too. Judging by their warmer response to McCain than to Obambi, I hope a few things clicked in their heads (at least on some level.)
Those democrats there that night are the intelligentsia of the party. They may be Democrats, but I can guarantee you they respect the man McCain a hell of a lot more than this Johnny-come-lately Messiah.
They know what's up.
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Scion9 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:13:25pm |
re: #51 stevieray
The vast majority of Americans do not want their children to be propagandized in their schools.This connection will resonate.
You are right, they do not. The really scary thing?
The education project described in the Web ad, far from being "radical," had the support of the Republican governor and was run by a board that included prominent local leaders, including one Republican who has donated $1,500 to McCain's campaign this year. The project is described by Education Week as reflecting "mainstream thinking" about school reform.
Indoctrinating children with socialist beliefs if definitely very 'mainstream' now.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:13:33pm |
re: #133 zombie
It's a very scary piece. Ayers turned to terrorism because education wasn't working fast enough to bring down capitalism.
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:14:04pm |
re: #110 mikalm
Zombie,
Great catch on the Obama review! I haven't been on LGF much lately -- too busy with other things -- but I check in every now and then, and am impressed by your forays into investigative journalism.
Got a hot tip for you -- will email it within the next five minutes, if you're still online.
I'll look for it.
Too bad I missed the Nude Olympics! From what I could gather, however, it didn't amount to much.
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solomonpanting Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:14:20pm |
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:14:42pm |
re: #138 non-lib Nina
I thought he kept looking around with an expression of 'isn't this when they're supposed to laugh?'
I have such contempt for this presumptuous man-child. It's a shame the first real candidate the black community put up is a tool.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:14:47pm |
Obama has a lot of threads hanging from his clothes ready for a hard tug. A lot of people have heard about Ayres but don't know that much about him. Same with Rezko, Wright, and Obama's elitism, and now ACORN. All it would take is one good iconic story to hit, something that would highlight what people already suspect and Obama might unravel.
If that office on the third floor were the exact same office that Ayers used -- the very same space. That would be great. We just don't know. They could have had offices on opposite ends of the 3rd floor. We just don't know.
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rain of lead Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:15:10pm |
re: #134 Palandine
Haven't you had that kitteh's nuts cut off YET?
it takes a few months for the testostorone to get out of their system
and to calm down
have a wild kitten/cat who got clipped 6 wks ago
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Rancher Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:15:14pm |
Good night, off to bed. I have to get up and be Joe tomorrow.
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:15:14pm |
re: #84 astronmr20
I'm sorry, even knowing the book is a piece of Red Crap and a communist trojan horse for schools,
I disagree with writing any reviews unless you have read some of it.
Second. No offense to the OP, but I was disappointed to hear the suggestion to spam Amazon.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:15:35pm |
zombie,
What I meant was you said he turned to education after terrorism. I think it was education before AND after terrorism. Just that when he was just a fine young revolutionary, the education route proved too slow.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:15:35pm |
re: #138 non-lib Nina
BO looked like he was in pain the whole night, he did not have a teleprompter!
True!
BO is used to being fainted over with tingles going up legs just for showing up.
He was in a room filled with NY Democrats and he couldn't impress them.
BO is a megalomaniac who is running for himself and no one else.
I hope some Democrats are finally figuring this out.
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Metal Man Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:16:04pm |
re: #140 zombie
I demote myself! I ain't no captain. This ship is a collective!
Odd isn't it, that a collective can actually thrive up until the point where a government forces one to join.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:16:29pm |
re: #140 zombie
I demote myself! I ain't no captain. This ship is a collective!
Goodness zombie, you are an original.
Collective? We're just the chorus. Get over it.
;)
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:16:56pm |
re: #147 HelloDare
All it would take is one good iconic story to hit, something that would highlight what people already suspect and Obama might unravel.
I feel dirty saying this, but I would relish watching a total meltdown on his part. The riots afterward, not so much.
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:17:30pm |
re: #139 solomonpanting
I, too, despise the Dem mantra of being "for the little guy." But the lefties having taken over the party lends historical weight to their claim. "Workers of the world unite!"
One of my ongoing frustrations (if "infuriations" was a word I'd use that) is hearing people interviewed after a debate or speech, and they say, "I just got the sense that Obama really cares about common Americans. I didn't get that from McCain."
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zombie Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:17:40pm |
re: #111 astronmr20
Incredible. Zombie is using micro-film machines to dig up truth-- just like real journalists used to do in the movies!
It's amazing.. when one thinks about the combined salaries of, and resources related to journalists covering this election and these two men.. both in Chicago and nationally.. people that Good 'ole Zombie is doing all of their collective jobs together!
Actually, it's not so amazing. It's what I would expect for such a fine undead gumshoe.
Well, I hope you used a surname when signing in to check out the film!
Are you kidding? There's no way I would give any librarian my name. I purposely sought out a library where patrons could use the microfilms without needing a card or giving one's name. I saw what the media did to Joe the Plumber! I'm taking extra careful steps. All citizen journalism must be done totally anonymously.
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pat Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:18:20pm |
Maybe it is time for the GOP to show who the Dems are. Big business that want to be oligopolies or monopolies. Hollywood. The super rich that think American law and order has been bad for war. The idealists that think their pitiful philosophies will overcome rapaciousness. The Baldwin, Kennedy, etc. families that will know they will die in comfort while the country experiments with socialism. The racists minorities that wish to punish whites, other races and are imbued with the racial hatred of all others.
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boogereatinmoron Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:18:21pm |
re: #51 stevieray
I have been ranting along these same lines for weeks. The question is not: "why does Obama pal around with Ayers?" but: "why does Ayers pal around with Obama?"
Ayers was a terrorist whose objective was the overthrow of the American government and the establishment of a socialist state in it's place. He abandoned his methods but he has not, to my knowledge renounced his goals, he has simply changed tactics. It seems that he is now committed to change from within by promoting policies and politicians that will lead to the same ultimate objective and Obama is his man.
Oh by the way, Joe the plumber is on Huckabee. Go Joe.
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non-lib Nina Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:18:32pm |
re: #146 esch
"Finally my evil plan is working" (in my best Dr. Evil voice) Poor BO, He was like a little kid on the playground no one wanted to play kickball with.
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mikalm Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:19:07pm |
re: #144 zombie
I'll look for it.
Should be in your In-box now.
Too bad I missed the Nude Olympics! From what I could gather, however, it didn't amount to much.
So I heard as well. At least it was non-sexual, and held at an accepted "clothing-optional" beach, unlike the Folsom and Dore debaucheries. Recreational nudity is one thing -- open, public sex acts are definitely another.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:19:52pm |
re: #141 astronmr20
Those democrats there that night are the intelligentsia of the party. They may be Democrats, but I can guarantee you they respect the man McCain a hell of a lot more than this Johnny-come-lately Messiah.
They know what's up.
There was this very distinguished-looking older fellow sitting back behind the speaker's stand - he was over each speaker's left shoulder. During Senator McCain's bit, he was smiling, laughing, and relaxed. During Barry's, he barely moved his face at all. He was my barometer.
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itellu3times Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:20:52pm |
Good evening, lizards.
Just checking to vent, why must Obama waste his money in California showing these obnoxious, mendacious ads, when the whole state is in the bag for him already anyway? Just to depress me, I guess.
Come on, Drudge, link to the zombie.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:21:07pm |
re: #122 zombie
The Democrats' main failing is that they have stopped even pretending to be the "party of the working man" or even of the underclass. Everyone knows they're elitists, and that most elitists are Democrats. It used to be the reverse (or least they used to have a good claim on being the party of the lower/middle class). This may be their downfall (crossing fingers).
I hope so, too. Their attitude is disgusting.
Obama looked Joe the Plumber right in the eye on camera during the debate and promised that his policies would help Joe. Then Obama RIDICULED Joe the next day at his rallies. Obama ridiculed the idea of trying to help "A PLUMBER!" (as he kept putting it, as if helping a plumber in America is the most ridiculous thing in the world.)
Obama has stabbed hard working people in the back repeatedly in his campaign. He and the Democrats have nothing but contempt for most American voters.
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solomonpanting Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:21:12pm |
re: #156 scratch
One of my ongoing frustrations (if "infuriations" was a word I'd use that) is hearing people interviewed after a debate or speech, and they say, "I just got the sense that Obama really cares about common Americans. I didn't get that from McCain."
Probably the difference between listening with the heart and the mind.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:21:14pm |
re: #155 esch
I feel dirty saying this, but I would relish watching a total meltdown on his part. The riots afterward, not so much.
That reminds me - I need a pistol. Knife and two cats might not suffice.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:21:58pm |
re: #150 scratch
Second. No offense to the OP, but I was disappointed to hear the suggestion to spam Amazon.
That was me who suggested people write reviews stating that Ayers was a terrorist, etc. at Amazon
Yeah, getting news out about a piece of crap like Ayers is really awful. Especially when almost every news organ in the country refuses to say anything about his past. And especially when the fate of our country is literally at stake.
I'm so disappointed in myself for making that suggestion.
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TnTx13 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:22:11pm |
re: #159 boogereatinmoron
Oh by the way, Joe the plumber is on Huckabee. Go Joe.
Joe is great! If all those who are swooning over the Messiah would listen up to how the Messiah is treating this man, then maybe their eyes would open to the truth.
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TnTx13 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:23:01pm |
re: #165 Adina in Judea
I hope so, too. Their attitude is disgusting.
Obama looked Joe the Plumber right in the eye on camera during the debate and promised that his policies would help Joe. Then Obama RIDICULED Joe the next day at his rallies. Obama ridiculed the idea of trying to help "A PLUMBER!" (as he kept putting it, as if helping a plumber in America is the most ridiculous thing in the world.)
Obama has stabbed hard working people in the back repeatedly in his campaign. He and the Democrats have nothing but contempt for most American voters.
Just wait until Obama needs a plumber ;)
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:23:19pm |
re: #155 esch
I feel dirty saying this, but I would relish watching a total meltdown on his part. The riots afterward, not so much.
A real meltdown, Obama acting badly, would be a good thing. It would show him for the man that many of us suspect he is. He is a narcissist for sure. What type and to what degree is the only question. They do not handle defeat well.
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:23:22pm |
re: #157 zombie
...I purposely sought out a library where patrons could use the microfilms without needing a card or giving one's name. ...
Hopefully you also didn't walk in with your arms outstretched in front of you and your clothes hanging in tatters.
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:23:26pm |
re: #112 Palandine
What's REALLY weird is that Vera Baker had a partnership called Baker Wambu with a woman named Muthoni Wambu. They were political consultants on strategy and fundraising, and because they were Black women, most of their work came from members of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Vera Baker's work in fundraising for Obama you know about. But did you know that Muthoni Wambu became the deputy political director of Joe Biden's 2008 Presidential campaign?
And then Joe Biden, Mr. 1 Percent of the Primary Vote, Mr. Barack-Obama-Is-Clean-And-Articulate, gets the nod from Obama as his running mate. Doesn't that smell awfully fishy? Like maybe Biden asked Wambu to ask Baker to persuade Obama to pick Biden? Perhaps someone in Biden's campaign knew that Baker could be extremely persuasive with Barack for some reason.
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Inquisitive Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:24:19pm |
re: #135 astronmr20
Truly, though.. I am fearful of an Obama presidency, but also quite fearful of what might transpire in the hours and days afterwards if McCain wins.
I'm talking about moonbats. Yes, we joke around here about their heads exploding, but you'd better wear a raincoat wednesday morning if that's the case.
A friend and I were talking the other eve and was discussing that very issue.....but I brought up that I am also fearful of what might happen even if "that one" does win......look what fans are capable of doing when their team wins the super bowl or the world series. To me it could be a lose/ lose situation in some big cities.
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x-wing Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:25:17pm |
re: #106 BHJets
I always take the day after election day off. Gonna have a case of Sam Adams on ice this year. Either celebrating or drowning my sorrows.
I'm putting in vacation for Nov. 5 tomorrow. I was kicking it around today, but after everything that is happening ,it's game on.
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Scion9 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:25:40pm |
Sol Stern has done excellent work on discussing Ayers' ideology in regards to education 'reform', if you haven't read his article yet...
Obama's Real Bill Ayers Problem
The Bomber as School Reformer
Ayers Is No Education 'Reformer'
He's been chronicling this style of so-called education reform for a long time now, and has a book out on the subject of the failure of public schools, and is apparently writing another specifically on Bill Ayers and his brand of reform, according to the blurb in the WSJ Op-Ed linked above.
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:25:58pm |
re: #135 astronmr20
Truly, though.. I am fearful of an Obama presidency, but also quite fearful of what might transpire in the hours and days afterwards if McCain wins.
I'm talking about moonbats. Yes, we joke around here about their heads exploding, but you'd better wear a raincoat wednesday morning if that's the case.
Indeed. The day after McCain wins, the streets will be awash in giant puppet heads. That, and bare-breasted post-menopausal women in pink skirts and hats.
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Metal Man Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:26:03pm |
re: #167 Catttt
That reminds me - I need a pistol. Knife and two cats might not suffice.
That is one thing the commies make that may help you The CZ 52 or Makarov in a pistol or the AK in a rifle they are cheap and easy to care for.
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:26:21pm |
re: #163 itellu3times
...Come on, Drudge, link to the zombie.
It may be just a coincidence, but twice I have simply emailed juicy tidbits to "drudge at drudgereport dot com," and both times they appeared on his page within a short period of time.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:28:03pm |
re: #170 TnTx13
Just wait until Obama needs a plumber ;)
Plumbers make good money. The building trades are a great way for a working person to get a great career. One thing I love about Todd Palin is he's a working guy, and one of his pet projects in Alaska is helping people get apprenticeships in the trades.
I cringe when Barry opens his mouth about Joe, because he is so obviously looking down at the "little people." He is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that once you get a master's license, the sky's the limit.
I keep thinking of the movie Moonstruck, where Cher's dad was a VERY WEALTHY plumber.
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victor_yugo Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:28:09pm |
re: #167 Catttt
That reminds me - I need a pistol. Knife and two cats might not suffice.
Unless one cat is a lion and the other is a melanistic cougar.
/here kitty kitty
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x-wing Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:28:34pm |
re: #167 Catttt
That reminds me - I need a pistol. Knife and two cats might not suffice.
Going out Monday to purchase mass quantities of .45, .357, and 12 guage ammo.
/shh,don't tell anyone.
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:28:48pm |
re: #168 Irene NYC
That was me who suggested people write reviews stating that Ayers was a terrorist, etc. at Amazon
Yeah, getting news out about a piece of crap like Ayers is really awful. Especially when almost every news organ in the country refuses to say anything about his past. And especially when the fate of our country is literally at stake.
I'm so disappointed in myself for making that suggestion.
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Hi Irene. As I said, no offense intended, but "getting the news out" is not the issue. Spamming a website intended for book reviews is the issue.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:28:51pm |
re: #174 Inquisitive
.look what fans are capable of doing when their team wins the super bowl or the world series. To me it could be a lose/ lose situation in some big cities.
One thing we know for sure is that the Left is even worse at winning than they are at losing (because they do indeed see elections in terms of games where their pride is at stake.)
When they win, they're even bigger jerks than when they lose.
If people are looking to do some rioting in all this, it will be worse if Obama wins (G-d forbid.) One way or another, Obama's message in all this is division, wealth distribution, and property damage.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:29:05pm |
re: #179 scratch
It may be just a coincidence, but twice I have simply emailed juicy tidbits to "drudge at drudgereport dot com," and both times they appeared on his page within a short period of time.
Wow. Neato. I've e-mailed several times with no dice, but I have a good feeling about this time.
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FamHistoryGuy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:30:57pm |
re: #159 boogereatinmoron
Ayers realized that bombs were counter productive. Subverting the education system is more effective, even though it is a long term project.
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The Archivist Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:31:11pm |
HelloDare [#147]:
"If that office on the third floor were the exact same office that Ayers used -- the very same space. That would be great. We just don't know. They could have had offices on opposite ends of the 3rd floor. We just don't know."
Could someone living in that area go by the building on Monday and report back? Some office buildings are small and have but one or two offices per floor.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:31:11pm |
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:32:25pm |
re: #185 Catttt
Wow. Neato. I've e-mailed several times with no dice, but I have a good feeling about this time.
Most likely he either discovered it himself, or received several hundred emails in addition to mine.
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gmsc Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:33:14pm |
re: #61 Killian Bundy
Secretary of State John Kerry.
/there's something to look forward to
The U.S. has already said it didn't want Kerry as president, so having him 4th in line to the presidency is very unsettling.
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Catttt Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:33:16pm |
re: #181 victor_yugo
Unless one cat is a lion and the other is a melanistic cougar.
/here kitty kitty
Siamese who is normally sweet but really REALLY scary when he goes ballistic. People take one look at him and ask "is he mean?" - so I guess he has that scary Siamese monster look, but he's actually a pussycat, if you give him what he wants and don't threaten me - or the other cat. The other cat is a huge domestic shorthair who is a bit of a coward, but if a dog comes near the patio, she goes into high gear and chases it away. She gave a German Shepard a bit of a fright one time.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:34:27pm |
re: #183 scratch
Hi Irene. As I said, no offense intended, but "getting the news out" is not the issue. Spamming a website intended for book reviews is the issue.
Why is it spamming? In a regularly published book review, whether or not the author was a terrorist or any part of his background or ideology are entirely fair game - especially if they should inform the subject of the book.
You honestly don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
I also take exception to your cry for only using the Marquess of Queensbury rules when dealing with ideologies that want to destroy the United States. Do you have ANY idea what lengths these people will go to to achieve their ends?
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:34:28pm |
re: #163 itellu3times
Good evening, lizards.
Just checking to vent, why must Obama waste his money in California showing these obnoxious, mendacious ads, when the whole state is in the bag for him already anyway? Just to depress me, I guess.
Come on, Drudge, link to the zombie.
Maybe his internal polling is telling him otherwise?
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victor_yugo Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:35:07pm |
re: #191 Catttt
Sounds like my kind of cats. You know, two eyes, two ears, mouth full of teeth, tail that twitches when the cat is annoyed...
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Inquisitive Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:36:30pm |
re: #184 Adina in Judea
One thing we know for sure is that the Left is even worse at winning than they are at losing (because they do indeed see elections in terms of games where their pride is at stake.)
When they win, they're even bigger jerks than when they lose.
If people are looking to do some rioting in all this, it will be worse if Obama wins (G-d forbid.) One way or another, Obama's message in all this is division, wealth distribution, and property damage.
And if he should win.....it will all happen....and unfortunately all us McCain voters will be caught in all the fall out or should I use "that ones" word and say.....punished
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gmsc Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:37:05pm |
re: #163 itellu3times
Good evening, lizards.
Just checking to vent, why must Obama waste his money in California showing these obnoxious, mendacious ads, when the whole state is in the bag for him already anyway? Just to depress me, I guess.
Personally, I support the idea of 0bama needlessly wasting as much of his own campaign's money as possible.
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esch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:37:20pm |
Hmmm. Sorry if this is a dupe:
I sense a bitchslap of epic proportions coming. Going after Red states?
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Gus 802 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:37:21pm |
Greta Van Susteren's special is already up on Youtube.
“Barack Obama: The Ties That Bind”
Haven't seen it yet. 4 parts.
/Must watch.
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Palandine Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:38:04pm |
re: #173 stuiec
What's REALLY weird is that Vera Baker had a partnership called Baker Wambu with a woman named Muthoni Wambu. They were political consultants on strategy and fundraising, and because they were Black women, most of their work came from members of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Vera Baker's work in fundraising for Obama you know about. But did you know that Muthoni Wambu became the deputy political director of Joe Biden's 2008 Presidential campaign?
And then Joe Biden, Mr. 1 Percent of the Primary Vote, Mr. Barack-Obama-Is-Clean-And-Articulate, gets the nod from Obama as his running mate. Doesn't that smell awfully fishy? Like maybe Biden asked Wambu to ask Baker to persuade Obama to pick Biden? Perhaps someone in Biden's campaign knew that Baker could be extremely persuasive with Barack for some reason.
I'd just like to see the media investigate--not because of any potential hanky-panky (I don't care who sleeps with who), but because she is sometimes attributed as being part of the Senate campaign and sometimes not. That, plus the fact that anything factual dealing with her is just GONE from Google (even if you look at the cache, nothing's there) and the internet archive. I didn't know you could "disappear" a person like that from teh interwebz with such success. Why?
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:38:52pm |
re: #183 scratch
Hi Irene. As I said, no offense intended, but "getting the news out" is not the issue. Spamming a website intended for book reviews is the issue.
And what makes you think all the positive reviews for the book on Amazon, giving it a 5-star rating, are not also spam posted by Communists and/or Obots?
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notutopia Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:39:34pm |
re: #3 zombie
Now aren't you glad that Al Gore invented the internet!
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:40:09pm |
re: #186 FamHistoryGuy
Ayers realized that bombs were counter productive. Subverting the education system is more effective, even though it is a long term project.
Bombs are especially counterproductive if they blow up your own cadres during the manufacturing process.
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solomonpanting Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:40:18pm |
I'd sure like to know what people like this expect:
"We feel we're on the brink of a whole new life in this country," said Betsy Whitman, 69.
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victor_yugo Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:41:49pm |
re: #203 solomonpanting
I'd sure like to know what people like this expect:
"We feel we're on the brink of a whole new life in this country," said Betsy Whitman, 69.
If it's taken her 69 years to be "on the brink" of anything, she's been living in a cave.
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JeremiahRight Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:42:01pm |
re: #187 The Archivist
HelloDare [#147]:
"If that office on the third floor were the exact same office that Ayers used -- the very same space. That would be great. We just don't know. They could have had offices on opposite ends of the 3rd floor. We just don't know."
Could someone living in that area go by the building on Monday and report back? Some office buildings are small and have but one or two offices per floor.
the building looks like it's only 4 floors high, and not very big, using Google Maps street view feature
check it out
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Scion9 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:42:35pm |
re: #200 Alberta Oil Peon
And what makes you think all the positive reviews for the book on Amazon, giving it a 5-star rating, are not also spam posted by Communists and/or Obots?
And what makes you think that your desire to counter-spam wasn't intilled into you from early childhood by our oppressive Capitalist education system you beorgousie-loving racist pig?
/Ayers
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Killian Bundy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:43:03pm |
re: #197 esch
Going after Red states?
Why not?
/he's currently coasting in all the battleground states
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notutopia Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:43:22pm |
re: #157 zombie
Okay Zombie,
Sent also to Frank at Fox and Kurtz at the Corner, National Review.
G' Night all!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:44:26pm |
Bezmenov is a former KGB agent, who defected to the West in 1970. Here he describes the 4 classic phases of Soviet subversion of a country. Interesting to see how much of it has come to pass in the U.S.A.
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Metal Man Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:45:07pm |
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:45:34pm |
re: #192 Irene NYC
Why is it spamming? In a regularly published book review, whether or not the author was a terrorist or any part of his background or ideology are entirely fair game - especially if they should inform the subject of the book.
You honestly don't know what you're talking about, sorry.
I also take exception to your cry for only using the Marquess of Queensbury rules when dealing with ideologies that want to destroy the United States. Do you have ANY idea what lengths these people will go to to achieve their ends?
If a bunch of people head to a book review site with the intent of leaving a large volume of comments without having read the book, especially if the comments are about the author rather than the book, then I consider that spamming. It also strikes me as no more effective--or acceptable--than spray painting Obama yard signs with helpful information for voters.
On another note, I was in NYC for Echo and the Bunnymen a few weeks ago. Great show, great city. On may way to catch an early train home the next morning, I stood in the middle of a deserted 7th Avenue and snapped a photo of Times Square. I wish I could post it here.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:46:41pm |
re: #206 Scion9
And what makes you think that your desire to counter-spam wasn't intilled into you from early childhood by our oppressive Capitalist education system you beorgousie-loving racist pig?
/Ayers
Heh! You have perfect intonation!
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:47:35pm |
re: #197 esch
Mr Obama is transferring resources to conservative strongholds like Georgia, West Virginia and even Kentucky in pursuit of a landslide victory.
I sense a bitchslap of epic proportions coming. Going after Red states?
Obama has always planned to go after the Red States.
He's late in doing it, that's all.
Meanwhile, Obama is slipping in the Zogby poll and McCain is gaining (with Obama only two points ahead now.)
Gallup's traditional likely voter poll shows Obama only two points ahead.
The polling seems to be too heavily weighted for Democrats in the first place.
I wouldn't panic on the basis of what Obama is doing. Part of his strategy is to make himself seem "inevitable" (as Hillary once was.)
As John McCain has said - NOTHING is inevitable. This is America.
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FamHistoryGuy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:48:44pm |
re: #202 stuiec
Never do an ohms check on the wires with the detonators hooked up. Bad joo-joo.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:51:10pm |
re: #211 scratch
Scratch,
I'm very happy that you had a memorable time in NYC. People who visit and enjoy their stay are our great ambassadors.
Now, back to what you call "spamming." As it happens, someone in my family is a book reviewer. Through this person I've spent many evenings with other professional book reviewers. I cannot tell you how many times they have admitted to not reading the book - only bits and pieces. Really!
Now, anybody who knows Amazon knows that any review is first reviewedvetted itself. So, it's not like someone could write, "Ayers is a filthy terrorist piece of sh*t," and see it published on Amazon. That does not mean, however, that you couldn't easily cadge a line or two from the book, a few quotes from a speech or two and put together a short para exposing Ayers for what he is. Why you consider this spamming is beyond me.
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:51:15pm |
re: #199 Palandine
I'd just like to see the media investigate--not because of any potential hanky-panky (I don't care who sleeps with who), but because she is sometimes attributed as being part of the Senate campaign and sometimes not. That, plus the fact that anything factual dealing with her is just GONE from Google (even if you look at the cache, nothing's there) and the internet archive. I didn't know you could "disappear" a person like that from teh interwebz with such success. Why?
Yes, why? If she's a legitimate businesswoman, why is her Cape Caribbean business now erased from the Web?
And I really do want to know whether it's totally coincidental that Obama picked Biden, possibly the worst of the Democrat alternatives, when Biden's deputy political director was the former partner of Obama's erstwhile D.C. fundraiser.
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Inquisitive Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:51:51pm |
re: #203 solomonpanting
I'd sure like to know what people like this expect:
"We feel we're on the brink of a whole new life in this country," said Betsy Whitman, 69.
I want a whole new life, I want change in my life and I want more hope in my life...but not the kind of life, change or hope that Obama would bring....I already have to live with what he can do...living here in IL.....that is why I will be voting for McCain on Nov. 4 ......I would rather be stuck "that one" as my Senator than as POTUS!
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gmsc Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:52:29pm |
re: #198 Gus 802
Greta Van Susteren's special is already up on Youtube.
“Barack Obama: The Ties That Bind”
Haven't seen it yet. 4 parts.
/Must watch.
Thanks for the heads up - I've downloaded it.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:52:48pm |
You know what makes me mad?
What makes me mad is the cruelly brutal treatment that the totall off the deep end SNL crowd gave Sara Palin. Apparently, decency is not in their language. Like the incredibly edited MSM interview that was solely designed to make her look like an idot, this was a whole new level of partisan smear.
Look I understand that some people want to villify Sara Palin because she' not shamed to be a hunter, or scorn her because she took a Down Syndrome baby to term, or because your most digustingly offensive attacks against her did not stick. I really did not expect any less.
Now go ahead and say the same about the savage misogynist attacks that McCain has leveled on the left...
You aren't just despicable in your affiliations, you are abominable because you treat human life like a throwayay toy.
We are not that stupid.
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Killian Bundy Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:53:25pm |
You know, No Country for Old Men is one [expletive deleted] up movie.
/but the Josh Brolin character ends up dead so it's cool
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:54:19pm |
Something is telling me that the morning after McCain wins, there had better not be any McCain/Palin stickers on my vehicles.
/sorry if this sounds wimpy, but I'd rather not have any insurance claims on my clu report.
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:54:29pm |
re: #213 Adina in Judea
Obama spent a lot of time and effort on a 50-state strategy from the get-go, and it was only a few weeks ago that he gave up on that to redeploy to the battleground states.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:54:38pm |
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:55:14pm |
re: #219 really grumpy big dog Johnson
graumpy,
Don't be mad. Sarah was a pearl before swine. And brother, did it show.
;)
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scratch Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:55:14pm |
re: #215 Irene NYC
...Why you consider this spamming is beyond me.
I guess it's volume rather than content, for me. A concerted effort to generate many posts. Anyway...
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:55:16pm |
re: #214 FamHistoryGuy
Never do an ohms check on the wires with the detonators hooked up. Bad joo-joo.
Thanks, that goes up on my wall next to, "Always cut the BLUE wire!"
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:55:18pm |
re: #220 Killian Bundy
"No Country for Old Men" is an "I Despise America" movie (which is why it got Best Picture at the Academy Awards.)
I'm sorry to have seen this movie.
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solomonpanting Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:55:28pm |
re: #217 Inquisitive
I would rather be stuck "that one" as my Senator than as POTUS!
We'll do our best for that scenario.
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HelloDare Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:56:20pm |
re: #227 Adina in Judea
"No Country for Old Men" is an "I Despise America" movie (which is why it got Best Picture at the Academy Awards.)
I'm sorry to have seen this movie.
I also regret seeing it.
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:56:23pm |
re: #199 Palandine
I'd just like to see the media investigate--not because of any potential hanky-panky (I don't care who sleeps with who), but because she is sometimes attributed as being part of the Senate campaign and sometimes not. That, plus the fact that anything factual dealing with her is just GONE from Google (even if you look at the cache, nothing's there) and the internet archive. I didn't know you could "disappear" a person like that from teh interwebz with such success. Why?
Good point. I'm as close as one can get to a nobody, and I still pop up on Google.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:56:27pm |
re: #221 astronmr20
Something is telling me that the morning after McCain wins, there had better not be any McCain/Palin stickers on my vehicles.
/sorry if this sounds wimpy, but I'd rather not have any insurance claims on my clu report.
I plan on staying indoors November 5th and 6th. And don't you dare call me a whimp!
;)
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:57:45pm |
re: #225 scratch
I guess it's volume rather than content, for me. A concerted effort to generate many posts. Anyway...
I've seen books on amazon with 4, 5, 6 pages of reviews. It's what makes amazon amazon. And I'm pretty sure that a lot of those reviews were written by people who hadn't actually read the book.
;)
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:57:46pm |
re: #227 Adina in Judea
"No Country for Old Men" is an "I Despise America" movie (which is why it got Best Picture at the Academy Awards.)
I'm sorry to have seen this movie.
Why do you think it was anti-american?
The villains were all Mexican.
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Metal Man Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:58:06pm |
re: #226 stuiec
Thanks, that goes up on my wall next to, "Always cut the BLUE wire!"
EOD techs need to know that stuff. My tool of choice is run.
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Adina in Judea Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:58:20pm |
re: #224 Irene NYC
Sarah was a pearl before swine. And brother, did it show.
Did it ever!
The current SNL players truly are not worthy.
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stuiec Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:58:50pm |
re: #221 astronmr20
Something is telling me that the morning after McCain wins, there had better not be any McCain/Palin stickers on my vehicles.
/sorry if this sounds wimpy, but I'd rather not have any insurance claims on my clu report.
Even more so if McCain loses: the thugs will feel they have the authority of the new regime behind them.
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Irene NYC Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:58:58pm |
re: #225 scratch
I guess it's volume rather than content, for me. A concerted effort to generate many posts. Anyway...
One other question scratch.
You've been on LGF almost as long as I have, but you rarely post. What is it about this topic that has gotten you so worked up (if you don't mind my asking)?
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astronmr20 Sat, Oct 18, 2008 11:59:27pm |
re: #236 stuiec
Even more so if McCain loses: the thugs will feel they have the authority of the new regime behind them.
You make an excellent point....
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MrSnuggles Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:00:17am |
Noob question here, is there any way to see how many updings one has? or how many posts?
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Inquisitive Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:00:39am |
re: #236 stuiec
Even more so if McCain loses: the thugs will feel they have the authority of the new regime behind them.
It is going to be a lose/lose situation come Nov. 5th
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astronmr20 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:01:25am |
re: #240 Inquisitive
It is going to be a lose/lose situation come Nov. 5th
It's gonna look like France any way we slice it, for a few days.
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Irene NYC Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:02:01am |
re: #239 MrSnuggles
Noob question here, is there any way to see how many updings one has? or how many posts?
MrS,
Click your avatar or football. Not only will you see how many posts you've posted, and when you joined, but you'll see your lizard registration number (only you can see that when you click). Updings? I'm unaware of any counter.
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:02:12am |
re: #239 MrSnuggles
Click on the persons (or your own) icon.
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Macker Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:03:19am |
re: #170 TnTx13
Just wait until Obama needs a plumber ;)
He'll just call up Mr. Dinner Jacket and supply his own Vaseline®.
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astronmr20 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:04:02am |
Anyone want to take a crack at guessing what 0 is going to say in his 30-minutes of airtime he has purchased?
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:04:32am |
re: #234 Metal Man
EOD techs need to know that stuff. My tool of choice is run.
This reminds me of the episode of CSI (the Las Vegas one, that is) where a guy is arrested for building numerous pipe bombs and illegally storing liquid explosives. To eliminate the liquid explosives, they have to destroy them in place, blowing up the guy's house.
As he's being taken to jail, he threatens to sue the city, and claims he's going to own the police station when he's done suing the city. He even says, "As a matter of fact, I'll just live right here! Whaddaya think of that?"
One of the two arresting officers looks at him sternly and says, "We'll get you a room."
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Odinga Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:04:37am |
While everyone is obsessing over Joe the Plumbers back taxes Obama seems to be embroiled in an ethics violation over taxes.
Just to remind you, Illinois prohibits state legislators from taking speaking fees, and Barack reported "speaking fees.":
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Irene NYC Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:04:45am |
re: #246 astronmr20
Anyone want to take a crack at guessing what 0 is going to say in his 30-minutes of airtime he has purchased?
It's not what he'll say, it'll be how he says it. He's out to hypnotize the world.
;)
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:04:58am |
re: #233 astronmr20
Why do you think it was anti-american?
The villains were all Mexican.
The title explains it.
The point of the movie is that Hollywood views America as being crap compared to the America that old American men remembered in the 1970s. They picked the 1970s as a time when America became crap, in their view.
The Left (especially in Hollywood) is still stuck in their Vietnam era angst.
They can't express themselves properly without wanting to puke when they think of America. It comes out in films like "No Country for Old Men."
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zombie Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:05:14am |
Now on Pat Dollard and also currently the top news link on Hot Air.
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:05:46am |
re: #240 Inquisitive
It is going to be a lose/lose situation come Nov. 5th
I'll have to trade cars with the kid for a month or 2 and transfer my McCain sticker to it. Just to test that theory:) How bad can they f up a $1000 car.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:06:02am |
re: #233 astronmr20
The villains were all Mexican.
Except for the best supporting actor psychopath, pretty much the only one who barely lives.
/the compressed air punch and the silenced shotgun are a nice touch
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stuiec Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:06:14am |
re: #234 Metal Man
EOD techs need to know that stuff. My tool of choice is run.
I need to know that stuff for my screenwriting hobby. Fortunately, I don't need to know the factually accurate versions of that stuff, just the cinematically interesting versions. For example, speaking of running, it works even better in celluloid reality, where it's completely possible to outrun both the shock wave of the blast and the projectile bits of debris.
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Irene NYC Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:07:05am |
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:07:36am |
re: #234 Metal Man
I once considered training for EOD. Decided that my memory and nerves were not up to it. I stuck to uploading and downloading bombs on airplanes.
461X0=Munitions handler (bomb dump)
462X0=Bomb loader
463X0=Missile tech
464X0=EOD
Never turn an anti-withdrawal fuse to the left.
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:08:01am |
re: #247 gmsc
Yeah that stuff will get you a room at the state hotel:)
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Inquisitive Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:08:24am |
re: #246 astronmr20
Anyone want to take a crack at guessing what 0 is going to say in his 30-minutes of airtime he has purchased?
"I am the one whom we have been waiting for" over and over for 30 min....hypnotizing everyone.....
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pat Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:08:44am |
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:09:36am |
re: #246 astronmr20
Anyone want to take a crack at guessing what 0 is going to say in his 30-minutes of airtime he has purchased?
If he doesn't offer free steak knives, his infomercial is going to be pretty boring.
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rawmuse Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:09:51am |
re: #124 Killian Bundy
Those are spindly little bastids.
Try these.
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Inquisitive Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:10:20am |
re: #252 Metal Man
I'll have to trade cars with the kid for a month or 2 and transfer my McCain sticker to it. Just to test that theory:) How bad can they f up a $1000 car.
Not the car I would be worried about.......
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BakaRanger Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:11:22am |
re: #92 zombie
I understand completely about being secretive. Good advice about taking a lot of images and improve them with available software. I see your photos and always think what camera is he using, they always look so great. Then I look at my camera a think what a piece of s&*t.
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FamHistoryGuy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:12:13am |
re: #241 astronmr20
With a higher body count for the bad guys though.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:12:38am |
re: #221 astronmr20
Something is telling me that the morning after McCain wins, there had better not be any McCain/Palin stickers on my vehicles.
/sorry if this sounds wimpy, but I'd rather not have any insurance claims on my clu report.
I don't care much about my car, it's old and worthless, but the roommate just started leasing a new Mazda3 (it replaced her eighteen-year-old Japanese sedan which was falling apart - it was NOT a frivolous expense) and we don't want to have to be repairing it if the locals decide to take out their racial pain on Whitey's Stuff.
I live across a major thoroughfare from an area that's a bit... less than good. Heavy on minorities, and higher in crime stats. For that matter, my complex is no white country club either, though it's fairly middle class - most of the black folks in my immediate neighborhood are doing much better than I am. But after one poster's comment here the other night that he overheard two otherwise apparently sensible women at his place of work making plans to "either celebrate or riot, whatever's necessary" on Nov. 5th, I plan on being ready for an emergency. I went ahead and ordered myself a holster for my 9mm, and I talked with the roommate about the possibility of having to bug out for a day or two, depending on what happens.
I don't know what to expect, really. Possibilities range from "absolutely nothing" to pretty much any kind of anti-social behavior: harassment, assault, vandalism, looting, maybe worse. Worst-case scenario would be the sort of trouble that has me putting a "You loot, we shoot" sign out on my porch; I would hold down the fort while the roommate takes the cats and stays with her parents.
This whole Obama thing is shaping up to be just plain f-cking BAD for this country, any way you slice it. If he wins, the lefties run rampant and we might not ever have enough money to pay our way out of the hole he could put us in... If he loses, we might see violence, and racial hatreds real and imaginary re-kindled all over again. Mr. "Post Racial" could end up setting race relations back thirty years. I just don't know if there's enough sanity left in the country to deal with this situation maturely.
Politics seems to bring out the worst in people, and that "worst" has been getting worse for a long time now, IMO. I can remember when elections didn't have me concerned about the possibility of being attacked in the street.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:12:45am |
re: #256 FamHistoryGuy
I once considered training for EOD. Decided that my memory and nerves were not up to it. I stuck to uploading and downloading bombs on airplanes.
461X0=Munitions handler (bomb dump)
462X0=Bomb loader
463X0=Missile tech
464X0=EODNever turn an anti-withdrawal fuse to the left.
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odinga Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:14:28am |
MUST SEE THIS:
Add this to the Zombie Photo of Obamas Book Review.
Ayers MENTIONS that he lives near the WRITER OBAMA in the TEXT of AYERS BOOK, "A Kind And Just Parent" (Pages 81-82) as well as the fact THAT FARAKAN LIVES A BLOCK AWAY.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:15:25am |
A link to the google version of the Ayers book in question [Link: books.google.com...]
And yes Ayers does mention Obama on page 82
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:17:39am |
Just for fun, cheer, and schandefreude: NY Times stock price from 2004-2008
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:17:54am |
re: #265 Pawn of the Oppressor
This whole Obama thing is shaping up to be just plain f-cking BAD for this country, any way you slice it.
Obama is a person who is set on damaging the country and the world.
Whatever happens on November 4th, the next day is going to be rough.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:18:06am |
re: #261 rawmuse
Those are spindly little bastids.
Try these.
/they look to be about the same thing, not designed to resist cat climbing
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:18:51am |
re: #262 Inquisitive
Not the car I would be worried about.......
I may be a moron but if they push things to the level of attacking me I might as well know my fate sooner than later.
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scratch Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:19:27am |
One other question scratch.You've been on LGF almost as long as I have, but you rarely post. What is it about this topic that has gotten you so worked up (if you don't mind my asking)?
Maybe you clicked the wrong user? I've been READING since 2004, but only registered a few weeks ago. Funny thing...no announcement or anything...just checked the site and saw that registration was open.
Whoa...holy smokes, that's weird. I just clicked my football and saw the date. I just registered a few weeks ago! Must have been some sort of wrinkle in the continuum.
Anyway, to answer your question in more detail, I remember seeing the online polls all out of wack back in 2004, and it didn't take long to figure out that the lefty sites were stuffing the polls en masse. I didn't much care for the tactic. But I assure you I am all for getting the word out on Ayers, if indeed that can be done. In fact, I would love to give McCain this advice: "When you attack Obama, you need to pull the thread about 6 inches more than you have been. Bring up Ayers, then tell people that he set bombs right here in the U.S.. Say that Obama wants to "spread the wealth", then tell people that he has promised tax cuts to more people than actually pay taxes. Etc. etc.
I am hopeful but not optimistic at this point.
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pat Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:19:36am |
Obama will destroy what is necessary to achieve justice. That means America.
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stuiec Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:20:17am |
re: #265 Pawn of the Oppressor
One good thing that would come out of that blast of insanity, if it materializes, would be that the complacent ordinary folks would get a serious wake-up call about the dangers of radicalism and revolutionary violence that people on the Right have been warning about for years. The apologists for the rioters will try to draw parallels to the riots in the wake of Martin Luther King's assassination, but the vast majority of folks will understand that grief and outrage at an assassination are one thing and disappointment at the outcome of an election is another. Americans detest sore losers, and nothing says sore loser than nationwide rioting in the streets.
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tradewind Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:20:27am |
Damn
straight
skippy.....
' ...you have not attempted to locate Barack Obama's drug dealer from his earlier days, nor interviewed his relatives living in poverty in Africa as to why he hasn't rescued them...'
[Link: gretawire.foxnews.com...]
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HelloDare Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:21:43am |
Was over at Hot Air reading the comments about Zombie's story. Thought this comment was brilliant.
I think a 15-year-old should ask Barry this question:“Senator Government, I was 8 years old at the time osama bin laden and his pals killed thousands of Americans in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. How long should I wait before I can review his videos or hold a fundraiser in his cave?”
Ronnie on October 19, 2008 at 12:40 AM
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rawmuse Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:22:31am |
re: #272 Killian Bundy
Cats love to climb on precious musical instruments. I have one that killed a favorite bass of mine, a 3/4 size German one, worth about $4000. Turned it in to kindling.
The cat still lives, to this day. I blamed myself for that one.
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:22:47am |
re: #275 pat
Obama will destroy what is necessary to achieve justice. That means America.
...and he'll destroy justice along the way.
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:25:04am |
re: #278 HelloDare
Was over at Hot Air reading the comments about Zombie's story. Thought this comment was brilliant.
I think a 15-year-old should ask Barry this question:
“Senator Government, I was 8 years old at the time osama bin laden and his pals killed thousands of Americans in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. How long should I wait before I can review his videos or hold a fundraiser in his cave?”Ronnie on October 19, 2008 at 12:40 AM
0bama's reply: "Well, as long as you assume he's been rehabilitated, anytime is good."
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:25:05am |
re: #266 Killian Bundy
That's kinda like joke one of the guys in my lab used to pull. It was safe enough in our case since it was an enclosed saw. But he would take a aluminum cake tin and drop it behind you as you were cutting something. Never got used to it since you focus on whats in the saw.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:26:41am |
re: #279 rawmuse
Cats love to climb on precious musical instruments. I have one that killed a favorite bass of mine, a 3/4 size German one, worth about $4000. Turned it in to kindling.
The cat still lives, to this day. I blamed myself for that one.
The 1972 (July) Rickenbacker 4000 stereo bass (serial #LG681)
blonde "checkerboard" is still too big a mountain for Kitten Bill to climb.
/maybe I'll just have to dig out the cases if he goes after them again
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:27:24am |
re: #280 gmsc
re: #275 pat
Obama will destroy what is necessary to achieve justice. That means America.
...and he'll destroy justice along the way.
Lord Barry wants to reinvent America to be a place where justice doesn't matter. He wants everything (especially the Supreme Court) to be slanted for those people considered less privileged.
If this is how America had always been, it wouldn't have been the land of opportunity for the many millions of immigrants who have come to America to look for better lives and futures for their children.
Barry wants to make America become the place that Europeans were trying to leave when they immigrated to America.
Barry intends to leave no stone unturned to undo America.
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Inquisitive Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:27:24am |
re: #274 scratch
Maybe you clicked the wrong user? I've been READING since 2004, but only registered a few weeks ago. Funny thing...no announcement or anything...just checked the site and saw that registration was open.
Whoa...holy smokes, that's weird. I just clicked my football and saw the date. I just registered a few weeks ago! Must have been some sort of wrinkle in the continuum.
Anyway, to answer your question in more detail, I remember seeing the online polls all out of wack back in 2004, and it didn't take long to figure out that the lefty sites were stuffing the polls en masse. I didn't much care for the tactic. But I assure you I am all for getting the word out on Ayers, if indeed that can be done. In fact, I would love to give McCain this advice: "When you attack Obama, you need to pull the thread about 6 inches more than you have been. Bring up Ayers, then tell people that he set bombs right here in the U.S.. Say that Obama wants to "spread the wealth", then tell people that he has promised tax cuts to more people than actually pay taxes. Etc. etc.
I am hopeful but not optimistic at this point.
Maybe you just forgot.....
/did you happen to registered a sockpuppet a few weeks ago
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DisturbedEma Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:27:57am |
re: #220 Killian Bundy
You know, No Country for Old Men is one [expletive deleted] up movie.
/but the Josh Brolin character ends up dead so it's cool
I love a happy ending. . .he was such a smug fuck on SNL tonight. . .
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rawmuse Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:29:30am |
re: #283 Killian Bundy
My Bass Killer cat is one of those black and white ones with a Hitler moustache.
That he lives is a testament to my largesse.
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:30:39am |
re: #287 rawmuse
My Bass Killer cat is one of those black and white ones with a Hitler moustache.
That he lives is a testament to my largesse.
Have you sent his picture to catsthatlooklikehitler.com?
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Palandine Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:30:41am |
re: #221 astronmr20
Something is telling me that the morning after McCain wins, there had better not be any McCain/Palin stickers on my vehicles.
/sorry if this sounds wimpy, but I'd rather not have any insurance claims on my clu report.
I'm voting, then I'm removing my bumper sticker, then I'm putting the car in the garage. Discretion is the better part of valor.
Ooh, Alien is on Fox Movie Channel. That scene with John Hurt, and the *sound* the alien makes in it, still squicks me out...
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Neo Con since 9-11 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:30:45am |
Heh we got a live troll in the undead's thread
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rawmuse Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:31:40am |
I liked "No Country For Old Men", and the new one from the Cohen Bros.
"Burn After Reading".
I got a song, ain't got no morals.
It's the Bad Guy win every once in a while.
-Billy Preston
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:32:40am |
re: #290 Palandine
I'm voting, then I'm removing my bumper sticker, then I'm putting the car in the garage. Discretion is the better part of valor.
Ooh, Alien is on Fox Movie Channel. That scene with John Hurt, and the *sound* the alien makes in it, still squicks me out...
Thanks to Spaceballs, I can never again watch that scene in Alien without laughing.
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DisturbedEma Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:33:28am |
re: #292 rawmuse
I liked "No Country For Old Men", and the new one from the Cohen Bros.
"Burn After Reading".
I got a song, ain't got no morals.
It's the Bad Guy win every once in a while.
-Billy Preston
You are entitled. . .I cannot stand Brolin. . .but I loved Fargo and Raising Arizona. . .
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:33:52am |
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DisturbedEma Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:34:43am |
re: #280 gmsc
...and he'll destroy justice along the way.
No justice. . .no peace. . .just pieces. . .
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:35:24am |
re: #287 rawmuse
My Bass Killer cat is one of those black and white ones with a Hitler moustache.
That he lives is a testament to my largesse.
You just can't imagine how pissed off I was when I heard that dull "twang" of a Les Paul hitting the deck, or maybe you can.
/he tipped it over sideways, which is the only reason the neck didn't break
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Tamron Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:36:10am |
in 1997 Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services at the U of Chicago, invited William Ayers and Senator Barack Obama to be two of four members of a panel on juvenile justice. Here's an article that appeared in the U of C News regarding that event:
CLOSE-UP ON JUVENILE JUSTICE
By Jennifer Vanasco
University of Chicago News Office
November 6, 1997 - Vol. 17, Nol 4
Children who kill are called "super predators," "people with no conscience," "feral pre-social beings" -- and "adults."William Ayers, author of A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court (Beacon Press, 1997), says "We should call a child a child. A 13-year-old who picks up a gun isn't suddenly an adult. We have to ask other questions: How did he get the gun? Where did it come from?"
Ayers, who spent a year observing the Cook County Temporary Juvenile Detention Center in Chicago, is one of four panelists who will speak on juvenile justice at 6 p.m. Thursday, Nov. 20, in the C-Shop. The panel, which marks the 100th anniversary of the juvenile justice system in the United States, is part of the Community Service Center's monthly discussion series on issues affecting the city of Chicago. The event is free and open to the public.
Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system; Randolph Stone, Director of the Mandel Legal Aid Clinic; Alex Correa, a reformed juvenile offender who spent seven years in Cook County Temporary Detention Center; Frank Tobin, a former priest and teacher at the Detention Center who helped Correa; and Willy Baldwin, who grew up in public housing and is currently a teacher at the Detention Center.
The juvenile justice system was founded by Chicago reformer Jane Addams, who advocated the establishment of a separate court system for children which would act like a "kind and just parent" for children in crisis.
One hundred years later, the system is "overcrowded, under-funded, over-centralized and racist," Ayers said.
Michelle Obama, Associate Dean of Student Services and Director of the University Community Service Center, hopes bringing issues like this to campus will open a dialogue between members of the University community and the broader community.
"Students and faculty explore these issues in the classroom, but it is an internal conversation," [Michelle] Obama said. "We know that issues like juvenile justice impact the city of Chicago, this nation and -- directly or indirectly -- this campus. This panel gives students a chance to hear about the juvenile justice system not only on a theoretical level, but from the people who have experienced it."
Do you get Ayers' viewpoint? Here's what he is saying: A teenager who murders is not at fault. The fault lies only in the gun they were using, and how they got the gun. (Incidentally, what if he didn't use a gun?) A murderer is not a murderer, until he's had at least 18 birthdays.
.
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rawmuse Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:37:06am |
re: #298 Killian Bundy
Mine made that classic, unmistakable "El Ka-bong" sound.
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gmsc Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:38:01am |
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:39:06am |
re: #284 Adina in Judea
Barry may be evil incarnate or he is just greedy. These politicians are mostly just trying to get the goose to lay the golden eggs faster to feed their greed. They just can;t imagine they are on the brink of killing that goose.
It is odd that all one needs to know about how we are being f^&ked by politics is in these four childrens books.
The Ant and the Grasshopper
The Little Red Hen
The Boy who cried Wolf
Chicken Little
Oh and the one with the goose of course.
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:41:30am |
re: #302 gmsc
Cute. Looks like he's ready willing and able to jump on a fine bass any minute now. Giant whiskers -- he'll be wide body for sure.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:42:27am |
On the bright side, I just watched Palin on SNL.
I'm sorry, y'all can complain about it if you like, but when Amy Pohler "shot" the moose, I laughed until I cried.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:45:15am |
re: #303 Metal Man
Barry may be evil incarnate or he is just greedy. These politicians are mostly just trying to get the goose to lay the golden eggs faster to feed their greed. They just can;t imagine they are on the brink of killing that goose.
It is odd that all one needs to know about how we are being f^&ked by politics is in these four childrens books.
The Ant and the Grasshopper
The Little Red Hen
The Boy who cried Wolf
Chicken LittleOh and the one with the goose of course.
Michelle Malkin did the first one, I think I saw the second one in a post a couple days ago.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:46:03am |
re: #306 Pawn of the Oppressor
I don't see anything wrong with Palin and McCain appearing as themselves on SNL. It shows that at least we can laugh at ourselves once in a while, unlike others who get OFFENDED when their candidate is "portrayed."
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:47:26am |
Here's a clear mugshot of John Podesta who's leading Obama's imaginary transition team.
Former Clinton hack.
/Looks like your typical EU Parliament geek.
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Inquisitive Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:47:29am |
Time for me to say good night.......it has been as usual enlightening and entertaining ......Great job Zombie, and as far watching SNL....in Sarah's words......NEVER AGAIN!
p.s.thanks Charles for a great place to hang out!
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:52:12am |
re: #307 laZardo
I think somebody did a version of The Little Red Hen here today or last night. Which was my inspiration.
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Salem Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:52:35am |
If Obama wins, there may well be celebration riots, just like after championship games.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:53:42am |
I missed Sarahcuda's SNL appearence....anyone care to give me the nutshell version of her appearence and the cast and audiences reaction?
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:54:12am |
re: #308 laZardo
I don't see anything wrong with Palin and McCain appearing as themselves on SNL. It shows that at least we can laugh at ourselves once in a while, unlike others who get OFFENDED when their candidate is "portrayed."
I liked when they had McCain on during the primaries, and he was telling the Democrats that they should take their time picking a nominee...
"And don't forget about that John Edwards guy. Maybe you should go back and kick the tires on him again, too..."
Speaking of McCain on TV, he was on Leno the day after Ascension at Invescos, and he was pretty funny and self-deprecating, AND he made some heavyweight comments about the Bush admin too. He called Rumsfeld "one of the worst SecDefs we've ever had", flat out, right there on the show, in the context of talking about Petraeus' surge tactics in Iraq.
McCain gives us more insight into his thinking on a f-ckin' late night talk show than we get from Obama in a Presidential debate. How sad is that?
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:54:45am |
re: #270 gmsc
Just for fun, cheer, and schandefreude: NY Times stock price from 2004-2008
Their dollar value is now 2/7 what it was five years ago.
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:56:16am |
re: #313 Fenway_Nation
I missed Sarahcuda's SNL appearence....anyone care to give me the nutshell version of her appearence and the cast and audiences reaction?
She rocked, Lorne Michaels took a swipe at his own 30 Rock, and everyone else pretty well stunk out loud.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:56:56am |
re: #312 Salem
If Obama wins, there may well be celebration riots, just like after championship games.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:57:12am |
re: #314 Pawn of the Oppressor
Comedy shows are the only places where it's okay to pretty much "let it all out" as compared to the rigid PC standards of a debate...
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 12:58:34am |
re: #308 laZardo
I don't see anything wrong with Palin and McCain appearing as themselves on SNL. It shows that at least we can laugh at ourselves once in a while, unlike others who get OFFENDED when their candidate is "portrayed."
Hey Lazardo...I'm being you tonight..it's 4am and i can't sleep!
whad up?
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:00:40am |
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:01:14am |
re: #313 Fenway_Nation
I missed Sarahcuda's SNL appearence....anyone care to give me the nutshell version of her appearance and the cast and audiences reaction?
Description follows, SPOILERS if you haven't seen it (but I won't give away the punchlines)
1. Fey up on the podium pretending to be SP, then they cut to the hallway and the real Palin is watching herself on TV, with Lorne Michaels. Arec Bardwin comes up, complains to Michaels about Palin being on the show, not realizing that it's NOT Tina Fey next to him. Baldwin ends up taking Palin on a "tour" - he goes over to Fey at the podium, whispers in her ear. The real Palin and Fey end up passing one another on stage and, from my POV, Fey looked genuinely snotty towards Palin as they passed... Palin gives the Live from NY intro.
2. Palin on weekend update. She's about to start speaking when she says she can't do "what we rehearsed", Pohler says she'll do it if Palin won't, then she breaks into a rap song about... Well, every funny stereotype of Palin. Pohler raps herself off stage, then the weekend update guy says to Palin, "Yeah, I don't think you should have done that" and Palin says "you betcha!"
That was it. I L'd my A O at the rap bit. For what little she was on, she did great, especially on the weekend update bit. She used to be a sportscaster, after all.
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Salem Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:01:37am |
re: #317 Killian Bundy
Ought to be at least a few shocked Obama supporters starting to ask themselves what they've gotten themselves into after that.
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:01:41am |
Correction: meant Good Lord. Could use an edit option. My fault.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:02:53am |
re: #320 HoosierHoops
Drawing up a rendering sketch for a supermarket "product stand" for a local brand of powdered orange juice. It's designed like an orange tree where kids can 'pick' the orange juice packets off to put in the shopping carts.
/what better way to pass a lazy Sunday afternoon...
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Pawn of the Oppressor Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:03:49am |
Oh, and I have to hand it to Amy Poehler. She was awesome.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:04:46am |
By the way, I'm thinking that 0bama's half-hour infomercial that's supposed to delay the start of the World Series will likely backfire....I mean out of all the people who might be watching, how many do you think haven't made up their minds yet?
Not to mention two of the three possible teams representing the cities still playing for the WS are firmly in the bag for the big 0
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:05:06am |
Just wanted to add one last thought about the election...
In the last few weeks of the primaries, Hillary clobbered Obama massively in some of those states. The only reason she couldn't catch up to Obama was the nature of the delegate system (where he got a similar number of delegates that Hillary got even though he lost primary after primary after primary to her towards the end.)
The electoral college doesn't work the same way.
Obama was so weakened by the end of the primaries that he had to get that vote about Michigan and Florida receiving half-votes for each delegate before he felt comfortable enough to move towards the convention.
In his home state, Obama is more accustomed to winning by having other candidates knocked out of the race for some reason. He's never won an election where he had serious opposition.
Obama is losing ground now. He only surged forward because of the Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac debacle (which the Democrats blamed on the Republicans.)
Obama isn't any more "inevitable" than Hillary turned out to be.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:07:21am |
re: #323 Salem
Ought to be at least a few shocked Obama supporters starting to ask themselves what they've gotten themselves into after that.
/damn right, this is how I picture Lord President For Life Obama voters
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:07:30am |
re: #326 Pawn of the Oppressor
And watching Sarahcudah "dancing" (well, she was sitting, but she was still be-bopping around) to the rap about her was amazingly refreshing.
So that's 2 for 2 of the GOP names who can truly laugh at themselves. And how many of the Dems?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:09:48am |
re: #325 laZardo
Drawing up a rendering sketch for a supermarket "product stand" for a local brand of powdered orange juice. It's designed like an orange tree where kids can 'pick' the orange juice packets off to put in the shopping carts.
/what better way to pass a lazy Sunday afternoon...
How cool...I have a big party to go to today..BBQ and beer and football...
I got a new dog today..His name is winston...
might as well drink some coffee
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:09:56am |
re: #328 Adina in Judea
Interesting how the Obama camp already failed with their Keating 5 strawman which dropped like a rock in water.
McCain can easily win Florida. He should consider more advertising there and perhaps increasing Lieberman's role there.
He should make a few appearances to Michigan.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:12:31am |
re: #333 Gus 802
McCain can easily win Florida. He should consider more advertising there and perhaps increasing Lieberman's role there.
He should make a few appearances to Michigan.
He should do something.
/the clock is ticking and he's still losing
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:17:38am |
re: #319 Metal Man
Mark Wahlberg!?
I watched Max Payne last Friday night and spent the hour afterward grumbling at how they butchered one of my favorite videogames...
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:17:41am |
re: #334 Killian Bundy
He should do something.
/the clock is ticking and he's still losing
Not according to the Bradley Effect.
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:18:46am |
re: #334 Killian Bundy
I know. This while the other half of America is hate to say in Welfare Mode.
The numbers were good in being against the Bailout but he chose the Big Government route. Which is barely working. Now we have Sarkozy whispering in Bush's ear about forming an International Banking System 1.0.
Is this what we want? Is this what McCain wants? How can he distinct himself from this Internationalist direction.
/I'm rambling.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:19:17am |
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:21:09am |
re: #338 Killian Bundy
bad news is that it's a Zogby poll
One ice patch doth not a winter make.
Watch for the Weekly Reader poll.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:21:28am |
re: #336 victor_yugo
Not according to the Bradley Effect.
I'll take what I can get, this election is that important.
/but it would be a shame if racists were the deciding factor
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:23:09am |
re: #340 Killian Bundy
it would be a shame if racists were the deciding factor
"Racists" as defined by whom?
Murtha? Obama? Ayers? The WAB?
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:23:33am |
re: #340 Killian Bundy
I'll take what I can get, this election is that important.
/but it would be a shame if racists were the deciding factor
Well because of the ACORN influence here his year in Indiana..I'm pretty sure McCain has lost the junkie vote.
/
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:23:44am |
Gallup Traditional had McCain within 2%.
That's an even spread within a 2% error factor.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:26:07am |
re: #341 victor_yugo
By any definition, that makes racists already the majority base. q=
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:26:10am |
re: #335 laZardo
Mark Wahlberg!?
I watched Max Payne last Friday night and spent the hour afterward grumbling at how they butchered one of my favorite videogames...
I've played the game but not seen the movie. Seemed to me they put him on just as cover for how they have savaged Sarah.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:26:21am |
re: #341 victor_yugo
"Racists" as defined by whom?
Murtha? Obama? Ayers? The WAB?
That's the Bradley effect, they lie to pollsters with no intention of voting for a black man.
/me, I won't vote for him because he's an arrogant, ball to the wall, hardcore socialist
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:27:53am |
re: #340 Killian Bundy
I'll take what I can get, this election is that important.
/but it would be a shame if racists were the deciding factor
The Bradley Effect isn't racism.
It's a matter of people feeling uncomfortable about saying that they don't intend to vote for the candidate who happens to be black when they're polled ahead of the election.
It's part of the "walking on eggshells" thing that has many white people afraid to be perceived as racists. So they say "Oh yeah, I'm voting for Bradley (or Obama)" when they really have other intentions for whatever reasons.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:29:45am |
re: #345 laZardo
By any definition, that makes racists already the majority base. q=
Bookmarked your website...hell of an artist dude..
I still need an avatar..
avatars by lazardo....:)
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:29:53am |
re: #347 Killian Bundy
That's the Bradley effect, they lie to pollsters with no intention of voting for a black man.
This isn't the Bradley Effect.
The Bradley Effect is white people who don't want to admit to people who are polling them that they plan to choose the other candidate. They don't want to be perceived as racist.
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:30:09am |
re: #347 Killian Bundy
That's the Bradley effect, they lie to pollsters with no intention of voting for a black man.
No, they lie because the man they have no intention of voting for, happens to be black, and they know they'll be called racists no matter what.
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:32:25am |
re: #340 Killian Bundy
I'll take what I can get, this election is that important.
/but it would be a shame if racists were the deciding factor
I'm voting my conscience in this election. And I'm fucking sick of getting labeled a racist for it. The rest of this post is self deleted!
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:33:20am |
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:34:46am |
Someone mentioned "tuxedo cats" earlier.
They're the ones who are mostly black (all over their backs, heads and tails) except for a white chin and stomach. Sometimes they even have four white paws, too.
They do look like they're wearing tuxedos.
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rawmuse Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:34:55am |
Hasta la manana, Lizards!
(can't get the proper diacritical characters for the Espanol...)
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HelloDare Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:34:56am |
Great article from American Thinker. It's in the Spinoff links upstairs. If you like it, ding it up so others can read it later this morning. I think it's spot on.
Here's how it ends:
A Harvard Trial Lawyer for McCain
"...the thing that Barack Obama seems to ponder most is his own greatness. He doesn't write biographies, he writes only autobiographies. He gives speeches which he declares to be historic. He recognizes his place in history long before he has created history. This nation is but a stage upon which Barack Obama creates his life story, and it's all about him.
Yet what great achievement has Barack Obama obtained other than his own political advancement? What historic law did he author, what historic court case did he argue, what historic battle did he fight, what cause greater than himself warranted more than a passing interest in his historic life? If my life were on the line, I wouldn't hire Barack Obama as my lawyer. I'd be concerned that he'd be up late at night working on a draft of his book about how my case affected his life.
Barack Obama loves this country, in his own words, because nowhere else could his story be possible. John McCain loves this country just because. And that's why I'll vote for John McCain."
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:35:27am |
re: #350 Adina in Judea
This isn't the Bradley Effect.
The Bradley Effect is white people who don't want to admit to people who are polling them that they plan to choose the other candidate. They don't want to be perceived as racist.
Crap like that just perpetuates the problem.
/when does the statute of limitations on white guilt expire?
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:36:48am |
I don't think the Bradley Effect will have much of an impact in this election. What we'll probably see is the reverse given the psychological profile of the typical white Liberal Voter.
We also have to keep in mind that Obama was essentially raised by his Kansas grandparents. Or as he described of his grandmother -- a typical white woman. Subject to outstanding "fact checking" of Obama's take on his history of course.
Overall, white liberals tend to associate themselves with black politicians as a general rule regardless of ideology.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:38:25am |
re: #351 victor_yugo
No, they lie because the man they have no intention of voting for, happens to be black, and they know they'll be called racists no matter what.
Dumb, but whatever.
/it's probably worth 2-3 points
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:39:49am |
re: #355 Adina in Judea
Someone mentioned "tuxedo cats" earlier.
They're the ones who are mostly black (all over their backs, heads and tails) except for a white chin and stomach. Sometimes they even have four white paws, too.
They do look like they're wearing tuxedos.
Sylvester is the most famous specimen.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:40:16am |
re: #360 Killian Bundy
Dumb, but whatever.
/it's probably worth 2-3 points
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:40:57am |
re: #358 Killian Bundy
when does the statute of limitations on white guilt expire?
It will be fed, watered, and fertilized if Obama is elected (G-d forbid.)
Not that it helps blacks. A quick look at Obama's areas in Chicago shows that it only makes things worse. His areas are hellholes today as Chicago just finished a summer with more murders in one city than combat deaths for American soldiers in the entire country of Iraq.
Obama is a destroyer, and his pushing of white guilt is part of what he does.
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:41:39am |
re: #358 Killian Bundy
I lie to pollsters no matter the color of the candidate because I believe there is no value in any conservative thinking they can stay home election day.
Not a day in my life has the media in my area been on my side but once in awhile a conservative slips through the cracks.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:42:03am |
re: #49 hermeneutics
Good evening, Lizards
Did anyone see Palin on SNL? If yes, please describe in 100 words or less.
I saw it. I skipped everything but her two sketches. She was beautiful, natural, poised, and her timing and delivery was great. I know a lot of people are afraid to watch it, but I LOVED it, and I think she helped herself quite a lot tonight. People will see that she isn't the bimbo portrayed by Fey every week...and she can laugh at the parodies of herself. It's all good.
No question in my mind this was a very good move.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:43:19am |
re: #363 Adina in Judea
Only because the Rethuglicans are dumping all that money they could use to help those communities into some senseless war abroad, thus negating Obama's efforts!
/it's so easy to replicate their logic it scares me...
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:43:43am |
re: #365 capitalist piglet
Good news.. I forgot to record it..
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:44:19am |
re: #359 Gus 802
The Bradley Effect happened in California.
California helps set the standard for liberal thinking.
I think it could still happen elsewhere.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:45:13am |
If my life were on the line, I wouldn't hire Barack Obama as my lawyer. I'd be concerned that he'd be up late at night working on a draft of his book about how my case affected his life.
Wow. Nailed it.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:45:38am |
re: #361 Moe Katz
What about AOK the kitten?
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:45:49am |
re: #363 Adina in Judea
It will be fed, watered, and fertilized if Obama is elected (G-d forbid.)
Not that it helps blacks. A quick look at Obama's areas in Chicago shows that it only makes things worse. His areas are hellholes today as Chicago just finished a summer with more murders in one city than combat deaths for American soldiers in the entire country of Iraq.
Obama is a destroyer, and his pushing of white guilt is part of what he does.
I have no doubt that slavery reparations will quickly be added to the Congressional agenda.
/and then we can all argue about how "black" we are
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:45:53am |
re: #368 Adina in Judea
The Bradley Effect happened in California.
California helps set the standard for liberal thinking.
I think it could still happen elsewhere.
Especially if a lot of people are fed up with being browbeaten into supporting Obama for the sake of racial reconciliation.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:47:09am |
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:48:15am |
re: #368 Adina in Judea
Then I could be wrong. I have lived in San Francisco and in some liberal areas. I do remember many confessionals from liberals which counter the PC stereotype -- in private.
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Killian Bundy Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:48:23am |
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:48:29am |
re: #361 Moe Katz
Sylvester is the most famous specimen.
I had a cat like that once - complete with four white paws.
He also had very long fur.
He was quite beautiful in his tuxedo fur, especially after being groomed.
He didn't care for the bow on his head that the groomers put on him, though.
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:48:44am |
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:49:27am |
re: #376 Adina in Judea
I had a cat like that once - complete with four white paws.
He also had very long fur.
He was quite beautiful in his tuxedo fur, especially after being groomed.
He didn't care for the bow on his head that the groomers put on him, though.
They are beautiful cats. Never had one like that, though---I've had pure white, gray tabbies, marmalade toms.
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laZardo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:51:22am |
re: #371 Killian Bundy
Since I'm Filipino I might be eligible for "colonial" reparations instead. |=
/great-grandparents were revolutionaries in 1896 against the Spaniards, as it happens...
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:51:27am |
re: #370 Fenway_Nation
What about AOK the kitten?
Careful, there are some stomach-turning pics in that link.
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capitalist piglet Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:51:31am |
re: #306 Pawn of the Oppressor
On the bright side, I just watched Palin on SNL.
I'm sorry, y'all can complain about it if you like, but when Amy Pohler "shot" the moose, I laughed until I cried.
Me too. That whole rap thing was hilarious. Sarah was so cool, too.
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:52:12am |
re: #378 Moe Katz
My favorite cat was Tuxedo. He could retrieve as well as his brother. Smart little cat and very attached.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:53:22am |
re: #382 Gus 802
My favorite cat was Tuxedo. He could retrieve as well as his brother. Smart little cat and very attached.
Never seen a cat retrieve, that's impressive.
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vbspurs Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:53:24am |
Hey peeps! I noticed the SNL chatter on LGF was not very copious in the previous thread (or this one). Since the Blogosphere is burning up with Palin on SNL chatter, I posted the two skit videos in the Spinoff Links.
I have to say that I thought she did FABU, considering she was a dead duck going there. All in all, though they ribbed her, she more than held her own.
Who doesn't love Palin wearing knee-high boots, bopping her head to a great rap song?
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:54:23am |
re: #380 victor_yugo
I know....and by the authour's own account, things were looking pretty grim for little AOK. However, after some grease, oil and shoving, I'd say it worked out for the kitten.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:54:42am |
re: #374 Gus 802
Then I could be wrong. I have lived in San Francisco and in some liberal areas. I do remember many confessionals from liberals which counter the PC stereotype -- in private.
Me too. Even a woman friend who adopted two biracial kids but in private was not uncritical of black political orthodoxies.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:55:17am |
re: #385 Fenway_Nation
I know....and by the authour's own account, things were looking pretty grim for little AOK. However, after some grease, oil and shoving, I'd say it worked out for the kitten.
Nothing like a little lubricant for a tight pussy.
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HelloDare Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:55:38am |
I think the Bradley Effect is a bunch of hooey. Maybe back then it way in play, but not now.
Just an easy answer for what may happen -- Barack losing.
Did Truman win because of the Bradley Effect? Hard to see how that could have happened.
With so many negative reasons not to vote for Obama, why would somebody be compelled to lie and say they are voting for him?
Okay, if you're black, there may be a lot of pressure to lie.
Race is a positive factor for Obama. More people are voting for him just because he is black than are voting against him because he's black. There's no doubt about that.
And there was a poll awhile back that showed that McCain's age was a bigger negative than Barack's race.
A lot of this talk of the Bradley Effect is just the liberals fanning the embers of perceived racism.
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Metal Man Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:56:00am |
re: #382 Gus 802
I have cats only because without them I would have mice. I kinda have become attached to my cats but have never seen any indication I could train them:)
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:56:02am |
re: #365 capitalist piglet
People will see that she isn't the bimbo portrayed by Fey every week...and she can laugh at the parodies of herself. It's all good.
Actually, I found myself agreeing with the words Tina Fey was putting in Sarah Palin's mouth, especially the part about "which parts aren't patriotic".
As they say, the best humor is based in reality.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:56:33am |
re: #377 Metal Man
She is in only 2 sketches and the other is also at the same link.
Great! thanks
You know what is sad about Joe the Plumber?
Last month he was an investment banker
-Jay Leno
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:57:06am |
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Gus 802 Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:57:34am |
re: #383 Moe Katz
I thought it was too. Had another one, a Russian Blue, that would retrieve a rolled up newspaper, grudgingly, but only when I whistled.
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Moe Katz Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:57:37am |
re: #392 victor_yugo
*smack*
/doing Mandy's job in her absence
Yes, and well deserved it would have been. Could never resist a pun waiting to be made.
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:58:57am |
re: #388 HelloDare
Just an easy answer for what may happen -- Barack losing.
No, it's an easy answer for the polls being wrong. Not just "wrong," but "totally f$^*ing wrong."
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 19, 2008 1:59:17am |
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 19, 2008 2:00:01am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------------>
Help yourselves!
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Adina in Judea Sun, Oct 19, 2008 2:02:02am |
The main thing to remember about the polls is that when they're wrong, they're never wrong in favor of Republicans. When they turn out to be wrong, they have always been wrong by showing polls too high for Democrats.
This has happened over and over again in the last 30 years, at least.
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Fenway_Nation Sun, Oct 19, 2008 2:02:19am |
re: #397 littleoldlady
Looks like your Phillies are one game away from a clash with the Red Sox at Fenway to open up the World Series.
/Then again, they've been one game away from a clash with the Devil Rays at Tampa to open up the World Series ever since the bottom of the 7th Thursday night.
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victor_yugo Sun, Oct 19, 2008 2:03:19am |
re: #395 victor_yugo
As an add-on, the Weekly Reader poll is devoid of the Bradley Effect. Because the kids know what the adults are saying behind closed doors.
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littleoldlady Sun, Oct 19, 2008 2:03:30am |
laZardo! :-)
victor! :-)
Best offer I've had today!
/so far
// "mwah* backatcha!
