Congratulation to Tampa Bay!

What?

Tonight we watched the new DVD release of "The Outlaw Jose Wales", 1976.
Besides being a superlative story, the sound score of the movie is excellent.
There were some cello parts in there that gave me chicken skin.
They just don't make them like that anymore.

Oh boy, I comment here. And I'll see y'all in about 6 or 8 hours. Keep the engine running.

Great quote! Unfortunately for Obama Joe the Plumber asked the right question and Obama gave the wrong answer!

Downside of Democracy we had not planned for. Complete morons having the vote. Gah!

re: #6 JohnAdams

Downside of Democracy we had not planned for. Complete morons having the vote. Gah!

Plato saw it coming, so did the Federalist Papers, and that's why we are after all a republic, but even so.

re: #3 rawmuse

Tonight we watched the new DVD release of "The Outlaw Jose Wales", 1976.
Besides being a superlative story, the sound score of the movie is excellent.
There were some cello parts in there that gave me chicken skin.
They just don't make them like that anymore.

Great movie. Complex, fun.

re: #6 JohnAdams

Morons make up a certain percentage of the population, the actual amount is in dispute at the moment. But, whatever the percentage, always remember,
they deserve representation as well, and, by all evidence, they get it, in spades.

re: #9 rawmuse

Morons make up a certain percentage of the population, the actual amount is in dispute at the moment. But, whatever the percentage, always remember,
they deserve representation as well, and, by all evidence, they get it, in spades.

Corollary is that any campaign should spend a certain amount of effort, aimed at convincing the morons.

re: #8 pat

Great movie. Complex, fun.

Very good movie by Eastwood but I have a liking for Sam Elliots roles.

still think we need Jeremiah Wright round the clock to win this thing.

Hawaii ends universal health care...?

HONOLULU – Hawaii is dropping the only state universal child health care program in the country just seven months after it launched.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #9 rawmuse

Morons make up a certain percentage of the population, the actual amount is in dispute at the moment. But, whatever the percentage, always remember,
they deserve representation as well, and, by all evidence, they get it, in spades.

This is too good to be glossed over. This should find its happy little way into a book of quotes. In the meantime it is going into my heat list.

Well isn't this special: 'Family Guy' Character Wears Nazi Uniform With McCain-Palin Button
Go F*ck yourself McFartlane you socialist pinko commie PIG! G-D! I just can't take it with all this teens drinking everything this guy says on his tasteless, unfunny shows. You would think he would appreciate America more since McFartlane almost got killed on 9/11(his flight got canceled). But being a socialist liberal I guess that doesn't apply to him. What a scumbag.

heart list

I spent part of the day doing a tour of Craftsman-style houses in Pasadena. While driving from house to house I noticed Obama signs outnumbered McCain signs about four to one, perhaps twenty Obama signs to five for McCain (actually, I expected a greater ratio).
One thing, however, became readily apparent as the day went on. I noticed every house sporting a McCain sign also displayed the flag. So, I kept a mental log at each house with the candidate's signs. The final tally of flag-adorned houses:
Houses with McCain signs--Five
Houses with Obama signs---Obama; i.e., Zero.

Take it for what it's worth.

In all seriousness, morons are well represented. After they complete high school, we send them to college. Now who's really the morons.

re: #3 rawmuse

Great movie, Muse! My favorite western and my favorite Clint Eastwood movie...great lines, great acting, great score....great everything

re: #15 conservativeChick

Well isn't this special: 'Family Guy' Character Wears Nazi Uniform With McCain-Palin Button
Go F*ck yourself McFartlane you socialist pinko commie PIG! G-D! I just can't take it with all this teens drinking everything this guy says on his tasteless, unfunny shows. You would think he would appreciate America more since McFartlane almost got killed on 9/11(his flight got canceled). But being a socialist liberal I guess that doesn't apply to him. What a scumbag.

This is Holocaust Denial, plain and simple. If EVERYONE'S Hitler, then no one is.

Powerline talks about Chuck Hagel for Secretary of Defeat, er, Defense, in the Obamanation.

Hagel has the IQ of a houseplant, could he really be SecDef, could that possibly work, or would we simply have a military coup?

FBV, if you're still here you wanted bubblewrap?

What I really don't understand is why his supporters don't care how much the guy lies. All the crap about Bush lied people died - and this guy is caught lying all the time. Not only lies, but certainly abuses his power constantly. So many red flags and these morons find so many excuses to dismiss it all, sort of like being in a highly dysfunctional relationship... but I love him... he lies, he has things taken off of You Tube, he has Jerome Corsi deported on his fact finding mission, what else? The list is so long.

Would anyone here hire someone like this? He has so much to hide as well which they don't care about either. Obviously if all this were going on with McCain, he would have been toast long ago. Would anyone date a guy like this? (other than michelle)

2004 I knew polls were wrong in Nevada
This year not so sure. Obama people everywhere. I do enjoy answering when they ask me if I will vote for their Messiah. Sorry , dont vote for anyone who could tolerate Jeremiah Wright for 20 yrs.

re: #15 conservativeChick

Well isn't this special: 'Family Guy' Character Wears Nazi Uniform With McCain-Palin Button
Go F*ck yourself McFartlane you socialist pinko commie PIG! G-D! I just can't take it with all this teens drinking everything this guy says on his tasteless, unfunny shows. You would think he would appreciate America more since McFartlane almost got killed on 9/11(his flight got canceled). But being a socialist liberal I guess that doesn't apply to him. What a scumbag.

I am never watching Family Guy again.

re: #5 nigella

Great quote! Unfortunately for Obama Joe the Plumber asked the right question and Obama gave the wrong answer!

And if 65% of dems disapprove of Joe, then maybe 35% of the LIKE him and every % point helps us.

re: #16 swamprat

Wish I could take responsibility for it, but it is not original.
But I think it is a quote from a Democrat, one of the unabashed ones.
I am thinking Jesse Unruh.

re: #18 saltmarsh
They have their own sub-culture. You can see the "slow children at play" signs

Later when they become employed you can see the "slow men at work" signs

it's all good

I just got back from a weekend in Vermont & New Hampshire. Lovely country but man it is liberal land. Obama signs everywhere. I felt like an endangered species. And under the Dem Administration and Dem version of the ESA, I would not be protected.

So, anyway, if you read the MSM and you live in states like Vermont. N.H. or in my state, N.J. , you may think this is over. However, I am not willing to buy the hype. I know Brokaw would like to interview BHO's cabinet members and Matthews is waiting for McCain to come on his show to concede to save us all the trouble, but I am of the belief that we may have a Truman defeats Dewey headline awaiting us. For those who live in battleground states, your view? What are you hearing?

re: #25 TheMatrix31

I am never watching Family Guy again.

A show with an evil infant just ain't my thing. They just seem like libs

re: #27 rawmuse

It's a gem, none the less.

re: #25 TheMatrix31

I haven't watch them in over a year. I see that am not missing much. That show is unfunny and should of stayed dead and buried! South Park is funner and better. Take my word for it.

Oh yeah, I've even heard people say that George Soros is a really great guy who has done so much good. So, telling them that BO is his puppet doesn't worry them.

All I can say is if obama is elected no one will ever vote Dem again. If the damage is reversible that is.

re: #15 conservativeChick

Well isn't this special: 'Family Guy' Character Wears Nazi Uniform With McCain-Palin Button
Go F*ck yourself McFartlane you socialist pinko commie PIG! G-D! I just can't take it with all this teens drinking everything this guy says on his tasteless, unfunny shows. You would think he would appreciate America more since McFartlane almost got killed on 9/11(his flight got canceled). But being a socialist liberal I guess that doesn't apply to him. What a scumbag.

Take note, Nazism = National Socialism. It had a racist bent to go with it, race based collectivism.

Now, who in this election is promoting socialism? And who in this election was a member of a racist church for some twenty years and has racist friends? From what I've seen of Obama, via postmodernism, he is race obsessed.

If anyone can be accused of being a Nazi, it's clearly Obama. That he is a Nazi, I don't know, but he has some of the essential elements.

re: #30 SpartanWoman

A Gay and evil baby as McFartlane said in a interview. What a nutcase.

re: #30 SpartanWoman

A show with an evil infant just ain't my thing. They just seem like libs

What are you going to boycott next? Saran Wrap. Only libs reheat food.

re: #29 wright1

I've been boring everyone to death with the assertion that McCain will win Missouri. I stand by it.

president -elect Obama makes me so sick I want to puke. Please everyone do something,here in Nevada there are still many Jews voting for Obama,I am trying to work this crowd. McCain will do better than Bush among Jews but McCain did not engage this community at all and there are 80,000 Jews here.

re: #26 SpartanWoman

And if 65% of dems disapprove of Joe, then maybe 35% of the LIKE him and every % point helps us.

So 65% of democrats disapprove of Joe, and dems are about 45-50% of the population. So that means only 25-30% of the population doesn't like Joe. The other 70-75% do.

re: #20 Palandine

This is Holocaust Denial, plain and simple. If EVERYONE'S Hitler, then no one is.

Great point. Never thought of it that way before. I thought it was just a garden variety juvenile minded insult.

re: #29 wright1

I just got back from a weekend in Vermont & New Hampshire. Lovely country but man it is liberal land. Obama signs everywhere. I felt like an endangered species. And under the Dem Administration and Dem version of the ESA, I would not be protected.

So, anyway, if you read the MSM and you live in states like Vermont. N.H. or in my state, N.J. , you may think this is over. However, I am not willing to buy the hype. I know Brokaw would like to interview BHO's cabinet members and Matthews is waiting for McCain to come on his show to concede to save us all the trouble, but I am of the belief that we may have a Truman defeats Dewey headline awaiting us. For those who live in battleground states, your view? What are you hearing?

Lots of McCain signs in safe NJ neighborhoods, by safe I mean like minded places where you don't expect vandals. In neighborhoods with high traffic less signs. When I see empty yards that are normally peppered with Dem signs, I take encouragement that perhaps a PUMA lives there!

Who can I contact about the Family Guy thing?

re: #40 rawmuse

Great point. Never thought of it that way before. I thought it was just a garden variety juvenile minded insult.

Arguments about political values usually gravitate toward someone getting called that. This person is called the Designated Hitler.

re: #42 TheMatrix31

I would guess Fox. Good luck with that.

re: #37 Palandine

I've been boring everyone to death with the assertion that McCain will win Missouri. I stand by it.

Where are you in MO.?

re: #37 Palandine

Not boring to me - love to hear it. Hope and pray it is true.

re: #40 rawmuse

Great point. Never thought of it that way before. I thought it was just a garden variety juvenile minded insult.

For a year I received Rolling Stone magazine. Never ordered it, never paid for it, it just arrived. When Giuliani was still in the running, Matt Taibi wrote an article with the assertion that Giuliani was worse than Hitler.

Once you start with the assertion that a linguine-spined moderate like Bush is Hitler, you really have no where to go. McCain will win, and he's even more moderate than Bush (we will have to hold his feet to the fire) and was the media's bestest buddy for 7 years, yet he too will be worse than Hitler. It'd be laughable if people didn't actually believe it.

re: #44 conservativeChick

I would guess Fox. Good luck with that.

I searched "Fox Contact Information" and nothing concrete came up.

...A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth. She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed.

Based on the lectures that she had participated in and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his. One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father.

He responded by asking how she was doing in school. Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on Campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'

Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's Office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.' The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back,

'That's a crazy idea, and how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!' The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'

re: #38 vegasjew

president -elect Obama makes me so sick I want to puke. Please everyone do something,here in Nevada there are still many Jews voting for Obama,I am trying to work this crowd. McCain will do better than Bush among Jews but McCain did not engage this community at all and there are 80,000 Jews here.

Lieberman needs to sh** or get off the pot.

I will try Fox Broadcasting.

re: #29 wright1

Whereabouts in NH were you?

re: #41 SpartanWoman

Right but while I am optimistic we will win despite the hype, N.J. is such a Dem state and a political cesspool that I cannot see it going for McCain. Of course I hope to be proven wrong.

sarah coming here Tuesday
should help

re: #48 TheMatrix31

Try contacting the guys at Newsbusters. They might have it.

re: #25 TheMatrix31

Consider chucking the whole TV.

TV is a passive time-sink. So much does not happen when the TV is on.

re: #43 Moe Katz

Designated Hitler? That is truly unfortunate, as it it a sure fire sign of a) intellectual poverty and/or b) begging to be punched in the nose.

re: #15 conservativeChick
Just fucking sickening.

re: #15 conservativeChick

I suspect that the whole business with the "baby" (Stewie) is a take off, or a borrowing from Gunter Grass and The Tin Drum...Grass (a German) recently revealed that he was a member of the Waffen-SS. Figures, I guess...I never liked Grass.

re: #53 wright1

Right but while I am optimistic we will win despite the hype, N.J. is such a Dem state and a political cesspool that I cannot see it going for McCain. Of course I hope to be proven wrong.

Well we do have a lot of PUMAs here so you never know. It might be a tighter election than we think as many Hillary people aren't out there yelling Nobama

re: #29 wright1

I just got back from a weekend in Vermont & New Hampshire. Lovely country but man it is liberal land. Obama signs everywhere. I felt like an endangered species. And under the Dem Administration and Dem version of the ESA, I would not be protected.

So, anyway, if you read the MSM and you live in states like Vermont. N.H. or in my state, N.J. , you may think this is over. However, I am not willing to buy the hype. I know Brokaw would like to interview BHO's cabinet members and Matthews is waiting for McCain to come on his show to concede to save us all the trouble, but I am of the belief that we may have a Truman defeats Dewey headline awaiting us. For those who live in battleground states, your view? What are you hearing?

I am not buying any of the polls. I have seen hardly any Obama signs in Libby Land So Cal. There were 10x as many Kerry/Edwards stickers in 2004.

In fact, even today I still see more Kerry/Edwards stickers on cars than Obama stickers, even in the parking lot of WHOLE FOODS.

I get a sick feeling every time I see an Obama sticker so I am hyper sensitive to it but HONESTLY I have been baffled at the lack of signs.

The wrong question:
Senator Obama, what was your relationship with Bill Ayers?
The right question:
Senator Obama, will you pursue the same failed radical socialist changes in education as you did while spending over $50 million of other peoples money, with ZERO results, working with the unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers?

Power to the Correct People!
(They ask the right questions.)

re: #45 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Where are you in MO.?

People's Republic of St. Louis, but I drive a lot to Bourbon and Ironton and all around mid-Missouri to fish and camp.

When Santa brings me a digital camera this Christmas, I'm going to make the water tower marked "Bourbon" my avatar. :)

re: #29 wright1

I thought New Hampshire was a marginal swing state? Haven't the Palins been spending some time up that way recently?

re: #49 ghost707

Niiiice. up-ding for you, wish I could give you two.

re: #61 odinga

What gets me is that when I encounter vehicles with Obama stickers...they're either foreign SUVs/sports cars...or hybrid vehicles.

re: #64 AussieMarcus

Yes - she was here last week, and Senator Mc will be here this week.

re: #23 Teacake!

I don't know about dating him, my wife might get jealous.

In addition to being vacuous and prone to exaggeration and outright deceit, Obama is also ambitious. So great is his desire for this job and all the power, fame and fortune it entails, that he is will apparently say whatever is necessary to whom ever it is necessary to say it to.

Add that to the fact that he has completely altered the way Presidents in the USA get elected now with his fundraising strategy. From this point on, BIG money will be needed to win the Presidential election. By the time this race is over, he will have out spent what Kerry and Bush spent in 2004 combined. Where some of this money is coming from is anyone's guess. Some or maybe even most are small time donors, and there is nothing wrong with that. It is the sneaky and shady contributors Obama is getting money from that bothers me. Anyone who gives a lot of money is expecting more than the Chris Matthews type sensation up one's leg...they want influence. Question is WHO wants that influence?

And, add the fact that his associations with ACORN and their ilk make this election the most corrupt of modern times. How many dead, illegal, non-residence, phony, fake and double/triple voters will cast a vote for Obama? His ground troops have one goal on their minds and it does not matter how or by what means, just as long as their "Great Leader" gets in.

And, finally, add that to his willingness to make nice with a rather large assortment of radical and unsavory associations when it suits him politically.
He is a train wreck waiting to happen. Unfortunately, we are all on board with him.....

re: #48 TheMatrix31

Try your local station. This all I can do.

re: #57 rawmuse

Designated Hitler? That is truly unfortunate, as it it a sure fire sign of a) intellectual poverty and/or b) begging to be punched in the nose.

Wow, a strong response to a harmlessly intended bit of wordplay....

re: #63 Palandine

People's Republic of St. Louis, but I drive a lot to Bourbon and Ironton and all around mid-Missouri to fish and camp.

When Santa brings me a digital camera this Christmas, I'm going to make the water tower marked "Bourbon" my avatar. :)

LOL! I didn't know the was a Boubon, MO.

re: #25 TheMatrix31

I am never watching Family Guy again.

I came to the same conclusion long ago, just watching the show itself.

re: #70 Moe Katz

Wow, a strong response to a harmlessly intended bit of wordplay....

I meant to the person calling another "Hitler". Fighting language. That is what that is called. Usually followed by fist play.

No offense to you is intended.

re: #64 AussieMarcus

I thought New Hampshire was a marginal swing state? Haven't the Palins been spending some time up that way recently?

You would never know it - but then again I was in Hanover which is where Dartmouth is and it is big time Dem. All those rich kids who feel guilt about being born into money so they are big libs. Plus, it is a breeding ground educationally for the Hate America crowd. I walked into the Dartmouth bookstore - all Hate Bush, conservatives, yada yada. I was getting ill when I saw Obama's book on his faith in the Religion section! No kidding! As if he was a prophet or something.

Joe the Plumbah!

Not Obamah!

Palin/Plumber in 2012!

I always wonder why Ayers' piece was published on September 11th. Most say bad luck but given his associations with Khalidi, et al are we really sure he did not expect the world to tremble helplessly and side with him and his ilk? Even if he had a week in mind, why that week?

Everytime I think of Ayers and his skeevy wife I get nauseated,longish ayres tape with part of hillary debate

I don't get the Obama thing. I mean, he's bored me from the start.

re: #73 rawmuse

I meant to the person calling another "Hitler". Fighting language. That is what that is called. Usually followed by fist play.

No offense to you is intended.

Oh, I see. Then you will permit me to add that there no Designated Hitler in the National Socialist League.

McCain is spending so much time in PA
these polls just have to be wrong. If he were really down 12 in PA, I think all PA stops would shift to OHIO and VA and MO where he must win ALL.

re: #72 gmsc

I came to the same conclusion long ago, just watching the show itself.

It really does not appeal to me on its own lack of merits.

re: #42 TheMatrix31

Who can I contact about the Family Guy thing?

The network will ignore you. Hit 'em where it hurts, and write the advertisers. Express your shock that they would financially support jokes about Nazi references.

re: #17 solomonpanting

I spent part of the day doing a tour of Craftsman-style houses in Pasadena. While driving from house to house I noticed Obama signs outnumbered McCain signs about four to one, perhaps twenty Obama signs to five for McCain (actually, I expected a greater ratio).
One thing, however, became readily apparent as the day went on. I noticed every house sporting a McCain sign also displayed the flag. So, I kept a mental log at each house with the candidate's signs. The final tally of flag-adorned houses:
Houses with McCain signs--Five
Houses with Obama signs---Obama; i.e., Zero.

Take it for what it's worth.

The flag is nationalistic nonsense to Obama supporters, at least until the day they need to hide behind it.

I keep hearing different things about which states are in play, who's doing well here, who's struggling there, etc. From overseas it's difficult to get a true idea of the situation. So can I ask you guys to put away the conservative badges for a minute and try to be as honest and impartial as possible..

Which red states are genuinely at risk of being lost?
Which blue states does McCain/Palin have a genuine chance of winning?

Any reasons for the above would be great too.

re: #71 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL! I didn't know the was a Boubon, MO.

A shot of Bourbon

re: #81 gmsc

Good point. I didn't think of that. That will really get them. Thanks gmsc!

re: #78 Moe Katz

Oh, I see. Then you will permit me to add that there no Designated Hitler in the National Socialist League.

What is that?

re: #86 rawmuse

What is that?

There is no Designated Hitter in the National Baseball League. A failed pun

re: #85 conservativeChick

Good point. I didn't think of that. That will really get them. Thanks gmsc!

You're welcome.

re Aussie
he could lose NM COLO VA OHIO FLA
he has shot to pick up PA NH
though traditionally you have to be about 5 % ahead in OHIO to be even in PA

re: #87 Moe Katz

Next time, rim shot.

re: #74 wright1

That's what always confused me about the NorthEast. Those states are so lily-white some people probably only see minorities on t.v. But somehow they feel guilty for their oppression.

/kooky

"People who were already able to afford health care began to stop paying for it so they could get it for free," said Dr. Kenny Fink, the administrator for Med-QUEST at the Department of Human Services. "I don't believe that was the intent of the program."

Ya think?

Good NRA NObama commercial

re: #83 AussieMarcus

RealClear Politics has an electoral map...here...

Speaking of der Nazionalsozialistiche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei:
The Obama Salute's Creepy predecessor.

re: #83 AussieMarcus

It is difficult to answer because the polls are driven by idealogue pollsters to alter the ultimate poll - election day. Hard to say if Florida and Ohio are in BHO's camp or Colorodo. You cannot trust the polls because the are driven by agenda. Gore and Kerry were wrong. So, we have to assume BHO is wrong too. But having said that, McCain needs Ohio and Florida and Colorodo or some other surprise state like Minnesota

Obama clarifies that he actually told Joe the Plumber:

"Spread the health around."

Meaning he wants people to exercise more.

And eat fewer fried foods.

"You don't think I'd say something as stupid as 'Spread the wealth around' do ya?" he asked of nodding, chuckling reporters. "

That would be so petit bourgeois," he added.

re: #79 vegasjew

McCain is spending so much time in PA
these polls just have to be wrong. If he were really down 12 in PA, I think all PA stops would shift to OHIO and VA and MO where he must win ALL.

The big thing is, Pa. now has 1.2 million more registered Dems. than Reps. ACORN registered 600,000 this year. But yeah, something is up here and I sense it two. We're not dead yet.

re: #97 profitsbeard

So he's saying we need to eat more arugula?

Here's my submission to my local FOX affiliate;

---
I can honestly say I've never been truly offended by anything I've seen on a sitcom, but tonight's Family Guy episode broke that trend.

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

In this episode, Stewie, dressed up as a Nazi, has a McCain/Palin button on the uniform.

How offensive is this? Well, consider the fact that millions of people are going to see this episode and have the disgusting idea perpetuated in their minds that John McCain, Sarah Palin, Republicans, Conservatives, etc are Nazis. That is not fair, and is absolutely ridiculous, especially considering that John McCain spent 5 years of his life being tortured for Seth McFarlane's right to make such distasteful jokes and insinuations.

I didn't know who to contact, so I contacted my local FOX affiliate. I will never watch another episode of Family Guy (or American Dad, for that matter) again.

Thank you.
---

Where can I find a list of their sponsors?

re: #83 AussieMarcus

Virginia, Indiana, Colorado, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Missouri and N. Dakota are in play for Obama.

McCain is really not looking good in any "Blue" states

He has to repeat Bush 2004 to win and if Obama takes more than a few of the ones list above, it's over. The popular vote does not matter this time around, because that will be close. If McCain does not get it going, it is looking grim.

Of course, it is hard to tell with the polls this time around. They are not accurately reflecting the actualities. I would guess there is a skew leaning towards the Democrats not only in the press, but the polls. McCain can always count on more voters than the pollsters are guessing. BUT, Obama is getting more voters out this time around too.....he is certainly more motivating that JFingKerry ever was

Read it and Weep

But, fear not, that is why they have the elections.....to see who wins, it is not over yet.

Zogby has Obama up 2.7%, a statistical tie.

re: #100 TheMatrix31

Where can I find a list of their sponsors?

On the shelves of your local supermarket.

Biden was in Mesilla, NM (suburb of Las Cruces) on Friday - 2500 people
Paden was in Roswell today - 10,000 people

re aussie
on that map McCain would have to win all the grey states flip VA and Obama would have 273
McCain would still need Colo or Pa or NM
a possibility with a win in NH flip VA win the greys for a 269-269 tie

Make no mistake, America is PISSED at what Obama and the MSM have done to Joe the Plumber.
There will be retribution at the polls - unlike anything in this country's history.

Obama is going to lose this one.

re: #98 x-wing

The big thing is, Pa. now has 1.2 million more registered Dems. than Reps. ACORN registered 600,000 this year. But yeah, something is up here and I sense it two. We're not dead yet.

Some of the Pennsy dems were Operation Chaos types

re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Look at the state races....Obama does.....he does not care about the popular vote...he is looking at the electoral votes. He barely beat Hillary in the votes casts, but he won big in delegates. He is running a smart campaign. Watch the state polls this week....they should start showing the pendulum swinging a little for McCain....I hope it's enough

re: #104 Onamesa

Biden was in Mesilla, NM (suburb of Las Cruces) on Friday - 2500 people
Paden was in Roswell today - 10,000 people

Damn. That is like a 4X increase in an area that has 1/4 the population.

re: #104 Onamesa

Biden was in Mesilla, NM (suburb of Las Cruces) on Friday - 2500 people
Paden was in Roswell today - 10,000 people

Did she find any aliens (illegal or otherwise)?

/kidding

re: #94 J.S. Hey thanks for the chucle - they have West Virginia as a toss up state!
LOL!
The original "Bitter, Angry White people clinging to their guns and their faith" state! LOL!

Also, I disagree with them about North Carolina (where I live) = have seen mucho McCain signs, only one Obama sign and that was actually a bumper sticker on a fast moving car!

For solidly-based optimism and anti-Eeyore enthusiasm, check out the Hillbuzz blog. This collective of midwestern gay PUMAs are great.

re: #111 realwest

Hey thanks for the chucle - they have West Virginia as a toss up state!
LOL!
The original "Bitter, Angry White people clinging to their guns and their faith" state! LOL!

Also, I disagree with them about North Carolina (where I live) = have seen mucho McCain signs, only one Obama sign and that was actually a bumper sticker on a fast moving car!

What part of the state are you in, central, piedmont, where?

re: #100 TheMatrix31

Where can I find a list of their sponsors?

Here's a good place to start.

Finding a list of sponsors via Google is tough, especially as you have to weed through all the news stories about that show losing sponsors.

re: #108 Desert Dog

Look at the state races....Obama does.....he does not care about the popular vote...he is looking at the electoral votes. He barely beat Hillary in the votes casts, but he won big in delegates. He is running a smart campaign. Watch the state polls this week....they should start showing the pendulum swinging a little for McCain....I hope it's enough

In the primary Obama won mostly red states, Hillary won the big blues and many big blues felt cheated

I honestly think that the Dems and Obama are behind a national voter fraud attempt. I wish Bush would get off his ass. He is such a whooose. Can you imagine LBJ in similar circumstances?

bad news you can get 640 for every 100 wagered on Mccain at Matchbook.com a very sharp site. Hard to believe insider money with access to good internals are not wagering there. Have to go throw up excuse me. Though I did get my Ayers flyer in the mail today.

re: #107 SpartanWoman

Some of the Pennsy dems were Operation Chaos types

Yeah, alot did switch back though, claiming they felt creepy being a Dem. True story one of the election bosses said it on t.v.

re: #100 TheMatrix31
Nice letter - for a list of their sponsors, however, I'm afraid you'll have to watch it again and take notes!

re: #61 odinga

I am not buying any of the polls. I have seen hardly any Obama signs in Libby Land So Cal. There were 10x as many Kerry/Edwards stickers in 2004.

In fact, even today I still see more Kerry/Edwards stickers on cars than Obama stickers, even in the parking lot of WHOLE FOODS.

I get a sick feeling every time I see an Obama sticker so I am hyper sensitive to it but HONESTLY I have been baffled at the lack of signs.

I wonder if all the Obama signage money has been diverted to TV spots.

re: #100 TheMatrix31

Where can I find a list of their sponsors?

Here's a more specific link than my previous one.

re: #102 Ozark Mountain Daredevil Yup, I mentioned that waaay back in the Dead Thread this morning - but it was released before Sir Colin announced he'd sold out his soul.

re: #114 gmsc

Thank you so much! I was looking everywhere for a list of there sponsors.

If any of you are registered at Amazon, go there and write some negative reviews for the many Ayers books for sale there. I wrote 2, but mine were the only ones there, the rest were all bunny rabbits and unicorns.

re: #121 gmsc

Here's a more specific link than my previous one.

Thanks! I'll check it out.

re: #118 x-wing

Yeah, alot did switch back though, claiming they felt creepy being a Dem. True story one of the election bosses said it on t.v.

And a lot were too busy to "switch back" or worried that their townships would see them for Rush people and hassle them.

re: #101 Desert Dog
"BUT, Obama is getting more voters out this time around too" I'm not so sure of that. Obama has registered more voters it's true (especially if you include the ACORN voters) but most of them are very young, college age types and that particular political group has historically, at least, had the LOWEST turn out of voters in history.
As for ACORN, well, they gotta count on being able to find the homeless and the drug addicts to drag their asses to the polls!

re: #9 rawmuse

Morons make up a certain percentage of the population, the actual amount is in dispute at the moment. But, whatever the percentage, always remember,
they deserve representation as well, and, by all evidence, they get it, in spades.

Two factoids,
1. half the population is of below average intelligence.
2. One in five people have some sort of serious mental problem. Consider your four closest friends, If they are normal, guess who isn't? (Yes, I have four normal friends, but am searching for one very weird one just for statistical purposes.)

So let's review.
A) - who really came to know the true cost of defending this nation - has decided that he'd rather have as Commander-in-Chief B)- whose strongest base is composed of like-minded folks who considered A) - and others like him - to be murderous, genocidal, baby killin' mother rapers.
A) has chosen to support B) instead of supporting C) - who really paid a stiff price for defending this nation.

Bizzaro logic.

There was a time when I considered Colin Powell to be CIC material -- that was before he got all "inside the beltway"ish and thought it better to dialog with evil rather than confront it. And obviously considers honor and duty to be outmoded concepts.

re: #1 aunursa

Congratulation to Tampa Bay!

Whew! They did it. I'm an NL fan but still hoping there wasn't going to be a Buckner interruption to a great season.

re: #111 realwest

Yeah....the polls...I'd have to check out their methodology...see just what's up...I heard something about Gallup polls and changes to the margin of error stat...again, have to check...what has Gallup changed? and why? (the margin of error is typically calculated by dividing 98% by the square root of the sample size)...

this early voting is such a sham . Acorn all set up here from primary battle with Hillary. They sober these guys up register them , the get them to early voting.

re: #113 Moe Katz
Western Piedmont - Charlotte - ya know the Soutern city where a lot of former NY, NJ and CONN folks come to find work!

re: #109 pat
Sorry, I meant Palin.

I think it explains why we are getting so many calls from the Obama campaign. Our family are all registered Republicans. He needs NM.
Plus, it's heavily Catholic and the Archbishops and Bishops are stepping up the pressure on their parishoners to vote for pro-life candidates.
My best friend lives in Hershey, PA and she told me that there was an insert in her Sunday RC church newletter outlining the positions of Senator Obama and Senator McCain. Also, Bishop Martino in the Diocese of Scranton wrote a serious letter to all the parishoners in Scranton reminding them of the Church's position on abortion. I believe this could have a huge effect on PA. Senator Obama's record on the Born Alive Act is not in his favor.

re: #120 Syrah
I really doubt that - hell his campaign said that Obama received $150,000,000 in September ALONE.
They have plenty of dough for everything.

re: #133 realwest

Western Piedmont - Charlotte - ya know the Soutern city where a lot of former NY, NJ and CONN folks come to find work!

Not to mention the attraction of NASCAR :)

re: #56 Syrah

Consider chucking the whole TV.

TV is a passive time-sink. So much does not happen when the TV is on.

Except laughter at 2 1/2 men.

re: #126 SpartanWoman

And a lot were too busy to "switch back" or worried that their townships would see them for Rush people and hassle them.

I totally agree, they will change back after the election I'm sure. I'm in a union and I haven't heard one pro- That One yet.

I think we're gonna deliver this state for Mac/Palin

Sean Penn visits Venezuela's Chavez for 2nd time

I guess Fidel is just not up to having visitors anymore.

re: #135 realwest

I really doubt that - hell his campaign said that Obama received $150,000,000 in September ALONE.
They have plenty of dough for everything.

Good; let him spend it buying pie for everyone - he can leave my money alone.

re: #3 rawmuse

Tonight we watched the new DVD release of "The Outlaw Jose Wales", 1976.
Besides being a superlative story, the sound score of the movie is excellent.
There were some cello parts in there that gave me chicken skin.
They just don't make them like that anymore.

My favorite Eastwood movie. So many great movie lines from that one. "Dyin ain't much of a livin boy." and "I didn't surrender, but they took my horse and made him surrender." and a million more.

re: #128 JeremyR

Don't forget, 1 in 3 people believes 9/11 was an "inside job".

re: #107 SpartanWoman

Some of the Pennsy dems were Operation Chaos types

And a boatload more of them are PUMAs. Hillary won PA pretty impressively, IIRC. Plus, PA is a major hunting state, and the rural folks do not appreciate being assessed by Obama as being "bitter, clinging to their guns and their religion".

Mac has a chance there, I believe. His internal polling must be showing him something, because he and Sarah are blitzing the state.

re: #142 DisgustingOratory

whoa. I don't believe that stat -- unless you're talking about S. Arabia or the UK (heh)...

re: #134 Onamesa

Senator Obama's record on the Born Alive Act is not in his favor.

I saw a very defensive ad on that this evening. Obviously, McCain/Palin is hitting him where it hurts.

re: #93 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Good NRA NObama commercial

I love those NRA ads! I've seen that particular one on TV a couple of times.

re: #145 victor_yugo
As they should. His record is disgraceful!

re: #143 Intrepid

And a boatload more of them are PUMAs. Hillary won PA pretty impressively, IIRC. Plus, PA is a major hunting state, and the rural folks do not appreciate being assessed by Obama as being "bitter, clinging to their guns and their religion".

Mac has a chance there, I believe. His internal polling must be showing him something, because he and Sarah are blitzing the state.

That would be a hell of an upset.

If McCain can take Pennsylvania, he can win this thing.

re: #139 solomonpanting

Sean Penn visits Venezuela's Chavez for 2nd time

I guess Fidel is just not up to having visitors anymore.

I wonder if Danny Glover and Kevin Spacey have their boarding passes yet?

I want to know when the whole Odinga /Obama issue is going to be aired?

re: #145 victor_yugo
I wish the hell McCain would run an ad that says something to the effect of "What hope and what change; most of Obama's advisors are people who advised Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter and he is the ONLY candidate for President in over 20 years to spurn public financing after pledging to accept it - in other words, he's getting too many donations from lobbysts and folks in the Middle East. And how did he defeat Hillary Clinton? Why with SuperDelegates, the 2008 version of old politicians sitting around in a smoke filled room - that's not change and it sure doesn't mean hope for a truly democratic and Free America."

The Catholic Church is doing a full court press saying that by voting for a pro-abortion candidate, you are participating in abortion. It's killing them, because the Church is also pro-union, pro-illegal immigration, and anti-death penalty, but they're taking their stand against a man who has a 100% NARAL rating and voted not to provide medical care to babies who survived abortion. Not all Catholics will follow that teaching, but some will. It's one thing to be pro-choice--it's another to be pro-infanticide.

Obama has a very dishonest ad going on in North Carolina right now where he has women saying "I used to believe in John McCain but he's against equal pay for women," etc.

No mention of the fact that McCain is paying the women on his own staff more than the men are getting (or that the women on Obama's staff are getting something like $.84 to the dollar compared to men.)

Obama is such a liar.

re: #139 solomonpanting

Sean Penn visits Venezuela's Chavez for 2nd time

I guess Fidel is just not up to having visitors anymore.

He's going there to give Hugo a shoulder to cry on. If oil prices get down below $85 and can stay there for a bit, Venezuela goes belly up.

(saw a link for that today....dang. Can't remember where!)

re: #143 Intrepid

Yes, Obama only carried 7 of our counties. They were all around Philly. Except for some areas aroud P-burg ,I can't see him taking the bitter clingy area. And that wont be enough to win. IMNSHO.

re: #150 Onamesa

I want to know when the whole Odinga /Obama issue is going to be aired?

I haven't read it yet, but here's the latest.

Obama funded foreign thug who promised Islamic state

re: #153 Adina in Judea

Obama has a very dishonest ad going on in North Carolina right now where he has women saying "I used to believe in John McCain but he's against equal pay for women," etc.

No mention of the fact that McCain is paying the women on his own staff more than the men are getting (or that the women on Obama's staff are getting something like $.84 to the dollar compared to men.)

Obama is such a liar.

Yeah, that sexist McCain, picking a woman to be his Vice President. :)

People don't actually fall for that sort of thing, do they?

re: #153 Adina in Judea

Obama has a very dishonest ad going on in North Carolina right now where he has women saying "I used to believe in John McCain but he's against equal pay for women," etc.

No mention of the fact that McCain is paying the women on his own staff more than the men are getting (or that the women on Obama's staff are getting something like $.84 to the dollar compared to men.)

That would seem like a pretty simple counter-ad to put together - Use the One's own words to point out his hypocrisy.

re: #152 Palandine

The Catholic Church is doing a full court press saying that by voting for a pro-abortion candidate, you are participating in abortion.

Good!

How can any Catholic vote for a pro-abortion stance that includes killing babies who survive abortions? Obama's reasoning for wanting to have babies killed if they survive abortions is that it would go against the mother's intentions to save a baby's life if he or she survived the abortion.

So, the person wanting another person dead has to be given more consideration than the innocent person who is trying to stay alive?

This is Obama in a nutshell.

I hope the Catholic Church clobbers him.

re: #155 x-wing

Yes, Obama only carried 7 of our counties. They were all around Philly. Except for some areas aroud P-burg ,I can't see him taking the bitter clingy area. And that wont be enough to win. IMNSHO.

What's the breakdown in population of a) Urban centers where Obama is likely to win, and b) Bitter/Clingy areas where he's not likely to do so?

re: #151 realwest

"What hope and what change?"

I've seen a couple ads that push that line. The "Change!" mantra is the emptiest slogan in recent memory.

My take on it: "Change what, From what, To what?"

A Campaign reduced to Obama- Whatever~!

The Rorschach Man in the Empty Suit.

(Which sounds like a Grahame Greene novel based on a Magritte painting.)

re: #156 Spellcheck
Thanks. I saw a series of articles on this at Gateway Pundit but nobody else seems to have picked it up.

re: #159 Adina in Judea

Good!

How can any Catholic vote for a pro-abortion stance that includes killing babies who survive abortions? Obama's reasoning for wanting to have babies killed if they survive abortions is that it would go against the mother's intentions to save a baby's life if he or she survived the abortion.

How could any HUMAN vote for that?

re: #143 Intrepid

I just wish my home state of Michigan would get the clue that the government it has has not delivered period on jobs, taxes, economic growth, etc because the State Government is too fat. I moved out West for job opportunities because Michigan is over flowing with skilled workers and not enough skilled jobs to go around!

re: #155 x-wing

As I recall, Opilio had some very detailed maps during the primaries that showed Obama taking the Philly area (of course) and the State College area. Period. I remember it because I was surprised that Hillary took Pittsburgh............and also because I wondered what that weird Obama spot was way out in the middle of nowhere! (We all determined that it was State College.)

Incredibly awesome ads:

[Link: www.neverfindout.org...]

Please email to all you know.

re: #154 Intrepid

He's going there to give Hugo a shoulder to cry on. If oil prices get down below $85 and can stay there for a bit, Venezuela goes belly up.

(saw a link for that today....dang. Can't remember where!)

The thing is , the USA is the only country paying full price for his oil. Since he nationalized oil,production has dropped 20-25 percent. He offers his "friends" discount oil prices,ie RFK Jr.

I still swear the fucking guy only made it through third grade.

I just don't know if this "Obama is a Socialist" strategy has merit.
The Clintons are both Third Way Socialists, hasn't hurt them.
W passed some of the most socialist bills in recent memory.
Nixon was a Big Gov. Republican.
The USA has been Socialist to some degree since the 16th Amendment (1913).

re: #154 Intrepid

He's going there to give Hugo a shoulder to cry on. If oil prices get down below $85 and can stay there for a bit, Venezuela goes belly up.

(saw a link for that today....dang. Can't remember where!)

I'd like to see Putin start sweating the drop in oil prices.

re: #149 victor_yugo

I wonder if Danny Glover and Kevin Spacey have their boarding passes yet?

If they love it so much. Why don't they get homes there and move their assets there. Put their money where their mouth is.

re: #169 rawmuse

I just don't know if this "Obama is a Socialist" strategy has merit.
The Clintons are both Third Way Socialists, hasn't hurt them.
W passed some of the most socialist bills in recent memory.
Nixon was a Big Gov. Republican.
The USA has been Socialist to some degree since the 16th Amendment (1913).

Crypto-Marxist is more accurate.

And sinister.

.........And many Hispanics are Catholic.

Could be a big problem for obama in Flordia, and New Mexico, maybe?

re: #159 Adina in Judea

Good!

How can any Catholic vote for a pro-abortion stance that includes killing babies who survive abortions? Obama's reasoning for wanting to have babies killed if they survive abortions is that it would go against the mother's intentions to save a baby's life if he or she survived the abortion.

So, the person wanting another person dead has to be given more consideration than the innocent person who is trying to stay alive?

This is Obama in a nutshell.

I hope the Catholic Church clobbers him.

Here is another conundrum for you:

The US Supreme Court says that it's unconstitutional for the State to execute a man for raping a child.

The US Supreme Court says the child has a Constitutional right to kill the child of the rapist, which happens to be her own child.

The US Supreme Court says that no adult, including the parents of the raped child, can interfere with (or even be notified of) the child's decision to kill the rapist's child.

Figure that one out.

Okay, y'all, I'm off to indulge my geeky side.

re: #167 Globular Cluster

Oh lordy, my favorite is the Chicken Button!

Reverend Jeremiah Wright is still the answer. Those clips are still toxic and will leave the final impression on enough of the undecided.However, McCain will not run them and will not allow any of the 527's to do it. I think if we lose that decision will be fatal.

re: #157 Palandine

Yeah, that sexist McCain, picking a woman to be his Vice President. :)

People don't actually fall for that sort of thing, do they?

Telling women what to do in a political ad probably won't go over well.

One of the things I love about John McCain's treatment of Sarah Palin is that he isn't hesitant to put her front and center (whereas Obambi is so determined to hog the spotlight that even his Obambi/Biden bumper stickers have "Biden" written in letters almost too light to read.)

John McCain loves it when the crowds go wild for Sarah Palin (and they do!)

I love a man who isn't threatened by a woman who gets so much attention.

Todd Palin absolutely rocks in this department, too, of course.

re: #153 Adina in Judea
Yeah, I've seen that ad several times myself and am totally mystified as to why McCain hasn't struck back the way you suggested.
But the problem with the Catholic Church in this country TODAY is that it has had more than it's share of scandals and I'm afraid a lot of Catholics (and certainly ALL of my Catholic friends) just don't pay attention to the Church on political matters - not even abortion.

38 vegasjew
10/19/08 9:33:25 pm reply quote 0

president -elect Obama makes me so sick I want to puke. Please everyone do something,here in Nevada there are still many Jews voting for Obama,I am trying to work this crowd. McCain will do better than Bush among Jews but McCain did not engage this community at all and there are 80,000 Jews here.

*****We are coming to save you! We are Californians for McCain coming there Nov. 1.

re: #170 solomonpanting

I'd like to see Putin start sweating the drop in oil prices.

Oh yeah, especially in light of the fact that their stock market has tanked in the last few weeks. He must really be feeling the heat right about now.

Maybe his economic woes will temper his re-emerging neo-Soviet power plays across his border into the old states. (i.e. Georgia)

re: #177 vegasjew

Reverend Jeremiah Wright is still the answer. Those clips are still toxic and will leave the final impression on enough of the undecided.However, McCain will not run them and will not allow any of the 527's to do it. I think if we lose that decision will be fatal.

How can he stop the 527's from running them, since they're not associated with his campaign?

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep now!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Good night, all.

re: #155 x-wing

Yes, Obama only carried 7 of our counties. They were all around Philly. Except for some areas aroud P-burg ,I can't see him taking the bitter clingy area. And that wont be enough to win. IMNSHO.

Here's a Dem Primary Results Map of PA, WV, OH, IN, and MD I threw together last Spring. Obama only took 2 counties with a significant margin. Clinton kicked his A** in the rest of the state.

re: #182 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He can't stop the 527's. He just won't endorse them.

re: #182 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

How can he stop the 527's from running them, since they're not associated with his campaign?

He can do what he did during the Primaries, condemn those running the ads.

It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I'm starting to suspect that the world understands that America's economy would remain weak if socialists win the Presidential election in two weeks.

The world (even the first world) is teetering on the brink of financial collapse because of America's financial problems caused by the Democrats.

They may WANT America to be socialist - but can they afford it?

I don't think so.

re: #159 Adina in Judea

Obama said he thought it would be used to infringe on a woman's right to choose....except that the version of the law he voted on is the same one that the US Congress voted unanimously on, and I believe it had a clause saying it was not a judgment on Roe vs Wade.

Even if it was, why not vote to wrap the babies in a blanket, give them oxygen, and adopt them out, and then say "I'll fight like hell against this being used to infringe abortion"? It says a lot about the man that in the sea of things he voted "present" for or didn't vote for at all, he went on the record with this one.

re: #159 Adina in Judea

I hope so, too. The diocese I am in (Virginia) is one of the most liberal in the country, but I must say that that they have been doing more to publicize the candidates views and to promote "voting for Life" than they have ever done before.
The Born-Alive-Baby Act is the main factor, but I have heard that the Vatican and bishops (especially 3rd world ones) are concerned that the US will go back to the Clinton years, when abortion was aggressively promoted worldwide w/ US tax dollars.

re: #186 rawmuse

He can do what he did during the Primaries, condemn those running the ads.

He slapped down the Tennessee Republicans and the North Carolina ones, IIRC, for running Wright ads. Neither state's party leaders were particularly thrilled with him after that.

I think an easy solution to prevent people from voting more than once on the actual election day is to stamp people's hand with an ink that won't wash off for 24 hours, sort of like getting stamped at a nightclub, which no one feels is violating their rights.

re welsh we need Nevada so TY
re Ozark obviously you dont believe that big $ organizers dont have a way to deal with the campaigns

re: #185 Onamesa

He can't stop the 527's. He just won't endorse them.

Then they should go for it!

McCain approves of his own campaign and he has input into the RNC, but the 527s ought to be able to do whatever they like (no matter what he's saying.)

They should run Rev Wright all day every day (everywhere or as much as the 527s can afford.)

re: #166 wolfie

As I recall, Opilio had some very detailed maps during the primaries that showed Obama taking the Philly area (of course) and the State College area. Period. I remember it because I was surprised that Hillary took Pittsburgh............and also because I wondered what that weird Obama spot was way out in the middle of nowhere! (We all determined that it was State College.)

You remembered !!!!!

Opilio ♥ Wolfie

re: #157 Palandine

Yeah, that sexist McCain, picking a woman to be his Vice President. :)

People don't actually fall for that sort of thing, do they?

I got the whole Gov. Sarah Palin "Fish Bait" business from my brother. I would have torn him a new one but I was wishing him a happy birthday at the time so I bit my tongue.

re: #169 rawmuse

Ok, I'll give ya that. He's not a socialist. He's a communist.

re: #160 Intrepid

I can't find it right now I'll keep looking.

G'nite, R-Dubs.

re: #174 stuiec

I figured it out!
"The Constitution is whatever five of us say it is." - Justice Harry Blackmun

I want a prize!

re: #193 Adina in Judea

Adina, I agree! They have down ticket elections to worry about. If McCain doesn't have the stomach for it then I say too bad!

Spread The Wealth Around™

re: #192 vegasjew

re welsh we need Nevada so TY
re Ozark obviously you dont believe that big $ organizers dont have a way to deal with the campaigns

No, I'm saying that the 527's are not a part of his campaign so they are not required to get his "permission" to run their ads. He might not like what they say, but he cannot stop them from running them.

If the 527s don't want to run Rev Wright alone in their ads, they should add up the entire list of shady and anti-American characters in the Obama Drama (including Rev Wright with his screaming at America.)

Added all up, it's devastating. Rev Wright alone is devastating, too.

What Obama is doing right now is a coup attempt (or a hostile takeover, since he's so well funded from outside the country.)

Rev Wright deserves to have his face and his voice all over American television for the things he said - and Obama deserves to have his 20 years with this man rubbed in his face.

This election is a matter of life and death for America.

re: #179 realwest

At least the ones who attend church will know Obama's position. Back in July, several surveys showed that nearly 1/2 of Americans thought Obama was pro-life. Seriously.

re: #194 Opilio

You bet I remembered!
Those were fantastic maps! :)

re: #204 wolfie

At least the ones who attend church will know Obama's position. Back in July, several surveys showed that nearly 1/2 of Americans thought Obama was pro-life. Seriously.

He is pro-life. When it comes to the death penalty. Other than that.....

re: #191 Teacake!

I think an easy solution to prevent people from voting more than once on the actual election day is to stamp people's hand with an ink that won't wash off for 24 hours, sort of like getting stamped at a nightclub, which no one feels is violating their rights.

I'd agree with the hand stamp. Early voting has become a necessity, though, because of heavy turn out in some areas, and on a work day. But I'd suggest early voting at county offices, with a hand stamp, a document that the voter signs that clearly states "I have voted already on this date and I will not attempt to vote again under penalty of law", AND a good size staff who will reconcile the voting record every hour. On the day of the election, the names of the early voters will be on an Early Voter Special List, which is checked with each voter coming to vote.

Absentee voting should be limited to those who can give a good enough reason. And the voter information must agree with their registration information 100%, or the ballot doesn't count.

LGF not blocked from Kyrgyzstan.

re: #208 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kyrgyzstan.

Have you met Borat yet?

re: #208 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kyrgyzstan.

Missouri neither.

/

re: #206 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I can't remember the exact figures, but roughly 80% believed he was either fully or moderately pro-life.......(w/ the latter being okay w/ abortion in the first tri-mester for reasonably serious reasons.)

How would people know otherwise? It's not as if we have a media that actually informs us about candidates' views and records on key issues.

This is NOT the Information Age, my friends. It is the Age of Disinformation.

re: #209 Colonel Panik

Have you met Borat yet?

Negative, Comrade. Most esteemed Borat is Kazakhstan man.

re: #208 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kyrgyzstan.

What are you doing there... lose a bet or something?

re: #208 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kyrgyzstan.

I give you an up ding for being able to spell it!

Safe travels, Haakondahl!

re: #213 stevieray

What are you doing there... lose a bet or something?

Um... travelling. Will say more later. But you could win a bet and go to KGstan. It is just beautiful here.

re: #212 haakondahl

Negative, Comrade. Most esteemed Borat is Kazakhstan man.

That's right, I'm getting my Stans mixed up.

re: #194 Opilio

You remembered !

Opilio ♥ Wolfie

Do you still have them? I'm terrible at trying to find this stuff. I was watching the news when they showed the map, and I didn't see any Obama counties past Lancaster or Lebanon.

Somewhere, Cher is celebrating...

Fashion critic Mr. Blackwell dies in Los Angeles

re: #215 haakondahl

Um... travelling. Will say more later. But you could win a bet and go to KGstan. It is just beautiful here.

Enjoy your stay there!

Send us lizards a few postcards!

Saw this on Hill Blog ......... I like it .....Good Night Lizards .....

Yippee kayay Mother F***er. I have not put up with all the bullpuckey of the last 20 months to turn tail and walk away. I give a real big damn about this country. If I didn't, I would have licked my wounds when they forced Hillary out and quit caring about any of it. You Pubs...you have no idea. Obama actually CLAIMED VICTORY when there were still 13 primaries to go. He did not have enough Super Delegates or regular Delegates. His merry band of Mujahideen at the DNC (Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Brazil) spred the tidings that Barack Obama had won. They said publically that Hillary Clinton had lost and she should just shut up and go home. She won 9 of those remaining primaries. They scammed the system, cheated at the polls, rigged the media and threatened all who stood in Obama's way and HE STILL LOST THE POPULAR VOTE.This was a constant barage to discourage CLinton voters and to keep them from showing up at the polls. Had the Convention been an honest one and contained an honest legitimate vote, Hillary would have taken it and Obama and the DNC knew it. This is not me pontificating. This is a fact. They threatened delegates and worse. They negotiated an abbreviated, illegitimate & illegal roll call vote. What you all saw on tv...that was Obama Masterpiece Theater. So smok 'em if you got 'em and no sniveling allowed. We have come to far too retreat.

McCain/Palin 2008 ....... we can win

re: #217 x-wing

Check out Opilio's post #184 above. He has a link.

re: #218 stevieray

Somewhere, Cher is celebrating...

And that Bork chick, or whatever her name is - the one who wore the swan on the red carpet one year.

re: #214 Intrepid

I give you an up ding for being able to spell it!

Safe travels, Haakondahl!

Thank you! Safe travels are indeed a goal.

re: #170 solomonpanting

I'd like to see Putin start sweating the drop in oil prices.

A couple of good links on how the drop in oil prices is affecting oil-based economies:

Venezuela: Oil falls below $80, “Baby needs a new pair of shoes.”

Iran's Fear of Low Oil Prices

re: #220 JacksonTn
I take it that you were originally a Hillary supporter? If I had been forced to choose between the leading Dems, I certainly would have taken that stance.

Socialism = Opportunity?

Okay, Barack.

Nikkei up 3.47%

re: #221 wolfie

That is not the State Map I thought I knew. Yep,that's State College alright.

I was looking at the internals for the Primaries and we're gonna need some PUMA help no doubt, but we're gonna deliver this state. Damnit.

Of course. If Obama's numbers go down, market goes up. Not that companies like the banking industry or GE care. In the tank.

re: #199 wolfie

I figured it out!
"The Constitution is whatever five of us say it is." - Justice Harry Blackmun

I want a prize!

You get your prize next Jan. 20th....

re: #224 gmsc

A couple of good links on how the drop in oil prices is affecting oil-based economies:

Venezuela: Oil falls below $80, “Baby needs a new pair of shoes.”

Iran's Fear of Low Oil Prices

Glad you found that link about Hugo's problems, Gmsc! He's sweating now, and it looks like it's only going to get worse for him.

Goldman expects crude to average USD 75 in the fourth quarter and USD 70 at the end of the year, but added: “Should the financial and economic crisis cut deeper into demand, the market could fall as low as USD 50 a barrel.”

And I find it especially humorous in light of what T. Boone Pickens predicted on Glenn Beck's show back in mid Summer - that by Christmas, oil would be at $150 per barrel.

Hah! Take that, T. Boone! Put THAT in your windmills and whirl it!

re: #156 Spellcheck

I haven't read it yet, but here's the latest.

Obama funded foreign thug who promised Islamic state

I searched a bit and found this video, added Oct 02, 2008
Obama Supporting Islamic Terror Regime in Kenya
Text decription:

Barack Obama has a cousin in Kenya he almost never talks about, but whom everyone in Kenya knows. His name is Raila Odinga. Barack Obama has actively campaigned for Raila Odinga to become president of Kenya - even before Obama started his own run for the presidency of the USA. What everyone in Kenya knows, but almost no one in the USA knows, is that Odinga has made a pact with the Muslim leaders of Kenya, in order to gain their support. This pact (actually shown in the video), calls for the establishment of a "safe haven" for terrorists in Kenya, the imposition of Sharia (Islamic) law, and the outlawing of public Christianity in Kenya. Barack Obama has supported Odinga in spite of (or perhaps because of) this Islamic pact, and continues to support Odinga in his aims, even though Odinga lost the recent elections.

re: #218 stevieray

Somewhere, Cher is celebrating...

Mr. Blackwell died penniless. He was buried in 57 shoe boxes.

re: #201 Cartman

Spread The Wealth Around™

Obama's WealthSpread™: I Can't Believe It's Not Earned!

TOKYO — North Korea will make an "important announcement" on Monday amid speculation over the health of its leader Kim Jong Il, a Japanese newspaper reported Sunday. (FOX News)

Meanwhile, the "Dear Leader's" son, Ill Jim Kong, has stated that he is more than ready to seize the reins of "cool leadership." States Ill, "I've got the shades, I've got the girls, I've got the 'do: what more do I need to press the red button on Appa's desk?"

Gotta punch out for a while. Good night, Lizards. I'll be back later.

re: #226 TheMatrix31

Socialism = Opportunity?

Okay, Barack.

Oh heck yeah! It's a great opportunity for the government to take more of your money, put it in the manure spreader, and fling it around to those who don't want to work for it, like you did.

It's a great opportunity for the lazy folks to get their piece of the pie, too. Egads, if we elect this man we're plotting our own financial demise.

re: #222 Intrepid

And that Bork chick, or whatever her name is - the one who wore the swan on the red carpet one year.

Heh. Bjork.

The Sugarcubes' first album, "Life's Too Good" was great.

So they had some bobblehead event at some hockey game in Ohio where kids "cast their vote" and either get an Obama bobblehead or a McCain bobblehead doll. They interviewed some little girl and they asked her why she took the Obama one, and she's like "Ummmmm.....I dont know". Apparently, Obama was chosen 59% of the time.

re: #238 stevieray

Heh. Bjork.

The Sugarcubes' first album, "Life's Too Good" was great.

/would it be wrong to say that I'd like to Bjork her?

re: #240 x-wing

/would it be wrong to say that I'd like to Bjork her?

At the current valuation, she can afford to buy Iceland outright.

re: #239 TheMatrix31

It's the ears man, the ears.

re: #240 x-wing

/would it be wrong to say that I'd like to Bjork her?

You'd have to fight your way past that swan...

re: #240 x-wing

/would it be wrong to say that I'd like to Bjork her?

You can, but you'd have to get rid of the swan first.

/scary

Gettin' late... time to battle my cat for control of the prime real estate [i.e. the bed].

Goodnight!

re: #241 stuiec

At the current valuation, she can afford to buy Iceland outright.

Are they still considered a country after last week?

re: #244 Intrepid

You can, but you'd have to get rid of the swan first.

/scary

GMTA!

re: #243 stevieray

You'd have to fight your way past that swan...

Heh - GMTA.

And some great shoes to go with the lovely Swan get up...

Crazy shoes

re: #240 x-wing

/would it be wrong to say that I'd like to Bjork her?

Bjork! Bjork! Bjork! Bjork!

re: #83 AussieMarcus

So can I ask you guys to put away the conservative badges for a minute and try to be as honest and impartial as possible..

Which red states are genuinely at risk of being lost?
Which blue states does McCain/Palin have a genuine chance of winning?

Any reasons for the above would be great too.

Purely non-data-based speculation:

Real Clear Politics' map shows Pennsylvania as solid Obama. I'm not so sure... He pissed off pretty much the entire state outside of the urban areas. If I was McCain I'd be working overtime to organize Chicago-style vote buses for all those older folks out in the sticks to get in there and punch their ticket for the guy who DOESN'T look down his nose at them.

A friend of mine in Florida said "no effing way" would Obama get Florida. The numbers look close on the map but he said it was all being mis-reported, that he had seen absolutely no signs of Obama support anywhere. I don't know how seriously to take this, since "Nobody I know voted for him" is a stupid thing to say.

I'm afraid Ohio will go Obama, not because of a real victory there, but because of vote fraud on a Pharaonic scale, which the media has decided to ignore. We're supposed to just shut up and tolerate it now. The Messiah has spoken: ACORN helps people, and "It's not true, John", that they are a danger to the electoral process. Apparently he has power right out of Genesis now, that he just says stuff, and it becomes real.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out why North Dakota is a toss-up on RCP's map. I guess one of the three people that lives there is an undecided Independent?

re: #246 x-wing

Are they still considered a country after last week?

I think they belong to Russia now, since they got a hefty check from Vlad.

re: #243 stevieray

re: #244 Intrepid

I had a run in with a goose when I was young... I fear bills to this day.

re: #249 gmsc

LOL, haven't seen him in years. mork,mork,mork

re: #252 x-wing

re: #244 Intrepid

I had a run in with a goose when I was young... I fear bills to this day.

They're not timid creatures, that's for sure. Flopping those wings and running at ya like you're the devil incarnate. Swans are nasty too, I've heard.

re: #250 Pawn of the Oppressor

He pissed off pretty much the entire state outside of the urban areas.

Not to mention Murtha calling western PA racist the other day.

I just heard on the news about some town in Mexico (Jalisco) that has a bunch of Democrats, and they're "already voting" for our election.

Is that allowed?

re: #252 x-wing

re: #244 Intrepid

I had a run in with a goose when I was young... I fear bills to this day.

They're nasty critters. Seen 'em chase big dogs clear out of the park.

re: #251 Intrepid

I think they belong to Russia now, since they got a hefty check from Vlad.

Putie bailed them out. I did not know that. When did that happen?

re: #257 stevieray

Did the cat win the battle? :)

re: #258 x-wing

Putie bailed them out. I did not know that. When did that happen?

Gosh, a couple weeks ago, maybe? I think it was to the tune of 300 billion.

re: #254 Intrepid

They're not timid creatures, that's for sure. Flopping those wings and running at ya like you're the devil incarnate. Swans are nasty too, I've heard.

You got that right, sometimes cute this are nasty, I still have a scar on my face from my neighbors basset hound.

/ yes a dopey looking big eared dog.