Hope this speeds things up.

Good night - I said that already, didn't I?

Tap, Tap, is this thing on?

re: #3 lummox

Tap, Tap, is this thing on?

I think we're all alone! What would you like to do?

In this overnight thread all I can say is keep the faith......

This guy should have restrained his desire!

I'd have to say Blake was wrong on this. Even very strong desires can be restrained, as witness John McCain not cursing John Kerry out for what he said today.

Wow, finally took time to resize a picture to use as an avatar! I might get the hang of this in just enough time to have the fairness doctrine shut it all down!

I agree with Charles. It is a question of how screwed you can get. 2 BS candidates, both too stupid to tell the time of day without their wives. Neither can read stock tables, do basic math, or ever read a book cover to cover.

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

This guy should have restrained his desire!

Oh, for god's sake! He should have been arrested.

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

I'd have to say Blake was wrong on this. Even very strong desires can be restrained, as witness John McCain not cursing John Kerry out for what he said today.

Afraid I wasn't able to show the same restraint.

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

I'd have to say Blake was wrong on this. Even very strong desires can be restrained, as witness John McCain not cursing John Kerry out for what he said today.

What did Kerry say - I missed that.

Reposting spinoff link from previous thread. >_> For the newcomers, it's a statement condemning the Sony game recall from downthreads...

re: #10 Cast Iron Magnolia

Oh, for god's sake! He should have been arrested.

Agreed. What is wrong with people?

[I just posted this on a dead thread]

I don’t believe Barry is close at all to his grandma.

During his weeklong vacation to Hawaii, he spent ONE HOUR with her.

Obama — escorted by Secret Service and accompanied by a few campaign staff and a pool of reporters and camera crews — arrived at about 4:10 p.m. yesterday and spent an hour with his 85-year-old maternal grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, who helped raise him. He was not accompanied by his wife, Michelle, and two daughters.

hmm…

re: #15 faraway

[I just posted this on a dead thread]

I don’t believe Barry is close at all to his grandma.

During his weeklong vacation to Hawaii, he spent ONE HOUR with her.

hmm…

Can you blame him? She's a "typical white person" and a "racist." /sarc

re: #15 faraway

now that is strange

It also guarantees universal health care and free education up to the third year of college, as well as "a dignified and adequate home, independent of one's social and economic situation."

What am I?

Do you think Barry is going for the old folks nursing home hate my worthless kids who never visit sympathy vote? Or does he think that fake grief insulates him from real criticism?

re: #18 solomonpanting

Canada, I hope?

re: #18 solomonpanting

It also guarantees universal health care and free education up to the third year of college, as well as "a dignified and adequate home, independent of one's social and economic situation."

What am I?

My sister.

re: #15 faraway

[I just posted this on a dead thread]

I don’t believe Barry is close at all to his grandma.

During his weeklong vacation to Hawaii, he spent ONE HOUR with her.

hmm…

He is one cold fish.

re: #12 Cast Iron Magnolia

What did Kerry say - I missed that.

He said that McCain wears Depends.

re: #19 jeremy0114

I think his grandmother is dying.

Kerry thought that was funny? What a friend he was, eh John? You fucking moron, they hate you! You are a fool.

Speaking of the marriage of heaven and hell, that is William Blake in a nutshell.
Everything he said was either profoundly brilliant or profoundly stupid.
Never in between.

One thing Billy Blake certainly can't be accused of is restraining desire, that's for sure.

re: #26 wolfie

The trick is sussing out which is which -- which first entails the trick of deducing just what he means.

re: #15 faraway

[I just posted this on a dead thread]

I don’t believe Barry is close at all to his grandma.

During his weeklong vacation to Hawaii, he spent ONE HOUR with her.

hmm…

I was just getting ready to post that, after reading some of the comments on the HCForum.

The Honolulu Advertiser had this on their website today - no mention of Obama's grandma being ill or in the hospital, until the later article came out about his upcoming visit.

If she is really ill, I wish her the best. Obama has proven to be such a calculating liar that it's hard to believe anything he says.

re: #18 solomonpanting

A hippie 12th grader?

re: #24 Killgore Trout

And Joe the Plumber was a GOP plant... Sick grandmother aside, things are pretty bad when you can no longer believe anything these people say... Everything just seems like pragmatic political posturing...

Like the Wellstone Memorial was a simple funeral with no agenda...

Obama has despised his white blood since he knew of it. In a State that did not care about skin color, his African-American blood became his identity. This man seethes with hatred and disrespect for the people who actually raised him. No book about his mother. Oh no. Only about the loser that illegally married her and other women then died as a drunken fool. A man so stupid that he thought a 100% tax rate made sense.

Kerry's comments were out of line and childish. One could say that Kerry is wearing diapers afterall.

re: #28 LynnfromNZ

So true! :)

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

didn't kerry ask mccain to runwith him in '04?

re: #24 Killgore Trout

I think his grandmother is dying.

Yep.

Gibbs said Obama's wife, Michelle, will not accompany him. He said Obama will travel with a few staff members and a small pool of reporters.

I guess we get Michelle for a few days.

(Muzzle off!)

re: #24 Killgore Trout

I think his grandmother is dying.

Quite possibly, and if so he is obviously scrambling to appear concerned. A little late I would judge, but that's just me.

re: #34 wolfie

in a College lit class we had to write a paragraph explaining what we thought The Sick Rose meant. i was the only one who said lust.

re: #17 pat

Too much idle time on this one's hands!

re: #36 RTLM

Says alot about Michelle. Sounds like Grammy and her don't get along.

There has to be a story here.

re: #36 RTLM

That's ok, Obama doesn't need to show up to finish the election. I'm just disjointed that I can't get below -23 on my comment earlier. It's such a tragedy that republicans have become so weak.

One thing I've noticed him saying more than once about his mother - that while she was dying, she spent her last months on the phone fighting with the insurance company. Why wasn't he taking care of that so she didn't have to worry about it?

re: #39 notutopia

I think you are on to something. It is not like they have another grandmother they know. They hate her because of her race is my quess, given the creepy church.

re: #41 Killgore Trout

That's ok, Obama doesn't need to show up to finish the election. I'm just disjointed that I can't get below -23 on my comment earlier. It's such a tragedy that republicans have become so weak.

Which one?

re: #37 The Shadow Do

She'll die the same horrible death that we all will eventually.

re: #9 pat

I agree with Charles. It is a question of how screwed you can get. 2 BS candidates, both too stupid to tell the time of day without their wives. Neither can read stock tables, do basic math, or ever read a book cover to cover.

*yawn*

re: #41 Killgore Trout

That's ok, Obama doesn't need to show up to finish the election. I'm just disjointed that I can't get below -23 on my comment earlier. It's such a tragedy that republicans have become so weak.

Yep. we're so weak and you're so smart. Gimme a break, Barack-breath.

only one who has abandoned all concepts can posses a body of infinite extent

-Huang Po

re: #40 x-wing

'Cause she ain't black you see?

If McCain was classless like my state's junior Senator, he could reply with an impotence joke about Kerry, but he isn't.

re: #35 LynnfromNZ

didn't kerry ask mccain to runwith him in '04?

There were suggestions he did but what of it? John Kerry has already betrayed his country, to betray john McCain probably doesn't bother him.

re: #45 Killgore Trout

But I will go to heaven, and you will ........, lol

re: #22 The Shadow Do

Look at how he has ignored his kenyan family members. His brother lives in squalor and Mr. Elitist helps keep him there by campaigning for Odinga!
The man is Not a MAN.
He is an isolationist. He has no love of anything or anyone.

re: #45 Killgore Trout

She'll die the same horrible death that we all will eventually.

true dat!

re: #41 Killgore Trout

That's ok, Obama doesn't need to show up to finish the election. I'm just disjointed that I can't get below -23 on my comment earlier. It's such a tragedy that republicans have become so weak.

How can I help? :)

re: #44 RTLM
Here. I'm stuck at -23. I'd really like to see -40 or more by sunrise.

re: #38 LynnfromNZ

The only one?

Where the others just afraid to talk about sex? That poem is pretty clear in what it is alluding to.

bet Mccain gets hammered for campaigning while Obama's in hawaii. The MSM will say he should refrain out of "respect."

re: #32 pat

Yes. But no pity from me for his mother.
She hated her own race and country with a passion.
One of the saddest passages in Dreams is where Obama says that it bothered him a little.....he never quite knew why..... that his mother would never even look at a white man.
I'll pity Obama before I'll pity her.

re: #25 pat

Kerry thought that was funny? What a friend he was, eh John? You fucking moron, they hate you! You are a fool.

What is so bad about an honorable man who keeps his honor even when his "so called" friends hate him?

He could join them in their dishonor, but then again, he'd lose his moral high ground.

Should we join the dishonorable in their miserable and filthy tactics? What would distinguish us from them, at that point?

We'd become the very thing we despise.

re: #52 pat

I don't think I'll make the cut but I'll send you an email.

re: #38 LynnfromNZ

Is THAT what it means?!
Geepers! I like that!

re: #60 Intrepid

Know your enemy. Evaluate.

re: #45 Killgore Trout

She'll die the same horrible death that we all will eventually.

Indeed, each alone.

What is your point as regards Obama's belated trip?

re: #54 non-lib Nina

Some apple eating trollop fucked us all. Bummer.

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Well I can't help you there. I blame the Open Primary system, which has been abused this year as in no other, in order to choose one's preferred opponent.
I mean, really, KT, you know about all the mischief that has gone down, on both sides.

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I don't think I'll make the cut but I'll send you an email.

Don't worry. I always send your opinion on to Gallup. lol

re: #61 Killgore Trout

I don't think I'll make the cut but I'll send you an email.

Aesthists of a feather stick together. How appropriate.

re: #8 jeremy0114

Wow, finally took time to resize a picture to use as an avatar! I might get the hang of this in just enough time to have the fairness doctrine shut it all down!

LOL I was thinking of getting a different one for a change of pace but I forgot how I did the first one. Not a techie here at all.

re: #50 Abu Al-Poopypants

If McCain was classless like my state's junior Senator, he could reply with an impotence joke about Kerry, but he isn't.

Love your nic, by the way. Very funny!

re: #64 The Shadow Do

What is your point as regards Obama's belated trip?

No point. He's going to see her and it won't effect the election.

re: #49 non-lib Nina

'Cause she ain't black you see?

That's where I was going, but I was hoping I wasn't the only one. Obama wasn't always like this. He said in his book that he use to date white chicks, but then something happened and he started realizing his blackness. I'd really like to know what that was.

re: #57 Syrah

I thought it was fiarly obvious too. but yhou need to see things from Blake's idiosyncratic apprehension of Christianity to see that he would consider lustful sexual desire a bad thing. Few in the class did.

It also guarantees universal health care and free education up to the third year of college, as well as "a dignified and adequate home, independent of one's social and economic situation."

Ecuador rolls out new, socialist constitution

They have to run to keep ahead of Obama and the Dems.

re: #48 Gorgon Zola

Huang Po? I thought that was a cotton-pickin' river!

re: #41 Killgore Trout

That's ok, Obama doesn't need to show up to finish the election. I'm just disjointed that I can't get below -23 on my comment earlier. It's such a tragedy that republicans have become so weak.

It's funny that you were post #41 in that thread and in this one.

re: #56 Killgore Trout

The real tragedy is that the republican party nominated a candidate so weak that he couldn't beat a socialist with radical ties and no experience. That elderly and weak candidate then nominated a VP with no experience.
/I wonder why we're losing?

I'd say, given he's up against the messiah, he's doin' swell. Obama oughta be up 16 right now.

Who was your pick/recommendation?

I wonder if the media would leave Joe the Plumber alone if his grandmother was sick and dying?

re: #65 Killgore Trout

But I like apples, trout?

re: #78 jeremy0114

Nope.

re: #80 poopeedoo

I know, stupid question....

re: #77 RTLM

Not that you asked me, but Gus Hall would be a great guess.

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Hah! He's gonna drag the old biddy to Ohio and make her vote......over and over and over and over!

re: #24 Killgore Trout
Hey Killgore - I said pretty much the same thing on the prior thread. It COULD be politics, because neither Michelle or the children went with him or it could be because Michelle and the children don't really have a "relationship" with her.
In any event I'm giving him a pass on this and hope that his grandmother is going to be ok.

re: #72 x-wing

He is black, at least his skin is!

re: #71 Killgore Trout

No point. He's going to see her and it won't effect the election.

Much to do about nothing. Seems to describe this whole election. Nothing sticks. Crisco on Teflon.

This may be the most cynical election I have witnessed. I don't pretend to understand it.

re: #82 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Not that you asked me, but Gus Hall would be a great guess.

For KT, I should have said...

re: #76 Abu Al-Poopypants

It's a magic number

His grandmother is sick so he's going off the campaign trail? According to what he said about McCain during the bailout talks, he should stay on the trail because, "the president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time." Right?

re: #73 LynnfromNZ

I understood it to be dead faith, empty religiosity.
But then, I went to an old-style Catholic school!

re: #86 The Shadow Do

Even if it did matter the MSM would look the other way, they don't wanna know.

re: #15 faraway

If President Bush, or even the Demonrats were in a situation like this? After throwing his Grandmother off the bus, we can gauge just how little he cares about her. I think his ego needs a home of it's own, it is so humungous.

Anyone would immediately curtail their activities and fly to the side of a possibly moribund family member who had been there for him so often.

Hussein does not have to worry about the cost of a plane ticket..he uses Hussein One.

He is a despicable piece of shit.

He will now use his Grandmother as a plea for votes...out of sympathy.

He should be over the Pacific now, praying that she will recover, damn it.

This only demonstrates what we already know: Hussein cares only for himself, and this will only indicate one thing: how he would treat all of us..each and every one.

He thinks that everything is all about him, and does not give a damn for anyone, but himself. He does not know right from wrong. I honestly think that he is a sociopath.

re: #89 cliffster

His grandmother is sick so he's going off the campaign trail? According to what he said about McCain during the bailout talks, he should stay on the trail because, "the president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time." Right?

He is The One! He can make remake what is reasonable just by willing it!

/crazy off

re: #89 cliffster

Absolutely. Reinforces the notion that Grandma is a prop. Everything is calculated with this guy... everything.

re: #89 cliffster

His grandmother is sick so he's going off the campaign trail? According to what he said about McCain during the bailout talks, he should stay on the trail because, "the president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time." Right?

cliffster, do not introduce logic into the equation! You'll confuse kilgore...

re: #82 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Not that you asked me, but Gus Hall would be a great guess.

Naw! - Kilgore couldn;t pick him - he's dead.

/oh wait...

Sheesh, the local tv station here in So. Cal just said that McCain and Palin are calling Obama the "s" word ~ socialist.

*spit*

re: #63 pat

Know your enemy. Evaluate.

That has nothing to do with losing one's honor.

If we are to go all out and be like the Obama camp and their toadies - including DKos, HuffPo and DU - what is to keep us from spouting crap like "hey, good deal that Ted Kennedy has a brain tumor!" or "wow! Obama's grandma is dying! Yea!"? Spit on that, I say.

We are better than that. If any honor is to be kept in the process of electing our president, then John McCain is the only one who will bring it. And Sarah Palin will bring it as well.

But from the left? Obama? Biden? No, no such honor will be found.

re: #92 NY Nana

There is a hole in his soul, I think.
An emptiness.
He may be "nice," but can he be good?

"But think how great a Proportion of Mankind consists of weak and ignorant Men and Women, and of inexperienc'd and inconsiderate Youth of both Sexes, who have need of the Motives of Religion to restrain them from Vice, to support their Virtue, and retain them in the Practice of it till it becomes habitual, which is the great Point for its Security;"- Benjamin Franklin

He has to jet off to Hawaii (He'd walk, but the plane's faster) so he can wave His Healing Hand.

re: #41 Killgore Trout

There. Updinged you just so you don't get the satisfaction of hitting -40 by sunrise on my watch!

re: #99 wolfie

There is a hole in his soul, I think.
An emptiness.
He may be "nice," but can he be good?

But being nice is good.

re: #90 wolfie

We could update it and have it be about Muslims invading Britain -- the Brits use the rose as a symbol, their "dark secret love" of Islam is destroying Britain... blake the prophet.

Gus Hall was always running for president. That was before communism became "just another guy living down the street."

re: #97 poopeedoo

Sheesh, the local tv station here in So. Cal just said that McCain and Palin are calling Obama the "s" word ~ socialist.

*spit*

Who's the spit for? It better be for Obama!

re: #101 Abu Al-Poopypants

He better keep that hand off me, I don't know where it has been.

re: #102 jeremy0114

Dick.
/

re: #97 poopeedoo

The "S" word? You mean they actually used that phrase? So now calling someone a socialist is not PC? I can believe it.

/Coming up next. The Socialist Card.

re: #15 faraway

[I just posted this on a dead thread]

I don’t believe Barry is close at all to his grandma.

During his weeklong vacation to Hawaii, he spent ONE HOUR with her.

hmm…

Yeah, Grandma's supposedly not doin' too good. Maybe it's the tire tread marks from having been thrown under the bus...

C'mon conspiracy types... this is all about dealing with his birth certificate crisis, right?

re: #106 Macker

Who's the spit for? It better be for Obama!

The spit is for the newscasters. They're so "in the tank" for That One.

Namaste, Y'all
/The hips that haunt my dreams
//zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

re: #32 pat

Pat,

He uses his African heritage like a mantra...and an excuse.

/Wouldn't he be better off as the Dictator of Kenya?

re: #108 Killgore Trout

You are welcome :)

re: #97 poopeedoo

Sheesh, the local tv station here in So. Cal just said that McCain and Palin are calling Obama the "s" word ~ socialist.

*spit*

If the Birkenstock fits...

Amazing, isn't it? Obama's hatchet crew is going after Joe The Plumber. Went after Sarah Palin. Spitting on McCain, who is probably the greatest hero in the American political system today. What a jackass. And so many people are just like, "eh, well, he seems like a good change of pace, I think I'll vote for him". I almost hope Obama wins, just so that those jackasses can get what's coming to them.

Problem is, my kids will get what's coming to those people too.

re: #109 Gus 802

The "S" word? You mean they actually used that phrase? So now calling someone a socialist is not PC? I can believe it.

/Coming up next. The Socialist Card.

Oh yes, they said, "The S word... socialist."

re: #104 LynnfromNZ

their "dark secret love" of Islam is destroying Britain

"Dark Secret Love of Islam" - sounds like a name for a porn flick.

Much speculation has been made here about why the polls are incorrectly favoring Obama including zombie's excellent essay and many other's comments. I would just like to add $.02
The first question pollster's want answered is the party affiliation of the person being interviewed. They discover this either by looking at voter registration or directly asking during the phone call. This roughly breaks down 36% Democrat, 27% Republican, 24% independent, 13% other/undecided.
Next the pollster wants to know who the individual is planning voting for.
Finally, the statisticians weigh the responses based on how many respondents belong too each party. Example.
Out of the 100 Democrats 90 say they are voting for Obama and 10 for McCain so the pollster multiplies 90 by 36% (the percentage of Democrats the believe are in the country) and gets 3240 for Obama. Then they multiply 10 by 36% and get 360 for McCain.
They do the same for the Republicans. Out of 100 Republicans 90 are pro-McCain and 10 are for Obama. 90 times 27% (the estimated number of Republicans) of equals 2430 for McCain. 10 times 27% means 270 for Obama
For this example lets say the independents break evenly so it's 50 out of 100 votes for each. 50 times 24% is 1200 for each. Also assume the undecided remain undecided.
Then the polling company adds all the numbers for each candidate and divides by 100.
So for Obama 3240+270+1200=4710. 4710/100=47.1%.
For McCain 360+2430+1200=3990. 3990/100=39.9%
Voila 7.2% Obama lead. Normally this formula works pretty well, however there are at least three things wrong with it this election cycle. First is operation chaos wildly exaggerates the number of registered Democrats. Second, the PUMAs, they still consider themselves Democrats and they too inflate the (D) numbers and tilt the numbers toward the Democrat candidate, Obama, despite the fact that most of the 5 million of them would crawl over broken glass to vote against him. The final problem is with one of the assumptions I made to simplify the math, namely that undecided/independents would break evenly, so far this year the independents have broken decisively against Obama.

Dinner time here, see y'all later.

re: #33 Gus 802
Uh, what did Kerry say?

re: #104 LynnfromNZ

I smell a PhD dissertation!
Oh wait. Not PC. Forget it.

Obama's rise is all Mike Ditka'a fault anyway

/Had he run for US Senate in 2004, we wouldn't be here -

Right?

re: #89 cliffster

His grandmother is sick so he's going off the campaign trail? According to what he said about McCain during the bailout talks, he should stay on the trail because, "the president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time." Right?

Hey,
Borat Obama can multi-task.
He can lie and obfuscate at the same, uh, time.
But I bet he doesn't know his Ayers from a hole in the ground.

re: #117 poopeedoo

Oh yes, they said, "The S word... socialist."

Outstanding!

I was starting to think they were afraid of being sued, or of simply being accused of "smearing". Maybe "Joe the Plumber" made it OK.

re: #117 poopeedoo

That's too much. I'm just sitting here shaking my head. I knew it would come to that.

While we're on "words" why not bring up those t-shirts that those people wore against Palin. Nah, why bring that up.

Here's something I found in the website of the person that printed and sold those shirts.

The media loves to look the other way.

re: #89 cliffster

His grandmother is sick so he's going off the campaign trail? According to what he said about McCain during the bailout talks, he should stay on the trail because, "the president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time." Right?

But Michele Obama is back on the Champagne Trail.

re: #89 cliffster

His grandmother is sick so he's going off the campaign trail? According to what he said about McCain during the bailout talks, he should stay on the trail because, "the president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time." Right?

He is trying to get more vote via the sympathy card

re: #125 Optimizer

Outstanding!

I was starting to think they were afraid of being sued, or of simply being accused of "smearing". Maybe "Joe the Plumber" made it OK.

Maybe they meant "silly"?

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Dick.
/

That's the reply we'd expect from an Obama supporter, loser.

re: #127 Odinga

and caviar.

re: #130 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's the reply we'd expect from an Obama supporter, loser.

Regardless of the disingenuous sarc tag, moron.

re: #121 realwest

Uh, what did Kerry say?

Read here.

re: #132 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Regardless of the disingenuous sarc tag, moron.

Will you stop using the M-word?

re: #56 Killgore Trout
Well I did all I could do to help you out Killgore!
Sorta strange record for you to be trying for though.
I'm telling ya, there's something in the water or in the air out on the left coast that's fucked up your mind - as say this as a friend, you understand?!

I heard a report that 45% of Ohio vote would come in before election day.

Good God, I hope there are a lot of Republican voters willing to stand in line on election night.

re: #115 Abu Al-Poopypants

If the Birkenstock fits...

stick it up their ass. Not yours, theirs!

re: #117 poopeedoo

Oh yes, they said, "The S word... socialist."

I need a quote. Anybody got a quote?

re: #92 NY Nana

"I think his ego needs a home of it's own, it is so humungous."

LOL you never cease to make me laugh. Seriously, though, I really do hope he is praying for her. I am.

I seriously wonder why the children are not going. If I were on my death bed, and hopefully it's not, there would be nothing that could make me happier than to see my little great-granchildren, even if it was just for a few minutes.

re: #3 lummox

Tap, Tap, is this thing on?

Blow into it and see.

re: #138 Optimizer

I need a quote. Anybody got a quote?

Here are a bunch of references.

" " " " " Here's a few I can lend ya.

re: #138 Optimizer

I need a quote. Anybody got a quote?

"One of my movies was called "True Lies." It's what the Democrats should have called their convention. "

- Arnold Schwarzenegger

re: #119 Neo Con since 9-11

Great post. Don't believe the polls.

My friends,

Want as I have been over the past few weeks to throw the verbal gernades and loft gallons of lit statement petrol over the walls of closed in ideologs who pose as open minded debate "moderaters"

I .....DAMN!4 e glass of merlot4 spilt4 k eb oar d..?+-0+_=_-!.. .. . . .. .... .

.GA nite Liz@$BYU&++

DAMN~!~``````````````````````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````````````````````````` ++++++++++++++++++++---

Well there seems to be no restraint in the desire of the Obamamessiah to heal the earth,lower the seas,occupy the White House,save the planet,sue his critics into silence,lie about his associations with ACORN and Bill Ayers,and let his brother live in poverty in a Kenyan hut while he claims to believe in spreading the wealth (of other people) around. The list could go on but someone is knocking on my door claiming they are from some organization called the Chicago Thug Thought Police. You guys ever hear of them?

I see where a few members of the Press are accompanying Obama to visit his Grandmother. Nice photo-ops of Obama's "Christian Side" coming soon? Headlines: "How Can America NOT Vote For Such A Compassionate Man"? Anyone want to bet on a photo of Obama with a tear in his eye? I say it is a given.

re: #134 Edgar

Will you stop using the M-word?

Can I wait until 11-5-08? Please?

re: #75 wolfie

correct Wolfie!

[Link: www.fotosearch.com...]

re: #99 wolfie

There is a hole in his soul, I think.
An emptiness.
He may be "nice," but can he be good?

So help me, I do not think that he has a soul. Has anyone else noticed that he is doing a Shrillary, re his 'accent'? He seems to be trying hard to speak like a black man, where he used to sound like a Caucasian. And he certainly does not sound like a Hawaiian.

He is as nice as the Plague...he cannot be good. It is not in him.

I am more upset about this election than any in my lifetime, and FDR was President when I was born....not George Washington, like some think....seriously, I have lost sleep over this, and post less often.

2 weeks from today...oy.

And all the questionable, at best, early votes? I fear that the election is already stolen, and there is no way that any Demonrat in Congress will let an emergency bill pass to try and do something.

Does anyone know if the Supreme Court could take this up?

I will never look at another ACORN again.

Might mean that in the future people will be charged with "cultural incitement" for using the "s word" and thus being subject to hate speech charges and a trial before a "Human Rights Tribunal."

/Future liberal world shock.

re: #15 faraway

[I just posted this on a dead thread]

I don’t believe Barry is close at all to his grandma.

During his weeklong vacation to Hawaii, he spent ONE HOUR with her.

hmm…

I am beginning to believe there is a riff between grandma and Michelle.....notice Obama visted 1 hr and wife and girls not with him and it has been announced that they will not be going on this visit.....what do you think......Michelle.....doesn't like grandma

re: #149 NY Nana

Don't forget about his suddenly gray hair!

re: #145 nightwatch

You crazy.

Socialist Sensitvity Training 101

/Help! The liberals are coming!

Hey I just realized that Obama will not be able to vote for himself. He is not an American citizen.

Well, I never watch CNN ..... but flipping through the channels before turning in ..... I hit on Anderson Cooper ....... Gloria Borger has just put it out there ....... John McCain must tone down his campaign while Senator Government is visiting his grandmother .........this will be the talking point that will go forward for the next three days ....... F*ck these people ......... this is war ........ they mow down whoever they feel necessary ........John McCain do not let up on these people ......

Good Night Lizards ...... I pray for the future of our country .......don't give up ....

hello Lizards.

re: #133 Gus 802

Read here.

All class, that one.

/

re: #145 nightwatch
LOL I'm still doing okay with my martooni's, of course I'm not saying anything intellectual.

re: #133 Gus 802
Oh hell, that's just Kerry being Kerry. BTW, did you know he served in the Vietnam War? In combat? And got lots of medals - including a silver star?

Former LGFer USMC 1968 got the Silver Star, too - but he EARNED HIS.
RIP, USMC 1968

re: #149 NY Nana

My wife wants me to quit watching the goings-on. She says it's killing me. Well, that may be, but it's pretty high stakes we're talking about. We have kids that will have to try and make their way. And we'll want to retire and take it easy someday.

re: #149 NY Nana

This is the roughest election I've seen. That's for sure.
Crazy. Scary. And, above all, frustrating.

re: #157 Oldasdirt

hello Lizards.

That's what I love about this site. One lizards checks out, another checks in.

Evenin Old as Dirt

Kerry is on Midol.

re: #162 wolfie

Yeah,and that's just over the Republicans!

Take heart lizards,,the closer we get to election,the more the people see the fa sad of obama,,they will elect McCain
Our country will be safe.

re: #160 realwest

I find Kerry repugnant. After what he did during his "Winter Soldier" stint and saying the things I won't repeat here.

We all have grandmothers and they all die eventually. What the hell is the big deal? Was she "The One" before "The One"? I'm not trying to sound like an insensitive prick, I just don't know what the big deal is about.

re: #155 Odinga

Hey I just realized that Obama will not be able to vote for himself. He is not an American citizen.

Rim shot!

I never knew that BO's grandma survived being thrown under the bus. Must be a tough lady.

re: #166 Oldasdirt

Take heart lizards,,the closer we get to election,the more the people see the fa sad of obama,,they will elect McCain
Our country will be safe.

I love you. {Oldasdirt} For the love of all that's good, let you be right.

Yikes! I HAVE to get some sleep!

Goodnight, lizards!
And keep fighting the good fight!

re: #160 realwest

Oh hell, that's just Kerry being Kerry. BTW, did you know he served in the Vietnam War? In combat? And got lots of medals - including a silver star?

Former LGFer USMC 1968 got the Silver Star, too - but he EARNED HIS.
RIP, USMC 1968

I saw that USMC 1968 had passed on.

My condolensces to all that knew and loved him.

RIP USMC 1968

re: #164 Odinga

Kerry is relief for menstrual cramps? Who knew?

re: #166 Oldasdirt

Take heart lizards,,the closer we get to election,the more the people see the fa sad of obama,,they will elect McCain
Our country will be safe.

Thanks, you give me hope. I'm here in Calif., in a completely democratic area. I have only seen one McCain yard sign around here.

Nice, refreshing look at the MO polls

Good report from Colorado!

Both are Hillary Clinton Forum links. Read the links, and also check out the rest of the site. And if you have the time, check out the sites at the top of the page.

The PUMAs are not a small group - they're a vast and enraged one.

re: #166 Oldasdirt

So true. In October of 2000,one poll had Gore over Bush 51% to 40%. Remember to old photo of the frog about to be swallowed by the pelican with the caption "NEVER give up"?

re: #141 Gus 802

Here are a bunch of references.

Thanks!

Looks like they didn't call The One a socialist, specifically, only said that his policies are pretty similar to socialism. Well, that's probably the best way to go, at this point.

re: #167 Gus 802

I find Kerry repugnant. After what he did during his "Winter Soldier" stint and saying the things I won't repeat here.

Kerry isn't even worthy of scratching McCains ass.

re: #171 cliffster

I love you. {Oldasdirt} For the love of all that's good, let you be right.

I really believe this,,we still have a great bunch of people in this country,and my faith in them is great,

McCain will win.
Too much is coming out about obama now.
He will drip, drip, drip slowly lose in the polls.

I am positive that McCain will iwn.

re: #161 cliffster

So does my husband want me to stop, but I will not. This is far too important...and my idiot kids and their spouses seem to be voting for Hussein, damn it.

Little do they know that their false idol will make their lives miserable, if, G-d forbid, he wins. And my 3 little grandkids will also suffer the aftermath of his dictatorship.

We are both 70, and I have to admit that at their age we were both Demonrats...Carter did it for us, and we have not looked back. I do not want an Hussein regime to wake them up, as by then it will be too damned late.

This is like some horror movie or a nightmare, but it just keeps going.

I have to believe that a tremendous 'October Surprise' will still occur that will end this nightmare. I just have to..anything else is unthinkable.

re: #168 logboy

We all have grandmothers and they all die eventually. What the hell is the big deal? Was she "The One" before "The One"? I'm not trying to sound like an insensitive prick, I just don't know what the big deal is about.

Well, this woman raised him...so I guess she functioned more or less like a mother to him, probably even closer than most grandmothers.

It is a little bit odd that he only spent an hour with her when he was vacationing in Hawaii, though...and I know the topic of his birth records is taboo here, so I won't get into that. It just seems weird, with three lawsuits in the works.

Not to be too cynical, though - I'm sure Obama's grandmother is a lovely woman, and I'm sorry to hear that she has fallen ill. I will keep her in my prayers.

re: #179 x-wing

Kerry isn't even worthy of scratching McCains ass.

Kerry should be ashamed to show his face in public....but he is not.

And you know what?
Like him or not you gotta give props to Sean Hannity for continually beating the drum on obama even though people were getting sick of it.

re: #149 NY Nana

I fear that the election is already stolen...

And we suffer through 4 miserable years of increasing socialist-taxing-Obama crap until the American people say enough, and vote SO OVERWHELMINGLY for (ANYBODY ELSE!) that he can't cheat his way out of it, and THEN...

THEN, Nana, we learn that No, there WASN'T any American birth certificate BECAUSE he was born in Kenya, as asserted, but what the hell, we GOT YOU BAD anyhow, didn't we? Hahaha, America, that's a good on on YOU, see how fallible and stupid you are? Now try and UN-DO what I, Obama, have saddled you with! Hah! FAT CHANCE!

Hey. I never trust polls. "Figures don't lie, but liars figure."

re: #162 wolfie

This is the roughest election I've seen. That's for sure.
Crazy. Scary. And, above all, frustrating.

Ditto....my nic is blue.

re: #168 logboy
Hey logboy - and I'm seriously saying this with respect to you, yes EVERYONE DIES. But some of us were close to our grandmothers - I was to mine - and we greived over her and if I coulda been there with her in her final hours, I would have.
I'm suggesting that if Obama's grandmother is seriously ill, we should just wish her well and NOT jump to the conclussion that this is a political stunt of some sort.

re: #180 Oldasdirt

I really believe this,,we still have a great bunch of people in this country,and my faith in them is great,

I believe it too. I think the polls reflect people whose position is, "oh, what? President? Oh yeah, well that Obama, he seems like a fresh start. Gotta go..."

People who really think through it realize what's going on. Plus, McCain has broken back through in Florida and Ohio, and has made up ground in other battleground states. Give us Florida and Ohio, we'll make it happen in the somewhere else.

re: #182 NY Nana

Part of the trouble now is that many of the Cult of Obama followers are too young to remember Carter. Those of us who raised a family in the midst of the Days of Malaise remember what the Carter policies brought on our nation. There is no need for Obama to repeat the past mistakes of Carter for me to know how this will turn out. I know already.

NY Nana----
seems like Demonrat-itude is a phenomenon of young people, and also, some people who don't realize that the democrat party platform does not line up with their beliefs. As in the case of my granma's 83 yr old friend. Just votes Democrat, out of habit.

re: #184 The Shadow Do

I still love the Kerry joke, "Hey, John, why the long face?"

Via Yahoo News/ McClatchy Newspapers... a completely, utterly unbiased news report about the campaign:

Hate-filled attacks on Obama have many roots

WASHINGTON — An ugly line has been crossed in this presidential campaign, one in which some people don't mind calling Barack Obama a dangerous Muslim, a terrorist and worse.

"To me, this all feels much worse than we've seen in some time," said Kathryn Kolbert , the president of People for the American Way , which monitors political speech.

Experts agree on the reasons: Obama, the Democratic nominee, is different from any other major presidential candidate in history in many ways, and people often don't accept such change gracefully.

That different background fuels many fears, said Penni Pier , who's an expert on political rhetoric. People are still scared that terrorists are ready to strike and wonder about Obama's background, she said, while the Internet and other outlets are endless sources of misinformation.

Some think that Republican strategists are, as Kolbert put it, "orchestrating" the vitriol.

It's this sort of neutral, unbiased journalism that does the entire profession proud.

re: #176 Intrepid

Today they are showing Mac is down 6 points in Pa. The gap is closing.

I looked at the track and something happened in the middle of Sept. to give Obama the edge. I'm trying to figure out if it was the stock market or the ACORN registrations.

re: #182 NY Nana

So does my husband want me to stop, but I will not. This is far too important...and my idiot kids and their spouses seem to be voting for Hussein, damn it.

Little do they know that their false idol will make their lives miserable, if, G-d forbid, he wins. And my 3 little grandkids will also suffer the aftermath of his dictatorship.

We are both 70, and I have to admit that at their age we were both Demonrats...Carter did it for us, and we have not looked back. I do not want an Hussein regime to wake them up, as by then it will be too damned late.

This is like some horror movie or a nightmare, but it just keeps going.

I have to believe that a tremendous 'October Surprise' will still occur that will end this nightmare. I just have to..anything else is unthinkable.

How about a November 5th surprise?

Carter is a despicable piece of human debris. If he had ANY brains, he'd be in hiding. Hari kari is the best chance for any honor.

re: #185 Typicalwhitey

And you know what?
Like him or not you gotta give props to Sean Hannity for continually beating the drum on obama even though people were getting sick of it.

Yes, Hannity is tenacious, but irreplaceable.

Sean Hannity is a good 'un.

re: #181 Typicalwhitey

McCain will win.
Too much is coming out about obama now.
He will drip, drip, drip slowly lose in the polls.

I am positive that McCain will iwn.

Oh, TW - I've missed you lately!

re: #190 cliffster

The closer we get,,The better McCain looks,,my fellow Americans will not accept socialism at any cost.

re: #189 realwest

Agreed if we're seen hovering over grandma Obama's deathbed like a bunch of ghouls looking for dirt to use on Barack it only hurts our cause. Not to mention it lessens us as humans

re: #184 The Shadow Do

Kerry should be ashamed to show his face in public....but he is not.

How old is Kerry? For a guy to be picking on Mac for his age, J.F'n. K. isn't a spring chicken himself.

re: #182 NY Nana

I think the "October surprise" is already here but is being ignored by MSM. Why is not a single media outlet other than FOX doing their homework on the Dems involvement with Fannie and Freddy? Seriously ,they were DIRECTLY responsible for the greatest global economic collapse of all time.

i'm in a solid McCain town in the outback of the northwest where a singular individual has planted his 'veterans for obama' sign on a deep dark back road(on his property adjacent to a gunhuggin' driveby),,it's been there a week..nobody has touched it,,that's us,,the free speech believers,ah'm
proud of my Buds!

re: #60 Intrepid

What is so bad about an honorable man who keeps his honor even when his "so called" friends hate him?

He could join them in their dishonor, but then again, he'd lose his moral high ground.

Should we join the dishonorable in their miserable and filthy tactics? What would distinguish us from them, at that point?

We'd become the very thing we despise.

well, being honorable got Bush exactly where ?

he is the first "Pussident of the United States"
everyone either hates or has no respect for him (because he is a pussy to the democrats and the media)

re: #194 Occasional Reader

It's almost as thought they are trying to medicalize an interpretation of those that don't accept Barack Obama as a candidate. They use the phrase "ugly line" as though they are trying to characterize this "analysis" as a malignancy of social behavior.

I can tell them that I picked the old brown shoe from the lineup years ago. I'd vote for McCain even if he was a green Castellian.

Anybody else want to join in a chorus of "We'll Follow the Old Man..." from White Christmas? I haven't been able to get the song out of my head for more than a week. (I love Irving, but not that much!)

re: #204 Bos2112

I think the "October surprise" is already here but is being ignored by MSM. Why is not a single media outlet other than FOX doing their homework on the Dems involvement with Fannie and Freddy? Seriously ,they were DIRECTLY responsible for the greatest global economic collapse of all time.

Thats the ticket,,Barney Frank is up to his ears in this FM/FM BS,,and they cant stop the truth from being told about how many Dems voted to stop regulation of this mess.
You will see.The Dems will lose all power this election.

We all need to keep our cool.

We will be of little use to anyone if we let things as they seem reduce us to rage and anxiety.

Trust in God.

Get Out The Vote, but also trust in God.

Do not be afraid.

I was going purely by what "looks" and "sounds" on this theory.

In order of what "looks" and "sounds" the most "correct" --

President McCain
Vice President Biden
Vice President Palin
President Obama

No real rhyme or reason, just what sounds correct.

re: #186 Karridine

Karridine,

You saved me a lot of typing...I agree with you.

It must be hard to watch this from Thailand...you have no idea what this is doing to anyone who gives a damn, but for you? Ouch.. It is as if they sprayed a secret substance or a miasma over us all...how anyone in their right mind could even consider him? I cannot understand. What is the feeling that you get from friends and neighbors?

The only time that I am away from the news is when I sleep, and that lately has not been easy to do.

re: #189 realwest

I agree with you completely, hence the reason I was asking "what's the big deal?"

re: #201 Oldasdirt

I wish I could agree. Years ago I would have. Not today and I'll tell you why. We have at least one generation of people who have been brought up with a entitlement mentality. They believe the world owes them whatever it is they want. It used to be that there were far fewer of "them" than there were of "us". But their numbers are growing while ours are decreasing. It may,or may not happen this year. But Socialism is coming one day to America. It's just a matter of time. The entitlement mentality will foist it upon us.

re: #204 Bos2112

That DIRECT CAUSAL INVOLVEMENT with the biggest economic problem of today is the subject of the previous thread (Harvey Kurtz) AND the answer to your question, Bos...

The Dems are seriously to blame, but to acknowledge this NOW is to queer the deal for Obamassa!

re: #194 Occasional Reader

My favorite is when the Media and Dem. stratagists, but I repeat myself, call That One... Exotic.

Good God, he's a bi-racial dude, that's it.

re: #201 Oldasdirt

The closer we get,,The better McCain looks,,my fellow Americans will not accept socialism at any cost.

hopefully they are rejecting racism also

not only did Obama attend a racist church
but the entire democrat party and the elite media engage in it every day
and it is time to stop the nonsense and get along

no society will progress without cooperation
and we surely are not cooperating with one another lately

the cooperative nature of American's brought us the great industrial might that made us a superpower
now, we are a bunch of weak pussies one on side and lying sissies on the other

...so long as he wants to go, opposite to the foe...

re: #206 Adrenalyn

well, being honorable got Bush exactly where ?

he is the first "Pussident of the United States"
everyone either hates or has no respect for him (because he is a pussy to the democrats and the media)

Their hatred of Bush (and some of our own) does not negate the responsibility of us to be honorable.

We are the last bastions of honor in the United States. Are we so willing to give that up?

I say that we can win with HONOR! We can do it! There are still those Americans out there who will vote honorably, regardless of race and all the bells and whistles Obama offers.

Joe the Plumber has started a momentum, one that has become an "October Surprise".

re: #200 Intrepid

Oh, TW - I've missed you lately!

Hey thanks!
I have been busy lately.
I am going phone banking again this Wednesday and have been busy propping up my sister and my cousin who are afraid of an Obama win.
BTW my letter is going to be in the KC Star.
Here it is:

Senator Obama was here Saturday.
I am not a supporter but wanted to go in case I could ask him a question about his tax increase.
I was told by family members not to go because they didn't want me to be destroyed by the media
like Joe the Plumber.
Read that sentence again. For simply asking a question and getting Obama to admit his socialist agenda, the media is shredding Joe and not Obama.
After all it is not the question that was the problem, it was the ANSWER!

Is anyone afraid that would happen to you if you questioned Senator McCain?

This is what he have to look forward to folks in an Obama administration.
And you want to tell me that he is the candidate that can bring people together?
What a joke.

re: #217 Adrenalyn

we are a bunch of weak pussies one on side

Next thing you know, we'll become redundant, too.

re: #219 Intrepid

Their hatred of Bush (and some of our own) does not negate the responsibility of us to be honorable.

We are the last bastions of honor in the United States. Are we so willing to give that up?

I say that we can win with HONOR! We can do it! There are still those Americans out there who will vote honorably, regardless of race and all the bells and whistles Obama offers.

Joe the Plumber has started a momentum, one that has become an "October Surprise".

I am terribly and truly sorry
but I do disagree

I'd rather be alive& free and fight (back) unfairly
than to be killed, enslaved, etc......

no less is at stake

re: #209 Oldasdirt
exactly my point Old, I just dont understand why McCain is not on this ..he should be saying more than "Im a Maverick". Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Waters...start naming names. Say it enough and the MSM cant ignore it anymore. I am not about to give up this country I love to a super majority of clueless Lefties. They will tear apart the Constitution one article at a time till there is nothing left.

re: #214 WayDownSouthInBama

I wish I could agree. Years ago I would have. Not today and I'll tell you why. We have at least one generation of people who have been brought up with a entitlement mentality. They believe the world owes them whatever it is they want. It used to be that there were far fewer of "them" than there were of "us". But their numbers are growing while ours are decreasing. It may,or may not happen this year. But Socialism is coming one day to America. It's just a matter of time. The entitlement mentality will foist it upon us.

I dont see my country that way,,we do need to fix our schools,and get the liberal teachings out of the classroom,,but we still have people showing the young in our country the correct way to think.
But we do need to take back our education system in this country before it is polluted any further.

re: #222 Adrenalyn

I'd rather be alive& free and fight (back) unfairly
than to be killed, enslaved, etc......

Um.... even if Obama wins, you're not going to be "killed" or "enslaved" because of it.

Let's cut back on the hyperbole, shall we?

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Um.... even if Obama wins, you're not going to be "killed" or "enslaved" because of it.

Let's cut back on the hyperbole, shall we?

I dunno O.R.
what will the left bring in victory ?

it scares the crap out of me

and what will the crazies of the world bring...

re: #224 Oldasdirt

As a teacher, I can't ding you up more. When will we take our children back from this enforced federal orphanage?

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Um.... even if Obama wins, you're not going to be "killed" or "enslaved" because of it.

Let's cut back on the hyperbole, shall we?

Yeah, that's pretty freakin' ridiculous, and makes us look like lunatics.

Their hatred of Bush.

I remember the protests during his first inaugural.

It was a despicable display.

re: #212 NY Nana

Karridine,

You saved me a lot of typing...I agree with you.

It must be hard to watch this from Thailand...you have no idea what this is doing to anyone who gives a damn, but for you? Ouch.. It is as if they sprayed a secret substance or a miasma over us all...how anyone in their right mind could even consider him? I cannot understand. What is the feeling that you get from friends and neighbors?

The only time that I am away from the news is when I sleep, and that lately has not been easy to do.

Roger THAT, Nana! Sleep comes rarely these days, as I scan the horizon for signs of life...

They're there, but mostly by inference. Zombie's Analysis the other day was an insight into what the narrow McCain victory will be attributable to, but every time I hear Thai radio-news run a blurb on President Bush or Obama or McCain I see ever more clearly the disunity in America, and how that disunity drives America to ruin atop a PARTITE (parties, tribes, dis-unified) political system.

The shortcomings and deficiencies are serious, and are being gamed by Obama with his hypnotic abilities and total disregard for human respect.

/other than that, I'm enjoying a balmy Tuesday afternoon, soft breezes, jasmine scented cool on my brow, wife nearby to chat, kids out playing, cloudy skies after rains last night, and work looking GOOD.

re: #228 TheMatrix31

Yeah, that's pretty freakin' ridiculous, and makes us look like lunatics.

Hint: it'll start with the "fairness doctrine"
and take off from there

but also, did Biden not say he and Obama will get right down to prosecuting Bush and Cheney for War crimes ?

it would be bad for them to win

and yes, I was an adult and survived Carter
so I remember what that was like

I feel this will not compare

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Um.... even if Obama wins, you're not going to be "killed" or "enslaved" because of it.

Let's cut back on the hyperbole, shall we?

You don't think the taxation policies Obama will very likely enact would qualify as "enslavement"?

Good night.

re: #227 hermit

As a teacher, I can't ding you up more. When will we take our children back from this enforced federal orphanage?

We need to do it soon my friend,,or all hope will be lost.
But we still have time.
We need to teach the constitution and why we wrote it in the first place,then,,all will be right.

re: #102 jeremy0114

There. Updinged you just so you don't get the satisfaction of hitting -40 by sunrise on my watch!

GMTA!

re: #191 WayDownSouthInBama

Part of the trouble now is that many of the Cult of Obama followers are too young to remember Carter. Those of us who raised a family in the midst of the Days of Malaise remember what the Carter policies brought on our nation. There is no need for Obama to repeat the past mistakes of Carter for me to know how this will turn out. I know already.

And that really is a very big part of it.

My kids are 44, 42, 41 and 36...I do not bring up the election any more, as my 3 little grandkids do not have to see a family fight...they are only 8, 6 and 2.

I fear that I know the same answer that you do, but still must hold on the the belief that people will see that mettle of the man that is Senator John McCain, and realize that Hussein is an empty suited Manchurian candidate, before 2 weeks from today.

Those fake ballots scare me witless.

re: #211 TheMatrix31

Dear Leader Obama!

Most Gracious First One Obama!

O Thou First Comrade Obama!

/ THESE 'sound' about right, Matrix... :D

Well as I've said many times before out here, I have faith in the American Voter - I believe that when he or she is in the privacy of the voting booth, he or she will choose the candidate that he or she TRUSTS THE MOST.
PERIOD.
Trust Obama? After he rejected Public Financing after first having signed an agreement to accept it? And is the first candidate from EITHER party to so reject public funding for more than 20 years? After saying he'd vote against FISA then voting for it? After denying he "knew Billy Ayers" other than from around the Hyde Park millionaire's neighborhood, then grudgingly admitting that he shared an office with Ayers, that he wrote a promotional blurb on one of Ayers books, that he used Ayer's Chicago mansion to help kick-start his political life? After writing in his OWN BOOK that Rev Wright was his spritual leader and how Rev Wright married Barry and Michelle and then, on seperate occasions, baptised their two children; after being Rev Wright's congregant for over 20 years, suddenly he disagrees with what Wright has been saying about America and White people for those 20 years? That he didn't know "much" about ACORN although he did represent them in one lawsuit and that the founder of ACORN, Mark Rathke was one of Billy Ayers co-conspirator in the Weather Underground came as news to Senator Obama? And on and on and on. Who the hell would YOU trust, standing in the privacy of that voting booth - Obama or Senator McCain who has ALWAYS PUT AMERICA FIRST his entire life. Who IS considered a Maverick in the Republican Party and his VP, Sarah Palin won the Governorship of Alaska by taking on and beating a corrupt REPUBLICAN Govenor. Who would YOU TRUST?
Yeah, and I think that's who a majority of the American Voting Pubic will feel too.

re: #231 Adrenalyn

Hint: it'll start with the "fairness doctrine"
and take off from there

but also, did Biden not say he and Obama will get right down to prosecuting Bush and Cheney for War crimes ?

it would be bad for them to win

and yes, I was an adult and survived Carter
so I remember what that was like

I feel this will not compare

Could be, but I would assume that the First Amendment stands up. Although, with who he would probably appoint to the bench, things would get dicey at times.

Let's never find out!

re: #222 Adrenalyn

I am terribly and truly sorry
but I do disagree

I'd rather be alive& free and fight (back) unfairly
than to be killed, enslaved, etc......

no less is at stake

Excuse me? I'm talking about fighting so OBAMA doesn't happen! And the only way we can do that is with HONOR!

For example, as on an earlier thread here today, McCain supporters shouted down other McCain supporters who pushed the whole "Obama is a Muslim" meme.

I'm talking about all of us getting out there and doing all we can to volunteer at the local republican committee offices - making phone calls, passing out fliers, doing what ever - to help out in the cause.

You want to not be enslaved? Then get out and fight against it!

Donate an hour of your time to your local republican office!

Don't sit back and think it's inevitable! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

re: #173 Gus 802

I saw that USMC 1968 had passed on.

My condolensces to all that knew and loved him.

RIP USMC 1968

Here's health to you and to our Corps
Which we are proud to serve;
In many a strife we've fought for life
And have never lost our nerve;
If the Army and the Navy
Ever look on Heaven's scenes;
They will find the streets are guarded
By United States Marines.

re: #219 Intrepid
Im with ya bud! My father fought in WW2 (29th division, D-Day - Omaha Beach). This fight is nothing compared to what he ,and others ,went through for me. I dont think he ever thought his son would be fighting from within to protect that same country for his grandkids. But I gladly take the responsibility so ... lets rock!

re: #237 Karridine

Dear Leader Obama!

Most Gracious First One Obama!

O Thou First Comrade Obama!

/ THESE 'sound' about right, Matrix... :D

I'm 20, I don't deserve to think about these nightmares.

re: #230 Karridine

Meanwhile, across the South China, I'm perhaps thankful that the local political telenovela (i.e. soap opera) is more prominent than the one abroad. Perhaps it will shield me in the event of...well...you know.

re: #238 realwest

But no one that supports him believes any of that.

re: #235 redc1c4

GMTA!

Gaaarrrr, Matey..what are we drinking tonite?

re: #243 TheMatrix31

I'm 20, I don't deserve to think about these nightmares.

No one deserves it, no matter how old.

re: #239 TheMatrix31

Could be, but I would assume that the First Amendment stands up. Although, with who he would probably appoint to the bench, things would get dicey at times.

Let's never find out!

Yeah good luck with that.
You see what that got Joe the plumber.

re: #238 realwest

It may not look as though it's sticking in the peoples minds now,,but it is,and will.A stark reality comes to those standing at that lever on election day,and they will make the right decision,I am sure.

Night all. You rock.

re: #238 realwest

They'll trust Obama because unlike Rethuglicans who cover up the bitter infighting within their own cabal of elitists with smears against people who represent the spirit of progress, Obama will finally give a voice to those who have long since been disenfranchised by the system at large! Sure he may be rich and educated, but at least he actually worked to serve the poor...before the Republicans negated his progress in Chicago, forcing him to seek higher office!

//////////////////////////// there goes this week's state allotment of sarc slashes, back to the dark-grey market because calling it the black market is RACSIT!

re: #243 TheMatrix31

I'm 20, I don't deserve to think about these nightmares.

FINALLY! Someone younger than me on LGF!

Well all y'all it's been grand - and sad to hear that USMC 1968 has passed on. But I must go to sleep NOW.
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.
RIP, USMC 1968, you are where you should be, in God's loving arms.

Good night, all.

re: #252 laZardo

FINALLY! Someone younger than me on LGF!

I just found out NY Nana may be older than me,,LOL

re: #240 Intrepid

Excuse me? I'm talking about fighting so OBAMA doesn't happen! And the only way we can do that is with HONOR!

For example, as on an earlier thread here today, McCain supporters shouted down other McCain supporters who pushed the whole "Obama is a Muslim" meme.

I'm talking about all of us getting out there and doing all we can to volunteer at the local republican committee offices - making phone calls, passing out fliers, doing what ever - to help out in the cause.

You want to not be enslaved? Then get out and fight against it!

Donate an hour of your time to your local republican office!

Don't sit back and think it's inevitable! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

that is the spirit my dear poster
I don't want to fight dirty
or see Mccain do such
but when attacked, he MUST fight back
and not consider it "dishonorable" to do so

that is my opinion, at least

he should use every piece of ammunition at his disposal

you see, Obama is a lawyer
and lawyers know you attack with everything, no matter how trivial or how much it may appear as overkill

victory is the ultimate outcome, not negotiation, compromise or mediation but total and convincing victory

why must Republicans forget this about democrats/lawyers ?

The next time I check in will be from Bangkok. Had to switch hotels at the last minute because of protesters trying to overthrow the government in the first hotel's neighborhood.

Should be a fun trip. Always fun to see what kind of a translator we get for our concerts.

Won't miss the election drone from this wonderful country. I am relieved that I can keep in touch with CNN International. What a pleasure that is. No wonder so much of the world dislikes us.

Sleepy time. Good night lizards.

re: #244 laZardo

NO SHIELD, LaZardo! You'll suffer in your way as much as any other, in their way! We are ALL in this together, even the Socialist Hell-Holes currently pushing for an Obama win!

If Obama drags America down, the world will go with us!

re: #252 laZardo

FINALLY! Someone younger than me on LGF!

How old are you?