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The Stop Obama Tour in Colorado

Images | Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:56:41 am PDT

El Marco has a new photo essay on The Stop Obama Tour.

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1 jeremy0114  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:57:19am

There is my girl again... Gotta love Sarah!

2 Peacekeeper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:02am

Good luck with that.

3 pat  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:07am

Palin has enough energy for two.

4 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:15am
5 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:00:37am

If she hits him with the bus it will work for sure.
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For her safety, I hope that bus is armor plated.

6 red satellite  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:00:54am

Live from Colorado....it's not Saturday Night!

7 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:08am

Where I am, leftist lawyers are planning "ELECTION PROTECTION Leadership Training" and encouraging people to volunteer out of concern for their "civil rights".

Lizards, less than two weeks remain to exercise your self-interest and that of your family.

Please do something!

8 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:18am

Lloyd Marcus should write a book:

Marcus’ drift toward the right of the political spectrum began when he was about 10 years old. His parents moved with their five children into a brand-new, high-rise apartment building in the Baltimore projects. Then came their neighbors. Most of them were on various types of governmental assistance. Many were drug addicts, alcoholics and criminals. They destroyed the apartment building.”Within one year, it was ruined,” Marcus said. “It taught me a lot about liberalism. If you don’t work for something, you don’t care about it. People blame the white man. It wasn’t the white man in the halls raping people.”

This is exactly the type of story that should be promoted by the right because he's spot on.

9 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:36am

Thank God for these people. People who are self-made and work for what they believe in are the complete antithesis of the self-loathing, lazy, incompetent whiners who campaign for Obama.

10 Odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:02:28am

One Picture is worth a thousand words. Oblama Computer vs McCaine Computer

11 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:03:11am

There is no way Obama wins this. Once all the illegal registration forms are out of the equation, the media as much as they try, wont be able to hide it.
They say Obamas bounce is because of the economy, but I have a feeling it's because of all of the last minute voter regs. being turned in.

12 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:29am

Too bad they're just going to be in Crystal Lake today. Might've been fun to see them in the SW 'burbs.

13 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:48am

LOVE the shot of the bus with the rainbow over it. Great job, El Marco.

14 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:55am

Surprised it still has its wheels.

15 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:05:35am

I love this quote from Lloyd Marcus:

“We should stop calling it ‘conservativism’ and just call it what it is: ‘common sense’ “.

Only problem is, conservatism is, in many ways, more "nuanced" and complex than liberalism. Conservatism recognizes that the best way to get from point A to point B is not always in a straight line. Conservatism recognizes that it's better to have a less than perfectly efficient system that supports freedom, than an efficient system that destroys it. This is no longer clear to large numbers of people.

16 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:05:52am

re: #11 x-wing

There is no way Obama wins this. Once all the illegal registration forms are out of the equation, the media as much as they try, wont be able to hide it.
They say Obamas bounce is because of the economy, but I have a feeling it's because of all of the last minute voter regs. being turned in.

I don't know if i agree or even exactly understand your logic, but i certainly hope your conclusion is correct!

17 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:05am

re: #14 bosforus

Surprised it still has its wheels.

That was a bus? With wheels?

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18 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:06am

re: #11 x-wing

I'm concerned about the illegal ballots already in the system in Ohio. This morning Fox was reporting that the latest legal challenge would not be resolved for 3-6 months.

19 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:15am

re: #8 Sharmuta

This is exactly the type of story that should be promoted by the right because he's spot on.

Saw enough of it from classmates as I was growing up. The "Great Society" wasn't so great, and it destroyed a society.

20 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:54am

re: #7 alegrias

Where I am, leftist lawyers are planning "ELECTION PROTECTION Leadership Training" and encouraging people to volunteer out of concern for their "civil rights".

Lizards, less than two weeks remain to exercise your self-interest and that of your family.

Please do something!

Where are you?

21 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:07:07am

re: #10 Odinga

One Picture is worth a thousand words. Oblama Computer vs McCaine Computer

HAHAHAHA

That is the best. Absolutely the best.

22 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:07:59am

i'm sure this may already been posted...[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

thank goodness the military is full of very smart people!

23 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:08:55am

re: #10 Odinga

One Picture is worth a thousand words. Oblama Computer vs McCaine Computer

Actually McCain's real computer is strewn all over North Vietnam.

24 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:09:22am

Ugh, even Gallup's traditional model is trending the wrong way. More Palin buses, please.

25 opnion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:09:37am

I hope that this bus has bullit proof windows.
There is derangement in the land.

26 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:10:03am

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Actually McCain's real computer is strewn all over North Vietnam.

It's what the professionals call a computer crash.

27 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #26 HoosierHoops

It's what the professionals call a computer crash.

Well, since it was pre-Microsoft, it didn't have a blue screen when it froze up.

28 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:52am

re: #24 cliffster

Ugh, even Gallup's traditional model is trending the wrong way. More Palin buses, please.

I hope the McCain campaign is saving the best ads for a media blitz these last 2 weeks. I think we still have lots of people waking up and saying, "Duh, there's a Presidential election coming up? Hmm, guess I'll vote for that well-dressed and well-spoken young fellow, Brick O'Manna or whatever his name is ..."

29 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:01am

re: #18 jaunte

I'm concerned about the illegal ballots already in the system in Ohio. This morning Fox was reporting that the latest legal challenge would not be resolved for 3-6 months.

Me too. I heard that. It's un-real, I can't beleive they can't shut this early voting down. Or at least hold the ones that are problematic.

30 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:28am

re: #18 jaunte

I'm concerned about the illegal ballots already in the system in Ohio. This morning Fox was reporting that the latest legal challenge would not be resolved for 3-6 months.

Suppose it was proven that the Secretary of State acted in bad faith, knowingly accepting fraudulent registrations and votes, and that those votes threw the election to Obama. Suppose further that Obama knew about it and was complicit in the fraud (we already know about his ties to ACORN). Could legal action be taken to overturn the results of the election?

I hope this scenario would never happen, and I recognize the harm it would do to the electoral system. I'm just wondering if it's possible.

31 Sizzlack  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:52am

Apologies if this has been posted before but I just received it and quite enjoyed it...

Our Tax System Explained: Bar Stool Economics

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would
go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the
arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are
all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your
daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they
divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that
from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end
up being paid to drink his beer.
So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill
by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each
should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to
drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare
their savings.
'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to
the tenth man,' but he got $10!'
'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too.

It's unfair that he got ten times more than I got' 'That's true!' shouted
the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The
wealthy get all the breaks!'
'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks so the nine sat down
and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they
discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all
of them for even half of the bill!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start
drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

32 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:14:11am

Great Obama political cartoon.

33 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:14:50am

re: #30 doppelganglander

I'm hoping that it doesn't have to come to that. If the right side can mobilize everyone possible, McCain will squeak in.

34 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:14am

CNN reported yesterday incorrectly that the McCain Camp is ceding Colorado to Barat Obama.

CNN published this bogus report as VP Candidate Sarah Palin was setting all-time attendance records in Grand Junction just yesterday.

22,000 supporters [in a tiny town] showed up to see Governor Sarah Palin break a Grand Junction record!

Can you say "Commie News network"?

CNN will try to influence the election WHILE people are voting. like the did in FL 2000.

35 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:40am

Rasmussen results:

October 11 51.90 - 44.56% Obama +7.34%
October 12 51.09 - 45.02% Obama +6.07%
October 13 50.43 - 44.69% Obama +5.74%
October 14 50.23 - 44.60% Obama +5.63%
October 15 49.98 - 44.60% Obama +5.38%
October 16 49.85 - 46.28% Obama +3.57%
October 17 50.34 - 45.88% Obama +4.46%
October 18 50.25 - 45.46% Obama +4.79%
October 19 50.73 - 44.63% Obama +6.10%
October 20 49.55 - 45.80% Obama +3.75%
October 21 50.19 - 45.64% Obama +4.55%

36 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:43am
37 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:57am

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

38 zombie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:05am

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

39 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:37am

Hey....Charles and all....we may get a great view of the biggest mass explosion of moonbat heads if this is true...

Wow!

40 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:42am

re: #28 Tigger2005

I hope the McCain campaign is saving the best ads for a media blitz these last 2 weeks. I think we still have lots of people waking up and saying, "Duh, there's a Presidential election coming up? Hmm, guess I'll vote for that well-dressed and well-spoken young fellow, Brick O'Manna or whatever his name is ..."

Early voting is underway and I think a lot of the votes cast will happen in this period... This and the Biden gaffe and its potential impact on the campaign is why early voting should not be allowed...

41 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:42am

Where are the protestors dressed in polar bear costumes chanting "OH-BA-MA!, OH-BA-MA!"?

Does Pueblo, Colorado really have no moonbats?

Must be a nice place.

42 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:51am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

Relax--it ain't a race. Just get there by Nov 4th.

43 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:01am

re: #30 doppelganglander

The House would have to impeach the President, and the Senate would have to convict him to remove him from office. Sorry, but that ain't happening.

You could have pictures of Obama himself voting thousands of times, and the House ain't gonna do a thing as long as its controlled by democrats. Once McCain concedes, it's over. Now, McCain could pull a Gore, and sue over voter fraud before Obama takes office, but I can't see any State overturning the winning ticket, even if you proved the win was solely due to voter fraud.

44 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:43am

re: #38 zombie

All hail the undead Optical Character Recognition!

45 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:51am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

I don't know what you're talking about, but I like it.

46 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:19:13am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

This tactic is aimed at intimidating voters into not voting Republican because of the skewed ratios of votes slanted towards Democrats.

47 notutopia  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:19:43am

re: #38 zombie

Amazing what software can do! You go Zombie!

48 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:01am

re: #21 cliffster

HAHAHAHA

That is the best. Absolutely the best.

They could have done better with a fighter cockpit that was contemporary to John McCain's service.

What did he fly? A-4s?

49 vxbush  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:14am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

Well, hurry up and post it already! We'se a gettin' anxious to sees it!

50 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:24am

Here's some good news from Murthas' district. The 2004 election was won by Kerry 51% to 49%. And I'm sure the heavily Dem. area are "Pleased as Punch" that their congressman just called them rednecks on national t.v.

51 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:27am

re: #38 zombie

I shiver with antici
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52 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:38am

NC Early Voting
Total Votes Cast: 474,276
Party ID D57/R27/I17
Black Vote: 28.7%

Obama has been encouraging AAs to vote early so future votes will be disproportionatly white.

Black vote in 2004 was 18.5%.

53 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:53am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

this early voting is BS..how soon before the actual election will the msm project obama the winner? Oh thats right cnn, nyt, wash post, etc.. already have.....I sense a dewey defeats truman scenario on the night of Nov 4th.

54 Globular Cluster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:55am

re: #21 cliffster

HAHAHAHA

That is the best. Absolutely the best.

I agree. It is awesome.

55 favorednation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:57am

re: #28 Tigger2005

"Brick Omamma"!
I'm gonna make a sign LOL

56 zombie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:21am

re: #49 vxbush

Well, hurry up and post it already! We'se a gettin' anxious to sees it!

Don't hold your breath. It'll be at least not until tonight, and possibly not until tomorrow.

57 notutopia  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:28am

re: #9 Joan Not of Arc

And they are brave. SHOW NO FEAR!

58 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:37am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

If you have been battling the Great Hippie with his Mountains then probably need a shower also. Now replace that grubby pencil with an American Cross Pen. You may be an Ink Stained Wretch but you have style.

59 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:23:20am

re: #32 NY Nana

Great Obama political cartoon.


That was great..thanks for posting that..

60 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:24:49am
Lloyd Marcus opened the event with a beautiful song he wrote about America, then gave an excellent talk. “We should stop calling it ‘conservativism’ and just call it what it is: ‘common sense’ “.


Which is what I have always thought it was.

61 summergurl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:24:56am

The potential fraud and the already apparent fraud has me troubled. Something, someone, whatever has to verify that the people who vote are who they are and have cast only one vote.

62 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:25:18am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

Do tell zombie.

63 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:26:11am

re: #62 jorline

Do tell zombie.

Good Afternoon Jorline. You doing well? Things are good here.

64 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:26:48am

re: #39 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Hey....Charles and all....we may get a great view of the biggest mass explosion of moonbat heads if this is true...

Wow!

What a shock, Obama using Pay-to-Play for his own election night party in a public park, Grant Park.

I may just have to go and check out the festivities, Zombie-style. Think I'll park the car a decent distance away though.

65 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:41am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

MSNBC calls Colorado for Obama.

66 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:50am

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

67 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:59am
68 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:28:24am

re: #56 zombie

Don't hold your breath. It'll be at least not until tonight, and possibly not until tomorrow.

Perhaps another FOX exclusive?

Congrats on yesterdays FOX coverage, zombie.

69 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:29:23am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

BOHICA?

JAFLW

70 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:29:27am

Two things from Hillbuzz today:

One- they like us and are asking for help.

Two- and this is the one you folks will like- Battleground 2008 poll shows STATISTICAL TIE

71 Pyrocles  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:02am

I can't wait until the West no longer needs Middle Eastern oil (if that ever happens...) Then, the savages will come begging us to buy their only means of income.

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

72 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:05am

re: #63 midwestgak

Good Afternoon Jorline. You doing well? Things are good here.

Hey mwg...long time no see. All is well here...I get to see the Rhuemy for the first time on November 3rd.

How are you?

73 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:20am

re: #55 favorednation

"Brick Omamma"!
I'm gonna make a sign LOL

Barack Yo Mama.

74 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:31:01am

re: #66 alegrias

Let's see what he says 2 weeks from now. If Obama would somehow win, I see bombs falling over Iran.

If we're going to pay for their oil, we might as well make them pay

75 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:31:53am

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.


I'm not an economic whiz, but was it just coincidental when the "Drill Now" movement started taking off here in the US, oil prices dropped dramatically? Now is not the time to stop progress on that front.

76 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:32:14am

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.


saw this comming 3 weeks ago when the prices really started to drop. the cool weather is moving in across the nation, so that means time to fill up your heating oil tanks, time for opec to cut production and reap the money! raise the prices! they gonna get every last dollar out of our pockets they can.

77 Tarkus289  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:32:58am

re: #51 Who Watches the Watchmen?

But maybe the rain .......

78 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:07am

So, they raise gas prices ... our economy goes into a recession ... demand goes down ... prices go down ... sorry Iran, that's the way the market works.

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

79 fish  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:09am

re: #4 taxfreekiller

news of grandmother

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Wow. A broken hip. The exact kind of injury you would expect after being thrown under a bus...

80 Arkay  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:50am

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

81 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:22am

re: #71 Pyrocles

I can't wait until the West no longer needs Middle Eastern oil (if that ever happens...) Then, the savages will come begging us to buy their only means of income.

Really! Without anyone buying their oil, what have they got? A gang of sand and rocks with ugly black stuff under it. They would have to beg just to stay a third world country. Is there anything lower? ;-)>

82 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:26am

re: #76 Spider Mensch

they gonna get every last dollar out of our pockets they can.

In the grand tradition of "eat the other guy's french fries first," they are going to run out some day. They know they have limited time left to conquer us.

83 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:00am

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?

84 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:10am

Restaurant Offers Free Pizza for McCain Signs

[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

I wonder if that is with or without pepperoni?

85 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:20am

re: #72 jorline

Hey mwg...long time no see. All is well here...I get to see the Rhuemy for the first time on November 3rd.

How are you?

Seeing the Rhuemy the day before the election eh? I'm getting more encouraged by the day that McCain will win.

Anyway, he'll be able to really get down with that nasty illness. There are many treatments available now which have good success. Let me know. I'll be around.

My location (cube) has changed. I am now with the "mainstream." Was sorta hidden away from the rest of the employees. But the cube opened up (two people left the company unexpectedly). Glad neither of them was me. :)

86 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:22am

Joe the Policeman drags screaming Libtards across the asphalt as they try to block the baracuda juggernaut.
CNN

87 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:25am

re: #80 Arkay

Try going in to the office and demand to help. Or go to McCain's website where you can sign up to help and make phone calls for him from home.

88 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:07am

re: #68 jorline

Perhaps another FOX exclusive?

Congrats on yesterdays FOX coverage, zombie.


What was the lunch special today Jorline?
Obama Omletes?
( we make it up as we go)
Obama mama's?
( you can never have too much booze during an obama election cycle)
Obama flapjacks?
( they're some light and fuffy brown..they're the best in the town)
ok.. I ripped the pancake reference from Zappa )

89 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:23am

re: #84 Nevergiveup

Restaurant Offers Free Pizza for McCain Signs

[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

I wonder if that is with or without pepperoni?

Are they encouraging stealing? Is this illegal?

Sounds like the British paying the Indians for colonial scalps.

90 bellamags  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:31am

re: #70 Sharmuta

wow. what an article from a Hill site.

91 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:52am

re: #83 tfc3rid

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?

Electrifying is right. As in the fence you and I will be behind for daring to criticize The One.

92 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:50am

re: #80 Arkay

Say what? and a down ding to boot.

93 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:54am

re: #79 fish

Wow. A broken hip. The exact kind of injury you would expect after being thrown under a bus...


* * *
Broken hip needn't mean death--

John McCain's mother broke her hip at 93 or 94 years of age--while partying in Washington, DC!

She fell from some stairs after attending a party for John McCain at the Corcoran Gallery next to the White House, but was not, repeat, was NOT, thrown down by her own son!

And as you have seen on numerous interviews, at 96, McCain's mother is hale & hearty & out there stumping for Sarah Palin & Johnny Mac.

94 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:26am

re: #86 odinga

Joe the Policeman drags screaming Libtards across the asphalt as they try to block the baracuda juggernaut.
CNN

I'm sure the "liberals" were just making certain that Palin and her supporters enjoyed their full civil rights to speak, listen, and move about freely.

/

95 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:54am

Obama campaign selling Chicago election night coverage packages to news outlets

The Obama campaign is putting a hefty price tag on the best camera and reporting positions for news organizations covering Barack Obama's outdoor election night activities in downtown Chicago. If a reporter wants access to the file center--which will be the best place to find Obama officials and spokesmen--be prepared to write a check for $935. The cheapest place a reporter could stand on a riser with a view is $880.

That $935 covers one reporter in a heated file tent, power, cable tv, internet and food. I am told by an Obama spokesman who did not want his name used that this just covers costs and they are not turning a profit on this. The planners could have built in more al a carte options.

This is an outrageous pay to play plan that caters to national elite outlets with deep pockets.

**self deleted comment**

96 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:57am

Whatcha want? Rock bands? Hollyweird stars? Good luck getting their agents to return your calls.


re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

97 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:40:16am

re: #70 Sharmuta

One thing about donating to Hillbuzz for that party. Why donate for a party, when you can donate to the GOP to make it easier to beat Obama? Save the celebrations for later... There's work to do....

98 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:40:47am

re: #94 Silhouette

I'm sure the "liberals" were just making certain that Palin and her supporters enjoyed their full civil rights to speak, listen, and move about freely.

/

If a conservative speaks and no liberal hears it, is it still hate speech?

99 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:12am

re: #95 jorline

Obama campaign selling Chicago election night coverage packages to news outlets

**self deleted comment**

If it only covers cost, how come the better locations are more expensive?

100 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:35am

re: #85 midwestgak

Seeing the Rhuemy the day before the election eh? I'm getting more encouraged by the day that McCain will win.

Anyway, he'll be able to really get down with that nasty illness. There are many treatments available now which have good success. Let me know. I'll be around.

My location (cube) has changed. I am now with the "mainstream." Was sorta hidden away from the rest of the employees. But the cube opened up (two people left the company unexpectedly). Glad neither of them was me. :)

Sounds like everything is going well for you...good.

I will keep you updated about the RA via email.

101 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:36am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

If I had to guess, assuming this has to do with your success with OCR, I'd say you managed to extract text from an old book that was defaced by said Dirty Hippie with a pencil. No doubt the book was out of print and this was your best shot at getting the goods. And it seems to have something to do with Bill Ayers. Can't wait to see the results.

102 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:37am

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

* * *
Why don't you just show up (come to the aid of your country), instead of waiting for Mac & his underdog campaign, to come to your aid?

Git! Just Git! If you want to win this thing, git going yourself. We need your help, and all hands on deck are busy, so go there & offer yourself, your time, your talents, your treasure.

Thank you for your service--two phone calls are a good first step but we've only got two weeks.

104 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:48am

re: #95 jorline

The beginning of Change... What a night it will be... And you know the media will pay it...

It's just another $$ bundling exercise...

105 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:51am

re: #99 Nevergiveup

If it only covers cost, how come the better locations are more expensive?

Because better locations cost more! Duh!

106 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:27am
The protesters were members of a group called "Red Pill," Smith said.

A Web site that carried an announcement of the group's planned protest urged supporters to show Palin "that we as a community say no to war, no to corporate cronyism, and no to four more years of Bush-style leadership."

But apparently say "yes" to violence, crime, intimidation, and attempts to silence or hinder those with whom you disagree politically.

Scratch a "liberal", find a dictator.

107 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:37am

re: #105 Tigger2005

Because better locations cost more! Duh!

Is the air better?

108 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:18am

re: #70 Sharmuta

Two things from Hillbuzz today:

One- they like us and are asking for help.

Two- and this is the one you folks will like- Battleground 2008 poll shows STATISTICAL TIE

And they have some valid points to make about that poll - especially in regard to the msm getting lots into eeyore-mood during the primaries!

So pull up yer socks, don't listen to the msm, disregard their polls and work - its only for two more weeks!

109 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:33am

re: #97 lawhawk

I agree. I'd rather give money to McCain/Palin, the RNC and my local republicans. I just found it interesting how they've embraced both LGF and Ace as allies- at least temporarily.

110 mattm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:35am

re: #39 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Hey....Charles and all....we may get a great view of the biggest mass explosion of moonbat heads if this is true...

Wow!

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

111 bellamags  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:50am

re: #101 doppelganglander

great detective work, doppel

112 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:16am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

Did OPEC actually agree to that? Did Iran strongarm them into it? Or is it bluster?

If this news causes another stock market crash and sends the economy into a recession, how will they keep this up?

113 musicman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:35am

re: #89 Tigger2005

Are they encouraging stealing? Is this illegal?

Sounds like the British paying the Indians for colonial scalps.

re: #84 Nevergiveup

Restaurant Offers Free Pizza for McCain Signs

[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

I wonder if that is with or without pepperoni?

Link does not work for me.

114 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:46am

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

Hola alegrias!

The mullahs are just sweating. High oil prices have mitigated some of the effects of the sanctions, which helped keep them in power. Their inflation is at 30% and climbing. OPEC is meeting to discuss cutting production but the fact is that the global slowdown will keep decreasing demand. China is slowing faster than expected (tho the growth rate of 8% is still phenomenal). They're decreasing taxes on home purchases and giving VAT rebates to some industries.

Keep your eye on shipping. It's down considerably - partly because of costs (which is causing some companies that had off-shored operations to relocate back home) and partly because of the credit crunch. Shipping uses a lot of oil - most of it 'bunker' but the maritime nut cases at the UN have put the kabosh on that because of the sulpher content. Having to use more refined fuel raises costs - which decreases shipping and therefore decreases demand.

115 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:54am

I beleive I made this exact point about McCain's using a computer on a past thread.

[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...]

116 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:10am

Lib friend at work was chiding me on how Joe the Plumber got "owned" with the license and tax issues.

I looked at him at asked "Is that how you want an Obama administration to react if you ask a tough question or criticize it?"

He was literally speechless and his mouth open and closed a few times as he contemplated the idea.

117 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:23am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

* * *
And his chubby side kick Hugo Chavez is equally nasty about hurting the USA. They're plotting this Friday to hike gas prices.

118 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:25am

re: #86 odinga

Joe the Policeman drags screaming Libtards across the asphalt as they try to block the baracuda juggernaut.
CNN

Sigh. Pity they didn't lay the smackdown on the libtards, just some Road Rash.

JAFLW

119 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:34am

re: #110 mattm

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

I know.

BO is such a whore.

I hope he loses....I'd love to see the crowd's reaction.

120 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:58am

re: #115 Ben Hur

I beleive I made this exact point about McCain's using a computer on a past thread.

[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...]

You're not the only who made that point........

121 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #88 HoosierHoops

What was the lunch special today Jorline?
Obama Omletes?
( we make it up as we go)
Obama mama's?
( you can never have too much booze during an obama election cycle)
Obama flapjacks?
( they're some light and fuffy brown..they're the best in the town)
ok.. I ripped the pancake reference from Zappa )

Special should have been;

Obama Burger.

Just a bun piled high with crap...lol

Add cheese and make it an Elitist Obama Burger!

122 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:46:30am

re: #23 Nevergiveup

All except for the Tail, because Billy Ayers and his spouse Bernardine are wearing rings made from it.

/Sort of. Made from U.S. Aircraft, not necessarily Sen. McCain's.

123 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:46:51am

re: #108 yma o hyd

Hillbuzz also has a great analysis of the Nickelodeon Kid's poll, where 0bama won by 2%.

124 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:17am

re: #111 bellamags

great detective work, doppel

Thanks. We'll see if I'm right. Even if I'm wrong, I'm sure zombie will have something very interesting to share with us.

125 musicman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:22am

re: #95 jorline

Obama campaign selling Chicago election night coverage packages to news outlets

**self deleted comment**

I costs more to worship at the feet of Obama. I wonder how much it costs to kiss his ring?

126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:22am

re: #110 mattm

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

$300 for a one night long distance line, and they want to manage my healthcare?

127 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #98 jcm

If a conservative speaks and no liberal hears it, is it still hate speech?

Oh, c'mon, The answer is obvious...

/moonbat off

JAFLW

128 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:25am

re: #110 mattm

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

Weird since they all think the night will be over by 8PM whhen they win VA...

129 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:53am

re: #122 Cap'n DOC

All except for the Tail, because Billy Ayers and his spouse Bernardine are wearing rings made from it.

/Sort of. Made from U.S. Aircraft, not necessarily Sen. McCain's.

Yeah I read that somewhere also. Made me wanta puke. Nice friends Obama hangs with.

130 Arkay  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:27am

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?>

Yeah--if it were someone other than Obama running.

"But they ain't, ain't they?" :0p

As for all the down dings, don't blame ME for the truth.

I'm a lifetime Republican with 24 years' political experience. A lot of it on the Hill. And I know an incompetently run, don't-wanna-win campaign when I see one.

Add to that, Obama thuggery. Saw a sign up in Macomb County headquarters: "Sorry we cannot replace stolen lawn signs." I asked the lady, WTF? She says, "There's a $1.50 a sign bounty being paid by the unions for stolen McCain lawn signs. We can't keep them up."

131 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:28am
A Military Times poll indicates landslide support for John McCain, who captures 68 percent of the military vote to Barack Obama's 23 percent.

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

And because they support McCain, this pole will get 0 publicity.

132 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:29am

re: #122 Cap'n DOC

All except for the Tail, because Billy Ayers and his spouse Bernardine are wearing rings made from it.

/Sort of. Made from U.S. Aircraft, not necessarily Sen. McCain's.

The go to bed every night rubbing the rings and wishing it was McCain's plane.

133 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:33am

re: #121 jorline

Special should have been;

Obama Burger.

Just a bun piled high with crap...lol

Add cheese and make it an Elitist Obama Burger!


Don't forget the arugula.

134 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:42am

re: #124 doppelganglander

Thanks. We'll see if I'm right. Even if I'm wrong, I'm sure zombie will have something very interesting to share with us.

After 2 months of intensive investigative work myself.. I can state with certainty that Zombie is a Girl..no a Boy..no a girl..no a..well crap!

135 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:51am

re: #121 jorline

Special should have been;

Obama Burger.

Just a bun piled high with crap...lol

Add cheese and make it an Elitist Obama Burger!

It gets cut into pieces and is redistribed to waiting customers.

136 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:52am

Do not despair. This race is as tight as the skin on Pelosi's face.

Biden's forehead shows no signs of Encephalization. It is as smooth as an ice rink. Get out the zamboni.

137 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:05am

re: #8 Sharmuta

Lloyd Marcus should write a book:

This is exactly the type of story that should be promoted by the right because he's spot on.

Where is the link to that?

138 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:12am

re: #108 yma o hyd

Yma -- So good to read your voice! I'm going to get my hair cut off -- about 12 inches of it! -- and will be back in a couple hours, a fraction of a pound lighter! Don't want to look like a beach bum for my interview, you know.

139 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:46am

re: #137 DistantThunder

Where is the link to that?

Uh- at the top of this page....

140 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:57am

re: #86 odinga

Those idiots are going to get someone hurt, jumping into the road like that.

141 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:59am

re: #104 tfc3rid

The beginning of Change... What a night it will be... And you know the media will pay it...

It's just another $$ bundling exercise...

They can throw rocks at AIG expenditures all they want.

I want to see the price tag of Obama's taxpayer funded victory loser party if he wins when he gets dumped.

142 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:19am

re: #125 musicman

I costs more to worship at the feet of Obama. I wonder how much it costs to kiss his ring ass?

Fixed!

JAFLW

143 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:36am

re: #114 wahabicorridor

* * *
Hola W. Corridor!

Thank you for your economic insights. Yes, China's sweating major problems (labor riots) as Chinese lose jobs because we've slowed down buying their stuff.

Mullahs need their moolah and what have they got besides oil & crime syndicates?

144 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:36am

re: #120 jcm

You're not the only who made that point........


Obviously.

145 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:55am

re: #138 hermeneutics

Yma -- So good to read your voice! I'm going to get my hair cut off -- about 12 inches of it! -- and will be back in a couple hours, a fraction of a pound lighter! Don't want to look like a beach bum for my interview, you know.


If you're still here, donate your hair.

146 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:09am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.


If this idiot says that I'm predicting that next year at this time gasoline is $1.85 a gallon and oil is $45 per barrel.

147 jill e  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:10am

From Doug Ross @ Journal:

The Manifesto of the Silenced Majority

• We believe that Barack Obama is a brilliant orator and a man possessed of more charisma than any politician since JFK.

• But we also believe that his philosophy of "spreading the wealth around" is an ill-disguised form of socialism that undermines everything America holds dear.

• We believe that a "tax cut on 95% of working Americans" when only 63% of Americans pay taxes is nonsensical.

• We believe that the Obama campaign's obfuscated funding for ACORN (originally described as "event planning") undermines the integrity of our elections and calls into question the legality of his tactics.

• We believe that Barack Obama's plan to form a "civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military is ill-considered at best.

• We believe that the Obama campaign's efforts to intimidate WGN (on two separate occasions) when it interviewed his political foes endangers free speech.

• We believe that Obama's choice of Joe Biden as VP runs counter to his twin aspirations of "hope" and "change".

• We believe that a man who could not otherwise receive a security clearance should not serve as Commander-in-Chief.

• We believe that Obama's 20-year relationship with his pastor, who he once described as his "spiritual adviser", displays a basic affinity for a racist ideology that runs counter to everything his candidacy should stand for.

• We believe that most of Obama's senate experience has been spent running for office; from the time he was sworn in as a U.S. senator to the time he formed a presidential exploratory committee, he logged only 143 days in the senate.

• We believe that Obama does voters a disservice by hiding his chairmanship of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (a $165 million dollar effort to improve Chicago's schools) when he used that service as his central experience in 2000 during his first run for Congress.

• We believe that Obama made a series of very poor choices by serving on boards and sharing an office with Bill Ayers (for three years); Ayers' organization killed three police officers, bombed numerous government facilities and nearly detonated a nail bomb at a Fort Dix Officer's Dance.

• We believe that, no matter Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers, his evasive and ever-morphing answers about their work together smack of a coverup.

• We believe that anyone -- no matter their position on abortion -- who supports killing an infant that survived a botched abortion is on the wrong side of any moral code.

• We believe that Obama's advisers and contributors -- from Tony Rezko to Valerie Jarrett to Allison Davis -- cost taxpayers millions in development fees for failed (and often uninhabitable) apartment complexes.

• We believe that Obama's Illinois state senate experience was insubstantial: it was, by his own description, a "part-time position" and he maintained two offices (one at the state senate and one at his law firm).

• We believe that Obama's state senatorial experience was further diluted by his 129 "present" votes, which, as NPR observes , "There's a saying in Springfield that there's a reason why the present button is yellow... [but] I don't think that Barack Obama was necessarily a coward for voting present on those bills..."

• We also believe that Obama's experience as a community organizer and as a trainer for ACORN are not qualifications for the presidency.

• We believe that the candidate has not been forthcoming with his background and the key influencing forces during his formative years.

We therefore believe that Barack Obama is ill-prepared and ill-suited for the Presidency.

148 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:10am

re: #145 newsjunkie_ky

If you're still here, donate your hair.

I will.

149 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:36am

re: #133 redstateredneck

Don't forget the arugula.

Sorry...thanks rsrn.

150 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:42am

re: #130 Arkay

You just told us about the sign bounty. Would you mind telling the authorities? Maybe they could check into that.

151 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:55am

re: #148 hermeneutics

I will.

Many years ago, I went through chemo and lost my locks. A silly hat sufficed for me, but I understand all too well what it feels like to be a bald woman.

152 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:57am

re: #131 Ben Hur

Where was the poll that said the military was all Ron Paul, based on donations? And then, if I'm remembering right, one later saying that they were all for Obama. We knew it had to be bunk, especially because people can self-report occupation/employer.

153 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:53:15am

Let's not forget what Obama really is at heart - a Chicago Lawyer - the most corrupt of the most corrupt. Lawyer are the second least trusted profession right above used car salesman.


42 Reasons Why I Hate Lawyers

Wait’ll you hear about the lawyer who billed a client for
the time spent having sex together!

1) Because University of Texas finance professor Stephen
Magee has calculated that each U.S. lawyer drains the economy
of an average of $1 million a year in productivity.

2) Because the U.S. harbored 748,028 creatures of the bar as
of 1990, according to the American Bar Association.

3) Because if Magee is right, those leeches now suck some
three-quarters of a trillion dollars out of our economy annually.

4) Because the emotional turmoil caused by all those lawyers
is every bit as costly as the economic toll.

5) Because the ABA expects there to be, ouch, a million lawyers
by 2000.

154 Charles  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:54:47am

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:54:53am

Ace has a story of a leaked PA internal from the Obama camp... +2.

RCP has him at +11 in Pa.

/so, apply that 9 pnt fudge factor to other polls and see what you see.

Looking good folks, stick to it!

156 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:18am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Wow... That is something else... The war against the MSM is growing...

157 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:20am

re: #123 Sharmuta

Hillbuzz also has a great analysis of the Nickelodeon Kid's poll, where 0bama won by 2%.

That is really interesting - in the other article you linked they said that Kerry was up by 11% in that poll.
It should really really not be happening like that for the B0, up by two, thats 2 piddling points against McCain - who is old, yeah, and has no kiddies singing that he'll 'change the world' ...

That makes me think his Obamamarathon TV presence will become an epic fail.

158 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:38am

re: #145 newsjunkie_ky

If you're still here, donate your hair.


Hey ya news..guess what? I got a dog Saturday...

159 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:01am

re: #151 hermeneutics

Many years ago, I went through chemo and lost my locks. A silly hat sufficed for me, but I understand all too well what it feels like to be a bald woman.


Not just chemo. Alopecia is not that rare in women and children. Daughter #2 had a fairly large patch of hair fall out overnight when she was in 5th grade. Luckily, we could arrange what was left to cover the spot. Also, due to a really good dermatologist, her hair grew back. A lot of cases never do.

160 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:05am

...

161 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:10am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Who does he think he is?/sarc

162 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:23am

Does anyone know why the GWU/Battleground poll is ignored? I know the media def ignores it and probably best to ignore all polls until later next week. It's just interesting. RCP does show it but thye post it tword the bottom of the list. Curious if it's not taken seriously. Anyone know?

163 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:28am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Klein is one.

164 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:40am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

The era of cheap oil is over? Someone ought to be looking at that latest trend in oil - the decline by 50% since its all time highs over the summer. Looks like the Iranians picked the wrong time to stop sniffing glue.

165 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:41am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Do you blame him? He doesn't want a stinky plane like Obama's.

166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:49am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Looks like McCain wised up finally.

167 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:07am

re: #156 tfc3rid

Wow... That is something else... The war against the MSM is growing...

He is quite pissed about the hit piece on Cindy.

168 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:21am

re: #144 Ben Hur

Obviously.

After the townhall debate a local talking air head critized the way McCain was holding the microphone.

I wrote a very terse email describing McCain's injuries and torture, told him is shouldn't be opening his yap on the tube because he was too ignorant and stoopid to be commenting on the subject.

169 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:30am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Didn't they dump Maureen Dowd on the tarmac in Washington PA back in August? As a slap in the face to the NYT? She kvetched about 'first amendment' crappola if I recall.

170 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:31am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Blowback's a bitch.

171 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:54am

re: #166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Looks like McCain wised up finally.

And theyare complaining to NBC about Andrea Mitchell. Hey welcome to the party John!

172 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:03am

re: #131 Ben Hur

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

And because they support McCain, this pole will get 0 publicity.

But ... but ... they gave over $20,000 to the B0 campaign, they did!

173 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:07am

re: #153 DistantThunder

You sure of that. I'm pretty sure that politician is the least trusted profession these days (though many politicians are lawyers).

174 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:20am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

* * *
Thank you Charles.

The New York Times, this year, doing the work even departed Lee Atwater wouldn't do!

175 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:28am

re: #153 DistantThunder

Let's not forget what Obama really is at heart - a Chicago Lawyer - the most corrupt of the most corrupt. Lawyer are the second least trusted profession right above used car salesman.

Working girls try harder?
/ducks and runs

176 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:38am

re: #162 janmar

Does anyone know why the GWU/Battleground poll is ignored? I know the media def ignores it and probably best to ignore all polls until later next week. It's just interesting. RCP does show it but thye post it tword the bottom of the list. Curious if it's not taken seriously. Anyone know?

I heard the Battleground poll, from Rush, is accurate because it is bi-partisan: a Democrat polls Democrats and a republican polls Republicans.

177 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:59am

re: #147 jill e

Where do I sign?

178 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:29am

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Hey ya news..guess what? I got a dog Saturday...


Awww. Tell us more.............

179 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:44am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

'bout time.

180 Syrah  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:50am

We need to use a different word other than "Elitist" when talking about the snooty left's derision of Palin, McCain or any other Republican.

We need to call them Snobs.

Elite and elitist are not pejorative enough.

Snob is.

Snobs describes them to a "T".

The snooty left are not Elites, they are Snobs.

181 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:00:08pm
182 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:00:20pm

re: #138 hermeneutics

Yma -- So good to read your voice! I'm going to get my hair cut off -- about 12 inches of it! -- and will be back in a couple hours, a fraction of a pound lighter! Don't want to look like a beach bum for my interview, you know.

12 inches - blimey!
(Green with envy ...!)

Gotta have before-and-after photos!

183 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:00:52pm

re: #168 jcm

After the townhall debate a local talking air head critized the way McCain was holding the microphone.

I wrote a very terse email describing McCain's injuries and torture, told him is shouldn't be opening his yap on the tube because he was too ignorant and stoopid to be commenting on the subject.


I guy I work with, in his late 20s, joined us for lunch last week.

This is a very smart person.

He said he couldn't understand what was up with McCains arms and how funny he holds them.

We let him know.

He really had no idea.

184 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:05pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Last week I was driving in the motorcade for the campaign and asked the Press about the Maureen Dowd story. They assured me she was never really on the plane, it was full, she didn't have a reservation and no one, even other journalists, thought it was an issue between McCain and the Press.

185 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:16pm

Strange, though - kicking anyone off the plane is the opposite of what our wise friend Bill Kristol suggested.

186 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:28pm

re: #181 odinga

The Obama salute's creepy predecessor

nuff said.

Good find. Updinged ya.

187 Syrah  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:34pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Good.

Its not like they were ever going to give him a fair shake.

188 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:44pm

re: #155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Just brought up RCP daily tracking and it's showing Obama + 7
Looking better all the time.

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

189 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:02:51pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

* * *

This year, the New York Times goes after McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter and her schoolmates--something liberals accused Republicans of doing eight years ago.

I'll bet it was liberals who attacked little Bridget McCain eight years ago.

Glad the McCain camp has figured out who's looking out for them, and who is against them.

190 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:07pm

re: #183 Ben Hur

I guy I work with, in his late 20s, joined us for lunch last week.

This is a very smart person.

He said he couldn't understand what was up with McCains arms and how funny he holds them.

We let him know.

He really had no idea.

I could somewhat understand an ordinary person who's not a political wonk not knowing. But a TV station talking airhead who's supposed to know the candidates, histories and issues?

No mercy. I really ripped at him, I was so pissed at his comments.

191 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:16pm

re: #59 HoosierHoops

Thanks. I had meant to post it yesterday, when it was in the NY Post. This damned election has me in a constant state of agita....we canceled our subscription, amazingly, 2 days before they endorsed Hussein, and subscribed to the NY Post, who had already endorsed McCain/Palin.

We got phone calls every day after from the Daily News, asking us to re-consider, and offering a deal...finally I took the phone out of NY Grampa's hand yesterday, and told the rep never to call us again, and that she could stuff the crap sheet where the sun don't shine, and to never, ever call here again.

Amazing how good I felt! NY Grampa is still sitting there with a stunned facial expression, so help me! ;)

I had been getting the Post in an email daily and still do.

It is owned by Murdoch, and I was worried that the Post might not endorse, as Foxnews seems to be deteriorating..but they came through, and the Daily News is owned by Mort Zuckerman, who is a Zionist. Some Zionist. Feh.

192 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:30pm

re: #155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ace has a story of a leaked PA internal from the Obama camp... +2.

RCP has him at +11 in Pa.

/so, apply that 9 pnt fudge factor to other polls and see what you see.

Looking good folks, stick to it!

I KNEW it! And, I really believe +2 is generous....

193 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:33pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Hm.
Any reason given?

194 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:38pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Good for him. Letting the NYT on board is like hiring a babysitter from NAMBLA.

195 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:24pm

re: #192 PAgirlinNC

I KNEW it! And, I really believe +2 is generous....

Remember this point 4 years ago.

Kerry was a lock.

196 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:50pm

re: #193 yma o hyd

Hm.
Any reason given?

I imagine it had something to do with the hitpiece on Cindy McCain.

197 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:56pm

176 DistantThunder
10/21/08 11:58:38 am reply quote 0

re: #162 janmar

Does anyone know why the GWU/Battleground poll is ignored? I know the media def ignores it and probably best to ignore all polls until later next week. It's just interesting. RCP does show it but thye post it tword the bottom of the list. Curious if it's not taken seriously. Anyone know?

I heard the Battleground poll, from Rush, is accurate because it is bi-partisan: a Democrat polls Democrats and a republican polls Republicans.

Interesting because they put the race at 48-47 for barry.

198 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:57pm

re: #155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ace has a story of a leaked PA internal from the Obama camp... +2.

RCP has him at +11 in Pa.

/so, apply that 9 pnt fudge factor to other polls and see what you see.

Looking good folks, stick to it!

I have been sayin [I dropped the "g" to piss of Noonan] for a month that PA is going RED. It is definitely in play. The polls make no sense. Ignore them and Vote.

199 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:00pm

re: #189 alegrias

* * *

This year, the New York Times goes after McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter and her schoolmates--something liberals accused Republicans of doing eight years ago.

I'll bet it was liberals who attacked little Bridget McCain eight years ago.

Glad the McCain camp has figured out who's looking out for them, and who is against them.

I just hope it is not to little to late

200 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:07pm

re: #188 x-wing

Just brought up RCP daily tracking and it's showing Obama + 7
Looking better all the time.

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

Crap wrong poll. never mind.

201 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:25pm

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Hey ya news..guess what? I got a dog Saturday...

What breed?
What colour?
What age?
Has he chewed any favourite shoes yet?
C'mon, spill the beans, lizards need to know!

202 Shug  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:58pm

re: #181 odinga

The Obama salute's creepy predecessor

nuff said.


and both leaders were excellent speakers and could really fill up a park in Berlin

203 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:06:30pm

Something to consider about McCain barring some of the press from his plane- Dear Leader already went this route with staffers from the New Yorker, so if they want to complain, they'll be hypocrites (again) for taking McCain to task for it and not 0bama.

204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:06:58pm
205 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:07:22pm

re: #181 odinga

The Obama salute's creepy predecessor

nuff said.

Just an FYI- the PUMA blogs had that a couple weeks ago.

206 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:07:42pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

"The era of cheap shots is finished."

207 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:06pm

Jesus was not a community organizer; but God is a Governor.

208 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:08pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some one at MoveOn thinks they're being clever again:

PSA: “Voting Republican even once can have disastrous effects that last for years.”

My response to them. It'll ruin more than your day.

209 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:12pm

re: #131 Ben Hur

A Military Times poll indicates landslide support for John McCain, who captures 68 percent of the military vote to Barack Obama's 23 percent.

Here are the stories from September of '07, and then repeated again this past August.

The story/lie they are selling here is that those in the military, those most affected by the war, want the anti-war candidates.

From Sept '07

Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul have little in common politically, except their opposition to the Iraq war.
Obama, an Illinois senator, brought in more donations from (those that work in the military) than any White House contender from either party. The Democrat announced Wednesday his plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2008.

The sentence about more military support immediately followed by one about troop withdrawal, clearly linking the two ideas.

In 2002, the center said Democrats received 23% of contributions from military workers; Republicans got 77%. This year, 40% of their donations have gone to Democrats running for Congress and president. The GOP got 59%.

The donation patterns "would suggest that those who wear the uniform want change," said Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

And then from Aug '08

Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.
...
Obama has opposed the war in Iraq and says he would withdraw combat troops within 16 months. McCain has been a steadfast supporter of the war

We knew this had to be BS. There is no way the military actually prefered Obama, and surely not by 6-1. And now we have the proof.

I firmly believe the faux stories in Sept '07 and Aug '08 are a result of the fact that when one is contributing, one self-reports one's employer. Yes, I'm saying that I think Obama and Ron Paul supporters lied about the employers to make it seem as if more of the military supported their candidate than reality. Yes, even taking into account that not everyone who works for the Army, for example, is IN the Army.

But we'll never know because those that could do the investigating, won't. The media is too busy digging through Palin's past to see if she ever split an infinitive.

You'd think they'd be mad they were duped into giving a false impression.

210 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #191 NY Nana

You tell 'em, Nana!

211 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:10:02pm

From Greg Gutfeld at Fox News

So Obama thinks that FOX News has hurt him in the polls, saying that even if he watched us, he wouldn't vote for himself either.

Now, I don't think he's wrong. I actually think FOX News does go after him. But hell, someone has to.

For my whole life, every network has been uniformly, heart-bleedingly liberal. Nearly every damn magazine, newspaper and after-school special spits out the same lefty assumptions — rich people greedy, Republicans bad, America evil — as though they are suffering from a Marxist version of Tourette.

And Obama is their guy.

That's why today, every anchor has a woodie for him, and every star-struck pop singer offers the Messiah their services for free. And there's the late night comics, who hammer Republicans seven times more often than Dems. It's just too easy to be funny.

But despite all this, you still have twerps soiling their diapers over FOX News just because it won't comply with an overarching liberal theocracy. You've got celebrity cretins like Tim Robbins, watchdog weenies like Media Matters and crybaby cranks like Keith Olbermann suffering seizures because FOX won't roll over.

I say, stop being a bunch of pussies, you pretty much own the airwaves.

And as for you Obama, stop acting like a kid who complains because you got a 98 instead of a perfect grade. Seriously, you don't need mindless obedience from everyone to win.

So Obama, if you're expecting people here to kiss your ass, you'll need to go elsewhere. I hear there's a guy at MSNBC with a thrill up his leg dying to give you a sponge bath.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

212 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:10:31pm

Hope everyone is aware that Wretchard (Richard Fernandez has excellent threads on The Belmont Club, noting Colin Powell's possible motives for signing on to Obama. My take is that after he shafted the country over the Valerie Plame affair and allowed the conviction of an innocent man, Scooter Libby, to proceed, Powell forfeited the credibility and respect he had spent 40 years accumulating.

213 Syrah  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:10:41pm

re: #206 Who Watches the Watchmen?

"The era of cheap shots is finished."

They will still hit us with cheap shots.

If they want to be assholes, they can pay the price. It's up to them.

214 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:11:16pm

re: #206 Who Watches the Watchmen?

"The era of cheap shots is finished."

And it's about damn time. Just wish Mac would've figured this out a long time ago. We all knew it was coming.

215 fish  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:11:51pm

re: #119 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I know.

BO is such a whore.

I hope he loses....I'd love to see the crowd's reaction.

I dont care how the crowd reacts as long as he loses.

216 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:13:18pm

re: #207 odinga

Jesus was not a community organizer; but God is a Governor.

Jesus was not a lawyer, but God is a Judge.

217 BigJohn  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:13:28pm

re: #119 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I know.

BO is such a whore.

I hope he loses....I'd love to see the crowd's reaction.


It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

218 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:14:14pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

More like the Rodney King verdict.

219 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:14:23pm

BIDEN: "Gird Your Loins".

What a nutsac!

He is having another Ayerism.

220 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:14:54pm

re: #209 Silhouette

I know a lot of people in the military who liked Ron Paul, but it had absolutely nothing to do with his anti-war stance. The line between Obama and Paul is completely superficial. The unreported story is that Ron Paul ran a campaign on a staunch belief in the Constitution, which resonates with the rank and file in the military. The military probably doesn't like Barak Obama for the same reason they like Ron Paul (even if they don't like him as much as was reported).

221 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:12pm

re: #210 Sharmuta

You tell 'em, Nana!

Moi? Quiet, shy reserved moi? Surely you jest! ;)

222 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:37pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

You mean the Rodney King verdict.

223 Shug  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:40pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.


Like Detroit after any sports championship

224 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:52pm

re: #188 x-wing

The +11 I referred to was for PA alone... A +6 national with the fudge factor = President McCain.

/and Obama goes back to Chicago and pounds sand.

225 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:16:21pm

re: #195 jcm

Remember this point 4 years ago.

Kerry was a lock.

I looked up the results from 2004. Bush lost PA by less than 250,000. I think PA is going to be red. I think there are alot of PUMAs and bitter clingers and now Murtha constituents who are going to vote for McCain/Palin. (Of course, this is removing the ACORN factor. I'm not sure how bad voter fraud is there this year...)

226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:16:25pm

re: #223 Shug

Like Detroit after any sports championship

or a Raiders game

227 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:18:06pm

re: #212 lifeofthemind

Hope everyone is aware that Wretchard (Richard Fernandez has excellent threads on The Belmont Club, noting Colin Powell's possible motives for signing on to Obama. My take is that after he shafted the country over the Valerie Plame affair and allowed the conviction of an innocent man, Scooter Libby, to proceed, Powell forfeited the credibility and respect he had spent 40 years accumulating.

* * *
Not to mention General Powell blew the first Gulf War.

Powell let Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard Thugs escape to fight another day, instead of finishing the job when he had them where we wanted them, leaving Kuwait in a panic.

Powell stunk and wasted our hundreds of thousands of troops time twice, plus balked on Bosnia.

Powell's a waffler. Good riddance sir.

228 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:14pm

re: #225 PAgirlinNC

(Of course, this is removing the ACORN factor. I'm not sure how bad voter fraud is there this year...)

I'll bet in Philly it's pretty bad - in the 'burg, tho' my firends tell me people aren't paying attention to politics, so I don't know.

229 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:24pm
230 imtoast  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:30pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

That would be the Rodney King cop trial.

231 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:40pm

re: #154 Charles

Good for them. Serves 'em right.

232 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:42pm

re: #225 PAgirlinNC

I looked up the results from 2004. Bush lost PA by less than 250,000. I think PA is going to be red. I think there are alot of PUMAs and bitter clingers and now Murtha constituents who are going to vote for McCain/Palin. (Of course, this is removing the ACORN factor. I'm not sure how bad voter fraud is there this year...)

by crikey, let's hope so! :)

233 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:44pm

re: #223 Shug

Like Detroit after any sports championship

or a Raiders game

Hey Hey I'm a Raider fan. But a proud conservative, they can go together.

234 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:50pm

A few threads back, Zombie was teasing that he had a follow-up on the Ayers/Obama connection, but he declined to give details.

Did he ever share?

235 BigJohn  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:22pm

re: #218 JSK1121

re: #222 x-wing


Thanks. Yeah Rodney King.

236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:32pm

re: #227 alegrias

* * *
Not to mention General Powell blew the first Gulf War.

Powell let Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard Thugs escape to fight another day, instead of finishing the job when he had them where we wanted them, leaving Kuwait in a panic.

Powell stunk and wasted our hundreds of thousands of troops time twice, plus balked on Bosnia.

Powell's a waffler. Good riddance sir.

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.

237 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:48pm

re: #224 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The +11 I referred to was for PA alone... A +6 national with the fudge factor = President McCain.

/and Obama goes back to Chicago and pounds sand.

I screwed up. I posted my retraction. I had the Pa. Dem. primary poll and hit the Mac/Obama poll, and that was national.

I'm really feeling good about my state going Rep. this year. We can pull this out, voter fraud in Philly be damned.

238 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:54pm

re: #165 HoosierHoops

Took care of that odor when Maureen Dowd was left on the McCain tarmac. lololol, would've paid to see that.

239 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:59pm

re: #234 DeafDog

A few threads back, Zombie was teasing that he had a follow-up on the Ayers/Obama connection, but he declined to give details.
Did he ever share?

said not until tonight, or maybe tomorrow.

240 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:21:14pm

re: #236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.

And the shiites in the south. Not that they would have loved us anyway, but that was the nail in the cofffin.

241 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:21:24pm

re: #221 NY Nana

The msm will pay for what they've done. Thanks to people like you, they already are. Thanks, {Nana}.

242 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:21:56pm

re: #201 yma o hyd

What breed?
What colour?
What age?
Has he chewed any favourite shoes yet?
C'mon, spill the beans, lizards need to know!

Well as you all know after raising 5 kids with the youngest being 16 the house is to damn quiet..
He is a beautiful, brown long hair chihawa( sic )
His name is Winston and he follows the hoopster around where ever I go. Loves to play.. I'm teaching him basketball but his rebounding and shooting skills are lacking..But he hustles and chases loose balls..

243 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:13pm

re: #237 x-wing

You in PA?

I'd be foaming at the mouth to vote Mac if I was there... between Murtha and the bitter clingers BS, I couldn't get to the polls fast enough to ditch the Donks.

244 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:14pm

re: #234 DeafDog

A few threads back, Zombie was teasing that he had a follow-up on the Ayers/Obama connection, but he declined to give details.

Did he ever share?

He/she/it is working his/her/its socks off to finalise it - will be out tonight or tomorrow.

245 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:29pm

re: #239 Vergeltung

thanks

246 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:57pm

I'm actually surprised Powell never ran for President. I know what his wife said. But I went to hear him speak around '96, and what was not supposed to be a political event at all, and he sounded with every sentence as if he were running for office.

To put it in context, at the same event, Larry King and Elizabeth Dole never mentioned politics. One couldn't even tell King was left-leaning.

247 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:23:39pm

re: #235 BigJohn

re: #222 x-wing


Thanks. Yeah Rodney King.

I was in college at the time in LA County. When they made the announcement they were going to announce the verdict, my professor told us class dismissed and to make sure we stayed safe. My Dad got more than a few death threats during that time.

248 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:23:47pm

re: #205 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, you would have loved meeting the woman I met at our local GOTV meeting last night! PUMA extraordinaire! She's a grad student at Va Tech, a 30ish, anti-gun, pro-choice Clintonista working hard w/ a group of gun nuts and pro-lifers to defeat Obama.......and (hopefully) to bring back sanity to the Democrat party.
She had a rude awakening from the MSM's adulation of Obama. Now she's getting a rude awakening by finding out that the bitter and clingy are actually not monsters, but people "with more common sense than kneejerk ideology."
If Obama wins, she's says she is leaving the Dem party and will henceforth be an independent.

249 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:23:53pm

re: #236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.

* * *
YOu're right. Powell also similarly a waffler who together with his deputy at the State Department, Richard Armitage, outed Valerie Pflame and then took cover, letting Vice Pres. Dick Cheney and his assistant Scooter Libby take the rap for three years.

Powell will be much happier partying with Pflame and her dumb Joe the Ambassador Wilson, amongst the leftists, wafflers & fraggers of this Country.

250 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:24:15pm

Iowahawk

Sory if this is duplicate, but Iowahawk has his interpretation of Joe the Dumber

251 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:24:22pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some one at MoveOn thinks they're being clever again:

PSA: “Voting Republican even once can have disastrous effects that last for years.”

The conduct of Obama's people, obscene and vulgar when they see McCain supporters, shading into bullying and destructive, should give anyone enough reason to vote against their candidate. Tens of thousands have seen how Obama's people act, this video is of what they are at their best. From here it gets worse. Almost every story about poor conduct from McCain supporters turns out to be a false report peddled as hearsay and traceable back to Obama's supporters. There are apparently some cases of Moby type operations of Obama supporters showing up and screaming offensive slogans. McCain people look out for that and shut personal and innapropriate acts down. Here in NY I have been careful not to associate with a marcher who wants to bring their personal issue with Fidel in as the centerpiece of the campaign. We are not here to attack "The Left" and support "The Right." We are here to serve and protect America.

252 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:24:26pm

re: #233 janmar

re: #223 Shug

Like Detroit after any sports championship

or a Raiders game

Hey Hey I'm a Raider fan. But a proud conservative, they can go together.


Same here, we won this week so I'm happy.

253 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:25:45pm

re: #103 Ben Hur

Oil as a geopolitical tool used against civilization will be finished by

THE SUN

As soon as we get off our butts and really develop solar energy in all its forms.

That's a current image, within the last few hours.

254 exredtory  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:25:49pm

Actual A-4 cockpit: [Link: www.skyhawk.org...]

The computers would mostly have been "black boxes" among the aircraft systems. Still the point is made about Obama vs McCain "skill sets." But you try telling someone that despite his supposed stupidity and slackerness, GWB actually flew F-108s, a serious handful of airplane, you just get blank looks from the libs, so reminding them of what it takes to be a naval aviator will be lost of the sort of people who think "community organizers" are the backbone of the economy.

(I have a hunch now and again that perhaps one reason why GWB slacked off on his flight hours later with the TANG was that he had a pretty good notion about what sort of a "widowmaker' a supersonic delta could be and was becoming a little leery of the things, given how one would need plenty of air time to stay proficient on them.)

I've engaged in a various number of activities involving things that fly, float and roll cross-country over the years, and one thing I notice about so many political wonk and media types (with whom I work), and that is most of them *don't do anything.* - at least nothing practical. Basic household or automotive maintenance tasks seem beyond them, and even though most of them use cars, telephones and computers they have no insight whatsoever into how the things work.

The hire Joe the Plumber, but they aren't Joe the Plumber.

And Lloyd Marcus is the sort of Afro-American who makes liberals crazy.

255 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:04pm

Heh. Double Heh. I think the Heh's are off the scale with this one from Iowahawk:

Biden: Obama Ready for Armageddon Showdown He Will Provoke

256 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:10pm

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Well as you all know after raising 5 kids with the youngest being 16 the house is to damn quiet..
He is a beautiful, brown long hair chihawa( sic )
His name is Winston and he follows the hoopster around where ever I go. Loves to play.. I'm teaching him basketball but his rebounding and shooting skills are lacking..But he hustles and chases loose balls..

Aaahhhh!
Thank you!

Brown and long-haired is nice, to start with. Chihawa? Is that a cross breed? How big is Winston?
Keep teaching him - he'll improve his shooting skills, no doubt about it!

257 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:12pm

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

258 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:54pm

re: #255 lawhawk

Money quote:

A spokesman for the Obama-Biden campaign later clarified the Senator's remarks, and urged reporters "not to take Senator Biden's words out of context."
259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:22pm

re: #257 MandyManners

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

Of course they're associated. They're both from Alaska. Duh!

/

260 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:23pm

re: #186 midwestgak

This goes to his use of hands in a coordinated effort with the teleprompter. Also, his use of his hands to invade personal space, exemplified during the Joe the Plumber scenario. Very tricksy.

261 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:30pm

re: #251 lifeofthemind

Just think, the little darlings will be snitching on Mommy dearest if the Obama gets elected.

262 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:38pm

re: #257 MandyManners

they are still running scared of Sarah.

263 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:59pm

re: #248 wolfie

Sharmuta, you would have loved meeting the woman I met at our local GOTV meeting last night! PUMA extraordinaire! She's a grad student at Va Tech, a 30ish, anti-gun, pro-choice Clintonista working hard w/ a group of gun nuts and pro-lifers to defeat Obama.......and (hopefully) to bring back sanity to the Democrat party.
She had a rude awakening from the MSM's adulation of Obama. Now she's getting a rude awakening by finding out that the bitter and clingy are actually not monsters, but people "with more common sense than kneejerk ideology."
If Obama wins, she's says she is leaving the Dem party and will henceforth be an independent.

That's exactly what we want to have happen- for moderate democrats to realize we're not the monsters the press and hard left have painted us as, as well as having the democrats return to a party that will actually represent real American values. I think it would be good for both parties if the dems return to sanity.

Thanks for that story- it really brightened my morning.

264 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:28:15pm

re: #255 lawhawk

Heh. Double Heh. I think the Heh's are off the scale with this one from Iowahawk:

Biden: Obama Ready for Armageddon Showdown He Will Provoke

India is a possibility because they have sleeper cells in all the 7-11s

ZIING!

265 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:33pm

re: #263 Sharmuta

The Democratic party needs to be replaced, ever since they voted against the 13th amendment, along party lines, in 1865.

266 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:43pm

re: #229 Ojoe

And here is the cockpit: (his computer, if you like).

267 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:48pm

re: #236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.


Agree, between Powell and the U.N. we ended up fucked on that issue. To bad cause we destroyed their military and could've walked right in. I know hind sight is 20/20, but haven't we seen enough to know what may happen?
I hope the lessons of our latest adventure sticks in the minds of our leaders.

268 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:48pm

There are PUMAS, Pitt Panthers and Nittany Lions prowling all over PA with their claws out.

PA is going RED.

269 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:30:11pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course they're associated. They're both from Alaska. Duh!

/

re: #262 janmar

they are still running scared of Sarah.

I reckon it's their answer to BHO and Ayers. Weak as a kitten.

270 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:31:35pm

re: #266 joncelli

Thanks. My dad flew fighters (P-38). He said they took ALL your attention ALL the time. I cannot imagine the A4 would be different, and I think 0bama would crash one right away.

271 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:31:40pm

re: #255 lawhawk

Heh. Double Heh. I think the Heh's are off the scale with this one from Iowahawk:

Biden: Obama Ready for Armageddon Showdown He Will Provoke

SEATTLE -- Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden promised a group of supporters Sunday that running mate Barack Obama "will absolutely 100% trigger a nuclear Armageddon kinda thing" within the first 20 minutes of his presidency, but added that "Barack Obama is looking forward to this apocalyptic opportunity to test his mettle, because he totally aced his LSATs."

Now that is funny!

272 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:32:00pm

Wow. Lots of good people working for American Values. Inspirational to say the least.

273 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:32:24pm

re: #269 MandyManners


Yeah true and the shame of it is we have a tv here at work and some of the numb brained here buy anything cnn says as gospel.

274 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:33:55pm

re: #254 exredtory

GWB actually flew F-108s,

F-102, actually. But yes, a difficult aircraft.

275 Pyrocles  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:15pm

Pfft, according to the Wall Street Journal, Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the NFL. I wonder what would happen if we ever win a Super Bowl...

re: #252 x-wing

Same here, we won this week so I'm happy.

276 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:37pm

re: #243 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You in PA?

I'd be foaming at the mouth to vote Mac if I was there... between Murtha and the bitter clingers BS, I couldn't get to the polls fast enough to ditch the Donks.

AH, believe me, I'm counting the days and talking to anyone who will listen. I'm telling you, regular union members aint gonna vote for That One.

As for Murtha, I'll put money he will go down, from what I've been seeing and hearing.

/boo-yaa

277 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:50pm
278 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:52pm

re: #248 wolfie

Sharmuta, you would have loved meeting the woman I met at our local GOTV meeting last night! PUMA extraordinaire! She's a grad student at Va Tech, a 30ish, anti-gun, pro-choice Clintonista working hard w/ a group of gun nuts and pro-lifers to defeat Obama.......and (hopefully) to bring back sanity to the Democrat party.
She had a rude awakening from the MSM's adulation of Obama. Now she's getting a rude awakening by finding out that the bitter and clingy are actually not monsters, but people "with more common sense than kneejerk ideology."
If Obama wins, she's says she is leaving the Dem party and will henceforth be an independent.

I know that many Clinton supporters had their eyes opened when they found out what it was like to be on the short end of the media machine. They found out that the Republicans weren't paranoid - that 1) the media really did lie and spin for the candidate of their choice, refusing to cover stories that didn't support their agenda. And 2) the media really does attack and promote lies against the candidate not of their choice, even if it is subtle and deniable things like asking "Is Palin ready?" or "Was Palin really vetted?" over and over. Constantly posing the same question, if not out right suggesting and promoting one answer, at the very least makes the candidate "questionable."

279 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:35:32pm

re: #275 Pyrocles

you guys are supposed to be the biggest tailgaters. If that means anything.

280 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:35:56pm

re: #257 MandyManners

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

Sad, innit - all those reporters and thats all they've come up with, never mind that its been thoroughly thrashed already.

Must be horrible to be a full-blooded reporter and get to dig through the same old stuff, whereas all the juicy pieces are accumulating around B0 like gifts under a Christmas tree ... and you can't go there ...

281 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:13pm
282 mattm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:33pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

If it only covers cost, how come the better locations are more expensive?

racist

/sarc

283 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:34pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Bully! Let 'em walk...

JAFLW

284 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:40pm

re: #270 Ojoe

Thanks. My dad flew fighters (P-38). He said they took ALL your attention ALL the time. I cannot imagine the A4 would be different, and I think 0bama would crash one right away.

"Dammit, where is the 'present' button?"

285 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:51pm

re: #277 jorline

Round two...Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama


I agree with them....but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct. But, I agree with them......but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct.

Does not compute....does not compute.....warning will rogers!

286 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:15pm
287 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:19pm

re: #261 vagabond trader

Just think, the little darlings will be snitching on Mommy dearest if the Obama gets elected.

Even Stalin despised the little rat who turned in his parents. Obama will be government by the recycling nazis. While at Chicago long ago and far away I served briefly in the Student Government as a representative from the Social Sciences Graduate Division. I remember how hot they were for compulsory recycling. At the time I had a job in the University's Computer User Center where I locked up after 2 AM. A little old Polish woman came around just before closing to collect the trash. She would sort all the recyclables out and then carry her load, larger than she was, off safely. She was disposing of the trash and earning a few extra pennies with the cans and bottles she had retrieved. The students wanted to put this woman out of business by forcing everything into the channel of the prefered official recycling center, which they would then subsidize. That and their refusal to collect attendance statistics for left wing events they subsidized were my main reasons for quitting.

288 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:31pm

Obama is an international crisis.

289 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:33pm

re: #284 Silhouette

He would probably use the "not present" button.

(ejection seat lever).

BBL

290 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:39:09pm

re: #276 x-wing

That Colonel running against Murtha looks like a stud... Hope he wins.

291 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:39:37pm

re: #275 Pyrocles

Pfft, according to the Wall Street Journal, Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the NFL. I wonder what would happen if we ever win a Super Bowl...

I hate to say this,coming from Pa. and all, but Eagle fans are the worst. The WSJ needs to stick what they know about.

292 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:39:41pm

re: #277 jorline

Round two...Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama

She doesn't say.... What an incredible, ringing endorsement.

293 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:40:28pm

re: #290 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That Colonel running against Murtha looks like a stud... Hope he wins.

Heard him on the radio last night with Steve Malzberg here in NYC... Sounded like a very impressive man... I hope he beats the hell out of Murtha...

294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:40:42pm

re: #285 DeafDog

I agree with them....but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct. But, I agree with them......but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct.

Does not compute....does not compute.....warning will rogers!

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day

295 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:11pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

She doesn't say.... What an incredible, ringing endorsement.

Well, ya know, because they are testing us right now... LOL

296 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:21pm

re: #293 tfc3rid

Heard him on the radio last night with Steve Malzberg here in NYC... Sounded like a very impressive man... I hope he beats the hell out of Murtha...

Not much chance of that, unfortunately. It's a safe seat.

297 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:36pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

She doesn't say.... What an incredible, ringing endorsement.

* * *
Like McCain said about Madeleine Albright, she klinked glasses with Kim Il JOng or Kim Jong IL, and laughed watching North Korean kids dance, while millions lie about in North Korean gulags.

298 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:37pm

I got a laugh out of this: Tell Me What You See.

299 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:58pm

re: #254 exredtory

(I have a hunch now and again that perhaps one reason why GWB slacked off on his flight hours later with the TANG was that he had a pretty good notion about what sort of a "widowmaker' a supersonic delta could be and was becoming a little leery of the things, given how one would need plenty of air time to stay proficient on them.)

One explanation that I heard is that returning Vietnam veteran pilots were soaking up all the available flying hours to retain their flight status. And pushing NG pilots to the bottom of the list for flight time.

Also, GWB's aircraft was the F-102 and IIRC, one third of the F-102's built were lost to crashes.

300 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:10pm

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

One more reason to vote McCain/Palin 08!

301 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:14pm

re: #289 Ojoe

He would probably use the "not present" button.

(ejection seat lever).

BBL

Which is what you hit so you don't tie the world record for low altitude flight.

302 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:16pm

re: #277 jorline

Round two...Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

303 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:29pm

re: #291 x-wing

I hate to say this,coming from Pa. and all, but Eagle fans are the worst. The WSJ needs to stick what they know about.

It's not known as Philthadelphia for nothing.

304 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:31pm

Albright Agrees with Biden

She is trying to spin this major gaffe by Biden but it is just drawing more attention to the issue.

DAMAGE CONTROL IN PROGRESS.
DEMS IN PANIC MODE.
MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS.

305 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:54pm

re: #298 UFO TOFU

I got a laugh out of this: Tell Me What You See.

Two-legged sea horses kissing.

306 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:08pm

re: #273 janmar

Yeah true and the shame of it is we have a tv here at work and some of the numb brained here buy anything cnn says as gospel.

Any way to block that channel with the remote?

307 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:11pm

re: #303 Ackomanyuki
or the city of brotherly shove

308 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:47pm

re: #297 alegrias

This is the woman who ran after arafat. 0bama can have her endorsement!

309 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:48pm

re: #307 janmar

or the city of brotherly shove

tru dat!

310 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:52pm

re: #302 MandyManners

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

LMAO...good afternoon, Mandy.

311 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:44:30pm

re: #298 UFO TOFU

Death Crab 3000! Run!

312 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:44:40pm

re: #83 tfc3rid

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?

Aww C'mon; everyone had their chance with Alan Keyes back in 1995. ;-)>

313 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:44:54pm

re: #290 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That Colonel running against Murtha looks like a stud... Hope he wins.


OH yeah, he's out fund raising him and ahead in the polls. We'll add Ex-Represenative to Murthas' Ex-Marine status.

/I loathe that guy.

314 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:45:23pm

re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day

Only if you happen to look at them right then and there?

315 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:45:41pm

re: #280 yma o hyd

Sad, innit - all those reporters and thats all they've come up with, never mind that its been thoroughly thrashed already.

Must be horrible to be a full-blooded reporter and get to dig through the same old stuff, whereas all the juicy pieces are accumulating around B0 like gifts under a Christmas tree ... and you can't go there ...

The talking head made a to-do about the reporter having to go all the way to Alaska to get the interview. As if CNN never went there initially to try to dig some shit up on her.

316 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:16pm

re: #310 jorline

Well, I didn't say "piss".

317 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:33pm

re: #248 wolfie

Wolfie, are you in the Blacksburg area? I have tons of cousins on my mom's side in Roanoke/Salem/Radford. Such beautiful country.

318 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:34pm

re: #298 UFO TOFU

I got a laugh out of this: Tell Me What You See.

One of the bug ships from the old video game Galaga

319 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:37pm

re: #296 joncelli

Not much chance of that, unfortunately. It's a safe seat.

We'll see.

320 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:45pm

re: #304 odinga

Albright Agrees with Biden

She is trying to spin this major gaffe by Biden but it is just drawing more attention to the issue.

DAMAGE CONTROL IN PROGRESS.
DEMS IN PANIC MODE.
MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS.

Albright is pulling an Ifill, just plugging her own book. What a ho.

321 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:03pm

re: #299 Son of the Black Dog
Thus the nic name "Dirt Dart"
Very Difficult aircraft to fly!

322 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:23pm

re: #300 jorline

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

One more reason to vote McCain/Palin 08!

Are they as disloyal to their country as are Americans who ask for the approval of foriegners before selecting a President? Can't recall anyone from Germany or France asking who I wanted to run their country.

323 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:26pm

re: #316 MandyManners

Well, I didn't say "piss".

Language warning...
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...
...
...
...
Only because when you rip their head off, you shit down their throat.

324 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:44pm

re: #302 MandyManners

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

Assuming they escape Fred Thompson to get to McCain. Look out, World. Fred's out there, he's pissed. and he wants a piece of you.

325 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:47pm

re: #300 jorline

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

One more reason to vote McCain/Palin 08!

Had a look at their map - interestingly, Mexico and the other Middle American states don't seem quite that keen on a B0 presidency, neither is Turkey, and the Indians are soo not for B0!

(And as Kiwi I'd be mightily pi$$ed off that my country was not represented in that poll, but the Aussies were!)

326 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:49pm

Maddie Albright ran after arafat! If that's the kind of endorsement 0bama wants- he can have it.

327 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:48:05pm

re: #304 odinga

Albright Agrees with Biden

She is trying to spin this major gaffe by Biden but it is just drawing more attention to the issue.

DAMAGE CONTROL IN PROGRESS.
DEMS IN PANIC MODE.
MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS.

That "fart" sound you hear is air escaping from the Obama Balloon.

/Hard to resist the urge to mention Bambi running off to Hawaii to hide at this moment... but I was the one suggesting that it was uncool to ascribe nefarious reasons to the sick grandma trip... but it's hard.

328 tedzilla99  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:48:09pm

I know where I'll be on Oct 26 - love this!

329 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:48:40pm

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

does this mean you have a new picture gallery up?

330 winston06  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:49:52pm

great photos

331 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:02pm

re: #302 MandyManners

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

Especially not when they know that a certain Mr Bolton is hovering in the background ...

332 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:17pm

re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day


But two broken clocks? It's mind-numbing

333 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:22pm

So long, suckers. Millionaire hedge fund boss thanks 'idiot' traders and retires at 37

The boss of a successful US hedge fund has quit the industry with an extraordinary farewell letter dismissing his rivals as over-privileged "idiots" and thanking "stupid" traders for making him rich.

Andrew Lahde's $80m Los Angeles-based firm Lahde Capital Management in Los Angeles made a huge return last year by betting against subprime mortgages.

Yesterday the 37-year-old told his clients that he had hated the business and had only been in it for the money. And after declaring he would no longer manage money for other people, because he had enough of his own, Lahde said that instead he intended to repair his stress-damaged health; he made it clear he would not miss the financial world.

"The low-hanging fruit, ie idiots whose parents paid for prep school, Yale and then the Harvard MBA, was there for the taking," he wrote. "These people who were (often) truly not worthy of the education they received (or supposedly received) rose to the top of companies such as AIG, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers and all levels of our government," he said.

"All of this behaviour supporting the aristocracy only ended up making it easier for me to find people stupid enough to take the other side of my trades. God bless America."

My hats off to him. I got more respect for him than those sleazeballs who laughed their way to the bank then asked for a bailout.

334 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:25pm

re: #303 Ackomanyuki

It's not known as Philthadelphia for nothing.

LOL, so true. They are an angry bunch, and so sensitive.

335 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:44pm

re: #312 Outrider

Aww C'mon; everyone had their chance with Alan Keyes back in 1995. ;-)>

Oh yeah...and 2000. ;-)>

336 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:57pm

re: #318 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, that brings back memories.

337 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:03pm

re: #308 Sharmuta

This is the woman who ran after arafat. 0bama can have her endorsement!

* * *
Hezbollah already gave their endorsement!

338 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:11pm
339 GeeWiz  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:28pm

re: #262 janmar

they are still running scared of Sarah.

Sarah is just what they claim to be, but her presence exposes their lack of a genuine grasp of what the middle class is all about. Sarah Palin is the real deal and has shown that the emperor has no clothes. The Washington elite cannot allow a "newbie" from the hinterlands of Alaska to un-mask them so they proceed to eviscerate her. I applaud her, not because she has a "R" after her name but, because she is genuine and speaks to "real" values. Go Sarah!

340 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:38pm

Sad news today. The King of Blaxploitation, The Godfather of Rap, Rudy Ray Moore, has passed away at age 81. The world is a little less funky today.

341 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:52:47pm

re: #334 x-wing

LOL, so true. They are an angry bunch, and so sensitive.

F*ck you & the car you drive!
/

342 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:52:55pm

re: #333 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What kind of dummy paints a target bull's-eye on himself with a Marxist wealth redistributor running for POTUS?

343 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:52:59pm

re: #312 Outrider

Aww C'mon; everyone had their chance with Alan Keyes back in 1995. ;-)>

* * *
And Mr. Keyes ran in 2000, and believe it or not, this year also.

Remember Mr. Keyes had a tv show on Fox, "Alan Keyes is Making Sense"? He did give a great speech/sermon, and never sold himself as the ONE!

344 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:53:43pm

re: #315 MandyManners

The talking head made a to-do about the reporter having to go all the way to Alaska to get the interview. As if CNN never went there initially to try to dig some shit up on her.

Ooohh!
Someone had to go there again?
Aww ... diddums!

Pity she didn't run into some hungry Grizzlies or a nice wolf pack on a moose hunt.

345 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:53:45pm

Pew!

This one really stinks!

346 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:53:50pm

re: #320 odinga

Albright is pulling an Ifill, just plugging her own book. What a ho.

* * *
Ahem, that's Madame Secretary to you.

347 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:54:04pm

re: #313 x-wing

OH yeah, he's out fund raising him and ahead in the polls. We'll add Ex-Represenative to Murthas' Ex-Marine status.

/I loathe that guy.

Funny how we all got to hear about McCain's pretty much non-existent ties to the Keating 5 thanks to 0bama's mouthpieces at CNN and the New York Times, but the MSM is strangely mum on Murtha's role in Abscam.

348 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:54:08pm
349 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:55:16pm

re: #348 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]

ya, msm hacks, Al Gore, Obama skunks,

wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttthhhhhhhhhs sssssss up with the snow?

Maybe the ancestors of your Arapaho cousins smile upon your cause.

350 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:55:28pm

re: #321 reloadingisnotahobby

Thus the nic name "Dirt Dart"
Very Difficult aircraft to fly!

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

351 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:55:35pm

Later folks

352 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:19pm

re: #342 OldLineTexan

What kind of dummy paints a target bull's-eye on himself with a Marxist wealth redistributor running for POTUS?

One who is moving out of the country? I do have to revise my intial appraisal though, the guy thinks Soros has good ideas for the country, so he's just a ballsy asshole.

353 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:20pm

re: #323 OldLineTexan

Ewwwwwwwwww.

354 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:32pm

hi all,, just got to work after going to see Sarah Palin at the reno convention center,, about 3000 people were there, i took a pic of my pit bull put pink lipstick on her, stuck in on the backof a MCCain/Palin sign and wrote pit bull for palin on it and SARAH saw it and said "oh how cute, thank you so much" then she grabbed it and autographed it,, so cool!

she is totally awesome! what a wonderful example of real America, Lee Greenwood was ther and sang two songs, Sarah's daughter Piper was also there,, when the crowd starting chanting USA Sarah chanted right along with us,, it was a GREAT morning!

355 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:37pm

re: #350 Son of the Black Dog

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

Word! Dog.........

356 poopeedoo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:54pm

Worth reposting from a semi-dead thread.

Beautiful, gracious, smart, feminine women who love their husbands, family and God drive the lefties NUTS! It causes their heads to spin around and spew split pea soup.

357 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:56pm

re: #350 Son of the Black Dog

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

And there it is. The US Military doesn't give the "keys" to multimillion dollar planes out based on your parentage.

358 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:58pm

re: #343 alegrias

* * *
And Mr. Keyes ran in 2000, and believe it or not, this year also.

Remember Mr. Keyes had a tv show on Fox, "Alan Keyes is Making Sense"? He did give a great speech/sermon, and never sold himself as the ONE!

He is a very practical man. I have agreed with almost all his views and Lord knows he certainly has much more experience than anyone currently running. His only flaw, and it is a deal breaker for most is his hard and fast rules regarding separation of Church and State. He believes the constitution is misinterpreted on that aspect. But all his other positions are straight conservative values all down the line.

359 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:03pm

re: #324 Pullus Iulius

Assuming they escape Fred Thompson to get to McCain. Look out, World. Fred's out there, he's pissed. and he wants a piece of you.

I'd hate to get an ass-chewing from him. He could make a person feel one centimeter tall.

360 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:23pm
361 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:26pm

re: #353 MandyManners

Ewwwwwwwwww.

I know, but that is the traditional form of the threat!

362 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:36pm

Dear HillBuzz,

> I wanted to pass along something heard Saturday at a community event.
>
> As most of you may know, Zogby International is headquartered in our neck
> of the woods in Utica. I happened to chat with a couple of people who
> work for Zogby and were quite emphatic about the recent 2-3 point Obama
> edge. They said, did not imply, that it’s even closer. The reason?
> Zobgy contractually is required to poll more Democrats than Republicans.
> The folks who passed along this intel are strong supporters of
> McCain-Palin working for the very big Democrat John Zogby. They stressed
> that the Zogby lunch table buzz is that this is a dead heat and right now
> is the time that McCain can win the election.
>
> The “spread the wealth” comment is resonating. I had some women together
> this weekend to make calls, write LTEs and make hand made signs and people
> are really energized. We CAN do this!

363 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:00pm

re: #331 yma o hyd

Especially not when they know that a certain Mr Bolton is hovering in the background ...

He'd strangle them with his mighty mustache.

364 SummerSong  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:09pm

Biden live on Fox News-

blah, blah, blah.

365 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:16pm

re: #350 Son of the Black Dog

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

* * * *

And John Kerry frags his former best friend John McCain by saying McCain uses Depends.

Too bad McCain can't wrestle Kerry anymore & show him a knuckle-sandwich--what his Navy Swiftboatmates thought Kerry deserved.

366 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:23pm

re: #354 bcgirl

I am jealous.

367 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:46pm

re: #341 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

F*ck you & the car you drive!
/

I really love you guys, just don't want to sit in the same stadium ;>}

//

368 RedHouseBlueState  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:59:17pm

"Obama can't land a jet on an aircraft carrier at night."

Excellent come back! A hardy round of applause!

369 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:59:42pm
370 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:00:24pm

re: #368 RedHouseBlueState

"Obama can't land a jet on an aircraft carrier at night."

Excellent come back! A hardy round of applause!

Racist

371 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:00:27pm

re: #369 taxfreekiller

what Lt. for life Kerry deserved.

Did kerry retire as a Lt.?

372 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:00:56pm

re: #363 MandyManners

He'd strangle them with his mighty mustache.

He has an impressive 'stache. (Spoken from one who firmly believes all men should have facial hair) ;-)>

373 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:01:30pm

re: #344 yma o hyd

Ooohh!
Someone had to go there again?
Aww ... diddums!

Pity she didn't run into some hungry Grizzlies or a nice wolf pack on a moose hunt.

I was reading a great article in the NYT last week about a funny fraternity in California that is dedicated to finding and putting plaques on Gold Rush buildings/places. Their drink is Moose Juice: bourbon and rum and heavy cream.

374 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:02:06pm

re: #241 Sharmuta

Sharm,

I am still angry. Up is down, left is right (no pun intended)....I honestly do not remember seeing our country so divided in my life. Possibly re both the Viet Nam and Iraq/Afghanistan wars, all 3 fought out of necessity, but that was not political, yet inevitably became highly politicized, and the vile anti-war movements who's members Hussein so idolizes.

I fear something akin to a very uncivil war when, pray G-d, McCain wins. His blind worshippers will not accept it, and it may very well cause the National Guard to be mobilized in far too many powder keg Hussein indoctrination camps.

Is it just me, or is this the loooooongest election anyone can recall? And also the most hate-filled on the part of the left?

If the worst happens? We will have to accept it, but start planning how to get rid of him by impeachment, but violence, for Republicans, is not even thinkable. I still cannot begin to fathom how on earth the Manchurian candidate managed to win the Demonrat nomination..I cannot abide Shrillary, and still would be sickened over it if she had won. They offered a Hobson's Choice, and should pay the price.

375 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:02:32pm

i am just so lucky

re: #366 OldLineTexan

I am jealous.

376 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:02:49pm

re: #358 Outrider

He is a very practical man. I have agreed with almost all his views and Lord knows he certainly has much more experience than anyone currently running. His only flaw, and it is a deal breaker for most is his hard and fast rules regarding separation of Church and State. He believes the constitution is misinterpreted on that aspect. But all his other positions are straight conservative values all down the line.

* * *

Too bad he is so fringe-y. Alan Keyes was William Kristol's roommate at Harvard or Princeton or wherever that editor of the Weekly Standard went to school.

377 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:03:09pm

re: #347 Fenway_Nation

Funny how we all got to hear about McCain's pretty much non-existent ties to the Keating 5 thanks to 0bama's mouthpieces at CNN and the New York Times, but the MSM is strangely mum on Murtha's role in Abscam.

Aint, I watched that video. Murtha is scum. I couldn't get over what he said.

Murtha(ad-libbing)- We'll talk about that 50 grand later.

378 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:40pm

re: #367 x-wing

I really love you guys, just don't want to sit in the same stadium ;>}

//

Well I don't blame you for that. I scared a few Chiefs fans when the Eagles played in KC a few years ago. Apparently, not all NFL franchises think that their stadiums need to have their own jails & courtroom built-in.

379 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:44pm

re: #373 MandyManners

I was reading a great article in the NYT last week about a funny fraternity in California that is dedicated to finding and putting plaques on Gold Rush buildings/places. Their drink is Moose Juice: bourbon and rum and heavy cream.

That drink - omigawd, I'm getting a hangover just reaing what it consists of!

380 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:45pm

re: #371 Nevergiveup

Did kerry retire as a Lt.?

I think Kerry was Branded after his Vietnam Senate hearings.

381 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:54pm

re: #316 MandyManners

Well, I didn't say "piss".

Yes, you did! ;) And there is proof right up there.

382 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:05:20pm

re: #354 bcgirl

hi all,, just got to work after going to see Sarah Palin at the reno convention center,, about 3000 people were there, i took a pic of my pit bull put pink lipstick on her, stuck in on the backof a MCCain/Palin sign and wrote pit bull for palin on it and SARAH saw it and said "oh how cute, thank you so much" then she grabbed it and autographed it,, so cool!

she is totally awesome! what a wonderful example of real America, Lee Greenwood was ther and sang two songs, Sarah's daughter Piper was also there,, when the crowd starting chanting USA Sarah chanted right along with us,, it was a GREAT morning!

You are a lucky gal! I seriously considered driving 5 hours each way to see her, but unfortunately, I have to make a living.

383 Teacake![deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:05:21pm
384 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:05:54pm

re: #381 NY Nana

Yes, you did! ;) And there is proof right up there.

I'm caught!

385 alegrias[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:06:32pm
386 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:06:34pm

re: #362 Sharmuta

Dear HillBuzz,


> I wanted to pass along something heard Saturday at a community event.
>
> As most of you may know, Zogby International is headquartered in our neck
> of the woods in Utica. I happened to chat with a couple of people who
> work for Zogby and were quite emphatic about the recent 2-3 point Obama
> edge. They said, did not imply, that it’s even closer. The reason?
> Zobgy contractually is required to poll more Democrats than Republicans.
> The folks who passed along this intel are strong supporters of
> McCain-Palin working for the very big Democrat John Zogby. They stressed
> that the Zogby lunch table buzz is that this is a dead heat and right now
> is the time that McCain can win the election.
>
> The “spread the wealth” comment is resonating. I had some women together
> this weekend to make calls, write LTEs and make hand made signs and people
> are really energized. We CAN do this!


Very interesting, Shar. Makes me wonder about the other polls taken as well, and how they might be skewed.

I read this comment on Hillbuzz in the article that struck me as interesting,

Karen Says:
October 21, 2008 at 10:47 am
I am part of the Zogby polling group here in Illinois. I would be in the group designated as a Democrat. I put Hillary as my Presidential choice until she dropped out and then chose undecided. The last poll that Zogby sent me I switched to McCain. For the first time in years of participating in polling for them, I received a call from Zogby wanting to verify my vote in that poll. I found that really interesting. Not sure what it means. I secretly was hoping maybe Obama was dropping in the polls here in Illinois but probably not.

They call the same people over and over again?

387 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:06:38pm
388 Dave the.....  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:07:33pm
Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

Zombie, not sure what is up, but recall how Kerry's book from circa 1974 suddenly dissappeared in 2004? It seems there were those out there who didn't want that in the public.

389 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:08:18pm

re: #385 alegrias

Charles has said to knock this off (recently). It's not relevant now.

Exactly, it's a bunch of BS. The reason I suspect BHO doesn't want his birth certificate out has to do with his father's ethnicity on the certificate. Absolutely nothing do to with his citizenship status.

390 poopeedoo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:12pm

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

If you don't like the ideas of others, head to the streets with your own idea. Don't sit back and wait for them to get back to you.

391 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:14pm
392 Dave the.....  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:23pm
According to the first article, obama is still an Indonesian citizen, so why isn't this an issue?

Honestly, the general public really doesn't care. I think it's a non-issue with 14 days to go.

Those 4% of voters who will decide this election are concerned with national security and economic issues. Little else.

393 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:24pm

re: #371 Nevergiveup

Did kerry retire as a Lt.?

No, he ETS'd as a Lt.

/still like to know what was on his original Discharge, and why Jimmah issued him another one.

394 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:33pm

re: #275 Pyrocles

Pfft, according to the Wall Street Journal, Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the NFL. I wonder what would happen if we ever win a Super Bowl...


What does the Wall Street Journal know? When Brown fans attend here they are by far the worst behaved fans I have ever encountered..period..amen..end of story..
/ Do you hear that? Some Cleveland lizards' heads just exploded.

395 nigella  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:10:19pm

Deaf dog, you ain't kidding on that one. Don't know how they weighted their poll, but it stunk! I do believe McCain is behind, but not by that much! And Sarah Palin is a drag on the ticket with huge unfavorables? Tell that to the 22,000 that saw her in Colorado.

396 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:11:46pm

Gotta go, Lizards, seeya tomottow, and KBO!

397 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:11:53pm

re: #378 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well I don't blame you for that. I scared a few Chiefs fans when the Eagles played in KC a few years ago. Apparently, not all NFL franchises think that their stadiums need to have their own jails & courtroom built-in.

You're creating jobs, how entrepenurial(sp) of you.

/

398 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:11:55pm

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

Drill here. Drill now. Tell the bearded freak to f*ck himself.

Oh, and this (a minor correction to the Fox News piece):

Venezuela's capitalism-bashing Chavez has used his country's oil windfall to buy Russian weapons, going as far as to let the Russian navy practice in its waters. Russia reportedly is also helping Venezuela develop nuclear power.

Chavez said on Saturday that oil at $80 to $90 a barrel would be good enough to keep Venezuela going, Reuters reported, but analysts say the country Chavez has billions stashed away in Swiss bank accounts and will be able to withstand a price drop.

399 sharp_discernment  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:12pm

Another liberal rant in the name of comedy....
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

400 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:15pm

Well, at least some headway being made (From Milwaukee Journal Sentinel):

Double voter sentenced to 9 months

Ronald Hoppus, who pleaded no contest to voting twice in the November 2007 election, has been sentenced to serve nine months in the House of Correction.

Hoppus, 50, of the 2800 block of S. 71st St., was convicted in July of a single felony count of election fraud. He won't be able to vote in this year's election.

Hoppus, who will have work release privileges during his term, was sentenced Friday by Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Thomas Donegan.

401 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:21pm

re: #376 alegrias

* * *

Too bad he is so fringe-y. Alan Keyes was William Kristol's roommate at Harvard or Princeton or wherever that editor of the Weekly Standard went to school.

Mainstream he is not. To bad he can;t moderate his position on religion.

402 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:38pm

Amazing New Audio Surfaces... Ayers Says Everyone In His Office Knew He Was Terrorist-Marxist

Plus see the new video [on the same page], Bill Ayers says in 2002 that everyone he worked with knew he was a radical Marxist- that he didn't hide anything:

Also, from the video you can tell that the former underground terrorist is still a raging anti-Semitic radical and completely nuts.

403 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:53pm
404 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:13:10pm

re: #395 nigella

Lets hope this is more the way it is.

405 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:13:17pm

re: #386 Honorary Yooper

They call the same people over and over again?

Years ago, I had a friend who worked for the local paper's polling division, and yes- they call the same people over and over again. Random Sample My Ass.

406 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:13:39pm

re: #404 janmar


[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

lets try that again.

407 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:14:34pm

re: #317 doppelganglander

Wolfie, are you in the Blacksburg area? I have tons of cousins on my mom's side in Roanoke/Salem/Radford. Such beautiful country.

Yes, I am and yes, it is! :)

408 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:14:38pm

re: #400 Creeping Eruption

Gee, I wonder what party he voted for twice.

409 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:14:54pm

re: #393 x-wing

No, he ETS'd as a Lt.

/still like to know what was on his original Discharge, and why Jimmah issued him another one.

"Negotiating" on his own with North Vietnam in Paris while still a reservist got him a "dishonorable", that much is a certainty.

410 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:15:28pm

re: #296 joncelli

You must be: Not a racist, and