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The Stop Obama Tour in Colorado

Images | Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:56:41 am PDT

El Marco has a new photo essay on The Stop Obama Tour.

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1 jeremy0114  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:57:19am

There is my girl again... Gotta love Sarah!

2 Peacekeeper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:02am

Good luck with that.

3 pat  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:07am

Palin has enough energy for two.

4 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:15am
5 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:00:37am

If she hits him with the bus it will work for sure.
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For her safety, I hope that bus is armor plated.

6 red satellite  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:00:54am

Live from Colorado....it's not Saturday Night!

7 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:08am

Where I am, leftist lawyers are planning "ELECTION PROTECTION Leadership Training" and encouraging people to volunteer out of concern for their "civil rights".

Lizards, less than two weeks remain to exercise your self-interest and that of your family.

Please do something!

8 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:18am

Lloyd Marcus should write a book:

Marcus’ drift toward the right of the political spectrum began when he was about 10 years old. His parents moved with their five children into a brand-new, high-rise apartment building in the Baltimore projects. Then came their neighbors. Most of them were on various types of governmental assistance. Many were drug addicts, alcoholics and criminals. They destroyed the apartment building.”Within one year, it was ruined,” Marcus said. “It taught me a lot about liberalism. If you don’t work for something, you don’t care about it. People blame the white man. It wasn’t the white man in the halls raping people.”

This is exactly the type of story that should be promoted by the right because he's spot on.

9 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:36am

Thank God for these people. People who are self-made and work for what they believe in are the complete antithesis of the self-loathing, lazy, incompetent whiners who campaign for Obama.

10 Odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:02:28am

One Picture is worth a thousand words. Oblama Computer vs McCaine Computer

11 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:03:11am

There is no way Obama wins this. Once all the illegal registration forms are out of the equation, the media as much as they try, wont be able to hide it.
They say Obamas bounce is because of the economy, but I have a feeling it's because of all of the last minute voter regs. being turned in.

12 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:29am

Too bad they're just going to be in Crystal Lake today. Might've been fun to see them in the SW 'burbs.

13 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:48am

LOVE the shot of the bus with the rainbow over it. Great job, El Marco.

14 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:55am

Surprised it still has its wheels.

15 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:05:35am

I love this quote from Lloyd Marcus:

“We should stop calling it ‘conservativism’ and just call it what it is: ‘common sense’ “.

Only problem is, conservatism is, in many ways, more "nuanced" and complex than liberalism. Conservatism recognizes that the best way to get from point A to point B is not always in a straight line. Conservatism recognizes that it's better to have a less than perfectly efficient system that supports freedom, than an efficient system that destroys it. This is no longer clear to large numbers of people.

16 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:05:52am

re: #11 x-wing

There is no way Obama wins this. Once all the illegal registration forms are out of the equation, the media as much as they try, wont be able to hide it.
They say Obamas bounce is because of the economy, but I have a feeling it's because of all of the last minute voter regs. being turned in.

I don't know if i agree or even exactly understand your logic, but i certainly hope your conclusion is correct!

17 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:05am

re: #14 bosforus

Surprised it still has its wheels.

That was a bus? With wheels?

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18 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:06am

re: #11 x-wing

I'm concerned about the illegal ballots already in the system in Ohio. This morning Fox was reporting that the latest legal challenge would not be resolved for 3-6 months.

19 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:15am

re: #8 Sharmuta

This is exactly the type of story that should be promoted by the right because he's spot on.

Saw enough of it from classmates as I was growing up. The "Great Society" wasn't so great, and it destroyed a society.

20 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:06:54am

re: #7 alegrias

Where I am, leftist lawyers are planning "ELECTION PROTECTION Leadership Training" and encouraging people to volunteer out of concern for their "civil rights".

Lizards, less than two weeks remain to exercise your self-interest and that of your family.

Please do something!

Where are you?

21 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:07:07am

re: #10 Odinga

One Picture is worth a thousand words. Oblama Computer vs McCaine Computer

HAHAHAHA

That is the best. Absolutely the best.

22 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:07:59am

i'm sure this may already been posted...[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

thank goodness the military is full of very smart people!

23 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:08:55am

re: #10 Odinga

One Picture is worth a thousand words. Oblama Computer vs McCaine Computer

Actually McCain's real computer is strewn all over North Vietnam.

24 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:09:22am

Ugh, even Gallup's traditional model is trending the wrong way. More Palin buses, please.

25 opnion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:09:37am

I hope that this bus has bullit proof windows.
There is derangement in the land.

26 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:10:03am

re: #23 Nevergiveup

Actually McCain's real computer is strewn all over North Vietnam.

It's what the professionals call a computer crash.

27 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #26 HoosierHoops

It's what the professionals call a computer crash.

Well, since it was pre-Microsoft, it didn't have a blue screen when it froze up.

28 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:52am

re: #24 cliffster

Ugh, even Gallup's traditional model is trending the wrong way. More Palin buses, please.

I hope the McCain campaign is saving the best ads for a media blitz these last 2 weeks. I think we still have lots of people waking up and saying, "Duh, there's a Presidential election coming up? Hmm, guess I'll vote for that well-dressed and well-spoken young fellow, Brick O'Manna or whatever his name is ..."

29 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:01am

re: #18 jaunte

I'm concerned about the illegal ballots already in the system in Ohio. This morning Fox was reporting that the latest legal challenge would not be resolved for 3-6 months.

Me too. I heard that. It's un-real, I can't beleive they can't shut this early voting down. Or at least hold the ones that are problematic.

30 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:28am

re: #18 jaunte

I'm concerned about the illegal ballots already in the system in Ohio. This morning Fox was reporting that the latest legal challenge would not be resolved for 3-6 months.

Suppose it was proven that the Secretary of State acted in bad faith, knowingly accepting fraudulent registrations and votes, and that those votes threw the election to Obama. Suppose further that Obama knew about it and was complicit in the fraud (we already know about his ties to ACORN). Could legal action be taken to overturn the results of the election?

I hope this scenario would never happen, and I recognize the harm it would do to the electoral system. I'm just wondering if it's possible.

31 Sizzlack  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:52am

Apologies if this has been posted before but I just received it and quite enjoyed it...

Our Tax System Explained: Bar Stool Economics

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten
comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would
go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.
The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the
arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are
all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your
daily beer by $20.' Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.
The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the
first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they
divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that
from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end
up being paid to drink his beer.
So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill
by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each
should pay.

And so:
The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now pay $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to
drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare
their savings.
'I only got a dollar out of the $20,'declared the sixth man. He pointed to
the tenth man,' but he got $10!'
'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar, too.

It's unfair that he got ten times more than I got' 'That's true!' shouted
the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The
wealthy get all the breaks!'
'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'
The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks so the nine sat down
and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they
discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all
of them for even half of the bill!
And that, ladies and gentlemen, journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most
benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being
wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start
drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics
University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

32 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:14:11am

Great Obama political cartoon.

33 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:14:50am

re: #30 doppelganglander

I'm hoping that it doesn't have to come to that. If the right side can mobilize everyone possible, McCain will squeak in.

34 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:14am

CNN reported yesterday incorrectly that the McCain Camp is ceding Colorado to Barat Obama.

CNN published this bogus report as VP Candidate Sarah Palin was setting all-time attendance records in Grand Junction just yesterday.

22,000 supporters [in a tiny town] showed up to see Governor Sarah Palin break a Grand Junction record!

Can you say "Commie News network"?

CNN will try to influence the election WHILE people are voting. like the did in FL 2000.

35 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:40am

Rasmussen results:

October 11 51.90 - 44.56% Obama +7.34%
October 12 51.09 - 45.02% Obama +6.07%
October 13 50.43 - 44.69% Obama +5.74%
October 14 50.23 - 44.60% Obama +5.63%
October 15 49.98 - 44.60% Obama +5.38%
October 16 49.85 - 46.28% Obama +3.57%
October 17 50.34 - 45.88% Obama +4.46%
October 18 50.25 - 45.46% Obama +4.79%
October 19 50.73 - 44.63% Obama +6.10%
October 20 49.55 - 45.80% Obama +3.75%
October 21 50.19 - 45.64% Obama +4.55%

36 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:43am
37 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:57am

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

38 zombie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:05am

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

39 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:37am

Hey....Charles and all....we may get a great view of the biggest mass explosion of moonbat heads if this is true...

Wow!

40 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:42am

re: #28 Tigger2005

I hope the McCain campaign is saving the best ads for a media blitz these last 2 weeks. I think we still have lots of people waking up and saying, "Duh, there's a Presidential election coming up? Hmm, guess I'll vote for that well-dressed and well-spoken young fellow, Brick O'Manna or whatever his name is ..."

Early voting is underway and I think a lot of the votes cast will happen in this period... This and the Biden gaffe and its potential impact on the campaign is why early voting should not be allowed...

41 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:42am

Where are the protestors dressed in polar bear costumes chanting "OH-BA-MA!, OH-BA-MA!"?

Does Pueblo, Colorado really have no moonbats?

Must be a nice place.

42 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:17:51am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

Relax--it ain't a race. Just get there by Nov 4th.

43 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:01am

re: #30 doppelganglander

The House would have to impeach the President, and the Senate would have to convict him to remove him from office. Sorry, but that ain't happening.

You could have pictures of Obama himself voting thousands of times, and the House ain't gonna do a thing as long as its controlled by democrats. Once McCain concedes, it's over. Now, McCain could pull a Gore, and sue over voter fraud before Obama takes office, but I can't see any State overturning the winning ticket, even if you proved the win was solely due to voter fraud.

44 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:43am

re: #38 zombie

All hail the undead Optical Character Recognition!

45 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:51am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

I don't know what you're talking about, but I like it.

46 Egfrow  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:19:13am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

This tactic is aimed at intimidating voters into not voting Republican because of the skewed ratios of votes slanted towards Democrats.

47 notutopia  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:19:43am

re: #38 zombie

Amazing what software can do! You go Zombie!

48 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:01am

re: #21 cliffster

HAHAHAHA

That is the best. Absolutely the best.

They could have done better with a fighter cockpit that was contemporary to John McCain's service.

What did he fly? A-4s?

49 vxbush  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:14am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

Well, hurry up and post it already! We'se a gettin' anxious to sees it!

50 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:24am

Here's some good news from Murthas' district. The 2004 election was won by Kerry 51% to 49%. And I'm sure the heavily Dem. area are "Pleased as Punch" that their congressman just called them rednecks on national t.v.

51 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:27am

re: #38 zombie

I shiver with antici
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52 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:38am

NC Early Voting
Total Votes Cast: 474,276
Party ID D57/R27/I17
Black Vote: 28.7%

Obama has been encouraging AAs to vote early so future votes will be disproportionatly white.

Black vote in 2004 was 18.5%.

53 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:53am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

this early voting is BS..how soon before the actual election will the msm project obama the winner? Oh thats right cnn, nyt, wash post, etc.. already have.....I sense a dewey defeats truman scenario on the night of Nov 4th.

54 Globular Cluster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:55am

re: #21 cliffster

HAHAHAHA

That is the best. Absolutely the best.

I agree. It is awesome.

55 favorednation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:57am

re: #28 Tigger2005

"Brick Omamma"!
I'm gonna make a sign LOL

56 zombie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:21am

re: #49 vxbush

Well, hurry up and post it already! We'se a gettin' anxious to sees it!

Don't hold your breath. It'll be at least not until tonight, and possibly not until tomorrow.

57 notutopia  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:28am

re: #9 Joan Not of Arc

And they are brave. SHOW NO FEAR!

58 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:37am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

If you have been battling the Great Hippie with his Mountains then probably need a shower also. Now replace that grubby pencil with an American Cross Pen. You may be an Ink Stained Wretch but you have style.

59 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:23:20am

re: #32 NY Nana

Great Obama political cartoon.


That was great..thanks for posting that..

60 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:24:49am
Lloyd Marcus opened the event with a beautiful song he wrote about America, then gave an excellent talk. “We should stop calling it ‘conservativism’ and just call it what it is: ‘common sense’ “.


Which is what I have always thought it was.

61 summergurl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:24:56am

The potential fraud and the already apparent fraud has me troubled. Something, someone, whatever has to verify that the people who vote are who they are and have cast only one vote.

62 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:25:18am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

Do tell zombie.

63 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:26:11am

re: #62 jorline

Do tell zombie.

Good Afternoon Jorline. You doing well? Things are good here.

64 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:26:48am

re: #39 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Hey....Charles and all....we may get a great view of the biggest mass explosion of moonbat heads if this is true...

Wow!

What a shock, Obama using Pay-to-Play for his own election night party in a public park, Grant Park.

I may just have to go and check out the festivities, Zombie-style. Think I'll park the car a decent distance away though.

65 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:41am

re: #37 Egfrow

Colorado has already opened up the Polls and almost 70% of the voters so far have been Democrats. Less than 25% of current votes are Republican. I

If any Lizardiods here are Colorado Republicans then get your asses to the polling stations ASAP.

MSNBC calls Colorado for Obama.

66 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:50am

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

67 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:59am
68 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:28:24am

re: #56 zombie

Don't hold your breath. It'll be at least not until tonight, and possibly not until tomorrow.

Perhaps another FOX exclusive?

Congrats on yesterdays FOX coverage, zombie.

69 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:29:23am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

BOHICA?

JAFLW

70 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:29:27am

Two things from Hillbuzz today:

One- they like us and are asking for help.

Two- and this is the one you folks will like- Battleground 2008 poll shows STATISTICAL TIE

71 Pyrocles  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:02am

I can't wait until the West no longer needs Middle Eastern oil (if that ever happens...) Then, the savages will come begging us to buy their only means of income.

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

72 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:05am

re: #63 midwestgak

Good Afternoon Jorline. You doing well? Things are good here.

Hey mwg...long time no see. All is well here...I get to see the Rhuemy for the first time on November 3rd.

How are you?

73 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:20am

re: #55 favorednation

"Brick Omamma"!
I'm gonna make a sign LOL

Barack Yo Mama.

74 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:31:01am

re: #66 alegrias

Let's see what he says 2 weeks from now. If Obama would somehow win, I see bombs falling over Iran.

If we're going to pay for their oil, we might as well make them pay

75 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:31:53am

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.


I'm not an economic whiz, but was it just coincidental when the "Drill Now" movement started taking off here in the US, oil prices dropped dramatically? Now is not the time to stop progress on that front.

76 Spider Mensch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:32:14am

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.


saw this comming 3 weeks ago when the prices really started to drop. the cool weather is moving in across the nation, so that means time to fill up your heating oil tanks, time for opec to cut production and reap the money! raise the prices! they gonna get every last dollar out of our pockets they can.

77 Tarkus289  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:32:58am

re: #51 Who Watches the Watchmen?

But maybe the rain .......

78 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:07am

So, they raise gas prices ... our economy goes into a recession ... demand goes down ... prices go down ... sorry Iran, that's the way the market works.

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

79 fish  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:09am

re: #4 taxfreekiller

news of grandmother

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Wow. A broken hip. The exact kind of injury you would expect after being thrown under a bus...

80 Arkay  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:50am

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

81 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:22am

re: #71 Pyrocles

I can't wait until the West no longer needs Middle Eastern oil (if that ever happens...) Then, the savages will come begging us to buy their only means of income.

Really! Without anyone buying their oil, what have they got? A gang of sand and rocks with ugly black stuff under it. They would have to beg just to stay a third world country. Is there anything lower? ;-)>

82 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:26am

re: #76 Spider Mensch

they gonna get every last dollar out of our pockets they can.

In the grand tradition of "eat the other guy's french fries first," they are going to run out some day. They know they have limited time left to conquer us.

83 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:00am

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?

84 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:10am

Restaurant Offers Free Pizza for McCain Signs

[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

I wonder if that is with or without pepperoni?

85 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:20am

re: #72 jorline

Hey mwg...long time no see. All is well here...I get to see the Rhuemy for the first time on November 3rd.

How are you?

Seeing the Rhuemy the day before the election eh? I'm getting more encouraged by the day that McCain will win.

Anyway, he'll be able to really get down with that nasty illness. There are many treatments available now which have good success. Let me know. I'll be around.

My location (cube) has changed. I am now with the "mainstream." Was sorta hidden away from the rest of the employees. But the cube opened up (two people left the company unexpectedly). Glad neither of them was me. :)

86 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:22am

Joe the Policeman drags screaming Libtards across the asphalt as they try to block the baracuda juggernaut.
CNN

87 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:36:25am

re: #80 Arkay

Try going in to the office and demand to help. Or go to McCain's website where you can sign up to help and make phone calls for him from home.

88 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:07am

re: #68 jorline

Perhaps another FOX exclusive?

Congrats on yesterdays FOX coverage, zombie.


What was the lunch special today Jorline?
Obama Omletes?
( we make it up as we go)
Obama mama's?
( you can never have too much booze during an obama election cycle)
Obama flapjacks?
( they're some light and fuffy brown..they're the best in the town)
ok.. I ripped the pancake reference from Zappa )

89 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:23am

re: #84 Nevergiveup

Restaurant Offers Free Pizza for McCain Signs

[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

I wonder if that is with or without pepperoni?

Are they encouraging stealing? Is this illegal?

Sounds like the British paying the Indians for colonial scalps.

90 bellamags  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:31am

re: #70 Sharmuta

wow. what an article from a Hill site.

91 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:52am

re: #83 tfc3rid

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?

Electrifying is right. As in the fence you and I will be behind for daring to criticize The One.

92 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:50am

re: #80 Arkay

Say what? and a down ding to boot.

93 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:54am

re: #79 fish

Wow. A broken hip. The exact kind of injury you would expect after being thrown under a bus...


* * *
Broken hip needn't mean death--

John McCain's mother broke her hip at 93 or 94 years of age--while partying in Washington, DC!

She fell from some stairs after attending a party for John McCain at the Corcoran Gallery next to the White House, but was not, repeat, was NOT, thrown down by her own son!

And as you have seen on numerous interviews, at 96, McCain's mother is hale & hearty & out there stumping for Sarah Palin & Johnny Mac.

94 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:26am

re: #86 odinga

Joe the Policeman drags screaming Libtards across the asphalt as they try to block the baracuda juggernaut.
CNN

I'm sure the "liberals" were just making certain that Palin and her supporters enjoyed their full civil rights to speak, listen, and move about freely.

/

95 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:54am

Obama campaign selling Chicago election night coverage packages to news outlets

The Obama campaign is putting a hefty price tag on the best camera and reporting positions for news organizations covering Barack Obama's outdoor election night activities in downtown Chicago. If a reporter wants access to the file center--which will be the best place to find Obama officials and spokesmen--be prepared to write a check for $935. The cheapest place a reporter could stand on a riser with a view is $880.

That $935 covers one reporter in a heated file tent, power, cable tv, internet and food. I am told by an Obama spokesman who did not want his name used that this just covers costs and they are not turning a profit on this. The planners could have built in more al a carte options.

This is an outrageous pay to play plan that caters to national elite outlets with deep pockets.

**self deleted comment**

96 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:57am

Whatcha want? Rock bands? Hollyweird stars? Good luck getting their agents to return your calls.


re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

97 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:40:16am

re: #70 Sharmuta

One thing about donating to Hillbuzz for that party. Why donate for a party, when you can donate to the GOP to make it easier to beat Obama? Save the celebrations for later... There's work to do....

98 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:40:47am

re: #94 Silhouette

I'm sure the "liberals" were just making certain that Palin and her supporters enjoyed their full civil rights to speak, listen, and move about freely.

/

If a conservative speaks and no liberal hears it, is it still hate speech?

99 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:12am

re: #95 jorline

Obama campaign selling Chicago election night coverage packages to news outlets

**self deleted comment**

If it only covers cost, how come the better locations are more expensive?

100 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:35am

re: #85 midwestgak

Seeing the Rhuemy the day before the election eh? I'm getting more encouraged by the day that McCain will win.

Anyway, he'll be able to really get down with that nasty illness. There are many treatments available now which have good success. Let me know. I'll be around.

My location (cube) has changed. I am now with the "mainstream." Was sorta hidden away from the rest of the employees. But the cube opened up (two people left the company unexpectedly). Glad neither of them was me. :)

Sounds like everything is going well for you...good.

I will keep you updated about the RA via email.

101 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:36am

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

If I had to guess, assuming this has to do with your success with OCR, I'd say you managed to extract text from an old book that was defaced by said Dirty Hippie with a pencil. No doubt the book was out of print and this was your best shot at getting the goods. And it seems to have something to do with Bill Ayers. Can't wait to see the results.

102 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:37am

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

* * *
Why don't you just show up (come to the aid of your country), instead of waiting for Mac & his underdog campaign, to come to your aid?

Git! Just Git! If you want to win this thing, git going yourself. We need your help, and all hands on deck are busy, so go there & offer yourself, your time, your talents, your treasure.

Thank you for your service--two phone calls are a good first step but we've only got two weeks.

104 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:48am

re: #95 jorline

The beginning of Change... What a night it will be... And you know the media will pay it...

It's just another $$ bundling exercise...

105 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:51am

re: #99 Nevergiveup

If it only covers cost, how come the better locations are more expensive?

Because better locations cost more! Duh!

106 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:27am
The protesters were members of a group called "Red Pill," Smith said.

A Web site that carried an announcement of the group's planned protest urged supporters to show Palin "that we as a community say no to war, no to corporate cronyism, and no to four more years of Bush-style leadership."

But apparently say "yes" to violence, crime, intimidation, and attempts to silence or hinder those with whom you disagree politically.

Scratch a "liberal", find a dictator.

107 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:37am

re: #105 Tigger2005

Because better locations cost more! Duh!

Is the air better?

108 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:18am

re: #70 Sharmuta

Two things from Hillbuzz today:

One- they like us and are asking for help.

Two- and this is the one you folks will like- Battleground 2008 poll shows STATISTICAL TIE

And they have some valid points to make about that poll - especially in regard to the msm getting lots into eeyore-mood during the primaries!

So pull up yer socks, don't listen to the msm, disregard their polls and work - its only for two more weeks!

109 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:33am

re: #97 lawhawk

I agree. I'd rather give money to McCain/Palin, the RNC and my local republicans. I just found it interesting how they've embraced both LGF and Ace as allies- at least temporarily.

110 mattm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:35am

re: #39 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Hey....Charles and all....we may get a great view of the biggest mass explosion of moonbat heads if this is true...

Wow!

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

111 bellamags  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:50am

re: #101 doppelganglander

great detective work, doppel

112 Tigger2005  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:16am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

Did OPEC actually agree to that? Did Iran strongarm them into it? Or is it bluster?

If this news causes another stock market crash and sends the economy into a recession, how will they keep this up?

113 musicman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:35am

re: #89 Tigger2005

Are they encouraging stealing? Is this illegal?

Sounds like the British paying the Indians for colonial scalps.

re: #84 Nevergiveup

Restaurant Offers Free Pizza for McCain Signs

[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

I wonder if that is with or without pepperoni?

Link does not work for me.

114 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:46am

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

Hola alegrias!

The mullahs are just sweating. High oil prices have mitigated some of the effects of the sanctions, which helped keep them in power. Their inflation is at 30% and climbing. OPEC is meeting to discuss cutting production but the fact is that the global slowdown will keep decreasing demand. China is slowing faster than expected (tho the growth rate of 8% is still phenomenal). They're decreasing taxes on home purchases and giving VAT rebates to some industries.

Keep your eye on shipping. It's down considerably - partly because of costs (which is causing some companies that had off-shored operations to relocate back home) and partly because of the credit crunch. Shipping uses a lot of oil - most of it 'bunker' but the maritime nut cases at the UN have put the kabosh on that because of the sulpher content. Having to use more refined fuel raises costs - which decreases shipping and therefore decreases demand.

115 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:54am

I beleive I made this exact point about McCain's using a computer on a past thread.

[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...]

116 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:10am

Lib friend at work was chiding me on how Joe the Plumber got "owned" with the license and tax issues.

I looked at him at asked "Is that how you want an Obama administration to react if you ask a tough question or criticize it?"

He was literally speechless and his mouth open and closed a few times as he contemplated the idea.

117 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:23am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

* * *
And his chubby side kick Hugo Chavez is equally nasty about hurting the USA. They're plotting this Friday to hike gas prices.

118 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:25am

re: #86 odinga

Joe the Policeman drags screaming Libtards across the asphalt as they try to block the baracuda juggernaut.
CNN

Sigh. Pity they didn't lay the smackdown on the libtards, just some Road Rash.

JAFLW

119 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:34am

re: #110 mattm

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

I know.

BO is such a whore.

I hope he loses....I'd love to see the crowd's reaction.

120 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:58am

re: #115 Ben Hur

I beleive I made this exact point about McCain's using a computer on a past thread.

[Link: www.lookingattheleft.com...]

You're not the only who made that point........

121 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:59am

re: #88 HoosierHoops

What was the lunch special today Jorline?
Obama Omletes?
( we make it up as we go)
Obama mama's?
( you can never have too much booze during an obama election cycle)
Obama flapjacks?
( they're some light and fuffy brown..they're the best in the town)
ok.. I ripped the pancake reference from Zappa )

Special should have been;

Obama Burger.

Just a bun piled high with crap...lol

Add cheese and make it an Elitist Obama Burger!

122 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:46:30am

re: #23 Nevergiveup

All except for the Tail, because Billy Ayers and his spouse Bernardine are wearing rings made from it.

/Sort of. Made from U.S. Aircraft, not necessarily Sen. McCain's.

123 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:46:51am

re: #108 yma o hyd

Hillbuzz also has a great analysis of the Nickelodeon Kid's poll, where 0bama won by 2%.

124 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:17am

re: #111 bellamags

great detective work, doppel

Thanks. We'll see if I'm right. Even if I'm wrong, I'm sure zombie will have something very interesting to share with us.

125 musicman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:22am

re: #95 jorline

Obama campaign selling Chicago election night coverage packages to news outlets

**self deleted comment**

I costs more to worship at the feet of Obama. I wonder how much it costs to kiss his ring?

126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:22am

re: #110 mattm

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

$300 for a one night long distance line, and they want to manage my healthcare?

127 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #98 jcm

If a conservative speaks and no liberal hears it, is it still hate speech?

Oh, c'mon, The answer is obvious...

/moonbat off

JAFLW

128 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:25am

re: #110 mattm

$275 for internet access, for 1 night. Wow.

Weird since they all think the night will be over by 8PM whhen they win VA...

129 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:53am

re: #122 Cap'n DOC

All except for the Tail, because Billy Ayers and his spouse Bernardine are wearing rings made from it.

/Sort of. Made from U.S. Aircraft, not necessarily Sen. McCain's.

Yeah I read that somewhere also. Made me wanta puke. Nice friends Obama hangs with.

130 Arkay  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:27am

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?>

Yeah--if it were someone other than Obama running.

"But they ain't, ain't they?" :0p

As for all the down dings, don't blame ME for the truth.

I'm a lifetime Republican with 24 years' political experience. A lot of it on the Hill. And I know an incompetently run, don't-wanna-win campaign when I see one.

Add to that, Obama thuggery. Saw a sign up in Macomb County headquarters: "Sorry we cannot replace stolen lawn signs." I asked the lady, WTF? She says, "There's a $1.50 a sign bounty being paid by the unions for stolen McCain lawn signs. We can't keep them up."

131 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:28am
A Military Times poll indicates landslide support for John McCain, who captures 68 percent of the military vote to Barack Obama's 23 percent.

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

And because they support McCain, this pole will get 0 publicity.

132 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:29am

re: #122 Cap'n DOC

All except for the Tail, because Billy Ayers and his spouse Bernardine are wearing rings made from it.

/Sort of. Made from U.S. Aircraft, not necessarily Sen. McCain's.

The go to bed every night rubbing the rings and wishing it was McCain's plane.

133 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:33am

re: #121 jorline

Special should have been;

Obama Burger.

Just a bun piled high with crap...lol

Add cheese and make it an Elitist Obama Burger!


Don't forget the arugula.

134 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:42am

re: #124 doppelganglander

Thanks. We'll see if I'm right. Even if I'm wrong, I'm sure zombie will have something very interesting to share with us.

After 2 months of intensive investigative work myself.. I can state with certainty that Zombie is a Girl..no a Boy..no a girl..no a..well crap!

135 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:51am

re: #121 jorline

Special should have been;

Obama Burger.

Just a bun piled high with crap...lol

Add cheese and make it an Elitist Obama Burger!

It gets cut into pieces and is redistribed to waiting customers.

136 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:52am

Do not despair. This race is as tight as the skin on Pelosi's face.

Biden's forehead shows no signs of Encephalization. It is as smooth as an ice rink. Get out the zamboni.

137 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:05am

re: #8 Sharmuta

Lloyd Marcus should write a book:

This is exactly the type of story that should be promoted by the right because he's spot on.

Where is the link to that?

138 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:12am

re: #108 yma o hyd

Yma -- So good to read your voice! I'm going to get my hair cut off -- about 12 inches of it! -- and will be back in a couple hours, a fraction of a pound lighter! Don't want to look like a beach bum for my interview, you know.

139 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:46am

re: #137 DistantThunder

Where is the link to that?

Uh- at the top of this page....

140 jaunte  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:57am

re: #86 odinga

Those idiots are going to get someone hurt, jumping into the road like that.

141 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:59am

re: #104 tfc3rid

The beginning of Change... What a night it will be... And you know the media will pay it...

It's just another $$ bundling exercise...

They can throw rocks at AIG expenditures all they want.

I want to see the price tag of Obama's taxpayer funded victory loser party if he wins when he gets dumped.

142 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:19am

re: #125 musicman

I costs more to worship at the feet of Obama. I wonder how much it costs to kiss his ring ass?

Fixed!

JAFLW

143 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:36am

re: #114 wahabicorridor

* * *
Hola W. Corridor!

Thank you for your economic insights. Yes, China's sweating major problems (labor riots) as Chinese lose jobs because we've slowed down buying their stuff.

Mullahs need their moolah and what have they got besides oil & crime syndicates?

144 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:36am

re: #120 jcm

You're not the only who made that point........


Obviously.

145 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:55am

re: #138 hermeneutics

Yma -- So good to read your voice! I'm going to get my hair cut off -- about 12 inches of it! -- and will be back in a couple hours, a fraction of a pound lighter! Don't want to look like a beach bum for my interview, you know.


If you're still here, donate your hair.

146 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:09am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.


If this idiot says that I'm predicting that next year at this time gasoline is $1.85 a gallon and oil is $45 per barrel.

147 jill e  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:10am

From Doug Ross @ Journal:

The Manifesto of the Silenced Majority

• We believe that Barack Obama is a brilliant orator and a man possessed of more charisma than any politician since JFK.

• But we also believe that his philosophy of "spreading the wealth around" is an ill-disguised form of socialism that undermines everything America holds dear.

• We believe that a "tax cut on 95% of working Americans" when only 63% of Americans pay taxes is nonsensical.

• We believe that the Obama campaign's obfuscated funding for ACORN (originally described as "event planning") undermines the integrity of our elections and calls into question the legality of his tactics.

• We believe that Barack Obama's plan to form a "civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military is ill-considered at best.

• We believe that the Obama campaign's efforts to intimidate WGN (on two separate occasions) when it interviewed his political foes endangers free speech.

• We believe that Obama's choice of Joe Biden as VP runs counter to his twin aspirations of "hope" and "change".

• We believe that a man who could not otherwise receive a security clearance should not serve as Commander-in-Chief.

• We believe that Obama's 20-year relationship with his pastor, who he once described as his "spiritual adviser", displays a basic affinity for a racist ideology that runs counter to everything his candidacy should stand for.

• We believe that most of Obama's senate experience has been spent running for office; from the time he was sworn in as a U.S. senator to the time he formed a presidential exploratory committee, he logged only 143 days in the senate.

• We believe that Obama does voters a disservice by hiding his chairmanship of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (a $165 million dollar effort to improve Chicago's schools) when he used that service as his central experience in 2000 during his first run for Congress.

• We believe that Obama made a series of very poor choices by serving on boards and sharing an office with Bill Ayers (for three years); Ayers' organization killed three police officers, bombed numerous government facilities and nearly detonated a nail bomb at a Fort Dix Officer's Dance.

• We believe that, no matter Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers, his evasive and ever-morphing answers about their work together smack of a coverup.

• We believe that anyone -- no matter their position on abortion -- who supports killing an infant that survived a botched abortion is on the wrong side of any moral code.

• We believe that Obama's advisers and contributors -- from Tony Rezko to Valerie Jarrett to Allison Davis -- cost taxpayers millions in development fees for failed (and often uninhabitable) apartment complexes.

• We believe that Obama's Illinois state senate experience was insubstantial: it was, by his own description, a "part-time position" and he maintained two offices (one at the state senate and one at his law firm).

• We believe that Obama's state senatorial experience was further diluted by his 129 "present" votes, which, as NPR observes , "There's a saying in Springfield that there's a reason why the present button is yellow... [but] I don't think that Barack Obama was necessarily a coward for voting present on those bills..."

• We also believe that Obama's experience as a community organizer and as a trainer for ACORN are not qualifications for the presidency.

• We believe that the candidate has not been forthcoming with his background and the key influencing forces during his formative years.

We therefore believe that Barack Obama is ill-prepared and ill-suited for the Presidency.

148 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:10am

re: #145 newsjunkie_ky

If you're still here, donate your hair.

I will.

149 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:36am

re: #133 redstateredneck

Don't forget the arugula.

Sorry...thanks rsrn.

150 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:42am

re: #130 Arkay

You just told us about the sign bounty. Would you mind telling the authorities? Maybe they could check into that.

151 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:55am

re: #148 hermeneutics

I will.

Many years ago, I went through chemo and lost my locks. A silly hat sufficed for me, but I understand all too well what it feels like to be a bald woman.

152 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:57am

re: #131 Ben Hur

Where was the poll that said the military was all Ron Paul, based on donations? And then, if I'm remembering right, one later saying that they were all for Obama. We knew it had to be bunk, especially because people can self-report occupation/employer.

153 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:53:15am

Let's not forget what Obama really is at heart - a Chicago Lawyer - the most corrupt of the most corrupt. Lawyer are the second least trusted profession right above used car salesman.


42 Reasons Why I Hate Lawyers

Wait’ll you hear about the lawyer who billed a client for
the time spent having sex together!

1) Because University of Texas finance professor Stephen
Magee has calculated that each U.S. lawyer drains the economy
of an average of $1 million a year in productivity.

2) Because the U.S. harbored 748,028 creatures of the bar as
of 1990, according to the American Bar Association.

3) Because if Magee is right, those leeches now suck some
three-quarters of a trillion dollars out of our economy annually.

4) Because the emotional turmoil caused by all those lawyers
is every bit as costly as the economic toll.

5) Because the ABA expects there to be, ouch, a million lawyers
by 2000.

154 Charles  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:54:47am

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:54:53am

Ace has a story of a leaked PA internal from the Obama camp... +2.

RCP has him at +11 in Pa.

/so, apply that 9 pnt fudge factor to other polls and see what you see.

Looking good folks, stick to it!

156 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:18am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Wow... That is something else... The war against the MSM is growing...

157 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:20am

re: #123 Sharmuta

Hillbuzz also has a great analysis of the Nickelodeon Kid's poll, where 0bama won by 2%.

That is really interesting - in the other article you linked they said that Kerry was up by 11% in that poll.
It should really really not be happening like that for the B0, up by two, thats 2 piddling points against McCain - who is old, yeah, and has no kiddies singing that he'll 'change the world' ...

That makes me think his Obamamarathon TV presence will become an epic fail.

158 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:38am

re: #145 newsjunkie_ky

If you're still here, donate your hair.


Hey ya news..guess what? I got a dog Saturday...

159 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:01am

re: #151 hermeneutics

Many years ago, I went through chemo and lost my locks. A silly hat sufficed for me, but I understand all too well what it feels like to be a bald woman.


Not just chemo. Alopecia is not that rare in women and children. Daughter #2 had a fairly large patch of hair fall out overnight when she was in 5th grade. Luckily, we could arrange what was left to cover the spot. Also, due to a really good dermatologist, her hair grew back. A lot of cases never do.

160 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:05am

...

161 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:10am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Who does he think he is?/sarc

162 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:23am

Does anyone know why the GWU/Battleground poll is ignored? I know the media def ignores it and probably best to ignore all polls until later next week. It's just interesting. RCP does show it but thye post it tword the bottom of the list. Curious if it's not taken seriously. Anyone know?

163 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:28am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Klein is one.

164 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:40am

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

The era of cheap oil is over? Someone ought to be looking at that latest trend in oil - the decline by 50% since its all time highs over the summer. Looks like the Iranians picked the wrong time to stop sniffing glue.

165 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:41am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Do you blame him? He doesn't want a stinky plane like Obama's.

166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:56:49am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Looks like McCain wised up finally.

167 redstateredneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:07am

re: #156 tfc3rid

Wow... That is something else... The war against the MSM is growing...

He is quite pissed about the hit piece on Cindy.

168 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:21am

re: #144 Ben Hur

Obviously.

After the townhall debate a local talking air head critized the way McCain was holding the microphone.

I wrote a very terse email describing McCain's injuries and torture, told him is shouldn't be opening his yap on the tube because he was too ignorant and stoopid to be commenting on the subject.

169 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:30am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Didn't they dump Maureen Dowd on the tarmac in Washington PA back in August? As a slap in the face to the NYT? She kvetched about 'first amendment' crappola if I recall.

170 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:31am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Blowback's a bitch.

171 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:54am

re: #166 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Looks like McCain wised up finally.

And theyare complaining to NBC about Andrea Mitchell. Hey welcome to the party John!

172 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:03am

re: #131 Ben Hur

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

And because they support McCain, this pole will get 0 publicity.

But ... but ... they gave over $20,000 to the B0 campaign, they did!

173 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:07am

re: #153 DistantThunder

You sure of that. I'm pretty sure that politician is the least trusted profession these days (though many politicians are lawyers).

174 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:20am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

* * *
Thank you Charles.

The New York Times, this year, doing the work even departed Lee Atwater wouldn't do!

175 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:28am

re: #153 DistantThunder

Let's not forget what Obama really is at heart - a Chicago Lawyer - the most corrupt of the most corrupt. Lawyer are the second least trusted profession right above used car salesman.

Working girls try harder?
/ducks and runs

176 DistantThunder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:38am

re: #162 janmar

Does anyone know why the GWU/Battleground poll is ignored? I know the media def ignores it and probably best to ignore all polls until later next week. It's just interesting. RCP does show it but thye post it tword the bottom of the list. Curious if it's not taken seriously. Anyone know?

I heard the Battleground poll, from Rush, is accurate because it is bi-partisan: a Democrat polls Democrats and a republican polls Republicans.

177 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:58:59am

re: #147 jill e

Where do I sign?

178 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:29am

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Hey ya news..guess what? I got a dog Saturday...


Awww. Tell us more.............

179 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:44am

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

'bout time.

180 Syrah  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:50am

We need to use a different word other than "Elitist" when talking about the snooty left's derision of Palin, McCain or any other Republican.

We need to call them Snobs.

Elite and elitist are not pejorative enough.

Snob is.

Snobs describes them to a "T".

The snooty left are not Elites, they are Snobs.

181 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:00:08pm
182 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:00:20pm

re: #138 hermeneutics

Yma -- So good to read your voice! I'm going to get my hair cut off -- about 12 inches of it! -- and will be back in a couple hours, a fraction of a pound lighter! Don't want to look like a beach bum for my interview, you know.

12 inches - blimey!
(Green with envy ...!)

Gotta have before-and-after photos!

183 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:00:52pm

re: #168 jcm

After the townhall debate a local talking air head critized the way McCain was holding the microphone.

I wrote a very terse email describing McCain's injuries and torture, told him is shouldn't be opening his yap on the tube because he was too ignorant and stoopid to be commenting on the subject.


I guy I work with, in his late 20s, joined us for lunch last week.

This is a very smart person.

He said he couldn't understand what was up with McCains arms and how funny he holds them.

We let him know.

He really had no idea.

184 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:05pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Last week I was driving in the motorcade for the campaign and asked the Press about the Maureen Dowd story. They assured me she was never really on the plane, it was full, she didn't have a reservation and no one, even other journalists, thought it was an issue between McCain and the Press.

185 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:16pm

Strange, though - kicking anyone off the plane is the opposite of what our wise friend Bill Kristol suggested.

186 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:28pm

re: #181 odinga

The Obama salute's creepy predecessor

nuff said.

Good find. Updinged ya.

187 Syrah  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:34pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Good.

Its not like they were ever going to give him a fair shake.

188 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:01:44pm

re: #155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Just brought up RCP daily tracking and it's showing Obama + 7
Looking better all the time.

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

189 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:02:51pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

* * *

This year, the New York Times goes after McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter and her schoolmates--something liberals accused Republicans of doing eight years ago.

I'll bet it was liberals who attacked little Bridget McCain eight years ago.

Glad the McCain camp has figured out who's looking out for them, and who is against them.

190 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:07pm

re: #183 Ben Hur

I guy I work with, in his late 20s, joined us for lunch last week.

This is a very smart person.

He said he couldn't understand what was up with McCains arms and how funny he holds them.

We let him know.

He really had no idea.

I could somewhat understand an ordinary person who's not a political wonk not knowing. But a TV station talking airhead who's supposed to know the candidates, histories and issues?

No mercy. I really ripped at him, I was so pissed at his comments.

191 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:16pm

re: #59 HoosierHoops

Thanks. I had meant to post it yesterday, when it was in the NY Post. This damned election has me in a constant state of agita....we canceled our subscription, amazingly, 2 days before they endorsed Hussein, and subscribed to the NY Post, who had already endorsed McCain/Palin.

We got phone calls every day after from the Daily News, asking us to re-consider, and offering a deal...finally I took the phone out of NY Grampa's hand yesterday, and told the rep never to call us again, and that she could stuff the crap sheet where the sun don't shine, and to never, ever call here again.

Amazing how good I felt! NY Grampa is still sitting there with a stunned facial expression, so help me! ;)

I had been getting the Post in an email daily and still do.

It is owned by Murdoch, and I was worried that the Post might not endorse, as Foxnews seems to be deteriorating..but they came through, and the Daily News is owned by Mort Zuckerman, who is a Zionist. Some Zionist. Feh.

192 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:30pm

re: #155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ace has a story of a leaked PA internal from the Obama camp... +2.

RCP has him at +11 in Pa.

/so, apply that 9 pnt fudge factor to other polls and see what you see.

Looking good folks, stick to it!

I KNEW it! And, I really believe +2 is generous....

193 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:33pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Hm.
Any reason given?

194 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:03:38pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Good for him. Letting the NYT on board is like hiring a babysitter from NAMBLA.

195 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:24pm

re: #192 PAgirlinNC

I KNEW it! And, I really believe +2 is generous....

Remember this point 4 years ago.

Kerry was a lock.

196 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:50pm

re: #193 yma o hyd

Hm.
Any reason given?

I imagine it had something to do with the hitpiece on Cindy McCain.

197 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:56pm

176 DistantThunder
10/21/08 11:58:38 am reply quote 0

re: #162 janmar

Does anyone know why the GWU/Battleground poll is ignored? I know the media def ignores it and probably best to ignore all polls until later next week. It's just interesting. RCP does show it but thye post it tword the bottom of the list. Curious if it's not taken seriously. Anyone know?

I heard the Battleground poll, from Rush, is accurate because it is bi-partisan: a Democrat polls Democrats and a republican polls Republicans.

Interesting because they put the race at 48-47 for barry.

198 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:04:57pm

re: #155 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Ace has a story of a leaked PA internal from the Obama camp... +2.

RCP has him at +11 in Pa.

/so, apply that 9 pnt fudge factor to other polls and see what you see.

Looking good folks, stick to it!

I have been sayin [I dropped the "g" to piss of Noonan] for a month that PA is going RED. It is definitely in play. The polls make no sense. Ignore them and Vote.

199 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:00pm

re: #189 alegrias

* * *

This year, the New York Times goes after McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter and her schoolmates--something liberals accused Republicans of doing eight years ago.

I'll bet it was liberals who attacked little Bridget McCain eight years ago.

Glad the McCain camp has figured out who's looking out for them, and who is against them.

I just hope it is not to little to late

200 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:07pm

re: #188 x-wing

Just brought up RCP daily tracking and it's showing Obama + 7
Looking better all the time.

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

Crap wrong poll. never mind.

201 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:25pm

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Hey ya news..guess what? I got a dog Saturday...

What breed?
What colour?
What age?
Has he chewed any favourite shoes yet?
C'mon, spill the beans, lizards need to know!

202 Shug  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:05:58pm

re: #181 odinga

The Obama salute's creepy predecessor

nuff said.


and both leaders were excellent speakers and could really fill up a park in Berlin

203 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:06:30pm

Something to consider about McCain barring some of the press from his plane- Dear Leader already went this route with staffers from the New Yorker, so if they want to complain, they'll be hypocrites (again) for taking McCain to task for it and not 0bama.

204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:06:58pm
205 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:07:22pm

re: #181 odinga

The Obama salute's creepy predecessor

nuff said.

Just an FYI- the PUMA blogs had that a couple weeks ago.

206 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:07:42pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

"The era of cheap shots is finished."

207 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:06pm

Jesus was not a community organizer; but God is a Governor.

208 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:08pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some one at MoveOn thinks they're being clever again:

PSA: “Voting Republican even once can have disastrous effects that last for years.”

My response to them. It'll ruin more than your day.

209 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:12pm

re: #131 Ben Hur

A Military Times poll indicates landslide support for John McCain, who captures 68 percent of the military vote to Barack Obama's 23 percent.

Here are the stories from September of '07, and then repeated again this past August.

The story/lie they are selling here is that those in the military, those most affected by the war, want the anti-war candidates.

From Sept '07

Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Ron Paul have little in common politically, except their opposition to the Iraq war.
Obama, an Illinois senator, brought in more donations from (those that work in the military) than any White House contender from either party. The Democrat announced Wednesday his plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2008.

The sentence about more military support immediately followed by one about troop withdrawal, clearly linking the two ideas.

In 2002, the center said Democrats received 23% of contributions from military workers; Republicans got 77%. This year, 40% of their donations have gone to Democrats running for Congress and president. The GOP got 59%.

The donation patterns "would suggest that those who wear the uniform want change," said Joe Davis, spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars.

And then from Aug '08

Troops serving abroad have given nearly six times as much money to Obama's presidential campaign as they have to McCain's, the Center for Responsive Politics said.
...
Obama has opposed the war in Iraq and says he would withdraw combat troops within 16 months. McCain has been a steadfast supporter of the war

We knew this had to be BS. There is no way the military actually prefered Obama, and surely not by 6-1. And now we have the proof.

I firmly believe the faux stories in Sept '07 and Aug '08 are a result of the fact that when one is contributing, one self-reports one's employer. Yes, I'm saying that I think Obama and Ron Paul supporters lied about the employers to make it seem as if more of the military supported their candidate than reality. Yes, even taking into account that not everyone who works for the Army, for example, is IN the Army.

But we'll never know because those that could do the investigating, won't. The media is too busy digging through Palin's past to see if she ever split an infinitive.

You'd think they'd be mad they were duped into giving a false impression.

210 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #191 NY Nana

You tell 'em, Nana!

211 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:10:02pm

From Greg Gutfeld at Fox News

So Obama thinks that FOX News has hurt him in the polls, saying that even if he watched us, he wouldn't vote for himself either.

Now, I don't think he's wrong. I actually think FOX News does go after him. But hell, someone has to.

For my whole life, every network has been uniformly, heart-bleedingly liberal. Nearly every damn magazine, newspaper and after-school special spits out the same lefty assumptions — rich people greedy, Republicans bad, America evil — as though they are suffering from a Marxist version of Tourette.

And Obama is their guy.

That's why today, every anchor has a woodie for him, and every star-struck pop singer offers the Messiah their services for free. And there's the late night comics, who hammer Republicans seven times more often than Dems. It's just too easy to be funny.

But despite all this, you still have twerps soiling their diapers over FOX News just because it won't comply with an overarching liberal theocracy. You've got celebrity cretins like Tim Robbins, watchdog weenies like Media Matters and crybaby cranks like Keith Olbermann suffering seizures because FOX won't roll over.

I say, stop being a bunch of pussies, you pretty much own the airwaves.

And as for you Obama, stop acting like a kid who complains because you got a 98 instead of a perfect grade. Seriously, you don't need mindless obedience from everyone to win.

So Obama, if you're expecting people here to kiss your ass, you'll need to go elsewhere. I hear there's a guy at MSNBC with a thrill up his leg dying to give you a sponge bath.

And if you disagree with me, then you sir are worse than Hitler.

212 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:10:31pm

Hope everyone is aware that Wretchard (Richard Fernandez has excellent threads on The Belmont Club, noting Colin Powell's possible motives for signing on to Obama. My take is that after he shafted the country over the Valerie Plame affair and allowed the conviction of an innocent man, Scooter Libby, to proceed, Powell forfeited the credibility and respect he had spent 40 years accumulating.

213 Syrah  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:10:41pm

re: #206 Who Watches the Watchmen?

"The era of cheap shots is finished."

They will still hit us with cheap shots.

If they want to be assholes, they can pay the price. It's up to them.

214 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:11:16pm

re: #206 Who Watches the Watchmen?

"The era of cheap shots is finished."

And it's about damn time. Just wish Mac would've figured this out a long time ago. We all knew it was coming.

215 fish  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:11:51pm

re: #119 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I know.

BO is such a whore.

I hope he loses....I'd love to see the crowd's reaction.

I dont care how the crowd reacts as long as he loses.

216 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:13:18pm

re: #207 odinga

Jesus was not a community organizer; but God is a Governor.

Jesus was not a lawyer, but God is a Judge.

217 BigJohn  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:13:28pm

re: #119 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I know.

BO is such a whore.

I hope he loses....I'd love to see the crowd's reaction.


It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

218 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:14:14pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

More like the Rodney King verdict.

219 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:14:23pm

BIDEN: "Gird Your Loins".

What a nutsac!

He is having another Ayerism.

220 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:14:54pm

re: #209 Silhouette

I know a lot of people in the military who liked Ron Paul, but it had absolutely nothing to do with his anti-war stance. The line between Obama and Paul is completely superficial. The unreported story is that Ron Paul ran a campaign on a staunch belief in the Constitution, which resonates with the rank and file in the military. The military probably doesn't like Barak Obama for the same reason they like Ron Paul (even if they don't like him as much as was reported).

221 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:12pm

re: #210 Sharmuta

You tell 'em, Nana!

Moi? Quiet, shy reserved moi? Surely you jest! ;)

222 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:37pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

You mean the Rodney King verdict.

223 Shug  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:40pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.


Like Detroit after any sports championship

224 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:15:52pm

re: #188 x-wing

The +11 I referred to was for PA alone... A +6 national with the fudge factor = President McCain.

/and Obama goes back to Chicago and pounds sand.

225 PAgirlinNC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:16:21pm

re: #195 jcm

Remember this point 4 years ago.

Kerry was a lock.

I looked up the results from 2004. Bush lost PA by less than 250,000. I think PA is going to be red. I think there are alot of PUMAs and bitter clingers and now Murtha constituents who are going to vote for McCain/Palin. (Of course, this is removing the ACORN factor. I'm not sure how bad voter fraud is there this year...)

226 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:16:25pm

re: #223 Shug

Like Detroit after any sports championship

or a Raiders game

227 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:18:06pm

re: #212 lifeofthemind

Hope everyone is aware that Wretchard (Richard Fernandez has excellent threads on The Belmont Club, noting Colin Powell's possible motives for signing on to Obama. My take is that after he shafted the country over the Valerie Plame affair and allowed the conviction of an innocent man, Scooter Libby, to proceed, Powell forfeited the credibility and respect he had spent 40 years accumulating.

* * *
Not to mention General Powell blew the first Gulf War.

Powell let Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard Thugs escape to fight another day, instead of finishing the job when he had them where we wanted them, leaving Kuwait in a panic.

Powell stunk and wasted our hundreds of thousands of troops time twice, plus balked on Bosnia.

Powell's a waffler. Good riddance sir.

228 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:14pm

re: #225 PAgirlinNC

(Of course, this is removing the ACORN factor. I'm not sure how bad voter fraud is there this year...)

I'll bet in Philly it's pretty bad - in the 'burg, tho' my firends tell me people aren't paying attention to politics, so I don't know.

229 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:24pm
230 imtoast  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:30pm

re: #217 BigJohn

It will be like LA after the OJ verdict.

That would be the Rodney King cop trial.

231 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:40pm

re: #154 Charles

Good for them. Serves 'em right.

232 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:42pm

re: #225 PAgirlinNC

I looked up the results from 2004. Bush lost PA by less than 250,000. I think PA is going to be red. I think there are alot of PUMAs and bitter clingers and now Murtha constituents who are going to vote for McCain/Palin. (Of course, this is removing the ACORN factor. I'm not sure how bad voter fraud is there this year...)

by crikey, let's hope so! :)

233 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:44pm

re: #223 Shug

Like Detroit after any sports championship

or a Raiders game

Hey Hey I'm a Raider fan. But a proud conservative, they can go together.

234 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:19:50pm

A few threads back, Zombie was teasing that he had a follow-up on the Ayers/Obama connection, but he declined to give details.

Did he ever share?

235 BigJohn  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:22pm

re: #218 JSK1121

re: #222 x-wing


Thanks. Yeah Rodney King.

236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:32pm

re: #227 alegrias

* * *
Not to mention General Powell blew the first Gulf War.

Powell let Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard Thugs escape to fight another day, instead of finishing the job when he had them where we wanted them, leaving Kuwait in a panic.

Powell stunk and wasted our hundreds of thousands of troops time twice, plus balked on Bosnia.

Powell's a waffler. Good riddance sir.

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.

237 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:48pm

re: #224 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

The +11 I referred to was for PA alone... A +6 national with the fudge factor = President McCain.

/and Obama goes back to Chicago and pounds sand.

I screwed up. I posted my retraction. I had the Pa. Dem. primary poll and hit the Mac/Obama poll, and that was national.

I'm really feeling good about my state going Rep. this year. We can pull this out, voter fraud in Philly be damned.

238 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:54pm

re: #165 HoosierHoops

Took care of that odor when Maureen Dowd was left on the McCain tarmac. lololol, would've paid to see that.

239 Vergeltung  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:20:59pm

re: #234 DeafDog

A few threads back, Zombie was teasing that he had a follow-up on the Ayers/Obama connection, but he declined to give details.
Did he ever share?

said not until tonight, or maybe tomorrow.

240 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:21:14pm

re: #236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.

And the shiites in the south. Not that they would have loved us anyway, but that was the nail in the cofffin.

241 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:21:24pm

re: #221 NY Nana

The msm will pay for what they've done. Thanks to people like you, they already are. Thanks, {Nana}.

242 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:21:56pm

re: #201 yma o hyd

What breed?
What colour?
What age?
Has he chewed any favourite shoes yet?
C'mon, spill the beans, lizards need to know!

Well as you all know after raising 5 kids with the youngest being 16 the house is to damn quiet..
He is a beautiful, brown long hair chihawa( sic )
His name is Winston and he follows the hoopster around where ever I go. Loves to play.. I'm teaching him basketball but his rebounding and shooting skills are lacking..But he hustles and chases loose balls..

243 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:13pm

re: #237 x-wing

You in PA?

I'd be foaming at the mouth to vote Mac if I was there... between Murtha and the bitter clingers BS, I couldn't get to the polls fast enough to ditch the Donks.

244 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:14pm

re: #234 DeafDog

A few threads back, Zombie was teasing that he had a follow-up on the Ayers/Obama connection, but he declined to give details.

Did he ever share?

He/she/it is working his/her/its socks off to finalise it - will be out tonight or tomorrow.

245 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:29pm

re: #239 Vergeltung

thanks

246 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:22:57pm

I'm actually surprised Powell never ran for President. I know what his wife said. But I went to hear him speak around '96, and what was not supposed to be a political event at all, and he sounded with every sentence as if he were running for office.

To put it in context, at the same event, Larry King and Elizabeth Dole never mentioned politics. One couldn't even tell King was left-leaning.

247 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:23:39pm

re: #235 BigJohn

re: #222 x-wing


Thanks. Yeah Rodney King.

I was in college at the time in LA County. When they made the announcement they were going to announce the verdict, my professor told us class dismissed and to make sure we stayed safe. My Dad got more than a few death threats during that time.

248 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:23:47pm

re: #205 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, you would have loved meeting the woman I met at our local GOTV meeting last night! PUMA extraordinaire! She's a grad student at Va Tech, a 30ish, anti-gun, pro-choice Clintonista working hard w/ a group of gun nuts and pro-lifers to defeat Obama.......and (hopefully) to bring back sanity to the Democrat party.
She had a rude awakening from the MSM's adulation of Obama. Now she's getting a rude awakening by finding out that the bitter and clingy are actually not monsters, but people "with more common sense than kneejerk ideology."
If Obama wins, she's says she is leaving the Dem party and will henceforth be an independent.

249 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:23:53pm

re: #236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.

* * *
YOu're right. Powell also similarly a waffler who together with his deputy at the State Department, Richard Armitage, outed Valerie Pflame and then took cover, letting Vice Pres. Dick Cheney and his assistant Scooter Libby take the rap for three years.

Powell will be much happier partying with Pflame and her dumb Joe the Ambassador Wilson, amongst the leftists, wafflers & fraggers of this Country.

250 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:24:15pm

Iowahawk

Sory if this is duplicate, but Iowahawk has his interpretation of Joe the Dumber

251 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:24:22pm

re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some one at MoveOn thinks they're being clever again:

PSA: “Voting Republican even once can have disastrous effects that last for years.”

The conduct of Obama's people, obscene and vulgar when they see McCain supporters, shading into bullying and destructive, should give anyone enough reason to vote against their candidate. Tens of thousands have seen how Obama's people act, this video is of what they are at their best. From here it gets worse. Almost every story about poor conduct from McCain supporters turns out to be a false report peddled as hearsay and traceable back to Obama's supporters. There are apparently some cases of Moby type operations of Obama supporters showing up and screaming offensive slogans. McCain people look out for that and shut personal and innapropriate acts down. Here in NY I have been careful not to associate with a marcher who wants to bring their personal issue with Fidel in as the centerpiece of the campaign. We are not here to attack "The Left" and support "The Right." We are here to serve and protect America.

252 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:24:26pm

re: #233 janmar

re: #223 Shug

Like Detroit after any sports championship

or a Raiders game

Hey Hey I'm a Raider fan. But a proud conservative, they can go together.


Same here, we won this week so I'm happy.

253 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:25:45pm

re: #103 Ben Hur

Oil as a geopolitical tool used against civilization will be finished by

THE SUN

As soon as we get off our butts and really develop solar energy in all its forms.

That's a current image, within the last few hours.

254 exredtory  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:25:49pm

Actual A-4 cockpit: [Link: www.skyhawk.org...]

The computers would mostly have been "black boxes" among the aircraft systems. Still the point is made about Obama vs McCain "skill sets." But you try telling someone that despite his supposed stupidity and slackerness, GWB actually flew F-108s, a serious handful of airplane, you just get blank looks from the libs, so reminding them of what it takes to be a naval aviator will be lost of the sort of people who think "community organizers" are the backbone of the economy.

(I have a hunch now and again that perhaps one reason why GWB slacked off on his flight hours later with the TANG was that he had a pretty good notion about what sort of a "widowmaker' a supersonic delta could be and was becoming a little leery of the things, given how one would need plenty of air time to stay proficient on them.)

I've engaged in a various number of activities involving things that fly, float and roll cross-country over the years, and one thing I notice about so many political wonk and media types (with whom I work), and that is most of them *don't do anything.* - at least nothing practical. Basic household or automotive maintenance tasks seem beyond them, and even though most of them use cars, telephones and computers they have no insight whatsoever into how the things work.

The hire Joe the Plumber, but they aren't Joe the Plumber.

And Lloyd Marcus is the sort of Afro-American who makes liberals crazy.

255 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:04pm

Heh. Double Heh. I think the Heh's are off the scale with this one from Iowahawk:

Biden: Obama Ready for Armageddon Showdown He Will Provoke

256 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:10pm

re: #242 HoosierHoops

Well as you all know after raising 5 kids with the youngest being 16 the house is to damn quiet..
He is a beautiful, brown long hair chihawa( sic )
His name is Winston and he follows the hoopster around where ever I go. Loves to play.. I'm teaching him basketball but his rebounding and shooting skills are lacking..But he hustles and chases loose balls..

Aaahhhh!
Thank you!

Brown and long-haired is nice, to start with. Chihawa? Is that a cross breed? How big is Winston?
Keep teaching him - he'll improve his shooting skills, no doubt about it!

257 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:12pm

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

258 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:26:54pm

re: #255 lawhawk

Money quote:

A spokesman for the Obama-Biden campaign later clarified the Senator's remarks, and urged reporters "not to take Senator Biden's words out of context."
259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:22pm

re: #257 MandyManners

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

Of course they're associated. They're both from Alaska. Duh!

/

260 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:23pm

re: #186 midwestgak

This goes to his use of hands in a coordinated effort with the teleprompter. Also, his use of his hands to invade personal space, exemplified during the Joe the Plumber scenario. Very tricksy.

261 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:30pm

re: #251 lifeofthemind

Just think, the little darlings will be snitching on Mommy dearest if the Obama gets elected.

262 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:38pm

re: #257 MandyManners

they are still running scared of Sarah.

263 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:27:59pm

re: #248 wolfie

Sharmuta, you would have loved meeting the woman I met at our local GOTV meeting last night! PUMA extraordinaire! She's a grad student at Va Tech, a 30ish, anti-gun, pro-choice Clintonista working hard w/ a group of gun nuts and pro-lifers to defeat Obama.......and (hopefully) to bring back sanity to the Democrat party.
She had a rude awakening from the MSM's adulation of Obama. Now she's getting a rude awakening by finding out that the bitter and clingy are actually not monsters, but people "with more common sense than kneejerk ideology."
If Obama wins, she's says she is leaving the Dem party and will henceforth be an independent.

That's exactly what we want to have happen- for moderate democrats to realize we're not the monsters the press and hard left have painted us as, as well as having the democrats return to a party that will actually represent real American values. I think it would be good for both parties if the dems return to sanity.

Thanks for that story- it really brightened my morning.

264 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:28:15pm

re: #255 lawhawk

Heh. Double Heh. I think the Heh's are off the scale with this one from Iowahawk:

Biden: Obama Ready for Armageddon Showdown He Will Provoke

India is a possibility because they have sleeper cells in all the 7-11s

ZIING!

265 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:33pm

re: #263 Sharmuta

The Democratic party needs to be replaced, ever since they voted against the 13th amendment, along party lines, in 1865.

266 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:43pm

re: #229 Ojoe

And here is the cockpit: (his computer, if you like).

267 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:48pm

re: #236 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Forget the Republican Gd... the key point is that when GHWB was wobbling on the edge about finishing the war or pulling up short, Powell advocated pulling up short.

...and then left the Kurds hung out to dry.


Agree, between Powell and the U.N. we ended up fucked on that issue. To bad cause we destroyed their military and could've walked right in. I know hind sight is 20/20, but haven't we seen enough to know what may happen?
I hope the lessons of our latest adventure sticks in the minds of our leaders.

268 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:29:48pm

There are PUMAS, Pitt Panthers and Nittany Lions prowling all over PA with their claws out.

PA is going RED.

269 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:30:11pm

re: #259 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Of course they're associated. They're both from Alaska. Duh!

/

re: #262 janmar

they are still running scared of Sarah.

I reckon it's their answer to BHO and Ayers. Weak as a kitten.

270 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:31:35pm

re: #266 joncelli

Thanks. My dad flew fighters (P-38). He said they took ALL your attention ALL the time. I cannot imagine the A4 would be different, and I think 0bama would crash one right away.

271 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:31:40pm

re: #255 lawhawk

Heh. Double Heh. I think the Heh's are off the scale with this one from Iowahawk:

Biden: Obama Ready for Armageddon Showdown He Will Provoke

SEATTLE -- Democratic Vice Presidential candidate Joe Biden promised a group of supporters Sunday that running mate Barack Obama "will absolutely 100% trigger a nuclear Armageddon kinda thing" within the first 20 minutes of his presidency, but added that "Barack Obama is looking forward to this apocalyptic opportunity to test his mettle, because he totally aced his LSATs."

Now that is funny!

272 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:32:00pm

Wow. Lots of good people working for American Values. Inspirational to say the least.

273 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:32:24pm

re: #269 MandyManners


Yeah true and the shame of it is we have a tv here at work and some of the numb brained here buy anything cnn says as gospel.

274 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:33:55pm

re: #254 exredtory

GWB actually flew F-108s,

F-102, actually. But yes, a difficult aircraft.

275 Pyrocles  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:15pm

Pfft, according to the Wall Street Journal, Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the NFL. I wonder what would happen if we ever win a Super Bowl...

re: #252 x-wing

Same here, we won this week so I'm happy.

276 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:37pm

re: #243 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

You in PA?

I'd be foaming at the mouth to vote Mac if I was there... between Murtha and the bitter clingers BS, I couldn't get to the polls fast enough to ditch the Donks.

AH, believe me, I'm counting the days and talking to anyone who will listen. I'm telling you, regular union members aint gonna vote for That One.

As for Murtha, I'll put money he will go down, from what I've been seeing and hearing.

/boo-yaa

277 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:50pm
278 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:34:52pm

re: #248 wolfie

Sharmuta, you would have loved meeting the woman I met at our local GOTV meeting last night! PUMA extraordinaire! She's a grad student at Va Tech, a 30ish, anti-gun, pro-choice Clintonista working hard w/ a group of gun nuts and pro-lifers to defeat Obama.......and (hopefully) to bring back sanity to the Democrat party.
She had a rude awakening from the MSM's adulation of Obama. Now she's getting a rude awakening by finding out that the bitter and clingy are actually not monsters, but people "with more common sense than kneejerk ideology."
If Obama wins, she's says she is leaving the Dem party and will henceforth be an independent.

I know that many Clinton supporters had their eyes opened when they found out what it was like to be on the short end of the media machine. They found out that the Republicans weren't paranoid - that 1) the media really did lie and spin for the candidate of their choice, refusing to cover stories that didn't support their agenda. And 2) the media really does attack and promote lies against the candidate not of their choice, even if it is subtle and deniable things like asking "Is Palin ready?" or "Was Palin really vetted?" over and over. Constantly posing the same question, if not out right suggesting and promoting one answer, at the very least makes the candidate "questionable."

279 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:35:32pm

re: #275 Pyrocles

you guys are supposed to be the biggest tailgaters. If that means anything.

280 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:35:56pm

re: #257 MandyManners

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

Sad, innit - all those reporters and thats all they've come up with, never mind that its been thoroughly thrashed already.

Must be horrible to be a full-blooded reporter and get to dig through the same old stuff, whereas all the juicy pieces are accumulating around B0 like gifts under a Christmas tree ... and you can't go there ...

281 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:13pm
282 mattm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:33pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

If it only covers cost, how come the better locations are more expensive?

racist

/sarc

283 just another four-letter word  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:34pm

re: #154 Charles

McCain campaign is barring some members of media from the plane -- including the New York Times.

Bully! Let 'em walk...

JAFLW

284 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:40pm

re: #270 Ojoe

Thanks. My dad flew fighters (P-38). He said they took ALL your attention ALL the time. I cannot imagine the A4 would be different, and I think 0bama would crash one right away.

"Dammit, where is the 'present' button?"

285 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:36:51pm

re: #277 jorline

Round two...Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama


I agree with them....but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct. But, I agree with them......but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct.

Does not compute....does not compute.....warning will rogers!

286 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:15pm
287 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:19pm

re: #261 vagabond trader

Just think, the little darlings will be snitching on Mommy dearest if the Obama gets elected.

Even Stalin despised the little rat who turned in his parents. Obama will be government by the recycling nazis. While at Chicago long ago and far away I served briefly in the Student Government as a representative from the Social Sciences Graduate Division. I remember how hot they were for compulsory recycling. At the time I had a job in the University's Computer User Center where I locked up after 2 AM. A little old Polish woman came around just before closing to collect the trash. She would sort all the recyclables out and then carry her load, larger than she was, off safely. She was disposing of the trash and earning a few extra pennies with the cans and bottles she had retrieved. The students wanted to put this woman out of business by forcing everything into the channel of the prefered official recycling center, which they would then subsidize. That and their refusal to collect attendance statistics for left wing events they subsidized were my main reasons for quitting.

288 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:31pm

Obama is an international crisis.

289 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:38:33pm

re: #284 Silhouette

He would probably use the "not present" button.

(ejection seat lever).

BBL

290 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:39:09pm

re: #276 x-wing

That Colonel running against Murtha looks like a stud... Hope he wins.

291 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:39:37pm

re: #275 Pyrocles

Pfft, according to the Wall Street Journal, Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the NFL. I wonder what would happen if we ever win a Super Bowl...

I hate to say this,coming from Pa. and all, but Eagle fans are the worst. The WSJ needs to stick what they know about.

292 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:39:41pm

re: #277 jorline

Round two...Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama

She doesn't say.... What an incredible, ringing endorsement.

293 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:40:28pm

re: #290 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That Colonel running against Murtha looks like a stud... Hope he wins.

Heard him on the radio last night with Steve Malzberg here in NYC... Sounded like a very impressive man... I hope he beats the hell out of Murtha...

294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:40:42pm

re: #285 DeafDog

I agree with them....but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct. But, I agree with them......but if Albright and Biden agree, it can't be correct.

Does not compute....does not compute.....warning will rogers!

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day

295 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:11pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

She doesn't say.... What an incredible, ringing endorsement.

Well, ya know, because they are testing us right now... LOL

296 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:21pm

re: #293 tfc3rid

Heard him on the radio last night with Steve Malzberg here in NYC... Sounded like a very impressive man... I hope he beats the hell out of Murtha...

Not much chance of that, unfortunately. It's a safe seat.

297 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:36pm

re: #292 Sharmuta

She doesn't say.... What an incredible, ringing endorsement.

* * *
Like McCain said about Madeleine Albright, she klinked glasses with Kim Il JOng or Kim Jong IL, and laughed watching North Korean kids dance, while millions lie about in North Korean gulags.

298 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:37pm

I got a laugh out of this: Tell Me What You See.

299 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:41:58pm

re: #254 exredtory

(I have a hunch now and again that perhaps one reason why GWB slacked off on his flight hours later with the TANG was that he had a pretty good notion about what sort of a "widowmaker' a supersonic delta could be and was becoming a little leery of the things, given how one would need plenty of air time to stay proficient on them.)

One explanation that I heard is that returning Vietnam veteran pilots were soaking up all the available flying hours to retain their flight status. And pushing NG pilots to the bottom of the list for flight time.

Also, GWB's aircraft was the F-102 and IIRC, one third of the F-102's built were lost to crashes.

300 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:10pm

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

One more reason to vote McCain/Palin 08!

301 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:14pm

re: #289 Ojoe

He would probably use the "not present" button.

(ejection seat lever).

BBL

Which is what you hit so you don't tie the world record for low altitude flight.

302 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:16pm

re: #277 jorline

Round two...Albright Agrees with Biden: Terrorists Will Test Obama

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

303 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:29pm

re: #291 x-wing

I hate to say this,coming from Pa. and all, but Eagle fans are the worst. The WSJ needs to stick what they know about.

It's not known as Philthadelphia for nothing.

304 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:31pm

Albright Agrees with Biden

She is trying to spin this major gaffe by Biden but it is just drawing more attention to the issue.

DAMAGE CONTROL IN PROGRESS.
DEMS IN PANIC MODE.
MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS.

305 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:42:54pm

re: #298 UFO TOFU

I got a laugh out of this: Tell Me What You See.

Two-legged sea horses kissing.

306 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:08pm

re: #273 janmar

Yeah true and the shame of it is we have a tv here at work and some of the numb brained here buy anything cnn says as gospel.

Any way to block that channel with the remote?

307 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:11pm

re: #303 Ackomanyuki
or the city of brotherly shove

308 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:47pm

re: #297 alegrias

This is the woman who ran after arafat. 0bama can have her endorsement!

309 Ackomanyuki  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:48pm

re: #307 janmar

or the city of brotherly shove

tru dat!

310 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:43:52pm

re: #302 MandyManners

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

LMAO...good afternoon, Mandy.

311 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:44:30pm

re: #298 UFO TOFU

Death Crab 3000! Run!

312 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:44:40pm

re: #83 tfc3rid

Come on.... Wouldn't a black president be electrifying (Colin Powell's words from earlier this year)?

Aww C'mon; everyone had their chance with Alan Keyes back in 1995. ;-)>

313 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:44:54pm

re: #290 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That Colonel running against Murtha looks like a stud... Hope he wins.


OH yeah, he's out fund raising him and ahead in the polls. We'll add Ex-Represenative to Murthas' Ex-Marine status.

/I loathe that guy.

314 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:45:23pm

re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day

Only if you happen to look at them right then and there?

315 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:45:41pm

re: #280 yma o hyd

Sad, innit - all those reporters and thats all they've come up with, never mind that its been thoroughly thrashed already.

Must be horrible to be a full-blooded reporter and get to dig through the same old stuff, whereas all the juicy pieces are accumulating around B0 like gifts under a Christmas tree ... and you can't go there ...

The talking head made a to-do about the reporter having to go all the way to Alaska to get the interview. As if CNN never went there initially to try to dig some shit up on her.

316 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:16pm

re: #310 jorline

Well, I didn't say "piss".

317 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:33pm

re: #248 wolfie

Wolfie, are you in the Blacksburg area? I have tons of cousins on my mom's side in Roanoke/Salem/Radford. Such beautiful country.

318 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:34pm

re: #298 UFO TOFU

I got a laugh out of this: Tell Me What You See.

One of the bug ships from the old video game Galaga

319 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:37pm

re: #296 joncelli

Not much chance of that, unfortunately. It's a safe seat.

We'll see.

320 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:46:45pm

re: #304 odinga

Albright Agrees with Biden

She is trying to spin this major gaffe by Biden but it is just drawing more attention to the issue.

DAMAGE CONTROL IN PROGRESS.
DEMS IN PANIC MODE.
MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS.

Albright is pulling an Ifill, just plugging her own book. What a ho.

321 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:03pm

re: #299 Son of the Black Dog
Thus the nic name "Dirt Dart"
Very Difficult aircraft to fly!

322 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:23pm

re: #300 jorline

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

One more reason to vote McCain/Palin 08!

Are they as disloyal to their country as are Americans who ask for the approval of foriegners before selecting a President? Can't recall anyone from Germany or France asking who I wanted to run their country.

323 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:26pm

re: #316 MandyManners

Well, I didn't say "piss".

Language warning...
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...
...
...
...
Only because when you rip their head off, you shit down their throat.

324 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:44pm

re: #302 MandyManners

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

Assuming they escape Fred Thompson to get to McCain. Look out, World. Fred's out there, he's pissed. and he wants a piece of you.

325 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:47pm

re: #300 jorline

World Citizens Prefer Obama to McCain by Nearly 4-to-1

One more reason to vote McCain/Palin 08!

Had a look at their map - interestingly, Mexico and the other Middle American states don't seem quite that keen on a B0 presidency, neither is Turkey, and the Indians are soo not for B0!

(And as Kiwi I'd be mightily pi$$ed off that my country was not represented in that poll, but the Aussies were!)

326 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:47:49pm

Maddie Albright ran after arafat! If that's the kind of endorsement 0bama wants- he can have it.

327 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:48:05pm

re: #304 odinga

Albright Agrees with Biden

She is trying to spin this major gaffe by Biden but it is just drawing more attention to the issue.

DAMAGE CONTROL IN PROGRESS.
DEMS IN PANIC MODE.
MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS.

That "fart" sound you hear is air escaping from the Obama Balloon.

/Hard to resist the urge to mention Bambi running off to Hawaii to hide at this moment... but I was the one suggesting that it was uncool to ascribe nefarious reasons to the sick grandma trip... but it's hard.

328 tedzilla99  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:48:09pm

I know where I'll be on Oct 26 - love this!

329 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:48:40pm

re: #38 zombie

Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

does this mean you have a new picture gallery up?

330 winston06  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:49:52pm

great photos

331 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:02pm

re: #302 MandyManners

They won't test Sen. McCain because they know he'll rip off their heads and pee down their throats.

Especially not when they know that a certain Mr Bolton is hovering in the background ...

332 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:17pm

re: #294 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Even broken clocks are correct twice a day


But two broken clocks? It's mind-numbing

333 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:22pm

So long, suckers. Millionaire hedge fund boss thanks 'idiot' traders and retires at 37

The boss of a successful US hedge fund has quit the industry with an extraordinary farewell letter dismissing his rivals as over-privileged "idiots" and thanking "stupid" traders for making him rich.

Andrew Lahde's $80m Los Angeles-based firm Lahde Capital Management in Los Angeles made a huge return last year by betting against subprime mortgages.

Yesterday the 37-year-old told his clients that he had hated the business and had only been in it for the money. And after declaring he would no longer manage money for other people, because he had enough of his own, Lahde said that instead he intended to repair his stress-damaged health; he made it clear he would not miss the financial world.

"The low-hanging fruit, ie idiots whose parents paid for prep school, Yale and then the Harvard MBA, was there for the taking," he wrote. "These people who were (often) truly not worthy of the education they received (or supposedly received) rose to the top of companies such as AIG, Bear Stearns and Lehman Brothers and all levels of our government," he said.

"All of this behaviour supporting the aristocracy only ended up making it easier for me to find people stupid enough to take the other side of my trades. God bless America."

My hats off to him. I got more respect for him than those sleazeballs who laughed their way to the bank then asked for a bailout.

334 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:25pm

re: #303 Ackomanyuki

It's not known as Philthadelphia for nothing.

LOL, so true. They are an angry bunch, and so sensitive.

335 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:44pm

re: #312 Outrider

Aww C'mon; everyone had their chance with Alan Keyes back in 1995. ;-)>

Oh yeah...and 2000. ;-)>

336 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:50:57pm

re: #318 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, that brings back memories.

337 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:03pm

re: #308 Sharmuta

This is the woman who ran after arafat. 0bama can have her endorsement!

* * *
Hezbollah already gave their endorsement!

338 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:11pm
339 GeeWiz  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:28pm

re: #262 janmar

they are still running scared of Sarah.

Sarah is just what they claim to be, but her presence exposes their lack of a genuine grasp of what the middle class is all about. Sarah Palin is the real deal and has shown that the emperor has no clothes. The Washington elite cannot allow a "newbie" from the hinterlands of Alaska to un-mask them so they proceed to eviscerate her. I applaud her, not because she has a "R" after her name but, because she is genuine and speaks to "real" values. Go Sarah!

340 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:51:38pm

Sad news today. The King of Blaxploitation, The Godfather of Rap, Rudy Ray Moore, has passed away at age 81. The world is a little less funky today.

341 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:52:47pm

re: #334 x-wing

LOL, so true. They are an angry bunch, and so sensitive.

F*ck you & the car you drive!
/

342 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:52:55pm

re: #333 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What kind of dummy paints a target bull's-eye on himself with a Marxist wealth redistributor running for POTUS?

343 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:52:59pm

re: #312 Outrider

Aww C'mon; everyone had their chance with Alan Keyes back in 1995. ;-)>

* * *
And Mr. Keyes ran in 2000, and believe it or not, this year also.

Remember Mr. Keyes had a tv show on Fox, "Alan Keyes is Making Sense"? He did give a great speech/sermon, and never sold himself as the ONE!

344 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:53:43pm

re: #315 MandyManners

The talking head made a to-do about the reporter having to go all the way to Alaska to get the interview. As if CNN never went there initially to try to dig some shit up on her.

Ooohh!
Someone had to go there again?
Aww ... diddums!

Pity she didn't run into some hungry Grizzlies or a nice wolf pack on a moose hunt.

345 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:53:45pm

Pew!

This one really stinks!

346 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:53:50pm

re: #320 odinga

Albright is pulling an Ifill, just plugging her own book. What a ho.

* * *
Ahem, that's Madame Secretary to you.

347 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:54:04pm

re: #313 x-wing

OH yeah, he's out fund raising him and ahead in the polls. We'll add Ex-Represenative to Murthas' Ex-Marine status.

/I loathe that guy.

Funny how we all got to hear about McCain's pretty much non-existent ties to the Keating 5 thanks to 0bama's mouthpieces at CNN and the New York Times, but the MSM is strangely mum on Murtha's role in Abscam.

348 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:54:08pm
349 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:55:16pm

re: #348 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]

ya, msm hacks, Al Gore, Obama skunks,

wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttthhhhhhhhhs sssssss up with the snow?

Maybe the ancestors of your Arapaho cousins smile upon your cause.

350 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:55:28pm

re: #321 reloadingisnotahobby

Thus the nic name "Dirt Dart"
Very Difficult aircraft to fly!

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

351 lifeofthemind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:55:35pm

Later folks

352 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:19pm

re: #342 OldLineTexan

What kind of dummy paints a target bull's-eye on himself with a Marxist wealth redistributor running for POTUS?

One who is moving out of the country? I do have to revise my intial appraisal though, the guy thinks Soros has good ideas for the country, so he's just a ballsy asshole.

353 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:20pm

re: #323 OldLineTexan

Ewwwwwwwwww.

354 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:32pm

hi all,, just got to work after going to see Sarah Palin at the reno convention center,, about 3000 people were there, i took a pic of my pit bull put pink lipstick on her, stuck in on the backof a MCCain/Palin sign and wrote pit bull for palin on it and SARAH saw it and said "oh how cute, thank you so much" then she grabbed it and autographed it,, so cool!

she is totally awesome! what a wonderful example of real America, Lee Greenwood was ther and sang two songs, Sarah's daughter Piper was also there,, when the crowd starting chanting USA Sarah chanted right along with us,, it was a GREAT morning!

355 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:37pm

re: #350 Son of the Black Dog

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

Word! Dog.........

356 poopeedoo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:54pm

Worth reposting from a semi-dead thread.

Beautiful, gracious, smart, feminine women who love their husbands, family and God drive the lefties NUTS! It causes their heads to spin around and spew split pea soup.

357 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:56pm

re: #350 Son of the Black Dog

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

And there it is. The US Military doesn't give the "keys" to multimillion dollar planes out based on your parentage.

358 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:56:58pm

re: #343 alegrias

* * *
And Mr. Keyes ran in 2000, and believe it or not, this year also.

Remember Mr. Keyes had a tv show on Fox, "Alan Keyes is Making Sense"? He did give a great speech/sermon, and never sold himself as the ONE!

He is a very practical man. I have agreed with almost all his views and Lord knows he certainly has much more experience than anyone currently running. His only flaw, and it is a deal breaker for most is his hard and fast rules regarding separation of Church and State. He believes the constitution is misinterpreted on that aspect. But all his other positions are straight conservative values all down the line.

359 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:03pm

re: #324 Pullus Iulius

Assuming they escape Fred Thompson to get to McCain. Look out, World. Fred's out there, he's pissed. and he wants a piece of you.

I'd hate to get an ass-chewing from him. He could make a person feel one centimeter tall.

360 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:23pm
361 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:26pm

re: #353 MandyManners

Ewwwwwwwwww.

I know, but that is the traditional form of the threat!

362 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:57:36pm

Dear HillBuzz,

> I wanted to pass along something heard Saturday at a community event.
>
> As most of you may know, Zogby International is headquartered in our neck
> of the woods in Utica. I happened to chat with a couple of people who
> work for Zogby and were quite emphatic about the recent 2-3 point Obama
> edge. They said, did not imply, that it’s even closer. The reason?
> Zobgy contractually is required to poll more Democrats than Republicans.
> The folks who passed along this intel are strong supporters of
> McCain-Palin working for the very big Democrat John Zogby. They stressed
> that the Zogby lunch table buzz is that this is a dead heat and right now
> is the time that McCain can win the election.
>
> The “spread the wealth” comment is resonating. I had some women together
> this weekend to make calls, write LTEs and make hand made signs and people
> are really energized. We CAN do this!

363 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:00pm

re: #331 yma o hyd

Especially not when they know that a certain Mr Bolton is hovering in the background ...

He'd strangle them with his mighty mustache.

364 SummerSong  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:09pm

Biden live on Fox News-

blah, blah, blah.

365 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:16pm

re: #350 Son of the Black Dog

I maintain that there is one thing in this world that you absolutely cannot fake your way through, and that your family ties and old school connections can't get you through. That thing is flying a high performance single seat jet aircraft.

GWB and John McCain have both proved that they have the right stuff.
Gore, Kerry, Obama - not so much.

* * * *

And John Kerry frags his former best friend John McCain by saying McCain uses Depends.

Too bad McCain can't wrestle Kerry anymore & show him a knuckle-sandwich--what his Navy Swiftboatmates thought Kerry deserved.

366 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:23pm

re: #354 bcgirl

I am jealous.

367 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:58:46pm

re: #341 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

F*ck you & the car you drive!
/

I really love you guys, just don't want to sit in the same stadium ;>}

//

368 RedHouseBlueState  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:59:17pm

"Obama can't land a jet on an aircraft carrier at night."

Excellent come back! A hardy round of applause!

369 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 12:59:42pm
370 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:00:24pm

re: #368 RedHouseBlueState

"Obama can't land a jet on an aircraft carrier at night."

Excellent come back! A hardy round of applause!

Racist

371 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:00:27pm

re: #369 taxfreekiller

what Lt. for life Kerry deserved.

Did kerry retire as a Lt.?

372 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:00:56pm

re: #363 MandyManners

He'd strangle them with his mighty mustache.

He has an impressive 'stache. (Spoken from one who firmly believes all men should have facial hair) ;-)>

373 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:01:30pm

re: #344 yma o hyd

Ooohh!
Someone had to go there again?
Aww ... diddums!

Pity she didn't run into some hungry Grizzlies or a nice wolf pack on a moose hunt.

I was reading a great article in the NYT last week about a funny fraternity in California that is dedicated to finding and putting plaques on Gold Rush buildings/places. Their drink is Moose Juice: bourbon and rum and heavy cream.

374 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:02:06pm

re: #241 Sharmuta

Sharm,

I am still angry. Up is down, left is right (no pun intended)....I honestly do not remember seeing our country so divided in my life. Possibly re both the Viet Nam and Iraq/Afghanistan wars, all 3 fought out of necessity, but that was not political, yet inevitably became highly politicized, and the vile anti-war movements who's members Hussein so idolizes.

I fear something akin to a very uncivil war when, pray G-d, McCain wins. His blind worshippers will not accept it, and it may very well cause the National Guard to be mobilized in far too many powder keg Hussein indoctrination camps.

Is it just me, or is this the loooooongest election anyone can recall? And also the most hate-filled on the part of the left?

If the worst happens? We will have to accept it, but start planning how to get rid of him by impeachment, but violence, for Republicans, is not even thinkable. I still cannot begin to fathom how on earth the Manchurian candidate managed to win the Demonrat nomination..I cannot abide Shrillary, and still would be sickened over it if she had won. They offered a Hobson's Choice, and should pay the price.

375 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:02:32pm

i am just so lucky

re: #366 OldLineTexan

I am jealous.

376 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:02:49pm

re: #358 Outrider

He is a very practical man. I have agreed with almost all his views and Lord knows he certainly has much more experience than anyone currently running. His only flaw, and it is a deal breaker for most is his hard and fast rules regarding separation of Church and State. He believes the constitution is misinterpreted on that aspect. But all his other positions are straight conservative values all down the line.

* * *

Too bad he is so fringe-y. Alan Keyes was William Kristol's roommate at Harvard or Princeton or wherever that editor of the Weekly Standard went to school.

377 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:03:09pm

re: #347 Fenway_Nation

Funny how we all got to hear about McCain's pretty much non-existent ties to the Keating 5 thanks to 0bama's mouthpieces at CNN and the New York Times, but the MSM is strangely mum on Murtha's role in Abscam.

Aint, I watched that video. Murtha is scum. I couldn't get over what he said.

Murtha(ad-libbing)- We'll talk about that 50 grand later.

378 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:40pm

re: #367 x-wing

I really love you guys, just don't want to sit in the same stadium ;>}

//

Well I don't blame you for that. I scared a few Chiefs fans when the Eagles played in KC a few years ago. Apparently, not all NFL franchises think that their stadiums need to have their own jails & courtroom built-in.

379 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:44pm

re: #373 MandyManners

I was reading a great article in the NYT last week about a funny fraternity in California that is dedicated to finding and putting plaques on Gold Rush buildings/places. Their drink is Moose Juice: bourbon and rum and heavy cream.

That drink - omigawd, I'm getting a hangover just reaing what it consists of!

380 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:45pm

re: #371 Nevergiveup

Did kerry retire as a Lt.?

I think Kerry was Branded after his Vietnam Senate hearings.

381 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:04:54pm

re: #316 MandyManners

Well, I didn't say "piss".

Yes, you did! ;) And there is proof right up there.

382 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:05:20pm

re: #354 bcgirl

hi all,, just got to work after going to see Sarah Palin at the reno convention center,, about 3000 people were there, i took a pic of my pit bull put pink lipstick on her, stuck in on the backof a MCCain/Palin sign and wrote pit bull for palin on it and SARAH saw it and said "oh how cute, thank you so much" then she grabbed it and autographed it,, so cool!

she is totally awesome! what a wonderful example of real America, Lee Greenwood was ther and sang two songs, Sarah's daughter Piper was also there,, when the crowd starting chanting USA Sarah chanted right along with us,, it was a GREAT morning!

You are a lucky gal! I seriously considered driving 5 hours each way to see her, but unfortunately, I have to make a living.

383 Teacake![deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:05:21pm
384 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:05:54pm

re: #381 NY Nana

Yes, you did! ;) And there is proof right up there.

I'm caught!

385 alegrias[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:06:32pm
386 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:06:34pm

re: #362 Sharmuta

Dear HillBuzz,


> I wanted to pass along something heard Saturday at a community event.
>
> As most of you may know, Zogby International is headquartered in our neck
> of the woods in Utica. I happened to chat with a couple of people who
> work for Zogby and were quite emphatic about the recent 2-3 point Obama
> edge. They said, did not imply, that it’s even closer. The reason?
> Zobgy contractually is required to poll more Democrats than Republicans.
> The folks who passed along this intel are strong supporters of
> McCain-Palin working for the very big Democrat John Zogby. They stressed
> that the Zogby lunch table buzz is that this is a dead heat and right now
> is the time that McCain can win the election.
>
> The “spread the wealth” comment is resonating. I had some women together
> this weekend to make calls, write LTEs and make hand made signs and people
> are really energized. We CAN do this!


Very interesting, Shar. Makes me wonder about the other polls taken as well, and how they might be skewed.

I read this comment on Hillbuzz in the article that struck me as interesting,

Karen Says:
October 21, 2008 at 10:47 am
I am part of the Zogby polling group here in Illinois. I would be in the group designated as a Democrat. I put Hillary as my Presidential choice until she dropped out and then chose undecided. The last poll that Zogby sent me I switched to McCain. For the first time in years of participating in polling for them, I received a call from Zogby wanting to verify my vote in that poll. I found that really interesting. Not sure what it means. I secretly was hoping maybe Obama was dropping in the polls here in Illinois but probably not.

They call the same people over and over again?

387 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:06:38pm
388 Dave the.....  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:07:33pm
Countrymen, I report back from the front lines, where I have been engaging in Great Battle against the fearsome Hippie With a Grubby Pencil in 1974 who hath in his ignorance nearly destroyed evidence of dastardly communism and treachery; but fear not, for I have just defeated him! And great showers of Evidence did become manifest, and woe shall be unto The One.

Zombie, not sure what is up, but recall how Kerry's book from circa 1974 suddenly dissappeared in 2004? It seems there were those out there who didn't want that in the public.

389 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:08:18pm

re: #385 alegrias

Charles has said to knock this off (recently). It's not relevant now.

Exactly, it's a bunch of BS. The reason I suspect BHO doesn't want his birth certificate out has to do with his father's ethnicity on the certificate. Absolutely nothing do to with his citizenship status.

390 poopeedoo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:12pm

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

If you don't like the ideas of others, head to the streets with your own idea. Don't sit back and wait for them to get back to you.

391 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:14pm
392 Dave the.....  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:23pm
According to the first article, obama is still an Indonesian citizen, so why isn't this an issue?

Honestly, the general public really doesn't care. I think it's a non-issue with 14 days to go.

Those 4% of voters who will decide this election are concerned with national security and economic issues. Little else.

393 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:24pm

re: #371 Nevergiveup

Did kerry retire as a Lt.?

No, he ETS'd as a Lt.

/still like to know what was on his original Discharge, and why Jimmah issued him another one.

394 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:09:33pm

re: #275 Pyrocles

Pfft, according to the Wall Street Journal, Bills fans are the worst behaved fans in the NFL. I wonder what would happen if we ever win a Super Bowl...


What does the Wall Street Journal know? When Brown fans attend here they are by far the worst behaved fans I have ever encountered..period..amen..end of story..
/ Do you hear that? Some Cleveland lizards' heads just exploded.

395 nigella  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:10:19pm

Deaf dog, you ain't kidding on that one. Don't know how they weighted their poll, but it stunk! I do believe McCain is behind, but not by that much! And Sarah Palin is a drag on the ticket with huge unfavorables? Tell that to the 22,000 that saw her in Colorado.

396 yma o hyd  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:11:46pm

Gotta go, Lizards, seeya tomottow, and KBO!

397 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:11:53pm

re: #378 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Well I don't blame you for that. I scared a few Chiefs fans when the Eagles played in KC a few years ago. Apparently, not all NFL franchises think that their stadiums need to have their own jails & courtroom built-in.

You're creating jobs, how entrepenurial(sp) of you.

/

398 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:11:55pm

re: #103 Ben Hur

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

Drill here. Drill now. Tell the bearded freak to f*ck himself.

Oh, and this (a minor correction to the Fox News piece):

Venezuela's capitalism-bashing Chavez has used his country's oil windfall to buy Russian weapons, going as far as to let the Russian navy practice in its waters. Russia reportedly is also helping Venezuela develop nuclear power.

Chavez said on Saturday that oil at $80 to $90 a barrel would be good enough to keep Venezuela going, Reuters reported, but analysts say the country Chavez has billions stashed away in Swiss bank accounts and will be able to withstand a price drop.

399 sharp_discernment  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:12pm

Another liberal rant in the name of comedy....
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

400 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:15pm

Well, at least some headway being made (From Milwaukee Journal Sentinel):

Double voter sentenced to 9 months

Ronald Hoppus, who pleaded no contest to voting twice in the November 2007 election, has been sentenced to serve nine months in the House of Correction.

Hoppus, 50, of the 2800 block of S. 71st St., was convicted in July of a single felony count of election fraud. He won't be able to vote in this year's election.

Hoppus, who will have work release privileges during his term, was sentenced Friday by Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Thomas Donegan.

401 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:21pm

re: #376 alegrias

* * *

Too bad he is so fringe-y. Alan Keyes was William Kristol's roommate at Harvard or Princeton or wherever that editor of the Weekly Standard went to school.

Mainstream he is not. To bad he can;t moderate his position on religion.

402 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:38pm

Amazing New Audio Surfaces... Ayers Says Everyone In His Office Knew He Was Terrorist-Marxist

Plus see the new video [on the same page], Bill Ayers says in 2002 that everyone he worked with knew he was a radical Marxist- that he didn't hide anything:

Also, from the video you can tell that the former underground terrorist is still a raging anti-Semitic radical and completely nuts.

403 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:12:53pm
404 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:13:10pm

re: #395 nigella

Lets hope this is more the way it is.

405 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:13:17pm

re: #386 Honorary Yooper

They call the same people over and over again?

Years ago, I had a friend who worked for the local paper's polling division, and yes- they call the same people over and over again. Random Sample My Ass.

406 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:13:39pm

re: #404 janmar


[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

lets try that again.

407 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:14:34pm

re: #317 doppelganglander

Wolfie, are you in the Blacksburg area? I have tons of cousins on my mom's side in Roanoke/Salem/Radford. Such beautiful country.

Yes, I am and yes, it is! :)

408 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:14:38pm

re: #400 Creeping Eruption

Gee, I wonder what party he voted for twice.

409 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:14:54pm

re: #393 x-wing

No, he ETS'd as a Lt.

/still like to know what was on his original Discharge, and why Jimmah issued him another one.

"Negotiating" on his own with North Vietnam in Paris while still a reservist got him a "dishonorable", that much is a certainty.

410 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:15:28pm

re: #296 joncelli

You must be: Not a racist, and not a Redneck. Or...not old enough to vote?

/

411 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:15:41pm
412 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:15:45pm

The more I think about this test thingy (& no doubt it will happen), the more I believe that it will be Taiwan.

Just far enough out of reach that Obama will not be able to do a thing about it. But significant enough to demonstrate what a useless paper tiger he will be on the world stage.

(Posted prior on the Bolton thread)

413 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:15:55pm

Hey Hoopster...you'll love this.

The Best Commercial Ever

414 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:16:00pm

re: #405 Sharmuta

Years ago, I had a friend who worked for the local paper's polling division, and yes- they call the same people over and over again. Random Sample My Ass.

Maybe it is random in that they keep trying random people until the finally find the results they like?

/

415 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:16:04pm

re: #313 x-wing

OH yeah, he's out fund raising him and ahead in the polls. We'll add Ex-Represenative to Murthas' Ex-Marine status.

/I loathe that guy.

My son's a marine and loathes him. My other son loathes him on principal.

416 Throbert McGee  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:16:09pm

I was just exchanging email with my ex in NYC; he and his guy are coming down to DC for the inaugural -- assuming it's an Obama inaugural, that is.

Suffice to say they've had their hotel (way outside the Beltway) booked for months, but I'm guessing that no matter what happens on Nov 4, there's going to be a huge wave of cancelled reservations on Nov 5 -- followed by people from the other party immediately snatching up the vacancies!

417 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:16:41pm

re: #391 taxfreekiller

Kerry never got one promotion in his life, in fact after he was kicked out of the Navy by Nixon, given a dishonorable discharge,he went lower and is now second to Ted Kennedy in the Democrat party in Mass., how low can you go.?

does that make him the troll under the bridge?

418 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:17:17pm

re: #410 Cap'n DOC

Not in that district. Or a racist or redneck, for that matter.

419 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:18:16pm

re: #372 Outrider

He has an impressive 'stache. (Spoken from one who firmly believes all men should have facial hair) ;-)>

Do nose & ear tufts count?

420 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:18:59pm

re: #416 Throbert McGee

Um, has your ex ever been to an inaugural? It sounds glamourous - it isn't, believe me.

421 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:20:19pm

re: #409 Spiny Norman

"Negotiating" on his own with North Vietnam in Paris while still a reservist got him a "dishonorable", that much is a certainty.

* * *
Marrying Republican widows got Kerry "Richest Man in the Senate" status--which he grew to like better than negotiating with Viet Cong.

422 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:20:27pm

re: #409 Spiny Norman

"Negotiating" on his own with North Vietnam in Paris while still a reservist got him a "dishonorable", that much is a certainty.

O.K. do you have a link. I know he deserved it,but never saw the Discharge.

It's not that I don't believe you, I'd like to share it with my friends.

423 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:20:39pm

re: #372 Outrider

re: #363 MandyManners

re: #331 yma o hyd
Especially not when they know that a certain Mr Bolton is hovering in the background ...

He'd strangle them with his mighty mustache.

He has an impressive 'stache. (Spoken from one who firmly believes all men should have facial hair) ;-)>

It's name is "Regis", in case you didn't know.

/long-running Protein Wisdom gag

424 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:20:49pm

re: #420 wahabicorridor

Yes, crowded, boring, and cold if my source is any indication.

425 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:21:37pm

re: #419 Kenneth

Do nose & ear tufts count?

They should. lol

426 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:21:47pm

Did Zombie mention when the next update will be? That was quite a teaser it left a couple hours ago...

427 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:22:24pm

re: #426 Kenneth

Did Zombie mention when the next update will be? That was quite a teaser it left a couple hours ago...

Late tonight or tomorrow morning.

428 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:23:00pm

re: #413 jorline

Hey Hoopster...you'll love this.

The Best Commercial Ever

That is to damn funny!

Seen this one?

429 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:23:04pm

Gawd, I want Murtha to lose as much as I want the Obama to.How the hey do people who openly voice their disdain for the constituency continue to be elected. Wake up!

430 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:23:12pm

re: #420 wahabicorridor

Um, has your ex ever been to an inaugural? It sounds glamourous - it isn't, believe me.

* * *
Women in strappy sandals stuck in 3" frozen slush when they stepped out of their limousines on their way to dance with the new President...it's a tough job but someone has to do it!

431 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:23:20pm

re: #258 lawhawk

Sounds like Biden's saying that if we elect Obama, we're screwed. that certainly makes me want to vote for the Messiah.

432 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:23:37pm

re: #412 unreconstructed rebel

The more I think about this test thingy (& no doubt it will happen), the more I believe that it will be Taiwan.

Just far enough out of reach that Obama will not be able to do a thing about it. But significant enough to demonstrate what a useless paper tiger he will be on the world stage.

(Posted prior on the Bolton thread)

Taiwan is bringing in too many $$$ to the Chinese. The Chicoms will be very pissed off at ol kim il if he messes that much with their economy. They will demolish noko and the men (Marines) on the 38th will be in more danger than those in Afghanistan or Iraq. If the little pisser goes in at all, it will be Seoul that gets it. It will be more kazakhstan, Ethiopia, Sudan, Nigeria, or Ethiopia. small push at first, then the big hit when bambi takes forever to respond.

433 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:24:00pm

OT: An interesting article regarding opposition to Heller (D.C. gun ban case) from the right: Heller elicits rebuke from the right

434 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:24:22pm

re: #422 x-wing

O.K. do you have a link. I know he deserved it,but never saw the Discharge.

It's not that I don't believe you, I'd like to share it with my friends.

No, unfortunately, and because of Carter's "pardon" there may never be concrete evidence one way or the other. But it was discussed here at great length in 2004 and many former military commenters were absolutely convinced that was the case.

435 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:24:58pm

re: #424 joncelli

Yes, crowded, boring, and cold if my source is any indication.


The most fun I had all evening: My beaded stilletoes were killing me so I went into the ladies room to take them off and massage my feet. Guess who I met in there? Every high-end professional call girl from both coasts and Vegas. They were a hoot. After about half an hour of having great fun with them, some woman came in asking for me bacause my husband was getting worried. So I brought some of them out to dance with him. You should have seen his face when I told him on the way home!

436 dolfan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:25:06pm

re: #257 MandyManners

CNN is still spreading the lie that Palin is associated with the AIP.

They're going to get thrown off the plane, too.

437 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:25:10pm

re: #428 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That is to damn funny!

Seen this one?

That's funny as well...watch this.

438 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:25:19pm

About the MSM...and in particular CNN Headline News. Glenn Beck has signed a contract with Fox News...But, I'm wondering was Glenn Beck's parting amiable? or was there a little push by CNN? Beck's program is Off the Air...Yanked... and just a little over two weeks left in the election? Would Beck have really done this? I'm wondering...There have been concerted Internet campaigns in the past to get Glenn Beck fired (they're all over the Internet). And Beck was the only CNN guy who was telling the truth -- especially about Barack Obama. Beck said things such as (oct. 16): "An Obama victory would give Democrats a monopoly in Washington. That`s not just scary; it`s un-American. And it`s probably around the corner." did Beck's unrelenting honesty mean he got the axe? Did he ruffle feathers at CNN -- that bastion of Ultra Leftist Liars and Peddlers of Crap? Any, just curious...(I find the timing of this suspect.)

439 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:25:25pm

re: #429 vagabond trader

Gawd, I want Murtha to lose as much as I want the Obama to.How the hey do people who openly voice their disdain for the constituency continue to be elected. Wake up!

* * *
Pennsylvania needs another Palin insurgent to run against this whale & harpoon his fat porkbarrelly underbelly. Like Sarah beat her porky governor predecessor Murkowski.

440 Shug  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:25:28pm

re: #431 Iron Fist

Sounds like Biden's saying that if we elect Obama,


For the first time ...in my adult...lifetime...I'm in agreement with Biden

441 Eowyn2  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:25:38pm

re: #421 alegrias

* * *
Marrying Republican widows got Kerry "Richest Man in the Senate" status--which he grew to like better than negotiating with Viet Cong.

so much for a the whole 'man of the peoples' meme.

442 Timbre  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:26:21pm

VOTED! McCain/Palin, and a lot of Libertarians in other races.

443 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:26:38pm

re: #438 J.S.
I'm surprised Lou Dobbs is still there.

444 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:26:50pm

re: #410 Cap'n DOC

You must be: Not a racist, and not a Redneck. Or...not old enough to vote?

/


I'd like to know where she is from before I draw a conclusion. Bush did come within 2% of taking Murthas district in 2004.

They are 95% white. And I'll be damned,reguardless of party, I'd vote for a guy that called me a racist or a redneck

445 jamgarr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:26:57pm

re: #406 janmar

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

lets try that again.

Are we related?

446 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:27:25pm

re: #435 wahabicorridor

Bwahaha! I was thinking of the inaugural parade, actually, but that's pretty damn funny!

447 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:27:32pm

re: #433 Creeping Eruption

OT: An interesting article regarding opposition to Heller (D.C. gun ban case) from the right: Heller elicits rebuke from the right

That's quite a bit of a reach (being Reagan appointees makes them "right-wing"), but that IS the NY Slimes.

448 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:27:48pm

re: #423 Spiny Norman

It's name is "Regis", in case you didn't know.

/long-running Protein Wisdom gag

Stragely enough I didn't. ;-)> Naming your beard; what an idea. Guess I'll name mine zz (after the band ZZTop)

449 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:27:57pm

re: #438 J.S.

I read that Beck's ratings were very high, so my guess is that he left of his own accord.

450 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:28:16pm

re: #438 J.S.

When did this happen? Can they just pull a contract out from under a person?

451 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:28:23pm

I am sure I will get dinged down for this, and I am now in Charles camp that these do not exist, but API reports it is in negotiations with Fox to release the "Michelle tapes". For what it is worth (probably zero) here is their statement from their site:

----

API has an ongoing discussion with FOX NEWS on the best way forward in the process of releasing Michelle Obama tapes to the American people.

API hopes the negotiation will be completed as soon as possible so that the tapes can be made available to FOX NEWS in the next few days and specifically before the voting day - the 4th of November.

API will make use of Legal Representation in the US when finalising the hand-over of the tapes and on any legal matters that may arise after the contents of the tapes become public.

We want to thank all our readers - those who have managed to be patient and also those who have exhibited total impatience. We assure them that an agreement will be reached soon between API and FOX NEWS one way or another, so that API fulfills the promise it gave to the readers.

The important thing we want the readers to know is how the tapes will be handled once it finally leaves API’s custody. API has confidence in FOX NEWS and will allow them to decide whether the tapes will be aired in full, edited or unedited. Once the tapes are released to FOX NEWS as per agreement that will be arrived at between the parties, API believes that FOX NEWS is competent enough to decide on how to proceed in handling the tapes because - better than us in API - they know what is best for the American listeners.

Some may not understand why this has taken long to accomplish. Sensitive issues requires careful steps so that nobody gets hurt in the process. People have questioned why the delay. API wanted to take time and make a good choice on the way forward and we can now happily say we are on the right track and hopefully you do not have to wait for long before your wishes are fulfilled.

Now that the release of the tapes is imminent, as soon as an agreement is reached, API hopes that those who finally gets access to its contents will use them wisely, in a way that brings the American people closer to one another despite their political allienation and to be above racial behaviour and work together for a better United American Nation. API does not wish to see the information from the tapes being misused by those who may wish to satisfy their own interests and achieve a particular aim.

The release of the tapes will take place without costs to any one. The negotiation between API and FOX NEWS bears no sign of money involved and that has been API’s wish all along.

452 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:28:26pm

re: #437 jorline

That's funny as well...watch this.


I'll watch them when I get home at 5pm today..
Thanks for the links!

453 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:28:43pm

re: #443 janmar

I agree. I'm afraid that Dobbs may be next on the list...(Dobbs was filling in Glenn Beck's time spot last night on CNN Headline News...again, it's curious...I didn't check to see if Dobbs is still on CNN at his regular time.)

454 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:28:43pm

re: #395 nigella

Deaf dog, you ain't kidding on that one. Don't know how they weighted their poll, but it stunk! I do believe McCain is behind, but not by that much! And Sarah Palin is a drag on the ticket with huge unfavorables? Tell that to the 22,000 that saw her in Colorado.


Agreed. Based on historical accuracy, only trust Zogby & Rasmussen.

Even there, I can't feel certain about anything.

455 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:28:58pm

thank goodness i have vacation time left i used it for good, she was worth it
re: #382 doppelganglander

You are a lucky gal! I seriously considered driving 5 hours each way to see her, but unfortunately, I have to make a living.

456 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:29:17pm

Will someone please explain this early voting? Is it absentee ballot or some new innovation?

457 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:29:38pm

re: #438 J.S.

CNN shitcans their token conservative w/two weeks before election day? Something tells me this wasn't Beck's idea....

458 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:30:01pm

re: #447 Spiny Norman

That's quite a bit of a reach (being Reagan appointees makes them "right-wing"), but that IS the NY Slimes.

The article was talking about the judges who criticized it, they are fairly conservative, not the ones on the SCOTUS.

459 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:30:35pm

re: #427 jorline

Thanks! I can feel the tingle up my leg already!

460 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:30:57pm

re: #448 Outrider

re: #423 Spiny Norman
It's name is "Regis", in case you didn't know.

/long-running Protein Wisdom gag

Stragely enough I didn't. ;-)> Naming your beard; what an idea. Guess I'll name mine zz (after the band ZZTop)

Bolton didn't name his mustache, Jeff Goldstein did (and his readers loved it).

461 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:31:02pm

re: #433 Creeping Eruption

OT: An interesting article regarding opposition to Heller (D.C. gun ban case) from the right: Heller elicits rebuke from the right

I don't see in what way the Heller decision was 'intervention', nor do I take anyone seriously who thinks that the 2nd Amendment is about a "collective" Right. Nor do I remotely agree that for most of the 20th century that it was widely understood to be a collective right by the legislature, the judiciary, nor the electorate, as the article attests.

462 UFO TOFU  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:31:10pm

re: #435 wahabicorridor

Every high-end professional call girl from both coasts and Vegas.


Those were really economic indicators.

463 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:31:11pm

re: #457 Fenway_Nation

CNN shitcans their token conservative w/two weeks before election day? Something tells me this wasn't Beck's idea....


Something tells me Beck just doubled his salary.. Must have had a little chat with Greta.

464 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:31:47pm

re: #384 MandyManners

Well, since you so rarely ever say anything like that, we'll just let it go. *cough* *cough*

Bet I have a bigger 'special' vocabulary than you, and had my mouth washed out with soap more times!

465 Timbre  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:31:55pm

re: #456 vagabond trader

Will someone please explain this early voting? Is it absentee ballot or some new innovation?

Here in Texas, it is just like Election Day. Only 15 days earlier.

466 Yankee Sojourner  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:32:00pm

Whenever those in the McCain camp mention Obama's clinging-to-guns-and-religion gaffe, I think they need to drive home the fact Senator Government blurted this out at the Ghetty mansion in Marin County on 'Billionaires Row' -- not just in "San Francisco."

How many billionaires, millionaires, heirs and heiresses hands do you think he shook or lifted a glass in toast with saying, "Thank you for your donation. Here's to spreading your great-granddaddy's old money around and raising your taxes."

The same week Michelle Obama was on the east coast in NC addressing a small crowd of school mothers saying words to this effect: Some folks are going to have to "give up a bigger piece of their pie."

I'd like to know what Obama said to the Ghetty audience about their pie.

467 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:32:30pm

re: #457 Fenway_Nation

That's what I'm thinking...(In Glenn Beck's newsletter, he also gave an extremely perfunctory note about having worked with those fine folks at CNN Headline News, etc...)

468 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:32:30pm

re: #445 jamgarr

hey if you mess with that name jamgarr a little maybe!

469 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:32:51pm

check this out,, right now in my office a client of ours saw my autograph picture from Sarah Palin, she started out talking bad about sarah but then went on about the negative ads, then she said that she is a registerd demoncrat but that she votes for whomever she wants, and she would have voted for hillary and was leaning towards obamma untill last night when the obamotons kept calling and then left a note at her doorstep asking her to go to the Sarah Palin rally today and hold a negative nasty mean sign,, she will now vote for Mc Cain/Palin horray for the obamatons

470 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:32:54pm

re: #433 Creeping Eruption

OT: An interesting article regarding opposition to Heller (D.C. gun ban case) from the right: Heller elicits rebuke from the right

That's such an empty response that it ignores two key issues from Heller - (1) Scalia limited Heller to apply only to the fed and not states; and (2) the collective rights theory is dead as all 9 members of the court adhere to the individual right to bear arms.

With that in mind, that critique falls flat on its face.

471 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:33:18pm

re: #458 Creeping Eruption

The article was talking about the judges who criticized it, they are fairly conservative, not the ones on the SCOTUS.

I realize that: the judges they are quoting are Reagan appointees. It said so in the article and, in context, that appears to be what the Times is basing their "right-wing" description on.

472 kansas  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:33:37pm

re: #456 vagabond trader

Will someone please explain this early voting? Is it absentee ballot or some new innovation?

Gives the Democrats more time to cheat. I just donated $100 to Palin/McCain. Anybody have any news on where I can attend a Joe Biden rally? Heh.

473 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:33:39pm

re: #402 odinga

Amazing New Audio Surfaces... Ayers Says Everyone In His Office Knew He Was Terrorist-Marxist

Plus see the new video [on the same page], Bill Ayers says in 2002 that everyone he worked with knew he was a radical Marxist- that he didn't hide anything:

Also, from the video you can tell that the former underground terrorist is still a raging anti-Semitic radical and completely nuts.

That's pretty neat, but I doubt it will have any more effect than anything else about Ayers has had thus far. The only thing that might work would be if Ayers actually went on national television and said he supports Obama because he knows Obama will finish what the Weathermen started. And I'm pretty sure neither of them are that stupid.

474 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:33:41pm

re: #434 Spiny Norman

No, unfortunately, and because of Carter's "pardon" there may never be concrete evidence one way or the other. But it was discussed here at great length in 2004 and many former military commenters were absolutely convinced that was the case.


As former Military I'd agree, but I was young and didn't know how things worked back then (I was in Elementary school) with the draft and all.

475 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:33:59pm

re: #451 Shr_Nfr

No down ding here, Shr...but I still don't believe the story.

476 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:34:13pm

re: #432 Eowyn2

Taiwan is bringing in too many $$$ to the Chinese. The Chicoms will be very pissed off at ol kim il if he messes that much with their economy. They will demolish noko and the men (Marines) on the 38th will be in more danger than those in Afghanistan or Iraq. If the little pisser goes in at all, it will be Seoul that gets it. It will be more kazakhstan, Ethiopia, Sudan, Nigeria, or Ethiopia. small push at first, then the big hit when bambi takes forever to respond.

I understand you agree that it probably will be low hanging fruit, but out of our reach. I think he will be teased a lot, but in a way that does not rile up American patriotism. If they (& I am not too sure who they are just yet) were to strike the US mainland, the people would put aside our differences & coalesce in spite of our Dear Leader.

I just cannot imagine The One doing anything at all about another Kuwait.

477 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:34:42pm

re: #462 UFO TOFU

Those were really economic indicators.

heh. Well, all I know is that they were all drop dead beautiful - and really, really nice. (This was the inauguration for the first Clinton admin).

478 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:35:24pm

re: #475 jorline

I agree -- seeing (in this case) is believing, Or "we'll believe it when we see it."

479 sandspur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:35:48pm

I would like to see a Sen. McCain ad make the point that Americans are the most generous people on earth.
Obama's method of "spreading the wealth" robs us of our right to decide who is deserving of the wealth of our labors.

/just got here, so am heading upthread to catch up

480 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:36:27pm

re: #209 Silhouette

Great post.

THanks.

481 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:36:37pm

We still have a ways to go in Afghanistan, concerning women's rights.

482 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:36:39pm

re: #478 J.S.

I agree -- seeing (in this case) is believing, Or "we'll believe it when we see it."

agree, but there's always HOPE...lol

483 Throbert McGee  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:37:00pm

re: #420 wahabicorridor

Um, has your ex ever been to an inaugural? It sounds glamourous - it isn't, believe me.

If by "not glamourous" you mean wall-to-wall rental tuxedoes, rubbery chicken entrees, and self-congratulatory bloviating, then believe me, my ex has been there, done that, and understands what he's in for. (I know he's never been to an actual inaugural, but he's been to political "galas.")

484 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:37:09pm

re: #456 vagabond trader

Will someone please explain this early voting? Is it absentee ballot or some new innovation?

In some states, it can be done with an absentee ballot......In Nebraska, voters can go to a voters' registration office and vote with a machine (electronically) as well (either/or).

485 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:37:21pm

How much more evidence do we need that the media is in the tank for Obama that even Dan Rather notes that if Palin said what Biden did, it would be above the fold front page top news.

486 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:37:22pm

re: #469 bcgirl

she will now vote for Mc Cain/Palin horray for the obamatons

sheesh. That is the basis for her vote? I use Tarot cards myself.

487 jamgarr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:37:34pm

re: #468 janmar

hey if you mess with that name jamgarr a little maybe!

Let's keep it platonic for now.

488 Globular Cluster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:37:57pm

So what are people making of the latest Pew poll, which puts Obama ahead 53-32? It cannot be correct. Pulling for Obama much?

489 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:38:54pm

here's something to chew on no pun intended.
[Link: www.myfoxdetroit.com...]

490 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:03pm

re: #457 Fenway_Nation

Fox hired him...but for the 5 PM spot. As soon as it was noted, they kicked Beck off the air.

IIRC, Lou Dobbs has replaced him. Watch the ratings go down the drain!

491 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:07pm

re: #418 joncelli

LOL. I didn't think so.

492 unreconstructed rebel  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:09pm

re: #456 vagabond trader

Will someone please explain this early voting? Is it absentee ballot or some new innovation?

I am struggling with this one too. Apparently, early voting is now being done in the Commonwealth of Virginia & it has nothing to do with being absent on the big day.

493 jorline  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:15pm

re: #488 Globular Cluster

So what are people making of the latest Pew poll, which puts Obama ahead 53-32? It cannot be correct. Pulling for Obama much?

Say's it all...something stinks!

494 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:21pm

re: #478 J.S.

I agree -- seeing (in this case) is believing, Or "we'll believe it when we see it."


What is there to negotiate if money isn't involved..They could just have FED-EX'd the tape 90 days ago to Fox news.
End of Story...
That memo was probably ghost written by Larry Johnson..

495 Outrider  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:40pm

re: #484 eschew_obfuscation

In some states, it can be done with an absentee ballot......In Nebraska, voters can go to a voters' registration office and vote with a machine (electronically) as well (either/or).

Georgia started early vote casting on the 20th. Polls were mobbed. Judging by bumper stickers, McCain voters were predominate here.

496 wahabicorridor  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:39:53pm

re: #483 Throbert McGee

If by "not glamourous" you mean wall-to-wall rental tuxedoes, rubbery chicken entrees, and self-congratulatory bloviating, then believe me, my ex has been there, done that, and understands what he's in for. (I know he's never been to an actual inaugural, but he's been to political "galas.")

Then, again, I doubt your ex would be wearing anything like those beaded high heels I wore.......not to mention the scaffolding I was wearing under that gown.

:)


gotta go - Fat Beagle needs to be walked

497 vagabond trader  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:40:01pm

re: #484 eschew_obfuscation

Thank you.

498 Globular Cluster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:40:08pm

re: #485 lawhawk

How much more evidence do we need that the media is in the tank for Obama that even Dan Rather notes that if Palin said what Biden did, it would be above the fold front page top news.

CBS threw Rather under the bus. Now the rest of the MSM will do the same.

499 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:40:14pm

OT,

Got something in my email today, wish I could share with you. Everyone here know Ken Blackwell? Great guy

"Act Now to Protect Your Vote — and America's Future

The upcoming elections are the most critical in our nation's recent history. It will be disastrous if the results of those elections are tainted by fraud — as now being reported by the news media. Free and fair elections are the basis of our democratic institutions. They must not be allowed to be influenced by criminals intent on subverting not only our votes but our freedoms as well.

Please watch this video from former Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell — and go to DefendMyVote.com to sign our petition. It is crucial that all Americans who believe in fairness and justice stand up and be counted on this issue ... to make sure that our votes will be counted in November."

American Civil Rights Union (good guys)
[Link: acru.advomation.com...]

500 snopercod  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:40:47pm

The YouTube video of "Obama's Plan to Disarm America" in Charles' thread has been pulled.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

501 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:41:03pm

re: #488 Globular Cluster

So what are people making of the latest Pew poll, which puts Obama ahead 53-32? It cannot be correct. Pulling for Obama much?

It makes me nervous, but it is obviously so far our of line with the others that it's whacked.

The only poll that matters is Nov. 4

502 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:41:10pm

re: #490 NY Nana

I cannot believe Dobbs is able to say what he says on cnn as it is. giving him more time to be almost fair! How can we have this on a semi network. He will either run for office in my state soon or FNC here he comes.

503 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:42:01pm

i have not seen it but i think it is a bunch of "pew"

re: #488 Globular Cluster

So what are people making of the latest Pew poll, which puts Obama ahead 53-32? It cannot be correct. Pulling for Obama much?

504 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:43:03pm

re: #501 DeafDog

It's probably a fluke. None of the other polls are showing that much difference. I still think Obama will win big but not that big.

505 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:45:21pm

re: #490 NY Nana

yeah, but what's odd about this is that Beck won't be at Fox News until sometime in the Spring. Ok? I'm not really buying the sequence of events as it's been relayed or how things supposedly transpired. I'm thinking -- Beck was saying things on air which really, really riled the brass at CNN. They said, all right, you either shape up or ship out...that is, tone it down...and, while you're at it, say some nice things about The Miracle Worker, etc. Beck told them to stick it. After getting the heat from the Bosses, Beck looked elsewhere -- signed a Fox contract for next Spring. The CNN Headline News when they found out, said, Ok, you're off the air...Program yanked. That's my scenario...It wasn't a happy parting...

506 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:46:52pm

re: #499 alegrias

Ohio would not be having the problems it's having now if Ken Blackwell were still Secretary of State. I would love to see him run for higher office.

507 Arkay  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:46:58pm

re: #130 Arkay

You just told us about the sign bounty. Would you mind telling the authorities? Maybe they could check into that.
>

I don't have "standing to sue." I.e., the signs aren't mine, so reporting what I heard is pointless. (The term is "hearsay.")

My question: Why haven't THEY told the authorities? (We know why they haven't said anything to the newspapers.)

508 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:47:05pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

re: #501 DeafDog

It makes me nervous, but it is obviously so far our of line with the others that it's whacked.

The only poll that matters is Nov. 4

509 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:47:32pm

re: #433 Creeping Eruption

OT: An interesting article regarding opposition to Heller (D.C. gun ban case) from the right: Heller elicits rebuke from the right

Some apologists here at LGF for activist judges have accused those opposing judicial activism of having changing morals - meaning that if the judicial judgment was something with which they AGREED, they'd be fine with judicial activism.

Not being able to mind-read, like the person making the accusation, I cannot speak for others, but as for me, the accusation is false.

That in mind, I read the article open to arguments that somehow, although I support the ban being struck down, the judicial decision was wrong, placing in the hands of the fed what should be decisions by the state.

But they lost me with the sentence trying to compare Heller with Roe v. Wade

The more conservative justices found an individual right (to guns in the 2nd Amendment) and struck down parts of a District of Columbia gun control law.

Found?

The Roe v Wade judges criticized for "finding" a right that was never written out in the Constitution. Abortion is not mentioned. I understand that many rights aren't specifically mentioned, and this isn't a debate on abortion, but the comparison to bearing arms is wrothy of ridicule. One doesn't need to "find" unwritten rights to gun ownership in the Constititution. The text is there. Unless one believes, as many do, that in that single section "the people" doesn't mean all of the people like it does everywhere else in the Constitution.

I am aware that on this reasonable people disagree, but in that same logic, reasonable people firmly believe that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" means that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. One doesn't have to "find" (as in see something that isn't there) the part in italics hidden somewhere in the text bolded.

One question, based on this, to any lizard who knows:

Judge Wilkinson’s basic critique is that the majority, like that in Roe, used an ambiguous text to impose its policy preference on the nation, at great cost to the democratic process and to local values.

Did the people of DC vote for the gun ban?

510 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:47:37pm

re: #505 J.S.

Glenn Beck has had some choice things to say about the bias at CNN, on the air. I can't imagine that went over well with his bosses.

511 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:47:37pm

re: #456 vagabond trader

I have a feeling that this was done by the Demonrats. It sucks, and it probably should never have been allowed. There is just no way that there can be a fair election, and the FL kerfuffle is going to look like a walk in the park in comparison.

In the case of NY and FL? So many live in both states...seasonal. They are registered in both states, and thus vote in each. With all the money Congress soaks us for, could they at least have a computerized system that would pick this up? And a penalty large enough for double voting?

I would bet that this is going on in all 50 states, and it destroys totally the 'one man, one vote' principal....as the politicians sit there gloating on the left, and blessing their idols in ACORN and Osama....

/I am a computer know-nothing.

512 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:48:03pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I will rent a movie that day for the case you are right....I will not be able to stomach watching it.

Please remember, however, that Obama did consistently worse than he polled in the Primaries. There is also 2 more weeks for Obama to be an idiot and Biden to be a super-idiot.

Smart money may be on Obama, but I'm not writing McCain off.

513 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:48:08pm

OT:
Linkies Hit & Run:

"Fragile Truce" "shaken" Again By Arab/Muslim Attempted Murder


Yet, Egypt is still pushing hard (with the blessing of the U.S., no doubt) to ensure that Hamas & Fatah get along
. (let's not forget that the U.S. has been arming and training Fatah for the last 5+ years....yea let's get Fatah & Hamas together...great idea)

Even though nothing has changed, Hamas is still attacking innocent people, still refuses to accept Israel's basic right to exist (let along on what borders), Chilean President and Jordan Hasimite King agree that Islamic Terrorists should be treated the same as responsible democratic governments ("balance")

now for some fun: I wonder if PETA is on this.

514 alegrias  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:48:56pm

re: #506 doppelganglander

Ohio would not be having the problems it's having now if Ken Blackwell were still Secretary of State. I would love to see him run for higher office.

* * *
Remember in your thoughts principled people such as Ken Blackwell who dare stand up for their principles, under withering race based attacks from liberals who pretend to eschew race-ism.

515 Kenneth  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:49:10pm

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

516 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:49:27pm

re: #514 alegrias

* * *
Remember in your thoughts principled people such as Ken Blackwell who dare stand up for their principles, under withering race based attacks from liberals who pretend to eschew race-ism.

Sure, they will call him an Uncle Tom until he endorses Obama... Then he is a genious...

517 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:49:37pm

re: #508 Cap'n DOC


easy for you to say

518 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:49:56pm

re: #515 Kenneth

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

Gorebull warming!

519 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:50:04pm

where in the world are you

re: #515 Kenneth

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

520 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:50:15pm

re: #515 Kenneth
What state?

521 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:50:49pm

re: #515 Kenneth

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

Better than it snowing in. :)

522 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:50:53pm

re: #469 bcgirl

check this out,, right now in my office a client of ours saw my autograph picture from Sarah Palin, she started out talking bad about sarah but then went on about the negative ads, then she said that she is a registerd demoncrat but that she votes for whomever she wants, and she would have voted for hillary and was leaning towards obamma untill last night when the obamotons kept calling and then left a note at her doorstep asking her to go to the Sarah Palin rally today and hold a negative nasty mean sign,, she will now vote for Mc Cain/Palin horray for the obamatons

In deciphering that "stream-of-consciousness" post, I take it your client was offended by The One's street apostles' brownshirt tactics and decided the Obamanation was more than she could stand?

;^)

523 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:50:55pm

re: #517 DeafDog

LOL. You said it...

524 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:51:09pm

re: #513 WrathofG-d

OT:
Linkies Hit & Run:

"Fragile Truce" "shaken" Again By Arab/Muslim Attempted Murder

From Al Jazeera: Fragile truce shaken by Jews continuing to breath; "In and out, in and out. Its so frigging repetitive!" decries Hamas Negotiator

525 tfc3rid  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:51:21pm

re: #517 DeafDog

easy for you to say

That poll is very far apart... I know I've been pessimistic for some time but right now I don't think nationally it is that far apart... That said, I don't think things are good at all... People are buying the nonsense... The media is winning its civil war against US... Payback will be really tough...

526 NotThatGordo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:51:56pm

still waiting patiently for zombie

527 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:52:03pm

re: #485 lawhawk

I am so glad I was sitting safely in my computer chair when I read that...astonished. Just astonished.

528 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:52:18pm

i would have to agree, she was definitly turned off but them, she said they were really pushing hard and she did not like it a-tall
re: #522 Spiny Norman

In deciphering that "stream-of-consciousness" post, I take it your client was offended by The One's street apostles' brownshirt tactics and decided the Obamanation was more than she could stand?

;^)

529 midwestgak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:54:18pm

Gotta go.

530 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:54:25pm

re: #528 bcgirl

i would have to agree, she was definitly turned off but them, she said they were really pushing hard and she did not like it a-tall

Another Dem sees the light.

Maybe there's hope yet...

531 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:54:46pm

re: #515 Kenneth

Gah! Where are you?

532 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:55:00pm

re: #515 Kenneth

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

Call Al.

533 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:55:10pm

re: #510 Scion9

I did a "find" search (for the term "CNN") on the last week of Beck's transcripts -- came up empty. The final week of his program he was really going after Barack Obama -- ACORN, Ayers, etc. He was blasting the Democrats, etc. (also, the one who's more apt to attack the media for being "in the tank" for Obama is Lou Dobbs...)

534 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:55:18pm

Anyone else feel that a 200 point down day on the Dow is kind of boring....what strange days.

535 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:55:27pm

re: #520 snowcrash

Kenneth is a Canuck, iirc.

536 janmar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:55:40pm

re: #533 J.S.

and he has bigtime

537 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:55:56pm

re: #511 NY Nana

I'm a computer know-even-less-than-Nana ! :)
So why can't we use the old-fashioned method of having voters dip their fingers in ink that won't come off for days? And don't let people vote early or by absentee ballot except for strictly legitimate reasons!

538 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:56:07pm

re: #526 NotThatGordo

still waiting patiently for zombie

I read that play in high school.

539 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:56:31pm

re: #526 NotThatGordo

still waiting patiently for zombie

I may take a nap and check back later for that. Last timeZombie dropped a bomb, it was after midnight.

540 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:56:42pm

re: #524 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Let's not forget that by breathing the Zionists are occupying the air space of Palestine and stealing the Palestinian tradition of inhaling. Its cultural and physical occupation!

But seriously, why is Egypt trying to get Hamas and Fatah to join forces?...and why is this supported (most likley) by the U.S.?...and what happens to the weapons, training, and money given to Fatah by the U.S., and other nations?

Like I warned before & every time the U.S. and other nations gave weapons, training, and money to the Fatah/PLO/PA....we have ended up arming, training, and sponsoring Hamas.

Way to go U.S.

oh yea. TRUCE my touchas!

541 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:57:08pm

I posted this at the other thread by mistake.

Daniel Pipes has an article that says Obama is still an Indonesian citizen. And Mr. Pipes is certainly not a kook who would post kookie articles.
-------------------------------------------------- ---

Obama on the Muslim Call to Prayer
by Benton Bain

Sen. Obama Says One Of The "Prettiest Sound On Earth At Sunset" Is The Muslim Call To Prayer

When Sen. Obama lived in Indonesia his legal name was Barry Soetoro because he was adopted and made an Indonesian citizen, which he still is. Since his adopting father was a Muslim this was Barry's official religion and he attended Muslim school in the Indonesian language, which he still speaks.

We all know that Sen. Barack Hussein Obama II claims that he never was a Muslim even though he needs to be reminded by MSM, because he is not reading from his teleprompter, that it is not "my Muslim faith" but Christian. We also know that The New York Times would not compromise his 'Christian' faith.

542 Killer Tomato  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:57:16pm

re: #538 Silhouette

I read that play in high school.

LOL!

543 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:57:27pm

re: #511 NY Nana

I have a feeling that this was done by the Demonrats. It sucks, and it probably should never have been allowed. There is just no way that there can be a fair election, and the FL kerfuffle is going to look like a walk in the park in comparison.

In the case of NY and FL? So many live in both states...seasonal. They are registered in both states, and thus vote in each. With all the money Congress soaks us for, could they at least have a computerized system that would pick this up? And a penalty large enough for double voting?

I would bet that this is going on in all 50 states, and it destroys totally the 'one man, one vote' principal....as the politicians sit there gloating on the left, and blessing their idols in ACORN and Osama....

/I am a computer know-nothing.


Just a question people. If it is found that there was widespread corruption in the voting process in this election, is there any recourse that concerned citizens could take to challenge a national election?

544 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:57:55pm

re: #535 joncelli

In Toronto. Yeah! Take that Toronto! We're in the sunshine of good ol' sunny Alberta...(it's actually in the double digits! double digits! plus 10).

545 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:58:19pm

re: #513 WrathofG-d

OT:
Linkies Hit & Run:

"Fragile Truce" "shaken" Again By Arab/Muslim Attempted Murder


Yet, Egypt is still pushing hard (with the blessing of the U.S., no doubt) to ensure that Hamas & Fatah get along
. (let's not forget that the U.S. has been arming and training Fatah for the last 5+ years....yea let's get Fatah & Hamas together...great idea)

Even though nothing has changed, Hamas is still attacking innocent people, still refuses to accept Israel's basic right to exist (let along on what borders), Chilean President and Jordan Hasimite King agree that Islamic Terrorists should be treated the same as responsible democratic governments ("balance")

now for some fun: I wonder if PETA is on this.

Hag Shiminy Cricket Sameach.

546 joncelli  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:59:06pm

re: #544 J.S.

Woohoo! (Gets pretty cold there does it?) :-)

547 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:59:26pm

re: #534 DeafDog

Anyone else feel that a 200 point down day on the Dow is kind of boring....what strange days.

Yep. The MSM has been accompanying the Dow stories with daily pictures of stricken brokers (or jubilent ones when news is good) - but yesterday, the guy in the pic was just kinda neutral. Neutral emotion on a 400+ gain.

Normally, I'd accuse the MSM of downplaying good economic news but given the last few weeks, I actually agree with the imagery. 400 up is good, but I wasn't celebrating yet.

548 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 1:59:42pm

re: #535 joncelli

Kenneth is a Canuck, iirc.


ANd that's when I realized, he is something different.

549 Florida Lady  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:00:25pm

I LOVE the idea of McCain naming whom he would have in his cabinet:

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

550 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:00:46pm

That Hot Air post is great, but I haven't been able to read through it yet. Are there any notable incompletions or omissions from the article? I need to know what to add to it in order to send it out to people.

551 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:00:48pm

re: #543 Soona'

Just a question people. If it is found that there was widespread corruption in the voting process in this election, is there any recourse that concerned citizens could take to challenge a national election?

Wasn't there fraud/tampering in the Washington State elections recently? I'm pretty sure the candidates that won (i'll let you guess which party they're from) are still in office......

552 Scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:01:17pm

re: #533 J.S.

I haven't heard him come out and say, "CNN is in the tank! Come burn down our offices!", but I've heard him allude to the fact quite often, including while a guest on other CNN shows. Pointing out who is 'trustworthy' in his opinion, which implies that only those few names on his list aren't in the tank.

553 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:01:57pm

re: #515 Kenneth

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

Send that storm south, our way, to Chicago for November 4th.

554 jamgarr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:02:11pm

Very frustrating!

Every time I click on a ding button (or quote or reply) today I get a full blown refresh. Then it lets me ding, quote or reply. Any other IE users having this problem?

555 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:02:41pm

re: #554 jamgarr

Very frustrating!

Every time I click on a ding button (or quote or reply) today I get a full blown refresh. Then it lets me ding, quote or reply. Any other IE users having this problem?

No, this IE7 user is not.

556 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:02:46pm

re: #549 Florida Lady

I LOVE the idea of McCain naming whom he would have in his cabinet:

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

That is an EXCELLENT idea.

557 looking closely  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:02:49pm

re: #451 Shr_Nfr

The famous Michelle tapes, aka the tapes the cried "wolf".
If these existed, they'd be out already.
I'll believe them when I see/hear them. . .and maybe not even then.

558 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:03:05pm

re: #554 jamgarr

Very frustrating!

Every time I click on a ding button (or quote or reply) today I get a full blown refresh. Then it lets me ding, quote or reply. Any other IE users having this problem?

SHOOT YER DINGER!

559 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:03:15pm

i think that there should not be early voting,, and absentee are only for military,, it has been and still is a privilge and a civic duty for Americans to go to the polls on ELECTION DAY as in one day not a bunch of days, and you are supposed to already be registered.
the polls are open all over the counrty for 12 hours, that is plenty of time to make it to vote, no matter what,, early voting in my thoughts just makes it eaiser for fraud to happen,,

we have voted on one day only for many elections and did just fine, early voting is not, again i my thought the way to go,,



re: #537 wolfie

I'm a computer know-even-less-than-Nana ! :)
So why can't we use the old-fashioned method of having voters dip their fingers in ink that won't come off for days? And don't let people vote early or by absentee ballot except for strictly legitimate reasons!

560 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:03:16pm

re: #554 jamgarr

Very frustrating!

Every time I click on a ding button (or quote or reply) today I get a full blown refresh. Then it lets me ding, quote or reply. Any other IE users having this problem?

You should switch to a standards-based browser, so you won't have those problems.

561 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:03:57pm

re: #554 jamgarr


Mine works.

562 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:04:01pm

re: #509 Silhouette

The only real question is does the Bill of Rights apply to the States. I believe that it does, and find it difficult to believe that anyone really thinks that they don't. We fought a Civil War over the balance of power between the Federal Government and the States, and the States lost. Now, those on the Left want to pretend that it is OK to abridge people's Second Amendment rights. How is the Second Amendment any different from the First?

Heller just made it official what anyone with common sense already knew. The Second Amendment applies to individuals. While it will take further litigation to cement, the Second Amendment applies to the States.

I am worried about what a Democratic Senate may do. Obama has said that the only reason he isn't coming for the guns is that he doesn't have the votes. After this election he may have them.

563 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:04:24pm

re: #405 Sharmuta

Years ago, I had a friend who worked for the local paper's polling division, and yes- they call the same people over and over again. Random Sample My Ass.

That's what I wondered about.

It's easy to skew a poll if the pollster knows the answers to the poll before he/she asks the polled.

564 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:04:51pm

re: #552 Scion9

I haven't heard him come out and say, "CNN is in the tank! Come burn down our offices!", but I've heard him allude to the fact quite often, including while a guest on other CNN shows. Pointing out who is 'trustworthy' in his opinion, which implies that only those few names on his list aren't in the tank.

He may as well say it.

CNN can't even put up an op-ed (OK, I don't think even they are low enough to pretend its news, although it occupies space with news stories) on Murtha's fat racist mealy mouth without insulting Palin in the opening line.

565 sandspur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:05:12pm

re: #167 redstateredneck

He is quite pissed about the hit piece on Cindy.

I hope he doesn't let 'em in at White House press briefings, either.

566 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:05:17pm

re: #551 Fenway_Nation

Wasn't there fraud/tampering in the Washington State elections recently? I'm pretty sure the candidates that won (i'll let you guess which party they're from) are still in office......

It starts with a capital G and ends with a capital D.

Looky here, another ballot box from a Dem. district. Happy,happy,joy,joy.

/I got nuthin

567 jamgarr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:06:39pm

re: #558 MandyManners

SHOOT YER DINGER!


Wouldn't. Be. Prudent.

568 looking closely  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:06:52pm

re: #549 Florida Lady

I LOVE the idea of McCain naming whom he would have in his cabinet:

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

Wow. . .
That would be impressive.
It presumes that the individuals in question would agree and "play ball", though I think they would.

Clock is ticking here. . .

569 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:07:06pm

re: #556 TheMatrix31

That is an EXCELLENT idea.

I agree.

And it will force The One to name his.

Or name his and then not go by the list he presented.

570 Killer Tomato  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:07:14pm

re: #562 Iron Fist

Obama has said that the only reason he isn't coming for the guns is that he doesn't have the votes. After this election he may have them.


My greatest fear also.

571 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:07:57pm

re: #554 jamgarr

Very frustrating!

Every time I click on a ding button (or quote or reply) today I get a full blown refresh. Then it lets me ding, quote or reply. Any other IE users having this problem?


Happened once earlier. Try closing the page and re-open.

572 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:08:44pm

re: #559 bcgirl

I am going to have to disagree.

There are perfectly legitimate reasons to miss an election day.

I had to vote early in the primary because I was out of the country on that day. What if you have a heart surgery scheduled? My daughter and her husband will be camped out at Texas Children's on this Election Day, tending to my grandson after his open heart surgery. They both voted early so as to not miss a beat in his care.

Just two examples for you that aren't military.

573 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:09:34pm

re: #558 MandyManners

SHOOT YER DINGER!


I do that on a regular basis, and it doesn't work.

574 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:10:03pm

re: #569 Ben Hur

I agree.

And it will force The One to name his.

Or name his and then not go by the list he presented.

It does'nt matter. The MSM will forgive him.

575 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:10:12pm

Update: LittleBigPlanet Song Writer Explains Censored Track


Toumani Diabate, the Malian songwriter whose Qur'an-referencing song sparked a worldwide recall of Media Molecule's LittleBigPlanet (PS3), has spoken in humble defense of his song.

Diabate, himself a devout Muslim, explained simply that the song his "way to attract and inspire people toward Islam" according to MTV Multiplayer. "It is quite normal to play music and be inspired by the words of the Prophet Mohammed (Peace on his Soul) in my country in Mali," he explained. "You can see this on television all the time," he added.

So a Muslims writes a song and the infidel company pulls it to avoid insulting Muslims?

576 Killer Tomato  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:10:18pm

5pm EST - gotta head home - debate tonight on TV (Senate) - forgot to pick up popcorn!

577 akak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:10:33pm
The commander of a NATO task force on its way to tackle piracy off the coast of Somalia has said he still does not know what the rules are for taking on the high-seas bandits. U.S. Admiral Mark Fitzgerald said while he was aware of where the pirates were operating, there was little he could do militarily to stop them and that guidelines on how to take them on -- including whether to shoot -- were still in the works.

[Link: africa.reuters.com...]


/we put it in the mail.

578 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:10:55pm

re: #574 Soona'

It does'nt matter. The MSM will forgive him explain why McCain screwed up by releasing his list, and how it proves that Obama is a better choice.

579 OldLineTexan  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:11:33pm

re: #575 Killgore Trout

Update: LittleBigPlanet Song Writer Explains Censored Track

So a Muslims writes a song and the infidel company pulls it to avoid insulting Muslims?

Ah, remember the good old days, when the Japanese had swords?

580 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:12:41pm

I just called the McCain Campaign about this. This needs to be in their speech by the end of the week.

Our great friends of the South came across a momentous discovery over the last few weeks. Apparently, Cuba does not have all the environmentalist wackos to prevent it from drilling. Consequently, Cuba just found 20 billion barrels of oil off its shores in the Gulf of Mexico, and now plans to be one of the top 20 exporting countries in the world.

This story alone should disqualify the Democrats from being reelected. Had there not been a moratorium on drilling, that oil would have been ours. What is wrong with this Country? Cuba is literally drilling where we are not allowed to drill! Had we discovered 20 billion barrels overnight, the price of gasoline would drop to close to $2.00 per gallon, and OPEC would have less leverage because we would control our own supply.

If the McCain camp had any sense, they would make this a main issue of the campaign: If Cuba can become energy independent overnight by drilling, why can't we? Let us drill our way out of this mess.
[Link: copiousdissent.blogspot.com...]

581 scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:12:43pm

re: #559 bcgirl

I agree. I just don't get 'early voting'. The campaign process needs to vet the candidates, and getting a media blitz in, then having voters hit the booths a month early is nonsense. It is an attempt to get votes in before any damning 'October Surpise' sees the light of day.

582 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:12:49pm

re: #549 Florida Lady

I LOVE the idea of McCain naming whom he would have in his cabinet:

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

BRILLIANT. McCain should do it. (If Giuliani won't play because he's planning to run for the Senate, McCain could substitute Fred Thompson.)

583 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:12:49pm

re: #578 OldLineTexan

Good fix.

584 jamgarr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:12:50pm

re: #571 x-wing

Happened once earlier. Try closing the page and re-open.

So far so good

/when in doubt - reboot

585 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:13:07pm

Lizard Prayer List 10/21/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Thanksgivings
Pigtown Water Dog: "work project" and my animals.
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
turn: basal cell carcinoma (cancer) completely removed
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
realwest: recovered from dental issues
vxhush: husband recovering well from rotator cuff surgery
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:

twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
doriangrey: friend Byran's brother be life flighted back to the US and that his life be saved
mikeymom: sister undergoing tests for some problems
RememberSekhmet: moderate depression; burned out at my job and looking for a new one
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
Dublic(CA)Dude - serious health issues
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: waiting for results of tests for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery

/cont'd

586 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:13:09pm

re: #575 Killgore Trout

The West: Finding new ways to submit daily!

587 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:13:23pm

re: #582 wolfie

BRILLIANT. McCain should do it. (If Giuliani won't play because he's planning to run for the Senate, McCain could substitute Fred Thompson.)

Sorry Fred's still napping?

588 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:13:36pm

cont'd

Family, friend, and life situations:
USMC1968’s family and friends: his passing
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Newsjunkie: loss of her dog
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: various
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: new 7-month-old foster daughter; best result for another foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Our country facing financial challenges & the election
Georgia/Ossetia
Those dealing with the hurricanes
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

589 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:14:03pm

point taken, you are right, there are definitly some other very good reasons,, of course if a vacation or something was planned you should be able to get an absentee ballot, and a health emergency like that would probably keep me away too, i just don't like the idea of haveing to listen to all the "obama already won" when there are lots of people who might wait till nov 4, in the mean time the exit polls will try to discourage that NOV4 vote day by saying stuff like it is already over by a land slide,,, i was told by someone though that the actual votes are not really counted till nov 4 any way,, but regarding the register and vote the same day,, now that is just not right, unless you just became a citizen that day there is plenty of time to register in advance and follow the old school rules
re: #572 OldLineTexan

I am going to have to disagree.

There are perfectly legitimate reasons to miss an election day.

I had to vote early in the primary because I was out of the country on that day. What if you have a heart surgery scheduled? My daughter and her husband will be camped out at Texas Children's on this Election Day, tending to my grandson after his open heart surgery. They both voted early so as to not miss a beat in his care.

Just two examples for you that aren't military.

590 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:14:35pm

re: #537 wolfie

I'm a computer know-even-less-than-Nana ! :)
So why can't we use the old-fashioned method of having voters dip their fingers in ink that won't come off for days? And don't let people vote early or by absentee ballot except for strictly legitimate reasons!

Ooooh, no, you aren't! ;)

I agree with everything else you said. Every last word. The 'vote early and vote often' meme just does not work in a democracy.

I vote absentee...disabled.

591 angrywhitedad  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:14:37pm

Man I hope that PA internal is true I just hope he doesn't let VA or CO slide. I just got back from the outer banks in NC and just can't see BO picking up that state.

592 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:14:37pm

re: #552 Scion9

You're referring to Glenn Beck here? Beck has been critical of the "mainstream media" or the "leftist press". Lou Dobbs has also stated his concern about media bias, and Lou Dobbs has used that phrase "in the tank" to describe the "worshipful" stance of the "left-wing media" (repeatedly). Dobbs says things such as "smears by left-wing blogs," etc. Without doing an actual text search, imo, Dobbs has been much more critical of the media on a number/range of issues (not just Obama)...and Dobbs has pointed out how the media slants things...perhaps more so than Beck (?) (although Beck has also mentioned the favorable media portrayals of Obama.)

593 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:14:52pm

re: #575 Killgore Trout

Update: LittleBigPlanet Song Writer Explains Censored Track

So a Muslims writes a song and the infidel company pulls it to avoid insulting Muslims?

Doesn't that mean it should've been pulled for trying to indoctrinate children to accept Islam.

It would be if it was Christianity or Judaism, etc

594 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:15:07pm

re: #515 Kenneth

It's bloody snowing out right now! That's just not right...

You live in Canada. I'd be surprised if it weren't snowing.

595 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:16:31pm

re: #593 Ben Hur

Doesn't that mean it should've been pulled for trying to indoctrinate children to accept Islam.

It would be if it was Christianity or Judaism, etc

Grrrrr, I need LGF guidance.....am I in a huff because it was in the game to indoctrinate unsuspecting youth, or am I in a huff because the infidel Western company pulled it? I need some Lizardoid guidance.

596 scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:16:45pm

re: #572 OldLineTexan


There are perfectly legitimate reasons to miss an election day.

Which should be the exception, not the rule. Obama in the primaries was getting a quarter of a million 'early votes' in some States. That many people didn't all have perfectly legitimate reasons to vote early, and many of them got a healthy dose of buyers remorse, which I'm sure Obama's campaign was counting on.

597 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:17:18pm

re: #595 WrathofG-d

Grrrrr, I need LGF guidance.....am I in a huff because it was in the game to indoctrinate unsuspecting youth, or am I in a huff because the infidel Western company pulled it? I need some Lizardoid guidance.

You need to self medicate.

And with that, BBL!

598 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:17:23pm

re: #504 Killgore Trout

Just wanted to thank you for your kind words yesterday. And please tell Goddess that I would be honored to be on her list.

Thanks also to RealWest for getting in touch with me.

As for my now infamous comment #19, I admit I wasn't very smart in the way I phrased it. Basically all I wanted to know, seeing the overwhelming distrust of Obama here, was whether or not an old fart like me can support him openly on this forum and still be considered a Lizard in Good Standing. The polarization in this country saddens me, and I would hope that whoever wins we can all accept the outcome and get on with the life of the country. I don't see a McCain win as catastrophic for our future, and I can't understand why Obama is assumed to be a disaster in the making.

In any case I felt it would be dishonest of me to continue commenting here without making it known that I don't agree with the currently prevailing tenor of the election discourse. I shall now shut up and refrain from talking about the election. There are plenty of other things I can comment on, like Islam, Israel, the international jihad and Euro-fascism and Intelligent Design, that I hope will not earn me the rancor of the crowd. I remain in any case an enthusiastic reader of LGF.

That's all for now.

599 Dianna  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:18:01pm

I'm here! I'm here!

At last, I'm here!

Now, if the router gods don't approve of me, I may vanish again, but for this one, brief, shining moment, I'm here!

600 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:18:24pm

re: #594 doppelganglander

You live in Canada. I'd be surprised if it weren't snowing.

Contrary to popular belief below the 49th, it does not always snow in Canada, aka The Great White North. It stops snowing for July 1st, eh.

/j/k, Canuck lizards.

601 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:19:01pm

re: #584 jamgarr

So far so good

/when in doubt - reboot

No shit? wow, I just threw that out there. Blind squirrell, broken clock.I'm as computer literate as Rosie O'Dononell is literate.

/ Bill Gates watch your ass

602 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:19:32pm

re: #598 Cato the Elder

If you can tell us a reason other hope and change or mention anything this guy has ever done--then sure. Also don't drop of the same crap that Powell did on meet the press.

603 akak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:19:39pm

re: #588 goddessoftheclassroom

Was Galloping Granny banned?

604 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:20:18pm

re: #603 akak

Was Galloping Granny banned?

What?

605 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:20:57pm

re: #603 akak

Was Galloping Granny banned?

Why would she be?

606 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:21:09pm

re: #598 Cato the Elder


Basically all I wanted to know, seeing the overwhelming distrust of Obama here, was whether or not an old fart like me can support him openly on this forum and still be considered a Lizard in Good Standing.

Imo, yes, sure you can, just bring specific facts if you want to discuss the matter, don't take passionate disagreement personally, and don't be surprised if people lose some respect for you, given all that LGF has exposed about Obama.

607 imtoast  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:22:16pm

re: #419 Kenneth

Do nose & ear tufts count?

What's up with that? My husband still has hair on his head but now he has a mini beard on his nose, in his nose and in his ears!

608 Sylvester_T_Cat  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:22:19pm

re: #130 Arkay


Add to that, Obama thuggery. Saw a sign up in Macomb County headquarters: "Sorry we cannot replace stolen lawn signs." I asked the lady, WTF? She says, "There's a $1.50 a sign bounty being paid by the unions for stolen McCain lawn signs. We can't keep them up."

That sounds like RICO stuff the FBI "ought" to hear about.

Assuming the FBI wasn't interested (they aren't exactly covering themselves in glory with their swift, timely, efficient investigation of ACORN, are they?) -- at a bare minimum your county cops oughta hear about this. "Receiving of stolen property" is a crime even if it's a union doing it.

With 24 years in working the political system there, I'm sure you know a few useful phone numbers? Go gettem! :-)

609 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:22:22pm

re: #603 akak

Was Galloping Granny banned?

I don't believe so.

610 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:22:32pm

India readies 1st moon mission in Asian space race

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Just wait till you call tech. support next time and think the dude on the other end is really far away?

611 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:22:38pm

re: #599 Dianna

I'm here! I'm here!

At last, I'm here!

Now, if the router gods don't approve of me, I may vanish again, but for this one, brief, shining moment, I'm here!

I know how you feel. For various reasons of travel, bad hotel wifi, and fried laptop, I've been limited LGF for three weeks. But I've gotten to see great parts of the world, so there's that.

612 jamgarr  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:22:46pm

re: #601 x-wing

No shit? wow, I just threw that out there. Blind squirrell, broken clock.I'm as computer literate as Rosie O'Dononell is literate.

/ Bill Gates watch your ass

LOL!
Spoke too soon. Tried to upding your 601 and, guess what, full-blown refresh. Gonna refrain from pushing too many buttons for awhile.

613 akak  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:23:25pm

re: #605 Honorary Yooper

Why would she be?

Sorry maybe I should have asked if she is ok, anyone heard from her?

/didn't mean to sound alarms lol

614 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:23:28pm

re: #611 Silhouette

I know how you feel. For various reasons of travel, bad hotel wifi, and fried laptop, I've been limited LGF for three weeks. But I've gotten to see great parts of the world, so there's that.

Been to Bayone NJ?

615 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:24:02pm

Simchat Torah Samach Chavarim!

616 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:24:29pm

re: #564 OldLineTexan

That link is to the Cafferty File. Cafferty straight out -- early on -- was it last year? stated: "I'm voting for Obama." He said, on air, live, that's who he was voting for. His "job" is to ask a question of viewers, viewers (supposedly) send in "answers" - then the jackAs reads "the answers." O, and can you guess what letters get read? Much of the content of the e-mail letters contains outright lies, innuendos, gossip, rumors, and half-baked untruths, 98 percent pro-Obama and viciously anti-McCain -- BUT, it's from CNN's viewers...so, I guess CNN is off the hook in terms of its media responsibilities...yeah, that's how it works...Hire a "letter reader"...

617 scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:24:41pm

re: #598 Cato the Elder

You wouldn't be the only 'contrarian' poster, but I don't think you will find reasoned debate in response to the kind of dKos talking points you posted yesterday. I don't think anyone here wants to read about Bill Clinton's policies and plans attributed strictly to Bush, and their promised continuation by Obama as reasons to vote for Obama.

If you actually got something to say that goes against the grain, don't be afriad to say it, but don't expect to be greeted with applause over it either. KT certainly isn't a Republcian/McCain cheerleader, but he is apparently willing to accept the flak for it too by those that are on McCain's bandwagon. As long as you or anyone else can swing that, I don't see why they would need or want 'permission'.

618 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:24:46pm

re: #559 bcgirl

In NY State, being in the Military ,legally disabled or being out of state, country, etc. on Election Day qualifies for an absentee ballot. The votes are counted in the County Seat, at the Courthouse. And if you should happen to vote in person? The absentee ballot is destroyed at the Courthouse.

I was the chairman of my district for years. Now that I am legally disabled, I vote absentee. There are other things and this explains the system.

619 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:24:47pm

re: #615 WrathofG-d

Simchat Torah Samach Chavarim!

I miss Jerusalem

620 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:24:58pm

re: #599 Dianna

I'm here! I'm here!

At last, I'm here!

Now, if the router gods don't approve of me, I may vanish again, but for this one, brief, shining moment, I'm here!

Just remember to sacrifice a fax machine to the router gods so you maintain your connection. Not a calculator, not a phone, but a fax machine or larger.

621 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:25:09pm

re: #608 Sylvester_T_Cat

That sounds like RICO stuff the FBI "ought" to hear about.

Assuming the FBI wasn't interested (they aren't exactly covering themselves in glory with their swift, timely, efficient investigation of ACORN, are they?) -- at a bare minimum your county cops oughta hear about this. "Receiving of stolen property" is a crime even if it's a union doing it.

With 24 years in working the political system there, I'm sure you know a few useful phone numbers? Go gettem! :-)

The FBI is moving at its usual "speed of government".

622 poopeedoo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:25:26pm

re: #549 Florida Lady

I LOVE the idea of McCain naming whom he would have in his cabinet:

[Link: www.humanevents.com...]

FANTASTIC! C'mon John!

623 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:25:33pm

Has LTG Russel L. Honore (Retired) contemplated running for public office?

Failing that, I'm imagining he'd make a pretty good Secretary of Defense...

/not stuck on stupid

624 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:26:54pm

re: #623 Fenway_Nation

Has LTG Russel L. Honore (Retired) contemplated running for public office?

Failing that, I'm imagining he'd make a pretty good Secretary of Defense...

/not stuck on stupid

He should be brought in to head up FEMA.

625 zulubaby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:27:13pm

PLEASE can someone tell me the html symbol code for a music note?!

Hello lovelies :-)

626 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:28:15pm

re: #614 Nevergiveup

Been to Bayone NJ?

Is that the place you first think of when I say great parts of the world? :-)

To answer your question, no, that wasn't on my list.

627 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:28:46pm

Decisions

Nov 4th--be there or be square!

628 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:28:52pm

re: #615 WrathofG-d

And to you! Chag sameach!

629 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:29:37pm

re: #625 zulubaby

PLEASE can someone tell me the html symbol code for a music note?!

Hello lovelies :-)

[Link: answers.yahoo.com...]

630 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:29:55pm
PLEASE can someone tell me the html symbol code for a music note?!

Hello lovelies :-)


Try

631 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:29:56pm

re: #579 OldLineTexan

Ah, remember the good old days, when the Japanese had swords?

And the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

632 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:29:58pm

re: #626 Silhouette

Is that the place you first think of when I say great parts of the world? :-)

To answer your question, no, that wasn't on my list.

They do have some really good restaurants? Ever hear of a poor man's vacation?

633 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:30:30pm
634 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:30:33pm

re: #630 eschew_obfuscation

Try 1 3 (hold down the alt key and press 1, then 3, then release the alt key.......also 1 4

(this is for posting here......not html in general)

635 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:30:52pm

re: #66 alegrias

OT, We have a Crisis!

OPEC member Iran threatens USA with higher gas prices today!

"The era of cheap oil is finished," Iran's Oil Minister Gholamhossein Nozari boasted on Tuesday.

When asked what price Iran would want for its oil, Nozari declared, "The more the better."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Nothing Drill Baby Drill, and Drill Here, Drill Now can't fix eventually.

Alegrias -

Drilling can be of help within 1-2 years on a "Crash Program" - especially in California and Alaska. As a counter move to the "Iranian" Bluster, I suggest that we quietly "Watch" gasoline tankers on their way to "Iran" being seized by "Pirates." Ahoy Mateys - No Refineries = No Gas!

636 musicman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:31:05pm

Been away from the computer for awhile but has anybody else seen this...
apnews.myway.com...] target="_blank">

McCain reminds Biden he's been tested in crisisRepublican John McCain told voters in this key electoral state Tuesday he was personally tested by the same kind of crisis that Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph Biden warned Barack Obama will almost certainly face if elected president.

McCain recalled being ready to launch a bombing run during the October 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, which Biden said over the weekend tested a new President John F. Kennedy and was the template for the kind of "generated crisis" the 47-year-old Obama would face within six months of taking office.

"I was on board the USS Enterprise," McCain, a former naval aviator, said in the capital city of Harrisburg. "I sat in the cockpit, on the flight deck of the USS Enterprise, off of Cuba. I had a target. My friends, you know how close we came to a nuclear war."

As the crowd of several thousand began to swell with cheers and applause, he added with dramatic effect: "America will not have a president who needs to be tested. I've been tested, my friends."

637 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:31:12pm

re: #611 Silhouette

I know how you feel. For various reasons of travel, bad hotel wifi, and fried laptop, I've been limited LGF for three weeks. But I've gotten to see great parts of the world, so there's that.


should have called me when you were in Indiana....
/

638 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:31:14pm

re: #627 Nevergiveup

Decisions

[Link: ace.mu.nu...]

Nov 4th--be there or be square!

Oops--I missed your post before posting mine. Sorry!

639 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:31:23pm

re: #598 Cato the Elder

I would love to hear a defense of Obama that is not based on fluffy feelings about hope and change. Because of the very strong chance that he could win, I'd like to find something about him that doesn't scare the living bejeebers out of me.

640 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:32:39pm

re: #625 zulubaby

PLEASE can someone tell me the html symbol code for a music note?!

Hello lovelies :-)

Type this, but eliminate the spaces:
& # x 266A ;

You'll get this:

641 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:32:47pm

re: #638 goddessoftheclassroom

Oops--I missed your post before posting mine. Sorry!

It can't be said enough!

642 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:33:08pm

I should have previewed that better.....

that should be < alt > 1 3 and < alt > 1 4

643 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:33:13pm

re: #633 goddessoftheclassroom

Have y'all seen this?

Actually, I haven't. Who put it out? And are they going wide with it?

644 zulubaby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:34:03pm

Thanks!

645 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:34:04pm

re: #619 Nevergiveup

Don't get me started. When it comes to saying wonderful things about Jerusalem, I could be here for hours. I guess that is why H'S picked it.

1
2
34
5
6
7

646 wright1  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:34:21pm

re: #541 Teacake!

You got dinged down for this I am not sure why. It is all fair comment. There is nothingh wrong with pointing out one's influences or in this case "the One's influences" and how it will effect his public policy. (BHO) He was raised at points in his life in a Muslim country. It may or may not effect his world view. I suspect it will. To the extent that he is vulnerable to being a sympathizer to/with Muslim extremists, it is relevant to the discourse. So, as a voter, I would want to know this. The American people are smart enough to decide what weight to give this fact(s).

647 Clutch  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:34:27pm

re: #558 MandyManners

SHOOT YER DINGER!

No, I love my dinger, it's my bestest friend and makes all my bestest decisions and I can write my name on the urinal with it...oh, not that dinger! Whew!

;-)

648 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:34:36pm

re: #625 zulubaby

PLEASE can someone tell me the html symbol code for a music note?!

Hello lovelies :-)

this one ♪, or this one ♫? Go to accessories, system tools, character map.

649 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:34:51pm

re: #628 NY Nana

Great to see you around here.

Wonderful picture wasn't it?

650 eon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:35:12pm

re: #639 doppelganglander

I would love to hear a defense of Obama that is not based on fluffy feelings about hope and change. Because of the very strong chance that he could win, I'd like to find something about him that doesn't scare the living bejeebers out of me.

I think about the least worst best thing that can be said about Senator Obama is that if you wait five minutes, any statement he makes will be marked "no longer operative".

He's sort of like the tape recorder in the old Mission; Impossible TV series.

This policy statement will self-destruct in five seconds.

cheers

eon

651 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:35:13pm

re: #585 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess} Hello. If you could up-date your prayer list. My son has been diagnosed with Ausbergers(sp,sorry), it is a mild form of Autism, he's not all Rainman, but he focuses on one thing and goes full bore with it. It took this long to figure it out, Doctors earlier said he had ADHD. But now that he has been properly diagnosed, he is getting the proper treatment.

You are truly a beautiful person, thank you.

652 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:35:18pm

re: #633 goddessoftheclassroom

Have y'all seen this?

Ow, that's gonna leave a mark!

653 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:35:41pm

re: #645 WrathofG-d
Do you live there wrath?

654 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:36:59pm

I would hang out, but it is one danged fine day outside.
The kayak calleth me.
Later.

655 gop_patriot  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:37:01pm

I haven't had time to read back over the whole thread yet, so my apologies if this has been mentioned already:

News outlets sweat over exit poll accuracy

Media outlets are preparing for the possibility that their Election Day surveys could be skewed because of overstated support for Barack Obama, largely because of the enthusiasm of his supporters.

While exit polling is a notoriously inexact science—early exit poll results suggested John Kerry would be elected president in 2004—the introduction of several new variables, ranging from the zeal of Obama’s supporters to his racial background to widespread early voting, is causing concerns among those who charged with conducting the surveys and the networks that will be reporting them.

“It’s in some ways the flip side of non-cooperation,” said one pollster involved in preparations, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, “It’s over-cooperation by certain people.”

More at the link.

656 bosforus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:37:10pm

re: #639 doppelganglander

I would love to hear a defense of Obama that is not based on fluffy feelings about hope and change. Because of the very strong chance that he could win, I'd like to find something about him that doesn't scare the living bejeebers out of me.

No help here.

657 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:37:13pm

re: #653 HoosierHoops

Only spiritually. I physically live in California.

I hope to move there (or at least own a home there) in the streets of the old city, one day.

It is an indescribable Jewish city!

658 wright1  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:37:54pm

re: #652 doppelganglander

Ow, that's gonna leave a mark!


Love it!

659 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:37:54pm

re: #639 doppelganglander
I wish Obamas supporters would be honest and say they want free health care, or want more preschool education etc. and forget this change/transformational stuff. They won't admit they hope to benefit from big govt. spending programs. That irritates me.

660 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:38:07pm

re: #651 x-wing

Done.

(and you're too kind!)

661 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:39:10pm

re: #645 WrathofG-d


"If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy." (137, 5-7).

662 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:39:22pm

663 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:40:23pm

re: #659 snowcrash

I wish Obamas supporters would be honest and say they want free health care, or want more preschool education etc. and forget this change/transformational stuff. They won't admit they hope to benefit from big govt. spending programs. That irritates me.

Someone quotable said "Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue." I take a bit of solace in the fact that socialism is still ill-regarded in public, even if lots of people do in fact vote for gov't gimmes.

664 eschew_obfuscation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:40:24pm

re: #659 snowcrash

I wish Obamas supporters would be honest and say they want free health care, or want more preschool education etc. and forget this change/transformational stuff. They won't admit they hope to benefit from big govt. spending programs. That irritates me.

Supporters of liberal ideas in general can't admit what they really support because no one would have any of it......

Like their desire to censor conservative speech......they refer to that breach of first amendment rights as "fairness". (as in the "Fairness Doctrine")

665 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:40:48pm

re: #646 wright1

You know, that's exactly right -- the voters of America (that includes me, btw) have a RIGHT to know about the potential Next President of the United States. We NEED the information so as to be able to make an informed decision. We're not children who must have the "naughty bits" kept hidden...or undisclosed for fears we're just too stupid to be able to handle it. There's something fundamentally undemocratic for someone (or institutions such as the news media) to try to keep pertinent, biographical details about a candidate "under wraps."

666 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:41:09pm

re: #661 Nevergiveup

Maybe someone should organize (not it!) an LGF Israel trip. Winter flights are cheap!

667 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:41:32pm

re: #663 nikis-knight

Oscar Wilde, I think.

668 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:41:37pm

The worst thing about having 0bama as a president is that before we respond to any terrorist attack on our soil, we'll have to ask whether it's one of 0bama's friends or not.

669 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:41:41pm

re: #657 WrathofG-d

Only spiritually. I physically live in California.

I hope to move there (or at least own a home there) in the streets of the old city, one day.

It is an indescribable Jewish city!

I played ball in college in Northern California...I like cali..
But some day i must visit the holy city...and walk the streets of the old city..( maybe wearing a flak jacket ) But we will go there..
Heck my wife is jewish and she has never been there..when she speaks of the old country she means NYC.
/Heh...

670 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:41:41pm

re: #666 WrathofG-d

Maybe someone should organize (not it!) an LGF Israel trip. Winter flights are cheap!

I'm in!

671 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:41:56pm

re: #485 lawhawk

How much more evidence do we need that the media is in the tank for Obama that even Dan Rather notes that if Palin said what Biden did, it would be above the fold front page top news.

Andrea Mitchell reported part of it. Guess which part. HINT: It contains the words "spine of steel".

It is a mystery to me how these people live with themselves. Their profession is dead, and they're the ones that held the pillow over its struggling face.

672 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:42:25pm

re: #666 WrathofG-d

Maybe someone should organize (not it!) an LGF Israel trip. Winter flights are cheap!

We tried at one point. I think WriterMom was lead.

673 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:43:49pm

re: #669 HoosierHoops

I played ball in college in Northern California...I like cali..
But some day i must visit the holy city...and walk the streets of the old city..( maybe wearing a flak jacket ) But we will go there..
Heck my wife is jewish and she has never been there..when she speaks of the old country she means NYC.
/Heh...

Jerusalem and even the Old City are pretty safe. No need for a flak jacket. A good guide might be advisable.

674 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:44:02pm

re: #669 HoosierHoops

You should definately go. One truly cannot describe the feeling of Jerusalem. I know it sounds crazy to say that, but its true. (I've visted Greece, Italy, France, South America, etc....) but NOTHING feels the way Jerusalem does.

It is an amazing thing to go somewhere for the 1st time and automatically feel at home.

Btw: no flak jacket needed for Jerusalem. Its exceptionally safe there. Don't believe the hype!

675 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:44:58pm
676 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:45:10pm

re: #664 eschew_obfuscation

Supporters of liberal ideas in general can't admit what they really support because no one would have any of it......

Like their desire to censor conservative speech......they refer to that breach of first amendment rights as "fairness". (as in the "Fairness Doctrine")

IIRC, the bill to deprive workers of the secret ballot re unions is called the Free Choice Labor Act or some such! Orwellian!

677 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:45:19pm

re: #672 Silhouette

What about a "meet the ISM" LGF trip to Israel? That might be fun!

678 eon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:45:22pm

re: #671 capitalist piglet

Andrea Mitchell reported part of it. Guess which part. HINT: It contains the words "spine of steel".

It is a mystery to me how these people live with themselves. Their profession is dead, and they're the ones that held the pillow over its struggling face.

They're leading the way to a new, enlightened, non-judgmental worldview, of course.

Well, except for themselves, as the Final Judges Of Everybody Other Than The Messiah And His Prophet, Plugs.

cheers

eon

679 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:45:23pm

re: #612 jamgarr

LOL!
Spoke too soon. Tried to upding your 601 and, guess what, full-blown refresh. Gonna refrain from pushing too many buttons for awhile.

Try closing out one more time. Feelin' Lucky

////

680 lummox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:45:41pm

re: #432 Eowyn2

Taiwan is bringing in too many $$$ to the Chinese. The Chicoms will be very pissed off at ol kim il if he messes that much with their economy. They will demolish noko and the men (Marines) on the 38th will be in more danger than those in Afghanistan or Iraq. If the little pisser goes in at all, it will be Seoul that gets it. It will be more kazakhstan, Ethiopia, Sudan, Nigeria, or Ethiopia. small push at first, then the big hit when bambi takes forever to respond.

Where did you study foriegn relations. The threat to Taiwan is FROM the chi coms , not noko.

681 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:45:44pm

re: #672 Silhouette

We tried at one point. I think WriterMom was lead.

Well if truth be known I used to run Tours to Israel for the UJA. It really isn't all that tough. You just need commitments. I mean people say they will go, but when the time comes to put up, you got to step up so rational arrangements can really be made.

682 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:46:05pm

re: #675 ploome hineni

Obama: taking the FREE out of Freedom Of The Press.

683 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:48:10pm

re: #660 goddessoftheclassroom

Thank you.

684 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:48:11pm

re: #663 nikis-knight
Nothing wrong with having strong feelings of support for various social programs. I love head start and any early childhood ed., I'm into extra funding for public health programs too. BTW, your baby must be getting big! How old now?

685 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:48:18pm

Qassam fired from Gaza, Barak orders crossings closed

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Ain't peace wonderful?

686 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:48:19pm

re: #633 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks to you I have. And it is an excellent 'lesson' for those still under the spell of Hussein.

687 DeafDog  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:48:31pm

re: #668 gmsc

The worst thing about having 0bama as a president is that before we respond to any terrorist attack on our soil, we'll have to ask whether it's one of 0bama's friends or not.

Brutal truth

688 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:48:45pm

re: #685 Nevergiveup

That would be a "shaking" of the standing "truce". Don't mock it. Arabs want peace.

689 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:49:11pm
690 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:49:52pm

re: #677 WrathofG-d

We could have a short, final kind of meeting...

691 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:50:10pm
692 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:51:08pm

re: #690 Iron Fist

I don't know what you are getting at but I would only want to protest!

693 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:51:19pm

re: #677 WrathofG-d

What about a "meet the ISM" LGF trip to Israel? That might be fun!

I'll bring the maple syrup!

694 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:51:49pm

{Goddess}
Thanks so much for the prayer list..
You are a wonderful person..
I'll root for Philly to win the world series for you..
/Saves you the energy and all... :)

695 MikeySDCA  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:52:20pm

Dean Rusk once said that the hard thing about being Secretary of State is that the world is round. At any given time, two-thirds of the people are awake, and generally up to mischief.

696 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:53:06pm

happy Arab wedding video.

Does this link work? (flashplayer been giving me trouble)

697 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:53:47pm

re: #684 snowcrash

Nothing wrong with having strong feelings of support for various social programs. I love head start and any early childhood ed., I'm into extra funding for public health programs too. BTW, your baby must be getting big! How old now?

Yes, quite big, just over six months. Trying to crawl right now.

698 arethusa  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:55:13pm

re: #695 MikeySDCA

Dean Rusk once said that the hard thing about being Secretary of State is that the world is round. At any given time, two-thirds of the people are awake, and generally up to mischief.

Don't tell Joe Biden that...he'll amend it to say that within 6 months of an Obama inauguration, 100% of the world will be wide awake at all times, creating international crises to test The One./

699 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:55:49pm

re: #684 snowcrash

Nothing wrong with having strong feelings of support for various social programs. I love head start and any early childhood ed., I'm into extra funding for public health programs too. BTW, your baby must be getting big! How old now?


That's great. Then you pay for them out of your own pocket. I am not financially responsible for the upbringing of your child. As a matter of fact, I'm not responsible any aspect of your child's well-being.

700 MikeySDCA  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:56:20pm

re: #696 maddogg

Yes. Link works. New Flash Player version available.

701 Dianna  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:56:20pm

re: #696 maddogg

happy Arab wedding video.

Does this link work? (flashplayer been giving me trouble)

So long as my Male is here (in my office) looking over my shoulder, I'm afraid to click any links, particularly to flash player, or youtube.

702 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:56:33pm

re: #697 nikis-knight

Yes, quite big, just over six months. Trying to crawl right now.

With that classic 4 point stance you child is destined for the NFL.

703 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:56:34pm

re: #671 capitalist piglet

Andrea Mitchell reported part of it. Guess which part. HINT: It contains the words "spine of steel".

It is a mystery to me how these people live with themselves. Their profession is dead, and they're the ones that held the pillow over its struggling face.

No matter who wins, this election will mark the point where the Mainstream Media lost it's last shreds of credibility with the vast majority of its viewers.

704 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:56:39pm

re: #697 nikis-knight

Yes, quite big, just over six months. Trying to crawl right now.

Stop it now! The next thing you know, he'll want your car keys!

bbl

705 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:58:10pm

re: #702 HoosierHoops
It's a she, btw, but she might well take after her aunt and play football with the big boys. :)

706 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:58:16pm

re: #701 Dianna

So long as my Male is here (in my office) looking over my shoulder, I'm afraid to click any links, particularly to flash player, or youtube.

Not dirty, but somewhat disturbing.

707 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:58:59pm

re: #697 nikis-knight
What a DOLL! So happy and healthy. Just beautiful.

708 formercorpsman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:59:14pm

re: #696 maddogg

Yes, that was disturbing.

709 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 2:59:27pm

thank you NY Nana,, you are a bright light in dark days!

re: #618 NY Nana

In NY State, being in the Military ,legally disabled or being out of state, country, etc. on Election Day qualifies for an absentee ballot. The votes are counted in the County Seat, at the Courthouse. And if you should happen to vote in person? The absentee ballot is destroyed at the Courthouse.

I was the chairman of my district for years. Now that I am legally disabled, I vote absentee. There are other things and this explains the system.

710 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:00:22pm

re: #705 nikis-knight

It's a she, btw, but she might well take after her aunt and play football with the big boys. :)

whoops..You should buy her a pink peyton manning jersey...She is a redhead?
oh lawdy..you are going to have you're hands full! LOL

711 Dianna  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:00:36pm

re: #706 maddogg

Not dirty, but somewhat disturbing.

He's interceding with the techno godlets for me. To say nothing of keeping AT&T's technicians safe from me and my (steroid enhanced) irritability. It's a good thing.

712 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:00:37pm
713 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:01:38pm

re: #699 Soona'
I am in a tax bracket where I am sure I do. BTW my kids are 11 and 16 and I expect nothing from you or others.

714 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:02:18pm

re: #649 WrathofG-d

Thanks. This election has me so stressed out that I had not been posting much...but posting is better than sitting around pouting! ;)

And there are sane people here!

Beautiful...I get the shivers whenever I see the Kotel.

715 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:02:20pm

re: #668 gmsc

The worst thing about having 0bama as a president is that before we respond to any terrorist attack on our soil, we'll have to ask whether it's one of 0bama's friends or not.

Quote of the Day.

716 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:04:18pm

re: #714 NY Nana

Thanks. This election has me so stressed out that I had not been posting much...but posting is better than sitting around pouting! ;)

And there are sane people here!

Beautiful...I get the shivers whenever I see the Kotel.

and may your eyes see the Third Temple

717 sawblade88  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:04:18pm

re: #608 Sylvester_T_Cat
re: sign theft

I would assume that the authorities would need to tie a specific sign to a specific place. Putting your name or DL# sounds like a bad idea, though. Maybe the serial number from a dollar bill (hold onto it, or course). That would give you identification to report, and should stand examination.

718 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:04:36pm

re: #696 maddogg

Darn, it works.

My Windows Media Center went missing, and so far NY Grampa can't get it back. Weird. And very, very frustrating.

719 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:05:23pm

re: #716 WrathofG-d

May it be in our lifetime...

720 arethusa  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:08:18pm

There's a Palin interview on CNN now. I think she's doing well.

721 jsk1121  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:08:30pm

re: #719 NY Nana

May it be in our lifetime...

Wait, that would mean all the Pals are out of Israel, right? Where do I sign up?

722 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:09:05pm

re: #699 Soona'

That's great. Then you pay for them out of your own pocket. I am not financially responsible for the upbringing of your child. As a matter of fact, I'm not responsible any aspect of your child's well-being.

As a Christian, it is my responsibility to help the (genuinely) poor and disabled, as well as to improve the lot of my community. I should give what I can to help others.
As a Christian, I cannot condone pointing a gun at someone else's head and compelling them to cough up money for that purpose. That ain't charity. That is theft.

723 alien_mind  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:09:19pm

re: #675 ploome hineni
that's a chicago thing, you don't step foot in the city without paying through the nose.

724 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:10:56pm

re: #25 opnion

I hope that this bus has bullit proof windows.
There is derangement in the land.

Paint balls and .22 fired at it. It looks like.

725 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:11:16pm

How do we southerners think?

726 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:12:25pm

re: #725 maddogg

How do we southerners think?

That is fucking awesome.

727 Dianna  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:13:01pm

re: #725 maddogg

How do we southerners think?

I've read that southerners can be as opaque as the Japanese. It's just that southerners do it with a smile and, "By and large, they were very nice folks."

728 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:13:17pm

re: #703 Spiny Norman

No matter who wins, this election will mark the point where the Mainstream Media lost it's last shreds of credibility with the vast majority of its viewers.

Vast majority? I don't think so. If a vast majority were all that sceptical, BHO wouldn't be so high in the polls right now.

People say the MSM is dead. Not so. They are alive and well and on the verge of putting an absurdly unqualified candidate into the office of POTUS.

729 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:14:27pm

re: #722 wolfie

As a Christian, it is my responsibility to help the (genuinely) poor and disabled, as well as to improve the lot of my community. I should give what I can to help others.
As a Christian, I cannot condone pointing a gun at someone else's head and compelling them to cough up money for that purpose. That ain't charity. That is theft.


Wolfe,
Can you imagine what the world would be like if true charity began where the Bible said it should?
The churches taking care of the Widow,orphan and disabled?
Instead we have multimillion dollar churches with jets,Theme
parks and resorts.etc........Oy!

730 jimsaco  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:14:37pm

Direct from the lips of Kos today:

"Cindy Sheehan is going insane, obviously paranoid and delusional. It's weird and tragic."

731 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:15:10pm

Cindy for President!

732 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:15:24pm

re: #688 WrathofG-d

That would be a "shaking" of the standing "truce". Don't mock it. Arabs want peace.

Wrath -

Did you forget an /s? Or have they suddenly passed the Golda Meir test - loving their children MORE than they HATE OURS? Pray Tell.

-S-

733 hazzyday  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:15:37pm

I am amused at the honest Democrats that enjoy letting the fringies control their party. Denial is very high. Constant rationalizations and avoidance of any real issues. Just a lot of wishful thinking. The media needs to vet Sen. Obama more. It's going to kick them in the ass, regardless of the election outcome.

An experienced President McCain who has seen war is much less likely to go to war then a Sen Obama unfamiliar with power and thin skinned.

734 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:15:46pm

re: #725 maddogg

How do we southerners think?


Loader Approves this message!
LOL

735 opnion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:16:06pm

re: #720 arethusa

There's a Palin interview on CNN now. I think she's doing well.

No matter how well she does, it is not good enough for the MSM.
They have set the bar for her impossibly high.
You may have heard that they think that McCain's runningmate lacks experience. McCain has that in common with Biden.

736 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:16:27pm

re: #730 jimsaco

Going?

737 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:16:46pm

San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I guess they done forgot about AIDS out there. Well dam bring back the baths also.

738 maddogg  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:17:29pm

re: #727 Dianna

I've read that southerners can be as opaque as the Japanese. It's just that southerners do it with a smile and, "By and large, they were very nice folks."

We are, Dianna, but grudges can be held for a very, very long time...

739 NY Nana  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:17:47pm

re: #721 jsk1121

Wait, that would mean all the Pals are out of Israel, right? Where do I sign up?

If only....but it can still happen. Israel also has to vote for the best man...in Israel's case, the best party..just look at what is happening in both countries. Feh.

But there is still hope for both countries. Tzippi is no Hussein, but she is no Golda, either...she is a politician first, whereas Golda was a true Zionist, and wanted what was best for Israel.

740 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:17:58pm

re: #732 Dr. Shalit

Wrath -

Did you forget an /s? Or have they suddenly passed the Golda Meir test - loving their children MORE than they HATE OURS? Pray Tell.

-S-

I forget a BIG s/ figured it would be obvious!

741 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:18:21pm

re: #729 reloadingisnotahobby

AMEN !

742 opnion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:18:42pm

re: #728 wolfie

Vast majority? I don't think so. If a vast majority were all that sceptical, BHO wouldn't be so high in the polls right now.

People say the MSM is dead. Not so. They are alive and well and on the verge of putting an absurdly unqualified candidate into the office of POTUS.

Sadly I kind of agree. BHO is largely a Media created & nurtured candidate. On the other hand, the MSM does not have the cache that they once had, but apparently the retain enough.

743 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:18:44pm

re: #737 Nevergiveup

San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I guess they done forgot about AIDS out there. Well dam bring back the baths also.

I thought they already had, or at least decided it was "an unconstitutional violation of privacy" to police them.

744 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:18:45pm

re: #730 jimsaco

Direct from the lips of Kos today:

"Cindy Sheehan is going insane, obviously paranoid and delusional. It's weird and tragic."

"js" -

The Soviets used to be really good at making people "non-persons." Looks like "KOS" is a good student.

-S-

745 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:19:26pm

For those who still retain their sense of humor and are willing to visit Dkos....
Daily Show: What the Phock?

It's a little painful to watch but they're having some great fun over this.

746 snowcrash  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:19:36pm

re: #728 wolfie
Yep, they will not be denied this chance to be kingmaker. It is so obvious to us but maybe not others.

747 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:20:09pm

re: #738 maddogg

We are, Dianna, but grudges can be held for a very, very long time...

Let me tell you about the other kid in kindergarten that stepped on my bean that I was growing in a milk carton.

/still not completely over it

748 arethusa  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:21:11pm

re: #735 opnion

No matter how well she does, it is not good enough for the MSM.
They have set the bar for her impossibly high.
You may have heard that they think that McCain's runningmate lacks experience. McCain has that in common with Biden.

Of course, but she just went to town on the interviewer (Drew someone), telling him that if she had said what Biden said about Obama and an international crisis, the media would have been baying for her blood. He said, "You are right."

I'm a little shocked.

749 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:21:23pm

re: #743 Spiny Norman

I thought they already had, or at least decided it was "an unconstitutional violation of privacy" to police them.

I know they did. That was just to show what San Fran and liberals really care about inmportant health issues.

750 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:21:50pm

i can do it, i will look into it and get back to yall,, if it is ok with the big guy that is


re: #670 Nevergiveup

I'm in!

751 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:22:26pm

re: #748 arethusa

Of course, but she just went to town on the interviewer (Drew someone), telling him that if she had said what Biden said about Obama and an international crisis, the media would have been baying for her blood. He said, "You are right."

I'm a little shocked.

I love Sarah Palin.

752 El Lizardo mejicano  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:22:32pm

Powder-laced letters sent to banks in 9 cities

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Sounds like Kool-Aid to me.

Probably directed to Barney Frank and associates.

753 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:22:33pm

re: #742 opnion

re: #746 snowcrash

On a slightly more positive note, the ranks of the infidels who distrust and dislike the MSM have been augmented by at least a couple of million PUMAs. Every little bit helps.

754 Nevergiveup  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:23:08pm

No brain scans in released Biden medical records

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

Why should there be. No brain, no need for brain scans as I see it?

755 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:23:12pm

re: #729 reloadingisnotahobby

Wolfe,
Can you imagine what the world would be like if true charity began where the Bible said it should?
The churches taking care of the Widow,orphan and disabled?
Instead we have multimillion dollar churches with jets,Theme
parks and resorts.etc........Oy!

That's because the government took over one of the largest responsibilities of the church which is charity. With everything taken care of by Uncle Sugar, the church has acted in a very human fashion: Let's spend all this extra money on ourselves.

756 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:24:23pm

re: #728 wolfie

"People say the MSM is dead. Not so. They are alive and well and on the verge of putting an absurdly unqualified candidate into the office of POTUS."

I agree. And, the MSM also appears to have forgotten its obligations to the public -- that is, to keep the public informed -- not propagandized. (If Glenn Beck was, actually, given a push -- as opposed to its being entirely of his free will/choice and within 2 weeks of the election -- then the MSM is also suppressing Free Speech and actively Obstructing the dissemination of information regarding a potential candidate for POTUS. (btw, I also recall Beck asking people on his program -- a few weeks ago, I believe to the author of Liberal Fascism -- the question: "Isn't the MSM acting almost criminally?" not quoting verbatim, but Beck used the term "criminally". Beck did not refer to CNN directly, but to the MSM.)

757 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:24:25pm

The media may not be dead after this, but hopefully the effect of the word racist on public discourse will be. That may be sad, given that racism should be stigmatized utterly, but then, it hasn't been used exclusively to refer to abuse based on ancestry for some time, and certainly not in this election season.

OT: Jay Nordlinger's columns from Iraq from last week are a good read if you haven't yet, at NRO.

758 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:24:48pm

re: #755 Soona'
True ........Sad but true!

759 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:25:14pm

re: #744 Dr. Shalit

"js" -

The Soviets used to be really good at making people "non-persons." Looks like "KOS" is a good student.

-S-

Of course he is, although I'd substitute "toadying lickspittle" for "student".

760 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:25:52pm

We're talking about some data in my Stats class regarding media created negativity towards elections and candidates.

He said that they go negative against the guy in the lead, because what good is it to attack the loser.

I was this close to asking him why then, does the media constantly attack John McCain and not Barack Obama, if Obama is "in the lead"?

761 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:26:17pm

re: #752 El Lizardo mejicano

A city official in suburban Chicago, where two letters showed up at a Chase credit card processing center, said they were mailed from Amarillo, Texas.blockquote>They weren't sent from a Kinkos about 15 minutes from Bill Burkett's house, were they?

/what kind of idiot pulls stunts like this?

762 opnion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:27:07pm

re: #748 arethusa

Of course, but she just went to town on the interviewer (Drew someone), telling him that if she had said what Biden said about Obama and an international crisis, the media would have been baying for her blood. He said, "You are right."

I'm a little shocked.

I think that Sarah does well, it's just that the MSM wants to make her a punchline.
A friend of mine who is really down with Barry, said that he could not vote for McCain because of choosing Palin. His reason, "She's stupid"
His proof? "Look at all of the colleges she went to."
I said 'You are viewing this wrong. She got into each one honestly . with no help from Affirmative Action. Could you say that about Baraack & Michelle?" He actually conceded my point.

763 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:27:12pm

re: #759 Spiny Norman

Of course he is, although I'd substitute "toadying lickspittle" for "student".

Thats the 2d time toadying lickspittle has been used today. Hoping for another "Accursed Mountebank" sighting.

764 arethusa  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:27:41pm

re: #760 TheMatrix31


I was this close to asking him why then, does the media constantly attack John McCain and not Barack Obama, if Obama is "in the lead"?

They can't read the polls right?/

Or, Obama's not actually in the lead?/

I'd really love to hear your teacher's answer if anyone ever asks him that question.

765 El Lizardo mejicano  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:28:03pm

How Felons Who Vote Can Tip an Election

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

God help us.

766 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:29:48pm

re: #764 arethusa

They can't read the polls right?/

Or, Obama's not actually in the lead?/

I'd really love to hear your teacher's answer if anyone ever asks him that question.

The only reason I did not ask is because this isn't a direct political science class, more of a data analysis class.

767 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:30:05pm

re: #760 TheMatrix31

I was this close to asking him why then, does the media constantly attack John McCain and not Barack Obama, if Obama is "in the lead"?

Predicted answer:

"The media isn't attacking McCain. It's attacking Obama! Look at the ACORN smear, and that Ayers nonsense, and making a hero out of Joe the Plumber, who, by the way, doesn't even have a license."

768 Pepper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:30:41pm

re: #209 Silhouette

The average enlisted soldier can little afford political contributions, not that it does not occur. The most likely contributions would come from career minded officers for whom political motivations would be more likely as well as party affiliation. The senior staff officers would be very interested in having a documented record which would not be a deterrent to a beneficial position. They would probably be the higher proportion of contributions based on earnings and availability of disposable income.

Overall, the military supports elected officials who are good for the country in a soldiers' view.

DOD civilians may have an affinity to identify with the military and/or branch to which they work likewise contractors. Wthin the DOD sphere, a diversity of opinion does exist as to political persuasion, but local politics would prevail to a greater extent.

769 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:30:59pm

re: #765 El Lizardo mejicano

How Felons Who Vote Can Tip an Election

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

God help us.

Alinski's getting his wish as far as this election is concerned: Chaos.

770 arethusa  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:31:01pm

San Francisco is becoming the new Amsterdam? They're talking about legalizing prostitution.

771 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:31:12pm

OT - Russia, Iran and Qatar made the first serious moves Tuesday toward forming an OPEC-style cartel on natural gas.

What could possibly go wrong?

772 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:31:49pm

re: #767 Silhouette

Predicted answer:

"The media isn't attacking McCain. It's attacking Obama! Look at the ACORN smear, and that Ayers nonsense, and making a hero out of Joe the Plumber, who, by the way, doesn't even have a license."


"Plus, look how few corporations control the media, and we all know corporations always support republicans, so of course they are attacking democrats. "
From the Chompsky dept of "We don't need evidence, we have Theories!"

773 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:32:07pm

re: #756 J.S.

The baby boomer generation is in power now. Whatever vestiges of there once were of a sense of a duty to inform are apparently gone.

What IS information, anyway? Someone has to choose what is "useful" and what is not. Do not the Enlightened Ones have a better sense of that than we? Have they not informed us that Obama is the One?

The point is not to understand the world, but to change it.- K. Marx

What is truth? - Pontius Pilate

774 El Lizardo mejicano  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:35:38pm

re: #770 arethusa

San Francisco is becoming the new Amsterdam? They're talking about legalizing prostitution.

San Fran has been Sodom and Gomorrah for many years, they are just put in it on paper, that's all.

775 formercorpsman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:36:11pm

Charles, I looked at your thread regarding Bolton and his take on Biden. Excellent topic of discussion.

Looking at the spinoff links, I just can't get it out of my head, with now having Powell made a similar statement, with specific dating, and Albright corroborating, we know this will not get one bit of traction in the media.

Is this something we could discuss more?

776 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:39:14pm

re: #760 TheMatrix31

We're talking about some data in my Stats class regarding media created negativity towards elections and candidates.

He said that they go negative against the guy in the lead, because what good is it to attack the loser.

I was this close to asking him why then, does the media constantly attack John McCain and not Barack Obama, if Obama is "in the lead"?

You should have asked hat question!

777 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:42:29pm

re: #735 opnion

No matter how well she does, it is not good enough for the MSM.
They have set the bar for her impossibly high.
You may have heard that they think that McCain's runningmate lacks experience. McCain has that in common with Biden.

Opinion -

Given my choice of the "Four" - I'd vote for Gov. Palin in a heartbeat. Sen. McCain is a genuine hero - AND - was co-sponsor of the campaign financing bill that might bury him. Sen. Biden is a Buffoon. Sen. Obama has less qualifications to RUN THINGS - at least successfully - than any of the other three. Ergo, of the "FOUR" - Gov. Palin just might be THE most Qualified to be the Next President of the United States.
Take it up a notch - Assuming all goes well, Gov. Palin has broken a "log-jam" with reference to bringing Alaska Natural Gas to the "Lower 48."
NONE of the other 3 have such an accomplishment on their resume. Stripping out all of the "Rizz-Razz" - the best of the "4 Men" - is the WO-MAN, much as I would prefer NOT to admit it.

-S-

778 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:42:45pm

re: #776 Sharmuta

You should have asked hat question!

We're talking about income share of the national income for the bottom 10% v. the percentage of Socialists in Cabinets of countries. It's the topic for our data essay for next week. I'll post the prompt later if you guys are interested.

779 loveguru  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:46:21pm

Ahoy room !

780 opnion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:46:22pm

re: #777 Dr. Shalit

Opinion -

Given my choice of the "Four" - I'd vote for Gov. Palin in a heartbeat. Sen. McCain is a genuine hero - AND - was co-sponsor of the campaign financing bill that might bury him. Sen. Biden is a Buffoon. Sen. Obama has less qualifications to RUN THINGS - at least successfully - than any of the other three. Ergo, of the "FOUR" - Gov. Palin just might be THE most Qualified to be the Next President of the United States.
Take it up a notch - Assuming all goes well, Gov. Palin has broken a "log-jam" with reference to bringing Alaska Natural Gas to the "Lower 48."
NONE of the other 3 have such an accomplishment on their resume. Stripping out all of the "Rizz-Razz" - the best of the "4 Men" - is the WO-MAN, much as I would prefer NOT to admit it.

-S-


Actually I agree with you aboutg Sarah Palin. My comment was really meant to point out the hypocricy of the people that drone on about she being inexperienced but give BHO a pass.
I have never been a big McCain supporter, but the alternative is heinous.
Of the four, I would prefer Palin.

781 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:47:14pm

re: #777 Dr. Shalit

the best of the "4 Men" - is the WO-MAN, much as I would prefer NOT to admit it.

Why not admit it?

782 Soona'  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:47:28pm

re: #777 Dr. Shalit

Opinion -

Given my choice of the "Four" - I'd vote for Gov. Palin in a heartbeat. Sen. McCain is a genuine hero - AND - was co-sponsor of the campaign financing bill that might bury him. Sen. Biden is a Buffoon. Sen. Obama has less qualifications to RUN THINGS - at least successfully - than any of the other three. Ergo, of the "FOUR" - Gov. Palin just might be THE most Qualified to be the Next President of the United States.
Take it up a notch - Assuming all goes well, Gov. Palin has broken a "log-jam" with reference to bringing Alaska Natural Gas to the "Lower 48."
NONE of the other 3 have such an accomplishment on their resume. Stripping out all of the "Rizz-Razz" - the best of the "4 Men" - is the WO-MAN, much as I would prefer NOT to admit it.

-S-

But, as Rush said once about Palin, I wouldn't mind watching Sarah grow old in the Oval Office.

783 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:48:05pm

but amsterdam just elected a muslim mayor,, maybe the free flowing drugs and sex will become a thing of the past, or just move to SFO

re: #774 El Lizardo mejicano

San Fran has been Sodom and Gomorrah for many years, they are just put in it on paper, that's all.

784 wolfie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:48:08pm

re: #774 El Lizardo mejicano

Hey, Lizardo!
Any thoughts on the Mex-American vote?

Not too many Hispanics around here in the Virginia mountains. Most that I've talked to will probably vote Democrat, but they don't have the same swooning enthusiasm over Obama that non-Hispanic whites and blacks do.

785 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:48:24pm

re: #778 TheMatrix31

We're talking about income share of the national income for the bottom 10% v. the percentage of Socialists in Cabinets of countries. It's the topic for our data essay for next week. I'll post the prompt later if you guys are interested.

Wait- what? Are they prepping you for socialism now?

786 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:50:07pm

re: #777 Dr. Shalit

Opinion -

Given my choice of the "Four" - I'd vote for Gov. Palin in a heartbeat. Sen. McCain is a genuine hero - AND - was co-sponsor of the campaign financing bill that might bury him. Sen. Biden is a Buffoon. Sen. Obama has less qualifications to RUN THINGS - at least successfully - than any of the other three. Ergo, of the "FOUR" - Gov. Palin just might be THE most Qualified to be the Next President of the United States.
Take it up a notch - Assuming all goes well, Gov. Palin has broken a "log-jam" with reference to bringing Alaska Natural Gas to the "Lower 48."
NONE of the other 3 have such an accomplishment on their resume. Stripping out all of the "Rizz-Razz" - the best of the "4 Men" - is the WO-MAN, much as I would prefer NOT to admit it.

-S-

What's wrong with her being a woman?

787 nikis-knight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:51:07pm

re: #778 TheMatrix31

We're talking about income share of the national income for the bottom 10% v. the percentage of Socialists in Cabinets of countries. It's the topic for our data essay for next week. I'll post the prompt later if you guys are interested.

Find the Beer economics blurb that was posted today and yesterday here.

788 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:51:42pm

Dam, NBC Nightly News just trotted out and took ten minutes explaining their own shameless propaganda poll. It seems Lord President Obama has an insurmountable ten point lead, wipes out McCain in every internal category, and Sarah Palin is bad, very bad, no one likes her.

/oh and the Bonkeys will get a veto proof Senate for sure, Republicans may as well just give up now, because this election is obviously over

789 SpartanWoman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:56:03pm

After the Biden "international crisis" comment, Albright's "statement of fact" remark and Franks yapping about raising taxes, I am starting to wonder if they are trying to warn the public, sort of send up flares. I thought Jesse Jackson's zionist comments in Evian was peculiar, why would he telegraph a policy that would scare away many voters? But it makes sense if these people are a bit afraid of Obama too and need to "get the word out" without seemeing to deliberately undermine him.

They may want to look supportive so they don't reap the negative whirlwind of going against Obama.

All these policy gaffes are either sabotage or severe overconfidence.

790 bcgirl  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 3:59:45pm

this is a very interesting line of thought, you could be onto something

re: #789 SpartanWoman

After the Biden "international crisis" comment, Albright's "statement of fact" remark and Franks yapping about raising taxes, I am starting to wonder if they are trying to warn the public, sort of send up flares. I thought Jesse Jackson's zionist comments in Evian was peculiar, why would he telegraph a policy that would scare away many voters? But it makes sense if these people are a bit afraid of Obama too and need to "get the word out" without seemeing to deliberately undermine him.

They may want to look supportive so they don't reap the negative whirlwind of going against Obama.

All these policy gaffes are either sabotage or severe overconfidence.

791 scion9  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:00:10pm

re: #789 SpartanWoman


They may want to look supportive so they don't reap the negative whirlwind of going against Obama wind up like Vince Foster.

792 arethusa  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:00:16pm

re: #789 SpartanWoman


All these policy gaffes are either sabotage or severe overconfidence.


I pick the latter. I've watched Democrats screw themselves over time and again from too much overconfidence.

793 JSK1121  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:00:33pm

re: #789 SpartanWoman

After the Biden "international crisis" comment, Albright's "statement of fact" remark and Franks yapping about raising taxes, I am starting to wonder if they are trying to warn the public, sort of send up flares. I thought Jesse Jackson's zionist comments in Evian was peculiar, why would he telegraph a policy that would scare away many voters? But it makes sense if these people are a bit afraid of Obama too and need to "get the word out" without seemeing to deliberately undermine him.

They may want to look supportive so they don't reap the negative whirlwind of going against Obama.

All these policy gaffes are either sabotage or severe overconfidence.

It's definitely overconfidence. Don't forget, Frank's got a track record of high taxes and Jesse 'Hymietown' Jackson has a track record of Jew hatred. They're just being honest.

794 nyc redneck  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:04:32pm

re: #792 arethusa

I pick the latter. I've watched Democrats screw themselves over time and again from too much overconfidence.

i agree. i think they are so confident they are going to win, they believe they can literally say anything, at this point, and suffer no repercussions.

795 El Lizardo mejicano  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:09:14pm

re: #784 wolfie

Hey, Lizardo!
Any thoughts on the Mex-American vote?

Not too many Hispanics around here in the Virginia mountains. Most that I've talked to will probably vote Democrat, but they don't have the same swooning enthusiasm over Obama that non-Hispanic whites and blacks do.

The "True" Conservatives are voting McCain, for the most part mexicans vote Democrat, the only change is that they really liked Hillaria and some of them converted to PUMAS Mexicanas, they see the messiah as another messiah from Mexico City 2 years ago, they just dont trust him.

796 El Lizardo mejicano  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:11:01pm

re: #784 wolfie

Hey, Lizardo!
Any thoughts on the Mex-American vote?

Not too many Hispanics around here in the Virginia mountains. Most that I've talked to will probably vote Democrat, but they don't have the same swooning enthusiasm over Obama that non-Hispanic whites and blacks do.


Cubans in Miami DO NOT WANT another Castro, believe me.

797 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:11:47pm

re: #796 El Lizardo mejicano

Cubans in Miami DO NOT WANT another Castro, believe me.


Fixed

798 Nightlight  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:12:24pm

Just some examples where the media refuses to tell the truth of Obama's childhood:

Obama, 47, grew up in Hawaii and moved to Chicago in the 1980s. He was elected in 1996 to the state's Senate, representing the city's South Side for eight years before his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004.

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]


Robert Gibbs, the campaign's communications director, said Monday in a statement that "Senator Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, has always been one of the most important people in his life. Along with his mother and his grandfather, she raised him in Hawaii from the time he was born until the moment he left for college. As he said at the Democratic Convention, she poured everything she had into him."

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

799 El Lizardo mejicano  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:15:40pm

re: #797 HoosierHoops

Fixed

Cubans in Miami WE DO NOT WANT another Castro, believe me.

Fixed again.

800 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 4:23:20pm
801 guzziguy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 5:09:32pm

re: #338 odinga

This video is like the election. We know who the show off is.

That may be the funniest thing I've ever seen.

802 Carolina Kathy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 5:21:36pm

Great Video! odinga - thanks I needed that!

803 J.S.  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 5:37:25pm

re: #798 Nightlight

Now that really is incredible! Breathtaking...Then they wonder why they have Zero Credibility?

804 talon_262  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 5:49:44pm

re: #80 Arkay

Utterly ineffective.

Gah.

Is THIS the best we can do? A black guy in a cowboy hat, three fat white middle aged male Republican operatives, and Sarah! paperbacks!?!?

No wonder we're behind in the frapping polls!

I've called on my local McCain office twice in the last month here in Macomb County, asking to assist. They never have gotten back to me, not once.

Does anyone really want to win this thing?

Bitch, bitch, bitch, whine, whine, whine....

While I agree in principle that McCain needs to be more aggressive against Obama and his cohorts, I'm not gonna stake my vote on whether he does so or not. My concern is the state of the nation and, while McCain was not initially my choice during the primaries, Obama and his liberal/socialist lackeys are going to do their level best to remake America in their image; as long as I'm able, I'll do my part to make sure that NObama and Michele My Belle never occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

In regards to your difficulties in volunteering with your local McCain office, go down there and meet face-to-face with them; I don't know why they hadn't called you back, but stuff happens.

805 bolivar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 6:10:02pm

re: #123 Sharmuta

Hillbuzz also has a great analysis of the Nickelodeon Kid's poll, where 0bama won by 2%.

The line in this article about Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama and that Michelle looks like her dresses were made of the couch material Grandma used to have (the one cats peed on) is an absolute scream!

806 Carolina Kathy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 6:59:55pm

#80, As a GOP volunteer I can tell you that if you are seriously interested in helping, go down to the GOP headquarters in your area and volunteer. Nobody is going to extend a gold ingraved invitation, you have to have some initiative of your own.

If you truly want to help nobody will stop you. LOL.

But then you couldn't complain about an understaffed office not having enough time or people to pay you adequate attention. Maybe you could volunteer to call volunteers - and it sounds like your local office needs someone. Be part of the solution instead of part of the problem, it's your choice.

807 Ledger1  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:31:47am

re: #156 tfc3rid

It should have been done long ago.

They take up space, weight and fuel.

I would recommend that McCain look the E&P tally of which newspapers have endorsed Obama and bar them from his plane or other vehicles.

McCain doesn’t need Obama’s shills taking up oxygen on his Campaign plane.


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