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Open | Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:41:13 pm PDT

Peace is peaceful.

The Dude, The Big Lebowski

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1 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:42:06pm

I am The One

2 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:43:01pm

We have intellectual veracity on our side, we will win. Thomas Jefferson's dream of Democratic voice is not dead yet

3 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:43:07pm

re: #1 odinga

I am The One

I thought Odinga was just supported by The Zero.

4 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:43:28pm

I am Joe the Plumber.

5 ShumBaayaMyLord  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:43:38pm

The Dude said that? What scene? I'm not disputing that he might have said that, but I've seen the film multiple times and I don't recall that particular line.

Charles?

6 Metal Man  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:44:07pm

And all critical thought about the One is Racist.

The Dems.

7 Bobibutu  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:44:23pm

I am tired and about ready to go down.

8 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:44:30pm

Hand me that pipe snake, willya?

9 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:44:33pm

I love the Dude.

10 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:45:31pm

Murtha - people who don't vote for Obama are racist. Oh hell, I mean, they are rednecks. Shit, wait - they are white trash. DAMMIT.. EIGHT MORE YEARS, WE DON'T NEED EIGHT MORE YEARS

11 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:45:53pm

No, not the closet auger. The other one.

13 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:47:24pm

Did the dude already go to bed?

14 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:47:27pm

WOW! The euro went below $1.30 today and gold is $768.

15 JohnAdams  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:47:27pm

Reposting from a previous thread, re Sarah Palin.

In a frank discussion today with a friend, he said: "They hate her because she's a WOMAN! She's sexy, she's SMART, she's fertile, she's in charge, she procreates, she has a stud husband, she likes to f*$K!

She's a force. She uses what she's got and takes no excuses. I love Sarah. She can be my president any day because she gets people.

16 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:47:28pm

Yeah. "The Biden."
You crank that one and you never know what's gonna come out.

17 Miss Molly  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:47:40pm

I am Joe the Plummer and proud to be able to hang out with him.

18 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:48:10pm
19 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:48:29pm

re: #7 Bobibutu

I am tired and about ready to go down.

Bobibutu,
You wrote something yesterday to me and I wanted to thank you but you weren't around. So, here's a belated thanks, ok?
;)

20 JohnAdams  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:48:33pm

Who are the nihilists for?

21 Cartman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:48:52pm

Note to Realwest: If you're still logged in, please check your e-mail, bub.

22 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:49:00pm

re: #17 Miss Molly

I am Joe the Plummer and proud to be able to hang out with him.

You just referred to yourself in the first and third person at the same time.

23 NelsFree  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:49:58pm

A day without sunshine is, like, night, man...

24 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:50:04pm

re: #20 JohnAdams

Who are the nihilists for?

The Zero, of course.

25 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:50:11pm

Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.

26 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:51:13pm

re: #22 cliffster

You just referred to yourself in the first and third person at the same time.

Well, there's your problem. You've got the hot side and the cold side connected wrong.

27 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:51:21pm

What did Murtha have to say about Northeastern Pennsylvania? Is that part salvagable because some bigwigs from NYC or Philly have vacation homes up there?

/I can think of a couple of things to do in Scranton over a few days

28 thelongblogger  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:51:33pm

re: #22 cliffster

You just referred to yourself in the first and third person at the same time.

Schizophrenia means never having to go to bed alone.

29 splendid confusion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:51:58pm

That rug really tied the room together.

30 GreenSoccer  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:52:01pm

read

[Link: townhall.com...]

This is news! Prager's column reveals the story behind Prop 8 in Calfiornia. Simply unbelievable!

31 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:52:04pm

Ayers Radio Interview: STILL Anarchist Marxist

This ought to sink Lord President For Life Obama in America, but who knows, maybe the majority of Americans want to sit back, dishonor our veterans, accept defeat, and try not suck.

/they want peaceful revolution, right back at them

32 cliffster  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:53:24pm

re: #29 splendid confusion

That rug really tied the room together.

I just bought a nice rug, and it really tied my room together. I like my rug, however much the Dude might make fun of me.

33 crusty  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:53:30pm

re: #1 odinga

I am The One

Manyness and oneness are studied as they relate to otherness. (Students achieving oneness move ahead to twoness.)

-"Spring Bulletin", Woody Allen

34 NelsFree  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:53:43pm

I tried talking to three college-age Obamatons at Home Depot recently. They were oblivious of any facts about The One. Amazing.

35 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:53:55pm

Dude: Did you ever hear of "The Seattle Seven"?
Maude: Mmm.
Dude: That was me... and six other guys

36 Bobibutu  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:54:15pm

re: #19 Irene NYC

Bobibutu,
You wrote something yesterday to me and I wanted to thank you but you weren't around. So, here's a belated thanks, ok?
;)

OK - and yes I am remiss - and do a lot of drive buys. You are welcome.

37 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:54:27pm

re: #31 Killian Bundy

Ayers Radio Interview: STILL Anarchist Marxist

This ought to sink Lord President For Life Obama in America, but who knows, maybe the majority of Americans want to sit back, dishonor our veterans, accept defeat, and try not suck.

/they want peaceful revolution, right back at them

To repost what I said on the last thread about this:

Bill O'Reilly used the 2002 Ayers interview tonight and it is nothing short of damning. I hope the wider audience he gave it will convice some more people to vote for McCain. I think it will.

38 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:54:44pm

Obama did that didn't he? I bet he said that spreading the hot side around like that would be "better for everybody." Dumbass. Now, if you like a tepid shower, let me know and we can put it back.

39 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:55:12pm

re: #25 logboy

Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.

I hate Illinois Nazis.

40 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:55:38pm

I've seen that movie dozens of times and don't recall that line either! LOL
At this point I'd rather vote for the Dude.

41 splendid confusion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:55:40pm

Dude: You know he's got emotional problems, man.

Walter: Beyond pacifism?

Whew, doesn't that hit the nail on the head for quite a lot of our linguine-spined politicians? The Big Lebowski rocks.

42 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:56:58pm

I also love the First Dude.

43 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:57:16pm

re: #39 gmsc

I hate Illinois Nazis.

Elwood: Illinois Nazis.
Jake: I hate Illinois Nazis.

44 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:58:02pm

I happen to believe that some parts of the country ARE more patriotic than other parts of the country. We call them Red States.

45 splendid confusion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:58:20pm

#32 Cliffster

A rug can really tie a room together. Unfortunately, at our house the rug seems to be held together by all the dog hair. It's everywhere!

46 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:58:21pm

I hate Oprah. This is her fault for introducing him to the public.

47 StudSupreme  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:58:44pm

re: #31 Killian Bundy

Ayers Radio Interview: STILL Anarchist Marxist

This ought to sink Lord President For Life Obama in America, but who knows, maybe the majority of Americans want to sit back, dishonor our veterans, accept defeat, and try not suck.

/they want peaceful revolution, right back at them

You're assuming that the Ayers radio interview will be widely heard around the country, and that those who hear it will deal with it rationally and start to distance themselves from Comrade Obama.

48 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 9:59:11pm

re: #46 Teacake!

I hate Oprah. This is her fault for introducing him to the public.

No, it was John F-ing Kerry and the DNC who brought him to national attention.

49 StudSupreme  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:04pm

re: #34 NelsFree

I tried talking to three college-age Obamatons at Home Depot recently. They were oblivious of any facts about The One. Amazing.

But not surprising.
They're enjoying the feeling of being part of the Wave.
That's why mass movements appeal most of all to the young. They feel it's really cool to be part of something so big, kind of like at a stadium-size rock concert.

50 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:04pm

I think more people saw the Oprah show when she had him as a guest and announced this is the next POTUS.

51 splendid confusion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:16pm

My fifth grader had a worksheet for homework about limited vs. unlimited government. I fear we are swinging fast toward the latter. He did have to define oligarchy and totalitarianism, plus dictator--which may all come in useful, too.

52 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:25pm

Midnight at Chez Harb.

Good night, y'all.

53 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:29pm

re: #50 Teacake!

I think more people saw the Oprah show when she had him as a guest and announced this is the next POTUS.

I stand corrected. You are right, of course!
;)

54 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:38pm

The Big Lebowski: Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?

55 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:42pm

I think I'd rather think about the Dude and calm down.

56 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:00:43pm

realwest- if you're still here, Stevieray had an excellent point in the previous thread. He said you're using two firewalls. That or using two anti-virus programs that can cause buku problems.
Numerous anti-spyware programs are okay, I run six of them, but more than one firewall or anti-virus program can lead to conflicts.

57 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:01:49pm

re: #47 StudSupreme

You're assuming that the Ayers radio interview will be widely heard around the country, and that those who hear it will deal with it rationally and start to distance themselves from Comrade Obama.

Its been on The O'Reilly Factor. That about as much free mass media as we can hope for. Ads will be needed to do more. That said, those who hear that interview and are not already in the tank for BHO will be angered by what they hear. We can turn that anger into votes.

58 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:02:01pm

Didn't mean to be dismissive Irene. Just that I think she has a huge audience. I never heard of him until that horrid day. LOL Got rid of the TV shortly after that.

59 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:02:42pm

re: #35 logboy

Hey, Lord President For Life Obama has promised the electorate that he's going to pill a brigade a month out of Iraq, starting in January, until they're all out, hell or high water. What's you're opinion on that?

/nevermind that it's a fantasy

60 pink freud  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:02:43pm

re: #18 odinga

battleground Poll: I hope this trend is real

You may like this from American Thinker, odinga ....interesting read on the battleground poll.

Thanks for your link. It's been forwarded on already.

61 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:03:02pm

zombie,

If you come to this thread later, just wanted to let you know that tfk was having some sort of a meltdown waitin' for you on the last thread. Something awful - never saw tfk so anxious before.

Is he sweet on you or something?

;)

62 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:03:31pm

re: #58 Teacake!

Didn't mean to be dismissive Irene. Just that I think she has a huge audience. I never heard of him until that horrid day. LOL Got rid of the TV shortly after that.

And I didn't take it that way at all.
;)

63 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:03:33pm

re: #55 Teacake!

I think I'd rather think about the Dude and calm down.

Dude. Come on, you're being very un-Dude

64 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:03:55pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Its been on The O'Reilly Factor. That about as much free mass media as we can hope for. Ads will be needed to do more. That said, those who hear that interview and are not already in the tank for BHO will be angered by what they hear. We can turn that anger into votes.

Great showed it tonight too.

65 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:03:56pm

Ozark Mountain Daredevil - not to complicate things again, but how do you find out if you have more than one firewall? I have a few things and I don't know if they all have firewalls. Spybot and AVG and I have no idea how to shut off the Windows one or if I should.

66 splendid confusion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:04:16pm

#58 Teacake and Irene
We yanked our kids from a school for a variety of reasons, but one of the top ten was that the principal tivoed Oprah everyday and just raved about her. The Oprahfication of middle class women may have led to some of this "hope and change" baloney.

67 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:04:20pm

PIMF GRETA not Great

/Okay, I'm out of here.

68 tackle  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:05:04pm

re: #30 GreenSoccer

Wow - I didn't realize that the amendment had been reworded. Now its supporters are made to look like bigots.

69 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:05:09pm

Hell hath no fury like a Woman scorned. I hope the PUMA woman are pissing bullets and out for revenge.

Puma Video Of Hillary hatin on The One

70 Teacake!  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:05:09pm

Thats good Irene!

Suddenly got drowsy... nite all.

71 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:05:38pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

Its been on The O'Reilly Factor. That is about as much free mass media as we can hope for. Ads will be needed to do more. That said, those who hear that interview and are not already in the tank for BHO will be angered by what they hear. We can turn that anger into votes.

PIMF

72 realwest  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:05:39pm

re: #18 odinga No date on that Battleground poll?!?

73 realwest  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:06:06pm

re: #21 Cartman
Done and done my friend.

74 pink freud  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:07:00pm

re: #72 realwest

No date on that Battleground poll?!?

It's in teensy letters at the very bottom right, real .....10/14 - 10/19 (i think)

75 conservativeChick  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:07:17pm

My brothers class today did something different. Their teacher ask who would they vote for in the election if they could. All the male students expect for two said they would vote for McCain while all the female students said they vote for Obama. How did this happen? When did women become so stupid? Like blacks, women to have fallen under the socialist spell.

76 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:07:22pm

re: #59 Killian Bundy

Hey, Lord President For Life Obama has promised the electorate that he's going to pill a brigade a month out of Iraq, starting in January, until they're all out, hell or high water. What's you're opinion on that?

/nevermind that it's a fantasy

Well, they've been saying all along that Iraq is Vietnam. Now they're going to make sure it is by guaranteeing our failure. Sure am glad I gave my arm for the cause. At least I still have one arm... so I can bitch slap the Big 0 when he visits.

77 splendid confusion  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:07:48pm

#68
Oh yeah, you should see some of the tv ads out here. On the news last night a couple had had their Yes on 8 yard signs stolen, so they got a big banner to hang over their garage. Some crazy people painted up their cars with "Bigots live here! Vote no on 8!" INSANE. I keep telling Mr. Splendid that we need to get the hell out of CA, but he grew up here. My mid-western common sense tells me this state is seriously going on the skids.

78 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:08:31pm

IMO, little O's campaign is not uniting people, as he claims, but it's setting race relations in this country back 40 years, maybe more. White people cannot seem to have a discussion about the presidential race without being labeled as bigots or racists if they vote for McCain, no matter what the real reason is for their voting preference. On the other hand, blacks can vote for little O for no other reason than he is black, and that's because of "pride". Right... I tell you what. Since everything whites say nowadays seems to be a code word for "black", I've got a code word for you, and I've heard it used by several of my black friends at work. When they discuss the race, they use the word "historic". I've come to the conclusion that the word "historic", when used by a black person in reference to the presidential race, actually means "I'm voting for Obama because he's black and I'm black. That's it. And there's nothing you can say about it because you're a racist voting for McCain". It's amazing. I've also come to the conclusion that this year's presidential race is the political equivalent of the O.J. Simpson acquittal. In that case, a predominantly black jury basically said "we know he's guilty, but since white folks have gotten away with killing black folks for so many years, this is a little bit of payback. So there". This year, blacks are saying, in much greater numbers "hey, we know this guy will probably screw the country up, but he's one of us, and it's our time to be in power". In essence, it's payback time. Okay, the rant is over. Time to get off the soapbox and start ducking.

79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:08:34pm

re: #65 Teacake!

Ozark Mountain Daredevil - not to complicate things again, but how do you find out if you have more than one firewall? I have a few things and I don't know if they all have firewalls. Spybot and AVG and I have no idea how to shut off the Windows one or if I should.

To disable Windows Firewall, follow these steps:
1. Click Start.
2. Click Run.
3. Type Firewall.cpl, and then click OK.
4. On the General tab, click Off (not recommended).
5. Click OK.

80 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:09:34pm

re: #75 conservativeChick

My brothers class today did something different. Their teacher ask who would they vote for in the election if they could. All the male students expect for two said they would vote for McCain while all the female students said they vote for Obama. How did this happen? When did women become so stupid? Like blacks, women to have fallen under the socialist spell.

Its simple really:

John McCain is a man's man.

Barack Obama is a girly man.

81 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:09:53pm

re: #61 Irene NYC

zombie,

If you come to this thread later, just wanted to let you know that tfk was having some sort of a meltdown waitin' for you on the last thread. Something awful - never saw tfk so anxious before.

Is he sweet on you or something?

;)

Aint that ,Zombie is about to drop a bombshell on us, and we're just waiting on it.

82 itellu3times  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:10:12pm

re: #59 Killian Bundy

Hey, Lord President For Life Obama has promised the electorate that he's going to pull a brigade a month out of Iraq, starting in January, until they're all out, hell or high water. What's you're opinion on that?

His timing is excellent.

Even if the timing is lousy, it will likely take six months for it to go critical, and some other thing will be found to blame it on.

83 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:12:28pm

re: #65 Teacake!

Ozark Mountain Daredevil - not to complicate things again, but how do you find out if you have more than one firewall? I have a few things and I don't know if they all have firewalls. Spybot and AVG and I have no idea how to shut off the Windows one or if I should.

But, if you don't have another firewall, I'd suggest Zone Alarm Free edition It's free, and it as good or better than any you'd pay for!

84 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:12:35pm

Before I go to sleep, we're having an Arizona, actually Phoenix area, election night party. If you live in the area, come celebrate McCain's victory!

nic blue.

85 tackle  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:13:41pm

re: #77 splendid confusion

Didn't both candidates come out against gay marriage as well? Or was it the VPs? Also, I'm curious, does CA recognize civil unions?

86 conservativeChick  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:13:51pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Then why would women vote for Barrack then? I like a mans-man. The kind of man that hunts, fish, provides for his family, loyal, trust-worthy, a gentleman and doesn't cry or is more emotional or over emotional then me. I don't want a sissy, over emotional metrosexual.

87 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:15:01pm

realwest check your email! Try to send me the log file before you log off so I can start going over it.

88 pink freud  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:15:05pm

Nite all. Realwest, I'm real sorry to hear you're feeling poorly. Prayers for you now, and I hope tomorrow is better for you.

89 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:15:46pm

re: #85 tackle

Didn't both candidates come out against gay marriage as well? Or was it the VPs? Also, I'm curious, does CA recognize civil unions?

Currently, yes, but it's on the ballot in CA. After Nov., they may or may not.

90 Cartman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:16:42pm

FWIW, I am now the proud owner of a trouble-free install of Adobe Creative Suite 4. Damn installation took over an hour! I'm too tired to "play" with it tonight, but it should really be a giant help in my web development projects. W00T!

91 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:17:43pm

re: #86 conservativeChick

Then why would women vote for Barrack then? I like a mans-man. The kind of man that hunts, fish, provides for his family, loyal, trust-worthy, a gentleman and doesn't cry or is more emotional or over emotional then me. I don't want a sissy, over emotional metrosexual.

Some women identify with Obama's effeminate ways, others like his handouts. Women tend to favor social benefits, even if they are stupid. However, for some (and maybe enough) women, that appeal can be undercut by pointing out the dangers Obama poses.

92 Penguinchic  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:18:51pm

re: #78 I Need A Bigger Gun

What is shocking me is that suddenly terms that I learned in college in intro to poli sci classes are now being described as code words. I'm not talking about the terms that we are seeing in the news. I heard someone say that a term I would use to support the constitution is now a code word. You know now that I think about it, what better way to destroy our country than to start describing every word connected to our political system as code words.

93 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:19:16pm

re: #90 Cartman

FWIW, I am now the proud owner of a trouble-free install of Adobe Creative Suite 4. Damn installation took over an hour! I'm too tired to "play" with it tonight, but it should really be a giant help in my web development projects. W00T!

I hate you......
I upgraded to a Intel Mac, and all my Adobe stuff no longer worky.
GRRRRRRRR!

Can you say GIMP instead of Photoshop?

94 x-wing  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:19:35pm

re: #75 conservativeChick

When did women become stupid?


I'd guess when other women told them that thing in their belly was just something that they could live without. You know, like a gall bladder or something.

95 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:20:32pm

I stole this post from another site. It expresses my thoughts quite well.

For one who raises sooooo much money and has soooo many supporters and sooooo many delegates and alllll the media and soooooo much support from the machine including the coveted Colin Powell why isn’t he further ahead in the polls then the not so conservative McCain and the not very smart wrong pick Lady VP?
Hmmmmmmm! All the money in the world just can’t buy this presidency so easily can it?

In a year when a party that could not loose stands up a candidate against a man who could not win with enough of money to bribe God himself - here we sit on the verge of shutting him down- NOBAMA!

McCain is taking PA. Obama's ad blitz will backfire. Plus something is not right with Obama heading to Hawaii. Bill and Hill are being summoned to PA.
If there ever was a man for PA it is McCain.

96 Cartman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:21:00pm

re: #93 jcm


Can you say GIMP instead of Photoshop?

I've found GIMP to be a pretty good alternative to PS. Can't beat it, for freeware!

97 hermeneutics  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:21:30pm

re: #60 pink freud

You may like this from American Thinker, odinga ....interesting read on the battleground poll.

Thanks for your link. It's been forwarded on already.

This is a great article. Thanks.

98 pablito  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:21:31pm

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Some women identify with Obama's effeminate ways, others like his handouts. Women tend to favor social benefits, even if they are stupid. However, for some (and maybe enough) women, that appeal can be undercut by pointing out the dangers Obama poses.

Once you go socialist, you never go back.

99 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:22:22pm

re: #76 logboy

Well, they've been saying all along that Iraq is Vietnam. Now they're going to make sure it is by guaranteeing our failure. Sure am glad I gave my arm for the cause. At least I still have one arm... so I can bitch slap the Big 0 when he visits.

logboy,
Don't fall into their mind set or let them define the terms of the discussion because these people will tell any lie to attain power.

The war that you fought is part of something much bigger and much older than most people are willing to admit. These people need to deny the reality of that for their own profit. Never forget that.

And never forget that you are part of a proud tradition that has helped and inspired hundreds of millions of people in our country's short history to look for the light of liberty.

You have my thanks and my gratefulness and that of many others.

100 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:22:24pm

re: #82 itellu3times

His timing is excellent.

Even if the timing is lousy, it will likely take six months for it to go critical, and some other thing will be found to blame it on.

And there is or going to be a status of forces agreement.

/there's going to be U.S. bases (mostly AF) and at least 50K U.S. troops in Iraq for ten years to infinity

101 Killer Tomato  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:22:56pm

re: #98 pablito

Once you go socialist, you never go back.

Yeah, because you can't.
If these women had any idea of the future they were sentencing their children to, they'd run screaming in the opposite direction.

102 Cartman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:23:09pm

re: #95 odinga

Obama also may have serious problems in Ohio, which he pretty much HAS to capture to win.

103 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:23:24pm

re: #96 Cartman

I've found GIMP to be a pretty good alternative to PS. Can't beat it, for freeware!

My next biggie is either Lightroom (Adobe) or Aperture (Apple). I've got 1.5TB of image files, 6000 scanned slides that I need to catalog.

104 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:23:30pm

re: #72 realwest

No date on that Battleground poll?!?

It covers the range 10/14 to 10/16 and then from 10/19 to 10/20. The sample times are on the bottom axis. The Poll was released today. Link

105 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:23:55pm

re: #65 Teacake!

Ozark Mountain Daredevil - not to complicate things again, but how do you find out if you have more than one firewall? I have a few things and I don't know if they all have firewalls. Spybot and AVG and I have no idea how to shut off the Windows one or if I should.

Spybot is an anti-spyware program I use, it's good. I'd also recommend downloading windows defender, ad-aware, and spybot search and destroy, you can google all the names, but make sure you only download the free programs.

AVG is an anti-virus program, and also good. I've been using all of these FREE programs for years with zero problems.

The only thing is that since they're free, you'll have to run and update them yourself. But all you have to do is click on the update button before you run them to download their latest updates

Hope this helps you out, since I got tired of my family and friends, including you all here, paying for stuff that is available for free and works just as good as the stuff you pay for from Norton, Symantec, etc.

106 theblakester  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:24:50pm

Support The DrudgeReport; Visit Our Advertisers


YAHOO firing 1,500 workers; 3Q profit falls 64%...
GOOGLE's Dominance...

Maybe a little off topic, but can we make Yahoo the Fox News of the internet? Google's CEO is for OBAMA and is trying to shut down anti-Obama web sites. I say YAHOO for McCain, what say you?

107 Cartman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:25:23pm

re: #103 jcm

Man, that's a crapload of pics!

108 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:25:54pm

re: #93 jcm

I hate you......
I upgraded to a Intel Mac, and all my Adobe stuff no longer worky.
GRRRRRRRR!

Can you say GIMP instead of Photoshop?

What about parallels?

109 tackle  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:26:37pm

re: #89 gmsc

Hmm. I think Dennis Prager is right on when he says:
"Why won't those who favor redefining marriage accord the same respect to the millions of us who want gays to be allowed to love whom they want, live with whom they want, be given the rights they deserve along with the dignity they deserve, but who still want marriage to remain man-woman?"
I support such civil unions as it gives them important legal rights. Gay marriages also poses a serious threat to many religious who may be targeted, sued, or lose their tax-exempt status due to so-called "hate speech".

110 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:27:07pm

re: #92 Penguinchic

That's been a leftie strategy for a long time. Remember up means down, etc.? Just an extention of that. Devaluation of anything of value. Like our constitution.

111 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:27:57pm

re: #99 Irene NYC

logboy,
Don't fall into their mind set or let them define the terms of the discussion because these people will tell any lie to attain power.

The war that you fought is part of something much bigger and much older than most people are willing to admit. These people need to deny the reality of that for their own profit. Never forget that.

And never forget that you are part of a proud tradition that has helped and inspired hundreds of millions of people in our country's short history to look for the light of liberty.

You have my thanks and my gratefulness and that of many others.

I blogged this while I was in Iraq, three months before I lost my arm.


While sitting around tonight, we were talking a little bit about what it's going to be like when we get home. We're not going to have a clue what has been going on in the world. Trends, fads, music, movies, TV, radio, the presence of family and friends again, getting accustomed to not wearing body armor when leaving the house, and not driving armored vehicles with loaded weapons everywhere; it's going to be very confusing and frustrating. Getting back into the swing of things, I'm looking forward to college, but in a way I'm not. I'll be the crazy old war vet sitting in class, giving scowling looks to the 19 year old who complains about writing a report, or having to read 50 pages, or how much books cost. They've never met people who come to their front gate to beg for food and water on a daily basis. People who walk barefoot across the desert in 130 degree heat just to try and sell you some worthless Saddam money so they'll have money to buy food. They've never lived in a country that has known nothing but death, torture, and destruction from dictatorship. They've never met people whose neighbors were executed for speaking out against the government. They've never had their entire town or village buried in a mass grave. These are the hardships the people of Iraq have had to face over generations. Sure, I may whine about how bad the food is, how little sleep I get, or how bad the weather is here, but it's nothing compared to these people. They live it every day. At the end of my deployment, I go home. They stay here, trying to make something out of nothing. There have been speed bumps along the away, and will be many more ahead. Things are getting better here. I don't give a rat’s ass less about what you read on CNN, FOX, Newsweek, or any other large media outlet. They only see what they want to see. They only dish out the news they want people to here, even if sometimes it’s not even news. Life is better for the Iraqis because of us.

I believe in the cause here. I believe we are creating a better world by creating a stable region in the Middle East. I believe we are correct for finishing "unfinished business" left over from the first Gulf War. Most of all, I believe in giving these people freedom. Even if the term or even the definition is still vague or unknown to some people here in Iraq, its meaning is becoming well known. Out of tragedy in our own country comes a blessing to another. I do not regret coming here. I do not regret joining the military. If I should have to give the ultimate sacrifice while I am here, I know it is not in vain.

112 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:28:20pm

re: #107 Cartman

Man, that's a crapload of pics!

50 years of my dad's slides and family images, travels and living in Iran. The older slides were fading. Nikon Digital ICE is remarkable in how it recovered faded and scratched slides.

113 Metal Man  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:28:22pm

re: #86 conservativeChick

Then why would women vote for Barrack then? I like a mans-man. The kind of man that hunts, fish, provides for his family, loyal, trust-worthy, a gentleman and doesn't cry or is more emotional or over emotional then me. I don't want a sissy, over emotional metrosexual.

It is the same reason teenage girls like boy bands. They are not as threatening as real men. And that's OK when you still live at home with dad but not as appealing when it's time to pick a husband. These women are stuck as teenagers much like the men they hang around with that still think Dad should support them monetarily. Socialism taken is taken too far in many families and screws up kids keeping them children forever.

114 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:29:04pm

re: #106 theblakester

Support The DrudgeReport; Visit Our Advertisers


YAHOO firing 1,500 workers; 3Q profit falls 64%...
GOOGLE's Dominance...

Maybe a little off topic, but can we make Yahoo the Fox News of the internet? Google's CEO is for OBAMA and is trying to shut down anti-Obama web sites. I say YAHOO for McCain, what say you?


Do you have any proof on the shutting down of Anti-socialist Anti-Obama sites?

115 realwest  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:31:12pm

re: #107 Cartman Hey my friend if you're still awake please check your e-mail!

116 Cartman  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:35:01pm

re: #115 realwest

Checked and replied to, dude!

117 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:35:19pm

re: #111 logboy


That was a wonderful post, logboy. And true.

BTW, how'd you do in your competition?
;)

118 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:36:15pm

Obama Better Dancer Than McCain?!

Well that does it! I'm switching over to the Obama camp!

119 sngnsgt  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:36:37pm

Interesting read:

Obama WTF (What's The Facts?)

120 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:37:20pm

re: #114 logboy

Well, google has certainly pulled a lot of anti-Obama pieces from YouTube while letting all the jihadists known to man continue posting.

SRSLY.

121 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:38:00pm

re: #118 TheMatrix31

Obama Better Dancer Than McCain?!

Well that does it! I'm switching over to the Obama camp!

Don't you know that 'Better Dancer' is a code word for 'black?
/

122 theblakester  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:38:18pm

Logboy'
The LFG Linkviewer at the top of the LGF front page has mentioned it several times in their articles. Even if it was not true, wouldn't it be great if we had our thoughts and opinions that were properly represented on the web? If Google is for the one, and Yahoo was for the other , that would be something I'd support. What say you? Go YAHOO!

123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:38:32pm

re: #65 Teacake!

If you're running more than one firewall, you'll find out because they will conflict. But generally most computers only run the windows firewall.
The following I'm about to tell you is from my own experience only. But it's the truth, as far as I'm concerned!
Norton, Symantec, etc, and any anti-spyware, anti-virus or firewall programs you have to pay for are a waste of money. Delete them.
There are great programs available for free that work as good or better than those you have to pay for, and like I said, I've been using them for years and never had a problem.
See my #105 above.

124 Vendicus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:38:45pm

#111 Very nice post logboy!

125 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:39:07pm

Some Code words:

Choice = Abortion
Diversity = Anybody but whitey
Intolerance = When a conservative objects to any Lefty talking point
Global Warming = Stop the Capitalist Pig's productivity
Insurgent = Terrorist
Profiling = Asking a Socialist for an ID
Undocumented Worker = Illegal Alien Gang Member
Climate Change = see Global Warming; in case it gets colder.
Investment = Higher Taxes
Community Organizer = Street Thugh
Bilingual = Speak Spanish Only
Youths = Muslim Terrorists

126 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:39:10pm

re: #111 logboy

Getting back into the swing of things, I'm looking forward to college, but in a way I'm not. I'll be the crazy old war vet sitting in class, giving scowling looks to the 19 year old who complains about writing a report, or having to read 50 pages, or how much books cost.

Want to be a lawyer after you get your degree?

/just ask Realwest and there's plenty of other support, even with your undergraduate degree, plenty of us have been there, but not where you've been

127 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:39:38pm

re: #121 Fenway_Nation

Don't you know that 'Better Dancer' is a code word for 'black socialist?
/


All fixed.
;)

128 Metal Man  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:39:42pm

re: #111 logboy

We all need to be reminded how lucky we are to live in this the greatest of nations. Thankfully for us that don't go out to see the underbelly of the world there are those braver and selfless enough to do so and report back to us on how lucky we really are.

129 quickredfox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:39:54pm

On the commute to work this morning, what did I spy, but two new McCain signs, giving my stretch of streets 6 McCain to one O (and the O is most often hidden behind a parked car or two). I did have the misfortune of seeing a car with an O bumper sticker, but close behind was a van with an American flag bumper sticker to help offset it. I know that the Bay Area will go for the O, but it's nice that I don't have to be subjected to it in my little corner of town.

131 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:42:00pm

re: #129 quickredfox

On the commute to work this morning, what did I spy, but two new McCain signs, giving my stretch of streets 6 McCain to one O (and the O is most often hidden behind a parked car or two). I did have the misfortune of seeing a car with an O bumper sticker, but close behind was a van with an American flag bumper sticker to help offset it. I know that the Bay Area will go for the O, but it's nice that I don't have to be subjected to it in my little corner of town.

My commute this afternoon. Car with an ACORN bumper sticker. I was so tempted to PIT them.

132 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #130 rawmuse


Fortunately Rove remembered the safeword.

133 neocon hippie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:42:49pm

re: #129 quickredfox

May I ask where you are? I'm glad to hear that there's a least one little McCain pocket in the Bay Area.

Here in Berkeley I have seen not a single McCain sign or sticker, yet the Obama signs are actually pretty few and far-between. There's at least as many No on Prop 8 signs.

135 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:44:06pm

re: #123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If you're running more than one firewall, you'll find out because they will conflict. But generally most computers only run the windows firewall.
The following I'm about to tell you is from my own experience only. But it's the truth, as far as I'm concerned!
Norton, Symantec, etc, and any anti-spyware, anti-virus or firewall programs you have to pay for are a waste of money. Delete them.
There are great programs available for free that work as good or better than those you have to pay for, and like I said, I've been using them for years and never had a problem.
See my #105 above.

That's all fine and dandy. Just make sure that free program is not a spyware or trojan downloader. Read up on the application (from different sources) before you install it. I also use freeware applications but research the before I use them.

136 Irene NYC  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:44:45pm

re: #131 jcm

My commute this afternoon. Car with an ACORN bumper sticker. I was so tempted to PIT them.


Basically, you just touch somebody's side bumper with sufficient force. Had it happen to me on the highway once, hit and run. Not fun. Next thing I knew I was facing oncoming traffic going 70+mph. Scary.

137 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:44:58pm
138 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:45:05pm
Did Google use its network of online services to silence critics of Barack Obama? That was the question buzzing on a corner of the blogosphere over the last few days, after several anti-Obama bloggers were unable to update their sites, which are hosted on Google’s Blogger service.

The bloggers in question, most of them supporters of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, and all of them opposed to Senator Obama, received a notice from Google last week saying that their sites had been identified as potential “spam” blogs. “You will not be able to publish posts to your blog until we review your site and confirm that it is not a spam blog,” the Google e-mail read.

Its from this summer, but still relevant. Full story.

139 theblakester  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:45:26pm

133 neocon hippie 10/21/08 10:42:49 pm reply quote 0

re: #129 quickredfox

May I ask where you are? I'm glad to hear that there's a least one little McCain pocket in the Bay Area.

Here in Berkeley I have seen not a single McCain sign or sticker, yet the Obama signs are actually pretty few and far-between. There's at least as many No on Prop 8 signs.

You my friend are not alone! We here in Washington, feel your pain!

140 Vendicus  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:45:34pm

I find it odd how it seems that there is a lack of political signs on both sides in general this election. Of course in my area I am happy to see that McCain signs outnumber Obama by a large margin, and those Obama signs are usually the street corner giant sized ones.

141 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:45:47pm

re: #136 Irene NYC

Basically, you just touch somebody's side bumper with sufficient force. Had it happen to me on the highway once, hit and run. Not fun. Next thing I knew I was facing oncoming traffic going 70+mph. Scary.

I got to do it and have it done to me in training....... There it was pure fun.

142 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:46:06pm

re: #111 logboy

And you're using speech recognition software, right, or do you have a typist?

/that's awesome prose

143 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:47:07pm

re: #137 jcm

Pardon my ignorance... who's Miley Cyrus?

She's Billy Ray Cyrus' daughter, known among today's young kids as being the star of the Disney Channel show "Hannah Montana".

144 JHW  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:47:50pm

re: #138 logboy

May I ask what part of the country you're in? I checked your profile, I'm a logger too. that's why I'm asking. Thanks for your service and welcome home.

145 odinga  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:49:55pm

This has been a strange election cycle with all kinds of realignment of the celestial spheres. Now Dan Rather agrees that BIDEN is getting a pass and that if Palin had said what Biden said It would be above the fold on all major newspapers.

Link, scroll down until you see title: "If Palin Made the Gaffe Biden Did It Would Be Front Page News"

146 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:51:04pm

realwest if you are still here, start the disk "error-checking" before you go to sleep. It can take several hours to complete a full check.

147 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:51:12pm

re: #143 gmsc

She's Billy Ray Cyrus' daughter, known among today's young kids as being the star of the Disney Channel show "Hannah Montana".

Ahhh, Billy Ray I recognize I see the Hannah Montana stuff all over Walmart.

148 stevieray  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:51:55pm

re: #143 gmsc

She's Billy Ray Cyrus' daughter, known among today's young kids as being the star of the Disney Channel show "Hannah Montana".

The Valerie Bertinelli of today's teenage boys.

149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:51:59pm

re: #135 Bordm

That's all fine and dandy. Just make sure that free program is not a spyware or trojan downloader. Read up on the application (from different sources) before you install it. I also use freeware applications but research the before I use them.

I agree 100%. That's why I recommended the ones I did in my #105. I've been using ALL of them for at least 3 years, and most of them longer.

Generally, I found the downloads at CNET.com's website, [Link: www.download.com,...] and I've been downloading freeware, shareware, and buyware from there for about 10 years and never had a problem.

150 wiffersnapper  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:52:32pm

re: #18 odinga

where's ron paul?

151 quickredfox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:53:17pm

re: #133 neocon hippie

May I ask where you are? I'm glad to hear that there's a least one little McCain pocket in the Bay Area.

Here in Berkeley I have seen not a single McCain sign or sticker, yet the Obama signs are actually pretty few and far-between. There's at least as many No on Prop 8 signs.

SFO's bedroom community, scenic Pacifica. We are known a bit for contrariness at times.

152 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:54:03pm

re: #130 rawmuse

A Code Pinker tries to handcuff Karl Rove in San Francisco.

I'm surprised they had the nerve to call Rove a traitor. They, after all, are the traitors. Projection, I guess.

153 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:55:21pm

re: #126 Killian Bundy

Want to be a lawyer after you get your degree?

/just ask Realwest and there's plenty of other support, even with your undergraduate degree, plenty of us have been there, but not where you've been

No. I just had an advisor meeting today and realized how far away I am actually graduating. Even though I already have 90 credits, they don't accomplish jack toward my major of technology education. I might as well be a freshman! I'd just learned today I have to take a freshman writing class, which is funny because some of my writing has been published in a couple different books on the war, and I'm in the middle of writing my own book.

I was going to double major in construction and technology education, but with the setbacks I already have with my transfer credits, and the fact I have a nasty case of TBI that affects my memory and concentration, I'm going to be here long enough as it is. I do my best to hold my own intellectually, but I'm not the same person I was when I left for Iraq. I have a hard time remembering things and I've lost some of my vocabulary. It's okay though, it could always be worse. I could've come home dead.

154 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:05pm

re: #142 Killian Bundy

And you're using speech recognition software, right, or do you have a typist?

/that's awesome prose

And before your IED experience.

Now, do you hunt and peck with what's left of your left hand?

/I'm just curious, is the Government giving you the proper prosthetics and rehabilitation you need?

155 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:19pm

re: #150 wiffersnapper

where's ron paul?

Ralphie was in Seattle today. Saw a bunch of cars with Nader stickers today, and wondered why.

156 quickredfox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:30pm

re: #140 Vendicus

I find it odd how it seems that there is a lack of political signs on both sides in general this election. Of course in my area I am happy to see that McCain signs outnumber Obama by a large margin, and those Obama signs are usually the street corner giant sized ones.

There are many signs up for candidates here, but overwhelmingly for local races.

157 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:32pm

re: #152 Dark_Falcon

I'm surprised they had the nerve to call Rove a traitor. They, after all, are the traitors. Projection, I guess.

I would have punched anyone's lights out if they tried to do that to me.

158 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:36pm

re: #153 logboy

No. I just had an advisor meeting today and realized how far away I am actually graduating. Even though I already have 90 credits, they don't accomplish jack toward my major of technology education. I might as well be a freshman! I'd just learned today I have to take a freshman writing class, which is funny because some of my writing has been published in a couple different books on the war, and I'm in the middle of writing my own book.

I was going to double major in construction and technology education, but with the setbacks I already have with my transfer credits, and the fact I have a nasty case of TBI that affects my memory and concentration, I'm going to be here long enough as it is. I do my best to hold my own intellectually, but I'm not the same person I was when I left for Iraq. I have a hard time remembering things and I've lost some of my vocabulary. It's okay though, it could always be worse. I could've come home dead.

I would try to get the book piece plus the published stuff recognized as credit already.

159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:54pm

Interesting...

In case you missed this week's issue of the Army/Navy/Air Force Times here are the results of the Army Times' poll of Military personnel re the election (in percent):


McCain Obama

Overall 68 23

Army 68 23

Navy 69 24

Air Force 67 24

Marines 75 18

Retirees 72 20

White Non-Hispanic 76 17

Hispanic 63 27

Black/African-American 12 79 (NOT A TYPO)

Enlisted 67 24

Officers 70 22

160 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:56:58pm

re: #130 rawmuse

A Code Pinker tries to handcuff Karl Rove in San Francisco.

None of the women were charged. Okey dokey. I'm surprised they didn't charge Rove for something.

161 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:58:00pm

re: #159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Interesting...

In case you missed this week's issue of the Army/Navy/Air Force Times here are the results of the Army Times' poll of Military personnel re the election (in percent):


McCain Obama

Overall 68 23

Army 68 23

Navy 69 24

Air Force 67 24

Marines 75 18

Retirees 72 20

White Non-Hispanic 76 17

Hispanic 63 27

Black/African-American 12 79 (NOT A TYPO)

Enlisted 67 24

Officers 70 22

Yet another reason to love the Marines.

162 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:58:05pm

re: #149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I agree 100%. That's why I recommended the ones I did in my #105. I've been using ALL of them for at least 3 years, and most of them longer.

Generally, I found the downloads at CNET.com's website, [Link: www.download.com,...] and I've been downloading freeware, shareware, and buyware from there for about 10 years and never had a problem.

CNET is a secure spot to get tools from. I was just reminding folks to be careful. Can't tell you how many computers I've had to clean up after someone installed this "great" "free" anti-spyware app they found while surfing.

/ca-ching

163 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:04pm

re: #162 Bordm

CNET is a secure spot to get tools from. I was just reminding folks to be careful. Can't tell you how many computers I've had to clean up after someone installed this "great" "free" anti-spyware app they found while surfing.

/ca-ching

I know, Bordm, good advice!

164 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:09pm

re: #160 capitalist piglet

None of the women were charged. Okey dokey. I'm surprised they didn't charge Rove for something.

That's because in San Francisco, handcuffs are bedroom accessories.

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 10:59:49pm

re: #157 TheMatrix31

I would have punched anyone's lights out if they tried to do that to me.

If my attack was a man, me too. A woman I would simply restrain. Punching her out would make me look like an ogre, and might result in my handcuffed anyway, only by the police. For anyone, who thinks what I just said is sexism, it isn't. The rules for dealing with men and women are different, fact of life.

166 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:00:46pm

From drhurd.com:

Profiles in Pacifism

Colin Powell's endorsement of Obama for President can be explained by only one of two factors. Either he's making a decision based on race; or he never believed what he claimed to believe while in high government positions over the past 20 years. Consider the context. Powell was Ronald Reagan's National Security Advisor; Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under the first President Bush; and George W. Bush's first Secretary of State. Although Powell was always associated more with the moderate than the conservative wing of the Republican Party, he chose to work for Republican Presidents who certainly believed in the use of American military force. He was no fan of President Clinton -- a rabid conservative when contrasted to Barack Obama -- and he stepped down from his post soon after Clinton took office. There's no reason to think that Obama believes in the use of any military force -- outside the context of "humanitarian" missions to aid African dictators and the like -- and, as we know, Obama even favors overt pacifism towards the West's most dangerous enemies, such as Iran. What on earth would lead Colin Powell to openly endorse him for President? One can only assume that Colin Powell never believed in the relatively hawkish policies he once pursued, particularly against Saddam Hussein in Iraq; or that he is opting to support Obama for reasons of race rather than national security principle. It's another sign that the world has gone mad, and that once respectable Americans are on the political and intellectual equivalent of a drunken rampage. Check back in a year, and witness the results of the hangover, once it has fully set in.

167 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:27pm

re: #163 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I know, Bordm, good advice!

Here's an excellent file cleaner if you haven't seen it. ATF-Cleaner

168 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:01:33pm

re: #164 rawmuse

That's because in San Francisco, handcuffs are bedroom accessories.

Yeah, I've seen zombietime. I'm quite familiar with SF's collection of accessories. Too damned familiar.

169 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:02:39pm

I've actually met the stooge Diuguid referenced in the post below. The man is dimmer than a 40 watt bulb during a brownout. [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

170 realwest  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:02:47pm

re: #111 logboy
Hey there - iirc, we've e-chatted some. If you need or want an ear to listen to you and give advice or not, espeically for college and law school, e-mail me; I'm an 11-Bravo Vietnam Class of '70.
But not tonight, please, I gotta get some sleep! LOL!
Seriously though my offer of help is there for you and my nic is in blue.

171 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:02:48pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

If my attack was a man, me too. A woman I would simply restrain.

Best thing would be to go for a submission with a crucifix hold.

172 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:03:10pm

Okay, I'm officially outta here. Have a great night y'all! Play nice, though! And rawmuse, too much info, dude! : )))

173 Colonel Panik  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:03:42pm

re: #66 splendid confusion

#58 Teacake and Irene
We yanked our kids from a school for a variety of reasons, but one of the top ten was that the principal tivoed Oprah everyday and just raved about her. The Oprahfication of middle class women may have led to some of this "hope and change" baloney.

Palination is the cure for Oprahfication.

174 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:27pm

re: #153 logboy

I'd just learned today I have to take a freshman writing class, which is funny because some of my writing has been published in a couple different books on the war, and I'm in the middle of writing my own book.

There's money to be made there and maybe a movie.

/consult a recommended literary attorney you trust for top dollar

175 realwest  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:32pm

Well good night all y'all I'm going to sleep RIGHT NOW!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

176 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:38pm

re: #173 Colonel Panik

Palination is the cure for Oprahfication.

But Obamacide is fatal.

177 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:04:54pm

re: #166 gmsc

I don't think policy means much to Powell this time around if his endorsement is about race (I'm not sure it is, BTW). Like Charles Barkley and many other African-Americans, he sees the election of a black man as a validation. I'm white, so I can't really speak to the phenomenon. But it does seem to exist.

178 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:05:20pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

If my attack was a man, me too. A woman I would simply restrain. Punching her out would make me look like an ogre, and might result in my handcuffed anyway, only by the police. For anyone, who thinks what I just said is sexism, it isn't. The rules for dealing with men and women are different, fact of life.

SF Women are pretty much like men anyway.

179 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:05:25pm

re: #142 Killian Bundy

And you're using speech recognition software, right, or do you have a typist?

/that's awesome prose


When I wrote that I was still in Iraq and had two hands and all 10 fingers (and no TBI). Usually I just do the three fingered hunt and peck now. I have recently started to use my voice recognition software again because I am trying to bang out my book, Lumberjack in a Desert. Unfortunately, I cannot use the software to type in websites like LGF. For some reason it won't allow me to. I have to type it in their software and paste it over.

180 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:08:41pm

re: #171 Edgar

Best thing would be to go for a submission with a crucifix hold.

No, nothing that looks like it could hurt her. Unless she's got a deadly weapon, a man cannot her the woman or appear like he is doing so. The rules for Mandy Manners or Sarah Palin, on the other hand would quite different. They could simply level the leftie loon. If you or I did so, the bad PR would be horrendous.

181 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:09:12pm

re: #179 logboy

Lumber Jack!? What part of the country do you hail from?

182 Lemon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:09:56pm

Good evening, everybody.

Quick question: How many Lizards have put up a McCain/Palin yard sign? Of this group, how many have had a sign damaged or stolen?

We're up to our third one now; we're taking it inside at night to avoid the need to get a fourth, and this is in a strongly conservative area.

That liberal tolerance is really remarkable.

183 Cognito  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:10:40pm

Huh. The government is investigating more than a million Ford vehicles because they're equipped with tires that have faulty valves.

Three guesses where those valves were made. And it's not America.

184 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:06pm

re: #182 Lemon

I have one, not in the yard, but in a window, facing the street.

I have had 2 bumper stickers removed from my car.

185 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:20pm

re: #178 TheMatrix31

SF Women are pretty much like men anyway.

Some are, but that's not the way the press would spin it. Unless a conflict escalates to lethal weapons, a smart person will always have the spin in mind. If lethality gets into the mix, all bets are off: win the fight and then deal with the blowback. And there will be blowback.

186 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:21pm

re: #182 Lemon

Good evening, everybody.

Quick question: How many Lizards have put up a McCain/Palin yard sign? Of this group, how many have had a sign damaged or stolen?

We're up to our third one now; we're taking it inside at night to avoid the need to get a fourth, and this is in a strongly conservative area.

That liberal tolerance is really remarkable.

Next time, before you put it out, spread Vaseline all over it, then put it out and leave it out all night.

187 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:11:44pm

re: #78 I Need A Bigger Gun

Don't know why you'd want to duck- I thought that was a pretty good insight. "Historic" is code for racist. I agree.

188 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:00pm

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

No, nothing that looks like it could hurt her. Unless she's got a deadly weapon, a man cannot hurt a woman or appear like he is doing so. The rules for Mandy Manners or Sarah Palin, on the other hand would quite different. They could simply level the leftie loon. If you or I did so, the bad PR would be horrendous.

Fixed. PIMF, again.

189 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:02pm

re: #183 Cognito

Huh. The government is investigating more than a million Ford vehicles because they're equipped with tires that have faulty valves.

Three guesses where those valves were made. And it's not America.

Canada?
////////

190 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:12:45pm

re: #179 logboy

Unfortunately, I cannot use the software to type in websites like LGF. For some reason it won't allow me to. I have to type it in their software and paste it over.

Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10

/leugue leader

191 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:13:07pm

re: #171 Edgar

WTF?

192 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:13:13pm

In case you're wondering why PUMAs have left the DNC for McCain/Palin in droves for this election:

Donna Brazile's charm

193 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:13:22pm

re: #181 jcm

I'm in northwest Wisconsin. I'm not a typical logger per se, but I've been competing in lumberjack sports for over 20 years (You've probably seen me log roll on TV). I do have my own sawmill and dry kiln, and a woodworking obsession that drives my wife crazy. I definitely have a thing for exotic hardwoods.

194 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:13:26pm

re: #183 Cognito

Huh. The government is investigating more than a million Ford vehicles because they're equipped with tires that have faulty valves.

Three guesses where those valves were made. And it's not America.

China.

195 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:14:30pm

/league leader

league, SCIMF

196 Dekar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:14:52pm

Best movie of all time

197 Cognito  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:15:07pm

re: #191 Sharmuta

WTF?

He's talking about martial arts holds.

198 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:15:11pm

re: #183 Cognito

Huh. The government is investigating more than a million Ford vehicles because they're equipped with tires that have faulty valves.

Three guesses where those valves were made. And it's not America.

San Francisco?
Berkley?

/well, they're no longer part of America.

199 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:15:34pm

re: #190 Killian Bundy

Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10

/leugue leader

I'm still on Dragon speak nine. The government hasn't upgraded me yet. The professional version is much better than the at-home version they gave me at Walter Reed. That thing was garbage.

200 jcm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:15:40pm

re: #193 logboy

I'm in northwest Wisconsin. I'm not a typical logger per se, but I've been competing in lumberjack sports for over 20 years (You've probably seen me log roll on TV). I do have my own sawmill and dry kiln, and a woodworking obsession that drives my wife crazy. I definitely have a thing for exotic hardwoods.

Northwet here, home of lots of loggers is why I asked. Love lumberjack competitions. My uncle has a similar woodworking obsession.

201 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:15:45pm

"The Dude abides"

202 Cognito  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:16:39pm

re: #194 Dark_Falcon

China.

Dingy ding.

I was appalled and surprised, although I have no idea why, to discover that American car makers are using Chinese parts. How naive, I guess.

203 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:10pm

re: #197 Cognito

He's talking about martial arts holds.

Heh. It's all right Cognito. She understands but wants to pick a fight somehow.

/waits for the inevitable accusation of "sexism"

204 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:18:23pm

Hi, rawmuse.

205 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:19:27pm

re: #193 logboy

I'm in northwest Wisconsin. I'm not a typical logger per se, but I've been competing in lumberjack sports for over 20 years (You've probably seen me log roll on TV). I do have my own sawmill and dry kiln, and a woodworking obsession that drives my wife crazy. I definitely have a thing for exotic hardwoods.

Lots of women would love to be driven crazy by exotic hardwoods.

/Or so I've heard

206 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:19:40pm

re: #200 jcm

Pacific Northwest? Where exactly?

207 Cognito  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:04pm

Has anyone here seen Body of Lies?

208 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:20:13pm

re: #178 TheMatrix31

SF Women are pretty much like men anyway.

some of them are more manly than the average SF "man"......

then there was the time i answered teh door at a party in SF and the cops were on the other side........

i closed to door in their faces and they didn't even blink.

/try that with any *real* cop and see what happens. %-)

209 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:11pm

Repost from a couple weeks ago:

Every single f---ing "dude"

210 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:12pm

re: #208 redc1c4

some of them are more manly than the average SF "man"......

then there was the time i answered teh door at a party in SF and the cops were on the other side........

i closed to door in their faces and they didn't even blink.

/try that with any *real* cop and see what happens. %-)

I wouldn't touch a party in SF.

211 rightside  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:16pm

re: #207 Cognito

Has anyone here seen Body of Lies?

Isn't that a code word for "black"?

212 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:27pm

re: #207 Cognito

Has anyone here seen Body of Lies?

every time you post...... why?

213 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:21:40pm

re: #201 rawmuse

"The Dude abides"

/All The Young Dudes, a different path

214 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:12pm

re: #207 Cognito

Has anyone here seen Body of Lies?

Without retching?

/not me, either/or

215 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:22:56pm

re: #205 Bordm

Lots of women would love to be driven crazy by exotic hardwoods.

/Or so I've heard

Zebrawood is my favorite visually, but it chips out easily and man is it expensive.

216 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:23:06pm
Palination is the cure for Oprahfication.

Compared to Sarah, all too many women in the media Pal(e)-in comparison.

And yes, that includes socialist ones, like Oprah.

217 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:25:03pm

re: #210 TheMatrix31

I wouldn't touch a party in SF.

it was the late 70's..... in a good part of town. the two unis that were at the door were both 5' mumble, scrawny and unimpressive. i was smashed and simply said "i'll get the owner"...... and closed the door in their faces.

218 Aussie Stinger  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:25:41pm

THE COMPLETE OBAMA GAFFE TAPE

Remember all the emails mocking Bush over the years.....

Well, Obama makes President Bush look Shakespearean.

- Obama sans teleprompter:


-Obama calls for the Security Council to denounce Russia.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]
Russia holds a veto at the Security Council.


-Obama has travelled the entire USA.
“I’ve now been in 57 states”


And still counting !


-Did you know that …..
“Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s”


-Hey, I'm a strong friend of Israel too!


- The best one!


Obama sees dead people!


- Obama uses Lancet method of counting, noting "10,000 people dead" during Kansas tornado in 2007.


Amazingly, 9,988 resurrections follow. (the death toll was actually 12. Not 10,000)


-Uhhhhhhhhh..... yeah.


"Mr. Unscripted"


-Obama says:
“I had an uncle, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz.”


1.) The Soviets liberated Auscwitz.
2.) Uncle? But Obama’s mother is an only child.
(Obama should have said Buchenwald.) (And it was his great-uncle)


-Obama forgets his own religion:


Remembers.


-Obama says Al Qaeda, ... no, ... wait ..... Al-Qaeda leadership, not in Iraq


This guy never existed:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]


-Obama gives Joe Biden a promotion.


Quickly demotes him.


-Obama remembers "the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbour".


It must have been a big one!


-Blindingly obvious:
"Had those political factors not occurred, I think that my assessment would have been correct."
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]
Yes. And had my lottery numbers not been wrong, I would have won the big one.


-Obama says no to military army. Yes to civilian army.
“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force …. That’s just as powerful, just as strong.”


Civil libertarians flee police state.


-Obama, the ambitious prophet, forecasts ahead:
"the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with .... who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.”
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
US Presidents cannot serve more than 8 years.


-Obama tells voters that McCain's policy reflects a 4th Bush term:


That's 3rd, Barry


-Give that guy a map .....


- .... and compass ....
[Link: media.nationalreview.com...]

- ... with directions ....


- Obama wants to speak to the "President of Canada".


I want to speak to the Prime Minister of America.


-Obama on Afghan languages…. Struggling, .... struggling .....


TIP: It's Pashto or Farsi for Afghanistan. Arabic is for Iraq.

219 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:26:22pm
Lots of women would love to be driven crazy by exotic hardwoods.
/Or so I've heard

Zebrawood is my favorite visually, but it chips out easily and man is it expensive.

I am to understand that once you go ebony, you never go back.

220 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:26:35pm

re: #207 Cognito

Haven't seen it, but even the 'never-met-an-anti-military/CIA-Iraq-war-movie-I-d idn't-like' critic for the local rag gave it a lukewarm review, calling something along the lines of 'a tepid op-ed in desert camo with the occasional chase or gunplay'....

221 quickredfox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:03pm

re: #193 logboy

I'm in northwest Wisconsin. I'm not a typical logger per se, but I've been competing in lumberjack sports for over 20 years (You've probably seen me log roll on TV).

"A log driver's waltz pleases girls completely." It's Canadian, but I used to see it on a kid's show when my kids were little and always enjoyed it.

222 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:21pm

Local news station's online poll (including results):

"With the election just two weeks away, do you think the polls are correct in anticipating a Barack Obama win over John McCain?"

Yes: 33%
No: 55%
I don't pay attention to polls: 12% (Irony?)

Polls about polls. I look forward to the polling results on this poll about polls.
/

223 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:27:44pm

re: #204 Sharmuta

Hi Sharmuta! I had such an outstanding day today. The weather was superb. I went down to the waterfront, a pal of mine has kayaks, we went all the way up past Angel Island. Not much wind. Didn't get run over by a freighter.

It beats getting handcuffed by a Code Pinker.

224 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:28:16pm

re: #218 Aussie Stinger

hearted!

225 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:28:23pm

re: #218 Aussie Stinger

No offense, but I'd rather hear "Dude" 217 times than listen to "ah, ah, uh, uh...."

226 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:28:37pm

re: #222 Slumbering Behemoth

Hi, Sleepy B!

That is ironic.

227 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:28:52pm
Yes: 33%
No: 55%
I don't pay attention to polls: 12% (Irony?)

Polls about polls. I look forward to the polling results on this poll about polls.

It's polls all the way down.

228 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:29:10pm

re: #218 Aussie Stinger

THE COMPLETE OBAMA GAFFE TAPE

Maybe we should elect a president based upon his/her ability to make and carry out the right decisions, instead of public speaking skills.

229 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:29:34pm

re: #219 RedWhiteAndJew

I am to understand that once you go ebony, you never go back.

Ebony lumber is a lot like cocaine: you'll go broke long before you become addicted to it.

230 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:45pm

re: #182 Lemon

Good evening, everybody.

Quick question: How many Lizards have put up a McCain/Palin yard sign? Of this group, how many have had a sign damaged or stolen?

We're up to our third one now; we're taking it inside at night to avoid the need to get a fourth, and this is in a strongly conservative area.

That liberal tolerance is really remarkable.

Household 6 won't let me put one up, even though i offered to set up outside behind the berm to cover it, 11B style.......

something about scaring the neighbors.
(like what they do isn't scary. %-P

231 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:30:48pm

re: #223 rawmuse

A much nicer day than mine- been a bit under the weather, but I'm improving now.

I wonder though... is "under the weather" racist considering 0bama's relationships to Weathermen?

232 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:31:50pm

re: #219 RedWhiteAndJew

I am to understand that once you go ebony, you never go black.

fixed that for ya!

233 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:32:20pm

re: #227 RedWhiteAndJew

It's polls all the way down.

Unless The Fascist Tool Barack Obama wins.

Then it'll be Czechs all the way down.

(To the bottom of your Czech-book.)

234 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:32:32pm

re: #231 Sharmuta

No, however I have gotten in to trouble with some of my Japanese American friends if I mention a "nip in the air". I don't do that any more.

235 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:08pm
Quick question: How many Lizards have put up a McCain/Palin yard sign? Of this group, how many have had a sign damaged or stolen?

Haven't had mine stolen, but a neighbor down the street, situated on a prominent corner, had one on display for weeks, and it just up and disappeared. Another one is now in the original's place, after a few day gap.

236 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:17pm

re: #231 Sharmuta

A much nicer day than mine- been a bit under the weather, but I'm improving now.

I wonder though... is "under the weather" racist considering 0bama's relationships to Weathermen?

that probably qualifies as appropriately submissive.....

(marginally, anyway. %-)

237 quickredfox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:22pm

re: #223 rawmuse

I went down to the waterfront, a pal of mine has kayaks, we went all the way up past Angel Island.

Did it look toasted? I haven't been up that way since the fire.

238 Tamron  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:36pm

re: #103 jcm

My next biggie is either Lightroom (Adobe) or Aperture (Apple). I've got 1.5TB of image files, 6000 scanned slides that I need to catalog.


Say, take a look at FileAmigo. I've been using it to keep track of photos for a couple of years now, and I quite like it. Great database program. They offer a freeware version, or you pay for a LAN version. Here's a sample review from one of their satisfied customers:

"Excellent software! I needed a database to keep track of graphics files for Billboard customers. I needed links to the actual file plus I wanted to be able to send emails quickly from the database. I began to try to create a db in Access. What a pain! FileAmigo did in a few minutes, what I couldn't do in many, many hours trying to learn Microsoft Access."


.

239 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:33:50pm

re: #234 rawmuse

No, however I have gotten in to trouble with some of my Japanese American friends if I mention a "nip in the air". I don't do that any more.

Just say it's a "little Pearl Harbour" instead. It's really unPC and requires explanation.

240 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:16pm

Ebony lumber is typically over $100 a bdft. That's for "true" Ebony (Gaboon), not Macasser Ebony. Not to mention they don't even grow on the same continent.

241 Killer Tomato  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:20pm

re: #231 Sharmuta

Face it, everything's racist.

242 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:37pm
I am to understand that once you go ebony, you never go black.

fixed that for ya!

Wouldn't that be:

I am to understand that once you go ebony, you never go socialist.

;)

243 Aussie Stinger  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:34:40pm

re: #228 Edgar

__________________________________________________ _______

Exactly.

That's my point.

See how silly it looks to judge based on oratory skills.

Yet the Bush-bashers loved it. Just loved it.

244 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:35:44pm

re: #237 quickredfox

Yeah, like about a quarter of it burnt up.
It will be back to normal in 1-2 years.

245 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:37:51pm
Face it, everything's racist.

Nuh uh! Socialists can't be racist. Just ask Al Sharpton.

246 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:06pm
247 Killer Tomato  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:13pm

Well, I have to get up in about 3 hours. Guess I'll take a nap.
Later, all.

248 neocon hippie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:38:46pm

re: #151 quickredfox

How very cool it is to hear that there are some sane people just south of SF.

249 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:35pm

re: #241 Killer Tomato

Face it, everything's racist.

Heh. I just thought of something to really mess with pollsters.

If one calls you, just before concluding the call, ask the pollster, "How do you intend to compensate for the possibility of the Bradley Effect on me?"

It might get a "Huh?" response, or it may throw a pipe wrench into the two gears spinning wildly in that puny skull.

250 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:39pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

Hey, Sharmuta? Been called a "racist" lately?

251 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:39:47pm

re: #234 rawmuse

No, however I have gotten in to trouble with some of my Japanese American friends if I mention a "nip in the air". I don't do that any more.

Do they also boycott NEC (Nippon Electric Corporation)?

252 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:40:36pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

This photoshop's hysterical!

If I didn't know better, I'd think they're really pissed.

/oh, wait

253 Pshawalaw  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:41:09pm

re: #71 Dark_Falcon

Help me out here, what does "PIMF" mean?

254 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:36pm
Help me out here, what does "PIMF" mean?

It's code for "black."

///////////////////

255 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:44pm

re: #251 Bordm

Do they also boycott NEC (Nippon Electric Corporation)?

The term is about on par with the first syllables of "Japanese" and "McDonald" and "Hebrew".

But not "Swedish" or "Polish" or "Czechoslovakian".

256 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:42:50pm

re: #253 Pshawalaw

Help me out here, what does "PIMF" mean?

Preview Is My Friend. For when you post something that likely would have been caught upon proof-reading.

257 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:18pm

re: #253 Pshawalaw

Preview Is My Friend

258 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:43:24pm

re: #253 Pshawalaw

Help me out here, what does "PIMF" mean?

I thought it meant "poor ignorant m-----f------".

But it really means "Preview Is My Friend".

259 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:02pm

re: #250 MandyManners

Hey, Mandy! Been accused of slander recently?

260 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:46pm

re: #218 Aussie Stinger

THE COMPLETE OBAMA GAFFE TAPE

I put together many of these into one video, with the included explanations.

261 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:44:56pm

re: #252 victor_yugo

If I didn't know better, I'd think they're really pissed.

/oh, wait

The PUMAs pissed? Perish the thought!

262 logboy  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:43pm
263 Bordm  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:45:54pm

re: #255 victor_yugo

The term is about on par with the first syllables of "Japanese" and "McDonald" and "Hebrew".

But not "Swedish" or "Polish" or "Czechoslovakian".

To who and why?

264 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:46:40pm

re: #228 Edgar

Maybe we should elect a president based upon his/her ability to make and carry out the right decisions, instead of public speaking skills.

Yet another reason to avoid Obama.

265 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:45pm
The term is about on par with the first syllables of "Japanese" and "McDonald" and "Hebrew".

JapMcHeeb?

Yeah, we're all from somewhere else, but...whoa.

266 Cognito  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:49pm

re: #262 logboy

This one is better.

Not bad. But the framed ZZ Top photo in the background gives it away as a fake. ;)

267 quickredfox  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:47:49pm

Have the PUMAs had any comments in response to Hillary announcing she wasn't going to run again?

268 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:43pm

re: #259 Sharmuta

Hey, Mandy! Been accused of slander recently?

No, nor have I not accused someone of being a pedophile.

269 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:48:51pm

re: #159 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Interesting...

In case you missed this week's issue of the Army/Navy/Air Force Times here are the results of the Army Times' poll of Military personnel re the election (in percent):


McCain Obama

Overall 68 23

Army 68 23

Navy 69 24

Air Force 67 24

Marines 75 18

Retirees 72 20

White Non-Hispanic 76 17

Hispanic 63 27

Black/African-American 12 79 (NOT A TYPO)

Enlisted 67 24

Officers 70 22

Since, historically, most active duty military personnel vote by absentee ballot (like I did in '76, '80, and '84), I wonder if the Democratic lawyers, seeing these numbers, will try to have them disqualified, like they attempted to do to Florida military absentee ballots in the '00 election (anybody remember that one? It was disgusting). And btw, I believe those numbers for the black military personnel; it just reflects the mob mentality of their civilian counterparts.

270 Pshawalaw  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:03pm

re: #256 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Thanks, I am guilty of not previewing sometimes, so knowing the meaning of that response is likely to come in handy.

271 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:49:44pm

re: #259 Sharmuta

Hey, Mandy! Been accused of slander recently?

No, she's been pretty well behaved recently.

272 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:50:37pm

re: #271 Edgar

No, she's been pretty well behaved recently.

Go fuck yourself. I never accused anyone.

273 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:07pm

re: #268 MandyManners

No, nor have I not accused someone of being a pedophile.

Er, double negative there.

274 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:09pm

re: #267 quickredfox

I haven't seen anything about it, but then- I didn't go looking.

My take- she was lying. Political rule #1- never trust a Clinton. I believe she was pressured into that to get the PUMAs in line, that's how scared of them the 0bama campaign is. It won't work. The PUMAs are dedicated to defeating this man.

275 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:09pm

re: #226 Sharmuta

Heh, "I don't pay attention to polls" is an answer to a poll. It's sort of like the "Show of hands, how many of you have never been polled" question.

Sadly, my voice is never heard when it comes to polls. For some reason "Piss off" has never been a legitimate answer to any poll I've heard of.

276 redc1c4  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:46pm

re: #253 Pshawalaw

Help me out here, what does "PIMF" mean?

"N00b"............... RTFM.

/white smoke

277 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:51:54pm

re: #246 Sharmuta

This photoshop's hysterical!

That is hysterical! The real thing would need to have holes cut for his ears.

278 tommygum  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:03pm

re: #186 gmsc

Next time, before you put it out, spread Vaseline all over it, then put it out and leave it out all night.

Put claymores around it. Serves 'em right.

279 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:10pm

re: #272 MandyManners

re: #271 Edgar

No, she's been pretty well behaved recently.

Go fuck yourself. I never accused anyone.

Well, not anymore, I guess.

280 I Need A Bigger Gun  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:13pm

re: #187 Sharmuta

Don't know why you'd want to duck- I thought that was a pretty good insight. "Historic" is code for racist. I agree.

I don't know. I thought maybe I'd catch some flack for it. There are some little O supporters that frequent this board from time to time.

281 sngnsgt  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:18pm

re: #218 Aussie Stinger

Awesome Aussie, great job!

282 victor_yugo  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:18pm

re: #263 Bordm

To who and why?

Well, the first set of slurs were created specifically to put down the ethnicities to which they refer, usually in some sort of cultural conflict.

The second set is the properly-derived demonyms:

The Swedish government is composed of Swedes.
The Polish government is composed of Poles.
The Czechoslovakian government no longer exists, anyway. And the people are properly Czechs and Slovaks.

283 gmsc  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:52:35pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh, "I don't pay attention to polls" is an answer to a poll. It's sort of like the "Show of hands, how many of you have never been polled" question.

Poll question: How many of you believe it's possible to move an object using only the power of your mind? Raise my hand!

284 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:53:08pm

re: #269 I Need A Bigger Gun

Since, historically, most active duty military personnel vote by absentee ballot (like I did in '76, '80, and '84), I wonder if the Democratic lawyers, seeing these numbers, will try to have them disqualified, like they attempted to do to Florida military absentee ballots in the '00 election (anybody remember that one? It was disgusting). And btw, I believe those numbers for the black military personnel; it just reflects the mob mentality of their civilian counterparts.

You'd figure the Navy would have higher numbers for an Annapolis grad but those are still sweet figures.

285 Edgar  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:53:32pm

re: #264 gmsc

Yet another reason to avoid Obama.

I couldn't care less about Obama's gaffes, personally. He speaks well for the most part. But when he acts, it's a different story.

286 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:53:37pm

re: #280 I Need A Bigger Gun

I don't know. I thought maybe I'd catch some flack for it. There are some little O supporters that frequent this board from time to time.

And we properly put them in there place.

287 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:53:40pm

Here's one that I did last week (the night of the Joe the Plumber story about how That One accidentally let the truth slip out).

288 HelloDare  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:54:43pm
289 zombie  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:50pm

Ah, let us all bow our heads in solemn reverence, for the unforgettable Rudy Ray Moore has died.

As the owner of one of the world's very few Rudy Ray Moore record collections, I shall have to hold some kind of wake.

By sheer coincidence, I had okra for dinner tonight. If you're a Rudy Ray Moore aficionado, no more need be said!

290 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:55:58pm

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

291 GreenSoccer  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:57:08pm

re: #68 tackle

Exactly. So people who don't read closely may vote for redefining marriage just to avoid seeing themselves as a bigot. The AG is the infamous Jerry Brown.
If the no vote is greater than the yes vote and you hear that California has voted to allow gay marriage, the media will likely not report that the voters were tricked into it by one man "Jerry Brown". And Gov Schwarzenegger is obviously a RINO.

We are referring to Dennis Prager's article this week at townhall.com:

[Link: townhall.com...]

292 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Oct 21, 2008 11:59:45pm

Anyway this is kind of a drive by post. I got my Incredible Hulk dvd in the mail (shout out to Netflix) and I remembered why the big green guy is my favorite super hero. Bruce Banner is the perfect metaphor for the USA. The USA is the most pacifistic nation in history. We aid countries that hate us. We send brave troops to defend those that despise us. We keep begging "Please don't make us mad. You won't like us when we're mad" Meanwhile the rest of the globe keeps gleefully poking our skull with a pointy stick till we explode and become an unstoppable over muscled green wrecking ball destroying everything in our path
/pro hulk off

293 Pshawalaw  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:36am

?

294 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:00am

I believe the military survey numbers. When we took over for the Georgia National Guard in Iraq, I could not believe how segregated everything was within their ranks. Everything from their tower shifts to the living quarters were separated based on race. The only thing that wasn't segregated were the NCOs running the post. But they've bitched about one another as soon as the other would turn their back. Apparently the Civil War is alive and well in Georgia.

295 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:47am

re: #292 Neo Con since 9-11

Dang, you can sure turn a phrase!

296 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:25am

I have to admit, while I worry about Bob's blood pressure, he sure is spot frickin' on.

Tony Randal.... LMAO!

297 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:28am

The mayor of Muskogee has more executive experience than Barack Hussein Obama.

Think about that for a second.

298 zombie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:44am

If you want a sample of the greatness you missed, the trailer for Rudy Ray Moore's best-known film, Dolomite, is on YouTube.

Make sure you're wearing headphones for this one -- you wouldn't the neighbors (or anybody, for that matter) to hear what you're listening to.

Not safe for [fill in all known nouns here].

299 Pshawalaw  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:59am

re: #276 redc1c4

?

300 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:15am

re: #295 rawmuse

Thankees I knew that 4 years as an English major warn't wasted

301 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:48am

Well that's my drive-by for the night, gonna hit the sack. Busy doing stuffs lately, taking up most of my free time. Been missing you scaly folks lately, hope all is well with y'all.

G'nite.

302 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:52am

re: #282 victor_yugo

The first 3 are slurs? Interesting, you ever been to Japan or talked to someone from Japan to see if they consider it a slur? Ireland maybe? I will agree on the last one though.

303 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:47am

re: #298 zombie

That is fly.

304 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:06:25am

re: #292 Neo Con since 9-11

Anyway this is kind of a drive by post. I got my Incredible Hulk dvd in the mail (shout out to Netflix) and I remembered why the big green guy is my favorite super hero. Bruce Banner is the perfect metaphor for the USA. The USA is the most pacifistic nation in history. We aid countries that hate us. We send brave troops to defend those that despise us. We keep begging "Please don't make us mad. You won't like us when we're mad" Meanwhile the rest of the globe keeps gleefully poking our skull with a pointy stick till we explode and become an unstoppable over muscled green wrecking ball destroying everything in our path
/pro hulk off

or, in other words:

I don’t know what ‘the west’ wants, but Americans are simple: we want
the rest of the world to go away and stop bothering us.

Understand I’m not speaking for myself — I’d be on a plane somewhere
365 days a year if I could manage it. But Americans generally don’t
like being forced to confront the outside world. We have quite a large
country of our own and if we find it cramped there’s always Canada
(America Lite).

Americans want to spend their days working. We like working. We like
coming up with crazy plans and turning them into billion dollar
businesses. If we’re not working we want to hang out with family. We
don’t like thinking about politics, we’re not the French. We don’t
like having to learn the differences between Shia and Sunni because,
quite frankly, we don’t give a damn. We just want to work and hang out.

From time to time Americans are forced to recognize the existence of
some other piece of the world: Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq. We resent
being forced to do so. We didn’t really know these places existed,
didn’t care, and don’t wish to be irritated by them because we have
work to do.

So we fall back on simple, direct solutions to ease the irritation:
nuke ‘em all. Nuke ‘em all, and then get back to work. It’s not that
we harbor particular malice toward one country or another, one religion
or another. What we harbor is indifference. If you threaten our
indifference by forcing us to pay attention to you and your intractable
foreign problems we may have to blow something up just so you’ll go
away. There is, after all, money to be made, and work to be done, and
family to be hung out with.

We’re busy: don’t make us kill you.

I grant that in some cases it’s our own government’s actions that force
us into the position of having to learn where Fallujah is
(answer: who cares?) but that doesn’t alter our underlying sense that
the whole world should just stop bothering us and let us get back
to work.

Said by M. Takhallus in [Link: tinyurl.com...]
formerlly
[Link: eteraz.wordpress.com...]

305 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:02am

re: #298 zombie

If you want a sample of the greatness you missed, the trailer for Rudy Ray Moore's best-known film, Dolomite, is on YouTube.

Make sure you're wearing headphones for this one -- you wouldn't the neighbors (or anybody, for that matter) to hear what you're listening to.

Not safe for [fill in all known nouns here].

I had a bunch of his 8-tracks way back when. He was a riot.

306 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:59am

Oh, you know who is back I see. Doesn't have much else better to do I guess.

I'm back in Beijing now, just checked into the hotel. Nanchang was a blast, the turnwife and I ventured out into the back streets of the city and mingled with the locals. We must have been the first foreigners to visit some of the little noodle kitchens and sit down with the locals to eat. At one we had accumulated a crowd of about 10 children who were wondering around all giggly around us. It got a little overbearing after a while so I gestured move away and said boo-yow. The shopkeeper shooed them away but the mingled outside until we were done eating then the oldest approached us again. She had brought back her English language studies booklet so I caved in an read English and quizzed them all for a little while. They followed us all the way back to the hotel! Another little noodle kitchen we frequented was run by this husband and wife, she worked the day shift and he filled in later in the day. This place is about 8' x 12' with the cooking wok set alongside the street side window, great food and of course cheap. A bowl of noodles with a meat and vegetable topping (soup stock flavor to die for) ran about 4 RMB and icy cold Tsingtao is about the same. We got such good service considering the total lack of language understanding. Although the owners were obviously barely getting by the man refused to allow me to leave a tip! We returned the next day and had an early lunch and the turnwife sat beside the wife and they watched Chinese soaps on the TV. The turnwife says these Chinese soaps are juicy ... Ha! Just fantastically kind and friendly people over here in China.

307 gmsc  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:09:15am

re: #298 zombie

If you want a sample of the greatness you missed, the trailer for Rudy Ray Moore's best-known film, Dolomite, is on YouTube.

Make sure you're wearing headphones for this one -- you wouldn't the neighbors (or anybody, for that matter) to hear what you're listening to.

Not safe for [fill in all known nouns here].

Isn't that one of those old '70s socialistploitation movies?

308 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:43am

Wow, all the Dolemite are on Netflix. Including "Shaolin Dolemite".

Nah, can't do it.

309 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:15:12am

Obambi is ahead by 7.4%.

Democrats won't even need to vote,
he has already won.

*looking on the internet for my social security sign up forms*

"LONG LIVE THE DEMOCRAT SOCIALISTS PARTY"

310 gmsc  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:15am

re: #309 ibmkeyboard

Obambi is ahead by 7.4%.

Democrats won't even need to vote,

Works for me.

311 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:05am

bbl, were going to roam the streets around this hotel and see what the locals are up to. Such fun, and really feel far more secure than I did walking the streets in NYC or SF for that matter. No put down intended Lawhawk and Zomb, I love the US but just wanted to point out to those who may not have experienced China that the normal folk here are good people.

312 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:19:27am

re: #304 redc1c4


I don’t know what ‘the west’ wants, but Americans are simple: we want
the rest of the world to go away and stop bothering us.


Americans aren't simple, we don't want the rest of the world to go away, but we are tired of Europe starting world wars and expecting us to finish them

Americans want to spend their days working. We like working.


I'll agree with that. The company you work for got an extra slot for me? I', a hard working smart ass with years of PR experience

313 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:19:46am

Everyone in bed already? I guess I should do the same.

314 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:20:03am

re: #310 gmsc
Obambi is ahead by 7.4%.

Democrats won't even need to vote,

Works for me.


Me also,
the dummies will be drunk election day,
celebrating Bambie's win.

315 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:22:16am

re: #313 logboy

Everyone in bed already? I guess I should do the same.

I would love to go to bed right now. Got some studying to do. Stupid quiz tomorrow.

316 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:22:20am

re: #311 turn

bbl, were going to roam the streets around this hotel and see what the locals are up to. Such fun, and really feel far more secure than I did walking the streets in NYC or SF for that matter. No put down intended Lawhawk and Zomb, I love the US but just wanted to point out to those who may not have experienced China that the normal folk here are good people.

ahhhhhh.... the optimism of youth. watch out for tanks, and cops that don't need warrants or probable cause..... anything worse that that, we just won't hear from you ever again..... travel safe!

/reality

317 empills  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:22:49am

Hello lizards. How is everyone this morning?

318 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:37am

re: #311 turn

Now, about those tire valves...

319 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:53am

re: #313 logboy

Everyone in bed already? I guess I should do the same.

Thanks for your service.

Sgt. keyboard
Nha Trang Vietnam
1967-1969

no wounds,
the bastards couldn't hit me.

320 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:01am

re: #315 TheMatrix31

I would love to go to bed right now. Got some studying to do. Stupid quiz tomorrow.

Quiz for? I had two midterms last week. Not fun, although I did ok.

321 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:10am

When do the fruit cups get here?

322 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:25:36am

re: #321 DesertSage

in about 90 minutes

323 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:26:01am

Obama will only make the economy worse.

324 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:28:21am

re: #320 logboy

Quiz for? I had two midterms last week. Not fun, although I did ok.

This class called "Conversational Structures". Basically the breakdown and analysis of conversations. Yes, it's as boring as it sounds.

It's my first quiz in the class, and I didn't do so hot on the first assignment (80.5) so I need to do well.

325 odinga  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:11am

I sense a disturbance in the Force. People are getting tired of Oblabla.

DNC is in PANIC Mode over PA. The Obama campaign is a house of cards. No amount of money can fix it. Blue Collar is voting RED. I feel it. Too many people find the polls do not reflect the MOOD.

326 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:15am

re: #324 TheMatrix31

Major? Underwater basket weaving? :)

327 gmsc  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:43am

re: #322 rawmuse

in about 90 minutes

How about, in addition to the fruitcups, another healthy snack?

328 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:52am

I've voted. I'm trying to convince the few who haven't, maybe got one. I'm going to the next Palin rally in NM. It will take Joe the Plumber, Sarah, PUMA, and Joe Biden, (who is he really for?), to drag McCain over the finish line. If we can't it's on America's gimme gimme heads.

329 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:31:25am
Knoxville gasoline prices continue to fall, dropping Tuesday to an average of $2.87 for a gallon of regular unleaded, according to the AAA Daily Fuel Gauge Report. Diesel dropped 3.5 cents to $3.554.
Gas prices in the Knoxville area have plunged about 70 cents in the past month and are down about $1.78 since peaking Sept. 15 at $4.652, the highest average price in the country at that time.
A year ago, Knoxville motorists paid an average of $2.685 for gas, the auto club reported.
Retail fuel prices have fallen steadily in recent weeks as consumers have cut consumption and oil prices have plunged more than 50 percent since hitting a high of $147.27 a barrel on July 11.


Eat Sand Adinerjabbernutjob.

330 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:31:26am

re: #123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Norton, Symantec, etc, and any anti-spyware, anti-virus or firewall programs you have to pay for are a waste of money. Delete them.
There are great programs available for free that work as good or better than those you have to pay for, and like I said, I've been using them for years and never had a problem.
See my #105 above.


I was a serious Norton supporter for about 15 years, but the past 5 years they've bloated beyond recognition and are almost their own operating system, for complexity.

Microsoft's firewall only checks and blocks incoming traffic, and ignores outgoing traffic. Meaning you have no defense against a questionable program on your computer 'phoning home' without you knowing about it. Thus you're safer with a firewall that monitors both incoming and outgoing traffic for problems.

I played with a wide variety of freeware antivirus, antispyware and firewall programs for a couple of years, and finally got tired of small incompatibilities between them, as well as a lack of support from authors who understandably cannot spend much time helping someone for free. There ain't no free lunch, and ya gets what ya pays for.

Due to ongoing pesky little annoyances, after reading some reviews I finally dumped all of my antivirus, antispyware and firewall software and got Sunbelt Software's combined antivirus/antispyware product (VIPRE), and also their firewall. I left the standard XP firewall on my wife's computer, and installed the Sunbelt firewall on mine for comparison. The Sunbelt product is definitely a stronger firewall, but you need a bit of technical knowledge to keep it tuned up, similar to ZoneAlarm Pro.

What I like best about it is how they blended VIPRE's antivirus and antispyware modules together, which makes a more efficient product that uses less processor time. VIPRE also has a tool for showing you what programs load at startup, versus what programs are running in the background right now.

Also take a look at Registry Mechanic to keep your registry clean, Driver Detective to keep your drivers updated, and Acronis TrueImage which gives better hard drive backup protection than Norton Ghost. Get a monster external USB hard drive, do regular backups with TrueImage, and keep the USB drive in a safe, or at a different location.

Also check out a nifty little free utility called Process Explorer by Sysinternals, a Microsoft subsidiary. This little program is like Windows Task Manager on steroids. If a pesky program is hogging all of your CPU time, Process Explorer can be used to throttle it down or even to temporarily suspend it's operation so you can go about your business.

Luck.
.

331 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:32:36am

re: #326 logboy

Were you USMC?

332 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:34:57am

re: #323 DesertSage

Obama will only make the economy worse.

Obama and his friends are the reason the economy is in the state it's in now. He damn sure isn't going to fix what he help break.

333 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:35:01am

re: #326 logboy

Major? Underwater basket weaving? :)

Might as well be. Political Science, actually.

334 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:35:45am

re: #331 DesertSage
Minnesota Army National Guard. You?

335 odinga  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:35:57am

re: #328 Rancher

I've voted. I'm trying to convince the few who haven't, maybe got one. I'm going to the next Palin rally in NM. It will take Joe the Plumber, Sarah, PUMA, and Joe Biden, (who is he really for?), to drag McCain over the finish line. If we can't it's on America's gimme gimme heads.

Good work! Don't ever give up. The wind is changing directions. Balack Obama has played the race card too many times. Blue Collars don't like that, especially in PA. And the GUN thing is in PA and VA.

Obama has not closed the deal. Ignore the POLLS. Say Hi to Sarah.

336 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:36:26am

Dan Rather - Election Night Coverage on HDNet

Like anyone takes that moron seriously anymore.

337 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:37:21am

re: #333 TheMatrix31


Yikes. You have fun with that, I'll stick to education. Maybe I'll actually graduate within the next 10 years.

338 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:37:56am

re: #334 logboy

I know a Captain from the MN National Guard!

339 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:39:33am

re: #334 logboy

Minnesota Army National Guard. You?

I was a Marine way back in the 80's. Didn't see any action.
Thank you for your service!

Semper Fi, bro....

340 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:40:24am

re: #337 logboy

Yikes. You have fun with that, I'll stick to education. Maybe I'll actually graduate within the next 10 years.

Maybe I should switch over to communications, and go into the media and kick the ass of every one of these partisan hack sources nowadays.

341 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:41:37am

re: #339 DesertSage

I was a Marine way back in the 80's. Didn't see any action.
Thank you for your service!

Semper Fi, bro....


I've been looking for a reason to post this, and you are it. Enjoy the EAS Song.

342 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:43:27am

re: #315 TheMatrix31

I would love to go to bed right now. Got some studying to do. Stupid quiz tomorrow.

Your studying right now, right? ;-)

343 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:44:15am

re: #340 TheMatrix31

Maybe I should switch over to communications, and go into the media and kick the ass of every one of these partisan hack sources nowadays.

Might not be a bad idea. Hell, I'll join you. Every prof or dept head in Educ is a bloody liberal. I've already had my grade docked a couple times because I was a soldier and they don't like my viewpoints.

344 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:45:23am

re: #343 logboy

Might not be a bad idea. Hell, I'll join you. Every prof or dept head in Educ is a bloody liberal. I've already had my grade docked a couple times because I was a soldier and they don't like my viewpoints.

That's what I'm afraid of in these poli sci classes.

Where do you go to school?

345 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:46:13am

re: #341 logboy

I've been looking for a reason to post this, and you are it. Enjoy the EAS Song.

That was pretty cool. Someone you know?

346 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:47:03am

re: #179 logboy

When I wrote that I was still in Iraq and had two hands and all 10 fingers (and no TBI). Usually I just do the three fingered hunt and peck now. I have recently started to use my voice recognition software again because I am trying to bang out my book, Lumberjack in a Desert. Unfortunately, I cannot use the software to type in websites like LGF. For some reason it won't allow me to. I have to type it in their software and paste it over.


Are you using Dragon software?
.

347 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:48:29am

re: #344 TheMatrix31

That's what I'm afraid of in these poli sci classes.

Where do you go to school?

I'm at UW-Stout now, but I used to go to the U of MN in Minneapolis. Now that place is liberal!

348 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:50:20am

re: #346 Tamron

re: #345 DesertSage

That was pretty cool. Someone you know?

Wish I did, I like his music. There's a lot more on youtube. Be warned, much of it is NSFW.

349 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:50:23am

I found it...World's Most Disgusting Apartment Is In Houston(Pics)

[Link: www.topnewsblog.info...]

350 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:51:16am

re: #346 Tamron

Dragon Speak 9, but usually I plunk away with 3 fingers.

351 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:52:15am

re: #347 logboy

I'm at UW-Stout now, but I used to go to the U of MN in Minneapolis. Now that place is liberal!

Yikes. It's precisely why I didn't even APPLY to Berkeley.

352 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:53:23am

re: #325 odinga

I sense a disturbance in the Force. People are getting tired of Oblabla.

DNC is in PANIC Mode over PA. The Obama campaign is a house of cards. No amount of money can fix it. Blue Collar is voting RED. I feel it. Too many people find the polls do not reflect the MOOD.

and i'm not even running......

%-)

353 logboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:55:07am

Alright kids I'm out. I have a lot of school work tomorrow.

354 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:55:17am

And then there's the case of the kid who lights his pants on fire.

[Link: www.collegehumor.com...]

355 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:56:48am

re: #325 odinga

I sense a disturbance in the Force. People are getting tired of Oblabla.

DNC is in PANIC Mode over PA. The Obama campaign is a house of cards. No amount of money can fix it. Blue Collar is voting RED. I feel it. Too many people find the polls do not reflect the MOOD.

To top it off, 0bama's taking time off to head to Hawaii, and biden's been gagged. One of the most accurate pools in the country has the race down to 1% with McCain making up 13% in one week. I have to agree- the bloom's off the rose. And red's not even running!

356 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:56:52am

re: #334 logboy

Minnesota Army National Guard. You?

CA ARNG, 83/03.....

/white smoke!

357 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:57:07am

re: #353 logboy

Thanks for responding!

358 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:58:49am

re: #330 Tamron

Tamron- Just came back here. Thanks. But like the old saying goes- If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Registry Mechanic is not freeware, it is free to try, then you have to pay. I'll check into Process Explorer. And to EVERYONE reading this, if you're offered any type of "free scan" for all your supposed problems for your computer. Avoid it!

359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:59:07am

The Big Lebowski: What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Dude.
The Big Lebowski: Huh?
The Dude: Uhh... I don't know sir.
The Big Lebowski: Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
The Dude: Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:00:08am

re: #358 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Been there. Done that. Proud owner of the t-shirt.

361 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:09:51am

re: #360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been there. Done that. Proud owner of the t-shirt.

I'm only trying to help those who might or do see the BS offered by the numerous bullshit ads, and think they're getting something for free, and trying to prevent them from getting ripped off.

Again, go back to my #105 above.

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:15:04am

re: #361 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Oh, I know. I am saying I have clicked the link then spent the next few days repairing the damage. You are giving valuable warnings.

363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:15:25am

Back to bed.

364 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:15:58am

re: #316 redc1c4

ahhhhhh.... the optimism of youth. watch out for tanks, and cops that don't need warrants or probable cause..... anything worse that that, we just won't hear from you ever again..... travel safe!

/reality

Back again, I know I know Red. You may have noticed I spoke about the common people and not the government. Truth be known the commoners are capitalists through and through and hard working decent people. They love Americans (at lease as far as I can tell). Surely they want to go to school on us and will take advantage business wise any opportunity they have. Not much unlike business in the US I suppose. Thanks, I'll travel safe and although I tend to be optimistic I'm far from young. Ha!

365 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:16:12am

re: #362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, I know. I am saying I have clicked the link then spent the next few days repairing the damage. You are giving valuable warnings.

Ok, sorry! : )

366 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:16:18am

re: #358 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Tamron- Just came back here. Thanks. But like the old saying goes- If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Registry Mechanic is not freeware, it is free to try, then you have to pay. I'll check into Process Explorer. And to EVERYONE reading this, if you're offered any type of "free scan" for all your supposed problems for your computer. Avoid it!

A good place to go for a legit free scan of your computer is TrendMicro tools select the "House Call" option.

If you decide to try "HijackThis" don't change any settings unless you are an expert user. Just use it to make a log file to send to an expert for diagnosing your problem. A mistake on your part can make things much worse.

367 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:16:51am

re: #363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Back to bed.

can we wrap you in foil to retain the juices?

368 Mr Krabs  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:17:38am

#18 Odinga

I bet $250 (Australian dollars) on MacCain when the polls had McCain 14 points behind, at 6:1 odds. I'm feeling pretty good about this. Although it will probably be my one and only bet, on anything, ever.

369 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:20:34am

re: #364 turn

Back again, I know I know Red. You may have noticed I spoke about the common people and not the government. Truth be known the commoners are capitalists through and through and hard working decent people. They love Americans (at lease as far as I can tell). Surely they want to go to school on us and will take advantage business wise any opportunity they have. Not much unlike business in the US I suppose. Thanks, I'll travel safe and although I tend to be optimistic I'm far from young. Ha!

i'm not cynical: i'm experienced...... what the people want there and what the government will allow at the various levels are two different things.......

love many, trust few, *always* cut the cards.

370 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:20:44am

Oh brother! This election is not just tainted with racism, but islamophobia too!

Of course, who does reuters go to for a soundbite, but CAIR?

371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:22:57am

re: #366 Bordm

A good place to go for a legit free scan of your computer is TrendMicro tools select the "House Call" option.

If you decide to try "HijackThis" don't change any settings unless you are an expert user. Just use it to make a log file to send to an expert for diagnosing your problem. A mistake on your part can make things much worse.

You never said why we'd want to use this, or what it accomplishes. I know the TrendMicro name from my hotmail account.

372 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:23:04am

re: #318 rawmuse

Now, about those tire valves...

Sorry, can't make the connection. At any rate, talking about tire valves. One thing I did for a while today is watch a drive up bike repairman fix flat tires for the locals. They put out a big sandwich board that has the price of their various repairs (this is what I gathered not that I could read anything other than how many RMB for each). This guy and his wife were fixing flats and it was very entertaining to watch. They were so meticulous in there work, first buffing the tire applying the solvent then the patches. Oh and hand air pumps of course. One trick I picked up on was he had sort of a mini hammer and anvil setup and would pound around and around the patch to really make that sucker stick. I guess you learn something every day, ah and he did remover the shrader valve for a close inspection and replacement if needed. Ha!

373 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:25:00am

re: #370 Sharmuta

Oh brother! This election is not just tainted with racism, but islamophobia too!

Of course, who does reuters go to for a soundbite, but CAIR?

They do CAIR, ya know...

/Geez....How intolerant....

374 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:25:11am

re: #369 redc1c4


Point well taken, thanks.

375 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:26:29am

Bordm?! HI! :-)

376 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:27:46am

re: #371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You never said why we'd want to use this, or what it accomplishes. I know the TrendMicro name from my hotmail account.

BTW, I'm no computer expert. Never claimed to be. I just read a lot.

377 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:28:02am

re: #374 turn

Point well taken, thanks.

no problemo: it's all part of the free service!

(it takes years of exposure to get this way. %-)

378 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:28:50am

re: #368 Mr Krabs

Outlaw Jones at Del Mar and General Carter at Saratoga were the only things I ever bet on.

And won.

This year.


/damn ponies

379 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:29:44am

re: #370 Sharmuta

Oh brother! This election is not just tainted with racism, but islamophobia too!

Of course, who does reuters go to for a soundbite, but CAIR?

Wow Powell didn't outright deny rumors that Obama might be a closet Muslim instead he said:

"Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country?" he asked on NBC's "Meet the Press."

380 turn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:32:36am

re: #377 redc1c4

No way, 96! You're pulling my leg right?

381 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:36:19am

re: #379 turn

Wow Powell didn't outright deny rumors that Obama might be a closet Muslim instead he said:

"Is there something wrong with being a Muslim in this country?" he asked on NBC's "Meet the Press."


At face value, nothing. I mean....shit- didn't stop Ellison from getting elected. But if that is the case (which I doubt), why wasn't this disclosed until now? I think it would make most thinking people ponder what else was being hidden from them.

Plus I imagine a fair number American Muslims are much more saner and moderate than 0bama's "NAW NAW NAW....GOD DAMN AMERICA!" faux 'church'.

382 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:37:19am

re: #371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You never said why we'd want to use this, or what it accomplishes. I know the TrendMicro name from my hotmail account.

House Call will scan your computer for viruses and spyware, it's a handy online scan tool if you think you have problems. It will also remove known problems. HijackThis will give you a list of all running processes with an option for killing them individually. I suggest using only it to create a log file to identify problems, unless you are truly an expert. I never use the built in kill function as I would rather use another tool or clean the registry of the infection by hand (I've been fixing computers for 30 years). As a big Reagan supporter, I'm a fan of the "trust but verify" school.

383 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:37:44am

Obama's not a Muslim.

Obama's an Atheist.

384 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:38:07am

re: #380 turn

No way, 96! You're pulling my leg right?

that sounds like w*rk.... why don't you pull my finger instead?

/i'm usually 86: just ask Mel Lono....... %-)

385 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:39:23am

re: #375 littleoldlady

Bordm?! HI! :-)

{ { { { {littleoldlady} } } } }

Where's my fruitcup?

386 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:41:06am

re: #383 TheMatrix31


Who needs religion when you are THE ONE?

387 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:41:12am

re: #383 TheMatrix31

Obama's not a Muslim.

Obama's an Atheistsshole.

they come in all sizes, shapes and colors, but one thing remains the same:
they will always be assholes, and no amount of TP will change that.

388 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:42:30am

re: #385 Bordm

{ { { { {littleoldlady} } } } }

Where's my fruitcup?

it's in the still..... just be patient.

(if we can keep LoL from eating it all..... %-)

389 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:43:27am

re: #385 Bordm

Patience...patience. I'm cooking it now. ;-)

390 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:46:11am

re: #389 littleoldlady

Patience...patience. I'm cooking it now. ;-)

Warm fruit?

391 empills  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:46:23am

you know if you yell fruitcup at the computer screen at work, people will look at you funny. they are all staring at me now

392 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:46:40am

re: #389 littleoldlady

Patience...patience. I'm cooking it now. ;-)

patience my ass.... let's kill something!

/backsliding

393 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:47:29am

re: #391 empills

you know if you yell fruitcup at the computer screen at work, people will look at you funny. they are all staring at me now

why do you think *that* is the reason?

/just curious %-)

394 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:47:39am

re: #389 littleoldlady

Patience...patience. I'm cooking it now. ;-)

Do you recall the old cartoon of the 2 buzzards sitting on the tree branch? Patience my a**, if something doesn't come along pretty soon, I'm gonna kill something.

395 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:48:44am

Try Gibson Research's "SHIELDS UP" scanner. Not a download -- it sees your IP address and pings all vital ports on your internet connection, letting you know afterwards how the test came out. If you have any leaks it recommends how to plug 'em. Shows you how vulnerable your computer is to hacker attacks.

Click on the Shields Up logo on his opening page, and then scroll down to the Shields Up selection and select that. Then click on the radio buttons for the type of port scan you desire.

Steve Gibson is a legend. Great website -- read his info notes. Also has a few other free utilities to plug internet leaks etc.
.

396 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:49:04am

re: #392 redc1c4

patience my ass.... let's kill something!

/backsliding

Yeah that's it, your memory is better then mine

397 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:49:08am

re: #394 Bordm

I DO! LOL!

/you need to talk to redc1c4 - that's his department...

398 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:51:15am

You guys need to be nice to me today. As a Pennsylvanian I'm starting to feel just a tad beat up in this election. :-(

/did I say starting?

399 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:52:01am

re: #398 littleoldlady

We're getting crackers with Fruitcup today, right?

400 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:52:57am

re: #395 Tamron

Aw, I remember Spinrite from the DOS days. I'll have to check it out to see if it's as good as it used to be

401 empills  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:53:48am

re: #398 littleoldlady

I am with you littleoldlady I live in Pottstown.

402 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:54:03am

re: #399 Sharmuta

Sharmuta! :-)

Bitter, racist, redneck crackers.

/sheesh

403 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:54:52am

re: #401 empills

empills! :-)

Howdy neighbor! I'm in Delco.

404 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:57:13am

re: #382 Bordm

House Call will scan your computer for viruses and spyware, it's a handy online scan tool if you think you have problems. It will also remove known problems. HijackThis will give you a list of all running processes with an option for killing them individually. I suggest using only it to create a log file to identify problems, unless you are truly an expert. I never use the built in kill function as I would rather use another tool or clean the registry of the infection by hand (I've been fixing computers for 30 years). As a big Reagan supporter, I'm a fan of the "trust but verify" school.

LOL, ok, thanks!

405 empills  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:57:25am

re: #403 littleoldlady

littleoldlady have you gotten any phonecalls from obamanites yet?

406 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:57:40am

re: #398 littleoldlady

You guys need to be nice to me today. As a Pennsylvanian I'm starting to feel just a tad beat up in this election. :-(

/did I say starting?

Don't fret it's going to be alright. After Murtha's comments, Pennsylvania going red this time around, in spite of ACORN. They will come up short no matter how many votes they try to steal.

407 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:59:01am

re: #385 Bordm

{ { { { {littleoldlady} } } } }

Where's my fruitcup?

I'd ban him for begging. : )

408 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

409 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:00:20am

Lemmee guess....these are some very special World-Series themed fruitcups

410 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:01:32am

re: #407 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'd ban him for begging. : )

That was a big hug (I haven't seen her for awhile), followed by a childish demand respectful request.

411 empills  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:02:13am

fruitcup yeeeeaaahh

412 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:02:41am

re: #398 littleoldlady

You guys need to be nice to me today. As a Pennsylvanian I'm starting to feel just a tad beat up in this election. :-(

/did I say starting?

well, if you lived in the PRC with me, you'd get crap 24/7/365, instead of every 4 years.....

but our winters are warmer, and i throw great parties! besides, the in ground pool is still 80*ish, and it was 90* here again today: if you're gonna do fall, this is the way.

(now, will you please throw out Murtha? %-)

413 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:03:51am

re: #405 empills

littleoldlady have you gotten any phonecalls from obamanites yet?

You're kidding, right?

There's two Republicans and one Democrat in this house. (I'm the Dem, btw.) The interesting thing is the Republicans are getting mail from the Democrats, I'm getting mail from the Repubs, and as far as phonecalls...I haven't answered my phone in over a month but I KNOW we're getting calls from everyone running for office anywhere in this country! ;-)

re: #406 Bordm

At the very least I hope that Murtha is FINALLY sent packing.

The election is going to be close in PA...

414 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:04:09am

re: #408 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------------->
Help yourselves!

Good morning!

415 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:04:33am

Where are the crackers?!

416 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:04:43am

re: #410 Bordm

That was a big hug (I haven't seen her for awhile), followed by a childish demand respectful request.

And whose fault is that?!

/you need to show up more often!
//I miss you!

417 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:05:04am

re: #412 redc1c4

well, if you lived in the PRC with me, you'd get crap 24/7/365, instead of every 4 years.....

but our winters are warmer, and i throw great parties! besides, the in ground pool is still 80*ish, and it was 90* here again today: if you're gonna do fall, this is the way.

(now, will you please throw out Murtha? %-)

Warm weather sucks.

418 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:06:10am

red! :-)

but our winters are warmer, and i throw great parties! besides, the in ground pool is still 80*ish, and it was 90* here again today: if you're gonna do fall, this is the way.

shaddup!

/the heat is on in this house
//not happy

419 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:07:15am

Matrix! :-)

re: #415 Sharmuta

Where are the crackers?!

Raises hand...

/ask empill to oblige and you'll have TWO ;-)

420 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:08:18am

empills.

/sorry!

421 empills  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:08:28am

raises hand yup if Murtha says it it must be true

422 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:08:31am

When lol's fruit cups make their appearance while I'm still here, I KNOW I've been up way too long.

423 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:08:47am

re: #419 littleoldlady

{lol} it's just.... I lost my vanity mirror. ;)

Thanks for the Fruitcup.

424 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:08:59am

re: #400 Bordm

Aw, I remember Spinrite from the DOS days. I'll have to check it out to see if it's as good as it used to be


Wow. How many people these days know the rudimentary DOS commands? I got my start with an Epson QX-10 in 1981, and upgraded to DOS a few years later. Still have a few old DOS utilities. Really liked the QuickBASIC compiler.

Do you use the MS PowerToys "COMMAND LINE HERE" utility, in Windows Explorer? Really handy. Right-click on any folder, and it lets you drop to the DOS command line directly in that folder.
.

425 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:09:03am

re: #416 littleoldlady

And whose fault is that?!

/you need to show up more often!
//I miss you!

This is usually my sleep time, I stayed awake just to see you and say hi!

426 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:10:36am

re: #425 Bordm

:-) :-) :-)

427 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:11:46am

re: #413 littleoldlady

Hi, LoL! Do you offer yogurt, prunes and bran muffins with that fruitcup?

(Election time, don'cha know...)
.

428 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:12:47am

Uh-oh, Little Old Lady's dance card is filling up.......

:-)
.

429 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:13:09am

re: #417 TheMatrix31

Warm weather sucks.

says the young person with no ortho damage......

talk to me after your first major surgery. %-)

430 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:16:43am

littleoldlady? Have you read this yet? Every person in this country who supports Israel should take this very seriously.

431 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:16:50am

re: #427 Tamron

Tamron! :-)

You're on your own with the prunes.

/got blueberries?

432 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:17:30am

re: #424 Tamron

IBM 5100 in 1980 here, it ran on BASIC. It's the granddaddy of the IBM PC line, as the first consumer IBM PC was the 5150. I worked on all the 5100 series, among many other series.

433 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:17:34am

On FoxNews, the side bar says "Palin Apologizes for Pro-American comments"

What the hell is that about?!

434 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:17:40am

re: #400 Bordm

Aw, I remember Spinrite from the DOS days. I'll have to check it out to see if it's as good as it used to be

Steve Gibson (spinrite author) does a weekly podcast called Security Now. Once each show he will read a testimonial from a spinrite user, as an advertisement. A few weeks ago he read a letter claiming to be from a Navy Seal telling about a mission where they downloaded and used spinrite to repair a critical laptop they were using for communication and GPS navigation, saving lives. It's an amazing story, some doubt that it's true. Here's a link to the audiofile if you want to listen: Security Now #159
The story starts 13:45 in.

Security Now is an interesting podcast for those interested in computer security and general geek stuff: Security Now

435 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:19:05am

re: #418 littleoldlady

BTW, no ignoring you intended. Thanks for the fruit cup! Just between you and I, my ex is a pain in the the A**.

436 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:20:50am

re: #428 Tamron

Uh-oh, Little Old Lady's dance card is filling up.......

:-)
.

but can she Sagger Dance?

437 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:21:52am

re: #434 Spirit93

Steve Gibson (spinrite author) does a weekly podcast called Security Now. Once each show he will read a testimonial from a spinrite user, as an advertisement. A few weeks ago he read a letter claiming to be from a Navy Seal telling about a mission where they downloaded and used spinrite to repair a critical laptop they were using for communication and GPS navigation, saving lives. It's an amazing story, some doubt that it's true. Here's a link to the audiofile if you want to listen: Security Now #159
The story starts 13:45 in.

Security Now is an interesting podcast for those interested in computer security and general geek stuff: Security Now

Serenity NOW!

438 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:24:25am

Sharmuta,

I'm guessing that sometime after November 4th but before January 20th Israel will take out Iran's nukes. Regardless of who wins. I don't think she can wait for a new administration to re-work whatever deals she has with Bush.

/and A LOT of people are going to rue their vote for Obambi...

439 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:25:26am

Here is a picture of what we found after the water started receding after hurricane Ike. There were 500 head of cattle there before the storm, we have located less then 100 alive. I'll post a few more pictures when I get more time.

440 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:25:40am

re: #435 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

OMD! :-)

Can I call you OMD?

What the heck is SAGGER dance?!

/I've done the STAGGER dance, but I was much younger...

441 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:26:12am

re: #438 littleoldlady

Sharmuta,

I'm guessing that sometime after November 4th but before January 20th Israel will take out Iran's nukes. Regardless of who wins. I don't think she can wait for a new administration to re-work whatever deals she has with Bush.

/and A LOT of people are going to rue their vote for Obambi...

I've been giving that theory some thought and it's interesting.

442 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:27:03am

Now I'm officially outta here. This time for real. The end. Kaput! See y'all later.....

443 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:27:15am

re: #439 Bordm

Good grief! :-(

Did they find all the missing people?

444 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:27:31am

re: #438 littleoldlady

Sharmuta,

I'm guessing that sometime after November 4th but before January 20th Israel will take out Iran's nukes. Regardless of who wins. I don't think she can wait for a new administration to re-work whatever deals she has with Bush.

/and A LOT of people are going to rue their vote for Obambi...

that's only if they're smart enough to do so.......

(which i doubt. %-)

445 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:28:51am

re: #444 redc1c4

that's only if they're smart enough to do so.......

(which i doubt. %-)

Me, too. :-( Especially some Jews I'm related to. :-( :-( :-(

446 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:33:10am

re: #432 Bordm

IBM 5100 in 1980 here, it ran on BASIC. It's the granddaddy of the IBM PC line, as the first consumer IBM PC was the 5150. I worked on all the 5100 series, among many other series.


Remember when IBM first offered a HARD DISK as an option? It stored a whopping 10 megabytes of data, and nobody thought you'd ever fill up that much mass storage. (Actually, that was practically true, because ten million keystrokes was a lot of typing, and that's about all a hard disk stored back then, was characters from typing.) IBM PC with 256K of memory, as I recall, and two 360K floppy disk drives, and a 10MB hard drive, sold for $4,500.

My guru said that when he took computer science in the University of Minnesota in the late 1970's, the professor there insisted that no computer would ever need more than 8K of memory, and at the time he was referring to the large mainframe computer in the college lab.

In 1982 when I upgraded the memory in my Epson QX-10 from 32K to 48K, the 16K memory chip upgrade cost me $170. (Still have the receipt.) The QX used a standard audio cassette tape for mass storage, and took 15-20 minutes to load a program or data file, but only if you had the Volume and Tone controls set just right. Loaded OK just about half of the time.
.

447 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:33:23am

re: #430 Sharmuta

littleoldlady? Have you read this yet? Every person in this country who supports Israel should take this very seriously.

While I don't trust Obama on Israel, reading the full quote I get the impression he's talking about Afghanistan, that he is going to withdraw from Afghanistan.

Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

448 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:33:44am

re: #443 littleoldlady

Good grief! :-(

Did they find all the missing people?

Unfortunately no, many will never be found.

449 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:35:44am

re: #448 Bordm

OY. :-(

450 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:36:37am

re: #440 littleoldlady

OMD! :-)

Can I call you OMD?

What the heck is SAGGER dance?!

/I've done the STAGGER dance, but I was much younger...

if you're gonna call himOMD, that's fine but a Sagger dance is something else entirely........

/white smoke

451 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:38:24am

re: #447 Spirit93

Between Biden and Jackson, I'd say Israel is going under the bus. Talking about Pakistan... false flag so as to not worry the Jewish democrats.

452 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:38:37am

re: #446 Tamron

Remember when IBM first offered a HARD DISK as an option? It stored a whopping 10 megabytes of data, and nobody thought you'd ever fill up that much mass storage. (Actually, that was practically true, because ten million keystrokes was a lot of typing, and that's about all a hard disk stored back then, was characters from typing.) IBM PC with 256K of memory, as I recall, and two 360K floppy disk drives, and a 10MB hard drive, sold for $4,500.

My guru said that when he took computer science in the University of Minnesota in the late 1970's, the professor there insisted that no computer would ever need more than 8K of memory, and at the time he was referring to the large mainframe computer in the college lab.

In 1982 when I upgraded the memory in my Epson QX-10 from 32K to 48K, the 16K memory chip upgrade cost me $170. (Still have the receipt.) The QX used a standard audio cassette tape for mass storage, and took 15-20 minutes to load a program or data file, but only if you had the Volume and Tone controls set just right. Loaded OK just about half of the time.
.

I recall those days well, I laugh when people complain about their bloated modern OS taking 3 minutes to load today. Working on computers back then taught you patience.

453 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:40:50am

lol, I just found my copy w/ manual of SpinRite II ver 1.1

454 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:42:01am

re: #447 Spirit93

somebody needs to tell that moron, preferably with a tanker's bar, that they are *not* kids.

and then place 4 thermite grenades on the resulting miasma, so that we don't violate HAZMAT rules.

455 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:42:27am

re: #453 Bordm

lol, I just found my copy w/ manual of SpinRite II ver 1.1

Now you can reset the interleave on you MFM drive!

456 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:43:38am

re: #455 Spirit93

Now you can reset the interleave on you MFM drive!

Oh, I always run them at 1:1.

457 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:44:01am

re: #450 redc1c4

You BETTER hide behind that smoke, buster!

/you made me look it up
//amen't I sorry!

458 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:49:02am

re: #455 Spirit93

Now you can reset the interleave on you MFM drive!

Laugh if you will, but I'll bet if I go digging through my piles of old computers I've got at least 1 or 2 MFM drives in there somewhere. I know there is at least one modified "luggable" stacked in one of those closets.

459 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:49:12am

re: #452 Bordm

I recall those days well, I laugh when people complain about their bloated modern OS taking 3 minutes to load today. Working on computers back then taught you patience.


Hell, even 10 years ago with PhotoShop, just to resize a 30MB file took long enough to go have a smoke break. Now it's about 10 seconds for the same thing.

Have you used the Command Line Here feature from PowerToys?
.

460 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:50:44am

re: #447 Spirit93


re: #446 Tamron

Remember when IBM first offered a HARD DISK as an option? It stored a whopping 10 megabytes of data, and nobody thought you'd ever fill up that much mass storage. (Actually, that was practically true, because ten million keystrokes was a lot of typing, and that's about all a hard disk stored back then, was characters from typing.) IBM PC with 256K of memory, as I recall, and two 360K floppy disk drives, and a 10MB hard drive, sold for $4,500.

My guru said that when he took computer science in the University of Minnesota in the late 1970's, the professor there insisted that no computer would ever need more than 8K of memory, and at the time he was referring to the large mainframe computer in the college lab.

In 1982 when I upgraded the memory in my Epson QX-10 from 32K to 48K, the 16K memory chip upgrade cost me $170. (Still have the receipt.) The QX used a standard audio cassette tape for mass storage, and took 15-20 minutes to load a program or data file, but only if you had the Volume and Tone controls set just right. Loaded OK just about half of the time.
.

Like the guy in the 1880's head of the patent office who said everything had been invented that was going to be invented.

461 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:51:12am

re: #458 Bordm

Laugh if you will, but I'll bet if I go digging through my piles of old computers I've got at least 1 or 2 MFM drives in there somewhere. I know there is at least one modified "luggable" stacked in one of those closets.

lol
Me too!

462 Jimmah  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:51:44am

re: #451 Sharmuta

Between Biden and Jackson, I'd say Israel is going under the bus. Talking about Pakistan... false flag so as to not worry the Jewish democrats.

I honestly think that he's talking about the inevitable moonbat mass head-pop that's going to happen as soon as they have to start making real world decisions in the war on terror instead of spouting feel-good rhetoric. Whatever one's thoughts on Obama, there is no way he is going to be anything like enough of a left-wing appeasenik as the more moonbat elements of his support will require.

463 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:52:29am

re: #459 Tamron

Hell, even 10 years ago with PhotoShop, just to resize a 30MB file took long enough to go have a smoke break. Now it's about 10 seconds for the same thing.

Have you used the Command Line Here feature from PowerToys?
.

Nah, I just open the "cmd" (DOS) window and go from there.

464 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:54:55am

re: #463 Bordm

Nah, I just open the "cmd" (DOS) window and go from there.

I have a shortcut for the command processor in the Quick Launch. It's very useful to set up a CHKDSK/F in a hurry.

465 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:55:04am

re: #457 littleoldlady

You BETTER hide behind that smoke, buster!

/you made me look it up
//amen't I sorry!

ummm.... you may have found a bad definition.....

"Sagger Dance" is a term of operational art for armor/mech forces... i'll find you a good link, but until then: white smoke!

466 Bordm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:56:49am

G'nite folks it's 5 am here and I need a couple hours of sleep.

467 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:57:52am

re: #466 Bordm

weet dreams Bordm

468 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:58:42am

re: #465 redc1c4

Yeah, well there's another meaning that's evidently so bad the YouTube videos are there but not allowed to be opened.

'Night Bordm! :-)

Don't be a stranger, y'hear?

469 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:59:45am

re: #464 Moe Katz

I have a shortcut for the command processor in the Quick Launch. It's very useful to set up a CHKDSK/F in a hurry.

Wow, come to think of it I used to have to use CHKDSK and/or Norton Disk Doctor's format-refresh feature every few months, and now I haven't had an HD problem like that for about 10 years or so.

Takes the fun out of it, now that they're so darn reliable....
.

470 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:59:46am
471 Tamron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:02:25am

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

472 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:03:46am
473 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:04:10am

ploooooooomie! :-)

474 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:06:01am

re: #468 littleoldlady

Yeah, well there's another meaning that's evidently so bad the YouTube videos are there but not allowed to be opened.

'Night Bordm! :-)

Don't be a stranger, y'hear?

if he's not a stranger, how's he gonna fit in on the LNDT?

/white smoke

(my word on the Sagger Dance issue....or you can contact my 6 element.%-)

/ultimate proof.

475 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:07:17am

re: #471 Tamron

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

wait'll that simulator goes off outside the hooch.....

%-)

476 godfrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:07:36am

I've been away. Is the election over yet? Is Obama gone?

477 godfrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:08:29am

(googling)

Darnit.

478 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:11:24am

Morning all. How did we get into tech talk?
Hi Littleoldlady!
Godfrey, how is the running? I've got Marine corps marathon this Sunday.

479 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:11:56am

Obama is still here and he is watching you.
I love Big Brother!

480 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:13:15am

godfrey! :-)

Welcome back!

/although I don't know WHY you'd want to talk to the likes of me...bitter, clinging to guns and bibles, racist, redneck and a cracker.
//Yeah, I'm a proud Pennsylvanian! ;-)

I saw your movie a couple of weeks ago.

481 shiplord kirel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:13:19am

re: #462 Jimmah

I honestly think that he's talking about the inevitable moonbat mass head-pop that's going to happen as soon as they have to start making real world decisions in the war on terror instead of spouting feel-good rhetoric. Whatever one's thoughts on Obama, there is no way he is going to be anything like enough of a left-wing appeasenik as the more moonbat elements of his support will require.

Excellent point, and something to which we will soon have to give some thought. The far left and the America-hating global media-masses may be very disappointed with President Obama, at least initially. A few months from now, we could be talking about ODS, Obama Derangement Syndrome. Just how he will respond is an open question. Will he defy it and move to the center, or will he cave to it in an effort to regain the media and foreign approval that have played such a large role in his campaign? Given his past associations, I am not optimistic.

482 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:14:01am

{My Rove!} :-)

It's Geek to Me!

483 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:16:31am

Littleoldlady, why are you feeling beat up? You're in the non racist, non redneck part of PA aren't you?

484 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:18:02am

re: #481 shiplord kirel

shiplord! :-)

I'm having this argument with my brother. He insists that Obama with shift to the center in order to get reelected in 4 years. I tell him that he's so far left he'd need GPS to FIND the center.

/I probably could sell my brother ocean front property in Kansas City...

485 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:18:54am

re: #483 Jim in Virginia

Littleoldlady, why are you feeling beat up? You're in the non racist, non redneck part of PA aren't you?

The cracker part?

/I think. I'm waiting for the next hit to see where I fit in...

486 shiplord kirel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:24:31am

re: #484 littleoldlady

shiplord! :-)

I'm having this argument with my brother. He insists that Obama with shift to the center in order to get reelected in 4 years. I tell him that he's so far left he'd need GPS to FIND the center.

/I probably could sell my brother ocean front property in Kansas City...

If Obama does what he says he will do (no Iraqi Dunkirk, continue the fight in Afghanistan, support Israel, etc.), the left will hate him. The "left" as we know it today is not the relatively responsible left of Robert LaFollette or Henry Wallace; it is the pop-left culture and lifestyle of the Mennonite Central Committee and Robert Fisk and Ted Rall, and Che t-shirts. They will accept nothing less from the United States than abject submission and dismemberment. They strive for it as some strive for virtue. To them, a vast body of mobilized and formalized neuroses, it IS virtue.

487 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:26:19am

re: #484 littleoldlady

shiplord! :-)
He insists that Obama with shift to the center in order to get reelected in 4 years.

/I probably could sell my brother ocean front property in Kansas City...

Good morning littleoldlady. Why doesn't he just vote for McCain, someone who declares he will be in the center and has a track record of doing so?

488 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:27:05am

I had a fantasy look into the future while I was in the shower just now. It was the evening of November 4th, around 11pm Pacific Time. All of a sudden I erupt and yell in celebratory fashion. Hopefully this comes to fruition.

Then I realized that November 4th is still 13 days away. This things needs to come and pass, and quick!

489 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:28:31am

Good morning, Lizards.

490 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:29:26am

re: #484 littleoldlady

shiplord! :-)

I'm having this argument with my brother. He insists that Obama with shift to the center in order to get reelected in 4 years. I tell him that he's so far left he'd need GPS to FIND the center.

/I probably could sell my brother ocean front property in Kansas City...

So his reason for voting for Obama is that he thinks he's a liar.

Great.

491 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:30:55am

re: #486 shiplord kirel

SAYS? Which time, and to which audience?

The only thing I haven't heard yet out of Obama is "a chicken in every pot!", and since there's two more weeks to go I expect that'll come up any day now.

re: #487 NC State of Mind

NC State of Mind! :-)

Um...because he lives in Manhattan?

492 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:32:09am

re: #490 Spirit93

Spirit93! :-)

Willing suspension of disbelief.

/or something like that...

493 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:34:45am

re: #490 Spirit93

On the other hand, voting for him because he thinks he will move to the center has got to be better than all these people who support him because they think he'll implement all the crap that spews from his mouth.

494 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:37:06am

CNN analyst calls Rush a fat idiot.

He doesn't look like a spring chicken himself.

CAMPBELL BROWN: Roland, Rush Limbaugh said today, this is about race. That's all it's about.

ROLAND MARTIN: I think I will quote Al Franken when talking about Rush Limbaugh -- is a stupid, fat idiot.

495 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:38:24am

'Morning, goddess! :-)

/my fellow racist, redneck cracker, bitterly clinging to your guns and bible....

496 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:41:00am

I'm playing around with this site -- 270towin.com

It's an electoral map you can fill in. Man, we have our work cut out.

If Obama wins California, Washington, Oregon, New York, Michigan, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Virginia, DC, Hawaii, Delaware, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Maine

and McCain wins Alaska, Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, New Mexico, Utah, Montana, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Kansas, Dakotas, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Florida, Carolinas, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, New Hampshire, and West Virginia...

That puts Mac at 270 and Obama at 268.

Is this possible? Likely?

497 shiplord kirel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:42:21am

re: #495 littleoldlady

'Morning, goddess! :-)

/my fellow racist, redneck cracker, bitterly clinging to your guns and bible....

First they came for the racists; but I wasn't a racist, so I didn't speak out....
Then they came for the rednecks; but I wasn't a redneck, so I didn't speak out....
Then they came for the crackers; but I wasn't a cracker, so I didn't speak out....
Then they came for the Bible-thumpers; but I wasn't a Bible-thumper, so I didn't speak out......
Then they came for the gun-owners......

......and I shot them.

498 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:42:28am

McCain also gets Tennessee and Wyoming.

499 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:43:00am

re: #497 shiplord kirel

+ + +! :-)

500 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:43:40am

re: #495 littleoldlady

'Morning, goddess! :-)

/my fellow racist, redneck cracker, bitterly clinging to your guns and bible....

Well, the only gun I have is my son's paintball gun--can that count? :)

{littleoldlady}

501 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:43:57am

re: #497 shiplord kirel

First they came for the racists; but I wasn't a racist, so I didn't speak out....
Then they came for the rednecks; but I wasn't a redneck, so I didn't speak out....
Then they came for the crackers; but I wasn't a cracker, so I didn't speak out....
Then they came for the Bible-thumpers; but I wasn't a Bible-thumper, so I didn't speak out......
Then they came for the gun-owners......

......and I shot them.

LOL!

502 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:44:04am
503 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:45:18am

I don't like that Mac is down 8 and ~5 1/2 in Va and Co, respectively. That is his biggest hurdle, IMO. Why the hell aren't Pennsylvannians(sp?) changing their minds on account of all the nonsense coming from the Dems? That would be huge if that state could swing.

I never thought I'd see NC be a swing state in '08, but after hearing and reading all the entitlements handouts promised by Obama at a rally this weekend, it became crystal clear.

504 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:45:42am

re: #502 ploome hineni

{LoL}

where did godfrey go?

He was away. He came back. Googled the current state of the election. Currently being treated for shock...

;-)

505 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:46:00am
506 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:46:35am
507 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:48:10am

'Bye, ploome.

508 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:49:55am

I would do anything for Pennsylvania to flip.

509 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:52:02am

re: #508 TheMatrix31

I would do anything for Pennsylvania to flip.

Maybe it will. Hard to tell what crazy rednecks will do. ;)

510 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:52:30am

re: #496 TheMatrix31
Hedging my bets, I think it is much more likely Barry gets 300 or 310 electoral votes, or McCain gets 280- 290.
But hey, anything is possible.
Goddess! Good morning to you sweetie.
Ive seen several oversize (4 x 6) yard signs sprouting lately: "Vote for Change" (change in huge type), and in smaller letters below , barackobama.com
We're voting for a website?
There is something very disturbing about that sign. I figure the living rooms of these houses have Che posters.

511 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:55:24am

re: #509 NC State of Mind

Maybe it will. Hard to tell what crazy rednecks will do. ;)

Looking at those maps just depressed the shit out of me.

512 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:55:27am

re: #510 Jim in Virginia

{Jim in Virginia}

It's bad enough when a trusting (gullible?) voter is deceived by a slick, dishonest politician, but when the facts about a candidate's corruption are OUT THERE (not widely, admittedly), it's exasperating.

513 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:55:46am

re: #503 NC State of Mind

Tell you the truth, I can't tell WHAT is going on here. The election is going to come down (as it always does in PA) to the 4 counties surrounding Philadelphia. Based upon my empirical survey of lawn signs, there's a lot more McCain signs around here than there was Kerry signs last election. (Kerry took PA by 2.5% in 2004.) Truthfully, there's a lot fewer lawn signs of any kind this time.

The Inquirer made a big deal about Democrats signing up tons of new voters this year. On the other hand I personally know of some Republicans who switched to partake in Operation Chaos. (Hillary won by 10%.)

It's a HECK of a lot closer than the 11% they're giving Obama. I CAN tell you that!

514 yesandno  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:57:08am

Off to see Senators Richard Burr and Lindsey Graham this morning..early. Will let you know how it goes! See if it is more inspiring then the Great 0's rally a couple of weeks ago (no doubt it will).

Go McCain/Palin!

515 SouthAmericanWay  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:58:43am

Roberto Unger, Harvard Law professor (and a former professor of Barack Obama) and minister in the current Brazilian administration, was interviewed today by Argentinian newspaper La Nacion, and declared:

"He [Obama] is more progressive than what he shows himself to be."

Tremble, America!... "Progress" is coming...

516 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:58:45am

Just a driveby to see if Old Joe Plugs has released any more state secrets?

Are we going to attack Russia?
Iran?

Tell us Joe.
When will Israel attack?

/and if he accidentally becomes president,
Oh Shiite.

517 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:58:48am

Have a great day, Lizards!

518 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:00:42am

re: #511 TheMatrix31

Yeah, RCP has Mcain just 15 votes ahead of Bob Freakin' Dole's abysmal tally. Where is Sharmuta to tell us all is going to be ok and to have more faith?

519 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:06:10am

re: #515 SouthAmericanWay

Roberto Unger, Harvard Law professor (and a former professor of Barack Obama) and minister in the current Brazilian administration, was interviewed today by Argentinian newspaper La Nacion, and declared:

"He [Obama] is more progressive than what he shows himself to be."

Tremble, America!... "Progress" is coming...

Democrats are too embarrassed to use the word liberal because it reminds us of Jimmy Carter and his disasterous policies: 21% interest rates, massive gass shortages, our embassy staff held hostage for more than a year becasue he was so weak on foreign policy- it was a nightmare.

So now they call those same policies - progressive - it's Orwellian - nothing more.

520 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:06:56am

re: #518 NC State of Mind

Wait. Maybe the Democrats will figure out another yet way to insult Pennsylvanians today and the tide will turn.

521 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:07:47am

What's gonna be worse than a possible Obama Presidency is all the moron Obama supporters coming out and celebrating and shoving it in people's faces. Ugh.

522 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:08:36am

Not to mention the same people like the palestinians who were cheering on 911, will be cheering if Obama wins.

523 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:14:39am

Was one single question asked during the debates about illegal immigration. DistantThunder's mention of Orwellian made me think about Obama supporting driver's licenses for illegals in the primaries and the fact that it has not been mentioned since. That was an immensely unpopular position so it was buried deep.

524 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:15:36am

re: #521 TheMatrix31

No- the worst part is going to be waiting for the international crisis we've been promised and then waiting for the socialism we've been promised.

525 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:17:03am

re: #520 littleoldlady

Wait. Maybe the Democrats will figure out another yet way to insult Pennsylvanians today and the tide will turn.

morning lol

Lets see,
Racists, Rednecks,
Uhh-
hey Murtha,
mention they lost work because they might be lazy.

How could anyone except Acorn vote for that stupid cabbage head?

526 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:17:19am
527 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:20:17am

re: #525 ibmkeyboard

ibm! :-)

Looking for the Philadelphia Daily News columnist who suggested that McCain was going after the "cracker vote".

/Sharmuta probably has the link handy...

528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:20:17am

Woke up really sick this morning...feeling icky.

Anybody got something for a fever that is not "more cowbell"?

529 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:21:28am

I'm going to take a box of Ritz when I go to the polls and make pretend I'm at a performance of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

/voting as art

530 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:22:14am

re: #527 littleoldlady

[Link: www.philly.com...]

Crackers are a good thing.

531 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:23:03am

re: #508 TheMatrix31

I would do anything for Pennsylvania to flip.

no problem i'm doing everything i can to insure that in fact i know plenty of lifelong dems that will be voting repub for the first time

532 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:24:29am

re: #527 littleoldlady

And added to the spinoffs just for you.... and whoever else clicks it.

533 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:24:36am

re: #530 Sharmuta

Thanks U. :-)

534 3 wood  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:24:45am

Good Morning.

The market will open lower this morning due to negative futures numbers from overnight activity. This is based on generally poor performance numbers being reported by various companies.

But the credit markets are starting to thaw out, so there is some positive out there.

535 3 wood  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:25:46am

re: #528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody got something for a fever that is not "more cowbell"?

1. Asprin
2. Sleep

536 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:26:03am

re: #530 Sharmuta

Wow. I just asked in 518 when you would be here to instill confidence in your fellow Lizards. TM31 and I were a little down after looking at the electoral maps.

537 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:26:42am

re: #533 littleoldlady

Hey- after all the Fruitcup you give, it's the least I can do {lol}.

538 Bobibutu  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:27:33am

re: #528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Woke up really sick this morning...feeling icky.

Anybody got something for a fever that is not "more cowbell"?

[Link: www.mothernature.com...]

Check this out.

539 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:27:59am
540 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:28:04am

re: #523 NC State of Mind

Was one single question asked during the debates about illegal immigration. DistantThunder's mention of Orwellian made me think about Obama supporting driver's licenses for illegals in the primaries and the fact that it has not been mentioned since. That was an immensely unpopular position so it was buried deep.

The RNC has an ad out about it running it in battleground states.

541 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:29:31am

re: #527 littleoldlady

ibm! :-)

Looking for the Philadelphia Daily News columnist who suggested that McCain was going after the "cracker vote".

/Sharmuta probably has the link handy...

He will next be writing about Obama going after the Homey G vote. (And getting 97% of it.)

542 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:31:49am

re: #536 NC State of Mind

DO NOT DESPAIR!

Turns out this is the most accurate poll the last 4 elections. Look at that beautiful trend line!

Also- Zogby has some new numbers that the PUMAs broke down- not looking bad- take a look.

Then there's 0bama heading to Hawaii, leaving the campaign in the hands of the Gaffmeister and who else? The Clintons?! The msm? Buck up, soldier!

543 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:32:05am
544 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:32:07am

Hiya 3wood! :-)

Finally got my husband's 401K statement yesterday and after taking a few Advil and praying for 15 minutes I opened it to find it had only lost about 10%.

Weird thing is, the funds designated "high risk" went UP, while the "low risk" stuff took a real hit.

545 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:32:27am

Dick Morris says the elctoral mapis looking good. The internal poll numbers for McCain are looking good. Obama campaign accidentally or released internal polls from their campaign and Obama is up by 2% in PA.

The news media polls are sepcificallyd esigned to demoralize us - proof being that PUMA supporter was polled - and they asked her specific policy quesitons like:

Are you for lower taxes (yes), are you for getting out troops out of Iraq when realistically possible ( yes) - pollster said he was putting her down as an obama supporter because her answers track with Obama's positions.

When she argued with him, he said he's have to check with his supervisor to see if he could put her down as a McCain supporter even though she was telling him - I am NOT an Obama supporter. I think McCain will lower taxes Not Obama etc.

546 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:32:50am

re: #539 taxfreekiller

How does someone get this close to Cheney that we do not want this close to Cheney?

547 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:33:20am

re: #542 Sharmuta

DO NOT DESPAIR!

Turns out this is the most accurate poll the last 4 elections. Look at that beautiful trend line!

Also- Zogby has some new numbers that the PUMAs broke down- not looking bad- take a look.

Then there's 0bama heading to Hawaii, leaving the campaign in the hands of the Gaffmeister and who else? The Clintons?! The msm? Buck up, soldier!

Where is Bill anyway? Bill?

548 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:36:13am

Karl Rove was totally cool when the wack-job moonbat tried to arrest him while he was sitting on stage. They hauled her rear away. It could have been a very dangerous situation.

549 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:36:15am
550 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:36:49am

re: #542 Sharmuta

DO NOT DESPAIR!

Turns out this is the most accurate poll the last 4 elections. Look at that beautiful trend line!

Also- Zogby has some new numbers that the PUMAs broke down- not looking bad- take a look.

Then there's 0bama heading to Hawaii, leaving the campaign in the hands of the Gaffmeister and who else? The Clintons?! The msm? Buck up, soldier!


Don't forget about Michelle. I hear she'll be campaigning in Florida today.

and when will we be learning about all about her foibles in the NYT? hmm

551 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:36:50am

re: #542 Sharmuta

THANKS!

552 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:36:57am

Tigerhawk notes that overnight the euro is down 2% against the dollar.
Time to book a flight across the pond.... if Barry and plugs win, I'm moving to Italy!

553 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:38:14am
554 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:39:20am
ELECTION REJECTION: NETWORK NEWS SLUMPS; VIEWER SHIP FADES
Wed Oct 22 2008 07:25:40 ET
The Obama-McCain match-up is proving to be a lackluster election ticket for the Big 3 network news programs, according to NIELSEN MEDIA RESEARCH.
As the shouting from the trail and the frantic spinning from the anchor desks intensify, the audience is voting with their remotes.
All 3 evening news shows experienced audience drops year-to-year for the week of Oct. 13-19, 2008.
CBSNEWS w/ Couric shed a half a million viewers, falling from 6.4 million to 5.9 million; ABCNEWS dropped from 8.1 million to 7.6 million; NBCNEWS slumped from 8.2 million to 7.8 million.


We can see through you like looking through Saran Wrap.

People are smart enough to know when they are lying to them across a crowded room.

555 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:40:56am

re: #554 ibmkeyboard

We can see through you like looking through Saran Wrap.

People are smart enough to know when they are lying to them across a crowded room.

Katie Couric is like a talking corpse - no life - no radiance - no curiosity

556 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:41:26am

re: #553 taxfreekiller

Hillbuzz had a great take on that too. They think that Powell was the last trump card 0bama had (besides the constant calls of racism). He had to take the spotlight off Joe the Plumber, so he whipped out Colin Powell. Makes sense to me.

557 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:42:02am

John Bolton on Fox.

Brian Kilmeade "Mr Ambassador, take me inside the mind of Joe Biden"

Bolton: big burst of laughter.

558 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:42:12am

re: #554 ibmkeyboard

Got linkie? I need it. :-)

559 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:42:15am

re: #551 NC State of Mind

You're welcome!

560 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:42:38am

I cannot stand to listen to campbell brown and her lisp.

I thought I was imagining it sO I googled it and got 10,100 hits.

561 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:43:36am

Karl Rove planted Joe Biden to sabotage the Obama candidacy. Biden was the manchurian candidate.

562 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:44:15am

re: #549 Sharmuta

Hillbuzz also had a great analysis of the Nickelodeon Kid's Poll.

LOL!

563 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:44:29am

re: #558 littleoldlady

Got linkie? I need it. :-)

Drudge

564 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:44:47am

re: #557 alien_mind

John Bolton on Fox.

Brian Kilmeade "Mr Ambassador, take me inside the mind of Joe Biden"

Bolton: big burst of laughter.

Bolton: "Biden says Obama has a spine of steel. What, did he have some hard exams at Harvard?"

lol

565 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:45:32am

re: #562 MandyManners

You should see their other pictures when the racism card gets played.

566 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:45:45am
567 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:47:45am

I imagine Mandy's now looking around Hillbuzz and might not be back for a little while....

568 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:47:52am

So there's a new MSM poll out today saying that 1/3 of respondents feel Sarah is a detriment to the campaign (while 50+% of them claimed they were going to vote for the 0, anyway). And everywhere else it's polls-say-this and we-endorse-Him, all coming from newspapers. Meanwhile, people are fretting about the election being stolen by voter fraud and the like. Excuse me, but haven't we been saying for years that the MSM were smiling, lying bastards, at best? And that newspapers were an insult to a bird's butt? And don't we spit in the faces of criminals and tell them to bring their best 'cause we're busy? Call me crazy, but I think it's time for a morning attitude check and some slightly stronger coffee, because I feel fine.

569 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:48:44am

re: #564 alien_mind

Bolton: "Biden says Obama has a spine of steel. What, did he have some hard exams at Harvard?"

lol

I agree. Obama is humorless and inflexible. Probably unadaptable, too.

Perfect for the Presidency.

/NOT.

570 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:48:45am

re: #566 taxfreekiller

New Flash,

NBC news producer seen in William Ayers alley, in the trash can, upon investigation, facts were that the producer was laid off months ago and was hungry. In a after action report the former producer said, her boss said they no longer need her, that Obama e-mail the news and NBC in fact has no producers any longer.

Trash was gone.

?

571 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:49:25am

re: #556 Sharmuta
You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to throw 'em. If Powell was his ace in the hole, well...

Yore: #561 DistantThunder

Karl Rove planted Joe Biden to sabotage the Obama candidacy. Biden was the manchurian candidate.

And Powell questioned McCain's choice? Joe is the gift that keeps on giving.

572 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:50:28am

re: #546 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

How does someone get this close to Cheney that we do not want this close to Cheney?

Oh. Rove. Told you I was sick. Duh.

573 Florida Lady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:50:57am

re: #285 Edgar

I couldn't care less about Obama's gaffes, personally. He speaks well for the most part. But when he acts, it's a different story.

I can't stand listening to him. I don't think he's a good speaker.

574 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:51:50am
575 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:52:27am

re: #573 Florida Lady

I can't stand listening to him. I don't think he's a good speaker.

He has no sense of humor

576 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:52:57am

That's it. I'm out. Baby needs shoes.

/or something like that...

Good day, ALL!™

577 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:53:35am

What the hell? You guys are being way to hard on Biden. I think he's doing pretty damn well, after all he's just a simple minded Pennsylvania redneck!

/I'm in way too good of a mood today

578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:56:25am

Speaking of Messiah...seen the headline photo on Drudge?

"Perhaps if I can touch his garment...."

579 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:56:48am

Who's the bald guy on Fox?

580 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:57:02am
581 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:57:29am

GOP just ran the "This chair" ad. It is chilling.

582 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:57:29am

Naomi Wolf is an incredibly arrogant asshole. She's trying to preach to Gretchen.

583 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:58:16am

MandyManners...... check your email!

584 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:58:18am

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Messiah...seen the headline photo on Drudge?

"Perhaps if I can touch his garment...."

No joke: The write-up in the paper Monday about Sunday's Obama rally-

People were esctatic to touch his hand.

585 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:58:34am

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Messiah...seen the headline photo on Drudge?

"Perhaps if I can touch his garment...."

Very creepy - Puma's and republicans are fired up to vote. Taking 2 days to go to Hawaii - it seems improbable that he will sit at this grandmother's bedside for 2 whole days. Look how inattentative he is to his brother.

586 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:59:43am

re: #584 NC State of Mind

No joke: The write-up in the paper Monday about Sunday's Obama rally-

People were esctatic to touch his hand.

Obama should go back home to Chicago and become the patron saint of the Massive Chicago Miracle Clean-up and report back to us in 4 years.

If he can make it there, he can make it anywhere.

587 onag  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:59:57am

walter: i'm stayin. i'm finishin my coffee. enjoyin my coffee.

588 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:00:07am

re: #583 Sharmuta

MandyManners...... check your email!

Oh, me. Oh, my.

589 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:00:27am

re: #585 DistantThunder

It's been noted here how Michelle and the girls are not at Grandma's bedside.

590 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:00:39am

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Scroll down a tad.

591 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:00:40am

re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Speaking of Messiah...seen the headline photo on Drudge?

"Perhaps if I can touch his garment...."

"I HAVE BEEN HEALED"

*throws away wheel chair and kidney bag*

592 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:01:09am

Am I wrong for wanting to leave Grandma out of it?

593 Scion9  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:02:02am

re: #579 MandyManners

Who's the bald guy on Fox?

Naomi Wolf? I'm pretty sure that's her real hair.

594 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:02:19am

re: #592 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Am I wrong for wanting to leave Grandma out of it?

He's backing the bus up over grandma. Ka-thunk.
Now forward again..ka-bump.

595 Florida Lady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:02:35am

re: #575 DistantThunder

He has no sense of humor


People say he's inspiring. What does he he inspire? He doesn't make me want to go out and work harder, because he'll tax the hell out of me if I turn too much of a profit in my business. He doesn't inspire to be proud of this country, because he is so obviously not.

I've yet to get inspired, other than to turn off the sound when I hear him.

596 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:03:22am

re: #575 DistantThunder

He has no sense of humor

Maybe, but he's funny as hell!

597 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:04:49am

I'm reading an old book called Manipulation of the Mind. Describes the appeal of cults and how they prey on people through hope, and a sense of belonging. Neither of which is bad, except they can't deliver on what they promise - and the predators know that while they are reeling in their victims.

Ayers, Obama, Pelosi = Political Predators

598 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:06:23am

re: #593 Scion9

Naomi Wolf? I'm pretty sure that's her real hair.

LOL! No. The guy sitting next to Al.

599 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:06:44am

re: #589 Rancher

It's been noted here how Michelle and the girls are not at Grandma's bedside.

Let me guess that Michelle has mother-in-law issues.

600 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:07:11am

re: #590 MandyManners

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Scroll down a tad.

/my picture on hillbuzz.

*blushing*

601 Scion9  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:07:17am
602 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:07:47am

Is it Michael Smerconish - he's a loud philadelphia lawyer who has just come out for obama - supposedly a republican - but very much a RINO has a talk show before Beck and Rush

603 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:08:56am

Someone at Fox has been digging up ACORNS.

604 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:09:49am

re: #600 ibmkeyboard

/my picture on hillbuzz.

*blushing*

You always seemed like a boxer guy to me.

605 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:10:24am

re: #602 DistantThunder

He's no shrinking violet!

606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:10:44am

re: #602 DistantThunder

Fills in for O'Reilly all of the time on the radio. On Bills show, he sounds all "conservy dervy". So, he's been faking it, huh.

Someone warned me about him. Said his Philly radio show is liberal.

607 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:10:48am

Is BHO's grandmother sick or not?

608 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:11:34am

re: #604 MandyManners

You always seemed like a boxer guy to me.

ha.

my long johns this morning.
31 degrees

609 wintercat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:12:07am

For years many American's have sat passively by while their morals and values have been eroded by popular culture. They might complain but on Friday and Saturday night they pour their dollars back into the system that corrupts their kids and weakens their own character. American's see themselves portrayed as stupid, fat, and ugly and they chuckle right along with the laugh tracks.

How many people dislike what Matt Damon says but can't wait for his next action flick so they can fill up on popcorn and fill up his wallet? Or Sean Penn? Or Danny Glover? Or ____ (insert any Hollywood actor who says they hate America here).

The only way to turn this back is to shut off the money stream. That means you have to give something up. If you don't like someone's politics, don't give them your money. I think it is pretty straight forward.

Most people have taken their freedom for granted. There is a war on and sadly, many people didn't hear the drumbeat because Sex in the City was on.

610 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:13:32am

Good morning Lizards......

611 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:13:34am

re: #608 ibmkeyboard

ha.

my long johns this morning.
31 degrees

I dug my silks out this weekend. No need yet but, it's coming.

612 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:15:02am

re: #609 wintercat

I've boycotted the theater since 1986. The only times I've broken that was to take The Kid to see TMNT and the movie about the chihuahua in Hollywood.

613 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:15:16am

re: #601 Scion9

An interesting book on the subject.

Did you see the article on NLP the other day?

614 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:17:50am

re: #606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fills in for O'Reilly all of the time on the radio. On Bills show, he sounds all "conservy dervy". So, he's been faking it, huh.

Someone warned me about him. Said his Philly radio show is liberal.

he's one of these east coast - you know what's - who's irreverent and smarmy - not my kind of guy.

615 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:18:28am

re: #609 wintercat

Wow. Who is that? Carrie A. Nation?

616 The Dude  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:19:06am

I had my very own thread? I totally abide.

8^)

617 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:19:13am

re: #609 wintercat

For years many American's have sat passively by while their morals and values have been eroded by popular culture. They might complain but on Friday and Saturday night they pour their dollars back into the system that corrupts their kids and weakens their own character. American's see themselves portrayed as stupid, fat, and ugly and they chuckle right along with the laugh tracks.

How many people dislike what Matt Damon says but can't wait for his next action flick so they can fill up on popcorn and fill up his wallet? Or Sean Penn? Or Danny Glover? Or ____ (insert any Hollywood actor who says they hate America here).

The only way to turn this back is to shut off the money stream. That means you have to give something up. If you don't like someone's politics, don't give them your money. I think it is pretty straight forward.

Most people have taken their freedom for granted. There is a war on and sadly, many people didn't hear the drumbeat because Sex in the City was on.

Amen. Amen. We have cancelled out cable and we DO NOT go to movies other than American Carol and others that promote Christian values like Lion Witch and the Wardrobe.

618 wintercat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:19:22am

re: #612 MandyManners

I haven't had t.v. since the '80s. We download shows we want to watch and then that is not that often. I know my post was somewhat OT but I think pop culture has contributed (and not in a good way) to our current state. As parents, we have allowed our kids to become mezmerized by the video games, t.v. and movies, etc. They don't know how to think. How can we expect them to reason?

619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:19:51am

I drink and go to movies.

620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:20:50am

re: #616 The Dude

Totally.

621 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:21:03am

re: #618 wintercat

I haven't had t.v. since the '80s. We download shows we want to watch and then that is not that often. I know my post was somewhat OT but I think pop culture has contributed (and not in a good way) to our current state. As parents, we have allowed our kids to become mezmerized by the video games, t.v. and movies, etc. They don't know how to think. How can we expect them to reason?

I've not gone so far as to ditch the tube but, I agree with everything you've posted.

622 wintercat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:21:25am

re: #618 wintercat


mesmerized. PIMF

Sometimes I find that my fingers are not listening to my brain...

623 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:21:29am

re: #619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I drink and go to movies.

Dangerous!

624 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:21:36am

bbl

625 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:22:17am

re: #618 wintercat

I haven't had t.v. since the '80s. We download shows we want to watch and then that is not that often. I know my post was somewhat OT but I think pop culture has contributed (and not in a good way) to our current state. As parents, we have allowed our kids to become mezmerized by the video games, t.v. and movies, etc. They don't know how to think. How can we expect them to reason?

My current beef is with obnoxious cartoons and teen sitcoms. Everyone is fighting, arguing and putting each other down, calling each other stupid and worse. it sets a very, very poor example.

My 8 year old found an online game that requires the player to steal treasure from the parents and fight the parents in the game.

626 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:24:17am

no cable, no movies, beer yes

627 Scion9  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:26:26am

re: #613 DistantThunder

Did you see the article on NLP the other day?

Yeah. I'm interested in the subject in general, but you mentioned cults. The process that cults use to indoctrinate their victims in psychology is Thought Reform. The wiki for the book I linked tackles Thought Reform at a nation, political level. It uses early Communist China as its case study, but in reality applies to Marxist philosophy and all of its off-shoots in general.

So, your indictment of the Far Left in America is extremely apt, and has been studied by reputable doctors in the field with the Far Left abroad.

As far as Obama and NLP, I'm not sure that he is conciously doing anything subversive. I think he is simply channeling the stage styles of Jeremiah Wright, which is more suited to the pulpit than the podium. His style is very reminiscant of evangelical revivals, which are designed to appeal to emotion, rather than getting people to think. While he may be able to marshal his voice and body-language so precisely to achieve this, it is more likely it is just his natural inclination to do so by subconsciously mimicking his heroes. Some people are just born to be used car salesmen.
Unfortunately one of them is now running for president.

628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:26:26am

My kids grew up watching TV, going to movies and living normal, un-sheltered /public school lives.

I'll put their thinking/reasoning skills against any other kids their ages.

Environment plays a key factor.

You don't have to shelter them, you have to show them how to absorb and deflect.

Of course, if they end up being axe murderers...boy am I going to be red- faced.

629 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:27:27am

I get this online newsletter from this marketing guy. I enjoy his tone and his attitude: Matt Furey -

Don't Watch The Depression Channel

Turn on the news and begin channel surfing.

Chances are you'll find yourself watching the
Depression Channel. Based on the slant of
what is being said, you'd think the news
casters had a secret pact with pharmaceutical
drug companies.

Getting you into a negative mental state appears
to be their mission. The more that people feel
powerless - the easier to seize control.

Years ago I learned that depression is the
feeling you get when you feel powerless over
your circumstances.

But what would happen if we didn't have the
word depression in our vocabulary. Could
you feel this negative emotion if we didn't have
a word to describe it; a word that paints a mental
picture of this negative mental state.

I've heard there are places on this planet where
people don't see certain colors because those
colors aren't in their vocabulary. Same goes
with words like depression. If no word to describe
it - you cannot have it.

Don't you think it would be "fair" if the news
programs reported on people who are prospering
in these economic times. Wouldn't it be fair if they
did specials each day on the people who are doing
better than ever - despite the so-called recession/
depression.

Fact is that during the Great Depression - many people
became millionaires. We're not hearing about them
now, are we.

I coach several people who are doing better than ever
before in these "times."

I've also watched many people do poorly during the
best economic times. When so many were prospering,
they were floundering.

So it all comes down to this: Which channel are you
tuned into. The "Depression Channel" - or the "Prosperity
in Tough Economic Times" channel.

Can you guess which one I CHOOSE to tune into.

Yes, I realize you're not going to find the Prosperity
Channel on your tee-vee set - but you can create
the channel in your own mind. Your own mind is
not limited to 500, 1,000 or 10,000 channels. It
can tune into or create tens of thousands or hundreds
of thousands of channels. And then some.

After all, who do you think created the ones we have
now. They didn't just show up. People created them
in their own minds first.

You have the ability to do likewise. In private.

Make a choice to relive your greatest financial successes -
to create more of them. Make a choice to read about and
study the lives of those who did well when times were
toughest. Doing so will plant the seed that YOU can do
likewise.

630 The Dude  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:27:33am
I drink and go to movies.

I find myself craving a White Russian (at 7:26 CST) and yet another viewing of... well... I'm sure you can guess which movie.

631 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:29:03am

re: #627 Scion9

Yeah. I'm interested in the subject in general, but you mentioned cults. The process that cults use to indoctrinate their victims in psychology is Thought Reform. The wiki for the book I linked tackles Thought Reform at a nation, political level. It uses early Communist China as its case study, but in reality applies to Marxist philosophy and all of its off-shoots in general.

So, your indictment of the Far Left in America is extremely apt, and has been studied by reputable doctors in the field with the Far Left abroad.

As far as Obama and NLP, I'm not sure that he is conciously doing anything subversive. I think he is simply channeling the stage styles of Jeremiah Wright, which is more suited to the pulpit than the podium. His style is very reminiscant of evangelical revivals, which are designed to appeal to emotion, rather than getting people to think. While he may be able to marshal his voice and body-language so precisely to achieve this, it is more likely it is just his natural inclination to do so by subconsciously mimicking his heroes. Some people are just born to be used car salesmen.
Unfortunately one of them is now running for president.

Except that Obama would have speaking/debate coaches - we know he does - so why wouldn't all these extreme left friends of his be dialed into these practices?

632 Lince  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:29:06am
633 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:29:20am

Posted this at 4am...but worth a repeat...this is for you "Dude"!

The Big Lebowski: What makes a man, Mr. Lebowski?
The Dude: Dude.
The Big Lebowski: Huh?
The Dude: Uhh... I don't know sir.
The Big Lebowski: Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost? Isn't that what makes a man?
The Dude: Hmmm... Sure, that and a pair of testicles.

634 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:30:34am

re: #618 wintercat

They don't know how to think. How can we expect them to reason?

Reminds me of Jorline's (i think) profile quote. He who know how will always have a job, he who knows why will always be the boss. I love that.

God knows we aren't teaching kids to know how much less the critical thining that goes into knowing how.

635 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:31:07am

^ thinking PIMF

636 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:33:01am

If we loose, and that's a big if right now, it will be in part McCain's campaign reforms fault.

Obama's Money Blowout
John McCain gets hoist on his own 'reform.'

The Democrat first promised to abide by federal campaign spending limits when he was a long-shot in the primaries. But once he showed he could raise $265 million against Hillary Clinton, he took the rational (if cynical) route by opting out of the government-run program in the autumn. A Republican would have been tarred and feathered by the media, with reports night after night about the "fat cats" funding his campaign; Mr. Obama is getting a pass.

This monumental flip-flop should finally bust the illusion that campaign finance reform is somehow about better government. It is really about power. Liberals campaign for limits when they serve their election purposes but abandon them when they don't. Bill Clinton proved that in 1996 and we are learning that lesson again this year.

The ultimate irony -- perversity, if you're a Republican -- is that the great champion for today's system is none other than John McCain. Having pushed for the government to limit money in politics, he is being outspent -- and, should the polls hold, beaten -- thanks in part to the laws he worked tirelessly to put on the books. The same media that celebrated him as a "reformer" have abandoned him now that they've found a better progressive.

With skewed polls and the MSM cheer leading like never before Obama needs to be at least double digits going in. The Bradley effect, the PUMA's, and the never shows up youth vote will see us to victory. Then all hell will break out.

637 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:33:48am

I watched Clear and Present Danger last night...again.

I couldn't help but think that we need a Jack Ryan type for president.

The slimy, shape-shifting politicians were much more like Obama.

For the first time in my adult life I've noticed that there are 3 "i"'s in 'politician.'

Coincidence?

638 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:35:09am

re: #637 DistantThunder

I said, "There's no I in team".
To which my son replied, "But there is a Me!"

639 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:35:14am

re: #636 Rancher

If we loose, and that's a big if right now, it will be in part McCain's campaign reforms fault.

Obama's Money Blowout
John McCain gets hoist on his own 'reform.'

With skewed polls and the MSM cheer leading like never before Obama needs to be at least double digits going in. The Bradley effect, the PUMA's, and the never shows up youth vote will see us to victory. Then all hell will break out.

All hell will break out either way. These cities have riots even when their teams win - like Detroit.

640 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:36:22am

Morning all!

I need the coffee bad....

641 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:36:23am

re: #618 wintercat

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
Thats right, folks..
Don't touch that dial
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livingroom floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

Zappa understood.

642 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:36:31am

so did i and my kid too,, we both turned out ok, (i think) but movies have long been out mostly because of the cost unless you go on saturday afternoon, and since i am rarely home and when i am i sleep or HERE, no use for cable, although i do miss sunday night football, that also pisses me off that we even have to pay for tv inthe first place come to think of it ;_)

re: #628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My kids grew up watching TV, going to movies and living normal, un-sheltered /public school lives.

I'll put their thinking/reasoning skills against any other kids their ages.

Environment plays a key factor.

You don't have to shelter them, you have to show them how to absorb and deflect.

Of course, if they end up being axe murderers...boy am I going to be red- faced.

643 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:36:41am

I'm going to see the doctor. Anybody need a prescription?

644 wintercat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:36:50am

re: #628 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are no guarantees in life and our kids could end up being axe murders too...hope not though. But it sounds like you didn't allow them to be mesmerized. You provided them with a wider scope and engaged them beyond those passive pursuits. We have not sheltered entirely but we have chosen what we will spend our time on and what we will not. It is just that TV and video games are not the babysitter. Like I said, we download what we want to watch. And we do discuss. In fact, there have been many great discussions in our home that take both sides of an issue.

At times, there have been objections from the peanut gallery, sure. But then they filled the time reading books.

645 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:37:07am

Morning, Lizards.

646 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:38:27am

re: #642 bcgirl

so did i and my kid too,, we both turned out ok, (i think) but movies have long been out mostly because of the cost unless you go on saturday afternoon, and since i am rarely home and when i am i sleep or HERE, no use for cable, although i do miss sunday night football, that also pisses me off that we even have to pay for tv inthe first place come to think of it ;_)

All the teenage movies have overt sexual references now to Bj's and all sorts of deviant behaviors like 3-somes. It is pretty shocking. Girls as meat theme is pretty big. I think it is clearly more insideous.

Take the movie Stepford Wives has a huge anti-Christian these woven all through it.

647 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:38:33am

re: #636 Rancher

If we loose, and that's a big if right now, it will be in part McCain's campaign reforms fault.

Obama's Money Blowout
John McCain gets hoist on his own 'reform.'

With skewed polls and the MSM cheer leading like never before Obama needs to be at least double digits going in. The Bradley effect, the PUMA's, and the never shows up youth vote will see us to victory. Then all hell will break out.

Anyone counting on the PUMA's the Bradley effect or the never shows up youth vote for McCain to win has already conceded the election to Obama.

648 wintercat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:39:20am

re: #641 Pullus Iulius

It is funny you mention Zappa. In recent days the phrase, "It can't happen here." keeps coming to mind.

649 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:39:46am

re: #647 doriangrey

So you believe the polls? Who's conceded?

650 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:39:46am

These = theme

651 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:41:26am

re: #647 doriangrey

Anyone counting on the PUMA's the Bradley effect or the never shows up youth vote for McCain to win has already conceded the election to Obama.

No, internal leaks from the O campaign say they are worried about the same thing. This Hawaii thing is suspicious. Why NOT just release the dang birth certificate. Speculation is that it has his father listed as Arab - which isn't that big of a deal EXCEPT that he would have deliberately kept it hidden. The cover-up.

652 scratch  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:42:39am

If people have liberal philosophies and want a liberal president, then I can live with that. But what is frustrating me to no end is my impression (supported over and over by polls and voter interviews) that a great number of voters--possibly a majority--have no idea how liberal Obama is, or have no idea what it means to be liberal, or both. I mean, these people who say they are on the fence and have been waiting for McCain to "articulate his plans better" are either lying or profoundly ignorant. And I swear I'm not using the word "ignorant" as an insult to Obama supporters...if you are liberal and want a liberal president then more power to you. Just don't act like, gosh, you just can't make up your mind, because that really makes it look like you are caught up in the...wait for it...celebrity.

653 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:43:15am

It may just be where I am, but driving through Charlotte, I see very few signs or bumper stickers for either candidate. And this is now a critical state, you'd think you'd see more. I know why I don't have one on my car!

654 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:43:39am

re: #652 scratch

If people have liberal philosophies and want a liberal president, then I can live with that. But what is frustrating me to no end is my impression (supported over and over by polls and voter interviews) that a great number of voters--possibly a majority--have no idea how liberal Obama is, or have no idea what it means to be liberal, or both. I mean, these people who say they are on the fence and have been waiting for McCain to "articulate his plans better" are either lying or profoundly ignorant. And I swear I'm not using the word "ignorant" as an insult to Obama supporters...if you are liberal and want a liberal president then more power to you. Just don't act like, gosh, you just can't make up your mind, because that really makes it look like you are caught up in the...wait for it...celebrity.

people can be very shallow and want to be led around by a strong horse.

655 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:45:10am

re: #646 DistantThunder

All the teenage movies have overt sexual references now to Bj's and all sorts of deviant behaviors like 3-somes. It is pretty shocking. Girls as meat theme is pretty big. I think it is clearly more insideous.

Take the movie Stepford Wives has a huge anti-Christian these woven all through it.


did not see that movie either version i think

656 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:45:40am

re: #649 Rancher

So you believe the polls? Who's conceded?

Believe the polls? what are you smoking? The only poll that counts is in Nov. But I have no intention of hoping that democrats will help McCain win. My intention is to vote, and make sure every McCain favorable person I know votes, not to place any hope in PUMA's, the Bradley effect or the never shows up youth vote.

657 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:47:00am

re: #653 Beach Lover

It may just be where I am, but driving through Charlotte, I see very few signs or bumper stickers for either candidate. And this is now a critical state, you'd think you'd see more. I know why I don't have one on my car!

I've heard that my neighbors want to do something to 'counteract' my McCain sign, but none of them have Obama signs in their yard or stickers on their cars. I think they are embarrassed to be supporting him. Or just too damned lazy.

658 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:47:11am

re: #652 scratch

If people have liberal philosophies and want a liberal president, then I can live with that. But what is frustrating me to no end is my impression (supported over and over by polls and voter interviews) that a great number of voters--possibly a majority--have no idea how liberal Obama is, or have no idea what it means to be liberal, or both. I mean, these people who say they are on the fence and have been waiting for McCain to "articulate his plans better" are either lying or profoundly ignorant. And I swear I'm not using the word "ignorant" as an insult to Obama supporters...if you are liberal and want a liberal president then more power to you. Just don't act like, gosh, you just can't make up your mind, because that really makes it look like you are caught up in the...wait for it...celebrity.

I can't live with that because when you ask people details about their liberal nirvana - they have no proof that it has ever worked anywhere. Walter Williams has a great article out today on the failure of socialize health care.

One of the campaign themes this election cycle is "affordable" health care. Shouldn't we ask ourselves whether we want the politicians who brought us the "affordable" housing, that created the current financial debacle, to now deliver us affordable health care? Shouldn't we also ask how things turned out in countries where there is socialized medicine? (DUH!)

The Vancouver, British Columbia-based Fraser Institute's annual publication, "Waiting Your Turn," reports that Canada's median waiting times from a patient's referral by a general practitioner to treatment by a specialist, depending on the procedure, averages from five to 40 weeks. The wait for diagnostics, such as MRI or CT, ranges between four and 28 weeks.

659 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:48:05am

This morning just gets better and better...

One of my two Mac signs was stolen last night. :-(

660 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:48:46am

may i ask other lizards, will you vote early or wait till Election Day?
i want to wait, but on the one hand i know that tons of obamas are voting now, do you think waiting would hurt or not

re: #647 doriangrey

Anyone counting on the PUMA's the Bradley effect or the never shows up youth vote for McCain to win has already conceded the election to Obama.

661 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:48:46am

re: #659 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

This morning just gets better and better...

One of my two Mac signs was stolen last night. :-(

You should sprinkle them with itching powder.

662 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:49:10am

re: #651 DistantThunder

No, internal leaks from the O campaign say they are worried about the same thing. This Hawaii thing is suspicious. Why NOT just release the dang birth certificate. Speculation is that it has his father listed as Arab - which isn't that big of a deal EXCEPT that he would have deliberately kept it hidden. The cover-up.

I couldnt care less what the O camp is worried about. The only thing I care about is getting McCain elected. That will never be done by hoping the angry or disappointed democrats vote for McCain, or that the younger voters fail to show up.

663 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:49:25am

re: #661 DistantThunder

You should sprinkle them with itching powder.

We are going to replace that sign with two new ones...

664 HR Guy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:49:34am

I'm told (haven't seen them yet) that houses of supporters of The One are sporting new signs...something to the effect of "Democratic Neighborhood HQ". It is supposed to be a subtle invitation to the party on election night. Have any of you seen these?

I'm in SC, a very red state.

665 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:49:35am

Dennis Bryne sums up "the One" perfectly in this article:

Mr. Smooth

666 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:49:55am
667 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:50:25am

re: #660 bcgirl

may i ask other lizards, will you vote early or wait till Election Day?
i want to wait, but on the one hand i know that tons of obamas are voting now, do you think waiting would hurt or not

Rush just said yesterday to get going and vote now. The press is reporting that far more democrats have voted early - a way to demoralize us. But I wonder if enough republicans vote early, the dems will have a better idea of how many votes they have to manufacture, so would it be better to make them wait longer?

668 Mich-again  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:50:46am

re: #609 wintercat

No one hates the limousine liberals in Hollywood more than me and I can count on one hand the number of movies I've been to see in a theater in the last 10 years. And that is just for the reasons you stated there. I can't stand the thought of putting a nickel in their pocket. I remember a few years back a story about how so many of the Hollywood elites were hiding their income in offshore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes. Just like any good elitist would do. Promote more social programs and higher taxes, as long as its other people's money, not their own.

669 ciaospirit  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:51:05am

Has anybody else heard that B Hussein bought up all remaining air time in key states? So McCain can't get the message out even if he had billions of dollars.

670 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:51:55am

re: #669 ciaospirit

Has anybody else heard that B Hussein bought up all remaining air time in key states? So McCain can't get the message out even if he had billions of dollars.

That doesn't sound physically possible...

671 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:52:26am

re: #660 bcgirl

may i ask other lizards, will you vote early or wait till Election Day?
i want to wait, but on the one hand i know that tons of obamas are voting now, do you think waiting would hurt or not

I'm waiting because I very distinctly remember an election in Florida where absentee ballots were tossed out because they were republican/military. I have no doubt that the dem's here in California will try to disqualify any republican ballot any way they can.

672 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:52:28am

get a bigger one too

re: #663 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

We are going to replace that sign with two new ones...

673 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:53:31am

re: #617 DistantThunder

Amen. Amen. We have cancelled out cable and we DO NOT go to movies other than American Carol and others that promote Christian values like Lion Witch and the Wardrobe.

The Taliban are applauding./

674 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:53:34am

re: #666 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]

Just because I want Al Gore to know I care.

Go to the web cam now very beautiful this moment.

We're thinking of leaving South Jersey - like 49% of people who live in NJ plan to leave - and moving to colorado.

675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:53:46am

re: #672 bcgirl

I'll put in the request.

/wife is going to the local office to try to get them... the one's I have (had?) were ones I ordered from the website, they took forever to get here.

676 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:53:51am

re: #670 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That doesn't sound physically possible...

Not to mention illegal.... Oh wait.... snaps.... never mind.....

677 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:54:25am

re: #668 Mich-again

No one hates the limousine liberals in Hollywood more than me and I can count on one hand the number of movies I've been to see in a theater in the last 10 years. And that is just for the reasons you stated there. I can't stand the thought of putting a nickel in their pocket. I remember a few years back a story about how so many of the Hollywood elites were hiding their income in offshore bank accounts to avoid paying taxes. Just like any good elitist would do. Promote more social programs and higher taxes, as long as its other people's money, not their own.

All my liberal relatives admit to cheating on their taxes - and then they vote for higher taxes because they say: "people should pay their fair share."

678 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:54:34am

re: #676 doriangrey

Not to mention illegal.... Oh wait.... snaps.... never mind.....

Illegal? That's a sick bird right?

679 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:55:04am

re: #641 Pullus Iulius

re: #667 DistantThunder

Rush just said yesterday to get going and vote now. The press is reporting that far more democrats have voted early - a way to demoralize us.


Republicans have to WORK for a living.

680 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:55:38am

re: #678 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Illegal? That's a sick bird right?

Yup.... Them dem's are definitely some very sick birds.... lol...lol...lol...

681 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:56:04am

re: #677 DistantThunder

All my liberal relatives admit to cheating on their taxes - and then they vote for higher taxes because they say: "people should pay their fair share."

Perfect liberal logic.....

682 Rancher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:56:06am

So so many don't bother looking further than what the talking heads say. So so many vote on impressions or feelings. That being said many many Obama supporters know exactly what he is going to do. Take from the rich and give to me. And yet the polls are close. PUMA's are energized. The kids have never shown up to vote, although that may change this election. I'll believe it when I see it. But the Bradley effect is going to be huge, the Nickelodeon Kid's Poll, (re: #549 Sharmuta) backs this view up. Don't count on it, go vote, but I am very optimistic.

683 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:56:16am

re: #680 doriangrey

Yup.... Them dem's are definitely some very sick birds.... lol...lol...lol..cluck...cluck...cluck

Fixed.

684 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:56:47am

re: #657 NC State of Mind
I forget which part of the state you live. I expect the Raleigh area to be more liberal, but Charlotte used to be pretty conservative. Now it is full of transplants from the NE and has changed somewhat. Also, factor in the large AA community, and we know which way they are voting. And I think they will vote this year.

685 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:57:59am

re: #677 DistantThunder

All my liberal relatives admit to cheating on their taxes - and then they vote for higher taxes because they say: "people should pay their fair share."

Now that is priceless! Guess they meant that other people should pay their share

686 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:58:17am

re: #682 Rancher

Combination of Bradley Effect and the Liberal & Obama Bias of the polls and the polling firms.

Perfect storm to make the poll numbers wrong. By a lot.

687 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:58:24am

i have a couple extra just McCain ones from just before he announced Sarah, the other day i noticed that someones brand new McCain Palin sign had been blacked out on one side, so i stopped by on my way past and stuck one of the old ones on that side, that side just happens to face the 4 signs in the yard down the streed which say firefighters for obama (sorry lizard fftrs) sometimes driving around all night has it's advantages!

re: #675 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I'll put in the request.

/wife is going to the local office to try to get them... the one's I have (had?) were ones I ordered from the website, they took forever to get here.

688 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:58:28am

re: #673 sparrowlake

The Taliban are applauding./

Why would the Taliban appauld? We read lots of books, we watch lots of movies on DVD that we have pre-screened for content. I read my news on the internet from about 8-9 different sites that take me at minimum to 20 different original news sources.

Meanwhile my liberal relative only listens to NPR - only reads the Huffington Post - mostly watches PBS, and HBO, (some classic movies) and ONLY reads the NYT's because it's the only newspaper she can trust.

689 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:58:40am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Weds.=yeech
:)

690 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:00:38am

I never thought that my beloved America would ever elect a man who wants to raise taxes on most Americans, who would move the Supremem Court farther to the left, who would have us surrender wars when they become too tough, who would move to silence his critics via legislative tactics, who would move to provide more nationalism in a four year term than in the previous 230 years of national history...

What the hell is happening? Has the Lib indoctrination process finally paid off?

We do realize that once some of Obama's most dangerous programs are in place, we will NEVER be able to repeal them...

691 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:01:35am

re: #689 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?
Weds.=yeech
:)

Morning you slacker..... wheres ma coffee..... ;p

692 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:01:36am

re: #659 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

This morning just gets better and better...

One of my two Mac signs was stolen last night. :-(

Just look at the middle of the screen and think Obama limits,
all will be well.

693 Mich-again  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:03:25am

re: #677 DistantThunder

All my liberal relatives admit to cheating on their taxes - and then they vote for higher taxes because they say: "people should pay their fair share."

This is the predominant mindset in the rich liberal. They shill for other people to pay higher taxes while they do everything legal or not to avoid paying their fair share. I have seen this firsthand dozens of times and I honestly think it helps them justify their own greed and tax cheating by helping promote politicians who are "for the little guy".

694 doriangrey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:03:34am

Well Lizards, time for me to go fund some terrorists, and then fund some democrats terrorists.....

695 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:04:16am

re: #694 doriangrey

Well Lizards, time for me to go fund some terrorists, and then fund some democrats terrorists.....

Have a good one Dorian!

696 The Archivist  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:04:23am

At least two hours early, probably, but....

Zombie! Zombie! Zombie! Zombie!.....

697 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:04:27am

re: #686 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

In addition to the Bradley effect, there will be the "Hussein" effect, I think.

Bradley was Mayor of LA when I was a teenager & as I recall he was really good, & he would make a good candidate now too. My dad worked for the City of LA & I had summer jobs there too.

698 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:06:01am

yes but but Republicans also go vote before work, after work and even some do it on their lunch hour, some bosses even give extra time.
i dont think that we will be swayed no matter the lies, either vote early or vote right up till 659pm NOV 4, vote even if the "polls" show there is no reason because the only poll that really matters is the one that is counted Nov 4 and that includes all the early ones, which cannot officially be counted till then so how on earth can any body really say how it is going to turn out

re: #679 ibmkeyboard

re: #667 DistantThunder


Republicans have to WORK for a living.

699 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:06:22am

Good morning all y'all - from a cold (41 degrees, going up to 64 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

Hope everyone is doing well this morning!

700 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:06:27am

re: #691 doriangrey

Morning you slacker..... wheres ma coffee..... ;p

I couldn't get on this morning...kept locking up on Comments.
How about some full bodied summatra this morning?

701 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:07:06am

re: #690 tfc3rid

For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, right? IF Obama wins, and that is not decided yet, and IF the Dems pursue the violent turn to the left we all fear they will, I think the right will rise up and take back the congress in 2010. Obama has shown nothing to me think that he can handle a major problem....and that could be anything from a war in the middle east to the loony left in the house and senate going crazy. My guess is Obama will be given a gigantic pass by the fawning press at first, but even they will not be able to hide his inadequacies once he has to make actual decisions on vital issues. As for our beloved congress.....they are at 9% approval now....I want to see how low they can go. Pelosi-Reid-Obama, unchecked, will be a disaster, but a short term one IMHO.

702 Knitwit  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:07:11am

re: #653 Beach Lover
I live in the Charlotte area, and have noticed that there are a lot of signs for local and state elections, but very few for the national contests.

703 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:07:15am

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

The obligatory shark story from Down Under - this time from Sydney Harbour!


Have a look at the pic - it's a goodie!

704 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:07:28am

re: #699 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a cold (41 degrees, going up to 64 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

Hope everyone is doing well this morning!


Good Morning Realwest!
I'm doing great!

705 Last Mohican  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:08:01am

I'm not putting much stock in the "Bradley effect." I'm worried about the "ACORN effect," i.e. hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of people who could not possibly be polled because they don't exist, but who have already cast their absentee ballots for Obama.

706 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:08:34am

DOW futures down 250 in premarket. What happened overnight that could possibly cause that?

/oh yeah, Lord President For Life Obama looms ever closer

707 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:09:31am

re: #703 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

The obligatory shark story from Down Under - this time from Sydney Harbour!


Have a look at the pic - it's a goodie!


You call that a shark?
:)
Good morning aussie!

708 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:09:32am

re: #699 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a cold (41 degrees, going up to 64 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

Hope everyone is doing well this morning!

Hi darls! *Smooch* (Miss Trixie's permission given again)

709 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:09:37am

Fuck it, let's go bowling.

/g'devening, Reptilia!

710 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:09:58am

Yesterday I read a good article on Russia, Iran, and Venezuelas' budgets. They have been arrogant bullies with oil over $100. They have based their national budgets on oil priced at $70. Today is an extraordinarily good day.

Nymex Crude Future 69.46

711 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:10:00am

re: #690 tfc3rid
thanks for printing that..I feel the same. And just now saw that idiot lady with the hat speaking from the podium at an ACORN group saying how we need Obama and Obama needs us! I think what has happened to common sense anymore. And Maxine Waters! disgusting

Many of those that will vote for Obama, will pay no attention to what policies he will change. They will still complain they aren't being treated fairly by the "rich".

712 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:11:00am

funny, this is pretty much what one of my coworkers said just yesterday, except she is a recent immigrant to America from Armenia, and here is something else - her grandmother is supposed to come visit in Nov, she was supposed to come before the election, she has said that if America elects Barak Obama, she will not come and has already changed her ticket to after the election just in case he does not. as my father would say,, Put that in your pipe and smoke it Obama

re: #690 tfc3rid

I never thought that my beloved America would ever elect a man who wants to raise taxes on most Americans, who would move the Supremem Court farther to the left, who would have us surrender wars when they become too tough, who would move to silence his critics via legislative tactics, who would move to provide more nationalism in a four year term than in the previous 230 years of national history...

What the hell is happening? Has the Lib indoctrination process finally paid off?

We do realize that once some of Obama's most dangerous programs are in place, we will NEVER be able to repeal them...

713 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:11:03am

Did y'all hear about the pizza shop which is giving away one (1) free pizza to anyone who comes in with a McCain/Palin sign? Yep, woman owner (who was wearing an Obama pin) said since McCain has given up on Michigan, Michigan should give up on him.
When asked if she wasn't providing incentives for people to steal McCain/Palin signs from other people's lawns and all she just shrugged and said "No we're saying if you bring in YOUR McCain/Palin sign, we're not encouraging folks to steal other people's property."
And of course Fox or the MSM being what they are no one bothered to ask her how many people is she gonna have to lay off if Obama becomes president.
Among other questions that they could have asked.

714 kcladderman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:11:11am

re: #687 bcgirl

i have a couple extra just McCain ones from just before he announced Sarah, the other day i noticed that someones brand new McCain Palin sign had been blacked out on one side, so i stopped by on my way past and stuck one of the old ones on that side, that side just happens to face the 4 signs in the yard down the streed which say firefighters for obama (sorry lizard fftrs) sometimes driving around all night has it's advantages!

I hate those signs.

715 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:11:41am

Morning Real!

716 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:11:46am

re: #701 Desert Dog

For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, right? IF Obama wins, and that is not decided yet, and IF the Dems pursue the violent turn to the left we all fear they will, I think the right will rise up and take back the congress in 2010. Obama has shown nothing to me think that he can handle a major problem....and that could be anything from a war in the middle east to the loony left in the house and senate going crazy. My guess is Obama will be given a gigantic pass by the fawning press at first, but even they will not be able to hide his inadequacies once he has to make actual decisions on vital issues. As for our beloved congress.....they are at 9% approval now....I want to see how low they can go. Pelosi-Reid-Obama, unchecked, will be a disaster, but a short term one IMHO.

But the Union Secret ballot regulation can be accomplished in months... The defunding of missile defense in months... 2 years may be way too late for some issues...

717 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:12:03am

re: #707 HoosierHoops

You call that a shark?
:)
Good morning aussie!

LOL! Shades of Croc Dundee...

And good morning to you too - it's just after midnight here and it's Thursday

718 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:12:22am

re: #699 realwest

Been sawing, sanding and applying putty today, my lungs and eyes are probably going to start faltering in the next year or so...and I'm actually feeling reasonably well.

/needs more soma or Obama news to restore normality...

719 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:12:46am

re: #711 Beach Lover

thanks for printing that..I feel the same. And just now saw that idiot lady with the hat speaking from the podium at an ACORN group saying how we need Obama and Obama needs us! I think what has happened to common sense anymore. And Maxine Waters! disgusting

Many of those that will vote for Obama, will pay no attention to what policies he will change. They will still complain they aren't being treated fairly by the "rich".

No, people are voting for Obama because he's 'not Bush'...

720 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:13:09am

re: #711 Beach Lover

thanks for printing that..I feel the same. And just now saw that idiot lady with the hat speaking from the podium at an ACORN group saying how we need Obama and Obama needs us! I think what has happened to common sense anymore. And Maxine Waters! disgusting

Many of those that will vote for Obama, will pay no attention to what policies he will change. They will still complain they aren't being treated fairly by the "rich".

The irony is that those poor who complain they aren't being treated fairly by the "rich" will send their money to a man who has raised over 600 MILLION DOLLARS. Then bitch about a CEO who makes under 10 million. Go figure.

721 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:13:13am

re: #703 aussiemagpie
Hey there {Aussiemagpie} - say, did your country go to war with someone last night, early this morning?! Mom swears she saw one of those "ticker" type displays on Fox News this morning that said something about it but she didn't have a chance to read it!? If you did, Good Luck!
Otherwise how are you doing today?

722 akak  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:13:15am
Lynda Shorten, executive producer for CBC Radio’s As It Happens, exits a news meeting upset. After a wave of deaths among Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan, management at the public broadcaster is asking: What are we going to do for the 100th death? .... she is so bothered by the thought of covering the 100th death that she fumbles her words and cannot look me in the eye. She recognizes the symbolic meaning of 100 but worries about turning a human being into a number. By doing so, she says “you somehow diminish the death of number 53, 54, number 72, and it turns the death toll in Afghanistan into something approaching a score in a game.” .... Shorten’s solution is to do the same with the 100th death as her show has for Canada’s other fallen soldiers. “We’ll probably note it’s the 100th but not make that the focus,” she says. “My dream intro would say, ‘To some people he or she is a number, but to so and so, he was her son.’ Or something like that ....

[Link: forums.army.ca...]


I do miss terroristdeathwatch.com .

723 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:13:27am

re: #713 realwest

I think her pizza shop will do well under Obamanomics. Once all the remaining jobs in Michigan evaporate because of higher taxes and a bad economy, everyone in Michigan will be working at Pizza parlors. The economy will be based on workers delivering pizzas to each other.

724 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:14:18am

re: #713 realwest

Did y'all hear about the pizza shop which is giving away one (1) free pizza to anyone who comes in with a McCain/Palin sign? Yep, woman owner (who was wearing an Obama pin) said since McCain has given up on Michigan, Michigan should give up on him.
When asked if she wasn't providing incentives for people to steal McCain/Palin signs from other people's lawns and all she just shrugged and said "No we're saying if you bring in YOUR McCain/Palin sign, we're not encouraging folks to steal other people's property."
And of course Fox or the MSM being what they are no one bothered to ask her how many people is she gonna have to lay off if Obama becomes president.
Among other questions that they could have asked.

Saw that one... all I can say is "typical".

These are the gutter tactics the Left can do almost w/o question. If a pizza place offered free pizza if you brought in "your" Obama sign, they'd find the press camped in their lot 24/7 and their license revoked.

725 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:14:42am

re: #688 DistantThunder

You are the one who said you self-censor movies that do not promote "Christian values". Earlier, you said you self-censor movies which feature actors with whose politics you disagree.

The Taliban censor anything that does not promote "Islamist values" and they silence those who disagree with their politics.
Can't you see why they are applauding?
How ironic.

BTW, didn't Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting promote Christian values?

726 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:14:44am

re: #712 bcgirl

funny, this is pretty much what one of my coworkers said just yesterday, except she is a recent immigrant to America from Armenia, and here is something else - her grandmother is supposed to come visit in Nov, she was supposed to come before the election, she has said that if America elects Barak Obama, she will not come and has already changed her ticket to after the election just in case he does not. as my father would say,, Put that in your pipe and smoke it Obama

Republicans have not been paying attention while liberals infested every corner of government and academia. Even if we managed to notice we haven't organized ourselves sufficiently to get the word out and fight them off, beat them back - metaphorically of course. The average person cannot talk coherently about capitalism and tax policy. The liberal voters and the young - especially not.

We need to focus and never forget this lesson and never let up - because the other side has been super focused on this - they don't have religion - they have liberalism. We messed up by underestimating their focus, drive, corruption and depth and breath of their goals. The want it all and they want it NOW.

727 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:15:14am

re: #702 Knitwit
Me, too. And those never say which party they are in, so it's hard to tell. Other than McCorey, and the senate race, I'm not up on some of the lower level names.

728 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:16:27am

re: #727 Beach Lover

Have you heard if McCory is polling well? It's been too long since we had a Pub Gov.

729 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:17:00am

re: #723 Desert Dog

I think her pizza shop will do well under Obamanomics. Once all the remaining jobs in Michigan evaporate because of higher taxes and a bad economy, everyone in Michigan will be working at Pizza parlors. The economy will be based on workers delivering pizzas to each other.

I live here in MI. We can't afford luxuries like pizza. It's mail order rice patties from Thailand. That's the future here.

730 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:17:00am

re: #703 aussiemagpie

G'day from Down Under to {everyone}

The obligatory shark story from Down Under - this time from Sydney Harbour!


Have a look at the pic - it's a goodie!


Thats no suprise....it is the financial district ....RIGHT?

731 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:17:20am

re: #713 realwest

re: #724 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Saw that one... all I can say is "typical".

These are the gutter tactics the Left can do almost w/o question. If a pizza place offered free pizza if you brought in "your" Obama sign, they'd find the press camped in their lot 24/7 and their license revoked.

Depends on who the owner sides with. If it were a pro-Obama store owner, they'd be going on about "how a local pizza store is doing its own thing to help a campaign."

The article title would be "Presidential Pizza Parlor."

732 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:17:48am

re: #717 aussiemagpie

LOL! Shades of Croc Dundee...

And good morning to you too - it's just after midnight here and it's Thursday


So the world makes it till thursday..That's good news.
How is thursday shaping up?

733 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:17:53am

re: #704 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops! Glad you're doing and feeling well.
I'm not. I'm in some pain (I think related to my cancer or maybe just my old age!) and my fricking computer is causing me problems - it just won't shut down after the screen says that Windows is saving my data and then says Windows is shutting down - but it doesn't shut down so I have to crash dive it.
Bored mucho many folks out here LATE last night and got lots of helpful hints at to what to do, my favorite being "load two double ought buckshot into the ......"! LOL!
Plus I gotta run, walk, hobble my way out with Mom to get some chores done VERY EARLY (in about an hour).

734 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:17:57am

re: #721 realwest

Hey there {Aussiemagpie} - say, did your country go to war with someone last night, early this morning?! Mom swears she saw one of those "ticker" type displays on Fox News this morning that said something about it but she didn't have a chance to read it!? If you did, Good Luck!
Otherwise how are you doing today?

Hi, the only wars happening now are the Rugby League World Cup starting on Sunday, and a war of words between Aussie fans and Indian authorities about some supposedly insulting Tshirts the Aussies were wearing!

But then we could be in the dark about it - our MSM is like yours - selective with news to be shared with us plebs :-)

735 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:18:32am

re: #726 DistantThunder

Republicans have not been paying attention while liberals infested every corner of government and academia. Even if we managed to notice we haven't organized ourselves sufficiently to get the word out and fight them off, beat them back - metaphorically of course. The average person cannot talk coherently about capitalism and tax policy. The liberal voters and the young - especially not.

We need to focus and never forget this lesson and never let up - because the other side has been super focused on this - they don't have religion - they have liberalism. We messed up by underestimating their focus, drive, corruption and depth and breath of their goals. The want it all and they want it NOW.

I think from what I am seeing in this election and now more than ever that while we are civilized and want to based things upon reason and facts but that we actually have to get out there and make ourselves known... Stop hiding in the shadows and make ourselves well known... Protesting the behavior and character of the (hope not) future President Government... The lefties are out there... Everywhere... They do it with violence and idiocy... We need to be more visible...

736 kcladderman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:18:46am

re: #725 sparrowlake

You are the one who said you self-censor movies that do not promote "Christian values". Earlier, you said you self-censor movies which feature actors with whose politics you disagree.

The Taliban censor anything that does not promote "Islamist values" and they silence those who disagree with their politics.
Can't you see why they are applauding?
How ironic.

BTW, didn't Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting promote Christian values?

Only difference the Taliban censor everyones movies. Distant Thunder just chooses not to see them.

737 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:19:11am

McCain rally in NH?

Obama rally in NH a day or so ago.

/This at a time when VA is teetering on the brink? I say you are seeing the internals right there... if they are fighting for those few EVs then, you have to admit that VA is not that shakey. Either that, or both campaigns have lost their minds.

738 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:19:22am

re: #729 CommonCents

I live here in MI. We can't afford luxuries like pizza. It's mail order rice patties from Thailand. That's the future here.

The MI economic model... Coming Soon to the rest of the country!

739 Mich-again  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:19:34am

If you want to see what a monopoly of Democratic political power can accomplish, come take a stroll through the neighborhoods in Detroit.

The Dems have held every office at all levels of Government in Detroit for decades now. And it shows.

740 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:20:47am

re: #716 tfc3rid

There is no doubt they will do damage. But my belief is most Americans are about in the middle when political things are considered. If the right goes to crazy, there is a reaction by the voters and the same thing will apply to the left. I cannot see a super majority congress feeling restrained, especially with Obama in the White House. They will go nuts, passing all sorts of nonsense. My hope is, they will go too far too fast and cause a backlash. I think most people are sick of GWB and smitten by Obama's charm more than live and breath the radical agenda the left wants. They cannot sustain a crazy leftist agenda very long before it falls apart. I hope I am right, otherwise, It would mean we are totally screwed!

741 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:20:52am

re: #730 reloadingisnotahobby

Thats no suprise....it is the financial district ....RIGHT?

Hi, yes that's our very own Macquarie Bank in the pic - lots of comments about it being a loan shark!

742 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:20:58am

re: #725 sparrowlake

You are the one who said you self-censor movies that do not promote "Christian values". Earlier, you said you self-censor movies which feature actors with whose politics you disagree.

The Taliban censor anything that does not promote "Islamist values" and they silence those who disagree with their politics.
Can't you see why they are applauding?
How ironic.

BTW, didn't Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting promote Christian values?

Everyone self-censors - do you watch the thousands of movies put out every year? I didn't think so. I make an educated choice of where I want to pro-actively pursue the news - i don't want it force-fed to me via NBCCBSABCPBS. Or movies force-fed to me via HBO. What's the point of movie reviews if not to help us to choose what we want to watch.

I don't think the Taliban were trying to be helpful to people. They were taking away individual choice - while I am exercising and epitomizing individual choice.

743 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:06am

exactly why we have to get McCain elected if for no other reason than the Supremem Court. Protect not change the Constitution


em>re: #726 DistantThunder

Republicans have not been paying attention while liberals infested every corner of government and academia. Even if we managed to notice we haven't organized ourselves sufficiently to get the word out and fight them off, beat them back - metaphorically of course. The average person cannot talk coherently about capitalism and tax policy. The liberal voters and the young - especially not.

We need to focus and never forget this lesson and never let up - because the other side has been super focused on this - they don't have religion - they have liberalism. We messed up by underestimating their focus, drive, corruption and depth and breath of their goals. The want it all and they want it NOW.

744 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:07am

re: #737 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

McCain rally in NH?

Obama rally in NH a day or so ago.

/This at a time when VA is teetering on the brink? I say you are seeing the internals right there... if they are fighting for those few EVs then, you have to admit that VA is not that shakey. Either that, or both campaigns have lost their minds.

I think VA is everything... Polls close at like 8 PM... If VA goes for The O, it's over... I cannot imagine why McCain is not in VA...

745 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:29am

re: #729 CommonCents

I live here in MI. We can't afford luxuries like pizza. It's mail order rice patties from Thailand. That's the future here.

On the brighter side, misery loves company and we may all be getting ready to join you unfortunately.

746 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:32am

re: #725 sparrowlake

You are the one who said you self-censor movies that do not promote "Christian values". Earlier, you said you self-censor movies which feature actors with whose politics you disagree.

The Taliban censor anything that does not promote "Islamist values" and they silence those who disagree with their politics.
Can't you see why they are applauding?
How ironic.

BTW, didn't Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting promote Christian values?

Well..I don't think good will hunted promoted christian values..At least not that i could tell..I liked the part where matt almost gets in a fight in a bar with the Harvard dude that thinks he is so smart...

747 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:32am

re: #715 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Morning back atcha - how are you doing today?

748 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:49am

BBIAM

749 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:21:56am

re: #730 reloadingisnotahobby

Thats no suprise....it is the financial district ....RIGHT?

Shark fin would make a good logo for predatory Democrats like Pelosi and Shummer and Dodd.

750 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:22:09am

re: #739 Mich-again

If you want to see what a monopoly of Democratic political power can accomplish, come take a stroll through the neighborhoods in Detroit.

The Dems have held every office at all levels of Government in Detroit for decades now. And it shows.

As they say in Detroit, True Dat.

751 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:22:12am

re: #737 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

McCain rally in NH?

Obama rally in NH a day or so ago.

/This at a time when VA is teetering on the brink? I say you are seeing the internals right there... if they are fighting for those few EVs then, you have to admit that VA is not that shakey. Either that, or both campaigns have lost their minds.

/you can't force McCain to campaign in an actual battleground State at gunpoint, he's a Maverick, it's bizarre

752 onlyNYneocon  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:22:17am

Dont know if this has been mentioned, but last night on the news (fox, Greta) heard a McCain spokesperson say that the Rev Wright story might make a comeback.

Apparently, McCain has been insisting since the primary season, not to bring him up. His handlers have been urging him to "scorch the earth" He is now said to be considering it since he and Palin have been compared to Wallace and the klan.

Look for his name to be popping up at rallies in a town near you! (it's about time, if you ask me.)

753 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:22:32am

666,000 new voters in Ohio.
200,000 don't match.

Ohio allowed to cheat because of a loophole and a corrupt Democrat watching over the whole thing.

[Link: www.dcexaminer.com...]

morning all.

754 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:22:37am

re: #740 Desert Dog

They cannot sustain it but by passing crazy sorts of bills that might promote the end of secret ballots for Unionization, etc., we folks on the irght could very well end up as a minority/opposition party for quite some time...

Some of Obama's plans are irreversible...

755 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:23:36am

re: #625 DistantThunder

My current beef is with obnoxious cartoons and teen sitcoms. Everyone is fighting, arguing and putting each other down, calling each other stupid and worse. it sets a very, very poor example.

My 8 year old found an online game that requires the player to steal treasure from the parents and fight the parents in the game.

I bet it comes with the Dohrn Four-Star recommendation.

756 Knitwit  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:23:38am

re: #727 Beach Lover
Myrick has done a really great job.

Her opponent is a commercial real estate broker (not that there's anything wrong with that) who became prominent when he was incredibly rude to Pres. Bush re: the Iraq war when the President made an appearance here awhile back.

757 akak  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:23:44am

re: #740 Desert Dog

There is no doubt they will do damage. But my belief is most Americans are about in the middle when political things are considered. If the right goes to crazy, there is a reaction by the voters and the same thing will apply to the left. I cannot see a super majority congress feeling restrained, especially with Obama in the White House. They will go nuts, passing all sorts of nonsense. My hope is, they will go too far too fast and cause a backlash. I think most people are sick of GWB and smitten by Obama's charm more than live and breath the radical agenda the left wants. They cannot sustain a crazy leftist agenda very long before it falls apart. I hope I am right, otherwise, It would mean we are totally screwed!


Just think about how Bush vetoed recently then multiply by ?

Remember the military funding veto?

758 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:24:06am

re: #743 bcgirl

exactly why we have to get McCain elected if for no other reason than the Supremem Court. Protect not change the Constitution


em>re: #726 DistantThunder

And not even just the Supremes but the Circuit Courts as well... We are still being hounded by Clinton Administration court judges now... Obama will only nominate the most rasical/extreme litigators to judicial positions... Remember the stupid case of the Pledge of Allegiance?

759 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:24:09am

re: #744 tfc3rid

I think VA is everything... Polls close at like 8 PM... If VA goes for The O, it's over... I cannot imagine why McCain is not in VA...

Point is, the campaign internal polls show it as safe enough to fight for little NH and PA. That Obama "wasted" campaign time there a couple of days ago suggests his numbers agree.

NH and PA are shakey for the Dems. Va is safe for the Republicans. Based on circumstantial evidence.

760 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:24:30am

re: #755 MandyManners

I bet it comes with the Dohrn Four-Star recommendation.

U betcha!

761 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:24:48am

The amazing thing about the beast's class warfare strategy is that it is having to set up new accounts so that bloated millionaires can give ever larger amounts to its campaign, at least according to today's WaPo. Next time some moonbat says that 0 is the friend of the poor, remind them that never before has a campaign been more bought and paid for by reptilian lefty plutocrats (and if they look at you funny, tell them that means "really rich people").

762 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:24:53am

re: #747 realwest

Morning back atcha - how are you doing today?

Reasonable until I found out one of my two McCain signs was stolen. Now I'm just pissed off.

763 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:25:30am

re: #755 MandyManners

I bet it comes with the Dohrn Four-Star recommendation.

Good Morning Mandy! Hope today finds you well and in good spirits..

764 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:25:38am

re: #753 FrogMarch

666,000 new voters in Ohio.
200,000 don't match.

Ohio allowed to cheat because of a loophole and a corrupt Democrat watching over the whole thing.

[Link: www.dcexaminer.com...]

morning all.

Good morning to you too. [=

765 smokefire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:25:39am

re: #749 DistantThunder

Shark fin would make a good logo for predatory Democrats like Pelosi and Shummer and Dodd.


............agree on most part.
Dodd's logo should be the doughnut, where he and Teddy Kennedy foundered on the floor so many years ago.

I hate Dodd so much. I can't wait till 2010 so we can vote him out of office in Connecticut

766 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:25:43am

re: #627 Scion9

BHO: Born to be a used car salesman.

767 Vergeltung  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:25:45am

re: #742 DistantThunder

that concept may be beyond the reach of that particular poster.

768 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:25:56am

re: #759 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Point is, the campaign internal polls show it as safe enough to fight for little NH and PA. That Obama "wasted" campaign time there a couple of days ago suggests his numbers agree.

NH and PA are shakey for the Dems. Va is safe for the Republicans. Based on circumstantial evidence.

I don't believe it for a second... I think VA is going to flip blue.

769 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:26:11am

re: #732 HoosierHoops

So the world makes it till thursday..That's good news.
How is thursday shaping up?

Well, we're having a bit of winter weather here - it was snowing in the Blue Mountains just west of Sydney

This global warming must be stopped - bring on the carbon tax - that should do it!

Yes our own Dear Leader is bringing in this tax in 2010

770 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:26:35am

re: #728 NC State of Mind

Have you heard if McCory is polling well? It's been too long since we had a Pub Gov.


Must admit, I have not heard. Guess I listen to too much Fox News, and not enough of the local nets....but can't take all the "crime of the moment" that is nonstop. And McCory was really blasted on WBT -AM radio, by Keith Larson for so long about the light rail, even conservatives question him.

771 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:26:37am

re: #724 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)If a pizza place offered free pizza if you brought in "your" Obama sign, they'd find the press camped in their lot 24/7 and their license revoked.
Or much, much worse than that.

772 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:27:21am

re: #735 tfc3rid

I think from what I am seeing in this election and now more than ever that while we are civilized and want to based things upon reason and facts but that we actually have to get out there and make ourselves known... Stop hiding in the shadows and make ourselves well known... Protesting the behavior and character of the (hope not) future President Government... The lefties are out there... Everywhere... They do it with violence and idiocy... We need to be more visible...

we can start by goin to vote in huge numbers either now or by waiting, in my perfect storm, we wait and let them really think they have it in the bag and then all take the day off on NOV 4 and clog the polls all day long in every state in every city and town with nothing but republicans all wearing red whit and blue tee shirts that say America still the land of the free and the home of the brave (or something super cute and smart ass with out being cute and smart ass,,, yes that is the ticket!

773 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:27:25am

re: #768 tfc3rid

I don't believe it for a second... I think VA is going to flip blue.

Just stating what I'm seeing them do... in two weeks, we will know (well sort of, given all the fraud).

774 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:27:40am

re: #754 tfc3rid

Well, I think the dems in congress are wetting their collective pants right now because they are so excited. I really do not want to see what they come up with after January. I would look for every crack pot and outrageous plan to get dusted off and voted on. I also think they might try and get some sort of legal procedure against Bush and Cheney.....their own exuberance will be their downfall. Tearing the country in half, bringing up crazy ideas, and having President Rubberstamp in office will make for a messy display.

775 JSK1121  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:27:59am

G'morning everyone, and greetings from a gorgeous fall day from our Nation's capital. It can be beautiful now just as long as it rains all over the country on November 4. I've heard Democratic voter turnout suffers immensely when it rains. Just sayin'.

776 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:28:15am

re: #746 HoosierHoops

Well..I don't think good will hunted promoted christian values..At least not that i could tell..I liked the part where matt almost gets in a fight in a bar with the Harvard dude that thinks he is so smart...

I am not a Christian, but don't Christian values include pulling for the underdog, promoting excellence and realizing one's potential?

777 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:28:24am

re: #752 onlyNYneocon

Dont know if this has been mentioned, but last night on the news (fox, Greta) heard a McCain spokesperson say that the Rev Wright story might make a comeback.

Apparently, McCain has been insisting since the primary season, not to bring him up. His handlers have been urging him to "scorch the earth" He is now said to be considering it since he and Palin have been compared to Wallace and the klan.

Look for his name to be popping up at rallies in a town near you! (it's about time, if you ask me.)

"scorch the earth" is a bit of a strecth.

Wright has always been a legitimate issue. The only thing that will be scorched is McCain's boddy-buddy relationships in the Senate. Who cares about that.

778 right_on_target  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:04am

re: #713 realwest

Did y'all hear about the pizza shop which is giving away one (1) free pizza to anyone who comes in with a McCain/Palin sign? Yep, woman owner (who was wearing an Obama pin) said since McCain has given up on Michigan, Michigan should give up on him.
When asked if she wasn't providing incentives for people to steal McCain/Palin signs from other people's lawns and all she just shrugged and said "No we're saying if you bring in YOUR McCain/Palin sign, we're not encouraging folks to steal other people's property."
And of course Fox or the MSM being what they are no one bothered to ask her how many people is she gonna have to lay off if Obama becomes president.
Among other questions that they could have asked.


_________________________
If someone would put their name on their own McCain sign [ID it]. Have it stolen
and later get retrieved at the pizza shop, I think charges could be brought up for "fencing" stolen items.

779 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:12am

re: #710 CommonCents

Yesterday I read a good article on Russia, Iran, and Venezuelas' budgets. They have been arrogant bullies with oil over $100. They have based their national budgets on oil priced at $70. Today is an extraordinarily good day.

Nymex Crude Future 69.46

and it keeps getting better

Nymex Crude Future 68.79

780 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:21am

re: #775 JSK1121

G'morning everyone, and greetings from a gorgeous fall day from our Nation's capital. It can be beautiful now just as long as it rains all over the country on November 4. I've heard Democratic voter turnout suffers immensely when it rains. Just sayin'.

You live in Richmond?

*rimshot*

781 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:32am

re: #769 aussiemagpie

Well, we're having a bit of winter weather here - it was snowing in the Blue Mountains just west of Sydney

This global warming must be stopped - bring on the carbon tax - that should do it!

Yes our own Dear Leader is bringing in this tax in 2010

The Sun creates Carbon.. If we could just get it to stop..everything would be peachy..
I've got a funny story to tell you sometime about what some aussies and I did in Hawaii once... I'd call you guys crazy..But i helped..LOL

782 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:35am

re: #767 Vergeltung

that concept may be beyond the reach of that particular poster.

Yeah, well, I tried. I honestly believe some people have never sought and therefore have never received a coherent retort to a criticism of conservative values.

Although my kids might consider me like the Taliban for censoring their movies and making them wear those burqas.

783 shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:43am

re: #775 JSK1121

G'morning everyone, and greetings from a gorgeous fall day from our Nation's capital. It can be beautiful now just as long as it rains all over the country on November 4. I've heard Democratic voter turnout suffers immensely when it rains. Just sayin'.

Mother Nature must be a typical white person

784 JSK1121  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:29:52am

re: #777 DeafDog

"scorch the earth" is a bit of a strecth.

Wright has always been a legitimate issue. The only thing that will be scorched is McCain's boddy-buddy relationships in the Senate. Who cares about that.

After Obama refused to refute the Wallace comparison, I'd say EVERYTHING is fair game for the good guys. Wright, Khalidi, Rezko, Pfleger, Odinga, The One's impoverished brother, EVERYONE.

785 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:30:24am

Several counties in ALA. have more registered voters than actual voters living in the county.
Last election we had a Democrat election official that thought it would be funny to stuff the ballot box with 500+ extra votes for a Democrat county official.
She did it in front of a witness.

An FBI friend of mine looked over the votes and registrations and took the evidence against her.

She got 20 years- but is serving 5 in the Raleigh state pen.

Acorn,
fair warning,
if they catch your ass in NC you will be doing deep knee bends in the showers at the state pen.

786 smokefire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:31:10am

re: #783 shug

Mother Nature must be a typical white person

.........and if it did would the left try to file suit against Mother Nature and charge she is a racist?

Just thought I would ask this.

787 bcgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:31:26am

re: #737 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

McCain rally in NH?

Obama rally in NH a day or so ago.

/This at a time when VA is teetering on the brink? I say you are seeing the internals right there... if they are fighting for those few EVs then, you have to admit that VA is not that shakey. Either that, or both campaigns have lost their minds.


well Sarah was here yesterday and last night on the local news they said that Barak will be back again in Nevada for the 19th time on Saturday,, both in So and NO NEV, i thought he was going to Maui,,any way when the McCain campaing called this evening, they had not heard obama was comming back on saturday, the guy was very happy to tell his boss, I cannot believe BHO has been here 18 times before,,, got him scared maybe

788 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:31:29am

Recently, McCain spent a day in Minnesota, a State hell lose by double digits no matter what.

/and he picked up the "Obama would be a good President" gaffe here to boot

789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:31:48am

Gotta run... play nice Lizards... find some good rocks in the sun to bathe on...

790 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:31:56am

re: #756 Knitwit I like Myrick too, but have no idea what her chances of re-election are!
BTW, when you get the chance, please check your e-mail!

791 HoosierHoops  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:32:16am

re: #776 sparrowlake

I am not a Christian, but don't Christian values include pulling for the underdog, promoting excellence and realizing one's potential?

Well I know we do that in Sports..But in Church? I dunno..I thought it was all about love thy neighbor and stuff..
/Guess I'm the wrong person to ask....

792 smokefire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:32:16am

re: #789 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

VET, be safe out there.

793 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:33:56am

re: #786 smokefire

Then it'll rain a bit differently afterward...

/**I move away from the keyboard to crack my knuckles

794 aussiemagpie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:35:19am

re: #781 HoosierHoops

The Sun creates Carbon.. If we could just get it to stop..everything would be peachy..
I've got a funny story to tell you sometime about what some aussies and I did in Hawaii once... I'd call you guys crazy..But i helped..LOL

Share the story sometime....like now? :-)

My favourite Hawaii story - scraping the side of the rental car (only a teeny weeny scratch) while trying to keep to the wrong side while going over a very narrow bridge around Waimea Bay - sweaty palms didn't help

795 smokefire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:35:29am

re: #793 laZardo

sorry 30 seconds was all I could stand.

796 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:36:10am

re: #762 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret) Uh, y'all don't live in Michigan, do you?!
That seriously sucks - I've had Republican friends over the years suggesting we steal Kerry signs or Gore signs and have admonished them all the same way: too many folks have given too damn much for us to have Freedom of Speech, do your protesting at the voting booth. I still think that's great advice (though if we had a McCain Palin sign up (we don't have a "yard" per se) and someone stole it, I'd be more than a little pissed off!

797 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:36:12am

Had a dream last night that it was the night of Nov. 4. A couple of people and I were watching a real time counter of votes on TV. McCain was up 148,000 to 146,000.

798 bosforus[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:37:02am
799 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:37:05am

re: #776 sparrowlake

I am not a Christian, but don't Christian values include pulling for the underdog, promoting excellence and realizing one's potential?

It not the what....but the HOW those values you mentioned are promoted. To liberals, pulling for the underdog can mean taking opportunities away from someone else in order to promote their idea of an underdog. Humanism can condone promoting excellence in one area at the expense of balance of family life.

How many movies are there that champion the woman who leaves her family to "find herself" "promote herself" "realize her potential" but at the expense of her young children and marriage? Many. Especially on lifetime.

"Do what's right for you," is Oprah's mantra. The word sacrifice, a Christian concept, is often used as a pejorative in Oprah's liberal circles.

800 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:37:12am

re: #769 aussiemagpie
HEY! That's not a shark, that's one of the Bank's lawyers! LOL!

801 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:37:15am

A little bit of idolatry, anyone? Yikes!

802 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:37:47am

re: #760 DistantThunder

U betcha!

I wonder what their two, natural children are like. It'd be a kick if either is Republican.

803 Beach Lover  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:38:04am

re: #752 onlyNYneocon

I heard it hadn't brought it up because of offending any AA that might be considering joining him, Powell for one. I don't know how bringing it back up will help at this point. Everyone has seen/heard this already, and the Dims will say it shows McCain is desperate if he is bringing him up again. I do think McCain is losing a golden opportunity to "bring the message of Obama's character" into a tidy little point. The man is who he is because of who he admires and what he has done in his life. And it stinks to high heaven for America.

804 shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:38:35am

re: #801 Spenser (with an S)

A little bit of idolatry, anyone? Yikes!

BBIAM.

gotta go barf

805 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:38:37am

re: #742 DistantThunder

Everyone self-censors - do you watch the thousands of movies put out every year? I didn't think so. I make an educated choice of where I want to pro-actively pursue the news - i don't want it force-fed to me via NBCCBSABCPBS. Or movies force-fed to me via HBO. What's the point of movie reviews if not to help us to choose what we want to watch.

I don't think the Taliban were trying to be helpful to people. They were taking away individual choice - while I am exercising and epitomizing individual choice.

I am all for individual choice and parental responsibility - including limiting what young children are allowed to watch at the movies, on TV or on the Internet.
But when you boycott actors or musicians merely because of their political views, regardless of the merits of their work product, then you are on the slippery slope into intolerance and the realm of McCarthyism.
Each movie, song or work of art deserves to be judged on its own merits, regardless of the politics of the artist.

806 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:38:43am

re: #762 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Reasonable until I found out one of my two McCain signs was stolen. Now I'm just pissed off.

The Kid's teacher's McCain/Palin sign keeps on being stolen and replaced with a BHO sign.

807 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:39:08am

re: #763 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Mandy! Hope today finds you well and in good spirits..

It does. And, you?

808 eon  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:39:12am

re: #785 ibmkeyboard

Good morning Lizards.

People today (especially "progressives") tend to forget that between the mid- Fifties (when they were busy rounding up Soviet spies- cf. Colonel Rudolf Abel), and the late Sixties (when they were busy being stymied at every turn trying to round up prototype domestic terrorists like the SD and Weathermen), the Bureau's main focus was election fraud, notably in the South, while the Civil Rights movement was underway going back to the Truman and Eisenhower Administrations. Not all of it was racially motivated; a lot of it (notably here in the MidWest) was basically old-time "political machines" engaged in business as usual. It still happens that way here in Ohio today.

The reason you won't hear this factoid on the nightly news is that the majority of the "machines" that see this as the correct way to win (because it works) are Democratic, not Republican.

The political hacks who think that the FBI doesn't have a clue how to stop them may find out the hard way how wrong they are.

/it's called "institutional memory"

cheers

eon

809 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:39:16am

I was watching NY1's program'Inside City Hall' last night and a Rev. from a traditional black Church here in NYC... Host Dominic Carter aked him if h has heard abotu voter suppression in Ohio... He said, of course, the 'other side' is pulling out every stop to suppress the vote in all the swing states through intimidation... He said he would be encouraging his followers to watch evreything closely as the 'other side' was planning making sure that if Obama wins, there is doubt in there...

Racism? Nah...

810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:39:22am

re: #803 Beach Lover

I
heard it hadn't brought it up because of offending any AA that might be
considering joining him, Powell for one.

General Powell is an alcoholic? Might explain why he's voting for The One.
/

811 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:39:46am

re: #806 MandyManners

The Kid's teacher's McCain/Palin sign keeps on being stolen and replaced with a BHO sign.

/relax and enjoy it

812 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:40:02am

re: #776 sparrowlake

I am not a Christian, but don't Christian values include pulling for the underdog, promoting excellence and realizing one's potential?



Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they shall possess the earth.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice,
for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are they who suffer persecution for justice sake,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

There may be some mention of the underdog there, but the "be all you can be" stuff is of more modern origin.

813 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:40:06am

re: #767 Vergeltung

that concept may be beyond the reach of that particular poster.

Screw off, you arrogant twit.

814 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:40:18am

re: #774 Desert Dog

You mean President Government...

And I think the Obama-bots have already torn the country in half...

815 Spider Mensch  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:40:21am

hmmm...just reading thru this thread...was I in a coma and woke up on Nov 5th?...McCain has lost?...hmmm last I knew it was only Oct 22nd...wow, must have been one big clunk on the head that got me...so according to the majority here, obama has won?..hmmm glad I missed it...funny my computer says its Oct 22nd too? must be some glitch in the hard ware...do I nee a / tag? wake up lizards! it's not over yet!

816 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:41:00am

re: #725 sparrowlake

You are the one who said you self-censor movies that do not promote "Christian values". Earlier, you said you self-censor movies which feature actors with whose politics you disagree.

The Taliban censor anything that does not promote "Islamist values" and they silence those who disagree with their politics.
Can't you see why they are applauding?
How ironic.

BTW, didn't Matt Damon's Good Will Hunting promote Christian values?

What in the world?!

Where does DT say she censors what others see?

817 smokefire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:41:15am

[Link: www.courant.com...]

NC Police Chief's job just got a little harder.

818 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:41:16am

re: #785 ibmkeyboard
Good morning my friend - Yea, FBI! Love hearing stories like that one!
I hope they nail all of those ACORN mofo's - ALL OF 'EM.
How are you doing today?

819 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:42:55am

So I wandered around my local Borders Bookstore yesterday to kill some time before a doctor's appointment & they had a big election display - 1 aisle cap was all books on or by Obama, another aisle cap was books about Michelle Obama, other black politicians & the civil rights movement & the last aisle cap was books about McCain - half of which were anti-McCain books.

820 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:43:18am

re: #812 Pullus Iulius

re: #776 sparrowlake

As the person described in my avatar desc, that sort of thing is best summed up in the Christian-written "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."

821 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:44:02am

re: #815 Spider Mensch

hmmm...just reading thru this thread...was I in a coma and woke up on Nov 5th?...McCain has lost?...hmmm last I knew it was only Oct 22nd...wow, must have been one big clunk on the head that got me...so according to the majority here, obama has won?..hmmm glad I missed it...funny my computer says its Oct 22nd too? must be some glitch in the hard ware...do I nee a / tag? wake up lizards! it's not over yet!

/you'd best be ready to pull a miracle out of your ass, because it's going to be required

822 Knitwit  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:44:02am

re: #728 NC State of Mind
McCrory is polling better than anyone expected.

823 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:44:03am

re: #819 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So I wandered around my local Borders Bookstore yesterday to kill some time before a doctor's appointment & they had a big election display - 1 aisle cap was all books on or by Obama, another aisle cap was books about Michelle Obama, other black politicians & the civil rights movement & the last aisle cap was books about McCain - half of which were anti-McCain books.

But it's Philly... You have to expect that...

824 eon  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:44:07am

re: #796 realwest

Uh, y'all don't live in Michigan, do you?!
That seriously sucks - I've had Republican friends over the years suggesting we steal Kerry signs or Gore signs and have admonished them all the same way: too many folks have given too damn much for us to have Freedom of Speech, do your protesting at the voting booth. I still think that's great advice (though if we had a McCain Palin sign up (we don't have a "yard" per se) and someone stole it, I'd be more than a little pissed off!

Mine was stolen day before yesterday. I walked down to local Republican HQ (about four blocks down the street) and got two more- the spare is in my front hall, just in case.

The HQ had a security guard sitting quite prominently in the office, visible from the street through the front window (storefront setup). This is the first time I've ever seen that.

The people inside told me that they have plenty of signs to replace stolen ones (more than they've ever needed before) but not enough volunteers to take them out to the folks.

They also agreed that this was the most mean-spirited campaign they've ever seen.

BTW, when they stole my McCain/Palin sign they left the one for the GOP candidate for the U.S. House, right next to it, alone. Go figure.

cheers

eon

825 smokefire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:44:50am

re: #819 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So I wandered around my local Borders Bookstore yesterday to kill some time before a doctor's appointment & they had a big election display - 1 aisle cap was all books on or by Obama, another aisle cap was books about Michelle Obama, other black politicians & the civil rights movement & the last aisle cap was books about McCain - half of which were anti-McCain books.

................and after McCain wins all those Obama books will be in the dollar store, or at your local flea market for less than a dollar/better offer

826 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:45:00am

re: #805 sparrowlake

I am all for individual choice and parental responsibility - including limiting what young children are allowed to watch at the movies, on TV or on the Internet.
But when you boycott actors or musicians merely because of their political views, regardless of the merits of their work product, then you are on the slippery slope into intolerance and the realm of McCarthyism.
Each movie, song or work of art deserves to be judged on its own merits, regardless of the politics of the artist.

Just where does DT say she's forcing others to not attend certain movies?

827 laZardo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:45:30am

re: #819 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I used to hang out at Borders when I lived in Sacramento back in '04-'06, including the '04 election season. Mostly I just skipped those type of displays and went straight for the anime/manga section. =D

828 Spider Mensch  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:45:33am

re: #821 Killian Bundy

/you'd best be ready to pull a miracle out of your ass, because it's going to be required


exactly my point. thanks for proving it!...sometimes you miss the best part of the game when you leave the stadium early.

829 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:45:42am

re: #825 smokefire

................and after McCain wins all those Obama books will be in the dollar store, or at your local flea market for less than a dollar/better offer

But if the polling is correct, they will be the new national textbooks and required reading...

830 DistantThunder  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:45:50am

re: #805 sparrowlake

I am all for individual choice and parental responsibility - including limiting what young children are allowed to watch at the movies, on TV or on the Internet.
But when you boycott actors or musicians merely because of their political views, regardless of the merits of their work product, then you are on the slippery slope into intolerance and the realm of McCarthyism.
Each movie, song or work of art deserves to be judged on its own merits, regardless of the politics of the artist.

That's absurd. I cannot enjoy the movie if I am so distracted by the image of that actor as the public persona they have deliberately developed as a political activist. I can't watch Sean Penn in anything, because he is so notorious for his extreme activism that it is a distraction on the screen. I feel the same way about George Clooney, his public persona doesn't fade away for me anymore. And Julia Roberts - and many more.

And why would I knowingly put money in the pockets of actors whose admitted agenda is to agitate and work against my core Christian Values? I'm thinking here of Brad Pitt giving 5 million dollars to Prop 8 in California which is a proposition I support.

831 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:45:58am

re: #811 Killian Bundy

/relax and enjoy it

*whack*

832 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:46:05am