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Ayers' New Book: America is a White Supremacist Nation

Politics | Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15:04 am PDT

Former Weather Underground terrorists (and Barack Obama associates) William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn have a new book coming out; showing how much they love their country, the theme of the book is that the dominant political system in the United States is white supremacism: Amazon.com: Race Course Against White Supremacy: William C. Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn: Books.

White supremacy and its troubling endurance in American life is debated in these personal essays by two veteran political activists. Arguing that white supremacy has been the dominant political system in the United States since its earliest days—and that it is still very much with us—the discussion points to unexamined bigotry in the criminal justice system, election processes, war policy, and education. The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era, reasserts their belief that racism and war are interwoven issues, and offers personal stories about their lives today as parents, teachers, and reformers.

About the Author
William C. Ayers is a distinguished professor of education and a senior university scholar at the University of Illinois–Chicago. He is the author of To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher and Fugitive Days, a memoir about his life with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn. Bernardine Dohrn is the director of the Children and Family Law Justice Center and a clinical associate professor of law at Northwestern University. She is the coauthor of A Century of Juvenile Justice and Justice in the Making. They live in Chicago.

(Hat tip: JammieWearingFool.)

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1 victor_yugo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:16:26am

Fine. Let Ayers be the first to turn himself in for a hate crime.

Hypocritical asshole.

2 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:16:40am

Someone send this to the McCain campaign!

3 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:16:42am

Thank you, Bill! You managed to stay out of the spotlight during Barry's campaign but with less than two weeks to go, you gone done & published this!
/Rove, you magnificent bastard!

4 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:16:53am

Get used to me being your co-ruler for the next eight years!

5 maddogg  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:00am

Why is Bill Ayers still around then?

6 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:05am

"veteran political activists?" Oy.

7 P. Aaron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:20am

Will Obama review it?

8 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:21am

If Obama wins this election, will that not disprove the thesis of their book?

9 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:28am

I fear Liberal Supremacy.

It is very real and very vengeful. We have a century of genocide behind us perpetrated by leftists.

10 SpartanWoman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:30am

Naturally the MSM will ignore this and campus pols will make it required reading, infact HS teachers will demand parents read it and write a book report

11 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:36am

re: #4 HugoChavez

Get used to me being your co-ruler for the next eight years!

Only 8? That's not the Hugo (or Barry) I knew!

12 sealizard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:50am

Did Obama write a glowing endorsement on the dust cover?

13 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:50am
The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era, reasserts their belief that racism and war are interwoven issues, and offers personal stories about their lives today as parents, teachers, and

Confrontations like bombing the Pentagon?

14 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:17:55am

And the MSM can't figure out why the association with Obama is an issue?

15 maddogg  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:07am

I'm now waiting for Obama's glowing review.

16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:17am

Anyone want to take one for the team & buy a copy & see if he mentions The One in it?

17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:20am

Ayers and Dohrn can roast in hell

18 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:23am

re: #8 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama wins this election, will that not disprove the thesis of their book?

Actually, it now gives "us" the power and license to begin the purges!

Bwahahahaha!

19 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:25am

You know, it's bad enough that this *sshole is an unrepentant terrorist, but I think what really pisses me off about him is the fact that he thinks he's qualified to tell me what to think when he hasn't done an honest day's work in his entire miserable life.

20 poison ivy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:40am

Just watch how the moonbats will turn this around, referring to the book as "honest" and "profound" and calling us bigoted racists for failing to see ourselves as white supremacists.

21 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:44am

Where's BHO's blurb?

22 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:18:51am

re: #8 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama wins this election, will that not disprove the thesis of their book?

No. Because people still will have voted for McCain. All of them will need to be re-educated.

And Bil Ayers specializes in education

23 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:19:02am
Arguing that white supremacy has been the dominant political system in the United States since its earliest days—and that it is still very much with us—the discussion points to unexamined bigotry in the criminal justice system, election processes, war policy, and education.

Yep- that's why ron paul did so well.

24 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:19:13am

re: #11 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Eight for Barry...

the next twenty five for ME.

25 Onslow  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:19:38am

"The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era "

Obfuscation of the year

26 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:19:39am

re: #17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ayers and Dohrn can roast in hell

At least they'll get to meet Lucifer, the "first radical" to whom Saul Alinsky dedicated his seminal book.

27 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:20:09am

re: #13 loppyd

Confrontations like bombing the Pentagon?

nah. that was Civil Restiveness'
Confrontations occured when negotiating $$$ for his first book

28 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:20:12am
Arguing that white supremacy has been the dominant political system in the United States since its earliest days—and that it is still very much with us—the discussion points to unexamined bigotry in the criminal justice system, election processes, war policy, and education.

That's why stormfront is mainstream.

29 jcm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:20:19am

About the Author
William C. Ayers is a distinguished professor of education and a senior university scholar at the University of Illinois–Chicago unrepetent terrorist. He is the author of To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher and Fugitive Days, a memoir about his life with his wife The subversion of America Through Education, Bernardine Dohrn. Bernardine Dohrn is the director of the Children and Family Law Justice Center and a clinical associate professor of law at Northwestern University Another Domestic Terrorist. She is the coauthor of A Century of Juvenile Justice and Justice in the Making Marxism. They live in Chicago.

30 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:20:21am

re: #7 P. Aaron

Will Obama review it?

Why, that's exactly the question I asked.

Thanks for the link, Charles.

31 Onibroc  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:20:46am

Just. Wow.

I mean, really. How does this book even warrant publishing? Or is Bill going to try to claim that Barry's just a "House Negro"?

32 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:21:22am
The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era, reasserts their belief that racism and war are interwoven issues, and offers personal stories about their lives today as parents, teachers, and reformers.


I remember reading some of the anarchy websites with such pertinent reading as what to do to protect your children when you take them to protests. Sickos.

33 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:21:33am

Yeah, this will go over really well with the bitter/clingy folks in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Keep that Ayers name out there, and keep making the Obama-Ayers connection, McCain/Palin campaign! Connect those dots!

34 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:21:38am

Great! I don't get a zionist conspiracy check, so I could really use a white supremacy bonus. Where do I sign up?

35 poison ivy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:21:41am

re: #16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Anyone want to take one for the team & buy a copy & see if he mentions The One in it?

I won`t waste good beer money on it, but I`m willing to check it out of the library - does that work?

36 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:22:09am

re: #16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Anyone want to take one for the team & buy a copy & see if he mentions The One in it?

I'm not doing it; You do it.

37 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:22:37am

Just in time to influence the election!

Are these people braindead, or (merely) self-righteous?

38 jaunte  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:22:41am

Another example of Alinsky tactics. Any discrepancy of income, standing, education, ad infinitum in society can be turned into evidence of "supremacy" of the haves, and used as a weapon against them.

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)


[Link: www.geocities.com...]

39 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:22:53am

re: #36 J.D.

I'm not doing it; You do it.

Let's get Mikey to do it - he'll read anything! Hey Mikey!

40 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:22:56am

The University of Nebraska College of Education had invited Ayres to speak at an education conference in mid-November.

Parents of college kids threatened to pull their kids out of school. People contacted the governor's office to complain. The OpEd columns were full of complaining pieces. The university president's office was deluged with calls and emails.

Ayres was disinvited! The nominal reason for the retraction of the invitation was "security issues".

41 BigJohn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:22:58am

I admit that I'm a racist. I hate white liberals.

42 jcm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:23:02am

re: #37 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Your tongue okay?
;-P

43 Charles  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:23:09am

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44 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:23:11am

re: #31 Onibroc

Trying .... hard ... not ... to .... say ... something ... and .... be .... banned.

45 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:23:16am

re: #36 J.D.

I'm not doing it; You do it.

I'm not doing it. Mikey can do it.

46 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:09am

Because white supremacist nations always nominate brown people as their leaders. It totally fools everyone! Genius.

47 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:10am

re: #24 HugoChavez

Eight for Barry...

the next twenty five for ME.

MEOW!

48 maddogg  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:33am

Obama's good buddies seem to give him their undying loyalty. Ayers has all of the concern that this will hurt Zero as da good revrund Wright did while he kept runnin' his yap.

49 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:39am

re: #44 unreconstructed rebel

Trying .... hard ... not ... to .... say ... something ... and .... be .... banned.

I know the feeling.

Bill Ayres, go fuck yourself.

50 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:42am

The title could also be:
Keeping racism alive by mining for victims and imaginary grievances.

51 Onibroc  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:43am

re: #44 unreconstructed rebel

What? That's what they called Colin Powell. Why wouldn't they say the same thing about their BFF?

THE NARRATIVE MUST BE DEFENDED!

52 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:24:56am

re: #43 Charles

Remember to use the 'Share This' button to spread articles like this around...

You got it, Chief! Buzzzzzzzzz, too!

53 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:01am

re: #27 Eowyn2

nah. that was Civil Restiveness'
Confrontations occured when negotiating $$$ for his first book

But I thought he was against capitalism?

54 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:05am

re: #47 MandyManners

MEOW!

That's a people's revolutionary kitty you know.

55 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:09am

America is a White Supremacist Nation about to elect a Black Man President

/ the full title

Ayers, you moron

56 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:21am

subtitle

What happens when old radical hippies approach full blown senility

57 shanimal1918  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:37am

All your "America is a White Supremacist Nation" are belong to us

58 uncle_monkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:37am

re: #7 P. Aaron

Will Obama review it?

Ayers will probably ghost-write the forward by Obama at least.

59 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:46am

re: #8 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama wins this election, will that not disprove the thesis of their book?

Only at a superficial level. Obama's career says that he agrees with Ayer's thesis.

60 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:47am

re: #39 Intrepid

Let's get Mikey to do it - he'll read anything! Hey Mikey!

re: #45 Eowyn2

I'm not doing it. Mikey can do it.

lol
exactly!

61 warlord  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:51am

When the Hell is everone going to realize that the MSM, media what ever the hell you call them are the enemy.
They are traitors pure and simple assisting in the overthrow of our republic.

The are using their power of free speech to destroy our Bill of Rights.
Just leaving out the other side is not just bias. These are not isolated incidents. They have been distorting, lying etc. for years.

They have obligations just like we do. Truth is sacrosanct in our Republic.

The msm are obligated to present all the facts, when they do not they are an enemy that deserves to be stamped out.

62 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:25:55am

About the Author

William C. Ayers is a distinguished professor

SPIT !

63 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:26:07am

re: #49 Honorary Yooper

re: #51 Onibroc

I got it! George Soros' Sock Puppet.

64 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:26:25am

re: #39 Intrepid

Let's get Mikey to do it - he'll read anything! Hey Mikey!

Mikey won't get to do anything until it's published next June. The publisher is Third World Press. I'd suggest a boycott but I doubt they've published anything worth reading.

65 jjag  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:26:28am

Naturally, Obama had little or no relationship with Ayers, someone utterly and completely enraptured with the notion that all of America is racist.

Ayers would never seek to embrace an ambitious, bright and eloquent young black politician to support and influence.

Why would he bother? It would only be the fulfillment of his life's dream; a supremely powerful and GRATEFUL, BLACK, ally who was significantly beholden (if not actually subject to blackmail) to Ayers.

66 Octohedron[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:26:31am
67 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:26:35am

re: #47 MandyManners

MEOW!


okay that has been a permanent fixture on my computer for three years now.

68 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:26:49am

Reparations will cure that White Supremacism...

Now if they can only find a candidate who can make it happen...

WAKE UP IDIOTS!

69 FrogMarch  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:12am

The other title:
When racism is alive, left-wing fascists can slip through the back door.

70 Tumulus11  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:14am
'The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era, reasserts their belief that racism and war are interwoven issues, and offers personal stories about their lives today as parents, teachers, and reformers.'

. The book may be light on personal stories from surviving family members of the Brinks guard and two police officers murdered by the Weather Underground Oct. 20, 1981.

71 jill e  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:21am

Besides body count, the only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is extreme left vs. extreme right.

72 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:27am

re: #66 Octohedron

Wow...to bad he can't be charged as an enemy combatant and locked away without a trial.

A distinguished professor? Imprisoned?! How absurd!

73 wahabicorridor  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:34am

Via Glenn

This is Tim Noah's 2001 review of Ayer's Fugitive Days.

It is scathing.

Chatterbox isn't sure he's ever read a memoir quite so self-indulgent and morally clueless as Fugitive Days. (He's certainly never before read one festooned with glowing blurbs from respectable folk like Scott Turow--"a gripping personal account.") "Memory is a motherfucker," begins Ayers, establishing the book's literary tone and unreliability in one compact sentence. Throughout Fugitive Days, Ayers reminds his readers that he's had to omit or change many facts throughout his narrative because they describe actions on his part that are, well, illegal.

Radical Chic Resurgent

74 ratso  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:38am

well thats the ayers punch, rumor has it there will be a wright punch next week. whats nobama to do?

75 x-wing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:41am

re: #16 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Anyone want to take one for the team & buy a copy & see if he mentions The One in it?

I'm usually up for anything. But not this one.

76 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:27:42am

re: #68 tfc3rid

Reparations will cure that White Supremacism...

Now if they can only find a candidate who can make it happen...

WAKE UP IDIOTS!

Exactly.....bwahahahahahaha!

Hey George, free mojitos for the MSM at the palace today!

77 victor_yugo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:28:17am

re: #62 Shug

William C. Ayers is a distinguished disgruntled professor

Fixed.

78 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:28:18am

re: #42 jcm

Your tongue okay?
;-P

Sorry. ... don't get it.

/in the mean time ... bllbbllmpymp

79 cblesz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:28:20am

Drudge is a tool. I know off topix, but anytime a poll (AP, most unlikely) shows the race even...it is a "SHOCK POLL". Oy...

80 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:28:40am

US Secretary of re-Education, William Ayers....

81 rightwinger3  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:28:54am

OT: Don't know if this has already been posted. MM's Photo of the Day.

82 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:28:56am

re: #43 Charles

Remember to use the 'Share This' button to spread articles like this around...

I've done my part. Now let's hope it's spreading...

There's that word again: hope.

83 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:09am

New AP poll of likely voters:
obama 44%
McCain 43%

84 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:12am

re: #80 Ringo the Gringo

US Secretary of re-Education, William Ayers....

He's gonna have to find me, first.

85 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:17am

re: #54 HugoChavez

That's a people's revolutionary kitty you know.

Yeah, and we're The People.

86 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:27am
87 jcm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:34am

re: #78 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Last thread you were biting it..........

88 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:37am

Remember, this man killed Brian V. McDonnell, maimed others, and the only thing that kept them from mass murder was the Ft. Dix bomb blowing up 'prematurely' (right on time, if you ask me).

Because a bomb filled with nails and destined for a dance was not just a "political statement." It was meant to rip through human flesh, like the one that killed McDonnell.

89 wright1  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:44am

This book could not be any more irrelevant and out of sync with the times. If elected, it will be the whites who elect him. Moreover, most of his white base do not just support him, they are worshipping him.

I hope however that this useful idiot can continue to alienate white independants by bringing them to McCain.

90 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:29:52am

re: #56 Eowyn2

subtitle

What happens when old radical hippies approach full blown senility

He's not senile. He knows what he's doing!

91 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:30:01am

re: #83 newsjunkie_ky

New AP poll of likely voters:
obama 44%
McCain 43%

Please tell Real Clear Politics. That place is toooooo depressing.

92 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:30:04am

re: #85 MandyManners

Yeah, and we're The People.

Yes, my dear, the people about to be rounded up for "re-education."

93 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:30:37am

re: #53 loppyd

But I thought he was against capitalism?

yes, I'm sure he has given all his $$$ to charity and now its really tough to get the 500 or so guests into his hovel for political launches.
Such a good, giving, man

94 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:30:38am

I wish somebody would get David Horowitz on television to talk about this guy. He's the one to whom Ayers said, "Guilty as hell, free as a bird". He has interviewed Ayers extensively, and he's brilliant - I want to hear what he has to say.

95 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:30:49am

Well shit. They don't mention either Billy or Bernadine's "adventures" in bombing that left one police office dead and another blinded for life so I don't need to read the damn book, even if I were inclined to to so so.
I will however point out to these two intellectual midgets that White People have been in the Majority in this nation for well over 150 years (and yes that includes First Americans, a/k/a/ Native Americans) and still constitute well over 70% of our Nation.
So the idea that the US is "White Oriented" shouldn't come as a shock to them.
That White America has done as much if not more (killing 600,000 WHITE AMERICANS in our Civil War Alone to free Black Americans) to provide as much aid and assistance to non- whites here AND abroad is to our credit.
Ayers and Dorhn, OTOH, who have inherited most of their wealth and enjoy "gettin' wiggy" in their Chicago Manison) simply don't grasp that point. It is, as I've said, beyond their intellectual capabilities.

96 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:30:57am

re: #67 Eowyn2

okay that has been a permanent fixture on my computer for three years now.

It's a nifty kitty!

97 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:31:03am

re: #83 newsjunkie_ky

New AP poll of likely voters:
obama 44%
McCain 43%

Statistical dead heat.

98 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:31:19am

re: #94 capitalist piglet

I wish somebody would get David Horowitz on television to talk about
this guy. He's the one to whom Ayers said, "Guilty as hell, free as a
bird". He has interviewed Ayers extensively, and he's brilliant - I
want to hear what he has to say.

Ditto. I was thinking the same thing earlier today.

99 ratso  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:31:55am

re: #61 warlord

When the Hell is everone going to realize that the MSM, media what ever the hell you call them are the enemy.
They are traitors pure and simple assisting in the overthrow of our republic.

The are using their power of free speech to destroy our Bill of Rights.
Just leaving out the other side is not just bias. These are not isolated incidents. They have been distorting, lying etc. for years.

They have obligations just like we do. Truth is sacrosanct in our Republic.

The msm are obligated to present all the facts, when they do not they are an enemy that deserves to be stamped out.

and thats the other part of the manifesto, newsprint

100 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:31:56am

re: #92 HugoChavez

Yes, my dear, the people about to be rounded up for "re-education."

Now, now....."reeducation" is deprecated language......the correct term is "service"!

101 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:01am

re: #84 unreconstructed rebel And he's gonna regret finding me, I assure you.

102 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:16am

re: #92 HugoChavez

Yes, my dear, the people about to be rounded up for "re-education."

By which army?

103 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:26am

"Bernardine Dohrn is the director of the Children and Family Law Justice Center and a clinical associate professor of law at Northwestern University."

Is it just me, or is calling Berardine Dohrn an "associate professor of law" a little like calling Charles Manson a "party planner"?

104 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:28am

Just for funsies, I ran an Amazon search for all books published by Third World Press. Here are the results.

I'm torn between ordering The Psychopathic Racial Personality and Other Essays by Bobby Wright or Chosen People from the Caucasus: Jewish Origins, Delusions, Deceptions and Historical Role in the Slave Trade, Genocide and Cultural Colonization by Michael Anderson Bradley

105 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:36am

re: #88 Silhouette

Remember, this man killed Brian V. McDonnell, maimed others, and the
only thing that kept them from mass murder was the Ft. Dix bomb blowing
up 'prematurely' (right on time, if you ask me).

Because a bomb
filled with nails and destined for a dance was not just a "political
statement." It was meant to rip through human flesh, like the one that
killed McDonnell.

He's no different that the Ft. Dix "Six" that are on trial now. Yet he's a respected member of the upper class & Governor Palin is "white trash."

106 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:45am

These white men died to free their black brothers and sisters.


Union dead at Gettysburg.


In their memory I solemnly curse Ayers and Dohrn.

107 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:49am

re: #80 Ringo the Gringo

US Secretary of re-Education, William Ayers....

It could happen. I have wondered whether Obama would re-unite himself with his old friends...the woman who had to resign because she called Hillary Clinton a "monster" expects to be included in an Obama administration, and that's frightening. She's a crazy fill-in-the-blank anti-Semite.

108 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:32:52am

re: #93 Eowyn2

yes, I'm sure he has given all his $$$ to charity and now its really tough to get the 500 or so guests into his hovel for political launches.
Such a good, giving, man

LOL

I could fit two of my houses into his.

109 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:33:02am

re: #87 jcm

Last thread you were biting it..........

OH!
Yeah.
That was about Walter Concrete, Vo Nguyen Giap's PR Director during the Tet Offensive.

110 NY Nana  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:33:10am

WTF is wrong with everybody?!?!?!?!?

At this point in the election, the delusional Obama pod people should have woken up. Now? I fear they will on November 5th, when the medication slipped into their veins reaches its' expiry date. Some seem to have OD'd already.

111 rightwinger3  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:33:13am

re: #101 realwest

And he's gonna regret finding me, I assure you.

With you there realwest, matter of fact I'll go looking for him instead.

112 jill e  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:33:19am
113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:33:39am

re: #102 MandyManners

By which army?

By Barry's Hope & Dignity Battalions, of course!

114 Stinky Beaumont  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:33:40am
115 maddogg  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:34:01am

re: #92 HugoChavez

Yes, my dear, the people about to be rounded up for "re-education."

Well, Hugo, I had enough trouble getting educated the first time. I don't think I'm gonna do it again.

116 Florida Lady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:34:06am

This is good news!

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

117 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:34:26am

re: #106 Ojoe

These white men died to free their black brothers and sisters.

Union dead at Gettysburg.

In their memory I solemnly curse Ayers and Dohrn.

I sincerely regret that I have but one upding to give for that.

118 SeafoodGumbo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:34:42am

Remembering a Sixties Terrorist

I felt comfortable with Bill. Throughout my life I had always had a friendly buddy-kind of connection with certain boys and felt that I was developing such a connection with him.

I remember going back to his attic apartment -- he describes it in his book Fugitive Days. He had a roommate -- a black man who was 23 and married with children. There was a couch, a table, a stereo and a sink in the room. There were two beds – Ayers’ and his roommate’s on each side of the attic wall. I slept with him there.

I came there a few times afterward to talk and to listen to his LPs. I especially loved Glen Yarbough’s album Come Share My Life. I met Bill’s roommate who also worked at the children’s school. I also met Bill’s younger brother Rick. Bill was a year older than I and his brother was a year younger. He spent a lot of time at Bill’s apartment.

Bill Ayers’ apartment was around the corner and a half a block away from the sorority house. The more time I spent there, the more out of place I felt with my sisters. Sometimes I would stop by just to keep from having to go back to a place I had begun to think of as boring. I guess it was one of those evenings -- maybe on the way back from the library, maybe just to get out of the sorority house, I don’t remember exactly. What I do recall is that when I was getting ready to leave Ayers told me I couldn’t go until I slept with his roommate and his brother. At this point Bill and I had slept together just once. I was sexually inexperienced, having had only one serious boyfriend with whom I had recently broken up.

At first I thought Ayers was joking. I got up; and went to the door. He moved quickly to block me at the doorway. He locked the door and put the chain on it. I went to the couch and sat down and told him that I had no intention of having sex with his roommate and his brother or him. He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black -- that I was a bigot. I had gone to school with black kids and had them as friends all my life. I couldn’t believe he was saying that to me

I felt trapped. I had to get out of the situation I was in and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed and put myself on it and he fucked me. I went totally out of my body. I floated beside myself on the outside and above the bed looking at this black stranger fuck me angrily while I hated myself.

After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.

I remember going back to the sorority house and talking to my best girlfriend and telling her what had happened. But there were no words yet to describe it. There was no term “date rape” yet in our political vocabulary. The notion of a psychological rape was not on the table.

119 CIA Reject  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:34:45am

re: #95 realwest

Spot-on RW! Children of priviledge who have never known any kind of responsibility have NO moral authority to tell anybody anything.

The ONLY thing they should say to the world is "Thank You" for the comfortable life that has been afforded them by others.

120 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:28am

Anyone have a link for that 44-43 poll? All these manufactured media polls today say Obama is "pulling away" and other such nonsense.

121 JohnAdams  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:30am

"The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era..."
"Confrontations?" You mean like when they were blowing people up? "Authorities?" You mean the police? The police who arrested him for blowing people up?
Talk about putting lipstick on a pig.

122 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:31am

re: #102 MandyManners

By which army?

Did you notice that my pal Vlad Putin had a new kitty for his birthday?

123 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:36am

Don't, of course, question their patriotism.
Don't question the patriotism of those who employ them to shape educators minds and methods, and don't question the patriotism of the people who promote their books, work, and goals by offering favorable book reccommendations.

Do they know what patriotism is? Really? Because either they are unpatriotic, they love a vile, wicked thing, or they are lying about what they think America is.
(Not talking about every or most dems, but those like Ayers, Chompsky, etc. Obama? Maybe, hard to tell.)

124 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:38am

re: #114 Stinky Beaumont

Digg it!

Dugg!

125 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:45am

So a white guy and a white chick are publishing "America is a White Supremacist Nation"

They will make a little coin in the process.

.....the irony is just too brilliant.

126 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:35:59am

re: #104 doppelganglander

-The Jews are descended from Neanderthals.
-The Jews are an aggressive, ruthless people who once fought with axes and clubs but today try to dominate the world and annihilate people of color via their control of corporate America, Wall Street, and the media.
-The Jews ran the African slave trade.
-The Spanish conquistadors who decimated Native Americans following the arrival of Columbus were mostly Jewish.
-In the American colonies, Jews started to import African slaves after they killed all the Indians and no longer had them available as slaves.
-In the American south, a higher percentage of Jewish families were slaveholders than non-Jewish families.
-European Jews have no historic connection to Israel, because they descended from pagans from the Caucasus who converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages and then enslaved the neighboring Slavic populations.
-The catering and security companies at Logan Airport may be Jewish-owned. That may be part of a conspiracy in which the September 11 attacks were staged as a pretext to wage war on people of color.

ALSO BOUGHT:

The Thirteenth Tribe.

127 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:10am

If, as they say, 'White Supremacy' was the dominant politicl system in America from the beginning - what about the European countries from which the first settlers arrived?
All 'White Supremacists', from the beginning, obviously.
That means all: Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Persians, the whole Mediterranean culture from the founding of the first cities in what is now Turkey.

So - are there any other 'supremacists? What about the Chinese, Japanese,Hindus?
What about the Azteks, Maya, Inkas?

Obviously, they don't count - because in order to be a true 'Supremacist', you have to be - White.
A more stupid and fallacious way of twisting history into thruthiness I have yet to see - and I don't need to read that book, the blurb is quite sufficient.

If thats the way Ayers and his wife educate your children, is it any wonder the B0 has such a following?

128 Opinionated  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:10am
William C. Ayers is a distinguished professor of education and a senior university scholar at the University of Illinois–Chicago.

Osama wants to know why he has to hide in a cave.

129 cwm3  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:15am

Follow the link in the post to Amazon's webpage for the book, then scroll down to "Customers Who Bought Items Like This Also Bought", where you will find a DVD entitled "Weather Underground", starring... Mao Tse-Tung.

It is impossible to make this stuff up...

130 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:22am

re: #100 eschew_obfuscation

Now, now....."reeducation" is deprecated language......the correct term is "service"!

My bad, sorry useful idiot Obama.

131 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:34am

Seriously, what IS the difference between Ayers and Dohrn and Charles Manson? Both spouted similar ideas about the evils of America, racism, coming race war, etc. Both took action and killed people.

One is in jail and we rightly consider the ultimate living evil. The other is buddies with the man about to be given the keys to the country.

132 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:35am

re: #103 subsailor68

"Bernardine Dohrn is the director of the Children and Family Law Justice Center and a clinical associate professor of law at Northwestern University."

Is it just me, or is calling Berardine Dohrn an "associate professor of law" a little like calling Charles Manson a "party planner"?

Is she the one who mentioned the Manson murders at a press conference or something, in glowing terms? She was a Susan Atkins wannabe, as I recall.

133 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:36:52am

re: #113 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

By Barry's Hope & Dignity Battalions, of course!

I'll shove their hope up their dignity.

134 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:37:08am

re: #6 Creeping Eruption

"veteran political activists?" Oy.

Makes you wonder if some day in Iraq they will call ex-Al Queda's "former radical activists."

135 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:37:11am

Has McCain spoken publicly about the rings that these two wear made out of melted-down American planes from Vietnam? I think that would be very emotional and very telling but I haven't heard much about it.

136 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:37:22am

re: #128 Opinionated

Osama wants to know why he has to hide in a cave.

He won't to when Barry rises to power... It will be the War on the 'Radical' Conservatives...

137 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:37:22am

Another day, another Obama-Acorn connection....

Gov. Deval Patrick has tie$ to embattled ACORN

Gov. Deval Patrick, a national co-chairman of Barack Obama’s presidential campaign, teamed up with the Illinois senator to represent the controversy-plagued activist network ACORN in a 1993 case and secured money for the group in this year’s state budget, the Herald has learned.

In 1993, Patrick, then a Department of Justice lawyer, and Obama, as a private civil rights lawyer, teamed up to represent ACORN in a successful suit that forced Illinois officials to implement the “motor voter” law, which allows people to register to vote when they get a driver’s license.

If you want to know what an Obama presidency would be like look no further than my home state of MA.

If you want to get very, very scared keep in mind he is a contender for Attorney General.

138 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:37:23am

re: #122 HugoChavez

Did you notice that my pal Vlad Putin had a new kitty for his birthday?

Can you imagine the outrage if Pres. Bush got such a beast?

139 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:38:31am

re: #121 JohnAdams

"The book draws upon the authors’ own confrontations with authorities during the Vietnam era..."
"Confrontations?" You mean like when they were blowing people up? "Authorities?" You mean the police? The police who arrested him for blowing people up?
Talk about putting lipstick on a pig.

Yes, murder and attempted murder are JUST LIKE Rosa Parks on that bus.

/supreme sarcasm

140 Charles  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:38:32am

re: #120 JammieWearingFool

Anyone have a link for that 44-43 poll? All these manufactured media polls today say Obama is "pulling away" and other such nonsense.

Just posted.

141 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:38:46am

re: #132 capitalist piglet

Is she the one who mentioned the Manson murders at a press conference or something, in glowing terms? She was a Susan Atkins wannabe, as I recall.

Wow, you know I think you're right about that. Makes the comment even more relevant (although sarcasm was what I was looking for). :-)

142 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:39:09am

re: #138 MandyManners

Can you imagine the outrage if Pres. Bush got such a beast?

Did you notice the ease his troops swept through Georgia?

So, what's another Georgia?

With Obambi as COI, he'll be singing his 99th chorus of Kumbaya as Vlad's troops move into the Capitol.

143 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:40:06am

re: #97 Honorary Yooper

Statistical dead heat.


And since this is from AP, I'd say McCain is out ahead.

144 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:40:35am

re: #126 MandyManners

That's some really comprehensive paranoid schizophrenia right there.

145 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:40:37am

re: #143 newsjunkie_ky

And since this is from AP, I'd say McCain is out ahead.

Did you forget about the ACRON Factor?

146 JohnAdams  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:41:09am

The irony here...well, there are many...is that if all racism was eradicated these two would be the most miserable bastards in the world because it would remove their last illusion.

147 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:42:11am

re: #71 jill e

Besides body count, the only difference between Bill Ayers and Timothy McVeigh is extreme left vs. extreme right.

Well, that and that all the country repudiates McVeigh, while plenty defend Ayers.

148 His Favorite Heretic  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:42:21am

Hey, Bill, only in racist America does a good-for nothing empty suit become the Democrat POTUS candidate. Only in racist, white America do 'people of color' make it to the top with or without talent or virtue -- rap gangstas and Supreme Court justices. Only in racist, white America can a radical, racked-by-caucasian-guilt scumbag self-confessed terrorist like you get off on a legal technicality and then go on to be hired by, and lauded, by the same-kind deluded assholes such as yourself. In any other nation, colored and tolerant, you would worm food.

Fuck you. Fuck you and everyone associated with you poison. You will pay someday. Criminals and terrorits always meet justice. For you, it may take longer, but you WILL pay.

149 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:43:17am

re: #116 Florida Lady

I think the internals of that poll are curious- and something doesn't quite add up. Consider this line from the report:

The AP-GfK survey included interviews with a large sample of adults including 800 deemed likely to vote. Among all 1,101 adults interviewed, the survey showed Obama ahead 47 percent to 37 percent. He was up by five points among registered voters.

What is the breakdown? 1101 interviewed, 47 to 37 is a meaningless figure since it's all respondents. 5 points among registered voters, which isn't a good predictor of actual voting preferences. That comes out of thin air.

Better yet, here's the full polling report, and the internals.

150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:43:24am

re: #118 SeafoodGumbo

Remembering a Sixties Terrorist

This deserves its own thread, IMHO.

151 guitarguy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:44:33am

I want someone from the left to explain the difference between Mohammed Atta, Timothy McVeigh, and Bill Ayers.

That's the question O'Reilly, McCain, et al, should've asked 'The Amazing Barry'.

152 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:44:47am

re: #106 Ojoe
My friend, please see my #95 and share this story (Charles' story that is, not my comment, lol!)

153 MJBrutus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:45:12am

re: #74 ratso

He'll tell us that this is a distraction from the real concerns of working, middle class families of course. And the MSM will swoon at his commitment to the real issues and decry the negative McCain campaign tactics.

154 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:45:38am
155 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:46:07am
156 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:46:59am

re: #154 ploome hineni

she cannot be admitted to the bar because she is a convicted felon

That's a great point, which leads to another question: if she can't be admitted to the bar, what business does she have being a law professor - associate or otherwise?

(Actually a question for the university.)

157 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:47:21am

re: #9 karmic_inquisitor

I fear Liberal Supremacy.

It is very real and very vengeful. We have a century of genocide behind us perpetrated by leftists.

you mean in front of us, don't you ?

158 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:47:45am

re: #111 rightwinger3 How's about we both go looking for him?!

159 Miss Molly  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:47:48am

For all Bill and his wife Bernadette hate the capitalist system and America they certainly use both to keep them in a nice life style and make as much money as they can. I don't see them giving up their life style or money ever.

160 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:47:49am
161 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:48:22am

re: #156 subsailor68

That's a great point, which leads to another question: if she can't be admitted to the bar, what business does she have being a law professor - associate or otherwise?

(Actually a question for the university.)

she can get the felony set aside thru expungement
or a pardon from the governor if a state crime
by the POTUS for a Federal rap

162 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:48:41am

re: #114 Stinky Beaumont
Already have, Stinky!
But thanks for reminding folks to do so!

163 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:49:09am

Do they not find the irony that we even have Black man running as the Democrat candidate for office of President of the USA? We have black Senators, Representatives, our Secretary of State is Black, The Army Chief of Staff was Black. There are many Black Generals and Admirals in the Armed Forces. Many cities have Black Mayors as well as key positions in those governments. Colleges are well represented with Blacks students as is corporate America. Do they fill slots everywhere? No, but Blacks only comprise 14% of the population.
In this "White Supremacist" nation Ayers talks about, there are African-American owned radios stations, TV stations, magazines, newspapers and businesses devoted to nothing but serving the Black community.

Can we, as a nation, go further? Probably. Will we ever eradicate racism? No. But, we can eliminate overt signs of racism and institutional racism. And I think we have pretty much done that.

164 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:49:54am

re: #114 Stinky Beaumont

Digg it!

I just did

and thank you for fixing the "quote" problem !

165 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:50:02am

re: #161 Adrenalyn

she can get the felony set aside thru expungement
or a pardon from the governor if a state crime
by the POTUS for a Federal rap

Hmmm....interesting. I honestly don't know which it is - the conviction I mean. Need to look this up.

If federal, it could get real interesting if Obama wins. Does he sign the pardon, or throw yet another "ally" under the bus?

166 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:51:26am

re: #127 yma o hyd
Hey yma - would you stop being so logical and, and.....right?! You might hurt Billy Boy's feelings or something (I'm pulling for "or something"!)!

167 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:51:39am

re: #165 subsailor68

Hmmm....interesting. I honestly don't know which it is - the conviction I mean. Need to look this up.

If federal, it could get real interesting if Obama wins. Does he sign the pardon, or throw yet another "ally" under the bus?

the expungement is kinda easy
all she has to do is stay out of jail for 10 years
then apply and it gets done
it will allow her to get bar-admitted
and anything else EXCEPT buy a gun
that does not go away except via pardon
or the even-rarer
Coram Nobis

168 MJBrutus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:52:20am

re: #155 ploome hineni

IIRC, he's an English prof, not law.

169 formercorpsman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:52:21am

re: #105 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Damn straight Beer.

170 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:52:56am

re: #167 Adrenalyn

the expungement is kinda easy
all she has to do is stay out of jail for 10 years
then apply and it gets done
it will allow her to get bar-admitted
and anything else EXCEPT buy a gun
that does not go away except via pardon
or the even-rarer
Coram Nobis

Thanks for the info! As to the gun part, I'd be more comfortable if it prevented her from buying bomb making materials. Seems that's more her style.

171 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:53:13am
172 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:53:52am

re: #168 MJBrutus

IIRC, he's an English prof, not law.

I think he was referring to Dorhn, not Ayers.

173 Sabnen  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:55:03am

Just finished downing my lunch, log on, read this book's promo and up comes my lunch!
Thanks Charles, I guess I didn't really need those calories.

What is the cover graphic? Can't see the relation.

Amazon has "Customers Who Bought Items Like This Also Bought . . ." and which goes on to list all books written by Weathermen, Rebels, 60's Radicals, etc . . . just a lot of trees wasted to make paper for these books near as I can tell.

174 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:56:02am

re: #170 subsailor68

Thanks for the info! As to the gun part, I'd be more comfortable if it prevented her from buying bomb making materials. Seems that's more her style.

well, black powder is somewhat regulated by ATF
but the basic ingredients for the home-made bombs
nah, anyone can buy them still

175 guitarguy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:56:25am

re: #163 Outrider

They (probably) see the irony, but they refuse to acknowledge it.
It's very similar to what Julian Bond said a few weeks ago regarding an Obama Presidency.
(Loose quote): 'Having a black President does not mean our struggle is over. We still have a lonnnnnnnng way to go before wiping out the institutional racism blah-blah-blah...'

So, no, they won't ever see the irony because that would be an acknowledgement of their very weak argument.
If they'd acknowledge it, that have to find real jobs.

176 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:56:55am

Fanning the flames of "white guilt", or just horrible timing?

177 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:56:56am

re: #174 Adrenalyn

well, black powder is somewhat regulated by ATF
but the basic ingredients for the home-made bombs
nah, anyone can buy them still

Yeah, I know...but ya can dream, can't ya? :-)

178 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:57:15am

Well all y'all I have to go now - do some more chores, eat lunch and all that jazz, though I'd really, honestly rather be beating up Billy and Bernadine with you all - figuratively speaking, of course!
I hope you all have fun swatting that pinata and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

179 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:58:26am

Well folks, off to check the AP poll thread...like the title. :-)

180 wolfie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:58:41am

re: #155 ploome hineni

a convicted felon teaching LAW at UIC

She (Dohrn) is actually at Northwestern.
Ayers is at U-Ill at Chicago.
The fact that either one of them was hired is the true disgrace.

181 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 10:59:49am

OT (ish)

Heard Air America say this morning. (Tom something show) that Ayers and Dohrn, and Tim McFay are not "anti-American" because they were killing Americans and attempting to overthrow the government for what they believed to be the benefit of the United States.

If you can explain this to me, I'd appreciate it.

182 Iron Fist  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:00:30am

re: #88 Silhouette

Dead bodies are a Political statement. Josef Stalin said "One death is a tragedy. A million deaths are just statistics". That is certainly the way the Left thinks and acts.

183 Albigensian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:01:57am

If all white guys grew up with Ayers' wealth, and all white guys could avoid punishment for even murderously poor judgement and then land an easy, tenure-track academic appointment-- well, then, perhaps he'd have a point about white privilege.

But as it is, if he wishes to atone for his own privilege and lack of accountability, he could always resign his UIC job and do some real work-- plumbing, for example.

184 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:02:14am

re: #181 WrathofG-d

OT (ish)

Heard Air America say this morning. (Tom something
show) that Ayers and Dohrn, and Tim McFay are not "anti-American"
because they were killing Americans and attempting to overthrow the
government for what they believed to be the benefit of the United
States.

If you can explain this to me, I'd appreciate it.

Because to these people:
Dissent is patriotic - as numerous bumper stickers have attested
Treason is the ultimate form of dissent
Therefore, treason is patriotism.

185 Elcid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:02:36am

Did 'they' include themselves? If 'they' did and still have that 'itch' to blow things up, may I suggest 'they' seriously consider Trinity United Church?

Hopefully, with their age as a factor and the new technologies, 'they' get a little careless and go out with a BANG.

186 Marlin925  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:03am

re: #19 CIA Reject

You know, it's bad enough that this *sshole is an unrepentant terrorist, but I think what really pisses me off about him is the fact that he thinks he's qualified to tell me what to think when he hasn't done an honest day's work in his entire miserable life.

A Trust Fund Trotskyite, Master Card Marxist rich kid who tried like hell to kill people like me, NCOs at the Ft. Dix. N.J. NCO Club. An "anti-racist" who pals around with the 0bambi, but probably never sets foot in 'Da hood. Hypocrite, (SPIT)

187 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:06:57am

re: #102 MandyManners

By which army?

Mandy, start writing down all of the 3 and 4 letter federal agencies that have armed officers. There are a lot more than you might think. Estimate the total number of armed federal agents in your city (or the nearest reasonably sized city). They probably outnumber the local police.

188 art5904  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:08:21am

Damit Damit Damit. If The One is elected and these two self indulgent hippies show up at the White House I am going to fly my American flag upside down.

189 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:11:16am

re: #184 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Because to these people:
Dissent is patriotic - as numerous bumper stickers have attested
Treason is the ultimate form of dissent
Therefore, treason is patriotism.

Frighteningly enough, I believe you to right. But there is absolutely ZERO logic to that statement. Attempts to destroy the standing Government is, as you stated "Treason". This is the complete opposite of patriotism (love of Country; Ie: Governmental bodies (not the actual people sitting in those positions)). I would imagine that to bolster their argument those who argue that "dissent" (which might be, but bombing people, and attempting to destroy the Government isn't "dissent" its Treason) would use the Founding Fathers as an example of revolutionary patriotism. This argument however would be flawed as, although they might have been American patriots, they were English (their actual country) Traitors! Thus when those within the U.S. fight to destroy the U.S. or hurt the U.S. they might be non-American patriots (as their loyalty would be to someone, something else) but are American traitors!

190 Marlin925  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:08am

re: #181 WrathofG-d

OT (ish)

Heard Air America say this morning. (Tom something show) that Ayers and Dohrn, and Tim McFay are not "anti-American" because they were killing Americans and attempting to overthrow the government for what they believed to be the benefit of the United States.

If you can explain this to me, I'd appreciate it.

Didn't you get the memo? Spoiled brat rich kids whose heads are stuffed with radical chic are the ultimate patriots when they try to murder working class NCOs with nail bombs. It keeps those NCOs from doing imperialist things, such as bringing draftee privates back from 'Nam alive.

191 Hard Right  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:41am

re: #62 Shug

About the Author

William C. Ayers is a distinguished professor subhuman piece of garbage.
SPIT !

Tweaked

192 undhimmicratic  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:44am

I find it interesting that the book's subject brings together Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers in terms of ideology. Before this, it seemed that they were two bad boys sitting under the "radicalism" umbrella. Now we have the Black Power issue overarching them both, which tells me that Obama is far more likely a front man for a somewhat shadowy but far more specific radical movement.

193 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:07am

re: #70 Tumulus11

. The book may be light on personal stories from surviving family members of the Brinks guard and two police officers murdered by the Weather Underground Oct. 20, 1981.

How old was Barry?

194 Terp Mole  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:21am

UMd Pre-Election Day (11/03, 7pm)"FREE Laboratory Theatre"... underground:

David Dorfman's underground , presented at the Center on November 6 and 7, uses the 1960s as a starting point to explore the principles of political activism, in particular the activities of the Weather Underground, to ask bigger questions: When can activism become terrorism or vice versa? In a violent world, can you fight for peace?

/bigger issues

195 hailing frequencies open  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:22:08am

The most expensive toilet paper you'll ever buy.

196 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:06am

re: #189 WrathofG-d

American Patriotism is the love of the ideals that founded our country. Dissent against changing those ideals is patriotic. Dissent against keeping them is not.

But we're the ones who can't handle nuance?

197 SeafoodGumbo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:25:50am

re: #150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

This deserves its own thread, IMHO.

I agree. I'm going to ! it to Charles.

198 Occam's Beard  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:44am
He is the author of [...] Fugitive Days, a memoir about his life with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn.

So...it's a family story, kinda like "Cheaper by the Dozen?"

That's got to be the most anodyne rendering of a terrorist's activities in history. "Life with his wife" - sheesh!

199 DeeMack  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:04am

Im a little late to the party today! Sorry...been working my little fingers to the bone for the good cause!

Came accross this today...(if someones already posted, sorry for the redundancy)

[Link: www.nakedemperornews.com...]

200 hazzyday  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:12am

Amazon.com is a good place to review Ayers.

Ayers like Jay Leno wishes he was black so he could reach a broader audience. A case of familiarity breeds contempt for both of them.

The content of Ayers needs to be stamped out. He shouldn't be receiving a glorified "Get out of Jail free" card from the academics or the media. Makes them just as culpable. The only value of his book is to know that this is what Sen. Obama agrees with most whole heartedly and tries to hide from until after the election.

201 jrdidner  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:05am

If only we had another debate left, now that he has an upcoming racially motivated book, William Ayers is now qualified to be the moderator.

202 bill-tb  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:14pm

Well, better late than never. Anyone know how to get this to the McCain campaign?

203 Dasher  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:18pm

It is interesting that this book is announced today. The book will not be available until June 1, 2009. Verrrry Interestttting

204 Lynn B.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:27:03pm

Of course they are delaying the release of this book until well after the election. I wonder why?

205 annar  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:29:44pm

It goes without saying that this book will be required reading for anyone looking for a job in The Dear One's administration. The Department of Education will insist that it be required reading for all schools directly or indirectly receiving DOE grant money.

I find it amazing that idiots like Ayres and Dohrn hold university positions at all. Of course, education schools and faculties are the bottom of the barrel for academic pursuit but the combination of intellectual vacuity and treasonous behavior earning one a position at a state funded university is beyond the pale.

206 abolitionist  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:51:54pm

"Memory is a father raper."

That was not in this book? Never mind.

/ Like so many, I keep getting SDS/WUO/Ayers/Dohrn confused with Alice's Restaurant.

207 cartoonboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:58:44pm

Ayers wrote in "Fugitive Days": "Terrorists intimidate, while we aimed only to educate."

Who's going to get the presidential Teacher of the Year award if Obama is elected?

208 deanyc  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:02:55pm

Crikey. I'm so sick of these walking, talking anachronists. These cliwns think it's the 1940s still. For anyone who didn't catch my post the other day, I recently shared a train into NYC with Mr. Ayers, on Columbus Day. He was most likely in Fairfield County that weekend visiting his friends, who I'm sure were impoverished like him and have fought gallantly each and every day of their lives to stop the nation's evil racist institutions from sending them their weekly paychecks. Ayers came walking down the aisle of Metro North train wearing a jean jacket, jeans and sandals, a small gold hoop earring in each ear, was unshaven, had a receding balding hairline, and a t-shirt with huge red letters saying ‘Resist and Survive” around a symbol of a raised, clenched fist. I was the only person who recognized the bastard, and we made eye contact and he smirked. I went and stood next to him at the doors of the train, where he stood with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, one of the other pigs who bombed the pentagon and police stations back in the 1970s. They killed people. I truly wanted to punch him in the head.

209 abolitionist  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:03:17pm

re: #207 cartoonboy

According to FBI files, Ayers' title in the SDS/WUO was Secretary of Education. Only strategy has changed.

210 norar  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:08:11pm

New manual for Community Organizers communist subversion agitators of the masses (according to Lenin). Is this an update on Alinsky teories, that tries to promote new self-interest common course of racial grievances in large, instead of the broken toilets Obama tried to organize the masses in his days as 'community organizer'?

211 cartoonboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:11:22pm

I see: Ayers is our teacher and death is our lesson. Unfortunately for Ayers I hope to maintain my F average in his school.

212 cartoonboy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:22:08pm

Actually, many of us lizards are in grave danger of receiving a failing mark at Ayers' Supreme Nation of Splodatology Academy.
I've already been sent to the principals office where I was told I must vote 10 times for Obama as my punishment.

213 kellino  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:25:29pm

I can think of at least one pastor who is looking forward to this book.

What was his name again?

Oops...it's considered socially inappropriate to mention this, right? My bad.

214 SWPaul  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:40:13pm

Awesome! I've been looking for a great fall read!
I'll make sure to read it in my high-rise apartment in Chicago overlooking the ghettos while I sip martinis. (Or whatever alcohol rich people drink these days)

Cause I doubt I see Ayers chugging brandy.

215 mean Gene  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:54:05pm

I am shocked that Bill couldn't have waited until after the election to publish this book.
But maybe he realizes that 0bama's supporters are not thinking people who get swayed by anything but feelings.

216 red satellite  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:57:35pm
William C. Ayers is an distianguished professor of Marxist education

...

There...fixed it.

217 mean Gene  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:01:36pm

Wow!
According to book sales, democrats don't read hardly at all!
Check it out!
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

218 MeatPopsicle  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:19:13pm

When a married team of unrepentant domestic terrorists and wholesale murderers -who've never served a single day in prison for their horrific crimes- become a distinguished professor of education and a senior university scholar at an American University, and the other the director of a Children and Family Law Justice Center and a clinical associate professor of law at another American University, and both are best buddies with a Presidential Candidate, whom overtly LIES about the relationship and gets a free pass on it from EVERYONE ... then I KNOW I'm living in Bizarro World.

It is absolutely insane and should have been unimaginable. Yet, here we are.

It boggles the mind how that is even possible.

219 LGoPs  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:40:52pm

re: #61 warlord

They're the new Praetorian Guard. They will determine who the new emperor is.......bastards

*Spit

220 mattm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:41:56pm

The old out hate the other rmoonbats routine.

221 jcbunga  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:00:03pm

About the Author
William C. Ayers is a distinguished professor of education dried up old hippie and a senior university scholar a failed terrorist at the University of Illinois–Chicago. He is the author of To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher and Fugitive Days I Hate Mommy And Daddy: They Survived The Great Depression and Still Found Time to Kick Hitler's Ass, a memoir about his life with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, fellow dried up old hippie. Bernardine Dohrn is the director of the Children and Family Law Justice Center and a clinical associate professor of law at Northwestern University. She is the coauthor of A Century of Juvenile Justice and Justice in the Making. is equally gutless and doesn't know what she'd like to be when she grows up. They live in Chicago, where they are shielded from the cruel realities of Darwinism.

222 EEprom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:36:13pm

If you go to the linked Amazon page scroll down to the 'Tags Customers Associate with This Product ' section and read.

terrorist (11)
terrorism (10)
weather underground (9)
communist (7) barack (5)
swine (5)
traitor (5)
obama (4) black liberation theology (3)
barak obama (2)
rapist (2)

223 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:39:09pm

re: #117 Honorary Yooper

Some gave way more, you see them lying there in the photograph.

224 gwillie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:10:02pm
Fugitive Days, a memoir about his life with his wife, Bernardine Dohrn. Bernardine Dohrn


Well it's just a book about his wife, what's the big deal?
I can only hope the person who wrote... ah never mind, he knew full well what he was covering up.

225 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:39:07pm

The "Zionism is racism" lie has worked so well at putting pressure on Israel and sustaining the hatred for Israel - the radical left has decided that the best way to try to destroy America from the inside is to promote the idea that "America is racism."

As the book description says,

...reasserts their belief that racism and war are interwoven issues...

The best chance they have to destroy America and Israel is to keep insisting that it's racist to defend ourselves in wars if the people trying to kill us have a different (even slightly different) skin color.

What's ridiculous about this argument in Israel, of course, is that half the Jews in Israel are from Middle Eastern families with the same skin color as Arabs. So when our enemies (inside and outside) dishonestly insist that Israel is a white nation with racist genocidal intentions towards people with darker skin, they refuse to acknowledge the fact that the skin colors among so many Israelis are identical enough with Arabs for Jews to go undercover as Arabs in "Palestinian" areas without being detected.

Our enemies also refuse to acknowledge that a number of the worst suicide bombings in Israel were carried about by Arabs who infiltrated crowded places by being able to pass as Jews (usually via their clothing.)

This whole "white supremacy" thing is a scam by the left to topple America.

The American left are the most racist people in the country when they go up against people of color and women who refuse to join them. Colin Powell was called a "House Negro" when he worked for George Bush. Now that he's supporting Obama, he's almost a deputy messiah to the left.

Sarah Palin has received the most misogynist treatment of any woman in America in the last two months and it's all come from the left.

Charges of racism and sexism are used as weapons against America by the left (while the very same left wingers wield the most vicious racism and sexism at people of color and women who don't buy into their ideology.)

Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn are proud of being anti-American. They're proud that America makes them want to puke.

Obama is their weapon.

Just as Bill Ayers arranged the rape of a young woman years ago by telling her she couldn't leave his apartment until she had sex with his married black roommate or else be considered a racist - Bill Ayers and his cronies on the radical left are putting the entire country in the position of being called racist if we don't elect someone who hates America and who would crush America's economy with his socialism and weaken America with his intention to decimate the military and appease our enemies.

226 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 2:19:14am

re: #225 Adina in Judea

Adina -

Read the Amazon.com blurb on the book. Ayres is described as a "Distinguished Professor of Education" - BLOODY, BOTH LITERALLY and FIGURATIVELY RUBBISH! Prof. Ayres and Bernadine Dohrn (Mrs. Ayres) claim to authorship fame is Prairie Fire.
Perhaps suicide is their doctrine - Neither the Torah nor the US Constitution are correctly construed as Suicide Pacts. Too bad for Mr. & Mrs. Ayres.
Choose Wisely - Choose Life.

-S-

227 John Gibbon  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 5:11:03am

The day that Ayers and wife are invited to the White House for coffee or tea is the day I retire from military service.

Could you imagine a man who set off a bomb at the Pentagon and who knew about a plot to set off another at Fort Dix being honored with an invitation to the White House or any official committee on education, for that matter?

228 granite eagle  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 7:07:54am

Simple question.

If these people are so hip to communism and socialism, then why in the hell do they stay in the US?

Any reason? (this would reveal this liberal fool for the small minded individual he is....live in the US, incite violence..and know that you can rely on your kook buddies like BarryO to back you.....)

If Bill and his concubine are so unhappy in the US why don't they just leave and go live with Chavez, Castro, or someone else that will give them the bliss you are looking for?
Why stay in the US and live and suckle off the teat of hardworking americans who are paying their hard earned money to your college, so that you can insight socialism....just go live in the socialist utopia you find so appealing!

If this place is so utterly revolting, then why would anyone like him stay? Silly question........

If Ayers and his ho really want to make an impact they really should strap an explosive vest to themselves and go hang out with the PLO or Hamas.....wait their turn to becom martyrs.....

This man and his friends are cowards.....
Obama is a coward.......
Clinton was a coward for pardoning their associates......(word is they supplied him with some killer chronic)
Any liberal fool is a coward....someone not willing to stand for their beliefs but teaches young impressionable people to change their views is a coward.

These people sicken me.........

229 Ledger1  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 8:07:23am

Conjecture:

1. Bill “bomber” Ayers writes an anti-Caucasian book and sells it.

2. George Soros buys most of the books.

3. The proceeds of Ayers book end up in Obama’s bank account.

4. Shouldn't the FEC be looking into such transactions – yes.

The timing is great. Ayers/Obama campaign takes in more money - avoiding the rules.

The Federal Election Committee should be looking into such transactions!

230 Jed  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 8:10:36am
distinguished professor of education

Indeed he is distinguished - by his hatred for America.

231 granite eagle  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 8:56:40am

PS.
Racism in America for the last few decades has been a fomentation of the left.

Since the left owns the media, the media continues to forward that premise incessantly.

The Media premise that the US cannot be a "racist free" country unless we put a negro into the presidency is another fomentation of the left that the media marches along with lockstep. (no matter how many black mayors, governors, reps, senators, secs of state we have) I guess if a republican or conservative is either elected to or appoints people to these positions, its nothing more than Uncle Tom stuff, bought and paid for by the honkey.

The hypocrisy here is thick enough that my splitting maul would not even get 1/3 of the way through it.........

If this election does nothing else, it should establish the known fact that Liberals support and elect liberals skin color is irrelevant.......nothing differnt than conservatives supporting and electing conservatives.

.........the racist cry has become nothing more than a liberal talking point of convenience when they don't get their way.


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