Just one?
/

And the one wants to sit down with dinnerjacket with no pre-conditions. OY!

You don't mess with the Zohan!

October surprise!

Stand up and take a bow Joe, you embolden the terrorists.

If Iran keeps this up, the next President may not need to worry about them. A lot can happen between Nov. 5 and Jan. 20.

Cannot say what I really want to about Iran and the Obama.

BREAKING! BIDEN CONVINCES AL QUEDA TO DELAY OCTOBER SURPRISE UNTIL JANUARY

Love me some accordion.

Either the Islamic world has a change of heart, or the path they are on will lead to their world in ashes.

It is worth praying for the miracle.

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.

Dangerous words, there, Tehran.

/recommendation to Israel, pre-empt the pre-emptive-pre-emptive strike.

A preemptive attack how? With the charge of the 3rd Camel Brigade across Iraq and Jordan?

If this got actual legitimate coverage by the MSM this would most likely help McCain with Jewish voters he is trying to court. Sadly as we all know it wont be...

Obama will talk with the Iranians. They will listen to him just like Russia did with Georgia.

The One speaks, the world listens!
/

Oh, $#!+.

They'll wait until Jan. 21...but not much after that

re: #12 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That reminds me of a Dr. Seuss book.

Pakistan may be first. Today they hit the IMF up for 4-5B to avoid bankruptcy.

is obama showing strength of leadership by telling them both to just stop it now?

Iran has absolutely zero chance of pulling this off. Period. This goes along with Iran's bluff for the last 3 years that it is a great military power. It is not.

but of course if the U.S. takes preemptive action to prevent Iran's attack against a sovereign country and ally, then we're the aggressors.

re: #14 Dream

As a Jew, I am not convinced that support of Israel is a collective given.

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Pre-emptive strikes can only prevent attacks if they are over-whelming.

re: #8 MichaelAsher

The Spinoffs are there for a reason.

re: #13 RightLogic

A preemptive attack how? With the charge of the 3rd Camel Brigade across Iraq and Jordan?

lol. with pitch forks and shovels at the ready.

Nice work Joe! SCENARIO: Iran attackes Israel, Israel strikes back with great effect.

Obama (along with the 'civilized world') admonishes Israel, and sends Iran a blank check consisting of US aid & apologies.

re: #19 sadhu

lol, doesn't he seem like the type who would threaten to swat the mullah's behind if they act baaaaad?

This is what I've been worried about. When Joe said it "wouldn't be apparent" that they are doing the right thing, I was thinking it meant that they would leave Israel twisting in the wind if she were attacked.

Hard to know, exactly, what they're thinking - but given the past statements of Obama's ex-ish foreign policy advisor Samantha Power, I have to wonder.

Given the military prowess that Iran has demonstrated to date, perhaps they mean that they will use Photoshop to remove Israel from the map.
/

re: #11 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.

You got that right. Boy, the prospect of them launching a "preemptive" attack is too much to hope for. But I'll hope for it just the same. This world would be an immeasurably better place if those stinking rug merchants in Tehran gave the Israelis such an excuse to make their day.

"Say it ain't so, Joe."

BTW, where is Biden?

re: #31 CyanSnowHawk
Too funny!

Thanks for the warning, Joe!

This would be the mullah who didn't finish reading the book that began with "Chapter 1: Pearl Harbor."

No brain scans in released Biden medical records

...fixed that for ya, Joe!

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

The Villages?

A lot of folks, myself included, feel that Israel is bound to attack Iran's nuke sites after Election Day. Is Iran planning on attacking Israel before then?

If we get President Obama, we will also get a war that engulfs the entire middle east. The Iranians will think they have Jimmah Jr. in the White House, and they will be right. Right after he is sworn in, they will start thinking about causing problems in the Straits and in Israel......Does anyone think they would act that way with President McCain? They know they would get their teeth kicked in with him. Obama is an opportunity for them.....they will play chicken with him and my money is on "the One" balking first.

re: #30 capitalist piglet

What I see is a major international fustercluck with the pack of idiots surrounding this duo. Carter X 10.

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

re: #38 Kenneth

No brain scans in released Biden medical records

...fixed that for ya, Joe!

They all came back negative. You cannot scan what is not there.

I think the only crisis N0bama would have will be deciding between surrendering or capitulating. Failure is a given.

re: #39 loppyd

The Villages?

Cool, they got their idiot back.

re: #39 loppyd

The Villages?

I heard they are missing an idiot or two.

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Ding, ding ding!

re: #41 Desert Dog

Obama won't balk, why he will give a great speech. And if that doesn't work, he'll give another speech.

re: #34 JammieWearingFool On his way to Hawaii. I think.
That or back to that nifty new rubber room that Obama had made especially for Joe!

Safavi said Tehran recently drafted a new policy for responding to an Israeli or American attack on its nuclear facilities. While the previous policy called for attacks against Israel and American interests in the Middle East and beyond, the new policy is to target Israel alone.

Hey look, it's now safe for the US to attack Iran./

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

He's in hiding so he doesn't make any more gaffes in opposition to "The One's" talking points.

re: #49 Kenneth

Obama won't balk, why he will give a great speech. And if that doesn't work, he'll give another speech.

I wonder what sort of set he'll have constructed for the occasion(s).

re: #40 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A lot of folks, myself included, feel that Israel is bound to attack Iran's nuke sites after Election Day. Is Iran planning on attacking Israel before then?

Geez... Come on... Their nuclear plants are for energy purposes... Man, we here are calling for more nuke plants... What's everyone's problem? Can I please finish my waffle?

re: #43 Josephine

If all else fails, I'm certain the Obama's will be able to score some of that yummy Iranian caviar.

Don't worry. Obama will send Sec of State Kerry with a strongly worded recommendation to cease and desist.

Lt. Nuance will work out the details over tea.

I want to know who/how this got to the Israelis, and why it's been leaked.

I'm not saying anything negative about the story.

I'm merely wondering about motive ... ALL the way around.

re: #23 vagabond trader

As a Jew, I am not convinced that support of Israel is a collective given.

Hi Vaga,

I am always sad to be reminded of the lack of jewish support for Israel.

I worked with a woman a few years ago - a liberal whose most favorite president was Carter. She one day told me she was Jewish on her mothers side (don't remember why the subject came up). She said it like it was an embarrassment to her. I just don't understand that.

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

Getting his jaw wired shut.

So Israeli intelligence got an intercept of a meeting between Safavi and 'foreign diplomats' in London. I'd love to know who those diplomats are.

What I also find interesting is that 'talks' between Iran and US are good to go if Obama is elected but not McCain. No clue that a pre-emptive strike on Israel is dependent on the election. Small group of hardliners, huh?

Safavi said he believed that U.S. sanctions on Iran have run their course, and that there would be no point in strengthening them.

We don't have to strengthen them as long as the price of oil keeps falling. Their inflation is at 30% and rising.

So, in order to prevent the Israelis from preventing an attack on Israel by attacking Iran, Iran will attack Israel, thereby preventing the prevention, but what if now Israel plans to prevent the prevention to prevent the attack?

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

Of course, because we would pull our troops out of the Middle East, like Obama wants and like Iran wants... Then Iran can take over the Middle East...

re: #24 KingKenrod

However they are fools.

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

yes, because they think he is on their side AND they know he is weak.
either way, they think they will get what they want.
it should scare everyone that all these islamic regimes are in his cheering section.

re: #49 Kenneth

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors, a senior Islamic Republic official told foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London.

The Iranians only precondition is nuclear fission.

re: #46 gonecamping

Cool, they got their idiot back.

LOL

re: #58 midwestgak

Hi Vaga,

I am always sad to be reminded of the lack of jewish support for Israel.

I worked with a woman a few years ago - a liberal whose most favorite president was Carter. She one day told me she was Jewish on her mothers side (don't remember why the subject came up). She said it like it was an embarrassment to her. I just don't understand that.

Sometimes it's hard to be proud of your self-hatred.

As an aside to this, the Demcorat operatives are flooding the airwaves saying that of course Biden is correct, but he means any new President.
Bull, Biden prfaced his comment witgh 'if we are elected" & made itg clear that he was referring to an inexperienced BHO.

re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't worry. Obama will send Sec of State Kerry with a strongly worded recommendation to cease and desist.

Yeah, to Israel
/

re: #59 gonecamping

Getting his jaw wired shut.

LOL! Somebody much smarter than I - on a thread from a day or so ago, coined the perfect term: Said that Joe Biden was Gaffe-tacular.

Jaw wiring = good idea.

:-)

re: #65 redinla

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

IIRC, the press reported a spike in the STDs after viagra hit the market.

Pre-emptive.

It is all just self-defense as they kill the infidels.

Daily.

What's the count at thereligionofpeace.com today?

re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't worry. Obama will send Sec of State Kerry with a strongly worded recommendation to cease and desist.

Lt. Nuance will work out the details over tea.

"Stop, or I shall say STOP again, but with a more forceful tone!"

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

Locked up somewhere until after the polls close on Nov. 4th.

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, in order to prevent the Israelis from preventing an attack on Israel by attacking Iran, Iran will attack Israel, thereby preventing the prevention, but what if now Israel plans to prevent the prevention to prevent the attack?

Good point. I say have at it ;>}

/

re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Lt. Nuance will work out the details over tea.

They will wrap field telephone cord around his private parts and give the crank a few vigorous spins.

/in my fondest dreams

They're mad. If Israel takes the leash off of the Mossad, you're going to see a lot of people disappear.

re: #71 subsailor68

LOL! Somebody much smarter than I - on a thread from a day or so ago, coined the perfect term: Said that Joe Biden was Gaffe-tacular.

Jaw wiring = good idea.

:-)

How long before Rush starts calling gaffes 'Bidenisms'

re: #65 redinla

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

You knew this was coming.

re: #54 tfc3rid

What happened to your avatar?

re: #45 redinla I have to say I'm not sure I agree that Obama would surrender or capitulate. I mean he's said at least half-a-dozen times in public that, with regards to Afghanistan, he's fully in favor of attacking a nuclear armed Pakistan (and to hell with Pakistan's best ally, China).
And anyone willing to invade a Muslim Nation, much less a nuclear armed Muslim Nation, might not capitualte or surrender when Israel, after fending off Iran's puny pre-emptive strike, wipes Iran off the face of the earth as well!

re: #79 gonecamping

How long before Rush starts calling gaffes 'Bidenisms'

Funny! Hey, it made Spooner famous, right?

:-)

re: #69 opnion

At the top of the hour I heard a sound byte of Barry O saying that 'of course' there will be a crisis, it happens all the time...

Not to worry folks... It will happen anyway...

re: #19 sadhu

Pakistan may be first. Today they hit the IMF up for 4-5B to avoid bankruptcy.

Blimey - what happened to all the billions the USA gave them?

re: #81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What happened to your avatar?

Ahhh, good point... What the?

re: #24 KingKenrod

Spot on. They are hurting at less than $70 a barrel and they didn't have a great economy in the first place. Lots of bluster to scare the traders, little substance. (My take: the "crisis" will be either a negotiation with the Taliban or a US strike on Iran -- AFTER the election.)

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Anything below $75 and they are in major financial trouble. What was it this morning? $70? and now $65 ...

re: #55 vagabond trader

If all else fails, I'm certain the Obama's will be able to score some of that yummy Iranian caviar.

So we know what he and Michelle will be noshing on when Israel goes up in smoke? (God forbid.)

I can't tell you how depressed this makes me.

America, I am counting on you to vote for John McCain!

I humbly think Joe "Nostradumbass" Biden is more appropriate.

re: #40 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A lot of folks, myself included, feel that Israel is bound to attack Iran's nuke sites after Election Day. Is Iran planning on attacking Israel before then?

In the next 13 days? They're still trying to figure out what the pigeons know!

Present !

re: #63 Ojoe

However they are fools.

Correction: They're quite mad. Taken over by Thanatos, half in love with easeful death...sweet death, kind death....

re: #74 Desert Dog

"Stop, or I shall say STOP again, but with a more forceful tone!"

Reminds me of Demolition Man

Squad Leader: Simon Phoenix! Lie down with your hands behind your back.
Simon Phoenix: What's this? Six of you. Such nice, tidy uniforms. Oh I'm so scared! What you guys don't have sarcasm anymore?
Squad Leader: Maniac has responded with a scornful remark.
automated assistant: Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

Heavily drugged and stuffed into a trunk, if I were running the Obama campaign.

re: #93 Dianna

Correction: They're quite mad. Taken over by Thanatos, half in love with easeful death...sweet death, kind death....

Where is Atropos when you need her?

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Good point.

Oil per barrel went through $67 today.

Iran break-even at 90 or 75, depending how you look at it

Iran's breakeven is $90Russia

This appears to be a reverse of the Iranian behavior (letting the hostages go) when Reagan succeeded Carter. The appearance of weakness and irresolution emboldens the enemy.

re: #58 midwestgak

So many American Jews are now several generations removed from the pogroms of Europe and Russia, they are comfortable in their assimilation. History forgotten and all that. I am a proud first generation American who is also grateful that Jews have their own safe haven in this world.It was not so long ago that we were denied the safety of America during WWII.

re: #84 tfc3rid

And the crisis will be because the World forgot that Bush was no longer President.

I'm sure Obama would be a voice of reason following a pre-emptive attack by Iran, urging Israel to observe restraint.

Iran is only a part of the problem.

But as we go about bashing Obama's potential treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict (ie: The Arab/Muslim World's continuing attempts to destroy Israel) we must look at how well our own Government is treating the issue as we speak.

Hamas Welcomes Egyptian Plan To Have Hamas Meld With Fatah And Become Part Of The PLO/PA

Then we have:

U.S. Gives 150-Million To PLO

and so it begins.....to all the innocent Iranians that are about to get Whacked, We are sorry you choose your leaders so poorly and that they decided to threaten America and Israel with death.

When the radiation clears, give us a ring and lets talk.

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Drill here, drill now.

I

a. question the timing
b. blame the Jooos
c. want my Maypo

Americans Oppose Income Redistribution to Fix Economy
Half say the government is doing too much, 43% too little to solve country's problems

...Americans' lack of support for redistributing wealth to fix the economy spans political parties: Republicans (by 90% to 9%) prefer that the government focus on improving the economy, as do independents (by 85% to 13%) and Democrats (by 77% to 19%). This sentiment also extends across income groups: upper-income Americans prefer that the government focus on improving the economy and jobs by 88% to 10%, concurring with middle-income (83% to 16%) and lower-income (78% to 17%) Americans. ...

re: #85 yma o hyd

Blimey - what happened to all the billions the USA gave them?

I am sure it was spent on noble causes....you know, fancy cars, houses, big screen TV, rpgs for the Taliban, hush money for Pashtun warlords, etc, etc....and the balance, I would guess is in Geneva at the Yassir Arafat Memorial Terrorist Bank, LLC

I knew many Iranians (considered themselves Persians) in Los Angeles (before I sobered up and moved to Texas). They were smart, beautiful, nice people.

I also knew, and know, many Jewish folks, and they're smart, beautiful, nice people as well.

The idea that these mad mullahs and that Sonny Bono looking idiot could bring death and destruction to both nations is maddening!

Oh for a way to "deal with" those people before they have a chance to act

re: #101 Kenneth

Even if the world is infuriated with the chemical, nuclear, or standard attack on Israel, after it happened, how does that help the million dead Israelis?

Iranians shilling for Obama.....

Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that "the nuclear case is closed," and put it back on the agenda.

Surprise!

From Drudge:

If not an International Crisis, national police are preparing for a national crisis if 'The One' isn't elected:

Police prepare for unrest

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.

Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas (following professional sports events) and also on Internet rumors.

The Hill

re: #107 Desert Dog

I am sure it was spent on noble causes....you know, fancy cars, houses, big screen TV, rpgs for the Taliban, hush money for Pashtun warlords, etc, etc....and the balance, I would guess is in Geneva at the Yassir Arafat Memorial Terrorist Bank, LLC

You forgot the expensive Hookers.

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

The former Soviet Union would loudly denounce this statement as 'unlawful intervention into the internal politics of a sovereign state'.

If that is not a blatant way of infulencing the outcome of free elections in another state then I know nuthin ...

re: #102 WrathofG-d

Iran is only a part of the problem.

But as we go about bashing Obama's potential treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict (ie: The Arab/Muslim World's continuing attempts to destroy Israel) we must look at how well our own Government is treating the issue as we speak.

Hamas Welcomes Egyptian Plan To Have Hamas Meld With Fatah And Become Part Of The PLO/PA

Then we have:

U.S. Gives 150-Million To PLO

Self-delusion, compounded by political correctness.

re: #30 capitalist piglet

...or, remember who he was talking to at the time. Actually standing by Israel wouldn't be the apparent right thing to do to those attending an Obama/Biden rally.
Not that I would Obama doing that.

re: #62 tfc3rid

Of course, because we would pull our troops out of the Middle East, like Obama wants and like Iran wants... Then Iran can take over the Middle East...

But the Saudis don't want Iran in charge, do they? Aren't the Saudis are the ones with more influence in America?

Who are the Saudis supporting in this election? Have they said anything?

re: #102 WrathofG-d

WTF? If you mix piss with water do you get a glass of clean water or piss water? Only the State Dept could swallow such a deal.

re: #108 subsailor68

We are to some degree. Oil is below $70/barrel. They are squeaking because we are stepping on them.

Don't worry folks, Obama will be consulting his top middle-east analyst Rashid Khalidi to get advice on how to handle this crisis

re: #82 realwest

I have to say I'm not sure I agree that Obama would surrender or
capitulate. I mean he's said at least half-a-dozen times in public
that, with regards to Afghanistan, he's fully in favor of attacking a
nuclear armed Pakistan (and to hell with Pakistan's best ally, China).
And
anyone willing to invade a Muslim Nation, much less a nuclear armed
Muslim Nation, might not capitualte or surrender when Israel, after
fending off Iran's puny pre-emptive strike, wipes Iran off the face of
the earth as well!

Michael Smerconish, a "conservative" talk-show host here in Philly, is voting for Obama because he actually believes that Barry will attack Pakistan if they don't give up Bin Laden.

I remember hearing that there was a saying over there in Israel, something like " American Jews would fight to the last Israeli". At first I didn't get that one, but then it started making sense.

re: #100 gonecamping

And the crisis will be because the World forgot that Bush was no longer President.

The World 'couldn't wait' till the Bush 'regime' was out of power and nowthey are going to wish there was some 'cowboy' left...

re: #106 J.D.

Americans' lack of support for redistributing wealth ... Democrats (by 77% to 19%).

Which just proves that most of those that vote Democrat don't actually want the socialism they are voting for. They have been deceived into believing, often, that the GOP hates whatever group they are: blacks, women, Catholics, Jews, unions, "working people", gays, youths, etc.

Re: Obama-like policies regarding "peace gestures" to our enemies.

Sami Kuntar (Recently released by Obama-like PM Ehud Olmert) Vows To Work To Destroy Israel

When are we going to wake up and realize that this limp-wristed, weak, behavior towards our enemy ISN'T working!?

re: #85 yma o hyd

Blimey - what happened to all the billions the USA gave them?

"What billions?!?"

/pock-ee-stahni officials

I know how Casandra must have felt when she saw that large horse with its promise of peace and change.

Powerless as most everyone is oblivious to a dark future that is obvious.

re: #118 CyanSnowHawk

We are to some degree. Oil is below $70/barrel. They are squeaking because we are stepping on them.

Thanks for that. You're right of course, and it gives me hope (well, some at least).

re: #101 Kenneth

I'm sure Obama would be a voice of reason following a pre-emptive attack by Iran, urging Israel to observe restraint.

What was the term used during the Hezballah war? That Israel was using unbalanced force? Yeah, they will urge them not to use unbalanced force...

Please, do it before Bush leaves office. Please.

re: #123 Silhouette

You always forget we don't care about the elderly, they say.

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, in order to prevent the Israelis from preventing an attack on Israel by attacking Iran, Iran will attack Israel, thereby preventing the prevention, but what if now Israel plans to prevent the prevention to prevent the attack?

That made my brain hurt.

re: #111 sngnsgt

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.

They never come out and say it, do they?

What makes this contest historic, guys? We've had elections before. Even about wars. Even heated ones.

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

re: #111 sngnsgt

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

re: #82 realwest

I have to say I'm not sure I agree that Obama would surrender or capitulate. I mean he's said at least half-a-dozen times in public that, with regards to Afghanistan, he's fully in favor of attacking a nuclear armed Pakistan (and to hell with Pakistan's best ally, China).
And anyone willing to invade a Muslim Nation, much less a nuclear armed Muslim Nation, might not capitualte or surrender when Israel, after fending off Iran's puny pre-emptive strike, wipes Iran off the face of the earth as well!

Oh, it's all sabre-rattling and its going on on all sides. Isn't that evident?

re: #132 Silhouette

They never come out and say it, do they?

What makes this contest historic, guys? We've had elections before. Even about wars. Even heated ones.

Because we may have our first Italian President?
Obama does end in a vowel, after all.

re: #130 J.D.

You always forget we don't care about the elderly, they say.

Oops, you're right.

It's because I hate old people, you know.

re: #106 J.D.

Americans Oppose Income Redistribution to Fix Economy
Half say the government is doing too much, 43% too little to solve country's problems

McCain should run an ad blitz on the last three days, showcasing the conversation between Joe Wurzelbacher and The One.

And, oh yeah -

J.D.!

re: #134 tfc3rid

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

Yes, he does 'post' 'race' as an issue a lot. /

Hello Lizards!

re: #111 sngnsgt

There will definitely be foul play in this election, but not from the R side.

I have been incommunicado for nine days: no internet, no cell phones, no nothing...And i come home to THIS? Oy

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

Complete disinformation. They are terrified of McCain and would welcome the linguini-spined Obama. Now, that could backfire on them if they do make a move, and Obama decides to try to look presidential by nuking them into the arms of Allah. Either way, we are unquestionably safer with McCain in the White House.

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

Check under the bus.

re: #133 MandyManners

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

Now that's funny! Bet that Code Pink moron is even more furious she was stopped before she could "arrest" him.

re: #109 WrathofG-d

I may be getting cynical, but the world won't give a damn for the dead Israelis. The Arab street will be dancing.

OT:

It's all even on the homestretch:

Since the last AP-GfK survey in late September, McCain also has:

_Posted big gains among likely voters earning under $50,000 a year; he now trails Obama by just 4 percentage points compared with 26 earlier.

_Surged among rural voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.

_Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. McCain and Obama are running about even among white college graduates, no change from earlier.

_Made modest gains among whites of both genders, now leading by 22 points among white men and by 7 among white women.

_Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead.

_Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points.

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

re: #117 Kenneth

The biggest problem with Hamas becoming part of the PLO, is that we, the U.S. (and Israel) have been funding, arming, training, and backing Fatah for the last 5+ years. Thus when Hamas becomes the PLO/PA, they will become in possession of the infrastructure, weapons, training and money the U.S. has given Fatah/PLO/PA.

The irony is that the argument for funding Fatah is such huge amounts was that it was necessary to hedge them against the Islamist Hamas.

ONCE AGAIN, the PLO/PA has used the "bad cop/good cop" to dupe the "good intentioned" West. Hitoreri, Hitoreri America!

re: #132 Silhouette

They never come out and say it, do they?

What makes this contest historic, guys? We've had elections before. Even about wars. Even heated ones.

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Smerconish is conservative like I'm a ballerina. (Hint: I'm an obese male. Or is that TMI?)

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Idiot

Whatever the current administration does, provided it is halfway effective, you can bet that Obama will chirp up, stating that it was all his idea (sort of the way he was taking notes during the debates and then paraphrasing whatever McCain said, in order to sound statesmanlike). The media will give him credit for it, in their desparate hope to get this fraud elected.

re: #140 vagabond trader

There will definitely be foul play in this election, but not from the R side.

There already IS foul play going on...

Does Iran have a significant number of missiles capable of delivering a chem/bio/nuke warhead to Israel? I wouldn't discount the idea that Iran has acquired enough fissionable material, in small amounts from various sources, for at least one bomb. Does Israel have a "launch on warning" policy? I can't believe they'd wait to absorb a first strike.

re: #144 subsailor68

Now that's funny! Bet that Code Pink moron is even more furious she was stopped before she could "arrest" him.

And Rove elbowed her? Priceless.

I just read that McCain has a new "I am Joe the Plumber" ad! YES!

re: #96 CyanSnowHawk

Where is Atropos when you need her?

Indeed!

re: #147 WrathofG-d

Bingo. A thousand updings for that!

re: #137 Silhouette

Oops, you're right.

It's because I hate old people, you know.

Well that's what "they" say about "us".
I hate 'em so much I always shred that AARP junkmail as soon as I find it in the mailbox.

re: #39 loppyd

The Villages?

Do The Villages have a detox facility?

re: #149 joncelli

Smerconish is conservative like I'm a ballerina. (Hint: I'm an obese male. Or is that TMI?)

Hence my quotes around "conservative"

Just like the Arabs, Iranians talk real tough but fortunately they never have been able to fight worth a shit. With US assistance, Israel will soon destroy the Iranian nuclear program and to decimate their military response capability.
Inshallah, muthafuckahs.

Oh. I just saw the previous thread is the AP story. Duh.

Back to work for me!

It is extremely painful to say this, but obama is about 90% certain to be elected. While it will be a huge mistake by our fellow citizens to vote him in, they are going to do it. McCain f'd up big time by taking a pass on the wright connection, and an even bigger mistake by selecting Palin. So the handwriting is on the wall. If Israel has its basic plans in place, it would do well to make its move on iran before the election for two major reasons.

1. It will need to be done eventually and by doing it sooner, it might actually focus the voters on McCain's strengths before November 4th.

2. It will need to be done eventually and if the Israelis realize obama will be CIC, they have a freer hand to act now while Dubya is still CIC.

Just my two cents ...

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

This election is historic because we might have our first female Veep.

re: #138 Ward Cleaver

McCain should run an ad blitz on the last three days, showcasing the conversation between Joe Wurzelbacher and The One.

And, oh yeah -

J.D.!

yes WARD!

re: #103 Maximu§

Glassifaction Pacification. That's how we should have started this war in 2001. Hit them so damn hard that they will be an example of what happens when you kill Americans. Something like how the Romans handled Carthage, but at sub-orbital velocities.

re: #122 tfc3rid

The World 'couldn't wait' till the Bush 'regime' was out of power and nowthey are going to wish there was some 'cowboy' left...

You've got that right. Peace through strength should be every administration's motto, but I fear Obama believes in bondage through submission. He is more of a traitor than the soviet spys from the days of the cold war. His planned destruction of the United States as we know it is insidious and non too subtle, but the MSM is right next to him in lockstep.

re: #128 tfc3rid

"disproportionate force"

re: #134 tfc3rid

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

Obama is the post-human-racial candidate. He is a totally artificial construct.

re: #65 redinla

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

America's Friendliest Hometown.

Biden made his comments because he, like most Dems (expect the One) are getting scared of the prospects of winning and actually having to put up or shut up. They are scared of the tough decisions that lay ahead. It’s a heck of a lot easier to criticize and blame republicans rather than implementing sound and logical policy.

re: #159 CapeCoddah

Do The Villages have a detox facility?

LOL

Florida's friendliest hometown.

re: #159 CapeCoddah

Do The Villages have a detox facility?

Maybe this store is located in The Villages.

re: #131 MrSilverDragon

That made my brain hurt.

Wait until Iran annouces it will prevent any prevention to prevent the prevention of an attempted prevention of.....

Wait, I lost my place.

re: #154 Ward Cleaver

And Rove elbowed her? Priceless.

Hmmm...is that what it was? From the brief look I got, I thought he was just pulling his arm away....

I like your observation much, much better.

:-)

re: #64 nyc redneck

yes, because they think he is on their side AND they know he is weak.
either way, they think they will get what they want.
it should scare everyone that all these islamic regimes are in his cheering section.

It scares the heck out of me.

All of this pandering to the peaceniks.

As if the "peace at all costs" crowd represents the majority of Americans.

Sometimes you have to fight back in order not to be beaten into the ground. I guess the self-esteem crowd's mommies did all their fighting for them so they could wave their banners in the schoolyard and feel good about themselves.

The trouble is, they're not dealing in reality. If reality were only going to bite them in the butts I wouldn't care, but in this case, it'll bite us all -- big time -- and I doubt they'll even notice that they were responsible. After all, nothing is their fault (the mantra of self-esteem).

re: #171 Wags

Biden made his comments because he, like most Dems (expect the One) are getting scared of the prospects of winning and actually having to put up or shut up. They are scared of the tough decisions that lay ahead. It’s a heck of a lot easier to criticize and blame republicans rather than implementing sound and logical policy.

Ya think? So, Biden doesn't want to step up to the plate?

re: #166 Iron Fist

Glassifaction Pacification. That's how we should have started this war in 2001. Hit them so damn hard that they will be an example of what happens when you kill Americans. Something like how the Romans handled Carthage, but at sub-orbital velocities.

Your my FK'ng Hero!

re: #140 vagabond trader

Agreed, the left is going to do anything legal, and or illegal to insure 'The One' is elected. The press will play ignorant. Excuse me, more ignorant.

re: #174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wait until Iran annouces it will prevent any prevention to prevent the prevention of an attempted prevention of.....

Wait, I lost my place.

And ounce of prevention is worth a *POUND*

re: #160 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So you didn't think the "obese male" thing was over the top? I mean, do I look fat in these jeans?

My own impression is Dr. Seyed G. Safavi is floating that out there to see how the world reacts to it. If the world pulls an, "Ho hum", then we will have to worry. Safavi is pretty high up there, as is his brother.

If the world reacts strongly, or the US reacts strongly, then Ahmadenjad can easily say, it is not Iranian policy, just an idea floating around by some people, some reactionaries.

re: #181 joncelli

So you didn't think the "obese male" thing was over the top? I mean, do I look fat in these jeans?

Dont go blaming the jeans

/ducks

re: #65 redinla

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

Old guy at the Villages goes to his doctor and says " the lady next door told me she had TB, or maybe it was VD. I can't tell , I'm hard of hearing. We have a date tomorrow night, what do I do"?

The doctor says, "chase her around the room, if she coughs you can _____ her"

re: #173 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe this store is located in The Villages.

At least it's fresh.

Some key decision makers in Israel fear that unless they attack Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities in the next few months, while George W Bush is still president, there will not be another period when they can rely on the United States as being anywhere near as supportive in the aftermath of a unilateral attack.

What would Obama say in response?....

"Both sides ought to show restraint"

re: #172 loppyd

LOL

Florida's friendliest hometown.

I know people who have relatives there and if you are a guy in that atmosphere, you will be overrun by women who want to bake for you, cook for you, _{and so on and so forth}.

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Michael Smerconish, a "conservative" talk-show host here in Philly, is voting for Obama because he actually believes that Barry will attack Pakistan if they don't give up Bin Laden.

I think it will take something else entirely to cause that.

For instance, this scenario...

Feb. 25th, 2009
SoS Kerry: President Obama, Iran has just detonated a nuclear bomb in Tel Aviv.
POTUS Obama: What? After all those assurances? How is this possible? We'll show them, attack Pakistan immediately!

re: #168 Kenneth

"disproportionate force"

Thanks Kenneth...

re: #188 J.D.

I know people who have relatives there and if you are a guy in that atmosphere, you will be overrun by women who want to bake for you, cook for you, _{and so on and so forth}.

Sounds like my kind of place!

How insane is it to broadcast the fact that you're going to hit your enemy preemptively? Especially when your opponent has an impressive record of preemptive strikes of its own.

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:
[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

re: #134 tfc3rid

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

Yes, ever since he threw Jerry and Louis under the bus. And of course his latest post-racial endorsement from the post-racist Colin Powell.

re: #178 Maximu§

Your my FK'ng Hero!

Heh, heh, mine too.

"You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone .” – Al Capone (Entrepreneuer)

re: #186 jill e

Some key decision makers in Israel fear that unless they attack Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities in the next few months, while George W Bush is still president, there will not be another period when they can rely on the United States as being anywhere near as supportive in the aftermath of a unilateral attack.

So, do you lefties want to prevent that? You Code Pinkers really want peace? Then vote for John McCain! LOL

re: #153 Son of the Black Dog

Yes, Iran has many missiles, but only a few that can reach Israel. Syria, which is essentially a forward military base of Iran has thousands of short & hundreds of medium range missiles. Israel has very advance radar and satellite systems. If they detect activity at missile sites in Iran or Syria, the IDF would act fast. Waiting to "absorb" the first strike so as to look good in the eyes of the world would be pointless & suicidal.

Here comes the Six Hour War

re: #186 jill e

Boy are they correct... I would be very embarrassed to be an American if we did not stand up for Israel...

re: #13 RightLogic

You don't reckon they'll be usin' the Ninja BootCamp Corps?

re: #181 joncelli

So you didn't think the "obese male" thing was over the top? I mean, do I look fat in these jeans?

What Kragar said.

re: #182 Outrider

My own impression is Dr. Seyed G. Safavi is floating that out there to see how the world reacts to it.

That's a distinct possibility. See mine above re motive.

re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WTF's going on here?

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:
[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

Corrected

re: #186 jill e

At this point I think Israel is waiting until after the election but before Obama takes office. This was they get to avoid the accusations of interfering with our politics.

re: #170 Son of the Black Dog

America's Friendliest Hometown.

A doctor blamed Viagra, a lack of sex education and no risk for pregnancy for the spike in sexually transmitted diseases at The Villages.

Older folks need sex education?

re: #157 Kenneth

To tie everything together. With Obama's wide-eyed, and naively optimistic "everyone just needs to sit down and talk and we can simply work this out" attitude, this situation of the U.S. getting duped by the Islamists is going to get a billion times worse.

With Obama, we will once again go back to square-one as if Camp David, Oslo I & II, The Disengagement, and Lebanon II never happened. With HOPE and Middle East Peace Process CHANGE in policy abound, the brave, new, young Obama will then give the uncompromising, still-want-to-destroy-Israel, and as-of-now yet-to-even-think-of-giving-up-Terrorism-as-is-the -first-requirement-of-any-agreement-with-the-Phake stinians, a "peace gesture" of leaning on Israel to give up all post 1967 land, to show that the U.S. can be more "balanced".

I surely expect to repeat this argument that the West needs to wake up and understand that these "peace gestures" and weakness has failed too many times in the past to try again, after Obama tries it.

I just hope Israel is around at that time to make the argument for!

re: #192 Cicero05

How insane is it to broadcast the fact that you're going to hit your enemy preemptively? Especially when your opponent has an impressive record of preemptive strikes of its own.

We did it in Iraq and they moved their WMD because we dragged ass...

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

I think they think there's a danger of riots either way. The thought had not occurred to me until yesterday, and it's not a pleasant one.

re: #192 Cicero05

How insane is it to broadcast the fact that you're going to hit your enemy preemptively? Especially when your opponent has an impressive record of preemptive strikes of its own.

Or how insane is it to announce when you are going to pull all your troops out of a fight?

re: #191 loppyd

Sounds like my kind of place!

You want to be overrun by old women who want to, ahem, you?

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #99 vagabond trader

I am a proud first generation American who is also grateful that Jews have their own safe haven in this world.It was not so long ago that we were denied the safety of America during WWII.

Proud to have you as an American citizen.

Are there any signs that this trend is changing to more closely reflect your view?

re: #142 doppelganglander

Complete disinformation. They are terrified of McCain and would welcome the linguini-spined Obama. Now, that could backfire on them if they do make a move, and Obama decides to try to look presidential by nuking them into the arms of Allah. Either way, we are unquestionably safer with McCain in the White House.

Gawd - that is not beyond the realm of possibilities, and would fit in nicely with the Biden gaffe about them doing things people wouldn't like.

Its always those who have no idea what war is like who go for it, never those who have experienced it and see it as a last resort.
The Iraq war is a case in point, in spite of what the moonbats want everybody to believe.

re: #210 Mr. Sandman

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Oh yeah, we're falling for that one Mohammed.

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:
[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Do not forget who Israel has as its leadership at this moment. It might not have anything to do with the U.S.

re: #209 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You want to be overrun by old women who want to, ahem, you?

Um no. Bake and cook!

GREAT NEWS FROM ISRAEL

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

The former press advisor for the Shas Party, Itzik Sudry, has taken on a paid position with Opposition Leader Binyamin Netanyahu, leader of the Likud Party. Considered to have the ear of Shas spiritual leader of Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, Sudry is working to ensure that Shas does not join the government coalition that Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni is trying to form.

If Shas does not join, Livni will likely be faced with the choice of presenting a flimsy and narrow government based on her Kadima Party and Labor, or declare new elections - in which Netanyahu and his Likud party are expected to win.

After this election Biden will be doing infomercials selling the Pocket Gaffomatic.

...

re: #142 doppelganglander

Agreed.

Vote, Americans, vote!

re: #186 jill e

That might be one of the possible scenarios Joe was referring to. Suppose the "generated crises" was a preemptive strike by Israel. Joe warned that Obama's response might not be popular or perceived as the correct one. Does that mean Obama would condemn Israel & cut off all support? Is this what Joe was setting us up for?

re: #207 arethusa

I think they think there's a danger of riots either way. The thought had not occurred to me until yesterday, and it's not a pleasant one.

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

Well, are gas stations seeing a rise in 1 to 5 gallon sales? Has there been a drop in the number of glass bottles for recycling? Small things like that show when a riot is actually brewing.

Dang. And it was SOOOOooo profound too.

re: #11 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.

It would bother me. Iran isn't a shithole of a country. It's onetime Olympic gold medalist of civilization, and a nation whose dissidents [e.g. Marjani Satrapi] have given us some fine literature. Ahmadinejads come and go. If there is any way at all to spare a nation, war, if war comes, must be conducted without "final solutions".

IBD/TIPP is also closing, +3.7 now for Obama.

I read last week somewhere that Joe Biden predicted a drop in the polls for Obama this week. Hey, Joe, when did you get so smart?

re: #91 littleoldlady

In the next 13 days? They're still trying to figure out what the pigeons know!

Is PETA protesting the poor treatment of the prisoners?

Found this today (posted it on another thread but thought it might get lost there). If all of this is true, why isn't it on the news? oh, wait...

[Link: www.nakedemperornews.com...]

re: #206 tfc3rid

We did it in Iraq and they moved their WMD because we dragged ass...

Yep, but it looks like they didn't move it all:

Yellowcake in Iraq

I've seen this reported in a number of publications, so I assume it's correct. But, how come nobody made a bigger deal about it?

Hmm.

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Coward! ;-)

re: #186 jill e

Some key decision makers in Israel fear that unless they attack Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities in the next few months, while George W Bush is still president, there will not be another period when they can rely on the United States as being anywhere near as supportive in the aftermath of a unilateral attack.

Israel is in a very difficult spot.

With the precarious world economic situation, any event that today causes worldwide financial panic- as an attack on Iran and the oil consequences- could, IMO, actually result in mass riots against Jews worldwide.

re: #214 Outrider

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

Carville was pulling that crap two weeks ago. Sounded like a threat.

re: #210 Mr. Sandman

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Shaddap!

re: #214 Outrider

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

*DING!

re: #215 WrathofG-d

Yeah, Israeli leadership has lost their stones. I hope they have the courage to act before it's too late.

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

And as always, it'll be the deluded footsoldiers of the B0 campaign who'll get thrown to the wolves, because those who instigated this, from B0 down, will be sitting safe and secure in their nice mansions, drowning their sorrows behind closed gates ... and afterwards they'll say that they never meant this to happen, and their words were taken out of context ...

re: #163 _RememberTonyC

Bush wouldn't fire Rumsfeld before 2006 because he did not want to politicize that decision. There is no way in hell he will allow Iran to be attacked before Nov. 4.....unless Iran strikes first.

re: #161 sparrowlake

Inshallah, muthafuckahs.

I am so stealing that!

re: #186 jill e

Some key decision makers in Israel fear that unless they attack Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities in the next few months, while George W Bush is still president, there will not be another period when they can rely on the United States as being anywhere near as supportive in the aftermath of a unilateral attack.

The data itself is interesting, but David Owen strikes me as a member of the axis of weasels.

re: #221 Kenneth

That might be one of the possible scenarios Joe was referring to. Suppose the "generated crises" was a preemptive strike by Israel. Joe warned that Obama's response might not be popular or perceived as the correct one. Does that mean Obama would condemn Israel & cut off all support? Is this what Joe was setting us up for?

That was what I had brought up initially... Would not shock me...

Chia Pet clip on Rush

we can not we can not we can not forgo one single solitary vote

Why does he insist on repeating every stupid thing he says? Drama queen.

That smell is back again.

re: #48 tfc3rid

If they are driving up they are doing one lousy job of it. Oil is off 7% today at 67.10 (delayed quote 1 hour stale) and gasoline is down to 1.57 off 7.2% Oh and for you goldbugs (aka members of the Paulian race that did not evolve), Gold is off 5.4% at 726.40

listening to Obama on Limbaugh.

uh uh uh

Disproportionate

/I always said that 10 to 1 is a good proportion

re: #221 Kenneth

That might be one of the possible scenarios Joe was referring to. Suppose the "generated crises" was a preemptive strike by Israel. Joe warned that Obama's response might not be popular or perceived as the correct one. Does that mean Obama would condemn Israel & cut off all support? Is this what Joe was setting us up for?

That was my first thought when I read what he said.

re: #222 Ford_Prefect

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

That was not the OJ verdict, it was the Rodney King verdict.

re: #222 Ford_Prefect

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

Considering how the moonbats have beeb behaving, you can expect ANYTHING.

re: #238 Josephine

I am so stealing that!

I think I saw a t-shirt for sale that read "Six Days, Bitch" in Hebrew.

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:
[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

I can vouch for that...it's been going on for months. Natl' Guard too. Major preparations going on. Isn't it obvious though? Either way...it's gonna be ugly.

My advice: Stay home away from windows, keep a fire extinguisher nearby and lock and load! cheers :-)

I predict that Tehran will be aglow within two weeks.

re: #161 sparrowlake

Inshallah, muthamullahfuckahs.

Couldn't resist.

re: #235 Killgore Trout

We can only hope. But some people say otherwise.

re: #251 jorline

I predict that Tehran will be aglow within two weeks.

Oh no.
Michelle will have to switch to Russian Caviar

re: #214 Outrider

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

You know, either way, win or lose, there's going to be some civil unrest. Of course, the LA riots of 1992 might be dwarfed by what might happen in the event of an Obama loss.

Of course, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will be happy that they can justify their continued existence in the event of an Obama loss. Otherwise, they become politically irrelevant.

Is there anyone less convincing than Joe Biden when trying to sound tough and authoritative?

re: #222 Ford_Prefect

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

You're thinking of Chicago after a Bulls Championship.

re: #211 midwestgak

Thank you. All I can say is that when American Jews come out of their fog of cognitive dissonance and renounce their support of the radical left dem party, I'll feel a lot better. Not holding my breath.

re: #256 bosforus

Is there anyone less convincing than Joe Biden when trying to sound tough and authoritative?

Obama

LGF not blocked from Kabul.