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One International Crisis, Coming Up

World | Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:00:14 am PDT

Looks like Joe “Nostradamus” Biden’s prediction of an international crisis if Obama is elected may come true even sooner than he thought: Top Iran officials recommend preemptive strike against Israel.

Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors, a senior Islamic Republic official told foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London.

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1 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:01:24am

Just one?
/

2 a marine mom  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:02:24am

And the one wants to sit down with dinnerjacket with no pre-conditions. OY!

3 RightLogic  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:02:56am

You don't mess with the Zohan!

4 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:23am

October surprise!

5 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:26am

Stand up and take a bow Joe, you embolden the terrorists.

6 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:28am

If Iran keeps this up, the next President may not need to worry about them. A lot can happen between Nov. 5 and Jan. 20.

7 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:39am

Cannot say what I really want to about Iran and the Obama.

9 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:47am
10 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:58am

Either the Islamic world has a change of heart, or the path they are on will lead to their world in ashes.

It is worth praying for the miracle.

11 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:03:59am

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.

12 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:04:02am

Dangerous words, there, Tehran.

/recommendation to Israel, pre-empt the pre-emptive-pre-emptive strike.

13 RightLogic  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:04:04am

A preemptive attack how? With the charge of the 3rd Camel Brigade across Iraq and Jordan?

14 Dream  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:04:10am

If this got actual legitimate coverage by the MSM this would most likely help McCain with Jewish voters he is trying to court. Sadly as we all know it wont be...

15 jcm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:04:15am

Obama will talk with the Iranians. They will listen to him just like Russia did with Georgia.

The One speaks, the world listens!
/

16 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:04:19am

Oh, $#!+.

17 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:04:48am

They'll wait until Jan. 21...but not much after that

18 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:17am

re: #12 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

That reminds me of a Dr. Seuss book.

19 sadhu  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:22am

Pakistan may be first. Today they hit the IMF up for 4-5B to avoid bankruptcy.

20 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:24am

is obama showing strength of leadership by telling them both to just stop it now?

21 pat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:28am

Iran has absolutely zero chance of pulling this off. Period. This goes along with Iran's bluff for the last 3 years that it is a great military power. It is not.

22 tophsey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:37am

but of course if the U.S. takes preemptive action to prevent Iran's attack against a sovereign country and ally, then we're the aggressors.

23 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:45am

re: #14 Dream

As a Jew, I am not convinced that support of Israel is a collective given.

24 KingKenrod  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:05:49am

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

25 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:06:04am

Pre-emptive strikes can only prevent attacks if they are over-whelming.

26 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:06:17am

re: #8 MichaelAsher

The Spinoffs are there for a reason.

27 x-wing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:06:39am

re: #13 RightLogic

A preemptive attack how? With the charge of the 3rd Camel Brigade across Iraq and Jordan?

lol. with pitch forks and shovels at the ready.

28 P. Aaron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:07:12am

Nice work Joe! SCENARIO: Iran attackes Israel, Israel strikes back with great effect.

Obama (along with the 'civilized world') admonishes Israel, and sends Iran a blank check consisting of US aid & apologies.

29 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:07:16am

re: #19 sadhu

lol, doesn't he seem like the type who would threaten to swat the mullah's behind if they act baaaaad?

30 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:07:24am

This is what I've been worried about. When Joe said it "wouldn't be apparent" that they are doing the right thing, I was thinking it meant that they would leave Israel twisting in the wind if she were attacked.

Hard to know, exactly, what they're thinking - but given the past statements of Obama's ex-ish foreign policy advisor Samantha Power, I have to wonder.

31 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:08:05am

Given the military prowess that Iran has demonstrated to date, perhaps they mean that they will use Photoshop to remove Israel from the map.
/

32 MJBrutus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:08:16am

re: #11 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.

You got that right. Boy, the prospect of them launching a "preemptive" attack is too much to hope for. But I'll hope for it just the same. This world would be an immeasurably better place if those stinking rug merchants in Tehran gave the Israelis such an excuse to make their day.

33 Sprite  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:08:34am

"Say it ain't so, Joe."

34 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:08:53am

BTW, where is Biden?

35 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:09:00am

re: #31 CyanSnowHawk
Too funny!

36 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:09:00am

Thanks for the warning, Joe!

37 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:09:15am

This would be the mullah who didn't finish reading the book that began with "Chapter 1: Pearl Harbor."

38 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:09:45am
39 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:00am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

The Villages?

40 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:11am

A lot of folks, myself included, feel that Israel is bound to attack Iran's nuke sites after Election Day. Is Iran planning on attacking Israel before then?

41 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:11am

If we get President Obama, we will also get a war that engulfs the entire middle east. The Iranians will think they have Jimmah Jr. in the White House, and they will be right. Right after he is sworn in, they will start thinking about causing problems in the Straits and in Israel......Does anyone think they would act that way with President McCain? They know they would get their teeth kicked in with him. Obama is an opportunity for them.....they will play chicken with him and my money is on "the One" balking first.

42 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:15am

re: #30 capitalist piglet

What I see is a major international fustercluck with the pack of idiots surrounding this duo. Carter X 10.

43 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:34am

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

44 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:36am

re: #38 Kenneth

No brain scans in released Biden medical records

...fixed that for ya, Joe!

They all came back negative. You cannot scan what is not there.

45 redinla  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:39am

I think the only crisis N0bama would have will be deciding between surrendering or capitulating. Failure is a given.

46 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:50am

re: #39 loppyd

The Villages?

Cool, they got their idiot back.

47 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:10:59am

re: #39 loppyd

The Villages?

I heard they are missing an idiot or two.

48 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:11:58am

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Ding, ding ding!

49 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:11:58am

re: #41 Desert Dog

Obama won't balk, why he will give a great speech. And if that doesn't work, he'll give another speech.

50 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:12:34am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool On his way to Hawaii. I think.
That or back to that nifty new rubber room that Obama had made especially for Joe!

51 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:12:47am
Safavi said Tehran recently drafted a new policy for responding to an Israeli or American attack on its nuclear facilities. While the previous policy called for attacks against Israel and American interests in the Middle East and beyond, the new policy is to target Israel alone.

Hey look, it's now safe for the US to attack Iran./

52 sngnsgt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:10am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

He's in hiding so he doesn't make any more gaffes in opposition to "The One's" talking points.

53 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:12am

re: #49 Kenneth

Obama won't balk, why he will give a great speech. And if that doesn't work, he'll give another speech.

I wonder what sort of set he'll have constructed for the occasion(s).

54 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:17am

re: #40 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A lot of folks, myself included, feel that Israel is bound to attack Iran's nuke sites after Election Day. Is Iran planning on attacking Israel before then?

Geez... Come on... Their nuclear plants are for energy purposes... Man, we here are calling for more nuke plants... What's everyone's problem? Can I please finish my waffle?

55 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:26am

re: #43 Josephine

If all else fails, I'm certain the Obama's will be able to score some of that yummy Iranian caviar.

56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:34am

Don't worry. Obama will send Sec of State Kerry with a strongly worded recommendation to cease and desist.

Lt. Nuance will work out the details over tea.

57 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:44am

I want to know who/how this got to the Israelis, and why it's been leaked.

I'm not saying anything negative about the story.

I'm merely wondering about motive ... ALL the way around.

58 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:13:56am

re: #23 vagabond trader

As a Jew, I am not convinced that support of Israel is a collective given.

Hi Vaga,

I am always sad to be reminded of the lack of jewish support for Israel.

I worked with a woman a few years ago - a liberal whose most favorite president was Carter. She one day told me she was Jewish on her mothers side (don't remember why the subject came up). She said it like it was an embarrassment to her. I just don't understand that.

59 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:07am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

Getting his jaw wired shut.

60 wahabicorridor  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:14am

So Israeli intelligence got an intercept of a meeting between Safavi and 'foreign diplomats' in London. I'd love to know who those diplomats are.

What I also find interesting is that 'talks' between Iran and US are good to go if Obama is elected but not McCain. No clue that a pre-emptive strike on Israel is dependent on the election. Small group of hardliners, huh?

Safavi said he believed that U.S. sanctions on Iran have run their course, and that there would be no point in strengthening them.

We don't have to strengthen them as long as the price of oil keeps falling. Their inflation is at 30% and rising.

61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:14am

So, in order to prevent the Israelis from preventing an attack on Israel by attacking Iran, Iran will attack Israel, thereby preventing the prevention, but what if now Israel plans to prevent the prevention to prevent the attack?

62 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:35am

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

Of course, because we would pull our troops out of the Middle East, like Obama wants and like Iran wants... Then Iran can take over the Middle East...

63 Ojoe  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:39am

re: #24 KingKenrod

However they are fools.

64 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:52am

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

yes, because they think he is on their side AND they know he is weak.
either way, they think they will get what they want.
it should scare everyone that all these islamic regimes are in his cheering section.

65 redinla  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:55am

re: #49 Kenneth

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

66 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:14:55am
Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors, a senior Islamic Republic official told foreign diplomats two weeks ago in London.

The Iranians only precondition is nuclear fission.

67 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:15:02am

re: #46 gonecamping

Cool, they got their idiot back.

LOL

68 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:15:18am

re: #58 midwestgak

Hi Vaga,

I am always sad to be reminded of the lack of jewish support for Israel.

I worked with a woman a few years ago - a liberal whose most favorite president was Carter. She one day told me she was Jewish on her mothers side (don't remember why the subject came up). She said it like it was an embarrassment to her. I just don't understand that.

Sometimes it's hard to be proud of your self-hatred.

69 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:15:35am

As an aside to this, the Demcorat operatives are flooding the airwaves saying that of course Biden is correct, but he means any new President.
Bull, Biden prfaced his comment witgh 'if we are elected" & made itg clear that he was referring to an inexperienced BHO.

70 x-wing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:15:58am

re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't worry. Obama will send Sec of State Kerry with a strongly worded recommendation to cease and desist.

Yeah, to Israel
/

71 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:16:17am

re: #59 gonecamping

Getting his jaw wired shut.

LOL! Somebody much smarter than I - on a thread from a day or so ago, coined the perfect term: Said that Joe Biden was Gaffe-tacular.

Jaw wiring = good idea.

:-)

72 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:16:31am

re: #65 redinla

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

IIRC, the press reported a spike in the STDs after viagra hit the market.

73 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:16:47am

Pre-emptive.

It is all just self-defense as they kill the infidels.

Daily.

What's the count at thereligionofpeace.com today?

74 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:16:58am

re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Don't worry. Obama will send Sec of State Kerry with a strongly worded recommendation to cease and desist.

Lt. Nuance will work out the details over tea.

"Stop, or I shall say STOP again, but with a more forceful tone!"

75 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:11am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?

Locked up somewhere until after the polls close on Nov. 4th.

76 x-wing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:14am

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, in order to prevent the Israelis from preventing an attack on Israel by attacking Iran, Iran will attack Israel, thereby preventing the prevention, but what if now Israel plans to prevent the prevention to prevent the attack?

Good point. I say have at it ;>}

/

77 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:22am

re: #56 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Lt. Nuance will work out the details over tea.

They will wrap field telephone cord around his private parts and give the crank a few vigorous spins.

/in my fondest dreams

78 Equable  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:24am

They're mad. If Israel takes the leash off of the Mossad, you're going to see a lot of people disappear.

79 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:33am

re: #71 subsailor68

LOL! Somebody much smarter than I - on a thread from a day or so ago, coined the perfect term: Said that Joe Biden was Gaffe-tacular.

Jaw wiring = good idea.

:-)


How long before Rush starts calling gaffes 'Bidenisms'

80 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:46am

re: #65 redinla

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

You knew this was coming.

81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:52am

re: #54 tfc3rid

What happened to your avatar?

82 realwest  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:17:58am

re: #45 redinla I have to say I'm not sure I agree that Obama would surrender or capitulate. I mean he's said at least half-a-dozen times in public that, with regards to Afghanistan, he's fully in favor of attacking a nuclear armed Pakistan (and to hell with Pakistan's best ally, China).
And anyone willing to invade a Muslim Nation, much less a nuclear armed Muslim Nation, might not capitualte or surrender when Israel, after fending off Iran's puny pre-emptive strike, wipes Iran off the face of the earth as well!

83 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:18:28am

re: #79 gonecamping

How long before Rush starts calling gaffes 'Bidenisms'

Funny! Hey, it made Spooner famous, right?

:-)

84 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:18:32am

re: #69 opnion

At the top of the hour I heard a sound byte of Barry O saying that 'of course' there will be a crisis, it happens all the time...

Not to worry folks... It will happen anyway...

85 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:18:46am

re: #19 sadhu

Pakistan may be first. Today they hit the IMF up for 4-5B to avoid bankruptcy.

Blimey - what happened to all the billions the USA gave them?

86 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:08am

re: #81 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What happened to your avatar?

Ahhh, good point... What the?

87 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:10am

re: #24 KingKenrod

Spot on. They are hurting at less than $70 a barrel and they didn't have a great economy in the first place. Lots of bluster to scare the traders, little substance. (My take: the "crisis" will be either a negotiation with the Taliban or a US strike on Iran -- AFTER the election.)

88 Bobibutu  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:10am

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Anything below $75 and they are in major financial trouble. What was it this morning? $70? and now $65 ...

89 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:10am

re: #55 vagabond trader

If all else fails, I'm certain the Obama's will be able to score some of that yummy Iranian caviar.

So we know what he and Michelle will be noshing on when Israel goes up in smoke? (God forbid.)

I can't tell you how depressed this makes me.

America, I am counting on you to vote for John McCain!

90 RedinLA  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:11am

I humbly think Joe "Nostradumbass" Biden is more appropriate.

91 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:26am

re: #40 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A lot of folks, myself included, feel that Israel is bound to attack Iran's nuke sites after Election Day. Is Iran planning on attacking Israel before then?

In the next 13 days? They're still trying to figure out what the pigeons know!

92 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:47am

Present !

93 Dianna  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:51am

re: #63 Ojoe

However they are fools.

Correction: They're quite mad. Taken over by Thanatos, half in love with easeful death...sweet death, kind death....

94 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:19:53am

re: #74 Desert Dog

"Stop, or I shall say STOP again, but with a more forceful tone!"

Reminds me of Demolition Man

Squad Leader: Simon Phoenix! Lie down with your hands behind your back.
Simon Phoenix: What's this? Six of you. Such nice, tidy uniforms. Oh I'm so scared! What you guys don't have sarcasm anymore?
Squad Leader: Maniac has responded with a scornful remark.
automated assistant: Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, "or else".

95 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:20:03am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

Heavily drugged and stuffed into a trunk, if I were running the Obama campaign.

96 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:20:48am

re: #93 Dianna

Correction: They're quite mad. Taken over by Thanatos, half in love with easeful death...sweet death, kind death....

Where is Atropos when you need her?

97 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:20:52am

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Good point.

Oil per barrel went through $67 today.


Iran break-even at 90 or 75, depending how you look at it

Iran's breakeven is $90Russia

98 jaunte  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:20:53am

This appears to be a reverse of the Iranian behavior (letting the hostages go) when Reagan succeeded Carter. The appearance of weakness and irresolution emboldens the enemy.

99 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:20:57am

re: #58 midwestgak


So many American Jews are now several generations removed from the pogroms of Europe and Russia, they are comfortable in their assimilation. History forgotten and all that. I am a proud first generation American who is also grateful that Jews have their own safe haven in this world.It was not so long ago that we were denied the safety of America during WWII.

100 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:12am

re: #84 tfc3rid

And the crisis will be because the World forgot that Bush was no longer President.

101 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:15am

I'm sure Obama would be a voice of reason following a pre-emptive attack by Iran, urging Israel to observe restraint.

102 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:17am

Iran is only a part of the problem.

But as we go about bashing Obama's potential treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict (ie: The Arab/Muslim World's continuing attempts to destroy Israel) we must look at how well our own Government is treating the issue as we speak.


Hamas Welcomes Egyptian Plan To Have Hamas Meld With Fatah And Become Part Of The PLO/PA

Then we have:

U.S. Gives 150-Million To PLO

103 Maximu§  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:22am

and so it begins.....to all the innocent Iranians that are about to get Whacked, We are sorry you choose your leaders so poorly and that they decided to threaten America and Israel with death.

When the radiation clears, give us a ring and lets talk.

104 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:23am

re: #24 KingKenrod

Iran trying to drive up the price of oil. They would be fools to start anything.

Drill here, drill now.

105 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:21:30am

I

a. question the timing
b. blame the Jooos
c. want my Maypo

106 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:22:13am

Americans Oppose Income Redistribution to Fix Economy
Half say the government is doing too much, 43% too little to solve country's problems

...Americans' lack of support for redistributing wealth to fix the economy spans political parties: Republicans (by 90% to 9%) prefer that the government focus on improving the economy, as do independents (by 85% to 13%) and Democrats (by 77% to 19%). This sentiment also extends across income groups: upper-income Americans prefer that the government focus on improving the economy and jobs by 88% to 10%, concurring with middle-income (83% to 16%) and lower-income (78% to 17%) Americans. ...
107 Desert Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:22:32am

re: #85 yma o hyd

Blimey - what happened to all the billions the USA gave them?

I am sure it was spent on noble causes....you know, fancy cars, houses, big screen TV, rpgs for the Taliban, hush money for Pashtun warlords, etc, etc....and the balance, I would guess is in Geneva at the Yassir Arafat Memorial Terrorist Bank, LLC

108 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:22:43am

I knew many Iranians (considered themselves Persians) in Los Angeles (before I sobered up and moved to Texas). They were smart, beautiful, nice people.

I also knew, and know, many Jewish folks, and they're smart, beautiful, nice people as well.

The idea that these mad mullahs and that Sonny Bono looking idiot could bring death and destruction to both nations is maddening!

Oh for a way to "deal with" those people before they have a chance to act

109 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:22:48am

re: #101 Kenneth

Even if the world is infuriated with the chemical, nuclear, or standard attack on Israel, after it happened, how does that help the million dead Israelis?

110 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:22:58am

Iranians shilling for Obama.....

Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that "the nuclear case is closed," and put it back on the agenda.


Surprise!

111 sngnsgt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:04am

From Drudge:

If not an International Crisis, national police are preparing for a national crisis if 'The One' isn't elected:

Police prepare for unrest

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.

Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas (following professional sports events) and also on Internet rumors.

The Hill

112 Maximu§  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:16am

re: #107 Desert Dog

I am sure it was spent on noble causes....you know, fancy cars, houses, big screen TV, rpgs for the Taliban, hush money for Pashtun warlords, etc, etc....and the balance, I would guess is in Geneva at the Yassir Arafat Memorial Terrorist Bank, LLC


You forgot the expensive Hookers.

113 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:18am

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

The former Soviet Union would loudly denounce this statement as 'unlawful intervention into the internal politics of a sovereign state'.

If that is not a blatant way of infulencing the outcome of free elections in another state then I know nuthin ...

114 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:23am

re: #102 WrathofG-d

Iran is only a part of the problem.

But as we go about bashing Obama's potential treatment of the Arab-Israeli conflict (ie: The Arab/Muslim World's continuing attempts to destroy Israel) we must look at how well our own Government is treating the issue as we speak.


Hamas Welcomes Egyptian Plan To Have Hamas Meld With Fatah And Become Part Of The PLO/PA

Then we have:

U.S. Gives 150-Million To PLO

Self-delusion, compounded by political correctness.

115 cman70  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:27am

re: #30 capitalist piglet

...or, remember who he was talking to at the time. Actually standing by Israel wouldn't be the apparent right thing to do to those attending an Obama/Biden rally.
Not that I would Obama doing that.

116 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:31am

re: #62 tfc3rid

Of course, because we would pull our troops out of the Middle East, like Obama wants and like Iran wants... Then Iran can take over the Middle East...

But the Saudis don't want Iran in charge, do they? Aren't the Saudis are the ones with more influence in America?

Who are the Saudis supporting in this election? Have they said anything?

117 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:23:35am

re: #102 WrathofG-d

WTF? If you mix piss with water do you get a glass of clean water or piss water? Only the State Dept could swallow such a deal.

118 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:10am

re: #108 subsailor68

We are to some degree. Oil is below $70/barrel. They are squeaking because we are stepping on them.

119 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:17am

Don't worry folks, Obama will be consulting his top middle-east analyst Rashid Khalidi to get advice on how to handle this crisis

120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:20am

re: #82 realwest

I have to say I'm not sure I agree that Obama would surrender or
capitulate. I mean he's said at least half-a-dozen times in public
that, with regards to Afghanistan, he's fully in favor of attacking a
nuclear armed Pakistan (and to hell with Pakistan's best ally, China).
And
anyone willing to invade a Muslim Nation, much less a nuclear armed
Muslim Nation, might not capitualte or surrender when Israel, after
fending off Iran's puny pre-emptive strike, wipes Iran off the face of
the earth as well!

Michael Smerconish, a "conservative" talk-show host here in Philly, is voting for Obama because he actually believes that Barry will attack Pakistan if they don't give up Bin Laden.

121 Hellfire  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:37am

I remember hearing that there was a saying over there in Israel, something like " American Jews would fight to the last Israeli". At first I didn't get that one, but then it started making sense.

122 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:43am

re: #100 gonecamping

And the crisis will be because the World forgot that Bush was no longer President.

The World 'couldn't wait' till the Bush 'regime' was out of power and nowthey are going to wish there was some 'cowboy' left...

123 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:48am

re: #106 J.D.

Americans' lack of support for redistributing wealth ... Democrats (by 77% to 19%).

Which just proves that most of those that vote Democrat don't actually want the socialism they are voting for. They have been deceived into believing, often, that the GOP hates whatever group they are: blacks, women, Catholics, Jews, unions, "working people", gays, youths, etc.

124 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:50am

Re: Obama-like policies regarding "peace gestures" to our enemies.

Sami Kuntar (Recently released by Obama-like PM Ehud Olmert) Vows To Work To Destroy Israel

When are we going to wake up and realize that this limp-wristed, weak, behavior towards our enemy ISN'T working!?

125 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:24:59am

re: #85 yma o hyd

Blimey - what happened to all the billions the USA gave them?

"What billions?!?"

/pock-ee-stahni officials

126 Opinionated  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:25:08am

I know how Casandra must have felt when she saw that large horse with its promise of peace and change.

Powerless as most everyone is oblivious to a dark future that is obvious.

127 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:25:32am

re: #118 CyanSnowHawk

We are to some degree. Oil is below $70/barrel. They are squeaking because we are stepping on them.

Thanks for that. You're right of course, and it gives me hope (well, some at least).

128 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:25:44am

re: #101 Kenneth

I'm sure Obama would be a voice of reason following a pre-emptive attack by Iran, urging Israel to observe restraint.

What was the term used during the Hezballah war? That Israel was using unbalanced force? Yeah, they will urge them not to use unbalanced force...

129 Hucbald  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:25:51am

Please, do it before Bush leaves office. Please.

130 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:25:58am

re: #123 Silhouette

You always forget we don't care about the elderly, they say.

131 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:26:10am

re: #61 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So, in order to prevent the Israelis from preventing an attack on Israel by attacking Iran, Iran will attack Israel, thereby preventing the prevention, but what if now Israel plans to prevent the prevention to prevent the attack?

That made my brain hurt.

132 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:26:22am

re: #111 sngnsgt

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.

They never come out and say it, do they?

What makes this contest historic, guys? We've had elections before. Even about wars. Even heated ones.

133 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:27:08am

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

134 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:27:14am

re: #111 sngnsgt

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

135 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:27:32am

re: #82 realwest

I have to say I'm not sure I agree that Obama would surrender or capitulate. I mean he's said at least half-a-dozen times in public that, with regards to Afghanistan, he's fully in favor of attacking a nuclear armed Pakistan (and to hell with Pakistan's best ally, China).
And anyone willing to invade a Muslim Nation, much less a nuclear armed Muslim Nation, might not capitualte or surrender when Israel, after fending off Iran's puny pre-emptive strike, wipes Iran off the face of the earth as well!

Oh, it's all sabre-rattling and its going on on all sides. Isn't that evident?

136 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:27:52am

re: #132 Silhouette

They never come out and say it, do they?

What makes this contest historic, guys? We've had elections before. Even about wars. Even heated ones.

Because we may have our first Italian President?
Obama does end in a vowel, after all.

137 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:27:57am

re: #130 J.D.

You always forget we don't care about the elderly, they say.

Oops, you're right.

It's because I hate old people, you know.

138 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:27:58am

re: #106 J.D.

Americans Oppose Income Redistribution to Fix Economy
Half say the government is doing too much, 43% too little to solve country's problems

McCain should run an ad blitz on the last three days, showcasing the conversation between Joe Wurzelbacher and The One.

And, oh yeah -

J.D.!

139 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:18am

re: #134 tfc3rid

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

Yes, he does 'post' 'race' as an issue a lot. /

Hello Lizards!

140 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:24am

re: #111 sngnsgt

There will definitely be foul play in this election, but not from the R side.

141 Wishing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:26am

I have been incommunicado for nine days: no internet, no cell phones, no nothing...And i come home to THIS? Oy

142 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:26am

re: #43 Josephine

From the article:

"Safavi also said that a victory by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama would pave the way for dialogue with Washington, while a John McCain presidency would bolster Iran's extreme right, which opposes dialogue. If conditions are favorable following the U.S. election, he said, Iran could draw back from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's declaration that 'the nuclear case is closed,' and put it back on the agenda."

Islamic Regimes for Obama.

Complete disinformation. They are terrified of McCain and would welcome the linguini-spined Obama. Now, that could backfire on them if they do make a move, and Obama decides to try to look presidential by nuking them into the arms of Allah. Either way, we are unquestionably safer with McCain in the White House.

143 kansas  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:29am

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

BTW, where is Biden?


Check under the bus.

144 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:30am

re: #133 MandyManners

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD!

Now that's funny! Bet that Code Pink moron is even more furious she was stopped before she could "arrest" him.

145 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:44am

re: #109 WrathofG-d

I may be getting cynical, but the world won't give a damn for the dead Israelis. The Arab street will be dancing.

146 Catttt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:48am

OT:

It's all even on the homestretch:

Since the last AP-GfK survey in late September, McCain also has:

_Posted big gains among likely voters earning under $50,000 a year; he now trails Obama by just 4 percentage points compared with 26 earlier.

_Surged among rural voters; he has an 18-point advantage, up from 4.

_Doubled his advantage among whites who haven't finished college and now leads by 20 points. McCain and Obama are running about even among white college graduates, no change from earlier.

_Made modest gains among whites of both genders, now leading by 22 points among white men and by 7 among white women.

_Improved slightly among whites who are married, now with a 24-point lead.

_Narrowed a gap among unmarried whites, though he still trails by 8 points.

147 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:56am

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

re: #117 Kenneth

The biggest problem with Hamas becoming part of the PLO, is that we, the U.S. (and Israel) have been funding, arming, training, and backing Fatah for the last 5+ years. Thus when Hamas becomes the PLO/PA, they will become in possession of the infrastructure, weapons, training and money the U.S. has given Fatah/PLO/PA.

The irony is that the argument for funding Fatah is such huge amounts was that it was necessary to hedge them against the Islamist Hamas.

ONCE AGAIN, the PLO/PA has used the "bad cop/good cop" to dupe the "good intentioned" West. Hitoreri, Hitoreri America!

148 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:28:59am

re: #132 Silhouette

They never come out and say it, do they?

What makes this contest historic, guys? We've had elections before. Even about wars. Even heated ones.

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

149 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:11am

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Smerconish is conservative like I'm a ballerina. (Hint: I'm an obese male. Or is that TMI?)

150 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:13am

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Idiot

151 FloridaAnole  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:14am

Whatever the current administration does, provided it is halfway effective, you can bet that Obama will chirp up, stating that it was all his idea (sort of the way he was taking notes during the debates and then paraphrasing whatever McCain said, in order to sound statesmanlike). The media will give him credit for it, in their desparate hope to get this fraud elected.

152 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:18am

re: #140 vagabond trader

There will definitely be foul play in this election, but not from the R side.

There already IS foul play going on...

153 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:22am

Does Iran have a significant number of missiles capable of delivering a chem/bio/nuke warhead to Israel? I wouldn't discount the idea that Iran has acquired enough fissionable material, in small amounts from various sources, for at least one bomb. Does Israel have a "launch on warning" policy? I can't believe they'd wait to absorb a first strike.

154 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:30am

re: #144 subsailor68

Now that's funny! Bet that Code Pink moron is even more furious she was stopped before she could "arrest" him.

And Rove elbowed her? Priceless.

155 Catttt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:33am

I just read that McCain has a new "I am Joe the Plumber" ad! YES!

156 Dianna  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:35am

re: #96 CyanSnowHawk

Where is Atropos when you need her?

Indeed!

157 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:40am

re: #147 WrathofG-d

Bingo. A thousand updings for that!

158 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:42am

re: #137 Silhouette

Oops, you're right.

It's because I hate old people, you know.

Well that's what "they" say about "us".
I hate 'em so much I always shred that AARP junkmail as soon as I find it in the mailbox.

159 CapeCoddah  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:29:56am

re: #39 loppyd

The Villages?

Do The Villages have a detox facility?

160 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:03am

re: #149 joncelli

Smerconish is conservative like I'm a ballerina. (Hint: I'm an obese male. Or is that TMI?)

Hence my quotes around "conservative"

161 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:13am

Just like the Arabs, Iranians talk real tough but fortunately they never have been able to fight worth a shit. With US assistance, Israel will soon destroy the Iranian nuclear program and to decimate their military response capability.
Inshallah, muthafuckahs.

162 Catttt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:13am

Oh. I just saw the previous thread is the AP story. Duh.

Back to work for me!

163 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:24am

It is extremely painful to say this, but obama is about 90% certain to be elected. While it will be a huge mistake by our fellow citizens to vote him in, they are going to do it. McCain f'd up big time by taking a pass on the wright connection, and an even bigger mistake by selecting Palin. So the handwriting is on the wall. If Israel has its basic plans in place, it would do well to make its move on iran before the election for two major reasons.

1. It will need to be done eventually and by doing it sooner, it might actually focus the voters on McCain's strengths before November 4th.

2. It will need to be done eventually and if the Israelis realize obama will be CIC, they have a freer hand to act now while Dubya is still CIC.

Just my two cents ...

164 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:25am

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

This election is historic because we might have our first female Veep.

165 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:26am

re: #138 Ward Cleaver

McCain should run an ad blitz on the last three days, showcasing the conversation between Joe Wurzelbacher and The One.

And, oh yeah -

J.D.!

yes WARD!

166 Iron Fist  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:29am

re: #103 Maximu§

Glassifaction Pacification. That's how we should have started this war in 2001. Hit them so damn hard that they will be an example of what happens when you kill Americans. Something like how the Romans handled Carthage, but at sub-orbital velocities.

167 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:34am

re: #122 tfc3rid

The World 'couldn't wait' till the Bush 'regime' was out of power and nowthey are going to wish there was some 'cowboy' left...


You've got that right. Peace through strength should be every administration's motto, but I fear Obama believes in bondage through submission. He is more of a traitor than the soviet spys from the days of the cold war. His planned destruction of the United States as we know it is insidious and non too subtle, but the MSM is right next to him in lockstep.

168 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:35am

re: #128 tfc3rid

"disproportionate force"

169 FloridaAnole  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:36am

re: #134 tfc3rid

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

Obama is the post-human-racial candidate. He is a totally artificial construct.

170 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:36am

re: #65 redinla

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

America's Friendliest Hometown.

171 Wags  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:46am

Biden made his comments because he, like most Dems (expect the One) are getting scared of the prospects of winning and actually having to put up or shut up. They are scared of the tough decisions that lay ahead. It’s a heck of a lot easier to criticize and blame republicans rather than implementing sound and logical policy.

172 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:30:50am

re: #159 CapeCoddah

Do The Villages have a detox facility?

LOL

Florida's friendliest hometown.

173 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:31:02am

re: #159 CapeCoddah

Do The Villages have a detox facility?

Maybe this store is located in The Villages.

174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:31:06am

re: #131 MrSilverDragon

That made my brain hurt.

Wait until Iran annouces it will prevent any prevention to prevent the prevention of an attempted prevention of.....

Wait, I lost my place.

175 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:31:22am

re: #154 Ward Cleaver

And Rove elbowed her? Priceless.

Hmmm...is that what it was? From the brief look I got, I thought he was just pulling his arm away....


I like your observation much, much better.

:-)

176 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:31:43am

re: #64 nyc redneck

yes, because they think he is on their side AND they know he is weak.
either way, they think they will get what they want.
it should scare everyone that all these islamic regimes are in his cheering section.

It scares the heck out of me.

All of this pandering to the peaceniks.

As if the "peace at all costs" crowd represents the majority of Americans.

Sometimes you have to fight back in order not to be beaten into the ground. I guess the self-esteem crowd's mommies did all their fighting for them so they could wave their banners in the schoolyard and feel good about themselves.

The trouble is, they're not dealing in reality. If reality were only going to bite them in the butts I wouldn't care, but in this case, it'll bite us all -- big time -- and I doubt they'll even notice that they were responsible. After all, nothing is their fault (the mantra of self-esteem).

177 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:32:22am

re: #171 Wags

Biden made his comments because he, like most Dems (expect the One) are getting scared of the prospects of winning and actually having to put up or shut up. They are scared of the tough decisions that lay ahead. It’s a heck of a lot easier to criticize and blame republicans rather than implementing sound and logical policy.

Ya think? So, Biden doesn't want to step up to the plate?

178 Maximu§  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:32:30am

re: #166 Iron Fist

Glassifaction Pacification. That's how we should have started this war in 2001. Hit them so damn hard that they will be an example of what happens when you kill Americans. Something like how the Romans handled Carthage, but at sub-orbital velocities.

Your my FK'ng Hero!

179 sngnsgt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:32:32am

re: #140 vagabond trader

Agreed, the left is going to do anything legal, and or illegal to insure 'The One' is elected. The press will play ignorant. Excuse me, more ignorant.

180 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:32:52am

re: #174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wait until Iran annouces it will prevent any prevention to prevent the prevention of an attempted prevention of.....

Wait, I lost my place.

And ounce of prevention is worth a *POUND*

181 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:33:07am

re: #160 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

So you didn't think the "obese male" thing was over the top? I mean, do I look fat in these jeans?

182 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:33:14am

My own impression is Dr. Seyed G. Safavi is floating that out there to see how the world reacts to it. If the world pulls an, "Ho hum", then we will have to worry. Safavi is pretty high up there, as is his brother.

If the world reacts strongly, or the US reacts strongly, then Ahmadenjad can easily say, it is not Iranian policy, just an idea floating around by some people, some reactionaries.

183 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:02am

re: #181 joncelli

So you didn't think the "obese male" thing was over the top? I mean, do I look fat in these jeans?

Dont go blaming the jeans

/ducks

184 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:05am

re: #65 redinla

He'll also furrow his brow and slowly wag his head. That'll show them.

Does Barry's health care plan cover Valtrex?

STDs run rampant at the Villages

Old guy at the Villages goes to his doctor and says " the lady next door told me she had TB, or maybe it was VD. I can't tell , I'm hard of hearing. We have a date tomorrow night, what do I do"?

The doctor says, "chase her around the room, if she coughs you can _____ her"

185 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:06am

re: #173 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Maybe this store is located in The Villages.


At least it's fresh.

187 sharp_discernment  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:18am

What would Obama say in response?....

"Both sides ought to show restraint"

188 J.D.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:21am

re: #172 loppyd

LOL

Florida's friendliest hometown.

I know people who have relatives there and if you are a guy in that atmosphere, you will be overrun by women who want to bake for you, cook for you, and so on and so forth.

189 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:34:33am

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Michael Smerconish, a "conservative" talk-show host here in Philly, is voting for Obama because he actually believes that Barry will attack Pakistan if they don't give up Bin Laden.

I think it will take something else entirely to cause that.

For instance, this scenario...

Feb. 25th, 2009
SoS Kerry: President Obama, Iran has just detonated a nuclear bomb in Tel Aviv.
POTUS Obama: What? After all those assurances? How is this possible? We'll show them, attack Pakistan immediately!

190 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:04am

re: #168 Kenneth

"disproportionate force"

Thanks Kenneth...

191 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:34am

re: #188 J.D.

I know people who have relatives there and if you are a guy in that atmosphere, you will be overrun by women who want to bake for you, cook for you, and so on and so forth.

Sounds like my kind of place!

192 Cicero05  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:39am

How insane is it to broadcast the fact that you're going to hit your enemy preemptively? Especially when your opponent has an impressive record of preemptive strikes of its own.

193 El Lizardo mejicano  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:43am

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:

[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

194 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:45am

re: #134 tfc3rid

Obama is the post-racial candidate...

Yes, ever since he threw Jerry and Louis under the bus. And of course his latest post-racial endorsement from the post-racist Colin Powell.

195 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:35:58am

re: #178 Maximu§

Your my FK'ng Hero!

Heh, heh, mine too.

"You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone .” – Al Capone (Entrepreneuer)

197 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:15am

re: #153 Son of the Black Dog

Yes, Iran has many missiles, but only a few that can reach Israel. Syria, which is essentially a forward military base of Iran has thousands of short & hundreds of medium range missiles. Israel has very advance radar and satellite systems. If they detect activity at missile sites in Iran or Syria, the IDF would act fast. Waiting to "absorb" the first strike so as to look good in the eyes of the world would be pointless & suicidal.

Here comes the Six Hour War

198 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:21am

re: #186 jill e

Boy are they correct... I would be very embarrassed to be an American if we did not stand up for Israel...

199 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:31am

re: #13 RightLogic

You don't reckon they'll be usin' the Ninja BootCamp Corps?

200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:36am

re: #181 joncelli

So you didn't think the "obese male" thing was over the top? I mean, do I look fat in these jeans?

What Kragar said.

201 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:37am

re: #182 Outrider

My own impression is Dr. Seyed G. Safavi is floating that out there to see how the world reacts to it.

That's a distinct possibility. See mine above re motive.

re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat

WTF's going on here?

202 El Lizardo mejicano  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:40am

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:

[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

Corrected

203 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:36:41am

re: #186 jill e

At this point I think Israel is waiting until after the election but before Obama takes office. This was they get to avoid the accusations of interfering with our politics.

204 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:03am

re: #170 Son of the Black Dog

America's Friendliest Hometown.



A doctor blamed Viagra, a lack of sex education and no risk for pregnancy for the spike in sexually transmitted diseases at The Villages.

Older folks need sex education?

205 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:06am

re: #157 Kenneth

To tie everything together. With Obama's wide-eyed, and naively optimistic "everyone just needs to sit down and talk and we can simply work this out" attitude, this situation of the U.S. getting duped by the Islamists is going to get a billion times worse.

With Obama, we will once again go back to square-one as if Camp David, Oslo I & II, The Disengagement, and Lebanon II never happened. With HOPE and Middle East Peace Process CHANGE in policy abound, the brave, new, young Obama will then give the uncompromising, still-want-to-destroy-Israel, and as-of-now yet-to-even-think-of-giving-up-Terrorism-as-is-the -first-requirement-of-any-agreement-with-the-Phake stinians, a "peace gesture" of leaning on Israel to give up all post 1967 land, to show that the U.S. can be more "balanced".

I surely expect to repeat this argument that the West needs to wake up and understand that these "peace gestures" and weakness has failed too many times in the past to try again, after Obama tries it.

I just hope Israel is around at that time to make the argument for!

206 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:29am

re: #192 Cicero05

How insane is it to broadcast the fact that you're going to hit your enemy preemptively? Especially when your opponent has an impressive record of preemptive strikes of its own.


We did it in Iraq and they moved their WMD because we dragged ass...

207 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:39am

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

I think they think there's a danger of riots either way. The thought had not occurred to me until yesterday, and it's not a pleasant one.

208 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:40am

re: #192 Cicero05

How insane is it to broadcast the fact that you're going to hit your enemy preemptively? Especially when your opponent has an impressive record of preemptive strikes of its own.

Or how insane is it to announce when you are going to pull all your troops out of a fight?

209 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:40am

re: #191 loppyd

Sounds like my kind of place!

You want to be overrun by old women who want to, ahem, you?

210 Mr. Sandman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:45am

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

211 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:37:54am

re: #99 vagabond trader

I am a proud first generation American who is also grateful that Jews have their own safe haven in this world.It was not so long ago that we were denied the safety of America during WWII.

Proud to have you as an American citizen.

Are there any signs that this trend is changing to more closely reflect your view?

212 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:38:15am

re: #142 doppelganglander

Complete disinformation. They are terrified of McCain and would welcome the linguini-spined Obama. Now, that could backfire on them if they do make a move, and Obama decides to try to look presidential by nuking them into the arms of Allah. Either way, we are unquestionably safer with McCain in the White House.

Gawd - that is not beyond the realm of possibilities, and would fit in nicely with the Biden gaffe about them doing things people wouldn't like.

Its always those who have no idea what war is like who go for it, never those who have experienced it and see it as a last resort.
The Iraq war is a case in point, in spite of what the moonbats want everybody to believe.

213 kansas  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:38:21am

re: #210 Mr. Sandman

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Oh yeah, we're falling for that one Mohammed.

214 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:38:26am

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:

[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

215 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:38:35am

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Do not forget who Israel has as its leadership at this moment. It might not have anything to do with the U.S.

216 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:38:41am

re: #209 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You want to be overrun by old women who want to, ahem, you?

Um no. Bake and cook!

217 El Lizardo mejicano  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:01am

GREAT NEWS FROM ISRAEL

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

The former press advisor for the Shas Party, Itzik Sudry, has taken on a paid position with Opposition Leader Binyamin Netanyahu, leader of the Likud Party. Considered to have the ear of Shas spiritual leader of Rabbi Ovadiah Yosef, Sudry is working to ensure that Shas does not join the government coalition that Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni is trying to form.

If Shas does not join, Livni will likely be faced with the choice of presenting a flimsy and narrow government based on her Kadima Party and Labor, or declare new elections - in which Netanyahu and his Likud party are expected to win.

218 kansas  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:07am

After this election Biden will be doing infomercials selling the Pocket Gaffomatic.

219 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:11am

...

220 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:13am

re: #142 doppelganglander

Agreed.

Vote, Americans, vote!

221 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:15am

re: #186 jill e

That might be one of the possible scenarios Joe was referring to. Suppose the "generated crises" was a preemptive strike by Israel. Joe warned that Obama's response might not be popular or perceived as the correct one. Does that mean Obama would condemn Israel & cut off all support? Is this what Joe was setting us up for?

222 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:18am

re: #207 arethusa

I think they think there's a danger of riots either way. The thought had not occurred to me until yesterday, and it's not a pleasant one.

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

223 Dianna  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:23am

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

Well, are gas stations seeing a rise in 1 to 5 gallon sales? Has there been a drop in the number of glass bottles for recycling? Small things like that show when a riot is actually brewing.

224 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:28am

Dang. And it was SOOOOooo profound too.

225 lostlakehiker  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:29am

re: #11 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.

It would bother me. Iran isn't a shithole of a country. It's onetime Olympic gold medalist of civilization, and a nation whose dissidents [e.g. Marjani Satrapi] have given us some fine literature. Ahmadinejads come and go. If there is any way at all to spare a nation, war, if war comes, must be conducted without "final solutions".

226 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:34am

IBD/TIPP is also closing, +3.7 now for Obama.

I read last week somewhere that Joe Biden predicted a drop in the polls for Obama this week. Hey, Joe, when did you get so smart?

227 VioletTiger  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:39:42am

re: #91 littleoldlady

In the next 13 days? They're still trying to figure out what the pigeons know!

Is PETA protesting the poor treatment of the prisoners?

228 DeeMack  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:07am

Found this today (posted it on another thread but thought it might get lost there). If all of this is true, why isn't it on the news? oh, wait...

[Link: www.nakedemperornews.com...]

229 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:16am

re: #206 tfc3rid

We did it in Iraq and they moved their WMD because we dragged ass...

Yep, but it looks like they didn't move it all:

Yellowcake in Iraq

I've seen this reported in a number of publications, so I assume it's correct. But, how come nobody made a bigger deal about it?

Hmm.

230 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:17am

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Coward! ;-)

231 Opinionated  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:22am

re: #186 jill e

Some key decision makers in Israel fear that unless they attack Iranian nuclear enrichment facilities in the next few months, while George W Bush is still president, there will not be another period when they can rely on the United States as being anywhere near as supportive in the aftermath of a unilateral attack.

Israel is in a very difficult spot.

With the precarious world economic situation, any event that today causes worldwide financial panic- as an attack on Iran and the oil consequences- could, IMO, actually result in mass riots against Jews worldwide.

232 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:28am

re: #214 Outrider

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

Carville was pulling that crap two weeks ago. Sounded like a threat.

233 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:39am

re: #210 Mr. Sandman

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Shaddap!

234 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:40am

re: #214 Outrider

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

*DING!

235 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:40:59am

re: #215 WrathofG-d

Yeah, Israeli leadership has lost their stones. I hope they have the courage to act before it's too late.

236 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:04am

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

And as always, it'll be the deluded footsoldiers of the B0 campaign who'll get thrown to the wolves, because those who instigated this, from B0 down, will be sitting safe and secure in their nice mansions, drowning their sorrows behind closed gates ... and afterwards they'll say that they never meant this to happen, and their words were taken out of context ...

237 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:09am

re: #163 _RememberTonyC

Bush wouldn't fire Rumsfeld before 2006 because he did not want to politicize that decision. There is no way in hell he will allow Iran to be attacked before Nov. 4.....unless Iran strikes first.

238 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:21am

re: #161 sparrowlake

Inshallah, muthafuckahs.

I am so stealing that!

240 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:35am

re: #221 Kenneth

That might be one of the possible scenarios Joe was referring to. Suppose the "generated crises" was a preemptive strike by Israel. Joe warned that Obama's response might not be popular or perceived as the correct one. Does that mean Obama would condemn Israel & cut off all support? Is this what Joe was setting us up for?

That was what I had brought up initially... Would not shock me...

241 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:40am

Chia Pet clip on Rush

we can not we can not we can not forgo one single solitary vote

Why does he insist on repeating every stupid thing he says? Drama queen.

242 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:41am

That smell is back again.

243 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:48am

re: #48 tfc3rid

If they are driving up they are doing one lousy job of it. Oil is off 7% today at 67.10 (delayed quote 1 hour stale) and gasoline is down to 1.57 off 7.2% Oh and for you goldbugs (aka members of the Paulian race that did not evolve), Gold is off 5.4% at 726.40

244 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:48am

listening to Obama on Limbaugh.


uh uh uh

245 jamgarr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:51am

Disproportionate

/I always said that 10 to 1 is a good proportion

246 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:41:57am

re: #221 Kenneth

That might be one of the possible scenarios Joe was referring to. Suppose the "generated crises" was a preemptive strike by Israel. Joe warned that Obama's response might not be popular or perceived as the correct one. Does that mean Obama would condemn Israel & cut off all support? Is this what Joe was setting us up for?

That was my first thought when I read what he said.

247 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:42:03am

re: #222 Ford_Prefect

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

That was not the OJ verdict, it was the Rodney King verdict.

248 El Lizardo mejicano  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:42:22am

re: #222 Ford_Prefect

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

Considering how the moonbats have beeb behaving, you can expect ANYTHING.

249 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:04am

re: #238 Josephine

I am so stealing that!

I think I saw a t-shirt for sale that read "Six Days, Bitch" in Hebrew.

250 DeeMack  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:11am

re: #193 El Lizardo mejicano

Nationwide, Police Begin Bracing For Obama's Defeat
The Hill notes that police departments across the country are preparing for post-election violence:

[Link: confederateyankee.mu.nu...]

Police departments in cities across the country are beefing up their ranks for Election Day, preparing for possible civil unrest and riots after the historic presidential contest.
Public safety officials said in interviews with The Hill that the election, which will end with either the nation’s first black president or its first female vice president, demanded a stronger police presence.

Some worry that if Barack Obama loses and there is suspicion of foul play in the election, violence could ensue in cities with large black populations. Others based the need for enhanced patrols on past riots in urban areas


I can vouch for that...it's been going on for months. Natl' Guard too. Major preparations going on. Isn't it obvious though? Either way...it's gonna be ugly.

My advice: Stay home away from windows, keep a fire extinguisher nearby and lock and load! cheers :-)

251 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:15am

I predict that Tehran will be aglow within two weeks.

252 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:29am

re: #161 sparrowlake

Inshallah, muthamullahfuckahs.

Couldn't resist.

253 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:33am

re: #235 Killgore Trout

We can only hope. But some people say otherwise.

254 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:44am

re: #251 jorline

I predict that Tehran will be aglow within two weeks.

Oh no.
Michelle will have to switch to Russian Caviar

255 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:50am

re: #214 Outrider

Nothing like the media putting out this stuff so as to make people afraid to vote for McCain eh?

You know, either way, win or lose, there's going to be some civil unrest. Of course, the LA riots of 1992 might be dwarfed by what might happen in the event of an Obama loss.

Of course, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will be happy that they can justify their continued existence in the event of an Obama loss. Otherwise, they become politically irrelevant.

256 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:52am

Is there anyone less convincing than Joe Biden when trying to sound tough and authoritative?

257 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:55am

re: #222 Ford_Prefect

That's true. Remember LA after the OJ verdict. That happened after a 'win'.

You're thinking of Chicago after a Bulls Championship.

258 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:43:58am

re: #211 midwestgak

Thank you. All I can say is that when American Jews come out of their fog of cognitive dissonance and renounce their support of the radical left dem party, I'll feel a lot better. Not holding my breath.

259 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:18am

re: #256 bosforus

Is there anyone less convincing than Joe Biden when trying to sound tough and authoritative?

Obama

260 haakondahl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:35am

LGF not blocked from Kabul.

261 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:42am

re: #226 arethusa

IBD/TIPP is also closing, +3.7 now for Obama.

I read last week somewhere that Joe Biden predicted a drop in the polls for Obama this week. Hey, Joe, when did you get so smart?

It's the mushrooms he's been eating. Bought them at his last visit to Home Depot,

262 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:49am

re: #227 VioletTiger

Is PETA protesting the poor treatment of the prisoners?

Hey PETA! I heard that after Iran tortures those pigeons for information they're planning to make purses out of them.

/lots of people read LGF. I'm hoping to make someone else's hair fall out for a change... ;-)

263 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:52am

re: #257 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're thinking of Chicago after a Bulls Championship.

It'll be like lots of cities won the championship at the same time.

264 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:53am

re: #254 Shug

Oh no.
Michelle will have to switch to Russian Caviar

lol

265 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:44:55am

re: #247 tfc3rid

That was not the OJ verdict, it was the Rodney King verdict.

Right. Knew that. :-)

266 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:02am

re: #256 bosforus

Is there anyone less convincing than Joe Biden when trying to sound tough and authoritative?

Madeline Half-bright?

267 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:20am

re: #223 Dianna

Warped, but so true.

268 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:27am

re: #207 arethusa

Election by extortion? I live far enough out in the burbs that it probably would not effect me much if it happened, but if they did, they would set themselves back many years. It would give every white racist in the world a big "I told you so." and would destroy the areas in which they occurred economically for years to come. But stupid is as stupid does. Le Bon wrote about it in the later 1800s.

269 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:28am

IT CAN BE ZOMBIE TIEM NOW PLZ?

270 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:30am

re: #259 loppyd

Obama

Maybe, but at least Obama doesn't sound like he doubts his own words when he says them.

271 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:35am

re: #256 bosforus

Is there anyone less convincing than Joe Biden when trying to sound tough and authoritative?

Barney Frank
Barney Fife
Barney the Dinosaur

and it that order.

272 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:45:37am

We've all thought Obama's associations with Ayers and Dohrn, Rezko, Khalidi, Wright, Pfleger, Farrhakan, et al pointed to his lack of good judgment.

But his choice of Joe Biden as his running mate just takes the cake! Joe's a threat to Israel's national security, and to our very own as well.

I hope Joe's statements are the direct cause of Obama's defeat, because yikes! Can you imagine the damage "VP Joe Biden" would do to this country?

273 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:46:23am

re: #241 loppyd

Chia Pet clip on Rush

we can not we can not we can not forgo one single solitary vote

Why does he insist on repeating every stupid thing he says? Drama queen.

He has so little to say, he repeats it to fill time.

274 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:46:30am

re: #261 calcajun

It's the mushrooms he's been eating. Bought them at his last visit to Home Depot,

There was a great old cartoon (paraphrasing here):

Grocery stand with two boxes of mushrooms next to each other. Signs read:

Mushrooms - $4.50/lb.

Mushrooms? - $.39/lb.

275 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:46:40am

pre-emptive = from the river to the sea.

276 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:46:43am

re: #269 Who Watches the Watchmen?

IT CAN BE ZOMBIE TIEM NOW PLZ?

I hope it's good. What's it about?

277 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:11am

Joy Behar is a disgrace

278 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:19am

What I got out of Biden's comment (beyond the fact that he was making excuses for mistakes before they happened) was an acknowledgment that the tactics the Democrat party, with the help of the MSM, used against Bush of hollowing out any decision he made, and opposing any choice he made, were successful in disturbing and destroying the Presidents ability to get anything done.

279 TalkinKamel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:23am

I'm not really surprised. I thought Biden's threatened crisis would probably involve Israel/Iran. (I wouldnt' be surprised if Russia's involved, too).

280 formercorpsman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:42am

re: #120 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Beer, did you get his email?

281 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:42am

re: #273 doppelganglander

He has so little to say, he repeats it to fill time.

Maybe his brain is squeezed too tight from all the face lifts and botox.

282 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:47:46am

Man, they were hammering McCain about being a doddering old fool, and here we have Biden. Two cerebral aneurysms can affect one's mental status. Just sayin'.

283 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:48:00am

Hey zombie....come out, come out here ever you are.

284 TalkinKamel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:48:04am

re: #272 Intrepid

I'd rather have Sarah Palin as the one who's a heartbeat away from the presidency.

285 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:48:47am

re: #277 Shug

Joy Behar is a disgrace

What, did you watch O'Reilly on there today? He asked viewers last night to pray for him, since he was to guest there.

286 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:49:16am

re: #277 Shug

Joy Behar is a disgrace

I just heard the same thing. She's a pig.

Elizabeth Hasselback should quit that toxic stitch and bitch.

Fox would love to have her.

287 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:49:35am

re: #282 vagabond trader

Man, they were hammering McCain about being a doddering old fool, and here we have Biden. Two cerebral aneurysms can affect one's mental status. Just sayin'.


And he's what...7 years younger than McCain?

288 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:49:54am

re: #241 loppyd

Chia Pet clip on Rush

we can not we can not we can not forgo one single solitary vote

Why does he insist on repeating every stupid thing he says? Drama queen.


That is code speak for 'Vote Often as you can'

289 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:49:54am

re: #287 redstateredneck

And he's what...7 years younger than McCain?

Yeah, he's 65.

290 Shug  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:03am

re: #285 Ward Cleaver


I just heard her big yapper on Limbaugh.

was O'reilly on the view today?
I don't watch the view

291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:12am

re: #280 formercorpsman

Beer, did you get his email?

No, but I read his things on 1210's website.

292 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:21am

re: #278 WrathofG-d

What I got out of Biden's comment (beyond the fact that he was making excuses for mistakes before they happened) was an acknowledgment that the tactics the Democrat party, with the help of the MSM, used against Bush of hollowing out any decision he made, and opposing any choice he made, were successful in disturbing and destroying the Presidents ability to get anything done.

Yes, folks. It promises to be a thrilling Apocalypse! The famous Four Horsemen are being led down the track to the starting gate while we wait for the start...

293 Cato  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:29am

Question: How would Iran attack Israel's military? What could they possibly have to attack with successfully?

294 Killgore Trout  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:36am

re: #260 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kabul.

Are you there? Wow!

295 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:39am

re: #249 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think I saw a t-shirt for sale that read "Six Days, Bitch" in Hebrew.

I'd be charged with a hate crime if I wore that in Canada.

...I mean, if I wore that outdoors in Toronto and survived.

296 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:40am

re: #205 WrathofG-d

I would accuse Condi of being a wide-eyed Pollyanna, but I'm beginning to suspect Obama's policy is just a rope-a-dope to tie up Israel.

297 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:49am

re: #290 Shug

I just heard her big yapper on Limbaugh.

was O'reilly on the view today?
I don't watch the view

He announced last night at the end of his show that he was going to be on there today.

298 Karagush  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:49am

re: #148 MandyManners

Maybe because PD's around the country are seeing the thefts and vandalism of signs, are seeing the assaults on McCain/Palin. They know what BHO said about getting in our faces.

Maybe they have spies in BHO's campaigns. Maybe the gang units are picking up chatter.

Law enforcement and the military has been discussing the likelihood of Violence widespread, and serious for literally MONTHS.
Friend who is a marine MP made me formulate a just in case plan, and my sweetie made sure i had supplies just in case there was disruption bad enough over a few days to cause problems with areas outlying the cities.

before he deployed he told me he was sorry he couldn't make sure I'd be perfectly safe. Then he told me to take care of myself, do what i had to with no regret, and know he would go anywhere and do anything to find me and help me once he got back. Thats spooky since he is in a position to know things people walking around generally dint.

299 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:50:51am

re: #255 calcajun

You know, either way, win or lose, there's going to be some civil unrest. Of course, the LA riots of 1992 might be dwarfed by what might happen in the event of an Obama loss.

Of course, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton will be happy that they can justify their continued existence in the event of an Obama loss. Otherwise, they become politically irrelevant.

If anyone is stirring up potential riots, it's Obama's own camp. They've been spreading the idea that the only way Obama could lose is because of racism. It's calculated to make excuses for his loss, pin the blame on white people, and piss off his own supporters, particularly blacks. It serves the dual purpose of intimidating whites into voting for him out of fear of riots, and giving his supporters an excuse for rioting when he loses. It's going to be Rodney King, plus 1968, times 100.

300 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:10am

re: #286 loppyd

I just heard the same thing. She's a pig.

Elizabeth Hasselback should quit that toxic stitch and bitch.

Fox would love to have her.

The crowd at The View is like the fans at a rap concert. When someone on stage yells something stupid everyone else just applauds and sings along. Half-witted brainless followers.

301 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:12am

re: #286 loppyd

I just heard the same thing. She's a pig.

Elizabeth Hasselback should quit that toxic stitch and bitch.

Fox would love to have her.

I don't know how she can stand the work atmosphere with those witches. I hope she's makin' a lot of moolah, but I doubt she is.

302 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:15am

re: #281 loppyd

Maybe his brain is squeezed too tight from all the face lifts and botox.

The hair plugs can become ingrown, too.

303 sngnsgt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:23am

re: #286 loppyd

LOL! Can you imagine how foul-mouthed the "ladies" of the view would become if she did?

304 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:26am

re: #256 bosforus

Yeah, it's like hearing an accountant threaten a gangster. HIGHLY unconvincing.

305 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:27am

re: #293 Cato

Question: How would Iran attack Israel's military? What could they possibly have to attack with successfully?

A Trojan Camel.
/

306 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:34am

re: #260 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kabul.

Is that where you are now?

307 susanl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:39am

Well, I sure hope they try.

Don't take me wrong, I do not want to see Israel attacked, but I also do not think that the Iranians could succeed in an attack, I just want them to try.

PLEASE dinnerjacket, be stupid!

McCain would win in a landslide, we would take back the house, and have a shot at the senate.

Especially when Obama tells the Israelies to "show restraint", like he did the Georgians.

308 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:41am

re: #268 Shr_Nfr

True !
And it worked real well for Obama's Cousin Odinga!
Kill and rape till I get my power!

309 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:42am

re: #276 Ward Cleaver

I hope it's good. What's it about?

Nothing there that's new. Checked a couple of minutes ago.

310 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:51:45am

re: #300 bosforus

The crowd at The View is like the fans at a rap concert. When someone on stage yells something stupid everyone else just applauds and sings along. Half-witted brainless followers.

So, like Oprah's audience?

311 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:01am

re: #282 vagabond trader

Man, they were hammering McCain about being a doddering old fool, and here we have Biden. Two cerebral aneurysms can affect one's mental status. Just sayin'.

Cripes. If he blows a cerebral artery, who might BHO pick to replace him?

312 x-wing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:19am

re: #278 WrathofG-d

Ding Ding Ding.

Same thing came to my mind.

313 Iron Fist  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:23am

re: #207 arethusa

I've thought about riots ever since Obama won the nomination. The L³eft has been getting more and more unhinged over the past decade or so (remember the anti-Globalization riots when Clinton was President?). There have been isolated acts of violence as things stand now. If Obama loses, you can count on the Democrats screaming "Stolen election!" no matter how solid a McCain victory is.

That can't help but instigate violence from the Left. The question is "what are we going to do about it"? Personally, I think violence should be answered with violence. If they riot, put them down hard. Unfortunately, I don't think the ROE that the cops (and National Guard) will have will be sufficient. You can't hurt the guy throwing Molotov Cocktails self-esteem by pegging his ass and cuffing him (if he survives). That'll mean that the riots will be longer (and more widespread) than they otherwise would be.

I'm very nervous about this election.

314 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:24am

re: #293 Cato

They already have with their surrogates in Lebanon.

315 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:27am

re: #311 calcajun

Cripes. If he blows a cerebral artery, who might BHO pick to replace him?

Ayers?

316 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:28am

re: #310 Ward Cleaver

So, like Oprah's audience?

Exactly.

317 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:36am

re: #284 TalkinKamel

I'd rather have Sarah Palin as the one who's a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Roger that, TK.

318 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:40am

re: #277 Shug

Joy Behar is a disgrace

She used to be funny, but somebody convinced her that she was relevant too, and the funny went away.

319 Islamophobic Warmongering Infidel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:40am

It's about time. We know that Israel will not lose so let the games begin.....uncomfortable as they may be.

320 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:52am

Just heard on Rush Rasmussen has McCain up 49 to 47 in OHIO!

321 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:52:59am
Safavi is head of the Research Institute of Strategic Studies in Tehran, and an adviser to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. The institute is directly affiliated with Khamenei's office and with the Revolutionary Guards, and advises both on foreign policy issues.

Safavi is also the brother of Yahya Rahim Safavi, who was the head of the Revolutionary Guards until a year ago and now is an adviser to Khamenei, and holds significant influence on security matters in the Iranian government.

I would say this threat is about as close to the horses mouth as you're going to find.

322 Pyroskank  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:04am

A "Pre-Emptive Strike" because it pre-empts Israel's planned strike to pre-empt Iran's unprovoked attack. The enemy's redefinition of language and the media's collusion continues to astound.

323 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:08am

re: #311 calcajun

Cripes. If he blows a cerebral artery, who might BHO pick to replace him?

Thanks for explaining the Colin Powell thing.

324 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:11am

I just heard on Rush that McCain's ahead in Florida and Ohio, according to Rassmusen.

325 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:20am

re: #239 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The data itself is interesting, but David Owen strikes me as a member of the axis of weasels.

He's an old has-been, used to be Foreign Secretary under Jim Callaghan, the last Labour government before Maggie took over. He gets wheeled out now and then when papers need to fill a gap on their pages.

326 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:24am

re: #66 Dirk Diggler

The Iranians only precondition is nuclear fission.

Is that when you go fishing with a nuke, as opposed to dynamite?

327 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:32am

Woot! New Rasmussen poll show McCain 49 to 47 in Ohio.

328 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:37am

re: #299 doppelganglander

If anyone is stirring up potential riots, it's Obama's own camp. They've been spreading the idea that the only way Obama could lose is because of racism. It's calculated to make excuses for his loss, pin the blame on white people, and piss off his own supporters, particularly blacks. It serves the dual purpose of intimidating whites into voting for him out of fear of riots, and giving his supporters an excuse for rioting when he loses. It's going to be Rodney King, plus 1968, times 100.

And if they do, then it will be a cold day in hell before either party ever again nominates an African American for POTUS.

329 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:38am

re: #296 Kenneth

I would accuse Condi of being a wide-eyed Pollyanna, but I'm beginning to suspect Obama's policy is just a rope-a-dope to tie up Israel.

meaning?

330 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:48am

re: #310 Ward Cleaver

So, like Oprah's audience?

Or an Obama campaign rally. Take your pick.

331 wolfie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:53:57am

re: #286 loppyd

No. Hasselbeck should stay. Just by being there (and being beautiful, too) she demonstrates that the conservative side is not garbage.

She's a trooper fighting in the belly of the beast. Gutsy.

332 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:08am

I see we are all tuned into Rush.

LOL

333 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:37am

re: #300 bosforus

The crowd at The View is like the fans at a rap concert. When someone on stage yells something stupid everyone else just applauds and sings along. Half-witted brainless followers.

Or a Trinity Church service.

334 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:42am

re: #315 Ward Cleaver

Ayers?

He's not that stupid. I was thinking the junior senator from the Empire State.

335 sparrowlake  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:43am

re: #238 Josephine

I am so stealing that!

It's all yours. Just one request - no more Diehard sequels! LOL.

336 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:46am

re: #330 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Or an Obama campaign rally. Take your pick.

It's the "we came here for you to tell us how to think" crowd.

337 Opinionated  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:50am

Cheer up.

And Obama Presidency may usher in a 21st Century Apocalypse , but he promises everyone will have healthcare.

338 formercorpsman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:53am

re: #291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I really think he is trying to get his own show on MSNBC, and this is his schtick.

He has been on this bend for a bout a year now.

He used to have a pretty clear head, but I think he has begun to smoke his own.

339 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:54:57am

re: #331 wolfie

No. Hasselbeck should stay. Just by being there (and being beautiful, too) she demonstrates that the conservative side is not garbage.

She's a trooper fighting in the belly of the beast. Gutsy.

She gives credibility to their nuttiness by being there and calling them friends.

340 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:29am

re: #260 haakondahl

LGF not blocked from Kabul.

Hiya - do keep safe, mun!

341 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:31am

re: #304 joncelli

Yeah, it's like hearing an accountant threaten a gangster. HIGHLY unconvincing.

Oh yeah? OH YEAH? Well, buddy, how'd you like an audit that would make a colonoscopy feel like sitting on a tack? I'm gonna pull mistakes outta your taxes so far back you'll be paying in animal pelts and shiny pebbles. I'm gonna arrange to have you hog-tied, hung-up, and liberally fined. You are the IRS' newest pony, baby, get ready for a RIDE.

/

342 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:32am

re: #333 redstateredneck

Or a Trinity Church service.

A million updings upon you!

343 sngnsgt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:33am

re: #332 loppyd

Yup, LOL!

344 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:34am

re: #337 Opinionated

Cheer up.

And Obama Presidency may usher in a 21st Century Apocalypse , but he promises everyone will have healthcare.

Too funny...ding

345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:40am

re: #299 doppelganglander

If anyone is stirring up potential riots, it's Obama's own camp. They've been spreading the idea that the only way Obama could lose is because of racism. It's calculated to make excuses for his loss, pin the blame on white people, and piss off his own supporters, particularly blacks. It serves the dual purpose of intimidating whites into voting for him out of fear of riots, and giving his supporters an excuse for rioting when he loses. It's going to be Rodney King, plus 1968, times 100.

If riots do break out, remember the real reasons;

April 26th, 1992,
there was a riot on the streets,
tell me where were you?
You were sittin' home watchin' your TV,
while I was paticipatin' in some anarchy.

First spot we hit it was my liqour store.
I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford.
With red lights flashin' time to retire,
And then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire.

Next stop we hit it was the music shop,
It only took one brick to make that window drop.
Finally we got our own p.a.
Where do you think I got this guitar that you're hearing today?
Hey!

346 shortshrift  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:55:56am

Why did Biden come out with his prediction of a crisis? Because he - and Obama, McCain and Palin - had just been briefed that Iran will have the bomb in February. What will President Obama do about it? Nothing, because come February the news that Iran has the bomb will be merely to test Obama. Expect him to hold talks with Iran and lift sanctions. See link through Jillian Becker at
theatheistconservative.com.

347 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:56:12am

re: #332 loppyd

Please - it's in to

I got wholloped the other day for a wrong word. Tag, you're it. ;)

348 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:56:25am

re: #278 WrathofG-d

What I got out of Biden's comment (beyond the fact that he was making excuses for mistakes before they happened) was an acknowledgment that the tactics the Democrat party, with the help of the MSM, used against Bush of hollowing out any decision he made, and opposing any choice he made, were successful in disturbing and destroying the Presidents ability to get anything done.


Clinton, IMO, illegally bombed Bosnia - meaning he bombed w/o congressional authority - because he did not want to sacrific the moonbat left support in a vote.

Now comes Obama, with all his 'war-crimes' and Bushiltlerchaneyhaliburton loons. How could he possible explain a military strike to them coherently without looking like a total hypocrit.

The bed's been made!

349 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:56:33am

re: #337 Opinionated

Cheer up.

And Obama Presidency may usher in a 21st Century Apocalypse , but he promises everyone will have healthcare.

Even care from radiation poisoning?

350 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:56:36am

re: #345 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How . . . Sublime of you

351 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:56:48am

re: #342 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A million updings upon you!

Why, thank you.
;-)

352 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:56:56am

re: #324 Honorary Yooper

VA is crucial. How's he doing there?

353 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:57:09am

re: #341 OldLineTexan

lol

354 wolfie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:57:43am

re: #339 loppyd

You have a point. Especially about calling them friends.

355 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:57:44am

re: #323 unreconstructed rebel

Thanks for explaining the Colin Powell thing.

Two black men (Powell cannot be called "African American" in the sense his family came here in the 20th century from Jamaica--I think) won't work. it will look like that new Samuel Jackson-Bernie Mac movie.

356 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:57:51am

re: #336 bosforus

It's the "we came here for you to tell us how to think" crowd.

Scary shit, huh?

357 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:58:11am

re: #337 Opinionated

Yes, everybody will equally wait a long time to get treated. Socialism!

358 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:58:17am

re: #352 joncelli

VA is crucial. How's he doing there?

Probably not so hot since I did not hear any polling info from there...

359 Fritz_Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:58:28am

re: #13 RightLogic

A preemptive attack how? With the charge of the 3rd Camel Brigade across Iraq and Jordan?

they could smuggle in a dirty bomb or biological weapon. Then there's always hezbullah which could attack anywhere in the world.

360 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:58:35am
Senior Tehran officials are recommending a preemptive strike against Israel to prevent expedite an Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear reactors, ...

Correction needed. Dolts.

361 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:07am

re: #341 OldLineTexan

No! No! Not the audit! ;-)

362 VioletTiger  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:13am

re: #303 sngnsgt

LOL! Can you imagine how foul-mouthed the "ladies" of the view would become if she did?

But then they would be forced to attack each other...which could be fun.

363 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:17am

re: #286 loppyd

I just heard the same thing. She's a pig.

Elizabeth Hasselback should quit that toxic stitch and bitch.

Fox would love to have her.


Hasselbeck is not quick-witted enough for that show.

I propose putting Magyn Kelly on the view. She would rip them apart.....with a smile.

364 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:27am

re: #347 unreconstructed rebel

Please - it's in to

I got wholloped the other day for a wrong word. Tag, you're it. ;)

Forgive me!

It looked funky when I typed it, but I am running on little sleep right now.

365 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:30am

re: #325 yma o hyd

He's an old has-been, used to be Foreign Secretary under Jim Callaghan, the last Labour government before Maggie took over. He gets wheeled out now and then when papers need to fill a gap on their pages.

Thanks. His years as FS indicated pre-Thatcher, but didn't want to bother looking it up. The last para in the article was enough. Looks like he's fairly good at filling gaps, except he probably keeps dribbling out.

366 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:39am

re: #352 joncelli

VA is crucial. How's he doing there?

No idea. Just mentioning what I heard.

367 Rednek  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:45am

re: #349 tfc3rid

Even care from radiation poisoning?

No no no...that would be free radiation treatment. It is a feature, not a bug.

368 jamgarr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 11:59:48am

I'm liking the zombie delay. He/she/it has never been over-the-top on teasin' vs. pleasin'. The longer the delay - the bigger the story.

369 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:03pm

re: #346 shortshrift

If he did make that statement because he was briefed by the Bush administration, then that shows he cannot be trusted to keep his yap shut with confidential national security intel!

I don't trust Joe with our national secrets. He's just too off the cuff talkative, and he has no sense of what is prudent to say and what is not.

370 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:04pm

re: #363 DeafDog

Hasselbeck is not quick-witted enough for that show.

I propose putting Magyn Kelly on the view. She would rip them apart.....with a smile.

ooooh - she would have them quaking in their sensible shoes.

371 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:31pm

re: #321 jorline

I would say this threat is about as close to the horses mouth as you're going to find.

Agree.
But how far does it reflect Iranian reality as opposed to 'dreams of the mullahs'?

372 Meremortal  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:34pm

re: #210 Mr. Sandman

Al-Qaida-linked Web site backs McCain as president:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


+
Ah, the daily Sandman turd-and-run.

373 sngnsgt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:39pm

re: #362 VioletTiger

But then they would be forced to attack each other...which could be fun.

CAT FIGHT!

374 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:45pm

re: #354 wolfie

You have a point. Especially about calling them friends.

"You bitches here" is just too informal.

375 El Lizardo mejicano  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:46pm

re: #278 WrathofG-d

What I got out of Biden's comment (beyond the fact that he was making excuses for mistakes before they happened) was an acknowledgment that the tactics the Democrat party, with the help of the MSM, used against Bush of hollowing out any decision he made, and opposing any choice he made, were successful in disturbing and destroying the Presidents ability to get anything done.

What I got from his comment, is that if obambi is in charge, he will sell out Israel and we will have to support him on that decision.

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

obambi will NOT support Israel if they( the Middle East and Russia as possibilities)make a move.

I hope I am wrong.

376 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:00:53pm

I just read through the comments on the KC Star story - "Socialist is code for black". I have no doubt some lizards left their opinions on their site, but damn, 900-1. I only saw one moron defending the guys miserable piece.

377 bosforus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:06pm

re: #356 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Scary shit, huh?

Thinking is hard, why should they be inconvenienced by doing it for themselves?

378 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:08pm

re: #368 jamgarr

I'm liking the zombie delay. He/she/it has never been over-the-top on teasin' vs. pleasin'. The longer the delay - the bigger the story.

Wouldn't it be wild if zombie brought down Obama?

379 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:36pm

re: #363 DeafDog

I'd pay to see Ann Coulter on the view!
She can bring 'em to they're knees and never lay a hand on 'em!

380 MJBrutus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:45pm

re: #111 sngnsgt

Who didn't see this coming? It has been clear since well before the primaries were over that an Obambi loss would have us witness NY, Philly, DC, Atlanta, Denver, Houston and of course Chi-Town in flames, to name several.

381 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:01:48pm
382 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:01pm

re: #378 redstateredneck

Wouldn't it be wild if zombie brought down Obama?

It would be ironic especially since most of his supporters are zombies...

383 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:07pm

re: #366 Honorary Yooper

No idea. Just mentioning what I heard.

Latest poll (Mason-Dixon) had Obama up 2.

384 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:12pm

re: #367 Rednek

No no no...that would be free radiation treatment. It is a feature, not a bug.

Pre-emptive cancer treatment.

It's like the Bush doctrine for your internal organs.

385 ladycatnip  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:39pm

Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff just issued a statement covering Biden's behind saying no matter which administration gets in, they will be tested.

What's up with these people Bush appointed? You'd think they want an Obama win. Unbelievable.

386 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:53pm

re: #376 CommonCents

I just read through the comments on the KC Star story - "Socialist is code for black". I have no doubt some lizards left their opinions on their site, but damn, 900-1. I only saw one moron defending the guys miserable piece.

Most likely Mr. Sandman or JustMyView.

387 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:02:55pm

re: #380 MJBrutus

Not here in NY... Ray Kelly would have the NYPD ready in anti-terror mode...

388 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:00pm

re: #371 yma o hyd

Agree.
But how far does it reflect Iranian reality as opposed to 'dreams of the mullahs'?

OMG.

Dreams of My Mullahs

LOL

389 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:28pm

re: #379 reloadingisnotahobby

I'd pay to see Ann Coulter on the view!
She can bring 'em to they're knees and never lay a hand on 'em!


You beat me to it!

390 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:33pm

I wish somebody would tell my why it's okay for Obama to drop the g's from his words but Palin is some kind of ignorant hick when she does it.

391 J.S.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:33pm

re: #375 El Lizardo mejicano

That was also my take on the Biden comments (after all, it's the "Obama bin Biden" ticket).

392 poopeedoo  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:43pm

Great headlines, Charles!

393 jamgarr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:46pm

Wouldn't it be wild if zombie brought down Obama?

And, if he could make it throb so much the better.

394 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:47pm

re: #389 gonecamping

GMTA !

395 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:57pm

re: #381 WrathofG-d

OT:

What do you think of this caption? Bias? Mistake?

I think it's right.

396 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:03:58pm

re: #176 Josephine

it is so infuriating, the way the msm and the left coddle this terrible candidate.
he does what ever the hell he wants, and they just smile like adoring blind parents, fawning over a demon seed child.

397 Rednek  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:02pm

re: #381 WrathofG-d

OT:

What do you think of this caption? Bias? Mistake?

Hook'em horns? Almost?

398 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:06pm

re: #379 reloadingisnotahobby

I'd pay to see Ann Coulter on the view!
She can bring 'em to they're knees and never lay a hand on 'em!

I'd say we need someone like the late Jeanne Kirkpatrick. Like her or no, she was what might be called a "paper cut." Got her point across, moved on, and it's only a few minutes later that you realized you're bleeding - and in pain.

399 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:06pm

re: #363 DeafDog

Hasselbeck is not quick-witted enough for that show.

I propose putting Magyn Kelly on the view. She would rip them apart.....with a smile.

With occasional guest appearances by Ann Coulter.

400 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:18pm

re: #348 DeafDog

Clinton, IMO, illegally bombed Bosnia - meaning he bombed w/o congressional authority - because he did not want to sacrific the moonbat left support in a vote.

Now comes Obama, with all his 'war-crimes' and Bushiltlerchaneyhaliburton loons. How could he possible explain a military strike to them coherently without looking like a total hypocrit.

The bed's been made!

And if he -God firbid! - actually gets to lie in it, then all I'll say is 'serves you right, you flaming idiot!

401 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:51pm

re: #399 Moe Katz

With occasional guest appearances by Ann Coulter.

And Michelle Malkin.....and Laura Ingraham. LOL

402 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:56pm

From November 5th to January 19th, GWB has got no one to answer to and no election to influence. Iran has not thought this through very well. If GWB decides that, in the case of an Obama win, it's now or never on making the Middle East a much safer place, anything can happen.

403 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:04:59pm

What ever became of that Iranian freighter with the mysterious cargo?

404 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:10pm

re: #381 WrathofG-d

OT:

What do you think of this caption? Bias? Mistake?

Huh? That's not the sign for I love you in ASL?

405 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:15pm

re: #382 tfc3rid

It would be ironic especially since most of his supporters are zombies...


Headline: Baron Obama Samedi vanquished by a zombie he could not control.

406 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:17pm

re: #379 reloadingisnotahobby

True, but Coulter's shtick includes "in your face" name calling. It's a frontal assault.

Magyn (my soon to be betrothed) out flanks her opponents till the opponent looks silly. They don't even see it coming. She just dances intellectual circles around fools.

407 wolfie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:20pm

re: #352 joncelli

VA is crucial. How's he doing there?

What I hear is that internal polling has it close to statistically even. The problem is northern VA, with its well-established ACORN fraud and illegal immigrants. There are rumors of the Islamic community importing people from California and even abroad.

We need a strong turn-out in the rural areas........(which is why Mr Wolf and I are working on GOTV in SW Virginia. Gotta get all those people in the hollers up and down to the polls!)

408 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:31pm

re: #390 redstateredneck

Because silly, the Gov did not go to Harvard, which we all know is code for superior intelligence.

409 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:36pm

re: #395 unreconstructed rebel

Willow holding HER SON Trig?

There was a rumor around the Democrat Blogs, and such, that Trig was Willow's kid, was there not? (I believe it was Willow, if not another of Gov. Palin's daughters).

This caption (IMHO) is easiest read to state that Willow is holding HER son Trig, not Gov. Palin's son Trig.

Unless you are trying to say that you believe that Trig is Willow's son.

410 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:46pm

re: #385 ladycatnip


What's up with these people Bush appointed? You'd think they want an Obama win. Unbelievable.

Bush doesn't like McCain.

411 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:49pm

re: #403 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What ever became of that Iranian freighter with the mysterious cargo?

Our Navy is waiting for "rules of engagement", last I heard.

Unbelievable.

412 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:05:54pm

re: #399 Moe Katz

With occasional guest appearances by Ann Coulter.

On second thought I withdraw the nomination of Ann Coulter. There's also a female group bonding thing on that show that Elisabeth does reasonably well, but which Coulter would be incapable of, so she would be socially isolated even before any issue was raised.

413 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:06:16pm

re: #401 loppyd

And Michelle Malkin.....and Laura Ingraham. LOL

Kelly, Malkin, Ingraham...now that is a 'View' that I could watch!

414 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:06:30pm

re: #399 Moe Katz

I print Anns column every thurs...
Share it with the bored Deputies sitting security.....
They love it!

415 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:06:30pm

re: #385 ladycatnip

Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff just issued a statement covering Biden's behind saying no matter which administration gets in, they will be tested.

What's up with these people Bush appointed? You'd think they want an Obama win. Unbelievable.

Yeah, but just imagine if you are an undecided (yes, there are still many out there) and you are pondering your choice. Sec Chertoff says "no matter who is in the Oval Office, they will be tested".

You look at Obama, and you look at McCain. Which one has already been tested time and time again, and has come out of it stronger than he was before?

John McCain.

Obama's never been tested, so we don't have any idea how he'll do. Well, except with the Iraq troop surge (got that one wrong), oh, and the Russia/Georgia thing (got that one wrong, too).

416 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:06:33pm

re: #245 jamgarr

Disproportionate

/I always said that 10 to 1 is a good proportion

20 to 1 are much better odds

don't forget the Eu.

417 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:06:58pm

re: #407 wolfie

We need a strong turn-out in the rural areas........(which is why Mr Wolf and I are working on GOTV in SW Virginia. Gotta get all those people in the hollers up and down to the polls!)


Good for y'all!

418 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:02pm

re: #409 WrathofG-d

I didn't read it that way. I thought you were talking about the sign which I understand is correct.

419 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:04pm

Does anybody think that the Obama Campaign is not giving Israel signals to stand down & not screw up the deal by an attack on Iran.
THe Israelis can read the polls & I am sure have concluded that alienating the One is a bad idea.
Having said that, I think things will get worse not better for Israel under an Obama presidency. I think Israel should go after Iran post haste & then deal with the fall out.

420 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:06pm

re: #411 OldLineTexan

Our Navy is waiting for "rules of engagement", last I heard.

Unbelievable.

I also read somewhere (can't remember) that Blackwater announced it was ready to help out. And, they got their own ship dont'cha know.

421 Rednek  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:06pm

re: #396 nyc redneck

it is so infuriating, the way the msm and the left coddle this terrible candidate.
he does what ever the hell he wants, and they just smile like adoring blind parents, fawning over a demon seed child.

Four more years of this. At least.

Maybe.

422 amphibian  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:09pm

re: #38 Kenneth

No brain scans in released Biden medical records

...fixed that for ya, Joe!

On the other hand, that would explain a few things. I am not wishing ill health to a US senator, but... I've thought that he sounds drunk half the time. Could it be a neurological problem?

(Good choice, by the way, Husseinovich! If I didn't say this before.)

423 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:24pm

re: #232 redstateredneck

Carville was pulling that crap two weeks ago. Sounded like a threat.

That was how I took it. Could be a question of perception eh? pfffft

424 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:54pm

re: #403 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What ever became of that Iranian freighter with the mysterious cargo?

I think it was left out there as bait. Every boatload of pirates that boarded it never left.

425 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:07:58pm

re: #337 Opinionated

Cheer up.

And Obama Presidency may usher in a 21st Century Apocalypse , but he promises everyone will have healthcare.

Free band-aids for your radiation burns.

426 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:00pm

re: #365 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks. His years as FS indicated pre-Thatcher, but didn't want to bother looking it up. The last para in the article was enough. Looks like he's fairly good at filling gaps, except he probably keeps dribbling out.

He's trying very hard to be a 'wise, older statesman'. A bit like your Jimmah ...

Funny thing is - Maggie's and John Major's Foreign secretaries don't do that sort of thing. Figures..,

427 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:10pm

re: #408 vagabond trader

Because silly, the Gov did not go to Harvard, which we all know is code for superior intelligence.

And Obama does it 'cause he's just speaking his phony shuck & jive ebonics so to criticize him would be racist?

428 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:19pm

re: #406 DeafDog

Sweet!
Heh....Is your dog really deaf?
Bulldogs ,a face only a parent could love! LOl

429 kcladderman  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:27pm

re: #409 WrathofG-d

Willow holding HER SON Trig?

There was a rumor around the Democrat Blogs, and such, that Trig was Willow's kid, was there not? (I believe it was Willow, if not another of Gov. Palin's daughters).

This caption (IMHO) is easiest read to state that Willow is holding HER son Trig, not Gov. Palin's son Trig.

Unless you are trying to say that you believe that Trig is Willow's son.

Thats not how I read it. I think you are seeing ghosts.

430 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:30pm

re: #419 opnion

Does anybody think that the Obama Campaign is not giving Israel
signals to stand down & not screw up the deal by an attack on Iran.
THe Israelis can read the polls & I am sure have concluded that alienating the One is a bad idea.
Having
said that, I think things will get worse not better for Israel under an
Obama presidency. I think Israel should go after Iran post haste &
then so they won't have to deal with the fall out.

That's what the whole thing is about -no fall-out!

431 We need G.C. Scott  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:08:39pm

re: #250 DeeMack

I can vouch for that...it's been going on for months. Natl' Guard too. Major preparations going on. Isn't it obvious though? Either way...it's gonna be ugly.

My advice: Stay home away from windows, keep a fire extinguisher nearby and lock and load! cheers :-)


We in Nawlin's got a little taste of such insurrection from Aug 30 through the first week of Sept. back in 2005 when thugs, noting the thin spreading of law enforcement who were engaged in Katrina related rescues, arrests, or in some cases defections, took it upon themselves to indiscriminatingly shoot up galleries, businesses, homes in the French Quarter and adjacent areas. Let's just say such nonsense was brought to a screeching halt by citizens, and not for the most part by the NOPD or the Blackwater opts contracted by some of the hotels and more affluent neighborhoods.

432 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:09:14pm

re: #409 WrathofG-d

The rumor was first about Bristol, and then (someone said way back on LGF) some people switched it to Willow.

I think there are just too many floating "her"s in that caption.

433 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:09:20pm

re: #277 Shug

Joy Behar is a disgrace

She is a vulgar dumpster diver. Barbara Walters is an idiot & the women in the audience make her look like a savant.

434 Bos2112  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:09:29pm

re: #229 subsailor68

re: #229 subsailor68

Yep, but it looks like they didn't move it all:

Yellowcake in Iraq

I've seen this reported in a number of publications, so I assume it's correct. But, how come nobody made a bigger deal about it?

Hmm.

I dropped this on my Canadian in-laws during Thanksgiving dinner 2 weeks ago. Needless to say they are all Bush/Republican haters. Obviously, since they were one day away from their own elections, politics was the dominant topic. They all know I am a Conservative and when the topic switched to the US elections they come up with the MSM talking points. When they asked the standard question "where are those WMDs again?" (followed by the triumphant laugher of 10 know-it-all Libs). I answered "Funny you should ask that ...they are right here in Canada! I WISH you could have seen there faces and then heard the sound of 10 forks (as well as 10 JAWS) hitting the table at one time.
They had no idea.
It was a glorious scene I tell ya

435 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:09:42pm

re: #424 gonecamping

I think it was left out there as bait. Every boatload of pirates that boarded it never left.

Kind of like a roach motel - Jihadi Pirates check in, they don't check out!

436 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:09:52pm

re: #409 WrathofG-d

Willow holding HER SON Trig?

There was a rumor around the Democrat Blogs, and such, that Trig was Willow's kid, was there not? (I believe it was Willow, if not another of Gov. Palin's daughters).

This caption (IMHO) is easiest read to state that Willow is holding HER son Trig, not Gov. Palin's son Trig.

Unless you are trying to say that you believe that Trig is Willow's son.

Willow's the 6 year old, I think.

437 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:08pm

re: #403 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What ever became of that Iranian freighter with the mysterious cargo?

It was released on the 20th.

The vessel was released by the pirates on October 10, announced the IRISL public relations office, "after seven weeks of negotiations with Somali pirates." All 29 members of the crew were reported safe. Iran criticized world powers for its indifference toward the lack of security in international waters. IRISL, which is run by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, added in its statement that the vessel was sailing towards international waters and it is not clear where the ship has gone since the report.

(The bold highlighting above is a generally-directed "I TOLD YOU SO" on my part.)

438 jamgarr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:26pm

I think Piper is the young one

439 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:31pm

re: #434 Bos2112

re: #229 subsailor68

I dropped this on my Canadian in-laws during Thanksgiving dinner 2 weeks ago. Needless to say they are all Bush/Republican haters. Obviously, since they were one day away from their own elections, politics was the dominant topic. They all know I am a Conservative and when the topic switched to the US elections they come up with the MSM talking points. When they asked the standard question "where are those WMDs again?" (followed by the triumphant laugher of 10 know-it-all Libs). I answered "Funny you should ask that ...they are right here in Canada! I WISH you could have seen there faces and then heard the sound of 10 forks (as well as 10 JAWS) hitting the table at one time.
They had no idea.
It was a glorious scene I tell ya

OMG! Absolutely terrific story! Good on ya. :-)

440 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:40pm

re: #432 arethusa

The rumor was first about Bristol, and then (someone said way back on LGF) some people switched it to Willow.

I think there are just too many floating "her"s in that caption.

I agree. Sloppy writing, but not worth the trouble.

441 alien_mind  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:52pm

brilliant strategery there, announcing a pre-emptive pre-emptive strike publically. a hallmark of great battle plans is that they are reported via a press release.

442 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:53pm

re: #406 DeafDog

True, but Coulter's shtick includes "in your face" name calling. It's a frontal assault.

Magyn (my soon to be betrothed) out flanks her opponents till the opponent looks silly. They don't even see it coming. She just dances intellectual circles around fools.

I agree with you that if Ann went on, the story and conversation would be about her primarily. But I disagree that Megyn Kelly is your fiance! I would have to hate you then.

443 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:10:57pm

re: #381 WrathofG-d

OT:

What do you think of this caption? Bias? Mistake?

Well - I think Willow is an exceedingly pretty young lady!

444 joncelli  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:00pm

re: #407 wolfie

Good on you. My buddies in NoVA will vote McCain but they'll probably be overwhelmed, so we're depending on the bitter clingers!

445 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:02pm

Just some off topic musings. I just checked the mail and got a toy catalog in the mail. (for the granddaughters) Dang thing was only ten odd pages I guess.

I remember when I was a kid and we would get the Sears Christmas Wish Book, the Montgomery Wards Christmas catalog and J.C.Penny toy catalogs. Now those were toy catalogs! Kept us kids amused for weeks!

Now-back to the subject. ;-)>

446 J.S.  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:05pm

re: #385 ladycatnip

Debbie Schlussel has written about Chertoff -- she depicts Chertoff with a snake's head...

447 gop_patriot  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:11pm

re: #381 WrathofG-d

OT:

What do you think of this caption? Bias? Mistake?

Ah,

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, with her daughter Willow holding her son Trig,

It could definitely be seen as bias; on the other hand, the people writing the captions don't seem to be very good at it much of the time.

448 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:19pm

re: #229 subsailor68

Yep, but it looks like they didn't move it all:

Yellowcake in Iraq

I've seen this reported in a number of publications, so I assume it's correct. But, how come nobody made a bigger deal about it?

Hmm.

Duncan Hines yellowcake?

/

449 Florida Lady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:27pm

re: #368 jamgarr

I'm liking the zombie delay. He/she/it has never been over-the-top on teasin' vs. pleasin'. The longer the delay - the bigger the story.

Did she/he/it give us any hints?

450 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:35pm

re: #430 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's what the whole thing is about -no fall-out!

A sagacious comment! I just like that word.

451 wolfie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:38pm

re: #390 redstateredneck

I wish somebody would tell my why it's okay for Obama to drop the g's from his words but Palin is some kind of ignorant hick when she does it.

It's okay for Obama because that is not the way he naturally talks. It is a fake accent designed to make the knuckle-draggers think he is somehow "one of them." It is a clever way to fool the proles.

It is not okay for Palin because it means she actually IS a prole.

The Party of the People!

452 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:11:43pm

re: #436 nikis-knight

Willow's the 6 year old, I think.

Nah, Piper is the 7 year old, Willow is 13/14. Bristol's now 18, I think.

453 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:28pm

re: #448 Ward Cleaver

Duncan Hines yellowcake?

/

Yum, Yum....I loves me Duncan Hines cake.

/

454 jamgarr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:30pm

No hints that I've seen. Just an implication that it is big - coming from zombie, I believe it

455 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:33pm

re: #338 formercorpsman

He used to have a pretty clear head, but I think he has begun to smoke his own.

Rope?

456 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:34pm

re: #445 Outrider

and most of the stuff was made of good old American metal.

457 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:44pm

re: #428 reloadingisnotahobby

No. It's a nickname I got once because I don't take other's advice....even when I should.

458 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:52pm

re: #437 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(The bold highlighting above is a generally-directed "I TOLD YOU SO" on my part.)

I just hope it doesn't turn up off of the Israeli coast.

459 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:12:55pm

re: #398 subsailor68

I'd say we need someone like the late Jeanne Kirkpatrick. Like her or no, she was what might be called a "paper cut." Got her point across, moved on, and it's only a few minutes later that you realized you're bleeding - and in pain.

Yeah - I remember her.
Like John Bolton in a frock ...

460 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:23pm

re: #436 nikis-knight

Willow's the 6 year old, I think.


nah, Piper is the six year old.

461 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:23pm
462 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:24pm

re: #457 DeafDog

Ah! Been there done that!LOL

463 loppyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:33pm

re: #413 Ford_Prefect

Kelly, Malkin, Ingraham...now that is a 'View' that I could watch!

LOL

All beautiful, classy women.

464 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:37pm

re: #459 yma o hyd

Yeah - I remember her.
Like John Bolton in a frock ...

Yep, that was her. Very good comparison!

465 x-wing  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:45pm

re: #436 nikis-knight

Willow's the 6 year old, I think.

No,that's Piper. Willow is the middle girl

466 MJBrutus  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:13:46pm

re: #387 tfc3rid

Not here in NY... Ray Kelly would have the NYPD ready in anti-terror mode...

I would buy a ticket to see a cage match between him and Sharpton :-)

467 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:02pm

Morning all.

This is all bullshit from Iran. They are trying to get Israel to react. Dinnerjacket is on record that he doesnt give a shit if all Iran is toasted, as long as it herald the arrival of his mystical mahdi.

Besides, if you were serious about catching your enemy off guard, you dont go making public announcements about what you are recommending, behind closed doors, to the decision makers.

We have heard all this crap from Iran before, we will hear it again.

468 MrSnuggles  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:10pm

re: #311 calcajun

Bill Ayers?

469 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:11pm

re: #459 yma o hyd

Yeah - I remember her.
Like John Bolton in a frock ...

Perfect comparison!

470 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:14pm
471 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:17pm

re: #372 Meremortal

Now, that's funny. Does he not use Asswipe?

/Depends

472 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:20pm

re: #448 Ward Cleaver

Duncan Hines yellowcake?

/

Easy Iraqi banana bread:

1 box Duncan Hines yellowcake
1 four-serving size instant banana pudding mix
1 cup water
1/4 cup oil
4 large eggs
3-4 overripe bananas, mashed
1/2 cup chopped nuts

Beat eggs lightly. Add yellowcake mix, pudding mix, water, and oil. Mix well. Add mashed bananas and nuts. Bake at 350F for one hour.

473 DaddyG  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:34pm

re: #337 Opinionated

Cheer up.

And Obama Presidency may usher in a 21st Century Apocalypse , but he promises everyone will have healthcare.

Great - the system goes bankrupt purchasing 300 million Potassium Iodide tablets in the first 3 weeks.

474 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:35pm

re: #442 Spenser (with an S)

I agree with you that if Ann went on, the story and conversation would be about her primarily. But I disagree that Megyn Kelly is your fiance! I would have to hate you then.

I can dream

475 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:40pm

re: #426 yma o hyd

He's trying very hard to be a 'wise, older statesman'. A bit like your Jimmah ...

Funny thing is - Maggie's and John Major's Foreign secretaries don't do that sort of thing. Figures..,

OT ... What's Jack Profumo's "reputation" now? (uh, that is, except for the Guardian -- I read the obit they did on him.) I'd read that the day of his passing was a national day of mourning. How's he "holding up"?

476 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:14:57pm

re: #443 yma o hyd

Well - I think Willow is an exceedingly pretty young lady!

Considering the pic, I'm surprised it didn't read:
Palin is giving the American Sign Language (ASL) hand sign for 'I Love You''I worship Stan, the one true God'.
Remember all the hook 'em horns controversy re: Jenna Bush?

477 noshariaincanada  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:15:00pm

Hallowee'en is almost here and there's been no october surprise. If everyone expects one, then it's not a surprise, is it ?

478 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:15:35pm

re: #295 Josephine

I once saw a young man wearing that shirt strolling across the U of T campus. He got some very strong glares, but as the guy was over 6 ft and solidly built, nobody tried anything.

479 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:15:43pm

re: #472 OldLineTexan

Easy Iraqi banana bread:

1 box Duncan Hines yellowcake
1 four-serving size instant banana pudding mix
1 cup water
1/4 cup oil
4 large eggs
3-4 overripe bananas, mashed
1/2 cup chopped nuts

Beat eggs lightly. Add yellowcake mix, pudding mix, water, and oil. Mix well. Add mashed bananas and nuts. Bake at 350F for one hour.

Saved that one, thanks!

480 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:15:43pm

re: #463 loppyd

LOL

All beautiful, classy women.

Maybe we could leave Joy Behar on the show as the lone lib. It would be fun watching them rip her apart everyday.

481 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:16:00pm

re: #456 vagabond trader

and most of the stuff was made of good old American metal.

Ah jeez. Remember the Erector Sets. i used to slash the crap out of my fingers trying to build cities with them. And some kind of burner kit used to trace over patterns on wood blocks with a hot etching tool. Don't know how many times I suffered burns trying to make things. Or holes I burned in the linoleum floor. ;-)> Dangerous as hell upon reflection-but we all survived. lol

482 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:16:03pm

re: #476 redstateredneck

Considering the pic, I'm surprised it didn't read:
Palin is giving the American Sign Language (ASL) hand sign for 'I Love You''I worship Stan, the one true God'.
Remember all the hook 'em horns controversy re: Jenna Bush?

Well, The Sign of the Horns is the only defense against The Evil Eye.

483 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:16:06pm

re: #458 Ward Cleaver

I just hope it doesn't turn up off of the Israeli coast.

That article doesn't say, but I suspect that Egypt won't let it into the Canal now.

/unless they're idiots

484 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:16:39pm

re: #471 Cap'n DOC

Now, that's funny. Does he not use Asswipe?

/Depends

On what? *rimshot

485 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:16:46pm

On the one hand it is probably bluster meant to help drive up oil prices and bolster themselves at home...

On the other hand the drying up of credit may keep speculative buying down some and seems to be dampening oil speculative buying in particular...

For the Iranians to really stop the Israelis they have to significantly damage the IAF which would mean LOTS of fairly long range missiles from both Iran and Lebanon versus the IDF anti-missile defenses. This would be followed by giving the Israelis an open blank checkbook to strike back at both Iran and Hezb'allah... not a smart option if Israeli resolve is stronger then the last time...

But then who knows which it is? Do the Israelis bank on it being bluster or do they feel sufficiently threatened and start a preemptive-preemptive strike instead?

Moronic is an understatement...

486 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:16:50pm

re: #277 Shug
A lunatic disgrace

487 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:04pm

re: #461 arethusa

Roll Call is saying that five Senate offices received bomb threats today. Wonder whose?

Coming upon those private properties that were vandalized last night as well. Great. Some one deciding not to wait for the elections?

488 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:09pm

re: #396 nyc redneck

it is so infuriating, the way the msm and the left coddle this terrible candidate.
he does what ever the hell he wants, and they just smile like adoring blind parents, fawning over a demon seed child.

All children are special but this one is the most special.

489 calcajun  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:22pm

re: #403 Who Watches the Watchmen?

What ever became of that Iranian freighter with the mysterious cargo?

Heading to a Wal-Mart near you.//////

490 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:26pm

re: #479 Ward Cleaver

Saved that one, thanks!

Before you use it, better let me double-check that recipe! I do know it needs to sit 10 minutes before you turn it out of the pan.

/I use a Bundt pan and bake it one piece...mmmmmmm

491 nyc redneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:29pm

re: #421 Rednek

Four more years of this. At least.

Maybe.

no, he's losing ground everyday.
i still have HOPE.

492 Bos2112  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:33pm

re: #467 A Kiwi Infidel

Morning all.

This is all bullshit from Iran. They are trying to get Israel to react. Dinnerjacket is on record that he doesnt give a shit if all Iran is toasted, as long as it herald the arrival of his mystical mahdi.

Besides, if you were serious about catching your enemy off guard, you dont go making public announcements about what you are recommending, behind closed doors, to the decision makers.

We have heard all this crap from Iran before, we will hear it again.

I agree this could be BS . However this could also be one of the crisis JoeBlow was speaking of. Iran, Hamas, Hez attack Israel - Obama does nothing - "saying trust me I am avoiding WW3" . Possible?

493 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:41pm

re: #484 Ford_Prefect

If you're commenting downthread and you can smell it.

494 DaddyG  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:17:50pm

re: #419 opnion

I think Israel should go after Iran post haste & then deal with the fall out fallout.

/fixed it for ya

495 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:00pm

re: #484 Ford_Prefect

On what? *rimshot

Please remember to use Instant Rimshot!

496 nikis-knight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:04pm

re: #452 Intrepid

Nah, Piper is the 7 year old, Willow is 13/14. Bristol's now 18, I think.


Ah, okay. Well, I don't know the ages of my own 4 siblings either, and that's probably the bigger problem. ;)

497 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:08pm
498 kenprice  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:11pm

The days of the Jews "rolling over" are long past. Is Iran is so stupid as to attack Israel, Israel can be expected to retaliate with any and all weapons at their command. This includes some of the 200+ nuclear weapons Israel doesn't have", or at least, has never officially acknowledged.

The Arab countries can be expected to complain bitterly, in public, and do absolutely nothing! The Arabs hate the Iranians even more than they hate the Jews. Israel doesn't want to take over Arab countries, Iran does! And the Iranians know it, whenever they have a lucid moment (which is not too frequently).

The toothless, mindless United Nations will bluster and condemn, and do nothing, as it always does, and Israel will do whatever is required to preserve itself, alone or with allies, if they can find any.

The nice thing is that Iran is only 50% ethnic Persian, and there are many groups that hate being run by the mullahs. The may not like the Jews, but they hate the Persians almost as much, the Israel is far away, and the mullahs are right there.

499 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:12pm

OT: I'm sure someone has posted this, but I missed it if they did: Nasarallah survives poisoning attempt

I call bullshit. Israel does not make the same mistake twice when it tries to kill someone. However, it sounds like Iran and its camel sodomizing buddies are all ratcheting up the rhetoric.

500 jcm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:47pm

Ban the Bunny Suicides!

Mortified at the 19 pages comically dedicated to a bunny's make-believe descent into depression and suicide, Taffey proclaimed the book to be inappropriate for anyone and everyone, but most assuredly keep it away from teenagers.

So Taffey confiscated the book, refusing to return it to the high school library.


So you'll be informed....
Bunny Suicides.

501 Marlin925  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:18:58pm

re: #11 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

If Iran did that, they'd be signing their own death warrant. Their 3rd world shithole of a country would be a parking lot 10 minutes later.

Which wouldn't bother me a bit.


Most Iranians aren't Islamobots. I don't want Iranian children turned to dust.
Dulce Bellum Inexpertis

502 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:19:13pm

re: #484 Ford_Prefect

And if it's on the DeadThread, it prolly glows.

503 wolfie  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:19:21pm

re: #436 nikis-knight

No, no, no.
The 17 yr old (pregnant and engaged) is Bristol.
Willow is 14 or 15, I think.
Piper is 6.

(Men never get these things straight! Sigh.)

504 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:19:26pm

re: #385 ladycatnip

Homeland Security Secretary Chertoff just issued a statement covering Biden's behind saying no matter which administration gets in, they will be tested.

What's up with these people Bush appointed? You'd think they want an Obama win. Unbelievable.

Bush is a *nice guy* who won't punish people for jumping party lines because he's to busy being POTUS and such partisanship would *demean* the office etc... or so it seems...

505 Florida Lady  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:19:55pm

re: #487 Outrider

Coming upon those private properties that were vandalized last night as well. Great. Some one deciding not to wait for the elections?

These were all Minnesota Republicans, weren't they? Coleman, Michelle Bachman . . . Don't know who else.

My 75-year-old dad said back in February that if this thug got near the White House, blood would run in the streets - win or lose. At the time, I told Dad he was exaggerating.

506 arethusa  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:20:03pm

re: #476 redstateredneck

Considering the pic, I'm surprised it didn't read:
Palin is giving the American Sign Language (ASL) hand sign for 'I Love You''I worship Stan, the one true God'.
Remember all the hook 'em horns controversy re: Jenna Bush?

Hook 'em horns is slightly different from "I love you." (The thumb is tucked in.)

That's the pic that caused the controversy in Scandinavia that you mention.

507 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:20:07pm
508 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:20:17pm

re: #434 Bos2112

I was chatting with some Torontonians in a store recently and they didn't know about it, either.

509 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:20:37pm

re: #395 unreconstructed rebel

I think it's right.

it should be
her daughter Willow and son Trig

having the 2nd 'her' leaves it much more ambiguous.

510 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:21:08pm

re: #504 anotherindyfilmguy

Bush is a *nice guy* who won't punish people for jumping party lines because he's to busy being POTUS and such partisanship would *demean* the office etc... or so it seems...

Shut up, Chertoff Jerkoff.

511 DeeMack  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:21:32pm

re: #431 We need G.C. Scott

We in Nawlin's got a little taste of such insurrection from Aug 30 through the first week of Sept. back in 2005 when thugs, noting the thin spreading of law enforcement who were engaged in Katrina related rescues, arrests, or in some cases defections, took it upon themselves to indiscriminatingly shoot up galleries, businesses, homes in the French Quarter and adjacent areas. Let's just say such nonsense was brought to a screeching halt by citizens, and not for the most part by the NOPD or the Blackwater opts contracted by some of the hotels and more affluent neighborhoods.

;-) I hear ya! I had buddies patroling those streets who told me aaawl about the Nawlins' justice goin on there. The left has noooo idea who their harrassin'. "This big dog will fight when you rattle it's cage"

As a funny side note...mom called me today from Miami to tell me that the PO-leese almost had to be called to the local grocery store when an Obamatard with a red "Change" T-shirt started telling all the people in line that they had to vote for "Change". Let's just say the "Cubanos" down there ain't havin' it and a big 'ol ruccus followed!

512 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:21:44pm

re: #489 calcajun

Heading to a Wal-Mart near you.//////

Note to self: do not buy that cheap "play sand" for the kids.

513 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:21:46pm

re: #510 Ward Cleaver

Shut up, Chertoff Jerkoff.

I meant the SecDHS, just to clarify.

514 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:21:49pm

re: #509 Eowyn2

it should be
her daughter Willow and son Trig

having the 2nd 'her' leaves it much more ambiguous.


It does, but it just looks like it was inartful.

515 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:21:50pm

re: #229 subsailor68

Yep, but it looks like they didn't move it all:

Yellowcake in Iraq

I've seen this reported in a number of publications, so I assume it's correct. But, how come nobody made a bigger deal about it?

Hmm.

I traveled from your link to the original story on CNN.com. If you notice the time of the report it was pushed out at 6:10pm. After alot people have left work where they monitor the news on the company's much faster internet connection, and after the 6:00 evening news has already started. That means no local news networks would pick it up sameday, and cable news networks typically don't have real news on after the 6pm slot. That gives them 23 hours and 50 minutes to release hundreds of other stories that would roll over this one.

516 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:22:04pm

re: #507 Ward Cleaver

WTF, Fox?

This is why polls mean nothing. Just look at the variation in results that they get.

517 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:22:22pm

re: #509 Eowyn2

it should be
her daughter Willow and son Trig

having the 2nd 'her' leaves it much more ambiguous.

Yes. We all agree that it was badly written.

518 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:09pm

re: #512 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Note to self: do not buy that cheap "play sand" for the kids.

But Dad, it glows in the dark!

519 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:27pm
520 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:38pm

re: #515 CommonCents

I traveled from your link to the original story on CNN.com. If you notice the time of the report it was pushed out at 6:10pm. After alot people have left work where they monitor the news on the company's much faster internet connection, and after the 6:00 evening news has already started. That means no local news networks would pick it up sameday, and cable news networks typically don't have real news on after the 6pm slot. That gives them 23 hours and 50 minutes to release hundreds of other stories that would roll over this one.

Thanks so much for that! (Didn't follow or research nearly as well as you did). And your analysis seems absolutely a) credible and b) spot on.

Thanks again.

521 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:47pm

re: #515 CommonCents

I traveled from your link to the original story on CNN.com. If you notice the time of the report it was pushed out at 6:10pm. After alot people have left work where they monitor the news on the company's much faster internet connection, and after the 6:00 evening news has already started. That means no local news networks would pick it up sameday, and cable news networks typically don't have real news on after the 6pm slot. That gives them 23 hours and 50 minutes to release hundreds of other stories that would roll over this one.

My question is, why doesn't Bush go on national television and announce this? It would be a pretty big "See I told you so".

522 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:48pm

re: #508 Josephine

I was chatting with some Torontonians in a store recently and they didn't know about it, either.

Not sure what significance can be attached to the existence of some old yellowcake, however. They formerly had a nuclear reactor program, and yellowcake itself is very low-grade material not suitable for bomb making without refinement. AFAIK it does not point to the existence of a WMD program.

523 Eowyn2  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:23:52pm

re: #297 Ward Cleaver

He announced last night at the end of his show that he was going to be on there today.

dear God, do they really think that we are going to watch the view because oreily is on it. Aint gonna happen

524 opnion  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:12pm

re: #510 Ward Cleaver

Shut up, Chertoff Jerkoff.

Wait, Chertoff built that oustanding border fenced that he promised, to control illegal immigration. Well ok, he's still thinking about it.

525 vagabond trader  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:13pm

re: #481 Outrider

lol indeed. Remember Vacuform? You poured plastic goop into molds, heated it up and made rubbery critters with? Too funny! These would create a national panic/recall today and possibly lengthy counseling sessions.

526 Bos2112  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:25pm

re: #508 Josephine

I was chatting with some Torontonians in a store recently and they didn't know about it, either.

Its amazing isnt it? I swear they all looked at each other in ABSOLUTE shock. Even though they dont talk about how they vote (they consider it very private) I am pretty sure I swayed them to vote conservative- hehehe

527 CommonCents  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:30pm

re: #520 subsailor68

Thanks so much for that! (Didn't follow or research nearly as well as you did). And your analysis seems absolutely a) credible and b) spot on.

Thanks again.

Whatever I can do to help a sardine.

528 Dave the.....  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:33pm
These were all Minnesota Republicans, weren't they? Coleman, Michelle Bachman . . . Don't know who else.

Now they are saying Keith X Ellison's house was also hit.

Only metro area congressperson's house not hit was Betty McCallum (Moonbat-St Paul). My joke is that no one knows she's in Congress as she doesn't do anything other then collect her per diem.

529 yma o hyd  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:36pm

re: #475 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OT ... What's Jack Profumo's "reputation" now? (uh, that is, except for the Guardian -- I read the obit they did on him.) I'd read that the day of his passing was a national day of mourning. How's he "holding up"?

Interesting story.
He totally vanished from the political scene and from the public eye, went to the East End of Londond (one of the poorest parts) and worked for charities, doing everything, from cleaning WCs, helping in kitchens ... He did that for years, worked his way up, as it were, and got a CBE from the Queen for his works.
Maggie invited him to her 70th birthday.

He really did atone.

He did not go whining to the media ...

530 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:45pm

re: #523 Eowyn2

dear God, do they really think that we are going to watch the view because oreily is on it. Aint gonna happen

I don't even watch O'Reilly when O'Reilly is on!

531 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:24:55pm

re: #527 CommonCents

Whatever I can do to help a sardine.

;-)

532 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:25:03pm
533 FamHistoryGuy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:25:40pm

re: #15 jcm

And giggles.

534 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:26:30pm

re: #517 unreconstructed rebel

Yes. We all agree that it was badly written.


I recall many years ago being told that when writing a newspaper article (high school writing class) one has to write for the audience and the average reader had an 8th grade reading ability (I think it was 8th grade..perhaps lower). Perhaps the reason for dumbing down the articles was because the newspaper writers were not too bright.

535 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:26:43pm
Five Senate Offices Receive Bomb Threats

I'd sure as heck like to know whose.

536 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:27:16pm

re: #504 anotherindyfilmguy

More to the point, his job is to protect and defend the nation. Making sure that the table is set for the next administration would appear to be a priority - and that's a good thing. Part of the problem with the runup to 9/11 was that the incoming Administration didn't have time to get into running things as quickly because of the whole Florida fiasco. Bush still had Clinton holdovers, and many of those like Gorelick and Clarke were incompetent.

537 Shr_Nfr[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:27:44pm
538 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:27:57pm

re: #274 subsailor68

There was a great old cartoon (paraphrasing here):

Grocery stand with two boxes of mushrooms next to each other. Signs read:

Mushrooms - $4.50/lb.

Mushrooms? - $.39/lb.

Just like - We got two prices for hay. You can get it a lot cheaper after it's been through the horse.

539 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:28:29pm
540 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:29:27pm
One Senate aide who alerted Politico to the bomb threats says all three Senate office buildings -- Dirksen, Hart and Russell -- have received the calls. It's not clear which offices received threats and exactly what the callers said when they called in the bomb threat.

They didn't say anything like "Buy my latest book" or "I always said I wished I'd done more," did they?

541 FamHistoryGuy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:29:52pm

re: #25 nikis-knight

Wonder if this has anything to do with the pirated Iranian ship that is killing the pirates.

542 UberInfidel67  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:29:55pm

OT: Wish me luck fellow lizards. Trying like hell to get tickets to see our girl Sarah tomorrow at the local high school Will take pictures for all you bitter clingers!

543 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:13pm

re: #277 Shug

Joy Behar is a disgrace

Butt ugly, too.

544 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:35pm

re: #522 Moe Katz

Hmmm, well, I'm certainly not an expert on this topic.

545 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:43pm

re: #461 arethusa

Only 5?

546 Dave the.....  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:30:53pm
The Michelle tape saga continues:

I am agnostic till I hear them and have them confirmed by forensic voice analysis, I lean towards the opinion

that do not exist, however from the API site, the following was posted:


They do not exist.

547 Knitwit  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:31:32pm

re: #445 Outrider
Thanks for the memory! My brothers and I pored over those catalogs for hours at a time.

548 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:31:36pm

re: #529 yma o hyd

Interesting story.
He totally vanished from the political scene and from the public eye, went to the East End of Londond (one of the poorest parts) and worked for charities, doing everything, from cleaning WCs, helping in kitchens ... He did that for years, worked his way up, as it were, and got a CBE from the Queen for his works.
Maggie invited him to her 70th birthday.

He really did atone.

He did not go whining to the media ...

Yes, and Thatcher sat him at the Queen's right hand.

I'm old enough to remember Keeler/Profumo, but (as a Yank?) had heard nothing of him until several months after he died. Read a mention of his work at Toynbee Hall. Went out and read more. Wound up vacuuming everything thing I could find.

As an imperfect human being, I am humbled by that man. Wow!

549 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:32:36pm

re: #543 Son of the Black Dog

Butt ugly, too.

Inside and out.

550 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:32:46pm
551 DeafDog  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:33:22pm

re: #507 Ward Cleaver

Depressing

552 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:33:23pm

re: #328 calcajun

And if they do, then it will be a cold day in hell before either party ever again nominates an African American for POTUS.

That is sad but probably true.

553 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:33:26pm

re: #538 Son of the Black Dog

Just like - We got two prices for hay. You can get it a lot cheaper after it's been through the horse.

In my younger days I spent a lot of time with that cheaper hay and a pitchfork.

:-)

554 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:33:33pm

re: #492 Bos2112

I agree this could be BS . However this could also be one of the crisis JoeBlow was speaking of. Iran, Hamas, Hez attack Israel - Obama does nothing - "saying trust me I am avoiding WW3" . Possible?


Hmmm? Could be a move to get both candidates to show their hand on whether they would support Israel militarily. They dont have to of course. But if a pre-emtive strike against Israel happens on Bush's watch it is a moot point. I do think that if Israel strikes first that the whole world, sorry, I mean nations, will condemn it, both Israel and the strike. This is a given as pretty much everyone except the US is against Israel now. That has to be the tactic Iran is trying to push here. Get Israel to strike first, get condemnation going, Bush caught between a rock and a hard place, Obama saying he never would have condoned it, the big O's rating go up, wins POTUS race, all nations come against Israel. It is a biblical scenarion ergo Zecharia 12

555 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:33:58pm

re: #434 Bos2112

I tried that but my in laws all just start screaming hysterically at me to shut up. They're not just ignorant of the facts, they're down right allergic to them.

556 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:34:35pm

re: #525 vagabond trader

lol indeed. Remember Vacuform? You poured plastic goop into molds, heated it up and made rubbery critters with? Too funny! These would create a national panic/recall today and possibly lengthy counseling sessions.

I recall something similar back in the early 60's. A rectangular piece of hard plastic with many holes along the edges is placed on a frame with pins, that sits over a heater. After the plastic heats enough to start sagging, you flip it over to the other side which had a mold which had holes under for the vacuum. I made many little boats and cars with that gizmo. My son has the 'creepy crawly thing which has the liquid goop that is poured into a mold and heated in a little 'pizza oven' warmed with a light bulb. It was given to us by a friend 2 years ago (it was in her closet for 12 years). Looked for some more of the plastic goop last week and naturally it is not to be found.

557 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:34:59pm

"NostraDumbAss"

Bwahahahahahaha!

558 tfc3rid  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:35:00pm

re: #537 Shr_Nfr

Phillip Berg is that Hillary supporter who is suing for Obama to release his birth certificate...

I would take this whole story with a grain of salt...

559 Josephine  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:35:17pm

This is the first LGF thread I've commented on in a while and it's the first since the quoted bits were rendered in a smaller font.

It makes me sit up straight so I'm closer to the computer, LOL.

560 jcm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:35:35pm

Chinese software pirates aren't happy with Microsoft.People have flooded blogs and bulletin boards to complain it violates their right to privacy - with one lawyer even reporting the firm to security officials for "hacking".

Microsoft dominates the Chinese market and even the president, Hu Jintao, has said he uses its products. But with software piracy as a whole said to stand at over 90%, the firm's profits fail to reflect its popularity.

561 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:36:26pm

re: #544 Josephine

Hmmm, well, I'm certainly not an expert on this topic.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

It's nowhere close to being bomb material, so the story is a non-event. During the Iraq invasion I always felt that the WMD business was a pretext but that the real reason was a good one---to change the geopolitics of the region and cause a pro-democratic domino effect. I think that they were partially successful, too.

562 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:37:00pm

re: #556 gonecamping

My son has the 'creepy crawly thing which has the liquid goop that is poured into a mold and heated in a little 'pizza oven' warmed with a light bulb. It was given to us by a friend 2 years ago (it was in her closet for 12 years). Looked for some more of the plastic goop last week and naturally it is not to be found.

When I was a kid it didn't use a light bulb oven. There was an open hot tray that the mold sat in while the Plasti-Goop set. Then you removed the mold from the hot tray and put it in a tray of water.

563 DeeMack  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:37:01pm

re: #557 HugoChavez

"NostraDumbAss"

Bwahahahahahaha!


ROFLMAO! hee heee heeeee. (as Coke Zero spurts out nose)

564 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:38:11pm

re: #556 gonecamping

I recall something similar back in the early 60's. A rectangular piece of hard plastic with many holes along the edges is placed on a frame with pins, that sits over a heater. After the plastic heats enough to start sagging, you flip it over to the other side which had a mold which had holes under for the vacuum. I made many little boats and cars with that gizmo. My son has the 'creepy crawly thing which has the liquid goop that is poured into a mold and heated in a little 'pizza oven' warmed with a light bulb. It was given to us by a friend 2 years ago (it was in her closet for 12 years). Looked for some more of the plastic goop last week and naturally it is not to be found.

Did you try ebay?

565 OldLineTexan  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:38:52pm

re: #557 HugoChavez

"NostraDumbAss"

Bwahahahahahaha!

You can have Joe the Plumber, or Joe the Bummer (or Dumber)

566 Outrider  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:39:02pm

re: #525 vagabond trader

lol indeed. Remember Vacuform? You poured plastic goop into molds, heated it up and made rubbery critters with? Too funny! These would create a national panic/recall today and possibly lengthy counseling sessions.

I remember that! If I recall I had some for soldiers and some for monsters

567 gonecamping  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:39:15pm

re: #564 Creeping Eruption

No, we were at Wally world getting some stuff and I thought I'd look to see if they still sold the machine or had refills.

568 HugoChavez  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:39:32pm

re: #565 OldLineTexan

You can have Joe the Plumber, or Joe the Bummer (or Dumber)

LOL! That's good too.

569 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:40:48pm

re: #561 Moe Katz

Hi Moe! Thanks for the link. I'm a little bit confused by your statement that it's nowhere close to being bomb material...although I believe you're correct.

But, from the link:

"Yellowcake is used in the preparation of fuel for nuclear reactors, where it is processed into purified UO2 for use in fuel rods for PHWR and other systems using unenriched uranium. It may also be enriched, by being converted to uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6), by isotope separation through gaseous diffusion or in a gas centrifuge to produce enriched uranium suitable for use in weapons and reactors."

I guess my only point is that Iraq probably wasn't stockpiling yellowcake for unenriched uranium uses.

Could be wrong though. It's happened before. :-)

570 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:41:59pm

re: #277 Shug

Joy Behar is a disgrace

I see what Joy Behar's problem is now.

571 scottishbuzzsaw  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:43:35pm

re: #570 jorline

I see what Joy Behar's problem is now.

LOL! Ouch!

572 Marlin925  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:43:38pm

re: #451 wolfie

It's okay for Obama because that is not the way he naturally talks. It is a fake accent designed to make the knuckle-draggers think he is somehow "one of them." It is a clever way to fool the proles.

It is not okay for Palin because it means she actually IS a prole.

The Party of the People!

Yeah, and the multikultural party embraces all cultures and celebrates the differences, unless you're rural/redneck. Most of the venom Palin has recieved has to do with the un p.c. activities she engages in, such as hunting. But hey, the 0bamunist has the backing of "American Hunters and Shooters" which sponsors no shooting activities, who's leadership has contributed money to the Brady anti-gun crowd and has less than 100 members. ROTFLMAO!

573 Buck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:44:40pm

re: #346 shortshrift

Expect him to hold talks with Iran and lift sanctions.


Expect him to trade US forces leaving IRAQ for a "promise" from IRAN to not use the bomb.

574 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:45:05pm

re: #570 jorline

I see what Joy Behar's problem is now.

That would explain the red ass.

575 scion9  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:45:46pm

re: #498 kenprice

The nice thing is that Iran is only 50% ethnic Persian, and there are many groups that hate being run by the mullahs. The may not like the Jews, but they hate the Persians almost as much, the Israel is far away, and the mullahs are right there.

The mullahs are largely Egyptian Arabs actually, and are not ethnically Iranian. They came along for the ride with Khomeini, and are still squatting.

576 Silhouette  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:46:24pm

Hasselbeck should not leave the show. She should instead challenge them to even out the panel, openly exposing that they are hypocrites and bullies. We don't need to continue to cede arenas.

This is a small version of why I don't think the sane people in Europe need to "get out now." Why concede another square mile?

577 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:46:55pm

re: #569 subsailor68

Hi Moe! Thanks for the link. I'm a little bit confused by your statement that it's nowhere close to being bomb material...although I believe you're correct.

But, from the link:

"Yellowcake is used in the preparation of fuel for nuclear reactors, where it is processed into purified UO2 for use in fuel rods for PHWR and other systems using unenriched uranium. It may also be enriched, by being converted to uranium hexafluoride gas (UF6), by isotope separation through gaseous diffusion or in a gas centrifuge to produce enriched uranium suitable for use in weapons and reactors."

I guess my only point is that Iraq probably wasn't stockpiling yellowcake for unenriched uranium uses.

Could be wrong though. It's happened before. :-)


They had a nuclear reactor program before Israel bombed it back in '81, and they may have had a nuclear weapons program in the past, but the mere existence of the yellowcake in no way points to a weapons project at or around the time of the Iraq invasion. As I said, I don't think that means the invasion was wrong, just that a pretext was required and this was it.

578 jorline  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:48:07pm

re: #574 redstateredneck

That would explain the red ass.

Bingo

579 midwestgak  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:48:39pm

re: #390 redstateredneck

I wish somebody would tell my why it's okay for Obama to drop the g's from his words but Palin is some kind of ignorant hick when she does it.

He doesn't drop his g's. You're just not hearing correctly. Remember, nothing is his fault.

580 El Lizardo mejicano  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:50:13pm

Human Error Causes Expensive Va. Lottery Mistake
New Game Generated More Than 600 Winning Tickets

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

That sucks!

581 scion9  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:50:30pm

re: #521 Ford_Prefect

My question is, why doesn't Bush go on national television and announce this? It would be a pretty big "See I told you so".

We knew Saddam had the yellowcake. We knew he had it during Gulf Storm. We went in in '03 because of UN violations, one of which was related to increasing his stockpile of weapons, not for what he already had.

Saddam Hussein had the capacity to make nukes, but the violations were in regards to his access and use of sources to increase his stockpile of weaponized materials. So, the fact that we found what we already knew he had a decade prior isn't exactly 'news' to anyone who was in the know in the first place.

It would still be news to most Americans though, that Hussein even had this much.

582 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:50:51pm

re: #577 Moe Katz

They had a nuclear reactor program before Israel bombed it back in '81, and they may have had a nuclear weapons program in the past, but the mere existence of the yellowcake in no way points to a weapons project at or around the time of the Iraq invasion. As I said, I don't think that means the invasion was wrong, just that a pretext was required and this was it.

Gotcha. (Agree with you about the invasion too.)

Thanks.

583 FamHistoryGuy  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:50:57pm

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

The US should give me the 150 million. I would spend it with American companies and keep US citizens employed. Especially at Sturm, Ruger. And the ammo companies. A million dollar production run of .45LC ought to bring the price down to a reasonable level.

584 redstateredneck  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:52:05pm

re: #579 midwestgak

He doesn't drop his g's. You're just not hearing correctly. Remember, nothing is his fault.


Must be my lyin' racist ears.

585 subsailor68  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:55:15pm

Well, off to do a quick check on the financial thread, then to run some errands.

Thanks all, for some good info, good conversation, and have a great evening!

586 aaron  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:56:21pm

Note to Iran: Bring it.

/See you in Damascus.

587 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 12:59:41pm

re: #390 redstateredneck

I wish somebody would tell my why it's okay for Obama to drop the g's from his words but Palin is some kind of ignorant hick when she does it.

It's his south Kansas acent.

588 Kenneth  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:00:07pm

re: #569 subsailor68

This particular stockpile of uranium was accumulated in Iraq before the first Gulf War. It had been placed under a UN seal and was accounted for by inspectors in the 1990's. The worry was that it might be stolen or sold to terrorists so US arranged for the Iraqi gov't to sell it to Canada for needed cash.

As for WMD, the US & allies did find small quantities of chemical & biological weapons and some machinery for the production of WMD. But they did not find the large stock piles or operational production facilities which everybody expected to find.

The US military did encounter over 4000 armed foreign Arab fighters during the initial invasion battles. Many of these fighters were killed or captured and were found carrying their passports all stamped from at the same Iraqi border post on the Syrian border. On the section of the entry form which stated the reason for visiting Iraq, was the same word hand written in: Jihad

589 Bos2112  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:02:06pm

re: #555 Kenneth

I tried that but my in laws all just start screaming hysterically at me to shut up. They're not just ignorant of the facts, they're down right allergic to them.

LOL! Sounds like my Dem friends and family here in the states!

590 doppelganglander  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:05:58pm

re: #537 Shr_Nfr

You really aren't supposed to post phone numbers. No offense, but I notified Charles. I think it would be fine if you reposted without the addresses and phone numbers.

591 twincitiesgirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:14:05pm

Ahmadinejad's (imanutjob) agenda for years has been to hasten the return of the Mahdi or 12th imam. He's just been BIDEN his time for just the right moment to move.

592 insane_kufr  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:17:16pm

Wow, the Iranians are in need of a good prolonged bombing campaign.

593 MartinLeaf  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:17:32pm

Iran wants to preemptively strike Israel, that is good news. Keep in mind folks that in the 80's, Iran was engaged in World War ONE style trench warfare with Iraq. Iran has not progressed much since then. However, if the world lets Iran develop nukes, then Iran can effectively play the kingpen, and dictate its will to a lot of countries.

I believe Iran already has some nukes because Iran probably has purchased enriched uranium from various sources.

Should Iran attack Israel, Israel might be forced to do what it should have been doing all along, and that is to take out Iran's nuclear program. I do not see why Israel cannot use its ballistic missles to attack Iran.

594 Marlin925  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:21:09pm

re: #511 DeeMack

;-)

As a funny side note...mom called me today from Miami to tell me that the PO-leese almost had to be called to the local grocery store when an Obamatard with a red "Change" T-shirt started telling all the people in line that they had to vote for "Change". Let's just say the "Cubanos" down there ain't havin' it and a big 'ol ruccus followed!

The 0ne told his 'tards to "get in their faces", I guess they're heeding his advice!

595 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:21:15pm

re: #490 OldLineTexan

Before you use it, better let me double-check that recipe! I do know it needs to sit 10 minutes before you turn it out of the pan.

/I use a Bundt pan and bake it one piece...mmmmmmm

Hey! I had it all made and now you come up with the little secrets!

596 debutaunt  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:23:49pm

re: #512 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Note to self: do not buy that cheap "play sand" for the kids.

"Shards o' Glass!

597 Bos2112  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:23:56pm

re: #554 A Kiwi Infidel

Hmmm? Could be a move to get both candidates to show their hand on whether they would support Israel militarily. They dont have to of course. But if a pre-emtive strike against Israel happens on Bush's watch it is a moot point. I do think that if Israel strikes first that the whole world, sorry, I mean nations, will condemn it, both Israel and the strike. This is a given as pretty much everyone except the US is against Israel now. That has to be the tactic Iran is trying to push here. Get Israel to strike first, get condemnation going, Bush caught between a rock and a hard place, Obama saying he never would have condoned it, the big O's rating go up, wins POTUS race, all nations come against Israel. It is a biblical scenarion ergo Zecharia 12


Biblical indeed!
Personally I dont think this scenario would happen if McCain was elected because he would have no problem helping Israel no matter what NATO or the UN said. (McCain is one of very few people in politics that sees the islamic threat for what it is)

Obama on the other hand would let it all happen -Then step in to bring a peace accord that gives everything to Islam except maybe Tel-Aviv. He will tell everyone its the right thing to do. Wwe would then be pals with Palestine and his minions will back him as the "new" face of America. All the while Jews are slaughtered while the MSM turns a blind eye.

I think the Israelis are smart enough not to do any large scale pre-emptive ops. I think they will do the same thing they did with Syria a few months back, catch them with their pants down and watch them try to cover it up-lol. But ONLY if McCain is in the President elect or in office.

I can defiantly see Obama backing away from helping Israel in any way in the name of not escalating the situation. This guy is pro-islam no doubt about it. I was in the Army and was a Counter-Intel analyst this guy and his friends set off EVERY flag there is.

598 Flavia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:37:39pm

re: #28 P. Aaron

SCENARIO: Iran attackes Israel, Israel strikes back with great effect.

Obama (along with the 'civilized world') admonishes Israel, and sends Iran a blank check consisting of US aid & apologies.

EXACTLY.

Israel did Osirak for us, & what did she get? The Roadmap (tm) shoved down her throat, & not the terrorists'. The US' support for Israel is just as cynical as the Arabs' use of their people's hatred of Jews. I don't mind all that much: no country is obligated to support another, & the US will always support Israel so long as it is in our best interests. I guess I'm just feeling old, because it's all making me feel so cynical.

599 docremulac  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:50:29pm

Best thing that could happen. Stupid Iranians flying crappy outdated planes to martyrdom.

Let's say they patched together 100 vintage 60s 70s and 80s technology fighter bombers and flew off to Israel screaming allah akbar. MAYBE half would reach their targets but you can bet none of them would make it back. They might blow a couple of transport planes left on the ground and it might take 6 to 8 hours to fix all the holes they made in Israeli airfields but the aftermath would be no Iranian air force.

600 looking closely  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 1:56:38pm

The Iranians are obviously scared and are posturing, that is clear. They know a pre-emptive attack is likely, so in typical Iranian fashion, they're trying to bluster their way out of it, hoping someone else puts the reigns on Israel.

But for the Nth time, the point remains, Obama's Puppies and Unicorns "sit down with our enemies and chat" approach stinks of weakness, and it INCREASES the likelihood of a shooting war in Iran.

Its particularly bad now, because with oil prices falling, Iran's economy is going to get even worse, and it will be that much more susceptible to economic pressure.

601 Flavia  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:18:00pm

I will be able to count on the fingers of one foot how many nations will say that it is Iran who created the possibility that Israel would feel forced to attack them, & therefore has less than no right to even pretend she should be even considering a "preemptive strike". & no, that was not an accidentally mixed metaphor.

602 GoldwaterGirl  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 2:51:48pm

re: #31 CyanSnowHawk

Thanks for the laugh.

603 Dustyvet  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:20:14pm

re: #600 looking closely

The Iranians are obviously scared and are posturing, that is clear. They know a pre-emptive attack is likely, so in typical Iranian fashion, they're trying to bluster their way out of it, hoping someone else puts the reigns on Israel.

But for the Nth time, the point remains, Obama's Puppies and Unicorns "sit down with our enemies and chat" approach stinks of weakness, and it INCREASES the likelihood of a shooting war in Iran.

Its particularly bad now, because with oil prices falling, Iran's economy is going to get even worse, and it will be that much more susceptible to economic pressure.

And then all these Puppies and Unicorns will want to hold hands with the Iranians and sing Kum Ba Yah.

604 mattm  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:46:41pm

But The One was going to talk to them and bring peace to the world, with pretty little butterfly's and bunny's on his shoulder.

605 jas  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:46:44pm

re: #291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

No, but I read his things on 1210's website.

Smerconish has become such a tool. I can't listen to him anymore.

606 Perplexed  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:49:21pm

All of the cheap plastic keys in the world won't protect them this time. Remember during the Iran/Iraq wars children were used to clear mine fields, barbed wire, and used in human wave attacks. The Iraqis had a difficult time in killing the child warriors cannon fodder coming from Iran. If the Iranians use children as tip of the spear against Israel, then the IDF won't have a chance as the IDF doesn't voluntarily kill children by the thousands.

607 jas  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:51:30pm

re: #328 calcajun

And if they do, then it will be a cold day in hell before either party ever again nominates an African American for POTUS.

Just the Dems...if the Republican had nominated someone like Michael Steele, he'd get the same treatment the Sarah Palin is now.

608 samsgran1948  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 3:56:05pm

I'm making a wild guess here:

The price of oil has tanked over the last couple of weeks. The mullahs are losing money hand over fist, and are encountering big problems trying to keep Mo hammed Six-pack happy enough to not revolt. They are also having a hard time coming up with the cash to keep supporting Hezbollah and Hamas in the style to which they've become accustomed.

Provoking either Israel or the US into bombing the hell out of Iran will trigger the Iranian street's patriotism enough to keep them on the leash and will prompt the rest of the Islamic world to support them in their righteous struggle against the Big and Little Satans.

609 readytofight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:05:48pm

Hi everyone.

Would it sound too paranoid to put forth the idea that this so called testing Biden speaks about might be yet another generated crisis that will happen after the election IF Barry gets in to gain more control of our country. I mean the response thing is wierd, we might not like how he reacts to it at first?

Biden is either brainless
or
He's calling for help-as in "Get me outta this!"
or
They're setting their followers up for the next "crisis"

May sound nuts, but I don't think it's that far fetched.

Somebody let me know what you think.

610 straitcircle  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:19:46pm

If Obama is elected, he will ignore the world. He will be too busy trying to take Joe the Plumber's house and take control of his little savings and give it to Soros and his rich buddies to they can propogate the myth of the demi fraud. I'm not sure if he knows of geograghy outside of Chicago's southside? The world ends at the borders of the southside.

611 LGoPs  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 4:29:05pm

re: #166 Iron Fist

Glassifaction Pacification. That's how we should have started this war in 2001. Hit them so damn hard that they will be an example of what happens when you kill Americans. Something like how the Romans handled Carthage, but at sub-orbital velocities.

I would have loved to have hit them hard enough that in a 1000 years, when dealing with unruly, snot-nosed children, Islamic mothers would control them by saying "the Americans are coming"........

612 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:54:22pm

Israel should just bomb their one and only refinery

Iran cannot attack Israel, even counterattack
how could they manage to get past Iraq and US forces ?

613 Adrenalyn  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 5:56:23pm

re: #609 readytofight

Hi everyone.

Would it sound too paranoid to put forth the idea that this so called testing Biden speaks about might be yet another generated crisis that will happen after the election IF Barry gets in to gain more control of our country. I mean the response thing is wierd, we might not like how he reacts to it at first?

Biden is either brainless
or
He's calling for help-as in "Get me outta this!"
or
They're setting their followers up for the next "crisis"

May sound nuts, but I don't think it's that far fetched.

Somebody let me know what you think.


honestly, if Biden were a patriot
he would resign from his VP slot
and BEG the country to NOT vote for 0bama

man, I'd have so much respect for him then
I'd go to church and make a donation Sunday

614 readytofight  Wed, Oct 22, 2008 6:26:50pm

Re: 613
honestly, if Biden were a patriot
he would resign from his VP slot
and BEG the country to NOT vote for 0bama

man, I'd have so much respect for him then
I'd go to church and make a donation Sunday


I agree, but I don't believe he is a patriot. He's the 3rd most liberal person in the senate.

615 Ron Shaw  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 7:21:50am

...why not wait a few months and then they can launch a preemptive nuclear strike against Israel...and if the idiot one is prez he and Juju-bee Joe can cozy-up to their pals the Iranians...because if the crap hits the fan and I'd suggest the nuking of Israel qualifies, Borat Barrack has said he will side with the Muslims...but, it'll take us some time to realize their decision to do so was right as Juju-bee Joe has suggested. So, be strong and stand behind the messiah as he votes present with his comrade dimwit dems in congress and Eeyore's his way lost, dazed and confused in our 40-acre wood...
...and take particular note as the Jewish voters in this country cast their ballots for bho in the 85% to 90% range.
All of this crud is so Matrix-like and Hollywood facade-ish that it is frightening!


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