Watch this video, it's a scream.

So, shall we continue talking about zombie's work?

I vote AYE. (Or Arghh if you're a pirate.)
;)

The big thing that will define this election probably hasn't happened yet.

Marching into darkness, unafraid? No, but unbowed.

Nite all ... that last thread wore me out!

Lizard meet/party - Lizards and mates.

Sunday 26th of Oct. 11 am - 3 pm

Walnut Creek, CA 94595

25 miles East of San Francisco.

Locals and Nomads welcome.

BYOB and a pot luck if you wish.

Bring what ever food you wish to cook.

World class commercial kitchen available. BBQ grills. Picnic area.

BBQ briquettes provided.

Heated swimming pool. Bring your suits. Changing rooms etc. available.

We have the ground floor of a 1930s Mansion/museum and outdoor patio reserved.

If it rains we have indoors - if not we have both.

My Halloween treat and thanks to LGF - so no cost to you.

Email for directions and location - secure, private, gated/guarded community.

Plenty of parking ... 100+.

For those that are paranoid & suspicious this is a leftist setup - 6 of us have already met once in SF.

RawMuse hosted that one.

We all like each other.

I volunteered to host the next meet.

This is it.

Really impressed that Zombie could uncover this book and other Conservatives didn't. Good work Zombie! On another issue, what do you make of these crazy Polls?

These are times in which all good men and women need to stand up and fight, while we still may.

Commies coming out of 0bama's butt.

How is this election even close? *sigh*

On THAT note *yawning*, I'm outty. The daily caffeine is wearing off and I've exhausted myself sending the Prairie Fire link to every news organization I could think of. I'm sure I'll come up with some more tomorrow. NEVER SAY DIE!

Again...mad props to the Great Zombie. I'm not worthy.

Sweet dreams.

BTW, speaking of BBQ, here is a plug for a company I like.

Ayers and Dohrn can roast in hell

Did Ayers and Dorhn ever reveal where they were hiding-out while they were in ...hiding?

re: #12 oldbennevis

BHO's dorm room

1 down 3 to go! Go Phillies

Phillies 3, Rays 2 .......final

Could Ayers be charged with treason on the basis of what he has admitted to?

Hello Night Lizards! The area of Illinois known as Near Iowa was cold and partly sunny today. They sunny part was to the West.

I'm amazed at the lack of concern in this country over commie-creep and sharia-creep. I think it's strange that the generation that was so angry at their parents generation is now "that" generation --and they are still angry --at -- themselves? I don't get it.

How are you-all?

re: #11 Kragar (proud to be kafir) "Ayers and Dohrn can will roast in hell."
There, fixed that for ya.

Well, here's a question. BHO has bought 30 minutes before game 6 of the WS, right? What happens if there is no game 6? Should we be rooting for a sweep?

re: #13 ACJohn

LOL! But he was only 8.
His treehouse maybe?

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

Could Ayers be charged with treason on the basis of what he has admitted to?

He has already been tried, and not convicted. Plus I think I read that Clinton gave him a pardon before midnight on the last day of his term.

re: #8 AmericanMe

Commies coming out of 0bama's butt.

How is this election even close? *sigh*

What I've noticed lately, and find deeply disturbing is that this information doesn't seem to faze some democrats, especially the more rabid followers of Obama. Communist? No problem, we celebrate diversity.

Anybody see Body of Lies yet? I did today. I'll leave out commentary (sorry about revealing too much with American Carol many threads back) but lots of action!

Me like. The antiamerican crap I ignored.

Please stop posting ridiculous garbage rumors at LGF. The only thing you achieve is to discredit the site.

I'm going to delete any such comments.

re: #8 AmericanMe

Commies coming out of 0bama's butt.

How is this election even close? *sigh*

It's sad...Nobama said if not for Fox News he'd be another 3 points ahead.
Of course, if THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DID THEIR JOB, OBAMA WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THE DAMN NOMINATION!

re: #7 rawmuse

These are times in which all good men and women need to stand up and fight, while we still may.

Amen. These next twelve days could well make or break this wonderful country of ours. I firmly believe that.

Different, yet Friends..
Namaste, Y'all.

Oil powerhouse Venezuela struggles to keep lights on

A socialist-led country in the dark? Hmmm. I wonder if socialist is a codeword for dark.

re: #27 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

It's sad...Nobama said if not for Fox News he'd be another 3 points ahead.
Of course, if THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA DID THEIR JOB, OBAMA WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN THE DAMN NOMINATION!

Judging by the anger of the PUMA crowd, we should be thankful McC isn't running against Hill. She'd be killing him.

You know, the economy isn't as bad as the MSM says.

I got laid off on Oct 10. I'm a software engineer.

I have had so many contacts, and halfway through the second week of my job search, I almost have to fight off headhunters.
I've had two phone screens; have an in-person interview tomorrow AND a phone screen; and have the risk of more than one place trying to schedule interviews at the same time.

I'm busier looking for work than I was working - I don't have much time for LGF!

Who says the economy is bad? Well, if I were a stockbroker or a mortgage banker, I might feel different, but this isn't so bad. I'm in more demand, at 53, than I was when employed and looking to change jobs.

(Now I hope I haven't jinxed it, but there is just too much going on for me to think that I'll be unemployed long)

Good morning Lizards from Bangkok. Sure was strange setting an alarm to wake up in time to watch the World Series. My body clock is extremely confused but very happy about the Phillies.

Zombie knocked it out of the park with that last thread (sorry for the bad baseball pun).

re: #26 Charles

Please stop posting ridiculous garbage rumors at LGF. The only thing you achieve is to discredit the site.

I'm going to delete any such comments.

Thank you. It helps to keep the focus where it should be: stuff we can actually use.

re: #22 odinga

Not sure if this is true.

Very doubtful. Take a look at a picture of Obama, and his mom side by side. There is definitely a familial resemblence.

Joe The Plumber's property taxes seemed so important to the MSM. But not Obama's unpaid traffic tickets or taxes.
[Link: www.wickedlocal.com...]

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. It helps to keep the focus where it should be: stuff we can actually use.

And there is so much to use coming from the other side why would anyone possibly either prop up rumors or make stuff up. The truth is plentiful and useful from those idiots.

re: #7 rawmuse

Yup. No time to go flimsy now. Brass-tax time.

re: #23 twincitiesgirl

What I've noticed lately, and find deeply disturbing is that this information doesn't seem to faze some democrats, especially the more rabid followers of Obama. Communist? No problem, we celebrate diversity.

Exactly, my sister told me it doesn't matter. No guilt by association as far as she's concerned. Gah! I countered with the judgement issue, but got nowhere. Out of seven of my siblings, she's the only moonbat. I feel bad for calling her that, but it is what it is. :-(

re: #35 Scion9

Very doubtful. Take a look at a picture of Obama, and his mom side by side. There is definitely a familial resemblence.

I said it was a rumor. So I will stop, sorry.

This is starting to really piss me off. I've just deleted half a dozen links from the Linkviewer leading to crappy rumors about Obama's citizenship.

If I have to start blocking accounts to stop this garbage from being posted here, I will.

Obama supporters in Ohio are suspected of more voter fraud.

While the MSM is trying to make a big deal out of the money the RNC spent on Palin's wardrobe, I notice no one is asking about Michelle Obama's wardrobe or coiffure.

I did hear that Big Dick Daley is concerned about who is going to pay for Obama's celebration in Grant Park on election night. As the City of Chicago certainly can't afford it. If Obama doesn't win, Daley may have more worries than simple crowd control.

re: #17 ggt Hi ggt! I'm not doing as well as I'd like, but I'm otherwise ok.
Did something today that I SWORE I'd never do: engaged a moonbat couple in a "converstation". They were all for Obama (no one mentioned Biden). When I said that although Bush had disappointed me in some areas, I think he should get the credit for there being no further "9/11"'s on American Soil. They started by saying that it just proved that there is no real GWOT - that 9/11 was a "one-off". The conversation - I fully confess aided and abetted by me - went downhill very VERY rapidly from there.
I cooled off a little and ticked off all the reasons to not vote for Obama and to Vote for McCain. He said that he didn't know most of what I'd said about Obama, she said I was making it up. I responded by sneering at her and addressing him: "Don't you think you should learn about the candidate you intend to vote for BEFORE you vote for him?" and his and her reply were that they did know about Obama - my response was that they manifestly did not as he had said he didn't know these things and "so what" everyone can make a mistake in choosing a candidate and I replied - before storming off - FUCK YOU - YOU are making a voting decision that's going to FUCK UP MY LIFE and the lives of tens of millions of Americans you stupid POS.
I didn't win any friends, but I'm thinking that the male of the couple is thinking about what I said and may not vote for Obama.
And I'm just embarrassed as hell cause I lost my temper like that.

I am Anastassia's grandson. And I declare Putin to be exiled.

Here is something that discuses some of the problems of the polling industry presented by someone on the inside.

It is a short easy read.

Public Opinion Research - An Honorable Profession, Warts and All
by Harry W. O'Neill

re: #42 Charles

This is starting to really piss me off. I've just deleted half a dozen links from the Linkviewer leading to crappy rumors about Obama's citizenship.

If I have to start blocking accounts to stop this garbage from being posted here, I will.

I will stop. I didn't know it was completely bogus. Sorry.

Miss Teen Louisiana: Idiot

re: #32 Kosh's Shadow

I realize I live near Chicago, but I can tell you that there is no shortage of trucks and construction vehicles on the Highways and surface streets.

Somebody is buying and selling a lot of somethings.

There is a rumor that some people call me the Space Cowboy and some call me the Gangster of Love

re: #32 Kosh's Shadow

Good luck with your interviews/search.

I was wondering, too: How can the economy be so bad?

Last week, I went on a business trip and noticed the airlines were full, lots of people were staying at a nice resort, cruise ships were coming & going, and a Starbucks in ATL airport had people lined up two dozen deep.

If the economy were as bad as the *MSM says, why aren't people huddling around small fires/cooking a can of beans instead of traveling?

*F the MSM

re: #51 Kragar (proud to be kafir) Huh, I thought someone called you Maurice!

re: #51 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

There is a rumor that some people call me the Space Cowboy and some call me the Gangster of Love

Is it true that some people call you "Maurice"?

re: #45 realwest

It is soooooooo hard to try to have a conversation with Obamabots.
Especially when you realize they are totally ignorant about him.
It's almost impossible NOT to lose your temper.

Most of the time I don't speak up at all because I'm afraid it will only cause a fight. But then I feel ashamed for not having at least tried.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't!

And I've just deleted at least a dozen links about Jerome Corsi too.

Jerome Corsi hangs out with WHITE SUPREMACISTS, people. And he's a 9/11 Truther. If you post links to his ravings, they're going to be deleted, and you might lose your account.

I've really had enough of this, and I've made my feelings clear over and over.

re: #53 realwest

Huh, I thought someone called you Maurice!

Well, I do speak to the pompetus of love

re: #50 ggt

I realize I live near Chicago, but I can tell you that there is no shortage of trucks and construction vehicles on the Highways and surface streets.

Somebody is buying and selling a lot of somethings.

There's always lots of buying and selling here in and around Chicago. Some of the commerce involves the buying and selling of votes and politicians.

If any of you southwest MO lizards wanted to go to Sarah Palin's rally in Springfield, MO, on Friday, it's been moved from the MSU arena to the Bass Pro Shops parking lot.

Seems the 10,000 seat arena was too SMALL!

When Biden was here a couple of weeks ago, he held his rally in a city park. Maybe 500 showed up, including some hecklers.

re: #57 Kragar (proud to be kafir) ROTL! OK what the hell IS the "pompetus of love"?!

re: #45 realwest

I'm glad to hear you engaged them. Some methods of persuasion are better than others, but it's time we started erroring on the side of engagement, than slinking off and letting the Left set, and own the agenda.

Good Night ALL

"May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face and the rain fall softly on your fields. And until we meet again, May God hold you in the hollow of his hand." -Irish Blessing

Is Obama a stooge of Ayers or is Obama fully on board with the Ayers agenda?

I think the Joe the Plumber slip is telling.

Obama has been described as an empty suit. When he answered Joe's question he sounded more like ventriloquist dummy.

I'm not certain BHO knows what he believes but I definitely think Ayers has his hand up Obama's jacket. Where is Ayers? Hiding in plain sight, yet more visible now than when he was blowing up buildings. Getting kudos from 3000 academics. Why? Why do they care about this guy and his connection to Obama, if there isn't one or the connection is insignificant. Chilling.

If Obama doesn't throw Ayers under the bus after this then I think that speaks volumes. If this doesn't derail BHO it will follow him into his presidency. He has to know that which would explain why he hasn't thrown Ayers under the Greyhound before now.

re: #54 suboptimal

Is it true that some people call you "Maurice"?

I do admit to being a picker, a sinner, a lover and a grinner

re: #60 realwest

ROTL! OK what the hell IS the "pompetus of love"?!

Well, if you dont know by now, I'm not going to ruin the suprise

re: #52 jetprop

Good luck with your interviews/search.

I was wondering, too: How can the economy be so bad?

Last week, I went on a business trip and noticed the airlines were full, lots of people were staying at a nice resort, cruise ships were coming & going, and a Starbucks in ATL airport had people lined up two dozen deep.

If the economy were as bad as the *MSM says, why aren't people huddling around small fires/cooking a can of beans instead of traveling?

*F the MSM

Thanks.

The MSM is really trying to push 0bama-socialism. Nothing can be good under the Bush administration.

re: #33 freedombilly

Good morning Lizards from Bangkok. Sure was strange setting an alarm to wake up in time to watch the World Series. My body clock is extremely confused but very happy about the Phillies.

Zombie knocked it out of the park with that last thread (sorry for the bad baseball pun).

Hey, I watched 8 years of the Super Bowl at 5 am on Monday mornings....

(hot dogs and beer do not go over well at that time)

re: #55 wolfie This is true. However I've now decided that I might as well be damned if I do.
Seriously, I've had WAAAY TOO MUCH BULLSHIT from Obamatrons and especially the MSM (see Charles' earlier thread about how "fair" their coverage of McCain has been).

re: #62 ACJohn

Good Night ALL

"May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face and the rain fall softly on your fields. And until we meet again, May God hold you in the hollow of his hand." -Irish Blessing

And may God give a certain part Irishman named Barack Obama the back of his hand.

re: #52 jetprop

It's mostly the financial sector, and the housing market, with lots of overlap between the two. The high tech industry, MY industry, is stonger than ever. The recession of earlier this decade was far, far worse at this point.

re: #64 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I do admit to being a picker, a sinner, a lover and a grinner

As long as you sure don't want to hurt no one.

re: #48 odinga

I will stop. I didn't know it was completely bogus. Sorry.

Do you have more than one account here?

re: #62 ACJohn

Good Night ALL

"May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face and the rain fall softly on your fields. And until we meet again, May God hold you in the hollow of his hand." -Irish Blessing

/Could have sworn I read that in a fortune cookie.

re: #60 realwest

ROTL! OK what the hell IS the "pompetus of love"?!

IMO, Steve Miller put out some decent music, but just had to be the worst lyricist ever in R&R.

erroring == erring.

re: #61 Captkirk35

I'm glad to hear you engaged them. Some methods of persuasion are better than others, but it's time we started erroring on the side of engagement, than slinking off and letting the Left set, and own the agenda.

re: #49 Wyatt Earp

Miss Teen Louisiana: Idiot

Miss Teen South Carolina - 2007 Idiot?

That might just be an insult to idiots.

re: #45 realwest

Sounds like the male of the couple needs to grow some. Maybe you helped.

I am very worried about our country. It seems there are a lot of people who don't know the history that I thought was basic. --Like communism is bad--.

Sorry you aren't feeling as well as you'd like.

Something else I was thinking of.

The MSM makes a stink that Joe the Plumber doesn't make 250K so he'd "benefit" from 0's tax "cut".
The point is, Joe looks forward to getting MORE than 250K, and wants the government to stay out of his way, and let him keep more of it.

Only people who expect to stay poor want the government to "spread the wealth around".

than == then.. oy'

re: #61 Captkirk35

I'm glad to hear you engaged them. Some methods of persuasion are better than others, but it's time we started erroring on the side of engagement, than slinking off and letting the Left set, and own the agenda.

Today's bit of eye-rolling print media trash is courtesy of my local fish wrap, the Orlando Sentinel (or, as it is called by those of us who have been living here for a while, the Orlando Slantinel, for their obvious-to-everybody-but-themselves bias to the left). This was on the editorial page of today's edition:

Under the title of "Overwhelming force" and a "we think" comment of:
"Powell's endorsement should end talk about Obama's readiness for president", comes this:

If former Secretary of State Colin Powell is not worried about Democrat Barack Obama answering a 3 a.m. crisis call in the White House, you shouldn't be either.

Skip to paragraph three, and you get this:

Mr. Powell said he had been following both candidates for almost two years, and had come to be impressed by Mr. Obama's "steadiness" and "depth of knowledge."

And now the wrap-up:

In seeking Mr. Powell's counsel, and naming Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Joe Biden as his running mate, Mr. Obama showed he is intent on filling in whatever gaps he might have on international issues. That combination of humility and pragmatism would be a welcome change in the White House.

Hey, Sentinel editorial board members, let me piss in your corn flakes: Powell is endorsing little O for two reasons. One, Powell is a RINO. Two, he is a part of the "I'm black and so is he" crowd. That's it. Not that you shitbirds care...

re: #64 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I do admit to being a picker, a sinner, a lover and a grinner

but not a midnight toker? what gives?

re: #67 Intrepid

Hey, I watched 8 years of the Super Bowl at 5 am on Monday mornings....

(hot dogs and beer do not go over well at that time)

The Super Bowl and 5 am just ain't right. Maybe bloody mary's and hot dogs would have been better.

Actually, that sounds pretty disgusting.

re: #21 rawmuse

He has already been tried, and not convicted. Plus I think I read that Clinton gave him a pardon before midnight on the last day of his term.

No, he wasn't tried. The case was dismissed on a technicality (illegal wiretap I believe).

re: #62 ACJohn

May those that love us, love us.
And those that don't love us,
May God turn their hearts.
And if He doesn't turn their hearts,
May He turn their ankles
So we will know them by their limping.
~Irish Blessing

re: #60 realwest

ROTL! OK what the hell IS the "pompetus of love"?!

Do a wiki search, rw. We discussed that here a few weeks back. He "borrowed" it. : )

In light of the non-issue of Obama's citizenship, I do want to bring up something that has been bothering me.

That he is called a Christian. He's no Christian.

Being in the position he is, with so many lemmings looking at him as divine, Farrakhan calling him "the Messiah", etc., well, I'd think more of the man if he repudiated these statements. But has Barack Obama ever said: "I'm no messiah, just a man who believes he has a plan to steer this country in the right direction"?

No, he hasn't. He talks about "this being the moment when the tides recede" and that "together we will heal the earth" and other such nonsense. And he does so in reverential tones, which are appropriate for Liberals when they worship THEIR Messiah, or for Muslims praying to Allah. Those tones are A-OK for everyone except Christians. When we praise our Lord and his word, we're backwards. Old hat. Superstitious.

Not to mention that he was called to Christianity in the pews presided over by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, in a "church" that preaches, in the words of new pastor Rev. Otis Moss, "thug theology"; a church built on racism and racial superiority, phony righteous indignation, division and victimhood. Jesus would have torn such a church apart with his bare hands.

The junior Senator from Illinois is exactly the kind of false prophet Jesus warned of in the New Testament.

I'm not saying he's the anti-christ. I'm saying that the way he conducts himself is quite un-Christian.

Barack Obama's an American. But he's no Christian. He's the farthest thing from it.

-WFH

re: #81 Opilio

but not a midnight toker? what gives?

I have no recollection of those events not would I be disposed to discuss them under advisement from my attorney

re: #45 realwest

While maybe you are guilty of losing your temper, your real error was introducing zealots to facts! How dare you rw?

re: #61 Captkirk35 Thanks, but I don't know what forms of engagement are better than others (I'm talking strictly non-violent here!) and I really blasted them MORE because it was pent up inside ME than because they are stupid, ignorant people (although that didn't hurt, either).
The real problem with Obamabots - White ones, at least - is that they cannot articulate any VALID reasons for Obama's being elected because there are NONE (other than it would be "nice" if American had a Black President which at least I understand as a "reason").

House GOP leader asks Bush to cut off ACORN funds

Well well, well...the GOP is finally showing some Balls.

re: #68 realwest

I'm beginning to think the same thing. Better to give it a try.

On the job I HAVE to keep my mouth shut. (No tenure.) But I don't have to do that elsewhere., and I think you and Capt. Kirk (post above) are right that we need to speak up much more.

re: #87 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I have no recollection of those events not would I be disposed to discuss them under advisement from my attorney

Do you misremember?

re: #6 nigella

Really impressed that Zombie could uncover this book and other Conservatives didn't. Good work Zombie! On another issue, what do you make of these crazy Polls?

my take again
if you poll the 510 area code
you will get overwhelming support for 0bama

poll the 530 area code, 100 miles away
you will get overwhelming support for McCain

re: #51 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

There is a rumor that some people call me the Space Cowboy and some call me the Gangster of Love

I though they called you "Maurice".

re: #52 jetprop

The MSM is focusing on the people who were barely making it before the recent melt-down. Which, I think isn't as large a percentage of the population as they make it seem. There are people truly suffering. There was one report that the local homeless shelter/food pantry is at capacity right now. Something they haven't seen in a while.

Gas is way down --but food commodites are up. It will be a tough winter for more American's that it was last winter. Our church is taking extra collections for the food pantry.

I don't know where to get accurate historical figures on such things. I don't know when the shelters were last at capacity. I don't think we are near or are in danger of being at 1929 figures tho.

ODINGA: I asked you a question in comment #72.

Just got this email from [Link: www.johnmccain.com-...]

While we are extremely honored and appreciative of Missouri State University being willing to host Governor Palin's Road to Victory Rally on Friday in the McDonald Arena, due to the overwhelming demand of the people in Springfield and the surrounding area, we have needed to move the Road to Victory Rally to a larger venue.

The Road to Victory Rally with Governor Palin will now be held in the parking lot of the Bass Pro Shops. This is located at 1935 S Campbell Ave in Springfield, MO.

Doors will open at 9AM on Friday October 24th

All tickets for the Missouri State University event will be honored at the new location. There will be a reserved section for all current ticket holders.

If you currently do not have a ticket, you will be welcome to enter through the general admission area.

To answer a few frequently asked questions: Be sure to leave any signs at home even your McCain-Palin signs.
No outside food or beverages.
No umbrellas, bags, backpacks or weapons (HUH? I added that) of any type.
Cameras are allowed
Please remember this is an outdoor event and please dress appropriately.
Thank you for your support! See you at the Rally!

MSG to CMD Group:

1. Am starting defensive measures now. have 1k sandbags and will ring my position with same.
2. Will fight off attacks for as long as ammo will allow.
3. Will resist going to the political re-education camps to the very end.

Where, oh where is the conservative base of this country? The world wonders.

re: #82 freedombilly

The Super Bowl and 5 am just ain't right. Maybe bloody mary's and hot dogs would have been better.

Actually, that sounds pretty disgusting.

Heh. I just went with coffee and toast.

re: #87 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I have no recollection of those events not would I be disposed to discuss them under advisement from my attorney

"On da advice of my lawyer, I am refusing to answer dat question on da grounds dat it will incriminate me."

re: #55 wolfie

I just say that he is a Marxist and McCain wasn't my choice either, but I'm going to put a cloths-pin on my nose and vote for him. They usually don't have anything to reply.

One person said that they didn't believe Obama was a Marxist. I just said "He is".

End of conversation.

re: #86 wong fei hung

You might be correct about this, but I would caution against using this line of reasoning to persuade anyone. You won't get much mileage out of it, and there are so many other tacks you can use. It's a target-rich environment, for sure. Besides, he's running for president, not Pope.

re: #83 Tigger2005

No, he wasn't tried. The case was dismissed on a technicality (illegal wiretap I believe).

Thank you. Same result, tho'. Unfortunate.

re: #49 Wyatt Earp

Miss Teen Louisiana: Idiot

I smoked dope with Miss Teen U.S.A. 19__..............no, I won't blow her cover.

Looks like someone's right on the cusp of becoming de-Lizardized. ;)

re: #86 wong fei hung

That he is called a Christian. He's no Christian.

/So you're saying he's a Muslim then?

re: #90 Maximu§

House GOP leader asks Bush to cut off ACORN funds

Well well, well...the GOP is finally showing some Balls.

It's about frigging time in a "closing the barn door after all the horses have run off" kind of way.

Someday in the far off future, we will have a Republican Party with leaders who understand that the opposition wants to bury us, not get along with us. (I can dream can't I?)

re: #105 Cartman

It is getting a little hot in here.

re: #92 freedombilly

Do you misremember?

PLEAD DA FIF!

I was referring to your temper, and losing it. Whenever we do that, and I do it all the time, we lose some credibility.

re: #89 realwest

Thanks, but I don't know what forms of engagement are better than others (I'm talking strictly non-violent here!) and I really blasted them MORE because it was pent up inside ME than because they are stupid, ignorant people (although that didn't hurt, either).
The real problem with Obamabots - White ones, at least - is that they cannot articulate any VALID reasons for Obama's being elected because there are NONE (other than it would be "nice" if American had a Black President which at least I understand as a "reason").

re: #105 Cartman

Looks like someone's right on the cusp of becoming de-Lizardized. ;)

agreed
but what happened to the poster in a earlier thread
who's football came up with an error
not in the LGF database ?

zombie, if you're still on here:

Holy shit, dude, I think you just pulled off our "October Surprise"!

Follow up msg to cmd grp:

1. Fellow McC/P troops are circulating here in the People Democratic Republic of Northern Virginia.....our undergound may work after all.
2. Will advise.

CB

I've reviewed the comments posted by 'odinga' and this one's account is history.

This comment sealed it:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Is buzzsawmonkey around? I am reading the comments at Zombies blog, about the Obama book review. You sir, are a one man army!

(That is you, right?)

re: #102 Captkirk35

Not trying to persuade anyone. Jus' sayin'.

-WFH

re: #111 Adrenalyn

I saw that earlier. I believe it's related the "ë" in that lizard's nic. I've seen this before.

re: #102 Captkirk35

I agree, although if you were talking to someone who cares about the religious factor, WFH's points would be excellent to bring up. If.

re: #117 justadot

I saw that earlier. I believe it's related the "ë" in that lizard's nic. I've seen this before.

Which comment?

re: #112 victor_yugo

The guy's an urepetentent, communist/anarchist terrorist. But all Obama will do is repeat his stock answer to the inquiry, and the MSM will nod their heads and move on to Palin and her wardrobe. It's a lost cause (getting our message out, that is, not the election). Short of Obama knifing someone in the back on camera, the MSM will continue to run interference for him to the finish line.

re: #1 Moe Katz

Watch this video, it's a scream.

John McCain and Sarah Palin are clearly inciting furniture to commit acts of racism and violence.

re: #112 victor_yugo

zombie, if you're still on here:

Holy shit, dude, I think you just pulled off our "October Surprise"!

I hope you're right. We keep getting told that your average "Joe and Jane America" don't really care about Ayers. Many of us do, but it may not be enough, at least with respect to this particular issue.

re: #114 Charles

Pretty tasteless.

re: #106 looking closely

/So you're saying he's a Muslim then?

NO he is not saying that.
He's saying he is not a Christian in any ordinary, traditional sense of the term.

re: #90 Maximu§

House GOP leader asks Bush to cut off ACORN funds

Well well, well...the GOP is finally showing some Balls.

Don't you mean some nuts?

re: #114 Charles

Charles, I see your point. Oh my!

re: #97 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Just got this email from [Link: www.johnmccain.com-...]

While we are extremely honored and appreciative of Missouri State University being willing to host Governor Palin's Road to Victory Rally on Friday in the McDonald Arena, due to the overwhelming demand of the people in Springfield and the surrounding area, we have needed to move the Road to Victory Rally to a larger venue.

The Road to Victory Rally with Governor Palin will now be held in the parking lot of the Bass Pro Shops. This is located at 1935 S Campbell Ave in Springfield, MO.

Doors will open at 9AM on Friday October 24th

This on the level?

I don't know the area, but the parking lot of the Bass Pro Shop is bigger than something with the haughty title of McDonald Arena?

And how does one open the "doors" of a parking lot?

re: #74 Cartman Hey Amigo! Y'all surely can't mean that he sorta made up lyrics just so they'd rhyme do ya?!? LOL!
I give him Kudos for making such a handsome living for so long in the R&B and Rock fields though.
True story (or so says a friend of mine who witnessed it) the Steve Miller Band played a concert with the Byrds and Buffalo Springfield one night and the Byrds opened, followed by Miller who blew the Byrds off the stage - and then - grinning, started bragging (on an open mike) about those west coast types who can't play very well. Said Steve Stills, Richie Furay and Neil Young all gave Miller dirty looks and then played something like a two hour non-stop RAVE that put Miller into his proper persepective! LOL!

re: #119 Charles

Which comment?

I'd consult an attorney before answering!

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re: #120 Captkirk35

Short of Obama knifing someone in the back on camera, the MSM will continue to run interference for him to the finish line.

"Short of knifing someone?"
If that were to happen, you bet the media would spin it.
"He had it coming"
"It was self defense"
"Its the Chicago way".

re: #112 victor_yugo

zombie, if you're still on here:

Holy shit, dude, I think you just pulled off our "October Surprise"!

Every day a little more drips out.Seems like a trickle,but I am hoping soon the MSM damn will bust.Then Obama will just be a bad dream.
Ever day the poles tighten,McCain will win.
BTW,good evening lizards.

To the LDS lizards out there in California...you're being targeted...

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Just throwing that out there...

1. How do we call the media out on the carpet? Whether we win or lose, the duplicitous MSM is still there.
2. They will NOT acknowledge that they are in the tank for O/B.

There is so much that is broken, not sure how to fix. Where do we start? We have an unknown fraction of this country that thinks a handout is what they need.....as opposed to hand up. How big that fraction is will tell us how truly off the path to the city upon a hill we are.

I fixed the problem with the profiles -- apparently the old, deprecated Javascript 'escape' function still works better than 'encodeURIComponent' for some things.

re: #119 Charles

I'm trying to find it, Charles. I don't remember the thread right now.

re: #78 Kosh's Shadow
"Only people who expect to stay poor because they aren't willing to work hard enough to move up, want the government to "spread the wealth around"."
Sorry, just hadda add that!

re: #114 Charles

I've reviewed the comments posted by 'odinga' and this one's account is history.

This comment sealed it:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Classy.

re: #116 wong fei hung

I hear ya. But you gotta be kind of careful w/ that line of reasoning in today's environment. We've got to start being smart about how we attack, and our tactics. The Left is always looking to sniff out what they perceive as unfair attacks on Obama's character. His religious purity, or lack of, starts edging awfully close to that line, even here on a blog.

re: #128 realwest

Good story, R-Dubs! As an aside, I always liked Richie's band Poco a whole lot.

re: #120 Captkirk35

Short of Obama knifing someone in the back on camera, the MSM will continue to run interference for him to the finish line.

You sure that would do it? I think they'd rush the body away, find a look-alike, pay everyone off, and say Obama was just playing a joke on a friend using a fake collapsing knife and ketchup for blood.

re: #124 wolfie

I think there was sarcasm implied in that statement, Wolfie. thanks for your defense though.

And for the record, no I don't think he's a stealth Muslim.

But he damn sure ain't a Christian. What Wright and Pfleger preach isn't Christianity. It's hate.

-WFH

re: #111 Adrenalyn

agreed
but what happened to the poster in a earlier thread
who's football came up with an error
not in the LGF database ?

That was a "feature" I meant to point out to Charles. That user is still in the DB, but you can't see it by clicking its avatar. It has to do with a funky character in its user name.

And now for your listening and viewing enjoyment; the complete animated video for Daft Punk's Interstella 5555

re: #32 Kosh's Shadow

You know, the economy isn't as bad as the MSM says.

I got laid off on Oct 10. I'm a software engineer.

I have had so many contacts, and halfway through the second week of my job search, I almost have to fight off headhunters.
I've had two phone screens; have an in-person interview tomorrow AND a phone screen; and have the risk of more than one place trying to schedule interviews at the same time.

I'm busier looking for work than I was working - I don't have much time for LGF!

Who says the economy is bad? Well, if I were a stockbroker or a mortgage banker, I might feel different, but this isn't so bad. I'm in more demand, at 53, than I was when employed and looking to change jobs.

(Now I hope I haven't jinxed it, but there is just too much going on for me to think that I'll be unemployed long)

I drove through the local mall the other day for the first time in years. It was absolutely crammed with traffic, as bad as it used to be during Christmas in years past, except this was a Saturday in October. Roommate and I looked at one another: "What financial crisis?" For that matter, half the people we saw were "people of color" going into stores in packs. Families, mostly, and not poor families either, judging by the nice clothes, fancy SUVs, and large numbers of bags they were carrying out to their cars. And this is not a ritzy part of town either.

If you want to organize a community, build a mall in it. People will "organize" themselves right into shoppin', lickety split.

re: #133 Castlebravo

Cancel Cable. Don't buy their sh!t. Vote with your wallet.

Don't send your children to Communist univerisites, don't hire graduates from same universities. Stop contributing to alumni funds of said universities.

Pay attention to where your money goes. Research charities, etc.

Vote with your wallet.

re: #136 realwest

"Only people who expect to stay poor because they aren't willing to work hard enough to move up, want the government to "spread the wealth around"."
Sorry, just hadda add that!

I like to call them LAZY!

re: #119 Charles

If you are looking for a sock-puppet, would looking for matching IP address' help narrow it down?

Odds are he has been at just one location while posting under the other.

re: #110 Captkirk35

I was referring to your temper, and losing it. Whenever we do that, and I do it all the time, we lose some credibility.

Oh, bullhockey. It's one thing to lose your temper. It's quite another to start shooting (at a campaign bus) or clubbing (little old ladies).

Who is perpetrating the violence here?

Which candidate is giving his silent complicity to these crimes committed by his supporters?

Demand an answer to these questions. If they "take exception" to it, demand to know why they aren't calling for indictments for actual acts of physical violence, without which they have no right to demand you stop pointing out a real Inconvenient Truth.

re: #3 DistantThunder

The big thing that will define this election probably hasn't happened yet.

Maybe it has. The market meltdown, bank meltdown, mortgage meltdown combo is a pretty big deal. We haven't seen its like since 1929. The world political response has so far been far more intelligent, but a mighty big house of cards is falling, and its fall is doing some damage to the real economy.

When all this happens in September and October, how can it not affect the presidential election?

Charles it was in the Zombie thread I believe

he had a weird letter in his name/nic

re: #131 Oldasdirt

Every day a little more drips out.Seems like a trickle,but I am hoping soon the MSM damn will bust.Then Obama will just be a bad dream.
Ever day the poles tighten,McCain will win.
BTW,good evening lizards.

Oldasdirt- But it's all starting to trickle out at the right time! If the election was next Tuesday, it wouldn't matter much.
But we've still got 13 days to go. Remember, the Bush DUI story came out (Via those evil Bush-supporting conservatives at Fox News) a few days before the 2000 election.

re: #113 Castlebravo

Follow up msg to cmd grp:

1. Fellow McC/P troops are circulating here in the People Democratic Republic of Northern Virginia.....our undergound may work after all.
2. Will advise.

CB

Roger. Give 'em hell down there!

re: #130 looking closely

LOL.. yup

re: #142 Opilio

That was a "feature" I meant to point out to Charles. That user is still in the DB, but you can't see it by clicking its avatar. It has to do with a funky character in its user name.

It's fixed. The same problem was happening with 'Maximu§' up above, and if you reload the page it will now be fine.

helllooo lizards. Go Phillies.

re: #133 Castlebravo

1. How do we call the media out on the carpet? Whether we win or lose, the duplicitous MSM is still there.
2. They will NOT acknowledge that they are in the tank for O/B.

There is so much that is broken, not sure how to fix. Where do we start? We have an unknown fraction of this country that thinks a handout is what they need.....as opposed to hand up. How big that fraction is will tell us how truly off the path to the city upon a hill we are.

Technically, the Constitution still permits states to secede from the Union. Might be easier to fix things state by state than try to fix the whole country at once ... have to break down the job into manageable portions.

re: #141 wong fei hung

I think there was sarcasm implied in that statement, Wolfie. thanks for your defense though.

And for the record, no I don't think he's a stealth Muslim.

But he damn sure ain't a Christian. What Wright and Pfleger preach isn't Christianity. It's hate.

-WFH

Concur.

re: #85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil ROTFLMAO! Thanks for that one! Geez, in Wiki no less! LOL!

re: #156 Tigger2005

Technically, the Constitution still permits states to secede from the Union.

That didn't work out so well last time.

re: #134 Charles

Ha. You fixed it faster than I could I find the comment.

re: #155 empills

helllooo lizards. Go Phillies.

no, no, no
go BOTH TEAMS !

I wanna see 0bama interrupt the series with his informercial
it has to go to a 6th game for that

re: #151 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Oldasdirt- But it's all starting to trickle out at the right time! If the election was next Tuesday, it wouldn't matter much.
But we've still got 13 days to go. Remember, the Bush DUI story came out (Via those evil Bush-supporting conservatives at Fox News) a few days before the 2000 election.

Right,,And how you doin Ozark Mountain Daredevil?
I'm feeling very good about this election now,I'm also Biden keeps talking!LOL

re: #156 Tigger2005

Wait, I live in Illinois and it won't succeed --you-all are going to leave me?

Say it isn't so.

re: #147 Syrah

I guess I misunderstood what was going on. Never mind.

re: #154 Charles

Have had some issues on the iPhone version of Safari when I hit "jump to bottom" in the comments and instead it goes back to the front page. Intermittent.

re: #120 Captkirk35

The guy's an urepetentent, communist/anarchist terrorist. But all Obama will do is repeat his stock answer to the inquiry, and the MSM will nod their heads and move on to Palin and her wardrobe. It's a lost cause (getting our message out, that is, not the election).

Has anyone sent this to Rush? Hannity? O'Reilly? Levin? Horowitz? Ingraham? Bruce?

Getting our message out is not a lost cause.

re: #145 ggt

Cancel Cable. Don't buy their sh!t. Vote with your wallet.

Don't send your children to Communist univerisites, don't hire graduates from same universities. Stop contributing to alumni funds of said universities.

Pay attention to where your money goes. Research charities, etc.

Vote with your wallet.

Unfortunately, a policy of avoiding graduates from left-leaning universities is both unfair, and probably illegal. The policy is unfair because graduates from those schools in the hard disciplines already ran a gauntlet. Just by majoring in a real subject, they've defied their would-be indoctrinators. There is normally still a University plugging away inside these "Universities", if you know where to look.

It's probably illegal because your policy would have a disproportionate impact yadda yadda. You're on thin ground just trying to hire people who know a little something. That is a matter of business survival though, and if you can't do that without running afoul of the law, then you just have to do a John Galt and fold shop.

re: #163 ggt

You will still have the internet.

So remember that guy who responded to Zombie's link on the message board I visit saying "It's not like him and Ayers were playing golf every Tuesday."?

After I posted the National Review link detailing how they spent money..... he responds with this;

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I'm sorry, but that article makes a lot of assumptions, and we all know what happens when you assume. First, he assumes that all Afrocentric teachings are anti-american. I would very strongly disagree with that statement. Secondly, he assumes Carruthers’s techings at this group were centered on the anti-american theme. A lot of times, when people are teaching things at a conference, they will leave the more extremist things out (such as let's kill America) out. You save that sort of stuff for people who have bought into your other, more generally accepted teachings, before you bring out the big guns. So when they say he was a "hit" we don't know what he necessarily went over. We know what that man believed, but we don't know how much SSAVC bought in. And we're also assuming that Obama was all for the money going to these sites, even though it says that there was disention in the board - we're just assuming that Obama had the final say? There are just too many leaps in that article for me to take it seriously. His use of quotes mid sentence followed by assumptions are a very useful way of writing persuasively that he employs well. That style is meant to mislead without lying.

And as far as Obama being attracted to Wrights African centered sermons, well of course he was. He's a black man in Chicago! Of course he's going to be drawn to that sort of thing. It's only natural.

I think that some of Obama's relationships are more that questionable, but those with Wright, Ayers, and now Carruthers, is a bit out of hand. The one with the one dude where there looks like there was bribery/favors? Absolutely. But this? Come on.

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What's the point.

re: #166 victor_yugo

I sent it to Rush.

re: #148 victor_yugo

I hear ya. I feel ya.

And we need to point these all the rest of their shit out. I've started posting moonbat tidbits on my Facebook 'What are you doing now' statement. The vast majority of our acquantances fall into Wittle's 'Sheep' metaphor. They don't have a clue, and we have to start getting the word out to the lay person what we're dealing with here.

The idiots who've been promoting this 'birth certificate' nonsense, and Jerome Corsi and Larry Johnson's other stupid ugly rumors, have done an enormous amount of damage to the McCain campaign. I'm really disgusted with this crap, and zero tolerance for it starts now.

re: #158 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Thanks for that one! Geez, in Wiki no less! LOL!

No problem! Like I said, for some reason one of the overnight open threads a couple of weeks ago was re-directed to music. I had always heard that Steve Miller made it up the word.

re: #110 Captkirk35
Respectfully Cap'n - a) no matter how much credibility I may lose because of my passion/temper it will never, EVER equal the total lack of credibility they start out with and
b) I'm only human, ya know?

Secession is a fascination idea, though a bit extreme. Probably the best shot at secession is having the South plus the border states (KY, TN, etc.) as well as TX leave the US -- of course, this is a wild idea.

Interestingly, secession is an idea championed by the left, too. I recently read about moonbats in VT who want that state to secede.

re: #145 ggt
I've already cancelled TIME, Newsweek, Sports Illustrated. I have told them, stop SOCIALIzing everything. Stop bashing everything American.

I get no response....except SI, who asked me if I was sure I wanted to cancel my subscription.

The bigger problem is the MSM is still out there: Courics, CNN, MSNBC, etc....and of course, if they lose (and God I pray they do), they will claim that the country is racist (which it's not), and completely ignore that fact that O/B lost because of their radical leftism. They will not recognize that. Pelosi won't, Reid won't, Hollywood will claim racism......WHY do they get to re-define words, history? language?

THere is a biggger cancer afflicting this country. You notice that the keepers of the public trust (Congress) had the 3 CEOs of the 3 Credit Bureaus on the hill today grilling them over credit scores given to MBS (Mortgage Backed Securities).....why the hell didn't somebody point out the fact that DEMOCRATS strong armed banks into giving loans to people that had no business getting loans? WHen are we going to see somebody of consequence (G. Bush?) put this rightfully where it belongs? I turn purple everytime I hear Barney Frank open his fat mouth. I want to call raines, and Gorelick, et al, and say, GIVE THE MONEY BACK!

We need somebody of consequence and balls to stand up and call the spade what it is............................

re: #173 Charles

Charles, knowing the Left and how they operate, can there be any doubt some of that crap is a conscious attempt to make LGF, and "the Right" look like zealots. I think not.

I'm not sure Obama is anything but a ambitious Ego driven individual. He'll align himself with whatever group that will facilitate his rise to power. He was born into the communist group and found lots of friends of that ilk to help him. When they are no longer helpful --under the bus they will go.

It will be interesting, if he gets the Oval Office, how long that lasts. The Secret Service and FBI will have something to say about with whom he associates.

He reminds me a lot of LBJ in the Ego respect.

re: #156 Tigger2005

Technically, the Constitution still permits states to secede from the Union. Might be easier to fix things state by state than try to fix the whole country at once ... have to break down the job into manageable portions.

A partition? Are you Joe Biden?

/kidding

re: #176 hermeneutics

Read about the state of Jefferson sometime.
It would include the environs of Kilgore Trout, I think.

re: #156 Tigger2005
I will GLADLY put on a gray USMC uniform.

re: #167 lostlakehiker

There a few Lizards who survived Ivy school, you know!

Rare reptiles, though.

Here's a random thought tonight.

It's been said over and over again that McCain is not running his campaign properly. I believe he is and that the MSM won't report it.

When reading all of the positive reports on Obama and looking at the reports on McCain and how overwhelming negative they are, how else are people going to see the two campaigns?

.

re: #114 Charles Holy shit, Charles - I sure hope you delete all of his comments or at least THAT ONE.
Talk about over the top.

re: #167 lostlakehiker

Ah, there has to be a way to do it. --anyway, I was thinking more of journalism students.

re: #175 realwest

No disrespect taken. Like I said, I'd rather lose my temper and make my point than slink away and let them own the joint.

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

A partition? Are you Joe Biden?

/kidding

We already have them. They're called "state lines".

re: #156 Tigger2005

Technically, the Constitution still permits states to secede from the Union.

Forgive my ignorance, but does some portion of the Constitution actually address the subject of secession? Or does it permit it by virtue of not forbidding it?

re: #181 rawmuse

Read about the state of Jefferson sometime.
It would include the environs of Kilgore Trout, I think.

Isn't that northern CA?

re: #168 empills

hopefully.

re: #162 Oldasdirt

Right,,And how you doin Ozark Mountain Daredevil?
I'm feeling very good about this election now,I'm also Biden keeps talking!LOL

I have my tickets to see Sarah friday morning. It's one of the nice things about being unemployed. I mean self-employed. (/Thought I was an Obama supporter for a second!)

Joe Biden- he's like the "jam of the month club"- The gift that keeps on giving!

How have you been?

re: #138 Captkirk35

I could give a damn what the left thinks. The left craps on Christianity every chance it gets anyhow. IMHO, Barack Obama does not comport himself like a Christian. He's never repudiated one statement referring to him as a "messiah", or one painting or photo with a halo around his head, or any of that nonsense. Nor do I believe anyone associated with Trinity Church or St. Sabina's, who listens to and embraces the garbage these "pastors" spew, is terribly Christian. The Pflegers and Wrights of this world are the people that John Lewis should liken to George Wallace. Not John McCain. Those "pastors" are racial separatists. Their real God is $$$. And they are vile.

-WFH

re: #169 TheMatrix31

The 0Bamatons are the ultimate apologists. In their world, everything he's ever done can be easily rationalized and explained away. The unvarnished truth is an afterthought, for them.

re: #187 Captkirk35

You're a poet and you didn't even know it!

(Well, maybe you did.)

re: #189 Opilio

Forgive my ignorance, but does some portion of the Constitution actually address the subject of secession? Or does it permit it by virtue of not forbidding it?

Not sure of the remaining legalities, but it was the half the reason the civial war started.

re: #114 Charles

I've reviewed the comments posted by 'odinga' and this one's account is history.

This comment sealed it:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Wishing death on a political candidate... what a fanatic. Thank you Charles, some people simply should not be allowed to join polite and civilized conversations. Well done...

re: #169 TheMatrix31

"And as far as Obama being attracted to Wrights African centered sermons, well of course he was. He's a black man in Chicago! Of course he's going to be drawn to that sort of thing. It's only natural."

I think that is the most racist statement I've heard in a long time.

re: #184 a marine mom

I agree. I even got fed up with Fox News because the news they were reporting were stating poll numbers that were basically a statistical tie and then moaning about how far behind McCain was and how can his campaign make up the difference so he can win the election. How is that reporting the news when they are trying to make a news story of poll numbers? And this is the news channel that at least usually does report fair and balanced news, but seems to have slipped for a few days.

re: #176 hermeneutics

Secession is a fascination idea, though a bit extreme. Probably the best shot at secession is having the South plus the border states (KY, TN, etc.) as well as TX leave the US -- of course, this is a wild idea.

Interestingly, secession is an idea championed by the left, too. I recently read about moonbats in VT who want that state to secede.

How 'bout we trade California and New York to Canada for BC, Alberta, Sask., and a province to be named later.

Doh. civial=civil

re: #176 hermeneutics

moonbats in VT .

One of my favorite old tunes.

Pennies in a stream,
Falling leaves, a sycamore..
Moonbats in Vermont.

re: #190 hermeneutics

Isn't that northern CA?

I just looked it up -- you're right! Northern CA and southern Oregon including beautiful Coos country. Hmmmm.

Perhaps if people increasingly self-sort into red and blue states, the country could inch toward division.

re: #139 Cartman Yeah, but Ritchie was always too "soft" for me; I also think Still's band Mannassas was one of the most under-rated bands around. They played everyhing from real hard rock, to Country and Western, to Latio, to cajun style to you name it and they did it all pretty well, too!

re: #177 Castlebravo

I've been getting SI for going on 35 years now. I too am about to give up. A once-fine magazine should now be dubbed PCSI - Politically Correct Sports Illustrated.

re: #172 ploome hineni

The party has moved sooooooo far to the left, enough to elect leaders who are lefties. The rest just have to go along, I guess.

re: #6 nigella

Really impressed that Zombie could uncover this book and other Conservatives didn't. Good work Zombie! On another issue, what do you make of these crazy Polls?

This may have already been answered, but here's what Zombie makes of all these crazy polls.

re: #176 hermeneutics

Cascadia.

Silliness can be fun.

re: #177 Castlebravo

That would be us, with our vote. I think there is going to be some changes in Congress this time around.

re: #196 spirochete

Not sure of the remaining legalities, but it was the half the reason the civial war started.

Article 4, section 3 speaks of states being admitted to the union.

re: #192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm ok, Thanks .Moving to my new house,which sux.I am retired now and down sizing my living quarters.Smaller house.

re: #177 Castlebravo

I actually took the time to write to a national magazine (I won't say which one) a writer at the mag actually, calling him on bias and not only did he email me back but the editor in chief did too, to try denying my points.

These "people" seriously think they are right, righteous and right-on.
Savage is still right, it is a mental disorder.

And the next issue had the same writer with his same b.s.

this time, I won't bother calling him/them on it

I think their college professors REALLY brainwashed them

Funny thing tonight:

I've gotten a couple hits on my website from people who, judging by their Google queries, have pretty low opinions of Margaret Atwood.

re: #190 hermeneutics

Isn't that northern CA?

yes, near the Oregon border
outside Yreka

re: #207 gmsc

The polls simply cannot be viewed with any credibility.

All the talk about riots if Obama loses has prompted the following:
The media should shoulder the blame for incitement. All of their glowing reports and articles for Obama and the negative hit pieces on McCain and Palin, coupled with the majority of polls showing Obama with moderate to huge leads will have convinced many that an Obama defeat could only come about through fraud. As tight as the race is a McCain victory is likely to be by the slimmest of margins, which will lead to more claims of a stolen election.

re: #107 Syrah

It's about frigging time in a "closing the barn door after all the horses have run off" kind of way.

Someday in the far off future, we will have a Republican Party with leaders who understand that the opposition wants to bury us, not get along with us. (I can dream can't I?)

I think Boehner has finally reached the end of his rope. Add the "investigation" of Dodd (which I dont think the MSM reported) and we may be on to something here.

re: #198 ggt

"And as far as Obama being attracted to Wrights African centered sermons, well of course he was. He's a black man in Chicago! Of course he's going to be drawn to that sort of thing. It's only natural."

I think that is the most racist statement I've heard in a long time.

And the commenter does NOT SEE the racist content of his comments!

/No irony here... move along now...

re: #189 Opilio

Forgive my ignorance, but does some portion of the Constitution actually address the subject of secession? Or does it permit it by virtue of not forbidding it?

here's a good article that explains both sides of the argument:
Does the Constitution Permit the Blue States to Secede?

one quote: "The U.S. Constitution does not expressly recognize or deny a right of secession. "

re: #189 Opilio

Um, I think that the Consititution was written to limit the Federal Government's powers. So, States, technically are within it's scope.

Or at least, that's what I heard someone say. . . .

re: #205 Cartman

I've been getting SI for going on 35 years now. I too am about to give up. A once-fine magazine should now be dubbed PCSI - Politically Correct Sports Illustrated.

That would be MPCSI - Mostly Politically Correct Sports Illustrated - they still publish the swimsuit issue, don't they? Sometimes the women are even wearing swimsuits.

re: #169 TheMatrix31

So remember that guy who responded to Zombie's link on the message board I visit saying "It's not like him and Ayers were playing golf every Tuesday."?

After I posted the National Review link detailing how they spent money..... he responds with this;
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And as far as Obama being attracted to Wrights African centered sermons, well of course he was. He's a black man in Chicago! Of course he's going to be drawn to that sort of thing. It's only natural.
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What's the point.

Perhaps he is going to be DRAWN to it, but what on earth made him sit there for 20 years, have the guy marry him and baptize his kids, etc? Oprah-ma, supposedly attended Wright's church for a short time, then got the hell out of there.

You can lead a horse to water. . .

re: #216 solomonpanting

All the talk about riots if Obama loses has prompted the following:
The media should shoulder the blame for incitement. All of their glowing reports and articles for Obama and the negative hit pieces on McCain and Palin, coupled with the majority of polls showing Obama with moderate to huge leads will have convinced many that an Obama defeat could only come about through fraud. As tight as the race is a McCain victory is likely to be by the slimmest of margins, which will lead to more claims of a stolen election.

yes but recall 2000
Gore tried litigating the election
and folks from the right took time off work
to counter-protest
virtually unheard of

this time, the vitriol is much worse
both sides will really be wound up

it's up to the media to STFU and not incite it like they did in 1991

re: #208 Syrah

Cascadia.

Silliness can be fun.

Hmm. linky no worky.

Here is the main website. It has a link on the front page to the Cascadia page.

(Hopefully the link-gods will be more permissive with this link.)

re: #210 hermeneutics

Article 4, section 3 speaks of states being admitted to the union.

And the terms are laid out in the rest of the Constitution.

When those terms are no longer agreeable, a state should be able to secede. However, what prevents this is that the resulting conditions after secession would be even worse. Could you imagine South Dakota as an independent nation, trying to set up international relations, commerce, border control, and all that? In any realistic scenario, it would be a nightmare.

What's up with the story about the House Dems considering changing 401(k) rules? My head is spinning...

[Link: www.workforce.com...]

...but I think I can still right my aim if need be...

re: #215 surfinbrant

The polls are credible and reflect the biased reporting from the major media houses. If you disregard all the misdeeds of one party and magnify tiny mis-steps by another day after day, then the publics opinion will be influenced.
This is what the polls are reflecting, believe them.

re: #220 ggt

Um, I think that the Consititution was written to limit the Federal Government's powers. So, States, technically are NOT within it's scope.

Or at least, that's what I heard someone say. . . .

pimf correction in bold.

re: #226 WKSNL

What's up with the story about the House Dems considering changing 401(k) rules? My head is spinning...

[Link: www.workforce.com...]

...but I think I can still right my aim if need be...

This is just sheer idiocy. If there is a better way to ruin the stock market and piss off every working voter in the country with one stroke, its hard to imagine it.

Zzzzzzzzzz......getting late here. Work tomorrow.
Goodnight all!

re: #176 hermeneutics
Uh, respectfully, we fought a war amongst ourselves over that and over SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICAN MEN WERE KILLED in that war.
I don't EVER want to see that happen again.
And, uh, "I recently read about moonbats in VT who want that state to secede." THOSE folks I wish a lot of luck to! Uh, er, I mean, no, no it'd be wrong if we were to lose VT as a State cause they give us so much, uh. Hmmm. I'll get back to you on that one!

re: #223 Adrenalyn

it's up to the media to STFU and not incite it like they did in 1991

? ? 1991 ? ?

re: #227 shanec99

The polls are credible and reflect the biased reporting from the major media houses. If you disregard all the misdeeds of one party and magnify tiny mis-steps by another day after day, then the publics opinion will be influenced.
This is what the polls are reflecting, believe them.

well, how right were they in 2000 and 2004 ?

re: #226 WKSNL

What's up with the story about the House Dems considering changing 401(k) rules? My head is spinning...

[Link: www.workforce.com...]

...but I think I can still right my aim if need be...

Elimination of a "tax brake" = Imposition of a Tax Increase.

The NewSpeak must not go unchallenged.

re: #211 Oldasdirt

I'm ok, Thanks .Moving to my new house,which sux.I am retired now and down sizing my living quarters.Smaller house.

Crap, sorry to hear that. I just bought a house, a custom built log home, that's been on the market here for 16 months, for $50K less than the original selling price, and I got them to include the 20 acres of land they wanted $50K more for in addition to the 5 acres included in the price. So I got the 20 acres for free.

re: #219 JeremiahRight

Looking at a state like Michigan,they could not afford to break away from the union,after 50 years of demon-crats tearing down that state.They need money from Conservative run states to keep going.

re: #232 Opilio

? ? 1991 ? ?

Rodney King riots
guessing at the year though, to be honest

re: #225 victor_yugo

And the terms are laid out in the rest of the Constitution.

When those terms are no longer agreeable, a state should be able to secede. However, what prevents this is that the resulting conditions after secession would be even worse. Could you imagine South Dakota as an independent nation, trying to set up international relations, commerce, border control, and all that? In any realistic scenario, it would be a nightmare.

I'm reading wikipedia on seceding now. Interesting read, here's the URL: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The money quote: Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) was argued before the United States Supreme Court in 1869. The Court held in a 5–3 decision that the Constitution did not permit states to secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were "absolutely null".

It doesn't appear that any significant cases have since altered the SC's decision.

re: #222 looking closely

Or, as Dorothy Parker said:

You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think.

goodnight for real...................

re: #236 Oldasdirt

Looking at a state like Michigan,they could not afford to break away from the union,after 50 years of demon-crats tearing down that state.They need money from Conservative run states to keep going.

yes, and speak of the devil

California is one of those states about to ask for a bailout

re: #205 Cartman
....If I may be so bold, what do you mean "about to give it up?" 6 months into my subscription I was thinking the only thing this mag is good for is the bottom of my parakeet cage......

re: #134 Charles

I fixed the problem with the profiles -- apparently the old, deprecated Javascript 'escape' function still works better than 'encodeURIComponent' for some things.

Charles,

Please keep in mind that innocent lizards like me check the same account from two different locations (work and home), so please try not to sweep folks like me up with the stinky sock puppets, OK?

What would happen if a large block of independent business people simply refused to send their quarterly taxes in?

Not the FICA, payroll, sales tax etc, but the actually taxes on earnings? or just sent what they thought they should owe.

How would the IRS/Gov't deal with hundreds of thousands of non-compliant citizens?

Anyone working for someone else wouldn't be able to protest in such a manner.

re: #212 Adrenalyn
did you counter, or did you just ignore, under the rule of "when arguing with fools....."?

re: #231 realwest

Uh, respectfully, we fought a war amongst ourselves over that and over SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICAN MEN WERE KILLED in that war.
I don't EVER want to see that happen again.
And, uh, "I recently read about moonbats in VT who want that state to secede." THOSE folks I wish a lot of luck to! Uh, er, I mean, no, no it'd be wrong if we were to lose VT as a State cause they give us so much, uh. Hmmm. I'll get back to you on that one!

I agree, Realwest, but there may be a time in the far future when Americans of different ideologies simply can't stand each other and sort, geographically, by state. It is happening, now, on a red - blue basis. Conservatives are flocking to red states -- liberals to blue states. The red states are getting redder; blues are getting bluer. Projecting into the future, it is imaginable that the reds and the blues simply vote to go their separate ways.

Less a war than a divorce.

re: #233 Adrenalyn

well, how right were they in 2000 and 2004 ?

They were right in 2000... that the election would be close.

They were also right in 2004... and Pres Bush overcame a lead and trounced John "I will throw my medals away" Kerry.

re: #238 hermeneutics
Then we secede under duress.

re: #220 ggt

Um, I think that the Constitution was written to limit the Federal Government's powers. So, States, technically are [not] within it's scope.

Or at least, that's what I heard someone say. . . .

(fixed per later comment)

Look at the Tenth Amendment. Whatever is not explicitly reserved to the Federal government, or denied to the States, is allowed for the States or the People. It's the bow on top of the box of governments' powers and citizens' liberty.

Without that amendment, most of the Founding Fathers were opposed to the Bill of Rights in general, fearing it would become the "grantor of rights" rather than a rein upon government.

re: #235 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ok, don't fall into that trap. It wasn't free --you are paying for it. You got a good price --but the seller didn't give you anything.

Feel good about the incredible deal you got.

re: #115 Eagle

re: #231 realwest

Uh, respectfully, we fought a war amongst ourselves over that and over SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICAN MEN WERE KILLED in that war.
I don't EVER want to see that happen again.
And, uh, "I recently read about moonbats in VT who want that state to secede." THOSE folks I wish a lot of luck to! Uh, er, I mean, no, no it'd be wrong if we were to lose VT as a State cause they give us so much, uh. Hmmm. I'll get back to you on that one!

Ski hills? Proximity to Quebec? Rest stops for us Canadians driving to New Brunswick without paying Cdn. gas prices?

re: #233 Adrenalyn

well, how right were they in 2000 and 2004 ?

At this time in the 2000 race, CNN had Gore up 11 points over Bush.

Oh, and in 1980, Jimmy Carter was 8 points ahead of Ronald Reagan with 2 weeks to go.

re: #245 hermeneutics

I agree, Realwest, but there may be a time in the far future when Americans of different ideologies simply can't stand each other and sort, geographically, by state. It is happening, now, on a red - blue basis. Conservatives are flocking to red states -- liberals to blue states. The red states are getting redder; blues are getting bluer. Projecting into the future, it is imaginable that the reds and the blues simply vote to go their separate ways.

Less a war than a divorce.

It would have to be a threesome, though: there's nothing joining MA, VT, NH, MI, MN, RI, DE to the west coast.

re: #241 Castlebravo

....If I may be so bold, what do you mean "about to give it up?" 6 months into my subscription I was thinking the only thing this mag is good for is the bottom of my parakeet cage......

and the rest of my sentence got blocked out because of the bold, underlin, italics, quotes, whatever.....

I reminded myself to go get a parakeet....JUST to poop on the magazine I wanted to cancel my subscriptions to.

re: #239 wolfie

Or, as Dorothy Parker said:

You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think.

goodnight for real...................

That 's a good way to end the night, leaving 'em laughing. On that note, I'm going to check out as well. Till, tomorrow...

re: #241 Castlebravo

What percentage of the "so-called" wealthy live and do business in Califorinia? In the Marxist Utopia--they would be paying for the illegal immigrants.

re: #249 ggt

Ok, don't fall into that trap. It wasn't free --you are paying for it. You got a good price --but the seller didn't give you anything.

Feel good about the incredible deal you got.

Ok...Like when the hotel you're staying offers free breakfasts each morning and free cocktails and appetizers at 5pm. You're still paying for those also.

re: #238 hermeneutics

In fact, the founding fathers never intended to allow secession. Take a look at the Articles of Confederation. It's "permanent."

re: #244 Castlebravo

did you counter, or did you just ignore, under the rule of "when arguing with fools....."?

actually, I did it on a lark
wrote a letter to the editor
and using skills acquired here and in life
I refuted a few citations and hit "send"

to my surprise they came back with a very comprehensive rebuttal

as if no one ever called them on something
and/or no one ever used facts, links, proof

they were shocked I tell ya !

just to be safe, I strengthened perimeter defenses at the compound
in case they want to pay me a visit