Hear hear! The "Obama is a Muslim" idiots deserve similar treatment.

Thank you Charles. We also want LGF to remain credible. ;)

I have to agree.

Thank you for this. That idiot troofer Berg is inducing the low-IQ end of the conservative blogosphere to distract attention from the real issues in this race.

You might consider adding the API "Michelle Obama interview," which is this week's version of the "whitey tapes." Also repped by Berg, natch.

Obama Campaign Credit Card Fraud Alert.

This is HUGE.

Let the other side be themselves and be caught at it.

Let us be above reproach.

besides, there are plenty of legitimate issues with the one. No need to make stuff up!

I so agree, Charles.

If you have any interest in such things, there are plenty of other sites at which to discuss them.

This is Charles' house. He must run it as he sees fit.

Why bother with rumors? Isnt the fact he is a lying race-baiting Socialist who pals around with anti-American terrorists enough?

Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts. /

Facts are what separate us from folks like Johnson and Corsi and others who peddle nonsense, and yet get many folks to buy into their crapola.

Point taken, Charles.

Let us not become moonbats.

re: #4 manny

Thank you for this. That idiot troofer Berg is inducing the low-IQ end of the conservative blogosphere to distract attention from the real issues in this race.

You might consider adding the API "Michelle Obama interview," which is this week's version of the "whitey tapes." Also repped by Berg, natch.

Excellent idea. There's plenty of truthful material to use against this guy; no need to stoop to lies. Leave that to the other side.

Are we electing a president or a demagogue?
[Link: yidwithlid.blogspot.com...]

Many cities' police are preparing for violence in the streets if Obama does not win. I also worry about what will happen if he does win, and he turns out NOT to be the Second Coming. Will his followers be able to cope with Obama being merely human -- and not even normally humanly "powerful", i.e., he's not going to change the world now really, is he? -- or will they violently turn on his perceived "enemies," or on each other, or ON HIM?!

re: #9 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Why bother with rumors? Isnt the fact he is a lying race-baiting Socialist who pals around with anti-American terrorists enough?

/Pee-Wee Herman

YOU SAID THE CODE WORD! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

/Pee-Wee Herman

re: #10 lawhawk

Facts are what separate us from folks like Johnson and Corsi and others who peddle nonsense, and yet get many folks to buy into their crapola.

Crapola seems more and more like a lucrative industry.

re: #5 Lumpy

Obama Campaign Credit Card Fraud Alert.

This is HUGE.

Obama credit card fraud is also being posted on townhall.com. [Link: townhall.com...]

The question isn't where Obama was born, the issue is:

Obama Would Fail Security Clearance
By Daniel Pipes

That Obama's biography touches so frequently on such unsavory organizations as CAIR and the Nation of Islam should give pause. How many of politicians have a single tie to either group, much less seven of them? John McCain charitably calls Obama "a person you do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States," but Obama's multiple links to anti-Americans and subversives mean he would fail the standard security clearance process for Federal employees.

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

I suppose links to Philip J Berg, the man filing the lawsuit are also unwelcome.

Howabout an anti-berg link?

[Link: screwloosechange.blogspot.com...]

Thank you.

We need to focus on BHO's real negatives - which are legion.

Oil powerhouse Venezuela struggles to keep lights on

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

And you know what follows a black out====A baby boom and more need for electricity!

re: #20 Nevergiveup

Oil powerhouse Venezuela struggles to keep lights on

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

And you know what follows a black out====

Riots.

re: #5 Lumpy

Obama Campaign Credit Card Fraud Alert.

This is HUGE.

This is a trick to get you to make donations at the Obama site

re: #22 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Riots.

In Houston, it was the hum of generators.

Two people have lost their accounts so far this morning - one for a series of ugly gay-bashing comments, and one for wishing that 'The Bean" sculpture in Grant Park would blow up while Obama was holding his inauguration party.

This is going to be a rough two weeks.

re: #18 Fritz_Katz

I suppose links to Philip J Berg, the man filing the lawsuit are also unwelcome.

Howabout an anti-berg link?

[Link: screwloosechange.blogspot.com...]

Yeah, he's a kook, and a 9/11 troofer, to boot.

The Berg case sits with the judge now. There is no traction in ventilating about it. If the judge wanted to he could throw Obama off the ballot. That is about as likely to happen as Putin retiring to carry on Mother Theresa's work in Calcutta. Given that we need to go on wit the fight.

re: #25 Charles

Two people have lost their accounts so far this morning - one for a series of ugly gay-bashing comments, and one for wishing that 'The Bean" sculpture in Grant Park would blow up while Obama was holding his inauguration party.

This is going to be a rough two weeks.

Thanks for making this stand, Charles. I wondered WTH "the bean" was, anyway. Now I know.

Limit Setting and clear bounds in the Rules of LGF Engagement, is much appreciated. Thanks Charles, credibility is the issue here, and not controlling free expression of mindful research in debate.
I'm Proud to be a green ball toting lizard!

nice charles. your integrity is one of the reasons i've kept lgf in my bookmarks for more than four years now. just barely more than four, as i came here to find sanity during the 2004 election, but a full four years nonetheless.

good job

However, if anybody is still interested in the Michelle/African interview story, you should know, I have $10 million I need to move out of country right away. Please contact me with your banking details & I will be happy to share $2 million with you just for your trouble.

Thank you and God bless gullible fools.

re: #25 Charles
I hope you've stocked up on treats for the hamsters.

re: #16 poopeedoo

Obama credit card fraud is also being posted on townhall.com. [Link: townhall.com...]

Yet so far only two people that I know of have come forward to state that they've been the victim of this kind of identity theft. Who do these other credit cards belong to? This involves potentially tens of millions of dollars, so you'd think there must be a lot of cards involved. Could it be that the cards are fraudulent too? How could anything of this scale get past the credit card companies?

$650 million -- how much of it is fraudulent? How much came from foreign donors illegally? How much is over the legal limit of $4,600? Inquiring minds want to know.

There's enough fact out there that I don't need kneejerk fiction to know that Obumbler should never be president.

re: #25 Charles

Two people have lost their accounts so far this morning - one for a series of ugly gay-bashing comments, and one for wishing that 'The Bean" sculpture in Grant Park would blow up while Obama was holding his inauguration party.

This is going to be a rough two weeks.

Halloween IS right around the corner. They must have been wack-jobs in lizard costumes. ;)

It would be best to see a McCain-Palin victory speech split screen with the dis-assembly of the Obama platform at Grant Park.

re: #22 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Riots.

You mean a "socialist out"?

/code word, dontcha know

re: #25 Charles

Keep up the good fight boss. Without a site like this we would probably be taken in by the MSM.

re: #25 Charles

Oh Thank you! I like the bean sculpture!

re: #37 Ward Cleaver

You mean a "socialist out"?

/code word, dontcha know

Heh. Beat ya to it (#14).

/notches grip

Lizard's, please do NOT turn this into a DKOS or DU site. Please, Please, Please keep it about facts and not wacko assumptions. Don't give the liberals something to point at and say, "See, they are doing it too." For that reason, I do not to use foul language or name calling when referring to Obama, McCain, Biden, Palin or any other person.

Plenty of real things to look at anyway.

"punished with a baby."
"spread the wealth"
"typical white person"
'bitter clingers to guns and religion'

I think its very reasonable to stick to the facts on what is likely a frivolous attack. However, it is also very reasonable to ask why the Obama campaign did not put this to rest immediately by producing acceptable documents in discovery. It would have gone away without ever crossing the headlines of LGF. Why hasn't the Obama campaign simply produced the documents?

re: #9 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Why bother with rumors? Isnt the fact he is a lying race-baiting Socialist who pals around with anti-American terrorists enough?

No. Neither is selling our most advanced nuclear weapons technology to Chinese communists. Certainly having a National Security Advisor stuff classified documents from the National Archives into his socks, then hide them in a construction trailer isn't enough either. Those people are patriots to the Left.

What makes you think being a proven gun-banning Marxist will do to his electability with over half of America?

Not to pick on you Krager. I'm sure you are already aware of this and are mentally treading water with the rest of us.

re: #1 jamie

Hear hear! The "Obama is a Muslim" idiots deserve similar treatment.

To heck with being a Muslim. I have proof that he's a disguised lizard-man from Alpha Orionis! I have screen shots from the TV up on my website that prove it!

/slightly more credible than hypnosis, birth certificates, or MSNBC

What about that nasty rumor that Obama is NOT a centrist?

re: #42 musicman

Lizard's, please do NOT turn this into a DKOS or DU site. Please, Please, Please keep it about facts and not wacko assumptions. Don't give the liberals something to point at and say, "See, they are doing it too." For that reason, I do not to use foul language or name calling when referring to Obama, McCain, Biden, Palin or any other person.

Well said. Up-ding for you!

re: #48 Gordon Marock

What about that nasty rumor that Obama is NOT a centrist?

He IS a centrist.

He is at the center of his own Universe.

re: #47 taxfreekiller

Here is a good, nice, and very welcome fact.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

"Cheers to Facts that Count"

They are advertising at LGF instead.

THE AYERS/OBAMA CONNECTION IS MOUNTING see Cashill's latest article:

[Link: www.cashill.com...]

Cashill with the help of an unnamed congressman has retained two university based authorship authorities to look into the very credible idea that Ayers helped write or had major influence on "Dreams."

The preliminary results suggest that was the case.

re: #46 Pawn of the Oppressor

To heck with being a Muslim. I have proof that he's a disguised lizard-man from Alpha Orionis! I have screen shots from the TV up on my website that prove it!

/slightly more credible than hypnosis, birth certificates, or MSNBC

Barry is no lizard.

Credit card intergrity issues at the Obama campaign.

From Powerline:[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

re: #40 OldLineTexan

Heh. Beat ya to it (#14).

/notches grip

Darn!

re: #50 OldLineTexan

He IS a centrist.

He is at the center of his own Universe.

*snork*

There are so many issues which should preclude Obama from the White House.

Stupid issues like the birth certificate negate the good ones like Rezko, his pali pals, his socialism, his complete lack of experience etc

Keep it real !

i am voting early today. i am NOT an undecided voter.
no socialists.

re: #54 P. Aaron
THIS CREDIT CARD ISSUE IS FRIGHTENING!

re: #60 reloadingisnotahobby

Check your statements.

re: #44 Dr.Charlemagne

I think its very reasonable to stick to the facts on what is likely a frivolous attack. However, it is also very reasonable to ask why the Obama campaign did not put this to rest immediately by producing acceptable documents in discovery. It would have gone away without ever crossing the headlines of LGF. Why hasn't the Obama campaign simply produced the documents?

or, for that matter, his Columbia dissertation, or the Annenberg papers, or the... (dozens of potentially incriminating documents). Inquiring minds want to know!

Found this over at another site (HA)

This is potentially a fecking nightmare!

Can you say Socialism?

re: #60 reloadingisnotahobby
Is it fact or are we to give it a 24 or 48 hour rule!?

re: #17 opinionated

The question isn't where Obama was born, the issue is:

Obama Would Fail Security Clearance
By Daniel Pipes

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

Another fantasy people indulge in that I've seen is believing that the probability that Obama couldn't pass a security clearance somehow disqualifies him from elective office. There is no magic answer, people have to stop expecting the big daddy Cop to come and take the bad Barry away. People can and have voted for all sorts of strange extremists. Ron Dellums gets votes, Grand Kleegle Byrd gets votes, the denizens of the NY City Council get votes.
Kleegal

re: #35 poopeedoo

Halloween IS right around the corner. They must have been wack-jobs in lizard costumes. ;)

I've got my lizard costume ready for Halloween! I don't think I'm a wack-job, though... :)

Thanks Charles, it amazes me the number of people who think there's something to this story.

Technical note, I've noticed lately when I log in the rating buttons don't automatically get enabled on the comments, I need to reload the page. It didn't use to work that way. I've also noticed some intermittent strange behavior regarding "remember me". I regularly use two computers, so I'm always having to log in. I've noticed on occasion I'll log into one, and when I go back to the other, it's still logged in.

re: #47 taxfreekiller

Here is a good, nice, and very welcome fact.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

"Cheers to Facts that Count"

Think they hear us yet?

Being in the tank for the far left nearly all the time doesn't seem to be profitable.

Thanks Charles & Stinky. There's lots of meat out there and why people are so easily distracted by obvious red herrings chummed into press waters by Dems is beyond me.

re: #61 Ojoe
Believe it or not......I own ONE card thru my Credit Union and that's it!
But yes ! I'll look it over!

re: #67 buzzsawmonkey

You could vote early, then die before the actual election.

No good.

re: #9 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Apparently not. Sadly...

BBL - to work.

re: #46 Pawn of the Oppressor

To heck with being a Muslim. I have proof that he's a disguised lizard-man from Alpha Orionis! I have screen shots from the TV up on my website that prove it!

/slightly more credible than hypnosis, birth certificates, or MSNBC

BHO's no Lizard.

re: #52 ljmw

THE AYERS/OBAMA CONNECTION IS MOUNTING see Cashill's latest article:

[Link: www.cashill.com...]

Cashill with the help of an unnamed congressman has retained two university based authorship authorities to look into the very credible idea that Ayers helped write or had major influence on "Dreams."

The preliminary results suggest that was the case.

It's one thing to compare Barry's books to Ayers' and see similarities, but for real proof you'd need to compare the books to a known sample of Barry's writing. If these books were ghostwritten, then there's very likely NO unquestioned sample of his writing. Quite a conundrum.

re: #48 Gordon Marock

Obama is a Centerist. It's just that Lenin is a Rabid Rightwinger on the scale that Obama is on.

I previously accepted that this story is garbage, but at the moment I'm withholding judgment.

re: #52 ljmw

THE AYERS/OBAMA CONNECTION IS MOUNTING see Cashill's latest article:

[Link: www.cashill.com...]

Cashill with the help of an unnamed congressman has retained two university based authorship authorities to look into the very credible idea that Ayers helped write or had major influence on "Dreams."

The preliminary results suggest that was the case.

This is another rumor that's very close to getting on the banned list. There is ZERO real evidence for this contention, and the guy who's pushing it, Jack Cashill, also writes articles promoting creationism.

re: #52 ljmw

The only problem is that the only people who will care are people like me and you.

If Obama wins, I am sure they plan to continue the "Get In their Faces" policy. An ironic policy for someone who is touted as the great uniter.

If the truth that's out there doesn't convince, nothing will.

re: #65 PrinceofGotham

Another fantasy people indulge in that I've seen is believing that the probability that Obama couldn't pass a security clearance somehow disqualifies him from elective office. There is no magic answer, people have to stop expecting the big daddy Cop to come and take the bad Barry away. People can and have voted for all sorts of strange extremists. Ron Dellums gets votes, Grand Kleegle Byrd gets votes, the denizens of the NY City Council get votes.
Kleegal

And the peeps in Florida sent Alcee Hastings to Washington after he'd been kicked off the Federal bench for accepting bribes. So, no accounting for taste.

Agree we need to stick to the facts and or ideals, but it must also be unrecognized we are at a disadvantage since our ideological opponents don't. That said, prepare for a leftist onslaught.

We are fighting the Soviet Union's Last War.

I linked to the Andy Martin "Obama's Dad was Frank Marshall Davis" story last night.

Sorry about that... won't do it again.

I saw the story as more of an oddball bit of literary rambling than a piece of serious journalism, and as such was more "funny" than "factual", but I can definitely see why you wouldn't want to be associated with that stuff.

You'll get no more of it from me!

Again, sorry about that.

re: #86 ErislDysnomia

Agree we need to stick to the facts and or ideals, but it must also be recognized we are at a disadvantage since our ideological opponents don't. That said, prepare for a leftist onslaught.

We are fighting the Soviet Union's Last War.

Correction...

The Michelle Obama tapes have all the hallmarks of a Nigerian 419 scam "Send me 4 million dollars for the tapes to my bank account in Lagos".

re: #63 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

It's the same basic report I posted about last week. Hot Air finally got around to posting on it. Glad to see it begin getting wider coverage.

re: #46 Pawn of the Oppressor

To heck with being a Muslim. I have proof that he's a disguised lizard-man from Alpha Orionis! I have screen shots from the TV up on my website that prove it!

/slightly more credible than hypnosis, birth certificates, or MSNBC

Hehe. Reminiscent of Joe Lieberman's 2003 address to the Arab-American Institute. Except they were serious.

“He makes me so mad,” said Hanan Rasheed, a Palestinian activist from Danville, Calif. During Lieberman’s speech, she derided him under her breath, at one point muttering: “He is such a Jew.” Later, she said: “He’s running for the wrong office. He should be running for the prime minister of Israel.”

/oy vey

The frustrating thing is that the birth certificate stuff is such a small, silly thing but the big stuff like William Ayers, socialism, etc. isn't getting any MSM traction.

re: #83 krycek

If Obama wins, I am sure they plan to continue the "Get In their Faces" policy. An ironic policy for someone who is touted as the great uniter.

He wants Obamatons to "unite" their fists with opponents' faces.

re: #5 Lumpy

Obama Campaign Credit Card Fraud Alert.

This is HUGE.

Maybe it is an expression of my growing despondency but does anything matter?

So that there be no misunderstanding, I'm not saying that Obama is the the Devil or such, but I am reminded of the movies of the Omen theme. The One is protected. By the media, by various house pets like the anchors of MSNBC and by his fellow Democrats, some of who are patriotic and should know better.

It seems he could shoot someone in cold blood and it wouldn't matter. He is chosen to be the next President. Somehow the American people have been hypnotised to not see reality. We lucky or unlucky ones seem to be immune- so far.

Excuse the morning lunatic rant from the depths of depression.

re: #77 Fat Jolly Penguin

BHO's no Lizard.

Even the best of lizard families have the occasional (insert euphemism) errr bar sinister.

re: #94 opinionated

Maybe it is an expression of my growing despondency but does anything matter?

Probably only one thing matters at this stage: GOTV.

re: #94 opinionated

It seems he could shoot someone in cold blood and it wouldn't matter. He is chosen to be the next President.

Via The People's Cube

re: #68 MrSilverDragon

I've got my lizard costume ready for Halloween! I don't think I'm a wack-job, though... :)

So can i wear your Dragon costume from last year?

I'm definitely calling the 48 hour rule on the credit card fraud story, though. That's pretty far out.

re: #65 PrinceofGotham

Another fantasy people indulge in that I've seen is believing that the probability that Obama couldn't pass a security clearance somehow disqualifies him from elective office. There is no magic answer, people have to stop expecting the big daddy Cop to come and take the bad Barry away. People can and have voted for all sorts of strange extremists. Ron Dellums gets votes, Grand Kleegle Byrd gets votes, the denizens of the NY City Council get votes.
Kleegal

No one expects a miracle that you describe. Pipes is just trying to appeal to the reasonable voters to realize the folly they are about to commit.

Wait, Didn't I hear Obama himself say that he was born on Krypton? What about that, Charles? What about that?

/do i have to write that I'm being sarcastic? really?

Ive been waiting for this..Thanks Charles!

re: #83 krycek

Certainly they will continue with their "get in their faces" approach. I expect that we will see quite a bit of that kind of activity in the first hundred days of an Obama Regime as the Democrats act to solidify their power. The closer that they come to 60 seats in the Senate, the worse it will get.

And I really don't like thinking about how bad it will get if the Democrats cross that magical 60 vote line.

re: #52 ljmw

At first I found the idea a little far fetched. But there is starting to sound more convincing. Somebody somewhere (other than Obama & Ayers) knows about this... at the publisher? Will they talk?

re: #99 Tigger2005

I'm definitely calling the 48 hour rule on the credit card fraud story, though. That's pretty far out.

Other bloggers have replicated the experiment, some from offshore.

re: #94 opinionated

Maybe it is an expression of my growing despondency but does anything matter?

So that there be no misunderstanding, I'm not saying that Obama is the the Devil or such, but I am reminded of the movies of the Omen theme. The One is protected. By the media, by various house pets like the anchors of MSNBC and by his fellow Democrats, some of who are patriotic and should know better.

It seems he could shoot someone in cold blood and it wouldn't matter. He is chosen to be the next President. Somehow the American people have been hypnotised to not see reality. We lucky or unlucky ones seem to be immune- so far.

Excuse the morning lunatic rant from the depths of depression.

It's October 23rd, not November 5th. The same press that is protecting Obama is the one you're believing when you say people are hypnotized.

re: #94 opinionated

Maybe it is an expression of my growing despondency but does anything matter?

So that there be no misunderstanding, I'm not saying that Obama is the the Devil or such, but I am reminded of the movies of the Omen theme. The One is protected. By the media, by various house pets like the anchors of MSNBC and by his fellow Democrats, some of who are patriotic and should know better.

It seems he could shoot someone in cold blood and it wouldn't matter. He is chosen to be the next President. Somehow the American people have been hypnotised to not see reality. We lucky or unlucky ones seem to be immune- so far.

Excuse the morning lunatic rant from the depths of depression.

He is a radical shape shifter. :-)

re: #33 doppelganglander

Yet so far only two people that I know of have come forward to state that they've been the victim of this kind of identity theft. Who do these other credit cards belong to? This involves potentially tens of millions of dollars, so you'd think there must be a lot of cards involved. Could it be that the cards are fraudulent too? How could anything of this scale get past the credit card companies?

$650 million -- how much of it is fraudulent? How much came from foreign donors illegally? How much is over the legal limit of $4,600? Inquiring minds want to know.

This story reminds me of the way Nicolae Caucescu (I may be spelling the name wrong) used to steal money out of people's savings in Romania. Commie tactics for a commie campaign.

Yeah, there's no upside in risking credibility like Chris-"thrill up my leg"-Mathews and company. When the dust settles, the lefty media will be remembered for their recklessly biased coverage with their pro-Barry cheerleaders parading around as journalists.

re: #105 Kenneth

At first I found the idea a little far fetched. But there is starting to sound more convincing. Somebody somewhere (other than Obama & Ayers) knows about this... at the publisher? Will they talk?

It's not just far-fetched, it's loony. Please review Cashill's other work. This is not a credible person.

agree 100% with this thread's sentiments. there are enough REAL facts out there that should deter any sane person who cares about this country's future, to not vote for 0-Bomber. we don't need the crazy crap.

Pelotas verdes y pequenos.

re: #59 Roark

Go Roark! Take someone else with you so we can get a 360 degree subjective observation of how the voting is being performed at your location. Notice the voting canvassers out in the safe zones of the building handing out their literature and "helping" you to make your voting decisions. Notice the infringements and lack of preservation of our basic personal information that is verbally discussed by the check your eligibity to vote people. I was appalled. I heard every persons name and address out loud while I was being in taked. The little booths that we used to vote had cardboard walls which barely covered the writing area for our ballots and eyes were wandering everywhere.
Irregardless, when I cast my McCain/Palin vote, I felt proud to be able to stand up for my American convictions, country first!

Charles, thanks for once again being the voice of reason. As Joe Walsh once said "you can't argue with a sick mind".

He also said "a vote for me is a vote......for ME!".

re: #78 doppelganglander

re: #9 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Why bother with rumors? Isnt the fact he is a lying race-baiting Socialist who pals around with anti-American terrorists enough?

Apparently not.

re: #92 shwaiutah

The frustrating thing is that the birth certificate stuff is such a small, silly thing but the big stuff like William Ayers, socialism, etc. isn't getting any MSM traction.

But from the birth certificate crowd's point of view, if the birth certificate thing turned out, Obama would, by law, not be allowed to run for president. So for them it's the wooden stake quick fix.

Cooler heads must prevail.

re: #114 CantonJim

Also..... No one asks you to explain when they all think that
your insane!
I like that!

re: #81 Charles

This is another rumor that's very close to getting on the banned list. There is ZERO real evidence for this contention, and the guy who's pushing it Jack Cashill, also writes articles promoting creationism.

Does it really matter if someone helped ghost write a book.. Happens everyday with sports books. I don't really like skip bayless on ESPN.. but my lawd that man can write. He can ghost write for me anytime..

re: #81 Charles

This is another rumor that's very close to getting on the banned list. There is ZERO real evidence for this contention, and the guy who's pushing it, Jack Cashill, also writes articles promoting creationism.

Yeah this one is particularly frustrating because it takes a legitimate issue and makes it seem nutty. We don't want the Questionable Associations story to have questionable associations.

In a very real sense, Charles' and LGF's credibility are everything! I gather that this blog was once about bike riding and other such matters. Times have changed, which is the reason damned near all of us are here.

We Lizards are both guests, and members of a purpose-driven community. Let's be mature, rational, and responsible about that. If it sometimes means what one or another of us might consider biting our ****ing tongue, then so be it.

re: #107 cliffster

It's October 23rd, not November 5th. The same press that is protecting Obama is the one you're believing when you say people are hypnotized.

Some polls are illegitimate. Rasmussen is not one of them. And when I see Obama gaining, and my fear increases, I have to stop playing pretend.

Although I continue to look for, I don't know what, a miracle.

That African Press one is a joke. I can't believe people are still pursuing that. I cringe when I see those links.

As an example of how duplicitous the left is, I did a post on that noting how skeptical people should be of it and that moron from the Village Voice lumped me in with everybody promoting it.

re: #118 Spare O'Lake

Cooler heads must prevail.

Damn ...it's noon by you allready?

re: #115 ljmw

You rang?

My pet theory:

MCCOY: (scanning him) Heartbeat is all wrong. His body temperature is. Jim, this man is a Klingon.

/wild speculation

There is a rumor that my birth certificate says I was born in Cleveland, Ohio.......but I am totally denying it.

re: #111 Charles

It's not just far-fetched, it's loony. Please review Cashill's other work. This not a credible person.

Even if it were true, the publisher might not know anyway.

re: #111 Charles

It's not just far-fetched, it's loony. Please review Cashill's other work. This not a credible person.

I agree with everything you are saying. But one reason so many people are making up outrages rumors about Obama is that there is nothing there! No track record of any kind, no accomplishments, no nothing. It lends to this type of lunacy. Dam, I'd vote for an empty suit before I voted for Obama. That was redundant wasn't it, empty suit and Obama?

Anytime someone is spreading rumors that a HUGE story is ABOUT TO COME OUT, the best reaction is to say, ok let's see about it when it actually does come out.

re: #64 reloadingisnotahobby

Established fact, 24 or 48-hour rule notwithstanding, the current consumer credit market is a skimmer's paradise. It happened to me earlier this year (not in a political context). Anyone who touches or even sees your credit card number - be it a pimply barista or an offshore boiler room clearing house, can make a charge, and the only lines of defense are : 1) End user protocols, 2) Issuer security algorithms, and 3) Consumers monitoring their statements. And were a campaign to have lax internal protocols, and if charges were coming in at a likely time that wouldn't draw a flag from the issuers, and if that time happened to be now, consumers probably wouldn't really be looking at their statements until after the election. And then the money's spent. Be vigilant.

I believe that much of this rumor-mongering and spreading of disinformation is (at least in part) due to the MSM's failure to properly assess Barack Obama in an unbiased way. It is because so many people see/hear/read the stances taken by the MSM, and they conclude that the MSM is absolutely "in the pocket" of Obama; the MSM is shilling unabashedly for Obama; the MSM is campaigning actively for Obama; and therefore the MSM simply cannot be trusted. So no matter what the MSM claims, they're discounted. Meanwhile, of course, the rumor mills on the Internet kick in and they then distort, exaggerate and make all sorts of fictitious claims. (And, I sometimes wonder who's doing all this spreading of bogus claims? since it certainly benefits Obama. He can then appear as the abused and wounded one whenever fictitious claims have to be recanted. And meanwhile all the truthful, legitimate claims go ignored.)

re: #111 Charles

It's not just far-fetched, it's loony. Please review Cashill's other work. This not a credible person.

Charles there is a tendency, which is intellectually interesting but not the kind of thing LGF gets into, that cranks and obsessives often are at the cutting edge of new inquiry. They are of course incredibly wasteful in their efforts because they chase down so many blind holes but prudent and rational scholars usually make careers out of improving an old garden not in taming a wilderness.

re: #116 maddogg

Apparently not.

The way the media fawns over Obama coupled with knowledge of the danger he poses puts some people on tilt. They look for a magic bullet story to destroy the werewolf that is BHO. There is no such story; given the headwind we are facing, we have to beat Obama by grinding him down. This is happening, let's not throw our gains away by chasing a false lead.

re: #130 buzzsawmonkey

Trying to establish an authorship connection is wasteful overkill.

... besides flying against Occam's Razor, and time is too precious to squander resources.

I don't understand why anyone would focus on such a topic (birth certificate). There is more than enough valid 'gotcha' items in existence. For example:
- "share the wealth"
- "get in their face"
- "obama will be tested"
- ayres, acorn, etc.

Higher taxes on the "rich" are just going to be passed down to the "not so rich".

Charles,

I appreciate your concerns about the credibility of this issue, I hope that you keep an open mind as we found out from the infamous throbbing TANG memo - authorship is often questionable.

re: #134 Pullus Iulius

Thankyou!
Was that supposed to calm my fear that the"1" is buying the White House?
Didn't work buddy!
LOL, I think!

All of these wild rumors are just cover for one clear thing: the Republican party utterly fucked up when it had the Presidency and Congress from 1/01-1/07. You guys turned conservatism into liberalism lite and now you wonder why people want the real thing. Why do methadone when you can have heroin?

re: #131 Nevergiveup

I agree with everything you are saying. But one reason so many people are making up outrages rumors about Obama is that there is nothing there! No track record of any kind, no accomplishments, no nothing. It lends to this type of lunacy. Dam, I'd vote for an empty suit before I voted for Obama. That was redundant wasn't it, empty suit and Obama?

And that what has become known is soo Absurd, shocking, to find out about A Presidential candidate,(to find his voters still don't Care!) with so little help from Media and vetting,
some are getting desperate, but it won't help to drag misniformation to the end. Becaue His camapign will use that misinformation to Infer everything said than is false.

re: #139 rboa

I don't understand why anyone would focus on such a topic (birth certificate). There is more than enough valid 'gotcha' items in existence. For example:
- "share the wealth"
- "get in their face"
- "obama will be tested"
- ayres, acorn, etc.

Voting against keeping live-born babies alive...

re: #125 reloadingisnotahobby

Damn ...it's noon by you allready?

12:01 pm - DRINK !

I wonder what we're really going to get if BHO wins.

Some people seem to be hoping that he really IS some kind of moderate, even-keeled statesman. Absolutely nothing in his past indicates this, though.

For the rest of us, the questions are "How left is he going to be, and how hard, and how fast?" Are we getting Jimmy Carter, or Hugo Chavez?

There's enough facts about The One to bury him with - no need to peddle lies & rumors.

I was willing to be agnostic on the "Michelle tapes" at the beginning, but at this point, there is no use posting anything about them until they are demonstrated to either exist or not exist. If they are demonstrated not to exist, I hope Charles will allow a post to that. I think it is necessary to demonstrate frauds by anyone in this and or any other affair. The posts that showed the Michelle lobsters to be a fabrication were appropriate. If they do exist, they will be released through Fox and I think posts on the topic should be allowed. Until then, the chance that these tapes exist is lower by the moment. I also note that there is nothing on Berg's site that confirms the statement by API that he is going to represent them in the states. Given that the statements allegedly made on the tape would be of great importance to his case, I would have expected him to comment on that if it were true.

So I suppose Elvis sightings continue to be off limits as well.

re: #142 reloadingisnotahobby

Was that supposed to calm my fear that the"1" is buying the White House?

Can't buy it. We own it. But there's always somebody willing to steal it.

I warned these assholes in several of the Spinoffs they created that if they didn't knock it off the hammer would be coming.

Glad it's finally here.

re: #135 J.S.

I believe that much of this rumor-mongering and spreading of disinformation is (at least in part) due to the MSM's failure to properly assess Barack Obama in an unbiased way. It is because so many people see/hear/read the stances taken by the MSM, and they conclude that the MSM is absolutely "in the pocket" of Obama; the MSM is shilling unabashedly for Obama; the MSM is campaigning actively for Obama; and therefore the MSM simply cannot be trusted. So no matter what the MSM claims, they're discounted. Meanwhile, of course, the rumor mills on the Internet kick in and they then distort, exaggerate and make all sorts of fictitious claims. (And, I sometimes wonder who's doing all this spreading of bogus claims? since it certainly benefits Obama. He can then appear as the abused and wounded one whenever fictitious claims have to be recanted. And meanwhile all the truthful, legitimate claims go ignored.)

I don't agree. People love conspiracy theories (remember the one's surrounding the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown)?

re: #147 Spare O'Lake

Ha! LOL
Carry on!

Besides who gives a rats ass on where someone is born. If you are a legal US citizen, regardless of reason, you should be able to run for office. The born on the soil of the US is an anachronism and should be changed. I, for one, would strongly consider voting for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President were he to run.

re: #143 SFGoth

All of these wild rumors are just cover for one clear thing: the Republican party utterly fucked up when it had the Presidency and Congress from 1/01-1/07. You guys turned conservatism into liberalism lite and now you wonder why people want the real thing. Why do methadone when you can have heroin?

totally simplified overstatement. -1

The report of problems with credit cards and Obama's campaign is not using someone's card, but using your own card with a false name. The website appears to accept donations charged to credit cards that do not match the name entered on the donation. Opens the door to donations in excess of the legal amount or donations from other countries.

re: #65 PrinceofGotham

.....Oh, I don't know. His own admitted cocaine abuse/use just might disqualify him, anyone had the audacity to call him on it.

re: #148 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder what we're really going to get if BHO wins.

Some people seem to be hoping that he really IS some kind of moderate, even-keeled statesman. Absolutely nothing in his past indicates this, though.

For the rest of us, the questions are "How left is he going to be, and how hard, and how fast?" Are we getting Jimmy Carter, or Hugo Chavez?

haha, i'm smooshing my computer and hard drive into 1 inch pieces, lighting it on fire, throwing it in the ocean.

re: #151 jill e

So I suppose Elvis sightings continue to be off limits as well.

I'll bet real cash money that Elvis already voted in Ohio.

re: #135 J.S.

All you need to know about this election you could have seen in last night's Nightline.

With just a couple of weeks to go, was the story about Biden's prediction of an International crises? Was there an investigation of the various Obama associations that are popping up daily? Etc.

No. The main issue was that the GOP spend money to make Palin look and dress well.

Is that an issue for the media to analyse above all?

Maybe it's me.

I feel like I've entered the Twilight Zone.

New I Am Joe the Plumber ad.

re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

Some people have an instinct for the jugular.

Others, alas, have an unerring instinct for the capillary.

I'm now choking on what of that cracker which isn't all over the desk.

re: #154 Lee Coller

I don't agree. People love conspiracy theories (remember the one's surrounding the deaths of Vince Foster and Ron Brown)?

"if Vince Foster had a gun, he'd be alive today!"

re: #28 Ward Cleaver

Thanks for making this stand, Charles. I wondered WTH "the bean" was, anyway. Now I know.

"The Bean" and the newly rebuilt Millennium Park it resides in is about $500 million of Chicagoans' tax money mayor Daley used to line the pockets of his contractor buddies with.

Chicago: Obama's Political Cradle

Charles, I don't want to get banned, and I don't want to seem to be promoting this issue in any way. However, despite the credibility issues of the people involved, there are a couple of reasons why I haven't been able to dismiss this story entirely. May I list them, so that you and/or the other lizards can have at them?

re: #156 big steve

Besides who gives a rats ass on where someone is born. If you are a legal US citizen, regardless of reason, you should be able to run for office. The born on the soil of the US is an anachronism and should be changed. I, for one, would strongly consider voting for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President were he to run.

sorry there Stevo. The Constituion requires a Naturalized Citizen to be Prez. That means BORN HERE. :)

re: #156 big steve

Besides who gives a rats ass on where someone is born. If you are a legal US citizen, regardless of reason, you should be able to run for office. The born on the soil of the US is an anachronism and should be changed. I, for one, would strongly consider voting for Arnold Schwarzenegger for President were he to run.

Guess if you don't want to follow the rule of law - the United States Constitution - then it should make no difference to you.

/do I have to?

Two weeks ago we happened to see an adv. on TV for the One. It was sponsored by Capital One! We couldn't believe it but when they played it a second time-- that was it for us. My husband had two card for his business. He canceled both after a half hour of hassle --wanted to give us better rates, do you really want to do this, etc. He told them that any business that was dumb enough to support any political party was to stupid to do business with not to mention we do not support the ONE!..

Mother-in-law sent them their cards back---Reason: Have never understood your TV advertisements, didn’t particularly care for the style of “what’s in your wallet” and now that you have added the “Obama” statement I just couldn’t handle him being in my wallet.

BTW, have any msm picked up Zombies find last night? That was excellant information.

re: #148 Pawn of the Oppressor

Jimmy Chavez. Wear turtlenecks while check the pressure in your tires.

re: #78 doppelganglander

There are at least 3 examples of Barry's writing: his truly bad undergraduate poetry, a rather pedestrian article for the law review, and a similarly dull essay he contributed to a book on Alinsky. Setting aside the poetry, the other two examples are nothing like the post-modernist writing in Dreams of My Father.

re: #168 Tigger2005

Charles, I don't want to get banned, and I don't want to seem to be promoting this issue in any way. However, despite the credibility issues of the people involved, there are a couple of reasons why I haven't been able to dismiss this story entirely. May I list them, so that you and/or the other lizards can have at them?

please no......we have had them listed before on this site.

re: #150 Shr_Nfr

I was willing to be agnostic on the "Michelle tapes" at the beginning, but at this point, there is no use posting anything about them until they are demonstrated to either exist or not exist. If they are demonstrated not to exist, I hope Charles will allow a post to that. I think it is necessary to demonstrate frauds by anyone in this and or any other affair. The posts that showed the Michelle lobsters to be a fabrication were appropriate. If they do exist, they will be released through Fox and I think posts on the topic should be allowed. Until then, the chance that these tapes exist is lower by the moment. I also note that there is nothing on Berg's site that confirms the statement by API that he is going to represent them in the states. Given that the statements allegedly made on the tape would be of great importance to his case, I would have expected him to comment on that if it were true.

If this so-called tape ever really does surface, of course it would be OK to talk about it then.

But it's NOT going to. This is a phony story through and through.

re: #171 Caplady

I've never seen that. Any links?

re: #143 SFGoth

All of these wild rumors are just cover for one clear thing: the Republican party utterly fucked up when it had the Presidency and Congress from 1/01-1/07. You guys turned conservatism into liberalism lite and now you wonder why people want the real thing. Why do methadone when you can have heroin?

What do you mean, "you guys"? Who are "you guys"? There are all sorts of people on LGF.

re: #166 taxfreekiller

Charles

If we posters need to stay on facts, what is up with SFGoth at
#143 just above.

just saying

taxfree,

Defending the big government Repubs that increased discretionary spending 5-fold while abandoning border defense does not gain you any credibility. SFGoth is right, whether it hurts or not.

re: #175 big steve

please no......we have had them listed before on this site.

Well, I'm not sure they're the same reasons that have been listed before.

re: #170 Florida Lady

re: #170 Florida Lady

Guess if you don't want to follow the rule of law - the United States Constitution - then it should make no difference to you.

Time to change the constitution in the normal legal fashion.

/do I have to?

re: #143 SFGoth

All of these wild rumors are just cover for one clear thing: the Republican party utterly fucked up when it had the Presidency and Congress from 1/01-1/07. You guys turned conservatism into liberalism lite and now you wonder why people want the real thing. Why do methadone when you can have heroin?

I'm going to need some popcorn for this one.

re: #98 HoosierHoops

So can i wear your Dragon costume from last year?

Lol, that is my lizard costume!

re: #181 big steve

re: #170 Florida Lady

Won't ever happen. But thanks for playing!

re: #156 big steve

Not what the Constitution says. Founder's intent was that the President should not have any split affiliation with a foreign country. I feel that should be left in place.

The most wonderful thing about tiggers
is tiggers are wonderful things
Their tops are made out of rubber
their bottoms are made out of springs

re: #90 lawhawk

It's the same basic report I posted about last week. Hot Air finally got around to posting on it. Glad to see it begin getting wider coverage.

Cool. I didn't know that about the last week bit....I wish I could spend all day on here....beats working.

re: #157 Vergeltung

totally simplified overstatement. -1

How detailed a bashing of the Republican party do you want? In 1996, thanks to Newt and his gang, it brought in a fairly libertarian, agnostic Jew who had been pretty anti-GOP (due to watching Cronkite as a kid). That's a big tent. Now, besides tax cuts and some vague pledge to protect our country (with porous borders and mass amnesty), what's left for me and others who were not GOP until Newt & the Contract? I'm not drinking the kool-aid, but lots of others are pulling the trigger for the Messiah. It's really not very complicated. The GOP is the Chrysler of 1980.

re: #168 Tigger2005

Charles, I don't want to get banned, and I don't want to seem to be promoting this issue in any way. However, despite the credibility issues of the people involved, there are a couple of reasons why I haven't been able to dismiss this story entirely. May I list them, so that you and/or the other lizards can have at them?

Please don't. I've already read the arguments, and found them utterly unconvincing.

This is the kind of story that gets conservatives labeled as kooks.

re: #69 Lee Coller

Thanks Charles, it amazes me the number of people who think there's something to this story.

Technical note, I've noticed lately when I log in the rating buttons don't automatically get enabled on the comments, I need to reload the page. It didn't use to work that way. I've also noticed some intermittent strange behavior regarding "remember me". I regularly use two computers, so I'm always having to log in. I've noticed on occasion I'll log into one, and when I go back to the other, it's still logged in.

Charles, I too have this problem. I use one computer at work, and 2 at home, I have to re-login every time, on all of them. And I can't login at all on my iPhone.

As to the birth certificate controversy, thanks for keeping the credibility of this site untarnished. It's one of the many reasons I am here.

It's just not cricket.

re: #148 Pawn of the Oppressor

I wonder what we're really going to get if BHO wins.

Are we getting Jimmy Carter, or Hugo Chavez?

If we were just getting a lousy President, Carter like, he would do some damage- maybe a lot of damage- and he would be corrected in the next term.

What makes me so uncomfortable is that that we are seeing something I don't think has ever been seen before in America. A President- with a compliant Congress- who will also have the major media and as his protectors and cheerleaders.

It could be a very bad formula.

oh rush, that fake crying was golden

re: #180 Tigger2005

Well, I'm not sure they're the same reasons that have been listed before.

Then let er fly but post at your own risk because we for certain have seen all these arguments before....and the big lizard is watching and he has made his wishes abundantly clear on this.

re: #178 Tigger2005

What do you mean, "you guys"? Who are "you guys"? There are all sorts of people on LGF.

I meant the Republican party, not Lizards or voters-as-Republicans.

re: #176 Charles

On that I agree. The issue about the writing style of Obama's book and whether it was ghost written by none other than Ayers is more complicated. A writing analysis could reveal enough similarities in writing style and substance to make the case. The two men do share similar outlooks and social change, and that's worrisome enough. If Obama did have Ayers write the book, it would be a game changer.

re: #25 Charles

Two people have lost their accounts so far this morning - one for a series of ugly gay-bashing comments, and one for wishing that 'The Bean" sculpture in Grant Park would blow up while Obama was holding his inauguration party.

This is going to be a rough two weeks.

There is a sculpture of a Bean in Grant Park? Is this what passes for art in Chicago?

Yikes!

re: #176 Charles

No argument from me. However, the thing that gave the hoax (if that is what it is) traction is that it would have been in keeping with Michelle's character to have done it. Same with the non-existent "whitey tapes". Anyway, I will say no more of them until and unless they are show to exist or not exist.

re: #156 big steve

Thank God he can't. I've had enough celebrity worship in politics and Schwarzenkaiser is a RINO who votes with the Dems on gun control, "global warming" bs, etc. He and his celebrity worshipping supporters hijacked the CA recall away from the true conservatives.

re: #194 bosforus

oh rush, that fake crying was golden

Countdown to Rush being labeled a racist by the MSM...in..3..2..1..

Same, please for the throughly debunked story about Michelle O and the lobster snack.

Thanks for the reminder as well as the hard line stance Charles, I was dismayed that comments and links about that were showing up again.

Is it bad form to do the neener-dance?

re: #189 Charles

Please don't. I've already read the arguments, and found them utterly unconvincing.

This is the kind of story that gets conservatives labeled as kooks.

OK. It's not really the previous arguments, it's more what's happened SINCE the issue was first raised. But I won't discuss it here.

re: #154 Lee Coller

You don't agree with what? (I recall the Vince Foster story, but not the Brown (?) one. Of course, there will be conspiratorial thinking in a certain segment of the population -- I think that's a given. But what quells such idiocy (in the past) has been what's termed a "responsible press" -- and by a "responsible press" it means a press which can be trusted. They acted as gatekeepers, as editors keeping the junk out. We don't have that any more. So I don't trust the MSM at all. The MSM is increasingly resembling "blogs". Most commentators of the MSM variety, I view as abject propagandists who will not hesitate to lie, should circumstances warrant.)

Rush is talking about Berg and Obama's Grandmother.

re: #198 Intrepid

There is a sculpture of a Bean in Grant Park? Is this what passes for art in Chicago?

Yikes!

Well, it's better than this playground.

Elections officials cannot challenge voters on Election Day or reject absentee ballots based solely on discrepancies from verifying new voter registrations, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said yesterday in directives to counties.

[Link: www.columbusdispatch.com...]

That's Jennifer Brunner. Remember her name. I think she is gonna be famous before this is all over unfortunately.

The problem with Obama is that he aided and abetted so many people that hate the United States. It is more than just associating with these people.

Why is Obama attracted to so many hateful people? Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers, Dorn, communists, socialists, Arafat supporters, and even his wife Michelle (in this case, I respectfully submit that families are not off-limits) who was never proud of her country. It seems to me that Obama long term desire is to hate the U.S.

Will Obama continue to be attracted to the Castros, Amendinajads, Chavez, Bin Ladens, Qadaffis, and other U.S. haters if he gets in office? Yes. Inside he believes these people will help him.

The U.S. is damned when Obama brings this hatred to power.

re: #174 Kenneth

There are at least 3 examples of Barry's writing: his truly bad undergraduate poetry, a rather pedestrian article for the law review, and a similarly dull essay he contributed to a book on Alinsky. Setting aside the poetry, the other two examples are nothing like the post-modernist writing in Dreams of My Father.

It seems to me, a non-expert, that comparing a memoir and an essay might not yield definitive results. Everyone uses different styles for different purposes. For an apples to apples comparison, it would be useful, though probably impossible, to get a copy of the draft of "Dreams" rejected by the publisher.

Bottom line, while this is a tantalizing possibility, I doubt it could be proven. And even if it were true, if people don't care about Ayers by now, this isn't going to suddenly change their minds.

re: #202 jetprop

Countdown to Rush being labeled a racist by the MSM...in..3..2..1..

You could start that countdown at any time during the day and it would still be accurate.

.................like Woodward and Bernstein, Lizards,

verify, check sources, and reverify.

Give Charles a break.

re: #185 Shr_Nfr

Not what the Constitution says. Founder's intent was that the President should not have any split affiliation with a foreign country. I feel that should be left in place.

So I guess we think it is OK that a person like Bill Ayers, who professed that he wants his own country to lose a war, is eligible to run for president for the sole reason that his mother managed to whelp him on US soil? The born on US soil is outdated.

"The Forgotten Man"
By William Graham Sumner

The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man. For once let us look him up and consider his case, for the characteristic of all social doctors is, that they fix their minds on some man or group of men whose case appeals to the sympathies and the imagination, and they plan remedies addressed to the particular trouble; they do not understand that all the parts of society hold together, and that forces which are set in action act and react throughout the whole organism, until an equilibrium is produced by a re-adjustment of all interests and rights. They therefore ignore entirely the source from which they must draw all the energy which they employ in their remedies, and they ignore all the effects on other members of society than the ones they have in view. They are always under the dominion of the superstition of government, and, forgetting that a government produces nothing at all, they leave out of sight the first fact to be remembered in all social discussion - that the State cannot get a cent for any man without taking it from some other man, and this latter must be a man who has produced and saved it. This latter is the Forgotten Man.

RTWT

re: #193 opinionated

If we were just getting a lousy President, Carter like, he would do some damage- maybe a lot of damage- and he would be corrected in the next term.

You underestimate the true damage of the Carter Presidency. It was never corrected. The Iranian Mullahcracy that funds Hezbollah, took our people hostage, funded the Shiite militias against our troops in Iraq, and is about to go nuclear... Carter's fault! Directly. No debating the matter.

See how bad 4 bad years can be now?

re: #179 Lizard by the Bay

taxfree,

Defending the big government Repubs that increased discretionary spending 5-fold while abandoning border defense does not gain you any credibility. SFGoth is right, whether it hurts or not.

re: #188 SFGoth

How detailed a bashing of the Republican party do you want? In 1996, thanks to Newt and his gang, it brought in a fairly libertarian, agnostic Jew who had been pretty anti-GOP (due to watching Cronkite as a kid). That's a big tent. Now, besides tax cuts and some vague pledge to protect our country (with porous borders and mass amnesty), what's left for me and others who were not GOP until Newt & the Contract? I'm not drinking the kool-aid, but lots of others are pulling the trigger for the Messiah. It's really not very complicated. The GOP is the Chrysler of 1980.

Wow, I never realized it, but you must be right. All the problems in our country are because of Republicans. Damn.

The book authorship issue resonates with me...

Rush talking about the birth certificate issue now....connecting it to the grandmother issue......something's fishy.......

Judge throws out Wisconsin Voter Registration lawsuit

The Bean

No links--just saw the adv. while watching TV one evening...just made us so mad. We told all the family(big family) about it so they could cancel if they wanted too. I think it was on during a Fox News show--we very seldom watch local (Kansas City) channels. Usually ignore adv. but the ending caught our eye and we watched for it to be replayed and it was later..

re: #176 Charles

If this so-called tape ever really does surface, of course it would be OK to talk about it then.

But it's NOT going to. This is a phony story through and through.

Fox News denies negotiating over 'Michelle Obama tapes'
As doubts grow, African Press insists recordings to be released before Nov. 4

Birth Certificate Truthers = Birfers

re: #218 cliffster

Wow, I never realized it, but you must be right. All the problems in our country are because of Republicans. Damn.

Thank you! :->

re: #220 Creeping Eruption

Judge throws out Wisconsin Voter Registration lawsuit

And the hits just keep on coming!

re: #220 Creeping Eruption

Judge throws out Wisconsin Voter Registration lawsuit

Voter fraud is A-OK!

obama keeps telling people to vote early. seems like he knows things are tightening up and he wants to lock people in before they have a full chance to hear everything they need to know before november 4th.

early voting, with the exception of absentee ballot voting is something we really need to take a look at.

re: #197 lawhawk

On that I agree. The issue about the writing style of Obama's book and whether it was ghost written by none other than Ayers is more complicated. A writing analysis could reveal enough similarities in writing style and substance to make the case. The two men do share similar outlooks and social change, and that's worrisome enough. If Obama did have Ayers write the book, it would be a game changer.

How do you figure that? It seems to me that Obama and Ayers could get caught by Billy Graham in the middle of an orgy that included inter-species sex and the polls wouldn't move one point. That is, even if it is reported with full color pictures.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

It honors the native cuisine of the largest recently-arrived demographic.

So how come Jews didn't get a statue of our native cuisine?

re: #198 Intrepid

Or how about a sculpture of Mel Gibson as Braveheart.

re: #111 Charles

The quotes I saw were vaguely similar, but I didn't find their similarities convincing at all. They just seemed to have being written in a hackneyed style in common.

re: #227 Tigger2005

Voter fraud is A-OK!

SCOTUS ruled that way in Ohio re: ACORN's 200,000 registrations.

re: #230 Spare O'Lake

So how come Jews didn't get a statue of our native cuisine?

FOr a moment I thought you meant Chulent.

re: #233 jcm

SCOTUS ruled that way in Ohio re: ACORN's 200,000 registrations.

it's all incredible.

re: #227 Tigger2005

Only when it is Democrats doing it. The law doesn't apply to Democrats.

re: #197 lawhawk I guess I understand Charles concerns. I'm not sure that I would dismiss Cashill out of hand because he has written about creationism.

Could you post an example, Charles, of Cashill's creationism lunacy?

The info that comes from the authorship study will either back up or not Cashill's claim. Maybe it will be enough to get someone to ask BHO about it. We won't hear anything from Ayers as he has made himself scarce.

re: #230 Spare O'Lake

So how come Jews didn't get a statue of our native cuisine?

Because it would be to expensive. Do you know how much just the freak en sandwich costs with a Dr. Brown soda?

re: #69 Lee Coller

Technical note, I've noticed lately when I log in the rating buttons don't automatically get enabled on the comments, I need to reload the page. It didn't use to work that way.

Actually, it has always worked this way. That's why I recently added a message when you log in, saying that "some features may not be active until you reload."

I've also noticed some intermittent strange behavior regarding "remember me". I regularly use two computers, so I'm always having to log in. I've noticed on occasion I'll log into one, and when I go back to the other, it's still logged in.

The system is not really designed for simultaneous login from two locations, and you may run into conflicts with the 'remember me' cookie if you do that.

re: #231 bosforus

Or how about a sculpture of Mel Gibson as Braveheart.

Should be of him mooning Longshanks.

re: #210 Nevergiveup

Elections officials cannot challenge voters on Election Day or reject absentee ballots based solely on discrepancies from verifying new voter registrations, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner said yesterday in directives to counties.

[Link: www.columbusdispatch.com...]

That's Jennifer Brunner. Remember her name. I think she is gonna be infamous before this is all over unfortunately.

Made a two-letter addition to your very informative post, Nevergiveup.

Ms Brunner will become the "Kathryn Harris" of the left, greatly despised by the right. Let's hope and pray that the PUMA vote will out number the bogus ACORN voters. There's a very real chance of that, because PUMAs are hell-bent-for-leather to cast their votes, whereas the homeless and numerous "Mickey Mouse" guys, not so much.

re: #117 bosforus

That's why we need to start using the info that IS available on Ayers ideology and how he has Successfully infiltrated the ideology that is now spoon fed to the US EDUCATIONAL system. I live in a Conservative state and taught at a local Community College. The textbooks the entire campus uses every semester is prechosen by a group of Thinktank Liberal Ideology PhD. Educators in the State Education Office, and that is at the capital of the state and a very LIBERAL city here. Can you guess what the outcome of the chosen books are likethat we must use to teach from? Start reading about Ayers and then see if the textbooks in your local area are promoting that thinktank socialist ideology! Look at the science and political science and history and psychology and even in the LITERATURE books actual CONTENT! This is the connect the dots where we will have an impact on STOPPING this trickling infiltrating and pollution of democratic ideals into our young minds. Public education is the breeding tanks for socialistic theory! Find facts to prove that! It is the same reason Charles has advocated and allowed debate on the issue of creationism. He is inviting you to offer factual contest to your thoughts and beliefs! Prove it to be credible!

re: #235 willowone

it's all incredible.

We're making Cuban elections look good.

re: #233 jcm

SCOTUS ruled that way in Ohio re: ACORN's 200,000 registrations.

To be honest, that is not what the Supreme Court ruled. They ruled that the State of Ohio must follow its NORMAL procedures to verify voter registration and further extra-ordinary processes were not needed. They did not rule, nor comment, on whether the current process was effective or not.

re: #243 jcm

uh hmm.

re: #233 jcm

SCOTUS ruled that way in Ohio re: ACORN's 200,000 registrations.

Because Bush Sr and Bush Jr packed the court with RIGHT WING EXTREMIST RADICALS

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re: #145 buzzsawmonkey

Go for the Gusher!

re: #219 DistantThunder

The book authorship issue resonates with me...

Rush talking about the birth certificate issue now....connecting it to the grandmother issue......something's fishy.......

I think surrogates should be tossing this bomb around. No need to go into details. No need to mention his grandma. Just say there is a lawsuit in Hawaii requesting Obama's original birth certificate (which he refuses to produce for some reason). No need to go any further into trooferland.

re: #5 Lumpy

Obama Campaign Credit Card Fraud Alert.

This is HUGE.

This is a huge deal. The only way they could do this is if they could possibly do this is if the merchant account is set up for face to face transactions AND they failed to implement the new positive ID checks which went into place last year.

Internet and MOTO (mail order telephone order) accounts require a name match and a match the any numbers in the address (like street number and zip code). Hell, this was standard 15 years ago when I started my first ecommerce company.

But if you relax the ID requirements any script kiddie who stole a file of credit cards can donate money to the campaign. And anyone who has done this knows you can make a lot of money off small donations which no one catches or does not take time to correct.

This is funny! I was going to post yesterday about how O's certificate, but I remembered the rules Charles posted. So today, Rush starts right off about somebody challenging Barry in court about his burf cert, so I log on here an Voila! NOT. Anyway, the only reason is I had to get my burf cert and my son's yesterday, and thought that this is what it is supposed to look like, not like a Car title certificate!

re: #233 jcm

Not exactly. The court ruled that the U.S. Justice Department must bring such allegations. U.S. Attorney General Mukasey is sitting on his hands. The Bush Administration is on its hands and knees, crawling towards the finish line.

re: #198 Intrepid

There is a sculpture of a Bean in Grant Park? Is this what passes for art in Chicago?

Yikes!

No, its steel sculpture in Grant Park that some call "the bean". Also in Grant Park in the Chicago Art Institute, which has one of the best collections of painting and sculptures to be found in the USA. There is real art to be found in Chicago.

re: #143 SFGoth

... You guys turned conservatism into liberalism lite ....

Who are you calling "you guys"?

re: #217 Lizard by the Bay

You underestimate the true damage of the Carter Presidency.

Trust me. I don't.

To many, Reagan's success shadowed much of the damage Carter caused.

In fact, I feel the same as I did in 1976, just magnified a million times. I knew the disaster Carter would bring. I was in school then and I felt so strongly about Carter that a girl friend and I broke up over him.

I have a great instinct for spotting political scumbags long before everyone else.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

It honors the native cuisine of the largest recently-arrived demographic.

Smack!

Remember folks and posters, "the Truth is best protected by a bodyguard of lies."--- Winston Churchill, I believe. These lies and dead ends keep popping up since this election began. Maybe the intention is to throw off the sent and WE go chasing off after discrediting information or maybe 1/4 of the population are loons. DO WE REALLY WANT TO SOUND LIKE A 9/11 TROOFER? No, we don't. Sen. Obama has enough connections to bad policies, horrendous civil programs, acts contributing the plummeting economy, aspirations for higher taxes and wasteful spending, etc. to bury him and help elect the Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin to the White House. Stay on target!

re: #171 Caplady

Shoot. They have my car loan. Well, it's almost paid off, and then I can be shot of them.

re: #218 cliffster

Wow, I never realized it, but you must be right. All the problems in our country are because of Republicans. Damn.

Your sarcasm aside, my point is this: It would be a lot easier for Republicans to sell their vision of America if they actually followed it themselves. It's not that people don't like what Republicans are selling, it's that they don't believe the Republicans anymore. And why should they? Republicans have completely turned their backs on the small-govenment fiscal conservative philosophies. The Republicans that forced a Democrat President to enact welfare reform and sign a balanced budget turned into worse monsters than the Dems ever dreamed of being once they were completely in charge of the wallet. If Republicans are having a credibility problem it's not entirely the fault of the MSM.

re: #234 Creeping Eruption

FOr a moment I thought you meant Chulent.

LOL. It would be a lot easier to sculpt - but it really could blow someone up.

re: #162 opinionated

The BBC reported on how bizarre the American press is in covering such stories -- it's like a BBC "meta report" -- I suspect even the BBC were laughing at the American MSM's obsession with Palin's dresses. The BBC also noted that while fixated on Palin's dresses, they were steadfastly ignoring Biden's omninous remarks about the inevitable "testing" of an Obama presidency, should The Zero be elected...

THURSDAY, Oct. 23, 2008, 11:08 a.m.
By Patrick Marley and Steven Walters
Judge throws out Van Hollen voter suit

Madison - A Dane County judge dismissed Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen's lawsuit against the state's elections board, saying Van Hollen had not shown that any state or federal laws had been violated.

The ruling comes just 12 days before voters will cast ballots for president.

Van Hollen sued the Government Accountability Board on Sept. 10, arguing the law requires the board to check registration information for more voters against driver's license or Social Security records.

But Dane County Circuit Judge Maryann Sumi ruled this morning that Van Hollen had not shown any laws had been violated.

She said mismatched data in government databases are not enough to affect one's ability to vote. The board has said the mismatches are often attributable to typographical mistakes or other harmless errors.

"On Nov. 4, each qualified voter in Wisconsin will go to the polls," Sumi noted. "It doesn't matter if the (Department of Transportation) has misspelled his name or if his middle initial is missing on voter rolls."

Sumi went further and also ruled that Van Hollen didn't have the power to bring the lawsuit even if he'd identified violations of the law.

Van Hollen said the checks - affecting at least 241,000 voters - should be run before the Nov. 4 election to protect against voter fraud.

The board said it is doing what the law requires and argued Van Hollen couldn't sue over the matter because that power belongs only to the U.S. Department of Justice. The board also said it couldn't run the checks before the election because of the short time frame, but that it planned to do the checks after the election.

The lawsuit comes while Republicans and Democrats nationally level dueling charges of voter fraud and voter intimidation.

The case quickly turned into a political fight, and seven groups intervened in the case. Siding with Van Hollen in the case is the state Republican Party; siding with the board is the state Democratic Party, the Milwaukee NAACP and four unions for government employees.

Sumi also ruled that the Republican Party does not have standing in the case.

Assistant Attorney General Kevin St. John said today's decision will be appealed as soon as possible.

re: #150 Shr_Nfr

I was willing to be agnostic on the "Michelle tapes" at the beginning, but at this point, there is no use posting anything about them until they are demonstrated to either exist or not exist. If they are demonstrated not to exist, I hope Charles will allow a post to that. I think it is necessary to demonstrate frauds by anyone in this and or any other affair. The posts that showed the Michelle lobsters to be a fabrication were appropriate. If they do exist, they will be released through Fox and I think posts on the topic should be allowed. Until then, the chance that these tapes exist is lower by the moment. I also note that there is nothing on Berg's site that confirms the statement by API that he is going to represent them in the states. Given that the statements allegedly made on the tape would be of great importance to his case, I would have expected him to comment on that if it were true.

Michelle has lobsters! I got the crabs once while in college from a night in a barn with a Jersey Surfer Girl, and it was a bit of a nuisance and not difficult to cure, but damn, lobsters, I can't imagine the discomfort and having to smash the things with a crab mallet, one miss and ow.

Since I early voted yesterday, can we change the subject and not talk about the election any more?

re: #241 Intrepid

Made a two-letter addition to your very informative post, Nevergiveup.

Ms Brunner will become the "Kathryn Harris" of the left, greatly despised by the right. Let's hope and pray that the PUMA vote will out number the bogus ACORN voters. There's a very real chance of that, because PUMAs are hell-bent-for-leather to cast their votes, whereas the homeless and numerous "Mickey Mouse" guys, not so much.

I'm praying for rain in Ohio and Pennsylvania on November 4th.

re: #223 musicman

Fox News denies negotiating over 'Michelle Obama tapes'
As doubts grow, African Press insists recordings to be released before Nov. 4

Like I've said before, I'll believe that when I hear it, and when it's been verified via voiceprinting.

I could personally care less what people say about Obama. Lies, truth, rumor, whatever. Screw him and his supporters.