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Ayers Republished His Revolutionary Manifesto in 2006

Politics | Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:35:47 am PDT

Yesterday we linked to Zombie’s new report on “Billy” Ayers’ and Bernardine Dohrn’s 1974 communist declaration of war against the United States.

Little did we realize that Ayers actually republished this book dedicated to Robert F. Kennedy’s assassin Sirhan Sirhan ... in 2006: Sing a Battle Song: The Revolutionary Poetry, Statements, and Communiqus of the Weather Underground 1970 - 1974: Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, Jeff Jones: Books.

Outraged by the Vietnam War and racism in America, a group of young American radicals announced their intention to “bring the war home.” The Weather Underground waged a low-level war against the U.S. government through much of the 1970s, bombing the Capitol building, breaking Timothy Leary out of prison, and evading one of the largest FBI manhunts in history.

Sing a Battle Song brings together the three complete and unedited publications produced by the Weatherman during their most active period underground, 1970 to 1974: The Weather Eye: Communiques from the Weather Underground; Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-Imperialism; and Sing a Battle Song: Poems by Women in the Weather Underground Organization

Sing a Battle Song is introduced and annotated by three of the Weather Underground’s original organizers-Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and Jeff Jones-all of whom are all still actively engaged in social justice movement work. Bernardine Dohrn, who during her years underground was on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted list, today is a child advocate and professor of children’s law and international human rights. Bill Ayers, education professor and author of numerous books on democratic education is the author of a memoir, Fugitive Days. Jeff Jones, an environmentalist, fights global warming and other environmental threats that disproportionately harm the lives of the world’s poor.

Idealistic, inspired, pissed-off, and often way-over-the-top, the writings of the Weather Underground epitomizes the sexual, psychedelic, anti-war counterculture of the American 1960s and 1970s.

About the Author
Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, and Jeffrey Jones are former leaders of the Weather Underground. Dohrn teaches law and runs the Children and Family Justice Center at Northwestern University

UPDATE at 10/23/08 11:37:49 am:

For more info on this violent work, Zombie’s report has been updated with some new sections: William Ayers’ forgotten communist manifesto: Prairie Fire.

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1 phoenixgirl  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:36:20am

how old was obama then?

2 noshariaincanada  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:36:27am

A searing and timely publication

3 Adrenalyn  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:36:37am

did Obama sign the foreward section ?

4 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:37:09am
5 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:37:34am

But Obama would have only been in his 40's when Ayers published this. Who are we to cast blame?

6 Opinionated  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:39:02am

Why is everyone picking on just a guy in the neighborhood?

7 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:39:19am

Ayers' ego is truly a blessing to us.

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:39:32am
9 Diamond Bullet  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:40:29am
The Weather Underground waged a low-level war against the U.S. government through much of the 1970s, bombing the Capitol building, breaking Timothy Leary out of prison, and evading one of the largest FBI manhunts in history.

...

the writings of the Weather Underground epitomizes the sexual, psychedelic, anti-war counterculture of the American 1960s and 1970s.

Brilliant.

10 phoenixgirl  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:40:40am

re: #8 buzzsawmonkey

And I'm sure he never read his autographed copy, either. How could he have known?

he has lots of friends that write lots of books and he really doesn't have time to keep up with it all....

11 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:40:51am

It probably only sold about 8 copies, but the idea that he felt the time was right to put this swill before the public again is very disturbing.

12 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:41:08am

O/T but Rush is now talking to a Jewish woman who is wondering why the hell any Jew would vote for The One™ given his past and present associations.

I can answer that in two words. They're MORONS!

13 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:41:08am
Idealistic, inspired, pissed-off, and often way-over-the-top, the writings of the Weather Underground epitomizes the sexual, psychedelic, anti-war counterculture of the American 1960s and 1970s.

It sounds like a fun romp through some wild and crazy times.

14 allah this  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:41:16am

So?

/msm

15 Adrenalyn  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:41:47am

well, the October surprise we need is a photo of 0bama reading it
or another review for the local paper

hey, is McCain even talking about Ayers anyway ?

16 jcm  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:41:48am

With blurb by Obama?

wishwishwish

17 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:41:59am

And Ayers books are mere rhetorical flourishes anyway - nothing to see here.

18 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:42:09am

re: #11 doppelganglander

It probably only sold about 8 copies, but the idea that he felt the time was right to put this swill before the public again is very disturbing.

Sales will go up after Nov. 4th. For sure!

19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:42:17am

Ayers and Dohrn will roast in Hell.

20 Nevergiveup  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:42:36am

Sirhan Sirhan?
One of these days, and hopefully before it is to late, my fellow Jews will realize how antisemitic the "New" Left which has hijacked the Democratic Party is. Shirhan Sirhan. For those who forget, Sirhan Sirhan shot RFK because of his support of Israel and Jews. Hey Liberal Jews, that is Sirhan Sirhan.

21 godfrey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:42:38am

this is just all code for 'black'

22 Phil flavin  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:42:47am

re: #13 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It sounds like a fun romp through some wild and crazy times.

Just like Animal House. With bombs!

23 Adrenalyn  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:43:22am

re: #22 Phil flavin

Just like Animal House. With bombs!

Food Fight !

24 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:43:30am

Hey, Ayers is quite the capitalist. / He was hoping to capitalize on his socialist revolutionary fame and cache by republishing his manifesto.

Che would be proud.

25 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:43:54am

re: #4 buzzsawmonkey

Somewhere, Pete Seeger is smiling.

Pete Seeger recently played a benefit concert for my local moonbat radio station--on September 11th, no less.

26 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:44:18am

Hitchens is actually endorsing Obama - go figure.

27 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:44:54am

re: #26 cartoonboy

Hitchens is actually endorsing Obama - go figure.

Link?

28 Tricky Dick  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:45:11am

You may as well throw this off in there too.

H/T Jawa Report


Video: Ayers' Weathermen Planned "Re-Education Camps"

Now if you really think about it, him being allowed to teach at a university actually fulfills his dream. The truth is, all the surviving Weather underground members have teaching jobs. That's pretty scary.

29 arethusa  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:45:14am

This one doesn't seem to have a dedication.

30 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:45:31am
31 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:45:35am

Do Greg Palast and RFK Jr. -- the authors of the comic book Steal Back Your Vote -- know that Ayers & Co. dedicated Prairie Fire to Sirhan Sirhan?

32 shropshire_slasher  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:45:55am

I love how Bernardine Dohrn is a "child advocate" Terrorists in Iraq hide behind children too. Did Dohrn's mommy drop her on her head one too many times?!?!

33 Adrenalyn  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:46:02am

re: #26 cartoonboy

Hitchens is actually endorsing Obama - go figure.

maybe this will change his mind ?

34 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:46:12am

re: #26 cartoonboy

Hitchens is actually endorsing Obama - go figure.

Hitchens may be a hawk when it comes to fighting Islamists but he is still very much a socialist.

35 yesandno  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:46:25am

Because we know that the trash written by terrorists doesn't sell nearly as well as goal oriented material from early childhood educators.

If at first you don't succeed, perpetrate the hoax another time....

36 allah this  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:46:40am

re: #15 Adrenalyn

well, the October surprise we need is a photo of 0bama reading it
or another review for the local paper

hey, is McCain even talking about Ayers anyway ?

Love that. Subtle and so appropriate.

37 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:46:58am

Seven Stories Press, the outfit that printed this damn thing, is also the publisher of John Talbot's "Obamanomics".

Just a guy in the neighborhood.

38 godfrey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:47:01am

I'm sure Ayers appreciates the national exposure.

39 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:47:29am

re: #24 lawhawk

Hey, Ayers is quite the capitalist. / He was hoping to capitalize on his socialist revolutionary fame and cache by republishing his manifesto.

Che would be proud.

That was my point yesterday. He took the trouble to obtain copyright, so he negated his entire argument by signing on to Capitalism.

40 RTLM  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:47:44am

Wow. Weasels like Ayers really DO like rabbit holes.

41 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:47:56am

[Link: www.slate.com...]
Christopher Hitchens, Oct 13, 08 Slate:
"Vote for Obama
McCain lacks the character and temperament to be president. And Palin is simply a disgrace."

I thought I was having a nightmare-

42 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:24am

The MSM will need a pile driver to shove this down the Memory Hole, but rest assured it will be gone by Saturday.

43 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:34am

re: #26 cartoonboy

Hitchens is actually endorsing Obama - go figure.

Your avatar is racist!

/

44 bosforus  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:42am

If only McCain had taken this to a debate, set in front of Obama and asked, "How old were you in 2006?". Visuals are much more effective than just talking about the deeds of a person.

45 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:44am

re: #20 Nevergiveup
I'm afraid you're fighting a losing battle here. Nothing seems to sway American Jews from voting Democratic
by about a 7-3 margin or so.
And let's not forget that Bobby Kennedy was murdered by this monster Sirhan,Sirhan more than 40 years ago. Hell, most of Obama's recent converts weren't even born then.

46 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:44am

re: #39 rawmuse

Kind of like a man selling his soul buying life insurance, isn't it?

47 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:47am

Look at who else they publish: Angela Davis, another 60's radical fellow traveler.

48 looking closely  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:48:49am

This is not the Bill Ayers I knew.

49 Onslow  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:49:12am

Not the Bill Ayers I knew!


Bill Ayers’ apartment was around the corner and a half a block away from the sorority house. The more time I spent there, the more out of place I felt with my sisters. Sometimes I would stop by just to keep from having to go back to a place I had begun to think of as boring. I guess it was one of those evenings -- maybe on the way back from the library, maybe just to get out of the sorority house, I don’t remember exactly. What I do recall is that when I was getting ready to leave Ayers told me I couldn’t go until I slept with his roommate and his brother. At this point Bill and I had slept together just once. I was sexually inexperienced, having had only one serious boyfriend with whom I had recently broken up.

At first I thought Ayers was joking. I got up; and went to the door. He moved quickly to block me at the doorway. He locked the door and put the chain on it. I went to the couch and sat down and told him that I had no intention of having sex with his roommate and his brother or him. He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black -- that I was a bigot. I had gone to school with black kids and had them as friends all my life. I couldn’t believe he was saying that to me

I felt trapped. I had to get out of the situation I was in and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed and put myself on it and he fucked me. I went totally out of my body. I floated beside myself on the outside and above the bed looking at this black stranger fuck me angrily while I hated myself.

After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.

50 spirochete  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:49:33am

re: #42 CIA Reject

The MSM will need a pile driver to shove this down the Memory Hole, but rest assured it will be gone by Saturday.

I bought one of the three copies on Abebooks. It will never disappear completely.

51 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:50:14am
52 looking closely  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:50:33am

re: #12 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

O/T but Rush is now talking to a Jewish woman who is wondering why the hell any Jew would vote for The One™ given his past and present associations.

I can answer that in two words. They're MORONS!

I can answer in one word: "Tradition".

53 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:50:46am

re: #43 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Your avatar is racist!

/

My face is racist - when I look in the mirror and don't see the complete rainbow of races I am in racist denial.

54 gopninja  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:50:53am

none of this is working.

55 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:11am

The fact that Ayers is still sucking oxygen is proof (to his like) that the Republic will not adequately defend itself... if he were the opposite kind of dissident in the kind of regime he is trying to push onto the Republic he'd have been a missing person ages ago...

56 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:13am

re: #39 rawmuse

That was my point yesterday. He took the trouble to obtain copyright, so he negated his entire argument by signing on to Capitalism.

It's really no different what the Islamist using western technology and democratic societies to weasel thier way into nations.

It's part of the plan, use capitalism and they will hang themselves, some dude from Russia said that once. Bald, Tellly Savalas I think?

57 Paul  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:14am

re: #30 buzzsawmonkey

In case anyone is wondering why I reference Pete Seeger in #4 above, it is because Seeger, who started by singing for the now-moribund union movement, was the founder of the folk/protest song culture of the late '50s-early '60s.

Protest songs of that era, as much as anything else, were part of the basis on which the student radical movement was built. Protest singers like Seeger, blacklisted from large venues and the recording industry, made their money working the coffeehouse/college hangout circuit. They were as responsible as anyone for the creation of a "counterculture" in the early 1960s.

Seeger was a communist for decades; whether he still is now is a matter for conjecture. Now aged, and with his voice shot, he has lived long enough to see the "children" of the revolution he and his banjo helped start groom and mold a candidate who has a real chance at becoming the President of the United States.

Pete Seeger, the banjo Bolshevik. He never met a communist thug that he didn't love.

58 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:17am

It's curious that they have an academic position listed for Dohrn, but none for Ayers, despite the fact that he's on the faculty of the University of Illinois at Chicago.

59 cheesehead  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:32am

No story here folks. I'm far, far, more concerned about Sara Palin's clothing budget. I mean let's get real. Think of how many soup kitchens that money could've funded.
/sarc...need I...off/

61 x-wing  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:39am

re: #42 CIA Reject

The MSM will need a pile driver to shove this down the Memory Hole, but rest assured it will be gone by Saturday.

They're going to have alot of 'splaining to do if That One&#8482 wins the election.
How long can they keep this stuff from getting out. I hope people soon wakeup

62 Dasher  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:52am

American Thinker has a piece on Prairie Fire - (my hat tip) [Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:52am

re: #53 cartoonboy

My face is racist - when I look in the mirror and don't see the complete rainbow of races I am in racist denial.

lol

64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:51:53am

re: #49 Onslow

Not the Bill Ayers I knew!


Bill Ayers’ apartment was around the corner and a half a block away from the sorority house. The more time I spent there, the more out of place I felt with my sisters. Sometimes I would stop by just to keep from having to go back to a place I had begun to think of as boring. I guess it was one of those evenings -- maybe on the way back from the library, maybe just to get out of the sorority house, I don’t remember exactly. What I do recall is that when I was getting ready to leave Ayers told me I couldn’t go until I slept with his roommate and his brother. At this point Bill and I had slept together just once. I was sexually inexperienced, having had only one serious boyfriend with whom I had recently broken up.

At first I thought Ayers was joking. I got up; and went to the door. He moved quickly to block me at the doorway. He locked the door and put the chain on it. I went to the couch and sat down and told him that I had no intention of having sex with his roommate and his brother or him. He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black -- that I was a bigot. I had gone to school with black kids and had them as friends all my life. I couldn’t believe he was saying that to me

I felt trapped. I had to get out of the situation I was in and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed and put myself on it and he fucked me. I went totally out of my body. I floated beside myself on the outside and above the bed looking at this black stranger fuck me angrily while I hated myself.

After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.

So we can add date rapist to Ayers credentials as well

65 Nevergiveup  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:52:14am

re: #45 realwest

I'm afraid you're fighting a losing battle here. Nothing seems to sway American Jews from voting Democratic
by about a 7-3 margin or so.
And let's not forget that Bobby Kennedy was murdered by this monster Sirhan,Sirhan more than 40 years ago. Hell, most of Obama's recent converts weren't even born then.

I know I know. A family member died ( not that close- long story ) and the Funeral is tomorrow. He was in the Navy in WW2 so I will go in full Dress Uniform with all my Liberal Relatives that do not talk to me anyway there. That should really get a rise outta them! My wife gets a kick when we do stuff like this.

66 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:52:29am

What was once the roadmap for the overthrown of the United States, is now the mainstream platform of the Democrat party!

67 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:52:41am

Copyrighted?
They sure seem to be worried about keeping what's theirs.

Obama: That's not the Idealistic, inspired, pissed-off, and often way-over-the-top, writings of the Weather Underground epitomizing the sexual, psychedelic, violent, anti-war counterculture of the American 1960s and 1970s I know.

68 GOPninja  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:52:44am

someone on here mentioned something coming out soon about a mistress, was that just a rumor or not?

69 jill e  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:52:49am

These people should not be allowed anywhere near children.

70 NoSubmission  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:01am

The publisher:
Seven Stories Press
check out what they do over there..

71 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:07am

re: #45 realwest

I'm afraid you're fighting a losing battle here. Nothing seems to sway American Jews from voting Democratic
by about a 7-3 margin or so.
And let's not forget that Bobby Kennedy was murdered by this monster Sirhan,Sirhan more than 40 years ago. Hell, most of Obama's recent converts weren't even born then.

Most of the Liberal Jews I know (including my brother in heart) are liberals first and only nominally Jews second.

It's not an issue with them. At least in my conversations with them.

72 Onslow  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:13am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What is described is much more than date rape.

73 Tigger2005  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:25am

re: #15 Adrenalyn

well, the October surprise we need is a photo of 0bama reading it
or another review for the local paper

hey, is McCain even talking about Ayers anyway ?

Yes. Don't assume that because the MSM isn't talking about it, McCain isn't. They're not his mouthpiece.

74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:40am

re: #72 Onslow

What is described is much more than date rape.

True.

75 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:49am

re: #55 anotherindyfilmguy

I'm really surprised that none of his victims, or his victims relatives, haven't taken care of the Ayers problem decades ago. It isn't like he's been in hiding all these years.

76 arethusa  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:53:54am

re: #59 cheesehead

No story here folks. I'm far, far, more concerned about Sara Palin's clothing budget. I mean let's get real. Think of how many soup kitchens that money could've funded.
/sarc...need I...off/

Obama pays for one suit $1500 - the same as the average monthly mortgage payment in the US.

77 Silhouette  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:02am

Love the visual. Defiant arms raised by prisoners behind a barbed fence.

Yes, that EXACTLY describes what it is like to live the life of priviledge and freedom that the Weather Underground daily have experienced since their births.

/

78 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:05am

I wonder if this will make the Kennedys think twice about endorsing Obama?

Nah.

79 Beholden  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:10am

You guys are trying to stifle Mr. Ayers critical thought.

Pfffffft!

"Hey, guys, I've got a great idea! Let's set off a bomb at the capitol building and at the pentagon!" -Bill Ayers, master of critical thought

80 yesandno  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:31am

re: #66 WrathofG-d

What was once the roadmap for the overthrown of the United States, is now the mainstream platform of the Democrat party!

Sad, but oh so true..........

81 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:45am

re: #70 NoSubmission

The publisher:
Seven Stories Press
check out what they do over there..

Yes, I posted a few links upthread. The place is a veritable sinkhole of 60's style leftism. Angela Davis, Zinn, Chomsky, they're all there.

82 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:50am

re: #64 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So we can add date rapist to Ayers credentials as well

Except the term date rape didn't exist then, so it didn't really happen.

/bad sarc

83 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:54:57am
84 gmsc  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:55:36am

re: #78 JammieWearingFool

I wonder if this will make the Kennedys think twice about endorsing Obama?

Nah.

You could eliminate the last 5 words of your question, and your post would still be correct.

85 jorline  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:55:37am

re: #70 NoSubmission

What instructors are saying about Seven Stories Press titles:

“Seven Stories publishes books that present the fac­tual reality of power relations in America, remedy the exclusion of African Americans, Latinos, and Native Americans from our history by publishing our visions, and stimulate intellectually for a new world view of equanimity and equality.”

—Jose Manuel Havarro, La Salle University

“I’ve found that books from Seven Stories Press have been vital to me, as a historian and teacher. Authors like Noam Chomsky, Angela Davis, and Pratap Chatterjee provide students with information and interpretations they won’t easily find elsewhere, and novels like The Man with the Golden Arm remain as important today as when they were published. If you want to learn, look at a Seven Stories catalog.”

—Bob Buzzanco, University of Houston, Downtown

“As a professor dedicated to the values of liberal arts education, it is increasingly difficult to find honest publishers, in a mega corporate dominated industry, willing to publish critical, alternative perspectives to the totalizing ideological agenda of the global market economy. . . . I find solace in the integrity of publishers like Seven Stories, who are committed to social justice, alternative voices, and the pursuit of human enlightenment.”

—Mark Seis, Fort Lewis College

The publisher:
Seven Stories Press
check out what they do over there..

Thanks, NoSub....scary crap!

86 Arbalest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:55:54am

Does Caroline Kennedy (advisor to Obama) know that Ayers (boss and advisor of Obama) & Co. dedicated Prairie Fire to Sirhan Sirhan?

Has she ever met Ayres?

87 yesandno  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:56:12am

And don't forget, aside from Health Care, early Childhood Education is one of Barry's goals.......get them at 3 and they will have them for life.

88 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:56:36am
89 godfrey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:56:40am

Obama still has much less experience than McCain and Palin. His proposed policies are stupid and dangerous. His running mate is a daily liability. His friends and colleagues are all on the extreme fringe.

Obama is not the "post-racial" candidate America is looking for. There are many others, even on the left, far more worthy. He got swept up into it faster than even he predicted, and it's all an embarrassing mistake.

McCain will win, lefties the world over will screech their moonbat screeches, and life will go on.

90 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:56:49am

re: #84 gmsc

You could eliminate the last 5 words of your question, and your post would still be correct.

Ha!

91 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:56:50am

re: #71 Walter L. Newton
Yep, I understand completely. I'm not Jewish myself, but have always been an ardent supporter of Israel. Both of my former wives, however, were Jewish and it always amazed me that when we'd have family gatherings (usually 20-30 people or so) that I seemed to be more pro-Israel than any of them (with the SOLE exception being my most recent former wife). When I asked her wth was with her relatives (my in-law relatives) her response was that they were "culturally" not religiously Jewish.
I'm still not sure I understand that.

92 gmsc  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:56:54am

re: #78 JammieWearingFool

I wonder if this will make the Kennedys think twice about endorsing Obama?

Nah.

re: #84 gmsc

You could eliminate the last 5 4 words of your question, and your post would still be correct.

93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:08am

re: #85 jorline

I find solace in the integrity of publishers like Seven Stories, who are committed to social justice, alternative voices, and the pursuit of human enlightenment.”

Communism, agitprop, and degradation.

Scum

94 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:12am

From above...

"He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black -- that I was a bigot."

And so, we are going to get screwed again, by Obama. But if we don't like him, we are a bigot.

Old game, same name, huh.

95 Silhouette  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:19am
Jeff Jones, an environmentalist, fights global warming and other environmental threats that disproportionately harm the lives of the world’s poor.

Weather Underground to weather.

Because rain falls harder on the poor, apparently. And the poor tend to live in beach houses more often. Well, scratch that, but somehow, global warming affects the poor more, because he said so.

(I'll be the cure he is suggesting for that is (drum roll) MORE SOCIALISM!)

96 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:29am

re: #49 Onslow

If that article is credible it's both kidnapping and rape charges that Ayers may, depending on felony nth degree and statute of limitations (if applicable)...

97 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:38am

re: #46 Iron Fist

Kind of like a man selling his soul buying life insurance, isn't it?

It is the very definition of hypocrisy. Communists do NOT believe in any thing resembling personal or intellectual property rights. Everything is free, everything belongs to the State, including your own person, which may be used or disposed of as the Party sees fit.

98 looking closely  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:40am
99 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:57:48am

re: #60 arethusa

OT but good news: Murtha's lead in the polls over Russell is within the MOE.

Maybe Murtha could insult the Metro-sexuals next. That might be enough to put Russel over the top.

100 vagabond trader  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:58:40am

Forget my foolish brthren, how about that KENNEDY connection. Let's keep it simple. Ayers, a friend of the Obama, dedicates communistic manifesto to Murderer of RFK, said KENNEDY clan support the Obama run for POTUS. Can you say three degrees of seperation?

101 JabbaTheTutt  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:58:46am

Hmmm, Bill Ayers, favorite terrorist of the fashionable elite, dedicated his book to the assassin of a Democrat Party Presidential candidate. I wonder what Democrat Party Presidential candidate would say to his pal Bill Ayers about that dedication. "Hey, cool man. That's edgy. That's breaking the rules."

I wonder what Michelle Obama would tell her pal Bill the Terrorist about that dedication, since she's already on record saying that any Black man in America could get murdered just going to the gas station. God forbid, Barack Obama gets murdered, what would Michelle say to her old, longtime friends, Bill and Bernardine? And would Bill Ayers dedicate his next book to Obama's assassin?

Wheels within wheels, hypocrisy beyond belief and ignorance of the most vicious kind = today's Democrat Party. Thank you Democrats.

102 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:58:49am

re: #54 gopninja

none of this is working.

People don't care. Not one bit.

When I bring this stuff up with the many Obama supporters that I know, they just shrug. It means nothing to them.

They simply don't care. Obama makes them feel good. He's like Oprah on steroids.

103 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:58:51am

re: #52 looking closely

Jews vote for Democrats en mass because the Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, and other America created "strands" of "Judiasm were built on the tenants of the Democrat party more than on Judaism. The aforementioned "strands" are the predominant groups of Jews in America.

They interpret the Torah to read like a Liberal/Democrat playbook.

104 Scion9  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:58:58am

re: #20 Nevergiveup

Sirhan Sirhan?
One of these days, and hopefully before it is to late, my fellow Jews will realize how antisemitic the "New" Left which has hijacked the Democratic Party is. Shirhan Sirhan. For those who forget, Sirhan Sirhan shot RFK because of his support of Israel and Jews. Hey Liberal Jews, that is Sirhan Sirhan.

Sirhan, like Oswald, was also likely a communist (or more accurately a Pan-Arabist Socialist). A slightly rosier shade of red, but still red.

105 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:59:25am

BTW Folks - not to beat a dead horse here, but if all y'all haven't Shared This on the prior thread's story, PLEASE DO SO.
I'm not sure McCain will even try to get the message around, but by using the Share This feature Charles has so graciously given us, WE CAN HELP SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT THE 401-K take over proposals by the most influential Dems now.
Who knows, maybe enough folks will see this and then see the light of socialism and how it WILL affect them!

106 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:59:47am

re: #80 yesandno

Thus, I'm just going to say it.

The present policies of the Democrat party, are nothing more than Communism, and ANTI-AMERICAN!

107 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:59:54am

re: #66 WrathofG-d

What was once the roadmap for the overthrown of the United States, is now the mainstream platform of the Democrat party!

The "long march" is now in the home stretch.

108 looking closely  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 10:59:57am

re: #102 Ringo the Gringo

People don't care. Not one bit.

When I bring this stuff up with the many Obama supporters that I know, they just shrug. It means nothing to them.

They simply don't care. Obama makes them feel good. He's like Oprah on steroids.

You can't reach everyone.
Plenty of people voted to re-elect Carter, too.
Don't give up.

109 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:00am
110 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:07am

re: #1 phoenixgirl

how old was obama then?

Physically or emotionally?

111 Silhouette  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:16am

re: #98 looking closely

Or roughly the same as one of John Edwards' haircuts.

But Edwards really gets his money's worth. He have veeery nice hair.

112 ugetwhatuputout  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:23am

I think it's the Sirhan Sirhan dedication that blows me away most. Makes you wonder how the more traditional, even moderate libs really feel about Obama's obvious relationship with Ayers when he celebrates the assassin of one of their most beloved.

113 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:47am

re: #50 spirochete

I bought one of the three copies on Abebooks. It will never disappear completely.

The book itself will survive, but the MSM will do it's darndest to make sure nobody knows about it, of that I'm certain.

OTOH I am equally certain that there will be a veritable avalanche of stories like this in the days leading up to election day as the left suffers a kind of political "premature ejaculation" over the "inevitable" election of BO.

THAT will cost him dearly, IMHO.

114 Venezuela lover  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:51am

Ayers hated the United States. It was not simply opposing the Vietnam war. Ayers continues his hate today even though the war ended decades ago.

The question is why is Obama attracted to and aiding and abetting so many people who hate the United States. This includes Ayers, Dorn, Wright, Farrakhan, Khalid Al-Mansour, and a few communists and socialist. Even his wife Michelle said she was not proud of her country.

115 calvin coolidge  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:00:52am

Bill Ayers is not a freedom fighter. He is not a revolutionary. He is not fighting for justice. He is just a nut.......a nut who is very, very lucky that he didn't pull this shit in any other country other than America, the most forgiving country on the planet.

116 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:01:15am

Bill Ayers did not get enough spankings when he was young. He played with matches and started a prairie fire that is about to engulf this country. Punish him and his warped ideas. Vote for McCain.

117 BackwardsBoy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:01:15am

"...and defend against enemies, both foreign and domestic..."

It's about time someone started doing some defending. DOJ?

118 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:01:42am

"But I was only 45 when he republished his book."

119 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:01:44am

re: #108 looking closely

You can't reach everyone.
Plenty of people voted to re-elect Carter, too.
Don't give up.

I'll still vote, but I have no HOPE! for my state of California going red.

120 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:01:54am

I don't know why it took so long for me to figure this out... but you can't spells betrayers without Ayers.

121 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:02:09am

re: #91 realwest

Yep, I understand completely. I'm not Jewish myself, but have always been an ardent supporter of Israel. Both of my former wives, however, were Jewish and it always amazed me that when we'd have family gatherings (usually 20-30 people or so) that I seemed to be more pro-Israel than any of them (with the SOLE exception being my most recent former wife). When I asked her wth was with her relatives (my in-law relatives) her response was that they were "culturally" not religiously Jewish.
I'm still not sure I understand that.

I understand. The person I mentioned as my "brother," is my best everything. Friend, brother, mentor in the theatre business, my everything.

He agrees...

Obama's people are using "racist" like the Germans used "dirty jew." He doesn't like hearing Obama use the term "speading the wealth." He agress that people are being shut down and shut up by the left. He has directed TWO of my shows that deal with jewish issues and the Holocust. He has been to Europe with me, saw where and what happened.

He is still voting for Obama. He says we need change, and mabye socialism won't be so bad.

That's what is happening out there.

122 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:02:23am
123 loveguru  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:02:27am

wondering who is on poster cover ? and what are they doing with toilet cleaning brushes in hand....

124 PrinceofGotham  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:03:01am

re: #49 Onslow

Ayers should be ineligible to work in any School of Education and Dohrn should be ineligible to work in a Law School. The State licensing boards should refuse to register graduates of these schools while these two are employed.

125 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:03:16am

Social Justice = kill you and take your stuff

126 rb4269  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:03:18am

re: #85 jorline

These people are almost certainly from colleges of education, like Ayres. Nobody - NOBODY - believes that the people in colleges of education deserve any academic respect. Hell, even Womens Studies programs are more academically and intellectually rigorous than schools of education.

127 yma o hyd  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:03:24am

re: #62 Dasher

American Thinker has a piece on Prairie Fire - (my hat tip) [Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

Good one, well done!

And I'm sure we all love these first words from that link:

"The invaluable Zombietime blog ...."

128 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:04:38am

re: #120 MrSilverDragon

I don't know why it took so long for me to figure this out... but you can't spell betrayers without Ayers.

Me are smrt.

129 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:07:00am

re: #107 Ringo the Gringo

The "long march" is now in the home stretch.

So sad but true. I would have once told you that my statement is that of a mad man, but after doing some research on the subject, including Zombie's report, the statement, although extreme, is frightenly true.

You only have to read the Communist manifestos, other anti-U.S. writings of the 1960s Communists, and more recently listen to Rage Against The Machine to see that what was once the battle cry for the dismantling of the United States is now the central tenants of the Democrat party.

We have a guy who openly stated that he wants to "spread the wealth around", "take it from the Rich", and give so-called Universal everything to the "poor", and the Country is accepting it. Then you have to look at the way that Patriotism is treated in America today. Being proud to be "Palestinian", Iraqi, Cuban, Venezuelan, Lebanese, or Pakistani is encouraged but to say you love the United States is belittled. The media suggests that we not wear anything that would identify us as American when traveling abroad, and finds any flag waving at home to be "jingoistic". Getting to this point (where people are prouder of hating their country than loving it) is just one of the many steps of destroying the U.S. and international Communism.

In this context, we should not forget what Obama openly said about patriotism and flag waving.

130 livefreeor die  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:07:21am

re: #49 Onslow

Not the Bill Ayers I knew!


Bill Ayers’ apartment was around the corner and a half a block away from the sorority house. The more time I spent there, the more out of place I felt with my sisters. Sometimes I would stop by just to keep from having to go back to a place I had begun to think of as boring. I guess it was one of those evenings -- maybe on the way back from the library, maybe just to get out of the sorority house, I don’t remember exactly. What I do recall is that when I was getting ready to leave Ayers told me I couldn’t go until I slept with his roommate and his brother. At this point Bill and I had slept together just once. I was sexually inexperienced, having had only one serious boyfriend with whom I had recently broken up.

At first I thought Ayers was joking. I got up; and went to the door. He moved quickly to block me at the doorway. He locked the door and put the chain on it. I went to the couch and sat down and told him that I had no intention of having sex with his roommate and his brother or him. He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black -- that I was a bigot. I had gone to school with black kids and had them as friends all my life. I couldn’t believe he was saying that to me

I felt trapped. I had to get out of the situation I was in and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed and put myself on it and he fucked me. I went totally out of my body. I floated beside myself on the outside and above the bed looking at this black stranger fuck me angrily while I hated myself.

After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.

The fact that this guy is allowed anywhere near college students and his complete depravity...I'm speechless. I can't even put fully into words what I think about him. He is lower than low. A complete and utter sociopath. And by the way, you can't cure sociopaths.

131 Paul  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:07:55am
...Bernardine Dohrn, Bill Ayers, and Jeff Jones---all of whom are all still actively engaged in social justice movement work.

When ever I read the words "social justice" or "economic justice" I fear for my 401(k), my family, my safety, my freedom and my country.

132 jcm  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:08:23am

re: #114 Venezuela lover

Ayers hated the United States. It was not simply opposing the Vietnam war. Ayers continues his hate today even though the war ended decades ago.

The question is why is Obama attracted to and aiding and abetting so many people who hate the United States. This includes Ayers, Dorn, Wright, Farrakhan, Khalid Al-Mansour, and a few communists and socialist. Even his wife Michelle said she was not proud of her country.

Obama is a Marxist, he was trained his whole life as a Marxist, he sought out fellow travelers.

133 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:08:49am

re: #121 Walter L. Newton
"He is still voting for Obama. He says we need change, and mabye socialism won't be so bad."
Sigh.
I'm sorry Walter, I really am to read that "my best everything. Friend, brother, mentor in the theatre business, my everything." feels that way. And I still don't understand it at all.
BTW, do you know what my most recent former wife meant when she said culturally Jewish not religiously Jewish? I'm sorry for being so ignorant (she couldn't really explain it to me either and she's very bright - although also voting for Obama because he's a Democrat).

134 notutopia  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:08:50am

re: #66 WrathofG-d

That is effective infiltration.

135 Silhouette  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:09:50am

re: #122 buzzsawmonkey

Ayers is Charles Manson with privilege, money, connections, and a more educated line of claptrap. Nothing more; nothing less.

There really isn't a hair's worth of difference between them.

They both killed innocent people hoping to jump start a "revolution" that was nothing less than the take down of the United States of America.

Manson is in prison and has become the archetype for madman and villain. Ayers is just a harmless ex-Vietnam war protester and distinguished professor, who barely knows Barry.

136 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:10:49am

Try as we might, most Democrats have long ago boarded Obama's Magical Manchurian Bus, strapped their seatbelts, and set their brains autopilot. Obama, genius that he is, never got on the bus as he knows it has no brakes.

137 capefear  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:11:45am

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

This is something a lot of us dismiss, because we simply can't believe it. A lot of people do understand.

My daughter has been trying to convince some women of Barack's ties to Bill Ayer's and recently one of them told her " don't you get it, we don't care!". In other words getting people to believe it isn't the problem, getting them to care is.

138 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:13:54am

re: #137 capefear
" In other words getting people to believe it isn't the problem, getting them to care is."
Good Lord. There is no way to get them to care. None.

139 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:14:16am

re: #129 WrathofG-d

It was the near complete take over of American education that has finally allowed the Left to acomplish their long term goal of re-defining our country.

If we want to save the US we have to take back our schools.

I hope it's not too late.

140 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:14:36am

I meant:
set their brains to autopilot

141 Boolz  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:15:18am

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

have you reminded him the Nazis were national SOCIALISTS? Ask him which he considers worse about the Nazis: that they "redistributed" the wealth of the "rich" (jews), then imprisoned the "rich" (jews) and then mass murdered the "rich" (jews), OR that the above is OK, as long as it's not done to ethnic minorities.

142 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:15:29am

re: #139 Ringo the Gringo
Hey Ringo - check out comment #137. It is, I fear, way too late.

143 Silhouette  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:16:16am

re: #131 Paul

You're right to do so. Everytime they say 'justice' they mean equality of results.

It is as if they are in charge of a track meet and don't care about fair starting positions, but only care that everyone crosses the finish line at exactly the same time. If everyone doesn't, the faster runners must be hobbled more and more, until all results are equal. Equal with the worst of us.

Meanwhile, the slowest realize, as little as they have tried, they don't even need to do that, because they will "win" no matter what. So the worst gets worse.

Hell of a way to run a railroad, if you ask me. And history has shown misery, poverty, death, and slavery wherever it is tried.

But we must have social "justice."

144 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:16:16am

Let's not forget that all we are doing here is talk, and that after the election, Ayers and his ilk will still be teaching our children. There should be something we can do about this.

The reason so many kids these days in America have the opinion they do of their Country is because they were taught by Ayers, Dohrn and others just like them. Even worse than the Democrat party offering Socialism to the masses is that when you ask the future of America how they think about it...they tell you that its a great idea. They are all for it.

with the type of teaching they got in College this is not surprising. Welcome to America's future.

145 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:16:36am

re: #133 realwest

"He is still voting for Obama. He says we need change, and mabye socialism won't be so bad."
Sigh.
I'm sorry Walter, I really am to read that "my best everything. Friend, brother, mentor in the theatre business, my everything." feels that way. And I still don't understand it at all.
BTW, do you know what my most recent former wife meant when she said culturally Jewish not religiously Jewish? I'm sorry for being so ignorant (she couldn't really explain it to me either and she's very bright - although also voting for Obama because he's a Democrat).

Well, I have a good number of Jewish friends who call themselves "not religiously Jewish" and the best way I can class that is "g-d doesn't mean anything to them in their life."

G-d is not the connecting force in the lifeblood of their culture. They feel they can be a Jew anywhere, the Holy Land is just a place, nice to have, but not worth dying over.

I'm not Jewish, although I am frequently thought as one, since a lot of my plays deals with Jewish themes. Even Joanne Greenberg (author of I Never Promised You A Rose Garden) asked me if I was Jewish after she read my first adaptation of one of her books. From there, it has been a wonderful journey into her books and her culture. My third adaptation of one of her books premires this Nov. 12th.

I degress...

That's my opinion. You know, like a Sunday Christian. Ah, like a Methodist (ha). Social program ok, spiritual stuff not important.

146 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:16:48am

re: #142 realwest

Hey Ringo - check out comment #137. It is, I fear, way too late.

Check my #102.

147 realwest  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:17:25am

Well y'all it's been interesting - somewhat depressing, to put it mildly, but interesting as always.
But I gotta go eat and finish my chores for today.
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

148 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:19:54am

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

I understand. The person I mentioned as my "brother," is my best everything. Friend, brother, mentor in the theatre business, my everything.

He agrees...

Obama's people are using "racist" like the Germans used "dirty jew." He doesn't like hearing Obama use the term "speading the wealth." He agress that people are being shut down and shut up by the left. He has directed TWO of my shows that deal with jewish issues and the Holocust. He has been to Europe with me, saw where and what happened.

He is still voting for Obama. He says we need change, and mabye socialism won't be so bad.

That's what is happening out there.

Yup - same in my jewish family - my sister refuses to read anything negative about Obama. She says she just wants a Democrat in the White House - any Democrat.

149 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:19:58am

The messiah is the biggest and most powerfull bomb Ayers ever built.

And it's that close to destroying this beautiful country and its ideals, we don't need Al-Quaida when we already have the messiah.

The test Biden talks about it's about throwing Israel to the Wolves, and we as citizens will have to agree with the messiah's decision not to intervene and defend Israel.

150 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:21:08am
151 godfrey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:22:12am

Makes me retch, that's for sure.

152 notutopia  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:22:29am

re: #105 realwest

Agree Realwest. When you reach into a persons retirement pocket you get their attention. It's effectively more "personal" than them reading stories about Ayers and admitting there is a link to somehow themselves, that would entail self admission of passive participation and naivete in his tactical scheme to allow the overtaking of our school system with socialist ideology!
At this most crucial point of making an impact that will affect this election outcome, I think FINANCES is the thing to focus on. It will take a while to reveal the underpinnings of the Ayers issues. I think we need to prioritize our tactics in these last two weeks of this election and drive home the wealth redistribution and related themes hard!
We'll have time later to deal with the Educational System if we can just WIN this election!

153 Silhouette  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:22:37am

Maybe not all hope is lost for SOME of the Obamatrons.

Those that say they don't care about connections with Ayers may think of Ayers as just the 'harmless ex-Vietnam War protester" or reformed ex-con. And THAT is what they don't care about.

The connection to Obama is established. I think we need to focus now on letting people know about the rape, the murder, the attempted murders, the dedication to the murderer of Kennedy, and mostly the open and clear plans to make war againt the US of A.

Many still won't care, but some are not that far gone. They are just convincing themselves Ayers is your "typical" ol' '60s radical. He's not.

Try showing them Dohrn's statement about the Manson murders. Few today are so far gone in America hatred to cheer for Manson, I think.

154 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:23:12am

re: #139 Ringo the Gringo

It is never too late, but what you say is 100% correct. I only feer that the brainwashing is so complete that if one were to try to teach something other than Socialist dogma they will be labeled and seen as a "racist" and "imperialist". This can be seen on most campuses already.

Just try to open a White Students Union on campus. (there is a Black Students Union, a Asian Students Union, a Jewish Students Union, a East Indian Students Union, etc.) I should add however that much of this Anti-White sentiment (although concocted by Socialism) is fueled by White racism, and hatred.

155 sawblade88  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:25:32am

I wonder if the new printing has any changes from the original. If there are, it would be interesting to examine them.

156 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:25:55am

re: #153 Silhouette

The connection to Obama is established. I think we need to focus now on letting people know about the rape, the murder, the attempted murders, the dedication to the murderer of Kennedy, and mostly the open and clear plans to make war againt the US of A. ...

Why should they care. These same people have no problem with the muder of unborn children. Sex, every which way but loose is the norm, a little rape is not the end of the world to them. And all that happened so long ago.

A good number of the Obama voters don't even understand that era. And it's not Obama doing it, just some of the boys in his "hood." Not a big deal.

157 zato  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:28:02am

Back in Feb/March, while falling in the primary polls after his racist pastor Wright was introduced nationally, Barry gave the (now failed) speech on race which the lefty media hailed as Lincolnesque.
I guess, now with Ayers getting coverage, it might soon be time for Barry to give a speech on terrorism and anti-American activities. And this time he can avoid selling out relatives and just refer to his friend as a "typical Anti-American terrorrist."

158 godfrey  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:29:53am

Obama's connections are only useful for sowing doubt. They're not sticky. Sticky issues are economic and geopolitical. Here's the deal:

1. Obama will prevent us from getting us out of economic trouble.
2. Obama is too inexperienced to deal with the big bad world.

Period.

But even these negatives aren't enough. To close the deal, you have to make the positive case for McCain. Basics:

1. McCain and the GOP know how to create wealth.
2. McCain has been around the block.

Plus, he isn't Bush, and he's got an experienced reformer in Palin.

159 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:30:29am

Even if Biden announced today that Obama is a dangerous marxist/racist/anti-American, Democrats wouldn't waver in their support for Obama.

160 yenta-fada  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:32:56am

re: #69 jill e

I have a friend whose niece is married to Ayer's kid. They are always talking about how "nice" they are. Proof that monsters look just like EVERYBODY ELSE.

161 Reluctant Democrat  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:35:09am

I wonder what all those Obama-supporting Kennedys think about the dedication to Sirhan Sirhan. This is not the Obama they knew!

162 Boolz  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:35:20am

re: #144 WrathofG-d

Let's not forget that all we are doing here is talk, and that after the election, Ayers and his ilk will still be teaching our children. There should be something we can do about this.

The reason so many kids these days in America have the opinion they do of their Country is because they were taught by Ayers, Dohrn and others just like them. Even worse than the Democrat party offering Socialism to the masses is that when you ask the future of America how they think about it...they tell you that its a great idea. They are all for it.

with the type of teaching they got in College this is not surprising. Welcome to America's future.

there should be something we can do about this...home school or even start charter schools (tell the Feds you're Muslim...you'll get a grant)

163 cartoonboy  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:37:28am

Obama-love is blind.
Our only hope is the apathetic undecided voters.

164 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:41:37am

He writes as if the US is ruled by a racist white minority holding down the black majority.

He's exploiting blacks for his own gain.

165 Joan Not of Arc  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:43:36am

I don't know. I would find this thoroughly absorbent- as toilet paper!

166 ladycatnip  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:44:52am

Hannity has been flogging the Ayers connection for some time - I wonder if he has this information? It's imperative that this get out to the public. Anyone dedicating a book to a Kennedy assassin has to be held accountable. Has he dedicated anything to Martin Luther King's assassin? Or Lee Harvey Oswald?

Ayers is poison to our culture, and we let him teach our kids.

167 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:46:05am

Video: Ayers' Weathermen Planned "Re-Education Camps"

Interview with Larry Grathwohl who became a member of the Weather Underground organization as an undercover operative for law enforcement agencies in Cincinnati.

168 WrathofG-d  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:47:44am

re: #167 Ben Hur

In an effort to hide it in plain sight, they named it the UC system.

169 xtraBilly  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 11:50:26am

"Sing A Battle Song" is for sale on Amazon. It even qualifies for free shipping. I looked inside and it's been updated with some contremporay
observations on 9/11, the SheHag, Iraq.

Pretty hateful stuff.

170 abolitionist  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:01:32pm

re: #125 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Social Justice = kill you and take your stuff

(paraphrasing)

The root of war is organized theft. This is where wars began, here in the Fertile Crescent, ancient Babylon and moden day Iraq.

I'm standing near Baghdad, where civilization began to put down roots, embracing agriculture and domesticated animals. Many of the earliest wars were the raiding parties by others of an older nomadic culture, who wanted free stuff. - Jacob Bronowski, The Ascent of Man

Socialism is a very old idea, even without the complications of raiding parties. This old vs new conflict is at the heart of islam. Mo raided caravans and sacked villages and cities. His followers conquered whole civilizations. Kufr (a vile epithet) literally means farmer - one who covers - as in covering seed with soil.

171 IgofAntioch  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:02:13pm

Why don't the Democrats just call their party what it is- the National Socialist Party and be done with it. Their primary process was anything but democratic with the "super delegates" and ACORN fraud renders all our votes practically non-existent.

172 debutaunt  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:02:41pm

re: #102 Ringo the Gringo

People don't care. Not one bit.

When I bring this stuff up with the many Obama supporters that I know, they just shrug. It means nothing to them.

They simply don't care. Obama makes them feel good. He's like Oprah on steroids.

Obama is the anorexic version of Oprah.

173 mattm  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:12:12pm

I guess he was with Rev. Wright, not listening to his sermons, when Ayers published it.

174 HBob  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:13:08pm

Seven Stories, the publisher, also publishes Obamanomics by John R. Talbott.

Hmmm...

175 sandspur  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:25:28pm

re: #72 Onslow

What is described is much more than date rape.

kidnapping for one thing

176 HBob  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:38:10pm

re: #49 Onslow

Not the Bill Ayers I knew!


Bill Ayers’ apartment was around the corner and a half a block away from the sorority house. The more time I spent there, the more out of place I felt with my sisters. Sometimes I would stop by just to keep from having to go back to a place I had begun to think of as boring. I guess it was one of those evenings -- maybe on the way back from the library, maybe just to get out of the sorority house, I don’t remember exactly. What I do recall is that when I was getting ready to leave Ayers told me I couldn’t go until I slept with his roommate and his brother. At this point Bill and I had slept together just once. I was sexually inexperienced, having had only one serious boyfriend with whom I had recently broken up.

At first I thought Ayers was joking. I got up; and went to the door. He moved quickly to block me at the doorway. He locked the door and put the chain on it. I went to the couch and sat down and told him that I had no intention of having sex with his roommate and his brother or him. He said that I had no choice but to do as he said if I wanted to get out of there. He claimed that I wouldn’t sleep with his married roommate because he was black -- that I was a bigot. I had gone to school with black kids and had them as friends all my life. I couldn’t believe he was saying that to me

I felt trapped. I had to get out of the situation I was in and because he was so effective a guilt-tripper, I also felt I had to prove to him that I wasn’t a bigot. I got up from the couch and walked over to the black roommate’s bed and put myself on it and he fucked me. I went totally out of my body. I floated beside myself on the outside and above the bed looking at this black stranger fuck me angrily while I hated myself.

After that I had to go lie down on Bill Ayer’s bed for his brother to screw me. Rick Ayers was a decent person, unlike his brother, and couldn’t go through with it He started and stopped and let me go. I also thought I had to let Bill screw me but at that point he unbolted the door and I left.

Thanks for that disturbing glimpse into the BS that was the hippie era. I feel like I need to take a bath now. God in heaven help us...

177 Occam's Beard  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:41:48pm

"Sing a Battle Song?" OK. I got your battle right here.

178 Marlin925  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 12:54:48pm

re: #115 calvin coolidge

Bill Ayers is not a freedom fighter. He is not a revolutionary. He is not fighting for justice. He is just a nut.......a nut who is very, very lucky that he didn't pull this shit in any other country other than America, the most forgiving country on the planet.

He's also a Mastercard Marxist child of privilege who lives in pants $hitting fear of the working class, caucasian and "people of color" alike, doing a Bastile Day on his trust fund ferret arse. Divide and conquer is his strategy, hence his lilly white self backing of Marxist "people of color."

Ayers wants us, meaning working class Americans of all ethnic groups, under a commie jackboot because deep down inside, he fears us proles.

179 Millie Woods  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 1:28:03pm

Prissy Chrissy is a drunken full of himself Brit. Trust me I know the type well and I spent my twenties while living in Britland turning the tables on them when they tried to belittle me with their silly all of us colonials and ex-colonials are knuckle dragging neanderthals twaddle. They were shocked I tell you shocked when I didn't respond to the customary putdowns with the cringing they expect from us lesser beings. Prissy Chrissy is trying to protect his wallet and has made a bet that Obama will win which just shows how out of touch he is because should Obama win he will see to it that the Chrissies, snaggle-toothed Daves, K-leens, Piggies and Hammerkrauts will be far worse off than they ever thought possible. If you want a Hichens with intellectual heft, try brother Peter. He knows which end is up and is not a bottle addict.

180 pianogirl  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 3:58:53pm

re: #34 Ringo the Gringo

How can Hitchens be a socialist? He's not black, and weren't we just told in the last day or two that socialist is another code word for black? :~)

181 chicagoray  Thu, Oct 23, 2008 9:48:08pm

Time to run this scum right out of the country and Barry siitting right in the engineers spot of that bus to nowhere that his grandma apparently is still stuck under. The one that he's headed to Hawaii to finally extricate her from underneath while she's supposedly gravely ill. Or is he birth certificate forging over there?.


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