I wish I could say "shame on them" but, they wouldn't know shame if it bit them on their butts.

Sarah Palin would make a fine President.

The Blotto.

Or, one of those little tabs of acid.

Newspapers used to call Lincoln an ape. Looks like we're back in 1860.

Even Charlie Gibson's gone over to the dark side.

And if McCain-Palin wins, it will only get worse.

And if McCain-Palin Obama-Biden wins, it will only get worse.
Fixed.

re: #6 HelloDare

And if when McCain-Palin wins, it will only get worse.

FTFY

re: #4 little boomer

Newspapers used to call Lincoln an ape. Looks like we're back in 1860.

No, McCain is only apish.

Fuck it, let's go bowling.

re: #4 little boomer

Newspapers used to call Lincoln an ape. Looks like we're back in 1860.

An Ape named Abe?

Sounds vaguely familiar.

re: #7 little boomer

And if McCain-Palin Obama-Biden wins, it will only get worse.
Fixed.

re: #8 gmsc

FTFY

Darn it, Boomer! Stop copying my posts and then posting them before I do!

re: #5 twincitiesgirl

Even Charlie Gibson's gone over to the dark side.

Whaddaya mean "gone over"? He's been there all along. That hatchet job he did on his Palin interview should have gotten him fired at any organization with any sense of decency.

re: #9 HelloDare

No, McCain is only apish.

Be careful. He's a Silverback.

If you are an Arizona LIzard that would like to come to a McCain Victory Party on election night, please email. We're actively searching for AZ lizards.

I'd appreciate any nics that are from AZ.

Thanks.

My nic is blue.

could some lizzard look into this and tell me if it's accurate:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

Frickin' pathetic. I'm ardently hoping that they'll win, not just because I think they're the best choice, but also to renew my faith in the ability of the American public to see through this deranged fourth estate charade.

How sad. McCain/Palin would be up by 10 points if the media was anything resembling fair.

re: #13 Spiny Norman

Whaddaya mean "gone over"? He's been there all along. That hatchet job he did on his Palin interview should have gotten him fired at any organization with any sense of decency.

Those are getting fewer and futher betweener.

re: #12 gmsc

Darn it, Boomer! Stop copying my posts and then posting them before I do!

Ah yes, the old Paste and Copy routine.

/Causality? What's that?

I've come to the realization of one reason why the Left hates her - she pays NO deference to "Dear Leader"; in fact, she takes great relish in mocking him. Therefore, she must be destroyed.

That's about the size of it. ABC reads like a gossip rag outside of these "political" blogs. Just take a look at their obsession with celbrities and how "she looks without make up" and other assnine stories.

These blogs are all by Justin Rood who also writes for the liberal internet trash rag, TPM.

A beautiful fairy appeared, one day, to a destitute refugee claimant outside the Immigration Office. "My good man" the fairy said, "I've been told to grant you three wishes since you just arrived in the United States with your wife and three children."

The man told the fairy, "Well, where I come from we don't have good teeth, so I want new teeth, maybe a lot of gold in them." The fairy looked at the man's almost toothless grin and -PING!- he had brand new shining set of gold teeth in his mouth!

"What else?" asked the fairy, "Two more to go." The refugee claimant now got bolder. "I need a big house with a three car garage in, on the water with eight bedrooms for my family. I bring them all over here."

-PING!- In the distance there could be seen a beautiful mansion with a three car garage, a long driveway, a walkout patio with a BBQ pit, pool, in an upscale neighbourhood overlooking the bay.

"One more wish", the fairy said waving her wand. "Yes, one more wish, I want to be like an American with American clothes instead of these torn clothes and a baseball cap instead of this turban. I want white skin like the Americans."

-PING!- The man was transformed, wearing worn out jeans, a Baltimore Orioles T-Shirt, and a baseball cap. He had his bad teeth back, the mansion disappeared from the horizon.

"What happened to my new teeth?" he wailed. "Where's my new house!?" The fairy said, "Tough stuff, Mac. Now you are a white American, if you want something you have to work hard, earn the money and get it yourself!"

By the way, the low IQ division of the right wing is very pissed off about my stance against promoting ugly rumors. So far I've received 5 hate mails, and there are at least three web sites that are full of hateful comments about me. I'm an atheist, a neocon (read: Jew), a RINO, etc. etc.

If Obama wins, these are the kind of people who will be responsible for it.

Now Joe Buck and Tim McCarver are talking about race during the World Series game tonight. It never ends!

re: #4 little boomer

Newspapers used to call Lincoln an ape. Looks like we're back in 1860.

Well, sadly not.
Where are the Republican newspapers?

re: #21 jas

I've come to the realization of one reason why the Left hates her - she pays NO deference to "Dear Leader"; in fact, she takes great relish in mocking him. Therefore, she must be destroyed.

Gotta ding you up for that!

I thought we were ALL in the low IQ division.

/channeling Obama

re: #28 OldLineTexan

I thought we were ALL in the low IQ division.

/channeling Obama

It works about better when you spread the smarts around.

re: #30 van helsing

It works about better when you spread the smarts around.

out - it works out better.

Sheeesh, send some smarts my way.

ABC is not being biased.

They are attacking Palin as much as any of the other MSM outlets orifices.

Interesting article in Wash Post about felons voting in Virginia while MILITARY votes are being repressed. Just sickening.

The money quote: On Thursday, the McCain campaign accused Kaine (D), a co-chairman of Obama's campaign, of restoring voting rights for almost 1,500 felons in an effort to help Obama win Virginia's 13 electoral votes.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #24 Charles

Cleanup on Aisle #508 in previous thread.

re: #17 patrickafir

Frickin' pathetic. I'm ardently hoping that they'll win, not just because I think they're the best choice, but also to renew my faith in the ability of the American public to see through this deranged fourth estate fifth column charade.

Since everyone is fixing things for everyone else.

re: #29 taxfreekiller

If the big "O" hole does loose, will Cheerios be discontinued?

No way would the Kos Kids Kult want to look at their "O" awash in
milk the next morning.

I don't know if you have kids, but if you have boys you use Cheerios to help develop their aim when toilet training them.

re: #4 little boomer

Newspapers used to call Lincoln an ape. Looks like we're back in 1860.

The words "racist" and "racism" did not exist in 1860. Can you imagine an entire political campaign that doesn't use those words?

ABC is worst than the National Enquirer. At least they're comic relief.
ABC is now just speaking parsetongue.

well is'nt obama himself preempting game 6 for 15 minutes, they are just ramping it up for him,, would he have been able to do this to the super bowl? but wait i thought baseball was American as Apple Pie and Chevy re: #25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Now Joe Buck and Tim McCarver are talking about race during the World Series game tonight. It never ends!

re: #37 Alouette

The words "racist" and "racism" did not exist in 1860. Can you imagine an entire political campaign that doesn't use those words?

No, no I can't.

re: #36 little boomer

I don't know if you have kids, but if you have boys you use Cheerios to help develop their aim when toilet training them.

I never knew that! No wonder I had to get the bathrooms regrouted and re-wallpapered after all my 6 sons moved out.

re: #29 taxfreekiller

If the big "O" hole does loose, will Cheerios be discontinued?

No way would the Kos Kids Kult want to look at their "O" awash in
milk the next morning.

Fruitloops, too.

People may be asking what are newspapers at the rate that the media outlets bottom line keeps sinking faster than the stock market.

If the media were truly objective, half of the rss feed would include items like:

An ACORN scandal grows in Brooklyn.

Lax Internet Protocols Open Door To Fraud and Illegality at Obama Campaign Website

Fraudulent voter registrants admit wrongdoing.

Military ballots being tossed in Virginia.

The Forgotten Ayers Manifesto (or why zombie has to do the media's work for them).

re: #25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's why I hit the mute button and watch with the IPOD rockin'.

re: #15 hermeneutics

Find anymore zonies for the President McCain Election Eve party?

re: #43 MandyManners

Fruitloops, too.

Homophobe!

/

I like "Let's Get Ready to Rumble." Didn't click on it, but it sums up my feelings at this point. It's way past time to bring the MSM down. It's time the American people got access to actual news again. They say they want a revolution? Ok by me.

re: #37 Alouette

The words "racist" and "racism" did not exist in 1860. Can you imagine an entire political campaign that doesn't use those words?

It would be like a breath of fresh air.

/wishing

re: #18 beholden

If the media were fair, McCain would be 10 down to Clinton at this point.

re: #16 ballantrae

could some lizard look into this and tell me if it's accurate:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

hard to say what the truth is on that one, but the symptoms sure sound like radiation poisoning to me. and this would be a way to do a big dirty bomb.

Question (cuz I'm a lazy, good for nothing non-Obama supporter):

Has anybody brought up the fact that if we have a democratic super majority in Congress and a democratic president, that they could change the electoral system in this country and abolish the electoral college?

(I think we're going to be headed into a lot of discussions about the EC pretty soon.)

I'm holding my breath for Soros gate

re: #13 Spiny Norman

Whaddaya mean "gone over"? He's been there all along. That hatchet job he did on his Palin interview should have gotten him fired at any organization with any sense of decency.

I started to answer you and my keyboard froze and had to reboot. My understanding of that interview is that Charlie was expressly chosen to interview both McCain and Palin.

In other words, he was facing a lot of pressure from his "colleagues" to prove he could be tough. Well, he far exceeded that and was quite the asshole IMO. That said, I still think he has been one of the most fair/balanced of the 3 major broadcast journalists up to that point. Did he sell out? No question about it.

Gibson has been granted exclusives with McCain and his running-mate, which is unusual favoritism by any measure. There's something about Gibson that McCain advisers appear to like a great deal.
Gibson has a chance to prove them wrong.

Charlie Gibson: McCain's Favorite Network Anchor?

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Joe Biden Has No Memory of Campaign, Gaffes, Probe Told

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Michelle Obama From Potential First Lady to Angry Block Captain

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Obama Proposes Senate Bill Banning Tater Tots

re: #24 Charles

By the way, the low IQ division of the right wing is very pissed off about my stance against promoting ugly rumors. So far I've received 5 hate mails, and there are at least three web sites that are full of hateful comments about me. I'm an atheist, a neocon (read: Jew), a RINO, etc. etc.

If Obama wins, these are the kind of people who will be responsible for it.

At the end of the day, all you really have is your own integrity. I give you credit for discernment. The Left are despised by many of us for fearmongering and outright lying to drive an agenda. That is why conservatives and intelligent people differ from their counterparts on the Left - that is not how we do it...On this situation with the young lady who was purportedly mutilated, you are correct to raise the specter of doubt. It may be real but there are obvious questions. If you are criticized, consider it a badge of honor.

re the downstairs thread..local news here in pittsburgh seemed to downplay the possibility of the mugging story being a fraud just now..they say the police ARE still investigating and that the victim may go public tomorrow...I'd hold our fire for a spell on this...

re: #52 Irene NYC

Question (cuz I'm a lazy, good for nothing non-Obama supporter):

Has anybody brought up the fact that if we have a democratic super majority in Congress and a democratic president, that they could change the electoral system in this country and abolish the electoral college?

(I think we're going to be headed into a lot of discussions about the EC pretty soon.)

I'm fairly certain there's a movement afoot to do away with the EC. Seems like we need it now more than ever.

Media bias should be the mantra for the next two weeks - pointing out to regular Americans how they are being played like suckers by punks who think they're better than regular Americans.

Since Palin isn't a DC Insider or sleezebag attorney, there isn't much dirt in her past so the media plays up what little they can find as if she is the biggest criminal ever. Grow up!

re: #52 Irene NYC

I believe that would require a Constitutional amendment.
I doubt that enough states would pass it.

Nothing about WardrobeGate?

re: #49 jetprop

It would be like a breath of fresh air.

/wishing

Yeah but, the "n" word was considered appropriate for print media. Also "dialect" jokes.

re: #44 lawhawk

Re; Military Ballots being tossed in Va.
This was due to a technicality, the ballots were printed with no provision to apply an address location of the witness attesting to the voter ballot signature. Va Democratic party chair says, "Sorry, but it's the law."
I wonder how those overseas military personnel feel about this?

re: #62 wolfie

I believe that would require a Constitutional amendment.
I doubt that enough states would pass it.

Correct. The Founding Fathers were very wise.

Just another Joe,
1 in 25,000,000

re: #62 wolfie

I believe that would require a Constitutional amendment.
I doubt that enough states would pass it.

Isn't the first step, though, that it has to pass Congress?

re: #24 Charles

By the way, the low IQ division of the right wing is very pissed off about my stance against promoting ugly rumors. So far I've received 5 hate mails, and there are at least three web sites that are full of hateful comments about me. I'm an atheist, a neocon (read: Jew), a RINO, etc. etc.

If Obama wins, these are the kind of people who will be responsible for it.

well nothing wrong with being a atheist, neocon, Jewish or a RINO. WELL I AM A AGNOISTIC, NEOCON, JEWISH & RINO. In this context I believe in G-d but I am not frum. so that would make me a jewish agnoistic.

I believe Rush said today that he's finally starting to think that this election coverage may end up damaging the mainstream media beyond redemption. I'm skeptical. but would certainly welcome that outcome.

re: #24 Charles

By the way, the low IQ division of the right wing is very pissed off about my stance against promoting ugly rumors. So far I've received 5 hate mails, and there are at least three web sites that are full of hateful comments about me. I'm an atheist, a neocon (read: Jew), a RINO, etc. etc.

If Obama wins, these are the kind of people who will be responsible for it.

Please continue to publish your "anti-idiotarian" views regardless of the current political climate.

re: #56 sarabeara

LOL! You saved the very best for last!

re: #29 taxfreekiller

If the big "O" hole does loose, will Cheerios be discontinued?

No way would the Kos Kids Kult want to look at their "O" awash in
milk the next morning.

They'll still have their Fruity Pebbles. ;-)>

If the MSM invested one tenth of the resources in investigating BO that they have poured into digging dirt on Gov. Palin BO would still be sitting in the Senate waiting for his next chance to vote "present".

And another thing-

The next time some nitwit asks me a snarky question about "why do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States should John McCain die?" I'm going to give the only valid answer:

"Because John McCain chose her to be his vice president and I trust the judgment of somebody who was tortured by communists far more than the judgment of somebody who was educated by communists."

re: #69 yochanan

well nothing wrong with being a atheist, neocon, Jewish or a RINO. WELL I AM A AGNOISTIC, NEOCON, JEWISH & RINO. In this context I believe in G-d but I am not frum. so that would make me a jewish agnoistic.

Let's not forget that Charles is also an insomniac agnostic dyslexic!

(He stays up all night wondering if there's a dog.)

re: #73 Outrider

They'll still have their Fruity Pebbles. ;-)>

And their Special K!

re: #7 little boomer

And if McCain-Palin Obama-Biden wins, it will only get worse.
Fixed.

How bad? Here is fictional letter from a conservative Christian circa 2012. Quite frightening really.

re: #65 notutopia

How does this happen election after election? You'd think they'd have their heads out their asses by now. This just aint right, we are turning into Cuba.

re: #62 wolfie

I'm up for a Constitutional Convention though!

Line Item veto,
Define Life,
Clear-up the language on the 2nd Amendment,
Get rid of direct election of Senators,
rewrite the Commerce clause,
and I guess while were at it, given the current crisis, establish minimum Federal standards for Voter Qualification and Identification.

re: #60 Noam Sayin'

Media bias should be the mantra for the next two weeks - pointing out to regular Americans how they are being played like suckers by punks who think they're better than regular Americans.

yes why are charlie, diane, george, katie and all those others better then the rest of us? just because they have jobs that allow them to be seen by the public and to have access to the real celebrities and leaders, if i am not mistaken no matter the educmation they have if the ratings tank they are not on tv and then just like the rest of us,, it is access denied,,

Russia has Pravda, we have USA Today, the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, L.A. Times, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN. All party-controlled media.

Does an objective person on earth in the year 2008 have an actual impartial source of facts they can turn to?*

*LGF isn't supposed to be impartial, but at least it has facts!

re: #62 wolfie

I believe that would require a Constitutional amendment.
I doubt that enough states would pass it.

Sounds right.
If not, and the One wins it's a non-issue, as he won the EC.
If he loses, President McCain would veto it.

re: #56 sarabeara

Genius.

re: #56 sarabeara

RSS Feeds one year from now:
Obama Proposes Senate Bill Banning Tater Tots

That one had me laughing...nicely played!

What is it about an actual human being of the American persuasion that drives the lefties and the media so berserk?

I did not know Palin from Shinola before this election. I am now so impressed that I can think of no one better to lead this country. A Reagan in the making from where I sit. Ronnie did not spend a lot of time at Oxford as I recall.

I will now happily accept my illiterate hick status. Thanks.

By the way, it has been interesting to see the snobs on all sides of the political spectrum expose themselves lately. Threatened by Sarah Palin? Maybe the problem is with you my snooty snoot friends.

Hey CIAreject - I like these! If anyone comes up with more I'd like to post them at my myspace.

JM - tortured by communists
BO - educated by communists.

re: #74 CIA Reject

If the MSM invested one tenth of the resources in investigating BO that they have poured into digging dirt on Gov. Palin BO would still be sitting in the ILL. STATESenate waiting for his next chance to vote "present".

And another thing-

The next time some nitwit asks me a snarky question about "why do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to be President of the United States should John McCain die?" I'm going to give the only valid answer:

"Because John McCain chose her to be his vice president and I trust the judgment of somebody who was tortured by communists far more than the judgment of somebody who was educated by communists."

FIXED THAT FOR YOU

re: #79 de La Valette

I'm up for a Constitutional Convention though!

Line Item veto,
Define Life,
Clear-up the language on the 2nd Amendment,
Get rid of direct election of Senators,
rewrite the Commerce clause,
and I guess while were at it, given the current crisis, establish minimum Federal standards for Voter Qualification and Identification.

..the right OF THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed. seems purty clear to me

re: #66 van helsing

Nothing in there about Gerrymandering though.....the democrats are already masters of that technique. They can re-arrange districts to give themselves an automatic majority in the house. We have a district here in AZ that was designed for a "Hispanic" representative. Some parts of this district (which runs over 130 miles from Tucson up to southern Phoenix) consist of the width of Interstate 10....not many voters in that area. The republicans are rank amateurs when it comes to this "style" of stacking the deck. And, if they ever should try it to any degree, I would guess the dems would squeal like stuck pigs.

Just read the excerpt about the McCain/Palin interview with Brian Williams. I know they want to address the MSM in some form or another but why would McCain ever believe Brian Williams was not going to be in the tank for Obama, which as the interview shows, he was and is. How dare he declare that Wright should be off limits. I am furious. Probably more at McCain for not making the case for why Wright is entirely germane. ugh!

re: #81 Crusty

And that's what makes Charles a target for criticisms and name calling.
They can't stand our presence and don't like being challenged with the FACTS!

re: #68 Irene NYC

Isn't the first step, though, that it has to pass Congress?

Yes, and I can certainly see the Dems trying to do that much.
I think it will take another generation or two of "education" before 3/4 of the states will accept it.

re: #88 joecitizen

I agree, just delete the part before your "..." to make it perfectly clear.

re: #68 Irene NYC

Congress must approve the amendment by 2/3 rds of both houses, then 3/4 ths of the states must ratify what the congress has passed.

re: #74 CIA Reject

If the MSM invested one tenth of the resources in investigating BO that they have poured into digging dirt on Gov. Palin BO would still be sitting in the Senate waiting for his next chance to vote "present".

Investigate Obama? But then where would they get the resources they're going to need to investigate every aspect of Ashley Todd's (the woman attacked for being a McCain supporter) life over the next week? I mean, we just have to find out whether she ever repaid the 4-H club dues she forgot to pay in September of 1992.

if the msm had just done a few investigative reports on the O he would have been bounced long ago.
instead they covered for him, ran interference for him, and ignored all the really damning things abt. this anti-american socialist.
they have failed totally to bring us the news. they didn't do their jobs.
they should all be fired.

Maybe the public is not as dumb as they think:

By Nearly 8-to-1, Voters Say Journalists Want Obama to Win

Does the A in ABC now stand for Al Jazeera?

Time for a public strategy session.

A lot of bloggers and independent citizen journalists are doing their best to generate public awareness of Obama's many "negatives." And although many scandal-worthy facts have been uncovered, it is still unknown to what extent this information is reaching "the undecideds" or the general public at large.

Certainly, anybody out there who has Web access and even a halfway open mind is able to see and absorb all the damning info about Obama. But I get the feeling that the vast majority of "undecideds" are pretty non-Web-savvy and/or are pretty (let's be frank here) uninformed about rudimentary historical and cultural facts -- so that scandals which should affect them deeply instead bounce off their heads like a tennis ball off a brick wall.

How to reach these people in a way that will affect them?

A major, huge, almost impenetrable stumbling block (I'm willing to admit) is the 100% pro-Obama bias of the media. They simply will not give anything traction unless they are absolutely forced to. Pathetic, trivial and downright false claims and pseudo-scandals dreamt up by left-wing blogs get immediate front-page coverage nationwide; but even substantial investigations (and I'm not talking about myself here -- I've seen a lot of great work out there) from our side are greeted with total silence for the most part. Which means the information we generate, no matter how good or juicy, never even reaches the people it needs to reach. Which is exactly what the media wants.

The polls, to the extent thay can be trusted, are either showing an Obama lead or a very close race. We can't take the chance that they are even vaguely accurate. We have to accelerate to the finish line -- not coast.

Yes, the blogosphere has grown in power substantially; and our side of the blogosphere has grown substantially; and the mainstream media has fallen in influence and power. But for the moment, they do still barely have the upper hand: if the major TV networks refuse to cover a story, then a substantial portion of Americans will simply never hear of it.

There are other ways that information gets out: email lists and mass-mailings are one, and from which I have benefitted greatly these last months; many of my essays have been emailed like spam from here to Timbuktu from list to list. And "niche media" -- i.e. media with a self-identified slant -- is another.

But I worry that even these do not reach the remaining undecideds. Because if you're undecided at this point, you have to be nearly brain-dead and extremely media unaware. I think the ONLY way to reach the remaining people who could decide this election is by getting something, somehow onto their network TV screens.

But since the networks are absolutely in the tank for Obama, and totally uncooperative, how can this be achieved?

Barring any brilliant ideas or unexpected revelations, all we can do is keep plugging along, and doing what we've been doing. But in this comment what I'm looking for are exactly that: brilliant ideas and unexpected revelations.

So I ask the open question: In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?

I want either specific "story ideas" that seem promising; or unorthodox media strategies. Or something wild.

I have a few notions of my own, but I'm looking for input. Let the ideas flow!

(And I reserve the right to repost this on an open thread later tonight, if needed.)

re: #63 MandyManners

Nothing about WardrobeGate?

I saw that yesterday and didn't even bother to read it. Just shows how desperate the msm are to find a scandal regarding Palin. Many of the women reporters don't like her cause she's intelligent and gorgeous. I say eat your liver msm.

re: #89 Desert Dog

In NC there are whole counties that have been named after famous idols of
gerrymandering!

No bias. Just a blatant attempt to hide the fire by sitting on it.

re: #86 Teacake!

Glad to make a contribution!

By the way, did anyone see this? - hilarious if not frighteningly true.

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Great quote:

re: #74 CIA Reject

"Because John McCain chose her to be his vice president and I trust the judgment of somebody who was tortured by communists far more than the judgment of somebody who was educated by communists."

Interesting nic too. Knew another such in the late 70s who said he worked at Langley. Caught heck when they put him in charge of display cases, and he staged a display of invisible writing--all manner of little folded cards describing the contents of the display, but nothing else in the cases!

Some leftist idiot on O'Reily's show said that the Daily Kos is a "Market place of ideas".

re: #95 gmsc

Investigate Obama? But then where would they get the resources they're going to need to investigate every aspect of Ashley Todd's (the woman attacked for being a McCain supporter) life over the next week? I mean, we just have to find out whether she ever repaid the 4-H club dues she forgot to pay in September of 1992.

Or return an overdue library book...

re: #89 Desert Dog

In that you are correct. Much like most of us here, it probably never occurred to them that anyone would go to such lengths to game the system to gain power.

I'm in AZ, too. I saw that district map.

What I just really don't understand is what is so appealing about having radical left views, from young people, media, old hippies who should know better by now.

Is it at all possible that a majority of people really believe that if they don't support this guy that they might be racist? I heard a Jewish lady on Rush today say that all her Jewish friends were voting for him because if they didn't they would be racist! So much for the old gossip about Jews being intelligent.

C-BS, P-BS, N-BSC, A-BSC
NY-BS TIMES

re: #77 A Kiwi Infidel

The Scouts will never disband, nor accept any impositions.

re: #89 Desert Dog

Nothing in there about Gerrymandering though.....the democrats are already masters of that technique. They can re-arrange districts to give themselves an automatic majority in the house. We have a district here in AZ that was designed for a "Hispanic" representative. Some parts of this district (which runs over 130 miles from Tucson up to southern Phoenix) consist of the width of Interstate 10....not many voters in that area. The republicans are rank amateurs when it comes to this "style" of stacking the deck. And, if they ever should try it to any degree, I would guess the dems would squeal like stuck pigs.

Texas did and were challenged all the way to the Supreme Court. Redistricting will not change, ever.

re: #1 MandyManners

I wish I could say "shame on them" but, they wouldn't know shame if it bit them on their butts.

They really are shameless.

re: #111 Ojoe

The Scouts will never disband, nor accept any impositions.

WOLVERINES

re: #108 Van Helsing

You should contact hermeneutics:

re: #15 hermeneutics

If you are an Arizona LIzard that would like to come to a McCain Victory Party on election night, please email. We're actively searching for AZ lizards.

I'd appreciate any nics that are from AZ.

Thanks.

My nic is blue.

re: #59 jetprop

I'm fairly certain there's a movement afoot to do away with the EC. Seems like we need it now more than ever.

Yeah, but this pops up every election year. If the EC were trashed, the major urban centers would elect the President and the rest of us would be disenfranchised from the presidential vote. Pretty clear the reason only one party wants it done away with.

re: #99 zombie

How about a "What the New York Times Won't Tell You" meme? Ads, signs, etc. Hell, people walking around the streets with signs. Short blurbs of his many shortcomings, starting with "What the New York Times Won't Tell You".

re: #105 The Archivist

Great quote:

"Because John McCain chose her to be his vice president and I trust the judgment of somebody who was tortured by communists far more than the judgment of somebody who was educated by communists."

Interesting nic too. Knew another such in the late 70s who said he worked at Langley. Caught heck when they put him in charge of display cases, and he staged a display of invisible writing--all manner of little folded cards describing the contents of the display, but nothing else in the cases!

LOL! Sounds like the air show "Stealth Bomber" static display: a carefully roped-off spot of empty tarmac. :-)

#52, et. al.

Yeah, abolition of the EC would require a constitutional amendment and there is a deliberately high, built-in threshold that would make it very tough to get out of Congress. I suspect a significant number--maybe the majority--of Blue Dog Democrats would also have serious reservations about messing with the EC--the possibility of a de facto civil war occurring would certainly be one of them:

[Link: www.usconstitution.net...]

One thing the Donks particularly don't want to admit is that abolition of the EC would most certainly INCREASE the possibility of voter fraud since elections would be driven by turnout, turnout, turnout--especially in large urban areas.

re: #99 zombie

So I ask the open question: In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?

As We've seen over the past few years, running against a candidate is a losing cause. Running for a candidate is a much strong position. I'd suggest accentuating the strength of the McCain/Palin ticket.
/Good luck

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but this is the ONLY news I ever want to hear! I hope the media talks about this for the next 20 years!

The sad part is.... they will.

re: #96 nyc redneck

if the msm had just done a few investigative reports on the O he would have been bounced long ago.
instead they covered for him, ran interference for him, and ignored all the really damning things abt. this anti-american socialist.
they have failed totally to bring us the news. they didn't do their jobs.
they should all be fired.

A billion dollars will have been raised by Obama - mostly ending up in MSM's coffers. So cut them some slack, it's just good capitalism.///

re: #99 zombie

The one image or story line that we have not seen enough of is simple photograph of the Supreme Court with their ages superimposed.

re: #99 zombie

I am with you. I have been racking my brain trying to come up with new ways to piece the media enclave. But one thing is certain. Too many of us are bitching on the sidelines. This thing is winnable but time is running out.

I would suggest well produced fact sheet to be handed out door to door. It is old fashioned but the only way it will get to the masses. However, it must be clever and be able to fly under the radar so it is not simply discarded. If I could burn the CD on hillbuzz I just referenced and mail it out it would be worth the effort - it is crude but effective.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

As We've seen over the past few years, running against a candidate is a losing cause. Running for a candidate is a much strong position. I'd suggest accentuating the strength of the McCain/Palin ticket.
/Good luck

That's true too. Lots of "McCain will make America great again"

re: #37 Alouette

The words "racist" and "racism" did not exist in 1860. Can you imagine an entire political campaign that doesn't use those words?

In 1860 the current MSM would be referring to the anti-slavery movement as "anti-choice" and doing exposés on Lincoln's stovepipe hat expenditures.

re: #65 notutopia

Re; Military Ballots being tossed in Va.
This was due to a technicality, the ballots were printed with no provision to apply an address location of the witness attesting to the voter ballot signature. Va Democratic party chair says, "Sorry, but it's the law."
I wonder how those overseas military personnel feel about this?

The same way I felt upon finding out none of my absentee ballots over 20 years counted because there was no postage cancellation on it, being military mail. Pissed off.

re: #70 Cartman

I believe Rush said today that he's finally starting to think that this election coverage may end up damaging the mainstream media beyond redemption. I'm skeptical. but would certainly welcome that outcome.

I believe it is their last shot at relevancy so they are playing it for all it's worth. Apparently taking a large risk doing so hoping it pays off, I guess.

re: #99 zombie

As most people actually love children you might want to go with the angle that Obama viewed his own potential grandchild as a "punishment' and candidate for an abortion.

Now, if someone has that attitude to an innocent person of his own flesh and blood, how can he be trusted to protect other people, not even of his own family?

I would not feel safe if this Obama person had any power over me, or my family.

It is a small point in the view of many, but I think it is very very disqualifying what Obama said.

re: #59 jetprop

I'm fairly certain there's a movement afoot to do away with the EC. Seems like we need it now more than ever.

Not going to happen. To get rid of requires constitutional amendment, and that requires ratification of 3/4 the states, and none of the smaller states (with any sanity) would ratify it.

re: #25 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Now Joe Buck and Tim McCarver are talking about race during the World Series game tonight. It never ends!

Yeah, I wish they'd lay off that topic. Why to people think they are being so ground breaking by bringing up a topic that is discussed every day ad infinitum, and has been for years and years? I propose a one year moratorium on the subject.

re: #99 zombie

But I worry that even these do not reach the remaining undecideds. Because if you're undecided at this point, you have to be nearly brain-dead and extremely media unaware.

My feelings exactly. I'm pretty sure that most of these "undecideds" are probably incapable of making the most rudimentary decisions in life on a daily basis.

re: #99 zombie

Time for a public strategy session.

A lot of bloggers and independent citizen journalists are doing their best to generate public awareness of Obama's many "negatives." And although many scandal-worthy facts have been uncovered, it is still unknown to what extent this information is reaching "the undecideds" or the general public at large.

Certainly, anybody out there who has Web access and even a halfway open mind is able to see and absorb all the damning info about Obama. But I get the feeling that the vast majority of "undecideds" are pretty non-Web-savvy and/or are pretty (let's be frank here) uninformed about rudimentary historical and cultural facts -- so that scandals which should affect them deeply instead bounce off their heads like a tennis ball off a brick wall.

How to reach these people in a way that will affect them?

A major, huge, almost impenetrable stumbling block (I'm willing to admit) is the 100% pro-Obama bias of the media. They simply will not give anything traction unless they are absolutely forced to. Pathetic, trivial and downright false claims and pseudo-scandals dreamt up by left-wing blogs get immediate front-page coverage nationwide; but even substantial investigations (and I'm not talking about myself here -- I've seen a lot of great work out there) from our side are greeted with total silence for the most part. Which means the information we generate, no matter how good or juicy, never even reaches the people it needs to reach. Which is exactly what the media wants.

The polls, to the extent thay can be trusted, are either showing an Obama lead or a very close race. We can't take the chance that they are even vaguely accurate. We have to accelerate to the finish line -- not coast.

Yes, the blogosphere has grown in power substantially; and our side of the blogosphere has grown substantially; and the mainstream media has fallen in influence and power. But for the moment, they do still barely have the upper hand: if the major TV networks refuse to cover a story, then a substantial portion of Americans will simply never hear of it.

There are other ways that information gets out: email lists and mass-mailings are one, and from which I have benefitted greatly these last months; many of my essays have been emailed like spam from here to Timbuktu from list to list. And "niche media" -- i.e. media with a self-identified slant -- is another.

But I worry that even these do not reach the remaining undecideds. Because if you're undecided at this point, you have to be nearly brain-dead and extremely media unaware. I think the ONLY way to reach the remaining people who could decide this election is by getting something, somehow onto their network TV screens.

But since the networks are absolutely in the tank for Obama, and totally uncooperative, how can this be achieved?

Barring any brilliant ideas or unexpected revelations, all we can do is keep plugging along, and doing what we've been doing. But in this comment what I'm looking for are exactly that: brilliant ideas and unexpected revelations.

So I ask the open question: In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?

I want either specific "story ideas" that seem promising; or unorthodox media strategies. Or something wild.

I have a few notions of my own, but I'm looking for input. Let the ideas flow!

(And I reserve the right to repost this on an open thread later tonight, if needed.)

Joe the plumber is being under rated. All the rest is just too late to stick. It is about the economy. Joe is the American Dream. Diss him at your peril. This message must be the singular message until election day. The rest will be discussed post mortum, win or lose.

re: #109 Teacake!

It is a detest for anything authoritarian. They do not have capacity for tolerance of living within a society that is bounded by constitutional rules. To them everything should be "wide open"based on fairness. A lot of it is individual perception of the term "Freedom". They wish to redefine it to their own terms. Fairness is a perception they wish to define to fit their reality of a free society. Capitalism means they would have to work their own weight in that system. Who wants capitalism when everything is free and wide open?

i have though about putting something like that with the papers but i woud get fired, and plus alot of time people dont bother to read the flyer, like when you come out from shopping and there is something on your car windshield, but it would get the word out, if it is short, sweet and to the point
re: #124 wright1

I am with you. I have been racking my brain trying to come up with new ways to piece the media enclave. But one thing is certain. Too many of us are bitching on the sidelines. This thing is winnable but time is running out.

I would suggest well produced fact sheet to be handed out door to door. It is old fashioned but the only way it will get to the masses. However, it must be clever and be able to fly under the radar so it is not simply discarded. If I could burn the CD on hillbuzz I just referenced and mail it out it would be worth the effort - it is crude but effective.

Once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced to the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $5 each. The villagers seeing that there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest and started catching them.

The man bought thousands at $5 and as supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their effort.

He further announced that he would now buy at $10. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again. Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back to their farms.

The offer increased to $15 each and the supply of monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch it.

The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50. However, since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy on his behalf.

In the man's absence, the assistant told the villagers "Look at all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will sell them to you at $35 and when the man returns from the city, you can sell them to him for $50 each."

The villagers rounded up with all their savings and bought all the monkeys. Then they never again saw the man nor his assistant, only monkeys everywhere!

And THAT ladies and gentleman is how the stock market works...

"So I ask the open question: In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?"

Z: McCain must pull out all stops.

re: #129 Ojoe

As most people actually love children you might want to go with the angle that Obama viewed his own potential grandchild as a "punishment' and candidate for an abortion.

Now, if someone has that attitude to an innocent person of his own flesh and blood, how can he be trusted to protect other people, not even of his own family?

I would not feel safe if this Obama person had any power over me, or my family.

It is a small point in the view of many, but I think it is very very disqualifying what Obama said.

Or how about a pictorial which declared Obama's devotion to his family ie., going to Hawaii to see grandma yet contrasting his brother George in Kenya, who despite his (BHO) nearly billion dollar influx of campaign cash was unable to send him a few bucks...

I still say this approach needs to be made into a commercial as soon as possible!

You could even run it as a McCain 527 and not violate McCain's rule against mentioning Rev. Wright!

re: #54 twincitiesgirl

Charlie Gibson: McCain's Favorite Network Anchor?

Remember, Charlie Gibson is the one who gave Obama the tough question about raising taxes, iirc capital gains taxes, and how it will reduce revenues to the government, not increase them. This was during the primaries. (Not that I think revenues to the government should be the justification for lowering taxes. ).

Obama didn't do well with that and Gibson pressed him. So, he can be fair.

re: #81 Crusty

Russia has Pravda, we have USA Today, the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, L.A. Times, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN. All party-controlled media.

Does an objective person on earth in the year 2008 have an actual impartial source of facts they can turn to?*

*LGF isn't supposed to be impartial, but at least it has facts!

Have any of these organs ~ever~ claimed to be totally impartial? Or is it merely a myth we all grew up with?

re: #126 Crusty

In 1860 the current MSM would be referring to the anti-slavery movement as "anti-choice" and doing exposés on Lincoln's stovepipe hat expenditures.

Mary Lincoln wore gowns that cost $2000 (in 1860's money, not adjusted) and redecorated the White House while the country was in the midst of the bloodiest war of its history.

to all you praying and or good karma lizards out there..tomorrow morning at this time janecitizen and I will be sitting in a pittsburgh courtroom hoping to hear a judge tell us that we can indeed begin the process of adopting our 15 mo old granddaughter who has been with us since day one...so, on behalf of little darlin' emilycitizen we ask for your prayers and positive energy...and now, back to the thread...

re: #112 The Shadow Do

This was originally instilled to accommodate growing populations outside the urban centers for equal political representation, now it is used to draw lines in political party favors.

re: #91 notutopia

And that's what makes Charles a target for criticisms and name calling.
They can't stand our presence and don't like being challenged with the FACTS!

Yep. Whenever someone I know starts believing an anti-Obama story simply because it's anti-Obama, without verifying the facts, I tell them, "Now now, let's not be liberals about this."

re: #140 Archimedes

Remember, Charlie Gibson is the one who gave Obama the tough question about raising taxes, iirc capital gains taxes, and how it will reduce revenues to the government, not increase them. This was during the primaries. (Not that I think revenues to the government should be the justification for lowering taxes. ).

Obama didn't do well with that and Gibson pressed him. So, he can be fair.

I wasn't arguing that point, I was trying to defend him.

re: #99 zombie

Mobilize the Republican undead.

re: #143 joecitizen

I will hold you and Jane and your request up to the Lord, right now.

God Bless.

Kiwi

re: #143 joecitizen

to all you praying and or good karma lizards out there..tomorrow morning at this time janecitizen and I will be sitting in a pittsburgh courtroom hoping to hear a judge tell us that we can indeed begin the process of adopting our 15 mo old granddaughter who has been with us since day one...so, on behalf of little darlin' emilycitizen we ask for your prayers and positive energy...and now, back to the thread...

done and will again in the am

re: #141 Outrider

A person may turn to his or her own life experience & reading if they have their eyes open, and if they take some time to think about their own life, and ask the Creator for awareness.

IMHO this will get you to the truth.

Zombie: A DVD caused quite a dust-up when "OBSESSION" the insert.

Just think what an Anti-BHO DVD might do...

re: #117 cliffster

How about a "What the New York Times Won't Tell You" meme? Ads, signs, etc. Hell, people walking around the streets with signs. Short blurbs of his many shortcomings, starting with "What the New York Times Won't Tell You".

Interesting. I like it. A coordinated effort. Might have some breakthrough effect.

re: #143 joecitizen

May the court rule in emilys behalf and grant you legal adoption!
I'll be channeling for you! and Emily!

re: #124 wright1

What about old fashioned 60s era postering of every phone pole and wall to be found? Work up some core facts, typography to look revolutionary (not psychedelic!), one or two easy to remember web links. Pdf to zombietime for download. Print locally and distribute.

ACORN, yes! American soldiers...not so much.

The same Secretary of State who has thus far refused to even investigate ACORN's activities here in Massachusetts--and who supports giving tax dollars to a group committing election fraud--won't do his job (sworn duty) to protect the right to vote for men and women fighting for our nation abroad.

MA Secretary of State Bill Galvin, who will fight to the death to make sure a "voter" who can't even read the ballot unless its written in Portuguese gets a vote, violated federal law rather than make sure an American soldier serving in Baghdad gets his ballot.

re: #143 joecitizen

to all you praying and or good karma lizards out there..tomorrow morning at this time janecitizen and I will be sitting in a pittsburgh courtroom hoping to hear a judge tell us that we can indeed begin the process of adopting our 15 mo old granddaughter who has been with us since day one...so, on behalf of little darlin' emilycitizen we ask for your prayers and positive energy...and now, back to the thread...

all the best to you, joecitizen. hope it works out.
i'm sure it will.
what a wonderful thing you are doing.

re: #147 Spare O'Lake

Mobilize the Republican undead.

While Zombie is doing a great job, finding Republican undead is difficult due to, as Bob Hope explains, the very nature of the undead.

re: #116 Outrider

Yeah, but this pops up every election year. If the EC were trashed, the major urban centers would elect the President and the rest of us would be disenfranchised from the presidential vote. Pretty clear the reason only one party wants it done away with.

Yep. Plus it would be an erosion of state's rights. Voter fraud could be a bigger issue without the EC.

re: #152 zombie

Interesting. I like it. A coordinated effort. Might have some breakthrough effect.

That may resonate in NYC but are battleground states reading this dead letter?

McCain and Obama staff salaries compared

re: #104 wright1

By the way, did anyone see this? - hilarious if not frighteningly true.

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Funny truth.

re: #152 zombie

Interesting. I like it. A coordinated effort. Might have some breakthrough effect.

maybe the same people who did OBSESSION could help, they were even able to get it in the NYT sunday paper along with lots of others, ( i still have several copies of it from that day)

#128,

I believe it is [the MSM's] last shot at relevancy so they are playing it for all it's worth. Apparently taking a large risk doing so hoping it pays off, I guess.

Yeah, the MSM is riding high right now...just like the dinosaurs right before the asteroid hit. To wit:

1. If Obama wins, the MSM is royally f***ed because over half the country will finally realize it has openly cast its lot with one political party and become just another (short)arm of the State. The MSM will never be trusted again and Red America will proceed even more furiously to develop its own independent, and more trustworthy, media outlets.

2. If McCain wins, the MSM is still f***ed for the pretty much the same rationale stated in #1.

re: #157 gmsc

While Zombie is doing a great job, finding Republican undead is difficult due to, as Bob Hope explains, the very nature of the undead.

LOL!

notutopia
re: #109 Teacake!
It is a detest for anything authoritarian.

LOL but they idolize dictators. What a strange bunch humans are.

re: #154 The Archivist

What about old fashioned 60s era postering of every phone pole and wall to be found? Work up some core facts, typography to look revolutionary (not psychedelic!), one or two easy to remember web links. Pdf to zombietime for download. Print locally and distribute.

Not bad. How about an old WANTED sign: William Ayers & Company for the crimes of Terrorism against the U.S. Government. If you see him or anyone who "pals around with him" contact this website!

re: #16 ballantrae

could some lizzard look into this and tell me if it's accurate:

[Link: shiratdevorah.blogspot.com...]

Compare it to
The Iranian Mystery Ship: Death from the Sea
October 3, 2008
by Brian Harring
[Link: www.brianharring@yahoo.com...]

"CONSPIRACIES for Fun and Profit." That's not just my opinion. That's a direct quote from the webmaster of that site. That quote is not from his "news" site, but elsewhere, a couple years ago. (Search on Fun and Profit) I've posted on this before here and here.

Also, the story came out very shortly before oil prices plunged.

re: #99 zombie

1) I'd say attack Obama for elitism. (Dobbs -- look up Dobbs' program about Obama sneering at Joe the Plumber). Get video clips of the smears directed by Obama against the Ordinary Joe -- the Obama insults to the Ordinary American. Emphasize this -- Obama's disdain (if not hatred) for America's ordinary people.

2) Economic Issues. Pin Obama for causing the current economic crisis, and insist that an Obama presidency will only ensure an enrichment of the Elite Class (meaning the graduates of Harvard, etc.) with a consequent impoverishment of the middle class. Note all of Obama's policies which would go to ending poverty in the Third World, while ignoring the suffering status of Ordinary Americans. Hence, Obama's "priorities" are directed toward "The World", and NOT to America.

3) Emphasize Obama's lack of Security Clearance -- that on Foreign Policy matters he would abandon traditional allies while embracing avowed Enemies of the United States.

re: #120 Killgore Trout

As We've seen over the past few years, running against a candidate is a losing cause. Running for a candidate is a much strong position. I'd suggest accentuating the strength of the McCain/Palin ticket.
/Good luck

"Good luck" is right. McCain is too much like Dorando Pietri for that to succeed very easily. He should be promoting himself more. Instead, we will have to drag him across the finish line.

Personally, cynically, I think we will have to go negative and get the goods on Obama, to puncture his image. McCain can't compete in the "crowd appeal" category.

I just can't do the Creationist thing right now. Night all!

re: #104 wright1

By the way, did anyone see this? - hilarious if not frighteningly true.

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

that was very good.

Well goo evening all y'all - late again to the party and hope y'all haven't gone over to the next thread!
What have I missed out here tonight?!

re: #160 SteveC

McCain and Obama staff salaries compared

Men making more than women? Are you sure about that?

re: #144 notutopia

This was originally instilled to accommodate growing populations outside the urban centers for equal political representation, now it is used to draw lines in political party favors.

I have no doubt you are correct historically. I also have no doubt that the present system will not change. Elections have consequences as they say, and this is a big one. Local elections matter, a lot.

re: #99 zombie

Encourage all small business owners to send out provisional pink slips if Obama wins.

Just to make sure all of those employees have adequate time to plan a transition. I don't believe the unemployment insurance system, the network of community colleges and job retraining programs could handle the strain.

re: #168 J.S.

For what it is worth - the subject of attack is EASY. There are many targets. The question is delivery.

Zombie, in the remaining days it's real important to push the big issues where McCain is definitely positive, and Obama negative.

So I would find ways to emphasize taxes, energy and it's effects on the economy, and national defense. Biden's gaffe certainly opened the door for the latter.

re: #136 lummox

A similar story:

A stock broker calls a client and tells him about a "great opportunity" on a stock that is selling for only 10 cents a share and is "bound to go up". The client says OK, I'll buy 1000 shares.

The next day the broker calls and says "great news! the stock is up to 50 cents and is still rising!" The client says "great! I'll buy 2000 shares more!"

The next day the broker calls: "This stock is on fire! it's up to a dollar and the sky's the limit!" and the client says "Great, I'll buy 5000 shares more!"

The next day the broker calls and says "This is phenomenal! the stock is up to 5 dollars!" and the client says "Great! Sell it all!"

And the broker says: "To who?"

re: #142 Alouette

Mary Lincoln wore gowns that cost $2000 (in 1860's money, not adjusted) and redecorated the White House while the country was in the midst of the bloodiest war of its history.

Where did this wealth originate? $2000 in the 1860's would be worth how much today?

i think you are on to someting there, do it the ayers way, make it look lie something of "theirs" and they will read it, before they realize it their brain willbe on overload, just wait till they actualy go to zombies site!

>re: #154 The Archivist

What about old fashioned 60s era postering of every phone pole and wall to be found? Work up some core facts, typography to look revolutionary (not psychedelic!), one or two easy to remember web links. Pdf to zombietime for download. Print locally and distribute.

re: #172 realwest
Staying on this thread.
Hey realwest.

re: #168 J.S.

I agree: Joe and the economy. Keep tying the Dems to the debacle, too.
Everything else takes to much groundwork to be effective in the time remaining. That and pray fervently for another "Joe" type incident. That would nail the coffin.

re: #99 zombie

Time for a public strategy session.

A lot of bloggers and independent citizen journalists are doing their best to generate public awareness of Obama's many "negatives." And although many scandal-worthy facts have been uncovered, it is still unknown to what extent this information is reaching "the undecideds" or the general public at large.

(snip)

So I ask the open question: In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?

I want either specific "story ideas" that seem promising; or unorthodox media strategies. Or something wild.

I have a few notions of my own, but I'm looking for input. Let the ideas flow!

(And I reserve the right to repost this on an open thread later tonight, if needed.)

Although someone in the press stated I was apparently narcisstic because I have a blog, I found that is a way to reach a lot of people. They don't have to search for information merely click a link I provide. My reputation among my neighbors, friends, etc is good so they will listen to what I put in there. By providing links, they can verify the stories themselves. Make it easy for them.
I put up the campaign signs and wear the shirts. This provokes questions, which I answer and send these folks to my blog site, LGF, Zombies, or some others depending what I read that day and what question they asked. I have business cards with these URLs already on them.
I have had quite a few people drop back by and ask other questions and I know for a fact I have brougt a few undecideds over to McCain/Palin side. I sincerely doubt I have converted any Obama followers though. ;-)>

re: #106 Hobbes

Some leftist idiot on O'Reily's show said that the Daily Kos is a "Market place of ideas".

They are. Bad ones.

re: #146 twincitiesgirl

I wasn't arguing that point, I was trying to defend him.

Yes I know, I was backing up your point. I remember thinking he was reasonable too, although it's been a long time since I'd seen him.

re: #169 zombie

I agree.
Finish really ugly and negative with Rev. Wright and openly play the race card.
.5/

I have also found moving Obama signs to yards with foreclosure sale signs to be particularly cathartic on my morning jogs.

re: #169 zombie
I agree zombie and think that America First is a great slogan and something I'd hope my politicians woud in fact feel, but we know Obama doesn't.
McCain's appeal, such as it is, is that he truly does put American First - and tried to take the High Road - remember him putting Rev. Wright on the no-hit list VERY EARLY in the game?
But Bi-Partisanship hasn't really worked with the Democrats and John should have reached that conclussion on his own a while back - I think Americans want less bi-partisanship and more of a Do what's right for me type of President.

re: #99 zombie

The best bang for the buck is to target the swing states. Fliers; email lists; Craigslist postings with links to credible resources that expose Obama; post links on other blogs, etc.

I've sent these out to my address list:

Prairie Fire

Obama's 95% Illusion

The comprehensive argument against Barack Obama

Staying here too, though zzzz's in the near future.

Meanwhile, the MSM just doesn't have enough information to definitively link Obama to William Ayers...

re: #133 The Shadow Do

Joe the plumber is being under rated. All the rest is just too late to stick. It is about the economy. Joe is the American Dream. Diss him at your peril. This message must be the singular message until election day. The rest will be discussed post mortum, win or lose.

So your strategy is: Joe the Plumber, all the time, straight through til election day.

But: How do we get the media to cooperate? Instead, they'll show us X-rays of his colonoscopy or claim he raped a goat.

The family wheeled Grandma out on the lawn, in her wheelchair where the activities for her 100th birthday were taking place.

Grandma had a mild stroke, couldn't speak very well, but she could write notes when she needed to communicate.

After a short time out on the lawn, Grandma started leaning off to the right, so some family members grabbed her, straightened her up, and stuffed pillows on her right.

A short time later, she started leaning off to her left, so again the family grabbed her and stuffed pillows on her left.

Soon she started leaning forward, so the family members again grabbed her and then tied a pillowcase around her waist to hold her up.

A grandson, who arrived late, came up to Grandma and said, "Hi Grandma, you're looking good! How are they treating you?" Grandma took out her little notepad and slowly wrote a note to the nephew... "They won't let me fart."

Even the Boston Globe recognizes that there is bias. Not that they'll do anything about it.

McCain won't go negative, he needs a surrogate to do it.

Rudy or Fred, somebody willing to charge the machine guns who the media can't ignore.

re: #143 joecitizen

to all you praying and or good karma lizards out there..tomorrow morning at this time janecitizen and I will be sitting in a pittsburgh courtroom hoping to hear a judge tell us that we can indeed begin the process of adopting our 15 mo old granddaughter who has been with us since day one...so, on behalf of little darlin' emilycitizen we ask for your prayers and positive energy...and now, back to the thread...

Will gladly pray for you and your family.....and for the Judge, also.

hahahahahaahaha sweet!
re: #187 de La Valette

I have also found moving Obama signs to yards with foreclosure sale signs to be particularly cathartic on my morning jogs.

re: #173 twincitiesgirl
Uh, nope - McCain apparently has been paying women on his campaign staff a tad more than what he's been paying men on his staff and has been since the primaries.

re: #137 ted

"So I ask the open question: In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?"

Z: McCain must pull out all stops.

A little more specific, please!

And it's not what McCain should do: It's what WE should do.

I've been wracking my brain trying to understand how intelligent people can be so irrational - so I wonder, perhaps a great deal of O people could be on antidepressants? Too many movies where the evil villain is glamorized? Public school system started teaching values instead of fundamentals? Too much pot? Something is really odd that so many people can't see a really bad apple when its so clear and obvious and just brush off the facts as no big deal.

re: #198 realwest

Is that a clothing allowance?

Each of us can do something, no matter how small, and it can add up like drops of water filling the ocean. I've gotten on a first name basis with the McCain field manager in Albuquerque and have been feeding them information. Yesterday she told me the internals are looking better here for New Mexico, within the margin of error. That is very encouraging.

McCain and Cindy are coming to hold a rally on Saturday morning at the state fairgrounds and I used my contact to wangle press credentials from the McCain office (I am a professional photographer and blogger). I will be wearing a McCain button so that no one will mistake me for MSM! I plan to post photos and also share them with the campaign. Should be fun, and might make a difference. I'll give you a report later.

Second current article at Powerline blog, an update on their lead story this morning covering the BHO credit card fraud. Big laugh at this article over the following phony info entered:

First name: Fake
Last Name: Donor
Address: 1 Dollar To Prove A Point
City: Fraudulent
State: AL
Zip / Post: 33333
Email Address: allmyinfoismadeup@mediabias.com
Phone Number: 2125551212
Employer: Mainstream Media
Occupation: Being in the Tank

And the payment was accepted!

re: #175 de La Valette
Shoot - send those "provisional" pink slips out NOW and add "just in case Obama wins, you may be looking for a new job" to 'em.

re: #192 zombie

So your strategy is: Joe the Plumber, all the time, straight through til election day.

But: How do we get the media to cooperate? Instead, they'll show us X-rays of his colonoscopy or claim he raped a goat.

LOL! You're right! But that crap just won't fly with the folks. Beat down a little guy trying to get ahead? Okay, go for it ....

/besides, everyone knows goats lie. All of 'em.

re: #187 de La Valette

I have also found moving Obama signs to yards with foreclosure sale signs to be particularly cathartic on my morning jogs.

I'm tempted to laugh, yet I know I shouldn't.

re: #151 wright1

Zombie: A DVD caused quite a dust-up when "OBSESSION" the insert.

Just think what an Anti-BHO DVD might do...

Who will organize it?

Do undecideds even know how to play DVDs?

open_letter_to_sportsmen.pdf

media

Youtube
facebook
blogs
email
snail mail
flyers in papers
printable posters to slather on telephone poles (the kind you can mass produce on a xerox)

... but don't do a blimp

re: #99 zombie

Zombie, the trick is to dramatize just how much is either unknown about 0bama, or that 0bama would prefer be kept secret. You can make that stick effectively with the use of:

1. Simplicity
2. Uniqueness
3. Concretness
4. Credibility
5. Emotional appeals
6. Stories

(If you haven't read Made To Stick, buy it and read it NOW!)

Hit this home in an ad like the one I proposed and of which karridine developed a basic version. Make people question how much they truly know about 0bama!

The only thing close to this that I've seen so far in this election is the occasional asking of 0bama supporters to name an accomplishment of his. That's not enough, but the basic idea is powerful!

re: #193 lummox

hoot!

re: #199 zombie

It's after 1130 and I tossed you three out the box ideas, plus the yard sign thing.

Another idea, go viral with images of Obama smoking. Out astroturf Axelrod.

re: #185 Archimedes

Yes I know, I was backing up your point. I remember thinking he was reasonable too, although it's been a long time since I'd seen him.

I watch him quite a bit-usually on the evening news. I always trusted him to be balanced in his reporting. It will be a very sad day when the media can suck the last vestiges of integrity out of someone like Charlie. He's probably counting the days to retirement. I know I'd be if I were him.

re: #192 zombie

I'd say, forget about the MSM. Go for mailing lists with YouTube (or other) video clips...(gotta be short on the text -- cut out the text business -- nobody reads -- go with images and voice overs...and i also think the economy is key, key, key...the BBC did a snippet re: why voters are voting the way they are in Missouri...and "it's the economy, stupid."). btw, if you want to transmit (this has been studied) the most info in the shortest amount of time -- you go with audio (like lectures/speaking -- not reading...reading takes far, far too long -- reading is too time consuming.)

re: #181 newsjunkie_ky
Hi there {newsjunkie_ky} - hope y'all got my e-mails tonight!

re: #204 realwest

Thats the idea. Zombie, see #99, is looking for out of the box, gamechangers.

re: #169 zombie

"Good luck" is right. McCain is too much like Dorando Pietri for that to succeed very easily. He should be promoting himself more. Instead, we will have to drag him across the finish line.

Personally, cynically, I think we will have to go negative and get the goods on Obama, to puncture his image. McCain can't compete in the "crowd appeal" category.

Hard for a guy to compete with someone that tells you he is going to give you lots of stuff and eliminate a lot of your daily worries when you are telling them it is going to be a tough haul but we can do it.

I wish McCain would say O is a puppet for George Scoros for one. That our sovereignty is at risk. That O's only bill is the global poverty tax and would make us slaves to the UN. I wish he would just get real and honest and forget the talking points and speak from his heart about how dangerous O is and who O might appoint to his cabinet.

re: #212 de La Valette

It's after 1130 and I tossed you three out the box ideas, plus the yard sign thing.

Another idea, go viral with images of Obama smoking. Out astroturf Axelrod.

Know what? That smoking photo would be worth a fortune.

re: #152 zombie

Interesting. I like it. A coordinated effort. Might have some breakthrough effect.

Let me know how I can help :^)

re: #168 J.S.

1) I'd say attack Obama for elitism. (Dobbs -- look up Dobbs' program about Obama sneering at Joe the Plumber). Get video clips of the smears directed by Obama against the Ordinary Joe -- the Obama insults to the Ordinary American. Emphasize this -- Obama's disdain (if not hatred) for America's ordinary people.

2) Economic Issues. Pin Obama for causing the current economic crisis, and insist that an Obama presidency will only ensure an enrichment of the Elite Class (meaning the graduates of Harvard, etc.) with a consequent impoverishment of the middle class. Note all of Obama's policies which would go to ending poverty in the Third World, while ignoring the suffering status of Ordinary Americans. Hence, Obama's "priorities" are directed toward "The World", and NOT to America.

3) Emphasize Obama's lack of Security Clearance -- that on Foreign Policy matters he would abandon traditional allies while embracing avowed Enemies of the United States.

I like the elitism emphasis idea, but the rest seems too esoteric and complicated for the bozo undecideds. Plus, we'd have to compete with the Obama infomercials.

re: #178 CIA Reject

Guy goes into the jungle

Tells the natives that he'll buy monkeys for $5 a head.

natives go wild and capture thousands of monkeys.

Monkey numbers decrease and are harder to catch so some natives give up. The outsider raises the price to $10 a head.

Hundreds of monkeys are caught and added to the cage.

Numbers fall ever further and very few monkeys inhabit the jungle.

The price goes up to $20 a head and scores of monkeys are caught.

Now nobody sees many monkeys at all in the jungle and enthusiasm for catching them falls.

The price is upped to $50 a head but the outsider has to go away on business elsewhere and his assistant is put in charge of catching monkeys.

On the side the assistant says to the natives. "look there are almost no monkeys left. I'll sell you the monkeys in the cage for $40 a head and you can sell them to the boss for $50 a head. We;ll all make squillions of dollars.

The natives borrow all the money they can and buy the monkeys and they never saw the boss man or his assistant again.

WELCOME TO WALL STREET!

re: #198 realwest

Uh, nope - McCain apparently has been paying women on his campaign staff a tad more than what he's been paying men on his staff and has been since the primaries.

Sorry Real, I was being a little sarcastic. That never pays off in the end.

UPDATE ON AYERS/OBAMA DREAMS FROM MY FATHER CONNECTION

Tonight Cashill named Utah Representative Chris Cannon as the guy who contacted him and arranged for two university based authorship authorities to analyze the material. He did not name the universities but said that they were major publicly funded institutions.

He said they have been working around the clock and will announce their findings in the next day or two.

He has been talking to Drudge and other conservative media types about breaking the story.

Cashill is very excited about this and claims the findings will be enough to prove (if not conclusively) that Ayers aided Obama in a very significant way in writing Dreams.

re: #208 lummox

Thank you for that. Explains the nic too.

There's a group of people in Chicago who are being chased out of their old apartments in the projects in O's old neighborhood by policies he created, anyone do a vid on them?

What I'm really looking for, and not getting so far, are tips and story ideas that, if investigated and proven true, could really blow the campaign wide open.

re: #207 zombie

Who will organize it?

Do undecideds even know how to play DVDs?

Now we are getting to the nitty-gritty: production and delivery - assuming this idea can work we need to ask is there anyone out there with computer graphics skills/software design. As for whether independants will play it - assuming you are not being silly, yes they will know how to play it. But I am also for a two tier approach of fliers to homes and cars...

re: #207 zombie

Don't obsessive over the "undecideds" -- mostly in polls the "undecideds" are not really "undecided" -- they just tell that to the pollsters...

re: #192 zombie

So your strategy is: Joe the Plumber, all the time, straight through til election day.

But: How do we get the media to cooperate? Instead, they'll show us X-rays of his colonoscopy or claim he raped a goat.

er....Was it a female goat? That might make a difference among some of the demographics. ;-)>

re: #199 zombie

A little more specific, please!

And it's not what McCain should do: It's what WE should do.

I for one intend to spend a lot of time in prayer. After all it worked reasonably well for this guy.

re: #177 Thanos

Zombie, in the remaining days it's real important to push the big issues where McCain is definitely positive, and Obama negative.

So I would find ways to emphasize taxes, energy and it's effects on the economy, and national defense. Biden's gaffe certainly opened the door for the latter.

Yes yes yes, but how how how?

Once again, how can we break though the media wall? Unless something is spectacularly scandalous and newsworthy, the media will not cooperate in pushing our meme.

Zombie, what about doing an interview to punt your story on radio. Say with
Rush. Or another radio host that would receptive. Ed Morrisey.
Go dressed incognito. Costume as the Zombie to protect your anonymity.

re: #177 Thanos

Exactly. One of the main services the MSM is rendering to Obama is taking the energy and national security issues off the table entirely and dumping them down the memory hole. It would be nice to resurrect them.
As you say, those two and taxes.

re: #227 zombie

And you suppose someone here has one they haven't chosen to mention?

re: #227 zombie

What I'm really looking for, and not getting so far, are tips and story ideas that, if investigated and proven true, could really blow the campaign wide open.

My approach at #210 takes almost the exact opposite direction, but I think it would prove more effective.

re: #221 zombie

It's got to be small, cheap, and viral. Obama is going to carpet bomb his message using the most expensive air time. The only way to stop that is to have something with enough flair to pop thru the static.

re: #217 Outrider

Hard for a guy to compete with someone that tells you he is going to give you lots of stuff and eliminate a lot of your daily worries when you are telling them it is going to be a tough haul but we can do it.

Watched a young guy being interviewed by Frank Whatshisname's so called undecided focus group following the last debate. He decided he was going for Obama. Why? "Well, it seems like he is going to give me more".

And there you have it.

re: #227 zombie

#227, meet #226:

"There's a group of people in Chicago who are being chased out of their old apartments in the projects in O's old neighborhood by policies he created, anyone do a vid on them?"

re: #221 zombie

Go with the visual clips of Obama -- chin up in the air -- then a voice over about arrogance. also, Lou Dobbs was really, really effective in his program in demonstrating Obama's arrogant dismissal (he played video clips of both Obama and Biden) of Joe the Plumber...gotta get those clips...

Also play up what a liar O is about all his associates. He has revealed himself to lie all the time when he tosses someone aside. Why do they trust someone who lies and lies and lies? I'd never date a guy who lies like this guy does and just that alone is why I would never want him as the POTUS.

And Biden! O shit! All the things he said about O as to why he wasn't ready to be pres.

re: #225 The Archivist

Perhaps I allowed too much cat out of the bag. Maybe I'll have Charles delete.

re: #221 zombie

I like the elitism emphasis idea, but the rest seems too esoteric and complicated for the bozo undecideds. Plus, we'd have to compete with the Obama infomercials.

I think we need to be more deliberative in the choice of words that we use.

Elitism is not pejorative enough. The more appropriate word with the appropriate pejorative quality is "Snobbery".

The left is not elitist. It is snobbish.

Words have meaning, and we must be able to find it in within ourselves to use them to their fullest potential.

Elitist -> Snobbish.

re: #227 zombie

Local Public library books that have been checked out for reading by the Obama family members. Leading to info on subjects of family beliefs?

#99 Zombie

From my point of view, as a guy who grew up in a working class family; five kids - we've always believed that the Democrat Party was the party of the working class. But we would never have signed on for communism, which is socialism's ultimate aim. I've voted anti-democrat in the last couple elections, for reasons I will not enumerate here, but I know that in the hearts of many Democrats, lies the yearning for freedom and a chance to "get there." I believe that most people who think they're voting Democrat this year - as they always have - is out of dedication to a party they've always supported. I also believe that if they'd just realize how socialist ideology has crept into the party platform, they may be convinced that McCain is liberal enough. For crying out loud, he was the MSM's Golden Boy of the Republican party. Don't count out an ability to reach people who might vote out of pure dedication to a party they haven't realized has been compromised.

For what it's worth, I'm going to throw your 99 onto the Powerline Forum.

yeah, why isn't anyone talking about all those nasty parts of Chicago that are like a war zone, despite all of Obama's organizing?

re: #183 Outrider

Although someone in the press stated I was apparently narcisstic because I have a blog, I found that is a way to reach a lot of people. They don't have to search for information merely click a link I provide. My reputation among my neighbors, friends, etc is good so they will listen to what I put in there. By providing links, they can verify the stories themselves. Make it easy for them.
I put up the campaign signs and wear the shirts. This provokes questions, which I answer and send these folks to my blog site, LGF, Zombies, or some others depending what I read that day and what question they asked. I have business cards with these URLs already on them.
I have had quite a few people drop back by and ask other questions and I know for a fact I have brougt a few undecideds over to McCain/Palin side. I sincerely doubt I have converted any Obama followers though. ;-)>

Kudos. What you're doing is what everyone should be doing. A million attitudes like that could change things.

But, how do we convince a million people to be like that? Very difficult.

I'm still looking for a blockbuster notion.

re: #99 zombie

In the remain two weeks of this campaign, what do you recommend we focus our energies on?

I myself am in a swing state (Ohio) and I'll just say this - if you are a Lizard, and are also located in one of these ultra-critical states. please do all you can in the next week to help push McCain over the top. If you are physically able to do so, run down to your county Republican HQ and offer your time and/or services. I don't give a hoot if you're a Repub, or not. If you are like most of us here, and see the storm clouds of an 0bama presidency roiling, you've GOT to do the right thing. Please, please get out there and help. It may be the most important action you will ever take in your life, and I'm dead serious about that. End of lecture. ;)

Someone put up a possibly explosive "race baiting" video of Obama from 1995 on youtube. It's already been taken down. Anyone know anything about it?

re: #239 The Archivist

Just photos of those rat invested tenements with no roof would be nice. A good professional collage, jpg, small enough to email with a clear 7-10 word caption.

re: #227 zombie

What I'm really looking for, and not getting so far, are tips and story ideas that, if investigated and proven true, could really blow the campaign wide open.

A candid photo of him sucking on a cigarette would be huge. Stupid but huge.

re: #229 J.S.

Don't obsessive over the "undecideds" -- mostly in polls the "undecideds" are not really "undecided" -- they just tell that to the pollsters...

I think that we have a Silent Majority that is not talking to the pollsters, or telling them they are undecided, or even saying they favor Obama, but who will vote for McCain/Palin. I told an Obama guy that called me the other day I was leaning his way, and that was a straight out lie. I would walk fifty miles to vote against him. I suspect there are a lot of others like me.

Really shocking shit! Drudge has a link to MTV's website about some raunchy cRap song by a cRap "artist (there's a shock!) about McCain/Palin.
The comments are, for the most part, encouraging!

[Link: www.mtv.com...]

re: #219 The Shadow Do

Know what? That smoking photo would be worth a fortune.

There is a gang of them out there. And with the crowd I hang around with, it wouldn't make a lick of difference and would piss them off. They feel persecuted enough already. Just saying.

In the waning days a vid of all the things Obama himself has waffled on, coupled with his "bitter clingy" comments and other gaffes interspersed with "How can you trust what Obama says"
How can you trust Obama not to tax you?
How can you...

The word You gets even undecideds attention, make the focus on how Obama will affect you.

This might be a dead end but considering that the media has gone end over end regarding McCain's USNA antics and grades along with Sarah Palin's college records including the falsified grades put out by the sub-surrogates why have we yet to see:

1. Obama's complete Harvard records including grades.

2. Obama's complete Columbia U. records, etc.

Why the secrecy over his college records?

I think lefties value arrogance above a humble man with a heart.

Are there any pix of O's wonderful housing projects?

re: #242 lummox

Prolly so. If I've served, then I'm glad to have helped.