it figures

Get used to it if The One is elected.

gov't employees
notice, I do not call them "workers"

are most liberal

we call them "troughers"
as they feed at the public trough all their lives
never doing much productive in the process

Speaking disrespectfully of the Dear Leader is a crime against the State.

I really feel for the guy. Poses a question and gets launched into the media spotlight. That's gotta suck.

question, again, is

Will McCain call out the left on this ?

will Bush appoint a special prosecutor ?

This is 3rd world type stuff.

Joe sounds like a down to earth guy. I heard he may be interested in running for office.

Direct access to driver’s license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.

Doing anything at all to get the oBrahma elected is legitimate government business these days.

This might actually help us. It shows the Dems for the thugs they are. IT also gives us ammo in case was need to delegitimize the state government of Ohio in fraud challenge.

This is Ohio type stuff.

Records show it was a "test account" assigned to the information technology section of the attorney general's office, said Department of Public Safety spokesman Thomas Hunter.

Probably some moonbat IT contractor.

I can see it now. Giant murals of TheOne, a la that stupid "Hope" poster, plastered all over our major cities.

He'll be watching.

re: #9 Racer X

Joe sounds like a down to earth guy. I heard he may be interested in running for office.

I heard him on Laura Inghram today, sounded like a straight up guy, would fit in well around here.

I hope he calls a press conference
and whines about this

assuming the media will listen

by the way
when is the republican party
gonna start advertizing for the party ?

He's getting the Linda Tripp treatment.

Don't worry, when Obama's in office he'll clean up all the corruption! Remember?!
//

The Patriot Act in play here? And if so, why? The man just asked Obama a very telling question.

Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.

Ooh, it's another game of Name That Party!

/hmmm, let me think, anyone . . . Bueller?

Where was Charles Schumer that night?

It's only going to get worse.

Are we gonna have Plumbergate?

Probably not.

re: #21 x-wing

He was busy leaking info on another bank

This is not an issue; now if someone was trying to get a State Trooper fired for driving drunk and tasering a child.... Well that would certainly need investigation.

I think McCain wants out medical histories to be stored in data bases on line. To many opportunities for snooping around.

O.T. anyone have the interveiw of Ted Nugent on Cavuto today? I can't find it.

Not only do I like Joe for asking the question. I like the way he has handled the loaded-gun follow up questions. When they say, "You would actually get a tax cut under Senator Obama's plan," he says "If somebody works hard to get ahead, I don't want their money."

This explodes liberal heads everywhere, because they have spent their lives amongst people who do not understand the integrity of the real people who populate "middle" America. Which is a large portion of "actual" America.

Big Brother Barry is watching you

For the Obamatons, the ends justify the means.

Nothing is or will be off limits or beyond the pale for them. They will respect no bounds.

If someone feels threatened by a simple plumber, we're all screwed.
I wish these tightwad leftists would stop being so damned paranoid. Sometimes a disgruntled plumber is just a plumber, especially if he is going to be squeezed by a socialist weasel.

re: #24 Desert Dog

LOL, wouldn't doubt it.

Dark, stormy days ahead.

Batten down the hatches...

Republicans are to blame for the McCain nom since I hear that Romney was better qualified, but were afraid because he is Mormon.... so now we might have a closet muslim. Just great.

got this email and its fitting in a dark way.

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

re: #23 TheMatrix31

Are we gonna have Plumbergate?

Probably not.

If this was a lib and they thought McCain or one of his surrogates was behind this, it would be the biggest event in the history of the earth. The press would be outside McCain headquarters calling for his head on a pike at the very least. But, since this is some "evil" righty, who cares about him, eh?

Shame this info comes out on a Friday night.
Hopefully it will stay active for the msm to further investigate (whacks forehead, like there will actually be a msm investigation).

New RNC ad on Senator Government ...

Thugs with computers turning peoples lives upside down for asking the "wrong" questions. Do we really want a government that is run by these people?

re: #27 x-wing

O.T. anyone have the interveiw of Ted Nugent on Cavuto today? I can't find it.

no, but I have a friend who plays Ted Nugent tunes and sounds just like them

you'd swear it was them

re: #33 Arby Dwiar

Dark, stormy days ahead.

Batten down the hatches...

Don't you mean Gird your Loins?

Certainly John McCain can find a position worthy of Joe's talent and good horse-sense within his administration.

Truth squads in Ohio!

re: #14 seagreenroom

I can see it now. Giant murals of TheOne, a la that stupid "Hope" poster, plastered all over our major cities.

He'll be watching.

If that happens, I will take to carrying a paintball gun.

re: #40 Desert Dog

Don't you mean Gird your Loins?

Well, since Barney Frank is involved, YES.

Where is the left now crying about civil rights violations?!

Truly Clintonesque.
I guess we can expect the same type of thing (and even more of it) if the Obamites invade the White House.

The Left wants vengeance. Everything that they've spent the past eight years imagining that Republicans have been doing to them, they are going to do to us....and it's only going to get worse.

re: #9 Racer X

Joe sounds like a down to earth guy. I heard he may be interested in running for office.

I'd vote for him -- couldn't be worse than 95% of the dickweeds running today . . .

re: #34 Teacake!

Stop with the 'closet Muslim' stuff. It only hurts us by wasting our time and making us look like bigots.

re: #45 Sharmuta

Where is the left now crying about civil rights violations?!

Exactly. The champions of privacy.

re: #44 esch

Well, since Barney Frank is involved, YES.

No, that's GUARD your loins...there's a difference

You can't talk about his wife
You can't talk about his ears
You can't put stuff on youtube without it being deleted
Jerome Corsi can't leave the country on a fact finding mission without being deported
You can't ask questions without being investigated.
Sorry but this guy has all the earmarks of a dictator... and being shot on the spot doesn't seem very unlikely at this point, especially if he appoints some of his creepy cronies.

The first rule of Obama Club is - you do not talk about Obama Club

re: #36 newsjunkie_ky

That is our job people...

This completely spooks me.

And on the heels of some kid who hacked into Palin's email, I'm seriously concerned what would happen if Dems had access to ... say ... our medical records.

Or tax returns.

We can't get Obama to release his medical records or birth certificate, but they can "out" a nice guy who asked Obama a question?

Scary stuff.

re: #45 Sharmuta

Where is the left now crying about civil rights violations?!

The truth is made plain.

Their hypocrisy is laid bare.

re: #31 Joan Not of Arc

If someone feels threatened by a simple plumber, we're all screwed.

You're talking about democRats - the party that plays off of victimization and fear of authority. Babies threaten them.

re: #37 JacksonTn

New RNC ad on Senator Government ...

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

McCain doesn't have executive experience either. At least none in a political sense.

re: #30 Syrah

For the Obamatons, the ends justify the means.

Nothing is or will be off limits or beyond the pale for them. They will respect no bounds.

Of course not Obama is on a mission from God....
"I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth."

Isaac Baker, Obama's Ohio spokesman, denounced Lindsay's statement as charges of desperation from a campaign running out of time*.
(It's the other guy that's bad. Look over there!)

"Invasions of privacy should not be tolerated.
(Proforma declaration of principle)

If these records were accessed inappropriately,
(Suggesting they weren't!)

it had nothing to do with our campaign
(we don't know nuttin)
and should be investigated fully," he said.

One cell doesn't know what the other cells are up to.

Well Dark Falcon, its just not a stretch since that was his first religion and as a Jewish gal, I have some concerns.

Nancy Hardin Rogers

Former director of legal services.

Democrat.

anyone remember about 10 years ago
Willie Brown was mayor of SF

got hit with a pie at a conference
actually, only a small piece barely grazed him
due to a poor throw

Bill gates, about the same month
got hit square in the kisser with one

Bill's baker got a small fine

Willie's waylayer got 6 months in the hoosegow

re: #55 hermeneutics

Here's what Joe said in the Washington Times:

"When I was face to face with him, my honest first impression was that I expected something more. I had heard so much about 'his presence' in the media that I was surprised to find that he seemed very average," Mr. Wurzelbacher wrote in a live online chat on WashingtonTimes.com

This is why I wanted to see The One when he was in my area in July (unfortunately, I was out of town). I tend to be utterly immune to political charisma and I wanted to see what he actually was like in person. I would have loved to shake his hand and say, "No, sir, actually I wouldn't vote for you in a million years. Have a nice day."

our medical records.

which the gov would basically own if they get their nationalized med care racket.

Oh- it's okay for leftists to break into Sarah Palin's email, it's okay for them to access records illegally on Joe Wurzelbacher- but don't DARE QUESTION 0BAMA!

On anything. DOn't question 0bama's

associations,
qualifications,
policies,
record,
anything.

Just keep your damn mouth shut while we force you to bend over and take it.

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Stop with the 'closet Muslim' stuff. It only hurts us by wasting our time and making us look like bigots.

Wow! How you can look past all the good within his post and pull that attack out.. I don't know. Jeez.

re: #39 Adrenalyn

Is your avatar flippin' me off or referencing my I.Q.?

//

re: #67 Sharmuta

Oh- it's okay for leftists to break into Sarah Palin's email, it's okay for them to access records illegally on Joe Wurzelbacher- but don't DARE QUESTION 0BAMA!

On anything. DOn't question 0bama's

associations,
qualifications,
policies,
record,
anything.

Just keep your damn mouth shut while we force you to bend over and take it.

don't forget, we can't ask about his minister

re: #55 hermeneutics

It is very spooky.

Government has the power of compulsion. It is fearful and dangerous.

"It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver’s license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business."

Really ?

I just have no idea who would do such a thing.

A real stumper.

re: #61 Teacake!

Well Dark Falcon, its just not a stretch since that was his first religion and as a Jewish gal, I have some concerns.

LSC is a bunch of leftist, unemployed lawyers who pick on landlords who have tenants, farmers who hire temporary workers and white Americans who are "racist."

This quasi-governmental agency should be defunded. Now.

re: #69 x-wing

Is your avatar flippin' me off or referencing my I.Q.?

//

I am generally a hostile individual when provoked
but mostly have a healthy (to juvenile) sense of humor
(I have 2 sons, I never HAD to grow up)

re: #67 Sharmuta

Just keep your damn mouth shut while we force you to bend over and take it.

Your coy icon is too appropriate.

re: #65 doppelganglander

Here's what Joe said in the Washington Times:

This is why I wanted to see The One when he was in my area in July (unfortunately, I was out of town). I tend to be utterly immune to political charisma and I wanted to see what he actually was like in person. I would have loved to shake his hand and say, "No, sir, actually I wouldn't vote for you in a million years. Have a nice day."

Yes, I've been in the presence of celebrities, and politicians/leaders, including ones I respect, but I've never felt a 'presence'. There is a psychological term for 'that feeling', unfortunately I don't remember it off the top of my head.

re: #34 Teacake!

You're a nut.

re: #65 doppelganglander

Here's what Joe said in the Washington Times:

This is why I wanted to see The One when he was in my area in July (unfortunately, I was out of town). I tend to be utterly immune to political charisma and I wanted to see what he actually was like in person. I would have loved to shake his hand and say, "No, sir, actually I wouldn't vote for you in a million years. Have a nice day."

Reminds me of The Stand, when Ray Walston laughed at The Walkin' Dude (Satan), and said, "We made such a big deal out of you!"

re: #61 Teacake!

Forget it, please. He was raised as a secular lefty. A few lessons in school (where you HAD to sign up for some religion) don't mean squat. His religion is mushy Marxism; his god is Obama.

re: #75 bosforus

Try clicking my nic.

Wait a friggin' minute here. Is this the same Ohio where the Secretary of State REFUSED to share information with the Board of Elections to better help the Board verify the authenticity of all those 600,000
plus ACORN registered voters (over 200,000 of which the Board was able to throw out because they were so clumsily faked)?
But they can find the time to use government computers to check out a guy who asked Obama a question which Obama, uncharacteristically enough, answered in a truthful manner?!
WTF?!?

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

Here's a guy with a f**kin' machine pictured in his avatar - and he's worried what someone might think about what might be said. jeez.

"When I was face to face with him, my honest first impression was that I expected something more. I had heard so much about 'his presence' in the media that I was surprised to find that he seemed very average," Mr. Wurzelbacher wrote in a live online chat on WashingtonTimes.com

How dare he question the "averageness" of Obama. That is just like shouting, "Hey, he doesn't have any clothes on", as he walks down the street.

re: #71 Syrah

It is very spooky.

Government has the power of compulsion. It is fearful and dangerous.

This is exactly why I'm a libertarian. I want a government with a smallest footprint possible.

re: #70 Adrenalyn

I thought that was covered under associations.

Every single day something comes out that heightens the importance of defeating Obama and his socialist juggernaut.

re: #81 realwest

Wait a friggin' minute here. Is this the same Ohio where the Secretary of State REFUSED to share information with the Board of Elections to better help the Board verify the authenticity of all those 600,000
plus ACORN registered voters (over 200,000 of which the Board was able to throw out because they were so clumsily faked)?
But they can find the time to use government computers to check out a guy who asked Obama a question which Obama, uncharacteristically enough, answered in a truthful manner?!
WTF?!?

ahem !

why, uh, yes it it RW
you're not insinuating anything are you old bean?

re: #81 realwest

It's easier to investigate a real citizen than an imaginary one...

re: #67 Sharmuta

Yup. And all the while we'll call you little Hitlers for wanting to tap the phone lines of people calling known terrorists abroad.

re: #83 musicman

How dare he question the "averageness" of Obama. That is just like shouting, "Hey, he doesn't have any clothes on", as he walks down the street.

Disavowal of "averageness", right?!?!

re: #40 Desert Dog

To each, their own.

"Fasten your seat belts . . ."

2012.

I'll be there.

re: #61 Teacake!

Well Dark Falcon, its just not a stretch since that was his first religion and as a Jewish gal, I have some concerns.

Your concerns are not invalid. My concern is simply that the story doesn't really do anything good for us. The hour is late, and we can't afford to dilute our efforts. We have to hit Obama on those topics where we have the greatest chance to do damage. Again, my argument is tactical and operational, not moral.

Pretty good article on Axelrod from the UK .....writer uses pretty colorful language .......
***

Tall, stooped and shambling, with a damp moustache that sometimes bears evidence of a recent meal, Axelrod is Obama's political horse-whisperer.

[Link: www.independent.co.uk...]

No U.S. media would write an article about Senator Government's handler like this ... Axelrod has been to quite a few Black Political Rodeos ....

re: #49 Dark_Falcon

correction:

Here's a guy with a f**kin' machine gun pictured in his avatar - and he's worried what someone might think about what might be said. jeez.

re: #80 Sharmuta

Try clicking my nic.

Ha ha!

My guess is state employees looking to make a quick buck selling dirt to the media.re: #14 seagreenroom

I can see it now. Giant murals of TheOne, a la that stupid "Hope" poster, plastered all over our major cities.

He'll be watching.

If they start that shit, I WILL vandalize the images.

re: #81 realwest

Realwest! Do you have any idea how Miguel from Mexico is doing?

re: #14 seagreenroom

PEACE
THROUGH
UNITY

UNITY
THROUGH
CHANGE

/oh yeah, gonna enjoy tagging that

Under Obama - agitative, anti-American speech and actions are to be protected and sanctified. Conventional, Constructionist beliefs, speech and actions are to be monitored and suppressed.

Through the racism/classism funnel.

re: #96 Pawn of the Oppressor

My guess is state employees looking to make a quick buck selling dirt to the media.

If they start that shit, I WILL vandalize the images.

But you will keep the required portrait of The One in your home free of dust.......

re: #93 JacksonTn

Pretty good article on Axelrod from the UK .....writer uses pretty colorful language .......
***

Tall, stooped and shambling, with a damp moustache that sometimes bears evidence of a recent meal, Axelrod is Obama's political horse-whisperer.

LMAO

By the way, a person who posted the Obama 'birth certificate' garbage in the last thread on this issue, and was banned, registered in November of last year with a throwaway email account (which is against the registration rules) -- and that was its only comment in an entire year.

This smells extremely fishy. There is deliberate disinformation going on here.

I had the pleasure of interrupting a conversation between an 0bama supporter and a McCain supporter today. They were speaking loudly, so I didn't mind.

I asked the 0bama supporter what made 0bama qualified. I was told 0bama registered 4 million people to vote. LMAO! Anyways- I then asked if that was enough to qualify a person for the presidency. He had no answer.

Also- since I'd just left a political appointment, I had a bag of buttons. I gave the McCain supporter a McCain button, and he put it on immediately. Go MacDaddy!

The LEADS system in Ohio is a law enforcement computer which by law can only be used for enforcement purposes, Every operator has to be logged on, so the leads administrators can tell exactly who accessed the information.

It is a misdemeanor to use the system for non law enforcement purposes.

BMV records are not the only records which can be accessed by the leads system. A criminal records check can also be done.

We need to know the names of the guilty party's! The Attorney General was a political appointment made by Governor Strickland after Mark Dann was force from office for diddling with the help.

And they say it's not dangerous for the government to collect information on you, because they would never use it against you. That's what they say, anyway.

re: #59 jcm Hey JCM, wanted to thank you publically for posting this:
[Link: northwet.blogspot.com...]
today.
Thanks again!

What is a throwaway email account?

re: #106 realwest

Hey JCM, wanted to thank you publically for posting this:
[Link: northwet.blogspot.com...]
today.
Thanks again!

My pleasure.

re: #107 hermeneutics

What is a throwaway email account?

Like Hotmail or Yahoo.

re: #96 Pawn of the Oppressor

My guess is state employees looking to make a quick buck selling dirt to the media.

If they start that shit, I WILL vandalize the images.

sorry to butt in
but I believe I called it the other dat first
when I said I would relish being the first person arrested
for pulling down one of "his" statutes

uh, by the way
am I supposed to capitalize "HIS"
when speaking of "the one" ?

If I was a nut Charles would have got rid of me years ago. I'm an older Jewish gal who is not comfortable with a guy who grew up muslim, ended up a commie and is in bed with a mother load of islamist creeps.

re: #103 Sharmuta

I had the pleasure of interrupting a conversation between an 0bama supporter and a McCain supporter today. They were speaking loudly, so I didn't mind.

I asked the 0bama supporter what made 0bama qualified. I was told 0bama registered 4 million people to vote. LMAO! Anyways- I then asked if that was enough to qualify a person for the presidency. He had no answer.

Also- since I'd just left a political appointment, I had a bag of buttons. I gave the McCain supporter a McCain button, and he put it on immediately. Go MacDaddy!

Ohhh, Sharmuta, I got a bumper sticker today which simply reads, "I AM JOE."

So cool.

re: #71 Syrah

It is very spooky.

Government has the power of compulsion. It is fearful and dangerous.

BINGO .... Give the lady a cigar.

At last an American who realizes that the guys that will pry the gun ... and probably a Bible ... from some redneck's hands is NOT a leftist moonbat, but a member of the Police or the US Armed Forces.

That's how government works in a socialist dominated society.

The socialists use the organs of the state to destroy its enemies.

Ain't outsourcing grand?

//sarc//

re: #38 WayDownSouthInBama

Thugs with computers turning peoples lives upside down for asking the "wrong" questions. Do we really want a government that is run by these people?

Of course we do. Life will be fair under Obamunnism! And who doesn't want that?

Some people have stuff. Other people don't have stuff. We take stuff from the people that have stuff, and give it to people who don't have stuff, so now everybody has some stuff. That's not redistribution. That's FAIRNESS...

/we can't lose!

The Obama campaign is well-schooled in red herrings.

re: #13 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Even if it was a test account, someone had to have a key code to sign on.
This should not be that difficult to find the person who had access and ran the check.

re: #102 Charles

By the way, a person who posted the Obama 'birth certificate' garbage in the last thread on this issue, and was banned, registered in November of last year with a throwaway email account (which is against the registration rules) -- and that was its only comment in an entire year.

This smells extremely fishy. There is deliberate disinformation going on here.

Ron Paul is the answer.....

really, I bet it is a bitter RP supporter

re: #6 Sarge1984

I really feel for the guy. Poses a question and gets launched into the media spotlight. That's gotta suck.

He seems to handle it pretty well. The guy has sand.

re: #107 hermeneutics

What is a throwaway email account?

A Yahoo, or hotmail account used to remain anonymous, I have several I use when getting stuff that requires a registration but don't want the spam I know comes with it. I give them the throw away account, they send the spam, I never check those email accounts or use them for anything else.

re: #82 unrealizedviewpoint

Here's a guy with a f**kin' machine pictured in his avatar - and he's worried what someone might think about what might be said. jeez.

It's just a smiley with a rifle. Cool down, I'm not trying to to start a fight here, I'm just trying to focus on working avenues of attack.

re: #115 jaunte

The Obama campaign is well-schooled in red herrings.

They have somehow turned "I know you are, but what am I?" into an effective rhetorical tactic. It's amazing.

re: #109 Moe Katz

It's weird. My first e-mail account was with Hotmail (since '98), and I still use it today...

re: #94 unrealizedviewpoint

correction:

Here's a guy with a f**kin' machine gun pictured in his avatar - and he's worried what someone might think about what might be said. jeez.

Correction noted. Thank you.

re: #116 notutopia
"This should not be that difficult to find the person who had access and ran the check."
Only if someone looks for it.
And no one will.

So those same computers are not to be used to spy on say people that would destroy our country, but they can be used to spy on our citizens that want to protect it. No wonder the liberals are opposed to the Patriot Act. The people that the Act is meant to spy on may be their allies.

Orwellian indeed. Shocked? No.

re: #104 gas238

The LEADS system in Ohio is a law enforcement computer which by law can only be used for enforcement purposes, Every operator has to be logged on, so the leads administrators can tell exactly who accessed the information.

It is a misdemeanor to use the system for non law enforcement purposes.

BMV records are not the only records which can be accessed by the leads system. A criminal records check can also be done.

We need to know the names of the guilty party's! The Attorney General was a political appointment made by Governor Strickland after Mark Dann was force from office for diddling with the help.

most all state and fed db's are that way
you need a case number to assign to a search
this person(s) had a level of clearance higher than average

Fairness in Redistribution
Unity of Purpose
Community through Enforcement
Knowledge of you by Database

re: #121 Pawn of the Oppressor

They have somehow turned "I know you are, but what am I?" into an effective rhetorical tactic. It's amazing.

I can further simplify such logic using the language of the interwebs.

re: #107 hermeneutics

What is a throwaway email account?

Here's a site that provides throwaway email addresses:

[Link: mailinator.com...]

They are email accounts that are used only once to register at web sites, then thrown away, to avoid being tracked.

Anyhow DF, my opinions are based on fear and this O guy strikes more fear in me than in all of my life, more than the bay of pigs incident.

THat his people went this far to ruin Joe for just asking a question and his own stupid honesty came out, is cause for big concern

re: #115 jaunte
Hey, hi juante! How are you tonight? If y'all get a chance, please check out my #106!

re: #109 Moe Katz

Like Hotmail or Yahoo.

How'd that happen? When I first reg. I tried using my yahoo, and it wouldn't take.

re: #119 jcm

A Yahoo, or hotmail account used to remain anonymous, I have several I use when getting stuff that requires a registration but don't want the spam I know comes with it. I give them the throw away account, they send the spam, I never check those email accounts or use them for anything else.

Can someone get to your information on the account, such as your registration info or credit card info, if you bought something?

I have a cox account for email. If I was to run for office, could someone easily hack into my account, or worse yet, could I be exposed to the sort of demeaning ridicule similar to that of Joe the Plumber ?

What exactly gives B-HO and the "media" the right to go after a private citizen again? Must've missed something in school about that. My theory is that it ain't gonna stop.

re: #52 Teacake!

You can't talk about his wife
You can't talk about his ears
You can't put stuff on youtube without it being deleted
Jerome Corsi can't leave the country on a fact finding mission without being deported
You can't ask questions without being investigated.
Sorry but this guy has all the earmarks of a dictator... and being shot on the spot doesn't seem very unlikely at this point, especially if he appoints some of his creepy cronies.

Corsi hangs out with white supremacists and troofers.

re: #135 Sharmuta

Corsi hangs out with white supremacists and troofers.

what about Pat Buchannon ?

2+2=5 / 2+2=5 / 2+2=5 / 2+2=5 / 2+2=5 / 2+2=5 / 2+2=5

Get ready......................

NObama!
NoBigBrother!

re: #111 Teacake!

If I was a nut Charles would have got rid of me years ago. I'm an older Jewish gal who is not comfortable with a guy who grew up muslim, ended up a commie and is in bed with a mother load of islamist creeps.

Actually, from observation, Charles doesn't get rid of anyone. They get rid of themselves, by crossing well drawn lines. I don't believe you've crossed a line. You expressed an opinion - yours. Many a Lizard got yer back.

Sorry for staying briefly though, all this ominousness is making me hungry and hungry for an LGF-sabbatical. BBL.

re: #112 hermeneutics

Ohhh, Sharmuta, I got a bumper sticker today which simply reads, "I AM JOE."

So cool.

I printed out the download of 'I AM JOE' and have it taped to my front storm door.

re: #134 6pat6

What exactly gives B-HO and the "media" the right to go after a private citizen again? Must've missed something in school about that. My theory is that it ain't gonna stop.

They have the right because the ends justify the means- but only for them.

re: #129 Charles
Charles - can and do you routinely check on newbiew who want to register with e-mail accounts provided by that site?

Funny headline of the night:

Goalie injured after tripping on Palin carpet

Hey now....

re: #133 hermeneutics

Can someone get to your information on the account, such as your registration info or credit card info, if you bought something?

I have a cox account for email. If I was to run for office, could someone easily hack into my account, or worse yet, could I be exposed to the sort of demeaning ridicule similar to that of Joe the Plumber ?

Password strength is important. If you were to use long passwords with randomized alphas and numerics as well as symbols, it would be very difficult to guess your password. Palin made the mistake of haveing a guessable password.

I like to do the keyboard mash and pound. It makes for messy but difficult to guess passwords.

re: #131 realwest

Hi Realwest, how are you doing tonight?
I hope the near-billion dollars the O is putting into the economy will help us a bit. More if it's a losing effort for him.

re: #136 Adrenalyn

what about Pat Buchannon ?

He hangs out with euro-fascists, among others.

re: #135 Sharmuta

Corsi hangs out with white supremacists and troofers.

Just so! With the MSM in the tank for BHO, our stories and sources have to as pure as new fallen snow. They won't be of course, but we still can't afford to be associated with sources of exceedingly questionable background.

re: #124 realwest

"This should not be that difficult to find the person who had access and ran the check."
Only if someone looks for it.
And no one will.

The greater crime was embracing The One.

Good night, All. Remember, if you know him could you please check in on Miguel in Mexico. Thanks.

re: #129 Charles

Here's a site that provides throwaway email addresses:

[Link: mailinator.com...]

They are email accounts that are used only once to register at web sites, then thrown away, to avoid being tracked.

Yahoo has them too. They are called "disposable" addresses.

re: #142 realwest

Charles - can and do you routinely check on newbiew who want to register with e-mail accounts provided by that site?

You can't register with an email address from that site. It's on a list with about 200 other throwaway email sites.

re: #144 Syrah

Password strength is important. If you were to use long passwords with randomized alphas and numerics as well as symbols, it would be very difficult to guess your password. Palin made the mistake of haveing a guessable password.

I like to do the keyboard mash and pound. It makes for messy but difficult to guess passwords.

Good idea. My passwords will be changed pronto.

re: #146 Sharmuta

He hangs out with euro-fascists, among others.

indeed
I just wanted to point that out

his credibility was gone a few years ago

re: #134 6pat6

What exactly gives B-HO and the "media" the right to go after a private citizen again? Must've missed something in school about that. My theory is that it ain't gonna stop.

If the end is HOPEful enough, it justifies the means.

But imagine, ladies and gentlemen, the MSM shit storm if Governor Palin's office had done something similar.

Let's just see if this gets any traction at all...

FBO

re: #134 6pat6

What exactly gives B-HO and the "media" the right to go after a private citizen again? Must've missed something in school about that. My theory is that it ain't gonna stop.

Dissension in the ranks is not tolerated.

6pat6 10 What exactly gives B-HO and the "media" the right to go after a private citizen again?

The same bs that got corsi deported from Kenya for his fact finding mission. This guy is dangerous and raising all sorts of red flags. Stupid lefites glamorize dictators and don't have a clue whats in store when it happens since they are in dreamland.

re: #13 Who Watches the Watchmen?

or someone smart enough not use his own login.

"Well he asked the wrong question." Brian Willianms

re: #13 Who Watches the Watchmen?

No it will be some records clerk in the PD or a case worker in the Social Services area that did it.

K, srsly goin ta lunch nao. BBL.

re: #51 Desert Dog

Well, according to dictionary.com

gird
1   /gɜrd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [gurd] Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), gird⋅ed or girt, gird⋅ing.
1. to encircle or bind with a belt or band.
2. to surround; enclose; hem in.
3. to prepare (oneself) for action: He girded himself for the trial ahead.
4. to provide, equip, or invest, as with power or strength.

I was thinking of #2. #3 has unfortunate (but funny) implications.

re: #135 Sharmuta
Hi Sharm! Yeah, I'd take Corsi off that list too, but you could always add:
You can't ask about his source of funds.

re: #156 Teacake!

The same bs that got corsi deported from Kenya for his fact finding mission. This guy is dangerous and raising all sorts of red flags. Stupid lefites glamorize dictators and don't have a clue whats in store when it happens since they are in dreamland.

Corsi is not someone you want to be defending. He has appeared three times on the white supremacist radio show Political Cesspool, and is a 9/11 Truther (although he's now trying to deny that).

re: #143 middlecon

Funny headline of the night:

Goalie injured after tripping on Palin carpet

Hey now....

Yeah, sounds like it happened in Palin's living room.

Nice quote here:

Legace didn’t blame Palin for the injury.

“She’s been pretty good for our game,” Legace said. “I’m starting to like her more and more. No grudge.”

"Is Joe The Unlicensed Plumber a Terrorist? " Brian Williams.

re: #163 Charles

Corsi is not someone you want to be defending. He has appeared three times on the white supremacist radio show Political Cesspool, and is a 9/11 Truther (although he's now trying to deny that).

Thank you, Charles. Teacake means well, my concern is simply that Corsi's stories won't give us the traction we need.

Making arguments like, "0bama scares me" is making an emotional argument just like the 0bamabots do in favor of him, and personally- I think our side can do better than that. The man has no qualifications, he's the most liberal Senator in Washington, his views are far from the mainstream of this country and even many in his own party. Emotional arguments do not further our cause.

re: #149 hermeneutics
Please check my #446 on the prior thread.

okay thanks unrealizedviewpoint - it is just an opinion based on fear and with that guy - from my 55 years on planet earth... this guy is really scary as well as the effect he has on the minions. Also, being Jewish, a lot of us have antennas that some would rather not look at directly.

re: #167 Sharmuta

Making arguments like, "0bama scares me" is making an emotional argument just like the 0bamabots do in favor of him, and personally- I think our side can do better than that. The man has no qualifications, he's the most liberal Senator in Washington, his views are far from the mainstream of this country and even many in his own party. Emotional arguments do not further our cause.

And his foreign policy thinking is manifestly naive.

What the media and the Obama sock puppets did to Joe W. is disturbing. For merely asking a question to Zero they exposed his personal life for all the world to see. They went as far as exposing his civil liabilities.

Is the message from the left that people who do not want their civil liabilities exposed to the public should not ask questions that might portray Barack in a negative light?

Should those in Joe Ws position be silent from now on?

/Damn this pisses me off.

They sound as bad as UCLA Medical Center ~ lol.

re: #151 Charles
Ah, great! Shoulda know you were on top of it!

We’re living in Orwell’s nightmare.

To put this into an even gloomier perspective, remember that plenty of democrats think they're choosing the lesser of two evils, much like we do.

re: #114 Pawn of the Oppressor

Some people have stuff. Other people don't have stuff. We take stuff from the people that have stuff, and give it to people who don't have stuff, so now everybody has some stuff.

What the Obama followers don't realize is that NOBODY is going to have ANY stuff. Except for thugs and politicians. They are just being used to get everything for themselves. They are not really going to give anything to the poor. Like the poor had it really great in Russia.

re: #144 Syrah

Password strength is important. If you were to use long passwords with randomized alphas and numerics as well as symbols, it would be very difficult to guess your password. Palin made the mistake of haveing a guessable password.

I like to do the keyboard mash and pound. It makes for messy but difficult to guess passwords.

WRONG! Palin was hacked because the perp looked up her vitals on line and was able to guess in about six trys one secret question.

re: #148 jcm

The greater crime was embracing The One.

PIMF, need to check the spell check....
embarrassing The One.

re: #170 Moe Katz

And his foreign policy thinking is manifestly naive.

A large number of arguments can be made against this man without resorting to emotional ones.

Charles, I actually have only heard him on Coast to Coast with George Norie, as here in New Orleans, we don't get a lot of talk radio and I guess I must have missed some of your posts.

But none the less, he was deported because of his mission and that's what I was commenting on more than him.

re: #112 hermeneutics

Ohhh, Sharmuta, I got a bumper sticker today which simply reads, "I AM JOE."

So cool.

Joe.

re: #115 jaunte

The Obama campaign is well-schooled in red herrings.

/So that's the noxious stink in the air wherever they appear.

re: #174 bosforus

To put this into an even gloomier perspective, remember that plenty of democrats think they're choosing the lesser of two evils, much like we do.

just spit out my coffee on that statement

re: #175 yah

What the Obama followers don't realize is that NOBODY is going to have ANY stuff. Except for thugs and politicians. They are just being used to get everything for themselves. They are not really going to give anything to the poor. Like the poor had it really great in Russia.

Enough with your "history" and "facts" and "understanding of human nature". I want CHANGE WE NEED!

And if they ask me to vote five times, I'll need beer. And change for smokes.

/I don't actually smoke

re: #108 jcm

Great imagery. Considering the fraudulent cc contributions from far way places outside the US.

I don't freaking believe what's going on in the last thread telling people not to post 'birth certificate' crap here.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

re: #178 Sharmuta

A large number of arguments can be made against this man without resorting to emotional ones.

Indeed.

57% of Jews are going to vote for Obama. In fact every Jew is know is going to vote for him , with the exception of some in my immediate family. Party identity is far more important to these people than survival. Believe me. They will sacrifice Israel rather than be scorned at a cocktail party.

re: #176 JeremyR

I stand corrected.

Still, nothing says you can't use the keyboard mash and pound on the secret questions.

Paranoia is your friend when it comes to security.

re: #167 Sharmuta

Making arguments like, "0bama scares me" is making an emotional argument just like the 0bamabots do in favor of him, and personally- I think our side can do better than that. The man has no qualifications, he's the most liberal Senator in Washington, his views are far from the mainstream of this country and even many in his own party. Emotional arguments do not further our cause.

How about "this man's personal history, legislative track record, and poor understanding of economics and foreign policy, make me fear for the future of my country and its citizens".

re: #171 Gus 802

What the media and the Obama sock puppets did to Joe W. is disturbing. For merely asking a question to Zero they exposed his personal life for all the world to see. They went as far as exposing his civil liabilities.

Is the message from the left that people who do not want their civil liabilities exposed to the public should not ask questions that might portray Barack in a negative light?

Should those in Joe Ws position be silent from now on?

/Damn this pisses me off.

See #155. God forbid if there is unlimited power in Washington DC with a media propaganda machine.

Dark Falcon. I am not defending Corsi. Commenting that BOs people had him deported. I guess I dont have the gift of articulation to make that point clear.

#174
my impression of democrats is

they always vote democrat, no matter what
they have Kool Aid in their veins

and as I ask all my democrat friends and associates

just when the f&&& did McCain become a Republican

and not one can answer with anything other than stunned silence

the silence of the lambs

re: #187 pat

Unfortuantely they will if Barry is elected.

re: #169 Teacake!

okay thanks unrealizedviewpoint - it is just an opinion based on fear and with that guy - from my 55 years on planet earth... this guy is really scary as well as the effect he has on the minions. Also, being Jewish, a lot of us have antennas that some would rather not look at directly.

Scary Obama surely is. With his ties to an unrepentant terrorist and his desire to take our money, he is a monster who we must stop. We must hammer him on his ill intentions to everyone we know. On this, you and I are on the same page.

re: #167 Sharmuta

I saw a talking head recently trying to claim that Obama was a "centrist" and the guy he was talking to failed to mention the voting record to put the lie to that claim. People have to stay on their toes when the other side is engaging in open lying.

re: #28 JohnAdams

I loved that answer. That kind of dumbfounds them. Kirsten Powers was filling in for Alan tonight on H&C, with Dick Morris. She kept repeating that if you made less than $250K you'd get a tax cut. None of them get it. I DON'T WANT THEIR MONEY.

re: #182 Adrenalyn

just spit out my coffee on that statement

Sorry about that.

Pat
The rare PIMF. Every Jew I personally know is voting for Obama.

re: #185 Charles

I don't freaking believe what's going on in the last thread telling people not to post 'birth certificate' crap here.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

They drank the Kool-Aid?

re: #144 Syrah

Don't forget firewalling your email accounts seperately from each other.
I use separate email accounts for finances than for personal than for business. Each is firewalled.

re: #187 pat

57% of Jews are going to vote for Obama. In fact every Jew is know is going to vote for him , with the exception of some in my immediate family. Party identity is far more important to these people than survival. Believe me. They will sacrifice Israel rather than be scorned at a cocktail party.

There goes the myth of high Jewish IQ.

Serious campaign research here.

Obama's law firm records?
No.
Obama and ACORN?
No.
Obamas legislative records?
No.
Obama's thesis?
No.

Photo essay; Palin before and after campaign makeover.

I'm so damn proud of the state of investigative journalism in American I could just puke.

re: #167 Sharmuta You are absolutely right about that - there is MORE than enough factual material out there that if enough voters knew about it, Obama would be waaaay behind in the polls.
Hell for that matter if enough voters knew about it, it'd be Clinton vs. McCain.
BTW - do you still - in all seriousness - think the PUMAS can really give McCain another 3-4 million votes or is that just some PUMAS puffing up their numbers?

re: #185 Charles

Desperation.

re: #187 pat

Never underestimate the power of the private vote...

After, we can all "say" whatever we want; it's what happens within the confines of the polling place that are most important.

re: #181 NY Nana

Even if the campaign is secretly encouraging pursuit of these wild stories, it doesn't help that the Republicans are eager to run after them.

re: #197 bosforus

Sorry about that.

it's ok
it's decaf

I am going to bed soon
so I can get up early and go fish

with #1 son

Kinda glad I don't live there anymore - it's turning into a banana republic!

re: #185 Charles

Some persons like to feign ignorance.
Others like to test authority.
Some can't read.

George Will famously commented that Bill Clinton, while not the worst President in our history, was certainly the worst man we ever had.

Based on Obama's campaign so far, I would say he is shaping up to be not only the worst President, surpassing Mr. Peanut and pre-Civil War Buchanan, but also the worst man. Corruption levels in an Obama Administration will make Latin America, the Soviet Union, and Asia look like nothing more lunch money thugs.

I'm doing what I can to make sure this person does not get elected.

re: #185 Charles

I don't freaking believe what's going on in the last thread telling people not to post 'birth certificate' crap here.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Maybe a few heads on pikes on the castle walls will send the message.

re: #174 bosforus

To put this into an even gloomier perspective, remember that plenty of democrats think they're choosing the lesser of two evils, much like we do.

I get that from my parents and siblings about how Sen. Obama is the lesser of two evils. They seem just as perplex about my vote in the up coming election.

re: #191 Teacake!

Dark Falcon. I am not defending Corsi. Commenting that BOs people had him deported. I guess I dont have the gift of articulation to make that point clear.

My apologies, I did not understand that you meant it that way. So modified, your point is entirely valid.

re: #190 Idle Drifter

The left wing police/nanny state. Death by a thousand cuts.

I hope that foreign leaders are taking note. An Obama White House will have a strange relationship with foreign leaders in the long run. Case in point might be those like low class Susan Rice.

re: #114 Pawn of the Oppressor

Of course we do. Life will be fair under Obamunnism! And who doesn't want that?

Some people have stuff. Other people don't have stuff. We take stuff from the people that have stuff, and give it to people who don't have stuff, so now everybody has some stuff. That's not redistribution. That's FAIRNESS...

/we can't lose!

Are you going to insist that I break out my Soviet joke Book?

a la:

......they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work!........

kinda stuff! :)

#185 Charles

honestly, not trying to defend them but

you have different shades here
like in society
there are millions of people who don't want 0bama
and of those, a certain percentage do not want him
but for the wrong reasons

and they are (kinda) on our side

re: #13 Who Watches the Watchmen?

The company I work for does IT work for the state government. I've had my background checked twice, one for the agency I work for and again by the agency who owns the building the datacenter is located in.

While I won't rule out the possibility its probably someone in their IT dept that did it, as an IT professional I'm appalled by the lack of ethics. Partisanship shouldn't cloud your judgment when you're in a position of the public trust. Weather you're a civil service employee, contractor, or even a temp.

Then again, I held a security clearance in the Army and worked in a SCIF for two years. I know if I were to pull a stunt, there's the possibility of being caught and ruining my career for the rest of my life. That is if I don't go to jail over it.

If it is an IT worker, they don't represent us as a whole. There are plenty of us who understand the repercussions of disclosing information that can be damaging.

re: #212 Idle Drifter

I get that from my parents and siblings about how Sen. Obama is the lesser of two evils. They seem just as perplex about my vote in the up coming election.

Have they read 1984?

Pat, modern day Jews are stupid. The survival need is obliterated. But that they feel PRESSURED is a way their brain is saying one thing and their rational mind is getting in the way. Jews want to fit in and not be killed off yet again and so they make the same mistake all over again rather than be true to their intuition

re: #207 Adrenalyn

Awesome. Enjoy!

re: #189 Pawn of the Oppressor

How about "this man's personal history, legislative track record, and poor understanding of economics and foreign policy, make me fear for the future of my country and its citizens".

It's not to say that the man doesn't scare me- it's just this line of arguing against electing him is not as effective as arguing with facts and logic.

Take my conversation today with the 0bama supporter. I used my line of questioning, "what makes him qualified" and after a BS answer I asked again, to which I got no response. It sure as hell got me further than resorting to emotions to make my case against him.

re: #201 Moe Katz

If you heard the circumlocution you would not say that. My favorite is the Doctors telling me that Universal Health Care will be good for their institutions and clinics, because they will not have to rely upon the complex paperwork of Insurance Agencies. Mind you, these are people that make $400 Gs a year now.

The key issue to the "Joe the Plumber" story, which the media often attempt to hide, is that Obama walked down Joe's street and up Joe's driveway where the now-famous exchange took place.

Many think this exchange took place at a "campaign rally" and Joe was a McCain "plant."

The guy was standing in his driveway, and asked a man running for national office a simple question.

How disgraceful that the "mainstream" media and the Obama campaign have attempted to smear this private citizen who asked a question to a candidate who walked up his driveway.

We are all "Joe the Plumber."

re: #212 Idle Drifter

Oh wait, I forgot. Bush is the all-knowing domestic spying program terrorist. They've probably got an answer for any Orwell argument.

Can Joe sue? He could get enough money to start that business. Wouldn't that be ironic.

Good thing this journalist is from UK .... cuz you know they would not put this in a paper in the U.S. .....

***

Mr Obama, son of milk-white mother from Kansas and a coal-black Kenyan who had deserted his family when the future senator for Illinois was a baby, was still searching for his identity as a black man in America. Michelle Obama, the descendant of slaves and whose family had lived through the civil rights era. Marrying her marked the end of Mr Obama's search.

At first, she has said, she was reluctant to become romantically involved. "Here we are, the only two black people here, and we are dating," she would tell Obama's biographer. "I'm thinking that looks pretty tacky."
She eventually relented and they went to a Baskin-Robbins, followed by a kiss. "It tasted of chocolate," Mr Obama - a fat-phobe who shuns ice cream - later recalled. There more than a touch of poetic licence in the tale - there was actually a substantial number of black employees at the progressive law firm and colleagues say that she single-mindedly pursued her future husband.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

MEchelle lied about them being the only two blacks at the office .....

re: #210 Billy Hank

George Will famously commented that Bill Clinton, while not the worst President in our history, was certainly the worst man we ever had.

Based on Obama's campaign so far, I would say he is shaping up to be not only the worst President, surpassing Mr. Peanut and pre-Civil War Buchanan, but also the worst man. Corruption levels in an Obama Administration will make Latin America, the Soviet Union, and Asia look like nothing more lunch money thugs.

I wonder when, or if, the MSM will report any of it?

re: #206 jaunte

IMO it is the desperation of trying to find a silver bullet to stop the wolfman. Nothing rational appears to be working.

re: #211 jcm

It worked for Drakula.

I just saw something bizarre, on Entertainment Tonight. Andy Griffith and Ron Howard, reprising their roles from The Andy Griffith Show, pimping for Obama. It's a video on the Funny Or Die site.

re: #203 realwest

Hillary had 18 million votes. Even a small percentage of those going to McCain can be the difference between victory and defeat. Go read a few PUMA blogs if you're uncertain these folks mean to defeat 0bama. Because they're more pumped to pull the lever for McCain than some on our side are.

re: #185 Charles

re: #185 Charles

I don't freaking believe what's going on in the last thread telling people not to post 'birth certificate' crap here.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

I don't know - I had to leave the Peace Thread becuse there was too much fighting going on down there.

re: #223 William

Lib friend at work chided me about Joe getting "owned." I asked him, "Obama approached him, he asked Obama a tough question and the media and the Obama campaign "owned" him. Is that the type of government you want, where asking a tough question gets you "owned."

He was literally speechless...

re: #201 Moe Katz

There goes the myth of high Jewish IQ.

Yup.

Identity politics will be the death of countless Jews.

Again!

Slow learners they are!

re: #228 Viking6

I think your analysis is correct. Panic is going to be terribly unproductive at this point, and concentrating those wild stories (as opposed to focusing on his actual record and stated plans) is a big mistake.

I also agree. We are at the stage where the Bush DWI came out, except Bush was a point ahead in some polls, but behind in most. And that is still there. The Media still have the big hit ready to roll on the last weekend. I have no idea what it is, but the game is way out of McCain's league.

re: #226 JacksonTn

I can see the price of ice cream going up under the leadership of these neurotic liberals. Perhaps double in price.

/Fat tax, junk food tax, beef taxes (don't forget beef mean "global warming" to these basket cases).

re: #225 HelloDare

Can Joe sue? He could get enough money to start that business. Wouldn't that be ironic.

Who would he sue?
Besides, like it or not, Joe is a celebrity now. No case.

re: #226 JacksonTn

Good thing this journalist is from UK .... cuz you know they would not put this in a paper in the U.S. .....

***

Mr Obama, son of milk-white mother from Kansas and a coal-black Kenyan who had deserted his family when the future senator for Illinois was a baby, was still searching for his identity as a black man in America. Michelle Obama, the descendant of slaves and whose family had lived through the civil rights era. Marrying her marked the end of Mr Obama's search.

At first, she has said, she was reluctant to become romantically involved. "Here we are, the only two black people here, and we are dating," she would tell Obama's biographer. "I'm thinking that looks pretty tacky."
She eventually relented and they went to a Baskin-Robbins, followed by a kiss. "It tasted of chocolate," Mr Obama - a fat-phobe who shuns ice cream - later recalled. There more than a touch of poetic licence in the tale - there was actually a substantial number of black employees at the progressive law firm and colleagues say that she single-mindedly pursued her future husband.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

MEchelle lied about them being the only two blacks at the office .....

Well maybe not. Not if she perceived the others to be "Uncle Toms". /

Obama supporters, bye and large, are both malicious and misinformed. They are frothed up by our new Pravda media (MSNBC, NYT, CNN, AP, Daily Kos, et al.) then sent out to bleat in front of cameras.

Add in Rev. Wright , Ayers and ACORN and you've got yourself some serious moonbat mental-redbull.

Oh. Many of them are also VERY well-fed.

(weed makes you hungry)

I dunno, maybe "white America" is gung ho for the guy just to convince themselves they aren't racist? This guy is in no way qualified .... he has no experience in the military, running a business, economics, nada other than making shady deals with creeps.

re: #237 Gus 802

I can see the price of ice cream going up under the leadership of these neurotic liberals. Perhaps double in price.

/Fat tax, junk food tax, beef taxes (don't forget beef mean "global warming" to these basket cases).

We've got the cow methane problem solved, beef's okay.

Urgh. Why is this whole frigging process an opportunity for the media to play kingmaker? It makes me sick. This is U.S. politics we're talking about. Literally, the quality of people's lives hang in the balance and people want to know about Joe the Plumber's tax history.

AGH!

re: #238 unrealizedviewpoint

Who would he sue?
Besides, like it or not, Joe is a celebrity now. No case.

His civil rights were violated. His records were accessed illegally, it looks like. He should contact a lawyer and see what his potions are.

re: #232 yah

re: #185 Charles

I don't know - I had to leave the Peace Thread becuse there was too much fighting going on down there.

LOL

And they say the Patriot Act is an abuse of civil liberties!

Oh, that's right, it doesn't target people who question the Obamassiah.

re: #231 Sharmuta

Theoretically that is true. But the Hillary factor has not shown up in a single poll. But it may be there. I think the pollsters ignore certain groups.

re: #241 Teacake!

nada other than making shady deals with creeps.

Well that's one useful skill....

re: #226 JacksonTn

Great a match truly made in heaven...Two opportunists with a grudge about
Democratic Capitalistic America. Great couple to envision in the White House.

re: #187 pat

Pat,

I am a Jew and so is NY Grampa....we would not vote for him for a billion $$$$$$$$ tax free to each of us.

And I have friends, Jewish and non-Jewish, who are as scared of him as we are, as they read and watch non-leftie sites...hard to find, I will admit.

This Jew would spit in Obama's smirking, smug, arrogant face if given the chance.

Getting our 4 kids to wake up? We still haven't given up.

The Jews are so much in the pocket of the Demonrats from early in the last century...the current Jews do not yet recognize that the Demonrats are so different from the Party of old that their immigrant great grandparents, grandparents, parents, etc belonged to...it frightens me to think of what it would take for them to wake up. I damned well pray that voting for Hussein will not be it...they still can wake up...

re: #214 Gus 802

The left wing police/nanny state. Death by a thousand cuts.

I hope that foreign leaders are taking note. An Obama White House will have a strange relationship with foreign leaders in the long run. Case in point might be those like low class Susan Rice.

IF Sen. Obama makes it to a second term do you think he'll pull a Hugo Chavez? El-Presidente for life?

/////Heaven help me, I think a fox ran over my grave!

re: #242 jcm

I won't ask how they pipe in the methane to that bag.

re: #185 Charles

I don't freaking believe what's going on in the last thread telling people not to post 'birth certificate' crap here.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

20,000 Lizards out there- they all get the word yet? If you're outta town for a few days you can miss a lot!

re: #231 Sharmuta

Hillary had 18 million votes. Even a small percentage of those going to McCain can be the difference between victory and defeat. Go read a few PUMA blogs if you're uncertain these folks mean to defeat 0bama. Because they're more pumped to pull the lever for McCain than some on our side are.

They just have to be in the right states.

re: #252 Gus 802

I won't ask how they pipe in the methane to that bag.

The range land of Montana just won't look the same will it?

Time to inspect the inside of my eye lids.

Good Night All

re: #247 pat

Oh for pete sake. The polls are weighed. I put a story about polling in the spinoffs on the overnight thread. They get their sample and then tinker with the numbers. In fact- the article I linked was a Q & A where it's basically admitted they have no idea what they're doing.

From the article:
The attorney general's office is investigating if the access of Wuzelbacher's BMV information through the office's Ohio Law Enforcement Gateway computer system was unauthorized, said spokeswoman Jennifer Brindisi.

"We're trying to pinpoint where it came from," she said. The investigation could become "criminal in nature," she said. Brindisi would not identify the account that pulled the information on Oct. 16."

How hard could it be to determine an IP address and the person who was there on that day?

re: #255 jcm

Yikes! Throught the stomach no less. Could you imagine the increased potential for infection of the cattle?

In Montana it might make a tempting target for target practice.

/Boom!

re: #244 Sharmuta

His civil rights were violated. His records were accessed illegally, it looks like. He should contact a lawyer and see what his potions are.

We've had countless examples of similar breeches and nothing ever happened to anyone.

re: #235 jaunte

I agree. It is the cool head that prevails in the thick of fight. I am fairly certain that McCain will will win probably by 4 to 8 electoral votes. We just have to keep focused on the real issues and do what we can to turn the table on the media and others who are and will continue to demoralize those who oppose Barry. My biggest fear is not some much the economic disaster that will happen but the fact this election will, no matter who wins, create even a greater division our country. We need to stop thinking about them and us and think about the US.