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Open | Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:55:00 pm PDT

Quiet minds cannot be perplexed or frightened but go on in fortune or misfortune at their own private pace, like a clock during a thunderstorm.

Robert Louis Stevenson

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1 DesertSage  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:56:09pm

Ahhh....a fresh thread.

2 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:57:35pm

Haven't really been following JMV's posts for long. What has she said to cause Lizards to behave like outraged baboons throwing poop?

3 Karridine  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:57:50pm

re: #751 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Exactly. I'm not going to look up the definition, but to me the word secure means safe. So please, someone, anyone tell me where this "right to privacy" is. I don't see it.

I'm no SCOTUS, but a perceived 'right to privacy' is an integral part of 'unreasonable search'...

Just as Supreme Court rulings have limited gummint's power to 'go fishing' for something which could be angled to prosecute you or imprison you, so there IS a basis for the citizen's 'right' to privacy in LAWFUL, PRIVATE matters.

"Officer, I'm a lawful private citizen going about my lawful, private business. You've stopped me and enquired and I've answered you in a civil manner. May I go?"

IF an officer of gummint has REASONABLE SUSPICION that you have committed a criminal act, then you are in a PUBLIC situation, and can be temporarily arrested legally until said officers clarify whether or not your actions ARE 'legal'...

And all the while you are to be considered innocent unless and until proven guilty...

4 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:57:55pm

Yes, made it at last. RLS was a really good writer too. Loved his Treasure Island book. Trying to remember off the top of my head what else he wrote. (The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde was another one.)

5 Last Mohican  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:58:05pm

Mmm, new thread smell.

6 gmsc  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:58:15pm

For those who weren't reading the last thread, October 26 is Hillary Clinton's birthday. Happy Birthday, Hillary, and thank you very much to her supporters for their support of McCain in this election!

7 BlueCanuck  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:59:05pm

re: #2 Moe Katz

JMV is an eeyore. Always quoting the worst polls and linking to real lefty rags. Always sobbing about how McCain is going to lose the election.

*spit*

8 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:59:07pm

Ahhh, a new thread in which to stretch out and relax.

Kicks off shoes, unbuttons top collar button, and undoes belt buckle. Ahh! Everyone else comfortable? ;)

9 Adina in Judea  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:59:32pm

Thanks to the Hillary supporters who are voting for McCain - Happy Birthday Hillary!

10 Moe Katz  Sat, Oct 25, 2008 11:59:45pm

re: #7 BlueCanuck

JMV is an eeyore. Always quoting the worst polls and linking to real lefty rags. Always sobbing about how McCain is going to lose the election.

*spit*

Could be. What I saw tonight seemed inocuous.

11 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:00:03am

re: #7 BlueCanuck

JMV is an eeyore. Always quoting the worst polls and linking to real lefty rags. Always sobbing about how McCain is going to lose the election.

*spit*

I don't see her sobbing one bit. More like gloating, actually.

12 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:00:29am

re: #7 BlueCanuck

JMV is an eeyore. Always quoting the worst polls and linking to real lefty rags. Always sobbing about how McCain is going to lose the election.

I thought that JMV wants McCain to lose.

It's the impression I've gotten, anyway.

13 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:00:35am

Happy Birthday, Hillary!

What is it now, 66? 67? You don't look a day over 65!

14 middlecon  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:00:48am

I hear so much about PUMAS...any PUMAS on LGF tonight?

15 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:01:34am

Lord President For Life Obama hates Jews.

/who could have guessed that?

16 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:01:54am

re: #8 FurryOldGuyJeans

Got the remote?

*assumes the Al Bundy pose beside FOGJ*

17 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:01:57am

re: #15 Killian Bundy

Lord President For Life Obama hates Jews.

/who could have guessed that?

Any Muslim?

18 Last Mohican  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:01:59am

re: #14 middlecon

I hear so much about PUMAS...any PUMAS on LGF tonight?

Well, I did register as a democrat this year and vote for Hillary in the primary. Do I count?

19 solomonpanting  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:02:16am

re: #13 Karridine

Happy Birthday, Hillary!

What is it now, 66? 67? You don't look a day over 65!

Sixty-one.

20 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:02:24am

re: #14 middlecon

I hear so much about PUMAS...any PUMAS on LGF tonight?

I bet there are some. They sure seem ready to beat BHO! And really like Sarah.

21 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:02:24am

re: #16 BlueCanuck

Got the remote?

*assumes the Al Bundy pose beside FOGJ*

Yeah, I got you. ;)

22 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:03:06am

re: #19 solomonpanting

Sixty-one.

... woopsie!

/heh!

23 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:03:28am

re: #13 Karridine

Happy Birthday, Hillary!

What is it now, 66? 67? You don't look a day over 65!

While few of us are crazy about Hillary, let's play nice and not anger the PUMAs, OK?

Oh, I refuse to mention a lady's age, but if it should slip out, I take no responsibility for that.

24 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:03:31am

re: #17 FurryOldGuyJeans

Any Muslim?

/seriously, they're going to get a four year window to eliminate Israel

25 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:03:55am

re: #19 solomonpanting

Sixty-one.

Is that her age or the number of cankles?

Joyous celebration of your natal day, Senator Clinton.

26 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:04:18am

Gawd, SNL is stupid!

27 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:05:04am

re: #14 middlecon

I hear so much about PUMAS...any PUMAS on LGF tonight?

re: #25 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is that her age or the number of cankles?

There were, but I think they just stormed out.

28 Last Mohican  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:05:15am

re: #26 non-lib Nina

Gawd, SNL is stupid!

Oops, I forgot to watch it again tonight. That makes almost 200 times in a row.

I gotta set an alarm or something.

29 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:05:38am

re: #27 gmsc

There were, but I think they just stormed out.

Oh, pffffffft! ;)

30 gop_patriot  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:05:55am

JMV is an Obama supporter, who comes to visit LGF with Democrat talking points in hand, all the while pretending to be neutral and above the political fray.

Mr. Sandman is just a troll.

Goodnight, everyone. :) See y'all tomorrow.

31 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:06:01am

re: #26 non-lib Nina

Gawd, SNL is stupid!

Well, Sunday afternoon in beautiful, suburban Bangkok is BRILLIANT, so I'll be back in a while, when the chatter has turned to many things, antelopes and canaloupes, and cabbages & kings...

32 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:06:16am

re: #28 Last Mohican

Why? So you could intentionally miss it.

/stopped watching it in the 80's.

33 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:06:28am

re: #28 Last Mohican

Oops, I forgot to watch it again tonight. That makes almost 200 times in a row.

I gotta set an alarm or something.

I have an alarm set so I don't watch the show, even by accident.

34 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:06:45am

Yeah, stupid singing skit. BHO and the Dems all doing stupid songs. We the comedians actually!

35 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:06:58am

I remember looking at the RCP averages in January. At the time I was thinking that it would be better for Obama to win since it looked like Hillary always have higher averages over McCain. Things of course turned around.

36 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:07:09am

re: #31 Karridine

Farewell for now walrus. See you around later.

37 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:07:41am

re: #33 FurryOldGuyJeans

Be thankful.

38 solomonpanting  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:07:42am

re: #25 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is that her age or the number of cankles?

Joyous celebration of your natal day, Senator Clinton.

At least Karridine was correct. She doesn't look a day over sixty-five.

39 Dianna  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:07:51am

re: #25 FurryOldGuyJeans

Is that her age or the number of cankles?

Joyous celebration of your natal day, Senator Clinton.

Could we knock off about the lady's legs? Mine aren't anything to write home about, and my mom's are worse.

The problem with Mrs. Clinton has nothing to do with her looks (and her hair, make-up and clothes were absolutely brilliant during the campaign).

40 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:08:07am

Must read my posts more before posting.

"always have had higher"

41 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:08:14am

re: #36 BlueCanuck

Hey, Blue!

BBIAB

42 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:08:27am

re: #31 Karridine

Sunday afternoon in Manila right now is quite simply boiling. (: Have fun.

43 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:08:34am

re: #30 gop_patriot

JMV is an Obama supporter, who comes to visit LGF with Democrat talking points in hand, all the while pretending to be neutral and above the political fray.

Mr. Sandman is just a troll.

Goodnight, everyone. :) See y'all tomorrow.

I respectfully beg to differ on your assessment, in part. While one is indeed a troll, the other is a troll-op. ;)

44 MrSnuggles  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:08:37am

so the other day joe biden accuses mccain of "protesting too much". um, joe, hypocrit much? at the first sign of a toughh interview with real questions joe cries like a baby. how dare you ask if obama is marxist! joe, thou doth protest too much.

45 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:08:44am

Glenn Beck presents: The Obama National Anthem


Gateway Pundit: Even Russia Sees It-- The US Media Is Openly Supporting Obama

This week Newt Gingrich said the way the media elites treat Governor Sarah Palin is like the way the Polish Communists used to treat opposition leader Lech Walesa. Newt even compared the US media to Pravda.

Now Russia agrees.
A Russian elections committee sees major bias by the US media in this year's national elections.
Via Ace of Spades and The National Post:

Russia's Central Elections Committee has also assigned its Centre for the Study of Election Technology to review the U. S. election campaign.

A preliminary report prepared by the group, after studying U. S. media coverage on the NBC, CBS and ABC television networks since September, has concluded Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential candidate, has a "hidden advantage."

A preliminary report obtained by the Russian daily online newspaper Kommersant concludes the U. S. television networks devoted more time to Republican candidate John McCain, but "the material that makes up that time difference can be assessed as negative."

The Russian study also said Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential pick, has been subjected to more criticism than her Democratic counterpart, Senator Joe Biden.

It adds that when the presidential candidates' platforms are described, Mr. Obama's is described last, to make it look better, and when platforms are compared, "Obama's is presented preferable."

The observations appear to ape western criticisms of Russia's elections in which international observers have complained Russia's television networks are overwhelmingly pro-Kremlin and offer unbalanced and unfair coverage of opposition candidates.

Mark Levin has more on the media's open and brazen in their attempts to influence the outcome of this election.

Even liberal Bob Kerrey sees the obvious media bias this year.

46 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:09:04am

re: #31 Karridine

; )

47 srb1976  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:09:31am

re: #39 Dianna

Could we knock off about the lady's legs? Mine aren't anything to write home about, and my mom's are worse.

The problem with Mrs. Clinton has nothing to do with her looks (and her hair, make-up and clothes were absolutely brilliant during the campaign).

When the time to comes to point out to Her Royal Stoutness that she can do anything she wants to do with her life Hillary (as much as I don't like her politics) will be right after sarah as an example. Gotta give her that much

48 LEGION  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:09:36am

Rainy on the east coast at 3 am here- another blah windy leaf strewn day coming up.

49 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:10:22am

re: #29 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh, pffffffft! ;)

Sometimes I just need a good pfffffffting.

50 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:10:26am

re: #44 MrSnuggles

so the other day joe biden accuses mccain of "protesting too much". um, joe, hypocrit much? at the first sign of a toughh interview with real questions joe cries like a baby. how dare you ask if obama is marxist! joe, thou doth protest too much.

Well, if even Joe thinks it's that obvious, why ask? It's like asking if water is wet.

51 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:11:09am

re: #42 laZardo

Rainy-wet, but strong cool winds blowing scattered high clouds, so BKK is just a jewel today, and the neightborhood kids drag mine off to watch "Doraemon" at the theater!

52 Mel Lono  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:11:10am

re: #44 MrSnuggles

Joe Unfolded.. Love to watch them squirm. Joe.. who writes your stuff?

53 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:11:16am

re: #49 gmsc

Sometimes I just need a good pfffffffting.

Would a piffle and a humbug make you feel better? ;)

54 LEGION  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:11:17am

Joe Biden- "Joe the Dumber"

55 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:12:03am

re: #50 suboptimal

Or if BHO likes red stars?

56 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:13:02am

re: #48 LEGION

Rainy on the east coast at 3 am here- another blah windy leaf strewn day coming up.

Quebec City, a bit further along the upper right hand corner, 51 degrees and raining, leaves all over the place...

57 MrSnuggles  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:14:41am

re: #55 non-lib Nina

that is no the red star i knew. i was only 8 years old when it was used as a commie symbol. the red star is not commie, thats just republican lies!

58 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:16:01am

re: #55 non-lib Nina

Or if BHO likes red stars?

I can picture him digging through a box of Lucky Charms, yelling, "These starts are the &%$ing color!"

59 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:16:30am

re: #57 MrSnuggles

re: #57 MrSnuggles

Really?

60 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:16:56am

Coming up next! Is Marxist the next M-Word? What are the hidden meanings and its sociological implications?

Liberals want to know -- and write.

/Sarcasm

61 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:17:30am

re: #58 suboptimal

sed 's/starts/stars/'

62 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:18:51am

re: #58 suboptimal

I can picture him digging through a box of Lucky Charms, yelling, "These starts are the &%$ing color!"

No yellow moons or green clovers, eh?

63 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:20:31am

re: #58 suboptimal

I can picture him digging through a box of Lucky Charms, yelling, "These starts are the &%$ing color!"

the wrong ------- color

As soon as this upgrade is done, I'm going to bed.

64 Opilio  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:20:41am

re: #61 suboptimal

sed 's/starts/stars/'

how 'bout sed 's/s //'
Should work -- and far more cryptic.

65 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:20:42am

re: #58 suboptimal

I can picture him digging through a box of Lucky Charms, yelling, "These starts are the &%$ing color!"

"Lucky Charms" is code for racist. Think about it, have you ever seen any black marshmallows in there?

66 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:20:46am

re: #62 FurryOldGuyJeans

I quite liked the balloons with the stars in 'em.

67 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:20:52am

re: #13 Karridine

Happy Birthday, Hillary!

What is it now, 66? 67? You don't look a day over 65!

She is MY AGE?

Awwwwwwwwwwwww, &#9835 puddin' &#9834

See my avatar!

68 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:21:11am

re: #62 FurryOldGuyJeans


Damn lucky leprechauns =)

69 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:21:23am

re: #65 gmsc

Nah, it's racist against the Irish. Why do you think they have a stereotypical leprechaun as its mascot?

70 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:21:42am

re: #67 LeePro

She is MY AGE?

Awwwwwwwwwwwww, ♫ puddin' ♪

See my avatar!

Way to hide your age, there, LeePro!
;)

71 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:22:36am

re: #66 laZardo

I quite liked the balloons with the stars in 'em.

That wasn't the lucky charms I knew.

72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:23:05am

Ladies and Gentleman, take my advice, pull down your pants, and slide on the ice.

I'm outta here, heading over to youtube to relive my ute by watching music videos from the 80's, back when MTV actually played music.

If I insulted anyone and did not apologize earlier, I'm sorry.

Except for JustMyView and Mr. Sandman. You two dolts deserve every bit of the insults you get here. Hell, you invite them!

73 Dianna  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:23:20am

re: #69 laZardo

Nah, it's racist against the Irish. Why do you think they have a stereotypical leprechaun as its mascot?

As an American of about (approximately) 3/4 Irish descent, I think I should be offended.

However, I'm a conservative, so I'm more likely to be amused.

74 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:24:00am

re: #69 laZardo

Nah, it's racist against the Irish. Why do you think they have a stereotypical leprechaun as its mascot?

It all makes sense now! For example, there's noting potato-related in that cereal, so they're obviously making fun of the Irish Potato Famine!

75 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:24:05am

re: #71 FurryOldGuyJeans

It could be worse. I could admit to really liking the rainbows.

...

Ah, crap.

76 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:24:13am

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Bye, have fun. Love the 80's vids too!

Night all!

77 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:24:55am

re: #71 FurryOldGuyJeans

That wasn't the lucky charms I knew.

Are you throwing Lucky under the balloon? (Or whatever leprechauns throw things under)

78 Dianna  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:24:57am

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Look up John Waite, I ain't Missing You at All from 1984; accept no substitutes.

Cheers!

79 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:25:13am

re: #74 gmsc

No doubt started by agents working for General Mills, no doubt!

80 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:25:19am

re: #55 non-lib Nina(Black Bottom Riff)

Black sickles, thick hammers
Joe spins, Barack yammers
America is getting set to say
NObama, no red star today!

John got a Commie token
Arms wrenched, spirit unbroken
America now sees the real thing
Palin is not momentary fling!

Who wants to 'spread the wealth around'?
Americans know to fear that sound!
"We're from the government, its true
and we've come to just HELP YOU!'

So back off, sickle, hammer
America wants NO Obama
But this party system shows
America's about to come to blows
When and where nobody knows
America can weather any storm
If the red star hammer sickle GOES!

Froonius Q. Bandersnatz, "Shibboleths, Memes and Talking Points", circa 1946

81 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:25:29am

re: #70 gmsc

Way to hide your age, there, LeePro!
;)

Who's hiding? I'm prouder'n hell! ! !

82 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:26:07am

re: #73 Dianna

As an American of about (approximately) 3/4 Irish descent, I think I should be offended.

However, I'm a conservative, so I'm more likely to be amused.

I'm a Heinz 57 of indeterminate origin, so can I be offended for you?

83 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:26:11am

re: #64 Opilio

how 'bout sed 's/s //'
Should work -- and far more cryptic.

I'll keep it obvious. Then, when I get asked about it, I can spit back, "Can't you read simple *&%$ing English?"

84 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:26:22am

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ladies and Gentleman, take my advice, pull down your pants, and slide on the ice.

I'm outta here, heading over to youtube to relive my ute by watching music videos from the 80's, back when MTV actually played music.

Those were the days...

85 non-lib Nina  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:26:25am

re: #80 Karridine


Nice. : )

86 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:26:37am

re: #74 gmsc

It all makes sense now! For example, there's noting potato-related in that cereal, so they're obviously making fun of the Irish Potato Famine!

Odd, I was just looking at the International Herald Tribune this minute and saw the headline To counter problems of food aid, try spuds.

87 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:27:14am

re: #65 gmsc

"Lucky Charms" is code for racist. Think about it, have you ever seen any black marshmallows in there?

Once, but they were kind of crunchy.

88 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:27:35am
89 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:29:00am

re: #88 gmsc

How many Lucky Charms marshmallows can you name in 2 minutes? (Here's a slightly different version of the same quiz.)

I'll name that one Bob, that one Jimmy, this one over here I'll call Suzette.

90 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:29:14am

re: #69 laZardo

Nah, it's racist against the Irish. Why do you think they have a stereotypical leprechaun as its mascot?

Irish is a race now?

Oh, goody! I get to be offended now, too!

91 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:31:30am

re: #90 LeePro

Just waiting here for the typical Canadian stereotype to show up so I can be offended too. :)

92 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:32:29am

re: #89 suboptimal

I'll name that one Bob, that one Jimmy, this one over here I'll call Suzette.

I was always partial to Fred and Bertha, myself. ;)

93 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:32:39am

Wow. Just read the topic of the last thread. I simply don't know what to say.

Without going through all 1000+ comments, any interesting revelations or news regarding the story?

94 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:32:46am

re: #91 BlueCanuck

Just waiting here for the typical Canadian stereotype to show up so I can be offended too. :)

Take off, eh?

95 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:33:02am

re: #91 BlueCanuck

Blame Canada!

96 Mel Lono  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:33:53am

re: #93 TheMatrix31

Nothing to see here, move along.

97 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:33:57am

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ladies and Gentleman, take my advice, pull down your pants, and slide on the ice.

Dr. Sidney Freeman, stated on 2 different episodes of M*A*S*H - it was his very last line on the last episode of M*A*S*H.

I'm outta here, heading over to youtube to relive my ute by watching music videos from the 80's, back when MTV actually played music.

OK, a few favorites:

An '80s version of a much older song

My favorite '80s video

My 2nd favorite '80s video

My 3rd favorite '80s video

98 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:34:02am

re: #65 gmsc

"Lucky Charms" is code for racist. Think about it, have you ever seen any black marshmallows in there?

Isn't there a joke in there somewhere about white chocolate and Halloween and dirty faces?

99 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:34:36am

re: #91 BlueCanuck

Just waiting here for the typical Canadian stereotype to show up so I can be offended too. :)

TIm Horton's, eh?

100 Fierce Guppy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:35:13am

I'm in dire need of enlightenment on how the exchange rate system works. The New Zealand dollar is a floated currency and has dropped from US 80 cents in March to US 56 cents now, and the Aussie dollar is in a decidedly sad state, too. It's painful to watch. Mr Procrastination is whispering into my ear saying to put off building my high-end computer enthusiast's rig (yet again) until another time. Can anyone please explain in simple terms, or even better, point me to an online tutorial that will give me a clue about why the NZ dollar is heading towards peso territory instead of the U.S dollar?

101 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:36:33am

re: #98 LeePro

Isn't there a joke in there somewhere about white chocolate and Halloween and dirty faces?

Not in my box of Lucky Charms there isn't. I didn't even get the toy car that was on the front. What a rip-off!

102 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:37:02am

re: #94 Moe Katz
You don't count. ;)

re: #95 Gus 802
Loved the song.

re: #99 gmsc

Great coffee.

/try harder everyone, still not offended.
//must be my scales.

103 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:37:37am

re: #91 BlueCanuck

Just waiting here for the typical Canadian stereotype to show up so I can be offended too. :)

It's right there in your nic! Doubled for color! ! !

You blankety-blank blue canuck, you!

/loves {Blue}

104 Spirit93  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:37:55am

re: #91 BlueCanuck

Just waiting here for the typical Canadian stereotype to show up so I can be offended too. :)

eh?

105 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:38:44am

re: #97 gmsc

2nd and 3rd are "Not available in my country." ]=

106 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:38:52am

re: #100 Fierce Guppy

I'm in dire need of enlightenment on how the exchange rate system works. The New Zealand dollar is a floated currency and has dropped from US 80 cents in March to US 56 cents now, and the Aussie dollar is in a decidedly sad state, too. It's painful to watch. Mr Procrastination is whispering into my ear saying to put off building my high-end computer enthusiast's rig (yet again) until another time. Can anyone please explain in simple terms, or even better, point me to an online tutorial that will give me a clue about why the NZ dollar is heading towards peso territory instead of the U.S dollar?

This

was written about the Canadian dollar, which has also plunged, and most of the analysis is applicable.

107 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:40:28am

Crap, I'm back. My headphones are F'ed up. Worst part is they only play in my left ear. Go figure.

108 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:41:03am

re: #97 gmsc

Wow! Your 2nd and 3rd choices are NOT allowed in Thailand...

What were they, gmsc?

109 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:41:05am

re: #107 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Crap, I'm back. My headphones are F'ed up. Worst part is they only play in my left ear. Go figure.

Blame it on Bush, obviously. ;)

110 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:41:32am

re: #107 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Flip'em over...Yep.

111 Fierce Guppy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:41:49am

re: #106 Moe Katz

Thank you, Moe Katz.

112 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:42:17am

re: #107 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You try rebooting? Mine did that and it was the wiring. Not having a soldering gun or the motivation I just tied a knot until the right ear worked again.

113 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:42:21am

re: #100 Fierce Guppy

I'm in dire need of enlightenment on how the exchange rate system works. The New Zealand dollar is a floated currency and has dropped from US 80 cents in March to US 56 cents now, and the Aussie dollar is in a decidedly sad state, too. It's painful to watch. Mr Procrastination is whispering into my ear saying to put off building my high-end computer enthusiast's rig (yet again) until another time. Can anyone please explain in simple terms, or even better, point me to an online tutorial that will give me a clue about why the NZ dollar is heading towards peso territory instead of the U.S dollar?

But can't you get your computer parts from the far east? Your NZ dollar shouldn't have fallen as far against Asian currencies as it has against the USD.

114 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:42:40am

re: #108 Karridine

Wow! Your 2nd and 3rd choices are NOT allowed in Thailand...

What were they, gmsc?

"Take On Me" by A-ha (#2) and "Money For Nothing" by Dire Straits (#3).

115 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:42:41am

re: #109 FurryOldGuyJeans

Blame it on Bush, obviously. ;)

Great idea!

116 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:42:49am

re: #106 Moe Katz

I blame Soros.

117 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:43:09am

re: #107 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Crap, I'm back. My headphones are F'ed up. Worst part is they only play in my left ear. Go figure.

Nah, your EARS are losing their stereophonic abilities!

118 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:43:31am

re: #112 Gus 802

You try rebooting? Mine did that and it was the wiring. Not having a soldering gun or the motivation I just tied a knot until the right ear worked again.

Actually, no. BBIAB.

119 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:44:00am

re: #114 gmsc

I thank you, LaZardo thanks you...

120 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:44:09am

re: #117 Karridine

Nah, your EARS are losing their stereophonic abilities!

Maybe they're just stereophobic?

121 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:44:20am

re: #114 gmsc

Yes A-ha was a good group and that was a good video.

/couldn't get your link here either, but I was able to find it. :)

122 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:44:53am

re: #119 Karridine

re: #114 gmsc

Open bracket in my previous post prevented me from pointing you guys to #84 for my favorite 80s video. [=

123 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:45:57am

re: #112 Gus 802

You try rebooting? Mine did that and it was the wiring. Not having a soldering gun or the motivation I just tied a knot until the right ear worked again.

For me and my Microsoft sidewinder it was dirty contacts in the plug receptacles and the switches causing intermittent audio problems. Some spray-on contact cleaner and a lot of swearing did wonders for me. ;)

124 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:46:27am

re: #116 BlueCanuck

I blame Soros.

Yeah, but the Loonie will be back real soon, I'm convinced of it.

125 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:46:58am

re: #119 Karridine

I thank you, LaZardo thanks you...


UPDATE: the problem seems to be in the double linkage (from LGF to YouTUBE) because I just ordered it up and its playing as I type ($ 4 nothing)

126 pbird  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:47:08am

re: #39 Dianna

Could we knock off about the lady's legs? Mine aren't anything to write home about, and my mom's are worse.

The problem with Mrs. Clinton has nothing to do with her looks (and her hair, make-up and clothes were absolutely brilliant during the campaign).

This seems to be a hard point for some to understand. Her looks ain't her problem. Its something else.

127 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:47:48am

re: #124 Moe Katz

Hope so. Got a convention in the states in March I am going to. Nothing worse than paying 50% more than fellow americans.

128 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:47:53am

re: #121 BlueCanuck

Blue, are you ignoring me 'cause I offended you?

129 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:48:14am

re: #102 BlueCanuck

You don't count. ;)

re: #95 Gus 802
Loved the song.

re: #99 gmsc

Great coffee.

/try harder everyone, still not offended.
//must be my scales.

OK, time to bring out the big guns of Canada offense!

Oh, and do you have any problems anywhere in the world? Blame Canada!

130 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:48:18am

re: #127 BlueCanuck

Hope so. Got a convention in the states in March I am going to. Nothing worse than paying 50% more than fellow americans.

Pack a lot of peanut butter sandwiches.

131 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:49:53am

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

132 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:50:02am

re: #128 LeePro

Sorry, got distracted. ;)

/Actually the blue is conservative colours up here, one reason why I picked it.
//And if you are blue from cold, you didn't dress right for the spring/summer.

133 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:50:02am

re: #123 FurryOldGuyJeans

I've used sandpaper or an eraser for that. Worse is when it happens on the female plug. I had that in an older Yamaha stereo -- I just stopped using it. I know it's easy enough to fix.

Gets tiring you know with these cheapo electronics. I've been through 5 Logitech laser mice. All because of a 99 cent swith.

134 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:50:42am

All because of a 99 cent swith switch.

/There I go again.

135 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:51:16am

re: #126 pbird

This seems to be a hard point for some to understand. Her looks ain't her problem. Its something else.

Lust for power has given Hillary an ugly soul, and it shows on the outside. No amount of spackle and spray paint is going to cover it up.

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:51:34am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

Linkie, please! Between this rumor and the one about Mullah Omar in Afghanistan assuming room temperature, this is not such a bad time. :)

137 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:51:36am

So is this thing gonna have traction or what? I sent the newspaper some feedback.

138 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:51:42am

re: #129 gmsc

What? Offended by Trey Parker and Matt Stone? They offend everyone and make up a few people to offend when they get bored.

139 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:51:52am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

Mossad. (;

140 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:52:54am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

Maybe in his arrogance Ahmadi-nejad visited that 'Mystery Ship' with the killer payload, and now he's come down with the same 'Mystery Illness that killed the Somali pirates!'

141 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:54:05am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

/linky?

142 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:54:21am
143 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:54:30am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

With any luck he'll...kick the bucket. Actually just read something about low blood pressure in the Jerusalem Post.

Kind of surprised that haven't claimed someone is trying to poison him like they do in banana countries.

144 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:54:58am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

/and he's not in charge of Iran anyway

145 Nightwatch  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:55:51am

I sit out in the backyard this night, yes for you that must know, Merlot, yet, I will not throw flame or counter logic,or raving spittle, I am quiet and counting down the days of this... so...DAMN long an election cycle that we have not seen before. So many things have been posted here, the long and wide of the battle for the IDEALS, the ESSENCE of what we are as a NATION, as AMERICANS. My wife tells me this is wasted time on sites as this, I say this is the new way to voice our pleasure or dis-pleasure with the day to day workings of our country in a way that the MSM will never be able to convey, AND THEY FEAR IT!

THEY FEAR IT!
Thank you Charles for letting me work out my demons here, I have to withdraw from this site until the election is over due to my lack of well.. "calmness?" when posting . The older Lizards know how we stand in the next 10 days, I leave it to those of this site with a mallet far bigger and better swung than my own to hammer the point home.
I remain, respectfully

NIGHTWATCH

146 LeePro  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:56:20am

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

G'nite, Lizards!

147 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:57:05am

re: #138 BlueCanuck

What? Offended by Trey Parker and Matt Stone? They offend everyone and make up a few people to offend when they get bored.

I remember when there was a big controversy about the episode where Spielberg and Lucas rape Indiana Jones. I hadn't seen that episode, or even heard about it, when a friend of mine wanted to talk about. He asked, "Don't you think South Park has gone too far?" I replied, "Always! Are we talking about anything specific?"

I think the funniest thing they ever did was have Cartman, upon learning that having Tourette's Syndrome means you can swear anytime, anywhere, without anyone getting upset, starts singing, "I've Got a Golden Ticket!"

148 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:57:26am

re: #146 LeePro

Night {LeePro} see you next time, and weet dreams.

149 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:57:26am

re: #146 LeePro

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

G'nite, Lizards!

Nite, Lee!

150 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:58:14am

Goodnight, Lee, be well.

151 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:58:27am
152 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:58:33am

Has littleoldlady made an appearence yet? I wanted to congratulate her after that Phillies win. She probably thought it was worth the hour and a half rain delay.

153 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:58:38am

re: #142 Adina in Judea

Aide says Iran's Ahmadinejad falls ill under strain of post

Poor baby.

"Every human being can face exhaustion under such a workload."

Lord President For Life has a simple solution for that.

/cocaine, when is his drug dealer going to surface?

154 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:59:36am
155 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 12:59:56am

re: #146 LeePro

Niiiight!

156 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:01:01am

re: #153 Killian Bundy

"Every human being can face exhaustion under such a workload."

It takes a lot of effort to find new and exciting ways to deny the Holocaust and threaten Israel verbally on a regular basis.

Ahmadinejad can't keep up with the workload.

157 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:01:10am

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

Egads! eBay buyer faces libel action after leaving negative feedback

Wait a minute. You can't delete feedback once given. The comments supposedly given don't sound realistic either. If we had the item number we could check up on it.

158 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:01:39am

re: #112 Gus 802

You try rebooting? Mine did that and it was the wiring. Not having a soldering gun or the motivation I just tied a knot until the right ear worked again.

Actually, no. BBIAB.re: #118 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Actually, no. BBIAB.

I'm back. Crud, tried that. Still only works in my left ear, although I flipped them around so now I only hear them in my right ear. Conservative headphones, capiche?

159 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:02:49am

re: #143 Gus 802

With any luck he'll...kick the bucket. Actually just read something about low blood pressure in the Jerusalem Post.

Kind of surprised that haven't claimed someone is trying to poison him like they do in banana countries.

Something like
"The Baha'is! THEY are poisoning our leader! The Baha'is-"

"But sir, even the Shah, when he was in power, trusted ONLY a Baha'i to serve as his personal physician, because he knew that a Baha'i could be trusted NOT to poison him or kill him!"

"Don't confuse me with the facts! It MUST be those lousy Baha'is!"

160 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:02:55am

re: #158 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I've had that happen to a lot of headphones I owned. I'm a clumsy fellow who constantly gets them 'snagged' and 'pulled out' on places, so it's probably wear combined with a damaged connector.

161 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:02:56am

re: #124 Moe Katz

Yeah, but the Loonie will be back real soon, I'm convinced of it.

I resent that!

162 suboptimal  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:03:20am

re: #158 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm back. Crud, tried that. Still only works in my left ear, although I flipped them around so now I only hear them in my right ear. Conservative headphones, capiche?

Real conservative headphones would let you hear both sides and make up your own mind.

163 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:03:33am

You know, I can't think of a single issue where Lord President For Life Obama would be beneficial to this country. And his admitted drug use precludes him from holding a security clearance.

/what's not to like, why are people voting for him?

164 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:03:54am

re: #158 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Roger. That can be a drag. I went shopping for new ones and the choices are slim at the local e-marts around here.

165 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:04:07am

re: #159 Karridine

If the news is true, I'm guessing Mossad.

166 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:04:30am

re: #161 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I resent that!

You said it, I didn't ;)

167 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:04:51am

re: #131 Adina in Judea

Apparently, Ahmadinejad is seriously ill. I'm starting to wonder if someone got to him in some way. They're not saying anything about his actual illness other than Iranian officials confirming that he's sick and that he will heal "eventually."

Really? Any more good news?

168 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:05:41am

re: #161 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I resent that!

I resemble that remark! :P

169 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:06:02am

re: #165 laZardo

If the news is true, I'm guessing Mossad.

Knowing how Mossad operates I think maybe a Mullah problem. Mossad would not be so clumsy as to leave him at body temperature.

170 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:06:57am

re: #169 FurryOldGuyJeans

Knowing how Mossad operates I think maybe a Mullah problem. Mossad would not be so clumsy as to leave him at body temperature.

He's also facing a re-election challenge. That could be adding to his stress, or he may be seeking a pretext not to run again.

171 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:07:10am

re: #159 Karridine

"We must cull the servants and the doctor! Immediately!"

172 Globular Cluster  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:07:24am

GIRD YOUR LOINS!

173 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:07:40am

re: #169 FurryOldGuyJeans

Room temp, GaiJin, ROOM temperature! :D

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:08:10am

re: #170 Moe Katz

He's also facing a re-election challenge. That could be adding to his stress, or he may be seeking a pretext not to run again.

Nah, I like the assassination idea better, thank you very much. Quit spoiling our fun by bring up facts, you party-pooper you. ;)

175 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:08:30am

Four years ago, Arafat fell ill around the time of the U.S. Presidential election.

Interesting timing if Ahmadinejad is critically ill.

I'm not sure how ill he is, but he hasn't been seen since Tuesday.

If he flies to France, it will be pretty freaky.

176 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:08:35am

re: #143 Gus 802

With any luck he'll...kick the bucket. Actually just read something about low blood pressure in the Jerusalem Post.

Kind of surprised that haven't claimed someone is trying to poison him like they do in banana countries.

I believe Iran is a pistachio country. I bought a bag a few months ago and it was from Iran. Which is appropriate, since it's run by nuts.

177 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:09:21am

re: #173 Karridine

Room temp, GaiJin, ROOM temperature! :D

Read it again, please. I said Mossad would not make a mistake and leave him at body temp. Mossad would ensure he was room temp. ;)

178 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:09:27am

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nah, I like the assassination idea better, thank you very much. Quit spoiling our fun by bring up facts, you party-pooper you. ;)

Sorry, I'm actually too tired to come up with anything imaginative. I couldn't even think of Martha Stewart's name a few minutes ago.

179 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:09:52am

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nah, I like the assassination idea better, thank you very much. Quit spoiling our fun by bring up facts, you party-pooper you. ;)

Speculation is fun, but probably unproductive on OUR parts... but may indeed indicate a sea-change behind the curtains...

Bears watching

180 middlecon  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:10:11am

Very rarely would I agree with Chris Dodd but the bailout package is really a mess. Can they just pass a bill for $700 billion in spending for one thing and decide to spend it other ways? Not a good precedent.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

181 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:10:17am

re: #156 Adina in Judea

threaten Israel verbally on a regular basis.

/trust me, in about three or so months, a year tops, they're going to attack, balls to the wall, river to the sea, and Lord President For Life Obama won't lift a finger, he's trading Israel for his election, you'd better be ready and self-sufficient

182 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:10:19am

re: #179 Karridine

Bears watching

And so are we.

183 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:10:49am

re: #176 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Or figs.

"Parviz, put the poison in the fig like I told you!"

184 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:10:55am

BlueCanuck

I do remember Harry Anderson mentioning 2 funny stories that happened to him in Canada:

1) During the summer break after Night Court's first season, when it was already going to be a hit, Harry Anderson (Judge Stone on the series) was traveling with his magic act as part of a show with several other performers. One night, the show manager says, "Tomorrow night, we're going to be performing in Canada for a crowd that will speak very little English, so you'll need to translate your act as best you can."

Harry had never been to Canada before, and knew very little about it. He spent most of that night translating his entire act into Spanish. Oops.


2) During a stop of the tour in Vancouver, BC, the check-in clerk, of the hotel at which the troupe was staying, recognized Harry from Night Court, and was thrilled to meet him! He mentioned to Harry that, in town, there was even a "Night Court" bar! At the time, Night Court was on right after Cheers, so Harry asked, "Don't you mean a 'Cheers' bar?" The night clerk said, "No, believe it or not, I mean a 'Night Court' bar."

Harry settled into his room (by this time it's fairly early in the morning, about 2 AM), and Harry, not being able to sleep, goes back down to the clerk and asks for directions to the bar. Harry follows them, and sure enough, there's a bar with the "Night Court" logo on it. The bar was closed at the time, but looking through the window, he could see caricatures of himself and the rest of the Night Court cast on the wall. He could also see a cleaning woman in there, so he knocked on the door.

Without even stopping her work, the cleaning woman shouts, "We're closed!" Harry knocks again, and the cleaning woman looks up, rolls her eyes, and shouts, "We're closed!" again.

Harry positions himself better under the light so she can see who it is that's knocking. Finally, the cleaning woman puts down her mop, walks over to the door, opens it and says, "Yes?!?"

Harry explained, "I'm sorry to bother you. I realize you're closed, but I'm Harry Anderson, the guy who plays the judge on Night Court."

The cleaning lady responded, "I know who you are. We're closed." And shut the door!

185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:11:13am

re: #160 laZardo

I've had that happen to a lot of headphones I owned. I'm a clumsy fellow who constantly gets them 'snagged' and 'pulled out' on places, so it's probably wear combined with a damaged connector.

Yep, same here. Been there, done that. I need to look for some wireless ones.

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:11:16am

re: #179 Karridine

Speculation is fun, but probably unproductive on OUR parts... but may indeed indicate a sea-change behind the curtains...

Bears watching

Now you too, eh? Spoiling our fun with facts! FIE on you! ;)

187 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:11:22am

Arafat's illness as described in Wikipedia:

"First reports of Arafat's treatment by his doctors for what his spokesman said was the 'flu' came on October 25, 2004, after he vomited during a meeting. His condition deteriorated in the following days..."

The freakiness potential for Ahmadinejad's illness just went up.

188 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:12:06am

re: #169 FurryOldGuyJeans

Probably. Iran's economy isn't in such good shape as of late, so there could be a lot of domestic pressure as well.

189 Miles  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:12:07am

Help me!

With only 9 days left, I've been told that the most important vote is for a Conservative Congress, who will combat either of the two liberal Presidential nominees.

Does anybody have a list of truly Conservative (not just Republican) Congressmen and women, whom I should be voting for?

Time is now critical.

190 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:12:08am

re: #162 suboptimal

Real conservative headphones would let you hear both sides and make up your own mind.

LOL!

191 Fierce Guppy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:12:14am

re: #113 Moe Katz

But can't you get your computer parts from the far east? Your NZ dollar shouldn't have fallen as far against Asian currencies as it has against the USD.

Retail outlets that ship computer parts internationally are very rare. A US company called TigerDirect is one I know of. Then there's the difficulty and expense of getting a replacement for a faulty item. Everything's expensive in a high end PC. Too much risk involved. Also, I have a deep fear of my credit card number being used for extracurricular activities should I give it to anyone living in the East.

192 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:12:53am

re: #191 Fierce Guppy

Retail outlets that ship computer parts internationally are very rare. A US company called TigerDirect is one I know of. Then there's the difficulty and expense of getting a replacement for a faulty item. Everything's expensive in a high end PC. Too much risk involved. Also, I have a deep fear of my credit card number being used for extracurricular activities should I give it to anyone living in the East.

Try eBay?

193 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:13:06am

re: #182 Moe Katz

And so are we.

Yeah, I saw that pun potential as I was clicking the 'post this comment' button

/on a different note, I have a coruscating, crenellated ouroboros growing slowly larger in my visual field... anybody know what causes this? About the 3rd time in last 5 days...

194 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:14:13am

re: #187 Adina in Judea

Could be stress. Considering that if a certain person by the name of Obama wins the election I am pretty certain what Israel's next option should be between election day and January 20. It involves several squadrons of F-16s or Sufas.

195 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:15:18am

re: #188 laZardo

Probably. Iran's economy isn't in such good shape as of late, so there could be a lot of domestic pressure as well.

And it only promises to get worse as Iran was the instigator of OPEC production cuts to offset falling oil prices. A double whammy of less money for less oil being sold. Oh boo hoo for Aminejad.

196 victor_yugo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:15:56am

re: #184 gmsc

One thing I like about Harry Anderson is how down-to-earth he is. He never missed an opportunity to laugh at himself on Night Court.

197 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:16:44am

re: #196 victor_yugo

One thing I like about Harry Anderson is how down-to-earth he is. He never missed an opportunity to laugh at himself on Night Court.

He was a hoot on Cheers as well.

198 nnorb  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:16:50am

re: #157 Moe Katz

Hi,

Here is the transaction on eBay that the negative leading to the lawsuit was over.

Item number: 380061414077

If you click on the sellers feedback number the negative is about 15 or 20 down,

Norb

P.S. I make my full time on eBay, know how to get around that puppy.

199 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:17:53am

re: #183 Gus 802

Or figs.

"Parviz, put the poison in the fig like I told you!"

Go Fig-ger... : )

200 middlecon  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:18:01am

re: #189 Miles

Help me!

With only 9 days left, I've been told that the most important vote is for a Conservative Congress, who will combat either of the two liberal Presidential nominees.

Does anybody have a list of truly Conservative (not just Republican) Congressmen and women, whom I should be voting for?

Time is now critical.

A list of Cognressman YOU should be voting for? LOL..do you work for ACORN you can only vote for one Congressman :)

201 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:18:01am

re: #196 victor_yugo

One thing I like about Harry Anderson is how down-to-earth he is. He never missed an opportunity to laugh at himself on Night Court.

re: #197 FurryOldGuyJeans

He was a hoot on Cheers as well.

This should bring back a few memories.

202 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:18:34am

re: #184 gmsc

In reference to #2, yep that's a typical Canadian. "You're who? And your point is?" We do have rabid fan boys, but most of us don't go giggly or foolish over t.v. stars.

/or any other stars as a matter of fact.

203 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:19:32am

It starts as a gold-green pinpoint of a triangle, then grows in length and in thickness, with the Z-shaped segments coruscating blue and gold, making it difficlut to see the things I'm looking at, and slowly (15-20 minutes) covering so much of my visual field that it takes itself out of my sight and I'm back to normal once again...

The pulsing snake-of-triangles is covering the left half of my visual field now, nearing the edges of sight... I can't Google anything on this...

Help?

204 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:19:35am

re: #198 nnorb

eBay 404 :(

205 Molon Labe  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:19:41am

re: #100 Fierce Guppy

There's a huge demand for dollars right now because hundreds of hedge funds are having to sell their assets (denominated in yen and other currencies they borrowed at low interest rates) and convert to dollars.

Once this "deleveraging" process is complete the dollar will crash.

206 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:21:31am

re: #198 nnorb

Hi,

Here is the transaction on eBay that the negative leading to the lawsuit was over.

Item number: 380061414077

If you click on the sellers feedback number the negative is about 15 or 20 down,

Norb

P.S. I make my full time on eBay, know how to get around that puppy.

And here's the actual feedback the buyer gave, not what the Times article said:

Item was scratched, chipped and not the model advertised.
chris_read.2008 ( 6 )
Oct-03-08 03:33

*
Reply by onsalexuk (Oct-25-08 01:04):
PUBLICLY STATING HE RECEIVED F700V, PICTURE IS OF F700V. MALICIOUS FALSEHOOD.

SAMSUNG F700 UNLOCKED (#380061414077) GBP 155.00

207 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:22:21am

re: #202 BlueCanuck

In reference to #2, yep that's a typical Canadian. "You're who? And your point is?" We do have rabid fan boys, but most of us don't go giggly or foolish over t.v. stars.

/or any other stars as a matter of fact.

Upon hearing that latter story, Johnny Carson described the cleaning lady's attitude as, "I'm not treating you this way despite who you are, it's because of who you are!" Both Johnny and Harry agreed occasional "takedown" experiences like that are very valuable.

208 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:24:06am

re: #199 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Go Fig-ger... : )

RACIST!

/ironically, that'd be my term for those of us Filipinos that think we're 'gangsta.' (;

209 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:24:21am

re: #198 nnorb

Hi,

Here is the transaction on eBay that the negative leading to the lawsuit was over.

Item number: 380061414077

If you click on the sellers feedback number the negative is about 15 or 20 down,

Norb

P.S. I make my full time on eBay, know how to get around that puppy.

Norb- You need to post the link to your EXCELLENT youtube video! I was going to post it a few hours ago on your behalf, but couldn't find it.

210 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:24:32am

re: #201 gmsc

This should bring back a few memories.

I have 57 episodes of Cheers sitting on my TiVo waiting to be watched. I haven't had ANY time lately.

211 Moe Katz  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:24:41am

re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans

eBay 404 :(

Link worked for me.

212 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:24:46am

Cripes, it's a Samsung. On on my 3rd Samsung 204B monitor which started out as being new. Not too happy with Samsung although they replace it without much of a problem.

This last one is refurbised however.

Suing for an Ebay comment -- lame.

213 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:26:11am

re: #210 TheMatrix31

I have 57 episodes of Cheers sitting on my TiVo waiting to be watched. I haven't had ANY time lately.

I have been plowing through all the seasons currently available on DVD, disc 2 of season 7 as I type this, third episode on the disc (Jumping Jerks).

214 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:26:52am

re: #208 laZardo

Are you still in the PI?

215 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:27:31am

Pardon my typos, I'm sipping on a Canadian blend.

216 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:28:16am

re: #214 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Yep. q= Lived here pretty much non-stop since the early 90s, though I did spend 2004-2006 in Sacramento for community college.

217 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:28:56am

re: #215 Gus 802

Pardon my typos, I'm sipping on a Canadian blend.

I'm not sure what that is, but according to what I've found on Google, it doesn't sound appetizing.

218 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:30:21am

re: #211 Moe Katz

Link worked for me.

Sure helps if I enable java (blech).

219 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:30:49am

re: #217 gmsc

I'm not sure what that is, but according to what I've found on Google, it doesn't sound appetizing.

Moooooo! No actually I should have said whisky -- VO. El cheapo.

220 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:31:32am

re: #217 gmsc

I'm not sure what that is, but according to what I've found on Google, it doesn't sound appetizing.

Canadian Blended Scotch, not that ^^^^^ ;)

221 nnorb  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:32:03am

re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans

eBay 404 :(

re: #209 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Not a problem,

Here is the link to the video,

Are You Still UNDECIDED?

If anyone wants to see our site on eBay, I am not sure the terms here on LGF on that, but clicking on my name brings you to our private site which has links to our ebay site.

Thanks for all the support on the video. 924 views in the first 24 hours. Not too bad,

Norb

222 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:32:04am

re: #216 laZardo

I used to go there during my USN days. We'd fly into Clark AFB about three to four times a month. What's the local opinion of Americans now?

223 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:33:22am

re: #220 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not scotch, rye. Big difference. I can drink scotch, but I can't drink rye.

/*sniff* I am a bad Canadian.

224 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:33:35am

re: #163 Killian Bundy

You know, I can't think of a single issue where Lord President For Life Obama would be beneficial to this country. And his admitted drug use precludes him from holding a security clearance.

/what's not to like, why are people voting for him?

Not true. His association with radicals/groups wanting to overthrow the US Government precludes him from holding a security clearance.

225 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:33:35am

re: #216 laZardo

Yep. q= Lived here pretty much non-stop since the early 90s, though I did spend 2004-2006 in Sacramento for community college.

Ahh, Subic Bay and Cubi Point....those were the days. Carousing in Olongapo.

226 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:34:22am

re: #223 BlueCanuck

Not scotch, rye. Big difference. I can drink scotch, but I can't drink rye.

/*sniff* I am a bad Canadian.

Like I should be concerned about a difference?!? I am a rum man myself. ;)

227 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:34:27am

re: #213 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have been plowing through all the seasons currently available on DVD, disc 2 of season 7 as I type this, third episode on the disc (Jumping Jerks).

Is that the one where they want to skydive to promote Cheers?

228 gmsc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:34:47am

Good night, all!

I've been watching all the "Damien/Omen" movies over the past few days, so I'm going to watch part 3, which has just started.

It involves a guy who is pure evil, and wants to destroy American and the world. He does so running for president, and . . .

. . . on second thought, I think I'll just go to sleep.

229 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:36:14am

re: #227 TheMatrix31

Is that the one where they want to skydive to promote Cheers?

I stopped watching for the night before I started that episode. I have been watching Cheers for only the past 10 hours. ;)

230 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:37:04am

re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ahh, Subic Bay and Cubi Point....those were the days. Carousing in Olongapo.

Did somebody say Olongapo? One of the worst days of my life was leaving Cubi.

231 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:37:05am

re: #216 laZardo

I used to go there during my USN days. We'd fly into Clark AFB about three to four times a month. What's the local opinion of Americans now? re: #228 gmsc

Good night, all!

I've been watching all the "Damien/Omen" movies over the past few days, so I'm going to watch part 3, which has just started.

It involves a guy who is pure evil, and wants to destroy American and the world. He does so running for president, and . . .

. . . on second thought, I think I'll just go to sleep.

And his initials are BHO?

232 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:38:12am

re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ahh, Subic Bay and Cubi Point....those were the days. Carousing in Olongapo.

You've been there?

233 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:39:52am

re: #222 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Mixed, really. Call centers that service American companies are in demand and a lot of people are in awe-sometimes-humored at those of use with American accents. It's just as mixed on the American troops, at least up here in Manila. Some are grateful that they helped out with the Typhoon that ravaged the Visayas a few months back and are helping out fighting the MILFs (don't laugh, it's their acronym choice) down in Mindanao, while others are worried that they've hung around a bit too long.

re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not very good memories for people like "Nicole..."

234 coquimbojoe  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:40:27am

re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans

Are the jeans furry, and made for old guys? Or is the old guy wearing the jeans furry?

Enquiring minds want to know...

235 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:41:16am

re: #232 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You've been there?

Ummm, yeah. More times than I care to want to remember. Even married a local filipina (now divorced) that worked in the gedunk at the VP hanger in Cubi. Never was station dito, just schlepped through for 6 months at a time from Hawaii. VP-6 and VP-17 for the morbidly curious, btw. ;)

236 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:42:13am

re: #234 coquimbojoe

re: #225 FurryOldGuyJeans

Are the jeans furry, and made for old guys? Or is the old guy wearing the jeans furry?

Enquiring minds want to know...

Yes, to both ;)

237 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:43:13am

Milfs- As in mothers i'd...?

238 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:43:51am

Closest I've ever been to the Philippines was Union City, CA.re: #235 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oops, I got morbidly curious. P-3 Orion? Sub hunters?

239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:44:17am

re: #235 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ummm, yeah. More times than I care to want to remember. Even married a local filipina (now divorced) that worked in the gedunk at the VP hanger in Cubi. Never was station dito, just schlepped through for 6 months at a time from Hawaii. VP-6 and VP-17 for the morbidly curious, btw. ;)

Wow, P-3's huh?

240 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:44:22am

re: #233 laZardo

Not very good memories for people like "Nicole..."

That was no marine, that was a low-life scum. And my time in the RP was during the mid to late 80's.

241 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:44:49am

Pardon that Union City comment. Just vestige of a thought I had lingering in the text field.

/Damn beer.

242 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:45:50am

re: #238 Gus 802

Closest I've ever been to the Philippines was Union City, CA.

Oops, I got morbidly curious. P-3 Orion? Sub hunters?

GTMA!

243 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:48:48am

re: #224 rightwinger3

Not true. His association with radicals/groups wanting to overthrow the US Government precludes him from holding a security clearance.

Actually someone HERE at lgf linked to a USGovt site a few weeks back and, true enough, known cocaine abuse (or other 'recreational' drug use) makes one (or The One) ineligible for a security clearance AND ineligible to access nuclear weapons codes etc.

Read it right here with my own eyes... didn't bookmark the website on this partition (I have 3 boot partitions)

244 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:51:43am

re: #238 Gus 802

Closest I've ever been to the Philippines was Union City, CA.

Oops, I got morbidly curious. P-3 Orion? Sub hunters?

re: #239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wow, P-3's huh?

P-3Bs as a matter of fact, even though I trained to be a P-3C Anti-Submarine Warfare Tech. Totally different bird inside (think Yugo compared to an Indy car). I had to have a Top Secret clearance to work on such high-tech marvels as touchscreens and the infamous CP-901 30 bit core-rope memory computer. ;)

245 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:52:25am

re: #240 FurryOldGuyJeans

That was no marine, that was a low-life scum. And my time in the RP was during the mid to late 80's.

Oooh. People Power days.

/why the People Power salute was similar to the American gesture for "loser" is still beyond me...

246 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:52:49am
247 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:53:56am

On a flight from Hawaii to Bali by way of Guam, we were diverted to Manila because of a typhoon. Over-nighted in a luxury hotel downtown. The place was a blast. Casino, beautiful women. Wished I could have stayed a couple of days. From Manila we were diverted to Hong Kong and then from there ended up First Class on Cathay Pacific to Bali. I was totally spoiled. U.S. carriers are like cattle cars to me now.
One day I'll get back to the P.I.

248 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:54:33am

re: #245 laZardo

Oooh. People Power days.

/why the People Power salute was similar to the American gesture for "loser" is still beyond me...

I was there when that happened....scary times, to say the least. Glad it was not some bloody coup.

And that is all I am going to say about People Power, thank you very much.

249 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:55:14am

re: #229 FurryOldGuyJeans

I stopped watching for the night before I started that episode. I have been watching Cheers for only the past 10 hours. ;)

Damn, that's awesome. I wish I could sit down and watch all the episodes I have nesting. I have the last few episodes of the last season, then about the first two seasons saved.

250 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:56:21am

re: #243 Karridine

Actually someone HERE at lgf linked to a USGovt site a few weeks back and, true enough, known cocaine abuse (or other 'recreational' drug use) makes one (or The One) ineligible for a security clearance AND ineligible to access nuclear weapons codes etc.

Read it right here with my own eyes... didn't bookmark the website on this partition (I have 3 boot partitions)

Agreed. I was just thinking of my own case (and that of many other clearance holders I'm sure). Killian, I take it back. He is a known coke user and that would definitely preclude him.

251 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:56:46am

re: #245 laZardo

/why the People Power salute was similar to the American gesture for "loser" is still beyond me...

My ex (who is filipina) never could understand why KKK was not something good here in the states.

252 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:58:11am
253 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:58:43am

re: #251 FurryOldGuyJeans

That's what happens when one literally comes from the opposite side of the world. q;

254 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:58:49am

re: #246 Gus 802

Good stuff, Gus! Thankee kindly.

/still stands... if Nobama is elected he'll be ineligible to be cleared to serve as president... They'll let him get emplaced anyway (I cannot get myself to type that Obama would SERVE as president)...

255 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:59:09am

re: #250 rightwinger3

Agreed. I was just thinking of my own case (and that of many other clearance holders I'm sure). Killian, I take it back. He is a known coke user and that would definitely preclude him.

Being POTUS tends to over-ride such petty things as rules and regulations.

256 Intrepid  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 1:59:50am

Get out and vote, Lizards! VOTE!

/that is the standard answer until November 5

:-)

257 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:00:01am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

258 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:00:41am

Good morning littleoldlady, thanks for the fruitcup.

259 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:00:53am

re: #248 FurryOldGuyJeans

All I will add to that is that what happened with the country in the events preceding is why I wince inside when someone glorifies Reagan here.

/sorry to be blunt...

260 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:01:10am

re: #255 FurryOldGuyJeans

Being POTUS tends to over-ride such petty things as rules and regulations.

Only for the conscientious and principled among us, GaiJin, so Obama could presidentialize to his beady little heart's content...

261 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:01:17am

re: #257 littleoldlady

FRRRRUUUUUUUITCUUUUUUUUUUP

/ [=

262 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:01:29am

re: #256 Intrepid

I'm going to vote early. Early this week. Checked the state referendums and one local referendum.

263 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:02:31am

re: #257 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------------->
Help yourselves!

It's amazing how you could be up at 5am even on a Sunday! I'm assuming you didn't watch the Phillies game?

264 Karridine  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:02:41am

re: #260 Karridine

Came out backwards much?

/sigh

265 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:04:09am

re: #250 rightwinger3

Agreed. I was just thinking of my own case (and that of many other clearance holders I'm sure). Killian, I take it back. He is a known coke user and that would definitely preclude him.

It doesn't matter.

/he's going to get it and the military is going to pay the price, God only knows what additional damage he'll do to this country before he's through

266 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:05:36am

BlueCanuck! :-)

How was your vacation?!

laZardo! :-)

Matrix! :-)
re: #263 TheMatrix31

It's amazing how you could be up at 5am even on a Sunday! I'm assuming you didn't watch the Phillies game?

Don't get old. Sleep is only a memory. :-/
I think I fell asleep somewhere in the 8th inning...

267 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:05:52am

re: #259 laZardo

All I will add to that is that what happened with the country in the events preceding is why I wince inside when someone glorifies Reagan here.

/sorry to be blunt...

From my perspective if it hadn't been for Reagan the overthrow of Marcos could have been and would have been a very bloody affair. Look at the fuck-up of what Jimmy Carter did with the Shah. What was done was for expediency sake.

Not that our foreign policy is ever without its mistakes, mind you. :)

268 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:07:34am

re: #266 littleoldlady

My vacation was relaxing, as one should be. Spent time with friends and family. Took way too many pictures. Going to post them as time permits.

269 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:08:05am

...So I didn't see the end of the game. The election has ruined us all for life. I went to check on the final score and I swear the Yahoo headline is, "Phillies capitalize on Rays gaffe"

Remember when there were errors in baseball? Remember when there errors in life?

270 thelongblogger  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:08:43am

re: #257 littleoldlady

And how did it get to be 2 AM, pray tell?

Thank you for the fruitcup, littleoldlady.

I'll be here for a while longer - I things to do tonight.

So when you say "You'e welcome", I'lll actually hear it this time.

MMMMM.... delicious.

271 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:09:02am

re: #268 BlueCanuck

Can't wait to see 'em! Glad you're back - we missed you! :-)

272 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:09:16am

re: #265 Killian Bundy

It doesn't matter.

/he's going to get it and the military is going to pay the price, God only knows what additional damage he'll do to this country before he's through

The military always pays for the inadequacies of petty men.

273 TheMatrix31  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:09:43am

re: #269 littleoldlady

...So I didn't see the end of the game. The election has ruined us all for life. I went to check on the final score and I swear the Yahoo headline is, "Phillies capitalize on Rays gaffe"

Remember when there were errors in baseball? Remember when there errors in life?

They're all gaffes now. Let's hope America doesn't turn into one big gaffe.

I was at work so I didn't catch the game. I heard the end on the radio on the way back home, though.

Hopefully tonight's is another classic.

274 thelongblogger  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:10:54am

re: #193 Karridine

If you're still here:

Sure sounds like purely optical migraines.

Sometimes there's no headaches, just the lights.

See your doctor to be sure.

275 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:11:07am

thelongblogger! :-)

Hmmm..."you're welcome"...what a novel idea. I never say that.

You're welcome, thelongblogger! ;-)

276 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:11:11am

re: #272 FurryOldGuyJeans

The military always pays for the inadequacies of petty men.

/it just occurred to me that Taiwan's days are probably numbered

277 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:12:26am

Obama and his minions will see the military as a place to play out their "cultural" experiments. Not withstanding his initial pledges to drastically cut funding on projects and weapons systems already underway.

278 nnorb  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:12:29am

Night all, going to hit the sack here on the East Coast. See you tomorrow,
Norb

279 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:12:29am

re: #276 Killian Bundy

/it just occurred to me that Taiwan's days are probably numbered

Both Israel and Taiwan are are the mercy of expansionist mad-men.

280 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:12:49am

re: #276 Killian Bundy

Could add Columbia to that and Israel.

281 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:14:28am

re: #280 Gus 802

Could add Columbia to that and Israel.

Georgia might be a preview of what happens to American allies during an Obama administration.

282 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:14:34am

re: #271 littleoldlady

Well, here's a bit of a tease. Got some up last week and still trying to find the energy o get the rest of them done.

283 thelongblogger  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:15:35am

re: #275 littleoldlady

thelongblogger! :-)

Hmmm..."you're welcome"...what a novel idea. I never say that.

You're welcome, thelongblogger! ;-)

I thought that when you wrote:

re: #266 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

laZardo! :-)

Matrix! :-)

That was your way of saying "You're welcome"

284 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:18:21am

Nigh, night, fellow scaly ones. :)

285 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:19:15am

re: #267 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, the military had already turned against him. Better that he didn't get fed to the crowd...though it would be nice to make the process of getting his billions back more efficient.

That and Imelda is still as pompous as she ever was. =_=

286 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:19:39am

re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans

Night, FOGJ.

287 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:20:15am

re: #281 FurryOldGuyJeans

Georgia might be a preview of what happens to American allies during an Obama administration.

Pretty much to "take it to the UN." He has an internationalist perspective. Of course the EU ended up taking Russia to task much more forcefully.

Deep down his point of view really reflects something you might read at an Indymedia site.

288 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:20:17am

re: #282 BlueCanuck

FRUIT! LOL!

re: #283 thelongblogger

It is, and thank you for recognizing that.

:-) ! = you're welcome, hi!, and nice to see you.

/bandwidth saver ;-)

289 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:21:38am

re: #287 Gus 802

Electronic Intifada.

290 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:21:39am

re: #285 laZardo

Well, the military had already turned against him. Better that he didn't get fed to the crowd...though it would be nice to make the process of getting his billions back more efficient.

That and Imelda is still as pompous as she ever was. =_=

It was a cock-up, that's for sure. As it stands it was not one of our prouder moments in foreign policy.

291 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:22:01am

re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans

Night and sleep well.

292 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:22:51am

re: #288 littleoldlady

Hmmm, didn't think of that. But I was in the Okanagan Valley. It was once known for fruit orchards, know it's starting to be known for it's wines.

293 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:23:02am

re: #289 littleoldlady

Electronic Intifada.

AKA The PLO.

294 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:23:07am

No Country Balls For Old men Kitten Bob

/coming to a theatre near you one week from yesterday

295 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:25:29am

re: #294 Killian Bundy

No Country Balls For Old men Kitten Bob

/coming to a theatre near you one week from yesterday

No country for Barack Obama.

296 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:28:31am

re: #293 Gus 802

That's right.

In fact there was something on that site about Obama. Someone was bemoaning that fact that at the beginning of the election it looked as though he'd gone over to the Dark Side (da Jooos). Obama assured the Palestinian that "this wasn't the right time"...or something. I'm going to go look for the link.

297 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:28:40am

re: #266 littleoldlady

I think I fell asleep somewhere in the 8th inning...

You missed the best part.

298 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:28:43am

re: #295 Gus 802

No country for Barack Obama.

/the lemmings want it

299 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:31:18am

Well...I found the quote anyway:

The last time I spoke to Obama was in the winter of 2004 at a gathering in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood. He was in the midst of a primary campaign to secure the Democratic nomination for the United States Senate seat he now occupies. But at that time polls showed him trailing.

As he came in from the cold and took off his coat, I went up to greet him. He responded warmly, and volunteered, "Hey, I'm sorry I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race. I'm hoping when things calm down I can be more up front." He referred to my activism, including columns I was contributing to the The Chicago Tribune critical of Israeli and US policy, "Keep up the good work!"

300 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:34:11am

re: #296 littleoldlady

That's right.

In fact there was something on that site about Obama. Someone was bemoaning that fact that at the beginning of the election it looked as though he'd gone over to the Dark Side (da Jooos). Obama assured the Palestinian that "this wasn't the right time"...or something. I'm going to go look for the link.

Yes. He also had Samantha Powers who was another far left adviser. Foreign policy adviser to be exact whom he fired after she called Hillary Clinton a "monster." Powers is seemingly rather pro-PLO including statements regarding American troops in Israel to meet a pro-left goal for Israel. Susan Rice is very suspect as well who already lacks much in public decorum

301 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:34:55am

Fenway! :-)

I'm always torn between watching the game and staying completely away from the TV in case I jinx my team.

/unlucky AND superstitious!
//can't help it - it's in the DNA! ;-)

302 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:36:34am

re: #298 Killian Bundy

/the lemmings want it

FIRE THE "LASER!"

/ [=

303 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:37:23am

re: #298 Killian Bundy

/the lemmings want it

The Soviets Russians are waiting.

304 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:38:56am

re: #303 Gus 802

The Soviets Russians are waiting.

/with baited breath

305 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:39:43am

re: #300 Gus 802

Here's some (older) links.

[Link: hotair.com...]

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

306 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:42:29am

I found the link. WOW. Kinda amazing it hasn't gone down the memory hole....

307 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:45:02am

re: #305 littleoldlady

Thank you. Bookmarked those.

In the end Obama is not the man he morphed himself into in order to garner votes after analyzing his experience with Hillary Clinton in Kentucky and West Virginia. He remains far left in his views and Americans would have to be foolish to think otherwise. Unfortunately many are and are basically charmed into making their choices.

308 little blessing  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:48:44am

Hey Everybody!

Did you save me some fruitcup?

Red I need a double dose of. . .

309 little blessing  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:49:16am

Hey Blue!

How was the holiday?

310 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:53:16am
311 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:53:53am

re: #277 Gus 802

Obama and his minions will see the military as a place to play out their "cultural" experiments. Not withstanding his initial pledges to drastically cut funding on projects and weapons systems already underway.

Doesn't matter. We already have the MK-19.

312 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:56:55am

re: #311 rightwinger3

Nice. I saw that on Liveleak before. I was just looking at some F-22s with external tanks.

First times I've seen them with external tanks.

313 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:57:22am

little blessing! :-)

rightwinger3! :-)

314 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 2:59:45am

re: #309 little blessing

Hi littleblessing. The vacation was great. Unfortunately I forgot how stupid some people can be. :p

/already ripping my hair out and it's just my first shift back.

315 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:00:07am

re: #311 rightwinger3

Actually, that's pretty cool. It's like an automatic mini-mortar with more shrapnel if it takes traditional grenades. Saw another vid and it takes 14 rounds?

316 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:01:33am

re: #312 Gus 802

Nice. I saw that on Liveleak before. I was just looking at some F-22s with external tanks.

First times I've seen them with external tanks.

Cool picture.

317 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:02:31am

re: #315 Gus 802

Actually, that's pretty cool. It's like an automatic mini-mortar with more shrapnel if it takes traditional grenades. Saw another vid and it takes 14 rounds?

40mm grenade launcher, linked rounds.

318 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:02:43am

At least Bush wasn't a charlatan.

/prepare for much nore change than the sheeple bargained for

319 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:03:11am

re: #313 littleoldlady

little blessing! :-)

rightwinger3! :-)

littleoldlady! :-)

320 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:03:56am

re: #316 rightwinger3

Nice aye? Found that at an Anderson AFB mil gallery.

321 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:08:05am

Lord President For life Obama is going to cut at least 25% off the military budget.

/unilaterally

322 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:08:56am

re: #320 Gus 802

Nice aye? Found that at an Anderson AFB mil gallery.

Yeah, very cool. Lots of good pictures there. The picture of the B-52's would be better if they were opening bomb bay doors over the "Taliban stronghold" of Afghanistan.

323 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:12:26am

I envision a significant portion of the Military not reenlisting.

/oh look, it's a clown car

324 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:12:45am

re: #321 Killian Bundy

"This will not be from investing in new technology, this will simply be the overall budget cut from not having to maintain an unnecessary and unpopular theater of conflict."

Serious note though:

"I was teasing (U.S. Rep.) Jack Murtha (a key supporter of military budgets) and I said to him, 'For the first time, somebody else has got a bill that's almost as big as yours.' We don't need all these fancy new weapons. I think there needs to be additional review."

Considering the affair with the chair of Fannie Mae, I think I may need a barf bag.

/and Hump Day is still on Wednesday...

325 little blessing  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:13:05am

Ah, good. We're back in business.

I was so sure I killed it, I ran away.

/

{littleoldlady!}

326 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:15:07am

re: #322 rightwinger3

We can call it Linebacker III.

I'm surprised they're still fighting (the Taliban). I started eyeing them well before 9-11 and it was a bad feeling then. It's a wonder that they can still find men to join their primative cult.

Remember the Taliban leaders before the invasion? They were given several months to surrender but during the mean time they were frequently on the airwaves or TV news. Trying to explain themselves.

327 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:15:11am

re: #325 little blessing

Not to worry. I went to get another cup of coffee and while I wasn't looking my computer did one of those "we downloaded stuff - you're screwed" forced restarts.

/kinda like Obama's "Universal Voluntary National Service"

What did I miss?

328 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:15:41am

re: #323 Killian Bundy

I envision a significant portion of the Military not reenlisting.

/oh look, it's a clown car

Or trying to stay in longer. Here's the deal Killian, when you retire you get cool "Thanks for your service" certificates signed by the President. Who would want one signed by NObama?

329 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:19:05am

re: #328 rightwinger3

Or trying to stay in longer. Here's the deal Killian, when you retire you get cool "Thanks for your service" certificates signed by the President. Who would want one signed by NObama?

/actually, that would be a pretty powerful motivation, but it's obvious that American troops are going to be ordered to do more with less

330 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:19:28am

re: #326 Gus 802

We can call it Linebacker III.

I'm surprised they're still fighting (the Taliban). I started eyeing them well before 9-11 and it was a bad feeling then. It's a wonder that they can still find men to join their primative cult.

Remember the Taliban leaders before the invasion? They were given several months to surrender but during the mean time they were frequently on the airwaves or TV news. Trying to explain themselves.

Probably forced into it. Either way they will die long before they had planned on it. Sucks for them.

331 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:20:31am

re: #323 Killian Bundy

I envision a significant portion of the Military not reenlisting.

/oh look, it's a clown car

Kinda reminds me of what happened to the Canadian military when Trudeau came to power in 67. The military is finally getting it's equipment legs back after almost 20 years after the fact.

332 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:26:27am

re: #328 rightwinger3

Who wouldn't want to be thanked for their service by the President? Hell, maybe they could even enlist for the Civilian National Defense Force and get an instant promotion.

/

333 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:27:02am

Grab your hand basket.

/we're going for a joy ride

334 Gus 802  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:27:03am

Time to head out, have a good day everyone.

335 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:28:04am

I saw another BHO sticker yesterday. It was TAPED to the car's rear window.

336 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:28:35am

re: #329 Killian Bundy

/actually, that would be a pretty powerful motivation, but it's obvious that American troops are going to be ordered to do more with less

Agreed, Killian, and I would never in my life defend Obambi, but you've seen this quote before right?

We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

That's the way it is but it doesn't stop us from kickin' ass.

337 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:28:50am

re: #335 MandyManners

I saw another BHO sticker yesterday. It was TAPED to the car's rear window.

LOL.

338 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:29:25am

re: #334 Gus 802

Time to head out, have a good day everyone.

Later Gus, thanks for the pic link.

339 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:31:59am

re: #332 laZardo

Who wouldn't want to be thanked for their service by the President? Hell, maybe they could even enlist for the Civilian National Defense Force and get an instant promotion.

/

laZardo, I would be willing to bet 75-100% of the Marine Corps would throw the certificate away (I framed mine in gold signed by George W. Bush) if it was signed by a president Obama.

340 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:32:27am

Dinner, BBL

341 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:32:58am

re: #339 rightwinger3

Hence the sarc tag. [;

342 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:34:10am

re: #341 laZardo

Hence the sarc tag. [;

Yeah I saw it, just had to put in my 2 cents.

343 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:37:34am

re: #337 rightwinger3

I still can't figure it out. Why taped?

344 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:38:17am

re: #336 rightwinger3

We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.

/it's a sad and dangerous day when we're reduced to operating the one and only hyperpower military in the world on a Mother Teresa budget

345 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:39:11am

re: #343 MandyManners

I still can't figure it out. Why taped?

So they can pull it off more easily when he loses, I guess. Must be undecided but "leaning" BHO.

346 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:41:44am

re: #344 Killian Bundy

/it's a sad and dangerous day when we're reduced to operating the one and only hyperpower military in the world on a Mother Teresa budget

Yeah, it is. Let's just vote and hope it never comes to pass.

347 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:45:22am

re: #346 rightwinger3

Yeah, it is. Let's just vote and hope it never comes to pass.

/taken down from within, building on decades of preparation

348 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:48:55am

re: #345 rightwinger3

So they can pull it off more easily when he loses, I guess. Must be undecided but "leaning" BHO.

Rather yellow of him.

349 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:51:14am

re: #348 MandyManners

Rather yellow of him.

RACIST!

350 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:51:58am

re: #349 MandyManners

Talking to yourself again? All those eeyores must be getting to you. :)

351 mensamann  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:53:52am

Morning all! 6:52 here on the "Right" coast, and I have just finished sending my e-mail to the LA Times asking for more information concerning the Obama/Khalidi video. Not expecting much, but....
Okay, I'll be back. Gotta go eat some Trix!

352 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:57:11am

re: #349 MandyManners

RACIST!

Yes, you are!

353 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 3:59:04am

good morning everyone! Who won the game last nite? Hubby gave up at 1:30 and it still wasn't over.................

354 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:00:08am

re: #353 wahabicorridor

PHILLIES! :-)

355 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:01:35am

re: #347 Killian Bundy

/taken down from within, building on decades of preparation

Fortunately, we have gun and bible-clingers who see through the ruse.

356 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:01:39am

Trix are for kids...

357 mensamann  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:02:18am

re: #356 littleoldlady

Geesh! I'm only 52!

358 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:02:25am

re: #350 BlueCanuck

Talking to yourself again? All those eeyores must be getting to you. :)

I don't let Eeyores get to me. I'm Little Miss Mary-Fucking-Sunshine.

359 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:02:30am

re: #353 wahabicorridor

good morning everyone! Who won the game last nite? Hubby gave up at 1:30 and it still wasn't over.................

Avs beat the Sabres in a shootout. Excellent game. Good thing he stayed up to watch.

360 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:02:33am

re: #354 littleoldlady

PHILLIES! :-)


EGGGSELENT! I just turned on the TV - it should be covered soon.

Also - GO PENN STATE!

361 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:03:01am

re: #352 rightwinger3

If I'd called him a "chicken" I'd be a SPECIEIST.

Just can't win.

362 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:04:22am

re: #358 MandyManners

I don't let Eeyores get to me. I'm Little Miss Mary-Fucking-Sunshine.

Remind me to stay on your good side.

363 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:04:22am

re: #361 MandyManners

Call him a failure, you'll be a Gradist.

/ [=

364 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:05:39am

re: #357 mensamann

Geesh! I'm only 52!

Gotta love a man who says "only" 52.

/then again, it no doubt would only be a man who says that ... ;-)

365 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:06:05am

re: #353 wahabicorridor

good morning everyone! Who won the game last nite? Hubby gave up at 1:30 and it still wasn't over.................

re: #359 rightwinger3

Avs beat the Sabres in a shootout. Excellent game. Good thing he stayed up to watch.

Good thing I can read.

366 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:08:11am

re: #361 MandyManners

If I'd called him a "chicken" I'd be a SPECIEIST.

Just can't win.

We know you have nothing against chickens or any other fowl.

367 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:10:05am

re: #360 wahabicorridor

wahabicorridor! :-)

So far, so great sportswise this year...

368 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:11:34am

re: #364 littleoldlady

Gotta love a man who says "only" 52.

/then again, it no doubt would only be a man who says that ... ;-)

Yes, all ladies are reach 29 and then enter a holding pattern.

/heh
//*ahem* I mean white smoke ;)

369 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:12:02am

re: #362 BlueCanuck

Remind me to stay on your good side.

You can't get on my bad side--you're Canadian.

370 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:12:35am

re: #365 rightwinger3

Good thing I can read.

go get more coffee.......we'll wait

;)

371 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:12:57am

re: #368 BlueCanuck

Yes, all ladies are reach 29 and then enter a holding pattern.

/heh
//*ahem* I mean white smoke ;)

Myself, I started going backwards.

/I'm really loving kindergarten again! ;-)

Where is red, anyway?

372 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:13:07am

re: #368 BlueCanuck

Yes, all ladies are reach 29 and then enter a holding pattern.

My mom all of a sudden turned 39 a couple years back.

373 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:13:17am

re: #363 laZardo

Call him a failure, you'll be a Gradist.

/ [=

It looked rather idiotic.

Something just hit me. Maybe he is planning on selling the car later this year and trading up so he didn't want to put anything on it.

374 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:13:30am

re: #367 littleoldlady

wahabicorridor! :-)

So far, so great sportswise this year...

I'm afraid this may be Pa Joe's last year. I understand he's still in considerable pain.

375 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:13:39am

Good morning from the home of the Tampa Bay Rays!(oopsie...hello there littleoldlady!) I meant to say Buccaneers!

A friend sent me this email...sure surprised me for our area of Florida.

Today my son and I went to vote at the (I deleted name for obvious reasons) Library location. It was a very gloomy day out there in the sun because there was a man sitting in a lawn chair making and handing out Obama yard signs the entire time we were there. Another man had a pack of flyers, must have been 5 inches thick, and was walking up and down the line handing out Democrat voting issues and how to vote on them including judges. He stated it was legal in Florida to do this. His arms were full of information. There was a jeep or SUV with Democratic bumper stickers all over the back parked in the very front of the library so everyone could see the bumper stickers (which put down Republicans). The worker must have been inside or it was probably the man making up Obama signs in his lawn chair on the grass as people stood there in line or drove out and handing them out taking up the front library parking space because we were in line for one hour and 45 minutes to 2 hours. (we had to watch that man in the chair and see him for over an hour)

I didn't see any Republicans passing anything out and only saw a few McCain-Palin signs between the streets that go opposite directions. As Republicans, we are so conservative and nice while the Democrats are mean and nasty and pushing Obama right into presidency. I like what one Republican woman said about Obama, "I wouldn't vote for that idiot". It makes me wonder if we aren't being vocal enough. Obama would be the luckiest man on earth to slide right into presidency if he wins.

My son and I left feeling we did what we could in voting for McCain. I was very discouraged because it appeared that the persuasion of the Democrats was very heavy. Very social Democrats were making friends in the line. I don't know if it helped but my son made a friend per a common interest but it's unknown who he's voting for. The fellow called cell phone friends who seemed to have varied ideas about who they were voting for. We really need to Keep Praying.

376 mensamann  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:15:14am

re: #364 littleoldlady

SEXIST!

377 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:15:16am

I think I saw a gray hair yesterday. Well, I think it was gray. I plucked that little fucker right out by the roots and consigned it to the toilet.

378 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:15:26am

re: #370 wahabicorridor

go get more coffee.......we'll wait

;)

I can do that! I'm in Italy right now and I love espresso which is their coffee drink of choice. My only problem is I drink so much of it I only get a few hours sleep a night, if that.

379 Alouette  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:16:09am

re: #147 gmsc

I remember when there was a big controversy about the episode where Spielberg and Lucas rape Indiana Jones. I hadn't seen that episode, or even heard about it, when a friend of mine wanted to talk about. He asked, "Don't you think South Park has gone too far?" I replied, "Always! Are we talking about anything specific?"

I think the funniest thing they ever did was have Cartman, upon learning that having Tourette's Syndrome means you can swear anytime, anywhere, without anyone getting upset, starts singing, "I've Got a Golden Ticket!"

South Park has not yet "jumped the shark." Funniest episode EVER was last season, with "The Runaway Penis." And who knew Cartman habla Espanol?

380 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:17:48am

re: #371 littleoldlady

Don't know where red is, thought he might be on tonight. Oh well, he's probably lurking and contemplating mischef.

381 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:18:51am

re: #375 gettinby

Good morning from the home of the Tampa Bay Rays!(oopsie...hello there littleoldlady!) I meant to say Buccaneers!

A friend sent me this email...sure surprised me for our area of Florida.

Another man had a pack of flyers, must have been 5 inches thick, and was walking up and down the line handing out Democrat voting issues and how to vote on them including judges

gettinby, I hope he took a flyer and voted the opposite!

382 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:20:04am

re: #377 MandyManners

I think I saw a gray hair yesterday. Well, I think it was gray. I plucked that little fucker right out by the roots and consigned it to the toilet.

Mandy, "gray" is a race.

383 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:20:40am

re: #378 rightwinger3

I'm in Italy right now

Ok. I'm jealous. Three places on my 'before-I-die' list.

Italy Russia Serengeti

Is the food there everything I've been told (apply directly to my hips and all that)

384 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:21:36am

re: #382 rightwinger3

Mandy, "gray" is a race.

Well, it's an extreme minority around here so, screw it.

385 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:21:46am

re: #375 gettinby

gettinby! :-)

Are we having fun yet? ;-)

Just spoke to a friend in Miami who told me she went to vote early and the actual paper ballot (and check-station) took her 20 minutes!

Another clusterf*ck in Florida?

386 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:22:15am

re: #381 rightwinger3

gettinby, I hope he took a flyer and voted the opposite!

My son and I left feeling we did what we could in voting for McCain

Damn. I'm gonna go get that coffee, now.

387 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:22:19am

re: #378 rightwinger3

I can do that! I'm in Italy right now and I love espresso which is their coffee drink of choice. My only problem is I drink so much of it I only get a few hours sleep a night, if that.

Oooooooh. Shoooooooooooooooes.

388 Killian Bundy  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:22:57am

Bill Clinton promised middle class tax cuts.

/how many times is America going to fall for this bull[expletive deleted[?

389 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:23:44am

re: #376 mensamann

SEXIST!

One thing I learned from this election.

Misogyny = good.
Racism = bad.

Oh, I almost forgot

Socialist = black.

390 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:23:57am

Commentary on British life

Three doctors are bragging about their country's medical achievements. The Israeli doctor starts by saying "medicine in my country is so advanced we can take a kidney out of one person, put it in another, and have him up and looking for work in six weeks".

The German doctor says "that's nothing, in Germany, we can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in four weeks".

Not to be out done the English doctor says, "we can take an arsehole out of Scotland, put him in 10 Downing Street, and have half the fucking country looking for work within 24 hours".

391 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:26:00am

re: #381 rightwinger3

gettinby, I hope he took a flyer and voted the opposite!

It's a she, and yes, she voted McCain. They don't want to get in my face when and if that happens to me! LOL

re: #385 littleoldlady

gettinby! :-)

Are we having fun yet? ;-)

Just spoke to a friend in Miami who told me she went to vote early and the actual paper ballot (and check-station) took her 20 minutes!

Another clusterf*ck in Florida?

It's what Florida does. Haven't you noticed the hanging chads from the mitts of the Rays' players?

392 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:26:54am

re: #391 gettinby

I did notice a very bad call from the umpire.

/chads. oh yeah. that explains it...

393 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:27:01am

re: #383 wahabicorridor

Ok. I'm jealous. Three places on my 'before-I-die' list.

Italy Russia Serengeti

Is the food there everything I've been told (apply directly to my hips and all that)

wahabicorridor, I've been to some excellent restaurants and my hips are the same size as when I got here...so is my beer belly.

394 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:27:12am

re: #384 MandyManners

Everyone is gray when you're colorblind.

/?

395 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:27:19am

re: #388 Killian Bundy

Bill Clinton promised middle class tax cuts.

/how many times is America going to fall for this bull[expletive deleted[?

Too many times, and if America does it this time, it will be one too many times.

396 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:28:37am

re: #394 laZardo

Everyone is gray when you're colorblind.

/?

Is it true that color-blind people cannot be pilots?

397 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:30:36am

re: #387 MandyManners

Oooooooh. Shoooooooooooooooes.

Expensive...until last week when dollar gained on the Euro...now almost reasonable my wife says. I have my Iron Maiden Vans and that's all I need.

398 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:32:24am

Anecdotal from Pennsylvania:

My daughter tells me that she's heard a few black kids on campus say, "We don't have to vote. Obama's gonna blow the other guy away..."

I told her to remind her Dem friends to vote on November 5th.

/it's the patriotic thing to do! ;-)

399 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:32:37am

re: #396 MandyManners

Is it true that color-blind people cannot be pilots?

Yes, most of the colours that are used are reds, blues and greens. Most for navigation and airplane lights.

/Left Port Red, Right Starboard Green.

400 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:33:26am

re: #392 littleoldlady

I did notice a very bad call from the umpire.

/chads. oh yeah. that explains it...

LOL

We've been to a few games at Tropicana Field (which is in St. Petersburg - why weren't they named the St.Pete Rays?), and there were maybe 100 people in the stands.

I LOVE how, now that we've done well, the throngs of fans all declare they've been attending for years and years. Heh.

401 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:33:34am

re: #398 littleoldlady

So have you found a new nic for MNT?

/and now I see where she gets it from.

402 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:34:18am

re: #398 littleoldlady

Anecdotal from Pennsylvania:

My daughter tells me that she's heard a few black kids on campus say, "We don't have to vote. Obama's gonna blow the other guy away..."

I told her to remind her Dem friends to vote on November 5th.

/it's the patriotic thing to do! ;-)

No, ask them to remember what they said when they start crying "voter disenfranchisement" after Obama loses. (;

/talk about eating one's words...

403 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:34:55am

re: #397 rightwinger3

Expensive...until last week when dollar gained on the Euro...now almost reasonable my wife says. I have my Iron Maiden Vans and that's all I need.

I adore Sesto Meucci. *sigh*

404 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:35:28am

re: #399 BlueCanuck

Yes, most of the colours that are used are reds, blues and greens. Most for navigation and airplane lights.

/Left Port Red, Right Starboard Green.

I'm surprised some dolt hasn't sued under ADA.

405 shiplord kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:36:03am

re: #398 littleoldlady

Anecdotal from Pennsylvania:

My daughter tells me that she's heard a few black kids on campus say, "We don't have to vote. Obama's gonna blow the other guy away..."

I told her to remind her Dem friends to vote on November 5th.

/it's the patriotic thing to do! ;-)

Excellent! Rovian operation "Slam-Dunk" may yet succeed in keeping the Obama hordes at home on election day.

406 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:36:14am

re: #401 BlueCanuck

So have you found a new nic for MNT?

/and now I see where she gets it from.

MNTS = meannastytwentysomething

/good for the next ten years! :-)

407 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:36:25am

re: #404 MandyManners

ADA?

408 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:36:37am

re: #399 BlueCanuck

Yes, most of the colours that are used are reds, blues and greens. Most for navigation and airplane lights.

/Left Port Red, Right Starboard Green.

Reminds me of red's '/sarc menu' (white smoke, etc.). :)

It would also be difficult to be in the military, or in law enforcement?

(Good morning, Blue!)

409 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:37:10am

re: #403 MandyManners

Check out ebay. I sold a pair of those (only slightly used) for bupkes a few months ago.

410 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:38:02am

re: #406 littleoldlady

MNTS = meannastytwentysomething

/good for the next ten years! :-)

Twenty years! meannastythirtysomething as well. Good choice.

411 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:40:55am

re: #410 rightwinger3

I should only live that long! ;-)

412 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:42:36am

re: #408 gettinby

Morning gettinby. LPR and RSG were printed on my CFI's boots and I asked what they stood for. That's when he told me. Apparently one of his students back in the 50's couldn't tell his left from his right so he had a pair of boots done up. One red and the other green. Another funny story about that student I will save for another time.

/CFI = Chief Flying Instructor.
//Flew in the RCAF and the CF-100's.

413 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:43:06am

re: #407 BlueCanuck

ADA?

Americans with Disabilities Act.

414 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:43:34am

re: #408 gettinby

Reminds me of red's '/sarc menu' (white smoke, etc.). :)

It would also be difficult to be in the military, or in law enforcement?

(Good morning, Blue!)

It's not a deal breaker, though. I know some MOS's you HAVE to be NOT colorblind, pilot, electronics guy (yes that's a real MOS) but others like infantry I don't think so.

415 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:44:05am

re: #405 shiplord kirel

shiplord! :-)

I'm still trying to figure out where the supposed +11% Obama has (according to the polls) in PA is coming from. I just don't see it...

There is a grand total of 3 signs in my development - all McCain, and ALL placed near front doors instead of near the street.

416 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:47:50am

re: #413 MandyManners

Ah, couldn't be done. Would have to take it to the world court to try to effect international changes. Each nation has their own rules and regs for pilots and such, but almost all national regs are the same internationally. In fact english is the language for airports world wide.

/really pisses the french off.

417 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:48:16am

Note: McCain has closed to within 5 points of the Messiah in the latest Zogby poll, a difference of +5 in one day.

If, as many suspect, these are rigged leftward; I hope and pray that the Obama media tankers don't get a clue before election day and suddenly decide to put McCain ahead. The last thing we need is for the compliant media-conformist hordes to wake up and realize that their guy might still lose.
Complacency is our ally, the young and the recently registered are particularly susceptible to it, especially if their media authorities tell them that the election is already decided.

418 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:50:19am

re: #409 littleoldlady

Check out ebay. I sold a pair of those (only slightly used) for bupkes a few months ago.

I don't think I've ever been to e-bay.

419 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:50:42am

re: #412 BlueCanuck

Morning gettinby. LPR and RSG were printed on my CFI's boots and I asked what they stood for. That's when he told me. Apparently one of his students back in the 50's couldn't tell his left from his right so he had a pair of boots done up. One red and the other green. Another funny story about that student I will save for another time.

/CFI = Chief Flying Instructor.
//Flew in the RCAF and the CF-100's.

Wow! Thanks for your service!

/left from right? Doesn't one just need to remember one of them? LOL

420 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:50:55am

re: #416 BlueCanuck

Ah, couldn't be done. Would have to take it to the world court to try to effect international changes. Each nation has their own rules and regs for pilots and such, but almost all national regs are the same internationally. In fact english is the language for airports world wide.

/really pisses the french off.

I bet it does. French was once the language of diplomacy.

421 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:51:08am

re: #417 Shiplord Kirel

Note: McCain has closed to within 5 points of the Messiah in the latest Zogby poll, a difference of +5 in one day.

If, as many suspect, these are rigged leftward; I hope and pray that the Obama media tankers don't get a clue before election day and suddenly decide to put McCain ahead. The last thing we need is for the compliant media-conformist hordes to wake up and realize that their guy might still lose.
Complacency is our ally, the young and the recently registered are particularly susceptible to it, especially if their media authorities tell them that the election is already decided.

Exactly, Shiplord.
/ And for that we shall delete your post because they do hang out here.

422 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:52:00am

re: #420 MandyManners

It's still the language of the Olympics.

/thought Greek or Latin was the language of diplomacy

423 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:52:27am

re: #419 gettinby

Heh, flew with the Air Cadets. He was long retired by then. But I have served in the reserves as a rifleman. :)

/couldn't get my act together for the Air force.

424 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:53:16am

re: #414 rightwinger3

It's not a deal breaker, though. I know some MOS's you HAVE to be NOT colorblind, pilot, electronics guy (yes that's a real MOS) but others like infantry I don't think so.

Didn't we have a President who was colorblind?

425 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:53:20am

re: #422 laZardo

French, where we get the term Lingua Franca from. At one point in the middle ages France was the dominant force.

426 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:53:29am

re: #416 BlueCanuck

Ah, couldn't be done. Would have to take it to the world court to try to effect international changes. Each nation has their own rules and regs for pilots and such, but almost all national regs are the same internationally. In fact english is the language for airports world wide.

/really pisses the french off.

Blue, it's France. Who cares? Oui, Monseiur? Sounds like somebody has to go pee.

427 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:54:54am

re: #415 littleoldlady

Easy. They skew the sample. Also, pollsters almost NEVER poll outside urban areas. I doubt if anyone in Uniontown has been contacted for a national poll in decades.

428 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:55:14am

re: #418 MandyManners

I don't think I've ever been to e-bay.

You can do quite well with (brand new) designer shoes. Stay away from the handbags, though. Too many knockoffs being passed off as authentic.

429 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:55:51am

Ok, off to read the Sunday rags. Have a good one!

430 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:56:31am

re: #425 BlueCanuck

I know my birth first name is Latin for Frenchman.

/sacre bleugh!

431 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:56:35am

re: #422 laZardo

It's still the language of the Olympics.

/thought Greek or Latin was the language of diplomacy

It's still the language of the Olympics? Why?

432 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:56:45am

re: #427 wahabicorridor

I have a sneaky feeling that "Alabama in between" is gonna bite them in the...er...tuchas this time. ;-)

433 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:58:16am

re: #426 rightwinger3

I do. It gives me that warm fuzzy feeling inside. :)

/hated french in public and High school

434 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:58:45am

re: #428 littleoldlady

You can do quite well with (brand new) designer shoes. Stay away from the handbags, though. Too many knockoffs being passed off as authentic.

I just cannot imagine buying shoes that I've not tried on. I severed* the tendons on my right foot years ago so I have to be sure I can walk well in them.

*They were reattached. Freaky accident in the kitchen while barefoot.

435 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 4:59:57am

re: #424 gettinby

Didn't we have a President who was colorblind?



Not yet, but he may get elected if Obamatons don't come to their senses!

I googled it and came up with nothing but electing the first black president and how we are racists for not voting for Obama.

436 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:00:05am

Am I the only one who dreams about this election? One of my dreams this morning was about Cloward-Pevin.

437 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:00:10am

re: #434 MandyManners

YIKES! :-(

438 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:00:50am

re: #431 MandyManners

Probably because the guy that created the Modern Olympics was.

439 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:00:55am

re: #437 littleoldlady

It screwed up that summer.

440 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:01:40am

re: #421 rightwinger3

Exactly, Shiplord.
/ And for that we shall delete your post because they do hang out here.

A private message to any lurking Dems: Yep, we give up, throw in the towel, surrender, raise the white flag of peace. The overwhelming majesty of the One's divine prescience has completely subsumed our feeble efforts. We welcome our new progressive overlords and we beg leave to join you as we march together in lockstep into the paradise of free houses, abundant healthcare, and a Lexus in every garage. My own poll (Olbermann approved and therefore infallible) shows Obama with an 86 point lead, 93 to 7 percent, not counting the 27 people who will vote for Ralph Nader and that Libertarian wack-job. Take the day off to celebrate a week from Tuesday; hang out with friends, knock back some brew, maybe a little blow if available and forget about wasting your time voting in an election that is already decided.

441 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:01:43am

re: #438 laZardo

Probably because the guy that created the Modern Olympics was.

Why aren't they naked like the original ones?

442 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:02:28am

re: #440 Shiplord Kirel

A private message to any lurking Dems: Yep, we give up, throw in the towel, surrender, raise the white flag of peace. The overwhelming majesty of the One's divine prescience has completely subsumed our feeble efforts. We welcome our new progressive overlords and we beg leave to join you as we march together in lockstep into the paradise of free houses, abundant healthcare, and a Lexus in every garage. My own poll (Olbermann approved and therefore infallible) shows Obama with an 86 point lead, 93 to 7 percent, not counting the 27 people who will vote for Ralph Nader and that Libertarian wack-job. Take the day off to celebrate a week from Tuesday; hang out with friends, knock back some brew, maybe a little blow if available and forget about wasting your time voting in an election that is already decided.

LOL!

443 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:03:05am

re: #439 MandyManners

It screwed up that summer.

I'll bet!

444 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:03:40am

re: #441 MandyManners

Because that would lead to discrimination against Eastern European/Russian transgender athletes.

/ q=

//wonders why the Tokyo 2016 Olympic Bid logo looks like a noose

445 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:04:35am

re: #440 Shiplord Kirel

A private message to any lurking Dems: Yep, we give up, throw in the towel, surrender, raise the white flag of peace. The overwhelming majesty of the One's divine prescience has completely subsumed our feeble efforts. We welcome our new progressive overlords and we beg leave to join you as we march together in lockstep into the paradise of free houses, abundant healthcare, and a Lexus in every garage. My own poll (Olbermann approved and therefore infallible) shows Obama with an 86 point lead, 93 to 7 percent, not counting the 27 people who will vote for Ralph Nader and that Libertarian wack-job. Take the day off to celebrate a week from Tuesday; hang out with friends, knock back some brew, maybe a little blow if available and forget about wasting your time voting in an election that is already decided.

LOL!

446 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:04:50am

re: #444 laZardo

Because that would lead to discrimination against Eastern European/Russian transgender athletes.

/ q=

//wonders why the Tokyo 2016 Olympic Bid logo looks like a noose

A warning to foreign devils who might misbehave? Japan still uses strangulation hanging as the official method of execution.

447 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:04:59am

re: #440 Shiplord Kirel

I concur, especially when we're resorting to blackmail and hardly-provable associations through videos that may or may not exist.

Party on, Dems, you deserve it after so long.

448 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:07:13am

They need to begin referring to the "BailOut" as the "Heh-We-Snookered-Them-Again" Bill.

Shifting Sands

Other planned uses of the bailout money have lawmakers protesting, although it is only fair to note there is nothing in the law that they just wrote to prevent those uses.

/"take that, citizens of America!"

449 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:08:24am

re: #444 laZardo

Because that would lead to discrimination against Eastern European/Russian transgender athletes.

/ q=

//wonders why the Tokyo 2016 Olympic Bid logo looks like a noose

What other city is in the running?

450 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:09:29am

re: #440 Shiplord Kirel

LOL

451 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:10:27am

Speaking of the French, The Scarlet Pimpernel is on!

452 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:10:53am

re: #448 gettinby

Other planned uses of the bailout money have lawmakers protesting, although it is only fair to note there is nothing in the law that they just wrote to prevent those uses.

I was always taught that "letter of the law" and "spirit of the law" were 2 very different things. Dems look for every loophole in the letter of the law they can find, screw the spirit of the law.

453 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:10:56am

re: #448 gettinby

For all that some members of our government wish we were more like France, they should be thanking their lucky stars that the citoyens aren't like the French.

/got blood in the streets?

454 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:11:12am

re: #449 MandyManners

What other city is in the running?

Madrid, Rio de Janeiro, and New Obama City.

455 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:11:51am

re: #454 laZardo

Madrid, Rio de Janeiro, and New Obama City.

Obamagrad?

456 yochanan  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:11:57am

Were I offen disagree with either of the Clintons even agree with them on some issues but unlike OBAMA neither of them scare me. OBAMA whom i feel is totally unacceptable as POTUS scares the hell out of me.

Hillary was qualified to be POTUS were we lizards would disagree on issues but i think we all agree that the obama machine's use of the most crass hatred of women on Hillary just as they are using it on Sarah.

457 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:12:01am

re: #453 littleoldlady

For all that some members of our government wish we were more like France, they should be thanking their lucky stars that the citoyens aren't like the French.

/got blood in the streets?

Not since 1992. They weren't "race riots," they were "angry over injustice."

/because we can't all just get along.

458 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:12:38am

re: #454 laZardo

Madrid, Rio de Janeiro, and New Obama City.

Where is the halo and pic of Obama. I could do a better logo than that.

459 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:13:34am

re: #454 laZardo

Madrid, Rio de Janeiro, and New Obama City.

Chicago's logo sucks.

460 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:15:27am

Morning Lizards. Don't know if this has been posted, but it needs to be read by everyone concerned about the real effects of an Obama presidency. It scares the poop out of all of us (I hope), but hadn't thought too much about how the rest of the world is watching, fearfully, us here in America. How we choose our leaders will have far reaching ramifications.
FTA

Obama assumes that Islamic terrorism is driven by despair, poverty, inflammatory US policy and the American presence on Muslim soil in the Persian Gulf. Thus he adopts the agenda of the Islamists themselves. This is not surprising since many of his connections suggest that that the man who may be elected President of a country upon which the Islamists have declared war is himself firmly in the Islamists’ camp. Daniel Pipes lists Obama’s extensive connections to Islamists in general and the Nation of Islam in particular, and concludes with this astounding observation:

Obama's multiple links to anti-Americans and subversives mean he would fail the standard security clearance process for Federal employees. Islamic aggression represents America’s strategic enemy; Obama’s many insalubrious connections raise grave doubts about his fitness to serve as America's commander-in-chief.

Read it all

461 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:18:07am

Beach Lover, it was a thread.

462 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:19:01am

re: #453 littleoldlady

For all that some members of our government wish we were more like France, they should be thanking their lucky stars that the citoyens aren't like the French.

/got blood in the streets?

//It's just a phase. They'll outgrow it.

463 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:21:30am

re: #459 MandyManners

At least it's not racist like Tokyo's.

/

464 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:21:35am

re: #462 gettinby

//It's just a phase. They'll outgrow it.

Or as my little brother (the village family idiot) says,

"He'll gravitate to the middle . He'll want to get re-elected in 4 years."

/just depressed myself. :-(
//it doesn't matter since he lives in NY anyway....

465 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:22:19am

Folks at Free Republic keep claiming to have read somewhere that there are inner-city types who think that Obama has already won the election, since he defeated Hillary in the primaries.
Anyone here heard this? Is there a source?

466 lookout  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:22:40am

I just heard Jessica Hughes (on Rusty Humphries) tell her story about the visit she got from the "thought police". Found this clip of her on Youtube, where she explains what happened. I guess we all better be very respectful and polite the next time a partisan Obama polster calls us, or we may get a visit too.

467 gettinby  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:22:52am

re: #452 rightwinger3

I was always taught that "letter of the law" and "spirit of the law" were 2 very different things. Dems look for every loophole in the letter of the law they can find, screw the spirit of the law.

See? It's there if you look hard for it...

/"We found another loophole?! YES! THAT'S THE SPIRIT!"

468 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:24:23am

re: #461 rightwinger3

Beach Lover, it was a thread.


Sorry, didn't go down thread. Well, glad it got the attention it deserved!
Thanks

469 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:24:35am

re: #465 Shiplord Kirel

Be still, my heart!

/wonder if we can convince the college kids...

470 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:25:56am

re: #465 Shiplord Kirel

Folks at Free Republic keep claiming to have read somewhere that there are inner-city types who think that Obama has already won the election, since he defeated Hillary in the primaries.
Anyone here heard this? Is there a source?

What in the world do they think is going on now?

471 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:26:04am

re: #469 littleoldlady

I'm in college, though I'm already past the point of convincing.

/absentee-voted McCain. HAH.

472 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:26:25am

re: #465 Shiplord Kirel
can anyone here be surprised?

473 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:27:02am

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day?

474 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:28:36am

re: #469 littleoldlady

Be still, my heart!

/wonder if we can convince the college kids...

What we need there is a trainload of free cannabis and a campus network to handle distribution (we could call it Amnesia International after another familiar fixture of campus progressivism). We would also need a trainload of Doritos and Oreos for follow-up.

475 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:29:19am

re: #473 HoosierHoops
Morning HH....please tell me it's not true that my birthstate is gonna flip for Obama this year?

476 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:30:29am

Hi.

477 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:30:30am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel

What we need there is a trainload of free cannabis and a campus network to handle distribution (we could call it Amnesia International after another familiar fixture of campus progressivism). We would also need a trainload of Doritos and Oreos for follow-up.

Just call the DEA..I'm sure they would be willing to help...

478 Geepers  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:30:41am

Shiplord Kirel (#465),

Folks at Free Republic keep claiming to have read somewhere that there are inner-city types who think that Obama has already won the election, since he defeated Hillary in the primaries.
Anyone here heard this? Is there a source?

Maybe they've seen people wearing these T-Shirts.

479 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:30:59am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel

What we need there is a trainload of free cannabis and a campus network to handle distribution (we could call it Amnesia International after another familiar fixture of campus progressivism). We would also need a trainload of Doritos and Oreos for follow-up.

RACSIT!

480 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:31:16am

re: #473 HoosierHoops

Paying tribute at the altar of Murphyism. You?

481 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:32:17am

re: #475 Beach Lover

Morning HH....please tell me it's not true that my birthstate is gonna flip for Obama this year?

Bad news.. We live in a small town in Indiana..2 weeks ago Obama opened an office here..The dude must be rolling around naked at night in piles of money...
/Always wanted to do that..

482 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:32:33am

re: #451 MandyManners

Speaking of the French, The Scarlet Pimpernel is on!

Daffy Duck was in "The Scarlet Pumpernickel".

483 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:32:48am

re: #476 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hi.

Good morning Veggie! what up?

484 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:33:16am

re: #478 Geepers

Shiplord Kirel (#465),

Maybe they've seen people wearing these T-Shirts.

Great shirt, I think we should all wear one for the next 10 days or so.

485 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:33:46am

re: #480 laZardo

Paying tribute at the altar of Murphyism. You?

Praising the Gawd of coffee...How goes it bro?

486 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:33:53am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel

Amnesia International! :-D

/cultivating the next generation of voters...

Geepers! :-)

Fabulous! Where does one get one of those shirts?

487 Geepers  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:34:24am

rightwinger3 (#484),

I was thinking the same thing.

488 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:35:17am

I thought my nose was bleeding, but it'snot!

489 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:35:29am

re: #482 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Daffy Duck was in "The Scarlet Pumpernickel".

I think it was you that posted that link to youtube a month or two ago.
I watched it and loved it..If they made cartoons like that I'd still be watching.

490 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:36:11am

re: #477 HoosierHoops

Just call the DEA..I'm sure they would be willing to help...

They are too busy cracking down on the wrasslers.

491 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:36:26am

re: #486 littleoldlady

Amnesia International! :-D

/cultivating the next generation of voters...

Geepers! :-)

Fabulous! Where does one get one of those shirts?

mmmm. The hoopster is thinking fruit cup...wonder where one is?
Good morning little old lady

492 Geepers  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:36:36am

littleoldlady (#486),

Zombie found someone selling them when s/he volenteered at the phone bank.

493 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:36:37am

re: #489 HoosierHoops

nah, it was the Hossenpfeffer one.

"Cook! Cook! Where's my lunch! Where's my Dinner!"

494 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:36:49am
495 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:37:13am
496 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:37:41am

re: #473 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day?

Finer than a frog's hair split three ways.

How're you?

497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:38:03am

re: #495 littleoldlady

(shudder) You should put warnings on links like that.

498 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:38:18am

re: #474 Shiplord Kirel

What we need there is a trainload of free cannabis and a campus network to handle distribution (we could call it Amnesia International after another familiar fixture of campus progressivism). We would also need a trainload of Doritos and Oreos for follow-up.

ROFLMAO!

499 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:39:01am

re: #485 HoosierHoops

As I wrap up the remnants of the Midterms weekend, I start preparing for the inevitable.

That's right, we get Quantum of Solace first, after the usual London Premiere. >=D

500 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:39:38am

re: #496 MandyManners

Finer than a frog's hair split three ways.

How're you?

Loving having a dog..never had a pet before..He is getting so spoiled..
How are you and the Kid today Mandy?

501 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:39:56am

re: #481 HoosierHoops

Bad news.. We live in a small town in Indiana..2 weeks ago Obama opened an office here..The dude must be rolling around naked at night in piles of money...
/Always wanted to do that..


Heh, well that thought aside....the whole money thing has me more than a little sceptical. I'm sure he knew he was gonna get a bunch of illegal donotions from God knows where, and was just another lie on his part to take public financing.

words....just words
*spit*

502 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:40:17am

re: #489 HoosierHoops

I think it was you that posted that link to youtube a month or two ago.
I watched it and loved it..If they made cartoons like that I'd still be watching.

The old Warner Brothers 'toons were high art. I am very partial to Roadrunner myself. It was the most popular tv show with GIs in Vietnam; hell, we had to shut down the war sometimes when the Roadrunner and Wile E. Coyote came on. We all rooted for Wile E. Coyote. Anyone who backed that insolent bird was suspected of being a VC spy or, worse, a CBS stringer.

503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:40:41am
504 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:42:03am

re: #494 ploome hineni

I've two e-addies for you. Does the prefix of the correct one end in 261 or 262?

505 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:42:07am

re: #499 laZardo

As I wrap up the remnants of the Midterms weekend, I start preparing for the inevitable.

That's right, we get Quantum of Solace first, after the usual London Premiere. >=D

Are you being obtuse?
LOL
good luck on midterms..under pressure dude!

506 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:42:32am

re: #491 HoosierHoops
Hoosier! :-) #257 - link isn't working for some reason... :-(

507 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:43:20am

re: #497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(shudder) You should put warnings on links like that.

"Dewey wins" SHOULD have been your warning!

/how're you feeling today?

508 quickjustice  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:44:06am

Guess that means that I don't have a quiet mind, since I am often perplexed!

-H

509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:44:15am

re: #507 littleoldlady

Think it has moved to the Bronchitis category 5. Ick!

510 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:44:39am

re: #501 Beach Lover

Heh, well that thought aside....the whole money thing has me more than a little sceptical. I'm sure he knew he was gonna get a bunch of illegal donotions from God knows where, and was just another lie on his part to take public financing.

words....just words
*spit*

Barone on Fox this morning brought up the point that obama has disabled the AVS part of the software...
Heck we've been talking abut that for days!
Hi Mr.Barone! welcome to LGF!

511 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:44:48am

re: #505 HoosierHoops

Nah, I like being acute. (;

Srsly though, while you're counting the votes over there, it'll be the morning of November 5 here, when Quantum of Solace premieres.

/it'll relax me for the actual inevitable...

512 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:44:55am

re: #500 HoosierHoops

Loving having a dog..never had a pet before..He is getting so spoiled..
How are you and the Kid today Mandy?

He's busy playing his new Madden 2009 game that the grands gave him yesterday.

I'm concerned deeply about the very high probability that he has ADHD and am TRYING to find some good information about it.

513 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:45:51am

re: #510 HoosierHoops

Barone on Fox this morning brought up the point that obama has disabled the AVS part of the software...
Heck we've been talking abut that for days!
Hi Mr.Barone! welcome to LGF!

Huh?

514 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:46:51am

I hope this 30 min. "state of the union speech" Obama is gonna give backfires just like the overplayed speeches he gave in Europe. The man really does have more money(other people's) than brains. Talk about audacity!

515 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:47:47am

re: #503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Scarlet Pumpernickel!

Thanks Veggie! I hearted that..cause i like watching old cartoons

516 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:48:39am

re: #480 laZardo

Paying tribute at the altar of Murphyism. You?

I hate the demon murphy and for all that he stands for. :p

/dealing with a larger than normal collection of idiots this morning.

517 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:48:55am

They seek him here, they seek him there
Those Frenchies seek him everywhere
Is he in heaven or is he in hell?
That demned elusive Pimpernel.

518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:49:01am

re: #512 MandyManners

A.D.H.D. is not so bad. Honestly. I've got it, makes me more scatter brained, but more creative.

How many people with ADD does it take to screw in a light-bulb?
Wanna go ride a bike?

519 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:49:49am

re: #509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Think it has moved to the Bronchitis category 5. Ick!

I take it they didn't give you an antibiotic at the doctor's office?

Here's the Mom Rule: Never go to the doctor on the first day you're sick. Go on the 3rd day. If you go right away they'll tell you you have a virus and give you cough meds. If on the third day you go and say you've had a fever for 3 days and are "blowing colors", they'll admit you have an infection and give you penicillin.

Now you have to go back, right?

520 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:49:59am
521 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:51:11am

re: #513 MandyManners

Huh?

The AVS part of credit card software makes sure that the address is legal.
Some lizard the other day make a 5 dollar donation to Obama from cave #6 in Tora bora..
I'm tempted to make a 5 dollar contribution and put my address as Red square, Moscow.

522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:51:50am

re: #519 littleoldlady

Yes ma'am. (eyes looking at ground, shuffling feet).

523 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:52:10am

re: #516 BlueCanuck

I hate the demon murphy and for all that he stands for. :p

/dealing with a larger than normal collection of idiots this morning.

Don't be hatin'!

/has to deal with such a collection every time he logs on to the art site, ye have m' sympathy.

524 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:52:13am

*sniff* *cough*

Morning, everyone. Staying home from church today. All I can do is hack and cough.

525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:53:28am

re: #524 vxbush

At least you get to stay home. I have to go and sing this morning. Gonna sound a bit froggy, but, what's a baritone to do, but go basso!

526 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:54:07am

good morning everyone....i'm sick as a dog and these dang OTC's only seem to make me worse...ugh!

527 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:54:29am

re: #524 vxbush

*sniff* *cough*

Morning, everyone. Staying home from church today. All I can do is hack and cough.

vx, see littleoldlady's #519. Hope you feel better soon.

528 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:54:32am

re: #525 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

At least you get to stay home. I have to go and sing this morning. Gonna sound a bit froggy, but, what's a baritone to do, but go basso!

Ah, but are you going to sing an octave lower? :D

529 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:54:51am

re: #524 vxbush

*sniff* *cough*

Morning, everyone. Staying home from church today. All I can do is hack and cough.

ahhh. VX..sorry you are still sick..The only time I've ever gotten a cold it was like 90 degrees outside..Summer colds suck...

530 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:55:11am

re: #518 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A.D.H.D. is not so bad. Honestly. I've got it, makes me more scatter brained, but more creative.

How many people with ADD does it take to screw in a light-bulb?
Wanna go ride a bike?

LOL!

Seriously, it's becoming a problem for him.

531 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:55:17am

*puts on filter mask* Seems like an awful lot of sick lizards in here today. Hope you all are feeling better by the 4th.

532 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:55:39am

re: #520 ploome hineni

*giggle*

533 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:55:46am

re: #527 rightwinger3

vx, see littleoldlady's #519. Hope you feel better soon.

Eh, I can't have penicillin; this is a normal reaction of my body to a cold (I know all about this); and if I go in, I get methylprednisone.

But yeah, she's right. I have a friend who takes his kids to the doctor the minute they get sick. That's just silly.

534 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:56:40am

re: #521 HoosierHoops

The AVS part of credit card software makes sure that the address is legal.
Some lizard the other day make a 5 dollar donation to Obama from cave #6 in Tora bora..
I'm tempted to make a 5 dollar contribution and put my address as Red square, Moscow.

I've a feeling that if the MFM were to pick up this story, the BHO campaign would spin it to make BHO a victim.

535 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:57:32am

re: #526 kawfytawk

good morning everyone....i'm sick as a dog and these dang OTC's only seem to make me worse...ugh!

Sorry you are feeling so bad..Have a cup of hot chocolate...
/shhhhh.. I put some irish whiskey in it...
Here ya go
*wink*

536 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:57:46am

re: #524 vxbush

*sniff* *cough*

Morning, everyone. Staying home from church today. All I can do is hack and cough.

dang vx must be going around....I have chugging oj and swiping zicam like there's no tomorrow. Apparently I am going to endure the whole list of coughing and sinus issues until it runs it's course. Woke up this am with a mild fever and earache as well...wonder if it could be the flu?

537 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:57:54am

re: #521 HoosierHoopsbetween the illegal donations, and ACORN, and the gift of the financial meltdown, not to mention the absent MSM on Ayerswrightphleigerbidenspreadthewealthgreekcolums iransmallness...
I could go own and own, how can he not win?

538 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:58:32am

re: #530 MandyManners

LOL!

Seriously, it's becoming a problem for him.

Mandy, you must remember he has a Y chromosome and he is young. Unfortunately, most of us don't get any better as we age though.

539 Geepers  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:58:42am

HoosierHoops (#521),

Scott Johnson reports that tests of the Obama website confirm that all security validation is disabled.

I went back to the Obama site and made three additional donations using the names Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Bill Ayers, all with different addresses. All the transactions went through using the same credit card. I saved screenshots of the transactions... I tried the exact same thing at the McCain site and it didn't allow the transaction."

Yes we can! (Knowingly accept millions in fraudulent donations)

540 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:59:29am
541 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:59:37am

re: #536 kawfytawk

dang vx must be going around....I have chugging oj and swiping zicam like there's no tomorrow. Apparently I am going to endure the whole list of coughing and sinus issues until it runs it's course. Woke up this am with a mild fever and earache as well...wonder if it could be the flu?

The flu involves the whole body. Once your toes start hurting, then you'll know. :D

542 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 5:59:49am

re: #512 MandyManners

I'm concerned deeply about the very high probability that he has ADHD and am TRYING to find some good information about it.

Hey, Mandy, I was surprised to hear Michael Phelps talk about this. Apparently, he suffered from it and said swimming saved him - partly the intense exercise and something to really grab his focus.

543 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:00:05am

Good morning, Lizards.
{vxbush}

Drink lots of liquids!

544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:00:18am

re: #530 MandyManners

LOL!

Seriously, it's becoming a problem for him.

No. It's becoming a problem for the people around him. He's probably fine with it! Don't freak out Mandy. There are a bunch of really good meds that can help with it.

I only take my meds when I need to focus. Other than that, hold on to your freaking hats! I have a much better ability to think when not "focused".

Just a little info for ya.

Didn't know about the A.D.D. until I was about 30.

545 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:00:37am

thanks HH....I may just have to stay looped in order to feel any relief...:O)

I am looking at it this way.....

I am just thankful I am getting it over with now instead of coming down with it 2 days before thanksgiving with a house full of guests.

546 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:00:50am

re: #543 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.
{vxbush}

Drink lots of liquids!

Yes, maam! Hot chocolate and milk chocolate and pureed Hersheys..... :D

547 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:00:53am

re: #539 Geepers

HoosierHoops (#521),

Yes we can! (Knowingly accept millions in fraudulent donations)

Holy crap if people keep testing this records will show that 100's of McCain supporters donated over 10 million to the Obama campaign. Knock it off.

548 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:01:02am

re: #538 rightwinger3

Mandy, you must remember he has a Y chromosome and he is young. Unfortunately, most of us don't get any better as we age though.

At least older folks have coping mechanisms.

549 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:01:25am

re: #540 ploome hineni

what is the problem?

Probable ADHD.

550 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:01:46am

#512 {MandyManners}

Did you see my email?

551 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:02:16am

re: #542 wahabicorridor

Hey, Mandy, I was surprised to hear Michael Phelps talk about this. Apparently, he suffered from it and said swimming saved him - partly the intense exercise and something to really grab his focus.

The country club pool is closed during the winter so maybe I'll join the Y.

552 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:02:21am

re: #548 MandyManners

At least older folks have coping mechanisms.

His coping mechanism is YOU.

553 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:02:30am

re: #541 vxbush

The flu involves the whole body. Once your toes start hurting, then you'll know. :D

nope toes don't hurt ...just neck, chest and arms right now....of course I let Wii-fit kick my butt the other day so who knows

554 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:03:27am

re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. It's becoming a problem for the people around him. He's probably fine with it! Don't freak out Mandy. There are a bunch of really good meds that can help with it.

I only take my meds when I need to focus. Other than that, hold on to your freaking hats! I have a much better ability to think when not "focused".

Just a little info for ya.

Didn't know about the A.D.D. until I was about 30.

My husband didn't get tested for it until he was closer to 35. I had thought for some time that he had problems, but he didn't really believe me until he forgot to pick up the kids from school three days in a row.

When he got tested, the psychiatrist said that a composite score over 40 was ADD; his score was over 80!

He's on meds so he's better, but he still has lots of problems concentrating on anything that doesn't completely enthrall his senses. If he has a todo list, it helps, but he'll sometimes completely forget the todo list.

555 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:03:42am

re: #543 goddessoftheclassroom

Morning goddess, welcome to the dead thread.

556 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:03:55am

re: #544 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. It's becoming a problem for the people around him. He's probably fine with it! Don't freak out Mandy. There are a bunch of really good meds that can help with it.

I only take my meds when I need to focus. Other than that, hold on to your freaking hats! I have a much better ability to think when not "focused".

Just a little info for ya.

Didn't know about the A.D.D. until I was about 30.

No, it's a problem for him. His grades slipped and he's alienating some of his friends at school. I do NOT want to go the meds route until I've exhausted other things.

557 littleoldlady  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:04:41am

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes ma'am. (eyes looking at ground, shuffling feet).

Just trying to share my hard earned experience. ;-)

re: #533 vxbush

But yeah, she's right. I have a friend who takes his kids to the doctor the minute they get sick. That's just silly.


Only took me about 3x (paying the $20 HMO co-pay) before I learned my lesson.

Can you take zicam? It does work - for a cold.
/chocolate therapy is good, too {[{vxbush!}]}

re: #536 kawfytawk

DAY 3 - if you still have a fever, off to the doctor with you! (meanwhile, advil, aspirin or tylenol for the fever)

/can I charge for this?

558 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:04:46am

re: #550 goddessoftheclassroom

#512 {MandyManners}

Did you see my email?

It's in my box. Yesterday I got about 50 spams and I'm having a doozy of a time going through and deleting.

559 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:05:27am

They are going to show Highlights of Sarah's championship game on ESPN in a few minutes..

560 alien_mind  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:05:30am

good news this morning, W, the movie, is now officially a bomb. a box office bust, a loser.

561 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:05:40am

re: #552 rightwinger3

His coping mechanism is YOU.

I cannot go to school and hold his hand.

562 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:06:34am

re: #556 MandyManners

No, it's a problem for him. His grades slipped and he's alienating some of his friends at school. I do NOT want to go the meds route until I've exhausted other things.

You might still want to talk to a psychiatrist about ways he can learn to organize himself and his work. If they can figure out how he wants to do things, they can develop some routines that he can use to stay focused, on target, and get things done.

Some folks I know can only plan to work on stuff 15 minutes at a time. So they break up their work into 15 minute segments, actually using a timer to help maintain focus and also helping them to realize that they have an "out" when the timer goes off. Then they switch to another task, and go back and forth until the work is done.

563 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:06:36am

re: #556 MandyManners

No, it's a problem for him. His grades slipped and he's alienating some of his friends at school. I do NOT want to go the meds route until I've exhausted other things.

Have you seen this site?

564 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:07:11am

re: #551 MandyManners

The country club pool is closed during the winter so maybe I'll join the Y.

The other good thing about swimming is that there's not a lof of $$$ involved for equipment, league fees, etc.

But part of what Phelps was pointing out was just intense exercise - and that doesn't have to be a formal sport - I don't recall where you live and don't know how old your son is - but snow shoveling comes to mind - as does mowing the lawn

;)

565 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:07:43am

re: #556 MandyManners

No, it's a problem for him. His grades slipped and he's alienating some of his friends at school. I do NOT want to go the meds route until I've exhausted other things.

Mandy...years ago I worked for children's therapy center outside of LA...they did research with kids who had add and adhd...providing non drug therapies. They had GREAT success. Even got a grant from the March of dimes for their work. I can give you more info if you want as it is stuff you can do at home

566 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:07:43am

re: #547 rightwinger3

Holy crap if people keep testing this records will show that 100's of McCain supporters donated over 10 million to the Obama campaign. Knock it off.

You don't understand.. nobody is testing the system without stopping payments with thier credit card company..
At least i hope everyone is canceling.

567 kansas  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:08:12am

There's been tremdous interest by the public in the box office fate of Oliver Stone's W. for its second weekend in release. Well, it ran out of steam. QED International/Lionsgate's Bush biopic sank 58% to No. 8 with $1.5 million Friday from 2,050 dates for what will probably be a $5.2M weekend. The $30M negative cost film should end up with $23M domestic box office gross by the end of its North American run. That means, with a $25M P&A investment and Lionsgate's distribution fees, the film won't recoup.

Can't think of anyone who deserves to lose money more than Oliver the Liar.

568 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:08:21am

re: #560 alien_mind

good news this morning, W, the movie, is now officially a bomb. a box office bust, a loser.

sank 58% to No. 8 with $1.5 million Friday from 2,050 dates for what will probably be a $5.2M weekend. The $30M negative cost film should end up with $23M domestic box office gross by the end of its North American run. That means, with a $25M P&A investment and Lionsgate's distribution fees, the film won't recoup.

YESSSSSSSSSS!

I wonder if the foreign distribution will help.

569 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:08:34am

re: #556 MandyManners

No, it's a problem for him. His grades slipped and he's alienating some of his friends at school. I do NOT want to go the meds route until I've exhausted other things.

My son was diagnosed with ADHD. I refused Ritalin as a medication for him. Now a few years later through proper parenting (yeah I'll toot my own horn and my wife's for that matter) I have a normal teenager and not a fucked up zombie (no offense to our local one!)

570 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:08:47am

re: #557 littleoldlady

Only took me about 3x (paying the $20 HMO co-pay) before I learned my lesson.

Can you take zicam? It does work - for a cold.
/chocolate therapy is good, too {[{vxbush!}]}

I've tried zinc lozenges before, and those were good. I don't think it was Zicam, though.

I'll be honest; with all the meds I'm on and with how freaky my body is, I'm hesitant to add anything to the mix.

My big thing is to watch my breathing, measured by my peak flows. Right now, my numbers are holding steady. But if they fall again, then I'm going to the doc.

571 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:09:18am

re: #562 vxbush

We've gotta' go through the evaluation first.

572 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:09:24am
573 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:09:48am

Watching Rove on Fox News Sunday. He is instilling a little hope on the polls for me.

574 alien_mind  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:10:58am

re: #567 kansas

haha
GMTA

575 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:15am

re: #571 MandyManners

We've gotta' go through the evaluation first.

Absolutely. But as folks are sharing, I hope you can see that there are options besides medication. You're the parent, so you get to choose!

576 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:26am

re: #561 MandyManners

I cannot go to school and hold his hand.

No. But I've been around LGF long enough to know your son has a good mother. I went through the same thing and it was tough but we both (my son and I) made it through.

577 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:29am

re: #563 goddessoftheclassroom

Have you seen this site?

Wow! I've not seen that one. Googling brings up a ton of stuff and it's hard to know which ones are legit.

578 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:31am

McCain talking about Sarah on ESPN...story about her now

579 kansas  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:37am

Raising a grand kid who had some issues. Waited for long time for meds, then went with them. OK for a while, but side effects of each one were too damaging. Just have to deal with the situation.

580 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:39am

re: #567 kansas

There's been tremdous interest by the public in the box office fate of Oliver Stone's W. for its second weekend in release. Well, it ran out of steam. QED International/Lionsgate's Bush biopic sank 58% to No. 8 with $1.5 million Friday from 2,050 dates for what will probably be a $5.2M weekend. The $30M negative cost film should end up with $23M domestic box office gross by the end of its North American run. That means, with a $25M P&A investment and Lionsgate's distribution fees, the film won't recoup.

HA
HA
HA

I'd be interested to know how Stone got funding for that POS in the first place. Whoever/whatever it was, I bet it's dried up for future projects.

Can't think of anyone who deserves to lose money more than Oliver the Liar.

581 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:11:40am

re: #555 BlueCanuck

Morning goddess, welcome to the dead thread.

{BlueCanuck}

Have you moved on yet?

582 kansas  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:12:41am

re: #580 wahabicorridor

Asshole will probably do one on Sarah Palin if McCain wins. Funded by the Saudis.

583 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:14:18am
584 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:14:22am

re: #564 wahabicorridor

The other good thing about swimming is that there's not a lof of $$$ involved for equipment, league fees, etc.

But part of what Phelps was pointing out was just intense exercise - and that doesn't have to be a formal sport - I don't recall where you live and don't know how old your son is - but snow shoveling comes to mind - as does mowing the lawn

;)

I reckon the only equipment are trunks and goggles, and we have those.

We get snow but, not in abundance. Also, the lawn is eight acres but, we've plenty of sticks and leaves.

585 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:14:40am

re: #577 MandyManners

Wow! I've not seen that one. Googling brings up a ton of stuff and it's hard to know which ones are legit.

FYI: My disabled son was on Ritalin for a while, but in his case it wasn't to help ADHD but to help his brain work. The level of neurotransmitters in his brain was below normal as a result of the brain damage, and the Ritalin helped. But I had so many mothers come up to me and say that I shouldn't let him be on Ritalin because of number of kids on it--they figured he shouldn't be on it, either.

Well, in my son's case, his brain injury was so bad that the Ritalin helped him enormously. We only took him off of it when his liver couldn't take it anymore. So while Ritalin should never be prescribed as a "kid fixer," it does have some valuable uses outside of ADHD.

586 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:14:55am

re: #565 kawfytawk

Mandy...years ago I worked for children's therapy center outside of LA...they did research with kids who had add and adhd...providing non drug therapies. They had GREAT success. Even got a grant from the March of dimes for their work. I can give you more info if you want as it is stuff you can do at home

Oh, yes. Please post the links!

587 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:14:56am

re: #559 HoosierHoops

They already showed Obama's high school game on ABC...

/note on the jersey, Obama graduated from high school two years before Michael Jordan...

588 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:15:26am

Speaking of The Kid, I gotta' get him fed. brb

589 Geepers  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:15:38am

MandyManners

Thomas Edison was a poor student. When a schoolmaster called him "addled," his furious mother took him out of the school and proceeded to teach him at home. Thomas Edison said many years later, "My mother was the making of me. She was so true, so sure of me, and I felt I had some one to live for, some one I must not disappoint."

Where would we be today if Edison had been doped down on Ritalin?

590 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:15:50am

re: #581 goddessoftheclassroom

Not yet, first day back from vacation. Apparently there's something in the works, but I forgot to get details from the supervisor last night. Too much other stuff going on to be briefed on. :p

591 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:16:36am
592 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:16:38am

Good morning, Lizards.

NFL Sunday = Another Cowboys butt kicking

593 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:17:01am

re: #591 ploome hineni

try snowshoeing or skiing on trails..........forget what it's called

geepers?

walking on skis

absolutely exhausing

Do you mean cross-country skiing?

594 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:17:23am

re: #587 laZardo

They already showed Obama's high school game on ABC...

/note on the jersey, Obama graduated from high school two years before Michael Jordan...


Couldn't hit his freethrow.

595 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:18:16am

re: #591 ploome hineni

try snowshoeing or skiing on trails..........forget what it's called

geepers?

walking on skis

absolutely exhausing


cross country

hiking is good too

plooooome!

596 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:18:26am
597 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:18:30am

re: #585 vxbush

FYI: My disabled son was on Ritalin for a while, but in his case it wasn't to help ADHD but to help his brain work. The level of neurotransmitters in his brain was below normal as a result of the brain damage, and the Ritalin helped. But I had so many mothers come up to me and say that I shouldn't let him be on Ritalin because of number of kids on it--they figured he shouldn't be on it, either.

Well, in my son's case, his brain injury was so bad that the Ritalin helped him enormously. We only took him off of it when his liver couldn't take it anymore. So while Ritalin should never be prescribed as a "kid fixer," it does have some valuable uses outside of ADHD.

Oh yes, definitely. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that in my son's instance the side effects outweighed any good it would do. It's a parent's choice though. I just want Mandy to know what I experienced if it could help her.

598 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:18:46am

Going to make some tea. Back in a bit.

599 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:18:53am
600 rightwinger3  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:19:56am

re: #589 Geepers

MandyManners

Where would we be today if Edison had been doped down on Ritalin?

Geepers...not here that's for sure.

601 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:20:10am

re: #568 MandyManners

Well, you know Hugo'll go see it. That's 8 bucks.

602 mama winger  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:20:12am

Good Sunday Morning, LGF friends !

I don't do blogging on Sundays, but I just wanted to say hi and give you a tune

There is birth, there is death, there is a plan

Have a blessed day!

603 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:20:22am

re: #599 ploome hineni

:D

hi

Basketball. Football..baseball..tennis...
Sports is good on so many levels..

604 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:20:30am

re: #585 vxbush

FYI: My disabled son was on Ritalin for a while, but in his case it wasn't to help ADHD but to help his brain work. The level of neurotransmitters in his brain was below normal as a result of the brain damage, and the Ritalin helped. But I had so many mothers come up to me and say that I shouldn't let him be on Ritalin because of number of kids on it--they figured he shouldn't be on it, either.

Well, in my son's case, his brain injury was so bad that the Ritalin helped him enormously. We only took him off of it when his liver couldn't take it anymore. So while Ritalin should never be prescribed as a "kid fixer," it does have some valuable uses outside of ADHD.

Each child has individual needs. NO ONE has the right to play "armchair doctor" with another person's child.

My son started taking Concerta when he was 13. It made a TREMENDOUS difference. He sees his doctor every six months for a reevaluation,

His symptoms began in 4th grade, and we had 4 years of frustration. The medicine was practically a miracle for us.

605 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:21:23am

re: #592 jorline

Good morning, Lizards.

NFL Sunday = Another Cowboys butt kicking

Good Morning Jorline.. We are on Monday night this week..

606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:21:47am

re: #604 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes.

607 Geepers  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:22:32am

ploome (#591),

Actually cross-country skiing was originally called snowshoeing.

"Snowshoe" Thompson.

608 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:23:59am

Only 9 more days until the Obamapalooza in Grant Park in Chicago.
I do hope that it is a very sad affair.
Ok , I know a guy , who knows a guy. Anyway a friend of mine on the RNC knows a guy with Obamas national campaign. The guy says that Obamas smug certaainty is annoying. You know that Barry has no plan B for a concession speech.
Pride goeth before the fall?

609 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:24:07am

Good lord. I've always had some ambiguous feelings about not having any children of my own. Listening to the challenges some of you deal with, I'm now convinced I would have been a complete failure.

610 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:24:36am

re: #586 MandyManners

Oh, yes. Please post the links!

Mandy, I don't have the links but will look for some of the books. Here's a bit of what I learned.

The majority of ADD/ADHD are really pretty darn smart...don't let the grades fool...many of them were early walkers. Turns out that as babies we need tactile input for development through knees and hands as they crawl. Babies put into walkers miss out on that and early walkers do as well.... This tactile input provides an electric bridge in the brain so we can sequence.

for example: for most of us when we think "I want a drink of water" its a fluid sequence. BUT for ADD/ADHD they have to process each segment...have to get up, have to get glass, have to pour water so on and so on....well let the phone ring or the doorbell go off you have to start over. This becomes frustrating. Of course it all happens a little faster than this.

These researchers I worked with found that their ADD/ADHD patient's little "electric bridge" wasn't there to provide the fluid sequencing. They further found that if they supplied tactile input needed a new ..cont

611 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:25:11am

re: #608 opnion

Only 9 more days until the Obamapalooza in Grant Park in Chicago.
I do hope that it is a very sad affair.
Ok , I know a guy , who knows a guy. Anyway a friend of mine on the RNC knows a guy with Obamas national campaign. The guy says that Obamas smug certaainty is annoying. You know that Barry has no plan B for a concession speech.
Pride goeth before the fall?


Yeah. And I can only imagine what Michelle must be like to hang out with.

blech.

612 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:26:02am

re: #572 ploome hineni

yes but how does this manifest?

maybe he just need a lot of attention and more activities

get him tired doing things, instead of watching tv

try and give him a lot more attention for a few weeks, see how he responds

Among other manifestations, I shows in his inability to stay in his seat during class, his not finishing in-class assignments and his inability to not speak up out of turn. He has plenty of physical activities at home but, he has bouts of incredibly frenzied actions.

613 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:26:03am

"bridge" was made.

Thisd was supplied by rocking in a rocking chair while reading or jumping on a trampoline for 30 minutes before homework....or crawling through tunnels on the grass for 30 minutes. Their test scores and focus improved ten fold!

614 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:26:24am

re: #609 wahabicorridor

Good lord. I've always had some ambiguous feelings about not having any children of my own. Listening to the challenges some of you deal with, I'm now convinced I would have been a complete failure.

We have 5 children..the youngest is 16..
looking back at the joy and heartache that comes with the job as a parents I wish we had 10..
Mrs. Hoopster thinks I'm nuts...Which is probably true.

615 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:27:11am

Mandy hope that made sense to you...i will find out if I still have their books of research

616 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:27:29am

re: #575 vxbush

Absolutely. But as folks are sharing, I hope you can see that there are options besides medication. You're the parent, so you get to choose!

I'm not completely adverse to medicine in general but, I'm not going there until I've exhausted other methods.

617 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:27:37am

Is there a difference between ADD and ADHD? Or is it like they're now defining autism - a 'spectrum' disorder?

618 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:28:06am

re: #611 wahabicorridor

Yeah. And I can only imagine what Michelle must be like to hang out with.

blech.

If the Obamas make it, I have nothing but pity for the White House Staff & Secret Service attached to Michelle.
She seems like such an insufferable beyouch.

619 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:28:10am

re: #576 rightwinger3

No. But I've been around LGF long enough to know your son has a good mother. I went through the same thing and it was tough but we both (my son and I) made it through.

Aw! Thanks for the vote of confidence!

620 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:28:41am

re: #617 wahabicorridor

Is there a difference between ADD and ADHD? Or is it like they're now defining autism - a 'spectrum' disorder?

add= attention deficit disorder

adhd...tack on hyperactivity disorder

621 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:28:52am

re: #616 MandyManners

I'm not completely adverse to medicine in general but, I'm not going there until I've exhausted other methods.

Good for you...
Boys can be a hand full..

622 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:29:34am

Mandy...see my 610 and 613

623 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:29:41am

Good Grief! VA Govenor Keane on saying Obama has 51 field offices set up in VA compared to 19 of McCain. And that he has realised that to win he needed lots of "exposure" and "paid people" to be successful. What? I thought they were supposed to be volunteers in those offices? Where is he getting all this money?!
went on to say if VA goes to Obama, we might as well give up. We will know pretty early on how this election is gonna end. All those important states are on EST.

624 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:30:19am

re: #579 kansas

Raising a grand kid who had some issues. Waited for long time for meds, then went with them. OK for a while, but side effects of each one were too damaging. Just have to deal with the situation.

The side-effects--both short-term and long-term--are the main reason I'm determined not to go that route unless absolutely, 100 per cent called for. What the principal said the other day about how I might want to keep him out of the military by putting him on Ritalin really pissed me off.

625 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:30:27am

re: #614 HoosierHoops

We have 5 children..the youngest is 16..
looking back at the joy and heartache that comes with the job as a parents I wish we had 10..

'we' is the operative word here. In my child-bearing years, I would have been a single mom - and I refused to do that. My own father was a very strong figure in my life. I didn't marry MR. RIGHT until I was 40 - and he was 52. Too late for us.

626 yesandno  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:31:46am

Mark Levin:

But beyond the elites and the media, my greatest concern is whether this election will show a majority of the voters susceptible to the appeal of a charismatic demagogue. This may seem a harsh term to some, and no doubt will to Obama supporters, but it is a perfectly appropriate characterization. Obama's entire campaign is built on class warfare and human envy. The "change" he peddles is not new. We've seen it before. It is change that diminishes individual liberty for the soft authoritarianism of socialism. It is a populist appeal that disguises government mandated wealth redistribution as tax cuts for the middle class, falsely blames capitalism for the social policies and government corruption (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) that led to the current turmoil in our financial markets, fuels contempt for commerce and trade by stigmatizing those who run successful small and large businesses, and exploits human imperfection as a justification for a massive expansion of centralized government. Obama's appeal to the middle class is an appeal to the "the proletariat," as an infamous philosopher once described it, about which a mythology has been created. Rather than pursue the American Dream, he insists that the American Dream has arbitrary limits, limits Obama would set for the rest of us — today it's $250,000 for businesses and even less for individuals. If the individual dares to succeed beyond the limits set by Obama, he is punished for he's now officially "rich." The value of his physical and intellectual labor must be confiscated in greater amounts for the good of the proletariat (the middle class). And so it is that the middle class, the birth-child of capitalism, is both celebrated and enslaved — for its own good and the greater good. The "hope" Obama represents, therefore, is not hope at all. It is the misery of his utopianism imposed on the individual.

Read it all:
[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

627 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:32:07am

re: #585 vxbush

FYI: My disabled son was on Ritalin for a while, but in his case it wasn't to help ADHD but to help his brain work. The level of neurotransmitters in his brain was below normal as a result of the brain damage, and the Ritalin helped. But I had so many mothers come up to me and say that I shouldn't let him be on Ritalin because of number of kids on it--they figured he shouldn't be on it, either.

Well, in my son's case, his brain injury was so bad that the Ritalin helped him enormously. We only took him off of it when his liver couldn't take it anymore. So while Ritalin should never be prescribed as a "kid fixer," it does have some valuable uses outside of ADHD.

One concern I have is the rapidity with which his teacher and the principal brought it up. The teacher has a son on Concerta, and the principal has a grandchild with ADHD.

628 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:32:35am

re: #589 Geepers

MandyManners


Where would we be today if Edison had been doped down on Ritalin?

In the dark!

629 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:32:38am

re: #617 wahabicorridor

Is there a difference between ADD and ADHD? Or is it like they're now defining autism - a 'spectrum' disorder?

ADD is attention deficit disorder; ADHD is attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, My son has ADHD. I bless the friend of mine who suggested we have him evaluated if only to rule it out, He didn't have the physical hyperactivity, so it never occurred to me. It turns out that his brain fires in several directions as once, making it hard (impossible) for him to focus his thought processes.

630 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:32:42am

This is awful, Lee Majors , the Six Million Dollar (bionic) Man is now doing commercials for "Bionic hearing aides." This is just wrong
It's like James Bond if he ws pushing , The Villages.

631 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:33:09am

re: #591 ploome hineni

try snowshoeing or skiing on trails..........forget what it's called

geepers?

walking on skis

absolutely exhausing

Not enough snow here for that!

632 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:33:34am

re: #623 Beach Lover

Good Grief! VA Govenor Keane on saying Obama has 51 field offices set up in VA compared to 19 of McCain. And that he has realised that to win he needed lots of "exposure" and "paid people" to be successful. What? I thought they were supposed to be volunteers in those offices? Where is he getting all this money?!
went on to say if VA goes to Obama, we might as well give up. We will know pretty early on how this election is gonna end. All those important states are on EST.


Keane is a bastard. He's trying to get felons in VA cleared to vote. He's jockeying for a position of some sort in an Obama admin. Embarrassed to say I don't even know who our LT. Gov is, but whoever it is, it's got to be better than this doofus.

633 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:33:39am

re: #620 kawfytawk

add= attention deficit disorder

adhd...tack on hyperactivity disorder

Some doctors lump them together. It used to be just ADD, and then they added in the H to encompass those who exhibit the hyperactivity.

634 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:34:10am

re: #597 rightwinger3

Oh yes, definitely. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that in my son's instance the side effects outweighed any good it would do. It's a parent's choice though. I just want Mandy to know what I experienced if it could help her.

I've a feeling we're in for a long effort but, I'm not detered. I like challenges.

635 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:34:19am

re: #627 MandyManners

Get a real diagnosis. Too many people slap an ADD/ADHD label on children they don't want to handle. Seen it happen up there to friends kids and co-workers.

636 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:34:26am

Gotta' get him ready for church. brb

637 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:34:52am

re: #618 opnion

If the Obamas make it, I have nothing but pity for the White House Staff & Secret Service attached to Michelle.
She seems like such an insufferable beyouch.

I think Crrrack & Michelle will change, with all the stateliness they can muster. Unfortunately we'll still suffer his rule.

638 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:35:16am

re: #629 goddessoftheclassroom

It turns out that his brain fires in several directions as once, making it hard (impossible) for him to focus his thought processes.

How do they figure that out? What tests do they do? Amazing.

639 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:35:28am

Oops. Got ahead of myself.

640 yochanan  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:35:53am

re: #617 wahabicorridor

Is there a difference between ADD and ADHD? Or is it like they're now defining autism - a 'spectrum' disorder?

WHOLE ADD/ADHD thing is very problematic for me. not an accident that most students that are told they have it are male. male behavior is differnet the female behavior and schools are set up girls. the whole problem is deciding what is normal. boys do much better with hands on things than girls. it is not an accident that current college students are 55% female.

641 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:36:01am

re: #638 wahabicorridor

How do they figure that out? What tests do they do? Amazing.

Probably a PET scan. Or any other scan that monitors brain function.

642 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:36:21am

re: #627 MandyManners

One concern I have is the rapidity with which his teacher and the principal brought it up. The teacher has a son on Concerta, and the principal has a grandchild with ADHD.

Yes, I agree. I think we all have a tendency to think that if it helps [my relative], then it will help your son. That just isn't true in all cases.

And the idea that you can use the meds to avoid military service is just as slimy as can be. Blech.

643 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:36:22am

re: #625 wahabicorridor

'we' is the operative word here. In my child-bearing years, I would have been a single mom - and I refused to do that. My own father was a very strong figure in my life. I didn't marry MR. RIGHT until I was 40 - and he was 52. Too late for us.

Want a 16 year old boy that has a drivers license and a truck?

644 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:36:33am

re: #604 goddessoftheclassroom

Each child has individual needs. NO ONE has the right to play "armchair doctor" with another person's child.

My son started taking Concerta when he was 13. It made a TREMENDOUS difference. He sees his doctor every six months for a reevaluation,

His symptoms began in 4th grade, and we had 4 years of frustration. The medicine was practically a miracle for us.

That's the drug his teacher's kid is on.

645 yesandno  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:36:56am

And to think I might miss the great Obamanation of a speech tonight because I am at a rally for Sarah Palin............................

Can life get much better?

/well a win on the 4th of next month would certainly make things a bunch better...but for now..................................ahhhhhh..... :)

646 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:37:00am

Early voting this morning in Maywood Illinois, a very Obama voter rich area.
Sunday morning & turnout is huge , with some lines as long as two hours.
If you think that the Demorats are pleased , you are wrong. Ya ready?
They are claiming that these long lines amount to voter supression of poor peole!

647 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:37:06am

Speaking of elections...

Any opinions on what may be upcoming ones in Israel?

648 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:37:24am

A book that helped me was "You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid or Crazy?".

It's for adults with A.D.D., but it also gives some insight on how adults deal with it.

649 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:38:37am

Good morning all y'all - from a coolish (48 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

I'm doing fine myself, expecting the Geek Squad in a couple of hours to (I hope) fix this computer once and (probably NOT) for all times! LOL

How is everyone doing this fine morning?

650 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:38:43am

re: #640 yochanan

WHOLE ADD/ADHD thing is very problematic for me. not an accident that most students that are told they have it are male. male behavior is differnet the female behavior and schools are set up girls. the whole problem is deciding what is normal. boys do much better with hands on things than girls. it is not an accident that current college students are 55% female.

DING DING DING! We have a winner. Yochanan is spot on here. I've heard about this and now I've seen it in action.

651 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:03am

re: #638 wahabicorridor

How do they figure that out? What tests do they do? Amazing.

He was evaluated by a psychologist and his pediatrician, who has extensive experience with adolescent behaviors.

652 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:08am

re: #633 vxbush

Some doctors lump them together. It used to be just ADD, and then they added in the H to encompass those who exhibit the hyperactivity.

My personal opinion ...knowing what i learned at the children's therapy center. The hyperactivity part comes from the kids who have not yet found how to "overcome" some of the obstacles of ADD.

Some kids rock, some kids tap their pencils incessantly, some hop from one foot to the other....all different ways to "build that electric bridge" that I mentioned in my 610/613 posts. Of course I don't have proof but that was the working theory at the time.

again...just my opinion and small posts like this don't allow me the time to elaborate.

653 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:21am
The majority of ADD/ADHD are really pretty darn smart...don't let the grades fool...many of them were early walkers. Turns out that as babies we need tactile input for development through knees and hands as they crawl. Babies put into walkers miss out on that and early walkers do as well.... This tactile input provides an electric bridge in the brain so we can sequence.

re: #610 kawfytawk

His testing scores over the past three years put him in the top three of his grade and, he started walking at nine months.

654 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:32am

re: #649 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a coolish (48 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

I'm doing fine myself, expecting the Geek Squad in a couple of hours to (I hope) fix this computer once and (probably NOT) for all times! LOL

How is everyone doing this fine morning?

{realwest}

How are things?

655 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:42am

re: #640 yochanan

WHOLE ADD/ADHD thing is very problematic for me. not an accident that most students that are told they have it are male. male behavior is differnet the female behavior and schools are set up girls. the whole problem is deciding what is normal. boys do much better with hands on things than girls. it is not an accident that current college students are 55% female.

You know, that concerns me also. This isn't about Mandy's or other's specific situation but about what the hell is going on in schools. When I was in grammer school (10 years before G-d) started making dirt) we had proably a 50-50 split between male and female teachers. Now I think it's about 90% female and far too many of them have grown up in a society that emasculates males as a matter of course - starting with rambunctous boys.

Very disturbing.

656 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:55am

re: #605 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Jorline.. We are on Monday night this week..

Good morning, Hoopster.

The Cowboys are still hopeful of making the Texas 5A State Championships.

657 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:39:59am

re: #647 laZardo

Speaking of elections...

Any opinions on what may be upcoming ones in Israel?

Tzipi Livni was supposed to announce upcoming elections today but she's delayed the meeting for this while doing some last minute coalition negotiating.

Ugh!

Israel needs to go to elections!

I won't breathe right until I hear that the elections are set to happen.

658 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:40:01am

re: #615 kawfytawk

Mandy hope that made sense to you...i will find out if I still have their books of research

Thanks!

659 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:40:06am

re: #649 realwest

Wondering if the Geek Squad will do a little proselytizing. Make sure they don't see what you've been typing up to. >_>

660 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:40:14am

Now I gotta' go get him ready. brb

661 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:40:26am

re: #649 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a coolish (48 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

I'm doing fine myself, expecting the Geek Squad in a couple of hours to (I hope) fix this computer once and (probably NOT) for all times! LOL

How is everyone doing this fine morning?

We're giving MandyManners moral support. She's trying to figure out if her son has ADHD and what her options are besides medication.

662 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:40:59am

A Business Bunny reporter on FNC is saying that the Saudis are most unhappy, because they are unable to manipulate the price of crude up.
They are also reporting that Wall Street is unhappy that oil is coming down.
Yeah, lets give them another bailout.

663 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:41:26am

re: #632 wahabicorridor

Hey! You're in VA? Whereabouts?

664 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:41:30am

re: #656 jorline

Good morning, Hoopster.

The Cowboys are still hopeful of making the Texas 5A State Championships.

Ouch!

665 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:41:45am

re: #649 realwest

Morning Real.

666 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:42:08am

re: #653 MandyManners

His testing scores over the past three years put him in the top three of his grade and, he started walking at nine months.

yep....my daughter was a preemie....found out the extra 2 months in the womb would have provided the "massage"/tactile input she would need to do all kinds of stuff including weight gain. this line of research is absolutely interesting.

667 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:42:25am

re: #654 goddessoftheclassroom Hey {goddess} - it's good to see you! Things be ok, as I indicated I have high hopes that the Geek Squad will be able to fix this stupid computer once and for all today!
How are you doing this fine morning?

668 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:42:27am

re: #643 HoosierHoops

Want a 16 year old boy that has a drivers license and a truck?


As long as you're paying the insurance on the truck - YES!

I adore young men - they're such a work in progress and are an emormous amount of fun!

669 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:42:28am

Good Morning RealWest!

670 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:42:34am

re: #649 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a coolish (48 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

I'm doing fine myself, expecting the Geek Squad in a couple of hours to (I hope) fix this computer once and (probably NOT) for all times! LOL

How is everyone doing this fine morning?

Good morning, RW. Did you get your computer fixed?

671 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:43:44am

re: #655 wahabicorridor

You know, that concerns me also. This isn't about Mandy's or other's specific situation but about what the hell is going on in schools. When I was in grammer school (10 years before G-d) started making dirt) we had proably a 50-50 split between male and female teachers. Now I think it's about 90% female and far too many of them have grown up in a society that emasculates males as a matter of course - starting with rambunctous boys.

Very disturbing.

I agree. Part of the problem (IMHO) is all the "can't we just get along?" discipline philosophy. Boys are PHYSICAL--they shove and hit each other, and the "zero tolerance" approach ends up punishing them. The WORST thing is that if a victim in a fight hits back, he gets the same punishment as the guy who started it, Bullying is a HUGE issue in schools (and girls are among the worst, especially in terms of verbal/emotional abuse), but bullies only stop when someone stands up to them,

672 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:44:28am

re: #651 goddessoftheclassroom

He was evaluated by a psychologist and his pediatrician, who has extensive experience with adolescent behaviors.


Ah. That must be had for a kid to go through. And frightening.

good morning realwest!

673 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:44:38am

re: #664 HoosierHoops

Ouch!

Bright news is that Jason Garrett will be the coach soon.

Romo is Danny White in drag...lol

674 yesandno  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:44:55am

re: #635 BlueCanuck

Get a real diagnosis. Too many people slap an ADD/ADHD label on children they don't want to handle. Seen it happen up there to friends kids and co-workers.


A friend of mine had a daughter who was having trouble in 3rd grade. The teacher said she was suffering from ADD. Told her to take her to a physician and get her help. Turns out that the child had gone to a church kindergarten and had not learned to read there (and her mother was a single mother working and going to school) and when she went from there to first grade, to second grade, to third, no one bothered to see she learned to read. I volunteered to tutor the girl and taught her to read..and then kept her for a couple of years helping with math. The child was fine, was a good student, and ended up making great grades.

Make sure you ask experts instead of those who think they are experts. Most of all, ask good questions.

675 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:45:04am

Regarding this issue of behaviors:

I have some very dear friends who are having a hard time right now. Their son is in prison for a crime he admits he committed. He has had mental illness issues for years, but they went to visit him recently and were stunned. He has lost about 40 pounds and is more settled than they have seen him in years, and he's been off medication for over a year. Apparently the regimented structure of the prison provides him a lot of help, and so he's been able to finally make some progress in his life.

I worry greatly that when he leaves prison he will fall back into his previous behaviors and start the spiral again, but I hope he can see what the structure has done for him and see if he can continue it outside.

676 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:45:14am

re: #659 laZardo Nah, if anyone is gonna do any proselytizing it'll be me, gently (at first) mentioning how their taxes are gonna go up and they'll be lucky to have a job if Obama wins!
I do it every single chance I get - it's getting to the point that I'm disappointed when I run into a McCain voter! LOL!
How are you doing this afternoon?

677 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:46:03am

re: #630 opnion

This is awful, Lee Majors , the Six Million Dollar (bionic) Man is now doing commercials for "Bionic hearing aides." This is just wrong
It's like James Bond if he was pushing The Villages.

In his later years, Evel Knievel was a spokeman for an electric mobility scooters manufacturer...

678 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:46:08am

Some of the most successful people on the planet are ADD. It is not cancer! A lot of prisoners are ADD also. It is how they decide to use their power. I look at it as power, Mandy.

679 bbuddha  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:46:57am

re: #624 MandyManners

My now 18 y.o. was diagnosed ADHD and the teacher and principal were very upset with me when I refused to medicate my child. Now she is a self sufficient adult. I controlled her diet, made sure she had lots of physical activity and made sure that she had consequences for bad behavior.
weird, I start talking about her and she's on the phone. bbl

680 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:47:29am

re: #677 Dar ul Harb

In his later years, Evel Knievel was a spokeman for an electric mobility scooters manufacturer...

Okay, but why do I have this image of him riding a scooter over a ramp and flying over 10 scooters lined up below?

681 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:47:39am

re: #673 jorline

Bright news is that Jason Garrett will be the coach soon.

Romo is Danny White in drag...lol

Their play calling is half the problem, Garrett is not as good as advertised.

682 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:47:41am

re: #649 realwest

Good morning real.

I hope your Giants do well in Pittsburgh today.

I think the Giants #1 receiver, Burress, is going to be having problems getting playing time. I heard from a reliable source that Coughlin has about had it with him. Apparently last week, Burress got a penalty, and then added on a 15 yarder for getting in the officials face over it. As he got to the sidelines, Coughlin asked him what he was doing out there and Burress yelled in Coughlin's face "Any thing I f***ing want!" and walked away.

Not a good think to do to the head coach.

683 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:47:50am

The most beautiful woman in the world has breakfast ready..
Be back later..maybe.

684 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:48:15am

re: #661 vxbush Whoa. Geez Mandy I truly wish you the best of luck but I know very little about ADHD, how it's diagnosed and what treatment options are available I'm afraid.
I just hope everything works out for Mandy and her son.
Wish I could offer some words of advice or wisdom but I really can't - so again, I'll just wish Mandy and the kiddo the very best of luck.

685 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:48:47am

re: #671 goddessoftheclassroom

I agree. Part of the problem (IMHO) is all the "can't we just get along?" discipline philosophy. Boys are PHYSICAL--they shove and hit each other, and the "zero tolerance" approach ends up punishing them. The WORST thing is that if a victim in a fight hits back, he gets the same punishment as the guy who started it, Bullying is a HUGE issue in schools (and girls are among the worst, especially in terms of verbal/emotional abuse), but bullies only stop when someone stands up to them,


In 5th grade I had a bully problem with a boy named Ricky. It was to the point where he would deliberately accost me on the playground and lift up my dress, etc.

Dad spent an hour or so with me showing me how to punch like a boy (no roundhouse punches) and told me to take care of it.

I did. The school made Mom take me home and Mom called Dad. Dad left work and went to the school. He said, and I quote "If you can't protect my daughter from a punk kid, who is going to protect you from me?"

I was back in school the next day - no more problems.

Things sure have changed.

686 Pullus Iulius  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:48:54am

re: #623 Beach Lover

Don't get psyched out early. Norfolk, Richmond and NoVA will be the first to report, barring any counting snafus. They'll go heavy for the 0. If the 2nd and 3rd congressional districts stay in GOP hands, it will speak well for Hampton Roads in general. Virginia could either go late, or be overwhelmed by a NoVa 0 tidal wave. I pray for my Old Dominion.

687 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #665 opnion
Good morning opnion - how are you today?

688 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:49:11am

re: #677 Dar ul Harb

In his later years, Evel Knievel was a spokeman for an electric mobility scooters manufacturer...

Stop the madness!

689 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:49:14am

Okay, random question time:

If you had to match up our two presidential candidates to professional football teams, which team would be Obama and which would be McCain? And why?

690 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:49:24am

re: #676 realwest

Finishing off the rest of the midterm load...and preparing for the inevitable.

/Quantum of Solace premiering here on the 5th, can't wait...

691 yesandno  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:50:39am

re: #646 opnion

Early voting this morning in Maywood Illinois, a very Obama voter rich area.
Sunday morning & turnout is huge , with some lines as long as two hours.
If you think that the Demorats are pleased , you are wrong. Ya ready?
They are claiming that these long lines amount to voter supression of poor peole!

They ought to be happy. From what I have seen here, it is the upper middle-class, older generation that is turning out in droves for the Obamanation. Must be the guilt factor.

692 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:50:51am

re: #669 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops - how's it going?

693 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:51:26am

re: #685 wahabicorridor

In 5th grade I had a bully problem with a boy named Ricky. It was to the point where he would deliberately accost me on the playground and lift up my dress, etc.

Dad spent an hour or so with me showing me how to punch like a boy (no roundhouse punches) and told me to take care of it.

I did. The school made Mom take me home and Mom called Dad. Dad left work and went to the school. He said, and I quote "If you can't protect my daughter from a punk kid, who is going to protect you from me?"

I was back in school the next day - no more problems.

Things sure have changed.

Now he'd be suspended for sexual harassment, I can't help but think that a sift punch from a girl sorts the problem out instantly.

I told my boys that they'd better never swing the first punch--but they had my blessing to swing the last one,

694 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:51:27am

re: #671 goddessoftheclassroom

I agree. Part of the problem (IMHO) is all the "can't we just get along?" discipline philosophy. Boys are PHYSICAL--they shove and hit each other, and the "zero tolerance" approach ends up punishing them. The WORST thing is that if a victim in a fight hits back, he gets the same punishment as the guy who started it, Bullying is a HUGE issue in schools (and girls are among the worst, especially in terms of verbal/emotional abuse), but bullies only stop when someone stands up to them,

You don't know the half of it. I got expelled for fighting back against someone who started a fight with me. I'm fairly sure the other guy got expelled too, I checked the yearbook the year I got kicked out and his senior-year entry was blank.

But for five years I had to live with the impression that he got a slap on the wrist because he was a rich kid.

/'standing up for yourself' is BS.

695 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:52:26am

re: #693 goddessoftheclassroom

Now he'd be suspended for sexual harassment, I can't help but think that a swift punch from a girl to the right spot sorts the problem out instantly.

I told my boys that they'd better never swing the first punch--but they had my blessing to swing the last one.

/fix'd

//liked that King of the Hill episode

696 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:52:42am

re: #670 jorline
Good morning my friend! No, they aren't supposed to get here for another few hours, but I have some semi-serious cleaning up to do in my room and on my computer desk before they get here! LOL!
How are you doing - how are the aches and pains today? Better, I hope!

697 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:52:46am

re: #686 Pullus Iulius

me. too. followed by prayers for NC, FL, et al.

698 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:53:22am

re: #694 laZardo

You don't know the half of it. I got expelled for fighting back against someone who started a fight with me. I'm fairly sure the other guy got expelled too, I checked the yearbook the year I got kicked out and his senior-year entry was blank.

But for five years I had to live with the impression that he got a slap on the wrist because he was a rich kid.

/'standing up for yourself' is BS.

And that's what's wrong, Most bullies get a sense of being untouchable because the typical "consequences" (suspension, detention, etc) don't hurt them as much as they hurt others,

699 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:53:23am

re: #681 akak

Their play calling is half the problem, Garrett is not as good as advertised.

I respectfully disagree akak. Have there been mistakes...yes. The lack of offensive execution has been a major problem and the defensive backfield has killed us this year. Romo continues to make mistake after mistake and I don't think he's a leader.

700 wahabicorridor  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:53:50am

Ok, off to the grocery store. Comfort food tonight - meatloaf and mashed potatoes

701 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:54:01am

re: #672 wahabicorridor
Hey good morning wahabi! What's new with you - how are ya doing today?

702 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:54:19am

Best wishes for Mandy and son. You will be in my prayers.

703 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:55:17am

of course PA and OH also...and how sweet would it be if Murtha lost?!

704 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:55:32am

re: #674 yesandno
"Make sure you ask experts instead of those who think they are experts. Most of all, ask good questions."
Superb advice, but how does one go about finding true experts?

705 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:55:48am

re: #696 realwest

Good morning my friend! No, they aren't supposed to get here for another few hours, but I have some semi-serious cleaning up to do in my room and on my computer desk before they get here! LOL!
How are you doing - how are the aches and pains today? Better, I hope!

I'm doing ok...thanks RW. Hey....don't hide everything under your bed...lol

706 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:55:52am

re: #698 goddessoftheclassroom

'specially when I went to a school attended by diplomats' kids, foreigners and the local rich. Parents selected it after they found I had a 140 IQ in kindergarten, and I forced myself to stay on because (and I still do believe) "you get what you pay for in education."

They told me that if you can't ignore them, tell on them or just verbally shout them down. Assuming all 'victimized' kids could do that.

/lot of good that did. IIRC I was on Zoloft for several months afterward.

707 bbuddha  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:56:20am

re: #685 wahabicorridor

It sure has changed. When I was in school I took care of a bully and he was no longer a problem and I didnt get in trouble. Pretty obvious he was the aggressor and that meant something back then.
when my daughter was in school I was always "visiting" the principal to explain yet again that I didn't raise a victim and I wasn't going to let them victimize her because she stood up for herself. They are creating a bunch of dysfunctional people who have no idea how to deal with any situation because they have always had to "get a teacher"

708 jorline  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:56:41am

bbl

709 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:57:06am

re: #704 realwest


Superb advice, but how does one go about finding true experts?

There's probably an expert on that subject...if only I could find him...

/ [;

710 jetprop  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:58:06am

Morning Lizards..sunny & pleasant here in North Fl with a touch of fall in the air.

711 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:59:01am

re: #707 bbuddha

It sure has changed. When I was in school I took care of a bully and he was no longer a problem and I didnt get in trouble. Pretty obvious he was the aggressor and that meant something back then.
when my daughter was in school I was always "visiting" the principal to explain yet again that I didn't raise a victim and I wasn't going to let them victimize her because she stood up for herself. They are creating a bunch of dysfunctional people who have no idea how to deal with any situation because they have always had to "get a teacher"

Yep. And kids, even the victims, are very reluctant to "snitch." As a teacher, I try my best to vigilant to spot it myself, and woe unto any brat I catch,

My favorite line: "Are you naturally a jerk, or do you work at it?"

712 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:59:13am

re: #687 realwest

Good morning opnion - how are you today?

My eyes are bleeding from watching too much college football yesterday.
Last night was a challenge, back & forth between Notre Dame/Washington & Penn State/ Ohio State.
I am not thrilled that Illinois got upset by Wisconsin.
How's your own self?

713 Beach Lover  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 6:59:40am

Bye, lizards. Have a great day!
/mmmmm meatloaf and mashed potaotes

714 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:00:12am

re: #699 jorline

I agree that Romo makes a lot of mistakes. He tends to stare down his receiver and he has been in the NFL too long to do that. He knows better.

Everybody in the NFL has corners and safeties with enough speed to break on the ball if you stare down the receiver.

715 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:03:22am

re: #685 wahabicorridor

My Mom beat up a boy when she was in the first grade for picking on her kindergarten aged sister.

Her parents were called and she was scolded.

My grandparents didn't know what to think, but the boys at school definitely never picked on my aunt again (or my Mom.)

My Mom was a beautiful little girl but she could pack a wallop.

716 bbuddha  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:05:25am

re: #711 goddessoftheclassroom

"My favorite line: "Are you naturally a jerk, or do you work at it?"


That is a good one, I must remember that.

717 JSK1121  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:06:22am

Israel heading (most likely) for elections;

Woohoo!

If Bibi's in office during an Obama administration, I'll feel at LOT better about the whole Iran situation.

718 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:08:19am

re: #203 Karridine

Yep. That sounds like classic ocular migraine, Karradine.
If so, it's not serious. Just annoying.
First time I had one, I was pretty freaked out about it too.
Fortunately, no headache followed.

719 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:08:28am

woohoo Chelsea wankers losing to Reds!

Go you Reds! YNWA

720 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:09:32am

re: #682 3 wood
Good morning 3-wood - say didja get my e-mail from last night?
As for the Giants/Pittsburgh game - I think the Giants will play well with or without Burress - as long as the D doesn't get any more injuries, but Pittsburgh is a formidible team and it should be a tough game. I think Burress looks in the mirror and see's T.O. - but he is good, not as great an athelete as Owens. But that kind of attitude and behavior is gonna cost him - with his team mates as well as his head coach.

721 Adina in Judea  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:09:40am

re: #717 JSK1121

Livni has delayed the meeting that would start the elections process.

I hope she goes through with calling elections.

Israel needs elections desperately.

722 jetprop  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:10:00am

I just saw Biden's interview with Barbara West on FNC. The 0bama camp seems petty and childish by canceling future interviews.

I'm glad the McCain camp is tough enough to handle tough questions/interviewers.

723 vxbush  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:10:01am

Okay. I think I'm going to go take a shower and try to clean up. I might feel better, and certainly all that steam will help.

Later, lizards.

724 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:10:02am

re: #711 goddessoftheclassroom

Seeing as how many high school 'cliques' tend to be of the generally-leftist variety, I don't see how life would really be any 'different' under the Obama administration. At least when compared to high school life.

725 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:10:10am

re: #716 bbuddha

"My favorite line: "Are you naturally a jerk, or do you work at it?"


That is a good one, I must remember that.

The best part is that if they complain to their parents, I'm VERY happy to have a conference about the matter!

726 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:10:31am

re: #723 vxbush

Cheers, vxb. Enjoy the shower.

727 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:11:15am

re: #719 akak

woohoo Chelsea wankers losing to Reds!

Go you Reds! YNWA

My (not-soon-enough-to-be) ex is a big Chelsea supporter.

Am I bad for smiling at your news?

728 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:11:46am

re: #686 Pullus Iulius
Good morning to you! Hey, Va elected Jimmy Webb, I expect Va to go for Obama. And - other than the electoral votes involved - I don't really care. Seriously, if Virginians aren't smart enough to see past Obama's silly assed increased taxes/lower employment, then they'll vote for him and there ain't much we can do about it.

729 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:11:51am

re: #710 jetprop

Morning Lizards..sunny & pleasant here in North Fl with a touch of fall in the air.

A touch of fall? Must be nice. Actually had snow north of Toronto on Wednesday.

/working on an early winter here I think.

730 StinkHammer  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:12:25am

I have to hand it to Saturday Night Live (a show I've found painfully unfunny for, oh, the last 20 years) for their skewering of Joe Biden. If the worst happens and Obama is elected, perhaps at least Blowhard Joe will consistently provide enough material for the likes of SNL that he may become the (rightful) Dan Quayle of the 21st century.

731 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:14:51am

The Washington Post is now reporting that Palins unfavorables are up!
That is a firehead slapper. Sarah Palin & her family have been subjected to a media led, savage smear campaign. If she were not a public figure , she would probably have a credible defamation suit.
A lot of these people , I hope have moments of shame.

732 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:14:53am
733 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:15:51am

re: #635 BlueCanuck

Get a real diagnosis. Too many people slap an ADD/ADHD label on children they don't want to handle. Seen it happen up there to friends kids and co-workers.

I'm looking for a pediatric psychologist this week.

734 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:16:13am

re: #689 vxbush
That's easy: Obama is last years New England Patriots - undefeated coming into the Super Bowl against the New York Giants (McCain) and NOBODY gave the Giants a chance. NE was undefeated - quite a feat all by itself - going into the Super Bowl and the lowly Giants had to win THREE playoff games in a row all of them ON THE ROAD. NE got supremely overconfident and started believing all the MSM reports that they'd kill the Giants. The Giants just kept practicing and at the Super Bowl the Giants just smacked the Patriots around like a Pinata - cause the Giant's wanted to win more than the Patriots realized until it was too late.

735 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:16:23am

re: #733 MandyManners

I'm looking for a pediatric psychologist this week.

Good. Are you near a university?

736 jetprop  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:16:30am

re: #729 BlueCanuck

For us anything below 70 is chilly..LOL.

737 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:16:32am

re: #729 BlueCanuck

A touch of fall? Must be nice. Actually had snow north of Toronto on Wednesday. /working on an early winter here I think.

We already had snow showers last Tues. here in Golden, Co (at 6000 feet high). And that night, up in the Rockies, I70 was snow packed and chain laws were in effect.

Mild 40's right now, up to 70 today. This time of year averages 60's-70's days, high 20'-40's nights.

But winter will come, right on schedule.

738 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:17:01am

re: #736 jetprop

For us anything below 70 is chilly..LOL.

OMG--that is SO my sister-in-law! LOL!

739 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:17:45am

re: #690 laZardo Uh, I don't know about Quantum of Solace but ya need to check your e-mail - I received and replied to yours!

740 bbuddha  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:17:49am

re: #722 jetprop

My honey was watching that on his computer, It was a good interview. The first I've seen that actually asked questions. I was a little disappointed that she didn't have the actual figures of what the Obama campaign paid to ACORN. And yes they did pay them.

741 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:17:49am

re: #642 vxbush

Yes, I agree. I think we all have a tendency to think that if it helps [my relative], then it will help your son. That just isn't true in all cases.

And the idea that you can use the meds to avoid military service is just as slimy as can be. Blech.

Cookie-cutters are for cookies, not for kids.

I'm still trying to figure out the principal's bullshit.

742 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:18:44am

re: #646 opnion

Early voting this morning in Maywood Illinois, a very Obama voter rich area.
Sunday morning & turnout is huge , with some lines as long as two hours.
If you think that the Demorats are pleased , you are wrong. Ya ready?
They are claiming that these long lines amount to voter supression of poor peole!

They'd bitch if you hanged them with a golden rope.

743 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:19:12am

re: #691 yesandno
How do you know that they're turning out in droves for Obama? And where is "here"?

744 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:20:22am

re: #655 wahabicorridor

You know, that concerns me also. This isn't about Mandy's or other's specific situation but about what the hell is going on in schools. When I was in grammer school (10 years before G-d) started making dirt) we had proably a 50-50 split between male and female teachers. Now I think it's about 90% female and far too many of them have grown up in a society that emasculates males as a matter of course - starting with rambunctous boys.

Very disturbing.

I do wonder about the societal expectations at play here.

745 SlartyBartfast  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:20:31am

A Drive-by Posting (sorry).

From the Dallas Morning News: Blacks worry about polls vs. reality in Obama campaign

"Every day I watch the polls and get excited because I know Barack Obama is going to win...Then it hits me. Something is going to happen. They are going to find a way to stop him."

Who's "They"? Ahhh, here's the answer...

"He's so close, and I want to believe he's going to do it," said Amber Hinton, a 20-year-old college student from Charlotte. "But it's hard for me to believe that it's going to happen. I don't think America is going to let him win."

Of course, there's this:

Many simply don't believe white voters are telling pollsters the truth about whom they'll back, though recent elections involving high-profile black candidates, including Mr. Obama's own primaries this year, suggest polls are fairly accurate.

Accurate? Two words (or, "One word," as Joe Biden would say): New Hampshire.

Some voters also suspect something more sinister – malfeasance in the counting of votes come Election Day.

No, not voter fraud, not ACORN, not questionable registrations, but counting...it's the counting that counts. I got it.

This article is messed up in so many ways...I could go on and on...

746 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:20:31am

re: #694 laZardo
If you don't stand up for yourself - who will stand up for you and why should they?

747 Truck Monkey  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:20:40am

re: #693 goddessoftheclassroom

Now he'd be suspended for sexual harassment, I can't help but think that a sift punch from a girl sorts the problem out instantly.

I told my boys that they'd better never swing the first punch--but they had my blessing to swing the last one,

I am dealing with that now. Kids are taught good citizinship and "anti-bullying" in grade school now and the end result is the bullies have the green light to act like the assholes they are and create their problems while the good kids try to live the lessons they learn in these classes. I told my son that he sure as hell better protect himself from the bullies or the bullying would get worse. I told his teacher that my son would not start any fight but he would most certainly end it. The school moved my son out of his class an in to another based on what I told his teacher. Times sure are different.

748 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:20:46am

re: #742 MandyManners

They'd bitch if you hanged them with a golden rope.


That's the thing. Demorats are always looking for a cross to hop on.
The victim culture is what establishes the predicate to destroy the Middle Class with taxes.

749 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:21:34am

re: #666 kawfytawk

yep....my daughter was a preemie....found out the extra 2 months in the womb would have provided the "massage"/tactile input she would need to do all kinds of stuff including weight gain. this line of research is absolutely interesting.

The Kid was not defined as a preemie but, he was born a few weeks earlier than expected.

750 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:21:54am

re: #737 Walter L. Newton

Well at 6000' ASL I expect that. The areas that got snow are around 750' ASL. :)

/then again it is Canada.

751 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:22:31am

re: #705 jorline
"don't hide everything under your bed."
uh, oh. Why not?! I mean they're just gonna look at my computer not under my be...nevermind!

752 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:22:40am

re: #739 realwest

And speaking of Brits, Quantum of Solace is the new James Bond movie, Quantum being the new SPECTRE. Interestingly, the Quantum bigwig's "front corporation" in this movie deals with 'reforestation.'

/hmm.... (;

753 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:23:30am

re: #745 SlartyBartfast

RACISM.

/cleaned up that mess for ya. [;

754 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:23:47am

re: #679 bbuddha

My now 18 y.o. was diagnosed ADHD and the teacher and principal were very upset with me when I refused to medicate my child. Now she is a self sufficient adult. I controlled her diet, made sure she had lots of physical activity and made sure that she had consequences for bad behavior.
weird, I start talking about her and she's on the phone. bbl

I've been looking for information about diet.

755 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:24:24am

re: #684 realwest

Whoa. Geez Mandy I truly wish you the best of luck but I know very little about ADHD, how it's diagnosed and what treatment options are available I'm afraid.
I just hope everything works out for Mandy and her son.
Wish I could offer some words of advice or wisdom but I really can't - so again, I'll just wish Mandy and the kiddo the very best of luck.

Thanks!

756 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:25:07am

re: #712 opnion
Well as I've indicated I'm busy as hell hiding stuff under my bed putting things away and cleaning up for the Geek Squad!
Other than that I'm doing ok, thanks!
Fortunately I no longer follow college football cause the major college powers are just underpaid pro's!

757 JSK1121  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:25:37am

re: #721 Adina in Judea

Livni has delayed the meeting that would start the elections process.

I hope she goes through with calling elections.

Israel needs elections desperately.

Well Shas is out, so she's pretty much go to call for elections due to her lack of a coalition.

Obama + Livni = The End of Israel with the USA next. I don't want to find out what that entails.

758 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:25:52am

re: #702 3 wood

Best wishes for Mandy and son. You will be in my prayers.

Thanks!

759 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:26:38am

re: #756 realwest

Well as I've indicated I'm busy as hell hiding stuff under my bed putting things away and cleaning up for the Geek Squad!
Other than that I'm doing ok, thanks!
Fortunately I no longer follow college football cause the major college powers are just underpaid pro's!


Yeah "Student Athlete" is an oxymoron. Still I am addicted.

760 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:26:48am

re: #714 3 wood Um, (cough, cough) didja check your e-mails from last night?!

761 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:27:26am

re: #758 MandyManners

Thanks!

May I add you and the Kid to the prayer list?

762 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:29:23am

re: #727 goddessoftheclassroom No you're not bad, I just have NO IDEA what the heck you're talking about!
What's Chelsea (other than the daughter of Bill and Hillary)?

763 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:30:05am

re: #735 goddessoftheclassroom

Good. Are you near a university?

Yes but, it's not a major school. I don't know if it has a graduate program in psychology.

764 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:31:49am

re: #748 opnion

That's the thing. Demorats are always looking for a cross to hop on.
The victim culture is what establishes the predicate to destroy the Middle Class with taxes.

Victimology is a huge industry.

765 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:31:56am

re: #749 MandyManners

The Kid was not defined as a preemie but, he was born a few weeks earlier than expected.

well the early walker fits the profile of the tactile input scenario. They found a huge increase in ADD/ADHD after child walkers were introduced/used.

766 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:32:08am

re: #732 goddessoftheclassroom AHAHAHAH! I'm ROTFLMAO! That was a great one - Chris Muir has been knocking 'em out of the park for weeks now!

767 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:32:12am

re: #758 MandyManners

Thanks!

Mandy, I came late to this thread, so I do not have all of the details.
Are you required to authorize treatments through a Medical Review Organization?
If you are, you may want to contact their Medical Director or VP of Medial Services & try to enlist them as your patient advocate.
The Medical Delivery System is complex & they can really help.
Just a thought.

768 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:32:27am

re: #761 goddessoftheclassroom

May I add you and the Kid to the prayer list?

That would be nice. Thank you for asking!

769 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:32:36am

re: #762 realwest

No you're not bad, I just have NO IDEA what the heck you're talking about!
What's Chelsea (other than the daughter of Bill and Hillary)?

English Premier League titan.

770 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:32:51am

re: #764 MandyManners

Victimology is a huge industry.

A growth segnment, along with prisons.

771 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:33:04am

re: #765 kawfytawk

well the early walker fits the profile of the tactile input scenario. They found a huge increase in ADD/ADHD after child walkers were introduced/used.

I wonder if the shrink will ask about it.

772 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:33:07am

re: #720 realwest

Sorry for the delay, was called to breakfast.

Just read your email and forwarded the item on to some other friends. Well done item.

With regard to Burress's antics, as a football GM I know says, "Nobody is good enough to make you want to put up with that." Can you imagine the disruption Burress is to the other players with that kind of attitude?

773 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:33:19am

re: #762 realwest

No you're not bad, I just have NO IDEA what the heck you're talking about!
What's Chelsea (other than the daughter of Bill and Hillary)?

Chelsea is an English football (soccer) team in the top tier.

774 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:33:54am

re: #736 jetprop
Morning jetprop! Well you'd be freezing you butt off up here in North Carolina - temp this morning was a lovely 48 degrees! And we're only going up to 65!

775 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:33:54am

re: #727 goddessoftheclassroom

My (not-soon-enough-to-be) ex is a big Chelsea supporter.

Am I bad for smiling at your news?


From what I understand, that's being very forgiving to your ex!

776 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:34:07am

re: #767 opnion

Mandy, I came late to this thread, so I do not have all of the details.
Are you required to authorize treatments through a Medical Review Organization?
If you are, you may want to contact their Medical Director or VP of Medial Services & try to enlist them as your patient advocate.
The Medical Delivery System is complex & they can really help.
Just a thought.

I have no idea. I'm getting started on this project.

777 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #737 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter! How are ya today?

778 bbuddha  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:34:50am

re: #754 MandyManners

The diet componet is hard on kids in this day and age.....Restrict sugar and those foods that turn immediately to sugar, white flour and most pasta (dreamfields is an exception) I kept plently of ready to eat veggies, she preferred them raw and fruit so she wouldn't feel too deprived at not having cookies or potato chips..
the activity level was just as important. she finally settled on cheerleading and when it was off-season I noticed she was much more likely to fly off the handle and have more trouble controlling herself.
Late summer became my favorite time because the coach really worked them hard daily to get them ready. obviously the activity has to fit the child. I tried to get her interested in karate but that was no go.
One of the other things I've seen mentioned here is that the children diagnosed ADHD tend to be intelligent.
From my personal experience that is true. Mine is actually gifted. Her half brother had some of the same indications of intelligence till his mother decided that medication was the answer and next time I saw him he was a zombie. I'm afraid I don't trust most doctors on this issue.

779 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:35:16am

re: #771 MandyManners

I wonder if the shrink will ask about it.

I'm not sure...Occupational/physical therapists definitely would...They work with motor/mental issues. It was those two with the help of neurologists and speech therapists that discovered this little tidbit and it really took off.

I am thinking a neuro pyschologist would

780 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:35:25am

Lizard Prayer List 10/26/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Thanksgivings
Pigtown Water Dog: "work project" and my animals.
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
turn: basal cell carcinoma (cancer) completely removed
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
realwest: recovered from dental issues
vxhush: husband recovering well from rotator cuff surgery
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...] recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
doriangrey: friend Byran's brother be life flighted back to the US and that his life be saved
mikeymom: sister undergoing tests for some problems
RememberSekhmet: moderate depression; burned out at my job and looking for a new one
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
Dublic(CA)Dude - serious health issues
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: waiting for results of tests for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery

/cont'd

781 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:35:37am

re: #770 opnion

A growth segnment, along with prisons.

Many prisoners had a truly awful childhood. But, that does not excuse them from their choices later in life.

782 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:35:51am

Prayer List, cont'd:

Family, friend, and life situations:
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
USMC1968’s family and friends: his passing
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Newsjunkie: loss of her dog
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Ausberger’s (mild autism)
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: new 7-month-old foster daughter; best result for another foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Our country facing financial challenges & the election
Georgia/Ossetia
Those dealing with the hurricanes
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

783 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:36:53am

re: #653 MandyManners

His testing scores over the past three years put him in the top three of his grade and, he started walking at nine months.

Sounds like me. I have ADHD as well. It can be overcome, but it is something this with you all the time. The overcoming has to be done everyday. It my most ernest hope that your son can overcome ADHD better than I have.

784 jetprop  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:37:47am

re: #774 realwest

Morning jetprop! Well you'd be freezing you butt off up here in North Carolina - temp this morning was a lovely 48 degrees! And we're only going up to 65!

{Shivers}..LOL

Actually, I love NC this time of year with the fall foliage.

785 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:38:41am

re: #764 MandyManners
Hi Mandy - "Victimology is a huge industry." and a growing one at that.
BTW, fwiw, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your son.

786 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:38:43am

re: #776 MandyManners

I have no idea. I'm getting started on this project.

Your health plan should list an 800 number in your Benefits booklet that you must call to get authorizations for Hospitalizations & some times listed procedures.
Even you do not need to contact them for your son , they may be willing to intervene on your behalf. If you do not find the number, the claims administrator can give it to you.

787 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:39:06am

Okay, dear Lizards, I'm going to get the bulldozer out tidy up the house. BBIAW.

788 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:39:10am

re: #778 bbuddha

The diet componet is hard on kids in this day and age.....Restrict sugar and those foods that turn immediately to sugar, white flour and most pasta (dreamfields is an exception) I kept plently of ready to eat veggies, she preferred them raw and fruit so she wouldn't feel too deprived at not having cookies or potato chips..
the activity level was just as important. she finally settled on cheerleading and when it was off-season I noticed she was much more likely to fly off the handle and have more trouble controlling herself.
Late summer became my favorite time because the coach really worked them hard daily to get them ready. obviously the activity has to fit the child. I tried to get her interested in karate but that was no go.
One of the other things I've seen mentioned here is that the children diagnosed ADHD tend to be intelligent.
From my personal experience that is true. Mine is actually gifted. Her half brother had some of the same indications of intelligence till his mother decided that medication was the answer and next time I saw him he was a zombie. I'm afraid I don't trust most doctors on this issue.

Oh, that's just awful!

His principal mentioned the intelligence factor. She seemed quite surprised, though, that his GPA was as high as it is. She also seemed surprised that none of his previous teachers had a problem with him at all.

789 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:39:48am

re: #769 laZardo
Oh. Soccer.
Thanks.

790 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:39:52am

re: #781 MandyManners

Many prisoners had a truly awful childhood. But, that does not excuse them from their choices later in life.

Yes & yes.

791 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:40:14am

re: #779 kawfytawk

I'm not sure...Occupational/physical therapists definitely would...They work with motor/mental issues. It was those two with the help of neurologists and speech therapists that discovered this little tidbit and it really took off.

I am thinking a neuro pyschologist would

For some reason, I'm envisioning a lot of appointments with various shrinks for a while.

792 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:40:23am

re: #788 MandyManners

Mandy...how old is "the kid"?

793 joecitizen  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:41:29am

re: #754 MandyManners

I've been looking for information about diet.

mornin' ms. mandy...check into michael savage..I'd never recommend his radio show, but he's written quite extensively on that topic and seems to have researched it thoroughly..my 2 cents for ya...

794 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:41:34am

re: #772 3 wood
"Can you imagine the disruption Burress is to the other players with that kind of attitude?" Yes, but I'd rather not think about it too much, thankew very much!

795 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:41:50am

Ford may be starting to sell off assets to get cash.

Ford considers selling Volvo to BMW: report

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Ford Motor Co. may sell Swedish carmaker Volvo AB to Germany's BMW AG in a move to raise cash, The Sunday Times reports, citing senior car industry sources.
The newspaper says sources close to Ford and BMW said Saturday that there had been preliminary talks between the two, although this was denied by the companies.

796 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:42:49am

re: #754 MandyManners

I've been looking for information about diet.

Mandy.. I am so afraid to say this..cause our diet is a personal thing.
My parents were very strick about our diet.. You know how much I am anti-sugar, Anti-salt..blah blah...We raised 5 children without sugar, little salt, no pork..
You would get a lesser punishment bringing a bag of pot home than junk food..
That is a joke..but you know what I'm saying...
We are what we eat...
Today is about to start..let me tell you a story..
My wife and our first date... She is so beautiful..and a Jewish girl..I had never met a Jew in my life..I had no idea..But we met at a little bistro in college and I was so nervous..
She ordered a salad...To this day i don't know why...I ordered fresh mushrooms...
She teases me to this day when we go out...How about a couple fresh mushrooms hoopster?
You were so different she always says...

So anywoo.. Jewish people are really uptight about kosher food and our families are really tight..not just because of the food..
But...our kids have always ate healthy..I think it helps..

797 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:43:05am

re: #783 Dark_Falcon

Sounds like me. I have ADHD as well. It can be overcome, but it is something this with you all the time. The overcoming has to be done everyday. It my most ernest hope that your son can overcome ADHD better than I have.

I know it'll be a challenge. I'm looking for behavior modification strategies we can practice at home.

One concern I have is that the school will not go along with things I find and he needs implemented at school. It's a private school so I wonder if they're held to the same standards as public ones when it comes to accomodations.

798 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:43:27am

re: #785 realwest

Hi Mandy - "Victimology is a huge industry." and a growing one at that.
BTW, fwiw, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your son.


thanks!

799 apachegunner  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:43:29am

Hey RW, good to cya howya doin? OTS if the demorats win this election all lizards should fly any stars and strips upside down for a period of 2 years, a distress signal. My lapel flag will always be upside down and the one at my house upside down and I will put a front plate on my car of the flag upside down. Let's make that statement and look for each other huh?

800 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:43:30am

We may soon see the departure of someone we hate from the international scene: Ahmadinejad Reportedly Falls Ill Due to Workload. Exhaustion is normally a cover for something else. Perhaps the Mullahs are giving the Dinner Jacket the heave-ho.

801 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:43:54am

"Egypt news company fined for covering protest."

/sign of the times - prepare

802 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:43:57am

re: #786 opnion

Your health plan should list an 800 number in your Benefits booklet that you must call to get authorizations for Hospitalizations & some times listed procedures.
Even you do not need to contact them for your son , they may be willing to intervene on your behalf. If you do not find the number, the claims administrator can give it to you.

His insurance does not cover this situation.

803 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:44:08am

re: #784 jetprop
There isn't much fall foliage - all the leaves are curled up to keep warm! LOL!

804 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:44:19am

re: #791 MandyManners

For some reason, I'm envisioning a lot of appointments with various shrinks for a while.

if I could make a suggestion....see a good occupational therapist who has worked with preemies/add before. Of course, your first move is testing for ADD....if the results prove positive see the OT if you want to try a drug free therapy.

805 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:44:38am

re: #792 kawfytawk

Mandy...how old is "the kid"?

He's eight. He's the youngest in his class.

806 yochanan  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:45:39am

i had two sons who they told us had ADHD and we believed them for a number of years but we decided to get real testing on both of them. the futher testing showed that neither of them had it. One of them just thought differently for his own age esp in the logic and reading areas the other son did have some REAL problems but they were of a different nature one were medication and other treatment help him. It was more complex than ADD OR ADHD.

GET REAL PROFESSIONAL TESTING AND FIND A DOC WHO DOESN 'T ALWAYS RUN WITH THE HERD.

807 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:46:00am

Daimler to suspend production for one month - report

BERLIN (AFP) -- German carmaker Daimler, hit by falling demand amid the global financial crisis, plans to suspend production for a month beginning in December, a newspaper said in report due to appear Sunday.
The break in production would begin on December 11 and last until January 12, Frankfurter Sonntagszeitung reported, citing a company spokesman.
Daimler, the first luxury car maker to present its quarterly results, unveiled big falls in profits on Thursday and issued a new profit warning owing to the global banking crisis.
"The financial crisis is turning into an economic crisis," Daimler chairman Dieter Zetsche told a telephone news conference. It provoked "in recent weeks a dramatic slump on our major markets," he said.
"The situation is very challenging," Zetsche added, "we are living in extraordinary times."

Told ya that Europe's problems are much worse than the US's.

808 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:46:21am

re: #793 joecitizen

mornin' ms. mandy...check into michael savage..I'd never recommend his radio show, but he's written quite extensively on that topic and seems to have researched it thoroughly..my 2 cents for ya...

One thing that concerns me is getting a balanced load of information. Some sites/people are heavily pro-meds and others are heavily anti-meds.

But, thanks for that information about Michael Savage. I thought he was strictly political.

809 apachegunner  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:46:26am

we are raising our grandson, now 15, who suffers from ADHD and the SC school system has been very accommodating since kindergarten, he is not a sophomore in HS and stopped the Ritalin last year. Keep the hopes up MM re: #797 MandyManners

810 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:46:28am

re: #805 MandyManners

He's eight. He's the youngest in his class.

does he tend to fidget, hop from one foot to the other while talking? like to touch EV-ER-Y thing? rock in chair while reading or watching tv? any of those type things

811 CynicalConservative  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:46:28am

Obama campaign cuts off Florida news station for asking honest interview questions of Biden. Over 5000 comments

Can't take the heat eh?

812 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:47:56am

re: #794 realwest

The Bears are the only NFL team I know of that get 2 straight weeks off from NFL competition this season.

We have a bye week this week, next week we play the Lions.

813 joecitizen  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:48:08am

re: #808 MandyManners

One thing that concerns me is getting a balanced load of information. Some sites/people are heavily pro-meds and others are heavily anti-meds.

But, thanks for that information about Michael Savage. I thought he was strictly political.


actually he was WAY more than that..trained botanist..deep research into foods and behavior etc..michaelsavage.com will help ya out..good luck!

814 mensamann  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:48:33am

re: #710 jetprop

A touch of fall in the air in N Fla translates to being in the full grasp of fall here in upstate NY.

815 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:48:34am

re: #796 HoosierHoops

I'm not against all junk food sparingly but, I don't let him have it very often. For instance, I'll let him have a candy bar on the way to the park.

816 Onslow  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:48:44am
817 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:49:07am

re: #802 MandyManners

His insurance does not cover this situation.

Sorry to hear that. Then you are the Patient Advocate. I know that you will be like a mother lion with a cub. If you personally know a doctor, ask for some advice. and opnions are always important.
Question meds proscribed & everything in the treatment.
There is a lot on the net, but you have to be careful, since anybody can post with bogus credentials.

818 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:49:58am

re: #804 kawfytawk

if I could make a suggestion....see a good occupational therapist who has worked with preemies/add before. Of course, your first move is testing for ADD....if the results prove positive see the OT if you want to try a drug free therapy.

When I think of OT, I think of physically disabled adults who need retraining in the job market. I had no idea that they're useful here.

819 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:51:34am

re: #812 3 wood

The Bears are the only NFL team I know of that get 2 straight weeks off from NFL competition this season.

We have a bye week this week, next week we play the Lions.

LOL! AAt least they get the free wins from the Lions. They need them,

820 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:51:58am

re: #806 yochanan

i had two sons who they told us had ADHD and we believed them for a number of years but we decided to get real testing on both of them. the futher testing showed that neither of them had it. One of them just thought differently for his own age esp in the logic and reading areas the other son did have some REAL problems but they were of a different nature one were medication and other treatment help him. It was more complex than ADD OR ADHD.

GET REAL PROFESSIONAL TESTING AND FIND A DOC WHO DOESN 'T ALWAYS RUN WITH THE HERD.

The pediatric psychologist the teacher and principal both recommended has a kid with ADHD and is on meds.

I don't want a doctor who is a hammer who sees all kids with ADHD as nails.

821 Nevergiveup  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:52:01am

re: #814 mensamann

A touch of fall in the air in N Fla translates to being in the full grasp of fall here in upstate NY.

Were in upstate NY?

822 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:52:27am

re: #799 apachegunner
Hey guns - let's wait until the election is over to make any plans, shall we? I didn't fly Old Glory upside down during the Carter years (though it probably would have been proper to do so) and frankly even if the Dem's win POTUS and a Supermajority in Congress (shudder) I'm not turning Old Glory into a distress signal. It's a mess that AMERICANS (not including, of course, the ACORN registered voters) have gotten ourselves into and I'll be looking for ways to counteract the Democrats actions/inactions.
Ya know the Dems have a lot to lose by winning - for soooo many years now, the Dem mantra has been if it's bad for America it's good for the Dems and, again IF they should win, they'll have to turn that mantra around on a dime!
And I GUARANTY that the World will NOT love us anymore than they do now; quite the opposite when they realize that they'll have to defend themselves from aggression (and pay for that defense spending too) and take care of themselves in the event of Tsunami's and other natural causes. The World has always just sorta assumed America would bail it's ass out if it came to it; we MIGHT want to, but if Obama is elected, we WON'T BE ABLE to.
But I'm not ready to give up on the elections just yet. Not by a long shot.

823 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:52:51am

re: #820 MandyManners

The pediatric psychologist the teacher and principal both recommended has a kid with ADHD and is on meds.

I don't want a doctor who is a hammer who sees all kids with ADHD as nails.


Second opinions.

824 Nevergiveup  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:53:04am

re: #819 Dark_Falcon

LOL! AAt least they get the free wins from the Lions. They need them,

Be careful what you wish for. My Jets thought they had the week off last week against the Raiders?

825 slartybartfast  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:53:30am

Looks like Yahoo! (via Politico) has picked up the "Palin's going rogue!" theme that started at CNN last night...*sigh*.

Don't they get tired of the same old thing?

826 yesandno  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:53:32am

re: #743 realwest

How do you know that they're turning out in droves for Obama? And where is "here"?

Here is Asheville....and I went to the Obama rally last month. Few BLACKS. Some of the hippie generation 2008....and the majority were white upper classes...many from the better neighborhoods that attend the same schools as my child...and many 60+ from all over Western NC...Waynesville, Henersonville, etc...if I heard them speaking correctly. Seems to me his support here is very 1960's liberals. (and the crowd was said to be 28,000 out of a city population of about 75,000)

Ain't scientific, but I have worked a long time with the public, and this is my assessment of what I saw.... As well as who were in line at the early voting line I was in....

If Obama wins, it won't be the Blacks that do it...more likely the liberal well off whites suffering from guilt. These have always been the "feeling" group.

827 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:53:34am

re: #809 apachegunner

we are raising our grandson, now 15, who suffers from ADHD and the SC school system has been very accommodating since kindergarten, he is not a sophomore in HS and stopped the Ritalin last year. Keep the hopes up MM

My goal is to keep him in private schooling because the public system around here SUCKS. There were kids on meds in KINDERGARTEN!

828 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:53:51am

re: #815 MandyManners

I'm not against all junk food sparingly but, I don't let him have it very often. For instance, I'll let him have a candy bar on the way to the park.

Do you know what the KID has that many children don't?
A mother that loves him deeply.. Everything will be just fine..

829 apachegunner  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:54:45am

re: #822 realwest

darn it RW, why do you always have to be soooo sensible? geeeeesh

830 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:54:48am

re: #819 Dark_Falcon

LOL! AAt least they get the free wins from the Lions. They need them,

I honestly think the Lions could go 0 and 16 this year. Probably they will several games by accident, but Millen screwed them up so bad it's a real possibility.

831 Nevergiveup  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:55:17am

re: #827 MandyManners

My goal is to keep him in private schooling because the public system around here SUCKS. There were kids on meds in KINDERGARTEN!

When I was growing up, nobody was on meds and we more or less all came out ok. I wonder how we all managed?

832 realwest  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:56:00am

re: #812 3 wood ROFL! Well good for Da Bears! But I'm afraid it's only a temporary reprieve!

833 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:56:24am

re: #810 kawfytawk

does he tend to fidget, hop from one foot to the other while talking? like to touch EV-ER-Y thing? rock in chair while reading or watching tv? any of those type things

He fidgets like all get-out! The others, no. In fact, he's quite still when reading and watching TV or playing PSP/PS3 or working on his computer although he talks back to them.

His main problem in class is his getting out of his chair and talking too much. Also, the principal said he talks very animatedly at lunch and she saw him break-dancing at lunch once.

834 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:56:27am

re: #818 MandyManners

When I think of OT, I think of physically disabled adults who need retraining in the job market. I had no idea that they're useful here.

oh they are great...and if the truth be told there is quite a bit you can do yourself. here are some things to try...use the ones that work and toss the others.

30 minutes before homework have him spin in tire swing, jump on trampoline, or crawl (army style) on grass outside, make it a race....things like that.

while reading...rock in rocking chair, squeeze one of those jelly coosh balls (the one with those crazy soft spikes) or make your own small bean bags out of lentils and velvet or something really soft.

sandboxes are great...even if he thinks its for little ones....make zen gardens with fingers or build sandcastles...key is touching sand.

these are only a few....you can be creative...the object is...motion and tactile input are key to building the "bridge"

835 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:57:08am

re: #813 joecitizen

actually he was WAY more than that..trained botanist..deep research into foods and behavior etc..michaelsavage.com will help ya out..good luck!

Thanks! I'm learning something new again at LGF.

836 Nevergiveup  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:57:21am

re: #830 3 wood

I honestly think the Lions could go 0 and 16 this year. Probably they will several games by accident, but Millen screwed them up so bad it's a real possibility.

I guess you live in or around Detroit. Being from NJ it is hard to really tell how bad the Lions are, but when Sports Talk radio even in NJ makes fun of them, things can't be all that good out there?

837 laZardo  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:57:34am

Went for a quick snack to keep me up tonight...what'd I miss?

838 BlueCanuck  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:57:57am

re: #831 Nevergiveup

When I was growing up, nobody was on meds and we more or less all came out ok. I wonder how we all managed?

Probably all those times we fell off our bikes without helmets.

/

839 akak  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:57:59am

re: #822 realwest

Hey guns - let's wait until the election is over to make any plans, shall we? I didn't fly Old Glory upside down during the Carter years (though it probably would have been proper to do so) and frankly even if the Dem's win POTUS and a Supermajority in Congress (shudder) I'm not turning Old Glory into a distress signal. It's a mess that AMERICANS (not including, of course, the ACORN registered voters) have gotten ourselves into and I'll be looking for ways to counteract the Democrats actions/inactions.
Ya know the Dems have a lot to lose by winning - for soooo many years now, the Dem mantra has been if it's bad for America it's good for the Dems and, again IF they should win, they'll have to turn that mantra around on a dime!
And I GUARANTY that the World will NOT love us anymore than they do now; quite the opposite when they realize that they'll have to defend themselves from aggression (and pay for that defense spending too) and take care of themselves in the event of Tsunami's and other natural causes. The World has always just sorta assumed America would bail it's ass out if it came to it; we MIGHT want to, but if Obama is elected, we WON'T BE ABLE to.
But I'm not ready to give up on the elections just yet. Not by a long shot.

25% budget cut to military by Obama sure isn't gonna help

840 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:58:41am

re: #833 MandyManners

He fidgets like all get-out! The others, no. In fact, he's quite still when reading and watching TV or playing PSP/PS3 or working on his computer although he talks back to them.

His main problem in class is his getting out of his chair and talking too much. Also, the principal said he talks very animatedly at lunch and she saw him break-dancing at lunch once.

smart boy....he knows what his body needs.

841 SurferDoc  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:58:48am

MandyManners: If you already have a diagnosis from one Pediatric Psychologist, then the next step is a second opinion from another qualified psychologist. Who you choose to do the evaluation is most important and depending on where you live you may have to travel to find someone good.

842 Nevergiveup  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:59:18am

re: #838 BlueCanuck

Probably all those times we fell off our bikes without helmets.

/

If the truth be told, when i found myself going over the handle bars I was alot more concerned about my knees and elbows. Hell, my head seemed pretty hard to me?

843 MandyManners  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:59:30am

re: #813 joecitizen

actually he was WAY more than that..trained botanist..deep research into foods and behavior etc..michaelsavage.com will help ya out..good luck!

Here's an example of what puts me off. I googled his name with ADHD tagged on and got this: The Ritalin Racketeers and Their Chemical Lobotomies – Part I

844 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 7:59:37am

re: #837 laZardo

Went for a quick snack to keep me up tonight...what'd I miss?

The Colts won the SuperBowl...great game...The Giants tanked in the 4th quarter
..other than that..nuth'n

845 Nevergiveup  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 8:00:04am

re: #839 akak

25% budget cut to military by Obama sure isn't gonna help

Sure ain't gonna help me!

846 opnion  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 8:00:11am

re: #841 SurferDoc

MandyManners: If you already have a diagnosis from one Pediatric Psychologist, then the next step is a second opinion from another qualified psychologist. Who you choose to do the evaluation is most important and depending on where you live you may have to travel to find someone good.


That is the correct advice.

847 3 wood  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 8:00:11am

re: #836 Nevergiveup

I guess you live in or around Detroit. Being from NJ it is hard to really tell how bad the Lions are, but when Sports Talk radio even in NJ makes fun of them, things can't be all that good out there?

I live dead bang int he middle of Illinois and am a Bears fan. But I've seen the Lions play several times this year and Millen ruined them. They have almost nothing to build on.

848 bbuddha  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 8:00:12am

Mandy Manners.
I'm being a bit presumptuous here......I would suggest that you stress that this isn't a disability, it can be a blessing. I've never been diagnosed but I'm probably ADHD. I'm similar in many ways to my daughter. This has been a huge help to me in all my jobs. I can do three or four different things at once and am actually happiest when I'm going in all different directions. I was able to go to college because I could carry a full academic load and work 2 to 3 jobs at the same time. The downside is impulse control but that is a matter of learning some things the hard way. I suspect that it is more of a problem because our culture has become anti acheivment and children that ask questions and are ready to move on to the next thing before the others are considered problems. IMHO it is a sad commentary on our country

849 kawfytawk  Sun, Oct 26, 2008 8:00:19am

re: #833 MandyManners

the worse part about it....is he needs the activity...probably gets up in class and has the only "real" thing he needs taken away which is recess....lol