Look at his face when West says "going back to spreading the wealth around."

Just priceless.

Barbara West my new hero!

Hey, a journalist does his/her job!

Too bad her career may be over for doing just that.

Hard questions make Joe Biden angry! You don't want to see Joe Biden angry!

Indignant that he should have to answer such questions.

I saw the video she asked some tough questions but he seems incredulous that she is even asking them. He should have been better prepped on how to answer them

Again, thanks Geepers. You were first on this (that I saw)!

I love how she doesn't scream or rant. She just calmly lobbed the grenades one by one. It's about time someone started asking the tough questions.

My favorite moment...Joe...
"Are you serious?"

And...the look on his face at the sign off. I call that, "the stink eye".

Waaaaah!

They asked questins that weren't part of the narrative!

I'm taking my hairplugs and going home!

I had not watched this yet. This woman is my new hero for calling it correctly- he's a marxist! Thank you, dear Lady!

BTW, this is not a Joe thing. She would have pissed "the one" off pretty bad too.

Leaky Joe is one condescending used car salesman.

No offense to all the hardworking car salesmen out there.

Nearly 900,000 views on Youtube.

re: #12 Sharmuta

I love the way she keeps her cool. Doesn't even flinch when he says "Are you serious?"

I especially love how West quotes Karl Marx. This lady has guts.

re: #11 JBJ

Whaaaaa?

Barbara West and WFTV are so screwed when the unFairness Doctrine is reinstituted.

I can picture a group of Obamatons with torches and pitchforks gathering outside the station to get to her.

"...there are many other stations in the Orlando television market that would gladly conduct a(n) respectful and factual interview scripted and approved by the Obama/Biden campaign, with her us.”

Goddddamnit!
Why didn't she ask Biden's opinion of Sarah Palin's high priced wardrobe?

/Stop making sense...........

UPDATE:
Channel 9 is being attacked by Obama followers! They need your support!

We just got off the phone with Channel 9 in Florida — the station that dared to ask substantive questions in an interview Joe Biden did with reporter Barbara West. It seems the station is being flooded with calls from Obama followers, coordinated on some level, angry Biden was questioned about Obama’s socialist agenda and his similarities to Karl Marx.

Channel 9 needs our support!

Throughout this election, Obama’s opponents are scrutinized and eviscerated by the media, while Obama’s been asked only softball questions. “Would you like another pillow?” comes to mind. The Obama campaign has informed Channel 9 it will not receive anymore interviews with Democrats for “at least the duration of this election”. That’s what happens when you dare to ask the ObaMessiah’s campaign anything other than, “Would you like more ice cream?”.

Barbara West and Channel 9 need your support. Please call them and thank them for FINALLY asking the Obama/Biden campaign about its real agenda: socialism in America that none of us want. Tell them how proud you are that there are actually journalists left who ask real questions of the Democrats’ selected candidates. Journalism is not dead yet — as long as Barbara West is on the air!

Phone numbers and e-mail addresses available at link.
(Phew! I almost included them here and would've gotten this message deleted!)

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can picture a group of Obamatons with torches and pitchforks gathering outside the station to get to her.

She'll be plumbered first,

If President Bush refused to take reporters' questions that he considered ignorant, David Gregory and Helen Thomas would be banned from the White House press room.

“This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election.”

How DARE Barbara West ask such questions of Biden! He's a Democrat VP candidate! Media types are supposed to ask questions like "boxers or briefs" and "pearls or diamonds" of Dem candidates, otherwise they are unprofessional!

The Obama campaign is just doing exactly what they should to show any arrogant media type WHO IS BOSS!

DUH!
/

That was a very professional person working that interview. Joe Hair-plugs was not pleased. I find it hard to believe that a candidate who says stuff like spreading the wealth can get elected in the United States. Hell, that would probably sink you up here in Canucksville; most of our lefty politicians believe in it, but even they don't say it out loud.
This just can't be happening, if zerobama gets elected our Canadian prime minister will be more conservative than your president. That's just plain messed up! Although, could be worse, I could be oh for two.

I'm surprised Biden didn't turn green, rip off his shirt and go rampaging through the studio.

re: #11 JBJ

This video is courtesy of "DJM", loyal lizard recently blocked by LGF.

That is really not cool. You're DJM, using a second account to post that comment.

And DJM was banned because he insisted on posting links to the bogus birth certificate story, after I warned at least three times that I was going to ban people who did that.

I'll find another source for the video.

Well the guest list at the reeducation camps has just been upgraded with Barabara West. Maybe I won't be so miserable, after all.

Anybody have the links to the Obama's retaliation story regarding this?

I hear the Klingons are really pissed too for attacking one of their own.

I'd like to see this woman grill Obama on why he always gives the same excuse:

...You mentioned Rashid Khalidi, who's a professor at Columbia. I do know him, because I taught at the University of Chicago. And he is Palestinian. And I do know him, and I have had conversations. He is not one of my advisers; he's not one of my foreign policy people. His kids went to the Lab school where my kids go as well. He is a respected scholar, although he vehemently disagrees with a lot of Israel's policy."

Obama went on: "To pluck out one person who I know and who I've had a conversation with who has very different views than 900 of my friends and then to suggest that somehow that shows that maybe I'm not sufficiently pro-Israel, I think, is a very problematic stand to take," he said. "So we gotta be careful about guilt by association." ...

Sound familiar?

[Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

"Senator Biden’s wife is not running for elected office, and there are many other stations in the Orlando television market that would gladly conduct a respectful and factual interview with her.”

Can anyone translate that one for me? I don't get the connection.

re: #29 Charles

It is on the WFTV website, Charles.

re: #29 Charles

Charles- here's one

OT

Fucking Reuters

Peace process may be derailed by Israeli election

An early Israeli election may kill off more than George W. Bush's hopes of a peace deal with Palestinians this year. It could bring a right-wing government hostile to peacemaking by his successor in the White House.

Foreign minister and new ruling party leader Tzipi Livni's failure to form a new government, starting the countdown to a likely election in February, will have the immediate effect of further sidelining faltering peace talks that the U.S. president hoped would bolster a legacy burdened by the war in Iraq.

But diplomats and analysts said the election could have implications far beyond Bush's term, citing opinion polls showing a big lead for the right-wing opposition Likud party of former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who had criticised many of the peace proposals that Livni and outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert have made with U.S. encouragement.

"We're deeply worried," said one senior Western diplomat in Jerusalem, speaking anonymously because he did not want to be seen interfering in Israeli politics. "This may spell the end of the diplomatic process, and not just in the near term."

Ah yes, the Israeli election could doom the peace process, because the Palestinian shootings, kidnappings, rockets and pledges of genocide have led to so much progress on that.

re: #32 sbvft contributor

I hear the Klingons are really pissed too for attacking one of their own.

LOL!

Michelle MyBelle's a Klingon too.

(First saw that picture at People's Cube)

re: #34 Lynn B.

Can anyone translate that one for me? I don't get the connection.

Lynn, the same station was to do an interview with Biden's wife as well.

Barbara West, you're the best! keep hitting 'em hard.

re: #34 Lynn B.

Can anyone translate that one for me? I don't get the connection.

See my earlier post (#21) above. That's how I interpreted it.

If the American news media had even one Barbara West for every four or five Katie Courics, Obama would be 30 points down in the polls and would have conceded the election by now.

re: #31 Sol Roth

Anybody have the links to the Obama's retaliation story regarding this?

Here, I think: [Link: blogs.orlandosentinel.com...]

Directly from the WFTV Website!

Kudos to Ms. West for not letting the Chia Pet off the hook!

Oh and YEAH PATS!

re: #23 gmsc

Thanks! I just emailed the anchor and told her thank you.

re: #34 Lynn B.

Biden's wife was scheduled to have an interview w/ someone at that station. The Biden camp canceled it.

Now this is the stuff...

“There’s nothing wrong with tough questions, but reporters have the very important job of sharing the truth with the public — not misleading the American people with false information. Senator Biden handled the interview well; however, the anchor was completely unprofessional. Senator Biden’s wife is not running for elected office, and there are many other stations in the Orlando television market that would gladly conduct a respectful and factual interview with her.”

This is the thing that really gets me, the Obama campaign response. Nothing wrong with tough questions? Then how come you're telling this station they're not allowed to talk to y'all any more because they asked tough questions?

And the part about reporters having the important job of sharing the truth, not misleading with false information is just RICH isn't it, coming from the Obama camp, considering how almost the entire MSM is in the tank for them.

Also, what a double standard about Biden's wife, after the MSMs treatment of Cindy McCain and Todd Palin.

If you actually listen to Biden's answers they make no sense whatsoever.

The guy's a freaking embarrassment.

re: #41 alien_mind

Barbara West, you're the best! keep hitting 'em hard.

She's done. She asked Biden a real question.

She could ask McCain "Do you still beat your wife?" and then slap Palin and the Dhimmis would still not accept her apologies/tribute.

Need another reason not to vote for Obama?

Jesse Jackson Jr. hopes to replace Obama in Senate

[Link: thehill.com...]

re: #39 Fat Jolly Penguin

That is golden! People's Cube rules. I have one of their photoshops hanging in my cube at work "ACLU & Al-Zawahiri AGree: Bag Searches ARe Wrong": [Link: thepeoplescube.com...]

"Joe the Dumber"

LOL!

re: #51 Geepers

If you actually listen to Biden's answers they make no sense whatsoever.

The guy's a freaking embarrassment.

Oh, he flat-out lied, on just about every point. If you look around at what Democrats are saying, they're praising him for the 'great job' he did. If lying his ass off is a 'great job', then I concur, and heartily.

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Fucking Reuters

Peace process may be derailed by Israeli election

Ah yes, the Israeli election could doom the peace process, because the Palestinian shootings, kidnappings, rockets and pledges of genocide have led to so much progress on that.

My guess is that the US elections, should they go the wrong way, will pretty much guarantee a strong Likud victory in Israel. At least with the current administration, they know they have a backstop past a certain point. If Obama gets into the White House, they're going to need to rely on their own leaders to stem the tide.

“There’s nothing wrong with tough questions, but reporters have the very important job of sharing the truth with the public — not misleading the American people with false information.

Or, as in the case of Obama's campaign, no information.
It takes an unlimited amount of gall for his campaign to make this statement.

re: #53 Opinionated

OY!

Makes me want to move to Chicago right away!

re: #51 Geepers

If you actually listen to Biden's answers they make no sense whatsoever.

The guy's a freaking embarrassment.

listen to his answers? don't be silly. only Sarah Palins answers are listened to and scrutinized with a fine tooth comb.

Biden is claiming that the campaign didn't pay Acorn.

"The Ohio primary was March 4. According to FEC records, the Obama campaign paid Citizens Services Inc. $832,598.29, from Feb. 25 to May 17.

A Trib analysis of campaign finance reports showed Obama paid CSI for services that stood out as unusual. For example, CSI received payments of $63,000 and $75,000 for advance work. Excluding the large payments to CSI, the average amount the Obama campaign spent with other organizations was $558.82 per check on more than 1,200 entries classified as advance work.

Citizens Services Inc. is headquartered at the same address as ACORN's national headquarters in New Orleans. Citizens Services was established in December 2004 to "assist persons and organizations who advance the interests of low- and moderate-income people," according to paperwork filed in Louisiana. In a 2006 ACORN publication, Citizen Services Inc. is described as "ACORN's campaign services entity."

[Link: www.rightmichigan.com...]

re: #55 Racer X

"Joe the Dumber"

LOL!

I love that moniker. That one has to stick.

re: #51 Geepers

If you actually listen to Biden's answers they make no sense whatsoever.

The guy's a freaking embarrassment.

There you are! Thanks again for picking up on this. This is a big deal!

Tell me that Obama could have danced around this one. He couldn't have either! He (if someone wants to nail him) is totally nailable!

Is nailable a word. Sounds like a good word to me.

I'm pleasantly stunned that a TV reporter actually put Ramblin' Joe on the hot seat. Barbara West deserves a raise.

re: #61 jaunte

He's a flat out liar.

re: #60 alien_mind

listen to his answers? don't be silly. only Sarah Palins answers are listened to and scrutinized with a fine tooth comb.

...and heavily edited to leave out the parts where she sounds like she knows what she's talking about.

re: #9 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Haha yeah I laughed pretty hard when he said that. He probably had himself a hissy fit when he got off stage, complaining to his aids about the nerve of the host.

re: #62 capitalist piglet

I liked "Joe the Bummer".

That was great.

re: #59 Quad Mocha Matti

Makes me want to move to Chicago Alaska right away!

Obama/Biden AKA Dumbo/Dumber

re: #38 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Fucking Reuters

Peace process may be derailed by Israeli election

Ah yes, the Israeli election could doom the peace process, because the Palestinian shootings, kidnappings, rockets and pledges of genocide have led to so much progress on that.

I can't understand how the Israeli media (never mind AP and Reuters) became so batshit fucking moonbat.

YNet has gone over the edge, demonizing "settlers" and Haredi Jews. What's even worse are the talkbacks to these articles, some of them are calling for actual genocide against religious Israeli Jews.

Embarrassing. I can't believe we're going to put a couple of crybabies like these two in The White House.

Putin is lickin' his chops.

“This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election. And when your FCC broadcast license comes up for renewal, we will certainly take this incident into consideration.”

Original, unedited version.

re: #65 Sharmuta

They claim that CSI and ACORN are separate organizations.
Separate, but with the same personnel, the same goals, and the same moeny flowing back and forth.

"CSI is a "separate organization entirely" from ACORN, he said.

"ACORN is a client of ours," Robinson said. "ACORN has a lot of different partner organizations. We are a partner, but we are separate."

Robinson is listed on several Web sites as national deputy political director for campaigns and elections at ACORN. He is also listed as political director at the nonprofit Communities Voting Together and as a consultant at Project Vote. He did not return phone calls or an e-mail request for a follow-up interview.

Money flows back and forth between ACORN, Citizens Services Inc., Project Vote and Communities Voting Together. ACORN posts job ads for Citizens Services and Project Vote. Communities Voting Together contributed $60,000 to Citizens Services Inc., for example, in November 2005, according to a posting on CampaignMoney.com. Project Vote has hired ACORN and CSI as its highest paid contractors, paying ACORN $4,649,037 in 2006 and CSI $779,016 in 2006, according to Terry of the Consumers Rights League. "

[Link: www.rightmichigan.com...]

re: #53 Opinionated

Need another reason not to vote for Obama?

Jesse Jackson Jr. hopes to replace Obama in Senate

[Link: thehill.com...]

Cindy McCain & Jesse Jackson have something in common.
She inherited a Budweiser distributorship & He extorted one for his son Yousef.

re: #71 solomonpanting

Obama/Biden AKA Dumbo/Dumber

I like this version better.

So am I to conclude that, instead of all television stations being run by liars and turncoats, that all television stations except WFTV are being run by liars and turncoats? That would definitely agree with 100% of the data I've collected.

re: #73 buzzsawmonkey

"is"

Snakespeech.

re: #74 seagreenroom

Embarrassing. I can't believe we're going to put a couple of crybabies like these two in The White House.

Putin is lickin' his chops.

.....and Amadinajad. And Chavez. And Assad. And Hamas. And Hezbollah. ANd AQ. And North Korea. And China. We will be in full retreat worldwide. Especially with that 25% cut in defense spending Barney Frank is proposing.

re: #51 Geepers

If you actually listen to Biden's answers they make no sense whatsoever.

The guy's a freaking embarrassment.

/that's Vice President freaking embarrassment to you

The standard form letter sent to uncooperative news outlets in the new Obama administration.

This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunies for your station to interview with this campaign administration are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until election, inauguration day, 2013.

re: #73 buzzsawmonkey

No, he said they "didn't pay one penny for ACORN to register one vote."

They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to perpetrate massive vote fraud--so technically, Biden is telling the truth.

That's how he manages to speak with such righteous conviction and indignation.

I noticed how specific his answer was too. Technically he would be telling the truth if they gave ACORN billions of dollars, but never specified it was for registering voters.

re: #74 seagreenroom

Embarrassing. I can't believe we're going to put a couple of crybabies like these two in The White House.

We aren't.

re: #19 OldLineTexan

Barbara West and WFTV are so screwed when the unFairness Doctrine is reinstituted.

What do mean? The wheels are now turning to screw them now.

re: #72 Alouette

I can't understand how the Israeli media (never mind AP and Reuters) became so batshit fucking moonbat.

YNet has gone over the edge, demonizing "settlers" and Haredi Jews. What's even worse are the talkbacks to these articles, some of them are calling for actual genocide against religious Israeli Jews.

European and American neo-Nazis post crap like that there quite often, from what I've seen.

re: #78 gmsc

I like this version better.

That's good. But it'll be Wheel of Misfortune.

If Liberals want to apply the "fairness doctrine" to AM radio, they damn well better be putting reporters like this woman in place on every over-the-airwaves TV channel as well. One right leaning reporter like this one for each and every Liberal propagandist currently in place.

Yet that's not part of the fairness doctrine plan. Why is that?

Anchorwoman In Biden Interview Married To GOP Consultant

Heh.

Soooooo...the Syria thing this morning - am I the only one watching that?

re: #84 David IV of Georgia

I noticed how specific his answer was too. Technically he would be telling the truth if they gave ACORN billions of dollars, but never specified it was for registering voters.

Very Clintonian, if you ask me...

re: #74 seagreenroom

Embarrassing. I can't believe we're going to put a couple of crybabies like these two in The White House.

Putin is lickin' his chops.

Hell.

For all that we know, Putin may be running those foreign campaign contributions to "the One" out of a Kremlin boiler-room.

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Anchorwoman In Biden Interview Married To GOP Consultant

Heh.

Shoe, other foot, all that.

"Nobody asks questions like that about the anointed one!" Consider your broadcasting license revoked and your career over Ms. West!"
/
Oh, and I have to say, "Go Phillies!" (No sarcasm there)

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Anchorwoman In Biden Interview Married To GOP Consultant

Heh.

How long before the Libs start screaming media bias?

re: #91 Killgore Trout

The media is not allowed to be married to Republicans, only Democrats.

re: #67 jordash1212

Haha yeah I laughed pretty hard when he said that. He probably had himself a hissy fit when he got off stage, complaining to his aids about the nerve of the host.

I can probably safely say that he didn't call her a "host".

Oops, The Archivist - you never post phone numbers or e-mail addresses in messages here!

For those wondering what is probably missing by now, see my post at #23.

re: #96 guy_philly

"Nobody asks questions like that about the anointed one!" Consider your broadcasting license revoked and your career over Ms. West!"
/
Oh, and I have to say, "Go Phillies!" (No sarcasm there)

Yeah baby - GO PHILS!

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Anchorwoman In Biden Interview Married To GOP Consultant

Heh.

Isn't being married to a "GOP consultant" a criminal offense in the MSM? If not, it should be.

/kos

"No one expects the "Obama directed Inquisition"!

/and now.......THE COMFY CHAIR!

Hmmm. Biden doesn't seem any more angry in this interview than he usually acts. If Biden had said "Heck yes he's a Marxist! What's wrong with that?" then we'd be talking about damage. The campaign made a mistake to call attention to it by punishing this station, because otherwise this is a fart in a cyclone.

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Anchorwoman In Biden Interview Married To GOP Consultant

Heh.

*rolls eyes*
How dare she be married to a conservative!

re: #100 gmsc

And I'm supposed to know better, too! Mea culpa, and apologies.
[does it make any difference if it is a "public" number, such as for an organization? Probably not. I usually learn by the second mistake.]

re: #98 jaunte

The media is not allowed to be married to Republicans, only Democrats.

They don't even let them date Republicans in journalism school.

But it is professional to suggest Trig is not Sarah Palin's baby?

Obama campaign is run by manipulative deceptive Allinskyite whores.

OT:

The Ayers-Barack-Conspiracy Radio network news blip just reported the #1 movie is....High School Musical 3. Insanity (aka "W") has be usurped by idiocy (HSM III).

re: #106 The Archivist

And I'm supposed to know better, too! Mea culpa, and apologies.
[does it make any difference if it is a "public" number, such as for an organization? Probably not. I usually learn by the second mistake.]

Nope - a phone number is a phone number. As I understand it, it's to keep the LGF hamsters out of legal trouble. Linking to pages that give phone numbers isn't a problem, though.

What's appalling is the 0bama camp reaction- they're cutting off this news station. This should give others in the media cause to think twice about what it is they're potentially doing to themselves in the future should we be facing an 0bama administration. I know they won't think twice, but they should.

Imagine for a moment an 0bama press conference at the White House and some reporter asks the "wrong" question- perhaps not even aware their question is problematic. Will this reporters credentials be stripped? The media outlet barred from future interviews and press briefings? They really ought to think long and hard about the monster they've helped create- it just might bite them in the ass.

re: #92 capitalist piglet

Soooooo...the Syria thing this morning - am I the only one watching that?

I was JUST about to post on it...

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1225036 811746&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

United States military helicopters bombed targets in a Syrian border town near Iraq on Sunday after Global Jihad operatives allegedly crossed the border into Syria, killing at least eight people.

The attack, which was not confirmed by the US military, was the first ever reported American strike in Syria.

Israeli defense officials said the incident was not connected to Israel and that the American troops had been chasing Global Jihad suspects in Iraq. The helicopters then crossed into Syria in pursuit of the terrorists.

According to Syria's state-run television, US military helicopters attacked an area near the Syrian border town of Abu Kamal and that there were casualties. It gave no other details on Sunday's attack.

I'm curious, JPost says this is the first ever strike, DEBKA makes it sound pretty routine... They say there were strikes in 2004 and 2005 as well. Which is it?

re: #64 mrbassman

I'm pleasantly stunned that a TV reporter actually put Ramblin' Joe on the hot seat. Barbara West deserves a raise.

The only way it could have been better is if it had been Obama on the hot seat.

So Biden claims that the 'middle class" (undefined)
will receive a tax break on top of a tax break.
Tell me more, Joe.

re: #100 gmsc

Oops, The Archivist - you never post phone numbers or e-mail addresses in messages here!

For those wondering what is probably missing by now, see my post at #23.

Flooding the station with calls from "angry viewers", eh? Any wagers a "temporary suspension" is in the offing? TV and radio station managers tend to be sniveling weasels and wholly averse to "controversy".

I'm all for keeping LGF out of legal trouble.
Let's try that quote snip again, this time w/o phone numbers.
[from [Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]
We just got off the phone with Channel 9 in Florida — the station that dared to ask substantive questions in an interview Joe Biden did with reporter Barbara West. It seems the station is being flooded with calls from Obama followers, coordinated on some level, angry Biden was questioned about Obama’s socialist agenda and his similarities to Karl Marx.

Channel 9 needs our support!

Throughout this election, Obama’s opponents are scrutinized and eviscerated by the media, while Obama’s been asked only softball questions. “Would you like another pillow?” comes to mind. The Obama campaign has informed Channel 9 it will not receive anymore interviews with Democrats for “at least the duration of this election”. That’s what happens when you dare to ask the ObaMessiah’s campaign anything other than, “Would you like more ice cream?”.

Barbara West and Channel 9 need your support. Please call them and thank them for FINALLY asking the Obama/Biden campaign about its real agenda: socialism in America that none of us want. Tell them how proud you are that there are actually journalists left who ask real questions of the Democrats’ selected candidates. Journalism is not dead yet — as long as Barbara West is on the air!

I'll never understand why people think the best response to being banned is to send me insulting, nasty emails. If posting at LGF is important to you, I'd think you'd want to apologize and try again.

Middle class tax break AFTER they abolish the Bush tax cuts. What a double talking liar, can't take the heat.

re: #109 Quad Mocha Matti

OT:

The Ayers-Barack-Conspiracy Radio network news blip just reported the #1 movie is....High School Musical 3. Insanity (aka "W") has be usurped by idiocy (HSM III).

Another interesting barometer of the electorate: Oliver Stone’s “W.” BOMBED at the box office

Well, Stone’s W. bombed. It’s down 58% from last week’s take, and won’t recoup the $30 million production costs (not to mention its $25 million advertising and marketing). It’s domestic take is now expected to be just $23 million, which will make it one of Stone’s least successful productions.

Read the whole thing

re: #51 Geepers

If you actually listen to Biden's answers they make no sense whatsoever.

The guy's a freaking embarrassment.

It was mentioned on here that someone thought that Biden was showing signs of early Alzheimers. In addition it is known that he has had procedures for brain aneurysms, and someone asked if that could affect cognition. The answer, is of course. A brain aneurysm could affect cognition, and the procedure to correct one could create some damage that could also. Whether it did or not with Biden, I can't say. However, my mother just died from Alzheimer's and in retrospect one of the first signs, which we all missed because she talked a lot and we tended to tune her out, was confabulation, where she continued to talk, and had words, but they made no sense at all. Eventually she had words but they became word salad, and not even in any particular order. At first we thought it was us, but it eventually became apparent. So anyway, Biden could be ill. Hard to say. Might explain his behavior.

re: #114 jaunte

So Biden claims that the 'middle class" (undefined)
will receive a tax break on top of a tax break.
Tell me more, Joe.

What I always love is how tax cuts for "the rich" cost Washington money- never any mention how the tax burden costs Americans right out of their paychecks.

When journalists do their jobs:

Someone arranged a $300,000 discount off market value for Ehud Olmert on his home in 2004 when he was a cabinet minister. Two years later an investigative journalist said this was a scam. Olmert brushed it off, but two years after his having risen to PM, it turned out to be the first of many scandals and he had to resign.

Rezko, the crook, arranged a $300,000 discount off market value for Barack Obama on his home in 2005. It's the same scam. With a few clicks on the computer, the recipient got a windfall of undeclared income and/or an undeclared political contribution.

In Olmert's case, his windfall was found to be related to a bribe. In Obama's case, not yet. But then Olmert resides in Israel. An investigative journalist dug into his case. In the US, all journalists are trained to look the other way in anything touching on Obama.

......

I bring out the two parallel cases of Olmert and Obama for a couple of reasons. No one would have known about Olmert’s housing deal had not a journalist, a simple Internet journalist, dug it out. That took two years. It took another two years before the matter began to impact on Olmert.

The situation with Obama seems to be similar but much deeper and more complex. No journalist anywhere or news media has been willing to invest the time and effort needed to dig to the bottom of it. Characters such as Auchi are so much larger than life that it may be possible to arrive at the truth only through the medium of fiction, but if you have enough facts, you can connect the dots. If Obama had been a Republican and the Iraq War that of a Democrat as in Vietnam days, the movie complete with Obama working for Baathist interests would be appearing two weeks before the election.

[Link: www.root-1.co.il...]

Wow. A temper tantrum from the Obama campaign.

If you don't want to be labeled a Marxist, don't talk like one.

re: #98 jaunte

The media is not allowed to be married to Republicans, only Democrats.

Kinda like Proposition 8 in California.

Off topic:

Example how media bias is distorting people's sense of reality at the highest level. I heard Bill Piatt, CIO of the World Bank's International Finance Corporation (IFC), say the following on October 15th at the OutsourceWorld conference in New York:

I have to ask this question: How many of you saw the Fox News story on the World Bank? It's wrong, OK. Unfair and unbalanced. Fairly unbalanced. [laughs from the audience...] Yes, we did have a security incident, but the way it was characterized in that article... There were elements of things that were put together in a way that don't make sense, that don't really have anything to do with it.

Piatt was talking about this story:

World Bank Under Cyber Siege in 'Unprecedented Crisis'
Friday, October 10, 2008
By Richard Behar
The World Bank Group's computer network — one of the largest repositories of sensitive data about the economies of every nation — has been raided repeatedly by outsiders for more than a year, FOX News has learned.

It is still not known how much information was stolen. But sources inside the bank confirm that servers in the institution's highly-restricted treasury unit were deeply penetrated with spy software last April. Invaders also had full access to the rest of the bank's network for nearly a month in June and July.
...
UPDATE: After FOX News published its story, a World Bank spokesman issued the following statement:

"The Fox News story is wrong and is riddled with falsehoods and errors. The story cites misinformation from unattributed sources and leaked emails that are taken out of context.

"Like other public and private institutions, the World Bank has repeatedly experienced hacking attacks on its computer systems and is constantly updating its security to defeat these. But at no point has a hacking attack accessed sensitive information in the World Bank's Treasury, procurement, anti-corruption or human resources departments."

FOX News stands by its story.

Now do this Google search.

re: #87 Spiny Norman

European and American neo-Nazis post crap like that there quite often, from what I've seen.

These people seem to be secular Israeli Jews, or at least they are Euro neo-Nazi trolls who have been maintaining Israeli avatars for a long time.

Test---the next blog post is screwed up, displays funny and impossible to see comments.

re: #121 Sharmuta

What I always love is how tax cuts for "the rich" cost Washington money- never any mention how the tax burden costs Americans right out of their paychecks.

Ranks right up there with "increase taxes on Big xxxx".
I'm pretty sure that taxes are figured into the cost of production and profit margins are based on that.

So, who gets to pay the increased tax? Provided of course the corporation can stay in business with higher prices.

re: #89 The Archivist

Called - they answer fast! E-mailed. If the election goes south, whatever it takes, we need to fight through whatever means to preserve the first and second amendments for the next 2 years.

Really- From where I sit conservatism is a sleeping giant. Those we have somehow been compelled to elect have compromised and hesitated, but with this election, win or lose - I think there will be a revived focus - as to what it really takes to stop the continuous attempts of the greedy, the lazy, and the elite to surreptitiously enslave the rest of us.

re: #119 gmsc

Read the whole thing

Thanks. I was asking about that movie in the last thread.

What we are seeing in the treatment of this news organization is the face of oppressive FASCISM. It is how Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Min, Kim Jung Il (pick a few more evil bastards) act when in power.

Power to the Correct People!
(They can handle tough questions.)

re: #121 Sharmuta

What I always love is how tax cuts for "the rich" cost Washington money- never any mention how the tax burden costs Americans right out of their paychecks.

Especially in the face of data that tells the opposite story; when top marginal rates are lowered, more tax revenues are generated.

re: #111 Sharmuta

First they came for the conservative journalists ... and we cheered.

re: #119 gmsc

Read the whole thing

Good. Oliver Stone is a piece of shit to the highest degree.

re: #116 The Archivist

I'm all for keeping LGF out of legal trouble.
Let's try that quote snip again, this time w/o phone numbers.
[from [Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

Oops, now it's going to be deleted for not properly closing the brackets . . .

. . . Just Kidding.
;)

Do you think that tough questioning of Biden is racism, once removed?

re: #135 TheMatrix31

Rottentomatoes.com has it at 10.5 million so far. heh.

quick, someone check the law enforcement computer network in Florida.
i'm sure it was lit up yesterday with "Barbara West" searches.

re: #129 Van Helsing

Ranks right up there with "increase taxes on Big xxxx".
I'm pretty sure that taxes are figured into the cost of production and profit margins are based on that.

So, who gets to pay the increased tax? Provided of course the corporation can stay in business with higher prices.

We pay the increase.

I join in the cathartic sigh of relief in watching this video where Biden is eviscerated. What is that smell? The smell of toast I believe. I love the question "Are you serious?" - "Yes I am serious." Bien has hubris like most dishonest politicians. He is more concerned with the audacity of the question that the substantive quality.

By the way, a friend sent this to me and it is amusing I think and true:

"Yesterday on my way to lunch at Doe's, I passed one of the homeless guys in that area, with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money."

Once in the Doe's my waiter had on a "Obama 08" tee shirt.

When the bill came, I decided not to tip the waiter and explained to him while he had given me exceptional service, that his tee shirt made me feel he obviously believes in Senator Obama's plan to redistribute the wealth. I told him I was going to redistribute his tip to someone that I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. He stood there in disbelief and angrily stormed away.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $3 and told him to thank the waiter inside, as I had decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy looked at me in disbelief but seemed grateful.

As I got in my truck, I realized this rather unscientific redistribution experiment had left the homeless guy quite happy for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn.

Well, I guess this redistribution of wealth is going to take a while to catch on, with those doing the work."

re: #136 gmsc

precisely why they say, "Preview is my firend" (sic)

The best snub was McCain tossing that old biddy Maureen Dowd off of his plane. Left her stranded, lmao.

re: #114 jaunte

So Biden claims that the 'middle class" (undefined) will receive a tax break on top of a tax break.
Tell me more, Joe.

No matter what they claim their "plan" is, there will be no "middle class tax cut". Bill Clinton promised that one, too, remember? He "never worked so hard on anything before", remember? No, once the Obamessiah gets in, the "crisis" will be so great that the country simply "cannot afford it", and what will happen is that virtually everyone who makes enough to pay Federal income taxes will get hit with a tax increase.

One guaranteed way to make a recession worse is to increase taxes. But Barry's tax policy isn't about what works or doesn't, it's about "fairness".

re: #137 opnion

Do you think that tough questioning of Biden is racism, once removed?

Cmon, those weren't just tough questions, they were unfair questions that certainly were not in the Democrat talking points. Since they were questions regarding The Messiah, and were related to his "socialist" views, and "socialist' is code for black, then of course it's racism.

Get with the program, maggot.//////////////////

re: #129 Van Helsing

Ranks right up there with "increase taxes on Big xxxx".
I'm pretty sure that taxes are figured into the cost of production and profit margins are based on that.

So, who gets to pay the increased tax? Provided of course the corporation can stay in business with higher prices.

True- taxes on business DO get passed on to the consumer.

(Funny because someone mentioned this very thing to me last night, too.)

re: #117 Charles

I'll never understand why people think the best response to being banned is to send me insulting, nasty emails. If posting at LGF is important to you, I'd think you'd want to apologize and try again.

For example, "Know Your Enemy" was banned a few days ago for posting an insulting comment in a creationism thread. He emailed with an apology and asked for his account to be restored - and it was.

so of course the obama biden camp will get a pass for wanting easy interviews.
but sarah needs to fling herself to the crocodiles to establish her viability.
fck that.
barbara west sets a great example for the msm hacks who have soft balled the dems.
good for her.

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Anchorwoman In Biden Interview Married To GOP Consultant

Heh.

Ooohhh...they must not like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

In Ohio, Connie Schultz, who writes for the Cleveland Plain Dealer, and is obviously in the tank for Obama (and any Dem for that matter), is married to Sherrod Brown, a Democrat Senator.

Dems certainly don't get their panties in a twist about that connection.

re: #142 The Archivist

precisely why they say, "Preview is my firend" (sic)

I have found the trouble with preview, is you have to read your own post. Ugh.

re: #148 Charles

Charles, you are a most benevolent lizard leader.

re: #145 Spiny Norman

I'm thinking a good short-term money making scheme will be to make several $1000 bets with Obamites in my office who believe that their taxes will be lowered.

What hubris. Not only are they measuring curtains for the Oval Office, bet something blood red, but now they are trying to dictate to those First Amendment 'loving' media types what questions are okay. If they keep cutting off reporters who ask tough questions from accessing the One, then you can bet the reporters will start cutting off the One from their viewers. And it can not happen fast enough.

re: #131 Soona'

I read it earlier - I still contend that present-day Disney (with a few rare exceptions) is producing or releasing insipid schlock that is in its own way just as bad as Ollie's tripe.

re: #132 IslandLibertarian

What we are seeing in the treatment of this news organization is the face of oppressive FASCISM. It is how Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Min, Kim Jung Il (pick a few more evil bastards) act when in power.

Power to the Correct People!
(They can handle tough questions.)

I have absolutely no doubt that we are witnessing a blodless revolution.
It is a move to fundamentally change America, first through destruction & then rebuilding.
The vehicle is the ballot box & the tactics are fraud, intmidation, news manipulation & massive amounts of cash.

re: #141 wright1

I join in the cathartic sigh of relief in watching this video where Biden is eviscerated. What is that smell? The smell of toast I believe. I love the question "Are you serious?" - "Yes I am serious." Bien has hubris like most dishonest politicians. He is more concerned with the audacity of the question that the substantive quality.

By the way, a friend sent this to me and it is amusing I think and true:

"Yesterday on my way to lunch at Doe's, I passed one of the homeless guys in that area, with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money."

Once in the Doe's my waiter had on a "Obama 08" tee shirt.

When the bill came, I decided not to tip the waiter and explained to him while he had given me exceptional service, that his tee shirt made me feel he obviously believes in Senator Obama's plan to redistribute the wealth. I told him I was going to redistribute his tip to someone that I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. He stood there in disbelief and angrily stormed away.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $3 and told him to thank the waiter inside, as I had decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy looked at me in disbelief but seemed grateful.

As I got in my truck, I realized this rather unscientific redistribution experiment had left the homeless guy quite happy for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn.

Well, I guess this redistribution of wealth is going to take a while to catch on, with those doing the work."

That anecdotal "spread the wealth and the waiter" story may have some basis in truth, but your version is the third different version that I have seen. I have seen one where the story was told in third person, another where it was told in first, and yours where the waiter has an Obama T-shirt instead of an Obama Tie.

These things can take on a life of their own.

re: #141 wright1

In the spirit of "Redistributing Wealth", if ZerO wins, I plan to crank my withholding deductions up to the maximum, put it in savings and earn a little interest on MY money before I hand it over to the Marxist MF'ers.

re: #141 wright1

Some republicans I was meeting with last night and I came up with an idea of business cards to start leaving instead of tips if 0bama wins. Instead of a tip we leave a card that says "Inspired by 0bama, it has been decided that your tip we would normally leave will now be spread to others more in need than you."

The Democrat menu:

Grilled Biden smothered in an Obama Red Sauce

re: #141 wright1
"Bi[d]en has hubris like most dishonest politicians. He is more concerned with the audacity of the question that the substantive quality."

And don't forget how in the VP debate, someone observed afterwards that the "tell" for detecting Biden's lies was the statement "Mark my words" or any other similar emphasis.

I am going to email the news director at WFTV and congratulate them on that bit of TV. As a TV producer myself, I can truly appreciate Ms West's professionalism and calm demeanor. I wish all "on air" people were as determined as that lady.

Trying to watch football, and just found out McCain is going to reduce Medicare and Medicaid. That bastard./////////////////

re: #126 Peter Verkooijen

Off topic:

Example how media bias is distorting people's sense of reality at the highest level. I heard Bill Piatt, CIO of the World Bank's International Finance Corporation (IFC), say the following on October 15th at the OutsourceWorld conference in New York:

Now do this Google search.

Heh.

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,830

ORLY?

I take it that those documents are not supposed to be publically available?

Or am I missing something?

re: #157 buzzsawmonkey

Would have told the fellow congregant that in America, the ballot box is secret. For now.

re: #111 Sharmuta

What's appalling is the 0bama camp reaction- they're cutting off this news station. This should give others in the media cause to think twice about what it is they're potentially doing to themselves in the future should we be facing an 0bama administration. I know they won't think twice, but they should.

Imagine for a moment an 0bama press conference at the White House and some reporter asks the "wrong" question- perhaps not even aware their question is problematic. Will this reporters credentials be stripped? The media outlet barred from future interviews and press briefings? They really ought to think long and hard about the monster they've helped create- it just might bite them in the ass.

I agree, Sharmuta. I wrote my last column for a newspaper on Friday - it comes out tomorrow if the editors choose to run it. If it runs, I am pretty sure some parts will get edited out. It's getting harder for conservatives to get their views out in the MSM. I hope more will realize that their very profession is threatened.

re: #160 Sharmuta

absolutely brilliant!

re: #146 kansas

Cmon, those weren't just tough questions, they were unfair questions that certainly were not in the Democrat talking points. Since they were questions regarding The Messiah, and were related to his "socialist" views, and "socialist' is code for black, then of course it's racism.

Get with the program, maggot.//////////////////

Ah ha! I thought so & I am so down with the program.

Well I guess if the Obama campaign feels justified in banning this station for unfair questions, I guess the McCain/Palin campaign should be justified to cut out every single abc channel NPR, all cable and most foreign media.

re: #163 _RememberTonyC

i was writing this in E-Mail to them, if you can add a suggestion or idea ?

I would like to thank Channel 9 for asking serious Questions of Mr. Senator Biden.

These are questions concerning many Americans and have gone unanswered by Much of the Media.

Our Media is responsible to all Americans not a specific Candidate. It is difficult to Vote responsibly without accurate Information which we depend on from Media and which had seemed to have gone down into a blackhole this election.


kind regards, and if threatened remember their are Many Americans that will stand by Those who stand for Truthful Accurate Information ,Media.




A responsive Concerned Citizen

re: #159 IslandLibertarian

In the spirit of "Redistributing Wealth", if ZerO wins, I plan to crank my withholding deductions up to the maximum, put it in savings and earn a little interest on MY money before I hand it over to the Marxist MF'ers.

Another good thing to do is wake people up with ideas like those in Obama’s Redistribution of Wealth:

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read “Vote Obama, I need the money.” I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a “Obama 08″ tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference — just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need–the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I’ve decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient needed the money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

(Yes, I've posted this before, but there are still a few lizards who haven't seen it.)

re: #155 Quad Mocha Matti

I read it earlier - I still contend that present-day Disney (with a few rare exceptions) is producing or releasing insipid schlock that is in its own way just as bad as Ollie's tripe.

I agree. All one has to do is tune into the Disney Channel on a Saturday AM and see what they're shoving down kids' throats.

re: #164 kansas

Trying to watch football, and just found out McCain is going to reduce Medicare and Medicaid. That bastard./////////////////

The Democrats pull that dusty old canard out every four years and no one in the Media ever calls them on it.

re: #159 IslandLibertarian

In the spirit of "Redistributing Wealth", if ZerO wins, I plan to crank my withholding deductions up to the maximum, put it in savings and earn a little interest on MY money before I hand it over to the Marxist MF'ers.

Careful. There are penalties for under-withholding.

re: #148 Charles

For example, "Know Your Enemy" was banned a few days ago for posting an insulting comment in a creationism thread. He emailed with an apology and asked for his account to be restored - and it was.

Whom did he insult?

re: #145 Spiny Norman

"Middle-class tax cut"s can be defined in many ways. When taxes increase slower than the cost of living, politicians claim it's a tax cut. When you are taxed less, but someone else is taxed more and passes the cost to you, but you aren't taxed directly, that's a tax cut. When taxes are increased dramatically and then the increase is cut so that it is a smaller increase, that's a tax cut. Et cetera ad nauseum.

WFTV and staff deserve a Diogenes award for righteous news programming. Has any other station made the Obama ban of honor?

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

Good one, and so true.Like I told my libral friend that our town is run by fiscally conservative democrats, a concept she had never encountered, and possibly thought I made it up on the spot.

re: #167 Guy_Philly

Well- I hope you're published. Good luck!

re: #168 rightside

One wanted the card to say we could no longer afford a tip, but I thought that didn't get the message across concerning socialism.

Sharmuta (#160),

Some republicans I was meeting with last night and I came up with an idea of business cards to start leaving instead of tips if 0bama wins. Instead of a tip we leave a card that says "Inspired by 0bama, it has been decided that your tip we would normally leave will now be spread to others more in need than you."

Comment o' the day: I can't believe it's not socialism!

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign the read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed--just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

May have to try this next time I'm out on the town. And be packing I might add.

DH

How dare that trollop ask questions like that about the One! Oh, the effrontery!

Greasy joe was merely wallowing in his own crapulence.

re: #175 Spiny Norman

The Democrats pull that dusty old canard out every four years and no one in the Media ever calls them on it.

Hmmm. Democrats and media are synonymous, so aren't you being redundant?; )

re: #164 kansas

Trying to watch football, and just found out McCain is going to reduce Medicare and Medicaid. That bastard./////////////////

I will be willing to bet that there was no mention that the Democrats are thinking of abolishing the 401K tax breaks.

re: #179 J'accuzzi

I was wondering if sending them the Link to Khalidi and Tape withholding by LaTimes would be a little over the top?
Might they report on it? or look into it?

The Obama campaign has now cut off WFTV from any further interviews

Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? The GOP would have no one to talk to.

re: #165 Spiny Norman

I take it that those documents are not supposed to be publically available?

All (or at least most of them) have this disclaimer:

This document has a restricted distribution and may be used by recipients only in the performance of their official duties. Its contents may not be otherwise disclosedwithout WorldBankauthorization.

re: #179 J'accuzzi

WFTV and staff deserve a Diogenes award for righteous news programming. Has any other station made the Obama ban of honor?

the should work it into some ads, "The only local station to be banned by a presidential election campaign, we're asking the tough questions for you"

re: #155 Quad Mocha Matti

I read it earlier - I still contend that present-day Disney (with a few rare exceptions) is producing or releasing insipid schlock that is in its own way just as bad as Ollie's tripe.

I stopped paying attention to Disney movie when Pocahontas came out. When she started singing what I called "The Scolding Song"*, I knew Disney was turning politically correct, and boring.

* "The Scolding Song" is what I call the song where she starts by scolding John Smith for thinking that "the only people who are people, are people who look and act like you," and then proceeds to spend the rest of the song saying that he's really only a person if he acts like her people.

re: #133 jaunte

Especially in the face of data that tells the opposite story; when top marginal rates are lowered, more tax revenues are generated.

And the One, when this was pointed out to him, said he still favored a tax increase for "fairness."

re: #173 gmsc

and this Lizard is glad you did! Thanks!

re: #171 willowone

WillowOne ... Here's a thought or two for you. The news director should know that his anchor (Ms West) showed a great deal of courage and persistence in her interview. While her guest treated her in a condescending manner, Ms West was unflappable and used her allotted time wisely. She never sunk to a level approaching Senator Biden, nor did she react in a way that showed any sign of being intimidated. In short, that segment may very well be EMMY-worthy on a local level. It was smart, tough, and served the public. And the WFTV news department should be compelemented for its fine work.

re: #185 Syrah

I will be willing to bet that there was no mention that the Democrats are thinking of abolishing the 401K tax breaks.

The most arrogant bit:
“I want to spend our nation’s dollar for retirement security better. Everybody would now be covered” if the plan were adopted, Ghilarducci said.

What did the nation do to EARN that dollar? Nothing. Toodk it from us at gunpoint.

re: #159 IslandLibertarian

In the spirit of "Redistributing Wealth", if ZerO wins, I plan to crank my withholding deductions up to the maximum, put it in savings and earn a little interest on MY money before I hand it over to the Marxist MF'ers.

Even if the Øbamunists (with much prayer and fingers/toes crossed) lose, we in Washington State will still be screwed if Queen Christine re-steals the election. She's working on a plan to coerce convert convince us to embrace a state income tax. If the pro-Sound Transit prop. gets approved, sales tax (especially in King County) will go even more skyward.

If Ø takes all, a state income tax imposed in WA won't matter much, since Ø allegedly intends to jack up the self-employment tax. I won't have any income left to be taxed by the state!

re: #175 Spiny Norman

The Democrats pull that dusty old canard out every four years and no one in the Media ever calls them on it.

That spiel didn't work in 2000 or 2004. I say to the Dems: Go for it!

re: #193 _RememberTonyC
I agree, ty i will write more fully.

re: #174 Soona'

I agree. All one has to do is tune into the Disney Channel on a Saturday AM and see what they're shoving down kids' throats.

If I had any doubt that I have gotten old, it evaporated when I saw a little of the Disney Channel a couple of months ago.
They have sexualized kids. They had tweeners & some even younger dancing in a provocative way. I"m looking at it thinking WTF is wrong with these parents? Never, ever hurry up a kids loss of innocence.

re: #185 Syrah

I will be willing to bet that there was no mention that the Democrats are thinking of abolishing the 401K tax breaks.

Nah, it was a Hussein commercial, but you know, I'm not sure that might not be a good idea. I think the Roth IRA might be preferable. Of course they'll probably tax that too. Actually I heard something about the Dems wanting to confiscate IRAs and put the money into the Social Security fund or some idiocy. No linky though.

re: #156 opnion

I have absolutely no doubt that we are witnessing a blodless revolution.
It is a move to fundamentally change America, first through destruction & then rebuilding.
The vehicle is the ballot box & the tactics are fraud, intmidation, news manipulation & massive amounts of cash.

It will bloodless, non-violent (except for a few tantrums here and there), and NICE.
It will be purely destructive.
The left never has built anything of any worth. It can only destroy.

re: #117 Charles

I'll never understand why people think the best response to being banned is to send me insulting, nasty emails. If posting at LGF is important to you, I'd think you'd want to apologize and try again.

Being a webmaster myself, I feel your pain. Personally, I think the anonymity of the Internet works to engender a sense of entitlement among a lot of its users. Some users start to see sites they patronize as pre-existing infrastructure that is simply there for the benefit of everyone, and not as the labor of dedicated people to a particular purpose. They've never had to wonder why a particular process is segfaulting or why Apache is starting to consume more and more memory until the whole server locks up. I've even gotten e-mails from banned users accusing me of suppressing their freedom of speech. Those are usually met with a head shake, a chuckle, and a delete. Also, great site you've got here.

re: #181 Sharmuta

One wanted the card to say we could no longer afford a tip, but I thought that didn't get the message across concerning socialism.

What about leaving a card saying that their tip is being distributed to people at the local homeless shelter because they need the money more than he/she does?

re: #194 Van Helsing

As if all tripping over each other to hand more of our money over to the corrupt influences that brought us the mortgage meltdown.

Is there a limit to how many posts the "My Favorites" function could hold?

re: #157 buzzsawmonkey

Catch 453 from the lefty playbook.

I live in Orlando, and for years WFTV has had the reputation of being pretty good when it comes to investigative journalism, etc. I applaud Barbara West for holding Schmoe Biden's feet to the fire.

What crybabies these Dems are. Obama really is the billion dollar baby.

re: #188 Peter Verkooijen

re: #165 Spiny Norman

I take it that those documents are not supposed to be publically available?

All (or at least most of them) have this disclaimer:

This document has a restricted distribution and may be used by recipients only in the performance of their official duties. Its contents may not be otherwise disclosedwithout WorldBankauthorization.

Looks like somebody's lying:

"... But at no point has a hacking attack accessed sensitive information in the World Bank's Treasury, procurement, anti-corruption or human resources departments."

;^)

re: #199 kansas

Here's a link to USNEWS report:
[Link: www.usnews.com...]

"House Democrats recently invited Teresa Ghilarducci, a professor at the New School of Social Research, to testify before a subcommittee on her idea to eliminate the preferential tax treatment of the popular retirement plans. In place of 401(k) plans, she would have workers transfer their dough into government-created "guaranteed retirement accounts" for every worker. The government would deposit $600 (inflation indexed) every year into the GRAs. Each worker would also have to save 5 percent of pay into the accounts, to which the government would pay a measly 3 percent return."

re: #197 willowone

cool ... gotta run ... good luck!

re: #202 rightymouse

One wanted the card to say we could no longer afford a tip, but I thought that didn't get the message across concerning socialism.

What about leaving a card saying that their tip is being distributed to people at the local homeless shelter because they need the money more than he/she does?

Oh, and put "Obama/Biden '08" on the card too.

re: #181 Sharmuta

"I'm happy to have taken the liberty of the tip I had planned to give you, in order to redistribute it to someone who is less fortunate. You know, spread the wealth around, as Sen. obama wants."

re: #209 jaunte

Thanks, that was it.

re: #199 kansas

Nah, it was a Hussein commercial, but you know, I'm not sure that might not be a good idea. I think the Roth IRA might be preferable. Of course they'll probably tax that too. Actually I heard something about the Dems wanting to confiscate IRAs and put the money into the Social Security fund or some idiocy. No linky though.

If you ever find such a link, please post it.

These are the things the RNC should be running ads on. It is a real shame that the RNC never does anything like that.

re: #204 TheMatrix31

Is there a limit to how many posts the "My Favorites" function could hold?

No limit.

If it didn't portend disaster, I would love to see the Obama handle a really tight situation, something along the line of the Cuban Missle Crisis.The red diaper crybaby would collapse under the challenge of a Khruschev.

re: #160 Sharmuta

Why wait?
re: #173 gmsc

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

I will redistribute wealth at retail stores, markets and restaurants by paying my bill and tipping good service. I will never give a handout to someone that has the ability to beg for money and especially ANYONE that has skill to make a sign asking for money. THERE IS NO SPARE CHANGE!

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

/so?

This is how it happens, you ask tough questions, you get punished or denied access. Your news organization is then made an example. All the remaining news organizations then fall in to line and from that moment on ask puff ball questions like "If you were a tree, what kind of a tree would you be?"

re: #207 solomonpanting

What crybabies these Dems are. Obama really is the billion dollar baby.

them being cry babies is bad, them being cry babies in charge is the scary thought. cry Babies with a nail gun!

re: #215 Charles

No limit.

Good to know. Seems like everything that's coming out is being favorite-ed by me.

re: #177 Moe Katz

Whom did he insult?

Oh, found it. Now I know....

re: #27 troonbop

I was having that discussion with my wife earlier (re: PM Harper Conservative gov.) weird!

re: #199 kansas

Actually I heard something about the Dems wanting to confiscate IRAs and put the money into the Social Security fund or some idiocy. No linky though.

That's what they're doing in Argentina. I think (hope) no one has proposed it for the US. It's criminal, if you ask me. I haven't spent the past ten years putting every spare dollar into retirement accounts in order to have the government take it all away from me.

re: #209 jaunte

Here's a link to USNEWS report:
[Link: www.usnews.com...]

re: #214 Syrah

This was from Jaunte.

This reporter is more threatening than Putin and Achmadinejad put together!

Right Senator Joe?

re: #216 vagabond trader

If it didn't portend disaster, I would love to see the Obama handle a really tight situation, something along the line of the Cuban Missle Crisis.The red diaper crybaby would collapse under the challenge of a Khruschev.

I get your sentiment, but I sure as hell don't want to see that scenario. thats not on my wish list of things to see.

re: #200 wolfie

It will bloodless, non-violent (except for a few tantrums here and there), and NICE.
It will be purely destructive.
The left never has built anything of any worth. It can only destroy.

The Left has always been parasitical. Classic Marxism admonishes that the first step toward socialism is capitalism. In other words, "Let them build something & then we will just take it."

re: #199 kansas

Nah, it was a Hussein commercial, but you know, I'm not sure that might not be a good idea. I think the Roth IRA might be preferable. Of course they'll probably tax that too. Actually I heard something about the Dems wanting to confiscate IRAs and put the money into the Social Security fund or some idiocy. No linky though.

Rush talked about this last week. Yep. It's true.

re: #218 rawmuse

Or the rest of the media sees the danger and mobs the bullies...
/damned unlikely though...

re: #211 rightymouse

Oh, and put "Obama/Biden '08" on the card too.

I like that idea!

I think the best way to teach the downside to socialism is to leave it vague as to just exactly who it is that's more in need of the tip money over the one who earned it. If it's the governments discretion to spread the wealth around to "the needy", then that discretion is available to me too.

Because frankly, if I ever did this crazy idea, the tip money would go the the worthy charity known as "me".

Barbara West for Anti-Idiotarian of the year.

re: #156 opnion

I have absolutely no doubt that we are witnessing a blodless revolution.
It is a move to fundamentally change America, first through destruction & then rebuilding.
The vehicle is the ballot box & the tactics are fraud, intmidation, news manipulation & massive amounts of cash.

What scares me the most is Obama's community organizing history + his promise to build a national social service network equal in size and budget to the army + his education background (Ayers...). Obama represents the endgame in the long march through the institutions. Even if he's a one term president, the damage will be almost impossible to reverse. The new structures he'll build in his first term will probably make certain he will be a two term president and that his succession will be rigged as well.

Google search results:

Orlando Sentinel - Barbara West humiliates WFTV by... · Politics
I urge all you you in the interest of fair reporting to write a letter to WFTV....

[and so on].

re: #216 vagabond trader

If it didn't portend disaster, I would love to see the Obama handle a really tight situation, something along the line of the Cuban Missle Crisis.The red diaper crybaby would collapse under the challenge of a Khruschev.

He'd capitulate completely, but claim a "moral victory".

Czar Vlad the Poisoner must be licking his chops.

re: #217 IslandLibertarian

Why wait?
re: #173 gmsc

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

I will redistribute wealth at retail stores, markets and restaurants by paying my bill and tipping good service. I will never give a handout to someone that has the ability to beg for money and especially ANYONE that has skill to make a sign asking for money. THERE IS NO SPARE CHANGE!

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."

/so?

Check the story again. You're not giving them your spare change. You're giving them someone else's spare change. They support 0bama and the involuntary redistribution of their wealth, don't they?

re: #231 The Shadow Do

Barbara West for Anti-Idiotarian of the year.

Seconded.

re: #232 Peter Verkooijen

What scares me the most is Obama's community organizing history + his promise to build a national socialistist service network equal in size and budget to the army + his education background (Ayers...). Obama represents the endgame in the long march through the institutions. Even if he's a one term president, the damage will be almost impossible to reverse. The new structures he'll build in his first term will probably make certain he will be a two term president and that his succession will be rigged as well.

fixed it for ya...

re: #201 Oriculum
Charles, how about a post where we can advise you on the stories we think you should be posting instead of the ones you do? (And why this is such a terrible website but we keep visiting anyway.)
/sarc
Within ten comments it would be off topic.

re: #233 David IV of Georgia

Google search results:

Orlando Sentinel - Barbara West humiliates WFTV by... · Politics
I urge all you you in the interest of fair reporting to write a letter to WFTV....

[and so on].

Unbelievable.

Actually, it's Google, so it's not.

re: #224 kansas

There's a good concrete example of the effects of interest on savings in that story:

"Ghilarducci would offer a lousy 3 percent return. The long-run return of the stock market, adjusted for inflation, is more like 7 percent. Look at it this way: Ten thousand dollars growing at 3 percent a year for 40 years leaves you with roughly $22,000. But $10,000 growing at 7 percent a year for 40 years leaves you with $150,000. That is a high price to pay for what Ghilarducci describes as the removal of "a source of financial anxiety and...fruitless discussions with brokers and financial sales agents, who are also desperate for more fees and are often wrong about markets." Please, I'll take a bit of worry for an additional $128,000.

5) What effect would this plan have on an already battered stock market? Well, I would imagine it would send it even lower, sticking a shiv into the portfolios of everyone who didn't jump aboard. But I am sure the Chinese would love to jump in and buy all our cheap stocks to fund the retirement of their citizens.

My bottom line: If you believe in the long-run dynamism of the American economy, then you have to believe in the stock market. Listen to superinvestor Buffett, not the prof from the New School.

[Link: www.usnews.com...]

re: #181 Sharmuta

Well- I hope you're published. Good luck!

Well, OF COURSE it will get PUBLISHED. That's what blogs are for. ;-) The question is, will it get printed?

re: #232 Peter Verkooijen

What scares me the most is Obama's community organizing history + his promise to build a national social service network equal in size and budget to the army + his education background (Ayers...). Obama represents the endgame in the long march through the institutions. Even if he's a one term president, the damage will be almost impossible to reverse. The new structures he'll build in his first term will probably make certain he will be a two term president and that his succession will be rigged as well.

I do follow your thought. When BHO has the levers of power , why not rig his reelection? Why not rig the election of his successor?
They have shown no respect for the democratic process, why be fussy about how they retain power?

I posted this yesterday but it bears repeating...

I spent the day in NH yesterday and between the drive up to my nephew's football game (they won!) and the ride down the coast on the way home, the McCain signs far outnumbered the Obama signs. Further, I do not recall seeing half the amount of signs for Bush in 04 as I have seen for McCain this year....and that goes for NH, MA and ME.

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

Even people I know who are voting McCain do not, for the most part, understand the depth of what Obama's puppetmasters seek to foist on us.

I'm sure they don't. People today see socialism as just another economic alternative without thinking it through.

To me socialism is soft slavery to the state, while communism is hard slavery to the state. But most people don't take the time to think about it in these terms. It's just another option besides that eeeevil capitalism.

re: #208 Spiny Norman

Looks like somebody's lying:

"... But at no point has a hacking attack accessed sensitive information in the World Bank's Treasury, procurement, anti-corruption or human resources departments."

Actually they're probably trying to be smart here. Treasury, procurement, anti-corruption or human resources departments may not have been breached, even if everything else was.

We've seen the trick before, we'll see a lot more in the coming years. It's like the old Soviet Union, you have to read between lines.

re: #236 gmsc

Check the story again. You're not giving them your spare change. You're giving them someone else's spare change. They support 0bama and the involuntary redistribution of their wealth, don't they?

You've already appropriated MY money as THEIRS?
Think brother! Think!

re: #216 vagabond trader

Israel pre-emptively attacks Iran. The mullahs sink an American ship in the Arabian Gulf.
Or- Castro dies, Cuban counter revolution threatens. Putin and Hugo Chaves send troops to Cuba.
What would O do? (WWOD?)

re: #232 Peter Verkooijen

What scares me the most is Obama's community organizing history + his promise to build a national social service network equal in size and budget to the army + his education background (Ayers...). Obama represents the endgame in the long march through the institutions. Even if he's a one term president, the damage will be almost impossible to reverse. The new structures he'll build in his first term will probably make certain he will be a two term president and that his succession will be rigged as well.

Antonio Gramsci would be proud.

I wonder if one of the duties of Barry's National Socialist Service force will be informing on "wasters" and "horders".

/no sarc

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

Even people I know who are voting McCain do not, for the most part, understand the depth of what Obama's puppetmasters seek to foist on us.

That's what I've found too.

Did anyone else notice how Biden's eyelids went to fluttering rapidly on some of those answers?

Isn't that a tipoff?

re: #240 Spiny Norman

Unbelievable.

Actually, it's Google, so it's not.

re: #249 Jim in Virginia

Israel pre-emptively attacks Iran. The mullahs sink an American ship in the Arabian Gulf.
Or- Castro dies, Cuban counter revolution threatens. Putin and Hugo Chaves send troops to Cuba.
What would O do? (WWOD?)

Uhhhhhhhhh, vote present? Maybe tell them to call him if they need him?

re: #252 The Archivist

Did anyone else notice how Biden's eyelids went to fluttering rapidly on some of those answers?

Isn't that a tipoff?

His eyelids can move?

re: #252 The Archivist

Did anyone else notice how Biden's eyelids went to fluttering rapidly on some of those answers?

Isn't that a tipoff?

No, that's brain damage.//

re: #254 loppyd

The botox only works the forehead.

All together now! Everybody JUMP to the new thread.

re: #256 The Archivist

The botox only works the forehead.

Ah, I see.

But I though it was what made John Kerry look less like Droopy Dawg during the 04 election?

Saw this on Fox news. She harpooned Biden with one shot. Obama would not have liked the questions either and probably would have left in mid interview. Biden had the same look Carter had on his face when the first caller tore into him. The smile just slipped away.

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

Even people I know who are voting McCain do not, for the most part, understand the depth of what Obama's puppetmasters seek to foist on us.

I believe that even The One's "mentors" will be surprised at what he does.

I also believe that he is going to remake the Democratic party into something its founders wouldn't recognize, finishing the work of the "enlightened intellectual elite" going back to Adlai Stevenson, who said the he could beat Ike for President because the "smart, sophisticated people" were all supporting him, and they were the ones who decided elections.

He was wrong. Twice.

But even if The One loses, he will very likely remain a power in the party, just as Stevenson did. (Please note that he's already moved the DNC to Chicago, and whatever happens, it will probably remain there.) Which means that if he's not the incumbent in 2012, he will almost certainly be the party's standard bearer yet again. And be cherry-picking and grooming their Presidential candidates for at least the next two decades, or even beyond.

Take a good look at The One. Win or lose, he is in all probability the future face of the Democratic Party.

/which will be very difficult to distinguish from the CPSU, I suspect

cheers

eon

re: #230 Sharmuta

I like that idea!

I think the best way to teach the downside to socialism is to leave it vague as to just exactly who it is that's more in need of the tip money over the one who earned it. If it's the governments discretion to spread the wealth around to "the needy", then that discretion is available to me too.

Because frankly, if I ever did this crazy idea, the tip money would go the the worthy charity known as "me".

I like that idea re: communicating discretion, although moonbats I know believe that only gummint should have that discretion.

Otherwise, they tend to go beserk if one insists on the idea of taking from them and giving it to another person without government intervention. Probably because they prefer to not think about the issue in any serious way.

Right after GWB's first tax cuts, my mother moaned about how the poor would suffer, so I told her if she felt that way to send a check to the IRS marked "for the poor". She got mad at me.