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Obama Robbing the Cradle for Votes

Politics | Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:57:31 am PDT

The Barack Obama campaign is now in the business of brainwashing children.

Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need | Kids for Obama.

Notice the unicorn next to the American flag.

In the words of Senator Barack Obama, the “Obama for America Campaign is a different type of campaign”. For the first time in campaign history, children ages 12 and under, have a place to go and actually vote—through their voice. What a great way to be introduced to politics and to express your support for Senator Obama.

Check out the Kids for Obama Starter Kit!

Below you will find a list of activities children 12 and under can do to get involved. To start, print out our Logo Coloring Sheet, color it in and display at your house or in your school.

10 WAYS KIDS FOR OBAMA CAN GET INVOLVED:

Create a Kids for Obama Group on My.Barackobama.com. For example, Chicago Kids for Obama or DC Kids for Obama and throw a party!

Write a letter or editorial to your local news paper, expressing “Why Barack Obama should become the next US President”.

Find a Pen Pal - it could be in your school, city, state, or another state. Write and discuss different ways you can get involved.

Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or “an expression of Democracy”. For example, the Senator sitting in the White House or working on Capitol. Hill. You can send your drawing to the Obama for America Campaign Headquarters in Chicago and it will be posted for the Senator to see.

Implement T-Shirt Thursday. Get friends to wear an official Obama for America T-Shirt to school.

Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama.

Post an official Obama for America Campaign sticker/logo on your school bag.

Wear an Obama for America Campaign button and/or clothing.

Host a Senator Barack Obama House Party or sleep-over.

Contribute to the Kids for Obama Blog.

This really is new ground for a Presidential campaign: specifically targeting children, to get them to influence their parents. I’m sure the leftists will try to make excuses for it, but this is one of the most disgusting, unethical tactics I’ve ever seen in politics. And that’s saying plenty.

Via Dr. Slogan, with whose comments I completely agree:

Is this all so bad? Is it bad at all? Shouldn’t kids be involved? Aren’t they entitled to their opinions? Is it wrong to reach out to them to open their eyes, so that they could change opinions of their parents? There are two ways to answer these questions. One is simple ethics. Make no mistake: this is not about reaching out to the supporters. Sen. Obama openly goes after the kids of people who don’t plan to vote for him. He and his staff see the minds of children as a backdoor to get to the voting parents and grandparents. So, yes, it is bad. It is wrong. It is despicable. And there’s no excuse for this.

There’s another way to answer the question. What does our government think about this? Are they ok with targeting children with propaganda? As it turns out, they are not. When it comes to commercial advertisement, government bodies such as FDC and FDA have been going after marketers who target children age 12 and under. Yes, it’s exactly the same age group that Sen. Obama targets so explicitly. Just last year FDC along with its European counterpart pushed Masterfoods to stop marketing of its products (e.g. Snickers, Milky Way and Twix) to kids. Apparently, from the government’s perspective, kids age 12 and under are not mature enough to figure out whether Snickers are good or bad for their health, and thus can be misled by advertising. But of course, figuring out where a presidential candidate stands on taxes, abortion, education and national security is much easier. So why would the government have any problem with that?

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1 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 8:59:30am
2 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:00:48am

Kinda makes you yearn for the old days of Joe the Camel.

3 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:00:59am

And this from someone who can think of a baby as punishment.

Obama is all about the use of others.

4 DaddyG  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:01:21am

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the pundits and their polls:
They are sampling all the masses; but their data has some holes:
The MSM has already assigned predestined roles:
They’ve skewed it all along

Glory, Glory Hallelujah
They’ve appointed our new rulers
Dirty data’s meant to fool ya
While they anoint The One.

Despite the factual warnings from one hundred blogging nerds,
They have made for Him an altar out of sycophantic words;
They have censored film on YouTube to protect the sheeple herds:
It’s Bull S--- by the ton.

Glory, Glory Hallelujah
They’ve appointed our new rulers
ACORNS ballots are peculiar
So they can crown The One.

In the beauty of the madras he was taught across the sea,
Then a leftist education in the green leagues of Ivy:
As he voted naught but present, they paid off his loans for free
The mob is marching on.

Glory, Glory Hallelujah
They’ve appointed our new rulers
Redistribution is their tool
Bend over here they come!

He is hoping that his change rides on a propaganda wave,
He is bloviating wildly, while the moonbats rant and rave,
So the world’s legs shall all tingle, while he parts the rising waves,
The world shall all be one.

Glory, Glory Hallelujah
They’ve appointed our new rulers
You’re a racist if you argue
You will obey The One!

5 yesandno  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:01:39am

This is the scary part of early childhood education (indoctrination).

6 ErnieG  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:05am

re: #1 buzzsawmonkey

Do they have colored neck scarves, like the Spies in 1984?

More like the Young Pioneers.

7 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:25am

Just heard a talking head on Fox say that BO's "closing argument" will appeal to the "better angels of our nature". So this development is not surprising considering that it comes from a man who now thinks that he's Abraham Lincoln

8 CapeCoddah  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:28am

This is despicable, now it IS time for us to protect the children. The left is disgusting.

9 bosforus  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:31am

I don't know about y'all but I'm pre-ordering my Obama Children's Songbook for next Christmas. This year's songbook is fine but I need something a little more comprehensive.

10 Kozak  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:37am

Raising good little Fascists for Tommorow.

11 Alouette  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:51am
12 joncelli  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:55am

Welcome to the new communism, just like the old communism.

13 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:02:57am
14 non-lib Nina  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:03:21am

Not my kids , BHO.

15 obscured by clouds  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:03:42am

You just can't make this stuff up. Where have you gone, Hillary Clinton? (Lord knows I never thought I'd put those words together).

16 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:03:55am
17 DaddyG  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:11am

...form a choir of your friends and get a Hollywood producer to "happen to stop by and film the whole thing". Post it on YouTube as a grassroots effort.

/

18 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:15am
19 Ojoe  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:30am

re: #7 CIA Reject

I hereby let lose a mile long string of curse words on that Fox reporter for the huge disrespect shown to Abraham Lincoln and the American people.

20 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:33am

I'm sure Prof. Ayer's wholeheartedly endorses this "educational" initiative.

21 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:44am

re: #15 obscured by clouds

You just can't make this stuff up. Where have you gone, Hillary Clinton? (Lord knows I never thought I'd put those words together).


Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo woo woo

22 non-lib Nina  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:57am

This just keeps getting better and better. Whats next? Keep it coming!

23 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:04:59am

re: #14 non-lib Nina

Not my kids , BHO.

Amen.

24 doppelganglander  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:05:05am

Completely typical of totalitarian regimes. Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, the Soviet Union, Cambodia, China, every country behind the Iron Curtain. Wait until the Boy Scouts are replaced with the Socialist Scouts (I really need a more clever name than that).

25 looking closely  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:05:13am

Reminds me of the McDonald's playgrounds. . .to lure the kids to take their parents.
Part of this is Obama's deep pockets.
He's so flush with cash, he can spend it trying to convince kids to vote.

26 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:05:14am

So now they're going to be teaching goose stepping as well as sex education in kindergarten?

Dear leader, I need potty!

27 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:05:16am

re: #8 CapeCoddah

This is despicable, now it IS time for us to protect the children. The left is disgusting.

This reminds me of my and my wife's liberal friend's who hate the Military and this country and wouldn't care if their kids get blown up in a terrorist attack as long as they are able to have an abortion?

28 samhein  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:05:43am

Is this even legal?
"Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama."

Just when I thought Obama could not get any lower or dirtier, he has sunk even further.

29 Racer X  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:05:57am

Sure. No problem. Target children as your supporters. Because they completely understand what communism, socialism, fascism, and dictators are all about right?

Right?

30 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:02am

Will they tattle on their folks?

31 jamie  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:19am

When I was a kid, I begged my parents for a Nintendo. Seems like a pretty heavy evolution in what kids ask their parents for.

32 non-lib Nina[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:25am
33 Boolz  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:36am

what harm is there to let the pigs educate the pups?

34 The Other Les  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:46am

So Die Grosse NULL is setting up Die Obamajugend.

Gosh. What a surprise.

35 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:51am

re: #28 samhein

Is this even legal?
"Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama."

Just when I thought Obama could not get any lower or dirtier, he has sunk even further.

"If you know an adult who voted for McCain, go to this website..."

36 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:06:57am

re: #29 Racer X

Sure. No problem. Target children as your supporters. Because they completely understand what communism, socialism, fascism, and dictators are all about right?

Right?

My kids got the picture at an early age.

37 x-wing  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:00am

Testing..

38 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:09am

re: #19 Ojoe

I hereby let lose a mile long string of curse words on that Fox reporter for the huge disrespect shown to Abraham Lincoln and the American people.

I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiment but I think it's misdirected. If I heard properly they were reporting that BO will actually use those words in his address.

This takes hubris to a whole new level.

39 Russkilitlover  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:10am

Today, it's "show your support for Obama;" tomorrow it will be "denounce your parents."

40 bosforus  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:13am

re: #37 x-wing

Testing..

Fail.

41 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:27am

The Obama campaign is using all avenues to attempt to win the election. GOTV takes many forms, from the legal to the dubious to the outright illegal. This is in the highly dubious category.

They're hoping to get enough people talking about Obama and simple catchy slogans (hope, change), that the parents will have to address the issue with their kids. Some parents might actually be swayed by the claptrap and propagandizing, but many are more cognizant of this stuff.

I also think that many kids simply aren't looking at the Obama website; this is geared to the folks who need the Obama campaign rhetoric distilled to its essence. It's geared to parents, community groups, etc., to indoctrinate another generation of redistributionists.

Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama.

Vote for Obama because it's a vote for the children. Gee, I've heard that one before too. Not exactly in favorable terms either.

42 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:28am

Bring it on to The Kid, BHO. He'll take your lunch money from you and make you cwyyyyyyyyyyy.

43 Claire  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:52am

Bill Ayers probably thought this one up.

44 cblesz  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:07:53am

re: #7 CIA Reject

Just heard a talking head on Fox say that BO's "closing argument" will appeal to the "better angels of our nature". So this development is not surprising considering that it comes from a man who now thinks that he's Abraham Lincoln


Abraham Lincoln? Doesn't he think he is the Messiah?

45 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:08:01am

And here comes Rush.

46 jetprop  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:08:04am

The pentagram in the "kids for 0bama" artwork is kind of odd.
/just sayin'

47 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:08:13am

re: #39 Russkilitlover

Today, it's "show your support for Obama;" tomorrow it will be "denounce your parents."

Any kid who sees a shrink already does that?

48 notutopia  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:08:20am

The urging of Gestapo tactics to emplore voters to USE your children to notify their GRANDPARENTS to vote for O under the guise of EMOTIONAL manipulation is
HORRIFYING!
DAMN it O. Leave our children out of your socialist ideology and our school systems!

49 hedspase  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:08:25am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Me, I'll stick with

Trustworthy
Loyal
Helpful
Friendly
Courteous
Kind
Obedient
Cheerful
Thrifty
Brave
Clean and Reverent.

RACIST

50 rightwinger3  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:08:26am

It would never happen but I'd love to see my son try to convince Granddad to vote 0bama!

51 Kyle_st  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:04am

The Left have always understood the importance of getting to children as early as possible. That's why our public schools are the way they are: full of leftist, liberal, socialist programming and teaching.

52 non-lib Nina  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:04am

re: #50 rightwinger3

It would never happen but I'd love to see my son try to convince Granddad to vote 0bama!

It sure would not happen in my house!

53 realwest  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:05am

Good morning Charles - For the first time, I'm really starting to get scared of Obama. Fortunately I don't believe he's gonna get elected.
But this is a scary dude - much scarier than Billy Boy Ayers who is, if nothing else, not as smooth and waaay too open about calling for the demise of America!

54 jamie  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:19am

re: #28 samhein

Is this even legal?
"Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama."

Just when I thought Obama could not get any lower or dirtier, he has sunk even further.

Sure, it's legal. You can ask someone underage to encourage their parents to engage in a political act. What I don't understand is who on the Obama team thought, "You know, undecided/soft McCain parents are going to be in their living room and have an epiphany when little Jimmy asks them to vote Obama."

Seriously, Mrs. Jamie and I haven't started having kids yet, but maybe there is a parent here who can tell me they'd honestly be swayed by a child's suggestion. I just can't see it myself.

55 Racer X  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:22am

Rush is starting out with Obama's "spread the wealth" audio tape.

56 FloridaAnole  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:25am

He's just getting his Young Pioneers movement set up. Script for kiddie discussion group: "Now, children, today we will learn about how the Constitution is a fundamentally flawed document; Great Fuhrer Barack got this idea way back in 2001. Go home and tell your parents all about it; and be sure and report to dear teacher, here, if your mommy and daddy don't like what you say."

57 razorbacker  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:29am

I just noticed something today.

The MSM tells us that Obiden is inevitable. Done deal. Republicans toast, mmmkay. No-one will vote for a Republican. I've got that.

So why, just why is it that not a single local ad that I've heard will identify our Donks running as Democrat?

They're all 'standing up for the little guy'. 'Fighting for you'. You get the drift. But they don't identify themselves as Democrats.

Almost like they're ashamed of something.

Can't imagine why.

58 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:31am

re: #44 cblesz

Abraham Lincoln? Doesn't he think he is the Messiah?

He's going for the non-denominational vote.

59 cartoonboy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:37am

"Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or “an expression of Democracy”. For example, the Senator sitting in the White House or working on Capitol. Hill."

I jus dwew a pixtur of obama bwaking my pigy banx.

60 Dartmouth  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:37am

Went campaigning for McCain yesterday. There was a brigade of three ~10 year-olds on bikes trying to steal our signs while shouting, "OBAMA'S GONNA WIN!"

The brainwashing campaign appears to be working.

61 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:38am

Good news, folks:

That bombshell redistribution audio that came out yesterday is #1 in views on Youtube right now. Perhaps that'll sway things somewhat.

62 doppelganglander  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:56am

re: #45 Who Watches the Watchmen?

And here comes Rush.

First story, The Tape. It's on, baby.

63 non-lib Nina  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:09:58am

re: #55 Racer X

Rush is starting out with Obama's "spread the wealth" audio tape.

Nice! Great work all!

64 Lumpy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:10:02am
65 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:10:24am

Obama Jugend.

It has a horrible ring.

66 Ben Hur  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:10:48am

They've also been advertising in video games.

67 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:10:57am
68 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:10:59am

MORE good news:

The number 10 video on youtube is the audio of Obama saying that the Constitution is majorly flawed.

69 Boolz  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:11:10am

re: #30 MandyManners

Will they tattle on their folks?

"Mr. Obama, daddy's been hoarding wheat in the barn again"

70 Opinionated  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:11:22am

Once the radical Left takes power it doesn't easily relinquish.

These kids, in 5 years, at or near voting age, will be pushing to repeal the Twenty-second Amendment

71 rightwinger3  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:11:26am

re: #52 non-lib Nina

It sure would not happen in my house!

Nina, nor in mine! My son is a far-rightwinger even worse than me I think he posts under the name rightwinger3million.

72 ladycatnip  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:11:43am

Next the One will do away with term limits, then get himself elected for life.

73 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:01am

My eight-year-old is disgusted with the pro-Obama brainwashing attempts on the cable channel Nickelodeon.

74 DaddyG  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:05am

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

Me, I'll stick with

Trustworthy
Loyal
Helpful
Friendly
Courteous
Kind
Obedient
Cheerful
Thrifty
Brave
Clean and
Reverent.

You forgot Hungry. That's the unwritten part of the Scout Law.

75 realwest  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:12am

re: #61 ClosetConservative
Ah for those of us who are not members of YouTube, do ya have a link?!

76 ghengis was a wuss  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:16am

Obama: Goebbels got nuthin' on him. Che was a flacid wannabe next to him.

Hustler in Chief of the New Thugocracy

77 The Other Les  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:20am

re: #51 Kyle_st

The Left have always understood the importance of getting to children as early as possible. That's why our public schools are the way they are: full of leftist, liberal, socialist programming and teaching.

It's time to start cleaning out that cesspit.

78 samhein  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:23am

Perhaps I should clarify my #28 comment.

By asking if it was legal, from what I read, Obama is asking children to get their adult(s) to vote for them by using the adult's vote. Shouldn't someone in the election process be questioning this? Anyone? Seriously. If any other politician did this, they would be accused of exploiting children!

79 Iron Fist  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:24am

re: #46 jetprop

They thought that the "666" on the forehead was a little too in-your-face. They can't really start that nonsense until the new Congress is seated.

80 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:27am

This has been up at the Obama website for many months now. I posted a link back in August.

It's scary stuff. Keep an eye on the public schools. Should Obama become President, I expect his speeches will become part of school curriculum. And teachers who never would have considered putting up a picture of any previous President will suddenly have pictures of Obama in every classroom.

The indotrination has only just begun.

81 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:35am
82 Daisy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:40am

He's learned a thing or two from his friends the Palestinians. For now it's coloring books, not suicide belts and Jew eating rabbits.

83 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:50am
84 Ben Hur  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:55am

One of us...One of us....One of us....

85 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:12:59am

re: #43 Claire

Bill Ayers probably thought this one up.

Bernadine helped.

86 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:13:06am

re: #72 ladycatnip

Next the One will do away with term limits, then get himself elected for life.

Well NYC has already turned into Bloomberg Inc.---And who says money can't buy love?

87 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:13:15am

Yesterday I saw a woman wearing a black "Barack The Vote" t-shirt. Her little boy (five, maybe?) wore one, too.

88 notutopia  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:13:18am

Is this what kind of teaching is supported in his actual household?
Those poor daughters of his.

89 imtoast  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:13:20am

OT: Sort of. I was on the PUMA site and found this post:


OMG OMG***Listen up PUMAs this is important.

I have a friend who is part of Bozo’s ground troops. We decided early on NEVER to discuss politics in order to keep our friendship (which was almost lost).

I met with her last night. She and about a dozen or so others of their group had a “secret” meeting. For those that attended there were many too afraid to go. She said that they didn’t sign up for a socialist government. She also said that it finally dawned on all of them that the so called change will only be applied to AAs.

She told me that when she recently heard MO say that Obozo will change the lives of “our” children and “our” community it was suddenly crystal clear that she meant the black children and black community only.

She now realizes that Bozo will push for socialism in order to take money away from her and distribute it to those that don’t deserve it. She had read MO’s thesis some time ago and all the puzzle pieces are falling in place. I had told her that MO doesn’t believe in intergration. That it is obvious that she wants blacks and whites to be separate with blacks being superior.

She told me they all discussed this. She is too afraid to come out and say anything to anyone, but she and many many others will vote McCain.

I was so happy to hear this and at the same time stunned. This girl was a full fledged kool-aid drinking Obot. This news about Obama’s socialist agenda is taking him down. This is just one girl that I know. I wonder how many more there are across the country who are finally seeing the big picture.

I hope this made your day because I am on cloud nine right now!

OH….just in case you are wondering, their group and people at that meeting consisted of black and white people.

90 musicman  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:14:26am

re: #61 ClosetConservative

Good news, folks:

That bombshell redistribution audio that came out yesterday is #1 in views on Youtube right now. Perhaps that'll sway things somewhat.

I e-mailed that to a whole bunch of people this morning.

91 LGoPs  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:14:37am

My parents escaped from a communist country. The tactic there was to use children to report on their parent's activities - developing little spies right inside the home. Truly despicable.

92 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:14:38am

re: #75 realwest

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Those are the top videos in views for today.

93 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:14:40am

re: #69 Boolz

"Mr. Obama, daddy's been hoarding wheat in the barn again"

"And, she's hidden her gun again!"

94 jorline  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:14:43am

They had a piece on the local news Sunday about a rally by the beach where volunteers were face painting the Obama logo on kids

*spit*

95 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:15:01am

re: #78 samhein

Perhaps I should clarify my #28 comment.

By asking if it was legal, from what I read, Obama is asking children to get their adult(s) to vote for them by using the adult's vote. Shouldn't someone in the election process be questioning this? Anyone? Seriously. If any other politician did this, they would be accused of exploiting children!

Actually, I think it's just a spin of the typical political rhetoric - a vote for me is the vote for the children - which invariably means that the actual policy is dubious to begin with, but if I say it's for the children, it has a shot of passage.

96 notutopia  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:15:16am

re: #66 Ben Hur

Which ones in particular and how is the advertising being presented?

97 Pyrocles  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:15:19am

I had an Anthropology/American Studies professor in college who believed that young children should have full adult status in the U.S.. He believed that children as young as six years old should be able to vote, work, engage in lawsuits, drive, etc. His reasoning, I guess, was that children were "peaceful" and innocent, therefore possessing superior judgment than adults.

98 abolitionist  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:15:40am

Looks like someone has taken the Little Red Book to heart, and I don't necessarily mean Prairie Fire.

One of the worst aspects of Mao's Chinese Cultural Revolution was children reporting on their brothers, sisters, parents, teachers, neighbors and local officials about any signs of counter-revolutionary tendencies.

99 Daisy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:16:07am

re: #89 imtoast

Yes. We can :)! Great news.

100 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:16:18am

re: #70 Opinionated

Once the radical Left takes power it doesn't easily relinquish.

These kids, in 5 years, at or near voting age, will be pushing to repeal the Twenty-second Amendment

Let 'em. I'll be thoroughly unemployed by then and a career as a bootlegger could be mighty profitable. Hey, it worked for Al Capone (for a while anyway...)

/21st amendment? Oh... Well same difference...

101 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:16:30am

re: #88 notutopia

Is this what kind of teaching is supported in his actual household?
Those poor daughters of his.

yeah, but I am sure his daughters are gonna go to public school in DC. Or as the Politician there call public school--"Sidwell Freinds"
[Link: www.sidwell.edu...]
Public School for the Elite?

102 rightwinger3  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:16:32am

re: #89 imtoast

Obozo

LOL! That sh*t is funny.

103 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:14am
104 realwest  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:16am

Ah well, new comments button isn't work (still).

105 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:22am

re: #95 lawhawk

Actually, I think it's just a spin of the typical political rhetoric - a vote for me is the vote for the children - which invariably means that the actual policy is dubious to begin with, but if I say it's for the children, it has a shot of passage.

It's for the chiiiiiiiiiiillllllllllllllldrrrrrreeeeeeennnnnnnn nn.

106 doppelganglander  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:28am

re: #89 imtoast

I've been thinking this for months. Mr. Post-Racial is the biggest racist of all. The bitter clingers are not fooled. I'm just amazed a die-hard Obot figured it out before it's too late.

107 iceman1960  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:32am

Robbing the cradle? Is there anyone Obama won't rob?

108 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:33am
109 Walahi  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:45am

Have you guys seen The Great Schlep?

From the website:

The Great Schlep aims to have Jewish grandchildren visit their grandparents in Florida, educate them about Obama, and therefore swing the crucial Florida vote in his favor. Don’t have grandparents in Florida? Not Jewish? No problem! You can still become a schlepper and make change happen in 2008, simply by talking to your relatives about Obama.

Geez...

110 Boolz  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:17:51am

Turn in your folks, AND WIN A FREE WII!

111 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:18:00am

re: #97 Pyrocles

I had an Anthropology/American Studies professor in college who believed that young children should have full adult status in the U.S.. He believed that children as young as six years old should be able to vote, work, engage in lawsuits, drive, etc. His reasoning, I guess, was that children were "peaceful" and innocent, therefore possessing superior judgment than adults.

Member of NAMBLA?

112 nonic  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:18:07am

When I was a kid, HOWDY DOODY ran for president. And kids could vote for him. My parents even took me to Washington, D.C., that year so I could see where HOWDY would be working.

Now, in case you don't know, back in the day (about 1950) Howdy Doody was a puppet (a marionette, actually, I think) with his own TV show with host Buffalo Bob and Clara (something) the Clown. And Princess Spring-Summer-Winter-Fall, IIRC, an American Indian (which, of course, would be racist nowadays).

So, you see, actually Kids for Obama is NOT unique nor a first-time-ever. No, no, no. In fact, I'll bet that they got the idea because ol' Joe Biden remembers voting for HOWDY DOODY, and he wanted to relive tha thrill again. :-)

113 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:18:58am

re: #53 realwest

Good morning Charles - For the first time, I'm really starting to get scared of Obama. Fortunately I don't believe he's gonna get elected.
But this is a scary dude - much scarier than Billy Boy Ayers who is, if nothing else, not as smooth and waaay too open about calling for the demise of America!

I pray you're right. I'm going to work on it today if I can show some people at work some the stuff that was posted here yesterday.

114 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:14am

re: #103 taxfreekiller

He is not a socialist, he is full bore commie.

Obamarx.

115 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:18am

re: #111 MandyManners

Member of NAMBLA?

Most of the nitwits who want to outlaw childhood for children are...

116 bosforus  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:29am

The reality of an Obama presidency is going to blow the minds of the ignorant "change" voters who are going to vote for him. They'll remember it as one of the worst decision of their lives. It'll be a source of shame for the rest of their lives. They will feel the real guilt of their decision as opposed to the fake guilt of the Bush presidency.

117 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:39am
118 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:40am
119 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:41am

re: #80 Ringo the Gringo

The indotrination has only just begun.

If we could only be so lucky.

120 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:46am

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

Obamarx.

The evil Marx Brother...

121 mattm  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:51am

When you think you have seen it all a moonbat will make you think twice.

122 guzziguy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:54am

re: #112 nonic

.

Now, in case you don't know, back in the day (about 1950) Howdy Doody was a puppet (a marionette, actually, I think) with his own TV show with host Buffalo Bob and Clara (something) the Clown. A

Clarabell. How in the name of Mr. Greenjeans could you forget that?

123 Pyrocles  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:19:57am

Hmm... It did cross my mind...heh.

re: #111 MandyManners

Member of NAMBLA?

124 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:09am

re: #101 Nevergiveup

yeah, but I am sure his daughters are gonna go to public school in DC. Or as the Politician there call public school--"Sidwell Freinds"
[Link: www.sidwell.edu...]
Public School for the Elite?

Lower School $28,442
Middle and Upper Schools $29,442

125 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:10am

re: #89 imtoast

WOW!

126 puckish and beguiling  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:17am

Every time I hear something new I think Obama can't do or say anything worse...then something else comes up.
This is truly scary Hitler Youth/ Young Pioneers/ Spies (1984).

127 realwest  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:36am

re: #89 imtoast Um, it's an interesting and hopeful story but was your female friend white or black and did she say anything about the reaction of the Black folks in attendance?

128 Macker  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:36am

God, this pisses me off. In this case, children are to be seen and not heard.

129 jaunte  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:42am

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

"Commander-in-Thief"

130 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:48am

re: #103 taxfreekiller

He is not a socialist, he is full bore commie.

BINGO!

131 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:20:59am

re: #116 bosforus

The reality of an Obama presidency is going to blow the minds of the ignorant "change" voters who are going to vote for him. They'll remember it as one of the worst decision of their lives. It'll be a source of shame for the rest of their lives. They will feel the real guilt of their decision as opposed to the fake guilt of the Bush presidency.

They should talk to us older guys and gals who mistakenly voted for Car.. ca...- well I can't bring myself to say it, but you get the point.

132 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:00am

This advertising to children is only fair. How will Obama guarantee his legacy if he can't control the children? However, in order to keep their support he will have to define some very hard-headed policies.

1. Subsidized Recess

Recess will be subsidized by the federal government. A prodigious supply of Nilla Wafers and graham crackers must be made available upon penalty of fine to the school.

2. Socialized Lunch Money

Spread that wealth around, dude! All lunch money will be subject to redistribution in accordance to students' needs as determined by the federal government.

3. Unlimited Potty Breaks

Everyone knows that the students of today are horribly oppressed by the 'one-bathroom-break-per-class' limit. THis is unacceptable, and must be changed. Just as their parents will be able to skip work and face no consequences, the right of each student to spend the whole day in the bathroom and face no consequences must be protected by the federal government.

Viva la multiplication tables!

133 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:04am

re: #89 imtoast

OT: Sort of. I was on the PUMA site and found this post:


OMG OMG***Listen up PUMAs this is important.

I have a friend who is part of Bozo’s ground troops. We decided early on NEVER to discuss politics in order to keep our friendship (which was almost lost).

I met with her last night. She and about a dozen or so others of their group had a “secret” meeting. For those that attended there were many too afraid to go. She said that they didn’t sign up for a socialist government. She also said that it finally dawned on all of them that the so called change will only be applied to AAs.

She told me that when she recently heard MO say that Obozo will change the lives of “our” children and “our” community it was suddenly crystal clear that she meant the black children and black community only.

She now realizes that Bozo will push for socialism in order to take money away from her and distribute it to those that don’t deserve it. She had read MO’s thesis some time ago and all the puzzle pieces are falling in place. I had told her that MO doesn’t believe in intergration. That it is obvious that she wants blacks and whites to be separate with blacks being superior.

She told me they all discussed this. She is too afraid to come out and say anything to anyone, but she and many many others will vote McCain.

I was so happy to hear this and at the same time stunned. This girl was a full fledged kool-aid drinking Obot. This news about Obama’s socialist agenda is taking him down. This is just one girl that I know. I wonder how many more there are across the country who are finally seeing the big picture.

I hope this made your day because I am on cloud nine right now!

OH….just in case you are wondering, their group and people at that meeting consisted of black and white people.

May there be any more like her this week. And may they be the tide in which Barack Hussein Obama drowns.

134 Daisy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:07am

re: #109 Walahi

I cannot bear to even listen for a moment to Sarah Silverman's make-believe baby voice.

135 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:32am
Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama.

Dear Mr. Obama:

I've put up with your vapid door-to-door salesfolk. I've endured the miraculous disappearance of my McCain yard signs. I've suffered the interruptions of my meals with your robocalls, and the slaughter of forests for your rampant pamphleteering. I've suffered in silence the nattering of your witless adherents everywhere from the subway to the lobbies and bathrooms of my own offices. But when you start encouraging the children of your own opponents to turn on them and report them to the voting authorities you have crossed the line. In an election in which you yourself magnanimously declared your own children off limits, you dare direct my own to compel me to vote for you? Is there no ethical line you will not cross at the direction of your monstrous ego? Kindly fuck off such that we may have a President who actually likes the country he leads and doesn't plan to drag the entire nation through his own version of Atlas Shrugged.

Sincerely,
DB

136 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:40am

re: #107 iceman1960

Robbing the cradle? Is there anyone Obama won't rob?

Apparently he wants to spread the most precious wealth: our children.

137 SurferDoc  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:46am

re: #61 ClosetConservative

Good news, folks:

That bombshell redistribution audio that came out yesterday is #1 in views on Youtube right now. Perhaps that'll sway things somewhat.

That is good news indeed. Youtube is the new TV.

138 Macker  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:50am

re: #130 MandyManners

I prefer the term Dirty F**kin' ommunist myself.

139 cartoonboy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:50am

"Dewey Defeats Truman".

This might resonate on November 4.

140 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:56am

Going after the Children was a socialist/communist tactic (most recently advocated by Ayers and The Weathermen) wasn't it?

OT: Pigs Fly Over A Changing Sea?

141 cblesz  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:21:59am

re: #116 bosforus

The reality of an Obama presidency is going to blow the minds of the ignorant "change" voters who are going to vote for him. They'll remember it as one of the worst decision of their lives. It'll be a source of shame for the rest of their lives. They will feel the real guilt of their decision as opposed to the fake guilt of the Bush presidency.

Oh, they are about to make the biggest mistake of their lives. Problem is, this is what a majority of them want. Some who are the "ignorant change" voters may not like the results, but don't fool yourself. The left knows exactly what they are getting and they love it.

142 doppelganglander  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:22:11am

re: #112 nonic

You might as well vote for Howdy Doody as Obama. They're both puppets with a great appeal to the childlike and immature.

143 Throbert McGee  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:22:12am

Holy crap, is that a fuckin' UNICORN just to the left of the American flag?

144 bosforus  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:22:20am

re: #126 puckish and beguiling

Every time I hear something new I think Obama can't do or say anything worse...then something else comes up.
This is truly scary Hitler Youth/ Young Pioneers/ Spies (1984).

Change your mentality from "[crazy idea] could never happen" to "[crazy idea] is his next idea and was planned some time ago".

145 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:22:20am

re: #111 MandyManners

Member of NAMBLA?

*rimshot*

146 OldLineTexan  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:22:33am

So my plans to market Obamaroos are right out, I suppose.

147 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:22:48am

re: #115 CIA Reject

Most of the nitwits who want to outlaw childhood for children are...

Sick shits.

148 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:23:36am

re: #123 Pyrocles

Hmm... It did cross my mind...heh.

It's a logical conclusion.

149 Walahi  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:23:37am

re: #134 Daisy

True...she is annoying...But the idea that kids should go to grandparents and 'educate' them on Obama. It's a little too Culture Revolution (a la China) for me.

150 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:23:45am

Breaking news:
Intense research has determined there is a code word for "black".
Courtesy of Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Breakfast of Champions aka Goodbye Blue Monday
Don't call Obama a reindeer.

151 Junior  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:23:49am

This all makes so much sense. Obama is running nothing more than a middle-school class-prez race anyway. Every time he gives a speech or I see one of his commercials I always think "And, I'll make sure you get pizza every day for lunch, no homework, and longer recess.".

Remember those middle-school class-prez elections? It's the same thing - and he's running for president.

The entire thing is juvenile.

152 neocon hippie  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:23:55am

re: #89 imtoast

Wow! That just knocked my socks off.

Which PUMA site did this come from?

153 notutopia  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:24:09am

re: #89 imtoast
This is encouraging news. Perhaps the issues that have kept the Rep.parties outliers split from supporting it, will realize finally that the risk of having O in office may be UNREPAIRABLE to their future life!
I would hope so, it's all colours that are going to have their children indoctrinated into Obama's reprogramming school system.

154 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:24:29am

re: #140 WrathofG-d

Going after the Children was a socialist/communist tactic (most recently advocated by Ayers and The Weathermen) wasn't it?

OT: Pigs Fly Over A Changing Sea?

Yes, the whole "Kill your parents" thing.

155 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:24:33am

re: #138 Macker

I prefer the term Dirty F**kin' ommunist myself.

I like to use the term "Damn Red" to describe BHO.

156 opnion  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:24:54am

Kind of reminds you of the youth Groups in Marxist nations.
Not, that I am accusing Barack Steve Obama of being a Marxist, cause you know that would be racist.
If the Dems nominated Karl Marx, they would call it a smear to call him a Marxist.

157 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:00am
158 yesandno  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:04am

Again:

[Link: www.pentdego.com...]

159 bosforus  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:16am

re: #146 OldLineTexan

So my plans to market Obamaroos are right out, I suppose.

I think some "Don't blame me I voted for Archuleta" bumper stickers would sell pretty well here in Utah.

160 FloridaAnole  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:18am

re: #112 nonic

And it was Princess Summerfall Winterspring. And don't forget Mr. Bluster!

161 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:20am

re: #143 Throbert McGee

That's what I was thinking. It kinda sets the tone for his whole campaign, eh?

162 cblesz  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:26am

Anyone got any color on Rush today?

163 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:39am

re: #132 ClosetConservative

1. Subsidized Recess

Recess will be subsidized by the federal government. A prodigious supply of Nilla Wafers and graham crackers must be made available upon penalty of fine to the school.

The Kid might get momentarily wobbly for that one.

164 the other Amy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:52am

About that YouTube video of Obama and the redistribution......
the counter on it, number of views, hasn't changed for about two hours, it seems to be stuck on 442,968. Is there any explanation for this?

165 formercorpsman  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:53am

Charles, absolutely spot on comments you referenced by Dr. Slogan.

166 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:25:55am

Is Kos one of the Kids for Obama?

167 abolitionist  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:26:02am

re: #112 nonic

Captain Kangaroo - Bob Keeshan was the original Clarabell the Clown on The Howdy Doody Show when it aired on NBC.

168 CIA Reject  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:26:03am

re: #147 MandyManners

Sick shits.

Evil actually...

169 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:26:27am
170 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:26:34am

re: #135 Diamond Bullet

Dear Mr. Obama:

I've put up with your vapid door-to-door salesfolk. I've endured the miraculous disappearance of my McCain yard signs. I've suffered the interruptions of my meals with your robocalls, and the slaughter of forests for your rampant pamphleteering. I've suffered in silence the nattering of your witless adherents everywhere from the subway to the lobbies and bathrooms of my own offices. But when you start encouraging the children of your own opponents to turn on them and report them to the voting authorities you have crossed the line. In an election in which you yourself magnanimously declared your own children off limits, you dare direct my own to compel me to vote for you? Is there no ethical line you will not cross at the direction of your monstrous ego? Kindly fuck off such that we may have a President who actually likes the country he leads and doesn't plan to drag the entire nation through his own version of Atlas Shrugged.

Sincerely,
DB

A gamillion UPDINGS!

171 cartoonboy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:03am

Pop quiz kids:

What european gentleman perfected the "big lie" technique during WW2?

Compare and contrast ObamunisMSM's tactics with that WW2 gent.

172 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:04am

re: #138 Macker

I prefer the term Dirty F**kin' ommunist myself.

That works.

173 Junior  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:14am

Rush on fire this morning

174 Daisy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:38am

re: #149 Walahi

True...she is annoying...But the idea that kids should go to grandparents and 'educate' them on Obama. It's a little too Culture Revolution (a la China) for me.

I'm right there w/you. The fact that she's not a kid .. but pretends to be a kid .. telling other make believe (and possibly actual kids too) to re-educate their grandparents is a particular brand of disgusting. Mainly, her vulgarian hate message delivered in this itsy bitsy voice just gives me big creeps.

175 Macker  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:41am

re: #167 abolitionist

Why was the Captain never kicked upstairs?

176 notutopia  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:48am

re: #112 nonic

Howdy Doody was not OBAMA. Not even a BIDEN.

177 tastes like chicken  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:49am

Didn't Yasser Arafat say something along the lines of "Bring the children to me?

0bama creeps me out more and more...

178 Throbert McGee  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:50am

re: #140 WrathofG-d

Going after the Children was a socialist/communist tactic (most recently advocated by Ayers and The Weathermen) wasn't it?

Pavlik Morozov

179 jetprop  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:27:57am

OT: Rush is dropping the hammer on 0bamamarx's interview.
/yessss

180 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:28:11am

re: #145 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*rimshot*

Bookmarked.

181 Ben Hur  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:28:12am

re: #96 notutopia

Which ones in particular and how is the advertising being presented?


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

182 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:28:15am
183 LGoPs  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:28:27am

I really get pissed off when any politician uses "the Children" to further their agenda. This is truly the last refuge of scoundrels........

184 realwest  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:28:29am

re: #92 ClosetConservative
Thank you!
re: #97 Pyrocles

His reasoning, I guess, was that children were "peaceful" and innocent, therefore possessing superior judgment than adults.


Well first of all peaceful and innocent don't = superior judgment and if he though children were more honest, he's obviously never spent any time at all around children ("Mary, did you eat that cookie I told you not to eat" Mom. Mary ("No I dnoihenlg,gulp,cough, didn't")!

185 cartoonboy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:28:46am

Ohh, the price of arugula these days - the humanity.

186 realwest  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:29:25am

Is the new comments box whited out or not functioning for anyone else?

187 MandyManners  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:29:41am

re: #168 CIA Reject

Evil actually...

To the core.

188 Teacake!  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:29:59am

Hey, if the left sees nothing wrong with adults using children as shields and martyrs for allah, or palestinian tv shows geared to children, why would they see this as a creepy thing to do?

Hey little girl/boy, want some candy? Wanna help me find my puppy?

This really is as creepy as physical child molestation. This is an exploitation of innocence.

189 Dave the.....  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:30:19am

Politicizing everything is SOP for liberal pressure groups. For example, I would never think of prothesizing at work, yet we have an environmental group here, a gay rights group, a very liberal African-American organization.

And then there is the guy who goes from desk to desk all day long trying to get people to vote for Obama.....he won't stop at my desk anymore. Damn.

If you go to the Sierra Club web site, they talk about how to push their agenda in all venues...school, work, social clubs, etc.

190 StinkHammer  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:30:20am

Obama re: #68 ClosetConservative

MORE good news:

The number 10 video on youtube is the audio of Obama saying that the Constitution is majorly flawed.

2001 radio interview audio in which Obama asserts his Socialistic "economic justice" beliefs is making the rounds on Colorado radio programs.

191 guzziguy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:30:25am

re: #186 realwest

Is the new comments box whited out or not functioning for anyone else?

It has been working fine for me all day. Not that I expect that you've not done this, but, restart?

192 notutopia  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:30:45am

re: #164 the other Amy

Amy, there are so many other sites that picked it up and imported it, that it hasn't been hit in a while?

193 student of history  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:30:55am

There's an excellent article on this subject at American Spectator this morning, quotes children's books about Obama, e.g. --

[O]n the horizon, at the dawn of a new age, there appeared a man who would be the embodiment of King's dream -- a presidential candidate whose very being was a bridge that joined nations.

Does an great job analyzing the Obama myth in terms of Campbell's classic "hero's journey" paradigm.

The Department of Early Indoctrination

194 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:30:56am

re: #154 Ward Cleaver

I wonder how the Noe-Coms (Neo Communists) feel about the whole "Don't trust anyone over 30" statement now!

All joking aside, if you look at Communism, and the manifesto of The Weathermen, I honest believe that it advocates the re-education of children to benefit the future.

Most of the enemies of the Western world are patient, unlike the present Western world itself, and are fighting for the future, not the present. As far as communism, and Islamism are concerend, the present day ruled by Capitalism and Westernism is lost, and thus they look towards the future. It is my humble opinion that Obama, and others that think like him are not looking to prosper for the next 8 or so years of an Obama presidency but instead to light a revolution of ideas, action, thought and results. They wish not only to change the present, but instead to change the entire way the U.S. does business. What better way to do this then to "invest" in those that will rule the Country in the future and vote in 8 years?

This is an aiming at the post-Obama Presidency!

195 cartoonboy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:31:56am

Nickleodeon ad:

Obama: "hey kids, why don't you come over to my website and check out my big tax increase. I promise you lots of sweets."

196 Daisy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:32:20am

re: #186 realwest

Is the new comments box whited out or not functioning for anyone else?

Nah. But things have been as slow as molasses for me on LGF now that I can't use Safari (I use Firefox). It's changed my posting habits, but not my reading habits. Best of luck. Glad Charles is a tech-genius.

197 StinkHammer  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:32:41am

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

I like to use the term "Damn Red" to describe BHO.

C'mon -- "red" is code language for "black," dont'cha know?

198 OldLineTexan  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:32:57am

And if Mom, Dad, Nana, and Grandpop didn't vote for Obama, you can turn them in!

199 ClosetConservative  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:33:20am

re: #179 jetprop

Aghh, where can I find Rush? Is he on AM or FM?

200 OldLineTexan  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:33:25am

re: #197 StinkHammer

C'mon -- "red" is code language for "black," dont'cha know?

It would be hell trying to play checkers with you...

201 LGoPs  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:34:31am

re: #194 WrathofG-d

I wonder how the Noe-Coms (Neo Communists) feel about the whole "Don't trust anyone over 30" statement now!

All joking aside, if you look at Communism, and the manifesto of The Weathermen, I honest believe that it advocates the re-education of children to benefit the future.

Most of the enemies of the Western world are patient, unlike the present Western world itself, and are fighting for the future, not the present. As far as communism, and Islamism are concerend, the present day ruled by Capitalism and Westernism is lost, and thus they look towards the future. It is my humble opinion that Obama, and others that think like him are not looking to prosper for the next 8 or so years of an Obama presidency but instead to light a revolution of ideas, action, thought and results. They wish not only to change the present, but instead to change the entire way the U.S. does business. What better way to do this then to "invest" in those that will rule the Country in the future and vote in 8 years?

This is an aiming at the post-Obama Presidency!

That's classic communist standard operating procedure. You capture the future by indoctrinating the children. They've already captured the present by dominating the media and the culture. This just seals the deal in perpetuity.......

202 Carolyn  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:34:40am


Give me a child of seven and I'll give you the man

Give me the children until they are seven and anyone may have them afterwards. - Francis Xavier

203 bp sf  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:34:51am

'Scuse me if this has been posted.

'60s leftist William Ayers: Time for GOP to get over it
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

F U NY Daily News

204 rightside  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:34:57am

re: #180 MandyManners

Everytime I push that button, I can hear Joe Biden asking that wheelchair bound guy to stand up! "Stand up, Chuck... oh jeez, what am I talking about"

205 Daisy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:35:26am

re: #194 WrathofG-d

Neo-Coms. Now that's excellent. As I think were the rest of your points.

206 formercorpsman  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:36:37am

re: #204 rightside

You know, it was a beautiful moment.

I can't help but laught when you hear the tone of his voice change.

207 guzziguy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:36:39am

re: #204 rightside

Everytime I push that button, I can hear Joe Biden asking that wheelchair bound guy to stand up! "Stand up, Chuck... oh jeez, what am I talking about"

Obviously Chuck hadn't had a personal encounter with "the one" as yet.

208 jetprop  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:37:05am

re: #199 ClosetConservative

Aghh, where can I find Rush? Is he on AM or FM?

AM..listen here..live streaming...

WOKV.com

209 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:37:31am
210 rightside  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:37:56am

re: #207 guzziguy

Ahhh, John Kerry being elected would make the guy walk, now we need to elect the One in order for that to happen!

/EGO, anyone?

211 StinkHammer  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:38:17am

re: #200 OldLineTexan

It would be hell trying to play checkers with you...

Checkers is nothing more than a symbolic manifestation of the imperialistic oppressors' stranglehold on the working class, you rotten, stink-infested, Capitalist running dog!

212 Dave the.....  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:38:34am
Going after the Children was a socialist/communist tactic (most recently advocated by Ayers and The Weathermen) wasn't it?

Part of destroying your enemy from within:

Ayers talked about the "long march through the institutions". You get control of the schools, media (news and entertainment), even churches. Then you influence the young'uns who are in these locals.

213 OldLineTexan  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:38:43am

re: #210 rightside

/EGO, anyone?

You meanie. Let him eat his waffle!

/

214 gop_patriot  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:39:20am

re: #73 Ward Cleaver

My eight-year-old is disgusted with the pro-Obama brainwashing attempts on the cable channel Nickelodeon.

So is my 11 year old. She covers her little brothers ears. LOL

215 the other Amy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:39:45am

re: #192
So, if you watch it from LGF it does not add to the counter?
I also know that there are other versions of it on you tube....
but I still think it is fishy.
Ah.....checked it again.....now magically up to 734, 568

216 guzziguy  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:39:51am

Headed upstairs to see if anyone's gotten a response from the Left Angeles Slimes

217 Guy_Philly  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:40:02am

Almost on topic:

Is there a video of Obama taking the oath of office when he was elected Senator? If so, did he say, "I Barack Hussein Obama ..." If so, I would live to see that in a McCain commercial: "Is this what you want to see on January 20th 2009?"

218 rightside  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:41:00am

re: #209 buzzsawmonkey

creepy!

219 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:41:33am

I don't need a Weatherman to know which way the b.o. blows.

220 JustAGal  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:41:48am

There's a reason the word child / children is mentioned like 1822 times in the Bible. Keep your freaking hands off 'em

221 akak  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:41:49am

Politics for $100 Alex

Mourad, Spencer Abraham, Hezbollah connections & passing nucular secrets to listed terror states.

Who is on McCains campaign staff?

222 Diane  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:42:08am
Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or “an expression of Democracy”

This sickening, abuse of children innocence.
Dragging them into social revolution, pretending it has something to do with democracy.

(I am raising a 12 year old, I am an artist in contemporary arts and I ran a daycare for 5 years, I could never imagine dictating a child on what to draw or what to express.)

223 abolitionist  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:42:46am

re: #175 Macker

Why was the Captain never kicked upstairs?

If there's a heaven, Bob Keeshan would be there.

224 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:43:20am

Forward Young Pioneers! Smash the enemies of the people!

225 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:45:48am

re: #201 LGoPs

If you read the Prairie Wind (or Zombie's outtakes from it) you will notice that the fact that the MSM has already been captured is actually a result of the Neo-Coms laying the groundwork since the 1960s. A majority of the revolutionary Communist Weather Underground became teachers, and community organizers with an emphasis on children (the Obama/Ayers connection was through an organization for children), after the Weathermen "disbanded". At this point they began to educated (nay, "re-educate") the children, and college students. These children and college students are the MSM that we see today.

Its not a coincidence!

226 imtoast  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:46:38am

re: #127 realwest

Um, it's an interesting and hopeful story but was your female friend white or black and did she say anything about the reaction of the Black folks in attendance?

It wasn't my post, I stole it from PUMA. However, the woman who posted it said that the blacks and whites were terrified. That two of the men (who are black) were about to become welders and were afraid that Bambi would take and distribute their money for them. Apparently the friend that emailed this information is white. At least that is what I gathered from her friend's posts.

227 soccerdad  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:47:38am

Wonder if that subliminal messaging will now be all the rage too?

Palin Alert Charles - new thread needed:Halloween "Prank" has Palin hanging from a noose

Prank my ass....imagine if it were Barry hanging from that noose. The outcry would be deafening. But skewer a Conservative or Catholic and the MSM just puts up......crickets.

228 LGoPs  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:47:46am

re: #225 WrathofG-d

If you read the Prairie Wind (or Zombie's outtakes from it) you will notice that the fact that the MSM has already been captured is actually a result of the Neo-Coms laying the groundwork since the 1960s. A majority of the revolutionary Communist Weather Underground became teachers, and community organizers with an emphasis on children (the Obama/Ayers connection was through an organization for children), after the Weathermen "disbanded". At this point they began to educated (nay, "re-educate") the children, and college students. These children and college students are the MSM that we see today.

Its not a coincidence!

Dead on target. They've been waging a low-intensity war on us since the 60's and we haven't even known it.....some of us have, of course but not enough to make a difference unfortunately.....

229 ArmyWife  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:48:23am

Does this sound familiar? Replace Stalin with Obama and what do you get? The Obama website.

230 soccerdad  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:49:27am

re: #225 WrathofG-d

If you read the Prairie Wind (or Zombie's outtakes from it) you will notice that the fact that the MSM has already been captured is actually a result of the Neo-Coms laying the groundwork since the 1960s. A majority of the revolutionary Communist Weather Underground became teachers, and community organizers with an emphasis on children (the Obama/Ayers connection was through an organization for children), after the Weathermen "disbanded". At this point they began to educated (nay, "re-educate") the children, and college students. These children and college students are the MSM that we see today.

Its not a coincidence!


exactly...that is what scares me. They are among us and 'mainstream'.

Me thinks, though, that they played their hand a bit early without making sure all the trump was out.

BHO is NOT going to win this election.

231 imtoast  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:53:16am

re: #152 neocon hippie

232 El Lizardo mejicano  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:53:56am

He is already thinking about changing the Constitution so he can be president forever, just like Chavez, Castro etc.

If you endoctrinate/brainwash the young, you will create a new generation that will do ANYTHING you ask them to..

Scary stuff, but it is at our door step..

233 fish  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:54:07am

re: #64 Lumpy

Maybe Election Night Will Be Interesting

Yes election night will be interesting. But remeber it is a Chinese CURSE:"May you live in interesting times."

I have no doubt it will be interesting, of course 9/11 was and the Rodney King trials were Interesting also...

234 nikis-knight  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:55:13am

re: #80 Ringo the Gringo

This has been up at the Obama website for many months now. I posted a link back in August.

It's scary stuff. Keep an eye on the public schools. Should Obama become President, I expect his speeches will become part of school curriculum. And teachers who never would have considered putting up a picture of any previous President will suddenly have pictures of Obama in every classroom.

The indotrination has only just begun.

They already are. In my wife's mommy discussion board there was a thread on a literature textbook from some state, I think it was elementary school, that had Barak Obama's 2004 speech as a reading selection. There was, of course, nothing about John McCain, although to be fair it wasn't specifically election focused (probably printed before the election was official). I'm fairly certain there was nothing remotely conservative for balance, of course.

235 ArmyWife  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:55:40am

My "suggestion for the campaign":

I will grant you, this is a "different" campaign. Just when I think Obama/Biden have reached absolute bottom, I am stunned to learn there are depths yet undiscovered. You are targeting children now? Who does this? A lot of names come to mind. As but one example, I offer this:
[Link: studenteducationforum.ipbhost.com...]

The glaring similarities between what is listed at that link and Obama's current campaign are staggering. Hope and change? You betcha. I suggest this campaign start to be more honest about what that actually means.

Shall I wait for rifling into my background and smear campaign?

236 ArmyWife  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:56:46am

re: #225 WrathofG-d

Its Prairie Fire, though Prairie Wind is a bit more apropos.

237 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:57:09am

re: #228 LGoPs

re: #230 soccerdad

What I noticed most about the philosophy of the Weather Underground, and similar organizations of that time, is that what was once "extreme Leftist revolutionary, Anti-U.S." statements are now actually the platform of the Democrat Party. It sounds crazy to say, I understand this, but the facts bare it out. The actual arguments made by The Weather Underground in Prairie Wind are seen daily on the street at "Anti-Iraq War" rallies, and in the mouths of Democrat politicians ("no war for oil", "Boycott Israel", "human need, not corporate greed", etc.) These are actual quotes from the Weather Underground manifesto which are being stated by Democrat party politicians today.

As for weather or not they have overplayed their hand by starting too early, I disagree. Even if they lose this election, those with Marxist, Anti-American, Revolutionary designs are still going to be teaching in our schools, instructing our college students, and running our children organizations. With Obama they will have succeeded in getting ideas like "redistribution of wealth" and "the death of capitalism" into the mainstream, so that in 4 or 20 years from now, these concepts will no longer be seen as "far left" but instead even more mainstream then they are today.

I hope your experience is different, but everyone I speak to blindly and happily states that they believe in these basic Socialist ideals of "wealth redistribution" well the majority of them at least (those that are Democrat)

238 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 9:57:46am

re: #236 ArmyWife

Of right! Oops. Thank you for correcting me.

239 Throbert McGee  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:03:39am

On a related topic: has this MoveOn.org ad targeting teenagers under 18 been discussed on LGF?

240 imtoast  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:04:28am

re: #231 imtoast

OOPS!

The link for PUMA is [Link: pumapac.org...] the thread is: You Need Some Penis

241 WrathofG-d  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:05:55am

re: #239 Throbert McGee

Interesting.

Comparing John McCain negatively to drug use, drinking and driving, and sex, by actors who act on a show that advocates drug use, drinking and sex?

Friends don't let friends vote John McCain.

242 Gray Skies  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:15:49am

re: #7 CIA Reject

Well, my better angels are telling me this man is very bad news for our country.

243 tigger2005  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:16:59am

re: #232 El Lizardo mejicano

He is already thinking about changing the Constitution so he can be president forever, just like Chavez, Castro etc.

If you endoctrinate/brainwash the young, you will create a new generation that will do ANYTHING you ask them to..

Scary stuff, but it is at our door step..

Well, the Iranian students refute that theory a bit. They've been brainwashing kids in Iran since the revolution yet the students still resist. Remember, the children of the 50's were raised during the conformist Eisenhower years yet completely rejected everything they'd been taught by parents, teachers, the media, and authority figures.

244 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:22:00am

Thanks to the likes of ACORN, he's not just grooming future voters, he's probably getting additional votes next Tuesday this way.

245 fish  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:25:08am

re: #112 nonic

When I was a kid, HOWDY DOODY ran for president. And kids could vote for him. My parents even took me to Washington, D.C., that year so I could see where HOWDY would be working.

Now, in case you don't know, back in the day (about 1950) Howdy Doody was a puppet (a marionette, actually, I think) with his own TV show with host Buffalo Bob and Clara (something) the Clown. And Princess Spring-Summer-Winter-Fall, IIRC, an American Indian (which, of course, would be racist nowadays).

So, you see, actually Kids for Obama is NOT unique nor a first-time-ever. No, no, no. In fact, I'll bet that they got the idea because ol' Joe Biden remembers voting for HOWDY DOODY, and he wanted to relive tha thrill again. :-)

I remember in 1984 kids were asked to vote whether or not the Rabbit should get some Trix. If memory serves he one and got a bowl which he ate instantly.

246 Purre  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:30:48am

Last night we had elections here in Finland where we elected local governments (towns, counties). To put it short: National Coalition Party won and became largest party in Finland. Not only that, but it has now largest representation in 6 largest cities and towns in Finland. Generally there was a good shift to the right as left lost votes and right gained. One exception here was Green Party, which also gained some votes. So this is what the reaction is here to the worsening economic situation (Finland itself has still managed to steer clear from economic troubles, but many counties have had problems for long time).

On thetopic of the thread itself, I find the Obama's tactics very troublesome. It reminds me very strongly of both national and international socialists (Nazis and Communists). In general anyone who has personality cult should not be voted, but influencing through kids, youth movements and so on... That man is pure trouble.

As ending a small translation of mine from good autobiography "Technical Student in Hitler's Germany" author of which studied in Germany 1934-1939 and had to smuggle his wife out of Germany - she had Jewish roots. Here is what he says of Nazis near end: "In Germany, as in all dictatorships, teachings were spread in ways familiar from Russia: Down with capitalists, take money from the rich and spread their wealth. In practise masses could not have access to that wealth, but the party and its leaders did."

Obama is hardly any nazi, more like socialist (further left than most parties we have here) but his methods sure give me creeps. Anyway... that's some food for thought.

247 Pete(Detroit)  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 10:39:41am

That does it! I'm DEFINITELY handing out the 're-distribution of candy' cartoon on Friday...

248 J'accuzzi  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 11:17:00am

Is there some dissatisfaction at the top with the grade school indoctrination programs? Who bears responsibility for such a huge failure if progressive ideas are being thwarted in their application?

249 Sir Lurksalot  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 11:28:13am

Is there any link where kids can report on their parents saying negative things about O?

250 FortunateSon  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 2:16:12pm

"Wear an Obama for America Campaign button and/or clothing."

Do this with a Palin shirt, however, and you're a "Racist."

It would be one thing if Obama was encouraging kids to do their civic duty by learning the facts, reading up on candidates and the political process in general, and (good heavens!) understanding the Constitution, so that they could be responsible and independently-thinking voters when they were able to vote. Hell, I'd even admire him for it. My elementary school "social studies" classes were, for the most part, unenlightening. That's a little much to expect from any political candidate, though.

But this is indoctrination, pure and simple. If McCain tried to do this, the comparisons to the Hitler Youth would be flying left and right. There are reasons we do not let all persons in this country vote regardless of age; 12 year olds are a bit (unfortunately, only a very small bit) more easily swayed by propaganda like this. This is just like schoolkids guilting their parents into Green lifestyles after watching An Inconvenient Truth in class.

My great hope is that undecideds see this for what it is: a blatant attempt at indoctrination.

True Story: I cried (or so I have been told by my family) in 1992 when Slick Willie got elected. There was something even my four-year-old mind didn't like about the guy. My parents, though conservative/libertarian, are not very politically active, so I'm pretty sure it was from watching him on TV. I didn't, however, expect my voice to be heard on the national stage, which is apparently what Obama thinks kids should demand. Stupid.

251 swamprat  Mon, Oct 27, 2008 7:00:29pm

Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or “an expression of Democracy”. For example, the Senator sitting in the White House or working on Capitol. Hill. You can send your drawing to the Obama for America Campaign Headquarters in Chicago and it will be posted for the Senator to see.

This, and the personal presidential seal, and the roman columns, and the overly huge Chicago acceptance party preparations, are an attempt at sympathetic magic......look it up.....I was beginning to suspect this for a while. Pagans and wiccans should know immediately what I mean.

252 Ledger1  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 2:41:01am

[Iowahawk comment on the "polls"]:

Statisticians love balls and urns. A typical Stats 101 midterm, for example, usually includes a question along these lines:

"You take a simple random sample of 1000 balls from an urn containing 120,000,000 red and blue balls, and your sample shows 450 red balls and 550 blue balls. Construct a 95% confidence interval for the true proportion of blue balls in the urn."

After choking back a giggle about "blue balls," you whip out your calculator and text your frat brother who has a copy of last semester's midterm...

[Discussion of statistics and the infamous "margin of error"]

This is, for all intents and purposes, how political pollsters compute the mysterious "margin of error," which has everything to do (and only to do) with pure mathematical sampling error. If you look at the formula above and round it just a smidge, you get a simple rule of thumb for margin of error:

Margin of Error = 1 / sqrt(n)

So if the sample size is 400, the margin of error is 1/20 = 5%; if the sample size is 625 the margin of error is 1/25 = 4%; if the sample size is 1000, it's about 3%.

Works pretty well if you're interested in hypothetical colored balls in hypothetical giant urns, or growth of plants in a controlled experiment, or defects in a batch of factory products. It may even work well if you're interested in blind cola taste tests. But what if the thing you are studying doesn't quite fit the balls & urns template?

• What if 40% of the balls have personally chosen to live in an urn that you legally can't stick your hand into?

• What if 50% of the balls who live in the legal urn explicitly refuse to let you select them?

Margin of Error = Who the hell knows

Under these circumstances "margin of error" is a fantasy, a numeric fiction masquerading as a pseudo-scientific fact. If a poll reports it -- even if it's collected "scientifically" -- the pollster is guilty of aggravated bullshit in the first degree.

Read the entire Iowahawk piece


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