Just saw this on Fox.

Thank God they got them before they hurt anyone.

The numbers 88 and 14 are symbolic in the white supremacist community.

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target, Cavanaugh told The Associated Press.

Does anyone know what the numbers symbolize?

Ugh. How disgusting.

That said, this type of thing is absolutely detrimental to our campaign.

Sick.

re: #2 loppyd

Does anyone know what the numbers symbolize?

'88' refers to 8th letter in the alphabet, H. Two 8s together symbolize 'Heil Hitler'.

'14' is a reference to the '14 words' coined by white supremacist David Lane (now in jail):

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

OK as disgusting this is this plot consisted of two skin heads who were going to break into a gun store then go to a high school and kill x number of black students, then kill Obama? Riiiiiight. The school shooting part is really scary but I highly doubt these two nut-cases were going to get any where near Obama. When I first saw the headlines I thought it was some massive group of skin-heads. Not too smart either. Of course Obama will use it and the MSM will also. Not helpful to McCain.

I'm really glad they were stopped.

But I must wonder, just how serious were these guys? They were going to rob a gun store and go on their spree? They couldn't even plan far enough ahead to already have their own guns? Or were they already disqualified from the background checks, due to mental problems (and how come that never seems to stop the ones like the guy at Virginia Tech?) and felony convictions?

Thanks a lot, you dumbasses. Way to give the Obamites more ammunition.

/yeah, the pun is deliberate.

A little off topic an Obama spokesman waas on Cavuto talking about the Biden/ Barbara West interview. He said that the Orlando station will be cut off for the duratiobn of the Obama Presidency.
I can hear it now, :"To all Cadres, by order of Comrade Obama, only Party approved media outlets will be privy to information & interviews.
Further all reactionary, counter revolutionary organs will be shut down.

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

Thank goodness for the Feds, doing their job day after day. We have a sense these days that our politicians are somehow safe, but we forget sometimes that this is due to the Feds doing their job to guard them every minute of every day and their ability to learn of plots and to catch lunatics like these guys.

More power to the Feds. It's a never-ending hard job.

Glad they were caught. Unfortunately, there are more where they came from. Evil is like that.

Speaking of Nazis....There is a photo posted at this blog which shows a person wearing a Nazi arm patch that they claim was taken at a Sarah Palin rally.

The picture is making it's way around the Lefty blogs today, but as far as I can see, the picture could have been taken anywhere.

Anyone else see this?

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

Short trip for them to get there.

I smell a rat here. Morons making plans like this just so it can be another distraction from looking into Obama. Crap.

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

Naturally.

However, it's two guys who couldn't plot their way out of a paper bag, and so big-mouthed that law enforcement caught them without really having to breathe hard.

What does that say?

These idiots should never see the outside of a prison cell for as long as they live.
Thank goodness the Feds got these aholes. Hope they got all of them and this will deter any others from even thinking about this.

Lock them up, never let them out.

The 14th letter in the alphabet is also N, so there's another connection.

I hate Nazis. Charles, your link is not working here.

re: #3 TheMatrix31

I don't follow. What in the world does it have to do with us or the McCain campaign?

I wonder if the FBI or local police were the ones who had a bead on this first. They say ATF, but I don't see how they would be involved unless it had to do with plans to rob the gun store.
In any case, bravo to law enforcement for catching this so fast!

This seems about a fishy as the attack story last week about the letter 'B' carved into a woman's face. I'll give it 48 hrs.

I like the headline: ATF "foiled" the plot. They didn't foil anything. It was completely by accident. And needles to say, these two aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, i'd be surprised if any candidate referred to this in any context. In fact, the headline was at the top of the msnbc website at first and highlighted in red, now its a tiny footnote that you would miss if you weren't looking for the story.

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

As much as I hate to say it, the assassination idea had to have been in their (and everyone's minds) anyway.

Ugh. Stupid people, man.

Doubtful that this is going to be the deciding factor for anyone fence sitting at this late date.

Tennessee Skinheads. I hate Tennessee Skinheads (sound of revving engine).

Ringo, that person with the nazi arm band would more likely be at an Obama rally.

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

Wouldn't that be a case of bringing coals to Newcastle?

Charles, I see you are here. I emailed a link to you about a case in PA involving an issue you don't want posted here. Any opinion on it?

.I am glad this was thwarted ...I have to wonder about the two guys in Crockett County ....probably two idiots on meth .....The feds keep so much quiet when they want to ...why didn't they just wait to put this out there till after the election .. This will just cause more racial problems right now when things are so raw ..

OT ... Megan Kelly is bringing it to Burton from Senator Government campaign ..Go Girl!

well, obviously to the extent there is any reality to this, its a good thing they were caught and I hope they throw the book at them.

sounds like a couple of glue sniffing 'tards, with grandiose plans for race war, but insufficient brain power to accomplish a mission to Taco Bell.

the lefties will now attempt to paint them as typical McCain supporters, and BTW we really need some better gun control, as well as domestic surveillance on those who do not yet see the benefits of the Way of the Anointed One.

re: #7 Dianna

I'm really glad they were stopped.

But I must wonder, just how serious were these guys? They were going to rob a gun store and go on their spree? They couldn't even plan far enough ahead to already have their own guns? Or were they already disqualified from the background checks, due to mental problems (and how come that never seems to stop the ones like the guy at Virginia Tech?) and felony convictions?

Right. Sounds like a guy going up to an angel investor asking for $20 million, but with no plan beyond, "open up some stores and sell some stuff".

I think the lack of details in the report is very troubling.

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

I wouldn't see the point of it. A story of two bumbling idiots isn't much of a story. The story about Mrs. backwards-B is more of a story due to the campaign pushing it, and the context which the allegations were made.

Obviously we're glad no one was hurt, kudos to law enforcement, and certainly our country doesn't need this,
but..
two?
a plot?
two less than organized idiots garners this type of press?
oh, right...

re: #21 wolfie

I don't follow. What in the world does it have to do with us or the McCain campaign?

I wonder if the FBI or local police were the ones who had a bead on this first. They say ATF, but I don't see how they would be involved unless it had to do with plans to rob the gun store.
In any case, bravo to law enforcement for catching this so fast!

People are going to be like "Oh, look, skinheads! Narrow-minded disgusting people, just like the Conservatives! Surely there are other nutjob racist rednecks deep in the south that can do this type of thing!"

Trust me, I've encountered this line of thinking before, as ridiculous as it may be.

re: #1 loppyd

Just saw this on Fox.

Thank God they got them before they hurt anyone.

The chances of success were probably close to zero but I'm glad the unhinged nutcases were picked up.

They were planning on "robbing a gun store" for crying out loud. They obviously had no idea what kind of security is required to operate a firearms store and they would have either been thwarted by the security system or picked up by the police in the attempt.

re: #25 vagabond trader

Doubtful that this is going to be the deciding factor for anyone fence sitting at this late date.

Agreed.
So what was your deciding factor in voting for Obama?
Oh, definitely the skinhead assassination attempt. We just don't need that in America and that's what McCain was all about.

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

New Wright Ad Attacks Obama in Battlegrounds

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

A Republican political action committee on Monday is launching a new TV ad campaign in three battleground states featuring Sen. Barack Obama alongside the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, in the latest salvo from a GOP-aligned group to use clips of Obama’s controversial former pastor.

The ad, from the National Republican Trust PAC, features now-famous video of Wright declaring “God damn America,” and the “US of KKKA.”

“For 20 years Barack Obama followed a preacher of hate and said nothing as Wright raged against our country,” the ad says. “He built his power base in Wright's church. Wright was his mentor, adviser and close friend. For 20 years Obama never complained -- until he ran for president. Barack Obama. Too radical. Too risky.”

JacksonTn, I agree. Why not release it after the election? Also why didn't the Stevens trial verdict be held until after the election? They were mighty quick to decide. Don't get me wrong Stevens was one rotten apple.

Ironically, the Democrat Fair Play for Terrorist Act of 2009 hasn't yet been enacted - though it will be.

re: #39 Charles

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

Like father, like "son".

I'm curious: The article notes that this information comes from unsealed court documents. When, exactly, was this plot foiled, and when was it supposd to take place?

In any case, hope the skinheads spend the rest of their lives in prison. Gomer, meet Bubba, your new cellmate.

Freakin' skinhead morons. Rot in jail.

Wait a minute, what's going on here? You got a guy that's obviously insane, saying, "I was going to kill all these people. And then I was going to kill all these people." Is that all there is to it? If you pick up some guy for disorderly conduct, and he says, "I have this nuclear bomb; I'm gonna me a bomb on Pakistan" does that really translate into a "Plot to destroy Pakistan"?

re: #39 Charles

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

"Cracker Bob" Beckel can't do it all on his own.

Plus he needs adult supervision.

re: #32 cliffster

Oh! Those were the days!

re: #43 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Like father, like "son".

Who is his dad?

re: #46 cliffster

Wait a minute, what's going on here? You got a guy that's obviously insane, saying, "I was going to kill all these people. And then I was going to kill all these people." Is that all there is to it? If you pick up some guy for disorderly conduct, and he says, "I have this nuclear bomb; I'm gonna me a bomb on Pakistan" does that really translate into a "Plot to destroy Pakistan"?

When did Obama get picked up for disorderly conduct?

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re: #29 kansas

Charles, I see you are here. I emailed a link to you about a case in PA involving an issue you don't want posted here. Any opinion on it?

Please stop with the birth certificate stuff. I don't know how much clearly I can say this.

It's CRAP. The link you sent is to the complaint by 9/11 Truther Phillip Berg. The people who are trying to float this garbage are now tricking people into thinking it's the judge's ruling. It is NOT.

The case was thrown out. It's over. Just stop.

BREAKING!

UNCOVERED: Plot by Crypto-Communists to Destroy America

re: #39 Charles

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

I think that's the guy that was on Cavuto an hour ago.

That guy is a POS to the 10th degree.

re: #35 Killer Tomato

To conspire requires only two people.

Well, I guess some people could conspire with themselves, but they usually are not terribly organized about it.

re: #37 Wendya

The chances of success were probably close to zero but I'm glad the unhinged nutcases were picked up.

They were planning on "robbing a gun store" for crying out loud. They obviously had no idea what kind of security is required to operate a firearms store and they would have either been thwarted by the security system or picked up by the police in the attempt.

I dunno. We've had gun store burglaries here in Texas where the peps weren't caught, and the cops believe the guns were being sent to drug gangs in Mexico.

re: #49 JacksonTn

Who is his dad?

I meant he's just like Obama, his dear leader (father), which is why I put son in quotes.

"...plans to rob a gun store..."

Just what you'd expect from brain dead skinheads. Start out on a murder spree by committing suicide.

I know that all such things must be taken seriously, but hey, this looks like the masturbation fantasy of a pair of total numbnuts, and about as serious as a hangnail. They probably got caught by posting their plans on the internet!

And so it has begun. I am so very glad this was stopped. We all should pray for Obama's safety because of what would happen in this nation if any harm should come to him. While many of us disagree with his policies and views of America, his followers will always look at US as being like those that plotted this horrific act. They think just because we disagree with Obama that we are like these nuts.

Whatever happens on November 4th, we must all remain restrained and do not allow ourselves to be divided amongst racial lines like Obama wants.

These Whiteys truly are crazy! I am referring to the SNL skit where they had Rev. Wright singing, "Whitey be crazy!" How can anyone possible still support Hitler or the likes of the KKK? I just cannot wrap my mind around this type of hatred and lunacy. It makes me ill!

Way to go Feds in stopping this!

Keith Olbermann, who always condemns reports of thwarted jihadist plots as fear mongering, and reasons that plots that don't actually succeed were never a danger, will obviously lead the throng of leftists who rage over this.

It's a mistake to not take any of these nutters seriously. Think Allen Berg.

re: #37 Wendya

The chances of success were probably close to zero but I'm glad the unhinged nutcases were picked up.

They were planning on "robbing a gun store" for crying out loud. They obviously had no idea what kind of security is required to operate a firearms store and they would have either been thwarted by the security system or picked up by the police in the attempt.

More likely picked up by a meat wagon. The gun shops I patronize all have armed staff, who would cheerfully send these two clowns to their maker if they tried to rob the joint. Skinheads not being exactly inconspicuous, they're not going to, like, take anyone by surprise.

re: #31 Steve_NO

sounds like a couple of glue sniffing 'tards, with grandiose plans for race war, but insufficient brain power to accomplish a mission to Taco Bell.

Now cleaning my monitor - great turn of the phrase there.

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

Absolutely. This stokes their paranoia big time. Not to mention that the Islamic totalitarians will point to this as another example of "the real terrorism" that us "Islamophobics" want to ignore.

re: #39 Charles

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

I thought that dubious 'honor' went to spokestool Axelrod.

Charles

"The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this."

Especially if domestic spying was used to catch them.

Even only two can do a lot of destruction.

Question, were they going for urban schools? If so, is there good sercurity?

re: #39 Charles

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

Hard to believe someone like that could be associated with Obama.

/very sarc

re: #51 Charles

Please stop with the birth certificate stuff. I don't know how much clearly I can say this.

It's CRAP. The link you sent is to the complaint by 9/11 Truther Phillip Berg. The people who are trying to float this garbage are now tricking people into thinking it's the judge's ruling. It is NOT.

The case was thrown out. It's over. Just stop.

OK. It looked legit. Sorry.

re: #58 freeus

And so it has begun. I am so very glad this was stopped. We all should pray for Obama's safety because of what would happen in this nation if any harm should come to him. While many of us disagree with his policies and views of America, his followers will always look at US as being like those that plotted this horrific act. They think just because we disagree with Obama that we are like these nuts.

Whatever happens on November 4th, we must all remain restrained and do not allow ourselves to be divided amongst racial lines like Obama wants.

These Whiteys truly are crazy! I am referring to the SNL skit where they had Rev. Wright singing, "Whitey be crazy!" How can anyone possible still support Hitler or the likes of the KKK? I just cannot wrap my mind around this type of hatred and lunacy. It makes me ill!

Way to go Feds in stopping this!

I am thinking the rest of the "World" already thinks that ...just as the UN

OMG!

The LA Times has video of McCain Obama praising these skinheads terrorists for their efforts.

Why won't they release these tapes showing McCain Obama associating with these monsters?

re: #54 Dianna

Oh Dianna I know - it's just that 'Assassination Plot' somehow implies (to me, anyway) more than two nitwits with a vague concept of a plan.
But I guess 'Two Nitwits with a Vague Concept of a Plan' isn't really a good headline.

Want to know one good reason markets are selling at least here in the US?

re: #59 DeeAitch

Keith Olbermann, who always condemns reports of thwarted jihadist plots as fear mongering, and reasons that plots that don't actually succeed were never a danger, will obviously lead the throng of leftists who rage over this.

Olbermann....there's one....Never mind, self-deleted....

re: #30 JacksonTn

You stole my thunder. Good on ya! Megan rocks!

thankfully no one was hurt, but folks should carefully consider what a President Biden would be like.

re: #41 nigella

JacksonTn, I agree. Why not release it after the election? Also why didn't the Stevens trial verdict be held until after the election? They were mighty quick to decide. Don't get me wrong Stevens was one rotten apple.

And why are Tony Rezko's court decisions being delayed until after the election?

re: #37 Wendya

Reminding me of the time my Male and I were walking out of our favorite gun range, which is right next to the local cop shop and across the street from a fairly serious dojo. There were some punks hanging around the edge of the parking lot, trying to look tough.

We looked at each other for a moment, and I said, "Do you ever find yourself thinking that there are people who simply don't think it through?"

My Male nodded. "Right. They're trying to intimidate people with firearms, martial arts training, and badges."

In unison: "This is not going to end well!"

There are a number of things about this story which don't add up (to me anyway).

1) If I read this properly all of the "quotes" are from a court document of some sort, not live sources.

2) Apparently this document came out of ATF, not FBI. If it was an active case I'm pretty sure that ATF would have referred it to FBI and FBI would be releasing the information.

3) The story doesn't say when the plot was broken up or at what stage. Is there any info on that?

This may well be a valid story, but to me it smells too much like some bureaucrat in ATF trying to grab a bigger piece of the pie by currying favor with the front runner and throwing out info on some old case that makes it look like the messiah's life is currently being threatened by gun toting racists.

I've just got to wonder whether there was anything more to the "assassination plot" than some idle boasting by a couple of mouth-breathers. It wouldn't surprise me if the ATF is highly exaggerating that aspect for political purposes.

Didn't this plot get uncovered a few months ago?

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

you say that like they aren't already insane:)

First the Ron-Paul neurotic fat idiot who made up a story about getting robbed at gun point by a 6'6'' black man, who them carved a B for "Barack" on her face.... that was racist.

Now these moronic skinheads... with a plan as vile as ridiculous, which was never going to get enacted, but would just damage the McCain campaign and give Obama ammunition.

The sad thing is these freaks are not Mobies either. There are very many insane cooks on the Left, but somehow it's the cooks on the right that have been making the headlines.

It's getting ridiculous... These sick marginal freaks need to be weeded out of the political spectrum.

#59

Keith Olbermann, who always condemns reports of thwarted jihadist plots as fear mongering, and reasons that plots that don't actually succeed were never a danger, will obviously lead the throng of leftists who rage over this.

Hypocrisy, thy name is liberalism.

re: #37 Wendya

The chances of success were probably close to zero but I'm glad the unhinged nutcases were picked up.

They were planning on "robbing a gun store" for crying out loud. They obviously had no idea what kind of security is required to operate a firearms store and they would have either been thwarted by the security system or picked up by the police in the attempt.

Or shot by the store owner.
That would have been the best outcome.

re: #71 filetandrelease

Want to know one good reason markets are selling at least here in the US?

I work in the markets and i am telling you that some of the selling has to do with the impenidng communist overlord winning the election...

re: #75 Hobbes

And why are Tony Rezko's court decisions being delayed until after the election?

They're not. He was found guilty and the sentencing is on hold because he's singing like a bird to the feds in an attempt to save his a$$.

re: #44 jwpaine

I'm curious, too, since I couldn't get the rest of the story due to a broken link.

Crockett County - that's about 100 miles northeast of Memphis.

re: #17 newsjunkie_ky

These idiots should never see the outside of a prison cell for as long as they live.

What was the Poe story about the man who bricked up his wife in the basement?

/just askin'
/nope, nothin' at all to do with saving the expense of burial later

re: #77 CIA Reject

Right. So, the ATF is in cahoots with the Obama campaign. Gotcha.

Skin heads - crazies on the Right
Weathermen - crazies on the Left

the two men planned to shoot 88 black people and decapitate another 14.

Decapitate people? I wonder where they got that idea?
Thanks again ROP, inspiring the best in people all over the world!

re: #36 TheMatrix31

Yeah, you're right. They can spin anything any which way, I guess.
And probably will!

How about this spin:
This incident shows the value of pre-emptive strikes by the good guys against would-be terrorists.

re: #86 Dianna

I'm curious, too, since I couldn't get the rest of the story due to a broken link.

Link works now.

My first thought is Bill Ayers and how he is a lot like these guys. He also wanted to use violence to achieve his goals and ideals. Obama has some terrific friends.

Terrorism sucks no matter who you are. Glad these guys got caught.

re: #87 Intrepid

Crockett County - that's about 100 miles northeast of Memphis.

Very small county. Probably everyone know everyone ..

re: #77 CIA Reject

There are a number of things about this story which don't add up (to me anyway).

1) If I read this properly all of the "quotes" are from a court document of some sort, not live sources.

2) Apparently this document came out of ATF, not FBI. If it was an active case I'm pretty sure that ATF would have referred it to FBI and FBI would be releasing the information.

3) The story doesn't say when the plot was broken up or at what stage. Is there any info on that?

This may well be a valid story, but to me it smells too much like some bureaucrat in ATF trying to grab a bigger piece of the pie by currying favor with the front runner and throwing out info on some old case that makes it look like the messiah's life is currently being threatened by gun toting racists.

Dingdingdingdingding! We have a winnah!

re: #92 wolfie

Yeah, you're right. They can spin anything any which way, I guess.
And probably will!

How about this spin:
This incident shows the value of pre-emptive strikes by the good guys against would-be terrorists.

I think lunatics on the left aren't capable of such logic.

re: #90 jill e

Skin heads - crazies on the Right
Weathermen - crazies on the Left

Let 'em duke it out on an island somewhere.

re: #84 cblesz

I work in the markets and i am telling you that some of the selling has to do with the impenidng communist overlord winning the election...

If McCain wins, Nov 5th would probably be a very good time to buy stocks.

re: #89 lgfvidz

Right. So, the ATF is in cahoots with the Obama campaign. Gotcha.

No, I didn't say that, I said that it smells like some bureaucrat at ATF is trying to grab a bigger piece of the pie by currying favor with the front runner and throwing out info on some BS case that makes it look like the messiah's life is threatened by racists.

While these bonehead Nazi assholes need to be locked up ASAP for a long time, I seriously doubt that their plot would have come anywhere close to ever actually happening. I mean, they were still in the sheer fantasy stage -- they hadn't even robbed the gun store yet. Much less done any of their other crap.

I seriously doubt they would have even gotten past step one. Robbing a gun store -- when you yourself do not yet have a gun -- is complete idiocy, and if they had tried, they probably would have not survived the attempt. Which is fine by me.

As for the rest -- yeah, you'll be able to sit there and slowly behead 102 people. Yeah. That's really gonna happen. I think halfway through the first neck and they would have been thankfully killed themselves.

And needless to say, they would have never gotten anywhere near Obama.

They are dangerous demented idiots, but this wasn't like a viable plot. And, of course, the media will play it up to the hilt to shame anybody who opposes Obama.

/Thanks, Nazis, you really did everyone a service

/sarc

The men also sought to go on a national killing spree, with Obama as its final target,

Right! As if they would get within a thousands of miles of Obama.

Just when Obama's policies are gaining some traction comes the masturbatory fantasies of a couple of demented skin head types to gain Obama sympathy and change the subject.

re: #79 Racer X

Didn't this plot get uncovered a few months ago?

I was wondering the same thing. The cynic in me can't help but notice the timing as the "spread the wealth" and the audio of his redistribution wealth interview that Charles posted has gone viral.

buzzsawmonkey....what you said

Why would the ATF take the lead on this? why not the FBI or the USSS?

re: #90 jill e

Skin heads - crazies on the Right
Weathermen - crazies on the Left

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

Reposted from prior thread:

If this was in West Tennessee, then the moron skinheads would probably be Yellow Dog Democrats. Or only one generation removed, at the most.

Good job to the agents who got these guys.

Inevitably, this will get blamed on "the racism and hate so rampant on the Right," overtly by lefty bloggers, as Charles said, and perhaps more subtly by Team O campaign officials or network anchors.

I just want them to explain this to me, before they run and pin this on conservatives, or at least people who oppose Obama in general:

skinheads=neo-Nazis

Nazi=Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei=National Socialist German Workers' Party

Socialist=/=Conservative (in the modern, American, Joe the Plumber sense)

Seems pretty simple to me.

I realize skinheads are more about white power than worker's rights, but still, you can't invoke Hitler without a nod to the Aryan Socialist utopia he proposed.

Senator Bird (D) (ex Klansman) couldn' be found for comment.

re: #70 Killer Tomato

But I guess 'Two Nitwits with a Vague Concept of a Plan' isn't really a good headline.

A very good point. I like the line, though!

re: #106 bulwrk

Why would the ATF take the lead on this? why not the FBI or the USSS?

Because the morons were armed and durnk while smoking cigarettes?

re: #55 Ward Cleaver

I dunno. We've had gun store burglaries here in Texas where the peps weren't caught, and the cops believe the guns were being sent to drug gangs in Mexico.

I read about the cheaper than dirt burglary. I don't know what Texas law requires but if someone uses a heavy vehicle to either breach the doors or pull the bars down, they probably will be long gone before the police get around to responding to the alarm. That's when a good armed alarm response company comes in handy.

re: #95 JacksonTn

Very small county. Probably everyone know everyone ..

True. But I'm a bit skeptical of a major group of "skinheads" that close to Shelby County. Probably just two punks who thought they were going to get some attention, but didn't think through what kind of attention they would ultimately receive.

re: #89 lgfvidz

Right. So, the ATF is in cahoots with the Obama campaign. Gotcha.

"Currying favor" is not "in cahoots", just to let you know that your rephrase of the statement isn't working.

They will be the Kings of Aryan Brotherhood when they go to jail ...or back to jail ..This country has had a scab pulled off and I am hoping we can get on the right track after this election ..How long has this campaign been going on ....seems like forever ..

re: #107 Eowyn2

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

LOL!

re: #78 doppelganglander

I've just got to wonder whether there was anything more to the "assassination plot" than some idle boasting by a couple of mouth-breathers. It wouldn't surprise me if the ATF is highly exaggerating that aspect for political purposes.

This story will help Obama's plans to create a civilian security force that rivals the military, read Gestapo, and some veteran in an agency like ATF will need to be put in charge of it.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What was the Poe story about the man who bricked up his wife in the basement?

/just askin'
/nope, nothin' at all to do with saving the expense of burial later

That's "The Cask of Amontillado." He actually entombed his rival, not his wife.

re: #107 Eowyn2

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

It would be lonely in the middle without sites like LGF!

re: #85 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

They're not. He was found guilty and the sentencing is on hold because he's singing like a bird to the feds in an attempt to save his a$$.

That's only the first trial. He has another one pending.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

doriangrey and I got together...

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"Cask of Amontillado"

re: #5 Charles

Thanks, Charles.

re: #102 zombie

I seriously doubt they would have even gotten past step one.

Apparently they didn't.

re: #7 Dianna

I'm really glad they were stopped.

But I must wonder, just how serious were these guys? They were going to rob a gun store and go on their spree? They couldn't even plan far enough ahead to already have their own guns? Or were they already disqualified from the background checks, due to mental problems (and how come that never seems to stop the ones like the guy at Virginia Tech?) and felony convictions?

Everybody I knew who worked in a gun store was usually packin'.
Sorta like trying to rob a cop bar. Not a good idea.

re: #106 bulwrk

Why would the ATF take the lead on this? why not the FBI or the USSS?

Because the plan was to rob a gun store.

Sad to say, but the White Supremacists are going to be plotting for 4 years if Obambi gets elected. Just a fact.

re: #106 bulwrk

ATF (&E) probably got the lead on the gun store (pawn shop?) robbery plot and this is what developed from the investigation.

the dumbasses (Red Foreman would be proud) were probably already apprehended prior to the murder plot being uncovered. Hence no FBI, CIA, secret service, etc.

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

Whether or not the story is propaganda or truth /or some combination - there's nothing like an assassination plot to legitimize a Messiah complex.

re: #108 Son of the Black Dog

Reposted from prior thread:

If this was in West Tennessee, then the moron skinheads would probably be Yellow Dog Democrats. Or only one generation removed, at the most.

My side of the family are yellow dogs voting for McCain this time so please don't say that ... and those guys who did this have probably never even voted ...don't assume all democrats would do something like that ....way to bring democrats into the McCain camp by saying that ... NOT

re: #112 kansas

Drunk and smoking I'll buy but it doesn't sound as if they were armed yet.

re: #110 WrathofG-d

Senator Bird (D) (ex Klansman) couldn' be found for comment.

That's because he's at the ribbon cutting for the Robert Bird memorial outhouse which located on the Robert Bird Memorial Rest Stop which is located on the Robert Bird Memorial Highway.

re: #119 doppelganglander

That's "The Cask of Amontillado." He actually entombed his rival, not his wife.

In Poe's "The Black Cat," the narrator bricked up his wife's body in the cellar. He killed her with an ax when she stopped him from killing the cat.

re: #112 kansas

Because the morons were armed and durnk while smoking cigarettes?

Ding Ding Ding

re: #90 jill e

Skin heads - crazies on the Right
Weathermen - crazies on the Left

Each would be so far to the left or right that they'd probably have more in common than they realized ('Wow! I hate the lackey Zionist stooge pigs in government as well!) and it would- unfortunately- turn into a love-fest at some point.

re: #81 medaura18586

The main difference between the Left and the "right" today is that we do weed the scumballs out. The Left, on the other hand, holds candlelight vigils for them or appoints them to professorships at Northwestern.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Um...you're thinking of "The Cask of Amantillado", where the narrator bricks up a rich man. Not his wife.

There are surprisingly few Poe stories where women are the victim. Even in "The Fall of the House of Usher", the sister comes back from the dead, but she wasn't murdered - or at least I never interpreted the story that way.

Personally, I wish a long life of consistent mediocrity for the Obama and Co. Perhaps sprinkled with a couple more navel gazing bios for old times sake.

re: #132 bulwrk

Drunk and smoking I'll buy but it doesn't sound as if they were armed yet.

I guess it was the rob the gun store thing. What a distraction. Can't we get back to Sarah Palin's warddrobe? Joe Biden will be glad this might put an end to any actual questions from the media.

re: #128 cblesz

I have heard this from quite a few people - on both sides of the political spectrum.

re: #90 jill e
Skin heads - crazies on the Right
Weathermen - crazies on the Left

Only dif is, skin heads go to jail, lefties are given professor jobs.

These guys will be punished to the full extent of the law. Bill Ayers...not so much.

If Obama is elected, I hope he serves his full term for a number of good-natured reasons, but for me it could also be so Biden doesn't get a chance in the Big Chair.

That guy is nuts. Really nuts. Really dumb and nuts.

re: #115 OldLineTexan

"Currying favor" is not "in cahoots", just to let you know that your rephrase of the statement isn't working.

Perhaps not, but its seems to be quite a waste to act equally as crazy as out two skin-head scholars when a government organization makes a public statement. Note, this story isn't even on DailyKos.

re: #107 Eowyn2

Here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.

re: #142 Teacake!

Only dif is, skin heads go to jail, lefties are given professor jobs.

That's what I've said before—only difference between Timothy McVeigh and Bill Ayers is the death count AND the death penalty!

Once again, the White powerLESS crowd are stopped by those "inferior" Blacks, and the long-arm of ZOG!

hahahhahahahhahaha, I was so laughing when we discussed this a month ago at our monthly Zionist-Illuminati meating.

re: #100 filetandrelease

If McCain wins, Nov 5th would probably be a very good time to buy stocks.

That is my reasoning as well and why I am contemplating the size of the check I send my broker for "fire-sale bargains".

re: #145 lgfvidz

* out = our

Charles: oh jeez the BC thing again?
Ok I've got a link that claims The Treasury is being run by a Martian..
Also Obama's father was really a Venusian citizen.
His mother was a skin head and we have been secretly selling Nuclear weapons to Iran..
I swear it's all fact...Can I post the links?
/Not really..but come on..let's stop this stuff Lizards...

re: #137 wolfie

The main difference between the Left and the "right" today is that we do weed the scumballs out. The Left, on the other hand, holds candlelight vigils for them or appoints them to professorships at Northwestern.

You have a point there. "The Left" tends to usually bribe its cooks into docility. The cooks of "the Right" are disfranchised, and feel they must take up arms and revolt.

I still can't believe Palin spoke on the phone with that fat racist lying bitch before all the facts had been put together. Copy-cats are likely to follow now, after all the attention these freaks are getting.

This ATF bust appears to have been recent. From a Memphis Commercial/Appeal article on it:

Last Monday Coward traveled from Tennessee to Arkansas to pick up Schlesselman to carry out the plan

re: #111 Dianna

Me too! (Why don't headlines writers have a sense of humor?!)

re: #10 Charles

The lefty blogs are going to go insane about this.

Of course.

Something about this smells fishy.

re: #144 Noam Chumpski

If Obama is elected, I hope he serves his full term for a number of good-natured reasons, but for me it could also be so Biden doesn't get a chance in the Big Chair.

That guy is nuts. Really nuts. Really dumb and nuts.

6 letter word: S-C-A-R-Y...oops that's only 5 letters

re: #144 Noam Chumpski

If Obama is elected, I hope he serves his full term for a number of good-natured reasons, but for me it could also be so Biden doesn't get a chance in the Big Chair.

That guy is nuts. Really nuts. Really dumb and nuts.

I'd rather have Joe Biden for 20 years before I have Obama for 4.

You know the MSM/lefty blogs will attempt to tie this to McCain, when in reality their are far left/right people who think about the same thing.

re: #2 loppyd

Does anyone know what the numbers symbolize?

Alphabet code for "HH" and "AH" respectively, you can figure out the rest.

I'm glad they got these sunsabitches, I knew those lowlifes would be up to something like this. It's about the worst thing that could happen.

re: #156 cblesz

6 letter word: S-C-A-R-Y...oops that's only 5 letters

I got a 4-letter response: Y-E-S

re: #157 TheMatrix31

I'd rather have Joe Biden for 20 years before I have Obama for 4.

drinking early?

re: #39 Charles

Wow. Bill Burton from the Obama campaign is one of the most smug, arrogant creeps I've ever seen. He was just on Fox News being a complete pissant.

I've noticed that many of the Obama campaign's spokespersons are smug, arrogant creeps. They seem to want to go out of their way to be annoying.

re: #145 lgfvidz

Perhaps not, but its seems to be quite a waste to act equally as crazy as out two skin-head scholars when a government organization makes a public statement. Note, this story isn't even on DailyKos.

I am not able to follow your statement. Sorry.

Okay, it is wrong to wish bad things upon the plotters. Is it okay to say that I hope they are not incarcerated in a segregated cell block?

re: #160 Noam Chumpski

I got a 4-letter response: Y-E-S

OK...OK...spitting out my water...

Hillary Clinton Forum w/link reports that this happened back in August and was reported on then.

Someone put this back out there in order to get the LAT/withheld tape and Obama interview/"wealth redistribution stories derailed.

re: #157 TheMatrix31

I'd rather have Joe Biden for 20 years before I have Obama for 4.

I see your point, however, I'm unconvinced anything would last a 20-year Biden term. ;)

re: #156 cblesz

6 letter word: S-C-A-R-Y...oops that's only 5 letters

You been reading a Biden dictionary or something?

A Florida TV station:

Daniel Cowart, 20, of Bells, Tennessee and Paul Schlesselman, 18, of West Helena, Arkansas were charged in a federal Criminal Complaint on Friday

re: #167 Noam Chumpski

I see your point, however, I'm unconvinced anything would last a 20-year Biden term. ;)

Not even his everlasting hair plugs? :)

re: #102 zombie

While these bonehead Nazi assholes need to be locked up ASAP for a long time, I seriously doubt that their plot would have come anywhere close to ever actually happening. I mean, they were still in the sheer fantasy stage -- they hadn't even robbed the gun store yet. Much less done any of their other crap.

I seriously doubt they would have even gotten past step one. Robbing a gun store -- when you yourself do not yet have a gun -- is complete idiocy, and if they had tried, they probably would have not survived the attempt. Which is fine by me.

As for the rest -- yeah, you'll be able to sit there and slowly behead 102 people. Yeah. That's really gonna happen. I think halfway through the first neck and they would have been thankfully killed themselves.

And needless to say, they would have never gotten anywhere near Obama.

They are dangerous demented idiots, but this wasn't like a viable plot. And, of course, the media will play it up to the hilt to shame anybody who opposes Obama.

/Thanks, Nazis, you really did everyone a service

/sarc

Good point. Robbing a gun store w/o a gun, let me know how it works out.

I'd rather have Joe Biden for 20 years before I have Obama for 4.

He's such a buffoon that he couldn't do any harm and no one would pay any attention to him at all.

All madness.

And pumped up and brought to the fore by the DNC.

Thanks guys.

re: #166 Intrepid

Gee, what a shocka, more "distractions" from the great uniter.Talk about scraping.

re: #170 Daisy

Not even his everlasting hair plugs? :)

Oh, wow. See, people in here are always catching the angles that I've overlooked. Good point.

re: #159 Thanos

Alphabet code for "HH" and "AH" respectively, you can figure out the rest.

I'm glad they got these sunsabitches, I knew those lowlifes would be up to something like this. It's about the worst thing that could happen.

Whoops, correction -- 14 is for the 14 words, not AH. You can google it, I won't post here.

I'd like to suggest that everyone take a moment to think (as in good) about the brave men and women in law enforcement. Specifically the Secret Service, FBI, U.S. Marshall Service and - yes - the ATF.

Whatever the outcome of the election, they are sure to face challenges and outright threats to their well being.

re: #122 goddessoftheclassroom

doriangrey and I got together...

LOL!

Just gotta phone call. Gotta run to a meeting!
MWAH!
{goddess}

Seems more like what a Kos kid would do. Remember, Nazis are another branch of socialism. They are the politically opposite of us conservatives.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What was the Poe story about the man who bricked up his wife in the basement?

/just askin'
/nope, nothin' at all to do with saving the expense of burial later

The Black Cat

The federal authorities did an excellent job of apprehending these skinhead assholes and throwing them in jail - where they belong.

re: #172 Teacake!

No, he'd do harm, because our enemies would think "Let's attack, they have an idiot as a leader right now".

BBL

idiots trying to start a race war. would not be the first time this was done. what neo fascist do has nothing to do with us.

my son was shot at by a matt hale fascist but the left will blame american conservatives when we have nothing to do with it.

So it wasn't even an actual foiled plot but nazi nerd fantasies not realized. Wow, that's BIG news!

Which will get the news-play:

"Obama claimed The Constitution has a "Blind Spot" regarding redistribution of wealth.

"Skin Heads plot to murder blacks and Obama."

/like I have no idea..............

re: #97 buzzsawmonkey

The point is, right now we don't have any details. Whether by design or not, this is prone to get some people whipped into a paranoid frenzy. If it turns out to be a couple of teenage nutters, the damage will have been done. I, for one, am going to desist from trying to fill in the blanks here (starting now).

re: #161 cblesz

drinking early?

At least no one takes Biden seriously. And there's no Biden cult of personality.

Biden is just a lying politician. We've had many before. Barack is something else.

re: #60 The Shadow Do

It's a mistake to not take any of these nutters seriously. Think Allen Berg.

I was within 10 feet of one of Eric Rudolf's bombs—two people ultimately died from it a few minutes later. By the time it went off, I was on a bus out of town and didn't find out about it until the next day. Stupid people can be very dangerous.

re: #179 FIVEOFNINE

Seems more like what a Kos kid would do. Remember, Nazis are another branch of socialism. They are the politically opposite of us conservatives.

It's such a good thing to point out. National Socialism is a Leftist concept... In all reality these guys are probably for wealth redistribution.

The only I hate more than Illinois Nazis are Tennessee Nazis. You know, they took that "Aryan purity" thing a bit too far when they started marrying their first-cousins.

I have always refused to be any part of these asshole's philosophy. No big deal there. Any citizen should be abhorred of the antics of these bastards of society.

But if the press is going to call them right-wing extremist then I will have huge of a problem swallowing that garbage.

I want to see Obama defeated by a fair, and proper election, not by a bunch of thugs. If this had gone forward, we'd have to deal with him as a martyr (just like JFK). It took decades for people to look at JFK's presidency with any clarity.

We haven't got decades to deal with the socialism that Obama wants to inflict upon us. I hope they throw the book at the idiots who thought this was a good idea.

re: #182 Racer X

The federal authorities did an excellent job of apprehending these skinhead assholes and throwing them in jail - where they belong.

For a very, very, long time.

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

just drugs buzz..just drugs

OT, from Hillbuzz:

# sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am

Ok, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.

I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.

I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.

The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.

We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”

We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.

We did this the whole primary and it worked.

Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.

This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.

Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.

People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”

Thats the intention. To make you feel stressed and crazy and feel like the world is ending.

We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15 points ahead.

see, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner, go with the flow, become “sheeple”

The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple.

Our donors, are the same people who finance the MSM. Their interests are tied, Barack then tends to come across as teflon. Nothing sticks. And trust, there were meetings with Fox news. The goal was to blunt them as much as possible. Watch Bill Oreilly he has become much more diplomatic and “fair and balanced” and soft. Its because he wants to retain the #1 spot on cable news and to do that he has to have access to the Obama campaign and we worked hard at stringing him a long and keeping him soft for an interview swap. It worked and now he is anticipating more access. So he is playing it still soft.

This is why nothing sticks.

The operation is massive, the goal is to paint a picture that is that of a winner, regardless of the results.

There is no true inauguration draft or true grant park construction going on. There will be a party, but we are boasting beyond the truth to make it seem like the election is wrapped up.

Our goal is to continue to make you lose your moral. We worked hard at persuasion and paying off and timing and playing the right political numbers to get key republican endorsements to make it seem even more like it was over and the world was coming to an end for you all.

There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.

The truth is here. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

Continued in next post...

re: #142 Teacake!

Only dif is, skin heads go to jail, lefties are given professor jobs.

Where they rally their students to give the vote to the inmates.

re: #179 FIVEOFNINE

Seems more like what a Kos kid would do. Remember, Nazis are another branch of socialism. They are the politically opposite of us conservatives.

I would wager that if these guys are registered they are Libertarian or Dems.

re: #194 mattm

For a very, very, long time.

And with iron-pumping African-American cellmates.

re: #186 IslandLibertarian

Ooooh! I know! Pick me! Pick me! Skin head plot.

More from Hillbuzz:

I am saying this because I know HRC was better for the country, and now realize this. I was too late by the time I connected to her. To me Barack was just a cool young dude that seemed like a star. I didn’t know him or his policies, but now I understand more than I care to and I realize his interests are more for him, and the DNC and all working like puppets with dean. I always thought a president wanted the better good for the country. The end result I see is everyone dependent on the government, this means more and more people voting for the DNC. This means the future is forever altered. I don’t see this as america, so I am now supporting John Mccain.

Sarah Palin is a huge threat, and our campaign has feared her like you can’t imagine. If it seems unfair how she has been treated, well its because she has had a team working round the clock to make her look like a fool.

this is a big conspiracy and I am so shocked that its not realized.

We released a little blurb the other day that the Obama campaign was already working on reelection and now putting our efforts towards 2012. This was to make it seem like it was above us to continue caring about 2008. Trust me, its a lie. David is very smart, but its a sticky ugly not very truthful kind of intelligence.

Its not over yet, but I think the machine is working. And its a hill to climb.

I will be quitting my post on nov 5th and my vote will be for John Mccain. Fortunately, my position has been a marketing position and I don’t feel I had any part of anything I would feel guilty for. But I look forward to getting out of this as the negativity and environment upsets me.

I wish you all well, and goodluck.

PS my name is not really sarah. but I am a female and I understand your plight.

Guy walks into a gun store, hands the clerk a note: Give me all your stuff, I have a gub....

Are the hamsters having problems today? Slow, pages hang up, sometimes LGF times out, not page etc.

re: #166 Intrepid

Hillary Clinton Forum w/link reports that this happened back in August and was reported on then.

Someone put this back out there in order to get the LAT/withheld tape and Obama interview/"wealth redistribution stories derailed.

Looks to be a new batch of skinhead assholes were recently apprehended.

Not the same story.

re: #88 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What was the Poe story about the man who bricked up his wife in the basement?

/just askin'
/nope, nothin' at all to do with saving the expense of burial later

There were two; Cask of Amontillado and The Black Cat

Decided to have the budgie put down, have we?

re: #204 Walter L. Newton

Are the hamsters having problems today? Slow, pages hang up, sometimes LGF times out, not page etc.

+ 2

re: #204 Walter L. Newton

Are the hamsters having problems today? Slow, pages hang up, sometimes LGF times out, not page etc.

same for me

We talk with Northwestern University Children and Family Justice Center Director Bernardine Dohrn about the anniversary of a landmark case which established juvenile's Constitutional rights.

Just found the above on the WBEZ site from an earlier thread. 2-6-2007.

[Link: www.law.northwestern.edu...]

The above link show that Dohrn is the director and "clinical associate director" whatever that is. Just looking into it now. Listening to the broadcast as I'm writing.

re: #204 Walter L. Newton

Are the hamsters having problems today? Slow, pages hang up, sometimes LGF times out, not page etc.

Seems intermittent... like there's a blockage upstream, maybe?

re: #208 Conservative in Liberal Hands

+ 2

I'm having bad issues.

re: #209 loppyd

same for me

Has Charles mentioned anything about this?

re: #87 Intrepid

Crockett County - that's about 100 miles northeast of Memphis.

And the heart of Yellow Dog Democrat country.

/knowingly repeats self

re: #211 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Seems intermittent... like there's a blockage upstream, maybe?

Maybe the hamsters need more fiber in their diet?

re: #197 doppelganglander

Who was that woman last week who said Palin is an embarrassment to women etc etc and that she wouldnt be back.

re: #209 loppyd

same for me

me too Loppyd.. Seems we have a busy evening going on..

re: #186 IslandLibertarian

Which will get the news-play:

"Obama claimed The Constitution has a "Blind Spot" regarding redistribution of wealth.

"Skin Heads plot to murder blacks and Obama."

/like I have no idea..............

/OBAMA: Constitution 'reflected fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day'

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

Has Charles mentioned anything about this?

Not that I know of - but I have been in and out while making dinner.

(loppyd's cure-all chicken soup)

re: #209 loppyd

same for me

Same here. I've been trying to post about this story for an hour. I'm giving up altogether on spin-off links.

re: #205 Racer X

Looks to be a new batch of skinhead assholes were recently apprehended.

Not the same story.

Check. They got it wrong too. My bad.

re: #217 HoosierHoops

me too Loppyd.. Seems we have a busy evening going on..

{Hooooooosier Daddy}!

Wasssup?

re: #219 loppyd

Not that I know of - but I have been in and out while making dinner. (loppyd's cure-all chicken soup)

Are you sick?

re: #214 Son of the Black Dog

And the heart of Yellow Dog Democrat country.

/knowingly repeats self

Ass ... you think because someone is a yellow dog they would do something like that ......yellow dog does not mean murderer .....

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

Are you sick?

Nope, but the BF needs some TLC. Having a hard time....

Breaking:
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]
Fairfax Registrar must count military ballots.

Have fun in prison, idiots.

I wonder if the MSM will give this more attention than all of the Bush assassination talk coming from the moonbats over the last few years? Hell, who am I kidding. This will fit just perfectly in the 'racist Amerikkka' theme they are developing in preparation for an Obama loss. Not only does it give the left a convenient excuse on which to blame the loss, it will set the stage for future campaigns. "Don't want more race riots? Vote for Obama in 2012"

re: #89 lgfvidz

Right. So, the ATF is in cahoots with the Obama campaign. Gotcha.

Under an Obama presidency, the size and power of the ATF would increase exponentially.

DAMNIT!

I! FUCKING! HATE! NAZIS!
Here's a DK cover for you nazi assholes!

And robbing a gun store? How I wish this story had ended in a spectacular Darwin Award to beat all Darwin Awards.

_{Sorry for the mini-rant, I'll totally understand if this gets deleted.}

re: #223 loppyd

{Hooooooosier Daddy}!

Wasssup?

It's all about you Loppyd..Kind regards...
Hope you get feeling better

re: #171 mattm
they had a sawed of shot gun

This is NOT the same mess of inbreds who were arrested in Denver in August.

The right-wing blogosphere is alive right now with rumors that this is just a resurrection of the August story, recycled by the usual suspects to help Obama.

This foolishness apparently originates from Free Republic, where some nitwit posted pics of the August perps, with no link or explanation, and others quickly assumed they were the same as today's perps. This was helped along by the notorious inability of Freepers to post links. Again, THIS IS NOT THE SAME ALLEGED PLOT OR THE SAME PERPS.

re: #216 Eowyn2

Who was that woman last week who said Palin is an embarrassment to women etc etc and that she wouldnt be back.

Here or at Hillbuzz? I really don't recall such a post.

re: #219 loppyd

(loppyd's cure-all chicken soup)

Could you make extra, please, for the economy?

re: #231 HoosierHoops

It's all about you Loppyd..Kind regards...
Hope you get feeling better

I'm not sick...well, I guess that could be disputed. LOL

But thanks just the same!

re: #189 David IV of Georgia

I was within 10 feet of one of Eric Rudolf's bombs—two people ultimately died from it a few minutes later. By the time it went off, I was on a bus out of town and didn't find out about it until the next day. Stupid people can be very dangerous.

AGREED my son was shot at by one of MATT HALES flunkies the nazi murdered 2 and wounded 10

re: #102 zombie

I seriously doubt they would have even gotten past step one. Robbing a gun store -- when you yourself do not yet have a gun -- is complete idiocy, and if they had tried, they probably would have not survived the attempt. Which is fine by me.

/sarc

I completely agree with your overall assessment, but they did have guns. FTA:

Agents seized a rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and three pistols from the men when they were arrested.

re: #234 doppelganglander

Here or at Hillbuzz? I really don't recall such a post.

I remember something like that here, but can't remember the nic or the thread.

re: #235 arethusa

Could you make extra, please, for the economy?

We're going to need a bigger pot.

/lame Jaws reference

re: #227 welshgirl

Breaking:
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]
Fairfax Registrar must count military ballots.

Excellent!

Suspect Paul Schlesselman's MySpace page.

NSFW, seriously diseased filth here. Don't say you weren't warned.

Bill Ayres would understand their thinking.

re: #230 Slumbering Behemoth

DAMNIT!

I! FUCKING! HATE! NAZIS!
Here's a DK cover for you nazi assholes!

And robbing a gun store? How I wish this story had ended in a spectacular Darwin Award to beat all Darwin Awards.

_{Sorry for the mini-rant, I'll totally understand if this gets deleted.}

I remember a story, might have been on Darwin Awards, of a guy who walks around a police car to enter a gun store that also has training on the premises for carrying concealed handguns. The store is crowded. He pulls a gun out and announces that he is robbing the store. He was shot by seven different guns, IIRC.

re: #239 arethusa

I remember something like that here, but can't remember the nic or the thread.

It sounds like a troll anyway. Wait, are you all thinking of annefrance? The holder of the all-time downding championship?

re: #236 loppyd

I'm not sick...well, I guess that could be disputed. LOL

But thanks just the same!

Well good..so many people have been posting about colds..
and you fixing chicken soup..
Are you watching the Colts tonight or the world series?

re: #227 welshgirl

Breaking:
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]
Fairfax Registrar must count military ballots.

Victory!

(for now anyway - waiting for the appeal)

re: #229 Son of the Black Dog

Under an Obama presidency, the size and power of the ATF would increase exponentially.

Bush took Crockett County in 2004 and Corker took Crockett County maybe you need to get your facts straight .....

[Link: www.epodunk.com...]

Obama Versus Fox News (Part 534)
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

While Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., has been waging war on the New York Times specifically and the larger Mainstream Media born in general, his rival Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has his media boogieman as well.

Ever since Fox News’ answer to the Algonquin – Fox & Friends – spread the falsehood that Obama is a Muslim educated in a madrassa back in 2007, Obama and his campaign have had a complicated relationship with the “fair and balanced” cable news channel.

Over the Summer, Obama met with Fox News chieftain Roger Ailes and News Corps CEO Rupert Murdoch.

A truce, as it were.

Obama made appearances on Fox News Sunday in April and even agreed to an interview with Bill O’Reilly last month.

But lately the relationship has been showing evidence of strains.

Today, the Obama campaign criticized the new attack from McCain specifically by trying to discredit it through two of the media sources that first broke the news of the 2001 radio interview McCain is attacking.

"This is a fake news controversy drummed up by the all too common alliance of Fox News, the Drudge Report and John McCain, who apparently decided to close out his campaign with the same false, desperate attacks that have failed for months,” said Obama spox Bill Burton.
Obama campaign manager David Plouffe recently said that "Fox News Channel is turning themselves into the 24-hour ACORN channel."

In the third and final presidential debate, Obama said of McCain’s claim that Obama voted for a tax increase for people making $42,000 a year, “Even FOX News disputes it, and that doesn't happen very often when it comes to accusations about me. “

Earlier this month, Obama was quoted in Matt Bai's New York Times Magazine piece about Obama’s efforts to court working-class white voters saying, "I am convinced that if there were no Fox News, I might be two or three points higher in the polls. If I were watching Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me, right? Because the way I'm portrayed 24/7 is as a freak! I am the latte-sipping, New York Times-reading, Volvo-driving, no-gun-owning, effete, politically correct, arrogant liberal. Who wants somebody like that?

"I guess the point I'm making," he went on, "is that there is an entire industry now, an entire apparatus, designed to perpetuate this cultural schism, and it's powerful. People want to know that you're fighting for them, that you get them. And I actually think I do. But you know, if people are just seeing me in sound bites, they're not going to discover that. That's why I say that some of that may have to happen after the election, when they get to know you."

The thing that seems curious to me is that I would imagine that the USSS deals with many threats to both campaigns.

I may be wrong on this but I believe the current strategy is not to publicize it so as to not encourage copycats.

So why and how does this plot go public?

re: #246 HoosierHoops

Well good..so many people have been posting about colds..
and you fixing chicken soup..
Are you watching the Colts tonight or the world series?

It will be a back and forth....I'm rooting for Philly and Tennessee.

re: #237 yochanan

AGREED my son was shot at by one of MATT HALES flunkies the nazi murdered 2 and wounded 10

What bugs me, haunts me, is that I saw the bomb, a green backpack sitting by the speaker tower abandoned and thought, "That's strange." but kept walking—I was late for the bus...

re: #227 welshgirl

Breaking:
[Link: www.humanevents.com...]
Fairfax Registrar must count military ballots.

Yes! Finally a ruling for America!

re: #250 unclassifiable

The thing that seems curious to me is that I would imagine that the USSS deals with many threats to both campaigns.

I may be wrong on this but I believe the current strategy is not to publicize it so as to not encourage copycats.

So why and how does this plot go public?

Excellent question.

Hopefully the USSS is asking that question of some DC bureaucrats at this very moment...

BRB

Gosh, watching the local news (Sarah's in town) Biden's even pissed at our little po-dunk town reporter. Guy's fuse getting a little short.

Obama turns into Biden on basketball court?

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh, watching the local news (Sarah's in town) Biden's even pissed at our little po-dunk town reporter. Guy's fuse getting a little short.

Let him blow. There's nothing in that head that's going to hurt anything.

ZOMBIE - how's your NY mission going?

re: #245 doppelganglander

Wait, are you all thinking of annefrance? The holder of the all-time downding championship?

I still don't consider her as a true troll. She was someone from another culture that wanted to stimulate debate and didn't understand how it works here. Shame, really.

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gosh, watching the local news (Sarah's in town) Biden's even pissed at our little po-dunk town reporter. Guy's fuse getting a little short.

What's you po-dunk CQ?

re: #215 CIA Reject

Maybe the hamsters need more fiber in their diet?

More Hamster Chow! Actually, LGF, like any other website is dependent upon a lot of people who work for TelCo's monitoring and making sure that their equipment is running as it should.

Sometime, for kicks, (if you are on a Window's platform) run a little command line script called Tracert.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:>tracert littlegreenfootballs.com

Tracing route to littlegreenfootballs.com [66.228.122.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * *
2 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms ge-2-14-ur01.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68
.86.116.1]
3 15 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-8-3-ur02.elmhurst.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.
87.230.86]
4 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms te-8-3-ar01.area4.il.chicago.comcast.net [68.87.
231.61]
5 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms pos-0-13-0-0-cr01.chicago.il.ibone.comcast.net [
68.86.90.53]
6 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms TenGigabitEthernet2-3.ar5.CHI1.gblx.net [64.209.
88.253]
7 56 ms 56 ms 56 ms te1-1.cer03.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [64.215.
81.2]
8 72 ms 71 ms 72 ms po3.dar02.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.11
8.211]
9 71 ms 71 ms 71 ms po2.fcr01.dal01.dallas-datacenter.com [66.228.11
8.158]
10 55 ms 61 ms 55 ms 66.228.122.13-static.reverse.softlayer.com [66.2
28.122.13]

Trace complete.

C:>