I am open to Monday afternoons.

There will be no open threads under the Obama regime.

Monday Afternoon Open

In an Obama Regime this would be MAO.

Obsession, the dvd, has been on a long wait at Netflix. I'm getting it this week! Yippee!

Dow closed below 8300 today. That's a bad sign.
The One will bring us to None.
The market smells it.

The AP's calling the race even, with mccain up in florida.

Monday Monday, so good to me- but BO will be the end of freedom I foreseeeeeee.

Clintons have been awful quiet of late.

re: #2 bosforus

There will be no open threads under the Obama regime.

Or maybe it's all we'll be left with.

re: #9 Russkilitlover

Clintons have been awful quiet of late.

re: #10 bosforus

I'll have no money to buy new threads man- not groovy at all dude!

Did anyone catch this story? SICK!

Effigy of Palin Hanging by Noose is Halloween Fun, Owner Says

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

Is there any lizard in New Mexico who could go out and get some copies of the New Mexico Sun News? It has a headline "Obama Wins!" (It's a biweekly.)

Might be useful if there's a Dewey Defeats Truman moment.

Come Monday it'll be alright.

re: #6 witness

Dow closed below 8300 today. That's a bad sign.
The One will bring us to None.
The market smells it.

The markets don't like uncertainty. And there is a lot of that going around right now. They don't like presidential elections, either. I expect them to settle down after Nov 5th and they'll take a wait and see attitude when either McCain or BHO is in and what direction the new Pres will go.

re: #12 LEGION

I'll have no money to buy new threads man- not groovy at all dude!

Obama will take care of all your needs. In fact, he'll even define what your needs are.

Under Obama...

...each thread must be equally open. To spread the openess around.

re: #17 bosforus

Obama will take care of all your needs. In fact, he'll even define what your needs are.

To each according to his need; from each according to his ability.

re: #18 Silhouette

Under Obama...

...each thread must be equally open. To spread the openess around.

You mean we'll have to let in trolls and be nice to them?

cactus? cactus?

re: #16 Russkilitlover

Probably a post election bounce, but January reports of bad Xmas sales will cause more selling. If BHO wins there could be huge cap-gains selling before year end to avoid his tax hikes.

Under Obama...

...any comments questioni [deleted]

/user blocked.
/what user? There was no user here. Move along.

Ahhh, a little fresh air...

Delusionism

The theory of government that you are going to get your fair share of stuff when everyone else stops making stuff.

I swear to God, this one idiot at work is causing me to develope Tourrette's Syndrome

re: #20 arethusa

He means Charles will have to remove the minus button.

I won't repost the entire thing from the last thread, but I urge you to go to Hillbuzz and read this comment by sarah p. She is purportedly an Obama campaign staffer, and she has grown a conscience (which she unfortunately spells conscious, but I'll let it slide). Basically, everything we've been saying here is true.

re: #27 unclassifiable

He means Charles will have to remove the minus button.

And replace it with a doubleplusgood button.

Shame less self promotion - FOR DENVER AREA LIZARDS - Press release.

Theatre Guild continues The New Venture Series
FREE Staged Readings of New Work by Colorado Playwrights

“Appearances”
by Walter L. Newton

Directed by Rick Bernstein

(Denver, CO) On Wednesday, November 12 the Colorado Theatre Guild presents the next installment in an ongoing free staged reading series showcasing new works by Colorado playwrights. "Appearances" by Walter L. Newton will be presented in a staged reading directed by Rick Bernstein (Artistic Director of Miners Alley Playhouse) at the Miners Alley Playhouse, 1224 Washington Avenue (Downtown Golden -Corner of 13th & Washington - 2nd Floor) on Wednesday, November 12 at 7:30 p.m.

"Stephan is a successful, 50 year old prosecuting attorney for the city of Chicago. He returns from the funeral of his mother with a valise and the hope that its contents will answer some questions about his deceased father. What it does reveal is that his father is alive and has been serving a life sentence in the state prison. And the reason he is in jail shakes the very core of his entire family. He discovers that what appears to be reality can quickly be shattered by family secrets. "

Adapted by Walter L. Newton from Joanne Greenberg's newest novel. Just as Greenberg dealt with schizophrenia in her book "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden," she returns once again to a difficult social and medical issue and offers her amazing insight into the human condition." In 2004, Newton’s adaptation of Joanne Greenberg's "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden" received 3 nominations for the Post's Ovations Award including Best New Play.

“Appearances” is presented FREE to the public and will be followed by a talkback with the author and cast which includes Rick Bernstein, Paige Lynn Larson and Laura Norman.

Wednesday, November 12 7:30 p.m.
Miners Alley Playhouse, 1224 Washington Avenue
(Corner of 13th & Washington - 2nd Floor)
TICKETS: FREE, no reservations required
[Link: www.coloradotheatreguild.org...]

If you can make it, give me the secret Lizard high sign and I'll buy you a drink.

I'm wondering how the Israeli elections will be affected by the American results. Or if they will be at all. Would a McCain win favor Bibi?

re: #9 Russkilitlover

Clintons have been awful quiet of late.

Quiet like termites.

Wow. I just got the following from an Obama supporter with whom I correspond on occasion. I guess he thought it would "change" (drink!) my mind. Notice the utter contempt for anything that is not part of the worldview of the "elites":

Dear Red States:

We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty and Empire State Building. You get Dollywood. We get Apple, Intel, Cisco and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Yale. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama. We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You now get to make the red states pay their fair share. Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms. Please be aware that New California will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their children's caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire.
With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America's quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 990 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.
Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals then we lefties.

Ayers finally speaks: Time for GOP to get over it

re: #25 unclassifiable

Mushroom Theory of Government (aka Obamaism): Feed them shit, keep them in the dark, and...well, that's it.

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I swear to God, this one idiot at work is causing me to develope Tourrette's Syndrome

Take a deeeep breath - let it out slowly - relax - don't give that person that much control over your life!

re: #30 Walter L. Newton

Cool!

re: #30 Walter L. Newton

Congratulations. I loved "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden" -- I read it when I was probably 12 or 13. I was a weird child.

So this will be a little personal ancient history and I’ll try to give you the Reader’s Digest version so I don’t bore any lizards to tears. I was widowed in 1974. I never remarried. I had four children under the age of seven. They went to a school system in NJ that in 1973 was about to lose their accreditation for the high school. My kids went there, and because they WANTED an education, and in spite of a poor system were all admitted to state colleges and universities, primarily Rutgers University.

Each one of those kids lived in college dorms their first year. Then they elected to move back home and commute (we only lived 8 miles from Rutgers). I opened the doors up again, took a freezer plan to put more food in the house. Between each one of those kids, and my efforts, we put a small down payment from the remaining college savings on a new car in my name for each (down payment would have been equal to the next year’s dorm fees). The arrangement between my kids and me was that when they got a degree beginning with the letter “B”, the car would be theirs, no strings. At one point I was making three car payments on a job that only paid a supervisor’s salary.

Once the kids had transportation, they found part-time jobs (some had two or three). Two kids took out student loans for only about $2K to $3K total for each. They paid their own personal expenses, car insurance and co-pays for their health care under my insurance. One daughter who got her BA degree in 1990 actually kept her 1987 Mustang until 1996.

My point is that education is about the student buying into it. It isn’t a handout. I’m so darn lucky that every one of my four kids bought into their own education. They didn’t expect me or the gubmint to entitle that for them. Who are these little darlings today that think they’re going to earn the big bucks with the attitude about learning that they have? Another daughter had her resume professionally printed up two weeks after getting her BA degree and said, “don’t worry, Ma, I’ve been to the university and I already know who the competition is, and I’ll get the job”. She sure did. And she was the one to buy her own home at age 24.

So, screw throwing more taxes to the “education” system. When are these educators going to realize that until the child buys into their own education and works to make it happen for themselves, instead of some “community organizer” or elitist professor, that nothing will change for them?

Thanks for listening to Grandma on another lovely Carolina evening, and have a nice day.

Since this is an open topic...

Has anyone noticed the "new" VW ads featuring Brooke Shields? Creepy, huh? She espouses about getting pregnant for "German engineering". Given Germany's rather dark history with eugenics and encouraging women getting pregnant for the Reich, this ad campaign is a bit sordid.

Sound off please...

re: #14 arethusa

Is there any lizard in New Mexico who could go out and get some copies of the New Mexico Sun News? It has a headline "Obama Wins!" (It's a biweekly.)

Might be useful if there's a Dewey Defeats Truman moment.

Hmmm, My husband said that very same thing the other day.
I would sooo love that!

re: #30 Walter L. Newton

Aaagh. Boy, I wish I could go see that. Sounds good.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

Ah yes. But we here in the "red states" have all the guns, so anything that you have, we can take if we want, and there's nothing you can do about it. LOL

ps- just kidding.
pps- you can keep Hollywood.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

Your "friend" is an asshole.

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ayers finally speaks: Time for GOP to get over it

I just want 5 minutes alone with him.

re: #40 Bubbaman

Since this is an open topic...

Has anyone noticed the "new" VW ads featuring Brooke Shields? Creepy, huh? She espouses about getting pregnant for "German engineering". Given Germany's rather dark history with eugenics and encouraging women getting pregnant for the Reich, this ad campaign is a bit sordid.

Sound off please...

That one is very odd. We just kinda shook our heads and looked curiously at each other, trying to see if the other got it. It is creepy, and well, stupid also.

re: #34 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ayers finally speaks: Time for GOP to get over it

Fuck him.

re: #14 arethusa

I'm way down south in Las Cruces. I'll keep my eyes open, but no promises.

re: #30 Walter L. Newton
Congrats. Very nice write up.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

Actually, it sounds like a pretty good deal, if you add on that they'll never ever try to abridge my freedoms again.

Deconstructing The Power of the Global Elite

By Judith Young
October, 2008

"In the aftermath of Congressional approval of bailout legislation granting sweeping powers to the financial elite, the body politic appears to be helplessly mired in the relentless unfolding of classical fascism before its very eyes. Coming to terms with this terrifying predicament can benefit from a primer that renders naked the forms of raw power used by the global elite in advancing its agenda for full spectrum dominance. This will enable us to determine if we are in fact helpless and to use care and deliberation in finding the means to take our power back.
...
As our best minds address the hair raising elitist victory represented by the bailout legislation, I encourage their deconstructing just how this criminality managed to succeed by tracing its origins in history in terms of the threefold model of power given in this article. In my own view, the current crisis is a crisis in the Chinese sense of the term, i.e., an opportunity in disguise. Because the crisis is rightly perceived as a conflict between Wall Street and Main Street, as an incongruence between the actions of government and the political will and best interest of its constituents, and more generally as a power grab by authoritarian capitalism that is in full daylight for all to examine, it is an opportunity like no other for educating the populace. It is an opportunity like no other to awaken and educate the people so they are no longer sitting ducks for the three forms of power delineated in this article. Especially the third: history abounds with examples of how the first two forms of power lose their hold, indeed in many cases back off, when confronted with a people who value the quality of life over life on any terms, a people who will go to any lengths to protect their basic rights as human beings.

It is that spirit that infused the birth and early life of our Republic. I am betting that it is still alive and well in America."

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Judith H. Young, Ph.D., has a B.A. and an M.A. in Philosophy and a doctorate in Political Science (Brandeis University, 1973). In the 1960s she was a published think tank researcher with a Top Secret security clearance in the areas of arms control, strategic studies and international aerospace activities. In 1973-74 she taught International Politics at Mount Holyoke University in Massachusetts.

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re: #33 reine.de.tout

I guess I am having a hard time seeing past the upside to this. Here's one thing they forgot. We get practically all of the military personnel -- probably through emigration out of New California (no sense going were there is no work). By default we'll get whatever the hell we want:)

re: #28 doppelganglander

I won't repost the entire thing from the last thread, but I urge you to go to Hillbuzz and read this comment by sarah p. She is purportedly an Obama campaign staffer, and she has grown a conscience (which she unfortunately spells conscious, but I'll let it slide). Basically, everything we've been saying here is true.

Whether this is true or not, It's a great reminder that we should not get discouraged nor back down from what we know to be forthright and true. Keet the faith and keep fighting the good fight, Lizards!

re: #36 reine.de.tout

Take a deeeep breath - let it out slowly - relax - don't give that person that much control over your life!

Its more of a case of WTF is wrong with the guy. I spend 2 hours this morning calmly going over some problems the guy has had submitting work requests, the guy seems very understanding, asks questions, we go over the details and everything he needs to fix. 20 minutes ago, he resubmits everything with no changes made at all and then, when they get rejected, he asks what was wrong with them.

I'm just forwarding everything to my manager. The guy has developed a real reputation for this kind of crap.

re: #31 Moe Katz

I'm wondering how the Israeli elections will be affected by the American results. Or if they will be at all. Would a McCain win favor Bibi?

I think the elections wouldn't be till February or March - it's up to Peres. So it might not only be affected by who wins here, but by how that person behaves the first few weeks on office (I would bet an Obama win favors Netanyahu).

A poll in Israel has McCain up by 12, btw.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

That picture changes quite a bit if your friend looks at the voting county-by-county. The blue cities get mouths to feed, and the red counties get the farmland.

re: #42 wolfie

Aaagh. Boy, I wish I could go see that. Sounds good.

I thought you were local? Busy that night?

re: #43 gop_patriot

GMTA!

re: #43 gop_patriot

Ah yes. But we here in the "red states" have all the guns, so anything that you have, we can take if we want, and there's nothing you can do about it. LOL

ps- just kidding.
pps- you can keep Hollywood.

Those were exactly my two thoughts reading that post.

re: #14 arethusa

I've never seen that paper but Albuquerque has a large office for 'Democrats for McCain'...I was by it the other day and there seemed to be alot of activity around it...and lots of McCain stuff around here...it might be close

re: #45 doppelganglander

As a matter of fact New California will have 100% of the assholes which cancels out any benefit.

re: #28 doppelganglander

I won't repost the entire thing from the last thread, but I urge you to go to Hillbuzz and read this comment by sarah p. She is purportedly an Obama campaign staffer, and she has grown a conscience (which she unfortunately spells conscious, but I'll let it slide). Basically, everything we've been saying here is true.

If this is true, it is time to start the counterinsurgency.

Obama is a socialist and the 2001 interview proves it. The American people will turn on him Nov. 4th. It is going to be a McCain landslide.

McCain/Palin 2008!

re: #56 arethusa

I think the elections wouldn't be till February or March - it's up to Peres. So it might not only be affected by who wins here, but by how that person behaves the first few weeks on office (I would bet an Obama win favors Netanyahu).

A poll in Israel has McCain up by 12, btw.

Good points. We'd have to see what their attitude to Israel was once in office.

I have yet another girl crush to admit....

Megyn Kelly kicks a** and takes names.

Video: Megyn Kelly, Obama spokesman go nuclear over Fox News and the Obama tape

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I swear to God, this one idiot at work is causing me to develope Tourrette's Syndrome

Must be one of my brothers.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

My response to the sod would be something like this;

Yes, you have all that.

We have;

87% of the arable land.
91% of the grain crops.
85% of the vegetable crops.
96% of the legumes and root crops. (That's "peanuts" and "potatoes" to you.)
97% of the heavy industry.
91% of the mineral resources.
69% of the working-age population.

and

100% of the people who aren't busy despising their fellow Americans for not being leftover radicals from the Days of Rage.

You may be boutique America, but we're that part that does the actual work. If you want to know how well you'll be able to function without us- study Japan very, very carefully. Because you're about to become an island nation, like them. The difference is, in their case, it was a decision made by nature several billion years ago. In your case, it'll be your own fault.

And BTW- can you fix everything in your (no doubt expensive) house or car without help?

We have most of the schools that teach people to do that sort of thing, too.

cheers

eon

re: #62 unclassifiable

As a matter of fact New California will have 100% of the assholes which cancels out any benefit.

New California will quickly fall to the Ever Victorious Amry of Kragaristan, due to us actually having guns and the will to use them.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

i guess if they get Louis Farrakhan and all the abortion clinics too it's a fair deal.

re: #25 unclassifiable

Delusionism

The theory of government that you are going to get your fair share of stuff when everyone else stops making stuff.

Here is the 2007 winning entry, from an annual contest at Texas A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term.

This year's term was "Political Correctness."

The winning definition: "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end."
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re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

New California will probably expect a fight from New America and all they'll get is a thank you note.

re: #67 eon

My response to the sod would be something like this;

Yes, you have all that.

We have;

87% of the arable land.
91% of the grain crops.
85% of the vegetable crops.
96% of the legumes and root crops. (That's "peanuts" and "potatoes" to you.)
97% of the heavy industry.
91% of the mineral resources.
69% of the working-age population.

and

100% of the people who aren't busy despising their fellow Americans for not being leftover radicals from the Days of Rage.

You may be boutique America, but we're that part that does the actual work. If you want to know how well you'll be able to function without us- study Japan very, very carefully. Because you're about to become an island nation, like them. The difference is, in their case, it was a decision made by nature several billion years ago. In your case, it'll be your own fault.

And BTW- can you fix everything in your (no doubt expensive) house or car without help?

We have most of the schools that teach people to do that sort of thing, too.

cheers

eon

Great stuff!
thanks.

re: #65 loppyd

I have yet another girl crush to admit....

Megyn Kelly kicks a** and takes names.

Video: Megyn Kelly, Obama spokesman go nuclear over Fox News and the Obama tape

Wow, I like her, too. She dont no crap from that weenie. And as for the weenie, what an a-hole. He has sold his soul to the devil.

re: #40 Bubbaman

Since this is an open topic...

Has anyone noticed the "new" VW ads featuring Brooke Shields? Creepy, huh? She espouses about getting pregnant for "German engineering". Given Germany's rather dark history with eugenics and encouraging women getting pregnant for the Reich, this ad campaign is a bit sordid.

Sound off please...

I love those ads..they are really funny..hey it's just a commercial..
It cracks the Hoopster up.. Plus Brooke is Hot...I tease my wife about it..
We both know that my wife is hotter than Brooke...But it's all in fun.
It's hard to read too much into a car commercial..

re: #33 reine.de.tout

And while they're at it, they can offer a state to the Fakestinians.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

Wow. I just got the following from an Obama supporter with whom I correspond on occasion. I guess he thought it would "change" (drink!) my mind. Notice the utter contempt for anything that is not part of the worldview of the "elites":

Gee, why are they separating from this country? Isn't it safe now that the Messiah will inevitably become president? Why worry about it? I mean, unless it's not . . . inevitable.

re: #4 solomonpanting

Yes, new from the DNC and Puriana--it's Barry's "Mao Mix". It's not nourishing and tastes equally bad for everyone! Get ready everyone for another spin on the Cultural Revolution!

re: #70 Tamron
Not to be outdone, my old Pop, who suffers severe dementia today would tell you, “Many so-called educated people spend their entire careers working on a new way to up-end mouse turds, as if that activity was important”.

re: #65 loppyd

I have yet another girl crush to admit....

Megyn Kelly kicks a** and takes names.

Video: Megyn Kelly, Obama spokesman go nuclear over Fox News and the Obama tape

That was excellent! Thanks!

re: #22 witness

Probably a post election bounce, but January reports of bad Xmas sales will cause more selling. If BHO wins there could be huge cap-gains selling before year end to avoid his tax hikes.

The 'Market' tends to assimilate forward risk so we are seeing the market's reaction right now to an Obama win. There will be more negative movements during the next week unless the Obamination makes a massive strategic blunder. Not holding my breath on that however as the Obamination runs the clock down and keeps his mouth shut.

Watch for a bottom around the 7000 mark or maybe a little lower. Buffet will make squillions as he snaps up blue ribbon bargains! If you are cashed up right now this is the time to secure your future for the rest of your life!

Just in case the shit REALLY hits the fan I'd be buying some gold as well. Make sure you actually get your hands on the metal itself too. Paper is just stuff made out of trees and promises to supply and pay is just vapor coming out of someone's mouth.

re: #9 Russkilitlover

Clintons have been awful quiet of late.

They were in Ky lately campaigning for Mitch McConnell's opponent.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

Ok....

What your friend does not realize is that his "Estate Bleu" Empire is wanting. Take CA for instance. The Blues have the Bay Area and LA. The rest of the state is Red. That's right, we got the food, the farms, the water, the wine, Yosemite--not to mention all the military installations.

As far as beaches go, the best are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Where, I might add is almost all the domestic oil and gas production. The Red states also produce all the coal and natural gas.

As for the east coast, again, outside the major urban (and urbane) areas, it's Red counties, again, where all the farms and food are located.

So, Blue States, go on and leave. Don't let the door hit you on the ass.

re: #30 Walter L. Newton

Shame less self promotion - FOR DENVER AREA LIZARDS - Press release.

Theatre Guild continues The New Venture Series
FREE Staged Readings of New Work by Colorado Playwrights

“Appearances”
by Walter L. Newton

Directed by Rick Bernstein

(Denver, CO) On Wednesday, November 12 the Colorado Theatre Guild presents the next installment in an ongoing free staged reading series showcasing new works by Colorado playwrights. "Appearances" by Walter L. Newton will be presented in a staged reading directed by Rick Bernstein (Artistic Director of Miners Alley Playhouse) at the Miners Alley Playhouse, 1224 Washington Avenue (Downtown Golden -Corner of 13th & Washington - 2nd Floor) on Wednesday, November 12 at 7:30 p.m.

"Stephan is a successful, 50 year old prosecuting attorney for the city of Chicago. He returns from the funeral of his mother with a valise and the hope that its contents will answer some questions about his deceased father. What it does reveal is that his father is alive and has been serving a life sentence in the state prison. And the reason he is in jail shakes the very core of his entire family. He discovers that what appears to be reality can quickly be shattered by family secrets. "

Adapted by Walter L. Newton from Joanne Greenberg's newest novel. Just as Greenberg dealt with schizophrenia in her book "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden," she returns once again to a difficult social and medical issue and offers her amazing insight into the human condition." In 2004, Newton’s adaptation of Joanne Greenberg's "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden" received 3 nominations for the Post's Ovations Award including Best New Play.

“Appearances” is presented FREE to the public and will be followed by a talkback with the author and cast which includes Rick Bernstein, Paige Lynn Larson and Laura Norman.

Wednesday, November 12 7:30 p.m.
Miners Alley Playhouse, 1224 Washington Avenue
(Corner of 13th & Washington - 2nd Floor)
TICKETS: FREE, no reservations required
[Link: www.coloradotheatreguild.org...]

If you can make it, give me the secret Lizard high sign and I'll buy you a drink.

Congrats, Walter.

re: #80 Aussie Infidel

The 'Market' tends to assimilate forward risk so we are seeing the market's reaction right now to an Obama win.

I suspected that, but since I'm an economic illiterate it's nice to see it from somebody who knows what they're talking about. Back to the Carter years if The Messiah wins, I fear. It wasn't too much fun the first time around.

re: #75 A Kiwi Infidel

And while they're at it, they can offer a state to the Fakestinians.

Well there seems plenty of 'spare states' to go around.
After all the Obamination believes that there are 57 states. We have 7 spares.

hell let's be magnanimous and give 'em two spares!

There is an Internet petition to get the LA Times to release the Khalidi video.

It just started. There are 117 signatures already. You have the option of anonymity if you so desire (it will just record your state).

(Posted this on the new thread, too.)

re: #85 buzzsawmonkey

But their rhetoric will be fearsome! They can use the conditional subjunctive!

re: #15 newsjunkie_ky

Come Monday it'll be alright.

While many think "Why Don't We Get Drunk" is Jimmy Buffet's greatest love song, I prefer "Come Monday".

re: #84 joncelli

I suspected that, but since I'm an economic illiterate it's nice to see it from somebody who knows what they're talking about. Back to the Carter years if The Messiah wins, I fear. It wasn't too much fun the first time around.

Hey Masters level finance papers were quite simple ideas wrapped up in dense jargon to keep everyone guessing and allowing the financially anointed ones a chance to charge squillions in directors' fees!

As far as the Carter comment.

Well at least you have had some practice! hehehe :)

Cubans in Miami are saying:
"Vote for Obama and go to Havana. Vote for McCain and go to Biscayne."

Just caught 5 seconds of the Zero -- he's now gesticulating wildly (pointing into the air) while shouting out his slogans -- "WE WILL.." I half expect his slogans to be followed by the audience stomping their feet and mass saluting in unison...The Zero is a Demagogue.

re: #82 calcajun

Ok....

What your friend does not realize is that his "Estate Bleu" Empire is wanting. Take CA for instance. The Blues have the Bay Area and LA. The rest of the state is Red. That's right, we got the food, the farms, the water, the wine, Yosemite--not to mention all the military installations.

As far as beaches go, the best are in Florida and along the Gulf Coast. Where, I might add is almost all the domestic oil and gas production. The Red states also produce all the coal and natural gas.

As for the east coast, again, outside the major urban (and urbane) areas, it's Red counties, again, where all the farms and food are located.

So, Blue States, go on and leave. Don't let the door hit you on the ass.

The Red States also get the U.S. Constitution, while the Blue States will draw up a new constitution centered around equality of results, such as wealth. In the long run, the red country will be a rich nation, surrounded by the poor struggling areas such as California, New York, Washington, and Oregon, who will wonder why they keep having such bad luck.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

I want to hear your reply, reine...lol

Probably best to ignore and *glare*

re: #74 HoosierHoops

I love those ads..they are really funny..hey it's just a commercial..
It cracks the Hoopster up.. Plus Brooke is Hot...I tease my wife about it..
We both know that my wife is hotter than Brooke...But it's all in fun.
It's hard to read too much into a car commercial..

Please explain the humor - I know it is supposed to be offbeat but it falls flat in my opinion and given that VW was "born" out of Nazi Germany and the Nazis had a variety of programs to promote pregnancy in exchange for money, etc. it is hard not to draw some comparisons. Imagine if Toyota had an ad campaign in the Philippines that one had to go on a long march (think Battan) for one of their cars.

Ugh. Just saw that Obama got a Steelers jersey from Dan Rooney, the team's owner, when he was in Pittsburgh today. That hurts my feelings.

re: #92 J.S.

Ahhh
All political careers end in frustration and defeat one way or the other.

Be it getting tossed on the scrap heap of history in 2012 or going down in a 'Fuhrer Bunker' type exercise

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

What the hell does that mean?

Biscayne Bay

Havana

sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am
Ok, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.

I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.

I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.

The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.

We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”

We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.

We did this the whole primary and it worked.

Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.

This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.

Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.

People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”

Thats the intention. To make you feel stressed and crazy and feel like the world is ending.

We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15 points ahead.

see, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner, go with the flow, become “sheeple”

The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple.

Our donors, are the same people who finance the MSM. Their interests are tied, Barack then tends to come across as teflon. Nothing sticks. And trust, there were meetings with Fox news. The goal was to blunt them as much as possible. Watch Bill Oreilly he has become much more diplomatic and “fair and balanced” and soft. Its because he wants to retain the #1 spot on cable news and to do that he has to have access to the Obama campaign and we worked hard at stringing him a long and keeping him soft for an interview swap. It worked and now he is anticipating more access. So he is playing it still soft.

This is why nothing sticks.

The operation is massive, the goal is to paint a picture that is that of a winner, regardless of the results.

There is no true inauguration draft or true grant park construction going on. There will be a party, but we are boasting beyond the truth to make it seem like the election is wrapped up.

Our goal is to continue to make you lose your moral. We worked hard at persuasion and paying off and timing and playing the right political numbers to get key republican endorsements to make it seem even more like it was over and the world was coming to an end for you all.

There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.

The truth is here. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

I am saying this because I know HRC was better for the country, and now realize this. I was too late by the time I connected to her. To me Barack was just a cool young dude that seemed like a star. I didn’t know him or his policies, but now I understand more than I care to and I realize his interests are more for him, and the DNC and all working like puppets with dean. I always thought a president wanted the better good for the country. The end result I see is everyone dependent on the government, this means more and more people voting for the DNC. This means the future is forever altered. I don’t see this as america, so I am now supporting John Mccain.

re: #96 Bubbaman

I think pretty much all the new VW ads I've seen are creepy...(but I suspect it reflects a German sensibility...maybe "it's a cultural thing.")

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

What the hell does that mean?

My wife heard that on a Spanish language station hosted by an American whose parents were born in Cuba. I believe his point was if you vote for Obama you may as well go to Cuba.

re: #53 unclassifiable

I guess I am having a hard time seeing past the upside to this. Here's one thing they forgot. We get practically all of the military personnel -- probably through emigration out of New California (no sense going were there is no work). By default we'll get whatever the hell we want:)

If they're sitting there with their asses hanging out, with no military, then they'd be open to invasion from the first dictatorship that wigs on the easy pickin's. Hey libs, can you speak Mandarin? How do you look in the latest chic coveralls? --And what was that you said, about 'sexual orientation'?
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re: #39 Grandma

Great post, Grandma...you really need to visit LGF more often.

re: #98 Aussie Infidel

All of the commentators (in Canada, on the BBC, on the American networks) are eagerly anticipating The Zero to win...they are campaigning non stop, including citing all the poll numbers claiming The Zero leads, and that the McCain campaign is despondent, blah, blah, blah...I hope that this crap inflames McCain's supporters to get out and VOTE come Nov. 4!

sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am

re: #105 jorline

Great post, Grandma...you really need to visit LGF more often.

I second that, with an upding.
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re: #94 gmsc

The Red States also get the U.S. Constitution, while the Blue States will draw up a new constitution centered around equality of results, such as wealth. In the long run, the red country will be a rich nation, surrounded by the poor struggling areas such as California, New York, Washington, and Oregon, who will wonder why they keep having such bad luck.

You miss my point. If Blue CA decides to secede, the majority of the Red counties will cut out the Bay Area and LA. The rest of us want to stay loyal to the Union.

Go Phillies! End it in 5, don't give "The One" anymore viewers.

To all Phillies and Rays fans: I really don't care who wins (would actually be cool to see the Rays win it), but I am more concerned about the country right now, so don't be offended or ecstatic about my cheer. Unless you are offended or ecstatic about taking viewers away from Obama, then I don't care.

Hmm, I wonder what the Philly fans that want Obama to have more viewers think? Ah, who am I kidding? I don't care.

re: #106 J.S.

But if by some chance McCain does pull it off then beware of the killing spree country wide as disaffected 'blue staters' take out their political frustrations with guns and baseball bats on anyone and everything in reach!

Scary days are just a week or so away whatever the outcome.

Better to stay home load for bear and eat on the bar-b-Q until the spree cools.

re: #94 gmsc

The Red States also get the U.S. Constitution, while the Blue States will draw up a new constitution centered around equality of results, such as wealth. In the long run, the red country will be a rich nation, surrounded by the poor struggling areas such as California, New York, Washington, and Oregon, who will wonder why they keep having such bad luck.

Wait please you guys grow all the food. Help I'm stuck in New Hampshire and I can't get out :-)

re: #112 BBev

Claim refugee status and throw yourself on the mercy of the Red Staters!

//sarc

re: #111 Aussie Infidel

Some are also suggesting that if the results are tight/too close...then we may not even know who's the next Prez come Nov 5...(it'll take time to sort things out...)...Then there are those (on both sides) who insist it'll be a landslide...

Got to go and do something productive.

Lunch perhaps!

Keep your heads up Yanks. The tactic by the Obamination is to make you despondent and steal the election from you.

Tough it out and get out the vote.

re: #33 reine.de.tout

Uh... Blue States, you might want to consider all those physics packages buried in silos in Montana and the Dakotas before you start talking about dividing stuff up. Just sayin'.

In the end, it wouldn't matter how the LLL divvy up the US.

Freedom will always succeed. The US was blessed by many natural resources, but we would also have blossomed on the moon. When you punish success, you get less. When you reward failure, you get more. And you can only "re"distribute the wealth ONCE. Then you have to make more wealth.

See: barren desserts under the Palis versus thriving economies and lush landscapes under Israel.

re: #108 Tamron

Thanks for your vote of confidence in me. Also #105, jorline. I have been a “lizard” since 2001 and have stayed in touch with Charles’ site even when back then there were hardly any comments to his posts. I will never abandon LGF.

That being said, I am getting to be an old lady; energy levels seem to have gone south. I am up to my eyeballs in caring for my elderly Pop, even though he’s in a nursing home (one still has to make sure they are doing what it costs over $6K a month for), so I have limited time to comment. I use my commenting time wisely and only comment when I have something worthwhile to say. But like I tell Pop, as Gen. MacArthur said, “I shall return”….if anyone cares.

re: #117 Silhouette

Freedom will always succeed. The US was blessed by many natural resources, but we would also have blossomed on the moon. When you punish success, you get less. When you reward failure, you get more. And you can only "re"distribute the wealth ONCE. Then you have to make more wealth.

See: barren desserts under the Palis versus thriving economies and lush landscapes under Israel.

Quite true!

As for the Palis, it's interesting that they complained after Israel's War of Independence that Israel got all the good land and they got the barren/awful land.

The settlements in Judea and Samaria (and previously in Gaza) are/were beautiful, though. The idea of "bad land" didn't keep Israelis from making their parts of it beautiful. Even the Jewish communities on sand in Gaza were really lovely.

It's a frame of mind. When a people is handed what they have, they never have enough. When a people works for it, their love of accomplishment really makes the fruits of their efforts lovely and worthwhile.

If Obambi wins (G-d forbid), he will poison everybody (both those who get things for nothing and those who are robbed after having earned their wealth.)

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re: #39 Grandma

So this will be a little personal ancient history and I’ll try to give you the Reader’s Digest version so I don’t bore any lizards to tears. I was widowed in 1974. I never remarried. I had four children under the age of seven. They went to a school system in NJ that in 1973 was about to lose their accreditation for the high school. My kids went there, and because they WANTED an education, and in spite of a poor system were all admitted to state colleges and universities, primarily Rutgers University.

Each one of those kids lived in college dorms their first year. Then they elected to move back home and commute (we only lived 8 miles from Rutgers). I opened the doors up again, took a freezer plan to put more food in the house. Between each one of those kids, and my efforts, we put a small down payment from the remaining college savings on a new car in my name for each (down payment would have been equal to the next year’s dorm fees). The arrangement between my kids and me was that when they got a degree beginning with the letter “B”, the car would be theirs, no strings. At one point I was making three car payments on a job that only paid a supervisor’s salary.

Once the kids had transportation, they found part-time jobs (some had two or three). Two kids took out student loans for only about $2K to $3K total for each. They paid their own personal expenses, car insurance and co-pays for their health care under my insurance. One daughter who got her BA degree in 1990 actually kept her 1987 Mustang until 1996.

My point is that education is about the student buying into it. It isn’t a handout. I’m so darn lucky that every one of my four kids bought into their own education. They didn’t expect me or the gubmint to entitle that for them. Who are these little darlings today that think they’re going to earn the big bucks with the attitude about learning that they have? Another daughter had her resume professionally printed up two weeks after getting her BA degree and said, “don’t worry, Ma, I’ve been to the university and I already know who the competition is, and I’ll get the job”. She sure did. And she was the one to buy her own home at age 24.

So, screw throwing more taxes to the “education” system. When are these educators going to realize that until the child buys into their own education and works to make it happen for themselves, instead of some “community organizer” or elitist professor, that nothing will change for them?

Thanks for listening to Grandma on another lovely Carolina evening, and have a nice day.

You must be proud....heck, I am proud of your kids and I haven't even met them...

You are quite an individual and thanks for sharing a wonderful story full of truth and inspiration.

Newsflash! Palin is acting like a "diva", and the McCain camp is imploding with infighting!

(It must be true, 'cause it's on CNN...)

Pay no attention to all that stuff about Obama being exposed as an anti-American socialist! ... Nothing to see here! ... Just desperation by McCain...

/sarc

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

What the hell does that mean?

They forgot the punchline to:

There was an Old Man of Nantucket...

Can anyone explain why John McCain is planning on taxing our health care benefits? I don't understand this. Why? And I did a lot of research on this. Can anyone explain to me how McCain's $5000 rebate, which I understand will go directly to the insurance companies----which, as we know, hate to pay claims---will benefit me when I have a policy worth $13K? How?

Also, if I'm forced on to the open market, what insurance company will go near me, even for an exorbitant rate, with my pre-existing condition? What will McCain do for me if I'm told that my premium is $3000 per month and it explicitly rules out any coverage for anything related to the disease most likely to give me problems? How---and why---would a private, for-profit company help me in this situation?

I'm pretty angry about this. And I've personally gotten several friends and family members to contact McCain's campaign for some answers. None of them have been told anything except "Look at our website." and "Obama's lying. Don't trust him."

That's not good enough. I despise the Democrats, but I'm so pissed about McCain taxing my health care benefits---something vital to my life and my family---that I'm thinking of voting for Obama, or staying home, just to shove it back in McCain's face.

He's not a real conservative anyway. We should have never nominated this insurance company crony.

re: #124 JimCap

McCain’s health insurance proposal is certainly one of the weakest points of his platform.

Taxing company-paid insurance premiums as income on a 13K policy would result in an increase of about 4K on the taxes of “JimCap” – if his employer actually pays the entire premium amount. With a 5K tax credit, Mr. Jim Cap would come out about 1K ahead at the end of the year.

Most companies do not pay the full cost of health insurance, many pay nothing at all. In those cases the worker is already paying income tax on some or all of the money that goes to the health insurance premium. If Mr. Jim Cap is in this circumstance, the McCain proposal will put him ahead by up to 5K at the end of the year.

Of course buying health insurance as an individual is a losing proposition in almost all circumstances, as the premiums are considerably higher and the carriers generally exclude “pre-existing conditions”. This is the central flaw that is left unaddressed in the McCain proposal.

The McCain proposal only works well for people who already get health insurance through some kind of group affiliation – employers, clubs, associations, etc.