Wait? We don't need to print? The only subscribers are LA Times employees - all 3 of us and we already know what we are going to say? When? Why?

And then they wonder why they are losing readership. Gee, I can't figure that one out.

Well, that settles that. What's next?
/

"Thanks for your note back. It sounds as if you don’t find 'mere reporting' to be enough, but The Times is not suppressing anything."

LOL! Nice response!

No, no, no! The LA Times responded to the letter writers!

You see, the difference between readers and letter-writers is that the LA Times actually has letter writers.

Utter arrogance. They know the power of video, and refuse to release it.

How dare you impugn our journalistic standards!

It sounds as if you don’t find “mere reporting” to be enough

1) No- merely reporting is not enough.
2) You barely even do "mere reporting" as it is.

And Drudge just reported the the L.A. Slimes laid off another 75 staffers today. Coincidence? I think not.

And they wonder why I cancelled my subscription.

Didn't I read today that they announced that they are laying off 75 of their staff?

This is absurd.
"We let slip that we have a tape, therefore we brought it to light.
Enough said. Thanks for writing. ESAD, readers."

We decide what news you will see!

Infidels!

Who owns the LATimes? Someone with a vested interest in Obama's election success?

La Times to cut 10% of workforce.....

Wah!

(No sarc tag this time!)

re: #15 A Kiwi Infidel

Who owns the LATimes? Someone with a vested interest in Obama's election success?

Chicago Tribune, well, the Tribune Co. in Chicago, but it's for sale.

They are just vying for a chance to be a state owned run newspaper.

Yes we have it. No, we are not going to release it it and why are you even asking?

/ RACIST!

Shocked -- shocked, I tell you!

/

Perhaps we send the link of the lay off news in response and say "Look you dimwits! We are trying to save your sorry behinds! Work with us a bit here, would ya?"

The LA Slimes is a communist rag, and I told them so.

re: #17 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

They own the Baltimore Sun, too.

re: #15 A Kiwi Infidel

Who owns the LATimes? Someone with a vested interest in Obama's election success?

Just thinking the same thing--who is paying them off? George Soros? a Saudi sheik? You can bet someone is.

OT ... I just finished watching Sarah give a speech in Virginia on live stream .. Whether you believe everything she does or not ....that woman can get the crowd going ..and it is great to hear someone praise America ..she can tell it like it is ..she is not afraid .. not intimidated ..brings it to Senator Government ..She is tough ...McCain is a great man whether you like everything he believes or not and he will be a great president .. but if he wins it will be because she brought the fire ...Let's Win This!

Well if it is any consolation, it is the all over talk radio. Time will tell.

"That's a nice First Amendment you got there..."

I do not want an government agency to exercise control over the press, even if it is to keep them honest.

I meant state owned and run newspaper -

Just finished applying sealant to some granite - talk about a high, or low, or somethin

re: #22 RirghtSideOfTheFence

The LA Slimes is a communist rag, and I told them so.

See? That's the problem. Everyone here who emailed them said they were polite, respectful and nice. These are libs, so they invite abuse. Be mean!
J/K!

Let's see, and if they had a .....say a fax, of certain military documents on, let's say McCain, they would suppress that too?

re: #16 lone_wolf_in_illinois

La Times to cut 10% of workforce.....

Wah!

(No sarc tag this time!)

hmm..I wonder if any disgruntled workers would er..ah..ahem..leak the tape?

The fact that the video could have more than they reported is THE point of why it needs released. Keep emailing them, and bring this point up often. Its doubtful it will work, but keep trying.

Note that Obama was not the Democratic nominee yet when they originally published their article. If this information had only come out now, they would no doubt have ignored it entirely.

i cant understand how these papers don't realize their own actions are causing their demise.

Organizing a picket in front of the L.A. Times building would be interesting. Get the local TV stations to report on it. Think I'll email some local talk show people.

re: #17 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

It may be pointless but besides emailing, faxing and calling the LA Times I also emailed the reporter, Peter Wallsten, and sent a FAX to Sam Zell, the owner of Tribune Co. in Chicago.

Charles -- I know Jamie Gold. I had exhaustive dealings with her during the al-Marayati scandal. She's very sweet, but as much a "readers' representative" as a DA is a "defentant's representative" -- she's just a flack-catcher.

re: #23 ArmyWife

They own the Baltimore Sun, too.

That's for sale also- Sam Zell is selling the company piecemeal- TV stations, newspapers, radio stations, even the Cubs and Wrigley Field. he said he might sell them separately and to different people. Now that's blasphemy!

re: #7 Thanos

But, but I thought they were neutral arbiters simply presenting the unbiased truth. They'd never try to suppress information that the voters might need to form their opinion of the Candidates. Look at all the effort spent tracking down Chimpy McHitlerburtins National Guard record.

[/False but accurate]

I want to see the video.

I guess they bear responsibility for the Obama administration and all that goes with it.

It sounds as if you don’t find “mere reporting” to be enough

This from the same industry that gave us how many weeks of continuous Abu Ghraib, Hurricane Katrina, OJ, et cetera et cetera, coverage?

Charles -- Please contact Zombie re. the hatefest at SF State starting tomorrow. It's a big one. I was planning to fly up there, but couldn't. Thanks.

re: #25 JacksonTn

Hey! That's up in my neck of the woods! She was supposed to speak at the Civic Center, but there were so many people in line to get in that they decided to move it to the football stadium. Mr. Wolf happened to pass by there and said the traffic was unbelievable!

re: #34 trailortrash

i cant understand how these papers don't realize their own actions are causing their demise.

SSSSHHHHH !

re: #34 trailortrash

i cant understand how these papers don't realize their own actions are causing their demise.

It's the mindset. They are so closed off from mainstream American, so sheltered in their echo-chambers, that they honestly don't see what the problem is.

I think it's a little like what we see in the middle east. They see their countries are not advancing so they think more islam is the answer, not less or reform.

Same thing here- they see republicans are still around and not the people they think should be in power, so instead of being fair and equal in their treatment, they become more biased thinking that is the solution.

re: #35 HelloDare

Organizing a picket in front of the L.A. Times building would be interesting. Get the local TV stations to report on it. Think I'll email some local talk show people.

Hire some unemployed ACORN workers ..... what are they going for now $8 hour ...I don't really think they would care where the money was coming from ....

re: #27 The Other Les

"That's a nice First Amendment you got there..."

It'd be a damn shame if somebody broke it, if you know what I mean.

re: #41 Racer X

I want to see the video.

Stupid question, but did anybody do a youtube or liveleak search for it?

May I suggest a different tack ?
First, call their entire reporting into question.
Insist that they are SMEARING Obama and probably don't have any tape at all.
Accuse them of lying.
If they still don't release it, accuse them of lying again, and insist that in the spirit of journalistic ethics and fairness that they at least point to the source that gave them the tape so that said source can be asked for further copies.

According to this the financial picture is not too bright at the LA Times, or the rest of the Tribune Co.

Tribune Reports 2008 Second Quarter Results

CHICAGO, August 13, 2008 -- Tribune Company today reported a second quarter 2008 loss from continuing operations of $3.8 billion compared with income from continuing operations of $35 million in the second quarter of 2007. The 2008 loss from continuing operations was due to after-tax non-cash charges of $3.8 billion to write down the Company’s publishing goodwill and newspaper masthead intangible assets, nearly all of which resulted from the Company’s Times Mirror acquisition in 2000.

[Link: www.tribune.com...]

Think of the additional readership if they broke a big story. Hmm.
Otherwise, it looks like a big short-selling opportunity.

re: #35 HelloDare

Organizing a picket in front of the L.A. Times building would be interesting. Get the local TV stations to report on it. Think I'll email some local talk show people.

Zombie suggested a protest on a thread this morning. Seafood Gumbo was trying to contact some folks who had organized another protest so you never know. You lizards might see me on TV as I don't live too far away. LOL

re: #34 trailortrash

i cant understand how these papers don't realize their own actions are causing their demise.

It's easy, they live in a parallel universe in which the left is right and the right is wrong. Sooner or later, they will realize that we don't need them and they will go the way of lp's, eight tracks and chia pets. Then we will be all the better off for it.

re: #35 HelloDare

I dare ya. I doube dare ya.

[Link: thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com...]

re: #39 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Lets take a collection and buy it! We insist those in the guild write objectively or out they go - when they all quit we take over the writing.

re: #41 Racer X

You will never see it until after the election and then only if it makes the "One" look good to his benefactors.

Are there any legal options here?

Of course, by the time anything could happen, it would be too late anyway.

re: #51 Jimash

May I suggest a different tack ?
First, call their entire reporting into question.
Insist that they are SMEARING Obama and probably don't have any tape at all.
Accuse them of lying.
If they still don't release it, accuse them of lying again, and insist that in the spirit of journalistic ethics and fairness that they at least point to the source that gave them the tape so that said source can be asked for further copies.

Good idea. The 'journalist' doing the initial reporting is obviously a McCainiac (or a Hillary! supporter) who has it in for Obama. If they have the tape, they'll show it. If they don't then I call BS on the whole article. //

febuary 1st 2008 endorsement

Please remember, all the journalists and the logistics groups are union represented. Wonder where the left lean comes from? Wonder why there is no profitability? Simply mysterious, isn't it?

Game 5 of the World Series about to start. Go Phillies! End it tonight!

re: #51 Jimash

I hope you are on our side! Great idea.

Mr. Obama, a senator from Illinois, holds most of the same positions as the paper’s editorial board

re: #51 Jimash

May I suggest a different tack ?
First, call their entire reporting into question.
Insist that they are SMEARING Obama and probably don't have any tape at all.
Accuse them of lying.
If they still don't release it, accuse them of lying again, and insist that in the spirit of journalistic ethics and fairness that they at least point to the source that gave them the tape so that said source can be asked for further copies.

The Clinton campaign officials will deny all inquiries.

re: #57 ArmyWife

Lets take a collection and buy it! We insist those in the guild write objectively or out they go - when they all quit we take over the writing.

I'll chip in 5 bucks. Make me CEO, okay?
/

re: #15 A Kiwi Infidel

Who owns the LATimes? Someone with a vested interest in Obama's election success?

Chicago's Union Tribune owns them. Nuff said.

re: #63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Game 5 of the World Series about to start. Go Phillies! End it tonight!

If they do end it tonight, then 0bama won't be holding up any game with his speech. Go Rays!

re: #51 Jimash
right why isn't Obamas Campaign shutting them down?

So what they're really saying is that it should be enough for us unwashed peasants that they reported that they have a tape, but it is not relevant that they actually release the thing?

How utterly and astoundingly void of any true journalistic standards is the LA Times.

This rag is going down.

Dear L.A. Times,

Since you're done with it, mind if we borrow the tape?

Thx, bye!

Dugg...

re: #68 Russkilitlover

Chicago's Union Tribune owns them. Nuff said.

Union Tribune? That's in San Diego.

Boy...all I got back was the lousy bot:

Thank you for your e-mail to the readers' representative office of the Los Angeles Times. Our office is here for readers who have questions or concerns about journalistic standards and practices in The Times news
coverage, or who believe that The Times has made an error. Those comments or questions are most helpful when you provide examples or specifics, so that we can forward those details to the editors and reporters involved in coverage.

We read all of the e-mails that come in, researching and forwarding to the appropriate staffer or department. For those inquiries needing further response, either this office or an editor or reporter will contact you. While we don't have time to respond personally to each e-mail, many reader comments are posted on the the Readers' Representative Journal ([Link: www.latimes.com...] a forum for
discussions about newsroom practices and standards.

blah, blah...

re: #63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Game 5 of the World Series about to start. Go Phillies! End it tonight!

I am an American league fan but since Obama is having the propaganda on before game 6, I want this to end tonight so there is no game 6. I know not many are watching this year but anything to cut down on the possible viewer ship for Obama is A-OK with me. Go Phillies!

We need to put together a $1 million prize for the first LA times employee that leaks the video. That's about the only chance we have to get it released.

re: #69 gmsc

Obama's presumptuous address to the nation could backfire.

re: #75 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
what standards.

Actually, Jamie is lying about the story - Debbie Schlussel was the first to report it, and their reporter called her and asked her for info for his story.

re: #69 gmsc

If they do end it tonight, then 0bama won't be holding up any game with his speech. Go Rays!

See I don't want anybody tuniing in to see the game and watching that fool instead?

OT -- but HAD to share this

French Playdown Importance of Losing Anit-Tank Missle to Taliban in Ambush

But this excerpt is precious...

It said that around 300 French troops were attacked by about 100 Taliban and had to retreat after fierce fighting.

Contrast this cowardly behaviour with the story of Marcus Luttrell and Seal Team 10. (read the book Lone Survivor) It was four against almost 200 Taliban. They took about 125 Taliban with them. Effing FOUR of them. pfffft!

Wow, 44 degrees and raining. Baseball weather!

Just imagine how damaging this tape must be.

re: #60 kynna

Good idea. The 'journalist' doing the initial reporting is obviously a McCainiac (or a Hillary! supporter) who has it in for Obama. If they have the tape, they'll show it. If they don't then I call BS on the whole article. //

Quoting myself to say that this strategy will backfire since we know they don't care a thing about destroying their journalistic reputation when getting Obama elected is on the line.

Biden will be on O'Reilly for all the East coasters in a few minutes... This should be good.

re: #86 CapeCoddah

Biden will be on O'Reilly for all the East coasters in a few minutes... This should be good.

I am not sure who I hate more?

re: #41 Racer X

I want to see the video.

Yeah, well, I want a 25% annual return on my 401K for the next 25 years.
My daughter wants a pony for her birthday.
My son wants a Miata for graduation and a free ride to the University of Kansas.
My wife wants a BMW Z4 Roadster.

/

re: #57 ArmyWife

Lets take a collection and buy it! We insist those in the guild write objectively or out they go - when they all quit we take over the writing.

Hey - I'm in! I got about.....(three, four, five..) $5.45.

/is that enough?

I got just about the same email back.

"Thanks for your note. Over six months ago the Los Angeles Times published a detailed account of the events shown on the videotape. The Times is not suppressing anything. Just the opposite -- the L.A. Times brought the matter to light. Please read the article at:

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Thanks again for taking the time to write.

Jamie Gold

Readers' Representative"

Is Obama's propaganda on all the over-the-air networks tomorrow night?

Me either, I an hoping for a Barney Frank repeat, though!

Dear LA Times:

It's a deal. You keep your video; I keep my money.

BTW, how are those layoffs working out for you?

Regards,

Nutmeg

More journalist malfeasance.

re: #63 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

O'Reilly trashed Al Franken and played parts of Obama's "redistribute the wealth" audio. Now Newt is expounding on it.

re: #86 CapeCoddah

Biden will be on O'Reilly for all the East coasters in a few minutes... This should be good.

O'Rielly found guilty of journalism and banned in 3, 2, 1 ...

re: #90 Intrepid

Hey - I'm in! I got about.....(three, four, five..) $5.45.

/is that enough?

I'm kicking in 5 bucks and I'm CEO. Guess that makes you Chairman of the Board, boss.

re: #89 MarkX

I have pony for sale...she is on trial right now, but if they chose not to buy her, I should contact you?

re: #92 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Is Obama's propaganda on all the over-the-air networks tomorrow night?

before a possible game 6

You are racist if you do not vote for Obama. If we don't like your questions, we will cut you off from any communications with us. The MSM is working with Obama to supress information. Children are being taught to question their parents. Videos of young men in military gear, stomping to a chant about Obama. Children singing praises to Obama. Character assasination of Palin and her family. Common plumbers asks the wrong question, his personal life bared all over the world. Campaign posters in the style of communist revolutionary art. Remarks from religious leaders of Obama's almost christ-like persona. Endorsements from major terrorist and terrorist groups.

"The linking together of opposites… knowledge with ignorance, cynicism with fanaticism, this is the mark of the power of the Party. The Party’s ideology abounds with contradictions even when there is no practical reason for them. We must denounce the war with Eurasia; we must return to the people freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly and freedom of thought…"

Welcome!

Why not release the Rashid Khalidi video tape?

Reporting the news rather than hiding it might help stem your ever decreasing circulation and staff.

Will we ever get the truth from the ZerObama Elite?

"Click LINK for Answer"

NObama!
Please dear God, save my country! Please!

re: #96 MarkX

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Commie bastard.
/

I've still got that iron pipe standing if y'all want to address your requests to something that is just as likely to respond, and less likely to issue a contemptous refusal.

re: #95 rawmuse

More journalist malfeasance.

Redundant.

re: #97 Griffon

O'Reilly trashed Al Franken and played parts of Obama's "redistribute the wealth" audio. Now Newt is expounding on it.

Wonderful!

It sounds as if you don’t find “mere reporting” to be enough, ...

She writes this as if the Times did any real reporting.

...

This is probably a new sensation for the Times- they're actually being held accountable by their readership. Usually it's them holding elected officials accountable, but since they've decided to forego that time honored tradition they will now be learning a lesson in blowback.

re: #101 ArmyWife

I have pony for sale...she is on trial right now, but if they chose not to buy her, I should contact you?

Geez, I mean, the law must be really hard on ponies in your area.

Look what's being sent to the instructors at a Columbus College via email.

My name is Omar Faruk, I'm working with Vote Today Ohio to get young people all cross Ohio to exercise their right and VOTE EARLY. I was wondering if one of my volunteers or I can come to your class before it begins to talk to students about the benefits of early voting. If so, please let me know, and please encourage your students to vote early!

Vote Today Ohio is providing free shuttles to the Franklin County polling center every day! Shuttles leave CSCC (outside Nestor Hall) every half hour from 10 am -4 pm We will transport anyone no matter who they vote for!

Here's a little history on Vote Today Ohio.

CLEVELAND -

It really says something that FoxNews is the least biased and most popular cable news network while MSNBC is the most biased and least popular network.

The LA Times and other Obama for President news organizations ought to think about what this means (and how it translates to revenue.)

re: #114 Soona'

yes, well. She is a naughty pony.

/she is actually a GREAT pony

By this new standard of treatment of newsworthy video tape, here is what the LA Times reporting on the Rodney King beating should have read:

In a videotape provided to the Los Angeles Times, a black motorist is apprehended by police after a high speed chase. While some may characterize the apprehension as "a beating" others may not feel that way. We have therefore decided to not provide the video for any public scrutiny.

In other news, a gold fish was found floating upside down in a Chatsworth home after it had been overfed by an over zealous 5 year old.

Why doesn't the LA Times just say FUCK YOU! FUCK OFF! and be honest?

re: #112 buzzsawmonkey

Leftists work very hard at forgetting, and especially at getting everyone else to forget, that 1984 was a warning against the evils of Socialism.

The Party, after all, is named Ingsoc; "English Socialism."

Yes, and Eric Blair was an English Socialist. He wasn't bothered so much by socialism, but he was bothered with socialism that became totalitarianism. That was the message of 1984.

re: #82 soccerdad

It said that around 300 French troops were attacked by about 100 Taliban and had to retreat after fierce fighting.

Did you hear the one about the Frenchman who wanted to get away from it all?

--He joined the American Legion.
.

re: #100 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm kicking in 5 bucks and I'm CEO. Guess that makes you Chairman of the Board, boss.

Woot! As Chairwoman, I make a motion that we release the tapes! Can I get a second from the CEO?

Next order of business - I make a motion that we adjourn and go to the beach!

Second?

Wayne Huizenga wants to sell Dolphins before Barack Obama raises
tax[Link: www.sun-sentinel.com...]

That about says it all!

Rodney King. Good reference point.

re: #113 Sharmuta

This is probably a new sensation for the Times- they're actually being held accountable by their readership. Usually it's them holding elected officials accountable, but since they've decided to forego that time honored tradition they will now be learning a lesson in blowback.

Times have changed when it's the people investigating and putting pressure on the press for not being forthcoming enough (rather than the press putting pressure on a Presidential candidate like Barack Obama.)

The whole country is turning into investigative journalists and their allies to try to get down to the matter of what exactly stinks about the MSM.

re: #119 profitsbeard

Why doesn't the LA Times just say FUCK YOU! FUCK OFF! and be honest?

I think they have.

ciaospirit (#115),

From your link:

CLEVELAND - Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.

The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state's elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.

Gee, no opportunity for voter fraud there eh?

Remember those wealthy companies that make more than $250,000 that Obama wants to increase taxes on?

That includes the LA-Times.

Hope these partisans enjoy the coming ADDITIONAL layoffs. . .

HotAir has this story up top in their headlines section. More traffic coming.

re: #104 Geepers

Why not release the Rashid Khalidi video tape?

Reporting the news rather than hiding it might help stem your ever decreasing circulation and staff.

Exactly. Hey, LAT. Don't think of releasing the tape as reporting the news, think of it as..."spreading the news around" or, "information re-distribution." Both of which are good things in your world view, yes?

re: #73 Noam Sayin'

Dugg...

I joined up and dugg it.

There must be something really juicy in that video, that the L.A. Times is sitting on it so hard! What could it be? Paris Hilton presiding over a black mass, wearing her Manolo Blaniks (and nothing else?) Hitler's ghost on the guest list? The 12th Imam popping out a giant cake? Ariana Huffington popping out of a giant cake? (and announcing she's really the 12th Imam?) A surprise appearance by Beelzebub?

(I have the feeling the whole thing must have been one great big antisemetic hate-fest, with some people, perhaps, starting to blab unwisely about their plans for the future. . . )

Wow, that's pretty much confirmation that they have the video. Will any of the MSM, besides maybe Fox, put pressure on them to release it?

re: #127 Geepers

ciaospirit (#115),

From your link:

Gee, no opportunity for voter fraud there eh?

Not only that. I've heard three first hand reports that no ID was required to be shown at Vet's Memorial in Columbus.

re: #103 Walter L. Newton

"You are racist if you do not vote for Obama. If we don't like your questions, we will cut you off from any communications with us."
+
I say to Obama and all his minions that I find you hypocritical, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible and ignorant.
I spit you from my mouth like the flim of an angry flu virus that has infested my body, my temple of the Lord. Begone, and never cross my path again, for I shall surely thrash you without mercy if you get in my face with your fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, and ignorant effluvia of stupidity and crass political ambition.

Now I can breathe normally again for a few hours and be calm.

Rant off.

the fact that they refuse to release the video will only cause people to think the worst.
that it is must be very damning.
the news story here is their refusal to let us see this pertinent tape.
they are not doing their jobs. they are trying to effect the outcome of the election by w/ holding vital information.
shame on these shills.

ciaospirit (#135),

Not only that. I've heard three first hand reports that no ID was required to be shown at Vet's Memorial in Columbus.

Insane.

Why is their FO response a surprise?

They have a long track record of making fair and accurate reporting decisions...that's why their readership continues to climb and profits are soaring. Like the NYT, I see continued growth for the LAT and a smart career move for any successful journalist.

//do I even need to add the sarc tag?

re: #82 soccerdad

It said that around 300 French troops were attacked by about 100 Taliban and had to retreat after fierce fighting.

I posted this a few days ago, but it's worth posting again:

DESPITE being shot twice during an ambush in Afghanistan, an SAS soldier lashed himself to the front of his patrol vehicle so he wouldn't be left behind if he passed out from loss of blood and kept on fighting.

The Digger is expected to be recommended for a high level bravery award.

Suffering from serious upper body wounds, the soldier struggled on to the front of his SAS long range patrol vehicle (LRPV) and, under heavy fire, used a rope to attach himself firmly between the vehicle's bull bar and radiator.

Once he was secured, and there was no chance that he would fall off if he fainted, he picked up his rifle and resumed firing at the enemy during a two-hour fighting withdrawal.

re: #91 daddycrack

Please read the article at:

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Well, why not just run with the article? Except for any proof that Ayers and Dohrn were even in attendance, it's pretty much all there.

A special tribute came from Khalidi's friend and frequent dinner companion, the young state Sen. Barack Obama. Speaking to the crowd, Obama reminisced about meals prepared by Khalidi's wife, Mona, and conversations that had challenged his thinking.

His many talks with the Khalidis, Obama said, had been "consistent reminders to me of my own blind spots and my own biases. . . . It's for that reason that I'm hoping that, for many years to come, we continue that conversation -- a conversation that is necessary not just around Mona and Rashid's dinner table," but around "this entire world."

/with a week left, you can go with what you have or keep hitting your head against the wall

re: #27 The Other Les

"That's a nice First Amendment you got there..."

I do not want an government agency to exercise control over the press, even if it is to keep them honest.

Agreed because the public is the monitoring agency. WE choose to refuse the funding of dishonest journalism and encourage the growth of unbiased journalism.

"utter arrogance", matches their choice of candidates.. How dare you question what we do. Lemme see, how does that go again?

Oh yeah:

Amendment 1. abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press....and the "press" takes full advantage of that. Detriment of the nation, doesn't even enter the equation. Both ways.

Almost certainly covered here already, but this is an article from today's Sun-Sentinel:

JERUSALEM - The board of a nonprofit organization on which Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe" and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.

At least they received a response--I wrote a very polite letter and there are crickets chirping in my inbox...

OReilly mentioned the LA Times story and he will look into it. Has those bully ways...can't hurt.

re: #35 HelloDare

Organizing a picket in front of the L.A. Times building would be interesting. Get the local TV stations to report on it. Think I'll email some local talk show people.

Try John and Ken on KFI, although they are increasingly agnostic enough and cynical enough in this election that they pretty much tilt BHO direction. Very sad. They used to be common sense oriented.

O'Reilly said he is going to do a segment on the LA Time story on tomorrow's show.

Maybe they'll release if if we all promise to subscribe to the LA Slimes if they do.

It's highly probably there is far worse on the tape than has been reported.

Far worse.

re: #77 mrsnuggles

We need to put together a $1 million prize for the first LA times employee that leaks the video. That's about the only chance we have to get it released.

Yes, that would be effective. But $10K would probably do as well.

re: #148 Not amazed in NJ

O'Reilly said he is going to do a segment on the LA Time story on tomorrow's show.

/probably the best we can hope for at this point

Hello, Charles, where's the link to the story?

I mean to this exchange between the LA Times and the readers rep.

re: #150 erisldysnomia

It's highly probably there is far worse on the tape than has been reported.

Far worse.

Yeah, maybe, but probably not. Remember, this is an event and article from 2003, a year before he was a U.S. Senator and two years before Obama even started running for President.

/they would have had absolutely no reason to cover for him back then

The only difference between the media and advertising is that the Government has laws against false advertising.

re: #155 Killian Bundy

The most startling thing that could possibly be on that video is Obama not regurgitating typical libberish and people in the crowd not dozing off.

Maybe one of the 75 people who are getting laid off can, oops, accidentally email the video to say a hundred people?

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Yeah, maybe, but probably not. Remember, this is an event and article from 2003, a year before he was a U.S. Senator and two years before Obama even started running for President.

/they would have had absolutely no reason to cover for him back then

Okay, the article is from last April and they didn't even have to report on it at all if it was that incriminating. The Clintons didn't use or pursue it.

/you're apparently not going to get the tape anyway, if it even still exists, so, with a week left, probably concentrate on something more fruitful

Maybe the National Enquirer will get a copy, they have some money to spend.

LAT get scopped on this.... would be funny!

re: #159 Killian Bundy

Okay, the article is from last April and they didn't even have to report on it at all if it was that incriminating. The Clintons didn't use or pursue it.

/you're apparently not going to get the tape anyway, if it even still exists, so, with a week left, probably concentrate on something more fruitful

I agree that it is not the best avenue - the whole redistribution thing is the best thing we have right now. However, I think it is worth something to see Obama and Ayers together at yet again something else. Big bonus if they were sitting next to each other.

Funny how the LA Times has become Richard Nixon hiding his tapes.

If the LA times has a "copy", who has the original?

This is absolutely unacceptable. If there are all these bad things coming from Obama, why do they still support him?

Let the people decide if they still trust Obama. Release all the tapes and videos. These buggers have no right to cover people's ears. There's a COUNTRY on the line.

This situation calls for boots on the ground and picket signs in the air. Imagine the sight of the LAT being picketed by people demanding that it stop suppressing information, you know, like they were the Bush administration or something. Oh the irony, which would be entirely lost on our benevolent media overlords.

Turning sarc-o-meter off.

re: #140 gregg

DESPITE being shot twice during an ambush in Afghanistan, an SAS soldier lashed himself to the front of his patrol vehicle so he wouldn't be left behind if he passed out from loss of blood and kept on fighting.

The Digger is expected to be recommended for a high level bravery award.

Suffering from serious upper body wounds, the soldier struggled on to the front of his SAS long range patrol vehicle (LRPV) and, under heavy fire, used a rope to attach himself firmly between the vehicle's bull bar and radiator.

Once he was secured, and there was no chance that he would fall off if he fainted, he picked up his rifle and resumed firing at the enemy during a two-hour fighting withdrawal.

Damn, talk about being hard...I'd love to buy that Aussie soldier a beer.

re: #9 Sharmuta

1) No- merely reporting is not enough.
2) You barely even do "mere reporting" as it is.

The LA Times does reporting? That's a new one for me.

Let's assume the worst. Obama gets in, the country is in the toilet and the world splinters. People are going to remember the tape. Where does the LA Times think it can hide from furious readers? We all know the staff there has no professional or ethical scruples. Do they want to survive as a business? Maybe not.

The people left in the newsroom, are they OBAMA people? Was there a purge of any right of center leaning journalists. It would seem to be since the LAT answered the tapes release request this way.

re: #136 Meremortal

Awesome vocabulary of disgust!

I sent in an email asking for it to be released and not suppressed as well. I pointed out I was a long time subscriber and even included my account number so they could verify. I flat out said if they didn't release the video I was going to cancel my subscription as I wouldn't tolerate their dereliction of journalistic duties while subsidizing their propaganda. I got a very similar snarky response. I likewise responded and said then they out to post the video to their web site for all to see. Haven't heard back yet. I'm so pissed I am going to cancel if they don't post before the election and Obama wins.

I do think, even though it should have happened before he was even nominated, that the wobbly wheels of the Obama bus are beginning to show serious wear, and are in danger of coming off.

Make no mistake.. they only have to hold it together for 8 more days (assuming they have a chance of winning), so they will do absolutely anything, say absolutely anything.. in this brief interim before the general election next Tuesday. Even more so than before. I believe it will be evident in Obama's paid address to the nation as the presumptive winner.

This is the same strategy that the media is using on his behalf. They have been found out by the general public, but are so close to their "O-gasm" next week, that even a few thousand web readers or Fox viewers could make them release a tape, or do anything at all to puncture the tires.

They want him in office so bad they can taste it, and if this video will do O any harm, you'll have to pry it from their cold dead fingers (or recover it from a deleted hard drive).

re: #171 minuteman

I sent in an email asking for it to be released and not suppressed as well. I pointed out I was a long time subscriber and even included my account number so they could verify. I flat out said if they didn't release the video I was going to cancel my subscription as I wouldn't tolerate their dereliction of journalistic duties while subsidizing their propaganda. I got a very similar snarky response. I likewise responded and said then they out to post the video to their web site for all to see. Haven't heard back yet. I'm so pissed I am going to cancel if they don't post before the election and Obama wins.

Cancel anyway.

re: #158 mustng66

Maybe one of the 75 people who are getting laid off can, oops, accidentally email the video to say a hundred people?

Good point. We need a disgruntled employee to save the day here...

Hey, if they can leak classified documents (like the NY Times has done in the past), then one of the 75 who is being let go can just get the tape and release it. Come on, someone step up to the plate and let the story out.

Oh yeah, the LA Dog Trainer:

Effigy of Sarah Palin hanging by a noose creates uproar in West Hollywood ↵
By Victoria Kim, October 28, 2008

"A West Hollywood Halloween display showing a likeness of Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin hanging by a noose has caused a furor among some residents who reported it as a hate crime, authorities said Monday.

But Los Angeles sheriff's officials said the mannequin sporting a beehive hairdo, glasses and a red coat does not rise to the level of a hate crime because it was part of a Halloween display. "

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Charles- O'Reilly mentioned the LA Times Obama-Khalidi tape tonight.

He says they are doing a segment tomorrow on it.
I post the video- here.

Also FOX News told me they were planning on doing a segment tomorrow on the Obama-Khalidi tape.

maybe she's already fired:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

This is the journalistic equivalent of "Let them eat cake". I can get better reporting from the local high school newspaper. Or Palestra.net, apparently. When the journalism industry collapses because absolutely nobody trusts them any longer, they will have the Obama socialist paradise to fall back on, at least.

Money talks. Offer to subscribe to the Times. That's what I'm going to do now. If they release the tape...I'll subscribe.

re: #161 Not amazed in NJ

I agree that it is not the best avenue - the whole redistribution thing is the best thing we have right now. However, I think it is worth something to see Obama and Ayers together at yet again something else. Big bonus if they were sitting next to each other.

I wouldn't bank on the hope that the video shows Obama and Ayers together -- for one thing, it appears to be purely speculative that Ayers was even at the event, based on the fact that he was known to be friendly with Khalidi.

I also wouldn't assume that the video contains anything much more incriminating than what was described in the story -- because the few details that WERE reported are bad enough in themselves to scare away all those coveted Jewish voters in Florida, and thus reason enough for the LA Times to sit on the tape.

If Obama wins this election it will be 100% due to the collusion of the news media which has completely thrown off the laurel of journalistic ethics and responsibilities in order to become propagandists.

I firmly believe that, if Obama wins, all conservatives and fair-minded independents and democrats who understand how badly this undermines democracy should refuse to view any left-wing news channels or websites, purchase any leftist-run magazines or newspapers, or see any movies or TV shows starring pretentious "actor-activists." During the past few months I've permanently abandoned cnn.com, chicagotribune.com and, by extension, any of their advertisers. I will never again give them so much as a click's worth of revenue.

If this is the death toll of an informed voting population, let it also be the swan song for the activist news media. Let them go bankrupt.

I called them today-the phone clerk at the "newsdesk" was clueless about this. She chuckled actually that I read it on LGF. I then Emailed Jamie.gold@latimes.com. No reply of course.

mmmm Lobster, I love Lobster. LA Times, please eat this Lobster and report to me how it tastes.

Check out this 1922 news item that was in the New York Times about Benuto Mussolini and how he took over the media in Italy. The story is beginning to have an air of familiarity about it. I was never aware of Mussolini's career in "journalism", but he did manage to stiffle the Italian press. History has a nasty habit of repeating itself.

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

folks,,,,,
if you're reading this blog and haven't yet sent the LA Times an email, take a couple of minutes of your time and please do.

I'm glad they're not releasing the video. That would definitely be too much information for me to process.

I prefer my news filtered. It's easier that way.

Yes, that's sarcasm.

re: #84 Adina in Judea

I bet we will never know. :(

here is my correspondence on this matter with the LAT. Back to front...Better luck to y'all...

__________________________________________________ _

Good. Real people suffer more from institutional journalistic
malpractice. Try selling used cars instead if the heat is too much for
you. It's a much more honorable profession in the new millenium.

> Wow. You know, real people read these things. Thanks.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Reality_Wrangler
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:33 PM
> To: Readers Rep
> Subject: Re: Your e-mail to the L.A. Times
>
> Please contract a horribly painful fatal disease. Oh, and have a nice
> day.
>
>
>
> Thank you for your e-mail to the readers' representative office of the
>
> Los Angeles Times. Our office is here for readers who have questions
> or concerns about journalistic standards and practices in The Times
> news coverage, or who believe that The Times has made an error. Those
> comments or questions are most helpful when you provide examples or
> specifics, so that we can forward those details to the editors and
> reporters involved in coverage.

The Times' glory days are far behind it and I don't see them recovering. They are a joke here in L.A. I wish the Herald Examiner was still around, they kept the Times on their toes.

re: #180 shambug

Money talks. Offer to subscribe to the Times. That's what I'm going to do now. If they release the tape...I'll subscribe.

Yes, money talks, but I don't think you have the right angle. I think we should play on their emotions: A claim should be made that someone will buy the tape from the LA Fishwrap in order to save a reporter's job. Think of it as 'Save The Journalists', a new charity for the downsized, now poverty-stricken wordsmiths. I'm sure some journalist will volunteer for the heart-tugging photo (of them lying on the beach) which could be used in ads. "For only pennies a day, you can help feed some poor, journalist wanker (arugula). . . ."

Slapped in the face and called a bitch. That's what it boils down to.

Any chance that an MSM media critic like Howard Kurtz would pick this up?

Maybe Obama kissed Khalidi on the cheek like Hillary kissed Suha Arafat. Or maybe it's what Khalidi said on the lecturn (not what Barry said to Khalidi) that's the explosive part of the video? Like, Barry agrees with me that Israel is a racist apartheid state and will do everything necessary to end the Zionist regime and allow the Palestinians their full rights and their right to return to their ancestral home. Maybe Rashidi said, he enjoyed all those talks in the home of Ayers with Obama and Michelle and how they found common ground against the Nazi like American regime. Maybe Rashidi said, I want to give a shout out to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who ghost wrote and edited my book, just like they did for Obama. What a great American success story, Ayers and Dohrn. Change we can believe in.

re: #33 Charles

Charles...Might I suggest we (you) initiate a boycott of the LA Times. with falling circulation already, maybe we could have a real effect

BOYCOTT THE LA TIMES

The famous video of a vet addressing politicians at