Fresh Air!

re: #1 CapeCoddah

Fresh Air!

That's just new thread smell!

McCain/Palin 08!

I was gonna say that, CC! Really! But you beat me to it.
;)

LOL, Great minds think alike!

Michelle Obama on Leno. I'd rather stand in the cold rain in Philly as the Tampa Bay's bat boy than listen to her drivel.

We did electricity stuff on last night's thread, so how about chemistry tonight?

Dr. Schambaugh, of the University of Oklahoma School of Chemical Engineering, Final Exam question for May of 1997. Dr. Schambaugh is known for asking questions such as, "why do airplanes fly?" on his final exams. His one and only final exam question in May 1997 for his Momentum, Heat and Mass Transfer II class was: "Is hell exothermic or endothermic? Support your answer with proof."

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

"First, We postulate that if souls exist, then they must have some mass. If they do, then a mole of souls can also have a mass. So, at what rate are souls moving into hell and at what rate are souls leaving? I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to hell, it will not leave.

Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for souls entering hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Some of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, then you will go to hell. Since there are more than one of these religions and people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all people and souls go to hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in hell to increase exponentially.

Now, we look at the rate of change in volume in hell. Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in hell to stay the same, the ratio of the mass of souls and volume needs to stay constant. Two options exist:

If hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter hell, then the temperature and pressure in hell will increase until all hell breaks loose.
If hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until hell freezes over.
So which is it? If we accept the quote given to me by Theresa Manyan during Freshman year, "that it will be a cold night in hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I still have NOT succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then Option 2 cannot be true...Thus, hell is exothermic."

The student, Tim Graham, got the only A.

I am Joe.

Obama campaign was extremely upset about the NPR redistributive tape. But I think everyone has missed the point. What upsets Obama is his obvious support for reparations for slavery. That was the genesis of the controversy. And the concentration on that is what scares the Dems.

Trivial request - but as this seems a gathering of the wise ( or at least wide-spread) I would ask for your opinion/insight.

Anyone know anything about Seton Hill College? Esp the quality/sanity of the Grad School Creative Writing program?

Again, many thanks and appologies for the off-topic nature of my request.

Downloading Safari as we speak, to see if it can do better than Firefox here.

As for IE, one could imagine that Monopolosoft, with its 12 million employees and disposing of most the treasure of the Earth, could at least design a web browser that, say, works part of the time. No such luck though.

re: #9 pat

Obama campaign was extremely upset about the NPR redistributive tape. But I think everyone has missed the point. What upsets Obama is his obvious support for reparations for slavery. That was the genesis of the controversy. And the concentration on that is what scares the Dems.

As ace points out, we need to make sure we're getting it right:

Translation [ace]: As lefties are suggesting idiotic interpretations, and even some on the right are getting it wrong, here's what he's saying:
1. The Supreme Court never considered "redistribution of wealth" or "economic justice" among the guarantees provided to citizens.

2. Even the Warren Court was not "radical" enough to do so -- to impose real "redistributive change" on the nation.

3. The courts have generally provided negative constraints on the government rather than positive obligations the government owes to its citizens (specifically, here, such as economic justice and redistribution of wealth).

4. Therefore, it is a "tragedy" that the civil rights movement became so courts-focused, because it limited what redress they could actually obtain -- and it took attention away from the "community organizing" efforts which could assemble "coalitions of power" (political power, that is) to actually achieve "redistributive change." Such change simply could not be had in the courts, still laboring under the "constraints" imposed by the Founding Fathers.

5. "And in some ways we still suffer from that."

I log-on to the old thread and Charles starts a new thread --

Hey, has rw shown up --or did he leave when I signed-on?

re: #6 RightLogic

Michelle Obama on Leno. I'd rather stand in the cold rain in Philly as the Tampa Bay's bat boy than listen to her drivel.

Leno should ask her about her annual fashion budget.

No question Obama is a full-blown personality cult. I swear, the roots of this go back to the day JFK was killled in Dallas. A whole generation had their naivete destroyed, and they have kept that bitterness all this time. Finally, they have their new messiah to avenge that day. It is so utterly out of proportion to reality that I really feel sorry for Obama, even despite the fact that he seems to embrace it.

Surfing Safari.

I think I could get used to this.

Shiny.

So very much faster than FF.

The greater the obstacle the more glory in overcoming it.

And it's always darkest before it goes completely black.

/no pun intended

About the Obama Nazi Germany comments -- someone just emailed this, which is a bit above the usual leftist apologetics, even if the tone is typically snotty and superior. Any legal lizards want to comment on it?

You won't believe me when I say this, because you haven't taken courses
in legal theory and history. I say that ahead of time so you can toss
this out if you want. Still, I feel I owe it to you to try.

Obama was speaking as a law professor here. "Realist" has a very
specific meaning within legal theory, referring to a legal movement
prevalent in the first half of the twentieth century. One of the core
tenets of the realist doctrine was, essentially, that the decisions of
judges constitute the law, not the documents that purport to guide
them. And initially, this was met with some interest, since it provided
a different way to look at the institution of judicial review, one that
allowed for more freedom to judges in rejecting legislative intent in
borderline laws.

But as fascist and totalitarian governments began to rise on the
Continent, the realist legal perspective was viewed somewhat more
skeptically - the realist argument that what judges did *was* the law
could quite easily be seen as legitimizing a totalitarian doctrine
(because it did). So there was a burgeoning legal movement in the
judiciary... which, in the extreme, looks uncomfortably like what we're
fighting. Part of the retreat from realism as a jurisprudential
philosophy was caused by this uncomfortable comparison, and this is
what Obama refers to in that clip.

"Realist perspective" is a phrase that looks innocuous but has specific
meaning in legal theory, and specific meaning that any decent law
student, much less a law lecturer, would understand. I don't blame
people outside of legal academy for not understanding it, but it
doesn't mean what they seem to think it does. Given that I do
understand it, I feel obligated to try to educate people, if for no
other reason than because I think our political discourse is better
when we try to understand what other people are saying, not just what
we think they might be saying.

re: #12 gmsc

Ace has it right; Obama, not so much.

re: #7 gmsc

I don't know, I am feeling a little valent about that. Morning all. night shift checking in.

re: #14 brainwizard73

Leno should ask her about her annual fashion budget.

From the look of things, she saves plenty by purchasing only the finest patterns from Levitz.

Uh, well shoot - I just posted this and wham Charles has another thread up. Sorry for the repost but:
Well all y'all - had an interesting phone call today. N.C. has had early voting for a few days now and I called the Board of Elections to confirm where Mom and I go to vote on Election Day (sorry, but we're old fashioned - we like to vote on Election Day). Anyway, I reached a really pleasant spoken Black woman (and yes I can tell from the voice!) and she told me that we have "curbside voting" down here on Election Day, as they've found that it makes it easier for elderly or infirm people. I'd never heard of that and asked her how it worked and all and then said I'd heard on the local news that 25% of voters in my little suburban town had voted early and that that should cut down on the long lines on Election Day - she replied, with a deep sigh, "I sure hope so, we've been busy as all get out since early voting started."
I then said I'd heard that some county in Virgina, I believed had already had more early voters voting than they had registered to vote in the county (!) and maybe folks were coming in from other counties to vote because the lines were too long.
She replied "Oh, no, that's all due to Voter Fraud, I have no doubt of that at all. We've already picked off well over 100 right here in xxxxxxxx" (the small town that I live in) and that she "thought that the voter fraud was all due to ACORN fasley trying to get ineligible people to register and vote the same day." I didn't want to pursue the matter with her, so I dropped it - but it was an interesting development because I didn't know that in some states you can register and vote the same day!

I am focusing on the question , rather than the answer. Because that is where Obama's head was at.

What's up with the Series? Last I saw they were playing in a driving rain with standing puddles on the infield, Phillies up 2-1. They should have stopped the game. Baseball should be played in more pastoral conditions. TV revenue I'm sure plays a role in deciding to postpone.

re: #6 RightLogic

Michelle Obama on Leno. I'd rather stand in the cold rain in Philly as the Tampa Bay's bat boy than listen to her drivel.

Perhaps we aren't giving Obama enough credit. He truly did humanity a service by jumping on that grenade. Men the world over should thank him for taking her off the market.

Or it is another bad case of his 'judgment'...

/I can be such a jerk....

A shout out to you fellow lizards. Been too busy to comment recently, though my past comments were not extensive. Have also been engaged in vigorous internet debate with old high-school classmate lefties. Tiresome work.

re: #18 Charles

Actually I have taken a number of courses in the subject. Bull shit. Pure Bull shit.

re: #10 missykrissy

I don't have the answer you seek, just want to say that nothing is "off topic" on an open thread...

re: #23 pat

I am focusing on the question , rather than the answer. Because that is where Obama's head was at.

So is the question in the clouds or in the sand?

Bacchus's daddy

Interesting name. Tell me, when Bacchus was a baby, did he wine a lot?

re: #25 Oh no...Sand People!

I would sway more to his level of judgement. Either that he was told that she was the one for him.

/and I can be one too, if required.

re: #21 gmsc

From the look of things, she saves plenty by purchasing only the finest patterns from Levitz.

Oh Gosh, she was wearing something after, I think the second or third debate that honest to God looked like my parents' sofa from 1976 had swallowed Michelle Obama (aka the Shrew).

Obviously the Shrew is taking fashion tips from Nancy "I can't get my headscarf to match my rouge" Pelosi...

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

So is the question in the clouds or in the sand?

"The ants are my friends, they're blowing in the wind . . ."

re: #24 JohnAdams

Had to stop the game for an Obama infomercial...

re: #15 JohnAdams

Sadly, I fear that cult is pushing Obambi to the same. Had they held off a senate term or two, let him actually be a senator, separate himself from Chicago politics, become a DC politican; actually accomplish something, he would have been an acceptable candidate. Perhaps even learned a thing or two and changed his politics.

Currently, he does not have the wisdom and experience to stop/prevent the polarization that has occurred. He probably wants to be a great unifier, but is a great divider. Too much, too soon.

Like so many child celebrities grown-up -- a big part of the problem is bad handlers. The individuals carry the ultimate responsibility, and evenutally, the piper has to be paid.

/pollyanna-ish I know

re: #1 CapeCoddah

Fresh Air!

Time square!

re: #31 BlueCanuck

I would sway more to his level of judgement. Either that he was told that she was the one for him.

/and I can be one too, if required.

Heh.

re: #18 Charles

I'm not a legal lizard, but here is a slightly more condensed explanation of legal realism:

"It's hard not to feel that our public culture, and our public discourse about law, would be a lot healthier if the truth of legal realism were more widely acknowledged. Consider the battle over federal court nominations: if we're realists, then we can say plainly that these are battles over life-time appointments of government agents who will be called on to make moral and political judgments, by which the force of the state will be brought to bear against the parties so judged. Ergo, it is perfectly reasonable, indeed, appropriate, for Senators to oppose nominations on moral and political grounds. The surprising thing, then, about the defeat of the Estrada nomination is not that he was defeated, but that so many others were given a free pass. These aren't battles over appointing the best "legal technicians"; these are battles over the appointment of mini-legislators. If the President doesn't nominate reasonably bipartisan legislators to the federal appeals courts, a Senate with a differing political cast of mind shouldn't approve any of them. Isn't it that simple? Well, it is if you're a legal realist."

[Link: leiterreports.typepad.com...]

re: #27 pat

Bull shit. Pure Bull shit.

You're plagiarizing my students' faculty evaluations!

Your correspondent is full of crap.

Obama's words are entirely straightforward, he was not talking about an academic post-modernist legal theory.

So how did Nobamas infomercial go tonight anyway?

re: #34 brainwizard73

Had to stop the game for an Obama infomercial...

Infomercial? Boy, Billy Mays will try and sell anything!

What would happen if a major newspaper changed its endorsement of Obama (besides pigs flying) to McCain? Is it possible at this point and has it ever happened? This of course would be due to his plans to "spread the wealth", and continuing questions regarding his associations.

re: #25 Oh no...Sand People!

Perhaps we aren't giving Obama enough credit. He truly did humanity a service by jumping on that grenade. Men the world over should thank him for taking her off the market.

Or it is another bad case of his 'judgment'...

/I can be such a jerk....

I had this idea before the GOP convention to make this t-shirt...but didn't...regret is a bitch...

Imagine a t-shirt with the pissed off, open mouthed Michelle Obama on it...

Imagine this on the shirt:

"One man's burden. Why should we bail him out?"

re: #40 itellu3times

Um, that was a comment on Charles' #18.

re: #25 Oh no...Sand People!

Perhaps we aren't giving Obama enough credit. He truly did humanity a service by jumping on that grenade. Men the world over should thank him for taking her off the market.

Or it is another bad case of his 'judgment'...

/I can be such a jerk....

Bordering on Kos-like sophomoric viciousness...though I often enjoy your other posts!

Question for the night:

How did the Walnut Creek, CA lizard party go last night? I still haven't heard!

re: #18 Charles

Just another liberal in total denial of what is plainly before their eyes.

re: #27 pat

I have a vague sense of how this fits in, too, but it sounds like a lot of ivory tower intellectualism-cum-judical fiat whoring...

re: #36 poopeedoo

Time square!

The chores!

re: #44 brainwizard73

I had this idea before the GOP convention to make this t-shirt...but didn't...regret is a bitch...

Imagine a t-shirt with the pissed off, open mouthed Michelle Obama on it...

Imagine this on the shirt:

"One man's burden. Why should we bail him out?"

I just bolded and italicized your second shirt slogan using the same picture.

HEY, whaddya know, I got in. Woot!

re: #35 ggt

Not pollyannish...correct. In the good way!

re: #46 JohnAdams

Nope not even close to KOS. Having waded around that cesspool once or twice that would be considered the height of niceness.

re: #10 missykrissy

Trivial request - but as this seems a gathering of the wise ( or at least wide-spread) I would ask for your opinion/insight.

Anyone know anything about Seton Hill College? Esp the quality/sanity of the Grad School Creative Writing program?

Again, many thanks and appologies for the off-topic nature of my request.

No clue. My creative writing only extends to program design and requirement documentation. And that is already too much overhead.

I just saw a pic of Michele O on Leno... not a Jackie O by far.

Putting this delicately: the MSM chosen shots of her have been more than flattering, they have also diminished her actual stature.

no sarc intended

re: #21 gmsc

I don't want a lot of jokes on this, because I think Michelle does a lot of work to keep herself healthy and in shape. She is a tall women who has the shape of a women. She has to spend money for good a good seamstress to alter those clothes to fit her shape. It isn't cheap. She looks too polished and professional.

I don't begrudge her any of it. I do think she has actually worked to earn money --(not so sure about her husband). There is no sin in prosperity.

I feel the same about Palin's wardrobe. Many people don't realize that people who have all those designer duds they wear once or twice --donate them or "pass-them-down" to employees when they are finished with them.

re: #7 gmsc

We did electricity stuff on last night's thread, so how about chemistry tonight?

we did a small bit on firearms too
but it did not last long (enough)

re: #46 JohnAdams

Bordering on Kos-like sophomoric viciousness...though I often enjoy your other posts!

If it's good enough for the anti Palin crowd.

/Thanks...I need deflating now and again.

re: #36 poopeedoo

Time square!

You are my wife
Goodbye City Life!

re: #50 gmsc

The chores!

The stores!

re: #57 ggt

I don't want a lot of jokes on this, because I think Michelle does a lot of work to keep herself healthy and in shape. She is a tall women who has the shape of a women. She has to spend money for good a good seamstress to alter those clothes to fit her shape. It isn't cheap. She looks too polished and professional.

I don't begrudge her any of it. I do think she has actually worked to earn money --(not so sure about her husband). There is no sin in prosperity.

I feel the same about Palin's wardrobe. Many people don't realize that people who have all those designer duds they wear once or twice --donate them or "pass-them-down" to employees when they are finished with them.

That little red jacket that was copied in the SNL skits might be worth more than its original price as a collector's item.

re: #51 Oh no...Sand People!

I just bolded and italicized your second shirt slogan using the same picture.

Darn it!

I call copyright first...my intellectual property? Do you hear?

When I am living in a van down by the river with my wife and three kids after losing my house to Obama's tax increases my misty notions of irreverent slams past will be the only thing to keep me warm...

re: #42 gmsc

Infomercial? Boy, Billy Mays will try and sell anything!

WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

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Just imagine - you'll get the young, clean and articulate Obama PLUS the oft unintelligible plug-headed Biden FOR THE PRICE OF OBAMA ALONE!

And all this, for the low, low price of 56 percent of your annual income! Supplies are limited, so order NOW!

re: #18 Charles Huh, I must have missed class on the day that Realist Theory was taught.
I do know that the Warren Court in particular was heavily criticised for "creating" consitutional protections where none existed before. Some earlier 20th century SCOTUS decisions were somewhat the same.
For example, in Brown V. Board of Education (which Obama talks about) the SCOTUS held as a matter of constitutional law that "seperate" could NEVER be equal and struck down the "Jim Crow Laws" in the South that provided that "colored" children would go to "colored schools" only and Whites would go to White Schools only.
The Warren Court was particularly adept at finding constitutional limitations on Free Speech, which Mr. Justice Hugo Black called "Poppycock - the Constitution says 'Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech' and that therefore there was NOTHING in the Constitution for the Supreme Court to "interpret". [emphasis added, realwest]
But whether that was part of the so called "Realist
Theory" (the Warren Court's decision in, for example, NY Times vs Sullivan) I don't know.

re: #58 Adrenalyn

Near the end of my time we slipped a bit and entered another vein. (cardiovascular that is.)

re: #56 slokat

I just saw a pic of Michele O on Leno... not a Jackie O by far.

Putting this delicately: the MSM chosen shots of her have been more than flattering, they have also diminished her actual stature.

no sarc intended

You're right. Michelle Obama is undoubtedly smart and driven but she also has a major chip on her shoulder. Barack does too, but he hides it in public. She sometimes does not, and that can make her drive and ferocity a liability.

re: #18 Charles

Even after several readings it still sounds like an over-the-top excuse for legislation from the bench.

re: #59 Oh no...Sand People!

If it's good enough for the anti Palin crowd.

/Thanks...I need deflating now and again.

Get out your Obama tire gauge and pump that back up...the Shrew demands your downright meanness. I've seen a lot worse...

re: #57 ggt

I don't want a lot of jokes on this, because I think Michelle does a lot of work to keep herself healthy and in shape. She is a tall women who has the shape of a women. She has to spend money for good a good seamstress to alter those clothes to fit her shape. It isn't cheap. She looks too polished and professional.

I don't begrudge her any of it. I do think she has actually worked to earn money --(not so sure about her husband). There is no sin in prosperity.

I feel the same about Palin's wardrobe. Many people don't realize that people who have all those designer duds they wear once or twice --donate them or "pass-them-down" to employees when they are finished with them.

In shape?
She is huge imo

Hey guys,

Please humor me that relink to a spinoff from a different thread.

Another excellent video by TheMouthPeace.

Covers the wave of conservatives elected throughout the world, the economic history proving big government = problems, small government = economic stability, the Democratic link to the Mortgage crisis, and shows the truth about the economy under Bush.

Great video, highly recommend you check it out.

McCain/Palin 2008

re: #18 Charles

one definition:
"the view that the subject matter is of politics is political power, not a matter of principle"

The emailer is saying that Barack Obama jolly well meant what he jolly well said.
That is if I still understand English.

re: #53 JohnAdams

thanks

re: #63 brainwizard73

Darn it!

I call copyright first...my intellectual property? Do you hear?

When I am living in a van down by the river with my wife and three kids after losing my house to Obama's tax increases my misty notions of irreverent slams past will be the only thing to keep me warm...

I am cleaning up the hi rez version of my avatar and making that into a shirt.

re: #65 realwest

Good evening realwest; I sent you an email this afternoon, but then had to go do things out in the world.

re: #56 slokat

I just saw a pic of Michele O on Leno... not a Jackie O by far.

Putting this delicately: the MSM chosen shots of her have been more than flattering, they have also diminished her actual stature.

no sarc intended

Chick's a beast...I think we might be electing the first woman President...I mean, have you seen her?

(stiffling Sigourney Weaver/Chewbacca reference)

re: #59 Oh no...Sand People!

If it's good enough for the anti Palin crowd.

/Thanks...I need deflating now and again.

I think the thing that has sold me most on McCain (I was never a big fan) is that he has managed to keep his dignity in the face of a barrage of barbaric bullshit coming from the soul-less Left. That requires true discipline.

That said, if it was just you and me talking, we could definitely have a few laughs with some of these characters!

re: #62 Moe Katz

Sell it on ebay --turn a profit? How capitalistic of you!

re: #73 rawmuse

one definition: CORRECTED by one word, sorry, mis-paste
"the view that the subject matter is of politics is political power, not a matter of principle"

The emailer is saying that Barack Obama jolly well meant what he jolly well said.
That is if I still understand English.

re: #56 slokat

I just saw a pic of Michele O on Leno... not a Jackie O by far.

Putting this delicately: the MSM chosen shots of her have been more than flattering, they have also diminished her actual stature.

no sarc intended

I may take flak for this, but I think she is somewhat attractive honestly.
To each their own.

re: #50 gmsc

The chores!

Green Acres pop quiz:

Who played Arnold Ziffel?

re: #82 Opilio

Green Acres pop quiz:

Who played Arnold Ziffel?

Several different pigs. I can't name them all. Sorry.

Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered is now at: Views: 1,633,398

From just over 200 when it first went up on LGF last night to now roaring close to two million tonight.

A mighty blow.

My report from the weekend.
Cavalry trip to Nevada

It’s 1:00AM and I just got dropped off from my trip to Clark County Nevada, to assist the McCain campaign in Nevada.
My friend and neighbor Diane agreed to give me a ride and we left at 4:30 AM Saturday morning to Torrance. She picked me up with her dog Lola ( a Chihuahua dressed in her own little fur coat), and dropped me off in Torrance. I and 25 other volunteers boarded a bus and went to Burbank. We picked up another 30 McCaniacs there and proceeded to Las Vegas. We made calls on our cell phones to get out the vote on the way, and when we arrived at McCain HQ in Henderson we were greeted by Dennis Miller! He thanked us for our efforts, and after a BBQ we were dispatched in vans to different neighborhoods with booklets containing maps and addresses. My assigned partner and I, Gerri walked 120 doors that day. We were picked up in the afternoon and taken back to HQ and the Hilton.
The next morning we were taken to Boulder City, and we walked another 80.
I have to say the most redeeming part of this whole exercise was when people we inquired on would shake my hand, look me in the eye and personally thank me for my efforts.
This election is far from over!
My second most redeeming moment was when my friend Heidi called and offered me a ride home on Sunday. My feet were tired and it was hot, but I felt I needed to continue in my efforts. When I lamented to Gerri that I had just turned down a four hour drive with one of my favoritest people on the planet, she replied “Your reward will be in heaven”.
I responded: “ I know Heidi will be there, I just hope I make the cut”!
We ended up knocking 10,000 doors on Saturday (collectively) and doubling it Sunday.
I’m going back next weekend. They are sending 4 buses from Cali and I know I am accomplishing much more than my 1 vote in California ever could!

God Bless America!

re: #57 ggt

I don't want a lot of jokes on this, because I think Michelle does a lot of work to keep herself healthy and in shape. She is a tall women who has the shape of a women. She has to spend money for good a good seamstress to alter those clothes to fit her shape. It isn't cheap. She looks too polished and professional.

I don't begrudge her any of it. I do think she has actually worked to earn money --(not so sure about her husband). There is no sin in prosperity.

I feel the same about Palin's wardrobe. Many people don't realize that people who have all those designer duds they wear once or twice --donate them or "pass-them-down" to employees when they are finished with them.

You are right about women needing professional clothes...there are a lot of worthy places that can help you there...

I should note for the record that as much as I rip the Shrew (and there is some fertle ground there) if she were a conservative, a Republican and I had met her in college...hey, who knows...

re: #82 Opilio

Green Acres pop quiz:

Who played Arnold Ziffel?

I don't know, but he was a real pig.

re: #78 JohnAdams

I think the thing that has sold me most on McCain (I was never a big fan) is that he has managed to keep his dignity in the face of a barrage of barbaric bullshit coming from the soul-less Left. That requires true discipline.

That said, if it was just you and me talking, we could definitely have a few laughs with some of these characters!

sorry to disagree
but that demeanor is what got us in the trouble we're now in
Bush endured this for 8 years now without a whimper
when he shold have stood fast and resolute

instead he surrendered, let the left have his way with him
and then takes the blame for it all

no, I want a leader
if I want pussy, I will go to a singles bar

re: #70 Typicalwhitey

If you look at her arms and waist --she is athletic. Can't help the shape G-d gives you. If you have curves, you will always have curves.

re: #76 jaunte Good evening my friend! I did receive it and did reply to you!

re: #64 Intrepid

Clever! Earned ya an up-ding! ;)

re: #84 Syrah

Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered is now at: Views: 1,633,398

From just over 200 when it first went up on LGF last night to now roaring close to two million tonight.

A mighty blow.

yes, and good on you for sending the link to Drudge
I watched as you sent it and he first had a small line about it
then he must have REALLY thought about the import
THEN it went full headline

cool

re: #18 Charles

Legal Realism

still doesn't excuse Obama's remarks though

I cancelled our cable today, officially. I felt sickened every time I clicked past a channel and heard the droning voice and lies of "the one" assaulting my sanity - what is left of it. This does feel like a Brave New World.

Then I put on 'ocean sounds' on my white noise machine and fired up LGF, and a sense of serenity and optimism has enveloped me.

re: #6 RightLogic

Michelle Obama on Leno.

Do Barack and Mavis (Jay's wife) know about this?

re: #75 Oh no...Sand People!

Solid. Wondering if I would have to explain that one to anyone or whether it would be self-explanatory...then again, we are going to elect Obama, so some explination may be in order to the average viewer.

re: #6 RightLogic

Michelle Obama on Leno. I'd rather stand in the cold rain in Philly as the Tampa Bay's bat boy than listen to her drivel.

I can't stand her. After that "not good for my children" bullshit, and the whining about cutting back on piano lessons in hard times, I just can't look at her. She's ugly on the outside/ugly on the inside, and her eyes are frightening. She constantly looks like she'd sooner kill you and eat your liver than talk to you.

I normally don't have reactions to people's physical appearance, but she gives me the willies. If Zero wins, I bet the Secret Service is just going to love her.

re: #90 realwest

Ah, good. Hope you enjoyed the message.

re: #65 realwest
Ah, addendum there concerning NY Times vs Sullivan, I'm quoting from Wiki (which does have it correct!)

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964),[1] was a United States Supreme Court case which established the actual malice standard which has to be met before press reports about public officials or public figures can be considered to be defamation and libel; and hence allowed free reporting of the civil rights campaigns in the southern United States. It is one of the key decisions supporting the freedom of the press. The actual malice standard requires that the plaintiff in a defamation or libel case prove that the publisher of the statement in question knew that the statement was false or acted in reckless disregard of its truth or falsity. Because of the extremely high burden of proof on the plaintiff, and the difficulty in proving essentially what is inside a person's head, such cases — when they involve public figures — rarely prevail.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #94 DistantThunder

I cancelled our cable today, officially. I felt sickened every time I clicked past a channel and heard the droning voice and lies of "the one" assaulting my sanity - what is left of it. This does feel like a Brave New World.

Then I put on 'ocean sounds' on my white noise machine and fired up LGF, and a sense of serenity and optimism has enveloped me.

There is something about That One's voice that I find very annoying as well.

re: #96 brainwizard73

Solid. Wondering if I would have to explain that one to anyone or whether it would be self-explanatory...then again, we are going to elect Obama, so some explination may be in order to the average viewer.

"we"?

emphasis mine

Was anyone else here at the Nascar race in Atlanta on Sunday? If so, who was it that made the pro second amendment and 2008 election comments during the pre race festivities?

re: #78 JohnAdams

I think the thing that has sold me most on McCain (I was never a big fan) is that he has managed to keep his dignity in the face of a barrage of barbaric bullshit coming from the soul-less Left. That requires true discipline.

That said, if it was just you and me talking, we could definitely have a few laughs with some of these characters!

Taking it like a 'Beeeotch' in prison, and spouting infantile like I did are TWO different things.

I see what you are saying, but G.W. playing his 'silent leader' about killed me off. You got to step up and attack. You can hit hard without insults, but you call them, the opponent, out long and hard. G.W. thought he was taking the 'high road' by not really responding.

If McCain doesn't step it up...he is done for. He can't follow in the myth of the 'high road' that G.W. bought into and never back his base up. I can't let them rely on talk radio and the blogs to carry their water anymore.

re: #91 poopeedoo

Clever! Earned ya an up-ding! ;)

Thankee kindly. Ol' Billy is so easy to write for. And why the heck does he have to yell everything?

:-)

re: #88 Adrenalyn

sorry to disagree
but that demeanor is what got us in the trouble we're now in
Bush endured this for 8 years now without a whimper
when he shold have stood fast and resolute

instead he surrendered, let the left have his way with him
and then takes the blame for it all

no, I want a leader
if I want pussy, I will go to a singles bar

Heh. Touche. To each his own in the wild Republic.

re: #18 Charles

I mean you’ve got World War II, you’ve got uh, uh, uh, the doctrines of Nazism, that, that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home.”

Everything that person who emailed you may be true, realist doctrines exist in many fields of social science. And it may also be true that some people in the 1940s felt uncomfortable about the fact that segregation existed in the US and they might have noted that the Nazis also had enforced segregation. The difference of course, was that this country was moving along a continuum from slavery to freedom - not overnight, of course, but still going in the right direction whereas Germany was doing the opposite.

You'd think a law professor as exalted as Obama would have noted the difference and not made such an incendiary and false comparison.

re: #97 Pawn of the Oppressor

I haven't liked her since the interview where she said Barack could go to the gas station and get shot because he is black.
She forgot to mention that odds were he would be shot by another black man.

re: #92 Adrenalyn

yes, and good on you for sending the link to Drudge
I watched as you sent it and he first had a small line about it
then he must have REALLY thought about the import
THEN it went full headline

cool

I would like to take credit, but I think that I was just one of many.

It would be nice to have had a hand, even if just in a small way, in trashing Obama's dreams of power and glory.

On a positive note, the GOP has been sending out a lot of fine campaign brochures to voters here in Virginia, covering the gamut from Rezco to squishiness on fighting crime in general.

A large postcard on energy policy the state GOP sent is designed beautifully. On one side you have McCain at a podium giving a speech on a perky, sunny day: "New Energy-Producing Jobs in Virginia" w/ his pledge to pursue nuclear energy and coal, etc. On the back, against a dead black background, a grumpy Barack Obama is decrying "dirty energy, like coal," and a screaming Biden declares "We don't support clean coal." With big red NO's, they outline the Dems' policy of NO drilling, NO nukes, NO coal, and NO refineries. Very effective.

re: #94 DistantThunder

I cancelled our cable today, officially. I felt sickened every time I clicked past a channel and heard the droning voice and lies of "the one" assaulting my sanity - what is left of it. This does feel like a Brave New World.

Then I put on 'ocean sounds' on my white noise machine and fired up LGF, and a sense of serenity and optimism has enveloped me.

I canceled mine 2 years ago, DT. I don't miss it at all. I thought I'd miss Fox News, but nope. I get my news from here, Drudge, Breitbart, Washington Times, and talk radio. So instead of watching TV when I'm at home, I listen to the radio.

re: #89 ggt

Now, a discussion of women's curves as it relates to women in politics and how they are viewed by wider society? That sounds like a good topic with lots of potential.

Or it could descend to the lowest common denominator...

[ducks brick from female Lizards]
my point exactly...

Trivia:

This October 30th, it will be exactly 70 years since Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" broadcast that cause a panic in many parts of the country!

I can't cancel cable --I know i can watch C-SPAN on the computer --bbbbut what about Sci-Fi.

no Sci-Fi --the HORROR!

re: #105 JohnAdams

Heh. Touche. To each his own in the wild Republic.

I do not mean to be taken as vehemently disgreeing with you though.
I think we both know how grim things are.
Even if McCain wins
he has the democrats and media to contend with

and I think Bush proved you cannot work WITH them

I sure hope McCain realizes this eventually
and if he does not
Palin in 2012 fo sho will

re: #101 ggt

"we"?

emphasis mine

Again, I am self-depricating without meaning to be so...

re: #22 realwest

I didn't know that in some states you can register and vote the same day!

It cuts down on the time and expense of verifying the legal status of the registered voter.
/

re: #15 JohnAdams

No question Obama is a full-blown personality cult. I swear, the roots of this go back to the day JFK was killled in Dallas. A whole generation had their naivete destroyed, and they have kept that bitterness all this time. Finally, they have their new messiah to avenge that day. It is so utterly out of proportion to reality that I really feel sorry for Obama, even despite the fact that he seems to embrace it.

The left has always had this problem of idolizing human leaders to fill their religion-shaped hole.

If you want real entertainment, go to Dealy Plaza on the anniversary of JFK's death. The JFK Troofers are there with signs, and they actually re-enact the whole thing with a JFK look-alike in a limo. It's like watching some bizarre death-and-rebirth ceremony for an ancient Mesopotamian god. All that's missing is torchlight and chanting.

You can't tell any of these people that JFK was actually getting us further into Vietnam, and that he was anti-Communist, and that he was killed by a "silly little Communist", as Jackie said.

People want to believe. That's all there is to it.

re: #96 brainwizard73

Solid. Wondering if I would have to explain that one to anyone or whether it would be self-explanatory...then again, we are going to elect Obama, so some explination may be in order to the average viewer.

I am putting it on the front...I don't want to get mashed in the back of the head by someone screaming, 'BIGOT!' Not much 'splaining I can do when I am unconscious. lol.

The discredited doctrine of legal realism is still very much with us, but we call it "judicial activism" these days; and liberals, of course, are its exclusive practitioners.

re: #93 gman From your link

Legal Realists advance two general claims: 1) Law is often indeterminate and judges, accordingly, must and do often draw on extralegal considerations to resolve the disputes before them. 2) The best answer to the question "What is (the) law?" is "Whatever judges or other relevant officials do".

That is probably an accurate summary of the saying "the law is whatever the judge had for breakfast or lunch" which is an old canard that's been around for years. But it shouldn't apply to Federal Judges, much less Justices of the Supreme Court in interpreting the U.S. Consitution. Indeed, where written documents are concerned, Judges of any court are only supposed to interpose their "interpretation" of what the document says if there is any ambiguity in the document.
That's why I mentioned Justice Black's response in my #65.

re: #108 Syrah

I would like to take credit, but I think that I was just one of many.

It would be nice to have had a hand, even if just in a small way, in trashing Obama's dreams of power and glory.

ah Syrah
I am in such a negative mood tonight
that I thought by saying something nice
I'd elevate my own spririts a bit
just to see someone else be happy for a while

but January makes me quiver
with every sermon he'll deliver
the day
the USA died......

re: #112 gmsc

Trivia:

This October 30th, it will be exactly 70 years since Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds" broadcast that cause a panic in many parts of the country!

I remember it well, I was -33 years old.

re: #113 ggt

I can't cancel cable --I know i can watch C-SPAN on the computer --bbbbut what about Sci-Fi.

no Sci-Fi --the HORROR!

Oh yeah. Gotta find out how Battlestar Galactica winds up, so we gotta have the Sci-Fi channel.

.just to take a, sort of a realist perspective...there’s a lot of change going on outside of the Court, um, that, that judges essentially have to take judicial notice of. I mean you’ve got World War II, you’ve got uh, uh, uh, the doctrines of Nazism, that, that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home.”

In my opinion, Barry uses the realist perspective to drive home the Nazi connection, in effect make it more palatable to his audience.

re: #104 Intrepid

Thankee kindly. Ol' Billy is so easy to write for. And why the heck does he have to yell everything?

:-)

To quote Master Thespian, "Acting!"

raining buckets here outside Philly.

re: #111 brainwizard73

It's best to take each female on a case by case study. I don't group my attractions just to the physical, but also to the mental and emotional as well. I have seen some beautiful ladies that were ugly, and ugly ladies that were absolutely gorgeous. According to the way media defines beauty that is.

/in love with the female form in all its shapes and sizes. :)

re: #98 jaunte
I did my friend - and said so in my reply - did you not receive my reply?!?

re: #84 Syrah

Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered is now at: Views: 1,633,398

From just over 200 when it first went up on LGF last night to now roaring close to two million tonight.

A mighty blow.

Yes it is. I think that interview is the hit that sinks Obama. The October surprise is one the Dems ultimately sprung on themselves by nominating Obama.

re: #81 Oh no...Sand People!

I may take flak for this, but I think she is somewhat attractive honestly.
To each their own.

Actually you are on to something... I just searched google & AP pics, and almost all pics show her from the waist up, which is a flattering shot for her.

The web available info on her puts her at 5-11 or 6 foot & 175... I would say that 205 is closer to accurate.

This means nothing other than that tonight was the first time I saw a camera angle that made me wonder why the MSM pictures were only focusing on her face. Nothing earth shaking, just a small anomaly.

And, as always beauty exists differently for each eye...

re: #128 realwest

I'm having trouble accessing work email from home, so must wait 'til tomorrow.

re: #111 brainwizard73

Actually, I hate when the serious discussion deteriorates to stupid. As it does when the subect of clothing or hairstyles, etc. It's one thing to joke around on a "boob" thread, but another to have a "serious" conversation about the merits of a person/candidate based on their appearance --unless they are falling down drunk or stoned, Obviously hungover or showing signs of illness.

It's on the same par as discussing someones merits based on the color of their skin. Stupid, and lowers us into DKos territory.

I thought the rip on Palin about her wardrobe was stupid as well. Just don't want Lizards falling into the trap.

re: #122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

It took me a while to catch the "-" sign on the 33. I was like...DUDE! You win the 'hippest' to technology award.

Here is an example of Legal Realism.

The judge says
"The Law/Constitution is whatever I say it is."

In other words, it is tyranny, pure and simple.

re: #103 Oh no...Sand People!

Taking it like a 'Beeeotch' in prison, and spouting infantile like I did are TWO different things.

I see what you are saying, but G.W. playing his 'silent leader' about killed me off. You got to step up and attack. You can hit hard without insults, but you call them, the opponent, out long and hard. G.W. thought he was taking the 'high road' by not really responding.

If McCain doesn't step it up...he is done for. He can't follow in the myth of the 'high road' that G.W. bought into and never back his base up. I can't let them rely on talk radio and the blogs to carry their water anymore.

True enough. Hard to argue with the fact McCain has left plenty on the table , though how much is due to his civility and how much to a lack of fight is tougher to debate. So much of the ugliness is not coming directly from Obama, but from his henchmen and the minions of total turdbuckets who desecrate Sarah Palin as though she were a French whore.

I'm no saint by any means. And I do believe that McCain could, in a measured, respectful way, cut Obama to ribbons if he would only choose to do so. I find that frustrating as well, that he is not able to do that.

re: #106 Irene NYC
Hi Irene! I didn't think Obama was a "law professor" I thought he was an instructor or some such (and believe me there is a HUGE difference there).

re: #124 gman

In my opinion, Barry uses the realist perspective to drive home the Nazi connection, in effect make it more palatable to his audience.

I am actually beginning to think that Obama is the one who doesn't understand judicial realism, especially as it related to the Third Reich.
German law said one thing, German judges said something else. Without the primacy of the latter, the realist perspective, the Nazi regime could not have existed.

re: #78 JohnAdams

I think the thing that has sold me most on McCain (I was never a big fan) is that he has managed to keep his dignity in the face of a barrage of barbaric bullshit coming from the soul-less Left. That requires true discipline.

That said, if it was just you and me talking, we could definitely have a few laughs with some of these characters!

I agree. Even though I think his campaign has been a bit weak, McCain has managed to keep the dignity of the office of President intact. Obama's campaign is being run like something out of the Huey Long Playbook. Or maybe, he's like those Populists of the 1890s who, in their desperation to win, set back race relations for the next 70 or so years. I.e. Demagogues. Obama is a soft-spoken demagogue who runs a corrupt campaign. He will go down in history, win or lose, as a bad guy.

(Thank you Mr. Sandman for making me search my brains for long-forgotten American history facts.)

Why is Obamessiah still ahead in all the polls?

How the F*** could he still be ahead?

re: #113 ggt

When I was weighing the pros and cons of cable I looked at how much time I spent watching T.V. and how many cables I viewed. Turned out I was watching about 10 channels on a regular basis. 5 of them were "specialty" channels. Total cost of cable bill $50. Haven't had cable for over 5 years. Made a good choice too. Most t.v. shows Iwant to watch are now coming out on DVD about two to three months after the season is done. Best part I don't get the annoying cliffhangers or commercials. :)

McCain also has to consider that
just because the democrats nominated 0bama in spite of Wright
does not mean non-democrats should not be reminded of it

after all, "I" did not vote in the democrat primary
so that kerfuffle did not involve me, then

the key word is "then"

Mr. McCain ?

My fellow Americans:

I have a small piece of good news...

My brother, who grew up normal in a religious and upper middle class household learning what it took to be a good American (although a bit more lefty than his more successful and better looking older brother...I digress) had previously voted, I kid you not, for Ralph Nader. Don't ask me why...I think he was drunk off his ass or something...but he did it, and my family will bear the mark of shame the rest of our collective history.

ANYWAY, the prodigal son has returned!

He was bit nervous about Obama's lack of record and faux-post racial/partisanship bit, but he emailed me 6 times today about the "economic redistribution" comments. You see, for the first time in his life...he just finished his PhD...he earns a real paycheck and this "stealing from the rich and maybe giving to the poor" line isn't cool.

So, one from the Nader to the McCain camp. Hey, I didn't think it would happen either, but thank God for truth in Marxism.

Obama sez:

There is no city or town that is more pro-America than anywhere else - we are one nation, all of us proud, all of us patriots.

I thought he visited Berkeley.

re: #126 DistantThunder

raining buckets here outside Philly.

You'd never know that from watching the World series! : )
/

re: #135 JohnAdams

True enough. Hard to argue with the fact McCain has left plenty on the table , though how much is due to his civility and how much to a lack of fight is tougher to debate. So much of the ugliness is not coming directly from Obama, but from his henchmen and the minions of total turdbuckets who desecrate Sarah Palin as though she were a French whore.

I'm no saint by any means. And I do believe that McCain could, in a measured, respectful way, cut Obama to ribbons if he would only choose to do so. I find that frustrating as well, that he is not able to do that.

Not to be a downer, but, though this is the MSM we are talking about here, it seems that it is all Palin who is wanting to fight and talking when the 'handlers' are trying to keep her down.
As Rush says though, "We will drag him across the finish line".

For me it is not Michelles's clothing but rather her glowering affect that is off putting. Clearly Obama is an appeaser in his personal life as well to tolerate someone so negative and overly sensitive to perceived ,real or imagined, injustices. I think she would qualify as a toxic person.

re: #118 Oh no...Sand People!

I think the Kennedy family has a way of making that work...a few Johnnie Walkers...a Nissan...the wall of a parking garage or a bridge...

re: #85 KZnextzone

Bravo for you!
We ALL thank you so much!

re: #15 JohnAdams

No question Obama is a full-blown personality cult. I swear, the roots of this go back to the day JFK was killled in Dallas. A whole generation had their naivete destroyed, and they have kept that bitterness all this time. Finally, they have their new messiah to avenge that day. It is so utterly out of proportion to reality that I really feel sorry for Obama, even despite the fact that he seems to embrace it.

Gonna repeat a post from I made on a previous thread:

BHO sort of reminds me of someone else from a long time back.

I Shook Up The World. . .

re: #133 Oh no...Sand People!

It took me a while to catch the "-" sign on the 33. I was like...DUDE! You win the 'hippest' to technology award.

Man., that would make me 103. It's getting here! Don't make it sooner!

re: #112 gmsc

Will there be a repeat?

This time it will be big eared, sexually ambigious, hair-plug covered beings trying to steal our planet's resources?

re: #116 solomonpanting
"I didn't know that in some states you can register and vote the same day!

It cuts down on the time and expense of verifying the legal status of the registered voter.
/
Well there is that to say for it! LOL!
But, seriously, this Black Woman seemed - well, exasperated I guess is the right term, for all the damn extra work she and others have had to do to cut down on Fraudulent voting (the ACORN bit was hers, too, not mine)!

re: #139 StudSupreme

Why is Obamessiah still ahead in all the polls?

How the F*** could he still be ahead?

He actually isn't. I'll find the link...

Chanting heard at rally today (pardon me if it has already been posted)
"Use your brain -- vote McCain"
I like it.

re: #149 2SoonOld2LateSmart

yeah. Cassius/Mohommed actually accomplished something and when it was taken away, he didn't whine, sue, have cult members protest, lobby Congress, he went out and won it again. Gotta respect that.

re: #149 2SoonOld2LateSmart

Gonna repeat a post from I made on a previous thread:

BHO sort of reminds me of someone else from a long time back.

I Shook Up The World. . .

I'm sorry but I disagree.
Muhammad Ali, for all his many faults, had a fundamentally generous nature.
Obamessiah is a sanctimonious bigot, a small and petty mind with grandiose pretensions, a somewhat passive malignant narcissist.

Forgive me if I sound harsh. But I see Obamessiah as an active danger to my future and my family's future.

re: #119 Shiplord Kirel
Very well put!

re: #149 2SoonOld2LateSmart

Gonna repeat a post from I made on a previous thread:

BHO sort of reminds me of someone else from a long time back.

I Shook Up The World. . .

I was thinking that very thing recently about Obama. "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee."

Except it's us he'll be stingin'.

re: #151 brainwizard73

Will there be a repeat?

This time it will be big eared, sexually ambigious, hair-plug covered beings trying to steal our planet's resources?

If there is a remake, be assured that Hollywood will completely miss the point of the original. You know, just like the movie versions of Dukes of Hazzard, Starsky and Hutch, the Beverly Hillbillies . . .

re: #136 realwest

Hi Irene! I didn't think Obama was a "law professor" I thought he was an instructor or some such (and believe me there is a HUGE difference there).

Hey real,
I've heard him referred to that way.
;)

re: #121 Adrenalyn

ah Syrah
I am in such a negative mood tonight
that I thought by saying something nice
I'd elevate my own spririts a bit
just to see someone else be happy for a while

but January makes me quiver
with every sermon he'll deliver
the day
the USA died......

For what its worth, I am thrilled that the thing has gotten so much play today.

The Lizard Army did a great thing.

I am hopeful that we might even get to see that Kahlid video sometime.

The more that people talk about it being supressed, the more it comes to represent everyones fears about who and what Obama realy is. Especialy since the LA Times is going to such great lengths to keep it under wraps.

With enough hype, they will release it just to prove that it is not as bad as it is prported to be, but the longer they wait the less that will mater.

They are playing with a two edge sword and have forgoten about the back swing.

Things are more hopeful now then they were last week.

This these last few days are our St. Crispens day.

We few who have done our small part, whether we have manned a local phone bank, helped a freind or two to get their ballot in, or helped tell the world that Obama really meant what he said with that astonishing "Spread the wealth" line, will be able to look back in the years to come and say, "I was there. . . "

So into the breach my freind. Into the the breach one more time!

(Shakespeare does it much better of course but what the heck, I was having fun.)

re: #139 StudSupreme

Why is Obamessiah still ahead in all the polls?

How the F*** could he still be ahead?

Most are 3-day running polls...

The deleterious effects of those MILLION-PLUS VIEWS of the Obama Wealth-Distribution Debacle won't become apparent in polls until approximately Thursday... and if they're negative results, will continue downward for the next three days even if something shiny and wunnerful comes public, Supreme!

re: #127 BlueCanuck

It's best to take each female on a case by case study. I don't group my attractions just to the physical, but also to the mental and emotional as well. I have seen some beautiful ladies that were ugly, and ugly ladies that were absolutely gorgeous. According to the way media defines beauty that is.

/in love with the female form in all its shapes and sizes. :)

You are right on. Personality counts for a lot. Which is why women with chips on thier shoulders the size of the Sears Tower are a bit tough to handle. But, hey, there are lot of people and they all have to love someone.

I think I'm about to 'step in it' but oh well....

I was watching some Christian programming this past Sunday morning and the pastor made an really, really good point.

How is it that a law gets passed that says if I step on a sea turtle egg (an unborn sea turtle) I get fined AND thrown in jail, but it is the law that I can choose to kill an unborn human?

Is sea turtle life more valuable than human life?

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He actually isn't. I'll find the link...

Dood,
If there's a credible poll out there that shows Obamessiah not in the lead, I'd very much like to see it.

By the way - your moniker is cool. You're a 70's guy, without a doubt
:-)

Hmmm. Was that thing that Charles is quoting on legal realism written by Brian Leiter? Sounds like it might have been.

re: #152 realwest

There are many, many Afrikan-Americans who remember or have been told stories by their parents about the struggle for the right to vote. They take it VERY seriously and are rather OCD about following procedure.

I think there is a dividing line between those that truly followed MLKjr and those that followed MalcomX.

re: #136 realwest

Senior lecturer, Glenn Beck was all over it this morning.

re: #154 wee fury

Chanting heard at rally today (pardon me if it has already been posted)
"Use your brain -- vote McCain"
I like it.

Somebody here today posted another zinger (original to this poster, and sorry that I forgot their name):

Obama-Reid-Pelosi: The Axis of Taxes

Our close friend's son, 19, just left on an LDS mission to Albania on Wedn. He's been a Phil's fan forever, but now that he's on his mission, he can't listen to radio or watch TV for 2 years. He told his parents that he doesn't want to know the outcome of the series until he comes back home - and he can watch all the games and see the outcome for himself.

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel

I am actually beginning to think that Obama is the one who doesn't understand judicial realism, especially as it related to the Third Reich.
German law said one thing, German judges said something else. Without the primacy of the latter, the realist perspective, the Nazi regime could not have existed.

But isn't that the point he makes in that example? That is, wasn't he saying that because the courts (and judges) of the time existed in a real world where support for desegregation was limited, they took a fairly narrow approach in deciding civil rights cases?

re: #169 JohnAdams

Somebody here today posted another zinger (original to this poster, and sorry that I forgot their name):

Obama-Reid-Pelosi: The Axis of Taxes

Absolutely excellent.

re: #170 DistantThunder

Our close friend's son, 19, just left on an LDS mission to Albania on Wedn. He's been a Phil's fan forever, but now that he's on his mission, he can't listen to radio or watch TV for 2 years. He told his parents that he doesn't want to know the outcome of the series until he comes back home - and he can watch all the games and see the outcome for himself.

What's an LDS mission?

re: #170 DistantThunder

Our close friend's son, 19, just left on an LDS mission to Albania on Wedn. He's been a Phil's fan forever, but now that he's on his mission, he can't listen to radio or watch TV for 2 years. He told his parents that he doesn't want to know the outcome of the series until he comes back home - and he can watch all the games and see the outcome for himself.

But he can surf the web, no?

re: #154 wee fury

Chanting heard at rally today (pardon me if it has already been posted)
"Use your brain -- vote McCain"
I like it.

I can use this to counter my brother who told me to "Think for yourself." and to stop following the Rove playbook.

Geeez.

re: #132 ggt

So is my opinion that the pics of Michelle seem intended to disguise her true size trivial? ...just wondering.

On a side note, O's profiles had him starting at 5-9 and lately standing at 6-2, must be rising in stature as he embraces the public will?

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re: #156 StudSupreme

I'm sorry but I disagree.
Muhammad Ali, for all his many faults, had a fundamentally generous nature.
Obamessiah is a sanctimonious bigot, a small and petty mind with grandiose pretensions, a somewhat passive malignant narcissist.

Forgive me if I sound harsh. But I see Obamessiah as an active danger to my future and my family's future.

True. I'll tell you what - let's see 0bama at age 54 get 1/10th the reaction that Muhammad Ali got at age 54.

re: #3 Sharmuta

McCain/Palin 08!

Check this out...saw this in front of somebody's house while on the way back home from the grocery store this afternoon:

/Nashvillians for McCain/Palin unite...VOTE VOTE VOTE!

re: #124 gman
Well

In my opinion, Barry uses the realist perspective to drive home the Nazi connection, in effect make it more palatable to his audience.

that is spot on.
In point of fact, as I mentioned above, Judicial Activism or Legal Realism developed out of the Jim Crow Laws of the South, back in the days when DEMOCRATS RAN THE SOUTH - the ENTIRE SOUTH.

re: #175 DistantThunder

I can use this to counter my brother who told me to "Think for yourself." and to stop following the Rove playbook.

Geeez.

The "Rove playbook"? Is that code for white?

re: #18 Charles

OK, so O uses a term from legal theory to aid in expressing what he sees as Nazi-like behavior in America in '54. He is not saying it is a literal truth that such behavior existed. The fact remains, he sees a different America than I do. But then I'm not black. Charles, I think this does not compare with the “redistribution of wealth” comment.

The Chosen One is now asking you to take Nov. 4 off from work/school to vote for The chosen One.
[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Complete with video.

re: #18 Charles

that the decisions of judges constitute the law, not the documents that purport to guide them

This seems to be "legislating from the bench."

What I would be interested in is what Obama meant by:

uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home.”

I don't want to listen to the whole thing, but what decisions were being made in the U.S. that were similar? And does this mean he was concerned with court decisions creating totalitarianism at home? Which decisions? Does he feel as cautious about leftist totalitarianism? Etc.

So, I'm in gym class today pushing some weights, routine is kind of mind cleansing and this thought floats through my mind, which, I admit in advance, is very ungracious. But, it was more like a subconscious thought coming up for air. And the thought was, "Well, why wouldn't Caroline Kennedy want Obama to win? She's probably a bit angry with this country too, given what happened to her father."

I know, it was a very ungenerous thought - except, like I said, I didn't really think it, it just floated up from deep down.

re: #142 brainwizard73

The angels rejoice in heaven over the sinner that hath repented!

I have already voted. Unfortunately I must work on election day.

re: #152 realwest

It's a really good thing that they're working so hard to keep the bad votes out. Good for them, and more power to them as the days roll on.

re: #165 StudSupreme

Dood,
If there's a credible poll out there that shows Obamessiah not in the lead, I'd very much like to see it.

By the way - your moniker is cool. You're a 70's guy, without a doubt
:-)

Every time I see OMD's nick, "Jackie Blue" runs through my head...

;-P

re: #153 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He actually isn't. I'll find the links...Someone else at LGF posted these a week ago. Here they are-

Here

here

And here

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

What's an LDS mission?

I can answer that
but don't want to get flamed

it's where........
aw forget it

Today's Trivia --the Original Cassius Clay.

re: #181 Point Blank

BHO is not entirely black either. He had a comfortable, middle class, white upbringing, and attended the very finest private and exclusive schools.

His blackness is just like the rest of him, it is a facade, a carefully tended artifice.

re: #165 StudSupreme

Dood,
If there's a credible poll out there that shows Obamessiah not in the lead, I'd very much like to see it.

By the way - your moniker is cool. You're a 70's guy, without a doubt
:-)

Thanks. See my #189. The polls are explained as to the phoniness.

Hopefully Obambi won't be elected, If he is I may have to do what I did with Clinton for 8 years. If he came on TV for any reason, I either turned of the TV or changed channels.

re: #107 Typicalwhitey

I haven't liked her since the interview where she said Barack could go to the gas station and get shot because he is black.
She forgot to mention that odds were he would be shot by another black man.

It was at that moment I knew that I would never vote for Obama. Michelle was clearly a vicious slimy nutcase who reveled in her race consciousness. She was a liar who was trying to foster racial animosity.

I will never ever vote for a black person, male or female, who puts inciting racial grievances above their country. The plain fact is: in Chicago, the chances of a black person being shot in a gas station by a white supremacist are almost nil. (There will always be nutcases everywhere, as we all know.) In dangerous areas in Chicago, one is always at risk obviously, but the biggest dangers at gas stations are the toughs who want to rob you. It doesn't matter what race you are.

Mid-day in Bangkok... let's see what the Noon News reports for Thailand...

/Obama and McCain have been getting a LOT of coverage here... this is IMPORTANT to the world, and Thailand knows it!

re: #132 ggt

No one (that I have ever seen on this site) has ever slammed the Shrew for being black or a woman. She gets slammed for what she says and what she does and how she can't take the heat but is willing to toss bombs left and right and then when she gets called on it, she hides behind her daughters. The Shrew is the ultimate Troll.

That being said, it is not unreasonable to view her as something of a novel concept when it comes to potential first ladies. She wants the bully pulpit but none of the responsbilitiy for her own words and actions and if that leads people to have some fun with her (especailly when her husband's party is destroying Sarah Palin on all sorts of trivial stuff), well, tough.

She's got "witch" tendancies; and that's an issue no matter if she were 6'8 or 4'6. The fact that she is a big girl only makes it more interesting.

re: #135 JohnAdams

I do believe that McCain could, in a measured, respectful way, cut Obama to ribbons if he would only choose to do so. I find that frustrating as well, that he is not able to do that.

I'm beginning to think that a much stronger (and uglier) version of this argument can be made. Years ago, John McCain heeded the call to service, responding with astounding courage and strength of character. Today, he is called to service once again, but this time he is failing his country miserably. By refusing to fight BHO, McCain is subjecting his country to enormous danger. And for what... "taking the high road"?

Every time I hear McCain in a commercial droning on about how Obama's going to raise taxes, I wish I could grab him and shake some sense into him.

Mace sprayed on Republican office workers in Galax

Is Obama or is McCain the fruit tree? All I know is that Obama is something rotten and has never produced anything, and McCain, after a lifetime of real service to his country, is McCain.

Fame is but a fruit tree
So very unsound.
It can never flourish
Till its stock is in the ground.
So men of fame
Can never find a way
Till time has flown
Far from their dying day.
Forgotten while you're here
Remembered for a while
A much updated ruin
From a much outdated style.

Life is but a memory
Happened long ago.
Theatre full of sadness
For a long forgotten show.
Seems so easy
Just to let it go on by
Till you stop and wonder
Why you never wondered why.

Safe in the womb
Of an everlasting night
You find the darkness can
Give the brightest light.
Safe in your place deep in the earth
That's when they'll know what you were really worth.
Forgotten while you're here
Remembered for a while
A much updated ruin
From a much outdated style.

Fame is but a fruit tree
So very unsound.
It can never flourish
Till its stock is in the ground.
So men of fame
Can never find a way
Till time has flown
Far from their dying day.

Fruit tree, fruit tree
No-one knows you but the rain and the air.
Don't you worry
They'll stand and stare when you're gone.

Fruit tree, fruit tree
Open your eyes to another year.
They'll all know
That you were here when you're gone.

- Nick Drake, Five Leaves Left

re: #196 Karridine

Mid-day in Bangkok... let's see what the Noon News reports for Thailand...

/Obama and McCain have been getting a LOT of coverage here... this is IMPORTANT to the world, and Thailand knows it!

Have you conducted any informal polls? Gotten any reaction from the native population?

re: #183 legalpad

I don't want to listen to the whole thing, but what decisions were being made in the U.S. that were similar? And does this mean he was concerned with court decisions creating totalitarianism at home? Which decisions? Does he feel as cautious about leftist totalitarianism? Etc.

He wasn't talking about decisions. He was talking about the prevailing social conditions at that time. Essentially, he was drawing a comparison between two situations in which specific groups of people were oppressed and victimized. That's the parallel he was making.

Testing out Safari. Nice.

So, after reading Obama's comments comparing America to Nazi Germany I can see why he's spending so much time with Dick Durban.

Unbelievable.

That one has to get on Youtube.

re: #190 Adrenalyn

I can answer that
but don't want to get flamed

it's where........
aw forget it

Just say it.

re: #143 solomonpanting

Obama sez:

There is no city or town that is more pro-America than anywhere else - we are one nation, all of us proud, all of us patriots.

I thought he visited Berkeley.

Yeah, this is a crock. What about them wanting to run the Navy out, run recruiters out, and all that? How about the Rev. "God damn America"? How about Mrs. "This is the first time I have been proud of my country?" Look, these people know they hate America. It comes oozing out of them. And Obama knows it too. What they can't accept is that people like Sarah and Joe are also America. They know damn well that they hate them.

re: #174 CommonCents

But he can surf the web, no?

No. LDS missionary is a full time voluntary missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints aka Mormons. Boys go at 19, girls at 21. It's 2 years for boys, 18 months for girls. It is self-financed for 2 years, and no computer, no TV, no radio. And no dating. They can listen to "uplifting" music. They can play basketball and other sports one day a week. They apply to the Church to be considered to go on a mission, and have to meet strict standards of preparation. After they submit all their paperwork, they receive a "mission call" to somewhere in the world. They do not know where they will be sent. It is very exciting to open a mission call letter.

Currently there are 53,000 missionaries serving.

re: #181 Point Blank

OK, so O uses a term from legal theory to aid in expressing what he sees as Nazi-like behavior in America in '54. He is not saying it is a literal truth that such behavior existed. The fact remains, he sees a different America than I do. But then I'm not black. Charles, I think this does not compare with the “redistribution of wealth” comment.

No.
Obama means what's going on in America TODAY is, in his filthy view, Nazi-like.

T H A T B A S T A R D .

re: #171 JustMyView

not because of the support in the contemporary world but because they were constrained by that constraining thing the founding fathers set up. Unduly constrained doncha know, 'cause talks about what the government can't do -- that's unfair, ought to also say what the government should do, on behalf of the people of course.

From another interview. "But every time the capital gains tax was lowered, the revenue from the tax went up, so why would you ever raise it, Senator?" "Well this goes to the fundamental fairness". Meaning, sure, the total revenue under socialism goes down, but it's important to fleece the filthy rich out of the political power. Then we'll hand out just enough tokens to the masses, to be redeemed at the government shop/clinic, and it'll all work out marvelous.

re: #117 Pawn of the Oppressor

And the left accuses Christians of being "easily led".

re: #188 talon_262

Every time I see OMD's nick, "Jackie Blue" runs through my head...

;-P

Yooooo, what a great tune!

:-)!

re: #18 Charles

The same lefty apologist calling itself "J" has posted this babble over at Gateway Pundit as well.

...just to take a, sort of a realist perspective...there’s a lot of change going on outside of the Court, um, that, that judges essentially have to take judicial notice of. I mean you’ve got World War II, you’ve got uh, uh, uh, the doctrines of Nazism, that, that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what we have going on, back here at home.”

The "realist perspective" taken out, he's still saying the America was starting to look like Nazi Germany. That's disgusting. That's the height of historical revisionism and moral relativism.

re: #190 Adrenalyn

I can answer that
but don't want to get flamed

it's where........
aw forget it

Fool that I am for not catching it. LDS = Latter Day Saints = Mormons.

re: #202 JustMyView

He wasn't talking about decisions. He was talking about the prevailing social conditions at that time. Essentially, he was drawing a comparison between two situations in which specific groups of people were oppressed and victimized. That's the parallel he was making.

Yeah, we got that JMV. The difference is - as I noted above - that the US was moving towards more freedom and the Germans were moving toward concentration camps and genocide. So, let's not be too disingenuous.

re: #159 gmsc

The aliens will rescue terrorists from GITMO...

re: #124 gman

In my opinion, Barry uses the realist perspective to drive home the Nazi connection, in effect make it more palatable to his audience.

I am somewhat confused by this, is he saying that the socialism that the nazis practiced was looking like what we were doing at home with our own socialism?

re: #201 solomonpanting

Yup... about 5-4 for Obama, but what stands out in my mind is the depth of ignorance exhibited by the people I ask... doesn't matter which way they vote, they're almost uniformly BLANK on any of the issues, Solomon!

re: #190 Adrenalyn

I can answer that
but don't want to get flamed

it's where........
aw forget it

Mormons are required go on missions. LDS- Latter Day Saints.

re: #207 StudSupreme

No.
Obama means what's going on in America TODAY is, in his filthy view, Nazi-like.

T H A T B A S T A R D .

Was it for today or way back when? Either way it's disgusting, but I didn't get a chance to look through the whole thread to see what you guys came up with.

re: #199 capitalist piglet

Don't know if dinging-up that people were attacked by Obama followers is appropriate, but it kind of draws attention to a post, so I did it.

In any case, this is a real case of an attack on campaign workers, no chance of it being a hoax- but I don't suppose this will be on the front page of CNN or MSNBC tomorrow.

re: #205 legalpad

Yeah, this is a crock. What about them wanting to run the Navy out, run recruiters out, and all that? How about the Rev. "God damn America"? How about Mrs. "This is the first time I have been proud of my country?" Look, these people know they hate America. It comes oozing out of them. And Obama knows it too. What they can't accept is that people like Sarah and Joe are also America. They know damn well that they hate them.

Yeah, I find this very disturbing, especially when you take their argument to the next logical step. If you want to destroy America, why are you still here? And what are you going to replace it with? It's kind of what a suicide would be thinking: this sucks, so let's kill it and see what happens next.

re: #176 slokat

they rarely show her "full figure" --she is a large woman --I swear she works out --lifts weights because her shoulders are wider than Baracks. Women with curvy bottoms who not Jennifer Lopez are not PC --hence the top only pics of Michelle. That seems to be slowlly changing --because of Jennifer Lopez --which, I think is a good thing.

Flag-pole figures are not the norm and NOT the only definition of beauty.

Remember when Lady Di and Prince Charles got married --they made great pains to make sure she was crunched down and he stood up straight? She was taller than he. I think it in some of the official pictures he had to stand on a book of some sort.

There is also some psycology about tall men and power. Most of our presidents have been over 6 foot. There is some advantage in the corporate world as well. Hence the handlers trying to get Barry as tall as possible. Lifts in his shoes?

Well I see our local moby has arrived. Makes me wonder why it even bother posts.

re: #192 rawmuse

BHO is not entirely black either. He had a comfortable, middle class, white upbringing, and attended the very finest private and exclusive schools.

His blackness is just like the rest of him, it is a facade, a carefully tended artifice orifice.

There, fixed that for ya!

re: #131 jaunte
OK - but here's a hint - remember what Malcom X looked like without his glasses on?! LOL!

Any one see the Drudge headline tonite? What is he trying to say? Has he gone over to the dark side?

re: #164 CommonCents

I think I'm about to 'step in it' but oh well....

I was watching some Christian programming this past Sunday morning and the pastor made an really, really good point.

How is it that a law gets passed that says if I step on a sea turtle egg (an unborn sea turtle) I get fined AND thrown in jail, but it is the law that I can choose to kill an unborn human?

Is sea turtle life more valuable than human life?

To some people: Yes.

We all know who they are...

re: #40 itellu3times

Your correspondent is full of crap.

Obama's words are entirely straightforward, he was not talking about an academic post-modernist legal theory.

I'd have to agree. It's hard to tell without the context and I can't get the audio, but as far as legal theory goes, the excerpt sure sounds to me like just another way of saying what Obama said in the last debate, i.e., that judges should rule on the basis of "fairness" and "justice" or "change going on outside of the Court that judges have to take judicial notice of" (i.e., popular opinion) as opposed to interpreting (not legislating) the law and the Constitution and following precedent. He's just plain wrong on this. He couldn't possibly be much more off base.

The analogies between what was going on in this country and Nazi Germany in the 40s appear to be just a gratuitous gloss on his philosophy of legal theory, probably thrown in to show what he perceives to be the dangers of not following his way. So it seems he hasn't changed much, after all.

re: #217 Karridine

Yup... about 5-4 for Obama, but what stands out in my mind is the depth of ignorance exhibited by the people I ask... doesn't matter which way they vote, they're almost uniformly BLANK on any of the issues, Solomon!

Not unlike many in the states.

re: #203 Gus 802

So you're checking out Safari. Great. Once you get used to that, try WebKit too!

An ungenerous thought I had today was as follows

For THIS, the Union troops died like flies at Manassas and Fredericksburg and Antietam, and Shiloh, and the Wilderness, and Cold Harbor, at Gettysburg, and the Battle of the Crater.

So that we could be called Nazis and racists by a worthless creeps like BHO and his followers.

I tell you, it tests my Christian bearing down to the very last nerve.
Yes, it does.

re: #177 gmsc

I loved that!

re: #207 StudSupreme

I don't get that at all from the short quote in the article. The context was America in the 50s.

Look, I'm not going to apologize for O or sit here and defend him. I just think y'all are overreacting to this quote.

re: #170 DistantThunder

Come on, don't they have newspapers in Pristina or Amserdam or some other point of entry?

Ohio's Head of Job and Family Services Approved a Child-Support Search on Joe Wurzelbacher Immediately After Third Debate;
Her Excuse? "Oh, We Always Do That"
Confirmed: Max Donor to Obama
—Ace

"Anyone Want to Dig Dirt on Helen Jones-Kelley? It's a service we provide here at AoSHQ to anyone who "steps into the public spotlight."

Heh

re: #218 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Mormons are required go on missions. LDS- Latter Day Saints.

No, it's voluntary, and very hard to qualify to get to go. No drinking, no smoking, and no fooling around - and that's just the beginning of the qualfications.

re: #162 Karridine

Most are 3-day running polls...

The deleterious effects of those MILLION-PLUS VIEWS of the Obama Wealth-Distribution Debacle won't become apparent in polls until approximately Thursday... and if they're negative results, will continue downward for the next three days even if something shiny and wunnerful comes public, Supreme!

Good point. Hopefully The One will not be able to recover.

re: #207 StudSupreme

No.
Obama means what's going on in America TODAY is, in his filthy view, Nazi-like.

T H A T B A S T A R D .

No, that's not at all what he means. In the transcript, he specifically refers to soldiers returning from WWII and finding they don't have the rights they were fighting for elsewhere. That's the context he was talking about.

re: #230 Macker

Thanks.

Looks like the LGF site was designed for Safari. When you click the profiles it looks more formal than with IE6 and 7. Have to watch the http:// prefix for the links.

re: #199 capitalist piglet

Mace sprayed on Republican office workers in Galax

Galax? Galax? That's right down the road from me.
Who the hell cares about politics in Galax?

I hope that turns out to be personal.
Listen, if you can get political violence in Galax, you've got one nasty election going.
Unbelievable.

re: #236 DistantThunder

No drinking, no smoking, and no fooling around - and that's just the beginning of the qualfications.

Aren't those things required of all Mormons, wherever they are, mission or no mission?

re: #223 BlueCanuck

Hi, Blue! I seem to keep missing you. Hope you're doing well! :)

re: #234 brainwizard73

Come on, don't they have newspapers in Pristina or Amserdam or some other point of entry?

Yes, but he doesn't want to know - I understand that.

re: #215 brainwizard73

The aliens will rescue terrorists from GITMO...

This reminds me of a comedy bit from a TV show a few years back:

A: "American has survived many great disasters and tragedies - the 9/11 attacks, the 1906 San Francisco Earthquake, Chicago . . ."

B: "You mean the Great Chicago Fire?"

A: "No. I mean Chicago. What's this about a fire?"

re: #196 Karridine

Mid-day in Bangkok... let's see what the Noon News reports for Thailand...

/Obama and McCain have been getting a LOT of coverage here... this is IMPORTANT to the world, and Thailand knows it!

As the USA turns, so turns the world. Our economy farts, the rest of the world excuse me.
AND THEY'RE JEALOUS AS SHIT BECAUSE OF IT! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's why the losers are pulling for The One™ to win. The asshole will attempt to even the playing field, at our expense.

re: #231 rawmuse

Every year when I go on vacation to a small town with my family, there's a handpainted board outside this one store there listing all the wars the US engaged in and all the casualties and deaths. When you see the figures of the Civil War next to WWI, WWII, and the Korean War it just shocking. Most people don't realize how many casualties and deaths there were during the Civil War.

re: #30 gmsc

Bacchus's daddy

Interesting name. Tell me, when Bacchus was a baby, did he wine a lot?

Let Bacchus' sons be not dismayed
But join with me, each jovial blade
Come, drink and sing and lend your aid
To help me with the chorus:

re: #171 JustMyView

But isn't that the point he makes in that example? That is, wasn't he saying that because the courts (and judges) of the time existed in a real world where support for desegregation was limited, they took a fairly narrow approach in deciding civil rights cases?

My take was just the opposite, that he was saying judges must be cognizant of outside events (ie practice realism) because of things like the uncomfortable similarity between Nazi doctrines and our own discriminatory practices.
It is as though he had heard realism discussed in the context of the Third Reich judiciary and had jumped to completely wrong conclusions about the connection.

re: #186 pat

Isn't there plenty of time for you to vote like, 62 more times? I know these people that can help you...

re: #206 DistantThunder

No. LDS missionary is a full time voluntary missionary for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints aka Mormons. Boys go at 19, girls at 21. It's 2 years for boys, 18 months for girls. It is self-financed for 2 years, and no computer, no TV, no radio. And no dating. They can listen to "uplifting" music. They can play basketball and other sports one day a week. They apply to the Church to be considered to go on a mission, and have to meet strict standards of preparation. After they submit all their paperwork, they receive a "mission call" to somewhere in the world. They do not know where they will be sent. It is very exciting to open a mission call letter.

Currently there are 53,000 missionaries serving.

Whilst in Bulgaria, we could use email on P-days. Rule may have changed now though.

BTW, I think Obama is drunk on his own Kool-Aid. I heard this excerpt from a speech he made in Ohio today and nearly fell off my chair.

"If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run away from. You make a big election about small things," Obama said to a raucous crowd at Canton's civic center. "Ohio, we are here to say, `Not this time. Not this year.'"

That he could make such a statement about McCain with a straight face shows that he really has slipped down the rabbit hole. Who's the candidate without a record in this election? It's just too nuts.