How can we make the right decision for our country if the media hides important information?

Quislings.

There, I've added my two cents. I'll publish any reply I get over at my blog.

No way, no how, no chance this will be released prior to Nov 4th.

L.A. Slimes

As a southern CA resident, I am frequently called and asked if I'd like to subscribe to the L.A. Times. I always tick off a list of things that bother me about the Times and end with, "even if you offered me the Times for free, I'd turn it down". I guess my list of reasons just got longer.

Ethical problem? Since when was the LA Times ethical? Or maybe that's the problem, it would be ethical to release the tape, so they won't?

re: #1 Ojoe

How can we make the right decision for our country if the media hides important information?

Quislings.

The media will tell you what the right decision is.

/

re: #6 Lee Coller

Maybe they mis spelled ethnical?

/

I have kept my subscription to the LA Times for many years longer than I should have only because I still like their sports page,but I let them know yesterday that I will be canceling my subscription over this sorry affair.

Clearly, this is a right wing smear against the LA Times, a bastion of truth and a glimmering light in the darkness.

/do I really have to?

The Tribune Company is publicly traded, no? Seems like they have a duty to their shareholders to increase revenue via releasing the tape (with ads).

re: #7 Ford_Prefect

The media will tell you what the right decision is.

/

And you will like it!

/

Someone contact Dagny Taggart...

...

nah, what could she do.

John McCain- Country First

LA Times- ideology first

If the LA Times sees the description of the video being sufficient for telling the whole story, then it is fair to ask if a description of the Rodney King beating would have sufficed instead of letting the public see the video and judge the event for themselves.

Forgetting the video for a second, has the Obama campaign commented on what Obama's relationship and attitude is towards Khalidi?

I am truly worried for the US if Obama is elected. If he is and things go to hell in a hand basket, the media will probably be surprised to find citizens with pitchforks and torches at their front door.

All conservatives, and all fair-minded persons of any political stripe, should call whatever Obama propaganda organ (i.e., newspaper or magazine) they subscribe to, and cancel their subscriptions on November 5th. They should also call whatever broadcast or cable news outlets they watch/listen to and tell them they will no longer be watching/listening to them, again on November 5th. Finally, they should call the advertisers on the above media outlets and explain to them why their ad dollars are being wasted.

This should be done regardless of who wins on November 4th.

The LAT continues losing readers, and continues to make cuts in the newsroom, which further erodes their ability to gather news. At some point, they're going to have to decide whether this venture continues or folds.

I could care less either way.

They've clearly shown themselves to be nothing but yellow journalists who refuse to do their job and report the news. They've decided that this particular video isn't newsworthy. If it isn't, why not release it to show that to be the case. Why withhold it from public view unless there is something there, because the act of spiking the video suggests that there is something to the video that would be bad news for the Obama campaign.

The LAT would be smart to release the video, if only to undermine the claims that there's something to hide.

It's not the crime, but the coverup, and the LAT has yet to learn that old lesson.

The LAT is covering up that video for the Obama campaign. There can be no other excuse, despite what they claim.

re: #16 DeafDog

Forgetting the video for a second, has the Obama campaign commented on what Obama's relationship and attitude is towards Khalidi?

Yeah, its not the Khalidi he knew.

re: #1 Ojoe

How can we make the right decision for our country if the media hides important information?

Quislings.

Quislings is far too nice. Henchmen. These people want to do us in.

Also from the LA Times:

Hanging Sarah Palin in effigy is NOT a "hate" crime.

Fan-f'n-tastic.

For those people to whom this video would make a difference - the knowledge of the existence of the tape and it's contents should be sufficiently impressive and should be a game changer.

Obama has already been a disasterously poor example of a candidate: repeatedly lying, throwing people under the bus, unethically withdrawing from public financing, making threats against the media, trashing the Constitution and advocating socialism, insulting religious Americans, and the list goes on.

A video tape of even more egregious behavior is another bucket in an ocean of evidence that his man-child, with NO military experience, will be disasterous.

"“We’re not a video service,” Doyle McManus,"

Perhaps Mr. McManus should familiarize himself with the website of the LA Times.

La Times Video Service

Dear LA Times , If this video really exists you have a responsibility to at least POST it to support your story as you do EVERY other video related to a story. Not a video service ?
Spit.

I think the LA Fishwrap is editing that tape as I type, taking out the juicy Jew-hating bits to make Obama sound Presidential. They'll probably even leave in Obama's -er's and -uhm's to make him appear human. Who knew McLuhan's 'the media is the message' would end up with a whole 'nother meaning?

re: #16 DeafDog

I'm thinking mr. khalidid should be on the lookout for any and all buses.

"ETHICAL problems"? Damn right there's a major ethical problem. It has to do with purposefully withholding relevant information that could reflect on the true character of Obama and his associations, validate issues relating to his extreme socialistic ideology and who knows, maybe even international security issues concerning Israel and Palestine and most importantly the USA. Media Malfeasance is an ETHICAL issue!
This is all about SAVING the story to get the most bang for the LA Times buck
(literally fame and finances). They are going under. If they release it now, the story will get them 8 days play, But, if they hold off, This tape will get them months of play with fame and fortune.

re: #16 DeafDog

Forgetting the video for a second, has the Obama campaign commented on what Obama's relationship and attitude is towards Khalidi?

Loves him ......

re: #15 karmic_inquisitor

If the LA Times sees the description of the video being sufficient for telling the whole story, then it is fair to ask if a description of the Rodney King beating would have sufficed instead of letting the public see the video and judge the event for themselves.

That is an excellent point.

Ok lizards,
I have written an email to a DJ on a local radio station. Read it and give me some pointers.

Dear Mike,

I am a small business owner who chose to play 97.9 kiss FM in my store. As of today, I will no longer be playing your station in my business. Your comments regarding the interview of Sarah Palin given by MJ this morning were unfounded. You sir are not qualified to make an assumption as to the intelligence of governor Palin given your occupation and the limited time Ms. Palin had to speak (8 minutes). You may have opinions, however, voicing them over the airwaves is bad for business. The best in your business remain neutral in public as to their political leanings.

Why don't you bring up Joe Biden and his not-so-smart comments, blatant untruths or his inability to answer questions? Why don't we speak about Barack Obama's associations with domestic terrorists or his Marxist views? Do you even know what that could mean for this country?

You stated Palin "sounded kinda dumb". It is a mistake to assume someone lacks intelligence because of the way they speak, just like it would be wrong to assume someone is stupid because they are fat or ugly. I would suggest to you that you keep your misguided opinions to yourself while you are on the air.

Bella

re: #18 methuseleh

All conservatives, and all fair-minded persons of any political stripe, should call whatever Obama propaganda organ (i.e., newspaper or magazine) they subscribe to, and cancel their subscriptions on November 5th. They should also call whatever broadcast or cable news outlets they watch/listen to and tell them they will no longer be watching/listening to them, again on November 5th. Finally, they should call the advertisers on the above media outlets and explain to them why their ad dollars are being wasted.

This should be done regardless of who wins on November 4th.

WHy wait for November 5th? Do it now.

They are probably afraid to be left out of the bailout if the messiah wins..

This story has been all over talk radio this morning. Not that that will force the LA Slimes hand, but...it's still good that it's being told.

This is kind of funny.

I went to the Tribune's web site and clicked on the "code of ethics" link. Guess what came back? NOT FOUND

Here, try it yourself-

[Link: corporate.tribune.com...]

re: #30 bellamags

Would change this:

It is a mistake to assume someone lacks intelligence because of the way they speak, just like it would be wrong to assume someone is stupid because they are fat or ugly.

To:

It is a mistake to assume someone lacks intelligence because of the way they speak, just like it would be wrong to assume someone is stupid because they are a music playing personality on a local radio station.

Bring it back to him.

Hey LA Times! the Obama camp just said that you guys don't have the balls to release the video.

The cover up is always worse than the crime. Now that we're starting to get some traction in the slime, maybe this will go somewhere.

re: #30 bellamags

cc: All of their advertisers

Politico writer notices that the media is overwhelmingly biased against John McCain, then says, "So what?"

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #16 DeafDog

Forgetting the video for a second, has the Obama campaign commented on what Obama's relationship and attitude is towards Khalidi?

Here:

Same BS he says about Ayers, he did not want to answer that either.

common sense says that the video contains powerful information regarding 0-Bomber and this relationship with the splodeydope spokesman. IIRC, Ayers was there as well?

Times told him there’s an “ethical problem” with releasing the tape.

The Times has an ethical problem?
ROFLMAO

The LA Times will release the tape one week from tomorrow...

If LAT will not release the video and since it is a print media, how about releasing a printed transcript of the video?

I shall not vote for a man who parties with PLO thug Rashid Khalidi.

I shall not vote for a man that belittles the gravity of the holocaust.

I shall not read any "newspaper" that suppresses that information.

I shall not vote for a man who has his lawyer intimidate college reporters.

I shall not vote for a man tells his partisan thugs to “get in their face.”

I shall not vote for a man whose supporter “mace” elderly women and others.

I shall not vote for a man who consorts with terrorist Bill Ayers.

I shall not vote for a man who will gut the military.

I shall not vote for a man who is outwardly dishonest and hides his past.

I shall not vote for Barack Hussein Obama.

OT...sorry

I've already had one employee ask about this...my response was take advantage of early voting or stand in line on election day, But what ever you do...vote.

Obama Urges Voters to Take Day Off From Work to Help Campaign on Election Day

The "Take the Day" campaign suggests voters sign up to go to battleground states or work in phone banks closer to home on Nov. 4, when they would normally be at work or in class.

"We can't win this election unless every Obama supporter gets out and votes on November 4th. To do that, we need a massive team of volunteers helping us. Can you take next Tuesday off from work, join the final push, and make sure that everyone who supports Barack turns out to vote?" asks the Web page hosting the ad.

On the trail, Obama has been encouraging voters to go to the polls for early voting, and reports from several states are that Democrats are going into the voting booths in larger numbers than Republicans.

John McCain's campaign, though, scolded Obama for encouraging voters to skip work on his behalf.

Next thing Obama will want is for everyone to send him a Birthday present and tax the employers to pay for the gift...oh and it will be a national holiday.

...the Times told him there’s an “ethical problem” with releasing the tape. Right.

In the age of Obama, anything which does not help "The One" shall be deemed un-ethical.

re: #47 snuffyword

If LAT will not release the video and since it is a print media, how about releasing a printed transcript of the video?

Edit by John Stennis or by John Murtha?

The media is just starting to feel the huge backlash that is building against them. yesterday we canceled our cable - of course the company got it wrong and canceled our internet and kept the cable - but we got that straightened out.

Sarkozy Views Obama's Stance on Iran 'Utterly Immature,' Media Mum

Sarkozy views the Democratic candidate's stance on Iran as "utterly immature" and comprised of "formulations empty of all content."

formulations empty of all content

And THAT from a Frenchman, no less.

I would think that the press, of all people, would know that it's the cover up that always causes the sensation. The longer this goes on, the more buzz it will create. Dumbasses- they dig their own grave every day they hold this tape.

The LA Times publishes hundreds and hundreds of videos online.
There is NO reason not to show this one.

Editing this one must be taking some real work.
LA Times Video Service

LA Times trashy "ethics":

Candidate A: Dispatch teams to sort through her trash.

Candidate B: Dispose of his trash.

re: #55 Sharmuta

I would think that the press, of all people, would know that it's the cover up that always causes the sensation. The longer this goes on, the more buzz it will create. Dumbasses- they dig their own grave every day they hold this tape.

I am just concerned it is only a buzz amongst us, other conservative bloggers, and FOX news viewers?

Bend over America and be prepared to take a major NEO-COM* f%$cking up the arse.

*The NEW Communism, Obama style.

re: #54 Ben Hur

Sarkozy Views Obama's Stance on Iran 'Utterly Immature,' Media Mum

formulations empty of all content

And THAT from a Frenchman, no less.

Sarkozy often has his head on straight. At the very least, he knows a deadly enemy when he sees one. Which is an ability BHO has yet to master.

Get a load of this Politico article! My jaw is on the floor.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

But, having asked it, our sincere answer is that of the factors driving coverage of this election — and making it less enjoyable for McCain to read his daily clip file than for Obama — ideological favoritism ranks virtually nil.

The main reason is that for most journalists, professional obligations trump personal preferences. Most political reporters (investigative journalists tend to have a different psychological makeup) are temperamentally inclined to see multiple sides of a story, and being detached from their own opinions comes relatively easy.

So what we're seeing is that O is truly a uniter. He's bringing together foreign, America hating, bomb tossing, terrorists (Khalidi) and domestic, America hating, bomb tossing, terrorists (AyersDorn) and showing them that they have more in common than they thought. Imagine what a world we could live in if we just put aside our differences and become one with the ONE.

/sarc

re: #15 karmic_inquisitor

If the LA Times sees the description of the video being sufficient for telling the whole story, then it is fair to ask if a description of the Rodney King beating would have sufficed instead of letting the public see the video and judge the event for themselves.

And it would have been even fairer if the media shown the entire Rodney King video instead of just the last few minutes. Of course, the film shown in its entirety puts a whole new perspective on the incident. More manipulation of the public by the media.

It's a lot like Watergate, except the media are the plumbers to Obama's Nixon.

re: #42 Charles

Politico writer notices that the media is overwhelmingly biased against John McCain, then says, "So what?"

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

They like to think of themselves as intellectually superior to us plebes, yet the best argument they can muster is "so what"?

Reminds me of the DI.

Are we really going to elect a scummy lawyer, who has had a hand in this massive collapse of the market - as our president?

re: #62 Charles

Get a load of this Politico article! My jaw is on the floor.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I think the only thing they are detached from is reality!

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

Sarkozy often has his head on straight. At the very least, he knows a deadly enemy when he sees one. Which is an ability BHO has yet to master.

Sarkozy "The American"

Obama The Commie

What an inverted world. Here I am looking up to the French.

re: #62 Charles

They are in serious Costanza mode. It's not a lie if they believe it.

The Los Angeles Times is currently hemorrhaging readers, laying off employees, and losing advertisers. Releasing this video would be very good for their bottom line; a lot of people are interested in it. Does this mean they’re more invested in seeing Barack Obama win the election than in being profitable?

Come now, comrade. Who needs paying customers when you can earn government subsidies under the fairness doctrine?

Daryll Hannah's uncle?

The Second Bill of Rights

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

How come this reminds me of all those family parties I get invited to and then get stuck with the BILL?

re: #42 Charles

That then is the reason that this resonates so well. Of course, the medium of journalism is dying every time these clowns go out of their way to attack one candidate and protect another. And every time, it's invariably the Democrat who gets protected while the Republican is thrown over the coals.

re: #62 Charles

Get a load of this Politico article! My jaw is on the floor.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I guess the marketplace will be the ultimate arbiter of that. The big looming nightmare is that this far leftist government will create a state run media arm like the BBC.

I realize that I am pushing this a third tome, but this is just FUNNY.
Mr. Doyle McManus maintains that the LA Times is not a video Service, YET here he is appearing in just such a service.
A produced LA Times Video Service video FEATURING Mr. Doyle McManus.

re: #62 Charles

Media, tank. Tank, media.

Why cover up a profitable story?

Perhaps the current theory afoot, that the mainstream media think they have far more to gain from an Obama victory than from reporting stories that will draw readers, is in play.

Their cheerleading will be subsidized and legally protected by an Obama government. Can't make a profit in a free market, so they want to go on the dole in return for carrying water for The One.

Wow, the site is really mixed up here. poor little hamsters

Gee, I wonder what could possibly be unethical on this tape. Nothing to do with radical Palestinians, the Obama's, and their friend Billy Ayers bashing Israel and Jews I'm sure. Right?

re: #76 DistantThunder

I guess the marketplace will be the ultimate arbiter of that. The big looming nightmare is that this far leftist government will create a state run media arm like the BBC.

They don't need one. They've already got the MSM.

re: #62 Charles

So we are supposed to trust in the sterling character and noble personality of the political reporter? Spare me.

Logged-in at last!

Gah! I've been looking at the twirly thing for so long that both optic nerves are twisted clock-wise.

I've tried twice now to email Sam Zell at the address listed on Newsbusters - once from my Yahoo addy, and once from my permanent address.

Both were rejected.

Not to be confused with the Weissen Angel

zell? Zell? ZELL? Der Weissen Angel!

Seriously though, THANK YOU for keeping this out there.

re: #58 Nevergiveup

I am just concerned it is only a buzz amongst us, other conservative bloggers, and FOX news viewers?

Well- if you go to the yahoo elections 08 page, not only will you find a link to LGF, but in the upper right you'll see that a new term has popped up for popular searches- "warren court". As in the radio interview audio.

I think words getting out.

re: #45 AK oilfield worker

Times told him there’s an “ethical problem” with releasing the tape.

The Times has an ethical problem?

Sure the Times has an ethical problem with the possible release. It would be an ethical thing to do. Problem!

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Keller told employees they will have to live on the lean side
The same goes for him, Keller noted. "I was flying back from California the week before last and by chance I was seated next to someone from the advertising department of the Times. (In economy class, for the record)," he said.

Oh the inhumanity of it all!

Releasing this video would be very good for their bottom line; a lot of people are interested in it. Does this mean they’re more invested in seeing Barack Obama win the election than in being profitable? Shouldn’t the remaining shareholders in the company be concerned about this attitude?

I think it is very clear in both the print and broadcast media that the employees in fact couldn't care less if the enterprise makes a profit. Their leftist calling is far more important than that of the capitalists pigs that own the media. They are confident that if their employers go under, another one waits in the wings and they can start over again.

Ethical and the L.A. Times....why do I think this is a total oxymoron.

"In 2008, Tribune is struggling under a $13 billion debt load, much of it incurred in taking the company private in 2007."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I did not realize that they had become a private company.

Waiting for a whistle-blower.

This must be like being in an abusive marriage. One party insists that they have NO idea why the other party is upset because they see nothing wrong with their own behavior.

Yet the other party has the bruises and blackened eyes as proof.

re: #67 DistantThunder

Are we really going to elect a scummy lawyer, who has had a hand in this massive collapse of the market - as our president?

Nope!

re: #48 Ledger1

"I shall not vote for a man whose supporters “mace” elderly women and others."

Obama Supporters Enter GOP Campaign Office & Mace Employees Including Elderly Women

re: #90 Nevergiveup

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Keller told employees they will have to live on the lean side
The same goes for him, Keller noted. "I was flying back from California the week before last and by chance I was seated next to someone from the advertising department of the Times. (In economy class, for the record)," he said.

Oh the inhumanity of it all!

Proof that they are elitist snobs of the very worst sort.

omg! I made in into LGF! Of course, I won't be here for long --took too much time to get here LOL!

Charles must have gotten those hamster some of that comcast liquid silver for their running shoes.

How are you-all this morning and what are we talking about?

Rashid Khalidi is lying slime. I once saw him a few years ago debate the Jerusalem Post's editor David Makowsky at Chicago's posh University Club, and Khalidi made an offhand remark saying that the current issues between Israel and Palestian's (then Arafat) will be replaced or overshadowed by Pali demands for a "contiguous" state. No one, not even Makowsky, questioned him on it.

After the talk I approached Khalidi and asked him what he meant specifically by "contiguous state" and he denied saying it, and then said, well, uh, if I did say it, that's not what I meant.

Sounds like an Obama-nite to me.

Anyway, The LA Slimes is owned by the Chicago Tribune. And most of their emails are first initial, last name@tribune.com, i.e. SZell@tribune.com
Though, with Zell, I wouldn't be surprised if he had something like Sam@tribune.com

I'm going to try that. But don't be surprised if it doesn't go through. Whatever Zell's politics (?) the gatekeepers at the Pravda, er, Chicago Tribune are sure to be Che-bambi's footsoldiers and happy to withhold the truth if it helps their cause.

Checkout the timeliness of the lead story at another Tribune property,
the Sun Sentinel.

Speaking of stuff the MSM will not expose, here is another Obamanation from the Obamanator.

-credit Power Line

Charles:
Kudos on the heavy traffic. Means the word is getting out. For the 6000 online and 180k+ pages viewed, how many discrete viewers yesterday?

re: #62 Charles

Most political reporters (investigative journalists tend to have a different psychological makeup) are temperamentally inclined to see multiple sides of a story, and being detached from their own opinions comes relatively easy

Political reporters are different from us commonfolk. They're 'specially trained to see things in ways that regular people can only imagine...That's why they know better than us what we need to see.

I feel much better knowing that really smart people are deciding what information should be withheld from me and my fellow bumkins.

For a moment there I actually thought that the LA Times was just biased in favor of Barack Obama....Silly me.

Sam Zell needs to have his wealth redistributed in the worst way.

/greedy pos

OMFG

Now Online: 6,534
Logged in: 345

re: #13 Dayenu

Someone contact Dagny Taggart...

...

nah, what could she do.

Ragnar could do some cool stuff.

re: #105 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Sam Zell needs to have his wealth redistributed in the worst way.

/greedy pos

Those that live within the Kremlin's walls will of course retained their wealth!

re: #67 DistantThunder

Nope.

re: #62 Charles

I told my wife I'd trust a lawyer over a journalist. All she could say was "ouch."

You've posted many examples of people upset and tired of the malfeasance, the utter bias of so-called journalists. There is no such thing as the un-biased journalist anymore.

The LA Times knows that it will get its place in the Ministry of Information once the Obamessiah is coronated.

What fun group!

"TRIBUNE is America’s largest employee-owned media company, operating businesses in publishing, interactive and broadcasting. In publishing, Tribune’s leading daily newspapers include the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, The Baltimore Sun, Sun Sentinel, Orlando Sentinel, Hartford Courant, Morning Call and Daily Press. The company’s broadcasting group operates 23 television stations, WGN America on national cable, Chicago’s WGN-AM and the Chicago Cubs baseball team. Popular news and information websites complement Tribune’s print and broadcast properties and extend the company’s nationwide audience. At Tribune we take what we do seriously and with a great deal of pride. We also value the creative spirit and are nurturing a corporate culture that doesn’t take itself too seriously."

(bottom of page) [Link: www.tribune.com...]

Sorry in advance if this ends up a double post.

re: #81 vagabond trader

Wow, the site is really mixed up here. poor little hamsters

Gee, I wonder what could possibly be unethical on this tape. Nothing to do with radical Palestinians, the Obama's, and their friend Billy Ayers bashing Israel and Jews I'm sure. Right?

Maybe not even so much what Obama said, but what was said as he sat there (like he did in the Trinity Church pew).

At Khalidi's 2003 farewell party, for example, a young Palestinian American recited a poem accusing the Israeli government of terrorism in its treatment of Palestinians and sharply criticizing U.S. support of Israel. If Palestinians cannot secure their own land, she said, "then you will never see a day of peace."

One speaker likened "Zionist settlers on the West Bank" to Osama bin Laden, saying both had been "blinded by ideology."

/snip from the Andrew McCarthy piece

Rush has today related how BHO has gone from a baseline of $250k to now $200k, and Rush played a brief clip of Biden using $150k as their baseline.
Can someone put together a set of links to these separate clips, for comparision? Video probably preferable.

This seems like something that should be hammered for the remainder of the days left to us.

re: #106 Fat Jolly Penguin

OMFG

What's our record for people online, anyone know?

Wow, the hamsters are hurting this morning.

Dear Mr. Zell,
I applaud your decision to withhold the Obama video tape which purportedly shows him at a dinner with known terrorist mouthpiece Rashid Khalidi. In a time where personal ideology is waning, I’m sure the 75 employees you are laying off are more than happy to receive pink slips so that you may continue to thwart the efforts of others asking you for total transparency. Braver still, is that you thumb your nose at your advertisers knowing that by simply releasing this tape you could easily increase your readership by 20% overnight.

This sort of leadership needs to be recognized, and I for one am also sending this along to your advertisers so we can all stand by you in this time of unity against those who would not recognize your courageous stance.

Sincerely,
Xxxx

Let's see:

Gov takeover of banks... check

Media bragging about it's one sided coverage... check.

Dem candidate states he wants to "spread the wealth around." ...check

Dem veep candidate states taxes are patriotic...check

Dem economic expert testifies before congress that private citizen 401 ks should be abolished... check

Yep, we have a very smelly pile of socialism looming above us.

re: #42 Charles

Politico writer notices that the media is overwhelmingly biased against John McCain, then says, "So what?"

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

A lot of the media outlets have been doing this sanctimonious navel-gazing at different times during this campaign season. They point out the bias, and then go on enhancing and refining the bias as if just raising the question will make us think it is over. We are being force-fed opinions by partisan journalists instead of facts by reporters.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Lizards, I think the ZerØ now has usurped Mother Nature herself, for I am viewing a very heavy fog here in Pugetopolis (Seattle/Tacoma). He's obsuring the beauty of fall, much like he and his goon squad is obscuring/obliterating the truth...

abc will not air the obama 1/2 hour ad

re: #113 redstateredneck

That was a snip of a snip. Original quote was from the article in question in the LA Times written by Peter Wellsten.

I am disgusted with people to whom the facts are irrelevent. Will Jewish Obama voters see this tape and change their minds, or will they dig in deeper to their postions, and become even more defensive?

Those are the people who deserve the looming economic catastrophe that will swamp all of our boats: 21% interest rates, double digit unemployment, political devastation via Iran.

America - YOU have been WARNED!

re: #114 The Archivist

Hell, why not cut to the chase? Any American who holds a job is going to be taxed to death while these swine protect their own wealth and that of their "important" supporters.

re: #121 phoenixgirl

abc will not air the obama 1/2 hour ad

Everybody ought to watch "Pushing Daisies" that night!

re: #36 Sharmuta

Damn it. That was great. I already sent it. I put fat and ugly because he is.

OT:

Check out this story from the country where BHO lived as a boy:

Muslim Cleric Faces Possible Criminal Charges for Marrying 12-Year-Old Contest Winner

Read the story. This "holy man" truly walked it Mohamed's footsteps.

re: #111 Jinx

I told my wife I'd trust a lawyer over a journalist. All she could say was "ouch." -jinx

Journalists work hand-in-with lawyers. They tend to come from the same school. When ever a lawyer gets in jam he calls a journalist to try the case in the “public opinion” court.

Sam Zell took the concept to a higher level. He bought the journalists.

Self interest above country? Just rumors here, but fits the known events well.

Tokyo Peg?

[O]ne of my sources, who is very well connected, tells me that Noonan was at first rumored to be looking to write a regular column for the New York Times. [...] But the rumor has escalated beyond the Times and gone straight to the White House: my same source says now the word is that Noonan may be being courted for the job of press secretary for an Obama administration.

Republican elitists can be as repusively snooty as Democrat ones...

The thing these elitist insiders always miss is this: America is a grand experiment in self-government, and the elite/prole vision of humanity is fundamentally at war with the entire purpose of this country.

re: #114 The Archivist

Rush has today related how BHO has gone from a baseline of $250k to now $200k, and Rush played a brief clip of Biden using $150k as their baseline.
Can someone put together a set of links to these separate clips, for comparision? Video probably preferable.

This seems like something that should be hammered for the remainder of the days left to us.

I noticed in the clips Rush played:

The first indicated that no one making less than $250,000 will have their taxes go up.

The second indicated that people making less than $200,000 would get a tax cut.

That leaves those making $200,000 - 249,000 unaffected.

I may be overparsing these and I can't explain what Biden was talking about.

if there is going to be wealth distribution, how much am i going to get?

Deep thoughts this cold and windy 'morn in Penna:

- Go Phillies
- Is GWB holding back DOJ investigations on Obama, Rezko, Acorn, etc because he made a "deal with the devil" in exchange for no Obama/Pelosi/Reid pursual of "war crimes" hearings?
-If the weather is this "yucky" in Penna on Nov 4 as it is today, McCain could pull out a victory here for sure. No way in hell college students and Philly blacks going to come out in full force to vote in this kind of weather.

re: #123 DistantThunder

... 21% interest rates, double digit unemployment, political devastation via Iran.

America - YOU have been WARNED!

21%! Is that all? Shoot! I was worried there for a bit.

/////

re: #114 The Archivist

Here's what's happening. The Obama people know that to get the tax and spend programs underway, they've got to hit more people who pay taxes, which means that they can't just keep it to people making over $250,000 or $200,000. It is extremely curious that after trying to hammer home the $250k level, that they're abandoning it in favor of much lower levels, which means many in the very bastions of blue land (NYC, LA, SF), will get hit by these very tax increases they claim to support in theory. Imagine the wailing as these folks see their take home pay disappear under the fog of tax hikes.

The threshold level keeps dropping, because the programs Obama seeks to fund will create a big sucking sound out of everyone's pockets.

Biden's wife doesn't know what he is talking about. No one does ,including Biden himself.

re: #132 phoenixgirl

if there is going to be wealth distribution, how much am i going to get?

It's not how much your gonna get, but were your gonna get it?

re: #125 redstateredneck

Everybody ought to watch "Pushing Daisies" that night!

I'll use one of my Tivo's tuners for it though I'll mainly be watching Hannity & Colmes Skeletor.

re: #133 SagamoreGal

I doubt that is the case. I think it's that GWB doesn't want to reduce McCain's chances by pursuing DoJ actions against Democrats as it would be construed as partisan investigations by the media, even though it is Democrats who are repeatedly breaking the law with their election fraud. He doesn't want to insert himself directly into the race in such a fashion.

Obama Affinity to Marxists Dates Back to College Days

Barack Obama shrugs off charges of socialism, but noted in his own memoir that he carefully chose Marxist professors as friends in college.

Wow.

I do believe that's the first time I've seen a reporter reference ONE of HIS memoirs!

It's hard to believe (or WAS hard to believe at one point) that he hasn't had ONE interview in which the reporter is sitting there with His books questioning The One about any or all passages written....

re: #136 lawhawk

Here's what's happening. The Obama people know that to get the tax and spend programs underway, they've got to hit more people who pay taxes, which means that they can't just keep it to people making over $250,000 or $200,000. It is extremely curious that after trying to hammer home the $250k level, that they're abandoning it in favor of much lower levels, which means many in the very bastions of blue land (NYC, LA, SF), will get hit by these very tax increases they claim to support in theory. Imagine the wailing as these folks see their take home pay disappear under the fog of tax hikes.

The threshold level keeps dropping, because the programs Obama seeks to fund will create a big sucking sound out of everyone's pockets.

Exactly! The income tax originally hit only the weathly (& that for about 6%). Then FDR needed cash & started taxing everybody. The big lie sold to the american public was "richer people pay more".

UK honour killing over booze.....
Somali youth was killed 'in row over alcohol and Islam'

A gang of five men beat a Somali teenager to death because of a row over Muslims drinking alcohol, a court heard today.

Ahmed Mohammed Ibrahim, 17, was repeatedly hit across the head with a samurai sword, baseball bat, machete and metal pole after being chased in Sefton Park, Liverpool, in March this year.

The teenager became embroiled in the fight after accompanying his cousin, Ahmed Mahamoud Ahmed, 16, to a "straightener" – a one-on-one fight – with the alleged killer Ali Mohammed, 19.

Liverpool crown court heard how Mohammed is believed to have accused Ahmed of breaking Muslim rules by drinking alcohol and held him down while a friend hit his head with a bat.

Obama Redefines Christianity and
Socialism As Election Nears -
Bill Wilson

A recent poll of voters indicated that Christians were about evenly split between supporting Republican John McCain or Democrat Barack Hussein Obama for President. It seems that McCain has convinced most Christians that he is a Christian, but not necessarily a strong enough Christian. Obama has convinced many that he is a Christian, however, his commitment to his faith by his actions is sorely lacking. Hence, its about 50/50 among Christians, who essentially determined the last two presidencies by their strong vote en masse for George W. Bush.

McCain tried to solidify the conservative Christian base by choosing Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate. While this solidified some of the most conservative Christians, it appears McCain still has not closed the deal. Meanwhile, there are many Christians who are voting for change no matter what. Obama represents that change. But Christians are warned in Philippians 2:12-13 to “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure.” If Christians are to do of God’s good pleasure, then they had better be forewarned of the ramifications of voting for Obama.

Here is the rest: [Link: www.watch.org...]

One of my favorite Audrey Hepburn movies is Roman Holiday- sheltered Princess escapes her embassy to wander the streets of Rome, where an American reporter finds her. He calls his photographer friend and they take the princess out on the town, all the while getting an exclusive story with pictures to go with it while not revealing to her that they are the press.

But alas- the newsman and princess fall in love, and she realizes she must go back and fulfill her duty to her country, and they have a romantic and tearful farewell.

The next day, at the embassy, there is a press conference, where the princess and newsman come face to face, and the photographer gives her the pictures he took of her. They've decided not to run the story, because the newsman has some integrity and cannot hurt the lady he came to love.

This movie could not be made today. If it was, the newsman would betray the princess because today's newsmen have no integrity.

re: #3 Russkilitlover

The LA Times will release the clip only after Election Day. Surprise. Just like with Oprah, Palin will be a welcome guest... after Election Day.

re: #140 lawhawk

I doubt that is the case. I think it's that GWB doesn't want to reduce McCain's chances by pursuing DoJ actions against Democrats as it would be construed as partisan investigations by the media, even though it is Democrats who are repeatedly breaking the law with their election fraud. He doesn't want to insert himself directly into the race in such a fashion.

Right now there really is not much more bias the media could shovel out onto the public and not make it painfully obvious they are hip deep in the crap.

re: #132 phoenixgirl

if there is going to be wealth distribution, how much am i going to get?

Minus 22% and your 401k will be reduced to 0.401k.

George Soros want's his money back with interest.

Gonna play the Caveman in a Geico Commercial...

I get it. I quit! But I get it.

Whirling ball makes me go do chores.

Poop.

See y'all later!

If the LA Times had video footage of Abu Ghraib, do you think they would:

A) Describe it in a story, and make sure the tape was never seen.
B) Describe it in a story, print screenshots, and make sure the tape was never seen.
C) Describe it in many stories over a series of months, with screenshots, and make absolutely damn sure the tape got on TV.

Hm. Hard to say, really.

re: #143 Killgore Trout

UK honour killing over booze.....
Somali youth was killed 'in row over alcohol and Islam'

That's not an approved AA method is it?

FDR & the New Deal extended the miseries of the depression 10 years making it truely the Great Depression.

I should live long enough to see the end of the Obama Depression.

re: #125 redstateredneck

Everybody ought to watch "Pushing Daisies" that night!

I know I will be. But there are going to have to be a few Lizards that are going to have to take one for the team and watch his 1/2 hours of lies so we can let the rest of country know what, exactly, his is lying about. I would offer but I swear, it is all I can do to get through a 30 second youtube clip of him without vomiting.

re: #16 DeafDog

Forgetting the video for a second, has the Obama campaign commented on what Obama's relationship and attitude is towards Khalidi?

Not the Khalidi I knew. Tired, I know.

re: #33 redstateredneck

IT's the NEXT best thing to having them release the vid! That's whu it is so important to take constructive and assertive ACTION at this time.

People are starting to inquire and hammer the question...Why? Is there something the LA Times does not want us to know about Obama?
The Obama campaign strategy and tactics have been based on nondisclosure, omission, deletion, or misrepresentation of any relevant personal information that we require access to. His thesis, transcripts, med records etc.
Anything to keep the hologram man from being seen at his own malignant words and behaviors. It's like watching a magic show of tricks. Only what you see. Even though there's definitely something occurring under the cape. Now that's the secret the LATimes does not want to release, until their price of the shows entertainment value is in their best interest!

re: #152 Nevergiveup

That's not an approved AA method is it?

If by 'AA' you mean "Allahu Akbar", then yes.

re: #131 eschew_obfuscation

I may be overparsing these and I can't explain what Biden was talking about.

Don't feel too badly about that. If you were so fortunate to be able to get Biden one-on-one in a discussion, that would make two people unable to explain what Biden talks about.

Biden is like one of those 'mystery voices' you sometimes hear while spelunking. Usually it is just wind blowing through a hole in the rock.

I also sent a fax to zell at faxzero.com

re: #155 midwestgak

Not the Khalidi I knew. Tired, I know.

#20
Shoulda read a little further :)

re: #154 PAgirlinNC

I know I will be. But there are going to have to be a few Lizards that are going to have to take one for the team and watch his 1/2 hours of lies so we can let the rest of country know what, exactly, his is lying about. I would offer but I swear, it is all I can do to get through a 30 second youtube clip of him without vomiting.

Ditto. If I tried to watch that I got stark raving mad.

re: #13 Dayenu

Someone contact Dagny Taggart...

...

nah, what could she do.

We haven't been able to find her yet.

Whoever comes up with a cure for ODS will make a killing.

re: #95 DistantThunder

Great Analogy! Ding up!

re: #145 Sharmuta

Like Mr. Deeds

re: #145 Sharmuta

Wish me luck Sharm. I'm off to San Fran and another possible conversion. Very bright young man - IT pro who just sat for the CA Bar.

Wealthy, elite socialists who use their money to affect the outcome of elections can go piss up a rope. America has your number, Sam Zell.

Most Jewish Lizards probably already know about this organization. Those who don't should.

Dear Charles,

Please make Mary Mapes eat these words:

Ha, ha.

Nothing makes me happier than seeing once swaggering players like Powerline, Free Republic and Little Green Footballs forced onto the sidelines, left to limply watch this campaign pass by like a parade in which they play no meaningful part.

They just don’t matter anymore.

Many thanks,
Peter Griffin

re: #166 Bobibutu

Good luck!

I was supposed to stay with lib friends in New England last night, and was watching TV with the husband when McCain came on the news. I had studiously been avoiding politics on this visit. Suddenly, the husband starting ranting about about McCain and Bush. I made a couple of comments about Obama's questionable fund raising, and he look at me and just starting screaming, " ing Jews" with a deranged look on his face, and just walked out of the room and up to his office. I grabbed my bag, apologized to his wife, a very old and dear friend who then forced me to explain the situation, and I left, having to find a hotel on my way home.

What the hell is going on?

I think the ultimate solution for the media problem is for conservatives to gain control of more media outlets. Since so many of the big names are failing, I expect them to be available at bargain-basement prices in the next two years. Fox News does a good job, but imagine if a few conservative bazillionaires, or a very large number of small conservative shareholders, got a hold of the Tribune Corp. or the New York Times. The senior editors could all be replaced with competent, unbiased individuals, and the investigative reporters would go after these kinds of stories knowing they'll see daylight.

I have no money and I am not a businessperson, so I'll just throw this out there for anyone who knows how to pull such a thing together. I think it would be a money-making machine.

Ideologically, I kind of like Sam Zell...

/I don't know how active he is in the LA Times' affairs/management. It would be a good time to step in.

Has it occurred to the Obamatons at the LA Times that a video that perhaps shows the One proclaiming or at least implying "Death to Israel! Death to the Jews!" might win him more votes than he would lose?

re: #171 biff

I was supposed to stay with lib friends in New England last night, and was watching TV with the husband when McCain came on the news. I had studiously been avoiding politics on this visit. Suddenly, the husband starting ranting about about McCain and Bush. I made a couple of comments about Obama's questionable fund raising, and he look at me and just starting screaming, " ing Jews" with a deranged look on his face, and just walked out of the room and up to his office. I grabbed my bag, apologized to his wife, a very old and dear friend who then forced me to explain the situation, and I left, having to find a hotel on my way home.

What the hell is going on?

It's the Neo-Com Revolution.

re: #132 phoenixgirl

if there is going to be wealth distribution, how much am i going to get?

-$$

re: #145 Sharmuta

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington definitely would not be made today. Or maybe it would, considering it is all about change and hope, and get as much respect as the current crop of political/war movies have been receiving from the public.

re: #142 unreconstructed rebel

The income tax was instituted as a way to wean the nation from tarriffs, and to pay for WWI. The tax rates were extended and raised repeatedly to fund WWII, and then into the Cold War. Consider that during WWII, the highest tax bracket was 88% - for income over $5 million. That isn't mere redistribution. That's confiscation.

It ranged from 1% on income up to $20k to 7% on income over $500,000 when it was instituted in 1913.

A history of tax rates is here. It's a fascinating study in how the tax rates have changed over time, and not for the better in most cases.

"Ethical problems"? Bull crap. The press are bottom-feeders who take pictures of crying mothers and burnt wreckage. Rest asssured that if the video was of Sarah Palin running around in a bikini, it would be up on YouTube like that! The fact that the video hasn't been released means that the video isn't potentially damaging, it IS really damaging.
The LA Times still has an opportunity to rectify things, but I doubt they will.

re: #158 razorbacker

Don't feel too badly about that. If you were so fortunate to be able to get Biden one-on-one in a discussion, that would make two people unable to explain what Biden talks about.

Biden is like one of those 'mystery voices' you sometimes hear while spelunking. Usually it is just wind blowing through a hole in the rock.

Heh! That does sound like Biden

re: #131 eschew_obfuscation

But the fact of the matter is that, even with a presumed $250k threshold, under BHO's plan, everyone will pay higher prices and folks down to the $25,000 level will pay higher taxes.

See [Link: www.americanthinker.com...] for a detailed explanation.

re: #133 SagamoreGal

I'm not so sure about your assessment of how bad weather would affect voter turnout. I would speculate that bad weather would tend to disproportionately bring out two strong pro-Obama demographics: college students, who have nothing to do all day and can therefore spend the time trudging through slush and waiting in traffic, and non-existent people, who don't need to brave the elements in order to vote, because they have no manifestation in the physical world anyway.

re: #58 Nevergiveup

BuZZ is for the bees, and they STING!

re: #168 maddogg

There have been more carry permit classes being conducted in our area as of late. lol.

re: #125 redstateredneck

Everybody ought to watch "Pushing Daisies" that night!

Best show on the air right now! Apparently it's in ratings trouble, so please give it a chance. It will make you forget politics and make you smile for an hour.

re: #136 lawhawk

Here's what's happening. The Obama people know that to get the tax and spend programs underway, they've got to hit more people who pay taxes, which means that they can't just keep it to people making over $250,000 or $200,000. It is extremely curious that after trying to hammer home the $250k level, that they're abandoning it in favor of much lower levels, which means many in the very bastions of blue land (NYC, LA, SF), will get hit by these very tax increases they claim to support in theory. Imagine the wailing as these folks see their take home pay disappear under the fog of tax hikes.

The threshold level keeps dropping, because the programs Obama seeks to fund will create a big sucking sound out of everyone's pockets.

People are forgetting one important fact. Obama isn't telling the truth about anything he's going to do. It will all be much more severe than we are being told. So no need to argue the $250,000 or $150,000 point. No one knows (or is telling us) how low the qualifying amount of earning will actually go.

re: #62 Charles

Empirically, to state that journalists are by nature capable of seeing things from more angles than mere (honest) mortals is the most unheard of thing I have ever heard of. Unless I am wrong, the scribbling trade is the only occupation specifically protected in the Bill of Rights (unless you count preachers). I do hold them to a higher standard and demand they step up their game. If this whole house o' cards collapses and we start over, let's think extra hard about the rewrite of that First Amendment. Maybe put in a penalty clause.

re: #171 biff

I was supposed to stay with lib friends in New England last night, and was watching TV with the husband when McCain came on the news. I had studiously been avoiding politics on this visit. Suddenly, the husband starting ranting about about McCain and Bush. I made a couple of comments about Obama's questionable fund raising, and he look at me and just starting screaming, " ing Jews" with a deranged look on his face, and just walked out of the room and up to his office. I grabbed my bag, apologized to his wife, a very old and dear friend who then forced me to explain the situation, and I left, having to find a hotel on my way home.

What the hell is going on?

I don't people are turning insane. I think they've been insane and it is becoming okay to voice it in public.

And by insane I mean no connection to reality, only their own worldview, where terrorists are good guys (AND they don't exist), fighting them is evil, and everything your eyes and heart tells you is opposite.

re: #178 lawhawk

The income tax was instituted as a way to wean the nation from tarriffs, and to pay for WWI. The tax rates were extended and raised repeatedly to fund WWII, and then into the Cold War. Consider that during WWII, the highest tax bracket was 88% - for income over $5 million. That isn't mere redistribution. That's confiscation.

It ranged from 1% on income up to $20k to 7% on income over $500,000 when it was instituted in 1913.

A history of tax rates is here. It's a fascinating study in how the tax rates have changed over time, and not for the better in most cases.

Maybe we should go back to 'shootin' revenuers'...

re: #171 biff

Same with me. A friend was supposed to stay over Friday, but we got into it over the Obama and I was informed that any criticism of him and other crooked dems is of the vast right wing conspiracy variety.No Jew bashing, but the friendship is on quick freeze.Willful ignorance and a dash of idolatry.

We had reduced our LA Times subscription to Sundays only as of about a year ago, however, due to this latest display of partisan censorship and unrepentant political bias, as of this past Sunday, our household has canceled our LA Times sub completely. Perhaps all those soon-to-be-unemployed elitist repositories of superior knowledge and judgment (I believe they call themselves "journalists" - heh) can find a job working for The One's soon-to-be-created Dept. of Propaganda.

re: #182 Last Mohican

I'm not so sure about your assessment of how bad weather would affect voter turnout. I would speculate that bad weather would tend to disproportionately bring out two strong pro-Obama demographics: college students, who have nothing to do all day and can therefore spend the time trudging through slush and waiting in traffic, and non-existent people, who don't need to brave the elements in order to vote, because they have no manifestation in the physical world anyway.

Although we cannot know the future, historically bad weather, even just rainy and messy, tends to favor GOP turnout.

The reason for things like motor-voter and ACORN is that leftists tend not to do things if it is too inconvenient, whereas right-leaning people will go the extra mile. It is tied to the very core of their political philosophy of personal responsibility.

re: #163 unreconstructed rebel

Have to make it an aerosol and spray from above.

re: #171 biff

What a horrible story. I'm sorry you had to endure that, and I thank you for standing up to this bigot.

I have had (or, admittedly, timidly avoided) several such scenes recently. The weird thing is that mine have been conversations with Jewish people. They glaze over in an Obamatrance, and start chanting their Obamamantras. I politely explain that, as a Jew, I can't support a man who has spent decades as a member of an anti-Jewish hate group, and heaped praise and money upon a former PLO terrorist who even now works to support anti-Jewish terrorism. And then my Jewish friends go berserk and start raving about how Sarah Palin is too religious or something, conclude that I am a fascist right-wing Fox News-watching Rush Limbaugh fan, and show me the door, without ever having denied or even addressed my points about Obama.

re: #171 biff

It's only going to get worse.

If Obama wins this, then all of us who fail to support him - fail to support "unity" and "hope" and "change" - will be treated like racist goons from a bygone era.

Keep an eye on the public schools during the Age of Obama, where his deification will begin almost immediately.

re: #189 experiencedtraveller

Maybe we should go back to 'shootin' revenuers'...

For a kinder, gentler approach, try tarring & feathering & riding out-of-town on a rail. LOL

Has this story been posted here yet?

Governor Palin hanged in effigy

Los Angeles sheriff's officials say the Halloween display isn't a hate crime.

(snip)

...Whitmore said that potential hate crimes are evaluated on a case-by-case basis. If the same display had been made of a Barack Obama-like doll, for example, authorities would have to evaluate it independently, Whitmore said...

Give me a break. I am so freaking tired of two sets of standards in this country. One for Democrats and the other for Republicans.

re: #147 buzzsawmonkey

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

As someone previously noted, I also get calls from the LA Times to subscribe. I always tell them that if they gave me their newspaper free for life I would not take that leftist propaganga rag. Just recently the last call from some guy representing the LA Times became very abusive in response to my comments so I just hung up the phone on him.

The LA Times is in big trouble here losing so many subscribers. Going after companies that advertise in this paper would really hurt them and eventually might help to close this paper down. What is the point of having a free press when all we get is a biased propaganda press. Why doesn't the LA Times just change the name to "Obama" and be done with the pretense.

re: #132 phoenixgirl

if there is going to be wealth distribution, how much am i going to get?

Can you express you 'need' better than other people can?

re: #194 Last Mohican

What a horrible story. I'm sorry you had to endure that, and I thank you for standing up to this bigot.

I have had (or, admittedly, timidly avoided) several such scenes recently. The weird thing is that mine have been conversations with Jewish people. They glaze over in an Obamatrance, and start chanting their Obamamantras. I politely explain that, as a Jew, I can't support a man who has spent decades as a member of an anti-Jewish hate group, and heaped praise and money upon a former PLO terrorist who even now works to support anti-Jewish terrorism. And then my Jewish friends go berserk and start raving about how Sarah Palin is too religious or something, conclude that I am a fascist right-wing Fox News-watching Rush Limbaugh fan, and show me the door, without ever having denied or even addressed my points about Obama.

For the American Jewish community there is a direct correlation between between the amount of Jewish education and Jewish observance and the stance on the election. The more "Jewish" they are the less Democrat/Obama they are, and vice versa. Among the Orthodox, the election polls run to 70 percent McCain-Palin.
And the very Orthodox matrons who wear wigs are going for Sarah Palin-style coiffures.

re: #199 Miss Molly

There is video of this story on the LA Times website video service that we are assured does not exist.

PIMF
Meant to address last post to #197

One of the problems with MSM is too many of them are taught the concepts of "Social Justice" and nothing about economics. People read the newspaper mainly for: Obits, Sports, Comics, Crossword/Suduko/Puzzles, Community News not covered by TV, Op-ed, lifestyle (TV, Food, Music, Arts etc), and in-depth news analysis. So what do most newspapers do? They drop obits unless you pay, drop or shrink the boxscores and other sports stats from the sports page, shrink the Comics to a size no one can read and pack the funnies page with politically correct garbage rather than actually funny strips, cut back on community news and actual reporting for cut and paste wire service reports (which one can get from the internet), drop the op from op-ed leaving only one viewpoint (forcing their readers back to the internet). Then they wonder why their papers continually lose readers. The LA Times has a guarenteed ad revenue generating story and rather than give the public what the public will buy. The LA Times would rather shoot itself in the foot in the name of their "Social Justice" ideology than make a bit of cash profit. Of course it is alot harder to feed a family on "Social Justice" and ideology and alot easier to feed the family using cash when at the supermarket.

I don't wish unemployment on anyone, even insane liberals. Even some of those people have families who don't deserve to be on the streets. But I sure do hope that they lose whatever remaining subscribers they have for their 'rag' over this. if there was any doubt remaining whatsoever about their bias, I'd say that it has been annihilated by this story and their lack of action on it.

if the tables were turned and this was McCain or Palin this video would be all over the place! I hope someone out there finds a copy of that video sometime this week. I still have faith that someone will find it.

re: #171 biff

I was supposed to stay with lib friends in New England last night, and was watching TV with the husband when McCain came on the news. I had studiously been avoiding politics on this visit. Suddenly, the husband starting ranting about about McCain and Bush. I made a couple of comments about Obama's questionable fund raising, and he look at me and just starting screaming, " ing Jews" with a deranged look on his face, and just walked out of the room and up to his office. I grabbed my bag, apologized to his wife, a very old and dear friend who then forced me to explain the situation, and I left, having to find a hotel on my way home.

What the hell is going on?

The more insecure people are with their 'beliefs', the louder they get.

As someone just noted it would be a wonderful idea to find someone who could buy out the LA Times or another large news printer and turn in into an actual real newspaper. How great to have an actual newspaper that printed real unbiased news. That newspaper would be so unique that a lot of people elsewhere in the country might demand the same standard.

re: #182 Last Mohican

I'm not so sure about your assessment of how bad weather would affect voter turnout. I would speculate that bad weather would tend to disproportionately bring out two strong pro-Obama demographics: college students, who have nothing to do all day and can therefore spend the time trudging through slush and waiting in traffic, and non-existent people, who don't need to brave the elements in order to vote, because they have no manifestation in the physical world anyway.

hahahahahahahahahahahahha

Well, at least Bill O'reilly caught a hold of this story and is doing some expose on it tonight. Hopefully, that'll do something.

re: #182 Last Mohican

Historically, college students are the LEAST likely to vote if it is inconvenient.
Whether it is raining, they stayed up too late partying and celebrating the night before, whether they live out of state and didn't bother to apply for an absentee ballot --since many do not have residency in their college town or it is just anti-climactic on election day.

They are the most enthusiastic and even passionate working IN an election, will show up for rallies, voter canvassing and phone banks but aren't the one's who make a strong effort to vote!

The email address in the newsbusters site doesn't work. The fax number, however, does work. So, if you emailed Zell, try again. Just fax it.

re: #171 biff

I was supposed to stay with lib friends in New England last night, and was watching TV with the husband when McCain came on the news. I had studiously been avoiding politics on this visit. Suddenly, the husband starting ranting about about McCain and Bush. I made a couple of comments about Obama's questionable fund raising, and he look at me and just starting screaming, " ing Jews" with a deranged look on his face, and just walked out of the room and up to his office. I grabbed my bag, apologized to his wife, a very old and dear friend who then forced me to explain the situation, and I left, having to find a hotel on my way home.

What the hell is going on?

Sorry, that must have made you feel terrible. Stuff like that makes me sick.

Maybe they laid off the only guy who knew how to put the video up on the Web site.

/la times, soon to be history

re: #125 redstateredneck

Everybody ought to watch "Pushing Daisies" that night!

The women in that show are definitely better looking than BHO.

maybe they are afraid it is a fake!
signed,
Dan Rather
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Someone suggested spreading a rumor about what's on it (you know, like Barack kissing Bernadine Rae Dohrn, that sort of thing) and forcing the LAT's hand. The only risk would be that if the rumor is too outrageous, what's actually on will seem tame by comparison (and only by comparison).

Charles: You are conservative and you report facts that liberals seek to hide. You do a great service to America. Maybe you are not a "neutral" reporter. Even so, you are more important to all of us, as you are. Besides, you give no quarter to right-wing fascists and nuts who try to masquerade as conservatives.

No matter who wins on 11-4-08, you and LGF -- and your Minions -- will have a huge impact on American society. Thank you for your work.

Seems they are far more likely to release readers and employees then this video tape. Partisanship trumps all. How very progressive.

re: #186 midwestgak

I agree with you on this. I looked at his tax plan from his website and it raised more questions than it answered. He is stating a lot of things without really having a plan, and then if he changes his plan it, such as he did with mortgage credits, it raises more questions. For instance, he now says the mortgage credits are for those who do not itemize and they must have a job. I know that as soon as I got a mortgage it benefited me to itemize, so it raises the question to me of who exactly will benefit from this tax credit. Well, I had a question about who gets a mortgage without a job, and I have answered that myself. But, the question does come up with what happens to the person who has a mortgage and a job and doesn't itemize and they lose their job, do they still qualify for the mortgage credit? How many hours a week or year do you have to work to qualify? If these questions come off the top of my head just by looking at his tax plan, why aren't these questions and others being asked?

The problem is that people just accept his words without looking at his plans. They sound great until you read them.

Sam Zell bought the paper within the past several years after some very well-timed widescale liquidations from among his own vast real estate empire. His reputation is as a "vulture" investor who acquires distressed property and turns them around through everything from proper management to simply better funding. I have never met a real estate tycoon that didn't have at least 2 or 3 city councilmen's cell phone numbers on speed dial, even before cell phones were ever invented. Pardon me for farting in Sam Zell's general direction, but something smells of quid pro quo.

re: #111 Jinx

Exactly, which I why, I think, it's dragging its heels on this video.

It's hoping that, once in office, the Obamassiah will reward them, and even take care of all those pesky internet bloggers who are taking away their business.

re: #206 debutaunt

Look at it this way, debutaunt:

Doesn't look as if those people were really worth knowing. (I mean, if you actually had to explain to the wife why you didn't want to stay around a guy screaming "(*(&&^^%g Jews!"----these people are never going to get it anyway, so don't waste your time).

Sorry, biff, I see it was you debutaunt was responding to in #206.

But my answer is still the same. These people are just a waste of your precious time anyway.

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Hmmmm...off the hook or too many calls?

The L.A. Times Acknowledges its Agenda

re: #174 Clio

I've thought about that myself, Clio---and that's one reason why I'm convinced that this video must contain something really, REALLY bad to make the Times so antsy about showing it!

It must be light-years beyond your usual Jew-hate/bash-Israel/Poor, oppressed lil' Palestine stuff---which probably would win Obama more votes, to be honest. It's just got to be something really raw! Bill Ayers sitting on Obama's lap? Occult rituals? Human sacrifice? The anti-christ arriving in cloud of sulfer and brimstone as guest of honor? George Soros announcing plans for world domination? Dogs and cats living together? What is the Times hiding?

(But, never mind that! Let's all talk about Sarah Palin's wardrobe! And her voice! She sounds kinda dumb, doesn't she? And wasn't McCain smoking in one of his POW videos? What a bad influence on our youth!----sarc. What else?)

Of course there's an ethical problem with releasing the tapes. The released tapes would reveal that the original story had been less than candid, and that would make the L.A. Times look bad.

That, in turn, would damage the reputation of the press.

The L.A. Times is friends with other newspapers.

It's unethical to damage the reputation of your friends.

/liberal

How about massive lizard army in front of la times to bring attention to tape.

re: #24 Jimash

"“We’re not a video service,” Doyle McManus,"

Perhaps Mr. McManus should familiarize himself with the website of the LA Times.

La Times Video Service

Seriously, they have 192 video's on the presidential election on the home page. I decided not to count the video's in all the other categories but video's like "local bikers fighting to take back a popular trail" are offered. Why not settle the debate and let everyone see what they have? More hits equals more $ for advertisers.

# 81 Vagabond Trader:
"Gee, I wonder what could possibly be unethical on this tape. Nothing to do with radical Palestinians, the Obama's, and their friend Billy Ayers bashing Israel and Jews I'm sure. Right?"
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reposted from yesterday,,,,,,here's some speculation as per the content of the videotape the LA Times is hiding from the American people:

1. Barack Obama participating in the night's festivities, taking his turn at the lectern toasting the terrorist Rashid Khalidi, toasting the PLO and bashing "the Zionists". And maybe a shot or two at "whitey" while he's at it.

2. Barack Obama and his wife Michelle are shown sitting at the same table with domestic terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn. Glasses are raised and a jolly ol' Jew-bashing time is had by the good friends Barack, Michelle, Bill and Bernadine.

3. Barack Obama takes his turn giving a speech bashing "the Zionists". Barack returns to his table where the above # 2 takes place.

OK then, I admit it, that's not just mere speculation as to the contents of the video and I may be engaged in some "audacity of hope".
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re: #171 biff

I was supposed to stay with lib friends in New England last night, and was watching TV with the husband when McCain came on the news. I had studiously been avoiding politics on this visit. Suddenly, the husband starting ranting about about McCain and Bush. I made a couple of comments about Obama's questionable fund raising, and he look at me and just starting screaming, " ing Jews" with a deranged look on his face, and just walked out of the room and up to his office. I grabbed my bag, apologized to his wife, a very old and dear friend who then forced me to explain the situation, and I left, having to find a hotel on my way home.

What the hell is going on?

First, my condolences. And also my deep congratulations for your dignified act of courage in leaving. Conservatives know that the current Left is filled w/anti-Semites. I think this phenomena is just becoming evident within my Jewish husband's family - who are all left-leaning - and are currently experiencing varying degrees of cognitive dissonance. I only pray the dissonance grows loud enough to dissuade them from pulling levers for Obama.

If it is a forgery, and it damages the Republican- lets release it a month before the election. If it is authentic, and could damage the Democrat, lets bury it. Something stinks here. Maybe we should get Dan Rather on the case....

Doyle me old classmate (or so I've read): get real.

I wonder how much money the LA Times could get if they were to simply sell the tape to the highest bidder. In addition, I wonder how much they may have already been paid to NOT release it. Either way, why don't they simply offer it for sale at their website? They could sure use the money, right? And whoever is willing to pay the most for it could then either put it on YouTube or bury it.

LA Times- You can only hold the 1/2 of your audience that agrees with your relentless partisanship. Why do you want to lose the other half? Why are you taking this risk?

re: #216 jimmyk

Spreading Rumours is not the answer. Think about what you have suggested. People are confused enough already and distrust of the only faction who has guts and courage to expose the rumours and lies will be victorious! Don't fall for the easy road path.

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