Ohio? Its all legal.

Potential tyrants are trying to take over.

But screw them.

This country is about freedom,

And it always will be.

Democraps: Busted once again.

I've previously commented on how incompetently ODJFS is run.

Looks like I'll have to add "corruptly" to the list, as well.

cheers

eon

The Messiah's minions will do these things for your own good. Bask in the glow of their concern for your welfare.

/[ptui]

I am Ojoe

I wonder how she's feel if her records were searched.

Saw in the paper today several "Joe the Plumber" ads.

Heh.

And that's why they call them police states, in case you wondered. Gulag America, brought to you by the democrats. Coming soon to your town, unless you fight on.

Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look” at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. “Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way.”

So, ANYONE who makes news is gonna' be researched to see if he/she owes child suport, Jones-Kelly?

How can that stupid cow be fired?

God in Heaven! The left gets worse by the day!

re: #8 Racer X

I think the Joe the Plumber thing is kind of a bummer. I wish there was more excitement about the Republican candidate than some plumber who once asked a question.

Toledo Mayor Carty Finkbeiner admitted yesterday that a member of the media made the request of the Toledo Police Department for Joe ‘the Plumber’ Wurzelbacher’s records, NewsTalk 1370 WSPD is reporting. The comments were made in response to questions during an unrelated press conference.

When do we get to find out which "member of the media" requested this information? And why the hell did they COMPLY?

Just wait until they get all your medical records on line. Imagine the fun they have then.

Only the fearless are free.

Only the strong can be gentle.

Only the simple can see God.

re: #5 joncelli

The Messiah's minions will do these things for your own good. Bask in the glow of their concern for your welfare.

/[ptui]

This is an old story in Ohio. It happens every time the Dems run the state government.

Their contempt for the average person is exceeded only by their intense dislike of criticism. Or even being asked questions.

I understand that Ms. Jones-Kelley is listed on The One's website as a potential department head at the federal level.

cheers

eon

I do think that people who win the lottery should have their names run through the child support computer, though. The lottery is a state business and it is the business of the state to track down dead-beats.

re: #10 MandyManners

How can that stupid cow be fired?

Only with a dispensation from the Pope, I think. These local officials get pretty entrenched.

re: #10 MandyManners

So, ANYONE who makes news is gonna' be researched to see if he/she owes child suport, Jones-Kelly?

How can that stupid cow be fired?

She can't. Her superiors are all Dems. 2006 is really biting us in the butt in Ohio.

Which is still only a distraction from the main story: when asked point-blank, "Are you a commie?" Hussein Husseinovich replied, "yes, as a matter of fact I am"! What was done to Joe the Plumber is secondary, but yes, deeply disturbing on a personal level (what did this man do to deserve this?), and given how close Husseinovich is to the Presidency, on a national level as well.

re: #10 MandyManners

So, ANYONE who makes news is gonna' be researched to see if he/she owes child suport, Jones-Kelly?

How can that stupid cow be fired?

By her logic, of course, she has now made the news...so should be researched. An argument I doubt she'd buy.

Finkbeiner is the mayor who tossed the marines out --

TOLEDO, OH -- Mayor Carty Finkbeiner on Friday ordered some 200 members of Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marines from Grand Rapids, Michigan, out of Toledo just before the unit was supposed to start a weekend of urban warfare training downtown.

The mayor’s spokesperson, Brian Schwartz said, “The mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people. He did not want them practicing and drilling in a highly visible area."

[Link: www.nbc24.com...]

The Cleveland Brownshirts

What a bunch of BS. What is the nexus bitch? You should be fored and convicted.
Obama has an enemies list that dwarfs Hillary's and Nixon's.

re: #15 rawmuse

I don't give a flying fuck what anybody knows about me

re: #17 eon

I understand that Ms. Jones-Kelley is listed on The One's website as a potential department head at the federal level.

cheers

eon

[RAISED EYEBROWS]...can we confirm this?

Let's hope that they are their own freaking "October Surprise".

BBL

This kind of digging into background and even surveilence and wiretaps is ONLY illegal if used to locate terrorists.

It is perfectly fine to use against political opponents and ordinary Citizens.

I thought everyone knew that.

/

re: #25 pat

What a bunch of BS. What is the nexus bitch? You should be fired and convicted.
Obama has an enemies list that dwarfs Hillary's and Nixon's.

PIYF

re: #17 eon

This is an old story in Ohio. It happens every time the Dems run the state government.

Their contempt for the average person is exceeded only by their intense dislike of criticism. Or even being asked questions.

I understand that Ms. Jones-Kelley is listed on The One's website as a potential department head at the federal level.
cheers

eon

Really?

re: #17 eon

I understand that Ms. Jones-Kelley is listed on The One's website as a potential department head at the federal level.

Dare I ask, head of what?

re: #23 nightlight

Finkbeiner is the mayor who tossed the marines out --

TOLEDO, OH -- Mayor Carty Finkbeiner on Friday ordered some 200 members of Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marines from Grand Rapids, Michigan, out of Toledo just before the unit was supposed to start a weekend of urban warfare training downtown.

The mayor’s spokesperson, Brian Schwartz said, “The mayor asked them to leave because they frighten people. He did not want them practicing and drilling in a highly visible area."

[Link: www.nbc24.com...]

nice connection there.

re: #31 MandyManners

Really?

That is ridiculous.

re: #19 joncelli

Only with a dispensation from the Pope, I think. These local officials get pretty entrenched.

Sounds like a job for Joe the Plumber!

What greater way to silence people than rummage through private documents. Except Joe is not silent.
I hope this woman not only loses her job but she cannot work anywhere in the US, continental or otherwise. Let her be a custodian or some menial job. It would serve her right for violating someone's privacy for her own ends.

re: #26 Ojoe
You will if you are ever denied health or life insurance based on a medical condition or life style choice documented in your health history.

"[Toledo Mayor Carty Finkbeiner] did not say which news outlet, nor which reporter, made the request. He also did not identify the individual who ran the report."

Why not?
Why are the actions of reporters free from scrutiny?

re: #20 Dark_Falcon

She can't. Her superiors are all Dems. 2006 is really biting us in the butt in Ohio.

That'll learn ya'!

re: #10 MandyManners

So, ANYONE who makes news is gonna' be researched to see if he/she owes child suport, Jones-Kelly?

How can that stupid cow be fired?

Actually, her statement was that anyone "abruptly thrust into the public eye" was checked out on general principles.

Right. And I'm Sonja Henie.

As to how she can be fired- not going to happen. The only hope we have is that Mike Crites, the GOP candidate for AG, beats "Tricky Dick" Cordray, the Dem candidate (and State Treasurer, just now) next Tuesday.

If Cordray wins, look for all this to quietly go away.

cheers

eon

Wolfie? You out there?

re: #32 arethusa

Department of Shielding the Messiah and Striking Down Those Who Question Him (DSMSDTWH). She's just the woman for the job.

re: #22 arethusa

By her logic, of course, she has now made the news...so should be researched. An argument I doubt she'd buy.

I hope someone does a number on her.

re: #37 snowcrash

I still do not care

I will be free in my own mind

re: #34 TheMatrix31

That is ridiculous.

What is ridiculus?

I hope Joe the Plumber sues this woman no matter what! The fact that the Ohio Governor says he sees nothing wrong with what she did is another reason this nation needs Joe the Plumber to perform a nationwide Roto-Rooter job! We need ALL of our pipes cleaned and ASAP!

Doing illegal searches is only wrong when it is done by someone, or their campaign, that will not be anointed as Supreme Messiah if elected.

re: #45 MandyManners

What is ridiculus?

The possibility that she was up as a federal department head possibility.

Actually she gave $2500 to Obama's national campaign on 7/31 and $2500 to the Obama Victory Fund on 7/30. Go here and enter her last (jones-kelley) and first (Helen) into the proper fields.

It looks like she gave to the Obama campaign in two contributions, one of $2300, and another of $200 on the same day. Of course, the last $200 is illegal.

re: #31 MandyManners

Really?

It was mentioned on HotAir. No link.

/unconfirmed

cheers

eon

Ohio, the new Chicago.

re: #39 MandyManners

Yeah, I've got a grim feeling of schadenfreude directed toward all those Republicans who thought they would "send the party a lesson" by sitting out the elections. Thanks, assholes.

re: #40 eon

Actually, her statement was that anyone "abruptly thrust into the public eye" was checked out on general principles.

Right. And I'm Sonja Henie.

As to how she can be fired- not going to happen. The only hope we have is that Mike Crites, the GOP candidate for AG, beats "Tricky Dick" Cordray, the Dem candidate (and State Treasurer, just now) next Tuesday.

If Cordray wins, look for all this to quietly go away.

cheers

eon

I hope the voters in Ohio see that this could happen to them.

KRIPS!
When ya think they've stooped to the bottom ,the hole gets
DEEPER!
When they start to spin this we to slam an AUGER in their asses!
Drilling for oil will be FREE!

I think they should lay out details of Helen Jones-Kelly's life for all the world to see. Got any secrets Helen?

re: #17 eon

Let's be sure to keep that name in mind if it's an appointment that needs Congressional approval.

Toledo Mayor Carty Finkbeiner admitted yesterday that a member of the media made the request of the Toledo Police Department for Joe ‘the Plumber’ Wurzelbacher’s records, NewsTalk 1370 WSPD is reporting. The comments were made in response to questions during an unrelated press conference.

Finkbeiner did not say which news outlet, nor which reporter, made the request. He also did not identify the individual who ran the report

.

What a shocker...who would have even considered that the media was behind it?

/all those with their heads in the sand, no doubt

re: #52 joncelli

Yeah, I've got a grim feeling of schadenfreude directed toward all those Republicans who thought they would "send the party a lesson" by sitting out the elections. Thanks, assholes.

That lesson needs to be hammered home every day.

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I think the Joe the Plumber thing is kind of a bummer. I wish there was more excitement about the Republican candidate than some plumber who once asked a question.

Yeah, too bad Sarah Palin didn't give McCain a boost either.

USSR: United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic
NAZI: National SOCIALIST German Workers Party

Keep thinking that the Messiah and you fucking idiots following him are benevolent change agents. Just keep thinking it.

I renewed my membership to the NRA. Lifetime Member now. Check that database punkasses. Then check the CHL database and perhaps the NICS. WE HAVE BEEN READY FOR YOU COMMIES FOR DECADES. BRING IT!

And if the L.A. Times had a compromising video about Joe the Plumber, they'd release.

re: #42 joncelli

Department of Shielding the Messiah and Striking Down Those Who Question Him (DSMSDTWH). She's just the woman for the job.

I'd sooner place her in the Department of Educational Empathy Projects and Special High Intensity Training (DEEPSHIT).

"Don't come back till you have him!" the Ticktockman said, very quietly, very sincerely, extremely dangerously.
They used dogs. They used probes. They used cardioplate crossoffs. They used teepers. They used bribery. They used stiktytes. They used intimidation. They used torment. They used torture. They used finks. They used cops. They used search & seizure. They used fallaron. They used betterment incentive. They used fingerprints. They used Bertillon. They used cunning. They used guile. They used treachery. They used Raoul Mitgong, but he didn't help much. They used applied physics. They used techniques of criminology.
And what the hell: they caught him.
-from "Repent, Harlequin! Said the Ticktockman" by Harlan Ellison
Heck, Joe. You never had a chance.

re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No. I'm in here!

re: #52 joncelli

"send the party a lesson"

Or teach the party a lesson or even send the party a message. I can't wait for this fucking election to be over.

Wolfie! Check this out. In the neighborhood!

What is going on in Ohio? This federal judge saying park benches can be used as an address is beyond outrageous! Ohio seems to be infested with voter insanity. Sorry Ohio.

UGH! And now it has spread down here! We have 123% of our county registered to vote! And McCain is winning MS by 10%! OY!

re: #17 eon

I understand that Ms. Jones-Kelley is listed on The One's website as a potential department head at the federal level.

Presumably there is a /snark tag missing, and we should read "I understand that..." as "I would hardly be surprised if it were to be announced that..."

re: #44 Ojoe

Stone walls do not a prison make
Nor iron bars a cage.

re: #56 wolfie

They'll control the Senate. She would breeze through.

re: #37 snowcrash

You will if you are ever denied health or life insurance based on a medical condition or life style choice documented in your health history.

"Life stye choice", like Democrat?

re: #48 TheMatrix31

The possibility that she was up as a federal department head possibility.

It's scarey, too.

If there is any Republican who refuses to vote for McCain/Palin because the senator is "not conservative enough" reading this, GET OFF YOUR BUTT NEXT TUESDAY AND VOTE FOR AMERICA!

re: #61 Sol Roth

Sorry about the F-word. At this point I'm just about done with words.

re: #49 Lee Coller

Actually she gave $2500 to Obama's national campaign on 7/31 and $2500 to the Obama Victory Fund on 7/30. Go here and enter her last (jones-kelley) and first (Helen) into the proper fields.

It looks like she gave to the Obama campaign in two contributions, one of $2300, and another of $200 on the same day. Of course, the last $200 is illegal.

I'd say she is getting paid to much. She has way to much discretionary income?

Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK’d the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.

And the reasoning was?

She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.

Ahh, ok I believe ya, ya I really do. NOT!

Does this type of discourse really pass the smell test? If it does, I'm living in an alternate universe. Sheesh!

God damn America!

///sss

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

re: #51 BakaRanger

Ohio, the new Chicago.

Nope, they don't rate that good. No Sears Tower, no Field Museum, no Bears. Ohio can never be Chicago.

Ya think THAT'S weird? How about being told to blow off your work and school responsibilities to work for the Messiah?

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Oh, and you know what else? California is about to replace their JROTC courses with an Ethnic Studies class. Are there any lizards pinned down in California needing artillery support?

"...He loved Big Brother"

Pshaw!

This is nothing compared to what we do in the hellhole called Venezuela the greatest workers paradise on earth and bastion of free working people!

re: #77 Charles

Nefarious.

re: #79 ClosetConservative

Ya think THAT'S weird? How about being told to blow off your work and school responsibilities to work for the Messiah?

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

Oh, and you know what else? California is about to replace their JROTC courses with an Ethnic Studies class. Are there any lizards pinned down in California needing artillery support?

Link for the CA story, please.

Toledo Mayor Carty Finkbeiner admitted yesterday that a member of the media made the request of the Toledo Police Department for Joe ‘the Plumber’ Wurzelbacher’s records,

I don't understand how that has anything to do with why one of his employees broke the law and made the illegal search. The media made us do it? Is that his story?

Ya hear that media folk? You've been 100% in the tank for Obama and have devoted your entire existence to getting him elected, and at the first sign of trouble they throw you under the bus.

Who will be next? Tito the builder?

re: #77 Charles

From here on out, they ask the questions.

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

7 days left. Not taking any chances at all. Its crunch time!

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

Why search for things that they would then have to toss down the memory hole. Easier to just disallow the unwashed from knowing things their betters deem not worth knowing.

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

Searching is racist, didn't you know?!

re: #74 Sol Roth

Sorry about the F-word. At this point I'm just about done with words.

Time to head to the range and work off a little frustration?

I am Joe the Plumber

imagine Fisa, Civilian National Security Force, Demand of "Volunteer"ism for middle school high School Kids, and America.

With MSM in compliance

re: #80 WitchDoctor

"...He loved Big Brother"

No, I doubt they'll force him down like that. More likely they'll just have some Teamsters "accident" him.

re: #77 Charles

The only searching Obama approves is of citizens who question him.

re: #82 Ojoe

Nefarious.

...but predictable.

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

I get an image of a bunch of cats scatching busily in their litter-box.

re: #91 MandyManners

Time to head to the range and work off a little frustration?

If I were to go to the range to work off my frustrations I would end up hip-deep in brass.

re: #74 Sol Roth

Sorry about the F-word. At this point I'm just about done with words.

The "F" word was appropriate ...
Go in peace! LOL

Hope you saw it Wolfie. Galax, Virginia made Drudge.

Old folks at local republican HQ attacked with pepper spray by Obamiacs!

re: #40 eon

Actually, her statement was that anyone "abruptly thrust into the public eye" was checked out on general principles.

Right. And I'm Sonja Henie.

Actually, that policy makes sense. If the government agencies ignored someone that suddenly became highly visible, like Joe the Plumber, and it was found out later that he had a warrant out, or was a 'deadbeat' dad, then the agencies involved get a PR black eye when someone asks, "How did you not see this guy, He was all over the news?"
The results of the search however, should remain as private as is required by confidentiality protections, and that is where the partisan bias really shows. If it is a Republican, you can bet that everything will be leaked, and if it is a Democrat, you can bet that nothing will be leaked, but just "reported on."

re: #99 FurryOldGuyJeans

If I were to go to the range to work off my frustrations I would end up hip-deep in brass.

Restraint!

re: #99 FurryOldGuyJeans

If I were to go to the range to work off my frustrations I would end up hip-deep in brass.

SO?
snicker...

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wolfie! Check this out. In the neighborhood!

This staggers my mind.
When I first heard of it, I hoped that it would be something personal rather than political. Can you imagine this kind of divisiveness appearing in Galax? Unbelievable.

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hope you saw it Wolfie. Galax, Virginia made Drudge.

Old folks at local republican HQ attacked with pepper spray by Obamiacs!

WHAT?

re: #103 MandyManners

Restraint!

Hip-deep in brass would be restraint. ;)

re: #71 joncelli

But we can scream.

re: #106 MandyManners

WHAT?

See my #67!

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

Its not on the home page, but you can still search, but you have to first dive into a blog thread to get access to the "search all blogs" function.

re: #43 MandyManners

I hope someone does a number on her.

The only thing not related to this story that comes up with Googling is that she co-chairs something called Parity, Inc., which seems innocuous enough.

re: #53 MandyManners

I hope the voters in Ohio see that this could happen to them.

According to the Columbus Disgrace Dispatch Sunday, McCain leads The One in SouthEast and South Central OH, but The One leads McCain in the north half of the state. Specifically, in Cuyahoga Co., the Cleveland area.

Twenty years ago, that would have meant it was all over, as the Cleveland area repeatedly showed that it had enough "voters" (I use the term advisedly) that anyone running for a statewide or Federal office could take Cuyahoga, blow off the rest of the state, and still win.

But for the last decade, Cleveland and Toledo (our two Mistakes On The Lake) have been losing population at a steady rate, as shown by the last two census (1990 and 2000). While the south part of the state has been gaining- slightly.

So, this could mean that The One might take all the "traditional" Dem strongholds in the state, and still lose. Or, it could mean that the Dems (specifically Miss Brunner) have enough "undocumented" (nonexistent) voters to give the Messiah the Oval Office.

We shall see.

cheers

eon

re: #101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hope you saw it Wolfie. Galax, Virginia made Drudge.

Old folks at local republican HQ attacked with pepper spray by Obamiacs!

Are you sure they didn't pepper spray themselves?
/

re: #51 BakaRanger

Ohio, the new Chicago.

Nope, they don't rate that good. No Sears Tower, no Field Museum, no Bears. Ohio can never be Chicago.

Just a comment on the corruption aspect of Chicago, not so much what makes the city great.

I weep for the future of America under the Obamessiah

re: #110 mich-again

Its not on the home page, but you can still search, but you have to first dive into a blog thread to get access to the "search all blogs" function.

Go search on the term 'socialist'.

re: #113 HoosierHoops

Are you sure they didn't pepper spray themselves?
/

Dude. Read it. They arrested the little twits. It's twue!

Two people were arrested Monday afternoon after an altercation led to five Republican campaign workers being sprayed with Mace at their headquarters in Galax.

Galax Police Chief Rick Clark said officers were dispatched shortly before 1 p.m. to the Galax Republican headquarters on East Grayson Street when a caller reported someone had sprayed office workers with Mace.

Responding officers arrested Daniel Cason Meinecke, 29, and Cara Annis Hindman, 26, both of Galax.

Meinecke was charged with one count of misdemeanor assault, Hindman was charged with five counts of misdemeanor assault.

Galax Republican Chairman Mike Stevens said he was one of the volunteers sprayed. He said a man and woman came into the office and asked for campaign yard signs for the Democratic ticket of Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

After being told the Obama-Biden campaign office was up the street, Stevens said, the man said he was aware of that, but that he thought Democratic signs were being stolen and “stashed” at the Republican office.

Stevens told him that nobody there had stolen signs, not were they “stashing” any in the building.

A confrontation escalated and, Stevens said, the man began to use some four-letter words.

SNIP

re: #72 debutaunt
Was thinking more like cig smoking or more than moderate alcohol consumption or even morbid obesity. Never thought about health risks assoc with political party affiliation. Maybe I better start if "The One" gets in! lol

Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look” at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. “Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way.”

Helen, I hope forces are digging up your dirt. You know, "taking a look at you"

I look forward to reading all about it

It must be a home improvement site, because I get tons of hits when I search Obama's blog for Plumber.

re: #104 reloadingisnotahobby

SO?
snicker...

Not all of us have room for a reloading setup. That give you an edge is that sort of release.

re: #70 wolfie

Stone walls do not a prison make
Nor iron bars a cage.

O/T but speaking of Stone, that POS Oliver Stone's hit piece on President Bush, "W", is a major FLOP! It won't even make back the money it cost to make it. That makes Hollywood 7 for 7 on Anti-Iraq/Bush films. Not a single one made money.

/Breaks my heart.

re: #69 Throbert McGee

Presumably there is a /snark tag missing, and we should read "I understand that..." as "I would hardly be surprised if it were to be announced that..."

No, there's a "reporting an unconfirmed statement in the responses on HotAir" tag missing.

/as in I typed before thinking.

Apologies all around.

cheers

eon

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wolfie! Check this out. In the neighborhood!

Anyone who comes looking for his guy's signs at the opponent's HQ is looking for trouble.

Please let us know if there are any further developments.

Gotta run. See y'all in a bit!

re: #111 arethusa

The only thing not related to this story that comes up with Googling is that she co-chairs something called Parity, Inc., which seems innocuous enough.

Community organizers.

"Galax Republican Chairman Mike Stevens said he was one of the volunteers sprayed. He said a man and woman came into the office and asked for campaign yard signs for the Democratic ticket of Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

After being told the Obama-Biden campaign office was up the street, Stevens said, the man said he was aware of that, but that he thought Democratic signs were being stolen and “stashed” at the Republican office.

Stevens told him that nobody there had stolen signs, not were they “stashing” any in the building.

A confrontation escalated and, Stevens said, the man began to use some four-letter words."

[Link: www.galaxgazette.com...]

Murtha shows the type of contempt that elitists have for voters.

re: #119 snowcrash

Oh, that reminds me, there will also be a Department of Banning Things That Make You Happy (DBTTMYH) under the new Messiah admin. But it'll be for your own good, you racist crackers.

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

An edge is good! Yes?
I need some range time very soon!

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

You can always use Google's 'search this site only" feature, but I'm sure you're aware of that.

Because Helen Jones-Kelly also happens to be a maximum $2300 contributor to the Barack Obama campaign.

Well, at least the blogosphere is watching the watchmen.
And kudos to the Columbus Dispatch on this story.

re: #118 MandyManners

More projection:
"...he thought Democratic signs were being stolen and “stashed” at the Republican office."

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks for ruining my dinner... ; )

re: #116 zenren

Go search on the term 'socialist'.

OK. I'll bite. First hit. Hurray for Obama and the Robin Hood Socialist Agenda!

re: #114 BakaRanger

re: #51 BakaRanger

Ohio, the new Chicago.

Nope, they don't rate that good. No Sears Tower, no Field Museum, no Bears. Ohio can never be Chicago.

Just a comment on the corruption aspect of Chicago, not so much what makes the city great.

I know. i just felt a need to show some Chicago pride. The machine that produced Barack Obama is Chicago's shame, and sometimes I feel the need to counter balance it with some of Chicago's good points.

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

I only wish that Charles granted me more than one up-ding per post. Alas, he does not and I'm reduced to just one. Life sucks and then you die. Oh well, I shall soldier on!

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

I'll work on it. I just saw it on FOX. I'm fairly sure it was Brit Hume. THe jist of it is that the Phys. Ed. credit for the program has already been dropped, and now it's up to the voters as to whether to keep the program or replace it with an Ethnic Studies course.

Update: Ugh, the FOX news is running really slowly. Search 'JROTC'.

I hate to break it to you folks, but the vast majority of the people who work at Local, State and at the Federal level that have computer access to your information are gulp...! Democrats! if you don't believe me stop in to any DMV office, Federal Bulding or any governmental branch and take a look. It's only going to get worse.

re: #131 reloadingisnotahobby

An edge is good! Yes?
I need some range time very soon!

Yes, I meant it in a good way.

re: #77 Charles

How interesting. The home page of the Barack Obama web site no longer has any kind of search feature.

They used to; I know, I used it. It's been removed.

They are hunkering down, limiting ALL access with a HOPE that they can avoid any major faux pas or leaks...
To bad, Zero, you lose anyway

re: #123 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

O/T but speaking of Stone, that POS Oliver Stone's hit piece on President Bush, "W", is a major FLOP! It won't even make back the money it cost to make it. That makes Hollywood 7 for 7 on Anti-Iraq/Bush films. Not a single one made money.

/Breaks my heart.

Oh darn, Hollywood leftist crap losing money. Things just seem right with the world for a bit now.

re: #15 rawmuse

Just wait until they get all your medical records on line. Imagine the fun they have then.

Avoidable.

re: #138 GeeWiz

Ill help : )

re: #38 jaunte

"[Toledo Mayor Carty Finkbeiner] did not say which news outlet, nor which reporter, made the request. He also did not identify the individual who ran the report."

Why not?
Why are the actions of reporters free from scrutiny?

Don'tcha know according to Politico, "Most political reporters (investigative journalists tend to have a different psychological makeup) are temperamentally inclined to see multiple sides of a story, and being detached from their own opinions comes relatively easy."

HAHAHAHAHA

re: #128 jaunte

The victims were all older people, in their seventies. Not exactly the kind to be stealing signs, eh?
Young punks.

The question is this. Is there something about Obama that would attract and excite young punks?

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Let us look at this election:

1) More money spent by one of the candidates thus far than by any two in the past.
2) Much of that money raised from a website designed to accept fraudulent charges that evade campaign finance laws.
3) Overt election fraud in at least ten states on behalf of that candidate.
4) The vote fraud winked at and connived at by elected officials and appointed judges displaying blatant partisan bias.
5) Law-enforcement officials forming a "Truth Squad" to intimidate advertisers on the candidate's behalf.
6) Massive media cover-up and suppression of the candidate's record.
7) Massive and blatant media bias against the other candidate.
8) Efforts at intimidation and silencing directed at media entities and individuals who disagree with the candidate.
9) Incessant race-baiting engaged in while complaining of non-existent racial comments.
10) Rampant vandalism by the candidate's supporters, as well as attempts to intimidate or shout down supporters of the other side.
11) Public officials misusing their positions to investigate and target ordinary citizens expressing opinions contrary to the candidate.

All this and more, without the candidate having any formal power in the office he seeks. If he gains his objective, is there any reason that these abuses will decrease? No.

Many of these actions are perilously close to police-state behavior; in some cases, the only thing that makes them not police-state behavior is that they are not (yet) national policy or the policy of the highest official in the relevant jurisdiction.

Abner Louima alleged that one of the police who brutalized him said, "this is Giuliani time" as he was being assaulted.

I do not remember whether that allegation was subsequently proven false or not. But if, on November 5th, we awake to "Obama time," anyone who today says that he or she "is Joe the Plumber" is going to find that he or she is Abner Louima.

buzz, excellent post!I'm borrowing this and emailing it. I'll give you credit, though.

what a stinking pile of manure from this womens mouth. give me a break.

re: #147 wolfie

The question is this. Is there something about Obama that would attract and excite young punks?

Yes?

Gotta' go sling some hash. bbl

Dems and the moonbat media can dig up dirt on Joe W. and there's a deafening silence from the Left.

But dare listen to terror related phone calls and the shrieking commences post hast.

(ptoowee)

Same goes for the Orlando reporter who dared ask Biden some tough questions re: Obama's Marxist leanings.

Fox News will be in trouble too.
Obama: "I chose my friends carefully"

I cant beleive the blind following... are these people really that sick with bush derangement syndrome?

my god ... they are letting the wolf in to the sheep pen...?

re: #148 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Me too i grabbed it and am sending it out now... thanks!

“Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look” at them

Well, that's certainly...disturbing. So someone can rifle through your state records simply because you appeared in public? Based on what, exactly?

Any lawyers out there care to weigh in on whether this constitutes reasonable search?

Also - aren't the people doing this, particularly whatever media flak made the other request, who spend vast amounts of time whining about terrorist lists and passenger delays caused by them? How does a groundless search of personal records sit with these folks, I wonder?

Overzealousness of all kinds isn't exactly rare. But this story needs to be watched. Such over-the-top abuse requires stern punishment of those involved.

re: #145 PISSED

Thank you so much for your assistance!

re: #98 MandyManners

You could have put a spew alert on that.
*wiping monitor*

re: #36 Joan Not of Arc

What greater way to silence people than rummage through private documents. Except Joe is not silent.
I hope this woman not only loses her job but she cannot work anywhere in the US, continental or otherwise. Let her be a custodian or some menial job. It would serve her right for violating someone's privacy for her own ends.

The Governor (a Democrat) has already said he sees nothing wrong with this.

I'm beginning to think this Obama guy is a fraud.

Heres another good one from searching socialist at Obama's blog.

This poster wants Team Obama to lash back at John Voight for calling Obama a socialist and claiming he was associated with some guy named Sol Linski . Obama as a Socialist - Please Read Obama Campaign
Sol Linski? Wow, his supporters sure are a super informed class of geniuses.

re: #98 MandyManners

I get an image of a bunch of cats scatching busily in their litter-box.

LOL! And cats can be very very dramatic about it sometimes too.

re: #161 Racer X

Welcome aboard... do you want a beer or a big shot of vodka?

imagine...
You've been telling jokes at work about president Barack Obama.
It's 3:00am. There's a heavy knock at your door...
...or your TV/Computer cable service goes out...
...or you keep getting audited...
...or your credit cards keep getting denied...

/Imagine there's no Obama...I wonder if you can...,sorry John

re: #86 El Lizardo mejicano

Who will be next? Tito the builder?

NO...that would be racist.

How are you El Lizardo?

re: #115 right_wing2

I weep for the future of America under the Obamessiah

Don't weep...VOLUNTEER! You can help beat the Obamessiah. And you are going to feel sooo much better!

Even aside from the fact that they looked up Joe the Plummer's information, pulling back about 2 ft and looking at the larger mosaic this woman just painted,

"We routinely pull up information of people ..." lets just stop here. WTF?

Exactly when was it been okay for random government folks to pull up people's personal information? Exactly when did that ever become okay regardless of whether or not he was on TV?

re: #165 PISSED

Welcome aboard... do you want a beer or a big shot of vodka?

You mean MORE?

LOL!

re: #23 nightlight

Finkbeiner is the mayor who tossed the marines out --

TOLEDO, OH -- Mayor Carty Finkbeiner on Friday ordered some 200 members of Company A, 1st Battalion, 24th Marines from Grand Rapids, Michigan, out of Toledo just before the unit was supposed to start a weekend of urban warfare training downtown.

Obviously not his real name.

re: #132 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You can always use Google's 'search this site only" feature, but I'm sure you're aware of that.

Assuming they are not blocking google indexing.

re: #79 ClosetConservative

Oh, and you know what else? California is about to replace their JROTC courses with an Ethnic Studies class. Are there any lizards pinned down in California needing artillery support?

You know what, the DoD should invest in JROTC more in states that want it. My old high school wasn't big enough for Army JROTC and it would have been welcomed with open arms. I'm sure there are millions more kids that would volunteer to take JROTC classes in high school.

re: #170 Racer X

I'm in the same boat... i cant beleive what i am seeing go on in this country

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This is a little glimpse into a very dark future, in which the power of the government is used against private citizens who dare to criticize the anointed One.

If Charles means to invoke Big Brother here, I think he's being a bit alarmist -- or perhaps I should say that he's barking up the wrong side of the right tree, or something like that.

Because it's most likely the case that Ms. Jones-Kelly was acting on her own behalf -- which makes her, perhaps, a freelance Big Brother wannabe, but not an actual tentacle of Big Brother. I might redact Charles' statement thusly:

This is a little glimpse into a very dark future, in which the power of the government is used ^ private citizens with government connections use their power against ^ other private citizens who dare to criticize the anointed One.

This is still very bad, and even just as dangerous (albeit dangerous in a different way) as it would be if Jones-Kelly were actually operating under the directive of the Obama campaign.

To put it another way, I'm outraged at what this woman did, but I'm also mindful that, as the Internet proverb goes, "there is no cabal."

And I'm not worried that Obama himself believes he's the Messiah, or that he has personal aspirations to be Big Brother. What does worry me is that millions of kool-aid drinkers who think he's the Messiah will take it upon themselves to abuse the little bit of power that they have -- as Ms. Jones-Kelly did -- and thereby push all of us in the direction of an Orwellian dystopia.

re: #91 MandyManners

Time to head to the range and work off a little frustration?

I sent two donations to Sarah Palin (McCain). My family voted early in a straight Republican ticket to try and counter the DNC takeover--no more Losertarian BS votes. I can't miracle Juan over the finish line. Now I read that Montana, Montana is up for grabs! WTH?

I HATE that we have to go through this shit every time stupid, lazy & scared people-who-live-in-America (I will vomit if I call them Americans) fall in love with another collectivist douchebag. They ALWAYS go after the guns once elected. This time they know he's an antigun Socialist. What kind of citizen votes for a leader that will deprive him of freedoms?

I was born into the height of the Cold War. This politician worship just blows my mind.

re: #151 ploome hineni

do you play guitar?

Yes.

re: #151 ploome hineni

do you play guitar?

Favorite is a modified 1977 blonde Gibson RG.

re: #155 PISSED

Me too i grabbed it and am sending it out now... thanks!

Thank buzz, not me!

Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight we often take a look at them.

Besides talking incoherently, Helen Jones-Kelly stinks of a police state mentality. So where are the civil libertarians and the ACLU?

Charles, I wish to take this opportunity to thank you for providing us a venue to express, vent and extrapolate on our impressions of the political landscape in today's political discourse. I believe this election cycle will change the future, if nothing else, one's impression of it in a way we cannot for see. We may be at the vanguard of a sea of change in how politics are covered in the future. I hope I'm right, but I could be wrong, just ask my ex.

re: #140 obageegee

I hate to break it to you folks, but the vast majority of the people who work at Local, State and at the Federal level that have computer access to your information are gulp...! Democrats! if you don't believe me stop in to any DMV office, Federal Bulding or any governmental branch and take a look. It's only going to get worse.

How on Earth can you tell by a quick look that they're Democrats?

Email to the reporter at the Dispatch:

Dear Sir:

Okay, it might make some sense for Ms.Jones-Kelly to check on someone who is thrust into the limelight, a routine look-see.

Is it routine then that she supplies whatever she finds to national news media?

You know the answer to that, I bet, and I bet it is "no". A "special exception" was made for Joe and you couldn't ask the question of why, or write it up, could you?

You are now an accessory to a smear. Hope you don't get on the wrong side of Obama and get done the way Joe did. Be a good fellow and do only as they tell you.

You wonder why newspapers are disappearing...not everyone is as dumb as you think they are.

Ok, anybody else a little worried about Russian and Cuban romance. Russia is going to provide Cuba with air defense?! It seems like we are going to let all the bad guys point their guns at us cause they know Obama isn't going to do anything about it. What is going on in this world?

re: #175 Throbert McGee

This is still very bad, and even just as dangerous (albeit dangerous in a different way) as it would be if Jones-Kelly were actually operating under the directive of the Obama campaign.

To put it another way, I'm outraged at what this woman did, but I'm also mindful that, as the Internet proverb goes, "there is no cabal."

And I'm not worried that Obama himself believes he's the Messiah, or that he has personal aspirations to be Big Brother. What does worry me is that millions of kool-aid drinkers who think he's the Messiah will take it upon themselves to abuse the little bit of power that they have -- as Ms. Jones-Kelly did -- and thereby push all of us in the direction of an Orwellian dystopia.

Millions of individuals, eventually comprising -- what?

Two words: parallel government.

Government agencies like child support do look up to determine if people who come into money (like lottery winners) own on their child support. However, that wasn't the issue with Joe the Plumber. Just being in the news isn't a justifiable reason to look at state data on him. There was no indication that there was any recoverable money for the state. Fire the b*tch.

re: #130 joncelli

Oh, that reminds me, there will also be a Department of Banning Things That Make You Happy (DBTTMYH) under the new Messiah admin. But it'll be for your own good, you racist crackers.

hahahahhahahahahahhaa

re: #185 ploome hineni

cool

:D

/you the one with the beard?

I'm a little too young to be in that video, lol.

#2 Ojoe:

I fear that we are seeing the fruits of 8 years of efforts by the left to paint Bush/Cheney as tyrannical warmongers. The general public is apathetic because they've been bashed over the head with lies and propaganda (and lots and lots of astroturf).

Obamatons are illegally using government computers to dig up dirt on Joe the Plumber? Doesn't Bush do that?

Obama's campaign blocks access to any media member that dares to ask tough questions? Didn't Cheney start a war for oil?

Obama has ties to militant Marxists? Didn't Bush plan 9-11?

Joe Biden is a cowardly assclown who has consistently voted against America's military? Isn't Guantanemo Bay a concentration camp?

It's not that the public doesn't believe Obama is an inexperienced tyrant wannabe. They just don't care. If enough people say that Bush is a tyrant and things aren't that bad, then why does it matter if other people think Obama is going to be a tyrant? After a certain point, the public grows weary of what they view as "politics." Unfortunately, this isn't "politics," it is a revolution being waged from the bottom up (in true Marxist fashion).

re: #176 Sol Roth

I HATE that we have to go through this shit every time stupid, lazy & scared people-who-live-in-America (I will vomit if I call them Americans) fall in love with another collectivist douchebag. They ALWAYS go after the guns once elected. This time they know he's an antigun Socialist. What kind of citizen votes for a leader that will deprive him of freedoms?

HERE'S A GOOD CARTOON OF OBAMA PALLING AROUND WITH KARL MARX.
.

re: #18 MandyManners

I know a lot about Lottery systems. Every Lottery system I know (and it's more than a few) checks big winners (those requiring a claim - usually $600 and above) against what's called a "deadbeat" file provided by the other State agencies (Dept of Revenue, Social Services, DMV, etc.)

The vast majority of the Lotteries in the US run exactly the same software which is provided by a company named GTech. Deadbeat checking is built-in.

Gtech has run the Ohio Lottery since 1985. But they recently lost the contract (see below for how they lost it)

Every Lottery I know can tell you stories about the poor shmuck who walked in thinking he hit the jackpot only to walk out with nothing.

The idea that the Social Services department scans the newspapers looking for names to run through their db is absurd.

I haven't look at the Ohio Lottery for a while so I did some quick research:

A new company recently won the upcoming Lottery contract (worth around $170M over 10 years to the winner - Ohio Lottery is a $2.2B/yr business). A new company just won, Intralot

Ohio Lottery long-time contractor complains about rival's winning bid

The Ohio Lottery Commission changed the bid requirements at the last minute to allow companies that operate smaller lotteries in the United States to participate. The request was made by one of Intralot's lawyers, David Leland, a friend of Gov. Ted Strickland.

So, they just put a $2.2B per year business in the hands of a company based in Greece, with virtually no large scale US Lottery experience... humm... Glad I wasn't part of that selection process becuase if the screw up during the conversion, which has happened, that's potential of hundreds of million in unrecoverable lost revenue for the State of Ohio. But Strickland knows the firm's lawyer so everything must be okay...

re: #169 shane

Even aside from the fact that they looked up Joe the Plummer's information, pulling back about 2 ft and looking at the larger mosaic this woman just painted,

"We routinely pull up information of people ..." lets just stop here. WTF?

Exactly when was it been okay for random government folks to pull up people's personal information? Exactly when did that ever become okay regardless of whether or not he was on TV?

Two Words: Homeland Security.
.

My father never had a Social Security number. When, as a teenager, I applied for one he said, "Son, you don't want to show up on the government's radar."

That ignorant old fart is looking smarter every day.

We ought to start a fund that will hire private investigators to crawl up the asses of the people, Like Helen Jones-Kelly, and make public every aspect of their lives.

If you would like to tell Ms. Jones-Kelley what you think of no probable cause, no judicial oversight, warrant-less abuse of state resources to spy on a private citizen, here is the link to the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services feedback page:

[Link: jfs.test.ohio.gov...]

re: #12 Killgore Trout

I think the Joe the Plumber thing is kind of a bummer. I wish there was more excitement about the Republican candidate than some plumber who once asked a question.

Maybe if the media wasn't admittedly hosing McCain (Politico) their might be some excitement about a patriot who is running against a traitor.

But, but, but, George W Bush listened to terrorists' phone calls. So who's the real bad guy, huh, huh?

/sarc

MJ Brutus,

You are correct. Many people in this country need to get their priorities straight. If a known terrorist calls someone in the US, and the NSA listens to the call, the liberals all go in a tizzy and talk about invasion of privacy. But an appointed administrator in Ohio can perform a background check on any private citizen she deems necessary, without a warrant, without probable cause, and without oversight and it is O.K. by our Governor, and probably most Democrats. What a mix up in priorities they have! And where is the ACLU? If the roles were reversed, they would be all over this like flies on you know what.

re: #201 heretic

Nope, Heretic, that doesn't matter to anyone. What matters is the gross privacy violation that has occurred here. It is classic projection on the part of those involved here, leftist moonbats. They are the ones that have been screaming bloody murder re: FISA yet they have been johnny-on-the-spot to use the exact same practices against their enemy: the average ordinary American citizen. It's quite mind-boggling.

If any of us had done a thing like this we would have found ourselves fired and either arrested or facing indictment.

Being a king, Obama means never having to accept responsibility for anything. He and his loyal subjects are above mere mortal laws.

/need I say it?

This is normal operating procedure for libs. Remember all the FBI files on repubs the Clintons had in the whitehouse?

Five bucks says if Obama wins Jones-Kelley's got a job in DOJ or HHS or somewhere.

re: #196 jopa416

We ought to start a fund that will hire private investigators to crawl up the asses of the people, Like Helen Jones-Kelly, and make public every aspect of their lives.

That would be legal.

This is an assault on free speech. By blank headed government officials who can't tell that their efforts are bad. This is indeed the future if Sen Obama is given power.

The average Joe will then know that to acquire any type of public note is then to have your life revealed to the media by the government for political purposes. Maybe the Obama campaign and his supporters can't understand this. These government officials need to be slapped very hard even if they thought they had the appropriate decision making ability.

The people of more government want this to happen more often.

#202 "Nope, Heretic, that doesn't matter to anyone."

It should matter. To me it's just one more instance of the same sort of pulling-together-regardless-of-the-law as we saw in the run-away OJ Simpson jury. When you have over 95% of American blacks pledging to vote for a Marxist determined to give America to our enemies just because he is black, then that's a problem. Or it should be, any way.

This is from Opensecrets.org

Contributor Occupation Date Amount Recipient
Jones-Kelley, Helen
Dayton,OH 45415 State of Ohio 7/31/08 $2,300 Obama, Barack (D)
Jones-Kelley, Helen
Dayton,OH 45415 State of Ohio 7/31/08 $200 Obama, Barack (D)

Jones-Kelly is a sterling example of the bureaucratic arrogance amorality, criminality, and viciousness that is destroying American freedom.
The bureauweenies unions are the biggest single source of democrat party campaign contributions and they are overwhelmingly in the tank for the corruptocrats of the democrats along with their information ministry operatives who style themselves as journalists.
Lenin, Stalin, Pot, Mao, and Hitler all depended on bureauweenies to torture, intimidate, murder and release the poison gas at the death camps, jobs which the power mad apparatchiks willing and eagerly executed. Jones-Kelly is merely honing her skills for Obama's Brave New World and has likely been doing so for years unchallenged.

WOW - Director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services - must be a great job to have 5000 spare cash to donate. Can anyone figure out how much she makes? Thanks

Apparently she makes - $141980 - as of 07. What are the odds she gets a federal appointment?