horse shit.

Then why the hell did the confidential source give them the video in the first place?

“The Times keeps its promises to sources.”

To quote the great Penn and Teller: Bullshit!

“The Times keeps its promises to sources.”

But to hell with keeping our sacred duty to the American people.

Dear Mr. or Ms. Confidential Source,

What's your price?

someone with deep pockets needs to offer a reward for this video asap. that was Newt's recommendation as well. I bet it appears if $$$ is on the line.

Can we get a subpeona? Justice Department --somebody?

THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW.

righhhhhhht.

I'm trying to wrangle an invitation to the going away party for all the employees that are getting laid off. I've got a few choice words to send them on their way to the unemployment office.

re: #6 captwfcall

someone with deep pockets needs to offer a reward for this video asap. that was Newt's recommendation as well. I bet it appears if $$$ is on the line.

Rush?

Lunch, then college. BBL.

Well, they are getting closer to the truth:
"He said he would hurt is if we released it!"
The who is the real question...

OK, was going to post this yesterday. It's probably too late as it is...

I didn't think the minons at LA Times would consider releasing the video. As I said before I think that the only hope would be to contact the publishers and chief executive of the LA Time, Eddy W. Hartenstein.

Now, I don't have his email or business phone contact information. I only have an address which I crossed referenced with a previous FEC filing. It's probably too late for any mail to make an impact but it might be worth a shot.

Since we can't post addresses here I can only direct you to whitepages.com. Once at the whitepages.com site look for the only "Eddy W. Hartenstein" shown in the listing in Thousand Oaks, CA.

The LA TImes is run by hypocrites.

That tape must really be damning.

What could possibly be so foul and unforgivable that they would go to such great lengths to hid it from the voting public?

re: #2 DesertSage

Then why the hell did the confidential source give them the video in the first place?

Heh.
Er......uh,uh,uh.....
Nope. Can't think of an answer to that one.

Semi-related:

Don't Dance on the Times' Grave

Recent circulation numbers showing continued, substantial declines of traditional newspapers give me an excuse to make a point I have wanted to make for some time.

I am a frequent critic of newspapers. I think they have lost focus on the hard-hitting investigative journalism which used to be their highest and best calling, instead considering reiteration of an activist's press release sufficient to check the journalism box on some particular issue. When investigative reporting does occur, it almost always is focused to support the dominant or politically correct outcome, rather than to really challenge conventional wisdom. Media coverage of any technical issue involving science or statistics or economics is often awful, in large part because journalism is too often the default educational path of folks who want to avoid numbers. Any time I have been on the inside of some issue receiving coverage, I have generally been astounded by how little the print descriptions matched reality. Now that I am interviewed more as a source for articles, I never think my views are well-quoted (though that may be my fault for not talking in sound bites). And, like many, I get irritated that the media's arrogance and self-referential reporting seems to increase in direct proportion to their drop in circulation.

All that being said, the world without healthy newspapers is a bad thing.

First, we bloggers can blather on all day about being the new media, but with the exception of a few folks like Radley Balko, we're all editorial writers, not reporters (I consider my role at Climate-Skeptic.com to be more like journalism, but only because there is such a glaring hole on that topic in traditional media). I couldn't do what I do here, at least on this particular blog, without the New York Times and the Washington Post. I'm a remora feeding on their scraps. I can't bring down the big fish by myself, I can only feed on the bits they miss.

Second, and perhaps more important in this world of proposed reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine, print media is the mode of speech best protected by the First Ammendment. This isn't the way it should be -- all speech should be equal -- but in reality goofy regulatory regimes for radio, TV, and even the Internet all offer the government leverage points for speech control they don't have with the print media. It's why half the dystopic sci fi novels out there have a world dominated by TV -- because that is where government has the most control of speech.

So here's hoping you guys at the NY Times get your act together.

This brings up an interesting question. If 0bama becomes president, and reinstates the fairness doctrine, how will all these pro-dem papers deal with it? Every time they praise 0bama, they have to know that there will be a concerted effort to deman equal time.

Hey, remember the movie "SWAT"? How's this for an idea?
5 million dollars to whatever LA times employee steals it from the building?
I'd chip in $100!

re: #7 ggt

Can we get a subpeona? Justice Department --somebody?

THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW.

Problem with that is, high level Justice Department reps have donated to the Obama campaign.

re: #6 captwfcall

someone with deep pockets needs to offer a reward for this video asap. that was Newt's recommendation as well. I bet it appears if $$$ is on the line.

10K and the times could double their revenues

Tomorrow's excuse: we cannot release this tape due to national security concerns. Yeah, yeah.... that's the ticket! National security... because we're, uh... patriotic!

"We must protect The Messiah at all costs." - The Mainstream Media

re: #21 William

"We must protect The Messiah at all costs." - The Mainstream Media

Their very souls depend on him.

I wonder if there's other people on that video that don't want to be seen doing whatever they are doing, or just being there.

What we have in LA stays in LA.

This smells to high heaven.

re: #7 ggt

Can we get a subpeona? Justice Department --somebody?

THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW.

No, the Justice Department can only issue a subpoena if they have good reason to suspect the footage contained evidence relevant to a criminal investigation. Bottom line, if the LA Time refuses to release the tape, there is nothing short of an all out assault on their building that can make them give it up. And I am not prepared to recommend that course of action. We're not going to see that tape. We should keep pounding on them on this issue, but we should not expect to see the tape.

I don't believe it either.

If it were true, why wouldn't the LA Times use such a line of defense immediately?

Why should the Times wait all this time and lamely submit to several days of an avalanche of irate demands before coming to the conclusion that this was what they were going to use to cover themselves?

Is this the most religious election that any of us can recall or what?

re: #24 non-lib Nina

Stays, lives and dies in L.A.

/actually eats lunch nao

//courtesy of your resident New Waver.

If you wrote a movie script along the lines this election has taken, most producers would tell you it was too over the top.

/You are traveling through another dimension.........

Is this the video that kills viewers in seven days or something?!?!

After you watch it, David Axelrod calls you during dinner and breathes heavily into the phone about socialized medicine.

Then seven days later your TV comes on and Michelle Obama pops out and.... you get the idea.

re: #24 non-lib Nina

What we have in LA stays in LA.

Hey, there's no need to steal our Vegas motto and use it to make someplace look bad. Besides, you're talking about LA here. They don't need any help looking bad!

re: #28 Syrah

It's the first time a messiah has run.

/

So, let's see if I understand this situation....I've got a possibly explosive videotape of the man who could be the next President of the United States of America, and feel that the media needs to know about this, so I give it to the L.A Slimes....and tell them NOT to release it? Bull-Fucking-Shit.

re: #16 gmsc

Semi-related:

Don't Dance on the Times' Grave

This brings up an interesting question. If 0bama becomes president, and reinstates the fairness doctrine, how will all these pro-dem papers deal with it? Every time they praise 0bama, they have to know that there will be a concerted effort to deman equal time.

Actually, no. The Fairness Doctrine never applied to print media, only broadcast media. The NYT would not be affected by it.

If true, this statement could actually work in our favor. Not nearly as good as having the video, but being able to say that the Times has video that is so damning that they had to promise a secret source not to let anyone see it...

Publicize that, let us publicly speculate on what MUST be on that video that is so bad that the times was sworn to secrecy, and let people's imagination run with it. If they want to put a stop for this let them get "permission" from their "source."

re: #31 SWPaul

It might self-destruct --smoke and everything--if it is viewed one too many times.

//

Taking the LA Times at face value, then what does this confidential source have to hide?

re: #32 gmsc

hahahaha! Funny Sh*t.

re: #13 Gus 802

OK, was going to post this yesterday. It's probably too late as it is...

I didn't think the minons at LA Times would consider releasing the video. As I said before I think that the only hope would be to contact the publishers and chief executive of the LA Time, Eddy W. Hartenstein.

Now, I don't have his email or business phone contact information. I only have an address which I crossed referenced with a previous FEC filing. It's probably too late for any mail to make an impact but it might be worth a shot.

Since we can't post addresses here I can only direct you to whitepages.com. Once at the whitepages.com site look for the only "Eddy W. Hartenstein" shown in the listing in Thousand Oaks, CA.

Don't think that's gonna work. The LA Times is owned by the Chicago Tribune and they've recently endorsed Obama.

How come they didn't come out with this excuse right off the bat?

Somehow, I think if it were a tape of McCain at a KKK rally that was given to the LAT under a promise of confidentiality, the LAT would find a way to release the tape. Hell, they'd probably even write an editorial patting themselves on the back for their "brave" decision to put the national interest above a silly promise.

But this is all besides the point. There was no promise.

re: #40 Hobbes

Yeah, I know. Hartenstein seems to be a Republican however and he has been calling in the shots lately.

re: #36 dentate

You are absolutely correct.

Kind of like Kerry's Military Paperowork.

They put all their little brains together and came up with that excuse? After all this time? Trying to make themselves look ethical and noble?

Nice try...but that's pathetic and transparent.

"Here's the video tape, Mr Newsman. Don't share it."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

So I LIED.......

just like a demo-commie... come on ya trolling trolls....lets play mumbly-peg with sharp steel and sandals.....toes are for the playin if yer comrades have not lifted them already.......post ya, post ya dogs... gloves off til the voting is done!

This is a replay of the Annenberg records fiasco.

re: #31 SWPaul

Is this the video that kills viewers in seven days or something?!?!

You mean like this?

“The Times keeps its promises to sources.”

The Times cozies up to antisemites and terrorists.

re: #40 Hobbes

we cancelled our subscription to the Tribune.

Thursday's excuse: Did we say national security? We meant pending federal investigation. It would be harmful to the... uh... grand jury.

^{Wait! You can't say that- it makes it sound more damning.}

Oh! Uh- we mean, uh... we can't release it because it's... uh.... sealed! Yeah- sealed record due to the death of.... someone. And it's locked up in probate. yeah- probate- that's the ticket.

re: #31 SWPaul

Is this the video that kills viewers in seven days or something?!?!

After you watch it, David Axelrod calls you during dinner and breathes heavily into the phone about socialized medicine.

Then seven days later your TV comes on and Michelle Obama pops out and.... you get the idea.

Michelle appears on the screen and her image is burned into your retinas.

If this thing is all that damning, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be its keeper. Hope whoever has it has their life insurance paid up.

odd how we know more about McCain's time in Vietnamese prisons than BO's life before public office

This excuse is pure bullshit.

Their "source" gave them the video back in April. Obama had not yet secured the nomination. Why request they "keep it confidential"? And why do a story on the event?

Bullshit.

“The Los Angeles Times did not publish the videotape because it was provided to us by a confidential source who did so on the condition that we not release it,” said the newspaper’s editor, Russ Stanton. “The Times keeps its promises to sources.”

Then WHY, among other things like why would the video have been given to them in the first place, did they publish the fact they had "obtained" it?

“The Los Angeles Times did not publish the videotape because it was provided to us by a confidential source who did so on the condition that we not release it,”

"Times, Editorial Department, may I help you?"

"Hi, I'm calling from your lobby. Look, I've got this video tape I've been walking around with all freakin' day, and it is starting to cramp my style. I keep forgetting to pick it up and I've damn near walked off and left it twice already. Can I leave it with you guys?"

"Sure, bring it own up, we're on the 8th floor."

"Thanks for helping a guy out! Hey, don't let nobody see it, ok? It's just some stuff I filmed at a party, not really interesting. And don't tell anyone I gave it to you."

"No problem."

"I'll pick it up in a few weeks, I gotta go visit my momma in Compton."

O's half hour propaganda commercial worries me a lot. I don't have a tv - guess that will be a thread soon. This guy is just so slimy. Why oh why are people so enamored with this charlatan?

re: #55 Yankee Division Son

Good point.

There's something nefarious on that tape. There just has to be.

re: #42 Gus 802

Yeah, I know. Hartenstein seems to be a Republican however and he has been calling in the shots lately.

Can't hurt to try. Hope it works.

Like Obama will keep HIS promises...

re: #53 spidly

odd how we know more about McCain's time in Vietnamese prisons than BO's life before public office

McCain has no reason to hide details of his life. There's nothing damning in his record. The same likely cannot be said of Obama.

re: #57 Teacake!

I don't have a tv - guess that will be a thread soon.

In the next LGF poll, what brand of TV should Teacake buy?

He's probably dressed in his muslim garb.

re: #55 Yankee Division Son

This is the October surprise. They're going to release it and there'll be nothing even remotely incriminating on it - home video of someone's birthday party.

re: #6 captwfcall

someone with deep pockets needs to offer a reward for this video asap. that was Newt's recommendation as well. I bet it appears if $$$ is on the line.

Well...the pockets aren't that deep, but the reward from Ace isn't exactly insignificant:
Reward for Tape

Ironic that those who make hay of the "it's the cover-up, not the scandal" meme would fall on their own sword.

re: #59 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

There's something nefarious on that tape. There just has to be.

There is also a possibility that there is nothing incriminating on the tape, and all this hoopla is a diversion.

But I doubt it.

gmsc - LOL (one that costs under $150 with dvd player. )

Of course they're telling the truth. But there's no time frame here. The condition that it not be released was probably added long after tape was made available (by the Clinton campaign?). The condition may have been added yesterday. Had it been in place earlier, the LAT would have said so.

re: #55 Yankee Division Son

Then WHY, among other things like why would the video have been given to them in the first place, did they publish the fact they had "obtained" it?

Stop using your wicked black magic logic!

I'm with Charles. This stinks to high heaven. Why would someone give the only copy of this to the LAT. Then when they did why did they tell them to not show it. Something doesn't add up here.Could this be a trap? Maybe it is meant to have the McCain campaign and Republicans get all worked up, they bow to pressure and release it and it is a big nothing.

re: #55 Yankee Division Son

Then WHY, among other things like why would the video have been given to them in the first place, did they publish the fact they had "obtained" it?

I'm wondering how a dinner party with an apparent large amount of people is something that requires an undisclosed source to report about it. it isn't like this was some sort of top secret meeting, right? just the fact that they source wants the video to remain secret is enough to let people know that something extremely juicy occurred. i'm dying to see this video.

We need to keep the pressure on the LAT. If nothing else, their refusal looks damned suspicious. Stinks.

re: #47 gmsc

Lol. Yeah, I can see that.

Crazy going ons in our nation these days. Luckily Gallup has Obama up only 2 points. We will see, brothers and sisters.

re: #50 Sharmuta

Thursday's excuse: Did we say national security? We meant pending federal investigation. It would be harmful to the... uh... grand jury.

^{Wait! You can't say that- it makes it sound more damning.}

Oh! Uh- we mean, uh... we can't release it because it's... uh.... sealed! Yeah- sealed record due to the death of.... someone. And it's locked up in probate. yeah- probate- that's the ticket.

Layoffs.

Red ink.

Subscription woes.

And only a few more days left to totally and completely betray all of that "the publics right to know" crap that claim to be guided by.

What utter hypocrites they have exposed themselves to be.

re: #60 Hobbes

Here's the latest I read about him.

He's been telling the LA Times staff that sharing any information with LA Observed is treasonous. That should say something about Eddy Hartenstein.

The price of being exempted from the Fairness doctrine is now know.

Cover The Marxist One's ass.

What a crock! The person who gave them the tape doesn't want it to see the light of day. So he gave it to a major news organization. So that news organization could describe it for the edification of us lowly peons.

Yeah, sure. This doesn't even pass the idiot test. I'd suggest the LAT go back to the drawing board and try another excuse.

re: #49 ggt

we cancelled our subscription to the Tribune.

We would too, but we need a paper that's big enough to put under the cats' litter boxes.

re: #55 Yankee Division Son

Then WHY, among other things like why would the video have been given to them in the first place, did they publish the fact they had "obtained" it?

Great point. The April article seemed to challenge anyone who questioned its assertions by asserting that the video was there to prove the assertions, meaning it could be used to do so. Why back up your statements by claiming you can prove it with video if you are unable or unwilling to do so? Makes no sense. That video must show something REALLY bad.

re: #57 Teacake!

O's half hour propaganda commercial worries me a lot. I don't have a tv - guess that will be a thread soon. This guy is just so slimy. Why oh why are people so enamored with this charlatan?

wonder if they bought all the add time around his infomercial...
does Obama2008 really work better than the other leading brands, and do we get a set of steak knives with every purchase?

re: #66 shibumi

Well...the pockets aren't that deep, but the reward from Ace isn't exactly insignificant:
Reward for Tape

Watch that reward grow to a million by tomorrow. Where is the National Enquirer? TMZ?

I want to see the tape.

Stop using your wicked blacksocialist magic logic!

There, fixed that for 'ya.

re: #72 nigella

You know, you might have a point on that.

probably lots of snooty antisemitic comments at the dinner table.

Huh? Makes no sense.

Well, L.A. Times, how's about a transcript then?

re: #64 Teacake!

He's probably dressed in his muslim garb.

undercover brother

re: #57 Teacake!

O's half hour propaganda commercial worries me a lot. I don't have a tv - guess that will be a thread soon. This guy is just so slimy. Why oh why are people so enamored with this charlatan?

They're irritated with Bush and want to throw some bums out over the economy. Convincing people that the cure is worse than the disease is often a hard sell. Many of the people I know simply will not listen. I'm not giving up though. The stuff that's been posted here this week may be enough to turn a couple of heads and I know who I'm going to try to turn. Hopefully, I can bring a few votes on board for McCain.

re: #80 Hobbes

We would too, but we need a paper that's big enough to put under the cats' litter boxes.

My cat got constipation when I used the Seattle papers.

A 5th explanation can't be far behind.

re: #62 Dark_Falcon

McCain has no reason to hide details of his life. There's nothing damning in his record. The same likely cannot be said of Obama.

i would not be surprised if the MSM are working to try and find out the actual US enemies that McCain may have killed during his time in the military so they can interview their family members. they've shown they are capable of stooping to that level.

Oops, wrong link.

Here's the right one for the LA Times/LA Observed/Treason stories.

re: #81 dentate

That video must show something REALLY bad.

Obama doing karaoke?

re: #76 Syrah

Layoffs.

Red ink.

Subscription woes.

And only a few more days left to totally and completely betray all of that "the publics right to know" crap that claim to be guided by.

What utter hypocrites they have exposed themselves to be.

They make me sick. Keep the heat on 'em, Charles!

Most pressing question at today's LA TIMES editorial meeting:

Is Nixon's secretary still available for erasing 18 minutes of the worst part of the tape?

This has been a campaign of constant lies. Who has been the source?

This is the lamest of the lame excuses. This is nothing but feigning legal right to protect it's sources from reprisal. Journalists don't protect sources unless it is in their best interest to do so. They've been hushed. Plain and simple.
The source DOES NOT even need to be released. Just the tape!

re: #85 non-lib Nina

I dunno. Seems too convoluted a scheme.

re: #80 Hobbes

LOL

spidly - lol - probably lots of trendy green products. Cars that run on granola and the such.

Heh... I can't remember anything off-hand, but surely the LAT published something in the recent past that they were told not to by the FBI/CIA/Government etc... I know the NYT does that all the time...

Anyone remember anything?

re: #42 Gus 802

FYI zabasearch.com is your friend.

Obama doing karaoke?

Solidarity Forever?
Look for the Union Label?
Afternoon Delight?

In April it was probably given to the LAT from the Clinton campaign. Somehow when Hillary lost they decided to sit on it for the good of the party.Hillary must have decided not to use it even though it might have helped her campaign. Really a strange story.

re: #72 nigella

Maybe it is meant to have the McCain campaign and Republicans get all worked up, they bow to pressure and release it and it is a big nothing.

The only thing that makes me think it is not a scam is the fact that McCain's numbers keep rising whenever there are questions into Obama's character. They would have to release the tape by Friday in order to quell that.

re: #94 Killer Tomato

OMG ! :O

re: #31 SWPaul

Is this the video that kills viewers in seven days or something?!?!

After you watch it, David Axelrod calls you during dinner and breathes heavily into the phone about socialized medicine.

Then seven days later your TV comes on and Michelle Obama pops out and.... you get the idea.

Let me guess- the only way you can keep from being killed by Michelle is to sign up 100 fraudulent Democratic voters through Acorn.

So this is what was spoken of about a month ago, when sources were saying that "a major news organization has a damaging piece to Obama but they won't release it". I thought Politico had that piece.....

If the LA Times will not release this tape, then they doom themselves as a news organization. They will be no better than the supermarket tabloids. But with more weight per issue.

RIP, LA Times.

re: #94 Killer Tomato

Obama doing karaoke?

Let's not hope this comes down to a Karaoke contest between Obama and McCain. Then, all is lost. Although, Biden and Palin might sing a good duet.

re: #102 efuseakay

troop movements and locations? Valarie Plame?

re: #99 wolfie

Coming from a scheming bunch. I don't trust the left not one little bit. Not now, not ever. Gotta watch your back and keep your eyes open. Anything can happen.
They want to win at all costs and will do ANYthing.

THe thing that scares me the most about this guy is we have seen so many dangerous red flags about him, that I can't even really imagine how scary things would be if he godforbid won. I'm a Jewish gal, but anti-Christ certainly comes to mind for me.

re: #105 nigella

In April it was probably given to the LAT from the Clinton campaign. Somehow when Hillary lost they decided to sit on it for the good of the party.Hillary must have decided not to use it even though it might have helped her campaign. Really a strange story.

Oh shit!

The trail goes back to Hillary! That actually makes sense. We need the PUMAS to get involved.

re: #96 profitsbeard

Most pressing question at today's LA TIMES editorial meeting:

Is Nixon's secretary still available for erasing 18 minutes of the worst part of the tape?

Rose Mary Woods, she passed away a few years ago.

re: #112 non-lib Nina

Oh, I don't doubt their sleaziness!

Fifth excuse: We want to be the originators of the November Surprise.

/dreaming

re: #101 Teacake!

spidly - lol - probably lots of trendy green products. Cars that run on granola and the such.

it folds up and stores under the bed! one simple twist and it changes from black nationalist to moderate right winger. another twist and one simple attachment and it's a marxist bomb thrower! operates in two modes - budget hawk and budget buster!

re: #14 Syrah

The LA TImes is run by hypocrites.

That tape must really be damning.

What could possibly be so foul and unforgivable that they would go to such great lengths to hid it from the voting public?

That's the question. And if it makes us wonder that, it will make the general public wonder that too - so I think McCain should keep hammering it, regardless of their refusal to be forthcoming.

I don't imagine there is any legal avenue that can be used to pursue this, but other than that, all we can do is raise the question in people's minds: What does that tape show about Barack Obama?

re: #103 Edouard

Thanks. Still can't find an email address. Would really have to be a business email.

re: #106 Racer X

The democrats are counting on early votes to win. They think the later any damaging information is released, the better for them.

re: #110 dentate

Let's not hope this comes down to a Karaoke contest between Obama and McCain. Then, all is lost. Although, Biden and Palin might sing a good duet.

Not if the they sing the theme to The Villages. I have heard Biden singing that one. Its beyond awful. Biden would be better of lip-syncing something sung by Neal Kinnock.

re: #113 Teacake!

Golem

re: #16 gmsc

Semi-related:

Don't Dance on the Times' Grave

This brings up an interesting question. If 0bama becomes president, and reinstates the fairness doctrine, how will all these pro-dem papers deal with it? Every time they praise 0bama, they have to know that there will be a concerted effort to deman equal time.

The Fairness Doctrine only applies to broadcast media. The only constitutional argument for it (a bogus one IMO) is that the gov't the the right to regulate the public airways. This is the wedge they use to regulate speech on TV and radio.

So according to the supreme court:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

DOES NOT mean the gov't can't censor radio, but

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

DOES mean abortion must be legal.

Makes perfect sense. (sarc)

I think the framers would have had a different idea.

Speaking of Pumas, I checked out a couple of their web sites thanks to Sharmuta, and they are pissed. They truly despise Obama and want him defeated. They hate the treatment of Sarah also. I'm not sure how many of them there are, but they really want Obama defeated. A better ally you couldn't have.

re: #123 ggt

Golem

What has it gots in its pocketsese my precious!

re: #126 Syrah

No, that's Gollum. The Golem was actually a good guy.

There's something nefarious on that tape. There just has to be.re: #68 Racer X

There is also a possibility that there is nothing incriminating on the tape, and all this hoopla is a diversion.

But I doubt it.

No way Racer. If so, why not release it?

One way to get the L.A. Slimes to release the tape for sure:

Claim the tape has video footage of Obama, Ayers, and Dohrn yucking it up and laughing while mocking America.

All we need is one disgruntled ex-Times employee to say he saw the tape and thats what it shows. The Times will have to show the tape then.

re: #77 Gus 802

Here's the latest I read about him.

He's been telling the LA Times staff that sharing any information with LA Observed is treasonous. That should say something about Eddy Hartenstein.

Thanks for the link. The thing that troubles me is that he's got to be aware of
the situation considering all the publicity. And if he means what he says about not letting Zell meddle, then I would think he'd find the tape and release it.

Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Obama: "I did not have private relations with those men."

re: #126 Syrah

What has it gots in its pocketsese my precious!

Are HOPE and CHANGE inscribed on his THE ONE ring?

re: #125 nigella

Speaking of Pumas, I checked out a couple of their web sites thanks to Sharmuta, and they are pissed. They truly despise Obama and want him defeated. They hate the treatment of Sarah also. I'm not sure how many of them there are, but they really want Obama defeated. A better ally you couldn't have.

Absolutely. The PUMAs rock, and no matter how bleak things have looked on some days, they have been the original smack-you-in-the-face and get-to-WORK crowd. When I have enough of the pessimism I get on other sites (not LGF - other conservative ones), I look in on the PUMAs.

Too bad there isn't the last moment karmic happening like in the movie The Dead Zone when Martin Sheen shows his true colors. Sigh....

re: #125 nigella

Speaking of Pumas, I checked out a couple of their web sites thanks to Sharmuta, and they are pissed. They truly despise Obama and want him defeated. They hate the treatment of Sarah also. I'm not sure how many of them there are, but they really want Obama defeated. A better ally you couldn't have.

I have been lurking there occasionally also, and they are fired up. They dislike BHO more than I do and that is saying alot. I am glad we are on the right side of them.

re: #131 solomonpanting

Clinton: "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"

Obama: "I did not have private relations with those men."

"I did not have spiritual relations with that pastor"

I wonder if they'd respect their source the same way if the info was dirt on McCain.

re: #134 Teacake!

Too bad there isn't the last moment karmic happening like in the movie The Dead Zone when Martin Sheen shows his true colors. Sigh....

we've seen that already. look at the miles of corpses behind the Obama bus

re: #25 Charles

This smells to high heaven.

I said before, the media is no longer biased. It is now corrupt.

re: #115 SteveC

Rose Mary Woods, she passed away a few years ago.

That can't be right. I heard she now lived in Nevada, and was registered to vote as a Demo . . . oh, never mind.

Obama doing the conga with Bernardine Dohrn?

Michelle picking her nose with a fork?

Obama saying something in his speech about his own life at Columbia and all the pals he made there?

re: #125 nigella

Speaking of Pumas, I checked out a couple of their web sites thanks to Sharmuta, and they are pissed. They truly despise Obama and want him defeated. They hate the treatment of Sarah also. I'm not sure how many of them there are, but they really want Obama defeated. A better ally you couldn't have.

Part of a McCain landslide? Hmmmmmm...

Academic institutions are willing to risk their reputations^* for the sake of the One. Newspapers are willing to risk their reputations^* for the sake of the One. Individuals in the media are willing to risk their reputations^* for the sake of the One.

This messiah thing is really really starting to get scary.

(*)Such as they are

re: #66 shibumi

Well...the pockets aren't that deep, but the reward from Ace isn't exactly insignificant:
Reward for Tape

thanks. they are at 25k right now. they need Hannity to kick in, I bet he would do it in a heartbeat. and they've got to get this info out to LA Times employees. since most of them are getting canned they should be more receptive to making a few extra bucks. that's assuming this video wasn't already destroyed.

re: #129 Racer X

One way to get the L.A. Slimes to release the tape for sure:

Claim the tape has video footage of Obama, Ayers, and Dohrn yucking it up and laughing while mocking America.

All we need is one disgruntled ex-Times employee to say he saw the tape and thats what it shows. The Times will have to show the tape then.

Well, I think you have a point, though it could play out differently. We've all heard what's on it by now (Hillbuzz has a good summary of this) - so maybe we have to spell out what that is, and dare them to disprove it.

re: #103 Edouard

THAT'S some scary sh!t!

The only good thing about this situation is that it is getting covered on Fox and all the Conservative radio shows. McCain has also made reference to it. Just keep the heat up.

re: #142 mattm

Part of a McCain landslide? Hmmmmmm...

It looks very interesting!

re: #144 captwfcall

thanks. they are at 25k right now. they need Hannity to kick in, I bet he would do it in a heartbeat. and they've got to get this info out to LA Times employees. since most of them are getting canned they should be more receptive to making a few extra bucks. that's assuming this video wasn't already destroyed.

Maybe if Charles claims to put up $100,000, Hannity will make that claim as his own.

It would be nice if this was leaked say Thursday or Sunday night. Right before the election before The One, his holiness, can respond. Assuming the MSM reports it.

re: #139 faraway

The media is the enemy.
Their active assistance is the cause of this messianic mess.

re: #115 SteveC

Rose Mary Woods, she passed away a few years ago.

Dang! Now they're screwed!

re: #128 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No way Racer. If so, why not release it?

The Times will invite an "independent, impartial observer" to view the tape, on the condition that the tape be held in total confidentiality. And a few hours later he/she will inform us the tape is perfectly harmless.

Pretty boring, actually.

Almost put me to sleep.

Trust me, I'm impartial.

Uninterested, even.

No, I can't describe the contents of the tape to you, that would violate my agreement with the Times.

And THAT, will be that. So it is written, so shall it be done!

re: #132 Dark_Falcon

Are HOPE and CHANGE inscribed on his THE ONE ring?

One 0bama to rule them all, one 0bama to bind then, one 0bama to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
In the land of Chicago where all politicians lie.

thanks for the laughs tonight, I know I need that. Just a few more days before we know if there will be a few more months to really know for sure.

By the way, I'll check this tomorrow because I have to go to bed - who exactly are the electoral college? Are they individuals who are hand-picked? Can they just select who they want regardless of the popular vote?

Nite all!

re: #119 capitalist piglet

That's the question. And if it makes us wonder that, it will make the general public wonder that too - so I think McCain should keep hammering it, regardless of their refusal to be forthcoming.

I don't imagine there is any legal avenue that can be used to pursue this, but other than that, all we can do is raise the question in people's minds: What does that tape show about Barack Obama?

You know, I think you have something there. Instead of actually demanding the release of the tape, it might be more effective to constantly speculate on the contents of the tape. For example, perhaps the tape is not being released because in it, Obama denies the Holocaust. Or because he recites the call to prayer in Arabic. Or because he admits to being a member of the Communist Party.

The only downside to this is that if the tape is released, it might be nothing quite as horrible as what is being speculated.

Or... the whole tape thing might be a ruse to distract us from something else entirely. A red herring so to speak.

A little bit from Hillbuzz:

All eyes are on the LA Times right now — so if the tape sits in GOP hands, it’s far better for the Times to be pressured to release it on its own, and to do so at a time when the narrative shouldn’t be about Obama’s big informercial, but instead about Obama sitting at dinner with terrorists, laughing and having a grand old time while speaker after speaker calls for the destruction of Israel and the death of all Israelis.

Because that’s what we’ve heard went on at this dinner.

I don't think the Times has thought this through.

What if McCain wins anyway?

And the tape finally comes out and it is REALLY bad for Obama?

And the McCain administration now controls whether the Times parent news company has access to the White House and presidential staff.

Shut. Out.

The Zero asking for his followers to take the day off on Tuesday is very interesting. It forbodes what is coming, Republicans work and obamabots f*ck off and take the R's money.

RELEASE the FRICKIN' tape A$$WIPES!

re: #149 gmsc

Maybe if Charles claims to put up $100,000, Hannity will make that claim as his own.

LOL!

re: #109 Intrepid

So this is what was spoken of about a month ago, when sources were saying that "a major news organization has a damaging piece to Obama but they won't release it". I thought Politico had that piece.....

If the LA Times will not release this tape, then they doom themselves as a news organization. They will be no better than the supermarket tabloids. But with more weight per issue.

RIP ESAD, LA Times.

Fixed.

re: #130 Hobbes

Thanks for the link. The thing that troubles me is that he's got to be aware of
the situation considering all the publicity. And if he means what he says about not letting Zell meddle, then I would think he'd find the tape and release it.

He should know by now considering that McCain brought this up today. This would all boil down to his own feelings regarding this campaign. I think it could create some interest in an otherwise dull newspaper who's only recent claim to fame is their slow demise and frequent layoffs. Basically the LA Times is unwilling to take any risks -- like most modern day papers.

Rose Mary Woods, she passed away a few years ago.

Dang! Now they're screwed!

Who? The dems? They've been getting help from the dead for years!

(no disrespect for Rose Mary Woods intended)

Hear me Lizard Army!

Send off the Zombie's report to everone you know and every media outlet that you can think off. Buzz it up. flood the "social Networks" with it. If Drudge, Limbaugh, Beck etc. pick it up, the Lizard Army will be able to claim another mighty blow for freedom.

These last few days are our hour.

We haven't much time left.

We must stand now. We must fight now.

re: #149 gmsc

Maybe if Charles claims to put up $100,000, Hannity will make that claim as his own.

haha!

re: #140 gmsc

That can't be right. I heard she now lived in Nevada, and was registered to vote as a Demo . . . oh, never mind.

Our own Zombie is proof that the Undead walk the earth. But ours goes around doing good!

Everybody who believes the L.A. Times raise your hand.

... see that. Nobody except those two trolls.

re: #144 captwfcall

thanks. they are at 25k right now. they need Hannity to kick in, I bet he would do it in a heartbeat. and they've got to get this info out to LA Times employees. since most of them are getting canned they should be more receptive to making a few extra bucks. that's assuming this video wasn't already destroyed.

Excellent idea about the Times reporters that are getting canned. I bet they have some bad feelings and wouldn't mind biting the hand that used to feed them. At least metaphorically.

And I doubt that it's been destroyed. No one ever hands over an original copy.

W H A T ? ? ?

What F * * * I N G D I F F E R E N C E does it make who the SOURCE was?

N O O N E asked for the SOURCE - just the F * * * I N G V I D E O ! ! !

re: #103 Edouard

FYI zabasearch.com is your friend.

Looking for someone? Zabasearch is da bomb! I use it all the time.

I don't understand why said Giver of the Tape, would give it up, to a NEWS paper, but not allow it to be shown.

ok for what purpose than?

re: #103 Edouard

FYI zabasearch.com is your friend.

bizarre. They got me but it's my brother's girlfriends address about 100 miles from me

I went ahead and cancled my subscription to the LA Times....do they care? No, I'm just a little guy and not smart enough to understand their superior logic, but I do know the difference between right and wrong.

re: #159 newsjunkie_ky.

McCain should use that point in his speeches. More redistributing the wealth ammunition I say

re: #53 spidly

odd how we know more about McCain's time in Vietnamese prisons than BO's life before public office

There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.

re: #127 dentate

Dang it.

I screwed that one up pretty good then.

Best for me to head off to bed then.

Goodnight Lizards.

Back in 18

(Long long day ahead.)

re: #125 nigella

Speaking of Pumas, I checked out a couple of their web sites thanks to Sharmuta, and they are pissed. They truly despise Obama and want him defeated. They hate the treatment of Sarah also. I'm not sure how many of them there are, but they really want Obama defeated. A better ally you couldn't have.

Let's bring them in. If they are willing to listen to our message, they will discover that we are not evil, and have their interests in mind.

re: #173 Maximu§

I went ahead and cancled my subscription to the LA Times....do they care? No, I'm just a little guy and not smart enough to understand their superior logic, but I do know the difference between right and wrong.

Your primitive intellect wouldn’t understand metals and alloys and things with molecular structures

BBL.

Hope I get the job I interviewed for yesterday writing software to help airdrops hit their target.
Too bad I probably won't get to watch test drops from a C130, even if I get the job.

re: #154 Kosh's Shadow

One 0bama to rule them all, one 0bama to bind then, one 0bama to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
In the land of Chicago where all politicians lie.

Actually, I finally figured out the analogy:

Saul Alinsky is Morgoth: The first evil power who taught Sauron evil.

William Ayers is Sauron: Turned evil, he forges in secret a master tool to give him power over all Middle Earth.

Barack Obama is The One Ring forged by Ayers to allow him power over America. Obama is Alinsky's vision fulfilled.

Somebody organize a protest at the LAT HQ.

Yellow ribbons. Free The Obama Terror Tapes. Countdown - 180 days hiding the tapes.

Maybe all these corrupt media outlets are just feathering their nests for a _(shudder) B Hussein O administration. Then, when the inevitably go bankrupt, due to public disgust with their perfidy, and the rise of the new media, they can be the next industry to be bailed-out.

There. Media owned by the government: the rough beast of totalitarianism; slouching a little bit closer to Sodom. Ayers must be wetting himself.

re: #178 spidly

Your primitive intellect wouldn’t understand metals and alloys and things with molecular structures

The Marxist One will redistribute intellect right after wealth.

re: #143 RedWhiteAndJewThis messiah thing is really really starting to get scary.

And they worshipped the Hope-Change which gave power unto the One: and they worshipped the One, saying, Who is like unto the One? who is able to get the video with him?
Re-vised-evlation 13:4

re: #129 Racer X

One way to get the L.A. Slimes to release the tape for sure:

Claim the tape has video footage of Obama, Ayers, and Dohrn yucking it up and laughing while mocking America.

All we need is one disgruntled ex-Times employee to say he saw the tape and thats what it shows. The Times will have to show the tape then.

What I don't understand is what we saw in the still pics. This wasn't Thanksgiving dinner at Grandma's with 12 people there, and Uncle Joe videotaping.

There were obviously a lot of people there. But only one camcorder or cellphone that can record video?

re: #154 Kosh's Shadow

One 0bama to rule them all, one 0bama to bind then, one 0bama to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them.
In the land of Chicago where all politicians lie.

GANDALF! We need you! You better be there for the Battle of the Five Armies!

re: #180 Dark_Falcon

Actually, I finally figured out the analogy:

Saul Alinsky is Morgoth: The first evil power who taught Sauron evil.

William Ayers is Sauron: Turned evil, he forges in secret a master tool to give him power over all Middle Earth.

Barack Obama is The One Ring forged by Ayers to allow him power over America. Obama is Alinsky's vision fulfilled.

0bama is a Nazgul! 9 for mortal men, doomed to die.
Who are the other 8?

Fun electoral facts:

* The electors who cast the actual electoral vote will meet to do so on December 15, 2008. Each state determines how their electors are chosen.

* There is no federal law requiring the electors to vote for the candidate to whom their vote was pledged in the popular election. If an elector votes in a way other than they are pledged, they are deemed a "faithless elector".

* Only 24 of the 50 states have laws punishing faithless electors. Of these 24, only Michigan nullifies the vote cast by the faithless elector as part of the punishment.

I say pay some guys from Black Water to go get it.......................

......................and ask them to keep the body count low.

re: #186 SteveC

GANDALF! We need you! You better be there for the Battle of the Five Armies!

Some say McCain is as old as Gandalf.
But it will be to us hobbits, men, dwarves, and elves, to save the middle class.

Barack Obama's economic blueprint sounds like one his communist father tried to foist on Kenya 40 years ago, with massive taxes and succor shrouded as "investments."

IBD from August 2008

re: #186 SteveC

GANDALF! We need you! You better be there for the Battle of the Five Armies!

Zombie is Gandalf. His reports are Glamding (the Noldor-forged sword Gandlf uses to kill the Balrog).

re: #167 HelloDare

Everybody who believes the L.A. Times raise your hand.

... see that. Nobody except those two trolls.

Light the grill!

re: #149 gmsc

Maybe if Charles claims to put up $100,000, Hannity will make that claim as his own.

I'll pay $1,000,000,000 Zimbabwean dollars for the tape! (At 11,000,000 percent inflation it'll cost me what? $5?)

Can they be challenged through the US court system?

Well, we can't forget, the LA Times outed several CIA agents last year.

All right, is it just me, but that pix on zombie's sight does look different from his press release pix.
the ears are different. the jaw is different --which I can see perhaps some braces fixed that, but the ears?

It's just hard for me that this is the only copy of this.

re: #183 jcm

The Marxist One will redistribute intellect right after wealth.

egad. Soon we'll be watering the crops with hope and change and gatorade.

It can be very reasonably argued that a source has no ownership to a quasi-private event videotape that is not recorded on their property.

The LAT has stepped into deep quicksand with this one.

OT but interesting:

Accuracy Of Polls a Question In Itself

/must be fans of Iowahawk

re: #187 Kosh's Shadow

0bama is a Nazgul! 9 for mortal men, doomed to die.
Who are the other 8?

Joe Biden is a Wraith. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid surely are that.

re: #199 spidly

egad. Soon we'll be watering the crops with hope and change and gatorade.

Well at least Starbucks will provide services.........

re: #185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

What I don't understand is what we saw in the still pics. This wasn't Thanksgiving dinner at Grandma's with 12 people there, and Uncle Joe videotaping.

There were obviously a lot of people there. But only one camcorder or cellphone that can record video?

They thought they'd bought up all the tapes...

zombie's site = not sight ---

I need to go to bed.

re: #185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Yeah, but what kind of people were there? Who goes to an event that Ayers, Dohrn and Khalidi go to? How many of them have video? How many of them believe they would be selling their souls to the devil if they gave up the tape. How many need the money? How many would be worried that they'd be found out?

re: #197 ggt

25 year difference in age?

re: #162 Gus 802

He should know by now considering that McCain brought this up today. This would all boil down to his own feelings regarding this campaign. I think it could create some interest in an otherwise dull newspaper who's only recent claim to fame is their slow demise and frequent layoffs. Basically the LA Times is unwilling to take any risks -- like most modern day papers.

Well, let's hope he's a McCain supporter. With all the uproar today, I suppose dull isn't going to fit until this dies down. Let's hope there is a tape and that they take the risk. Also, I hope the tape will be something that brings down the Messiah and not something, that others have commented on, to embarrass
McCain and Republicans...much ado about nothing.

re: #203 jcm

Well at least Starbucks ® will provide services.........

® wholly owned subsidiary of Clinton Inc

re: #201 twincitiesgirl

OT but interesting:

Accuracy Of Polls a Question In Itself

/must be fans of Iowahawk

Let's take a poll: How many of you believe poll results?

Likely original source for tape: Clintons.

Most likely to leak tape for $: Clintons.

Y'all are just too cynical. If I had a tape I didn't want released to the public, I'd make a copy and give it to a newspaper.

Sure, that'll keep it private.

re: #210 gmsc

Let's take a poll: How many of you believe poll results?

Now there's a hole with no bottom.

re: #208 Hobbes

True. At this point I don't see it being released regardless.

re: #197 ggt

All right, is it just me, but that pix on zombie's sight does look different from his press release pix.
the ears are different. the jaw is different --which I can see perhaps some braces fixed that, but the ears?

It's the 'fro. Didn't it say he sported a medium length afro back then?

re: #210 gmsc

Let's take a poll: How many of you believe poll results?

not me

Saw this poll today:

Who will win the Presidential Election?

A) The guy I'm voting for

B) That other fella

re: #197 ggt

Who the hell taught him how to tie his tie? A half-Windsor knot? Low-class!

Something for the overlords of the media-industrial complex to ponder:

Getting Obama elected is not the end of the story. It is the beginning. Even Obama supporters admit that he is joined at the hip to the establishment media. As go his fortunes, so go theirs.
When his inexperience, fallacious philosophy, and poor judgment bring disaster, and his administration goes down, the media will go down with him.

re: #186 SteveC

GANDALF! We need you! You better be there for the Battle of the Five Armies!

I use to have a dog named Gandalf.

re: #212 Pythagoras

Y'all are just too cynical. If I had a tape I didn't want released to the public, I'd make a copy and give it to a newspaper.

Sure, that'll keep it private.

Funny how gullible we are.

re: #218 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Who the hell taught him how to tie his tie? A half-Windsor knot? Low-class!

Our boy (girl?) Zombie either has no taste at all, or can pull together one hell of a disguise!

re: #210 gmsc

Let's take a poll: How many of you believe poll results?

Looks like someone beat me to that joke.

re: #212 Pythagoras

Hmm, yes we will bring up the tape, tease with the tape, not show the tape cuz we promised.
isn't this like blackmail; if the tape is bad, wouldn't they have an advantage over a would be president?
job security , just in case He wins?

75 people getting laid off. Thousands of potential donors to a legal fund. Seems like some out there in Cali would put two and two together.

OTOH, I can't say I've ever heard of anything being leaked from the media.

re: #218 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Who the hell taught him how to tie his tie? A half-Windsor knot? Low-class!

Ties are getting so fat at the top, what's the alternative? Four-in-hand?

On my crystal ball, I can see the headlines now....on the last day of print, the LA Times front page will read:

READERS, PLEASE FORGIVE US, WE'RE SICK AND NEED HELP! ITS MOTHERS FAULT! ITS FATHERS FAULT ALSO, HE CHEATED ON POOR MOM, BUT MOM'S DRINKING BINGES MIXED WITH HER PILL PROBLEM REALLY MADE OUR HOUSE UNSTABLE AND AND....UH, JUST PUT DOWN THIS PAPER AND WALK AWAY.

re: #219 Shiplord Kirel

Something for the overlords of the media-industrial complex to ponder:

I like to think of it as the media-Messiah complex.

re: #212 Pythagoras

Y'all are just too cynical. If I had a tape I didn't want released to the public, I'd make a copy and give it to a newspaper.

Sure, that'll keep it private.

I should have known! In Vietnam, we always protected our secret operational plans by giving a copy to Walter Cronkite. What could possibly be safer?

re: #127 dentate

No, that's Gollum. The Golem was actually a good guy.

Then there's this Gollum...as a Ferengi!
Original here, Comrades!

THE BOYCOTT IS ON!

No matter what, the LA Times' non-sequitur of an excuse doesn't prevent a boycott.

re: #146 ggt

I hope my ex doesn't find this site!

Here is a picture that needs to be plastered everywhere.

scroll down, obama with a cigarette.

re: #210 gmsc

Let's take a poll: How many of you believe poll results?

Political polls by the in-the-tank-for-Leftists MSM and pseudoscience pollsters are pretty darn bad. Iowahawk's expose of the reality of the situation, one of certain uncertainty, was brilliant.

Also consider that much "responsible" scientific research may also be bad. Complex article but here goes link:

Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
John P. A. Ioannidis

Summary

There is increasing concern that most current published research findings are false. The probability that a research claim is true may depend on study power and bias, the number of other studies on the same question, and, importantly, the ratio of true to no relationships among the relationships probed in each scientific field. In this framework, a research finding is less likely to be true when the studies conducted in a field are smaller; when effect sizes are smaller; when there is a greater number and lesser preselection of tested relationships; where there is greater flexibility in designs, definitions, outcomes, and analytical modes; when there is greater financial and other interest and prejudice; and when more teams are involved in a scientific field in chase of statistical significance. Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias. In this essay, I discuss the implications of these problems for the conduct and interpretation of research.

Political polls? A joke.

re: #226 Moe Katz

Ties are getting so fat at the top, what's the alternative? Four-in-hand?

I understand the hot new liberal way to tie neckties is the "Alcatraz Ascot".

(Linked via the LA Times, just to annoy them)

re: #235 gmsc

I understand the hot new liberal way to tie neckties is the "Alcatraz Ascot".

(Linked via the LA Times, just to annoy them)

Huh, that came as noose to me.

re: #103 Edouard

wtf? That is some scary shit.

re: #231 Pythagoras

THE BOYCOTT IS ON!

No matter what, the LA Times' non-sequitur of an excuse doesn't prevent a boycott.

LA Times Boycott? Isn't that like a call to Divest from North Korea?

Kind of interesting Seattle Times article on Obama's years in L.A. and NYC here.

Lots of names of people who knew him, but not willing to give up much information. (Zombie, I assume you've been aware of this article for quite some time.)

re: #233 ggt

Here is a picture that needs to be plastered everywhere.

scroll down, obama with a cigarette.

He looks a little peeved.

For all you fans of LOTRs................

"Do you like what you doth see...?" said the voluptuous elf-maiden as she provocatively parted the folds of her robe to reveal the rounded, shadowy glories within. Frito's throat was dry, though his head reeled with desire and ale.

She slipped off the flimsy garment and strode toward the fascinated boggie unashamed of her nakedness. She ran a perfect hand along his hairy toes, and he helplessly watched them curl with the fierce insistent wanting of her.

"Let me make thee more comfortable," she whispered hoarsely, fiddling with the clasps of his jerkin, loosening his sword belt with a laugh. "Touch me, oh touch me," she crooned.

Frito's hand, as though of its own will, reached out and traced the delicate swelling of her elf-breast, while the other slowly crept around her tiny, flawless waist, crushing her to his barrel chest.

"Toes, I love hairy toes," she moaned, forcing him down on the silvered carpet. Her tiny pink toes caressed the luxuriant fur of his instep while Frito's nose sought out the warmth of her precious elf-navel.

"But I'm so small and hairy, and...and you're so beautiful," Frito whimpered, slipping clumsily out of his crossed garters.

The elf-maiden said nothing, but only sighed deep in her throat and held him more firmly to her faunlike body. "There is one thing you must do for me first," she whispered into one tufted ear.

"Anything," sobbed Frito, growing frantic with his need. "Anything!"

She closed her eyes and then opened them to the ceiling. "The Ring," she said. "I must have your Ring."

Frito's whole body tensed. "Oh no," he cried, "not that! Anything but...that."

"I must have it," she said both tenderly and fiercely. "I must have the Ring!"

Frito's eyes blurred with tears and confusion. "I can't," he said. "I musn't!"

But he knew resolve was no longer strong in him. Slowly, the elf-maiden's hand inched toward the chain in his vest pocket, closer and closer it came to the Ring Frito had guarded so faithfully...

No matter what, the LA Times' non-sequitur of an excuse doesn't prevent a boycott.

LA Times Boycott? Isn't that like a call to Divest from North Korea?

We need Hans Brix to write the LA Times an angry letter, threatening to write them another angry letter if they don't think about maybe releasing the video...eventually...perhaps.

re: #237 Maximu§

wtf? That is some scary shit.

/nailed me to the wall, bookmarked that sucker

re: #237 Maximu§

wtf? That is some scary shit.

But it works

I must admit I'm starting to wonder if there really is nothing 'interesting' on the tape, or even if there might be something incriminating toward McCain.

Why would the paper admit it had the tape but were refusing to release it? Why try to draw attention to this? If it was that bad they could just deny they had anything- describe reports of the tape as nasty Republican rumours designed to hurt Obama, etc, etc.

I'm a bit worried they're trying to goad conservatives into demanding it, then do a "ok, you asked for it!" and release something that's highly damaging to the McCain campaign.

I just convinced someone to vote for McCain. Sent her the Hot Air and the Boortz links, and discussed stuff on my own with her.

re: #226 Moe Katz

Ties are getting so fat at the top, what's the alternative? Four-in-hand?

LOL, I don't wear them anymore, but when I did, if I tied a half-Windsor, I'd get ridiculed.

Sen Obama hasn't changed at all from his hidden past. He is sugar coating it now, this is not the person who would wield power. People only radically change their courses in life when they get religion or fall in love.

More light needs to be shone on the candidates. Sen McCain will be revealed to be pretty much what he projects. An experienced statesman who will protect the country and it's citizens. Sen Obama will... well we don't really know since he ducks from the light whenever it is shone on him and has the perps shutdown and locked out and ostracized.

Sen. Obama should just come clean about his past and all the public records of himself that he hides.

I'm a bit worried they're trying to goad conservatives into demanding it, then do a "ok, you asked for it!" and release something that's highly damaging to the McCain campaign.

This is certainly a possibility, and not beneath the shameless propagandists at the LA Times, but they're thrashing about with progressively implausible excuses suggests otherwise.

OT, but cracking me up.

It's time for me to head to bed. Talk to you all tomorrow.

re: #247 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

LOL, I don't wear them anymore, but when I did, if I tied a half-Windsor, I'd get ridiculed.

It all depends on the width of the tie and the type of collar. I'm a bit of a GQ type, I'm afraid.

re: #244 twincitiesgirl

But it works

Yes it does, too well.

re: #241 IslandLibertarian

The preface from BOTR, thankee kindly.

Good night all!

re: #244 twincitiesgirl

But it works

/Diddy Blog #30

Google has been really sluggish at times tonight. But not LGF. Strange.

Night Lizards!

weet dreams.

re: #246 TheMatrix31

Good job, I managed to swing 1 moonbat relative from the dark side of the force.

re: #241 IslandLibertarian

"Kodak khaki nodoze!" cried Gimlet.

"A Dristan nasograph!" cried Legolam.

re: #259 sngnsgt

Good job, I managed to swing 1 moonbat relative from the dark side of the force.

Bravo, Mazel Tov.

re: #238 spidly

LA Times Boycott? Isn't that like a call to Divest from North Korea?

Or sell your shares of Delorean Motor Company.

re: #20 Sharmuta

Tomorrow's excuse: we cannot release this tape due to national security concerns. Yeah, yeah.... that's the ticket! National security... because we're, uh... patriotic!

Won't work - the LA Times had zero qualms and hesitations over reporting and releasing data on the confidential and legal US use of the SWIFT financial network for tracking terrorist financial transactions. Even the remote possibility of illegality of the surveillance made it an imperative for the LA Times to report it regardless of the damage done to national security. The program was and remains legal - but it is not virtually useless since the terrorists were tipped off by the NY Times and LA Times reporting. Fundamentally, the story was nothing more than a hit piece at the Administration.

Just as keeping this video under wraps is yet another example of bias - in this case to protect Obama. Like any lie - the story excuse around this one keeps changing as pressure is placed on them.

re: #259 sngnsgt

Good job, I managed to swing 1 moonbat relative from the dark side of the force.

hah! I swung a lesbian couple who manage MR/DD adult group homes.