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Open | Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:01:01 pm PDT

Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society.

— Ralph Waldo Emerson

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1 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:03:16pm

Ta Da!

2 M. Bensson-Levi  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:03:46pm

NYTOL

3 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:03:46pm

and time for bed.
ASX and and Nikkei in positive territory. hope gains increase tomorrow

4 captwfcall  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:04:44pm

great, another video on youtube that singles out the fringe tards.

5 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:06:39pm

From what has come out over the past couple of days, or not as the case maybe. Tonights thread quote is very appropiate. Evening all. Night shift checking in.

/still trying to get through zombies latest missive. busy, busy boy I am.

6 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:07:06pm

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

McCain's jailer in Vietnam claims they never laid a hand on him. I wonder if the moonbats are going to take this crap and run with it.

7 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:08:37pm

Here is a link to all the bumpersticker-ish material I put up on Flickr. Please feel free to print and display anything therein.

8 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:08:38pm

..and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Rev. 21:8

ok, that's a little harsh.......but liars do suck.

9 captwfcall  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:10:32pm

re: #6 Moe Katz

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

McCain's jailer in Vietnam claims they never laid a hand on him. I wonder if the moonbats are going to take this crap and run with it.

wouldn't put it past them. they have to tread lightly though. that could backfire on them big-time.

10 astronmr20  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:10:35pm

Ok,

We all want to see the new McCain spot that Rawmuse wrote and performed the music for. Can we get a working link to it?

11 astronmr20  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:11:25pm

re: #9 captwfcall

wouldn't put it past them. they have to tread lightly though. that could backfire on them big-time.

For the most part, the MSM HAS stayed away from this one, except for one particular ABC news program, I seem to remember.

12 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:11:55pm

re: #9 captwfcall

wouldn't put it past them. they have to tread lightly though. that could backfire on them big-time.

Yes it could, good point.

13 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:12:01pm

re: #6 Moe Katz

The moonbats may, but the MSM is not likely to. Too many eye witnesses and too much documentation to the contrary. Besides, who wants to remind people of McCain's service?

14 SurferDoc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:12:46pm

Holas!

15 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:12:59pm

re: #10 astronmr20

We want muse!
We want muse!
We want muse!

16 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:13:23pm

re: #13 wolfie

The moonbats may, but the MSM is not likely to. Too many eye witnesses and too much documentation to the contrary. Besides, who wants to remind people of McCain's service?

His medical records alone would verify the torture, I should think.

17 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:13:54pm
18 Miss Molly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:14:12pm

It seems to me that there were an awful lot of witnesses as to what McCain and others were subjected to in Viet Nam.

19 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:14:16pm

re: #10 astronmr20

Ok,

We all want to see the new McCain spot that Rawmuse wrote and performed the music for. Can we get a working link to it?

/how about Diddy Blog #29?

20 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:14:47pm

re: #11 astronmr20

For the most part, the MSM HAS stayed away from this one, except for one particular ABC news program, I seem to remember.

I thought it was CNN that ran it recently. It was a BBC piece, but whoever aired it here clipped the caveats suggesting the NVA guard was full of shit and did live in a police BTW

21 Scion9  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:14:51pm

re: #6 Moe Katz

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

McCain's jailer in Vietnam claims they never laid a hand on him. I wonder if the moonbats are going to take this crap and run with it.

They already interviewed him on MSNBC ages ago; you know, for balance. So yes, the moonbats are going to run with it.

22 spirochete  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:15:31pm

re: #10 astronmr20

Ok,

We all want to see the new McCain spot that Rawmuse wrote and performed the music for. Can we get a working link to it?

No kidding! Dying to hear it.

23 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:15:54pm

re: #16 Moe Katz

You bet. It would be a stupid move for the Obama campaign and MSM to touch that one.

(I corrected the redundancy!)

24 Gus 802  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:16:00pm

re: #6 Moe Katz

Yeah, Vietnam, unlike popular belief is still a communist country with all of the typical propagandist behavior.

If they are going to second guess McCain they might as well throw in Stockdale, Day, and the rest of the POWs. I guess "The Bug" was just a conspiracy theory created to pass the time.

It does fit in with a liberal mentality however and the lunatic left well eat this up. They might even use it in their future revisionist history lessons.

25 astronmr20  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:16:11pm

re: #17 rawmuse

This is the one link I have.

It worked.

Well-done. Quite a different approach... Is anyone going to buy airtime to run it?

Of course Fox already has...

26 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:16:15pm

re: #22 spirochete

where were you in DK?

27 Scion9  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:16:23pm

re: #21 Scion9

They already interviewed him on MSNBC ages ago; you know, for balance. So yes, the moonbats are going to run with it.

Here is the story at Limbaugh's site. NBC took down the video, Orwellian bastards that they are.

28 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:16:48pm

re: #23 wolfie

(I corrected the redundancy!)

Cute!

29 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:16:58pm

rawmuse:

I love it! What kind of bass is that?

30 Scion9  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:17:08pm

re: #27 Scion9

Here is the story at Limbaugh's site. NBC took down the video, Orwellian bastards that they are.

Ugh. Falling asleep at the keyboard. Forgot the link.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

31 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:17:31pm

While we still have it, let's take a few minutes to ponder capitalism:

Capitalism virtual tour

Yankee Dood It: Elf King Elmer Fudd explains capitalism to the shoemaker.

Heir-Conditioned: Sylvester inherits a fortune, and invesment expert Elmer Fudd tries to convince Sylvester to put his money to work.

Schoolhouse Rock: Money Rock: A great series of short videos about how money is supposed to work.

32 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:17:34pm

re: #17 rawmuse

This is the one link I have.

WOW ! That's a beauty!

33 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:17:40pm

re: #29 RedWhiteAndJew

That is a Ken Smith 6 string, circa 1982.

34 Moe Katz  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:17:50pm

re: #24 Gus 802

Yeah, Vietnam, unlike popular belief is still a communist country with all of the typical propagandist behavior.

If they are going to second guess McCain they might as well throw in Stockdale, Day, and the rest of the POWs. I guess "The Bug" was just a conspiracy theory created to pass the time.

It does fit in with a liberal mentality however and the lunatic left well eat this up. They might even use it in their future revisionist history lessons.

Figures that this would appear in The Times. The British have an appetite for such things.

35 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:18:07pm

re: #17 rawmuse

This is the one link I have.

Very retro, almost '40ish. Paid for by?

/did you just blow your anonymity?

36 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:18:31pm

re: #35 Killian Bundy

No pay. Donated to the cause.

37 capitalist piglet  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:18:52pm

re: #6 Moe Katz

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

McCain's jailer in Vietnam claims they never laid a hand on him. I wonder if the moonbats are going to take this crap and run with it.

They've already tried this - there have been a few things out there. I think any sane person just dismisses it.

38 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:19:05pm

IfJoe Biden and and Nancy Pelosi are NOT Klingons...

They really need to be more conscious not to look/act like them.

(And Reid is a Romulan)

39 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:19:20pm

re: #17 rawmuse

This is the one link I have.

Updinged and favorited!

40 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:19:38pm

re: #35 Killian Bundy

I am not the person named on the site. He is the producer.

41 Gus 802  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:19:50pm

re: #34 Moe Katz

And the Times is the better of them. BBC, Al Guardian, et al, are the worst.

Saw a mug shot of Andrew Sullivan. Now I have to recover -- I hate that man. How he was ever considered an ally of conservatives is beyond me.

42 astronmr20  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:20:11pm

re: #38 RTLM

IfJoe Biden and and Nancy Pelosi are NOT Klingons...

They really need to be more conscious not to look/act like them.

(And Reid is a Romulan)

Barney Rank is the Ferengi.

43 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:20:53pm

re: #36 rawmuse

Thanks, muse. On behalf of all of us and our kids.
Thanks.

44 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:20:59pm

re: #31 gmsc

While we still have it, let's take a few minutes to ponder capitalism:

Capitalism virtual tour

Yankee Dood It: Elf King Elmer Fudd explains capitalism to the shoemaker.

Heir-Conditioned: Sylvester inherits a fortune, and invesment expert Elmer Fudd tries to convince Sylvester to put his money to work.

Schoolhouse Rock: Money Rock: A great series of short videos about how money is supposed to work.

Oingo Boingo Capitalism

You're just a middle class, socialist brat
From a suburban family and you never really had to work
And you tell me that we've got to get back
To the struggling masses (whoever they are)
You talk, talk, talk about suffering and pain
Your mouth is bigger than your entire brain
45 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:21:00pm

re: #36 rawmuse

No pay. Donated to the cause.

/who's ScottFeamster?

46 astronmr20  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:21:04pm

Raw wrote and performed the music.

47 spirochete  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:21:29pm

re: #26 spidly

where were you in DK?

Maribo, down on Lolland island.

48 Scion9  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:21:32pm

re: #41 Gus 802

And the Times is the better of them. BBC, Al Guardian, et al, are the worst.

According to Rush, BBC were the ones who originally ran the story. Here is one of the videos that MSNBC ran on the story.

49 captwfcall  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:21:52pm

re: #17 rawmuse

very retro!

50 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:22:02pm

re: #31 gmsc

Don't know what it is but I can't load and watch "Heir Conditioned". *deep sigh* Oh well, might be the crap browser I am forced to use at work.

51 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:22:14pm

re: #45 Killian Bundy

CA GOP team leader.

52 spirochete  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:23:23pm

re: #46 astronmr20

Raw wrote and performed the music.

I love it when someone throws in a transient bluesy feel over jazz chordings. Nice job, RM, really nice.

53 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:24:12pm

I want another thread on Zombie's research. We're not done yet. We need more names, clues, avenues of investigation.

54 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:24:27pm

re: #50 BlueCanuck

Don't know what it is but I can't load and watch "Heir Conditioned". *deep sigh* Oh well, might be the crap browser I am forced to use at work.

You can try it at this link, but there's a commercial first.

55 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:24:34pm

re: #36 rawmuse

No pay. Donated to the cause.

Very nice, now, write me an opener, you got the script.

56 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:25:04pm

re: #51 rawmuse

CA GOP team leader.

/. . . and now back to your regularly scheduled scary Diddy Blog #28 (no marijuana was spared in the making of this video)

57 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:25:12pm

re: #53 Peter Verkooijen

I want another thread on Zombie's research. We're not done yet. We need more names, clues, avenues of investigation.

Why? You think all is lost.

58 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:25:13pm

Good night, all.

59 Tamron  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:25:32pm

LAUGH-IN BLOOPERS -- 9 minutes worth.
.

60 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:26:35pm

Thank you all for the nice compliments!

61 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:27:19pm

re: #54 gmsc

Nope, still no worky. Must be AOHell. Have to remember to check it out when I get home.

62 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:27:36pm

/So who is Balok?

63 Gus 802  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:27:42pm

re: #48 Scion9

According to Rush, BBC were the ones who originally ran the story. Here is one of the videos that MSNBC ran on the story.

Thanks. Of course the prison director wouldn't have much privy to any torture performed by the specialists. Even if he did he can't go against the official version endorsed by the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.

64 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:27:56pm

re: #57 Sharmuta

Why? You think all is lost.

It is unless we uncover proof that Ayers and Obama met in the early 1980s. Otherwise, the work should continue during the Obama presidency, as long as we still can.

/ bitch...

65 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:29:18pm

Muse....that video's not working for me, bud.

66 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:29:39pm

re: #62 RTLM

/So who is Balok?

From the episode "The Corbomite Manover". Just a puppet.

67 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:29:57pm

re: #65 TheMatrix31

Yes, it is not a real robust site. Wait a couple minutes, try again.

68 spirochete  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:30:06pm

OT: I guess.

I have an Amazon Kindle, which I love. Just went to the Kindle page at Amazon to look at the bestsellers. Number #1 is some spiritual type book with this as part of the description:

One of Dr. Sha's students with a very powerful third eye developed his third eye by doing the Ginseng Tree meditation every night

It emphasizes to do this with fingers up.

69 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:31:29pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

From the episode "The Corbomite Manover". Just a puppet.

You are correct. It IS Obama.

70 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:31:33pm

re: #67 rawmuse

Yes, it is not a real robust site. Wait a couple minutes, try again.

It's a white page without even a video box. I'll try in a bit.

71 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:33:09pm

re: #64 Peter Verkooijen

Yes- how dare I point out the bed you've made for yourself around here with your repeated defeatist comments, child.

72 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:33:51pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

From the episode "The Corbomite Manover". Just a puppet.

If you ever watch Star Trek: The Original Series, and you watch all the way through the credits, he's the image you see last, just before the production logo.

73 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:36:11pm

re: #17 rawmuse

This is the one link I have.

You did that?! Great job, my friend!

74 captwfcall  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:36:48pm


take diddy's advice (can't believe I'm saying that!) ..wait in line if you have to, but VOTE! don't let them win!
these diddy blogs crack me up. I can't believe this guy is successful. This video was just posted a few minutes ago. been scanning youtube for new obama crud.

75 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:37:29pm

A few good blog posts that come highly recommended:

AFTERBURNER!: Pajamas Media has made all of Bill Whittle's AFTERBURNER videos available for free! You can even vote for your favorites.

European-Style Political Economy Coming to America: "A lot of folks, particularly on the left, look with some fondness at the political economy of continental Europe. They are attracted by high job security, short work weeks, long vacations, and a strong welfare system. They make the mistake of seeing in these traits a more promising society "for the little guy," when in fact just the opposite is true."

Understandiing the AIG Collapse in 10 minutes (video)

76 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:37:40pm

re: #72 gmsc

If you ever watch Star Trek: The Original Series, and you watch all the way through the credits, he's the image you see last, just before the production logo.

Maybe Soros is a Talosian and if we choke out that rat bastard we'll get to see the real Obama.

77 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:38:17pm

It's 3 a.m. and the Prime Minister of Israel is Calling

Israel now is surrounded by tens of thousands of missiles, provided by Iran to Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas. Syria is known to have the largest chemical weapons stockpile in the Middle East, and both Syria and Iran are known to be developing nuclear capabilities. Among the likely scenarios for the next crisis is a massive surprise attack on Israel, possibly involving unconventional weapons. In choosing a President, supporters of Israel need to ask themselves who they most trust to answer the phone at the White House in the middle of the night when the Prime Minister of Israel calls.

/what'd I say?

78 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:38:32pm

re: #73 Sharmuta

Thank you!

79 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:39:04pm

No Fun At All - Joe DeLord

Here's a song from one of my favorite bands of all time, Swedish Punk artists "No Fun At All". Song is from the late 90s but I think it sums up Barack Obama perfectly.

Here are the lyrics;

[Link: www.sing365.com...]

80 rancher  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:40:39pm
Every violation of truth is not only a sort of suicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society.


MSM lies bleeding in my hand...

81 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:42:19pm

re: #77 Killian Bundy

It's 3 a.m. and the Prime Minister of Israel is Calling

/what'd I say?

Didn't their little monkeytroll / ex-Tehranmayor have some sort of physical breakdown recently?

82 rawmuse  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:42:56pm

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

Very nice, now, write me an opener, you got the script.

You are next up in the hopper, after the election.

83 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:43:08pm

re: #16 Moe Katz

His medical records alone would verify the torture, I should think.

He released all of his, Moe. Nobama released a one page statement from his doctor.

84 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:44:21pm

re: #74 captwfcall

Well no question to why Shawn Combs is voting for Obama.

85 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:44:32pm

re: #83 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I have never seen a more enigmatic politician. Records on him seem to be few and far between.

86 Peter Verkooijen  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:44:47pm

re: #71 Sharmuta

Yes- how dare I point out the bed you've made for yourself around here with your repeated defeatist comments, child.

I'm a realist. I'm trying to face facts and deal with them.

87 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:45:38pm

It's 3AM And The Prime Minister Of Israel Is Calling

/and it rings and rings and rings . . .

88 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:45:58pm

re: #81 RTLM

Menechem Begin?
Rav M.K?
David Ben-Gurion?
King David?

89 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:46:09pm

re: #83 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He released all of his, Moe. Nobama released a one page statement from his doctor.

what'd it say? I could only examine his back for to look upon the face of the lord is to surely die?

90 Ledger1  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:47:07pm

To pick up where Vet left off on McCain's winning margin estimates:

7 pnts from Bradley Effect, 3 pnts for pollster bias = McCain Landslide. – Vet_Missing_parts (1LT, Ret) #6

See: Vet's prediction on the general vote

I would agree.

Here is my thinking by election day:

6 pts from Bradley Effect, 2 pts for the under-count of the military/military community vote, 3 for the pollster bias and the infamous “margin of error” bias, minus 1 point for “early exit polls shows Obama wins so don’t bother to vote on election day" trick and minus 1 for actually ACORN fraud. That is 9 pts for McCain ahead in popular vote.

But, at the electoral vote level, I say is about 271 to 275 (it takes 270 to win) for McCain's probable win.

To recap the importance of the military vote:

This adds to my theory of the Military vote being the key variable [from comment on post in Iowahawk thread].

[Post in Americanthinker]

I'm a defense contractor at Ft. Bragg NC for the annual Special Operations Exposition and watched MY 82nd Airborne Choir sign [sing] at the opening ceremony this morning. You wonder, what does that have to do with the election? I'll tell you, if the rest of America heard what I heard from MY SOLDIERS (I'm retired Army and still serving!) you would not even question who to vote for, an honorably retired Naval officer or someone who has never even been in the boy scouts! You choose America and let me tell you...

See American thinker comments: Posted by: Spacelink Oct 28, 07:29 PM

Or see: Signs Pointing To A McCain Victory and click comments at bottom of page

[The military vote factor post]

With the military votes proper allocated to a battle ground state, say PA, I think McCain would win.

Here are some back of the envelope numbers:

Active military personnel 1.44 million
Reserve military personnel 0.848 million
Total 2.28 million

Military Dependents: .938 million

Those alone could swing the election.

[Military Times Poll]

Percent: McCain / Obama
Overall 68 23
Army 68 23
Navy 69 24
Air Force 67 24
Marines 75 18
Retirees 72 20
White Non-Hispanic 76 17
Hispanic 63 27
Black/African-American 12 79
Enlisted 67 24
Officers 70 22

See: Military Times poll
See: Military Times PDF file

Estimated number of Estimated Numbers of U.S. Veterans in Civil Life
6,231 (in thousands)

Then you can add in the Military Contractors of all strips and their families.

To what extent do the “polls” reflect of this? It is unknown. But, I would guess they under-count military personnel.

It is very possible that McCain will win the election.

For links see: Post 593 in Overnight Open Thread


For all links
see: Post 210 in Iowahawk on the Abuse of Statistics

And for links see: Post 593 in Overnight Open Thread

91 spidly  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:48:12pm

re: #90 Ledger1

where's your adjustment for fraud and military vote supression?

92 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:48:15pm

re: #85 BlueCanuck

I have never seen a more enigmatic politician. Records on him seem to be few and far between.

By his choosing.

93 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:49:39pm

re: #88 WrathofG-d

Menechem Begin?
Rav M.K?
David Ben-Gurion?
King David?

I jumped to Iran, I meant Ahmadinejad.

94 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:49:47pm

re: #89 spidly

what'd it say? I could only examine his back for to look upon the face of the lord is to surely die?

Honestly, I don't know. That's what I've read.

95 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:50:36pm

re: #81 RTLM

Didn't their little monkeytroll / ex-Tehranmayor have some sort of physical breakdown recently?

He denies it.

/he's the Balok of Iran anyway

96 BlueCanuck  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:51:34pm

re: #92 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Exactly. Makes you wonder what he's really hiding. Lot of stuff out there that we know about, so it makes me wonder if there's something that he doesn't want anyone to know about.

/for example he's only smoke and mirrors, especially for the left.

97 WrathofG-d  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:52:02pm

re: #93 RTLM

No, those were my answers to whom I would want to pick up the phone at 3:00 a.m., if Israel were just attacked.

98 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:52:04pm

re: #94 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Honestly, I don't know. That's what I've read.

He's 47 years old. John McCain is 72, and released ALL of his.

99 spirochete  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:52:54pm

re: #77 Killian Bundy

It's 3 a.m. and the Prime Minister of Israel is Calling


/what'd I say?


I would imagine total destruction of a nuclear state as a goal would not be in the best interests of any collection of nations. My guess is the plans, devices and infrastructure are already set in place and on permanent high alert that would result in a 500,000,000 less muslims in the worldshould Israel's existence cease.

100 TheMatrix31  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:53:21pm

Wanna see someone's Facebook status?

(insert name) says "Parks sat so King could walk. King walked so Obama could run. Obama runs so we can fly!".

101 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:53:50pm
102 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:54:21pm

Israel has her own subs and other delivery means to convey irreparable harm on Iran.

If the 3am call were to happen.


(one might notice the uptick in cross border raids prior to the election. Might be better to get it done now before a "more pragmatic and flexible" President takes up space in the White House)

103 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:54:28pm

re: #90 Ledger1

6 pts from Bradley Effect

/wrong planet, dreamworld, never never land

104 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:55:54pm

re: #96 BlueCanuck

Exactly. Makes you wonder what he's really hiding. Lot of stuff out there that we know about, so it makes me wonder if there's something that he doesn't want anyone to know about.

/for example he's only smoke and mirrors, especially for the left.

All I've read is speculation that his drug use is the reason why he will not release his medical records because they would show some problem related to his drug use. And you're correct- His whole campaign has been smoke and mirrors. He's hiding something.

105 Killian Bundy  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:56:52pm

re: #99 spirochete

I would imagine total destruction of a nuclear state as a goal would not be in the best interests of any collection of nations. My guess is the plans, devices and infrastructure are already set in place and on permanent high alert that would result in a 500,000,000 less muslims in the worldshould Israel's existence cease.

/and you're going to trust Lord President For Life Obama to execute that plan?

106 RTLM  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:57:40pm

re: #97 WrathofG-d

No, those were my answers to whom I would want to pick up the phone at 3:00 a.m., if Israel were just attacked.

Golda Meir too.

107 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:57:44pm

With suppression of the military vote always a possibility and fraud in the DC area a certainty, we have to get out the conservative vote in Virginia.

I am more optimistic today about McCain carrying the state than I was even a week ago.

108 wolfie  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:58:26pm

re: #97 WrathofG-d

I'll go with King David!

110 gmsc  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:58:43pm

re: #99 spirochete

I would imagine total destruction of a nuclear state as a goal would not be in the best interests of any collection of nations. My guess is the plans, devices and infrastructure are already set in place and on permanent high alert that would result in a 500,000,000 less muslims in the worldshould Israel's existence cease.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Albert Einstein

111 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:58:49pm

re: #86 Peter Verkooijen

I'm a realist scroll worthy. I'm trying to face facts and deal with them.

Face that fact and deal with it.

112 spirochete  Tue, Oct 28, 2008 11:58:53pm

re: #101 gmsc

Because Halloween is so close:

World Thriller Record Shattered in Austin (Hat tip: Hillbuzz)

"This is Halloween" (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

"It's astounding . . . time is fleeting . . ."

Bob Hope on Zombies

Obscure reference: Richard Garriot, the American who just returned from outer space, used to hold a mean Halloween night party every year at his place every year, a modern castle in Austin. One year, a disturbed individual returned after two days to complete whatever surreal journey Richard had set up, thinking it was a real quest for some treasure or something. Richard held him at bay with an Uzi until the cops arrived.

They gave him "permission" (over the phone) to shoot if he felt threatened.

113 captwfcall  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:18am

re: #112 spirochete

Obscure reference: Richard Garriot, the American who just returned from outer space, used to hold a mean Halloween night party every year at his place every year, a modern castle in Austin. One year, a disturbed individual returned after two days to complete whatever surreal journey Richard had set up, thinking it was a real quest for some treasure or something. Richard held him at bay with an Uzi until the cops arrived.

They gave him "permission" (over the phone) to shoot if he felt threatened.

Lord British! UO!

114 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:21am
115 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:25am

re: #105 Killian Bundy

/and you're going to trust Lord President For Life Obama to execute that plan?

Nope. I would hope he's out of that loop anyway, but he probably won't be.

116 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:40am

re: #108 wolfie

I'll go with King David!

/well, you just might have to settle for Lord President For Life Obama instead and he ain't taking no calls from Israel in the middle of the night

117 neocon hippie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:45am

One week to go. I can almost taste it now.

It's been exhausting and I'll be so glad when it's over.

118 RTLM  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:48am

re: #107 wolfie

With suppression of the military vote always a possibility and fraud in the DC area a certainty, we have to get out the conservative vote in Virginia.

I am more optimistic today about McCain carrying the state than I was even a week ago.

CNN Noticed -
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

(good sign - even if only gotten half right)

119 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:00:58am

Searching on Eve Rosahn found this interesting post:

oh my god - ayers… the bombings… I think he was there. I think Obama may have been there.

Eve Rosahn - her car was the get away car - the car was registered to her. She and Obama were friends at Columbia. Eve’s mom was Sonya Staff (THE Sonya Staff).

From Dreams From My Father (the father we now believe to be Frank Marshall Davis) and other sources we know that Obama was interested in South Africa divestment in the early 80’s.

At Occidental College Obama gave a well-received speech to kick off an anti-apartheid demonstration. He maintained anti-apartheid interest while at Columbia.

A major focal point of the anti-apartheid movement in the fall of 1981 was the Springboks rugby tour - they were an integrated South African rugby team on a “goodwill” tour of the US, creating controversy and drawing protests everywhere. Some of the protests were violent, including one at John F. Kennedy Airport and bombs were exploded.

The Weather Underground was involved with the Brinks robbery which left two police officers and a security guard dead. The Black Liberation Army was linked to bombings as well. The Brinks robbery was undertaken in order to finance the Springboks bombings.

Here is Eve (owned one of the get away cars) in her own words:
Eve S. Rosahn, Personal Narrative
Submitted via email, April 25, 2000

In 1970 I was part of a NYC organization called the December 4th Movement (D4M), which was organizing support for the New York Panther 21 (ultimately acquitted after a lengthy trial charging them with conspiracy etc.) D4M was focused on forcing specific institutions in NYC to offer bail or other monetary support as reparations for the exploitation of Black people. I was at Columbia University (the District Attorney prosecuting the Panther 21 — Frank Hogan — was a Columbia trustee), and Columbia had gotten an injunction against any type of demonstrations on campus — which we, of course, broke immediately.

On May 5, a number of us were in court, having been arrested for contempt of court for breaking the injunction. I can remember that the CU attorneys, from a giant corporate firm, walked into court expecting we would all get a serious fine and some jail time.

The judge could only shake his head and say “they’re killing our children,” as he let us off with $100 fines!

there’s more… this is just the tip of the iceberg

120 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:01:24am

re: #117 neocon hippie

No, he would take the call, to instruct Israel to show restraint, and lecture them on how its all their fault.

121 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:01:41am

re: #109 WrathofG-d

I would love to see that "immature" comment in a McCain ad!

122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:02:01am

re: #99 spirochete

I would imagine total destruction of a nuclear state as a goal would not be in the best interests of any collection of nations. My guess is the plans, devices and infrastructure are already set in place and on permanent high alert that would result in a 500,000,000 less muslims in the worldshould Israel's existence cease.

No way. You're saying Israel, if attacked, would annihilate other supposedly "muslim" countries for what reason? Retribution? Because they hate Israel or Jews?

123 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:02:20am

re: #111 Sharmuta

What is it with the eeyores lately? Some people stopped taking their meds again? BTW Sharmuta, keep up the good work. I am behind you at least. :)

124 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:03:30am

re: #121 wolfie

They would be better off showing that voting Obama wouldn't actually bring us closer to our European allies, but further away.

The entire world is going right, but we just might go left.

Sampson

125 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:04:05am

re: #122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No way. You're saying Israel, if attacked, would annihilate other supposedly "muslim" countries for what reason? Retribution? Because they hate Israel or Jews?

/if Israel's going down, they're taking everyone else with them

127 StudSupreme  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:04:29am

Y'all seem awfully hopeful that McCain will win.

I do sure hope you're right. But I can tell you for certain that in Northern Cali, it's pure moonbat territory. Almost exclusively Obamatards, and the very few McCain supporters are actually quite scared of showing themselves.

128 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:04:29am

re: #122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No way. You're saying Israel, if attacked, would annihilate other supposedly "muslim" countries for what reason? Retribution? Because they hate Israel or Jews?

Yep.

129 Ackomanyuki  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:04:30am

I can't sleep due to pre election anxiety. I even took an Ambien tonight an here I am five hours later. I am going to lay down now. I thought I would leave a short stream of conscious photo essay of images from my files that somewhat represent and mimic my recent thoughts as I try to go to sleep each night of late.

130 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:05:28am

re: #116 Killian Bundy

And not when he's eating a waffle either.

131 Fred72  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:05:54am

More MSM lies:

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

You'd think that if they're just going to make stuff up, it would at least be plausible. McCain gave half a million to Khalidi? Hellooooo? What part of "Khalidi is the bad guy" doesn't the biased press understand?

Nice try.

132 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:06:17am

re: #126 spidly

next cement delivery

THAT was great to hear, spidly. The first, and probably only, world leader to denounce him.

133 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:06:21am

re: #129 Ackomanyuki

"Hopiate of the masses"
/nice!

134 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:06:46am

re: #126 spidly

next cement delivery

So what you are trying to say is that we were throwing rocks and stones at them?

/considering the WWIV quote from Einstien, that's effing hilarious.

135 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:06:48am

re: #127 StudSupreme

Y'all seem awfully hopeful that McCain will win.

I do sure hope you're right. But I can tell you for certain that in Northern Cali, it's pure moonbat territory. Almost exclusively Obamatards, and the very few McCain supporters are actually quite scared of showing themselves.

Duh.
/

136 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:06:50am

re: #123 BlueCanuck

Thanks, {Blue}.

137 Gus 802  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:07:16am

I have my own personal thoughts about the election. Most of it wrapped up in my own neurosis so what's the point in bringing it up.

For the most part I think it's still a toss up given the numbers. Zogby has Obama ahead by 2% which is at the same point it had Kerry ahead by 2% in 2004.

Now is not the time to exhibit cynicism in the election.

138 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:07:35am

re: #126 spidly

next cement delivery

This whole election is so bizarre.

139 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:07:50am

re: #128 spirochete

Yep.

You're nuts.

140 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:08:04am

re: #127 StudSupreme

Y'all seem awfully hopeful that McCain will win.

I do sure hope you're right. But I can tell you for certain that in Northern Cali, it's pure moonbat territory. Almost exclusively Obamatards, and the very few McCain supporters are actually quite scared of showing themselves.

Thankfully, there are 49 other states that get to voice their opinion too.

141 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:08:19am

re: #124 WrathofG-d

Exactly!

142 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:09:08am

re: #136 Sharmuta

No problem. I know there's a few of us that jump in and try to straighten/hammer them out, but you have been doing stellar service. Figured that I would stand up and say that you are appreciated.

143 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:09:10am

Random Thoughts on a possible 0bama presidency:

• It won't matter if he raises capital gains taxes, because nobody will have capital gains anyway.

• He would be the first president to have his name already on all our currency: In God We Trust

• The Fairness Doctrine, if applied to newspapers, would be interesting. Newspapers would have to go through a difficult re-adjustment period as they explore this new concept of unbiased reporting.

144 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:09:14am

re: #139 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You're nuts.

It's not my idea. Someone had a link further up this thread. It's the whole reason they have boomers.

145 freedomplow  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:09:52am

Here we go...

Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations

Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign is allowing donors to use largely untraceable prepaid credit cards that could potentially be used to evade limits on how much an individual is legally allowed to give or to mask a contributor's identity, campaign officials confirmed.

You want to do something about the Presidential election?

Now is your chance.

Email this link to every news organization you can think of.

Now is the time to step up.

146 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:10:15am

re: #140 Sharmuta

Thankfully, there are 49 other states that get to voice their opinion too.

I think it's against the law in California to remind them of that.
;)

147 Sylvester_T_Cat  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:11:47am

re: #87 Killian Bundy

It's 3AM And The Prime Minister Of Israel Is Calling

/and it rings and rings and rings . . .

Just wondering...

We've probably all read about the Gaza phone banks that have Arabs dialing random American phone numbers in order to campaign for Barack the One. Internet-based phone calls, practically free.

Any chance that a few Israelis, particularly American-Israelis, could return the favor by calling from Israel and encouraging Americans, particularly Jewish Americans, to vote McCain/Palin? Think it would be effective?

148 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:11:56am

re: #138 spirochete

This whole election is so bizarre.

Bizarre? NO. We have two choices. One is a socialist who hates his country, and the other a liberal RINO who loves his country.

149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:12:54am

re: #144 spirochete

It's not my idea. Someone had a link further up this thread. It's the whole reason they have boomers.

Submarines that can deliver nukes?

150 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:14:42am

re: #148 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Bizarre? NO. We have two choices. One is a socialist who hates his country, and the other a liberal RINO who loves his country.

Agreed. Or as I tell 'em up here in Taxachusetts, it's between a Democrat and someone pretending to be a Democrat. Guess who's pretending?

151 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:14:43am

re: #142 BlueCanuck

Thanks again, Blue. They really are a drag. No point in accepting 0bama as president until after the election.

152 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:15:36am

Page Views: 192,613
Visits: 152,863

Way up from yesterday. Totally awesome!

153 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:17:25am

re: #149 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Submarines that can deliver nukes?

Yep.

154 I Need A Bigger Gun  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:17:29am

While all of this election year sniping is going on, quietly waiting in the wings, gently tapping their feet and smiling broadly to themselves, are about 13 million illegal aliens already here, and millions more waiting to get here, because they think they're about to have their wildest dreams come true. They're going to hit the jackpot, at our expense.

155 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:19:08am

re: #139 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You're nuts.

/you don't think Israel will use it's nuclear arsenal?

156 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:21:10am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

Two Words:

Sampson Option!

157 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:22:32am
158 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:23:36am

why for not are the european markets being open?

159 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:25:12am

re: #152 Sharmuta

Hello Sharmuta.....do I know you by another nic? I've always been the same here.

I agree with you. The numbers are awesome!

Still reeling from the LAT crappo. Came here just for a moment of sanity.

160 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:25:14am

hey any of y'all have a ps3?
I am having trouble setting up my wireless on it.

161 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:26:11am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

/you don't think Israel will use it's nuclear arsenal?

That's not remotely close to what I said. Do not put words in my mouth.

162 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:26:56am

zzzzzzzzzzzz
Goodnight all.
Keep up the good fight!

163 Timbre  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:27:14am

Charles: If you can get your comic artist to work quick, the BIG green football on the masthead needs to be heading straight for the noggins of a fleeing and panicking Obama & Biden.

164 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:28:21am

re: #161 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's not remotely close to what I said. Do not put words in my mouth.

You said . . .

No way. You're saying Israel, if attacked, would annihilate other supposedly "muslim" countries for what reason? Retribution? Because they hate Israel or Jews?

/did you forget your sarc tag?

165 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:28:26am

re: #155 Killian Bundy

/you don't think Israel will use it's nuclear arsenal?

That could be interesting. Let's say Iran launches a nuclear missle at Israel. I have this image of Israel firing a nuclear missle back, but it heads southeast instead of east.

Unmendeddinnerjacket brags, "Ha! See? The Israelis can't even aim for Iran correctly?" Israel responds, "Who's aiming for Iran? Our missile is headed for Mecca."

166 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:28:59am

re: #154 I Need A Bigger Gun

While all of this election year sniping is going on, quietly waiting in the wings, gently tapping their feet and smiling broadly to themselves, are about 13 million illegal aliens already here, and millions more waiting to get here, because they think they're about to have their wildest dreams come true. They're going to hit the jackpot, at our expense.

And the sad part is, it's either candidate that will make those dreams come true. Hopefully Sarah can knock some sense into Mac.

167 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:29:05am

re: #163 Timbre

where did the scared hippy and terrorist go?

168 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:29:39am
169 Timbre  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:30:28am

re: #167 WrathofG-d

where did the scared hippy and terrorist go?

They would probably do as stand-ins for Obama & Biden. But I'd rather see the real thing. It would be a hoot!

170 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:31:26am

re: #169 Timbre

There used to be guys up on the banner. A terrorist holding a hippy. (or vice versa). I just noticed they were gone.

171 RTLM  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:31:27am

Oh My!

Obama Speechwriter jumps ship, DUMPS on Obama and says she'll vote for McCain
Freepers


When we first met, Obama and I had a nice conversation about speeches and writing, and at the end of the meeting I handed him a pocket-sized bottle of Grey Poupon mustard so he wouldn’t have to ask staff if it was okay to put it on his hamburger. At the bottom of the bottle was the logo for “The South Beach Diet” and he snapped, “Oh so you read People magazine.” He seemed to think that I was commenting on his bathing suit picture.

I helped with his announcement speech and others. I worked in the Senate when he was in D.C. One day after a hearing on Darfur, we were walking back to the office. I was still hobbling from a very bad ankle injury and in a very kind and gentle way he offered his arm when we approached the stairs. But later in debate preps and phone conversations and meetings, I realized that I had made a mistake. I didn’t belong. No matter how hard I tried, my heart wasn’t in it anymore.

Hello, Wendy Button

172 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:31:46am

Muslim: All other religions that worship idols are wrong.
Non-Muslim: In what way?
M: They bow down to lumps of rock. Can't you see that's wrong?
N: And when *you* pray, what do *you* pray to?
M: We pray to Allah!
N: So since Allah is everywhere, it doesn't matter which way you face?
M: We must face Mecca.
N: And if you're *in* Mecca, which way do you face?
M: We face the Ka'abah
N: And what *is* the Ka'abah?
M: It's this huge rock...

173 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:34:01am

re: #165 gmsc

That could be interesting. Let's say Iran launches a nuclear missle at Israel. I have this image of Israel firing a nuclear missle back, but it heads southeast instead of east.

Unmendeddinnerjacket brags, "Ha! See? The Israelis can't even aim for Iran correctly?" Israel responds, "Who's aiming for Iran? Our missile is headed for Mecca."

I would not be surprised if that is target #1.

On the opposite side, Pakistani nukes are low yield, North Korea has trouble even launching missiles and Iran fakes most of their intel, so I don't think it would come by missile; probably fighter, container, boat or trucked in.

174 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:35:27am

re: #170 WrathofG-d

Been gone for awhile. Think it might have something to do with Cox and Forkum.

/don't know what but that's just a guess.

175 Timbre  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:36:50am

re: #170 WrathofG-d

There used to be guys up on the banner. A terrorist holding a hippy. (or vice versa). I just noticed they were gone.

Yeah, by Cox and Forkum. [Link: www.coxandforkum.com...] . But, alas, they escaped...or were crushed by the green pigskin!

176 Racer X  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:37:28am

re: #171 RTLM

Nice!

More please!

177 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:37:37am

re: #171 RTLM

Oh My!

Obama Speechwriter jumps ship, DUMPS on Obama and says she'll vote for McCain
Freepers


Hello, Wendy Button

Wow!

178 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:39:40am

No response from Sharmuta (perhaps she's sleeping). I believe she and I have met here....long ago. I like the new Sharmuta/whatever much better.

As for the Black Rock. Is it time yet?

179 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:41:36am

Best line from Jay Leno tonight:

"The economy must be bad. Today I saw someone go into a 99 cent store and buy an item on layaway."

180 Ledger1  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:41:53am

re: #127 StudSupreme

I don't see a lot of Obama stickers except in => LA.

I see more McCain stickers than Obama stickers south of the 91 and west of the 605. That would be some parts of LA County, all of Orange County, Riverside County and San Bernardino County, and San Diego County.

Just my observation.

I got to get back to work.

181 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:42:01am

re: #178 Sprite

I think she's gone to bed. It can be tiring jumping on mobies and eeyores. She's only been around for a little under two years though.

182 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:43:03am

Why nuke Mecca, when we can simply confiscate the black three-piece meteorite, a stationary target which their "religion" prohibits them from moving. It's located in an open air mosque and it's not far from the water. Any such operation is well within our military/paramilitary capabilities.

/I don't think a safe 45 minute air corridor over Saudi soil is too much to ask for

183 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:43:12am

re: #179 gmsc

What is Leno going to do when Obama outlaws his vehicles, and regulates him to just one!

184 RTLM  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:44:40am

re: #176 Racer X

A summation:

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

I was dead wrong about the surge and thought it would be a disaster. Senator John McCain led when many of us were ready to quit. Yet we march on as if nothing has changed, wedded to an old plan, and that too is a long way from the Democratic Party.

I can no longer justify what this party has done and can’t dismiss the treatment of women and working people as just part of the new kind of politics. It’s wrong and someone has to say that. And also say that the Democratic Party’s talking points—that Senator John McCain is just four more years of the same and that he’s President Bush—are now just hooker lines that fit a very effective and perhaps wave-winning political argument…doesn’t mean they’re true. After all, he is the only one who’s worked in a bipartisan way on big challenges.

Before I cast my vote, I will correct my party affiliation and change it to No Party or Independent. Then, in the spirit of election 2008, I’ll get a manicure, pedicure, and my hair done. Might as well look pretty when I am unemployed in a city swimming with “D’s.”

Whatever inspiration I had in Chapel Hill two years ago is gone. When people say how excited they are about this election, I can now say, “Maybe for you. But I lost my home.”

185 Timbre  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:45:40am

re: #179 gmsc

When I was about ten, I remember laughing milk from my nose with this one from Johnny Carson: "You know your radiator is dry when you take off the cap and a lizard crawls out." ( A glance into my Lizardoid future, perhaps?)

186 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:46:24am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Why nuke Mecca, when we can simply confiscate the black three-piece meteorite, a stationary target which their "religion" prohibits them from moving. It's located in an open air mosque and it's not far from the water. Any such operation is well within our military/paramilitary capabilities.

/I don't think a safe 45 minute air corridor over Saudi soil is too much to ask for

Of course that's possible, but we were addressing what Israel may do as it realizes it's about to be exterminated. Wouldn't it be rich if the Ark was behind those curtains?

187 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:47:16am

Why stop at spreading the wealth around? Should the rich be able to have multiple homes, and cars? Cell phones, and tvs? Computers and food?

There are poor without these things aren't there? Let's spread the social equality around.

188 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:47:40am

wonder how many bombs you could make from the rock

189 Timbre  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:48:30am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

...and relocate it to a patriotic field near Shanksville, PA, as a part of the memorial to our heroes.

190 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:49:52am

re: #180 Ledger1

I don't see a lot of Obama stickers except in => LA.

I see more McCain stickers than Obama stickers south of the 91 and west of the 605. That would be some parts of LA County, all of Orange County, Riverside County and San Bernardino County, and San Diego County.

Just my observation.

I got to get back to work.

I was just reading an observation from someone in the upper west side of New York (this was most likely on Hillbuzz somewhere). They mention that this is well-known as a democrat stronghold. The person remembers Gore signs everywhere during the 2000 election, and even more Kerry signs and buttons at every turn during the 2004 election.

The person writing this up goes on to note that he has seen relatively few 0bama signs and buttons around his neighborhood.

191 Ledger1  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:50:19am

re: #180 Ledger1


make that:

...south of the 91 and west East of the 605.

192 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:50:46am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Killian,

Exactly. Bravo.

193 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:51:48am

ok cowpoke, remember to never look down and lech em elokim!

194 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:53:07am

re: #181 BlueCanuck

Blue, under that name, you're right.

I seem to know her from a long time ago. She's 'da bomb in the present, imho.

195 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:53:58am

re: #185 Timbre

When I was about ten, I remember laughing milk from my nose with this one from Johnny Carson: "You know your radiator is dry when you take off the cap and a lizard crawls out." ( A glance into my Lizardoid future, perhaps?)

My favorite Carson line of all time happened as part of his Carnac sketch:

(holds envelope up to head)
"And the answer is . . . 'Star Wars', 'E.T.', a first baseman's glove, a catcher's glove, and Dolly Parton."

(rips open the envelope)
"Name two big hits, two big mitts, and . . . er, uh . . . a country singer!"

196 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:54:10am

RNC should run an ad before Obama's 1/2 hour giving the drinking game rules;
"hope"
"change"
"worst financial crisis"
"depression"
"Bush"
and any plan you're pretty sure McCain laid out a couple weeks ago

197 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:55:02am

re: #7 RedWhiteAndJew

Here is a link to all the bumpersticker-ish material I put up on Flickr. Please feel free to print and display anything therein.

Ditto for these that I did:
Obamunism

NO to Obama

198 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:55:40am

re: #196 spidly

RNC should run an ad before Obama's 1/2 hour giving the drinking game rules;
"hope"
"change"
"worst financial crisis"
"depression"
"Bush"
and any plan you're pretty sure McCain laid out a couple weeks ago

For drinking rules, or as straight bingo, you can generate a random card at Bing0bama.com!

199 Timbre  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:57:45am

Almost 3am in Texas. Must "Buenas Noches" for a spell...

200 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:57:48am

re: #198 gmsc

For drinking rules, or as straight bingo, you can generate a random card at Bing0bama.com!

Oh, and to find out what makes good drinking rules, check out this word cloud of his DNC acceptance speech.

201 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:57:57am

re: #189 Timbre

...and relocate it to a patriotic field near Shanksville, PA, as a part of the memorial to our heroes.

/I'd be honored to help write the operations order but, alas, I have an Obama like security clearance

202 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 12:59:26am

re: #199 Timbre

Almost 3am in Texas.


Almost 4 in MA.
Too much caffeine and late exercise... 8^(

203 astronmr20  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:01:02am

re: #184 RTLM

A summation:

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

Good for her.

I can't help but think, though, that reading this, she has been somehow fired or laid off already, leading to her change in heart. It's a good piece but something doesn't sit right.

204 spirochete  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:01:16am

re: #202 Abu Al-Poopypants

Almost 4 in MA.
Too much caffeine and late exercise... 8^(

Sure is. Nite all. Just remember, when you're surrounded, it simplifies the decision making process.

205 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:02:59am

WTF. europe market just opened? They go on daylight savings or something?

206 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:03:04am

For any lizards who are still up, you get the honor of being the first to get a link to my new "VOTE THIS TUESDAY" 15 puzzle!

You may also know this type of puzzle as a "slider puzzle". The object is to arrange the tiles so that they spell out "VOTE THIS TUESDAY"!

207 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:07:32am

G'night All. Prayers for 11/4 and McCain/Pallin! Because (among many other important things) if the O wins, the markets will really tank into oblivion..(within 24 hours).

Cannot go there. Sleep well. I do recommend to all who I love - all Lizards included......just get a little cash out and hold it outside your typical lending institutions. That's all. I mean it.

208 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:11:03am

re: #190 gmsc

I was just reading an observation from someone in the upper west side of New York ... The person writing this up goes on to note that he has seen relatively few 0bama signs and buttons around his neighborhood.

Obama stickers and signs are everywhere in Park Slope.

209 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:14:01am

Good God, the Eeyores are out in force!

Please people, do not pay any attention to our resident pessimists. They are convinced it is all over, that Obama has won, regardless of the outcome of the November 4th election.

Get out and vote for McCain/Palin! Get out and vote, no matter the weather, no matter the obstacles! VOTE!

Don't allow some lemon sucking, long time posters here keep you from casting your vote!

And to the lizards who keep up the "Obama has already won" meme: Shut.The.Fuck.Up. You can sit in your own house in despair, but the rest of us will keep working to make sure Obama is defeated.

But quit with the "Get used to an Obama presidency" meme. It's not over yet.

The rest of us might yet pull this thing off, and you'll be in our debt when we do.

Cowards.

210 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:15:21am

re: #206 gmsc
Didn't work.

211 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:15:49am

re: #182 Killian Bundy

Why nuke Mecca, when we can simply confiscate the black three-piece meteorite, a stationary target which their "religion" prohibits them from moving. It's located in an open air mosque and it's not far from the water. Any such operation is well within our military/paramilitary capabilities.

/I don't think a safe 45 minute air corridor over Saudi soil is too much to ask for

You wouldn't even need the air corridor. Isn't there a Carrier always planted in the Gulf of Aden? SEALS would just hump it, no?

212 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:19:41am

re: #210 rancher

Didn't work.

You do need to have Javascript enabled on your browser for the puzzle to work. Otherwise, you'll just see a picture of the puzzle solved.

213 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:19:43am

re: #211 Badge of Kaffir Pride

You wouldn't even need the air corridor. Isn't there a Carrier always planted in the Gulf of Aden? SEALS would just hump it, no?

Is there? I don't know that.

/looks to be about 25 miles, you're going to need helicopters

214 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:19:58am

re: #209 Intrepid

I already voted for McCain/Palin. You?

In the event the O Does Win, you had BEtter have withdrawn money from your own account.

That was my message and That is all. Sending love.

215 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:21:58am

re: #213 Killian Bundy

Is there? I don't know that.

/looks to be about 25 miles, you're going to need helicopters

I thought there was a CVN Task Force always in the area. That being said, I'm only a Canadian who tried to get into Annapolis. *shrug*

216 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:22:26am

re: #209 Intrepid

Don't allow some lemon sucking, long time posters here keep you from casting your vote!

Lemon sucking? I already voted, what happens will happen, it's been great political theater, but if America votes Obama then America deserves Obama. Country boy will survive.

217 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:22:47am

OT: Read this from HCF.

McC's huge internal poll number

218 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:23:46am

re: #209 Intrepid

Good God, the Eeyores are out in force!

Please people, do not pay any attention to our resident pessimists. They are convinced it is all over, that Obama has won, regardless of the outcome of the November 4th election.

Get out and vote for McCain/Palin! Get out and vote, no matter the weather, no matter the obstacles! VOTE!

Don't allow some lemon sucking, long time posters here keep you from casting your vote!

And to the lizards who keep up the "Obama has already won" meme: Shut.The.Fuck.Up. You can sit in your own house in despair, but the rest of us will keep working to make sure Obama is defeated.

But quit with the "Get used to an Obama presidency" meme. It's not over yet.

The rest of us might yet pull this thing off, and you'll be in our debt when we do.

Cowards.

I've been having plenty of fun with the 0bama supporters who try and bring conservatives down by talking about how every poll shows that 0bama will win.

When they start, I take their attitude to its logical conclusion - "You're right! 0bama is inevitable! As a matter of fact, his victory is so secure, he doesn't need a single additional vote in any state. It sure sounds like I'd better make sure I and my fellow McCain voters get out in full force! Don't you worry about 0bama though, as he's 'inevitable', right?"

Heh heh.

219 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:25:03am

re: #217 Badge of Kaffir Pride

OT

Off topic, on an open thread?!? That's a good trick!

220 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:25:48am

re: #217 Badge of Kaffir Pride

OT: Read this from HCF.

McC's huge internal poll number

Ehhhhhhhhhhhh.....I wanna believe it but it's hard to believe that, you know?

221 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:26:13am

re: #215 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I thought there was a CVN Task Force always in the area. That being said, I'm only a Canadian who tried to get into Annapolis. *shrug*

I don't know. Saudi Arabia is our ally.

/it would require helicopters and have to be over within an an hour or so

222 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:26:24am

re: #214 Sprite

Voted for McCain last week. And I don't have any money to withdraw.

223 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:26:53am

re: #209 Intrepid

Insipid, I'm not saying people should stay home in despair. Yes, absolutely, get out and vote!

But you're achieving nothing just by being cheery. I bet where you live everybody votes for McCain. That could lull you into a false sense of comfort.

I'm just trying to make you aware that you may have a distorted view of reality, that you may be underestimating how bad the situation is. I want people to face the facts and take the necessary action.

I've been warning since Obama first announced his run that the media would carry him all the way to the White House as the "redeemer of all America's sins". Up until now conservatives have responded cluelessly. They don't understand what drives the Obama movement, they don't know how to play the media, they don't know how to reach younger generations. It has been frustrating to watch.

Don't blame me. I've done what I could and will continue doing what I can.

224 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:28:23am

re: #219 gmsc

My bad. Still learning LGF etiquette and it didn't seem to fit in with the way the convo(s) are/were going.

re: #221 Killian Bundy

I don't know. Saudi Arabia is our ally.

/it would require helicopters and have to be over within an an hour or so

With friends like the Saudis, who needs enemies?

225 RTLM  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:30:13am

re: #203 astronmr20

Good for her.

I can't help but think, though, that reading this, she has been somehow fired or laid off already, leading to her change in heart. It's a good piece but something doesn't sit right.

They wouldn't fire her, a speech writer, this close to decision day.

We'll just have to wait and see if it bubbles up before Tuesday.

226 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:31:09am

re: #223 Peter Verkooijen

Go away, eeyore.

227 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:32:42am

What's an eeyore?

228 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:33:07am

re: #223 Peter Verkooijen

So tell me. Are you subbing for JMV or what? You must be one of those people that hold polls to be the gospel of what's going to be happening on election night. You've obviously been around the block a few times, why the morose sobs now?

/what for the ultimate poll on the 4th.

229 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:33:08am

re: #224 Badge of Kaffir Pride

My bad. Still learning LGF etiquette and it didn't seem to fit in with the way the convo(s) are/were going.

No problem. You really only need to say "Off Topic/OT" on threads with a particular theme. In an open thread, you can jump in with anything.

My Halloween videos post didn't exactly follow from previous conversation, either.

230 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:33:17am

re: #223 Peter Verkooijen

Yes you've done "what you could" by discouraging as many people here as possible. But I am not you - I do not see defeat as inevitable.

And I am not you in another way - I prefer to be polite. I do not skew another poster's nic in order to make myself look superior.

Unlike you.

231 RTLM  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:33:39am

re: #223 Peter Verkooijen

Insipid, I'm not saying people should stay home in despair. Yes, absolutely, get out and vote!

But you're achieving nothing just by being cheery. I bet where you live everybody votes for McCain. That could lull you into a false sense of comfort.

I'm just trying to make you aware that you may have a distorted view of reality, that you may be underestimating how bad the situation is. I want people to face the facts and take the necessary action.

I've been warning since Obama first announced his run that the media would carry him all the way to the White House as the "redeemer of all America's sins". Up until now conservatives have responded cluelessly. They don't understand what drives the Obama movement, they don't know how to play the media, they don't know how to reach younger generations. It has been frustrating to watch.

Don't blame me. I've done what I could and will continue doing what I can.

Then grow a spine.

We may lose this election. We won't lose the country.

232 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:33:41am

re: #229 gmsc

No problem. You really only need to say "Off Topic/OT" on threads with a particular theme. In an open thread, you can jump in with anything.

My Halloween videos post didn't exactly follow from previous conversation, either.

Thanks! Much obliged.

233 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:34:13am

re: #227 Peter Verkooijen

What's an eeyore?

Above a troll, but just a little bit below a moby. See "House at Pooh Corner" for a better understanding.

/or is that too much above your level?

234 Spirit93  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:34:26am

re: #227 Peter Verkooijen

What's an eeyore?

It's somebody who's too lazy to google.

235 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:34:42am

re: #232 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Thanks! Much obliged.

You're welcome.

236 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:34:52am

re: #217 Badge of Kaffir Pride

OT: Read this from HCF.

McC's huge internal poll number

Yikes! 50/41 for McCain? Would that it were true. There would have to have been a complete meltdown of the polling industry for this to be true. Various lizards have cited some evidence for this, but we shall see.
One thing I do know: If McCain pulls it out in spite of polls and media hostility, moonbat heads will explode all over the world. Riots in certain areas are a certainty, and the long-term consequences would include a major boost for the conspiracy industry.

Could our media and academic elites be this wrong? I think they are and, in defense of that position, we can find many examples of the supposed intelligentsia of a country being completely, outrageously wrong. In the late 19th century, for example, academic elites in the west believed that material progress had eliminated the threat of large-scale war among the industrialized nations. At the same time, very few elitists, in the press or academia either one, questioned the prevailing racist and sexist assumptions of the time. In fact, academics in several fields were the driving force behind racism in many ways, at one point developing a kind of pseudo-science of not just racial, but national characteristics. The former is discredited everywhere, but the latter persists all over the world in the elitist-driven hatred of the United States and its culture and people.

237 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:34:58am

re: #223 Peter Verkooijen

Peter,

You've been doing a lot. Kudos to you.

Intrepid,

Then you're right here by my side!

Killian,

Saudi Arabia is only our nominal ally. ONly. And much less than that!

Sleep tight, All. Mwah.

238 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:36:58am

re: #227 Peter Verkooijen

What's an eeyore?

Eeyore is a character from Winnie-The-Pooh stories who is always pessimistic and sad.

It's become a term for McCain supporters who want to give up because the poll numbers seem too bad, and 0bama seems to be the inevitable winner.

239 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:37:52am

G'night all!

240 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:38:13am

re: #236 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! 50/41 for McCain? Would that it were true. There would have to have been a complete meltdown of the polling industry for this to be true. Various lizards have cited some evidence for this, but we shall see.
One thing I do know: If McCain pulls it out in spite of polls and media hostility, moonbat heads will explode all over the world. Riots in certain areas are a certainty, and the long-term consequences would include a major boost for the conspiracy industry.

Could our media and academic elites be this wrong? I think they are and, in defense of that position, we can find many examples of the supposed intelligentsia of a country being completely, outrageously wrong. In the late 19th century, for example, academic elites in the west believed that material progress had eliminated the threat of large-scale war among the industrialized nations. At the same time, very few elitists, in the press or academia either one, questioned the prevailing racist and sexist assumptions of the time. In fact, academics in several fields were the driving force behind racism in many ways, at one point developing a kind of pseudo-science of not just racial, but national characteristics. The former is discredited everywhere, but the latter persists all over the world in the elitist-driven hatred of the United States and its culture and people.

I agree that riots will be prevalent. See Watts and the OJ stuff to get an idea, IMHO. I think his polling is likely more accurate: getting others from outside Dem strongholds like Manhattan, Seattle, etc. It would also explain, as the HCF poster said, why Obama is making Al Gore's head explode crossing the country in the jet. Why would he need to be in PA at all at this point?

241 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:39:07am

re: #229 gmsc

No problem. You really only need to say "Off Topic/OT" on threads with a particular theme. In an open thread, you can jump in with anything.

My Halloween videos post didn't exactly follow from previous conversation, either.

Misfits - Halloween

242 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:39:37am

re: #231 RTLM

Then grow a spine.
We may lose this election. We won't lose the country.

I'm used to standing alone in my opinions, as a pro-American capitalist in Amsterdam, as a Bush supporter in New York and now here as a frustrated Giuliani/Palin/McCain supporter trying to inject some realism and sense of urgency.

243 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:40:48am

re: #239 gmsc

Night gmsc, see you tomorrow. Weet dreams.

244 Sprite  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:42:29am

re: #242 Peter Verkooijen

See my # 237. No one has responded to that one, either.

Hold tight and g'night. If you dont' deign to respond.......whatever.

245 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:43:02am

re: #242 Peter Verkooijen

We have our own reality which isn't built up on what is fed the masses from the MSM. We listen to what the other people around us are saying, we parse the numbers given us and come to our own conclusions. What is often portrayed in the MSM has been shown to be lies or twists of what really is happening. So we don't need your brand of "reality" here. Now STFD and STFU eeyore.

246 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:45:40am

re: #245 BlueCanuck

We have our own reality which isn't built up on what is fed the masses from the MSM. We listen to what the other people around us are saying, we parse the numbers given us and come to our own conclusions. What is often portrayed in the MSM has been shown to be lies or twists of what really is happening. So we don't need your brand of "reality" here. Now STFD and STFU eeyore.

I'm not going by the poll numbers, but by what I know about education in the last four decades, how the media works, how urban 20/30-somethings think, what's going on in Europe, etc.

247 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:46:14am

Hi Everyone!

Mom voted for McCain! She is such a cutie. "Is Joe the plumber a real guy?" She asks.

/and to think that she loves Dr. Laura

248 Peter Verkooijen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:46:53am

re: #244 Sprite

Not sure how sarcastic you are, but g'night.

249 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:47:26am

re: #246 Peter Verkooijen

Obviously you are focusing on one area and one demographic too much. I do believe that you are missing the entire big picture. Ever hear of the pig and the python? Not all boomers are hopeless moonbats and hippies you know.

250 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:48:13am

Morning little blessing, that sounds like great news. How's things besides that?

251 RTLM  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:48:47am

re: #242 Peter Verkooijen

I'm used to standing alone in my opinions, as a pro-American capitalist in Amsterdam, as a Bush supporter in New York and now here as a frustrated Giuliani/Palin/McCain supporter trying to inject some realism and sense of urgency.

I don't know your background. But you need to think back to an accomplishment in your past that was out of reach, that you were successful at attaining.
Something just out of grasp to the point of failure - and reeled in.

Have faith.

That's what we do here.

(in our own special ways)

252 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:50:39am

re: #246 Peter Verkooijen

I'm not going by the poll numbers, but by what I know about education in the last four decades, how the media works, how urban 20/30-somethings think, what's going on in Europe, etc.

Not sure if you're aware of this, but WE ARE NOT EUROPE!

We are the United States of America, and we follow no other country in determining what is best for us.

Even if it is the "wisdom" of the media.

253 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:52:04am

re: #240 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I agree that riots will be prevalent. See Watts and the OJ stuff to get an idea, IMHO. I think his polling is likely more accurate: getting others from outside Dem strongholds like Manhattan, Seattle, etc. It would also explain, as the HCF poster said, why Obama is making Al Gore's head explode crossing the country in the jet. Why would he need to be in PA at all at this point?

Why indeed? Penn's in play and the polls don't mean squat.

254 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:59:41am

I have this feeling that fruitcup is close....

Almost upon us....so very close

255 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:59:49am

...waiting for fruitcup?

LOL?

256 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:59:58am

It's almost that magical time again.

257 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 1:59:59am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

258 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:00:26am

See what happens when you rush me!?

gah. :-(

259 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:00:45am

Thanks for the fruitcup littleoldlady. Good to see you once again.

260 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:01:04am

my latest evil tactic for dealing with Obamatrons.....

i live in an upscale part of the Valley, but i usually look like someone drug me through the hedge, because i just don't care and i'm a lazy baastid.

when i encounter one of the herd, via bumpersticker, shirt or button, i just go up and ask them for whatever spare cash they have, since it's obvious that they have more than i do, and their leader wants to redistribute things so that everything is fair........ if they're in the car and i'm driving my beater truck, i ask them if we can trade, since it's obvious that i deserve something better.

the looks i get are priceless, and more than one has gone into a spluttering rage, which only gets worse when i point out that this is only the stated policy of the guy they support. i then walk away laughing at them. %-)

261 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:01:07am

Fenway! :-)

BlueCanuck! :-)

Intrepid! :-)

262 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:01:24am

re: #257 littleoldlady
1:59:59 am. Your early.

263 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:01:30am

re: #258 littleoldlady

One measely second. Who cares?

/spoon in hand I am digging in.

264 Erik The Red  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:01:48am

re: #257 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

Thank you LoL. Have enjoyed many over the last few months. I mostly lurk and just wanted to say thanks.

265 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:02:02am

re: #256 BlueCanuck

It's almost that magical time again.

no: it's magical when the secret ingredients kick in...... %-)

/right about *now*

266 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:02:08am

re: #263 BlueCanuck

rancher, obviously. ;-)

So rancher...are you rancher today, or rancher, jr?

267 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:02:09am

I can set my clock by littleoldlady's fruitcup!

Todah, LOL!

268 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:02:25am

Good morning, lol. Thanks for the fruitcup.

269 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:02:33am

re: #260 redc1c4

Have I mentioned lately that you are an evil bastid?

/thank the lord above you are on our side.

270 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:02:41am

Erik The Red! :-)

Bon appetit!

271 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:03:15am

Sharmuta! :-)

How're we doing out there?

272 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:03:38am

re: #265 redc1c4

no: it's magical when the secret ingredients kick in...... %-)

/right about *now*

Why are the walls melting?

/oooh pretty, pretty colours. . . . . . .

273 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:03:59am

re: #260 redc1c4

Love ya, red!

274 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:04:07am

Fruitcup just before my shower! Be back in a little.

275 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:04:20am

re: #271 littleoldlady

Busy- I'm about to go again. I just came to see you.

276 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:04:24am

re: #266 littleoldlady

Son of Rancher hijacks my nick and gets more up-dings than all my posts combined. McCain wins NY my ass.

277 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:04:59am

I may yet have to bring the Fruitcupitron 3000 ® back from the scrap-heap.

278 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:05:01am

re: #250 BlueCanuck

Nothing much else is new. You seem quite fired up.

/remind me to never PYO ; ^)


{littleoldlady!}

279 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:06:00am

re: #265 redc1c4

no: it's magical when the secret ingredients kick in...... %-)

/right about *now*

You always spike the fruitcup, red.

/That's got to be some color of smoke!

280 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:06:31am

re: #276 rancher

Sorry Rancher, but he can win that bet!

Miracles happen!

281 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:07:14am

re: #252 Intrepid

Not sure if you're aware of this, but WE ARE NOT EUROPE!

We are the United States of America, and we follow no other country in determining what is best for us.

Even if it is the "wisdom" of the media.

"Flyover Country" is also not New York.

282 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:07:40am

re: #267 Intrepid

De rien! ;-)

/how do you say "you're welcome" in Hebrew?

283 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:07:58am

re: #243 BlueCanuck

Night gmsc, see you tomorrow. Weet dreams.

[...remembers fruitcup time...]
[...runs back in to grab fruitcup...]
[...leaves puzzle to remind everyone to vote by next tuesday...]

G'Night for real, this time!

[...goes back to bed...]

284 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:08:14am

re: #278 little blessing

Had to fill in for Sharmuta. :)

/and yes I do have a temper when I let it loose.
//just have to channel it in the right direction occassionally.

285 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:08:49am

Matrix! :-)

little blessing! :-)

286 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:09:15am

gmsc! :-)

287 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:09:25am

re: #278 little blessing

Nothing much else is new. You seem quite fired up.

/remind me to never PYO ; ^)

he's stoned too! %-)

{littleoldlady!}

288 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:10:08am

re: #276 rancher

You are probably right, but wouldn't it be nice to have a much closer race than predicted?

289 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:10:29am

re: #284 BlueCanuck

You did great!

290 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:11:09am

re: #280 little blessing

Like he said, best $20 I ever lost. It could happen, I am on record saying the Bradley effect will be huge.

Never give up, never surrender!

291 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:11:27am

re: #282 littleoldlady

"Toe Dah!"

292 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:13:00am

OK, Lizards- have a good one- I'll see you later!

293 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:13:30am

re: #282 littleoldlady

De rien! ;-)

/how do you say "you're welcome" in Hebrew?

Dunno - I just knew what "thank you" was from the show NCIS and the character who is supposed to be a Mossad agent.

294 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:15:18am

Bye Sharmuta. See you tomorrow, or later today. Depends on what I am doing. :)

295 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:16:02am

re: #291 little blessing

"Toe Dah!"

I knew that!

/senior moments are coming in like a tidal wave :-(

Thanks! :-)

296 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:16:11am

re: #279 Intrepid

You always spike the fruitcup, red.

/That's got to be some color of smoke!

as Koko Taylor sang: "It's a dirty j*b, but somebody's got to do it...."

when in doubt?
/white smoke!

297 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:16:42am

Take care, Sharmuta! :-)

298 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:17:36am

re: #294 BlueCanuck

Bye Sharmuta. See you tomorrow, or later today. Depends on what I am doing. :)

or who?

/white smoke

299 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:17:55am

re: #296 redc1c4

I thought that was Faith No More....

300 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:18:01am

re: #292 Sharmuta

OK, Lizards- have a good one- I'll see you later!

vaya con Elvis!

301 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:18:58am

re: #299 Fenway_Nation

I thought that was Faith No More....

i doubt they bring to the table what she does......

that woman can SING!

302 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:20:42am

re: #301 redc1c4


I'm more of an RL Burnside kind of guy....

303 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:21:40am

re: #295 littleoldlady

Actually, I think I'm having a senior moment!

Toe dah = Thank You

b'va kasha = You're Welcome

/dictionary is my friend

304 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:22:55am

re: #303 little blessing

I knew that, too.

/sheesh
//okay, which one of you removed the caffeine from my coffee?!
///musta had red's fruitcup...

305 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:24:09am

re: #304 littleoldlady

All of the above?

/that guy gets into everything.
//must have been a scrounger par exellence in his 11b days.

306 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:24:26am

Wait, little blessing.

Isn't b'va kasha = if you please?

/memories of "sheket, b'va kasha!" from every single Hebrew school teacher I ever had...

307 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:26:09am

If there are any lurking Israelis out there...

Could you kindly come forward and help this language and memory impaired Jew?

TIA!

308 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:26:10am

The King of Speed

/don't mess with Pinky

309 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:27:53am

re: #308 Killian Bundy

If I only had a brain.

310 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:31:54am

re: #305 BlueCanuck

All of the above?

/that guy gets into everything.
//must have been a scrounger par exellence in his 11b days.

three different units put me in the supply room so that the master could keep the amateurs at bay...... %-)

311 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:34:05am

re: #302 Fenway_Nation

I'm more of an RL Burnside kind of guy....

i'll check him out later.......
but it doesn't matter who's singing'em: the blues are the truth.

312 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:39:35am

whoops!

who knew a blues comment would kill the thread?

313 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:41:15am

Dead thread blues....

314 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:41:39am

Faith Hill sings the National Anthem....

A nice wake up for a Wednesday morning...

315 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:41:51am

re: #312 redc1c4

Every body is still recovering from your *special* ingredients.

/oh what a crash it's going to be

316 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:43:51am
317 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:44:48am

re: #314 Intrepid

Faith Hill sings the National Anthem....

A nice wake up for a Wednesday morning...

i thought the National Anthem came at the end of the broadcast day......

not that Obanal will have it played anymore when he's anointed next January.

/grey eeyore smoke %-)

318 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:46:22am

re: #317 redc1c4

One thing I know you are not, and that's an eeyore. Everything else but that.

/well, we can remove moby and troll from that list as well too.

319 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:50:48am

Hey no blues allowed!

/only eeyores get blue!

320 nnorb  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:50:56am

re: #308 Killian Bundy

The King of Speed

/don't mess with Pinky


Way back when I used to be an Air Traffic Controller at Jacksonville enroute center. When we got an SR-71 for the 5 or 6 blips going across our screen, we always tried to get them to tell us their altitude. At the time it was classified. So... we would state "Aspen 20, say altitude." Like clock work their response was always the same. "Jax Center we are well above all visible traffic." Then two blips later they were gone.

Thanks for the Memories!

321 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:51:42am

re: #319 little blessing

"No body gets out of here before they sing the blues"

/adventures in babysitting. :)
//great blues sequence too.

322 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:52:05am

Is it just me or does Purina One Kitten Chow have a really foul odor when it hits the litter box?

/No Country Nuts For Old Men Kitten Bill, Friday

323 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:55:19am

Slash does both anthems - and very well I might add!

Oh Canada!

324 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:55:34am

SR-71, A-10, and F-22. Is this a great country or what?

325 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:55:45am

re: #322 Killian Bundy

Beats me. I stopped cleaning the litter box when I was pregnant.

/doctor's orders

Twenty + years later...what can I say? Some men CAN be trained! ;-)

326 NC State of Mind  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:56:07am

re: #321 BlueCanuck

"No body gets out of here before they sing the blues"

/adventures in babysitting. :)
//great blues sequence too.

Good morning Lizards! I was thinking about that movie yesterday. There was a strategist on Fox who looked like a grown up version of the main male character. BTW, whatever happened to Elizabeth Shue? She was a hottie. "Don't f*ck with the babysitter!"

327 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:57:04am

re: #324 rancher

SR-71, A-10, and F-22. Is this a great country or what?

/for another week

328 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:58:22am

re: #317 redc1c4

i thought the National Anthem came at the end of the broadcast day......

not that Obanal will have it played anymore when he's anointed next January.

/grey eeyore smoke %-)

In the absence of Mandy, *WHACK*

It's not over yet! No late night eeyores here! *WHACK* again....

329 rancher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 2:58:52am

re: #327 Killian Bundy
Eeyore!

330 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:00:54am

re: #328 Intrepid

In the absence of Mandy, *WHACK*

It's not over yet! No late night eeyores here! *WHACK* again....

thank you sir, may i have another......

if all they ever offer you is a stick, after awhile it starts to look like a carrot.

(another one of my observations on poor management techniques. %-)

331 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:02:23am

re: #330 redc1c4

Heh, you should have observed more, because I'm not a "sir". I'm a "madam".

Heh.

/smoke color?

332 Killian Bundy  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:03:07am

re: #329 rancher

Eeyore!

What are you going to do?

/reality meeting face

333 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:04:56am

Good Morning all.

334 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:05:16am

Keep the faith, folks. We're gonna win this, even though the MSM polls say otherwise.

If I turn out to be wrong, so what. I'll at least go down with my dignity.

Goodnight, all!

335 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:07:24am

'Morning, opnion!

'Night, Intrepid!

/people come and go so quickly here...

336 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:07:51am

re: #324 rancher

SR-71, A-10, and F-22. Is this a great country or what?

In his book, Sled Driver, SR-71 Blackbird pilot Brian Shul writes: "I'll always remember a certain radio exchange that occurred one day as Walt (my backseater) and I were screaming across Southern California, 13 miles high. We were monitoring various radio transmissions from other aircraft as we entered Los Angeles airspace. Though they didn't really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope. I heard a Cessna ask for a readout of its groundspeed."

"90 knots" Center replied.

"Moments later, a Twin Beech required the same."

"120 knots," Center answered.

"We weren't the only ones proud of our groundspeed that day as almost instantly an F-18 smugly transmitted, 'Ah, Center, Dusty 52 requests groundspeed readout.'

"There was a slight pause, then the response, 525 knots on the ground, Dusty".

"Another silent pause. As I was thinking to myself how ripe a situation this was, I heard a familiar click of a radio transmission coming from my backseater. It was at that precise moment I realized Walt and I had become a real crew, for we were both thinking in unison." "Center, Aspen 20, you got a groundspeed readout for us?"

There was a longer than normal pause.... "Aspen, I show 1,742 knots"

"No further inquiries were heard on that frequency"

In another famous SR-71 story, Los Angeles Center reported receiving a request for clearance to FL 60 (60,000ft).

The incredulous controller, with some disdain in his voice, asked, "How do you plan to get up to 60,000 feet?"

"The pilot (obviously a sled driver), responded, "We don't plan to go up to it, we plan to go down to it."

He was cleared...

337 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:10:03am

One of the two Neo-Nazis busted for plotting to kill African-Americans listed his profession on his My Space page as 'Racist"
The two of them drove around in a car decorated with Swastikas.
Wonder how they got noticed.

338 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:11:27am

re: #335 littleoldlady

'Morning, opnion!

'Night, Intrepid!

/people come and go so quickly here...

add me to the list.... the diphenhydramine is kicking in, and i've got schise to get done come daylight.

hasta, y'all.....

L8r!

339 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:12:14am

re: #337 opnion

One of the two Neo-Nazis busted for plotting to kill African-Americans listed his profession on his My Space page as 'Racist"
The two of them drove around in a car decorated with Swastikas.
Wonder how they got noticed.

duh! racial profiling, of course........

/idiots

340 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:14:08am

'Night, red.:-)

re: #337 opnion

You know...it's not funny. But THAT part of the story is!

341 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:15:24am

re: #339 redc1c4

duh! racial profiling, of course........

/idiots


Neither one of thes guys had theit Mensa applications lost in the mail.
They just were never sent.

342 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:17:07am

Morning all.
Any predictions on what the One will say tonight?
I can't imagine anyone listening to this bozo for thirty full minutes. Even if he sang.

343 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:20:28am

re: #342 Jim in Virginia

Morning all.
Any predictions on what the One will say tonight?
I can't imagine anyone listening to this bozo for thirty full minutes. Even if he sang.

Tap dance?

/why not? He's been doing it the entire election.

{My Rove!}

Somebody's going to have to fill me in tomorrow, next week, someday...

344 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:20:38am

*mutter mutter* Had to step away from the desk for a bit.

Night red, intrepid.

345 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:20:51am

re: #342 Jim in Virginia

Morning all.
Any predictions on what the One will say tonight?
I can't imagine anyone listening to this bozo for thirty full minutes. Even if he sang.

One half hour of this narcissism would be too much to endure. He might say. "I must be about my fathers business."

346 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:25:48am

re: #345 opnion

One half hour of this narcissism would be too much to endure. He might say. "I must be about my fathers business."

Fuck him. I'm gonna be watching my Suns play the Spurs.

347 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:27:19am

I think there's two or three innings of a ball game that may, or may not, be played.

/a rainy mess! :-(

348 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:30:22am

Quiet in here, almost tooo quiet.


/cue spooky music.

349 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:30:26am

re: #347 littleoldlady

I think there's two or three innings of a ball game that may, or may not, be played.

/a rainy mess! :-(

What's the weather like there at the moment?

350 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:33:16am

re: #349 TheMatrix31

Dark.

351 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:33:34am

*groan* Currently 1° C here and calling for snow. Supposed to get up to 5° today. I want my global warming. :(

352 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:33:41am

Is this election going to the courts after the vote, this time with Republicans callenging for fraud in Ohio etc?

353 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:35:21am

re: #351 BlueCanuck

Tomorrow's forcast: Storms and 28` C

354 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:35:54am

re: #353 little blessing

forcast=forecast

/diphenhydramine

355 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:35:58am

re: #353 little blessing

You're in Australia right?

356 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:36:09am

re: #349 TheMatrix31

It's not supposed to rain tonight. (20% chance) But MAN is it going to be cold!

/watching baseball in a snowsuit...
//something is wrong with that picture

357 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:36:13am

Good morning, Lizards.

358 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:36:27am

Hello from Germany where I'm prepping my Halloween pumpkins, I carved one last year with a Pumpkin Master's kit, my German neighbors were astounded. One even asked me how I did it, I got her a kit this year.

359 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:36:43am

re: #350 littleoldlady

Dark.

Don't be racist!

And for those of you complaining about cold, I'll switch my position here in LA any day. I want cold weather and rain/snow. Badly.

360 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:36:46am

re: #355 BlueCanuck

Right!

361 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:36:47am

Good morning goddess, welcome to the dead thread.

362 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:37:55am

re: #359 TheMatrix31

Don't be racist!

And for those of you complaining about cold, I'll switch my position here in LA any day. I want cold weather and rain/snow. Badly.

Haven't had a Great Lakes winter for awhile have you? You would be changing your tune real quick. :)

363 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:39:23am

My Warmblut mare oh yeah, and my kid, too.

364 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:39:40am

FNC now covering the impact of the Illegal Immigrant vote on this election. Oh that's just swell.

365 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:40:20am

re: #362 BlueCanuck

Haven't had a Great Lakes winter for awhile have you? You would be changing your tune real quick. :)

Never, actually.

I can handle it, trust me.

366 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:42:17am

re: #365 TheMatrix31

Never, actually.

I can handle it, trust me.

*snerk* Riggggghhhhttttt. If it's not in your blood . . . . .. .

367 Crux Australis  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:42:36am

What's the approximate average Dec/Jan max. temperature for LA? 65F? 70F?

368 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:42:44am

re: #366 BlueCanuck

*snerk* Riggggghhhhttttt. If it's not in your blood . . . . .. .

I haven't ALWAYS lived in Los Angeles :)

369 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:42:53am

re: #346 TheMatrix31


Yea- fuck that shit! I'll be watching my Red Sox take on the................

/just now setting in.

370 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:43:13am

re: #364 opnion

Illegal Immigrant vote? What about the homeless vote?!?

Can't let it get you down!

/or I'll call out the Eeyore Bashing Brigade

371 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:43:53am

{Blue Canusk}

INTERESTING OBSERVATION:

I have a FaceBook page where I kep in touch with friends and former students.

Obama's "redistribution of wealth" may be the tipping point among college kids.

One of them has just given another a McCain/Palin "button" with the note, "Because I don't want to be poor."

Today's Generation X is not the 60's generation.

372 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:44:21am

re: #368 TheMatrix31

Where did you used to winter then?

373 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:44:22am

re: #370 little blessing

Illegal Immigrant vote? What about the homeless vote?!?

Can't let it get you down!

/or I'll call out the Eeyore Bashing Brigade

Uno tiene que ser cuidadano para votar? De cual pais? :)

374 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:45:12am

re: #373 imploder

No habla espaniol!

375 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:45:37am

goddess! ;-)

imploder! :-)

re: #352 opnion

Is this election going to the courts after the vote, this time with Republicans callenging for fraud in Ohio etc?

Okay, here's the thing: Even without the overload of knowledge that we here at LGF have garnered, I don't believe Obama passes "the smell test" with most Americans. If this was a "regular" election, McCain would win, and that would be that.

But it's obviously not. There are 3 unknowns that could effect the outcome:
1. The college kid vote
2. Election/registration fraud
3. How many people have been discouraged from voting for McCain by the Dewey camp and their media compliciots.

So, yes, it may be that close, and it may be litigated.

376 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:46:06am

re: #374 little blessing

No habla espaniol!

Ha ha! I said, "you have to be a citizen to vote? A citizen of which country?"

377 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:46:42am

re: #359 TheMatrix31

Don't be racist!

And for those of you complaining about cold, I'll switch my position here in LA any day. I want cold weather and rain/snow. Badly.

Socialist?

Oh, oh! Have I got some weather for you!

/come and get it! PLEASE

378 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:46:52am

re: #372 BlueCanuck

Where did you used to winter then?

Fresno. No snow, but I remember highs being in the 40s and 50s and lows being in the 30s and 20s. Not brutally Canadian-cold, but I loved it nonetheless. At least there was wind, rain, hail, fog, frosts, freezes, etc.

I miss it. Rain is my passion.

379 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:47:22am

re: #375 littleoldlady

"Smell Test".

Yup, it reeks all the way across the pacific.

/Yet, there are some people who have no sense of smell.

380 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:47:48am

re: #378 TheMatrix31

...

I miss it. Rain is my passion.

You should consider vacationing in Rhineland-Pfalz from about mid-October through March/April.

381 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:47:56am

re: #370 little blessing

Illegal Immigrant vote? What about the homeless vote?!?

Can't let it get you down!

/or I'll call out the Eeyore Bashing Brigade

Actually, I can see the argument for the Homeless, they are citizens.
I do have a tough time with the concept of the Illegal Immigrant vote.
My favorite comment of all time was a sociologist on the radio referring to 'Undocumented Citizens." Citizens?

382 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:48:16am

re: #379 little blessing

"Smell Test".

Yup, it reeks all the way across the pacific.

/Yet, there are some people who have no sense of smell.

Nobody forces you to think in America.

/it's a problem...

383 Erik The Red  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:49:39am

re: #362 BlueCanuck

I spent the first 16 years of my life in Cleveland. Moved to S. Africa and have been here for the last 24 years. I never and I mean NEVER want to see snow again. I am returning to the US next year with my young family in the middle of next year and will be settling down south.

384 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:49:42am

re: #381 opnion

Actually, I can see the argument for the Homeless, they are citizens.
I do have a tough time with the concept of the Illegal Immigrant vote.
My favorite comment of all time was a sociologist on the radio referring to 'Undocumented Citizens." Citizens?

I had to explain to my daughter (she goes to a government school) that the act of entering the country illegally is a crime. She's in fifth grade and they are getting more into social studies. They were comparing McCain/Obama policies on illegals.

385 Dasher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:49:55am

re: #367 Crux Australis

What's the approximate average Dec/Jan max. temperature for LA? 65F? 70F?

Yep... around 66 for Jan 69 for Dec.

386 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:50:09am

re: #378 TheMatrix31

lows in the 30's and 20's? That's not winter, that's a cold fall. Lows can get down to -20° C. I have seen temps below -40 at times as well.

387 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:50:10am

re: #355 BlueCanuck

You're in Australia right?

Two nations separated by a common language!


hehehe :)

388 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:50:12am

re: #381 opnion

Problem is the address.

/how many people can claim the same bench?

All kidding aside, its a very sad situation.

389 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:51:08am

re: #387 Aussie Infidel

Hi Aussie!

/What are you paying for Petrol in Sydney?

390 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:51:14am

re: #375 littleoldlady

goddess! ;-)

imploder! :-)


Okay, here's the thing: Even without the overload of knowledge that we here at LGF have garnered, I don't believe Obama passes "the smell test" with most Americans. If this was a "regular" election, McCain would win, and that would be that.

But it's obviously not. There are 3 unknowns that could effect the outcome:
1. The college kid vote
2. Election/registration fraud
3. How many people have been discouraged from voting for McCain by the Dewey camp and their media compliciots.

So, yes, it may be that close, and it may be litigated.

If the election turns on Ohio, I think that the Republicans should litigatre like crazy. These Acorn people are making a mockery of thr process.

391 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:52:27am

re: #390 opnion

They are being investigated (or is it sued?) here in Pennsylvania, too.

392 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:52:31am

re: #383 Erik The Red

I hear you. Lived most of my life just west of Georgian Bay and all my life near a shore of a Great Lake. Snow looks pretty for the first week. After that it's the ninth circle of hell.

393 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:52:54am

re: #386 BlueCanuck

lows in the 30's and 20's? That's not winter, that's a cold fall. Lows can get down to -20° C. I have seen temps below -40 at times as well.

What's that in Fahrenheit ;)

394 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:53:26am

re: #388 little blessing

Problem is the address.

/how many people can claim the same bench?

All kidding aside, its a very sad situation.

There was a time when you had to own property to vote. In a way it made sense because property owners are vested, they have an interest in the outcomes of elections.

Ever since we began evaluating "social" outcomes it has gone downhill ever since, and now we are letting people claim cardboard boxes and park benches as addresses. I mean, c'mon, they have succombed so far to their own condition that they don't even have an address, but we'll let them vote. See, we're really an egalitarian country.

395 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:53:39am

re: #389 little blessing

Hi Aussie!

/What are you paying for Petrol in Sydney?

Actually I'm currently in Auckland New Zealand although Sydney was my home town. A few weeks ago if I remember it was A$1.71 for standard grade per litre!

I'll leave it up to you to figure the US / Aussie exchange rates and the conversion from litres to US gallons!

396 Dasher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:54:02am

re: #381 opnion

Actually, I can see the argument for the Homeless, they are citizens.

Actually they MAY be citizens.

Being homeless, is not a criteria to vote. Being a citizen of the US, and being of age 18 or higher is the criteria. Another criteria is being a resident of the precinct you live in. If were you live is on a park bench OK, provided you are a citizen and of age.

397 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:55:17am

re: #393 TheMatrix31

What's that in Fahrenheit ;)

-20 is about 0 in Farenheit. -40 is the same.

398 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:55:40am

re: #391 littleoldlady

They are being investigated (or is it sued?) here in Pennsylvania, too.


It seems like Acorn is always under "investigation." Where are the indictments & how come they keep getting taxpayer money?
Voter fraud is a felony. Acorn fits the definition of a criminal enterprise.

399 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:55:40am

re: #395 Aussie Infidel

Actually I'm currently in Auckland New Zealand although Sydney was my home town. A few weeks ago if I remember it was A$1.71 for standard grade per litre!

I'll leave it up to you to figure the US / Aussie exchange rates and the conversion from litres to US gallons!

Benzin bleifrei (unleaded) here in Germany is down to about six bucks a gallon from a high of around nine or ten bucks a gallon in July.

400 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:56:31am

Well folks it's almost the witching hour and I'm just 5 minutes from being in Thursday morning.


G'nite all lizards


:

401 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:57:24am

Night Aussie, have yourself a good sleep. Enjoy your summer night.

402 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:57:35am

re: #400 Aussie Infidel

Well folks it's almost the witching hour and I'm just 5 minutes from being in Thursday morning.


G'nite all lizards


:

{Aussie Infidel}

Sleep well!

403 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:57:53am

re: #397 BlueCanuck

-20 is about 0 in Farenheit. -40 is the same.

I could deal with 0s.

Been up to Mammoth Mountain here in California with my buddies a couple of times and lows got that low. I was able to take it. Just had to bundle up a good bit, but I don't mind that. You can always do something about the cold but you can't do anything about the heat.

404 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:58:10am

re: #399 imploder

... and you drive the new model 911 Porsche and have a private oil well to run it?


Cheers

405 Dasher  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:58:59am

re: #403 TheMatrix31

For cold -- bundle up
For heat - cold beer

406 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 3:59:15am

re: #402 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks hun.

See you lot on the flipside


Hey look!

It's Thursday already!

407 opnion  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:00:11am

Gotta get ready to go to work. I wonder If Obama get get me a day off on 11/4.
later.

408 imploder  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:00:51am

re: #404 Aussie Infidel

... and you drive the new model 911 Porsche and have a private oil well to run it?


Cheers

Haha! I drive a Volvo V50 (that some asshole doordinged with a vengence a couple of days ago).

Fortunately, as an expat I can buy gub'ment gas on the US military base. The price I was quoting is on the economy. I wonder how my German friends can do it. Most of their cost is in taxes. They get raked over in taxes on everything.

409 Crux Australis  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:02:38am

re: #389 little blessing

I saw petrol/gas for $1.35/litre at a reasonably cheap service station on the outskirts of Sydney.

Not sure what it coverts to in US dollars/gallon

410 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:03:21am

Night dudes.

411 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:03:28am

re: #409 Crux Australis

$1.33 AUS in Melbourne.

/Hey kids, we can drive to school tomorrow!

412 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:03:47am

Night Matrix.

413 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:04:22am

Got to go...have a GREAT day!

414 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:04:40am

Night Matrix. Weet dreams.

415 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:05:32am

re: #409 Crux Australis
Currently we are at $0.97 a litre CAD. Not too bad.

re: #413 goddessoftheclassroom

Bye goddess, you have a GREAT day too.

416 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:07:07am

U.S. study says doctors subconsciously favor whites

They must be McCain voters. ;p

/drive by

417 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:08:19am

re: #407 opnion

Gotta get ready to go to work. I wonder If Obama get get me a day off on 11/4.
later.

If the Ø were to win, it could probably make the entire job disappear.

418 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:11:01am

re: #282 littleoldlady

De rien! ;-)

/how do you say "you're welcome" in Hebrew?

Bevakasha

419 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:13:48am

Now they're trying to tie up the margarita vote: Jimmy Buffet is giving a concert for BHO on Sunday.

420 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:14:54am

re: #419 MandyManners

Now they're trying to tie up the margarita vote: Jimmy Buffet is giving a concert for BHO on Sunday.


Good morning Mandy! I see we are both watching FNC...you sippin coffee?

421 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:16:31am

Bye all who are leaving...

Moi aussi/ani kayn (Moe Katz?)

Good day, ALL!™

422 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:17:19am

re: #421 littleoldlady

Bye littleoldlady, may your phillies do well today. See you tomorrow at fruitcupping.

423 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:17:21am

Good morning Little Old Lady! How are you on this fine day?

424 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:18:18am

re: #421 littleoldlady

Bye all who are leaving...

Moi aussi/ani kayn (Moe Katz?)

Good day, ALL!™

Gam ani. But that's it. That's all the Hebrew I remember.

425 little blessing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:18:44am

G'day Lizards. I'm out of here too.

/Blue, you and Sharmuta are in charge of the EBB (eeyore bash brigade)

426 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:19:02am

re: #420 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Good morning Mandy! I see we are both watching FNC...you sippin coffee?

Suckin' up English Breakfast.

427 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:19:24am

Good morning ladies (bows) and gentlemen (nods).

428 Moe Katz  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:20:07am

re: #421 littleoldlady

Bye all who are leaving...

Moi aussi/ani kayn (Moe Katz?)

Good day, ALL!™

You can come to my bar mitzvah if you like. I'm 58, or will be on the occasion. There will be a kiddush catered at my expense.

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:21:00am

re: #426 MandyManners

Suckin' up English Breakfast.

My breakfast is a bit more, shall we say, "Continental". (read hotel lobby)

430 littleoldlady  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:21:09am

The Pulchritudinous Patriot! :-) HI!

BlueCanuck! :-) BYE!

re: #424 Moe Katz

Gam ani. But that's it. That's all the Hebrew I remember.

All the time I spent studying Hebrew and French...I can understand MAYBE every third word. :-(

But ask me to curse in (archaic) Hungarian, and I'm golden!

/NOT a well behaved child ;-)

431 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:21:22am

re: #426 MandyManners

Suckin' up English Breakfast.

Sounds good! I love tea, it makes me feel all cozy. In the mornings I need my coffee and chicory!

432 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:21:40am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My breakfast is a bit more, shall we say, "Continental". (read hotel lobby)

I hate hotel lobbies in the fall/winter. Coldest indoor places in the universe.

433 MandyManners  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:22:15am

re: #431 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sounds good! I love tea, it makes me feel all cozy. In the mornings I need my coffee and chicory!

Is chicory a Louisiana/Southern thing?

434 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 4:22:39am

re: #430 littleoldlady

The Pulchritudinous Patriot! :-) HI!

BlueCanuck! :-) BYE!


All the time I spent studying Hebrew and French...I can understand MAYBE every third word. :-(

But ask me to curse in (archaic) Hungarian, and I'm golden!

/NOT a well behaved child ;-)


I want to learn how to speak Italian and Yiddish....Oy Vey is the only word I know in Yiddish.

435