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Open | Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:44:22 pm PDT

And if I laugh at any mortal thing,
’Tis that I may not weep.

Lord Byron

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1 tommygum  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:46:24pm

McCain/Palin '08.

2 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:46:25pm

Quiet.

Too quiet.

3 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:46:37pm

Woot! LGF running much faster now.

4 captwfcall  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:47:30pm

i want Tuesday to be here already. where's the Delorean when you need it?

'88 miles an hour!'

5 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:47:52pm

re: #3 Intrepid

Woot! LGF running much faster now.

Maybe Lord Senator Government decided to call off the dogs?

(Has there been a better political slip than "Senator Government"?)

6 The Archivist  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:48:12pm

Had to come back. This over at Hillbuzz should keep you talking a bit through the night. The post on the Florida voting at that site is also interesting:

[Link: hillbuzz.wordpress.com...]

"We’re utterly fascinated by this.

In 2004, we don’t remember hearing about anyone scared Kerry was going to take their guns away - and we worked Pennsylvania for Kerry (Pittsburgh area). There were a lot of gun shops and firing ranges there, and we never heard anything about people stocking up on guns because they were scared Kerry was going to try to take them away.

Obama is perceived as more liberal than Kerry, and in fact the most liberal Democrat that’s run for president in as long as anyone can remember. Biden as VP makes this the most liberal ticket that Democrats have ever fielded. There is nothing about it that puts the bitter, gun-and-relgion-people-who-are-apathetic-to-those- not-like-them living in Pennsylvania at ease.

Absolutely nothing.

In fact, the thought of Obama becoming president freaks these people out. So much so that they’re stocking up on firearms.

We just don’t see how this can bode well for Obama. These are “Reagan Democrats” and Republicans. They’re Clinton Democrats too. And they recoil at the thought of an Obama administration.

Have you ever heard of anything like this? We checked, and can’t see any evidence of this in past elections — where the Democrat so freaked rural, working class, sportsman types out that they felt compelled to stock up on weapons to protect themselves.

We think this is a piece of a larger puzzle…one that’s becoming much more clear as we inch closer to November 4th:

(1) Democrats like us at HillBuzz are working with Republicans for the first time in our lives to elect John McCain/Sarah Palin because we do not like or trust Obama/Biden.

(2) Hillary Democrats not openly working for McCain are silently voting for him — and voting Republican for the first time in their lives in most cases.

(3) Early voting has not met Obama’s expectations — Republicans are tied or ahead in most states, and nowhere is Obama enjoying blowout advantages he claimed he’d have.

(4) In all states, there is a marked “enthusiasm gap” between support for Obama and support remembered for Kerry in 2004 or Gore in 2000…lack of yard signs, stickers, posters, and excitement to vote for Obama, despite what the media claims.

(5) Gun owners afraid of Obama, and stocking up on weapons because they are that freaked out by the thought of anyone voting for him.

We’d love your thoughts on that last one, as we think it could be a cultural barometer like the Family Circle cookie baking contest or Halloween mask sales — something that shows a large scale cultural like or dislike of a candidate.

All of these anecdotal signs point to a McCain win…with those gun sales being the most fascinating of all.

Because those gun owners are the heart of the country. If Obama hasn’t won them over, and instead seems to have driven them away, screaming, then we just don’t see how he wins."

7 blackpajamas  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:49:14pm

A tribute to the the L.A. Times --
All the news that's fit to print, on the bumper sticker of a dung beetle.

8 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:49:57pm

I just checked out DailyKos (ugh) some of them are panicking pretty good since their in house poll is down to 50-44 lol

9 Karridine  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:50:34pm

re: #655 jcm

Should have result in a life time ban from Starbucks, extortion not allowed.


I can see it IF the Starbuck's employee was wired to the rafters, snootful of snow or amped on amphetamines, and he waltzed her HOT coffee over an flamboyantly SPLASHED IT ALL OVER HER, but how can a company serving HOT DRINKS protect themselves from extrotional stuff like this?

/serve only tepid drinks?
/serve hot, but require a controlled cool-down?
/refuse service to morons?
/post huge posters explaining "Coffee is hot. You spill? You PAY!"
/requiring signed, notarized personal responsibility waivers EVERY CUP, EVERY TIME?

10 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:50:37pm

Lord Byron, as featured in this "Un" wiki on Syphalis.

Enjoy!

11 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:50:38pm

Good evening, Lizards! How are we doing tonight?

12 jainphx  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:50:43pm

All I know is I'm voting for McCain/Palin and any other Republican on the ballot. This world is slipping away from us, we must forget this teach a lesson crap, and vote like it's the last election, because it just might be.

13 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:50:45pm

re: #3 Intrepid

Woot! LGF running much faster now.

Yea, becuase there are only 5 1/2 users on right now. I can barely get in during the daytime anymore.

14 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:51:03pm

re: #4 captwfcall

And if I laugh at any mortal thing,
’Tis that I may not weep.

— Lord Byron

I'm the same way about Chicago's corruption. I always laugh and make jokes about it, but only to disguise to fact that it pains me so.

15 pat  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:51:03pm

Black Muslim Model = Obama Civilian Military Corps. Yep. odinga redux.

16 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:51:12pm

From the sidebar.

Congo soldiers fleeing Goma along with refugees

Personally, I can't wait until all the world's armies are disbanded and the UN is responsible for

my

safety, too.

Good thing the UN is against private gun ownership. Someone could get hurt over there.

17 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:51:26pm

It's in the bag, all the polls say so. The election is just a formality.

18 Mr. E. Train  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:51:28pm

And if I laugh at any mortal thing,
’Tis that I may not weep.

— Lord Byron

I have a crazy eyed cousin named Scott. He tends to laugh the more pissed off and flusted he gets. Ive been on work sights with him when some really fubar'd problem comes up.... He starts giggling like a mad man, grabs a hammer and just starts whacking at the thing. Funny and frightening at the same time.

But the best was when an exposed wire shot off a three foot spark that zapped him on his bald spot. God I laughed my ass off!

19 blackpajamas  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:52:03pm

____[ The Second Drubbing ]____

Polling and polling in the widening gyre
The puppet cannot heed the puppeteer;
Things fall apart; the Left cannot hold;
Cold reality runs forth upon the ballot,
The Red-state tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of incompetence runs a-ground;
The best vote with conviction, while the worst
Exit-poll full of passionate futility.

Surely some ballot castigation is at hand;
Surely swings the Drubbing's pimp-slap hand
The Second Drubbing! Hearty clarions ring
Exposing their economic Lusus Naturae
Crushing their prize; entitlement wasteland;
A shape with Oliphant body and the head of a nation,
A determined grin warm and tireless as the sun,
Motivates the steady surprise, while about it
Media wind whips forward the Main Stream herd.
The margins drop again; but now we know
The thirty one city-states awoken from sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by Socialist cradle,
And what rough beast, its delivery bound fast,
Convulses in battle-ground states, aborted at last!

20 The Archivist  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:52:16pm

re: #7 blackpajamas

A tribute to the the L.A. Times --
All the news that's fit to print, on the bumper sticker of a dung beetle.

I had one of those back in the 60s. Would start every time. Great heater.

21 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:52:27pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

Sorry about the bad use of quotes there. I goofed.

PIMF

22 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:52:36pm
And if I laugh at any mortal thing,
’Tis that I may not weep.

— Lord Byron

That's heavy. Did he have a personal problem with a small penis?

23 Last Mohican  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:52:49pm

Hey, for all you coffee spillers who have made it over from the last thread, may I present to you Starbucks' arch-nemesis, the website that's going to make you richer than in your wildest dreams:

[Link: www.whocanisue.com...]

24 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:53:26pm

re: #6 The Archivist

Not to rain on anyone's parade but if Pennsylvania is real close why aren't the polls even showing a trace of competitiveness? The closest on on RCP is 7%. I wouldn't hold my breath for Pennsylvania.

25 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:54:14pm

More stuff from HillBuzz:

McC winning surprise states

Tonight’s been a busy night, in that we’ve talked to a half dozen people on three times as many subjects - including Team Hillary members in New Hampshire and Maine, who we know well from the primaries.

Here’s the kicker: these people aren’t McCain supporters. Several are working for Obama now in both states, because they have political jobs and thus must tow the party line. Others are voting Green and no longer campaigning for anyone, but are tuned into things in their states.

We know nothing about New Hampshire or Maine and have never pretended to. We won’t start now. All we’ll tell you is what these people told us tonight, and it’s that they truly do expect John McCain to win both New Hampshire and Maine next week, for the reasons they gave below:

(1) In both states, they have never seen an enthusiasm deficit for Democrats like this. Hillary Democrats there say there are more “closet McCain supporters” than anyone can count. Despite what the media says, people are not enthused and fired up to go out and vote for Obama — quite the contrary: people are scare of Obama’s policies and will be voting McCain. The enthusiasm deficit in both New Hampshire and Maine is “as clear as day” according to those we spoke to tonight. They say they do not see anywhere near the level of Obama signs, stickers, buttons, etc. out this year, as they did Kerry, Gore, Clinton, and even Dukakis gear in years past. They say this is actually shocking, because it should be everywhere, but no one cares enough to put those signs out. No one can use the excuse that there’s not enough money for signs and stickers: Obama’s campaign is supposedly rolling in dough, so why aren’t New Hampshire and Maine blanketed in Obama signs? Because people don’t want them in their yards and won’t be voting for him.

(2) We asked why people in these states are not voting for Obama and were told that in Maine, especially, a lot of it has to do with Joe the Plumber and redistributing the wealth. Much of Maine makes its living off the sea: fishermen pull in $200,000 or more a year in family businesses. Joe Biden’s slip that Obama really intends to define “wealthy” as $150,000 a year or above sent terror through Maine’s fishing community and other small business industries. We were told tonight that Maine and New Hampshire have more small family businesses that would be affected by Obama’s redistribution of wealth than we could imagine. Joe the Plumber resonated with these people — especially the fishermen. Todd Palin was recently dispatched to Maine in what the media claimed was an attempt to score one electoral college vote for Maine: tonight we were told it looks like McCain will win the whole state, not just that one congessional district.

(3) Sarah Palin was the smartest move John McCain could ever have made — she is playing incredibly well in Maine and New Hampshire, two states made up of mostly small towns, all of whom are outdoorsy and have traditions of female mayors, council members, and other high elected officials. Maine has two female United States Senators. That honestly never occured to us until now, but it does make a lot of sense. We knew Hillary Clinton would never win Iowa in the primaries because Iowa’s never elected a woman to high office — Maine has. Many, many times. People relate to Palin and trust John McCain. They like these candidates — while Obama in an unknown whose relationships and judgment make people uneasy. Add the socialism business to the top of this, and we’re told it moves New Hampshire and Maine into the red column.

26 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:55:02pm

From the last thread:

(Sung to the tune of "Hosanna" from "Jesus Christ Superstar")

O-bama
Hey bama bama bama O-bama
Hey bama O-bama
Hey BO, BO, please don't go
bama O-bama
Hey Superstar

OBAMA:
Why waste your breath moaning at the crowd?
Nothing can be done to stop the voting.
If every tongue were stilled
The noise would still continue.
The dead and cartoons themselves would start to vote!

27 tster  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:55:08pm

re: #24 middlecon

because the polls are broken?

28 The Archivist  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:55:25pm

re: #19 blackpajamas

re: #15 pat

Black Muslim Model = Obama Civilian Military Corps. Yep. odinga redux.

It's the "Odinga redux" leading up to, or immediately after a loss, that I think we need to be preparing to counter. What is 0's endgame, how do we prepare for it, and how do we counter it?

29 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:55:26pm

Princes William and Harry attended the world premiere for the newest Bond film in London, on Wednesday. Guess they weren't interested in watching the Baracommercial either. ;)

Here is a photo of the spiffing pair.

30 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:55:47pm

re: #25 Badge of Kaffir Pride

If we win those states it will help. I hope it helps enough.

31 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:11pm

From an e-mail:
Twas The Night Before The Elections

'Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!
I, in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.
When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys
They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!
He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink
He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!
" On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi"
He screamed at the pairs!
They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn't stand up and fight!
So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU don't WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!

32 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:20pm

re: #25 Badge of Kaffir Pride

What a bunch of racists! G-d, the country is full of them.
/s

33 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:28pm

re: #6 The Archivist

Something to think about, eh?

I do know that the NRA has been working hard against Obama here in Virginia. Some good, tough ads on TV and radio and lots of excellent fliers arriving in the mail every couple of days. Their members are active in the GOTV drives.

Whether its the NRA's work or a residue of the bitter-clingy speech, it's evident that Obama is NOT convincing people he's just a moderate fuzzball.

34 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:50pm

re: #25 Badge of Kaffir Pride


Again no poll shows Maine close...there are 2 polls from NH where McCain is in the 4-5 pt range 2 other polls that show Obama up by 12 and 24 pts.
I'd say New Hampshire is a possibility if McCain really grabs the momentum.

Maine, very unlikely.

35 tommygum  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:53pm

re: #22 Walter L. Newton

That's heavy. Did he have a personal problem with a small penis?

Speaking of willies; who's in charge of advertising, Throbbert?

36 The Archivist  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:53pm

re: #27 tster

because the polls are broken?

There will be a ton of surprises in this election.

For one, the youth vote won't stand in line for 3 to 6 hours to vote.

37 woodsman  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:57pm

re: #24 middlecon

Not to rain on anyone's parade but if Pennsylvania is real close why aren't the polls even showing a trace of competitiveness? The closest on on RCP is 7%. I wouldn't hold my breath for Pennsylvania.

Here's a poll ... how many of you are like me and NEVER EVER get past the Hellow with a pollster (or any cold caller for that matter)

I bet there's alot of us.

38 Gus 802  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:56:59pm

re: #23 Last Mohican

Unbelievable.

39 jcm  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:57:10pm

re: #23 Last Mohican

Hey, for all you coffee spillers who have made it over from the last thread, may I present to you Starbucks' arch-nemesis, the website that's going to make you richer than in your wildest dreams:

[Link: www.whocanisue.com...]

Got sued twice on the Fire Dept. Once, family decided we'd killed the patient by taking her to the wrong hospital. Motorcycle accident, major head trauma we went to the big trauma center not the closer local hospital with small ER. Other time family thought were out of line for calling the cops when they threatened us.

Neither one went anywhere.

40 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:57:12pm

HuffPo writer kills lover with phillips screwdriver

Obviously one of the more rational posters over there

41 Pechon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:57:32pm

re: #17 Abu Al-Poopypants

It's in the bag, all the polls say so. The election is just a formality.

Reading some of this is funny. My favorite ones are libs wanting to stand off with "neocon goons scaring them from the polls".

I just don't get it, what makes people think this way?

42 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:57:44pm

I took a snap of the AOL poll which asked if the Obamamercial was a good idea.

[Link: 1.bp.blogspot.com...]

Note that Nevada is going to be trouble, I fear.

43 Karridine  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:57:48pm

re: #19 blackpajamas

Wow! Well re-worked! Powerful, Black!

44 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:58:02pm

re: #36 The Archivist

There will be a ton of surprises in this election.

For one, the youth vote won't stand in line for 3 to 6 hours to vote.

They'll think it's in the bag, and go get a pizza and a case of beer instead.

At least I hope so.

45 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:58:14pm

re: #27 tster

because the polls are broken?


Of course the polls aren't perfect but can they really be missing SO many people in SO many states?

I think stick with the tried and true possibilities that have voted Republican in the recent past...Virginia, Ohio, Florida, etc.

46 Maximu§  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:58:37pm

Whatever the outcome of the election, the only real Loser is the MSM...they have lost all credibility.

47 The Archivist  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:58:42pm

re: #33 wolfie

I'll still go back to the reasoning offered by Jerry Doyle earlier this evening on his radio show:

When times are tough, you get conservative. You go with known quantities. Not a time to experiment. You vote McCain.

That, and I think the whole socialist thing is resonating very deeply across the nation.

48 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:58:42pm

re: #13 Walter L. Newton

Yea, becuase there are only 5 1/2 users on right now. I can barely get in during the daytime anymore.

Are you on dial-up, Walter?

49 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:59:14pm

re: #42 vbspurs

Note that Nevada is going to be trouble, I fear.

Not if I can help it!

50 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:59:23pm

re: #35 tommygum

Speaking of willies; who's in charge of advertising, Throbbert?

Wha? Ok, I don't drink anymore, you're gonna have to 'splain that to me Lucy.

51 jainphx  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:59:33pm

re: #25 Badge of Kaffir Pride

From you lips to G-Ds ears. The only thing that scares me is voter fraud, especially in Red states with Democrap Governers.

52 jcm  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:59:38pm

re: #46 Maximu§

Whatever the outcome of the election, the only real Loser is the MSM...they have lost all credibility.

Hannity has this one right.... the year the media died.

53 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 10:59:48pm

re: #13 Walter L. Newton

Yea, becuase there are only 5 1/2 users on right now. I can barely get in during the daytime anymore.

One for each game in the World Series!
;)

54 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:00:05pm

re: #27 tster

because the polls are broken?

Some of those little blue pills should take care of that....

55 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:00:10pm

What is this? Open mic night?

56 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:00:16pm

There is absolutely NO WAY this guy is our next president! none. I cannot wait for next Tuesday night. It'll be fun watching all the talking heads exploding. They'll be sputtering, and questioning the results and saying how unbelievable it is how the polls could have been so wrong.

McCain/Palin in an electoral landslide. Kerry and Gore would have been bad for the country. BHO would be an unmitigated disaster. Not gonna happen. NO WAY.

57 capitalist piglet  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:00:20pm

re: #46 Maximu§

Whatever the outcome of the election, the only real Loser is the MSM...they have lost all credibility.

I agree that they're losers in any case - they have exposed themselves in a way that it would take a very long time and a LOT of fair coverage to recover from - but if Obama wins, I think the country as a whole is in some serious trouble. We'd be losers, too.

58 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:00:40pm

re: #40 spidly

HuffPo writer kills lover with phillips screwdriver

No wait! As Ron Popeil said, there's more!

HuffPo issued a blogpost in "tribute" to Carol Anne Baker.

This is the equivalent of the NFL issuing a tribute to OJ Simpson for all his amazing stats after the killings...HuffPo are so totally whackos.

59 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:00:44pm

re: #26 gmsc

Do you know the "Banana Song" (or "Name Song"?)

It's difficult to sing it for Obama. ;)

Jack, Jack, bo-back,
Banana-fana fo-fack
Fee-fi-mo-mack
Jack!

So...

Obama, Obama, bo-bama
Banana-fana fo-fama
Fee-fi-mo-mama
Obama

It's easy to write, but difficult to sing. :)

60 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:01:11pm

re: #49 gmsc

Not if I can help it!

YOU GO GMSC! I got Florida covered down here.

61 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:01:56pm

The media is actively NOT investigating Obama this will come back to hurt them pretty bad. They will get caught flat footed on the inevitible scandal that any President has. This will be the straw that broke the camels back.

62 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:05pm

re: #48 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Are you on dial-up, Walter?

Hell no, I'm on the widest pipe that comcast offers. I pay extra for it. I still do a little programmin work from home, and when I am programming, I normally have massive databases to download.

No, LGF has been overloaded, and during the day, most of this week, I have been bumped off over and over.

63 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:09pm

re: #24 middlecon

Not to rain on anyone's parade but if Pennsylvania is real close why aren't the polls even showing a trace of competitiveness? The closest on on RCP is 7%. I wouldn't hold my breath for Pennsylvania.

you tell us Moby...... 161 posts since last November?

come on..... y'all can do better than that.

green smoke out!

64 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:17pm

re: #56 soccerdad

McCain/Palin in an electoral landslide.

They won't know what hit them. I mean the 20-somethings. The 50-somethings may remember Nixon in 1972 and Kael's famous quote.

65 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:19pm

re: #55 WrathofG-d

What is this? Open mic night?

Open thread, same thing.

66 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:30pm

re: #24 middlecon

Not to rain on anyone's parade but if Pennsylvania is real close why aren't the polls even showing a trace of competitiveness? The closest on on RCP is 7%. I wouldn't hold my breath for Pennsylvania.

RCP averages out ALL the polls. Not a good indicator.

67 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:41pm

re: #47 The Archivist

Makes sense.

68 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:50pm

re: #24 middlecon

Not to rain on anyone's parade but if Pennsylvania is real close why aren't the polls even showing a trace of competitiveness? The closest on on RCP is 7%. I wouldn't hold my breath for Pennsylvania.

We'll see. Kerry only won here by 2%. No way That One&#8482 is gonna win the bitter, clingy people here. Philly area is all he's got, and they only cout for 40% of the vote.

/we'll be ok

69 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:50pm

re: #46 Maximu§

Whatever the outcome of the election, the only real Loser is the MSM...they have lost all credibility.

On the contrary- they only lose credibility if McCain wins. If there's an 0bama win, they can pass off their blatant bias as being somehow prophetic and all these things such as they Ayers association, this video the L.A. times is sitting on or Tony Rezko will just magically go away like a 9/11 troofer's blog entry on 0bama's official campaign site.

70 Last Mohican  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:02:51pm

re: #56 soccerdad

Kerry and Gore would have been bad for the country.

I agree.

BHO would be an unmitigated disaster.

I agree.

Not gonna happen. NO WAY.

I wish I could agree. I sure hope you're right.

71 woodsman  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:00pm

re: #56 soccerdad

There is absolutely NO WAY this guy is our next president! none... ... Not gonna happen. NO WAY.

Thanks - I agree but sometimes it's hard to keep the faith.

72 WrathofG-d  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:14pm

Ok, before i take off like a space shuttle, I leave you with something that makes me happy. Natalie Wood

73 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:21pm

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

Hell no, I'm on the widest pipe that comcast offers. I pay extra for it. I still do a little programmin work from home, and when I am programming, I normally have massive databases to download.

No, LGF has been overloaded, and during the day, most of this week, I have been bumped off over and over.

(shssssh! it's a conspiracy! %-)

74 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:24pm

re: #44 capitalist piglet

re: #36 The Archivist

There will be a ton of surprises in this election.

For one, the youth vote won't stand in line for 3 to 6 hours to vote.

They'll think it's in the bag, and go get a pizza and a case of beer instead.

At least I hope so.

I'm going to be at the polls in North Carolina at 6:00am for a 6:30am opening.

If there's a huge crowd of grownups at the poll with me, I won't be surprised.

75 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:31pm

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

That has been my experience too, during the day. I get the spinning pizza wheel of death.

76 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:49pm

re: #56 soccerdad

There is absolutely NO WAY this guy is our next president! none. I cannot wait for next Tuesday night. It'll be fun watching all the talking heads exploding. They'll be sputtering, and questioning the results and saying how unbelievable it is how the polls could have been so wrong.

McCain/Palin in an electoral landslide. Kerry and Gore would have been bad for the country. BHO would be an unmitigated disaster. Not gonna happen. NO WAY.

God Bless you! The crepe hangers were getting to me tonight.

77 Viking6  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:03:50pm

re: #49 gmsc

I already early voted for Mac here in NW Vegas

78 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:04:00pm

re: #57 capitalist piglet

I agree that they're losers in any case - they have exposed themselves in a way that it would take a very long time and a LOT of fair coverage to recover from - but if Obama wins, I think the country as a whole is in some serious trouble. We'd be losers, too.

For sure, if Obama wins, and this country heads into the shit hole, the MSM will have to answer to it's lack of coverage on Obama and his "skeletons."

79 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:04:02pm

re: #56 soccerdad

There is absolutely NO WAY this guy is our next president! none. I cannot wait for next Tuesday night. It'll be fun watching all the talking heads exploding. They'll be sputtering, and questioning the results and saying how unbelievable it is how the polls could have been so wrong.

McCain/Palin in an electoral landslide. Kerry and Gore would have been bad for the country. BHO would be an unmitigated disaster. Not gonna happen. NO WAY.

I hope so, for all our sakes. That said I did learn today the I'm not the only McCain voter in my building and I also finally found a McCain window sign and put it up. We won't win Illinois, but I'm still going to try to sway voters till Election Day. Every GOP vote gained is one more person returned to political sanity.

80 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:04:30pm

Some fine poetry/song lyrics coming down here tonight!

81 blink  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:04:46pm

I've been waiting for Hillary to do something to topple BO. Is it all hush hush?

82 Outrider  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:04:52pm

re: #52 jcm

Hannity has this one right.... the year the media died.

And not even a glorious heroic death. They are going whimpering and whining in the corner like a French soccer team playing England.

83 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:04:58pm

re: #24 middlecon

Ah, I see your problem. You haven't read iowahawks latest on polls.

84 Maximu§  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:05:08pm

My bed is barking...off to sleeeeeeppp

85 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:05:23pm

re: #40 spidly

HuffPo writer kills lover with phillips screwdriver

Obviously one of the more rational posters over there

So when a HuffPo writer says "screw you" you can phone it in as a threat.

86 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:05:40pm

I'm a country boy. Haven't lived in a 'city' since Houston, back in the early '90s. Because money's easier to make in cities, I've worked in quite a few (St. Louis, K.C., Omaha, Tulsa, Dallas, basically everything from the Gulf of Mexico to Canada and from Philadelphia to Phoenix). I don't like them.

One thing I've noticed. You can talk an American into about anything. Pet rock, anyone? How about a nice pair of platform shoes?

But it's pretty hard to force an American to do anything. An awful lot of Americans get the feeling that "they" (and often they can't tell you who 'they' are) are forcing Obadin on them.

It won't work. Maybe that's just me being nostalgic for bygone days, but I don't think that it's going to work.

87 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:05:43pm

re: #62 Walter L. Newton

Hell no, I'm on the widest pipe that comcast offers. I pay extra for it. I still do a little programmin work from home, and when I am programming, I normally have massive databases to download.

No, LGF has been overloaded, and during the day, most of this week, I have been bumped off over and over.

Easy! I agree with that. I've had problems the last few days here only, so it's obviously massive influxes of traffic.

And as the election gets closer, it'll only get worse most likely.

88 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:06pm

Guy from Gallup was just on TV, said that 2/3rds of all calls decline to answer any poll questions.

89 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:25pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

For sure, if Obama wins, and this country heads into the shit hole, the MSM will have to answer to it's lack of coverage on Obama and his "skeletons."

The MSM will have a roundtable on the election on CNN, they'll admit they could have been tougher (on McCain), and then absolve themselves of all guilt.

90 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:32pm

re: #64 vbspurs

They won't know what hit them. I mean the 20-somethings. The 50-somethings may remember Nixon in 1972 and Kael's famous quote.

I remember my grandpa telling me about how Adlai Stevenson seemed to be a sure thing. Then, a reporter came up to him shortly after a speech and said, "Congratulations, Mr. Stevenson, you have the vote of every thinking American." Steveson responded, "That's fine, but unfortunately, I need a majority to win!"

Once that remark came out, his campaign, and his political career, was effectively over.

91 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:41pm

re: #75 rawmuse

That has been my experience too, during the day. I get the spinning pizza wheel of death.

Yet, when I do manage to get in, I see the same people, over and over, posting away.

It's almost as if certain of the major pipes around the contry are conjested.

Tomorrow I may look at one of the internet traffic reporting sites and see if there has been a trend. Mabye some of the major trunks have been having some tech problems.

92 Mr. E. Train  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:44pm

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

93 Gus 802  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:53pm

I'm counting on the Towlie Effect to hit the "new" young voters this election.

94 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:54pm

re: #63 redc1c4

you tell us Moby...... 161 posts since last November?

come on..... y'all can do better than that.

green smoke out!

Again with the 'moby'? I just go with the available information. I'm a solid McCain voter, just don't blindly assume that all polls are totally wrong.

Well last week I only had 60 posts so I'm climbing up there, again I ask how many posts until you aren't considered a 'moby'?

95 RoughRider  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:06:58pm

re: #68 x-wing

Philly area is all he's got, and they only cout for 40% of the vote.

But what happens if ACORN gets 135% of inner-city Philadelphians to the polls?

96 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:07:02pm

re: #68 x-wing

We'll see. Kerry only won here by 2%. No way That One™ is gonna win the bitter, clingy people here. Philly area is all he's got, and they only cout for 40% of the vote.

/we'll be ok

How much does the rest of the state have to go McC/P if Obama wins Philly handily? 70-30?

97 jcm  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:07:36pm

Past my bed time.....
I'm off too.

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98 Outrider  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:07:48pm

re: #76 SurferDoc

God Bless you! The crepe hangers were getting to me tonight.

Like an Eyore convention for awhile there. ;-)>

99 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:07:56pm

re: #60 vbspurs

YOU GO GMSC! I got Florida covered down here.

My mother is another Nevada voter. She'll definitely be voting for McCain. She's dropping by tomorrow, so we can go over all the other people and decide how we're going to vote.

100 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:08:17pm

re: #75 rawmuse

That has been my experience too, during the day. I get the spinning pizza wheel of death.

Did you see Charles' post that he is working with the server to speed things up?

/the big guy is on it.

101 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:08:17pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

million man election party

Good one! ;)

102 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:08:24pm

re: #81 blink

I've been waiting for Hillary to do something to topple BO. Is it all hush hush?

Wonder if Carol Anne Baker was accidentally activated

103 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:08:31pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

Don't you figure on fairly substantial urban rioting either way?

I wouldn't want to be a Korean store owner.

104 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:08:39pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

85-15 for, likely.

105 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:08:39pm

re: #88 rawmuse

Guy from Gallup was just on TV, said that 2/3rds of all calls decline to answer any poll questions.

Really? Very interesting! What channel, raw?

106 theblakester  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:06pm

O.K. I couldn't help posting again after the thought of the One winning and getting my name off this list of Charles. I mentioned that my last post might just be my last for fear of retribution.

107 woodsman  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:14pm

re: #81 blink

I've been waiting for Hillary to do something to topple BO. Is it all hush hush?

I think some Conservitive 527 must have one big push that will have'um all yellin' "SWIFTBOAT"

Their saving up for one big push. (I hope)

There sure is plenty of RED MEAT on The One to use.

108 Mel Lono  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:14pm

re: #95 RoughRider

But what happens if ACORN gets 135% of inner-city Philadelphians to the polls?

Isn't Philly burning yet? What's up with these fans...//

109 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:16pm

re: #105 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Really? Very interesting! What channel, raw?

KPIX in SF. CBS affiliate.

110 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:26pm

ACORN Update!

I received the call that the ACORN crushing I was working on last weekend has revealed over 200 fraudulent registrations- about twice as many as the Deputy Chair was expecting.

111 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:34pm

re: #98 Outrider

Like an Eyore convention for awhile there. ;-)>

I was getting ready to out to the apricot tree with a rope.

112 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:43pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

"Even in our finest hour we had a crackhead on stage."

-Chris Rock

/Okay, it was cocaine but same difference.

113 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:43pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

Fair chance. It depends on how many people are still there when election is decided. If it isn't called till 3am, most of the crowd will have gone home.

114 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:49pm

re: #56 soccerdad

There is absolutely NO WAY this guy is our next president! none. I cannot wait for next Tuesday night. It'll be fun watching all the talking heads exploding. They'll be sputtering, and questioning the results and saying how unbelievable it is how the polls could have been so wrong.

McCain/Palin in an electoral landslide. Kerry and Gore would have been bad for the country. BHO would be an unmitigated disaster. Not gonna happen. NO WAY.

I'm with you, soccerdad. I don't know if I'll be able to watch the results on TV as they come in, but once it becomes clear that McCain has indeed taken VA, FL, OH and hopefully PA, I might be tempted to turn on MSNBC just to watch Chris Matthews and Keith what'shisface as they weep and wail.

115 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:09:58pm

re: #41 Pechon

Reading some of this is funny. My favorite ones are libs wanting to stand off with "neocon goons scaring them from the polls".

I just don't get it, what makes people think this way?

"think"?

i doubt that's involved in the process....... %-)

116 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:02pm

re: #77 Viking6

I already early voted for Mac here in NW Vegas

I'll be voting on Friday. Go McCain!

117 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:06pm

I just posted a Spinoff link which details the sad life of Obama's aunty:

"Zeituni Onyango, the aunt so affectionately described in Mr Obama’s best-selling memoir Dreams from My Father, lives in a disabled-access flat on a rundown public housing estate in South Boston."

Zeituni! That means Olive...and is very Arabic (zeitun is the Hebrew for olive too).

Tell me, does Obama have ANY relatives who are not living in abject poverty? How about spreading YOUR wealth, Senator Obama?

118 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:15pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

Hey, I was talking to progressives 2 years ago that were talking about "hitting the streets." And this was just in general, just talking about their hatred of conservatives. And they were not kidding. This was not idle talk. They meant it.

So, considering what I was hearing here in the Denver area, anything is possible now.

Walter in Golden, Co.

119 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:15pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Congrats! Well done.

120 tommygum  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:16pm

re: #50 Walter L. Newton

Wha? Ok, I don't drink anymore, you're gonna have to 'splain that to me Lucy.

All the "bigger penis" ads.

121 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:19pm

re: #63 redc1c4

you tell us Moby...... 161 posts since last November?

come on..... y'all can do better than that.

green smoke out!

Target acquired, locked and loaded.

/there is no such thing as overkill, only open fire and reload.

122 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:22pm

Longish story but worth it I hope. I am in Dallas at a women's accounting conference. Yesterday a session on the candidate's tax platforms, I went to hear about them. Room was packed. At one point the professor/presenter made a comment and a woman sitting near me made a snarky comment about McCain's 8 houses. I said very loudly--keep it neutral and not political (actually I wanted to yell something equally snarky about O's house and Rezko, but I kept it classy). Session ended, no problems. Today after a session on stress reduction (which is useful during the next week) this woman comes up to me and starts apologizing. She was looking for me all day-she was the one who made the comment. She was actually trying to make a joke. Turns out she is UNDECIDED, JEWISH, FROM FLORIDA. Could I please tell her why I am voting for McCain? I took 15 minutes to lay it out and she listened very carefully. So, if Florida wins for McCain by 1 vote--I claim it!

123 Outrider  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:10:35pm

re: #87 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Easy! I agree with that. I've had problems the last few days here only, so it's obviously massive influxes of traffic.

And as the election gets closer, it'll only get worse most likely.

If you check the stats there are like 5,000 on LGF and 400-500 logged in when I check during the day. That is the same as during the debates. Good thing Charles has tweaked this puppy so fine. Super charge them servers and he will be unstoppable. ;-)>

124 Billy Hank  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:11:17pm

Two other things that are making me laugh tonight, apart from the song parodies on this thread, are Governor Palin sweetly ripping the LA Times a new one for refusing to release the tape, "It would be nice to have your own pet newspaper like Obama does. If there's a Pulitzer for kowtowing, you guys are winning." Pet newspaper. The LA Times is never going to live that down. They had better take the CSM option quick.

The other thing is seeing paunchy bomb meister, Distinguished Professor Bill Ayers, in his T-shirt with the big red star. He looks like one of Dr. Seuess's particularly disagreeable Star-bellied Sneetches.

125 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:11:21pm

I looked at my precinct's (in MA) ballot yesterday. Aside from President and Senator, the only other office that has a Republican running is County Commissioner, and those three offices are the only ones that are not running unopposed.

126 Viking6  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:11:48pm

re: #116 gmsc

Roger that! I understand that we have a number of lizards in the Valley. Perhaps we should have a victory party?

127 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:11:57pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

ACORN Update!

I received the call that the ACORN crushing I was working on last weekend has revealed over 200 fraudulent registrations- about twice as many as the Deputy Chair was expecting.

RACIST!
/

128 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:12:10pm

re: #112 Badge of Kaffir Pride

"Even in our finest hour we had a crackhead on stage."

-Chris Rock

/Okay, it was cocaine but same difference.

To be fair, if Obama is near the stage and the election is called against him, I would expect him to work to calm the crowd. A riot would not profit him.

129 captwfcall  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:12:12pm

re: #46 Maximu§

Whatever the outcome of the election, the only real Loser is the MSM...they have lost all credibility.

I believe they lost all credibility long before now. they've been lying about our President for the past 8 years constantly. they've created a self-fulfilling prophecy when it comes to everyone's opinion of President Bush. You'd think he was the worst human that ever lived and never did a single thing right in his entire presidency. They will distort anything that helps their liberal agenda, it's been a steady decline and I honestly believe it has been major contributor to the stock market fluctuations since around the DOTCOM bust. It's not the only thing, but it's a big player IMO.

If you are constantly telling everyone 'Bush sucks, his policies suck, the Republican agenda sucks', blah blah blah. People start believing that crap. the sheep are easily swayed. Liberals make a living on that fact.

I never truly understood the value of government-run media until the past few years of Bush's administration. Now I see why many countries have state run media. it's quite effective. the Liberals basically have formed their own state-run media. *And NO, I'm not saying state run media is good. And the solution to fixing this is not government taking control. The answer is to stop watching/reading those bias news outlets and not to support their advertisers.

130 Last Mohican  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:12:20pm

Proposed McCain commercial #1:

[A man walks into an employer's office, for his job interview]

Applicant: Hello, my name is Steve, and I'm here to interview for the human resources position.

Employer: Hi Steve, nice to meet you. I'm a mass murderer. I killed a few dozen innocent people while I was trying to violently overthrow the government. My plan was to murder about 25 million Americans, but, well, yadda yadda yadda, long story short, here I am working in this boring old office instead. But enough about me. How did you become interested in human resources?

Applicant [looks concerned]: Wait a second. I'm not sure I feel comfortable working for you. When did you kill all these people?

Employer: Back in the seventies. I would have liked to kill more people, but I haven't really had time lately.

Applicant [relieved]: Oh! Okay, that's totally fine then, I was only a kid in the seventies.

Voiceover: Would you go to work for a terrorist mass murderer? [pause] Would you vote for a president who did?

131 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:12:22pm

2004 Pennsylvania polls had Kerry by about .9% so the polls were very close the actual results in 2004.

RCP 2004 PA polls

132 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:12:31pm

re: #116 gmsc

I'll be voting on Friday. Go McCain!

I'm voting Thursday, the first time ever early-voting. It's always been a point of honour with me, to vote on the day of the election -- I used to be a Clerk of a polling station in the 2004 Election.

But that's the reason why I am early voting today. In 2004, it was absolutely crazy. 3-4 hour wait. I can only imagine on Tuesday.

133 theblakester[deleted]  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:12:40pm
134 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:13:33pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Whoa. Go git 'em, Sharmuta!
Sic 'em!

135 NY Nana  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:14:24pm

re: #110 Sharmuta

Mazel tov! I wish that you could see my smile grin right now! I am soooo proud of you.

136 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:14:28pm

re: #114 Intrepid

I don't know if I'll be able to watch the results on TV as they come in, but once it becomes clear that McCain has indeed taken VA, FL, OH and hopefully PA, I might be tempted to turn on MSNBC just to watch Chris Matthews and Keith what'shisface as they weep and wail.

I'm going to TIVO (or whatever it's called for the digital recording device on Time Warner) MSNBC's coverage and do something else on Election Night.

I want the news all at once (good or bad) not in dribs and drabs.

If the sane thing happens and McCain/Palin win, I'll go back to watch MSNBC's recorded coverage of it. I think I'll record Fox, too, and watch it as a rerun, too.

My apartment-mates (who live with me in this temporary abode) won't be home that evening either so I can record anything I want.

137 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:07pm

re: #88 rawmuse

Guy from Gallup was just on TV, said that 2/3rds of all calls decline to answer any poll questions.

I took a survey from my former HMO. Only people who have my cell number.

1-10 scale stuff.
how satisfied are you with this and that co-pay?

don't want to answer that... I'm dissatisfied but because I think they should be a lot higher but if I say I'm dissatisfied sombody is going to take it as pressure to lower them and make things worse....

pointless

138 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:13pm

re: #95 RoughRider

re: #96 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I don't have the numbers. but with everyone I heard from in the state, Mac,is going to get this. You can't have Obama and then Murtha call us racists and then expect any support. I have faith in my state.

139 Viking6  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:16pm

re: #133 theblakester

When this thing is over, and McCain wins, we will need to take a long hard look at this election process. They would say any voter requirements would be Jim Crow like. But I say we need to look into having an literacy intelligence test of some sorts.

Fixed it for you

/

140 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:19pm

Lucianne has a great front page today, created by the guy at the People's Cube.

141 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:39pm

The Reb, that's awesome! In 2000, I begged my mother to call 5 of her friends up in Palm Beach Co. -- all Democrats, but leaning Bush. She convinced them and made them promise they'd call ONE person each and convince THEM to vote for Bush.

So I lay claim to a few of those 537 votes for Bush. ;)

142 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:41pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, if Obama is near the stage and the election is called against him, I would expect him to work to calm the crowd. A riot would not profit him.

He's got nothing to gain if it's called McCain and especially if it's a landslide. He's relegated to appendices in history texts and he's an "organizer". He'll put some half-hearted thing together full of "uh" and "ah" but nothing that'll stop the riots. I think there'll be blood and fire in Chicago... although I hope that I'm wrong.

143 captwfcall  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:15:56pm

re: #136 Adina in Judea

I recommend Glenn Beck's web-based coverage that he streams on election night. it's quite entertaining. You might have to be a subscriber though.

144 woodsman  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:16:02pm

re: #94 middlecon

Again with the 'moby'? I just go with the available information. I'm a solid McCain voter, just don't blindly assume that all polls are totally wrong.

Well last week I only had 60 posts so I'm climbing up there, again I ask how many posts until you aren't considered a 'moby'?

Ahhh but blindly assume you must Moby One - Believe in the force of the invisible Gipper within you ... if not ... ?

145 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:16:19pm

re: #131 middlecon

Check my post #17. It's usenet articles from early Nov. 2004 mostly by people claiming that Kerry was ahead (before the election) or Bush stole the election because the outcome didn't match the polls.

146 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:16:25pm

re: #109 rawmuse

KPIX in SF. CBS affiliate.

Just wondering, do you know if it was a local report? Or a satellite feed from CBS news?

147 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:16:29pm

re: #131 middlecon

Things have changed this year, a lot more people lying to the pollsters or refusing to play. I am just waiting for the final poll result to come in on November the 5th.

/with my shield or on it.

148 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:16:54pm

re: #71 woodsman

Thanks - I agree but sometimes it's hard to keep the faith.


And surfer and Dark and everyone:

Keep the faith. A BHO presidency CANNOT happen. Do what you can. Make calls. Take the day off on Tuesday. Work the polls. I'm in PA and will do everything I can to syphon votes for BHO. For the first time in my life I'll work the polls. It'll be fun. If you are in a battleground state...we NEED you. Step up for Charles. Think of what he does every day!

Lizards unites against BHO! The time is now!

149 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:17:19pm

re: #138 x-wing

re: #96 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I don't have the numbers. but with everyone I heard from in the state, Mac,is going to get this. You can't have Obama and then Murtha call us racists and then expect any support. I have faith in my state.

I have faith in PA, too. Enough faith that I'm going to take a 6-1 bet for $100 with a co-worker on McC's victory.

150 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:17:59pm

I was thinking- we are locked in an ideological battle. One that our opponents have been waging for decades and we've been slow to acknowledge. That changed on 9/11.

But it's not just the islamists- it's the leftists too. They've reached into our institutions and have been working on indoctrinating America's youth to their cause for far to long.

The interesting thing is I realized we have the same solution to both battles- individual rights. It is promoting and adhering to this ideal that can effectively combat both the ideology of the islamists and the leftists.

151 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:18:07pm

Did you guys read this post from a DUmmie? Check it out. No link, because I don't want to give them traffic, but it's front-paged.

I just went OFF in a Starbucks

I am doing my best to compose myself during this election cycle, particularly since Obama is doing well in the polls. But this asshole flirting with some woman near me sent me over the top.

First, he approaches and begins talking about innocuous things. Fine. Then, he asks her about the election. She demonstrates awe at its ferocity. Again, innocuous. He then proceeds to state that both candidates are awful. I flinch, but accept his point of view that the candidates don't speak to him. However, he then begins this diatribe about how Obama supporters are more or less braindead and are being fooled by Obama's hypnotizing speech.

I could have taken the high road and asking him not to talk politics as it is a touchy subject for me (after 8 years of Bush, come on..) or point out that figures such as Colin Powell, Donald Trump and the Eisenhower girl are supporting Obama.

Nope! Instead, I turn around and yell "Get the fuck away from me!" to which he says, "I'm talking to her." as if this allows him to insult me within ear shot. "I said, I don't give a fuck. You're talking shit and ruining people's days. You should know better than to talk this shit in public!" He then says, "well, we disagree." To which I begin screaming while pointing at him, "YOU'RE the fuckin' idiot!" (alluding to his comments that begin my coniption) At this point, my veins are bulging. He backs down, I turn around, and get this, put on my ear phones so that I can't hear him anymore! He probably thought, "why didn't you do that to begin with." Why? Because assholes need to be put in their place. I suspect he is a repig who is disappointed in the direction of the campaign. Seeing an African American within earshot, he thought he could get away with his passive aggressive bullshit. Au fuckin' contraire "my friend". I feel better now, thanks for being there and letting me share fellow DUers!

GO OBAMA!

He's proud of himself. Says it all really.

152 rawmuse  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:18:18pm

re: #146 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

It was the spokesperson for Gallup, but I did not get the name.
The point being that only one out of every 8 calls gets even picked up, and of those, only a third answer the poll questions.

153 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:18:39pm

re: #135 NY Nana

Thanks, {Nana}.

And thank you to all of you for your encouragement and support. It means a lot to me.

154 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:18:40pm

re: #108 Mel Lono

Isn't Philly burning yet? What's up with these fans...//


They are not the Philly fans I knew.

/maybe it's the weather

155 itellu3times  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:18:56pm

re: #117 vbspurs

Tell me, does Obama have ANY relatives who are not living in abject poverty? How about spreading YOUR wealth, Senator Obama?

The funny thing is, a senator really doesn't have to spend his own wealth to help relatives, there are many many people who will ooze out of the woodwork to make kind and generous offers to relatives, friends, and neighbors of the senator.

156 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:01pm

re: #143 captwfcall

re: #136 Adina in Judea

I recommend Glenn Beck's web-based coverage that he streams on election night. it's quite entertaining. You might have to be a subscriber though.

Will it be saved for viewing later?

I'm literally not going to watch during the election results.

I'm going to take the news like a bandaid being ripped off all at once later.

I'll watch some recorded coverage later if/when McCain/Palin win.

I did this in 2004, too (except I didn't record it.) I went to MSNBC in time to see what looked like an on-air funeral when the coverage was almost done.

157 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:20pm

re: #142 Badge of Kaffir Pride

He's got nothing to gain if it's called McCain and especially if it's a landslide. He's relegated to appendices in history texts and he's an "organizer". He'll put some half-hearted thing together full of "uh" and "ah" but nothing that'll stop the riots. I think there'll be blood and fire in Chicago... although I hope that I'm wrong.

I disagree. He's quite young. He could try staying in the Senate and then run for President again in time. A loss this year does not end BHO's political career (unfortunately), but a riot would.

158 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:23pm

re: #150 Sharmuta

The rights of the individual should not be superceded by the rights of the state. Is that what you are trying to say?

/agree whole heartedly with you.

159 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:30pm

re: #122 The Rebbitzen

Longish story but worth it I hope. I am in Dallas at a women's accounting conference. Yesterday a session on the candidate's tax platforms, I went to hear about them. Room was packed. At one point the professor/presenter made a comment and a woman sitting near me made a snarky comment about McCain's 8 houses. I said very loudly--keep it neutral and not political (actually I wanted to yell something equally snarky about O's house and Rezko, but I kept it classy). Session ended, no problems. Today after a session on stress reduction (which is useful during the next week) this woman comes up to me and starts apologizing. She was looking for me all day-she was the one who made the comment. She was actually trying to make a joke. Turns out she is UNDECIDED, JEWISH, FROM FLORIDA. Could I please tell her why I am voting for McCain? I took 15 minutes to lay it out and she listened very carefully. So, if Florida wins for McCain by 1 vote--I claim it!

GOOD! That's the spirit I'm talking about!

160 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:47pm

re: #147 BlueCanuck


Oh I agree that the only poll that counts in on Nov. 4, but I enjoy dissecting the ones that are out there now. There's no doubt that McCain has made some gains in just the last few days, so there is plenty of good news. McCain is making this alot closer than it should be.

161 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:47pm

re: #103 Abu Al-Poopypants

Don't you figure on fairly substantial urban rioting either way?

I wouldn't want to be a Korean store owner.

we're picking up HRH's new guns election afternoon: a Glock 9 and a very nice, if miserably sporterized 1903 Springfield (81XXX)..... cherry bore. it should do nicely with the FN black tip 30.06 i bought years ago, should penetration become an issue..... %-)

162 theblakester  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:19:53pm

Viking6
Thanks for the correction. Maybe you can help after the election, Lord knows we will need it!

163 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:20:11pm

#141 vbspurs--woohoo good for you. Take that Sarah Silver-potty mouth Great Schlep blech. I have been predicting a 5 point win for McCain since last spring. I really think that many people say they are voting for O so they won't seem racist and look cool, but won't vote for him. My friend in Philly says her friends and neighbors are voting McCain. The HillBuzz gals are pumped and we should be too. Keep the faith!

164 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:20:14pm

always hand in my ballot at the last minute. Republicans voting early in Oregon's Fraud By Mail have their ballots turn up in the river or in election officials' trunks.

165 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:20:19pm

re: #92 Mr. E. Train

If Mac does win, what are the chances of a riot at the million man election party in Chi-town?

If Chi-town did see trouble, I hope they them bears wall-to-wall.
;)

166 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:20:21pm

re: #155 itellu3times

The funny thing is, a senator really doesn't have to spend his own wealth to help relatives, there are many many people who will ooze out of the woodwork to make kind and generous offers to relatives, friends, and neighbors of the senator.

Maybe he can ask Rezko for another sweetheart loan.

167 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:20:28pm

*once-known facts that may now be out-of-date*

Once upon a time, PA had a huge number of hunters. (It's surprising once you get out of the cities how empty this country still is.) Does it still?

Will PA hunters vote for Obadin? Or go for Palin/McCain?

The flip-side to this is that about half of our population resides in major metro areas. They seem moonbattish, IMAO.

168 Gus 802  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:20:51pm

re: #151 vbspurs

OK, that was funny. Another DU loser. They're so entertaining.

169 captwfcall  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:23pm

re: #156 Adina in Judea

yes, i believe he has an audio archive of it all. it's just a thing he does for his forum subscribers.

170 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:23pm

re: #131 middlecon

2004 Pennsylvania polls had Kerry by about .9% so the polls were very close the actual results in 2004.

RCP 2004 PA polls

We didn't have ACORN going nutso here in 2004 either. The polls are inflated because of all of these new Dem. voters. Let's see how many of them show up.

171 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:45pm

re: #152 rawmuse

It was the spokesperson for Gallup, but I did not get the name.
The point being that only one out of every 8 calls gets even picked up, and of those, only a third answer the poll questions.

So about one out of 11 actually will answer their questions.

172 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:46pm

re: #163 The Rebbitzen

#141 vbspurs--woohoo good for you. Take that Sarah Silver-potty mouth Great Schlep blech. I have been predicting a 5 point win for McCain since last spring. I really think that many people say they are voting for O so they won't seem racist and look cool, but won't vote for him. My friend in Philly says her friends and neighbors are voting McCain. The HillBuzz gals are pumped and we should be too. Keep the faith!

Don't hate me, but I actually like Sarah Silverman. She's the right kind of edgy for my taste.

Incidentally, I've been reading Hillbuzz assiduously. Not sure I believe everything, but it makes me feel like an insider. ;)

173 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:46pm

re: #151 vbspurs

Typical. No politeness, just flying off the handle and screaming. I wonder if some of these leftist pieces of garbage were ever taught how to filter what comes out of their mouths in public?

174 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:50pm

re: #158 BlueCanuck

The rights of the individual should not be superceded by the rights of the state. Is that what you are trying to say?

/agree whole heartedly with you.

Yes. Individual rights over the collectivism of both the left and the islamists. We must work at promoting this ideology that was handed down to us from our Founders if we're going to keep the Great American Experiment alive.

175 blink  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:21:57pm

I don't expect violence in the inner cities. Those folks recognize BO as a fraud. I expect violence by the great (white) unwashed loitering around major college and university campuses and in the liberal cities of the west coast.

176 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:22:28pm

re: #148 soccerdad

And surfer and Dark and everyone:

Keep the faith. A BHO presidency CANNOT happen. Do what you can. Make calls. Take the day off on Tuesday. Work the polls. I'm in PA and will do everything I can to syphon votes for BHO. For the first time in my life I'll work the polls. It'll be fun. If you are in a battleground state...we NEED you. Step up for Charles. Think of what he does every day!

Lizards unites against BHO! The time is now!

I'm with you, Soccer Dad. I've been talking to people about politics, which I don't normally do and telling everyone I know to be sure to vote. Fortunately, in the Mojave Desert where I live we don't have many Democrats, I could tell absolute strangers to be sure to vote and be certain I'm talking to Republicans.

177 tommygum  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:22:30pm

re: #121 BlueCanuck

Target acquired, locked and loaded.

/there is no such thing as overkill, only open fire and reload.

Use a hundred round drum. Repeat as necessary.

178 OtisMyMan  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:22:32pm

re: #55 WrathofG-d

What is this? Open mic night?

Two socialists walk into a bar..... and they nationalized it.

Badumpbump!

179 Billy Hank  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:22:34pm

As to the riots if McCain wins. I think it could destroy the Democratic Party. One thing that seems pretty native to Americans is the concept of losing with class not violent temper tantrums. If we see violent temper tantrums, that will reinforce the bawling symbol of the Democratic Party and should make picking off the House, maybe even the Senate, in 2010 an achievable goal.

"Do you really want these spoiled brats to have power over you?"

180 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:21pm

re: #173 BlueCanuck

Typical. No politeness, just flying off the handle and screaming. I wonder if some of these leftist pieces of garbage were ever taught how to filter what comes out of their mouths in public?

I was slightly shocked that SOME of the DUmmies criticised him for his behaviour. He wrote back, "whatever". ;)

181 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:21pm

What's with all these people here without avatars?

182 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:23pm

re: #94 middlecon

Again with the 'moby'? I just go with the available information. I'm a solid McCain voter, just don't blindly assume that all polls are totally wrong.

Well last week I only had 60 posts so I'm climbing up there, again I ask how many posts until you aren't considered a 'moby'?

don't like the tag, don't fit the profile....... moby, troll, eeyore, or, as they refer to you on Ace of Spades "concern troll"..... sucks to be you, regardless.

183 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:23pm

re: #172 vbspurs

Don't hate me, but I actually like Sarah Silverman. She's the right kind of edgy for my taste.

Incidentally, I've been reading Hillbuzz assiduously. Not sure I believe everything, but it makes me feel like an insider. ;)

go hang at the pre-school sandbox and you can get a load of the super edgy poo poo pee pee humor

184 jetprop  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:26pm

re: #130 Last Mohican

Interesting.

I had an idea.

A man comes home from a long day at work and finds his wife crying looking horrified.

He consoles her, "what's wrong?"

She says, "she didn't know.."

"Didn't know?", he says

She says [sobbing] "I voted for BO and didn't know his view on [_______]" (fill in the blank/can't decide which issue~ it's got to be simple/to the point.. angling toward buyers remorse..).

Husband tenderly consoles her..and says, "Honey, It's not too late"

Wife, "not too late?"

" to inform your undecided friends...."

/too sappy?

185 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:35pm

Did anyone see that Chuck Norris campaign commercial on FNC. Fucking Awesome.

/Chuck kicks ass.

186 theblakester  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:37pm

143 captwfcall 10/29/08 11:15:56 pm reply quote 0

re: #136 Adina in Judea

I recommend Glenn Beck's web-based coverage that he streams on election night. it's quite entertaining. You might have to be a subscriber though.

I am really upset that Glenn show was yanked from the airways in my area. He was the breath of fresh air and sanity that I needed everyday. I'm told he is going to be on fox. But why pull the show now, can't they wait until after the election? Lord knows we need him!

187 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:48pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. He's quite young. He could try staying in the Senate and then run for President again in time. A loss this year does not end BHO's political career (unfortunately), but a riot would.

I disagree. He's quite young, sure, but if he loses as badly as I hope, he's done. There are too many red flags that will get brought up (Khalidi if that tape doesn't come out tomorrow, Rezko, Communism, etc.) that will ever allow him to run again. I think if he loses he'll be lucky to just speak at the DNC every four years and hold his Senate seat. Hillary's getting the nom in 2012 against Sarah.

I think he becomes a footnote in history because of his race baiting, his Communist philosophies and his hate-based campaign.

188 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:23:52pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, if Obama is near the stage and the election is called against him, I would expect him to work to calm the crowd. A riot would not profit him.

If he does lose, then he'll need to make his concession speech a major crowd calming one. If he doesn't do this, and if there are riots without one attempt to calm them down, he will be truly clobbered by Hillary in 2012.

189 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:24:17pm

I was polled this year, it sounded like a Democrat internal poll or something, they really pumped up the qualifications of the long shot Democratic challenger for Congress, while highlighting the weaknesses of the Republican incumbant. The questions sounded pretty biased to me.

190 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:24:28pm

re: #133 theblakester

When this thing is over, and McCain wins, we will need to take a long hard look at this election process. They would say any voter requirements would be Jim Crow like. But I say we need to look into having a literacy test of some sorts.

I cannot agree with this. Too many men have died to ensure our American rights, including our right to vote.

I would, however, agree with strengthening voter laws to reign in fraud. In fact- it must be done.

191 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:24:29pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

I disagree. He's quite young. He could try staying in the Senate and then run for President again in time. A loss this year does not end BHO's political career (unfortunately), but a riot would.

This is his one and only chance. Remember McGovern in '72
1972 election electoral map

192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:24:50pm

re: #179 Billy Hank

As to the riots if McCain wins. I think it could destroy the Democratic Party. One thing that seems pretty native to Americans is the concept of losing with class not violent temper tantrums. If we see violent temper tantrums, that will reinforce the bawling symbol of the Democratic Party and should make picking off the House, maybe even the Senate, in 2010 an achievable goal.

"Do you really want these spoiled brats to have power over you?"

Bingo. Agreed. I'll upding you even though I posted the same thing last night.

193 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:25:19pm

re: #177 tommygum

Use a hundred round drum. Repeat as necessary.

Good to see a fan of the Chicago Typewriter here.

194 woodsman  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:25:31pm

re: #178 OtisMyMan

Two socialists walk into a bar..... and they nationalized it.

Badumpbump!


I'll drink to that!

195 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:25:33pm

Do you have to have a certain number of posts to get an avatar now?

196 pat  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:25:38pm

re: #174 Sharmuta

ditto. clearly obama thinks otherwise. this nonsense tonite should scare dems.

197 astronmr20  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:25:40pm

re: #6 The Archivist

I find him very speculative, hopeful and a little over-zealous most of the time.

Even though he has no actual numbers to back up most of his assertions, he makes a great point.

198 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:25:50pm

When O loses, he can go back to Kenya and do his thing there.

199 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:26:17pm

I think everyone should have an avatar.

200 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:26:47pm

re: #190 Sharmuta

There are way too many ways to perpetrate fraud in elections.

Something has got to be done to make sure that the people on the voter lists are real people who only get to vote once.

It's the computer age so it shouldn't be all that difficult.

The primary system must also be changed.

Obama didn't deserve the nomination this year.

201 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:26:55pm

re: #190 Sharmuta

I cannot agree with this. Too many men have died to ensure our American rights, including our right to vote.

I would, however, agree with strengthening voter laws to reign in fraud. In fact- it must be done.


I'm in Indiana, the voter ID law was upheld by the courts and is extremely reasonable, I think it should be adopted in every state, of course...you guessed it...its the Democrats who are against it.

202 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:26:57pm

re: #191 soccerdad

This is his one and only chance. Remember McGovern in '72
1972 election electoral map

I can hear it now. "We told you once, dammit. NO!"

203 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:27:00pm

re: #183 spidly

go hang at the pre-school sandbox and you can get a load of the super edgy poo poo pee pee humor

Heh. Nah, that's Sacha Baron Cohen. I remember reading a French film review of "Borat" headlined by this title. "L'humeur pipicaca".

;)

204 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:27:51pm

re: #187 Badge of Kaffir Pride

There are too many red flags that will get brought up that will ever allow him to run again. gn.

Not to mention the campaign irregularities investigation(s) that Johnny will pursue.

205 Viking6  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:27:57pm

My wife told me a work story today that I thought was pretty funny and I would like to share. She is an executive with a major hotel / entertainment group here in Vegas and is a rock solid Republican. She had a manager meeting today and to underscore some of the issues with the current economic issues here made the statement to the group, "Well I think things will settle down after the election." To which several of her younger, managers began to do what younger people do and espouse their personal feelings, like "yea when Obama wins it will be great."

One manager in particular was very adamant about this and when my wife asked why are you voting for a Communist the manager replied, "Well he is not a Communist he is a socialist." My wife told me she didn't know whether to shit or go blind at this. She had to leave the room to keep from laughing directly at the manager.

Good Job Public Schools.

206 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:28:03pm

re: #191 soccerdad

This is his one and only chance. Remember McGovern in '72
1972 election electoral map

He won't lose as badly as McGovern did. Though he should lose worse; as he showed in defending the secret ballot for union elections this month, George McGovern actually believes in democracy.

207 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:28:27pm

Did anyone watch the Obamomercial? I listened to local talk radio about a local Democrat who got arrested yesterday for extortion and bribery, then I caught the tail end of the WS.

208 Viking6  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:28:34pm

re: #162 theblakester

Anytime, anywhere baby!

209 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:28:39pm

re: #200 Adina in Judea

The primary system must also be changed.

Obama didn't deserve the nomination this year.

What's wrong with the Primary system and would President Hillary be any better than President Obama? From what I could tell they disagreed on very little and Hillary's only 'experience' is being a carpet bagging Senator.

210 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:28:55pm

re: #202 razorbacker

I can hear it now. "We told you once, dammit. NO!"


Bingo! (but that WAS a long time ago) Need to repudiate it AGAIN.

211 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:29:09pm

The people in France think we should have a black president.

I have no problem with having a black president....just not a socialist one.

And BTW, how many black presidents has France had?

212 BakaRanger  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:29:11pm

re: #7 blackpajamas

A tribute to the the L.A. Times --
All the news that's fit to print, on the bumper sticker of a dung beetle.

Did you hear the one about the Dung Beetle that got a divorce?

His wife took half his shit.

213 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:29:25pm

re: #149 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I have faith in PA, too. Enough faith that I'm going to take a 6-1 bet for $100 with a co-worker on McC's victory.

I can't seem to find a friend or anyone around my place to bet straight up yet.

/you did me that he pays out the 6 right? not an experienced bettor.

214 BigJohn  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:29:56pm

re: #97 jcm

How did you make the NoBama hammer and sickle? I like it.

215 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:30:12pm

re: #209 middlecon

Get an avatar!

216 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:30:33pm

re: #207 Abu Al-Poopypants

Did anyone watch the Obamomercial? I listened to local talk radio about a local Democrat who got arrested yesterday for extortion and bribery, then I caught the tail end of the WS.

I watched it. I can't wait for free stuff!

217 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:30:45pm

re: #175 blink

You may well be right. Most of the uglier incidents we have witnessed so far have been perpetrated by "enlightened" whites.

218 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:31:00pm

re: #213 x-wing

I can't seem to find a friend or anyone around my place to bet straight up yet.

/you did me that he pays out the 6 right? not an experienced bettor.

Yup, I've got $10 at 5-1 now and I'm going to take his up of the bet to 6-1 for $100. I wasn't taking any action at work unless I was getting odds; if they want to use the polls to their advantage so be it. :)

219 theblakester  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:31:07pm

190 Sharmuta 10/29/08 11:24:28 pm reply quote 0

re: #133 theblakester

When this thing is over, and McCain wins, we will need to take a long hard look at this election process. They would say any voter requirements would be Jim Crow like. But I say we need to look into having a literacy test of some sorts.

I cannot agree with this. Too many men have died to ensure our American rights, including our right to vote.

I would, however, agree with strengthening voter laws to reign in fraud. In fact- it must be done.

Like I said, of some sorts. Know the history off the Jim crow laws suppressing the black and poor white vote to keep the white democrats in office. But something has got to give by letting idiots vote and the election fraud stealing our democracy. This is not why my neighbor is out there fighting this very moment is Afghanistan for.

220 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:31:59pm

re: #177 tommygum

Use a hundred round drum. Repeat as necessary.

water cooled Browning 30 caliber: 36K rounds and 7 1/2 gallons of water an hour until you run out of something or a part breaks.....

kinda like a real slow minigun..... %-)

221 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:01pm

vbspurs-I love your avatar. Are you going to "change" it after the election?

222 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:09pm

re: #190 Sharmuta

In the latest Federal election here, back on the 14th, I showed up at my polling station with my voter registration card that was mailed to me. I handed it in and was asked for a picture I.D. and another I.D. with address on it or a piece of mail. Every time I vote I always get asked that. Vote fraud does happen, but not as blatant or often as you folks are experiencing today. My first election in my new place, since I wasn't on the rolls I had to sign four pieces of paper plus showing all my I.D.. Worth it in my opinion. I have only failed to vote in one election since I have been of age.

223 Gus 802  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:19pm

France is no longer a country. It's a European state.

/S

224 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:31pm

re: #212 BakaRanger

His wife took half his shit.

Stop me if you've heard this before (too late!):

Barack Obama was seated next to a little girl on an airplane. He turned to her and said, 'Let's talk. I've heard that flights go quicker if you strike up a conversation with your fellow passenger.'

The little girl, who had just opened her book, closed it slowly and said to Obama, 'What would you like to talk about?'

'Oh, I don't know,' said Obama. 'How about What Changes I Should Make To America?' and he smiles

'OK, ' she said. 'That could be an interesting topic. But let me ask you a question first. A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat the same stuff - grass.Yet a deer excretes little pellets, while a cow turns out a flat patty, and a horse produces clumps of dried grass. Why do you suppose that is?'

Obama, visibly surprised by the little girl's intelligence, thinks about it and says, 'Hmmm, I have no idea.'

To which the little girl replies, 'Do you really feel qualified to change America when you don't know shit?

225 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:42pm

re: #211 DesertSage

The people in France think we should have a black president.

I have no problem with having a black president....just not a socialist one.

And BTW, how many black presidents has France had?

Shit, Sarcozy called Obama immature!

226 Piglet-U93  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:49pm

re: #215 DesertSage

Get an avatar!

You mean the little green football is not an avatar?

227 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:51pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

He won't lose as badly as McGovern did. Though he should lose worse; as he showed in defending the secret ballot for union elections this month, George McGovern actually believes in democracy.


Those days had decent democrats that just disagreed. We're dealing with a whole new breed of socialists now. They've overplayed their hand. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

There are Liars, DAMN liars, and statiscians. Put no credence in the polls. Fight! Every vote counts. Do NOT be afraid to tell someone who you are for (or against) and why.

228 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:32:55pm

re: #209 middlecon

re: #200 Adina in Judea

The primary system must also be changed.

Obama didn't deserve the nomination this year.

What's wrong with the Primary system and would President Hillary be any better than President Obama? From what I could tell they disagreed on very little and Hillary's only 'experience' is being a carpet bagging Senator.

What I meant is that I think some irregularities occurred during the primaries.

The Hillary supporters are describing some things that sound pretty fishy (like busloads of people coming in to participate in a caucus, etc.)

It seems wrong to have the country's choices for President set up by people in a caucus or two (or three.)

229 NY Nana  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:33:13pm

re: #153 Sharmuta

Sharm,

You never fail to amaze me. You did a tremendous job on what must have been a very grueling job. If only every district in the USA had a Sharmuta to go over the registrations, especially in view of what ACORN has done for Hussein? We all could relax.

Got to go to sleep. This election is really getting to me, and hopefully we will be able to go to Brooklyn later today to see the 2-year old. And if he says 'Nana! Obama!' twice, like last week? I will deck his parents. I told my daughter that I should wash her mouth out with soap. My son in law looked a bit scared! They need to be in a re-ecumacation camp, so help me.

I just hope that they have watched the news and read something besides al-NY Slimes.

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams...and Sharm? Thank you again!

230 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:33:15pm

they should get the silence of the lambs guy to do the "how it's made" on the learning channel
"it puts the wax in the mold."
"it wraps the crayon in the paper."

231 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:33:28pm

re: #207 Abu Al-Poopypants

I listened to local talk radio about a local Democrat who got arrested yesterday for extortion and bribery

God, I must be exhausted because I read that as "Extortion and Burberry".

232 BigJohn  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:33:51pm

re: #131 middlecon

2004 Pennsylvania polls had Kerry by about .9% so the polls were very close the actual results in 2004.

RCP 2004 PA polls

It will probably be close when they put out their final poll. They have a vested interest in getting the last poll close. Before that it doesn't matter. Since RCP is an average, RCP will tighten at the end when all of the others tighten. Except for CBS and NBC polls.

233 BakaRanger  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:33:58pm

re: #224 vbspurs

Very good! LOL.

234 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:34:05pm

re: #212 BakaRanger

Did you hear the one about the Dung Beetle that got a divorce?

His wife took half his shit.

LOL!

235 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:34:23pm

re: #226 Piglet-U93

You mean the little green football is not an avatar?

It's an avatar in waiting.

236 Mr. E. Train  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:34:25pm

If Barry loses this time he will never be elected president. He may run again but he wont get the Dem nod. Dems dont like it when their guy loses and they treat him like yesterdays newspaper. Take a look at Kerry. Got more votes than any Dem ever... and no one pays him any attention. There's actually a bit of distain for Kerry from the 'progressives' point of view. They think he was to soft, allowed himself to be swiftboated, didnt fight back.

At best, if Barry loses, he will become an AlGore like figure. A somewhat distant, tragic figure. Mourned for what might have been (as seen from a moonbat point of view), but never allowed near the levers of power again.

237 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:34:39pm

re: #221 The Rebbitzen

vbspurs-I love your avatar. Are you going to "change" it after the election?

Good question. I feel rather affectionate towards it, especially as the previous two were Kim Jong-Il looking fruity surrounded by NoKo soldiers, and a Ghetto Nation version of Uncle Sam.

So maybe. ;)

238 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:34:51pm

re: #199 DesertSage

I have one.
It's a tiny little wolf hiding behind a green football.
It's hiding very well, too!

I think we are boycotting avatars until you bring back your little, bony dog.

239 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:34:58pm

re: #204 soccerdad

Not to mention the campaign irregularities investigation(s) that Johnny will pursue.

no he won't.....

one of the many reasons i'm not a fan.

/voting for Palin!

240 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:35:28pm

After O loses, he will go "wright" another book about it.

241 Adina in Judea  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:35:53pm

re: #236 Mr. E. Train

At best, if Barry loses, he will become an AlGore like figure. A somewhat distant, tragic figure. Mourned for what might have been (as seen from a moonbat point of view), but never allowed near the levers of power again.

Barry could lobby about global warming issues on the moon (since the Earth is taken.)

242 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:36:12pm

re: #219 theblakester

First- we have these neat features we call the "reply" and "quote" function.

Like I said, of some sorts. Know the history off the Jim crow laws suppressing the black and poor white vote to keep the white democrats in office. But something has got to give by letting idiots vote and the election fraud stealing our democracy. This is not why my neighbor is out there fighting this very moment is Afghanistan for.

Actually- yes he (or she) is in Afghanistan so stupid Americans can vote too. Do I like having ill informed idiots voting- no. I would rather all voters were informed, but you start putting measures on our rights and you will erode the foundation of this country. We are restricted enough as it is.

243 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:36:19pm

re: #238 wolfie

I have one.
It's a tiny little wolf hiding behind a green football.
It's hiding very well, too!

I think we are boycotting avatars until you bring back your little, bony dog.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the little bony dog. I'll see if I can find him again.

:')

244 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:36:28pm

re: #195 DesertSage

Do you have to have a certain number of posts to get an avatar now?

DS, some folks disabled their avatars earlier in the evening when traffic was so high and loads were slow.

245 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:36:41pm

re: #216 Sharmuta

I watched it. I can't wait for free stuff!

I'm going to walk into my local bank and ask for free stuff, and I don't mean calendars!

246 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:36:44pm

avatar test

247 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:03pm

re: #240 The Rebbitzen

After O loses, he will go "wright" another book about it.

Are we wrong to feel so confident? I don't know a single Republican here in Florida who doesn't feel optimistic right now. I realise that is part and parcel of BEING a Repub, though.

/don't mind me, I'm Catholic and feel guilty abt. everything

248 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:11pm

re: #236 Mr. E. Train

If Barry loses this time he will never be elected president. He may run again but he wont get the Dem nod. Dems dont like it when their guy loses and they treat him like yesterdays newspaper. Take a look at Kerry. Got more votes than any Dem ever... and no one pays him any attention. There's actually a bit of distain for Kerry from the 'progressives' point of view. They think he was to soft, allowed himself to be swiftboated, didnt fight back.

At best, if Barry loses, he will become an AlGore like figure. A somewhat distant, tragic figure. Mourned for what might have been (as seen from a moonbat point of view), but never allowed near the levers of power again.

That's exactly what I mean. A footnote, a guy they point to and mutter "Man, what should have been..." but exiled from the ranks of the mighty. He's their last great hope not named Hillary.

249 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:22pm

re: #235 DesertSage

It's an avatar in waiting.

Check out mine.

250 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:35pm

re: #212 BakaRanger

with that handle, do you MegaTokyo?

251 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:41pm

re: #229 NY Nana

I love you, {Nana}. Sleep well.

And honestly- it was a group effort here. I'm happy and proud that I got to be part of the team.

252 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:51pm

re: #246 middlecon

That's downright perky! :)

253 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:37:55pm

re: #218 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Cyber high-five. What part of the state you from?

254 BigJohn  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:38:09pm

re: #240 The Rebbitzen

After O loses, he will go "wright" another book about it.

Dreams From My Candidacy?

255 Billy Hank  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:38:16pm

re: #192 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Well, I wasn't around much last night so I'm sorry I missed your post. You've always got something good.

I just think it's self-evident. After the last Mexican presidential election, the Left went crazy for a few weeks and then slunk away. My only caveat would be that if the media starts making heroes of the rioters and trying to fan the flames of revolution themselves then it could get uglier and people would get hurt. Would be a telling mark of how really deep Ayers influence actually is.

If Miguelinmexico or anyone else knows how things are going now in Mexico, I'd be interested. I haven't had time to track it.

256 ElephantMan  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:38:29pm

I was hoping someone would run the analisys on Obama's and Ayer's written works...

Full story [Link: www.wnd.com...]

--------Experts affirm: Ayers wrote Obama's memoir:
Scientific analyses independently find radical's mark on 'Dreams From My Father'

Independent scientific analysis by a number of leading experts supports the literary detective work of WND columnist Jack Cashill that has led him to conclude unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers was the primary author of important sections of Barack Obama's highly acclaimed memoir and editor of the book as a whole.

Obama's 1995 book, "Dreams From My Father," won the 2006 Grammy Award for Best Spoken Word Album and drew praise from Time magazine, which called it "the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician."

But since July, Cashill has unveiled in a dozen columns, summarized here, his compelling evidence that the co-founder of the radical Weather Underground group – dismissed by Obama as "just a guy who lives in my neighborhood" – shaped and refined the book with his exceptional writing skill and radical ideas.

The evidence, Cashill says, "severely tests Obama's claim of a superficial relationship with the self-declared 'communist' Ayers. This appears to be a conscious and consequential deception."

257 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:38:32pm

re: #254 BigJohn

Dreams From My Candidacy?

LOL!

258 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:38:47pm

The Audacity of Losing.

259 Opilio  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:38:58pm

re: #191 soccerdad

This is his one and only chance. Remember McGovern in '72
1972 election electoral map

Not as bad as Mondale, 1984. 525-10. But the '72 map looks more impressive, since Massachusetts is geographically so much smaller than Minnesota.

260 BakaRanger  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:39:22pm

re: #250 redc1c4

with that handle, do you MegaTokyo?

I do now.

261 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:39:39pm

I'm going to warn you folks now- I am not going to stop advocating people get involved in the party at the local level. If you don't like what you see going on, if you want to make a difference- that is the place to start.

262 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:39:43pm

re: #230 spidly

they should get the silence of the lambs guy to do the "how it's made" on the learning channel
"it puts the wax in the mold."
"it wraps the crayon in the paper."

He's too busy giving voting instructions on behalf on ACORN.

"It marks the ballot next to the name of The One. It does this whenever it is told or it gets the hose again".

263 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:39:43pm

The Audacity of Nope.

264 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:39:46pm

re: #253 x-wing

Cyber high-five. What part of the state you from?

I'm not: I'm Canadian but work with a moonbat (Cdn.).

Spreading the wealth, I am. :)

265 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:39:50pm

re: #233 BakaRanger

Very good! LOL.

Very glad it pleased. :)

266 woodsman  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:40:03pm

re: #202 razorbacker

I've been telling people that McCain will win in a landslide for a long time saying "the people will see through BHO for the fraud he is." The silent majority took down Gore and Kerry with a whisper -- this will be a roar.

You all are tough to keep up with. Tired me out - G'night.

267 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:40:15pm

re: #247 vbspurs
My husband thinks I have lost my marbles. He asked me the other day that if O wins, will I be okay? I am emotionally tied up in this thing, but so are my friends. I just have to have a positive attitude about McCain winning. I watched "The Secret" after all!

268 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:40:29pm

re: #239 redc1c4

no he won't.....

one of the many reasons i'm not a fan.

/voting for Palin!

Me Too. I'm AGAINST BHO, not FOR McCain.

269 BigJohn  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:40:34pm

re: #258 vbspurs

Even better.

270 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:40:53pm

re: #263 Abu Al-Poopypants

Dreams of a Future: Lost.

271 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:05pm

re: #258 vbspurs

The Audacity of Losing.

[Smiles]

272 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:28pm

re: #264 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Which province?

273 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:30pm

re: #242 Sharmuta

/hands over the industrial strength clue by four

go get him!

when he's pounded flat, let us know so i can lay down the thermite and have Blue toss on the Willie Pete!

274 gmsc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:32pm

re: #191 soccerdad

This is his one and only chance. Remember McGovern in '72
1972 election electoral map

This brings up an interesting question:
Can you name the Losing Presidential Tickets since 1900?

For the young 'uns:
Can you name the Losing Presidential Tickets since 1968?

275 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:37pm

re: #263 Abu Al-Poopypants

The Audacity of Nope.

^5

(Internet high five)

276 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:42pm

re: #249 Abu Al-Poopypants

Check out mine.

That's pretty cool.

I've got my little bony dog back.

277 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:41:50pm

re: #258 vbspurs

The Audacity of Losing.

The Bus Rolls On

278 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:42:18pm

re: #272 BlueCanuck

Which province?

Alberta but born in Ontario. You?

279 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:42:40pm

re: #267 The Rebbitzen

My husband thinks I have lost my marbles. He asked me the other day that if O wins, will I be okay? I am emotionally tied up in this thing, but so are my friends. I just have to have a positive attitude about McCain winning. I watched "The Secret" after all!

Heh. I wonder if people who were adults in 1972 can tell us what it was like.

I mean, that election was like 2004 -- not just a referendum on the man, which was absolutely the case, but on the culture of the times. They were CRUSHED. Never mind that Ohio decided the election in 2004. Bush won by an astounding popular vote margin for such a polarised nation.

280 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:43:17pm

re: #278 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Ontario born and raised. Currently in T.O.

281 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:43:34pm

re: #254 BigJohn

Dreams From My Candidacy?

updinged...... although i believe it's possible you misspelled "Delusions" %-)

/white smoke

282 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:43:40pm

re: #255 Billy Hank

Well, I wasn't around much last night so I'm sorry I missed your post. You've always got something good.

I just think it's self-evident. After the last Mexican presidential election, the Left went crazy for a few weeks and then slunk away. My only caveat would be that if the media starts making heroes of the rioters and trying to fan the flames of revolution themselves then it could get uglier and people would get hurt. Would be a telling mark of how really deep Ayers influence actually is.

If Miguelinmexico or anyone else knows how things are going now in Mexico, I'd be interested. I haven't had time to track it.

Thanks. I haven't seen Miguel down in Mexico here in awhile.

283 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:43:43pm

Not the America I Knew

284 theblakester  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:01pm

re: #242 Sharmuta

My bad, Just frothing at the mouth, election fraud is a big deal and having to show I.D. would not be so difficult in my opinion. But at the same time when you have acorn going around registering the homeless, one can see how that conversation would transpire. You can bet that they are telling them that if they want to continue to get their free handouts that they need to vote Obama. And if they say anything to the contrary then you can bet that that registration gets trashed.

285 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:07pm

re: #268 soccerdad

Me Too. I'm AGAINST BHO, not FOR McCain.

Sigh. Me too. I'm voting for Sarah, against Barack Obama, and MSM.

I fear this, I confess. People who vote against stuff almost always lose to people who vote FOR someone/thing.

So I have to convince myself I am happy about John McCain.

286 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:11pm

34 years old...lets see

losing tickets since 68:

68: hmm I know that Kennedy got shot but don't know who filled in

72 McGovern/?
80 Carter/Mondale
84 Mondale/Ferraro
88 Dukakis/Benson?
92 Bush/Quayle
96 Dole/Kemp
00 Gore/Leiberman
04 Kerry/Edwards

287 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:17pm

Just checking my e-mail.......not only is a local funeral parlor going to provide free canopies at three precincts, but they just told me they're going to bring us a whole slew of chairs! (Just in case lines are long and folks, especially older ones, get tired.)

288 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:26pm

Sharmuta likes my little dog.

:)

289 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:42pm

re: #280 BlueCanuck

Ontario born and raised. Currently in T.O.

I miss Ontario. Albertans are conservative folk but I miss *cities* and stuff to do. :)

290 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:44:51pm

re: #273 redc1c4

/hands over the industrial strength clue by four

go get him!

when he's pounded flat, let us know so i can lay down the thermite and have Blue toss on the Willie Pete!

Burn, moby, burn!

291 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:45:21pm

When O loses, what is he going to do with all that extra cash? I still think McCain lost a big opportunity at one of the debates to give back the $26k he got from Fannie and challenge O to give back his $126k on live national TV. Why isn't anyone screaming about Dodd and Frank giving back that money? Not that it would make much of a dent or anything, but at this point, anything would help.

292 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:45:25pm

re: #263 Abu Al-Poopypants

The Audacity of Nope.

The Audacity of A Dope™.

293 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:45:31pm

re: #220 redc1c4

water cooled Browning 30 caliber: 36K rounds and 7 1/2 gallons of water an hour until you run out of something or a part breaks.....

kinda like a real slow minigun..... %-)

I like to tinker. So, finding myself with time to kill and stuff to tinker with, I took the stocks of a couple of Ruger 10/22s, cobbled together a half-a**ed mount, and took two off-centered cams on a crank.

It made a pretty neat little gatling-gun-type toy. Couple that with the 100 round mags and you have a great way to waste more ammo than necessary.

Eventually, though, you're going to have to explain the setup to the sheriff's office. 'Cause it does sound like a machine gun.

But it's not. Don't add a motor to the cam-crank, though. That might get problematic.

294 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:45:53pm

OK all -- good night.

I've been cheering and enjoying the Phillies victory tonight and I should have hit the rack 30 minutes ago. Yes, I've imbibed a bit too much. (but WHAT a night!)

Keep the faith and do whatever you can to take a vote from BHO. I'll probably check in tomorrow.

Check my posts.....I've been calling an electoral landslide since BHO's been the nominee.

295 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:46:03pm

re: #286 middlecon

34 years old...lets see

losing tickets since 68:

68: hmm I know that Kennedy got shot but don't know who filled in

72 McGovern/?
80 Carter/Mondale
84 Mondale/Ferraro
88 Dukakis/Benson?
92 Bush/Quayle
96 Dole/Kemp
00 Gore/Leiberman
04 Kerry/Edwards

Shriver 72. Bentsen 88.

296 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:46:12pm

Is it time for the fruitcups yet?

297 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:46:26pm

I wouldn't be surprised if 0bama's next book were called-

You're All Racists!

298 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:46:34pm

re: #264 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I'm not: I'm Canadian but work with a moonbat (Cdn.).

Spreading the wealth, I am. :)

LOL, Thanks for your support.

/and we have eeyores in our own party down here. go figure.

299 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:46:52pm

re: #296 DesertSage

Is it time for the fruitcups yet?

2am PDT.

300 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:46:58pm

Red always used to spike the fruitcups. Does he still do that?

301 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:47:23pm

re: #289 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I miss Ontario. Albertans are conservative folk but I miss *cities* and stuff to do. :)

LOL, just came from a short visit in Kelowna last week. I wish I could be out there all the time. Cities are great for finding stuff, but that's about it. A few cool people but a lot of stupid idiots.

302 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:47:23pm

re: #286 middlecon

34 years old...lets see

losing tickets since 68:

68: hmm I know that Kennedy got shot but don't know who filled in

Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie

72 McGovern/?

Thomas Eagleton originally, but Sarge Shriver ultimately.

303 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:47:28pm

re: #291 The Rebbitzen

When O loses, what is he going to do with all that extra cash? I still think McCain lost a big opportunity at one of the debates to give back the $26k he got from Fannie and challenge O to give back his $126k on live national TV. Why isn't anyone screaming about Dodd and Frank giving back that money? Not that it would make much of a dent or anything, but at this point, anything would help.

He'll keep it to use in his Senate run in 2010. Hopefully, he'll lose then too.

304 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:47:39pm

Speaking of audacity... I have to get something done. See you folks a little later.

305 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:48:03pm

re: #276 DesertSage

I missed him. :)

306 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:48:13pm

re: #295 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Shriver 72. Bentsen 88.

Yeah, but Benson won the Gubernatorial race.

;)

307 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:48:14pm

re: #274 gmsc

This brings up an interesting question:
Can you name the Losing Presidential Tickets since 1900?

For the young 'uns:
Can you name the Losing Presidential Tickets since 1968?

Interesting......last week at Trivia at Kildare's (in West Chester) the question was....Name the last ten losing candidates. I got nine right.

308 Sharmuta  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:48:32pm

re: #300 DesertSage

Red always used to spike the fruitcups. Does he still do that?

No- he enhances them.

/blue smoke

309 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:48:53pm

re: #260 BakaRanger

I do now.

then i apologize for the time you will spend catching up from day one, but welcome you to the ranks of the TPCD........ w00t!

as an old fart, it's my one vain attempt at being hip & k3w1...... won't happen, but at least it's not embarrassing. %-)

310 tommygum  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:48:58pm

re: #220 redc1c4

water cooled Browning 30 caliber: 36K rounds and 7 1/2 gallons of water an hour until you run out of something or a part breaks.....

kinda like a real slow minigun..... %-)

Reminds me of the end of the movie "Bataan".

311 BigJohn  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:49:05pm

re: #297 Sharmuta

I wouldn't be surprised if 0bama's next book were called-

You're All Racists!

That will probably be the headlines of the New York Times, or the Breaking News Alert for NBC.

312 theblakester  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:49:16pm

re: #304 Sharmuta

Good night, maybe we can brainstorm this fraud thing another time?

313 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:49:56pm

re: #297 Sharmuta

You're All Racists!

Michael Ramirez channelled you today!

314 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:50:09pm

re: #301 BlueCanuck

LOL, just came from a short visit in Kelowna last week. I wish I could be out there all the time. Cities are great for finding stuff, but that's about it. A few cool people but a lot of stupid idiots.

BC's great but a little left for my liking. I'm an atheist Republican (or would be if I was American...) and that catches some funny looks. "How can you be Repub. leaning as an atheist?"

315 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:50:10pm

re: #300 DesertSage

Oh yes he does, we've even let him do it for the past couple of months. With all the shenanigans going on this election cycle we figured the lizards deserved a chemical break. :)

/loved the melting walls and colours yesterday.

316 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:50:22pm

re: #295 Badge of Kaffir Pride

1968 Humphrey/Muskie-lost to Nixon

317 soccerdad  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:50:28pm

re: #263 Abu Al-Poopypants

The Audacity of Nope.


GREAT Nic! (and a good tag line as well)

318 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:50:53pm

No hope....hype.

The people are under hype-nosis!

319 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:50:55pm

re: #291 The Rebbitzen

When O loses, what is he going to do with all that extra cash? I still think McCain lost a big opportunity at one of the debates to give back the $26k he got from Fannie and challenge O to give back his $126k on live national TV. Why isn't anyone screaming about Dodd and Frank giving back that money? Not that it would make much of a dent or anything, but at this point, anything would help.

he's going to retire to Kenya and run for office there.....

%-)

320 wolfie  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:51:05pm

ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........
Goodnight all !
Keep up the good fight.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

321 BlueCanuck  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:51:22pm

re: #304 Sharmuta

Later fellow blue one. I have the rest of the night covered. See you at fruit cup.

322 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:51:37pm

Well, I should say goodnight too, although I will probably stay up for Red Eye. :P

Night all!

323 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:51:56pm

re: #319 redc1c4
Yeah, maybe his brother will give him a cot to sleep on in his shack.

324 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:52:19pm

I left out 76

I know Ford was the presidential candidate but don't know off the top of my head who was the VP.

325 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:52:34pm

Red-eye?

We have Red-c

326 SurferDoc  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:52:54pm

re: #323 The Rebbitzen

Yeah, maybe his brother will give him a cot to sleep on in his shack.

...and charge him rent?

327 vbspurs  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:00pm

re: #324 middlecon

I left out 76

I know Ford was the presidential candidate but don't know off the top of my head who was the VP.

Dole...

328 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:01pm

re: #316 The Rebbitzen

1968 Humphrey/Muskie-lost to Nixon

I don't dispute. LOL I only answered 72 and Bentsen's spelling. :)

329 BakaRanger  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:17pm

re: #309 redc1c4

then i apologize for the time you will spend catching up from day one, but welcome you to the ranks of the TPCD........ w00t!

as an old fart, it's my one vain attempt at being hip & k3w1...... won't happen, but at least it's not embarrassing. %-)

It looks like I will have to wait a while before digging in:::::::::::::

((.Believe it or not, the (page) is in production and will be incorporated into the new site launch. We just are not including them as part of this beta test (because they still need some work).))

330 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:22pm

Middlecon....you got an avatar!

Bravo!

331 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:24pm

re: #297 Sharmuta

I wouldn't be surprised if 0bama's next book were called-

You're All Racists!

i don't care waht anybody says: dat right dere is funny as hell.

332 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:39pm

re: #327 vbspurs

Dole...


Wow Dole and Mondale lost as Both President and VP, the rejection must hurt lol

333 Intrepid  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:53:44pm

It's official: Hell has indeed frozen over.

CBS now questioning Obama's economics after his infomercial!

First the AP, now CBS. And CBS even ran the Obamercial on their own network!

334 Opilio  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:55:12pm

re: #274 gmsc

This brings up an interesting question:
Can you name the Losing Presidential Tickets since 1900?

For the young 'uns:
Can you name the Losing Presidential Tickets since 1968?

1928 - Al Smith ?
1932 - H. Hoover
1936 - Alf Landon?
1940 - W. Wilkie?
1944 - ?
1948 - Thomas Dewey
1952 - Adlai Stevenson
1956 - Adlai Stevenson
1960 - Richard Nixon
1964 - Barry Goldwater
1968 - Hubert Humphrey, George Wallace

335 TheMatrix31  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:56:00pm

re: #313 vbspurs

Michael Ramirez channelled you today!

That is almost as good as the ObaMarx one.

336 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:56:12pm

re: #333 Intrepid

It's official: Hell has indeed frozen over.

CBS now questioning Obama's economics after his infomercial!

First the AP, now CBS. And CBS even ran the Obamercial on their own network!

They may have actually paid attention to what Obama was saying instead of simply cheering. Once you actually think about what Obama is promising, it loses its luster fast.

337 DesertSage  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:56:38pm

Okay, just to change the topic for a bit.

Can anyone tell me why there's more arctic sea ice today then there was a year ago?

[Link: igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...]

338 NY Nana  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:56:51pm

re: #251 Sharmuta

{Sharm}....don't be so modest! Wish there was a prize for you and the others who are fighting to make this election a clean one.

The ones who register illegally should be taken to Court and fined, and jailed for a repeat offence. Damn, letting them get away with it will only encourage it. I know how many times we all say 'There ought to be a law!'...in this case? Yes, there absolutely should, and this early voting crap needs to be outlawed in all 50 states..absentee ballots are one thing, but this? It makes our system a joke to those who so readily abuse it.

Thank you, and bless you!

G'nite for real!

339 spidly  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:57:18pm

re: #333 Intrepid

It's official: Hell has indeed frozen over.

CBS now questioning Obama's economics after his infomercial!

First the AP, now CBS. And CBS even ran the Obamercial on their own network!

maybe it's the Sarkozy effect. "Hey, if a frog thinks this guy is a cheese eating surrender monkey....holy shit!"

340 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:57:55pm

A media mutiny? How dare they?

This is one thing that can really only help McCain/hurt Obama since there is no McCain informercial to pick apart.

341 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:58:08pm

What's the closest EV election in US History? (Not trivia, just asking.)

342 x-wing  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:58:23pm

re: #300 DesertSage

Red always used to spike the fruitcups. Does he still do that?

Yes, Everclear baby.

/made me un-clear last time

343 Piglet-U93  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:58:29pm

re: #336 Dark_Falcon

Maybe hypnosis does not work in the infomercial format or has a certain time limit.

344 redc1c4  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:58:47pm

ok: now that we've ID'd all the mobys, trolls, what have you, and the daylight creatures have unassed the AO, i think it's time to get down to the serious business of the LNDT!

can i get a second on the motion?

345 The Rebbitzen  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:59:21pm

re: #333 Intrepid It's a hedging strategy. They know they are toast when O loses.

346 Outrider  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:59:52pm

re: #175 blink

I don't expect violence in the inner cities. Those folks recognize BO as a fraud. I expect violence by the great (white) unwashed loitering around major college and university campuses and in the liberal cities of the west coast.

I expect rioting and sporadic violence precisely because the Democrat party is now largely composed of exactly the type of people described in #151 by VBspurs. Keep in mind this mentality riots when ball teams lose.....or win sometimes. Or if a court verdict goes against their wishes.

347 razorbacker  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:59:55pm

re: #333 Intrepid

It's official: Hell has indeed frozen over.

CBS now questioning Obama's economics after his infomercial!

First the AP, now CBS. And CBS even ran the Obamercial on their own network!

The fun is in the comments.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Scott Brundage...

Shame on you CBS.

I will not argue here with the writer''s opinions.

But publishing this asa News Story is a dark shame.

When Ed Murrow spoke an oppinion, we saw or heard it clearly as opinion, as when he did it AFTER a long news report in which there was a legitimate attempt at objectivity.

At thelvery least this should have been labeled as an OPINION column. It does not rise to the level of news journalism.

It certainly is a black mark upon the edifice that is the reputation for ehtics that CBS has been.

Not a chink in the armor. A Very Large hole from a self inflicted cannon wound.

I have been proud to be a member of the same "media" as CBS. Yoday,,, I am ashamed.

Scott Brundage

You can't make that sh*t up!

348 middlecon  Wed, Oct 29, 2008 11:59:57pm

re: #341 Badge of Kaffir Pride

What's the closest EV election in US History? (Not trivia, just asking.)

In recent times its 2000...5 EV's...not sure about all time.

349 spidly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:00:13am

you think that he has acknowledged raising capital gains and other taxes would reduce revenues but should still be be done as a matter of fairness, would give them a fucking clue that his economic plan is shit.

350 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:00:18am

re: #344 redc1c4

Seconded.

/unfortunately I am on the wagon for health issues. :(

351 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:00:20am

re: #340 middlecon

A media mutiny? How dare they?

This is one thing that can really only help McCain/hurt Obama since there is no McCain informercial to pick apart.

Now that I agree with. I would now move to have all moby charges against middlecon dismissed.

352 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:01:44am

re: #343 Piglet-U93

Maybe hypnosis does not work in the infomercial format or has a certain time limit.

It can wear off, but the surest cure is to spot the hand reaching for your wallet.

353 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:02:06am

Wyatt Andrews and Calvin Woodward must have drawn some seriously short straws tonight to have to write 'It don't add up' articles about the Obama informercial lol

354 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:02:31am

re: #348 middlecon

In recent times its 2000...5 EV's...not sure about all time.

I forgot about that one. My bad.

Another question that popped into my head: what's the first state (if called for McCain) that would make 4 November a night to get happy? I think if PA goes McCain, it's over and you can probably throw NH in at the same time if PA is R.

355 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:02:38am

re: #300 DesertSage

Red always used to spike the fruitcups. Does he still do that?

like a page on the Obanal web site, every fruitcup is subject to editing.....

it's the "Audacity of Amelioration" %-)

356 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:02:52am

After McCain wins I figure the left has lost a billion dollars in campaign contributions. Now that has to really make a dent for some paying off those credit card bills.

357 x-wing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:03:01am

re: #344 redc1c4

Second and third. I've got a head start, just for the record.

358 Tamron  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:03:04am

re: #4 captwfcall

i want Tuesday to be here already. where's the Delorean when you need it? '88 miles an hour!'


You aren't putting out 1.2 billion jigawatts, so you need to rebuild your Flux Capacitor.
.

359 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:03:26am

re: #347 razorbacker

heh, can't wait for Obama to lose to watch an acquaintnce head to pop. Had the audacity to call him the next president and said his policies tonight made sense. Guy ran in the last election for the NDP(socialists), and didn't even show up at any of the candidate debates/meet and greets scheduled.

/only got the diehard NDP vote and finished third out of 4.
//greens did worse then him.

360 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:03:57am

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

361 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:04:08am

re: #347 razorbacker

You can't make that sh*t up!

Yes, and what does "thelvery" mean? Poor ol' Scott can't spell worth a damn. And the CBS piece actually ran the Obama plans' numbers, and the facts were that they don't add up!

The Obama worshipers are so messed up that they view the simpering drivel of Chris Matthews as news, and actual facts-based news as "oppinion" (Scott's spelling again)

All emotion, all the time with them.

362 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:04:51am

re: #350 BlueCanuck

Seconded.

/unfortunately I am on the wagon for health issues. :(

she threatened to kick yer butt?

(or worse, cut you off? %-)

/white smoke

363 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:04:51am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

Climate CHANGE?

/had snow that stuck around here for a bit yesterday.
//bloody cold for the end of October here.

364 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:05:21am

Post election analysis will show that McCain won because of the PUMAs and this will most likely insure Hillary's nomination in the next election.

365 spidly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:06:05am

re: #354 Badge of Kaffir Pride

I forgot about that one. My bad.

Another question that popped into my head: what's the first state (if called for McCain) that would make 4 November a night to get happy? I think if PA goes McCain, it's over and you can probably throw NH in at the same time if PA is R.

well, murtha's inbred banjo pickers will probably be too busy gettin' busy with the kin around the still to make it to the polls

366 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:06:18am

re: #363 BlueCanuck

Climate CHANGE?

/had snow that stuck around here for a bit yesterday.
//bloody cold for the end of October here.

It was 96 in LA today.

But I was wondering about the arctic sea ice.

367 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:06:30am

re: #362 redc1c4

No to both. Have a couple of drinks and I am up half the night fighting heartburn. Dosen't matter what I eat or drink before or during. Figured I would just swear off it for awhile and see what happens. Went through this once before. No booze for six months and things were good.

368 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:06:42am

re: #356 Piglet-U93

After McCain wins I figure the left has lost a billion dollars in campaign contributions. Now that has to really make a dent for some paying off those credit card bills.

One Billion reasons why Obama will not get a second shot at it.

369 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:06:58am

re: #362 redc1c4

she threatened to kick yer butt?

(or worse, cut you off? %-)

/white smoke

What does the smoke color signify?

White smoke, green smoke, blue smoke, yellow smoke: I'm confused.

370 BakaRanger  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:07:26am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

Maybe the poles are shifting and its new location is coldest?

371 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:07:30am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

No matter what the facts are on sea ice or any other thing, people that are convinced that the Earth should only stay in the climate state that they are now experiencing won't pay any attention to anything that disagrees with their emotions.

372 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:07:33am

re: #366 DesertSage

Yeah, that's L.A., I am talking Lake Ontario here. Current temp is 32° F.

373 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:07:47am

re: #324 middlecon

I left out 76

I know Ford was the presidential candidate but don't know off the top of my head who was the VP.

Those were links - you can click on them, and play against the clock. They'll even give you the answers afterwards!

(BTW, there's a great list, updated every day, of "How Many Xs Can You Name In Y Minutes?"-type quizzes here)

374 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:08:06am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

Uhm, it's colder than it has been for a good while?

375 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:08:31am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

No to both. Have a couple of drinks and I am up half the night fighting heartburn. Dosen't matter what I eat or drink before or during. Figured I would just swear off it for awhile and see what happens. Went through this once before. No booze for six months and things were good.

Try cutting back on the sugar and the caffeine, too. Those drive my heartburn. More than one 24oz coffee and I'm burping and heartburn all day.

376 razorbacker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:08:38am

re: #359 BlueCanuck


/only got the diehard NDP vote and finished third out of 4.

Were he an optimist, he could have claimed to have been 'first, but for two others'.

377 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:08:50am

re: #357 x-wing

Second and third. I've got a head start, just for the record.

it's okay, i'm pretty much rounding third and headed for home by the time the LNDT crosses the departure line...... not that keeps me from staying up way too long anyway..... %-)

were you a 19 series with the 2nd?

378 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:09:32am

re: #375 Badge of Kaffir Pride

Only alcohol puts me over the edge. Usually drink two large coffees a day when I am working and thats it.

379 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:09:38am

re: #372 BlueCanuck

Yeah, that's L.A., I am talking Lake Ontario here. Current temp is 32° F.

Oh.

I thought you were talking about Ontario, CA.

Never mind.

380 x-wing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:09:47am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

No to both. Have a couple of drinks and I am up half the night fighting heartburn. Dosen't matter what I eat or drink before or during. Figured I would just swear off it for awhile and see what happens. Went through this once before. No booze for six months and things were good.

Sounds like you have something in your body that doesn't agree with booze. Find out what it is and have it removed.

/

381 Opilio  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:10:45am

re: #358 Tamron

You aren't putting out 1.2 billion jigawatts, so you need to rebuild your Flux Capacitor.
.

1.2 gigawatts = 1,200,000,000 watts.
1.2 billion gigiwatts = 1,200,000,000,000,000,000 watts.
U.S. electrical generation capacity ~1,100 gigawatts

382 razorbacker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:10:54am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

AlBore been sightseeing up North?

Lack o' sunspots?

Gorebullwarming is a fraud?

All those hot-blooded polar bears died off, so now the poor ice has a chance?

Pick one.

383 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:10:57am

re: #363 BlueCanuck

Climate CHANGE?

/had snow that stuck around here for a bit yesterday.
//bloody cold for the end of October here.

it's been 90mumble here pretty much every day for the last few weeks.....

not complaining: i'm using the pool every afternoon after chores, to enjoy the day's first few beers. %-)

/lurve my solar cover!

384 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:11:09am

Getting very tired. Time to turn in for the night.

385 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:11:33am

re: #378 BlueCanuck

Only alcohol puts me over the edge. Usually drink two large coffees a day when I am working and thats it.

Seriously, try the coffee. When I mix the two, I get the same as you. I can either drink coffee or Sam Adams but not both the same day.

/Y'all know how hard it is to find Sam in Canada?

386 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:11:38am

re: #371 middlecon

No matter what the facts are on sea ice or any other thing, people that are convinced that the Earth should only stay in the climate state that they are now experiencing won't pay any attention to anything that disagrees with their emotions.

People should be aware of the arctic sea ice.

[Link: igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...]

This could mean that AlGore is incorrect!

387 Opilio  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:11:53am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

I'm in favor of sea ice.

388 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:12:19am

Did anyone catch Big Brother's 0bama's infomercial tonight?

I can't figure out how this could help him at this point. I mean, I think even the more uninformed voters- after being told what dire economic straits we're in- will likely wonder what the cost of running a 30-minute spot like that on prime-time TV would be and doubt wether or not that was the best investment his campaign could've made.

And if he's showing such poor decision-making regarding financing on the campaign level, what makes them think that he'd show any better judgement once he got into the White House....

389 x-wing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:12:37am

re: #369 Dark_Falcon

What does the smoke color signify?

White smoke, green smoke, blue smoke, yellow smoke: I'm confused.

I wrote it down.

white_cover
yellow-target fire
purple-sarc
green-kook ID'd
white star cluster-all clear
yellow "-ceasefire
red "-danger

390 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:13:01am

re: #376 razorbacker

Were he an optimist, he could have claimed to have been 'first, but for two others'.

I was in Canada last month. I never saw so many campaign posters in all my life. One ever 15 feet in the whole city of Montreal.

A significant number of posters had some interesting mutilations.

I can see why the conservative party is doing better. The left is splintered into three groups.

391 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:13:01am

Well, I'm going to sleep and dream of arctic sea ice.

392 razorbacker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:13:05am

Been real. Been fun. But as the Yiddish folks say down south, Ah gute nakht, y'all.

393 spidly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:13:17am

re: #382 razorbacker

AlBore been sightseeing up North?

Lack o' sunspots?

Gorebullwarming is a fraud?

All those hot-blooded polar bears died off, so now the poor ice has a chance?

Pick one.

atlantic conveyor has stopped

394 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:13:20am

re: #367 BlueCanuck

No to both. Have a couple of drinks and I am up half the night fighting heartburn. Dosen't matter what I eat or drink before or during. Figured I would just swear off it for awhile and see what happens. Went through this once before. No booze for six months and things were good.

i'm thinking GERD. see a GI specialist asap. ETOH is likely not your only issue.

/not medical advice, or a diagnosis, just a polite suggestion.

YMMV.

395 BakaRanger  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:13:48am

re: #388 Fenway_Nation

Did anyone catch Big Brother's 0bama's infomercial tonight?

I can't figure out how this could help him at this point. I mean, I think even the more uninformed voters- after being told what dire economic straits we're in- will likely wonder what the cost of running a 30-minute spot like that on prime-time TV would be and doubt wether or not that was the best investment his campaign could've made.

And if he's showing such poor decision-making regarding financing on the campaign level, what makes them think that he'd show any better judgement once he got into the White House....

No child was ever fed by a 30 minute political infomercial.

396 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:14:14am

re: #389 x-wing

I wrote it down.

white_cover
yellow-target fire
purple-sarc
green-kook ID'd
white star cluster-all clear
yellow "-ceasefire
red "-danger

What? No red star clusters? Or green?

397 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:14:19am

re: #389 x-wing

I wrote it down.

white_cover
yellow-target fire
purple-sarc
green-kook ID'd
white star cluster-all clear
yellow "-ceasefire
red "-danger

What about the blue smoke?

398 spidly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:14:29am

re: #394 redc1c4

i'm thinking GERD. see a GI specialist asap. ETOH is likely not your only issue.

/not medical advice, or a diagnosis, just a polite suggestion.

YMMV.

he needs gov health care and cheese

399 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:14:51am

re: #358 Tamron

You aren't putting out 1.2 billion jigawatts, so you need to rebuild your Flux Capacitor.
.

Geek pet peeve:

It's 1.21 jigawatts!

400 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:14:59am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

it's cold?

401 razorbacker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:15:23am

re: #393 spidly

atlantic conveyor has stopped

Wait an minute. Really? Or did you just make that up right there?

402 x-wing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:15:23am

re: #377 redc1c4

Yeah, 19E 2/1 Cav. for a short while.

I'll be around late myself, day off tomorrow.

/no where to go,and all day to get there.

403 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:15:30am

re: #397 DesertSage

What about the blue smoke?

Blue smoke? Never seen that used.

404 spidly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:15:37am

re: #400 redc1c4

it's cold?

it sank the titanic

405 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:16:23am

re: #400 redc1c4

it's cold?

Ice. Would rather "see ice" on TV only.

406 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:16:55am

re: #360 DesertSage

No thoughts on the sea ice?

Anyone?

I'm not falling for that. My sister used to ask me, while we were eating, if I liked seafood . . .

407 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:17:09am

Little by little, folks seem to be waking up.

McCain now trusted more than Obama - on TAXES

408 Badge of Kaffir Pride  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:17:41am

Night night, all. 5 more days!

409 tommygum  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:17:48am

re: #391 DesertSage

Well, I'm going to sleep and dream of arctic sea ice.

I'm gonna dream about Sarah Palin......

410 Opilio  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:17:55am

re: #386 DesertSage

People should be aware of the arctic sea ice.

[Link: igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu...]

This could mean that AlGore is incorrect!

It didn't get much notice last year when the Antarctic ice extent reached a 30 year high either.

411 spidly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:17:55am

re: #401 razorbacker

Wait an minute. Really? Or did you just make that up right there?

that was the "day after tomorrow" meme to explain why global warming is still global warming even when it gets colder. it is, of course, a huge load of shite

412 tommygum  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:19:42am

re: #397 DesertSage

What about the blue smoke?

That surrounds the Cutts compensator.

413 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:19:53am

re: #386 DesertSage

Went as far back as 79, and did 10 year comparisons. Not much difference really. Less in 1998, but not a whole lot less.

414 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 12:20:09am

re: #389 x-wing

I wrote it down.

white_cover
yellow-target fire
purple-sarc
green-kook ID'd
white star cluster-all clear
yellow "-ceasefire
red "-danger

AFM/UMA: you had to be there......

Smoke and Pyro

White Smoke---Covering/Screening only
Yellow Smoke---Designated target (Fire at will)
Purple Smoke---All after is sarcastic
Green Smoke---Kook Identifed
White Star Cluster---All Clear
Yellow Star Cluster---Cease-fire
Red Star Cluster---Danger