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Politico Lists the Worst of the Stupid Rumors

Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:30:13 pm PDT

You didn’t see a single one of these stupid, ugly rumors promoted by LGF, and we’re proud of that. Shame on the right-wing bloggers who let their fears convince them to throw their credibility away (you know who they are). This stuff has been very damaging to the McCain campaign, and has probably contributed to Barack Obama’s ability to skate on the real issue of his long history of associations with some of the most radical extremists in America: Cover this! Inside the nastiest ’08 rumors.

They missed one, though: the “Bill Ayers was the ghostwriter for Barack Obama’s books” rumor.

And what about the absolutely insane garbage about Sarah Palin, promoted by idiots like Andrew Sullivan? Sullivan spent weeks demanding that Palin submit to DNA testing to prove she, and not her daughter, was the mother of Trig Palin. That doesn’t count?

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1 ArmyWife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:32:23pm

It pays to engage your brain before your mouth, or keyboard in this case.

2 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:32:56pm

I'm sure they will follow this up with a list of stupid rumors about Sarah Palin.

3 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:33:50pm

Somehow they overlooked the nastiest one of all: that Sarah Palin is not the mother of Trig.

4 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:33:55pm

Did I miss the Palin rumors? I didn't see any in the article and they were by far the worst of this campaign. A new low reached altogether.

5 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:34:25pm

The other problem with these rumors is that most of them don't have the grip, traction, or effect that their stupid perpetrators think they do. If you are going to descend to political dirty trick level at least pick something that will work asswipes.

6 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:34:28pm

re: #2 loppyd

I'm sure they will follow this up with a list of stupid rumors about Sarah Palin.

They did cover some of the McCain rumors. It's not a completely biased article, for once.

7 a marine mom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:35:22pm

Charles,

You won't let lies spew onto the pages of your web site because you take pride in your reporting unlike the MSM.

Thank you.

8 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:36:00pm

re: #2 loppyd

I'm sure they will follow this up with a list of stupid rumors about Sarah Palin.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

9 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:36:11pm

OT:

What is the 1998 dinner that Hannity/Colmes is supposedly showing video of this evening?

10 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:36:12pm

The truth about Barack Obama is bad enough; no need to throw around a bunch of rumors that only make us look bad.

11 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:36:41pm

Do they debunk the biggest rumor - that Politico has any value as a political site?
;)

12 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:37:19pm

re: #2 loppyd

Oh, of course they will. But there were no malicious rumors about Sarah Palin. Just honest questions about whether her youngest was really her child.

Important stuff.

13 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:37:47pm

There's plenty of reason to vote against him on policy, if the truth about his policy was ever allowed to get out.

14 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:38:18pm

re: #6 Charles

They did cover some of the McCain rumors. It's not a completely biased article, for once.

But still no Sarah Palin rumors.

No Chia Pet rumors either, though.

15 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:38:57pm

My favorite is Holiday in Fiji. I had never heard that one before. I am hugely amused at the image of Senator McCain, after too many umbrella drinks, reading Benjy's portion of "The Sound and the Fury" to confused tourists.

16 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:39:17pm

I'm surprised that one of the "rumors" isn't "Barack is just TOO wonderful"

17 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:40:18pm

re: #14 loppyd

But still no Sarah Palin rumors.

No Chia Pet rumors either, though.

Updated to point that out.

18 ziggyelman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:40:36pm

I don't know, the Ayers as ghost writer rumor didn't seem too off. How did a guy who never wrote anything to speak of , all of the sudden write 2 very well written books? From what I saw of Ayers' writting, it was I am sad to say, good.
Hey, It's not quite Obama is the Anti-Christ! ;)

19 onslow  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:41:17pm

Did they debunk the rumor of John Edwards' love child? Uh..nevermind.

20 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:41:19pm

So if I started a blog called "Sportso" I'd immediately become an expert on who's going to win the next football game? I've played, watched and studied sports for 30 years....

21 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:41:22pm

re: #12 Iron Fist

I liked the "affair with Todd's business parter" one. Isn't that the one that had its origin in a motion by the partner to seal his divorce/custody records because their address and phone numbers were documented and he didn't want his young son to be harassed?

From that bit of trivia the loons came up with "OMG! HE HAD AN AFFAIR WITH GOVERNOR PALIN AND THAT'S WHY HE DOESN'T WANT US TO SEE HIS DIVORCE RECORDS!"

22 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:41:29pm

Another vicious rumor is Obama has a gaffe-tastic running mate. Anyone seen this person around lately?

23 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:41:37pm

Wonder why they didn't cover the rumor about Bristol being Trig's mother. Or the rumor about Track being an out of control druggie. Or the rumor about Sarah having an affair.

24 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:42:25pm

Sorry. I have to admit that one about McCain forcing people in Fiji to listen to him read Faulkner is just priceless. ROFLMAO.
I can't help it. I love it. :D :D :D

25 vegasjew  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:42:30pm

Very depressing today,feel like time is running out.

26 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:42:51pm

The Obama camp has been promoting a rumor that Obama and his charming wife love America. Definitely file that one under fiction.

27 Tigger2005  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:42:59pm

I don't want to be a spreader of false rumors, but I don't think it's such a stretch to think that SOMEBODY, or SOMEBODIES, other than Barack Obama wrote those "auto" biographies. It's quite common to have autobiographies ghostwritten, and Obama shows no real writing ability up until he suddenly pens these two eloquent pieces of self-promotion.

To be honest, I'm also not quite sure why it's a stretch to think Ayers might have ghostwritten at least one of them. What exactly puts this beyond the realm of speculation? It doesn't seem any more extreme than zombie advancing the possibility that Obama was present during the Weather Underground attack that blinded the policeman.

28 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:43:00pm

re: #20 shay4l

So if I started a blog called "Sportso" I'd immediately become an expert on who's going to win the next football game? I've played, watched and studied sports for 30 years....

It'd have to be catchier... something like "Sportico"

29 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:43:11pm

There's a reason there are so many rumors about Obama, and, yes, Palin, even though Politico didn't seem too interested in those, and fewer about McCain and Biden. McCain and Biden have been around for donkey's years and are pretty well-known. Rumors will gain traction with unknown candidates.

Of course, unknown candidates are usually the ones able to claim ethical behavior and Character with a capital C in politics, because so little is known of them. McCain's (generally) an exception to that rule since the Keating Five affair.

30 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:43:15pm

Politics: All madness lately.

However, here are some excellent clouds.


BBL

31 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:43:17pm

They forgot the nasty one about Biden being a plagiarist!

/oh....forget I mentioned that

32 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:43:25pm

BTW, this is totally off topic and self-serving, but today is my birthday. You may now return to your regularly scheduled snark.

33 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:43:27pm

Obama Loses By One Vote: Blame Your Friends With This Customizable Video by MoveOn.org

MoveOn designed this to make a liberal look bad, but it works almost equally well to make a conservative look good!

34 ArmyWife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:44:03pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

Happy birthday!

35 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:44:06pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

Happy Birthday

36 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:44:07pm

re: #17 Charles

Updated to point that out.

Cool. Thanks!

37 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:44:29pm

re: #28 Thanos

It'd have to be catchier... something like "Sportico"

I ... am Sportico!

38 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:44:34pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

Happy birthday.

39 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:01pm

re: #37 shay4l

I ... am Sportico!

Or maybe even "Sporticus"

40 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:01pm

re: #24 wolfie

Sorry. I have to admit that one about McCain forcing people in Fiji to listen to him read Faulkner is just priceless. ROFLMAO.
I can't help it. I love it. :D :D :D

I know! "And now, for your listening pleasure, Absalom! Absalom!"

41 Dalibama  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:18pm

I think Ayers helped Obama with his book. Of course, it's speculative but the similarity in style and substance are real. Andrew McCarthy at NRO took a lot of heat for writing about it. Ed Lasky at the American Thinker posted two of Cashill's articles. That's given it some respectability.

It's not even if Obama used Ayers, it's what it says about the man if he did.

42 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:27pm

re: #27 Tigger2005

I don't want to be a spreader of false rumors, but I don't think it's such a stretch to think that SOMEBODY, or SOMEBODIES, other than Barack Obama wrote those "auto" biographies. It's quite common to have autobiographies ghostwritten, and Obama shows no real writing ability up until he suddenly pens these two eloquent pieces of self-promotion.

To be honest, I'm also not quite sure why it's a stretch to think Ayers might have ghostwritten at least one of them. What exactly puts this beyond the realm of speculation? It doesn't seem any more extreme than zombie advancing the possibility that Obama was present during the Weather Underground attack that blinded the policeman.

This rumor was started by a creationist, who wrote a book insinuating that the Clintons murdered Ron Brown.

Sorry, but the credibility factor here is nil.

43 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:41pm

I'm also fond of the Obama hypnotism. I guess they can't cover all the stupid rumors.

44 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:41pm

re: #21 Intrepid

I didn't hear that one. There were clearly different standards as to what qualified as "legitimate" questions and what was off limits. Sarah Palin's [insert rumor here] were legitimate questions.

Obama's affiliations with retired terrorists? Not so much.

45 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:49pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

BTW, this is totally off topic and self-serving, but today is my birthday. You may now return to your regularly scheduled snark.


I don't get it. It clearly says you became a lizard on June 16, 2004.

You have another birthday?
;)

46 mikeymom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:45:54pm

doppel--the drink of your choice is on me!

47 ziggyelman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:02pm

re: #31 Irene NYC

They forgot the nasty one about Biden being a plagiarist!

/oh....forget I mentioned that


Hey! Only once in College! Well, and once while a Senator...but, that's it!

48 pink freud  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:09pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

Happy Birthday doppelganglander!

And may you enjoy many more. :-)

49 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:12pm

re: #41 Dalibama

I think Ayers helped Obama with his book. Of course, it's speculative but the similarity in style and substance are real. Andrew McCarthy at NRO took a lot of heat for writing about it. Ed Lasky at the American Thinker posted two of Cashill's articles. That's given it some respectability.

It's not even if Obama used Ayers, it's what it says about the man if he did.

Andrew McCarthy pulled his article offline.

50 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:16pm
51 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:23pm
But liberal partisans have blamed McCain for crashing as many as five planes, including one that supposedly led to the 1967 disaster on the U.S. Forrestal, where an explosion killed 134 sailors. McCain's plane was among those consumed by flames, and a historian of the crash wrote that he "narrowly escaped death."

According to the claim, publicized on the liberal site TruthDig.com, McCain could have started the fire by engaging in a risky maneuver called a "wet start," in which a pilot leaves fuel on the deck to flame behind him when he takes off.

Um, so, whas it a crash or an engine start? No it was an errant rocket firing from another plane behind McCain's.

/USS Forrestal Mishap July 29, 1967

52 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:24pm

re: #39 Thanos

Or maybe even "Sporticus"

That's IT!

53 ArmyWife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:46:26pm

Ok all. I am going to go read a bit.

54 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:47:05pm

re: #40 arethusa

I know! "And now, for your listening pleasure, Absalom! Absalom!"

Hey! That's from the Rush song "New World Man"!

55 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:47:06pm

Uhhh, the point is that the rumors are stupid.

56 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:47:07pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

Happy Birthday, doppelganglander! Don't know who said it, but remember this:

Birthdays are good for you. Statistics show that the people who have the most live the longest.

;-)

57 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:47:13pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

BTW, this is totally off topic and self-serving, but today is my birthday. You may now return to your regularly scheduled snark.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

58 ClosetConservative  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:47:44pm

While questioning Obama's associations is a worthwhile pursuit, I don't think it's the best way to get voters right now. The people who haven't decided now will vote on who has the best smile and one-liner AND whose policies can be reduced to one line. These are the low-information voters. The fact of the matter is that America is full of political neophytes (sorry, I sound snooty, but I don't mean it like I say it) and that your average political argument is reduced to 'Obama is a terrorist, McCain is Bush's twin'. I hear it every day. The narrative we need to carry through Election Day is simple.

McCain will lower your taxes. Obama will raise them.

Rinse, lather, repeat. I know it's a cynical way of looking at the way a lot of people see the elections, but we can't depend on every voter really caring whether or not Obama's economic policies are populist pandering crap. We know they are, but unfortunately many people don't care to do the research. And it's not all their fault, either. A lot of people are working multiple jobs among other commitments and just don't have time to tune into politics.

These people are the bread and butter of the United States. Politics can be so abstract sometimes with all the fiery rhetoric and soaring promises. If political conservatives are going to have any sway in a democratic society, we need to learn how to get people with short attention spans to vote our way.

59 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:47:56pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout

Uhhh, the point is that the rumors are stupid.

We should leave the wild-eyed crazy rumors to the koslings.

60 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:48:15pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

BTW, this is totally off topic and self-serving, but today is my birthday. You may now return to your regularly scheduled snark.

Happy Birthday!

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:48:31pm
62 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:48:32pm

re: #59 Sharmuta

Agreed.

63 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:48:52pm

Happy birthday doppleganglander.

Come to think of it, it's my half birthday. I think I'll have a drink.

64 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:49:12pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout

Uhhh, the point is that the rumors are stupid.

Sporticus sez...

Eli Manning has a hangnail. Bet on Dallas, big

65 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:49:22pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

BTW, this is totally off topic and self-serving, but today is my birthday. You may now return to your regularly scheduled snark.

Better yet . . .Happy Birthday!

66 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:49:26pm

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

67 mikeymom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:49:34pm

re: #63 JammieWearingFool

i'll buy you a 1/2 drink of your choice, too!

68 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:49:57pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

That's greatly appreciated.

69 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:50:05pm

OK sorry for the OT attempts at humor. No more

70 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:50:06pm
71 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:50:39pm

The rumors have been ridiculous. That being said it's no wonder they are out there,Obama has refused to release the most basic information about himself. A person gets pretty suspicious of someone who blocks access to everything he has done for the last 20 years.

72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:51:10pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

Impossible. We'd all have to lose a clue.
/

73 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:51:17pm

Giving in to these rumors is idiotarian- that's not what we're supposed to be.

74 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:51:19pm

I have always maintained that it is not reasonable to paint one of the candidates as the anti-Christ, because one of them is going to win.

75 Cognito  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:51:32pm
Sullivan spent weeks demanding that Palin submit to DNA testing to prove she, and not her daughter, was the mother of Trig Palin.

Aw, man, I didn't know Andrew had gone down that particular path.

That's damaging.

76 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:51:59pm

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

The whole affiliation with Ayers should have been a big, red (literally :-) flag. You don't just happen to fall into the orbit of someone like that by accident. You don't have a decades long affiliation with them, either.

It just doesn't pass the smell test.

77 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:52:02pm

re: #54 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hey! That's from the Rush song "New World Man"!

So McCain is a Rush fan as well as an ABBA fan?/

78 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:52:03pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

LGF != sok yliad

Keep up the good work Charles.

79 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:52:30pm

re: #75 Cognito

Aw, man, I didn't know Andrew had gone down that particular path.

That's damaging.

How is it damaging?

80 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:53:11pm

re: #72 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Impossible. We'd all have to lose a clue.
/

It's not impossible, unfortunately. I've been battling this crap for months, and people just keep coming back with it.

81 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:53:25pm
82 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:53:28pm

You know you're in deep you-know-what when the hacks up on Beacon Hill turn on you.

Senate seeks Wilkerson’s resignation

In an unprecedented move, outraged state senators today called for alleged bribe-taker Sen. Dianne Wilkerson to resign and ousted her from all committee positions while defending their own involvement in the case.

That says it all.

83 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:54:17pm

re: #75 Cognito

Aw, man, I didn't know Andrew had gone down that particular path.

That's damaging.

I thought Iowahawk was too easy on Sully

84 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:54:21pm

Somebody has to check the rumors that Hillary Clinton is Obama's father and that Neil Peart time-traveled and wrote "Tom Sawyer" about Ron Paul.

/Denny Crane

85 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:54:26pm

And if you want to see the very worst of this garbage, try Atlas Shrugs. It's un-freaking-believable how insane she's gotten.

86 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:54:32pm

re: #75 Cognito

You weren't aware that he's an idiot?

87 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:55:07pm

re: #82 loppyd

You know you're in deep you-know-what when the hacks up on Beacon Hill turn on you.

Senate seeks Wilkerson’s resignation

That says it all.

Wasn't she the one shown padding her bra with the bribe money?

88 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:55:27pm

re: #75 Cognito

Aw, man, I didn't know Andrew had gone down that particular path.

That's damaging.

A bunch of people jumped on his bandwagon when he spouted that nonsense, but they pretty much all dropped off after Bristol's pregnancy was announced. They, unlike Mr Sullivan, did the math and realized Bristol could not be Trig's mother.

Sully still hasn't backed away from his demands for DNA testing to determine Trig's parentage.

89 bbuddha  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:55:30pm

re: #32 doppelganglander

BTW, this is totally off topic and self-serving, but today is my birthday. You may now return to your regularly scheduled snark.

Raising glass in toast....happy birthday and many more

90 non-lib Nina  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:55:39pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

That is the reason I come here, facts, just the facts!

91 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:55:48pm

re: #76 Iron Fist

The whole affiliation with Ayers should have been a big, red (literally :-) flag. You don't just happen to fall into the orbit of someone like that by accident. You don't have a decades long affiliation with them, either.

It just doesn't pass the smell test.

As mama Winger said repeatedly on a previous thread, they're the ONLY people he's been orbiting. Where are the friends, basketball players from pickup games, room mates, classmates, professors, associates, State Senators, ANYONE he has buddied up with, who isn't a complete radical?

92 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:55:52pm
93 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:56:08pm

re: #75 Cognito

Andrew Sullivan has lost his freakin' mind. And I mean that entirely seriously. He's had some kind of psychotic break. If you read what he was putting out in the 2001-2002 time frame and compared it to what he writes now, you'd think it was two different people.

94 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:56:17pm

76% of US citizens in Israel voted for McCain

A few interesting figures about the voters:

• A clear correlation was noted between religious observance and voting pattern.
• Turnout among young voters ages 18 to 34 was high (37%)
• 31% were first-time voters
• 25% have lived in Israel for more than 15 years, 33% less than one year
• 52% are also Israeli citizens
• Half are either independent or not registered with either party

A few interesting figures about their vote:

• 46% of Democrats crossed party lines to vote for McCain.
• Only 2% of Republicans voted for Obama. And
• 57% listed foreign policy (including Israel) as the most important factor in their consideration; 14% listed the economy; 7%, Iran; and 6%, the war in Iraq/terrorism.
• Nearly two-thirds were 'very concerned' with Iran; 93% agreed that a nuclear Iran would be a threat to the U.S.

95 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:56:19pm

I was reading an article by Rick Moran today on the right wing blogosphere, and he got some of it right, but some of it wrong.
There is one thing DKOS has going for it that the big right wing blogs don't. Ignoring the stink of madness that emanates up the flue over there, they also have a stable of bloggers who follow congress, local politicians, and the state by state races. It's the one thing that's in their plus column, while the right wing blogosphere has boiled down to pundits and punditry. There's a balance out there to strike somewhere. Grassroots starts at the roots of local politics, but the hyperbole, hysteria, and madness that generates their hits overwhelms the steady support they have for local politics.

96 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:56:53pm

re: #85 Charles

And if you want to see the very worst of this garbage, try Atlas Shrugs. It's un-freaking-believable how insane she's gotten.

That's still the slowest-loading site in the blogosphere.

97 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:56:55pm

re: #27 Tigger2005

I think right now the problem is that the authorship question is taking on the nature of a prospective scandal, of a way of "proving" a very close connection between Obama and Ayers. I don't see any point to that. Far too speculative to be credible or honorable.

But as a historical or philological question, it's entirely legitimate, and I hope there will be ample textual analysis made of the books in due course....starting after the election. From what I've seen, I agree with you that Ayers deserves a look.

Having read both books.......well, okay, all of Dreams and about 1/3 of Audacity........I doubt that the same co-writer/editor/ghost was used for both of them.

98 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:57:08pm

re: #80 Charles

It's not impossible, unfortunately. I've been battling this crap for months, and people just keep coming back with it.

Hey, have you heard about this guy Ber . . . *WHACK* . . . OW! What'd I say?

99 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:57:18pm

re: #82 loppyd

And just like that she tells them to screw - posted 0 minutes ago. LOL

Dianne Wilkerson vows to fight on

Embattled state Sen. Dianne Wilkerson called the Senate’s request for her to resign today "unreasonable," saying she won’t leave her district without representation.

Because she cares so much about the people of her district.

"Surely, the members of the state Senate could not have believed that such a monumental decision would be made within a few hours," said Wilkerson. "A decision like this could be comforting to some but could prove disastrous to others."

Spare me.

100 profitsbeard  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:57:25pm

Obama isn't a crypto-Marxist megalomaniac?

101 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:57:25pm

re: #87 CyanSnowHawk

Wasn't she the one shown padding her bra with the bribe money?

Unfortunately for her, the bra talked.

102 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:57:47pm

re: #94 gmsc

I am the proud mother of one of these voters!

103 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:57:54pm

re: #2 loppyd

I'm sure they will follow this up with a list of stupid rumors about Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin shot my dog, ya know! But she only winged him, she can't shoot worth a $**t!

/a cargo ship full of sarcasm!

104 little boomer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:58:02pm

re: #82 loppyd

You know you're in deep you-know-what when the hacks up on Beacon Hill turn on you.

Senate seeks Wilkerson’s resignation

That says it all.

It's so great to see that tax dodger get her just rewards!

105 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:58:20pm

Arr, mates I actually have seen the Forestal video of McCain escaping from his burning plane, and his cockpit wash awash in flame two seconds after he escaped. Anyone who was aboard the Forestal that day was a hero. I saw a chief charge into the flames with a fire extinguisher and dissapear in a 500 pounder blast. McCain is no coward and proven by fire. Obama has no credentials in his profile of courage...

106 straitcircle  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:58:51pm

It is not a rumer that Obama throws his firends under a buss, is it? I saw on National TV, Obama do this to his good friend. Frankly this scares me about persons who stab their friends in the back. That shows a character flaw. To me that is important for a pres to have, a good character assesment. To me, Obama throws his firends under a buss, will never be a rumer -- but a fact.

107 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:59:09pm

re: #85 Charles

And if you want to see the very worst of this garbage, try Atlas Shrugs. It's un-freaking-believable how insane she's gotten.

I've seen a couple links to her site on the threads here. Never did click on any of them, though, to see what they were about.

108 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 5:59:48pm

Thank you all so much for the kind wishes. I believe I'll go enjoy that drink from mikeymom along with a slice of cheesecake. While I'm gone, you can enjoy these Creative Quotations from William Faulkner and imagine them in John McCain's voice. Some of them would make darn good campaign speeches.

109 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:00:03pm

I think there have been alot of rumors, but I think only the politically junkies of the world have really paid much attention to them. I doubt the 'average voter' has even heard about the Barack brith certificate thing. Its basically an internet phenom.

110 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:00:45pm

re: #51 Killian Bundy

Um, so, whas it a crash or an engine start? No it was an errant rocket firing from another plane behind McCain's.

/USS Forrestal Mishap July 29, 1967

I'm pretty sure I saw a History Channel "Greatest Disasters" (or something like that) about the Forrestal fire. They showed a tape of the burning deck, and pointed "Future US Senator John McCain" unbuckling his harnnes and getting the F*** out before the fire spread to his plane.

111 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:00:49pm

re: #105 LoFlyer

Arr, mates I actually have seen the Forestal video of McCain escaping from his burning plane, and his cockpit wash awash in flame two seconds after he escaped. Anyone who was aboard the Forestal that day was a hero. I saw a chief charge into the flames with a fire extinguisher and dissapear in a 500 pounder blast. McCain is no coward and proven by fire. Obama has no credentials in his profile of courage...

But he ran such a complex campaign, dodging the slings and arrows of people that thought socialism and disreputable friends were evil things. How is that not proven by fire?

/That actually hurt as I thought it up.

112 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:00:56pm

You know, McCain has literally cheated death so many times it's preternatural.

/maybe he can't lose?

113 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:01:03pm

re: #87 CyanSnowHawk

Wasn't she the one shown padding her bra with the bribe money?

That would be the the one.

Nice photo montage....

114 ayatollah ghilmeini  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:01:16pm

Charles the only evidence that Ayers may have written the books is that Ayers did not produce any books of his own during the times immediately before the Obama books came out. There is also a certain amount of evidence that Obama met Ayers earlier in his career than is alleged and the people in his circle, McKnight, were instrumental in getting BHO into Harvard. As for Cashill, he is what he is but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

I think you are wise to be protective of your credibility and jump on every bandwagon. When you take on the Dan Rathers of the world head on and win, you can be sure those who do not like you will cut you down like a dog.

I am not sure what LGF's growth rate was before or after Bigel got bounced but you have a successful blog and it works for you- you have to please yourself.

One thing is certain, if McCain pulls off the upset, the MSM is toast. Media brands rely on credibility and theirs' will be toast.

115 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:01:35pm

re: #103 SteveC

Sarah Palin shot my dog, ya know! But she only winged him, she can't shoot worth a $**t!

/a cargo ship full of sarcasm!


from a helicopter right?

116 onslow  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:02:05pm

Sullivan:

Red, White And MILF

117 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:02:35pm

re: #105 LoFlyer

Arr, mates I actually have seen the Forestal video of McCain escaping from his burning plane...

LoFlyer, I think we've seen the same video. McCain skedaddled just in the nick of time.

118 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:02:39pm

re: #106 straitcircle

It is not a rumer that Obama throws his firends under a buss, is it? I saw on National TV, Obama do this to his good friend. Frankly this scares me about persons who stab their friends in the back. That shows a character flaw. To me that is important for a pres to have, a good character assesment. To me, Obama throws his firends under a buss, will never be a rumer -- but a fact.


I'll give it 8 out of 10.

119 non-lib Nina  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:02:47pm

OT- 1998 tape of Khalidi on Hannity and Colmes right now

120 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:03:03pm

re: #114 ayatollah ghilmeini

The Bigel bounces?

121 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:03:33pm

H&C have a video of a 1998 speech by Khalidi on now.

122 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:03:36pm

And the religious fanatics are in trouble again tonight.

Elizabeth Dole apparently FAKED the voice of her opponent Kay Hagan, in an attack ad claiming she's an evil godless atheist.

The attack ad:

Youtube Video

The response:

Youtube Video

Disgusting.

123 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:00pm

re: #91 shay4l

Yeah, I know. Sometimes you happen to be associated with someone who has a less than savory rep. That's one thing. When everybody you know has some kind of unsavory reputation, and they are all unsavory in the same basic way, you have to realize that people will, rightly, judge you to be right there along with them.

It's like living in a crack house or something, they way Obama's name pops up when you start looking at Communist anti-American people. I guess there's been no connection between Patty Hearst and Obama.

Yet.

124 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:01pm

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

This business of famous people using ghost-writers, co-writers, etc. is very distressing to a historian. You know the book has the putative author's imprimatur, but you cannot make any judgments about past that.


I also find it naughty. If I write my kid's term-paper, that makes him a cheater. If I write Hillary Clinton's It Takes a Village, that makes her.......that makes her what?

125 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:20pm

re: #115 loppyd

from a helicopter right?

A black one!
/

126 jetprop  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:27pm

Hannity had in his hand a copy of Prarie Fire..hmm..

127 Nightlight  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:32pm

Good grief!

UK TimesOnline compares Michelle Obama’s household to Sarah Palin’s:

Furthermore, the picture she presents of a loving but disciplined household offers a subtle contrast to Mrs Palin’s rather disorderly, rough-and-ready family life in Alaska and her pregnant teenage daughter.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

128 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:46pm

re: #66 Charles

1,000 up dings Charles.

129 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:51pm
130 jorline  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:52pm

Good evening, Lizards.

As the race heats up it feels like a Johnny Cash kind of night.

131 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:53pm

re: #125 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

A black one!
/

natch.

132 guzziguy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:04:59pm

re: #124 wolfie

If I write Hillary Clinton's It Takes a Village, that makes her.......that makes her what?

Ritch.

133 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:07pm

Hannity has the Prairie Fire story on now.

134 ciaospirit  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:21pm

re: #82 loppyd

You know you're in deep you-know-what when the hacks up on Beacon Hill turn on you.

Senate seeks Wilkerson’s resignation

That says it all.

Not once in the article do they mention her party affiliation.

135 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:40pm

Why are all the news stations reporting Exxon's quarterly profit as if that were a bad thing?
Is it illegal to make money in the USA now?
Biden already wants to take it and give it away.

(has Exxon stock...)

136 guzziguy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:44pm

PIMF

Rich

137 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:46pm

re: #119 non-lib Nina

OT- 1998 tape of Khalidi on Hannity and Colmes right now

It's not "the tape" I've seen that one. It's damning to Khalidi, but not the O.

We've obtained our own tape of controversial figure Rashid Khalidi speaking at an event in 1998 and you won't believe what he said about U.S. foreign policy and Chicago politics! Tune in tonight to find out

138 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:55pm

re: #126 jetprop

Hannity had in his hand a copy of Prarie Fire..hmm..

I wonder if he was the winning ebay bid?

139 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:05:56pm

re: #111 CyanSnowHawk

But he ran such a complex campaign, dodging the slings and arrows of people that thought socialism and disreputable friends were evil things. How is that not proven by fire?

/That actually hurt as I thought it up.

Mate it took me a second to realize your satire! That is not courage by Obama but good media control. Obama couldn't put out a fire much less survive one unlike McCain who has taken all they have and walked out a driven patriot...

140 jetprop  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:06:33pm

re: #138 SpartanWoman

I wonder if he was the winning ebay bid?

Heh..maybe so

141 shay4l  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:06:33pm

re: #124 wolfie

This business of famous people using ghost-writers, co-writers, etc. is very distressing to a historian. You know the book has the putative author's imprimatur, but you cannot make any judgments about past that.


I also find it naughty. If I write my kid's term-paper, that makes him a cheater. If I write Hillary Clinton's It Takes a Village, that makes her.......that makes her what?

The senator who paid you the $100,000 to ghostwrite her memoir?

142 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:06:43pm

Poll gives McCain lead in Fla. early voting

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll gave McCain a 49-45 lead over Democrat Barack Obama among Floridians who have already voted.

And Republicans continued to show a traditional strength, leading 50 percent to the Democrats' 30 percent in the 1.2 million absentee ballots already returned.

143 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:06:44pm

re: #87 CyanSnowHawk

Wasn't she the one shown padding her bra with the bribe money?

I'm sorry, Miss Wilkerson.... my girlfriend's are real!

*snicker*

144 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:06:50pm

Charles,

Do you think it will be a good idea to have a list of the links or websites we are not supposed to bring up in LGF, so we can maintain the integrity of your hard work, I am fairly new posting and would not like to bring up things it may offend the rest of the people here.

If there is a list, I will be glad to take a look at it.

or..

I can continue to post by trial and error and learn the hard way.

Gracias! #;-)

145 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:06:51pm

I've been holding my breath waiting for the October surprise to drop against McCain today. I guess Obama thinks he has enough of a lead to skip it. It's just that every election I can remember had The Democrats dropping some last minute scandal.Oh, but good news.... I hear the African news organization is going to release that Michele Obama anti-whitey tape any minute now! Just kidding Charles don't ban me!

146 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:00pm

re: #140 jetprop

Heh..maybe so

over $250 for that POS

147 non-lib Nina  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:11pm

re: #137 Thanos

But it is fascinating! And Ann Coulter is all a twitter! Gawd she is awesome!

148 Bloodnok  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:19pm

re: #134 ciaospirit

Not once in the article do they mention her party affiliation.

There's a second party in Mass?

149 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:26pm

re: #122 Charles

Mrs. Dole just lost my respect.

150 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:27pm

re: #135 rawmuse

Why are all the news stations reporting Exxon's quarterly profit as if that were a bad thing?
Is it illegal to make money in the USA now?
Biden already wants to take it and give it away.

(has Exxon stock...)

Did they mention the $32 BILLION Exxon-Mobil paid in taxes for that quarter? Somehow I doubt it.

151 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:27pm

re: #134 ciaospirit

Not once in the article do they mention her party affiliation.

Everyone in MA knows she's a dem, but you make a good point. The Herald is supposedly conservative, but less so lately.

152 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:29pm

re: #136 guzziguy

"Ritch" is quite good! Funny!

153 J.D.  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:07:36pm

re: #116 onslow

Sullivan:

Red, White And MILF

That bridge looks familiar. Any idea where it is? LA somewhere?

154 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:12pm

re: #150 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Funny thing, they left that part out.

155 swamprat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:14pm

He ran his infomercial on Sam Hain(pagan holy day)..... he's a witch!

The real question is....
...does he weigh as much as a duck?

156 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:21pm

Blue Mountain Cloudscape. Sanity check.

BBL

157 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:24pm

re: #122 Charles

Unbelievable. Wonder if that's it for her.

158 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:28pm

re: #117 SteveC

LoFlyer, I think we've seen the same video. McCain skedaddled just in the nick of time.

You are not kidding! He was about to be fried!

159 jorline  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:38pm

re: #130 jorline

Good evening, Lizards.

As the race heats up it feels like a Johnny Cash kind of night.

Maybe that's why...Prairie Fire...Ring of Fire...maybe "O" goes up in smoke.

160 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:08:40pm

re: #127 Nightlight

Hummmmm, let's see: A private home with two pre-teen children, and a mom who takes care of them all the time -VS- A governor's mansion with (previously) three teenagers, one first grader and a newborn special needs baby, and a mom who is the governor of the state and dad who works away from the family, but who both share the responsibilities of child care.

161 CapeCoddah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:09:25pm

re: #99 loppyd

And just like that she tells them to screw - posted 0 minutes ago. LOL

Dianne Wilkerson vows to fight on

Spare me.

Hiya Loppy,
The full Massachusetts Senate demanded her resignation today. They are all "Shocked and Outraged". Next order of business should be their own expulsions.

162 non-lib Nina  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:09:54pm

re: #159 jorline

We could only hope! Oh never mind I said hope, huh. How about wish, ahh, that is better.

163 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:09:58pm

re: #148 Bloodnok

There's a second party in Mass?

At the Kennedy compound every friday night. Ted wearing a lampshade and singing "Danny Boy".

164 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:09:59pm

re: #157 arethusa

Unbelievable. Wonder if that's it for her.

It should be.

165 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:10:27pm

Hannity is talking about the book from Ayers "Prairie Fire" next

166 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:10:28pm

re: #142 Yankee Division Son

Poll gives McCain lead in Fla. early voting

BOOM! First punch, right in the kisser! And I certainly hope the young fighter form the fightin' city of Chicago has a glass jaw.

167 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:10:33pm

re: #136 guzziguy

I took it as a cross between RICH and *ITCH !

168 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:07pm

re: #161 CapeCoddah

Hiya Loppy,
The full Massachusetts Senate demanded her resignation today. They are all "Shocked and Outraged". Next order of business should be their own expulsions.

She told them to pound sand. See my #99.

I think she's going to sing like a bird to save her a**.

169 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:09pm

re: #165 El Lizardo mejicano

Hannity is talking about the book from Ayers "Prairie Fire" next

And he's claiming all the credit for it.

Again.

170 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:12pm

re: #165 El Lizardo mejicano

Hannity is talking about the book from Ayers "Prairie Fire" next

Do you wonder where he's cribbing from?

171 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:17pm

re: #154 rawmuse

Funny thing, they left that part out.

Time constraints, they weren't trying to ignore it. Nah...
/

172 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:32pm

re: #122 Charles

That is a nice little scrap, there.

173 J.D.  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:32pm

Speaking of books, has anyone read this article?
The Audacity of Humility
Does Barack Obama have any? Does it matter?

174 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:39pm

re: #122 Charles

Ha! Thanks for the update. I was the ad and even though I should have been offended I thought I thought it was priceless comedy. The faked voiced adds an element of creepiness to it.

175 guzziguy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:11:41pm

re: #167 wolfie

I took it as a cross between RICH and *ITCH !

Oh, okay. Sure, I intended to do that.


No, actually just fumble fingered.

176 Nightlight  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:12:09pm

Hannity is going to mention that "dedication" page in Prairie Fire.

177 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:12:18pm

re: #161 CapeCoddah

Hiya Loppy,
The full Massachusetts Senate demanded her resignation today. They are all "Shocked and Outraged". Next order of business should be their own expulsions.


Rangel gets away with tax fraud, Jefferson in LA gets away with cash in the freezer...why shouldn'y she feel exempt too? She should cry sexism

178 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:12:25pm

re: #135 rawmuse

Why are all the news stations reporting Exxon's quarterly profit as if that were a bad thing?
Is it illegal to make money in the USA now?
Biden already wants to take it and give it away.

(has Exxon stock...)

I still waiting on Neil Cavuto to say "Buy some of the damn stock and quityerbitchin!"

179 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:12:39pm

I read that poll that said McCain had an early lead in Florida. Then I watched O'Reilly for a bit an both Gallup and Rasmussen said the exact opposite. They all but said the odds for McCain were pretty bad.Pretty depressing

180 yah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:12:44pm

I thought Obama's support and association with Odinga was true. A video was posted here. Looked liked Obama was compaigning for him. And the trip was on our tax dollars.

181 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:12pm

re: #177 SpartanWoman

Rangel gets away with tax fraud, Jefferson in LA gets away with cash in the freezer...why shouldn'y she feel exempt too? She should cry sexism

Why not? It's already been called racism.

182 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:13pm
183 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:30pm

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

184 J.D.  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:31pm

re: #180 yah

I thought Obama's support and association with Odinga was true. A video was posted here. Looked liked Obama was compaigning for him. And the trip was on our tax dollars.

I posted a link about that not long ago. It was from City Journal, maybe?

185 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:35pm

re: #156 Ojoe

Blue Mountain Cloudscape. Sanity check.

BBL

Yaar, mate it didn't turn into the flamen' sunset as hoped! Interesting clouds though, and yes I have seen the cloud site!

186 Tigger2005  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:36pm

My last post on the matter, as I definitely don't want to incur Charles' displeasure. Regardless of the source, I still don't find the idea that Obama's autobiographies were ghostwritten that incredible in and of itself. Lots of people have their autobiographies ghostwritten. I haven't seen any evidence that Obama displayed any exceptional writing talent prior to the publication of the autobiographies. As editor of the Harvard Law review, he had a prime opportunity for displaying his ability to write persuasive articles about legal and judicial issues of importance to him, and he didn't take it.

Writing is hard. Writing well is harder. There is no collection of articles and essays by Obama that one can point to as evidence of his developing writing ability. Unless he's some kind of late-onset idiot savant, he probably had a lot of help writing those books.

That is all.

187 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:42pm

re: #122 Charles

I didn't find anything funny about it, pretty desperate attack, I have no idea if the race is close or a blowout or whatever but using a 'fake voice' shouldn't be rewarded by any politician in either party.

I'm sure the defense would be that 'we never said it was her voice' but the implication there is pretty straight forward.

188 non-lib Nina  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:13:45pm

Go Hannity!

189 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:04pm

re: #135 rawmuse

I have BP myself. If Obama passes his "windfall profit" tax, only the stockholders will suffer.

190 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:16pm

re: #170 Thanos

Do you wonder where he's cribbing from?

I liked what Debbie Schlussel called him- Sean Vannity. I guess he thinks the same of Charles and zombie that he does of Debbie.

191 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:20pm

Obama Infomercial Poster

192 CapeCoddah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:30pm

Here is the current party breakdown for the Massachusetts House and Senate.
We are up to our eyeballs in moonbat corruption.
[Link: www.massscorecard.com...]
[Link: www.massscorecard.com...]

193 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:39pm

re: #183 Charles

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

Limbaugh and Levin at least credit the bloggers.

194 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:46pm

re: #135 rawmuse

Why are all the news stations reporting Exxon's quarterly profit as if that were a bad thing?
Is it illegal to make money in the USA now?
Biden already wants to take it and give it away.

(has Exxon stock...)

Apparently they haven't quite got the concept that the largest companies in the world have the potential to make the largest profits in the world in terms of Dollar amounts. These profits are not out of line, and seem rather conservative if you look at it in terms of profit margin.

195 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:14:58pm

re: #164 Sharmuta

Don't let perfection become the enemy of the good, as it were. We aren't in a position where we can just sacrifice a Senator because they haven't run a squeaky clean campaign. If we do, we won't just lose here. We'll lose for the foreseeable future.

196 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:15:33pm

re: #183 Charles

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

Does he say "Et cetera, et cetera" about every other sentence on TV as much as he does on the radio? That drives me friggin' NUTS!

197 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:15:34pm

Isn't the one about Obamas' mistress Vera Baker and her subsequently being exiled to Martinique by Michelle going to be listed? ;-)>

198 non-lib Nina  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:15:47pm

re: #183 Charles

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

Maybe we should email Sean and let him know how we feel?

199 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:16:06pm

Hannity is a tool. He gets the right people on and then asks some of the dumbest questions.

200 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:16:20pm

re: #197 Outrider

Good point. I haven't heard about that one in a while.

201 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:16:23pm

Why is all this damaging information coming out a week before the election?

/it's pretty obvious that opposition research wasn't a big priority for the McCain team, huge mistake, you can't play nice while the other side plays for keeps

202 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:16:32pm

They're claiming an "exclusive."

203 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:16:40pm

re: #183 Charles

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

Com'on Sean, spread the wealth around. You're already famous, and guys like Charles are doing the heavy lifting here!

204 Tigger2005  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:16:51pm

re: #179 nigella

I read that poll that said McCain had an early lead in Florida. Then I watched O'Reilly for a bit an both Gallup and Rasmussen said the exact opposite. They all but said the odds for McCain were pretty bad.Pretty depressing

Do not let the MSM get you down! Not even Fox!

205 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:17:06pm

Another crazy one: On Friday Pamela at Atlas Shrugs posted a long winded piece which concluded that Barack Obama is very likely the lovechild of Malcolm X.

I won't link to it, but feel free to check it out if you don't believe me.

206 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:17:37pm

re: #183 Charles

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

He's not the only one.

207 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:17:39pm

re: #205 Ringo the Gringo

Ha!, now I have to go look.

208 CapeCoddah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:17:44pm

re: #177 SpartanWoman

Rangel gets away with tax fraud, Jefferson in LA gets away with cash in the freezer...why shouldn'y she feel exempt too? She should cry sexism

She is the poster child for Massachusetts Politics. Her two predecessors are also convicted felons, corruption. Most of our legislature is under investigation at some level, mostly federal, and the keep electing them. Even AFTER they have been convicted. It seems to be traditional.

209 Alouette  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:17:48pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

I think Lucianne.com has already grabbed that title.

210 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:17:49pm

The credit for the "Prairie Fire" story should go to Zombie, not me.

211 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:05pm
212 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:07pm
213 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:20pm

re: #186 Tigger2005

The fact is that few would care if it was ghostwritten. If you are going to go after something, dig for that video like I have the past three days. We know it exists.

214 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:23pm

re: #202 Charles

They're claiming an "exclusive."

That's infuriating.

215 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:30pm

re: #205 Ringo the Gringo

Another crazy one: On Friday Pamela at Atlas Shrugs posted a long winded piece which concluded that Barack Obama is very likely the lovechild of Malcolm X.

I won't link to it, but feel free to check it out if you don't believe me.

Completely over the cliff. A sheer fanatic these days

216 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:30pm

re: #201 Killian Bundy


I agree with you 100%. McCain should have been out to totally destroy Obama from the get go. This "friendly enemies" bullshit gets old. Especially when it's only one side that is playing nice.

217 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:35pm

re: #106 straitcircle
To me, Obama throws his friends people he associated with to get further ahead in his pursuit of power under a buss, will never be a rumor -- but a fact.

218 J.D.  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:40pm

No, I guess it was the Washington Times:
HYMAN: Obama's Kenya ghosts

219 Fred72  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:47pm

LGF did cover one of these:

Obama Throws Kenyan 'Cousin' Under the Bus

I remember reading that article on LGF; Charles led with "Barack Obama is shunning his cousin Raila Odinga, prime minister of Kenya." But the Politico article points out that the "cousins" rumor was thoroughly debunked.

LGF didn't run with it to the extent of some other blogs, though.

220 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:18:54pm

re: #122 Charles

And the religious fanatics are in trouble again tonight.

Elizabeth Dole apparently FAKED the voice of her opponent Kay Hagan, in an attack ad claiming she's an evil godless atheist.

The attack ad:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

The response:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Disgusting.

They made it up completely?!

That's beyond disgusting.

221 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:26pm

re: #203 SteveC

Com'on Sean, spread the wealth around. You're already famous, and guys like Charles are doing the heavy lifting here!

And here *I* am forgetting about our operative from the netherworld, Zombie!

ZOMBIE, MY APOLOGIES FOR LEAVING YOU OUT. NO DISRESPECT WAS INTENDED!

222 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:29pm

re: #183 Charles

I'm glad Sean Hannity is covering this.

But I'm noticing that he blatantly steals from blogs without credit.

Does Hannity do that often? Does he have a 'I'm a Journalist, blogs don't count attitude?'

223 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:30pm

re: #210 Charles

The credit for the "Prairie Fire" story should go to Zombie, not me.

Zombie actually scrounged around and bought one of those evil tomes

224 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:31pm

re: #210 Charles

How far did Zombie's story go? I saw it linked (but not discussed) on The Corner at NRO, and that was the most "mainstream" blog I saw it on.

225 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:36pm

re: #169 Charles

And he's claiming all the credit for it.

Again.

WE ALL KNOW who the REAL journalist is amigo.

Zombie's website is overloaded right now, I can't get in.
Unable to connect

At least we have someone in the MSM talking about it and that is the most important at the moment.

226 Alouette  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:46pm

re: #142 Yankee Division Son

Poll gives McCain lead in Fla. early voting

Maybe they were overcounting the Orthodox Jews.

227 ciaospirit  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:19:58pm

I had to laugh. A caller said on Rush today that he was infuriated listening to one of Obama's "victims" in his infomercial as she whined that she didn't have enough money for milk for her kids, yet there she was with a full set of acrylic fingernails. Maybe could buy some milk instead of paying the upkeep on those nails?

228 willowone  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:20:00pm

did aryes dedicate it to sirhan sirhan?

229 jetprop  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:20:14pm

re: #210 Charles

The credit for the "Prairie Fire" story should go to Zombie, not me.

Yep.

Question is, would he rather protect his anonymity?

230 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:20:23pm

re: #183 Charles

Zombie should ask for credit to be noted, but was the email to his site providing source reference?

231 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:20:40pm

re: #170 Thanos

Do you wonder where he's cribbing from?

Yes, I have been reading it from Zombie since it got out.

232 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:20:50pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

Don't let perfection become the enemy of the good, as it were. We aren't in a position where we can just sacrifice a Senator because they haven't run a squeaky clean campaign. If we do, we won't just lose here. We'll lose for the foreseeable future.

Then she should have thought of that before she outright lied and faked her opponents voice. If I want to support a candidate that does that, then I might as well vote for democrats!

233 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:20:51pm

re: #228 willowone

did aryes dedicate it to sirhan sirhan?

Among other asswipes

234 kcladderman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:02pm

re: #150 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Did they mention the $32 BILLION Exxon-Mobil paid in taxes for that quarter? Somehow I doubt it.

A letter to the editor in the Kansas City Star the other, the lady wrote .. I don't care how much Joe the plumber pays in taxes but I know Cindy Mcain the millionaire beer distributer needs to pay more taxes.
I could not believe people think like that.

235 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:05pm

re: #179 nigella

I read that poll that said McCain had an early lead in Florida. Then I watched O'Reilly for a bit an both Gallup and Rasmussen said the exact opposite. They all but said the odds for McCain were pretty bad.Pretty depressing


I realized tonight that O'Reilly is having a snit because neither McCain or Palin have come on his show, and Obama has. There was a segment tonight that revealed he is really po'd about it. I think that is why he is so negative on McCain at this point. If McCain were to lose, I already know that you will hear him saying, "I told them they needed to come on the factor. Obama did and he got elected". Its all about him.

236 swamprat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:11pm

I've been hearing this rumor that Obama used to hang out with nutty racist preachers, ex terrorists, and commie wannabees, but except for all the evidence, I have no information.


Obama was eight years old when Ayers was in The Weathermen;
"Ma, Billy wants to plant a bomb; Can I go?"

"If Billy jumped off a bridge, would you jump off of one too?"

237 Geepers  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:41pm

ciaospirit (#227),

Maybe could buy some milk instead of paying the upkeep on those nails?

Priorities.

238 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:42pm

re: #205 Ringo the Gringo

Another crazy one: On Friday Pamela at Atlas Shrugs posted a long winded piece which concluded that Barack Obama is very likely the lovechild of Malcolm X.

I won't link to it, but feel free to check it out if you don't believe me.

My goodness.

re: #219 Fred72

LGF did cover one of these:

Obama Throws Kenyan 'Cousin' Under the Bus

I remember reading that article on LGF; Charles led with "Barack Obama is shunning his cousin Raila Odinga, prime minister of Kenya." But the Politico article points out that the "cousins" rumor was thoroughly debunked.

LGF didn't run with it to the extent of some other blogs, though.

Yes, it was debunked, and that's why you didn't see it again at LGF. And please notice that the word "cousin" is in quotes in the title.

239 willowone  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:46pm

re: #233 SpartanWoman

omg and Dems are forgiving all this crap?

240 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:47pm

More on Jennifer Brunner Via Ace of Spades

(Columbus) - Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner's connection to a top ACORN official raises troubling new questions about her refusal to disclose at least 200,000 questionable voter registrations being held by her office.

An investigation into ACORN's alleged fraudulent election activity revealed on Wednesday that one of its national directors, Karyn Gillette, collaborated with the Obama campaign to raise funds for the group's voter registration efforts.

Gillette is identified on Jennifer Brunner's 2006 campaign website as a consultant to Brunner, and a blog entry filed by Brunner's husband Rick adds that "our candidate had gone earlier in the day to have some meetings and work out of Karyn Gillette's office." Rick Brunner also describes Gillette as "very helpful to the campaign."

According to campaign finance reports, Gillette, a longtime fundraising consultant to Ohio Democrats, was paid $21,250 by Brunner's campaign.

241 Throbert McGee  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:48pm
And what about the absolutely insane garbage about Sarah Palin, promoted by idiots like Andrew Sullivan? Sullivan spent weeks demanding that Palin submit to DNA testing to prove she, and not her daughter, was the mother of Trig Palin.

I don't think this adequately conveys just how fucking twisted and evil Sullivan's "Trig skepticism" really was. For one thing, Sully dropped more than a few hints (without actually saying it, of course) that he suspects Sarah Palin had at one point contemplated aborting Trig, but changed her mind -- not out of pro-life convictions, mind you, but because she thought it could be politically advantageous to have a Down Syndrome child.

242 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:21:58pm

re: #228 willowone

Yep. Nice, ain't it? I guess he could have dedicated it to James Earl Ray. That would have marginally been worse.

243 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:22:03pm

Is Zombies site down? I can't access it right now

244 willowone  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:22:13pm

i typed that stuttering , mind blowing.

245 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:22:31pm

re: #232 Sharmuta

Then she should have thought of that before she outright lied and faked her opponents voice. If I want to support a candidate that does that, then I might as well vote for democrats!

Except that the dem supports policies that you won't like. Not sure I'd vote for a dem because my GOP candidate was less than squeaky clean

246 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:08pm

re: #186 Tigger2005

Writing is hard. Writing well is harder. There is no collection of articles and essays by Obama that one can point to as evidence of his developing writing ability. Unless he's some kind of late-onset idiot savant, he probably had a lot of help writing those books.

Second this observation.

Writing reflects thinking, and when people start writing they often face written evidence of their own sloppy, uncritical thinking.

This leads to getting help writing, instead of learning how to think, how to determine one's own values, how to honestly record these in writing...

Inasmuch as we have virtually NO benchmarks by which to measure Obama's beginnings, growth or development, to see these books spring into being fully-formed AS IF by Obama, calls for some leap of faith that I, for one, am unwilling to make.

247 willowone  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:19pm

re: #242 Iron Fist

so ayres believed that assassinating a Presdeint was a good thing? seriously i'm stunned.

248 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:20pm
249 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:30pm

re: #202 Charles

They're claiming an "exclusive."

It's possible he got it independently (I watch H& C on the replay later).

/two weeks ago, there were several copies available on Amazon

250 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:43pm

BTW, it's positively frigid here tonight.

GWMA!

251 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:47pm

re: #234 kcladderman

A letter to the editor in the Kansas City Star the other, the lady wrote .. I don't care how much Joe the plumber pays in taxes but I know Cindy Mcain the millionaire beer distributer needs to pay more taxes.
I could not believe people think like that.

Wealth envy. Right out of the demonrat's 60 year old playbook. I saw on C-SPAN Truman's speech at the '48 DNC convention talking about the GOP being the party of the wealthy.

252 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:23:52pm

re: #169 Charles

And he's claiming all the credit for it.

Again.

I have to give Hannity for keeping his base activated for McCain. He admits he is repetitive because the media consistently refuses to cover his stories until 18 months later of what Hannity reports, so late as to alter the vote of the citizens. I felt good when I arrived home after an hour of Hannity. 'Me neighbor had placed a McCain/Palin in his front yard so of course I had to go over and compliment him on it. We had a good time for twenty minutes, and of course he had to show me his newest baby an AK-47. I took the time to go over disassembly and firing procedures. A very simple and reliable weapon, but not near as crisp and accurate as its western counterparts. Very inexpensive also, he reports he bought his for 450 dollars. It is not a full-auto model mates!

253 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:01pm

re: #239 willowone

omg and Dems are forgiving all this crap?

ignoring, cheering..."forgiving" implies error

254 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:07pm

re: #245 SpartanWoman

Squeaky clean? It's a fraud what she did! You want to defend a liar and a fraud- be my guest.

255 J.D.  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:10pm

re: #247 willowone

so ayres believed that assassinating a Presdeint was a good thing? seriously i'm stunned.

Why? I don't find that surprising in the least.

256 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:12pm
257 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:16pm

re: #246 Karridine

Second this observation.

Writing reflects thinking, and when people start writing they often face written evidence of their own sloppy, uncritical thinking.

This leads to getting help writing, instead of learning how to think, how to determine one's own values, how to honestly record these in writing...

Inasmuch as we have virtually NO benchmarks by which to measure Obama's beginnings, growth or development, to see these books spring into being fully-formed AS IF by Obama, calls for some leap of faith that I, for one, am unwilling to make.

And leaping from that to the assumption that "Bill Ayers wrote it" is even more of a jump.

258 Dalibama  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:16pm

I'm not surprised that Andrew McCarthy took the Ayers/Obama book connection off the website. You could have your career ruined for what he wrote. Others at NRO dissaproved.

People who write about the possibilty of Ayers helping Obama with the book face more condemnation then Obama has for his association with Ayers.

I never trust myself because of my bias so I had my husband read Cashill's articles. If they were over the top, he would have told me and he didn't. He really didn't react much, but he doesn't get excited about anything except the Patriots.

259 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:29pm

re: #248 taxfreekiller

Skelator sounds bad,

nice

He is bad. And really dumb.

260 yah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:34pm

re: #183 Charles

Hannity is not real smart. And a bore. He doesn't have original ideas. I wish FOX would replace him. I can take about 2 minutes of him and then I have to turn him off.

261 kansas  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:40pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.


Or Newsweek which I made the mistake of picking up today while waiting for a haircut. I did not know Kos wrote for them. Yikes.

262 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:42pm
263 willowone  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:24:44pm

i hate them.

264 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:25:09pm

re: #136 guzziguy

PIMF

Rich

Ritch = rich bitch?

265 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:25:23pm

re: #254 Sharmuta

Squeaky clean? It's a fraud what she did! You want to defend a liar and a fraud- be my guest.

Unless the dem was conservative and above reproach my vote would still go to Dole. Not defending her, just choosing the lesser evil

266 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:25:26pm
267 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:25:29pm

re: #245 SpartanWoman

I think if I was voting in NC in this case, I would either not vote or vote 3rd party. "Fake Voice" ads shouldn't be rewarded, no matter what, have to draw a line somewhere.

268 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:25:42pm

re: #249 Killian Bundy

It's possible he got it independently (I watch H& C on the replay later).

/two weeks ago, there were several copies available on Amazon

They're down to one now.

269 ClosetConservative  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:26:09pm

Living in Boston, one can feel the corruption and nutjob liberalism radiating from the State House.

270 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:26:11pm

Spinoff links that claim Bill Ayers wrote Barack Obama's books are going to be deleted.

271 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:26:25pm
272 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:26:33pm

Victor Davis Hansen hit another grand slam.

America Compared to What?

Western Europe is discovering that its banks lent more against their reserves than did their American counterparts. European real estate was often more inflated than our own. Bankers in Frankfurt, London, and Paris are looking at trillions of dollars in uncollectible Euro loans throughout Latin America, Asia, and Eastern Europe. Most of our toxic debt was at least owed as mortgages by fellow Americans; far more of Europe’s is owed by those outside the European Union.

Even when the United States is reeling from financial panic, foreign investment continues to flow into America; the dollar, meanwhile, is climbing against the Euro. China’s export-driven and Russia’s energy economies are in crisis. They may have hundreds of billions in dollar reserves, but as the world energy and consumer economies slow, both countries lack our institutions, infrastructure, and broad flexibility to easily rebound.

Go read the whole thing. It's a definite keeper.

273 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:26:44pm

re: #269 ClosetConservative

Living in Boston, one can feel the corruption and nutjob liberalism radiating from the State House.

Greetings from the North Shore!

274 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:27:11pm
275 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:27:17pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

I've been wondering about that. You keep hearing about Exxon's, or some other oil company's, Big Profit Figures--but the question really is what the profit margin is. "Highest profit" sounds damaging, but isn't that what companies are supposed to go for?

We do, after all, need oil--and not just for gasoline and for heating. For plastic. For fertilizer. For clothing. For paint. Oil gets into everything--and if you sell something that everyone needs for everything everyone uses, you're going to do well.

What gets better ratings/higher readership?
Oil Company Profits At Obscene Multi-Billion Dollar Levels!
or
Oil Companies Show Strong 8% Profit!
That's what it's all about now, ain't it?

276 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:27:21pm

re: #189 Killgore Trout

I have BP myself. If Obama passes his "windfall profit" tax, only the stockholders will suffer.

aha! I knew there was some eeeeeevil in you! ;)

277 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:27:33pm

re: #232 Sharmuta

A fair is a place they give ribbons to prize hogs. If we try to fight the Left by the Marquis of Queensbury rules, and the Left fight us by street rules, we will always lose.

Always.

Sometimes youo have to fight dirty in order to win. That doesn't make it good, it doesn't make it right.

It just makes it necessary .

278 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:27:42pm

re: #267 middlecon

I think if I was voting in NC in this case, I would either not vote or vote 3rd party. "Fake Voice" ads shouldn't be rewarded, no matter what, have to draw a line somewhere.

And dems will have control that way. They have no qualms about rewarding far worse bahaviors

279 Archimedes  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:27:48pm

Alright, but the real problem we have are left wing "intellectuals" and a dishonest press pushing for Obama and state control of our lives.

280 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:28:00pm

Also, didn't zombie specifically add a disclamer that anyone could use that report without attribution?

/maybe it was another report, but IIRC, that was the one it was attached to

281 kcladderman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:28:10pm

re: #251 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Wealth envy. Right out of the demonrat's 60 year old playbook. I saw on C-SPAN Truman's speech at the '48 DNC convention talking about the GOP being the party of the wealthy.

Oh yes I know,i am pretty sure Cindy McCain payed more income tax last year than the woman who wrote the letter has payed over her entire life.

282 twincitiesgirl  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:28:35pm
And what about the absolutely insane garbage about Sarah Palin, promoted by idiots like Andrew Sullivan? Sullivan spent weeks demanding that Palin submit to DNA testing to prove she, and not her daughter, was the mother of Trig Palin. That doesn’t count?

The trashiness of some of these stories make me embarrassed to be called a human being. What a fine example to set for our children and future generations.

/getting a little PO'd cranky

283 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:28:47pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

I've been wondering about that. You keep hearing about Exxon's, or some other oil company's, Big Profit Figures--but the question really is what the profit margin is. "Highest profit" sounds damaging, but isn't that what companies are supposed to go for?

We do, after all, need oil--and not just for gasoline and for heating. For plastic. For fertilizer. For clothing. For paint. Oil gets into everything--and if you sell something that everyone needs for everything everyone uses, you're going to do well.

You might also want to look at how much they pay in taxes. Uncle $ugar rakes billions off the top.

284 Nightlight  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:28:53pm

Hannity -- calling this a Block Buster New Discovery! We've all known this for days now! Thank to Zombie.

285 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:28:55pm
286 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:29:03pm

re: #252 LoFlyer

AK's are nice. I think everyone should have one. Kinda like life insurance.

287 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:29:17pm

re: #267 middlecon

I think if I was voting in NC in this case, I would either not vote or vote 3rd party. "Fake Voice" ads shouldn't be rewarded, no matter what, have to draw a line somewhere.

I'd be willing to vote for her in order to prevent the dems getting to 60.

288 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:29:26pm

re: #280 Killian Bundy

Also, didn't zombie specifically add a disclamer that anyone could use that report without attribution?

/maybe it was another report, but IIRC, that was the one it was attached to

zombie mentioned that in Prairie Fire the authors said that Prairie Fire could be used without any copyright problems.

289 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:29:50pm

re: #280 Killian Bundy

Also, didn't zombie specifically add a disclamer that anyone could use that report without attribution?

/maybe it was another report, but IIRC, that was the one it was attached to

"Without attribution" doesn't mean "go ahead and claim it as an exclusive and take all the credit."

290 bbuddha  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:29:50pm

I suspect some of the crazy rumors about Obama arose out of feeling of desperation that this crazy socialist that feels he's smarter than our founding fathers is a hair away from the white house. I'm not condoning. I am myself scared to death that this jerk is going to make it and with the demoncrat controlled congress change forever the face of this country. I have literally lost sleep over this. I'm not rich but have always worked hard and sacrificed to save and have a little cushion to give me a feeling of security. I pisses me off that this makes me vulnerable to having the "sweat of my brow" stolen.

291 kansas  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:30:01pm

re: #284 Nightlight

Hannity -- calling this a Block Buster New Discovery! We've all known this for days now! Thank to Zombie.

I dont watch Hannity, whats he hyping now?

292 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:30:02pm

re: #205 Ringo the Gringo

Another crazy one: On Friday Pamela at Atlas Shrugs posted a long winded piece which concluded that Barack Obama is very likely the lovechild of Malcolm X.

I won't link to it, but feel free to check it out if you don't believe me.

Are you sure it was Malcolm the Tenth and not Frank "Comintern" Davis?

All the rumors I've seen regarding Obama Sr. not being Barack's real dad suggest that it is Frank Davis. There do seem to be superficial similarities, particularly the ears.

Maybe that's why the Messiah himself has said "The Ears Are Off Limits!"

293 cblesz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:30:21pm

Please donate to goptrust.com

they are going to saturate Jeremiah Wright ads in swing states all weekend per Dick Morris. I gave a sizeable contribution...hey, it will be less than my tax increase!

294 SpartanWoman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:30:28pm

re: #277 Iron Fist

A fair is a place they give ribbons to prize hogs. If we try to fight the Left by the Marquis of Queensbury rules, and the Left fight us by street rules, we will always lose.

Always.

Sometimes youo have to fight dirty in order to win. That doesn't make it good, it doesn't make it right.

It just makes it necessary .

I don't advocate dirty campaigning and lies, but I would not reward a lib because a conservative played by their rules. When I think about all of O's misrepresentations, distortions and lies it annoys me to think that we would toss a conservative down a rat hole and give the donks a majority

295 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:30:43pm

re: #278 SpartanWoman

Its a personal decision. I'm not a mindless GOP voter. I'll vote for candidates that I can respect, regardless of party.

296 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:30:45pm
297 guzziguy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:31:29pm

re: #291 kansas

I dont watch Hannity, whats he hyping now?

Zombie's exclusive on the Ayers book, "Prairie Fire." Only, somehow it became Hannity's big discovery

298 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:32:30pm

re: #295 middlecon

Its a personal decision. I'm not a mindless GOP voter. I'll vote for candidates that I can respect, regardless of party.

Do you mind if I ask if you voted for President Bush in 2000 or 2004?

Because he was accused of doing some very dirty things to McCain. I still voted for him. Twice.

Just saying.

299 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:32:40pm

re: #288 Irene NYC

zombie mentioned that in Prairie Fire the authors said that Prairie Fire could be used without any copyright problems.

/and, IIRC, she said the zombie report could be used by other bloggers or anyone else without attribution, mainly because time was running out

300 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:32:43pm

Why does Tito the Builder wear his sunglasses at night?

Maybe the TV studio lights bother him, but it gives him teh crazy.

301 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:32:56pm

re: #277 Iron Fist

I think integrity matters and stooping to their level is unacceptable to me.

But since I can't vote for her or against her, it doesn't matter what I think.

302 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:33:00pm
303 ClosetConservative  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:33:01pm

re: #273 loppyd

Greetings from the middle of Boston. A moonbat warzone indeed. All this bat guano on the walls is starting to get to me.

What's the political climate up where you make your home?

304 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:33:15pm

Tito The Builder on H&C.
I love this guy.

305 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:33:59pm

re: #300 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Why does Tito the Builder wear his sunglasses at night?

Maybe the TV studio lights bother him, but it gives him teh crazy.

It's to avoid Skeletor's gaze./

306 cblesz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:34:08pm

re: #300 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Why does Tito the Builder wear his sunglasses at night?

Maybe the TV studio lights bother him, but it gives him teh crazy.

H elooks cool..at least he is ripping skeletor

307 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:34:25pm

re: #298 loppyd

Yes I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, heck I voted for Dole in 96, as far as I know Bush didn't make ads up about the McCain baby rumor?

Making fake ads is alot worse than alleged whisper campaigns.

308 kansas  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:34:47pm

re: #297 guzziguy

Zombie's exclusive on the Ayers book, "Prairie Fire." Only, somehow it became Hannity's big discovery

Thanks. You know I was thinking that conservative radio and TV might have something to do with Obama being so close to winning. I've been listening to Rush for 20 years now, and used to watch and listen to Hannity, and sometimes Oreilly etc. Anyway,its always been, the wolf is at the door, the wolf is at the door. Now, the wolf is at the door.

309 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:34:50pm

re: #247 willowone

It's worse than that, really. Ayers believed that assassinating an American Presidential Candidate was legitimate, and that by imprisoning Sirhan Sirhan we were committing human rights abuses.

At least that's what I take from it. He's calling Sirhan Sirhan a political prisoner.

And Obama gets a pass fron the freaking Kennedys themselves. That is really unbelievable, but it is apparently true.

310 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:34:53pm

Talk about hubris.

Obama raising money to fund presidential transition

KISSIMMEE, Fla. -- The Obama campaign has opened a new fund-raising front, I've learned, creating a nonprofit entity to bankroll Barack Obama's presidential transition operation, quietly in business for months.

The organization is called the "Obama Transition Project." The money is being raised from individual donors -- no Internet, direct mail or events -- with a $5,000 donation cap. Under self-imposed rules, lobbyists will not be allowed to contribute.

311 jmorris42  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:34:58pm

I dunno, personally I think some rumormongering is ok. It is all in HOW it is done. Yea, a visit to Atlas Shrugs is certainly eye opening.... proves Kos doesn't have a monopoly on wacko.

Just depends on whether an actual attempt is being made to separate fact from fiction. Nothing wrong with poring over Obama's birth certificate images to prove/disprove the hypotheses that it is fake. That is something in the realm of reason, it either passes the test, fails or perhaps falls into a gray area where more information needs to be collected. It's a basic document authentication question not unlike the infamous throbbing GIF. Where things go horribly wrong is when the conspiracy theorists can't be satisfied and refuse to quit. Taking a rumor and thrashing it around to see how well it stands up is usually good. Just running with em, not so good.

Questioning the actual author of Obama's book is kinda fun, I read most of the stuff out there. Considering Obama is a zero I tend to doubt he wrote his first book without help from somebody. Maybe the ghost is Ayers, maybe it ain't. But in the end I don't see how the question can ever be amendable to reason. What evidence falsifies the assertion? More importantly, how does it change anything? There is zero chance of getting a confession, there will always be enough doubt that an Obama supporter will never be swayed by it.

Proving a closer than admitted association with Ayers than currently admitted would be nice I suppose. But we already have the much more provable fact that Ayers trusted Obama enough to put him in charge of ensuring that as much of that Annenberg money went to the 'right' people. And if we can't convince somebody based on that I doubt they will suddenly switch their vote based on discovering Obama had a ghost writer.

312 Bloodnok  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:05pm

re: #303 ClosetConservative

Greetings from the middle of Boston. A moonbat warzone indeed. All this bat guano on the walls is starting to get to me.

What's the political climate up where you make your home?

Hey -greetings from the North End.

313 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:09pm

re: #291 kansas

I dont watch Hannity, whats he hyping now?

Hannity.
/

314 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:24pm

re: #305 arethusa

It's to avoid Skeletor's gaze./

ROFLMAO! He just said it's to intimidate Colmes!

315 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:36pm

Somewhat Off Topic

I found this while looking for good material for my blog (it's a medical blog; I'm not trying to trick you into rushing over there) A paramedic and his partner have to pick up "Mr. Jefferson" and transport him from the nursing home back to his house. Turns out Mr. Jefferson a member of the 101st Airborne!

Great story! The link goes to the Paramedic's blog; show him some love if you wish.

316 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:39pm

Oooh, Tito the Builder just scored on Colmes. Didn't know Colmes could laugh.

317 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:42pm

This is to intimidate Colmes!

I'm dyin' over here!

318 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:35:44pm
319 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:01pm

re: #289 Charles

"Without attribution" doesn't mean "go ahead and claim it as an exclusive and take all the credit."

/no, that's a stretch if they got it from zombie, but zombie wants this to spread and what's Hannity going to do anyway, credit someone named "zombie"?

320 noshariaincanada  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:11pm

re: #317 Charles

he's awesome, isn't he?

321 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:14pm

re: #299 Killian Bundy

/and, IIRC, she said the zombie report could be used by other bloggers or anyone else without attribution, mainly because time was running out


I believe that is correct.

322 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:17pm

re: #307 middlecon

Yes I voted for Bush in 00 and 04, heck I voted for Dole in 96, as far as I know Bush didn't make ads up about the McCain baby rumor?

Making fake ads is alot worse than alleged whisper campaigns.

They were robo calls saying McCain had an illegitimate dark baby.

323 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:20pm

Charles I am with you on the attribution part. I don't watch the talking head shows much but if Hannity is trying to claim some sort of exclusive and he personally knows that the information came from Zombies work, or if enough people think that is where he and his researchers got it from he might just rue the day.

324 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:23pm

re: #266 taxfreekiller

I want Bill Clinton to go racist before its to late.

bad

I can't imagine, that on a secret ballot, he is going to vote for The One.

325 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:27pm
326 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:36:47pm

re: #286 Iron Fist

AK's are nice. I think everyone should have one. Kinda like life insurance.

It's a hell of a lot cheaper than life insurance mate! I will stick to 'me trusty 12 gage and concentrate on something longer ranged. I might be spending 'me ski trip money next week on some expensive hardware...

327 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:37:21pm

re: #293 cblesz

Please donate to goptrust.com

they are going to saturate Jeremiah Wright ads in swing states all weekend per Dick Morris. I gave a sizeable contribution...hey, it will be less than my tax increase!

Agreed, cb, already did. The ad rocks! Watch it here!

328 talon_262  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:37:31pm

re: #85 Charles

And if you want to see the very worst of this garbage, try Atlas Shrugs. It's un-freaking-believable how insane she's gotten.

It's what happens when you chuck humility and common sense overboard and decide to become a f**king moron...

329 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:37:34pm
330 J.S.  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:37:35pm

I think some of problems which have arisen (the wild rumors, etc.) is (as I've noted previously) due to the Media's utter infatuation with Obama. Thus, they have lost objectivity, and simply print "the good stuff." Whatever the MSM calculates as potentially "damaging" -- the media hushes up, diminishes, or even refuses to address. I know of at least 14 different items (there's a list) of UNKNOWNS about Obama...(probably you could make a even longer list) -- these are items which the MSM refuses to look at. And, personally, I see no problem whatsoever in asking the questions. Where the "problems" arise is when someone with zero evidence (or someone who's maliciously motivated and without a trace of an interest in ascertaining the truth) begins raw, outrageous speculations and draws a host of unfounded, inaccurate, false conclusions. So, it's perfectly reasonable for people to ask questions about Obama's citizenship -- there's nothing wrong about that; it's perfectly legitimate. It becomes a "problem", however, when people start speculating and alleging (falsely) that Obama isn't a "naturalized citizen". Ditto for the question about "Were Obama's autobiographies ghost written?" in itself that's a question that one can ask. The problem, however, is when the person who wants to give you the "answer" has a malicious axe to grind (wants more than anything to "get Obama") and then proceeds to "produce" the "evidence." It then becomes a witch hunt -- with Obama the victim...and this is not a "good thing" for any political party to become engaged in...

331 willowone  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:37:43pm

re: #309 Iron Fist
It really is stunning.

332 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:38:10pm

Tito my man! puts Colmes in his place, tells him don't pretend that the American people are stupid. this guy rocks. they need him on the campaign trail every day!

333 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:38:15pm

re: #303 ClosetConservative

I work in Newburyport which is moonbat city, but where I live is less militant.

334 Sylvester_T_Cat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:38:55pm

re: #155 swamprat

He ran his infomercial on Sam Hain(pagan holy day)..... he's a witch!

The real question is....
...does he weigh as much as a duck?

Lol.

Seriously though, that isn't true and shouldn't become a rumor. I know a few pagans, including at least one who's voting McCain/Palin. Samhain is their favored word for Halloween, which is Oct 31 -- nothing to do with Obama's "It's All About Me" infomercial. Not all pagans are moonbats thankfully.

335 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:02pm

re: #292 Colonel Panik

Are you sure it was Malcolm the Tenth and not Frank "Comintern" Davis?

All the rumors I've seen regarding Obama Sr. not being Barack's real dad suggest that it is Frank Davis. There do seem to be superficial similarities, particularly the ears.

Maybe that's why the Messiah himself has said "The Ears Are Off Limits!"

The Atlas Shrugs' post is about Malcolm X being Obama's "real" father.

Go look....(Google: Atlas Shrugs Malcolm X)

336 cblesz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:09pm

re: #327 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Agreed, cb, already did. The ad rocks! Watch it here!


Give what you can....c'mon Lizards!

337 ladycatnip  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:16pm

#284 Nightlight

#284 Nightlight

Hannity -- calling this a Block Buster New Discovery! We've all known this for days now! Thank to Zombie.

I was just watching Hannity and cracking up - he and his people need to read LGF everyday for the latest news. This "blockbuster new discovery" - Ayers' Prairie Fire, was breaking news here on October 22nd. Where's Hannity been for the last week?

338 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:26pm

On a somewhat different note... what do you guys think of Obama's latest 30-second TV commercial? It says something about going to a tax-related website and plugging in some info about your place in society... and it supposedly tells you that Obama's tax plan gives you more money left... :-|

Yeah, that rather assumes that Obama isn't lying through his teeth about his announced tax-plan...

339 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:34pm

re: #317 Charles

This is to intimidate Colmes!

I'm dyin' over here!

Hope it's on youtube later.

340 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:38pm

Love Tito! So, what if Obama gives me $2,000.00. What does that work out to, 96 cents an hour.

Perfect.

341 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:39:38pm

Has this cartoon been posted?

Campaign Wealth

342 artdog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:05pm

re: #135 rawmuse

Why are all the news stations reporting Exxon's quarterly profit as if that were a bad thing?
Is it illegal to make money in the USA now?
Biden already wants to take it and give it away.

(has Exxon stock...)

Because when it's the "evil" oil companies, any profit is a windfall. It's also part of that "people before profits" crap. Um -- who makes the profits? That would be everyday Americans who own shares through their 401(k)s. Nah, that's too much thinking for MSM and leftie to do....

On a related note, it's interesting how whenever the MSM mentions Halliburton for any reason, they always say, "formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney." OOOHHHH-- the evil, the evil!

343 cblesz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:07pm

TITO ROCKS! 90 cents an hour! Awesome. BTW, Hannity, LGF (Zombie knew about the book last week...plug in)!

344 Nightlight  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:24pm

Is this true? Obama's desk in the Senate once belonged to Robert Kennedy?

14. His desk in the Senate once belonged to Robert Kennedy. Mr. Obama was only 6 when Mr. Kennedy, who was running for president, was assassinated in 1968.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

345 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:26pm

Tito made more sense than the two at FOX together..

346 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:40pm

re: #332 alien_mind

Tito my man! puts Colmes in his place, tells him don't pretend that the American people are stupid. this guy rocks. they need him on the campaign trail every day!

Arrest Tito! He just flogged Colmes to within an inch of his life; that's gotta be 5 to 10 at hard labor!

347 Zimriel  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:44pm

Let me lay down the Odinga controversy for y'all.

Most rightist links to Obama's trip to Kenya in late August 2006 point to Pamela at Atlas Shrugs, or Free Republic; they in turn point to "To The Point News" which is blocked behind a firewall. These sites showcase a picture of Obama standing up making a speech, with some African whom I don't recognise at O's feet. I won't cite or link to any of this directly, because I suspect it would be banworthy without better evidence. I'll get into why, later on...

Here's MSNBC on the visit - no mention at all of Odinga. Obama did hook up with President Kibaki and (pictured) Minister Tuju. He possibly at least met Odinga since he was the most credible opposition leader. Since Odinga hadn't (yet) revealed himself to be evil, this is just basic statesmanship.

What was a little more tin-eared of Obama was to give an anti-corruption speech at Nairobi. I don't know African polemics too well, but I have studied Islamic polemics; going off against "corruption", in Near Eastern politics, always means you are challenging the current ruler's legitimacy. It never means you are proposing a constitutional and formalist system of state budgeting. This is particularly egregious if, like Obama, you tend not to go into specifics. (Some anti-Obama commentators restrain their criticisms of Obama-in-Kenya to the Epic Fail of that speech. I don't have a problem with those commentators. The man's a more eloquent Carter in my book.)

No-one mentioned an alliance between Odinga and Obama that autumn. We Americans were too busy changing parliaments at the time to notice anyway.

A few months later, that Christmas, Odinga put it about that Obama had endorsed him that summer and more, was his cousin. A lot of the "pictures" of Odinga and Obama together date to this time; mostly fraudulent. (c.f. here.)

Anyway I hope this helps, if you should enter a conversation with someone frothing about the Kenya trip (or, alternatively, wondering what the big deal was).

348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:40:55pm

Charles. For the fact that you did not engage (or allow the engagement) of these issues greatly improved my already high esteem of you and this site.

I thank you for that fact.

(is there an emoticon for ass kissing)(in this case it is well deserved ass kissing)

349 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:41:11pm

re: #322 loppyd

I doubt those calls had the tag line 'I'm George Bush adn I approved this message'. Its all in the integrity.

350 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:41:15pm

re: #338 NomadOfNorad

On a somewhat different note... what do you guys think of Obama's latest 30-second TV commercial? It says something about going to a tax-related website and plugging in some info about your place in society... and it supposedly tells you that Obama's tax plan gives you more money left... :-|

Yeah, that rather assumes that Obama isn't lying through his teeth about his announced tax-plan...

I think that chick who was whining about buying milk ought to stop getting acrylic nails at $60 a set and sell the Navigator in the driveway so she doesn't have to decide if she can afford a gallon or a half gallon.

351 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:41:18pm

re: #330 J.S.

Well said.

352 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:41:48pm

re: #248 taxfreekiller

Lib-tards sound that way when they've been screeching about something. I wonder if somebody pissed in Skeletor's Cheerios?

353 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:41:49pm

I got my copy of Prairie Fire on Monday. I agree with zombie. When I actually picked it up in my hands, I was spooked - and pretty upset for my country.

354 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:42:26pm

re: #326 LoFlyer

If you want long range firepower, I like the Armalite AR-30. Or the AR-50. They are really competitively priced for world class sniper systems.

Bushmaster is supposed to be coming out with their own .50 system. If I were looking at buying a .50, I'd wait and see how they are priced. Barrets are really nice, but they are just too freakin' expensive for me.

355 ciaospirit  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:42:31pm

Halloween cartoon that sums up Obama and the Dems nicely.

356 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:42:36pm

re: #332 alien_mind

Tito my man! puts Colmes in his place, tells him don't pretend that the American people are stupid. this guy rocks. they need him on the campaign trail every day!


Agree entirely!

"Obama wants to give us crumbs" This guy GETS IT!

He's a REAL American

357 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:42:39pm

Does Hannity get a tingle up his leg every time Obama says his name?

358 SteveC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:42:46pm

re: #353 Irene NYC

I got my copy of Prairie Fire on Monday....When I actually picked it up in my hands, I was spooked - and pretty upset for my country.

That thing's gotta have some bad mojo!

359 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:42:55pm

re: #350 loppyd

I think that chick who was whining about buying milk ought to stop getting acrylic nails at $60 a set and sell the Navigator in the driveway so she doesn't have to decide if she can afford a gallon or a half gallon.

That was in the 30-minute spot, I'm talking about one that lasts half-a-minute here.

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:43:04pm

re: #348 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't you hate it when you start to type a sentence but don't finish the thought. Anybody got a ritalin?

361 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:43:04pm

re: #349 middlecon

I doubt those calls had the tag line 'I'm George Bush adn I approved this message'. Its all in the integrity.

They did not, but there was little doubt about the source.

Lets not go 'round and 'round.

I get your point.

I'd still vote for her to save the senate from being filibuster proof.

362 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:43:07pm

re: #49 Charles

Andrew McCarthy pulled his article offline.

IMHO, it's not difficult to imagine that Ayers had a hand in writing Obama's books, or that Obama cribbed part of his writing style from Ayers. The two have worked closely together.

But unless Obama, or Ayers, or some third party who was indisputably in a position to know actually comes out and admits that the two collaborated, all this can ever be is speculation, and so it has to be treated.

363 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:43:08pm

Tito has problems with his eyes ... the other night when he was on he did not have glasses on and his right eye was blinking like crazy ....that is why he is wearing shades ... I Love Tito !

364 yah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:43:11pm

re: #324 CyanSnowHawk
The "fairytale" has turned into a nightmare.

365 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:43:36pm

re: #238 Charles

My goodness.

That's a very generous way of putting it.

366 loppyd  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:44:00pm

BBIAB

367 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:44:53pm

re: #338 NomadOfNorad

On a somewhat different note... what do you guys think of Obama's latest 30-second TV commercial? It says something about going to a tax-related website and plugging in some info about your place in society... and it supposedly tells you that Obama's tax plan gives you more money left... :-|

Yeah, that rather assumes that Obama isn't lying through his teeth about his announced tax-plan...

That's where he out and out LIES saying the Heritage Foundation prefers his non-existent tax cut plan over McCain's. Heritage sent him a cease-and-desist letter but Obama's campaign refused.

368 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:45:00pm

re: #341 TheMatrix31

Has this cartoon been posted?

Campaign Wealth

Saw it this morning, more than just funny, scary even.

369 Womball  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:45:05pm

Check out Drudge. An Obama effigy resulted in 2 arrests. While the Palin effigy resulted in no arrests and not much coverage.

370 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:45:24pm

re: #303 ClosetConservative

Greetings from the middle of Boston. A moonbat warzone indeed. All this bat guano on the walls is starting to get to me.

What's the political climate up where you make your home?

Where I work it is totaly Obama, 80 percent of 'me workmates are black. On the home front, 'me beloved parents caved in to media propaganda and are voting Obama. But what I am really sensing is that the "undecided" are looking at the candidates and siding with the proven and documentated "Mavrick" McCain. Obama has no record except for left-wing socialism. Obama and the media talk a good game, but Americans are not deceived. I expect the biggest upset since Truman vs Dewey!

371 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:45:25pm

re: #331 willowone

I've been looking at the Democrats for too long, I guess. Nothing they do really surprises me. It is one of the reasons I am so scared about this election. Obama has been hanging out with people that calmly contemplated killing 25 million Americans.

And that doesn't really surprise me. I am just appalled that that doesn't disqualify him from running for office.

372 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:45:26pm

re: #353 Irene NYC

I got my copy of Prairie Fire on Monday. I agree with zombie. When I actually picked it up in my hands, I was spooked - and pretty upset for my country.

It's been around for 34 years.

/where did you get a copy?

373 Daisy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:45:33pm

How about that rumor about Obama not giving any assistance to his poverty stricken relatives?
Oh, wait ...

And then there's that one about Obama helping the murderer Odinga's campaign.
Oh, wait ...

Can we talk about Sarah Palin's clothing now?

374 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:46:04pm

re: #341 TheMatrix31

Has this cartoon been posted?

Campaign Wealth

I posted it last night and in the spin-off links, matrix. But it's worth seeing again!

375 yah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:46:06pm

re: #347 Zimriel

Thanks.

376 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:46:35pm

re: #369 Womball

Check out Drudge. An Obama effigy resulted in 2 arrests. While the Palin effigy resulted in no arrests and not much coverage.

/the latter was on private property, the former was on a college campus

377 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:46:54pm

Norm Coleman is suing Al Franken for defamation of character.

It was notable to me that when Coleman pulled his negative ads a few weeks back, Franken, who had been complaining about them, continued to run his negative ads. In fact, they got worse.

378 ayatollah ghilmeini  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:47:47pm

Truman or Coke?

1948 saw two of the most amazing elections in US history, the comeback of Harry Truman to beat Tom Dewey and Lyndon Johnson's defeat of Coke Stevenson to be a US Senator from Texas.

History does not treat losers kindly. Practically no one knows who Dewey was and Stevenson is an even more forgotten man. The point is that John McCain and Obama are blasting towards the point where someone is going to make history and someone else is going to be a footnote and the similarities between this election and the election in 1948 are rather remarkable. McCain is suited for either role, his comeback would be historic and memorable making him a Truman figure; and if he loses, he will share a lot with Stevenson.

So who was coke Stevenson? A former Governor, Coke faced LBJ and stood in his path to power; LBJ was known to have presidential ambitions dating at least back to the early 30s. LBJ was a super aggressive man and one of America's most ethically challenged politicians. IN an amazingly close hard-fought race, Coke lost by a just few hundred votes. It took the intervention of a Supreme Court justice to stop a recount of obviously stuffed ballot boxes in South Texas and legendary manipulation of the system for Lyndon to win. And rest assured, the evidence of a stolen election is overwhelming, Johnson cheated. Buzzing around Texas in a helicopter to attract crowds, Johnson positioned himself as the new man; to Texan who had never seen a helicopter before, he was like a man from space. But Lyndon has all of the qualities in Obama that have endeared him so much to the readers of this blog: he was lying sack of manure from the day he was born with a ruthless thirst for power and a willingness to do anything to get there, the only difference is LBJ was a greedy SOB and never infused with Obama's leftism. But LBJ was the golden child of his day.

By contrast, Stevenson was the last cowboy, a giant among men, a lenged in the Lone Star State, poured out of the hard Texas soil and a man of unbelievable strength and character. The idea of campaigning in an unseemly way was alien to him.

As for Truman, exhausted by war and down in the polls, he took his case to the American people and won, against all odds and a media that did not believe he could, should or would win.

As you can see, the similarities between the 1948 races are nothing short of remarkable. Obama has been given a free pass on his unsavory qualities and associations, his use of the internet to take campaign contributions is as novel an innovation as LBJ's helicopter. McCain refuses to mention Rev. Wright even though he might lose by not doing so.

So which will it be, Truman or Stevenson? If the folks from HillBuzz are right, John Sydney will hold up a copy of the latest issue of New York with a smile of unbridled joy (which will alas still be slightly smaller than my own) and if the foreign dollars and prostituted press do bring him down, he will denied his rightful place, partly denied by his unwillingness to campaign in the gutter and partly because, like 60 years ago, we are entering a new age of American politics. Let's hope it is McCain, America needs more Trumans and Stevensons and less Obamas and LBJs.

Fight! Believe in the Victory!

379 kansas  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:48:04pm

re: #377 arethusa

Norm Coleman is suing Al Franken for defamation of character.

It was notable to me that when Coleman pulled his negative ads a few weeks back, Franken, who had been complaining about them, continued to run his negative ads. In fact, they got worse.

Al Franken is a miserable POS unsuitable for any office.

380 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:48:16pm

re: #355 ciaospirit

Funny, we used that example yesterday to explain Obama's tax plan to the kids.

381 Womball  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:48:30pm

I still think its going to get a lot more coverage.

382 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:49:25pm

re: #356 CIA Reject

Agree entirely!

"Obama wants to give us crumbs" This guy GETS IT!

He's a REAL American


The crumbs line was great.
I'd love to see Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric interview Tito.

383 JustMyView  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:50:22pm

re: #91 shay4l

As mama Winger said repeatedly on a previous thread, they're the ONLY people he's been orbiting. Where are the friends, basketball players from pickup games, room mates, classmates, professors, associates, State Senators, ANYONE he has buddied up with, who isn't a complete radical?

Some of them are described in this article. Lots of detail, including the names of his basketball-playing friends.

384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:51:42pm

re: #382 alien_mind

The crumbs line was great.
I'd love to see Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric interview Tito.

For those of us without cable, who is this Tito guy? Not Josef, I'll assume? : )

385 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:51:51pm

re: #363 JacksonTn

Tito has problems with his eyes ... the other night when he was on he did not have glasses on and his right eye was blinking like crazy ....that is why he is wearing shades ... I Love Tito !

He knows what he is talking about, he had Chavez as a neighbor:

In an interview on Fox News with Neil Cavuto, Tito the Builder kept referring to Hugo Chavez and Venezuela, saying he understands the Obama playbook to have a socialist agenda, that he’s “seen it before” and that he could “even smell it”. He also said that Sarah Palin gave him a “warm feeling” and that even though he doesn’t know her very well, she is a “wonderful woman” and will make a “wonderful vice president”. It also seems Tito has a winking problem and can’t really explain the similarities/differences in the economic policies of John McCain and Barack Obama. Here is the interview:

[Link: wendycarrillo.blogspot.com...]

386 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:51:55pm

re: #381 Womball

I still think its going to get a lot more coverage.

Well, you got about tomorrow.

/starting Saturday, both campaigns will start shifting gears into ground game mode and God help McCain/Palin, please

387 Jimash  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:52:16pm

re: #105 LoFlyer

Arr, mates I actually have seen the Forestal video of McCain escaping from his burning plane, and his cockpit wash awash in flame two seconds after he escaped. Anyone who was aboard the Forestal that day was a hero. I saw a chief charge into the flames with a fire extinguisher and dissapear in a 500 pounder blast. McCain is no coward and proven by fire. Obama has no credentials in his profile of courage...

Of all these rumors and mischaracterizations this one makes me the maddest.
It is unreal what they say about a man whose balls they could not carry.

388 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:52:19pm

re: #377 arethusa

Norm Coleman is suing Al Franken for defamation of character.

It was notable to me that when Coleman pulled his negative ads a few weeks back, Franken, who had been complaining about them, continued to run his negative ads. In fact, they got worse.

If Obama wins and the Democrats get themselves a super-majority, that will be absolutely awful.....but having to hear the words "Senator Al Fraken" will be unbearable.

389 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:52:31pm

re: #384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

For those of us without cable, who is this Tito guy? Not Josef, I'll assume? : )

Tito Ortiz?

390 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:52:34pm

re: #369 Womball

Check out Drudge. An Obama effigy resulted in 2 arrests. While the Palin effigy resulted in no arrests and not much coverage.

If Obama wins, Zombie will have less loons to cover lol...I'm sure they will still be around but I think we will only see the crazy of crazies who would be bold enough to have anti-Obama effigies.

On the other hand we might see the resurgance of the 'Black Helicopter/New World Order' crazies that were around when Clinton was President.

391 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:53:00pm

re: #354 Iron Fist

If you want long range firepower, I like the Armalite AR-30. Or the AR-50. They are really competitively priced for world class sniper systems.

Bushmaster is supposed to be coming out with their own .50 system. If I were looking at buying a .50, I'd wait and see how they are priced. Barrets are really nice, but they are just too freakin' expensive for me.

Check this out Iron, I will need a bypod and scope but, but this is some serious equipment at a serious price....

392 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:53:47pm

Stuck as I am on an Obama campaign email list, I'm starting to find them amusing. The latest, purportedly from Michelle, is titled "What Barack needs." The first line of the message says, "I know this election has asked a lot of you."

She has no idea. I will be very happy to see November 5, not just because McCain will have won, but because after nearly two years of this, it's time to move on.

393 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:54:06pm

re: #227 ciaospirit

I had to laugh. A caller said on Rush today that he was infuriated listening to one of Obama's "victims" in his infomercial as she whined that she didn't have enough money for milk for her kids, yet there she was with a full set of acrylic fingernails. Maybe could buy some milk instead of paying the upkeep on those nails?

I had a similar reaction to that whiny lady. What was her problem exactly? I never did figure it out. Her refrigerator looked full. She had a nice house with a nice yard. She didn't look raggedy. So life is tough because she has to watch what she spends?

Sorry, lady. That's life.

394 lennysquiggy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:54:29pm

#289 Charles:

I've dealt with FoxNews and Hannity (both independently) and this doesn't surprise me. FoxNews producers are some of the dumbest people I've encountered in TV or film. Sean is a really good guy, but he just lacks something. It's hard to put a finger on it - he seems to have integrity and he certainly understands the world we live in better than most. But he just ain't Rush... Never will be. If I had a nickel for everytime Rush took the time to credit a story to you or RedState, I wouldn't be eligible for Barry's fantasy tax cut.

By the way, I posted a link to Prairie Fire in the Spinoff Links well over a month ago, as far as I can remember. Just sayin.

395 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:54:42pm
396 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:55:06pm

re: #376 Killian Bundy

/the latter was on private property, the former was on a college campus

One was an effigy a a white person and one was NOT.
Race IS the issue and the LAW.
It is a double standard.

Hate crimes are extraordinary justice which appeals to the passions not just
Justice.

Campus code of conduct issues are a separate matter.

397 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:55:22pm

re: #384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

For those of us without cable, who is this Tito guy? Not Josef, I'll assume? : )

At a McCain rally in (I think) VA a few weeks back, Tito showed up with one purpose in mind: to grill the media corps there about why they were treating McCain-Palin the way they were. He became an instant celebrity. He's a naturalized citizen who (I think) works in construction.

398 ayatollah ghilmeini  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:55:43pm

Charles a suggestion, send a joint letter from yourself, Debbie Schlussel and Zombie, perhaps a few others robbed bloggers to Roger Ailes the head of Fox News.

Say you have no qualm with Hannity using your material but when he siphons from the blogosphere he should give attribution, even if only on his own website to save valuable airtime. But do it very publicly so they have to respond but in a way that makes their climb down easiest.

Cite instances of material not being properly credited and tell them that since Fox values its reputation, they would do well to keep the record straight.

399 talon_262  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:56:11pm

re: #235 alien_mind

I realized tonight that O'Reilly is having a snit because neither McCain or Palin have come on his show, and Obama has. There was a segment tonight that revealed he is really po'd about it. I think that is why he is so negative on McCain at this point. If McCain were to lose, I already know that you will hear him saying, "I told them they needed to come on the factor. Obama did and he got elected". Its all about him.

O'Reilly fancies himself a kingmaker, when he's simply a douchebag with an inflated ego...

400 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:56:53pm

re: #388 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama wins and the Democrats get themselves a super-majority, that will be absolutely awful.....but having to hear the words "Senator Al Fraken" will be unbearable.

A Republican pundit whose name escapes me said that that might be the bitterest pill of all to swallow on Election Night.

I think all the MN papers, even the Strib, have endorsed Coleman, and the polls have him with a slight lead.

401 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:57:02pm

re: #382 alien_mind

The crumbs line was great.
I'd love to see Charlie Gibson or Katie Couric interview Tito.


LOL! So would I.
I think their heads would explode!

402 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:57:34pm

re: #397 arethusa

At a McCain rally in (I think) VA a few weeks back, Tito showed up with one purpose in mind: to grill the media corps there about why they were treating McCain-Palin the way they were. He became an instant celebrity. He's a naturalized citizen who (I think) works in construction.

Thanks, just found who he is here.

403 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:58:03pm

re: #234 kcladderman

A letter to the editor in the Kansas City Star the other, the lady wrote .. I don't care how much Joe the plumber pays in taxes but I know Cindy Mcain the millionaire beer distributer needs to pay more taxes.
I could not believe people think like that.

This all boils down to the politics of envy. That's what seems to motivate so much political thinking. Big Oil....bad. Big Pharma....bad. OK, complainer. Don't buy oil or pills. No more beer for you either. Brew your own. Grow your own tomatoes while you're at it. I'm really quite tired of all the complainers who have nothing to complain about.

404 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:58:17pm
405 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:58:23pm

re: #378 ayatollah ghilmeini

Haar mate! Thanks for the insight! Keep the faith mates...

406 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:59:54pm

re: #391 LoFlyer

Check this out Iron, I will need a bypod and scope but, but this is some serious equipment at a serious price....


Arr, forgot the link! Try this mates!

407 pink freud  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 6:59:54pm

"Carol Anne Burger killed her former lover by stabbing her 222 times with a Phillips-head screwdriver and then took pains to hide her crime, police said Wednesday."

"Burger, a 57-year-old writer, did yoga, had a fondness for Shark Week on the Discovery Channel and preferred to watch musicals in theaters with Dolby Sound. She recently stopped drinking coffee. She thought Jackson Browne's For a Dancer was good to listen to when you were sad, and she refused to take anti-depressants despite her relationship problems with Kalish."

"Burger, who on Oct. 7 was tapped to cover the election for the Web site, The Huffington Post, still sometimes felt sad and isolated."

The rest of the story.

408 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:00:17pm

re: #110 SteveC

I'm pretty sure I saw a History Channel "Greatest Disasters" (or something like that) about the Forrestal fire. They showed a tape of the burning deck, and pointed "Future US Senator John McCain" unbuckling his harnnes and getting the F*** out before the fire spread to his plane.

Seconded

409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:00:25pm

re: #398 ayatollah ghilmeini

I was listening to that on the way home on Sirius.

I am torn. I want Charles, Zombie and others to get the credit they deserve, and I want LGF to get more popular.

But I hate the spinning wheel of despair so much, that I really don't want more traffic here.

410 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:00:54pm

re: #384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

For those of us without cable, who is this Tito guy? Not Josef, I'll assume? : )


He's another average guy thrust into the spotlight, who started speaking up to reporters with regard to Joe The Plumber, and now he's making campaign appearances with Palin.
He's a common sense guy who is not fooled one iota by Obama's schemes. He is a riot to listen to.

411 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:01:33pm

re: #409 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was listening to that on the way home on Sirius.

I am torn. I want Charles, Zombie and others to get the credit they deserve, and I want LGF to get more popular.

But I hate the spinning wheel of despair so much, that I really don't want more traffic here.

To prevent that, what we need is a faster server and more hamsters.

412 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:01:45pm

HTs mean something... hence the death of journalism.

413 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:01:51pm

re: #391 LoFlyer

A couple of grand for the AR-30. That is really a good price for what you are getting. Custom sniper rigs can run $5K. If you want to go with a 7.62 NATO rig that can do the job, you're looking at a PSG-1. Getting a real one of those will run you whatever it takes to convince the guy with one to part with it. I'm not sure how many PSG-1's are available in the country, though.

I'd stay away from the Dragunovs. They just really don't impress me, especially for the price.

Another way to go is to kinda build your own. Get a Remington 700 in .300 Win. Mag (why not?), add a good scope ($500-1000 for quality optics), and have the gun worked over by a competent gunsmith. You're looking at real close to the price of the AR-30 if you do that, though.

Guns just aren't cheap any more. Not for ones you'd really want to have.

414 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:02:22pm

I noticed that O' Reilly has been changing his tune about the messiah in the last few weeks, he probably made a deal with him after the famous "Exclusive Interview" on the night of the Republican Convention.

That is probably why Palin and McCain will NOT go and interview with O'Reilly..

HE SOLD OUT TO THE MESSIAH FIRST!

415 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:03:48pm

I realize that there are many Americans who are voting for Senator Government only because he says he will give them money ... I understand that to many $500 or $1,000 would make the difference in a month or so of electric bills, water bills, etc. ...but what makes me so sad is that they are willing to hand over the country to a socialist for this small amount of money ...not thinking past the "change" that will be in their wallets for a small period of time ...to the total change in the American way of life ...I just do not believe many understand what they are about to do ... Senator Government is using "blacks" as his vehicle and to me that is so so sad ...they are being used in the worst way and most do not even know it ...We Must Win This Election !

416 lennysquiggy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:04:26pm

#404 taxfreekiller:

I gotta defend Sean on this (kinda). It really would not surprise me if Sean doesn't regularly read blogs. I would say it is possible that he has his producers scouring the web and just handing him the information without attribution. I think Sean has the integrity to mention where he got a story if he knows where he got it. I don't think FoxNews producers (who are usually just out of college and haven't a clue what they are doing) would understand that these stories should be credited to blogs.

I dunno. It's just a gut feeling based on my dealings with them.

417 pink freud  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:04:32pm

re: #414 El Lizardo mejicano

I noticed that O' Reilly has been changing his tune about the messiah in the last few weeks, he probably made a deal with him after the famous "Exclusive Interview" on the night of the Republican Convention.

That is probably why Palin and McCain will NOT go and interview with O'Reilly..

HE SOLD OUT TO THE MESSIAH FIRST!

I believe part of his exact quite tonight was "Obama is an honorable man." I can't watch this shit any more.

418 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:04:48pm

re: #367 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

That's where he out and out LIES saying the Heritage Foundation prefers his non-existent tax cut plan over McCain's. Heritage sent him a cease-and-desist letter but Obama's campaign refused.

Are we talking about the same commercial? The one I'm seeing points you to some supposedly indipendant web address with Tax in the name, tells you to plug in your statistics, and it tells you that with Obama, you'd save $1000 in taxes while with McCain you'd only save $150... :-|

419 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:05:06pm

re: #415 JacksonTn

30 freaking pieces of silver. *spit*

420 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:05:57pm

re: #415 JacksonTn

Kinda like a high-dollar hooker, we already know what the voters are, we're just dickering about the price. And it is amazingly low for way too many Americans.

421 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:05:59pm
422 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:07:12pm

re: #414 El Lizardo mejicano

I noticed that O' Reilly has been changing his tune about the messiah in the last few weeks, he probably made a deal with him after the famous "Exclusive Interview" on the night of the Republican Convention.

That is probably why Palin and McCain will NOT go and interview with O'Reilly..

HE SOLD OUT TO THE MESSIAH FIRST!

That is NOT true. O'Reilly has hammered Obama on the socialist issue and on the attacks on Joe Wurzelbacher. He not endorsing anyone, but he is on our side.

423 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:07:33pm

re: #335 Ringo the Gringo

The Atlas Shrugs' post is about Malcolm X being Obama's "real" father.

Go look....(Google: Atlas Shrugs Malcolm X)

Jeebus! I'd never looked at Obama and Malcolm the Tenth side by side like that. There IS a definite resemblance. Even more so than between Obama and Davis. The ears, the forehead and hairline, the shape of the jaw...

So if Malcolm the Tenth is his dad wouldn't this make Obama Malcolm the Eleventh?

The article itself was not so convincing...the pictures make me think twice however.


This freaking election is creeping me the hell out.

424 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:01pm
425 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:15pm

re: #417 pink freud

Yeah, I'm with you. Honorable is not the adjective that come to mind when I think of Obama. Honorable men don't affiliate themselves with anti-American terrorists.

426 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:23pm

Weather forecasts for some of the battleground states.

My high school government teacher told us that for every inch of rain, Republicans gain 2.5% in the final tally. No idea if that's true.

427 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:30pm

re: #416 lennysquiggy

FWIW, Sean does mention Charles and LGF from time to time on his show.

428 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:31pm

re: #70 buzzsawmonkey

Jammie! Congratulations on your Opinionator hat-tip!

Thanks. A link would have been nice, but since I get under their skin, they deprived me. Oh well. It's not like getting linked at the NY Times generates much traffic.

429 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:53pm

re: #410 alien_mind

He's another average guy thrust into the spotlight, who started speaking up to reporters with regard to Joe The Plumber, and now he's making campaign appearances with Palin.
He's a common sense guy who is not fooled one iota by Obama's schemes. He is a riot to listen to.

Tito and Joe are the real deal and they underscore BO as being the candidate of latte-sipping metrosexual socialists.

McCain should have them both out on the stump and on TV every day right up to the election.

430 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:08:55pm

They missed the nasty rumors about McCain being a RINO and Obama being a Socialist (toss-up over whether it is nationalist or trans-nationalist).

'Course putting out petty nasty rumors kinda-sorta minimizes truths of more substance, does it not?

431 pink freud  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:09:33pm

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

Wrong. O'Reilly gives Obama a pass, night after night.

432 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:09:43pm
433 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:10:00pm

re: #426 arethusa

Like 95% of all statistics, I suspect that that was just made up.

:-)

434 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:10:04pm

re: #404 taxfreekiller

Hannity,

The deal is, you, no one but you,,,allow this skelator to spout his bull shit,
and for what,, the money, the ratings, the Nielson's, your fat ass paycheck from old man Murlock.

Here is the deal, you take zombie's work and not credit it correct and in the same moment in time you allow this Allen Colmbs and these others shit wipes to pour their shit on top of any truth you on the accident stumble on on zombies blog.

So, we are going to after the election spend an little time checking your ass out.

ps
PBS SUCK AND ITS MY TAX MONEY THAT ALLOWS THIS SHIT WIPE
JUAN WILLIAMS TO LIE CHEAT AND STEAL THE TRUTH RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY EYES......

SCREW YOU JUAN, YOUR A F'N FAKE.........................

more wine now, drunk on the intertubes

I AGREE about Juan completely, he is a douchebag..supported by my tax dollars.
If you like Merlot, you should give this one a
try:[Link: www.cyclesgladiator.com...]

435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:10:09pm

re: #426 arethusa

Weather forecasts for some of the battleground states.

My high school government teacher told us that for every inch of rain, Republicans gain 2.5% in the final tally. No idea if that's true.

No snow? NO SNOW? ARRRRRRGH!

436 Throbert McGee  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:10:13pm

re: #122 Charles

And the religious fanatics are in trouble again tonight.

Elizabeth Dole apparently FAKED the voice of her opponent Kay Hagan, in an attack ad claiming she's an evil godless atheist.

I just watched the Dole ad (and the response from Hagan), and I think what they did was worse than if they'd hired a skilled vocal impressionist to literally fake Hagan's voice. At the end of the Dole ad, we see an image of Hagan while a "nondescript adult female" voiceover announces: "There is no God!" Thus, the ad encourages the viewer to associate Hagan with atheism, and even puts the idea in the viewer's mind that it might have been Hagan herself who delivered the "There is no God!" line.

But Hagan's real voice isn't distinctive enough that one could say, with certainty, that the female voiceover in the Dole ad was selected because she sounded "just like" Hagan (which would be tantamount to fraud). By using a female speaker whose voice sounds a little like Hagan's, but not necessarily a LOT like Hagan's, the Dole campaign managed to put the "Hagan = atheist" idea in voters' minds while maintaining "plausible deniability" about a misleading ad.

437 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:10:17pm

Good evening, Lizards.

438 HoosierHoops  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:11:44pm

re: #437 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

Good evenng goddess...
I hope life is finding you well

439 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:12:08pm
440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:12:26pm

re: #438 HoosierHoops

Good evenng goddess...
I hope life is finding you well

I hope it finds her too. I'm hiding under a table.

441 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:12:28pm

re: #437 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

Weet dreams gotc!

442 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:12:32pm

re: #407 pink freud

"Carol Anne Burger killed her former lover by stabbing her 222 times with a Phillips-head screwdriver and then took pains to hide her crime, police said Wednesday."

"Burger, a 57-year-old writer, did yoga, had a fondness for Shark Week on the Discovery Channel and preferred to watch musicals in theaters with Dolby Sound. She recently stopped drinking coffee. She thought Jackson Browne's For a Dancer was good to listen to when you were sad, and she refused to take anti-depressants despite her relationship problems with Kalish."

"Burger, who on Oct. 7 was tapped to cover the election for the Web site, The Huffington Post, still sometimes felt sad and isolated."

The rest of the story.

Wonder why they always emphasize it was a philips-head screwdriver instead of just being stabbed with a screwdriver? Just curious.

443 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:12:42pm

re: #438 HoosierHoops

Good evenng goddess...
I hope life is finding you well

{HoosierHoops}
Meh. It could be much worse, and I have much to be grateful for.

444 wee fury  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:12:51pm

re: #431 pink freud

Wrong. O'Reilly gives Obama a pass, night after night.

'Fair and Balanced' the O'Reilly mantra. So he says.
/Unless he sees his money going down the tubes in the stock market.

445 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:07pm

re: #413 Iron Fist

A couple of grand for the AR-30. That is really a good price for what you are getting. Custom sniper rigs can run $5K. If you want to go with a 7.62 NATO rig that can do the job, you're looking at a PSG-1. Getting a real one of those will run you whatever it takes to convince the guy with one to part with it. I'm not sure how many PSG-1's are available in the country, though.

I'd stay away from the Dragunovs. They just really don't impress me, especially for the price.

Another way to go is to kinda build your own. Get a Remington 700 in .300 Win. Mag (why not?), add a good scope ($500-1000 for quality optics), and have the gun worked over by a competent gunsmith. You're looking at real close to the price of the AR-30 if you do that, though.

Guns just aren't cheap any more. Not for ones you'd really want to have.

Interesting Iron, that is what 'me next door neighbor did. But I am a network engineer rather than gunsmith. I would rather buy an integrated product and upgrade the sights. I wish I could buy a thermal imager for 500 bucks, that ain't happening so I will stick with some good optics...

446 JustMyView  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:18pm

re: #186 Tigger2005

My last post on the matter, as I definitely don't want to incur Charles' displeasure. Regardless of the source, I still don't find the idea that Obama's autobiographies were ghostwritten that incredible in and of itself. Lots of people have their autobiographies ghostwritten. I haven't seen any evidence that Obama displayed any exceptional writing talent prior to the publication of the autobiographies. As editor of the Harvard Law review, he had a prime opportunity for displaying his ability to write persuasive articles about legal and judicial issues of importance to him, and he didn't take it.

Writing is hard. Writing well is harder. There is no collection of articles and essays by Obama that one can point to as evidence of his developing writing ability. Unless he's some kind of late-onset idiot savant, he probably had a lot of help writing those books.

That is all.

He came to the attention of the University of Chicago through his work with a conservative law professor while he was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. (Scroll down to the interview w/ Janny Scott). The interview notes that, before he went back to Chicago after law school, he was already planning to write his first book.

447 Alouette  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:23pm

re: #338 NomadOfNorad

it supposedly tells you that Obama's tax plan gives you more money left... :-|

You misheard. It tells you that Obama's tax plan gives more of your money to the left...

448 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:28pm

re: #418 NomadOfNorad

Are we talking about the same commercial? The one I'm seeing points you to some supposedly indipendant web address with Tax in the name, tells you to plug in your statistics, and it tells you that with Obama, you'd save $1000 in taxes while with McCain you'd only save $150... :-|

Yep, that is the commercial.

449 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:40pm

re: #342 artdog

Because when it's the "evil" oil companies, any profit is a windfall. It's also part of that "people before profits" crap. Um -- who makes the profits? That would be everyday Americans who own shares through their 401(k)s. Nah, that's too much thinking for MSM and leftie to do....

On a related note, it's interesting how whenever the MSM mentions Halliburton for any reason, they always say, "formerly headed by Vice President Dick Cheney." OOOHHHH-- the evil, the evil!

I always enjoyed asking people if they knew what Halliburton did. I also asked them if there were a lot of other companies that could do what Halliburton did in Iraq. They didn't care. Halliburton was just "evil."

450 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:41pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope it finds her too. I'm hiding under a table.

Oh, I'd love it if life found me! It would be such a step up from existing.

451 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:48pm

re: #417 pink freud

I believe part of his exact quite tonight was "Obama is an honorable man." I can't watch this shit any more.

He has DEFINITELY changed his tune with the One.

452 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:56pm

re: #442 Outrider

Wonder why they always emphasize it was a philips-head screwdriver instead of just being stabbed with a screwdriver? Just curious.

SYNONYM - Cross-Tip

453 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:13:57pm

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

O' Reilly is for O'Reilly. He states what he sees from his perspective. His ego seems to be a part of his reporting. He seems conservative, but a little narcissistic, I watch him because he seems honest and is careful to do some analysis. It is commentary, not always news.

He must have taken a bath in the stock market based on his emotional outbursts on the issue. Transparent but not offensive.

454 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:14:02pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We gotta spit out our gum now.

455 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:14:22pm

re: #431 pink freud

Wrong. O'Reilly gives Obama a pass, night after night.

I do not agree.

456 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:14:23pm

Does it really matter? It's already well established that Ayers and Dohrn are unrepentant very bad people and Obama absolutely ran in their circles. But it's equally obvious that the vast unwashed American electorate, read undecided voters, won't [expletive deleted] be educated on this important Obama alliance before Tuesday and aren't in the [expletive deleted] least interested anyway.

It really is the economy stupid.

/Obama is playing rope-a-dope/prevent defense, promise everything, don't explain how you're going to pay for anything

457 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:14:27pm

re: #422 Dark_Falcon

That is NOT true. O'Reilly has hammered Obama on the socialist issue and on the attacks on Joe Wurzelbacher. He not endorsing anyone, but he is on our side.


He is for himself first, I'm convinced of that.

458 lennysquiggy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:14:43pm

#424:

Well yeah. I would tend to agree that he is incompetent.

459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:14:50pm

re: #439 taxfreekiller

I've heard O'Reilly say (many, many times) "With John McCain, at least you know what you're getting. With Obama, you just don't know, and I don't like that at all."

Seriously, I've heard him say it many times.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Obama. I think he is trying so hard not to come across partisan, that at times he does.

I'll agree to disagree on this one.

460 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:15:23pm

re: #426 arethusa

Weather forecasts for some of the battleground states.

My high school government teacher told us that for every inch of rain, Republicans gain 2.5% in the final tally. No idea if that's true.

Why? Rain doesn't fall on us?
/

461 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:15:26pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope it finds her too. I'm hiding under a table.

Keep that table handy, you may need it if Obama wins and life goes on the prowl for Lizards!

Heck, I may join you.

462 guzziguy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:15:56pm

re: #442 Outrider

Wonder why they always emphasize it was a philips-head screwdriver instead of just being stabbed with a screwdriver? Just curious.

Trying to appear tool-literate instead of simply being literate tools?

463 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:15:56pm

re: #378 ayatollah ghilmeini

I read Robert Caro's Path to Power, which documented the LBJ/Stevenson campaign in Texas.

There are a lot of similarities to the McCain/Obama race.

Indeed, scary sh!t.

464 LeePro  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:07pm

Charles, are you still here?

This is major OT, but I sent you email and nothing happened.

The permalink on each individual comment number (not in a reply, but on original comments) read as follows (without the spaces):

http :// littlegreenfootballs .com / weblog / #

This started a few weeks ago, after your last major upgrade. I'm on Mac (10.4), with FireFox 3. Same happens on Safari. Have cleared cache, rebooted, restarted computer, etc., etc. Always shut down at night, start up fresh in the morning.

Want to refer (externally, as in another thread or via email) to certain comment(s), but cannot anymore. Can you fix this?

PLEEEEEEZE?

465 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:16pm

re: #454 wolfie

We gotta spit out our gum now.

LOL! I make my students do that at school! I have a stack of papers cut from scrap papers especially dedicated to wrapping the wads before they're thrown in the trash.

My reminder has been condensed to, "Gum. Trash. Now."

466 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:41pm

re: #435 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

No snow? NO SNOW? ARRRRRRGH!

One pirate at LGF is enough, FBV. : )))

467 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:43pm

O'Rally, O'Rally, O'Rally, O'Rally
His life is but a screed.

468 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:48pm

re: #454 wolfie

We gotta spit out our gum now.

That's your gum. Stop putting it under this table. Some got in my hair.

469 pink freud  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:50pm

re: #440 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope it finds her too. I'm hiding under a table.

Is there room under there for me?

470 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:55pm

re: #379 kansas

Al Franken is a miserable POS unsuitable for any office.

And he is a miserable failure kept afloat by God knows what....

471 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:16:56pm

re: #456 Killian Bundy

Does it really matter? It's already well established that Ayers and Dohrn are unrepentant very bad people and Obama absolutely ran in their circles.

Another ugly "rumor" not itemized.

472 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:07pm

re: #442 Outrider

Wonder why they always emphasize it was a philips-head screwdriver instead of just being stabbed with a screwdriver? Just curious.

You didn't know? Phillips head screwdrivers are Assault Screwdrivers.

473 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:10pm

re: #460 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Why? Rain doesn't fall on us?
/

Under an Obama administration....umbrellas for all!

474 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:13pm

re: #453 Pepper

O' Reilly is for O'Reilly. He states what he sees from his perspective. His ego seems to be a part of his reporting. He seems conservative, but a little narcissistic, I watch him because he seems honest and is careful to do some analysis. It is commentary, not always news.

He must have taken a bath in the stock market based on his emotional outbursts on the issue. Transparent but not offensive.

Gave up on O'Reilly years ago and never regretted it mate!

475 ClosetConservative  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:30pm

re: #456 Killian Bundy

Obama? Rope-a-dope?

I prefer 'dope-on-a-hope', kinda like soap on a rope.

476 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:30pm

re: #437 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

I'm hot for Teacher (No video tonight)!

477 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:40pm

re: #448 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So, is the commercial pointing you to the Heritage Foundation's site, or is it pointing you to a site claiming to GET it's info from the Heritage Foundation? If it's actually pointing TO a site belonging to the Heritage Foundation, you'd figure the Heritage Foundation would place on there a HUGE banner saying "DON'T BELIEVE OBAMA'S COMMERCIAL!" when you get to the page where you plug in your info...

478 notutopia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:42pm

re: #85 Charles

EGOMANIA will do that to a nice girl/ sarc

479 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:51pm

re: #429 CIA Reject

Tito and Joe are the real deal and they underscore BO as being the candidate of latte-sipping metrosexual socialists.

McCain should have them both out on the stump and on TV every day right up to the election.


right, Joe and Tito are people who work hard and are not looking for a government handout. In other words they have nothing in common with Senator Government.

480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:52pm

re: #466 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

One pirate at LGF is enough, FBV. : )))

(that would be Garrrrr!)

481 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:17:57pm

re: #465 goddessoftheclassroom

Very smart to be prepared, too, lest the kids stick it under their seats.....or worse!

482 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:18:11pm

re: #460 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Why? Rain doesn't fall on us?
/

Guess the idea is that Republicans are the sort of people who plod through life, doing their duty, while Democrats would be put off by a little rain?

Here's an abstract of an article that apparently argues that. Although I would feel better if the 1960 and 2000 elections were not cited as their prime examples. Other things were going on in those elections, too.

483 Alouette  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:18:14pm

re: #470 SurferDoc

And he is a miserable failure kept afloat by God knows what....

Donations from the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club.

484 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:18:34pm
485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:18:59pm

re: #469 pink freud

Is there room under there for me?

Maybe. But, I'm fat. Still wearing my speedo from earlier, I'm very pasty white and there's gum in my hair. Still wanna come on under?

486 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:19:09pm

O'Reilly always says he is 'independent' and the left laughs at that.

I know I'm in the major minority here, but I don't think Obama is a partcularly evil person, he just has the same tried and true bad DNC ideas that have been rejected time and time again.

McCain has said the same thing about Obama being 'honorable' I have no problem with it.

487 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:19:33pm

I demand the rumor that Obama is a reincarnated alternate universe space alien from Alpha Centuri be included!

488 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:19:41pm

re: #470 SurferDoc

Oh, I think we know why he can float!

(Not that I am quite as svelte as I once was, mind you!)

489 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:20:21pm

re: #393 Promethea

she must not live in Illinios. We have free milk to anyone driving an Escalade and sporting fake designer clothing.

490 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:21:12pm

re: #459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've heard O'Reilly say (many, many times) "With John McCain, at least you know what you're getting. With Obama, you just don't know, and I don't like that at all."

Seriously, I've heard him say it many times.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Obama. I think he is trying so hard not to come across partisan, that at times he does.

I'll agree to disagree on this one.

Please Google (O Reilly defending obama) you will see that other people notice a pattern there.

491 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:21:16pm

re: #484 taxfreekiller

push pull amplifiers in parallel
over drive the sine wave,
modulate with 100,000,000 watts
makes the module's dance
pull the signal down to micro,
push it out the end of a directional
inter directed long signal antenna,
a new high microwave dance of death

do the amps use negative feedback to reduce harmonic distortion? Is the antenna a Yagi or Quad?

492 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:21:40pm

re: #485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe. But, I'm fat. Still wearing my speedo from earlier, I'm very pasty white and there's gum in my hair. Still wanna come on under?

A few nights ago, you didn't have pants on, either!

493 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:21:55pm

re: #479 alien_mind

right, Joe and Tito are people who work hard and are not looking for a government handout. In other words they have nothing in common with Senator Government.

That's the whole election in a nutshell: do you want to be independent and solve your own problems or do you want to be a victim and expect the government to solve them for you.

In the America I grew up in people refused to be victims.

494 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:22:00pm

Today I had a meeting with heads of one of the largest stores in the country and six of their district managers ... I never discuss politics during business meetings ...but during a break in our meeting I heard them talking between each other ...there will be layoffs if Senator Government gets in ...What part of business will not pay more taxes does Senator Government not understand ...I am a small business by comparison but we will even lay off if we are forced to pay more taxes ...They were calling him the "Redistributor" ... guess they listen to McCain speeches ...

495 HoosierHoops  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:22:23pm

re: #450 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, I'd love it if life found me! It would be such a step up from existing.

Oh Goddess..you are breaking the hoopster's heart..
You have inspired so many...prayed for many souls...corrected so much french.
You are really good people and I wish the best for you...

496 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:22:25pm

re: #473 TheMatrix31

Under an Obama administration....umbrellas for all!

I'd rather he give us shovels for all the shit he'll be unloading on us. But then again, he's going to lose, so it's a moot point.

497 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:22:32pm

re: #471 PETN Sandwich

Another ugly "rumor" not itemized.

/which part(s)?

498 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:09pm

re: #472 Iron Fist

You didn't know? Phillips head screwdrivers are Assault Screwdrivers.

Yes, but they aren't nearly as deadly as those fully automatic TORX head screwdrivers!

499 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:14pm
500 Perplexed  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:14pm

re: #472 Iron Fist

You didn't know? Phillips head screwdrivers are Assault Screwdrivers.

Keep it up and the little darlings over at TSA will ban Phillips screwdrivers.

501 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:16pm

re: #492 arethusa

A few nights ago, you didn't have pants on, either!

I. Am. Consistent.

502 pink freud  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:22pm

re: #485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe. But, I'm fat. Still wearing my speedo from earlier, I'm very pasty white and there's gum in my hair. Still wanna come on under?

Haha! Sounds ....distracting. I could use some distraction right about now.

/speedo, you say?

503 hazzyday  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:49pm

Down the page on the left menu he has the Palin rumor blog

Rumors when they weren't

504 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:23:57pm

re: #477 NomadOfNorad

So, is the commercial pointing you to the Heritage Foundation's site, or is it pointing you to a site claiming to GET it's info from the Heritage Foundation? If it's actually pointing TO a site belonging to the Heritage Foundation, you'd figure the Heritage Foundation would place on there a HUGE banner saying "DON'T BELIEVE OBAMA'S COMMERCIAL!" when you get to the page where you plug in your info...

No, it just claims that the conservative Heritage Foundation prefers Nobama's tax cut plan to McCains. Which is a lie.

505 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:04pm
506 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:06pm

I'm finally seeing Mccain ads on DC tv.
Just saw a great ad by Let Freedom Ring, a 527 group. Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Fannie Mae, Iran is a tiny country and more, in 60 seconds.

507 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:12pm

re: #495 HoosierHoops

Oh Goddess..you are breaking the hoopster's heart..
You have inspired so many...prayed for many souls...corrected so much french.
You are really good people and I wish the best for you...

You are so dear. I know I have a purpose, and I do my best to fulfill it.

508 Griffon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:26pm

The Wizard of Washington

509 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:35pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

Another vicious rumor is Obama has a gaffe-tastic running mate. Anyone seen this person around lately?

I once heard Biden give a talk in the 1990's in Wilmington.

He warned that terrorists would attack the U.S., it was inevitable and that we better do something serious about it...

Re: "We are going to be tested if 0bama wins" ... I believe him. I really do.

510 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:43pm

re: #464 LeePro

Charles, are you still here?

This is major OT, but I sent you email and nothing happened.

The permalink on each individual comment number (not in a reply, but on original comments) read as follows (without the spaces):

http :// littlegreenfootballs .com / weblog / #

This started a few weeks ago, after your last major upgrade. I'm on Mac (10.4), with FireFox 3. Same happens on Safari. Have cleared cache, rebooted, restarted computer, etc., etc. Always shut down at night, start up fresh in the morning.

Want to refer (externally, as in another thread or via email) to certain comment(s), but cannot anymore. Can you fix this?

PLEEEEEEZE?

Just click the link, then copy the URL line.

511 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:56pm

re: #480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(that would be Garrrrr!)

You're right. Never mind. Sorry.

512 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:24:58pm

re: #507 goddessoftheclassroom

And you succeed. Even without knowing it.

Never Despair!

513 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:25:36pm

re: #512 little blessing

{little blessing}

514 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:26:03pm
515 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:26:11pm

re: #513 goddessoftheclassroom

{Goddess}
Am I not in trouble for starting a sentence with "and"?

/

516 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:27:10pm
517 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:27:20pm

There is also a rumor that Politico, The New York Times and the Washington Post are somehow involved in the practice of journalism, and that their reporters are capable of critical thinking.

Very little evidence, though.

518 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:27:35pm

re: #501 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you know that arethusa is a Wahoo ? ! :)

519 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:27:39pm

I just heard the messiah here in Missouri that we had decades of failed policy.
Would that include Carter and Clinton?

520 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:27:50pm

re: #492 arethusa

A few nights ago, you didn't have pants on, either!

TMI

521 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:27:56pm

re: #482 arethusa

All they're implying is that lower turnouts favor Republicans because supposedly they believe in their warped pea-sized minds there are more demonrats in America than Republicans. To which I say bullshit.

522 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:28:16pm

re: #517 Gearhead

There is also a rumor that Politico, The New York Times and the Washington Post are somehow involved in the practice of journalism, and that their reporters are capable of critical thinking.

Very little evidence, though.

I think actual reporting would cut into their birdcage liner and fish wrapper business

523 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:28:23pm

re: #497 Killian Bundy

/which part(s)?

Subject of the Main Post, Politico did NOT portray "Ayers and Dohrn" as an ugly rumor... to which the so-called ugly rumors pale.

I guess I missed the
/s

524 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:28:25pm

re: #431 pink freud

Wrong. O'Reilly gives Obama a pass, night after night.
"What does it benefit man, O'Reilly, to gain the whole world yet lose his mortal soul? But for Obama's money?"
525 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:28:31pm

re: #517 Gearhead

Heh... great post.

526 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:28:36pm

re: #504 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, it just claims that the conservative Heritage Foundation prefers Nobama's tax cut plan to McCains. Which is a lie.

Hmmmm... I don't remember seeing anything about Heritage Foundation mentioned in the ad, I just saw the business about pointing you to a website, and that the results you'd get out after plugging in your parameters on that website would greatly favor Obama.

And now that I WANNA watch the commercial again, to look for the details you mention... it seems to be nowhere to be found! Blimey! Just before this, I was being bombarded with it, now, it's gone! WTF?!?

527 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:28:38pm

re: #515 little blessing

{Goddess}
Am I not in trouble for starting a sentence with "and"?

/

Not in the informal dialogue of a blog. It's more like conversation--your coordinating conjunction and independent clause are understood to be a continuation of the post to which you referred, thus created in effect a compound sentence.

528 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:29:06pm

re: #485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Maybe. But, I'm fat. Still wearing my speedo from earlier, I'm very pasty white and there's gum in my hair. Still wanna come on under?

You paint such a pretty picture, FBV. Who wouldn't?
/

529 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:29:08pm

re: #488 wolfie

Oh, I think we know why he can float!

(Not that I am quite as svelte as I once was, mind you!)

He is vile! Just the sight of him makes my eyes cringe and my hair hurt.

530 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:29:15pm

re: #518 wolfie

Did you know that arethusa is a Wahoo ? ! :)

I am, I am! Are you, too, FBV?

531 Opinionated  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:29:33pm

Seriously. Are the people of the United States fucken crazy?

I just heard Obama say live on CNN:

"We are just five days away from fundamentally changing the United States".

Fundamentally changing the US? Because of some economic trouble we are going to change fundamentally the greatest country on Earth?

It's just unbelievable?

And so sad.

532 swamprat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:30:23pm

re: #527 goddessoftheclassroom


There is an evil side to you.

533 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:30:23pm

re: #507 goddessoftheclassroom

You are so dear. I know I have a purpose, and I do my best to fulfill it.


I salute you mate! I lost my purpose and reason for living several years back, I regained it, especialy 'me self confidence. An important commidity in life....

534 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:30:26pm

Addendum: the individual comment link was changed that way because it reduces the size of the comments pages, by quite a large amount. The links say '#' because it's actually handled by a Javascript function that opens a window for that comment.

Most of these design decisions are the result of tradeoffs like that. In this case, reducing the size of comments pages was more important than retaining a lengthy URL for individual comments.

535 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:30:26pm

re: #453 Pepper

O' Reilly is for O'Reilly. He states what he sees from his perspective. His ego seems to be a part of his reporting.

O'Reilly is something like 6'4" tall, I think (although he looks a lot taller when he's walking with other people.)

Immediately before the 2006 election, he did an interview with George W. Bush where they walked together and he made Bush look like a midget.

O'Reilly almost NEVER walks around with people. He sits at a desk.

I couldn't help getting the feeling that he was trying to diminish Bush.

Bush even mentioned how tall O'Reilly seemed (and Bush is almost 6 feet tall himself.)

I just got the feeling that O'Reilly meant for Bush to look small as some sort of symbolic thing.

I think O'Reilly is in all this for O'Reilly, too.

536 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:30:33pm

re: #525 Yankee Division Son

Heh... great post.

Thank you!

I aim to please, or at least not to make an ass of myself.

537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:31:13pm

re: #518 wolfie

No, I did not. Yay Arethusa! I'm from the 10% of my high school graduating class that made the top 90% possible.

538 JustMyView  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:31:34pm

re: #423 Colonel Panik

Jeebus! I'd never looked at Obama and Malcolm the Tenth side by side like that. There IS a definite resemblance. Even more so than between Obama and Davis. The ears, the forehead and hairline, the shape of the jaw...

So if Malcolm the Tenth is his dad wouldn't this make Obama Malcolm the Eleventh?

The article itself was not so convincing...the pictures make me think twice however.

This freaking election is creeping me the hell out.

You should look at the jawline of Stanley Dunham, Obama's grandfather. They look remarkably alike.

539 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:31:45pm

re: #532 swamprat

There is an evil side to you.

Sigh.

540 ClosetConservative  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:31:52pm

Our Messiah
Who Art in Chicago
Hallowed be they candidacy
Thy presidency come
Thy will be done
In bitter middle America as it is in San Francisco
Give us this day our properly inflated tires
And forgive us our hard work
As we forgive those who don't feel like working
And lead us not into prosperity
But deliver us from capitalism
For this is the chairman, the leader of the masses, the representative of the proletariat
Forever and ever (or at least 4 years)
Amen!

541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:32:09pm

re: #520 poopeedoo

TMI

TMF

542 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:32:10pm

re: #531 Opinionated

Of course he wants to fundamentally change the US. What do you think his whole shtick about the "constitution being flawed" was all about.

The Constitution is the document upon which laws of our great country is based. If he changes that, he changes the country.

That's what he really means by change!

543 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:32:31pm

re: #531 Opinionated

Fundamentally changing the US? Because of some economic trouble we are going to change fundamentally the greatest country on Earth?

"economic trouble" is an eleventh hour development, not part of the original hopey-changey mantra, and which will fade if the Proclaimed One does not get err, proclaimed yet again.

544 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:32:35pm
"We are just five days away from fundamentally changing the United States".

Wrong. It happened today.

When conservatives took their first steps on a long journey towards ending the MSM's existence as an unelected fourth branch of government. By protesting the LA Times.

The Sleeping Giant has at long last awoken.

545 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:32:53pm

re: #535 Adina in Judea

Not really enjoying this thread, with all the O'Reilly bashing. I'll check back in later.

546 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:33:02pm

re: #540 ClosetConservative

I think that is one prayer the Messiah could answer....if he gets elected...ugh!

547 looking closely  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:34:19pm

#169 Charles

FYI, on Prairie Fire, an electronic copy was offered to Hannity's producer about three days ago. They didn't take it.

On that rumor about Ayers helping Obama write his memoirs, I'm not given to conspiracy theories, but this one seems plausible, at least, even given the nutso nature of its biggest proponent. I wouldn't mind hearing a flat denial from Ayers, only he's been conspicuously absent for the last few months.

And again, there are objective analyses that can be done to compare authorships between two works. This was done to identify the author of that Clinton expose "Primary Colors" a few years back.

I'm not saying its true, but its a testable hypothesis, at least.

And yeah, I agree with you that it would be a huge loss if this site were to degenerate into something resembling the Daily Kos.

548 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:34:21pm

re: #534 Charles

Addendum: the individual comment link was changed that way because it reduces the size of the comments pages, by quite a large amount. The links say '#' because it's actually handled by a Javascript function that opens a window for that comment.

Most of these design decisions are the result of tradeoffs like that. In this case, reducing the size of comments pages was more important than retaining a lengthy URL for individual comments.

I was just about to suggest that.
/I swear, I was.

549 Bobblehead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:34:38pm

Little sign stealer gets more than he asked for.
Question..Why do parents send the kids to do their dirty work?

550 ggt[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:34:50pm
551 LoFlyer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:34:53pm

Later mates, thanks for the discussion!

552 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:35:22pm

re: #542 little blessing

What do you think his whole shtick about the "constitution being flawed" was all about.

So how does the Proclaimed One swear to uphold a Constitution he has repeatedly stated is garbage... without making false statements [in this regard it would be high-treason]

553 ljmw  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:35:26pm

I believe the McCarthy's article remains. I just read it. I will be happy to post a link if that is okay.

re: #49 Charles

554 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:35:43pm

re: #549 Bobblehead

Actually, I am imagining my favorite sound bite since Joe the Plumber.

Let me see if I can spell this right...

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!

555 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:35:55pm

re: #544 erisldysnomia

Wrong. It happened today.

When conservatives took their first steps on a long journey towards ending the MSM's existence as an unelected fourth branch of government. By protesting the LA Times.

The Sleeping Giant has at long last awoken.

Let's hope the Giant doesn't pull a 'Brian Wilson' after Tuesday.

556 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:35:58pm

re: #531 Opinionated

Seriously. Are the people of the United States fucken crazy?

I just heard Obama say live on CNN:

"We are just five days away from fundamentally changing the United States".

Fundamentally changing the US? Because of some economic trouble we are going to change fundamentally the greatest country on Earth?

It's just unbelievable?

And so sad.

I often wonder which country the utopians think the U.S. should mimic. Norway? Sweden? Where's the model we should be apeing?

557 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:00pm
558 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:01pm

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

TMF

TMF?

559 UberInfidel67  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:07pm

re: #241 Throbert McGee Sir, I just LOVE your avatar! I'm going to have to get a picture like that for my sister-in-law...I have converted her......................................she is now a republican. lol

560 hazzyday  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:30pm

katie couric on CBS last night had questions for Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain. It was a clip and cut job again. Sen. Obama was given more time, a better setting, and his image was alternated with a glowing view of Katie Couric with huge smiles every time she looked at Sen Obama.

And Obama made me miss the world series. I turned it on, he was on. I turned the TV off. I turned it back on not longer after and the series was over. They didn't even re run it.

Magazine rack at the grocery store is 7 covers of Sen Obama and 1 cover of Sen Obama and Sen McCain together. Massive manipulation of the public going on by the MSM. That has to stop regardless of the election outcome.

561 HoosierHoops  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:42pm

re: #532 swamprat

There is an evil side to you.

You forgot your /sarc tag right?
/ I'm serious..you forgot right?

562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:49pm

re: #558 poopeedoo

flab

563 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:36:55pm

re: #552 PETN Sandwich

That would be the first change.

Change the oath!

564 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:37:14pm

re: #553 ljmw

I believe the McCarthy's article remains. I just read it. I will be happy to post a link if that is okay.

Have I been unclear in some way?

565 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:37:43pm

re: #523 PETN Sandwich

Subject of the Main Post, Politico did NOT portray "Ayers and Dohrn" as an ugly rumor... to which the so-called ugly rumors pale.

I guess I missed the
/s

I'm not sensing your sarcasm polarity.

/Ayers and Dohrn put a lot of sweat and material into the violent overthrow of this country and Obama launched his political career in their living room, your turn, what doesn't America understand that is about to possibly happen?

566 Opinionated  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:37:55pm

re: #542 little blessing

Of course he wants to fundamentally change the US. What do you think his whole shtick about the "constitution being flawed" was all about.

The Constitution is the document upon which laws of our great country is based. If he changes that, he changes the country.

That's what he really means by change!

I know what he is all about. You know what he is all about.Everyone on this forum knows what he is all about.

But are our fellow citizens really that crazy? Are we about to see the suicide of the United States by the election of someone who states plainly that he plans to fundamentally change the United States- not Washington, but the United States.

I try to be optimistic but I'm really frightened at what is about to happen. Even more frightened if I discover that so many Americans are actually stupid and insane.

567 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:00pm

re: #527 goddessoftheclassroom
Goddess, I love it when you talk grammar.
Would you split an infintive for me?

568 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:09pm
569 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:11pm

re: #560 hazzyday

And yet, Obama still feels the need to saturate the airwaves with commercials AND have a 30-minute infomercial. Seems like overkill to me.

570 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:22pm

re: #562 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got it ;)

571 looking closely  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:30pm

re: #413 Iron Fist


Guns just aren't cheap any more. Not for ones you'd really want to have.


Tell me about it.
I just priced some Galils.
Ouch.
You got real ones for $2500 (if you can even find one).
Clones run $600-1000, but they're built on crappy receivers and from what I've read only have a 50-50% shot of working reliably.

572 ayatollah ghilmeini  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:31pm

re: #463 ggt

isn't it a great book?

573 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:38:55pm

re: #535 Adina in Judea

O'Reilly is something like 6'4" tall, I think (although he looks a lot taller when he's walking with other people.)

Immediately before the 2006 election, he did an interview with George W. Bush where they walked together and he made Bush look like a midget.

O'Reilly almost NEVER walks around with people. He sits at a desk.

I couldn't help getting the feeling that he was trying to diminish Bush.

Bush even mentioned how tall O'Reilly seemed (and Bush is almost 6 feet tall himself.)

I just got the feeling that O'Reilly meant for Bush to look small as some sort of symbolic thing.

I think O'Reilly is in all this for O'Reilly, too.

To tell you the truth, the FOX channel is the only place where I could keep myself sane since 1996.

They are the last ones standing..sadly they are are getting close to the dark side..all you have to look is all the people they started to bring along lately..

Take it from somebody who is very new in politics and not born and raised in USA..Just like Tito's famous quote.
"I Was Born in Colombia, But I Was Made in the USA"

[Link: neoconlatina.blogspot.com...]

574 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:39:03pm

The article is wrong on Odinga, while it is true that there is no proof other than Odinga's families word that Obama and Odinga are relatives, and although Odinga was baptized a Christian, there is no doubt he signed a memorandum to institute sharia law in Kenya. He has admitted to the same on two occasions. Odinga does maintain the memorandum circulated by former Christian Orange Party members is false, but he admitted to a less onerous version that would have accomplished almost the same thing. Obam could not possibly have known of the memorandum, but his choice of candidates shows remarkable naivete. Odinga is, was, and shall always be a corrupt thug. This is why the Christian staffers and party members quit. Further, there is every reason to believe that Obama funneled $940,000 to Odinga exactly as was reported in Kenya. Obama was not a contributor, but he arranged meetings. Such other fiqures as Dick Morris were admitted contributors, as is virtually every other entity on the list that was given to the Kenyan government. And Obama did lend his personal support to the campaign by providing picture opportunities.
This article is a white wash, giving the GOP a little by quashing legitimate questions ocharacter.

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:39:25pm

re: #571 looking closely

I've been thinking of buying a gun. Just can't "Pull the trigger".

576 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:39:35pm

re: #555 Gearhead

Let's hope the Giant doesn't pull a 'Brian Wilson' after Tuesday.

Brian Wilson: I could talk about him for hours.

But you all would kill me first. ;)

577 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:39:45pm

re: #542 little blessing


The Constitution is the document upon which laws of our great country is based. If he changes that, he changes the country.


Given what he said in that 2001 interview, how can Obama take an oath "to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States"?

It's not what he plans to do.

578 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:10pm

From a PUMA blog ... An Obama Staffer Spills the Beans ...

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

579 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:19pm

re: #567 Jim in Virginia

Goddess, I love it when you talk grammar.
Would you split an infintive for me?

Actually, splitting infinitives is one of the errors to which I'm prone and for which I must proofread vigilantly.

580 dkorta  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:27pm

re: #486 middlecon

< Obama ..... just has the same tried and true bad DNC ideas that have been rejected time and time again.>

I heard a little bit of Rush's show the other day where he was playing, I believe, an FDR clip where Roosevelt was talking about another "bill of rights" where, "everyone has a right to a nice house", or some caca like that. During the depression people were desperate for new ideas, which is where a lot of this stuff started.

Heck, even Nazism was kind of popular in this country right up until about the time we declared war on Germany.

Fortunately, about half of the country has moved beyond those times. Hopefully, substantially more than half. But a lot of the old lefties are looking for someone to fulfil all the great and glorious ideas FDR had. In fact, some of them are disappointed in Obama cause they don't think he has the stuff to see that kind of program through. I believe Nate Hentoff had a column about that some months ago (he being among the disappointed).

581 hazzyday  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:28pm

re: #561 HoosierHoops

You forgot your /sarc tag right?
/ I'm serious..you forgot right?

could be

/I was being sarcastic, unless really i wasn't

582 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:47pm

re: #560 hazzyday

katie couric on CBS last night had questions for Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain. It was a clip and cut job again. Sen. Obama was given more time, a better setting, and his image was alternated with a glowing view of Katie Couric with huge smiles every time she looked at Sen Obama.

And Obama made me miss the world series. I turned it on, he was on. I turned the TV off. I turned it back on not longer after and the series was over. They didn't even re run it.

Magazine rack at the grocery store is 7 covers of Sen Obama and 1 cover of Sen Obama and Sen McCain together. Massive manipulation of the public going on by the MSM. That has to stop regardless of the election outcome.


See my #544

583 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:52pm

re: #577 arethusa

Oaths mean little to many.

Goodnight friends. Enjoy.

584 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:40:59pm

re: #575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been thinking of buying a gun. Just can't "Pull the trigger".

for you

585 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:41:10pm
586 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:41:22pm
Why are conservatives so threatened by allowing gays the same marriage rights as heterosexuals? I just don't get it.

This is OT but I'm having a serious discussion via email (they dont blog, forgive them) with two good friends, both Jewish lawyers from very liberal (even for CA) parts of the state. I have my own moral opinion again, based on Judeo-Christian principles but am apparently unconvincing, even though I'm willing to grant civil union rights, hospital visitation, rights of estate, etc.

587 guzziguy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:42:01pm

re: #577 arethusa

Given what he said in that 2001 interview, how can Obama take an oath "to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States"?

It's not what he plans to do.

Aren't those same words used to swear in senators? I said them to become a big-city police officer years ago. I still am required to state them each year in my job as a school administrator.

588 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:42:21pm

re: #565 Killian Bundy

Sorry, beer and smoke break...

589 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:42:49pm

re: #569 arethusa

And yet, Obama still feels the need to saturate the airwaves with commercials AND have a 30-minute infomercial. Seems like overkill to me.

It's a fundamental principle of propaganda.

590 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:42:58pm

re: #553 ljmw

I told you earlier -- twice -- that if you continue with this stuff, your account would be blocked. I wasn't kidding, and I don't make idle threats.

591 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:43:22pm

re: #576 SurferDoc

Brian Wilson: I could talk about him for hours.

But you all would kill me first. ;)

The Beach Boys Brian Wilson or the Fox News guy?

592 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:43:23pm
593 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:43:43pm

re: #486 middlecon

O'Reilly always says he is 'independent' and the left laughs at that.

I know I'm in the major minority here, but I don't think Obama is a partcularly evil person, he just has the same tried and true bad DNC ideas that have been rejected time and time again.

McCain has said the same thing about Obama being 'honorable' I have no problem with it.

/Honor can be inferred by position. It is a positional reference, not necessarily a personal reference. Also, honor infers integrity. Values and norms which he may espouse may make him disagreeable to those who do not share them. He, due to recent revelations and perceived hidden agendas, appears "less than honorable". Some people measure their words more carefully, or reserve final judgement till facts warrant.

Evil is a moral issue. He may be evil but I have seen no proof of this either. Despite this view, he may, if he be a Manchurian candidate, bring about the weakening of this Nation. The confluence of events and hidden histories make the polarization much greater. Up front and in the open do not describe Obama's life story.

594 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:44:41pm

re: #578 JacksonTn

From a PUMA blog ... An Obama Staffer Spills the Beans ...

[Link: www.hillaryclintonforum.net...]

Rush read that on his show today Jackson. Great stuff.

595 HoosierHoops  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:44:42pm

re: #581 hazzyday

could be

/I was being sarcastic, unless really i wasn't

Hiya..I was talking to swamprat...
I was hoping that he/she/it was being funny with such a insulting post...
/don't call anybody here evil..but then again I'm watching the Houston game and I'm just alittle jacked up..
//I can't help myself

596 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:44:51pm

re: #576 SurferDoc

Brian Wilson: I could talk about him for hours.

But you all would kill me first. ;)

Just keep it short, pithy, and avoid any HIPAA violations, 'doc.

597 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:45:30pm

re: #587 guzziguy

Aren't those same words used to swear in senators? I said them to become a big-city police officer years ago. I still am required to state them each year in my job as a school administrator.

Yup, you're right, I didn't know that. Then I guess there won't be problems with him taking a similar oath, if that comes to pass.

598 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:46:10pm

re: #591 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The Beach Boys Brian Wilson or the Fox News guy?

Er, The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson. I thought you were referring to becoming a recluse for years.

It was a long day...

599 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:46:40pm

re: #588 PETN Sandwich

Sorry, beer and smoke break...

No, you have an impeccable LGF Warrior reputation.

/who else would use PETN as part of their nic?

600 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:46:50pm

re: #442 Outrider

Wonder why they always emphasize it was a philips-head screwdriver instead of just being stabbed with a screwdriver? Just curious.

Journalism major showing off their "technical knowledge"?

601 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:46:54pm

There is a reason they call election time the silly season.

602 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:46:59pm

re: #550 ggt

Obama does look like Stanley Dunham, both of them, the he and the she.

Is anyone seriously afraid for Obama's life if he get's elected? Do you think he's been set-up by his commie handlers. If he dies, as the result of violence, it would seal the deal for them. They need major upheaval.

I hope it's just wacky thinking on my part.

No, ggt, there is still a distinction between NOTING something and ADVOCATING that something.

603 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:47:48pm

Ok, is that "Second Obama Staffer Spills Guts (RedState)" essay legit?

604 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:48:03pm
605 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:48:03pm

re: #594 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rush read that on his show today Jackson. Great stuff.

I sure hope its true ... if the dems in my family are any indication ... it is..

606 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:48:49pm

re: #598 SurferDoc

Er, The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson. I thought you were referring to becoming a recluse for years.


A friend of mine plans to become a stylite monk if Obama wins. Stylite monks were a late antique phenomenon: built themselves columns apart from others, climbed to the top, and spent the rest of their lives on top of the column.

607 looking closely  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:48:51pm

re: #575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I've been thinking of buying a gun. Just can't "Pull the trigger".

Do it.
You won't regret it.
Just keep the thing under lock and key, and you'll never have an issue.

I swore that I was never going to buy one of those military-style "assault" rifles (having no real use for one), but with a non-negligible chance of a new Gun ban being put into place under an Obama administration, I changed my mind, and am now weighing options. (Hence my investigation into Galils. . .figured why not).

There is no guarantee of a 10 year "sunset" this time around like the Clinton gun ban.

608 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:49:28pm

re: #603 erisldysnomia

Ok, is that "Second Obama Staffer Spills Guts (RedState)" essay legit?

Probably no way to know for sure ... but it sure is nice to read it ... I know the stuff about the Hillary supporters is true ...my sister is one P*ssed off PUMA ...

609 AuldTrafford[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:49:55pm
610 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:50:03pm

re: #566 Opinionated

But are our fellow citizens really that crazy?

/no, they're pretty much that dumb and uniformed and they still get to vote

611 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:50:18pm

re: #598 SurferDoc

Er, The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson. I thought you were referring to becoming a recluse for years.

It was a long day...

I was referring to the Beach Boys' Wilson. You understood exactly what I meant.

612 hazzyday  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:50:30pm

re: #595 HoosierHoops

Hiya..I was talking to swamprat...
I was hoping that he/she/it was being funny with such a insulting post...
/don't call anybody here evil..but then again I'm watching the Houston game and I'm just alittle jacked up..
//I can't help myself

yah I wasn't following the thread close. I just saw sarcasm. And pointed out that it is hard to tell unless it is made clear. I tend to act little sarcasm doesn't exist, unless it is really really really obivous.

Probably in poor taste to call commenters evil, unless they are an identified Troll or moby.

613 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:50:32pm

re: #550 ggt

Obama does look like Stanley Dunham, both of them, the he and the she.

Is anyone seriously afraid for Obama's life if he get's elected? Do you think he's been set-up by his commie handlers. If he dies, as the result of violence, it would seal the deal for them. They need major upheaval.

I hope it's just wacky thinking on my part.

I've thought of that too. Especially now that we've learned of the Cloward-Piven (?) concept of creating major catastrophes to bring about "change." I've also wondered whether George Soros had a hand in creating the big credit meltdown just in time for the election.

I normally don't mention either of these tinfoil-hat type thoughts, but this thread seems to be a good place to do so. True, this is just my thinking "out loud." However, we do have the Reichstag Fire as a precedent for change in the 1930s. We also know how clever the KGB was during the Cold War. I like to think about all kinds of possibilities.

BTW one of my long-term reading projects has been The Fall of the Third Republic by William Shirer. It's a very long, detailed, and boring book and is taking me forever to read. I slog through it because it describes clearly how the French Republic was sold out by its very own citizens. When the foreign crisis came, the French were already destroyed.

I've also just started reading The Gulag Archipelago by Alexandr Solchenitzen (sp?). I don't think our country will come to that, but I expect to find interesting things about how people behave in a dictatorship. I've already read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, and it was enlightening.

I'd read a lot more, but I'm addicted to LGF.

614 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:51:23pm

re: #572 ayatollah ghilmeini

The whole series! I've been reading them backwards. I don't want to start the first one, I'm afraid I won't put it down until I finished it.

615 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:51:59pm

re: #606 arethusa

A friend of mine plans to become a stylite monk if Obama wins. Stylite monks were a late antique phenomenon: built themselves columns apart from others, climbed to the top, and spent the rest of their lives on top of the column.

Why was the first thought that came into my head about how do they to the bathroom?

616 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:52:02pm

Reinforcements evidently have come in for the hamsters. Well done! Just in time for election night.

617 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:52:24pm

re: #547 looking closely

#169 Charles

FYI, on Prairie Fire, an electronic copy was offered to Hannity's producer about three days ago. They didn't take it.

On that rumor about Ayers helping Obama write his memoirs, I'm not given to conspiracy theories, but this one seems plausible, at least, even given the nutso nature of its biggest proponent. I wouldn't mind hearing a flat denial from Ayers, only he's been conspicuously absent for the last few months.

And again, there are objective analyses that can be done to compare authorships between two works. This was done to identify the author of that Clinton expose "Primary Colors" a few years back.

I'm not saying its true, but its a testable hypothesis, at least.

And yeah, I agree with you that it would be a huge loss if this site were to degenerate into something resembling the Daily Kos.

I don't think it's plausible at all, not one bit. It reminds me of people who believe in numerology, who add/subtract/multiply/divide numbers in different ways, then declare, "This proves that the stock market crash was predicted by Wily E. Coyote in 1934!"

And the fact that it originates with a conspiracy theorist who believes in creationism really ought to be a huge red flag. It is to me.

618 bombay311  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:53:07pm

re: #531 Opinionated

Not crazy,
just stoopid!

619 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:53:17pm

re: #613 Promethea

I've thought of that too. Especially now that we've learned of the Cloward-Piven (?) concept of creating major catastrophes to bring about "change." I've also wondered whether George Soros had a hand in creating the big credit meltdown just in time for the election.

I normally don't mention either of these tinfoil-hat type thoughts, but this thread seems to be a good place to do so. True, this is just my thinking "out loud." However, we do have the Reichstag Fire as a precedent for change in the 1930s. We also know how clever the KGB was during the Cold War. I like to think about all kinds of possibilities.

BTW one of my long-term reading projects has been The Fall of the Third Republic by William Shirer. It's a very long, detailed, and boring book and is taking me forever to read. I slog through it because it describes clearly how the French Republic was sold out by its very own citizens. When the foreign crisis came, the French were already destroyed.

I've also just started reading The Gulag Archipelago by Alexandr Solchenitzen (sp?). I don't think our country will come to that, but I expect to find interesting things about how people behave in a dictatorship. I've already read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich, and it was enlightening.

I'd read a lot more, but I'm addicted to LGF.

I used to teach that when I taught 10th grade world lit in Virginia.

620 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:53:46pm
621 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:53:51pm

re: #550 ggt

Obama does look like Stanley Dunham.

I still think he looks like Apophis.

622 HoosierHoops  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:54:03pm

re: #612 hazzyday

yah I wasn't following the thread close. I just saw sarcasm. And pointed out that it is hard to tell unless it is made clear. I tend to act little sarcasm doesn't exist, unless it is really really really obivous.

Probably in poor taste to call commenters evil, unless they are an identified Troll or moby.

Kind regards Hazzyday

623 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:54:17pm

re: #550 ggt

re: #613 Promethea

I always thought the existence of Joe Biden on the ticket sort of was like an insurance policy against any such plots.

It's one thing to be closet socialist. It's an entirely different thing to be an out and out idiot.

The entire state of Delaware needs to be piss tested.

624 Pepper  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:54:27pm

re: #535 Adina in Judea

I do not choose to watch him as a fan. However, it is always necessary to listen critically. Understanding perspective helps with discerning fact from opinion, and that is a good rule of thumb.

I can say that I am glad he was not my teacher in his past career ;-)

625 middlecon[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:55:06pm
626 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:55:10pm

re: #615 SurferDoc

Why was the first thought that came into my head about how do they to the bathroom?

It was mine, too, when I first heard of them. I imagine that passersby tried not to walk directly under the pillar. :-P

627 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:55:42pm

Comments promoting the 'ghost writer' story will be deleted. Continuing to post such comments, after I've made it very very clear that they are not welcome here, will cause accounts to be blocked.

This is the last time I'm going to issue this warning.

628 HappyNakba  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:56:02pm

Speaking of election rumors: this one is not a rumor, it just happened to me today.

Harris County TX has been closing their "Early Voting" locations early illegally. I doublechecked the time on my cell (which syncs to military time servers) and showed it to the cop preventing people from getting in line. He, and the poll workers, didn't care that they were violating the law.

Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman and Harris County Voter Registrar Paul Bettencourt (up for reelection) don't seem to care either.

I don't care which way anyone else votes on any other election but if you see these names on your ballot, it's time to fire them for not doing their jobs.

629 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:56:18pm

re: #617 Charles

I'll hear derogatory comments when people hear that I post here, but I always tell them they are wrong about what they hear. The people here police themselves pretty much all the time--nothing verboten gets past us--and Charles is vigilant in not blogging anything he's not checked out.

This is so vastly different from any of the major lefty blogs that it's ridiculous to even bring up comparisons.

630 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:56:44pm

re: #606 arethusa

A friend of mine plans to become a stylite monk if Obama wins. Stylite monks were a late antique phenomenon: built themselves columns apart from others, climbed to the top, and spent the rest of their lives on top of the column.

A 5th column?
/

631 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:57:00pm

re: #626 arethusa

It was mine, too, when I first heard of them. I imagine that passersby tried not to walk directly under the pillar. :-P

I imagined a bucket and a rope and some poor novice hauling all the buckets.
Talk about crappy jobs.

632 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:57:04pm

re: #627 Charles

Tell the hard heads to read that one S-L-O-W-L-Y so they don't miss any words.

633 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:57:12pm

re: #617 Charles

I don't think it's plausible at all, not one bit. It reminds me of people who believe in numerology, who add/subtract/multiply/divide numbers in different ways, then declare, "This proves that the stock market crash was predicted by Wily E. Coyote in 1934!"

And the fact that it originates with a conspiracy theorist who believes in creationism really ought to be a huge red flag. It is to me.

I still believe Mearshiemer and Walt's "Jews Rule the World" tome was ghostwritten.

634 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:57:28pm

re: #606 arethusa

My mother has been telling us for a few weeks now that she is going to become a Carmelite if Obama wins. She's not joking, but then again,.....

635 notutopia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:57:34pm

re: #493 CIA Reject

In the America I grew up in People abhorred becoming dependents on the Government. It metastasized in the 60's and it's just getting worse.
And I do not want to be government employed or owned!

636 Aisha  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:57:41pm

I'm guessing Andrew Sullivan doesn't have a lot of experience with pregnancy. Still, a little research on the topic would have stopped him from looking like a twisted loon.

637 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:58:01pm
638 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:58:22pm

re: #620 taxfreekiller

Solzhenitsyn

think twice
measure twice
look in the mirror
who are you
what will you be

Solzhenitsyn
will you be he?

to vote
or
not to vote
that is the question

/easy to say sitting in Texas

639 JacksonTn  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:58:31pm

re: #625 middlecon

I think if Obama has to fear for his life it will be from the right (white supremist/Neo Nazi) rather than the left. Just my two cents.

Why do you say "right" and then white supremes and neo nazi? They are not part of the "right" as in republicans. You kid yourself if you think there are no dangerous people on the "left" ...Ayers and Dohrn are part of the "left" ... you are part of the "idiots" .....

640 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:58:40pm

For all you Tito The Builder fans.
he takes on Obama and Alan Colmes.

641 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:58:55pm

re: #633 erisldysnomia

I still believe Mearshiemer and Walt's "Jews Rule the World" tome was ghostwritten.

Oops I didn't see #627. Please forgive.

642 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:59:06pm

re: #625 middlecon

I think if Obama has to fear for his life it will be from the right (white supremist/Neo Nazi) rather than the left. Just my two cents.

There is no call for even the suggestion of a hope for violence against any of these candidates. It should not even have to be stated.

643 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:59:15pm

re: #636 Aisha

AISHA!

644 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:59:15pm

The lefty blogs are so crazy as to be disturbing.

645 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 7:59:49pm

I think the biggest problem with all of the proscribed rumors/theories is that they are pointless even if they could be proven. The MSM wouldn't touch the stories and the people who need to be reached wouldn't believe the stories or care.

646 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:00:05pm

re: #613 Promethea

...the French Republic was sold out by its very own citizens. When the foreign crisis came, the French were already destroyed.

Rome did roughly the same thing during the barbarian invasions.

I feel kind of tinfoil-y too about the economy.

647 boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:00:19pm

re: #66 Charles

This is why I'm being a hard ass about this. I'm not willing to let LGF become a right-wing Daily Kos.

Putting aside the comment section, is LGF in fact a right-wing blog, Charles? What I mean is, do you consider yourself to be right-wing?

648 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:00:43pm

re: #647 boogberg

Putting aside the comment section, is LGF in fact a right-wing blog, Charles? What I mean is, do you consider yourself to be right-wing?

No.

649 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:01:19pm

re: #613 Promethea

I've read A Day in the Life. I've read so many non-fiction memoirs of survivors of the collectvists I just get depressed about it. There is evil in the world.

Truth is we don't have to look very far. Our own history -- pre-civil Rights and the Civil War. Somehow, I think MLKjr has lost and Malcolm X has won.

650 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:01:47pm

re: #635 notutopia

In the America I grew up in People abhorred becoming dependents on the Government. It metastasized in the 60's and it's just getting worse.
And I do not want to be government employed or owned!

Amen brother!

651 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:01:50pm

re: #634 wolfie

My mother has been telling us for a few weeks now that she is going to become a Carmelite if Obama wins. She's not joking, but then again,.....

Do you mind if I ask why? Are Carmelites cloistered?

652 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:02:04pm

Charles,

I guess you and Stinky are going to have to learn to bat left handed and right handed or else y'all are going to wear out your arms swinging the stick for next week or two.

653 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:02:31pm

re: #642 JohnAdams

should not even be stated?

654 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:03:31pm

re: #636 Aisha

I'm guessing Andrew Sullivan doesn't have a lot of experience with pregnancy. Still, a little research on the topic would have stopped him from looking like a twisted loon.

Not really. Then he'd be an educated twisted loon.

655 Alouette  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:03:36pm

re: #625 middlecon

I think if Obama has to fear for his life it will be from the right (white supremist/Neo Nazi) rather than the left. Just my two cents.

White supremecist/Neo-Nazi are NOT "right wing." They are totaliarian fascists, closer to extreme leftists. They do not identify with the "right" and they do not vote for the "right." They vote for third party whack jobs like Ron Paul and Lyndon Larouche.

656 Aisha  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:03:48pm

The real story with Obama is that he is almost as politically extreme as Aisha. Marxism. Terrorists of every stripe - Godless ones and the Allah kind). Wright (well, if Senator Byrd can get away with cross-burning why not!) . Oh and some really dodgy pro-abortion votes, and a general lack of experience.

657 cblesz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:03:49pm

Did I miss this or did Ann Coulter say some Black Panther paid for Obama's Harvard education?

658 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:03:55pm

re: #642 JohnAdams

Sorry, misread your post.

I don't hope for violence against anyone. I am, extremely, concerned about it.

659 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:04:07pm

Notes the "pollsters get an up to 80% refusal to respond" result in the "Second Obama Staffer Spills Guts (RedState)" essay.

If this is true, election results will be nothing like the polls.

Can we then move to eliminate the polls completely? They make me ill.

660 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:04:40pm
661 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:04:41pm

re: #640 alien_mind

For all you Tito The Builder fans.
he takes on Obama and Alan Colmes.

Thank you alien! I was hoping to see it!

662 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:04:44pm

Supper time, BBL.

663 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:05:27pm

bbib

664 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:06:26pm
665 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:07:02pm

I've got to get some sleep. Take care.

666 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:07:10pm

1. The market rally continues through Tuesaday.

2. Republicns unleash their far superior motivated nationwide ground game.

3. The Bonkey hippies blow it off, as they're wont to do, because they think it's a done deal.

/not sure McCain can win without all three, he can't win without Florida and Ohio

667 pittrader1988  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:07:23pm

many things they don't investigate. they could have gone much much much deeper with ayers. much deeper with the palestinian prof, much deeper with rezco-daley etc.

668 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:07:23pm

bbib also. Not really, I just didn't want to feel left out.

669 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:08:11pm

Drudge

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

How about the effigy of Sarah that someone hung?

670 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:08:23pm

re: #642 JohnAdams

Happy birthday John!

October 30th 1735 - John Adams, the second President of the United States, was born in Braintree, MA. His son became the sixth President of the U.S.

671 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:08:57pm
672 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:09:15pm

re: #344 Nightlight

Is this true? Obama's desk in the Senate once belonged to Robert Kennedy?

14. His desk in the Senate once belonged to Robert Kennedy. Mr. Obama was only 6 when Mr. Kennedy, who was running for president, was assassinated in 1968.

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

Last week on "Heroes," one of the main characters is asked to take the Senate seat of a senator who died. He picks out the RFK desk. Although this character, Nathan, was possibly a bad guy in previous seasons, this year he's had some sort of vision and believes he's been chosen by God to save the world.

/I wish I were making that up.

673 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:09:17pm

re: #670 Yankee Division Son

Happy birthday John!

October 30th 1735 - John Adams, the second President of the United States, was born in Braintree, MA. His son became the sixth President of the U.S.

Yes, who can forget the Adams family?

674 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:09:46pm

re: #669 erisldysnomia

Drudge

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

How about the effigy of Sarah that someone hung?

/again, college campus versus private property

675 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:10:28pm

re: #672 doppelganglander

Last week on "Heroes," one of the main characters is asked to take the Senate seat of a senator who died. He picks out the RFK desk. Although this character, Nathan, was possibly a bad guy in previous seasons, this year he's had some sort of vision and believes he's been chosen by God to save the world.

/I wish I were making that up.

Wow, lol.

676 Peter Verkooijen  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:10:29pm
They missed one, though: the “Bill Ayers was the ghostwriter for Barack Obama’s books” rumor.

That was NOT a rumor, it was a theory. And to me, as someone who has written and edited/ghostwritten books himself, a very convincing one that fits the timeline.

Charles, don't insult people who raise legitimate questions.

677 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:10:45pm

re: #670 Yankee Division Son

Happy birthday John!

October 30th 1735 - John Adams, the second President of the United States, was born in Braintree, MA. His son became the sixth President of the U.S.

Trees are about the only thing in MA with brains. Other than MA lizards...

678 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:11:17pm

re: #674 Killian Bundy

/again, college campus versus private property

Fixed that for ya.

"College campus" says it all.

679 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:11:27pm

re: #657 cblesz

Did I miss this or did Ann Coulter say some Black Panther paid for Obama's Harvard education?

Huh?

680 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:12:05pm

re: #669 erisldysnomia

Drudge

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

How about the effigy of Sarah that someone hung?

I read they took it down.

681 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:13:43pm

re: #677 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Trees are about the only thing in MA with brains. Other than MA lizards...

So glad you clarified that remark..

682 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:14:04pm

re: #655 Alouette

White supremecist/Neo-Nazi are NOT "right wing." They are totaliarian fascists, closer to extreme leftists. They do not identify with the "right" and they do not vote for the "right." They vote for third party whack jobs like Ron Paul and Lyndon Larouche.

Oh I agree that they aren't part of the reasonable right wing...but if you draw a linear political line with anarchist/communist on the left the other end of the spectrum is totalitarian/fascists. Sure if you are talking about a circular spectrum the left and the right meet up

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...] This is a pretty reasonable graph of the political spectrum to me.

683 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:14:17pm

re: #681 Yankee Division Son

So glad you clarified that remark..

LOL, figured I better.

684 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:14:24pm

re: #651 arethusa

They are pretty much cloistered. Her favorite saints are Teresa of Avila and Therese of Lisieux, who were both Carmelites. I don't think she'll actually do it, mind you, but I think she's serious when she says she will.

685 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:14:30pm

re: #678 erisldysnomia

"College campus" says it all.

Whatever.

/you'd be amazed at what your not allowed to legally do on property you don't own

686 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:14:41pm

re: #670 Yankee Division Son

Happy birthday John!

October 30th 1735 - John Adams, the second President of the United States, was born in Braintree, MA. His son became the sixth President of the U.S.

Dang! Thanks. I had forgotten, but then again at 373 years old today my mind is not what it seemed to be.

687 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:14:44pm

re: #669 erisldysnomia

Drudge

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

How about the effigy of Sarah that someone hung?

Foxnews reported this morning that the mayor (West Hollywood?) talked the homeowner into taking it down. I'm sure the conversation went something like, "Hey, buddy, I don't like her either, but this is bringing a lot of heat neither of us wants. Could I borrow it for my Halloween party?"

688 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:15:04pm

Hi all y'all - sorry for my tardiness, but it couldn't be helped!
What all have I missed?

689 Bloodnok  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:15:11pm

re: #677 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Trees are about the only thing in MA with brains. Other than MA lizards...

phew!

690 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:15:13pm

Gun Sales Rise

Obama says, "I think people have the right to lawfully bear arms. I do believe that there is nothing inconsistent with also saying we can institute some common sense gun laws."

That is, "You may lawfully bear arms according to our laws, and not according to your rights."

691 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:16:21pm

re: #669 erisldysnomia

Drudge

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

How about the effigy of Sarah that someone hung?

One explanation given was that hate crimes are based on race, not gender.

692 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:16:21pm
693 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:16:24pm

re: #676 Peter Verkooijen

That was NOT a rumor, it was a theory. And to me, as someone who has written and edited/ghostwritten books himself, a very convincing one that fits the timeline.

Charles, don't insult people who raise legitimate questions.

There is nothing legitimate about this. It's made up out of thin air, by someone who has a history of stoking conspiracy theories. If you want to promote this "theory," it takes five minutes to start a blog at blogspot.com.

This is my blog. It's not welcome here. Continuing to complain about this is not a good idea.

694 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:16:25pm

re: #599 Killian Bundy

Ahhh, back in for the minute...

Does it really matter? It's already well established that Ayers and Dohrn are unrepentant very bad people and Obama absolutely ran in their circles. But it's equally obvious that the vast unwashed American electorate, read undecided voters, won't [expletive deleted] be educated on this important Obama alliance before Tu

esday and aren't in the [expletive deleted] least interested anyway.

Politico Lists the Worst of the Stupid Rumors

These are weak medicine compared to the under reported facts out here, such as the one(s) you mentioned. It is past time to be aired, and even if it were, the Politco list diminishes it with weak false blips.

695 cblesz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:16:27pm

re: #679 MandyManners

Huh?

Said it on Hannity and Colmes...

696 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:16:56pm

re: #684 wolfie

They are pretty much cloistered. Her favorite saints are Teresa of Avila and Therese of Lisieux, who were both Carmelites. I don't think she'll actually do it, mind you, but I think she's serious when she says she will.

Are carmelites what they put on the taffy apples of fat nuns?

697 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:17:08pm

re: #680 poopeedoo

I read they took it down.

After two weeks, without a story until the last days. No charges filed. As it should be.

698 JeremyR  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:17:30pm

re: #377 arethusa

Norm Coleman is suing Al Franken for defamation of character.

It was notable to me that when Coleman pulled his negative ads a few weeks back, Franken, who had been complaining about them, continued to run his negative ads. In fact, they got worse.

unfortunately, it may be true. Kennedy is the most corrupt, got away with murder. Alaska's Stevens is #2, Reid and the rest of the dems are tied for third place leaving Coleman and the republicans all with a fourth place ribbon to split 48 ways.

699 monkey den  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:17:35pm

re: #9 neocon hippie

OT:

What is the 1998 dinner that Hannity/Colmes is supposedly showing video of this evening?

It was Khalidi giving a speech in the mid 80s. Khalidi said that US foreign policy is very much like local politics in that it's driven by corruption. He referred to Chicago politics as an example.

What Sean was particularly exuberant over was the acquisition of an early Bill Ayers & Bernadine Dohrn book dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan, among about 100 others people who "challenge [Obama's] thinking."

700 Florida Lady  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:17:38pm

re: #666 Killian Bundy

1. The market rally continues through Tuesaday.

2. Republicns unleash their far superior motivated nationwide ground game.

3. The Bonkey hippies blow it off, as they're wont to do, because they think it's a done deal.

/not sure McCain can win without all three, he can't win without Florida and Ohio


Florida goes red. I don't think McCain has much to worry about here.

701 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:17:45pm

[Link: worldandi.com...]

This very scholarly essay from the Hoover Institute also places fascism and Nazism on the right.

702 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:00pm
Obama says, "I think people have the right to lawfully bear arms. I do believe that there is nothing inconsistent with also saying we can institute some common sense gun laws."

I better go out and get that belt-fed Nerf gun while it's still legal.

703 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:09pm

re: #693 Charles

There is nothing legitimate about this. It's made up out of thin air, by someone who has a history of stoking conspiracy theories. If you want to promote this "theory," it takes five minutes to start a blog at blogspot.com.

This is my blog. It's not welcome here. Continuing to complain about this is not a good idea.

But, but...My cheeseburger was cold! And I said no pickles!
///

704 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:25pm

re: #687 Gearhead

Foxnews reported this morning that the mayor (West Hollywood?) talked the homeowner into taking it down. I'm sure the conversation went something like, "Hey, buddy, I don't like her either, but this is bringing a lot of heat neither of us wants. Could I borrow it for my Halloween party?"

I thought it would be funny to sneak onto that guy's property, put a sign that says "Tina Fey" on the hanging figure, and "Lorne Michaels" on the burning figure in the chimney.

705 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:25pm

re: #694 PETN Sandwich

Ahhh, back in for the minute...


esday and aren't in the [expletive deleted] least interested anyway.

Politico Lists the Worst of the Stupid Rumors

These are weak medicine compared to the under reported facts out here, such as the one(s) you mentioned. It is past time to be aired, and even if it were, the Politco list diminishes it with weak false blips.

Okay, I get it.

/stay frosty

706 Racer X  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:27pm

A cabbie picks up a Nun. The Nun gets into the cab, and notices that the VERY handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her. The Nun asks him why he is staring. He replies: "I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you."

The Nun answers, My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive."

"Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me."
The Nun responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic."
The cab driver is very excited and says, Yes, I'm single and Catholic!" "OK" the nun says. "Pull into the next alley."

The nun fulfills his fantasy, with a kiss that would make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My dear child," says the nun, "why are you crying?"

"Forgive me but I've sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish."

The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party."

707 brainwizard73  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:35pm

The killer here is that if the media spent half as much time digging into Obama's past, it would be (and is) a hell of a lot jucier than any of these rumors...

...the LA Times tape that cannot be seen

...the audio of Obama explaining why a baby that survived an abortion should not get medical care (his answer: because it would mean another doctor coming into the room and that might put pressure on the woman...to something...the baby is already out...so I don't know why it would put pressure on her not to have an abortion...but that was his reasoning--I guess it had something to do with the potential of an extra doctor coming into the room...you know, relieving human misery and all that...)

...still waiting for that "I took on my party and the Chicago Machine" moment.

See what I mean folks. Fact is stranger than fiction.

708 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:48pm

re: #686 JohnAdams

Dang! Thanks. I had forgotten, but then again at 373 years old today my mind is not what it seemed to be.

Methinks your math skills are a tad rusty as well :)

709 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:18:51pm

re: #682 middlecon

Oh I agree that they aren't part of the reasonable right wing...but if you draw a linear political line with anarchist/communist on the left the other end of the spectrum is totalitarian/fascists. Sure if you are talking about a circular spectrum the left and the right meet up

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...] This is a pretty reasonable graph of the political spectrum to me.

I once read a logical piece that mentioned the major criteria for evaluating zealotry and totalitarianism was "respect for the individual." Both far left and far right lack that.

710 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:19:06pm

re: #700 Florida Lady

Florida goes red. I don't think McCain has much to worry about here.

/you keep saying that

711 jmorris42[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:19:08pm
712 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:02pm

re: #657 cblesz

Did I miss this or did Ann Coulter say some Black Panther paid for Obama's Harvard education?

Percy Sutton, Malcom X's attorney, claims that radical muslim and KSA advisor Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour paid for Obama to go to Harvard.

713 brainwizard73  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:05pm

re: #669 erisldysnomia

Drudge

2 arrested for hanging Obama effigy on Ky. campus...

How about the effigy of Sarah that someone hung?

I think some other people in that area (not the home owners) yanked it down...doesn't Drudge have a link on that?

714 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:20pm

re: #706 Racer X

A cabbie picks up a Nun. The Nun gets into the cab, and notices that the VERY handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her. The Nun asks him why he is staring. He replies: "I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you."

The Nun answers, My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive."

"Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me."
The Nun responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic."
The cab driver is very excited and says, Yes, I'm single and Catholic!" "OK" the nun says. "Pull into the next alley."

The nun fulfills his fantasy, with a kiss that would make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My dear child," says the nun, "why are you crying?"

"Forgive me but I've sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish."

The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party."

LOLOLOL!

715 Florida Lady  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:26pm

re: #710 Killian Bundy

/you keep saying that

I will, because it's true.

716 lostlakehiker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:32pm

Well, what actually happened was that Sarah Palin host-mothered Trig for her daughter. But the daughter didn't know if she had any fertile eggs, and she didn't want to go through with a pregnancy since she was planning an unplanned pregnancy soon. So she asked her mother to provide the egg, see, and she asked her father to provide the rest. (Hillbillies don't know no better, sadly.) So, you know, genetically it might look as though Gov. Palin were the mother, but not really. Besides, the National Inquisitor breathlessly reports that mitochondrial DNA tests are unable to resolvewhether Gov. Palin or her daughter was the mother.

/channeling leftbats

Gov. Palin has the courage of her convictions. She knows a lot more than the press gives her credit for. Hell, even Bush wouldn't have been able to answer that question about whether he `subscribed to the Bush doctrine.' The what?!

Batten down the hatches. It's going to be a rough four years. More, probably. As in the case of Britain, some day our Thatcher will come, and the U.S. will rise again. In the meantime, we must endure, and preserve the central institutions from which that renewal can be forged. Family, local community, pockets of integrity within the courts and the MSM, a culture of responsibility and excellence in business, [sadly, this is in some need of repair and is part of the reason Republicans are in trouble at the moment] and so on.

Culture is the DNA of a society. If Poland can endure centuries of occupation by hostile tyranny, German Empire, Russian Empire, Austrian Empire, Nazi and Soviet Evil Empires, we can endure a spell of Democrat rule. It isn't even close to the end of the world. Our technical prowess and remaining economic vitality is immense, and won't wither away instantly. We can get through this.

717 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:35pm

re: #696 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Only after they are impaled on a stick!


Good Lord, I can't believe I said that.

718 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:20:42pm

re: #690 Kreuzueber Halbmond Well I obviously don't know what the heck Obama meant by that, and Lord knows I don't trust him, but it does seem to me that we (that is, the taxpayers acting through the government) ought to require that a potential gun owner demonstrate that he/she: is a U.S. citizen, is of legal age, do a background check for criminal records and require some gun safety, handling classes. Other than the criminal records check (which would include I suppose ever having been declared [judically] mentally incompetent), we require or should require all of the others for folks to get a driver's license.
But other than the above, I don't see the government having anything to do with "gun laws"

719 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:21:13pm

re: #700 Florida Lady

Florida goes red. I don't think McCain has much to worry about here.

The shocker on Tuesday will be when they announce New Hampshire, Iowa, and Maine going to McCain.

720 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:21:38pm

re: #531 Opinionated

It's all about change! Seriously, it reminds me of Slayer's Fictional Reality. I'd quote the lyrics, but the last song I quoted got deleted.

Everything that's done today will be tomorrow's curse


That is really how the Left feels. Change, simply for the sake of change, of course, isn't really Progress. But they'll call it that.

One of the reasons Obama frightens me so much. He uses basically the same cant that Socialists have used since the Communist Revolution in 1917. There is no real substantive difference in what Obama espouses and what Stalin espoused.

And both Obama and Stalin had the narcissistic Cult of Personality bullshit going on for them. If Obama wins it and the Democrats take a filibuster-proof Senate, the United States is in for a long, troubled period. His goals are not goals that move America forward, or even holds steady. The only question is to how long and how deep the damage done to the United States is.

It could be fatal. We're still not over Jimmy Carter's disastrous four years in office. Obama is starting with the premise that America needs to be radically changed. It would be possible that he could make America into a Nation that we hardly recognize in four years.

721 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:21:58pm

re: #672 doppelganglander

Last week on "Heroes," one of the main characters is asked to take the Senate seat of a senator who died. He picks out the RFK desk. Although this character, Nathan, was possibly a bad guy in previous seasons, this year he's had some sort of vision and believes he's been chosen by God to save the world.

/I wish I were making that up.

Not to mention that the character Nathan is played by Natalie Maines' husband, Adrian Pasdar.

/gotta be a connection there for some conspiracy theorist to enjoy!

722 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:22:03pm

re: #682 middlecon

Grrr.... Wish that chart were a little bigger, it's hard to read... :-|

Here's the related article.

723 Gearhead  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:22:33pm

re: #704 gmsc

I thought it would be funny to sneak onto that guy's property, put a sign that says "Tina Fey" on the hanging figure, and "Lorne Michaels" on the burning figure in the chimney.

Heh. Poking fund at the entertainment elite - that'll get you arrested.

724 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:22:33pm

re: #717 wolfie

Only after they are impaled on a stick!


Good Lord, I can't believe I said that.

Neither can he! : )

725 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:22:45pm

re: #675 TheMatrix31

Wow, lol.

YEP!

But Nixon didn't stop there. Sen. Hugh Scott, who headed Nixon's campaign "truth squad," took to the Senate floor to denounce JFK for "plucking this project away from the U.S. government" in a "misuse of tax-exempt foundation money for blatant political purposes." Kennedy replied that this was "the most unfair, distorted and malignant attack I have heard in 14 years in politics."

When the truth finally emerged, Robinson wrote a column saying, "I don't mind admitting it—I was wrong." The airlift money came through from the Kennedy Foundation, and the students arrived. Barack Obama Sr. went to the University of Hawaii, where he met and married a young white woman from Kansas.
Their son, born the following year, arrived in the United States Senate in early 2005 and found that the antique desk he had been assigned on the Senate floor had once belonged to JFK, whose initials were carved inside. Obama learned only recently how his father's dream of studying in the United States had been fulfilled. A "young senator from Massachusetts" made an effort, Obama told the crowd at American University. "And because he did, I stand before you today."

The rest here:[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Self fulfilling prophecy indeed..

726 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:23:49pm

re: #720 Iron Fist

Obama is starting with the premise that America needs to be radically changed. It would be possible that he could make America into a Nation that we hardly recognize in four years.

An American Cultural Revolution.

727 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:24:54pm

re: #719 gmsc

The shocker on Tuesday will be when they announce New Hampshire, Iowa, and Maine going to McCain.

/that's bold, does it offset Ohio?

728 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:25:04pm

re: #676 Peter Verkooijen

No, rather insult anyone who doesn't agree with you, Peter. Sheesh, it's been posted over and over again - and by Charles numerous times - that these kinds of posts and links are not welcome here.

If you want to speculate and investigate, get your own blog or board! The rest of us would rather be here where cold, hard facts are discussed.

729 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:25:15pm

Update on the Aesop's Fable (what the hell--indulge me):

There was a farmer and his wife who discovered they had a goose that laid golden eggs. The farm prospered, employing many people, and the goose was naturally well cared for.

Soon, however, some of the employees began to resent the "special treatment" they felt the goose was getting. They began to turn the others who prospered from the farm's good fortune against the farmer and his wife.

Eventually, the insurrectionists raided the farmer's and his wife's house, tied them up, and kidnapped the goose. But the goose, now not as well cared for, stopped laying golden eggs. The insurrection decided to kill the goose and cook it. Everyone cheered. The goose smelled good as it was roasting, and eveyrone enjoyed a wonderful meal.

But when the feast was over, the goose was dead.

730 brainwizard73  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:25:31pm

re: #720 Iron Fist

Not over Carter, totally? You bet.

Now how about Obama wanting to rewind the world to 1968 and lose one (or more) wars, destroy our economy and allow all the liberal social nonsense by appointing the head of the ACLU to the high court?

I sense a trend here...liberal democrats doing what the guy did before them...again and again...

731 JeremyR  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:25:36pm

re: #706 Racer X

A cabbie picks up a Nun. The Nun gets into the cab, and notices that the VERY handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her. The Nun asks him why he is staring. He replies: "I have a question to ask you but I don't want to offend you."

The Nun answers, My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am and have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive."
I heard it was a little more then a *kiss*.
"Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me."
The Nun responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic."
The cab driver is very excited and says, Yes, I'm single and Catholic!" "OK" the nun says. "Pull into the next alley."

The nun fulfills his fantasy, with a kiss that would make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My dear child," says the nun, "why are you crying?"

"Forgive me but I've sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish."

The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party."

732 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:25:40pm

re: #672 doppelganglander

Last week on "Heroes," one of the main characters is asked to take the Senate seat of a senator who died. He picks out the RFK desk. Although this character, Nathan, was possibly a bad guy in previous seasons, this year he's had some sort of vision and believes he's been chosen by God to save the world.

/I wish I were making that up.

Look at #725 amigo..creepy.

733 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:26:02pm

Well, I have to say good night but I'll leave you with this thought: in an election year that seems to be a horrific throwback to the 1960's I firmly believe that Richard Nixon's "Silent Majority" is alive and well and I think it will deliver a surprise on election day.

Good night everybody!

734 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:26:18pm
735 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:26:51pm

re: #676 Peter Verkooijen

Nice knowing yah.

/backs away from the splatter.

736 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:27:02pm

re: #720 Iron Fist

It's all about change! Seriously, it reminds me of Slayer's Fictional Reality. I'd quote the lyrics, but the last song I quoted got deleted.


That is really how the Left feels. Change, simply for the sake of change, of course, isn't really Progress. But they'll call it that.

One of the reasons Obama frightens me so much. He uses basically the same cant that Socialists have used since the Communist Revolution in 1917. There is no real substantive difference in what Obama espouses and what Stalin espoused.

And both Obama and Stalin had the narcissistic Cult of Personality bullshit going on for them. If Obama wins it and the Democrats take a filibuster-proof Senate, the United States is in for a long, troubled period. His goals are not goals that move America forward, or even holds steady. The only question is to how long and how deep the damage done to the United States is.

It could be fatal. We're still not over Jimmy Carter's disastrous four years in office. Obama is starting with the premise that America needs to be radically changed. It would be possible that he could make America into a Nation that we hardly recognize in four years.

I figure he'd have two years at best.

Midterm elections - and the Sleeping Giant has already awoken.

737 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:27:38pm

re: #708 Yankee Division Son

Methinks your math skills are a tad rusty as well :)

Shit I worked on that too. No wonder my kid is struggling with Algebra!

738 bombay311  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:27:57pm

re: #733 CIA Reject

Well, I have to say good night but I'll leave you with this thought: in an election year that seems to be a horrific throwback to the 1960's I firmly believe that Richard Nixon's "Silent Majority" is alive and well and I think it will deliver a surprise on election day.

Good night everybody!

I hope,
or the majority may be permanantly silenced

739 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:28:22pm

re: #730 brainwizard73

I sense a trend here...liberal democrats doing what the guy did before them...again and again...

Remember what Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

740 CIA Reject  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:29:03pm

re: #738 bombay311

I hope,
or the majority may be permanantly silenced

Not in my country!

Now Good Night for real :-)

741 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:29:04pm

re: #659 erisldysnomia

You have a link to that essay?

742 notutopia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:29:20pm

re: #669 erisldysnomia

The KY. Campus is not private property. Newsworthy...
If you hang one as a halloween costume in your own backyard it's okay.

743 PETN Sandwich  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:29:36pm

re: #693 Charles

There is nothing legitimate about this. It's made up out of thin air, by someone who has a history of stoking conspiracy theories. If you want to promote this "theory," it takes five minutes to start a blog at blogspot.com.

This is my blog. It's not welcome here. Continuing to complain about this is not a good idea.


Charles,

I have not read Obama's books (disclaimer for ignorance).

Hawaii is quite remarkable for many reasons which I am sure you would agree. If you read Obama's books, does he make any reference to Hawaii which you can connect or recognize?

744 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:30:11pm

re: #628 HappyNakba

There is probably a TV station in your area that would be happy to hear what you have to say. Bring over the I-Team at quittin' time tomorrow.

745 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:30:23pm

re: #741 neocon hippie

You have a link to that essay?

which?

746 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:30:24pm

re: #736 erisldysnomia

I figure he'd have two years at best.

Midterm elections - and the Sleeping Giant has already awoken.

They could do serious, lasting damage in even a year. Six months. Depends on, for instance, how soon one of the Supremes retires and his replacement appointed.

747 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:31:31pm
748 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:31:38pm

I have no doubt that if Obama wins 2010 will look ALOT like 1994.

749 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:31:40pm

re: #545 Dark_Falcon

re: #535 Adina in Judea

Not really enjoying this thread, with all the O'Reilly bashing. I'll check back in later.

Sorry! I've liked O'Reilly for the most part all this time, but sometimes I just think he does things that seem off to me. It's rare in my experience, but I've noticed it (as others have.)

750 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:31:48pm

re: #746 NomadOfNorad

They could do serious, lasting damage in even a year. Six months. Depends on, for instance, how soon one of the Supremes retires and his replacement appointed.

Who are the SCOTUS members likely to depart by causes natural or other?

751 brainwizard73  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:32:22pm

re: #739 erisldysnomia

Remember what Einstein said about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Does that doctrine apply to the newest Nancy Pelosi pledge on bi-partisanship?

752 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:32:35pm

I have taken so many Tums (tm) that I am surely the least likely to get osteoporosis. . .

I am hoping for the best, dreading the worst. . .and while I am loving every minute of the Bill Clinton "plug" freaking priceless. . .I AM STILL STRESSING!

Forgive me my weakness. . .

753 notutopia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:32:40pm

re: #688 realwest

It's okay to be tardy. Obama got away with it alot. As long as you have a copy of the transcripts.

G' Evening..Realwest.

754 The Archivist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:33:02pm

re: #640 alien_mind

For all you Tito The Builder fans.
he takes on Obama and Alan Colmes.

Wha' happened. "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
In just a few hours it comes down? What gives?

755 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:33:33pm

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

756 Racer X  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:33:52pm

re: #754 The Archivist

Wha' happened. "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
In just a few hours it comes down? What gives?

Link still works for me.

757 OldLineTexan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:33:58pm

re: #754 The Archivist

Loaded for me about 5 seconds ago...

758 JCM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:14pm

Greetings Earthlings!

759 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:22pm

?

760 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:25pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Noooooooooooooooooooooo. Please, no.

761 Iron Fist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:34pm

re: #726 Dar ul Harb

Exactly. It wouldn't greatly surprise if they even called the Project the American Cultural Revolution.

762 bombay311  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:39pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

was it something I said?

763 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:45pm

re: #746 NomadOfNorad

One silver lining is that the Dems may keep Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House.

Incompetency, thy name is Nancy. They may not even get the nutty bills to Barry's desk much less out of conference.

764 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:47pm

re: #560 hazzyday

katie couric on CBS last night had questions for Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain. It was a clip and cut job again. Sen. Obama was given more time, a better setting, and his image was alternated with a glowing view of Katie Couric with huge smiles every time she looked at Sen Obama.

I'll never be able to look at Katie Couric again without remembering her impression of "Young Frankenstein's" Frau Blücher every time they showed her with a hideous facial expression while looking at Sarah Palin.

Katie Couric is forever hideous to me.

765 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:34:52pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Your blog your rules. . .but that would not be my preference. . ..2 cents worth

766 JCM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:35:14pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Taking a break? You deserve one, but no LGF leading up to the election, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

767 Peter Verkooijen[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:00pm
768 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:05pm

re: #751 brainwizard73

Does that doctrine apply to the newest Nancy Pelosi pledge on bi-partisanship?

Don't need any doctrine on Nancy Pelosi to determine insanity.

769 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:05pm

re: #766 JCM

Taking a break? You deserve one, but no LGF leading up to the election, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

What jcm said. . .

770 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:08pm

re: #748 middlecon

I have no doubt that if Obama wins 2010 will look ALOT like 1994.

Don't count on it.
After 40 years in power in the House, the Dems were complacent and caught by surprise in 1994.
This time they'll be on the ball......or the ACORN.

771 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:13pm

re: #750 JohnAdams

Who are the SCOTUS members likely to depart by causes natural or other?

I dunno... but I'd heard it said that at least one member of the SCOTUS was wanting to retire, but wanted to wait out the current administration under the theory that the next POTUS would be a Liberal and would therefore replace him with another good Liberal. It wasn't elaborated as to which one of the SCOTUS was the one, though, since I only heard it mentioned in passing.

772 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:19pm

re: #754 The Archivist

Wha' happened. "We're sorry, this video is no longer available."
In just a few hours it comes down? What gives?

Go to adobe.com and download the newest flash video player.

773 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:26pm

re: #753 notutopia
Good evening - yeah, I know - I figured if it was good for a few chuckles when Obama said it so often, I might as well take it from him - Lord knows if he wins with a Dem super majority in Congress, he's gonna be taking enough away from me!

774 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:42pm

re: #755 Charles

With a sign saying "Fairness Doctrine Test in Progress"?

775 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:50pm

re: #763 unclassifiable

One silver lining is that the Dems may keep Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House.

Incompetency, thy name is Nancy. They may not even get the nutty bills to Barry's desk much less out of conference.

As much as I hate crazy Cindy wouldn't it be something if she could knock off Pelosi? I have no idea if the polls are close and probably doubt it but that would be priceless.

776 mich-again  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:51pm

I had a discussion with a Obama supporter this evening. He ran with a line that when Obama graduated from Harvard with his law degree he could have made millions as an attorney, but he went back to his hometown of Chicago to help poor people.

I was like. What? Where'd you get that story? He never lived in Chicago until after he got his undergrad degree from Columbia and after he spent a year in the corporate world trying to make some big money and he didn't go to law school until a few years after he worked as a "community organizer" in Chicago.

Dude was flabbergasted. I bet you $100! I was like. I don't want your money. Just go home and research it yourself.

777 Charles  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:36:58pm

re: #766 JCM

Taking a break? You deserve one, but no LGF leading up to the election, noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

778 OldLineTexan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:37:01pm

The only American Cultural Revolution I am interested in is FBV buying a quality firearm and telling me all about it...

/BTW, buy one of the scary ones!
//Just think, "Which one would Dianne Feinstein most loathe?"

779 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:37:09pm

re: #755 Charles

*Deep breath* Oh great lizard we beseech you to reconsider.

/we've been trying our best to fight the trolls, mobies, and eeyores.

780 alien_mind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:37:26pm

re: #754 The Archivist
the video still works for me.

781 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:04pm

re: #648 Charles

Where would you place yourself on the political graph? I took one of those online "tests" and I'm slightly left of center.

782 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:06pm

re: #767 Peter Verkooijen

There's no difference between questioning whether Ayers could have "helped" Obama write his books and questioning whether they have met in New York in the early 1980s.

Except that the blog owner said not to because it irritates him.

The concept of "ownership" is one of the key issues in this race, no?

783 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:08pm

re: #779 BlueCanuck

*Deep breath* Oh great lizard we beseech you to reconsider.

/we've been trying our best to fight the trolls, mobies, and eeyores.

I renounce my eeyore ways. . .

784 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:26pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Gotta be very tiresome monitoring a space you are proud of to keep its integrity. I hope posters here will respect their host yes, but especially themselves and the rules of civil engagement. LGF is special because it willfully stays out of the murk.

785 Dasher[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:32pm
786 middlecon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:44pm

re: #770 wolfie

Don't count on it.
After 40 years in power in the House, the Dems were complacent and caught by surprise in 1994.
This time they'll be on the ball......or the ACORN.


The nation is still pretty much split dead even politically, McCain is only a few points behind in one of the worst years for Republicans ever.

A little momentum and the Republicans can make big gains, its the way politics works a big pendulum.

787 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:45pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Hohhhlllleeee cowww....

Surely things can't be THAT bad... can it?

788 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:46pm

re: #732 El Lizardo mejicano

Look at #725 amigo..creepy.

Damn. I did know about the Kennedy connection to the Kenyan student deal. I wonder whose ass you have to kiss to get such an historic piece of furniture. I guess the only good news is, the next owner will find it's been barely used.

789 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:54pm

re: #51 Killian Bundy

Um, so, whas it a crash or an engine start? No it was an errant rocket firing from another plane behind McCain's.

/USS Forrestal Mishap July 29, 1967

Another variant I heard (on a tech forum that leans 70% Dem) was that McPain triggered it "with his afterburner". One problem - the A-4 doesn't have afterburner. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story, eh!

I found a website which made the "McCain was a sucky pilot who wrecked five planes" claim when I was searching for images of his A-4. The website was really trashy, just piss-poor design, and looked like it was written by somebody who didn't speak English. I honestly wondered if they had started outsourcing campaign lies like they outsource tech support.

790 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:38:55pm

Whoah.

791 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:39:01pm

re: #755 Charles Uh, Charles why are you considering doing that? And is the rest of the week through Sunday or do you mean through election day?

792 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:39:39pm

re: #781 Boogberg

Where would you place yourself on the political graph? I took one of those online "tests" and I'm slightly left of center.

slightly left of center here too, and smack middle between authoritarianism and libertarianism.

793 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:39:48pm

re: #783 DisturbedEma

Hmmm, don't recall you being an eeyore. Then again I usually help pick up the slack on the night shift.

/day off today so too bed earlier than usual.
//I will be late, so no fruitcup for me. ;)

794 OldLineTexan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:39:53pm

re: #785 Dasher

It would make the server more responsive.

I can already not post at lightning speed.

/I said can, not would

795 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:39:58pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.


Is this because of bandwidth and the changeover or due to posting problems?

796 JCM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:40:13pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

Completely understandable, this election has to have the highest rate of irrationality of any I can remember.

Levin today, it's to late for the "killer story" it's time to get out the vote, get your family and friends out and VOTE!

797 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:40:14pm

I tried to post this shameless spin-off plug, but I think it got lost during the onslaught of the past couple of days.

For the gun nuts and not so nuts who might be wondering how Utopia gun-free Britain kept getting those low crime figures.

798 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:40:17pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Please don't, Charles. Don't give these idiots the attention they're obviously so wanting, and don't deprive the vast majority of us who truly crave and actually need the LGF community during this stressful election season!

Please don't let the few bad apples spoil it for the rest of us, I humbly ask.

We'll ramp up the take downs of the idiots who post stupid stuff, and we'll promise to use the report button more often.

There are more with us than there are those who are against us. And when I say "us", I mean the average, everyday, sane LGF poster.

799 Dasher[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:40:25pm
800 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:40:31pm

What's an eeyeore?

801 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:41:02pm

re: #793 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, don't recall you being an eeyore. Then again I usually help pick up the slack on the night shift.

/day off today so too bed earlier than usual.
//I will be late, so no fruitcup for me. ;)

I have been more of a nervous nelly. . .

802 The Archivist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:41:04pm

re: #701 Moe Katz

[Link: worldandi.com...]

This very scholarly essay from the Hoover Institute also places fascism and Nazism on the right.

Fascism and Nazism are socialistic, therefore totalitarian, therefore blood-brothers (or cousins, if you prefer) with communism and all other forms of Marxism.
The only way "scholars" get by with labeling Fascism & Nazism as right-wing is that Nazism was anti-communistic. And that was because each side recognized the other as ruthless, godless and void of all morals in seeking the same goals. Hence they were mortal enemies. Each saw the other as capable of what they thought it would take to reach their goals.

803 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:41:12pm

re: #755 Charles

Just so everyone is aware, and no one is surprised if it happens: I'm seriously considering shutting down comments at LGF for the rest of the week.

Why not just put a limit on # of comments per poster per thread. Or something like that.

I think a lot of good links get posted here that are useful to know about.

804 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:41:30pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

I wouldn't think it'd take a whole WEEK for them to get the point, though... would it?

805 Griffon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:41:45pm

Twas the night 'fore election
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!

I, in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.

When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys

They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!

He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink

He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!

On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi'
He screamed at the pairs!

They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn't stand up and fight!

So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!

Author Unknown

806 Thanos  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:41:50pm

re: #707 brainwizard73

Obama's Greatest hits

807 indythinker[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:04pm
808 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:11pm

re: #648 Charles

Heh.

809 brainwizard73  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:30pm

re: #768 erisldysnomia

Don't need any doctrine on Nancy Pelosi to determine insanity.

[with apologies to the great Curtis and Elton and a little guy named Edmund Blackadder]

Nancy Pelosi is the most overrated individual since Judas Iscariot won the A.D. 31 "Best Disciple" competition.

And when you consider her company...Reid...Obama...Frank...Murtha...

breathtaking...

kind of like her lack of fashion sense in Syrian headscarves.

810 LEGION  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:31pm

re: #725 El Lizardo mejicano

re: #725 El Lizardo mejicano

YEP!

But Nixon didn't stop there. Sen. Hugh Scott, who headed Nixon's campaign "truth squad," took to the Senate floor to denounce JFK for "plucking this project away from the U.S. government" in a "misuse of tax-exempt foundation money for blatant political purposes." Kennedy replied that this was "the most unfair, distorted and malignant attack I have heard in 14 years in politics."

When the truth finally emerged, Robinson wrote a column saying, "I don't mind admitting it—I was wrong." The airlift money came through from the Kennedy Foundation, and the students arrived. Barack Obama Sr. went to the University of Hawaii, where he met and married a young white woman from Kansas.
Their son, born the following year, arrived in the United States Senate in early 2005 and found that the antique desk he had been assigned on the Senate floor had once belonged to JFK, whose initials were carved inside. Obama learned only recently how his father's dream of studying in the United States had been fulfilled. A "young senator from Massachusetts" made an effort, Obama told the crowd at American University. "And because he did, I stand before you today."

The rest here:[Link: www.newsweek.com...]

Self fulfilling prophecy indeed..

Nope- the truth came out- BO's father came the year BEFORE the kennedy's started financing students to come to the USA to take seats away from our students. So no link. He aint no Jack Kennedy.

811 Dasher[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:45pm
812 The Archivist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:52pm

re: #772 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #772 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Go to adobe.com and download the newest flash video player.

But I do that every month. Again?

813 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:42:59pm

Uhhhh, the point of the article is the rumours are stupid.

814 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:05pm

re: #783 DisturbedEma

I renounce my eeyore ways. . .

That don't help Ema if you're not an eeyore! And you're not an eeyore! You're a stalwart.

815 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:07pm

re: #789 Pawn of the Oppressor

Another variant I heard (on a tech forum that leans 70% Dem) was that McPain triggered it "with his afterburner". One problem - the A-4 doesn't have afterburner. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story, eh!

I found a website which made the "McCain was a sucky pilot who wrecked five planes" claim when I was searching for images of his A-4. The website was really trashy, just piss-poor design, and looked like it was written by somebody who didn't speak English. I honestly wondered if they had started outsourcing campaign lies like they outsource tech support.


Every US Navy recruit watches the video about the fire on the FORESTALL, it is clear that the fire was caused by ordinance from another aircraft.
Good lord, how do these rumors get started?

816 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:23pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

Conspiracy theories I understand.

But bullshit? This is a politically oriented blog is it not? I mean politics and bullshit are practically joined at the hip sort of speak.

817 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:33pm

BTW, Some one asked me to repost this link when there was more traffic. It is pure fiction, a set up to an RPG game. But it does seem to have some parallels to our fears. Once again this is pure fiction.

818 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:34pm

This is another shamelss spin-off plug, but it's short, so I'll post the whole thing. I've been reminded of these thoughts a lot the past few weeks:

"C. S. P. Schofield said...
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by stupidity.

It isn't that the MSM gets together and CONSPIRES to avoid images of 9/11/2001, or the bestial behavior of radical muslims around the world. It's that they cannot grasp it. It doesn't fit anywhere in their world; a world where Socialism works and they - the anointed - are divinely chosen by Providence to guide those who are less enlightened (that's us).

They reacted the same way to the news from the killing fields. To the revelation that Stalin was a monster whose body count dwarfed Hitler's. They cannot deal with the information that so contradicts their world-view, so they blank it out of their minds and unconsciously try to blank it out of the world.

They lack the intelligence to handle world as complicated as the real one - hence the way they fall for Marxism, a belief totally unsuited to the complex modern world - and they lack the moral strength to face the consequences of their past behavior. The mass graves. The misery. Acknowledging these would break them, which is why the become so hysterical when confronted.

They are pathetic intellectual dwarfs and moral lightweights. The proper response to them is not anger but impatient contempt. Certainly they must not be allowed to run the country."


They are from the comments section of Law Dogs blog--via Smallest Minority. For exact reference see shameless plug link

819 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:37pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

Obviously you're getting pissed off, but shutting everyone down when maybe 1 out of every 500 comments are bullshit conspiracy theories? Just block them on the spot as you have threatened to do, and let them beg for mercy.

820 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:42pm

re: #786 middlecon

The presidency and the House are two different things.
FORTY years of Democrat control of the House, despite 2 terms for Nixon and 2 for Reagan.
All I'm saying is don't count on another 1994.

821 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:44pm

807 needs to be down dinged!

822 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:46pm

re: #716 lostlakehiker

Culture is the DNA of a society. If Poland can endure centuries of occupation by hostile tyranny, German Empire, Russian Empire, Austrian Empire, Nazi and Soviet Evil Empires, we can endure a spell of Democrat rule. It isn't even close to the end of the world. Our technical prowess and remaining economic vitality is immense, and won't wither away instantly. We can get through this.

Funny, I was just listening to Dobrowski's Mazurka the other day...

Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła,
Kiedy my żyjemy.
Co nam obca przemoc wzięła,
Szablą odbierzemy.

Poland has not perished yet
So long as we still live
That which alien force has seized
We at sabrepoint shall retrieve.

823 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:43:55pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

Where would I come to celebrate if there was a LA Timesgate and Obama was shrieking antisemitic garbage out of his a** on stage during that terrorist reunion for Khalidi, forcing Obama to concede the Jewish vote, and every other sane person who hadn't drunk the kool-aid for early voting for the One?

824 Dasher[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:44:22pm
825 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:44:24pm

re: #791 realwest

Hey rw! How ya' doin' tonite?

826 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:44:30pm

re: #777 Charles

I have never thought it "easy" for posters to abuse your site, because Stinky's clue bat seems lightning quick, which is really a credit to the way you run your site.

I think shutting down comments would be a mistake, because It would be a great opportunity to separate the wheat from the chafe, but it is your site and thus your choice.

/just my 2 cents

827 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:44:36pm

Charles,

You've listed 4 or so topics that are absolutely verboten. Why not ask a couple of the regulars to monitor for the next week or so and give a you helping hand? I'm sure lizards would be only too happy to help.

It would be really, really upsetting to thousands of lizards if they couldn't commune during one of the most important elections in their lifetime.

So, whatever we can do to help - please consider the offer.

Thanks.

828 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:44:40pm

re: #777 Charles

I think shutting LGF down for that reason would give ammo to the opposition. Anytime they want to shut hus down they will just bombard the site with crap.

I submit, it is better for us to be vigilant in policing the site- Than to silence the voices of the night.

829 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:05pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

I can understand why you feel that way, but I hope it doesn't come to that.

I would encourage everyone to use that little ! button to the right of your upding/downding and favorites. You can indicate whether you want to report or recommend the post. Charles can't be everywhere at once, and I think it's up to us to police ourselves.

830 MandyManners  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:13pm

re: #800 Jimmah

What's an eeyeore?

Winnie-the-Pooh's donkey friend who is incredibly pessimistic.

831 JCM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:14pm

re: #789 Pawn of the Oppressor

Another variant I heard (on a tech forum that leans 70% Dem) was that McPain triggered it "with his afterburner". One problem - the A-4 doesn't have afterburner. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story, eh!

I found a website which made the "McCain was a sucky pilot who wrecked five planes" claim when I was searching for images of his A-4. The website was really trashy, just piss-poor design, and looked like it was written by somebody who didn't speak English. I honestly wondered if they had started outsourcing campaign lies like they outsource tech support.

The Forestall Incident was throughly investigated. I can bore you with excruciating details on the series of events, human errors, poor practices, electrical circuits involved that lead to the accidental launch of a Zuni missile off a F-4 into McCains plane. Then how the war had depleted the modern munitions stockpiles and they'd put WWII bombs on the planes which cooked off in the fire minutes before modern munitions would have.

It's the same type of idiocy that lead to the Bush Memos and his whole TANG controversy.

832 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:18pm

re: #792 erisldysnomia

Yeah, that's the one. :D

833 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:25pm

re: #807 indythinker

No citizenship posts.

834 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:35pm

re: #803 erisldysnomia

Why not just put a limit on # of comments per poster per thread. Or something like that.

I think a lot of good links get posted here that are useful to know about.

Bad idea.

835 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:36pm

Charles, you gonna have those turbo hamsters up and running by election night? I can't imagine going thru it without the Lizards.

Didn't you say a while back that the next upgrade would cost you more than your house? Have you found a more affordable way?

836 arethusa  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:37pm

re: #798 Intrepid

Please don't, Charles. Don't give these idiots the attention they're obviously so wanting, and don't deprive the vast majority of us who truly crave and actually need the LGF community during this stressful election season!

Please don't let the few bad apples spoil it for the rest of us, I humbly ask.

We'll ramp up the take downs of the idiots who post stupid stuff, and we'll promise to use the report button more often.

There are more with us than there are those who are against us. And when I say "us", I mean the average, everyday, sane LGF poster.

I second that. We can police ourselves better. And I think a lot of lizards would really miss the site between now and Election Day.

837 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:42pm

re: #811 Dasher

Charles: Maybe you need a moderator, besides your self to take the load off.

Seconded!

838 brainwizard73  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:42pm

re: #798 Intrepid

Yes, sir.

There would be some logic to going uber-moby on this site to goad the master of the universe into calling for a moritorium on discourse.

Don't...or the terrorists win.

839 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:45:58pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.

Well, it would certainly be understandable.

Very sorry that this has been going on.

840 Racer X  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:46:13pm

re: #777 Charles

No, I'm not taking a break. I'm disgusted by the fact that people continue to post conspiracy theories and bullshit, despite numerous pleas, warnings, and bannings.

Maybe if it stops being so easy for them to abuse my site, people will think twice about doing it.


I understand completely.

re: #807 indythinker

841 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:46:22pm

re: #801 DisturbedEma

I have been more of a nervous nelly. . .

Nervous Nelly is acceptable. You fear the worst but keep plugging along. Eeyores have just plum given up, and bemoan the fact that nothing we do now will change the outcome. Think Winnie the Pooh.

/a most lovable bear.
//oh bother

842 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:46:55pm

re: #777 Charles Charles, you know I have the utmost respect for you. And, of course, it's your blog and if you decide to shut down the comments section, it's totally your decision.
But I would appeal to your sense of fair play: iirc, we have well over 20,000 registered lizards and on any particular day, perhaps 500 of them make comments and of those I'd guess that less than 10 post those stupid and inane comments which you have preached about for so long. Shutting down all comments because of a few commenter's' idiocy is, I think unfair: just delete those stupid commenter's, please don't punish the rest of us.

843 Dasher[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:46:58pm
844 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:47:00pm

re: #807 indythinker

Obama is a cipher.

By his own doing, Obama is murky, but NOT a complete cipher, Thinker.

The dynamic force of example does NOT shine through him, nor is forthrightness or honesty particularly apparent, 2 books notwithstanding!

845 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:47:00pm

One more thing Charles.

If you shut down the blog because of people posting idiotic rumors than you have basically told everyone (lurking Kosholes included) how to shut down this blog.

/just a thought and I understand your anger

846 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:47:33pm

re: #841 BlueCanuck
For all the Nervous Nellies out there:

I just finished talking to my Mom in CO. During the conversation she answered the door.

"What are you selling?"

"I'm not selling anything! I just wanted to know who you are voting for?"

"Who are you?"

"I'm from the Environmental..." (couldn't make out what he said)

"Are you voting for _________ or ______________ (local election. She responded)

"Are you voting for Obama or McCain?"

"I'm voting for McCain not Obama and I've already sent in my ballot! Have a good night!"


You should have heard the PRIDE in her voice!

/and to think that this was my green immigrant mother who I was so embarrassed of as a teenager!

847 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:00pm

re: #800 Jimmah

An Eeyore (named after the donkey in Winnie the Pooh) is someone who is gloomy and pessimistic, always throwing cold water on others.
At this stage in the election we need to keep our fighting spirit up and encourage each other to vote and work for the ticket. To be an Eeyore right now is to assure a loss.

848 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:05pm

re: #117 SteveC

LoFlyer, I think we've seen the same video. McCain skedaddled just in the nick of time.

It's on his campaign website somewhere.

I'm surprised nobody on the left has criticised him for running away from the flames and explosions, instead of into them, like a True American Hero.

/

849 JohnAdams  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:10pm

re: #824 Dasher

She is not overrated here. I hold her in the lowest of esteem.

Don't sell yourself short, Madam Speaker. You're a tremendous slouch.

850 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:19pm

re: #841 BlueCanuck

Nervous Nelly is acceptable. You fear the worst but keep plugging along. Eeyores have just plum given up, and bemoan the fact that nothing we do now will change the outcome. Think Winnie the Pooh.

/a most lovable bear.
//oh bother


I am worried, I do not know how I will get through this without my Lizards. . .sorry for the guilt trip Charles. . .but I need you guys so much. . .I am in moonbat code pink hell every day!

851 spynverzyon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:20pm

For the Lefties, it's not "rumors" or "bashing" to spread phony accusations and loft gratuitous insults toward Palin. In their view, it's just everyday conversation that anyone sophisticated enough to grasp the "fake but accurate" concept would agree with. Case in point: what they're teaching in Constitutional law classes at Yale.

852 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:43pm

Some of you, not from Illinois, don't know the full story behind the rise to the US senate for BHO. I was a campaign volunteer for the guy who was supposed to be taking that senate seat, Jack Ryan. If the rumors and innuendos didn't force him to release his divorce records from Jerry Ryan (major hottie by the way!), BHO would be sitting in the Illinois senate, squabbling over who could tax us the most with rest of the one party rule demonRats here in Illinois.

853 JCM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:56pm

re: #842 realwest

Charles, you know I have the utmost respect for you. And, of course, it's your blog and if you decide to shut down the comments section, it's totally your decision.
But I would appeal to your sense of fair play: iirc, we have well over 20,000 registered lizards and on any particular day, perhaps 500 of them make comments and of those I'd guess that less than 10 post those stupid and inane comments which you have preached about for so long. Shutting down all comments because of a few commenter's' idiocy is, I think unfair: just delete those stupid commenter's, please don't punish the rest of us.

Admit it. Your having delirium tremors at the thought of no LGF...... just like me.

854 erisldysnomia  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:48:57pm

re: #831 JCM

It's the same type of idiocy that lead to the Bush Memos and his whole TANG controversy.

I think the Rathergate episode was truly a SPECIAL form of idiocy, plus the useless media spin that followed for weeks ad weeks afterward about 'special typewriters' and such.

855 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 8:49:46pm

re: #802 The Archivist

I thought we learned from Johah Goldberg that nazism/fascism ISN'T different from communism. Stalin hated Hitlar so much that when Germany fell, he wanted to distance himself/Russia from nasizm that he directed the propaganda machine to create the illusion of difference. They are both collectivst theories based on socialism.

Currently, the LLL is doing the same. They are trying to paint the right-wing as fasicts so their version of socialism will seem they only alternative.