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Open | Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:24:39 pm PDT

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1 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:24:56pm

Thanks

2 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:25:39pm

good evening to all?

3 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:25:40pm

You've got the power lone_wolf!

4 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:25:41pm

Now I can retire to the comfort of Mrs.Wolf's arms...

Good night everyone!

5 jaunte  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:11pm

Ah, a freshly pressed new green suit.

6 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:17pm

Who wants ice cream?

7 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:26pm

So everyone has my avatar now? I'm such a trend-setter!

/

8 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:28pm

re: #4 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Now I can retire to the comfort of Mrs.Wolf's arms...

Good night everyone!

Happiness is a warm wife.

9 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:37pm

Whew, for a moment there I thought I was logged off again. Thanks for the great community Charles.

/sleep well and weet dreams of bicycle rides.

10 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:53pm

A little music for the thread.

11 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:59pm

re: #8 Moe Katz

Happiness is a warm wife.

. . . carrying a cold beer.

12 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:19pm

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

13 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:23pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

. . . carrying a cold beer.

Yes, even better.

14 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:48pm

re: #4 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Now I can retire to the comfort of Mrs.Wolf's arms...

Good night everyone!

Oh, thanks for that bit of info.

15 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:51pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

Where are the ladies?

/or is this a men's thread ; )

16 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:55pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Who wants ice cream?

Oh! Crap!

17 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:15pm

^^^^ is a lady.

18 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:35pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Who wants ice cream?

Too late for me. I don't have to go to bed just yet, but I can't afford sugar right now.

19 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:50pm

Woot. The Navy is going to name a destroyer after Michael Monsoor, the SEAL who threw himself on the grenade to save others.

20 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:51pm

re: #16 jcm

Oh! Crap!

Ha!

21 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:55pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Who wants ice cream?

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

22 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:05pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Scariest bit is that the tests have come back positive!

23 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:21pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Poopsicles.

24 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:44pm

re: #12 rawmuse

Always Look on the Bright Side of Life

25 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:58pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Reminds me of the Full Metal Jacket quote: "It's a huge shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite."

26 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:05pm

re: #23 Moe Katz

Poopsicles.

Tastes like Fairness!

Now eat it, or shut the f-ck up, you racist!

27 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:28pm

Gracias Charles!

28 StudSupreme  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:37pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

A Scoop of Poop, to wax 'poetic' about it....................

29 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:39pm

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

30 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:49pm

re: #26 Pawn of the Oppressor

Tastes like Fairness!

Now eat it, or shut the f-ck up, you racist!

Everyone screams for that ice cream!

31 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:55pm

re: #26 Pawn of the Oppressor

Tastes like Fairness!

Now eat it, or shut the f-ck up, you racist!

Wash it down with a shot of Crème de Caca.

32 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:04pm

Reposted from the previous thread...I posted it as soon as this new thread got posted....

Maybe there could be a splash page on the front of LGF showing what's allowed and what's not allowed, and in order to bypass the screen, you have to do one of those keyword jumble things?

33 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:16pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

We need to talk to the chef....first a crap sandwich and now Shit Ice Cream....

34 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:24pm

On Hannity and Colmes, I just saw a video of Khalidi condemning the evils of CHICAGO and ILLINOIS corrupt politics. Anyone else catch that?
Anyone know of a link to same video?

/back to paying bills..........

35 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:27pm

I thought we were leaving the sh*t down thread!

36 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:32:16pm

re: #25 Wyatt Earp

Reminds me of the Full Metal Jacket quote: "It's a huge shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite."

I would pay real money to see Obama put through USMC boot camp. Communicating with less than twenty words? Nobody around with a law degree or leftist street cred? No nuance? Lots of yelling and insults? DIs tearing him to bits?

Real. Money. I'd pay it. I'd give Obama back his tax credit just to see that happen. I would laugh my stupid head off.

37 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:32:49pm

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

38 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:33:31pm

re: #32 TheMatrix31

It should be common sense. The fact that it isn't indicates a serious problem.

39 Griffon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:34:37pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

Boring and depressing.

40 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:35:04pm

re: #32 TheMatrix31

Reposted from the previous thread...I posted it as soon as this new thread got posted....

Maybe there could be a splash page on the front of LGF showing what's allowed and what's not allowed, and in order to bypass the screen, you have to do one of those keyword jumble things?

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

41 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:35:09pm

I'm an election worker. While looking through my "roster of voters" earlier today I didn't see any new voters. ACORN probably figured the dems had Los Angeles County in the bag.

42 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:35:23pm

Seven Spanish Angels

43 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:16pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

Thanks for the information. I just donated!

44 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:43pm

re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm an election worker. While looking through my "roster of voters" earlier today I didn't see any new voters. ACORN probably figured the dems had Los Angeles County in the bag.

Is there a big ACORN presence in LA?

45 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:52pm

re: #40 El Lizardo mejicano

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

I think the most trusted members mostly have lives.

46 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:56pm

re: #40 El Lizardo mejicano

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

Maybe we can have a National Civilian Defense Force ;)

47 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:11pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

I did. The Communist Manifesto writ in modern terms, the same victimology and same solutions. The revolution of the ballot box and not the bullet.

Our toleration of historical and political ignorance has brought us here.

48 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:11pm

re: #39 Griffon

That is what I heard......not quite the towering pillar of happiness he was in the primaries.....

49 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:29pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Nice.

50 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:47pm

re: #43 US Navy Wife

Thanks for the information. I just donated!

Wow - that was quick!

51 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:24pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

to be honest, DD, i turned it on...but within 2 mins or less i was nauseated. Had to shut er down.
Blecch...

52 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:25pm

re: #50 legalpad

It doesn't take long when you're a fast typist, and have memorized your credit card number. I didn't even have to get up.

53 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:37pm

re: #47 jcm

Hey JCM!

Hi and what did His Highness have to say about the new civilian force he wants to form? The notion of which, BTW, I find very scary.

54 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:38pm

And for all those out there you really want to know how you are voting.

/hint pollsters. :)

55 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:48pm

re: #12 rawmuse

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

Let's repeat the non-conformist's oath:

"I promise to be different!
I promise to be unique!
I promise not to repeat things other people say!"

Good!

56 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:30pm

How about those Phillies?

57 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:33pm

"Free Stuff.....get your free stuff here.....step right up, sonny....get your free stuff here...."

I think that is all many Obama supporters hear, and that is good enough for them.

58 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:39pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Seven Spanish Angels

Most Excellent Choice!

59 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:52pm

re: #40 El Lizardo mejicano

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

I think there are five to six Monitor Lizards wandering around. Believe me, they do wield a mean stick.

/learned at the knee of Stinky Beaumont.

60 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:54pm

re: #44 Irene NYC

They mostly seem to be forcing cities into doing something with regard to housing, etc., but in past years I've seen a lot of kooks out in front of stores trying to make folks register, even if they had already done so. Can't say for sure they were really from Acorn but probably something similar.

61 Teacake!  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:27pm

All I can say is thank goodness arafat isn't a topic of discussion any more.

nite all!

62 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:33pm

Heh. Obama in boot camp.

"And what the fuck is your name, skinny?"
"Obama, sir!"
"And what do you do, mister ZERO-Bama?"
"I was a community organizer, sir!"
"Community organizer! Well I love organizers. I need things organized. But I don't think a beanpole pile of Chicago trash like you can organize anything! Can you, mister Obama?"
"Sir no sir!"
"No sir? What the fuck kind of answer is that? Are you not CONFIDENT, Private Obama?"
"Sir, I was trying to understand what Sir meant by-"
"Understand what I meant? ARE YOU SOME KIND OF FUCKING LAWYER, PRIVATE ZEROBAMA?"
"Sir, actually yes I am, sir!"
"A FUCKING LAWYER! WHO ORGANIZES things! Amazing! Well Mister sack of shit Lawer Organizer, you are now in charge of organizing latrine detail!"
"SIR YES SIR!"

63 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:39pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Very interesting to watch Willie sing backup for Ray. Willie can ride the beat if he has to.

64 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:49pm

re: #46 TheMatrix31

LOL We'll wear green shirts.

65 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:50pm

re: #12 rawmuse

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

Unless Nobama wins. WHICH HE WILL NOT!

66 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:59pm

re: #56 outsidephilly

Congrats to the Phillies....the City of Brotherly Love was due

67 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:11pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

They should have paired that with this video

68 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:25pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

Just made a donation. My second donation this year.

McCain/Palin 08

69 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:31pm

re: #66 Desert Dog

Congrats to the Phillies....the City of Brotherly Love was due

It was a fun game to watch, too!

70 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:34pm

re: #53 Irene NYC

Hey JCM!

Hi and what did His Highness have to say about the new civilian force he wants to form? The notion of which, BTW, I find very scary.

He reiterated the idea, no details, he never has details. Whole thread on it last night. He first mentioned the idea in his July 2 speech (which is not posted on the Obama web site) I've been harping on that since then.

It's not only scary, it's unconstitutional. If he gets a super majority in congress and 2-3 SCOTUS picks it might fly.

71 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:37pm

I've gone to our early voting site four times this week. I've tried at 4:00, 2:00, 9:00 and 10:30.... each time, there was a line out the door. I've never seen anything like it for early voting. At this rate, Tuesday should be empty at my precinct!

72 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:56pm

re: #55 gmsc

It was the sight of us stripped of our avatars that inspired that thought.
I feel like we are all at a moonie wedding or something.

73 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:03pm

re: #52 US Navy Wife

It doesn't take long when you're a fast typist, and have memorized your credit card number. I didn't even have to get up.

I thought I was good with numbers. I don't even remember how many digits my cc's have - 16 maybe? And two finger typing only!

74 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:04pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

I didn't, but I did hear Rush talk about the woman who claimed she had to ration milk and snacks for her children. Elsewhere, I read that the woman had a full set of acrylic nails, which can run upwards of $40 depending on where you live.

75 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:11pm

Someone once said of Williie"s timing, "He starts out yesterday and arrive tomorrow "

76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:16pm

re: #17 US Navy Wife

^^^^ is a lady.

You're married. You don't count.
////Just kidding!

77 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:45pm

DavidCrowder

78 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:43:29pm

re: #19 Pvt Bin Jammin

Woot. The Navy is going to name a destroyer after Michael Monsoor, the SEAL who threw himself on the grenade to save others.

He won the CMOH. He deserves it! And his family.

79 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:43:40pm

re: #73 legalpad

I thought I was good with numbers. I don't even remember how many digits my cc's have - 16 maybe? And two finger typing only!

You clearly don't make online purchases as often as I do. ;)

80 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:09pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

Someone else commented on her $30,000 car sitting in the driveway too.....Only in America......

Gee, we are so poor, we cannot afford to get the entire HBO package on our DirectTV! WOE IS ME....please help me Obamessiah, please help me......

81 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:20pm

re: #76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You're married. You don't count.
////Just kidding!

Yeah, I know. *sniff*

I'm about to be geographically single tough. Does that count?

82 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:23pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

I just sent them $30. Hopefully they can run the ad a few times.

83 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:38pm

The Revolution is HERE!
FREE MONEY!

/how does it feel to be one of the beautiful people?

84 buckykat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:44pm

Los Angeles area lizards:
People will be out picketing the LA Times again tomorrow (Friday), starting at 10:00 a.m. and continuing well into the afternoon.

85 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:50pm

I Never Cared For You

86 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:27pm

As a break from the polls, let's look at some the more unusual and fun indicators of which presidential candidate will win:

(Via Hillbuzz)

(1) The Family Circle Cookie Bakeoff (correctly predicted winner since inception in 1992): Cindy McCain won with her delicious oatmeal butterscotch cookies, versus Michelle Obama’s bitter, clingy arugula socialist shortbreads.

(2) The Nickelodeon Kids’ Poll (wrong last election: kids picked Kerry): Obama won by just 2%, whereas kids voted for Kerry by 17% margin. Obama should have won this won 60-40% at least.

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

(4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

87 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:27pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Thanks.

88 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:36pm

re: #67 Yankee Division Son

They should have paired that with this video

You should e-mail them the link. Maybe they'll splice in part somewhere. I'm sure they are pulling out all the stops.

89 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:38pm

re: #77 steve

DavidCrowder

YEP, my kind of music!

90 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:53pm

Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama.


Must have been the bitter voters that cling to guns that forced him out./

91 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:55pm

Hey Southland Lizards!

How did the meetup go last week? I never saw any reports.

92 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #67 Yankee Division Son

They should have paired that with this video

There was not time for that. They should put that video on their website though.

93 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:46:02pm

re: #78 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He won the CMOH. He deserves it! And his family.

They seem like a lovely family. God Bless tham. What a remarkable young hero he was.

94 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:46:14pm

Bye Lizards.

I won't be back tonight so if anyone is around for fruitcup, say hi to littleoldlady for me.

/Red and x...clean up after yourselves tonight
//Blue and Sharmuta...Keep those eeyores in line!

I LOVE the dead thread!

95 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:46:27pm

re: #44 Irene NYC

Is there a big ACORN presence in LA?

Worse, a big libturd presence.

96 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:47:19pm

I've got to check out.

“When men are full of envy, they disparage everything, whether it be good or bad”
Publius Cornelius Tacitus

I think Tacitus watched Obama's infomercial.

97 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:47:24pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Nice!

98 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:47:41pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Tune out the polls, Turn Out the Vote!

99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:14pm

re: #52 US Navy Wife

It doesn't take long when you're a fast typist, and have memorized your credit card number. I didn't even have to get up.

Using Google toolbar's autofill, it's a snap. It will even fill in credit card numbers.

100 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:33pm

re: #84 buckykat

Great! I probably can't go at ten but will try to make it down there. Hope they ok'd it with the LAPD.

101 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:45pm

re: #86 gmsc
4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

Well that says it all right there: McCAIN BY A LANDSLIDE!

102 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:52pm

re: #37 legalpad

I donated, it's worth damn near anything to me to keep Barry O out of the White house. The United States has survived long enough on Democracy and not socialism.

103 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:56pm

re: #98 Colonel Panik

Tune out the polls, Turn Out the Vote!

VOTE THIS TUESDAY!

104 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:58pm

re: #81 US Navy Wife

Yeah, I know. *sniff*

I'm about to be geographically single tough though. Does that count?


PIMF

105 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:11pm

One more Willie: Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain

/ Namaste, Y'all

106 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:19pm

re: #90 JohnGaltLives

Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama.


Must have been the bitter voters that cling to guns that forced him out./

Tar, meet feathers.

107 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:27pm

re: #86 gmsc

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

Wrong, i found an entire Joe Biden costume.

108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:55pm

re: #69 outsidephilly

It was a fun game to watch, too!

Which one, they played 5. : )

109 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:58pm

re: #99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Using Google toolbar's autofill, it's a snap. It will even fill in credit card numbers.

That's just scary. What if my laptop takes a walk? I have a teenager in the house!

110 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:05pm

re: #90 JohnGaltLives

Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama.


Must have been the bitter voters that cling to guns that forced him out./

My husband will be devastated that he supports the Zero. Those are his most prized guns.

111 sadhu  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:09pm

Tito the Builder!

Youtube Video

112 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:36pm

I wish this were a joke...

major U.S. port has purchased a sophisticated high-energy X-ray scanning system from a Chinese manufacturer

113 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:42pm

re: #103 gmsc


I donated too. It is the least I can do to stop the One. If I do not do everything I can and the One is crowned I would regret it forever.

114 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:44pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

I didn't, but I did hear Rush talk about the woman who claimed she had to ration milk and snacks for her children. Elsewhere, I read that the woman had a full set of acrylic nails, which can run upwards of $40 depending on where you live.

The "poor" in America, meaning those people like my employees who are working minimum wage jobs, really have no idea what it means to be poor.

They know a little bit about being broke, spending as they do their small paychecks pretty dam quick on expensive hairdos, fancy nails, fast food, flash and bling. They just don't know jack about being poor.

If we really do go into a depression or even just a long recession, they wouldn't have a clue of how to make do.

It worries me.

It could be bad.

115 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:52pm

re: #95 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Worse, a big libturd presence.

LOL How right you are. I am, unfortunately, one of those folks who have my McCain stickers inside the house. I am positive my car would be vandalized if I had them on it. Sad.

116 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:16pm

re: #94 little blessing

Night little blessing. If I am up I will. Will do my best until I crash though.

117 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:20pm

re: #101 Wishing

4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

Well that says it all right there: McCAIN BY A LANDSLIDE!

Who can dare doubt the power of the Cabbage Patch Doll?
;)

118 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:23pm

re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Which one, they played 5. : )

. . . , the night is rained, and rained, and rained, and . . . . . , and certainly, the night they won! GOOD STUFF!

119 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:34pm

re: #98 Colonel Panik

Tune out the polls, Turn Out the Vote!

I am doing just that. I will speak to everyone I can to drum up more GOP votes in these last days. Come Tuesday, I'll walk over to vote even if its raining fire. I'm worried a good bit, but am not quitting. A win here is important, and what little I can do, I will do.

120 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:43pm

re: #112 Maximu§

I wish this were a joke...

major U.S. port has purchased a sophisticated high-energy X-ray scanning system from a Chinese manufacturer

That is ironic too, since so many Chinese products are loaded up with lead, the scanners will not see through them anyway

121 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:45pm

re: #89 outsidephilly

My kids turned me on tho him. Like just about everything hedoes.

BTW in one of his concerts he uses a guitar hero guitar that has been tweeked to play several cords.

122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:52:27pm

re: #81 US Navy Wife

Yeah, I know. *sniff*

I'm about to be geographically single tough. Does that count?

Single and tough, huh? : )))

123 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:52:45pm

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL How right you are. I am, unfortunately, one of those folks who have my McCain stickers inside the house. I am positive my car would be vandalized if I had them on it. Sad.

I proudly affixed my McCain sticker to my car. Yes, the car has been keyed. I also go to Texas A & M - where I'm lucky to return from class to find tires! The car is a 1993 though, there's not much that can be done to it that hasn't already happened.

124 jaunte  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:52:58pm

re: #112 Maximu§

I wish they had reported the costs of the other bids.

125 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:53:31pm

re: #121 steve

My kids turned me on tho him. Like just about everything hedoes.

BTW in one of his concerts he uses a guitar hero guitar that has been tweeked to play several cords.

I haven't been to any of his concerts, yet. Didn't he do one of the nights at the Harvest Crusade, recently?

126 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:53:44pm

re: #122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Single and tough, huh? : )))

Hey, I corrected it @ 104

127 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:54:19pm

re: #117 gmsc

Who can dare doubt the power of the Cabbage Patch Doll?
;)

It is ebay shoppers that i trust to kick the zero into last year. They wont tolerate his effeminate self. He is a pansy elitist who wouldn't know which end of a hammer to use. Nope the Zero hasnt a chance.

128 So?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:54:22pm

A movie by So?

129 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:54:50pm

re: #112 Maximu§

I wish this were a joke...

major U.S. port has purchased a sophisticated high-energy X-ray scanning system from a Chinese manufacturer

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

130 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:07pm

re: #125 outsidephilly

I haven't been to any of his concerts, yet. Didn't he do one of the nights at the Harvest Crusade, recently?

do not know about that but here is his list of tours
davidcrowderschedule

131 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:28pm

re: #109 US Navy Wife

That's just scary. What if my laptop takes a walk? I have a teenager in the house!

Most laptops don't have legs. That being said, if it's a credit card, the most they can get from you is $50. Debit card, you're on your own.

132 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:28pm

re: #130 steve

do not know about that but here is his list of tours
davidcrowderschedule

thanks

133 buckykat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:28pm

re: #100 Pvt Bin Jammin

I picketed for a while today. Everyone was well behaved, and the LAPD didn't interfere. It was organized by a puma.

134 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:15pm

OK, Phillies fans - congrats! Your 28-year baseball championship drought and 25-year sports championship drought is officially over!

However, 28 years without a World Series title doesn't even put the Phillies among the top 10 MLB teams with a World Series title drought.

In 2 minutes or less, can you name the MLB teams with the longest World Series title droughts?

135 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:17pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Take heart, Grasshopper. It's a Rovian plot, after all. I quote the master:

There has been an explosion of polls this presidential election. Through yesterday, there have been 728 national polls with head-to-head matchups of the candidates, 215 in October alone. In 2004, there were just 239 matchup polls, with 67 of those in October. At this rate, there may be almost as many national polls in October of 2008 as there were during the entire year in 2004.

Some polls are sponsored by reputable news organizations, others by publicity-eager universities or polling firms on the make. None have the scientific precision we imagine.

For example, academics gathered by the American Political Science Association at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel in Washington on Aug. 31, 2000, to make forecasts declared that Al Gore would be the winner. Their models told them so. Mr. Gore would receive between 53% and 60% of the two-party vote; Gov. George W. Bush would get between just 40% and 47%. Impersonal demographic and economic forces had settled the contest, they said. They were wrong.

Right now, all the polls show Barack Obama ahead of John McCain, but the margins vary widely (in part because some polls use an "expanded" definition of a likely voter, while others use a "traditional" polling model, which assumes turnout will mirror historical trends but with a higher turnout among African-Americans and young voters).

Go read the whole thing.

136 Racer X  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:24pm

1 More B4 11 04

Spread the Poverty!

137 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:31pm

re: #88 legalpad

You should e-mail them the link. Maybe they'll splice in part somewhere. I'm sure they are pulling out all the stops.

Done.

138 mattm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:37pm

It seems a war has broken out between Sheen and Pelosi:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

139 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:59pm

re: #132 outsidephilly

thanks


wish he would do more in the pacific nw other then creation fest in george wa.

140 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:26pm

re: #128 So?

A movie by So?

Great! "I'm going to tell Rashid Khalidi on you!"

141 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:28pm

Good night lizards. Take care of one and other.

142 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:44pm

re: #80 Desert Dog

Someone else commented on her $30,000 car sitting in the driveway too.....Only in America......

Gee, we are so poor, we cannot afford to get the entire HBO package on our DirectTV! WOE IS ME....please help me Obamessiah, please help me......

And then there's this woman, who's having the vapors she's so excited that she doesn't have to work for gas money or health care anymore. (It's towards the end of the clip.)

143 JeremyR  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:47pm

re: #86 gmsc

As a break from the polls, let's look at some the more unusual and fun indicators of which presidential candidate will win:

(Via Hillbuzz)

(1) The Family Circle Cookie Bakeoff (correctly predicted winner since inception in 1992): Cindy McCain won with her delicious oatmeal butterscotch cookies, versus Michelle Obama’s bitter, clingy arugula socialist shortbreads.

(2) The Nickelodeon Kids’ Poll (wrong last election: kids picked Kerry): Obama won by just 2%, whereas kids voted for Kerry by 17% margin. Obama should have won this won 60-40% at least.

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

(4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

The biden mask is easy to make at home, just a few hair plugs and some gray paint.

144 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:48pm

re: #131 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Most laptops don't have legs. That being said, if it's a credit card, the most they can get from you is $50. Debit card, you're on your own.

"They" would be my son. It isn't like I'm going to turn him in... although, I have to admit that when Iowa (?) changed their kid drop-off law to not include teenagers I was saddened.

I don't trust autofill because I don't fully trust my son. Sad, but true.

145 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:57pm

re: #126 US Navy Wife

Hey, I corrected it @ 104

I know. : )

146 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:58:15pm

re: #138 mattm

It seems a war has broken out between Sheen and Pelosi:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Martin or Charlie?

147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:58:43pm

re: #134 gmsc

OK, Phillies fans - congrats! Your 28-year baseball championship drought and 25-year sports championship drought is officially over!

However, 28 years without a World Series title doesn't even put the Phillies among the top 10 MLB teams with a World Series title drought.

In 2 minutes or less, can you name the MLB teams with the longest World Series title droughts?

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

148 Redline  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:58:43pm

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

149 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:03pm

re: #123 US Navy Wife

I proudly affixed my McCain sticker to my car. Yes, the car has been keyed. I also go to Texas A & M - where I'm lucky to return from class to find tires! The car is a 1993 though, there's not much that can be done to it that hasn't already happened.

Bless your heart. My car is older too, 1998, but it's a convertible, in good shape, and I have to park on the street. I just don't want to chance it. I talk it up about McCain/Palin whenever/wherever I can, though, so feel like I'm doing something.

150 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:13pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

Ditto.

151 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:15pm

re: #84 buckykat

Los Angeles area lizards:
People will be out picketing the LA Times again tomorrow (Friday), starting at 10:00 a.m. and continuing well into the afternoon.

I'm curious about one aspect of the LA Times issue. They now say that they can't release the tape without putting the source in danger. Danger from whom? From Obama's minions, or from the peaceful pro-Palestinians who are on the tape?

152 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:16pm

re: #139 steve

wish he would do more in the pacific nw other then creation fest in george wa.


maybe if you mention that to him, he'll re-arrange his schedule . . . . , he's that kind of guy. Hey, get your church to host his band!

153 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:31pm

re: #120 Desert Dog

That is ironic too, since so many Chinese products are loaded up with lead, the scanners will not see through them anyway

A European and an American company lost that bid, if we're gonna lose that bid, its better that it goes to a European firm than a Chinese firm. Someone needs to lose their job for this, of course the Chinese came in with the low bid and I would bet my next check the owners of the Chinese company who won the bid are also connected to the PRC military.

154 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:31pm

re: #148 Redline

VERY scary.

I need to find out which pharmaceutical companies make anti-anxiety drugs and invest.

155 boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:34pm

re: #146 gmsc

Martin or Charlie?

Afro. :D

156 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:40pm

Charles, I have a suggestion on the 'report' button.

I thought you had removed the report link. You previously had a text link next to 'reply' and 'quote'. I used it often.

The exclamation button as a report button is unfamiliar to me and to many others. I have never used it.

My suggestion would be to add a 'title' or an 'alt' to the exclamation point image saying 'report abuses', or just revert back to the text link ( I suggest the text link since this feature seems to be critical to you).

157 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:59pm

I will say it again:

The Zero has a complete pass by the MSM... with his arab dollars he has run circles around the Republican campaign.
That he is NOT ahead by 30 pts tells me that McCain is going to be the CLEAR winner on Nov 5.
Everyone will be shocked, and mayhem will break out in the cities.
Demands for free Plasma TV's will reach a crescendo.

158 jaunte  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:00pm

News from Iraq
I just received this image in an email from my daughter, who is currently stationed at Ft. Lewis, WA. She wanted to let me know what her fiancee was up to in Iraq. Looks as if things have calmed down a bit.
"Cowboy Up":
[Link: i452.photobucket.com...]

159 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:10pm

I encourage you all to read the following, which I also linked upstairs:

What you were never intended to know in this election

By a Hillary turned Obama staffer who is so disillusioned she wrote this piece and seems not to be voting for anyone.

She is right out front about the psy ops of the campaign, among other things.

Thanks to Erisl for the link.

160 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:22pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

The curse of the Goat lives on....

161 Macker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:48pm

re: #8 Moe Katz

Happiness is a warm wife.

What is wife?

162 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:02:15pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You poor soul. You know there's groups for that don't you. ;)

163 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:02:31pm

re: #133 buckykat

I picketed for a while today. Everyone was well behaved, and the LAPD didn't interfere. It was organized by a puma.

Thanks. I'll try to go for awhile.

Got to love those PUMAs.

164 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:02:50pm

re: #162 BlueCanuck

You poor soul. You know there's groups for that don't you. ;)

SMACK!

165 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:03:37pm

re: #34 IslandLibertarian
No I didn't catch that, but it's genuinely funny because althought the LA Times won't release the videotape, we have a confirmed invited guest list and on that list was
#3 Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers
#4 Barack Obama
#5 Mayor Richard Daley.

166 bosforus  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:03:38pm

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

167 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:03:56pm

re: #144 US Navy Wife

never trust a teenager. --even the best teenager can trust bad friends.

168 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:13pm

re: #107 Desert Dog

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

Wrong, i found an entire Joe Biden costume.

He'd kill for that hair!

169 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:14pm

re: #148 Redline

Large grain of salt here. I think that an underground nuke test has different seismographic traces than an earthquake. If it was a nuke test A LOT of people would be jumping up and down and screaming.

170 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:25pm

re: #167 ggt

Excellent advice, ggt. Thank you.

171 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:43pm

re: #153 Maximu§

Why are we even letting them bid on stuff like that? It's like the outsourcing of the "tamper proof" passports to a company in Bangkok....wtf are we thinking?

172 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:52pm

re: #153 Maximu§

COSCO ring a bell. They are already running Long Beach.

173 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:58pm

re: #135 Steffan

Go read the whole thing.

Already did. I also hung out at some dem forums and (in between skipping over the bullshit) read extensively on what they're PO'd about, how they feel about the Republican party, what their friends and relatives are saying & doing, etc.

There is a case to be made for "change" if - IF - you're willing to believe that O really is some kind of Magic Moderate who's "cool" and has the chops to be a great President. All you have to do is convince yourself that everything about Obie's background is a lie, smear, or distortion. If you're really sick to death of the pigs at the trough, think our global policies are fucked, and believe Obama's marketing strategy, then you'll turn out for Zero.

And a lot of people apparently believe it.

I'm not sure what will happen. I don't think any result would surprise me, really, but on the flip side of that coin, I'm not going to "hope" for anything, other than that the natives on the bad side of the highway don't go wild and try to break any of my stuff next Wednesday. And I've got enough paint and plywood for a warning sign, and the hardware to back it up, if it comes to that.

I don't think anybody knows for sure what's really going to happen. It all depends on turnout: Which way uncommiteds break, and how many of each candidate's fan clubs actually show up at the polls.

174 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:03pm

re: #109 US Navy Wife

That's just scary. What if my laptop takes a walk? I have a teenager in the house!

Yeah - if you've memorized it, you can't beat that. But beware of keyloggers in unsecured wireless networks.

175 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:20pm

re: #151 stuiec

A islamamuslim? giving-in to the bullies again, I see.

/Nice to have a fine journalistic institution with balls. Taking lessons from Eason Jordan?

176 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:21pm
177 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:21pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

The Cubs are a GREAT team to watch, too! Can't wait to watch them next year . . . , 'night all!

178 boogereatinmoron  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:44pm

I am looking for thoughts and comments on the Alaska problem. There is a movement in the state to get people to vote for Ted Stevens with the understanding that he will step down or be removed opening the door for Sarah Palin to take his seat. As much as I fear an Obama presidency and though I realize the magnitude of a super majority for the dems in the senate I cannot bring myself to vote for a convicted felon. Does anyone else have similar situations in other states?

179 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:06:40pm

re: #178 boogereatinmoron

Why would our next Vice President want a Senate seat?
/

180 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:06:51pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

it's too early in the thread for an Eeyore..... you're gonna screw up our buzz.

181 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:06:57pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

heh heh heh.

/glad I remembered my helmet today.

182 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:07:25pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

If this is true it needs to be trumpeted from the rooftops. Especially to undecided Jewish voters!

183 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:07:26pm

re: #178 boogereatinmoron

I am looking for thoughts and comments on the Alaska problem. There is a movement in the state to get people to vote for Ted Stevens with the understanding that he will step down or be removed opening the door for Sarah Palin to take his seat. As much as I fear an Obama presidency and though I realize the magnitude of a super majority for the dems in the senate I cannot bring myself to vote for a convicted felon. Does anyone else have similar situations in other states?

No. No other GOP senator has Senator Bridge to Nowhere's problem.

184 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:07:54pm

re: #180 redc1c4

it's too early in the thread for an Eeyore..... you're gonna screw up our buzz.

That's what liquor is for, guy!

/Drunk Thursday, the early start to the weekend

185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:08:17pm

re: #160 Maximu§

The curse of the Goat lives on....

Nah, any team can have a bad century...

186 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:08:31pm

re: #159 neocon hippie

THANK YOU so much for posting that! What a satisfying read that is.
It even has a couple of surprises.

187 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:08:45pm

re: #170 US Navy Wife

The other advice I like is:

When your teenager is rude, or whacky towards you, don't take it personally. Just treat them as you would your best friend when extremely drunk.

188 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:02pm

re: #180 redc1c4

it's too early in the thread for an Eeyore..... you're gonna screw up our buzz.

Let's just get the Eeyore some thistle. Eeyores love thistle.

189 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:07pm

re: #185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So are they working on their second now?

/easy there, just pulling legs. don't care either way.

190 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:11pm

re: #162 BlueCanuck

You poor soul. You know there's groups for that don't you. ;)

Thank the lord for bars!

191 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:24pm

re: #187 ggt

As long as he doesn't puke on me, I'm willing to give that a try.

192 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:36pm
re: #159 neocon hippie

THANK YOU so much for posting that! What a satisfying read that is.
It even has a couple of surprises.

I don't believe a word of this letter. This is not written by some 20 year old.

193 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:54pm

re: #186 rawmuse

You're welcome. That is one of the most bracing reads of this campaign that's come my way in a long time.

Didn't make it to Reno yet. Got hung up and by the time I got going the traffic was so bad getting out that I bailed. Will go midday tomorrow before the traffic hits.

194 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:10:36pm

Tonight's muscial request from the Great Messiah. Now playing over state controlled radio...

How'd I know this was one of his favorites?

195 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:10:44pm

re: #191 US Navy Wife

Yeah, well, we've lived thru puke. Although, it was called "spit-up".

196 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:11:35pm

Since it's October 31st over half of the continental US now, how about a few Halloween ditties to get us in the mood?

This is Halloween (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

Time Warp (plus the Drew Carey "Time Warp vs. Groove Thing" version and the Star Trek version)

Thriller (Yes, you can have "Indian Thriller", too!)

197 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:11:38pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

Actually, I am expecting a (large) Iranian work accident given the educational focus of those Islamic is about 100% on the Quran memorization and nothing else.

198 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:12:05pm

re: #188 Dark_Falcon

Let's just get the Eeyore some thistle. Eeyores love thistle.

I get my thistle on the internet. It's free.

I already voted, and legally I can't campaign for McCain/Palin because I pulled the lever for Hillary in the Dem primary. I don't even have a fence-sitter I can try to convince. Nothin' to do but sit and watch and clean my rifle like Private Pyle.

199 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:12:31pm

re: #194 oh_dude

Tonight's muscial request from the Great Messiah. Now playing over state controlled radio...

How'd I know this was one of his favorites?

Naw, naw, naw.
This is Obama's favorite song.

200 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:12:42pm

re: #194 oh_dude

Tonight's muscial request from the Great Messiah. Now playing over state controlled radio...

How'd I know this was one of his favorites?

I love this one too. Depeche Mode had some great ones.

201 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:13:02pm

re: #195 ggt

Yeah, well, we've lived thru puke. Although, it was called "spit-up".

HA!

I tell ya, I'm not looking forward to two years of single parenting. I don't know how they do it! I'm too accustomed to having a good-cop / bad-cop situation where one parent does the yelling and the other helps him to see how he can get back in good graces. (We change up the roles just to keep him guessing.) Doing that with no other adult in the house makes me feel a tad schizophrenic. I end up moderating my anger and he gets away with more than he should. *sigh* Parenting is not for wimps!

202 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:13:36pm

re: #166 bosforus

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

I will be praying ofor him and his family

203 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:01pm

re: #144 US Navy Wife

I don't trust autofill because I don't fully trust my son. Sad, but true.

Maybe not so sad. How old is he? (I have 5 sons.)

204 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:20pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

I get my thistle on the internet. It's free.

I already voted, and legally I can't campaign for McCain/Palin because I pulled the lever for Hillary in the Dem primary. I don't even have a fence-sitter I can try to convince. Nothin' to do but sit and watch and clean my rifle like Private Pyle.

Huh?

205 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:38pm
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

206 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:51pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

Bull F'ing-shit...Seismographs can tell the difference because they calculate the vibrations by the speed and direction at which they travel.

207 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:54pm

re: #166 bosforus

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

That's a shame. I wish them good luck.

208 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:02pm

re: #203 legalpad

Maybe not so sad. How old is he? (I have 5 sons.)

16. 16 going on 4 or 40, depending on the day. (or the hour)

209 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:11pm

re: #158 jaunte

I got an error message on that photo.

210 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:16pm

re: #196 gmsc

Have you ever rode on the Haunted Mansion when they do the Nightmare Before Xmas overlay for Halloween? It's way cool.

211 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:23pm

re: #193 neocon hippie

Godspeed and thanks in advance. I have a busy work weekend this weekend, so I have chosen to make the $ and send donations.

After the election, we should do another meet up.

212 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:11pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

Buck up, it isn't over yet. Besides why should you trust the polls? Didn't you read iowahawks piece on polling statistic numbers? Humourous yes, but very true and factual. I have never trusted polls, even when they are going my way. Only one poll you should trust and we will know how it turns out on Nov 4th/5th.

213 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:17pm

re: #210 oh_dude

Have you ever rode on the Haunted Mansion when they do the Nightmare Before Xmas overlay for Halloween? It's way cool.

I have to do that someday - it sounds great! (no, I haven't)

214 FortunateSon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:22pm

re: #148 Redline

...and on that note, Happy Halloween to all of you Lizards in the eastern time zones!

Classes are keeping me in this year, but next year? The best Indiana Jones costume you'll ever see...

215 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:33pm

re: #199 faraway

Naw, naw, naw.
This is Obama's favorite song.

Nope, Obama doesn't fit that song at all. He really does want to change the world.

216 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:41pm

eere: #94 little blessing


//Blue and Sharmuta...Keep those eeyores in line!

Move 'em on, head 'em up --

217 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:54pm

re: #199 faraway

Naw, naw, naw.
This is Obama's favorite song.

Nope, this is Obama's real theme song

218 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:17:49pm

re: #206 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ah, thanks for that tidbit. I knew that there were differences between nature and manmade events.

219 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:17:51pm

re: #148 Redline

I just google Earth'd the coordinates mentioned in the Israel Insider article. 26.70°N, 55.02°E A dry lake bed out in the middle of nowhere. Just like where we used to do our underground tests in Nevada.

220 bosforus  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:37pm

re: #202 steve

re: #207 Moe Katz

Much appreciated. Though I'm sure Obama taxing his bosses will free up some money to rehire him. Wait a second...

221 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:45pm

re: #217 Desert Dog

Nope, this is Obama's real theme song

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

222 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:46pm

re: #213 gmsc


My wife have been annual passholders for Disneyland for like 10 years and I think we've gone every single year.

It's like an annual pilgrimage for all the Goth-type high school kids. Very cool. Definitely put it on your list.

223 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:47pm

boogereatinmoron

Lol!

224 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:56pm

re: #178 boogereatinmoron

I would hold my nose and vote for Ted. Gag.
That's how important I think keeping the Democrats from getting 60 seats is.

225 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:19:18pm

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Nope, Obama doesn't fit that song at all. He really does want to change the world.

If he's so into '60s ways of changing the world, may I suggest a more effective use of all that money he's collected?

226 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:19:52pm

Jackie Mason on Ayers and Acorn

227 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:08pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're right.....that IS his theme song

228 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:24pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

HA HA! I started the thread, but you definitely ended it!

BARRY=BARNEY

229 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:38pm

Outsidephilly, try building429 they are worth a listen to.

[Link: www.building429.com...]

230 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:44pm

re: #204 US Navy Wife

Huh?

I crossed the aisle, so to speak, and voted for Hillary in the Texas primary. Texas law bars me from working/volunteering for a non-Democrat campaign for one year.

(My vote for Hillary wasn't a chaos-generating move either. McCain had been decided on by the Republicans at that point, so I thought of it as shaping the contest: there are three, and there must be two, so which of the three do I want to get rid of? Easy answer, "Barry the Liar". Hillary is a known quantity who's narcissism could be worked with.)

231 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:57pm

re: #166 bosforus

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

So sorry to hear that. I wish him good luck landing back on his feet again.

232 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:11pm

re: #218 BlueCanuck

Ah, thanks for that tidbit. I knew that there were differences between nature and manmade events.

Back in the 50's and 60's it was difficult to differentiate. But today the seismographs use satellites (GPS) to plot the direction of the shockwaves, so it's highly unlikely it was a nuke.

233 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:16pm

re: #172 Pvt Bin Jammin

COSCO ring a bell. They are already running Long Beach.

I wonder why no Senators are speaking out on this? American jobs are being lost, our security is being compromised....Hello!

Next thing we'll see is our submarines, F-22's and destroyers being made in China to save a few bucks and after the Chinese reverse-engineer them, our troops will be facing our own high-tech weapons.

234 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:27pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

Decepticon in a Barney suit

235 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:49pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

"I hate O, I hate B,
I hate Obama can't you see.
With a roar and shout, voters threw him out the door,
Him and his lefty dinosaurs."

I hope to be singing that on November 5th.

236 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:52pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

This is what I think Obama's theme song is.

237 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:56pm

re: #201 US Navy Wife

Nope --we use an impartial third party (therapist). Both hubby and I impartial adults --friends of the family, but the kid doesn't. So we hired one.

Found it really helps.

238 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:22:20pm

re: #230 Pawn of the Oppressor

No one knows how I vote. How do they know how you vote?

239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:22:29pm

re: #219 Colonel Panik

I just google Earth'd the coordinates mentioned in the Israel Insider article. 26.70°N, 55.02°E A dry lake bed out in the middle of nowhere. Just like where we used to do our underground tests in Nevada.

Look for known faults in that area. A dollar to a donut there's one there.

240 hazzyday  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:22:48pm

I haven't voted yet. I like the suspense. I think i will wait til Tuesday.

241 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:23:02pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

nukes have a completely different wave pattern, and we've had years to learn which is which.

not saying they didn't, just saying they couldn't fool the experts.

242 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:23:41pm

re: #236 Moe Katz

This is what I think Obama's theme song is.

Not bad, Moe.

243 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:23:43pm

re: #234 Piglet-U93

Decepticon in a Barney suit

And he seeks to destroy America's Allspark Constitution.

244 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:01pm

Night Lizards, it's time for me to go to bed.

weet dreams!

245 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:02pm

Interesting, we've got two submissions of the Barney theme and two of the Coca-Cola anthem.

246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:32pm

re: #233 Maximu§

I wonder why no Senators are speaking out on this? American jobs are being lost, our security is being compromised....Hello!

Next thing we'll see is our submarines, F-22's and destroyers being made in China to save a few bucks and after the Chinese reverse-engineer them, our troops will be facing our own high-tech weapons.

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

247 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:40pm

re: #238 US Navy Wife

No one knows how I vote. How do they know how you vote?

I don't break laws. Not even to sink Obama.

248 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:54pm

re: #245 Moe Katz

Interesting, we've got two submissions of the Barney theme and two of the Coca-Cola anthem.

Well, he talks like Barney and he used coke. Just saying...

249 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:25:42pm

re: #241 redc1c4

nukes have a completely different wave pattern, and we've had years to learn which is which.

not saying they didn't, just saying they couldn't fool the experts.

Thanks for agreeing!

250 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:25:50pm

Night ggt, sleep well and warm.

251 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:25:58pm

re: #245 Moe Katz

I missed the earlier Barney. My apologies to whomever I stomped on.

252 itellu3times  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:05pm

re: #233 Maximu§

Next thing we'll see is our submarines, F-22's and destroyers being made in China to save a few bucks and after the Chinese reverse-engineer them, our troops will be facing our own high-tech weapons.

India.

253 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:09pm

I'm sorry, but this is the real theme song

254 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:10pm

re: #246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I'm still ill'n over that crap.

255 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:20pm

re: #208 US Navy Wife

ggt has some good thoughts. The drunk friend thing, the bad friends - be steady, not too intense - in time even the worst can sober up. I have one that I went through some stuff with age 15 to 19 - I stuck with him (sent some of his former, older, associates to prison), and he is good as gold, and now age 27 and a great Father himself. I could rave on and on about him.

256 abolitionist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:50pm

Tech question for anyone: Lately, I seem to have lost the ability to bring up the info page of a user by clicking his/her/my avatar or football. For a while, the info page would only come up for those avatars/footballs in the sidelinks, but not in these comments. Now, no info page appears in either context. LGF's front page appears instead.

I've tried turning off NoScript, antivirus, firewalls, disabling add-ons, etc but I can't regain the old functionality. Can I safely try dumping all my LGF cookies? Is that function just gone or temporarily disabled?

What happens for YOU when you right click someone's football?

My desktop has 98se/Firefox 2.0.0.17 and laptop has Vista Home Premiun/Firefox 3.0.3. Similar behaviours.

257 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:27:10pm

re: #253 faraway

I'm sorry, but this is the real theme song

YOU WIN!

258 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:27:26pm

USGS Information

Magnitude 5.0 - SOUTHERN IRAN
2008 October 25 20:17:20 UTC
26.533°N, 54.985°E

If this was an actual underground nuclear test we would have heard about it from official channels.

/Another conspiracy theory.

259 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:27:53pm

Sadly, this might be my theme song on Nov 5th

260 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:03pm

re: #196 gmsc

Thanks, gmsc... today marks MY birthdate... always tied up with leaf-smoke, Halloween, costumes, parties... but not now that I'm past 60... :D

261 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:19pm

re: #253 faraway

I'm sorry, but this is the real theme song

Good choice. That's one of my father's favorite songs.

262 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:35pm

Well, I guess that I might as well get off to sleep and cuddle with the Mrs. Steve.

Good night to all you wonderful Lizards.

263 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:44pm

re: #217 Desert Dog

Nope, this is Obama's real theme song

I think this one is more fitting.

264 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:54pm

re: #251 US Navy Wife

I missed the earlier Barney. My apologies to whomever I stomped on.

Yours was the first. Don't be so apologetic!

265 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:09pm

re: #260 Karridine

Thanks, gmsc... today marks MY birthdate... always tied up with leaf-smoke, Halloween, costumes, parties... but not now that I'm past 60... :D

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

266 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:29pm

re: #259 faraway

Sadly, this might be my theme song on Nov 5th

Singing the blues? We'll get you some blue thistle, Eeyore.

267 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:30pm

re: #151 stuiec

I'm curious about one aspect of the LA Times issue. They now say that they can't release the tape without putting the source in danger. Danger from whom? From Obama's minions, or from the peaceful pro-Palestinians who are on the tape?

That was my question too.....Danger from whom? They should tell us who's threatening them. That certainly would be newsworthy.

268 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:38pm

re: #254 Maximu§

I'm still ill'n over that crap.

Bill Gertz wrote a great book about it called "Betrayal: How the Clinton Administration Undermined American Security ". I'm sure your local library has it.

269 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:48pm

re: #12 rawmuse

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

Always look on the bright side of life...

270 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:08pm

re: #255 legalpad

ggt has some good thoughts. The drunk friend thing, the bad friends - be steady, not too intense - in time even the worst can sober up. I have one that I went through some stuff with age 15 to 19 - I stuck with him (sent some of his former, older, associates to prison), and he is good as gold, and now age 27 and a great Father himself. I could rave on and on about him.

Thank you, legalpad. I have hope most days. I think the stress of the elections, coupled with my husband's imminent move, has made me more sensitive. I'll try to be less intense.

271 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:12pm

Obama's 2nd inaugural song

272 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:15pm

If you need to get away from politics, and have a big screen tv, and just want to take in some stunning photography, air, underwater, and land, stills and movies, with a great orchestra score this is my recommendation.

Rawmuse sez check it out. It is on Netflix as well.

273 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:33pm

Obama's next? You Love Us

274 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:50pm

re: #259 faraway

Dinged you down for that one. FOR SHAME!

275 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:31:48pm

Here in Vegas, we have a woman who is 104 years old. She's voted in every election since she was old enough to vote in the 1928 Hoover vs. Coolidge election. She says that her father gave her 2 rules when it came to voting:

1) Always vote.

2) Never tell who you voted for.

She says to this day, she's followed both rules.

276 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:31:56pm

re: #263 Syrah

I think this one is more fitting.

That was awesome.

277 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:06pm

re: #233 Maximu§

I don't understand why they're not speaking out either. I can understand why our own lame senators aren't but you'd think some of the others would be making a huge stink about it. COSCO runs the canal, too.

I remember years ago when we were thinking about giving back the canal my hubby and I wrote to Sen. Alan Cranston. He wrote us some kind of pitiful, condescending letter....made me want to puke.

278 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:09pm

re: #264 Moe Katz

Yours was the first. Don't be so apologetic!

Well then, dammit... who stomped on me?

/

279 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:22pm

re: #271 faraway

Obama's 2nd inaugural song

Why would 0bama have an inaugural song?

280 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:30pm

re: #274 US Navy Wife

Dinged you down for that one. FOR SHAME!

I dinged him down also. And I didn't even click on the link. Just the post was enough. WE WILL WIN!

281 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:38pm

Eeyores should go soak their heads this evening.

Go McCain/Palin!

282 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:53pm

re: #260 Karridine

Happy Birthday Karridine. May you have many more and may they all be memorable and joyous.

283 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:14pm

re: #281 Adina in Judea

Up-dinged you for that one!

284 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:26pm

re: #260 Karridine

Thanks, gmsc... today marks MY birthdate... always tied up with leaf-smoke, Halloween, costumes, parties... but not now that I'm past 60... :D

You're welcome! and Happy Birthday!

285 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:29pm

re: #278 US Navy Wife

Well then, dammit... who stomped on me?

/

LOL! That's much better :)

286 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:32pm

A good place to start

Leftover from the last thread, but a good place to start.

I'm particularily fond of James Madison in No. 10. Seems to have relevance and gives me peace.

The latent causes of faction are thus sown in the nature of man; and we see them everywhere brought into different degrees of activity, according to the different circumstances of civil society. A zeal for different opinions concerning religion, concerning government, and many other points, as well of speculation as of practice; an attachment to different leaders ambitiously contending for pre-eminence and power; or to persons of other descriptions whose fortunes have been interesting to the human passions, have, in turn, divided mankind into parties, inflamed them with mutual animosity, and rendered them much more disposed to vex and oppress each other than to co-operate for their common good. So strong is this propensity of mankind to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts. But the most common and durable source of factions has been the various and unequal distribution of property. Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. Those who are creditors, and those who are debtors, fall under a like discrimination. A landed interest, a manufacturing interest, a mercantile interest, a moneyed interest, with many lesser interests, grow up of necessity in civilized nations, and divide them into different classes, actuated by different sentiments and views. The regulation of these various and interfering interests forms the principal task of modern legislation, and involves the spirit of party and faction in the necessary and ordinary operations of the government.
287 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:05pm

Another one for the O --

but I definitely vote for #263

288 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:08pm

re: #19 Pvt Bin Jammin

Woot. The Navy is going to name a destroyer after Michael Monsoor, the SEAL who threw himself on the grenade to save others.


Yeah, but there are people in California who objected to a statue being displayed of him with a rifle.

289 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:08pm

Yakkety Yack Obama

290 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:18pm

re: #280 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

WE WILL WIN!

Yes, we will!

291 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:42pm

re: #230 Pawn of the Oppressor

I crossed the aisle, so to speak, and voted for Hillary in the Texas primary. Texas law bars me from working/volunteering for a non-Democrat campaign for one year.

Working/volunteering in an official capacity I presume. And how does it affect your contributions, voting, etc.?

292 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:57pm

re: #246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I meant to mention that too. What a POS.

293 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:35:18pm

re: #263 Syrah

I think this one is more fitting.

How about this one. Given that he acts like Juan Peron sometimes, its fitting.

294 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:35:45pm

A dedication to all the followers of the Zero™ and his cult of personality.

295 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:35:57pm

Enough 0bama songs!

How about something to inspire the McCain voters to join together for our common cause?

296 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:36:38pm

Bed time, gotta get ready for the party tomarrow night at my house...

297 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:36:40pm

re: #292 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I meant to mention that too. What a POS.

See my #268 if you missed it.

298 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:36:45pm

re: #294 BlueCanuck

A dedication to all the followers of the Zero™ and his cult of personality.

Oooops PIMF. 0~0

299 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:37:32pm

Obama said this about the White House

300 Macker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:37:55pm

re: #196 gmsc

Since it's October 31st over half of the continental US now, how about a few Halloween ditties to get us in the mood?

This is Halloween (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

Time Warp (plus the Drew Carey "Time Warp vs. Groove Thing" version and the Star Trek version)

Thriller (Yes, you can have "Indian Thriller", too!)

And don't forget Killer Klowns from Outer Space!

301 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:03pm

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

302 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:06pm

re: #291 legalpad

Working/volunteering in an official capacity I presume. And how does it affect your contributions, voting, etc.?

Not sure about contributions - moot point anyway, I don't have any money. Voting, well, obviously I can vote for whoever I want.

I turned the dial to "Straight Republican" and pressed "Cast Ballot". Voting took me all of five seconds. Yes, the right thing to do was research, pick individual candidates based on their merits, etc. but somebody has to be there to obstruct the Pelosi-Reid (and possibly -Obama) Axis of Pain.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to talk at length with my girl in NYC over the weekend and push her into the McPain camp. It won't matter in New York, really, but it's worth a try.

303 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:09pm

re: #239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The Israel Insider article suggested that's exactly why they would test in that area, to camouflage it. There is a geographical feature that appears roughly like a fault line would in California about 8 miles away from the coordinates. Turning on "earthquakes" shows a 4.2 and 5.1 just a few miles from that coordinate.

I'd like to see the seismo traces for those and compare them to a known nuke test seismo trace.

Biden did say "The One" would be tested shortly after assuming office.

304 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:23pm

I've got to get to bed. Goodnight all.

305 Macker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:56pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

"I Hate You
You Hate Me
Let's Hang Barney From a Tree!"

306 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:32pm

re: #303 Colonel Panik

The Israel Insider article suggested that's exactly why they would test in that area, to camouflage it. There is a geographical feature that appears roughly like a fault line would in California about 8 miles away from the coordinates. Turning on "earthquakes" shows a 4.2 and 5.1 just a few miles from that coordinate.

I'd like to see the seismo traces for those and compare them to a known nuke test seismo trace.

Biden did say "The One" would be tested shortly after assuming office.

I doubt this is real, but wouldn't that be something? What a hell of an October Surprise, an Iranian nuke! Jeez... Let's hope not... Let's hope Never!

307 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:43pm

The Show Must Go On

308 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:46pm

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

I'm a Believer

309 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:48pm

re: #138 mattm I'll lay odds that someone in Shehags' campaign did it to get some attention. Cindy ain't beating Pelosi anyway, but if you look at the end of the article it says:

"SOURCE Cindy Sheehan; Cindy for Congress
Copyright 2008 PR Newswire. All Rights Reserved."

310 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:40:20pm

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

Me, too!

I've been feeling this way very strongly since Thursday morning!

311 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:40:25pm

re: #173 Pawn of the Oppressor

The PUMAs seem to think that The One is going to get a nasty surprise, especially in the NE area. They expect ME and NH to go solidly for McCain.... and they think it's too close to call in IA. Given McCain's opposition to food-grain ethanol, you'd think The One would have an overwhelming advantage there.

Apparently not....

312 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:40:58pm

re: #295 gmsc

Enough 0bama songs!

How about something to inspire the McCain voters to join together for our common cause?

Here's another, gmsc.

313 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:23pm

re: #288 shanec99
" but there are people in California who objected to a statue being displayed of him with a rifle."
OMG I feel embarrassed to be a Californian sometimes but I believe it. I used to be the president of a high school band/orchestra booster club. At one time the marching band had a drill team that used wooden rifles and would you believe it, a group of parents put the pressure on to get it stopped! My own sister-in-law stopped an eighth grade graduating class from having a paint ball party for the same reason and her kid was in the seventh grade. Who in the heck do these people think keeps us free?

314 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:34pm

re: #196 gmsc

Since it's October 31st over half of the continental US now, how about a few Halloween ditties to get us in the mood?

This is Halloween (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

Time Warp (plus the Drew Carey "Time Warp vs. Groove Thing" version and the Star Trek version)

Thriller (Yes, you can have "Indian Thriller", too!)

How about a little John Kerry moment..."Do the Lurch"

315 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:49pm

GMSC, Maximus and friends... thanks for the kind regards...

Its another workday as we spin around the Sun on our Green Jewel... but in my workday I sprinkle uplifting and eye-opening and gratitude...

/voted absentee for The Olde Guy and The Great Gal! :D

316 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:51pm

re: #177 outsidephilly

Yep.

The Tao of the True Cubs Fan:

There's always next year!

317 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:59pm

The End

318 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #114 Syrah
Hey hi Syrah - yep, you're correct! They wouldn't have a clue.
BTW, can you tell me what kind of business you run?
Will you be able to survive the higher taxes and health insurance requriements OR FINES if you don't insure your employees under an Obama Presidency?

319 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:42:55pm

re: #296 Maximu§

We had one last Saturday and it wore us out. Get some rest.

320 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:43:16pm

re: #303 Colonel Panik

The Insider didn't get the epicenter right. The epicenter was south of Kong, Iran in the littoral waters of the Strait of Hormuz. The correct location is noted in the USGS report including all information.

As you can see in this map it shows the exact location which would have put the epicenter of this imaginary test underwater.

Again, the epicenter as reported by the "Insider" is incorrect. The summary information from the USGS is here.

321 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:43:35pm

re: #288 shanec99

Yeah, but there are people in California who objected to a statue being displayed of him with a rifle.

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

322 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:44:17pm

re: #259 faraway

Don't let anything convince you that you have to stop fighting, in whatever capacity you can. If "they" win this election, it does not represent the majority of the American people, not even close. It represents a temporary win for special interests and the elite tyrants. They will not win.

323 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:20pm

re: #281 Adina in Judea

Eeyores should go soak their heads this evening.

Go McCain/Palin!

And Likud/Netanyahu in Israel!

324 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:37pm

re: #184 Pawn of the Oppressor

That's what liquor is for, guy!

/Drunk Thursday, the early start to the weekend

why do you wait for Thursday?

i start the weekend on monday...... %-)

Rudie can't fail!

325 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:48pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

Ick.

I prefer the parody version:

"I hate you, you hate me,
Let's hang Barney from a tree...."

326 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:49pm

re: #306 Pawn of the Oppressor

I doubt this is real, but wouldn't that be something? What a hell of an October Surprise, an Iranian nuke! Jeez... Let's hope not... Let's hope Never!

I'd rather they be exposed as having it now and have it tip the election in McCain's favor than have it revealed just a few months after "The One" takes office, wouldn't you agree?

This is a boil that is going to have to be lanced eventually. Best to get it over with as soon as possible.

327 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:46:15pm

re: #321 Colonel Panik

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

Give me a break. A soldier without a weapon is like a cheesesteak without the cheese. It just don't work. Too many people are too hypersensitive about guns it's scary.

328 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:47:02pm

re: #312 US Navy Wife

Here's another, gmsc.


And this good old favorite

329 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:47:12pm

re: #323 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #281 Adina in Judea

Eeyores should go soak their heads this evening.

Go McCain/Palin!

And Likud/Netanyahu in Israel!

Absolutely!

Go Likud/Netanyahu, too!

330 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:47:56pm

re: #300 Macker

And don't forget Killer Klowns from Outer Space!

What about Nature Trail to Hell (in 3-D!)?

331 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:48:07pm

re: #317 Jimmah

The End

/Los Endos

332 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:48:10pm

This is a great video by an Iraqi vet. This brought a lump to my throat. He really gives the strongest argument as to why McCain is the only choice if you love your freedom.

Link

333 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:49:06pm

re: #314 Colonel Panik

How about a little John Kerry moment..."Do the Lurch"

Lurch made more sense in that than anything that idiot Kerry's ever said.

334 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:49:23pm

That was my first try at a link. Let me try again.

Link...

335 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:49:41pm

re: #270 US Navy Wife

You know we've got your back. My Army boys have much appreciation for the Navys backing them.

336 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:03pm

re: #321 Colonel Panik

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

Sorry, you are right.

It is quite annoying that people would object to a an American who does all he can to protect the people who would otherwise have died in the service of the nation. What do these people think they are teaching children?

337 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:19pm

Guys, this is a link from Redstate from a purported Obama operative. It is very long, but if you read only one blogpost from here until Tuesday, make it this one. It confirms everything I personally, instinctively, have felt is true.

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

Extract:

I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy the gossip or the attention directed my way. I’m doing this because I doubt much of you know the true weaknesses of Obama. Another reason for my doing this is that I am lost faith in this campaign, and feel that this choice has been forced on many people in this country. Put simply, you are being manipulated. That was and is our job – to manipulate you (the electorate) and the media (we already had them months ago). Our goal is to create chaos with the other side, not hope. I’ve come to the realization (as the campaign already has) that if this comes to the issues, Barack Obama doesn’t have a chance. His only chance is to foster disorganization, chaos, despair, and a sense of inevitability among the Republicans. It has worked up until now. Joe the Plumber has put the focus on the issues again, and this scares us more than anything. Being in a position to know these things, I will rate what the Obama campaign already knows are their weak links from the most important on down. [...]

4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe these polls for a second. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”. The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico. The reason for such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread well over this mark. This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is
the “hip” choice, and we all know it. [...]

As part of my research duties, I scour right wing blogs and websites to get somewhat of a “feel” as to what is being talked about on the other side. Much of it is nonsense, but there are some exceptions which give the campaign jitters. A spirited campaign has been made to infiltrate many pro-Hillary sites and discredit them. A more disorganized, but genuine effort has also been made to sow doubts among the unapologetically right wing sites such as redstate.com. Don’t you guys get it? This has been the Obama campaign’s sole strategy from the very beginning! The only way he wins is over a dispirited, disorganized, and demobilized opposition. [...]

Grain of salt of course, but you know, I kinda believe this.

338 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:42pm

re: #222 oh_dude

My wife have been annual passholders for Disneyland for like 10 years and I think we've gone every single year.

It's like an annual pilgrimage for all the Goth-type high school kids. Very cool. Definitely put it on your list.

how can Disneyland be the happiest place on earth when there isn't a bar on every corner?

339 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:48pm

re: #224 wolfie Me too - but since he's already 84 and can't have many friends left in the Senate or Alaska, I wonder who would replace him - would the Govenor of Alaska appoint an interim Senator for the rest of his term?
Hell, I don't even know who is gonna be the new Govenor of Alaska after January 20, 2009!

340 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:51pm

re: #267 Promethea

That was my question too.....Danger from whom? They should tell us who's threatening them. That certainly would be newsworthy.

Yup. First, how does releasing the tape reveal the source's identity? Presumably, the mere mention of the tape's existence narrows it down to those folks who were carrying a video camera that night, or who had access to the official videographer if there was one. So anyone who wanted to find the source and do them harm probably could manage that right now.

Second, who would want to find the source and do them harm?

Third, why would they want to do harm to the source any more avidly if the tape were released that they presumably do now? Now that the world knows that the tape exists and knows a little of its content, the Pandora's box is open -- you'd think that if leaking the tape was a dangerous thing to do, then the mere public reporting of its existence would trigger the dangerous response.

Best thing to do is to report that someone else has a transcript of the tape -- not a video copy -- and publish juicy excerpts from that transcript. That puts the LA Times in the position of having to put forward evidence to prove those excerpts are fabricated, which it can only do by releasing the tape (or at least showing it to a trustworthy third party). If they tried to rely on a reporter's assertion that the excerpts aren't on the tape, the two word response to that is "Jayson Blair."

341 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:51:06pm

I like Genesis so here's two of my favorites:

One For The Vine

Ripples

I know they're repeats but, what the hell..

342 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:51:15pm

re: #329 Adina in Judea

Absolutely!

Go Likud/Netanyahu, too!

I've noticed that the latest meme from the left is that "Likud controls Israel" and we have to "de-Likudify" our entire "peace process" - and of course, Obama will do this.

I've never seen an Israeli party mentioned by name in leftie/Dem complaints about Israel until this week, and then suddenly in about five different places I see Obama supporters bitching about Likud. I wonder who created this particular bogeyman, and why.

343 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:12pm

re: #314 Colonel Panik

How about a little John Kerry moment..."Do the Lurch"

Ted Cassidy - the '60s version of Tony Robbins!
;)

344 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:44pm

Ray Charles sings "America The Beautiful" listen to it...So beautiful!

345 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:55pm

re: #337 vbspurs

I don't believe a word of this.

346 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:57pm

re: #286 Mel Lono

Some relevant quotes from John Adams, 2nd POTUS:

A desire to be observed, considered, esteemed, praised, beloved, and admired by his fellows is one of the earliest as well as the keenest dispositions discovered in the heart of man.

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Abuse of words has been the great instrument of sophistry and chicanery, of party, faction, and division of society.

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All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.

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Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion... in private self-defense.

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As much as I converse with sages and heroes, they have very little of my love and admiration. I long for rural and domestic scene, for the warbling of birds and the prattling of my children.

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Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.

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Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

347 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:53:08pm

re: #312 US Navy Wife

Here's another, gmsc.

OMG I love that song. I like to drive by, when there are any protests with the top down on my car and blast it! LOL They could egg me, but they can't key me.

BTW, I got keyed just for having a "Soldier's Angels, We Support the Troops" magnet and they stole the magnet too!

348 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:53:51pm

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

There are polls out there backing up your gut feeling. They are getting better. You should have heard Dick Morris on Hannity and Karl Rove on Sustern.

349 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:54:08pm

re: #335 legalpad

You know we've got your back. My Army boys have much appreciation for the Navys backing them.

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

350 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:09pm

re: #345 faraway

I don't believe a word of this.

Ah, disinformation you think? I was so happy with the internal polling stats.

351 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:16pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

From my family to yours: Thanks for your service~

352 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:18pm

Amazing Grace - Fallen heroes

Bagpipes.

Might want to have some tissues nearby.

353 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:28pm

re: #346 Steffan

All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.

And this is from a guy who witnessed the French Revolution, too. John, wherever you are, thank you, and I wish more people listened to you.

354 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:35pm

re: #309 realwest

I'll lay odds that someone in Shehags' campaign did it to get some attention. Cindy ain't beating Pelosi anyway, but if you look at the end of the article it says:

"SOURCE Cindy Sheehan; Cindy for Congress
Copyright 2008 PR Newswire. All Rights Reserved."

One can only fantasize that the catfight between Pelosi and Sheehan divides the lunatic vote and allows the Republican candidate Dana Walsh in through the side door. But that's only a fantasy.

355 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:56:01pm

re: #351 SurferDoc

Thank you, SurferDoc

356 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:57:27pm

re: #342 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've noticed that the latest meme from the left is that "Likud controls Israel" and we have to "de-Likudify" our entire "peace process" - and of course, Obama will do this.

I've never seen an Israeli party mentioned by name in leftie/Dem complaints about Israel until this week, and then suddenly in about five different places I see Obama supporters bitching about Likud. I wonder who created this particular bogeyman, and why.

Because Tzipi Livni failed to form a government, and now the Israelis are going to the polls -- so it's entirely possible that Bibi Netanyahu will become the next Prime Minister of Israel.

357 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:57:54pm

Wow I never thought I would say this but I long for the days of Kerry or even,bite my tongue, Hillary. Obama is so completely devoid of any qualifications to even be dog catcher. I can't even fathom his being considered for POTUS.

358 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:58:33pm

ACK. Need to get to bed or I'll lose the battle of wits in the High School tomorrow.

359 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:59:27pm

Here is the story of families protesting Petty Officer Dietz's statue in the town close to an elementary school.
[Link: washingtontimes.com...]
It's annoying, perhaps tomorrow they will begin to protest school visits to the National Mall in Washington D.C. because of the various monuments to American Veterans of our wars to preserve liverty all over the world.

360 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:59:41pm

re: #357 nigella

Wow I never thought I would say this but I long for the days of Kerry or even,bite my tongue, Hillary. Obama is so completely devoid of any qualifications to even be dog catcher. I can't even fathom his being considered for POTUS.

Of all the things I mind about Obama's candidacy, this is the most galling -- that he is so outrageously far-left, that he makes me long for the days of a champagne leftist like Kerry, or a volcanically corrupt pol like Hillary.

See, I know their kind of politician. But Obama? No, he's a cipher.

361 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:00:11pm

re: #321 Colonel Panik

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

which is likely full of Californians......

(much as it pains me to say it. %-)

362 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:00:21pm

re: #345 faraway

I don't believe a word of this.

Rush Limbaugh read it on his show Tuesday. I mentioned it during that thread.

363 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:01:09pm

re: #361 redc1c4

which is likely full of Californians......

(much as it pains me to say it. %-)

Californication. *spit*

/how come moonbats always spoil their environments they settle in?

364 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:01:27pm

re: #347 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm kinda partial to this song.

365 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:02:16pm

re: #361 redc1c4

Littleton? Nah. Actually, there wasn't many people protesting it and I could only find two people protesting it.

366 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:02:35pm

re: #362 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rush Limbaugh read it on his show Tuesday. I mentioned it during that thread.

Yes, I am just reading that on one of the blogs. I put it in the Spinoff links, not realising you had already linked!

367 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:02:48pm

re: #342 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've never seen an Israeli party mentioned by name in leftie/Dem complaints about Israel until this week, and then suddenly in about five different places I see Obama supporters bitching about Likud. I wonder who created this particular bogeyman, and why.

Actually, I've seen Likud described in insulting terms by the U.S. left (as if Likud is an extreme party that is a danger to world peace) prior to this week.

They're mentioning Likud a lot this week because Likud/Netanyahu have the best chance of winning and forming a government in February.

Kadima is neck and neck with Likud in the polls right now, but they don't have much of a chance (if at all) to form a government if they win. This will have an impact on Israel's voters in February.

Meanwhile, the Labor Party is expected to be almost totally decimated.

So Israel will most likely have a strong right wing government soon.

368 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:03:22pm

re: #361 redc1c4

which is likely full of Californians......

(much as it pains me to say it. %-)

The Californication of Colorado created the Coloradical.

369 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:03:57pm

re: #364 Steffan

I'm kinda partial to this song.

Great series of pictures with it, too.

370 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:04:23pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

Boy, is he ever "backing" them. You're right - the Navy does everything now. (I though he might fly a jet off a carrier. Ground troops regard a good air strike as real life-savers. It's sounds like he does just what my boys do. And your guy works with a dog finding weapons- wow. He may have already saved my boys from snipers.

371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:04:33pm

re: #366 vbspurs

Yes, I am just reading that on one of the blogs. I put it in the Spinoff links, not realising you had already linked!

No, I didn't link to it. I was here on LGF and home for lunch when he was reading it and mentioned it.

372 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:04:36pm

Echoes part 1
Greatest Halloween music ever. Have it looped for over an hour, leave the bowl of candy outside. Enjoy the evening.

373 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:05:02pm

re: #345 faraway

I don't believe a word of this.

Respectfully, faraway, can you share your reasoning?

Does the report NOT conform to your experience? Do you believe a dedicated Hillary democrat, working for Obama, cannot love America enough to decide AGAINST Obama?

What precisely leads you to believe the report is untrustworthy?

374 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:05:32pm

re: #371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, I didn't link to it. I was here on LGF and home for lunch when he was reading it and mentioned it.

Ah, I see. I'm curious about Faraway's visceral reaction against this otherwise well-written post. It was a quixotically knee-jerk reaction from a Lizard, IMO.

375 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:06pm

re: #373 Karridine

What precisely leads you to believe the report is untrustworthy?

I just posted something similar. It was an instantaneous reaction too.

376 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:10pm

re: #373 Karridine

Respectfully, faraway, can you share your reasoning?

Does the report NOT conform to your experience? Do you believe a dedicated Hillary democrat, working for Obama, cannot love America enough to decide AGAINST Obama?

What precisely leads you to believe the report is untrustworthy?

See my #362.

377 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:33pm

Echoes part 2 Pompei

378 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:37pm

re: #292 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I meant to mention that too. What a POS.

Jimmy Carter revealed the Stealth technology program publicly in order to give the appearance that he was standing strong against the Soviets (when he was, in fact, projecting weakness with all of his foreign policy initiatives). He outed the most important, most secret military-industrial technology development of its time simply to improve his chances of re-election... that, and possibly to give the Soviets a needed heads-up about a game-changing strategic threat. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that the GRU turned him when he was an officer in Admiral Rickover's nuclear Navy.

379 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:41pm

Hmmm, Hallowe'en music huh? I think Nick Cave has the sound for a good evening of spooky. :)

380 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:08:58pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

give him a big Bravo Zulu from this old GI.

381 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:08pm

re: #352 Gus 802

Tissues for sure. That hits me too close to homebut I'm glad you posted it. The pic is no longer online but it was of my nephew's l11 yr. old daughter putting a rose on her dad's flag covered coffin. We had a piper to play Amazing Grace. Bless the guy's heart, he was an Los Angeles city fireman and came all the way down to San Diego to play the pipes and didn't want to charge us. I remember forcing gas money on him. God Bless all of those who fight for our freedoms.

382 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:12pm

Amazing Grace - Statler Brothers

383 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:21pm

Well all y'all it's waaay past my bedtime here!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Good night, all.

384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:44pm

re: #374 vbspurs

Ah, I see. I'm curious about Faraway's visceral reaction against this otherwise well-written post. It was a quixotically knee-jerk reaction from a Lizard, IMO.

Rush was reading from Hillbuzz, which has been referenced here at LGF numerous times. And at the time we were talking about it, before Rush started reading it, and I posted that Rush had started talking about it.

385 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:50pm

Woot! Uniform green footballs are back again!

Greetings to the night crew!

386 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:56pm

re: #365 Gus 802

Littleton? Nah. Actually, there wasn't many people protesting it and I could only find two people protesting it.

and yet it made the national news......

/go figure

387 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:10:22pm

re: #318 realwest

I don't run it. I am a mid-level flunky. I started at the bottom and have worked my way up through the ranks.

We do market research.

I am very worried that Obamanomics will wipe us out. We can barely afford what we do as it is now.

I don't want to talk too much the companies specifics. I have to be mindful of the companies interest and my own. If/when I get laid of over the next couple of months, I will be a little freer to talk. But for now, I must be circumspect.

388 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:11:26pm

re: #370 legalpad

Boy, is he ever "backing" them. You're right - the Navy does everything now. (I though he might fly a jet off a carrier. Ground troops regard a good air strike as real life-savers. It's sounds like he does just what my boys do. And your guy works with a dog finding weapons- wow. He may have already saved my boys from snipers.

I am a Navy Corpsman, I was over there in 2006, working on a MITT in Taji (just north of Baghdad). We have many Navy people all over Iraq and Afghanistan and HOA in GWOT assignments. Right now I am in HOA (downrange), not up in Djibouti. This is likely going to be my last deployment before I retire. It's been a good ride and I have met some fantastic young people.

The stories we read in the media about America's youth being weak selfish and unprepared to deal with difficulties are being undermined by what I see everyday here in Africa. If most American's could see their children in these parts of the world where we are combating American enemies with the force of arms, by building schools and hospitals they would change their mind.

America's youth are as strong and as dedicated to the service of America, they would do the WWII generation proud. As a Navy CPO I am proud to serve with and lead them.

389 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:11:39pm

re: #385 Intrepid

Hey Intrepid, we are trying out that whole Marxist proletariat look thingie. ;)

390 Bummer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:11:48pm

Breaking News: New Election Dates Set

391 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:12:58pm

re: #364 Steffan

I'm kinda partial to this song.


That song kind of cheered me up. We need to play it through Tuesday.

392 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:00pm

Latest Report on McCain Sign Status on Commute Route of quickredfox:

The signs took a hit over the last couple of days and a couple are missing. The remaining ones (two small ones, and the two large ones) are battered but unbowed. This time someone had put some blue tape over one of the large ones (at first I thought it was blue paint), but by the time I got home from work the owner had taken the tape off so the sign was clear again, although the smaller signs that had been attached to it were gone. One of the smaller yard signs had a plastic covering over it but otherwise seemed fine. Another was torn a little, but on my nighttime mission run I brought some tape along and taped it up. The number of O signs on the route is back down to one. There had been another one on a certain corner with some local candidate signs, but apparently whoever owns that corner didn't want any signs there. All the signs were gone from there a day or so after the O sign went up, and haven't reappeared.

It has been windy and a little rainy today and some of the miscellaneous candidate signs have been taking a beating. I expect all the smaller signs of every candidate will get a whacking tonight as the wind is rising and it is supposed to rain some more. The two big homemade McCain signs are set pretty solid so I expect they will hold up fine, and maybe lefty will stay inside and leave them alone.

393 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:20pm

re: #386 redc1c4

Perhaps it was the Columbine angle so the news media took the ball and ran with it.

394 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:23pm

Re the Iowahawk brilliance a few threads down:
(and he is some kind of damn genius, Charles, damn straight...) the distressing thing is that as funny as this is as a parody, it explained something I've wondered about for the past few weeks: why a few good friends who have always voted Republican, who have much to lose from the BHO redistribution strategy, and who love this country, are going to vote for him.
It makes me sad, frustrates me, ticks me off at them, but at least now I know from whence the madness springs. It's a latent snobbery that has reared its ugly head, and they don't even realize it.... would deny it.
Please let their kids branch out, marry into a Palin-esque gene pool, and dilute the brain-fogging blue sludge flowing through their veins.
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

395 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:44pm

re: #337 vbspurs

Guys, this is a link from Redstate from a purported Obama operative.

On a Hillary blog, there is a postscript from this same purported operative. Again, grain of salt.

I was going to write a long response to validate and defend myself, but I just don’t feel that its necessary. I am sorry some feel offended by my post. I have no shame or guilt, we all have careers but don’t necessarily agree with the boss. My duties are so benign and clerical that I don’t have a hand in what I feel is a “game”. The “game” as I see it is much like a play on vanity, its a ruffle up your feathers to appear larger kind of game. The campaign is now nearing 1 billion dollars, a 1 billion dollar campaign. Can you imagine, if 1 little girl came forth and tried to take on that kind of establishment. I am not the person for that, and its not possible for me to do without implosion. I am not sure I can offer much up that would take notice in the MSM and get reported. My story would not make news, its not newsworthy. Its not illegal, the ideas I am suggesting. Its smoke and mirrors, sure. Its playing with emotions, absolutely. But, to the masses and to the pundits it would be viewed as “campaigning” and you would be told that it was just Obama being the “better” campaigner.

The truth is simple. The idea is to appear as a winner. To deflate your opponent. To overwhelm your opponent. To confuse your opponent. And to own the airwaves. There was a mass coordination on foreigners to visit online sites and vote to declare who won in the debates. Did you notice that John Mccain seemed to lose and lose badly every time. Where did all those voters come from?

[...]This election is down to a candidate that wants to win for his own desires and down to a candidate that wants to win for the country. Don’t allow yourself to be told what is right by anyone, review the facts, take a long good look at the candidate and decide what you believe is the right choice for us, for everyone in the united states. Your vote is your vote. Don’t allow a massive machine to feed you the answer.

I wrote the initial post to tell everyone to remain calm, stay firm in your convictions, vote with your heart don’t let the news and polls keep you and your will down. The news channels, the advertisements, the polls, are not the truth. They are not the truth. The truth is inside the people. Don’t be discouraged, and don’t give up.

And please, just ignore any oppositional voice on any forum, youtube, etc. Ask yourself one question, would there really be this much activity and opposition all on its own? Or were they sent, was this their mission? What seems more plausible?

How about the polls, how were the skewed? Take a look at the internals, always. But, above that think about something. How wold a polling company get paid? How would this be a viable business just on its own? They get paid by networks, ever notice how every two hours there is a pollster being interviewed and talking about his polls. Ever notice, the polls one day will have Barack Obama leading by 12, then the next day leading by 5, then the next day up to 8. How is that possible? Think about just one poll, that has Barack up 13 points, how badly would that destroy the average? [...]

396 I heart the USA  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:00pm

re: #301 nigella

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

I feel exactly the same. I don't know exactly why. I think maybe it's from the anecdotal stories of closet Mac supporters I read on blogs. There are so many of these stories, even if only a fraction are true. Sad day when American citizens feel forced to lie about or conceal their political views. I'm going with the Silenced [sic] Majority theory.

I, along with many of my friends, haven't displayed Mac bumper stickers or signs, and my area is quite a conservative area of SoCal (there are a few, LOL). To make up for my cowardice I have donated hundreds to Mac, plus a c note 3 days ago to Nat'l Repub. Trust which is running the Wright ad.

I'm trusting my gut!

397 Redline  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:12pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

On behalf of myself and friends, a big THANK YOU to your husband and yourself.

398 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:23pm

re: #385 Intrepid

Woot! Uniform green footballs are back again!

Greetings to the night crew!

Charles turned all of our avatars because of the higher traffic expected at LGF in the morning and as 11/4 gets closer.

399 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:26pm

re: #379 BlueCanuck

Maybe the video would scare the kids from the door. But not enough close on fear factor.

400 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:46pm

re: #390 Bummer

Breaking News: New Election Dates Set

Careful with that! You could confuse NBC viewers!

401 RTLM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:48pm

McCain to be on SNL.
link

He better make good use of the time - since he can’t afford a 6 network media dry hump. If he does as well as he did at that fancy dinner in NYC, it will help. If he doesn't its just more free ratings for NBC.

402 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:56pm

re: #384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rush was reading from Hillbuzz, which has been referenced here at LGF numerous times. And at the time we were talking about it, before Rush started reading it, and I posted that Rush had started talking about it.

Gotcha. Not too sure what this has to do with Faraway's reactions though. Did s/he mention something negative after your post, which I inadvertently triggered?

403 lummox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:15:48pm

I'm lummox and I approve this message.

404 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:15:57pm

re: #401 RTLM

I saw that this afternoon and thought "great news." It's a great opportunity for him. Others might disagree but what the hay.

405 rosenblumenthal  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:16:27pm

My friend's friend is baking Obama-themed cakes. I'm a little embarassed for my generation. Being on a college campus won't be fun on Election Day...

406 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:16:34pm

re: #369 quickredfox

The same poster also posted tributes to William Tecumseh Sherman and Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. Incredible pictures.

407 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:03pm

re: #402 vbspurs

Gotcha. Not too sure what this has to do with Faraway's reactions though. Did s/he mention something negative after your post, which I inadvertently triggered?

Honestly, I do not remember. Don't even know if he/she was there.

408 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:06pm

re: #401 RTLM

He better make good use of the time - since he can’t afford a 6 network media dry hump. If he does as well as he did at that fancy dinner in NYC, it will help. If he doesn't its just more free ratings for NBC.

Oh yes! I forgot to post this on my own blog. Carl Cameron broke the news during Shep's newscast.

I remember thinking that Obama is playing it cool, and that McCain gained momentum after his absolutely hilarious Alfred E. Smith Dinner roast. Let's hope he scores another bull's eye.

409 RTLM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:46pm

btw: LARGE improvement in LGF speed and handling with the Green clangers in the stead of the fancy icons.

410 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:50pm

re: #383 realwest

Goodnight, Realwest. We'll see you down the road for sure. Take care.

411 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:50pm

re: #405 rosenblumenthal

My friend's friend is baking Obama-themed cakes. I'm a little embarassed for my generation. Being on a college campus won't be fun on Election Day...

Remember, you may be running for president one day, so you'll need to make at least 2-3 friends whose associations can later embarrass you!

412 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:18:00pm

re: #407 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Honestly, I do not remember. Don't even know if he/she was there.

Aha. So far, silence. Interesting.

413 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:19:08pm

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world. But I think it will be closer than some think. Obama's first act will be to destroy the military because he knows that it must be done quickly. Clinton did the same thing, humbled the generals, delayed programs, failed to appoint heads, canceled what he could.
Wonderful.

414 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:19:56pm

re: #413 pat

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world.

?

415 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:16pm

The big shock on Tuesday will be when New Hampshire, Iowa and Maine go to McCain!

416 RTLM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:20pm

re: #413 pat

/Gee thanks pat.

417 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:22pm

re: #402 vbspurs

Gotcha. Not too sure what this has to do with Faraway's reactions though. Did s/he mention something negative after your post, which I inadvertently triggered?

But to me it sounds very plausible. There's also the post from a former speechwriter for Obama who became so disillusioned with the attacks upon Sarah Palin she quit and said she's voting for McCain/Palin. That I'm not sure about.

418 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:42pm

re: #405 rosenblumenthal

My friend's friend is baking Obama-themed cakes. I'm a little embarassed for my generation. Being on a college campus won't be fun on Election Day...


So don't be there.

If your folks live close by and if they are relatively sane, go see them. Spend the night. relax. Let the madness pass.

If that won't fly, then you could always gather some friends and go on a road trip. Winter camping is not half bad so long as you take warm clothes and lots of food.

Do not lose heart. We could still win this.

419 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:21:04pm

re: #415 gmsc

The big shock on Tuesday will be when New Hampshire, Iowa and Maine go to McCain!

I am getting silently confident about your Maine prediction, GMSC. But NH, I am almost sure...

420 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:22:26pm

Sorry for the prediction, but i think it true. Romney or Giuliani could have done it, but not McCain. I have no special insight, but I do not know an insider that thinks McCain can pull this off. He is about as well liked as Dole.

421 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:23:33pm

re: #413 pat

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world. But I think it will be closer than some think. Obama's first act will be to destroy the military because he knows that it must be done quickly. Clinton did the same thing, humbled the generals, delayed programs, failed to appoint heads, canceled what he could.
Wonderful.

You are a moron. Here's a clue. Don't duck when it attempts to hit you upside your head. When you post, try to make sense. I don't know why I'm wasting my time, but I will. Does the entire world vote in our elections, genius?

422 rosenblumenthal  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:24:03pm

re: #418 Syrah

I think I'm going to watch the election with my Republican boyfriend.

He believes in making money the old-fashioned way...working hard.

423 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:24:15pm

re: #405 rosenblumenthal

Baking BHO-themed cakes? How hopeful and change-y of her! Upside down cakes? Dump Cakes? White Devils' Food? ....Pound of flesh cake? ....Tunnel of Sludge, Fruitcake..........
I could go on.

424 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:24:28pm

re: #420 pat

Even with a 3% gap in the polls? Even with slightly higher numbers against Obama on the economy? Even with higher numbers on national security?

Also taking into account that this is not a Republican year by the closest of margins and McCain should in fact be behind, in theory, by up to 30 percentage points.

425 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:24:36pm

re: #420 pat

Not so sure. Romney would have been slammed for being rich and out of touch with the masses and for his Mormonism. Rudy would be slammed for his personal life, and all kinds of stories would have come out about his tenure as mayor. Plus he would not be approved of by the base.

426 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:25:49pm

re: #413 pat

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world. But I think it will be closer than some think. Obama's first act will be to destroy the military because he knows that it must be done quickly. Clinton did the same thing, humbled the generals, delayed programs, failed to appoint heads, canceled what he could.
Wonderful.

Don't freak me out. I am keeping the absolutely fabulously positive thoughts.

I won't even know the best or the worst until around 11:00 pm on Tues. as I am working the election in a dem precinct. I plan to drink either way. LOL

427 I heart the USA  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:25:52pm

re: #413 pat

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world. .

Has Acorn/Obama figured out a way for them to vote absentee?

I would say 'Fuck the rest of the world' that hates us, but most of them aren't worth a fuck. If they don't like us we must be doing something right.

428 Spirit93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:26:27pm

re: #420 pat

Dole was not running against Obama and 2008 is not 1996.

429 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:26:39pm

re: #412 vbspurs

Not necessarily referring to anyone but, I wonder if it occurs to any of these lefties that conservatives are actually in the majority in the United States? I mean, they know they steal at least 10% of the vote every election. They won't admit to it, but they know it. Most of the Obama supporters I know, know they lie their heads off, and some of them think it's funny, some of the others seem to realize it can discredit their supposed goals. They know 61,000,000 or so voted for Bush in '04. They are special interests deceiving ignorant masses and they know it.

Note: McCain leading in Texas.

430 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:26:50pm

Since this is an open thread, I have to say that the creators of The Venture Brothers display some sort of undervalued genius. Besides having pretty much anyone on the show aside from the title charachters curse like sailors (which is dutifully bleeped out) they've also taken the opportunity to bleep out what year in the somewhat ambiguous past a flashback is taking place in.....

431 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:26:53pm

re: #413 pat

Um pat? WTF lizard? Did someone slip some Obanal Koolaid in the water bottles? Is there a doctor in the house?

432 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:27:42pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

i'm just amazed that the Navy could train a Marine to sniff out explosives......

(at least without trying to eat them. %-)

/white smoke

433 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:27:46pm

re: #425 neocon hippie

Yes, big time on Rudy. Or at least that was the plan from many sectors of the DNC machine. In fact I was reviewing some images of Eric Soltz this afternoon why wanted to take part in that.

Additionally, Giuliani did lose in the end as did Romney. I like both men and was an initial supporter of Rudy.

434 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:27:52pm

re: #422 rosenblumenthal

I think I'm going to watch the election with my Republican boyfriend.

He believes in making money the old-fashioned way...working hard.


That should do.

When you are back on campus, keep a cool head. It will likely be a bit crazy no matter which way the election goes.

435 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:29:15pm
A rage for paper money, for an abolition of debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other improper or wicked project, will be less apt to pervade the whole body of the Union than a particular member of it; in the same proportion as such a malady is more likely to taint a particular county or district, than an entire State.

In the extent and proper structure of the Union, therefore, we behold a republican remedy for the diseases most incident to republican government. And according to the degree of pleasure and pride we feel in being republicans, ought to be our zeal in cherishing the spirit and supporting the character of Federalists.

PUBLIUS.
Fed .10


This is the End

436 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:29:20pm

re: #320 Gus 802

Look at the source...not a USGS seismograph monitor but the Iranian Institute of Geophysics.
Parameters: nothing there.
Location uncertainty: error estimate not available.

Hmmmm.

We don't know where the seismographic sensors are that reported this. The Iranians could be feeding USGS bs data. From the way I read this report the data aren't coming from USGS sensors.

Band -e- Kong is 8.72 miles from the alleged test site, according to the google earth map.

I'm not 100% certain it is a test but no one here yet has convinced me 100% that it isn't either.

I'm going to sleep on this one and I will see you all in the AM.

But I think I'm going to have to have a little nightcap after this.
There's still a few glasses left in the Isle of Jura bottle.

437 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:29:21pm

re: #420 pat

Sorry for the prediction, but i think it true. Romney or Giuliani could have done it, but not McCain. I have no special insight, but I do not know an insider that thinks McCain can pull this off. He is about as well liked as Dole.

Please take your doom-and-gloom predictions and as Martha Stewart said on Cavuto, suck it in.

438 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:29:45pm

*They can take our avatars...but they will never take OUR FREEDOM!*

/Ok, I'm better now...

439 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:29:56pm

Just a reminder: In the US we set our clocks back one hour late Saturday/early Sunday morning.

Just your friendly public service announcement.

440 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:29:56pm

re: #420 pat

Sorry for the prediction, but i think it true. Romney or Giuliani could have done it, but not McCain. I have no special insight, but I do not know an insider that thinks McCain can pull this off. He is about as well liked as Dole.

You're right. In fact, 0bama is so inevitable, he doesn't need a single additional voter. Let's get the word out that 0bama has enough votes to defeat McCain already!

Heck, 0bama's so inevitable, we could get a massive McCain effort out, and it shouldn't worry 0bama!

Remember, 0bama voters, relax! Don't worry about your vote. After all, what can happen to an inevitable messiah?

441 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:30:27pm

re: #393 Gus 802

Perhaps it was the Columbine angle so the news media took the ball and ran with it.

doubt that.... it was the war is bad, we should pull out angle

442 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:30:57pm

I'm outta here folks. Have a great night/morning. Talk to you all later! Except Pat, until he/she gets an attitude adjustment. WE WILL WIN!

443 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:31:00pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

Sounds like disinformation to me. It's my understanding that an underground nuke blast will have a different signature on a seismograph recording than a natural earthquake. If it were really a nuke test, I expect you'd be hearing plenty from India, China, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and from official sources in Israel, too. Probably just Iranian bloviating in an effort to un-nerve Israelis.

444 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:31:03pm

re: #440 gmsc

After all, what can happen to an inevitable messiah?

You mean predeortained.

445 capitalist piglet  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:31:34pm

re: #388 shanec99

I am a Navy Corpsman, I was over there in 2006, working on a MITT in Taji (just north of Baghdad). We have many Navy people all over Iraq and Afghanistan and HOA in GWOT assignments. Right now I am in HOA (downrange), not up in Djibouti. This is likely going to be my last deployment before I retire. It's been a good ride and I have met some fantastic young people.

The stories we read in the media about America's youth being weak selfish and unprepared to deal with difficulties are being undermined by what I see everyday here in Africa. If most American's could see their children in these parts of the world where we are combating American enemies with the force of arms, by building schools and hospitals they would change their mind.

America's youth are as strong and as dedicated to the service of America, they would do the WWII generation proud. As a Navy CPO I am proud to serve with and lead them.

shanec99, my father was a Navy Corpsman attached to the 4th Marine Division in the battle for Iwo Jima. I just wanted to thank you for your service - we believe in all of you, and we're so grateful to you all.

446 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:31:35pm

re: #439 Intrepid

Ugh, thanks for reminding me. :(

/thirteen hour shift to look forward too. :p

447 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:31:41pm

re: #413 pat

She is strung to - - - the hatred of the entire world.

With all due respect, this is a moronic statement.

448 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:31:51pm

re: #439 Intrepid

Just a reminder: In the US we set our clocks back one hour late Saturday/early Sunday morning.

Just your friendly public service announcement.

Not here in Ari-by-G_d-zona we don't.

449 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:32:02pm

re: #388 shanec99

I am a Navy Corpsman, I was over there in 2006, working on a MITT in Taji (just north of Baghdad). We have many Navy people all over Iraq and Afghanistan and HOA in GWOT assignments. Right now I am in HOA (downrange), not up in Djibouti. This is likely going to be my last deployment before I retire. It's been a good ride and I have met some fantastic young people.

The stories we read in the media about America's youth being weak selfish and unprepared to deal with difficulties are being undermined by what I see everyday here in Africa. If most American's could see their children in these parts of the world where we are combating American enemies with the force of arms, by building schools and hospitals they would change their mind.

America's youth are as strong and as dedicated to the service of America, they would do the WWII generation proud. As a Navy CPO I am proud to serve with and lead them.

Post that deserves to be repeated. Thank you for your service to our country!

450 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:32:30pm

re: #441 redc1c4

Probably so. The anti-war media meme that never seems to end even to this day given the successes of today and the hope for a better Iraq within Iraq.

451 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:32:49pm

re: #388 shanec99

Thank you for your service!

452 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:33:10pm

re: #398 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Charles turned all of our avatars because of the higher traffic expected at LGF in the morning and as 11/4 gets closer.

a thinking man would wonder what's going to be poasted first thing.....

or at least an experienced EM would wonder.

/white smoke!

453 least  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:33:11pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Thanks for the link Noam!
Your linked song led to another song which led to another son which led to another . . .
Man! Memories upon memories.

McCain/Palin
Likud/Netanyahu

Hold back the darkness!

454 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:33:47pm

re: #420 pat

Sorry for the prediction, but i think it true. Romney or Giuliani could have done it, but not McCain. I have no special insight, but I do not know an insider that thinks McCain can pull this off. He is about as well liked as Dole.

And how many 'insiders' believed George Bush could win in 2004?

455 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:33:51pm

re: #447 legalpad

And the writer is safety-wired to stupid.......

456 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:34:22pm

re: #439 Intrepid

Just a reminder: In the US we set our clocks back one hour late Saturday/early Sunday morning.

Just your friendly public service announcement.

Just a reminder to the Democrats: In the US we set our calendars back one day late Saturday/early Sunday morning.

Just your friendly public service announcement.
;)

457 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:34:40pm

re: #405 rosenblumenthal

My friend's friend is baking Obama-themed cakes. I'm a little embarassed for my generation. Being on a college campus won't be fun on Election Day...

with the right attitude, it'll be hysterical......

/too bad you'll have to hold it in. %-)

458 I heart the USA  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:35:10pm

re: #448 Colonel Panik

Evening, Colonel! Any truth to those rumors that some polls were showing Mac up in your fair state by only 4 or so points?

459 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:35:41pm

re: #452 redc1c4

(..and mirrors).

460 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:37:14pm

As every single pundit pointed out tonight on TV, McCain seems out of touch, has incredibly poor opposition research, and does not seem to be aware of or be able to counter the talking point of the day, often generated by a very biased press, that he feels he has some simpatico. But he is wrong. Obama does not even talk to the press. he glides by.

The national polls are much tighter than the battleground polls. The Justice Department has ignored voter fraud to the extent that it is now accepted with government complicity, e.g., Ohio. So I think we shall see a tight national vote, and an electoral victory for Obama. I am not happy about this. it is orchestrated and America has apparently accepted the complete subversion of its voting system. Obama ran as the world candidate that will disarm America and dispossess Americans, and about 50% of Americans want that to occur. Did any of you read Peggy Noonan's colum today? She seems gleeful with the prospect that America will be more obeisant to world opinion with Obama.

461 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:37:45pm

I kinda miss my avatar.

:(

462 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:38:27pm

Well, guys, it's late and the convo seems a little slow tonight. I hope to see you tomorrow in your Halloween costumes.

I'm coming as a dead-tired early voter, because that's what I'll be tomorrow. ;)

463 lummox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:38:34pm

Regarding Daylight Saving. Only a democrat would believe that you could cut a foot off of the bottom of a blanket, sew it on the top and end up with a longer blanket.

464 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:38:45pm

re: #388 shanec99

I am a Navy Corpsman, I was over there in 2006, working on a MITT in Taji (just north of Baghdad). We have many Navy people all over Iraq and Afghanistan and HOA in GWOT assignments. Right now I am in HOA (downrange), not up in Djibouti. This is likely going to be my last deployment before I retire. It's been a good ride and I have met some fantastic young people.

The stories we read in the media about America's youth being weak selfish and unprepared to deal with difficulties are being undermined by what I see everyday here in Africa. If most American's could see their children in these parts of the world where we are combating American enemies with the force of arms, by building schools and hospitals they would change their mind.

America's youth are as strong and as dedicated to the service of America, they would do the WWII generation proud. As a Navy CPO I am proud to serve with and lead them.

God Bless you Shane, and Navy Wife and hubby too. You are laying it all on the line for the rest of us. My ultimate thanks and respect.

'Nite, Lizards. I am out. In case you younger lizards have never heard of our departed ObiWan......play nice and don't post anything that's not credible.

Love you all.

465 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:39:02pm

re: #460 pat

Patience pat, patience. It is not lost until McCain concedes. *snicker* Yeah, that old fighter conceding? Old warriors never die. . . . . .

/besides when did you believe anything the MSM said about anything.

//still go out and look up when they tell me the sky is blue.

466 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:39:02pm

I think it is a measure of how bogus all of last months polling was, that nobody in the press has made that much of deal about Obama's loss of a substantial lead in the last couple of days. Instead, they just drivel on about how the race has tightened up.

Tightened up my ass. The polls have been buggered from the get go. Bad weighting. screwy assumptions. guesswork based on hopes. All with the intent of making it look like Obama was an inevitability.

Hooey.

The polling companies know that their reputations are dependent on having as close to an actual election result prediction as possible. The closer we get to election day, the less they will screw with their numbers.

Obama's numbers will continue to decline.

Get every McCain voter that you know to the polls and we can still win this.

467 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:39:07pm

re: #462 vbspurs

Well, guys, it's late and the convo seems a little slow tonight. I hope to see you tomorrow in your Halloween costumes.

I'm coming as a dead-tired early voter, because that's what I'll be tomorrow. ;)

I don't even have an avatar to wear!

468 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:39:18pm

Gloom, despair and agony on me
Deep dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for bad luck
I'd have no luck at all
Gloom, despair and agony on me...

469 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:39:42pm

re: #460 pat

The national polls are much tighter than the battleground polls. The Justice Department has ignored voter fraud to the extent that it is now accepted with government complicity, e.g., Ohio. So I think we shall see a tight national vote, and an electoral victory for Obama.

Please tell Axelrod our astroturf doesn't need mowing.

470 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:39:46pm

re: #464 Pvt Bin Jammin

I didn't see you at the Conrad Bldg. this evening.

471 I heart the USA  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:40:27pm

re: #460 pat
Did any of you read Peggy Noonan's colum today? She seems gleeful with the prospect that America will be more obeisant to world opinion with Obama.

Peggy needs to be strip-searched and thoroughly checked for a mind-control implant. Any volunteers?

472 LeePro  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:40:51pm

re: #392 quickredfox

Be glad it wasn't/isn't your own city officials ripping up your signs!

473 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:41:02pm

re: #460 pat

As every single pundit pointed out tonight on TV

THIS is your problem, Pat...

The US Media (TV) is on record for doing /saying ALL IT CAN to get Obama elected.

Their 'reports' are poisonous propaganda, designed to dishearten ... Americans like you.

474 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:41:38pm

My friend's Mom switched her mind to McCain tonight. Too bad I live in CA.

475 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:41:38pm

If Obama wins, look for his opponents to behave themselves and act like American citizens.

If McCain wins, look for an invasion of lawyers and professional intimidators to demand review of every single ballot. "How could this be!" they will screech. Just you watch.

476 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:41:54pm

re: #463 lummox

Don't know if it was a democrat. But it was to make the most use of daylight hours. Besides it was an englishman that came up with it.

477 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:42:46pm

re: #438 SurferDoc

*They can take our avatars...but they will never take OUR FREEDOM!*

/Ok, I'm better now...

/psssst...... wanna buy an avatar?

478 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:42:51pm

re: #454 Karridine

An excellent point. Fridays poll had Bush ahead by one. But only one poll. And many had him behind, including the Zogby a few days before. BTW, there were recurrent rumors that the Rove poll showed Bush ahead. And I do think the Obama polls show the race much tighter. It is the electoral vote i worry about.

479 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:42:59pm

re: #461 DesertSage

Heh...we are all the same now. Kind of socialistist, don't you think? LOL

Want to go to the protes?. It's on again!

You can e=mail. I am out.

480 capitalistbaby  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:43:00pm

Found this somewhere...

Food for thought….
Pull out of Iraq ?
Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago ?
Body count in the last six months:292 killed (murdered) in Chicago 221 killed in Iraq….
Who Runs it?
Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin
Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.
Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,
Illinois House leader: Mike Madigan,
Illinois Atty. Gen.: Lisa Madigan, (daughter of Mike),
Chicago Mayor: Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)
Leadership in Illinois …..all Democrats.
Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago .Of course, they're all blaming each other! Can't blame Republicans; they're aren't any!
State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.
Cook County (Chicago ) sales tax - 10.25% highest in country.
(Look 'em up if you want).
Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.
This is the political culture that Obama comes from, in Illinois . And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us! Wake Up America

481 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:43:27pm

re: #394 tradewind

Re the Iowahawk brilliance a few threads down:
(and he is some kind of damn genius, Charles, damn straight...) the distressing thing is that as funny as this is as a parody, it explained something I've wondered about for the past few weeks: why a few good friends who have always voted Republican, who have much to lose from the BHO redistribution strategy, and who love this country, are going to vote for him.
It makes me sad, frustrates me, ticks me off at them, but at least now I know from whence the madness springs. It's a latent snobbery that has reared its ugly head, and they don't even realize it.... would deny it.
Please let their kids branch out, marry into a Palin-esque gene pool, and dilute the brain-fogging blue sludge flowing through their veins.
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

I tend to think it's not the snobbery, it's the secret desire to see the Republican Party ground under the heel of the Democrats, in the (IMO, misguided) belief that it's just that type of tough medicine that the Party needs to rebuild itself for future victory. The problem is that some of the people who want that rebuilding are Rockefeller Republican snobs who want to purge the Party of Bible-thumpin' hicks, and others of them are orthodox Conservatives who want to purge the Party of Rockefeller Republican snobs.

An Obama victory is too risky for America, especially if coupled with big Democrat majorities in Congress. It seems to me that it would be far better to learn how to reform the Party in victory than to rely on a reformation happening in defeat, because the latter could take decades before it paid off in a return to power.

482 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:43:54pm

re: #439 Intrepid

Just a reminder: In the US we set our clocks back one hour late Saturday/early Sunday morning.

Just your friendly public service announcement.

could we please roll them ahead one spring and then just leave them there?

483 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:43:56pm

Red doesn't look so intimidating without his avatar.

.....hehe

484 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:43:59pm

re: #471 I heart the USA

She's taking out state-dinner insurance.... what...me, outcast to Siberia for four-mebbe-eight years with no A-list invites? As if......

485 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:44:22pm

re: #465 BlueCanuck

true enough old friend. and I will do my part. already voted, but my blog articles are already written.

486 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:44:43pm

re: #482 redc1c4

Hear hear. That sounds like an excellent plan too me.

487 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:44:57pm

re: #460 pat

As every single pundit pointed out tonight on TV, McCain seems out of touch, has incredibly poor opposition research, and does not seem to be aware of or be able to counter the talking point of the day, often generated by a very biased press, that he feels he has some simpatico. But he is wrong. Obama does not even talk to the press. he glides by.

The national polls are much tighter than the battleground polls. The Justice Department has ignored voter fraud to the extent that it is now accepted with government complicity, e.g., Ohio. So I think we shall see a tight national vote, and an electoral victory for Obama. I am not happy about this. it is orchestrated and America has apparently accepted the complete subversion of its voting system. Obama ran as the world candidate that will disarm America and dispossess Americans, and about 50% of Americans want that to occur. Did any of you read Peggy Noonan's colum today? She seems gleeful with the prospect that America will be more obeisant to world opinion with Obama.

Pooh. Pundits. You believe what you want. Every time I see one of your posts it is gloom and doom. Either you are the most pessimistic being on your neck of the woods or you just want some attention. ;-)>

McCain and Palin will win the electoral college. McCain and Palin will win the popular vote. It won't be a landslide but it will be convincing.

488 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:45:16pm

To all who say thank you, it has been my pleasure as an immigrant to wear America's uniform. It has been my pleasure to be promoted and given the opportunity to shape the people who will take my place when I leave the service.

Service to America is a wonderful opportunity to be a part of a continuous fabric that stretches back to the Revolutionary War and continues unbroken today. This fabric is strengthened by the deeds of men like Micheal Monsoor and many unknown heroes. I stand in awe off all that these young men have done and the parents who raised them and instilled in them the values that made them into the young men and women they are today.

Let the tofu eating naysayers who drink $10 cups of coffee and sit around debating and finding ways to undermine the efforts our young people demonstrate every day be aware. It is the young people whom you denigrate who give you the opportunity to enjoy the freedoms you do, and they sacrifice their bodies and die everyday to ensure that you have that freedom.

489 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:45:38pm

re: #483 DesertSage

Wait till he gets into the fruitcup.

/might be going to ground shortly, besides we need all the anti-koolaid we can get.

490 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:45:54pm

I'm getting hungry. How much longer 'til fruitcup? :D

491 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:05pm

Hello LGF, how's the late shift?
I heard a disturbing talk on the market meltdown by John Manley, a former Liberal Deputy Prime Minister of Canada. He foresees serious capitalization problems over the next two years for corporations which have defined benefit employee pension plans. Many of these pension plan assets are heavily invested in equities and as such suddenly find themselves seriously under-capitalized. According to Manley, this looming liquidity problem will divert capital away from needed investment in plant and equipment.
What he didn't mention was that the defined contribution plans, while not presenting the same liquidity problems for corporate employers, will nonetheless mean reduced benefits for pensioners due to the seriously reduced income stream which will inevitably follow from the market meltdown.
How many hundreds of billions will it take to bail out the pension plans?
And during the coming recession where will the money come from to fund health insurance reform and enhancements to public education funding? Will Obama try to tax the battered economy into oblivion?
It seems to me that Obama's entire platform is headed under the bus, and if elected he will immediately be forced to backpedal on virtually all of his election promises.
Yet according to the polls the stupid Dem rats seem likely to blindly follow their beloved pied piper over the cliff.
Amazing.

492 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:11pm

re: #474 TheMatrix31

My friend's Mom switched her mind to McCain tonight. Too bad I live in CA.

There was another LGFer whose wife had argued for 0bama throughout the whole election. Earlier this week, when they went to vote, she got into the both and she couldn't do it - she voted for McCain!

It'll be interesting to see how much of this happens.

(Could you imagine the faces on the evening news if McCain took CA? Yeah, I doubt it will happen too, but just imagine if it did - their looks would be priceless. Come to think of it, so would 0bama's!)

493 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:22pm

re: #490 Boogberg

2 hours and 14 minutes. Patience.

494 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:38pm

re: #460 pat

How does this help? What actionable items can we extract from it to help achieve a McCain/Palin victory?

If it doesn't help in that regard, it's worse than useless to post it now; save it for Wednesday.

495 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:43pm

Now this is funny.

You Suck at Photoshop

496 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:44pm

re: #483 DesertSage

Red doesn't look so intimidating without his avatar.

.....hehe

heh, brown smoke for you, no doubt.
nite

497 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:46:56pm

re: #487 Outrider

Nonsense. I am a cheerful person at heart.

498 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:47:00pm

re: #446 BlueCanuck

Ugh, thanks for reminding me. :(

/thirteen hour shift to look forward too. :p

Sorry, Blue. But you'll make it up in the spring! And it'll be nice because Vice President Palin will be there for ya'll!

499 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:47:15pm

re: #482 redc1c4

could we please roll them ahead one spring and then just leave them there?

You can do that sooner that you think. Wait until spring, move your clock forward, and the move to Arizona. You'll never have to rest your clock again!

500 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:47:15pm

re: #460 pat

She seems gleeful with the prospect that America will be more obeisant to world opinion with Obama.

Think about what we hear about "world opinion" and then ask yourself, "Where would most people of the world move to if they could?" What we are told "world opinion" is - is a crock, and anyone who doesn't just simply swallow everything they hear knows that.

501 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:47:37pm

re: #489 BlueCanuck

Wait till he gets into the fruitcup.

/might be going to ground shortly, besides we need all the anti-koolaid we can get.

Heh, I kinda like it when he spikes the fruitcups.

502 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:47:43pm

re: #481 stuiec

Right. We don't need to remind ourselves of the losses suffered in the 2006 elections which led to the call that the Republican party has to reinvent itself. If it did is still in question. I did see today that the Republicans are starting to gain some small but noticeable ground today.

How can anyone think that they must fail in order to rebuild energy? Think of an athlete who never considers failing even in the face of possible defeat. Giving one's all is the better of the medicine.

503 Cartman  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:47:56pm

My next task is to head down to RHQ and see if I can get a list of registered repubs who may need a ride to the polls to vote. Hell, I'll vote when they open, and then hopefully be running Cartman's Taxi Service the rest of the day. It's gotta be done.

504 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:48:09pm

re: #461 DesertSage

I kinda miss my avatar.

:(

i only miss my avatar if i don't hold a good sight picture or i jerk the trigger.

505 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:48:13pm

re: #481 stuiec

That's another scenario that may very well enter into the picture. But the people I'm talking about, that I could just not grock ....why?...
Iowahawk cleared that one right up for me. It's the Aversion to Wal-Mart factor, writ large.

506 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:48:20pm

re: #488 shanec99

To all who say thank you, it has been my pleasure as an immigrant to wear America's uniform. It has been my pleasure to be promoted and given the opportunity to shape the people who will take my place when I leave the service.

Service to America is a wonderful opportunity to be a part of a continuous fabric that stretches back to the Revolutionary War and continues unbroken today. This fabric is strengthened by the deeds of men like Micheal Monsoor and many unknown heroes. I stand in awe off all that these young men have done and the parents who raised them and instilled in them the values that made them into the young men and women they are today.

Let the tofu eating naysayers who drink $10 cups of coffee and sit around debating and finding ways to undermine the efforts our young people demonstrate every day be aware. It is the young people whom you denigrate who give you the opportunity to enjoy the freedoms you do, and they sacrifice their bodies and die everyday to ensure that you have that freedom.

Thanks and God Bless you Shane!

507 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:48:27pm

re: #496 Pvt Bin Jammin

heh, brown smoke for you, no doubt.
nite

Watch that photoshop video....it's funny.

508 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:48:49pm

re: #483 DesertSage

Red doesn't look so intimidating without his avatar.

.....hehe

check your fruitcup.

/white smoke

509 DesertSage  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:49:14pm

re: #504 redc1c4

i only miss my avatar if i don't hold a good sight picture or i jerk the trigger.

B.R.A.S.S.

510 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:49:19pm

re: #477 redc1c4

/psssst...... wanna buy an avatar?

Will you take a credit card from a bank in Syria?

511 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:49:30pm

re: #492 gmsc

There was another LGFer whose wife had argued for 0bama throughout the whole election. Earlier this week, when they went to vote, she got into the both and she couldn't do it - she voted for McCain!

It'll be interesting to see how much of this happens.

(Could you imagine the faces on the evening news if McCain took CA? Yeah, I doubt it will happen too, but just imagine if it did - their looks would be priceless. Come to think of it, so would 0bama's!)

I would do filthy, disgusting things for that to happen.

512 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:49:34pm

re: #500 legalpad

I do not agree with the assessment nor the sentiment. I am not Peggy Nooman, she is obviously seeking some kind of credibility with the liberal press.

513 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:50:13pm

re: #497 pat

Nonsense. I am a cheerful person at heart.

No, it isn't "nonsense" - they said either you or pessimistic or --

514 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:51:33pm

re: #512 pat

I do not agree with the assessment nor the sentiment. I am not Peggy Nooman, she is obviously seeking some kind of credibility with the liberal press.

Is this the same Peggy Noonan who was President Reagan's sppech writer?

My lord, what have we become?

515 I heart the USA  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:52:46pm

As I am computer-challenged and a very infrequent poster I have never bothered with or even know how to customize my avatar. I must admit it has made me feel somewhat inferior. Now that we all have the same avatars, albeit temporarily, doesn't it feel so much more fair?

//////////////// (Getting punchy and need some Zzzz's!)

516 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:52:55pm

Halloween is almost here in Vegas!

Oogie Boogie!

517 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:53:14pm

re: #510 SurferDoc

Just deposit it in his Nigerian account.

518 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:54:29pm

re: #511 TheMatrix31

*starts writing up a list*

/damn at this rate I am getting coal for Christmas.

519 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:54:30pm

re: #512 pat

I do not agree with the assessment nor the sentiment. I am not Peggy Nooman, she is obviously seeking some kind of credibility with the liberal press.

Well, I wasn't really thinking of your view on that - I just find the continuous assumption people make that "world opinion" is against the U.S. overdone and tiresome (boring).

520 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:54:46pm

re: #497 pat

Nonsense. I am a cheerful person at heart.

perhaps.

521 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:55:39pm

re: #517 BlueCanuck

Just deposit it in his Nigerian account.

LOL! Beloved Friend, I am the assistant to Finance Minister Unduku of Ngeria. Your name was given to me as the heir 15,000,000 and 13 cents being held...etc.

522 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:55:51pm

re: #515 I heart the USA

As I am computer-challenged and a very infrequent poster I have never bothered with or even know how to customize my avatar. I must admit it has made me feel somewhat inferior. Now that we all have the same avatars, albeit temporarily, doesn't it feel so much more fair?

//////////////// (Getting punchy and need some Zzzz's!)

You probably won't be able to until Nov. 5th. As we get closer to election day, more people are coming onto LGF's servers, and using up more server time. To reduce the load, Charles has turned off custom avatars until things die down.

523 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:55:57pm

re: #496 Pvt Bin Jammin

heh, brown smoke for you, no doubt.
nite

i'm amused that my avatar is "threatening"....

especially since he personifies me.

524 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:56:23pm

re: #493 BlueCanuck

2 Hours?! I could die of starvation before then!

/Dr. Zachary Smith

525 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:56:47pm

re: #518 BlueCanuck

*starts writing up a list*

/damn at this rate I am getting coal for Christmas.

I live in LA. That should be filthy enough.

526 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:56:47pm

re: #460 pat

Pat you just keep on reading Peggy Noonan and her ilk. The rest of us will keep on fighting the good fight.

Folks like Peggy Noonan, Kathleen Parker, George Will and yes, sometimes Charles Krauthammer do not speak for me. I am a member of the great unwashed, a "plebian", a middle American. I don't give a rat's red ass what George Will or Peggy Noonan tell me about this election, because they don't have one iota of understanding of what I face. They're so lost up in DC-land that they cannot conceive of the fact that real conservatives are actually working people.

527 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:58:15pm

re: #499 gmsc

You can do that sooner that you think. Wait until spring, move your clock forward, and the move to Arizona. You'll never have to rest your clock again!

live in AZ?

"the horror!"

528 Outrider  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:59:20pm

re: #502 Gus 802

Right. We don't need to remind ourselves of the losses suffered in the 2006 elections which led to the call that the Republican party has to reinvent itself. If it did is still in question. I did see today that the Republicans are starting to gain some small but noticeable ground today.

How can anyone think that they must fail in order to rebuild energy? Think of an athlete who never considers failing even in the face of possible defeat. Giving one's all is the better of the medicine.

Trouble is to many folks think like civilians and want to quit when things start looking poorly. Or they believe failure is acceptable.

Think like a soldier. Failure is unacceptable and so is quitting. It ain't even over when the fat lady sings; It ain't over till it's over, until then Charlie Mike.

529 devil in baggy pants  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:59:34pm

re: #159 neocon hippie

I encourage you all to read the following, which I also linked upstairs:

What you were never intended to know in this election

By a Hillary turned Obama staffer who is so disillusioned she wrote this piece and seems not to be voting for anyone.

She is right out front about the psy ops of the campaign, among other things.

Thanks to Erisl for the link.


FWIW...
I don't buy it. The tone is very similar to the other link @ Hillbuzz... amateurish. And she spelled "Lieberman" wrong. Feels like a clunky attempt to sway Republicans.

530 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:59:50pm

re: #527 redc1c4

At least it sounds a lot better than the left coast.

/But I have heard about those summers though. . . . . .

531 legalpad  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:00:20am

OK - Now, I'm going to bed. Shit. I have to strangle a tyrannosaurus of paperwork tomorrow. (My "office" is like the warehouse where the Lost Ark was stored.)

532 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:00:43am

re: #510 SurferDoc

Will you take a credit card from a bank in Syria?

i'll take a sixer of Arrogant Bastard Ale.....

/named after me, btw. %-)

533 I heart the USA  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:00:43am

re: #522 gmsc

You probably won't be able to until Nov. 5th. As we get closer to election day, more people are coming onto LGF's servers, and using up more server time. To reduce the load, Charles has turned off custom avatars until things die down.

See how tired I am? I was going for a socialist joke by my comment. But I am glad to know that it will continue until election day - I've been loving how fast the page is reloading! Thanks for the info!

534 SurferDoc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:01:39am

Good night, All.

/Stay Frosty

535 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:04:36am

re: #534 SurferDoc

Good night, All.

/Stay Frosty

Good night! Stay pink, soft and oily!

536 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:06:46am

Oh the pain. The pain.

537 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:06:58am

re: #461 DesertSage

I kinda miss my avatar.

:(

yeah............................... : : : sigh : : :

I miss your avatar, too.

BTW, have you heard from "atman" lately? I emailed him about a famous cartoon of my father's that he was looking for, but haven't heard back. And he hasn't been here at LGF in awhile either.

538 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:06:59am

The next few days are very important!

In the spirit of both Halloween and Election Day, Be Prepared!

539 itellu3times  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:08:46am

re: #491 Spare O'Lake

Such plans are not all that common, anyway under most scenarios stock recovers in 2-3 years at worst, so problems are temporary.

540 Outrider  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:09:13am

re: #533 I heart the USA

See how tired I am? I was going for a socialist joke by my comment. But I am glad to know that it will continue until election day - I've been loving how fast the page is reloading! Thanks for the info!

Actually so many people had such great and fancy avatars other people, less proficient on a computer felt bad about it. In the spirit of letting folks know what an Obama presidency would mean, he merely leveled the playing field. Everyone gets the same avator.
/joking of course.

541 itellu3times  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:09:38am

re: #538 gmsc

The next few days are very important!

In the spirit of both Halloween and Election Day, Be Prepared!

One of them is a horror show, and the other one is Halloween!

542 DesertSage  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:10:25am

re: #537 LeePro

yeah............................... : : : sigh : : :

I miss your avatar, too.

BTW, have you heard from "atman" lately? I emailed him about a famous cartoon of my father's that he was looking for, but haven't heard back. And he hasn't been here at LGF in awhile either.

Ahh, hell...I don't know where atman is either.

But I' happy to see you here :')

543 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:12:12am

re: #537 LeePro

yeah............................... : : : sigh : : :

I miss your avatar, too.

BTW, have you heard from "atman" lately? I emailed him about a famous cartoon of my father's that he was looking for, but haven't heard back. And he hasn't been here at LGF in awhile either.

hey there! hows tings? enjoying meals more these days?

/happy thoughts

544 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:13:14am

re: #529 devil in baggy pants

FWIW...
I don't buy it. The tone is very similar to the other link @ Hillbuzz... amateurish. And she spelled "Lieberman" wrong. Feels like a clunky attempt to sway Republicans.

An attempt to "sway Republicans" to do what? Vote for McCain? Because that is the aim and goal of Hillbuzz.

Please do not allow a couple of typos to keep you from appreciating the contribution of PUMAs in this election. We are not free from errors here on LGF. Nor are they free from them at Hillbuzz.

545 BlueCanuck  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:13:24am

re: #537 LeePro

Evening {LeePro}, glad to see you delurking tonight. Things cool in your jurisdiction?

546 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:14:23am

re: #488 shanec99

To all who say thank you, it has been my pleasure as an immigrant to wear America's uniform. It has been my pleasure to be promoted and given the opportunity to shape the people who will take my place when I leave the service.

Service to America is a wonderful opportunity to be a part of a continuous fabric that stretches back to the Revolutionary War and continues unbroken today. This fabric is strengthened by the deeds of men like Micheal Monsoor and many unknown heroes. I stand in awe off all that these young men have done and the parents who raised them and instilled in them the values that made them into the young men and women they are today.

Let the tofu eating naysayers who drink $10 cups of coffee and sit around debating and finding ways to undermine the efforts our young people demonstrate every day be aware. It is the young people whom you denigrate who give you the opportunity to enjoy the freedoms you do, and they sacrifice their bodies and die everyday to ensure that you have that freedom.

Wow. Just WOW!

You make us all proud, shane!
THANK YOU!

547 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:16:54am

Already Halloween in New Zealand. It's only a recent 'import' as the internet has become more popular and ideas spread faster.

Tonight just on dusk there were ghosts and ghouls all over the place. Seems the word has got out that #15 is the place to go for quality sweeties in volume .

Could barely get into my driveway for the monsters!


Where i hell (pardon the pun) did all these kids come from. I've only seen about 20 % of 'em before.

Do they bus them in or something?

hehehe :)

548 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:19:35am

Afternoon all and I pleasant Friday to you

549 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:19:36am

Ohh yes I forgot.


BOO!

550 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:20:46am

re: #548 LindaMarie

You're obviously in Oz?

G'day

551 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:20:52am

A little snippet from the Hillary Clinton Forum:

Obama's camp called me. I haven't heard from McCain yet. But Obama's camp asked me if I would be voting for Obama, and I said no, I was voting McCain. Then he asked if I was a registered Republican I said no. He said well, are you voting for Mark Warner, I said yes. He was shocked at first and said again, But you're not voting for Obama? I said Nope. I waited and waited for him to ask why. Instead he just hung up. Not a goodbye, not a thank you, not a thing. Just hung up. Rude little suckers.

That has happened thousands upon thousands of times. The pollsters don't want to hear about Democrats voting for McCain!

552 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:21:17am

re: #509 DesertSage

B.R.A.S.S.

? ? ?

553 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:21:31am

Speaking of the military, I've heard that there are problems with our soldiers being able to vote in time. If true, it's inexcusable. Any details?

554 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:21:42am

re: #539 itellu3times

Such plans are not all that common, anyway under most scenarios stock recovers in 2-3 years at worst, so problems are temporary.

The economic crisis is all too real.
The voter is being jolted awake by the market crash from his/her Obama-induced trance.
The Obama election platform is dead in the water.
McCain can still win this thing.

555 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:21:43am

re: #550 Aussie Infidel
I am in Kabul and G'day to you mate
; )

557 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:23:51am

re: #549 Aussie Infidel

Ohh yes I forgot.


BOO!

BOO Who?

558 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:24:32am

For our Aussie friends: What does "Fair Dinkum" mean?

559 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:24:41am

re: #547 Aussie Infidel

Already Halloween in New Zealand. It's only a recent 'import' as the internet has become more popular and ideas spread faster.

Tonight just on dusk there were ghosts and ghouls all over the place. Seems the word has got out that #15 is the place to go for quality sweeties in volume .

Could barely get into my driveway for the monsters!


Where i hell (pardon the pun) did all these kids come from. I've only seen about 20 % of 'em before.

Do they bus them in or something?

hehehe :)

in my AO, yes they do.... we quit doing Holloween the year that the only people who came to the door were the children of the neighbor's illegal alien garners, maids, etc.....

now i just do a fancy dinner for the two of us and we have chocolate & port for desert, with all the lights off out front.

for Easter, i hide mini liquor bottles around the house for her to find.....

/gotta keep the romance alive! %-)

560 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:26:13am

re: #542 DesertSage

Ahh, hell...I don't know where atman is either.

But I' happy to see you here :')

:D
Wish I lived closer to you and PBJ, so I could meet up with you two. Each of you has told me the other is a wonderful person. It's good to be with wonderful people.

561 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:27:34am

re: #356 stuiec

Because Tzipi Livni failed to form a government, and now the Israelis are going to the polls -- so it's entirely possible that Bibi Netanyahu will become the next Prime Minister of Israel.

So... Is that good or bad for Israel's survival?

Israeli politics are confusing. As a prospective Jewish convert I'd like to understand them, but I just... can't, somehow. I get that it's factional, that there's always a lot of debate and arguing, that deals are made, but the whole mess is very opaque to me.

If the Jew-haters on the left are upset, though, that's a good sign.

562 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:28:21am

re: #543 redc1c4

hey there! hows tings? enjoying meals more these days?

/happy thoughts

Hey, red!

Work complete. Eating still needs more practice. A little Very disappointed, but trying to adjust. What is, is.

>:-[

563 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:28:45am

Also to our Aussie friends - I watched "McLeod's Daughters" for years when I lived in Thailand, but was majorly bummed to see that they killed off Clair.

WHY DID THEY DO THAT?

564 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:29:31am

re: #545 BlueCanuck

Evening {LeePro}, glad to see you delurking tonight. Things cool in your jurisdiction?

Mostly...
Good to see you, too, {Blue}!

565 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:29:34am

What’s Your Halloween Giveaway Strategy?

The One Piece of Candy Per Kid Rule (aka The Walter Sobchak “There Are Rules” Approach). This method generally involves a big bowl of “fun size” goodies monitored by a stern taskmaster. Each child follows the universally agreed-upon process of saying “trick or treat?” and his or her hand is allowed to grasp a single treat from the bowl. Any child attempting multiple treats is immediately disciplined/shamed.

The Monty Hall Mom. These folks generally go for a bit more costume-related chat, then offer a “handful” of candy, which makes it a game of skill for kids with little hands. Strategy is key — using a scooping method can yield more candy than closing your fist around the goodies.

The Absentee Landlord (aka the Leave Me Alone Family). These people leave a tray of stuff by their front door, sometimes with some lame rule (like “take only one, please!”) on a sign. Because of the inherent greed issues here (see: tragedy of the commons), the goodies are usually apples or something equally disappointing.

The Fruit Peddler. I really wish there was some kind of hobo code for kids to identify these houses. At best, you get an apple, tangerine, or box of raisins. At worst, you get a weird lecture about how fruit is better than candy. (On the bright side, when you grow up you’ll sort of understand. But you’ll never forgive.)

Here’s a Nickel, Go Buy Yourself a Clue. These people give you money — in pitiably small quantities. Perhaps they’re hoping you’ll start a college fund. In my day the going rate was a nickel. Do kids get quarters now?

The Slightly Unsettling Proselytizer. I only encountered this once, when trick-or-treating in a fancy neighborhood in Sarasota, Florida — but it has stuck with me. My fellow trick-or-treaters and I were greeted at the door by a smiley couple who gave us full-sized candy bars with Jack Chick tracts wrapped around them.

The “I’m Totally Not Home” Guy. Dude, we see that your TV is on in your otherwise darkened house…couldn’t you just leave some candy by the door?!

So let’s have it. What’s your Halloween Giveaway strategy? And I’m also dying to know: what candy/fruit/money/tracts are you giving away this year?

566 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:30:36am

I guess given time zones that it's just about Friday afternoon in Kabul.

My Godson has just deployed for his third tour as a CPT with the US Army into Iraq. His wife also a CPT deploys in a week for her second. At least they will be together in their 'container' accommodation. Had a quick e-mail from him today. Seems it's a LOT quieter than the last two deployments. He sees himself getting bored in a HQ this time instead of out at the sharp end.


Stay safe girl..

We have to look after the 'good guys!' They're precious and there are far too few of you about these days!


Actually i was invited down to the US Marine Corps 'house in Wellington tonight for a Marine Halloween Party. The guys guard the US Embassy in the capital. Great lot of blokes. Too bad they didn't give me enough notice to make it down to party with them. US Marines REALLY know how to throw a great party!

567 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:31:12am

re: #557 gmsc

BOO Who?

Just a generic BOO! :)

568 BlueCanuck  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:31:16am

Wow, just wow. This guy gets it on all levels.

569 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:31:21am

re: #557 gmsc

BOO Who?

Don't cry.

570 lummox  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:32:54am

B.R.A.S.S. = trigger discipline

Breathe
Relax
Aim
Slack
Squeeze.

571 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:32:56am

re: #569 LeePro

Don't cry.

That joke was old when the Dead Sea was sick.

572 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:33:57am

re: #565 gmsc

LMAO!

573 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:34:00am

re: #558 Intrepid

For our Aussie friends: What does "Fair Dinkum" mean?


Fair Dinkum:-

True
The truth.
Someone who you can trust your life to.

as in ... He's fair dinkum bloke


or ... would I lie to you fair dinkum!

574 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:34:46am

re: #552 LeePro

? ? ?

kinda like SPORTS...... it's an Army acronym for weapons training....

IIRC, 'cause i was young and had a future then, Breathe, Release, Aim, Sight, Squeeze.

IOW: take a deep breath, then release it to relax the body. pick a target, and then acquire a good sight picture. squeeze the trigger, then repeat as necessary.

575 BlueCanuck  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:35:32am

re: #565 gmsc

My parents didn't believe in Hallowe'en. Lights off nobody home approach. One time I do remember doing it though, my mom gave out handfuls of peanuts in shells.

/Just try that today.

576 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:35:43am

re: #567 Aussie Infidel

Just a generic BOO! :)

Your knock-knock jokes need works.
;)


re: #569 LeePro

Don't cry.

There you go!


I've got an even better knock-knock joke. Someone else start it.

577 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:36:42am

re: #576 gmsc

There you go!


I've got an even better knock-knock joke. Someone else start it.

Some kind soul put that man out of his misery! hehehe :)

578 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:37:01am

re: #565 gmsc

I guess I'm "None of the above."

We really do leave the house. A little before dark, we turn out all the lights, go out to eat, do not return 'til past the kiddies' bedtime.

Mean? Nahhhhhh. Been doin' that ever since the trick-or-treaters in our neighborhood turned up way taller than we are, and my little ceramic ghost-candle props (that my children made) went missing.

579 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:38:19am

Nothing wrong with peanuts, as long as they're encased in a snickers bar. :D

580 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:39:03am

re: #575 BlueCanuck

My parents didn't believe in Hallowe'en. Lights off nobody home approach. One time I do remember doing it though, my mom gave out handfuls of peanuts in shells.

/Just try that today.

LOL.
That's not as bad as the ones who used to give out apples.
Me and my little buddies used to go to the end of the driveway and then throw the apples at the garage door.

581 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:39:30am

G'dafternoon Reptilia on this happy pumpkin day!

If Sarah Palin or Barack Obama had to deal with Hugo Chavez...

582 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:39:33am

We don't get any trick or treaters any more. The kids in our neck of the woods are all too old to do it, and since we're in the country, nobody brings their kids out to us.

So I get candy!

583 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:39:43am

re: #562 LeePro

Hey, red!

Work complete. Eating still needs more practice. A little Very disappointed, but trying to adjust. What is, is.

>:-[

you sound like my buddy, who lost just about all his teeth due to chemo and aftereffects. i'd link his blog for ya to feel less alone, but snice he's a raving liberal (ex Ranger: go figure) i'll spare ya.

suffice to say that you're not alone.
(besides really good Q should almost fall apart on ya......%-)

if you ever make it out LA way, dinner's on me.

584 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:40:14am

It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

585 stuiec  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:40:55am

re: #561 Pawn of the Oppressor

So... Is that good or bad for Israel's survival?

Israeli politics are confusing. As a prospective Jewish convert I'd like to understand them, but I just... can't, somehow. I get that it's factional, that there's always a lot of debate and arguing, that deals are made, but the whole mess is very opaque to me.

If the Jew-haters on the left are upset, though, that's a good sign.

Bibi Netanyahu is good for Israel's survival. He knows what it means to be an Israeli Prime Minister under US pressure to make peace with the Palestinians, and he knows what the limits are to what kind of "peace" the Palestinians are capable of offering. He's also good on economics and will help Israel remain prosperous enough to thrive as well as survive.

586 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:41:32am

re: #566 Aussie Infidel


Safe? Always. Security says jump. and I never ask "how high?"
I error on the side of caution. Since I am the wife of the CoP; I think they appreciate that.
Also way up on the food chain of IT. Why do I even feel I need to explain my value and presence here?
Maybe sometimes because I am introduced as "wife of XXXXX"
Annoys me a lot, but often it is in company where it would be impolite to make an issue of it.

587 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:42:32am

re: #571 Spare O'Lake

:-p

588 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:44:11am

You rock, gmsc! :D

589 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:44:22am

re: #585 stuiec

Wasn't he PM when the 2000 Intifada broke out?

590 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:44:25am

This could very well be the first time in decades that the name "FORD" isn't on a ballot in West Tennessee.

Will wonders never cease!

591 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:44:32am

re: #578 LeePro

I guess I'm "None of the above."

We really do leave the house. A little before dark, we turn out all the lights, go out to eat, do not return 'til past the kiddies' bedtime.

Mean? Nahhhhhh. Been doin' that ever since the trick-or-treaters in our neighborhood turned up way taller than we are, and my little ceramic ghost-candle props (that my children made) went missing.

Myself, I'm the “I’m Totally Not Home” Guy. I'll go to a Halloween Party if invited, and get dressed up, but I could never do the at-home thing.

592 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:44:54am

re: #588 Boogberg

You rock, gmsc! :D

Thank you!

593 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:48:24am

Drive-by posting:

In all the hellacious web serving LGF did yesterday, six visits from Reuters got logged.

Innnnnnteresting.

594 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:48:37am

re: #583 redc1c4

you sound like my buddy, who lost just about all his teeth due to chemo and aftereffects. i'd link his blog for ya to feel less alone, but snice he's a raving liberal (ex Ranger: go figure) i'll spare ya.

suffice to say that you're not alone.
(besides really good Q should almost fall apart on ya......%-)

if you ever make it out LA way, dinner's on me.

Such kind words! Thanks, red!

Will do Q regardless!

595 BlueCanuck  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:48:43am

Well since it's my day off, and I am tired, I go to bed and sleeps. Try to see a little more daylight then the sunrise and the sunset. Later all stay warm and scaly.

/red save me some of your ingredients will you?

596 shanec99  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:48:43am

re: #585 stuiec
Let us pray that the state of Israel survives. There would be no greater tragedy than the calamity that would befall all of humanity if we the people of the free world allowed this besieged nation to be overrun and destroyed by terrorist nations like Iran.

The people of Israel have survived slavery in Egypt (during the time of Moses), Persia or modern Iran (during the time of Haman), Babylon or modern Iraq (during the time of Nebuchadnezzar), Rome after 62 AD and have lived in a diaspora that at various times (most recently in Germany during the 1930s) threatened their very survival. It would be a terrible tragedy if they survived all of this and during our generation we failed to protect thiswonderful culture and heroic who have played such an important part in the development of western civilization.

597 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:49:19am

re: #570 lummox

B.R.A.S.S. = trigger discipline

Breathe
Relax
Aim
Slack
Squeeze.

IIRC (it was a long time ago) nothing was said about slack because they said we should just keep pulling back on the trigger until something happened. the whole idea was a steady squeeze until the hammer surprised us by falling and the weapon fired. this would help avoid anticipatory flinches, etc.... this was the whole purpose behind the "dime washer" training during BRM out on the Malones.

YMMV.

598 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:51:57am

re: #586 LindaMarie

Safe? Always. Security says jump. and I never ask "how high?"
I error on the side of caution. Since I am the wife of the CoP; I think they appreciate that.
Also way up on the food chain of IT. Why do I even feel I need to explain my value and presence here?
Maybe sometimes because I am introduced as "wife of XXXXX"
Annoys me a lot, but often it is in company where it would be impolite to make an issue of it.

if you ever run across an OzAF Ground Security type that goes by the handle of "Brash" tell him red says "hi"..... he's in and out every so often, so your paths may cross.

599 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:53:14am

re: #596 shanec99

I tragically cannot imagine what would happen after something like that. The only thing I can envision is that the world would just "move on."

600 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:53:21am

re: #595 BlueCanuck

Well since it's my day off, and I am tired, I go to bed and sleeps. Try to see a little more daylight then the sunrise and the sunset. Later all stay warm and scaly.

/red save me some of your ingredients will you?

i embedded them in your pillow with some DMSO carrier......

/weet dreams....... (and then some! %-)

601 LeePro  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:56:55am

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

G'nite, y'all.

 ¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

602 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:57:42am

re: #601 LeePro

Good night and Happy Pumpkin Day!

603 stuiec  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:57:45am

re: #589 laZardo

Wasn't he PM when the 2000 Intifada broke out?

No. Ehud Barak was. Barak is again the leader of the Labor Party, but his party looks to be headed for a major defeat in the upcoming election.

The 2000 Intifada led to Ariel Sharon's ascendancy to the position of Prime Minister.

604 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:57:46am

Hallloweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen

605 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:57:48am

re: #601 LeePro

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

G'nite, y'all.

 ¦·o zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Good night, LeePro!

606 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 12:58:53am

re: #596 shanec99

Let us pray that the state of Israel survives. There would be no greater tragedy than the calamity that would befall all of humanity if we the people of the free world allowed this besieged nation to be overrun and destroyed by terrorist nations like Iran.

The people of Israel have survived slavery in Egypt (during the time of Moses), Persia or modern Iran (during the time of Haman), Babylon or modern Iraq (during the time of Nebuchadnezzar), Rome after 62 AD and have lived in a diaspora that at various times (most recently in Germany during the 1930s) threatened their very survival. It would be a terrible tragedy if they survived all of this and during our generation we failed to protect thiswonderful culture and heroic who have played such an important part in the development of western civilization.

i believe that Israel has learned the lessons of history and will protect themselves, rather than rely on the goyim (and who could blame them?)

if i were Iran, i'd start shitting bricks right after the final election results are out in the US, unless, of course, McCain wins.

if that happens, they'll just be constipated for at least 4 more years, knowing that if they cross a line, they're fucked.....

607 shanec99  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:01:54am

re: #599 laZardo

Move on... my heavens... such an act would thrust the world into a conflict unlike anything that humanity has ever witnessed.

If Israel's enemies can destroy her, it will only be a matter of time that they destroy the weak and vulnerable nations in their vicinity. There would be a homogeneous religious theocracy or autocracy that would stretch from Indonesia up into southern Europe all the way across east Asia and into northern Africa.
No weak nation would survive. Taliban or Iranian like governments would enslave a big portion of the world's population and control much of her natural resources. Civilization with its dependence of science, use of technology to improve human welfare, commitment to the rule of law and charity for the weak would be in a war for its very survival.
We simply cannot allow the thugs who lead the nations that are committed to Israel's destruction to succeed.

608 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:02:19am

re: #606 redc1c4

i believe that Israel has learned the lessons of history and will protect themselves, rather than rely on the goyim (and who could blame them?)

if i were Iran, i'd start shitting bricks right after the final election results are out in the US, unless, of course, McCain wins.

if that happens, they'll just be constipated for at least 4 more years, knowing that if they cross a line, they're fucked.....

Just wait till you hear of "mysterious explosions" within Iranian territory. (;

609 BlueCanuck  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:02:34am

Crap, got sucked into something. Now I am gone.

Night {LeePro}.

/night john boy.
//ooooh colours and waves

610 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:05:30am

re: #598 redc1c4

The security people here are good. I try not to need them.
Have you read about the Afghan they call Rambo? The guy that is at Camp Phoenix?

Each rotation of soldiers adopts him and takes care of him. He has prevented numerous attacks on the base. He scrutinizes every vehicle that enters and leaves and salutes each one. “They are always taking care of me,” he said. The attention, he added, “makes me work harder and harder for them.” For months he refused compensation, but now has been convinced to take a salary.

We have an APO box there and he now waves me through. I admire him a great deal and it is worth googling his story.

611 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:07:20am

re: #607 shanec99

We simply cannot allow the thugs who lead the nations that are committed to Israel's destruction to succeed.

Everyone in America has the ability to prevent it from happening by their actions up through Nov. 4th.

612 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:09:50am

Murtha pleas for $1 million after racism comments

Veteran Democratic Rep. John Murtha (Pa.) has sent out a last-minute plea for $1 million to save his hotly contested seat, endangered by his own remarks describing his district as racist.

In an e-mail sent to potential donors, Murtha’s campaign asked his supporters to maximize all campaign contributions.

“We need to raise another $1 million to compete,” his campaign fundraiser Susan O’Neill wrote in the e-mail obtained by The Hill. “We need money immediately.”

O’Neill blamed Republicans from outside Pennsylvania for Murtha’s problems. Polls show Murtha, running for his 18th term, ahead of his GOP opponent by just a few percentage points.

“Congressman Murtha is in a brutal reelection campaign,” O’Neill wrote. “The Swift Boaters have put up a candidate from Virginia and have raised millions of dollars against Congressman Murtha. In addition, other 527s and the [National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC)] have spent millions to smear Congressman Murtha on TV, radio and in newspapers.”

Murtha’s race appeared to tighten after he called his western Pennsylvania district a “racist area.” After apologizing, he added more fuel to the fire by saying the district was, until recently, “really redneck.”

Murtha’s comments have been widely repeated, and the congressman was even parodied on “Saturday Night Live.”

In a fundraising e-mail sent on Thursday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) asked her own supporters to help Murtha. “In Pennsylvania, my good friend John Murtha — a strong supporter for me during the primaries and an important voice against the war in Iraq — is depending on your help to win,” Clinton wrote.

GOP challenger William Russell, a 46-year-old Iraq war veteran and retired Army colonel, has outraised Murtha so far. As of Oct. 15, Russell had raised $2.9 million compared to Murtha’s $2.2 million.

Political action committees can donate up to $5,000 to candidates, while individuals may donate up to $2,300.

Murtha, a close ally of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), is a welcome target for Republicans, who otherwise are headed toward what appears to be a gloomy election night.

Russell moved from Virginia to run for Congress because of Murtha's criticisms of the Iraq war. Murtha’s comments about western Pennsylvania being racist have emboldened Republicans to give last-minute help to Russell.

Murtha, a decorated war veteran, first won his seat in a 1974 special election by a little more than 100 votes.

The NRCC this week bought a television ad that highlighted Murtha’s remarks. Separately, former Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) accused Murtha in a radio spot of “insulting his own constituents” and “apparently forgetting who he works for.”

Murtha is the chairman of the House Appropriations Defense subcommittee. He has been very successful in the federal earmarking process, ranking as the highest recipient of earmarks in the defense appropriations bill.

His earmarks have revitalized Johnstown, the largest city in his district, and defense companies have opened offices and facilities throughout the region he represents.

If you'd like to help his opponent, the website is here.

613 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:09:58am

re: #610 LindaMarie

Now they're brainwashing people to slaughter civilians for the Trans Afghan Pipeline for free?!

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614 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:12:18am

Awwwww . . .

CBS swings to $12.46B 3Q loss after hefty charge

Condé Nast Cutting Five Percent of All Magazine Staffs; Future of Men's Vogue In Doubt.

Gee, if I hadn't already said my "BOO Who"s tonight . . .

615 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:15:36am

Ahhhh That's better. Nothing like a good dinner.

Replete!
Now where was I?

616 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:20:19am

re: #613 laZardo

Now they're brainwashing people to slaughter civilians for the Trans Afghan Pipeline for free?!

//////////////////////////////////

What do the 'locals' feel about being targeted?

617 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:20:51am

re: #613 laZardo

What? Google Rambo and Afghanistan - I think you misunderstood me.
He is an hero.
The story here and the way the people here (Afghans) think is not what you read in the press.

618 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:22:23am

re: #599 laZardo

I tragically cannot imagine what would happen after something like that. The only thing I can envision is that the world would just "move on."

speak for yourself. i refuse to be a party to genocide.

even after the fact.

619 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:22:33am

re: #617 LindaMarie

I know. Hence the copious supply of sarc-slashes. q=

620 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:23:58am

re: #617 LindaMarie

What? Google Rambo and Afghanistan - I think you misunderstood me.
He is an hero.
The story here and the way the people here (Afghans) think is not what you read in the press.

I've noticed that it's NEVER the way that it reads in the press.

A number of times i've been involved in reported 'incidents' and i have to pinch myself and ask .... 'was i actually there?'

... and what parallel universe was the journalist living in at the time?...
..... and what was that journalist smoking?

621 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:27:05am

re: #617 LindaMarie

What? Google Rambo and Afghanistan - I think you misunderstood me.
He is an hero.
The story here and the way the people here (Afghans) think is not what you read in the press.

what a surprise *that* is......

/

white smoke

622 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:27:39am

re: #616 Aussie Infidel

THEY HATE IT! caps indended for emphasis.
They want us here - for a while at least. How long? A couple of more years at least.
Ask the cook. He has a wife and 3 kids. The oldest is a daughter about 7 and they are sending her to private school.
Not all Afghans are evil. They are pretty messed up after 30 years of war.

623 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:28:16am

re: #565 gmsc

Well, gmsc, IF the kids today don't know the chant (the Threat) and the Follow-Up, they can't enjoy extorting treats...

The Chant / The Threat:
"Trick or treats! Money or eats!"

The Follow-Up: No TREATS? We TRICK YOU, you lousy cheapskate hard-heart!
We toilet-paper your yard or toss a bag of dog-poop on your porch or something equally petty-but-tricky!

624 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:28:45am

Whooooooo . fireworks ..... ALREADY

It seems that Guy Fawkes Night and Halloween are merging into one?

It's a bit early (like weeks early) to celebrate the burning of the guy by burning copious quantities of gunpowder and terrifying the local cats!

625 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:32:17am

re: #624 Aussie Infidel

Remember, remember, the Fourth of November...

626 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:32:43am

re: #618 redc1c4

Which is why I'm hoping it won't happen...

627 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:34:08am

re: #622 LindaMarie

That I know.

I used to be friends with an Afgan lady at university 30 years ago in Australia. She was an announcer for Radio Afghanistan prior to the wars and misery.

There are of course a few thousand Afghans living in Oz. Most families arrived 4-5 generations ago to run the camel trains servicing the telegraph lines in central Australia a 100 years ago.

628 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:35:12am

More fireworks... sheesh!


Remember remember the 5th. of November.

can't they wait?

629 Aussie Infidel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:36:22am

Have a good day / evening / night fellow lizards.

Off surfing some other sites.

Have a good one!

630 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:37:52am

Speaking of cats:

ALF goes trick-or-treating

:D

631 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:41:31am

Just 20 minutes short of fruitcup, I'm going to have to hit the hay!

Good Night! Stay pink, soft, and oily!

632 Intrepid  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:41:46am

Great article from Michael Novak

633 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:44:15am

re: #627 Aussie Infidel
Many Afghans that left in the last 20 years have returned and are building a new city. The sad part is that many have been thrown out of Iran and Pakistan and have returned with no land and no way to make a living.
It is very complicated and very political. Too much so to write here.
It is getting better in Kabul at least for most. Not for all, there are more women begging on the streets then then two years ago.

634 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:45:40am

re: #633 LindaMarie

The economic downturn unfortunately makes it hard for Afghan men to sustain the same number of wives as they did before.

/cruel joke...

635 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:46:35am

memo for the LNDT record:
151 and water in a wine glass may *look* like sauvignon blanc, but it won't drink the same way.......

that is all.

CPT Obvious sends

/white smoke

636 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:47:44am

re: #633 LindaMarie

Many Afghans that left in the last 20 years have returned and are building a new city. The sad part is that many have been thrown out of Iran and Pakistan and have returned with no land and no way to make a living.
It is very complicated and very political. Too much so to write here.
It is getting better in Kabul at least for most. Not for all, there are more women begging on the streets then then two years ago.

maybe you should write the long version and forward it to Charles?

637 gmsc  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:50:09am

re: #631 gmsc

Just 20 minutes short of fruitcup, I'm going to have to hit the hay!

Good Night! Stay pink, soft, and oily!

Before anybody takes that last part wrong, it's just a funny quote from MST3K's skewering of a film short called Hired (part 1, part 2)

Good night, take 2!

638 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:53:12am

re: #634 laZardo
Indeed.
I went to pick out fabric for drapes last week.
Afghans love gaudy, flower filled clashing colors. The guy keep showing me pink flowers on yellow or green. Very bright colors.
I told him my husband would not like the pink (not mentioning that I did not either) and he said I sholud be like an "Afgahan wife" and tell my husband this is what I picked out and he should - just live with it.
We did settle on something more subtle.

639 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:54:30am

Oh sure, gmsc. Blame your disgusting sexual perversion on a harmless TV show. That's just fucking typical. :D

640 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:56:31am

re: #639 Boogberg

Oh sure, gmsc. Blame your disgusting sexual perversion on a harmless TV show. That's just fucking typical. :D

you would know.....

/white smoke

641 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 1:58:37am

well, since LoL is either in jail, still out partying, or passed out sleeping it off from the Sillies winning the World Series, we should prolly get something set up to cover her absence.....

somebody pull the tables out and i'll go raid the fridge.

642 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

643 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:00:32am

y'all need to check out today's Day by Day cartoon.......

funnier than usual, and that's saying a lot %-)

644 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:00:49am

red! :-)

The parade is today. I wasn't invited. ;-)

645 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:01:06am

re: #641 redc1c4

Chocolate chop cookies - bringing them now.

646 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:01:14am

re: #642 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

4 seconds late.... i *told* you she was hammered...... %-)

647 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:01:51am

re: #640 redc1c4

you would know.....

Funny as a crutch, red.

648 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:02:52am

re: #645 LindaMarie

Chocolate chop cookies - bringing them now.

i haven't made my "Toll House from hell" cookies in a few years.....
maybe this year?

might get to the BBQ tamales too......

649 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:04:25am

re: #647 Boogberg

Funny as a crutch, red.

your speel chucker got "crotch" wrong....... %-)

/white smoke

650 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:04:37am

re: #642 littleoldlady

I went through the fruit cup and all I got was a rock.

651 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:05:01am

Coooooookies! YUM! Thanks, LindaMarie! :-)

I probably should leave now. My horrorscope:

As moody as you might be, try to be sociable and pleasant. Seek an isolated environment if you feel like lashing out. A short-tempered outburst could cost you dearly with a friendship. It could also anger an authority figure.

This election is killing me. :-(

652 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:06:27am

re: #650 laZardo

laZardo! :-)

Yeah, that's the other thing. I hope the candy lasts until the kids get here tonight. ;-)

653 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:07:00am

re: #651 littleoldlady

Coooooookies! YUM! Thanks, LindaMarie! :-)

I probably should leave now. My horrorscope:

This election is killing me. :-(

scream at me..... you know *i* don't care..... %-)

654 Spirit93  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:07:27am

re: #651 littleoldlady

{lol}

655 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:08:12am

Is that fried chicken I see next to fruitcup, Littleoldlady? Why yes, I believe it is! I'll just stash the fruitcup for dessert if you don't mind. :D

656 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:08:30am

re: #653 redc1c4

First I have to decide if you're a friend or an authority figure.

*white smoke*

;-)

657 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:08:49am

I am dropping off the cookies, staying just long enough to be polite now.
It is nap plus 30 here on Friday. Working 6 days a week just takes the starch out of you and hubby is already napping.

658 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:09:32am

re: #655 Boogberg

Is that fried chicken I see next to fruitcup, Littleoldlady? Why yes, I believe it is! I'll just stash the fruitcup for dessert if you don't mind. :D

/heh.....

i told you they'd never notice it was rat!

/wnite smoke

659 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:10:50am

re: #657 LindaMarie

I am dropping off the cookies, staying just long enough to be polite now.
It is nap plus 30 here on Friday. Working 6 days a week just takes the starch out of you and hubby is already napping.

it's hell getting old, isn't it? %-)

/i feel yo pain!

660 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:12:03am

Spirit93! :-)

Boo!gberg! :-)

I don't usually serve chicken for breakfast...

661 wahabicorridor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:15:19am

re: #651 littleoldlady

This election is killing me. :-(

You and me both. I've been up since 2 am because of nightmares. About the 3rd time this week. This one was about massive crop failures because Obama and his buds tainted the seeds - the want to control all the food supply. gah.

662 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:17:20am

re: #656 littleoldlady

First I have to decide if you're a friend or an authority figure.

*white smoke*

;-)

duh: i'm Mr. Bad Example...... wake me up for meals.

663 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:17:24am

re: #658 redc1c4

And here they never think you will notice it is not beef/ lamb and is old goat.
You can smell the difference - immediately.
I have had to eat. at dinner invites, so many "unidentified" foods that are is disgusting. The good part is you only have to touch them with your fork and that is OK.

664 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:17:45am

Things are going fairly well, actually. My brother (the family idiot) was worried that because he's voting for Obama I wouldn't be sending his son a Chanukah present. I wanted to show him that there's no hard feelings, and we ARE after all, family, so I sent my nephew's present early.

A nice fresh copy of The Communist Manifesto.

/Now, who should my next victim be...

665 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:18:30am

re: #661 wahabicorridor

wahabi! :-)

Nightmares 'R Us

:-(

666 wahabicorridor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:20:55am

My sister forwarded this email to me yesterday:

Dear Fellow Business Owners:


As a Business owner who employs 30 people, I have resigned myself to the fact that Barack Obama, will be our next President, and that my Taxes and Fees, will go up in a BIG way. To compensate for these increases, I figure, that the Customer, will have to see an increase in my fees to them of about, 8%. I will also have to lay off 6 of my employees. This really bothered me as I believe we are family, here and didn't know how to choose who will have to go. So, this is what I did. I strolled thru the parking lot and found, 8 Obama bumper stickers on my employees cars. I have decided these folks will be the first to be laid off. I can't think of another fair way to approach this problem. If you have a better idea, let me know. I am sending this letter to all Business owners that I know.

667 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:21:07am

I had a liquid *wink wink* supper last night so I'm really hungry this morning, Littleoldlady. I need meat and lots of it. :D

668 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:22:03am

re: #664 littleoldlady
Good for you! Big sigh of relief from him.

/not me please

669 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:22:23am

re: #666 wahabicorridor

How perfect is that? :-)

670 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:22:54am

re: #664 littleoldlady

Whoever that is, send them the Little Red Book. Don't send any Che Guevara merchandise though...his face makes so much money that it reverses the meaning upon the wearer.

671 wahabicorridor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:24:07am

re: #665 littleoldlady

wahabi! :-)

Nightmares 'R Us

:-(

No kidding. I think I was dreaming about food because I just finished a book on the seige of Leningrad. Deliberately starved for over 800 days. The previous nightmare was about that 'civilian national security force' jackboots on my front porch and I couldn't find my gun.

Ok, I'm cheerful - think I'll go lay down and try to get a few winks in.

672 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:24:56am

re: #670 laZardo

Whoever that is, send them the Little Red Book. Don't send any Che Guevara merchandise though...his face makes so much money that it reverses the meaning upon the wearer.

That works. My nephew's b'day is Dec. 28.

/and he thinks he's getting a Phillies' T-shirt. ;-)

673 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:25:09am

re: #664 littleoldlady

Things are going fairly well, actually. My brother (the family idiot) was worried that because he's voting for Obama I wouldn't be sending his son a Chanukah present. I wanted to show him that there's no hard feelings, and we ARE after all, family, so I sent my nephew's present early.

A nice fresh copy of The Communist Manifesto.

/Now, who should my next victim be...

i'm sorry to say that a local collection of tribe members are going to get a surprise from myself & 2H6 for Chanukah....

we want to do something locally that requires a bit of interaction, both in the community and with various govt agencies. the would be local boss grabbed the reigns, and tried to cut out all but his selected friends as he ran on down the road.

that didn't run well @ my AO, or on others.... and now were're implementing Plan B.

(B as in Blindside...... %-)

674 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:25:43am

re: #671 wahabicorridor

Ok, I'm cheerful - think I'll go lay down and try to get a few winks in.

Good luck. :-/

675 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:25:57am

re: #667 Boogberg

I had a liquid *wink wink* supper last night so I'm really hungry this morning, Littleoldlady. I need meat and lots of it. :D

she's kinda scrawny..... can we interest you in a breakfast steak instead?

676 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:26:45am

re: #672 littleoldlady

If Obama gets elected, you can tell him you're sending him something educational to go along with the shirt. (;

677 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:27:19am

re: #675 redc1c4

she's kinda scrawny..... can we interest you in a breakfast steak instead?

I wish. :-(

/thanks to Obama (and Ben & Jerry's) I gained back some of the weight I lost.
//chocolate therapy DOES have a downside...

678 LindaMarie  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:27:35am

re: #666 wahabicorridor
I believe that this will be the result of Obama if he gets elected. I also believe that scare tactics backfire, let it go.

679 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:28:30am

OY. wahabicorridor is 666th.

680 redc1c4  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:28:53am

re: #677 littleoldlady

I wish. :-(

/thanks to Obama (and Ben & Jerry's) I gained back some of the weight I lost.
//chocolate therapy DOES have a downside...

i thought it was "side to side".......

/white smoke

681 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:29:09am

morning lol
a fruitcup with handles please?
Has the whole world gone mad?
I am just really upset!

State police say an upstate New York college campus policeman was helping himself to donuts at a local convenience store.
The Valero Nice N Easy offers free coffee to any police officer in uniform.
Sgt. Steve Brody of the Morrisville State College University Police stopped daily to buy a newspaper and pick up a free cup of coffee. He also routinely stuffed a donut into his coat.
Brody is now accused of taking about $30 worth of pastries over at least 17 separate occasions.
Brody, 55, of Morrisville, was ticketed for petty larceny. Troopers say they have surveillance videos.
Brody and his defense attorney declined to comment. Brody remains an employee at Morrisville; school officials say the case is a personnel matter and refused further comment.
682 Boogberg  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:29:33am

LMAO!

Watch yo mouth! :D

683 wahabicorridor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:30:03am

Oh, this is a partial email from a friend who had business in Russia:

came back 2 weeks ago. Moscow is in a world of hurt. Their stock value was reduced in half over night (only 7% of Russians own stock) and with the price of oil dropping like a stone-- oy. After seeing the lack of infrastructure there, I wouldn't worry about them trying to project their "power" to far. Their ICBMs are their only ace in the hole. Most Europeans do not know the seriousness of all this as it effects different countries differently. The amount of money lent by Western European banks to risky investments in the third world is just starting to be noticed. The unapologetic hatred of McCain (or anything Republican) over here is sick.

I just heard someone on Lou Dobbs saying that Europe's exposure to emerging markets is something like SIX TIMES what our financial meltdown has cost so far.

684 Ghost707  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:30:33am

McCain is going to win this election.
Too many people know about the tape that the LA Times is hiding for Obama. The cover up is now becoming worse than what may actually be on the tape.
Too many people are afraid of what will happen in a Obama thugocracy.

Joe the plumber and Sarah Palin will drag McCain across the finish line first.

VOTE!

685 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:32:47am

re: #681 ibmkeyboard

ibm! :-)

What a world! What a world!
© The Wicked Witch of the West

686 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:34:48am

re: #683 wahabicorridor

Our economy will survive. We're adaptable, not to mention hard workers. But the rest of the world may have a new excuse to hate us.

687 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:35:15am

re: #686 littleoldlady

Addendum:

Assuming McCain wins, that is.

688 rightside  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:36:51am

re: #684 Ghost707

don't forget Tito the builder too!

689 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:37:46am

re: #686 littleoldlady

They always have an excuse to hate us.

Doesn't stop some of their citizens from coming to our shores to try to make it big though.

690 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:38:05am

Ghost! :-)

rightside! :-)

691 rightside  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:38:39am

{lol}

692 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:44:34am

re: #671 wahabicorridor

And yet when the Germans finally gave up at Stalingrad, they had something like 600 TONS of food and supplies that their quartermaster general had been 'saving for an emergency'...

/wish I had a linkie

693 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:44:53am

Dinner, and a THREAD WAKE UP! for you all.

694 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:47:25am

re: #693 laZardo

BBL, I'm going to dinner, that is.

695 rightside  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:47:53am

re: #693 laZardo

I want my 10 seconds back.

696 shiplord kirel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:48:54am

Earlier today I joined a large part of the civilized world in heaping scorn on the latest pronouncement from lefty skank and noted literary poseur Erica Jong.
Turns out it was worse than I thought, for Jong is also an accursed 9-11 troofer:

Jong has publicly questioned the official version of the September 11, 2001 attacks. She has made an appearance on Showbiz Tonight and more recently on Real Time with Bill Maher. Jong has openly expressed her support for Charlie Sheen in his 9/11-related interviews, calling him "a brave man."

697 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:50:09am

re: #692 Karridine

And yet when the Germans finally gave up at Stalingrad, they had something like 600 TONS of food and supplies that their quartermaster general had been 'saving for an emergency'...

/wish I had a linkie

Hitler also delivered a plane load of condoms and summer clothes.

How could a Russian woman date a guy in summer clothes and it 60- degrees below zero?

698 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:52:21am

re: #696 shiplord kirel

Her books were weird, too.

shiplord! :-)

699 imploder  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:54:02am

For a laugh:

Redstate update

Youtube Video

700 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:56:44am

re: #695 rightside

Well, it woke the thread up. q:

701 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:57:02am

re: #697 ibmkeyboard

In Soviet Russia, condoms wear YOU!

/wait...

702 Purre  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 2:59:25am

I am quite certain that McCain will win by fair margin. I'd say he gets electoral votes of somewhere between 280 and 370. The election map will be quite red on november 5th.

Oh, and while you may get the idea that world is against McCain, don't let the media fool you. There are a lot of people who prefer republicans for various reasons. Besides, at least in Europe many countries have experienced shift to the right - even under these economic conditions. For example here in Finland more and more people have realized that political right is more favourable to small and medium sized companies (which are the ones who truly employ people and bring the food to table for vast majority), while left benefits only large companies - if even those. And no job means no prospects - even if country has good social security benefits. So left lost plenty of voters and political balance shifted to the right.

703 imploder  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:01:40am

re: #570 lummox

B.R.A.S.S. = trigger discipline

Breathe
Relax
Aim
Slack
Squeeze.

Failure to fire drill M16A2:

Slap (base of magazine)
Pull (charging handle)
Observe (see what or what does not pop out of ejection port)
Release (charging handle)
Tap (bolt forward button)
Shoot (enemy)

704 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:04:33am

re: #702 Purre

GOOD points!

Add to that, Gordon Brown's government representative had nothing nice to say about Obama. Sarkozy slammed him, but good. The German's said, "Yeah, right. Don't hold your breath." when Obama asked them to send triips to Afghanistan.

So far, I see the whole world lovin' The Messiah, even before he's elected.

/dripping with oodles of sarcasm...

Oh, and very soon Israel will have the Likud party in power.

/Obamski HATES Likudniks
//WHEEEEEEEE!

705 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:05:23am

re: #704 littleoldlady

All that hope is triggering my inner Murphy reflexes. D:

706 wahabicorridor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:05:48am

re: #702 Purre


Finland, eh? I don't believe I've ever met anyone from your fair land before - howdy!

Well, I hear the Dutch are losing people (over at No Parasan, I think) - to Belgium and Germany and the UK has been bleeding for awhile.

707 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:08:29am

re: #706 wahabicorridor

Don't worry, Obama will stem the tide of the conservonazi advance and save the principles of democracy and tolerance!

//////////////////////

/has probably wasted sarc-slash allocation for the rest of the year.

708 saltmarsh  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:11:52am

Does anyone know how to piss away 600 million dollars and only end up with a set of fake greek columns?

/quite the resume you got there Chuck.

709 Dustyvet  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:13:34am

re: #36 Pawn of the Oppressor

I would pay real money to see Obama put through USMC boot camp. Communicating with less than twenty words? Nobody around with a law degree or leftist street cred? No nuance? Lots of yelling and insults? DIs tearing him to bits?

Real. Money. I'd pay it. I'd give Obama back his tax credit just to see that happen. I would laugh my stupid head off.

The Crucible

For 54 straight hours, recruits’ endurance, teamwork and skills will be pushed to the limit. Through perseverance and courage, they will finish as platoons and earn the title Marine.

During The Crucible, recruits face:

• Obstacles that must be negotiated as a team
• Day and nighttime marches
• Night infiltration movement
• Combat resupply and casualty evacuation scenarios
• Combat field firing as a team
• Minimal food and sleep, simulating combat
• Leadership tests
• Core values training

Obama would never make it through The Crucible...

710 shiplord kirel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:14:40am

re: #698 littleoldlady

Her books were weird, too.

shiplord! :-)

Btw, one of the paranoid lefties commenting at the New York Observer's original Jong article has raised the Iraqi civilian death toll in the current war to 4 million. Last year, turncoat radio goebbelist Jay Diamond put it at 2 million. In 2005, the now notorious Lancet study put it at 600,000.
Extrapolating this rate of increase, I find that the left will assert within 18 months that the entire Iraqi population of 27 million has been wiped out, and will be hard-pressed to explain why anyone still lives there.

711 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:15:57am

re: #710 shiplord kirel

There'll probably be a few left, only enslaved by the American-run system to help big oil companies extract their black gold on the cheap!

///////////////

/there goes next year's...

712 wahabicorridor  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:16:18am

Paul Johnson in Forbes on the financial crisis.

If we seriously wish to repair the damage, we need to accept that this is fundamentally a moral crisis, not a financial one. It is the product of the self-indulgence and complacency born of our ultraliberal societies, which have substituted such pseudo-religions as political correctness and saving the planet for genuine distinctions between right and wrong and the cultivation of real virtues.

713 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:18:22am

re: #711 laZardo

I'll give you some of mine.

/redistribution of slashes

714 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:19:34am

Has anyone bothered to do a study of the effects of Obama's tax plan on charitable giving?

715 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:20:06am

re: #713 littleoldlady

Thank ye kindly! I'll try to get my friendly, neighborhood ACORN guy to get the higher-ups to grant you a slash-tax exemption. (: We want to make sure our senior citizens are taken care of for all their hard work!

/

716 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:21:13am

Good morning, Lizards

717 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:21:49am

re: #715 laZardo

Thank ye kindly! I'll try to get my friendly, neighborhood ACORN guy to get the higher-ups to grant you a slash-tax exemption. (: We want to make sure our senior citizens are taken care of for all their hard work!

/

Okay. I take back my slashs!

/whippersnapper!

You're on your own now.

/just like in the "old America"...

718 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:23:27am

re: #717 littleoldlady

That's not fair! You can't take back what you just redistributed! That's racist!

/ reserve slashes

719 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:23:35am

Good morning, goddess! :-)

My fellow racist, redneck, bitter, gun-clinger, bible-thumper.

How're things looking on your end of the state?

720 NR Pax  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:24:07am

re: #709 Dustyvet


For 54 straight hours, recruits’ endurance, teamwork and skills will be pushed to the limit. Through perseverance and courage, they will finish as platoons and earn the title Marine.

Been there, done it, lived it. And it really sucked at the time. As if that wasn't enough, I was 28 when I did it.

Obama would never make it through The Crucible...

Mostly because it requires you to actually be part of a team, as a follower as well as a leader and you have to be able to trust the people that are with you.

721 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:25:58am

littleoldlady,

Oh, I'm so glad you're here. I want to ask you a question.

But first........... I feel sorry for the little fur munchkins today. :-( [Link: www.dailypuppy.com...]

722 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:27:08am

re: #719 littleoldlady

Good morning, goddess! :-)

My fellow racist, redneck, bitter, gun-clinger, bible-thumper.

How're things looking on your end of the state?

{littleoldlady}

Yard sign count pretty even. It's a college town, so many university-connected people are moonbattish and of course, they know everything so there's no point in discussing concerns about Obama.

723 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:27:13am

re: #721 nonic

I'm ALWAYS glad when YOU'RE here!

nonic! :-)

724 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:28:01am

re: #721 nonic

Caption: Why dogs bite their owners.

725 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:28:43am

re: #722 goddessoftheclassroom

That's actually pretty good! Our college towns are LOADED with Obama signs.

726 rightside  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:31:02am

re: #716 goddessoftheclassroom

morning goddess.

727 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:34:10am

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious

728 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:35:31am

re: #727 nonic

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious

He stood by his his decisions, based on what he believed to be true, with honor and courage. Those who lack those characteristics tend to attack those who have them.

729 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:35:37am

re: #727 nonic

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious

I have no idea either. I wish he was tougher on immigration and tougher on Saudi Arabia, but I've wondered this myself. What the hell has he done to garner such hatred? It boggles my mind.

730 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:36:24am

re: #727 nonic

President Bush didn't please ALL the People ALL the time...

731 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:36:41am

re: #727 nonic

You were supposed to memorize the slogans, for goodness sakes!

/sheesh! get with the program!

Bush lied - people died!
No blood for oil!

and yaddayaddayadda...

732 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:38:04am

Cats and dogs in stupid costumes.

I saw two cute ones. A turtle with a Jaws dorsal fin on his back held by an elastic band. And a dog with his back legs in a suit that ................

Oh, hell, I can't describe it. I'll see if I can find the pics.

733 yochanan  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:38:47am

re: #709 Dustyvet

The Crucible

For 54 straight hours, recruits’ endurance, teamwork and skills will be pushed to the limit. Through perseverance and courage, they will finish as platoons and earn the title Marine.

During The Crucible, recruits face:

• Obstacles that must be negotiated as a team
• Day and nighttime marches
• Night infiltration movement
• Combat resupply and casualty evacuation scenarios
• Combat field firing as a team
• Minimal food and sleep, simulating combat
• Leadership tests
• Core values training

Obama would never make it through The Crucible...

WE KNOW JOHN HAD HIS TEST IN THE HANIO HILTON

734 Ghost707  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:39:36am

re: #714 littleoldlady

Has anyone bothered to do a study of the effects of Obama's tax plan on charitable giving?


Yes.
The U.S. becomes Venezuela - only much poorer.

735 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:39:52am

This isn't it, but some DAMNED cute pictures. :-)
[Link: www.cuteoverload.com...]

736 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:40:23am

Good Morning all.
FNC reporting that the Obama Campaign is working closely with Acorn's , Project Hope. They are turning over their list of donors that have maxed their contributions. they can still kick in to project Hope & Kirsten Powers didn't even bother to deny the story.

737 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:41:26am

73 per cent of MSNBC's stories have been negative about McCain v. 13 per cent about BHO.

738 summergurl  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:41:36am

re: #727 nonic

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious

It's not what he has or hasn't done - it's that he's not Kerry.

739 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:42:38am

Oooooh. Fox just showed the "Dear Mr. Obama" video.

740 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:43:43am

re: #733 yochanan

We know John McCain PASSED his tests in the Hanoi Hilton!

/Obama couldn't make it through US Army basic, let alone Marine Crucible, Yo!

741 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:46:35am

re: #738 summergurl

It's not what he has or hasn't done - it's that he's not Kerry.

Close. GORE.

I actually have a lot of complaints about Bush...he's just about the worst communicator we've had in a President in a long time, some of his economic policies were questionable, bringing James Baker (WHO I DID NOT VOTE FOR) into the picture in his second term, Condi Rice, as Matrix said, disasterous immigration policies (but that's universal in our government)...

I am ready to move on, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to throw out the baby with the bath water!

742 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:46:55am

re: #720 NR Pax

Mostly because it requires you to actually be part of a team, as a follower as well as a leader and you have to be able to trust the people that are with you.

Would you/I follow Obama into combat?

Would I let my son- grandson- daughter follow him into a war even with Venezuela?

My thoughts-

screw that!

743 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:48:36am

re: #727 nonic

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious

The real cause of the hatred is the Floridan recount. THe Libs to this day think that the election was stolen for Gore by the Supreme Court.
Right after 9/11 Bush was pretty much above criticism, although their was some troofer activity & grumbleing about Afghanistan, but muted.
The U.S clobbers Sadam, but the occupation was not like clockwork & that opened the door for the Libs to pounce.
I still think that it all goes back to Florida.

744 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:50:12am

Who's that stupid woman on F&F?

Hey lady, McCain is talking about the LA Times for two reasons--

1) This is a prime example of the media controlling the election. The biases and double standards are sickening. The media is dying a slow death, and the public needs to see it.

2) This video DOES have everything to do with the election. It's not just throwing to see what sticks. It speaks volumes of his judgment. What the hell do you think he'll do in the multiple crises we find ourselves in? Where do you think he gets his judgment and views from?

STUPID.

745 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:50:26am

goddess
matrix
karridine
littleoldlady

OH! So it isn't just me!

Then it's REALLY scary, I guess. Because that sounds like what it is -- or a large part, anyway --- is the democrat and media campaigns to turn Bush into an albatross to hang around McCain's neck.

goddess, want to tell us about the albatross thing, which as I recall used to be called a "conceit" but they don't call it that anymore, do they?. Is that the same as what they call a "meme" now? What is a "meme" now?

746 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:51:27am

re: #742 ibmkeyboard

Keyboard, I believe that IF ( big if ) Obama were to finagle his way into the White House, he'd use American troops to control Americans, in Montana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Louisiana... you name it, all over America where Americans were trying to leave, he'd bring military might to bear... AGAINST Americans!

747 NR Pax  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:53:10am

re: #742 ibmkeyboard

If I was still in the Corps, then yes I would but only because he would be the CIC, regardless of my opinion of him. I would not be happy about it, but I would keep my mouth shut until I had my Honorable Discharge in my hand.

748 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:53:16am

re: #746 Karridine

Not American troops, Karridine. He'd make deep cuts into the defense budget so he could form his National Militia.

/oy. blood pressure spike...

749 yochanan  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:54:17am

re: #735 nonic

This isn't it, but some DAMNED cute pictures. :-)
[Link: www.cuteoverload.com...]

TO DAMN CUTE EXCEPT FOR THE GOAT NOTHING IN THERE THAT I MIGHT EAT.

750 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:54:38am

re: #745 nonic

Then it's REALLY scary, I guess. Because that sounds like what it is -- or a large part, anyway --- is the democrat and media campaigns to turn Bush into an albatross to hang around McCain's neck.

There is a report linked, above, by an ex-campaign worker for Hillary, who then worked for Obama, and she says 'Destroying and disheartening the Republicans is and has been the ONLY strategy Obama has! He cannot allow any discussion of the specifics, because he'll reveal who he is, AND because every time that's happened so far McCain gains in the polls!' (paraphrasing)

751 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:54:41am

re: #742 ibmkeyboard

Would you/I follow Obama into combat?

Would I let my son- grandson- daughter follow him into a war even with Venezuela?

My thoughts-

screw that!

Speaking of which, check out my curiously-related #581.

752 guzziguy  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:55:02am

re: #696 shiplord kirel

Earlier today I joined a large part of the civilized world in heaping scorn on the latest pronouncement from lefty skank and noted literary poseur Erica Jong.
Turns out it was worse than I thought, for Jong is also an accursed 9-11 troofer:

Well, you do have to admit that Jong knows how to bring a "tower" down.

/sorry /no, really sorry /no, I'll just hush and leave now.

753 NR Pax  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:55:09am

re: #746 Karridine

I have a feeling that if he tried that, he would see how quickly the military can disobey him. I have some faith on that point.

754 Ghost707  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:55:12am

re: #727 nonic

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious

I'll give it a shot.

When 9/11 happened - President Bush turned into Winston Churchill,
made the rest of the world look bad by actually doing something about terrorism.
Which then led to the uncovering of the oil for food scandal at the U.N. - thus pissing everyone else off by showing the U.N. was nothing more than a board of international criminals.

I could go on - but I think these are the main points why all the bad people on this planet do not like President Bush.

755 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:55:14am

re: #746 Karridine

Well, it's an army for national DEFENSE, isn't it? Not to exercise the imperialist whims of a power-hungry neocon!

/

756 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:56:05am

re: #745 nonic

goddess
matrix
karridine
littleoldlady

OH! So it isn't just me!

Then it's REALLY scary, I guess. Because that sounds like what it is -- or a large part, anyway --- is the democrat and media campaigns to turn Bush into an albatross to hang around McCain's neck.

goddess, want to tell us about the albatross thing, which as I recall used to be called a "conceit" but they don't call it that anymore, do they?. Is that the same as what they call a "meme" now? What is a "meme" now?

The albatross is an allusion to "The Ancient Mariner" by Coleridge. It's a kind of metaphor. I don't think it's the same a a meme, which is invented culturally, not poetically, but the idea of symbolism is the same.

757 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:56:32am

re: #744 TheMatrix31

Who's that stupid woman on F&F?

Hey lady, McCain is talking about the LA Times for two reasons--

1) This is a prime example of the media controlling the election. The biases and double standards are sickening. The media is dying a slow death, and the public needs to see it.

2) This video DOES have everything to do with the election. It's not just throwing to see what sticks. It speaks volumes of his judgment. What the hell do you think he'll do in the multiple crises we find ourselves in? Where do you think he gets his judgment and views from?

STUPID.


They're making this LAT tape look toxic.They seem scared to death of it.
The committment to their source to supress the tape is not credible. It took days for them to come up with that.
The Dem pundit says that she has no fears of Obama supporting Israel, since that's what president's do. she just ignores that there has never been a major candidate like Obama.

758 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:56:55am

re: #753 NR Pax

You'n me both, Pax! Something about '...do solemnly swear to defend the Constitution... from enemies foreign and domestic...'

759 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:57:55am

re: #757 opnion

They're making this LAT tape look toxic.They seem scared to death of it.
The committment to their source to supress the tape is not credible. It took days for them to come up with that.
The Dem pundit says that she has no fears of Obama supporting Israel, since that's what president's do. she just ignores that there has never been a major candidate like Obama.

Yep.

Whatever, good night peoples.

760 shiplord kirel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:58:31am

re: #727 nonic

Now.

littleoldlady -- and anybody else -- goddess, I see you're here :-), and shiplord -- familiar nics make me feel more at home.

So. Anyway. This is what I was wondering.......... I know that I'm supposed to be angry with G.W. Bush, persona non grata. But I'm danged if I can remember why.

Call me dumb (I don't care), accuse me of not having been paying attention (which is largely true), or blame it on my failing memory (which God knows is getting to be a real nuisance), but I just don't know exactly what it is he's done or hasn't done that's earned him nearly universal disdain.

So, could somebody help me out here?

/ not sarcastic -- I'm serious


There are plenty of legitimate complaints about Bush, the most serious in my mind being his initial mismanagement of the Iraq war.

Even so, the real causes of Bush Derangement Syndrome are his speaking style and media presence. Both are unacceptable by media culture standards, yet a majority of the American people found him convincing enough to elect him president twice.

This is a slap in the face to the media industrial complex, its value system, and its stock in trade, the peddling of manufactured images.

761 yochanan  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:59:01am

re: #740 Karridine

What do John McCain and B.O. have in common?

BOTH WERE SURROUNDED BY COMMIES WHEN THEY WERE IN THERE 20'S

762 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 3:59:21am

re: #743 opnion

"The real cause of the hatred is the Floridan recount. "

You know, even since Bush v. Gore I've told me kids and anyone else that THERE was the example of what makes us a civilized nation. There was a court challenge, but NO TANKS IN THE STREET.

This time I'm not so sure it will be that way. Maybe not tanks sent by the government, but violence. Apparently police in many cities are getting ready for violence in case The One doesn't win.

And another thing. What the hell is this "civilian security force" that Bam Bam wants to establish "as large, as powerful, as well equipped and funded as the military"?

763 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:00:40am

re: #757 opnion

Since they won't release it, it IS toxic AND viral. We can only assume the tape DOES show Obama saying, "Israel has no G-d given right to 'Palestine' ", and "The Israelis are conducting genocide against the 'Palestinian people' ".

PROVE ME WRONG, LA TIMES. RELEASE THE TAPE!

764 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:00:43am

re: #760 shiplord kirel

The real causes of Bush Derangement Syndrome are his speaking style and media presence policies. Both are unacceptable by media culture any standards, yet a majority of the American people found him convincing were stupid enough to elect him president twice.

/fix'd, media style

765 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:00:53am

re: #746 Karridine

Keyboard, I believe that IF ( big if ) Obama were to finagle his way into the White House, he'd use American troops to control Americans, in Montana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Louisiana... you name it, all over America where Americans were trying to leave, he'd bring military might to bear... AGAINST Americans!

We southern boys would lock and load and any Bambibots cross our porch would need a medic.

If Jews in Germany could/would have had guns in their homes,
Hitlers only army would have been the Navy.

766 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:02:00am

re: #762 nonic

"The real cause of the hatred is the Floridan recount. "

You know, even since Bush v. Gore I've told me kids and anyone else that THERE was the example of what makes us a civilized nation. There was a court challenge, but NO TANKS IN THE STREET.

This time I'm not so sure it will be that way. Maybe not tanks sent by the government, but violence. Apparently police in many cities are getting ready for violence in case The One doesn't win.

And another thing. What the hell is this "civilian security force" that Bam Bam wants to establish "as large, as powerful, as well equipped and funded as the military"?

I've taken to calling them the S.S.

767 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:02:01am

[Link: www.funnyphotos.net.au...]

768 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:02:33am

re: #761 yochanan

What do John McCain and B.O. have in common?

BOTH WERE SURROUNDED BY COMMIES WHEN THEY WERE IN THERE 20'S

LOL

769 shiplord kirel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:02:39am

re: #746 Karridine

Keyboard, I believe that IF ( big if ) Obama were to finagle his way into the White House, he'd use American troops to control Americans, in Montana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Louisiana... you name it, all over America where Americans were trying to leave, he'd bring military might to bear... AGAINST Americans!

As a retired field grade officer of the United States Army, I can assure you that this can't happen. The forces involved, from privates to generals, would simply tell him to get stuffed. Their oath is to the nation and Constitution, not to their designated superiors. Every American soldier has not only a right, but an obligation, to refuse unlawful orders. Obama would have to use his hastily trained party militia, probably using the military's refusal of orders as a rationale for emergency decrees.

770 NR Pax  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:02:57am

re: #758 Karridine

Yeah, I seem to remember saying something like that a while back with my hand in the air at the same time. -;-)

771 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:03:13am

re: #765 ibmkeyboard

We southern boys would lock and load and any Bambibots cross our porch would need a medic. coroner.
Fixed!

If Jews in Germany could/would have had guns in their homes,
Hitlers only army would have been the Navy.

772 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:03:21am

Off I go...Happy Halloween, dead Lizards!

773 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:03:59am

Today, we are all zombie!

774 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:04:01am

re: #772 goddessoftheclassroom

Happy Halloween to ye' too.

/and All Saints and All Souls, just in case I'm not on by then. (;

775 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:04:09am

re: #765 ibmkeyboard

As interesting as this FNDT is, its 1800 here in suburban Bangkok, and a thunderstorm is rolling in... If the grid takes a lightning hit, it'll fry my HD... happened before.. so I'm outta here til the morrow...

Y'all stay mindful, and alert, and keep yr sense of humor... that's one of the things that separates us from the humorless Them! :D

776 tappin52  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:04:16am

re: #756 goddessoftheclassroom

The albatross is an allusion to "The Ancient Mariner" by Coleridge. It's a kind of metaphor. I don't think it's the same a a meme, which is invented culturally, not poetically, but the idea of symbolism is the same.

Goddess, your teacher is showing.

777 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:04:20am

re: #762 nonic

"The real cause of the hatred is the Floridan recount. "

You know, even since Bush v. Gore I've told me kids and anyone else that THERE was the example of what makes us a civilized nation. There was a court challenge, but NO TANKS IN THE STREET.

This time I'm not so sure it will be that way. Maybe not tanks sent by the government, but violence. Apparently police in many cities are getting ready for violence in case The One doesn't win.

And another thing. What the hell is this "civilian security force" that Bam Bam wants to establish "as large, as powerful, as well equipped and funded as the military"?


This mammoth Palace Guard is a really frightening concept.
The media has pretty much ignored it.
Why would a President Barry want a personal force that could go toe to toe with the military? Hmmm

778 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:05:02am

re: #775 Karridine

Cheers, Karridine, from 7PM in nice, cool Manila!

779 guzziguy  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:06:16am

re: #762 nonic

"

And another thing. What the hell is this "civilian security force" that Bam Bam wants to establish "as large, as powerful, as well equipped and funded as the military"?

Just look up and read about the "Gestapo" and you'll understand perfectly well.
That was a very successful civilian security force.

780 NC State of Mind  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:06:18am

Good (non payday) Friday Lizards! Got my two Sarah Palin tickets for tommorow, and I can't wait to get there!

781 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:06:18am

re: #777 opnion

re: #762 nonic

"I think...uh...that the media took this way out of context. I meant that the money we save from wars that I- uh...the people never supported will be used to bolster the National Guard."

/taking bets on when he'll say something like that?

782 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:06:49am

re: #769 shiplord kirel

As a retired field grade officer of the United States Army, I can assure you that this can't happen. The forces involved, from privates to generals, would simply tell him to get stuffed. Their oath is to the nation and Constitution, not to their designated superiors. Every American soldier has not only a right, but an obligation, to refuse unlawful orders. Obama would have to use his hastily trained party militia, probably using the military's refusal of orders as a rationale for emergency decrees.

Agreed, but this would be, in effect, America's first military coup, wouldn't it? Refusal to obey Obama's orders, followed by... what HE would loudly call 'Mutiny!'

Eenteresting, veddy eenterestink!

783 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:07:38am

re: #782 Karridine

Agreed, but this would be, in effect, America's first military coup, wouldn't it? Refusal to obey Obama's orders, followed by... what HE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE would loudly call 'Mutiny!'

Eenteresting, veddy eenterestink!

/a tactical move on his part?

784 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:08:10am

re: #781 laZardo

re: #762 nonic

"I think...uh...that the media took this way out of context. I meant that the money we save from wars that I- uh...the people never supported will be used to bolster the National Guard."

/taking bets on when he'll say something like that?

How about,'While I spread the wealth, I will also spread the ammo."

785 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:08:14am

re: #780 NC State of Mind

Take pix, for us Wannabees, eh? Post em online...

786 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:09:24am

re: #765 ibmkeyboard

We southern boys would lock and load and any Bambibots cross our porch would need a medic.

Love those!

787 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:09:33am

re: #782 Karridine

Agreed, but this would be, in effect, America's first military coup, wouldn't it? Refusal to obey Obama's orders, followed by... what HE would loudly call 'Mutiny!'

Eenteresting, veddy eenterestink!

The question is, would it work?

I don't think that the American people would stand for tactics like that from BO.

And the peacenics would have lots of cattle. Well they would if they were truly peacenics....

788 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:09:59am

re: #772 goddessoftheclassroom

Off I go...Happy Halloween, dead Lizards!

TRICK OR TREAT!

789 Karridine  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:10:50am

re: #787 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Agreed, Pulchritude...

Now, here comes my storm, so I rilly rilly gotta go!

CUL

790 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:11:34am

re: #754 Ghost707

There's probably truth in what you say. Also, I think it's the same as with Palin -- a cultural snobbishness on the part of the "elites." Bush and Palin come across as "good ol boys" and Christian, and their "betters" just can't abide that.

I'm not dismissing what you said, littleoldlady. But I do think it's as much or MORE style than substance that at the bottom of it. The Bush v. Gore thing ("stolen election"), I think is a good point.

791 shiplord kirel  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:12:02am

re: #782 Karridine

Agreed, but this would be, in effect, America's first military coup, wouldn't it? Refusal to obey Obama's orders, followed by... what HE would loudly call 'Mutiny!'

Eenteresting, veddy eenterestink!

Not necessarily. Refusing an order is one thing, taking active measures to overthrow the government is something else. He could declare it mutiny, of course, but he would have hell arresting all of them or, for that matter, any of them.

792 NC State of Mind  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:12:11am

re: #785 Karridine

Take pix, for us Wannabees, eh? Post em online...

The fiancee will have 500 taken and uploaded by Sunday morning, guaranteed.

793 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:12:18am

I have a question.

This election cycle, we have seen the death of the MSM as a medium.

Will this also mark the beginning of the end of polls as a "predictor" of election night results?

794 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:13:44am

re: #791 shiplord kirel

Not necessarily. Refusing an order is one thing, taking active measures to overthrow the government is something else. He could declare it mutiny, of course, but he would have hell arresting all of them or, for that matter, any of them.


Especially seeing as the military have all the really cool weapons! What's BO gonna do, throw arrugula at them?

795 guzziguy  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:13:45am

re: #793 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I have a question.

This election cycle, we have seen the death of the MSM as a medium.

Will this also mark the beginning of the end of polls as a "predictor" of election night results?

If the election goes to McCain I don't see how it could not.

796 NR Pax  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:13:56am

re: #793 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

We can dream, can't we?

797 NR Pax  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:14:36am

re: #794 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm still locked up at the image of him trying to give orders without a teleprompter handy.

798 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:15:40am

re: #793 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I have a question.

This election cycle, we have seen the death of the MSM as a medium.

Will this also mark the beginning of the end of polls as a "predictor" of election night results?


They just had Fla Governor Crist on FNC. Things are breaking McCains way now in his state. It looks more & more like it could come down to Ohio. Is that state already stolen?

799 littleoldlady  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:15:59am

Who do I have to bribe around here to get Firefox to stop crashing every few minutes?!

800 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:16:25am

re: #795 guzziguy

If the election goes to McCain I don't see how it could not.


They are so easily skewed. I'd put more faith in a poll if the names were taken at random from a database of LIKELY voters, and a sampling of 5000 from every state for a national poll.

801 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:17:28am

re: #798 opnion

They just had Fla Governor Crist on FNC. Things are breaking McCains way now in his state. It looks more & more like it could come down to Ohio. Is that state already stolen?


I think so...Ohio is totally stolen.

802 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:19:16am

re: #776 tappin52

Goddess, your teacher is showing.

Yeah, but I ASKED her to tell us. :-)

And thank you, goddess.

803 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:19:17am

re: #801 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I think so...Ohio is totally stolen.


That's what I think. The Republicans should have a swat team of lawyers hanging out at the court house in Ohio.

804 tappin52  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:19:25am

I think Obama, should he win, will have a bit of a hard time with even those who are salivating over receiving a bit of his "wealth spread". He and his wife have stated that they will require "service" of some sort. The lazy who want the handouts will not do anything for anybody else. Their inspiration comes from the community organizer who roused them into thinking that they were oppressed and not getting what they deserved. Good luck rallying that group to work, O.

805 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:19:47am

re: #784 opnion

How about,'While I spread the wealth, I will also spread the ammo."

Praise the Lord!

/is an agnostic but you get the idea q=

806 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:20:52am

re: #803 opnion

That's what I think. The Republicans should have a swat team of lawyers hanging out at the court house in Ohio.


Should? They better have! If they actually have any balls or any desire whatsoever of keeping the commie out of the Oval office.

807 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:22:19am

re: #777 opnion

"Massive palace guard."

Yeah, you know, it reminds me of the ancient Romans and Caesar's legions.

Very third world.

808 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:23:46am

re: #804 tappin52

I think Obama, should he win, will have a bit of a hard time with even those who are salivating over receiving a bit of his "wealth spread". He and his wife have stated that they will require "service" of some sort. The lazy who want the handouts will not do anything for anybody else. Their inspiration comes from the community organizer who roused them into thinking that they were oppressed and not getting what they deserved. Good luck rallying that group to work, O.

Well they could all become "Community Organizers".
We have some dude here whi calls himself Quanell X...he's such a whore. Surrounds himself with body guards and drives a Hummer...he will appear at the side of the "oppressed" for a price. The media here are so in the tank for this guy. I can't stand him.

809 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:23:53am

re: #804 tappin52

I think Obama, should he win, will have a bit of a hard time with even those who are salivating over receiving a bit of his "wealth spread". He and his wife have stated that they will require "service" of some sort. The lazy who want the handouts will not do anything for anybody else. Their inspiration comes from the community organizer who roused them into thinking that they were oppressed and not getting what they deserved. Good luck rallying that group to work, O.

Obama has followed the Saul Alinsky handbook, tap into misery. Where it does not exist, create it & mobilise people into action, in this case voting for him. That strategy does not translate into sacrafice.
They should remember that Michelle said, 'Barack ain't gonna let choo be the way you been."

810 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:25:50am

re: #806 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Should? They better have! If they actually have any balls or any desire whatsoever of keeping the commie out of the Oval office.

Would McCain oppose litigation for the good of the country? Nixon refused to litigate what appeared to be an election stolen for JFK in Texas & Illinois.

811 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:26:43am

re: #808 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Well they could all become "Community Organizers".
We have some dude here whi calls himself Quanell X...he's such a whore. Surrounds himself with body guards and drives a Hummer...he will appear at the side of the "oppressed" for a price. The media here are so in the tank for this guy. I can't stand him.

Does Sharpton charge an appearance fee?

812 tappin52  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:26:48am

re: #808 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Well they could all become "Community Organizers".
We have some dude here whi calls himself Quanell X...he's such a whore. Surrounds himself with body guards and drives a Hummer...he will appear at the side of the "oppressed" for a price. The media here are so in the tank for this guy. I can't stand him.

I've seen that guy on TV. He calls Sean Hannity a white devil. Unbearably arrogant.

813 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:26:53am

re: #799 littleoldlady

I had to give up Firefox. It completely killed me. Now I'm using Internet Explorer, which I DON'T like.

814 3 wood  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:26:53am

Good morning folks.

Look for the market to open down today as the Nikkei the the Hang Seng lost a few points over night, and the futures are down a couple points.

The Bank of Japan cut their discount rate to 0.3%, so I look for some speculators to start borrowing money from them and then convert it into other currencies and invest in potential higher yields elsewhere.

815 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:27:29am

re: #809 opnion

Obama has followed the Saul Alinsky handbook, tap into misery. Where it does not exist, create it & mobilise people into action, in this case voting for him. That strategy does not translate into sacrafice.
They should remember that Michelle said, 'Barack ain't gonna let choo be the way you been."


I can't stand the idea of that woman as First Lady....and can you imagine the fawning over the family? I still remember Amy Carter's tree house and all of the other press coverage of her and her cat, going to school, etc.

Or will we be treated to photos a'la the Kennedy kids?

816 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:28:20am

re: #811 MandyManners

Does Sharpton charge an appearance fee?


I don't know...maybe he's beyond that now, like Je$$ie Jack$on.

817 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:29:37am

re: #812 tappin52

I've seen that guy on TV. He calls Sean Hannity a white devil. Unbearably arrogant.


All whitey is the devil with this guy...you'd still think slavery were legal if you listen to him.

Funny thing is that he sounds like Mike Tyson when he talks.

818 nonic  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:30:29am

Well, I gotta go.

Everybody have a safe and fun Halloween. :-)

819 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:30:30am

egads! 15 minutes till I have to get dressed!

820 opnion  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:30:41am

re: #815 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I can't stand the idea of that woman as First Lady....and can you imagine the fawning over the family? I still remember Amy Carter's tree house and all of the other press coverage of her and her cat, going to school, etc.

Or will we be treated to photos a'la the Kennedy kids?

The media seems to think that an Obama White House would be a restoration of Camelot.
Michelle is not & will not become the new Jackie Kennedy.
The MSM will punish us continuously with the comparison , but it won't fly.

821 laZardo  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:30:41am

re: #817 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

All whitey is the devil with this guy...you'd still think slavery were legal if you listen to him.

Funny thing is that he sounds like Mike Tyson when he talks.

/snerking violently

822 NC State of Mind  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:31:14am

re: #790 nonic

There's probably truth in what you say. Also, I think it's the same as with Palin -- a cultural snobbishness on the part of the "elites." Bush and Palin come across as "good ol boys" and Christian, and their "betters" just can't abide that.

I agree. John 'two America's' Edwards would do well to take a look at what divisiveness his party is creating between groups in our society. The 'elites' have an exponential growth in their disdain for religious folk (read Christians), rural Americans, and now, it seems, Americans who make things for a living. Nothing angers me more for idiots to think they are intelligently discussing a topic they obviously know nothing about.

Just this week Andy Rooney wrote "there is not much intellectual discussion when religion is talked the topic." As a guy who studies theology as a hobby, this is laughable.

To listen to Bill Maher say (at least once every three weeks) some derivation of "Americans are just fucking dumb." makes my blood boil.

Lastly, to listen to our elected leaders spread so much bull about the ins and outs of a small business and how taxes are good for them makes me cringe. As a small business owner, I plan to hunker down, downsize, and weather the storm of idiocy. I have been greatly anticipating a VW plant being built in Chattanooga, as we could get business from them. Apparently, the city council is very liberal and wanted $60,000 per acre for the land. The lone conservative voice said he would give away the land to get the business. VW then set there eyes on Huntsville, but they didn't want VW b/c they don't want unions, which VW insists upon.

With all the mediocrity we are up against, its amazing we can do anything at all.

/rant off.

823 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:31:25am

re: #820 opnion

The media seems to think that an Obama White House would be a restoration of Camelot.
Michelle is not & will not become the new Jackie Kennedy.
The MSM will punish us continuously with the comparison , but it won't fly.


At least with the intelligent people.

824 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:31:33am

re: #632 Intrepid

Great article from Michael Novak

Good, but his editor needs to tell him about his overuse of the word? "dissing".

(And in Bill Buckley's magazine, no less.)

825 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:32:01am

re: #821 laZardo

/snerking violently


I know...maybe that's why he needs the body guards. I love good irony.

826 3 wood  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:33:40am

re: #804 tappin52

I think Obama, should he win, will have a bit of a hard time with even those who are salivating over receiving a bit of his "wealth spread". He and his wife have stated that they will require "service" of some sort. The lazy who want the handouts will not do anything for anybody else. Their inspiration comes from the community organizer who roused them into thinking that they were oppressed and not getting what they deserved. Good luck rallying that group to work, O.

Obama will use the tax system as a back door welfare system for his base. The "service" he is referring to, I believe, is taking assets from those who have it via the tax system and providing handouts to that base.

If he is successful in doing this, look for a very long hard recession. And there will be no such thing as enough for his Marxist intent to redistribute the wealth. Those receiving checks will just sit back and keep demanding more.

It could be the nightmare of a representative republic, a large group of voters have figured out that they can vote themselves free money at the cost of the other voters.

827 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Oct 31, 2008 4:35:29am

re: #822 NC State of Mind

Hear, hear!

The sad thing is that BO, if he wins, will actually drive this country into a DEPRESSION with his taxes.

One side of me says, good, maybe that would wake up the drooling idiots that support BO's plan. The other side of me says, NO, as I don't want to see my fellow Americans suffer that.

828 MandyManners