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Open | Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:24:39 pm PDT

An overnight open thread — user icons are temporarily disabled so we don’t start bogging down in the morning.

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1 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:24:56pm

Thanks

2 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:25:39pm

good evening to all?

3 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:25:40pm

You've got the power lone_wolf!

4 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:25:41pm

Now I can retire to the comfort of Mrs.Wolf's arms...

Good night everyone!

5 jaunte  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:11pm

Ah, a freshly pressed new green suit.

6 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:17pm
7 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:26pm

So everyone has my avatar now? I'm such a trend-setter!

/

8 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:28pm

re: #4 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Now I can retire to the comfort of Mrs.Wolf's arms...

Good night everyone!

Happiness is a warm wife.

9 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:37pm

Whew, for a moment there I thought I was logged off again. Thanks for the great community Charles.

/sleep well and weet dreams of bicycle rides.

10 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:53pm
11 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:26:59pm

re: #8 Moe Katz

Happiness is a warm wife.

. . . carrying a cold beer.

12 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:19pm

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

13 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:23pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

. . . carrying a cold beer.

Yes, even better.

14 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:48pm

re: #4 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Now I can retire to the comfort of Mrs.Wolf's arms...

Good night everyone!

Oh, thanks for that bit of info.

15 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:51pm

re: #11 Wyatt Earp

Where are the ladies?

/or is this a men's thread ; )

16 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:27:55pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Who wants ice cream?

Oh! Crap!

17 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:15pm

^^^^ is a lady.

18 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:35pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Who wants ice cream?

Too late for me. I don't have to go to bed just yet, but I can't afford sugar right now.

19 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:50pm

Woot. The Navy is going to name a destroyer after Michael Monsoor, the SEAL who threw himself on the grenade to save others.

20 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:51pm

re: #16 jcm

Oh! Crap!

Ha!

21 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:28:55pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Who wants ice cream?

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

22 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:05pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

Scariest bit is that the tests have come back positive!

23 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:21pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Poopsicles.

24 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:44pm
25 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:29:58pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Reminds me of the Full Metal Jacket quote: "It's a huge shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite."

26 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:05pm

re: #23 Moe Katz

Poopsicles.

Tastes like Fairness!

Now eat it, or shut the f-ck up, you racist!

27 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:28pm

Gracias Charles!

28 StudSupreme  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:37pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

A Scoop of Poop, to wax 'poetic' about it....................

29 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:39pm

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

30 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:49pm

re: #26 Pawn of the Oppressor

Tastes like Fairness!

Now eat it, or shut the f-ck up, you racist!

Everyone screams for that ice cream!

31 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:30:55pm

re: #26 Pawn of the Oppressor

Tastes like Fairness!

Now eat it, or shut the f-ck up, you racist!

Wash it down with a shot of Crème de Caca.

32 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:04pm

Reposted from the previous thread...I posted it as soon as this new thread got posted....

Maybe there could be a splash page on the front of LGF showing what's allowed and what's not allowed, and in order to bypass the screen, you have to do one of those keyword jumble things?

33 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:16pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

We need to talk to the chef....first a crap sandwich and now Shit Ice Cream....

34 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:24pm

On Hannity and Colmes, I just saw a video of Khalidi condemning the evils of CHICAGO and ILLINOIS corrupt politics. Anyone else catch that?
Anyone know of a link to same video?

/back to paying bills..........

35 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:31:27pm

I thought we were leaving the sh*t down thread!

36 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:32:16pm

re: #25 Wyatt Earp

Reminds me of the Full Metal Jacket quote: "It's a huge shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite."

I would pay real money to see Obama put through USMC boot camp. Communicating with less than twenty words? Nobody around with a law degree or leftist street cred? No nuance? Lots of yelling and insults? DIs tearing him to bits?

Real. Money. I'd pay it. I'd give Obama back his tax credit just to see that happen. I would laugh my stupid head off.

37 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:32:49pm

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

38 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:33:31pm

re: #32 TheMatrix31

It should be common sense. The fact that it isn't indicates a serious problem.

39 Griffon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:34:37pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

Boring and depressing.

40 El Lizardo mejicano  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:35:04pm

re: #32 TheMatrix31

Reposted from the previous thread...I posted it as soon as this new thread got posted....

Maybe there could be a splash page on the front of LGF showing what's allowed and what's not allowed, and in order to bypass the screen, you have to do one of those keyword jumble things?

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

41 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:35:09pm

I'm an election worker. While looking through my "roster of voters" earlier today I didn't see any new voters. ACORN probably figured the dems had Los Angeles County in the bag.

42 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:35:23pm
43 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:16pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

Thanks for the information. I just donated!

44 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:43pm

re: #41 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm an election worker. While looking through my "roster of voters" earlier today I didn't see any new voters. ACORN probably figured the dems had Los Angeles County in the bag.

Is there a big ACORN presence in LA?

45 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:52pm

re: #40 El Lizardo mejicano

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

I think the most trusted members mostly have lives.

46 TheMatrix31  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:36:56pm

re: #40 El Lizardo mejicano

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

Maybe we can have a National Civilian Defense Force ;)

47 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:11pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

I did. The Communist Manifesto writ in modern terms, the same victimology and same solutions. The revolution of the ballot box and not the bullet.

Our toleration of historical and political ignorance has brought us here.

48 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:11pm

re: #39 Griffon

That is what I heard......not quite the towering pillar of happiness he was in the primaries.....

49 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:29pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Nice.

50 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:37:47pm

re: #43 US Navy Wife

Thanks for the information. I just donated!

Wow - that was quick!

51 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:24pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

to be honest, DD, i turned it on...but within 2 mins or less i was nauseated. Had to shut er down.
Blecch...

52 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:25pm

re: #50 legalpad

It doesn't take long when you're a fast typist, and have memorized your credit card number. I didn't even have to get up.

53 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:37pm

re: #47 jcm

Hey JCM!

Hi and what did His Highness have to say about the new civilian force he wants to form? The notion of which, BTW, I find very scary.

54 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:38pm

And for all those out there you really want to know how you are voting.

/hint pollsters. :)

55 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:38:48pm

re: #12 rawmuse

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

Let's repeat the non-conformist's oath:

"I promise to be different!
I promise to be unique!
I promise not to repeat things other people say!"

Good!

56 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:30pm

How about those Phillies?

57 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:33pm

"Free Stuff.....get your free stuff here.....step right up, sonny....get your free stuff here...."

I think that is all many Obama supporters hear, and that is good enough for them.

58 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:39pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Seven Spanish Angels

Most Excellent Choice!

59 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:52pm

re: #40 El Lizardo mejicano

Or have 3 to 5 most trusted members to police the blog all day while Charles takes breaks..

Just my two cents.

I think there are five to six Monitor Lizards wandering around. Believe me, they do wield a mean stick.

/learned at the knee of Stinky Beaumont.

60 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:39:54pm

re: #44 Irene NYC

They mostly seem to be forcing cities into doing something with regard to housing, etc., but in past years I've seen a lot of kooks out in front of stores trying to make folks register, even if they had already done so. Can't say for sure they were really from Acorn but probably something similar.

61 Teacake!  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:27pm

All I can say is thank goodness arafat isn't a topic of discussion any more.

nite all!

62 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:33pm

Heh. Obama in boot camp.

"And what the fuck is your name, skinny?"
"Obama, sir!"
"And what do you do, mister ZERO-Bama?"
"I was a community organizer, sir!"
"Community organizer! Well I love organizers. I need things organized. But I don't think a beanpole pile of Chicago trash like you can organize anything! Can you, mister Obama?"
"Sir no sir!"
"No sir? What the fuck kind of answer is that? Are you not CONFIDENT, Private Obama?"
"Sir, I was trying to understand what Sir meant by-"
"Understand what I meant? ARE YOU SOME KIND OF FUCKING LAWYER, PRIVATE ZEROBAMA?"
"Sir, actually yes I am, sir!"
"A FUCKING LAWYER! WHO ORGANIZES things! Amazing! Well Mister sack of shit Lawer Organizer, you are now in charge of organizing latrine detail!"
"SIR YES SIR!"

63 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:39pm

re: #42 Noam Sayin'

Very interesting to watch Willie sing backup for Ray. Willie can ride the beat if he has to.

64 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:49pm

re: #46 TheMatrix31

LOL We'll wear green shirts.

65 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:50pm

re: #12 rawmuse

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

Unless Nobama wins. WHICH HE WILL NOT!

66 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:40:59pm

re: #56 outsidephilly

Congrats to the Phillies....the City of Brotherly Love was due

67 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:11pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

They should have paired that with this video

68 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:25pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

Just made a donation. My second donation this year.

McCain/Palin 08

69 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:31pm

re: #66 Desert Dog

Congrats to the Phillies....the City of Brotherly Love was due

It was a fun game to watch, too!

70 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:34pm

re: #53 Irene NYC

Hey JCM!

Hi and what did His Highness have to say about the new civilian force he wants to form? The notion of which, BTW, I find very scary.

He reiterated the idea, no details, he never has details. Whole thread on it last night. He first mentioned the idea in his July 2 speech (which is not posted on the Obama web site) I've been harping on that since then.

It's not only scary, it's unconstitutional. If he gets a super majority in congress and 2-3 SCOTUS picks it might fly.

71 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:37pm

I've gone to our early voting site four times this week. I've tried at 4:00, 2:00, 9:00 and 10:30.... each time, there was a line out the door. I've never seen anything like it for early voting. At this rate, Tuesday should be empty at my precinct!

72 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:41:56pm

re: #55 gmsc

It was the sight of us stripped of our avatars that inspired that thought.
I feel like we are all at a moonie wedding or something.

73 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:03pm

re: #52 US Navy Wife

It doesn't take long when you're a fast typist, and have memorized your credit card number. I didn't even have to get up.

I thought I was good with numbers. I don't even remember how many digits my cc's have - 16 maybe? And two finger typing only!

74 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:04pm

re: #29 Desert Dog

I know this was discussed last night ad nauseam, but did any of you actually sit down and watch the Obama Show last night? And, if you did, how was it?

I didn't, but I did hear Rush talk about the woman who claimed she had to ration milk and snacks for her children. Elsewhere, I read that the woman had a full set of acrylic nails, which can run upwards of $40 depending on where you live.

75 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:11pm

Someone once said of Williie"s timing, "He starts out yesterday and arrive tomorrow "

76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:16pm

re: #17 US Navy Wife

^^^^ is a lady.

You're married. You don't count.
////Just kidding!

77 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:42:45pm
78 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:43:29pm

re: #19 Pvt Bin Jammin

Woot. The Navy is going to name a destroyer after Michael Monsoor, the SEAL who threw himself on the grenade to save others.

He won the CMOH. He deserves it! And his family.

79 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:43:40pm

re: #73 legalpad

I thought I was good with numbers. I don't even remember how many digits my cc's have - 16 maybe? And two finger typing only!

You clearly don't make online purchases as often as I do. ;)

80 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:09pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

Someone else commented on her $30,000 car sitting in the driveway too.....Only in America......

Gee, we are so poor, we cannot afford to get the entire HBO package on our DirectTV! WOE IS ME....please help me Obamessiah, please help me......

81 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:20pm

re: #76 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You're married. You don't count.
////Just kidding!

Yeah, I know. *sniff*

I'm about to be geographically single tough. Does that count?

82 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:23pm

re: #37 legalpad

Dick Morris on Hannity says it's swinging toward McCain, even young voters. Morris has been sort of pessimistic before. He says a new ad by The nationalrepublicantrust.com is making a big difference in test areas of swing states, but that The National Republican Trust needs money to run it in all the swing states.

I just sent them $30. Hopefully they can run the ad a few times.

83 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:38pm

The Revolution is HERE!
FREE MONEY!

/how does it feel to be one of the beautiful people?

84 buckykat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:44pm

Los Angeles area lizards:
People will be out picketing the LA Times again tomorrow (Friday), starting at 10:00 a.m. and continuing well into the afternoon.

85 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:44:50pm
86 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:27pm

As a break from the polls, let's look at some the more unusual and fun indicators of which presidential candidate will win:

(Via Hillbuzz)

(1) The Family Circle Cookie Bakeoff (correctly predicted winner since inception in 1992): Cindy McCain won with her delicious oatmeal butterscotch cookies, versus Michelle Obama’s bitter, clingy arugula socialist shortbreads.

(2) The Nickelodeon Kids’ Poll (wrong last election: kids picked Kerry): Obama won by just 2%, whereas kids voted for Kerry by 17% margin. Obama should have won this won 60-40% at least.

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

(4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

87 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:27pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Thanks.

88 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:36pm

re: #67 Yankee Division Son

They should have paired that with this video

You should e-mail them the link. Maybe they'll splice in part somewhere. I'm sure they are pulling out all the stops.

89 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:38pm

re: #77 steve

DavidCrowder

YEP, my kind of music!

90 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:53pm

Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama.


Must have been the bitter voters that cling to guns that forced him out./

91 Irene NYC  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:55pm

Hey Southland Lizards!

How did the meetup go last week? I never saw any reports.

92 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #67 Yankee Division Son

They should have paired that with this video

There was not time for that. They should put that video on their website though.

93 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:46:02pm

re: #78 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

He won the CMOH. He deserves it! And his family.

They seem like a lovely family. God Bless tham. What a remarkable young hero he was.

94 little blessing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:46:14pm

Bye Lizards.

I won't be back tonight so if anyone is around for fruitcup, say hi to littleoldlady for me.

/Red and x...clean up after yourselves tonight
//Blue and Sharmuta...Keep those eeyores in line!

I LOVE the dead thread!

95 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:46:27pm

re: #44 Irene NYC

Is there a big ACORN presence in LA?

Worse, a big libturd presence.

96 jcm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:47:19pm

I've got to check out.

“When men are full of envy, they disparage everything, whether it be good or bad”
Publius Cornelius Tacitus

I think Tacitus watched Obama's infomercial.

97 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:47:24pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Nice!

98 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:47:41pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Tune out the polls, Turn Out the Vote!

99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:14pm

re: #52 US Navy Wife

It doesn't take long when you're a fast typist, and have memorized your credit card number. I didn't even have to get up.

Using Google toolbar's autofill, it's a snap. It will even fill in credit card numbers.

100 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:33pm

re: #84 buckykat

Great! I probably can't go at ten but will try to make it down there. Hope they ok'd it with the LAPD.

101 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:45pm

re: #86 gmsc
4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

Well that says it all right there: McCAIN BY A LANDSLIDE!

102 sngnsgt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:52pm

re: #37 legalpad

I donated, it's worth damn near anything to me to keep Barry O out of the White house. The United States has survived long enough on Democracy and not socialism.

103 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:56pm

re: #98 Colonel Panik

Tune out the polls, Turn Out the Vote!

VOTE THIS TUESDAY!

104 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:48:58pm

re: #81 US Navy Wife

Yeah, I know. *sniff*

I'm about to be geographically single tough though. Does that count?


PIMF

105 Killgore Trout  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:11pm

One more Willie: Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain

/ Namaste, Y'all

106 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:19pm

re: #90 JohnGaltLives

Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama.


Must have been the bitter voters that cling to guns that forced him out./

Tar, meet feathers.

107 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:27pm

re: #86 gmsc

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

Wrong, i found an entire Joe Biden costume.

108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:55pm

re: #69 outsidephilly

It was a fun game to watch, too!

Which one, they played 5. : )

109 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:49:58pm

re: #99 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Using Google toolbar's autofill, it's a snap. It will even fill in credit card numbers.

That's just scary. What if my laptop takes a walk? I have a teenager in the house!

110 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:05pm

re: #90 JohnGaltLives

Montana gunsmith Dan Cooper has been ousted as chief executive of the rifle company that bears his name after pressure from gun owners who are angry that he is supporting Democrat Barack Obama.


Must have been the bitter voters that cling to guns that forced him out./

My husband will be devastated that he supports the Zero. Those are his most prized guns.

111 sadhu  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:09pm

Tito the Builder!

112 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:36pm
113 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:42pm

re: #103 gmsc


I donated too. It is the least I can do to stop the One. If I do not do everything I can and the One is crowned I would regret it forever.

114 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:44pm

re: #74 doppelganglander

I didn't, but I did hear Rush talk about the woman who claimed she had to ration milk and snacks for her children. Elsewhere, I read that the woman had a full set of acrylic nails, which can run upwards of $40 depending on where you live.

The "poor" in America, meaning those people like my employees who are working minimum wage jobs, really have no idea what it means to be poor.

They know a little bit about being broke, spending as they do their small paychecks pretty dam quick on expensive hairdos, fancy nails, fast food, flash and bling. They just don't know jack about being poor.

If we really do go into a depression or even just a long recession, they wouldn't have a clue of how to make do.

It worries me.

It could be bad.

115 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:50:52pm

re: #95 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Worse, a big libturd presence.

LOL How right you are. I am, unfortunately, one of those folks who have my McCain stickers inside the house. I am positive my car would be vandalized if I had them on it. Sad.

116 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:16pm

re: #94 little blessing

Night little blessing. If I am up I will. Will do my best until I crash though.

117 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:20pm

re: #101 Wishing

4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

Well that says it all right there: McCAIN BY A LANDSLIDE!

Who can dare doubt the power of the Cabbage Patch Doll?
;)

118 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:23pm

re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Which one, they played 5. : )

. . . , the night is rained, and rained, and rained, and . . . . . , and certainly, the night they won! GOOD STUFF!

119 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:34pm

re: #98 Colonel Panik

Tune out the polls, Turn Out the Vote!

I am doing just that. I will speak to everyone I can to drum up more GOP votes in these last days. Come Tuesday, I'll walk over to vote even if its raining fire. I'm worried a good bit, but am not quitting. A win here is important, and what little I can do, I will do.

120 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:43pm

re: #112 Maximu§

I wish this were a joke...

major U.S. port has purchased a sophisticated high-energy X-ray scanning system from a Chinese manufacturer

That is ironic too, since so many Chinese products are loaded up with lead, the scanners will not see through them anyway

121 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:51:45pm

re: #89 outsidephilly

My kids turned me on tho him. Like just about everything hedoes.

BTW in one of his concerts he uses a guitar hero guitar that has been tweeked to play several cords.

122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:52:27pm

re: #81 US Navy Wife

Yeah, I know. *sniff*

I'm about to be geographically single tough. Does that count?

Single and tough, huh? : )))

123 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:52:45pm

re: #115 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL How right you are. I am, unfortunately, one of those folks who have my McCain stickers inside the house. I am positive my car would be vandalized if I had them on it. Sad.

I proudly affixed my McCain sticker to my car. Yes, the car has been keyed. I also go to Texas A & M - where I'm lucky to return from class to find tires! The car is a 1993 though, there's not much that can be done to it that hasn't already happened.

124 jaunte  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:52:58pm

re: #112 Maximu§

I wish they had reported the costs of the other bids.

125 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:53:31pm

re: #121 steve

My kids turned me on tho him. Like just about everything hedoes.

BTW in one of his concerts he uses a guitar hero guitar that has been tweeked to play several cords.

I haven't been to any of his concerts, yet. Didn't he do one of the nights at the Harvest Crusade, recently?

126 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:53:44pm

re: #122 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Single and tough, huh? : )))

Hey, I corrected it @ 104

127 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:54:19pm

re: #117 gmsc

Who can dare doubt the power of the Cabbage Patch Doll?
;)

It is ebay shoppers that i trust to kick the zero into last year. They wont tolerate his effeminate self. He is a pansy elitist who wouldn't know which end of a hammer to use. Nope the Zero hasnt a chance.

128 So?  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:54:22pm

A movie by So?

129 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:54:50pm

re: #112 Maximu§

I wish this were a joke...

major U.S. port has purchased a sophisticated high-energy X-ray scanning system from a Chinese manufacturer

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

130 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:07pm

re: #125 outsidephilly

I haven't been to any of his concerts, yet. Didn't he do one of the nights at the Harvest Crusade, recently?

do not know about that but here is his list of tours
davidcrowderschedule

131 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:28pm

re: #109 US Navy Wife

That's just scary. What if my laptop takes a walk? I have a teenager in the house!

Most laptops don't have legs. That being said, if it's a credit card, the most they can get from you is $50. Debit card, you're on your own.

132 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:28pm

re: #130 steve

do not know about that but here is his list of tours
davidcrowderschedule

thanks

133 buckykat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:55:28pm

re: #100 Pvt Bin Jammin

I picketed for a while today. Everyone was well behaved, and the LAPD didn't interfere. It was organized by a puma.

134 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:15pm

OK, Phillies fans - congrats! Your 28-year baseball championship drought and 25-year sports championship drought is officially over!

However, 28 years without a World Series title doesn't even put the Phillies among the top 10 MLB teams with a World Series title drought.

In 2 minutes or less, can you name the MLB teams with the longest World Series title droughts?

135 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:17pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

Take heart, Grasshopper. It's a Rovian plot, after all. I quote the master:

There has been an explosion of polls this presidential election. Through yesterday, there have been 728 national polls with head-to-head matchups of the candidates, 215 in October alone. In 2004, there were just 239 matchup polls, with 67 of those in October. At this rate, there may be almost as many national polls in October of 2008 as there were during the entire year in 2004.

Some polls are sponsored by reputable news organizations, others by publicity-eager universities or polling firms on the make. None have the scientific precision we imagine.

For example, academics gathered by the American Political Science Association at the Marriott Wardman Park Hotel in Washington on Aug. 31, 2000, to make forecasts declared that Al Gore would be the winner. Their models told them so. Mr. Gore would receive between 53% and 60% of the two-party vote; Gov. George W. Bush would get between just 40% and 47%. Impersonal demographic and economic forces had settled the contest, they said. They were wrong.

Right now, all the polls show Barack Obama ahead of John McCain, but the margins vary widely (in part because some polls use an "expanded" definition of a likely voter, while others use a "traditional" polling model, which assumes turnout will mirror historical trends but with a higher turnout among African-Americans and young voters).

Go read the whole thing.

136 Racer X  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:24pm

1 More B4 11 04

Spread the Poverty!

137 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:31pm

re: #88 legalpad

You should e-mail them the link. Maybe they'll splice in part somewhere. I'm sure they are pulling out all the stops.

Done.

138 mattm  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:37pm

It seems a war has broken out between Sheen and Pelosi:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

139 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:56:59pm

re: #132 outsidephilly

thanks


wish he would do more in the pacific nw other then creation fest in george wa.

140 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:26pm

re: #128 So?

A movie by So?

Great! "I'm going to tell Rashid Khalidi on you!"

141 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:28pm

Good night lizards. Take care of one and other.

142 doppelganglander  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:44pm

re: #80 Desert Dog

Someone else commented on her $30,000 car sitting in the driveway too.....Only in America......

Gee, we are so poor, we cannot afford to get the entire HBO package on our DirectTV! WOE IS ME....please help me Obamessiah, please help me......

And then there's this woman, who's having the vapors she's so excited that she doesn't have to work for gas money or health care anymore. (It's towards the end of the clip.)

143 JeremyR  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:47pm

re: #86 gmsc

As a break from the polls, let's look at some the more unusual and fun indicators of which presidential candidate will win:

(Via Hillbuzz)

(1) The Family Circle Cookie Bakeoff (correctly predicted winner since inception in 1992): Cindy McCain won with her delicious oatmeal butterscotch cookies, versus Michelle Obama’s bitter, clingy arugula socialist shortbreads.

(2) The Nickelodeon Kids’ Poll (wrong last election: kids picked Kerry): Obama won by just 2%, whereas kids voted for Kerry by 17% margin. Obama should have won this won 60-40% at least.

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

(4) Cabbage Patch Candidate Doll Sales (never done before, prices as of this writing):

$3,100.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Sarah Palin
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate John McCain
McCain/Palin total bids: $4,125


$610.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Vice President Candidate Joe Biden
$1,025.00 Cabbage Patch Kids Presidential Candidate Barack Obama
0bama/Biden total bids: $1,635

The biden mask is easy to make at home, just a few hair plugs and some gray paint.

144 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:48pm

re: #131 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Most laptops don't have legs. That being said, if it's a credit card, the most they can get from you is $50. Debit card, you're on your own.

"They" would be my son. It isn't like I'm going to turn him in... although, I have to admit that when Iowa (?) changed their kid drop-off law to not include teenagers I was saddened.

I don't trust autofill because I don't fully trust my son. Sad, but true.

145 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:57:57pm

re: #126 US Navy Wife

Hey, I corrected it @ 104

I know. : )

146 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:58:15pm

re: #138 mattm

It seems a war has broken out between Sheen and Pelosi:

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Martin or Charlie?

147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:58:43pm

re: #134 gmsc

OK, Phillies fans - congrats! Your 28-year baseball championship drought and 25-year sports championship drought is officially over!

However, 28 years without a World Series title doesn't even put the Phillies among the top 10 MLB teams with a World Series title drought.

In 2 minutes or less, can you name the MLB teams with the longest World Series title droughts?

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

148 Redline  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:58:43pm

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

149 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:03pm

re: #123 US Navy Wife

I proudly affixed my McCain sticker to my car. Yes, the car has been keyed. I also go to Texas A & M - where I'm lucky to return from class to find tires! The car is a 1993 though, there's not much that can be done to it that hasn't already happened.

Bless your heart. My car is older too, 1998, but it's a convertible, in good shape, and I have to park on the street. I just don't want to chance it. I talk it up about McCain/Palin whenever/wherever I can, though, so feel like I'm doing something.

150 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:13pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

Ditto.

151 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:15pm

re: #84 buckykat

Los Angeles area lizards:
People will be out picketing the LA Times again tomorrow (Friday), starting at 10:00 a.m. and continuing well into the afternoon.

I'm curious about one aspect of the LA Times issue. They now say that they can't release the tape without putting the source in danger. Danger from whom? From Obama's minions, or from the peaceful pro-Palestinians who are on the tape?

152 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:16pm

re: #139 steve

wish he would do more in the pacific nw other then creation fest in george wa.


maybe if you mention that to him, he'll re-arrange his schedule . . . . , he's that kind of guy. Hey, get your church to host his band!

153 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 9:59:31pm

re: #120 Desert Dog

That is ironic too, since so many Chinese products are loaded up with lead, the scanners will not see through them anyway

A European and an American company lost that bid, if we're gonna lose that bid, its better that it goes to a European firm than a Chinese firm. Someone needs to lose their job for this, of course the Chinese came in with the low bid and I would bet my next check the owners of the Chinese company who won the bid are also connected to the PRC military.

154 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:31pm

re: #148 Redline

VERY scary.

I need to find out which pharmaceutical companies make anti-anxiety drugs and invest.

155 boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:34pm

re: #146 gmsc

Martin or Charlie?

Afro. :D

156 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:40pm

Charles, I have a suggestion on the 'report' button.

I thought you had removed the report link. You previously had a text link next to 'reply' and 'quote'. I used it often.

The exclamation button as a report button is unfamiliar to me and to many others. I have never used it.

My suggestion would be to add a 'title' or an 'alt' to the exclamation point image saying 'report abuses', or just revert back to the text link ( I suggest the text link since this feature seems to be critical to you).

157 Wishing  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:00:59pm

I will say it again:

The Zero has a complete pass by the MSM... with his arab dollars he has run circles around the Republican campaign.
That he is NOT ahead by 30 pts tells me that McCain is going to be the CLEAR winner on Nov 5.
Everyone will be shocked, and mayhem will break out in the cities.
Demands for free Plasma TV's will reach a crescendo.

158 jaunte  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:00pm

News from Iraq
I just received this image in an email from my daughter, who is currently stationed at Ft. Lewis, WA. She wanted to let me know what her fiancee was up to in Iraq. Looks as if things have calmed down a bit.
"Cowboy Up":
[Link: i452.photobucket.com...]

159 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:10pm

I encourage you all to read the following, which I also linked upstairs:

What you were never intended to know in this election

By a Hillary turned Obama staffer who is so disillusioned she wrote this piece and seems not to be voting for anyone.

She is right out front about the psy ops of the campaign, among other things.

Thanks to Erisl for the link.

160 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:22pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

The curse of the Goat lives on....

161 Macker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:01:48pm

re: #8 Moe Katz

Happiness is a warm wife.

What is wife?

162 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:02:15pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You poor soul. You know there's groups for that don't you. ;)

163 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:02:31pm

re: #133 buckykat

I picketed for a while today. Everyone was well behaved, and the LAPD didn't interfere. It was organized by a puma.

Thanks. I'll try to go for awhile.

Got to love those PUMAs.

164 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:02:50pm

re: #162 BlueCanuck

You poor soul. You know there's groups for that don't you. ;)

SMACK!

165 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:03:37pm

re: #34 IslandLibertarian
No I didn't catch that, but it's genuinely funny because althought the LA Times won't release the videotape, we have a confirmed invited guest list and on that list was
#3 Bernadine Dohrn and William Ayers
#4 Barack Obama
#5 Mayor Richard Daley.

166 bosforus  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:03:38pm

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

167 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:03:56pm

re: #144 US Navy Wife

never trust a teenager. --even the best teenager can trust bad friends.

168 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:13pm

re: #107 Desert Dog

(3) Halloween mask sales (correct as long as we can remember): McCain’s winning, with just a week to go before Halloween. If you combine the McCain/Palin sales, they’re trouncing Obama/Biden – but they don’t even bother to make a Joe Biden mask.

Wrong, i found an entire Joe Biden costume.

He'd kill for that hair!

169 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:14pm

re: #148 Redline

Large grain of salt here. I think that an underground nuke test has different seismographic traces than an earthquake. If it was a nuke test A LOT of people would be jumping up and down and screaming.

170 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:25pm

re: #167 ggt

Excellent advice, ggt. Thank you.

171 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:43pm

re: #153 Maximu§

Why are we even letting them bid on stuff like that? It's like the outsourcing of the "tamper proof" passports to a company in Bangkok....wtf are we thinking?

172 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:52pm

re: #153 Maximu§

COSCO ring a bell. They are already running Long Beach.

173 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:04:58pm

re: #135 Steffan

Go read the whole thing.

Already did. I also hung out at some dem forums and (in between skipping over the bullshit) read extensively on what they're PO'd about, how they feel about the Republican party, what their friends and relatives are saying & doing, etc.

There is a case to be made for "change" if - IF - you're willing to believe that O really is some kind of Magic Moderate who's "cool" and has the chops to be a great President. All you have to do is convince yourself that everything about Obie's background is a lie, smear, or distortion. If you're really sick to death of the pigs at the trough, think our global policies are fucked, and believe Obama's marketing strategy, then you'll turn out for Zero.

And a lot of people apparently believe it.

I'm not sure what will happen. I don't think any result would surprise me, really, but on the flip side of that coin, I'm not going to "hope" for anything, other than that the natives on the bad side of the highway don't go wild and try to break any of my stuff next Wednesday. And I've got enough paint and plywood for a warning sign, and the hardware to back it up, if it comes to that.

I don't think anybody knows for sure what's really going to happen. It all depends on turnout: Which way uncommiteds break, and how many of each candidate's fan clubs actually show up at the polls.

174 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:03pm

re: #109 US Navy Wife

That's just scary. What if my laptop takes a walk? I have a teenager in the house!

Yeah - if you've memorized it, you can't beat that. But beware of keyloggers in unsecured wireless networks.

175 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:20pm

re: #151 stuiec

A islamamuslim? giving-in to the bullies again, I see.

/Nice to have a fine journalistic institution with balls. Taking lessons from Eason Jordan?

176 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:21pm
177 outsidephilly  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:21pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I'm A Cubs fan. ENOUGH!

The Cubs are a GREAT team to watch, too! Can't wait to watch them next year . . . , 'night all!

178 boogereatinmoron  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:05:44pm

I am looking for thoughts and comments on the Alaska problem. There is a movement in the state to get people to vote for Ted Stevens with the understanding that he will step down or be removed opening the door for Sarah Palin to take his seat. As much as I fear an Obama presidency and though I realize the magnitude of a super majority for the dems in the senate I cannot bring myself to vote for a convicted felon. Does anyone else have similar situations in other states?

179 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:06:40pm

re: #178 boogereatinmoron

Why would our next Vice President want a Senate seat?
/

180 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:06:51pm

re: #21 Pawn of the Oppressor

We're all gonna get a free cone of Shit Ice Cream next Tuesday, if the polls are accurate.

it's too early in the thread for an Eeyore..... you're gonna screw up our buzz.

181 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:06:57pm

re: #164 Dark_Falcon

heh heh heh.

/glad I remembered my helmet today.

182 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:07:25pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

If this is true it needs to be trumpeted from the rooftops. Especially to undecided Jewish voters!

183 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:07:26pm

re: #178 boogereatinmoron

I am looking for thoughts and comments on the Alaska problem. There is a movement in the state to get people to vote for Ted Stevens with the understanding that he will step down or be removed opening the door for Sarah Palin to take his seat. As much as I fear an Obama presidency and though I realize the magnitude of a super majority for the dems in the senate I cannot bring myself to vote for a convicted felon. Does anyone else have similar situations in other states?

No. No other GOP senator has Senator Bridge to Nowhere's problem.

184 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:07:54pm

re: #180 redc1c4

it's too early in the thread for an Eeyore..... you're gonna screw up our buzz.

That's what liquor is for, guy!

/Drunk Thursday, the early start to the weekend

185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:08:17pm

re: #160 Maximu§

The curse of the Goat lives on....

Nah, any team can have a bad century...

186 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:08:31pm

re: #159 neocon hippie

THANK YOU so much for posting that! What a satisfying read that is.
It even has a couple of surprises.

187 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:08:45pm

re: #170 US Navy Wife

The other advice I like is:

When your teenager is rude, or whacky towards you, don't take it personally. Just treat them as you would your best friend when extremely drunk.

188 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:02pm

re: #180 redc1c4

it's too early in the thread for an Eeyore..... you're gonna screw up our buzz.

Let's just get the Eeyore some thistle. Eeyores love thistle.

189 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:07pm

re: #185 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

So are they working on their second now?

/easy there, just pulling legs. don't care either way.

190 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:11pm

re: #162 BlueCanuck

You poor soul. You know there's groups for that don't you. ;)

Thank the lord for bars!

191 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:24pm

re: #187 ggt

As long as he doesn't puke on me, I'm willing to give that a try.

192 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:36pm
re: #159 neocon hippie

THANK YOU so much for posting that! What a satisfying read that is.
It even has a couple of surprises.

I don't believe a word of this letter. This is not written by some 20 year old.

193 neocon hippie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:09:54pm

re: #186 rawmuse

You're welcome. That is one of the most bracing reads of this campaign that's come my way in a long time.

Didn't make it to Reno yet. Got hung up and by the time I got going the traffic was so bad getting out that I bailed. Will go midday tomorrow before the traffic hits.

194 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:10:36pm

Tonight's muscial request from the Great Messiah. Now playing over state controlled radio...

How'd I know this was one of his favorites?

195 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:10:44pm

re: #191 US Navy Wife

Yeah, well, we've lived thru puke. Although, it was called "spit-up".

196 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:11:35pm

Since it's October 31st over half of the continental US now, how about a few Halloween ditties to get us in the mood?

This is Halloween (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

Time Warp (plus the Drew Carey "Time Warp vs. Groove Thing" version and the Star Trek version)

Thriller (Yes, you can have "Indian Thriller", too!)

197 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:11:38pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

Actually, I am expecting a (large) Iranian work accident given the educational focus of those Islamic is about 100% on the Quran memorization and nothing else.

198 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:12:05pm

re: #188 Dark_Falcon

Let's just get the Eeyore some thistle. Eeyores love thistle.

I get my thistle on the internet. It's free.

I already voted, and legally I can't campaign for McCain/Palin because I pulled the lever for Hillary in the Dem primary. I don't even have a fence-sitter I can try to convince. Nothin' to do but sit and watch and clean my rifle like Private Pyle.

199 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:12:31pm

re: #194 oh_dude

Tonight's muscial request from the Great Messiah. Now playing over state controlled radio...

How'd I know this was one of his favorites?

Naw, naw, naw.
This is Obama's favorite song.

200 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:12:42pm

re: #194 oh_dude

Tonight's muscial request from the Great Messiah. Now playing over state controlled radio...

How'd I know this was one of his favorites?

I love this one too. Depeche Mode had some great ones.

201 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:13:02pm

re: #195 ggt

Yeah, well, we've lived thru puke. Although, it was called "spit-up".

HA!

I tell ya, I'm not looking forward to two years of single parenting. I don't know how they do it! I'm too accustomed to having a good-cop / bad-cop situation where one parent does the yelling and the other helps him to see how he can get back in good graces. (We change up the roles just to keep him guessing.) Doing that with no other adult in the house makes me feel a tad schizophrenic. I end up moderating my anger and he gets away with more than he should. *sigh* Parenting is not for wimps!

202 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:13:36pm

re: #166 bosforus

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

I will be praying ofor him and his family

203 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:01pm

re: #144 US Navy Wife

I don't trust autofill because I don't fully trust my son. Sad, but true.

Maybe not so sad. How old is he? (I have 5 sons.)

204 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:20pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

I get my thistle on the internet. It's free.

I already voted, and legally I can't campaign for McCain/Palin because I pulled the lever for Hillary in the Dem primary. I don't even have a fence-sitter I can try to convince. Nothin' to do but sit and watch and clean my rifle like Private Pyle.

Huh?

205 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:38pm
You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

206 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:51pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

Bull F'ing-shit...Seismographs can tell the difference because they calculate the vibrations by the speed and direction at which they travel.

207 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:14:54pm

re: #166 bosforus

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

That's a shame. I wish them good luck.

208 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:02pm

re: #203 legalpad

Maybe not so sad. How old is he? (I have 5 sons.)

16. 16 going on 4 or 40, depending on the day. (or the hour)

209 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:11pm

re: #158 jaunte

I got an error message on that photo.

210 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:16pm

re: #196 gmsc

Have you ever rode on the Haunted Mansion when they do the Nightmare Before Xmas overlay for Halloween? It's way cool.

211 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:15:23pm

re: #193 neocon hippie

Godspeed and thanks in advance. I have a busy work weekend this weekend, so I have chosen to make the $ and send donations.

After the election, we should do another meet up.

212 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:11pm

re: #198 Pawn of the Oppressor

Buck up, it isn't over yet. Besides why should you trust the polls? Didn't you read iowahawks piece on polling statistic numbers? Humourous yes, but very true and factual. I have never trusted polls, even when they are going my way. Only one poll you should trust and we will know how it turns out on Nov 4th/5th.

213 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:17pm

re: #210 oh_dude

Have you ever rode on the Haunted Mansion when they do the Nightmare Before Xmas overlay for Halloween? It's way cool.

I have to do that someday - it sounds great! (no, I haven't)

214 FortunateSon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:22pm

re: #148 Redline

...and on that note, Happy Halloween to all of you Lizards in the eastern time zones!

Classes are keeping me in this year, but next year? The best Indiana Jones costume you'll ever see...

215 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:33pm

re: #199 faraway

Naw, naw, naw.
This is Obama's favorite song.

Nope, Obama doesn't fit that song at all. He really does want to change the world.

216 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:41pm

eere: #94 little blessing


//Blue and Sharmuta...Keep those eeyores in line!

Move 'em on, head 'em up --

217 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:16:54pm

re: #199 faraway

Naw, naw, naw.
This is Obama's favorite song.

Nope, this is Obama's real theme song

218 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:17:49pm

re: #206 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Ah, thanks for that tidbit. I knew that there were differences between nature and manmade events.

219 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:17:51pm

re: #148 Redline

I just google Earth'd the coordinates mentioned in the Israel Insider article. 26.70°N, 55.02°E A dry lake bed out in the middle of nowhere. Just like where we used to do our underground tests in Nevada.

220 bosforus  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:37pm

re: #202 steve

re: #207 Moe Katz

Much appreciated. Though I'm sure Obama taxing his bosses will free up some money to rehire him. Wait a second...

221 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:45pm

re: #217 Desert Dog

Nope, this is Obama's real theme song

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

222 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:46pm

re: #213 gmsc


My wife have been annual passholders for Disneyland for like 10 years and I think we've gone every single year.

It's like an annual pilgrimage for all the Goth-type high school kids. Very cool. Definitely put it on your list.

223 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:47pm
224 wolfie  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:18:56pm

re: #178 boogereatinmoron

I would hold my nose and vote for Ted. Gag.
That's how important I think keeping the Democrats from getting 60 seats is.

225 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:19:18pm

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

Nope, Obama doesn't fit that song at all. He really does want to change the world.

If he's so into '60s ways of changing the world, may I suggest a more effective use of all that money he's collected?

226 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:19:52pm
227 Desert Dog  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:08pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're right.....that IS his theme song

228 oh_dude  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:24pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

HA HA! I started the thread, but you definitely ended it!

BARRY=BARNEY

229 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:38pm

Outsidephilly, try building429 they are worth a listen to.

[Link: www.building429.com...]

230 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:44pm

re: #204 US Navy Wife

Huh?

I crossed the aisle, so to speak, and voted for Hillary in the Texas primary. Texas law bars me from working/volunteering for a non-Democrat campaign for one year.

(My vote for Hillary wasn't a chaos-generating move either. McCain had been decided on by the Republicans at that point, so I thought of it as shaping the contest: there are three, and there must be two, so which of the three do I want to get rid of? Easy answer, "Barry the Liar". Hillary is a known quantity who's narcissism could be worked with.)

231 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:20:57pm

re: #166 bosforus

Awwww crap, just got an email from my bro saying he's getting laid off over the weekend (he's got a wife and three kids fer cryin' out loud!). Stupid economy.

So sorry to hear that. I wish him good luck landing back on his feet again.

232 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:11pm

re: #218 BlueCanuck

Ah, thanks for that tidbit. I knew that there were differences between nature and manmade events.

Back in the 50's and 60's it was difficult to differentiate. But today the seismographs use satellites (GPS) to plot the direction of the shockwaves, so it's highly unlikely it was a nuke.

233 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:16pm

re: #172 Pvt Bin Jammin

COSCO ring a bell. They are already running Long Beach.

I wonder why no Senators are speaking out on this? American jobs are being lost, our security is being compromised....Hello!

Next thing we'll see is our submarines, F-22's and destroyers being made in China to save a few bucks and after the Chinese reverse-engineer them, our troops will be facing our own high-tech weapons.

234 Piglet-U93  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:27pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

Decepticon in a Barney suit

235 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:49pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

"I hate O, I hate B,
I hate Obama can't you see.
With a roar and shout, voters threw him out the door,
Him and his lefty dinosaurs."

I hope to be singing that on November 5th.

236 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:52pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

This is what I think Obama's theme song is.

237 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:21:56pm

re: #201 US Navy Wife

Nope --we use an impartial third party (therapist). Both hubby and I impartial adults --friends of the family, but the kid doesn't. So we hired one.

Found it really helps.

238 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:22:20pm

re: #230 Pawn of the Oppressor

No one knows how I vote. How do they know how you vote?

239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:22:29pm

re: #219 Colonel Panik

I just google Earth'd the coordinates mentioned in the Israel Insider article. 26.70°N, 55.02°E A dry lake bed out in the middle of nowhere. Just like where we used to do our underground tests in Nevada.

Look for known faults in that area. A dollar to a donut there's one there.

240 hazzyday  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:22:48pm

I haven't voted yet. I like the suspense. I think i will wait til Tuesday.

241 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:23:02pm

re: #148 Redline

This is scary if it proves to be true:

Iranian Nuke Scientist: Weekend Quake was a Nuclear Test
(IsraelNN.com) A weekend 5.0 Richter earthquake in Iran was actually a nuclear bomb test, says an Iranian nuclear scientist claiming to be working on the project.

The report is an Israel Insider exclusive.

This past Saturday night, southern Iran experienced what was reported as a significant earthquake - a seismic event measuring 5.0 on the Richter scale. Its epicenter was just north of the strategic Straits of Hormuz, which separates Iran from Abu Dhabi and Oman and which is the gateway to the Persian Gulf.

The report quotes an Iranian nuclear scientist who claims to be working in uranium enrichment for the project, and who said that the "quake" was acutally an undergound nuclear bomb test.
...article continued...

nukes have a completely different wave pattern, and we've had years to learn which is which.

not saying they didn't, just saying they couldn't fool the experts.

242 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:23:41pm

re: #236 Moe Katz

This is what I think Obama's theme song is.

Not bad, Moe.

243 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:23:43pm

re: #234 Piglet-U93

Decepticon in a Barney suit

And he seeks to destroy America's Allspark Constitution.

244 ggt  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:01pm

Night Lizards, it's time for me to go to bed.

weet dreams!

245 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:02pm

Interesting, we've got two submissions of the Barney theme and two of the Coca-Cola anthem.

246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:32pm

re: #233 Maximu§

I wonder why no Senators are speaking out on this? American jobs are being lost, our security is being compromised....Hello!

Next thing we'll see is our submarines, F-22's and destroyers being made in China to save a few bucks and after the Chinese reverse-engineer them, our troops will be facing our own high-tech weapons.

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

247 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:40pm

re: #238 US Navy Wife

No one knows how I vote. How do they know how you vote?

I don't break laws. Not even to sink Obama.

248 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:24:54pm

re: #245 Moe Katz

Interesting, we've got two submissions of the Barney theme and two of the Coca-Cola anthem.

Well, he talks like Barney and he used coke. Just saying...

249 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:25:42pm

re: #241 redc1c4

nukes have a completely different wave pattern, and we've had years to learn which is which.

not saying they didn't, just saying they couldn't fool the experts.

Thanks for agreeing!

250 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:25:50pm

Night ggt, sleep well and warm.

251 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:25:58pm

re: #245 Moe Katz

I missed the earlier Barney. My apologies to whomever I stomped on.

252 itellu3times  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:05pm

re: #233 Maximu§

Next thing we'll see is our submarines, F-22's and destroyers being made in China to save a few bucks and after the Chinese reverse-engineer them, our troops will be facing our own high-tech weapons.

India.

253 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:09pm

I'm sorry, but this is the real theme song

254 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:10pm

re: #246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I'm still ill'n over that crap.

255 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:20pm

re: #208 US Navy Wife

ggt has some good thoughts. The drunk friend thing, the bad friends - be steady, not too intense - in time even the worst can sober up. I have one that I went through some stuff with age 15 to 19 - I stuck with him (sent some of his former, older, associates to prison), and he is good as gold, and now age 27 and a great Father himself. I could rave on and on about him.

256 abolitionist  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:26:50pm

Tech question for anyone: Lately, I seem to have lost the ability to bring up the info page of a user by clicking his/her/my avatar or football. For a while, the info page would only come up for those avatars/footballs in the sidelinks, but not in these comments. Now, no info page appears in either context. LGF's front page appears instead.

I've tried turning off NoScript, antivirus, firewalls, disabling add-ons, etc but I can't regain the old functionality. Can I safely try dumping all my LGF cookies? Is that function just gone or temporarily disabled?

What happens for YOU when you right click someone's football?

My desktop has 98se/Firefox 2.0.0.17 and laptop has Vista Home Premiun/Firefox 3.0.3. Similar behaviours.

257 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:27:10pm

re: #253 faraway

I'm sorry, but this is the real theme song

YOU WIN!

258 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:27:26pm

USGS Information

Magnitude 5.0 - SOUTHERN IRAN
2008 October 25 20:17:20 UTC
26.533°N, 54.985°E

If this was an actual underground nuclear test we would have heard about it from official channels.

/Another conspiracy theory.

259 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:27:53pm
260 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:03pm

re: #196 gmsc

Thanks, gmsc... today marks MY birthdate... always tied up with leaf-smoke, Halloween, costumes, parties... but not now that I'm past 60... :D

261 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:19pm

re: #253 faraway

I'm sorry, but this is the real theme song

Good choice. That's one of my father's favorite songs.

262 steve  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:35pm

Well, I guess that I might as well get off to sleep and cuddle with the Mrs. Steve.

Good night to all you wonderful Lizards.

263 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:44pm

re: #217 Desert Dog

Nope, this is Obama's real theme song

I think this one is more fitting.

264 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:28:54pm

re: #251 US Navy Wife

I missed the earlier Barney. My apologies to whomever I stomped on.

Yours was the first. Don't be so apologetic!

265 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:09pm

re: #260 Karridine

Thanks, gmsc... today marks MY birthdate... always tied up with leaf-smoke, Halloween, costumes, parties... but not now that I'm past 60... :D

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

266 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:29pm

re: #259 faraway

Sadly, this might be my theme song on Nov 5th

Singing the blues? We'll get you some blue thistle, Eeyore.

267 Promethea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:30pm

re: #151 stuiec

I'm curious about one aspect of the LA Times issue. They now say that they can't release the tape without putting the source in danger. Danger from whom? From Obama's minions, or from the peaceful pro-Palestinians who are on the tape?

That was my question too.....Danger from whom? They should tell us who's threatening them. That certainly would be newsworthy.

268 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:38pm

re: #254 Maximu§

I'm still ill'n over that crap.

Bill Gertz wrote a great book about it called "Betrayal: How the Clinton Administration Undermined American Security ". I'm sure your local library has it.

269 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:29:48pm

re: #12 rawmuse

WE ARE ALL INDIVIDUALS!

-Life of Brian

Always look on the bright side of life...

270 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:08pm

re: #255 legalpad

ggt has some good thoughts. The drunk friend thing, the bad friends - be steady, not too intense - in time even the worst can sober up. I have one that I went through some stuff with age 15 to 19 - I stuck with him (sent some of his former, older, associates to prison), and he is good as gold, and now age 27 and a great Father himself. I could rave on and on about him.

Thank you, legalpad. I have hope most days. I think the stress of the elections, coupled with my husband's imminent move, has made me more sensitive. I'll try to be less intense.

271 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:12pm
272 rawmuse  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:15pm

If you need to get away from politics, and have a big screen tv, and just want to take in some stunning photography, air, underwater, and land, stills and movies, with a great orchestra score this is my recommendation.

Rawmuse sez check it out. It is on Netflix as well.

273 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:33pm

Obama's next? You Love Us

274 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:30:50pm

re: #259 faraway

Dinged you down for that one. FOR SHAME!

275 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:31:48pm

Here in Vegas, we have a woman who is 104 years old. She's voted in every election since she was old enough to vote in the 1928 Hoover vs. Coolidge election. She says that her father gave her 2 rules when it came to voting:

1) Always vote.

2) Never tell who you voted for.

She says to this day, she's followed both rules.

276 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:31:56pm

re: #263 Syrah

I think this one is more fitting.

That was awesome.

277 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:06pm

re: #233 Maximu§

I don't understand why they're not speaking out either. I can understand why our own lame senators aren't but you'd think some of the others would be making a huge stink about it. COSCO runs the canal, too.

I remember years ago when we were thinking about giving back the canal my hubby and I wrote to Sen. Alan Cranston. He wrote us some kind of pitiful, condescending letter....made me want to puke.

278 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:09pm

re: #264 Moe Katz

Yours was the first. Don't be so apologetic!

Well then, dammit... who stomped on me?

/

279 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:22pm

re: #271 faraway

Obama's 2nd inaugural song

Why would 0bama have an inaugural song?

280 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:30pm

re: #274 US Navy Wife

Dinged you down for that one. FOR SHAME!

I dinged him down also. And I didn't even click on the link. Just the post was enough. WE WILL WIN!

281 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:38pm

Eeyores should go soak their heads this evening.

Go McCain/Palin!

282 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:32:53pm

re: #260 Karridine

Happy Birthday Karridine. May you have many more and may they all be memorable and joyous.

283 poopeedoo  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:14pm

re: #281 Adina in Judea

Up-dinged you for that one!

284 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:26pm

re: #260 Karridine

Thanks, gmsc... today marks MY birthdate... always tied up with leaf-smoke, Halloween, costumes, parties... but not now that I'm past 60... :D

You're welcome! and Happy Birthday!

285 Moe Katz  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:29pm

re: #278 US Navy Wife

Well then, dammit... who stomped on me?

/

LOL! That's much better :)

286 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:33:32pm

A good place to start

Leftover from the last thread, but a good place to start.

I'm particularily fond of James Madison in No. 10. Seems to have relevance and gives me peace.

The latent causes of faction are thus sown in the nature of man; and we see them everywhere brought into different degrees of activity, according to the different circumstances of civil society. A zeal for different opinions concerning religion, concerning government, and many other points, as well of speculation as of practice; an attachment to different leaders ambitiously contending for pre-eminence and power; or to persons of other descriptions whose fortunes have been interesting to the human passions, have, in turn, divided mankind into parties, inflamed them with mutual animosity, and rendered them much more disposed to vex and oppress each other than to co-operate for their common good. So strong is this propensity of mankind to fall into mutual animosities, that where no substantial occasion presents itself, the most frivolous and fanciful distinctions have been sufficient to kindle their unfriendly passions and excite their most violent conflicts. But the most common and durable source of factions has been the various and unequal distribution of property. Those who hold and those who are without property have ever formed distinct interests in society. Those who are creditors, and those who are debtors, fall under a like discrimination. A landed interest, a manufacturing interest, a mercantile interest, a moneyed interest, with many lesser interests, grow up of necessity in civilized nations, and divide them into different classes, actuated by different sentiments and views. The regulation of these various and interfering interests forms the principal task of modern legislation, and involves the spirit of party and faction in the necessary and ordinary operations of the government.
287 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:05pm

Another one for the O --

but I definitely vote for #263

288 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:08pm

re: #19 Pvt Bin Jammin

Woot. The Navy is going to name a destroyer after Michael Monsoor, the SEAL who threw himself on the grenade to save others.


Yeah, but there are people in California who objected to a statue being displayed of him with a rifle.

289 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:08pm
290 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:18pm

re: #280 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

WE WILL WIN!

Yes, we will!

291 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:42pm

re: #230 Pawn of the Oppressor

I crossed the aisle, so to speak, and voted for Hillary in the Texas primary. Texas law bars me from working/volunteering for a non-Democrat campaign for one year.

Working/volunteering in an official capacity I presume. And how does it affect your contributions, voting, etc.?

292 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:34:57pm

re: #246 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I meant to mention that too. What a POS.

293 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:35:18pm

re: #263 Syrah

I think this one is more fitting.

How about this one. Given that he acts like Juan Peron sometimes, its fitting.

294 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:35:45pm

A dedication to all the followers of the Zero™ and his cult of personality.

295 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:35:57pm

Enough 0bama songs!

How about something to inspire the McCain voters to join together for our common cause?

296 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:36:38pm

Bed time, gotta get ready for the party tomarrow night at my house...

297 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:36:40pm

re: #292 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I meant to mention that too. What a POS.

See my #268 if you missed it.

298 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:36:45pm

re: #294 BlueCanuck

A dedication to all the followers of the Zero™ and his cult of personality.

Oooops PIMF. 0~0

299 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:37:32pm
300 Macker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:37:55pm

re: #196 gmsc

Since it's October 31st over half of the continental US now, how about a few Halloween ditties to get us in the mood?

This is Halloween (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

Time Warp (plus the Drew Carey "Time Warp vs. Groove Thing" version and the Star Trek version)

Thriller (Yes, you can have "Indian Thriller", too!)

And don't forget Killer Klowns from Outer Space!

301 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:03pm

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

302 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:06pm

re: #291 legalpad

Working/volunteering in an official capacity I presume. And how does it affect your contributions, voting, etc.?

Not sure about contributions - moot point anyway, I don't have any money. Voting, well, obviously I can vote for whoever I want.

I turned the dial to "Straight Republican" and pressed "Cast Ballot". Voting took me all of five seconds. Yes, the right thing to do was research, pick individual candidates based on their merits, etc. but somebody has to be there to obstruct the Pelosi-Reid (and possibly -Obama) Axis of Pain.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to talk at length with my girl in NYC over the weekend and push her into the McPain camp. It won't matter in New York, really, but it's worth a try.

303 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:09pm

re: #239 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The Israel Insider article suggested that's exactly why they would test in that area, to camouflage it. There is a geographical feature that appears roughly like a fault line would in California about 8 miles away from the coordinates. Turning on "earthquakes" shows a 4.2 and 5.1 just a few miles from that coordinate.

I'd like to see the seismo traces for those and compare them to a known nuke test seismo trace.

Biden did say "The One" would be tested shortly after assuming office.

304 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:23pm

I've got to get to bed. Goodnight all.

305 Macker  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:38:56pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

"I Hate You
You Hate Me
Let's Hang Barney From a Tree!"

306 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:32pm

re: #303 Colonel Panik

The Israel Insider article suggested that's exactly why they would test in that area, to camouflage it. There is a geographical feature that appears roughly like a fault line would in California about 8 miles away from the coordinates. Turning on "earthquakes" shows a 4.2 and 5.1 just a few miles from that coordinate.

I'd like to see the seismo traces for those and compare them to a known nuke test seismo trace.

Biden did say "The One" would be tested shortly after assuming office.

I doubt this is real, but wouldn't that be something? What a hell of an October Surprise, an Iranian nuke! Jeez... Let's hope not... Let's hope Never!

307 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:43pm
308 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:46pm

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

I'm a Believer

309 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:39:48pm

re: #138 mattm I'll lay odds that someone in Shehags' campaign did it to get some attention. Cindy ain't beating Pelosi anyway, but if you look at the end of the article it says:

"SOURCE Cindy Sheehan; Cindy for Congress
Copyright 2008 PR Newswire. All Rights Reserved."

310 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:40:20pm

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

Me, too!

I've been feeling this way very strongly since Thursday morning!

311 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:40:25pm

re: #173 Pawn of the Oppressor

The PUMAs seem to think that The One is going to get a nasty surprise, especially in the NE area. They expect ME and NH to go solidly for McCain.... and they think it's too close to call in IA. Given McCain's opposition to food-grain ethanol, you'd think The One would have an overwhelming advantage there.

Apparently not....

312 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:40:58pm

re: #295 gmsc

Enough 0bama songs!

How about something to inspire the McCain voters to join together for our common cause?

Here's another, gmsc.

313 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:23pm

re: #288 shanec99
" but there are people in California who objected to a statue being displayed of him with a rifle."
OMG I feel embarrassed to be a Californian sometimes but I believe it. I used to be the president of a high school band/orchestra booster club. At one time the marching band had a drill team that used wooden rifles and would you believe it, a group of parents put the pressure on to get it stopped! My own sister-in-law stopped an eighth grade graduating class from having a paint ball party for the same reason and her kid was in the seventh grade. Who in the heck do these people think keeps us free?

314 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:34pm

re: #196 gmsc

Since it's October 31st over half of the continental US now, how about a few Halloween ditties to get us in the mood?

This is Halloween (from Nightmare Before Christmas)

Monster Mash

Time Warp (plus the Drew Carey "Time Warp vs. Groove Thing" version and the Star Trek version)

Thriller (Yes, you can have "Indian Thriller", too!)

How about a little John Kerry moment..."Do the Lurch"

315 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:49pm

GMSC, Maximus and friends... thanks for the kind regards...

Its another workday as we spin around the Sun on our Green Jewel... but in my workday I sprinkle uplifting and eye-opening and gratitude...

/voted absentee for The Olde Guy and The Great Gal! :D

316 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:51pm

re: #177 outsidephilly

Yep.

The Tao of the True Cubs Fan:

There's always next year!

317 Jimmah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:41:59pm
318 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #114 Syrah
Hey hi Syrah - yep, you're correct! They wouldn't have a clue.
BTW, can you tell me what kind of business you run?
Will you be able to survive the higher taxes and health insurance requriements OR FINES if you don't insure your employees under an Obama Presidency?

319 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:42:55pm

re: #296 Maximu§

We had one last Saturday and it wore us out. Get some rest.

320 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:43:16pm

re: #303 Colonel Panik

The Insider didn't get the epicenter right. The epicenter was south of Kong, Iran in the littoral waters of the Strait of Hormuz. The correct location is noted in the USGS report including all information.

As you can see in this map it shows the exact location which would have put the epicenter of this imaginary test underwater.

Again, the epicenter as reported by the "Insider" is incorrect. The summary information from the USGS is here.

321 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:43:35pm

re: #288 shanec99

Yeah, but there are people in California who objected to a statue being displayed of him with a rifle.

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

322 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:44:17pm

re: #259 faraway

Don't let anything convince you that you have to stop fighting, in whatever capacity you can. If "they" win this election, it does not represent the majority of the American people, not even close. It represents a temporary win for special interests and the elite tyrants. They will not win.

323 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:20pm

re: #281 Adina in Judea

Eeyores should go soak their heads this evening.

Go McCain/Palin!

And Likud/Netanyahu in Israel!

324 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:37pm

re: #184 Pawn of the Oppressor

That's what liquor is for, guy!

/Drunk Thursday, the early start to the weekend

why do you wait for Thursday?

i start the weekend on monday...... %-)

Rudie can't fail!

325 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:48pm

re: #221 US Navy Wife

You're both wrong; this is Obama's theme song.

Ick.

I prefer the parody version:

"I hate you, you hate me,
Let's hang Barney from a tree...."

326 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:45:49pm

re: #306 Pawn of the Oppressor

I doubt this is real, but wouldn't that be something? What a hell of an October Surprise, an Iranian nuke! Jeez... Let's hope not... Let's hope Never!

I'd rather they be exposed as having it now and have it tip the election in McCain's favor than have it revealed just a few months after "The One" takes office, wouldn't you agree?

This is a boil that is going to have to be lanced eventually. Best to get it over with as soon as possible.

327 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:46:15pm

re: #321 Colonel Panik

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

Give me a break. A soldier without a weapon is like a cheesesteak without the cheese. It just don't work. Too many people are too hypersensitive about guns it's scary.

328 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:47:02pm

re: #312 US Navy Wife

Here's another, gmsc.


And this good old favorite

329 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:47:12pm

re: #323 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

re: #281 Adina in Judea

Eeyores should go soak their heads this evening.

Go McCain/Palin!

And Likud/Netanyahu in Israel!

Absolutely!

Go Likud/Netanyahu, too!

330 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:47:56pm

re: #300 Macker

And don't forget Killer Klowns from Outer Space!

What about Nature Trail to Hell (in 3-D!)?

331 Killian Bundy  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:48:07pm

re: #317 Jimmah

The End

/Los Endos

332 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:48:10pm

This is a great video by an Iraqi vet. This brought a lump to my throat. He really gives the strongest argument as to why McCain is the only choice if you love your freedom.

Link

333 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:49:06pm

re: #314 Colonel Panik

How about a little John Kerry moment..."Do the Lurch"

Lurch made more sense in that than anything that idiot Kerry's ever said.

334 JohnGaltLives  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:49:23pm

That was my first try at a link. Let me try again.

Link...

335 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:49:41pm

re: #270 US Navy Wife

You know we've got your back. My Army boys have much appreciation for the Navys backing them.

336 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:03pm

re: #321 Colonel Panik

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

Sorry, you are right.

It is quite annoying that people would object to a an American who does all he can to protect the people who would otherwise have died in the service of the nation. What do these people think they are teaching children?

337 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:19pm

Guys, this is a link from Redstate from a purported Obama operative. It is very long, but if you read only one blogpost from here until Tuesday, make it this one. It confirms everything I personally, instinctively, have felt is true.

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

Extract:

I’m going to let you in on a few secrets here, and this is not because I enjoy the gossip or the attention directed my way. I’m doing this because I doubt much of you know the true weaknesses of Obama. Another reason for my doing this is that I am lost faith in this campaign, and feel that this choice has been forced on many people in this country. Put simply, you are being manipulated. That was and is our job – to manipulate you (the electorate) and the media (we already had them months ago). Our goal is to create chaos with the other side, not hope. I’ve come to the realization (as the campaign already has) that if this comes to the issues, Barack Obama doesn’t have a chance. His only chance is to foster disorganization, chaos, despair, and a sense of inevitability among the Republicans. It has worked up until now. Joe the Plumber has put the focus on the issues again, and this scares us more than anything. Being in a position to know these things, I will rate what the Obama campaign already knows are their weak links from the most important on down. [...]

4 – The Bradley Effect. Don’t believe these polls for a second. I just went over our numbers and found that we have next to no chance in the following states: Missouri, Indiana, North Carolina, Florida, New Hampshire and Nevada. Ohio leans heavily to McCain, but is too close to call it for him. Virginia, Pennsylvania, Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa are the true “toss up states”. The only two of these the campaign feels “confident” in are Iowa and New Mexico. The reason for such polling discrepancy is the Bradley Effect, and this is a subject of much discussion in the campaign. In general, we tend to take a -10 point percentage in allowing for this, and are not comfortable until the polls give us a spread well over this mark. This is why we are still campaigning in Virginia and Pennsylvania! This is why Ohio is such a desperate hope for us! What truly bothers this campaign is the fact that some pollsters get up to an 80% “refuse to respond” result. You can’t possibly include these into the polls. The truth is, people are afraid to let people know who they are voting for. The vast majority of these respondents are McCain supporters. Obama is
the “hip” choice, and we all know it. [...]

As part of my research duties, I scour right wing blogs and websites to get somewhat of a “feel” as to what is being talked about on the other side. Much of it is nonsense, but there are some exceptions which give the campaign jitters. A spirited campaign has been made to infiltrate many pro-Hillary sites and discredit them. A more disorganized, but genuine effort has also been made to sow doubts among the unapologetically right wing sites such as redstate.com. Don’t you guys get it? This has been the Obama campaign’s sole strategy from the very beginning! The only way he wins is over a dispirited, disorganized, and demobilized opposition. [...]

Grain of salt of course, but you know, I kinda believe this.

338 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:42pm

re: #222 oh_dude

My wife have been annual passholders for Disneyland for like 10 years and I think we've gone every single year.

It's like an annual pilgrimage for all the Goth-type high school kids. Very cool. Definitely put it on your list.

how can Disneyland be the happiest place on earth when there isn't a bar on every corner?

339 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:48pm

re: #224 wolfie Me too - but since he's already 84 and can't have many friends left in the Senate or Alaska, I wonder who would replace him - would the Govenor of Alaska appoint an interim Senator for the rest of his term?
Hell, I don't even know who is gonna be the new Govenor of Alaska after January 20, 2009!

340 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:50:51pm

re: #267 Promethea

That was my question too.....Danger from whom? They should tell us who's threatening them. That certainly would be newsworthy.

Yup. First, how does releasing the tape reveal the source's identity? Presumably, the mere mention of the tape's existence narrows it down to those folks who were carrying a video camera that night, or who had access to the official videographer if there was one. So anyone who wanted to find the source and do them harm probably could manage that right now.

Second, who would want to find the source and do them harm?

Third, why would they want to do harm to the source any more avidly if the tape were released that they presumably do now? Now that the world knows that the tape exists and knows a little of its content, the Pandora's box is open -- you'd think that if leaking the tape was a dangerous thing to do, then the mere public reporting of its existence would trigger the dangerous response.

Best thing to do is to report that someone else has a transcript of the tape -- not a video copy -- and publish juicy excerpts from that transcript. That puts the LA Times in the position of having to put forward evidence to prove those excerpts are fabricated, which it can only do by releasing the tape (or at least showing it to a trustworthy third party). If they tried to rely on a reporter's assertion that the excerpts aren't on the tape, the two word response to that is "Jayson Blair."

341 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:51:06pm

I like Genesis so here's two of my favorites:

One For The Vine

Ripples

I know they're repeats but, what the hell..

342 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:51:15pm

re: #329 Adina in Judea

Absolutely!

Go Likud/Netanyahu, too!

I've noticed that the latest meme from the left is that "Likud controls Israel" and we have to "de-Likudify" our entire "peace process" - and of course, Obama will do this.

I've never seen an Israeli party mentioned by name in leftie/Dem complaints about Israel until this week, and then suddenly in about five different places I see Obama supporters bitching about Likud. I wonder who created this particular bogeyman, and why.

343 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:12pm

re: #314 Colonel Panik

How about a little John Kerry moment..."Do the Lurch"

Ted Cassidy - the '60s version of Tony Robbins!
;)

344 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:44pm

Ray Charles sings "America The Beautiful" listen to it...So beautiful!

345 faraway  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:55pm

re: #337 vbspurs

I don't believe a word of this.

346 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:52:57pm

re: #286 Mel Lono

Some relevant quotes from John Adams, 2nd POTUS:

A desire to be observed, considered, esteemed, praised, beloved, and admired by his fellows is one of the earliest as well as the keenest dispositions discovered in the heart of man.

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Abuse of words has been the great instrument of sophistry and chicanery, of party, faction, and division of society.

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All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.

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Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion... in private self-defense.

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As much as I converse with sages and heroes, they have very little of my love and admiration. I long for rural and domestic scene, for the warbling of birds and the prattling of my children.

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Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.

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Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

347 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:53:08pm

re: #312 US Navy Wife

Here's another, gmsc.

OMG I love that song. I like to drive by, when there are any protests with the top down on my car and blast it! LOL They could egg me, but they can't key me.

BTW, I got keyed just for having a "Soldier's Angels, We Support the Troops" magnet and they stole the magnet too!

348 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:53:51pm

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

There are polls out there backing up your gut feeling. They are getting better. You should have heard Dick Morris on Hannity and Karl Rove on Sustern.

349 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:54:08pm

re: #335 legalpad

You know we've got your back. My Army boys have much appreciation for the Navys backing them.

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

350 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:09pm

re: #345 faraway

I don't believe a word of this.

Ah, disinformation you think? I was so happy with the internal polling stats.

351 SurferDoc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:16pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

From my family to yours: Thanks for your service~

352 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:18pm

Amazing Grace - Fallen heroes

Bagpipes.

Might want to have some tissues nearby.

353 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:28pm

re: #346 Steffan

All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise, not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, not from want of honor or virtue, so much as from the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.

And this is from a guy who witnessed the French Revolution, too. John, wherever you are, thank you, and I wish more people listened to you.

354 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:55:35pm

re: #309 realwest

I'll lay odds that someone in Shehags' campaign did it to get some attention. Cindy ain't beating Pelosi anyway, but if you look at the end of the article it says:

"SOURCE Cindy Sheehan; Cindy for Congress
Copyright 2008 PR Newswire. All Rights Reserved."

One can only fantasize that the catfight between Pelosi and Sheehan divides the lunatic vote and allows the Republican candidate Dana Walsh in through the side door. But that's only a fantasy.

355 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:56:01pm

re: #351 SurferDoc

Thank you, SurferDoc

356 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:57:27pm

re: #342 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've noticed that the latest meme from the left is that "Likud controls Israel" and we have to "de-Likudify" our entire "peace process" - and of course, Obama will do this.

I've never seen an Israeli party mentioned by name in leftie/Dem complaints about Israel until this week, and then suddenly in about five different places I see Obama supporters bitching about Likud. I wonder who created this particular bogeyman, and why.

Because Tzipi Livni failed to form a government, and now the Israelis are going to the polls -- so it's entirely possible that Bibi Netanyahu will become the next Prime Minister of Israel.

357 nigella  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:57:54pm

Wow I never thought I would say this but I long for the days of Kerry or even,bite my tongue, Hillary. Obama is so completely devoid of any qualifications to even be dog catcher. I can't even fathom his being considered for POTUS.

358 US Navy Wife  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:58:33pm

ACK. Need to get to bed or I'll lose the battle of wits in the High School tomorrow.

359 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:59:27pm

Here is the story of families protesting Petty Officer Dietz's statue in the town close to an elementary school.
[Link: washingtontimes.com...]
It's annoying, perhaps tomorrow they will begin to protest school visits to the National Mall in Washington D.C. because of the various monuments to American Veterans of our wars to preserve liverty all over the world.

360 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 10:59:41pm

re: #357 nigella

Wow I never thought I would say this but I long for the days of Kerry or even,bite my tongue, Hillary. Obama is so completely devoid of any qualifications to even be dog catcher. I can't even fathom his being considered for POTUS.

Of all the things I mind about Obama's candidacy, this is the most galling -- that he is so outrageously far-left, that he makes me long for the days of a champagne leftist like Kerry, or a volcanically corrupt pol like Hillary.

See, I know their kind of politician. But Obama? No, he's a cipher.

361 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:00:11pm

re: #321 Colonel Panik

Actually it was Littleton, Colorado.

which is likely full of Californians......

(much as it pains me to say it. %-)

362 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:00:21pm

re: #345 faraway

I don't believe a word of this.

Rush Limbaugh read it on his show Tuesday. I mentioned it during that thread.

363 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:01:09pm

re: #361 redc1c4

which is likely full of Californians......

(much as it pains me to say it. %-)

Californication. *spit*

/how come moonbats always spoil their environments they settle in?

364 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:01:27pm

re: #347 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm kinda partial to this song.

365 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:02:16pm

re: #361 redc1c4

Littleton? Nah. Actually, there wasn't many people protesting it and I could only find two people protesting it.

366 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:02:35pm

re: #362 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rush Limbaugh read it on his show Tuesday. I mentioned it during that thread.

Yes, I am just reading that on one of the blogs. I put it in the Spinoff links, not realising you had already linked!

367 Adina in Judea  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:02:48pm

re: #342 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've never seen an Israeli party mentioned by name in leftie/Dem complaints about Israel until this week, and then suddenly in about five different places I see Obama supporters bitching about Likud. I wonder who created this particular bogeyman, and why.

Actually, I've seen Likud described in insulting terms by the U.S. left (as if Likud is an extreme party that is a danger to world peace) prior to this week.

They're mentioning Likud a lot this week because Likud/Netanyahu have the best chance of winning and forming a government in February.

Kadima is neck and neck with Likud in the polls right now, but they don't have much of a chance (if at all) to form a government if they win. This will have an impact on Israel's voters in February.

Meanwhile, the Labor Party is expected to be almost totally decimated.

So Israel will most likely have a strong right wing government soon.

368 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:03:22pm

re: #361 redc1c4

which is likely full of Californians......

(much as it pains me to say it. %-)

The Californication of Colorado created the Coloradical.

369 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:03:57pm

re: #364 Steffan

I'm kinda partial to this song.

Great series of pictures with it, too.

370 legalpad  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:04:23pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

Boy, is he ever "backing" them. You're right - the Navy does everything now. (I though he might fly a jet off a carrier. Ground troops regard a good air strike as real life-savers. It's sounds like he does just what my boys do. And your guy works with a dog finding weapons- wow. He may have already saved my boys from snipers.

371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:04:33pm

re: #366 vbspurs

Yes, I am just reading that on one of the blogs. I put it in the Spinoff links, not realising you had already linked!

No, I didn't link to it. I was here on LGF and home for lunch when he was reading it and mentioned it.

372 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:04:36pm

Echoes part 1
Greatest Halloween music ever. Have it looped for over an hour, leave the bowl of candy outside. Enjoy the evening.

373 Karridine  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:05:02pm

re: #345 faraway

I don't believe a word of this.

Respectfully, faraway, can you share your reasoning?

Does the report NOT conform to your experience? Do you believe a dedicated Hillary democrat, working for Obama, cannot love America enough to decide AGAINST Obama?

What precisely leads you to believe the report is untrustworthy?

374 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:05:32pm

re: #371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, I didn't link to it. I was here on LGF and home for lunch when he was reading it and mentioned it.

Ah, I see. I'm curious about Faraway's visceral reaction against this otherwise well-written post. It was a quixotically knee-jerk reaction from a Lizard, IMO.

375 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:06pm

re: #373 Karridine

What precisely leads you to believe the report is untrustworthy?

I just posted something similar. It was an instantaneous reaction too.

376 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:10pm

re: #373 Karridine

Respectfully, faraway, can you share your reasoning?

Does the report NOT conform to your experience? Do you believe a dedicated Hillary democrat, working for Obama, cannot love America enough to decide AGAINST Obama?

What precisely leads you to believe the report is untrustworthy?

See my #362.

377 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:33pm
378 stuiec  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:37pm

re: #292 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hells Bells, Bill Clinton sold OUR missile technology to the Chinese for campaign donations.

I meant to mention that too. What a POS.

Jimmy Carter revealed the Stealth technology program publicly in order to give the appearance that he was standing strong against the Soviets (when he was, in fact, projecting weakness with all of his foreign policy initiatives). He outed the most important, most secret military-industrial technology development of its time simply to improve his chances of re-election... that, and possibly to give the Soviets a needed heads-up about a game-changing strategic threat. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that the GRU turned him when he was an officer in Admiral Rickover's nuclear Navy.

379 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:06:41pm

Hmmm, Hallowe'en music huh? I think Nick Cave has the sound for a good evening of spooky. :)

380 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:08:58pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

give him a big Bravo Zulu from this old GI.

381 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:08pm

re: #352 Gus 802

Tissues for sure. That hits me too close to homebut I'm glad you posted it. The pic is no longer online but it was of my nephew's l11 yr. old daughter putting a rose on her dad's flag covered coffin. We had a piper to play Amazing Grace. Bless the guy's heart, he was an Los Angeles city fireman and came all the way down to San Diego to play the pipes and didn't want to charge us. I remember forcing gas money on him. God Bless all of those who fight for our freedoms.

382 Boogberg  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:12pm
383 realwest  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:21pm

Well all y'all it's waaay past my bedtime here!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Good night, all.

384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:44pm

re: #374 vbspurs

Ah, I see. I'm curious about Faraway's visceral reaction against this otherwise well-written post. It was a quixotically knee-jerk reaction from a Lizard, IMO.

Rush was reading from Hillbuzz, which has been referenced here at LGF numerous times. And at the time we were talking about it, before Rush started reading it, and I posted that Rush had started talking about it.

385 Intrepid  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:50pm

Woot! Uniform green footballs are back again!

Greetings to the night crew!

386 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:09:56pm

re: #365 Gus 802

Littleton? Nah. Actually, there wasn't many people protesting it and I could only find two people protesting it.

and yet it made the national news......

/go figure

387 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:10:22pm

re: #318 realwest

I don't run it. I am a mid-level flunky. I started at the bottom and have worked my way up through the ranks.

We do market research.

I am very worried that Obamanomics will wipe us out. We can barely afford what we do as it is now.

I don't want to talk too much the companies specifics. I have to be mindful of the companies interest and my own. If/when I get laid of over the next couple of months, I will be a little freer to talk. But for now, I must be circumspect.

388 shanec99  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:11:26pm

re: #370 legalpad

Boy, is he ever "backing" them. You're right - the Navy does everything now. (I though he might fly a jet off a carrier. Ground troops regard a good air strike as real life-savers. It's sounds like he does just what my boys do. And your guy works with a dog finding weapons- wow. He may have already saved my boys from snipers.

I am a Navy Corpsman, I was over there in 2006, working on a MITT in Taji (just north of Baghdad). We have many Navy people all over Iraq and Afghanistan and HOA in GWOT assignments. Right now I am in HOA (downrange), not up in Djibouti. This is likely going to be my last deployment before I retire. It's been a good ride and I have met some fantastic young people.

The stories we read in the media about America's youth being weak selfish and unprepared to deal with difficulties are being undermined by what I see everyday here in Africa. If most American's could see their children in these parts of the world where we are combating American enemies with the force of arms, by building schools and hospitals they would change their mind.

America's youth are as strong and as dedicated to the service of America, they would do the WWII generation proud. As a Navy CPO I am proud to serve with and lead them.

389 BlueCanuck  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:11:39pm

re: #385 Intrepid

Hey Intrepid, we are trying out that whole Marxist proletariat look thingie. ;)

390 Bummer  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:11:48pm
391 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:12:58pm

re: #364 Steffan

I'm kinda partial to this song.


That song kind of cheered me up. We need to play it through Tuesday.

392 quickredfox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:00pm

Latest Report on McCain Sign Status on Commute Route of quickredfox:

The signs took a hit over the last couple of days and a couple are missing. The remaining ones (two small ones, and the two large ones) are battered but unbowed. This time someone had put some blue tape over one of the large ones (at first I thought it was blue paint), but by the time I got home from work the owner had taken the tape off so the sign was clear again, although the smaller signs that had been attached to it were gone. One of the smaller yard signs had a plastic covering over it but otherwise seemed fine. Another was torn a little, but on my nighttime mission run I brought some tape along and taped it up. The number of O signs on the route is back down to one. There had been another one on a certain corner with some local candidate signs, but apparently whoever owns that corner didn't want any signs there. All the signs were gone from there a day or so after the O sign went up, and haven't reappeared.

It has been windy and a little rainy today and some of the miscellaneous candidate signs have been taking a beating. I expect all the smaller signs of every candidate will get a whacking tonight as the wind is rising and it is supposed to rain some more. The two big homemade McCain signs are set pretty solid so I expect they will hold up fine, and maybe lefty will stay inside and leave them alone.

393 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:20pm

re: #386 redc1c4

Perhaps it was the Columbine angle so the news media took the ball and ran with it.

394 tradewind  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:23pm

Re the Iowahawk brilliance a few threads down:
(and he is some kind of damn genius, Charles, damn straight...) the distressing thing is that as funny as this is as a parody, it explained something I've wondered about for the past few weeks: why a few good friends who have always voted Republican, who have much to lose from the BHO redistribution strategy, and who love this country, are going to vote for him.
It makes me sad, frustrates me, ticks me off at them, but at least now I know from whence the madness springs. It's a latent snobbery that has reared its ugly head, and they don't even realize it.... would deny it.
Please let their kids branch out, marry into a Palin-esque gene pool, and dilute the brain-fogging blue sludge flowing through their veins.
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

395 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:13:44pm

re: #337 vbspurs

Guys, this is a link from Redstate from a purported Obama operative.

On a Hillary blog, there is a postscript from this same purported operative. Again, grain of salt.

I was going to write a long response to validate and defend myself, but I just don’t feel that its necessary. I am sorry some feel offended by my post. I have no shame or guilt, we all have careers but don’t necessarily agree with the boss. My duties are so benign and clerical that I don’t have a hand in what I feel is a “game”. The “game” as I see it is much like a play on vanity, its a ruffle up your feathers to appear larger kind of game. The campaign is now nearing 1 billion dollars, a 1 billion dollar campaign. Can you imagine, if 1 little girl came forth and tried to take on that kind of establishment. I am not the person for that, and its not possible for me to do without implosion. I am not sure I can offer much up that would take notice in the MSM and get reported. My story would not make news, its not newsworthy. Its not illegal, the ideas I am suggesting. Its smoke and mirrors, sure. Its playing with emotions, absolutely. But, to the masses and to the pundits it would be viewed as “campaigning” and you would be told that it was just Obama being the “better” campaigner.

The truth is simple. The idea is to appear as a winner. To deflate your opponent. To overwhelm your opponent. To confuse your opponent. And to own the airwaves. There was a mass coordination on foreigners to visit online sites and vote to declare who won in the debates. Did you notice that John Mccain seemed to lose and lose badly every time. Where did all those voters come from?

[...]This election is down to a candidate that wants to win for his own desires and down to a candidate that wants to win for the country. Don’t allow yourself to be told what is right by anyone, review the facts, take a long good look at the candidate and decide what you believe is the right choice for us, for everyone in the united states. Your vote is your vote. Don’t allow a massive machine to feed you the answer.

I wrote the initial post to tell everyone to remain calm, stay firm in your convictions, vote with your heart don’t let the news and polls keep you and your will down. The news channels, the advertisements, the polls, are not the truth. They are not the truth. The truth is inside the people. Don’t be discouraged, and don’t give up.

And please, just ignore any oppositional voice on any forum, youtube, etc. Ask yourself one question, would there really be this much activity and opposition all on its own? Or were they sent, was this their mission? What seems more plausible?

How about the polls, how were the skewed? Take a look at the internals, always. But, above that think about something. How wold a polling company get paid? How would this be a viable business just on its own? They get paid by networks, ever notice how every two hours there is a pollster being interviewed and talking about his polls. Ever notice, the polls one day will have Barack Obama leading by 12, then the next day leading by 5, then the next day up to 8. How is that possible? Think about just one poll, that has Barack up 13 points, how badly would that destroy the average? [...]

396 I heart the USA  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:00pm

re: #301 nigella

re: #301 nigella

Don't quote me , but for the first time I believe McCain/Palin will win this. Don't ask me why just my gut feeling. Of course a lot can happen before Tuesday. Just have this feeling.

I feel exactly the same. I don't know exactly why. I think maybe it's from the anecdotal stories of closet Mac supporters I read on blogs. There are so many of these stories, even if only a fraction are true. Sad day when American citizens feel forced to lie about or conceal their political views. I'm going with the Silenced [sic] Majority theory.

I, along with many of my friends, haven't displayed Mac bumper stickers or signs, and my area is quite a conservative area of SoCal (there are a few, LOL). To make up for my cowardice I have donated hundreds to Mac, plus a c note 3 days ago to Nat'l Repub. Trust which is running the Wright ad.

I'm trusting my gut!

397 Redline  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:12pm

re: #349 US Navy Wife

My husband is an explosive detection dog handler. He's been with both the Marines and the Army in Iraq - doing raids, checking for hidden weapons. To date, he and his dog have found the largest cache in Iraq. He's got his combat action ribbon - much more than having the Army's back.

The Navy is participating in ways heretofore unheard of.

On behalf of myself and friends, a big THANK YOU to your husband and yourself.

398 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:23pm

re: #385 Intrepid

Woot! Uniform green footballs are back again!

Greetings to the night crew!

Charles turned all of our avatars because of the higher traffic expected at LGF in the morning and as 11/4 gets closer.

399 Mel Lono  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:26pm

re: #379 BlueCanuck

Maybe the video would scare the kids from the door. But not enough close on fear factor.

400 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:46pm

re: #390 Bummer

Breaking News: New Election Dates Set

Careful with that! You could confuse NBC viewers!

401 RTLM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:48pm

McCain to be on SNL.
link

He better make good use of the time - since he can’t afford a 6 network media dry hump. If he does as well as he did at that fancy dinner in NYC, it will help. If he doesn't its just more free ratings for NBC.

402 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:14:56pm

re: #384 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Rush was reading from Hillbuzz, which has been referenced here at LGF numerous times. And at the time we were talking about it, before Rush started reading it, and I posted that Rush had started talking about it.

Gotcha. Not too sure what this has to do with Faraway's reactions though. Did s/he mention something negative after your post, which I inadvertently triggered?

403 lummox  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:15:48pm
404 Gus 802  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:15:57pm

re: #401 RTLM

I saw that this afternoon and thought "great news." It's a great opportunity for him. Others might disagree but what the hay.

405 rosenblumenthal  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:16:27pm

My friend's friend is baking Obama-themed cakes. I'm a little embarassed for my generation. Being on a college campus won't be fun on Election Day...

406 Steffan  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:16:34pm

re: #369 quickredfox

The same poster also posted tributes to William Tecumseh Sherman and Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain. Incredible pictures.

407 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:03pm

re: #402 vbspurs

Gotcha. Not too sure what this has to do with Faraway's reactions though. Did s/he mention something negative after your post, which I inadvertently triggered?

Honestly, I do not remember. Don't even know if he/she was there.

408 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:06pm

re: #401 RTLM

He better make good use of the time - since he can’t afford a 6 network media dry hump. If he does as well as he did at that fancy dinner in NYC, it will help. If he doesn't its just more free ratings for NBC.

Oh yes! I forgot to post this on my own blog. Carl Cameron broke the news during Shep's newscast.

I remember thinking that Obama is playing it cool, and that McCain gained momentum after his absolutely hilarious Alfred E. Smith Dinner roast. Let's hope he scores another bull's eye.

409 RTLM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:46pm

btw: LARGE improvement in LGF speed and handling with the Green clangers in the stead of the fancy icons.

410 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:50pm

re: #383 realwest

Goodnight, Realwest. We'll see you down the road for sure. Take care.

411 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:17:50pm

re: #405 rosenblumenthal

My friend's friend is baking Obama-themed cakes. I'm a little embarassed for my generation. Being on a college campus won't be fun on Election Day...

Remember, you may be running for president one day, so you'll need to make at least 2-3 friends whose associations can later embarrass you!

412 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:18:00pm

re: #407 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Honestly, I do not remember. Don't even know if he/she was there.

Aha. So far, silence. Interesting.

413 pat  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:19:08pm

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world. But I think it will be closer than some think. Obama's first act will be to destroy the military because he knows that it must be done quickly. Clinton did the same thing, humbled the generals, delayed programs, failed to appoint heads, canceled what he could.
Wonderful.

414 vbspurs  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:19:56pm

re: #413 pat

I think Palin will lose. She is strung to a loser and the hatred of the entire world.

?

415 gmsc  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:16pm

The big shock on Tuesday will be when New Hampshire, Iowa and Maine go to McCain!

416 RTLM  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:20pm

re: #413 pat

/Gee thanks pat.

417 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:22pm

re: #402 vbspurs

Gotcha. Not too sure what this has to do with Faraway's reactions though. Did s/he mention something negative after your post, which I inadvertently triggered?

But to me it sounds very plausible. There's also the post from a former speechwriter for Obama who became so disillusioned with the attacks upon Sarah Palin she quit and said she's voting for McCain/Palin. That I'm not sure about.

418 Syrah  Thu, Oct 30, 2008 11:20:42pm