Joe got screwed!

Big brother.

May the truth be behind this be the headlines on Monday and Tuesday! More stink sticking to Obama is just what we need to to down him.

re: #1 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Joe got screwed!

Actually, the Democrats have tried to screw him but they are the ones will get it in the end.

[snicker]

If Joe sues, there would be discovery involved. If there is anything in emails, various metadata, etc. can be pulled up. If this was done sloppy, they already have a problem on their hands.

re: #2 stuck in california

What's funny is that program is on cbs.

Ohio...quelle surprise.

Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.

Seeing Joe sue would be a three ring Circus.

In the parallel universe inhabited by BO and his supporters we can't wiretap terrorists, but we can anal-probe plumbers who ask inconvenient questions.

Most people in the real world see how ridiculous that is and that is why BO will LOSE THE ELECTION!

I ain't sayin' another bad word about the One.

/

Another reason this story stinks - Joe's son lives with him. As far as I know, that's his only child. Why would they even be justified in doing a child-support search?

Hooo boy...her boss/supervisor is the lady with three names, right? Ms. Maximum Obama Donor?

The was I had read Charles' headline here and subsequent comments-- was that the story itself was incorrect.

If you upset the one, you will become an unperson!

Liberals are indeed the true fascists.

I'm dressing up as Joe The Plumber for Halloween tonight.

re: #12 arethusa

Another reason this story stinks - Joe's son lives with him. As far as I know, that's his only child. Why would they even be justified in doing a child-support search?

Someone digging for dirt would hit all angles they could.

Where is Chuck Schumer and the ACLU filing lawsuits and holding hearings?
...Crickets...

Isn't it amazing how he -The ONE- gets away with it all.

This is the scariest election I have ever seen.

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the Democrats have tried to screw him but they are the ones will get it in the end.

[snicker]

Touche!

The headline makes it sound like there was no privacy violation...

re: #14 astronmr20

The was I had read Charles' headline here and subsequent comments-- was that the story itself was incorrect.

translate please.

One story I read said they were trying to see if there was a reason they should have him arrested. I can't remember where I saw that one, though...had to have only been one of two or three places.

My X owes just under $100,000.00 in back C.S..

This story pisses me off beyond belief.

Stupid motherfucking idiots use tax-dollars to check on a citizen based on political greed?

Chicago Thug Politics. Hell...typical democrat politics.

Why is this not surprising? If I were Joe, I'd find a lawyer willing to run with it (tough, since most sharks are libs!) and sue the friggin' pants off of a lot of people!

This is akin to that Clinton flunkie found in the basement of the White House trolling through all those FBI dossiers of Republicans.

Yes this stinks. This is abuse of power to invade a citizen's privacy for partisan and nefarious purposes. There needs to be an accounting.

Joe sue these jerks into the poor house.

No dictators.

Not on my watch!

What's extra bad about this isn't that his records were searched, it was that they were searched three separate times and places by different parties. They all need to go down. This is an extreme violation of liberties. Has anyone brought this to the attention of EFF? Perhaps they would aid in pursuit of justice since we know that the ACLU won't.

Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else think the dems are playing with fire? Character assassination of anyone who challenges the messiah and open vote rigging by the dems to ensure their victory. When it becomes clear that the elections process has been irrevocably corrupted in favor of the dems, do they really think the Reps will just give up? Remember, we are the bitter gun clingers.

re: #8 Hard Right

Scratch a liberal, find a fascist socialist.

And all a socialist is, is a communist with out a spine.

I'm confused. Should I ignore the 'Question Authority' bumperstickers?

I think "unraveling" refers to the original story coming from Ms. Maximum Obama Donor. This employee contradicts her.

Don't you know only Terrorists and their supporters can have their privacy violated.

/sarc

re: #23 ratherdashing

translate please.

pop...glug glug glug

re: #10 CIA Reject

In the parallel universe inhabited by BO and his supporters we can't wiretap terrorists, but we can anal-probe plumbers who ask inconvenient questions.

Most people in the real world see how ridiculous that is and that is why BO will LOSE THE ELECTION!

... and indeed he shall. In the final hours, the collective good American people across this great land will examine and weigh and decide. They shall shun the leftist socialist, the imbalanced dark powers and true hope will light our way forward.

Zogby: McCain leads.
I hear now in the coming FoxNews poll: McCain leads

The peoples are speaking.

Director Helen Jones-Kelley said her agency checks people who are "thrust into the public spotlight,"

The people who need to be checked are the ones who are doing the thrusting.

re: #17 TheMatrix31

I'm dressing up as Joe The Plumber for Halloween tonight.

Pull your trousers up man, there are kids arround.

re: #33 Killer Tomato

Question 'O'thority

Is it too late to organize a boycott of the election?

I see that the headline was confusing some people -- it's rewritten to (hopefully) be clearer.

re: #38 Kreuzueber Halbmond

The people who need to be checked are the ones who are doing the thrusting.

Indeed.

So this person is saying that she was told "the man had contacted the state agency about his case". Little bit of discrepancy there.

re: #33 Killer Tomato

I'm confused. Should I ignore the 'Question Authority' bumperstickers?

The new century version of that is "Question Bureacracy"

re: #7 Occasional Reader

Don't you mean QUE SORPRESA ?
Admit it. You're lost, aren't you? You don't remember where you are.

re: #14 astronmr20

The was I had read Charles' headline here and subsequent comments-- was that the story itself was incorrect.

Huh? Can you repeat that?

At McCain headquarters today, there was a brisk business in buttons reading ' Say it Ain't So, Joe!'

Insult Kim Jong-Il - go to the reeducation camps...

Insult B-HO - go through an anal probe, then off to the reeducation camps.

A B-HO Presidency. Wait til the weasel tries to amend the Constitution to allow himself to be declared POTUS For Life. Hell, he'd probably just issue an Executive Order, once his brown-shirt squads get organized...

Remember right before the 2006 mid-term election when Chuck "the schmuck" Schumer's goons illegally obtained Michael Steele's credit report when Steele was a US senate candidate? This should not surprise anyone. It certainly doesn't surprise me. More libturd dirty tricks.

She's a member/director of a local organization that is focused solely on blacks.

I posted a link to it the other day.

Well, actually Obama is just great. I, Rancher, love Obama. I think he may actually be the Messiah! Love his wife. Spread the wealth is just great. He didn't really know Ayers, ACORN, Rev. Wright, or Khalid.

/Not intimidated, only careful.

Unfortunately the MSM will pass on this and nothing will happen to the wrong-doers.

re: #40 jaunte

LOL
upding!

re: #27 6pat6

Why is this not surprising? If I were Joe, I'd find a lawyer willing to run with it (tough, since most sharks are libs!) and sue the friggin' pants off of a lot of people!

True, but when they smell blood in the water, and a big payout at the end . . .

re: #37 Max Darkside

... and indeed he shall. In the final hours, the collective good American people across this great land will examine and weigh and decide. They shall shun the leftist socialist, the imbalanced dark powers and true hope will light our way forward.

Zogby: McCain leads.
I hear now in the coming FoxNews poll: McCain leads

The peoples are speaking.

The Sleeping Giant of the Silent Majority is just now starting to come out from under the cover they have been using to hide from all those tolerant BO supporters- like this piece of scum who tried to smear Joe.

Privacy Violations, Coverup All In A Day's Work For Ohio Dems

Funny but there was a member at MyBarrackObama.com from Coldwater Ohio named Brad Niekamp.

Brad Niekamp
Profile
Location: Coldwater, OH
Why I support Barack Obama: I support Barack Obama simply because he is an inspirational man. In a world of so much doubt, he brings a glimmer of hope. Hope that we as a people might dig ourselves out of a pit of dispair. He may be our only hope at getting this great country back to what made it great in the first place. I feel that the "pursuit of happiness" may just end for all of us if we do not act soon. Barack is the man who can bring this action. The American dream can be made a reality if only we the people make it happen, and the Obama/Biden ticket is the way to do it.
Birth Date: May 22nd
Issues: economic fairness / security; smart energy policy; good government / ethics; affordable health care; education
Registered to Vote: Yes

Only in truth can we find true happiness.

Whats doubly odd is that I had to use Google's cache to see that. His profile page has been scrubbed from the Official Website.

Get a screenshot now. Google hearts Obama.

Welcome to the world of an Obama presidency... he uses state computers to trash even an ordinary person he perceives as a threat, he squashes media dissent, and he whines in an effort to shut up his opposition's advertising. How Orwellian is that...

re: #39 JeremyR

Pull your trousers up man, there are kids arround.

I bought a white shirt, and wrote on it with a thick sharpie "JOE".

Then I got a tool holder thing (not exactly a belt) to put on my waist, and I got a wrench and a mini plunger.

re: #33 Killer Tomato

I'm confused. Should I ignore the 'Question Authority' bumperstickers?

many updings

Charles: noticed a couple things missing in the sidebar, good decision. It's been missing from my site awhile.

re: #59 Mich-again

Good work.

God Damn shenanigans are coming home...to roost! And shit all over obambi and the donk socialist asshats!

Those bastages.

Director Helen Jones-Kelley said her agency checks people who are "thrust into the public spotlight," amid suggestions they may have come into money, to see if they owe support or are receiving undeserved public assistance.

That last point won't kick in big time until Obama starts spreading the wealth.

Surprise surprise, Helen Jones-Kelley has contributed $2500 to Obama

re: #51 Rancher

Well, actually Obama is just great. I, Rancher, love Obama. I think he may actually be the Messiah! Love his wife. Spread the wealth is just great. He didn't really know Ayers, ACORN, Rev. Wright, or Khalid.

/Not intimidated, only careful.

I HAD to down ding that one. DO NOT GO GENTLY!

re: #59 Mich-again

I don't understand how some people can seriously write hooey like this:

"In a world of so much doubt, he brings a glimmer of hope. Hope that we as a people might dig ourselves out of a pit of dispair."

Is there something about 'vengeful asshole' in the criteria the DNC uses to select candidates?

This is what we get here in California before Prop 8 passes, but hopefully not after (Same Sex Marriage overturn).[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #50 MandyManners

I don't like that sentence at all.

re: #68 Neo Con since 9-11

Must be a pretty damn high civil service grade...

re: #59 Mich-again

Google Hearts all leftist thugs. Google clubs Chinese dissidents.

re: #48 6pat6

A B-HO Presidency. Wait til the weasel tries to amend the Constitution to allow himself to be declared POTUS For Life.

He (apparently, don't know if this blog post is true) did tell a staffer that eight years might not be enough for what he wants to do.

Such a law about a lifetime Presidency would have to be a constitutional amendment, though.

re: #15 gmsc

If you upset the one, you will become an unperson!

I'm gonna make The One an unwinner!

re: #48 6pat6

Insult Kim Jong-Il - go to the reeducation camps...

Insult B-HO - go through an anal probe, then off to the reeducation camps.

A B-HO Presidency. Wait til the weasel tries to amend the Constitution to allow himself to be declared POTUS For Life. Hell, he'd probably just issue an Executive Order, once his brown-shirt squads get organized...

This is the same stuff that the 'other side' says about Bush on a regular basis. Don't be like them.

These are the same people who believe our entire constitutional order is threatened if we tap the phone lines of calls made abroad to known terrorists. What a joke.

re: #63 Thanos

Charles: noticed a couple things missing in the sidebar, good decision. It's been missing from my site awhile.

See the 'Friday Evening Open' thread for the ugly details.

I'm finished supporting Robert Spencer. He made his choices, and that's that.

A repost from a few threads back, but fitting here, nonetheless...

I was paid a high compliment today.

I frequently fire links to articles to a number of friends and work acquaintances - stuff I know they will not come across because they're far busier than me, and less dedicated to sitting down at their computers for five or six hours every night.

Sent around a link for the LGF thread on Tito the Builder.

One of them emailed back, "Noam the Informer."

Tee hee.

re: #68 Neo Con since 9-11

Surprise surprise, Helen Jones-Kelley has contributed $2500 to Obama

Wait, isn't that over the limit? By about $200?

re: #23 ratherdashing

translate please.

"story unraveling..."

Meaning it's falling apart, I thought.

re: #61 TheMatrix31

I bought a white shirt, and wrote on it with a thick sharpie "JOE".

Then I got a tool holder thing (not exactly a belt) to put on my waist, and I got a wrench and a mini plunger.

I heard that the real Joe has a tattoo on his keester. It says, "If you can read this, I'm WORKING"

re: #68 Neo Con since 9-11

When I saw that, I had a feeling (unsupported by any evidence) that the $200 contribution was hers, and the $2300 was given her to contribute.
(Why break it up into those two increments?)

re: #84 JeremyR

I heard that the real Joe has a tattoo on his keester. It says, "If you can read this, I'm WORKING"

No tattoos for me. I'll just have to go ahead with that minor omission.

re: #76 arethusa

That's a scary blog.

McCain is going to win it, I can feel it moving thataway lol.

Earlier I read on hillbuzz a person who said she was an obama staffer.
She basically stated that the polls are being stacked, that they are having staffers blog to dispirit McCain supporters and that if the R's go and vote that obama will lose.

I believe this!

re: #85 jaunte

When I saw that, I had a feeling (unsupported by any evidence) that the $200 contribution was hers, and the $2300 was given her to contribute.
(Why break it up into those two increments?)

Payday?

re: #89 capitalist piglet

Isn't $2300 the legal limit?

This is only the beginning if the Zero wins.
He will control both Houses and within 2 years the Court.

He can wiretap, investigate and supress anything he wants. There will be no one to stop him. The anal probe Joe got is nothing compared to what the Zero will do to others that get in his way once has power.

This scares the crap out of me.

re: #78 middlecon

Yeah, but the Jackasses ARE Socialists. Bush is not. I do not put this kind of shit past them, not one bit.

re: #84 JeremyR

I heard that the real Joe has a tattoo on his keester. It says, "If you can read this, I'm WORKING"

He could get a tat on his keester that say J on the left cheek and E on the right. That'd work.

Newest Zogby poll;
McCain 48
Nobama 47

re: #80 Charles

Ok, I'll go check it out.

This is such an abuse of power. This needs a response.

But Bush was wiretapping Americans conversations with overseas terrorists!

re: #59 Mich-again

Interestingly... the official Brad was terminated at 11:43pm 2 Oct 08.

When was the 3rd debate again?

re: #57 Hard Right

*WHACK*

Used to be a Saturday morning live-action tv show in the 70s called "Run Joe Run."

I'd like to see "Sue, Joe, Sue!"

And by Sue I don't mean a female's name!

re: #37 Max Darkside

... and indeed he shall. In the final hours, the collective good American people across this great land will examine and weigh and decide. They shall shun the leftist socialist, the imbalanced dark powers and true hope will light our way forward.

Zogby: McCain leads.
I hear now in the coming FoxNews poll: McCain leads

The peoples are speaking.

Link to Zogby?

re: #91 johngaltlives

Not going to happen.

Gird your loins.

Gird something, anyway.

I'm betting that, as the Joe privacy violation story unfolds, more of the Jennifer Brunner bogus voter registrations story will do so as well.

Once it starts rolling, it won't stop.

Gas is $2.15 at the local station. I got the privilege of voting against The Obama today. The car mechanic finally figured out what has been plaguing my car for the last year. I went to a great formal party this evening. Talked to the girl I love, yet our non-relationship is more tragic than Greek tragedy. In all, a good day. And alas, I have to go to more parties the next two days. Oh, the suffering.

re: #80 Charles

See the 'Friday Evening Open' thread for the ugly details.

I'm finished supporting Robert Spencer. He made his choices, and that's that.

I was reading his profile, is something missing?

re: #94 RirghtSideOfTheFence

Newest Zogby poll;
McCain 48
Nobama 47

Fox News said on-air tonight:
McCain: 49
Obama: 47

re: #100 MandyManners

*WHACK*

Ow, ow!

Baracks bimbos?

I thought it was scary when Clinton used the IRS to audit Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick, Monica Lewinsky, The American Spectator, National Review, Bill OReilly, etc... But this takes it to a whole new level. It's pretty sad when I think the best thing to do is keep quiet. Who will they destroy next? If they're willing to go after someone as insignificant as Joe the Plumber they'll go after anybody.

I wonder if Obama will check pass email too? If so I'm screwed. I will be executed if they check text messages.

re: #78 middlecon

This is the same stuff that the 'other side' says about Bush on a regular basis. Don't be like them.

Under the eeeviiil Patriot Act some americans making calls to dodgy people over-seas were listened to and some other long standing practices were codified (see Gorelik arguments during Clinton renewal of FISA)

Under Obama, a private citizen or local journalist disagreeing with a presidential candidate gets dry anal raped.

a little hyperbole might be forgiven

The zero is NOT leading by 30pts and he SHOULD be, what with the pass given him by the MSM, their refusal to do ANY true investigative reporting.
McCain is gonna wipe the floor with his sorry arse.

re: #102 Junior

Link to Zogby?

Drudge... Main headline
[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

re: #105 David IV of Georgia

Talked to the girl I love, yet our non-relationship is more tragic than Greek tragedy.

Make your move. my friend. I am talking from experience, and regret.

The desperation to discredit Joe is because of this and many other reasons:

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

be sure to click on the link to REDSTATE at the bottom of the post too.

In the case of Barack Hussein Obama perception is everything.

re: #70 jaunte

I don't understand how some people can seriously write hooey like this:

"In a world of so much doubt, he brings a glimmer of hope. Hope that we as a people might dig ourselves out of a pit of dispair."

Well he can't spell.
I read the whole thing; now my head hurts.
And my cat could probably write better than that.

Wow, the Columbus Dispatch endorsed McCain. That's shocking.

re: #103 Noam Sayin'

I do not what I would do without my fellow LIzards. This and campaigning are the only things keeping me sane. Otherwise I would be building a bunker deep in the mountains of Wyoming. //

re: #107 Max Darkside

Fox News said on-air tonight:
McCain: 49
Obama: 47

Clarification: That is the FOX NEWS POLL (different from Zogby's)

re: #116 Killer Tomato

It's hard to dig out of the pit of dispair when your loins are all girded.

re: #106 JeremyR

Yes;

Racism Supporter

re: #82 arethusa

Wait, isn't that over the limit? By about $200?

Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley donated the maximum to Obama. Then donated an extra $200 separately. Since that second donation was only $200 she didn't need to sign her name to it but for some bizarre reason she did, basically admitting she was committing a violation of federal election law.

Can someone tell me how to find an article about Hellen Jones-Kenney that I posted?

Since Democrats are more likely to have government jobs, particularly in "human services," I don't see any way we can stop this sort of abuse of power unless we drastically reduce or eliminate these harmful agencies.

re: #120 jaunte

I heard girding your loins makes sex last longer.//

Just to quote Drudge:

"ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error... The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all..."

re: #122 Neo Con since 9-11

Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley donated the maximum to Obama. Then donated an extra $200 separately. Since that second donation was only $200 she didn't need to sign her name to it but for some bizarre reason she did, basically admitting she was committing a violation of federal election law.

At least we know where $200 of the $700,000,000 came from!

XLVII

"Think as I think," said a man,
"Or you are abominably wicked;
You are a toad."

And after I had thought of it,
I said, "I will, then, be a toad."

re: #90 jaunte

Isn't $2300 the legal limit?

I think so, so yeah, it is odd.

re: #122 Neo Con since 9-11

Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley donated the maximum to Obama. Then donated an extra $200 separately. Since that second donation was only $200 she didn't need to sign her name to it but for some bizarre reason she did, basically admitting she was committing a violation of federal election law.

These people make me sick

re: #124 hermeneutics

Since Democrats are more likely to have government jobs, particularly in "human services," I don't see any way we can stop this sort of abuse of power unless we drastically reduce or eliminate these harmful agencies.

here here!
or is it
hear hear!

I never really thought about that before.

re: #120 jaunte

It's hard to dig out of the pit of dispair when your loins are all girded.

If mine are girded then it's been a good day.

re: #126 astronmr20

I need to read the details. State polls lag the nationals. But what really counts are electoral votes. We need those battle ground states.

re: #118 johngaltlives

I do not what I would do without my fellow LIzards. This and campaigning are the only things keeping me sane. Otherwise I would be building a bunker deep in the mountains of Wyoming. //

There's one there already. Knock on the door and see if they'll let you in.

re: #128 Noam Sayin'
BTW, it is against the law to lick toads in Australia.

What is so bizarre about Zogby having McCain in the lead is that yesterday he had an Obama +12 day.

re: #130 coquimbojoe

re: #122 Neo Con since 9-11

Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley donated the maximum to Obama. Then donated an extra $200 separately. Since that second donation was only $200 she didn't need to sign her name to it but for some bizarre reason she did, basically admitting she was committing a violation of federal election law.

These people make me sick

And not a damn thing will happen to her.

Any links to this fox news poll? I don't see it on the fox news homepage.

I think it would be hilarious if that whiney infomercial turned out to be the real turning point.

Only the 'truly dedicated' are voting early, I don't think any kind of swing voter/impressionable voter are voting early, so I wouldn't say its too late for a momentum shift.

re: #123 MandyManners

Can someone tell me how to find an article about Hellen Jones-Kenney that I posted?

Short answer? Click your avatar, then search through your recent comments.

re: #110 braddock

I wonder if Obama will check pass email too? If so I'm screwed. I will be executed if they check text messages.

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Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775.

No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the House. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received? Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the ...

re: #122 Neo Con since 9-11

Yes, Helen Jones-Kelley donated the maximum to Obama. Then donated an extra $200 separately. Since that second donation was only $200 she didn't need to sign her name to it but for some bizarre reason she did, basically admitting she was committing a violation of federal election law.

Criminal, stupid, and with the power to ruin your life.

re: #135 pingjockey

BTW, it is against the law to lick toads in Australia.

Then I'll wait until I get to New Zealand.

re: #126 astronmr20

Just to quote Drudge:

"ZOGBY SATURDAY: Republican John McCain has pulled back within the margin of error... The three-day average holds steady, but McCain outpolled Obama 48% to 47% in Friday, one day, polling. He is beginning to cut into Obama's lead among independents, is now leading among blue collar voters, has strengthened his lead among investors and among men, and is walloping Obama among NASCAR voters. Joe the Plumber may get his license after all..."

Us reddneck NASCAR volters is intellijent!

/

If McCain gets elected, there need to be NO LET-UP in the investigation into the rampant voter and finance fraud in the Obama campaign.

In the past two elections, the Republicans seemed to "forgive and forget." This time, it may cost them the election. If they are victorious, they need hearings, public humiliation, and jail-time as high-up as possible.

re: #120 jaunte

It's hard to dig out of the pit of dispair when your loins are all girded.

Does Victoria's Secret sell "Loin Girdles", I wonder?

re: #143 Noam Sayin'

re: #135 pingjockey

BTW, it is against the law to lick toads in Australia.

Then I'll wait until I get to New Zealand.

Yeah, those Kiwis know how to party!

re: #109 cjstavern

I thought it was scary when Clinton used the IRS to audit Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick, Monica Lewinsky, The American Spectator, National Review, Bill OReilly, etc... But this takes it to a whole new level. It's pretty sad when I think the best thing to do is keep quiet. Who will they destroy next? If they're willing to go after someone as insignificant as Joe the Plumber they'll go after anybody.

The Clintons got away with that nonsense, mainly because the press refused to make a big deal of it. Think of what Obama would be able to get away with! He has the MSM totally in the tank for him. If they find something dirty they won't even report it.

re: #137 6pat6

It pisses me off to no end. I bet some McCain donors get hammered for it though...

re: #128 Noam Sayin'

I love when you get all poetic justice on us!

Voting twice should be punished by losing one's voting privileges.

re: #138 middlecon

Any links to this fox news poll? I don't see it on the fox news homepage.

I think it would be hilarious if that whiney infomercial turned out to be the real turning point.

Only the 'truly dedicated' are voting early, I don't think any kind of swing voter/impressionable voter are voting early, so I wouldn't say its too late for a momentum shift.

the early voting hasn't been looking good for Obama either. not the huge numbers or huge Dem advantage either

re: #139 Noam Sayin'

Short answer? Click your avatar, then search through your recent comments.

Noam, that's not feasible.

re: #142 Iron Fist

The Messiah will not be mocked.

(Yeah, fuck him and his big ears)

Racist!

re: #142 Iron Fist

And his skinny legs.

re: #82 arethusa

Wait, isn't that over the limit? By about $200?

That's what I thought, too.

re: #145 astronmr20

damn right...R Emmanuel first!

re: #138 middlecon

Any links to this fox news poll? I don't see it on the fox news homepage.

It was orally reported on either Hannity or Gretawire, I forget. Not published yet.

re: #69 JeremyR

I HAD to down ding that one. DO NOT GO GENTLY!

LOL, that was a little dig at MandyManners, whom I, Rancher, love. It's from the first Friday Evening Open thread. I'll take any dings, up or down.

/Attention starved.

re: #143 Noam Sayin'
Mwahaha! Apparently some toads secrete a toxin for defense and it is a hallucenagenic when humans ingest it. Just think, a live source for LSD trips!

re: #135 pingjockey

BTW, it is against the law to lick toads in Australia.

Heh. My pekingese would be under arrest. Here in AZ we've had an outbreak of some kind of poisonous frog in certain areas. She is obsessed with them. Every leaf or rock has to be inspected. To make things worse they are nocturnal which means I don't see them before she does.

The frogs come out at night, the frogs come at niiight...

The youth never materialized for poor Obama.
The AA turnout was already at record levels in 2006 so he really can't get much more out of it. There aren't enough felons to make a difference.

The blue states got bluer. The rest of the country got wiser.

obama is screwed.

FCC Probe Signals Democratic Attack Machine

A Federal Communications Commission investigation of on-air military analysts is providing a glimpse of what Democrats and an Obama administration will do to critics once they capture Washington.

The FCC has sent letters to some of the nation's most prominent military analysts -- some of them pro-President Bush and pro-war -- suggesting they may have broken the law when they appeared on television stations to comment on and explain the war on terrorism.

The FCC investigation raises the question of whether a Democrat-controlled Congress and White House next year will investigate -- and perhaps criminalize -- all sorts of actions taken by the Bush administration. Obama is leading in all presidential polls, while Democrats are set to greatly increase their hold on the House and Senate.

The FCC letters came at the behest of two House Democrats, who say the analysts parroted on air the private briefings they received at the Pentagon. This may have broken the law, the lawmakers said.

/are we having fun yet?

re: #136 hermeneutics

What is so bizarre about Zogby having McCain in the lead is that yesterday he had an Obama +12 day.

He admits his polls are influenced by his sense of "what's going on in the street." I'm betting that may be in play here.

Wonder how many felons, drunk college kids, dead people, multiple voters, kindergarteners, and crooks BHO will have to have voting to win? That's the only way he can do it.

re: #153 MandyManners

Noam, that's not feasible.

Then I'm stumped.

...

Wanna lick my toad?

Sickening, yet they whine about the Patriot Act.

"Do as we say, not as we do."

re: #154 spidly

Racist!

Don't you mean "earist"?

re: #142 Iron Fist

no thanks

re: #105 David IV of Georgia

Ah- I have quite the non-relationship with the girl I love. And I am excited that my first election will be one where I will have the privilege of voting against O.

re: #161 Hard Right

Heh. My pekingese would be under arrest. Here in AZ we've had an outbreak of some kind of poisonous frog in certain areas. She is obsessed with them. Every leaf or rock has to be inspected. To make things worse they are nocturnal which means I don't see them before she does.

The frogs come out at night, the frogs come at niiight...

Hi, Hard Right. Where in AZ do you live? Phoenix area?

re: #145 astronmr20

If McCain gets elected, there need to be NO LET-UP in the investigation into the rampant voter and finance fraud in the Obama campaign.

In the past two elections, the Republicans seemed to "forgive and forget." This time, it may cost them the election. If they are victorious, they need hearings, public humiliation, and jail-time as high-up as possible.

There needs to be major reform - the registration process seems hopelessly corrupted. And what is so wrong with requiring ID to vote? Crazy.

re: #123 MandyManners

Can someone tell me how to find an article about Hellen Jones-Kenney that I posted?

right here

re: #164 arethusa

He admits his polls are influenced by his sense of "what's going on in the street." I'm betting that may be in play here.

Huh, I didn't know that. He was probably caught up in the "army of youth" model of turnout, then.

re: #123 MandyManners

Can someone tell me how to find an article about Hellen Jones-Kenney that I posted?

This it?
[Link: www.swocol.com...]

The reason matches just fine. The Ohio Department of Child Support needs to

you have to read between the lines. He dissed a Dem, he goes down

know whenever someone becomes of figure of public controversy, whether there may be outstanding warrants against him, anything of the sort.

he dissed a dem, he goes down if at all possible

The department does its duty as best it can

it dances with those what brung it

to see to it that the law is administered fairly

advantageously to dems.

re: #88 Typicalwhitey

McCain is going to win it, I can feel it moving thataway lol.

Earlier I read on hillbuzz a person who said she was an obama staffer.
She basically stated that the polls are being stacked, that they are having staffers blog to dispirit McCain supporters and that if the R's go and vote that obama will lose.

I believe this!

*GreatTypicalWhitey*

/gettin' started early :-)

re: #153 MandyManners

Noam, that's not feasible.

I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that...

Let's just say what it is.
ZerObama was schooled, groomed, tutored, assisted and worked alongside radicals with Communist/Socialist/Revolutionary mindset and goals.
This is their method of dealing with anyone that criticizes them.
Use the power of government to put down the individual.
ZerObama (whether he knows it or not) is part of a diabolical plot.
They are liars, criminals, thieves and enemies of the Constitution of The United States of America.

DEAD FUCKING SERIOUS! no sarc!

Power to the Correct People!
(Obama is so incorrect!)

re: #152 spidly

the early voting hasn't been looking good for Obama either. not the huge numbers or huge Dem advantage either

I read last night that in polling Florida, I think it was ABC found that for those who had already voted (note: very small sample size), a clear majority had voted for McCain. I can find a link if you want.

All the public wailing about the abuses that would occur with the Patriot Act was the lefties airing what they would do if they had access to that kind of power.

They always accuse their opponents of what is in their own hearts. They can't help it.

re: #161 Hard Right
Not good. We had a dog get a hold of a toad and it damn near choked to death. The secretions of the toad made the dog foam at the mouth. I have no idea what kind of toad. It was up here in the Northwest.

re: #139 Noam Sayin'

Short answer? Click your avatar, then search through your recent comments.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #48 6pat6

Insult Kim Jong-Il - go to the reeducation camps...

Insult B-HO - go through an anal probe, then off to the reeducation camps.

A B-HO Presidency. Wait til the weasel tries to amend the Constitution to allow himself to be declared POTUS For Life. Hell, he'd probably just issue an Executive Order, once his brown-shirt squads Civilian National Security Force gets organized...

There, fixed that for ya!

re: #160 pingjockey

Mwahaha! Apparently some toads secrete a toxin for defense and it is a hallucenagenic when humans ingest it. Just think, a live source for LSD trips!

A person's gotta be seriously jonsing for a buzz if they'd lick a damned frog just to cop one!

Yikes. I'd puke. But I'd probably think it was pretty while doing so.

re: #180 IslandLibertarian

Let's just say what it is.
ZerObamaHerr Obama was schooled, groomed, tutored, assisted and worked alongside radicals with Communist/Socialist/Revolutionary mindset and goals.
This is their method of dealing with anyone that criticizes them.
Use the power of government to put down the individual.
ZerObama (whether he knows it or not) is part of a diabolical plot.
They are liars, criminals, thieves and enemies of the Constitution of The United States of America.

Fixed that.

re: #163 Killian Bundy

FCC Probe Signals Democratic Attack Machine

/are we having fun yet?

Damn fascists! Who were the two fools who sicced the FCC on the Generals?

Did anyone see Arnold Swartzenegger (sp?) in Ohio with McCain?

re: #185 Macker

No, I had it right the first time.

My mouth is hanging open with this Zogby poll... are you kidding me?!

Of course - national polls mean squat

re: #150 lone_wolf_in_illinois

I love when you get all poetic justice on us!

Stephen Crane, from The Black Riders and Other Lines.

Haven't read it in years, and Charles' open thread for the bitter, selfish redneck gun-clingers reminded me of the third stanza:

In the desert
I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, "Is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter -- bitter," he answered;
"But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."

It seemed halloweenish, so I've been posting stanzas intermittently all night.

re: #189 coquimbojoe

John Dingell of Michigan rears his ugly head again.

re: #190 hermeneutics

Did anyone see Arnold Swartzenegger (sp?) in Ohio with McCain?

It's on youtube.

re: #186 Iron Fist

It is in the State of Tennessee. Election fraud is one of a handful of felony convictions that you can't have your voting rights restored after.

In federal elections, it should be a nationwide felony. Period. No more voting privileges.

re: #174 lone_wolf_in_illinois

Nice one!

re: #106 JeremyR

I was reading his profile, is something missing?

Robert Spencer has for some time been an eloquent and staunch defender of western culture in regards to the onslaught of Islam. He has recently, as Charles has noted, given not overt, but somewhat passive approval—but approval none the less—to some anti-Islamic fascist, white power eugenetic groups in Europe. Charles and most LGF members have zero tolerance for white power fascists, nazis or any other racists. Hopefully Robert Spencer, whose moral compass has been quite good until recently, will realize that he is making a mistake and renounce these ties. Until then Charles and LGF are washing their hand of him.

re: #192 Junior

My mouth is hanging open with this Zogby poll... are you kidding me?!

Of course - national polls mean squat

Yes, but their trendlines usually show some truth.

re: #195 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

It's on youtube.

thanks. I'll look.

re: #181 Max Darkside

I read last night that in polling Florida, I think it was ABC found that for those who had already voted (note: very small sample size), a clear majority had voted for McCain. I can find a link if you want.

Nevada too.

re: #166 Noam Sayin'

Wanna lick my toad?

Keyboard soaked. Cat staring at me like I'm insane.

Just had a Wright G_d Damn America Commercial.

I didn't think we'd have anything here in OR. Maybe the Obama endorsing Merkely for senate is a reason.
I had no intention of voting for that waste of space Smith, but I have to. They had to run an irresponsible loon on the democrat side.

re: #148 wolfie

The Clintons got away with that nonsense, mainly because the press refused to make a big deal of it. Think of what Obama would be able to get away with! He has the MSM totally in the tank for him. If they find something dirty they won't even report it.

Some say CNN is for Clinton News Network, but truth is, its Communist News Network. The further left, the more they like you.

re: #165 6pat6

Wonder how many felons, drunk college kids, dead people, multiple voters, kindergarteners, and crooks BHO will have to have voting to win? That's the only way he can do it.

Here you go !

Convicted rapper T.I. gets to vote despite the rap
Buzz UpSendSharePrint
Fri Oct 31, 6:25 pm ET

ATLANTA (Reuters) – This time last year things were not looking good for Grammy-award winning rapper T.I.
The 28-year-old was facing three federal weapons charges, each of which carried a possible 10-year sentence if convicted and his career appeared to be in ruins.
But things have been looking up for T.I., the Atlanta native who was born Clifford Harris. The court postponed his sentence for a year and said that if he completed 1,000 hours of community service he would receive just one year in jail.
His latest album, Paper Trail, went to No. 1 this month on the U.S. pop chart -- his third number one album in a row.
And this week, to his surprise, he even got to vote.
The multi-platinum selling star, who has spent much of the year talking to young people about the dangers of guns and drugs, has also urged young people to register.
He had assumed his own conviction would prevent him from voting. However, he did some research and found he was in fact eligible.
"Feels like I've taken advantage of my right to become a part of the democracy," he said after casting a ballot in Georgia, a state that allows early voting.
"It was definitely worth standing in line and doing all the things people complain about voting. I think it's more than worth it," he said.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #165 6pat6

Wonder how many felons, drunk college kids, dead people, multiple voters, kindergarteners, and crooks BHO will have to have voting to win? That's the only way he can do it.

Drunk college kids do, after all, have the right to vote, all except those under 18. College kids attending away from home have, if I'm not mistaken, the legal right to declare residency in the state where they study, or in their parents' home state, as they choose. They can't legally register, much less vote, in both states.

Crooks, if their voting rights have not been suspended because of felony conviction statutes in their state---and felony convictions---also have the right to vote.

Dead people have the right to vote, but only if they live in Chicago or South Texas.

...

re: #171 hermeneutics

Hi, Hard Right. Where in AZ do you live? Phoenix area?

The dog lives in the Glendale area. I live elsewhere. She's officially my ex-gf's dog, but the dog adopted me as her daddy. I babysit her at my place sometimes or go to my ex's place when she'll be working for 10 hours or more.

re: #179 Hard Right

I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that...

What are you doing, Dave.

Good night everybody.

Keep the Faith!

re: #198 David IV of Georgia

Robert Spencer has for some time been an eloquent and staunch defender of western culture in regards to the onslaught of Islam. He has recently, as Charles has noted, given not overt, but somewhat passive approval—but approval none the less—to some anti-Islamic fascist, white power eugenetic groups in Europe. Charles and most LGF members have zero tolerance for white power fascists, nazis or any other racists. Hopefully Robert Spencer, whose moral compass has been quite good until recently, will realize that he is making a mistake and renounce these ties. Until then Charles and LGF are washing their hand of him.

Good summation.

Now, go tell the girl that you love her.

Helen Jones-Kelly said the senator from Illinois is just one example of a strong African American male leader.

"We have outstanding African American men – men of color – throughout this country"

My previous link:
[Link: www.swocol.com...]

re: #140 ted

Patrick Henry had BAD MotherF'er on his wallet!

re: #181 Max Darkside

I read last night that in polling Florida, I think it was ABC found that for those who had already voted (note: very small sample size), a clear majority had voted for McCain. I can find a link if you want.

pretty sure I heard that GOP had a slight advantage in early voting in cally-fornya of all places.

re: #153 MandyManners

Noam, that's not feasible.

Check your computer history. If its like mine, there are only a few sites outside of LGF, GOC, BMEWS and the local news.

re: #196 hermeneutics

In federal elections, it should be a nationwide felony. Period. No more voting privileges.

Wrong.

Somehow I get the feeling Joe The Plumber has been violated more than Buford Smith when he was abducted for the night by aliens and taken to the spaceship.

re: #207 Mich-again

...

you trying to get to the previous thread through keyboard commands?

Here's why the Columbus Dispatch's work on this story is important. Ohio went for Bush in 2004. But, Franklin County (Columbus metro area) went for Kerry. See the Ohio county election map for 2004.

[Link: www.uselectionatlas.org...]

They are the red county in the middle (Bush is blue on this map). So, there are some real votes to gain in Franklin county when their major newspaper is reporting on these shennanigans.

re: #214 spidly

pretty sure I heard that GOP had a slight advantage in early voting in cally-fornya of all places.

Out of 210,000, they were down by only 1,000.

Supposedly.

CA will be blue, no doubt, but if that is true, it could be a gauge to how the swing-states will go.

re: #209 Archimedes

What are you doing, Dave.

He's trying to open the pod bay doors, again. Happens almost every Halloween.

re: #183 pingjockey

Not good. We had a dog get a hold of a toad and it damn near choked to death. The secretions of the toad made the dog foam at the mouth. I have no idea what kind of toad. It was up here in the Northwest.

We have same kind here in East Tn I guess...my dog cant help but pick them up in his mouth and then the foaming starts. You would think they would learn, but they dont. lol

re: #175 hermeneutics

I think the youth vote is going to happen this year, and it terrifies me. I've never been on a college campus before for an election, but the peer pressure to vote is amazing, and it's at least 6-1 for Obama. You have Facebook, you have texting, you have all sorts of ways of nagging 20 yr. olds until they vote, and the ones who vote have all sorts of ways of bragging about it.
Honestly, I think higher participation is generally a good thing. This election cycle, though, it might just lead to disaster.

re: #206 lostlakehiker

Drunk college kids do, after all, have the right to vote

True, but with our college campuses laden with liberal flu, and the natural state of most college students being drunk and confused politically, they have always been ripe for the Lefty agitprop. No different this year.

re: #213 braddock

Patrick Henry had BAD MotherF'er on his wallet!

Most people only know the quote, but the speech was kickass!

Remember, Lizards, that Zogby is a THREE DAY tracking poll. So even though McCain won today's poll, it will not show up until the election day. There should be some real movement toward McCain tomorrow.

Wednesday Obama had a HUGE +12 day. It must have been some sort of outlier. That huge number has to work its way out of the three day track before McCain's true polling number emerges.

And, of course, this, too, could be an outlier as much as the +12 Obama ... but I don't think so.

Zogby has had McCain down by 3 to 5 point for more than a week, except for the +12 Obama day.

Amazing amount of variation, huh?

Ahh. Charles, thanks for changing the headline. It was a bit confusing before.

re: #218 spidly

you trying to get to the previous thread through keyboard commands?

All I can say about that is Hey! Wha Happened?

I'm having a ton of fun with OpenSecrets.org, which tells you who gave what to which campaign. Google some really lefty celebrities, like Sarandon (who apparently does not know there are limits to contributions by individuals - the campaigns had to return quite a bit of her money), and you'll get an eyeful.

re: #224 mrosett

That's the story every election. I don't see it being any different this time. Some will vote. But largely, the youth vote doesn't amount for much.

re: #198 David IV of Georgia

Robert Spencer has for some time been an eloquent and staunch defender of western culture in regards to the onslaught of Islam. He has recently, as Charles has noted, given not overt, but somewhat passive approval—but approval none the less—to some anti-Islamic fascist, white power eugenetic groups in Europe. Charles and most LGF members have zero tolerance for white power fascists, nazis or any other racists. Hopefully Robert Spencer, whose moral compass has been quite good until recently, will realize that he is making a mistake and renounce these ties. Until then Charles and LGF are washing their hand of him.

The approval is FAR more than passive at this point.

re: #200 hermeneutics

thanks. I'll look.

LOL, McCain called Biden the gift that keeps on giving.

re: #225 6pat6

I've been keeping a close eye on many of my Professors. Luckily, none of them have shown much of their political ideologies. That's how it should be though. Then again this is my first year.

re: #208 Hard Right

The dog lives in the Glendale area. I live elsewhere. She's officially my ex-gf's dog, but the dog adopted me as her daddy. I babysit her at my place sometimes or go to my ex's place when she'll be working for 10 hours or more.

Carefree here. I had intended to have an election day party but Strep throat ruined it. Maybe we'll all get together after the election ... nic blue. Let me know if you are interested.

re: #175 hermeneutics

Yeah...about those youngsters. Neither I nor a couple of other profs I've talked to in the area have seen the special enthusiasm the kids are supposed to be showing this election cycle.
(Of course, this ain't California, but still...)

re: #225 6pat6

True, but with our college campuses laden with liberal flu, and the natural state of most college students being drunk and confused politically, they have always been ripe for the Lefty agitprop. No different this year.

some were talking of dropping the voting age to 16. how about we raise it to 25 or 30.

never happen but there really should be some requirements. a constitution and world geography quiz...something.

re: #224 mrosett

Please refrain from being an Eeyore tonight. With the Foxnews and Zogby poll numbers, I'm Walking Sunshine.

re: #216 MandyManners

Wrong.

Why do you disagree with the idea of permanently revolking the voting rights of people who commit voter fraud?

re: #203 spidly

Just had a Wright G_d Damn America Commercial.

I didn't think we'd have anything here in OR. Maybe the Obama endorsing Merkely for senate is a reason.
I had no intention of voting for that waste of space Smith, but I have to. They had to run an irresponsible loon on the democrat side.

Just got the same one here in blue state California.

re: #220 astronmr20

Out of 210,000, they were down by only 1,000.
Supposedly.

How is that arrived at? Polling and asking if they have voted already and how they voted? Those aren't actual counts, tho, right, because ballots are not yet opened?

re: #222 Noam Sayin'
Damn silicon based lifeforms. Can't trust any of them.

re: #224 mrosett

The kiddie vote really doen't make much of a difference - it never has. With all the "Rock the Vote" crap, and all of the activities on various colleges; especially in "battleground" states (a tacit statement meaning that the rest of the US does not matter!), the 18 - 25 yo vote has never been a swayer at all.

re: #239 Dark_Falcon

Please refrain from being an Eeyore tonight. With the Foxnews and Zogby poll numbers, I'm Walking on Sunshine.

PIMF

re: #186 Iron Fist

Good ol' Rocky Top!

re: #238 spidly

but there really should be some requirements. a constitution and world geography quiz...something.

I'd be happy with the purple finger rule so no one could vote twice.

re: #238 spidly

Only one problem with the quiz, who would make it? Whoever makes it will have some sort of Bais into what they think Americans should know for such a quiz.

re: #209 Archimedes

What are you doing, Dave.

I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

(sounds like obama)

re: #221 Iron Fist

For fraud? I'd agree with it. OTOH, I am a big proponent of the theory that when you've served your time, you should get your Civil Rights back in most cases. If a person is too dangerous to, say, let them own a gun, then why are you letting them back onto the streets in the first place.

I tend to agree, but voter fraud is one area that I think they should lose the right forever.

re: #158 Max Darkside

It was orally reported on either Hannity or Gretawire, I forget. Not published yet.

Heh, heh... you said 'orally'... heh, heh...

/Beavis mode

Hey all y'all - sorry if I'm "tardy" but I've skimmed the transcript and don't understand two things (at least): a) why is there so much gloom and doom about the possible outcome of the election and
b) I never knew I was in a pit of despair. No really, I never knew that!
I mean, sure I've been down about my cancer and all, but I haven't really felt in "despair". Is that sorta like Jimmy Carter's "Malaisse" - cause I didn't know Americans were suffering from that either when he mentioned it.

I mailed in my absentee ballot from Texas to Tennessee this Monday. What's the spread on my vote making it to Madison County, TN?

re: #233 Charles

The approval is FAR more than passive at this point.

Has it been pointed out to Mr. Spencer the full views of these people, GoV and such? If so, I thought he had more integrity than that.

The end does not justify the means. He's Catholic—he should know that. Kyrie, eleison.

re: #237 wolfie

Yeah...about those youngsters. Neither I nor a couple of other profs I've talked to in the area have seen the special enthusiasm the kids are supposed to be showing this election cycle.
(Of course, this ain't California, but still...)

Yesterday I got a voting card for my daughter who goes to school in CA. My daughter registered to vote in CA and has already voted. If she was dishonest, she could have voted in two states.

We need to do something about this sort of redundancy in registration.

re: #242 Max Darkside

How is that arrived at? Polling and asking if they have voted already and how they voted? Those aren't actual counts, tho, right, because ballots are not yet opened?

It was on Hillbuzz. He's notorious for being a little "over-zealous."

re: #235 Backstaber

I've been keeping a close eye on many of my Professors. Luckily, none of them have shown much of their political ideologies. That's how it should be though. Then again this is my first year.

I wish I could say the same thing about my professors. My Constitutional law professor called Palin ignorant yesterday, and manages to attack McCain at least once a class. Then again, he is angling for a Supreme Court nomination. I'm not sure what my chemistry prof's agenda is though...

re: #230 arethusa

Senator Obama is going to need the extra millions he'll have after Tuesday in order to give back all the "Doodad Pro" and "Loving You" donations. That kind of donations will run into the tens of millions, possibly even a hundred million.

Not to mention the Sarandon-type overages.

re: #252 realwest

Hey all y'all - sorry if I'm "tardy" but I've skimmed the transcript and don't understand two things (at least): a) why is there so much gloom and doom about the possible outcome of the election and
b) I never knew I was in a pit of despair. No really, I never knew that!
I mean, sure I've been down about my cancer and all, but I haven't really felt in "despair". Is that sorta like Jimmy Carter's "Malaisse" - cause I didn't know Americans were suffering from that either when he mentioned it.

Good to see you my friend, same here, not in any gloom or doom and in fact very optimistic about the future, hope you're feeling better.

re: #231 Iron Fist

Um, right now I'd have to say that I'd have to vote for the Republican no matter what. We can't let the Democrats have a filibuster-proof Senate. Not if Obama wins the Presidency, anyway.

yeah, I know, Smith really is a huge piece of monkey dung. and yeah, I'll vote for him

re: #247 Mich-again

I'd be happy with the purple finger rule so no one could vote twice.

Except for Barney the Dinosaur.

He could just vote and vote and vote, and nobody, man, NOBODY would know.

re: #252 realwest

See that's where you're confused. It's dispair. Not despair. Two totally different things.
I guess.

re: #238 spidly

some were talking of dropping the voting age to 16. how about we raise it to 25 or 30.

never happen but there really should be some requirements. a constitution and world geography quiz...something.

Raise the voting age to 25 and lower the drinking age to 18 in exchange.

re: #203 spidly

Just had a Wright G_d Damn America Commercial. I didn't think we'd have anything here in OR.

Hey, I'm a S.N.O.B. too! (Society of Native Oregon Born). Corvallis, Eugene, Salem, Corvallis, Medford/Ashland (I got around).

re: #257 mrosett

I wish I could say the same thing about my professors. My Constitutional law professor called Palin ignorant yesterday, and manages to attack McCain at least once a class. Then again, he is angling for a Supreme Court nomination. I'm not sure what my chemistry prof's agenda is though...

Yeah, wanna guess what my Professors have been doing though? Teaching, and lecturing about the subject that the class is about! A shocker, I know. ;)