Ah, a fresh thread to start our move into the Thanksgiving season.

Hello... Did something happen to all of you?

/I'm scared.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

re: #2 poopeedoo

As long as they come back before Tuesday...

re: #2 poopeedoo

Hello... Did something happen to all of you?

/I'm scared.

The Jews kidnapped me.

/OK, one Jew: my wife, but a B&B in foliage country isn't a bad place to go in the fall...

Thanksgiving season? I love it. Thank you, Lord, for the blessings you have bestowed upon us.

(Please let me add, "and for President McCain, Lord.")

re: #3 poopeedoo

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Oh ummm, sorry, I was distracted... watching Goddessoftheclassroom teach P.E... ;)

Election? Don't you mean "Coronation" Charles?

I am still not convince McCain will lose. Not in the least.

I'm still staying positive and optimistic.
Most of the families that came by last night for TorT said positive things about McCain/Palin (kept signs up). Those I didn't know, must live a few blocks away and they said nothing. One family (with The Zero's signs in their yard) that I dearly love brought relatives' kids. We mainly talked about Meggie and how they missed seeing me walk her.
All the kids love my house, I give out full size candy bars.

The Fourth of November

Remember, remember, this fourth of November,
The radicals’ treasonous plot.
I know of no reason the radicals’ treason
Should e’er be forgiv’n or forgot.

The Sixties were waning, and Leftists were claiming
That radical changes were due.
Their Marxist solution was armed revolution:
The Weathermen made their debut.

The radicals raged on the national stage, and
Horrific explosions ensued.
Their bombs were dramatic, but also erratic;
They sometimes killed radicals, too.

The Leftists grew older, the underground, colder,
And so they came in from the cold.
“Subvert from within – in the long run, we’ll win,” said
The Leftists, determined and bold.

And thus it began – this nefarious plan – and
The radicals slowly took charge:
Complete infiltration of all education;
The long institutional march.

The journalist schools would produce useful fools, for
The Left would need media shills.
And Hollywood, too, would assist in the coup, with
Its slick propagandizing skills.

“Community action” would build a new faction;
’Twould organize proles on the street.
A smooth politician would front for the mission,
And run for the president’s seat.

The radicals’ goal, which they proudly extol, is
A communist U.S. of A.
Collectivist schemes lead to brutal regimes, and
For this do the radicals pray.

But Jefferson’s aim, with the Charters he framed, was
To guard individual rights.
And “redistribution” was not a solution,
But one of the evils to fight.

So let us remember, this fourth of November,
Just what is at stake on this date.
Will Jefferson’s dream, or the radicals’ scheme, now
Determine America’s fate?

If Obama is elected brace yourselves. The media fawning will not end, it will only increase. Just as Jimmy Carter was considered a military and diplomatic genius by the MSM (if only it weren't for that pesky hostage calendar), so will the MSM again praise every decision the Messiah makes. They have too much invested.

re: #10 Winslow

The Fourth of November

Remember, remember, this fourth of November,
The radicals’ treasonous plot.
I know of no reason the radicals’ treason
Should e’er be forgiv’n or forgot.

The Sixties were waning, and Leftists were claiming
That radical changes were due.
Their Marxist solution was armed revolution:
The Weathermen made their debut.

The radicals raged on the national stage, and
Horrific explosions ensued.
Their bombs were dramatic, but also erratic;
They sometimes killed radicals, too.

The Leftists grew older, the underground, colder,
And so they came in from the cold.
“Subvert from within – in the long run, we’ll win,” said
The Leftists, determined and bold.

And thus it began – this nefarious plan – and
The radicals slowly took charge:
Complete infiltration of all education;
The long institutional march.

The journalist schools would produce useful fools, for
The Left would need media shills.
And Hollywood, too, would assist in the coup, with
Its slick propagandizing skills.

“Community action” would build a new faction;
’Twould organize proles on the street.
A smooth politician would front for the mission,
And run for the president’s seat.

The radicals’ goal, which they proudly extol, is
A communist U.S. of A.
Collectivist schemes lead to brutal regimes, and
For this do the radicals pray.

But Jefferson’s aim, with the Charters he framed, was
To guard individual rights.
And “redistribution” was not a solution,
But one of the evils to fight.

So let us remember, this fourth of November,
Just what is at stake on this date.
Will Jefferson’s dream, or the radicals’ scheme, now
Determine America’s fate?

SWEET...........................

Well Lizards,
I shall prognosticate.
I think McCain is going to win.
I'll tell you why.
1. Joe the Plumber
2. The Greek Columns
3. That horrid neverending story, 'Obama's Plan For America' (It reminds me of Communist TV)
4. ACORN
5. The 30 minute propaganda infomercial.

My neck is now stretched on the chopping block of history.

Time will tell what kind of prognosticator I really am eh?

:-)

re: #13 Davida

Well Lizards,
I shall prognosticate.
I think McCain is going to win.
I'll tell you why.
1. Joe the Plumber
2. The Greek Columns
3. That horrid neverending story, 'Obama's Plan For America' (It reminds me of Communist TV)
4. ACORN
5. The 30 minute propaganda infomercial.

My neck is now stretched on the chopping block of history.

Time will tell what kind of prognosticator I really am eh?

:-)

I happen to agree with you.

re: #7 doriangrey

Oh ummm, sorry, I was distracted... watching Goddessoftheclassroom teach P.E... ;)

LOL!

The only "sport" I'm any good at is ping pong. I might break a nail doing anything else...

re: #10 Winslow

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

Thanks.

re: #11 pat

If Obama is elected brace yourselves. The media fawning will not end, it will only increase. Just as Jimmy Carter was considered a military and diplomatic genius by the MSM (if only it weren't for that pesky hostage calendar), so will the MSM again praise every decision the Messiah makes. They have too much invested.

No, there will be no Republicans to blame things on. I think he will be turned on in a second by the MSM and Fox News will be then only one to treat him fairly.

re: #9 newsjunkie_ky

Full size candy bars ~ cool! My kids went to 1 house that handed out full size bars. Another house gave out granola bars ~ what the heck?

Here's my contribution to the final push. I put together a little something regarding Obama's mortgage plan. Just trying to put the economic crisis in layman's terms and convince a few undecideds.

[Link: cadillac-kid.blogspot.com...]

Also:

T'was the Fourth of November
And all through the town
Everybody was voting
Yes, even Dead Man Brown!

re: #13 Davida

+1

This year the holiday days are changed.

Either Halloween or Thanksgiving are going to occur on Nov 4th.

re: #13 Davida

Here, here!

It's the deep breath before the plunge. /gandalf the white

re: #15 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL!

The only "sport" I'm any good at is ping pong. I might break a nail doing anything else...

ROTFLMAO.... That's ok, a man needs a good mental image to keep him warm at night.... ;)

Note: please use the report button if you see anyone posting ugly comments related to Robert Spencer's vicious attack on me this morning. I expect some meltdowns.

0bama's going to lose. "obama socialism" is still one of the top searches at the yahoo election page. He's done.

re: #22 poopeedoo

It's actually "Hear, hear" as in "hear what this incredibly wise person has to say", but we got the message

re: #25 Charles

Aye, aye captain. ;)

re: #27 monkey den

Ah, brain fart. ;)

re: #18 poopeedoo

Full size candy bars ~ cool! My kids went to 1 house that handed out full size bars. Another house gave out granola bars ~ what the heck?

I always do. Almost didn't do Halloween this year (didn't decorate) but two of the neighborhood kids mentioned how they couldn't wait to come to my house for TorT, so I couldn't disappoint them.
Also if The Zero should win, this will be the last year.
Hope those who might vote for him will remember the lady with the McCain/Palin I AM JOE signs gave out the good stuff.

re: #30 newsjunkie_ky

You should have stuck McCain/Palin stickers on those full-size bars!

Believe in the victory!

Be worthy of the victory!

Fight for the victory!

We can do this.

Finally, it's November and I can post this link.

re: #11 pat

You know, I have given this some thought. And I respectfully disagree with you.

I have a feeling that when they are denied their usual whipping boy, they would turn on Obama. Mostly because there will be SO MUCH nasty stuff that would come out after the election. It will be so blatant, and so 'out there' that even they will not be able to let it slide. Oh, and one more thing. If he gets elected, they are NOT going to like his style of not answering questions, and being left out of the loop.

I don't think Obama will get a free ride for more than a month from the MSM.

But let us hope we don't have to find out.

MAn I love living in Royal Oak, Michigan. It's like living in Berkeley, except colder.
I love walking all through town in my McCain-Palin Hat.
Getting dirty looks.

Just returned from Holiday Market and an old moonbat in the checkout says to me " Your man's gonna lose"

I replied, "he might. And if he loses, we all lose"

which got me an " amen" from the closet conservative in line behind me

An Observation. The Obama-Clinton love fest seems anything but. Bill is vapid, Hillary MIA. And Fox reports that Palin can draw 20,000 people on hours notice, Biden's crowds have shrunk to 800, which are mostly Dem Party Volunteers.

re: #31 poopeedoo

You should have stuck McCain/Palin stickers on those full-size bars!

Dagnamit! Wish I had thought of that.

re: #31 poopeedoo

You should have stuck McCain/Palin stickers on those full-size bars!

Hmmm, McCail/Palin bars... 100 percent milk chocolate............. Uh oh.... RACIST.......

Who would stand in line to see Joe Biden?
I would rather watch weeds growing.

Meghan McCain for First Daughter!

re: #33 MandyManners

Finally, it's November and I can post this link.

"And the morning lasted all day"

I love that song (in the original).

Hey, I'm here.

Has anyone seen or read MSM reports about the Bush administration having to get over 500 tons of yellow cake (uranium ore) out of Iraq secretly in order to avoid terrorist attacks or theft, all the while the MSM, Joe Wilson, and the rest on the left have been blasting him about no WMD threat from Saddam? Where's the journalistic integrity? Talk about manipulation of public thiniking.

Here's a link to msnbc running an AP story from July of this year.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

This was posted in the spinoffs but I wanted to be sure you all see it.

Obama to Farmers: Stop Growing Food

I had a dream night before last that woke me up in a cold sweat - that we had massive crop failures - because the seed was tainted by Obama thugs - because Obama wanted complete gov't takeover of the agiculture industry.

I've been watching the eco nazis trying to put farmers out of business via back door legislation (CERCLA/manure mgmt) - and this food miles crap.

This is serious stuff - and I am truly frightened.

Came across this link to an awesome McCain video, from HillBuzz.
Read the brief text - then watch!

And spread it far and wide - there is still time!

re: #38 doriangrey

Hmmm, McCail/Palin bars... 100 percent milk chocolate............. Uh oh.... RACIST.......

No, just unwise. Trick or Treating should be kept free of politics. We are not Dems after all. They may try to brainwash kids, we should not.

Victoria Beckham: Lingerie Model?

Thank you God!

McCain is going to win.

But...
He will not be able to stem the leftist tide alone. We must continue to support him after he's elected. We must work with the moderate Democrats who are couragous enough to cross party lines and vote for McCain. They are working to save our great nation, just as we are.

Thank God for them.

I vow that after McCain wins, I will not become complacent but rather continue to fight against obamunisim until it is no more.

VOTE!

McCain/Palin '08

Zogby's got it margin of error, McCain up one!

re: #34 Davida

Frankly, his style stinks as bad as his plane. He won't answer questions, he is vindictive to the extreme, he is perpetually late but makes the reporters take their seats hours before the plane departs, and he collects personal information and favors to use against reporters and newspapers. I am surprised we haven't seen someone go off key. But the newsroom and the editorial room are with open doors now. And the editorialists are calling the shots.

re: #43 wahabicorridor

This was posted in the spinoffs but I wanted to be sure you all see it.

Obama to Farmers: Stop Growing Food

I had a dream night before last that woke me up in a cold sweat - that we had massive crop failures - because the seed was tainted by Obama thugs - because Obama wanted complete gov't takeover of the agiculture industry.

I've been watching the eco nazis trying to put farmers out of business via back door legislation (CERCLA/manure mgmt) - and this food miles crap.

This is serious stuff - and I am truly frightened.

Be afraid, I am too. But don't despair. Instead, make sure you send this to any undecided voters you know. Tell them the truth, and hope they believe.

re: #41 goddessoftheclassroom

"And the morning lasted all day"

I love that song (in the original).

?

Johnny Mac by 3 points! Will this be the final nail in the Lamestream media coffin? Are they so in the tank that they don't realize that they are dying? How about the pollsters? Will anyone listen to anything they have to say anymore? Oh, Frank Luntz (sp) is a putz.

re: #43 wahabicorridor

This was posted in the spinoffs but I wanted to be sure you all see it.

Obama to Farmers: Stop Growing Food

I had a dream night before last that woke me up in a cold sweat - that we had massive crop failures - because the seed was tainted by Obama thugs - because Obama wanted complete gov't takeover of the agiculture industry.

I've been watching the eco nazis trying to put farmers out of business via back door legislation (CERCLA/manure mgmt) - and this food miles crap.

This is serious stuff - and I am truly frightened.

Obama told Time: “As a consequence, our agriculture sector actually is contributing more greenhouse gases than our transportation sector … and are partly responsible for the explosion in our health care costs because they’re contributing to Type 2 diabetes, stroke and heart disease, obesity, all the things that are driving our huge explosion in health care costs.”

Asshole doesn't understand that people are responsible for the food they put into their mouths.

Talk about cute, Kitten Bill goes to "lick himself" and it's like whoa, what happened here?

/who stole my nuts?

re: #53 Truck Monkey

Johnny Mac by 3 points! Will this be the final nail in the Lamestream media coffin? Are they so in the tank that they don't realize that they are dying? How about the pollsters? Will anyone listen to anything they have to say anymore? Oh, Frank Luntz (sp) is a putz.

JUST MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS OUT TO THE POLLS! You know the Dems will be busing in criminals and the homeless.

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

Victoria Beckham: Lingerie Model?

Thank you God!

My Baby Lizard was David Beckham for Halloween (he plays soccier, so it was an easy cpstume).

I told him he needed to get a girl to go T0Ting with him dressed as Posh Spice. It's probably a good thing he didn't...

re: #13 Davida

Well, I picked the two V-P candidates correctly in the pool our friends won, so I'm trying to make it three and I'll say McCain. So you got another neck with you on the chopping block.

re: #43 wahabicorridor

This was posted in the spinoffs but I wanted to be sure you all see it.

Obama to Farmers: Stop Growing Food

I had a dream night before last that woke me up in a cold sweat - that we had massive crop failures - because the seed was tainted by Obama thugs - because Obama wanted complete gov't takeover of the agiculture industry.

I've been watching the eco nazis trying to put farmers out of business via back door legislation (CERCLA/manure mgmt) - and this food miles crap.

This is serious stuff - and I am truly frightened.

If his buddy Ayers had no qualms about killing 25M Americans and imprisoning another 25M, he would not hesitate to collectivize farms and power companies under the quise of enviromental legislation.

Just posted this message on a thread from yesterday. Since it seems now to be a "dead thread" I am taking the liberty of posting it here again.

Re the LAT's reticence on the mystery video -- Here is a wild guess . . .

It has been widely reported that the keep-it-a-secret item is that Obama said in effect "Down with Israel. Up with Palestine."

But would that change the voting decision of any decisive number of people? I am inclined to doubt it.

Maybe the keep-it-a-secret item is something else entirely -- Something that would rile a lot of voters not much moved by the subject of Israel?

If so, the LAT and the Obamatons have good reason to let the public GO ON THINKING MISTAKENLY that the secret pertains to Israel.

Maybe, then, the real secret is . . . [fill in whatever you think would be the worst one].

re: #25 Charles

just finished reading what he says about you and i don't think he wants to pick a fight only to protect his good name. he is just more open to the Europeans than you (which may or may not be neo-fascists i don't know) and he is not as crazy as Pamela geller has become.

re: #57 goddessoftheclassroom

My Baby Lizard was David Beckham for Halloween (he plays soccier, so it was an easy cpstume).

I told him he needed to get a girl to go T0Ting with him dressed as Posh Spice. It's probably a good thing he didn't...

Yeah, imagine the outfit for that costume!

re: #35 shug

MAn I love living in Royal Oak, Michigan. It's like living in Berkeley, except colder.
I love walking all through town in my McCain-Palin Hat.
Getting dirty looks.

Just returned from Holiday Market and an old moonbat in the checkout says to me " Your man's gonna lose"

I replied, "he might. And if he loses, we all lose"

which got me an " amen" from the closet conservative in line behind me

I'm over in Sterling Heights, and there seems to be a dearth of Obama signs here. Last night, I even had some older kids comment in a positive way on my McCain/Palin lawn sign. Color me shocked!

re: #52 MandyManners

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

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I don't like the Sugarland cover of it as well.

Pat # 50
"But the newsroom and the editorial room are with open doors now. And the editorialists are calling the shots."

Well, there's that, I'll grant you.....

Sigh.

re: #54 MandyManners

Hey Mandy!

that 'greenhouse gas from the ag sector' line? Supposedly that comes from cows - both beef and dairy. The push is on to not eat meat - it's already started in the UK. Milk? Well, that can be replaced by soy.

I'm not joking.

re: #42 sprocket

Hey, I'm here.

Has anyone seen or read MSM reports about the Bush administration having to get over 500 tons of yellow cake (uranium ore) out of Iraq secretly in order to avoid terrorist attacks or theft, all the while the MSM, Joe Wilson, and the rest on the left have been blasting him about no WMD threat from Saddam? Where's the journalistic integrity? Talk about manipulation of public thiniking.

Here's a link to msnbc running an AP story from July of this year.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

A reminder of who has kept us safe for these last 7 years and who will KEEP us safe for the next 16--McCain/Palin

re: #54 MandyManners

Obama told Time: “As a consequence, our agriculture sector actually is contributing more greenhouse gases than our transportation sector … and are partly responsible for the explosion in our health care costs because they’re contributing to Type 2 diabetes, stroke and heart disease, obesity, all the things that are driving our huge explosion in health care costs.”

Asshole doesn't understand that people are responsible for the food they put into their mouths.

That one is totally out of his mind! The output of the agricultural sector, if eaten fresh, is the healthiest thing for us. It is the processing and sweetening and frying and otherwise adulterating the food, plus excessive consumption with insufficient exercise, that causes health probels. Is he really that stupid?

I suspect not, but that it is all part of jhis Marxist playbook to attack the agricultural sector, and other sectors.

re: #61 avirus

You should do so background reading, because they most certainly are fascists.

re: #58 arethusa

Thanks!
I appreciate the company while we wait....

re: #69 Sharmuta

I mean some background reading. Sorry.

re: #53 Truck Monkey

I agree. I'm glad they didn't break until after Joe came along, but I would like to know who these intellectual degenerates are who haven't decided who they're voting for yet. If one sees only subtleties between the two, and hasn't picked a candidate, they should take John Stossel's advice.

John McCain wins the election on Tuesday.

I guarantee it.

_{If I lose I will buy anyone who disagrees, and responds to this post in the next 30 minutes, a beer.}

re: #47 jamsler

McCain is going to win.

But...
He will not be able to stem the leftist tide alone. We must continue to support him after he's elected. We must work with the moderate Democrats who are couragous enough to cross party lines and vote for McCain. They are working to save our great nation, just as we are.

Thank God for them.

I vow that after McCain wins, I will not become complacent but rather continue to fight against obamunisim until it is no more.

VOTE!

McCain/Palin '08

Once we get McCain elected unofotuntely its gonna be hard to keep him from being "Bi-Partisan" (acting like a Lib).
I'm worried that He's gonna put some Libs in the Cabinet, and try to make nicy nice with the media and we all know what that means.

re: #55 Killian Bundy

Talk about cute, Kitten Bill goes to "lick himself" and it's like whoa, what happened here?

/who stole my nuts?

I'd not go naked around him for a little while. Payback could be a real bitch.

re: #61 avirus

just finished reading what he says about you and i don't think he wants to pick a fight only to protect his good name. he is just more open to the Europeans than you (which may or may not be neo-fascists i don't know) and he is not as crazy as Pamela geller has become.

If he is comfortable with fascists, he has no good name to protect. That said, while your post is not out of bounds, I'd advise against pursuing this topic further. Charles has already made up his mind, argument will only anger him. It's his blog, he has the right to decide who is welcome to post on it.

re: #43 wahabicorridor

This was posted in the spinoffs but I wanted to be sure you all see it.

Obama to Farmers: Stop Growing Food

I had a dream night before last that woke me up in a cold sweat - that we had massive crop failures - because the seed was tainted by Obama thugs - because Obama wanted complete gov't takeover of the agiculture industry.

I've been watching the eco nazis trying to put farmers out of business via back door legislation (CERCLA/manure mgmt) - and this food miles crap.

This is serious stuff - and I am truly frightened.

The Zero is truly an idiot!

re: #64 goddessoftheclassroom

Who did it originally?

The Left was shocked at the $150,000 for Palin's clothes. How about this:

Obama spent nearly $700,000 for stage, lights in Berlin

Is it legal to spend campaign money in a foreign country?

re: #73 Racer X

John McCain wins the election on Tuesday.

I guarantee it.

_{If I lose I will buy anyone who disagrees, and responds to this post in the next 30 minutes, a beer.}

If you lose I am going to seriously need that beer.... ;)

re: #78 MandyManners

Who did it originally?

The Dream Academy, to whose video you posted. The new version is "country," and I hate it.

re: #66 wahabicorridor

Hey Mandy!

that 'greenhouse gas from the ag sector' line? Supposedly that comes from cows - both beef and dairy. The push is on to not eat meat - it's already started in the UK. Milk? Well, that can be replaced by soy.

I'm not joking.

Mebbe I need to get a dairy cow.

re: #59 pat

he would not hesitate to collectivize farms and power companies under the quise of enviromental legislation.

Before they do anything w/agriculture or power companies, there is one resource they absolutely MUST control.

Water. And states have been fighting over water rights for awhile now (see Nevada, Arizona, Calif). The largest water user in Calif is the ag sector.

Just keep your eyes very wide open.

re: #73 Racer X

Ha, ha, "fine print".

re: #75 MandyManners

I'd not go naked around him for a little while. Payback could be a real bitch.

WHACK........... that's just plain mean Mandy..... ;p

re: #68 Shay4l

That one is totally out of his mind! The output of the agricultural sector, if eaten fresh, is the healthiest thing for us. It is the processing and sweetening and frying and otherwise adulterating the food, plus excessive consumption with insufficient exercise, that causes health probels. Is he really that stupid?

I suspect not, but that it is all part of jhis Marxist playbook to attack the agricultural sector, and other sectors.

The one thing they can't make any more of is land. Is he thinking of a land grab?

re: #42 sprocket

Hey, I'm here.

Has anyone seen or read MSM reports about the Bush administration having to get over 500 tons of yellow cake (uranium ore) out of Iraq secretly in order to avoid terrorist attacks or theft, all the while the MSM, Joe Wilson, and the rest on the left have been blasting him about no WMD threat from Saddam? Where's the journalistic integrity? Talk about manipulation of public thiniking.

Here's a link to msnbc running an AP story from July of this year.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Very interesting! I wonder how many of us missed this?

re: #85 doriangrey

WHACK........... that's just plain mean Mandy..... ;p

Well, so is cutting off a cat's nuts.

re: #86 MandyManners

The one thing they can't make any more of is land. Is he thinking of a land grab?

I suspect when we find out what he's really after, we'll hate it.

AP poll shows Obama backers gleeful, McCain's glum

This is exactly what the msm and obamabot astroturfing BS has been working towards. Don't buy into their BS, folks. VOTE!

re: #81 goddessoftheclassroom

The Dream Academy, to whose video you posted. The new version is "country," and I hate it.

Someone put it to country music? Egads.

re: #79 solomonpanting

The Left was shocked at the $150,000 for Palin's clothes. How about this:

Obama spent nearly $700,000 for stage, lights in Berlin

Is it legal to spend campaign money in a foreign country?

Jist spreading the wealth.

Back later- I'm going to go sell my robert spencer books.

re: #83 wahabicorridor

Before they do anything w/agriculture or power companies, there is one resource they absolutely MUST control.

Water. And states have been fighting over water rights for awhile now (see Nevada, Arizona, Calif). The largest water user in Calif is the ag sector.

Just keep your eyes very wide open.

It'd be pretty stupid to fuck with folks who own pitchforks and guns.

re: #90 Sharmuta

Yep. That is a push story. Totally.

re: #79 solomonpanting

The Left was shocked at the $150,000 for Palin's clothes. How about this:

Obama spent nearly $700,000 for stage, lights in Berlin

Is it legal to spend campaign money in a foreign country?

That's chump change.

/Final bill on the Barackopolis: $5.3 million, but don't worry, with the help of Pelosi and Reid, spending couldn't possibly get even more out of control than it already is

re: #89 Shay4l

I suspect when we find out what he's really after, we'll hate it.

Well, he ain't gonna' win.

re: #93 Sharmuta

Back later- I'm going to go sell my robert spencer books.

Who'd want to buy those now? Bury them instead.

re: #79 solomonpanting

The Left was shocked at the $150,000 for Palin's clothes. How about this:

Obama spent nearly $700,000 for stage, lights in Berlin

Is it legal to spend campaign money in a foreign country?

Silly you - this is a NON-issue... he had to have lights and a stage to showcase his magnificence.

re: #44 yma o hyd

Came across this link to an awesome McCain video, from HillBuzz.
Read the brief text - then watch!

And spread it far and wide - there is still time!

Thank you, sending it to list. I started crying.

re: #13 Davida

You could be right.

All of your points are good.

Don't discount the military vote. It could be the deciding factor.

How about a Palestinian blooper to cheer y'all up?
Man drops firebomb as he prepares to throw it

The Israel Defense Forces and Border Police successfully thwarted an attempt by an Arab terrorist to attack the Jewish community of Yitzhar in Samaria, and shot the terrorist dead. An IDF lookout identified the terrorist early Saturday morning as he made his way from the village of Asira al-Kabaliya toward the town.

Woof!

re: #79 solomonpanting

The Left was shocked at the $150,000 for Palin's clothes. How about this:

Obama spent nearly $700,000 for stage, lights in Berlin

Is it legal to spend campaign money in a foreign country?

Don't worry, he probably got it all back in untraceable donations from foreign nationals, via his website.

re: #73 Racer X

John McCain wins the election on Tuesday.

I guarantee it.

_{If I lose I will buy anyone who disagrees, and responds to this post in the next 30 minutes, a beer.}

I dropped $2500 bucks on a McCain win at Intrade yesterday. Yes.... I am THAT confident. I just don't see America installing a tax raising socialist as POTUS, especially with the congress we are strapped with right now.

re: #18 poopeedoo

Full size candy bars ~ cool! My kids went to 1 house that handed out
full size bars. Another house gave out granola bars ~ what the heck?

I once got packets of Chinese take-out soy sauce.

re: #93 Sharmuta

Back later- I'm going to go sell my robert spencer books.

Maybe you should just burn them if they are in such bad taste?

re: #99 summergurl

Silly you - this is a NON-issue... he had to have lights and a stage to showcase his magnificence.

Should've just taken off his pants 'cause we all know sunshine just flows outta' his butt.

Pure evil on every level.

re: #90 Sharmuta

NOT! Go McCain/Palin! Woo-hoo!

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

Victoria Beckham: Lingerie Model?

Thank you God!

That ain't nothin'.

THIS is somethin'.

re: #96 Killian Bundy

That's chump change.

/Final bill on the Barackopolis: $5.3 million, but don't worry, with the help of Pelosi and Reid, spending couldn't possibly get even more out of control than it already is

If I was the companies owed this money, I would try to get it before Tuesday. When Mac wins, BO's funds will somehow be spread around to folks we can't track ... the regular working people won't see it.

Is there a source that has kept track of Obama's fart-in-the-wind changes to his website? Is there a source that will keep his publicly made promises for future reference, safe from historical revision by Obama and his disciples?

This promise is sure to be forgotten (not to mention remain unfulfilled):
Secure loose nuclear materials from terrorists: Obama and Biden will secure all loose nuclear materials in the world within four years, and will negotiate a verifiable global ban on the production of new nuclear weapons material to curb the spread of nuclear weapons.

re: #97 MandyManners

Well, he ain't gonna' win.

I've felt that way for quite a while. People at work bring up the polls, and I ask them, "Do you believe those polls?" with an astonished voice. They become rather quiet at the implication.

From commenter TedInATL over at Hot Air:

When it comes to the economy, Obama can see the Soviet Union from his house.

re: #105 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I once got packets of Chinese take-out soy sauce.

Thanks for the great laugh!

re: #107 MandyManners

Should've just taken off his pants 'cause we all know sunshine just flows outta' his butt.

Obama's ass could solve our energy crisis.

re: #84 monkey den

Ha, ha, "fine print".

_{Offer not available in San Francisco, Berkley, Vermont, New York, Dearborn, Connecticut, Portland, Seattle, Hollywood, Maine or Illinois. Recipient must be of legal age and request a good beer - none of that watered down rice beer. Recipient must make their own arrangements for transportation to and from said beer enjoyment event. Not responsible for loss of equilibrium or previous nourishment. Subject to local restrictions.}

re: #86 MandyManners

Indirectly, yes. They'll go after the 'industrial ag producers' like Hormel, Tysons, Purdue, etc., with onerous taxes and legislation (I'm serious about the manure mgmt/clean air/clean water issue - the fines they want for infractions would put anyone out of business) Then, when it's bailout time - voila! The gov't now owns your ass.

Now many independent producers are contracted to these industrial producers to sell their product to them. They will now be contracted to sell to the gov't -

This evening's nightmares are going to be doozies.

re: #107 MandyManners

I chuckled

re: #104 Truck Monkey

I dropped $2500 bucks on a McCain win at Intrade yesterday. Yes.... I am THAT confident. I just don't see America installing a tax raising socialist as POTUS, especially with the congress we are strapped with right now.

If you show a profit Monday, sell it.

/first rule of options trading, don't be caught dead with contracts on expiration day

re: #90 Sharmuta

AP poll shows Obama backers gleeful, McCain's glum

This is exactly what the msm and obamabot astroturfing BS has been working towards. Don't buy into their BS, folks. VOTE!

Obama supporters won't know what hit them on Tuesday. If the MSM is having trouble now, I can't wait for the Dem voting population to turn on them for their BS during this election. That will seal their fate.

Lizard Prayer List 11/01/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Thanksgivings
Dolphin: friend Stan. He had several compliations and infections (open heart surgery) but is now well on his way to recovery.
Pigtown Water Dog: "work project" and my animals.
Wolfie: nephew (USAR-spec ops) got home from Iraq a couple of months ago safe and sound, and he and his wife are expecting their second child.
turn: basal cell carcinoma (cancer) completely removed
eschew_obfuscation: family’s health and happiness
realwest: recovered from dental issues
vxhush: husband recovering well from rotator cuff surgery
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke, practically fully recovered
Loppyd: future plans

Health issues:
Lizard’s grandson Griffin (and his parents) open-heart surgery and recovery
Knitwit: niece Elizabeth has a nasty MRSA infection after orthopedic surgery
tfc3rid: gf's 89 year old grandmother (suffered a a large stroke and is in rehab) and her uncle who is suffering from throat cancer; And continued prayers for dad who has MS
Steve C: Baby Katie’s heart surgery
Typicalwhitey: father’s undergoing tests for pancreatic cancer
MNsnowlizard: Had open heart surgery in February (35 years old) and could be facing another one
twincitiesgirl: husband fighting cancer
Cato the elder: health issues
doriangrey: friend Byran's brother be life flighted back to the US and that his life be saved
mikeymom: sister undergoing tests for some problems
RememberSekhmet: moderate depression; burned out at my job and looking for a new one
Josephine: daughter diagnosed with rare, chronic illness
yma o hyd: dear friend Anne has a blood disorder
jamsler: sister, just diagnosed with thyroid cancer; father, getting biopsy of a possible malignancy in his throat.
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
Dublic(CA)Dude - serious health issues
gop_patriot: friend’s 8-year-old son starting chemo
Pingjockey: friend Bob with a carcinoma, recovering from surgery
LeePro: major oral surgery in July
A Lizard who underwent surgery Monday, 8/17/08
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: metastasizing cancer; mom Type II diabetes
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: waiting for results of tests for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father back in the hospital
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; facing another surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
/cont'd

Lizard Prayer List, cont'd
Family, friend, and life situations:
MandyManners: finding answers and solutions
USMC1968’s family and friends: his passing
neocon hippie: grieving for big black kitty, Ripple
Cast Iron Magnolia: nephew, David, who's a Marine serving in Iraq
HHC 2-2 SCR: for those we lost and their family and friends and for thanks for those that are finally back and one for the safety of those still waiting to return.
lightsout: to make a wise decision
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey: strength to overcome a personal issue, and for wisdom in discerning another one
Newsjunkie: loss of her dog
Flynmudd: son deployed to Middle East
x-wing: son diagnosed with Ausberger’s (mild autism)
HoosierHoops: 3/5th Marines deploying to Afghanistan in January (son Jordan is a platoon leader)
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: new 7-month-old foster daughter; best result for another foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Our country facing financial challenges & the election
Georgia/Ossetia
Those dealing with the hurricanes
Gilad Schalit, for his release.
The contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

re: #102 Killgore Trout

How about a Palestinian blooper to cheer y'all up?
Man drops firebomb as he prepares to throw it

Woof!

How do you make a terrorist sound like a dog?

re: #122 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks for posting these, Goddess. Blessings to you as well!

re: #10 Winslow

Excellent! Just emailed that to everybody! If a hundred updings were possible, you'd get them from me!

re: #17 AndyMacOP

No, there will be no Republicans to blame things on...

Trust me, the Dems will blame any and all problems on George W. Bush for AT LEAST 8 years. If Obama is elected, he has no accountability at all, because all success will be due to his genius and all failures will be due to George W. Bush. Guaranteed.

BBIAM

Oh shoot, where'd I put my driver's license?

Nudists in Florida Fight to Vote Naked

re: #74 Luco-Brazzi

It won't be easy. It won't be quick. It took a while to get this screwed up and it's going to take a while to fix. A McCain win is only the beginning. We have to remember these terrifying portents of what a obamunist victory would mean and vote all progressives out.
Vote them all out!

re: #10 Winslow

Thank you!

re: #110 stuiec

That ain't nothin'.

THIS is somethin'.

That's a whole lotta "meh." Posh is too phony & Maggie is too homely.

re: #91 MandyManners

Someone put it to country music? Egads.

Well I prefer the Johnny Cash cover of "Personal Jesus" to the Depeche Mode original.

And I generally don't like country music.

re: #129 Gearhead

Oh shoot, where'd I put my driver's license?

Nudists in Florida Fight to Vote Naked

If you have to ask..........

re: #102 Killgore Trout

How about a Palestinian blooper to cheer y'all up?
Man drops firebomb as he prepares to throw it

Woof!

Darwin Akbar!

re: #124 jcm

What's that smell?

re: #134 jcm

If you have to ask..........

Gives new meaning to the phrase "Pulled it out of my ass".

re: #133 The Other Les

Well I prefer the Johnny Cash cover of "Personal Jesus" to the Depeche Mode original.

And I generally don't like country music.

I like all music. Johnny Cashs version of "Hurt" is excellent too.

re: #136 shiek al beif salami

What's that smell?

Achmed calls home....

Honey can you come pick me up...
I'm done!

re: #10 Winslow

This can be sung to the tune of "Try to Remember" from The Fantastiks. Nicely worded, Winslow.

re: #129 Gearhead

Oh shoot, where'd I put my driver's license?

Nudists in Florida Fight to Vote Naked

Oh, its just a mild form of the superior being syndrome.

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Gives new meaning to the phrase "Pulled it out of my ass".

That'll limit repeat voters.

Voter suppression does not always work like the media and politicians think. An analysis of 2000 Florida showed that it was the Fox declaration that Bush won that stopped people in the panhandle from voting, not the polls by NBC and CBS showing Gore ahead. People did not vote because they thought they had already won. The MSMs anger at Fox for the early call was entirely misdirected.

re: #138 Truck Monkey

I like all music. Johnny Cashs version of "Hurt" is excellent too.

All of American IV is awesome. His "Bridge Over Troubled Water" is so moving.

re: #112 el_raton

This promise is sure to be forgotten (not to mention remain unfulfilled): Secure loose nuclear materials from terrorists: Obama and Biden will secure all loose nuclear materials in the world within four years, and will negotiate a verifiable global ban on the production of new nuclear weapons material to curb the spread of nuclear weapons.

First we'd better clean up our own act, regarding security of our nukes. Note that the Air Force didn't find out about this underground fire in one of their nuke silos until 5 days later:

[Link: www.military.com...]

Geez, first the B52 nuke security "error" in 2007, and now this. What's the public supposed to think about Air Force security?

Standard Air Force Security PR message: "Rest easy, folks, we're always right on top of incidents like this, at least within a week or two. Nothing can ever go wrong, -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong -- go wrong (bleep)."
.

re: #141 The Other Les

Oh, its just a mild form of the superior being syndrome.

And I was worried about long lines...

re: #144 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

All of American IV is awesome. His "Bridge Over Troubled Water" is so moving.

agreed. Oh... Johnny Mac by 3 points. If I keep saying it it will come to pass.

re: #42 sprocket

Hey, I'm here.

Has anyone seen or read MSM reports about the Bush administration having to get over 500 tons of yellow cake (uranium ore) out of Iraq secretly in order to avoid terrorist attacks or theft, all the while the MSM, Joe Wilson, and the rest on the left have been blasting him about no WMD threat from Saddam? Where's the journalistic integrity? Talk about manipulation of public thiniking.

Here's a link to msnbc running an AP story from July of this year.
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

IBD had the story in July - my leftie friends questioned the timing and why it wasn't in the MSM. Morons.

What can you say. This story bummed me out. Man rolls 300, then dies. Condolences to the family and friends.

I wonder how long till some crappy TV sitcom uses this story for an idea.

Hi Lizards! Sure missed y'all while I took a trip down to visit purple VA, and some of its GOP volunteer headquarters.....

Spent my first night home on Halloween, standing out on my porch surrounded by my NJ neighbors, all of us giving out treats to the kids. Now here's what was interesting... we haven't done much political chatting with these acquaintances, because we know that every single year, they have had Democrat election posters and voted as middle and upper middle class moderate (i.e., not far-left) Dems.

But a few minutes into our TorT get-together, someone mentioned Tito the Builder, and I was shocked and thrilled to learn that none of them, not one, would be voting for Barack Obama. Some are Hillary supporters furious that the nomination was stolen from a more centrist Democrat, some were disgusted that their party is being hijacked by a cabal of sixties radicals trying for a coup with an empty suit candidate with NO achievements. But they ALL knew every detail of the Obama scandals, from fundraising to Annenberg to his shuttered past.

And all my very blue NJ neighbors discovered this how? By becoming faithful Fox news fans from August through November. SO, I'm wondering how this all fits in with the polls - but it was a VERY pleasant 'welcome home'

=)

re: #132 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's a whole lotta "meh." Posh is too phony & Maggie is too homely.

Not to mention Maggie is a moonbat of the worst order.

re: #150 runrabbitrun

There is hope for the Republic yet.

re: #105 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I once got packets of Chinese take-out soy sauce.

Damn, I could have unloaded about 50 packs of Taco Bell hot sauce. Remind me next year BEFORE Halloween, please! : )

re: #144 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

All of American IV is awesome. His "Bridge Over Troubled Water" is so moving.

The day Johnny Cash died the local alternative rock radio station played "Hurt" from that album in his honor. I never cared for the NiN version. But Johnny's rendition just blew me away. Went out and bought the album that day, 1st and only Johnny Cash album. And it really is great from beginning to end.

re: #73 Racer X

I think I got in the thirty minute window. I disagree.

And I love Magic Hat #9, in case you're curious. :)

...

re: #148 debutaunt

IBD had the story in July - my leftie friends questioned the timing and why it wasn't in the MSM. Morons.

I nailed my lefty friends on the subject of WMD.
Saddam used WMD against Iran and the Kurds.
At the end of GWI he declared stockpiles.
Everyone from Clinton to the French said he had them.
We found odds and ends, a few stray shells here and there. You don't make on chemical shell you make lots.

Saddam had them, used them, declared them, all the evidence says he had them.
Granted we didn't find them.
So.....
Where are they?

Leaves 'em floundering every time.

This is a lovely video of pumas - as a Thank-You to the PUMAs, by Native Americans Against Obama ...

re: #156 shiek al beif salami

Old man beats up young man...

Yet another tasteless, gratuitous link. . .

Link fixed now.

re: #10 Winslow

The young and the feckless getting support from the Viagra/Vagifem radicals.

The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama will refund a small number of contributions made by Obama's aunt,

The woman, Zeituni Onyango, lives in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.
The Associated Press reported today that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya.
Obama campaign reports filed with the Federal Election Commission show Onyango gave $265 to the campaign. Foreign nationals are not permitted to donate to American presidential campaigns.
"Given the information that has been brought to our attention, the contributions are being refunded," Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman, told The Washington Post this morning.

re: #161 wahabicorridor

The campaign of Sen. Barack Obama will refund a small number of contributions made by Obama's aunt,

My brothers keeper..........

re: #154 Mich-again

The day Johnny Cash died the local alternative rock radio station played "Hurt"
from that album in his honor. I never cared for the NiN version. But
Johnny's rendition just blew me away. Went out and bought the album
that day, 1st and only Johnny Cash album. And it really is great from
beginning to end.

I first heard it when I went out to dinner at a country-themed steakhouse. I recall thinking, "this is a great album, but now I'm as depressed as hell & don't want to stay for dessert."

re: #161 wahabicorridor

The wheels are coming off the bus.

re: #149 Mich-again

What can you say. This story bummed me out. Man rolls 300, then dies. Condolences to the family and friends.

I wonder how long till some crappy TV sitcom uses this story for an idea.

Why would that bum you out? The man died at the ultimate peak.

Now, if he'd died two frames short of a perfect game, that would be horrible.

re: #155 Jamie

I think I got in the thirty minute window. I disagree.

And I love Magic Hat #9, in case you're curious. :)

What I was drinking when the Phillies won the World Series. Will never forget how that tasted! :)

re: #162 jcm

Given the photo I've seen of the woman (Times of London, I think) Obama should start taking some food away from her - obesity, diabetes2, all that. Plus it would reduce her carbon footprint.

Should The Obama get elected the press will turn on him quickly because the press thinks The Obama owes them the election and The Obama will not give them the time of day. And then the temper tantrums will begin.

Howeer, being "selfish" I hope McCain will pull this off.

re: #25 Charles

Note: please use the report button if you see anyone posting ugly comments related to Robert Spencer's vicious attack on me this morning. I expect some meltdowns.

That whole Spencer episode is extremely disappointing. I wonder if that unholy crowd of Spencer, Gates of Vienna, Fjordman, etc. knows how unacceptable it is to throw one's lot in with neo-fascists, even if they share some common ideals.

re: #132 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

That's a whole lotta "meh." Posh is too phony & Maggie is too homely.

I can think of a lot of words for Maggie Gyllenhaal, but "homely" is not one of them.

But to each according to his own tastes.

re: #166 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What I was drinking when the Phillies won the World Series. Will never forget how that tasted! :)

Great beer. Vermont-based, though, so it's really the province of us Sox fans. :-P

re: #167 wahabicorridor

Given the photo I've seen of the woman (Times of London, I think) Obama should start taking some food away from her - obesity, diabetes2, all that. Plus it would reduce her carbon footprint.

I loved that in BHO 30 whine fest, the family in tough times......
All extra large.

re: #50 pat

Just look at how quickly the msm turned on the Clintons and Mac.They aren't happy unless they're eating their own. Sit back and enjoy the sport, whether it wins or loses. Personally I feel a BIG fall coming on.

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Darwin Akbar!

hahahahhahahahahaa

re: #173 vagabond trader

Just look at how quickly the msm turned on the Clintons and Mac.They aren't happy unless they're eating their own. Sit back and enjoy the sport, whether it wins or loses. Personally I feel a BIG fall coming on.

They will not turn on Obama so long as they feel they have to defend him from "vicious partisan attacks that border on disloyalty." They never really turned on Clinton.

re: #173 vagabond trader

Just look at how quickly the msm turned on the Clintons and Mac.They aren't happy unless they're eating their own. Sit back and enjoy the sport, whether it wins or loses. Personally I feel a BIG fall coming on.

I agree. The Bush blaming would run for less than 18 months, then they would turn on the Golden Child like rabid weasels.

re: #175 stuiec

They never turned on Clinton, are you serious?

re: #171 Jamie

Great beer. Vermont-based, though, so it's really the province of us Sox fans. :-P

Vermont, eh?

re: #157 jcm

I nailed my lefty friends on the subject of WMD.
Saddam used WMD against Iran and the Kurds.
At the end of GWI he declared stockpiles.
Everyone from Clinton to the French said he had them.
We found odds and ends, a few stray shells here and there. You don't make on chemical shell you make lots.

Saddam had them, used them, declared them, all the evidence says he had them.
Granted we didn't find them.
So.....
Where are they?

Leaves 'em floundering every time.

I also sent the video from CNN showing Clinton talking about the WMD in Iraq. Lefties are left speechless by that.

Everyone seems to be salivating at the thought of a McCain win; let's just step back a minute and remember that he's a democrat (think Scoop Jackson - Daniel Patrick Moynihan.) Just some perspective....

re: #169 Jamie

That whole Spencer episode is extremely disappointing. I wonder if that unholy crowd of Spencer, Gates of Vienna, Fjordman, etc. knows how unacceptable it is to throw one's lot in with neo-fascists, even if they share some common ideals.

If what Spencer wrote is true, Geert Wilders is now hooking up with the Vlaams Belang too, which is a severe disappointment. I believed he was trying to stay away from those associations.

Of the public anti-jihad figures, that leaves Ayaan Hirsi Ali as the only one who hasn't given in to paranoia and populist fascism.

re: #180 dave in NC

Everyone seems to be salivating at the thought of a McCain win; let's just step back a minute and remember that he's a democrat (think Scoop Jackson - Daniel Patrick Moynihan.) Just some perspective....

McCain was dead last on list in the early (R) primary.

I'm not voting for McCain, as against The Marxist One.

With McCain we can hold the line for 4 years. With The Marxist One, we'll look back at Carter with fondness.

re: #129 Gearhead

Oh oh, that's in my sis in law's neck of the nekkid woods. For all her monnbatty lifestyle she is voting for McCain Palin.

re: #180 dave in NC

Everyone seems to be salivating at the thought of a McCain win; let's just step back a minute and remember that he's a democrat (think Scoop Jackson - Daniel Patrick Moynihan.) Just some perspective....

I'm not salivating, I'm wiping the flop-sweat off my brow.

McCain ain't perfect. Not even close.

But I'd trust him to teach American history to my kid.

Obadin? Not so much.

re: #184 razorbacker

I'm not salivating, I'm wiping the flop-sweat off my brow.

McCain ain't perfect. Not even close.

But I'd trust him to teach American history to my kid.

Obadin? Not so much.

In a crisis I trust McCain to do the right thing for America.

In a crisis I trust Obama to vote present.

re: #35 shug

MAn I love living in Royal Oak, Michigan. It's like living in Berkeley, except colder.
I love walking all through town in my McCain-Palin Hat.
Getting dirty looks.

Just returned from Holiday Market and an old moonbat in the checkout says to me " Your man's gonna lose"

I replied, "he might. And if he loses, we all lose"

which got me an " amen" from the closet conservative in line behind me

hey hey there, I lived in RO for a couple of years and shopped at the holiday market. lots of goth and tattoos in the downtown area, but overall one of the better places to live in the metro area. I've since moved on to chicagoland.

re: #181 Charles

If what Spencer wrote is true, Geert Wilders is now hooking up with the Vlaams Belang too, which is a severe disappointment. I believed he was trying to stay away from those associations.

Of the public anti-jihad figures, that leaves Ayaan Hirsi Ali as the only one who hasn't given in to paranoia and populist fascism.

I want to believe they mean well, given the threat that Iran, et al. represent. But I dunno about the rest of your Jewish readers, but jumping in with the Vlaams Belang is at least as much of a dog whistle for me as when the far left starts going on about "neocons."

re: #180 dave in NC

Everyone seems to be salivating at the thought of a McCain win; let's just step back a minute and remember that he's a democrat (think Scoop Jackson - Daniel Patrick Moynihan.) Just some perspective....

how about considering that BHO is the alternative to McCain? how's that for some perspective.

re: #181 Charles

Of the public anti-jihad figures, that leaves Ayaan Hirsi Ali as the only one who hasn't given in to paranoia and populist fascism.

you're right to draw a line in the sand. the others that have crossed that line have betrayed their cause.

re: #161 wahabicorridor

If only McCain's first order of business could be to deport her. :)

[yeah, I know, it's mean]

re: #188 alien_mind
We (wife and I) just got back 2 hrs. ago from voting for Johnny Mac and Sarah; I'm well aware of the alternative. my point was that McCain is not some conservative savior, only the lesser of two evils. He WILL grow the govt., he WILL reach across the aisle, and he WILL spend money on social programs, as well as keep America safe. He's a classical liberal, old-style dem.

probably looking for the nearest pollong station
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

re: #185 jcm

In a crisis I trust McCain to do the right thing for America.

In a crisis I trust Obama to vote present.

Did you catch that John Boehner [sp?] quote?

"In Congress, we have a red button, a green button and a yellow button, alright. Green means 'yes,' red means 'no,' and yellow means you're a chicken s***."

re: #193 monkey den

Did you catch that John Boehner [sp?] quote?

"In Congress, we have a red button, a green button and a yellow button, alright. Green means 'yes,' red means 'no,' and yellow means you're a chicken s***."

Loved it......

re: #25 Charles

I don't understand why Spencer is going off on Charles. I find it ridiculous that Spencer can claim he opposes race based attacks on Islam but cannot reconcile with Charles.

Might I suggest those who feel that Spencer has been useful in the past lay off the hard words and for now. Everyone needs to take a breath and clear their heads and see the road ahead. Spencer does not need the baggage of Vlaams Blok and de Winter; the war against radical Islam in Europe will never be won by teaming with proto/neo/crypto/fascists. Sadly Vlaams, Fjordman and their fellow travelers are wrong. And Spencer, for whose previous work I esteem, needs to really rethink this. Spencer, if you read this and care, please read my letter to Fjordman.

It is madness for Jihadwatch and LGF not to be able to work together. It is equally foolish to have the faultline break over this issue. It is Vlaams Blok that belongs on the outside, Mr. Spencer, not you. Please reconsider.

re: #191 dave in NC

We (wife and I) just got back 2 hrs. ago from voting for Johnny Mac and Sarah; I'm well aware of the alternative. my point was that McCain is not some conservative savior, only the lesser of two evils. He WILL grow the govt., he WILL reach across the aisle, and he WILL spend money on social programs, as well as keep America safe. He's a classical liberal, old-style dem.

good for you. look, we're all voting for McCain for the same reasons, and nobody sees him as a conservative savior, but I would not put him in the category of the lesser of two evils by any means. he is not evil. Its possible he may not govern in the way you have predicted in terms of the social programs. I take him at his word about government reform, when he says he is going to review all agencies and and see what is working and what isn't.

re: #46 Wyatt Earp

I prefer Kate Beckinsdale

re: #43 wahabicorridor

This was posted in the spinoffs but I wanted to be sure you all see it.

Obama to Farmers: Stop Growing Food

I had a dream night before last that woke me up in a cold sweat - that we had massive crop failures - because the seed was tainted by Obama thugs - because Obama wanted complete gov't takeover of the agiculture industry.

I've been watching the eco nazis trying to put farmers out of business via back door legislation (CERCLA/manure mgmt) - and this food miles crap.

This is serious stuff - and I am truly frightened.

_______________________________
Zimbabwe stopped growing food because of Mugabe. From bread-basket to basket case.

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Who'd want to buy those now? Bury them instead.

Too late- I got $5 bucks for them. Though it's way less than I bought them for, I think I got the better deal- they're worth far less than $5 now.

re: #196 alien_mind
Well, we'll see very shortly. i'm predicting a McCain win.

re: #181 Charles

If what Spencer wrote is true, Geert Wilders is now hooking up with the Vlaams Belang too, which is a severe disappointment. I believed he was trying to stay away from those associations.

Of the public anti-jihad figures, that leaves Ayaan Hirsi Ali as the only one who hasn't given in to paranoia and populist fascism.

After saying racists weren't welcome in his conference, that would be shocking.

re: #195 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

I don't understand why Spencer is going off on Charles. I find it ridiculous that Spencer can claim he opposes race based attacks on Islam but cannot reconcile with Charles.

Might I suggest those who feel that Spencer has been useful in the past lay off the hard words and for now. Everyone needs to take a breath and clear their heads and see the road ahead. Spencer does not need the baggage of Vlaams Blok and de Winter; the war against radical Islam in Europe will never be won by teaming with proto/neo/crypto/fascists. Sadly Vlaams, Fjordman and their fellow travelers are wrong. And Spencer, for whose previous work I esteem, needs to really rethink this. Spencer, if you read this and care, please read my letter to Fjordman.

It is madness for Jihadwatch and LGF not to be able to work together. It is equally foolish to have the faultline break over this issue. It is Vlaams Blok that belongs on the outside, Mr. Spencer, not you. Please reconsider.

After Spencer's post, I hope you aren't holding your breath. He's made his choice.

re: #181 Charles

There has been a lot of talk here in Europe lately about the impending global recession paying off for the various racist nationalist elements across the continent.

Interesting timing on the part of those who are now choosing to stand with these sort of people, methinks.

Hate mail is pouring in now, after Spencer's post and the expected vicious attack at GoV.

re: #193 monkey den

dinged up

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re: #204 Charles

Hate mail is pouring in now, after Spencer's post and the expected vicious attack at GoV.

I wonder if any of these people remember dymphna's post about the two Texas girls after their honor killing?

If (big if) Barry O wins this election, the campaign slogan for 2012 should be, "We told you so!"

re: #195 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Addendum: I think you already know this, but I want to be perfectly clear.

There are no circumstances in which I'm going to reconsider my position against making alliances with far-right, neo-fascist European parties. It's not going to happen, period.

For Spencer to decide he can work with GoV and Brussels Journal, after the incredibly vile attacks they have posted on me, and their open support for genocide, mass deportations, and racism, is nothing less than a stab in the back.

Robert knows very well the extent that I've supported him over the years, defending him against attacks and smears, and even doing an enormous amount of work on his web site without billing him. I consider this a personal and professional betrayal.

re: #181 Charles

Of the public anti-jihad figures, that leaves Ayaan Hirsi Ali as the only one who hasn't given in to paranoia and populist fascism.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is about as non-fascistic as most socialist pols. She isn't in bed with the neanderthals, but she isn't any more saintly in not siding with fascists. I haven't read anything of her, or from her that leads me to believe that she is a promoter of liberty, in any true fashion. She says she is for freedom of speech, but like most Europols, that freedom only extends to what she wants to be heard and her record backs that up.

re: #203 Jimmah

There has been a lot of talk here in Europe lately about the impending global recession paying off for the various racist nationalist elements across the continent.

Interesting timing on the part of those who are now choosing to stand with these sort of people, methinks.

verrry interesting. Where is 'here', may I ask?

re: #207 Sharmuta

I wonder if any of these people remember dymphna's post about the two Texas girls after their honor killing?

Ok, I'll bite - what did she say?

re: #212 wahabicorridor

I hope it's not minded that I link to it, but you can read it for yourself.

[Link: gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...]

This is now the type of thing that robert wants to ally himself.

re: #203 Jimmah

There has been a lot of talk here in Europe lately about the impending global recession paying off for the various racist nationalist elements across the continent.

Interesting timing on the part of those who are now choosing to stand with these sort of people, methinks.

I think it is a matter of incumbent backlash, like the Obama phenomena in America. The ethnic nationalist parties are almost all coalition parties that don't stand on the single issue of ethnicity.

I believe that the support for these parties in most of Europe is in spite of their racist views and not because of them. Even in relatively 'conservative' European nations, the mainstream political spectrum is a disctinction between which party is centrist and which is far left.

With the growing support of these quasi-fascist coalition parties cutting into mainstream voters it is likely that the 'conservative' barely right of center parties will take up the standard of the non-racially charges issues that VB and their ilk allegedly support and in the process steal back their voting blocs and leave the fringe parties without the semblance of credibility.

We are already starting to see this in some places in Europe with the hardline multiculti socialists falling out of favor and 'conservatives' on the rise. It isn't simply the ethnic nationalists gaining the favor of the voters, but the far-left socialists bleeding them to every other party.

re: #209 Charles

Another example of: No good deed goes unpunished

re: #213 Sharmuta

Thanks, Sharmuta - loading page now

So, BHO accepted donations from his illegal immigrant Aunti Zeituni? Isn't a pesky campaign finance law broken when you take a donation from a foreign national, either in-country or out?

re: #213 Sharmuta

I hope it's not minded that I link to it, but you can read it for yourself.

[Link: gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...]

This is now the type of thing that robert wants to ally himself.

Oh good lord. However, I've suspected the woman may need meds after her daughter's death.

re: #213 Sharmuta

That was exceptionally peculiar reasoning. We have no room to judge?

re: #218 wahabicorridor

Nice friends robert's chosen.

re: #219 jaunte

That was exceptionally peculiar reasoning. We have no room to judge?

Some counter-jihadi she is, huh?

re: #221 Sharmuta

Not an 'honor killing' because of this song from the '50's...
WTF?

re: #222 jaunte

Not an 'honor killing' because of this song from the '50's...
WTF?

And robert finds this is the sort of blog he's like to have linked on his site.

re: #211 wahabicorridor

verrry interesting. Where is 'here', may I ask?

UK.

re: #224 Jimmah

UK.

Ah, yes. I was reading in one of the Brit papers today that support for the troops has gone up and recruitment is up 12% - however, some of the natives told me that it is the 'silent majority' coming out - they're sick and tired of how the troops have been treated, the multi-culti crap - and the taxes. Not to mention the council nazis using anti-terror laws to spy on people about when they put their trash out.

re: #225 wahabicorridor

I saw that too - Daily Mail I think? That is some good news.

re: #221 Sharmuta

Some counter-jihadi she is, huh?

It was a very strange piece indeed. It was as though she were trying to establish some sort of 'moderate credentials'...by mitigating condemnation of a murderous zealot. Way to go, GOV...

I'm still not confident. After all, they still haven't actually RELEASED it:

Hawaii purportedly verifies Obama birth certificate

re: #228 Fred72

I'm still not confident. After all, they still haven't actually RELEASED it:

Hawaii purportedly verifies Obama birth certificate

WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL WITH THIS?
His mother was an American citizen. Obama could have been born on the friggin' moon - he'd still be a citizen.

re: #228 Fred72

I'm still not confident. After all, they still haven't actually RELEASED it:

Hawaii purportedly verifies Obama birth certificate

They didn't "purportedly" verify it -- they verified it, period.

I'm not deleting your post because it shows just how wrong and dumb this idiotic rumor was.

re: #227 Jimmah

I'll be frank- she was being what you'd expect from a racist. She didn't care about those girls because they weren't white.

re: #34 Davida

You know, I have given this some thought. And I respectfully disagree with you.

I have a feeling that when they are denied their usual whipping boy, they would turn on Obama. Mostly because there will be SO MUCH nasty stuff that would come out after the election. It will be so blatant, and so 'out there' that even they will not be able to let it slide. Oh, and one more thing. If he gets elected, they are NOT going to like his style of not answering questions, and being left out of the loop.

I don't think Obama will get a free ride for more than a month from the MSM.

But let us hope we don't have to find out.

unless they are afraid of the thuggery. . . and getting kicked off the plane. . .

re: #214 Scion9

I agree. All the more reason to stick close to the real issues, and keep as far away as possible from the opportunistic fringe loons and their sick agendas.

I noticed that Spencer is repeating on his site the strawman that people here are saying that he himself is a neo-nazi. He can win that argument quite easily - problem is no-one here has made that argument.

The actual argument is that he is giving a platform to people who, while certainly not neo-nazis in some technically demonstrable sense, are nevertheless clearly obsessed with race and in many cases are pushing ethnic nationalist agendas and using fear of Islamism and terrorism to further them. I think that at the back of his mind somewhere even he can understand why that is making people want to have nothing to do with him.

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re: #209 Charles

Charles you know enough about me and why I am here to know that I will never compromise on the neofascists nor ask you or anyone else to do so. In fact, if I go weak and squirrely, ban me, I don't deserve to be here after that.

re: #204 Charles

I am so sorry

re: #209 Charles

Charles, at a time when so many are blind to whats going on in the world and the evil's that are coming, why are two of the good guys turning on each other! This is bad, real bad. What a shame.

I'm as loyal of a CJ supporter as their is - I may not be all that active of a poster but I read LGF religiously and do my best to attract people to this site. On the whole I totally agree with Charles position on Vlaams Belang, Gates of Vienna etc. Where I depart completely is on the Robert Spencer stuff. I remember the "When friends attack" post and feeling - "yah, it's a bummer but Charles is right for standing up here". But Spencer is a class act and a reasonable man. Seeing the above post characterizing Spencer's post as a "Vicious attack" really sucks. If my beloved leader really believes that atack is Vicious, he's being skin-thinned ad absurdum.

In the 12 years I've been an avid interwebs users, this is the first time I recall that two people I really like got in a battle like this. I read both blogs every day although on the whole I spend more time here. Two brilliant minds with great insights and such a small point of disagreement shouldn't be in a brawl like this. So after 3 years of daily reading, this is the first time I disagree with CJ - it's bound to happen at some point. I'll still read both sites just like I did before this feud. I still repsect both men. But man does it bum me out to see this happening and for the life of me, i can't see how anyone in either camp is better off for this.

re: #237 top10dig

Charles, at a time when so many are blind to whats going on in the world and the evil's that are coming, why are two of the good guys turning on each other! This is bad, real bad. What a shame.

I did not "turn on" Robert. I'm being true to myself. I will not have anything to do with people who support racism and genocide.